Today, Dan and Jordan dip back into the past to continue to explore Alex Jones' behavior in the weeks after Sandy Hook. In this installment, the gents learn that Alex's messed up feelings about racial birth rates is not a new area of interest. Also, Alex gets real wishy-washy about a potential extinction level event, and Dan becomes obsessed with repeat callers.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
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I'm a first-time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes that sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Have you ever read the Left Behind Novel series? | ||
| Yeah, I have. | ||
| Have you? | ||
| Well, I've read... | ||
| Like, how many did you read? | ||
| One or two of them. | ||
| I don't remember how many there are total. | ||
| I think there's like ten. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| It's like Harry Potter, but for pre and post trip. | ||
| I thought they were trash, even though I was in that community growing up, like the evangelical community. | ||
| I thought they were a little bit stupid. | ||
| And one thing that I thought was really great is that my dad is a religious studies professor. | ||
| And so I found this out later in life. | ||
| Because I was going through my dad's... | ||
| I wasn't going through their house, but I was in their house. | ||
| And I saw that, first of all, he had a copy of The Da Vinci Code. | ||
| I was like, Dad, what are you doing with that? | ||
| He's like, everyone told me I had to read it. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| I was like, alright, good, good, good. | ||
| And then I found a copy of Left Behind, not the book, I think it was like a copy of the DVD, but it was like this collector's edition type of thing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, and I was like, Dad, why the fuck do you have this? | ||
| You don't believe in this kind of garbage. | ||
| He's like, I don't know why I have that. | ||
| The company that made it apparently sent it to him. | ||
| No! | ||
| Hoping to get some sort of an endorsement. | ||
| They sent him swag? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In order for him to promote it? | ||
| Yeah, hoping to get a blurb or something, I think. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And he gave them a firm no thank you. | ||
| Which I thought was nice. | ||
| But I don't know why. | ||
| I think it's just the sort of thing that you just keep stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like books and things are really hard for my parents to get rid of. | ||
| Oh, I'm right there with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've had to force myself to not go to bookstores and only buy e-books. | ||
| Otherwise, I would be covered. | ||
| I'll tell you what will cure you of that. | ||
| House fire. | ||
| My house burned down years ago, and I had a giant library of books. | ||
| And I told myself I was going to rebuild it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then afterwards, I just realized, like... | ||
| Eh, these are kind of impermanent, you know, like, whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It takes up a lot of space, and it's not much more... | ||
| Selective of what books I keep around and what I just find PDFs of or what I read on Kindle. | ||
| That'll cure you. | ||
| But I still will say I do fetishize actual books. | ||
| There's something very fun about the turn of the page. | ||
| So beautiful. | ||
| The tactile feel. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Mouthfeel for a book. | ||
| Mouthfeel for a book. | ||
| So this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones and I've read a lot of books about his bullshit. | ||
| And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones and I've read zero books about his bullshit. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Jordan, so today we are going back to the past because I want to tell you this. | ||
| I wanted to stay in the present because I think it's an exciting time for Alex Jones right now in 2019. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I realized after our last episode that pretty much the next week is going to just be him talking about that Project Veritas Google video. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And I think I said about all I need to say about it on our last episode. | ||
| It's garbage filled with lies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So why spend more time going over him yelling about it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Not a lot of value there. | |
| So we're back in the past in our 2013 investigation, going over what Alex Jones did in the aftermath of Sandy Hook. | ||
| And today we're going over the 14th and 15th of February 2013. | ||
| If you'll recall on our last installment, Alex had started to turn a little bit of a corner on Christopher Dorner. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| I'm nothing is not a broadcaster. | ||
| laughter So Chris Dorner died. | ||
| He killed himself on the 12th. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so on the 13th, Alex started to compare the situation of his death to Waco, which is something that Alex is very... | ||
| Super cool with. | ||
| He loves the Branch Davidians and thinks that the government killed them. | ||
| And so him comparing Dorner to Waco is a big deal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's something that indicates a position on his part. | ||
| I'm very interested to see where things go on this installment. | ||
| And we will find out. | ||
| But first, gotta give a shout out to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show and make this whole thing possible. | ||
| Wonderful! | ||
| So first, Mike, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Mike. | ||
| Next, Nick, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Nick. | ||
| Next, Jamie Lee, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Jamie Lee. | ||
| Thank you very much, Miss True Lies. | ||
| Curtis. | ||
| Isn't that Britney Spears' sister's name, too? | ||
| Jamie Lee Spears? | ||
| Jamie Lynn, maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, I'd also like to say thank you to somebody who donated on Elevated Level, and we appreciate that very much. | ||
| So, Benjamin, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare... | ||
| Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Benjamin. | ||
| Thank you very much, Benjamin. | ||
| And finally, got to say thank you, a very special thank you to somebody who has very kindly designed a couple of new shirts that we have up for sale. | ||
| And we can't express our appreciation more. | ||
| Cannot thank him enough. | ||
| So, Lard Souza, we thank you so very much. | ||
| Everybody should check out Twitter at Lardist. | ||
| Lardist. | ||
| L-A-R-T-I-S-T. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not L-A artist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| L-A artist. | ||
| L-A art. | ||
| Lartist. | ||
| It's a good portmanteau, and we appreciate it. | ||
| That is also his website, too. | ||
| Lartist.com. | ||
| So there's, you know, in our spheres, there's only one way to express such gratitude that we have, and that is to declare you, Lar, a raptor princess. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
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I know how to read. | |
| I am out of control. | ||
| I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life. | ||
| I really haven't. | ||
| I bet you money there are few living black people. | ||
| That have been abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people. | ||
| Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses. | ||
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Complete studs. | |
| Welcome to McDonald's. | ||
| May I help you? | ||
| I'm Benny Sanders. | ||
| Thank you so much, Lar. | ||
| Thank you very much, Lar. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| You're incredible. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, we are here. | ||
| We are getting into it. | ||
| We're down to the nitty-gritty. | ||
| February 14th. | ||
| Valentine's Day? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do we know? | ||
| Neither of us are Valentine's Day supporters, I suppose. | ||
| It feels like it's Valentine's Day. | ||
| I don't know if that's one of those, like, Thanksgiving that's always on a specific day of the week. | ||
| Or if it's the number or the Thursday after the... | ||
| Honestly, don't know. | ||
| Could be Valentine's Day. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Is love in the air? | ||
| Love is in the air. | ||
| Alex has love for all the Christians of the world. | ||
| Now, where are Christians who believe in a second coming of Christ doing anything? | ||
| They're the most law-abiding, goody-two-shoes, neurotically good people out there. | ||
| On record. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| Disagree. | ||
| Oh, but we're the terrorists, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We're the people. | ||
| We're the people who work 17 hours a day. | ||
| We're the people that go to church. | ||
| We're the people that pay all the fake taxes and bow down to the system. | ||
| And we're the terrorists. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| What we are is the milk cow, the slave out in the barn, who they don't want getting uppity. | ||
| Zoo. | ||
| I would like to direct Alex's attention to the Christian identity movement. | ||
| That's a pretty good debunking of the... | ||
| Because what he's doing is trying to universalize, and that's not cool. | ||
| There's nothing necessarily terroristic about Christianity or anything like that, but to say that that group doesn't include some is duplicitous. | ||
| Well, and furthermore, what he just described are the things that somebody says right before they become a terrorist. | ||
| You know, like, we're working 17 hours a day. | ||
| We're fighting all of these fights. | ||
| We're paying these fake taxes. | ||
| We need to stop this by, and then... | ||
| Bombing a federal building. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like all the people he pretends were set up. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So this is a real slow start to this 14th, this February 14th episode. | ||
| And I want to... | ||
| It's the sort of thing where it's almost even tough from the beginning of it to pull clips out of because it's like, well, he's just saying shit. | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| So I decided to take this opportunity to play this clip that I think is indicative of so much of the word salad that he uses to make his point. | ||
| Nothing in this next clip is saying anything. | ||
| But it's the sort of thing that populates so much of his time filling. | ||
