All Episodes
Dec. 12, 2019 - Knowledge Fight
02:14:06
#377: December 6-10, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan look at a confusing stretch in the present day of the Alex Jones Show.  In this installment, Alex repeatedly refuses to dignify the story about him in the New York Times, comes out as at least semi pro-orgy, and announces a very bizarre plan for a publicity stunt.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
23:05
d
dan friesen
01:23:44
j
jordan holmes
21:46
Appearances
Clips
l
larry nichols
00:09
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
And enjoy knowledge.
Fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
If you recall...
dan friesen
I recall everything.
I have perfect recall.
jordan holmes
You kind of do.
It's kind of creepy.
dan friesen
I absolutely do not.
jordan holmes
You had a bet with a friend, and your hair was incredibly long.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
My question to you is...
dan friesen
With the Nicky Gifts.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Would you ever grow your hair out again?
dan friesen
I mean, of course I would, but I don't want to.
jordan holmes
Voluntarily.
dan friesen
My hair grows really fast.
It's a real hassle for me.
It's a situation where I have to either accept very heavy expenses going to a barbershop or just buzzing my head in intervals.
That's the method I'm going with right now.
Periodic buzzing.
I'm not good with hairdos.
Moose.
jordan holmes
Moose?
When have you put moose in your hair?
dan friesen
Maybe when I was much younger.
Palmade.
jordan holmes
You are a dapper man.
dan friesen
I'm not good with that sort of stuff.
I don't know if you're supposed to part in the middle or to the side.
I don't understand.
I don't get any of it.
My head looks pretty decent, just buzzed.
So I'm kind of like, I'm cool with that and then just hoping eventually I either go bald or gray.
At which point, then I'll figure out what to do with it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm on my way to bald, so I don't have to worry about it for too much longer.
dan friesen
I know that when I had hair down to my shoulders and past that, down to my back, I don't want to do that ever again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's too much.
jordan holmes
You had to condition the shit out of that, I imagine, right?
dan friesen
One might.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It was a hassle, and I really, really hate when my hair gets long enough that it's in my eyes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I really find that to be such a nuisance, especially that middle ground where it's too short to put behind an ear and too long to not keep out of the eye.
My hair's just super disagreeable to begin with.
Anyway, I'll probably just keep buzzing my head for a bit.
A podcast where I don't know a lot about Moose, but I do know a bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed you do, and I don't know anything about either, Dave.
dan friesen
Right, Jordan!
So, hey, today we've got an episode.
I figured what we would do today is continue a little bit in the present day, because I felt like there was stuff that was going on that felt a little unresolved.
Like, I didn't...
You know, at the end of our last episode, Alex was really freaking out about something.
And it definitely appeared to be that New York Times story that had come out that same day.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I made some assumptions about, like, yeah, it's probably what's going on.
But I wanted to know a little bit more.
I wanted to test my assumption and see if, you know, if that was actually the case.
And see if he actually responded to that story at all.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
So I continued here.
And so what we're going to be doing is covering December 6th to the 10th.
But it's really just the 6th.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It'll become clear why the 10th is involved.
jordan holmes
And then there'll be a sting at the end of it, I imagine.
dan friesen
There's a coda.
Ah.
But yeah, so we'll get to that here in a moment.
But before we do, Jordan, we've got to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, Sean, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Hey, Sean!
dan friesen
Next, Stein, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Stein!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Atelier Muse.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Atelier Muse.
dan friesen
Next, Isabel.
Thank you, Isabel or Isabel.
Next, Bradley.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Bradley.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And finally, Policy Nonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Policy Nonk.
dan friesen
Where's Nonk?
jordan holmes
Where is Nonk?
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I like this show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
It would be delightful.
dan friesen
So, quick little note here.
jordan holmes
Yes, sir.
dan friesen
I'm getting into this new schedule here of the Tuesday-Thursday episodes two-week.
I'm not enjoying it much.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's not the two episode aspect of it.
It just doesn't feel right somehow.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so I think, I hate to make these fine tune adjustments after we've already made an adjustment.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
But you kind of have to.
So I think what I'm going to do is, I'm going to say, starting next week, we're going to go Monday, Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that feels a little bit more...
Better.
And I've heard some feedback from listeners that they missed starting the week with the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that works.
dan friesen
And that makes sense because a lot of people listen at offices and things like that.
I've heard enough of that kind of feedback, and I also have experienced a little bit of it myself in terms of the workflow, that I think that that's a much better schedule.
And I only chose Tuesday-Thursday because it seemed like it was spread out.
I had no marriage to those dates or anything like that.
So we'll have episodes on Monday and Wednesday.
And then the other thing that that adds, I realize, and this is not a backdooring of trying to get back to three episodes.
jordan holmes
I really feel like you're about to.
dan friesen
I'm not specifically doing that.
But having Monday and Wednesday be the episodes allows us to, in case there's an emergency...
Have an episode on Friday.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And that possibility is much better than having the Tuesday-Thursday where it's like, well, if something happens at the end of the week that's critical to talk about.
jordan holmes
It's just a scramble.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then we're like, well, we'll get to it on Monday or Tuesday.
I think it allows us a lot more flexibility and better serves the people who have responded.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So that will be, you know.
jordan holmes
Moving forward, we're going to do Monday and Wednesday.
dan friesen
Yeah, so a little business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
I think it'll be, you know, a whole lot of this show is like learning by doing.
And so, you know, we start doing something and then you got to adjust a little bit.
And that's just kind of how I feel.
Get ready for that.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
Next Monday.
So we start here on the 6th, and the 5th was the day of the last episode that we covered.
Alex ends the show in just a fucked up headspace.
He needs to get off there.
He's talking about how it's coming time to kill people.
jordan holmes
Yes, he was doing that.
dan friesen
And it was very intense.
jordan holmes
It was a bummer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so we start on the 6th, and Alex is a little bit more contemplative.
alex jones
It is December 6th.
2019 on this Friday, worldwide broadcast.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
And I tend to get in here at the beginning of a broadcast and have this whole transmission planned out.
Within about an hour, I've ended up only covering two subjects or so, and then I start getting really mad at myself.
So I'm going to try as best I can in the first 30 minutes to just hit all this news, even if I just mention it.
And then try to plow through the topics so we can open the phones up because I love taking your calls.
dan friesen
This is so standard now.
Like, this has become just like his boilerplate intro to episodes.
Like, it's not every episode, but it's very regularly he's starting shows with...
I realize that I never get to anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this time, I'm going to do it and I'm going to take your calls.
It's going to be great.
I'm going to do what I set out to do.
jordan holmes
Right.
It makes me worry that he's never going to quit drinking.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know if he's drinking.
jordan holmes
I'm going to quit drinking today.
Promise.
dan friesen
We've discussed in the past that Alex has said that he's stopped drinking and that he's like, I don't know, it was like 90 days off booze.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Rogan said that Alex had told him that behind the scenes.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
And it's entirely...
I'm not one to make accusations on that, because his behaviors that we could pinpoint as his drunk behaviors, like yelling at that woman, cupcake on the street, talking about pissing on a tree, stumbling, staggering, slurring words, and drinking on air.
Those I have not seen during this time.
So I believe that.
However, he's saying that I'm going to get down to business and really take care of shit.
Exactly.
Is never sincere.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that his willpower is not strong enough to quit drinking, but to do his job well?
Impossible.
dan friesen
Well, see, that's what it comes down to.
It's a different muscle.
I think that what is going on is that he recognizes that there is an issue, but he also doesn't have a solution to that issue.
jordan holmes
No, it's definitely not mentioning things.
dan friesen
Because the buckling down and actually getting to these news stories would require actual meat and substance.
And he knows that there's nothing past headlines.
He knows that if he talks about any of these stories without just ranting about the devil, if he takes more than a minute or two on any of these stories, it immediately falls apart.
So he knows he can't buckle down, but he also recognizes that is what I should be doing.
So you start every episode like, this is the time, I'm going to actually get down to it.
So that's great.
But he does actually talk about some news.
jordan holmes
Has he mentioned anything?
dan friesen
He does mention something.
And this is something that's carrying over from the 5th.
At the end of the episode on the 5th, Alex said that there was a story, a big story about Putin that he needed to get to.
And he's like, I didn't even do it.
I didn't even get to the story.
And so here on the 6th, he makes right and gets to that story.
alex jones
Now, some of this news is news I didn't get to yesterday that's so important I must cover today.
And that, of course, is Putin says in some countries, the world, in some countries, the world, the word mother is being replaced.
Now, how big a statement is that?
And it's actually true.
And just let that sink in.
dan friesen
Let it sink in, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Okay, I've let it sink in.
dan friesen
Wow, that was quick.
jordan holmes
Don't care.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That's an interesting response.
So Alex is covering a story about Vladimir Putin expressing some comments in a meeting that was taking place with the Russian Council for Interethnic Relations.
Putin said, quote, you see the word mother cannot be replaced.
Turns out maybe it can.
They've replaced it in some countries with parent number one and parent number two.
I hope that never happens here.
For one, not even the people who encourage the usage of terms like parent number one or two, they're not trying to force people to stop saying mother and father.
It's more of an effort to societally recognize that not all families fit the same quote-unquote traditional definitions that have been considered the norm for so long.
For instance, on school forms, it makes sense to have parent number one and two, since a child's parents may not be one mother and one father, and in terms of that form, the language does nothing to diminish one's fatherhood or motherhood.
Yeah, it's easy stuff, really.
I think that Putin's thinking about this is a little bit lame, at least the way it's being expressed, but I think it's even lamer how this article that I read about it on RT ends.
The article was written by Nebosa Melek, who's credited as a senior writer, but this last paragraph reads more like a fucking Facebook post.
Quote, While Western quote-unquote human rights groups may be girding their loins to condemn Putin's remarks as yet another example of oppression in Russia, they should hold their horses before cashing those lobbying checks.
In the meeting, he also talked about welcoming and accepting immigrants, condemnation of ignorance and extremism, and support for Russia's indigenous peoples who live in better conditions and in far larger numbers than Native Americans, it should be said.
That would complicate the virtue signaling morality plays that pay their bills, though, so we shouldn't hold our breath.
Damn!
jordan holmes
Wait, was that reporting?
It's hard to tell.
Was that in a news article, or was that an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal?
Because it feels like that could be either or both.
dan friesen
It's hard to tell, because a bit of the article is presented kind of as a news piece about these comments that Putin said in this meeting, but it also could have been more of an editorial.
It could have been, but whatever the case is...
jordan holmes
A little bit of both.
dan friesen
Yeah, whatever the case is, that tone at the end there is pretty...
jordan holmes
That's like somebody wanted to start a flame war.
Like, what are you doing?
dan friesen
It sounds like a Paul Joseph Watson script.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You virtue signaling morality players.
jordan holmes
You virtue signaling players.
Quote unquote human rights groups with your lobbying.
dan friesen
Cashing your Soros checks with your virtue signaling.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Damn.
jordan holmes
We love Putin.
Bring back mother and father.
unidentified
Oof.
dan friesen
So Alex's complaint about this seems to come from a place of admiring Putin standing up to the PC police who are completely out of control and they wish to minimize language in order to control the population.
But that's an absurd notion.
I can sincerely believe that that's what Putin's doing.
Considering that the Kremlin banned swearing in, quote, books, films, music, theater, and popular blogs back in 2014, which was to, quote, if you quote from an article in The Guardian, a, quote, attempt to cleanse the Russian language in order to ensure its purity.
Just imagine for a second how Alex would feel about the U.S. federal government banning swearing in the arts.
It would be absurd, his unhinged reaction to that.
Also, there's a law in the books called Article 280.1 in Russia, which makes it a crime to make statements denying the territorial integrity of Russia, which is a pretty serious impediment to opposition organizing.
jordan holmes
I don't understand how that could be.
dan friesen
In 2015 to 2016, in that year, 15 people were charged under this act, eight of whom opposed the annexation of Crimea.
You can see how this sort of law should be a pretty huge red flag for someone like Alex, who has this kind of nationalist states' rights mentality that Alex does.
And yet, I've never heard this come up as an example of Russia's crackdown on speech.
None of this is ever...
unidentified
It's just, hey, he said the same sort of shit I say about how they're trying to ban the word mother.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You can also see this weird sort of chauvinist streak in it, too.
jordan holmes
He specifically says they're trying to ban the word mother, and so we need to protect women from this kind of...
dan friesen
There's this chauvinist chivalry kind of...
jordan holmes
Straight up bullshit, yeah.
dan friesen
So this is a big piece of news for Alex, although he does...
In much his...
Normal style.
Just touch on it and then move along.
jordan holmes
I imagine he agrees with the whole swearing thing, but that's mainly because he agrees with any statement that begins with...
dan friesen
Swears on his show all the time!
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he agrees with any statement that begins with cleanse and ends with purity.
I don't think he worries about the middle ground, or the middle parts of that sentence.
dan friesen
I do think those get his ears...
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a little stoked about that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, like, you could say, like, hey, the federal government does enact swearing laws in terms of the FCC.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But, of course, that doesn't cover a whole host of...
...media that is covered elsewhere.
jordan holmes
No, we're not allowed to talk about the Afghanistan war.
dan friesen
That argument doesn't really track quite as well.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't talk about this story that much.
It's just sort of a hurrah.
How great it is to have...
Putin making these statements that support my same stupid propaganda.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a world leader is saying something that I would say, so I'm going to crow about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then RT is writing an article that sounds like my second-in-command editorial copy.
But Alex is much more interested in talking about this New York Times article.
Of course.
Whereas on the fifth, the response was, I'm not going to dignify this with a response and then freaking out on air.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
By the 6th, he's got a pretty robust...
jordan holmes
He's going to indignify it with a response.
Yes.
unidentified
Although, he will keep saying, I'm not even going to talk about this.
Of course.
dan friesen
While he continues to talk about it.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Here's where he begins.
alex jones
At a New York Times article, I'm not even going to dignify yesterday, saying that I secretly hunt and then cover up videos of the animals I've shot.
Imagine the aliens that live in New York, some areas in those high-rises that write for the New York Times.
Who actually think, like, hunting's illegal.
