Knowledge Fight - #428: May 1, 2020
Aired: 2020-05-04
Duration: 01:27:13


=== Cooking Up Surprises (04:34) ===

[00:00:20]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:21]  I have great respect for knowledge fight.
[00:00:23]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:25]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:29]  Dan and George.
[00:00:31]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:34]  Need money.
[00:00:39]  Andy in Kansas.
[00:00:40]  Andy in Kansas.
[00:00:42]  Stop it.
[00:00:42]  Andy in Kansas.
[00:00:45]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:47]  Andy in Kansas.
[00:00:47]  You're on the air.
[00:00:48]  Thanks for holding me.
[00:00:50]  I'm a huge fan.
[00:00:51]  I love your room.
[00:00:53]  Knowledge Fight.
[00:00:55]  KnowledgeFight.com.
[00:00:58]  I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody!
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:00]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:01]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:05]  Indeed we are, Dan.
[00:01:06]  Jordan.
[00:01:07]  Dan!
[00:01:07]  Quick question.
[00:01:08]  Uh-huh.
[00:01:09]  What's your bright spot this day?
[00:01:10]  I don't like that a lot of these bright spots end up being food-related.
[00:01:14]  Yeah.
[00:01:15]  But...
[00:01:16]  What else do we have to cling to these days?
[00:01:19]  Here's how bad I am at cooking and various assorted...
[00:01:22]  Did you make that lasagna?
[00:01:23]  I didn't yet, but I do have the ingredients.
[00:01:25]  I did get them.
[00:01:26]  I've just been meaning to do that.
[00:01:27]  But I realized something else that I can cook.
[00:01:30]  And this is very sad.
[00:01:32]  I just realized that you can cook chicken in the oven.
[00:01:36]  Oh yeah, totally.
[00:01:37]  You can bake it all the time.
[00:01:38]  I did not know that.
[00:01:38]  Oh yeah, you can bake it.
[00:01:40]  Have you considered roasting it?
[00:01:41]  My friend, you can do it all.
[00:01:43]  Yeah, there's a lot of options.
[00:01:44]  I, for the longest time, have thought like, well, if you're going to cook chicken, you've got to cook it in a pan.
[00:01:49]  And I'm not good at that.
[00:01:51]  I fuck it up every time.
[00:01:52]  And so I'm very resistant to cooking chicken breasts.
[00:01:55]  Right.
[00:01:55]  But I like them.
[00:01:57]  I like chicken quite a bit.
[00:01:58]  Everybody loves it.
[00:01:59]  Sure.
[00:02:00]  I just realized the other day that I could take a chicken breast, you know, marinate it up.
[00:02:05]  Toss it in the oven.
[00:02:07]  Come out great.
[00:02:09]  To the point where last night I was having trouble sleeping because I was planning to go get a chicken breast and celebrate this new realization.
[00:02:19]  I'm going to pick the shit out of that fucking chicken breast.
[00:02:20]  I am 36 years old.
[00:02:22]  I don't know how to live.
[00:02:25]  But that's a bright spot because you realize that there are these things and you know what?
[00:02:28]  It's also a realization that there's so much more that I probably feel is outside of my abilities that isn't.
[00:02:35]  No, it feels like that's about food, but that's not about food.
[00:02:39]  Dan, anybody can eat a chicken.
[00:02:40]  You can just go get a chicken.
[00:02:41]  That is about discovery.
[00:02:43]  That is about finding out a new facet of your life.
[00:02:46]  So after this episode, I am going to go to the Jewel Osco.
[00:02:49]  I think that sounds like a grand idea.
[00:02:51]  And live my dreams.
[00:02:53]  Get a whole chicken.
[00:02:54]  Get a peahen.
[00:02:55]  I can't do that.
[00:02:56]  That's beyond my abilities.
[00:02:58]  What about you?
[00:02:59]  I discovered or I rediscovered the Red Mask rendition of Dave Attell's Skanks for the Memories, which I have told people about for a long time.
[00:03:13]  It's Skanks for the Memories.
[00:03:15]  Right.
[00:03:15]  Dave Attell's classic comedy album.
[00:03:17]  classic album and some DJ, uh, 15, 20 years ago, uh, underlaid all these tracks to it.
[00:03:25]  So there's just a bunch of funk tracks underneath Dave Attell's jokes and I've never heard of or heard this thing.
[00:03:37]  No one has, but I rediscovered it.
[00:03:39]  I remember getting it because it was back in the Napster days where you would find a torrent randomly and be like, yeah, I'll fucking steal this shit.
[00:03:45]  I don't know.
[00:03:46]  Yeah, and a lot of times things are mislabeled.
[00:03:48]  Do you think something's wrong by a band is by another band?
[00:03:51]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
[00:03:51]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:03:52]  And yeah, I'm glad to report that it is real.
[00:03:55]  Okay.
[00:03:56]  I googled it for a long time.
[00:03:57]  I can only find references to it on a Last.fm page written in different languages.
[00:04:03]  Oh, okay.
[00:04:03]  That's the only place I could find it.
[00:04:05]  Well, that's proof that it's real.
[00:04:07]  It is real.
[00:04:07]  But you didn't find it again?
[00:04:09]  I have it.
[00:04:10]  Oh, okay.
[00:04:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:11]  Awesome.
[00:04:12]  I listen to it.
[00:04:12]  It's fantastic.
[00:04:12]  I don't need to hear it.
[00:04:13]  I kind of thought it was in a dream.
[00:04:16]  Well, I'm glad that you weren't making that up this whole time.
[00:04:18]  I know, right?
[00:04:18]  But I'll be honest, I don't want to listen to it.
[00:04:20]  It's not.
[00:04:21]  No offense.
[00:04:22]  Well, one, the album, a lot of it.
[00:04:24]  Does not age well.
[00:04:26]  Oh, I'm positive of that.
[00:04:27]  That's another reason I don't want to listen to it.
[00:04:29]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:30]  It does not age well.
[00:04:30]  It's like something that I thought was so perfectly funny when I was 12. Yeah.
[00:04:36]  Probably now looking back, you'd be like, oh, Jesus.
[00:04:39]  Oh, no, totally.

