Knowledge Fight - #410: March 19-20, 2020
Aired: 2020-03-23
Duration: 02:28:29


=== Pop Corners Popularity (07:12) ===

[00:00:16]  Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
[00:00:21]  I have great respect for knowledge fight.
[00:00:24]  Knowledge fight?
[00:00:25]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
[00:00:27]  Shang, we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:30]  Dan and Jordan.
[00:00:31]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:32]  Riddler, riddler, rattler.
[00:00:34]  I need money money.
[00:00:39]  Andy and Pansy.
[00:00:40]  Andy and Pandy.
[00:00:42]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:43]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:45]  Andy.
[00:00:46]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:47]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:48]  You're on the airplane for holding.
[00:00:49]  Hello, Alex.
[00:00:50]  I'm a fifth pin colour.
[00:00:53]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:55]  Knowledgefight.com.
[00:00:58]  I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody.
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:00]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:01]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink knowledge and beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
[00:01:06]  Indeed, we are, Dan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:07]  Dan.
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Quick question.
[00:01:09]  What's up?
[00:01:10]  Everybody is now, of course, working from home.
[00:01:14]  You and I both have been working from home for a long time now.
[00:01:17]  Do you have any tips for people?
[00:01:19]  I do it poorly.
[00:01:20]  Okay.
[00:01:20]  Nope, I got no tips.
[00:01:23]  I have absolutely no tips, but I do have a actually, fuck this question because I really can't be all that helpful.
[00:01:28]  I don't do work from home well.
[00:01:30]  I'm very consumed with work.
[00:01:31]  You've literally worked from home for three years now.
[00:01:34]  No, two years.
[00:01:34]  Two years.
[00:01:35]  First year or so of the show, I was employed.
[00:01:38]  But no, I don't really have any tips other than like, I think you should listen to someone else.
[00:01:42]  I think other people have better advice.
[00:01:44]  All right, all right.
[00:01:44]  Okay.
[00:01:45]  But I have a question for you.
[00:01:46]  Sure.
[00:01:47]  What's that?
[00:01:48]  My question for you.
[00:01:49]  Yes, sir.
[00:01:50]  Is Jordan, what in this time has given you some bright spots?
[00:01:55]  What out there is like, what's a nice, you know, solid ray of sunshine in the period?
[00:02:01]  I'd like to, every episode, you and I give.
[00:02:04]  Do you give a little bit of like a positive?
[00:02:07]  Hey, this is something that's given me a little smile.
[00:02:10]  Let's see.
[00:02:11]  I mean, it's hard.
[00:02:13]  I can go first.
[00:02:14]  Go for it.
[00:02:14]  Yeah, go for it.
[00:02:15]  Okay.
[00:02:16]  You've been thinking about this.
[00:02:18]  Not a ton, but something I've really given a shout out to is this snack called Pop Corners.
[00:02:24]  It's a popcorn chip.
[00:02:26]  Okay.
[00:02:27]  And their jalapeno cheddar flavor is perhaps one of the best things I've ever had in my life.
[00:02:33]  I bought like three bags.
[00:02:35]  If I'm hoarding anything, it's maybe the jalapeno cheddar pop corners.
[00:02:39]  That's okay.
[00:02:40]  All right.
[00:02:40]  Because I'm desperately afraid of running out of them.
[00:02:42]  But to be fair, even in a non-crisis, I probably would be hoarding them.
[00:02:47]  Yeah, anyway.
[00:02:48]  If we're in the end times, you're going to need some popcorn.
[00:02:51]  But even if we're not, you still want bags.
[00:02:53]  Delicious.
[00:02:53]  Delicious.
[00:02:54]  I can't risk the store running out of pop corners.
[00:02:57]  And they will.
[00:02:58]  They will.
[00:02:58]  You know they will.
[00:03:00]  People are sealing those right now.
[00:03:02]  I usually don't like pop corn-based chips, but these ones.
[00:03:06]  Okay.
[00:03:06]  Good.
[00:03:07]  All right.
[00:03:07]  I like it.
[00:03:08]  All right.
[00:03:09]  Let's see.
[00:03:10]  Mine, Steven Universe Future.
[00:03:13]  Okay.
[00:03:13]  This is the last 10 episodes of Steven Universe, which is an incredible show about a young boy who is also a crystal gem and so on and so forth.
[00:03:26]  It's really heartfelt.
[00:03:27]  And right now it is dealing with a narrative that is purely based on like recovery from PTSD and finding yourself and doing all of these different things and how he's dealing with it.
[00:03:40]  And it's great.
[00:03:41]  It's really, really good for right now, especially.
[00:03:44]  It's a really comforting thing.
[00:03:45]  Watch the entire series.
[00:03:46]  That's what I would recommend.
[00:03:47]  Great.
[00:03:48]  Grab yourself a bag of pop corners.
[00:03:50]  Absolutely.
[00:03:50]  Watch some Steven Universe.
[00:03:52]  You got it.
[00:03:53]  Golden.
[00:03:53]  Absolutely.
[00:03:54]  So, Jordan, this podcast, we're going to try and give a little bit of a ray of sunshine.
[00:03:58]  I know a lot about Alex Jones.
[00:03:59]  And I like to do the former, and I don't know anything about the latter.
[00:04:03]  So today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
[00:04:05]  We're looking at the end of last week, March 19th and 20th, 2020.
[00:04:09]  I'm Dan.
[00:04:10]  This is 2020.
[00:04:10]  Damn it.
[00:04:12]  And, you know, hey, you know, some of it's going to be shitty.
[00:04:15]  It is what it is.
[00:04:16]  Some of it's going to be stupid.
[00:04:17]  All right.
[00:04:18]  I questioned even the point of doing our show as normal for a large stretch of the since our last episode.
[00:04:25]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:26]  The idea of in these circumstances, who would want to be listening to Alex Jones?
[00:04:30]  And the answer was not me.
[00:04:33]  And I can't imagine most of the audience wanting to listen to him either.
[00:04:36]  It's a disaster.
[00:04:38]  Right.
[00:04:39]  I've gotten messages a bunch in the past from people who have said things like, I don't know how you do it.
[00:04:45]  I don't know how you listen to him all the time.
[00:04:47]  And usually it's not that impactful for me.
[00:04:50]  Like, it's not that difficult to listen to him.
[00:04:52]  But I'm finding in these circumstances.
[00:04:54]  It's rough.
[00:04:55]  It's not ideal.
[00:04:56]  Rough going.
[00:04:56]  Yes.
[00:04:57]  So I will take all those old sympathies that people sent me.
[00:05:01]  I'll apply them now.
[00:05:03]  And I appreciate everyone's kind thoughts because this shit sucks.
[00:05:09]  Well, we all thank you, Dan.
[00:05:11]  Yeah.
[00:05:12]  If it weren't for you, we wouldn't be able to congregate here as we so have.
[00:05:16]  And to turn around and thank everybody else.
[00:05:19]  Absolutely.
[00:05:20]  Particularly some people who have signed up and are supporting the show.
[00:05:22]  Perfect.
[00:05:22]  So, first, Elliot, thank you so much.
[00:05:24]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:25]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:26]  Thank you, Elliot.
[00:05:27]  Next, Jacob, thank you so much.
[00:05:29]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:30]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:31]  Thank you, Jacob.
[00:05:32]  Thank you, Jacob.
[00:05:33]  Next, Sweetie, honey.
[00:05:34]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:35]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:36]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:38]  Thank you, sweetie, honey.
[00:05:39]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:40]  Next, James.
[00:05:41]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:42]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:43]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:44]  Thank you, James.
[00:05:44]  Thank you, James.
[00:05:45]  Next, Jason, thank you so much.
[00:05:46]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:48]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:49]  Thanks, Jason.
[00:05:50]  Next, Dave.
[00:05:51]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:51]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:53]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:54]  Thank you very much, Dave.
[00:05:55]  Thank you, Dave.
[00:05:56]  Next, DM Thompson360.
[00:05:57]  Like Anderson Cooper 360, but not quite.
[00:06:00]  DM Thompson.
[00:06:01]  Thank you so much.
[00:06:01]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:06:02]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:03]  Thanks, DM Thompson360.
[00:06:05]  And then finally, this is 360.
[00:06:08]  Next, I'd like to say thank you to someone who donated on an elevated level.
[00:06:12]  Appreciate that very much.
[00:06:13]  So, Caleb, thank you so much.
[00:06:14]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:06:15]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:06:16]  Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
[00:06:18]  Have yourself a burden.
[00:06:19]  How's your 401k doing, bro?
[00:06:21]  We got to go full-tilt buggy on this, Watson, all right?
[00:06:23]  Let's just get down to business.
[00:06:25]  We ain't making that money off that heroin.
[00:06:27]  Why are you pimps so good?
[00:06:29]  My neck is freakishly large.
[00:06:30]  I declare infall war on you.
[00:06:33]  Thanks so much, Caleb.
[00:06:34]  Yes, thank you very much, Caleb.
[00:06:36]  If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show.
[00:06:37]  I'd like to support these gents too.
[00:06:39]  You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
[00:06:42]  We would appreciate it.
[00:06:43]  That'd be lovely.
[00:06:43]  So, Jordan, I want to give a little bit of a preamble to this episode.
[00:06:50]  I believe that as this public health crisis continues and things get worse and a little bit more frightening and uncertain, I want to take a moment to address something that I've been wrestling with a little bit.
[00:07:00]  It's a thought that's kind of natural to come up in these sorts of circumstances, and that is, was Alex Jones right?
[00:07:09]  It can be difficult because I think it's very important to recognize in situations like this that even when some of Alex's vague predictions come true, he's still wrong.

=== Alex's Alarmist Conspiracy (14:14) ===

[00:07:18]  There's an important dynamic to consider, and that is that Alex is an alarmist by nature.
[00:07:23]  He has to elicit very intense emotions of fear and anxiety from his audience in order to keep them in the fold.
[00:07:29]  So every world event is presented with an amplified level of intrigue, usually by painting everything as a globalist plot against him or his friends.
[00:07:38]  In this case, his alarmism feels warranted, you know, because what we see happening.
[00:07:42]  Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
[00:07:44]  Obviously, his show went way past the line in terms of being healthy alarmism, and it drifted deeply into Chicken Little the Sky Is Falling territory, which is the first major strike that I would have against him.
[00:07:56]  Alex's alarmism was also never pointed in any productive direction.
[00:08:01]  For instance, when he would talk about the low number of tests being done in the United States, his solution wasn't to push for increased testing.
[00:08:08]  He instead decided to yell about how he imagined the lack of testing was a globalist plot to embarrass Trump, and that's actually good because Trump needs to keep the infection numbers artificially low to avoid a panic which would hurt him politically.
[00:08:20]  And it worked out perfectly.
[00:08:22]  Great.
[00:08:23]  The point that the government was making, the point they were making of failing in terms of testing is a fair one.
[00:08:29]  But the conclusion that Alex arrives to because of that is ludicrous.
[00:08:34]  There were various things that he said that you can't really dispute have come to pass, but it's important to recognize what sorts of things those are.
[00:08:42]  There are two major categories of, let's call them predictions, that appear to have come true.
[00:08:47]  The first is completely obvious byproducts of things getting worse with the virus.
[00:08:53]  In this category, you have predictions like the stock market is going to go down.
[00:08:57]  By the point this was a main talking point for Alex, the city of Wuhan was already under a lockdown.
[00:09:02]  So even if things didn't spread much past that point, it's a pretty safe bet that there would be some economic implications.
[00:09:09]  This is not the sort of prediction that you could really give someone a ton of credit for, and it's also important to recognize how this prediction was used.
[00:09:17]  This was never presented as Alex giving straight financial market predictions.
[00:09:21]  It was always delivered in the context of saying that hurting the market to embarrass Trump was the ultimate goal, which is why the globalists released the virus to begin with.
[00:09:30]  This is important to remember that the stock markets taking a hit was not a consequence of events happening in the real world.
[00:09:37]  It was the secret motivation behind it all, which Alex has in no way proven beyond just saying it.
[00:09:43]  Right, right, right.
[00:09:44]  Further, the idea that the globalists released the virus to try to attack the stock market to embarrass Trump is used to justify Trump's involvement in the delayed and bad response to the outbreak.
[00:09:54]  Trump didn't put out adequate numbers of tests because he knew that the virus was just the globalists trying to tank the economy, and he knew that if the real numbers were out there, the public would panic and the market would fall.
[00:10:04]  Let's remember, this is the good guy in Alex's story.
[00:10:10]  The not all that impressive prediction that the market would be affected by an outbreak is ultimately repackaged into an imaginary motivation for the outbreak itself and then used to justify Trump's negligence in his response to it.
[00:10:23]  The other type of prediction that Alex is kind of right about is things that he predicted, which are actually the result of a negligent response.
[00:10:32]  One of the big early ones in this category is how Alex said that there would be an outbreak around Seattle, which did turn out to be correct.
[00:10:38]  This was a pessimistic prediction, but it wasn't an outlandish one given that there's already a confirmed case in the area.
[00:10:45]  If you're an alarmist, you will take that case and you will build on it, which is what Alex did.
[00:10:50]  It's important to recognize that Alex's behavior in this crisis isn't really all that out of the normal for him.
[00:10:55]  Back in 2014, he was saying that Obama was trying to bring Ebola into the country, but you forget about that hysteria because the situation was handled with appropriate intensity.
[00:11:04]  There was international cooperation, and Obama took care of that shit, along with everybody else who was involved.
[00:11:11]  There are hundreds of examples like this, even outside the medical sphere.
[00:11:15]  Every time Alex yells at his audience after a shooting about all the guns being taken, all the times he would prophesy a total collapse of the economy and a summer of rage back when he was primarily a gold pitch man, or the many, many times Alex has said that the globalists are going to try to kill Trump within the next week.
[00:11:32]  Alex's business model largely relies on being wrong all the time, but insisting the audience forget about all those incorrect predictions and narratives and only focus on the stuff he was close to right about.
[00:11:42]  As the coronavirus situation gets worse, he's able to play the game where he can say that he was right and everyone called him wrong.
[00:11:48]  But it's important to recognize that even if he hits some of the points on this, he's still a liar and a fraud.
[00:11:55]  Yeah.
[00:11:56]  It's also crucial not to lose sight of the main elements of his conspiracy.
[00:12:00]  He believes that the Gates Foundation already has a treatment or vaccine for this, which is incorrect.
[00:12:05]  He's just lying about a group that the Gates have given some money to, the Purebright Institute, that has a patent for a completely unrelated coronavirus related to a vaccine for chickens.
[00:12:16]  He's asserted as fact that the virus is man-made, is tons of different viruses all lumped together, and has, quote, the HIV delivery system.
[00:12:24]  All of this is from a non-peer-reviewed study that was self-retracted by its authors after the methodology and conclusions began getting some review from their scientific peers, who found their work to be deeply flawed.
[00:12:35]  Alex still believes every exaggeration he's made about that study to be founded, proven, and true.
[00:12:40]  He believes without any evidence that the study was retracted because the authors were pressured by the globalists.
[00:12:46]  Alex has claimed that Lancet said the virus had a 15% mortality rate, which is not true.
[00:12:51]  The study only looked at a handful of patients who already had developed severe symptoms like pneumonia, and it's not something you can extrapolate to the general population.
[00:12:59]  Even Alex has explained that on air, indicating that he understands what the study was about.
[00:13:04]  But he's not stopped from making the claim that Lancet said there was a 15% mortality rate.
[00:13:09]  That is him lying.
[00:13:10]  He believed and asserted as fact that the virus was stolen from a lab in Winnipeg, then sent to China.
[00:13:15]  This is not true.
[00:13:17]  So not true, in fact, that Alex later decided it was disinformation, since his dumb-dumb expert, Francis Boyle, came up with a better narrative.
[00:13:24]  That narrative was that the virus was created in a lab at UNC Chapel Hill.
[00:13:29]  This is not true.
[00:13:30]  This narrative was wholly based on the term gain of function appearing in a study from UNC in 2015, as well as a recent study about the novel coronavirus.
[00:13:40]  The 2015 study had to do with a researcher giving a coronavirus a gain of function related to ACE2 cleavage, whereas the recent study was about the current virus.
[00:13:49]  It was noting that the virus appeared to have a naturally occurring gain of function related to furin cleavage.
[00:13:54]  These are not the same thing at all, but a non-scientist had found the word gain of function in both studies, and that constitutes a closed case on Alex's show.
[00:14:03]  Alex has asserted as fact, based on that study from 2015, that Obama sold the virus to China.
[00:14:09]  This is not true.
[00:14:10]  This is just a lie based on the fact that there was some Chinese funding that went into the study, which does not prove the sale of a virus.
[00:14:16]  And it can also be explained very easily.
[00:14:19]  Alex has asserted as fact, based on the headline that he found about that 2015 UNC study, that there was a big public debate about Obama selling the virus to China.
[00:14:29]  This was an article on the website The Scientist with the headline, quote, lab-made coronavirus triggers debate.
[00:14:35]  Alex has just decided that the debate, the headline's referring to, is whether or not Obama should have sold it to China, which is a complete fabrication.
[00:14:42]  He's just making that up.
[00:14:43]  It's a lie.
[00:14:44]  It's a very short article, and if you read it, it's clear that the debate is about whether gain-of-function studies themselves are ethical.
[00:14:50]  Alex has asserted as fact and then walked back and then re-embraced the idea that the coronavirus is a race-specific bioweapon targeting Asian military-aged men, possibly the deep state attacking China for fentanyl.
[00:15:03]  Yeah.
[00:15:03]  He has no reason to believe this at all.
[00:15:05]  It's completely made up.
[00:15:06]  Yes, one theory he floated is that Trump is the reason this is happening in retaliation.
[00:15:13]  That was a short-lived theory.
[00:15:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was there.
[00:15:16]  There are plenty more examples, but these are the very foundational lies and misinterpretations Alex has used to build up his central conspiracy.
[00:15:24]  This isn't saying anything about the shit he's allowed his guests to do.
[00:15:28]  He let Steve Pieczenik claim that he was the first person in the United States to get the virus and they cured himself with antibiotics, even though antibiotics don't treat viruses.
[00:15:36]  He let Mike Adams lie about how mosquitoes transmit disease.
[00:15:41]  He's supported callers making claims ranging from the virus is meant to kill off everyone on Social Security to don't pop air bubbles because the air in there is from China could be infected.
[00:15:49]  That one's true, though.
[00:15:50]  In high anxiety times, the work of alarmists and propagandists becomes more appealing because we're all confused and probably scared.
[00:15:59]  If you aren't paying close attention, the finer details of what Alex is doing fade into the background, and you just kind of remember him saying that the market was going to go down and that martial law was going to come in.
[00:16:09]  Though there isn't really martial law at this point when we're recording, there are cities and states putting in place various quarantine measures, and it's hard not to feel like that's the same thing.
[00:16:17]  It's a little martial law-y.
[00:16:19]  It's martial law-ish.
[00:16:20]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:22]  It's an S.
[00:16:22]  It's in the neighborhood.
[00:16:24]  It's in the martial ballpark.
[00:16:25]  Yeah.
[00:16:26]  The issue, though, is that these things that Alex is right about were relatively avoidable consequences of decisions the president he supports made or failed to make.
[00:16:35]  If Obama had handled the Ebola outbreak in 2014, the way Trump has handled this outbreak, Alex probably would have looked a lot closer to right back then, too.
[00:16:44]  Yeah.
[00:16:45]  Anyway, my point is that whatever superficial things Alex has been kind of correct about are way, way overshadowed by the things he's been completely and glaringly wrong about, which happened to be the cornerstones of his conspiracy.
[00:16:58]  Anyway, I'm sorry about this big rant to begin the episode, but I really have this feeling of that being a question in my head.
[00:17:08]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:17:09]  And I want to stomp that question out.
[00:17:12]  Because he's not.
[00:17:13]  No, no, no, absolutely not.
[00:17:15]  And this is not like, even if he's glomming on to some shit, this is something that people, epidemiologists have been predicting an outbreak like this for 20 years.
[00:17:25]  But that can be part of the conspiracy theory.
[00:17:27]  Yeah, of course, of course.
[00:17:28]  But the point is not that he was right by any stretch.
[00:17:32]  As long as you're paying attention to what professional experts are saying and then using that as kind of a basis for prediction, you'll probably be right often enough.
[00:17:41]  And then if you're a conspiracy theorist, you just say it's part of the conspiracy.
[00:17:44]  But Alex predict an outbreak.
[00:17:47]  No, of course.
[00:17:48]  Predicted natural consequences, such as the stock market going down and then packaging it as the reason the virus is being released to begin with.
[00:17:58]  It's easy to, I don't know, I would want to call it missing the forest for the trees and think like, oh, wait, he was kind of right.
[00:18:07]  Yeah.
[00:18:07]  He's not.
[00:18:08]  Well, and it's also a little bit like there's an arsonist in Chicago and he's like, don't worry about the arsonist.
[00:18:13]  And it starts burning down buildings.
[00:18:15]  He's like, okay, well, eventually it's going to burn down buildings, but you don't need to worry about it.
[00:18:19]  And then the great Chicago fire happens and he's like, there's going to be economic consequences for this.
[00:18:23]  And you're like, yeah, dude, you helped get us here.
[00:18:26]  So we're going to get to today's episode.
[00:18:28]  We're going to start on the 19th.
[00:18:30]  But before we do, here's not a context drop from today's show.
[00:18:32]  By the way, you go to Cuba today, and the most beautiful women you can imagine will have sex with you for a $2 little tube of wormer.
[00:18:41]  How do you know that?
[00:18:42]  Ah, was message boards?
[00:18:49]  So we start on the 19th, and it's actually kind of fitting because Alex is going through his, you know, he really feels like he's proven that the Democrats and the left, they're all cheering for the economy to collapse because they want to hurt Trump.
[00:19:05]  We got it.
[00:19:06]  Which is sort of the justification for why he believes that the virus was released in order to destroy the economy because the Democrats were wanting that because they want to hurt Trump.
[00:19:14]  Sure.
[00:19:14]  Sure.
[00:19:15]  And, dude, it's so obvious, and this is going to be a running theme throughout this episode.
[00:19:19]  It's all just Bill Maher.
[00:19:21]  We're going to get into the public plan by the globalist.
[00:19:25]  You've seen the Democrats, you've seen MSNBC, CNN, you've seen Bill Maher.
[00:19:30]  You've seen them celebrate and say, we want a recession or depression to punish Trump voters and kill the U.S. economy.
[00:19:39]  So we submit and it's worth it to take the hit.
[00:19:44]  Bill Maher just said that two weeks ago again.
[00:19:46]  And now you see our economy targeted.
[00:19:50]  It's all Bill Maher.
[00:19:51]  Bill Maher.
[00:19:51]  Alex is just mad at Bill Maher and pretending that everybody's saying exactly the same things as Bill Maher.
[00:19:57]  It's ludicrous.
[00:19:58]  That's not fair.
[00:19:59]  No.
[00:19:59]  That's not fair.
[00:20:00]  And when you recognize that that's kind of the foundation for his belief or his justification for claiming that the Democrats wanted to destroy the economy to attack Trump, which is why they'd released the virus, it's like, stop watching Bill Maher.
[00:20:14]  Stop.
[00:20:15]  You don't have to watch it.
[00:20:16]  Or just do a podcast about Bill Maher.
[00:20:19]  We do one about you.
[00:20:22]  Just do that, you asshole.
[00:20:25]  Stop pretending that it's something bigger than it is.
[00:20:28]  That's such, though, like a perfect encapsulation of why anybody who's arguing, like, oh, Bernie, people aren't ready to vote for a socialist.
[00:20:37]  It does not matter.
[00:20:38]  Does not matter.
[00:20:40]  Biden will be called a socialist ad nauseum.
[00:20:43]  Undoubtedly.
[00:20:44]  In the same way that we are called people who want the economy to collapse because Bill Maher said it.
[00:20:50]  It does not matter.
[00:20:51]  But it's also because there's a little bit of code with socialists for people like Alex.
[00:20:54]  And it's just anybody who supports social welfare programs.
[00:20:57]  Right, right.
[00:20:58]  Anybody who has any kind of idea that the state should do things basically is a socialist to them.
[00:21:03]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:21:03]  And so when you, you know, you have them calling like Obama a socialist, they'll call John Kerry a socialist.
[00:21:09]  Dictator, John Kerry.
[00:21:10]  Yeah, they'll do that.
[00:21:12]  And it's like, that doesn't make sense.

