Knowledge Fight - #368: November 11-12, 2019
Aired: 2019-11-13
Duration: 01:52:36


=== Lip Sync Competition Memories (02:24) ===

[00:00:59]  Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:01]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:02]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Indeed, we are, Dan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Dan?
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:09]  I have a quick question.
[00:01:10]  Okay.
[00:01:11]  Better be quick.
[00:01:12]  All right.
[00:01:12]  We've done, I don't know if you've ever done a show, but I've done a couple of drag shows.
[00:01:16]  Have you ever done a drag show?
[00:01:18]  Huh.
[00:01:19]  I don't know if I actually, like as a comedian.
[00:01:22]  Whichever.
[00:01:23]  Well, I guess, okay, in junior high, maybe, no, I was like in high school.
[00:01:29]  It was in a lip sync competition.
[00:01:31]  Okay.
[00:01:32]  And the class was all female except for me and one other guy, my drama class.
[00:01:38]  Yeah.
[00:01:38]  And so we had to enter this lip sync competition that was like the entire school district.
[00:01:43]  And the teacher had chosen the scene from the Westside story.
[00:01:48]  I like to be in America.
[00:01:50]  I'm looking for you in America.
[00:01:52]  No.
[00:01:52]  Where it's like the girls and the boys going back and forth.
[00:01:55]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:56]  But there was only girls and me and this other dude in the class.
[00:01:59]  And the other dude is like, I'm not going to be in the lip sync.
[00:02:02]  And so I was friends with the people in the class.
[00:02:04]  We were all like, hey, we all got along.
[00:02:06]  So I was in for the team.
[00:02:08]  And it's like, what is it going to be me and all the rest of the girls in the class?
[00:02:11]  I think would be a powerhouse choice if your teacher had made that.
[00:02:15]  Instead, I wore a dress and makeup and what have you in the lip sync.
[00:02:20]  And we were like all women in the library.
[00:02:23]  Oh, that's fun.
[00:02:24]  We ended up winning the lip sync competition, much to the chagrin of someone who lost, who would later become a friend of mine.
[00:02:31]  And we were sitting around smoking a joint a bit later in life discussing this very same speech tournament, not knowing that we were both in it.
[00:02:40]  No shit.
[00:02:41]  He was complaining about a guy wearing a dress ending up winning the cup.
[00:02:45]  That is not real.
[00:02:46]  Me.
[00:02:46]  That is not real.
[00:02:47]  Fuck you.
[00:02:48]  Totally real.
[00:02:49]  That cannot be real.
[00:02:50]  I guess that's the same thing.
[00:02:51]  That's the biggest, it's a small world moment that I can think of.
[00:02:54]  It was, I don't know, and I don't want to offend, be offensive at all.
[00:02:58]  Like, I don't know what the parameters of drag specifically are.
[00:03:01]  I don't know if that counts.
[00:03:03]  I have no idea.
[00:03:05]  I mean, it was a performance of some sort, but.
[00:03:07]  I think respecting whomever.

=== Policy Wonk Talk (03:10) ===

[00:03:10]  Sure.
[00:03:11]  I don't know, but that was a time when I won a lip sync competition singing I like to be in America.
[00:03:16]  Hell yeah.
[00:03:18]  So anyway, this is a podcast where I did that.
[00:03:20]  And also, I know a lot about Alex Jones.
[00:03:22]  And I didn't, and I don't.
[00:03:24]  So, Jordan, today on the show, we're going over the present day a little bit for a reason that will become very clear pretty quickly.
[00:03:32]  Maybe not quickly.
[00:03:33]  About halfway through the show, you'll understand why.
[00:03:35]  Gotcha.
[00:03:36]  But so we're going over November 11th, 2019, and then a little bit of the 12th.
[00:03:41]  But the 12th is mostly ignorable.
[00:03:44]  And again, once it becomes clear why I'm doing this, you'll understand why there's the 12th.
[00:03:48]  Right.
[00:03:48]  And also, it'll be clear why there's not that much of it, because it's kind of disappointing.
[00:03:52]  Gotcha.
[00:03:52]  But what's not disappointing is taking a little moment, Jordan, before we get going.
[00:03:57]  Thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
[00:04:00]  So, first of all, Ice Wallow Come.
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[00:04:06]  Okay.
[00:04:07]  Jackie, thank you so much.
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[00:04:12]  Next, Ryan, thank you so much.
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[00:04:16]  Hey, Ryan.
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[00:04:19]  Okay.
[00:04:20]  Could be either one.
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[00:04:26]  Ha ha, we're going.
[00:04:28]  We got you coming and going.
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[00:04:35]  Wait, what?
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[00:04:37]  You are now a policy wonk.
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[00:04:40]  Thanks, Jonathan.
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[00:04:44]  I'm a policy wonky, William.
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[00:05:05]  Centurion of Evil.
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[00:05:35]  Yeah.
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[00:05:39]  Yeah.
[00:05:40]  There's one thing you know about this.
[00:05:41]  It's a family show.
[00:05:41]  It's a family show.
[00:05:42]  So before we actually get fully down to business, I also have to say a very special shout out and a thank you.
[00:05:48]  A little bit of show business here.
[00:05:50]  Ooh.
[00:05:50]  To our dear friend, been around for such a long time, hanging out, loving the show, being cool.
[00:05:57]  Sonia from Sweden.
[00:05:59]  She got in touch with me and sent over some treats, Jordan.
[00:06:03]  What?
[00:06:04]  Yeah.
[00:06:04]  She reached out, sent over a package of some candies from Sweden.

=== Taste Test Teaser (04:30) ===

[00:06:08]  And so I feel like the first of all, thank you so much.
[00:06:12]  Yeah, absolutely, Sonia.
[00:06:14]  That's one way we can thank you.
[00:06:15]  But another way is to do a little bit of a taste test here on air.
[00:06:20]  Here, you want to open this package?
[00:06:21]  Sure, sure, sure.
[00:06:22]  And I want to read you what she wrote in her little, she sent a little note along.
[00:06:28]  And I want to give you the description of these treats that we're going to be trying here.
[00:06:34]  These are the jungle fry.
[00:06:36]  Apparently, I think that might be jungle roar in Swedish.
[00:06:39]  So anyway, she explained that by law in Sweden, you have to, if you're sending people candy, you have to send licorice stuff over.
[00:06:46]  Okay, by law?
[00:06:47]  Like this is an actual law?
[00:06:49]  Yeah, there's some the king has decreed, apparently.
[00:06:52]  And so she sent over some that are what she describes as the soy boy cook level of licorice.
[00:07:00]  And those are the salty cat ones, which are not these.
[00:07:04]  These are the jungle monkey laughing monkey situation.
[00:07:08]  All right.
[00:07:09]  These are the complete stud level of licorice.
[00:07:12]  Okay.
[00:07:12]  These are tasty to Sonia, but not everyone likes it.
[00:07:15]  Right.
[00:07:15]  So now we're going to find out, Jordan, if you and I like the complete stud level.
[00:07:20]  I will tell you right now, I don't even like the soyboy version of licorice.
[00:07:24]  I'm going to give this one.
[00:07:24]  We're going to find out.
[00:07:25]  This is very.
[00:07:31]  Oh, this is real.
[00:07:32]  This is real.
[00:07:33]  This is a man dying.
[00:07:34]  This is a man dying in my face.
[00:07:37]  Holy Christ.
[00:07:38]  Oh, my God.
[00:07:38]  Oh, is it?
[00:07:39]  That's so salty.
[00:07:40]  Oh, is it?
[00:07:41]  Oh, boy.
[00:07:41]  All right.
[00:07:42]  Here we go.
[00:07:42]  It looks a little bit like a pellet.
[00:07:44]  Like, this is what a koala shoves up to.
[00:07:47]  It's very startling.
[00:07:50]  Whoa!
[00:07:52]  I'm sweating.
[00:07:55]  It gets better.
[00:07:57]  Just 10 minutes of dead air and chewing.
[00:08:00]  That's what our show is.
[00:08:01]  Thanks, Sonia.
[00:08:02]  I will say that that is offensive.
[00:08:05]  That is the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth.
[00:08:08]  And I swallow cum, damn it.
[00:08:11]  That is offensive at the first bite, for sure.
[00:08:15]  Whatever that saltiness up front is, is unappreciated.
[00:08:19]  Uh-uh.
[00:08:20]  Wow.
[00:08:21]  If this is what Sweden's bringing to the table, I say, interesting, but no thank you.
[00:08:26]  I understand why you guys eat all that weird fish now.
[00:08:29]  It all makes sense.
[00:08:30]  All the weird fish stuff makes sense now.
[00:08:32]  Anyway, we appreciate it.
[00:08:34]  I'm sure some of the other stuff that was in the other candies that were in the package are much better than this complete stud level of licorice, but I felt like that might be the most interesting thing to try.
[00:08:44]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:08:45]  I will say, I've had a lot of licorice in my time.
[00:08:47]  Nothing has been even close to that kick.
[00:08:50]  I still don't think up front that salty, whatever the fuck was.
[00:08:53]  That was intense.
[00:08:54]  Holy shit.
[00:08:55]  Genuinely have no idea how to handle that.
[00:08:58]  I can't finish it.
[00:08:59]  It's just in my mouth.
[00:09:00]  I can't stop.
[00:09:01]  I can't chew anymore.
[00:09:03]  I can't spit it out.
[00:09:05]  I saw some of the packaging of these candies and was like, I'm going to plan a trip to Sweden now.
[00:09:09]  The trip's canceled.
[00:09:10]  Yeah.
[00:09:12]  After that piece of candy, I am out.
[00:09:18]  Oh, boy.
[00:09:18]  Anyway.
[00:09:19]  Oh, well.
[00:09:19]  Let's get down to business, Jordan.
[00:09:21]  Sure.
[00:09:21]  So Alex starts off the show here on November 11th, standing in front of his desk as if he's some sort of a real professional newsman.
[00:09:31]  Sure.
[00:09:32]  And he knows that this is weird, so he decides to explain why he's standing in front of his desk.
[00:09:37]  Probably been asking why lately I've been out front when we start the show many times instead of behind the desk.
[00:09:47]  Over the years, many times I've gotten up to go to the map wall or go to a video feed and point some things out like a weatherman would do.
[00:09:54]  But this would be a political weatherman.
[00:09:57]  Nice.
[00:09:57]  But with only 357 days left to this historic election, I'm doing it because I want to note visually to everyone that we're not in Kansas anymore.
[00:10:12]  That the world is really on the brink of total breakdown and disaster if good people don't exert our full political, cultural, economic, and spiritual will.

=== Weird Opening Explained (08:39) ===

[00:10:25]  Because if we fail at that, we're going to have to exert our physical will because we'll have no other choice.
[00:10:30]  Because what's coming at us is so damn evil.
[00:10:32]  There will be worldwide massive civil war and violence.
[00:10:36]  Until we got to the end there, I was sitting here like, why did I cut this clip?
[00:10:40]  This is so uninspired and boring.
[00:10:41]  And then I realized, if we lose the election, we're going to have to murder all of our political enemies.
[00:10:48]  That is a good clip to cut there.
[00:10:49]  I think that would.
[00:10:50]  Yeah, this is why I'm the political weatherman.
[00:10:52]  Yeah.
[00:10:53]  I know of other political weathermen that Alex hates.
[00:10:55]  Yeah.
[00:10:56]  Like Bill Ayers.
[00:10:58]  But yeah, so that is a bad note to start the show off on.
[00:11:02]  That's an intense opening.
[00:11:04]  Yeah.
[00:11:05]  So his main storyline throughout at least the beginning of this episode is about the revelations that Nikki Haley brought forth, particularly about how Rex Tillerson and who was it, McMaster?
[00:11:18]  Yeah.
[00:11:19]  We're trying to get her to help Kelly, maybe?
[00:11:21]  Yeah, I think Kelly.
[00:11:22]  Yeah, I think that's it.
[00:11:23]  Who gives a shit?
[00:11:24]  They were trying to stop Trump from causing trouble.
[00:11:28]  Yeah.
[00:11:28]  And Alex describes this as treason.
[00:11:31]  I'm going to lay out information here on the show today that is of the complete paramount importance.
[00:11:43]  Nikki Haley, the former governor who became the head UN ambassador from the U.S., had her issues, and I've had problems with her.
[00:11:54]  Sure.
[00:11:55]  But she at least understands that it's treason when you undermine the president and try to set him up.
[00:12:01]  And when he signs an executive order, you take it and throw it in a trash can.
[00:12:05]  Or when he says, bring me Infowars.com articles daily and you refuse to do it.
[00:12:12]  That is treason.
[00:12:15]  Quite frankly, not allowing him to have InfoWars articles is not treason.
[00:12:19]  I think disobedience turned into treason real quick, right?
[00:12:22]  Yeah.
[00:12:23]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:24]  It seems like there is an inability to disentangle those two things from Alex.
[00:12:29]  Yeah.
[00:12:30]  Not kowtowing to and doing exactly what Trump tells you to do is treason.
[00:12:35]  A man who's made his brand on defying authority and disobeying every possibility is, of course, the one who's going to tell you that if you're not going to be able to do it.
[00:12:43]  Conformity.
[00:12:44]  Yeah.
[00:12:45]  Getting like just replace Infowars articles with whatever.
[00:12:49]  Yeah.
[00:12:49]  Coffee.
[00:12:50]  Not getting him coffee.
[00:12:51]  Treason.
[00:12:52]  Treason.
[00:12:54]  Ridiculous.
[00:12:55]  So they were trying to keep Infowars articles away from Trump because they were on to the main stash early.
[00:13:04]  We even had sources who would be out at dinner, high-powered donors, billionaires with McMaster, and he would be drunk saying Trump's an idiot, Trump's a fool.
[00:13:12]  We hear in the establishment know how to run things.
[00:13:14]  He'll be out in just a few months.
[00:13:16]  They called the president up and couldn't even get him on the phone, so they called Roger Stone.
[00:13:22]  And they had Roger's phones tapped, and he got a bunch of death threats the next day, and so did I.
[00:13:30]  We got told: if you don't keep your mouth shut, you're dead.
[00:13:35]  And I had people I know call up that have worked high-level CIA, you name it, and threaten me, basically.
[00:13:41]  I told them, piss up a rope, and you better make sure I don't see you coming.
[00:13:47]  Because I'm an American, I'll piss on you.
[00:13:49]  How's that sound?
[00:13:49]  It's a family show.
[00:13:50]  I'll piss down that rope.
[00:13:52]  Yeah.
[00:13:52]  You piss up a rope.
[00:13:54]  I thought he was going to say, if you see me coming, I'm going to kick your ass.
[00:13:57]  Not I'm going to pee on you.
[00:13:58]  Yeah.
[00:13:59]  That's weird.
[00:14:00]  That's very strange.
[00:14:02]  He's gross.
[00:14:02]  This is a weird opening.
[00:14:04]  Yeah.
[00:14:04]  This is a weird opening.
[00:14:06]  How is it that we're on, we're going to kill everybody and start a new civil war and then backstage bullshit and now we're peeing on people?
[00:14:14]  I don't know.
[00:14:14]  But I don't believe most of that stuff happened for particular reasons that I think I'll be able to lay out as we go along.
[00:14:22]  Also, how is this supposed to work with that whole notion of like Trump sits up till three in the morning just sitting by the phone so people normal people can call him?
[00:14:30]  Couldn't get a hold of him.
[00:14:31]  Nope.
[00:14:32]  Too busy talking to some guy from Idaho.
[00:14:35]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:14:35]  He's on the phone, having a nice little chat, you know, having good times.
[00:14:39]  I don't know.
[00:14:40]  I think that this show is starting out weird because what Nikki Haley is bringing out does match up pretty closely with what Alex has yelled about for a long time.
[00:14:49]  Yeah.
[00:14:49]  And so it's a sort of miniature version of he doesn't know how to win.
[00:14:54]  He doesn't know how to take this and just let it be.
[00:14:58]  There's got to be more to it.
[00:15:00]  So Alex starts talking about plans to demoralize the country.
[00:15:05]  You know, you just see them everywhere.
[00:15:08]  You see them.
[00:15:09]  They're manifest all around us.
[00:15:12]  Let's see what they are.
[00:15:12]  Because when you are conquering a nation and selling it off and butchering it and dumbing it down and psychologically demoralizing it and poisoning it, that's all in the WikiLeaks.
[00:15:22]  You can turn the damn TV and see it, though.
[00:15:24]  You don't need to know it's in a secret document because you can see it.
[00:15:28]  Breaking up the family, everything.
[00:15:29]  We're being poisoned.
[00:15:30]  That's how you do it from within.
[00:15:32]  The rot from within.
[00:15:34]  There are the 49 secret plans of the communists to bring down the U.S. and all the famous senatorial reports.
[00:15:41]  But it wasn't the Russian communist.
[00:15:43]  It was the globalists already taking over Russia and were using the same poison on us.
[00:15:46]  We ought to read those lists here on air today.
[00:15:48]  In fact, we will.
[00:15:49]  I don't know what WikiLeaks stuff he's talking about because he's always so vague with that stuff.
[00:15:55]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:15:56]  And I know that he's talked about the demoralize and divide and all that stuff in relation to the Podesta and Clinton emails.
[00:16:04]  And so I decided, like, I have no idea what he's ever talking about.
[00:16:07]  He never is specific.
[00:16:09]  I'm going to look through those emails.
[00:16:10]  So you read the WikiLeaks?
[00:16:12]  I didn't read all of them because there's way too fucking.
[00:16:15]  There's a few.
[00:16:16]  So I searched around for articles about the most damning things that were in those email dumps because I'm not going to look through everything for the podcast.
[00:16:27]  There's just no way I have that time.
[00:16:29]  So it's a little bit voyeuristic of an exercise for me too, like to read these emails because I know that they're hacked and they weren't meant to be public, which makes the whole process feel like it's less like research and more like snooping.
[00:16:40]  None of that's to say that there isn't stuff that's worth being covered in those email dumps.
[00:16:44]  I just think that they've been covered pretty extensively at this point.
[00:16:47]  And I can't really find any material about demoralizing society being the cornerstone of some Democrat globalist plot.
[00:16:54]  Can't find any articles citing that.
[00:16:57]  Well, did you search for Cornerstone globalist plots?
[00:17:03]  I searched for a lot of words.
[00:17:04]  Okay.
[00:17:05]  The term demoralize only shows up in completely unrelated contexts in the Hillary emails and only in one email in the Podesta files.
[00:17:14]  That email from May 24th, 2015 was a campaign cable that served as a rundown of stories in the media about Hillary.
[00:17:21]  The word demoralize shows up in a copy and pasted chunk from an article on Real Clear Politics with the headline, quote, why less competition is hurtful to Hillary.
[00:17:31]  The article is basically positing that without a strong rival from within the Democratic Party, she won't have an opportunity to defend her record in the primary.
[00:17:38]  So questions about her controversies will still be on the table when she enters the general election.
[00:17:44]  This dynamic also means that all the media attention would be on Hillary prior to the general.
[00:17:50]  The article says, quote, while media attention is a positive for a candidate, being its almost sole focus on the Democratic side has not been easy.
[00:17:58]  And this could well serve to demoralize Democratic voters.
[00:18:02]  There are already signs of that in the national polls.
[00:18:04]  I'd like to say that this is what Alex has taken and misrepresented, but honestly, I have no idea.
[00:18:09]  Because it does say demoralize Democratic voters.
[00:18:12]  It's the only time it appears in the Podesta emails.
[00:18:16]  I don't know.
[00:18:17]  I have no idea.
[00:18:18]  He always just says it's in the WikiLeaks and never explains it any further.
[00:18:21]  So I don't, you know, if he doesn't care to be more specific, I'm just going to assume he's making shit up until I can find evidence to the contrary.
[00:18:29]  Yeah, I've always assumed the way he says that is just, he might as well just say, look it up.
[00:18:33]  It was on the, it was in the sky.
[00:18:35]  The plane flew and it wrote it in the sky.
[00:18:38]  Duh.
[00:18:38]  If you didn't see it, it was gone.
[00:18:40]  If he wants to be more specific, I'd be willing to look into it further.
[00:18:42]  But as it stands now, like, I don't know, what is he talking about?