And that you should be arrested if you're hunting.
And then I'm covering up videos of animals I've hunted.
We've played some of those videos.
Bizarre.
unidentified
It's like, he was heterosexual!
alex jones
No!
And he had children!
dan friesen
He's trying to create these straw man shit about this article.
jordan holmes
Yeah, jingle keys a little bit more.
dan friesen
Yeah, in case you are unaware out there listening, one of Alex's ex-employees wrote an article.
For the New York Times called, I Worked for Alex Jones, I Regret It.
And he discussed his time there, and Alex was presented as a really abusive employer.
And one of the main takeaways that everybody had about it was his discussion of a time that he was sent to cover a community, a Muslim community called Islamberg.
in the Northeast, and he didn't get the story that Alex would have wanted, and so they manufactured a story out of it.
And so that's kind of the thing that I think people take as the most important piece of that.
jordan holmes
Did anybody think that they weren't making stories up or something?
dan friesen
Well, I think that, you know, people give a lot more.
I worked there.
This is my personal experience with it.
The very clear evidence you can get by just watching his show.
And I understand why.
Because you now have someone who's like, what about this?
Sure.
And there's one thing that I thought that I want to express this, and it didn't come to me until later.
And that is that no matter what I might feel about that article and how a lot of it isn't really stuff that you can act on, you know, because there's a lot that you can just dismiss.
Alex could just dismiss as like, well, that's not true.
He's lying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whatever I might feel about it, there's an overarching positive to it that I don't think we pointed out.
There's a possibility that there are many former InfoWars employees that would like to come out and talk about their experience at the company, but they've been too afraid to, based on the NDAs that Alex allegedly has people sign.
If Josh Owens has the guts to come forward, and the result is that nothing bad happens to him, that could have the effect of emboldening others to speak out.
And then the stories of what work is like at Infowars could be more than subjective telling of tales.
There could be people like, yes, I can back up that that did happen.
I was there when that happened.
Now you've got corroborating stories.
And if that's the result, the destruction of the illusion that Alex can keep people silent, then I think that this could do a lot of good.
I think that that's a positive that maybe we didn't pay attention to on the last episode.
And possibly one of the reasons why Alex would be...
Pretty upset about it.
If there's a puncturing of his ability to have control over things, that would be very threatening.
As for the stuff about Alex hunting with a handgun that's in the article, that's cruel.
And it's a betrayal of Alex's supposed responsible gun use narratives.
But it's also something that you just have to take Josh's word for.
Plus, if Alex's audience heard that he hunted bison with inappropriate weapons, I don't think they'd care at all.
Which is why this is the safe subject for Alex to create a straw man of the article out of.
It's just like, oh yeah, they can't handle hunting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the moment he put hunting in there, I was like, whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is going to get back to this.
It's going to be sort of a running theme.
Him responding to this New York Times article while saying, I'm not going to respond to this.
But he discusses in this next clip how at the end of the day on the 5th, He wasn't distracted because of this New York Times story.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he was distracted because of that New York Times story.
unidentified
It certainly felt like it was that.
dan friesen
It certainly did.
jordan holmes
He literally just said in that first clip, the article that I'm not going to dignify with the response, here's my response to the hunting part.
dan friesen
And pretending the hunting part is the totality of the main issue.
No, it's not that.
Although all appearances and the sort of...
Trends you can pick up from Alex's psychology would tell you that that is absolutely true.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
It is not.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex has a big story.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And then, let me just tell listeners, if I sounded distracted towards the end of the broadcast yesterday, we're working on big stories that are confirmed that there are white mans going around.
Picking people up all over the United States, but also black SUVs.
And we've solved the mystery of what's causing this panic across the country.
And let me just leave it like this.
We were out last night at 10 o 'clock at night sneaking around in the bushes in Austin, Texas.
jordan holmes
What bushes?
alex jones
And what we've got is so big that I'm going to be up here Saturday and Sunday.
Separate from the regular Sunday show I do, normally here from about 2 to 6, I'm going to be here both days working on...
See this big stack right here?
jordan holmes
It's empty.
alex jones
And the documents and the witnesses and all of it.
Because when people see folks being put in vans and folks being put in black SUVs by men in suits, it's like something out of an X-Files episode.
People just know instinctively that's scary.
dan friesen
Sure.
Not going to disagree.
People being thrown in vehicles is scary.
jordan holmes
There was one purple Buick, though, and that was less scary.
dan friesen
Somehow a little bit less.
jordan holmes
A little less scary.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is a little complicated, so I'm going to try my level best to lay this out for you.
Alex has been pushing a narrative for a couple days now about how there are people in white vans who are driving around the street snatching people up.
Now, it apparently has evolved into involving black SUVs as well, and at this rate, Alex will be telling people to fear all cars by January.
There's two basic elements to this narrative.
The first is a story that Alex reported from Zero Hedge back on December 4th with the headline, quote, Baltimore mayor warns of body-snatching white vans targeting young girls to sell their organs.
In an interview with WBAL-TV 11, Mayor Young said, quote, we're getting reports of somebody in a white van trying to snatch up young girls for human trafficking and for selling body parts.
His only reference and citation for this was posts on Facebook, though he said it was, quote, something that our police officers are aware of because it's been reported.
This was immediately refuted by the Baltimore Police Department's official spokesperson, who clarified that the police were aware of these random Facebook posts, but were explicit that they have not received any reports of actual incidents of snatching.
The FBI doubled down and said that there was nothing to this, but they would be willing and happy to investigate any such reports that would be made if they're ever made.
This is an urban legend that's been naively repeated by a major city's mayor, and thus given a level of credibility that it does not merit.
However, this sort of thing has a self-fulfilling nature.
An internet hoax, an urban legend, it starts circulating on social media, which then enters people's consciousness.
People exposed to this hoax are now living with a heightened suspicion of white vans, and as such, they experience encounters with them differently than they would have previously.
If they see a van parked in a residential street, previously it wouldn't have even registered in their mind.
But now, with the kernel of this paranoia in there, it becomes a deeply suspicious sight.
Because maybe there's kids walking around this residential neighborhood.
That's why that van is there, obviously.
This heightened suspicion, which might prompt them to post their own story to Facebook to add to the urban legend, or even call the police, thereby leaving a paper trail that seemingly justifies the urban legend with official documentation.
This phenomenon happens more than you'd like, because people are susceptible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Have you ever seen that movie, Urban Legend?
Where everybody gets murdered by a separate urban legend?
And there's like a guy and they're all doing it to make urban legends true.
It's a terrible movie.
dan friesen
I feel like I probably saw that, but I think it came out 20 years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was pretty much that.
The only one I remember is that apparently if you are passing a car with its lights off and you flash your lights at it, then it's going to turn around and fucking kill you.
dan friesen
Yeah, I remember that from just being younger.
It's like a gang initiation or something.
Did you know that those are all white vans?
True.
They are now.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So this is more or less the process that took place on Facebook regarding white vans, particularly in Baltimore through November 2019.
That started to escalate quite a bit.
And now here we are.
Oxygen reported on the possibility that this has already led to one murder in Memphis, Tennessee, where a man named Nazario Garcia, who drives a white work van, was killed by the two sons of a woman who had hours earlier posted on Facebook about a guy in a white van trying to abduct her.
It's unclear if there was an attempted abduction underlying this, but police have been clear that there's no evidence that Garcia had interacted with this woman previously earlier in the day or anything.
It's unclear if this was all related, but it seems like a distinct possibility.
And if this white van paranoia is at the root of this killing, it really highlights the danger that these sorts of mass paranoias carry with them.
If you create enough of a fever pitch of people thinking that folks driving around in white vans are sex trafficking kidnappers, It's not unlikely that a certain number of innocent people who drive white vans could get hurt.
France 24 reported back in March of an outbreak of white van abduction-related hysteria, which resulted in what they described as, quote, near lynchings.
Urban legends were circulating on Snapchat, WhatsApp, and Facebook, all surrounding the idea that white vans were going around kidnapping people.
There was no truth to these rumors, but that didn't stop gangs of vigilantes from attacking camps of Roma people in northeast Paris, setting their vans on fire and terrorizing families.
These sorts of mass hysterias are profoundly dangerous, and when they express themselves, people seem to have a troubling tendency to direct their aggression towards vulnerable and alienated classes of people.
In France, it was the Roma.
In our satanic panic of the 80s, it was largely the LGBTQ community.
It remains to be seen how far this current American white van paranoia Alex is trying to stoke is going to go and who will be hurt.
But it is clear that if it does progress, someone will get hurt.
It's not going to go well.
jordan holmes
It's really disconcerting how easily a meme fear can just grip everyone and get people killed.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It should be harder, right?
If you just get a Facebook post and it's like, white vans are stealing people, you should be able to go like, eh, fuck you.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Until like the fucking news says, well, when the mayor says it.
dan friesen
There was a Slenderman murder.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
When the mayor says it, though, that's kind of a dick move.
dan friesen
That's upsetting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's pretty disappointing to have sort of what would be the equivalent of like grandma fear chain emails being repeated by the mayor of Baltimore.
So the other thing Alex is working in here to build this narrative is that recent release of the FBI documents about the Finders, the suspicious group from the 80s, or as I call it, the satanic panic we thought had ended.
That situation is a big kettle of fish, and it might be something I'll get into at a later date, but for now, suffice it to say, Alex has not read those FBI documents, and he just knows that the story involves two suspicious men who drove a van.
I don't believe Alex was creeping around in the bushes last night trying to catch van snatchers.
And honestly, if I had to guess, he's just seen all the hoax Facebook posts and is reporting them as hard news.
And it would be far from the first time he's ever done that.
So he's got this big narrative.
This white van hysteria is coming in.
It's rising in the Infowars arena.
jordan holmes
Okay, are you saying to me that his big news is that he stayed out?
at 10 o 'clock when, you know, the world is so quiet in Austin that nothing is going on.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's when the white vans come out and play.
jordan holmes
Hiding in the bushes videotaping to see if there's any white vans anywhere near.
dan friesen
See, it's complicated because that is the way that he's presenting it.
But I know from knowing where this goes that it also involves a secondary narrative that has nothing to do with this that he's combining.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He loses interest in the white van part of it and gets more into another side of it as things go along.
But we'll get to that.
jordan holmes
It's really hard to sneak around in the bushes whenever you've parked your tank right next to them.
unidentified
That is true.
jordan holmes
That makes it a little bit obvious where you are.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he's still on the van narrative here, but this is kind of where...
He leaves it.
alex jones
Now, the rumor is they're taking organs.
jordan holmes
Which organs?
alex jones
And we know some people have been kidnapped and organs have been taken.
I've got all the documents, all the articles, all the crime statistics.
Government media is saying none of it's happening.
Go to sleep.
Everything's okay.
But this is even more diabolical than that.
jordan holmes
How so?
alex jones
And it's the kind of thing where this one story, if somebody broke this one story, In their lifetime, it would be the stuff of legend.
And of course, when we break it, they'll do everything they can to block it everywhere.
And because it's so incredible and so over the top and so confirmed, no one will even care.
dan friesen
So this is the sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of...
No one cares about whatever bullshit I'm coming up with.
It's because it's so big, not because it's a misrepresentation of everything.
jordan holmes
It's the stuff of legend, mainly because it's not true.
dan friesen
This is a career case.
This is where you make a name for yourself.
jordan holmes
Matthew McConaughey is going to play me in the movie about this case.
dan friesen
Totally.
This is me finding Carcosa.
Whatever, Alex.
This is finding Nemo.
It's a mess.
So you hear him say there that this is bigger than this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And where he takes the bigger part will take up a bit more later in the episode.
But he gets distracted because this guy named Donald Tusk, who used to be the head of the European Council, tweeted a picture of himself putting a finger gun up to Trump's back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I saw that.
dan friesen
And this has really angered Alex.
And guess what?
Even though...
Days prior, Alex said that Trump has committed treason and may be working for Satan.
jordan holmes
Right.
Which are both things that you would assume the punishment for.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know, whatever.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It turns out that this guy tweeted out a picture and now Alex is fully back on board with Trump.
100% ride or die.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
This is the big EU party head, a traitor to the Polish people.
He's hated his own country.
With Merkel.
He's going to be gone very soon.
And when I see stuff like that...
It really shows you how real Trump is.
He's a real president.
He's really trying to do the best job he can.
He's totally surrounded by traitors.
No one will do what he actually says to do.
And I'm just going to support the president.
That's what is on my heart.
And that's my gut.
And I'm just backing Trump.
And it doesn't mean I'm going to sit there like a cult member and agree with everything he does.
It doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy watching him leave us all out to dry.
To twist the wind.
Because I got a crew that really busts their ass and that means well and that are smart and do a great job.
And it's hard to run an operation with 100 people or so.
And what he's trying to do with all this obstruction and the mutiny he's under, he's doing an A-plus job.
And you know what?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
This is an instant gratification to civilization.
And I think it's important to understand that we should thank God for Trump.
jordan holmes
I'm praying for him.
alex jones
And that's what I've wanted to say.
That's my gut response.
dan friesen
I mean, this is just such a clear-cut thing.
It's so in line with Alex's psychology.
He defines himself so much as almost just a reactive force.
He needs the appearance of fighting against something or something fighting against him to validate and justify anything.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so you've got this guy who's the former head of the European Council.
And he puts this picture out, and it's like, aha, proof that Trump is the enemy of the globalists, therefore I have to support him 100%.
It's absurd.
It's fascinating to me how lame it is.
jordan holmes
I mean, okay, so let's say Bernie Sanders does become president, and there's an overwhelming Democratic majority in the Congress, and we pack the courts, and we do everything that the liberal dream would always want to be.
dan friesen
And the globalists hate it?
jordan holmes
And the globalists hate it.
dan friesen
The quote-unquote globalists hate it?
jordan holmes
But if he left me out to dry?
I would give him a B+.
Like, I'm taking it down at least a little bit.
Sure, he's accomplished every liberal goal that I've always wanted, but he's left me personally out to dry.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
But what you're not taking into account is Alex's version of leaving me out to dry is part and parcel of it is that Trump is selling us out to China, which is the end of all civilization.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's not just like he has, you know...