=== Destination Is The Journey (15:45) ===

[00:04:40]  Horrifyingly offensive things.
[00:04:42]  At the same time, there's just some timing things that you, like the way he just says, now point me!
[00:04:49]  East is such a fun delivery.
[00:04:52]  You're a genius.
[00:04:53]  Very sharp joke teller.
[00:04:55]  Brilliant.
[00:04:55]  Even if some of the material is pretty problematic.
[00:04:58]  He's better now.
[00:05:00]  So, Jordan, today we're going to be going over May 1st, 2020.
[00:05:04]  Love it.
[00:05:05]  That was Friday of last week, and there's a lot of sundry issues to go over on this episode.
[00:05:13]  Certainly.
[00:05:14]  I look like a fucking idiot, because on Friday's episode of our show, I brought up how thrilled I was that no one was covering Alex's rant about eating his neighbors.
[00:05:23]  We were doing great.
[00:05:24]  It felt so good.
[00:05:25]  We were doing so good.
[00:05:26]  Like Icarus, I flew too close to the sun.
[00:05:28]  It was because you said that that it happened.
[00:05:30]  It might have been.
[00:05:31]  It is your fault entirely.
[00:05:33]  At least spiritually on some level, I'm to blame for this.
[00:05:35]  And so I have egg on my face because by the time that episode got released, everyone had heard of Alex's outburst and we're giving him all the publicity that he wanted.
[00:05:48]  Yeah.
[00:05:48]  Luckily, nobody mentioned us in the in the whole night.
[00:05:51]  I'm not I'm not frustrated about that.
[00:05:53]  Oh, no, I'm not.
[00:05:54]  Yes, you are.
[00:05:55]  No, no.
[00:05:56]  I mean, in a sense of like.
[00:05:58]  I'm glad I don't have to deal with all of that shit.
[00:06:02]  I don't think that we broke the story or anything like that.
[00:06:06]  I know that I got some tweets from people who were like, you guys need to credit Knowledge Fight for breaking the story.
[00:06:13]  And I don't believe that we deserve any kind of particular credit for like, Alex said this shit and we talked about it.
[00:06:21]  It could have been anybody.
[00:06:22]  It's not like...
[00:06:23]  I don't feel any kind of territorialness to the story or anything.
[00:06:28]  Of course not.
[00:06:28]  But I do feel like there's a lot of problems with the way people are engaging with it.
[00:06:33]  And we'll get to that over the course of this episode because it does sort of come up.
[00:06:37]  Yeah, of course it does.
[00:06:38]  But before we embark on this here May 1st adventure...
[00:06:42]  I should take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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[00:07:26]  You are now a technocrat.
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[00:07:28]  Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
[00:07:30]  Have yourself a brew.
[00:07:31]  How's your 401k doing, bro?
[00:07:33]  We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
[00:07:35]  Let's just get down to business.
[00:07:37]  We ain't making that money off that heroin.
[00:07:39]  Why are you pimps so good?
[00:07:41]  My neck is freakishly large.
[00:07:42]  I declare...
[00:07:44]  Infowar on you.
[00:07:45]  Thank you so much, Justin.
[00:07:46]  And thank you so much, Drew.
[00:07:48]  Thank you very much.
[00:07:49]  It's not Drew Hill.
[00:07:50]  It's not Drew Hill.
[00:07:50]  Not the group Drew Hill.
[00:07:51]  Are you sure?
[00:07:52]  Which brought us Cisco.
[00:07:53]  Yes.
[00:07:53]  Who then brought us the thong song.
[00:07:56]  And their legacy was complete.
[00:07:57]  Uh-huh.
[00:07:58]  I believe that's how I want to go out.
[00:08:00]  Sure.
[00:08:00]  Cisco.
[00:08:02]  So much promise.
[00:08:03]  Yes.
[00:08:04]  So, if you like the show and you enjoy what we do, you can do that.
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[00:08:11]  We'd appreciate that.
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[00:08:19]  We would appreciate that as well.
[00:08:21]  Yes, we would appreciate either very much.
[00:08:23]  So, Jordan, like I said today, May 1st.
[00:08:26]  Friday.
[00:08:27]  Mayday.
[00:08:28]  Mayday.
[00:08:28]  A lot of labor protests that were absolutely covered all the time.
[00:08:33]  Yeah, there was so much coverage of the protests.
[00:08:37]  Alex is in a particular sort of mood, which I find boring in many ways, but he does say some really stupid shit.
[00:08:43]  And here's another context drop from today's show.
[00:08:45]  Because I ran into some occultists, but that was when I was younger.
[00:08:47]  I never really joined it.
[00:08:50]  I was just around some of it because they were trying to recruit me for the sex.
[00:08:53]  So, apparently Alex was recruited into Satanism for the sex.
[00:08:57]  Of course!
[00:08:58]  Yeah, why not?
[00:08:59]  He's sold a couple of those.
[00:09:01]  I went to Satanist parties twice, I believe.
[00:09:04]  He's gone twice.
[00:09:05]  Yes.
[00:09:05]  Fool me twice.
[00:09:06]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:09:07]  I like the idea that the way Alex is presenting it is like they recruited me for sex, which is to say they wanted me.
[00:09:13]  Yeah, of course.
[00:09:14]  What they wanted from me is my good fucking.
[00:09:17]  Of course!
[00:09:18]  Satanists roving around just being like, oh, I bet that guy fucks good.
[00:09:21]  Right.
[00:09:21]  Let's pick him up in our...
[00:09:23]  I feel like they have a lot of options.
[00:09:26]  Satanists who throw massive orgies.
[00:09:28]  They don't need Alex.
[00:09:29]  No, you can't throw an orgy without an Alex.
[00:09:31]  That's a rule.
[00:09:32]  I believe that in the past he said that they were recruiting him because they had psychic powers and knew that he was going to be important later.
[00:09:40]  Oh, that's true!
[00:09:41]  There wasn't for sex.
[00:09:41]  There was that one.
[00:09:42]  It was because he was crucial to the Earth's future or some shit.
[00:09:46]  I believe I remember him saying that he thought it was going to be a sex thing, and then they sprung on him that it was a Satan thing.
[00:09:53]  Yeah.
[00:09:54]  Anyway, it's convoluted.
[00:09:55]  So we start here at the beginning of the episode, and Alex, he starts off sort of contradicting his mood from a few days prior.
[00:10:02]  The globalists encourage people not to have children, not to save the Earth, but because when you have children, you tend to get closer to God, and you think about your ancestors and the future.
[00:10:11]  It unlocks a lot of things in you.
[00:10:15]  I'm not criticizing those that don't have children, but I'm just simply saying I now look at my children and I feel absolutely crushed with commitment, just absolutely flattened.
[00:10:29]  It's not a feeling of depression.
[00:10:30]  It's not a feeling of anger.
[00:10:32]  It's not a feeling of even sorrow.
[00:10:34]  It is a feeling of grief that we've let evil get this out of control and that it's absolutely even worse than we thought.
[00:10:44]  And that we screwed around, but that now we've got to roll our sleeves up, and just every cell in my body is commanding me, commanding me, to get up off my ass and to awaken the people.
[00:11:00]  Just a few days ago, he was talking about how you can't wake people up.
[00:11:03]  It's fucking over.
[00:11:04]  We're done.
[00:11:05]  I think he's talking to himself.
[00:11:07]  I don't think he's talking to me.
[00:11:08]  It's constantly fluctuating.
[00:11:12]  The time for waking people up is over.
[00:11:14]  Every cell in my body is screaming at me to wake up the people.
[00:11:19]  Pick a lane!
[00:11:21]  Yeah, it's very frustrating.
[00:11:22]  So in this next clip, Alex reveals that, hey, you know how maybe the Illuminati was the friends we made along the way?
[00:11:31]  That kind of trite bullshit?
[00:11:32]  Sure, sure, sure.
[00:11:33]  He wants to let you know.
[00:11:35]  The destination is the journey.
[00:11:36]  Exactly.
[00:11:36]  The journey to the New World Order is the destination.
[00:11:41]  For them?
[00:11:42]  And on the path to our species being phased out by these psychotics, by the sign of a dictatorship in the post-human world is really the destination.
[00:11:54]  The journey is the destination.
[00:11:56]  There it is.
[00:11:56]  world not more beautiful, not more open, not more free, not more classically liberal, but one of trampled and being trampled upon.
[00:12:05]  One of having a bootstomp on the human face forever.
[00:12:10]  A society that gets uglier and stupider.
[00:12:14]  And I mean, in Brave New World, they were forecasting this and Really?
[00:12:25]  60s.
[00:12:27]  It's a giant satanic ritual.
[00:12:30]  And you're now living in the takeover.
[00:12:33]  So I have a strong suspicion that Alex thinks that the journey to the New World Order is the destination, because for him, it is.
[00:12:40]  The end goal for Alex's show and entire business model is to never get anywhere, because getting somewhere means he has to change something.
[00:12:47]  The New World Order can never be defeated, because if they were, then why listen to Alex anymore?
[00:12:52]  And they can't ever really win, because then how do you justify the fact that you're still selling dumb pills while this evil dictatorship is in place?
[00:12:59]  He needs that sweet spot of their impending arrival to be constant at all times, because otherwise he's kind of useless.
[00:13:07]  Yeah, he's like Cheers.
[00:13:09]  You know, you can do 30 seasons, but you're always going to be in that fucking bar.
[00:13:13]  Also, that boot stomping on a human face thing, that's from 1984, now Brave New World.
[00:13:18]  And while we're on the subject, Brave New World was published in 1932.
[00:13:22]  The life expectancy in the United States in 1932 was not 30 years.
[00:13:26]  It was 61 for men and 63.5 for women.
[00:13:30]  You have to go back to the 1800s to get to a period when life expectancy was in the 30s, but guess what?
[00:13:35]  That doesn't mean that the average person lived to 30. That's a huge misconception about life expectancy statistics.
[00:13:41]  That's the kind of thing you'd hear confidently being declared by a guy who just talks out of his ass all the time.
[00:13:47]  Someone like Alex.
[00:13:49]  What he's doing is he's mixing up life expectancy with lifespan.
[00:13:53]  There are aspects of medical advancement and sanitation that have helped increase our lifespans over the last hundreds of years, but generally speaking, when you see these big swings in life expectancy, that's not a representation that most people died at 30 in the 1800s and at 60 or so by 1932.
[00:14:10]  This number is heavily weighted by child mortality.
[00:14:13]  When you see these jumps, that's almost always indicative of a greater number of children not dying in infancy, not people who survive childhood living decades longer.
[00:14:23]  As reproductive health gets better, life expectancy goes up, for this reason, and because people who are pregnant are at a greater risk of death than someone who is not.
[00:14:31]  As the number of people who die in childbirth goes down, who are generally younger, and the number of children who survive infancy goes down, countries see a rise in their life expectancy.
[00:14:41]  Alex doesn't understand what this statistic captures, so he's up on this show pretending that most people died at 30 when Brave New World was written.
[00:14:48]  It's all ludicrous.
[00:14:49]  He just doesn't even understand the topics, the very basic topics that he's talking about.
[00:14:53]  Yeah, your life expectancy is 30 because back then people had 15 kids in the hopes of keeping five.
[00:14:59]  You know, it was that kind of like, don't name it until it's 45. Like that kind of level of everybody dies so young.
[00:15:06]  Yeah, and I was reading some articles about like, you know, like even ancient history.
[00:15:10]  You know, like people lived not a long time.
[00:15:13]  Yeah, not...
[00:15:14]  Maybe on a small scale shorter than we do in the modern world.
[00:15:20]  Well, I mean, Noah was a thousand or two.
[00:15:23]  Well, there's Methuselah.
[00:15:24]  Methuselah.
[00:15:25]  Who was the guy who never died?
[00:15:26]  Elisha?
[00:15:27]  Was he the one who never died?
[00:15:28]  See, nobody ever died.
[00:15:29]  Well, I'm talking about in the Roman world and stuff.
[00:15:33]  There's a conception that we have that everyone died at 20 or whatever.
[00:15:37]  It's a twisting of what these statistics cover.
[00:15:42]  Alex just doesn't know how to engage with statistics.
[00:15:44]  He doesn't know how to engage with the idea that these models existed for what the coronavirus was looking like.
[00:15:51]  And so he says stuff like this.
[00:15:53]  Every model we have been given in the last four months by the United Nations, by the Royal College, by the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation has been more than 100% wrong.
[00:16:11]  200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 1,000 times off.
[00:16:17]  They've been 50, 60, 70 times higher in the death rate.
[00:16:23]  And now we know it is confirmed that they are counting in Europe and the United States and in China every death.
[00:16:38]  that comes in to those hospitals is counted as a COVID death.
[00:16:44]  Alex was perfectly happy to misuse those same models that he's now decrying back when his narrative was that it's over for humanity.
[00:16:52]  There will only be lone survivors.
[00:16:54]  Back then, it made perfect sense to scare the audience about how there was going to be 3 million dead from the virus, and he just pretended that those models were reflecting predictions as opposed to what would happen if no efforts like social distancing and business closures were made.
[00:17:08]  Alex even pushed a model created by the health ranger, Mike Adams, and had to be corrected by Mike on air that his model was specifically about the unlikely scenario where no mitigation measures were taken.
[00:17:19]  Alex is and has been willfully misrepresenting what these statistical analyses are, even though he was all about them just a short time ago.
[00:17:27]  He's a real piece of shit.
[00:17:28]  It has the feel of somebody who's like, you told me two million people were going to die.
[00:17:33]  The only way you're going to be right is if two million people die.
[00:17:38]  Anything else, if less than that die, that's because you're an idiot.
[00:17:42]  Not because you were like...
[00:17:43]  Let's do something to stop it.
[00:17:45]  Not you're an idiot.
[00:17:46]  You're a liar.
[00:17:46]  You're a liar.
[00:17:47]  Yeah, like if the weatherman could influence the weather, you know?
[00:17:50]  Like, oh, the weatherman?
[00:17:51]  It's not fucking sunny out, you son of a bitch.
[00:17:54]  Well, Alex does believe that.
[00:17:55]  That's actually true.
[00:17:56]  Also, I understand him saying that in Europe and the United States they're calling all deaths COVID deaths.
[00:18:01]  It's stupid and it's not confirmed.
[00:18:03]  He's just making it up.
[00:18:04]  But I understand him saying that.
[00:18:06]  Extending that to China seems super weird, considering that China's release numbers have shown a substantial drop-off in deaths being reported as COVID deaths for at least the last month and a half.
[00:18:15]  You would think that if the goal was to hyperinflate these numbers, you wouldn't see China, who are supposed to be the big bad guys in all this, reporting very few COVID deaths right now.
[00:18:25]  What Alex is saying even internally for his own conspiracy just doesn't make sense.
[00:18:29]  See, now they're under-reporting their numbers to make it look like they're impervious to it.
[00:18:33]  So when we thought it was a race-specific bioweapon, they're going to be like, see, it's not a race-specific bioweapon.
[00:18:38]  I gotta go.
[00:18:38]  No, you gotta hear me out.
[00:18:40]  No, no, no.
[00:18:41]  Don't leave.
[00:18:42]  Don't leave.
[00:18:43]  My wife has left me.
[00:18:44]  I gotta leave.
[00:18:47]  I don't know.
[00:18:48]  I don't care too much for whatever this nonsense is that he's trying to pitch.
[00:18:53]  But, you know, as I was listening to this show, I had a realization that really, really hit home.
[00:19:00]  And that is that people need to take this a little bit more for what it is.
[00:19:05]  What this show is.
[00:19:08]  It's kind of, at least in the most present day...
[00:19:13]  It's kind of just becoming an intense religiously based incitement show.
[00:19:18]  Yeah.
[00:19:18]  That's kind of the entire tone of what this is.
[00:19:21]  So even when he's talking about stuff that seems like, oh, this is just having a weird political belief.
[00:19:27]  No.
[00:19:27]  He thinks it's demons doing it.
[00:19:29]  Yeah.
[00:19:29]  People need to remember that.
[00:19:30]  Yeah.
[00:19:31]  He's not selling.
[00:19:32]  Dead now.
[00:19:33]  He worked in stuff with the army secretly.
[00:19:36]  And he said there just came a point.
[00:19:45]  There came a point when things are so evil and the things they've incrementally got you to do are so bad that you just can't do it anymore and you turn completely against it.
[00:19:58]  And I asked him, I said, what was it?
[00:20:00]  And he said, children.
[00:20:06]  And I said, what was it?
[00:20:07]  And he goes, you know what it was.