| And the general public has this auto-response, this conditioned, learned helplessness, normalcy bias, mass Stockholm syndrome, Overton window, cowardly, crime stop, 1984. | ||
| Will you guys bring me that box of Froot Loops in there? | ||
| It's in the shipping department. | ||
| That is such a good indication of just like... | ||
| I'm swinging from the monkey bars, and I do not know where my arm needs to go next. | ||
| It's just learned helplessness, Overton window. | ||
| Cowards. | ||
| The Jewelosco dogs are everywhere. | ||
| Can I get something to eat real quick? | ||
| Is anybody waiting on you right now? | ||
| I should say that the... | ||
| What Alex is doing... | ||
| He doesn't just want Froot Loops because he's hungry. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| One of his staff members has found a box of Froot Loops that says 1 plus 1 equals 5. Oh my god, so this is a thing. | ||
| This is 1984. | ||
| This is a thing. | ||
| 1984, a Froot Loops box trying to train your kids that one plus one equals five. | ||
| I think what it has to do with is like one and one are Froot Loops and milk, and then five is like five nutrients or something like that. | ||
| I get the sense that it's something like that, but Alex has turned it into like, it's doublespeak on a Froot Loops box. | ||
| Why do they spell fruit? | ||
| F-R-O-O-T. | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
| Globalists. | ||
| They're trying to dumb down the population. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| So, at some point, Alex does get into some actual issues, and he starts talking about the Christopher Dorner situation, and up until this point, I think that he's done a bad job of it. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Especially with his rhetoric that's run so through the coverage of, hey man, you think this is bad? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See what happens when you take our guns and you will murder all cops. | ||
| 1.6 million people are going to murder every cop in America. | ||
| It's just going to happen. | ||
| I feel like that line of rhetoric is not good. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| I think this one is kind of worse. | ||
| By the way, I've analyzed what this guy did. | ||
| He didn't have actually that much training and didn't do a very good job. | ||
| And they're now admitting that. | ||
| What? | ||
| Of evading and all the rest of this stuff. | ||
| By the way, if anybody with real training ever wanted to kill police, it's pretty easy to do. | ||
| You go to the police station and you wait until there's a shift change. | ||
| Is he giving us step-by-step? | ||
| And I'm not letting out any secrets here that real people trained in this type of stuff would not already know. | ||
| So he's giving advice on how to kill more cops, and then he's justifying saying that on air by being like, hey, it's not like anybody who doesn't actually want to commit a mass terrorist attack doesn't already know that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hey, dude, cut it out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That doesn't help. | ||
| So... | ||
| So he's thought a lot about killing cops. | ||
| That's what we're... | ||
| Well, he's read a lot of books that probably are about the fantasies of killing cops. | ||
| Yes, I would say so. | ||
| And what's really interesting about that is Alex is almost taking offense at the idea that people are saying that he was trained and planned this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Almost as if to say, like, nah, our guys are trained. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I was almost like, wait, is there some... | ||
| Is there some racism built deep down within that? | ||
| I don't think it's racism. | ||
| Because he's like, well, Dorner obviously wasn't trained, you know, like we trained the... | ||
| I don't think it's racism. | ||
| I think it's a, like, you guys haven't seen from Train. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| My Patriot Militia buddies are crazy. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they are trained. | ||
| It's almost like the very fact that you caught him means that he wasn't good enough. | ||
| I think there's a piece of that. | ||
| If we were trained, you know, like we're 1.6 million gun owners, we're going to zip in, kill one cop each, and then disappear into the ether. | ||
| Yeah, it's more of a threat. | ||
| I mean, it's more of that, like, we're worse than this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which, I agree. | ||
| I think it's a great thing to tell everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Strange brag, but okay. | ||
| So Alex has a couple guests on this show, on this February 14th episode, and the first one is a guy who is a dentist. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Does he have a telescope? | ||
| He doesn't have a telescope that I know of, but here's Alex introducing him. | ||
| He has a bunch of other medical degrees as well. | ||
| I won't get into all those, but he's one of the major formulators of things like... | ||
| The products Longevity has, like Polym Burst Plus, available, I should add, at InfoWarsTeam.com or InfoWarsHealth.com, but that's a side issue today. | ||
| Dr. Gold, give us your report. | ||
| You're there in the area. | ||
| You live there. | ||
| You're a syndicated talk show host out of California. | ||
| You've got the sources. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| So he's got this guy, Corey Gold, Dr. Corey Gold, who is just a Longevity spokesperson. | ||
| There is no other reason to have him on the show. | ||
| Alex is presenting him there, you heard it, as someone who lives in Southern California, so somehow he has a unique perspective on the Dorner situation, but that's fucking ridiculous. | ||
| There's millions of people who live in California that Alex could have just as easily talked to. | ||
| He's a syndicated radio host. | ||
| He has like two stations. | ||
| He is not a big-time radio host. | ||
| He has no expertise in the area that Alex is talking about. | ||
| This is just a shoehorned infomercial for longevity. | ||
| Which is what the interview ends up deteriorating into, because of course it does. | ||
| It's the only reason he's on the show, and Alex is stretching so far to make it relevant. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, we got a longevity guy who's out in California. | ||
| Give us the dirt on what it's like in California. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Also, let's talk about pollen burst. | ||
| Sure, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| There's a lot of immigrants coming in, but tell me a little bit about pollen burst. | ||
| So unethical. | ||
| Because it does. | ||
| He doesn't have much to say about the Dorner situation that's not already like... | ||
| He's read an article, and he's just repeating what's in an article, which doesn't make him the most attractive expert. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| His dentistry doesn't seem relevant. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| CIA dentist. | ||
| Dorner wasn't killed by a giant tooth, so I don't know what dentistry is going to come into this, but here's an indication of how things go. | ||
| This is really how the interview is. | ||
| Under U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1528, Paragraph B, they can do lethal testing on you as long as it's testing. | ||
| They can kill you. | ||
| And I think that's reasonable. | ||
| I think the government's God, and I think Dr. Corey Gold is an extremist. | ||
| Don't go to InfowarsHealth.com. | ||
| Don't get Pollen Burst Plus. | ||
| Whatever you do! | ||
| So that's kind of an indication of the vibe of this interview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's not great. | ||
| And bringing out his dumb bullshit about that subsection and then sarcastically not plugging longevity. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Don't even do it. | ||
| There's long stretches where they're presumably talking about it in service of the news and they just talk about how great the products are. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| Anybody else would be embarrassed to behave like this. | ||
| But not Alex. | ||
| It's a secret weapon to have zero shame. | ||
| Well, not a secret weapon. | ||
| Now it's the most powerful weapon in the United States. | ||
| It's so interesting that you bring that up because that's so relevant to Alex's next guest. | ||
| Alex... | ||
| Paul Manafort. | ||
| No. | ||
| Probably some connections. | ||
| But here he brings up who his next guest is in service of trying to be like, I mean, this goes back to his Piers Morgan obsession a little bit. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| But the producer, once the cameras were off, were, yes, you're right, it's the highest ratings we ever had. | ||
| I want to get you back on, but certain people don't. | ||
| Well, Morgan told me he didn't want to because I smashed his butt. | ||
| And I haven't really been talking about that the last few weeks. | ||
| But I wanted to ask Joseph Farah. | ||
| I don't know what he's going to say. | ||
| I haven't talked to him yet. | ||
| I got him on about all this stuff that's happening, gun confiscation bills in Washington state. | ||
| So Alex is pretending that he doesn't talk much about the Piers Morgan stuff, which is ludicrous. | ||
| He talks about it all the fucking time. | ||
| Rarely talks about it. | ||
| But he wants to ask Joseph Farah what he thinks about it. | ||
| Do you know who Joseph Farah is? | ||
| I do not. | ||
| Joseph Farah is the founder of World Net Daily, one of the absolute worst large-scale news sites online and one of Alex's main sources of information. | ||
| Now, Farrah's history is a real interesting subject, and possibly one that I would love to get into much more deeply on another day. | ||
| I meant to do a deep dive on his stupidity and how he found his way to WorldNetDaily only after running multiple other outlets out of business, how Farrah's directly responsible for Trump's birther claims, and maybe even have a chance to look into the trends that are clearly on display when you look at the books that WorldNetDaily chooses to publish. | ||
| But my research went off track just a little bit. | ||
| When I ran into a salon article that made an interesting point that dovetails into what you were just saying about shame. | ||
| World Night Daily was founded in 1997, and for years they enjoyed a very similar position in media that Alex did. | ||
| They said crazy shit that the mainstream conservative press wouldn't. | ||
| They floated conspiracy theories, they trafficked and explicitly coded bigotry just as a business model. | ||
| But now, in 2019, they are falling apart, in much the same way Alex Jones' business is. | ||
| Both of these organizations claim that their downfall is being caused by an oppressive tech company obsessed with driving them out of business because their message is too dangerous. | ||