Not been cool with me.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
Sure.
It's not like he's not returning my calls.
Leaving us high and dry is the end of civilization as we know it.
jordan holmes
Right.
So then I would give him a C, maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's not a minor thing.
It's kind of the whole thing.
jordan holmes
Ah, you know, you say that.
dan friesen
But just because there's the optics and the appearance of opposition with Alex's imagined enemies and Trump, like there's tension between them.
He has everything he needs to just be like, fuck it.
Whole hog, 100%.
I'm on board.
jordan holmes
It should take longer.
It should take more.
dan friesen
It's very simple.
jordan holmes
It should take more than a tweeted picture.
dan friesen
Nope, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
But Alex then says that this Donald Tusk guy should put that finger gun right up his ass.
jordan holmes
There we go.
alex jones
How about you come with that gun to my face?
Because I'm going to take it out of your hands and shove it up your damn ass, you little piece of filth.
Excuse me.
Delay that for family viewers.
I mean, listen, how about you stick that gun to Trump's face?
I bet he breaks your jaw, you little chicken-neck rat.
jordan holmes
I bet he doesn't.
alex jones
These people are attacking us and threatening us, and I'm sick of it.
But I can barely run this operation, and I'm a hard-working, pretty smart person.
jordan holmes
Come on.
alex jones
Trump's done amazing things, and he's the man in the arena, unlike anybody else, and I'm backing him.
dan friesen
Backing him.
The only justification for supporting Trump that lingers outside of, like, I really like the signaling xenophobia, all that shit.
Outside of that.
Because you don't want to make that too overt.
All it is is defiance.
Like, it's just a justification through defiance.
And it's a very low-level kind of reason to support somebody.
It's kind of sad.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is a major part of it, though, is that a large number of his supporters are happy with a crumbling country just so long as somebody finally tells everybody to shut the fuck up that they don't like.
That goes a long way for a lot of people.
dan friesen
There's a catharsis to it.
But it's also, again...
Very low level.
jordan holmes
Very low level.
dan friesen
Very low level rationalization, but that's where we are.
jordan holmes
Just like their proximity to the sea level, it's getting lower.
dan friesen
So in case you need this to be spelled out for you, Alex is supporting Trump 100%, and he will piss on you if you think he's wrong for it.
alex jones
Clearly he's under globalist attack.
Clearly this is a real attack.
They can't stand him because he's really the president, and I'm backing him 100%.
jordan holmes
Today.
alex jones
And these leftists calling in when I've criticized Trump and thinking, oh, a chink is in the armor.
And, oh, you really backed him before, though.
You're bad.
You'll never atone for yourself.
They're all into this fake moral justification, how they're the moral authority and how you go to them like they're the high priest to get your moral absolution.
I piss on you.
The only God I've got is God.
God speaks to me through my conscience every millisecond.
I don't need to be lectured to by the left.
jordan holmes
Is he talking about us?
alex jones
About Trump and my support.
I'm proud I supported Trump.
I'm glad I got Trump in office.
I'm proud of being persecuted.
Because it means I'm over the target.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
That whole mythology of I'm being targeted because I'm right is such a dangerous mentality.
It could be because you're very wrong.
Yeah.
Sure, yeah, absolutely.
You could say that the evil bad guys are targeting you because you're too close to the truth, but it's equally likely that just people are saying, hey, you're being a piece of shit.
Totally possible.
It's that same thing as that Gandhi quote that people trot out.
It's like, the first people make fun of you.
The evolution is like, they mock you and then eventually you're right.
Sometimes people are just mocking you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and then you stay there.
dan friesen
Don't think that that is the progression this always goes down.
jordan holmes
That would be really terrifying if everybody who we ever mocked eventually took over.
That would probably not work.
dan friesen
I mean, eventually, society would adjust towards like, my instinct is to mock this person, but I know that they will be right eventually.
So, I don't know.
It's just a bunch of horse shit.
Anyway, now we get to where this white van narrative kind of evolves.
The offshoot of it, the other piece of it comes into play.
And it involves people experiencing homelessness in Austin.
We've already heard, back in October, Alex beginning the narratives about microchipping the homeless.
Yeah, he goes pretty deep into this on this episode.
And it leads to one of the most exciting things I think I've ever heard on Alex's show.
But also just a lot of bullshit.
alex jones
And this is the UN invasion.
And then you find out they've set it up in Austin.
They don't call it UN Refugee Center.
But it's the same groups running these.
And the cover for it is the giant homeless problem when the mayor said, hey, if you're in San Francisco, if you're in L.A., if you're in Portland, if you're in Kansas City, if you're in New York, if you're anywhere, we've got the most free stuff, and we're buying old hotels, big ones, and refurbishing them for you, and you get free money, free everything, and we're building warehouses with your own apartments.
Come here, and suddenly the number of homeless...
Tripled, they admit, in the last six months.
I mean, they're everywhere.
We look like L.A., just like that.
dan friesen
So I don't care about Alex's dumb xenophobic bullshit about refugees and immigrants.
He's discredited himself a hundred times over on that front, so I can't even find the energy to respond to his attempts to make humanitarianism look like devilry.
The story he's telling is the evolution of a larger narrative that we talked about a while back, where he's been yelling about how they're putting microchips in people experiencing homelessness.
We already discussed the reasoning for this and the reality of that proposal, so it would be a waste to go over all that all over again.
I mostly pulled up this clip because Alex is just making things up.
CBS Austin ran a story in March which covered the stats put out by a number of homelessness advocacy groups, and in the past year there was a 5% increase in homelessness.
jordan holmes
Tripled!
dan friesen
Not a tripling.
It's entirely possible that the number has risen since that point, but we don't know that, and we won't until the beginning of January 2020, when the advocacy groups do their annual information gathering.
Put simply, Alex is just making up the idea that the number of people experiencing homelessness has tripled in Austin.
There's literally no way for him to back up that number, and if called on it, he would probably just appeal to ideas of seeing more people on the street, and meaningless subjective things like that.
He's not making this number up to better serve these people who are in need.
He's doing it to make them a threat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
If the homeless population of Austin actually had tripled, that would be Fox News' only story to distract from the impeachment hearings.
It would be all day, every day.
dan friesen
Right, and it would be something that people would be talking about even in non-Fox news circles.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be a big deal.
So the issue here is what Alex is putting forth is the UN has set up these refugee centers and stuff along through Central and South America, and they're trying to build them in Austin as well under the cover of a homeless...
jordan holmes
That makes as much sense as anything else.
dan friesen
And then they're microchipping them for some reason.
Right.
jordan holmes
Devilry.
dan friesen
Devilry.
This is going to evolve over the course of this.
And like I said, there is just a real big amazing moment that comes almost as a crescendo of this.
Like, it builds and it builds.
jordan holmes
Okay, I'm gonna...
Turning the hopeless into cyborg warriors.
dan friesen
You're thinking way too small.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Taking them to space?
dan friesen
This...
The crescendo is not a narrative crescendo.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's a declaration crescendo.
unidentified
Oh, no!
dan friesen
That I couldn't predict possibly, and I found to be...
Startling.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And completely non-believable.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So we'll get to that as it builds.
But in this next clip, Alex lays out what the plan is moving forward.
And it has to do with, like, taking out Trump and then the ball gets rolling.
alex jones
So when you see Bill Ayers and all of them and it comes out in court, they had a plan to put 50 million Americans in re-education camps and kill 25 million.
Remember that clip?
We'll play it at the start of the next segment.
That came out in court.
That's always been the plan, but they don't call them FEMA camps.
They don't call it a communist takeover.
They overthrow Trump.
They kill Trump.
They stage a bunch of false flags to blame right-wingers.
They say we're terrorists.
They arrest a bunch of the leadership, thousands at first.
You don't respond.
Then they start arresting hundreds of thousands.
They take your property.
They've got you marked, folks.
You're a Republican donor.
You're an NRA member.
You own a car dealership.
You'll be in the second or third wave.
They're going to come.
If you resist, they're going to kill you.
They're going to take your property.
They're going to take your wife.
They're going to take your kids.
They're coming.
They did it everywhere else.
jordan holmes
Where?
It's a car dealer?
alex jones
At first, though, if you don't complain, they won't turn your bank account off.
But that's just because they haven't gotten to you next.
You're like, oh, don't take my bank account.
I support the Roundup.
And you'll have to announce that Trump deserved to be shot.
Alex Jones deserved to be arrested or killed.
He fought back.
They'll say...
And this is how they, and they're testing it, and they're doing it.
And Soros is spending billions a quarter on this right now.
He still gets State Department money.
And we've confirmed they've got paramilitary in every town.
They've got their people prepared.
They've got warehouses ready.
They've got the food ready.
For in the first wave of a collapse that they're trying to trigger, that Trump's fighting, that's why he keeps trying to stabilize the economy, because they were already supposed to implode it.
That's why his main thing is just stabilize that constantly and go around cheerleading.
And pumping up the stock market, even though it's all fiat, because he knows their plan was imploded.
And they admit that was their plan.
So now you see why Trump's so desperate and fighting so hard.
dan friesen
This feels so familiar.
Alex is now weaving back to a lot of the old same narratives from 2009 forward, like of the FEMA camps.
jordan holmes
I feel like we're in reruns right now.
dan friesen
But it has a new mask on it.
It has a new layer of paint.
In the sense that...
Back then, there was the summer of rage coming, and they were going to crash the economy, and that was going to lead to people going into FEMA camps and all that.
But now Alex is far more obsessed with false flags.
Certainly.
Like, he was.
To an extent back in 2009.
But after the Boston bombing and after Sandy Hook, it went pretty wild.
jordan holmes
Literally everything is a false flag.
dan friesen
Everything.
So he's much more obsessed with that.
So that becomes a big piece of the narrative.
And now Trump is also a secondary aspect of the narrative.
What existed before was...
I don't...
You know, there's some reason why they haven't done this yet.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
They're a decade behind!
dan friesen
There's some reason.
The plans aren't in place or whatever.
It's not ready yet.
And now Trump is filling that role.
Trump is, like, cheerleading and keeping the economy afloat because he knows that that's the first domino that falls in their plan.
So he's just repurposed.
Their plans aren't ready, with Trump is stopping them.
jordan holmes
He's the bulwark against their plans being implemented.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
He's our only hope.
dan friesen
It's all the same form of the same conspiracy that never was.
The eventual forced collapse leading to Alex and his buddies being taken to a FEMA camp.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Who cares?
I mean, not who cares.
I mean, if it was real, I would be against it.
jordan holmes
I mean, they're even coming after our car dealerships, Dan?
dan friesen
That is weird.
jordan holmes
They're coming after our car dealerships!
dan friesen
I understand why he'd say, like, NRA member, Republican donor.
Sure.
Like, that fits the theme.
I didn't realize that car dealer was such a, like, synonym of right-winger.
I didn't realize that.
jordan holmes
Anybody who offers 0% financing for five years.
Doesn't even matter if it's at a car dealership, Dan.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess that's...
Maybe that's true.
Maybe that's a stereotype, but I was unaware of it.
jordan holmes
What, that car dealers are all Republicans?
dan friesen
It's third on the list.
jordan holmes
Third on the list, yeah.
dan friesen
Republican donor.
jordan holmes
We got Adelson, we got Wayne LaPierre, and we got Danny's Discount Auto.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So Alex gets into talking about being in the bushes, I think.
It's unclear.
Alex is speaking very precisely here, but I think he's talking about when they went out to get footage of stuff.
And he sees immigrants being bussed somewhere.
It's unclear.
I don't think any of this happened.
Then some people Alex has decided are gay start assaulting him in a very effeminate way.
jordan holmes
I'm not okay with that sentence at all.
dan friesen
I don't think any of this is real.
But here is Alex talking some shit.
alex jones
Our crews across the street at night when they're sneaking hundreds of people out to be put on buses to be shipped all over the country.
Unvetted, unchecked, nothing.
And then men run across the plane.
You don't have free speech.
I mean, that's America.
That's the left.
Crazed psychotics who are all getting paychecks to manage and run these.
And now they're scooping the homeless up and giving them microchips and putting them in hotels in Austin.
Oh, we've been there.
Yeah, government, you screwed up.
You didn't stop us.
We got in all the facilities.
Next week it's all airing.
We've really got your ass now.
Hope you enjoy it.
dan friesen
So that is the beginning of what really excites me.
It's all coming out next week.
I'm like, there's going to be something so disappointing.
jordan holmes
No, this is not happening.
dan friesen
Got me pumped.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, if this is the Obama phone lady in a hotel, I'm leaving.
dan friesen
I legitimately have no idea what Alex is talking about, but if I know anything from my years of listening to him, when he says he has a big scoop coming next week, it means that scoop is not real and it's never coming.
The only other possibility is that something does end up coming, but it's a huge letdown and nowhere near what Alex is claiming it is.
And honestly, I don't know what the big conspiracy is here.
KVUE, the local Austin news channel, reported back on November 14th about the city council granting unanimous approval for the city to repurpose an old hotel to be converted into a homeless shelter.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Evil!
It's not a secret.
It's been publicly debated as a plan.
It's been very out in the open.
If I had to guess, someone who works at Infowars read the story about this and realized that the name of the hotel they're planning to use was public.
The KVUE article clearly says that it's the roadway in and even gives the location of it.
It's the easiest thing in the world for Alex to send someone down there at night to get footage of the building in disrepair because it's an unused hotel.
And part of what the city council was voting on was appropriation of funds to renovate the hotel.
I would predict Alex went down there and got some shots of the place looking like a disaster area.
I don't really see what the other play is here because the story is a zero based on everything I can tell.
The one area for manipulating optics is gaining footage of the pre-renovation building and pretending that it's the condition it'll be in once it's up and running.
But we'll see.
It's also entirely possible that nothing ever materializes.
jordan holmes
It's cheaper than sending somebody to Islamberg.
dan friesen
That's true.
It's possible nothing materializes and this is yet another instance of Alex bringing up something he has in his possession that will definitely sink his enemies.
That mysteriously is forgotten about within a few days.
jordan holmes
He doesn't even have time to play it, Dan.