=== Dumbing Down Debunked (11:57) ===

[00:18:45]  Maybe some sort of a other email dump, some other document dump from WikiLeaks?
[00:18:51]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:18:53]  One of the lesser known ones, you know, it was like it was a B-side WikiLeaks.
[00:18:56]  Sure.
[00:18:57]  He's real into the original WikiLeaks, you know?
[00:19:00]  So now, about those 49 plans of communism, the first thing I should tell you is that there's only 45, and I should tell you that it's bullshit.
[00:19:08]  On January 10th, 1963, Representative Hurlong of Florida took to the floor of the House.
[00:19:14]  He said that a constituent of his was an ardent enemy of communism and had requested that he read the 45 current goals of communism into the official congressional record.
[00:19:24]  Because a representative read these goals and it was recorded, now all these people think that it's something real, but it's not.
[00:19:30]  These 45 goals of communism were read directly out of The Naked Communist by W. Cleon Skousen.
[00:19:36]  The Naked Capitalist.
[00:19:37]  No, that's his other book.
[00:19:38]  He has.
[00:19:39]  Yeah.
[00:19:39]  Oh, God.
[00:19:40]  He's got a whole series?
[00:19:41]  It's just these two.
[00:19:42]  Okay.
[00:19:42]  The Naked Communist was about justifying McCarthyism.
[00:19:47]  It's a misrepresentation of a lot of that communist red scare shit.
[00:19:51]  Right, right.
[00:19:52]  And then The Naked Capitalist is about Carol Quigley and misrepresenting the Anglo-American establishment and tragedy and hope.
[00:20:01]  And he didn't even finish the trilogy?
[00:20:04]  I mean, I guess you could say the 5,000-year leap was maybe that.
[00:20:08]  You got to get the naked franchise going.
[00:20:10]  Naked leap.
[00:20:11]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:20:13]  So anyone who's listened to our show long enough knows that W. Cleon Skousen is a complete lunatic.
[00:20:18]  He was an anti-communist propagandist who was probably too extreme for the John Birch Society in the late 50s.
[00:20:24]  And his books, The Naked Capitalist and Naked Communist, are bedrocks of Alex Jones' stupid worldview.
[00:20:29]  These 45 goals of communism are part of a rich tradition of forgeries pretending to be revelations of the secret machinations of the communists.
[00:20:37]  That's dispensing, yeah.
[00:20:38]  They were, yeah.
[00:20:39]  I mean, to some extent, a lot of the stuff, that is part of this literary tradition, if you will.
[00:20:46]  There was a list of communist rules for revolution that popped up in the mid-50s, which was said to have been discovered by Allied soldiers back in 1919.
[00:20:55]  Of course, it was a complete hoax, but it served to give focus to the fears and paranoias that were popping up in the Cold War era.
[00:21:01]  The communist enemy was so mysterious to people that it became insanely easy to demonize your enemies by releasing fake documents that purport to show that what they stand for is secretly in line with the secret plans of the commies.
[00:21:13]  So they're basically commies and therefore the enemy.
[00:21:16]  That's all Skousen's list is.
[00:21:18]  It's a completely fake pile of shit he wrote to push his politics by calling the things he disagreed with communist.
[00:21:24]  Yeah, number 13 being party hard was a little bit obvious.
[00:21:28]  You hated Andrew W.K.
[00:21:29]  We should have seen that one.
[00:21:30]  So this is a huge problem because Alex clearly thinks this is real.
[00:21:34]  It's categorically not real.
[00:21:36]  Also, it's kind of funny when you actually read the rules because Alex Jones himself is furthering some of these fake communist goals.
[00:21:42]  Of course, of course.
[00:21:43]  Number 24 is, quote, eliminate all laws governing obscenity and calling them by calling them censorship and a violation of free speech and the free press.
[00:21:52]  It doesn't sound familiar.
[00:21:53]  If I'm not much mistaken, Alex fancies himself a bit of a free speech absolutist these days and absolutely would support getting rid of all obscenity laws that limit free expression.
[00:22:01]  So I guess he's a commie.
[00:22:02]  There you go.
[00:22:03]  Number 35 is, quote, discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
[00:22:07]  If I'm not much mistaken.
[00:22:09]  Woo!
[00:22:09]  Let's do it!
[00:22:11]  Alex has spent the last three years of his on-air career screaming about how the FBI is completely infiltrated by globalists and Trump needs to clean house and jail all of them.
[00:22:19]  It does sound familiar.
[00:22:20]  It seems like what a commie would do.
[00:22:21]  He's a commie.
[00:22:22]  Most damningly, number 42 is, quote, create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of American tradition.
[00:22:30]  If I'm not much mistaken, in this very episode, Alex has discussed the necessity of insurrection if his team doesn't win the next election.
[00:22:38]  His goddamn catchphrase is the answer to 1984 is 1776.
[00:22:43]  Alex Jones is someone who is very, very into making violence and insurrection a legitimate aspect of American tradition, just like a commie would.
[00:22:52]  I think we all heard it here first.
[00:22:55]  Alex Jones is a communist.
[00:22:56]  To be fair, that rule about insurrection is in the context of the rules, the fake rules that Skousen wrote, is specifically about disenfranchised communities.
[00:23:07]  Yeah, whoa, of course.
[00:23:09]  It's specifically about minority and special interest groups not getting the idea that insurrection is part of it.
[00:23:16]  For Alex, it's like, ah, it's no big deal.
[00:23:18]  I'm waiting.
[00:23:19]  Anyway, this list is stupid anti-communist chain email bullshit bait.
[00:23:23]  But Alex is too fucking stupid to know how many.
[00:23:27]  He doesn't even know how many goals there are.
[00:23:28]  He's just 49.
[00:23:30]  Well, you're forgetting the four secret goals.
[00:23:33]  Oh, okay.
[00:23:34]  Race memory.
[00:23:36]  So, Alex, you know, he's saying here that you got this globalist plan that's being furthered by people like Kelly and McMaster and Tillerson and Nikki Haley.
[00:23:47]  At least she stood up against it.
[00:23:48]  You know, it's all to demoralize society as proven by the WikiLeaks and this fake 45 list of globalist communist plots.
[00:23:57]  And how it's going to manifest and how it has manifested is a list of curses upon our country that Alex reads.
[00:24:04]  It doesn't read off.
[00:24:05]  He just starts discussing here.
[00:24:06]  I'm going to take these one by one after this clip and explain means nothing.
[00:24:12]  We already knew what Nikki Haley has come out and said was true.
[00:24:16]  That they would come to her and say, Trump is an idiot.
[00:24:20]  He's going to destroy the country.
[00:24:22]  You've got to help us undermine him and not support him and block his agenda.
[00:24:28]  When the globalists have sat here and presided over the deindustrialization of America, the dumbing down of America, our life expectancy plumbing, plummeting, infant mortality exploding, and all the other curses that are upon the nation.
[00:24:46]  And then Trump comes in, gets elected, tries to be the president.
[00:24:49]  He's trying to undo all that.
[00:24:51]  Yeah.
[00:24:52]  So deindustrialization is the first thing he brings up.
[00:24:55]  That is far more complicated of an issue than Alex seems to think.
[00:24:57]  And honestly, I have no idea what statistics to even look into to discuss his points.
[00:25:02]  I don't know what he defines deindustrialization as.
[00:25:05]  I don't know what data point is going to be.
[00:25:08]  And if you do, if you do, whenever he gets it, he'll change his definition.
[00:25:13]  It's undoable.
[00:25:14]  So I don't care.
[00:25:15]  Too possible.
[00:25:16]  It's too vague to be discussed.
[00:25:17]  I move along.
[00:25:18]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:18]  I'm not saying you, I'm not, I'm not conceding the point.
[00:25:21]  No.
[00:25:21]  I'm saying irrelevant to the conversation.
[00:25:23]  Move along.
[00:25:24]  It is not a point concession.
[00:25:26]  It is pointless.
[00:25:27]  Yeah.
[00:25:27]  So the next is the dumbing down of America.
[00:25:29]  What does he mean by that?
[00:25:30]  Is that based on IQ scores?
[00:25:32]  Because those aren't a perfect test of intelligence by any means.
[00:25:35]  And even if they were, a January 2018 paper in the journal Intelligence notes that while there were drops in Nordic nations' IQ scores that had been observed, the U.S. was on an upward trajectory, rising 0.3 points per year.
[00:25:48]  Plus, again, IQ scores don't really mean anything.
[00:25:51]  To demonstrate how dumb this whole conversation is, allow me to read to you two headlines from the INC, Inc., the website.
[00:25:58]  The first is, quote, we're all getting dumber, new science proves, and no one is sure why.
[00:26:03]  That was from June 14th, 2018.
[00:26:07]  Flash forward to June 27th, 2019, and you get this headline: quote, humanity might not be getting dumber after all, new study suggests.
[00:26:16]  A year apart, the same publication, and both articles were written by the same person.
[00:26:23]  What are we?
[00:26:24]  There's too much content.
[00:26:25]  People just have too much content.
[00:26:27]  It was written by the same person.
[00:26:28]  You got a byline.
[00:26:29]  You got to fill space.
[00:26:31]  You just got to.
[00:26:32]  Sometimes you can just let it go, man.
[00:26:34]  In 2018, everyone saw this study about a drop in IQ that was observed in a study of people living in Norway and reported it super irresponsibly.
[00:26:42]  Then, when more data was in, it was all, whoops, I guess we're not getting dumber after all.
[00:26:47]  Every single article I can find that discusses the we're getting dumber idea as being proven links to that Norwegian study, and it's all shit, or at very least, woefully oversimplified.
[00:26:57]  Yeah.
[00:26:58]  If Alex wants to suggest that the population is getting dumber, he needs to explain what he means by that.
[00:27:03]  I'm almost certain that he just read headlines that came out in 2018 about this Norway study, and he hasn't cared to read any of the newer information that completely contradicts it and actually shows the opposite.
[00:27:13]  And again, IQ scores don't mean anything.
[00:27:15]  Standardized test scores, I don't necessarily believe is even a good indicator of intelligence on this scale.
[00:27:23]  To even have a full conversation about the idea that America is getting dumber, you really need to dig in to figure out what are your indicators.
[00:27:32]  How do you define intelligence?
[00:27:35]  And I don't think he's equipped to have that.
[00:27:37]  I think he just has read a few headlines.
[00:27:38]  He wants to yell at the kids.
[00:27:40]  He doesn't want to have a conversation.
[00:27:41]  He wants to be like, oh, kids with TikTok.
[00:27:43]  I don't even know what it is.
[00:27:45]  Yeah.
[00:27:45]  So life expectancy is plummeting, according to Alex.
[00:27:48]  He's talking shit.
[00:27:49]  Yeah.
[00:27:50]  In 1970, the life expectancy in the United States was 70.81 years.
[00:27:54]  In 2016, it was 78.69 years.
[00:27:57]  That is not a plummet.
[00:27:58]  Generally speaking, life expectancy in the United States is on the upward path and it has been for decades.
[00:28:03]  There was a 0.15 year drop from 2014 to 2015, and you can find plenty of articles taking this very seriously.
[00:28:10]  And I'm not suggesting they shouldn't, but I think it would be a little bit much to call that a plummet.
[00:28:15]  I have a strong suspicion that Alex isn't talking about U.S. life expectancy.
[00:28:20]  I think he's talking about white people.
[00:28:23]  A very specific group of people?
[00:28:25]  I believe so.
[00:28:26]  Perhaps men who are one?
[00:28:28]  A recent paper in the journal Population and Development Review observed life expectancy rates among non-Hispanic white Americans increasing at a lower rate than the general population.
[00:28:39]  They weren't able to pinpoint the exact reason for this, but some of the prevailing theories had to do with the opiate crisis killing more young rural white people and with obesity levels.
[00:28:48]  Yeah, I'm going to go with those two.
[00:28:50]  Whatever the exact reason for the phenomenon is, you can find articles with headlines that are, you know, you can just imagine how easily they would trigger Alex.
[00:28:56]  Yeah.
[00:28:57]  From Science Daily, quote, for non-Hispanic whites in the United States, life expectancy outlook worsens.
[00:29:02]  Jeez.
[00:29:03]  From AJMC, quote, study reveals declining life expectancy among white Americans.
[00:29:09]  There's some real issues behind this stuff, for sure, like dealing with what researchers call deaths of despair, like overdoses and suicides.
[00:29:17]  But from listening to as much Alex as I have, I'd be very inclined to think that he's read some of these headlines about white life expectancy, and then he got really mad.
[00:29:24]  Yeah, that was decided life expectancy is plummeting in the United States.
[00:29:27]  Yep.
[00:29:28]  Good life expectancy is he would, you know.
[00:29:31]  That's my suspicion.
[00:29:32]  Yeah.
[00:29:33]  So infant mortality, Alex is saying it's exploding.
[00:29:36]  It's not.
[00:29:37]  According to data from the CDC, the U.S. infant mortality rate decreased 14% between 2007 and 2017.
[00:29:44]  I have no idea what Alex is talking about.
[00:29:46]  There are no other curses that are upon the nation.
[00:29:49]  Alex Jones, everything he just said in that clip means nothing.
[00:29:53]  And for the most part, it isn't based on any reality.
[00:29:55]  At very best, he's skimmed some headlines and he's using whatever they made him feel as fuel.
[00:30:02]  Just the anger that he gets from these headlines.
[00:30:06]  I know a curse left on America.
[00:30:10]  Its name is Alex.
[00:30:12]  Lack of critical thinking.
[00:30:13]  Alex.
[00:30:14]  Ease of lying.
[00:30:16]  Yeah.
[00:30:16]  Yeah.
[00:30:17]  That is a curse.
[00:30:18]  The percentage of that has gone way up in the past couple of years.
[00:30:21]  Yeah.
[00:30:22]  So, you know, we got all these curses that are upon America, which don't really seem to be real.