| But this Salon article, written by Amanda Marcotte, makes a really interesting point. | ||
| No one cares about WorldNetDaily and Infowars anymore because Fox News is now doing what they used to do, but with a better budget and more access to talent. | ||
| As the article says, quote, conservative audiences who want to wallow in right wing fantasy world where women have abortions for fun, roving gangs of immigrants are coming to kill you and globalists are running elaborate secretive conspiracies to steal America from white people no longer have to turn to WorldNet Daily with its subpar web design and often incomprehensibly written articles. | ||
| The conspiracy theories and racist paranoia those audiences crave is being served up in a slick professional style at Fox News in the mouths of supposedly reputable pundits like Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity. | ||
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It's a reputable pundits. | |
| I wouldn't even give them a supposedly. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| It's a matter of perspective. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| But that's a really good point. | ||
| For years, Joseph Farah and Alex Jones served a crucial role in the conservative cycle. | ||
| They drove tons of votes to right-wing candidates, but they really only were useful as long as people in power never acknowledged them. | ||
| As soon as politicians, particularly Trump, began trying to help the dreck that they publish become more mainstream, it was only a matter of time before World Night Daily and Infowars started to have actual competition pop up, and it really appears that neither of them were up to the challenge. | ||
| So ultimately, what you have with Joseph Farah is a scammy loser who found a really profitable niche in a market that most people had too much dignity to enter. | ||
| Then, along came Trump, lowered the bar of what's dignified so far that people who would previously have been ashamed to traffic in Farrah's brand of bullshit found themselves in a position where it was no longer career suicide to roll around in that shit. | ||
| One little thing that's fun about Trump and Farrah. | ||
| In 2011, when Trump was getting going with his shit about Obama's birth certificate, he literally called Joseph Farrah and then World Net Daily employee Jerome Corsi constantly, quote, looking for affirmation that he was on the right track. | ||
| Farrah told the New York Times that he was impressed with how many hours Trump was willing to put into the birth certificate issue. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is... | ||
| This is so, so fucked up. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| It's like how we talked about how Alex is served by out-and-out anti-Semites saying that he's a shill for Israel. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But if out-and-out anti-Semites were just acceptable mainstream shit, then Alex would probably just be like, okay, cool, then we'll just do that now. | ||
| In the same way that Fox News used to ignore that shit, now that it's just fine, they're like... | ||
| Cool! | ||
| We'll hate that in the right way. | ||
| And it's true by degrees, too, because now, because of that, because of the phenomenon that's happening that we're seeing where what Alex used to do is being done better by Fox News and other more heavily funded outlets that now have the Overton window shifted so far that's like, alright guys, it's cool now. | ||
| Yeah, open season. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, Alex, you see a much more overt white nationalism and white supremacy, white identity ideas being expressed. | ||
| Things that he probably would have been to... | ||
| Not interested in touching, let's say, seven, eight years ago, now is fine for him. | ||
| He would speak in code back then, whereas now there is a real, real fucking trend of saying things pretty fucking overtly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think it's just because he's suffering the same thing. | ||
| Well, he's responding the same way to those beneath-the-surface ugly... | ||
| In the same way that Fox does to him. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's just lower on the totem pole. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And you can see it by going back to this point. | ||
| I mean, Corey Gold's not a good guest, but Joseph Farah is a big deal in the conservative media sphere. | ||
| He's the guy who runs WorldNet Daily. | ||
| That's a get. | ||
| Can we just acknowledge that we're listening to an episode in 2013 where he's saying that we're going to kill 1.6 million cops and right now you and I are both like... | ||
| Man, in the good old days, he wouldn't have been this bad. | ||
| At least it's sort of a hypothetical. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| That's how much worse it is now. | ||
| What I'm getting at, too, is you've got Joseph Farah on here, and he has some guests that are, even in 2013, he has some guests that are like, well... | ||
| That's someone who'd never come on now. | ||
| You flash forward to the present day, it's like Count Dankula is on. | ||
| The level of people he's talking to have also deteriorated. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, Joseph Farah sucks. | ||
| And I guess if I were to describe him, I do think I would like to do more about him. | ||
| And I would have loved to do that today. | ||
| But in order to do that, it would be like another fucking hour of this show. | ||
| I just decided. | ||
| We'll get to it later. | ||
| He's going to be back on. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| We're not worried. | ||
| But if I were to describe him to you, I would say he is Alex Jones with a mustache. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's basically it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Because think about it. | ||
| He runs a media operation. | ||
| I don't think he has a radio show, but he has a media operation that is serving almost an identical interest that Alex is. | ||
| They pitch similar stories. | ||
| Alex uses them as a source all the time. | ||
| It's basically... | ||
| It's two guys who are in league with each other in a propaganda ping-pong kind of thing, getting together and having a quote-unquote interview. | ||
| Right, so it's like a telenovela except for both twins are the evil twin. | ||
| It doesn't matter which one has the mustache. | ||
| Yes, that would be fair. | ||
| So Farrah is about to come up on the show, but before we get to that, Alex has to come back from commercial laughing about a commercial that he heard. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, this hour of broadcast is brought to you by the Squatty Potty, our new sponsor. | ||
| All right, Joseph Ferris, our guest. | ||
| I heard that network. | ||
| Adam's laughing really hard. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| What are they not going to think of next? | ||
| I mean, this... | ||
| So this is just trying to reinforce my new thesis that Alex thinks poop is hilarious. | ||
| Is he 80 years old? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| He loves scat humor. | ||
| What are they going to think of? | ||
| Next. | ||
| He loves fucking scat humor, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I almost never hear sincere, genuine laughter from him that doesn't involve fecal matter. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| We get Farah in his interview. | ||
| This was like a real troubling thing for me, because this is the first thing you hear from Joseph Farah. | ||
| The whole Dorner situation, and then the police on now six different feeds saying burn it down, burn the house down. | ||
| And they're telling us that's not what that meant. | ||
| It was reminding me of Waco. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
| I don't know if that's a fake laugh. | ||
| From him. | ||
| From Alex. | ||
| Oh, from Farah. | ||
| From Farah, it might be real, yeah. | ||
| That's pretty fucked up. | ||
| Like, Alex is bringing up this situation, and Farah thinks it's funny. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, when you say something about Christopher Dorner killing people and how it's a lot like Waco, the correct human response is maniacal laughter, like a James Bond fucking villain. | ||
| Yeah, that took me aback. | ||
| I thought that was a little bit upsetting. | ||
| So they talk about it a little bit. | ||
| It's not really all that interesting, their positions on the situation. | ||
| There's no real development. | ||
| There's nothing fresh. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex is trying to ask Joseph Farah about Chris Kyle, the American sniper guy who had just been murdered like a week prior. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And it turns out, I don't think that Joseph Farah knows who Chris Kyle is. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Do you think the Chris Kyle sniper getting killed that way, in all the different stories, is a little suspicious? | ||
| It's just really weird that that guy would get killed. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, you know, they had him surrounded. | |
| You know, it's kind of reminiscent of, well, I mean, you know, it might be a bit of a stretch, but, you know, Waco, Ruby Ridge, back in the day. | ||
| He thinks he's talking about Chris Dorner. | ||
| He still thinks he's talking about Chris Dorner. | ||
| He doesn't recognize, and Alex said sniper. | ||
| Chris Kyle, sniper. | ||
| And Farad, it doesn't register, but he does go on to... | ||
| It's like Waco. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which makes me think that that might be a talking point for these dudes. | ||
| Oh, you think? | ||
| I think this might be something that is pretty universal in this Alex Jones WorldNet daily matrix of propaganda. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| With them especially, they could have had their own pre-production meeting where Alex was texting him the night before saying, like, isn't this a lot like Waco? | ||
| And then they're like, we're going to make hay out of that all day tomorrow. | ||
| I mean, who knows if they did or didn't. | ||
| Probably didn't. | ||
| But it does seem like, you know, at least Josefara has a, like, this might be a stretch. | ||
| Which is like, a little. | ||
| A little. | ||
| So their interview stinks. | ||
| There's nothing else really worth covering in it. | ||
| So we're going to jump away from it. | ||
| And now get to the point where Alex starts taking some calls. | ||
| And, man, so we have some real big winners in the caller category. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Well, not now. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| We have. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| We have, of course, Old Man House Phone. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Bible Dan. | ||