There's just too much.
There's too much news, Dan.
dan friesen
This has shades of that time Jerome Corsi had a dead man switch for some bombshell Seth Rich info that was going to get him killed that definitely never happened.
jordan holmes
No, that was real.
That was 100% real.
It's just waiting there for somebody to kill Jerome Corsi.
dan friesen
If I recall correctly, the day Jerome Corsi was supposed to reveal that information, Alex didn't even show up for his show.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
The first half hour was special reports, and then Roger Stone interviewed a musician.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
A friend of his.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That is sad shit.
jordan holmes
That is called a real good dodge, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has this narrative, I guess.
There's...
Immigrants, refugees that are being bussed places, then there's disguised as homeless people or something, microchipping, putting in hotels.
It's very, I don't know, I don't know at this point what the fuck he's talking about.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't know what the conspiracy is.
I don't know how this fits in with his collapse.
Plan that Trump is stopping by keeping the economy afloat?
I don't understand this.
jordan holmes
They're going to teach all of the homeless people how to drive specifically white vans or black SUVs.
Those are the only things that they can teach them.
dan friesen
That could be part of a job training program.
A lot of white vans are work vans.
People carry their tools and such.
And so, you know, if part of, you know, getting back into life kind of thing, maybe you're getting trained in carpentry.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You might drive a white van around.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Somebody make sure that Austin doesn't allow people to drive white vans around.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
You know what?
I've got the solution.
Everybody puts a Yes album cover decal on their white van.
dan friesen
Not a bad idea.
jordan holmes
Spray paint.
Everybody knew that unicorns on the side of vans were one day going to save lives.
dan friesen
That runs into money, though.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking about how evil the government is, as is his tradition.
But he realizes that, like, ah, shit.
I'm talking a lot of bad stuff about, like, people who might...
Be inclined to like me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm supposed to be a guy who the military likes.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Supposed to be a guy who, like, the people on the ground like, but not the suits.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And so he has to correct himself really quick.
alex jones
People saw what happened to the RNC, the ATF, and people were like, and the Secret Service, like, almost had me carried on their shoulders.
They're good people.
They know what's going on, the average person in government.
But at the top are a bunch of globalists, ladies and gentlemen.
I didn't even plug once this hour.
And we've got our biggest cells of the year going right now.
If I don't plug, we're not going to be here on air.
A bunch of these big cells are about to end.
DNA Force Plus is selling out.
The sell on that's over.
dan friesen
That's what I call plugging on a dime.
That was quick.
That hinge almost broke.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That was crazy.
jordan holmes
That was like a white van coming to a stop.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex said that he was laughing about like, ha ha, we got in, we got all the footage.
Ha ha, globalists.
You're all done.
And he said, next week it's coming.
And I was like, shit, man.
I want to cover this.
If he's teasing it, I want to know when it's going to be out.
And luckily, he gives a specific.
alex jones
The UN invasion, the open borders, the caravans, the refugee centers being built.
It's not even in the news, but we've confirmed it and have all the documents.
I mean, it's just crazy.
We'll be breaking it all next Tuesday.
jordan holmes
Next Tuesday!
alex jones
I mean, during the breaks I'm going back and looking at all this stuff.
It's just amazing.
Crew that's been working until midnight some nights on this without me even asking them to because it's so powerful.
dan friesen
So this is why we are going to December 10th.
unidentified
Wait, Dan.
dan friesen
Because that's Tuesday.
jordan holmes
This is from last week, which means that Tuesday, when we are recording this, is yesterday.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So we know for sure what this is going to be.
dan friesen
I was very excited.
jordan holmes
He's released it?
dan friesen
I had this situation on my hands where I was like, alright, I want to check in and see, because I figured eventually he'd have to talk about the New York Times article in some specific.
And so I was like, okay, I feel like that's at least something that we should cover.
I think his response to it might be kind of interesting.
And so I got into that.
He reveals...
I'm going to drop this on next Tuesday.
I was like, I gotta get on my horse and ride.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
I've got to...
I can't allow him to tease that.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
jordan holmes
Unacceptable.
dan friesen
I can tell you that I do know what happens on Tuesday.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
And I do know what Alex says is going to happen on Tuesday because he gets even more explicit later.
And it's...
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
He's one for one.
He's nailed it.
dan friesen
If there is an Alex that I enjoy, this is pretty close to it.
jordan holmes
Hubris?
dan friesen
Certainly.
Pride coming before the fall.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex announces this big news is coming on Tuesday.
There's a lot to digest.
Sure.
So he's not going to get to it now.
He's got to talk about the Vegas shooting?
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't.
dan friesen
This is really interesting because Alex has had a lot of ideas about the Vegas shooting in the past.
The Mandalay Bay shooting.
jordan holmes
So has Stevie Peas.
dan friesen
Well, Steve says it didn't happen at all.
And Alex was like, well, that's true.
jordan holmes
He only has one idea about the Las Vegas shooting.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
Fake.
Alex has a lot of other ideas.
He said that it was a Saudi Arabian civil war.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
He said that it was Saudi Arabians attacking.
So we know that he has that in his arsenal of narratives.
He gets even more explicit in this clip, and I find this to be upsetting.
alex jones
Vegas, you notice they would never tell you what happened, and they just said don't ask questions, and then they had all the witnesses and people saying no.
There were people getting shot inside hotels two miles away, and they showed shot-out windows, and people saying, yeah, the dead bodies were laying on the ground here, and there were men running around screaming in Arabic.
Yeah, there were terror attacks all over the town.
You notice Trump basically invaded Saudi Arabia, arrested half the royal house, and executed a bunch of them?
I mean, you know the U.S. invaded Saudi Arabia, right?
That's why Trump's big buddies with Saudi Arabia now, because he arrested, again, half the top princes.
A bunch of them got their throats slit.
I'm not really supporting what happened, but for Vegas, they got on their feet and tortured, and a bunch of them killed.
You know, that all came out, right?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
You know what they use as the torture centers?
The fancy hotels.
jordan holmes
A Ruby Tuesday?
alex jones
You know what they're putting the homeless in?
Former hotels in Austin.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
Those little UN re-education camp bases that they're just getting ready for the collapse of the U.S. And that's the bureaucracy that if they collapse the U.S. is going to use COG to not just remove Trump, but the civil unrest that comes out of it to bring in a permanent...
Martial law.
So, every day, I probably don't cover ten articles.
unidentified
I would say that number's much higher.
jordan holmes
Every day, I guarantee he doesn't cover way more articles than ten.
dan friesen
Definitely.
So you see that weak hinge there of like, ah, hotel, hotel, ha-ha, everything's related.
jordan holmes
Lee Harvey Oswald driving a car.
Who else drove a car?
JFK.
We always knew it was going to happen this way.
dan friesen
They're the same person.
jordan holmes
Same person!
dan friesen
The Las Vegas shooting was not a series of terrorist attacks.
Although a lot of really sloppy conspiracy theorists have made a bunch of very flimsy and ultimately debunk claims about the shooting, attempting to make that very argument.
Alex has had a lot of these people on to disseminate their bullshit.
People like Shepard Amblis, who contends that there were helicopters shooting on the crowd at that music festival.
And I've reviewed that evidence and find it lacking.
jordan holmes
I just can't believe that Josh Owens was telling the truth when he said they made up stories, Dan.
It's amazing!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I've looked into a lot of this stuff, and a fair amount of it is just completely unfounded.
Another chunk of it is based on pretty easily explained quirks of science, like how acoustics work, and can make it appear that there are multiple sources of gunfire, when in reality, you just hear different sounding shots.
It's the result of echoes.
Another segment is people misunderstanding or misrepresenting erroneous immediate reports or police scanners, and the rest of it is just the lingering remnant from people creating outright hoaxes intentionally in the aftermath of a tragedy, which Alex never really looked into and has since incorporated into his view of what was real.
I know I've heard Alex say that there was a Saudi Arabian element to the attack before, but the part about Trump invading Saudi Arabia as a response is kind of new.
If Alex had any principles, this imaginary action should absolutely make it impossible for him to support Trump.
If what Alex is saying was true, then Trump would have clandestinely and without the approval of Congress carried out a violent action against a sovereign foreign power with the goal of regime change.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what your problem here is.
dan friesen
This is something Trump would have to have been doing secretly, which Alex should be against, seeing as this would be a conspiracy that has enormous geopolitical ramifications, and we can see the results that have come from it.
From the gigantic weapon sales, to the turning a blind eye to the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, to Trump vetoing a resolution that would have ended our support for Saudi Arabia's actions in Yemen.
Alex always says you could judge a tree by its fruit, and if that's the fruit of Trump's imaginary coup in Saudi Arabia, that tree is not good.
jordan holmes
What he did was he invaded Saudi Arabia, performed a coup of their government, and then gave the previous government everything that it ever wanted.
dan friesen
That makes perfect sense.
Summarily executed people on behalf of us.
But, for real, that's all nonsense.
I don't really care to take all that stuff seriously.
However, there's one important feature that I think this clip highlights really well, and that Alex Jones seems to be way less interested in sniffing out conspiracies and yelling about them if he feels like he's a part of them.
He gets to act like he's in the know about this secret Trump invasion of Saudi Arabia, so he's not concerned, really, about how that action would be counter to literally everything he stands for.
He's on the team, so it's okay.
That's fun.
That's bad.
jordan holmes
It's probably not good.
dan friesen
That indicates to me a sense that he doesn't really care about anything.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think he does.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex, in this next clip, gets back to the New York Times article.
And he feels like he should probably address the fact that there's accusations that he made up news about Muslim communities.
jordan holmes
Now, he's addressing this immediately after making up news about...
Muslim countries.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's immediately after, but yeah, it's after that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
It's, you know, within that space.
It's response isn't great.
alex jones
The New York Times had a fake news story out yesterday.
I mean, almost all of it was completely made up.
The rest of it was disinfo or half-truths.
I'm not going to even show it on screen.
I'm going to dignify it.
jordan holmes
You're talking about it now.
alex jones
But it said that I demanded stories be made up about Muslims.
You understand that in my stack every day are like 30 articles where Muslims are stabbing, shooting, murdering, raping, screaming Allah Akbar.
I don't need to have people manufacture news?
jordan holmes
That is a great, totally believable denial there.
Manufacture news?
I would never!
dan friesen
It's not good.
But it gets worse.
Because Alex now has a conspiracy theory about this article in the New York Times.
jordan holmes
That's what I was looking for.
dan friesen
And here it goes.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, you read this stuff, and it gives you an idea into the mindset.
It literally goes, Jones secretly slaughtered animals, but wanted it kept secret.
But he hunted.
What the heck?
Again, imagine you're the writer.
We even know it's this Elizabeth lady.
She even links to an article since somebody else wrote it.
It's this old, crazy lady who lives up in a high-rise.
Doesn't even really get scared of trees and stuff.
Hold on.
That's like a space alien coming to Earth.
jordan holmes
To write for the New York Times.
alex jones
And then hearing about hunting and hearing about people go out on a hunt and they got a trailer full of dead animals that we, by the way, ate.
dan friesen
Alex is not more specific about this conspiracy theory, but he apparently believes that some older woman named Elizabeth wrote the piece in the New York Times and then put his former employee Josh Owens' name on it, which is wild.
jordan holmes
How does he know a very small but incredibly specific set of details about this Elizabeth lady who doesn't exist?
dan friesen
None of them are real.
Part of this is probably his way of getting out of having to publicly show that he has no control over his past employees.
If he attributes this article to this other person, then it's not Josh Owens saying these things, and therefore he hasn't broken his NDA, so there's nothing Alex can really do about it.
It's just the globalists attacking him.
Another element is that Alex probably feels hurt by his former employee betraying him like this.
The dude worked at Infowars for four years, so you gotta think you know the guy.
Alex wouldn't want to show that kind of weakness when it comes to the optics of him being too mad about it might look weak, and I don't think he really wants to show that.
So, Alex thinks that Elizabeth Williamson wrote this story.
She's a writer for the New York Times, and she's written many stories about Alex in the past, so he's probably pretty fixated on her.
Williams didn't write that story.
Josh Owens did.
But that reality is pretty hard to accept.
So this is the way Alex is deciding to play it, which kind of bums me out.
jordan holmes
Eh.
dan friesen
One of the ways Alex is using this completely made-up narrative that Williamson wrote the article is to say that she's some kind of New York high-rise living elite who's never been to the real America where people hunt and they eat meat.
Leaving aside that she was born in Chicago, went to Marquette, which is in Milwaukee and doesn't live in New York, this is just stupid pandering to some kind of folksy notion of Americana.
You can't take with this elite New Yorker who may as well be an alien to real Americans like us.
Seriously, you can't take it seriously.
That's basically the message.
It's also pointless.
Like, honestly, how many Alex Jones listeners do you think actually read the Times?
Like, what kind of an actual threat is this to...
Whatever holding he has.
jordan holmes
It's nonsense.
I mean, they probably at least read the headlines, so if they're scrolling through whatever news feed that it is they've got, they'll get one headline of Alex Jones is a giant fucking dumb liar.
dan friesen
Right, but if you're an Alex Jones fan and you see that's posted in the New York Times, you're not going to take it seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're already done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's ridiculous that he needs to come up with this deflection of...
Someone else wrote the story.
Also, they're a high-rise, living New York elite who doesn't know what it's like to be out in a field.
It's kind of absurd.
jordan holmes
I would say, yeah, it's probably more just the personal angle.
It has nothing to do with what his listeners are going to like or dislike about the New York Times.
Everything to do with him just being like, I need to create a story for me.
To make me feel better.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it feels like whatever is going on is about addressing those concerns.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
In the same way that, you know...
jordan holmes
He's sad.
He's a sad boy.
dan friesen
He doesn't care about conspiracies if he feels like he's in on them.
And he needs to guard his ego by pretending someone else wrote this story.
It's all about himself.
So, in service of that, like, these rich, elite New York types, they're so different from us.
They're alien.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex descends into a really weird sort of diatribe about these high-rise living elites.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I would remind you before we listen to this, it's a family show.
alex jones
And I'm telling you, I've been around these generational rich people, folks.
