Knowledge Fight - #376: December 3-5, 2019
Aired: 2019-12-10
Duration: 02:23:45


=== Welcome Back to Knowledge Fight (05:21) ===

[00:00:21]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:30]  Dan and Jordan.
[00:00:31]  I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody.
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:02]  We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Indeed we are, Dan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Dan!
[00:01:09]  Jordan.
[00:01:10]  As we enter our fourth year, perhaps you could even describe it as our fourth season?
[00:01:16]  Sure.
[00:01:16]  My question to you is, what's your favorite season of Lost, obviously?
[00:01:19]  Well, that's a tough question.
[00:01:21]  I mean, the first one, it's so shrouded in mystery.
[00:01:23]  Everything is discovering the island.
[00:01:26]  What is it about?
[00:01:27]  Who is this Locke character?
[00:01:28]  What's going on?
[00:01:29]  Why is he walking?
[00:01:30]  The mystery is at its highest point in the first season.
[00:01:33]  Yeah, there's a lot of excitement.
[00:01:34]  There's a lot of absurdity, too.
[00:01:36]  But I don't know.
[00:01:38]  It's really hard to say.
[00:01:39]  You love Lost so much.
[00:01:41]  Yeah, there's a little bit of toughness for me in the...
[00:01:45]  I didn't care too much about how they resolved some of the mysteries of the island.
[00:01:51]  I thought a lot of that was kind of soft in the last season, but I did like the finale, whichever one.
[00:01:56]  It's very polarizing.
[00:01:59]  A lot of people have different opinions about it, but I did enjoy the finale.
[00:02:02]  I would say everything but the season where they're traveling in time a lot.
[00:02:08]  That one was...
[00:02:10]  Not that I thought it was bad.
[00:02:12]  Right, right, right.
[00:02:13]  Whatever.
[00:02:14]  Right.
[00:02:14]  Time travel is tough to pull off.
[00:02:16]  Yeah.
[00:02:16]  I think probably the best season of it as a whole is probably, I think it's the second season when they find the hatch.
[00:02:25]  Okay.
[00:02:26]  It's the end of the first season and then they go, yeah.
[00:02:29]  Where the mystery of the Dharma Initiative and all that starts to...
[00:02:34]  It starts to form.
[00:02:36]  Right, right, right.
[00:02:36]  I think probably season two.
[00:02:38]  Excellent.
[00:02:39]  All right.
[00:02:39]  This is a podcast where I have a lot of feelings about Lost.
[00:02:41]  Also, I know a lot about Alex Jones.
[00:02:43]  And I have no feelings about Lost, and I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
[00:02:46]  That's correct.
[00:02:46]  Yep.
[00:02:47]  So, Jordan, today we got a roundup of last week, sort of.
[00:02:51]  It was my intention to cover last week's goings-on on the Alex Jones Show.
[00:02:57]  Of course!
[00:02:58]  And get us through and up to speed.
[00:03:00]  And what I did is, you know, we start on the 3rd, December 3rd, and we get until I had enough.
[00:03:07]  That is about what...
[00:03:10]  What form this is going to take.
[00:03:12]  Hey!
[00:03:12]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, everybody.
[00:03:14]  We're off of our break.
[00:03:17]  And it turns out I can make it until December 5th before I get sick of Alex's nonsense.
[00:03:22]  That'll happen.
[00:03:23]  So today, we'll be going over that.
[00:03:25]  But before we do, I've got to take a little moment to say thank you.
[00:03:27]  Some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
[00:03:29]  So, first of all, William, thank you so much.
[00:03:31]  You're now a policy wonk.
[00:03:32]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:33]  Thank you, William.
[00:03:34]  Thank you, William.
[00:03:34]  Next, Keith.
[00:03:35]  Thank you so much.
[00:03:36]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:03:37]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:38]  Thank you, Keith.
[00:03:39]  Next, Abigail.
[00:03:40]  Thank you so much.
[00:03:41]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:03:42]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:43]  Thank you, Abigail.
[00:03:44]  I like an Abigail.
[00:03:45]  Sure.
[00:03:46]  Next, John.
[00:03:47]  Thank you so much.
[00:03:48]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:03:49]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:50]  Thank you, John.
[00:03:51]  Thank you, John.
[00:03:52]  Next, Matt.
[00:03:53]  Thank you so much.
[00:03:53]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:03:55]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:56]  Thank you, Matt.
[00:03:56]  Thank you, Matt.
[00:03:57]  And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
[00:04:01]  We appreciate that very much.
[00:04:02]  So, Pasta Claw, thank you so much.
[00:04:04]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:04:05]  And Matty, with an I, thank you so much.
[00:04:07]  You are now a technocrat.
[00:04:09]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:04:11]  Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
[00:04:12]  Have yourself a brew.
[00:04:14]  How's your 401k doing, bro?
[00:04:15]  We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
[00:04:18]  Let's just get down to business.
[00:04:19]  We ain't making that money off that heroin.
[00:04:21]  Why are you pimp so good?
[00:04:23]  My neck is freakishly large.
[00:04:25]  I declare Infowar on you.
[00:04:28]  Thank you so much, Pasta Claw and Matty.
[00:04:30]  Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
[00:04:32]  If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
[00:04:38]  We would appreciate it.
[00:04:39]  Yeah, that would be very helpful.
[00:04:41]  So, Jordan, like I said, we're going over the December 3rd, 4th, and 5th today from last week on Alex's show.
[00:04:47]  And they're actually, I think that they're each really interesting in their own right.
[00:04:51]  And one of the reasons is they...
[00:04:53]  Are fairly disconnected from each other.
[00:04:55]  Naturally, that sounds right.
[00:04:56]  Each episode is almost a bottle episode.
[00:04:59]  Some of the things are internally inconsistent.
[00:05:02]  Some things are like there's a progression going in one direction and then it seems completely abruptly dropped.
[00:05:09]  Naturally?
[00:05:09]  It's very bizarre.
[00:05:11]  Alright, so we're ignoring our overarching narratives here in favor of a recap episode.
[00:05:18]  Well, there is one overarching narrative and that is that Alex needs money.
[00:05:22]  Okay, there we go.
[00:05:22]  That's definitely pretty consistent.
[00:05:25]  If you're looking for a through line, like on Lost, there's a through line.

=== Elon Musk's Brain Chip Vision (07:42) ===

[00:05:31]  It's that Alex needs money.
[00:05:32]  But on the 3rd, it's largely about how Alex wants to talk to David Icke.
[00:05:40]  David Icke is a guest for two hours.
[00:05:42]  That's too many hours.
[00:05:44]  We'll talk about that here in a second.
[00:05:46]  But before we do, here's how Alex gets going on the show.
[00:05:50]  Complaining about Elon Musk.
[00:05:53]  I would encourage listeners and viewers, as a lot of you do, to actually look into what I say and what I claim because 99% of the time you can easily just go find it.
[00:06:02]  But it's from the globalist perspective telling you how great it is that, oh, next year Tesla's going to roll out not just brain chips but dozens of wires put into your brain.
[00:06:15]  But it's essential that it not be done at a hospital because that sounds too medical and scary, brain surgery.
[00:06:20]  So it's done at little kiosk at the mall where you just step in like you look at a Tesla car and sign up and they don't worry, a robot cuts a hole in the back of your head and sticks some wires in there and you sign the waiver forms and then you walk out and all your friends go, oh, you're so cool, you're a cyborg now.
[00:06:40]  You're so cool, you're a cyborg now.
[00:06:43]  I love that.
[00:06:45]  I love that idea.
[00:06:46]  And I would also like to meet the, if I know anything about mall kiosks, the very put-upon employee there who is staring into nothingness all day.
[00:06:55]  I'd like to get a brain chip that allows me to enjoy Orange Julius more.
[00:06:59]  I think of other stores that only exist in malls.
[00:07:03]  So the story Alex is talking about here is Elon Musk coming out and saying that his company Neuralink was working on an implantable brain chip, which he hopes could greater merge human and AI intelligence, as well as completely eliminate a number of conditions like schizophrenia and Alzheimer's.
[00:07:19]  Right.
[00:07:20]  Leaving aside the fact that his miracle cure language is absurd, and almost certainly something he can't back up, the larger reality is that this is a project that is not going anywhere.
[00:07:30]  Now you put a chip in the brain, Dan!
[00:07:32]  Done!
[00:07:32]  According to the Observer, when asked if these chips would, quote, allow us to ultimately ride the wave of improving AI systems, Elon Musk's response was, quote, I think the chance is above 0%.
[00:07:44]  Oh, good.
[00:07:45]  He thinks the chance is above 0%, which means that it's very possible that he's wrong and the chance is in fact 0%.
[00:07:53]  Yeah.
[00:07:53]  The important element to this story is how Alex engages with news.
[00:07:57]  We've talked about this before, but it's an important thing to point out, particularly in the wake of that New York Times story from his past employee, Josh Owens, which we'll talk about a little bit later.
[00:08:07]  Alex says that 99% of the time you can easily find things he's talking about, but from a globalist perspective.
[00:08:14]  That's how Alex lies, and how he makes it acceptable for his audience to be completely unable to confirm any of the things he says and then keep on believing him.
[00:08:23]  So, the globalist perspective you can find on this story is that media outlets covered Elon Musk making braggadocious claims about his company having a miracle cure implant that will also give people access to, quote, a tertiary layer of digital superintelligence.
[00:08:38]  That's what I've always wanted.
[00:08:39]  It would be great.
[00:08:40]  Yeah, no, that'd be sweet.
[00:08:42]  I love tertiary shit.
[00:08:43]  Sure.
[00:08:44]  Most of those articles are critical, about Musk in general, and more specifically about how medical science and the understanding of how the brain works isn't even close to a place where something like what Musk is proposing could be done.
[00:08:55]  Experts I've heard talk about it seem to think that the most likely outcome of all this is just developing better versions of already existing technology to do things like improve prosthetic limb robotics.
[00:09:06]  One neurobiologist who spoke to Business Insider called the plan to merge AI with human brains, quote, aspirational fantasy land.
[00:09:14]  While giving the caveat that it's hard to predict what we'll be able to do in like 30 years, 20 years.
[00:09:19]  I hope that's not aspirational.
[00:09:20]  That's terrifying.
[00:09:23]  That's fantasy land that's a fucking dystopic nightmare of artificial intelligence controlling our very own brains.
[00:09:30]  I feel like aspirational fantasy land is value neutral in some ways.
[00:09:36]  You could have a terrible fantasy.
[00:09:38]  But, see, that's the globalist perspective that you'll find, according to Alex.
[00:09:42]  Sure.
[00:09:43]  This is what you will see in the news.
[00:09:45]  Right.
[00:09:45]  If you're one of Alex's listeners, you'll try and track down the story that he's telling, and this is what you'll find.
[00:09:52]  And it doesn't at all match Alex's talk of brain surgery being done at the kiosk between the Auntie Anne's pretzels and the Hot Topic.
[00:09:59]  But that's okay, because all the stories you'll find are just the globalist perspective.
[00:10:04]  It's their spin on the news, whereas Alex knows everything.
[00:10:07]  He's researched everything, so he can read between the lines.
[00:10:10]  His version of it is the truth, which is only further established by the fact that no one but him is saying it.
[00:10:16]  This is just lying.
[00:10:18]  But it's structural lying.
[00:10:20]  It's a self-aware deception, because it includes a built-in explanation for why anything you may try to confirm will prove that he's wrong.
[00:10:27]  It's because he's just making shit up.
[00:10:29]  He knows that you can get your ear pierced at the mall and he's just kind of riffing on that.
[00:10:33]  That's the sense I get.
[00:10:34]  Yeah, you put wires in somebody's brain.
[00:10:36]  Sure.
[00:10:37]  I like that idea of his functionality of the kiosk is, if I understand correctly, there's going to be a weird saw after you walk into the kiosk.
[00:10:48]  There's going to be a saw that opens up the back of your head and then they're just going to jam a bunch of wires in there.
[00:10:53]  Done and done.
[00:10:55]  Problem solved.
[00:10:55]  Well, from what I was reading, there is actually like a machine that Musk is proposing and using that would implant the chips.
[00:11:03]  The chips, right.
[00:11:04]  Yeah.
[00:11:04]  But not a shit ton of wires.
[00:11:06]  Oh, there are wires.
[00:11:07]  And actually, it's one of the biggest innovations that people are talking about.
[00:11:10]  The wires that would go from the chips to the whatever.
[00:11:15]  That's cool as shit.
[00:11:17]  One of the problems with brain implants and stuff is the rigidity of wires and how it can cause damage to structures in the brain.
[00:11:25]  Yeah, that's what I was thinking, that you're just jamming wires into somebody's brain and killing them, essentially.
[00:11:30]  And so one of the hopes is that along the way, Elon Musk will be able to develop...
[00:11:36]  More jellious wires or something like that.
[00:11:38]  Something that could be used in those medical applications.
[00:11:41]  Right, right, right.
[00:11:41]  So that's the kind of realistic hope that people, like neurobiologists, at least the ones that I read in these articles, were talking about.
[00:11:49]  Those sorts of incidental sort of technological medical advances that come along the way when someone has aspirational fantasy as their target.
[00:12:00]  I prefer those things to the kiosk.
[00:12:03]  I'm going to go that way.
[00:12:04]  Yeah.
[00:12:04]  That's my opinion.
[00:12:05]  I would say so.
[00:12:07]  So Alex then gets around to, after he rambles about this a little bit, he does a full segment of plugs.
[00:12:13]  Like, it's ten straight minutes of just commercial on air.
[00:12:18]  And he's like, whew, this is exhausting.
[00:12:21]  So he does that, and then he goes to break, and he comes back.
[00:12:24]  One thing I didn't add last segment, something very exciting that we've been working on.
[00:12:31]  Third dimensionally, the left doesn't want you to exercise your speech.
[00:12:35]  You know that.
[00:12:35]  What?
[00:12:36]  But when you do it, it gives other people faith and other people get really excited.
[00:12:41]  I can't tell you how many times I walk in the door and my children or my wife or my parents or my friends say, I was hiking through the woods and up on a rock face.
[00:12:54]  I saw bumper stickers all over cars, and it just excites people.

=== Infomercial Shit Storm (07:58) ===

[00:13:02]  And it spreads the word.
[00:13:03]  And Infowars has been so demonized that it really is now a symbol of resistance against everything the globalists stand for.
[00:13:11]  And so I went to my great graphics design folks, and I said, I want 15 new stickers.
[00:13:17]  Document cam shot, please.
[00:13:19]  I said, I want 15 new stickers.
[00:13:22]  So he did 10 minutes, like a full break-to-break infomercial.
[00:13:27]  Yeah.
[00:13:27]  Goes to commercial, comes back, and now he's selling stickers.
[00:13:30]  Right back into commercial.
[00:13:31]  15 new stickers.
[00:13:33]  Love it.
[00:13:33]  They're amazing.
[00:13:34]  15 new stickers?
[00:13:35]  New designs.
[00:13:36]  Oh, boy.
[00:13:36]  Put them up on stop signs.
[00:13:38]  I kind of halfway thought he was like, we only made 15 more stickers.
[00:13:41]  That's all we can afford right now.
[00:13:43]  That's next week.
[00:13:44]  Yeah.
[00:13:45]  His angle on it.
[00:13:46]  It's just excessive.
[00:13:47]  Yeah.
[00:13:47]  It's pretty, pretty fucking excessive.
[00:13:49]  And I think one of the reasons for that is that he had announced that David Icke was going to be on the show, and I think he was hoping for a little bit of, like...
[00:13:57]  Increased exposure.
[00:13:59]  Right.
[00:13:59]  More attention.
[00:14:00]  So get the infomercial in in the first hour.
[00:14:02]  Then David Icke comes in for the second and third hour.
[00:14:05]  Right.
[00:14:06]  And then, bada bing, money.
[00:14:08]  Because the people who are in it for David Icke are just going to turn it off after the interview.
[00:14:11]  Most likely.
[00:14:12]  So get your plugs in while they're anticipating the interview.
[00:14:15]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:15]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:16]  I gotcha.
[00:14:16]  So like I said, this show is largely like this infomercial shit and like really trying to sell stuff.
[00:14:21]  And then the David Icke.
[00:14:22]  Right.
[00:14:23]  And so here's Alex's introduction to David Icke.
[00:14:25]  And I think this is hilarious.
[00:14:27]  Before there was Alex Jones on the scene, there was David Icke, I remember.
[00:14:33]  He blasted on the scene in the early 1990s.
[00:14:35]  He'd been a top British broadcasting host of their morning shows, nighttime shows, sports programs.
[00:14:42]  I mean, he was a mainstay of the UK and really around the world.
[00:14:48]  And then he had a, I guess, Saul on the road to Damascus moment.
[00:14:56]  Complete mental breakdown, yes.
[00:14:57]  Hit by that bolt of light and suddenly saw a whole different paradigm view of the universe.
[00:15:05]  This is really funny to me on a couple levels.
[00:15:09]  The first is that Alex is saying that David Icke had a Saul on the road to Damascus moment when his whole perspective changed.
[00:15:15]  Yeah.
[00:15:15]  It would be fair to say that Icke definitely had a shift in his paradigm after he was struck by lightning or whatever happened to him when he was in Peru, but it seems strange to compare his experience to that of Saul.
[00:15:25]  Saul was a Pharisee who was intent on destroying Christianity.
[00:15:29]  Then he had an experience on the road to Damascus and changed his ways, becoming the Apostle Paul, eventually being one of the primary forces that spread Christianity in its early days.
[00:15:38]  As well as the conspiracy theory that all Pharisees were lizard people, Dan.
[00:15:43]  He's the same guy!
[00:15:44]  Approximately half of the New Testament is attributed to have been written by Paul.
[00:15:49]  Conversely, David Icke, having this life-changing event, proceeded to go on Terry Wogan's BBC chat show and declare himself the son of God, which is a little bit different of a trajectory.
[00:15:58]  Slightly.
[00:15:59]  You can go find that interview, and if you do, it's sincerely uncomfortable to watch.
[00:16:04]  Ike is just saying these things and the audience is laughing, which Ike tries to play off as people being joyful.
[00:16:09]  Then Wogan jumps in and clarifies that the crowd is laughing at him and not with him.
[00:16:14]  Okay, thanks, Wogan.
[00:16:15]  It's just so goddamn uncomfortable.
[00:16:17]  That was rude.
[00:16:18]  Yeah.
[00:16:18]  Let him have his aspirational fantasy land.
[00:16:22]  I don't know.
[00:16:22]  I think at a certain point you have a duty as a broadcaster.
[00:16:26]  The second reason this is particularly funny as an introduction for David Icke is that Alex Jones didn't always have such a high view of David Icke.
[00:16:34]  Before there was Alex Jones, there was David Icke, he says.
[00:16:37]  Not before there was Alex Jones, there was Bill Cooper.
[00:16:40]  No, David Icke is the Alex Jones prototype.
[00:16:43]  That's really bizarre, because here's what Alex had to say about David Icke in the year 2000, when he was being interviewed by John Ronson.
[00:16:51]  We had a lot of different producers.
[00:16:52]  You just get tired of the real meat and potatoes, the real issues.
[00:16:56]  So he's gone for all the ridiculous Hollywood stuff of David Icke and the blood-drinking lizard people.
[00:17:02]  So what does David Icke do?
[00:17:04]  He talks about the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, these global elitists, these power structures, all real, all true, all demonstrated by bills and executive orders and prime ministers and premiers and presidents.
[00:17:16]  All real, meat and potatoes.
[00:17:18]  Something you can bite into.
[00:17:20]  Something that is easily demonstrable.
[00:17:24]  And then you've got David Icke at the end of all this.
[00:17:26]  He says, by the way, they're blood-drinking lizards.
[00:17:30]  Al Gore needs blood to drink.
[00:17:32]  So does Prince Philip.
[00:17:33]  I mean, it's asinine.
[00:17:35]  And it's being picked up by people, and so it discredits all of the reality that people are talking about.
[00:17:39]  And that's the problem with David Icke.
[00:17:42]  He's got a good line to a point, and then he discredits it all.
[00:17:45]  It's like a turd in the punch bowl.
[00:17:46]  That's his job.
[00:17:47]  He's got this nice big thing, this nice fruit punch, nice ice cube floating around in it, and then he takes a big dump right in the middle of it, and no one's going to drink out of that punch bowl.
[00:17:57]  But is he in league with them to do that?
[00:18:00]  I think he knows what he has to do in a controlled world to get away with what he's doing and be given attention.
[00:18:06]  And he's either a smart opportunist con man or he's completely insane or he's working for them directly.
[00:18:12]  But I kind of think he's just a con man who understands how things works and is just a real opportunist.
[00:18:19]  Alex says that David Icke is a misinformation guy because he says a lot of true things but then throws in the blood-drinking stuff as a turd in the punch bowl so no one will ever get into the real stuff.
[00:18:30]  They'll associate the real stuff with this nonsense about vampires.
[00:18:34]  They'll just think it's all bullshit.
[00:18:36]  It's so hilarious to hear something like that.
[00:18:40]  And imagine how Alex Jones of the year 2000 would review his own show in 2019.
[00:18:46]  I would go with, you could just use the same words.
[00:18:50]  I imagine he'd call himself a con man.
[00:18:51]  Yeah!
[00:18:52]  Yeah, and he's embraced the whole Prince Andrew drinks blood thing.
[00:18:56]  That didn't take long at all.
[00:18:58]  He's embraced all of the things that he used to say were the reasons David Icke is a con man.
[00:19:03]  Yes, yes.
[00:19:04]  And that's mainly because he's a con man.
[00:19:06]  Except for the reptile shapeshifters, but he's kind of in on that too.
[00:19:11]  Yeah, I don't think he's that far away from it.
[00:19:13]  No, he just calls them interdimensional beings or something.
[00:19:15]  Oh, they're demons!
[00:19:17]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:19:18]  That would be silly to think that lizard were people.
[00:19:21]  They're demons!
[00:19:22]  So Alex continues his introduction.
[00:19:24]  This is just one of the more embarrassing introductions.
[00:19:27]  I mean, based on that part alone, just like the fact that Alex has morphed into all of the negative parts of his prior characterization.
[00:19:37]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:19:39]  But then, man, this is just sad.
[00:19:42]  So I want to cover the waterfront today.
[00:19:44]  He's been on hiatus writing books, making films.
[00:19:47]  I was saying, hey, I've been on in a couple years.
[00:19:49]  Why?
[00:19:49]  He said, I've just had my head down.
[00:19:51]  So, Alex says that David Icke has both been on hiatus and also been making films and books, which is not what a hiatus is.
[00:19:58]  No, he's on hiatus from what?
[00:20:00]  Not making books and films?
[00:20:01]  I guess.
[00:20:02]  If I had to, you know, assume what he means, I think that when Alex says hiatus, he means he's not been answering my messages, which makes a bit of sense.
[00:20:11]  Could be.
[00:20:11]  On September 8th, 2016, David Icke gave a little interview on the streets of New York City when he was in town to give a lecture.
[00:20:19]  Everything about this interview is super notable, because while Alex and Infowars are never named, the entire thing is a complete fuck you to Alex Jones.
[00:20:28]  For one, the interview is being conducted by Luke Radowski from We Are Change.
[00:20:32]  That's a dude who was down with Alex from day one.
[00:20:35]  We Are Changed is a loose-knit collective of people with cameras who go and yell at people and do confrontational stuff on the street.