=== Smashing Goblins (04:31) ===

[00:30:27]  But even if they are real, America is finally awake.
[00:30:32]  We're finally waking up.
[00:30:33]  We're weak because of all the curses, but we're awake.
[00:30:37]  Okay.
[00:30:37]  And we're out of the coma.
[00:30:39]  We're sick.
[00:30:41]  We're stumbling around.
[00:30:42]  We got diarrhea running down our legs, but our eyes are getting clear and we see what's going on.
[00:30:47]  And even though we're in a debilitated state, we're bigger and stronger than these gremlins that had us tied down on the operating table and that we're about to finally finish us off and sell our organs off to the highest bidder.
[00:31:00]  Sure.
[00:31:00]  That's the metaphor.
[00:31:02]  And I personally am doing everything I can.
[00:31:05]  I got my hands on a couple of the gremlins and I'm squeezing them and they're dying.
[00:31:09]  Ah, well, they're stabbing me in the guts.
[00:31:10]  I'm just, ah, I don't want to throw these down and grab some more.
[00:31:13]  The only way I can do that is when you spread the word and when you buy the products and when you pray for it, you do that.
[00:31:18]  Damn.
[00:31:19]  I can just start smashing goblins, smashing them, smashing them, smashing them and just fling them up against the wall and break every bone in their body.
[00:31:27]  And then I'm just going to aim like a big rhinoceros and just run through them.
[00:31:31]  I can kill the goblins, but I need your money to kill goblins.
[00:31:35]  I like his new candy crush marketing strategy of like, send me money and you'll get better at allowing me to kill goblins for you.
[00:31:42]  I like that.
[00:31:43]  He should have some microtransactions.
[00:31:45]  Yeah, does he have in-app purchases on goblin dead?
[00:31:49]  Click the button, goblin dead, goblin dead.
[00:31:52]  Yeah.
[00:31:53]  So that was pretty gross.
[00:31:55]  I found that to be pretty gross.
[00:31:57]  Yeah.
[00:31:58]  This is how Alex goes out to break.
[00:32:00]  And I thought, like, I noticed a weird phrasing that he keeps using.
[00:32:04]  And I wonder if you'll, I think you'll get, I think you'll know exactly where this comes from.
[00:32:08]  My gut's never wrong.
[00:32:10]  And I'm telling you that this whole country and President Trump of the world is in grave danger.
[00:32:16]  So guard yourself for true.
[00:32:20]  Infowars.com.
[00:32:22]  It's where the defense of human liberty and a pro-human future lives.
[00:32:27]  So he said guard yourself for true a number of times.
[00:32:30]  I'm like, I know that's from something.
[00:32:32]  I recognize that.
[00:32:33]  Guard yourself for true.
[00:32:35]  It's from Dune.
[00:32:35]  Yeah.
[00:32:36]  He's just referencing.
[00:32:36]  He's just quoting Dune.
[00:32:38]  I was like, that has to be from somewhere else.
[00:32:42]  It's just more sci-fi.
[00:32:43]  I was like, I thought he was like, gird yourself.
[00:32:46]  He was misspeaking, but no, he's.
[00:32:48]  Yeah, the phrasing guard yourself for true is so specific.
[00:32:52]  It's insane.
[00:32:53]  It's insane how many things are just like the little things he's ripped from various sci-fi things.
[00:33:02]  Guard yourself for true.
[00:33:03]  And that was Frank Herbert doing some Shakespearean ripoff kind of noise right there.
[00:33:09]  Sure.
[00:33:09]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:10]  So Alex did that shitty, I can kill goblins if you give me money.
[00:33:14]  Money allows me to kill goblins thing.
[00:33:17]  And then he comes back and he does a long rant about the everything must go sale that is still going on.
[00:33:22]  Sure.
[00:33:23]  That it's got to end.
[00:33:25]  Everything is not gone.
[00:33:26]  But so much is selling out that he has to end this sale, but he keeps not ending the sale.
[00:33:32]  It just keeps going on.
[00:33:34]  And, you know, you got to buy his product so he can kill goblins.
[00:33:37]  Right.
[00:33:37]  But that's not enough.
[00:33:38]  And our local affiliates, and I'll say this.
[00:33:41]  It's just as important to support Infowars as it is to support the local affiliates who are these shows put us on.
[00:33:48]  We're standing up for babies.
[00:33:50]  Most your churches aren't.
[00:33:51]  I would give your money to the local radio stations to hear us on.
[00:33:54]  Literally, I'd make a tithe weekly or monthly instead of those local churches that won't do a damn thing but make you feel good about eternity while selling out civilization.
[00:34:04]  If somebody just tithes to a radio station, does Alex, in that agreement that they have to sign for Alex to broadcast on their channel, is it's one part of that if somebody tithes, he gets a cut?
[00:34:16]  No, no, what I would guess is that Alex is aware that almost nobody would send money to a radio station that airs a certain show.
[00:34:26]  And so if you are like working at this radio station and some people, even if it's a minuscule amount, send money as like a here, thank you for airing Alex's show.
[00:34:36]  That would be a hugely popular show.
[00:34:38]  It would make you much less inclined to take it off the air because it would like in the same way they talk about how one phone call is equivalent to 100 people in Congress.

=== Turning Point USA Controversy (15:30) ===

[00:34:49]  Congress members view that as being representative of a much larger thing.
[00:34:56]  Most people will think this thing, but not follow through with it.
[00:35:00]  You've got to assume if you're getting a fucking check from somebody because they listen to Alex's show and you're a radio station that airs it and you're still making all the ad money and all that shit, you'd be like, that's got to be 100,000 fucking people represented by this one check.
[00:35:15]  And that's probably not true.
[00:35:16]  But if Alex can trick like, I don't know, five people around the country to do that, he's got five stations he's far more secure in than he would be otherwise.
[00:35:25]  It's just good strategy.
[00:35:27]  I mean, it's sacrilegious for sure.
[00:35:29]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:35:30]  No, it's wrong.
[00:35:32]  It's wrong.
[00:35:32]  On a number of levels.
[00:35:34]  So we get back to this stuff about Nikki Haley.
[00:35:39]  And so Alex is mostly concerned about how people like General Kelly and Taylor Sand were trying to keep Infowars away from Trump.
[00:35:52]  Right.
[00:35:53]  That seems to be the spoke in this wheel that he's most concerned about.
[00:35:56]  It does seem to come up, yeah.
[00:35:58]  And it's because Alex broke really important stories long before anybody else.
[00:36:04]  This isn't like we're some leftist or mainline conservative show claiming we're the zeitgeist.
[00:36:09]  We're the zeitgeist.
[00:36:10]  You are the zeitgeist, literally, with Kelly.
[00:36:15]  It was in the New York Times, the Washington Post, everywhere.
[00:36:17]  But I confirmed inside the White House it was do not let him have infowars.com.
[00:36:24]  Do not let the president talk to people like Dinesh D'Souza.
[00:36:31]  Wow.
[00:36:32]  Right.
[00:36:32]  They tried to keep Trump Jr. out who brings him the truth.
[00:36:37]  Trump doesn't know all of this stuff until people show him.
[00:36:43]  And he knows we exposed Fiona Hill first here.
[00:36:48]  We exposed Ciaramella here simultaneously with Mike Cernovich.
[00:36:56]  And the deep state thought that Cernovich and I had the same sources.
[00:37:01]  We learned later they were different sources.
[00:37:04]  And I never outsources.
[00:37:06]  He had quite a few.
[00:37:09]  Still does.
[00:37:09]  But it was public that Don Jr. was releasing information.
[00:37:15]  So when I released that, I was not releasing that one of his sources was Don Jr.
[00:37:20]  He still got pissed off about it.
[00:37:21]  No, fine.
[00:37:22]  Fine.
[00:37:24]  Let's call that sources.
[00:37:26]  Whatever, Alex.
[00:37:28]  You can play whatever games you want.
[00:37:31]  I'm not going to give a shit.
[00:37:32]  So here we have Alex insisting that General Kelly wanted to keep Alex's information away from Trump because Alex was just so accurate based on the fact that he'd been yelling about Fiona Hill in the past.
[00:37:42]  And apparently you'd mentioned Eric Ciomarella, Cioromella, which is the name that's being thrown around as being the whistleblower who brought up concerns about Trump's phone call with the Ukrainian president.
[00:37:53]  Sure.
[00:37:53]  I'm not sure if that is accurate.
[00:37:55]  It very well could be.
[00:37:56]  I didn't care to look into it too much.
[00:37:59]  But beyond that, all this is bullshit.
[00:38:01]  The bigger picture is bullshit.
[00:38:03]  And I want to parse through this pretty carefully.
[00:38:05]  In terms of Eric Ciaromella, I can only find references to his name being on the Infowars dating back to November 1st, 2019.
[00:38:13]  And it's based on a tweet from Benny Johnson, who's a guy who has found a job working with Turning Point USA after getting unceremoniously fired from multiple publications for plagiarism.
[00:38:23]  He's someone with zero credibility.
[00:38:25]  And whether or not he has the name right about this alleged whistleblower, it's unwise to base your reporting on his say-so.
[00:38:31]  This is the source that Alex is pretending is some high-level guy, just some dude at Turning Point.
[00:38:37]  Great.
[00:38:38]  Benny Johnson tweeted out this guy's name a full two days prior to InfoWars even having an article about this dude.
[00:38:44]  It would seem like if the globalists in the White House, like Rex Tillerson, were concerned about rogue reporting like this, they would seek to keep people like Benny Johnson and Turning Point out, not people like Alex who were just reposting the shit two days later that they've already put out.
[00:38:58]  And interestingly, they don't.
[00:39:01]  Turning Point USA has a very close relationship with the Trumps.
[00:39:04]  And in fact, just the other day, they hosted a big event for Don Jr.'s new book, Triggered, which was disrupted by trolls associated with straight-up white nationalist Nick Fuentes.
[00:39:13]  Got to be very careful about that.
[00:39:15]  And how is he coming back?
[00:39:19]  I hate to use this sort of language necessarily, but that's an important thing to pay attention to that's going on right now.
[00:39:28]  Nick Fuentes and his dudes who are trying to, the way I would describe it is try to usurp the Turning Point USA by disrupting their events and heralding their true conservative values, which are really just Christian white supremacist views.
[00:39:45]  Yeah.
[00:39:46]  Christian identity, more or less.
[00:39:48]  So we need to be very aware of that because it looks like a situation where you're like, ah, let them fight.
[00:39:57]  But in reality, what you have is a vapid grift in the form of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA.
[00:40:05]  What they're doing is dumb, also full of some racists.
[00:40:09]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
[00:40:11]  But the version that Nick Fuentes is involved in is far more extreme.
[00:40:15]  That version of conservatism is way more fucked up.
[00:40:19]  And what he's doing is trying to use Turning Point's platform in order to increase his own.
[00:40:26]  And I think that he'll probably be successful because.
[00:40:29]  Well, I mean, that's why they were trying to keep InfoWars and Dinesh D'Souza and shit away from Trump is because you're not supposed to get high on your own supply.
[00:40:39]  You can't forget that you're running the game on the roops.
[00:40:42]  Because if you start to believe InfoWars shit, then it's over.
[00:40:47]  You've got that virulent Nazi conservatism.
[00:40:51]  Right.
[00:40:51]  And to an extent, I think this is one of the problems that you see of these things like InfoWars or Turning Point entirely is that they aren't really based in anything.
[00:41:03]  No.
[00:41:04]  So when InfoWars exists as this conspiracy theory bullshit entity for a really long time, it leaves the audience and Alex himself pray for someone like Trump to come along.
[00:41:18]  You know, you have Roger Stone come in.
[00:41:20]  He completely validates.
[00:41:21]  It's not a hostile takeover necessarily, but you have this thing that's much more powerful than him come in, and now Alex has become that.
[00:41:31]  Turning point is pointless.
[00:41:34]  The sort of, what would you call it even, pseudo-libertarian values that they express are not appealing to college kids.
[00:41:42]  No.
[00:41:43]  They're not appealing to the younger generations.
[00:41:46]  And so you have this thing, this entity that exists that is just ripe for the picking for someone like a Nick Fuentes to come along and use his trolls to do whatever he needs to do with.
[00:42:00]  And I think it's actually, I think it's a pretty dangerous thing.
[00:42:05]  I don't know if it'll amount to anything, but I do think it's something that's important for people to recognize.
[00:42:11]  Because when we talked about Nick, he was on InfoWars because he disrupted a Charlie, or his guys disrupted a Charlie Kirk event.
[00:42:19]  And one-off, it's like, eh, you might just be fucking with this guy.
[00:42:23]  There's a clear targeting that's going on by associates of Nick Fuentes that they're trying to attack Turning Point.
[00:42:32]  And it's not because of some.
[00:42:34]  They're trying to annex Turning Point.
[00:42:36]  Yes.
[00:42:37]  And then they're going to use that leverage.
[00:42:38]  They're trying to demonstrate the vapidity of it, but not for some better reason.
[00:42:43]  It's to radicalize the people who are there to be radicalized.
[00:42:49]  And that's dangerous because.
[00:42:51]  I mean, Turning Point, and it's a worse version of the election of Trump entirely is just this massive system that has been preying upon people and trying to keep them inert and just trying to fucking convince them of all kinds of things that aren't real will be inevitably taken over by somebody who is simply simply Jesus.
[00:43:19]  Who is making the message simple, clear, and pretending to stand up for something?
[00:43:24]  And worse.
[00:43:25]  Exactly.
[00:43:26]  You make the message worse and point out how, like, what was it?
[00:43:30]  I read some great take on it.
[00:43:32]  That was like, you'll always end up, the way that the conservative shit works, you'll always end up falling victim to someone who claims that you're not the real conservative.
[00:43:41]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:43:42]  And they are.
[00:43:42]  You're not standing up for true conservative values.
[00:43:46]  Because that's what you said when you took over.
[00:43:49]  Right.
[00:43:49]  It's how it works.
[00:43:50]  So all that aside, you know, Turning Point USA has a very deep, entwined relationship with Trump.
[00:43:58]  And get this.
[00:43:59]  One of the places that Benny Johnson was fired from was the Independent Journal Review.
[00:44:04]  Before he got fired, the IJR was the only media outlet invited to come along with Rex Tillerson on his tour of Asia.
[00:44:11]  Seems like Alex's narrative doesn't make a whole lot of sense here because the guy who outed this alleged whistleblower's name is a guy who works for Turning Point, and Tillerson was involved with the organization that he used to be at.
[00:44:23]  And now the Trump White House is totally fine with Turning Point.
[00:44:27]  They're not trying to keep that information away from him.
[00:44:30]  Just in Force.
[00:44:31]  I wonder why.
[00:44:31]  Maybe there's another reason.
[00:44:33]  So now, as for Fiona Hill, that one's a little more complicated.
[00:44:37]  As you may recall, Hill is the former National Security Council official who has testified that after becoming aware that there was a bit of a quid pro quo situation going on between Trump's people and the Ukrainian government, John Bolton told her to lawyer up.
[00:44:51]  And she's testified about some stuff.
[00:44:54]  And that testimony is going to be pretty important in terms of this impeachment investigation because it's very explicit.
[00:45:00]  She was in meetings where people like Ambassador Sondland were discussing the shit pretty openly.
[00:45:05]  So whatever actually ends up happening on that front, it's very important for Alex to discredit her as a source of any information.
[00:45:12]  And luckily for him, he's already done that.
[00:45:14]  On May 31st, 2017, Roger Stone appeared on Alex's show and announced that he learned that George Soros had infiltrated the Trump administration by installing Fiona Hill into the National Security Committee.
[00:45:26]  Weirdly, she was appointed by Trump himself.
[00:45:28]  So I'm not exactly sure.
[00:45:30]  Soros!
[00:45:31]  You wear so many masks!
[00:45:33]  I'm not sure how this conspiracy is supposed to have played out in the real world, but unfortunately, Roger isn't big on the details.
[00:45:39]  I wonder why.
[00:45:40]  There's a couple important points here.
[00:45:41]  And then the first is that Alex and Roger spent the better part of three years calling literally everyone they disagreed with Soros infiltrators.
[00:45:49]  Reince Priebus, Steve Bannon, Sean Spicer.
[00:45:52]  Oh, and let's not forget Jared Kushner and Ivanka have all been in the crosshairs as Soros plants and globalist meddlers at various points in time.
[00:46:02]  Alex doesn't get to pretend that he was prophetic about Fiona Hill eventually testifying about Trump because he said on air that she was a Soros plant because he calls everyone a Soros plant.
[00:46:11]  It doesn't mean anything.
[00:46:13]  He should have one episode at least where he just takes like an hour and just reads off every single name in the executive branch entirely and just be like, let's see, where are we at?
[00:46:24]  We're at assistant deputy director of the that's a Soros plant.
[00:46:29]  That way, six months from now, he can be like, see, I told you it was this one.
[00:46:33]  Caught the clip.
[00:46:34]  Yep.
[00:46:35]  So probably the more important element to this is that in Hill's recent testimony, she talked about the real-life impact of Alex and Rogers' actions.
[00:46:43]  Quote, my entire first year of my tenure at the National Security Council was filled with hateful calls, conspiracy theories, which has started again, frankly, as it's been announced that I've been giving this deposition, accusing me of being a Soros mole in the White House.
[00:46:57]  She went on to say, quote, I received, I just have to tell you, death threats, calls at my home.
[00:47:03]  My neighbors reportedly reported someone coming and hammering on my door.
[00:47:08]  Fiona Hill's life very well could have been put in danger.
[00:47:12]  And at very least, an insane level of harassment was directed at her directly because of Alex and Rogers' on-air behavior.
[00:47:20]  According to her own resume, which you can find, it's very public, she was a member of the Central Eurasia Project Advisory Board of the Open Society Institute from 2000 to 2006, a good decade before she was appointed to the NSC by Trump himself.
[00:47:36]  That's the connection.
[00:47:37]  The smoking gun that's enough for people like Alex and Roger to point to.
[00:47:42]  That's all they need to risk your life because they're so desperate to come up with any kind of rationalization for why their supposed God-King isn't getting anything done.
[00:47:50]  These people are vile, irredeemable monsters.
[00:47:53]  No one should feel pity for Alex when he has to pay the Sandy Hook families for what he did to them.
[00:47:58]  We should instead feel for the countless other people who will never get any restitution for the abuse they've been subjected to by Alex.
[00:48:05]  Like, I don't give a fuck about this.
[00:48:09]  Like, this idea that, oh, we pointed out that Fiona Hill was a Soros plant.
[00:48:13]  Oh, she worked for the open societies.
[00:48:17]  Who cares?
[00:48:18]  Who cares?
[00:48:18]  Choose anybody on the NSC.
[00:48:20]  I bet you can find something to point to if you want to call them out.
[00:48:23]  Yeah.
[00:48:23]  It's fucking bullshit, man.
[00:48:25]  They're careers.
[00:48:27]  This is how that world works.
[00:48:29]  You just jump from weird position to weird position, even if they, you know.
[00:48:33]  Yeah.
[00:48:34]  And if you have a certain expertise, you'll find your way somewhere.
[00:48:38]  Like, I just think it's so insane to look at this sort of thing and recognize the real-life impact that you never hear about.
[00:48:49]  Like, you generally wouldn't hear about what Fiona Hill's experience was after being targeted by Alex.
[00:48:54]  And you almost think it's like a second thoughts, you know, like, or whatever.
[00:48:59]  You don't even think about it because he does this to so many people.
[00:49:02]  Yeah.
[00:49:03]  But there are real-life consequences, and she had to deal with clearly doxing, because if people were calling her home and someone showed up at her house, like, and sure, a lot of other conservative outlets were pushing that she was a Soros mole, but it traces back to Roger.
[00:49:22]  So that fucking guy, man.
[00:49:24]  He better do time.
[00:49:26]  Yeah.
[00:49:26]  There's another funny wrinkle to this, but we're going to have to wait till a little later to get to that.
[00:49:30]  Okay.
[00:49:30]  Because Alex goes to break after yelling about how we broke this CR Morello, which you didn't.
[00:49:35]  You just fucking posted a tweet from a guy at Turning Point and Fiona Hill stuff.
[00:49:41]  And it's not true and pointless.
[00:49:44]  So he goes to break and he comes back.
[00:49:47]  And I think that this is one of the grosser things I've heard Alex say.
[00:49:51]  Oh, the Am I. Six founder and main funder of the White Helmets.