=== 18 Months Of Lockdown? (15:50) ===

[00:21:13]  But in their very anti-communist Cold War holdover mentality, that is socialism.
[00:21:21]  Absolutely.
[00:21:22]  And so, yeah, I guess, you know, that's the issue.
[00:21:26]  Whoever you put up, it doesn't matter.
[00:21:27]  That attack is going to come.
[00:21:28]  Oh, yeah.
[00:21:29]  So Alex has figured out that this is going to be not a short-lived situation in America.
[00:21:37]  It's just now dawning on him, huh?
[00:21:38]  Yep.
[00:21:38]  Let me lay a few things out here first.
[00:21:42]  Oops.
[00:21:44]  The real number that emerged about a week ago is now confirmed.
[00:21:47]  The government's looking at 18 months.
[00:21:51]  The EU first announced this last week: 18 months of lockdown.
[00:21:55]  So, see, first they tell you, oh, it's just two weeks.
[00:21:59]  It's also always two weeks, and then QAnon's going to bring down the deep state.
[00:22:03]  Nice.
[00:22:04]  Two weeks, and we'll see all the indictments happen.
[00:22:07]  That's been happening for what, three years.
[00:22:08]  Well, same thing.
[00:22:09]  Oh, two weeks, you'll be allowed out of your houses.
[00:22:12]  But notice every couple days, they announce more restrictions, more controls, until they get the depression they're looking for.
[00:22:21]  Hold on to that thought that Alex doesn't like QAnon for later.
[00:22:25]  Okay.
[00:22:25]  Keep that in your back pocket.
[00:22:26]  All right, right.
[00:22:27]  So, admittedly, I have no idea how long anything is going to actually last.
[00:22:31]  I have no predictive abilities on that front.
[00:22:33]  Even experts trying to predict that have difficulty because a whole lot of outcome is based on individual action.
[00:22:40]  And if people don't take this seriously, the timeframe for things to get back to what you might call normal is going to extend.
[00:22:45]  And there's just almost no way.
[00:22:47]  You can like, you'll see these people who have models and they always have very different outcomes depending on different actions that are taken.
[00:22:55]  And so, yeah, and even those are, you know, who knows?
[00:22:59]  The 18-month number that Alex is talking about is specifically related to the UK.
[00:23:03]  Boris Johnson had previously announced that their strategy was going to be trying to develop a herd immunity to the virus by people just going on living their lives, which epidemiologists roundly said was a very bad idea.
[00:23:15]  I really think that we shouldn't elect lunatic reality TV show stars/slash magazine commentators to our highest offices.
[00:23:26]  I think it's a bad idea.
[00:23:28]  It's not productive.
[00:23:29]  I don't think it's a good idea, Dan.
[00:23:30]  According to an article in Time, modeling of that strategy of the herd immunity strategy found that it would quote exceed healthcare systems' maximum capacities many times over.
[00:23:39]  So, I thought that's what he was talking about because there was an article about Boris Johnson having to be like, Wow, this is going to take a long time.
[00:23:47]  But it's still not 18 months in lockdown.
[00:23:50]  This wave may last that extent of time.
[00:23:55]  So I thought that's what it was, but that's not where the 18-month number comes from.
[00:23:59]  That's the estimated time it will take to develop and get approval for a vaccine, at which point all the restrictions for social distancing and similar measures would not be necessary.
[00:24:09]  This is not a statement that anyone is going to be in lockdown for 18 months.
[00:24:12]  It's merely a reflection that we will need to have some sort of containment considerations probably until there's a vaccine.
[00:24:18]  And that's the estimated timeframe for that.
[00:24:20]  12 to 18 months, yeah.
[00:24:22]  It's also inaccurate to say that these things will only last a few weeks.
[00:24:25]  That's a slight misunderstanding of statements from health officials about the lengths of things like stay-at-home rules, like we have here in Illinois, which lasts until April 7th.
[00:24:35]  There is a possibility that it'll extend after that, maybe, probably.
[00:24:39]  But that's the period where things can be reassessed and experts will know a little bit more at that point.
[00:24:44]  So when people are saying it'll last two weeks, they're not saying that, hey, we're all good in two weeks.
[00:24:49]  Right, right.
[00:24:49]  It means that's the period and then we'll reassess and know more from that point.
[00:24:53]  It's them all trying to be like, can we please hit pause on this?
[00:24:57]  We're going to try and test everybody and get a full idea of where exactly we are and then we can move forward instead of being like, I guess we're just going to go for it.
[00:25:06]  Let's see what happens.
[00:25:07]  Yeah, write it out.
[00:25:08]  Herd immunity, why not?
[00:25:10]  I wrote in a newspaper for a bit.
[00:25:12]  It's probably pessimistic to assume that social distancing measures will last 18 months, but it's also probably naive to assume it'll only last two weeks.
[00:25:20]  It's probably a good idea to expect worse than the best case scenario, but if people take this seriously and we get lucky on the medical side of things, the worst case scenario doesn't have to come to pass either.
[00:25:30]  The other thing that this is based on is a post on Michael Snyder's Economic Collapse blog, which Alex has reposted on Infowars, titled, quote, the U.S. government is preparing for an 18-month pandemic and critical shortages.
[00:25:43]  The subheadline is, quote, are you prepared for the nationwide shutdown that's happening now to last 18 months?
[00:25:49]  No.
[00:25:51]  This blog post is based on a 103-page health and human services document that the New York Times released titled U.S. Government COVID-19 Response Plan.
[00:26:00]  The only place in this document that 18 months comes up is in the section that lists the assumptions that this plan was based on.
[00:26:07]  And number two is, quote, a pandemic will last 18 months or longer and could include multiple waves of illness.
[00:26:13]  It would be important to also point out that assumption number three is, quote, the spread and severity of COVID-19 will be difficult to forecast and characterize.
[00:26:21]  So that's even kind of a caveat to assumption number two.
[00:26:24]  This is a document that's primarily about government agency responsibility for various considerations.
[00:26:30]  It's an organizational document more than anything else.
[00:26:33]  And I think it would be a real stretch to assume that you can take this document to prove that even the government is planning for an 18-month lockdown.
[00:26:40]  The thing that's important to remember is that this 18-month number is an assumption of how long the pandemic may have an effect on the country that requires a plan.
[00:26:48]  But that doesn't mean the same thing as there's going to be a year and a half lockdown.
[00:26:52]  One key point is that this is a full plan, and it involves a stage after the active pandemic in its timeline.
[00:26:59]  The phase where we'd be returning to what they call a, quote, pre-epidemic posture.
[00:27:03]  That's part of the 18-month lifespan of the plan, of whatever they're assuming.
[00:27:10]  This doesn't say that there will be an 18-month lockdown.
[00:27:12]  And in fact, one of the most critical considerations of the document is, quote, revisions in the scenarios, modeling, and projections used to inform planning and consequent changes in planning should be made to accommodate changes in knowledge about COVID-19 characteristics affecting the parameters used for this modeling.
[00:27:28]  So even this plan says, this could change.
[00:27:32]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:33]  You know, we will have to revise these scenarios as more information comes in.
[00:27:37]  We don't know the future.
[00:27:38]  Yeah.
[00:27:39]  The end.
[00:27:40]  Yeah, so using that to be like, haha, you're going to be locked in your home for 18 months is hysterical.
[00:27:45]  Right.
[00:27:46]  Quite frankly.
[00:27:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:27:48]  So that's not fair.
[00:27:52]  And neither is how Alex has sold his food buckets.
[00:27:56]  Okay, yeah.
[00:27:57]  That's true.
[00:27:58]  And I think that Alex is feeling a little bit defensive about that.
[00:28:03]  Right.
[00:28:03]  About his behavior vis-à-vis sales.
[00:28:06]  And so he gets into that a little bit in this next clip.
[00:28:08]  The truck drivers are still delivering, but most people in the warehouses have panicked, put their tail between their legs, and run home, not understanding you're going to get a big giant Great Depression now.
[00:28:19]  Take that.
[00:28:20]  And if it really collapses, millions will starve to death.
[00:28:22]  7 million major universities, look it up.
[00:28:25]  Starve to death during the Great Depression in the United States.
[00:28:28]  Cause death malnutrition.
[00:28:30]  So this is a little weird.
[00:28:31]  This is in the middle of a discussion about Alex's food buckets that kind of feels like a sales pitch, but he's also saying that My Patriot Supply has stopped taking new orders.
[00:28:40]  I'm not sure if that's true because according to their website, I just checked it, in an update from March 20th, they're still taking orders.
[00:28:48]  There's a 12-week delivery window.
[00:28:50]  I'm not sure what the situation is here.
[00:28:52]  Like maybe they've said, Alex, you're not taking orders.
[00:28:55]  We don't want to be associated with Alexis.
[00:28:57]  I don't think that.
[00:28:57]  You don't think so?
[00:28:58]  I think that maybe it's like we can't handle the load from all of our affiliates because they do sell through tons of right-wing media figures.
[00:29:07]  So it might just be a thing where it's like, we're not taking discounted orders from our affiliates anymore.
[00:29:13]  We're only taking direct orders.
[00:29:14]  We're not going to give them a cut.
[00:29:16]  Yeah.
[00:29:17]  Yeah.
[00:29:17]  We're going to do our own thing.
[00:29:18]  We have a demand that's high enough that we don't need this right now.
[00:29:22]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[00:29:24]  But again, that's just a guess.
[00:29:26]  I don't know that to be the case, but I do know that their website is still taking orders.
[00:29:30]  This really just feels like, you know, because he's saying that they're not taking orders anymore, it doesn't feel like a sales pitch because it can't be.
[00:29:37]  You don't have anything to sell.
[00:29:38]  He doesn't have anything to sell.
[00:29:39]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:29:39]  just feels defensive so that's why he's talking about how dare you How dare seven million people died last time, huh?
[00:29:45]  Do you want to be one of those people?
[00:29:47]  No, I'm not a bad person for obviously exploiting this crisis that I didn't know was this bad until pretty much right fucking now, and now I feel bad about it.
[00:29:54]  So we've heard Alex talk about that in the past, how millions starved to death during the Great Depression, and we've discussed how it's absolutely not true.
[00:30:02]  He keeps bringing it up, though, and in this case, it's in the context of talking about his food buckets.
[00:30:06]  So I was a little curious about this claim and where it comes from.
[00:30:09]  The one thing you can be certain of is anytime Alex says something comes from, quote, major universities, it does not come from major universities.
[00:30:18]  It turns out that this stat traces back to research done in 2008 by a Russian gentleman named Boris Borisov.
[00:30:25]  That doesn't sound real.
[00:30:26]  I know.
[00:30:27]  But it is.
[00:30:28]  Boris Boris man?
[00:30:30]  That is the guy's name.
[00:30:31]  All right, okay.
[00:30:32]  And this research was widely covered in outlets like Pravda and RT, but it didn't get a ton of traction outside of those places, most likely because his work was very flawed.
[00:30:40]  Demographers have looked at his assumptions and found that the research is just not good.
[00:30:45]  His basic point is that if you review census data, there are about 7 million people unaccounted for during the Great Depression, and therefore they must have all starved to death.
[00:30:53]  That doesn't sound great.
[00:30:54]  No.
[00:30:54]  Leaving aside how that's a gigantic leap to make, and it's unclear if 7 million are even unaccounted for during that period, there's a ton of other explanations for the demographic numbers, like people not filling out censuses during the Great Depression or mass relocation caused by things like the Dust Bowl.
[00:31:09]  Exactly.
[00:31:10]  Without minimizing the hardships of people living in the Depression era, there's just no good evidence that 7 million people died of starvation.
[00:31:17]  And that raises the question, what's behind this claim that Borisov is making?
[00:31:22]  It's pretty explicit in that Pravda article that the intention here was to frame the Great Depression as America's Holodomor.
[00:31:30]  Okay, all right.
[00:31:32]  So, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:33]  The goal is whitewashing the USSR's man-made famine in Ukraine.
[00:31:38]  Okay, sure, millions of people starved to death, but America did it.
[00:31:43]  See?
[00:31:45]  We're not bad guys.
[00:31:46]  Everybody was starving people for fun.
[00:31:48]  That was a normal thing.
[00:31:49]  Mao, he was doing it.
[00:31:51]  Everybody loved it.
[00:31:51]  The Hall of DeMar is way too complicated for us to get into on this episode, but this is super weird for Alex.
[00:31:58]  He is a huge anti-communist, anti-USSR guy.
[00:32:02]  His entire worldview has grown out of the red baiting hardliners during and after the Cold War.
[00:32:07]  So it seems very out of sync for him to be citing a statistic about U.S. deaths during the Great Depression that was more or less produced as a propaganda narrative to minimize the case of the USSR causing a famine that killed millions.
[00:32:19]  This is an instance where the message of the erroneous stat, that 7 million U.S. citizens starved in the Great Depression, is more important than the context of where that stat comes from.
[00:32:29]  It's because Alex is selling these food buckets, and the erroneous stat helps him further and justify that goal.
[00:32:35]  So who cares if it comes from a pro-USSR, anti-US USA piece of propaganda?
[00:32:41]  This is nuts.
[00:32:42]  It is really like we are in the abyss looking back kind of period of right-wing history.
[00:32:51]  You know, all of these guys are born from a blatant anti-communist lunatic mill.
[00:32:57]  But because the only people now who agree with them in terms of propaganda output are those former communist people, they have to become strange.
[00:33:06]  It's just like radical Christians, like radical Christians agree more with radical Islam than they do with anything else.
[00:33:17]  You know, like the strange times make strange bedfellows kind of situation there, or you become what you hate the most, like that kind of thing.
[00:33:24]  Perhaps.
[00:33:24]  Yeah.
[00:33:25]  It's just weird.
[00:33:26]  It's weird.
[00:33:27]  Alex wants to sell more than he cares about these principles of hating the USSR.
[00:33:31]  What are you going to do?
[00:33:32]  What are you going to do?
[00:33:33]  Come on.
[00:33:34]  You would think.
[00:33:34]  You're a good guy.
[00:33:35]  You would think if you find this article about 7 million Americans dying of starvation during the Great Depression, you would maybe look into it.
[00:33:42]  And then you'd be like, huh, that's not true.
[00:33:44]  Why is this person making this claim?
[00:33:45]  All right.
[00:33:46]  Like I did.
[00:33:47]  Alex is none of that.
[00:33:48]  He's just like, yep, Boris Borisov sounds great.
[00:33:50]  I'm going to pretend I saw that from a major university.
[00:33:53]  And we are going with it.
[00:33:54]  All right.
[00:33:55]  He is a dumb asshole.
[00:33:57]  So there's a thing that's going on that I think is really good and appropriate.
[00:34:02]  And that is that certain states are taking moves to release people from prison during this coronavirus outbreak because overcrowding in prisons will be very detrimental to people's health.
[00:34:15]  You could end up in a very bad situation.
[00:34:17]  I mean, it's an incubator.
[00:34:19]  Like it is, we should remove, we should release them from prison.
[00:34:23]  I mean, we should do a lot of that anyway.
[00:34:24]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:34:25]  I mean, even if you, even if you don't want to, even if you have no interest in the good part of it, just out of pure self-interest, if you do not release people from prisons and you keep them in an overcrowded space, the virus is going to get in there and go fucking hog wild.
[00:34:44]  Yep.
[00:34:45]  And then it's going to get out.
[00:34:46]  Or at least you're creating a circumstance where that is likely or more possible than it would be.
[00:34:52]  Absolutely.
[00:34:52]  So Alex is mad about that and he lies about it a little bit and then he lies about some other stuff.
[00:34:56]  It was hundreds yesterday.
[00:34:57]  LA's now released thousands since two days ago.
[00:35:01]  It's now thousands today.
[00:35:02]  There's an article from yesterday saying hundreds.
[00:35:04]  But don't worry, I have all the stacks of articles right here that if you get caught in France trying to go out and even walk your dog, you're going to jail.
[00:35:13]  Oh, they're letting the Islamics out and they're letting the child molesters out.
[00:35:17]  But they want you, the producer, to know we own your ass.
[00:35:21]  Hey, whites.
[00:35:22]  Hey, that's the message.
[00:35:23]  Dog walkers, get in there.
[00:35:25]  So in France, you can still walk your dog.
[00:35:27]  The government website literally lists the acceptable reasons to leave your home.
[00:35:31]  And one of them is, quote, for short trips close to your home linked to physical individual activity and for the needs of domestic pets.
[00:35:38]  Yeah, there you go.
[00:35:39]  They've put in a system where you need to fill out a form to have in your possession in case you're out and you're stopped by a patrolling officer.
[00:35:45]  You know, to you know, which I'm not super thrilled with, but I kind of understand.
[00:35:49]  I don't like a hall pass.
[00:35:51]  I don't know this for certain, but I have to think that if you're out walking your dog, even if you don't have one of those forms, you're probably just going to get a warning.
[00:35:58]  Either way, France isn't putting people in jail for violating the quarantine guidelines.
[00:36:03]  There's just a fine of 135 euros.
[00:36:05]  You know what?
[00:36:06]  Silence is lying.
[00:36:08]  We have all of these people that we need to keep separated.
[00:36:11]  So, if one of them gets out, we need to put them with a whole bunch of other people.
[00:36:16]  This makes perfect sense.
[00:36:18]  Right.
[00:36:18]  That's a problem of the thinking.
[00:36:20]  Yeah.
[00:36:20]  As to the issue of California releasing prisoners, I can't find any evidence that the prisoners being released are the ones who are convicted of violent crimes.
[00:36:27]  And from what I can tell, it's mostly people who had pretty short times left on their sentences to begin with.
[00:36:32]  Prison overcrowding is a very serious issue, particularly in a public health crisis.
[00:36:36]  Anything that can be done to minimize the risk that incarcerated persons face is something that should be considered.
[00:36:42]  Does that mean releasing all murderers?
[00:36:44]  Not necessarily, but it does mean possibly releasing nonviolent drug offenders so there's appropriate space to house the violent offenders in the prison setting responsibly.

=== Producers With A Common Trait (01:43) ===

[00:36:53]  From everything I can tell from the articles I've read, that's basically what's happening.
[00:36:56]  Yeah.
[00:36:57]  For someone like Alex, who allegedly is opposed to people being in jail for drugs and likes to pretend he's a fucking libertarian, should be a good thing.
[00:37:04]  But it's not because he wants to try and turn it into a wedge thing where they're letting the Islamicists let them run wildly.
[00:37:13]  What do they share?
[00:37:14]  The producers.
[00:37:15]  The producers.
[00:37:15]  They're going to jam you up.
[00:37:17]  And, you know, producers do have one, like, in his mind, physical characteristic in common.
[00:37:23]  Sure.
[00:37:23]  I would say.
[00:37:24]  Yeah.
[00:37:24]  So he talks about that a little bit more here.
[00:37:26]  Okay.
[00:37:26]  The illegal aliens and Islamic invaders, they're just burning things, running around, raping, laughing, control whole areas of cities, no-go zones.
[00:37:32]  That's all fine and dandy for them.
[00:37:35]  But all the compliant good slaves are being nailed to the wall.
[00:37:40]  So I'm going to tell you again: we have a big supply of a lot of our supplements.
[00:37:43]  A lot of people are going to be able to do it.
[00:37:44]  God damn it.
[00:37:45]  Wow.
[00:37:45]  You motherfucker.
[00:37:48]  Wow.
[00:37:49]  You would think that that behavior was crazy.
[00:37:52]  Wow.
[00:37:53]  Motherfucker.
[00:37:54]  Yeah.
[00:37:55]  How can you be defensive about food sales and then all of a sudden be like, well, yeah, obviously we need to get rid of all illegal aliens and immigrants and Muslims.
[00:38:04]  And you should buy pills too.
[00:38:06]  Just so you know, we need to get rid of all of the immigrants, but you should buy pills.
[00:38:11]  It's a bit, it's a bit much.
[00:38:13]  I'll say it's brutal.
[00:38:14]  That's brutal.
[00:38:15]  Yeah.
[00:38:15]  That is really fucking brutal.
[00:38:17]  From my position, anybody who has any concerns about Alex really being on the up and up and being right about stuff, go check on that behavior and come back and talk to me.