=== God Will Not Be Fooled (05:18) ===

[00:20:10]  You know what it is.
[00:20:15]  These people like to hurt children.
[00:20:18]  And everybody better grow up and understand that.
[00:20:21]  And I want to tell all the corrupt bureaucrats and all the corrupt agents something.
[00:20:24]  There is a God.
[00:20:25]  And those of you that aid and abet these people are going to face God one day.
[00:20:29]  Absolutely, you're going to face God.
[00:20:31]  God is so real.
[00:20:32]  And you are going to pay.
[00:20:34]  You understand that?
[00:20:36]  So you keep pretending you're God down here on this planet.
[00:20:38]  And you keep bullying and hurting children.
[00:20:41]  But you're God, Satan.
[00:20:43]  But I assure you, your New World Order is going down.
[00:20:46]  I mean, that's the character of this show.
[00:20:49]  That's what this show is, at its core, is just a guy rambling about his extremist version of religion and accusing all enemies of being child-abusing Satan worshippers.
[00:21:02]  It should be treated like that.
[00:21:06]  I think that should be in every article about Alex.
[00:21:12]  Alex Jones, who believes that everyone he doesn't like is under the control of an extra-dimensional alien demon who got stranded here when God kicked him out of heaven or whatever.
[00:21:26]  That needs to be a part of the thing.
[00:21:28]  Because treating him like a political conspiracy theorist at this point is...
[00:21:32]  Yeah, it's bananas.
[00:21:34]  He's not selling food buckets because the collapse is coming.
[00:21:38]  He's selling food buckets because an interdimensional space being is causing the collapse that's coming.
[00:21:42]  And the interdimensional space being is going to cause so much more trouble.
[00:21:46]  So much more trouble!
[00:21:47]  You can wait four to six weeks because the interdimensional space being is also probably a decade behind his plans.
[00:21:53]  And the interdimensional space being wants you to stay inside because that collapses the economy and blah blah blah.
[00:21:59]  Everything comes back to China.
[00:22:01]  Is working for the interdimensional space beings.
[00:22:05]  All of it is this.
[00:22:06]  And they have rules where you have to agree to it, otherwise they won't do it.
[00:22:10]  Well, there's actually a development on that coming up at the end of the show.
[00:22:14]  Of course, of course.
[00:22:15]  I was wondering if there would be.
[00:22:16]  There may be a twist in the rules.
[00:22:19]  Of course.
[00:22:20]  Why not?
[00:22:21]  But yeah, so I mean, everything that the man and the globalists are telling you to do, like social distancing.
[00:22:29]  The business closures, all this.
[00:22:31]  They're really doing that at the behest of this international interdimensional space demon.
[00:22:35]  Yep.
[00:22:36]  And so that includes wearing masks, which explains why Alex keeps telling stories about getting in fights with people in public.
[00:22:43]  So remember when you're walking into, say, a Bucky's gas station, like having a Darren McBrain the other day, he told me about it.
[00:22:50]  And this woman comes up with her mask on, he's not wearing one, as the governor said, it's not the law, he can't make people do it.
[00:22:55]  And she goes...
[00:22:57]  Like she's all scared and jumps back and goes off running off.
[00:23:00]  Her little power, her little drama.
[00:23:02]  If she can join with the media and the Stockholm Syndrome and make you do it, she's a hero and she's good.
[00:23:08]  And I've had that happen to me on the hiking bike trail.
[00:23:10]  We're grown men.
[00:23:13]  Well, I get up against the trees and go, oh, oh.
[00:23:15]  And I just start going, what's your problem, man?
[00:23:19]  You don't care about the hundred million people that are already starving to that, do you?
[00:23:22]  Fuck off.
[00:23:22]  It's conspiracy.
[00:23:24]  Oh, really?
[00:23:25]  Sandy Hook.
[00:23:26]  I go, okay, I guess all the kids, you know, I'll tell you the kids are real that are dying.
[00:23:30]  Who is in these mass shootings and in Africa.
[00:23:35]  But see, they don't want to hear that, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:23:37]  Gotta pause there, because Alex almost said, you know what, kids are really dying?
[00:23:41]  In response to someone bringing up Sandy, because his brain is wired to think that...
[00:23:47]  To deny it, yeah.
[00:23:47]  Exactly.
[00:23:48]  That is a tell right there.
[00:23:49]  Nobody's dying at Sandy.
[00:23:52]  People are starving and mass shooting.
[00:23:54]  People are starving and mass shooting.
[00:23:56]  No, I can't legally...
[00:23:58]  Whoops, Alex.
[00:24:01]  Might have showed some cards there, buddy.
[00:24:03]  Oh, boy.
[00:24:03]  Because they're wearing their, you know, liberal...
[00:24:06]  Outfits and sashaying around.
[00:24:08]  It's all sick.
[00:24:11]  By the way, they keep reminding me I need to talk about products.
[00:24:14]  We won't be around here.
[00:24:16]  Yeah, you should get some InfoWars t-shirts and books and ball caps.
[00:24:19]  And a mask.
[00:24:20]  And 5G kills.
[00:24:21]  It's a pretty amazing shirt.
[00:24:22]  It's a great shirt.
[00:24:23]  It's a great shirt.
[00:24:25]  Apparently...
[00:24:25]  Masks aren't a big seller.
[00:24:28]  Well, masks are a partisan issue now, apparently, which is...
[00:24:31]  I'm thrilled.
[00:24:32]  I'm thrilled to see that this is the way that we've decided to go.
[00:24:36]  To live in a world?
[00:24:37]  Well, at least some people have decided to experience things.
[00:24:41]  It's a bummer.
[00:24:42]  It's a real bummer.
[00:24:43]  You know, we're a blue state or a mask state, and they're a red state or a no-mask state, and somehow that's the world.
[00:24:50]  Great.
[00:24:51]  So Alex, of course, gets to a plug there for his cool, cool 5G shirt.
[00:24:56]  And hey, man, look.
[00:24:58]  Plugging is great, but there's something else that's better.
[00:25:01]  X2's back in stock, 50% off.
[00:25:04]  But really, I need your word of mouth.
[00:25:05]  You need your word of mouth.
[00:25:06]  You need to spread the word.
[00:25:07]  You are Paul Revere.
[00:25:08]  Get it done now.
[00:25:09]  Take action now.

=== Alex's Attention Ruse (15:23) ===

[00:25:14]  So I know that everyone had fun with jokes about Alex eating his neighbors, but ultimately, as you can hear from this clip, before he was trending all over, he doesn't know about that when he's on air.
[00:25:26]  Just giving exactly what he wants.
[00:25:28]  He needs word of mouth.
[00:25:30]  Desperately.
[00:25:31]  And he would have gladly paid everyone to do exactly what they did.
[00:25:34]  On May 1st, on the day of this episode, he also posted a special video where he, quote, responds to false claims he ate his neighbors.
[00:25:43]  Already twisting...
[00:25:44]  Fuck off!
[00:25:45]  Exactly.
[00:25:46]  God damn it.
[00:25:47]  The description of the video is, quote, Alex Jones responds while trending number one on Twitter about eating his neighbors.
[00:25:54]  Here is how that response begins.
[00:25:57]  A modest proposal is hands down the most famous literary example in the world of satire.
[00:26:07]  Now, a few days ago, live on air, I talked about the fact that the UN admits, the World Health Program head, that 135 million people are estimated to starve to death in the next year, not from COVID-19, but from the lockdown that COVID-19 has triggered.
[00:26:25]  A planetary depression is down here.
[00:26:27]  We're already looking at a hundred and something million gonna die in the next year.
[00:26:30]  If it keeps going, it's gonna be worse.
[00:26:32]  There are a further 135 million people facing crisis levels of hunger or worse.
[00:26:39]  That means 135 million people on earth are marching toward the brink of starvation.
[00:26:45]  An additional 130 million people.
[00:26:49]  Could be pushed to the break of starvation by the end of 2020.
[00:26:54]  That's a total of 265 million people.
[00:26:58]  Our analysis shows that 300,000 people could starve to death every single day over a three-month period.
[00:27:05]  So I went on air and I said, well, this is my own modest proposal.
[00:27:08]  I said, let's not eat the poor people, like in Jonathan Swift's story, eating poor Irish children that he proposed during a depression.
[00:27:17]  Let's...
[00:27:18]  Eat the rich.
[00:27:19]  Let's eat the elite.
[00:27:21]  So that's how he's going to spin this.
[00:27:23]  It's spectacular.
[00:27:25]  Oh, man.
[00:27:26]  I swear to God, if we did this, we did this, we said this, we did it, he's not supposed to be able to jump the General Lee over this fucking nightmare of a situation.
[00:27:37]  And somehow he got millions of dollars of free press out of this.
[00:27:41]  And he couldn't have if people had just ignored it.
[00:27:43]  Cool.
[00:27:43]  He would never be making this video where he tries to pretend that he's fucking Jonathan Swift.
[00:27:48]  With his bullshit about what I suggested is we eat the elite.
[00:27:53]  Go fuck yourself.
[00:27:54]  You're the guy who's fighting for the fucking poor.
[00:27:57]  You piece of shit.
[00:27:58]  And the way he's able to fold this in with his exploitation of people in the developing world going through a hunger crisis.
[00:28:06]  It's all really...
[00:28:08]  It's exactly what he would want.
[00:28:12]  It's perfect from his end.
[00:28:14]  And he gets to argue that everybody is just taking a little clip.
[00:28:18]  Of him, and it's out of context, man.
[00:28:20]  I don't literally mean kill them.
[00:28:21]  I don't literally mean eat them.
[00:28:22]  Eat the rich, everyone knows that term as well.
[00:28:25]  So instead, Twitter, Facebook, Google, all of them took little 20-second, 30-second, one-minute clips out of context to say that I was actually saying I'm gonna eat my neighbors, and I'm a psychotic.
[00:28:38]  Well, I mean, you did say this.
[00:28:41]  My superpower's being honest.
[00:28:42]  I've extrapolated this out, and I won't have to for a few years since I got food and stuff.
[00:28:47]  But I'm literally looking at my neighbors now and going, am I ready to hang them up and gut them and skin them and chop them up?
[00:28:53]  And you know what?
[00:28:53]  I'm ready.
[00:28:54]  My daughters aren't starving to death.
[00:28:55]  I'll eat my neighbors.
[00:28:56]  See, my superpower is being honest.
[00:28:59]  I'll eat your ass.
[00:29:00]  I will.
[00:29:02]  I'm a combat model, optimum self-sufficiency.
[00:29:06]  Probably the leader.
[00:29:08]  The point is, is have you thought about that yet?
[00:29:10]  Because I'm somebody that thought I could fix this and I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors.
[00:29:16]  You think I like sizing up my neighbor, how I'm going to haul him up by a chain and chop his ass up?
[00:29:24]  I'll do it.
[00:29:25]  My children aren't going to do it.
[00:29:27]  That sounds to me like someone who's actually talking about eating people, but I mean...
[00:29:33]  Who knows?
[00:29:33]  Yes, Swift used to put in a little couple jokes here and there, you know?
[00:29:37]  He was pretty clever.
[00:29:38]  Yeah.
[00:29:38]  He had a nice little turn of phrase going on there.
[00:29:41]  Well, I mean, that is an essential piece of it.
[00:29:45]  You would think.
[00:29:45]  So back to his response video, he's just basically saying, man, I was just being Swift.
[00:29:51]  Of course.
[00:29:52]  And clearly you watch the video, I'm not saying that, but it shows how they think you're so stupid that you won't get satire.
[00:30:00]  Even though during that show I said, This is an allegory of Jonathan Swift.
[00:30:04]  He did not.
[00:30:05]  He absolutely did not.
[00:30:08]  And further...
[00:30:10]  You think Christ would eat somebody?
[00:30:12]  He would never do that.
[00:30:13]  I will.
[00:30:14]  I'm not going to watch my daughter starve to death.
[00:30:19]  Now, you could say that was a metaphysical hypothetical, but it's really not.
[00:30:23]  And let's just get past the jokes here.
[00:30:27]  Yeah, let's get past the jokes, saying it's not a hypothetical.
[00:30:30]  But just for the courts and everything, I'm joking around here.
[00:30:33]  I'm not going to eat anybody.
[00:30:35]  Adding that little cute caveat over the courts.
[00:30:38]  I'll eat one of these globalists on a spit.
[00:30:42]  Oh, I'm a performance artist, like they say.
[00:30:45]  Alex Jones is real.
[00:30:47]  Everybody knows.
[00:30:48]  I'm as fake as they come.
[00:30:50]  Your calls are straight ahead.
[00:30:51]  He went out of his way during that rant to be like, I'm...
[00:30:56]  Fucking serious.
[00:30:57]  But also, hey, I'm playing both sides of this in case this could get me in trouble.
[00:31:03]  He's such a piece of shit.
[00:31:06]  It's great.
[00:31:08]  I'm really bummed because everybody ruined that clip for me too.
[00:31:11]  I had so much fun with it and then the internet saw it and they gave him all kinds of publicity and money and he's like, fuck me.
[00:31:18]  Now it's no fun that he's going to eat people.
[00:31:21]  I had so much fun.
[00:31:22]  We were so innocent a few days ago.
[00:31:25]  There was a great time.
[00:31:27]  So here's the last clip from his response video, which ends, of course, with a long commercial.
[00:31:34]  Naturally.
[00:31:35]  But this is the last bit of his content.
[00:31:37]  I'm going to say it again.
[00:31:39]  If Jonathan Swift, 290 years ago, really wanted to eat Irish children, then I'm with him.
[00:31:47]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[00:31:48]  Wait, what just happened?
[00:31:48]  Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[00:31:50]  Let's do another take of this, Alex.
[00:31:51]  What are you saying?
[00:31:52]  Listen to that again.
[00:31:53]  I'm going to say it again.
[00:31:55]  If Jonathan Swift, 290 years ago, really wanted to eat Irish children, then I'm with him.
[00:32:02]  But of course, he didn't really want to eat the children.
[00:32:05]  So you're not with him.
[00:32:06]  He was illustrating absurdity by being absurd.
[00:32:09]  That's the definition of satire.
[00:32:12]  So you do want to eat children.
[00:32:14]  They've taken out a context, which I knew they would do when I did it.
[00:32:17]  And that's how we have these learning moments is people then see how they're deceiving.
[00:32:22]  And you can go to banned.video and see the whole 10-minute segment for yourself.
[00:32:25]  So here is my modest proposal to not eat the children, but actually eat the people that trigger the global depression.
[00:32:32]  I'm Alex Jones, and this is The Info.
[00:32:35]  The definition of satire is not pointing out absurdity by being absurd.
[00:32:39]  Merriam-Webster defines it as, quote, a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn.
[00:32:46]  A second definition is, quote, trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly.
[00:32:53]  This is going to end up being a very standard definition, and that second part is honestly the part Alex seems to be missing.
[00:32:58]  Satire is directed, it's targeted, specifically toward a societal vice or folly, which is heightened and laid bare by the use of irony, humor, or even sometimes absurdity.
[00:33:09]  A modest proposal is held up as an enduring piece of literary satire because what it did was use a grotesque and ironic suggestion to expose and mock the prevailing attitudes society had towards the poor.
[00:33:21]  Swift used the idea of eating poor children as a way of highlighting how attempts to help the impoverished had been stupid ideas themselves, and it was a problem to be taken seriously.
[00:33:31]  Conversely, Alex was not talking about any greater societal folly or vice in his diatribe about eating his neighbors.
[00:33:36]  He was not talking about this as a solution to worldwide hunger like he seems to want to pretend now.
[00:33:41]  He was not talking about it because his neighbors were rich and somehow they're the ones responsible for the worldwide depression he thinks we can avoid by going back to work prematurely.
[00:33:50]  Alex was just talking about eating his neighbors because he imagined a scenario where his children needed food.
[00:33:56]  It was that simple.
[00:33:58]  It's not satire.
[00:34:00]  What Alex did fails to be satire because it didn't have a larger meaning.
[00:34:03]  It was just him yelling about how he was an alpha male who was willing to murder and eat people so his children wouldn't starve.
[00:34:08]  You can go listen to the whole thing if you want, and you will not find a larger meaning to it than that.
[00:34:13]  It's not a methodical act of satire that wishes to convey a deeper truth.
[00:34:17]  It was an idiot ranting about his post-apocalyptic murder fantasies.
[00:34:21]  But I do believe that Alex did predict that people would talk about it.
[00:34:25]  It's amazing it took three days for people to pick up on the story, but they did, and Alex got exactly what he wanted.
[00:34:30]  You can hear it in that clip there.
[00:34:32]  He's saying that he knew people would take his words out of context, and he'd go hear it on his own site.
[00:34:36]  This is working essentially exactly how Alex would hope, and ultimately serves as nothing more than free press bonanza for him.
[00:34:43]  And I don't know if there's any other way this could have played out.
[00:34:47]  That's why I was so impressed on our Friday episode that people weren't covering the story.
[00:34:51]  I thought it was a choice, but, you know.
[00:34:54]  It was very much not a choice.
[00:34:56]  It turns out just no one knew about it.
[00:34:58]  And once folks found out, one of the sites ran a story about it.
[00:35:01]  And before you know it, every other site had their own post about Alex eating his neighbors.
[00:35:05]  It was trending at the top of Twitter most of the day Friday, and people were doing that thing where they put his rants over music, which is just more free press, and we saw how it worked out with the We Love Our Somalis video, how much he embraced that himself.
[00:35:19]  Too bad Red Mask's rendition of Skanks for the Memories didn't go as viral.
[00:35:24]  Sure.
[00:35:24]  And like I said, I just don't think there's any other way this could have gone.
[00:35:28]  Alex knows that if he says completely fucked up things, there's a really good chance that people will not be able to resist the urge to make jokes about it and post articles on high-profile websites about his comments.
[00:35:38]  Everyone probably has good intentions, that they think that what he's saying is nuts and they want to mock him or think that the coverage will somehow hurt him, but they're unfortunately wrong.
[00:35:47]  There's probably no way to deal with this, but Alex knows that he can essentially hack media attention with extreme outbursts, then he can lie about his intentions and pretend he was doing some masterful satire.
[00:35:56]  He gets all the free press exposure from being mocked by everybody, and then this dumb video he puts out where he pretends he's Jonathan Swift, he gives himself the best chance possible of convincing the most gullible people who come check out his site that maybe he was onto something and the media lies about him.
[00:36:12]  It's all a plus from his perspective, and there's really no way to deal with it, except by changing paradigms dramatically.
[00:36:18]  I would suggest that no one should ever cover his outbursts, because they're not newsworthy in any way.
[00:36:23]  There's no way that would ever happen, though, so long as his outbursts are interesting enough for media places to recognize their potential as clickbait.
[00:36:29]  So I think we're all just kind of fucked, and we're all going to be stuck in the middle of this trap where Alex knows how to get free press out of people with escalating insane outbursts, and people who are driven by clicks and traffic know that they can also profit off that.
[00:36:46]  It's a symbiotic parasitic system.
[00:36:48]  There's no way around.
[00:36:50]  And there's people who aren't even...
[00:36:53]  Who are driven by the same profit motive, who are driven by the endorphins they get out of things being posted on Twitter.
[00:36:59]  You have the exact same joke being made over and over and over again, and people putting out memes.
[00:37:07]  Whatever, you can't stop that.
[00:37:10]  It's all fun.
[00:37:14]  There's a part of me that wants it to be like...
[00:37:17]  If you are going to go after him, do it through our lens, just so there's some sort of distance between his publicity and what he wants.
[00:37:28]  But I don't know.
[00:37:29]  I mean, maybe.
[00:37:29]  Maybe that's a little self-serving.
[00:37:31]  It might be.
[00:37:32]  It might be a complete lie I tell myself just to make me feel important.
[00:37:36]  I mean, who knows?
[00:37:37]  Yeah, it's entirely possible.
[00:37:39]  I just think that there are people who are...
[00:37:42]  They are dealing with Alex one way, but he's really the other.
[00:37:46]  You know, there is...
[00:37:48]  And it's impossible to convince people how you should look at this.
[00:37:54]  Because on a very basic level, I'm a human.
[00:37:58]  I completely understand that there's a guy who has a...
[00:38:02]  Professional looking TV show yelling about how he's going to eat your ass.
[00:38:06]  He's going to eat his neighbors.
[00:38:08]  We left!
[00:38:09]  How can you not?
[00:38:10]  It's very funny.
[00:38:11]  Right.
[00:38:12]  And without a ton of awareness of what he is, how he operates, how he does these things in order to get a rise out of people that benefits him.
[00:38:21]  I just don't know if there's any way to curb those impulses in people, or even if people knew if they would do it.
[00:38:28]  I don't know.
[00:38:29]  I just think we're trapped.
[00:38:30]  I say we get rid of Alex Jones.
[00:38:31]  So nobody's allowed to put Alex Jones in a headline or in anything.
[00:38:35]  He just has to be called a white nationalist interdimensional space being believer.
[00:38:41]  And that's what in every single article and story and tweet, it has that as his name.
[00:38:47]  I don't think that helps him.
[00:38:48]  No.
[00:38:49]  Maybe.
[00:38:50]  I think it might still.
[00:38:52]  I was trying to kick around ideas of what you could do.
[00:38:55]  And one of the things I thought was maybe make the headline of the story Alex Jones' pathetic attempt for attention.
[00:39:02]  That would work.
[00:39:03]  I don't know if it would.
[00:39:04]  I don't know if it would work, but it was something that I thought, if you make the lead of the story that this man is so sad...
[00:39:10]  Treat him with disdain.
[00:39:13]  Well, if you're going to give him the attention, at least make it bad.
[00:39:17]  He's trying to get this attention.
[00:39:18]  I don't know if that would work, but it's just a thought.
[00:39:21]  Make it clear how transparent he is.
[00:39:23]  How transparent and sad.
[00:39:25]  But, you know, the internet here is a force for good in the...
[00:39:30]  But at the same time, I don't know.
[00:39:35]  Man said he was going to eat your ass, Dan.
[00:39:37]  It's very funny.
[00:39:38]  And at the same time, it's not like it was only an attempt to get attention.
[00:39:42]  He was...
[00:39:43]  Fucking struggling on that episode.
[00:39:45]  When he came back, he was crying about his kids and stuff.
[00:39:49]  It's not like it was all a brilliant ruse to get attention.
[00:39:53]  It was a horrible, ridiculous, untethered outburst that he had that everyone turned into a brilliant PR move.
[00:40:06]  Because of the way they engaged with his content.
[00:40:09]  And like I said, I'm not shitting on anybody for what they did.
[00:40:12]  I understand why anybody would respond to it the way they did.
[00:40:15]  I just also think...
[00:40:16]  I mean, he wins.
[00:40:19]  What are you going to do?