=== David Icke's Transformative Claim (09:20) ===

[00:20:42]  Sure, great.
[00:20:42]  They're mostly relevant because of 9-11 conspiracies and promoting Ron Paul's campaigns for president.
[00:20:47]  Right.
[00:20:48]  In terms of overlap with Alex, there are few groups that you could say were more in line with him in those early years.
[00:20:53]  The fact that it's Luke Radowski conducting this interview really brings into sharp focus that it's Alex that changed.
[00:21:00]  More importantly, the actual content of this interview is absolutely scathing.
[00:21:05]  And very clearly directed at Alex, calling him an embarrassment for supporting Trump.
[00:21:11]  Here's David Icke laying out the theme.
[00:21:13]  The alternative media's basic foundation in relation to politics has been that, in effect, it doesn't matter who you vote for because the same hidden hand gets in.
[00:21:26]  So it doesn't matter if it's Republican or Democrat or Labour or Conservative in Britain.
[00:21:30]  Basically the same political class.
[00:21:33]  Is in control, and thus nothing changes.
[00:21:36]  It's actually deeper than that, the reason nothing changes, but that's fair enough at that level as well.
[00:21:42]  Since the emergence of Donald Trump, suddenly much of that has changed.
[00:21:47]  Suddenly Donald Trump, this vacuous, demagogic man who just comes out with stock.
[00:22:00]  phrases about everything without any substance, without any explanation of how these things are going to This man who plays on people's fears, on people's prejudices, that somehow this man is going to take on what they call the globalists.
[00:22:21]  And as a result of that, the narrative has changed in these parts of the alternative media from...
[00:22:30]  You can't trust any of them.
[00:22:31]  It's all a rigged system.
[00:22:33]  Actually, it is rigged against Trump in favour of Clinton.
[00:22:38]  And what I see is some areas of the alternative media becoming little more than an alternative Fox News.
[00:22:49]  Alex.
[00:22:50]  Yeah.
[00:22:51]  And I think that there's a broader indictment of a lot of quote-unquote alternative media.
[00:22:56]  Sure.
[00:22:57]  Breitbart and the like.
[00:22:58]  But it's very clearly...
[00:23:00]  Globalists.
[00:23:01]  Well, that's a big part of it.
[00:23:03]  And from other context clues, you can tell this is mostly about Alex Jones.
[00:23:07]  And look, David Icke sucks.
[00:23:09]  But, I mean, you can at least say that he wasn't a Trump guy.
[00:23:12]  And he's guilty of the same things that he accuses Trump of, but...
[00:23:15]  Maybe.
[00:23:16]  Moving on.
[00:23:16]  He was one of the many, along with people like Wayne Madsen and Webster Tarpley, who had a change of heart about Alex Jones when he went full-on Trump supporter.
[00:23:23]  And this is the most likely explanation for why he's been on hiatus and hasn't been on the show for a while.
[00:23:29]  Because he thinks supporting Trump is embarrassing.
[00:23:31]  And don't take my word for it.
[00:23:33]  Here is David Icke saying that supporting Trump is embarrassing.
[00:23:37]  His foreign policy for, quote, ISIS is to baby...
[00:23:42]  What was his words, basically?
[00:23:44]  Bomb the shit out of him.
[00:23:45]  This is a man that parts of the alternative media are pushing for president on the basis that this is going to be transformative and stop the expansion of this new world order global state.
[00:24:05]  It's ridiculous.
[00:24:07]  And why it's happening, there's probably many reasons for it, but it's...
[00:24:14]  For me, it borders on the embarrassing for the alternative media.
[00:24:18]  That 2016 interview is a shot at Alex.
[00:24:21]  His old buddy Luke Radowski, someone who Alex basically put on the map, is interviewing one of the biggest figures in the world of weirdos, and the entire thing is more or less an indictment of what Alex has become.
[00:24:31]  Not to put too fine a point on this, but David Icke showing back up on Alex's show seems like an indication that either Icke is desperate for attention, Which seems pretty unlikely.
[00:24:40]  He has his own big world cottage industry of his own.
[00:24:43]  Or Alex has reached a point of allowing guests on who are harshly critical of Trump or have been in the past if he thinks that there's some publicity in it for him.
[00:24:52]  I feel like the slow pivot away is continuing.
[00:24:55]  Alex, you know, everything you need to know about him, he said in that clip from 19 years ago about David Icke.
[00:25:02]  Alex has now come to the point where he's a purveyor of all of the stuff he used to say was a turd in the punch bowl.
[00:25:08]  Yep.
[00:25:08]  He's completed that transition.
[00:25:09]  And now it's so interesting to see him with David Icke.
[00:25:13]  Being like, now I also believe I'm also purveying blood-drinking vampiric elites narratives.
[00:25:22]  Alex spent the last 19 years drinking all the punch and then shitting in the bowl.
[00:25:26]  So I don't want to play a ton of clips of David Icke.
[00:25:29]  This interview is just standard David Icke garbage.
[00:25:31]  He's exactly the sort of person I hate to talk about because he's too boring to be like Mark Richards and he's simultaneously too disconnected from reality to deserve to be taken seriously.
[00:25:41]  Like, I just, I listen to this, and it's just, it might as well be white noise.
[00:25:46]  Yeah.
[00:25:46]  Just listening to him, just so bland, and like, ugh.
[00:25:50]  Anyway, I don't even, it's one of those things, I have a lot of curiosity, but my curiosity only extends so far.
[00:25:58]  I've always been fascinated as to how David Icke got so popular, because he doesn't have any legitimate charisma that I can see.
[00:26:06]  I've read some people discussing that.
[00:26:09]  And I think that one of the theories that I find the most compelling is he went on...
[00:26:15]  I mean, he was already really famous.
[00:26:17]  Right, right.
[00:26:17]  No, no, I understand that.
[00:26:18]  He was a soccer player until he got early rheumatoid arthritis.
[00:26:22]  And then he became a sports broadcaster.
[00:26:25]  He was a pretty big guy in England.
[00:26:29]  Right, but if John Madden started telling me about lizard people, I'd be like, okay, cool.
[00:26:33]  We're going to get out of here.
[00:26:34]  Right.
[00:26:34]  So what ended up happening is he went to Peru.
[00:26:37]  And got kind of involved with some kind of out there stuff.
[00:26:41]  He claims to have had a transformative experience that I am saying he got hit by lightning or whatever.
[00:26:46]  Something along the lines.
[00:26:47]  I've heard him talk about it before and it's like this, he felt like electrified and couldn't move and had a vision.
[00:26:53]  Sure.
[00:26:54]  You know, all this.
[00:26:55]  Sleep paralysis.
[00:26:55]  Right, so he has this transformative experience in Peru.
[00:26:58]  He comes back, he goes on the BBC, gets mocked in front of the entire nation talking about how he's the son of the Godhead or whatever.
[00:27:05]  And then he goes on speaking tours.
[00:27:07]  And this is how I've heard it described before, like how it transitioned into celebrity on its own right.
[00:27:14]  People would come to laugh at him.
[00:27:17]  He would go give speeches, and he was just incredibly persistent.
[00:27:22]  And people weren't going because they thought he had a good point.
[00:27:27]  Right.
[00:27:28]  People would go just to see the spectacle of somebody deliver a...
[00:27:32]  Unhinged, ridiculous.
[00:27:34]  Yeah.
[00:27:36]  And people would just laugh at this spectacle.
[00:27:39]  But then a couple people in the audience would be like, "This guy's got a..." Good point!
[00:27:42]  And then over the years, it just keeps growing into an organized group of people.
[00:27:47]  Yeah, and given enough time, you'll find enough people who the message resonates with, even if 80% of the, 80 plus percent of people are laughing at you.
[00:27:57]  Gotcha.
[00:27:57]  And so I think that, I mean, he started that, like, what was it?
[00:28:00]  I think it was 91 was when he went on to BBC.
[00:28:04]  And 99 is when he put out the book where, I believe that was the first time he started with the reptilian lizard, Shapeshift.
[00:28:11]  It runs a fairly similar course with someone like Alex.
[00:28:17]  Most people are laughing and enjoying the entertainment, but then there's the other people who are in the anti-Semitic murder cult.
[00:28:23]  It speaks to the danger of allowing stuff like that to go unexamined and be around for too long.
[00:28:31]  And it's not to say that you should shut down anybody who's saying crazy shit.
[00:28:35]  No!
[00:28:36]  That was one of the great joys of my life.
[00:28:38]  That's not the ideal outcome.
[00:28:44]  I just think, you know what?
[00:28:46]  It's one of the costs of doing business in a free society.
[00:28:49]  You end up with unintended celebrities like this.
[00:28:54]  To me, David, I don't know.
[00:28:57]  It pains me because I think a lot of people are interested in him, but I'm just not.
[00:29:00]  I do not find him interesting at all.
[00:29:03]  I just don't care.
[00:29:05]  Fair!
[00:29:06]  I wish he hadn't have gone to Peru.
[00:29:07]  I don't have it.
[00:29:08]  I've listened to him talk and I, too, do not have any interest.
[00:29:12]  He's just boring.
[00:29:14]  I don't even want to laugh at it because I'm already...
[00:29:17]  Maybe if I'd have met David Icke before too much...
[00:29:21]  Back in 91?
[00:29:22]  Maybe back in 91 before I've already got Mark Richards.
[00:29:26]  What does David Icke have against that?
[00:29:28]  He doesn't have Minerva.
[00:29:31]  Sure, but he doesn't have Minerva flying him around.
[00:29:34]  That's true.
[00:29:34]  So anyway, not too much to care about with David Icke.
[00:29:39]  And that's most of the third.
[00:29:41]  So we jump into the fourth.
[00:29:42]  And this show takes on a completely different character.