=== Bill Gates: The Villain Behind (03:44) ===

[00:38:27]  So Alex on this episode is mostly on the like, you know, the martial law is coming.
[00:38:33]  It's here, tip.
[00:38:35]  There's not a whole lot of evolution in terms of narratives about the virus because a lot of that's pretty solidified.
[00:38:40]  Like the, it was made in that lab at UNC Chapel Hill.
[00:38:43]  Obama sold it to China.
[00:38:44]  Yep.
[00:38:44]  Bioweapon.
[00:38:45]  Yeah.
[00:38:45]  Yeah.
[00:38:46]  The whole thing.
[00:38:46]  But now he needs to build from there.
[00:38:49]  And, you know, this is a very obvious development, and that is that Bill Gates is the big bad guy.
[00:38:53]  Sure.
[00:38:54]  He's the villain behind all of this.
[00:38:55]  No, certainly not.
[00:38:57]  So Alex gets into that a little bit here.
[00:38:59]  So here is just a short sampling of Bill Gates who headed up the UN Disease X operation saying this mystery thing's coming in a few years.
[00:39:08]  Get ready.
[00:39:08]  World government will save you.
[00:39:10]  Then he did a tabletop exercise in November where 65 million die from a coronavirus.
[00:39:15]  They rolled a 20.
[00:39:16]  He's got the patented vaccine ingredient.
[00:39:20]  I mean, they check the vaccine records.
[00:39:23]  Then they have all these TV shows that he finances about how he's a hero creating a vaccine to stop a world pandemic.
[00:39:31]  And out of China, we get the bird flu, the swine flu, and now this.
[00:39:37]  The wine flu.
[00:39:38]  And SARS.
[00:39:41]  For the big pandemics, all from China.
[00:39:44]  All that stuff about Bill Gates is nonsense, and it's stuff we've gone over in the past.
[00:39:48]  But I wanted to check in real quick with Alex's claim there at the end that all these diseases come out of China.
[00:39:54]  I really don't think they do, Dan.
[00:39:55]  So, the bird flu is not one specific disease.
[00:39:58]  There are a lot of avian influenzas, but obviously, the one Alex is talking about is H5N1.
[00:40:03]  Interestingly, the first case of human H5N1 was found in Hong Kong, which, according to Alex's stated policy set, he doesn't believe that's part of China.
[00:40:11]  So, there's that's but that's on the cusp.
[00:40:13]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:40:14]  He, he, he would call that China for the purposes of this argument.
[00:40:17]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:40:18]  The 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic was one that had a more at the time, it had a pretty openly debated origin.
[00:40:27]  Like, people weren't entirely clear.
[00:40:29]  In 2016, researchers at the Icon School of Medicine at Mount Sinai demonstrated through genetic analysis that that virus traced back to central Mexico.
[00:40:38]  SARS and the current outbreak are fair to say that they started in China, but using that information in any context outside of epidemiology sounds kind of pointless.
[00:40:47]  Alex doesn't really know anything about this topic, as evidenced by his claim that all these outbreaks originated in China.
[00:40:53]  He's just trying to play the game of assigning blame to his chosen target, in this case, China Bill Gates.
[00:40:59]  Also, if he's saying that these are the four big pandemics, then what about Zika and MERS?
[00:41:03]  Or what about Ebola?
[00:41:04]  He did a whole lot of Ebola coverage in his day, so it's weird to see that left off his list.
[00:41:09]  You don't need to worry about that one.
[00:41:10]  It doesn't comport with today's narrative, so it doesn't exist.
[00:41:13]  Yeah, I can't, I cannot.
[00:41:16]  It just, it's so stupid.
[00:41:18]  Like, unless China literally made it, which they didn't, then you can't, it doesn't matter where it originates.
[00:41:24]  It's just viruses can exist and explode from literally anywhere.
[00:41:28]  Yes, they're old, they're older than us.
[00:41:33]  There's an element of randomness, yeah.
[00:41:35]  You might as well blame Earth or not even that fucking space.
[00:41:38]  Viruses are just part of the game.
[00:41:40]  I'm down with that.
[00:41:41]  Yeah, I think it's space's fault.
[00:41:43]  That's why we need a space force.
[00:41:44]  It's entirely possible viruses seeded all life on this planet, though.

=== Big Interview: Coronavirus Talk (02:27) ===

[00:41:47]  Trump is trying to create Space Force, not in order to fight in space to fight space.
[00:41:53]  To fight space itself.
[00:41:54]  Yes.
[00:41:54]  Okay.
[00:41:55]  All right.
[00:41:55]  So you got to find that dark matter somehow.
[00:41:58]  Smoke it out.
[00:41:59]  So on this show, this is the 19th.
[00:42:02]  This is Thursday.
[00:42:02]  Yeah.
[00:42:03]  Alex has a big interview coming up on Friday.
[00:42:05]  And I want you to try and guess who you think the guest is.
[00:42:08]  Big interview on Friday.
[00:42:09]  Big interview.
[00:42:10]  Big interview.
[00:42:11]  He doesn't usually promote the next day's interview in advance.
[00:42:15]  All right.
[00:42:15]  And he does it multiple times on this episode.
[00:42:18]  So who do you think it is?
[00:42:20]  It's got to be disappointing.
[00:42:21]  You bet.
[00:42:22]  I'm either going to go Nick Fuentes or our big boy, Stevie Pease.
[00:42:27]  Nope.
[00:42:27]  Got a special guest on tomorrow, Shimaine Nugent.
[00:42:30]  Very smart lady.
[00:42:31]  Gotten to know her and Ted Nugent pretty good over the years.
[00:42:34]  And she's a lot, well, in her words, bolder than she used to be.
[00:42:37]  She's willing to really let it all hang out.
[00:42:41]  And so this is an interview you don't want to miss tomorrow at high noon.
[00:42:45]  Important to talk.
[00:42:47]  Coronavirus, the Q movement.
[00:42:50]  Ted Nugent.
[00:42:51]  He's going to have Ted Nugent's wife on to talk coronavirus.
[00:42:55]  Ah, she's.
[00:43:00]  What does she do?
[00:43:02]  She writes books, some of them about being married to Ted Nugent.
[00:43:07]  There we go.
[00:43:07]  Okay.
[00:43:08]  So that makes her well situated to talk about the coronavirus.
[00:43:12]  She's a Zumba instructor.
[00:43:14]  We'll get into her when she's.
[00:43:16]  All right.
[00:43:16]  So she's a super sprinter.
[00:43:18]  Is that what she's talking about here?
[00:43:19]  I don't know.
[00:43:20]  I think her and Ted live in the woods.
[00:43:23]  We'll get to that whenever she shows up on the show.
[00:43:25]  But that's just, it's so ludicrous to me, the idea.
[00:43:28]  We got a big interview.
[00:43:28]  We got Ted Nugent's wife.
[00:43:30]  So, like I said, this is going to be in high demand.
[00:43:33]  Certainly.
[00:43:34]  There is a theme that runs through this, like I said, that when Alex talks about the bringing down of the economy, it's just Bill Maher.
[00:43:41]  Sickening people.
[00:43:43]  Because they're not just trying to blame Trump with this and kill the economy, as they said they would do to bring down Trump and to teach Americans, as Bill Maher said, to roll over and bow down.
[00:43:53]  It's such authoritarians.
[00:43:54]  I don't like Bill Maher.
[00:43:57]  Shorting the market.
[00:43:58]  So you can see in that clip, again, the only reference Alex can ever make when he talks about the plan to bring down the economy to get rid of Trump is something Bill Maher said on HBO.

=== Congressional Short-Selling Scandal (15:39) ===

[00:44:07]  And Alex wants you to believe that there's an elaborate globalist conspiracy afoot.
[00:44:11]  But weirdly, the only proof is something that Bill Maher said.
[00:44:15]  Great.
[00:44:16]  So last week, there were a lot of stories that came out about people in Congress selling off stock, weirdly, right after they got a briefing about the coronavirus situation.
[00:44:24]  That was such a really interesting coincidence that happened.
[00:44:28]  I'm really like, I feel bad for them because this looks so bad.
[00:44:31]  You know, I'm sure this was entirely innocent.
[00:44:33]  Yeah.
[00:44:34]  They need to prove their good names.
[00:44:36]  According to The Hill, Republicans Kelly Loeffler, James Inhoff, and Richard Burr, as well as Democrat Dianne Feinstein, quote, each sold hundreds of thousands of dollars in stock within days of the Senate holding a classified briefing on January 24th with Trump administration officials on the threat of the coronavirus outbreak.
[00:44:53]  Newsflash, four of the worst people in the world do the worst thing in the world.
[00:44:58]  Everyone's got an excuse, but I'm not sure anyone cares.
[00:45:02]  I don't know what the government should do about these individual cases, but it's probably time to ban elected officials from having stocks.
[00:45:08]  The inherent conflict of interest is just something we apparently can't trust people to handle responsibly when they're supposed to be acting in the public interest.
[00:45:15]  I thought that's what Alex was talking about when he said people are shorting.
[00:45:19]  Absolutely not.
[00:45:20]  It's not.
[00:45:20]  Of course not.
[00:45:21]  There's no way that he would criticize a noted monster, Senator Inhoff.
[00:45:25]  What these congresspeople did was sell stock, presumably based on non-public information, which might be accurately called insider trading.
[00:45:32]  But that's not the same thing as short selling.
[00:45:35]  Short selling is a super risky market play that goes like this.
[00:45:39]  You have a hunch that a business's stock is going to drop in price.
[00:45:42]  So you borrow stocks from someone willing to lend them to you.
[00:45:45]  Then you immediately sell them with the expectation that you can buy them back later for a substantially lower price.
[00:45:52]  At that point, you can return the stocks to the lender and pocket the profits.
[00:45:56]  You theoretically make a lot of money without any initial investment.
[00:46:00]  The downside is that if your hunch is wrong and the stocks increase in value after you sell them, you're on the hook to buy them back for an increased price so you can return them to the lender.
[00:46:09]  It's gambling.
[00:46:10]  Yes.
[00:46:10]  It's literally gambling.
[00:46:11]  Our economy is built almost entirely upon short selling.
[00:46:15]  Short selling is not the bulk of marketing.
[00:46:17]  No, no, no, I know.
[00:46:18]  But if you, for instance, know that there's a housing bubble, then you're going to get very, very, very rich while the world explodes.
[00:46:25]  Yeah.
[00:46:26]  Because of this potential gigantic downside, most people don't advise anyone to fuck around with stuff like short selling.
[00:46:32]  As Market Watch explains, if you buy stocks normally, the most you can lose is 100% of your money.
[00:46:37]  Conversely, with short selling, the amount you lose is literally limitless.
[00:46:42]  You could lose any amount of money.
[00:46:44]  Yep.
[00:46:44]  Alex is not talking about these congresspeople when he's talking about short selling, but because there is a story that's going to be coming up about it, I wanted to explain what short selling was before we get to that.
[00:46:55]  It's real fucked up.
[00:46:57]  Yeah, it's not great.
[00:46:58]  But also, I don't know.
[00:47:01]  I don't know my entire feeling on banning it.
[00:47:04]  I read some articles that say it's a good idea.
[00:47:06]  I read some articles that said it's stupid.
[00:47:08]  There's no need to ban it.
[00:47:10]  I don't know.
[00:47:10]  I don't know.
[00:47:11]  I'm not a market expert.
[00:47:12]  Don't take any advice from me.
[00:47:15]  So here's where Alex gets more into this.
[00:47:18]  And he's talking about this short-selling conspiracy that he's found.
[00:47:22]  But what they don't tell you when they're all up there manipulating the market on television is that they're shorting it.
[00:47:28]  And they started shorting it 10 weeks ago.
[00:47:30]  And I went and looked it up.
[00:47:34]  And they said a depression's going to stop Trump.
[00:47:36]  If I played all the clips, we would take the rest of the hour up.
[00:47:39]  But I do have someone to play next hour.
[00:47:41]  Bill Maher and CNN and MSNBC and PBS.
[00:47:44]  I hate Bill Maher.
[00:47:46]  Saying we're going to pledge the economy to get Trump.
[00:47:48]  Wow.
[00:47:50]  So I know that he says that he has all these clips and he can't play them because it'll take the rest of the hour.
[00:47:54]  But as I've listened to his show, I've never heard a compelling clip that he's played that indicates that anyone is saying that we would like the market to go down to hurt Trump except Bill Maher.
[00:48:04]  Right.
[00:48:05]  The only fucking person.
[00:48:06]  So he's talking about.
[00:48:07]  Because he's so fucking edgy, Dan.
[00:48:09]  And because he's so edgy.
[00:48:10]  And because he's the mouthpiece of the globalists.
[00:48:12]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:48:12]  Officially.
[00:48:13]  He's a dick.
[00:48:14]  So that clip, he was talking about someone being on TV and trying to cause the market to go down because they had been short selling.
[00:48:23]  And he doesn't make clear who he's talking about until this next clip.
[00:48:26]  But I'll tell you the good news.
[00:48:28]  When I saw this video yesterday up on Infowars.com and Apollo Joseph Watson article, I knew who the guy was already thinking he's a villain.
[00:48:37]  Ah.
[00:48:37]  And connected to Soros.
[00:48:38]  And then I went and looked him up and I went to the YouTube of the video of him.
[00:48:42]  The YouTube.
[00:48:42]  On national television on CNBC.
[00:48:46]  And almost every commenter was: this is the guy that bought up that drug company and increased prices 5,000%.
[00:48:52]  This is the guy that is constantly doing insider stuff and shorting things and trying to bring down U.S. companies.
[00:48:58]  He calls himself an activist investor.
[00:49:00]  And what he works to do is go after nationalist and conservative operations.
[00:49:05]  Oh, but he's a Harvard alum, so he's part of the Harvard mafia.
[00:49:09]  So they call him an activist investor.
[00:49:11]  So apparently he's talking about this guy, Bill Ackman, who had just done a fairly strange and possibly alarming segment on CNBC where he'd advocated Trump call for a 30-day nationwide shutdown of the economy.
[00:49:23]  I think his quote was something along the lines of like capitalism can't work with an 18-month shutdown, but it can survive a 30-day complete lockdown or whatever.
[00:49:32]  It's basically his position.
[00:49:34]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:49:35]  He had some very doom-laden predictions, but he also said that he was buying stock, which led to a lot of people accusing him of having short positions.
[00:49:41]  As Business Insider put it, there were accusations, quote, that he was trying to scare investors into selling so he could buy at a discount or profit from short bets.
[00:49:50]  Beyond those accusations, I don't see any proof being provided that he actually did have those short positions.
[00:49:55]  It's just something that people were saying.
[00:49:57]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:49:58]  Also, Ackman is not involved with Soros in any meaningful way beyond them both being hedge fund billionaires.
[00:50:03]  Most of the articles you can find about the two of them are about how they have opposite positions on some company over time.
[00:50:10]  Ackman also doesn't hate Trump.
[00:50:11]  A Vanity Affair article from November 2016 says, quote, Bill Ackman looks at President Trump and likes what he sees.
[00:50:19]  A Fortune article from the same time, quote, Bill Ackman says he's bullish on Trump.
[00:50:24]  In his comments about how the economy should shut down for a month to save itself, he was even complimentary toward Trump, saying that if he could navigate this crisis, he could be re-elected in November.
[00:50:34]  He is not an anti-Trump guy.
[00:50:36]  I don't know what Alex is doing here.
[00:50:38]  You just pick him.
[00:50:40]  Just pick one.
[00:50:40]  You can pick any billionaire.
[00:50:42]  They're all acting evil as shit right now.
[00:50:44]  I would believe half of anything.
[00:50:45]  Also, he isn't the guy who bought that drug company, increased prices 5,000%.
[00:50:49]  That was Martin Shkrelli, who's currently in prison.
[00:50:51]  Yeah.
[00:50:52]  Ackman's hedge fund.
[00:50:52]  And he should not be let out.
[00:50:54]  Ackman's hedge fund had invested in a company called Valiant, eventually leading to approximately them having control of 10% of the shares.
[00:51:03]  And that company has had some drug price gouging issues.
[00:51:07]  In 2017, Ackman sold off all his shares in Valiant and in the process lost $4 billion.
[00:51:13]  He would go on to apologize for the investment in the company, but mostly for losing his investors' money, not for the price gouging, because he wasn't the person who made that decision.
[00:51:22]  Still very shitty being involved in that company at all.
[00:51:25]  But he didn't do the price gouging Alex is claiming that he did.
[00:51:30]  So anyway, Alex doesn't really know anything about this guy, but he, I guess, is a villain now.
[00:51:35]  So Alex claims, without providing any evidence, any proof, that Bill Ackman is shorting key industries in the United States.
[00:51:45]  Key industries.
[00:51:46]  And then you find out he's shorting all these key industries, and he knows if Trump orders.
[00:51:51]  Our doors are too locked.
[00:51:52]  They will then go down to close to zero, and then he will buy them up.
[00:51:56]  And then turn the lights back on, just like Rothschild did when they beat Napoleon.
[00:52:00]  Rothschild crossed it.
[00:52:04]  With the message that Lord Wellington had defeated Napoleon in the second war.
[00:52:09]  They then had a fast Corvette, not a car, a fast ship, race across and tell the stock market, Lord Wellington's been destroyed.
[00:52:18]  The British army's down.
[00:52:20]  We are now vanquished by Napoleon.
[00:52:22]  Stock market went to 1%, and Lord Rothschild became the richest man on earth and controlled the British Empire.
[00:52:29]  That's on record.
[00:52:30]  That's in mainline history.
[00:52:32]  And the same thing's happening again today.
[00:52:34]  So, billionaire Bill Ackerman.
[00:52:36]  Ackman.
[00:52:37]  So this story about Nathan Rothschild is not true.
[00:52:40]  It's not in mainline history because it's a fake story that's been used as a key element of anti-Semitic propaganda for decades.
[00:52:45]  All right, well, there is that.
[00:52:46]  We covered this in extended detail in our endgame coverage, but the basic element of this is that the story gained popularity first in 1846 when it was told in a pamphlet signed by a person calling themselves Satan.
[00:52:59]  It was actually written by a very public anti-Semite named George Daneville.
[00:53:03]  I thought it was Boris Borisov for a second, but okay.
[00:53:06]  The story is directly contradicted by historical evidence, but the narrative caught on anyway.
[00:53:10]  And you can find it popping up all over the place in dicey settings, like the 1940 Nazi propaganda film, The Rothschild Shares at Waterloo.
[00:53:19]  This is pure and simple, no two ways about it, an anti-Semitic piece of historical fiction.
[00:53:24]  Anybody who repeats this line is either someone pushing it knowing fully well that it's bogus, or they're the sort of person who would uncritically accept narratives that find a good fit in Nazi wartime propaganda.
[00:53:35]  I have no idea if Ackman is short-selling any industries, and Alex has provided no proof of it on this show.
[00:53:40]  I would suspect that he's probably not, seeing as on April 16th, 2019, he announced that he and his hedge fund, Pershing Square, had, quote, forsworn short-selling.
[00:53:51]  Maybe he was lying, though.
[00:53:52]  I don't know.
[00:53:53]  And Alex doesn't either.
[00:53:54]  So Alex talks more about this.
[00:53:56]  They said they're going to break down the economy.
[00:53:59]  That's what they said.
[00:54:00]  Or Bill Maher.
[00:54:00]  They're selling the economy by design.
[00:54:02]  And if you remember, Democrats, MSNBC, CNN, HBO host, like Bill Maher, they're not going to be able to do it.
[00:54:09]  I don't like Bill Maher.
[00:54:11]  They said over and over and over again that they were going to plunge the economy, that it was worth it to stop Donald Trump.
[00:54:22]  I thought that went longer.
[00:54:26]  That's, yeah, so I mean, it's just Bill Maher.
[00:54:28]  Again, this is Bill Maher.
[00:54:29]  I hate sound like a dead horse or beating a dead horse, but like it is all he's got.
[00:54:35]  Some asshole says it, and now he gets to scream about how CNN and NBS and DC and all of that shit.
[00:54:40]  I would like to be fair to Alex.
[00:54:42]  So I am going to play the full compilation of clips that he plays on his show of proving this claim.
[00:54:48]  Okay.
[00:54:49]  Pay attention to how much fucking Bill Maher is in this conversation.
[00:54:52]  Here we go.
[00:54:53]  Here's a short compilation, just a sampling of their revelatory every behavior against all of us.
[00:55:01]  Here it is.
[00:55:02]  A woman asked me, do you think we're going to have a recession?
[00:55:04]  And I said, well, I'd never say never, but I said, I think the economy is pretty fundamentally strong, and I don't see one on the horizon.
[00:55:10]  And the people kind of grimaced when I said that.
[00:55:13]  And one woman said, I want a recession because that'll help get rid of Donald Trump.
[00:55:17]  And I think that's most liberals won't admit that.
[00:55:21]  But when you see what's happened with the media coverage of the economy, Martha, over the last 10 to 14 days, it's, you know, the new our word isn't racism for now.
[00:55:30]  It's recession.
[00:55:31]  I feel like the bottom has to fall out at some point.
[00:55:34]  And by the way, I'm hoping for it because I think one way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy.
[00:55:39]  So he's bringing the recession.
[00:55:41]  But as far as the winning economy that the president needs from now until November, do you really see that changing?
[00:55:47]  Well, I'll give you two examples.
[00:55:48]  2008, at this time, nobody thought we would have a global financial crisis right on our shores.
[00:55:54]  And that's the thing that really sunk John McCain's candidacy then.
[00:55:58]  Think about 2018.
[00:55:59]  You know what happened in Q4 2018?
[00:56:01]  The stock market fell 20%.
[00:56:03]  You know what also happened?
[00:56:04]  The Dems took back the House in that period.
[00:56:06]  So if the stock market were to tumble this year, if we don't get near the 3% GDP growth that this administration has been talking about for years, these are all things that Dems can run on, and they pose a problem.
[00:56:17]  All right, Josh, isn't the Fed cutting rates just going to make the next economic downturn worse?
[00:56:22]  What's your prediction?
[00:56:24]  I've been hoping for a recession.
[00:56:26]  People hate me for it, but it would get rid of Trump, so you shouldn't hate me for it.
[00:56:30]  They said we would see the global economy recession in three quarters.
[00:56:34]  Perfect timing, I say.
[00:56:35]  I mean, I've been rooting for a recession.
[00:56:37]  Sean Hannity says I'm able for that, and I'm bringing it on.
[00:56:39]  Sean, if you're watching, I'm not a genie.
[00:56:42]  I can't make it happen.
[00:56:44]  I'm just wishing it.
[00:56:45]  If it happens, it'll be because of your Lord and the Savior, Donald J. Trump.
[00:56:48]  A recession is a survival.
[00:56:51]  What Trump is doing for this country is not.
[00:56:54]  His trade policy with China first saw a closed, more or less.
[00:57:01]  So almost that entire compilation is clips of Bill Maher.
[00:57:04]  One of them is just a pundit saying that Democrats can run on economic issues if the stock market is bad, which is a little shy of rooting for the market to collapse to hurt Trump.
[00:57:14]  It's just kind of like political fact.
[00:57:18]  So, but that also means that if the economy does well, then Trump can run on that.
[00:57:24]  I'm sure they would say that as well.
[00:57:25]  So that kind of cancels out the whole work.
[00:57:28]  I'm not sure if that's even part of the conversation.
[00:57:30]  Yeah, I wouldn't be saying that.
[00:57:31]  It's a very implicit part of the statement.
[00:57:33]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:57:34]  The only clip in there other than Bill Maher that's questionable at all is the first one.
[00:57:39]  That was from an interview that took place in August 2019 on Fox News.
[00:57:43]  The person speaking is Stephen Moore, who's an economic advisor to Trump, a writer for the Heritage Foundation, and author of a book called Trumponomics.
[00:57:51]  He's a great guy.
[00:57:52]  Hardly a source I would consider unbiased.
[00:57:54]  No, no, no, no.
[00:57:55]  That's a hard and fast story.
[00:57:56]  Somebody who Trump actually nominated or was going to nominate to be on the Federal Reserve.
[00:58:01]  Of course, of course.
[00:58:03]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:58:03]  So interestingly, that interview begins with a clip of Bill Maher.
[00:58:07]  And the whole premise of the interview is that Stephen Moore had recently run into a woman who believes the same thing as Bill Maher.
[00:58:13]  That's great.
[00:58:14]  It's so weird how all these roads just go back to right-wing assholes not being able to just admit that they're mad at Bill Maher.
[00:58:20]  They want to talk about their anger, but they also want to dress it up as something more important than being mad at Bill Maher.
[00:58:25]  Yeah.
[00:58:26]  This was one in a series of interviews that followed that same theme that Stephen Moore did, all based on an essay that he had written about Democrats rooting for a recession.
[00:58:35]  It was posted on the Heritage Foundation's website.
[00:58:38]  Interestingly, that article begins, quote, last week I gave a talk to high wealth investors in San Francisco, not exactly an audience of left-wing activists.
[00:58:46]  That's where he runs into this woman who wanted a recession to get rid of Trump.
[00:58:50]  I don't know.
[00:58:51]  I'm not sure if I buy this apocryphal story from one of Trump's advisors.
[00:58:55]  But it did happen in a hot tub about how Trump's opposition wants to destroy the economy to hurt Trump.
[00:59:00]  Seems like bullshit.
[00:59:01]  Sure, well, there is that.
[00:59:02]  That's all this is.
[00:59:03]  Alex is mad at Bill Maher.
[00:59:05]  He's pretending the things Marr says with a uniform position to the left.
[00:59:08]  He's so pathetic.
[00:59:10]  This is sad.
[00:59:12]  These people are stupid.
[00:59:13]  I'm mad.
[00:59:14]  Now, yeah.
[00:59:15]  Let's have a little fun.
[00:59:16]  Because that's how Alex goes out to break and how he comes back from break.
[00:59:20]  You know, it's fun when he sings over country music.
[00:59:22]  Love it.
[00:59:23]  It's fun when he goes over the sacks and you belong to the city.