=== President Declares War on China (07:15) ===

[00:40:23]  Anyway...
[00:40:23]  How do we keep losing, Dan?
[00:40:26]  Game's rigged.
[00:40:27]  Whatever.
[00:40:28]  So in this next clip, Alex talks about how Trump knows that his numbers are slipping.
[00:40:33]  Right?
[00:40:33]  Sure.
[00:40:34]  There's one solution.
[00:40:35]  Now, let me make the big announcement here.
[00:40:38]  We are at war with China.
[00:40:40]  There we go.
[00:40:40]  There it was.
[00:40:41]  But China is only the global slave farm.
[00:40:44]  Sure.
[00:40:46]  That is used to leverage out the planet.
[00:40:48]  We're shut down with regulations.
[00:40:50]  They can do whatever they want.
[00:40:53]  They're the New World Order's economic and military muscle now.
[00:40:56]  But before they were able to finish their takeover, we got Trump in.
[00:41:00]  And a pro-America faction.
[00:41:02]  And the government is battling.
[00:41:03]  To save the country right now, and we're battling right now.
[00:41:07]  But big tech and the censorship that's going on is crippling the president, and his belief that he can overpower that and override that is wrong.
[00:41:15]  And now, reportedly, you know, he's been getting mad at his campaign staffer, his campaign head, because the internal polling shows Trump's starting to lose numbers, which he is.
[00:41:25]  Because the globalists are putting us into a depression, and it doesn't matter whose fault it is.
[00:41:30]  People are getting pissed at Trump because he's not stopping it.
[00:41:37]  The way to stop it is to declare that we're at war with China.
[00:41:41]  It's honest.
[00:41:42]  Cool.
[00:41:43]  The little newer little rats will run.
[00:41:46]  So that's awful.
[00:41:48]  Cool.
[00:41:48]  Hey, he'll eat your ass, Dan.
[00:41:50]  Let's direct more attention towards this guy.
[00:41:53]  The guy who's saying that the president needs to declare war with China.
[00:41:57]  Of course.
[00:41:59]  This is a...
[00:42:00]  This sounds more like a Coke-fueled pitch meeting to Michael Bay.
[00:42:03]  Like, it's got all the...
[00:42:04]  Okay, so...
[00:42:05]  No, no, no.
[00:42:05]  So what's going on at the same time is that China is actually secretly at war with us, and that's why when we got the president in, now it's time for the explosions, okay?
[00:42:14]  You pull up the explosions everywhere.
[00:42:16]  Will Smith.
[00:42:17]  I don't care.
[00:42:17]  Let's get it done!
[00:42:18]  It's good to know that Alex really gained a lot of his pseudo-credibility early on as being an anti-war guy.
[00:42:25]  He's an anti-war guy.
[00:42:26]  He's still an anti-war guy.
[00:42:27]  It turns out that those wars that we were in just weren't big enough for him.
[00:42:30]  They weren't the right wars.
[00:42:31]  They weren't world wars, which is what he actually wants.
[00:42:36]  He wants a cataclysmic, apocalyptic war.
[00:42:38]  Yeah, of course.
[00:42:38]  As opposed to...
[00:42:40]  Awful wars.
[00:42:41]  People who imagine themselves to be able to survive tend to want to be those lone survivors, you know?
[00:42:48]  It's true.
[00:42:49]  Like, I'm never going to get the chance to live out my dreams unless there's a world war with China.
[00:42:54]  Yeah.
[00:42:55]  On our last episode, Jordan, you informed me that Trump had mentioned that he'd seen proof that the virus came from the lab in Wuhan.
[00:43:03]  Because war is good and right.
[00:43:05]  And I had not heard that by the time we recorded.
[00:43:09]  I regret to have seen that clip now.
[00:43:14]  It's bad.
[00:43:15]  Alex talks about it here in this next clip a little bit.
[00:43:18]  I will say, does not analyze things much.
[00:43:20]  Just kind of his response is, of course.
[00:43:23]  Which is, I guess, that's probably what you should expect.
[00:43:26]  They have instituted a martial law lockdown beginning in blue cities following communist Chinese propaganda and are attempting to complete our journey into a complete depression that is already worldwide.
[00:43:38]  It is already rated as the greatest depression in history by every metric that is only going to intensify if we do not immediately reopen everything and admit this is a giant hoax.
[00:43:50]  But once we've committed to a lie, they know the general public likes to sissy pants around and get into all the fear.
[00:43:57]  But President Trump released the bombshell info yesterday.
[00:44:01]  We already know and the media totally ignored it, confirming he's seen the evidence.
[00:44:05]  The virus is manmade.
[00:44:07]  It came from the Wuhan lab.
[00:44:09]  Have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the origin of this virus?
[00:44:19]  Yes, I have.
[00:44:20]  Yes, I have.
[00:44:20]  And I think that the World Health Organization Should be ashamed of themselves.
[00:44:27]  Oh my fucking God.
[00:44:28]  Because they like the public relations agency for China.
[00:44:30]  President Trump yesterday saying he's seen evidence suggesting the coronavirus emerged from a lab in Wuhan, China, where the pandemic began.
[00:44:38]  This is senior U.S. officials are reportedly looking into ways to hold China accountable for its handling of the virus.
[00:44:44]  According to the Washington Post, the president in the White House...
[00:44:48]  And White House aides have discussed stripping China of its sovereign immunity, which would open the door for the U.S. government or COVID-19 victims and their families to sue China for damages.
[00:44:59]  Some administration officials have also reportedly discussed having the U.S. cancel part of its debt obligations to China.
[00:45:08]  That's not enough.
[00:45:10]  Sure.
[00:45:13]  Declare war.
[00:45:15]  Alex wants war.
[00:45:17]  I mean, he's talked about it a bit in the past months, but it's getting to a point where he's being really blunt about it.
[00:45:25]  What does he imagine happens after that?
[00:45:29]  What does he imagine happens after two large...
[00:45:33]  You know, superpowers declare war against each other.
[00:45:37]  What happens then?
[00:45:38]  We each choose one champion to fight in single combat.
[00:45:42]  Whomever wins rules the world.
[00:45:45]  And what happens after this protracted period where we've alienated a lot of our allies over the last couple years, let's say?
[00:45:53]  Well, they each choose one champion.
[00:45:56]  To fight against us?
[00:45:57]  Exactly, yes.
[00:45:58]  I don't imagine most of the world...
[00:46:01]  Who are generally our allies being too thrilled with the idea of us declaring war on China.
[00:46:08]  No.
[00:46:08]  I would imagine it would not be the easiest sell.
[00:46:11]  Yeah.
[00:46:12]  No, we're going to need...
[00:46:14]  The White House needs to start hiring people whose only job it is to really listen hard and tackle.
[00:46:20]  They should hire Brian Urlacher.
[00:46:22]  He's got his hair back now.
[00:46:23]  Get him ready to fucking take the guy down if he starts to say...
[00:46:28]  I think we should declare, and then he's gone.
[00:46:30]  That's what I would say.
[00:46:31]  And even if it's just a holiday, you still got to tackle him.
[00:46:36]  I declare it's our birthday.
[00:46:38]  Done.
[00:46:39]  I don't know, man.
[00:46:41]  It's a mess.
[00:46:43]  I don't even know how to have any kind of conversation about it outside of...
[00:46:48]  I hate this.
[00:46:52]  I don't understand why people are listening to him.
[00:46:56]  Or allowing him to speak in any functional way.
[00:46:59]  I just don't understand it.
[00:47:00]  He should be, like, just fine.
[00:47:03]  He gets to stay president.
[00:47:04]  Put him in a box.
[00:47:05]  Just put him in a nice little box.
[00:47:07]  Have him deliver addresses to people who dressed like the people who were there.
[00:47:11]  He can't see.
[00:47:12]  He doesn't tell the difference.
[00:47:13]  Create a fun little mini world where he gets to play act as president.
[00:47:16]  That would be nice.
[00:47:17]  That would be nice.
[00:47:18]  I think we could do it.
[00:47:19]  So Owen Schroer is out at a rally of some sort.