=== Alex's Theory (04:16) ===

[00:49:59]  So ISIS.
[00:50:01]  Hell knows her al-Qaeda could jump back and forth between the ambulances and to their mortars and heavy machine guns.
[00:50:08]  Just got found dead in his home in Turkey.
[00:50:11]  Guess he didn't complete the mission like he was supposed to.
[00:50:15]  So now the cleanup crews are out.
[00:50:17]  Another so-called James Bond found out that James Bond's just a fantasy.
[00:50:24]  This is the reality.
[00:50:26]  Pushing daisies now.
[00:50:30]  Hmm.
[00:50:31]  Wonder.
[00:50:32]  Wonder what happened to him.
[00:50:34]  He looks so young and healthy.
[00:50:37]  I wonder how John McCain's doing.
[00:50:39]  He helped set all that up, too.
[00:50:43]  He's not doing too well now.
[00:50:45]  So I'm going to go to your phone calls starting next segment.
[00:50:50]  Gross fuck.
[00:50:52]  First things first, the founder of MI6 died in 1928.
[00:50:56]  The person who Alex is talking about is a guy named James Le Messerier, who, as far as I can tell, was a former officer of the British Army and co-founder of the White Helmets.
[00:51:05]  That's an organization that literally everyone in the world other than Alex and his weirdo friends view as a humanitarian group.
[00:51:13]  At this point, it's pretty unclear what the situation about this death is.
[00:51:18]  Sky News was reporting that James's wife told police that she and her husband had taken sleeping pills and gone to bed.
[00:51:24]  Then later, she was awoken by people knocking on her door.
[00:51:27]  She went outside to find him in the street, surrounded by police, having fallen off the balcony.
[00:51:32]  As someone who's taken sleeping pills before, I can say that it seems entirely possible that he might have had a weird reaction and sleepwalked off the balcony.
[00:51:39]  That's possible.
[00:51:40]  I don't know if that's the case for sure, but pharmacologically, that is a possibility.
[00:51:45]  His wife also apparently told friends that James had just begun taking antidepressants.
[00:51:51]  So the possibility of him dying by suicide is also not totally outside the realm of possibility.
[00:51:57]  There is a lot of possibilities of what could have happened here.
[00:52:01]  But Alex isn't acting like those things are possible.
[00:52:04]  He's treating this like it was a murder, and he's fucking gloating about it.
[00:52:08]  That's grotesque behavior, no matter what the reality is here.
[00:52:12]  Alex is acting like this is a murder because he believes that Russia killed this dude.
[00:52:17]  This is based on the fact that three days prior to his death, the Russian foreign ministry tweeted out, quote, the White Helmet's co-founder, James Le Messourier, is a former agent of Britain's MI6 who has been spotted all around the world, including in the Balkans and the Middle East.
[00:52:31]  The proof Alex has for his claim that this dude was MI6 is just the Russian Foreign Ministry's Twitter account.
[00:52:38]  And because of this tweet, Alex has decided that Russia killed him, and Alex is happy about this turn of events.
[00:52:43]  I know that I sound like a broken record on these modern-day episodes, but Alex Jones is severely mentally ill.
[00:52:49]  He's imagining a foreign government killed a man, and he's relishing it.
[00:52:53]  It doesn't get better from here, guys.
[00:52:55]  Like, get this guy to a hospital.
[00:52:57]  Yeah, that's fucked up.
[00:52:59]  Yeah.
[00:52:59]  And then just bringing Mega, then just bringing McCain up, like, okay.
[00:53:04]  All right.
[00:53:05]  So we're just going to gloat about people dying.
[00:53:10]  That's what we're doing now?
[00:53:11]  Yep, that's what he's doing.
[00:53:12]  This is a big show.
[00:53:14]  But that's not so outside of his when David Rockefeller died.
[00:53:19]  He was so celebrating.
[00:53:21]  Yeah.
[00:53:21]  He does this shit a lot.
[00:53:23]  It's grotesque, childish behavior that he needs to figure out.
[00:53:28]  Yeah, he has a lot of work to do on himself.
[00:53:30]  That's wild.
[00:53:31]  I don't think he has the emotional capital.
[00:53:34]  Everything I read about Masurier seemed like he was a cool dude.
[00:53:38]  Yeah.
[00:53:39]  Yeah.
[00:53:40]  Cool dude.
[00:53:40]  I'm not one to pretend that I know a lot or like that I'm an expert in the Syrian civil war, but everything that I can find that isn't Alex Jones related deals with this as a humanitarian organization that rescued civilians who were caught up in battle zones.
[00:54:00]  So I don't, I mean, even imagining that he is a bad person, this behavior is still no good.

=== Man Chooses Path, God Guides Steps (03:49) ===

[00:54:09]  Yeah.
[00:54:11]  I just, I think he's a fucking asshole.
[00:54:14]  But he's also needing money.
[00:54:16]  I'm begging you for yourself and your family's future and for the commitment of this broadcast that I want to defeat these people to please, please remember that it is only your word of mouth that gets us around the censors.
[00:54:32]  And it is only your financial support that funds the operation and only your prayer that I know if two of us agree upon it on earth, it's done in heaven.
[00:54:41]  That it is your intercession that is literally giving us discernment and it's not luck.
[00:54:49]  It's a man's heart chooses his path, but God guided our steps.
[00:54:57]  To quote a verse, I forget the verse.
[00:54:59]  But that's it.
[00:55:01]  And I need that.
[00:55:02]  I need that.
[00:55:03]  I absolutely need that.
[00:55:05]  Alex is playing real fast and loose with the Bible here.
[00:55:08]  Yeah.
[00:55:09]  So that first verse he's paraphrasing is Matthew 18, 19, which says, quote, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my father in heaven.
[00:55:21]  You could read that verse and think that you can get a buddy to join you in agreement about whatever you want, then God's going to make it so in heaven.
[00:55:27]  Well, that's a painfully dumb reading of the text.
[00:55:29]  If you take the verses that come before this and around it and context from the book of Acts, it's very clear that this is about the functions of the early church.
[00:55:38]  This is what this verse is about.
[00:55:40]  It has nothing to do with, you know, hey, you know, you guys get together.
[00:55:44]  We can make my operation functional.
[00:55:47]  Yeah, like, what do you want in heaven?
[00:55:50]  A pool.
[00:55:51]  A pool?
[00:55:52]  Yeah.
[00:55:52]  All right.
[00:55:52]  I can agree.
[00:55:53]  I can go with a pool.
[00:55:54]  We just got a pool.
[00:55:54]  We just got a pool in heaven.
[00:55:56]  Sweet.
[00:55:56]  The Department of Treasury up in heaven is going to have some religious issues.
[00:55:59]  What if we want heaven not to exist?
[00:56:03]  Ooh.
[00:56:04]  If we agree on that.
[00:56:05]  Wow, now we're having to.
[00:56:06]  I don't know if I can agree with you on that.
[00:56:07]  We might fucking ruin the entire universe.
[00:56:10]  See, this is how this gets ludicrous real fast.
[00:56:12]  Oh, you really have.
[00:56:13]  So the other one that he's citing is close enough.
[00:56:17]  That one is Proverbs 16, 9.
[00:56:19]  The one about man chooses his path, but God guides his steps.
[00:56:23]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:23]  Well, Alex is looking that one up, though, so he can make sure he actually knows what verse he's talking about.
[00:56:28]  You know, for future times he wants to cite this, he should read the rest of Proverbs 16.
[00:56:33]  Here's verses 27 and 28.
[00:56:35]  Quote, a worthless man digs up evil, and his speech is like a scorching fire.
[00:56:39]  A perverse man spreads dissension and a gossip divides close friends.
[00:56:45]  I don't understand.
[00:56:46]  Maybe he'd prefer Proverbs 16, 32.
[00:56:49]  Quote, he who is slow to anger is better than a warrior, and he who controls his temper is greater than one who captures a city.
[00:56:57]  And now I remember exactly why I hated reading Proverbs when I was growing up is because it's real judgy.
[00:57:02]  It's real judgy.
[00:57:03]  Who the fuck are you, Solomon?
[00:57:05]  How about shut up?
[00:57:06]  Seems like there's a whole lot in this one chapter of Proverbs that Alex didn't seem to absorb.
[00:57:10]  If I had to bet, I bet he saw that fucking verse on a mug.
[00:57:13]  Oh, yeah, 100%.
[00:57:15]  100%.
[00:57:16]  I cannot stress strongly enough.
[00:57:21]  I do not believe that Alex has ever read the Bible.
[00:57:24]  No.
[00:57:25]  Not even close.
[00:57:26]  Nope.
[00:57:26]  In the same way that all of his Thomas Jefferson quotes come from like memes and Patriot and right-wing extremist stuff, I bet a lot of his Bible stuff does too.
[00:57:35]  Like, and the weird sermons of extremist radio preachers, Christian identity preachers yelling about stuff.