=== Vaccine Trials and Bioweapons (02:22) ===

[00:59:26]  Amazing.
[00:59:27]  This is so weird.
[00:59:29]  He tries to hip talk over mic down.
[00:59:33]  Mike.
[00:59:34]  Okay.
[00:59:34]  Get you didn't know.
[00:59:38]  That's how they roll.
[00:59:41]  And they've got the vaccine ready, but they got to do the trials first.
[00:59:43]  And Bill Gates owns that.
[00:59:46]  And did the tabletop exercise four months ago where 65 million died from the coronavirus.
[00:59:51]  And Obama transferred the virus in 2015 under big protest to he guessed it.
[00:59:56]  They're going on in the bioweapons lab.
[00:59:59]  Get busy time.
[01:00:00]  They're getting busy.
[01:00:04]  They're getting busy.
[01:00:05]  I guess you didn't know.
[01:00:09]  Right about now.
[01:00:10]  The folks your brother.
[01:00:12]  Oh, God.
[01:00:13]  Check it out now.
[01:00:14]  What adorable?
[01:00:15]  The fuck so, brother.
[01:00:16]  It's the worst.
[01:00:20]  I guess you did.
[01:00:21]  God, that's so bad.
[01:00:22]  It's got to be.
[01:00:23]  He's just got to be sitting there thinking, like, I am fucking the coolest.
[01:00:27]  I could adapt to any musical genre.
[01:00:30]  People think what rappers do is hard.
[01:00:32]  Look at this shit.
[01:00:33]  He crushed it.
[01:00:34]  My name is Alex, and I'm here to say, I like to scare you in a coronavirus way.
[01:00:40]  Get the fuck out of here.
[01:00:42]  Done.
[01:00:42]  Done.
[01:00:45]  So in this next clip, Alex reveals a shocking lack of knowledge about basic information about the situation in America.
[01:00:53]  All of that craziness.
[01:00:57]  The flu kills about 150 people a day if you average it out over a year in the United States alone.
[01:01:03]  How many have died in the United States?
[01:01:07]  Is it even 100?
[01:01:11]  Let's look that up.
[01:01:13]  You should have known that.
[01:01:15]  So on the 19th, which is when this episode was recorded, there were 207 deaths in the United States related to coronavirus.
[01:01:21]  For someone like Alex to be behaving the way he is on air, it's deeply disgraceful for him to not be aware of basic information about the topic.
[01:01:28]  For some context, on March 7th, there were 233 total deaths related to coronavirus in Italy.

=== Alex's Unmovable Narrative (07:39) ===

[01:01:34]  By March 20th, there had been over 4,000.
[01:01:37]  That's a two-week progression, and that's what we don't want to see here.
[01:01:41]  Alex is the anti-martial law guy, except for the many times he says he wants Trump to enact martial law.
[01:01:47]  So when he sees severe measures being taken to stop a pandemic, it's kind of on brand for him to be against those measures and minimize everything.
[01:01:55]  And that mentality, if pervasive enough, will impede our country's ability to deal with this outbreak.
[01:01:59]  Simply put, if you listen to Alex, you'll have a lot of food and silver in your home, but you'll be looking at a situation like Italy in the near future, most likely.
[01:02:07]  Yep.
[01:02:08]  If you don't take this seriously, yeah, they're saying the UK is showing that same progression right now.
[01:02:12]  That same two-week double after double after double.
[01:02:16]  So the goal is, you know, what they keep saying, flatten the curve.
[01:02:22]  Yeah.
[01:02:22]  Make things manageable in a way that it doesn't become a complete disaster.
[01:02:28]  Alex is not in favor.
[01:02:29]  Not a fan of that.
[01:02:31]  And of course, the answer is, well, the bell curve.
[01:02:34]  You know, that goes straight.
[01:02:35]  The answer is not the bell curve.
[01:02:36]  Hospitals and everything.
[01:02:37]  The answer is never the bell curve.
[01:02:39]  Space it out.
[01:02:40]  They're saying, oh, you're all still going to get it.
[01:02:43]  That's why we made it.
[01:02:45]  But we're going to space it out over 18 months.
[01:02:48]  And of course, you know, once you've lived with having to have your papers go outside your house and drones barking orders at you for 18 months, you're never going back.
[01:02:59]  Never going back.
[01:03:01]  Never coming back.
[01:03:04]  Just like the UN said, world government needs a bioweapon or a new plague To get the public to accept surveillance and control and forced inoculation and gun confiscation, so we better start having a discussion about that.
[01:03:25]  But I know that's a thing that's happening.
[01:03:28]  So, I think this is a good time to point out a real problem with what I'm feeling right now, which is pretty well suggested by that clip.
[01:03:34]  Alex is saying that once you go into lockdown type situations, you never go back.
[01:03:38]  This is, in essence, the beginning of the tyranny that he's long foretold, if you believe what he's saying.
[01:03:44]  And that's a problem because if I know anything at all, it's that Alex recommends fighting against that tyranny.
[01:03:50]  So, what form would that take?
[01:03:52]  Would it involve people not self-isolating in its you know in a milder expression of this mentality?
[01:03:58]  That would be damaging and it could get a lot of people hurt.
[01:04:01]  But what's far more scary is if you believe what Alex is saying, it's time to kill people.
[01:04:06]  What possible scenario is there that's more time to act than now?
[01:04:10]  If you believe that this is a globalist plot to bring in martial law that will never go away and kill freedom, this is a gigantic problem for Alex's rhetoric.
[01:04:18]  His rhetoric relies on escalation, and once we're already in a place of almost impossibly high tension, he can really only get people killed.
[01:04:26]  As the virus situation gets worse, he'll need to scale his rhetoric to match.
[01:04:30]  If things go as badly as they might, things could get really dark.
[01:04:33]  And Alex has already established a narrative of who's to blame for this, and he can't really take that back now.
[01:04:39]  Yeah, Alex has already said many times that if anyone in his family gets the virus, he's going to kill some globalists, maybe Obama.
[01:04:45]  If that isn't giving tacit permission to your audience to do the same, I don't know what is.
[01:04:50]  It's really fucked up.
[01:04:51]  He's trapped in an extremist bubble right now.
[01:04:55]  Yeah, that I don't know.
[01:04:56]  I don't know how you can't de-escalate this while the crisis is still going, and he's already shot his wad.
[01:05:01]  Yeah, I know.
[01:05:02]  It does seem like you really should have called for armed insurrection later on.
[01:05:08]  You know, like he's he's already uh took us to taken us to that place.
[01:05:13]  Well, I don't know if he has explicitly, but implicitly, based on his rhetoric, A, then B, B, then C, A, then C.
[01:05:21]  Yes, it's a very simple equation of the things that he preaches.
[01:05:25]  Yeah, it's it's trouble.
[01:05:26]  He's literally given a like, okay, if these things start to happen, then we have to start the hot war.
[01:05:34]  And those things have started to happen.
[01:05:36]  Yep.
[01:05:37]  So what's he going to say?
[01:05:39]  Whoops, my bad.
[01:05:40]  I buy my pills.
[01:05:41]  I meant that's what he's going to say.
[01:05:43]  I meant we should do it on the next pandemic.
[01:05:45]  And while you're waiting this one out, you're going to need some DNA force.
[01:05:49]  Buy my shit.
[01:05:49]  You're going to need some DNA force.
[01:05:51]  Speaking of Alex's sales, how are they doing?
[01:05:54]  Well, you know, he got that letter from the New York Attorney General telling him to cease and desist on the silver.
[01:05:58]  He did read it correctly, too.
[01:05:59]  And he pretends that he won that battle.
[01:06:02]  Okay.
[01:06:03]  You know, you saw all those big national headlines last week about Alex Jones selling fake coronavirus cures.
[01:06:09]  Never said we had a cure.
[01:06:10]  Never said we had a treatment.
[01:06:11]  Prevention.
[01:06:12]  Yeah, he's going to knock it out.
[01:06:13]  We're going to have to laboratories that produce stuff for hospitals and over-the-counter and everything else.
[01:06:17]  And as soon as everybody found out the regulators that Walmart sells this under another name and makes claims that ABL has, they've certified.
[01:06:30]  It all went away, didn't it?
[01:06:34]  You didn't see any other articles.
[01:06:35]  It all just stopped Sunday, didn't it?
[01:06:38]  Alex is pretending that he pointed out that Walmart sells silver products, and just like that, everything went away, which is bullshit.
[01:06:44]  There weren't any other stories after March 14th because there wasn't a story.
[01:06:48]  The main story was that the New York Attorney General's office sent Alex a seasoned assist letter.
[01:06:52]  That's the whole story.
[01:06:54]  Follow-up.
[01:06:55]  Letter still sent a couple of days ago.
[01:06:58]  Yeah.
[01:06:59]  So, I mean, that's all that's going on.
[01:07:01]  There's no reason there would be any more stories unless the New York Attorney General takes further action, and you wouldn't expect that to happen so quickly.
[01:07:07]  Yeah, it's perfect for Alex, though.
[01:07:09]  He gets to pretend that the fact that there's no more stories means that he was vindicated.
[01:07:13]  In reality, it doesn't really mean anything.
[01:07:14]  No.
[01:07:15]  And I notice on this show, he's being far more fucking careful.
[01:07:18]  Yeah.
[01:07:19]  I don't know.
[01:07:19]  I think someone might have said it.
[01:07:20]  That's because he won.
[01:07:21]  He won.
[01:07:22]  He's certainly not saying the same things for the most part about his silver.
[01:07:26]  Yeah, that does.
[01:07:26]  He's trying to be real cautious.
[01:07:28]  He's constantly saying, like, this isn't a cure.
[01:07:32]  All right, Alex.
[01:07:33]  You got me.
[01:07:35]  Some lawyer checked you.
[01:07:38]  So it's, you know, there's a hysteria going around.
[01:07:41]  Sure.
[01:07:42]  And apparently it's the mega banks that are doing it.
[01:07:45]  Okay.
[01:07:46]  I'm not entirely sure how that works, but here's Alex explaining.
[01:07:48]  It's the big mega banks and the most powerful Fortune 500 exerting their will to start a stampede in non-essential areas they were running, to have their executives go home, but actually keep all their companies operating, to then cancel some big public events and have governments declare martial law in areas like Europe and China, to then set the precedent to create the hysteria and the fear to have that done here if Trump didn't follow suit, monkey see, monkey do.
[01:08:18]  Sure.
[01:08:19]  And the big thing this will create is unrest in the end.
[01:08:22]  They know within a month we'll be into a depression with this lockdown once it's in place.
[01:08:26]  And they're incrementally putting more in every day.
[01:08:28]  Trump's been bucking it, but trying to give the rhetoric that he's doing this so that he doesn't get the political blame for the death he knows is already coming.
[01:08:36]  He's following a balancing act that we really advise him to cover.
[01:08:40]  He's either listening to us or he came up with the exact same pragmatic system.
[01:08:45]  Because regardless, they're going to hype every event like it's the end of the world.
[01:08:49]  If I understand that clip, Alex is saying that the mega banks are the ones who are creating the hysteria, which involves putting Italy and China into a lockdown in order to force Trump to do the same here.

=== Trump's Giant Coward Defense (02:26) ===

[01:08:58]  Yes.
[01:08:59]  So Trump is fighting against that plan by pretending to go along with it with his rhetoric.
[01:09:03]  He's very smart.
[01:09:04]  Because he's a political coward and doesn't want people to blame him for coming slaves.
[01:09:08]  And Alex thinks that's good leadership.
[01:09:09]  Four-dimensional chess, Stan.
[01:09:11]  This really feels like a wheel spinning.
[01:09:15]  It really just, I don't, I was listening to that and like, I can't even really muster the energy to care about that stupid shit.
[01:09:24]  That's such a weak defense.
[01:09:26]  I know.
[01:09:26]  I'm just amazed that even in his defenses, Trump is a giant coward.
[01:09:31]  Like, Trump is a giant baby.
[01:09:34]  And that's why Alex likes him.
[01:09:36]  He's smart enough to take no blame for the things that he is responsible for.
[01:09:41]  It's not an endorsement of a candidate.
[01:09:43]  The history of books will remember him like Patton.
[01:09:46]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:09:46]  Yeah.
[01:09:47]  When he needed courage, he summoned the will to hide.
[01:09:53]  Great.
[01:09:55]  So Robocop's coming.
[01:09:57]  Oh, okay.
[01:09:57]  This is a corporate strike against the people exercising their power over you to shut down the economy, to shut down the infrastructure, and to drive you into total hysterical fear and submission.
[01:10:14]  And if you pass the test and submit properly, then you are never going to get out of the handcuffs.
[01:10:22]  This is the new world order.
[01:10:23]  This is the technocracy.
[01:10:24]  This is robot drones everywhere barking orders at you.
[01:10:28]  Now becoming autonomous.
[01:10:29]  We're won't even be police controlling them.
[01:10:31]  It'll be the ruling technocrats with their robot armies surveilling and controlling all of the lethal and non-lethal weapons.
[01:10:38]  Honestly, that sounds like a libertarian fantasy.
[01:10:41]  Yeah, I know.
[01:10:42]  To dominate you.
[01:10:43]  This is the complete rollout with digital tattoos out of the skin, microchips, total tracking, absolute domination, absolute total control.
[01:10:53]  Because after all, we can't allow any deaths.
[01:10:56]  We have to get rid of the swimming pools that are more than three feet deep.
[01:10:59]  We have to get rid of diving boards.
[01:11:02]  We have to get rid of dodgeball and chase at the school.
[01:11:05]  Someone might hit their knee.
[01:11:06]  And now they're not even allowed to talk at many recesses or shake hands.

=== Prince's Plan? (05:49) ===

[01:11:10]  We're all being trained to be these jellyfish and stay in our homes and watch the TV screens, and the robots will tend the fields, and the robots will bring us the food, and the robots will enforce it like THX 1138, the actual globalist plan.
[01:11:23]  So that George Lucas movie is the real globalist plan.
[01:11:26]  That was the plan.
[01:11:27]  Great.
[01:11:27]  Yep.
[01:11:28]  So Alex isn't basing this just on movies, though.
[01:11:31]  It does seem like he's basing it just on movies.
[01:11:33]  Uh-uh.
[01:11:34]  Turns out also British royals and maybe even other European countries.
[01:11:39]  Okay.
[01:11:40]  The kings and princes have run their mouths.
[01:11:43]  Oh, no.
[01:11:44]  Well, Queen Elizabeth II's husband, the former SS officer before World War II, his cousin of Foundative Bilderberg group, Prince Bernhard, both shot their mouths off in interviews.
[01:12:02]  You pull them up about how they want to depopulate the planet with a bioweapon.
[01:12:09]  They're in a good place to do it.
[01:12:10]  Prince Albert of Monaco.
[01:12:12]  Well, you guys reprint this for me.
[01:12:13]  It printed blank.
[01:12:14]  Thank you.
[01:12:16]  Prince Albert of Monaco.
[01:12:18]  This is just an MTC newspaper.
[01:12:20]  Alice announces so does Chris Kelly's son.
[01:12:24]  You know, back a few weeks ago, when they said Tom Hanks had it on that weekend, I went live on Sunday and I said, I think this is either made up or it's PR to overshadow Trump's emergency announcement.
[01:12:33]  Yes, he did fake news that ABC News ran.
[01:12:36]  Kings of fake news.
[01:12:38]  And I think this is fake, too.
[01:12:40]  Okay.
[01:12:43]  Awesome.
[01:12:44]  All right.
[01:12:44]  Okay.
[01:12:45]  All right.
[01:12:46]  There's no evidence that Tom Hanks faked Evan Coronavirus.
[01:12:49]  I'm pretty sure he faked it.
[01:12:50]  He was just discharged from the hospital and went to self-isolation back on the 17th.
[01:12:54]  It's fun that Alex is digging his heels in on this one, though, basically saying that all people he doesn't like who test positive are faking it.
[01:13:00]  Is Idris Elba faking it?
[01:13:02]  I don't know.
[01:13:02]  He hasn't commented on that.
[01:13:03]  Okay, well, I want to know.
[01:13:04]  Also, what good does having the Prince of Monaco fake a coronavirus diagnosis?
[01:13:08]  They got to.
[01:13:09]  100% of Alex's audience can't find Monaco on a map and probably didn't even know it existed five minutes ago.
[01:13:16]  Seems like it would be a weird play on the globalists' part.
[01:13:19]  I think that one's fake too.
[01:13:22]  I just love the confidence of just like, hey, I'm going to go with fake on this one, Bob.
[01:13:27]  Sure.
[01:13:28]  So Queen Elizabeth's husband is Prince Philip, and he was never an SS officer.
[01:13:32]  Philip was 18 in 1939 when the war began, so I have no idea how he could have been an SS officer prior to World War II.
[01:13:38]  He was an SS officer whenever he was 14.
[01:13:41]  Makes sense.
[01:13:41]  He was the first SS officer, Dan.
[01:13:43]  Prince Bernhardt, on the other hand, may have been a member of a Nazi group in college.
[01:13:47]  That was claimed in a book, but I have a hard time finding concrete confirmation of it, but it's possible.
[01:13:52]  I don't need a reason to hate royalty.
[01:13:54]  No.
[01:13:54]  Prince Philip didn't run his mouth about wanting to depopulate the world with a bioweapon.
[01:13:58]  Alex is just lying about a quote from the foreword to a 1987 book called If I Were an Animal.
[01:14:04]  This was a book where a hundred or so celebrities answered the question of what animal they would like to be.
[01:14:10]  Prince Philip said, quote, I just wonder what it would like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers that it was at the danger of extinction.
[01:14:20]  What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist?
[01:14:26]  I must confess that I'm tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.
[01:14:31]  That's a little different than running his mouth about wanting to depopulate the world with a bioweapon, but when you're Alex Jones, you're not a big fan of details.
[01:14:39]  I would also like a horse, please.
[01:14:41]  Thank you very much.
[01:14:43]  And I want ice cream.
[01:14:45]  I don't know what quotes Alex is talking about with Prince Bernhard, but I'm just guessing it's a reference to him funding the creation of the World Wildlife Fund.
[01:14:52]  Also, I don't think Bernhard and Philip are cousins, and Bernhard's been dead for 16 years, so who cares?
[01:14:58]  Whatever.
[01:14:59]  Right.
[01:14:59]  So, Alex gets back to the world.
[01:15:05]  I just have this feel that wouldn't most people, even at Alex fans, like listen to this and just go, man, shut up.
[01:15:12]  We'll get back to you in better times, but this is dumb.
[01:15:15]  No, because they don't think it's dumb.
[01:15:17]  I know, but this is dumb.
[01:15:18]  It's very dumb.
[01:15:19]  It's bad.
[01:15:19]  Yeah, it's very dumb.
[01:15:20]  Yeah.
[01:15:21]  And if you listen, like, why doesn't anyone consider everything he talks about is a movie?
[01:15:28]  Yeah.
[01:15:29]  The globalist plan is actually THX 113, and now this next clip he cites two movies.
[01:15:35]  French face fines if they leave home amid coronavirus lockdown as Europe prepares to close external borders.
[01:15:43]  Wait, I thought you said they were going to go to jail.
[01:15:44]  Now they're just going to go find?
[01:15:45]  What is it?
[01:15:46]  Okay.
[01:15:46]  Were you lying before?
[01:15:47]  You set that up?
[01:15:48]  Why are you being like this?
[01:15:50]  So when you go see V for Vendetta, and the young newsgirl is getting home five minutes after dark and the thugs come around her.
[01:16:00]  She says, I'm sorry, I got stuck on the train.
[01:16:04]  They said, you're going to have to pay for this with your body.
[01:16:08]  And then V, of course, takes him out.
[01:16:11]  But you want to live like that?
[01:16:12]  Like Tony Montana says in Scarface.
[01:16:16]  You want to spy on every corner?
[01:16:18]  Alex can't deal with reality except through fiction.
[01:16:21]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:16:22]  That's why he has embraced so fully this fictional worldview and imaginary enemies.
[01:16:26]  I was expecting Clockwork Orange to pop in.
[01:16:29]  I was thinking we would get some droogs going on, but I honestly, I got out of left field there.
[01:16:37]  Got out of left field.
[01:16:38]  Tony Montana.
[01:16:38]  Yeah, Tony Montana.
[01:16:40]  So he has all these movies that are real.