=== Outbreaks and Misinformation (07:23) ===

[00:47:23]  I guess there's another protest against the distancing and all that.
[00:47:27]  And so he brings up a couple of things in this next clip that I think are just, like, real stupid.
[00:47:32]  We're seeing YouTube and Twitter ban the videos of those California doctors saying, hey, this isn't working.
[00:47:38]  It's now been discovered that Facebook has actually been doing the tracing application on their Facebook apps for a month now, and they've actually measured...
[00:47:48]  How many percentage of people have stayed in, not moved, versus how many percentage of people have been out on the streets moving?
[00:47:53]  And the numbers where people stay in and don't leave their house is the numbers where we have the biggest outbreaks.
[00:47:59]  New Jersey, New York.
[00:48:01]  No shit!
[00:48:01]  What?
[00:48:01]  Which is true.
[00:48:02]  You stay herded inside, no light, it gets in the air conditioning, you're all scared, and your body just thinks you're supposed to die when you're all herded in the dark.
[00:48:13]  So Owen brings up two dumb points there, and let's take them one at a time.
[00:48:18]  Wow, is that dumb!
[00:48:19]  So the doctors he's referring to in California are Dan Erickson and Artin Masihi.
[00:48:25]  The two of them run an urgent care center in Bakersfield, and they've gained a bit of prominence lately because they put out a DIY press conference video where they said that we need to go back to work and the virus isn't so bad.
[00:48:37]  They were basing this off the information they'd gathered at their clinic, which is the first problem with their conclusions.
[00:48:42]  They made the mistake of thinking that their sample, the people who chose to come into their clinic, was representative of the general population, which it is not.
[00:48:50]  Because they found a high number of people who came to their clinic testing positive but not dying, they extrapolated that to the entire population, which is just not good work.
[00:48:59]  Many, many doctors and infectious disease experts have come out very critically about their information, and they've been denounced by the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine.
[00:49:11]  California State Senator Richard Pan, who is also a pediatrician and the chair of the Senate Health Committee, harshly criticized them and said, quote, they're really doing this as a way to fish for attention.
[00:49:22]  These guys suck, and they really just exist to give cover for people to push the this-isn't-a-big-deal narrative, which makes sense that they're a big hit at InfoWars.
[00:49:30]  They are a zero.
[00:49:32]  We tested and gave care to literally tens of wealthy, white, affluent people, and looks like everybody is fine.
[00:49:41]  I don't need to worry about the numbers stipulating that 80% of deaths in Georgia were in the black community.
[00:49:47]  I don't need to worry about that.
[00:49:48]  I'm not particularly sure what the demographics or even the gross number of people who come into their clinic are, but it doesn't matter.
[00:49:56]  There's a reason that this is not a statistically representative sample, just based on the idea that these are the people who chose to come into your clinic.
[00:50:06]  So, anyway, as for that Facebook tracking thing, I didn't even care to look in to see what Owen's talking about and misunderstanding, because even if I pretend that everything he's saying is totally accurate, it's so easy to see how he got the wrong conclusion.
[00:50:18]  If we stipulate his information...
[00:50:20]  Owen is trying to say there's a causal link between staying in and there being a bigger outbreak.
[00:50:25]  However, that link is not established, and it's honestly more likely that the relationship goes the other direction.
[00:50:30]  In places where there's a larger outbreak, people are more likely to take things seriously and follow the stay-at-home guidelines.
[00:50:36]  How is it this...
[00:50:37]  I don't know.
[00:50:38]  I was listening to that going like, or maybe the people in areas of large outbreaks know someone who fucking died and are taking it for very seriously.
[00:50:48]  That could be.
[00:50:49]  And you dumbed up.
[00:50:50]  If you find a piece of data, namely that in areas with larger outbreaks more people are staying inside, you can't report that as staying inside makes outbreaks worse.
[00:50:59]  Alex is trying to justify that absurd theory that Owen's putting forth, but it's just trash.
[00:51:03]  This is just trash work.
[00:51:05]  It's definitely a fingerprint of someone who's trying to make information conform to pre-existing conclusions as opposed to letting information guide them on their way to a conclusion, which should be InfoWars' motto.
[00:51:17]  Or something.
[00:51:18]  People are avoiding beaches with giant shark outbreaks on them, so naturally that must mean that if you stay away from a beach, sharks are coming out of everywhere.
[00:51:27]  That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
[00:51:29]  Yeah, I mean, that's solid thinking.
[00:51:31]  Yeah, brilliant.
[00:51:32]  Solid thinking.
[00:51:33]  So there's some gun news.
[00:51:35]  Sure.
[00:51:35]  Canada, effective immediately, bans 1,500 types of assault weapons using the crisis to take the guns.
[00:51:42]  because you're all complying so well.
[00:51:44]  That's a beta test for here.
[00:51:48]  So just remember, bending over to all this is only going to make it worse.
[00:51:53]  I'm going to go back to Owen Shroyer here.
[00:51:54]  So Canada's gun ban wasn't done using the coronavirus situation at all, and in fact, it probably has just about nothing to do with it.
[00:52:01]  The 1,500 models of assault weapons were banned in response to the recent spree shooting in Nova Scotia, which was the deadliest mass shooting ever in Canada.
[00:52:10]  Over 13 hours, the gunman killed 22 people and injured three others at multiple locations around the province.
[00:52:16]  I don't know too much about the killer's motivation or psychology, but the attack did begin as a domestic disturbance against his girlfriend, because that seems very consistent in these cases.
[00:52:25]  Because that's how it always fucking happens.
[00:52:27]  I don't know what else to say about the shooting other than they are an absolute tragedy that didn't need to happen.
[00:52:33]  Canada is their own country, and if they decide that one of the ways they want to remedy the problem...
[00:52:38]  That they have experienced is by restricting access to certain types of guns, then they have the right to do that.
[00:52:43]  It has nothing to do with the virus, but Alex needs it appear to be, because otherwise the story seems to be about how dangerous domestically violent men with guns can be, and that story is not in his best interest to cover.
[00:52:54]  I think we should focus on that story.
[00:52:56]  That story seems like a really important one.
[00:52:58]  People should.
[00:52:59]  Alex can't.
[00:53:00]  That's probably true.
[00:53:02]  So Owen is expressing this different feeling than Alex.
[00:53:05]  He's frustrated that Trump isn't doing anything.
[00:53:09]  We've proven that China attacked us with a bioweapon.
[00:53:13]  Trump's not doing anything.
[00:53:15]  So Owen had been sort of expressing some of these ideas.
[00:53:18]  Alex is trying to reassure him here, and he says something that I think is very telling.
[00:53:24]  You know, Owen, you're like, okay, great.
[00:53:27]  Trump says it came out of Wuhan.
[00:53:28]  We already know that months ago.
[00:53:29]  I understand, Owen, but it's like Force 10 from Navarone.
[00:53:32]  When they blow up the dam and it doesn't just fall down right away, he goes, give it a couple minutes, and it's going to collapse.
[00:53:38]  He's got to have times of cracks to all form.
[00:53:40]  We already have blown up a lot of their operations.
[00:53:43]  They still launched their Disease X plan.
[00:53:45]  They already had ready.
[00:53:46]  But now they're badly coordinated.
[00:53:48]  They're not in full control.
[00:53:50]  And let's just say Bill Gates' dream is never going to get realized now.
[00:53:56]  Now, it won't be comfortable for you and I, because you're going to have to replace me when they whack me or put me in prison soon.
[00:54:01]  It's okay.
[00:54:02]  You have to be ready.
[00:54:03]  Just double down.
[00:54:04]  Because it'll be death and destruction if you don't, Owen.
[00:54:06]  So Trump's getting there.
[00:54:08]  He can't scare people too much.
[00:54:10]  But, I mean, he's already getting us ready for war with China.
[00:54:13]  Everybody ready to suit up for that?
[00:54:15]  Because, I mean, it's on.
[00:54:16]  They're going to hit us with proxy wars.
[00:54:17]  They're going to pull a bunch of stuff.
[00:54:18]  Everybody ready?
[00:54:19]  Because, I mean, we don't want to be slaves.
[00:54:22]  It's going to be time to fight real soon.
[00:54:23]  So the war stuff is all just sort of this continuing trend.
[00:54:26]  But he says there, you need to replace me.
[00:54:29]  Yeah.
[00:54:30]  Alex is starting to talk more openly about replacement.