=== Alex's Complicity Mocked (15:47) ===

[00:57:43]  So we got this whole vibe that's been going on that's like, hey, man, why is everybody so worried about InfoWars?
[00:57:52]  And obviously, Alex's rhetorical answer is because we revealed Fiona Hill and this whistleblower.
[00:57:59]  We have all this accurate information.
[00:58:01]  Did it all.
[00:58:02]  Now, the real answer is because your behavior leads to people's lives being at risk.
[00:58:07]  Well, yeah, I mean, that too.
[00:58:08]  Wow.
[00:58:09]  That's the real reason that people take this seriously and are like, this probably we should be aware of this.
[00:58:16]  So Alex sort of mocks the idea of people being concerned about what he's doing.
[00:58:21]  And then he lists off some good people in Congress.
[00:58:24]  Oh, no.
[00:58:25]  Why are they so worried about InfoWars?
[00:58:27]  Why are they still worried about Trump?
[00:58:30]  You see, the truth is they've sold out to the Shi Coms and others.
[00:58:35]  Pretty easy to run the country and run on the ground and sell it off.
[00:58:38]  We're fighting back against you.
[00:58:39]  We're not a bunch of yes men.
[00:58:41]  And neither is Congressman Scalesh or Congressman Jordan or Congressman Nunesh or some of the best senators that are up there.
[00:58:50]  Like the senator from Missouri, Hurley Turley.
[00:58:53]  All those guys are fighting hard.
[00:58:55]  Alex is trying to remember anything.
[00:58:57]  Senator Hurley Turley?
[00:58:58]  He's trying to remember anyone he's supposed to like in the Senate, and he can't even come up with Josh Holly's name.
[00:59:03]  Senator Hurley Turley.
[00:59:04]  Got to feel bad for Josh Holly.
[00:59:07]  You're from Missouri.
[00:59:09]  Yeah, you spent a lot of time.
[00:59:10]  I wasn't in office this time.
[00:59:12]  You voted for Senator Hurley Turley?
[00:59:14]  I did not.
[00:59:14]  Okay.
[00:59:15]  Hurley Burley.
[00:59:15]  Hurley Burley?
[00:59:16]  I voted for Donovan, the hurdy-gurdy man.
[00:59:20]  Some people call him Mello Yellow.
[00:59:22]  So now, as for the other people that Alex thinks are good in the house, Steve Scalise once described himself as David Duke without the baggage.
[00:59:30]  Hey, come on now.
[00:59:31]  That one's not great.
[00:59:32]  But Jim Jordan's even worse for Alex to support.
[00:59:35]  Just this week, it came out that a man who was one of the victims of the Ohio State Athletic Doctor's sexual assaults in the mid-90s directly reported the act to Jim Jordan, who was then the school's wrestling coach, and Jordan did nothing.
[00:59:48]  43 men have filed the lawsuit claiming that they were victims of this doctor.
[00:59:52]  And an independent investigation that OSU did found that he abused at least 177 students in the 20 years that he worked at the school.
[01:00:00]  Consistently in the past, Jordan has tried to claim that he never knew anything about the doctor's abuse of students, but this definitely seems to make that sound like bullshit, especially considering this is the second victim to say that they directly told Jordan about it.
[01:00:13]  And to be clear, this is a much bigger issue than just focusing on Jim Jordan.
[01:00:17]  There's a whole system of complicity that needs to be held to account.
[01:00:20]  And the plaintiffs in that case do not deserve for their day in court to be reduced to a political sideshow.
[01:00:26]  So please do not let that be the image of my point.
[01:00:31]  All that being said, when Alex has to come up with any politicians he's into, all he can come up with is a dime store David Duke, a thrift shop Joe Paterno, Devin Nunes, and a guy from Missouri whose name he doesn't know but remembers has said some fucked up things that he liked in the past.
[01:00:45]  I guess Rand Paul doesn't make the cut anymore.
[01:00:49]  He's just not in there anymore.
[01:00:50]  He's not making a headline.
[01:00:52]  That's nuts.
[01:00:53]  He's somehow a more moderate version of these fucking Looney Tunes cats.
[01:00:58]  It's so nuts that Alex is like, he's going with the guy from Missouri, Hurdy Gurdy.
[01:01:02]  Hurdy Gurdy.
[01:01:03]  Can't remember Senator Rand Paul.
[01:01:05]  Can't come up with Ron Paul's kid.
[01:01:08]  So I told you that there was going to be another wrinkle to the situation with Alex's coverage of Fiona Hill.
[01:01:16]  Sure.
[01:01:16]  And it comes up in this next clip because Alex accidentally plays the wrong clip, but it's from the same day that Roger did the Fiona Hill stuff.
[01:01:26]  And it reminded me of something that a lot of people might not.
[01:01:29]  It wouldn't jump out in other people's minds, but because I'm borderline obsessed with all this stuff, it made me laugh so fucking hard.
[01:01:37]  Here's Roger Stone in 2017.
[01:01:42]  And we got another clip of him just a year and a half ago breaking down John Kelly, how they were working with Steve Bannon to bring in the deep state and all these Soros people like Fiona Hill and Eric Ciaramella.
[01:01:56]  What does Bannon do?
[01:01:58]  He leaves in August, and by October, he has a financial deal with Kwok to finance a bid to finance Breitbart as the Mercers, who I do think are patriots, appear to be ready to throw in.
[01:02:15]  So let's be clear, he's calling Trump a traitor at the same time talking to a snake reporter that he brought Into the hen house and at the same time using national security intel to then go basically get money off of somebody so that he could be the person's political protector by every stretch of the imagination, by every historical yardstick.
[01:02:36]  This sounds like treason to me.
[01:02:39]  And then that's a particular clip dealing with Van and the clips we have.
[01:02:43]  You can just type into Google if you want.
[01:02:46]  So on one level, that clip is funny to me because once again, Alex's staff can't manage to play any of the clips that he wants them to.
[01:02:53]  He sets up what's supposed to be a slam dunk of Roger talking about Fiona Hill and this whistleblower, and it's just Roger from that same episode talking about Steve Bannon.
[01:03:01]  But here's where this gets really funny.
[01:03:04]  You might have heard Roger say something about a guy named Quok in that clip.
[01:03:08]  And this is a reference to a man named Miles Kwok having nefarious intentions behind some alleged financing of Breitbart.
[01:03:15]  You should know that Miles Kwok sued Roger Stone for defamation for this claim, along with a few others, like Roger saying that Quok was a convicted criminal.
[01:03:23]  And so he sued him for $100 million.
[01:03:26]  Did he get it?
[01:03:27]  On December 17th, 2018, Roger settled that case, made a public apology, and admitted that he'd repeated lies on InfoWars.
[01:03:34]  Right, right, right.
[01:03:35]  There it is.
[01:03:36]  Part of this settlement was that he had to pay for three advertisements retracting his statements in national newspapers.
[01:03:42]  Part of the story that Alex is currently using to attack Fiona Hill is based on stuff that got Roger sued and led to him having to buy ads in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post to retract.
[01:03:54]  Oh, also, I hope that re-airing the story doesn't end up getting Roger's settlement agreement voided.
[01:03:59]  Oh, I think it might.
[01:04:01]  That is hilarious.
[01:04:03]  That is so funny.
[01:04:04]  That is so goddamn funny.
[01:04:06]  Anyone knows Miles Kwok?
[01:04:07]  Feel free to.
[01:04:11]  Oh, God, that would bring such a smile to my face.
[01:04:15]  If all of a sudden Alex got a part of this narrative that Alex is now trying to repurpose because Fiona Hill is testifying against Trump in this impeachment investigation, part of the original context of it is stuff that got Roger sued and he had to retract.
[01:04:34]  Man, they got to figure out a way to quarantine certain things, you know?
[01:04:38]  Sure, you should.
[01:04:39]  Yeah.
[01:04:39]  You can't in this case.
[01:04:40]  Yeah, well.
[01:04:41]  They're tied together.
[01:04:42]  Exactly.
[01:04:42]  No, that's what I'm saying.
[01:04:43]  And so now Alex re-bringing it up, I think, actually could put Roger in legal jeopardy if anyone cares.
[01:04:50]  I think you're right.
[01:04:51]  I just mean like, and even if it doesn't, even if it doesn't.
[01:04:54]  Yeah.
[01:04:55]  whatever Alex is repeating of Roger's stuff here is all under the umbrella of stuff.
[01:05:00]  He's had to retract.
[01:05:01]  Yeah.
[01:05:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:05:02]  No, that's what I'm saying.
[01:05:03]  If you get sued for something, just take all of the day's footage and just be like, put a big red X on it with a circle around it.
[01:05:13]  We've created stop signs for this very reason.
[01:05:15]  You guys just can't do it.
[01:05:16]  We can't put this one.
[01:05:17]  Guys, one, I don't trust you.
[01:05:19]  You're shit.
[01:05:20]  You know it.
[01:05:21]  I know it.
[01:05:21]  We've been doing this show for a few months now.
[01:05:24]  Yeah.
[01:05:24]  You guys suck.
[01:05:25]  Yeah.
[01:05:25]  So don't touch that.
[01:05:26]  No.
[01:05:27]  Look at my eyes.
[01:05:28]  Don't touch the red tapes.
[01:05:31]  Hey.
[01:05:32]  Hey.
[01:05:33]  If you play this again, Roger might have to pay Miles Kwok $100 million.
[01:05:39]  Don't touch the red tapes.
[01:05:40]  Touch the red tapes?
[01:05:41]  No!
[01:05:41]  God damn it.
[01:05:42]  We'll start from the beginning.
[01:05:43]  So I told you at the beginning of this episode that about halfway through or so, we would get to like a very clear reason why I need, you know, we have to do this episode.
[01:05:52]  And here's what it is.
[01:05:54]  Alex believes that that book that the New York Times is putting out, or is, I don't know if the New York Times is putting out, but anyway, that anonymous.
[01:06:01]  The anonymous one, yeah, yeah.
[01:06:03]  That is about a warning about Trump.
[01:06:06]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[01:06:06]  Again, whatever.
[01:06:07]  Who cares?
[01:06:08]  Fuck off.
[01:06:09]  Alex is convinced that John Bolton wrote the anonymous book.
[01:06:14]  And I almost gasped when he told the audience why he believes this.
[01:06:20]  We have the New York Times coming out.
[01:06:23]  New York Times.
[01:06:24]  Saying they're getting ready to publish this anonymous book.
[01:06:28]  The word is it's John Bolton who we know wants to testify against the president.
[01:06:37]  Even though there's a separation of powers, the president by law supposed to be able to keep him from doing it.
[01:06:41]  He wants to go bear the false witness because he's a neocon, was always a neocon, but lied to Trump's face that he would try to carry out the president's agenda, the person that we elected.
[01:06:52]  Book review is a warning anonymous author makes case against re-election.
[01:06:57]  And Steve Pieczenik, who's worked with a lot of these people, says that John Bolton is today's Benedict Arnold.
[01:07:03]  Here he is from his YouTube channel.
[01:07:07]  Okay.
[01:07:08]  Hi, this is Dr. Pieczenik, and today I want to talk about John Bolton, the Benedict Arnold of America.
[01:07:15]  Holy shit.
[01:07:16]  Does Alex expect his audience to legitimately have no memory of the side characters in his little play?
[01:07:22]  How can he play a clip from Steve's YouTube page after their unceremonious falling out where Alex decided he was still working for the CIA doing psyops against InfoWars by trying to convince Alex that the Las Vegas shooting didn't even happen?
[01:07:35]  Legitimately, what the fuck is this show?
[01:07:37]  Some guest is determined to be a deep state spy running operations against you, so you just put them in timeout for a little while.
[01:07:43]  Yeah.
[01:07:44]  And I'm like, ah, fuck it.
[01:07:45]  Who cares?
[01:07:46]  Everybody, America's about second chances, Dan.
[01:07:48]  Fucking insane.
[01:07:49]  So is going to Korea, whether or not you actually did.
[01:07:53]  This is nuts.
[01:07:57]  Has Steve been back on the show?
[01:07:58]  No, and we'll get to why.
[01:08:00]  Oh, okay.
[01:08:01]  It's not what you think.
[01:08:03]  Okay.
[01:08:03]  But that is what happened back when their falling out happened.
[01:08:07]  But Alex gives a little bit more detail about that in a little bit.
[01:08:10]  Before we get there, I want to say this about Steve Pieczenik.
[01:08:13]  He's a lunatic, but he's consistent.
[01:08:16]  Steve Pieczenik hates neocons and has consistently, insistently tried to get Alex to be on the same page as him with no real success.
[01:08:25]  Steve was always there telling Alex not to trust neocons like Neil Gorsuch or John Bolton, but Alex didn't listen.
[01:08:32]  He let Roger Stone talk him into being okay with those dudes.
[01:08:36]  Steve Pieczenik is a big old fraud and a con man, but I will tip my hat to him for being pretty consistent.
[01:08:41]  He's crazy and a liar, but he has some form of principles, which is more than I can say for Alex.
[01:08:47]  Like, legitimately, how fucking humiliating is it for Alex to say on his show that Steve is probably still working for the CIA, which he didn't actually work for to begin with, and running psyops on his own audience, then allow him back on the show.
[01:09:00]  Do you think it's possible that Alex just doesn't even remember that he and Steve parted on those bad terms?
[01:09:06]  Because it's not real.
[01:09:08]  Stop CIA watches right once a day.
[01:09:11]  that's the rule right so you can still use no i have no idea But like Alex, he knows that none of this stuff that he talks about is real.
[01:09:18]  So obviously the fight between him and Steve about like, oh, he's probably still running psyops on our audience.
[01:09:23]  Yeah.
[01:09:23]  He knows that he's just making that up because he's sick of Steve.
[01:09:27]  I imagine the way that I saw the whole breakup playing out was something behind the scenes where Steve is like, I want to say things are false flags.
[01:09:38]  And Alex is like, we can't do it.
[01:09:40]  The heat is on me right now.
[01:09:41]  Don't do that.
[01:09:42]  And Steve said it was a false flag.
[01:09:44]  And he was like, I told you not to say that on my fucking show.
[01:09:47]  That might actually be correct.
[01:09:48]  And then they stop talking for a while.
[01:09:51]  And then, you know, he creates the whole, I'm making up a deep state narrative.
[01:09:55]  And then it's, you know, now we're fine.
[01:09:56]  Yeah, that's possibly true.
[01:09:58]  But Alex wants Steve back on the show now.
[01:10:00]  Of course he does.
[01:10:01]  A lot of calls about Steve Pieczenik.
[01:10:03]  We ought to get him back on the show.
[01:10:05]  Why?
[01:10:06]  Thad in Utah wants to talk about Pachenek.
[01:10:08]  So does Casey.
[01:10:09]  He's saying that the mole or the anonymous person of the New York Times is Bolton.
[01:10:14]  Well, I said that back when he got in.
[01:10:16]  No, Steve.
[01:10:16]  And he is the one.
[01:10:17]  And now he's going to testify against the president.
[01:10:19]  So the callers really want Steve back on.
[01:10:22]  He goes to a call.
[01:10:23]  This caller wants more Steve.
[01:10:25]  Okay.
[01:10:25]  And then Alex explains what's happened.
[01:10:28]  It's amazing to hear Steve Pieczenik on your program again.
[01:10:32]  It's been a while.
[01:10:33]  Alex.
[01:10:34]  Yeah, if you want him, come on.
[01:10:36]  He's refused to come on the show.
[01:10:38]  He's refused to come on the show.
[01:10:39]  Well, I think everybody should know you took a lot of flack, Alex, you know, because Dr. Steve was the one who originally brought up the idea that there could be some kind of ulterior motive with Sandy Hook.
[01:10:53]  And you know what?
[01:10:54]  All those press people that say that they protect their sources, I mean, you're actually that guy, Alex.
[01:11:02]  You're the one that didn't say, put anything on Dr. Steve.
[01:11:06]  You protected Dr. Steve.
[01:11:07]  And I admire that about you, man.
[01:11:10]  Well, look out.
[01:11:12]  I'm not trying to put him down.
[01:11:12]  You were just kind of like, hey, where's Pachenek?
[01:11:14]  And I get a lot of that.
[01:11:15]  So I'm like, well, he refuses to come on the show.
[01:11:17]  We've invited him on the show many times.
[01:11:19]  And I'm not going to say he's a coward.
[01:11:21]  I know he got put under a lot of heat coming on.
[01:11:23]  He's been called into federal court.
[01:11:25]  He's been called into federal court on other things that were said on the show.
[01:11:28]  So there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes.
[01:11:30]  And he's still speaking out and saying more bold things than ever that I agree with.
[01:11:35]  The things I've seen are dead on.
[01:11:37]  And so, yeah, he's been a source on many things.
[01:11:40]  We have a lot of other sources.
[01:11:41]  And he's invited on the show tomorrow.
[01:11:44]  I might have just pissed him off, too, one day.
[01:11:46]  I was up here.
[01:11:47]  I had a guest on before.
[01:11:47]  I made him hold like 15 minutes.
[01:11:49]  Then he got real pissed off and said, you know, I'm not coming on anymore.
[01:11:52]  He's made me hold or whatever.
[01:11:53]  Yeah.
[01:11:54]  And I'm like, well, I'm like, well, come on.
[01:11:56]  I won't make you hold.
[01:11:56]  He goes, no, I'm too old.
[01:11:58]  Hung up on me.
[01:11:59]  So that's the last conversation I had with him.
[01:12:02]  So I get it.
[01:12:02]  He's an old, cranky man.
[01:12:03]  But he's a good guy.
[01:12:04]  He should come back on the show.
[01:12:06]  That was wild.
[01:12:07]  That was a rollercoaster ride right there.
[01:12:09]  That was a fucking rollercoaster of a, I want this.
[01:12:14]  This man is my friend.
[01:12:15]  I mean, he's a coward.
[01:12:16]  He's a fucking coward because we've invited him on the show.
[01:12:19]  He's a fucking coward.
[01:12:20]  I think he's got a lot of great, really good things to say.
[01:12:23]  I mean, he's a bitter, angry old man sitting alone in his fucking house who won't come on my goddamn show.
[01:12:29]  I love him.
[01:12:29]  He's been a great friend of mine for a long time.
[01:12:32]  Jesus.
[01:12:33]  I know from listening to the show that their fighting existed before the break up, let's say.
[01:12:41]  Like when Alex called him in the middle of a hurricane.
[01:12:43]  I'm going to go with it was the hurricane that started.
[01:12:45]  But that wasn't the end of it.
[01:12:46]  Steve appeared after that.
[01:12:48]  Right.
[01:12:48]  It was the last appearance was surrounding the Las Vegas shooting.
[01:12:53]  Yeah.
[01:12:54]  And Alex having callers call in and say, I think Steve's probably still working in PsyOps.
[01:12:59]  And Alex's like, yep, that's fair to say.
[01:13:01]  Probably.
[01:13:01]  And then they didn't have him back on anymore.
[01:13:03]  So when I hear that, I mean, obviously, none of the stuff that Alex talks about is real.
[01:13:08]  Nor is any of the stuff Steve Pieczenik talks about.