=== Scientific Elite and Bio Threat (15:19) ===

[01:16:43]  And he talks a little bit here about THX 113 being reality.
[01:16:47]  And he veers into how basically science is demons telling people things.
[01:16:52]  That does sound right.
[01:16:53]  And of course, the next thing will be go underground so the virus can't get you.
[01:16:57]  And that's the whole idea of THX 1138 that George Lucas made his first film about with Robert Duvall and a lot of other amazing actors.
[01:17:12]  Brave New World.
[01:17:14]  And then what the scientists and others were talking about at the time, what they wanted to build.
[01:17:18]  And a scientific elite takes humanity underground to protect them from a bio threat.
[01:17:24]  And generations later, we're ruled over by robots and a technotronic elite, the technocrats.
[01:17:30]  And the band Technotronics.
[01:17:32]  That's the plan.
[01:17:33]  It's always been the plan.
[01:17:35]  Since 1856, what happened then?
[01:17:39]  And Sir Francis Galton.
[01:17:41]  Oh, of course.
[01:17:43]  Had a hallucination in history books.
[01:17:46]  So did Darwin, his cousin, Charles Darwin.
[01:17:49]  They were part of a secret government breeding.
[01:17:53]  They ate the shit.
[01:17:54]  The Edgwoods, the Huxleys, the Darwins, brother families.
[01:17:59]  The Blairs were involved a little bit.
[01:18:00]  That's George Arwell later.
[01:18:02]  Linda Blair?
[01:18:03]  And they were breeding the smartest people together in a eugenics experiment, but most of them became mentally ill or crazy.
[01:18:07]  Of course.
[01:18:08]  But then they started having hallucinations, and they were told by aliens how to build all this.
[01:18:17]  This is the online history books.
[01:18:18]  And robots and the double helix and biometrics and everything they were supposed to build.
[01:18:24]  And then they set about with the scientific Royal Academy to build this.
[01:18:28]  And then Eisenhower, 100 years later, 105 years later, 106 years later, officially and warns you about the technotronic scientific elite controlling the military industrial complex was going to do all this.
[01:18:42]  You see, I do see.
[01:18:44]  It all makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
[01:18:45]  It all makes perfect sense.
[01:18:47]  It's really inspired alien demons.
[01:18:50]  Yes.
[01:18:53]  I did not know that was mainline history.
[01:18:54]  Did they change mainline history when I wasn't?
[01:18:56]  Yeah, Bustoke.
[01:18:57]  Is this a Mandela effect?
[01:18:59]  Yeah, I know.
[01:19:00]  Turns out it was Darwins and Or well, was it and they bred humans and uh aliens, and uh, that's mainline history.
[01:19:08]  A bit of that stuff we covered in the endgame uh documentary.
[01:19:12]  There's some of those claims, and you can go back and hear that stuff if you want to there, but this is the sort of stuff that I'm just not even going to really engage with all too much because it's just like, all right, Alex, enjoy.
[01:19:21]  Yeah, science is made by demons.
[01:19:23]  If you think that all science came about because demons contacted hallucinating writers in the 19th century, uh, and that all makes perfect sense, yeah, you and I are just going to be done.
[01:19:37]  I'm not going to bother Francis Galton and Charles Darwin do share a grandfather, though.
[01:19:41]  And they, you know, Galton was a eugenicist.
[01:19:44]  So, I mean, there's some kernels of reality behind stuff you're saying, but like, you know, in 2015, Ben Carson told a crowd at a creationist conference that Darwin's ideas were encouraged by Satan.
[01:19:55]  Yeah.
[01:19:56]  You know, what you need to realize is like, this is all like laughable and stuff, but this is pretty standard, like, extreme Christian creationist talking points.
[01:20:04]  Oh, oh, I know.
[01:20:05]  Yeah.
[01:20:05]  Oh, I'm aware.
[01:20:06]  That's all Alex is doing here.
[01:20:07]  There's a there's a tornado in your junkyard, Dan.
[01:20:10]  So, um, and Alex talks a little bit more about these demons that are inspiring scientists.
[01:20:15]  You know, you're sitting there listening about machine hells when you're six, seven years old at the dinner table, and now the government's got a project talking to the aliens.
[01:20:22]  And, you know, was that what I was listening to?
[01:20:25]  We're talking about running a secret project in San Francisco.
[01:20:29]  So that's what this is.
[01:20:32]  The aliens are working with the globalists to kill everybody.
[01:20:36]  Okay.
[01:20:37]  So, aliens.
[01:20:38]  If you want to tell me that Alex Jones is right about things, you now must explain to me that he is right about aliens working with the globalists to kill humanity.
[01:20:49]  Yeah.
[01:20:50]  Okay.
[01:20:51]  Good luck.
[01:20:52]  All right.
[01:20:52]  Here we go.
[01:20:53]  Here we go.
[01:20:54]  New York Times just recently published that story saying that the Navy and the Pentagon all know about aliens going on, right?
[01:21:01]  So that's proof that aliens are real.
[01:21:04]  Step one: aliens are real.
[01:21:06]  Step two, aliens are communicating with the globalists.
[01:21:10]  The globalists are also, ooh, I have to prove they're real before we can even go anywhere.
[01:21:15]  You got to prove a lot of the oh boy.
[01:21:18]  I don't think I can do this.
[01:21:19]  I don't think I can do this.
[01:21:21]  So, I mean, the way that the globalists talk to these demons, obviously they take DMT.
[01:21:25]  Hallelujah.
[01:21:25]  DMT.
[01:21:26]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:21:26]  So.
[01:21:27]  Is Joe Rogan a globalist?
[01:21:28]  Yeah.
[01:21:29]  Oh, shit.
[01:21:30]  I don't know.
[01:21:31]  Alex isn't clear on what he thinks about Rogue.
[01:21:33]  He says he's Rogan of Darwin.
[01:21:34]  He says that Rogan's inducted into something.
[01:21:37]  I don't fucking know.
[01:21:38]  Who cares?
[01:21:39]  Anyway, DMT, don't take it.
[01:21:41]  I want to.
[01:21:42]  I would not take the DMT.
[01:21:44]  Believe me.
[01:21:46]  Because if you're not deceived, and I don't think they can rope you in, they're going to try to absolutely go watch Buckaroo Bonsai.
[01:21:53]  When the guy goes in the other dimension for a second and then they get him for a minute and he comes back crazy.
[01:21:58]  That's that.
[01:21:58]  Let me tell you, they don't just put that in Hollywood movies because they just thought this up.
[01:22:02]  Okay.
[01:22:03]  Yes, they do.
[01:22:04]  That's how imaginations work.
[01:22:06]  So, guys, try to pull up Buckaroo Bonsai online, even if it's on Netflix, the part where it explains what happens to the mad scientist.
[01:22:14]  Actually, yeah, dude, that's great.
[01:22:18]  They torture a little hell out of him.
[01:22:19]  You want to know what a DMT trip's like?
[01:22:22]  That's what it's like.
[01:22:23]  And let me tell you, it is a trip.
[01:22:24]  You're going somewhere.
[01:22:25]  So don't take it.
[01:22:26]  Then he plays a long clip of Buckaroo Bonsai.
[01:22:29]  So we got RoboCop and Buckaroo Bonsai here, man.
[01:22:32]  Are we going on?
[01:22:33]  CHX113 and Viva Vendetta and Rony Montana.
[01:22:38]  I know, but what's the name of the.
[01:22:39]  What's the name of RoboCop again?
[01:22:41]  He was the star in both RoboCop and in Buckaroo Bonsai.
[01:22:44]  Barbara Weller?
[01:22:44]  Yeah, Peter Wellers.
[01:22:45]  Peter Weller?
[01:22:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:22:47]  Yeah.
[01:22:48]  I think I'm going to have to watch Peter Weller movies now.
[01:22:50]  Also, eagle-eared listeners will remember that back in that Ask Me Anything episode that me and Robert Evans recorded, Alex got one of his questions was, Are you a fan of Buckaroo Bonsai?
[01:23:02]  And he said, no.
[01:23:04]  Bullshit.
[01:23:05]  And I wanted to play that clip, but he's so fucked up that it's really depressing to listen to.
[01:23:08]  I don't want to play it again.
[01:23:09]  Oh, that's sad.
[01:23:10]  Yeah.
[01:23:10]  But yeah, Alex said he wasn't a fan of Bucker Rubanza.
[01:23:13]  He's a lying motherfucker.
[01:23:15]  Right.
[01:23:15]  Disgraceful.
[01:23:16]  Huge Peter Wellers fan.
[01:23:18]  So, Alex, in this next movie, I think he's admitting defeat.
[01:23:23]  This is it.
[01:23:24]  This is martial law.
[01:23:26]  There will be overlooked.
[01:23:27]  There's all different countries, and we better do it or our president's bad.
[01:23:30]  And the American people go, we want martial law.
[01:23:33]  And then you're going to get it for 18 months and never come out.
[01:23:36]  And you're going to get a big fat depression.
[01:23:37]  But don't worry.
[01:23:38]  You're going to learn how to need the government now.
[01:23:40]  And all the big box doors can stay open.
[01:23:42]  You can.
[01:23:44]  Economic takeover.
[01:23:45]  And drones flying around already to tell you what to do.
[01:23:48]  Hope everybody enjoys.
[01:23:51]  We tried to stop it.
[01:23:52]  He has no real suggestions for what should be done alternatively to the measures that are being suggested by states.
[01:23:59]  And like, even if, like, you know, California, it's an extreme measure to like quarantine people, tell people to stay in their houses.
[01:24:07]  Yeah.
[01:24:07]  Shouldn't Alex be fine with it?
[01:24:08]  It's a state.
[01:24:09]  No.
[01:24:09]  It's the governor.
[01:24:10]  No.
[01:24:10]  Okay.
[01:24:11]  Martial law.
[01:24:12]  I don't know.
[01:24:13]  There's no win.
[01:24:14]  No.
[01:24:15]  So Alex takes calls, and this first caller that he gets wants to promote Endgame, the documentary.
[01:24:20]  That's a surprise.
[01:24:21]  In heavy quotes, documentary.
[01:24:22]  Yeah.
[01:24:22]  WhatistheEndgame.com.
[01:24:24]  WhatistheEndgame.com.
[01:24:26]  I think you pointed this out.
[01:24:28]  The Endgame is a road buddy.
[01:24:29]  Is that website R still up?
[01:24:30]  What is the endgame.com?
[01:24:33]  It is still up, actually.
[01:24:34]  Yep.
[01:24:34]  Yeah, it's put in whatisthendgame.com.
[01:24:36]  So that thing we put up 14 years ago, that's still up.
[01:24:39]  Wow.
[01:24:40]  Yeah.
[01:24:41]  And Amazon banned the sale of it.
[01:24:45]  Amazon banned the sale a few months ago.
[01:24:47]  They said it was a racist movie because it's anti-Hedler.
[01:24:51]  I'm not kidding.
[01:24:52]  It's anti-eugenics and global extermination.
[01:24:54]  So you're not allowed to see it.
[01:24:56]  Amazon just took Endgame off Prime, presumably because no one knew it was there to begin with.
[01:25:01]  And then when Avengers Endgame came out, a bunch of people accidentally watched Alex's bullshit and complained.
[01:25:06]  I just went over to Amazon.com.
[01:25:08]  You can buy yourself a nice DVD copy of Endgame for six bucks.
[01:25:11]  So it's clearly not bad.
[01:25:13]  It's there.
[01:25:14]  But everybody's taking it down.
[01:25:16]  And we need to post a copy of the film, I guess, ourselves.
[01:25:20]  Have we ever posted Endgame yet on Mandalville?
[01:25:23]  Because they're taking it down everywhere.
[01:25:25]  They don't want you to.
[01:25:26]  Have any of you seen Endgame?
[01:25:27]  God bless you, Jack.
[01:25:28]  Have any of you?
[01:25:29]  So they're taking it down everywhere.
[01:25:31]  If you search for Endgame Alex Jones on YouTube, you'll find multiple channels that have the film posted.
[01:25:36]  One posted it 10 years ago, another six years ago.
[01:25:39]  There isn't a big rash of people taking Endgame down.
[01:25:41]  It was just Amazon Prime, and it was probably due to customer complaints.
[01:25:44]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:25:45]  Man, that would be such a bummer if you just wanted to watch Avengers Endgame and then it was like, Rhodes!
[01:25:52]  Rhodes are coming to kill us all, Rhodes!
[01:25:55]  I did see one Amazon comment that was like, I was trying to watch Avengers Endgame.
[01:26:01]  Yeah, I could see a lot of people like having that happen, but most of them probably just like, oh, that's weird.
[01:26:06]  All right, I'll find the right one.
[01:26:07]  Next one.
[01:26:08]  Yeah.
[01:26:08]  But some people are going to call Amazon and be like, what the fuck is this?
[01:26:12]  I wonder if some people are going to watch the whole thing.
[01:26:14]  That would be hilarious.
[01:26:15]  I can't imagine.
[01:26:16]  Get to the end of it and be like, I have been red-pilled.
[01:26:19]  Iron Man wasn't in this at all.
[01:26:21]  Yeah, like he's going to show up.
[01:26:23]  I heard he died.
[01:26:24]  I heard he died at the end.
[01:26:25]  Did he die before this movie?
[01:26:27]  I think that Hulk is going to show up.
[01:26:28]  Yeah, I think Hulk is going to take it.
[01:26:30]  That narrator kind of looks like Hulk.
[01:26:33]  He's got a thick neck.
[01:26:36]  Chris Evans is great in Endgame the Documentary.
[01:26:39]  So this next caller says something that is probably counter to the goals of public health.
[01:26:47]  And Alex does not push back on him at all.
[01:26:49]  Another point, I think this whole spread of corona has really blossomed since the test kits have been put out.
[01:26:59]  And I think some of the test kits might actually have, you know, some sort of virus in there or something, you know, toxic, deadly that's you should really share that information with them.
[01:27:13]  That might be why, you know, a lot of people are getting hit harder than others.
[01:27:18]  What?
[01:27:19]  And because they are getting tested?
[01:27:22]  That could be nanotech.
[01:27:24]  I mean, everything's lining up right now.
[01:27:27]  And those are just a few theories.
[01:27:32]  And notice like in war, it all lines up.
[01:27:34]  It all gets beta tested, all gets ready, and then boom, it hits you worldwide at once.
[01:27:38]  You can't let people say shit like that with no evidence, with no backing.
[01:27:43]  You know what?
[01:27:43]  I think I think the test actually is giving people the virus.
[01:27:46]  That is great.
[01:27:48]  You know, because what this is going to do is going to, you know, it has Alex's tacit stamp of approval because he just moves on to the next topic instead of saying, like, sir, that's an irresponsible thing to suggest.
[01:27:59]  So the audience listening to this will internalize a message of, I better not go get tested if I have some sort of symptom.
[01:28:06]  Yep.
[01:28:06]  Like, this is fucking crazy.
[01:28:08]  The test will kill you.
[01:28:10]  The test itself will give you the virus is maybe the most damaging thing that anybody could possibly say.
[01:28:17]  It's super irresponsible.
[01:28:18]  That's insane.
[01:28:19]  Yep.
[01:28:19]  That is, that is.
[01:28:21]  Then it's just like everybody's trying to kill you, dude.
[01:28:24]  Stay inside.
[01:28:25]  Yeah, they are because it's the globalists.
[01:28:26]  They are trying to kill you.
[01:28:27]  Of course.
[01:28:28]  You can see it right there.
[01:28:29]  It's a total economic takeover with U.S. corporations that are really globalist, allied with China, using this to shut us down.
[01:28:36]  And if Trump says it's bull, they'll show the thousands that die every week or so and hype it up that it's his fault.
[01:28:42]  So again, it's the weakness of the average American, the cowardice, the loving to get into a pity party, the wanting to be a victim, the wanting to get a welfare check, the wanting to win the lottery.
[01:28:53]  It's not all Americans, but it's the overall weakness of the average person that has green lit this situation.
[01:29:00]  This fucking dude is talking about weak Americans wanting a pity party and playing the victim.
[01:29:05]  He got a DUI a couple weeks back and claimed that it's Mockingbird CIA that there are articles about it.
[01:29:12]  Go fuck yourself.
[01:29:13]  Yeah, I'm going to call that projection.
[01:29:14]  Yeah.
[01:29:16]  God damn.
[01:29:17]  Just embarrassing.
[01:29:17]  That's so funny.
[01:29:18]  Just embarrassing levels of lack of awareness.
[01:29:21]  Fuck you.
[01:29:22]  So Alex has a guest that comes up now.
[01:29:24]  It's Tim Reams.
[01:29:26]  And this guy, I guess he's ex-military and he was formerly employed by Blackwater.
[01:29:31]  Probably as good a time as any to remember that Alex in 2009 believed that Blackwater were a group of criminal mercenaries.
[01:29:37]  They were.
[01:29:38]  And are.
[01:29:39]  This is one of the bigger turnarounds in Alex's career.
[01:29:41]  The hating Blackwater to employing them as his security and having former Blackwater on his guests.
[01:29:46]  Love him.
[01:29:47]  Tim apparently was also a contestant on a reality show called American Tarzan.
[01:29:51]  That sounds good.
[01:29:52]  Anyway, this guy, he was along with Rob Dew, and he recently went down to the border to see if it's really closed.
[01:29:58]  I have no interest in that segment.
[01:29:59]  It's all just pure xenophobia.
[01:30:01]  But Alex tries to prove to Tim that this virus is man-made.
[01:30:06]  Not that Tim disagrees, but he just uses him as a sort of sounding board to prove.
[01:30:11]  So he just uses two pieces of information that really nailed down that this is man-made.
[01:30:16]  Indian scientist discovers coronavirus engineer with HIV-like insertions that it's got all the actual genes and protein signatures cut into it where they know it was gene edited.
[01:30:28]  Okay?
[01:30:29]  It's like how you know a woman's had a breast job.
[01:30:31]  You see the scars.
[01:30:32]  I mean, it's like ridiculous.
[01:30:34]  Okay.
[01:30:34]  You could ask her.
[01:30:35]  That's just the self-retracted Indian study that Alex is embellishing on.
[01:30:40]  Here's the next one.
[01:30:42]  Lab-made coronavirus triggers debate.
[01:30:44]  This is the scientist journal.
[01:30:46]  Five years ago saying why was Obama giving a weaponized virus to the TRICOMs?
[01:30:51]  And it's almost the same virus minus the HIV slice that they cut into it.
[01:30:55]  Alex is making shit up.
[01:30:56]  If he was forced to actually read that article on air, he would have to admit that it has nothing to do with the debate has nothing to do with Obama selling a fucking virus to China.
[01:31:06]  That is unacceptable.
[01:31:07]  Those are the pieces of information that he's able to pull out when he's trying to demonstrate that the virus is man-made, which tells me he has no evidence of that at all.
[01:31:15]  He is full of shit.
[01:31:16]  Yeah, this is really disheartening.
[01:31:18]  It is.
[01:31:19]  But it gets more disheartening in this last clip from March 19th, and that is Alex promoting tomorrow's show.
[01:31:26]  We've got Ted Nugent's wife on tomorrow to really break her silence about what she thinks is going on.
[01:31:31]  Break her silence?
[01:31:32]  Overtly political other than that.
[01:31:34]  She's a freedom fighter?
[01:31:35]  She's ready to, you know, in her words, her exact words was be bold.
[01:31:42]  All right.
[01:31:42]  Okay.
[01:31:43]  All right.
[01:31:44]  Ted Nugent's wife is finally going to breaking her silence, Dan.