| Bible Dan. | ||
| Bible Dan for sure. | ||
| We've got some winners that we're starting to recognize as, like, real regular folks. | ||
| And I've heard this dude before, but I don't know anything. | ||
| I don't remember when we've run into him, but I've heard this fucking guy on the show before. | ||
| And as soon as I heard his voice, I was like, uh-oh, what's he going to say? | ||
|
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The point is, this general call in polyps. | |
| He's inciting and agitating these Negroes by saying there's a black vein or, what was it, dark vein of racism in the Republican? | ||
| I remember you. | ||
| You have been calling for about 15 years or 16 years. | ||
| You always call in and talk about black people. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You've been listening like 16 years, haven't you? | ||
| Alex thinks it's funny that he's got this old racist color. | ||
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His response to that, he's agitating the blacks. | |
| Alex laughs. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| That's not that weird. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I know, but just living in a world where it's like, I'm going to have this dude on my radio show. | ||
| I'm going to let him get away with calling him General Colon Polyps, which, like, all right. | ||
| And then just go, he's agitating the Negroes and nobody's, like, hitting the... | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| Shut up! | ||
| Nobody's doing that. | ||
| Nobody's bothered by that at all. | ||
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No. | |
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Why would you be? | ||
| It's just a nice little fun jaunt down memory lane when old white people roamed the earth like gods. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that was kind of a, I mean, that shocked me. | ||
| That was like a little bit of cold water splashed on my face when he's like, he's a colon polyps. | ||
| I'm like, is that a different person? | ||
| Is he referencing someone I'm not aware of? | ||
| No, it turns out, Colin Powell. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| So what I think is really interesting is that Alex thinks that guy is being pretty funny. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| And then it's interesting to me how he responds. | ||
| Because in this next clip, you see very clearly that Alex can't outwardly agree with this guy. | ||
| But at the same time, he can't push back against him. | ||
| Alex is in this very weird space where he can't fight with the guy who's saying something clearly racist on the show. | ||
| And at the same time, if he agrees with him, he's like, yeah, he is agitating the blacks. | ||
| Then it becomes a thing where he's like, uh-oh, Alex. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So he has to dance this very delicate dance. | ||
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But they have attacked the whites. | |
| How many polyps does Colin Powell have? | ||
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Pardon me? | |
| In his colon. | ||
| Colin Powell, how many polyps does he have? | ||
| He needs a squatty potty, our new sponsor. | ||
| Sir, let me ask you a question. | ||
| Do you have a squatty potty? | ||
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I don't want to check his stool specimen. | |
| That's enough. | ||
| Folks, I'm sorry I've been screwing around and joking more and more on air. | ||
| It's just I've reached a point. | ||
| Get it off the screen. | ||
| Get it off. | ||
| Earlier, I hear this ad on the network. | ||
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I'm like, what is that? | |
| And then it turns into this big debate. | ||
| Chris is like, it's actually quite healthy. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Then, invariably, the camping stories begin. | ||
| Look, the whole point here is this place is out of control. | ||
| We have uploaded my visit to the biggest grocery store. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| Biggest gas station in the world. | ||
| He just hangs up on the guy by riffing about the squatty potty some more because he realizes that he's in that no-win situation. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He doesn't want to alienate the racists, but at the same time, he doesn't want to overly agree with them publicly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he has to just, ah, squatty potty. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Well, you saw in the previous clip, whenever he makes that little pause before he says black, and you're like... | ||
| You know what word you were... | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That you stopped, you started it, and you were like, I don't want that to be coming out of my mouth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That can be my caller's mouth, but not mine. | ||
| And I think right-thinking people see behavior like that as erring on the side of the racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think when you behave that way, when someone says racist things to you on your radio show and you refuse to be like, hey now, that means you are at least tacitly Or explicitly supporting the racist position that that caller is expressing. | ||
| So I think that's what's going on. | ||
| Now, that call is whatever. | ||
| It's interesting to see Alex dance like that. | ||
| But what I think is really fascinating is what's revealed by this next caller. | ||
| This is devastating to Alex's presumed credibility. | ||
| I have five squads. | ||
| It's a pleasure to talk to you, my friend. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| And I just wanted to say that, are you familiar with Gregor Mandel? | ||
| You know, that kind of rings a bell. | ||
| How do you... | ||
| McGregor Mandel? | ||
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Yeah, Gregor Mandel. | |
| No, tell me about it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| For someone who's made his whole career railing against the eugenicist globalists and how they have all these ideas about breeding and natural selection and all... | ||
| He doesn't know who fucking Gregor Mendel is. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| How embarrassing is that? | ||
| Are we sure that he made it all the way to community college and didn't fail freshman biology? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He does bring up his education on the 15th, and we'll get to that. | ||
| But that is disqualifying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I understand if you're like, I don't know a specific thing about his pee experiments or something like that, but if a caller calls in and is like, hey, do you know about Gregor Mendel? | ||
| And you're like, no, tell me about it. | ||
| That means you don't know shit. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| I understand if Alex doesn't have all the information at his disposal, or he only knows the broad strokes, but to be caught off guard by a caller bringing up Mendel is like, you don't know dick, man. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| That to me... | ||
| Unacceptable. | ||
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And... | |
| Particularly unacceptable because his enemies are eugenicists. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That is really what makes... | ||
| That would be like if someone came up to me and was like, you know... | ||
| Do you know who John Birch is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Tell me about it. | ||
| I think that name rings a bell. | ||
| Do you know who the John Birch Society is? | ||
| I study Alex Jones. | ||
| It would be insane for me to not know some of the spiritual precursors of it. | ||
| He fights against the globalist eugenicists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To not know where the ideas that underlie eugenics come from. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Just the birth of genetics as a concept. | ||
| Just period. | ||
| It's called Mendeleevian. | ||
| You wouldn't consider eugenics without the just regular genetics. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| Also, who will kick your ass and your family tree? | ||
| Conor McGregor Mendel. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That's a nice before and after on Jeopardy. | ||
| One of my favorites on that was Helen of Troy Aikman. | ||
| Strong work on Jeopardy's part. | ||
| Who launched a thousand ships and won the... | ||
| A million touchdowns. | ||
| Maybe not a million. | ||
| So I thought this caller's voice was familiar too, but I couldn't quite place it until he said this. | ||
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I myself am a pioneer research scientist, and I'm kind of like Gregor Mendel. | |
| And see, as far as the GMOs, this should not be going on. | ||
| You don't mess around with DNA. | ||
| And this... | ||
| They don't realize. | ||
| So I was like, oh, Pioneer Research. | ||
| Where have we heard that before? | ||
| I was going to say, we've totally heard Pioneer Research before. | ||
| What is Pioneer Research? | ||
| He called in on the January 18th show. | ||
| Here's him from when he called in when Mike Adams was co-hosting the show and talking to Andrew Wakefield. | ||
| Dr. Wakefield, I just want to say it's really a pleasure, sir, to be talking to you. | ||
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I myself actually am one of America's few remaining pioneer research scientists, and it's such a good coincidence that you happen to be on. | |
| I have no idea what that means. | ||
| I tried to look into it to see if it was some sort of a real designation of something. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's just a general term. | ||
| I don't know, but I love it. | ||
| Here's what I love. | ||
| I love the idea that now we've gotten to a point with listening to this show that there is a cast of peripheral characters that keep calling in. | ||
| Now we're like, pioneer scientist is back! | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Old man house phone. | ||
| Racist guy. | ||
| It really indicates to me that the pool of callers is much smaller than it appears. | ||
| There's just a lot of people that you kind of forget. | ||
| Or people who aren't distinctive enough in their nonsense. | ||
| If that guy didn't say, I'm a pioneer scientist, I wouldn't remember that he had called in a month previous. | ||
| Yeah, because you know what you can't ever forget? | ||
| The words pioneer scientist coming out of somebody's mouth genuinely. | ||
| Yeah, I think that was an avalanches song. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pioneer scientist. | ||
| That's frontier psychiatrist. | ||
| Actually, that makes just as much sense. | ||
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Pioneer scientist. | |