=== Bolsonaro's Fractured Family (05:20) ===

[00:54:34]  Successor!
[00:54:35]  And apparently it's Owen.
[00:54:36]  That's a real bummer.
[00:54:37]  But I kind of got that sense, too.
[00:54:40]  It looked like it should be Paul for years, but I think Paul, by virtue especially of him, like...
[00:54:46]  Saying that Alex was wrong about Sandy Hook.
[00:54:49]  I think he might have tried to go into business for himself a little too much.
[00:54:53]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:54:54]  You can't get too far out of pocket if you're Paul Joseph watching.
[00:54:58]  Especially not with the very clear father-son thing going on between Alex and Owen.
[00:55:03]  And Owen's pretty popular in some of the more fringe communities of younger people that could be a profitable market.
[00:55:10]  Maybe.
[00:55:11]  Alex gets into it in this next clip talking about how he can't submit to his enemies.
[00:55:15]  Sure.
[00:55:16]  And then it gets into a rant that is very disturbing.
[00:55:18]  And if you are sensitive to issues about abuse of children, let's say, maybe be careful.
[00:55:25]  But it's just gross.
[00:55:27]  This is just a gross.
[00:55:28]  This is a gross clip, Jordan.
[00:55:30]  This country is at war.
[00:55:32]  And we need to start this war.
[00:55:33]  And I just can't lay down.
[00:55:36]  And I've said this a thousand times.
[00:55:38]  I'll say it again.
[00:55:38]  If we were getting conquered by something better, I'd join it.
[00:55:41]  What?
[00:55:41]  I'd be honest about it.
[00:55:42]  I'd say this is better.
[00:55:43]  This is more pro-human.
[00:55:45]  I like it.
[00:55:46]  I'm going to join this.
[00:55:47]  This is not the worst damn thing you could be on the planet.
[00:55:51]  You couldn't...
[00:55:52]  I'm serious.
[00:55:53]  You couldn't stick my arms in a blender, man, and get me to sign on to one day.
[00:55:56]  You put a gun to my head.
[00:55:58]  This is, like, so horrible.
[00:56:00]  Like, Balasaro comes out and goes, look at the World Organization.
[00:56:02]  They put out their head group saying, have teachers masturbate newborn babies.
[00:56:08]  It says zero to four start the masturbation.
[00:56:12]  That's pedophilia.
[00:56:13]  That's the state touching your son and your daughter's genitals.
[00:56:16]  And the media went, oh, Balasaro's crazy.
[00:56:18]  It's not true.
[00:56:19]  Well, yeah, it's sex education.
[00:56:21]  And yeah, the teachers start, when the baby's born, stimulating their penis or clitoris.
[00:56:26]  I mean, it says it in the report.
[00:56:28]  It's pedophilia.
[00:56:30]  And they go, oh, we're not doing that.
[00:56:32]  Oh, we are doing that.
[00:56:33]  These people are frickin' pedophiles, man.
[00:56:37]  They're vampires.
[00:56:39]  They don't want to just screw your kids.
[00:56:41]  They want to screw their innocence and suck them dry.
[00:56:44]  And your child's first experience is going to be a nurse jerking them off.
[00:56:54]  Family show.
[00:56:57]  Why not?
[00:56:58]  They're injecting them with deadly poison.
[00:57:01]  Why not give them a handy?
[00:57:03]  They're encouraging kids to be gay.
[00:57:05]  Gay?
[00:57:07]  The WHO report says that they will start masturbating newborn babies.
[00:57:14]  You know what that means?
[00:57:15]  I didn't even plug this out.
[00:57:16]  It's stuff so intense.
[00:57:18]  If you don't get storeable food now, you're insane.
[00:57:21]  Almost everybody else doesn't have it or is lying to you.
[00:57:24]  We have it.
[00:57:24]  Wow.
[00:57:25]  I mean, what the fuck is this?
[00:57:28]  Just ranting.
[00:57:31]  About nonsense.
[00:57:33]  About masturbating infants.
[00:57:36]  Getting into just no time at all.
[00:57:39]  We got food buckets.
[00:57:40]  Yeah, well, of course.
[00:57:41]  I mean...
[00:57:42]  The Who plan is actually not to get fooled again.
[00:57:45]  I don't know if you knew that one or not.
[00:57:46]  They won't.
[00:57:47]  They will not get fooled again.
[00:57:49]  So apparently Bolsonaro recently came out on Facebook and made some pretty fucked up and completely unsubstantiated and unsourced claims about what the World Health Organization recommends for children.
[00:57:58]  This was part of his attack on the WHO surrounding the coronavirus because, you know, he's a strong-arm dictator, leader type, and he's resistant to the concept of taking things seriously that could tend to make him look personally weak.
[00:58:11]  Pink News looked into his claims and said that, quote, Bolsonaro appeared to be twisting information from a 2010 guide developed with the World Health Organization for parents, not children, by the Federal Center for Health Education in Germany.
[00:58:25]  The guide provides information to parents on how to discuss sexuality and gender with their children and does not encourage sexual behavior.
[00:58:32]  Business Insider reported that it seemed to come from this guide called, quote, Standards for Sexuality Education in Europe.
[00:58:39]  They reviewed the guide and found that it was, quote, explanatory and does not encourage masturbation or homosexuality.
[00:58:46]  That's the part Alex is kind of downplaying.
[00:58:48]  Bolsonaro's post was also pretty homophobic because he's a huge anti-LGBTQ bigot, and he's been pretty open about that.
[00:58:55]  Alex wants this just to be about nurses masturbating infants, but that isn't all Bolsonaro was talking about, and none of it's even real.
[00:59:02]  Even Bolsonaro seems to realize that he was talking a load of bullshit, because he deleted the post after he got pretty heavy criticism.
[00:59:09]  Alex is pretending that any of this is real, but it's not.
[00:59:12]  It's just a strong-arm, aspiring dictator lashing out against perceived enemies, which is Alex's kind of guy.
[00:59:18]  Yeah.
[00:59:18]  Even though he does not know his name.
[00:59:20]  No, he's Bolsa...
[00:59:21]  What was it this time?
[00:59:23]  Bolsasaro?
[00:59:24]  No, he's settled into this one.
[00:59:26]  Bolsario?
[00:59:27]  No, what is it?
[00:59:27]  I don't even know.
[00:59:28]  Was it just Bolsaro?
[00:59:29]  However he pronounced it in that clip is how he pretty standard pronounces it.
[00:59:33]  Real bad.
[00:59:34]  Yeah.
[00:59:35]  Good for you, Alex.
[00:59:35]  I think Bolsonaro might be unhinged right now, probably because his kids should be going to jail and so should he, but we'll see how that goes.

=== Earth Uninhabitable (07:56) ===

[00:59:45]  Right.
[00:59:45]  So, in this next clip...
[00:59:47]  A lot like Alex.
[00:59:49]  In this next clip, Alex has...
[00:59:50]  He wants this picture...
[00:59:53]  On screen, and the crew can't find it, and it's a little frustrating.
[00:59:57]  See, I had an image in my mind about...
[01:00:03]  Guys, can you pull up the man in the spacesuit standing in the National Park in the forest out by the trout stream?
[01:00:11]  But remember back in October, November, we had this image up for weeks on air, and I just said, this is the future.
[01:00:16]  I just feel it.
[01:00:17]  I see it.
[01:00:18]  It'll be the earth is uninhabitable for humans and we'll have to be in a spacesuit to be on it.
[01:00:23]  But it really won't be that the earth's uninhabitable.
[01:00:25]  It'll be that they're cutting us off now that we've become domesticated and now we're cut off from the land and now that we don't know how to take care of ourselves that the outside environment will be so toxic from what's been put into us and our immune system's been turned off that pollen in the air will kill us.
[01:00:45]  And that was kind of a psychic That's the imprint that I was having, and that's their whole rollout program.
[01:00:55]  If we can't find it over there in the gym, hanging on the wall, I had it actually printed up.
[01:01:01]  You got a gym?
[01:01:03]  Of course.
[01:01:03]  We can pull that off the wall.
[01:01:05]  Maybe next segment I'll show it to you.
[01:01:08]  You can only work out your mind.
[01:01:09]  That's the type of stuff we're talking about, and that's what we're faced with here.
[01:01:13]  And that's how you...
[01:01:15]  Control a population.
[01:01:19]  We can put it in post later.
[01:01:20]  It's fine.
[01:01:21]  Put it in post.
[01:01:23]  Oh, there it is.
[01:01:27]  But it's not an issue now.
[01:01:33]  I would suggest everybody get as self-sufficient as you can.
[01:01:36]  The big cities are nothing but giant kill grids.
[01:01:41]  Sure.
[01:01:41]  And I've known this, you've known this, Common Sense knows this.
[01:01:46]  It's time to get out of these places.
[01:01:48]  *sad music*
[01:01:50]  Because everything that's going to happen in them are going to be ten times worse than what happens outside of them.
[01:01:56]  And you already have the establishment fleeing the cities, getting out, admitting they're preparing for this because they've engineered it, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:02:02]  We need to get out.
[01:02:04]  Get out now.
[01:02:05]  Get out.
[01:02:06]  Run while you can.
[01:02:07]  Because they're going to have the clamp down, then turn the clamp down off, then turn the clamp down on.
[01:02:12]  I mean, it's over.
[01:02:13]  Unless we just admit it's all a hoax and they arrest the CHICOM agents and shut down the whole eugenics combine.
[01:02:19]  So, get your storable foods.
[01:02:20]  That's one place to start.
[01:02:22]  Infowarsstore.com.
[01:02:23]  Good place to start.
[01:02:24]  The storable foods you need that last 25 years you can just have as a backup that are very easy to transport and carry at the best price you're going to find.
[01:02:30]  God, just constant.
[01:02:32]  Constant, these pivots.
[01:02:33]  So we talk a lot about the kind of damage Alex Jones does by way of his crusades against people and how they can lead to targeted harassment.
[01:02:40]  And we talk about how his rhetoric has the tendency towards people getting the impression that they need to be the tool of God's vengeance against Alex's imagined enemies.
[01:02:48]  And all that stuff is bad.
[01:02:50]  But this clip, I think, represents another element of the damage Alex does to people who are unfortunate enough to believe he knows anything.
[01:02:56]  He can just fuck up your life.
[01:02:58]  It's one thing for him to profit off people by selling them a bunch of overpriced and pointless pills, but what he's doing right now could completely destroy someone.
[01:03:06]  Imagine you're a committed Infowars listener and believer who lives in a city, and you hear Alex repeatedly saying it's time to get out of the cities because they're kill grids.
[01:03:14]  Is it not possible that someone might hear that and take him seriously?
[01:03:17]  Like, what if you have a good job or you're a homeowner?
[01:03:20]  What if you have kids who have a dynamic web of social relationships already formed in their school?
[01:03:24]  What Alex is suggesting is a complete upheaval of all of those things.
[01:03:28]  And he's just flippantly throwing this out there because some weird vision he had about people in spacesuits to protect them from pollen or some shit.
[01:03:34]  This could really cause a lot of trouble.
[01:03:39]  What's going on with you?
[01:03:40]  Well, five years ago, I was a systems analyst for Comcast.
[01:03:45]  I was making six figures a year.
[01:03:47]  And then Alex told me to move.
[01:03:50]  So now I live here.
[01:03:53]  In Idaho.
[01:03:54]  This is great.
[01:03:56]  That was the image that I had in my head of anybody saying the words, I moved because Alex said to get out of the cities.
[01:04:03]  It made me so depressed.
[01:04:07]  Oh, God.
[01:04:09]  I learned how to chop wood.
[01:04:11]  Sure.
[01:04:11]  That's what I did.
[01:04:12]  I can run a trot line.
[01:04:15]  I ran out of storable foods about three years ago, and I ate his ass.
[01:04:20]  So we get guests coming up.
[01:04:23]  That's a little depressing to think about Alex affecting people to that extent.
[01:04:27]  Yeah.
[01:04:28]  But what's not depressing is the return of a guy who's Leo.
[01:04:32]  He's Neo.
[01:04:33]  No way!
[01:04:34]  He's the head of Matrixism.
[01:04:36]  Hell yes!
[01:04:37]  I do not respect Leo Zagami one bit.
[01:04:40]  No?
[01:04:40]  And so I don't care about any of the things he's saying about the Vatican.
[01:04:44]  Of course not.
[01:04:44]  I don't care at all.
[01:04:46]  And I honestly got so bored listening to this.
[01:04:50]  Really?
[01:04:50]  Yes, except for when it starts to get a little apocalyptic towards the end, and we have some interesting reveals, but he's just rattling on about the Pope.
[01:04:58]  I don't really care.
[01:04:59]  Yeah, come on.
[01:05:00]  Pope's doing stuff.
[01:05:01]  So they start talking a little bit about Mark Zuckerberg, and I think that Leo reveals he might be a little bit racist.
[01:05:08]  Did he invent Facebook?
[01:05:09]  No.
[01:05:10]  Oh.
[01:05:10]  I mean, obviously, Zuckerberg just looks like a robot.
[01:05:14]  He now wears pink sweaters like Bill Gates to look non-threatening.
[01:05:18]  I said, if Hitler wore pink sweaters, he would have taken over.
[01:05:20]  No one would have thought about it.
[01:05:21]  My God, he's wearing pink.
[01:05:22]  Hitler's like, ah, well, it's okay.
[01:05:24]  He's wearing a pink sweater.
[01:05:25]  I mean, who is Zuckerberg?
[01:05:27]  Another thing, Alex, he married a Chinese.
[01:05:30]  He's just learning Chinese all day long.
[01:05:33]  He's obsessed with China.
[01:05:35]  That's not good.
[01:05:36]  That's real racist.
[01:05:37]  Just a small point here.
[01:05:39]  Mark Zuckerberg's wife, Priscilla Chan, was born in Massachusetts.
[01:05:43]  And here's a little blurb about her from an article in Quartz.
[01:05:47]  Quote, A first-generation American, she grew up in Quincy, Massachusetts, a working-class suburb of Boston.
[01:05:52]  Her parents were ethnic Chinese who came to the United States from Saigon, part of a wave of refugees known colloquially as the Vietnamese Boat People.
[01:06:00]  Quote, you literally put your children on a boat, say goodbye, and I hope to meet them on the other side, says Chan.
[01:06:06]  The Vietnamese boat people were refugees fleeing Vietnam after the end of the Vietnam War, which, if you recall, ended when the People's Army of Vietnam took Saigon in April 1975.
[01:06:15]  You would not think that someone with that element in their family history would be particularly inclined to love the current Chinese government.
[01:06:23]  That seems like what I would be comfortable saying.
[01:06:26]  Well, we just heard there.
[01:06:27]  That's an expression of Leo being a raging racist.
[01:06:30]  Yeah, that sounds more like it.
[01:06:32]  He's married to a Chinese.
[01:06:33]  Yeah, no kidding.
[01:06:35]  Nobody's American unless they're white.
[01:06:39]  That's kind of the vibe.
[01:06:40]  So the two of them are talking about how Alex is in trouble, I guess.
[01:06:46]  And it turns out that recently...
[01:06:49]  Maria Abramovich, the artist, the performance artist, and Fiona Hill, the person who Alex attacked.
[01:06:56]  You're right.
[01:06:57]  Both of them have apparently said recently something to the effect of, I'd talk to him.
[01:07:03]  Oh, no.
[01:07:04]  This guy keeps lying about me.
[01:07:07]  I would be willing to talk to him.
[01:07:09]  Oh, no.
[01:07:09]  And so Alex believes that this is them trying to parlay.
[01:07:12]  Sure.
[01:07:13]  Why would Microsoft use the satanic high priestess as their pitch woman?