=== Tech Tracking Controversy (05:11) ===

[01:31:47]  On the virus.
[01:31:49]  The world has been clamoring to know what Ted Nugent's wife thinks about all this.
[01:31:54]  Every morning I walk outside and into the sky I scream, Lord, tell me what does Ted Nugent's wife think?
[01:32:03]  And we will learn.
[01:32:05]  So we get to the 20th, and Alex has taken on a very blasé tone about the potential consequences of this virus.
[01:32:13]  Trump is stuck in this balancing act.
[01:32:14]  He knows this is going to kill the economy.
[01:32:16]  He knows they're trying to remove him from office.
[01:32:19]  He knows that they're hyping this up bigger than it is.
[01:32:21]  Yeah, it's going to probably kill tens of thousands of people.
[01:32:24]  Still, we're an Asia, 330 plus million.
[01:32:27]  So it just, that's so minimizing of a very terrible potential outcome.
[01:32:33]  Yeah.
[01:32:33]  That's pretty fucked up.
[01:32:35]  Especially considering, you remember the last time they amped up a story like that?
[01:32:41]  Or Alex, like, I just keep thinking about the migrant caravan over and over and over again.
[01:32:47]  That's them being like.
[01:32:49]  Oh, they're amping.
[01:32:51]  This is hysteria.
[01:32:51]  This is insane.
[01:32:52]  How dare they?
[01:32:53]  They would never make this kind of thing.
[01:32:55]  And it's like, you guys went ape shit over a bunch of people who didn't even fucking jade helm.
[01:33:00]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:33:01]  Like, you guys are insane if you're talking about other people engineering hysteria.
[01:33:07]  Yeah, I mean, certainly I'm more concerned with the fact that he seems to think that tens of thousands of deaths is like no big deal.
[01:33:15]  But that's kind of what he was saying on the last episode, too.
[01:33:17]  Yeah, but this is more overt, more explicit.
[01:33:19]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:33:20]  It makes it more upsetting.
[01:33:21]  Yeah, that is a good point.
[01:33:22]  So this is a globalist takeover.
[01:33:24]  They're trying to teach you to work from home and all that.
[01:33:27]  This is a globalist takeover.
[01:33:28]  Does he have any tips?
[01:33:29]  This is teaching you to work from home, teaching you that you've got to be tracked by a cell phone to go outside.
[01:33:34]  We talked about China a month ago tracking people with their cell phones before they can leave their houses, making them download a government app.
[01:33:43]  Well, now we broke on Monday, DrudgeReport.com picked it up that MIT and Bill and Melinda Gates have a plan to make you wear a bracelet that changes colors and a digital tattoo that you take under the skin that shows you've been inoculated and that they'll track you by your cell phone.
[01:34:03]  So there's really no resource on this Bill Gates stuff other than an article on Infowars whose only source is an anonymous quote cybersecurity white hat government contractor.
[01:34:13]  Suffice it to say that means literally nothing to me and I reject it.
[01:34:16]  No, he's a cybersecurity white hat government contractor.
[01:34:19]  That means he knows what Bill and Melinda Gates are up to.
[01:34:21]  It's not a real person.
[01:34:22]  Okay, well there's a lieutenant colonel.
[01:34:24]  Yeah.
[01:34:25]  So the stuff about the invisible ink tattoo for vaccination records isn't related to the coronavirus outbreak.
[01:34:30]  That was a research project that was taking place at MIT previous to all this, and it did receive some funding from Bill Gates, but that doesn't really prove any of the conclusions Alex is jumping to.
[01:34:40]  This isn't something that's even ready for use.
[01:34:42]  An article in Futurism from December 2019 describes it as, quote, proof of concept, and that, quote, in human cadaver skin models, the patterns outlasted five years of simulated sun exposure.
[01:34:54]  I would assume that if the goal is maintaining some kind of vaccination record, then that's not nearly good enough to achieve that out.
[01:35:00]  No, this may be a ways off from being viable, and it's not approved for use.
[01:35:05]  Also, it's not Bill Gates that wants to use cell phones to track people.
[01:35:09]  According to reporting in the Washington Post from the 19th, quote, in the United States, the White House has been in negotiation with major tech companies, including Google and Facebook, about potentially using aggregated and anonymized location data created by smartphone use.
[01:35:22]  The Washington Post reported on Tuesday.
[01:35:24]  But those efforts have been kept largely from the public.
[01:35:28]  Yeah, that sounds like something that you would want to keep from the public.
[01:35:31]  You know, that mass-scale surveillance program that you definitely haven't already run for.
[01:35:36]  God, I hate these people.
[01:35:38]  That's something Trump is doing.
[01:35:40]  Right.
[01:35:40]  Alex can play all these games he wants where Trump's employees and administration officials who do things that they're not supposed to do, according to Alex, or secret deep state moles.
[01:35:48]  But at a certain point, he's just going to have to face the music that his hero is the villain of his career and he fucking loves him.
[01:35:55]  Yep.
[01:35:55]  So Alex Alex gets to talking more about these bracelets and tattoos.
[01:35:59]  Asia deploys innovative invasive tech to curb virus.
[01:36:04]  And what's it saying?
[01:36:06]  Cell phones to track you, bracelets, digital tattoos.
[01:36:09]  Yahoo news.
[01:36:11]  So Alex is making up the digital tattoos part of that article about Asian use of innovative tech.
[01:36:16]  This is an article from the Japan Times, not Yahoo News, and it's about how China, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore are testing out approaches to medical tracking that might be a little bit invasive.
[01:36:26]  The article is about an app that people can download on their smartphone, which is connected to a bracelet.
[01:36:31]  This is pretty extreme stuff, but from the article, it only references those bracelets being used in the case of people who are subject to compulsory quarantine because they had returned from overseas.
[01:36:41]  That's not to say it's great, but it's not quite as horrendous as Alex is making it out to be.

=== Metaphors and Handcuffs (05:08) ===

[01:36:46]  They're not kicking down doors and slamming bracelets on people.
[01:36:49]  Not according to this article.
[01:36:50]  That's not something that we can prove using this article.
[01:36:52]  Gotcha.
[01:36:53]  And, you know, it's bracelets that make sure people aren't breaching the quarantine that they're dating together.
[01:37:00]  It's a lowjack.
[01:37:02]  Yeah.
[01:37:02]  And again, he's making up the part about the digital tattoos.
[01:37:05]  That's not in this article at all.
[01:37:06]  They just love the mark of the beast shit.
[01:37:08]  Sure.
[01:37:08]  Got to throw that out.
[01:37:09]  Can't get enough of it.
[01:37:09]  Yeah.
[01:37:10]  So Alex gets really into Gavin Newsom, California governor, in this episode on the 20th.
[01:37:17]  And he's talking about how Gavin Newsom did this press conference where he said that there's martial law, it's in place.
[01:37:24]  Right.
[01:37:25]  And it's like he's trying to be smooth about it.
[01:37:27]  So you go along with it, and then you're dead.
[01:37:30]  Right.
[01:37:31]  Right.
[01:37:31]  So Gavin Newsom is our Bill Maher of this episode.
[01:37:34]  I guess.
[01:37:34]  Yeah.
[01:37:34]  And Alex has a gross kidnapping fantasy.
[01:37:37]  He plays out about Gavin.
[01:37:40]  That's awesome.
[01:37:40]  And American psycho, Gavin Newsom, is going to strut around.
[01:37:43]  We come back on a plate five minutes of his press conference where he gets into the martial law.
[01:37:47]  And oh, no, no, no.
[01:37:48]  He says the reporter says, Don't we need total martial law?
[01:37:50]  And he goes, My sweetie, they're socializing, they're accepting it and enforcing it on themselves.
[01:37:56]  Let's not get too hasty.
[01:37:58]  Looks so evil.
[01:37:59]  He goes, We'll get to that very soon because it is martial law.
[01:38:04]  That's the key sense.
[01:38:06]  When you're a kidnapper, let's use the microcosm example, and you try to pick up the 16-year-old girl like you're Ted Bundy.
[01:38:12]  You tell her, Oh, I have a non-threatening yellow Volkswagen.
[01:38:14]  Hey, let's go eat dinner.
[01:38:16]  Let's go drink some beer together.
[01:38:17]  Get in the car with me.
[01:38:18]  Calls a gun out, puts their head, and he says, I'm going to blow your head off unless you put these handcuffs on.
[01:38:23]  It'll be okay to put them on.
[01:38:24]  See, Newsom's just like, put the handcuffs on.
[01:38:26]  This is not the music I want from.
[01:38:27]  I'm going to take you to a nice place and let you out of these.
[01:38:29]  Let me lean you down.
[01:38:30]  Let's put this gag on down these stairs, right into the space.
[01:38:34]  He shows that door and he goes, I'm going to torture you over three days.
[01:38:37]  Jesus, suck your soul.
[01:38:38]  I'll get rid of me to torture the hell out of you.
[01:38:40]  Newsome's like, let's get the handcuffs on.
[01:38:42]  So the first point, and I think this should be probably obvious.
[01:38:45]  Alex is lying about what Governor Newsom said in the press conference.
[01:38:48]  He was saying that martial law is not necessary at this point because people were recognizing there was a public need to act and people were stepping up.
[01:38:54]  We'll play the clip that Alex plays.
[01:38:57]  It's the next clip.
[01:38:58]  So that's all bullshit.
[01:39:00]  But I wanted to talk about Alex's kidnapping metaphor.
[01:39:03]  He loves telling that little story.
[01:39:05]  Like he legitimately does that bit all the time.
[01:39:08]  He talks about a kidnapper threatening to kill you unless you put on handcuffs.
[01:39:11]  And if you put on the handcuffs, you're dead.
[01:39:13]  It's a fine metaphor and all, but I have a different one that might be more appropriate for Alex.
[01:39:18]  I would suggest that this is more like taking your dog to the vet.
[01:39:21]  Your dog is a stupid asshole that doesn't understand medicine, but it still suffers from medical issues.
[01:39:26]  And you know what?
[01:39:27]  That dog's medical issues are going to affect other people and other dogs.
[01:39:32]  You know, whatever, you know, whether it's because you ignore a dog's health and then a problem gets worse to the point where it requires an expensive surgery or because the dog has a condition that can transmit to another dog at the park, that dog has to be taken care of.
[01:39:45]  And it's too fucking stupid to do it on its own.
[01:39:48]  In case you don't get it, Alex is the dog.
[01:39:52]  He'll fight and bark and yowl all the way to the vet, maybe even try to bite you, but it's for his own good and everyone else's own good.
[01:39:58]  My dogs, Jake and Fanny, are not mean, Dan.
[01:40:01]  Or not stupid.
[01:40:02]  How dare you?
[01:40:03]  Yeah.
[01:40:04]  They call me and say, we got to go to the vet, baby.
[01:40:07]  I've seen your dog shit on the wood floor.
[01:40:10]  That's true.
[01:40:10]  That dog's stupid.
[01:40:11]  That is true.
[01:40:12]  I'm not saying that Alex should be put down or forced into a FEMA camp for his own good or anything like that.
[01:40:16]  But when the state is enacting certain measures that are necessary to stop the spread of a very dangerous pandemic, he's the dog in the back seat on the way to a vet.
[01:40:24]  You just need to ignore his stupid, meaningless barking.
[01:40:28]  And that's all this is.
[01:40:29]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:40:30]  So anyway, that's a better metaphor.
[01:40:31]  That's a pretty good one.
[01:40:32]  That's an apt metaphor.
[01:40:33]  That one's for free.
[01:40:34]  Yeah.
[01:40:35]  I don't think he'll be using that one.
[01:40:37]  No.
[01:40:37]  So here is that clip of Gavin Newsome that Alex says that he's trying to put the handcuffs on you.
[01:40:42]  The governors of Illinois and Ohio border the closure.
[01:40:45]  Yeah, well, we could do that easily.
[01:40:48]  Why not exercise your because it's a nuance and a distinction we get caught up in?
[01:40:54]  Because to date, we haven't needed to do that.
[01:40:56]  We've set out guidance.
[01:40:57]  Those guidance, that guidance has been met in every circumstance.
[01:41:00]  And as I said in the past, if you want to establish a framework of martial law, which is ultimate authority and enforcement, we have the capacity to do that.
[01:41:10]  But we are not at this moment feeling that is a necessity.
[01:41:14]  And to the extent that people do not socialize and support this very directive guidance, I would be surprised.
[01:41:21]  And we have all the confidence it will be.
[01:41:23]  That's not him saying put on the handcuffs.
[01:41:26]  That's saying at this point, people are going along with the recommendations.
[01:41:29]  There is no need for us to enforce things necessarily.
[01:41:33]  So great.
[01:41:33]  That's pretty much the complete opposite of what Alex is trying to paint it as.

=== Chloroquine Controversy (08:03) ===

[01:41:38]  Yep.
[01:41:39]  But why?
[01:41:41]  If you are the globalists, why wouldn't you take this opportunity to declare martial law when even the reporter is like, do you think you should declare martial law?
[01:41:51]  Suggesting that it is on the table.
[01:41:53]  He's saying that other states are taking slightly more drastic and enforced measures than the guy's like, we're not declaring martial law.
[01:42:00]  They go far, we haven't needed to.
[01:42:01]  People are going along with things.
[01:42:03]  That doesn't make sense.
[01:42:05]  It's wild to me.
[01:42:06]  The way that Alex portrays something as the exact opposite of what it is.
[01:42:10]  So, Alex, in this March 20th episode, I think that he has discovered the cure for coronavirus.
[01:42:18]  Okay.
[01:42:19]  And then we heard a few weeks ago that chloroquin, an inexpensive malaria drug, is having incredible effects on people if it's caught before it gets too late, even if you're old.
[01:42:33]  And I've got a bunch of articles and studies and reports here on that, but anybody can pull up chloroquin, C-H-L-O-R-A-Q-U-I-N.
[01:42:46]  Didn't even spell it right.
[01:42:47]  Oh, man.
[01:42:48]  Chloroquine works, right?
[01:42:50]  French study finds anti-malaria drug chloroquine may be highly effective against coronavirus.
[01:42:55]  That was days ago, but again, it came out weeks ago.
[01:42:58]  Well, guess what?
[01:43:00]  Chloroquine does, according to the literature.
[01:43:03]  It pushes zinc to the cells.
[01:43:11]  And then when there's zinc in there, the viruses can't replicate in the cells.
[01:43:19]  Isn't that interesting?
[01:43:21]  Just like nano-silver in Jesus Christ.
[01:43:25]  No!
[01:43:26]  You insane person!
[01:43:27]  Values other Homeland Security Congressional reports.
[01:43:31]  The cell so that viruses can't get in.
[01:43:34]  And it also fries them.
[01:43:35]  Paging, the New York Attorney General.
[01:43:38]  He's just too stupid to live.
[01:43:41]  He can't control himself.
[01:43:42]  Can't do it.
[01:43:43]  This dude is nuts.
[01:43:44]  Yeah.
[01:43:45]  So there was a bit of a story that went around over the weekend that I regret to inform you this episode predates.
[01:43:51]  On September, on Saturday, Trump retweeted a tweet that cited a French study claiming to show that hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were effective in treating COVID-19.
[01:44:03]  This led to some scientists chiming in and pointing out that the study itself was very poorly constructed and that the groups that were tested were very small to the point of being inconclusive.
[01:44:12]  And then it got worse.
[01:44:14]  Jared Holt pointed out that the account that Trump retweeted was actually a guy who used to go by the name Mike Toakes, who had a bit of a habit of hanging out with neo-Nazis like baked Alaska.
[01:44:23]  He was even covered in an article in The Guardian about the figures who were putting together that alt-right rally in Portland back in 2017.
[01:44:30]  Can't imagine why he would be in Trump's orbit.
[01:44:33]  And then it got worse.
[01:44:34]  A number of doctors pointed out that advising people to take hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was dangerous, and it could actually result in heart failure.
[01:44:41]  Great.
[01:44:42]  Great.
[01:44:43]  And then it got worse.
[01:44:44]  Why do we have this?
[01:44:46]  Oh, my God.
[01:44:47]  We're all going to.
[01:44:48]  And then it got worse.
[01:44:49]  After Trump's tweet, Bloomberg reported on how in Nigeria there were, quote, two cases of chloroquin poisoning.
[01:44:55]  God damn it.
[01:44:56]  After United States President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus.
[01:45:02]  Oh my God.
[01:45:03]  I was worried that Alex's talk about the drug predated Trump's, but it turns out Trump was talking shit about chloroquin in his White House briefing on Thursday when he lied about it being FDA approved to treat coronavirus.
[01:45:14]  So that's probably what Alex was going off of.
[01:45:16]  Anyway, shit's all the way reckless now.
[01:45:19]  This is I have absolutely no words to describe the level of despair I feel seeing this particular little chapter play out and knowing that it's just a blip on the larger radar.
[01:45:29]  The president lied about the FDA approving a medication for a pandemic, then retweeted a guy named Mike Toaks who hangs out with Nazis, touting an inconclusive study that led to a spike in demand for that medication and at least two overdoses in Nigeria.
[01:45:43]  And it's not that big a story.
[01:45:45]  It's fucked up.
[01:45:46]  I just can't like.
[01:45:56]  Can you imagine if Obama did anything like that?
[01:46:01]  He would be arrested.
[01:46:02]  Federal buildings would be blowing up.
[01:46:04]  Exactly.
[01:46:05]  He would be arrested for murder.
[01:46:07]  It's wow.
[01:46:09]  Unreal.
[01:46:09]  Alex really, you could tell from that clip, he really only brought up the chloroquine in order to sell his own shit.
[01:46:15]  And so he gets into that further.
[01:46:16]  But they don't spray the iodine that much anymore, even though it kills stuff too.
[01:46:20]  Or the alcohol.
[01:46:21]  That's not even hardly used.
[01:46:22]  Stuff everybody uses a hand sanitizer.
[01:46:25]  They are using nano silver from American Biotech Labs, the one that we use.
[01:46:32]  But the toothpaste is sold out, folks, and I'm not advertising it as something that is a treatment or a defense.
[01:46:38]  It's sold as a tooth-whitening toothpaste.
[01:46:40]  But yeah, silver's antibacterial, antiviral.
[01:46:43]  You're doing it again.
[01:46:44]  My teeth went.
[01:46:45]  You can't.
[01:46:46]  What are you doing?
[01:46:47]  Can't stop you in the middle of saying I'm not selling this.
[01:46:51]  I mean, yeah, the active ingredient cures coronavirus, but it's just toothpaste that I'm selling for whitening purposes.
[01:46:57]  Right, right, right.
[01:46:58]  Of course, the ingredients inside of it cure the oh my god, what an idiot.
[01:47:03]  Well, I think he's too defensive about people calling him out for that.
[01:47:06]  And so, like, he can't show ass by just being like, sorry, look, I shouldn't have done that.
[01:47:11]  So, he ends up doing it more.
[01:47:13]  And maybe the New York Attorney General's office will take notice and fine him.
[01:47:17]  I hope so.
[01:47:18]  So, it's not only silver.
[01:47:20]  Alex now has the chloroquin angle.
[01:47:24]  He's like, How can I make money off that?
[01:47:26]  Well, guess what?
[01:47:27]  Has a whole bunch of zinc in it?
[01:47:29]  The real red pill and the real red pill plus.
[01:47:32]  The real red pill plus has natural, healthy stimulant in it.
[01:47:35]  So, Alex only brought up the chloroquin thing because he read the word zinc in some headline about it and realized, hey, I sell zinc.
[01:47:41]  Let's pretend that's related.
[01:47:44]  So, he sells this supplement, the real red pill, that has zinc in it, but that means nothing.
[01:47:48]  A lot of foods have zinc in them.
[01:47:49]  Go eat some beef or baked beans.
[01:47:51]  Oh, but the red pill will actually push the zinc inside your circle.
[01:47:55]  Okay, well, it's theorized, but it's not proven or even a consensus opinion that chloroquine acts as an ionosphere, which allows extra zinc to enter the cells.
[01:48:04]  It doesn't have zinc itself.
[01:48:06]  So, for Alex's promotion here to make sense, he would really be needing to try to sell his audience the real red pill and also say that they should take chloroquin.
[01:48:13]  That's really irresponsible stuff.
[01:48:14]  And you could just see the levels and layers of profiteering Alex is trying to engage in.
[01:48:18]  That's that's really disgraceful.
[01:48:21]  As soon as something becomes relevant, he tries to sell it.
[01:48:24]  If you go to his website, there's a big banner that says, Add a boost of zinc to your daily routine, advertising the real red pill.
[01:48:31]  He knows no bottom to this scam.
[01:48:33]  He will make whatever money he can by jeopardizing his audience's well-being because he doesn't give a single shit.
[01:48:38]  And listen to this: this is just a fucking con man.
[01:48:42]  But my point is: real red pill and real red pill plus, zinc is sold out everywhere, so is vitamin C.
[01:48:49]  It's sold out everywhere.
[01:48:50]  In fact, I have reporters out right now showing multiple stores who're going to report on it.
[01:48:53]  They're just, it's empty.
[01:48:54]  Folks are getting it.
[01:48:56]  Well, guess what?
[01:48:57]  We've got in stock, and I decided I haven't made this announcement yet.
[01:49:00]  I just decided to do not, even though this is going to sell out in just a few weeks, right now it's only 20% off as we speak.
[01:49:09]  It's 50% off.
[01:49:10]  God damn it.
[01:49:11]  It's the opposite of what the globalists do.
[01:49:13]  I don't raise prices in a crisis.
[01:49:14]  I lower them.
[01:49:15]  It's 20% off right now.
[01:49:16]  I said I wouldn't do 50% off in the new year.
[01:49:18]  I haven't done it yet, but I'm doing it now.
[01:49:21]  50% off on real red pills.
[01:49:23]  You can find zinc on Amazon.