They don't know anything.
And more and more people aren't even rich.
They've just grown up latchkey kids in these high-rises and stuff.
And man, they come to Texas?
And they see you jump up on the back of a horse?
And they see you jump a fence or something?
I mean, let me tell you, you can bring supermodels down from anywhere.
You go on a horse, start jumping over fences with them, they're pulling you off that horse trying to have sex with you right there.
I mean, you know, they've never been around men, ladies and gentlemen.
I mean, they have never seen any of it.
You know how excited a woman that's never gone out in a big field, in a big truck farm type garden, and picked a bunch of...
Picked a bunch of vegetables and put them in there.
jordan holmes
Is this a metaphor?
alex jones
Take them in the farmhouse and cook them.
You can't get into the house before the woman's pulled your clothes off.
Because it's so instinctive to be out with the sound of the bugs picking vegetables with a man.
It's so peaceful the women melt, ladies and gentlemen.
But see, all these people that have lived in these cities, they literally think I'm a serial killer because I shoot animals at 600 and 800 yards and then I eat them.
Just like I go out in the garden and pick squash, and I go in and I cook it, and I peel those potatoes.
jordan holmes
What is just happening?
That's the grossest thing I've heard.
How did he make peeling potatoes grosser than anything else he said?
dan friesen
Yeah, it did seem like there was grossness to it.
jordan holmes
That was gross.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
All these elite New York high-rise living people, they all want to fuck you when they come and see you on a horse.
That's...
So, like, crazy to me.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
dan friesen
I just love it.
That's where his brain works, though.
It's just like these people don't know.
jordan holmes
People pick vegetables and then they fuck me!
dan friesen
That's how it works!
It gets them so horny.
Gardening is foreplay.
jordan holmes
God, that's so stupid.
And not just that, but most of the people who write for the New York Times can't afford anything, let alone the people who are New York elites who write for the New York Times probably agree with Alex more than not.
dan friesen
It's possible.
I don't know.
It's just fun to see the way his brain deals with information.
But I love that at the end there, he's talking about, I peel my own potatoes.
And it gets into this, I do this stuff for myself.
I do it myself kind of thing.
And I think he thinks he's going to end this list on a real punch.
But he accidentally says something I think is like, it might...
I hate to use the word Freudian slip, but it feels like that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I pump my own gas, and I buy my own groceries, and I kick my own ass.
Got that?
dan friesen
I kick my own ass.
unidentified
That's such a weird slip.
jordan holmes
Because I think what he's trying to say is, I don't have other people kick ass for me.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But there's a truth.
jordan holmes
There absolutely is.
dan friesen
There's a truth to it in as much as he creates his own problems.
I do kick my own ass.
jordan holmes
I kick my own ass!
dan friesen
You globalists at the New York Times trying to destroy me.
I'll do it for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
I have a problem that needs to be dealt with.
I will deal with it myself.
Yeah, I heard that.
I was like, God damn.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
I buy my own groceries and I kick my own ass and I'm all out of groceries.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Truest thing he's ever said.
So, Alex goes to break, and he comes back, and what do you know?
He continues to not talk about this New York Times story.
alex jones
Even in the New York Times, this big fake piece that I'm not going to even dignify by talking about, something I had to go remember and talk to people, so that was true, that we were interviewing somebody dying of cancer, and I said, give him a big check when you go interview him.
I feel bad for him.
And the New York Times said, He must have been trying to impress his reporter that he was moral.
What the hell?
I give to all sorts of charity and never really talk about it.
But I had more money, more so.
I funded all sorts of groups and organizations covertly.
That doesn't sound good.
But to them, they would never write a big check to somebody dying of cancer.
That we were exposing what had been done to them.
dan friesen
To be clear, in the article, Josh Owens says, quote, Once when I went to interview a frequent guest of Jones's, I was sent with a check to cover a potentially life-saving cancer treatment.
jordan holmes
Larry Nichols.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
During the time frame that Owens worked there, it's pretty safe to say that there is only one frequent guest who sounds a lot like that, and that is Larry Nichols.
So that would raise the question of whether or not there was a time during Josh's employment when someone from Infowars would have been in Arkansas to interview Larry in person.
The answer to that question is yes.
In 2015, Alex released the New Clinton Chronicles, which was basically just Larry rambling a bunch of bullshit about Hillary being a witch.
Witches.
It is professionally shot, and it was done through Infowars.
It was never released as an actual DVD or anything, so really it only existed on YouTube.
That makes it damn near impossible to track down any credits for it.
As such, I can't prove definitively that this was the time when Owens delivered a check to one of Alex's frequent guests, but I'd be very comfortable in assuming that that's the most likely situation.
So probably that.
And Alex was like, yeah, it was just someone who we were interviewing who wanted to help him out, but you evil people would never do something like that.
Kind of feels more like Alex is paying for Larry's interview.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And it's...
Josh, it's lovely that you believed that it was a potential...
dan friesen
Yeah, it does seem a little naive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex continues to not talk about this New York Times story that he won't dignify with the response.
jordan holmes
He won't dignify it!
alex jones
It's just when you get into the mindset of the globalist, it's so weird, it's so bizarre.
And how they'll always, when they write a fake piece, you learn about their psychology by studying them over years.
They'll always take something from Hollywood and put it in their fake piece as like a tale, I guess, to other people.
It's the Wolf of Wall Street where somebody grabs somebody's fish out of a fishbowl and eats it.
I have fish at home.
I like fish.
I never grabbed an employee's fish and killed it.
But see, something's so over the top.
Well, it's got to be true.
I mean, who would make up Jones walking over and going, give me that fish.
unidentified
I'm going to kill it.
alex jones
I don't know.
Maybe I'd...
I have shot turtles.
I have shot turtles in a pond at about 300 yards for target practice because they eat the fish.
That's a problem.
My grandma's like, get out there and shoot those turtles.
They're eating all the bass out of there.
So I guess I have shot turtles.
dan friesen
Cool.
So, his defense is, I've shot turtles.
Didn't kill that goldfish.
jordan holmes
His defense is also, maybe I...
I think I killed turtles.
I think I killed turtles.
dan friesen
The more important thing in that clip, though, is him accusing the globalists of using things from movies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, guy.
A guy who thinks that childhood's end is literally real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, guy.
jordan holmes
Actually, that makes me believe it.
Even more that he knows that it's from Wolf of Wall Street, because that suggests to me that he probably watched or saw Wolf of Wall Street close to that event, and then decided to do it.
dan friesen
Oh, that's interesting.
jordan holmes
That makes the most sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, I didn't even consider that.
That's a possibility.
I don't know.
I just think it's funny when someone whose worldview is almost entirely based on science fiction movies and books accuses the globalists of using, always using movies.
jordan holmes
They always do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, as a tell.
jordan holmes
And now it's possible that he actually just watches a lot of movies and then applies whatever is in a movie to what is happening.
But they always put it in there for him to find.
dan friesen
You know those people that you'll run into where every joke is like some reference to a movie?
I do feel like Alex probably socially would be fairly close to that.
And maybe acts out things.
jordan holmes
I think he still does my wife.
I think he still does it.
dan friesen
No, he probably doesn't.
He hates Borat.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
He probably starts with that, and then he has to stop him.
jordan holmes
I probably didn't.
Damn it!
dan friesen
Punches a wall.
unidentified
Can't do Borat!
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is done for now talking about the New York Times story, but he has another...
jordan holmes
For now.
dan friesen
I mean, he has like 10 stories a day that he never covers.
Right.
And so he decides he's got to get to one that he didn't cover.
And it's about some sort of a polyamorous relationship that was covered in a video.
I didn't even look into this because I don't really even care.
It has to do with a woman who's with four men or something.
Alex is real judgy about this.
And I'd like to point out that he thinks he's a libertarian.
alex jones
I got this video I didn't get to that they're glorifying on the news.
It's a polyamorous couple of four men and a woman, and I use the term men lightly.
And it's all, this woman is their mommy, is what it is.
And they just want to keep living with their mommy.
And she treats them all like they're her 12-year-old sons.
And this is as close to nightmare as it can be.
And of course, you know it's not going to go well.
Now she's pregnant with one of the boy's sons.
And this is what the collapse of civilization looks like.
You know, she's really going to protect them from the army horde that comes over the hill.
But this is what our friendly, nice society, not giving people guidelines, to at least, hey, maybe follow, has created.
dan friesen
Hey, guy.
jordan holmes
You want guidelines?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What else?
What word would you use to also consider guidelines that the government gives you?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm going to call it regulation, Dan.
dan friesen
You want sort of like enforced relationship structures?
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure that he does, yes.
dan friesen
I mean, it's hard to say that that's exactly what he's advocating, but it isn't outside the possible things he's...
jordan holmes
Oh, no, absolutely.
dan friesen
But I think what he's more interested in than government doing it is society enforcing it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, people in these sorts of relationships being, like, marginalized to the extent where they're not welcome.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, scarlet letter type shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's the kind of thing, and that's not libertarian at all.
That's not, like, I would say, isn't that even supposed to mind your own business?
Who gives a shit if this, who, first of all, who gives a shit if this woman is dating four dudes?
Or together with four dudes?
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Everybody.
dan friesen
Second of all, who gives a shit if she's pregnant?
By one of them.
jordan holmes
Everybody.
dan friesen
Who cares?
Let them be...
Hey, Alex.
Alex can be like...
You know it's not going to work out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why do you care?
jordan holmes
This is literally every time he even mentions gay people, he always follows up with, and I don't care what you do in bed.
You can be with anybody that you want.
You cannot be with more than one person, though.
That is where I draw the line.
dan friesen
He very clearly does care.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
It's very bizarre.
jordan holmes
100 million percent!
dan friesen
But Jordan, you're wrong.
jordan holmes
I knew that.
dan friesen
It's not about multiple people being with one person.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
jordan holmes
It's about multiple men being with one woman?
Fuck you!
dan friesen
Fuck you!
That might be...
jordan holmes
Do not tell me that's what it is!
dan friesen
It might be...
jordan holmes
How dare you!
So one guy can be...
God damn it.
alex jones
...decide if they want to be men or not.
You know, if you want to get down to real primitive levels...
It's not manly.
It's not cool.
It's not avant-garde to have four dudes with one chick, okay?
One thing, if you're confident enough, and I'm not saying this is good, it usually breaks up relationships.
Hey, if you're a buddy, your wife's hot, mine's hot, let's do that.
That's a completely different thing.
Greeks would go up to some of them once a year on a certain full moon.
If people want to go and have an orgy and everybody swap each other's wives, do it.
You've got to share the genetics here a little bit.
That's a manly thing to do, to get your blood up and go to an orgy and have sex with other people's wives in front of them.
It's not manly.
To sit there and sit there and take turns with your domesticated, stupid, so-called mothership.
And it's what the collapse of civilization absolutely looks like.
dan friesen
This is a family show, Jordan.
unidentified
It's not manly to do this, but it is manly to go fuck each other's wives.
jordan holmes
Furthermore, if you've ever read the book Sex at Dawn, that is actually what the beginning of civilization looks like.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Point is, it's not manly.
To be in a situation where there's one woman and four dudes.
jordan holmes
He is so threatened.
He's so pathetic.
He's such a weak-willed loser.
dan friesen
It's very revealing.
Because the way he's talking about it is it's manly to go to an orgy.
But it's not manly.
jordan holmes
To share.
dan friesen
Given the way it's being framed in the terms of manliness.
And manliness is what needs to be retained.
It's very...
Messed up.
jordan holmes
I'm always amazed at how manliness is maybe the most fragile thing in the world to these guys.
dan friesen
Whatever it is, it's very threatened by this.
Potential polyamorous couple that he's heard about that have nothing to do with his life at all.
jordan holmes
Nothing is manlier than being terrified at every moment that people will find out you're not a man.
dan friesen
I mean, what if those people are happy in that sort of arrangement?
Why the fuck do you care?
jordan holmes
Because it could be the end of civilization, Dan.
dan friesen
Even if they have an arrangement that involves some sort of a maternal...
Dynamic between them.
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Can't allow for that, Dan.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
One woman and four children?
That's against the rules, Dan.
dan friesen
So crazy.
jordan holmes
Any consensual relationship that I don't approve of should be ended.
dan friesen
Family.
Show.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Gotta go fuck each other's wives.
jordan holmes
Gotta go fuck each other's wives.
dan friesen
Just the best.
unidentified
Just...
dan friesen
Alex's brain is...
It's so fascinating.
jordan holmes
These lines, like the question, where do you draw the line?
For so many people, it's relatively simple.
They can draw the line in many different places very quickly.
For Alex, the line is zigzagging, it's upside down, and then at certain points, it's parallel, but also never tight.
dan friesen
No clarity, no consistency, just fucking knee-jerking.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Just whatever the fuck makes me feel weird, it's gotta go.
jordan holmes
On this day, because it'll change tomorrow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we get back to this story about people experiencing homelessness.
And like I said, when Alex...
jordan holmes
We go from wipe swapping to, now let's get back to homelessness.
Gotcha.
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, because what happens is Alex has an interview with former MLB player Aubrey Huff.
Because Aubrey Huff posted a video where he was, or I guess it was maybe a picture, where he was out at a shooting range with his kids, and he said, I gotta teach them how to use a gun in case Bernie wins.
jordan holmes
Wait, Aubrey Huff, San Francisco Giants?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Even your magic, Aubrey Huff?
dan friesen
That's the one.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
He's a gun guy.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, by the way, most baseball players are gun guys.
They're all fucking insane.
dan friesen
What about Brian Wilson?
jordan holmes
The bearded freak.
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, look, he's on...
Interviews, whatever it is.
Who cares?
In the middle of that, Alex gets a call from a woman in Florida who claims to work in the homeless population, and she has also heard of somebody getting a chip.
And so this turns Alex into going deep in that direction.
Now, Alex has already revealed that on Tuesday, he's going to break his big news, this bombshell that'll destroy the globalists.
And in this clip...
Alex reveals what his plan is.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
dan friesen
And this made me, like, over the moon.