=== Alex's Conspiracy Theory (15:25) ===

[01:13:10]  Absolutely not.
[01:13:12]  So what you kind of are left with is they probably did have a fight behind the scenes about whatever petty nonsense Alex making him hold or maybe it is not letting him say everything is fake.
[01:13:24]  And then Alex on air, the way he talks about it is he's probably still working for the CIA.
[01:13:30]  Of course.
[01:13:31]  So you have that lie to cover up just a petty disagreement between two liars.
[01:13:36]  Yeah.
[01:13:37]  Yes.
[01:13:37]  And it's clearly, now that he put it that way, now that he put it that way, then yeah, it is 100% a petty bullshit.
[01:13:46]  Clearly, it has something to do with one of them talking on the phone and them having an argument and him being like, you know what?
[01:13:52]  I don't need you.
[01:13:53]  And Alex being like, I don't need you.
[01:13:54]  And that's it.
[01:13:56]  You know, you want to kind of believe that Alex believes that Steve is working in Psyops.
[01:14:00]  And that's like, it's more interesting.
[01:14:03]  But the reality is all of that is window dressing.
[01:14:06]  That's all just, that's a narrative in and of itself.
[01:14:09]  Whereas the reality is just got into a fight with this old man.
[01:14:12]  Yeah.
[01:14:13]  That is not as much fun to say on Infowars.
[01:14:17]  That's not the place where you...
[01:14:18]  But when push comes to shove and you have a bunch of people calling in and being like, where's Steve?
[01:14:23]  We want more Steve.
[01:14:24]  You can't be like, No.
[01:14:27]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:14:28]  You can't just coward, bitter asshole who lives in fucking Florida.
[01:14:33]  And I want to have him back on.
[01:14:34]  I've tried to have him back on.
[01:14:36]  He's got a standing invitation.
[01:14:37]  So, anyway, the reason that we have a little bit of the 12th is because Alex said an open invitation for Steve to come on tomorrow.
[01:14:43]  So this is why I was hoping he would come back on tomorrow.
[01:14:46]  And he doesn't.
[01:14:46]  So we just have a couple.
[01:14:48]  You know what?
[01:14:48]  If I were better at teases, I would say maybe he does.
[01:14:51]  Yeah.
[01:14:52]  Spoiler alert, he doesn't.
[01:14:53]  He doesn't.
[01:14:54]  But we have a few clips from the 12th, but I thought we're still like, well, if I'm listening to this episode, you're already there.
[01:14:58]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:14:59]  So Alex gets another caller who wants to talk about chemtrails.
[01:15:02]  Sure.
[01:15:02]  And there's not much, like, I don't know how to set up this clip.
[01:15:08]  I just thought it was really insane.
[01:15:11]  I remember you saying, I can't think of how long ago it was, but it's over a year.
[01:15:15]  You were talking about them terraforming the planet.
[01:15:18]  And really, the way that strikes me now is this thing terraformed for AI.
[01:15:23]  Even the chemtrails, the stratospheric aerosol injection with a metallic oxide, makes everything more receptive to frequency.
[01:15:30]  And this control grid, the cybernetic control grid, you know, is more or less run on frequencies.
[01:15:35]  I mean, EMF, the RF, ULF, everything.
[01:15:39]  That's right.
[01:15:39]  And what did they tell you in Transcendence with Johnny Depp?
[01:15:43]  Because AI becomes a dust that is in the sky.
[01:15:46]  That is a smart dust where they can have a whole computer system, you know, way more advanced than even a smartphone in a single molecule.
[01:15:56]  And then it will be everything and absorb us.
[01:15:58]  And that's the endgame plan where you can't escape it.
[01:16:01]  And they're now already putting the binary weapon system into you, the aluminum dioxide and the other systems, so that then when the nanotech hits, they believe it will then be able to find a place in your body and bind to that.
[01:16:13]  And then through the 678G they're already rolling out and test, it will then be able to oscillate and program that to basically kill you, fry you.
[01:16:22]  As we learned in Johnny Depp movie.
[01:16:25]  Starring Johnny Depp.
[01:16:26]  Yes.
[01:16:26]  Why would you be working on 8G if you haven't gotten 6G finished yet?
[01:16:31]  Or five, really?
[01:16:32]  Really?
[01:16:33]  Yeah.
[01:16:34]  Who gives a shit?
[01:16:36]  It's all just like, listen to that and think for one fucking second.
[01:16:40]  That's on the level of they want Globalists want to bring back gladiator games to decrease the population.
[01:16:46]  Fuck out of here.
[01:16:47]  I like that.
[01:16:48]  Get the fuck out of here with your Johnny Depp movie.
[01:16:51]  As we learned from Transcendence starring Johnny Depp, right?
[01:16:55]  I found that Johnny Depp DVD in the WikiLeaks.
[01:16:58]  Yeah.
[01:16:58]  The fuck out of here.
[01:17:00]  So anyway, Alex has a guest that's not Steve Pieczenik.
[01:17:03]  Yeah.
[01:17:03]  And it's also not Glenn Danzig, but he was a lead singer of the Misfits.
[01:17:09]  Oh, okay.
[01:17:09]  Well, a guy named Michael Graves, who is the later singer of the Misfits when they came back.
[01:17:17]  And I regret to inform you that this guy is very dumb.
[01:17:21]  He's not as smart as Danzig.
[01:17:23]  I don't know.
[01:17:23]  I've never heard Danzig on Infowars.
[01:17:25]  That's true.
[01:17:26]  So I can't really judge.
[01:17:28]  From what I know about Danzig, he's actually a pretty cool fucking dude.
[01:17:31]  I don't know enough to say.
[01:17:32]  I like the name Danzig.
[01:17:34]  It's great.
[01:17:34]  For sure.
[01:17:36]  But this guy is listening to him was tough.
[01:17:41]  Right.
[01:17:42]  So to prepare for today, and I went to Infowars.com, and there's the report up about Roger Stone talking about Steve Bannon and yourself.
[01:17:55]  And he references and talks about Miles Kwok, who is this Chinese national who China's looking to expedite back to China for his crimes.
[01:18:10]  And that ties together Steve Bannon and how Steve Bannon Was basically infiltrating the Trump campaign for his own gain.
[01:18:22]  And then I started to think about the chessboard.
[01:18:28]  This is legitimately what got Roger Stone sued.
[01:18:31]  Like, he's literally just talking about these conspiracy theories about Miles Kwok that got Roger Stone sued.
[01:18:38]  Wow.
[01:18:38]  Hopefully, Michael Graves doesn't now get sued.
[01:18:41]  Man, I mean, he was also talking about them in a manner of taking his sweet fucking time about it as well.
[01:18:47]  He was.
[01:18:48]  That is a long, and I, obviously, I have no issue with stuttering at all, but man, that was stupid shit.
[01:18:56]  It's very dumb.
[01:18:56]  The thoughts are very stupid.
[01:18:59]  Like, I was preparing for this episode, and so I watched something that got Roger sued, and he had to retract.
[01:19:05]  So the only reason to watch that is with that context of the interesting element of it is he got sued.
[01:19:13]  Yeah, like look for signs of awareness that he's lying because he is.
[01:19:18]  That is so funny.
[01:19:19]  That is so funny that you're coming on the show and you're coming in pretty.
[01:19:25]  It seems like he's coming in fairly blank.
[01:19:27]  Like, he's not a regular InfoWars listener.
[01:19:29]  So he just.
[01:19:30]  He is?
[01:19:31]  Oh, okay.
[01:19:32]  Yeah.
[01:19:32]  He actually last year got kicked off a festival because he had made some social media posts supporting Alex Jones really aggressively about white genocide fury.
[01:19:43]  Sure, sure, sure.
[01:19:44]  Yeah, so he, no, he's a big InfoWars.
[01:19:46]  So the Misfits turned into Nazi punks?
[01:19:48]  He's not in the Misfits anymore.
[01:19:51]  Okay, good.
[01:19:52]  Because he is a Nazi.
[01:19:54]  I don't know exactly why.
[01:19:55]  I 100% didn't care to look into his trajectory or anything, but I did find a story about him getting kicked off this festival.
[01:20:02]  That's hilarious.
[01:20:03]  See, now I imagine it in my head is he's coming on the show and they're like, hey, it's this guy from the Misfits.
[01:20:09]  And he just happens to listen to one episode to prepare to go on the show.
[01:20:14]  And he just happens to remember the one part that is the only part of that episode that is literally a crime.
[01:20:20]  Nope.
[01:20:21]  He's a fan and he still made that mistake.
[01:20:23]  He still went to the crime.
[01:20:24]  Okay.
[01:20:24]  Well, that's one of the problems with Alex's rhetoric is that, like, in InfoWars world, Roger Stone didn't get sued for this.
[01:20:33]  That's true.
[01:20:34]  That is true.
[01:20:35]  So why would the audience get it?
[01:20:36]  They don't know.
[01:20:37]  Yeah.
[01:20:38]  They don't know.
[01:20:40]  Oh, what?
[01:20:41]  Did they read it in the fucking Wall Street Journal?
[01:20:43]  No, they did not.
[01:20:44]  Info Wars post an article about Roger Stone having to admit that he peddled lies.
[01:20:48]  Uh-uh.
[01:20:49]  Nope.
[01:20:50]  So anyway, this guy, again, this Misfit singer, very stupid.
[01:20:54]  And so they start talking about the lawyer for the alleged whistleblower, C.R. O'Malla.
[01:21:00]  And this is kind of a thing that Alex has been going on this entire show.
[01:21:04]  But I think this is an okay articulation of it.
[01:21:08]  Everything that is on the chessboard, and I went down the rabbit hole starting with Mark Zayd, who's the whistleblower's lawyer.
[01:21:18]  This guy that has pictures of himself at Disney World and is clearly linked to some sort of child.
[01:21:26]  He's a total rabazoid.
[01:21:27]  Have you seen the latest thing?
[01:21:28]  100% where he says I represent pedophiles.
[01:21:31]  Security clearances.
[01:21:33]  And it's still up on Twitter for everybody to see.
[01:21:36]  He's flaunting it.
[01:21:37]  So this guy, Mark Zaid, is the lawyer for the whistleblower who made the complaints against Trump.
[01:21:43]  For most of the show, Alex has been peppering in references to him being a pedophile based on a tweet where he says that he has gotten security clearances for people who have child porn issues.
[01:21:53]  Alex, and now the former lead singer of the Misfits seem to think that he's just bragging, but they don't take into account that that's not just something he tweeted.
[01:22:01]  It's a reply to another tweet.
[01:22:03]  The original tweet is from Slate.
[01:22:07]  It's a link to an article about how Rob Porter, former Trump White House staff secretary, was able to get security clearance even though he'd been accused of domestic violence by both of his ex-wives.
[01:22:18]  In context, it's clear that Zayd's comment is about how a lot of things don't actually preclude people from receiving security clearances.
[01:22:24]  It seems more like a you think that's bad kind of comment more than anything else.
[01:22:29]  So they're twisting that.
[01:22:31]  So another thing that Alex points to is a tweet that Zayd made from August 29th, 2019.
[01:22:37]  And Alex is claiming that it's him bragging about knowing Jeffrey Epstein.
[01:22:41]  The tweet is a link to an article with the headline, quote, Jeffrey Epstein's little-known lawyer lands in the spotlight.
[01:22:48]  Zayd commented, not sure if being a little-known lawyer is a good thing or bad, though associated with Epstein, probably a good thing.
[01:22:57]  This is being taken to mean that Zayd is saying that associating with Epstein is a good thing.
[01:23:01]  That's what Alex is saying, which is a terrible reading of the tweet.
[01:23:04]  No.
[01:23:05]  He's saying that for this lawyer, if he's associated with Epstein, being little-known is a good thing.
[01:23:10]  That article in the Wall Street Journal is not about Zayd.
[01:23:14]  It's about another lawyer.
[01:23:15]  Yeah, I mean, there's a better sentence structure there, but Alex is willfully.
[01:23:21]  You know what?
[01:23:22]  Maybe he's not willfully misreading it.
[01:23:23]  Maybe he just is that incapable of reading it.
[01:23:26]  It's not a poorly constructed, it's very easy to follow if you're not a fucking idiot.
[01:23:32]  I know.
[01:23:32]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:23:34]  As for this guy taking pictures at Disney, who knows?
[01:23:37]  Maybe he's got a family.
[01:23:38]  I have no fucking idea.
[01:23:39]  I'm not going to sit here and tell you that this guy definitely isn't a major cog in the globalist blood-drinking child ring, but I am going to say that the evidence being presented here is not what I would call convincing.
[01:23:50]  I really expect more from the non-Danzig lead singer of the Mistance.
[01:23:54]  Yeah.
[01:23:55]  Also, the bigger picture problem exists here with Alex's narrative surrounding pedophiles in general.
[01:24:02]  I generally try not to cover this side of Alex's rhetoric too much because I feel even deconstruction of it is toxic.
[01:24:08]  And I really, really hate what he does about this sort of topic.
[01:24:12]  However, I need to point out one gigantic problem with his beliefs.
[01:24:17]  We know that Alex believes that there's a gigantic globalist blackmail ring where the evil blood-drinking globalists keep their politicians and media figures in line with threats of revealing that they're pedophiles.
[01:24:27]  We also know that Alex believes that the globalists are trying to normalize pedophilia, which he screams about all the time.
[01:24:33]  From lies about Nambla being a UN organization to screaming about articles in Salon to lies about the LGBTQ community adding a P to his disgusting rhetoric surrounding Drag Queen story time.
[01:24:45]  It's very, very constant as a thread of his rhetoric that they're trying to normalize pedophilia.
[01:24:52]  Now, the problem with these things are that they both cannot be true at the same time.
[01:24:57]  If the globalists use pedophile blackmail to maintain their power, the last thing that they would ever do is try to normalize pedophilia.
[01:25:05]  The second they achieve normalization, they instantly lose literally all control they ever have had over politics, the media, or the economy.
[01:25:13]  To put it bluntly, these two things are in direct opposition, and no evil organization would ever pursue both.
[01:25:20]  But you know what kind would?
[01:25:21]  You know what kind of organization would?
[01:25:22]  A fictitious one?
[01:25:23]  Yeah, a one that Alex is just making up as he goes along.
[01:25:25]  Yeah, that one would do that.
[01:25:27]  I can guarantee you that that's so offensive.
[01:25:30]  Yeah.
[01:25:31]  That's so stupid.
[01:25:32]  Yeah.
[01:25:33]  Fuck this guy.
[01:25:34]  And fuck the Misfits, just by extension.
[01:25:36]  Yeah.
[01:25:37]  Danzig is still pretty cool, though.
[01:25:38]  I'm not going to say either way.
[01:25:41]  This is when I find out that somebody's going to, now I'm going to get a tweet and it's going to be like, Danzig murdered.
[01:25:45]  And I'm like, God damn it.
[01:25:47]  So the Misfits lead singer guy has some other stupid thoughts.
[01:25:51]  And he's also connected to the James Madison Project.
[01:25:54]  He's talking about the whistleblowers lawyers, though.
[01:25:58]  It's also on the board of the James Madison Project.
[01:26:01]  That's connected to John Podesta, which is connected to the Center for American Progress, which is connected to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is connected to the ACLU funded by George Soros.
[01:26:14]  We got him.
[01:26:16]  And that's what the ACLU will not defend free speech.
[01:26:18]  They got bought.
[01:26:18]  That's not true.
[01:26:19]  But this is a fun game.
[01:26:21]  We got him.
[01:26:21]  This is a fun game, so I want to play it.
[01:26:23]  So this lawyer, right?
[01:26:24]  He's involved with the James Madison Project.
[01:26:27]  A guy named David Kahn is also one of the board members of the James Madison Project.
[01:26:31]  Kahn started a journal called Cryptologia, which is put out by Rutledge Publishing, which was founded by George Rutledge, who distributed many of the writings of Benjamin Disraeli, who is seen as the founder of British conservatism, which has led us to Boris Johnson.
[01:26:46]  So he must clearly be in on the conspiracy.
[01:26:49]  I wish I could refute you, but that checks out.
[01:26:52]  I feel like that one got away from me a little bit, so I want to try again.
[01:26:55]  You got real excited.
[01:26:56]  I feel like I also maybe lost the thread.
[01:26:58]  So I'm going to try again.
[01:26:58]  I don't know why Benjamin Disraeli.
[01:27:00]  Never mind.
[01:27:01]  You need a better connection between Disraeli and Johnson.
[01:27:04]  All right, that's all I'm saying.
[01:27:05]  So another board member is Thomas Sussman, who is a partner at the law firm Ropes and Gray.
[01:27:10]  You know who else was a partner at Ropes and Gray?
[01:27:13]  Jane Willis, who was also a member of the famous MIT blackjack team, whose story was turned into that movie 21, which starred Jim Sturgis, who was also in the movie Cloud Atlas, which Soros probably had something to do with.
[01:27:26]  Seems like a globalist movie.
[01:27:27]  Oh, man.
[01:27:28]  Come on.
[01:27:29]  You got to end these better.
[01:27:30]  You got to end these better than George Soros probably had something to do with Cloud Atlas.
[01:27:36]  You just wanted to talk about Cloud Atlas.
[01:27:38]  You may love that movie.
[01:27:40]  This is stupid shit.
[01:27:41]  And again, I expect more from my rock band Lead Singers.
[01:27:44]  I also regret to inform you, this interview does not get better.
[01:27:47]  I didn't imagine.
[01:27:48]  This is the level of shit that's being brought to the table.
[01:27:50]  It's the highest.
[01:27:50]  This six degrees of Soros game that he's deciding to play.
[01:27:53]  Yeah, see, I don't expect more from my lead singers, but I do expect more from people who sound like Eddie Bravo.
[01:28:02]  And man, gotta stop it, man.
[01:28:04]  So this is pretty funny because Alex is like, hey, I got the lead singer here, guy from the Misfits in.
[01:28:11]  I'm going to come back from break with a Misfits track.
[01:28:16]  Hollywood!
[01:28:17]  It's definitely Hollywood Babylon, and now Hollywood is collapsing.