| Pioneer researcher and frontier psychiatrist. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| You're a nut! | ||
| That's what it means. | ||
| This pioneer scientist is crazy in the coconuts. | ||
| So yeah, I love that. | ||
| I think that maybe... | ||
| One of the focuses that I'm going to have moving forward is, like, really trying to keep track of these callers. | ||
| And I would love it if, okay, let's say this podcast falls apart someday, and I end up needing to find a new project. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think a great thing to do would be try and find some of these callers. | ||
| I would love to talk to the pioneer scientist. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| Could you imagine a documentary about one of America's last pioneer scientists? | ||
| How awesome would that documentary be? | ||
| I think Old Racist Man is probably dead. | ||
| And I wouldn't be surprised if Old Man House Phone isn't with us anymore. | ||
| Or he'd be tough to get a hold of. | ||
| But Frontier Psychiatrist seems like he's a git. | ||
| He's probably doable. | ||
| He seems like he could get there. | ||
| Bible Dan is probably still kicking out there somewhere. | ||
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Oh, for sure. | |
| I did try and find him, but it's very difficult to Google Bible Dam, because Daniel's a book in the Bible. | ||
| It's a little bit tougher. | ||
| You're going to have to go far past the first search results. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex doesn't know who Gregor Mendel is, and Pioneer Scientist is back. | ||
| That makes this episode worthwhile by itself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that guy thinks that comparing himself to Gregor Mendel in 2013 in the field of genetics is a really good designation for him. | ||
| Well, he's on the GMO tip. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Great. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He doesn't have much to say about the issue. | ||
| Doesn't really understand how Mendel's research has kind of moved on from there. | ||
| Like, we've kind of expanded a little bit past, like, some beans are white. | ||
| He's not interested in that. | ||
| He's interested in pioneers. | ||
| So, dude, here's what's interesting about looking back at this stretch of time. | ||
| Like, if I were just to tell you early 2013, you would have no idea what happened, right? | ||
| You don't have any sense of what went on in the world then, necessarily. | ||
| And sure, the Sandy Hook shooting was December 2012, but that's a huge news event. | ||
| Now we go a little bit further through, and the Dorner situation, that was a huge news event. | ||
| And here's another one that you forgot happened, probably, in February 2013 that is huge. | ||
| This was on the 15th. | ||
| Well, obviously, this is going to be another riveting and extremely important and informative and hopefully awakening transmission today. | ||
| It is the 15th day of February 2013, and we've got a pretty serious situation going on. | ||
| I mean, statistically, we don't really know how often large asteroids hit the Earth. | ||
| But we know that a few hours ago, in the videos up at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, a large asteroid came into the atmosphere and looked to me like a stone meteor, because those are the types that break up and explode like this. | ||
| Just dozens and dozens of sound waves being broken, so you hear dozens and dozens of different Sound barriers being broken. | ||
| Different sound barriers being broken. | ||
| Absolutely spectacular. | ||
| And it looks to me from the different videos and angles I've seen, it is not just one meteor coming in. | ||
| And the larger question is, is this part of a spur? | ||
| Because if you watch movies like Armageddon, they're actually accurate. | ||
| And then a lot of times large asteroids. | ||
| Got knocked out of the asteroid belt by some larger collision, so there'll be a group of rocks. | ||
| So what's going on is... | ||
| Do you remember this? | ||
| This was the... | ||
| Is this when we were talking about... | ||
| Oh, this is a different thing? | ||
| Well, for days now, Alex has been talking about how this giant meteor asteroid is going to pass by the Earth, and the government's saying that it's not going to hit us, but who knows? | ||
| Yeah, it was within 30,000 miles. | ||
| I think it was 17,000. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 17 million. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It's space. | ||
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It's space. | |
| It was very close, relatively. | ||
| But it wasn't the sort of thing where anyone was like, it's going to hit us. | ||
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Right. | |
| It was a near-earth object, and we all had a big conversation about how much shit is going on. | ||
| How interesting it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex, to his credit, up till this point, has been pretty on the side of, it's nothing to worry about. | ||
| The government are liars, but don't worry about it. | ||
| It's not going to hit us. | ||
| Now, on the 15th, another object. | ||
| Flew over Russia. | ||
| Do you not remember this? | ||
| I don't remember this. | ||
| There were tons of videos of it. | ||
| It's pretty amazing. | ||
| This piece of a meteor came in and actually made it through the atmosphere and didn't kill anybody, but it did end up injuring like a thousand people in a town in Russia. | ||
| And so, because it happened on the same day... | ||
| That this other near-Earth object was going to make its closest pass. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex has combined the two. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And is now trying to insinuate that I've been saying that it's not going to hit us, but maybe it is. | ||
| It sounds like he just said that we need to duck and cover, or what's his prescription for not getting murdered by an asteroid? | ||
| It's really weird, because up until this point, it's been really, like, non-sensational, just like a... | ||
| You know, the closest something's ever come, but it's nothing to be concerned about. | ||
| And I was like, now that this has happened in Russia, what's his take going to be? | ||
| Is he going to go Y2K on us? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's it going to be? | ||
| Seems like he has to. | ||
| I wasn't sure. | ||
| And it's interesting to see how this develops, because it's pretty irresponsible, I would say. | ||
| And until they documented that strike and other strikes... | ||
| They thought that it was every million years or so, just dead reckoning, that a large asteroid hits the Earth that could cause an extinction-like level event. | ||
| Now they estimate maybe every 100,000 or so. | ||
| That's why there's evidence of other human civilizations that we don't even know the names of. | ||
| In fables, they're known as Atlantis. | ||
| And people like Plato, who was a pretty mainline historian and philosopher, they report about Atlantis like it was absolutely well-known that it existed. | ||
| And they found a lot of ruins of cities and things in the Mediterranean, in the Atlantic. | ||
| But it's been so eroded, they just know it's large stone blocks. | ||
| Things that have been built. | ||
| So, undoubtedly, humans have been through a lot. | ||
| Yeah, we've been through a lot. | ||
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That's true. | |
| I agree with the conclusion. | ||
| I don't agree with how you got there. | ||
| No, I think he's right. | ||
| There's so much that's a problem there. | ||
| He's talking about, like, other meteor strikes. | ||
| People have uncovered it. | ||
| We used to think it was way less common than it is, but it's, you know, it happens. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And actually, it's way more common than Alex is even saying. | ||
| Like, there's so many little tiny things that fall all over the place that cause no damage no one even notices. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, little minuscule things. | ||
| Just space dust, basically. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That ends up hitting. | ||
| So, like, that point is taken. | ||
| But what he's doing is trying to be like, eh, you know, who knows? | ||
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You know, this big one that's come, eh, no. | |
| We pretend that it never happens, but it could fucking happen. | ||
| Atlantis used to be around. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, great. | ||
| That one doesn't make any sense, though, because that, like, if that... | ||
| If, like, one one-hundredth of it had fallen to Earth, we would all have been dead. | ||
| Like, the entire Earth would have been just destroyed completely. | ||
| Or at least for human life. | ||
| I mean, it would cause, like, a nuclear winter. | ||
| It would be game-changing, to say the least. | ||
| Right, but, I mean, that's no good for selling survival food. | ||
| It's too late if you're already on the same day. | ||
| Well, that's true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| It is the day of. | ||
| It does help to just create that feeling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| So, I don't know, man. | ||
| I would say that it's kind of erroneous to say that Plato was a mainstream historian. | ||
| Maybe like a Tacitus. | ||
| I'm going to go with Pliny the Elder. | ||
| He was right all the time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Josephus. | ||
| There's some historians you could pull from. | ||
| I wouldn't be comfortable calling Plato a historian. | ||
| Sure, he's a historical figure. | ||
| And also, I mean, we go over this all the time just because Atlantis is something I really enjoy. | ||
| Plato didn't discuss it as if it was common knowledge. | ||
| If anything, it's presented in the dialogues like Critias and Timaeus. | ||
| As being secret information that Solon told Plato's grandfather after Solon went to Egypt and talked to elders there who told him about it. | ||
| So it's the Alex Jonesian version from Plato. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| He doesn't know anything. | ||
| But this next clip, I think, is where it starts to veer from kind of insinuation towards kind of... | ||
| It's a little sensational. | ||
| A little more than I want it to be. | ||
| The A14 is reportedly going to cross the closest that any asteroid has ever come to the planet Earth since man was able to track that in the last 60 to 70 years. | ||
| So today, 2.24 Eastern Standard Time, 2.24 PM Eastern Standard Time today, it is set to pass the closest to the Earth. | ||
| That any asteroid has ever been recorded to pass by the Earth that did not strike the Earth. | ||
| This is not a movie. | ||
| There is now more than a thousand people injured. | ||
| We're only four or five hours into this. | ||