=== Real World Issue (15:24) ===

[00:29:46]  We had David Icke interview where Alex is trying to, I guess, clout chase.
[00:29:52]  Is that what the kids say?
[00:29:53]  Sure!
[00:29:53]  You got David Icke on.
[00:29:55]  We're going to try and get a lot of ads in.
[00:29:57]  Really try and make the most out of this.
[00:29:59]  And the fourth is very different.
[00:30:03]  Alex is in a real, like, they're going to put us into machines mood.
[00:30:08]  But more importantly, there's a real world issue.
[00:30:12]  It's Wednesday, December 4th, 2019.
[00:30:15]  I'm your host, Alex Jones.
[00:30:17]  And this is the transmission that the globalist, post-human exterminist, are working around the clock to shut down because we're putting out the reality of what's happening on this planet.
[00:30:29]  We're getting people all over the world to talk about and to look at who is actually in control and what their plan is.
[00:30:36]  We are living in a science fiction dystopic future.
[00:30:41]  The future is here.
[00:30:43]  The future is now.
[00:30:45]  The simulation is real.
[00:30:47]  And the globalists are trying to create an artificial simulation to suck us into it.
[00:30:53]  Now, I thought long and hard this morning.
[00:30:58]  Before I went live here about how I wanted to say this because it's very nuanced.
[00:31:05]  If I don't say it just right, it won't convey the thought I'm really trying to get out there that I think is important for all of us to have a discussion and a debate about.
[00:31:18]  And that's President Trump.
[00:31:20]  Uh-oh.
[00:31:21]  Okay.
[00:31:22]  It's time to debate Trump.
[00:31:23]  Now we're having a debate about it.
[00:31:25]  Right.
[00:31:25]  Maybe we should have done that four years ago.
[00:31:27]  No!
[00:31:27]  Dan!
[00:31:28]  Come on!
[00:31:30]  Hindsight is 20-20.
[00:31:31]  He had a debate back then.
[00:31:33]  It was just Roger being like, Trump's real cool.
[00:31:35]  Yeah.
[00:31:35]  And they're like, debate done.
[00:31:37]  Over.
[00:31:38]  Yeah.
[00:31:38]  So Alex says that we need to debate Trump.
[00:31:41]  And I was like, this is big.
[00:31:44]  Yeah.
[00:31:45]  He's already, days past, done a mocking Trump impression.
[00:31:51]  That's a big fucking thing.
[00:31:53]  And now he's pretending that he prepared for the show and gathered his thoughts about debating Trump.
[00:31:58]  Like, ooh, where is this going to go?
[00:32:00]  And it turns out, it is disappointment.
[00:32:04]  The spirit that got Trump into office is one that's upset with tyranny, upset with corruption, and wants to upend the status quo and wants to transfer power back to we the people and back to our elected constitutional government.
[00:32:19]  But there are large swaths of folks out there that say, oh, just trust Trump.
[00:32:25]  Everything's fine.
[00:32:26]  Everything's going to turn out just great.
[00:32:28]  Well, we know what's happening in the White House and for the information that's come out, but that is not the case and that Trump is putting on a nice confidence act, and that's good, but that he's fighting for his life, and so is America, and so is the liberty movement.
[00:32:50]  We're going to lose this golden opportunity to really shortcut around the new world order and not have to really go through the worst depths of it.
[00:32:59]  So I would sum that up, you know, if you want to put that in human language.
[00:33:03]  Like, we weren't wrong, but Trump is not doing a good job.
[00:33:07]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:33:07]  We were right to do this, but it didn't work out.
[00:33:10]  Trump is bad, but that's not his fault.
[00:33:13]  He's putting on a confidence act.
[00:33:15]  Which I think is great.
[00:33:16]  I wonder if he's just saying that he's pretending to be confident, or if it's a con man.
[00:33:21]  I think he's trying to think that he's saying the former, but I think he knows the latter.
[00:33:28]  It could be.
[00:33:28]  So his suggestion, Alex's suggestion, is that you need to put pressure on Trump, which is whatever.
[00:33:34]  He's been saying that forever.
[00:33:36]  But, more importantly...
[00:33:38]  Another theme develops, and that is that Alex seems all of a sudden to be much more explicitly mad at QAnon.
[00:33:46]  Okay.
[00:33:47]  He thinks it's bullshit.
[00:33:49]  So there's a psychological tendency to just circle the wagons and fully get behind the president.
[00:33:55]  Well, you don't do that by not putting pressure on the president.
[00:33:59]  We know that the globalists have fought to keep InfoWars off his desk, because when he gets the right information, as Roger Stone has said accurately, He'll make the right decision every time, but if he isn't given the right information, some bad things can happen.
[00:34:13]  And so, we need to be very, very active.
[00:34:17]  And anybody telling you, trust the plan, as we one go, we all go, just that kind of attitude, that's the stuff that defeat is made of.
[00:34:26]  The stuff of victory is what Infowars is made of, and our awesome, kick-ass audience of activists that are the tip of the spear.
[00:34:34]  So, big broadcast lined up today.
[00:34:36]  I'm going to tell you Trump's biggest failure and get into it with evidence when we come back.
[00:34:40]  Then look at the biggest positive things.
[00:34:42]  We'll talk about what we can do.
[00:34:43]  And then just so much more today.
[00:34:46]  So, that got me really excited because there was a presentation that Alex said he prepared.
[00:34:53]  Which always means, like, well, you have your thoughts.
[00:34:57]  As opposed to just extemporaneous, off-the-cuff riffing about nothing.
[00:35:01]  So if he's going to talk about the good and bad of Trump, we'll actually be able to hear his prepared thoughts.
[00:35:07]  This is the best you can do if you present this as, hey, I sat down and I thought long and hard so I could make my point.
[00:35:15]  We're about to launch into what is good about Trump?
[00:35:18]  I was going to say that his biggest failure was probably on flush number nine.
[00:35:23]  That was the one that...
[00:35:24]  Shockingly doesn't come up.
[00:35:26]  Oh, okay.
[00:35:26]  So in this first...
[00:35:28]  This is just a segmented...
[00:35:30]  From his list of the good things about Trump.
[00:35:33]  Gotcha.
[00:35:34]  They didn't cut anything out.
[00:35:35]  This is his list.
[00:35:36]  Trump's been great breaking the back of political correctness and not bowing.
[00:35:40]  So the first thing is just that he likes that Trump's an asshole and doesn't apologize for being an asshole.
[00:35:45]  Yeah, that makes sense.
[00:35:46]  That's not a meaningful accomplishment.
[00:35:47]  No.
[00:35:48]  But that's how he starts.
[00:35:50]  It tracks, yeah.
[00:35:50]  That's how he starts the list.
[00:35:51]  Here's the next one.
[00:35:52]  He's been great saying America's a good nation.
[00:35:55]  We should be proud of ourselves and we should believe in ourselves again and not be demoralized.
[00:35:59]  That is equally meaningless.
[00:36:01]  If your list of great things a president has done starts with he's unnecessarily rude, and then you follow that up with he says positive things about the country, that's an indication this dude hasn't done too much that you're into.
[00:36:11]  Yeah, that's pretty much, I mean, his idea is that Reagan's city on the hill speech is all you needed to do as president.
[00:36:19]  It's a soft, soft list to begin.
[00:36:22]  So now we get to the next point.
[00:36:24]  He got us out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership that Hillary Clinton helped write that transferred our power to a multinational secret tribunal beyond even the tyranny of the World Trade Organization.
[00:36:35]  Exiting the TPP is one of the only things that Alex can hang his hat on that Trump has done.
[00:36:41]  I don't necessarily agree with Alex about what the TPP is, but at least this is finally one thing that Trump did do that Alex can point to as proof that he's doing things.
[00:36:50]  It's just a little lackluster how, for the past three years, this is the main thing Alex can think of to justify his zealous support of Trump.
[00:36:58]  He didn't even include the fact that Trump pardoned war criminals?
[00:37:02]  That one wasn't...
[00:37:03]  That one might be best left on set.
[00:37:05]  Yeah, maybe.
[00:37:06]  But we get to more substance.
[00:37:09]  He reactivated our carbon industry that makes us a world leader in energy so that we can be self-sufficient and not under globalist control.
[00:37:19]  That one's kind of weird.
[00:37:20]  I don't know why you would say carbon industry.
[00:37:22]  I think he means coal industry.
[00:37:23]  I would assume he means coal industry.
[00:37:25]  Yeah.
[00:37:26]  Or he reactivated our climate change exacerbator machine, and there we go.
[00:37:32]  Yeah.
[00:37:32]  Also, I don't think that Trump has done quite as much as Alex thinks for the coal industry.
[00:37:37]  A recent article on CNBC looked at the state of Wyoming, where 40% of the country's coal is extracted.
[00:37:43]  The article cited a recent report from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics showing a 13% decline in coal mining employment in Wyoming in 2019.
[00:37:52]  And a Wyoming state geological survey reflected a 30% drop in production in the first six months of this year compared to production numbers from 2014.
[00:38:01]  According to the Financial Times, coal is responsible for approximately 24% of electricity generation in the United States compared to 48% back in 2008.
[00:38:10]  I think all Alex is saying is that Trump has signaled an opposition to environmental regulations related to carbon emissions.
[00:38:17]  I'm not sure why he's phrasing that as the carbon industry, but whatever.
[00:38:21]  It's not really an accomplishment as much as it is something that Trump has over-promised and is kind of delivered on, I guess.
[00:38:28]  Anyway, here's the next one.
[00:38:30]  He's pointed out that we deserve to have a border, and it's not a crime to have one.
[00:38:34]  Cool!
[00:38:35]  I don't think any president in our history has been opposed to borders.
[00:38:39]  I'm trying to think of one.
[00:38:41]  This is just meaningless signaling to xenophobia.
[00:38:44]  McKinley?
[00:38:44]  I don't know.
[00:38:45]  I think that that's, again, really soft.
[00:38:50]  At least three of these are meaningless.
[00:38:53]  So, get this.
[00:38:55]  Here's the last one.
[00:38:56]  He's gotten two Supreme Court justices appointed that are light years better than what Hillary Clinton would have done.
[00:39:03]  And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is hanging on by her fingernails.
[00:39:07]  And the list goes on and on.
[00:39:11]  So Alex should not be in favor of the Supreme Court picks that Trump's made.
[00:39:15]  Neither of them are really people who are in line with Alex's bizarre interpretations of the law, so he has to couch his praise for them as being light years better than who Hillary would have predicted.
[00:39:24]  This is kind of weak, seeing as the nomination of these justices may well be the most impactful thing that Trump has done in office since their lifetime appointments.
[00:39:32]  And Alex can't really even celebrate either of them being on the court in and of themselves.
[00:39:37]  He can only celebrate that they're better than the hypothetical people Hillary would have put in, which is kind of sad.
[00:39:43]  I mean, there's nothing really, like, that's the end of the list.
[00:39:47]  I didn't cut anything out.
[00:39:48]  Alex said he'd prepared his thoughts so he could make his point.
[00:39:50]  And even with the gift of preparation, this is the best he can do to argue that Trump is good.
[00:39:55]  It's not a deep list.
[00:39:56]  There aren't real accomplishments on here.
[00:39:58]  Certainly not the sort of list you'd use to rationalize why you've changed your entire life to support a politician.
[00:40:04]  It's sad.
[00:40:05]  Yeah, I do think there's a reason that the justice thing was the headliner on his accomplishments.
[00:40:11]  Well, it's probably the most compelling.
[00:40:13]  It's the only thing that...
[00:40:15]  And maybe it's the only thing that the GOP higher-ups really wanted.
[00:40:19]  Maybe.
[00:40:20]  Is a bulwark to, you know...
[00:40:23]  Maintain minority control until they die.
[00:40:25]  That's what's so fucked up.
[00:40:26]  I would understand that from them.
[00:40:28]  Yeah.
[00:40:28]  But from Alex, it does not make sense.
[00:40:30]  No, absolutely not.
[00:40:31]  They're not in line with his ideas.
[00:40:34]  Right.
[00:40:35]  They must have put some wires in his head.
[00:40:37]  That would be my assumption.
[00:40:38]  That would be my assumption.
[00:40:39]  Absolutely.
[00:40:40]  So that was the good stuff.
[00:40:43]  And now things turn bad.
[00:40:45]  Okay.
[00:40:45]  But when it comes to standing up for his supporters...
[00:40:51]  He's shitting the punch bowl.
[00:40:53]  And standing up for heroes like Julian Assange.
[00:40:59]  President Trump is missing in action.
[00:41:01]  So that's pretty big as an actual criticism because from all appearances, that does appear to be real.
[00:41:10]  Yeah, that one's strange.
[00:41:12]  And Alex is smart to couch this as putting a focus on Julian Assange as opposed to himself or Roger.
[00:41:17]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:41:18]  Lest it appear too self-serving and bitter.
[00:41:21]  This way he can take sort of the high road of, like, Trump isn't loyal to these people who support him.
[00:41:26]  I think that's probably really a wise way to depict this.
[00:41:30]  Yeah, and I don't particularly care about Julian Assange, but I would like him to pardon my buddy Roger Stone.
[00:41:36]  Yeah, so you got, like, these good things that Alex has said, and most of them are like, he's rude, he likes America, he thinks we should have a border.
[00:41:44]  They're all just, like, superfluous nonsense.
[00:41:46]  Yeah.
[00:41:47]  And then you get, like, a critique of, like...
[00:41:49]  He doesn't care about us.
[00:41:51]  It's like, yeah, probably.
[00:41:54]  But that's not it.
[00:41:55]  And when it comes to getting the Justice Department to indict the criminals or to let the indictments that we know have been handed down, that's confirmed.
[00:42:07]  There's not thousands, there's not hundreds of thousands, all that made-up internet dribble, but there are reportedly at least 20. So Alex wants Trump to lock up his political enemies.
[00:42:31]  Obviously.
[00:42:31]  And he's not doing that, which is a real stumbling block for...
[00:42:37]  Half of the people who voted for Trump probably just wanted him to put Hillary in jail.
[00:42:41]  And then they would have been like, okay, you can retire now or whatever.
[00:42:44]  I don't care.
[00:42:45]  I actually don't like you, but you did say you were going to lock her up.
[00:42:48]  Lock her up and then you can serve out the rest of your term, make all the money you want.
[00:42:53]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:42:53]  Be as corrupt as you need to be.
[00:42:55]  We'll vote you out in four years.
[00:42:56]  We all had a great time.
[00:42:58]  It was cathartic.
[00:42:59]  Yeah, it was cathartic.
[00:43:01]  I just...
[00:43:03]  You know, it's weird for me, because I still think a lot of this is trivial, but these critiques that he has of Trump come from a realer place than the praise that he has.
[00:43:16]  In terms of the substance, getting out of the TPP is really about the only thing that Alex can really, like I said, hang his hat on.
[00:43:24]  Whereas here, we have two criticisms.
[00:43:26]  One is, he's left me out to dry, along with Julian and Roger Stone.
[00:43:32]  And the next one is, hey, our worldview really depends on the idea that we're attacking these globalists and you're going to help with that.
[00:43:41]  You're not doing that.
[00:43:42]  Those are two fundamentally problematic things for the narratives and the worldview of Infowars.
[00:43:49]  These are robust criticisms.
[00:43:51]  It's a little bit like a delusional guy giving a pros and cons list for the woman that he wishes that he was dating.
[00:44:01]  Well, pro, we are going to get married someday and live happily ever after.
[00:44:06]  Con, she absolutely hates my guts and doesn't like me.
[00:44:09]  So there's, you know, I think I should stick with her for another couple years, but we'll see.
[00:44:15]  Yeah, it's hard to make that equation balance.
[00:44:18]  Yeah.
[00:44:19]  And I don't think he's going to be able to much longer.
[00:44:23]  Particularly after he starts talking about how Trump is also in bed with Silicon Valley.
[00:44:28]  Okay, that's not good.
[00:44:29]  When he came to Austin, he was hanging out with Tim Cook.
[00:44:32]  That's no good.
[00:44:33]  Tim Cook's in bed with China.
[00:44:34]  Yeah.
[00:44:35]  By the transitive property, Trump is in bed with the Chicom.
[00:44:38]  Exactly.
[00:44:39]  When America's being censored, America's being assaulted, we have AI going into place, blocking everything we do up front, and total election meddling, and Republican ads being banned everywhere.
[00:44:52]  For members of Congress, the president.

=== Trump Guilty of Treason (05:09) ===

[00:44:54]  And he just sits there with Ivanka and Jared Kushner going to dinner with all the big Silicon Valley people.
[00:45:02]  And Trump is letting them do all of this and is presiding over.
[00:45:09]  The Chinese Communist Social Score being brought in and China advising the UN on the standardization of the face scan and the cashless society, which we're adopting, and letting Apple be based in China and letting them give all the code keys to the Chinese government.
[00:45:22]  So Trump is presiding over the treason of the AI global takeover that will destroy America and every free society.
[00:45:32]  Trump is guilty of treason.
[00:45:35]  He just did what now?
[00:45:36]  So Trump is apparently guilty of treason.
[00:45:40]  That one is...
[00:45:41]  Okay, so he did get rid of political correctness.
[00:45:45]  Sure.
[00:45:46]  He is also guilty of treason.
[00:45:48]  It's hard to say that that is putting pressure on somebody.
[00:45:53]  It's hard to say that that's an accusation that you're making in order to...
[00:45:58]  Get him to let you back on Facebook or something.
[00:46:01]  I really like the Supreme Court justices he appointed.
[00:46:05]  That's really great.
[00:46:06]  But at the same time, I do think he's guilty of treason and thus should be hung until dead.
[00:46:11]  I do think he's presiding over the destruction of all free societies.
[00:46:14]  Yes.
[00:46:15]  But I like that he's rude.
[00:46:17]  He's kind of a dick, and I gotta be honest.
[00:46:19]  Love me some borders.
[00:46:21]  Yeah.
[00:46:22]  I mean, when you look at this, the balance of this is heavily skewing towards the negative.
[00:46:28]  You know, what's fun, though, is honestly, I do think that that is such a streak in these white nationalists, like, we need our borders kind of stuff.
[00:46:38]  I would rather the guy who I literally think will destroy the world than the woman who would let in three brown people.
[00:46:46]  I do think there's something to that for a lot of these guys.
[00:46:49]  There may be.
[00:46:50]  There may be.
[00:46:50]  You might be right.
[00:46:51]  Do you think, though, Jordan, when he was rushed out to break, do you think he came back from break and said, hey, look, I said Trump committed treason.
[00:47:00]  I didn't mean it.
[00:47:00]  It was just a hard break.
[00:47:02]  Do you think he said that?
[00:47:03]  Kinda, yeah.
[00:47:04]  He doesn't.
[00:47:05]  What?
[00:47:06]  I didn't say that President Trump was guilty of treason.
[00:47:10]  Yes, you did.
[00:47:11]  To be a shock jock.
[00:47:12]  Okay.
[00:47:13]  At the end of the last segment.
[00:47:16]  I said it because it's true.
[00:47:18]  But I'm going to say something right now.
[00:47:23]  I am guilty of treason.
[00:47:26]  You are guilty of treason.
[00:47:28]  Oh, no.
[00:47:29]  Against God.
[00:47:30]  Fuck you.
[00:47:32]  When we sit here and we accept evil and we accept corruption, and we don't fight against it, and we give in to it and we compromise with it, we become guilty of sin.
[00:47:46]  And we're taught by the system that sin is thinking of female form as beautiful or eating too much food.
[00:47:52]  And there's, sure, extensions of that that do become gluttony or lust or whatever the case may be.
[00:47:58]  But real sin is being a coward.
[00:48:00]  It's just being a coward.
[00:48:02]  It's just being a coward, Dan.
[00:48:03]  That's real sin.
[00:48:04]  That's the real sin?
[00:48:05]  Thou shalt not be a coward.
[00:48:07]  Man, I have been reading the Bible for a long time, Dan.
[00:48:10]  Yeah.
[00:48:11]  Pretty sure that one wasn't...
[00:48:13]  At the very least, it wasn't at the top of the list.
[00:48:15]  I bet some permutation of being brave is spoken of positively throughout having a moral character.
[00:48:24]  It's not tops of the list, though.
[00:48:26]  And it definitely didn't get rid of the rest of the list.
[00:48:29]  No.
[00:48:30]  But, that's all sin is.
[00:48:32]  And therefore, we're all guilty of treason because...
[00:48:36]  Man, Deuteronomy had so many sins in there, and I really don't think any of them were just straight-up cowardice.
[00:48:42]  So what I think about that, that's remarkable, because Alex is doubling down on his Trump is guilty of treason, while at the same time undercutting what it means to have committed treason.
[00:48:52]  He's taking it out of the political realm, and he's putting it now into the spiritual realm, where it's much more abstract.
[00:49:01]  It kind of sounds like...
[00:49:04]  Rather than doing the classic, like, I'm sorry, I'm kowtowing to this guy, his way of apology is jangling keys over here and don't look at what I just said.
[00:49:15]  You know?
[00:49:16]  Yeah, I think so.
[00:49:18]  I think it's a way of, like, I mean, if I'm being perfectly honest, I think it's a way of walking back what he just said without walking it back.
[00:49:26]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:49:27]  I think it's kind of, I mean, using his own terms, being a coward.
[00:49:33]  Not owning your position.
[00:49:35]  But whatever.
[00:49:37]  He committed treason.
[00:49:38]  And now let me explain to you why treason has no meaning whatsoever.
[00:49:41]  And I'm foolish.
[00:49:43]  My definition of it is completely distinct from what yours might be.