=== Space Wars and Political Assassinations (10:19) ===

[01:28:21]  You're just getting into how horrible the Pacific Northwest is, how bad L.A. is.
[01:28:24]  That's a Danzig era.
[01:28:26]  Misfits song.
[01:28:28]  I feel like it's a little insulting.
[01:28:30]  He sings it.
[01:28:30]  Yeah, but it's a reminder that he's not dancing.
[01:28:33]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:28:34]  He is definitely not dancing.
[01:28:36]  Did he write anything?
[01:28:37]  He did not help write songs.
[01:28:38]  There's no way.
[01:28:39]  This guy?
[01:28:39]  Yeah.
[01:28:40]  Maybe for some of their like in that era of albums.
[01:28:43]  Yeah, probably.
[01:28:44]  Fair enough.
[01:28:44]  So anyway, you know, this guy, of course, hates Hillary Clinton.
[01:28:50]  And here you go.
[01:28:52]  They need to discredit the Liberty Movement.
[01:28:55]  Remember what Hillary Clinton said.
[01:28:57]  Remember what she called us.
[01:28:59]  Irredeemable.
[01:29:01]  Deplorables.
[01:29:02]  When you look up irredeemable, the definition of irredeemable is not.
[01:29:06]  She said that, too.
[01:29:07]  You're right.
[01:29:08]  And I actually, and I looked it up.
[01:29:10]  It means worthless crap.
[01:29:11]  No value.
[01:29:12]  Can't fix it.
[01:29:12]  Get rid of it.
[01:29:13]  Deserving strong condemnation, shockingly bad in quality.
[01:29:17]  We were talking about Auschwitz.
[01:29:18]  We were talking about camps before.
[01:29:21]  That was signaling to us what's going to happen when somebody like Hillary Clinton and her minions get control when they cede control back and push what they are trying to do.
[01:29:38]  It really is camps.
[01:29:40]  And it really is coming to get us.
[01:29:43]  Because of the word irredeemable?
[01:29:45]  I guess.
[01:29:46]  Okay.
[01:29:46]  So we're back to FEMA camps.
[01:29:49]  We're back to that.
[01:29:50]  So congratulations.
[01:29:51]  We've made a lap.
[01:29:52]  And this guy is still back on that.
[01:29:54]  So I'm thrilled for him.
[01:29:55]  Yeah, he didn't get the earlier shows where Alex was on board with FEMA camps, right?
[01:30:01]  Well, for people who are coming from Central and South America, yes.
[01:30:04]  Right.
[01:30:04]  For non-white people, yes.
[01:30:06]  Oh, okay.
[01:30:06]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:30:06]  Gotcha, gotcha.
[01:30:07]  Right is actually good.
[01:30:09]  It is good.
[01:30:10]  Yes.
[01:30:10]  But only not if FEMA is doing it to white conservative gun owners.
[01:30:14]  It's good for people who were born a couple miles away from the border.
[01:30:20]  Wow, you know that.
[01:30:20]  You know how many miles it takes to be okay with a FEMA camp?
[01:30:24]  Human rights are arbitrary.
[01:30:26]  They are.
[01:30:26]  Based on borders that are imaginary.
[01:30:29]  So this guy, this Misfits lead singer, he has read a lot about World War II.
[01:30:34]  Oh, no, he's not allowed to.
[01:30:36]  Which is a good start to a sentence, but where it goes is not.
[01:30:40]  This guy should not be allowed to read about World War II.
[01:30:43]  I read a lot about World War II.
[01:30:46]  I've read a lot about the death camps.
[01:30:49]  And one of the things that I find when you read about that history, when you read about the people that were involved in that, it's always the same thing.
[01:30:58]  The people in these communities, in the Jewish communities that were sort of far removed from it, were always said, ah, well, you know, we heard about it and we didn't really think it was a big deal.
[01:31:07]  And then it got a little bit worse.
[01:31:09]  And then we got concerned.
[01:31:10]  Next thing you know, they were on a train headed to a death camp.
[01:31:14]  Because George Soros was 14, but looked even younger.
[01:31:19]  He was called a bloodhound.
[01:31:20]  He was able to find people hiding, but he'd rat them out.
[01:31:22]  And he says that was the happiest time in his life, right?
[01:31:26]  The happiest time in his life.
[01:31:27]  And what a villain.
[01:31:28]  And then the ADL calls him a Holocaust survivor.
[01:31:30]  I have, like, it's perhaps the most open and shut case for defamation against for Alex related to his Soros shit.
[01:31:41]  Yep.
[01:31:41]  The fact that he's now escalated this from his original rhetoric, which was just this vague ideas about he's a Nazi collaborator.
[01:31:49]  Now he's turned it into very consistently saying that he would actually, he was a bloodhound and he would go around and hunt out Jews and report them.
[01:31:57]  The fact that he says this on his own show and would go on Joe Rogan's show and say, when he gets pushback, when Rogan says, that's not true, that's not what this interview that he did says.
[01:32:10]  When Alex says on Rogan's show, it's an open question, that is proof of malice.
[01:32:15]  Yep.
[01:32:16]  That is proof of actual.
[01:32:18]  100%.
[01:32:18]  So if George Soros wanted to destroy Alex, he has him anytime he wants to.
[01:32:23]  Please, please do it.
[01:32:26]  I think that this is one of the examples of the benevolence of Alex's enemies.
[01:32:31]  Yeah.
[01:32:32]  That they don't, well, I mean, it's not benevolence to the rest of the world, but towards Alex, he is living on borrowed time.
[01:32:41]  And that time has somehow been 25 fucking years, you know?
[01:32:44]  Yeah, I mean, before he went on Rogan's show, I think it would be very difficult to demonstrate that he doesn't or that he knows that what he's saying is shit.
[01:32:51]  Right.
[01:32:52]  Like the fact, like you kind of have to prove that someone knows what they're saying isn't true.
[01:32:56]  Right.
[01:32:57]  With public figures, which George Soros definitely would be.
[01:33:00]  Yes.
[01:33:01]  You'd have to reach that standard.
[01:33:03]  And I think that that standard is completely met.
[01:33:07]  So anyway, I hope George Soros doesn't decide to do that, Alex.
[01:33:11]  That's, you are fucked.
[01:33:15]  I think Barnes listens to this and tomorrow he's just going to be like, ooh, Cha Ching.
[01:33:23]  Cha Ching, I'm going to own him for wars.
[01:33:26]  Yeah.
[01:33:27]  So that's the end of the 11th stuff because it's mostly him just talking to this Misfits guy more, and he is very dumb, and it's very boring.
[01:33:33]  Yeah.
[01:33:34]  So we have a little bit here from the 12th because I was listening because I wanted to see if Steve was going to come on because that is very relevant to my interests.
[01:33:41]  Yeah, there's no way we could have listened to this episode today and then been like, well, we'll try and see if he comes back on.
[01:33:47]  Well, I mean, we're recording this on the 12th, so it was very difficult for me to listen to all of this and then turn around and have an episode.
[01:33:54]  But I would have done it if Steve was on, and apparently I have to, even if Steve's not.
[01:33:58]  But most of it I probably would have just ignored because it's all just gun fears.
[01:34:02]  It's just gun paranoia.
[01:34:04]  But Alex said some things I was like, yeah, I got to cut a clip of that.
[01:34:08]  Because Alex, I think that he's saying that there's space wars going on.
[01:34:12]  Okay.
[01:34:12]  Most people just can't handle it.
[01:34:15]  I have seen past the veil.
[01:34:17]  The globalists know that too.
[01:34:18]  I've seen really far.
[01:34:20]  And I've seen things that are, let's just say, interesting.
[01:34:24]  And I can tell you that this level of conflict is only the surface.
[01:34:29]  And the conflict is a lot bigger than we even know.
[01:34:34]  And a lot more serious.
[01:34:35]  Let's just say the universe is a very interesting place.
[01:34:37]  And there are some big wars going on, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:34:41]  So we need to get off this rock and go to the next level because God needs us.
[01:34:47]  And you need to understand that.
[01:34:49]  That doesn't seem that different from Project Camelot shit to me.
[01:34:52]  That sounds like he's saying that there's space wars going on.
[01:34:57]  I think God needs us in the space wars.
[01:34:59]  I think he is literally saying that there are wars going on in space.
[01:35:06]  there are space wars and he's not doing any.
[01:35:09]  He's, he said, God needs us, but this isn't, this isn't him talking about like heaven and hell wars.
[01:35:16]  This is him being like, we need to get off this rock, the planet, in order to join wars in space, the universe.
[01:35:25]  So I'm going to go with, he believes that his fictitious enemies know that he has pierced the veil of human consciousness and is capable of, let's say, viewing remotely wars happening around the universe.
[01:35:42]  And that they are on the side that is bad in the space wars, much like the reptilians and rabbitoids.
[01:35:50]  Yes.
[01:35:51]  Whereas Alex knows that we have raptor allies in space to help out.
[01:35:56]  We need to get off this planet so we can help the raptors.
[01:35:58]  And God is involved.
[01:36:00]  It's not that different.
[01:36:01]  Nope.
[01:36:02]  And one of his callers, I am sure, has a telescope.
[01:36:05]  I guarantee it.
[01:36:06]  I believe that too.
[01:36:07]  So just after that, after he's talking a little bit about space wars, he talks to a caller.
[01:36:13]  And this guy, this guy's fucked up.
[01:36:17]  What else do you think we should do?
[01:36:18]  I mean, because yes, the war is now, and these people are relentless because it's a spiritual fight.
[01:36:24]  It is a spiritual battle.
[01:36:26]  And the reason why is because good Christian people have permitted a lot of things to happen.
[01:36:32]  By controlling the language, they can control what you think.
[01:36:35]  By controlling your thoughts, they can control your actions because thought precedes action, and it keeps you in a very controllable state.
[01:36:43]  And then whatever you allow to happen, there was a time in history when Christians control this arena so powerfully that cockroaches like these people had to live in the shadows and do their business in the shadows and under the cover of darkness.
[01:36:56]  Now it is in plain sight.
[01:36:58]  It is in daylight.
[01:36:59]  And there is not enough good Christians that are calling them exactly what they are, which are demons.
[01:37:04]  And they need to be hunted, found, and politically assassinated is what they need to be.
[01:37:11]  Absolutely, brother.
[01:37:13]  We're going to do this new caller show soon.
[01:37:14]  Get his name and number.
[01:37:15]  That's another all these callers should be on the show.
[01:37:17]  We're going to start more live shows.
[01:37:18]  They're caller-driven.
[01:37:20]  I'm trying to get to more calls here on there, as you've been hearing, and you guys are awesome.
[01:37:22]  Thank you.
[01:37:23]  So this caller is expressing political assassinations are needed for our rivals who are demons, and they've been allowed to run around because Christians aren't in control strongly enough anymore.
[01:37:35]  And Alex's response to that is the guy who's on 24-7.
[01:37:44]  I mean, I also think that there's probably, I mean, there's really no difference, but there is a linguistic difference between these people need to be assassinated politically and politically assassinated.
[01:37:55]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:37:57]  There's a contextual difference between those two things that I think makes what this guy's saying, I think he's trying to play Alex's little verbal game, but what he's saying is incredibly scary.
[01:38:08]  Yeah.
[01:38:09]  These people are so fucked up.
[01:38:11]  I cannot engage with anybody who starts a sentence, but there was a time.
[01:38:15]  Oh.
[01:38:15]  Just like, fuck you.
[01:38:17]  Give me specifics or go fuck yourself.
[01:38:20]  So Alex does have a guest on the 12th, and it was disappointing because it wasn't Steve Pieczenik, but it was the Misfits lead singer again.