| Paul Watson at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. | ||
| has been absolutely on top of this with the most in-depth posting and reporting along with DrudgeReport.com that also has about, I don't know, 15 stories of the very latest posted up there. | ||
| Also, Russia shot down the meteor. | ||
| Theory spreads online. | ||
| We're reporting on that. | ||
| I do not believe they shot down a meteor coming in at 17,000 plus miles an hour. | ||
| So what's interesting about that is that Alex is reporting on theories floating around that Russia shot it down, but that theory is posted on his website. | ||
| Him saying, I don't believe that Russia shot this down, then don't run the fucking story on your website about the theory floating around that it... | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson has a theory that I don't believe. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Front page of InfoWars. | ||
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No, no, no, no, no. | |
| No. | ||
| I am willing to believe that Paul Joseph Watson's story was about other people having theories that Russia shot it down. | ||
| But if you believe that's crazy, don't write about how people think it's crazy. | ||
| Ah, but come on. | ||
| Everybody wants a good story. | ||
| There's nothing here. | ||
| Like, this idea that Alex is like, you know, people are reporting on this Russian theory. | ||
| You're reporting on it! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, but that's the trick that they all use when they want to say something. | ||
| Like with Fox News, where it's like, Sean Hannity says something dumb, and then the next day they're like, people are saying that this dumb thing is true. | ||
| We're not reporting it as true. | ||
| But Alex specifically doesn't believe this. | ||
| But doesn't he? | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| Doesn't he want to just like a little bit? | ||
| He's pretty consistent throughout this, that idea that Russia shot it down is crazy. | ||
| So that doesn't even explain his motivation. | ||
| It's just, you don't have to do this. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| You just need a better editorial standard on your website so you don't have bullshit that you disagree with on there. | ||
| Probably smart. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip, he's not saying it's going to hit the Earth, but he's also not making me very comfortable. | ||
| And best we can tell, DA14, you know, the size of a football field, that would be like thousands of megatons if it was to hit the planet. | ||
| To make it all the way in, it would definitely cause the temperature to go down for several years. | ||
| It would throw up tons of dust. | ||
| NASA's got breakdowns of what it would do if it hit. | ||
| And it, again, depends what angle it came in, where it came in. | ||
| But it would absolutely be something that would change things big time. | ||
| Really amazing to see this going on. | ||
| Here's the issue. | ||
| A lot of times, large asteroids like DA14 is going to be passing the Earth here in about 2 hours and 15 minutes. | ||
| Countdown. | ||
| That is 2.24 Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| That's 1.24 Central. | ||
| That's 12.24 Mountain. | ||
| Are we doing this? | ||
| That is... | ||
| 1124 Pacific, and you can adjust that for time zones around the world. | ||
| And it is coming, again, the closest that any large asteroid to not hit the Earth has ever been recorded coming to the Earth. | ||
| We know that, again, from satellites, they can now see thousands of large craters all over the Earth that look just like the moon when the computers remove the foliage. | ||
| You can see giant impact craters basically all over the planet. | ||
| Just like the moon. | ||
| And so this is a regular occurrence. | ||
| It happens all the time. | ||
| This happens all the time. | ||
| It could happen right now. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| There's a bunch of craters. | ||
| Also, all of these times, let's get it all live. | ||
| He does that multiple times. | ||
| Like, just gives out each time zone's time. | ||
| And if you notice, that's during his show. | ||
| He has to be on air when that happens. | ||
| So he is pretty excited. | ||
| Kind of about building that up. | ||
| The tension of it. | ||
| Stick around for... | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| There is an awareness of, like, I will be on air when this passes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he doesn't want to say it's gonna hit, because that's stupid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he also doesn't want you to think it's totally safe. | ||
| Because then there's no tension. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's no presentation to it. | ||
| There's no performance. | ||
| It's just a story of like, hey, there's a big thing flying over there. | ||
| You might see a line in the sky. | ||
| Yeah, what is this, NPR? | ||
| Turn the dial. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| You want to keep eyes on the product. | ||
| So, you know, you've got to resort to insinuation. | ||
| You've got to resort to sort of irresponsible conjecture. | ||
| And this is where I think it reaches its natural conclusion. | ||
| Does that give you an idea? | ||
| Just a little piece. | ||
| They're estimating that, again, it was the size of a couple school buses, maybe. | ||
| Can you imagine something 500 times bigger coming in? | ||
| And that's a conservative estimate, I mean, of DA-14. | ||
| It would come in, it would blow up and shoot spurs over a massive area, and if it hit something like London or Chicago, Or New York, or Tokyo, or Peking, or just Dallas, Texas, it would undoubtedly kill tens of thousands of people conservatively. | ||
| And my only issue is I said, hey, I don't think it's going to hit the Earth, but if there was an asteroid coming to hit the Earth, NASA would be telling you don't worry about it. | ||
| It's just the instinct of government to always lie. | ||
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What? | |
| He's presenting a scenario where it's like, I don't think this is going to happen, but if it was going to hit us, it would be exactly like it is right now. | ||
| Everything would be happening just like this, but it's probably not going to happen. | ||
| You should always be afraid. | ||
| The government definitely wouldn't tell you if it was going to happen. | ||
| I think I would be fine with that. | ||
| What? | ||
| If the government didn't tell me. | ||
| I don't know what the right thing to do is, but here's all I know. | ||
| Whatever Alex is doing is not cool. | ||
| No. | ||
| The position of this isn't going to happen, but planting the seed of, like, the government lies to you, so they would lie to you about this. | ||
| And if that situation were happening and the meteor was about to hit, your experience would be just like what you're feeling right now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The government would have lied to you, and your death warrant is a couple hours away. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Keep listening. | ||
| So if the government ever tells you again that an asteroid is coming close... | ||
| It's probably going to hit us. | ||
| Well, it could. | ||
| It probably will. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| So here he sort of reiterates that position. | ||
| We're going to be getting into what's happening on that front. | ||
| And look, I don't think this asteroid is going to hit us. | ||
| My point was, is that if the government says, don't worry, nothing to worry about, that's when I start worrying. | ||
| Because it is the closest 17,000 miles that an asteroid has ever been recorded coming by the Earth that didn't hit the Earth. | ||
| This is just irresponsible conjecture. | ||
| It's really deeply fucked up. | ||
| He has a responsibility as somebody who has an audience to come in with facts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To come in with a position of having an awareness about the situation, not some sort of a paranoid combativeness towards experts. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| All you can do with this line of rhetoric is cause people to freak out. | ||
| That's the only thing it does. | ||
| Yeah, and it's not him. | ||
| He knows full on when he says like, oh, anytime the government says don't worry, that's when I start worrying. | ||
| That he doesn't actually believe that shit. | ||
| No, because if he did, he wouldn't be on the air. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But his listeners believe that shit for sure. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So he's just causing them to live in a constant state of, like, a huddled mouse underneath a goddamn church. | ||
| Yeah, anxiety-filled distrust. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| Yeah, if he believed for a second that a meteor was going to hit the earth, he would not be on air. | ||
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No. | |
| He would be with his family. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He'd have a bunker or something. | ||
| You know, like, if you believe anything you're saying, even close enough, Like, there's a chance, because the government lies! | ||
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Right. | |
| Your behavior would be completely different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think I would treat it like the eclipse. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| I think I'd go out to a park and just watch it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if you're going to go anyways, I might as well see something cool. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's a little difference. | ||
| I mean, the eclipse is just some nice visual thing. | ||
| The other is a certain death. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, I mean, at the end of the day... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, in this next clip... | ||
| What I'm saying is the eclipses can kill you. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how, like, it's not gonna hit, but that doesn't mean that something really bad isn't still gonna happen. | ||
| I wouldn't hold your breath, folks. | ||
| The asteroid, who knows, though, the government could set off a bunch of nukes and say it was an asteroid. | ||
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There it is. | |
| Take our rights. | ||
| I mean, you know, you never know what they'll do, because they're so criminal, they're so conniving, the globalists are so sickening. | ||
| We're on the march. | ||
| The empire's on the run. | ||
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So he has a false flag theory. | |
| It's a fucking asteroid false flag. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I was actually... | ||