=== Aliens And Classified Soul Uploads (15:39) ===

[00:49:48]  So it turns out, Alex...
[00:49:50]  Oh boy.
[00:49:52]  We're about to jump into space.
[00:49:54]  It turns out...
[00:49:55]  Do you remember on the 3rd, Alex was talking about how Elon Musk wants to put those brain chips in.
[00:50:01]  Chips in your wires.
[00:50:02]  I got it.
[00:50:02]  Alex starts rambling a little bit about how there's a space race going on between Google and Facebook.
[00:50:08]  And I don't remember if I have the full breakdown in this clip, but basically what his idea is is there's these companies that are creating their own, like, artificial realities that are competing, and the end point of it will be, like, you have to choose which one you want to go with.
[00:50:24]  Okay.
[00:50:24]  And then jump in and live in their artificial simulation.
[00:50:28]  Okay.
[00:50:28]  And that's apparently now the endgame, which I don't remember being in his documentary, Endgame.
[00:50:34]  But anyway.
[00:50:35]  And so Trump comes in.
[00:50:37]  And if he was a real revolutionary, or if he understood what was going on, and I think he does, he would understand that there is a race, like a space race, or a race for the gold in 49 in California.
[00:50:52]  Or one of the wacky races.
[00:50:55]  Who can get their AI system in place first?
[00:50:59]  And who can get everybody the most addicted and get brain chips into the brain?
[00:51:04]  And every major tech company, the big six, say, we want to dominate your life, have every decision made by the computers, interface with your brain, giving you unlimited pleasure and delivering you the unlimited pleasure, the best, so you will choose our company and upload your consciousness to us.
[00:51:24]  That's the end game.
[00:51:25]  That is Satan saying, I took a third of the angels.
[00:51:28]  I want you with me.
[00:51:29]  I'll give you anything you want.
[00:51:31]  Just put these wires in your brain.
[00:51:34]  Sounds like a good deal, Dan.
[00:51:35]  Of course, it's going to be hell on earth.
[00:51:37]  Oh, shit.
[00:51:38]  Once you give up your physical body, you're going to die.
[00:51:43]  You're not going to be a machine.
[00:51:44]  That's going to be a facsimile to trick others because it'll be able to mimic you perfectly.
[00:51:48]  But your soul is going to be uploaded and you're not going to like where it's going.
[00:51:53]  So these damn aliens, folks, and let's just get down to what it is, okay, are setting all this up with collaborator humans.
[00:52:02]  He talks about this a lot.
[00:52:06]  I love that.
[00:52:08]  I love the way you put it.
[00:52:11]  He's not...
[00:52:12]  It's not like, oh my god, aliens are real or anything.
[00:52:15]  They're an inconvenience.
[00:52:17]  These damn aliens won't stop it with the traffic!
[00:52:21]  Right, it's like how you think about rodents.
[00:52:25]  Something like you have an opossum eating your garbage or something.
[00:52:29]  These damn bugs will not get out of my house!
[00:52:31]  Yeah, it is a nuisance, these aliens.
[00:52:36]  So if you don't understand entirely, here's what Alex believes.
[00:52:39]  There's going to be the enticement of uploading yourself into these simulations that are in artificial reality.
[00:52:47]  Now, what's going to happen is there's going to be a situation where your body will have to die in the process of the uploading, right?
[00:52:55]  So people will go ahead and do this.
[00:52:58]  People who are running these simulations have already created completely realistic facsimiles of you based on voice prints and all the spying that the globalists do.
[00:53:10]  So they'll be able to create perfect versions of you inside the artificial reality.
[00:53:14]  So they will kill your human body, your soul will be uploaded into the demonic realm or whatever.
[00:53:19]  That's unclear.
[00:53:20]  That is unclear.
[00:53:23]  This artificial version of you, which is not you.
[00:53:25]  It is not your soul.
[00:53:27]  Okay.
[00:53:27]  It is in the computer, and it will be used to trick other people to go along with, hey, it's really cool in here.
[00:53:32]  It's real great.
[00:53:33]  Y 'all should do it.
[00:53:34]  So then everyone will die in order to have themselves put into the artificial reality.
[00:53:39]  Okay.
[00:53:40]  And then apparently there's also stuff about, like, cyborgs.
[00:53:44]  Sure, sure.
[00:53:45]  It's complicated.
[00:53:46]  Okay, so the globalist's ultimate plan is to make us all NPCs in a role-playing game.
[00:53:53]  Yeah.
[00:53:53]  Yeah, I guess so.
[00:53:55]  Because NPCs don't really have any...
[00:53:57]  Animus or...
[00:53:58]  Yeah.
[00:53:58]  Or any agency.
[00:54:00]  Yeah.
[00:54:00]  They don't really do much unless you talk to them.
[00:54:02]  We're all going to be shopkeepers in Skyrim.
[00:54:05]  Yeah.
[00:54:06]  All right.
[00:54:07]  I guess that's...
[00:54:08]  I mean, it could be worse.
[00:54:10]  But you won't experience that.
[00:54:12]  Your soul will be in the demon realm or something.
[00:54:16]  Right.
[00:54:16]  Not entirely sure on that.
[00:54:17]  I've got to be honest.
[00:54:18]  He doesn't spell that one out all too clearly.
[00:54:21]  All right.
[00:54:21]  How this soul is uploaded somewhere else that you're not going to like being.
[00:54:25]  I don't know.
[00:54:27]  I just don't know.
[00:54:28]  This is squarely in that David I category of like, well, can't look into this.
[00:54:34]  Nothing to do here.
[00:54:37]  Elon Musk hasn't made any we're going to upload your soul into the demon realm comments at all?
[00:54:42]  Interesting you should ask.
[00:54:43]  He has not.
[00:54:44]  However, Alex does drop.
[00:54:47]  Some deeply classified information that involves Elon Musk.
[00:54:51]  Okay.
[00:54:52]  And he seems really excited to do it, but also kind of mad.
[00:54:56]  These tech heads have already got wires in their brains.
[00:54:59]  And I've got it from folks that literally guard them.
[00:55:03]  Here, let me give you some classified stuff.
[00:55:05]  Elon Musk, a few months ago, had his meeting with the vice president.
[00:55:09]  And they're pitching their secret moon base right now.
[00:55:12]  And they've already got their big 3D printers.
[00:55:14]  They've already boosted into orbit.
[00:55:16]  They've already been delivered, some of them, to the dark side of the moon.
[00:55:18]  Would you like to know the crater number?
[00:55:20]  It's about a half mile right over on the dark side.
[00:55:23]  And they're already setting up this facility with these big 3D printers for the Mars launch, if you even believe any of that.
[00:55:31]  I don't.
[00:55:34]  So, let's just really go further here.
[00:55:37]  So, we got Pence, I guess, and Elon Musk working in concert to put giant 3D printers on the moon to create a moon base, an unspecified crater on the dark side of the moon.
[00:55:50]  Right, right.
[00:55:51]  All I have to say to that is these damn aliens will not stop getting in the way of this dark side of the moon crater nonsense.
[00:55:57]  This is deeply classified information.
[00:55:59]  Is it?
[00:55:59]  Is it?
[00:56:00]  Deeply.
[00:56:00]  Okay.
[00:56:01]  So, Alex rants some more.
[00:56:03]  The Bible's true!
[00:56:06]  Is basically advanced AI.
[00:56:09]  Sure.
[00:56:10]  A really old rebel system, and he took a bunch of systems with him.
[00:56:16]  You're riffing.
[00:56:17]  You are riffing now.
[00:56:19]  Shut up.
[00:56:19]  And it's setting up a system that Revelation warns you about.
[00:56:23]  And so just interchange aliens for demons, and you got it.
[00:56:27]  These damn demons!
[00:56:28]  And that's it.
[00:56:29]  I don't know.
[00:56:30]  I don't know.
[00:56:31]  Just replace aliens with demons.
[00:56:32]  Switch them around.
[00:56:34]  You're good to go.
[00:56:34]  Replace demons with lizard people.
[00:56:36]  We're all on the same page now.
[00:56:38]  X means Y. Come on.
[00:56:40]  Yeah!
[00:56:41]  Nothing is real!
[00:56:43]  Oof.
[00:56:43]  I would prefer to be in a simulation as an NPC than live in the world that he makes sense of.
[00:56:48]  It's tough.
[00:56:49]  It's tough for this to be the positions of a very, you know, researched...
[00:56:56]  Really?
[00:56:57]  Like a news organization?
[00:56:59]  Man, he is just making that shit up as he goes along.
[00:57:01]  This is a news organization.
[00:57:03]  Straight up.
[00:57:03]  No, I mean, this is just sci-fi shit.
[00:57:05]  I have heard a guy riff out shit before poorly.
[00:57:08]  Many a time.
[00:57:09]  And that long, like...
[00:57:11]  Tons of us!
[00:57:13]  Satan bringing a bunch of systems.
[00:57:15]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:57:16]  Struggling for that word.
[00:57:18]  Yeah, fuck you.
[00:57:19]  You're riffing.
[00:57:19]  I would just say that it probably is just him pulling from, like, memories of B-movies.
[00:57:25]  Right.
[00:57:25]  And sci-fi shit.
[00:57:26]  Like, just coming up with whatever makes a compelling narrative.
[00:57:31]  Ancient Satan might be Event Horizon.
[00:57:33]  Also, I mean, like, there was that...
[00:57:35]  What was that?
[00:57:36]  Iron...
[00:57:36]  Something.
[00:57:37]  Iron Skies?
[00:57:38]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:57:38]  That movie with the Nazis on the moon.
[00:57:41]  I have not seen it.
[00:57:42]  Now that I know there are Nazis on the moon, I am going to continue not seeing it.
[00:57:46]  There's conspiracy theories of Nazis on the dark side of the moon that go back quite a ways.
[00:57:51]  I mean, there's a lot of things that he's sort of pulling from in order to build up this narrative.
[00:57:56]  But he's not going to back down.
[00:57:58]  From this, pretending that this moon base, like this classified information is real.
[00:58:04]  Can't back down from a moon base.
[00:58:05]  And then he starts shitting on QAnon.
[00:58:07]  Sure.
[00:58:07]  You know, I just really released super classified information about the moon base they're already building.
[00:58:14]  We'll see if I'm dead in a week.
[00:58:15]  I really don't care.
[00:58:19]  This isn't a bunch of BSQ crap, folks.
[00:58:28]  You're getting the real thing right here.
[00:58:32]  Sad.
[00:58:33]  Man.
[00:58:33]  Sad.
[00:58:34]  I don't know.
[00:58:35]  I don't know, man.
[00:58:36]  I just don't know.
[00:58:39]  I'm starting to see all of these people as one giant convention, and they all just have booths right next to each other, and they all kind of hate each other.
[00:58:48]  Yeah, and all of their signs say, don't listen to the guy next to me.
[00:58:51]  I'm the one who's got the real information.
[00:58:53]  Except when they sort of can use each other for...
[00:58:56]  Validation or added promotion or something.
[00:59:01]  Every now and then there's a Taco Bell and a Baskin Robbins in the same restaurant.
[00:59:05]  They come into each other's orbit as is convenient to an extent.
[00:59:10]  In the same way that Mike Cernovich had a little season at InfoWars and that ended.
[00:59:15]  You have these people, they drift into each other's spheres of influence.
[00:59:22]  It's like a Premier League and somebody gets relegated at the end of every year.
[00:59:26]  Yeah.
[00:59:27]  So Alex embarks on what I would describe as a derivative, standard, boring rant about the devil.
[00:59:34]  Okay.
[00:59:35]  And it goes on for quite a while and it's not notable.
[00:59:38]  Where does he stand on the devil?
[00:59:40]  Anti.
[00:59:40]  Okay.
[00:59:41]  Just wanted to be clear.
[00:59:42]  Strongly anti.
[00:59:43]  Okay, gotcha.
[00:59:44]  Very.
[00:59:47]  I haven't gotten any indications yet, so I just wanted to be...
[00:59:50]  I appreciate you asking for clarification on that, lest anyone be confused.
[00:59:54]  So he has this long, boring rant about the devil, and it's not notable in any way, except for how he ends it.
[01:00:00]  And we are overrun with these slugs and then fellow humans that sold out to the gremlin, the chief loser.
[01:00:09]  So if Trump doesn't fight the AI takeover and lets it go through, then Trump is an agent of Satan.
[01:00:19]  So now we're opening up even the suggestion that Trump is an agent of Satan as opposed to just he has committed treason.
[01:00:27]  So I think we're getting a pretty strong sense that Alex is really flirting with...
[01:00:35]  I think he thinks it's a threat, though.
[01:00:38]  Like, I think it's...
[01:00:39]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:00:40]  I get the sense that he feels...
[01:00:42]  Like, it feels in some ways, like, especially because he framed this as, like, we have to put pressure on Trump.
[01:00:47]  Yeah.
[01:00:48]  I feel like this is his way of putting pressure on him.
[01:00:50]  You know, like, I'm willing to say stuff like this.
[01:00:52]  Yeah.
[01:00:53]  You understand?
[01:00:53]  I'm gonna be gone.
[01:00:55]  And I don't think Trump gives a shit.
[01:00:56]  No, absolutely not.
[01:00:57]  And now, that's where things get really interesting, because we're recording this on Monday, the 9th.
[01:01:03]  And just this morning...
[01:01:04]  Owen Schroyer showed up at the impeachment hearing in the House and started yelling about a bunch of stuff and had to be escorted out.
[01:01:13]  So now I don't have, because it hasn't happened yet, when we're recording this, I don't know what Alex's response to this is going to be.
[01:01:20]  Probably giddy.
[01:01:20]  Giddiness.
[01:01:21]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:01:22]  But if you really look at it, what's very interesting is what they have done by doing this stunt is not endear themselves to Trump at all.
[01:01:30]  They have made it that much more likely that Trump will not do the things that they want to do.
[01:01:36]  They want him to enact all this social media stuff in order to get them access to Facebook and Twitter and YouTube again.
[01:01:44]  They want him to do all these things that would directly benefit them.
[01:01:49]  And by disrupting the impeachment inquiry, I think the optics are impossible for Trump to do anything that signals support for Infowars.
[01:01:59]  Because then it appears transactional to an extent.
[01:02:02]  We're going pretending to be a news organization, but doing completely activist nonsense, trying to scream down Jerry Nadler.
[01:02:12]  I mean, this is literally the fucking Boston bombing press conference.
[01:02:15]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:02:17]  But, you know, I mean, that was still like Governor Deval Patrick and official people doing that press conference.
[01:02:25]  This is the fucking house.
[01:02:26]  It's a little bit different, I will admit.
[01:02:29]  It seems like the scale is different, and Owen Shroyer had to fly in to do that.
[01:02:33]  He wasn't already there.
[01:02:34]  It's pretty...
[01:02:36]  It's an intense disruption.
[01:02:39]  I honestly don't think it's meaningful in any way other than to demonstrate InfoWars' desperate desire for attention, for...
[01:02:49]  You know, coverage.
[01:02:51]  Yeah.
[01:02:51]  Because that is, like, I mean...
[01:02:53]  That's the only thing that he wanted.
[01:02:54]  InfoWars was trending.
[01:02:55]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:02:55]  Because of that.
[01:02:56]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:02:57]  Which, great job, media.
[01:02:59]  You're killing it.
[01:03:00]  Sure.
[01:03:00]  Yeah.
[01:03:00]  That's good.
[01:03:01]  I mean, that's good for them, I guess.
[01:03:03]  They pull off a publicity stunt like this, and it feeds them whatever attention they need for a little bit.
[01:03:09]  Yeah.
[01:03:10]  But it can't possibly get them to where they need to be with Trump.
[01:03:14]  So while you have Alex going on this rant about Trump may be an agent of Satan, which really appears to be him being like, I'm leaving!
[01:03:22]  I'm leaving!
[01:03:23]  You can stop me!
[01:03:24]  I'm leaving!
[01:03:25]  They go and pull this publicity stunt, which makes it that much less likely that Trump is going to do the thing that they're asking him to do for them not to leave.
[01:03:33]  It's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
[01:03:35]  I mean, either that or it's just an admission that they realize he was never going to do it in the fucking first place.
[01:03:40]  Possibly.
[01:03:41]  And they're like, if anything's going to happen, we have to make it happen ourselves, and we can't rely on Trump, obviously, which we should have known from the jump.
[01:03:50]  Yeah.
[01:03:51]  It's really hard to tell the motives that exist outside of just sheer publicity hunting.
[01:03:55]  Like, it's kind of tough to tell where the, like...
[01:03:58]  What are you trying to do here?
[01:04:00]  I mean, number one is always going to be, I want to get InfoWars trending.
[01:04:04]  That's number one on the list, regardless of anything.
[01:04:07]  Yes, that's definitely true.
[01:04:09]  Then the question becomes, is there some other thing you think this will achieve?
[01:04:14]  And I just don't know.
[01:04:16]  I think it hurts them, probably.
[01:04:20]  With Trump, yeah.
[01:04:22]  I see that.
[01:04:23]  I don't pretend to understand how Trump thinks, but I would assume...
[01:04:27]  Nonsensically?
[01:04:28]  Sure.
[01:04:28]  I would assume that even he would be like, God damn it.
[01:04:34]  Showing up and yelling there is not good.
[01:04:38]  No.
[01:04:40]  Let's see.
[01:04:41]  Are there any positive...
[01:04:43]  I mean, other than, once again, turning the hearings into a circus, which I guess is the only thing that Trump would enjoy about that.
[01:04:51]  You know?
[01:04:52]  That's it.
[01:04:53]  But it's a short-lived circus.
[01:04:55]  I mean, he's removed and they can move along with their business.
[01:04:58]  It's not like it has an impact on the actual hearings.
[01:05:00]  Right.
[01:05:01]  I don't know.
[01:05:02]  It's interesting.
[01:05:02]  But I look at it more from that prism of, like, this is shooting yourself in the foot.
[01:05:08]  And I don't know if Alexander, like, really...
[01:05:11]  I might be wrong.

=== Trump's War Criminal Pardons (00:59) ===

[01:05:13]  I might be wrong.
[01:05:14]  I mean, Trump's fucking pardoning war criminals.
[01:05:17]  I don't know.
[01:05:19]  It seems like that would be a short leap to being like, you disrupted the impeachment hearing.
[01:05:25]  Roger Stone goes free.
[01:05:27]  Right.
[01:05:28]  Right.
[01:05:28]  Hey, depending on what you disrupt, you get a different prisoner pardon.
[01:05:32]  Yeah.
[01:05:33]  I gotcha.
[01:05:34]  In a sane world, that doesn't happen.
[01:05:35]  No.
[01:05:36]  I don't know where we are.
[01:05:37]  Exactly.
[01:05:37]  Yeah.
[01:05:38]  So, Alex gets into yelling about how there's no men anymore because men would fight the globalists.
[01:05:46]  Sure.
[01:05:46]  If there were men.
[01:05:48]  But there aren't.
[01:05:48]  There aren't.
[01:05:49]  Especially not Trump.
[01:05:50]  No.
[01:05:50]  Well, maybe.
[01:05:52]  Okay.
[01:05:52]  We have to see.
[01:05:53]  Okay.
[01:05:53]  Where the average man, I know, if they were aware of what was happening and ever felt the animated contest of engaging this and saying no to it.

=== Arrested Development (03:46) ===

[01:06:05]  Turn their discernment on, would never...
[01:06:08]  I hate that word.
[01:06:09]  ...want to just screw off and play games all day.
[01:06:13]  But men are arrested, on average, at about age 12. And women are arrested at about...
[01:06:21]  About age 10. What?
[01:06:28]  And...
[01:06:29]  Get the fuck out of here.
[01:06:33]  You just made that up.
[01:06:34]  It's because people have not been through persecution.
[01:06:38]  They've not been through adversity.
[01:06:40]  I thought it was fucking puberty.
[01:06:41]  Because all of that's been taken away.
[01:06:43]  That's why they banned, 20 years ago, dodgeball.
[01:06:45]  And now most schools are banned running during recess.
[01:06:48]  They're trying to get rid of exercise itself.
[01:06:51]  I mean, they just want you as weak as possible.
[01:06:54]  Oh, now they're banning, you know, old Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
[01:06:59]  Ranking in bad.
[01:07:00]  Start animation.
[01:07:01]  Because some of the other reindeer are mean to him.
[01:07:04]  He has a red nose.
[01:07:05]  It's a story of overcoming.
[01:07:07]  And he has a gift.
[01:07:09]  And the other ones are inherently jealous of it.
[01:07:13]  I will say, on the one hand, I'm glad that Alex can interpret the meaning of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
[01:07:21]  That's a good point.
[01:07:22]  At this point, with children's stories, I think his batting average is pretty bad.
[01:07:27]  So at least this one is...
[01:07:30]  Yeah, those other reindeers were jealous of him.
[01:07:33]  I'm trying to figure out who the bad guy is that he would probably...
[01:07:37]  The only guy I respect is Darth Vader in this whole situation.
[01:07:41]  In Rudolph?
[01:07:42]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:07:43]  Who's the Darth Vader of Rudolph?
[01:07:45]  I don't know.
[01:07:46]  One of the other reindeer?
[01:07:47]  I guess his dad?
[01:07:48]  Oh, man, he probably identifies so much with Rudolph, though.
[01:07:51]  Could be.
[01:07:52]  His dad was probably like, he'll never be anything, and he was like, shut up, dad!
[01:07:56]  So, also, Jordan, I should tell you, there's no one's banning Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
[01:07:59]  I disagree.
[01:08:01]  I have done it now.
[01:08:02]  Alex is just talking about a video that the Huffington Post put out last year around Christmas, which they even clarified was meant in jest.
[01:08:10]  It was more or less just a compilation of people joking on Twitter about how the story of Rudolph is problematic.
[01:08:16]  So, of course, this became the focus of a right-wing outrage in the 2018 War on Christmas.
[01:08:21]  God, everybody is stupid!
[01:08:23]  And now I guess we're doing it again.
[01:08:25]  Yeah.
[01:08:25]  No one banned Rudolph.
[01:08:27]  It was just a dumb Huffington Post article that people like Donald Trump Jr. overreacted to.
[01:08:31]  And that is an example Alex can come up with when he's talking about kids these days.
[01:08:36]  They don't have any adversity.
[01:08:37]  They don't have any persecution.
[01:08:39]  It's arresting their development.
[01:08:40]  The globalists are trying to get rid of SoulCycle now.
[01:08:43]  What's next?
[01:08:44]  Ridiculous.
[01:08:45]  What's next?
[01:08:46]  Ridiculous.
[01:08:47]  I was 15, 20 years ago.
[01:08:50]  When you first got arrested?
[01:08:51]  Which is three years too late.
[01:08:56]  It was a tough time.
[01:08:57]  It's a tough time for us.
[01:08:59]  Why?
[01:09:00]  All we could do was ribbon dance.
[01:09:03]  Why do all women get arrested at 10?
[01:09:07]  Is that like the Israeli draft kind of thing?
[01:09:10]  Oh, okay.
[01:09:10]  Arrested development.
[01:09:11]  I think he was just making up those numbers, too.
[01:09:13]  Gotcha.
[01:09:13]  I'm not entirely sure.
[01:09:14]  I'm going to go with that.
[01:09:15]  So each of these episodes, the third, the fourth, and the fifth, all have terrible guests on them.
[01:09:19]  Sure.
[01:09:19]  We had David Icke on the third.
[01:09:22]  Hero Ball.
[01:09:23]  And on the fourth, we've got...
[01:09:25]  Gavin McGinnis!
[01:09:26]  No!
[01:09:27]  Leader of the Proud Boys.