=== Diane's Classified Briefing (13:12) ===

[01:49:25]  Pretty, there's a bunch of them.
[01:49:28]  So, as disgusting as that is, that's like he should be tarred and feathered.
[01:49:33]  Like, there needs to be some sort of old-timey group social shaming for this behavior because that is insane.
[01:49:41]  Maybe just everyone boo him all the time.
[01:49:43]  Yeah, all the time.
[01:49:44]  Everyone, you see Alex just boo.
[01:49:46]  Everybody gets one tomato that they have to throw at Alex Jones.
[01:49:50]  So, look, as bad as that is, that's terrible.
[01:49:52]  And let's leave that behind us because, I mean, it's what you expect.
[01:49:56]  Right.
[01:49:57]  Well, I need to know somebody is breaking their silence on something.
[01:50:01]  Well, that's not yet.
[01:50:02]  That's not yet.
[01:50:03]  Because Alex actually has a pretty good position in the insider trading that's happening in Congress.
[01:50:08]  It's bad.
[01:50:09]  Yes.
[01:50:09]  Good.
[01:50:10]  And now we learn Republican and Democrats, including Diane Feinstein, she has a Chinese spy around her office.
[01:50:17]  What?
[01:50:18]  Got a classified briefing on coronavirus and how dire it was.
[01:50:25]  Same intelligence agency saying Trump's a Russian agent.
[01:50:29]  Trump's audiences and gotten rid of all the globalists.
[01:50:32]  And they dumped their stock.
[01:50:36]  And the media, strangely enough, is calling for the Republicans to resign.
[01:50:42]  But not the Democrats.
[01:50:44]  I say every damn one of them.
[01:50:47]  Yes, I agree.
[01:50:50]  Hooray!
[01:50:51]  Classified briefing, and you go dump your stock.
[01:50:53]  It's called insider trading.
[01:50:55]  Yeah, stick a fork in them.
[01:50:58]  They're dubbing.
[01:50:58]  See, oh, don't you know those few Republicans that didn't vote for impeachment?
[01:51:05]  Don't you know now when there's going to be a new impeachment coming up?
[01:51:07]  Oh, you know it's coming for not handling the coronavirus, right?
[01:51:10]  Give it four months when the death's peaking, hundreds of thousands on the high end, 50,000 on the low end.
[01:51:19]  That's my prediction.
[01:51:21]  From the real numbers that, oh, they've got their votes now because the FBI is still controlled by the globalists at the top.
[01:51:31]  Sure.
[01:51:31]  And they'll defer prosecution for insider trading, but you're going to now vote against President Trump.
[01:51:38]  So you can see how all this is coming together.
[01:51:41]  Alex lost me in the middle there.
[01:51:44]  So it turns out that the Republicans caught for insider trading will not be asked to resign.
[01:51:50]  Instead, they'll be blackmailed into impeaching Trump.
[01:51:52]  Yes.
[01:51:53]  Gotcha.
[01:51:53]  And it only takes three Republicans to successfully remove.
[01:51:57]  Is this a Federal Reserve?
[01:51:59]  Alex is iffy on numbers.
[01:52:01]  Is this a Federal Reserve, Dance?
[01:52:02]  So on the one hand, I agree with and applaud Alex for calling for all these people in Congress to be treated equally and resign if this is actually a case of insider trading, which it appears to be.
[01:52:12]  I don't think he'd have that position if one of them was Jim Jordan.
[01:52:16]  Well, but whatever.
[01:52:18]  That's a counterfactual.
[01:52:19]  I can't really prove that that's true, but I bet he would be dead.
[01:52:21]  What you going to do?
[01:52:22]  However, Alex doesn't seem to know who the Republican ones are.
[01:52:26]  And Dianne Feinstein's the only name he even brings up.
[01:52:28]  He also doesn't even seem to know that it's all Republicans and then Diane Feinstein.
[01:52:33]  She was the only Democrat that's been named.
[01:52:35]  But he's trying to make it seem like it's equal.
[01:52:37]  It's like three Republicans and Diane Feinstein.
[01:52:39]  Also, Diane Feinstein, look, the Republicans, look, they're cheaters and traitors and they're awful.
[01:52:44]  But Dianne Feinstein also has a Chinese spy.
[01:52:47]  Democrats are even worse.
[01:52:48]  Right.
[01:52:49]  Also, I don't think I can get down to that blackmail to impeach Trump narrative.
[01:52:53]  I don't think that one's going to work.
[01:52:54]  This show is so goddamn boring now because every conspiracy has to lead to the end point of taking out Trump.
[01:53:00]  It feels like a sitcom that's like in season 10 where the writing is just lazy.
[01:53:04]  Yeah.
[01:53:05]  It's like, come on, can't you just be interesting?
[01:53:07]  Can't be weird.
[01:53:08]  Can't be caught a weird conspiracy.
[01:53:11]  Everything is just like, oh, yeah, secretly trying to take out Trump.
[01:53:14]  Trump is doing a bad job.
[01:53:16]  No.
[01:53:16]  He sucks.
[01:53:17]  Wrong.
[01:53:18]  He's terrible.
[01:53:19]  Wrong.
[01:53:19]  He's the worst.
[01:53:20]  He's actually literally killing people.
[01:53:22]  Nope.
[01:53:23]  Trump is doing a great job.
[01:53:24]  And your show is boring.
[01:53:27]  Trump is doing a great job.
[01:53:29]  All of the stars aligned to just not do this shit anymore.
[01:53:32]  Trump is doing a great job.
[01:53:33]  No, he's not.
[01:53:34]  Yeah, Alex talks about it in this next clip, so I know it's true.
[01:53:36]  Can't be real.
[01:53:37]  Anthony Fauci and all the same ones that run the show.
[01:53:42]  They're the good guys.
[01:53:43]  And Trump gets up and tries to talk the virus down.
[01:53:46]  Fauci saddles up, sidles up, and says, it's all over.
[01:53:51]  Run for the hills.
[01:53:52]  You're all dead.
[01:53:53]  You say that.
[01:53:54]  Trump's always.
[01:53:57]  This is so fucking funny.
[01:53:58]  Alex is so mad at Anthony Fauci because he's not playing along with Trump's stupid games.
[01:54:02]  And he's trying to stay focused on responding like an adult to the crisis that's in front of him.
[01:54:06]  And it's going great.
[01:54:07]  He's behaving like a responsible grown-up.
[01:54:08]  And that's really pissing off Alex because he wants to have fun and yell conspiracies.
[01:54:13]  But because I listened to Alex's show, I remember that Alex only learned who Fauci was back on February 8th when Alex misread a headline and decided to report that Anthony Fauci was coming out at Trump's behest and saying that they believed the virus was man-made.
[01:54:27]  This, of course, was a load of bullshit, but it led to Alex saying this, which is really funny now.
[01:54:32]  Now let's look at the facts.
[01:54:34]  The president, through his medical spokesperson, who's very respected, made a lot of calls about Fauci in the last few months.
[01:54:42]  Or I knew who he was.
[01:54:43]  I say he's very respected, a quote legend.
[01:54:45]  So on February 8th, Alex had looked into Fauci and made some calls, and he's the best, super respected legend.
[01:54:51]  But now he's the deep state.
[01:54:52]  He's the deep state legend.
[01:54:54]  Nothing is real.
[01:54:55]  He's a nightmare, Dan.
[01:54:57]  Nothing is real.
[01:54:58]  And once you accept that nothing is real, it makes you more able to accept that we are about to listen to Ted Newton's wife.
[01:55:06]  Why not?
[01:55:07]  Why not?
[01:55:08]  The world couldn't get any more weird.
[01:55:10]  Why wouldn't I have to listen to Ted Nugent's wife talk?
[01:55:13]  Why not?
[01:55:13]  And you've talked about the coronavirus and what's going on.
[01:55:16]  And I started to do some research in the past month or so, and I started to find out what's really going on, and it scared the crap out of me.
[01:55:26]  So, Ms. Nugent has done some research.
[01:55:29]  She has a Chrome browser, then I assume.
[01:55:33]  Well, I mean, like, you know, you would maybe assume that his wife isn't maybe the best source of research about the coronavirus.
[01:55:42]  I always understood her to be a thorough researcher.
[01:55:44]  Alex has something you need to know.
[01:55:46]  Okay.
[01:55:46]  Well, I respect you as a researcher.
[01:55:48]  I've learned a lot from you on the medical field.
[01:55:50]  You know, the Christian side of me, you're really a respected expert on that.
[01:55:53]  From your deep research, what do you really think this virus is?
[01:55:57]  Where do you think it's coming from?
[01:55:58]  What do you think is going to happen?
[01:56:00]  I don't know if Shimaine Nugent is a respected name in the field of research or anything like that.
[01:56:05]  I think she's mostly relevant because she's Ted's wife.
[01:56:08]  I went to her website and apparently she's into Zumba.
[01:56:10]  And some years back, she got sick because of toxic mold in her walls, which encouraged her to get into alternative medicine.
[01:56:16]  Anthony Fauci basically has the same resume.
[01:56:18]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:56:19]  I mean, you could listen to the deep state or you could listen to the Zumba instructor.
[01:56:24]  One big red flag on her website for me was her educational record.
[01:56:28]  She has a bachelor's in radio, TV, and film, which checks out because she met Ted when she was working at a Detroit radio station.
[01:56:34]  She also claims to have a master's in metaphysics, which is a more master's in metaphysics.
[01:56:40]  Yeah.
[01:56:40]  Okay.
[01:56:40]  I noticed that she doesn't say where either of these degrees are from because probably the metaphysics degree is from some scammy diploma, though.
[01:56:49]  Real accredited universities do not offer degrees in metaphysics.
[01:56:52]  When someone has a degree in metaphysics on the resume, particularly when their other educational background isn't in some other solid form of philosophy or maybe theology, it's a major sign that they have a fake degree.
[01:57:04]  Metaphysics is a real branch of philosophy, but it's not something universities give degrees in.
[01:57:08]  It's the same thing with most branches of philosophy.
[01:57:12]  Like, if I had pursued a philosophy major instead of a minor in college, I would have a bachelor's degree in philosophy, not in logic.
[01:57:19]  It would include you could say you have an emphasis in logic or something like that, but you wouldn't have a degree in logic.
[01:57:26]  No.
[01:57:26]  She's written three books.
[01:57:28]  One is called Kill It and Grill It, which is a wild game cookbook she wrote with Ted.
[01:57:31]  A very respected researcher, Dan.
[01:57:35]  Another is called Married to a Rock Star, which is about being married to Ted.
[01:57:38]  What better research is there for a book like that than actually marrying a rock star?
[01:57:42]  The third is called Four Minutes a Day: Rock and Roll Your Way to Happy.
[01:57:45]  See?
[01:57:46]  Which seems to be also still cashing in on being married to a famous rock.
[01:57:50]  Four minutes is all you need to do good research.
[01:57:52]  She's also currently making a documentary called Killer House, which is about toxic mold.
[01:57:56]  Also, in 2013, she was arrested for having a.38-caliber handgun in her carry-on bag when she tried to board a plane in Dallas.
[01:58:03]  Sure.
[01:58:04]  According to Gawker, the gun was loaded, but Shimaine claimed that she had no idea it was in her bag.
[01:58:09]  Nothing says responsible gun ownership than not knowing where your loaded gun is.
[01:58:14]  That's the games that Ted and Shimaine like to play with each other.
[01:58:17]  You know, like, oh, are you leaving the country?
[01:58:19]  Perhaps international travel?
[01:58:21]  I'm just going to sneak a little loaded weapon into your luggage.
[01:58:25]  I can find no evidence that she should be treated as an expert in anything, nor should her research into the coronavirus be taken seriously at all.
[01:58:31]  But she needs some googling.
[01:58:33]  Married to Alex's weird pervert hero, Ted Nugent.
[01:58:36]  So she's basically the head of the CDC.
[01:58:38]  That's great.
[01:58:40]  I just, I just, we live in strange times, Dan.
[01:58:43]  Yeah, we live in strange times.
[01:58:44]  So, you know, there's some theories going around that, you know, the virus is a cover for Trump to mop up the deep state.
[01:58:54]  Why would those theories be going?
[01:58:56]  Alex suggests that, and Shimaine agrees.
[01:58:59]  So I see them trying to use the virus against Trump, saying it's his fault, but at the same time, it's also an opportunity for Trump to mop up the deep state.
[01:59:06]  So I think both sides are trying to use it right now.
[01:59:08]  What do you think?
[01:59:10]  Yeah, I totally agree, but I think Trump is one step ahead of them.
[01:59:14]  And obviously, this is a preordained evolution.
[01:59:21]  This is unlike anything we've ever experienced before to biblical proportions.
[01:59:26]  Yeah, there we go.
[01:59:27]  All had to unravel the way that it's unraveled.
[01:59:30]  What's really weird is there's a lot of talk and vague insinuations of this being sort of biblical.
[01:59:36]  And, you know, that.
[01:59:37]  Why aren't they bringing up the locusts?
[01:59:40]  Like, they never bring up the locusts.
[01:59:42]  The locusts are too real.
[01:59:45]  They're like, they're trying to pitch this like this is revelations.
[01:59:48]  There's a plague.
[01:59:49]  Like, why not bring up the fact that there's also locusts?
[01:59:52]  Because that's too real.
[01:59:55]  Every time I read that news, I swear to God, I've read that same news like 30 times.
[02:00:00]  And every time I immediately forget it because I'm like, no, I just refuse to believe that there's locusts.
[02:00:06]  I refuse to believe there's a plague of locusts right now, Dan.
[02:00:09]  Dan, there's a plague of locusts right now.
[02:00:11]  You would think that it fits right in with their rhetoric.
[02:00:14]  It does.
[02:00:15]  It's conspicuous in its absence.
[02:00:17]  But that's because it's almost too on the nose.
[02:00:20]  Maybe.
[02:00:21]  So Alex talking about the mopping up the deep state thing.
[02:00:25]  That's a QAnon thing.
[02:00:26]  That is definitely one of the narratives that's put out by QAnon.
[02:00:30]  And guess what?
[02:00:31]  Shimaine likes QAnon.
[02:00:33]  Of course.
[02:00:33]  I know what you're trying to get me to say.
[02:00:37]  I do believe that there is an orchestrated group of individuals that some people have called Q who have been dropping breadcrumbs, so to speak, for those of us.
[02:00:50]  And the information is available online.
[02:00:52]  I have told my people to do the research for themselves.
[02:00:55]  Stop calling it research.
[02:00:56]  Q Anon.
[02:00:57]  And to do due diligence for themselves.
[02:01:01]  Let's talk about it with Shimon.
[02:01:03]  Stay right there.
[02:01:04]  We'll be back.
[02:01:05]  So Alex rushes out to break.
[02:01:07]  And what do you know?
[02:01:08]  They don't come back to the state.
[02:01:09]  Oh, they don't come back to Q stuff?
[02:01:10]  No.
[02:01:11]  Oh, man.
[02:01:12]  But Shimaine does try to get Alex to do a breathing exercise, which is kind of funny.
[02:01:18]  Alex, if you don't mind, I would like to do something here with you live that you've probably never done before on your show.
[02:01:26]  Remove a chip from a homeless man.
[02:01:27]  Do you want to try it?
[02:01:28]  Is it called breathing?
[02:01:32]  I want you to take a deep breath.
[02:01:34]  And when you breathe in, silently count to four.
[02:01:37]  Ready?
[02:01:37]  Do it with me.
[02:01:38]  Ready?
[02:01:43]  You're not doing that.
[02:01:46]  I counted to four.
[02:01:47]  Good.
[02:01:48]  Good.
[02:01:48]  All right.
[02:01:49]  See how I guessed what you were going to say?
[02:01:52]  Great mind.
[02:01:54]  You know what?
[02:01:55]  You know what, Alex?
[02:01:56]  Here's the thing.
[02:01:58]  We don't really know for sure what's going to unravel and when, and we're all getting breadcrumbs and bits of pieces of information.
[02:02:04]  Breadcrumbs again.
[02:02:06]  More QAnon language.
[02:02:07]  Yep.
[02:02:08]  So anyway, she's super into QAnon.
[02:02:10]  Their interview is pointless.
[02:02:12]  Yeah.
[02:02:12]  And Alex, you can tell, kind of like, isn't really all that interested because if he asks too many questions, it's going to get into her promoting Q.
[02:02:20]  And he has a stated position of hating Q, which he said earlier in the episode or on the day before, and pretty consistently.

=== Philip K. Dick's Vision (05:14) ===

[02:02:27]  So he doesn't want to yell and make fun of Ted Nugent's wife.
[02:02:31]  He needs to keep Ted Nugent his friend.
[02:02:33]  So he keeps being like, oh, I hear maybe Ted's going to drop in.
[02:02:36]  Jesus.
[02:02:36]  So then Ted shows up.
[02:02:38]  Of course he does.
[02:02:38]  They talk about how great it is to live in the woods.
[02:02:41]  Who cares?
[02:02:42]  Okay.
[02:02:42]  Anyway, Alex ends this interview.
[02:02:44]  They get done.
[02:02:45]  It's like an hour of talking.
[02:02:47]  That can't be real.
[02:02:47]  The Nugents.
[02:02:48]  That can't be real.
[02:02:49]  Yeah.
[02:02:51]  Why aren't they on Fox News right now, Dan?
[02:02:54]  I want the world to know what the nuge thinks.
[02:02:57]  They might be.
[02:02:57]  That's actually.
[02:02:58]  Oh, God, you're right.
[02:02:59]  So, anyway, Alex gets into Weird Headspace after the interview.
[02:03:02]  Naturally.
[02:03:03]  And he somehow comes about, he starts talking about the movie Rollerball.
[02:03:08]  Sure.
[02:03:10]  And so now Rollerball is real.
[02:03:12]  I love it.
[02:03:12]  So globalism was about being able to choke countries off because everybody was interdependent.
[02:03:18]  Hell, they made an incredible movie back in the 70s with James Kahn, Rollerblade.
[02:03:23]  Rollerblade.
[02:03:25]  And I remember being like eight years old, watching it when it was on TV in like the early 80s.
[02:03:31]  And my dad going, read this as a brick new Brzezinski book when you get old enough, son.
[02:03:35]  This movie's about what they plan to set up.
[02:03:38]  So you got a bad dad.
[02:03:40]  You got a bad dad.
[02:03:41]  You got to get rid of that dad.
[02:03:42]  Get a new one.
[02:03:43]  Get a new one.
[02:03:44]  Call someone right now.
[02:03:45]  Hey, eight-year-old son, Rollerball is real.
[02:03:50]  Uh-oh.
[02:03:51]  Hey, eight-year-old son.
[02:03:53]  I got a Brzezinski book for you to read.
[02:03:55]  Yep.
[02:03:56]  But this isn't a stray thought.
[02:03:57]  Alex really legitimately seems to think that in the same way THX113 is real, so is Rollerball.
[02:04:02]  Of course.
[02:04:03]  But if you go back to Rollerball, James Kahn is this world-famous superstar top rollerballer.
[02:04:10]  He won't quit.
[02:04:11]  He's supposed to get defeated in the end.
[02:04:12]  He's supposed to be torn down.
[02:04:13]  The corporates even take his wife.
[02:04:15]  They have that power, like a lord of old, primanoctu to take your wife or your daughter from you.
[02:04:21]  And he goes to try to find files about how the corporations took over, and there's this one big mainframe liquid computer.
[02:04:29]  And he goes to the computer.
[02:04:35]  And they've gotten rid of all the books.
[02:04:38]  They've gotten rid of everything.
[02:04:39]  But for a while, everything was available on this worldwide computer system called the internet to the movie.
[02:04:46]  But once it all went onto one AI computer, it began to erase everything.
[02:04:52]  Ooh.
[02:04:53]  That sounds like a good plot of a movie.
[02:04:56]  He goes, Yes, he categorizes things and then he loses them.
[02:05:00]  And you see, once everything's on the cloud, notice everything's getting lost now.
[02:05:04]  Yes.
[02:05:05]  Yeah.
[02:05:05]  Back this up with audio.
[02:05:06]  Back it up.
[02:05:07]  I want to play this for people because they're telling you everything.
[02:05:10]  Here, here it is.
[02:05:11]  Play it.
[02:05:12]  Oh, God.
[02:05:13]  So many movies.
[02:05:14]  He's playing a clip from Rollerball.
[02:05:16]  Yes.
[02:05:16]  And he's asking them to back it up with audio just in case the cloud loses it.
[02:05:21]  No, no, no, no.
[02:05:22]  Back it up.
[02:05:22]  Like, rewind it.
[02:05:23]  Oh, okay.
[02:05:24]  Okay.
[02:05:24]  I thought he was like.
[02:05:26]  No, no, no.
[02:05:27]  I genuinely thought he was like, we need a physical copy of this.
[02:05:30]  That's a fair reading of the context of what he's saying.
[02:05:33]  I mean, this is like, what, maybe the eighth movie that he's cited as real?
[02:05:38]  I'm writing down movie titles that I think might come up later.
[02:05:42]  I got Logan's Run going on there.
[02:05:44]  He does meant.
[02:05:45]  No, is it Logan's Run?
[02:05:47]  I can't remember.
[02:05:47]  I think Blade Runner.
[02:05:49]  Blade Runner.
[02:05:49]  Okay.
[02:05:50]  That's a good one.
[02:05:50]  Yeah.
[02:05:51]  Harrison Ford is a replicant.
[02:05:53]  Anything that's adjacent to Philip K. Dick or short stories probably is going to be real.
[02:05:58]  I wrote down Running Man, but I don't think he would reference that one.
[02:06:01]  He has many times.
[02:06:01]  Has he?
[02:06:02]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:06:02]  Okay.
[02:06:02]  I thought he would just hate Arnold Schwarzenegger.
[02:06:04]  No, no, not Running Man.
[02:06:05]  I'm thinking of Total Recall.
[02:06:07]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:06:08]  Okay.
[02:06:08]  Total Recall is a good one.
[02:06:09]  We talked about Running Man.
[02:06:11]  I think Running Man is probably a better one for that.
[02:06:14]  Oh, hell yeah.
[02:06:15]  Rolling Sports.
[02:06:18]  Hell yeah.
[02:06:19]  I can't wait.
[02:06:20]  I fucking can't wait for him to run out of Philip K. Dick-related movies.
[02:06:25]  He's just like, you know what?
[02:06:26]  Hey, the Adjustment Bureau.
[02:06:30]  How far do you think we're going to go?
[02:06:33]  Elizabeth, you see someone with a hat.
[02:06:35]  All right, look out.
[02:06:36]  Now, okay.
[02:06:37]  Hear me out.
[02:06:38]  People with hats go through doors.
[02:06:39]  I know people didn't like the movie Bright starring Will Smith, but hear me out.
[02:06:43]  It's going to happen.
[02:06:44]  It's a Philip K. Dick thing?
[02:06:45]  No.
[02:06:46]  You ruined the game.
[02:06:47]  Yeah.
[02:06:47]  Supposed to be Philip K. Dick stuff.
[02:06:50]  So Alex wants to take some calls towards the end of this 20th episode, and he puts out the call for a specific sort of caller.
[02:06:58]  I'm going to go to your calls quickly as I know you're busy.
[02:07:00]  He's not.
[02:07:01]  You have specific information from the National Guard, Northcom, Space Command, Central Command, Army Special Operations, Threat Fusion Centers, State Police, on what you've been prepped and ready for.
[02:07:20]  Also, Ted Nugent's wife.
[02:07:21]  What you've been told, I want you to call him.