| I'd just gotten onto that train of thought before you started playing the clip. | ||
| I was like, I wonder if he's going to say something like, the government's going to fake an asteroid hitting you, and that's why they're doing it next day. | ||
| They'll set off a bunch of nukes! | ||
| And I'm like, goddammit, I am too deep into this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Once you start being able to predict where his narrative's going, it's... | ||
| It's time to check out for a second. | ||
| This is troublesome. | ||
| So yeah, man, it's just like, okay, so nothing's going to happen, but if something does happen, then it's probably the globalists setting off a nuke, not an actual asteroid, even though I've just spent the last, I don't know, hour trying to explain to you that asteroid hits happen much more than you think, and maybe it could happen. | ||
| Fuck you, man. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's just beyond the fear and the anxiety and the paranoia. | ||
| He's trying to confuse people, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he's disjointed. | ||
| This isn't even a coherent position. | ||
| No, what he's saying is literally anything can happen. | ||
| But... | ||
| These are the things you should be afraid of. | ||
| The only thing that can't happen is the government acting in good faith. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| All other things are entirely possible, no matter how ridiculous they are. | ||
| The idea that they would set off a nuke and somehow people would believe it was a fucking asteroid hitting. | ||
| You know, there's different things that happen when those things... | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex is insulting Al Gore, which is fine. | ||
| Not hard. | ||
| But he does it in a really interesting way. | ||
| I'm telling you, if Al Gore had red hair, he would look like the character. | ||
| Fat bleeper from Austin Powers. | ||
| In fact, for TV viewers, we'll show you a shot of... | ||
| This was behind-the-scenes Al Gore before he went on the Ellen DeGeneres show, before he went into makeup. | ||
| Need a flatulence tax for that guy. | ||
| All right, that's enough. | ||
| This is one of two times that he calls Al Gore fat bastard from... | ||
| Austin Powers. | ||
| He does it twice? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| On this show? | ||
| Just on this show, yeah. | ||
| Just on this show. | ||
| Austin Powers references in 2013. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Get in my belly! | ||
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Stop it. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| I don't even want you referencing those references in 2019. | ||
| Fresh? | ||
| Fresh. | ||
| Certainly everyone knows that there's a remarkable similarity visually between Al Gore and Fat Bastard. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| What picture must he have been looking at that Al Gore with red hair would immediately go to Fat Bastard? | ||
| I'm really actually... | ||
| I'm sorry, I should have said Fat Bleeper. | ||
| Fat Bleeper. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really pissed off that Alex didn't do a Get In My Belly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's so good at impressions. | ||
| How do you resist the Fat Bleeper impression? | ||
| You couldn't even resist it. | ||
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Get in my belly! | |
| I refuse to acknowledge that accent because he did it in So I Married an Axe Murderer for his grandfather and it just doesn't count. | ||
| It doesn't count. | ||
| No fat bastard references. | ||
| I only go with his head is the size of an orange. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| So Alex at this point starts taking some calls and this is great. | ||
| This is just Alex being a complete dick to a guy who didn't realize that Alex had gone to his call. | ||
| This is such asshole-ish behavior that I would love out of anybody who's not Alex Jones. | ||
| Hello, Robert. | ||
| Hi, Derek. | ||
| How are you? | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| Hi, how are you doing? | ||
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Very good. | |
| Am I on the air now? | ||
| Hi, hi. | ||
| Hi, are you there? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Hi. | ||
| Hi, are you there? | ||
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Hello? | |
| Hi. | ||
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Let me move my phone here. | |
| I'm joking, man. | ||
| I'm joking. | ||
| Instead of getting mad by callers going, hello, hello, hello, I'm just going to start doing that. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Did he hang up after that? | ||
| No, it's a pointless call. | ||
| That sort of thing is exactly the kind of behavior I loved on Loveline. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, that's Adam Carolla for you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm stuck taking calls from these people, and this is really frustrating to me. | ||
| There is something you can kind of understand. | ||
| When you do a call-in show, there's those hiccups that are like, this really disrupts the flow of the show. | ||
| It's super annoying. | ||
| But from Alex, I just don't appreciate it. | ||
| It's really mean. | ||
| Because it also feels so much more sincerely angry. | ||
| It's cruel. | ||
| Well, perhaps. | ||
| But even when he's saying, like, I have to joke around because, you know... | ||
| Instead of getting angry, it's like, I feel the deep anger from you there. | ||
| No, that's what I mean when I say cruel. | ||
| I don't mean the action is cruel. | ||
| I mean the intent behind it is not humor. | ||
| It's based on anger. | ||
| I'm trying to hurt this person. | ||
| I want them to feel pain. | ||
| Yeah, somewhat. | ||
| But with Adam and Drew on Loveline, it did seem much more like, we're going crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're doing this overnight radio show. | ||
| Yeah, it seemed more like trying to entertain themselves, like more of a mystery science theater feel to it than Alex's angry, lashing-out feel. | ||
| But while he's taking some calls, they end up talking about how he went to Piers Morgan back when he was on CNN, and then afterwards... | ||
| Alex got talked about on Piers Morgan's show, and Buzz Bissinger, one of Piers Morgan's guests, threatened to kill Alex. | ||
| And Alex was very mad about that. | ||
| And then after that, Alex confronted Piers Morgan at a gun shop in Texas. | ||
| And Alex starts talking about this, and in the middle of talking about it, realizes that he forgot to confront Piers Morgan about a murder threat, which I didn't even realize, but that's a big problem. | ||
| And then the next night they said they wanted to kill me on the show, Buzz Bissinger and Piers Morgan and others. | ||
| I should have brought up to Morgan, even though I promised to be nice to him. | ||
| They let me behind stage and surprise him in South Texas two weeks ago, a week and a half ago. | ||
| I should have said, hey, why'd you say you want to shoot me? | ||
| But it didn't matter. | ||
| I told the gun shop owner if he let me surprise him, I'd be nice to him. | ||
| Yeah, you really should have brought that up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| You should have. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| That is frustrating. | ||
| Instead, you just kept begging to come back on the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that was really what you were there for, Alex. | ||
| You don't even care that Buzz Bissinger threatened to kill you. | ||
| Not even a little bit. | ||
| Although it's one of his only... | ||
| Alex's only valid complaints about people. | ||
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Right. | |
| I remember the brief moment of sympathy that we had for that circumstance. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| It's a very valid thing to point out. | ||
| Like, hey, someone on a fucking show said he was going to shoot me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's messed up. | ||
| But it really brings home that that is not what Alex cares about. | ||
| He only cares about that in so much as it gets him points. | ||
| When he went and actually had Piers Morgan in front of him, if he cared, that should have been one of the first things he brought up. | ||
| And you don't have to be like... | ||
| Dick to him to bring it up that came and I understand that we have a difference of Perspective on things but a guest on your show said he wanted to shoot me and you were fine with that right? | ||
| Can we talk about how insane that is you could do that in a polite way? | ||
| You don't have to yell at him to bring that up right and ask didn't bring it up at all because it was this is days Weeks later from when he confronted peers and at that Texas gun shop And he's only now realizing she Shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think he's also thinking that that would have been a better strategy to try and get back on the show. | ||
| Like, if he confronts Piers about that, and he's like, hey, you let this guy say stuff like that, and I get pilloried for saying stuff like that. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And then Piers is on the defensive, and they're like, well, we should have you come on the show to talk about that. | ||
| Maybe that's what Alex is, ah, I should have brought that up. | ||
| Maybe that would have been a better approach. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Shit. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex gets another caller, and this dude is like, he's on one. | ||
| He's talking about how somebody accused him of threatening to shoot up a school, and then he went to L.A. and had a meeting with George Norrie. | ||
| But before the meeting, he got arrested, and then he was in prison, and he was trying to get people to help him. | ||
| His story makes no sense. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So he wants some help from Alex. | ||
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It's very complicated. | |
| I'd like to... | ||
| I'm almost ready to... | ||
| I'd like to talk to one of your investigators and show them my documents. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| We barely have time. | ||
| We're working usually until about 7, 8 at night here. | ||
| And we're totally overwhelmed just covering the news. | ||
| And everybody thinks we can help when the government takes your kids for no reason. | ||
| Or we can help when somebody sets you up. | ||
| Or we can help. | ||
| Sometimes we can take a case and help somebody. | ||
| If it's right there and we know we've got them. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| You know, places like California, even though we're on a lot of affiliates there, a lot of nice people there, the state's really evil. | ||