=== Gavin On China And Racism (03:40) ===

[01:09:29]  Even though he's not anymore, he still always will be.
[01:09:32]  Yeah, no kidding.
[01:09:33]  So, Gavin, a lot of this is about China.
[01:09:36]  A lot of the interview is about China.
[01:09:38]  I was wondering what the Proud Boys' thoughts on China were.
[01:09:41]  Well, again, he's not with the Proud Boys anymore.
[01:09:42]  Sure he's not.
[01:09:45]  I want to be clear about this, because what he's going to say is going to sound like...
[01:09:50]  Tremendously racist.
[01:09:51]  I don't know if it is as bad as it sounds.
[01:09:54]  It's only monumentally racist.
[01:09:57]  He does clarify that what he's talking about.
[01:09:58]  Chinese Americans, people who have moved to America, they are very compatible with the United States and the West, Western culture.
[01:10:10]  But China itself, the way China operates, is incompatible.
[01:10:16]  Okay.
[01:10:17]  So he's making a relative like the government is not the people kind of...
[01:10:23]  He's trying to make that argument.
[01:10:24]  Yes.
[01:10:25]  Okay.
[01:10:25]  In fairness to him.
[01:10:26]  Okay.
[01:10:27]  But here is just something dumb.
[01:10:31]  Like the way they see life over there is totally different than the way we see life.
[01:10:36]  They don't value it the same way we do.
[01:10:40]  I'm glad you make that point, you know?
[01:10:43]  Asian Americans, and I'm not doing some virtue-signaling, ass-kishing thing, they statistically are the biggest supporters of Trump in a non-white population.
[01:10:53]  So, Alex, you're saying that Asian Americans are the largest bloc that supports Trump outside of the white population?
[01:10:59]  I'm going to go with Hispanics.
[01:11:00]  I should tell you that in the 2016 election, Trump won approximately 27% of the Asian American vote, and that's in the most generous polls.
[01:11:08]  Some have suggested the number could be much lower than that.
[01:11:12]  The Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund did a more in-depth survey, and they found an 18% support for Trump, which puts him lower than previous Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and John McCain.
[01:11:23]  Their polling showed some pretty troubling indications of eroding support for the GOP in Asian American communities in 2016.
[01:11:32]  Like, they're finding that 20% of self-identified Republicans voted for the Democratic candidate.
[01:11:37]  Okay, that's probably not good for Republicans.
[01:11:40]  Or Trump.
[01:11:41]  No.
[01:11:42]  And that trend has not stopped.
[01:11:43]  Vox published an article in May 2019 with the headline, quote, Trump could be turning Asian Americans into reliable Democratic voters.
[01:11:52]  Part of this was based on a 49% Democratic voting rate in the Asian American community in the 2014 midterm, compared to a 77% of Asian American votes going to Democrats in 2018.
[01:12:05]  Oh, boy.
[01:12:05]  I'm not sure if what he's saying is true, that the Asian American community is Trump's largest block of support outside of white people, but he's presenting it as if it's true.
[01:12:15]  If he believes that's true, that is a sad brag, considering the overwhelming evidence Pretty solidly to the left.
[01:12:23]  And a lot of that is directly in response to Trump's rhetoric and actions, particularly surrounding immigrants.
[01:12:30]  Right, which is even more likely to create a severe backlash in order to try and maintain a minority white rule over, God, I hate these people.
[01:12:40]  So annoying.
[01:12:42]  A lot of this Gavin interview, it's not very long, and it's just kind of boring.
[01:12:48]  They don't throw any axes or some shit?
[01:12:51]  Don't they always get together and hit each other?
[01:12:53]  Slap fight a little bit?
[01:12:53]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

=== Offensive Flippant Moments (07:05) ===

[01:12:54]  Not really.
[01:12:55]  What it is is largely...
[01:12:57]  Gavin just saying flippantly offensive things.
[01:13:02]  And, like, what's the value in listening to that?
[01:13:04]  Who gives a shit?
[01:13:04]  Trying to be a...
[01:13:05]  Trying to be funny?
[01:13:07]  Provocateur.
[01:13:07]  Edgy funny?
[01:13:08]  Yeah, sure.
[01:13:09]  And then, like, citing things that Milo posted on Telegram and, like, oh, making constant references to Tommy Robinson.
[01:13:16]  Great.
[01:13:17]  And, you know, so it's like, okay, cool, cool, man.
[01:13:19]  Yeah.
[01:13:19]  It's just a meaningless interview.
[01:13:21]  But there is this funny point.
[01:13:23]  That he's complaining about people at, like, you know, he gets into arguments about abortion with them, right?
[01:13:30]  And, you know, they say that they're pro-death now.
[01:13:35]  They don't even say that they're, you'll see.
[01:13:39]  I think there's something else going on that Gavin may not realize.
[01:13:43]  You know, we say we're pro-life, we're anti-abortion.
[01:13:46]  They're pro-death.
[01:13:47]  Here in New York City, they're so radical that I've met many people who go, yeah.
[01:13:53]  Abortion is murder, and I'm for it.
[01:13:54]  I'm pro-murder.
[01:13:56]  And you sort of go, well, I don't know where to go with this argument here.
[01:14:00]  That's exactly the point.
[01:14:01]  Yeah, there you go.
[01:14:01]  Yeah, I was going to say.
[01:14:02]  Yes, of course.
[01:14:04]  They want to end the conversation.
[01:14:05]  That's people going, fine.
[01:14:07]  Shut up.
[01:14:08]  I leave.
[01:14:09]  No, no.
[01:14:09]  Yeah, that's saying, I don't want to have this conversation.
[01:14:12]  You suck.
[01:14:13]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:14:14]  I love death.
[01:14:14]  Oh, you guys are not even pro-choice anymore.
[01:14:18]  You're pro-death.
[01:14:20]  Sure.
[01:14:21]  I'm pro-death.
[01:14:22]  Leave me alone.
[01:14:23]  Go away.
[01:14:25]  It's the same thing with Alex talking about people at abortion rallies saying that they're fucking with you.
[01:14:34]  They don't want to engage with you.
[01:14:36]  You're an asshole.
[01:14:38]  So Gavin, he has his little interview and then he's gone.
[01:14:41]  And Alex gets back into plugging.
[01:14:43]  And man.
[01:14:45]  A lot of the time, he's just talking about how great his products are and how you need to shop with InfoWars to save InfoWars.
[01:14:52]  That kind of thing.
[01:14:53]  This plug ends on a little bit of a different note where he's saying if you spend money anywhere else, you're sporting something pretty bad.
[01:15:01]  Huge sales running right now.
[01:15:03]  Infowarsstore.com or 888-253-3139.
[01:15:06]  And listen, if you shop at Walmart or Dick's Sporting Goods or Target, they're funding anti-gun transgenderism.
[01:15:14]  Where they go in and trick five-year-olds to have their rights taken away and then prepared into a squeeze chute to have their penises and testicles chopped off by a satanic cult that runs the planet.
[01:15:24]  This is all mainstream news, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:15:27]  It's that insane.
[01:15:28]  It's a family show.
[01:15:30]  Okay.
[01:15:30]  So, yeah, if you chop Dick's sporting goods, your dick's going to get chopped off.
[01:15:35]  Got it.
[01:15:35]  Okay.
[01:15:36]  That's...
[01:15:38]  Boy, I do like that method of inspiring sales.
[01:15:45]  I don't really understand where else he has to go from a marketing perspective.
[01:15:49]  We've turned this from extreme panic to you need to support me by buying products.
[01:15:57]  We're going to be gone in a year if you don't buy our products.
[01:15:59]  If you buy from anyone else, they'll cut your kids' genitals off.
[01:16:03]  Yes.
[01:16:03]  I don't know what the escalation can possibly be if this doesn't work.
[01:16:08]  Yeah, I think you should have pulled it back one step and been like, freedom fries.
[01:16:13]  If you buy anywhere else, you're supporting the French or something like that.
[01:16:16]  And then later on, you can go to, your kids are going to have their genitals chopped off.
[01:16:22]  Nah, man, that didn't play back the last time we tried that.
[01:16:24]  Fair enough, fair enough.
[01:16:25]  That was roundly mocked.
[01:16:28]  So, he comes back, comes back for break after this ad pitch, and...
[01:16:32]  Pop quiz.
[01:16:34]  What does Alex believe in?
[01:16:35]  Pre- or post-trib rapture?
[01:16:38]  Oh, he's a post-trib rapture all the way!
[01:16:40]  You bet he is.
[01:16:41]  Hell yeah!
[01:16:41]  You know what it turns out?
[01:16:42]  He's pre-trib?
[01:16:43]  No.
[01:16:44]  Globalists created pre-trib rapture.
[01:16:47]  Everybody's going to be taking the chips around you, world government, Christians getting persecuted, but you're not going to get persecuted because you think a rapture's coming that is in the Bible.
[01:16:58]  Is it?
[01:16:59]  Armageddon.
[01:17:00]  Is it?
[01:17:01]  A five-year-old could read it and understand it.
[01:17:03]  Could he?
[01:17:04]  But the big lie of the pre-tribulation rapture is only 180 years old and was developed by the Illuminati.
[01:17:13]  Oh.
[01:17:14]  And boy, has it worked.
[01:17:15]  Kind of like the Q movement.
[01:17:17]  Oh, there's no need to do anything.
[01:17:18]  It's all handled by somebody else.
[01:17:20]  Man, he is really swinging on cue.
[01:17:23]  Like, he's been pretty subdued on that note.
[01:17:27]  He's made overtures towards being against it.
[01:17:30]  But, of course, also sort of cool with it back when he was trying to do his own version.
[01:17:35]  Yeah, jealous of it, for sure.
[01:17:37]  Certainly.
[01:17:38]  But now, this stretch, he really seems to be taking some shots.
[01:17:44]  He seems to hate them.
[01:17:45]  Yeah, I think this is like a whole...
[01:17:49]  He's having a rough time now that he's got to turn on Trump.
[01:17:52]  He's just like, fuck it!
[01:17:54]  I'm finally going to tell the truth!
[01:17:56]  If you're starting to turn on Trump, then it would...
[01:17:59]  Lend yourself to be anti-cute.
[01:18:02]  Absolutely.
[01:18:03]  It's one of the easiest mockable things that is staunchly pro-Trump.
[01:18:08]  Oh yeah, it's right there.
[01:18:09]  So, yeah, I mean, it almost could be seen as another layer of that.
[01:18:14]  And it's also a real dick thing for him to say that their whole idea is, no, no, no, everybody else has handled it while his whole idea is, pay me money and I will handle it for you.
[01:18:25]  Right, by yelling.
[01:18:26]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:18:27]  Which he does, a lot.
[01:18:28]  I believe it.
[01:18:29]  And he continues to yell about the rapture and how much he believes Revelation literally.
[01:18:36]  We are going to be living on literal hell on earth.
[01:18:39]  Billions are going to die.
[01:18:41]  It's going to be spectacular.
[01:18:43]  And there's going to be a great falling away from these big churches.
[01:18:46]  When the Antichrist is ruling and nobody's being raptured, and that's good because they're going to go to the real church that is inside of them in their relationship with God, and it's going to be a revival, the likes of which we've never seen, and God is going to send back.
[01:19:00]  That's why the universe works.
[01:19:01]  People read the Bible.
[01:19:02]  This is crazy.
[01:19:03]  We are uploaded to God and the people and then the prophets are going to come back and then they're going to get killed and then rise again right up in front of everybody in Jerusalem and the Antichrist and all of them won't be able to kill these.
[01:19:15]  people you imagine that point when they when that when they see their god satan broken and can't even kill two men you think about that you're going to see all of it you're going to see prophecy fulfilled you're going to see the devil in chains okay so I kind of honestly believe that if he was pre-trib raptured, he'd be pissed.
[01:19:43]  Probably.

=== Blindsided By News (15:18) ===

[01:19:44]  I think he would want to take a swing at God.
[01:19:47]  Yeah.
[01:19:48]  Well, I mean, the hardship is...
[01:19:50]  Half of the fun for him.
[01:19:52]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:19:53]  Like the concept of living through the tribulation.
[01:19:56]  Being so, oh, I'm so strong.
[01:19:58]  I survived the whole thing.
[01:19:59]  Even though billions died, I didn't.
[01:20:01]  That's like his amazing race or whatever.
[01:20:05]  His version of survival.
[01:20:06]  I gotta challenge myself at that.
[01:20:09]  Cool, man.
[01:20:10]  So Alex is a lot of this.
[01:20:14]  A lot of devil rant.
[01:20:16]  A lot of revelation talking.
[01:20:19]  But then he gets blindsided by some news.
[01:20:21]  The truth.
[01:20:22]  The fact that those two just stepped down, that could either mean they're putting worse globalists in, or that could mean Trump's moved against them, because he's got the power under those executive operations to remove those people.
[01:20:34]  I mean, let me tell you, stuff is not what it seems in the United States.
[01:20:38]  It's a giant scientific war machine, okay?
[01:20:40]  So I didn't realize that started where it did.
[01:20:44]  This is a story that Alex has come to his attention, thanks to someone putting it up on the screen, that two Google execs stepped down.
[01:20:53]  So on the third, news broke that Larry Page and Sergey Brin were stepping down from their executive roles at Google's parent company, excuse me, Alphabet.
[01:21:01]  I should remind you that Alex is reporting this as if it's breaking news in the third hour of his show on the 4th.
[01:21:07]  He can't possibly be doing any preparation for his shows or else he would have seen this news on the morning of the 4th before he started.
[01:21:13]  It's just inconceivable that his process is anything other than people show him headlines and then he riffs on them.
[01:21:19]  Yeah.
[01:21:20]  As for the actual story...
[01:21:21]  Page and Brin both retained their seats on the board of directors and maintained their voting control in the direction of Alphabet.
[01:21:28]  They just stepped down from their roles as CEO and president of Alphabet, respectively.
[01:21:32]  The reason for this was that they decided that having two presidents and two CEOs for Alphabet and Google was kind of redundant and that the management structure would work better if those redundancies were phased out.
[01:21:43]  As such, in the announcement of their stepping down, it was also announced that Google CEO Sundar Pichai was going to be taking over as the CEO of Alphabet, as well as staying on as the CEO of Google.
[01:21:53]  It's corporate restructuring.
[01:21:54]  Yeah.
[01:21:55]  So ultimately what you have here is an article that Alex didn't read, and he's just guessing things about.
[01:22:00]  He thinks they're going to either bring in worse globalists, or Trump is making his move, but in reality it's just a streamlining decision, and he would know that if he'd read the article.
[01:22:09]  Yeah.
[01:22:09]  I think the way Alex is reporting the story is partially an attempt to not fully turn on Trump just yet.
[01:22:15]  His entire gripe with Trump is how he won't take action.
[01:22:18]  against these tech companies, and you can see how eager Alex is to take this headline that he knows nothing about and turn it into a possibility.
[01:22:25]  This is the long-awaited answer to his prayers.
[01:22:28]  He's looking for excuses not to turn, but I think he's just going to keep coming up empty-handed.
[01:22:33]  I don't think it's going to work out.
[01:22:35]  Yeah, I mean...
[01:22:37]  Because everything that he thought Trump was going to do is imaginary, and he wasn't going to do it from the first place.
[01:22:42]  Right.
[01:22:43]  You just can't live on imaginary food for that long.
[01:22:47]  This isn't hook.
[01:22:48]  No.
[01:22:48]  Can't do that.
[01:22:50]  Slop.
[01:22:50]  No.
[01:22:50]  Brightly colored slop.
[01:22:52]  That's gross.
[01:22:53]  Yeah, that stuff was gross.
[01:22:54]  So Alex gets into a little bit of a bad headspace as this show winds down, and he starts screaming about how he's going to start a bunch of new shows, which he always does.
[01:23:04]  Yes.
[01:23:05]  Old man house phone coming back?
[01:23:07]  Here's what's great about this.
[01:23:09]  In the past, Alex has always talked about how he's going to go to 24 hours and he's going to give all of these people shows.
[01:23:14]  Absolutely.
[01:23:15]  There's a slight difference in how he's talking about it now.
[01:23:18]  See if you can pick out the difference.
[01:23:20]  It might be obvious.
[01:23:22]  You know what?
[01:23:24]  I'm supposed to get a haircut at 3.30.
[01:23:26]  But I can get back here and host the last couple hours of the War Room and Firepower.
[01:23:31]  I'll just do a whole other show.
[01:23:34]  By the way, I'm going to start.
[01:23:35]  I'm committed to the next 334 days.
[01:23:38]  I'm doing shows seven days a week, and I'm starting a new show very soon.
[01:23:43]  I'll let you know about it.
[01:23:45]  Actually, I'm starting two new shows a day.
[01:23:46]  So there's going to be two new shows a day for the next 334 days.
[01:23:50]  Two new shows a day that I'm going to be doing myself.
[01:23:52]  I need to step up.
[01:23:54]  That's not good.
[01:23:55]  He's going to be hosting three shows a day.
[01:23:57]  That's not good.
[01:23:58]  No.
[01:24:00]  I can barely fill the three hours that I'm on today, and now I'm going to go to at least nine total hours a day.
[01:24:09]  Do you want a couple more hours of me talking about the devil?
[01:24:11]  I don't.
[01:24:12]  Because it's coming.
[01:24:13]  I wish it wasn't.
[01:24:14]  So the main difference here is he doesn't have to pay anybody else.
[01:24:17]  Exactly.
[01:24:17]  I was going to hire people who just called in, and I assumed that they were good enough for a show, but man, it's just got to be me.
[01:24:26]  It's just got to be me.
[01:24:27]  I think what you see here is I think it's pretty well reflected in the times that I've gone to Band.Video, his YouTube clone or whatever.
[01:24:37]  You go and you look at anything that are the other hosts, like David Knight or Owen Shroyer, they are such diminished audience numbers.
[01:24:48]  Paul Joseph Watson also isn't as much as Alex, but that's because...
[01:24:52]  He's also elsewhere.
[01:24:54]  Yeah, there is no need to bottleneck there.
[01:24:57]  Whereas Alex's numbers are pretty decent.
[01:24:59]  And if I had to guess, I would say that his ability to drive sales is profoundly better than these other hosts.
[01:25:08]  So when he does this, even if he's not paying people, like the callers, the call-in host show or whatever, even if he's not paying them, he's still losing money.
[01:25:18]  Because he has to have the crew there.
[01:25:20]  Right.
[01:25:21]  He still has the bandwidth or whatever.
[01:25:23]  Right, right.
[01:25:23]  His overhead is so high.
[01:25:25]  Because a call-in hosted show is not going to move the product in the same way that Alex is.
[01:25:31]  Absolutely.
[01:25:31]  If you buy from Hobby Lobby, your kid's genitals cut off.
[01:25:35]  Yeah.
[01:25:36]  That one will do it.
[01:25:37]  Yeah.
[01:25:38]  Old Man House Phone definitely isn't just going to scream out that Walmart's going to chop your kid's dick off.
[01:25:42]  That's true.
[01:25:43]  If Alex thinks that in the next year, in order to make things right, make things like the ledger balance, I'm going to have to do three shows a day.
[01:25:52]  Yeah.
[01:25:54]  That's not good.
[01:25:55]  Three hours is too much for him to be doing of this a day.
[01:25:58]  Yeah.
[01:25:58]  Absolutely.
[01:25:59]  It's not good.
[01:26:02]  Adding more.
[01:26:03]  Oh, my God.
[01:26:04]  I honestly think that'll destroy me.
[01:26:06]  Yeah.
[01:26:07]  If I try and listen to his three shows a day.
[01:26:09]  You're not allowed.
[01:26:10]  At the same time.
[01:26:11]  I swear to God, I will take your computer away from you.
[01:26:14]  At the same time, the content that will be in hour eight will be unbelievably unhinged.
[01:26:18]  It will be ridiculous.
[01:26:20]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:26:21]  Also, he's not going to do this.
[01:26:22]  He'll have to be on speed at that point.
[01:26:26]  Yeah.
[01:26:26]  Oh, boy.
[01:26:27]  Brain force.
[01:26:28]  Sure.
[01:26:28]  So, in sort of a continuation of this, Alex goes to calls.
[01:26:33]  And this caller here suggests that Alex should turn Infowars into something positive.
[01:26:40]  Well, I mean, it's not to say...
[01:26:42]  Yeah, I understand where...
[01:26:44]  I understand, I think, where this is going to go, but...
[01:26:47]  It's not to say that Infowars isn't positive in this caller's mind.
[01:26:50]  Sure.
[01:26:50]  It's just that more there's an inspiration that it could be...
[01:26:54]  You have an opportunity to turn it into...
[01:26:56]  Alex gets pretty mad.
[01:26:58]  Yeah.
[01:26:59]  We need to turn Infowars into a crowdsourcing apparatus and start crowdsourcing the best engineers, the best architects, the best designers, and build a world that people, these millennials, want to live in.
[01:27:14]  We don't give them a direction.
[01:27:15]  They're all searching for us.
[01:27:16]  Well, sir, I've tried to build something, and I'm not the best at it, so I'm going to start just doing shows on other platforms as well.
[01:27:24]  I mean, I'm not, we're good at putting content out and covering things, and I've got a great crew.
[01:27:31]  Believe me.
[01:27:32]  I mean, it's unbelievable.
[01:27:33]  But what I'm trying to get at here with you is that...
[01:27:39]  Yes, we need to talk about the good world we could build versus what the globalists are going to build.
[01:27:43]  And I was saying that earlier.
[01:27:44]  But that all takes money and word of mouth.
[01:27:46]  That's why it's all on the audience here.
[01:27:49]  Infowars is maxed out.
[01:27:50]  I mean, we're at full capacity.
[01:27:51]  We can barely produce the shows we're doing.
[01:27:53]  I can't seem to hire people for some reason.
[01:27:55]  I can't seem to be able to expand for some reason.
[01:27:57]  I can't seem to be able to build websites for a reason.
[01:27:59]  I mean, we're just always under attack trying to fix what they've already shut down or taken away from us.
[01:28:04]  So I'm not complaining.
[01:28:05]  I'm not a victim.
[01:28:06]  I'm just saying that...
[01:28:08]  Yeah, there's a lot of great stuff we could do theoretically.
[01:28:12]  All I can do is just start doing more shows, more places.
[01:28:16]  I can do the shows.
[01:28:18]  I can cover the information.
[01:28:19]  I can take the calls.
[01:28:20]  Go ahead.
[01:28:20]  You're doing great, man.
[01:28:21]  I mean, I can't even do them here.
[01:28:23]  I don't even have crew to do more shows here on the weekend and stuff.
[01:28:25]  So I'm going to go work at other places now.
[01:28:28]  And it's nothing against the crew.
[01:28:29]  I'll just do whatever I can.
[01:28:31]  You got my commitment here.
[01:28:32]  Yeah, well, we love you, dude, but it's all about, you know, tip of the spear, tip of the spear.
[01:28:37]  Now we gotta move to the shaft of the spear.
[01:28:39]  What comes after the tip?
[01:28:42]  Phrasing.
[01:28:43]  Yeah.
[01:28:46]  So, Alex is pissed at the state of Infowars.
[01:28:51]  Yeah, he is.
[01:28:52]  He can't get crew to come in on the weekends.
[01:28:54]  He can't even do a Saturday and Sunday show.
[01:28:55]  He can't afford to hire people.
[01:28:58]  He can't afford webmasters.
[01:28:59]  He can't, like, and...
[01:29:01]  Sure.
[01:29:01]  I mean, I understand.
[01:29:02]  That's tough.
[01:29:04]  That is a tough situation to be in where you have an audience that's expecting you to do all this stuff to fight the globalists and you just can't.
[01:29:13]  And the only solution to that problem is the audience giving you more money.
[01:29:17]  Which they won't.
[01:29:19]  Unless you're the one doing it.
[01:29:20]  You've probably tapped out the extent of what the audience is going to give.
[01:29:26]  Yeah.
[01:29:27]  He's just stuck between a rock and a hard place.
[01:29:29]  And I have a theory.
[01:29:30]  About what his plan is.
[01:29:32]  Okay.
[01:29:32]  We'll get to that in a moment.
[01:29:34]  But that's pretty much the end of the fourth.
[01:29:36]  He gets just kind of mad about the impotent state of Infowars.
[01:29:40]  It's so annoying every time the answer to a question is so utterly and blindingly obvious, but the person saying it is like, for some reason, you know, like...
[01:29:51]  I can't hire people for some reason.
[01:29:53]  It's like, oh, no, no, no, not for some reason.
[01:29:55]  One, you're broke, and two, everyone thinks that this is a toxic nightmare factory.
[01:29:59]  Well, those are the two possibilities.
[01:30:01]  For some reason, it's still a mystery to us, but it's probably a combination of those two things.
[01:30:07]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:30:08]  If it's not one, it's the other, and usually it's both.
[01:30:10]  Yeah.
[01:30:11]  So Alex comes in on the fifth, and he's...
[01:30:15]  You know, basically just made peace with the fact that the House is probably going to vote to impeach and makes a prediction based on his, I guess, prediction?
[01:30:26]  So Pelosi says we will impeach.
[01:30:29]  Well, of course, you've had the votes as soon as they won the House.
[01:30:33]  In the midterms, that was assured.
[01:30:36]  Now people say, well, it's a joke.
[01:30:37]  It's a fiasco.
[01:30:38]  The Senate is going to not vote to remove the president.
[01:30:45]  And on the current course, that's accurate.
[01:30:49]  But, you see, they've got a bunch of curveballs.
[01:30:54]  They've got a bunch of new allegations and fraud that they're going to be bringing out, not just on the president, but on all of his bedrock supporters.
[01:31:03]  So you're going to see the disinfo stories everywhere, total lies, about the president, about myself, about others, to try to really defeat the American.
[01:31:13]  Resurgence that's been taking place.
[01:31:16]  So Alex is making this prediction that there would be negative stories about him coming out, you know, he's saying this as a prediction on this episode.
[01:31:23]  This episode is from December 5th.
[01:31:25]  This is not a prediction, really, since that morning, the New York Times story written by Alex's former employee, Josh Owens, had come out.
[01:31:33]  Alex seems to be kind of pretending he's not aware of that story, and he's just reading the tea leaves.
[01:31:38]  They're gonna spin it.
[01:31:39]  They're going to spin this.
[01:31:40]  The House is planning to impeach, and thus, you know, there's going to be negative stories about Alex because he's Trump's guy.
[01:31:46]  In reality, I don't believe that he's not aware of the story.
[01:31:49]  This seems like an intentional setup so he can make an after-the-fact prediction, which he can claim.
[01:31:56]  Whenever he brings up the story, he can be like, I told you they were going to put out negative stories about me.
[01:32:01]  I know everything.
[01:32:02]  I know the globalist plans.
[01:32:05]  That's how it feels to me.
[01:32:06]  But honestly...
[01:32:07]  I'm not positive how much he knows, because later in this episode he freaks out a little bit.
[01:32:15]  But I think he's aware that there is a story, but he hasn't read it, and I think that his staff hasn't told him what's in it.
[01:32:23]  I think that was smart of them.
[01:32:24]  I think that's the state he's in at the beginning of this episode, because his mental state does change pretty dramatically.
[01:32:31]  And I think that's when he finds out what's in the story.
[01:32:34]  Gotcha.
[01:32:36]  Alex is talking a little bit more about impeachment here.
[01:32:39]  And you know how the globalists are like 10 years behind?
[01:32:41]  They are usually a decade behind, yeah.
[01:32:43]  Yeah.
[01:32:43]  Well, it turns out the impeachment also behind.
[01:32:46]  Oh, shit.
[01:32:47]  Not 10 years.
[01:32:47]  Okay.
[01:32:48]  Just about 15 days.
[01:32:49]  Oh, okay, good.
[01:32:49]  They're not just going to hit Trump with this.
[01:32:52]  They're going to hit with everything this December, this January.
[01:32:55]  They're about a half month behind.
[01:32:57]  They wanted to have him.
[01:32:58]  Already articles out him impeached by Thanksgiving to rub it into the American holiday that they hate so much.
[01:33:03]  And they wanted to have the trial going on right around Christmas.
[01:33:08]  Make everybody turn away from their families, turn away from Christ, and give their attention to that.
[01:33:13]  So yeah, it's a war on Christmas.
[01:33:15]  The impeachment itself is a war on Christmas.
[01:33:17]  Wow.
[01:33:18]  I mean, you know, any construction project oftentimes falls into delays, and I think 15 days isn't that terrible.
[01:33:25]  I mean, Lord knows with my roof repairs that I had, certainly I would have liked 15 days.
[01:33:30]  Exactly!
[01:33:31]  I think that's something that, you know, it's not what you're shooting for, but it is still somewhat commendable.
[01:33:38]  So you got War on Christmas happening through vis-a-vis this impeachment, and that's just not an isolated incident.
[01:33:47]  These sorts of things happen a lot.
[01:33:50]  The attack on Christmas legislatively, the globalist does.
[01:33:54]  Sure.
[01:33:54]  And Alex talks about that here in a second.
[01:33:56]  Just like we got the income tax on Christmas and we got the Federal Reserve on Christmas, we got the law passed to take senators from the states where legislatures would elect the senators.
[01:34:06]  They were a creature of the state instead of them being popularly elected.
[01:34:11]  That all happened the night before Christmas.
[01:34:14]  Went all through the house.
[01:34:15]  Went all through the house.
[01:34:16]  Not a creature was stirring.
[01:34:17]  I knew that.
[01:34:18]  In the U.S. Senate in 1913.
[01:34:21]  And that's the way they like to do it.
[01:34:23]  So, we know that Alex thinks the Federal Reserve Act was passed by the votes of just three members of Congress.
[01:34:28]  Three dudes!
[01:34:29]  But we now learn that he also thinks it was passed on Christmas Eve, which is just demonstrably not true.
[01:34:34]  How?
[01:34:34]  Give me one way to prove that it's not true, Dan.
[01:34:38]  The bill itself was signed into law by Woodrow Wilson on December 23rd, 1913, which is not Christmas Eve.
[01:34:44]  It passed the House on September 18th, 1913, and the Senate on December 18th, 1913.