=== Strains Of Disinformation (07:55) ===

[02:07:24]  We'll talk about it.
[02:07:25]  So Alex puts out that call for callers from high-intel areas because he wants to hear what they're hearing.
[02:07:31]  That's great, but I highly doubt anyone in those areas is likely to call in and even less likely to disseminate private information on Alex's dumb show.
[02:07:38]  What this is, it's not actually a plea for intelligence people in the audience to call in.
[02:07:43]  In function, this is Alex signaling to the audience that if they call in and claim to be intelligence, he's going to let them.
[02:07:50]  He won't question them and is willing to take at face value all the information the audience might present as appearing official.
[02:07:55]  Basically, what he's doing is establishing an improv game.
[02:07:59]  He's inviting people to LARP with him.
[02:08:00]  Yes.
[02:08:01]  That is it.
[02:08:02]  It's the first line in an improv series.
[02:08:05]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:08:06]  Anyway, he doesn't get to calls for a while because he's not getting any calls.
[02:08:10]  Well, that might be, or maybe he's just bad at it, which we've seen plenty of evidence for.
[02:08:16]  That's true.
[02:08:16]  So he starts rambling more lies about the virus.
[02:08:19]  If you're just an average person and under 70 and aren't sick, you're not going to have a big problem.
[02:08:22]  But if you're exposed to the different variants of it, there's at least two different strains.
[02:08:27]  One is super deadly compared to the other, but is only on surfaces.
[02:08:31]  The other is not very dangerous and it's airborne.
[02:08:34]  Still, you got to worry about the medical workers and the police, the military, and the rest of it.
[02:08:39]  So on our last episode, we heard Alex claiming that there were 10 strains of the virus.
[02:08:43]  And now there's just two that he's talking about.
[02:08:45]  Seems weird.
[02:08:46]  Maybe 10 numbers or something he made up because he was rambling and talking shit.
[02:08:50]  Speaking of talking shit, this stuff he's saying about two strains is not something that is a scientific consensus.
[02:08:55]  There is preliminary research that suggests that there's what's called the S strain, which is the ancestral strain, the original one that jumped from human, from animal to human, which at some point mutated into the L strain, which appears to be better adapted to jump from human to human.
[02:09:10]  When it's called the more aggressive strain, this is a reference to its ability to transmit from person to person, not because it causes a more severe illness.
[02:09:18]  The Guardian reported on March 11th that, quote, it is not yet clear whether the two strains cause different severity of disease.
[02:09:25]  Alex has heard a few words like more aggressive and two strains, and he's just creating a story out of that that fits his needs.
[02:09:32]  Whether or not studies do eventually show that there are in fact two distinct strains of the virus and that one causes a more severe illness, it doesn't matter.
[02:09:40]  Right now, Alex is just making shit up.
[02:09:42]  It feels a little bit like our language itself is at fault for so much disinformation.
[02:09:51]  When you say, oh, it's aggressive, for epidemiologists, that means one thing.
[02:09:57]  And for people who aren't epidemiologists, that seems to mean a completely different thing to them.
[02:10:02]  Well, they interpret it in a way that's not.
[02:10:03]  The perfect example is every single time Alex uses a headline.
[02:10:06]  Yeah, exactly.
[02:10:06]  That article from 2015 about the gain of function study on a coronavirus causing debate is a perfectly accurate headline.
[02:10:15]  Right.
[02:10:16]  But it also, when Alex lies about it, it perfectly fits his propaganda narrative.
[02:10:20]  Yeah, it's almost like they should have to make up complete random nonsense words in order to describe something.
[02:10:27]  Like, instead of calling it a gain of function, it's a flip-flop.
[02:10:30]  Like, that's the only way that people won't confuse it for bullshit.
[02:10:34]  Don't feel like it's the experts' responsibility to adapt their behavior to propaganda.
[02:10:40]  It shouldn't be.
[02:10:41]  Wow, fair enough.
[02:10:42]  So, Alex, I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just him selling his zinc, which he's pushing a bit now.
[02:10:48]  Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:10:50]  But Alex is kind of mad that the media is saying there's going to be a lot of deaths.
[02:10:56]  He just said there was going to be a lot of deaths.
[02:10:58]  You might believe that, yes.
[02:10:59]  Because he said he played it, it didn't get lost in the cloud.
[02:11:03]  The AI didn't steal that clip.
[02:11:04]  No, rollerball.
[02:11:06]  You still played it.
[02:11:07]  Rollerball.
[02:11:08]  If this changes a thousand people died, it's going to be the end of the world with a hysteria.
[02:11:11]  Hell, one person's sick in a town.
[02:11:13]  Everyone runs in fear.
[02:11:15]  And some estimates are in the hundreds of thousands.
[02:11:17]  The media and press conferences say 3 million.
[02:11:19]  There's no evidence of that.
[02:11:20]  The number keeps going down and down.
[02:11:22]  So the media isn't saying there's going to be 3 million deaths in the United States from coronavirus.
[02:11:26]  They're covering a March 16th report from Imperial College that estimated that if literally nothing was done, it could result in 2.2 million deaths in the United States and 510,000 in the United Kingdom.
[02:11:38]  The report prefaces this prediction by saying, quote, in the unlikely absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behavior, so that's kind of the setup.
[02:11:47]  It's the unlikely nothing is done.
[02:11:50]  Alex and Mike Adams have misused Imperial College estimates in the past.
[02:11:54]  They're talking about 50,000 new cases a day in China.
[02:11:57]  So they should be totally on board for this, except now he's trying to downplay the virus or something.
[02:12:03]  So it's kind of just the media is being hysterical.
[02:12:06]  But unfortunately, I listened to Alex's show.
[02:12:09]  The Pentagon believes with the numbers they have that they could have up to 3 million dead people in the next six months here in the United States from the coronavirus.
[02:12:21]  Well, if you infect half of America, which is pretty typical for a flu, 2% comes out to roughly 3.3 million dead Americans.
[02:12:30]  I mean, I might have an Army lieutenant colonel in my house once a year or something, just on some other business that I was doing and taking care of.
[02:12:38]  This guy retired about a year ago.
[02:12:39]  He's there.
[02:12:40]  I had to leave to work.
[02:12:41]  He's in there having coffee with my wife.
[02:12:43]  She calls me and says, hey, I don't want to travel anymore.
[02:12:45]  He's saying the Pentagon thinks 3 million are going to die.
[02:12:48]  They're going to kill you and your family.
[02:12:50]  And most of us are already dead.
[02:12:53]  We'll all be getting cancer soon.
[02:12:54]  We'll all be sterile soon.
[02:12:56]  It's over.
[02:12:57]  In my assessment, the bulk of the human race will not survive this.
[02:13:00]  Now, there can be lone survivors or small groups of survivors.
[02:13:04]  And I think that that's the strategy we have to get to.
[02:13:07]  It's CPAs, man.
[02:13:11]  There will only be lone survivors.
[02:13:13]  I decided that my new signature bit is no.
[02:13:17]  Anytime I have a supercut of something, I got to throw in something completely unrelated just for fun.
[02:13:23]  So don't call the media hysterical for talking about this 3 million thing when that was your bread and butter.
[02:13:29]  Yeah.
[02:13:29]  You dick.
[02:13:30]  This is abuse.
[02:13:32]  Yeah, I feel abused.
[02:13:33]  This show is fucking nothing is real.
[02:13:37]  No, of course not.
[02:13:38]  Not even from day to day, from hour to hour.
[02:13:41]  Important thing, though, Jordan.
[02:13:43]  Don't panic.
[02:13:43]  Oh, okay.
[02:13:44]  Listen, listen, listen.
[02:13:45]  If we lost a million.
[02:13:46]  We were in the Civil War back when our population was 20% of what it is now.
[02:13:50]  If we lost a million and don't panic about it, it's sad.
[02:13:53]  It's not good.
[02:13:54]  But if you have a Great Depression, you can pull up the university studies.
[02:13:58]  7 million, pull up the articles.
[02:14:00]  University studies, 7 million starved to death from malnutrition, Great Depression.
[02:14:05]  7 million people in the 10-year Great Depression or 11-year Great Depression ended up starving to death, they estimate.
[02:14:13]  So if the whole society collapses, that is not good.
[02:14:19]  And the food's going to run out.
[02:14:21]  So again, it's like where you get startled and then fall down the stairs and break your neck because your wife says, hey, honey, and you fall down the stairs and break your neck or have a heart attack.
[02:14:31]  And I see that's what is unfolding.
[02:14:33]  And it's just the getting into it and the hysteria and the fear.
[02:14:38]  This is so wild.
[02:14:39]  So, anyway, he brings back up the 7 million died of starvation during the, and he has the board operators try to find a citation for him.
[02:14:49]  And look what happens.
[02:14:50]  Yeah, there it is.
[02:14:51]  Famine killed 7 million people in the USA.
[02:14:54]  And that's pravda.russia.
[02:14:57]  In the old days, you couldn't believe Pravda, but I don't even believe it because it's in mainstream media.
[02:15:01]  But I read that.
[02:15:02]  I think it was the University of Chicago.

=== Bump Stocks and Liberties (12:48) ===

[02:15:04]  Sure.
[02:15:06]  But there you go.
[02:15:07]  No, you didn't.
[02:15:09]  No, you didn't read it from a University of Chicago study.
[02:15:12]  Oh, fuck.
[02:15:13]  Pravda.
[02:15:14]  Or maybe not.
[02:15:16]  Just some other source of Boris Borisov's claims.
[02:15:19]  You know how people know about how many people who starved to death in Russia?
[02:15:26]  You know how we know about it?
[02:15:28]  It's a very famous thing that we know.
[02:15:31]  Right.
[02:15:31]  Because it's historically.
[02:15:32]  And it's something that Alex has yelled about a bunch of times.
[02:15:34]  Right, right, right, right.
[02:15:35]  Now, don't you think that if a similar number of people had starved to death here, we wouldn't be just finding out about it from Alex Jones?
[02:15:44]  Pretty sure that would be a thing that we are taught as the globalists.
[02:15:48]  Oh, okay.
[02:15:49]  Never mind.
[02:15:49]  Rollerball.
[02:15:50]  I take it back.
[02:15:52]  So Alex goes to some calls and gets taken back for me.
[02:15:56]  He gets a caller that wants to give him an advertising strategy and how to Alex, I'd like to help you commit a crime.
[02:16:06]  I'd like to help you market your brand in this time of difficulty.
[02:16:10]  Thanks so much for taking my call.
[02:16:12]  Real quick, I want to tell all your viewers to do what I've done.
[02:16:15]  And that's I took $10.
[02:16:17]  I got a yard sign and a can of spray paint and some stencils.
[02:16:20]  I have COVID-19 is 1984 on one sign and InfoWars.com on the other.
[02:16:26]  So to all your viewers, we've got to spread the message.
[02:16:29]  Listen, I'll hold you over so you have more time, but I've been thinking about having callers come in with a t-shirt or a bumper sticker or just something we ask everybody to do.
[02:16:37]  I need to steal ideas to describe it.
[02:16:38]  And yes, I don't have it.
[02:16:41]  COVID-19 equals 1984.
[02:16:43]  You just nailed it.
[02:16:44]  You're going to get people.
[02:16:45]  Oh, my God.
[02:16:46]  So another caller calls in later and he's like, you were close on that one, but it should be COVID-19.
[02:16:53]  Good punch-up, buddy.
[02:16:54]  Good punch-up.
[02:16:57]  The answer to 1984 is COVID-19.
[02:17:03]  Look, I hate the caller who did punch up a little less because at least that was a good suggestion.
[02:17:08]  Yeah.
[02:17:10]  If we're in the realm where we're talking about that sign, that is a better sign.
[02:17:13]  That is a better sign.
[02:17:14]  That is a better sign.
[02:17:15]  So this caller, because he's given Alex a marketing opportunity, he's got a job.
[02:17:21]  Well, he at least gets to say something stupid.
[02:17:23]  He gets to hang online until he gets to give a completely baseless theory that makes no sense.
[02:17:28]  Got one more major point.
[02:17:31]  Do you remember the Las Vegas shooting back in October of 17?
[02:17:36]  Yes, I do.
[02:17:37]  Okay, if you remember, Trump banned bump stocks after that.
[02:17:41]  It went into effect in March of 19.
[02:17:44]  And then we started learning, the CDC started hiring in November of 19 off for all this quarantine officers.
[02:17:52]  So it's all connected, Alex, because they didn't want you to be able to get bump stocks to prepare for the martial law.
[02:18:00]  Well, I know this.
[02:18:02]  This country is in a fight for its very future.
[02:18:04]  The president's surrounded by people that want to delete his policies.
[02:18:07]  Ah, yes, bump stocks, the crucial element of surviving this coming tyranny.
[02:18:12]  Well, I know this.
[02:18:17]  Alex, just shut up.
[02:18:19]  I would love for there just to become like a moment where Alex has a break and he's just like, listen, that's stupid.
[02:18:28]  We're trying to create panic and we're trying to, you know, I love all this fear.
[02:18:33]  Great.
[02:18:33]  I love conspiracies.
[02:18:35]  I would love anything that gives a different narrative about the Las Vegas shooting, but that's dumb.
[02:18:40]  That is dumb.
[02:18:41]  You are.
[02:18:42]  Come on, man.
[02:18:43]  Yeah, you want him to have that happy or the Billy Madison moment of just like, if you, sir, have wasted everybody's time and may God have mercy on your soul.
[02:18:53]  That kind of thing.
[02:18:53]  Yeah.
[02:18:54]  Or even like I've listened to a number of episodes of Bill Cooper's show where he talks to callers and he's like, You have no proof for that.
[02:18:59]  Like, he will just push back on people.
[02:19:01]  I want Alex.
[02:19:02]  I know that he'd never do it because it would hurt his ability to keep people in the fold and sell them stupid shit.
[02:19:08]  Yeah.
[02:19:08]  But like, I would love it if he would just tee off on some of these assholes because they're so dumb.
[02:19:14]  I'm not, I'm not, I don't hate them because they're dumb.
[02:19:17]  No, just these things that they're saying, some of them are like legitimately publicly dangerous.
[02:19:22]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:19:23]  And some of them are just like, oh, this would be so good.
[02:19:25]  It's like a setup.
[02:19:26]  Just spike the ball, spike the ball.
[02:19:29]  Anyway.
[02:19:29]  Bump stocks.
[02:19:30]  Yeah.
[02:19:31]  That's what the government's after.
[02:19:32]  So this guy, obviously, not a high-level intelligence source.
[02:19:36]  It doesn't seem like it.
[02:19:36]  But Alex does have one of them or did have one on the phone, but maybe they got cold feet.
[02:19:42]  All right, we had a federal officer almost info, but they got cold feet and hung up.
[02:19:45]  You're not giving out any secret information.
[02:19:47]  We've already had a form of martial law by the corporations, by the Democrats in their areas.
[02:19:52]  So the driving point of Alex's coverage in these couple of days is definitely that martial law is already here and it's the Democrats and the globalists doing it.
[02:20:00]  On the one hand, this is a mess for Alex because he's always been pretty clear that when martial law is happening, it's time to start a revolutionary war.
[02:20:06]  But leaving that aside, there's another really serious problem with what Alex is suggesting, namely that he's suggesting that the left is responsible for making these martial law moves.
[02:20:16]  Perhaps Alex would like to try and explain some new reporting.
[02:20:19]  Politico reported on Saturday that Trump's Department of Justice, run by his good buddy Bill Barr, had, quote, quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies.
[02:20:32]  It's really staggering the level of control the DOJ was requesting.
[02:20:36]  From that political article, quote, in one of the documents, the department proposed that Congress grant the Attorney General power to ask the chief judge of any district court to pause court proceedings whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation.
[02:20:55]  Also from that article, quote, not only would it be a violation of that, but it says affecting pre-arrest, said Norman L. Reimer, the executive director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
[02:21:07]  So that means you would be arrested and never brought before a judge until they decide that the emergency or the civil disobedience is over.
[02:21:14]  I find it absolutely terrifying.
[02:21:16]  Especially in a time of emergency, we should be very careful about granting new powers to the government.
[02:21:21]  Alex Jones, the champion of civil liberties, will not likely cover this story.
[02:21:26]  He wants Trump to become a dictator.
[02:21:28]  He's been very clear about it.
[02:21:29]  Alex doesn't care about civil liberties for their own sake.
[02:21:31]  They were always a means to an end for him.
[02:21:34]  And it was an issue that was central to the popularity of people like Ron Paul, so he had to push it really hard.
[02:21:39]  It's always been a Trojan horse, and circumstances like this are really just dropping the masks.
[02:21:44]  If Alex doesn't come out and immediately, completely reverse course on Trump after his Department of Justice is asking for the power to detain people indefinitely without trial, he should fucking throw in the towel on everything he's ever pretended to stand for because that shit is over.
[02:21:59]  Yep.
[02:22:00]  But we'll see.
[02:22:01]  I mean, that happened on Saturday, and this is Friday's episode.
[02:22:04]  But it's comical, the idea that he's trying to say that the globalists and the left is doing all this stuff and Trump is a heroic force fighting against it when there's all of these instances of Trump doing the exact things that he normally would be screaming about.
[02:22:19]  Yep.
[02:22:19]  Yep.
[02:22:21]  He's the villain of Alex's story.
[02:22:23]  Absolutely.
[02:22:25]  It is amazing to me exactly how much Trump is doing what they said Obama was doing and lost their minds over it.
[02:22:32]  I still don't think that even if Trump does all of the negative things he may do, that he automatically becomes king and all the senators become dukes.
[02:22:41]  That might be true.
[02:22:42]  That might be true.
[02:22:44]  That might be true, Dan.
[02:22:45]  You don't know.
[02:22:45]  You haven't read the Constitution.
[02:22:47]  It's too big.
[02:22:47]  I don't believe that.
[02:22:48]  It's impossible to read the whole thing.
[02:22:49]  That's science.
[02:22:50]  So Alex talks here about how he's played that clip of Gavin Newsom a ton on the show, and he hasn't.
[02:22:56]  Clinics in California during lockdown, the governor has basically put you under martial law.
[02:23:00]  40 million people are told to leave their homes unless for essential things.
[02:23:05]  And the reporter goes, well, why don't you just do martial law?
[02:23:07]  And he goes, it's a subtlety, honey.
[02:23:09]  We are under martial law.
[02:23:10]  He did not say three times earlier.
[02:23:12]  Yeah, I mean, he's played the clip, but it doesn't say what he's saying there.
[02:23:16]  He's misrepresenting it.
[02:23:19]  And he's turning Newsom into a misogynist somehow as well.
[02:23:22]  Very dishy.
[02:23:23]  Yeah.
[02:23:23]  So Mike Adams comes on.
[02:23:27]  And Mike Adams, I think, actually has a pretty interesting position at this point.
[02:23:31]  I don't agree with almost anything he's saying, but he does believe that these quarantine things are necessary.
[02:23:37]  Interesting.
[02:23:38]  So he is at least at the point of, like, he seems to have a push and pull going that I'm fine with, but I don't want from him.
[02:23:49]  Okay.
[02:23:49]  The thing is, we now have to prepare to fight for our civil liberties as we endure the lockdown and isolation that is medically necessary or epidemiologically embarrassing.
[02:24:00]  That's what I've been saying, and people try to say we're disagreeing.
[02:24:02]  I don't.
[02:24:02]  That is not what you've been saying.
[02:24:03]  That is not what he's been saying.
[02:24:05]  So Mike is saying that this lockdown and these sorts of things are necessary.
[02:24:09]  Otherwise, we're going to be in a really, really bad situation with the virus, which I appreciate him at least having that position.
[02:24:15]  Now, he's also saying that we need to protect our civil liberties in the course of that.
[02:24:19]  And my response to that would be, go talk to Trump.
[02:24:22]  No shit.
[02:24:23]  But at the same time, that is a relevant conversation.
[02:24:27]  The tension and the maintaining civil liberties while at the same time doing this necessary thing.
[02:24:34]  Right, right, right.
[02:24:35]  I will openly accept that conversation and the difficulties in finding a solution or a conclusion that we can all feel comfortable with from anybody but anyone who's ever been on InfoWars.
[02:24:47]  Yes, exactly.
[02:24:48]  They do not have the credibility for me to even respect that conversation for one fucking second from them.
[02:24:54]  And I am repulsed by that.
[02:24:58]  But I do appreciate that Mike is saying that this is necessary because in the world of InfoWars assholes, that is monumental.
[02:25:08]  I was going to say the one person that I really don't want to hear from on this right now, more so than Alex, is Mike Adams.
[02:25:16]  And somehow he's the one who has.
[02:25:17]  Well, no, I mean, I'm not going to play a lot of the audio.
[02:25:19]  No, no, no.
[02:25:20]  I mean, I mean, this particular thing he says.
[02:25:22]  Yeah.
[02:25:24]  Our last clip today from the March 20th episode is like being equally wrong.
[02:25:29]  Alex, my confession and my error in all of this is I have vastly understated the criticality, the extent of this problem.
[02:25:39]  It's over for humanity.
[02:25:41]  There will only be lone survivors.
[02:25:43]  That's understated.
[02:25:45]  That's a shot in a chaser, I believe is what it's called.
[02:25:48]  It's understated.
[02:25:49]  Yeah.
[02:25:49]  All right.
[02:25:50]  Okay, buddy.
[02:25:51]  So we come to the end of this, and I think that Alex is, you know, it's not as painful as I expected it to be.
[02:25:59]  You know, it is in some ways.
[02:26:01]  There's a lot of this stuff that is like, well, this is pretty dangerous.
[02:26:04]  And if people listen to this as opposed to experts, they run the risk of styming the efforts of the country getting through this successfully.
[02:26:15]  But there's also a lot of stupid shit along the way.
[02:26:17]  And, you know, I can always enjoy finding that, hey, Alex said that this 7 million people starved in the Great Depression.
[02:26:24]  Oh, that comes from Pravda trying to justify Soviet.
[02:26:27]  I mean, you used to not be able to trust Pravda, but I read about it before, Pravda.
[02:26:33]  I went from the University of.
[02:26:37]  So you have stuff like that, and that can keep my interest, and I appreciate little things like that being there.
[02:26:41]  And then at the same time, you know, you just got this overwhelming sense of like, okay, the bottom line is the reason you think that the globalists released this virus is to because they wanted to destroy the economy to embarrass Trump.
[02:26:54]  And your only defense you can ever give for that is fucking Bill Maher.
[02:26:58]  Yep.
[02:26:58]  That's fun to think about.
[02:27:01]  And the fact that Alex thinks that every single goddamn movie is real.
[02:27:04]  He really thinks they're real.
[02:27:06]  Especially Rollerball.
[02:27:07]  Rollerball.
[02:27:08]  How about Death Race?
[02:27:09]  Do you think Desperate Death Race?
[02:27:10]  What does Alex think about the remake?
[02:27:12]  I want to know.
[02:27:12]  LL Cool Jay Roller.
[02:27:13]  What about Death Race 2000 with Jason Statham?
[02:27:17]  We got it.
[02:27:18]  There are hard-hitting questions that we need answering.
[02:27:20]  What does he think about Crank?
[02:27:22]  That's a really good question.
[02:27:23]  What do you think about Jason Statham's entire career?
[02:27:25]  We may never know.
[02:27:27]  But I don't know.
[02:27:29]  We'll be back.
[02:27:32]  I hope everyone out there is doing all right with the circumstances.
[02:27:36]  And I hope you all are, I don't know.

=== Twitter Updates (00:52) ===

[02:27:40]  I don't know.
[02:27:40]  I don't want to sound too modeling or anything, but I hope you're taking care of yourselves and each other.
[02:27:47]  I appreciate all the nice messages that we've received about us doing all right.
[02:27:52]  We are doing okay here in Chicago for the time being.
[02:27:55]  But thank you for your concerns.
[02:27:56]  Appreciate it.
[02:27:57]  We'll be back.
[02:27:58]  But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
[02:27:59]  We do have a website.
[02:28:00]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[02:28:01]  We're also on Twitter.
[02:28:02]  We are on Twitter.
[02:28:02]  It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan.
[02:28:05]  You're right.
[02:28:06]  We are on Facebook.
[02:28:07]  We are.
[02:28:08]  And if you'd like to download the show, please go to iTunes, download, rate, review, donate to the show, the whole thing.
[02:28:13]  We'd love it.
[02:28:14]  Yep.
[02:28:15]  We'll be back.
[02:28:15]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[02:28:18]  I'm Leo.
[02:28:19]  I'm DZX Clark.
[02:28:20]  I am the juiciest Ice Cube.
[02:28:22]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[02:28:23]  Thanks for holding.
[02:28:26]  Hello, Alex.
[02:28:27]  I'm a first-time caller.
[02:28:28]  I'm a huge fan.
[02:28:28]  I love your work.