Like, just, I was so excited.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I thought, you know how to come on today, cover all this, show a bunch of stuff, and then open phones up, because I bet it's happening in other areas, to get more contacts, and then people can actually videotape, and the big one's going to be cutting the chip out of somebody's arm at a doctor's office.
Because no one will care if I show the facility and admitting they're doing it.
People are going to want to see that chip come out.
And we're having to get involved with HIPAA forms and everything else right now, okay?
But that's what we're going for, is the chip being cut out on TV with a doctor here next week, okay?
Because like P.T. Barnum said, man, and so does Shakespeare, the whole world's a stage.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Bill Shakespeare.
dan friesen
Wow.
So, real quick, P.T. Barnum didn't say all the world's estates.
That was Shakespeare.
jordan holmes
That was originally Shakespeare and still not P.T. Barnum.
dan friesen
P.T. Barnum, I believe his quote was, all press is good press.
jordan holmes
Something along those lines, yeah.
dan friesen
However, Alex, what he does is so much closer to Barnum's shit.
So, it makes sense that that's where his mind would go.
Like, getting someone in studio to cut a chip out of them is absolutely carny shit.
And as I was listening to that, my first reaction was amazement that Alex announced that he was planning to do that.
Which very quickly became a certainty that this was never going to happen.
jordan holmes
I feel like this is Thomas Edison electrocuting an elephant level shit, but at the last minute he backs out being like, I can't kill an elephant.
dan friesen
It's terrifying.
I mean, sure.
If you want a publicity stunt, maybe this is the way to go.
So what's going on here, like I said, is this woman called in from Florida.
She claims to have 30 years experience working with people experiencing homelessness.
Although she's not specific about what any of this experience is.
She mentions that she works for a non-profit, but it's weird.
jordan holmes
It's a white van only non-profit, and I don't know what she's doing out there.
dan friesen
It's very vague.
Anyway, she meets a couple who then disappear for six to eight weeks.
When she meets back up with the dude from this couple, it turns out that he was arrested for trespassing.
And in the process of being booked, he's offered to be part of a program where people who experience homelessness would be given implantable chips that would contain all of their relevant medical records, identification, etc.
Anyway, we talked about this on a past episode.
And it makes a lot of sense for people who are living with housing vulnerability.
To explore that kind of an option.
They often have no secure place to keep important documents, and that can be the difference between progressing towards stability and being trapped in a never-ending cycle of consistently having to get new copies of necessary documents, which really gums up the works.
jordan holmes
It's a financial burden, it's a physical burden, it's everything.
dan friesen
Anyway, this woman calls in, and it's completely freaking Alex out, because he hasn't even broken his big news that he was planning to break on Tuesday.
But that's ridiculous, because I've already heard him talk about this back in October.
Even at that point, that wasn't news.
Other mainstream media outlets have been discussing this proposal for months, even a year, before Alex even caught wind of it.
The bottom line is what they're talking about has this kernel of truth to it.
And as much as there is a plan that's being discussed and being worked on, it's all bullshit when it's being combined with this FEMA camp fantasy and all the globalist nonsense, though, which Alex is doing.
I should also say that I don't find this caller to be someone who strikes me as being a good source.
Here's a clip of her talking to Alex that I think is full of red flags.
unidentified
Can you imagine being a liberal for 30 years, okay?
Being a liberal for 30 years and then having one of your homeless say to you, Hello?
jordan holmes
Somebody's trying to microchip me.
unidentified
And then I'm listening to Alex Jones because I want to be, you know, I want to be enlightened.
You know what I mean?
I want to learn.
And I'm having a disparity on, is this right?
Is this wrong?
And then I have it hit me right in the face saying, yeah, there it is, Kelly.
What are you going to do now?
dan friesen
So in that clip, this person who claims to have 30 years experience in the field refers to these people as my homeless.
She's using a possessive descriptor, which I think seems really weird and kind of gross.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
At very least...
It's an indication that she has a pretty weird view of the work that she's doing.
jordan holmes
30 years a liberal.
30 years a liberal, and then one of my homeless say they got microchipped, and I was listening to Alex Jones, which all three of those make perfect sense in the same sentence.
dan friesen
I mean, it's so glaring.
The idea that she's claiming to be a liberal who decided to listen to Alex Jones in the year of our Lord 2019 in a search for enlightenment.
jordan holmes
Where you have to...
Really go find Alex.
You can't just YouTube him anymore.
dan friesen
Looking for enlightenment.
That's just not something that happens.
Either the liberal past that she's describing is being manufactured to give her story more credibility.
As if to say, you can take it from me.
I was part of a group that hates you and even I think you're right.
Or she's just delusional.
You just can't have a, you know, there's no kind of liberal principles you can hold, and then you tune into Infowars and think, hey, these people are really swinging me.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's bullshit.
It's totally possible that she's a real caller, but this is the closest I've come to thinking the caller was an actor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this sounds like a plant.
dan friesen
It's just really hard to swallow, these elements of her story that, you know, I just don't...
I mean, it's possible.
It's entirely possible.
These are things that could exist in someone's brain.
Like, she could have perceived herself to be liberal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it'd just been a completely inaccurate self-descriptor.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's possible.
But I just, I have a tough time.
Although it works too well towards justifying Alex's narrative.
jordan holmes
Fitting his narrative exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's almost too much.
But, again.
It's not impossible that some listener would be exactly what Alex needs and he could take that call.
That is possible.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Odds are thin, but it's possible.
jordan holmes
Well, I thought before you even played this that we were leaning more towards a situation where it's like the letters that the veterans get and the guy's like...
Well, I haven't gotten one, but I haven't checked the mail recently.
Or the other guy's like, I heard someone got one.
I thought that she was going to be like, I worked with the homeless and I heard that somebody...
dan friesen
Well, it kind of did.
She heard from this guy.
jordan holmes
Right, but she's talking about he showed it to her.
dan friesen
No, he didn't.
He didn't get it.
jordan holmes
Oh, he didn't get it?
dan friesen
No, he got an offer to get this as opposed to doing 60 days in jail for the trespassing.
Almost like drug court.
It's an option that you can take being involved in this program.
And I don't know if that's true.
That's just what she's saying.
So it's still even second hand to her.
So a lot of this is being driven by a video that made the rounds at the end of November.
Beginning of December area.
It was posted on YouTube by a channel called Beard Brand.
In the video, a barber is giving a nice haircut and beard trim to a man living with homelessness who apparently had helped the shop out with some cleaning, like the windows and stuff.
The video itself is meant to be a heartwarming thing where you see the difference that little things like a haircut or the human interaction with the barber can have.
It is really kind of moving to see the end of the video.
Like how much different this guy appears at the beginning.
Like haggard and kind of like disheveled.
And then he gets this really great haircut.
You can see his face lighting up more.
It's nice.
So at the beginning of the video, getting the haircut says that there's a plan he heard about trying to put a device on people to house their important documents.
And he's even expressing it as, like, this is not a bad idea.
So naturally, Alex sees this as an accidental slip-up admission of the grand conspiracy.
Proof in plain sight.
There's nothing secret and nefarious about the MyPASS program that's being discussed in Austin.
Shit's been really public, and I can find articles going back to at least April of last year covering the launch of the plan and how they were working with the people.
And with blockchain technology, in order to try and navigate some of the larger data privacy issues that something like this would bring up.
We talked about this on a past episode, so I don't want to belabor it, but it's worth recognizing that this is a real thing that's being lied about.
And the real-world function of what Alex is fighting...
Is the development of a program that could give people experiencing homelessness greater access to the tools they need to manage their lives?
They're the victims of his narratives.
jordan holmes
Well, he doesn't want any problems to be solved, because then he wouldn't be able to yell about that problem anymore.
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex covered this story weeks ago, as if it was breaking news, even though it had been public and covered for over a year by other publications.
But then he let it drop.
That was good enough for him, just to touch on the story so he could come back to it if he needed it.
But I think he knew there was no legs to the story and it is what it was.
But then this Beardbrand video came out and it went really viral.
It raked in millions of views, with it currently being at about 6.5 million on YouTube.
There's a clear demonstration that the public was interested in this story, so Alex reprioritized it.
I can't see any other reason for his increased focus on this narrative.
There's no other news other than what he'd already lied about back in October, and nothing that the man in the Beardbrand video said adds anything more to the story.
All that happened was that there was a video that got millions of views, and Alex realized that maybe this would be a story he could take ownership of and get some of that attention for himself.
From his perspective, that makes total sense.
He's just chasing down...
Whatever scraps.
And trying to build it into something.
So, that's all here.
There's a viral video of a guy getting a haircut that mentions this program has been publicly discussed and isn't a secret to anybody.
And Alex is turning it into, I'm going to cut a chip out of somebody on Tuesday.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is absolutely nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But it's overwhelming to Alex.
And you just can't handle it.
alex jones
I can't process this much stuff at this point.
That's true.
Because I've got about, let's not exaggerate, like ten giant stories that we're trying to deal with.
jordan holmes
There's always ten.
alex jones
And seven of them are completely confirmed.
And they're all earth-shaking.
And four of them are the same story.
dan friesen
What does that mean?
I've got ten stories.
Seven are confirmed.
Four are the same story.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Is this a riddle?
Is this like what has one leg in the morning, two legs at night, and four legs at dinnertime or something?
dan friesen
The doctor is the mother.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
But I am the great student.
dan friesen
So Alex, he has these ten stories.
He doesn't say what they are.
He has four of them are the same.
jordan holmes
Are they of the seven, or are we actually dealing with 11 stories that are actually eight stories?
dan friesen
Who knows?
Doesn't matter.
None of it's real.
But then Alex has a little bit of a breakdown.
alex jones
If the deep state was going to try to have an economic implosion and martial law, which they admit they want, and a civil war, a controlled civil war, out of which America will never come back...
Imagine the planning and the money and the infrastructure that will go into that.
And then imagine the cover stories for the different pieces of the program.
And I have reverse engineered the whole damn thing.
Sure.
And I can hold it in my brain and I could write out the basic skeleton of it on even maybe 20 pieces of paper.
jordan holmes
Double spaced?
Handwritten?
alex jones
And here's the thing.
It's 100% confirmed.
At this point, it's not like I'm looking at something and connecting dots.
This thing is Crystal HD.
dan friesen
This is such classic con man shit.
Like, Alex is sitting up here and going on about how he's figured out the entire globalist plan, and he can hold it in his head and maybe write it out in 20 pages, but he can't seem to just explain it in clear, concise language that doesn't end up turning into a pointless rant of time filler about the devil.
If Alex indeed does have this entire globalist plan figured out, then he has a responsibility to put it out for the people.
If he can write it out, this skeleton, in 20 pages, then he needs to sit his ass down and write it out.
Getting through that 20 pages shouldn't take more than half of one of his daily shows.
He writes it all out.
Like, teach a class, dick.
There's literally no excuse for him not to do that.
Just take one day.
Who cares?
The world keeps on moving.
You'll miss your ability to rant about Putin saying mothers are being outlawed.
Take that day.
Do your business.
Get down to business.
Get really specific.
Cite things clearly.
Don't go off into pointless rants about nothing and the devil.
Just lay out the picture that you claim to see so crystal clearly and everything's proven.
He's not going to do that.
This is all bullshit.
He's just talking shit.
This is abusive.
jordan holmes
You're getting gaslit?
dan friesen
Yes.
This is such a crock of shit.
Clips like that really kind of make me...
I mean, I'm amused by it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
In a loathing kind of way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it is just that, like, I am the Oracle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But the Oracle cannot tell you his ways.
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Do not look behind the curtain, my friend.
I'm not just some lunatic connecting dots.
I'm telling you that because they used hotels in one place, then the fact that they use hotels other places means that...
It's the same people.
dan friesen
It's this sense of like, okay, so what I'm telling you is I've figured everything out.
It's all perfectly proven.
Everything is crystal clear.
So what's going on?
Look, I can't commit to things.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Slow it down.
Just take your time to think through it.
I've got 20 empty pages for you to write on right now.
dan friesen
I would love to do that.
jordan holmes
Typewriter, handwritten.
dan friesen
Look, I'd love to do that.
jordan holmes
Cursive would even work.
dan friesen
I would love to do that, but it's just too much to even really tell you.
So what I can do...
jordan holmes
21 pages then.
dan friesen
Now we're done.
What I can do, because I can hold it all in my head, so what I can do is I can have you tell me a headline and then I can tell you what it means.
jordan holmes
Okay, I like that.
dan friesen
It's not a parlor trick.
jordan holmes
That is nice.
Could you also talk to my dead grandmother?
dan friesen
No, but I know a guy.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
He puts a different hat on.
I can speak to your dead grandmother.
dan friesen
I am Balox Jones.
Soothsayer.
Yeah, I mean, that's all that's going on, though, really, is just like the making a rationalization for why he's not doing the thing that his show is supposed to be.
It's just like, I can hold it all in my head, and that's why I just end up riffing about all this stuff.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
I could give you all the information, but how about you give me the information and I'll move some blocks around and I'll give you different information.
dan friesen
Instead of teaching a class, I would rather do an improv show.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah!
dan friesen
That's all it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty much.
dan friesen
So Alex now lays out the plan about how this all fits together.
Because he's already said that they're going to take out Trump and then that's going to lead to the...
Collapse or whatever.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's also said they're microchipping the people experiencing homelessness because there's something there.
It seems very disconnected.
I don't really understand how it all works.
jordan holmes
Hotels, man.
dan friesen
I don't understand how it all works together.
But in this clip, he tries to bring it all under the umbrella.
And I would say this needs a rewrite.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
This is the takeover.
Step one.
trigger a civil war saying right wingers blew stuff up when trump gets removed they're going to truck bomb and mass shoot and say we did it when they remove trump use that for a total clamp down the economy is going to implode and then there's going to be homeless running around crazy everywhere what all they got to do is have the chinese who supply 90 of the opiates cut those off for about a month Step four.
And it's going to look like a zombie apocalypse.
They've got UN vehicles, hundreds of NGOs running around getting emergency centers ready.
The cover story is it's for the homeless explosion.
They've got microchipping ready.
They call them re-education camps.