=== Months Passing, Few Votes (01:34) ===

[01:34:52]  The mythology of the bill is that it was snuck through without anyone having time to read it or discuss it, with the evil globalists pushing it through while everyone was too busy with Christmas to pay attention, but none of that's true.
[01:35:03]  It's just flimsy rationalization for why this thing passed.
[01:35:07]  In order for it to be this nefarious plan, there has to be a reason for why that isn't reflected by history.
[01:35:19]  And the way you get around that is with this, like, three people voted for it.
[01:35:22]  Ah, pushed through on Christmas.
[01:35:24]  No, it's just not true.
[01:35:26]  I mean, from September 18th to December 18th, there's months.
[01:35:31]  Between its passing, the House, and the Senate, when there was plenty of time to discuss the bill, come to a consensus on it.
[01:35:38]  This is just, I mean, it's just bullshit.
[01:35:40]  Well, I mean, if you can't actually argue rationally with the function and form of the Federal Reserve, which there are rational arguments against, but you can't make them.
[01:35:52]  So rather than do that, just call the entire creation of the thing suspect, and then you don't even really need to worry about the arguing.
[01:36:01]  Right.
[01:36:01]  You know, though, it's not the argument.
[01:36:03]  It's because the cover-up is the bigger issue.
[01:36:05]  Yeah.
[01:36:05]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:36:06]  Yeah, it's a shortcut.

=== Negative Vibe Toward Trump (07:14) ===

[01:36:08]  Yeah.
[01:36:09]  So, in this next clip, Alex, oh boy, I'll tell you what, a lot of this has been sounding pretty negative towards Trump.
[01:36:18]  Sure.
[01:36:18]  On the third and fourth, you have indications of a drift away.
[01:36:22]  And this next clip here from the fifth, I guess Alex is back on board or something.
[01:36:27]  I don't know.
[01:36:27]  He's very wishy-washy.
[01:36:29]  And it's very, very serious.
[01:36:30]  And we should pray for President Trump because I'm very critical of him not standing up for the free speech and for the big surveillance grids and all the rest of it.
[01:36:37]  But the fact that he stood up for pro-life and the fact that he's gone to pro-life rallies and the fact that he's done basic things like that is something other presidents have never done.
[01:36:47]  What?
[01:36:48]  And the fact that he did get us out of the TPP and he's been trying to pull the troops out.
[01:36:53]  He's definitely a real president and I believe he has the best interest of the country at heart.
[01:36:57]  It's just hard to see him as our big champion in the ring for us, our champion, our gladiator, going down a path that...
[01:37:07]  It's very, very dangerous.
[01:37:08]  Why didn't he think of the going to pro-life rallies, trying to pull out the troops when he had time to prepare his list of these good things about Trump?
[01:37:19]  This is so nonsensical.
[01:37:21]  It's like when you get made fun of and then a couple of days later you think of the perfect comeback.
[01:37:27]  That's the same thing.
[01:37:29]  He's trying to think of good things about Trump and since there's such a dearth of them.
[01:37:33]  I mean, it's just plate spinning.
[01:37:35]  He's trying to keep the Going away from Trump option available to him.
[01:37:40]  And the retaining there, too.
[01:37:44]  It's kind of...
[01:37:45]  It would be tough to understand where he stands if you're in the audience.
[01:37:51]  If you're listening to this show with any regularity, I don't know how you'd be able to...
[01:37:56]  If I were to ask you, what does Alex think about Trump?
[01:38:00]  I don't know if you'd be able to say concretely.
[01:38:03]  And I would almost guarantee that whatever I did say, he would deny.
[01:38:08]  Yeah.
[01:38:10]  So Alex, I think at this point now, has heard more about the New York Times article, but I don't know if he knows everything about it.
[01:38:20]  Because he's saying that there's a story, but he won't respond to it.
[01:38:24]  In the past, if folks got told don't listen to something...
[01:38:27]  They would go listen to it.
[01:38:28]  And that's still happening.
[01:38:30]  And that's really angered the system.
[01:38:31]  So they're coming out with new lies and new disinfo that I won't even respond to here on air to try to get us to spend our energy defending ourselves.
[01:38:40]  I'm not going to do that.
[01:38:41]  People know the truth.
[01:38:42]  They know what we stand for.
[01:38:43]  They have discernment.
[01:38:45]  I know you hate that word.
[01:38:46]  I hate that word.
[01:38:47]  But that's like...
[01:38:49]  Clearly more directed at a specific thing.
[01:38:52]  And that was the day that this New York Times article came out.
[01:38:55]  I know a lot of people probably are curious what my position on that is, on that article.
[01:39:01]  And I would say that I can sum it up pretty succinctly.
[01:39:06]  If Josh Owens has good intentions behind this, great.
[01:39:11]  A lot of the things that he brings up in that New York Times article, the fact that Alex drinks a lot.
[01:39:17]  The fact that they make stuff up.
[01:39:21]  Even the phone call that he talks about when he decided to leave, Alex said that I want to leave too.
[01:39:28]  Those things are things that you could deduce from watching Alex's show.
[01:39:33]  They're not groundbreaking in a real way.
[01:39:39]  They're observable facts.
[01:39:43]  So it's kind of surface level.
[01:39:45]  And then secondarily, The things that are like the most resonant images from the story are things like Alex killing that goldfish.
[01:39:54]  An employee had a goldfish and Alex killed it.
[01:39:57]  Things like that are not really stuff we can work with.
[01:40:03]  And I don't mean you and I. I mean, the world can't really work with it.
[01:40:06]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:40:08]  Oh, he's a bad guy?
[01:40:10]  The guy who denied that anybody died at Sandy Hook is also a bad guy on a personal level?
[01:40:15]  Right.
[01:40:15]  There's that aspect to it.
[01:40:16]  But then there's also the he said, he said kind of element to it.
[01:40:21]  Everything that's in that article is largely stuff that Alex can wiggle away from.
[01:40:28]  I read it, and I might be wrong.
[01:40:31]  I could be wrong about this.
[01:40:32]  Yeah.
[01:40:32]  But primarily there was stuff in there that was...
[01:40:38]  It's easily deflectable by Alex.
[01:40:40]  I would say what would make me feel way, way more confident about this is if in that article he also said, I'm testifying in the Sandy Hook lawsuit.
[01:40:55]  Something like that.
[01:40:57]  Some kind of an indication of where he could be singularly useful.
[01:41:04]  This is a person who clearly has made Clear indication that he doesn't care about whatever NDA he might have signed with Alex.
[01:41:12]  He's writing an article for the New York Times about his time there.
[01:41:16]  He clearly has inside working knowledge of how Infowars operates that extends to we make stories up.
[01:41:24]  So he is in a singular position where he could be very helpful in terms of bringing to light.
[01:41:34]  In a courtroom.
[01:41:35]  Yeah.
[01:41:35]  The way Alex's propaganda is used.
[01:41:37]  And it hurts people.
[01:41:39]  And I think that would be much more meaningful than a New York Times article.
[01:41:43]  And to be clear, I don't know that he's not doing that.
[01:41:48]  No, he could have been deposed.
[01:41:50]  He could have all of that stuff.
[01:41:51]  That's entirely possible.
[01:41:52]  I don't have an actual...
[01:41:53]  I just do not care what he has to say.
[01:41:57]  And he should go be a bricklayer for 20 years.
[01:42:00]  And then maybe I'll give a shit what he has to say.
[01:42:01]  But I don't care.
[01:42:03]  I think I care about what he says in as much as it's interesting and this is the world I...
[01:42:07]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:42:08]  No, no, no, absolutely.
[01:42:09]  I mean, on a, like, any kind of...
[01:42:13]  Beyond a surface-level interest, I have no interest.
[01:42:17]  Like, fuck your mea culpa.
[01:42:21]  This isn't redemption.
[01:42:22]  This article is stupid.
[01:42:24]  Don't care.
[01:42:25]  That kind of feel.
[01:42:26]  You can have that position.
[01:42:27]  I think I would be a little less terse about it.
[01:42:31]  I wouldn't say, fuck your mea culpa.
[01:42:33]  I would say I appreciate the perspective he's putting out.
[01:42:37]  I understand where he's coming from.
[01:42:40]  I just don't know if there's anything actionable in that article.
[01:42:47]  I don't know if there's anything that moves the needle past a lot of stuff that, yeah, you could...
[01:42:52]  You could definitely assume that.
[01:42:54]  He tells a story about them going shooting and Alex almost shooting him.
[01:42:58]  If he produced tape of that, then we'd be like, holy shit.
[01:43:04]  Or the phone call that he has with Alex.

=== iPhone Alerts Complaint (04:16) ===

[01:43:06]  If he had a recording of that, that would move the needle.
[01:43:09]  These would be different things.
[01:43:10]  But as it is, it's just kind of interesting.
[01:43:14]  But I don't understand why Alex would see that and be like, oh shit.
[01:43:18]  So anyway, Alex isn't super mad yet.
[01:43:21]  He's just decided, I'm not going to discuss this.
[01:43:26]  I won't dignify this with a response.
[01:43:29]  Because I still think he doesn't know what's in it.
[01:43:32]  And so he just goes on to complaining about iPhone alerts.
[01:43:36]  Sure.
[01:43:37]  He apparently has been getting a lot of alerts.
[01:43:41]  And he thinks that everyone is.
[01:43:43]  Okay.
[01:43:44]  And I don't think he's right.
[01:43:45]  Every iPhone user in America.
[01:43:48]  How many is that?
[01:43:48]  Probably 70, 80 million?
[01:43:50]  Look up the latest numbers on an estimated number of iPhone users in the United States.
[01:43:55]  And I talked to my wife.
[01:43:56]  She's got one.
[01:43:56]  She's getting the same thing.
[01:43:58]  Talked to one of my crew members.
[01:43:59]  He goes, yeah, I'm getting them.
[01:44:01]  Same three alerts I got this morning.
[01:44:03]  5 a.m., 8 a.m., 10 a.m.
[01:44:09]  One-sided what Pelosi's saying.
[01:44:11]  Oh, but Trump's buddies with Tim Cook.
[01:44:13]  I mean, what planet is Trump living on?
[01:44:18]  Mars?
[01:44:19]  So that's how they're going to steal the election, and they're doing it in every way.
[01:44:22]  So that's how they're going to steal the election.
[01:44:27]  They're going to steal the election with iPhone notifications.
[01:44:30]  110 million iPhone users.
[01:44:36]  110 million iPhone users.
[01:44:41]  Yeah.
[01:44:42]  Estimated about early next year, it's 108 million right now.
[01:44:46]  Okay.
[01:44:47]  Cool.
[01:44:48]  So 100 plus million people get hammered all day long with only what Pelosi's saying.
[01:44:54]  Sure.
[01:44:57]  Okay, you go to settings.
[01:44:58]  Yeah.
[01:44:59]  You go to notifications.
[01:45:00]  All right.
[01:45:01]  You can show what shows up on your lock screen.
[01:45:04]  Jordan, I have an iPhone in my hand.
[01:45:06]  Yes, you do.
[01:45:07]  I have had an iPhone for years now.
[01:45:09]  We did have a conversation on Saturday, though, where you did have issues with shutting off notifications.
[01:45:13]  But that's just for my emails.
[01:45:15]  Right now, I have a Grubhub email.
[01:45:18]  I haven't used Grubhub in for fucking ever.
[01:45:20]  I still get these emails.
[01:45:22]  But I think it's better for me that I have an alert for an email than not.
[01:45:27]  Gotcha.
[01:45:28]  But here's the thing.
[01:45:29]  I've never gotten an update from Nancy Pelosi.
[01:45:31]  You have not?
[01:45:32]  No.
[01:45:32]  Wait, she hasn't texted you?
[01:45:34]  No.
[01:45:34]  I get texts from her all the time.
[01:45:37]  I suspect that Alex and his wife and this employee may have signed up for something.
[01:45:43]  Or they have an app, like a news app of some sort that has these updates.
[01:45:48]  Breaking news.
[01:45:49]  Something like that.
[01:45:50]  He's complaining about something that is a choice for him to receive or not receive.
[01:45:56]  I don't understand what's going on here.
[01:45:58]  Like, I don't know.
[01:45:59]  You have an iPhone.
[01:46:00]  I have an iPhone.
[01:46:00]  We don't get these updates from Pelos.
[01:46:03]  Yeah, but that's because we're Soros funded.
[01:46:05]  She doesn't need to jam those updates down my throat, I guess.
[01:46:09]  That must be what's going on.
[01:46:10]  This is such like a Peggy Noonan or David Brooks column of like, I noticed one annoying thing, so this is why all millennials are going to die.
[01:46:20]  It seems cranky.
[01:46:21]  Yeah.
[01:46:21]  It's very much I'm an old man and I don't know how my phone works.
[01:46:24]  Yeah, he should get a house phone and be like his old friend.
[01:46:27]  Yeah, old man house phone, yeah.
[01:46:29]  So Alex now, I think, has figured out what's in this story.
[01:46:35]  And that's kind of...
[01:46:37]  I think his reaction to this is what makes me suspect that some of it is actually true.
[01:46:44]  Okay.
[01:46:45]  And maybe there's some evidence that some of it's true that just hasn't been produced.
[01:46:49]  Because he is pissed.
[01:46:51]  Ladies and gentlemen, we are back live broadcasting worldwide on this Thursday program.
[01:46:58]  I'm your host, Alex Jones.
[01:47:01]  And I was going to get into a big story about Vladimir Putin in this segment, but I've had some breaking news I'm going to have to deal with.