=== The End Times Revelations (15:43) ===

[01:07:18]  Because, of course, it opens the doors to acceptance also in the art world.
[01:07:23]  If you watch her, it's a circle.
[01:07:25]  They're watching.
[01:07:26]  She appears in the circle, which is the opposite.
[01:07:27]  If she's a demon, they need to be in the circle.
[01:07:30]  Let's explain that.
[01:07:31]  Sure.
[01:07:31]  We'll show some of that.
[01:07:32]  Because she's reached out to us.
[01:07:33]  She wants to meet with me, Leo.
[01:07:35]  I wonder why she wants to meet with me right now.
[01:07:38]  Seriously, that's who they've sent as their ambassador.
[01:07:40]  So does Fiona Hill.
[01:07:41]  She wants to meet.
[01:07:42]  Seriously.
[01:07:43]  So all these Soros people want to meet with me.
[01:07:45]  What do they think is going to happen when I meet with them?
[01:07:49]  They're going to activate the circle and you're going to be trapped inside.
[01:07:52]  This is the other way this game is played.
[01:07:55]  They won't talk to me!
[01:07:57]  They'll never talk to me!
[01:07:58]  Oh, they will talk to me?
[01:08:00]  I wonder what their plan is.
[01:08:02]  That's why they're talking to me.
[01:08:03]  It's because they're going to trap me.
[01:08:04]  It's a perfect system for never having to actually deal with these people that you've lied about for years.
[01:08:10]  So Leo is on to mostly talk, I mean, he talks about the Vatican a little bit, but it seems mostly that this is like him telling Alex that this is the fucking end times, man.
[01:08:20]  Sure, sure.
[01:08:20]  This is the end times that we've always been talking about.
[01:08:24]  We are about to approach the most dangerous part of it, because once they grab us for the mark of the beast with Melinda Gates Foundation...
[01:08:33]  So this is the beginning of the end times?
[01:08:36]  Yes.
[01:08:36]  And you can debate, it's all esoteric.
[01:08:40]  So the general public can understand it.
[01:08:42]  I understand it's coded, but you're really smart.
[01:08:44]  What is the best belief?
[01:08:45]  Are you?
[01:08:46]  By your own research.
[01:08:48]  Come on.
[01:08:48]  Because we know they know it's real about the time frame of the end times.
[01:08:55]  Or is that governed by how we respond?
[01:08:57]  It's fluid.
[01:08:59]  It's a general guide, but it's fluid.
[01:09:02]  Well, we announced together in the beginning of the year, when we did a show in early January, that this 2020 will be a year like no other, because for the Illuminati, it symbolizes something particular, the connection of these two numbers together, this yin and yang.
[01:09:19]  Let's remember that...
[01:09:20]  Doesn't the year start...
[01:09:22]  There's no year zero, Dan.
[01:09:23]  Well, whatever.
[01:09:24]  It's only 2019 or whatever.
[01:09:25]  I mean, let's leave that aside and just remember that prior to 2012, Leo Zagami was going around telling anybody who would listen that the coming of the year 2012 would bring with it the rise of the Holy Roman Empire that would have him, Leo Lion Zagami, as the head of it because he's Jesus.
[01:09:43]  And it did happen.
[01:09:45]  And he did 9-11 along with Osama Bin Laden.
[01:09:48]  Who didn't?
[01:09:48]  Right.
[01:09:49]  So, I mean, like, yeah, okay, great.
[01:09:51]  Let's listen to you about these predictions about things that are going to happen.
[01:09:55]  It seems very relevant to his credibility to ignore those things.
[01:10:00]  Exactly!
[01:10:01]  I think it's good to know that he's more humble now.
[01:10:03]  He's not saying that the end times is going to end with him being the supreme leader.
[01:10:08]  He's just saying we're going through the end times.
[01:10:10]  And then once that happens, once that happens, once he ascends, the only religion that would be allowed in his world is Matrixism, of course, because he's Neo, he's Leo.
[01:10:19]  Absolutely.
[01:10:20]  Oh, God, this fucking guy.
[01:10:22]  That's the kind of stuff that's like...
[01:10:25]  Hilarious that Alex talks to him and takes him seriously.
[01:10:28]  It's wild.
[01:10:29]  It's so funny.
[01:10:30]  I'm listening to him talk and I'm just going, I know your story, man.
[01:10:33]  How did you wind up here?
[01:10:35]  I still don't understand.
[01:10:36]  Just as an idea that Alex is talking to him, that's funny enough.
[01:10:40]  You don't even need to actually listen to what he's saying.
[01:10:43]  For sure.
[01:10:44]  But unfortunately, he does say some really funny things, like this.
[01:10:47]  So this is the great testing is now.
[01:10:49]  Cities will become smart cities.
[01:10:52]  They will be called smart.
[01:10:54]  In reality, smart is a nightmare.
[01:10:56]  There was a film from 1977 called Demon Seed in which they showed the first smart house in which this woman was locked up until she was impregnated by the artificial intelligence.
[01:11:06]  So that's what's coming in 2030.
[01:11:12]  Your house is going to impregnate you.
[01:11:14]  That's a real bummer.
[01:11:15]  That's a real bummer.
[01:11:16]  I was hoping to live my life without being impregnated by an artificially intelligent house, but you win some, you lose some.
[01:11:24]  Yep.
[01:11:25]  So this conversation is fully off the rails already once the topic of the end times comes up.
[01:11:33]  I mean, Alex, I think if you listen to this, you can't walk away with any other conclusion than he legitimately thinks he's fighting aliens.
[01:11:40]  A digital prison.
[01:11:43]  An anti-hero.
[01:11:47]  Is this a Leo Zagami track?
[01:11:50]  A fallen takeover.
[01:11:55]  An entity not of this world marooned here with one mission.
[01:12:02]  Enslave and destroy a more advanced species before it awakens to its real potential.
[01:12:08]  That's where you are.
[01:12:10]  That's where you are.
[01:12:11]  Bye.
[01:12:13]  Bye.
[01:12:15]  What?
[01:12:15]  Leo Zagami, scholar, researcher, expert on the New World Order.
[01:12:19]  Really?
[01:12:20]  They're launching their full attack.
[01:12:21]  So, I mean, like, this is the stuff that, like, the way Alex should be treated.
[01:12:26]  Yeah.
[01:12:27]  Just because he's been, like, more successful than anybody, and just because he has a studio that looks legitimate, people should not ignore the fact that he believes he's fighting a space demon.
[01:12:37]  Yeah.
[01:12:38]  That should be front and center at all times.
[01:12:41]  Yeah.
[01:12:41]  This is an apocalyptic...
[01:12:44]  Extremist religious broadcast at its core.
[01:12:47]  And we should never ignore that.
[01:12:49]  We ignore it a little bit sometimes just because it becomes burdensome if we just kept pointing it out.
[01:12:53]  But people who are doing these hits on him, I don't mean hit like a hit job, I mean like a media hit, just a story.
[01:13:01]  You know, it's fun.
[01:13:02]  Talk about him eating his neighbors.
[01:13:04]  But also, be sure you let people know he's basically an extremist.
[01:13:11]  Religious wacko.
[01:13:12]  And his guest committed 9-11.
[01:13:14]  We're not talking about that.
[01:13:16]  Leo Zagami is responsible for 9-11, and we're just going to allow that to go.
[01:13:20]  I think even more fucked up he didn't, and he said he did.
[01:13:25]  In the same way that Alex talking about murdering all these people in his past, he obviously is lying.
[01:13:30]  It's more fucked up that he wants people to think that he did when he didn't.
[01:13:33]  Same with Leo.
[01:13:34]  He said he did 9-11.
[01:13:35]  He didn't do 9-11.
[01:13:36]  No, of course not.
[01:13:37]  I gave the order.
[01:13:39]  Go fuck yourself.
[01:13:40]  I think Alex would do a great job doing just opening crawl narration.
[01:13:45]  I'm going to call that movie Marshall Lockdown.
[01:13:49]  The only thing that Alex could do that would be productive for society would have been that.
[01:13:56]  A little bit of talking dramatically over music.
[01:14:00]  Perfect.
[01:14:00]  You could have found your niche.
[01:14:02]  Dan LaFontaine.
[01:14:04]  You could have been there, man.
[01:14:05]  Well, not that good.
[01:14:06]  Not there.
[01:14:07]  So you mentioned earlier that whole idea about demons have to be welcomed in and all that?
[01:14:11]  They have to be.
[01:14:12]  Or you need to tell people what your plan is before you do it?
[01:14:16]  Absolutely.
[01:14:16]  It turns out that the globalists might be looking for a way around that rule.
[01:14:22]  That's an annoying rule.
[01:14:23]  They are pushing this reality so they can translate into this dimension everything that up until now was only possible to be invited through occult rituals.
[01:14:37]  Satan was capable of coming into our dimension only if he was invited, him and his demons and his legion, only if they were invited they could come into this dimension.
[01:14:45]  You had to do a ritual, you had to get opened up.
[01:14:48]  Yeah, totally.
[01:14:49]  The Bible, exactly, Revelation talks about portals to hell being opened, that's cyberspace.
[01:14:54]  Sure.
[01:14:55]  That is not only cyberspace, but it's also what's happening at CERN.
[01:14:58]  Do you remember what's happening at CERN?
[01:14:59]  Oh, yeah.
[01:14:59]  You got an article about the Chai comms and they have the God of Destruction there.
[01:15:04]  Man, getting rangy on these conspiracy theories now.
[01:15:06]  But yeah, so CERN is involved in demon portals.
[01:15:10]  You can't agree with somebody and then say a completely different thing as though they're the same.
[01:15:14]  Like, oh, of course it's cyberspace.
[01:15:16]  It's also CERN.
[01:15:18]  It's like, what are you fucking talking about?
[01:15:20]  Nothing.
[01:15:21]  They're talking about nothing.
[01:15:22]  So, but it's also important to recognize that, like, they're talking about this in very concrete terms.
[01:15:27]  Of course.
[01:15:27]  It's one thing to kind of poetically talk about, you know, a battle between good and evil within yourself or something.
[01:15:35]  Metaphorical, yeah.
[01:15:35]  They're talking about this as, like, the next couple years.
[01:15:39]  Sure.
[01:15:39]  The global awakening of the last few years forced them to accelerate their plan, which is why, as the Bible states, it'll be built for, like, one year.
[01:15:47]  A very slow, talks about a day, a year.
[01:15:51]  Looking at that, Leo, what does that esoteric mean?
[01:15:53]  How long do we have to deal with this once it's in place?
[01:15:57]  Well, if we study very accurately, there is a specific number of months that we still have available before we will be fronting the last phase, which will bring us inevitably to Armageddon, because there will be a confrontation between the two sides at one point.
[01:16:16]  I think you can guess who the armies are.
[01:16:33]  Well, I mean, there's the wargs, of course.
[01:16:37]  I love that these guys believe in an infinite evil devil, but they're like, see, and he can't get around this problem until 2020.
[01:17:00]  Like, he's never thought of it before.
[01:17:02]  Well, because it's a fun number.
[01:17:02]  Like, the devil is...
[01:17:04]  Oh, no, now it's 2020.
[01:17:05]  Ha-ha.
[01:17:06]  Even though there was no year zero.
[01:17:08]  So Alex is concerned about, like, all right, there's these prophecies.
[01:17:12]  Sure.
[01:17:13]  And in these end times, there's going to be some beheadings that happen.
[01:17:16]  Of course.
[01:17:16]  Saints are going to come back.
[01:17:18]  Naturally.
[01:17:18]  So, Leo, when's that going to happen?
[01:17:20]  Next week.
[01:17:21]  When does all the head shopping start, and then, like, the two prophets risen back up, Elijah and all that?
[01:17:27]  Is that going to happen from research?
[01:17:31]  What?
[01:17:32]  Let's say around 2025, we will really have this major unfolding.
[01:17:37]  You pulled that out of your ass!
[01:17:39]  Fuck you!
[01:17:40]  And so, the next four years are critical, and the next ten, of course, are the ones that will change the whole destiny of mankind.
[01:17:50]  As a species, even.
[01:17:51]  God, it'll almost be a blessing to get my head chopped off and not be around these people anymore.
[01:17:55]  God almighty.
[01:17:56]  I applaud Alex for not turning that into a Trump 2020 ad.
[01:18:00]  You know, the next four years will be critical.
[01:18:02]  That's why we need Trump!
[01:18:04]  Yeah, I appreciate that.
[01:18:05]  And I'm just getting depressed and yearning for his head to be chopped off.
[01:18:09]  It's going to be 2025, huh?
[01:18:11]  Where did you come upon that number?
[01:18:12]  Is it because I just asked you that right now and you were like, eh, 2025 works?
[01:18:16]  Yeah.
[01:18:18]  Also, I mean, he was saying...
[01:18:24]  2012 before...
[01:18:26]  Sure.
[01:18:26]  So where was 2025 in that?
[01:18:28]  He did the math wrong.
[01:18:30]  Right.
[01:18:30]  I don't care.
[01:18:31]  This guy's a fucking idiot.
[01:18:33]  13 years from 2012, 13 is a powerful number.
[01:18:36]  That's the number that Fiona Hill puts on her circle.
[01:18:40]  Sure.
[01:18:40]  The circle turns into a dream catcher, and that's where dreams come from, Dan.
[01:18:46]  Could be.
[01:18:46]  What?
[01:18:47]  I think I lost the thread on that one.
[01:18:49]  So earlier in the episode, Alex talked about how Owen needs to take over for him.
[01:18:55]  Sure.
[01:18:55]  And I might have just thought that was sort of a flippant aside, but the way this episode ends makes me think that Alex is really, really thinking about this right now.
[01:19:05]  Hey, Leo, I want you to move to Austin because they're probably about to...
[01:19:08]  Seriously, I don't want to make...
[01:19:09]  They're trying to put me in prison right now.
[01:19:11]  There's a bunch of stuff I can't talk about yet.
[01:19:12]  We need to get you here in Austin more.
[01:19:14]  We need to have you here with Owen, everybody.
[01:19:16]  You can host the Alex Jones Show.
[01:19:18]  How's that sound?
[01:19:19]  No, seriously.
[01:19:20]  Yes, please.
[01:19:20]  Any general at the end of their operations needs to have replacements.
[01:19:24]  So if you want to be next up in the dock, my friend, if you want to step into the real firestorm, we need you to move.
[01:19:30]  In fact, I'm going to say it.
[01:19:31]  You need to move here.
[01:19:32]  Leo, I'm going to give you a job.
[01:19:34]  Come move to Austin.
[01:19:34]  I want you here.
[01:19:36]  God will show us the way.
[01:19:38]  Show you the way.
[01:19:39]  Show me the way.
[01:19:40]  And I think he will protect us in this battle.
[01:19:43]  I don't see.
[01:19:43]  I just need more troops.
[01:19:45]  You know, that answer is, you can't afford me.
[01:19:47]  I think even Leo knows you're not going to get paid enough to go work at Austin for Alex.
[01:19:53]  And whatever it is that Alex is concerned about, imaginary or real, if he goes, Infowars does not survive.
[01:20:03]  This business does not work.
[01:20:05]  Without him there.
[01:20:07]  Unless Leo takes over the war room.
[01:20:09]  I will listen to the war room.
[01:20:11]  If it's just Leo Zagami ranting about how the Pope is going to kill everybody.
[01:20:16]  I'm all about it.
[01:20:17]  You haven't listened to episodes where he's on and he does that.
[01:20:20]  It's very boring.
[01:20:21]  Is it?
[01:20:22]  God damn it.
[01:20:22]  But it seems like it would have to be fun.
[01:20:24]  No, it's not.
[01:20:25]  You may imagine that it is, but it's not.
[01:20:27]  It's just...
[01:20:28]  But we have this here.
[01:20:30]  Alex is in this real...
[01:20:32]  I mean, it's escalating on two fronts.
[01:20:35]  There's the escalation that's coming surrounding him wanting literal war with China, which is disturbing and very inappropriate.
[01:20:45]  And on the other hand, my time is pretty much over, is escalating as well.
[01:20:50]  Like, from the, you know, we don't have much time left, the enemy's already won, we've lost this round, all that kind of talk, to much more concrete.
[01:21:00]  I need my successors.
[01:21:02]  Owen, you're going to take over.
[01:21:04]  Leo, move to Austin and do my show.
[01:21:08]  It's taking it from the abstract to the more concrete.
[01:21:11]  And that, to me, is a progression.
[01:21:13]  I think it's exactly what you'd expect to see, but I would have expected him to be a little more private about these things.
[01:21:20]  And certainly less desperate sounding talking to Leo.
[01:21:24]  That is a good point that it's gone from just being like, I'm going to, my time here is going to end to concrete plans of like, when my time ends, Owen is going to take over for me.
[01:21:35]  When things are over, I want Leo here to, nobody really wants Leo there.
[01:21:40]  No.
[01:21:41]  No, absolutely not.
[01:21:42]  And Leo doesn't want to be there.
[01:21:43]  Leo does not want to live in Austin.
[01:21:44]  No, that's ridiculous.
[01:21:46]  There are very few discotheques that he enjoys there.
[01:21:48]  That's true.
[01:21:48]  That's true.
[01:21:50]  So, yeah, I mean, we come to the end of this episode and, you know, I don't know.
[01:21:54]  I don't know what we got.
[01:21:55]  But my mood and my tone is maybe a little bit more down than it needs to be.
[01:22:01]  But I think a lot of that is just because, like, it's tough.
[01:22:04]  It's tough to watch people just sort of fall into the traps that Alex sets.
[01:22:10]  And it bums me out.
[01:22:11]  And at the same time, it bums me out that it bums me out.
[01:22:14]  Because...
[01:22:14]  I keep trying to make this point because I think it's important.
[01:22:17]  I don't begrudge anyone for doing what they're doing.
[01:22:20]  I think it's bad.
[01:22:21]  I think it's wrong tactically.
[01:22:24]  I have no interest in yelling at anybody who works for Slate or Salon or those places that posted articles.
[01:22:34]  It just bums me out that there's not a recognition that It only helps him.
[01:22:44]  If you have a platform that you suspect is larger than Infowars, just don't do it.