It's in the Obama Army Manual from 2014.
dan friesen
So we talked about that already.
So Alex has basically laid out how this microchipping the homeless population plays into the globalist plan.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Again, I have to stress that none of this is in his film Endgame, which is another version of a totally proven crystal clear vision of what the globalists plan for their endgame.
All this stuff about the Chinese cutting off the fentanyl.
jordan holmes
Okay, but they're a decade behind, so when he made Endgame, he didn't realize that they were going to have to update their stuff as, you know, it's like a PlayStation update.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
You gotta just download it.
It takes four or five hours, but you just live through it.
dan friesen
So Trump gets removed.
Then we end up in a situation where right-wing extremists pull off more attacks, but naturally these are false flags.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Like all the other ones have been.
jordan holmes
Right-wingers never commit violence.
dan friesen
Along with this, a civil war will break out and the economy will explode.
At that point, the Chinese can cut off the opiate supply, which will make the homeless population turn into a walking sea of zombies.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then all the old-school Alex Jones FEMA camp fantasies finally come into fruition.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Honestly?
I think that the element of this narrative involving homelessness is kind of superfluous to the larger plot.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
Once a civil war breaks out, I really don't think the government will need any other excuse to enact a form of martial law.
I don't know how people going through opiate withdrawals...
jordan holmes
I mean, which government is my question, Dan.
dan friesen
I don't know how people going through opiate withdrawals is going to raise the stakes from a civil war.
If this were a screenplay and I was giving notes, I would say take that part out.
It just overcomplicates things.
It would make me think that I was talking to a writer who maybe was trying too hard to jam two plots together.
unidentified
Yeah, maybe.
dan friesen
It kind of just doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
Or a Russian novelist.
dan friesen
Also, Alex is just making up that statistic that 90% of opiates come from China.
He may be spiritually right that a majority of fentanyl comes from China, but that's not the totality of the opiate crisis.
You know, he's not taking into account that people who have used fentanyl also probably use other opiates.
You know, it's not like fentanyl disappears and then addicts wouldn't just say, like, I can't use heroin.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, it's just not as good.
It's just not a good enough high.
dan friesen
I understand that fentanyl is way stronger, you know, whatever, but it doesn't...
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Once you go with fentanyl, man, you can't go back.
dan friesen
This is all just completely disconnected from reality.
Like, even more so than normal for Alex.
It's lazy and sloppy.
Although I will say it does feel a lot more like Alex's old work than his current work.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
There are these elements of it that are much more...
Because the FEMA camp stuff was so central to the older days.
And having a lot of that really re-emerge as there's this over-complicated scenario that is going to take place if Alex isn't successful.
And then it all leads to the predetermined destination of Alex being dragged off to a camp.
It is much more reminiscent of that.
But the problem is that he's been goofing off and doing dumb Trump bullshit for the last four years, so those muscles are not as good as they used to be.
He's not good at doing that anymore.
He ends up weaving in this unnecessary homeless population plot that has nothing to do with anything.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's still got a monster of the week.
You know?
He's still got to have a monster of the week.
Just because he has an overarching storyline doesn't mean that you still don't have to fight the gray man every now and again.
dan friesen
Right, but sometimes that gray man, trying to make him connected to the overarching plot is not necessary.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I think he avoided the FEMA camps for a long time because Trump was literally doing all of that stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So he wanted to avoid the...
dan friesen
That did probably put a wrench in him focusing too much on that.
But it's weird, because it's sort of bubbling back up at the same time that he said Trump's committing treason, and then a couple days later said, I'm 100% on board.
jordan holmes
100% on board.
dan friesen
It's weird.
Anyway...
jordan holmes
I mean, well, I mean, Stevie P's committed treason on the show, too.
So it's like, treason is off.
All bets.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Again, I mean, it's value neutral in terms of Alex's world.
So, much like Steve, we have another returning guest here today.
Although we have seen him in the not-too-distant past, but another person who is from Alex's salad days, who is now coming back into the fold.
And he might have gotten a check.
alex jones
So Larry Nichols was Green Beret and then assigned with the CIA and the Clintons.
The Rockefeller Foundation and others helped get the Clintons into office and helped handle them.
He couldn't stand the cocaine being shipped in when the Clintons started killing even neighborhood kids that saw the cocaine, famous cases of those.
So he found Jesus while his dad was dying of cancer.
This is just the back story of it.
And he found Christ and repented and has been fighting him ever since.
He's been a great source of info.
Larry Nichols, and of course he famously exposed Hillary's bisexual activities.
She was on Howard Stern and denied.
And I want to get into that a little bit later with him next segment, but Larry...
dan friesen
As best as I can tell, none of that was true.
None of it.
jordan holmes
Zero percent of that was true.
dan friesen
Yeah, as an introduction, I mean, the most offensive part was Larry has been a good source of information.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the most flagrant lie.
jordan holmes
This, I'm introducing a man who famously got everything wrong.
dan friesen
For decades.
jordan holmes
Which is an accomplishment.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In and of itself.
dan friesen
So Larry's on it.
It's kind of boring, especially compared to the last time when he was saying that Adam Schiff wears Egyptian garb and goes to ritual sacrifices.
jordan holmes
And he didn't even try and blackmail Congress.
dan friesen
No, but at least on his last appearance, when he returned from his long absence, at least there was some juice to it.
unidentified
This time it's more just like, well, we're up against the wall.
dan friesen
Things are bad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Things are bad, Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's very standard.
Boring Infowars guest.
But because they're talking about this and how bad things are for their patriot community or whatever, Alex gets back into that headspace of like, I think it's time to start killing people.
God damn it!
Larry's response is really interesting.
alex jones
So what do you do when you're facing an unlawful rogue government?
He's got to go to the people and prepare to go with the people in the U.S. military.
We're going to have to remove the deep state, which is a rogue coup.
I mean, we've come to that point.
They want to have an illegal bureaucratic coup.
We need the president to call up the damn military, and I'm ready for it.
Let's go.
larry nichols
Well, to be honest, Alex, the one thing we've got left on the face of the earth to save this country, and we've got one, and that is...
unidentified
November 20 or November 2020, the election.
dan friesen
See, Alex is being...
jordan holmes
What the fuck just happened there, Dan?
dan friesen
Larry Nichols is being a voice of reason.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
How dare you?
dan friesen
Alex is being like, we need Trump to get the fucking military to clean out our enemies and the government.
jordan holmes
Burn everything down, kill millions of people.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
Maybe, but I mean, it would escalate.
But what he's saying is, we need Trump to use the military to unseat people that we deem...
To be part of this globalist coup.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is bad, obviously.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And Larry's like, nah man.
We've got an election coming.
We've got to focus on this election.
jordan holmes
Larry's like, hold on one second.
We need to focus on the peaceful transition of power in this country.
Let's hold up until the election happens before we say murder millions of people.
dan friesen
Yeah, but man, if millions of people die, it's just globalists.
So Alex doesn't care about that.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
alex jones
And I don't want this to happen.
Because the globalists are worthless trash.
So millions of them get wiped out in a fight with us?
I don't feel good about that.
That's like when I got to smash cockroaches I find behind the refrigerator.
I just get it done as fast as possible and don't really look at it and throw them in the trash can.
You know, drive the bulldozer and push the bodies into the grave.
I mean, we're not looking forward to this because these people are going to be stacked up to the damn top of the clouds.
And they're really asking for it.
And I'm not going to do anything offensive.
But I can tell you, they're going to blow stuff up and blame it on us.
It's coming like the sun came up this morning.
Larry, I'm ranting.
If you want to join me tomorrow during that special broadcast for an hour of it, you're a welcomer.
dan friesen
So, I mean, if Alex is saying a million globalists are going to die, then this isn't the same conspiracy he's always been talking about.
Because I believe he said there's 60,000 globalists in the past.
I don't think that you could take...
The people who are in these bureaucratic positions and add them up to a million.
Whatever he's talking about is slaughter.
It is a massive...
And he's already said all these Democrats are all globalists now.
They're all Satan worshippers.
The minions.
I mean, this is a horrifying thing that he's suggesting happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
And it's so much like the fucking...
It's just like, whoa, whoa, we can all have an orgy here, but if three or four dudes with the same woman, that defies manliness and all must die!
It's the same shit.
It's just like, oh, the government is doing something that I don't like, I guess, so let's kill millions of people.
Great.
dan friesen
So, I should also say that Alex, one of his main things that he talks about all the time is that the globalists are trying to destroy the family.
And I like the family as the most important unit.
jordan holmes
Right.
A mother, four fathers, two kids, perfect family.
dan friesen
This next clip sounded very strange to me for someone who loves families so much.
alex jones
I don't normally talk like this, but this is war.
People's families need to disown these congressmen.
People's wives need to leave them.
You know, the left tries to bully us, just submit to them.
This isn't bullying.
They're assaulting us.
People need to get really aggressive within legal means against these libtards and these on-the-fence Republicans.
unidentified
Absolutely, and you've got to let them know that we're sending their butts home.
You do the wrong thing.
Trump may lose, but they're going home.
They fear losing their job more than they want.
To get Trump out.
Trust me.
dan friesen
So Alex is saying that if you don't support Trump, your family should be destroyed, which is like, okay, cool.
jordan holmes
So in the last clip, he says, I don't want to do anything offensive.
And in the next clip, he says, we're at war and we should all take offensive measures because we're under assault.
dan friesen
I mean, it is incoherent, but it's intentionally so.
He doesn't want to have us.
In the same way that he's like, I understand crystal clear all the things the globalists are doing, but I won't sit down and just...
Fucking teach a class on it.
It's the same thing.
He wants you to be like, we're in a war, we're being attacked, but I won't do anything offensively, but giving every justification for why whatever you might do is actually defensive, and you probably didn't do it anyway.
It was a globalist false flagging and trying to make us look bad.
Same thing.
Try and keep people in this weird state where you don't know what he's saying.
But what Larry is saying is the same thing he's always been saying.
Which is that these people in Congress are too cowardly to do anything because they need to keep their jobs because when the trouble starts, they become dukes and duchesses.
jordan holmes
Right.
That is true.
dan friesen
He still thinks that.
jordan holmes
He can't possibly still think that.
dan friesen
He does.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
The president becomes king or queen, and everyone in Congress is dukes and duchesses.
jordan holmes
Okay, so then in that case, the Congress people would be super for this happening.
Because then it's just the king and them, dukes and duchesses.
And when you get there, if you've got a lot of dukes and duchesses, well, somebody's going to overthrow that fucking king.
That's just going to happen.
dan friesen
You'd think, yeah, but the king has the Praetorian Guard.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
I forgot about that.
And they're coming for Caesar, too.
He's back for season two.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So now it wouldn't be a Larry Nichols appearance on the show if something completely absurd wasn't said by him.
And we get that here.
unidentified
You have got to engage or it's over.
It's over.
I'm not blowing this out of proportion.
Alex isn't blowing it out of proportion.
My God, Alex.
There's 250,000 UN troops sitting in Cuba that can be here in six hours.
Why are they there?
dan friesen
Why are they there?
Why are they there, Alex?
I have literally no idea where Larry is getting this 250,000 UN troops being in Cuba thing from.
unidentified
It's like 1% of the population of Cuba UN troops.
dan friesen
It would be more than that.
I think the population of Cuba is like 11 million, I think.
unidentified
Yeah, so 250,000 would be like 3% probably.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it would be like more than...
jordan holmes
Taking up a lot of space.
dan friesen
It would be like half of the population of the second largest city in Cuba.
It's absurd to imagine.
jordan holmes
What are they doing there, dude?
dan friesen
Dude, according to the UN, there are 11 UN police officers or experts on missions in Cuba, where they're stationed as part of peacekeeping missions.
unidentified
I don't know.
Does the UN even have 250,000 troops, period?
dan friesen
We'll get to that.
Actually, I misspoke.
There were 11 back in 2017, but now there are only six.
jordan holmes
Okay, well.
dan friesen
If Larry wanted to have a higher number on our border, then he should have gone with Mexico.
But even there, there's only 30. The UN does not have troops in the way that Larry is making the audience think.
They have peacekeeping forces that are stationed in countries around the world, with more being in countries that have greater unrest and less in relatively stable countries.
A lot of what they're there for is monitoring, not actually engaging.
They're there also to assist the country's existing power structures.
Currently, there aren't even 250,000 UN peacekeeping troops in the entire world.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Not even half of that.
The current latest tally is just over 100,000.
They're spread out everywhere.
And about 14,000 of them are not even uniformed individuals.
They're just civilians.
I tried to look up where this information was coming from.
The only other place I could find it reported was a YouTube show called The Common Sense Show.
Which is hosted by a guy sitting at a desk, and he has an American flag there, and a cactus.
jordan holmes
And his name is Harry Lickles.
dan friesen
Don't know why he's got a cactus, but he definitely has a cactus.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So he's interviewing a guy named Paul Martin, who tells him, without citing any source, that there's 250,000 UN troops in Cuba.
The host decides that the most likely reason they're there is that they're planning a jailbreak to free the terrorists being held in Guantanamo.
jordan holmes
I don't think you need 250,000 to break into Guantanamo.
dan friesen
I'm sure he imagines that it's like a full prison with an entire army in it, but he must be forgetting that Obama kept trying to close the detention center, and that led to there only being 40 people there currently.
And honestly, if these imaginary UN troops are planning anything, I would say finishing the job of shutting down Guantanamo, which Trump has refused to do, that's not the worst thing they could do.
jordan holmes
No, I'm fine with that.
Also, I feel like you could probably do a successful jailbreak there with like 10 guys and a montage.
dan friesen
You don't need 250,000.
I have no idea who Paul Martin is, and I have no idea who the host of this show is or why he has a cactus on his desk.
But I heard this show, and I thought, well, this must be where Larry is getting his info from.
It's complete bullshit, but his version matches up exactly with what's being discussed on the show.
Then I listened a little bit longer, and they make clear that their source for this information is Larry Nichols.
jordan holmes
It's a circle.
Time is a flat circle, Dan.
Time is a flat circle.
dan friesen
They treat him as a credible source, but the host does ask, quote, did he say where he got this information from?