=== False Flagging Debunked (12:45) ===

[01:38:28]  What?
[01:38:29]  Yeah.
[01:38:29]  No.
[01:38:30]  He's in Austin for a little bit.
[01:38:31]  Oh, we don't have any clips of it because he's so.
[01:38:33]  Okay.
[01:38:33]  Yeah, that's awful.
[01:38:34]  But Alex has another guest.
[01:38:36]  And it's Stuart Rhodes of the Oathkeepers.
[01:38:38]  Oh, who is going to be the next lead singer of the Mitzfits?
[01:38:42]  Could be.
[01:38:42]  Could be.
[01:38:43]  So in his appearance, Stuart is really expressing some ideas that are going to lead towards violence, quite honestly.
[01:38:52]  He expresses here that Trump was the last peaceful option.
[01:38:56]  No.
[01:38:57]  He was a firewall that we threw up as a last effort to try to do this peacefully.
[01:39:02]  We threw it up as a firewall and voted for Trump and put him in office, but they can't let that play out.
[01:39:07]  They've got to remove him through whatever means necessary.
[01:39:09]  And they're about to use the 25th Amendment.
[01:39:11]  You saw that, where psychiatrists are now asking to testify in front of the house.
[01:39:16]  By the way, you're supposed to lose your license right away under the Goldwater rule if you diagnose someone from afar.
[01:39:23]  Right.
[01:39:24]  They haven't even examined him and interviewed him or anything.
[01:39:26]  It's just political warfare.
[01:39:28]  But, you know, let's just know that we've done all we can.
[01:39:30]  We're abdicated in some ways from having any restraint once they do this.
[01:39:35]  Well, they're going to stage terror attacks, though, to make any physical response look improper.
[01:39:40]  Let's wargame this when we come back.
[01:39:42]  So what Stewart said there at the end was that, well, I mean, you know, we've done everything we can, so we can not feel bad about having no restraint with our violence.
[01:39:51]  Yep.
[01:39:52]  But that's been their point all along.
[01:39:54]  Yeah.
[01:39:55]  Like, this isn't new.
[01:39:56]  This is what they were saying in 2013, too.
[01:39:59]  Like, they've always been right on the cusp of doing some violence.
[01:40:03]  And I don't know if that makes me think that it's less likely that these people will do anything or more likely because eventually the damn's got to break.
[01:40:12]  Right.
[01:40:13]  I mean, you know, it's not like people who are listening to this didn't end up going out and doing things or quote-unquote lone wolf actors.
[01:40:22]  Yeah.
[01:40:24]  I don't know what I think, but I know that this sort of thing is not healthy.
[01:40:28]  I mean, the thing that I'm getting so much, because it ties back into so many of these guys have that like, well, if we're going to do it, we better do it while Trump's in office.
[01:40:39]  He's said that before.
[01:40:41]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:40:42]  Like that idea is that there's not going to be a civil war.
[01:40:47]  If there's going to be a civil anything, it's going to be a civil fucking slaughter.
[01:40:52]  And the difference is going to be if Trump is in the White House and we start that slaughter, then maybe Trump will let us get away with it and give us our fucking cover for it.
[01:41:01]  Or if Trump's not in office, then we're going to be an insurgency and we're the ones who are going to get fucked up.
[01:41:08]  Yeah.
[01:41:09]  So that's why there'll be good people on both sides if Trump's in office.
[01:41:12]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:41:13]  So at the end of that last clip, Stewart was saying fucked up things about like, hey, you know, we're free to commit violence.
[01:41:21]  We've done everything we can.
[01:41:23]  And Alex brings up, they're going to pull false flags to make our violence look bad or something.
[01:41:28]  Meaning we're going to do that.
[01:41:30]  Right.
[01:41:31]  And when he gets back from break, Alex says something that I find deeply disturbing.
[01:41:36]  Well, obviously a conservative would never go on a Walmart and shoot innocent white, black, Hispanic people.
[01:41:41]  Nobody would go in a nightclub and do it.
[01:41:42]  That's all anti-fa-devil worshipers.
[01:41:44]  That's like Adam Landsa.
[01:41:45]  They're always pro-Zakhead devil worshiper, you know, types.
[01:41:50]  Patriots, and I'm not saying do this, would go after globalists and people.
[01:41:55]  So just notice when the terror attacks come, they already have.
[01:41:58]  They're going to be innocent people, and it's not us.
[01:42:01]  This is being staged.
[01:42:02]  Yes.
[01:42:04]  What Alex is doing here is trying to pull off some kind of bizarre no-true Scotsman fallacy to argue that any instance of violence not perpetrated against globalists can't possibly be patriots and conservatives and therefore must be anti-fascists false flagging the patriots.
[01:42:20]  The way this basic fallacy works is to serve as a protection of a group's purity.
[01:42:25]  Alex would find a story about, let's say, a right-wing individual killing a bunch of innocent civilians.
[01:42:31]  And his response would be, no true conservative would do something like that.
[01:42:34]  So he would conclude that this person wasn't really a conservative.
[01:42:37]  That's the basic version, where the function is to maintain the image of what a conservative is in his mind, despite evidence that the group includes people who fall short of the definition.
[01:42:47]  People do this sort of thing all the time.
[01:42:49]  And on some level, it's part of human instinct to protect our own identities as being part of a group.
[01:42:53]  It's hard to reconcile that you might be a member of a group that also includes people who you find morally repulsive.
[01:42:59]  But that's sometimes the case.
[01:43:02]  This line of fallacious thinking is how a lot of people ignore that internal conflict.
[01:43:07]  But what Alex is doing is taking the bad thinking that he's engaging in one step further than that.
[01:43:13]  He's determined that because no true conservative or patriot would kill civilians, then this someone who does isn't a conservative.
[01:43:20]  That's already a complete disaster from a logic perspective.
[01:43:23]  But then he insists that because this person is not a conservative, they must be an anti-fascist pretending to be a conservative to demonize the patriots.
[01:43:32]  It's really hard for me to put this any other way than to say that this is not adult mental processing.
[01:43:37]  This is bad.
[01:43:38]  This is really, really bad thinking.
[01:43:41]  Do you know what the other part of that is?
[01:43:44]  Okay.
[01:43:45]  So prove, so I've proven to you that it was a conservative.
[01:43:49]  You have to agree with it.
[01:43:50]  Well, do you know who he killed?
[01:43:51]  A globalist, so it doesn't matter.
[01:43:53]  Well, now here's the issue.
[01:43:55]  So the much simpler reality is that there are absolutely conservatives and right-wingers who plan and carry out attacks on civilians.
[01:44:02]  These are real events with real victims and real loved ones whose pain Alex doesn't give a fuck about because it threatens the purity of his own self-image.
[01:44:09]  In his desperation to glorify his political side, he behaves in callous ways that belie the fact that his side is nowhere near as pure as he likes to pretend.
[01:44:18]  But since he's saying that any real conservative would target globalists, then I guess he's taking ownership of Caesar Sayok, the MAGA bomber who sent bombs to the Clintons and George Soros, among other globalist targets.
[01:44:31]  If he's saying that attacks against civilians are just anti-fascists false flagging the patriots and any real conservative patriot would target the globalists, then surely that one was real.
[01:44:40]  Whoops.
[01:44:41]  Nope.
[01:44:42]  Turns out Alex said that was a false flag too.
[01:44:44]  Gotcha.
[01:44:45]  Alex's worldview and narratives are childish constructions he's propped up in order to make sure that he never has to feel the impact of the rhetoric that he puts into the world.
[01:44:53]  And he's too much of a coward to even stay internally consistent and play by the rules that he's made up for himself.
[01:44:59]  If it's somebody who doesn't fit his definition of what a patriot would do, it's an anti-fascist false flagging the patriots.
[01:45:04]  And if it's somebody who does, then hey, it's the globalists false flagging themselves in order to get pity.
[01:45:09]  Exactly.
[01:45:10]  Fuck you, man.
[01:45:11]  Your heroes are terrorists, Alex.
[01:45:13]  Yeah.
[01:45:13]  Just admit it.
[01:45:14]  Yeah.
[01:45:15]  So in order to reinforce his idea that these shootings are just anti-fascists who are coming out there and false flagging, he brings up the Dayton shooting.
[01:45:25]  And I find his take on it's really boring.
[01:45:29]  And we've heard it.
[01:45:29]  Like, they tried to cover up online.
[01:45:32]  But Stewart, his reaction to this, I think, is telling.
[01:45:36]  It's incredible how they covered up the Texas attack that he was anti-fo-leftist.
[01:45:40]  And that was confirmed.
[01:45:41]  Do they put up on his site?
[01:45:42]  That should be a criminal investigation.
[01:45:44]  Who took that down?
[01:45:44]  Who put that up?
[01:45:45]  Who protected him?
[01:45:47]  Good question.
[01:45:48]  Don't know.
[01:45:50]  That, I'm sorry, I said Dayton.
[01:45:52]  I meant the El Paso shoot.
[01:45:53]  But that response I find to be really interesting.
[01:45:57]  Even the court doesn't want this shit.
[01:45:58]  Oh, no.
[01:45:59]  He doesn't want to be involved in this.
[01:46:01]  He's just there to talk about gun paranoia.
[01:46:03]  He doesn't want to get that and saying that it's okay for them to wantonly murder their political enemies.
[01:46:09]  Right.
[01:46:09]  But he does both.
[01:46:11]  I think he has a line, though.
[01:46:12]  And as we saw in 2013, when Alex was trying to say that those people in the pictures that he found on 4chan at the Boston Marathon were secretly SEALs, Stuart said, I don't, I can't say that based on just whatever they're wearing.
[01:46:25]  I'm not going to go along with this.
[01:46:27]  I feel a very similar thing here.
[01:46:28]  He has a line of like, nah.
[01:46:30]  Yeah.
[01:46:30]  And whatever you're doing, I just can't.
[01:46:32]  Alex wants him to get involved because he's not doing it.
[01:46:36]  So that's about the end of anything with real substance on this episode.
[01:46:40]  But I have a couple last clips.
[01:46:42]  And one of them is Alex gets a caller who asks him about something very specific.
[01:46:47]  And I think that this clip is only important as a demonstration of how full of shit Alex is.
[01:46:53]  Have you ever heard of Carl Miller?
[01:46:55]  He was a Vietnam vet.
[01:46:57]  He teaches about the Constitution.
[01:46:59]  Yes.
[01:47:00]  He has some videos.
[01:47:02]  Anyway, one of them is about the writ of Cuo Warianto.
[01:47:06]  Anybody that any judge that tries to violate any right that you have, the Second Amendment, any of them, anybody can file a writ of Cuo Warianto against that judge and anybody connected with him that's trying to do that.
[01:47:21]  Have you heard of this thing?
[01:47:24]  So look.
[01:47:24]  Well, there we go, guys.
[01:47:26]  This is sovereign citizen bullshit.
[01:47:27]  I looked this up.
[01:47:28]  Who cares?
[01:47:29]  But what's interesting is this guy asks, have you heard of this Carl Miller guy?
[01:47:33]  He talks about the Constitution.
[01:47:35]  Yes, absolutely.
[01:47:36]  Then he says a couple more details.
[01:47:38]  I have no idea what you're talking about.
[01:47:39]  That's Alex's knee-jerk reaction.
[01:47:42]  Anytime anybody asks him, Do you know about this thing?
[01:47:44]  You bet I do.
[01:47:45]  I'm an expert on everything.
[01:47:46]  I know everything.
[01:47:47]  That's a really good demonstration of him just lying directly and then realizing, like, oh, no, this is crazy shit.
[01:47:53]  I have no idea what it is.
[01:47:55]  And then this last one, Alex, he ends up playing a special report about how everybody is, they're all devils.
[01:48:01]  Everybody's devil worshipers.
[01:48:02]  Sure, sure.
[01:48:03]  All of his enemies are all demons.
[01:48:04]  Nah, we're in fighting wars in space, too.
[01:48:06]  And I just love the way it starts.
[01:48:08]  And so just to end this on a softer, lighter note than maybe Stuart Rhodes justifying political violence or one of Alex's callers calling for political assassinations.
[01:48:18]  Right.
[01:48:18]  Or Alex deciding Steve Pieczenik is totally cool.
[01:48:22]  Yeah, that's the worst of the three.
[01:48:24]  Here's just something straight up dumb.
[01:48:26]  There is a saying: no one knows who first coined it.
[01:48:30]  It's been around for thousands of years.
[01:48:32]  But it goes like this: the devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist.
[01:48:44]  Okay.
[01:48:45]  All right.
[01:48:47]  Are you fucking with me?
[01:48:49]  Nope.
[01:48:49]  Is he fucking with me?
[01:48:50]  Maybe.
[01:48:51]  He's fucking with me.
[01:48:52]  He's my beatrolling.
[01:48:53]  He has to be fucking with me.
[01:48:54]  I'm going to guarantee that Alex didn't look into this in any way, and he's just being a blowhard.
[01:48:59]  I also guarantee that he's just quoting the usual suspects and has no idea what that movie is referencing.
[01:49:05]  Generally, people attribute this precise formulation of the expression to Charles Baudelaire.
[01:49:11]  The line traces back to a short story he published in 1864.
[01:49:14]  But the vague idea expressed in the quote goes back a little farther than that.
[01:49:18]  In 1836, a Quaker preacher named John Wilkinson wrote, Quote, one of the artifices of Satan is to induce men to believe he doesn't exist.
[01:49:27]  Alex is definitely referencing the usual suspects, which was referencing Baudelaire.
[01:49:32]  But from there, the line is kind of broken.
[01:49:35]  Baudelaire was probably not referencing relatively obscure Quaker authors and was probably just writing with a creative poetic flourish of his own.
[01:49:44]  Whatever the case is here, that expression does not go back thousands of years.
[01:49:47]  That's completely fucking absurd.
[01:49:50]  So congrats.
[01:49:51]  Alex is just unreal.
[01:49:53]  There's a saying: no one knows who coined it.
[01:49:56]  It goes back.
[01:49:57]  He has to be fucking with me.
[01:49:58]  Yeah.
[01:50:00]  That's the best and only joke he has ever successfully told.
[01:50:05]  I think that there's to be a joke.
[01:50:07]  There's a thin line between fucking with you and being a blowhard, though.
[01:50:10]  Yeah.
[01:50:11]  And that line is something I'm not sure we'll ever be able to really clearly define.
[01:50:16]  God, if that is the most perfectly executed joke.
[01:50:20]  Whoever wrote that, maybe he didn't write it.
[01:50:23]  Maybe somebody is fucking with him.
[01:50:24]  It could be.
[01:50:25]  Oh, man, because that's so good.
[01:50:27]  So we get to the end of this, and I think I had to do this episode because there was some Steve Pieczenik nonsense in it.
[01:50:35]  There's a possibility.
[01:50:36]  And there's also some scary shit, some really dumb stuff.
[01:50:40]  And hopefully, if I can do anything to bring to light the fact that Alex is repurposing stuff that got Roger Stone sued, I'm very happy to do that because I hope there's some consequences.
[01:50:52]  Or at least to demonstrate that a lot of this whole new narrative about Fiona Hill and this whistleblower relies on.

=== Wacky Wednesday Talk (01:42) ===

[01:50:57]  As well as committing defamation against George Soros in a very clear manner, that also goes in there.
[01:51:02]  Yeah.
[01:51:04]  But yeah, this whole new narrative relies on this same information that did get Roger sued.
[01:51:09]  I think that's a really interesting piece of this puzzle that I don't know if anybody but us realizes.
[01:51:16]  So fun to be able to talk about that.
[01:51:18]  I know Alex doesn't realize it.
[01:51:20]  I missed doing a Wacky Wednesday thing, though.
[01:51:22]  I had some ideas.
[01:51:24]  Well, maybe we'll get it next week.
[01:51:27]  We got Johnny Depp for Transcendent.
[01:51:30]  This is basically a Wacky Wednesday.
[01:51:31]  Alex does space war.
[01:51:33]  Yeah, I guess it is.
[01:51:34]  He might as well have just talked about the Mandalorian for six hours.
[01:51:38]  Alex has graduated to Wacky Wednesday standards.
[01:51:41]  He really has, hasn't he?
[01:51:42]  Yeah, he might as well have talked about the Mandalorian, but strangely, he has not talked about Steve Miller's emails.
[01:51:48]  Yeah, well, hey now.
[01:51:50]  Hey now.
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