=== Negative Attention Immune (03:50) ===

[01:22:52]  If you suspect it.
[01:22:54]  You have no way of knowing for sure, but if you suspect that your publication has more followers than him, then don't do it.
[01:23:01]  Because the only thing you do is you run the risk of a wider number of people becoming curious.
[01:23:09]  Going to his site, seeing stuff where he has more control over the, I was doing a Jonathan Swift style satire piece.
[01:23:18]  And, you know, it's not going to be everybody who ends up falling for it, but you run the risk of a certain percentage of them falling for it.
[01:23:27]  And that's not good.
[01:23:29]  You should...
[01:23:31]  Block off those paths as opposed to facilitate them.
[01:23:34]  Yeah, it doesn't give me hope for the second wave of COVID.
[01:23:39]  We deplatformed Alex a while back, and look, his numbers have gone way, way down.
[01:23:45]  And so then the first opportunity, it's like, let's give him as wide a platform as we possibly can!
[01:23:50]  Like, guys, we won!
[01:23:52]  We were winning!
[01:23:53]  He was going away!
[01:23:55]  I don't think that people look at it as helping him.
[01:23:58]  That's the crucial disconnect that people have, is they think that negative attention is bad for him.
[01:24:05]  And they don't recognize that he plays a different game than maybe normal people do.
[01:24:11]  Because most people, if you...
[01:24:13]  Have shame!
[01:24:13]  Right!
[01:24:14]  Most people, if you were to have like a video of you yelling about how you're going to eat your neighbors, embarrassingly, you know, someone covering it would be a thing where I got to get a statement of apology together.
[01:24:27]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:24:27]  I didn't mean to say that.
[01:24:28]  I need to clarify or whatever.
[01:24:30]  But for someone like Alex, it's like, how do we lean in?
[01:24:32]  Yeah.
[01:24:33]  How do we get more attention out of this?
[01:24:34]  How do we get more negative attention?
[01:24:36]  Yeah.
[01:24:37]  And so it's just a strategic change just needs to be made.
[01:24:41]  I would love to say that I know exactly what that is, but I don't really.
[01:24:46]  I think that calling out things for what they are in terms of like, look at this desperate loser.
[01:24:53]  I think that might help, but it also might not.
[01:24:56]  I don't know.
[01:24:56]  There might actually be no solution.
[01:24:58]  And if that's the case, whatever.
[01:25:00]  I don't know.
[01:25:01]  I guess the only thing I can think of is that he doesn't talk about us.
[01:25:05]  Nope.
[01:25:07]  There's something about what we do that is immune from his feeding off of negative attention.
[01:25:13]  It seems that way.
[01:25:15]  But maybe it's just, again, that could just be a self-serving bullshit line, you know?
[01:25:20]  Maybe we just are completely off the radar.
[01:25:25]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:25:25]  It's entirely possible.
[01:25:26]  It seems unlikely to me, but it's possible.
[01:25:29]  But that's the thing.
[01:25:31]  And again, just the theory.
[01:25:34]  I think that if you're going to cover Alex, you need to find ways to make it so anybody who has attention to the thing that you're covering, it's negative for Alex.
[01:25:46]  You have to almost put within what you're doing a fail-safe.
[01:25:53]  And that's why I think it's okay for us to laugh and make fun of.
[01:26:00]  Alex's eating people stuff.
[01:26:02]  Right.
[01:26:03]  You know, because anybody who could come to us, I don't think would ever be like, oh, I gotta check this guy out.
[01:26:10]  Yeah, no, no chance.
[01:26:11]  I think that there is a safety to it, whereas an article about him might not be.
[01:26:18]  I don't know.
[01:26:19]  He just spent an hour explaining how he might be a terrorist, and then they played me this he eats butts thing, and I'm like, maybe they're lying about him, and maybe he just loves eating butts.

=== Rate And Review Please (00:51) ===

[01:26:28]  I don't know.
[01:26:29]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:26:30]  I don't think there's a good answer.
[01:26:32]  I don't know.
[01:26:34]  But anyway, we'll be back, Jordan.
[01:26:36]  But until then, we have a website.
[01:26:37]  We do have a website.
[01:26:38]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[01:26:39]  You're right.
[01:26:39]  We are also on Twitter.
[01:26:42]  We are on Twitter.
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[01:26:55]  Yep.
[01:26:55]  We'll be back.
[01:26:57]  No year of the seltzer review this time.
[01:26:59]  I kind of forgot.
[01:27:00]  But we'll be back.
[01:27:01]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[01:27:03]  I'm Leo.
[01:27:04]  I'm DZX.
[01:27:04]  Clark, I am the juiciest ice cube.
[01:27:06]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[01:27:08]  Thanks for holding.
[01:27:10]  Hello, Alex.
[01:27:11]  I'm a first-time caller.
[01:27:12]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:27:13]  I love your work.