To which Paul Martin replies, no, he did not, but he knows a lot of people.
jordan holmes
He knows exactly 250,000 people.
He's asked them all individually.
dan friesen
This is a classic Larry Nichols trick.
He cross-pollinates in right-wing media.
He sews stories in various places, coming through various mouthpieces to create the illusion of a reality behind his stories.
There's not 250,000 UN troops in Cuba, but you'll see the story being reported in multiple dumb-dumb right-wing media outlets because he made it up and told all of them.
He comes from the days of the old school, when you'd plant stories in different tabloids, and that helps to reinforce what you put in this one is backed by this one.
He comes from the 90s of propaganda.
He's doing that, but it's so easy to trace now.
Anyway.
This is kind of how I know all these people are fucking liars and they know it.
Larry Nichols has been wrong about pretty much everything he's ever said.
He's been a terrible repeatedly discredited source for information since the 90s to the present day.
He said Obama was going to suspend the 2016 election so he could remain president, then declare America a Muslim nation to make himself the king of Islam, and he was being abetted by Congress because they'd all get to become dukes and duchesses when he made his move.
And yet, every time he comes out with some completely unsourced, clearly made-up bullshit, these hosts eat it up and treat him like he's got a Hall of Fame batting average.
They know what they're doing.
They know he's full of shit, but they just like the kind of shit he slings.
So to sum this up, this is all not true.
It's just another hoax that Larry has come up with because he's a bored psychopath.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Yeah.
God, can you imagine if the UN even had 250,000 troops?
unidentified
Well, it's interesting.
jordan holmes
People would lose their shit.
dan friesen
Well, it's interesting.
They have proposed that in the past.
And actually, 250,000 was a number that was suggested in the past when they have tried to make these...
These moves.
But it's never happened.
jordan holmes
No, because people would lose their shit.
dan friesen
Right.
But the fact that it's been suggested is what Larry can fall back on when he's trying to substantiate his claim.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, oh, you think they didn't actually make it?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That kind of thing.
jordan holmes
They secretly did it.
Fine.
Whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, that would be where he falls back to if pushed on it.
And I think that that's the reason that he uses the number 250,000.
jordan holmes
Well, when we talked to him, I believe what he would fall back on is, you can believe what you want to believe, and I'll believe what I want to believe, and mine happens to be true.
dan friesen
That is probably also accurate.
So here's how Alex ends the show, and I think it's a bit grim.
alex jones
And I can tell you, the people in Kauai, the people in areas of the Pacific, the people in places like Tasmania, These are the people, like the globalists, who have fled to their redoubts.
New Zealand, where they were supposed to already have their robot fortresses, automated security, so they don't need security.
That's BS.
You know, the guy that comes to do maintenance on their underground bunker is going to dump chlorine bleach down it.
And I'm not happy about any of this, but all these globalists are dead.
They're all deader than doornails as soon as this kicks off.
And then we're going to hunt down the ones that are left in their rat holes by we, the people that are left.
I mean, they are dead.
They are dead, dead, dead.
If they try any of this, if they don't back off 100%, then it's all over.
Their only hope is to surrender now.
God bless you.
Sorry, the other callers.
I promise you, tomorrow I'll be live.
dan friesen
That's, I mean, it's just becoming kind of standard for him to make these, like, you're all dead if you don't back off.
It's much more consistent.
It's pretty regular, and it doesn't feel good.
jordan holmes
Hey, don't make me kill you.
I don't want to do it.
I don't feel good about murdering you.
It'd be terrible, but I have to murder you because you're doing something that I imagine is real, even though it's not.
So you're going to die for it.
dan friesen
Not me, but people I talk to who have killed this.
jordan holmes
Hey, but hold on.
They wouldn't ever use them because all right-wing murders are false flags.
dan friesen
Right.
There is that, too.
And I'm sure that, you know, let's say some globalist redoubt is flooded with chlorine.
False flag.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Where does this fit in with his pre-post-trib rapture thoughts?
dan friesen
Unclear.
jordan holmes
The end of all human life, including the globalists who caused the human life.
Is that part of the trip?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex very heavily promoted on this December 6th episode that he was going to break this big news about the microchipping of the homeless population.
And he was planning to have a surgery where they'd remove one from a person on air.
So obviously, I had to check out the show from Tuesday, December 10th.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
You cannot not do that.
jordan holmes
No, it would be irresponsible of you.
dan friesen
It might surprise you to learn that Alex never got to that big scoop.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
He totally could have.
He spent almost the entire show on the 10th taking calls.
What he was saying he was going to do was a very high preparation presentation.
And what he delivered was something that requires literally no preparation.
What a surprise.
I generally just listen to these episodes since watching Alex really annoys me now.
His facial gestures alternate between this smug condescension and completely tragic deflation, and I find it really uncomfortable to watch.
Adding to that the way he just can't sit still, it's just a visually unpleasant thing to watch, so I usually just listen.
However, I'm glad I tuned into this show on video, because it's Christmas season, so he's updated the big video backdrop screens behind him.
The one to his left is a big fireplace, which is very quaint.
I think the one that's directly behind him misses the mark a little bit, though.
jordan holmes
It's just a Santa hanging from a noose.
dan friesen
That would be on brand.
It's a nighttime shot of a snow-capped mountaintop with a constant trickle of snow slowly falling.
Very serene.
But when it's juxtaposed with Alex wiggling around desperately trying to lie while his face is just screaming defeat...
jordan holmes
It looks like he's freezing to death.
He's got the fireplace right there.
He's trying to survive.
dan friesen
Well, the serenity of it is juxtaposed with the mad desperation.
It's just very bizarre.
There's a stretch on one of these shows where Alex is trying to claim that the media was reporting that Owen Schroer had yelled about lynching Obama when he disrupted the impeachment hearing.
It's very clear that they were reporting that he disrupted the impeachment hearing and had previously on air said, quote, he belongs in Guantanamo Bay.
I mean, look, I'm not saying this should happen, but Barack Obama, you know, find the tallest tree in a rope.
It would be pointless to put him in Guantanamo Bay, since we already know there's 250 UN troops that would just bust him out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what they're waiting for, essentially.
dan friesen
So Alex is trying to pretend that media is saying that he said these things about Obama when he disrupted, when it's clear that it's bullshit.
Alex's face as he's trying to thread this needle is really sad.
You can see the recognition in his face that there's tape of Owen Troyer saying those things.
You can see him being fully aware that if any of his listeners actually read the articles he's citing in Vanity Fair or Salon, they'll see that Alex is lying about what they're claiming about Owen's disruption of the proceedings.
You can see him flailing.
You can see in his eyes that the gears are moving, but they're fully aware that it doesn't matter if the gears move.
He's spinning plates for no reason.
And the soft falling snow behind him makes the tableau more profoundly depressing.
And that's not even saying anything about how bad the optics are when he's rambling about how you should buy his dumb pills because shopping anywhere else is giving money to Satan while the snow slowly falls.
It's very weird.
So he doesn't get to his big story because there is no big story.
I went back and checked his Saturday, Sunday, and Monday shows to be sure and nope.
No in-studio surgeries.
No big bombshells.
All just hype for nothing.
On the 6th, Alex was saying that they had everything confirmed.
They had all the footage, they had the interviews, they had the documents.
He set a date for the breaking of this big story, and that date came and it fucking went.
He had five days to smooth out the edges, which seemed like it was just a matter, as he was saying, of filling out HIPAA forms.
That doesn't take long.
It couldn't be more obvious what happened here.
Alex thought this kind of a publicity stunt was going to be a good option for him to get attention.
But then Owen Schroyer disrupted the impeachment inquiry, which was a way more potent option for free press.
So he just ran with that and completely forgot that he promised a big reveal of this bobshell that would bring down the fucking globalists.
Or, I don't know, maybe he had to push it back because he couldn't get that HIPAA form sorted out.
We're recording this on Wednesday, so I have no idea if he finally took down the globalists on Wednesday's show.
One day late, I guess we'll have to see.
The note that I want to leave things on here is this.
It's been a long time since I've watched Alex's show.
And he absolutely doesn't look the same as I remember.
It's not about his beard or the weight fluctuations that happen.
In fact, I would say he looks slimmer than I remember.
But he looks crushed.
Even when he's ranting about winning, his eyes are hollow and flat.
His facial gestures come off contrived, and he's constantly looking at the clock, so he knows how long he has until he needs to dismount from his current nonsense, so he'll have time to get an ad in before the commercial breaks.
His anger reads more like frustration now.
His rants about the evil globalists trying to take him down now seem more sincere, but only when he's yelling about how he has to take the trash out, you know, like around the office.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You know, there's frustration that's real.
It's just adding the visual component is bleak.
Yeah.
There's one thing that stuck out to me the most in these other days of shows.
It was from his Sunday show.
Where he's responding to the part in Josh Owens' article where he says that Alex called him and said that he wants to quit.
alex jones
I'm the opposite of wanting to quit doing the show.
I'm wanting to give up.
I may have to quit just because I can't handle caring this much.
And I see everything now and I'm just reaching a point where I just can't do it.
Every little point.
Every article, I think of a thousand other articles.
Every lie they put out, I can pull up a whole system of their lies and know how they sat around in a think tank and how they cooked up the decision.
And then years later, I'll be reading some white paper or government report and hear about a committee meeting and they say exactly what I envisioned word for word in the meetings I knew was going on.
I mean, I've studied them so much and how evil they are that I'm inside their head and they're inside mine and I can't stand it.
dan friesen
That's just fucking absurd.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Alex hasn't studied these globalists so closely that he's in their heads and can predict their every move.
He hasn't even read any of the articles he claims he can connect with a thousand other articles, and he expects anyone to give him credit for psychic-level scholarship about a secret group that runs the world?
That's childish shit.
Get the fuck out of here with that.
This is just a propagandist who realizes his time is up, and it's a desperate way for him to go out looking good in the case that that happens.
He's no Bill Cooper, so he's not going out like that.
He knows everyone's laughing at David Icke, so he's not going down that path either.
The way he's making it sound here, he's preparing for him to be the one-world government conspiracy version of that 45-year-old who's at the bar talking about his glory days playing high school football.
Now he could have made the NFL.
You can hear resignation, but an insistence that everyone know that even if he gives up, he knows everything, and he could have stopped the globalists.
If only people had bought more of his pills, and he would have been allowed on Facebook.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I mean, it's just a preemptive justification for, like, this is all going to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, I just can't handle the burden of being the person who can win.
Yeah.
unidentified
I heard that and I was like, this is just like a bummer.
dan friesen
Slowly falling snow behind you.
jordan holmes
He's a fragile little boy.
unidentified
It's really paper thin.
It's just like...
jordan holmes
When the kid was having a tantrum and it was so loud and boisterous and he filled this adult man's body, you're like, ah, this is fun and scary.
And now you see just a very small 12-year-old boy who can't sit still, who is afraid of anything that's different, who can't handle the idea of masculinity being different than his own.
And who is a giant white supremacist.
dan friesen
And he's also dealing with the disillusionment of this sort of father figure in Trump who he thought would protect him, who thought he would bring about all of the things that he's going to get me a pony or whatever.
unidentified
I imagine this is when he was 12 all over again.
dan friesen
Trump's going to get him a pony in the form of kicking out all the immigrants.
He's disillusioned that that isn't coming.
And not only is it not coming, this person's not even going to protect me.
So he's having this crisis.
Everything he's saying is nonsense, but he's proven it all.
And there is no in-studio surgery that he's promised.
This is just shit.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't be surprised if this was so reminiscent of when he was 12 and his dad's like, the communists are coming to take over and they're going to kill all of us.
None of that happened.
dan friesen
It certainly narratively seems possible.
I wouldn't want to speculate on that just because it feels like...
Personal.
We have no idea.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying Alex's last word is going to be rosebud, buddy.
That's all I'm saying.
dan friesen
You could write a really interesting creative nonfiction story that follows that path.
But it may or may not be true.
Anyway, I just...
I mean, this present day is getting weird.
This show is crazy.
This show is nuts.
I love the stuff where he's talking about how orgies are manly.
Like, because I would probably listen to a show if it was all that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Alex getting into, like, being Tom Likas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would like to know exactly where he stands on all kinds of shit like that.
Like, a polyamorous relationship.
Nope, no, no more than one dude or a bunch of dudes and a bunch of ladies.
Can't do the other way around.
dan friesen
Can you imagine, like, Alex...
jordan holmes
A harem is fine, but not the reverse.
dan friesen
Goddammit, if this all falls apart and Alex starts doing, like...
A love line type show?
That would be amazing.
Giving kids terrible advice.
jordan holmes
Listen, you don't even need to ask where I stand on pegging.
I'll tell you that right fucking now.
dan friesen
It's not manly.
jordan holmes
Also, I love it, but...
dan friesen
That sort of stuff is so insane and so out of step with what he thinks his show is that I find it kind of...
jordan holmes
With what he thinks he is?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I find that kind of delightful on some level, even though it is gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, man, when you got a show in a situation where he's building this stuff up about the, like, I'm going to cut this out of a guy's arm, and it's just such a bust, I can handle that, too.
Like, in the present day, I can handle that.
That's fun.
That's good fun.
jordan holmes
You just shouldn't be allowed to do that.
Your audience shouldn't allow it.
That's violating Chekhov's one big rule.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Especially the way that that Tuesday show was just him taking calls.
Yeah.
That's a disrespect.
jordan holmes
If you have a gun on the mantelpiece, man, leave that gun alone.
It's scary.
dan friesen
Jones' gun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we'll see what happens.
We'll be back on Monday.
Of next week.
jordan holmes
It sounds like a plan.
dan friesen
Monday and Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we're not just going to be covering the present day stuff.
Just wanted to get back up to speed.
Probably have a present day episode on Monday going over the rest of this week just in case he does that survey.
We'll see.
jordan holmes
We will see.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at Knowledge underscore Fightin at GoToBedJordan.
dan friesen
And Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook and we are also on iTunes.
You can download, you can leave a review, etc.
Spotify.
I don't know.
You guys listen.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I am Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I get my own groceries and I kick my own ass.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
Export Selection