=== Fentanyl's Deadly Impact (03:50) ===

[01:47:07]  I'm going to have to go off air for a while now.
[01:47:09]  So he has to get off air.
[01:47:11]  Okay.
[01:47:12]  Now, is this for an interview, or is this so he can scream and punch a wall and maybe kill somebody's goldfish?
[01:47:18]  Probably scream.
[01:47:19]  There is no breaking news that he ends up getting to or anything.
[01:47:22]  I really think that the only thing that's relevant in his world is this New York Times article, and you've seen a progression of, I think he's aware of it from the beginning when he predicts that there's going to be negative stories about him.
[01:47:37]  I think he is kind of aware more when he's like, I will not dignify this with a comment.
[01:47:42]  And then he's read it, and he's like, God damn it!
[01:47:46]  I am going to go end the concept of exercise.
[01:47:50]  That's how angry I am right now.
[01:47:53]  Gotcha.
[01:47:53]  So he gets real pissed.
[01:47:55]  Ends up playing a special report.
[01:47:56]  And comes back and complains about how the Chinese are trying to kill all of us with fentanyl.
[01:48:01]  Sure.
[01:48:01]  People just bring it up to you everywhere.
[01:48:02]  You just, oh yeah, my cousin, my wife, my husband died of fentanyl last month.
[01:48:06]  You're like, oh really?
[01:48:08]  Death everywhere.
[01:48:09]  You don't hear anything about that.
[01:48:11]  I mean, it's killing millions of people.
[01:48:15]  Oh, I've heard this tone of voice before.
[01:48:17]  The idea that fentanyl is killing millions of people per year is absurd.
[01:48:22]  According to the CDC, there were approximately 69,000 total drug overdose deaths in the United States in 2018, which is actually a 2.9% decrease in 2017.
[01:48:32]  The World Health Organization put the number of global drug-related deaths in 2015 at approximately 450,000, and some estimates are even a bit lower than that, so it doesn't even make sense what Alex is saying if he's talking about globally.
[01:48:45]  It just doesn't work.
[01:48:47]  You're not including all of the people that the fentanyl mascot has strangled to death.
[01:48:51]  See, then we're back up into millions.
[01:48:55]  Alex's offensive character?
[01:48:57]  Yeah.
[01:48:57]  From the CDC's numbers, 2017 was the worst year in terms of drug morbidity in the recent past.
[01:49:03]  There were 47,600 opiate-related deaths, of which 59.8% were connected to synthetic opiates, of which fentanyl is one.
[01:49:13]  That brings us to about 28,500 deaths that were related to synthetic opiates in 2017.
[01:49:20]  A lot of that is fentanyl, but that category also includes things like methadone and tramadol, so it wouldn't be a safe assumption to say that that number is a precise gauge of how many fentanyl deaths there were in the United States.
[01:49:33]  And don't get me wrong, this is a serious problem that has gotten worse in the last five years or so, and it requires attention and action.
[01:49:40]  It just seems like talking about the issue in this kind of language trivializes the actual damage that's being done by synthetic opiates, which presumably is what Alex should be concerned about.
[01:49:50]  But that's where things get murky.
[01:49:52]  Alex isn't concerned about the overdose deaths that have increased so dramatically.
[01:49:56]  Or at least that's not his primary concern.
[01:49:59]  This narrative exists for him as a way to attack China.
[01:50:02]  The story is that China's bringing in this fentanyl as a way to attack the West.
[01:50:06]  So of course the people being hurt by this matter and it's a tragedy.
[01:50:10]  But it's also in Alex's best interest to exaggerate the problem.
[01:50:14]  The larger the death toll, the more reason there is to hate China.
[01:50:17]  So it can be inflated however he wants to suit his purposes.
[01:50:21]  And so that's what you see.
[01:50:22]  And in this next clip, he makes it impossible to confirm whatever statistics he presumably is relying on.
[01:50:29]  Yeah, they say it's hundreds of thousands of fentanyl a year, the hundreds of thousands of this type and that type.
[01:50:33]  But you add it all together and complications, it's in the millions.
[01:50:38]  And it's only not on purpose.
[01:50:42]  Complications from what?

=== Ezra Levant Joins Us (15:35) ===

[01:50:46]  It's all being done on purpose.
[01:50:48]  So yeah, it's all being done on purpose.
[01:50:52]  You nailed it.
[01:50:54]  Complications added all together.
[01:50:56]  All of these different things.
[01:50:58]  It just becomes almost impossible to track down what he's even presumably talking about.
[01:51:03]  And it's just, alright, whatever.
[01:51:05]  What is heart disease but the body's fentanyl?
[01:51:08]  Basically.
[01:51:09]  You can include that in there.
[01:51:11]  Right.
[01:51:12]  So now Alex has his bad guest of the day.
[01:51:15]  We've had David Icke, Gavin McGinnis.
[01:51:19]  Heavy hitters.
[01:51:20]  Luminaries in their fields.
[01:51:21]  And now someone new.
[01:51:23]  Ezra Levant joins us.
[01:51:24]  I am so wound up right now.
[01:51:26]  Ezra Levant is with RebelNews.com and still on Twitter for now at Ezra Levant on Twitter.
[01:51:34]  And I wanted to get him on about a host of issues, but I said, hey, send me other topics you want to get into.
[01:51:39]  Most guests will send you two or three things.
[01:51:41]  He sent me like 30 things.
[01:51:42]  They're all right on the same page I'm on because he gets it.
[01:51:46]  He's in the zeitgeist as well.
[01:51:47]  All of them are various ways in which he doesn't like Muslims.
[01:51:51]  It should come as no surprise that the founder of Rebel Media is on the show today.
[01:51:55]  After one of his big marquee employees, Gavin McGinnis, was on the day prior.
[01:52:01]  Taken in concert with Alex's rant about needing to go work somewhere else, I would not be surprised to find Alex Having a show on Rebel Media within the foreseeable future.
[01:52:13]  And what's going on here with him being on is really interesting, because I don't know if I've actually heard Levant come on Alex's show as a guest ever, but his influence has been a very strong one on Alex, whether or not Alex realizes it.
[01:52:26]  If you look at the list of the people that have worked for Rebel Media in the past years, you have a who's who of people Alex has promoted.
[01:52:33]  Faith Goldie, Lauren Southern, Katie Hopkins, Laura Loomer, and Tommy Robinson have all worked there.
[01:52:38]  Jack Posobiec was their DC bureau chief, filling in their Jerome Corsi shoes.
[01:52:44]  Gavin was a major player at Rebel.
[01:52:46]  He worked there for a while, left, and is back now.
[01:52:49]  If you look at that list, you see a whole lot of people who Alex has treated like experts in the past few years, to embarrassing results.
[01:52:55]  From Jack Posobiec's terrifying report of getting pizza at Comet Ping Pong, to Gavin's slap fights with Alex in studio, this is just a crew of folks who have done nothing but make Alex look like a total idiot.
[01:53:07]  But they've also been a radicalizing influence in his shift towards being so strongly anti-Muslim.
[01:53:12]  Most of these contributors at Rebel have an almost singular focus on Islam being the big problem in the world.
[01:53:19]  People like Katie Hopkins or Lawrence Southern or Tommy Robinson are people whose names you would not know if it weren't for their over-the-top Islamophobic stunts.
[01:53:29]  Interestingly, Ezra Levant has gone down some roads that Alex can only dream of going down.
[01:53:35]  In his career as a guy who writes dumb bullshit.
[01:53:38]  And by that I mean that when Ezra Levant was working for Sun Media in Canada back in 2010, he wrote an article about George Soros working with the Nazis in World War II and Soros threatened to sue him.
[01:53:49]  Ooh!
[01:53:51]  Yep.
[01:53:52]  Naturally, Levant and Sun Media immediately issued an apology which said, quote, the management of Sun Media wishes to state that there is no basis for the statements in the column and that they should not have been made.
[01:54:03]  This is exactly how things would play out if George Soros really cared what Alex said about him.
[01:54:08]  Alex would get a letter from a lawyer, and Alex would probably copy and paste that Sun Media apology, and that would be that.
[01:54:15]  Alex has got to be really jealous.
[01:54:17]  He doesn't even rate a letter.
[01:54:20]  That's disappointing.
[01:54:21]  That's really disappointing.
[01:54:23]  Leaving aside other times, Levant has had to make corrections or apologies in the face of defamation claims.
[01:54:29]  He's also had to apologize for some pretty blatant bigotry.
[01:54:33]  In 2012, Levant made some comments on a show he was hosting called The Source that, well, let's say we're not very kind towards the Roma.
[01:54:42]  He said, quote, These are gypsies, a culture synonymous with swindlers.
[01:54:46]  The phrase gypsy and cheater have been so interchangeable historically that the word has entered the English language as a verb.
[01:54:53]  He gypped me.
[01:54:54]  Gypsies aren't a race.
[01:54:56]  They aren't a religion.
[01:54:57]  They aren't a linguistic group.
[01:54:58]  They're a medieval prototype of the Occupy Wall Street movement.
[01:55:01]  A shiftless group of hobos that doesn't believe in property rights for themselves.
[01:55:05]  They're nomads.
[01:55:07]  Or for others, they rob people blind.
[01:55:09]  That is a swing!
[01:55:12]  Wow!
[01:55:13]  Damn!
[01:55:14]  I feel bad even reading that.
[01:55:15]  Jesus!
[01:55:17]  Was that in the roast of Donald Trump?
[01:55:19]  Christ!
[01:55:19]  What was that?
[01:55:20]  Naturally, people didn't like this too much.
[01:55:24]  So he was condemned roundly.
[01:55:26]  Six months later, he issued an apology, which seems a little flat, but at least he did get around to it eventually.
[01:55:32]  Man, it's like, you know, the only reasonable explanation for why a term like that would become part of our parlance is because it's true, Dan.
[01:55:41]  There's no possible way that some sort of bigotry could descend throughout our fucking history.
[01:55:47]  Yeah, he has a twisted view of linguistic evolution.
[01:55:52]  Jesus.
[01:55:53]  A couple years after this incident, he started Rebel Media.
[01:55:56]  And I think if you look at his hiring decisions, viewed in concert with his past behaviors, you could pretty much get the sense of what this guy's about.
[01:56:03]  He hired Faith Goldie, a woman who has made overt overtures to neo-Nazis.
[01:56:08]  He hired Gavin McGinnis, a guy who created a Western chauvinist street gang.
[01:56:12]  He hired Lauren Southern, a woman who teamed up with a white identitarian group to intercept migrant boats in the Mediterranean, and then went on tour with Stefan Molyneux.
[01:56:21]  He hired Katie Hopkins, a woman who has suggested we need a final solution to Muslims.
[01:56:26]  And of course, he hired Tommy Robinson.
[01:56:28]  Speaks for itself.
[01:56:30]  If you hire one of these people, I'm going to be super suspicious about your positions.
[01:56:34]  But when you hire all of them, it's not an accident.
[01:56:38]  These are the people you want to promote, and the message that sends is very clear.
[01:56:42]  Are you saying to me that this kind of, like, apology for his anti- and very bigoted rhetoric was maybe not something that he actually meant, Dan?
[01:56:55]  Are you saying that maybe some of his apologies have perhaps been performative?
[01:57:00]  And that...
[01:57:01]  I mean, maybe.
[01:57:02]  Yeah.
[01:57:03]  Could be.
[01:57:04]  Yeah.
[01:57:04]  Yeah.
[01:57:05]  Possible.
[01:57:06]  Well, that gives us a really interesting...
[01:57:08]  Alex wants to know, how'd you start Rebel Media?
[01:57:10]  How'd this get going?
[01:57:11]  Hate!
[01:57:13]  And this is just such a crock of shit.
[01:57:16]  You ask how the Rebel News started.
[01:57:18]  Well, we used to have a real TV station that was on real TV.
[01:57:22]  They called us Fox News.
[01:57:23]  Well, sure, I mean, I knew the story.
[01:57:24]  I wanted you to tell folks.
[01:57:25]  Just start now, but we'll talk about when we come back, because it's fascinating.
[01:57:28]  Sure.
[01:57:29]  Sure, I mean, I'll give you a minute now to tell me when we have to go to break, but...
[01:57:34]  We had 200 people.
[01:57:35]  We were on cable TV.
[01:57:36]  We were across the country.
[01:57:38]  But then our regulator, our version of the FCC, injected us, basically aborted us by having a regulatory ruling that made us unviable.
[01:57:50]  So overnight, this TV network of 200 people that was pumping out a freedom narrative, a counter-narrative to the media party, the government shut us down, not the viewers, not the audience.
[01:58:02]  So then we started Rebel News out of the ashes of that.
[01:58:06]  So before starting Rebel Media, Levant worked for Sun News Network, owned by Sun Media.
[01:58:11]  Shockingly, his comments about the Roma somehow didn't result in his termination, nor did his defamatory comments about Soros.
[01:58:17]  So that kind of gives you the sense of what kind of operation this was.
[01:58:21]  Sun News Network went dark in February 2015, and it was not the result of overzealous regulators.
[01:58:26]  It was a failing business.
[01:58:29]  In 2013, the Canadian Radio, Television, and Telecommunications Commission did deny Sun News their request to be included in the category of channels that are required to be included on basic cable packages.
[01:58:40]  So I guess Levant could pretend that this is why they failed.
[01:58:43]  But that's absurd.
[01:58:44]  The Commission's reasoning for their denial was that the channel was nowhere near meeting the criteria for being on the list of required channels.
[01:58:52]  For some perspective, the Canadian Broadcasting Company reported that data revealed that the Sun News was available prior to them being denied this request.
[01:59:02]  They were available to viewers in 5.1 million households and they were only pulling in an average of 8,000 viewers.
[01:59:10]  The station was not popular.
[01:59:13]  And they were basically throwing out a Hail Mary where they wanted the government to require their station to be on every cable package.
[01:59:20]  And then when they didn't get what they wanted, it became a case of government repression.
[01:59:24]  So they wanted the government to regulate them into the TV.
[01:59:27]  And then when the government did not, they complained about government regulation.
[01:59:33]  Yes.
[01:59:33]  I don't think these people have any good faith arguments these days.
[01:59:37]  Not really.
[01:59:38]  I just don't think they do.
[01:59:39]  Yeah.
[01:59:40]  In 2013, the Canadian Broadcasting Company was reporting that the station had lost $13 million in the previous year, so it shouldn't be any surprise that they collapsed.
[01:59:49]  Sun Media sold off most of its assets to a company called Post Media, but they weren't interested in buying the Sun News Network.
[01:59:56]  So in the end, there was no buyer, and Sun Media wasn't there to run the station, so it went under.
[02:00:01]  Almost immediately, Levant started The Rebel, and honestly, that's what he should have been doing to begin with.
[02:00:06]  The sort of rhetoric that he puts out, that's at home in a YouTube channel.
[02:00:10]  Trying to make it financially viable as a television station just isn't going to work.
[02:00:14]  The whole the government regulated us out of existence story is great, and it plays well on Infowars, but the reality is that the government rightly assessed that the station didn't meet the standards they have for required stations in basic cable packages.
[02:00:27]  And dealing with reality is not in the best interest of the egos involved telling these stories.
[02:00:32]  Yeah, I don't think that he would be at all willing to just be like, well, we only had 8,000 people watching, so it turns out in the marketplace of ideas, we fucking suck!
[02:00:44]  Right, and you could make the argument that they're like, well, more people would have watched us if they didn't have to pay for the cabled package that we were on.
[02:00:52]  Sure.
[02:00:53]  And I mean, I guess that is only making the argument that no one thought your product was worth paying for.
[02:00:58]  Yeah.
[02:00:58]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:00:59]  I don't know what to do for you here.
[02:01:01]  What we want is for our product to be free in order to compete with other people.
[02:01:06]  So here's how Alex rewrites that story.
[02:01:09]  Well, Ezra Levant hasn't joined the other side.
[02:01:11]  So Ezra, get into what happened to your network.
[02:01:13]  You launch it, tell people the name, the history.
[02:01:15]  I've looked into it years ago.
[02:01:16]  It became one of the top stations overnight.
[02:01:19]  So the government shut you down.
[02:01:21]  And it's not about being a victim.
[02:01:23]  It's about, this is Canada, folks.
[02:01:25]  It's a lot of horse shit.
[02:01:27]  They talk about freedom of speech and a lot about China sucking, and I don't really care.
[02:01:31]  I don't particularly care.
[02:01:33]  I do think, though, it's interesting because what you have here is Alex freaked out before this interview.
[02:01:42]  He was so mad, he was like, I have to go off air and play the special report.
[02:01:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:01:47]  He could have canceled this interview, and he didn't.
[02:01:50]  He still did this interview.
[02:01:52]  Right.
[02:01:53]  There's some reason that he still did it.
[02:01:56]  Because immediately after the interview, he plays another special report that is bizarrely spiritual.
[02:02:03]  And then also indicates again he has to get off air.
[02:02:07]  That's why they bombard us with artificial radiation, chemicals, biologicals.
[02:02:12]  To again, jam our perception so we don't make a larger connection with the universe.
[02:02:18]  It's self-energized and powered by all my creation.
[02:02:21]  This is a 90s TV guru thing.
[02:02:24]  This is bad.
[02:02:25]  Even complete with the music.
[02:02:26]  Yeah, with the music especially.
[02:02:27]  It's like, what are we fucking doing?
[02:02:30]  Free your mind and open it to the world.
[02:02:36]  Okay.
[02:02:44]  So...
[02:02:45]  Oh, no.
[02:02:46]  Too much news to be able to continue doing the show.
[02:02:48]  Sure.
[02:02:48]  That's a weird way to frame it.
[02:02:50]  Sure.
[02:02:52]  I am paralyzed by all the news.
[02:02:55]  I'm in the cereal aisle, and I don't know whether to choose Cap 'n Crunch or C.T. Crunch.
[02:02:59]  They're all crunchy.
[02:03:00]  I don't know.
[02:03:01]  I definitely relate to that in the cereal aisle.
[02:03:03]  Although, I would say...
[02:03:06]  This doesn't make sense.
[02:03:07]  No.
[02:03:08]  I have too much content to produce content.
[02:03:10]  Yes.
[02:03:10]  Absolutely.
[02:03:11]  Alright.
[02:03:12]  That's your issue, right?
[02:03:13]  That's why we only quit.
[02:03:15]  It is a hurdle.
[02:03:16]  Yeah.
[02:03:17]  You keep moving, I guess.
[02:03:20]  This mood just gets way worse.
[02:03:23]  And maybe I would be more interested in talking about the guy from Rebel being on the show if it weren't for...
[02:03:30]  It really seems like it's a blip.
[02:03:32]  It seems relevant to me only because I don't think he's ever been on the show before and Alex said the day before he's going to have to go start working other places.
[02:03:42]  It seems to me like that's the only option.
[02:03:45]  And Ezra's the founder.
[02:03:47]  And editor.
[02:03:49]  He's the head of it.
[02:03:50]  I think that it's only important because as his mood is so terrible he still had to do the interview.
[02:03:57]  I think that's interesting.
[02:03:59]  But far more interesting is how bad things get.
[02:04:02]  Wait, what hour are we in?
[02:04:04]  Third.
[02:04:04]  Okay.
[02:04:05]  Matt Bracken hosting the fourth hour.
[02:04:07]  Okay, so he still has to ride this out to the bitter end of his third hour.
[02:04:12]  Well, I mean, he does say a couple times that he should be off air.
[02:04:15]  Yeah, well, I agree.
[02:04:17]  I kind of agree, too.
[02:04:18]  Because this gets so fucked up.
[02:04:21]  And I thought a lot about this, and I just really can't lie to people.
[02:04:28]  I need to just tell you the truth and just lay out to the best of my knowledge what's going on.
[02:04:34]  And I think all of you have a really good idea of what's going on.
[02:04:36]  A lot of you are probably better than I do.
[02:04:39]  Because I did a lot of preparation last night and today.
[02:04:42]  I probably worked four hours last night on this show and I haven't covered anything I intended to.
[02:04:45]  We know.
[02:04:46]  And I did a lot of preparation early this morning.
[02:04:49]  Doubt it.
[02:04:49]  Then why do you do that?
[02:04:50]  And we've covered some important things.
[02:04:52]  But if we don't cover a subject...
[02:04:56]  In its fullness and its totality, where people understand the interconnectivity and then how to defeat it, and let people know that there's a better option and what they're missing out on, we're going to lose this thing.
[02:05:13]  And I just don't want to be the commentator on a baseball game.
[02:05:23]  I don't want to be a spectator.
[02:05:26]  So this is a strange headspace because you have Alex saying that I can't lie to people.
[02:05:32]  I need to tell you the truth.
[02:05:34]  Which implies that there's something he's been less than honest about to begin with.
[02:05:38]  And I don't know what that is.
[02:05:40]  Honestly, even knowing how the rest of this episode plays out, I'm not positive I know exactly what he's struggling with here.
[02:05:48]  Well, the globalists aren't real.
[02:05:51]  So...
[02:05:51]  That would be a big one for him to...
[02:05:53]  Tough end of this episode.
[02:05:56]  I think I'd be in a slightly different mood if that was episode.
[02:05:58]  That would be a cliffhanger to end all cliffhangers right there.
[02:06:01]  Or if there was even some sort of a massive reveal.

=== Escalation Towards Violence (05:15) ===

[02:06:04]  And I don't think there is.
[02:06:06]  I think that there's just an escalation towards like...
[02:06:09]  I think there's some violence here, man.
[02:06:13]  I think that Alex is almost giving a sign to his audience.
[02:06:18]  And...
[02:06:18]  I think he starts by justifying it by talking about the evil, violent things that the globalists are already doing to us.
[02:06:27]  And then, I will say that this is pretty heavy, but at the same time, pretty funny how this clip ends.
[02:06:34]  At an intellectual and political level, and a spiritual level, you come to the realization that They're doing violent things to us.
[02:06:48]  And they're doing it through institutional, ambient systems.
[02:06:53]  The way you would slowly poison a wild herd.
[02:07:03]  What's a large group of horses called?
[02:07:06]  Is it called a herd?
[02:07:08]  A big group of crows is called a gaggle.
[02:07:13]  No, it's not.
[02:07:16]  Bigger groups called them murder.
[02:07:18]  You know, it's cool the names.
[02:07:19]  Old English came up with, like...
[02:07:21]  What is happening?
[02:07:22]  What things would be named.
[02:07:24]  But, uh...
[02:07:26]  Well, what I was thinking about is...
[02:07:31]  What'd you call a...
[02:07:35]  A herd of horses?
[02:07:37]  A hair of horses?
[02:07:39]  Bags under the eyes, crow's feet, fine lines and wrinkles.
[02:07:43]  He...
[02:07:44]  Is so distracted, but I think that's because he's recognizing on some level he's going down a path where he's saying that the globalists, by doing all of the things that he says they're doing to us and has for years, are committing violent acts against us.
[02:08:01]  That is a justification for violence against them.
[02:08:05]  They're putting stuff in the water.
[02:08:07]  They're trying to kill all of us for decades.
[02:08:11]  His show has been a justification for murdering the globalists.
[02:08:16]  Yes.
[02:08:17]  And he realizes, I'm so angry right now.
[02:08:20]  I'm not sure exactly what about.
[02:08:22]  Could be the New York Times article.
[02:08:23]  I'm not positive.
[02:08:24]  For whatever reason, he's furious.
[02:08:27]  And he's recognizing that the path he's going down is going to lead towards...
[02:08:32]  A murder of crows, if you will.
[02:08:34]  And so he gets distracted by talking about groups of horses.
[02:08:37]  Yes.
[02:08:38]  Because I don't think he wants to...
[02:08:41]  If you pardon the expression, pull the trigger.
[02:08:44]  What, is it a brace of horses?
[02:08:46]  It's actually a herd.
[02:08:47]  Actually, there's a ton of words for collective groups of horses, depending on if they're wild or, you know.
[02:08:53]  I believe I've already come down on collective nouns pretty negatively.
[02:08:56]  They're fun.
[02:08:58]  Anyway, Alex comes back from break.
[02:09:01]  And again, this is not great stuff towards the end of this episode.
[02:09:05]  Sure.
[02:09:05]  But there's still moments of levity.
[02:09:07]  Ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
[02:09:10]  Broadcasting worldwide, I'm your host, Alex Jones.
[02:09:13]  And again, maybe some days I should just go off here because I don't want to start yelling and screaming and threatening people.
[02:09:25]  Yes, good.
[02:09:26]  Let me just get back to where we were.
[02:09:28]  No, you were screaming and yelling.
[02:09:32]  A group of wild horses is called a mob.
[02:09:34]  So, that is a...
[02:09:42]  I'm really glad that that was resolved.
[02:09:44]  I'm really glad that that was resolved.
[02:09:46]  That's a moment of levity mixed in with this real terrible stuff.
[02:09:51]  When he said, let me get back to where I was, I was like, oh no.
[02:09:55]  No, that's what I was thinking.
[02:09:56]  But I need to resolve what a group of horses is.
[02:09:59]  I gotta clear this up.
[02:10:01]  Look, you know, I've seen a lot of TV shows try to end, and they leave that one narrative strand unresolved, and I'm not going to do that on this show.
[02:10:11]  You are going to know what a fucking group of horses is, or I'm going to end it now.
[02:10:16]  So the globalists are doing all this violent stuff against people, and, you know, Alex has been waging his on-air campaign against them for a very long time, but it turns out it also has led him to be socially weird.
[02:10:29]  I get pissed.
[02:10:32]  Because I'm in this cage with you.
[02:10:35]  And I love my children.
[02:10:36]  And, you know, I care about your children, too.
[02:10:38]  I mean, my children go, Dad, please don't do it in a restaurant.
[02:10:41]  Don't do it at the shopping mall or the grocery store.
[02:10:43]  But they've just gotten used to it.
[02:10:44]  And I'll see a woman that's pregnant.
[02:10:45]  She'll be there with her husband.
[02:10:46]  I'll walk around and say, How are you doing?
[02:10:47]  Sometimes they go, Oh, Alex Jones.
[02:10:48]  But a lot of times they go, Hey, what's going on?
[02:10:49]  I go, Listen, I don't want to get in your business, but you need to read the vaccine inserts.
[02:10:53]  And usually the wife goes, Yeah, I've had my cousin telling me that, or my friend.
[02:10:57]  The husband will go, Wait, wait, wait.
[02:10:59]  Hey, what's going on?
[02:11:00]  I'm like, hey, people are supposed to talk to each other.
[02:11:02]  I'm not trying to be weird.
[02:11:03]  I'm not trying to be weird.

=== Strategic Horse Poisoning (11:51) ===

[02:11:05]  Uh, what?
[02:11:06]  I approach pregnant women at stores and tell them about vaccines.
[02:11:09]  I'm not trying to be weird here, but if I see a random pregnant woman, I immediately go up to her and tell her how to raise her child.
[02:11:17]  Yes.
[02:11:17]  Gotcha.
[02:11:18]  That's strange.
[02:11:19]  Not weird.
[02:11:20]  I don't want to be weird here.
[02:11:21]  But it's all in service of the...
[02:11:23]  The story that he's telling here is about the reason he was struggling to come up with the word for gang of horses is because he is trying to make the metaphor that if there's an unwanted horse population, they'll poison and get rid of them.
[02:11:41]  And the vaccines, the fluoride in the water, is the same thing the globalists are doing to us.
[02:11:48]  And so it leads to some sort of troubling things.
[02:11:53]  So, here's the bottom line.
[02:11:55]  They've set it up where if we're violent towards them and defend ourselves when they're physically attacking us through these weapons systems that they admit they're doing it to hurt us, that they're going to use that against our movement to expose the chemicals, the biologicals, and all the chemical lobotomies they give the kids through the vaccines and the rest of it.
[02:12:13]  And that'll hurt our movement.
[02:12:15]  Sure.
[02:12:17]  And in fact, they're going to stage stuff in our names very soon, and I already had before, But we should have a debate about the larger panopticon and the larger universe we're in with these people and the paradox of their assaulting us every day with lies and propaganda and chemicals and biologicals and radiologicals and admitting they're doing it.
[02:12:43]  And they think it's just going to go on forever.
[02:12:47]  And I know what a lot of people, I just randomly walk up and tell me and I run into military people and others and they go, you know, I ever get terminally ill or something, I got a list.
[02:12:57]  And by the way, this isn't some veiled threat to people.
[02:13:00]  I'm telling folks that you can feel the turning, you can see it in the street.
[02:13:04]  People are making a list of folks they're going to kill.
[02:13:07]  So, was that what that movie with...
[02:13:12]  No, that was, you know...
[02:13:15]  So, I don't know what the Panopticon debate is here, other than, is it time?
[02:13:21]  Yeah, it does seem like he is...
[02:13:24]  Inspiring people to go commit acts of violence.
[02:13:27]  And also at the same time saying that if somebody commits an act of violence, it's the globalists who are false flagging us.
[02:13:34]  But if it wasn't the globalists false flagging, I would still support you.
[02:13:38]  Because the globalists are attacking us with the water and vaccines all the time.
[02:13:43]  We should be doing this.
[02:13:44]  And it's disappointing to me that the globalists are doing it for us.
[02:13:49]  I have no idea.
[02:13:50]  I'm troubled.
[02:13:52]  Yeah.
[02:13:53]  By this.
[02:13:54]  It's also, the thing that I find the most troubling is he's clearly mad about something, and that's what's precipitating this.
[02:14:01]  This line of thought and this sort of like, hey, look, I'm not trying to threaten you, I'm just telling you a lot of people like me have kill lists.
[02:14:10]  Yeah.
[02:14:11]  A lot of cult leaders, one of their defining characteristics is when they get into a bad mood, others get hurt.
[02:14:19]  It's true.
[02:14:20]  Yeah.
[02:14:20]  So, the time is fast approaching, according to Alex.
[02:14:24]  Sure.
[02:14:25]  When these people will put this into action.
[02:14:28]  So, you're involved putting fluoride in the water?
[02:14:31]  You're involved trying to push all this crap into your bare pharmaceutical heads that knowingly put HIV and hepatitis in millions of people's factor 8 and bragged about it in documents?
[02:14:40]  You said, screw those hemophiliacs?
[02:14:42]  Well, what are you going to do when somebody walks up to you and says, screw you?
[02:14:48]  You're out in your carotid artery.
[02:14:50]  What are you going to do then?
[02:14:52]  Well, they stab you right in your heart.
[02:14:54]  Your aorta.
[02:14:55]  What are you going to do when they jam that right through your ribcage?
[02:14:58]  Oh, but see, you're a human.
[02:15:00]  Your life values.
[02:15:00]  We're all animals.
[02:15:01]  All the rest of us, you F over.
[02:15:03]  Huh?
[02:15:04]  People you inject with syphilis?
[02:15:06]  You think that's funny?
[02:15:07]  You think that's funny?
[02:15:09]  Well, they get their damn brains eaten for 30 years, and you sit back and laugh, you psycho!
[02:15:14]  I'm not threatening anybody.
[02:15:17]  I'm just telling you right now that you guys are asking for it.
[02:15:25]  That sounds like a threat.
[02:15:26]  And enough people know what you're doing now that if you don't back off real quick, the games are going to be over.
[02:15:37]  That's definitively a threat.
[02:15:39]  And that's that.
[02:15:40]  That's that.
[02:15:42]  It doesn't get more a threat than if you don't stop.
[02:15:46]  We will hurt you.
[02:15:47]  Yeah, you could make a pretty interesting argument that that's a threat.
[02:15:52]  I don't know.
[02:15:53]  I mean, there is no backing off.
[02:15:58]  The terms, what does he want?
[02:16:00]  No vaccines given to anybody?
[02:16:02]  What is backing off to him?
[02:16:05]  It's such a ridiculous concept.
[02:16:08]  It depends on his mood.
[02:16:09]  Right.
[02:16:11]  This ends badly.
[02:16:16]  I can't help but think it's in some way triggered by the New York Times article.
[02:16:21]  Yeah, it absolutely feels like he's just a child.
[02:16:25]  Yeah, he's having a fit.
[02:16:26]  This three-day stretch has been so childish of, like, depending on how he feels about anything is how he's going to lie about it.
[02:16:35]  And there are all of these people who are just...
[02:16:38]  Apparently captive listeners to the whims of a fucking rapidly deteriorating lunatic.
[02:16:45]  Yeah, it's not...
[02:16:47]  That's not good.
[02:16:48]  Yeah, it's not a good show.
[02:16:50]  No.
[02:16:51]  And like I said at the beginning, I listened until I was like, I've had enough of this.
[02:16:55]  Yeah, I think we're good.
[02:16:56]  December 5th was about where I had enough of this.
[02:16:58]  Because even at the same time, even as I'm listening to all this stuff where it's like, hey, you don't back off.
[02:17:04]  There are all these people out there who have lists of people that are ready to kill.
[02:17:08]  And, you know, something's going to happen if you don't fucking stop.
[02:17:14]  Even as he's expressing those things, he, of course, naturally ends up getting into a gross rant about drag queen story time.
[02:17:22]  But as you listen to this, you can tell this is still him trying to get money from people.
[02:17:30]  Major newspapers in Wichita, Kansas are defending not knowing their identities.
[02:17:34]  We just need to groom your kids.
[02:17:36]  They even tell you, we just need to groom your kids.
[02:17:39]  What's coming is men in clown outfits that look like psychotic demons out of a zombie movie.
[02:17:46]  Because the dam broke.
[02:17:50]  And hell is being released.
[02:17:52]  And it's all just ambient.
[02:17:54]  It's all in the background.
[02:17:55]  It's been waiting.
[02:17:56]  It's been preparing.
[02:17:57]  It's been gearing up.
[02:17:58]  Right.
[02:17:59]  We need to stay on the air, ladies and gentlemen, and we need capital to do it.
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[02:18:03]  Get great products.
[02:18:04]  It'll change your life here.
[02:18:05]  The biggest sales ever.
[02:18:06]  A lot of them have to end this week.
[02:18:07]  Infowarsstore.com.
[02:18:08]  Get your DNA force plus.
[02:18:11]  Whatever bad mood he's in, it's not so bad that he can't launch right into that voice.
[02:18:15]  Nope.
[02:18:16]  Nope.
[02:18:17]  So while I do think that there is some real crisis that he's feeling, in terms of from, you know, Maybe end of the first hour, he's in this mood where I've got to get off air, playing special reports, doing this interview that he has to do.
[02:18:36]  My theory, because he wants to work at Rebel Media, but I can't prove that.
[02:18:41]  I don't know, just the theory.
[02:18:42]  Or at least keeping his options available.
[02:18:45]  Whatever the reason he has to do this interview.
[02:18:47]  Stay on his good side.
[02:18:49]  Interview's over, he's freaking out even more, and it deteriorates to the point where he's sort of...
[02:18:56]  Fantasizing about these patriots with kill lists.
[02:18:59]  Yeah.
[02:19:00]  You know, there is something real to how he's struggling with it.
[02:19:05]  Right.
[02:19:06]  But it's not so bad that the primary function can't still be served, which is, gotta get that money.
[02:19:12]  Yeah, I mean, he's a fucking pro.
[02:19:15]  Like, I don't think that voice has been real for 20 years, if ever.
[02:19:21]  You know, that sales voice.
[02:19:23]  He's not a pro when it comes to collective nouns.
[02:19:26]  That's true.
[02:19:28]  This is just bad.
[02:19:31]  It's bad stuff.
[02:19:33]  So last week wasn't great on his show.
[02:19:37]  But it is what it is.
[02:19:40]  I just don't understand how you can have a show where...
[02:19:45]  You have such discreetly different days.
[02:19:48]  You know, like David Icke extravaganza one day, turning on Trump-ish.
[02:19:54]  You know, like, hey, there's these...
[02:19:56]  In a cowardly way, which as he's described it, is treason against God, yes.
[02:20:01]  Yeah, you have these sort of formulaic, meaningless good things about Trump, and then declarations that he's committed treason and maybe working for Satan.
[02:20:09]  Right.
[02:20:10]  And rambling about...
[02:20:11]  Like, how you know about a moon base.
[02:20:14]  Yeah, that one was trouble.
[02:20:15]  Just all the sort of esoteric nonsense about the devil on that day.
[02:20:22]  You come into the 5th and just have a breakdown about, probably about this New York Times article that leads to celebrations of the possible coming right-wing terror attacks.
[02:20:35]  Yeah, I suppose that may be his best strategy to get new listeners and viewers moving forward.
[02:20:41]  Be so unpredictable that you'll tune in just to see what lunacy happens.
[02:20:46]  Yeah, maybe.
[02:20:48]  I mean, once you've already said shopping anywhere else is an attack on your children's genitals, I guess the only other play is just like complete, unpredictable, disconnected, even from yesterday.
[02:21:03]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:21:04]  Kind of thing.
[02:21:05]  He should do his guests like The Tonight Show and have a week.
[02:21:10]  Where the animal wranglers come in.
[02:21:13]  Not just llamas.
[02:21:13]  Let's find out what else we can put in that studio.
[02:21:16]  Yeah, that would be interesting.
[02:21:17]  Although maybe you can't afford it.
[02:21:18]  Probably not.
[02:21:19]  Or the crew to help the llamas.
[02:21:22]  But like I said, the through line is money.
[02:21:24]  We need money.
[02:21:25]  It's money.
[02:21:26]  It's too tight.
[02:21:27]  Yeah.
[02:21:28]  It's bad times right now.
[02:21:29]  Yeah.
[02:21:29]  And so at least there's that.
[02:21:31]  I mean, if you're looking for a narrative arc at all, none of the substance works.
[02:21:36]  The narrative arc is, I will do or say...
[02:21:40]  Anything on any day to try and get more money.
[02:21:43]  It does feel that way.
[02:21:44]  Please.
[02:21:45]  I'll turn against Trump today.
[02:21:47]  Is that what will give me money?
[02:21:48]  I'll do it.
[02:21:49]  Give me money.
[02:21:50]  I will send Owen Schroer to interrupt an impeachment hearing.
[02:21:54]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:21:55]  If it gets me attention.
[02:21:56]  I will do fucking anything.
[02:21:58]  I said that Trump committed treason and that he might be working for the devil.
[02:22:04]  And four days later, my employee disrupts the impeachment, screaming about how Trump is innocent.
[02:22:10]  Yeah.
[02:22:11]  Great.
[02:22:12]  Yeah.
[02:22:13]  Great.
[02:22:13]  Great.
[02:22:14]  That means that there's some real solid footing here.
[02:22:18]  And I'm thrilled about it.
[02:22:19]  What I love about the alternative media is ideological consistency.
[02:22:24]  That's always been my favorite part of it.
[02:22:25]  Like how David Icke is a turd in the punch bowl.
[02:22:28]  Absolutely!
[02:22:28]  And then now I say all the things he said.
[02:22:30]  I mean, he's the greatest.
[02:22:32]  Or how three years ago David Icke was saying supporting Trump is embarrassing and then now here he is on his show.
[02:22:37]  Well, I mean, all publicity is good publicity, Dan.

=== Dueling Shits and Punch Bowls (01:04) ===

[02:22:42]  Even if it's with a guy who shit in the punch bowl.
[02:22:44]  Well, if they both did.
[02:22:46]  Yeah.
[02:22:46]  Oh, that's true.
[02:22:47]  They got dueling shits and dueling punch bows.
[02:22:49]  Anyway, we'll be back.
[02:22:50]  We will be back, Dan.
[02:22:52]  I don't know what to make of this episode.
[02:22:54]  Like, this time other than that.
[02:22:56]  Like, just convoluted nonsense with financial desperation tied in.
[02:23:02]  He needs money, and he needs to know what the collective nouns for all kinds of animals are.
[02:23:08]  I looked up a bunch, but I don't remember what they are.
[02:23:11]  Yeah, that's one of the things that I hate most about them.
[02:23:14]  We'll be back, but until then, we have a website.
[02:23:16]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[02:23:17]  We do, and we are on Twitter, Dan.
[02:23:19]  You bet we are.
[02:23:20]  It's at knowledge underscore fight, and at GoToBedJordan.
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[02:23:31]  Uh-huh.
[02:23:31]  Do it!
[02:23:32]  Yep.
[02:23:32]  We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I'm the juiciest ice cube.
[02:23:38]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[02:23:40]  Thanks for holding.
[02:23:42]  Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
[02:23:44]  I'm a huge fan.
[02:23:45]  I love your work.