| I mean, we might as well live in North Korea. | ||
| So, like, Alex doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| But also, I don't... | ||
| Think that he was wrong in this case to not take on that dude's case. | ||
| He said he had 30 pounds of documents. | ||
| When you have pounds of documents, I got red flags. | ||
| That's not how you measure. | ||
| His story didn't make sense, too. | ||
| Obviously, it's probably not polite to be like, hey, buddy. | ||
| You're crazy. | ||
| So maybe his response is fine, but I think it underlies a real, like, I don't trust my own audience. | ||
| I'm not going to help you. | ||
| That is a waste of my resources. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And I don't really care about most of the people who are listening. | ||
| I know that the government's oppressing all of us, and I'm going to help in the only way I can, which is yelling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Making you scared of a meteor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, that's what I was just hearing there, is the underlying truth behind those, like, The meteor is coming or you can't trust the government or anything like that. | ||
| I am going to saddle you with as many fears and problems as I can. | ||
| And I can't do anything positive for you. | ||
| Zero positive actions. | ||
| Now someone should. | ||
| I hope a listener starts an organization that could help you positively. | ||
| But that ain't me. | ||
| I make no positive actions whatsoever. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So at this point, Alex gets another guest. | ||
| He has a guest here on the 15th, and this woman, I can't remember her name because she's going by just a single name. | ||
| I think it's Sandy. | ||
| She's a nurse. | ||
| Bible Sandy? | ||
| No. | ||
| Bible Dandy? | ||
| No. | ||
| She is a nurse, and she had called in previously to whistleblow about the military giving soldiers meds. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Scandalous stuff. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so they have an interview that's basically all just anti-science, anti-psych-med bullshit. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And I don't really care about most of the things she's saying because she says a couple things that are markedly, they're just literally disqualifying. | ||
| And here's the first one. | ||
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They have these problems with them. | |
| What they do is they take one molecule out or add one molecule in, and then they change the name. | ||
| Now, PCP, Angel Dust. | ||
| It's now called ketamine, and it's a legitimate drug, and people are being given it as a fight drug. | ||
| I mean, this stuff causes amnesia. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| They're giving people, quote, ketamine is the way I pronounce it, ketamine, ketamine, and that's in the news. | ||
| I saw where they're putting little kids on ketamine, which is PCP. | ||
| Yeah, it's PCP. | ||
| So this is a really good illustrative moment about how unreliable Alex Jones'supposed whistleblowers are. | ||
| Here he has this nurse on who's blowing the whistle about dangerous psych meds, and she sincerely and unironically is arguing that PCP and ketamine are basically the same thing. | ||
| And they only came out with ketamine because PCP had too much baggage. | ||
| But the evil doctor still wanted to fuck people. | ||
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So they just took a molecule out or added a molecule on. | |
| It's called ketamine now. | ||
| The first problem is that while the chemical underlying PCP was fairly popular like 70 years ago, it's been outlawed for medical use since 1965. | ||
| Ketamine would be approved for human use five years later, but it would be absurd to say this was in response to PCP falling out of favor. | ||
| Just because some things happened around the same time in a chronological sense doesn't mean that the prior thing caused the latter thing. | ||
| Right, like the famous saying, correlation equals causation. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| So, also, PCP and ketamine are not one molecule aloft from each other. | ||
| They're very different substances that cause very different effects on people. | ||
| They both have been used as anesthetics at some point in history, so it's easy to take a completely surface-level approach to this and say that they're similar, but that's a very uninformed position. | ||
| Cocaine has been used as an anesthetic. | ||
| The chemical makeup of PCP, or phencyclodine, is C17H25M. | ||
| Hydrogen and nitrogen, they are mixed up. | ||
| Conversely, ketamine is C13H16ClNO. | ||
| So it's really clear just from a basic glimpse there that they're very different compounds. | ||
| For one, with ketamine, you have nine less hydrogens in there. | ||
| So that's going to affect the structure of things pretty considerably. | ||
| Not even taking into account that now you've added in oxygen and chlorine. | ||
| These are very different substances, and it's, like I said, disqualifying to hear a nurse say what she's saying. | ||
| It indicates that she's either not actually a nurse or she is one and she doesn't know what she's talking about and just trying to use her supposed professional credentials to strengthen her misguided anti-science views, which is what you'd expect from an Alex Jones whistleblower. | ||
| I may... | ||
| Don't be wrong about this, but what you described are the chemical compositions for a molecule, correct? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, so, C9 and whatever it was, right? | ||
| That is a molecule. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So they cannot add or subtract a molecule from that molecule. | ||
| But that's what she's saying. | ||
| The atoms of, like, you take out a carbon and now you've got PCP. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what she's saying. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| It's imprecise language. | ||
| And I don't think even you or I are equipped to speak about it exactly. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| But yeah, what she's trying to say is you alter the chemical compound just slightly, and then bada-bing, bada-boom, you take PCP and you make a ketamine. | ||
| And that's not the case. | ||
| There's so many... | ||
| If you look at how the things bind to each other, too, the structures are completely different. | ||
| There's no way... | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| And anybody who's done either of them will tell you it's very different. | ||
| So here's the next thing that she says that's disqualifying. | ||
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Don't get me started on Freud because people take too much stock with psychiatry. | |
| Father of the Freud of psychiatry, you know he was a cocaine addict? | ||
| On record, he was obsessed with his poo-poo. | ||
| So were you. | ||
| So Sigmund Freud isn't the father of psychiatry. | ||
| He's the father of psychoanalysis. | ||
| It's a very different thing unless you don't care about being accurate. | ||
| Freud pioneered new ideas about the interplay of the human in society and the underlying processes inside the brain, and he believed that through analysis and talking things through, one could learn about how the two interact with each other. | ||
| He was specifically and emphatically opposed to turning the process of analysis into a medical thing and did not advocate for the use of medications in his practice. | ||
| Moreover, he was opposed to looking at psychological issues as illnesses that needed to be treated and advance the view that's closer to seeing them as stuff we've all got. | ||
| Basically, his whole thing was like this psychoanalysis allows you to find the ways that you lie to yourself in damaging ways and resolve those issues. | ||
| Sincerely, this nurse has no idea what she's talking about. | ||
| She thinks PCP is ketamine and that Freud is a psychiatrist. | ||
| Any interviewer who wasn't just blindly and embarrassingly desperate to justify the point that she's making, that meds are evil, would have shut this interview down by now, knowing that his guest doesn't know anything about the subject she's presenting herself to be an expert in. | ||
| This is embarrassing for Alex, by extension, that he's not saying, like, hold on now, Freud is the father of psychiatry? | ||
| Wait a second, you're telling me that PCP is ketamine? | ||
| Instead, Alex is like, yeah, absolutely, it is just PCP. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He doesn't know what he's talking about, and he's just allowing her to embarrass him on his show. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| So, that should make this next clip be a little easier to swallow. | ||
| Because Alex is complaining about how everyone is just suggestible. | ||
| Everyone's so suggestible. | ||
| Everyone in the population, they're all just sheep. | ||
| You can just tell them... | ||
| Tell them something and they believe it's true. | ||
| You could tell them something like ketamine and PCP are the same thing if you just take away a molecule. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that complaint is interesting because what he uses to defend his assertion that the human population is so suggestible... | ||
| Is his own listeners? | ||
| Well, close. | ||
| And it's really frightening how suggestible people are. | ||
| You can joke with people on the street and say, you just fell down. | ||
| Are you okay? | ||
| I've actually done this as a test. | ||
| And they go, I did? | ||
| Really? | ||
| And you're like, you know I'm joking. | ||
| And they're like, no, no, did I? | ||
| Whoa, what's going on? | ||
| I mean, they're so weak-minded. | ||
| Like, I ought to go out and do this on the street and go, hey, you just fell down. | ||
| I had a crew member one time. | ||
| We've been out doing a shoot all day, and we're in the restaurant, and I go, because I wanted to do a test. | ||
| And I went, hey, man, you just fell down. | ||
| You just fell over. | ||
| You were just out for, you were just a heat stroke or something. | ||
| They're like, really, I did? | ||
| Wow, yeah. | ||
| How long was I out? | ||
| I'm like, no, no, it didn't happen. | ||
| All you've demonstrated is that your employees are idiots. | ||
| Like, you haven't demonstrated in any way that this applies to the general population. | ||
| And also, I'd be willing to believe that this person was afraid of you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say that there are a ton of other possible explanations for this employee's behavior. | ||
| I call this joke, what if Obi-Wan was kind of a petty prick? | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| Like, trying to generalize. | ||
| The results of this single trial. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think I should do this all the time. | ||
| I think I should just go out and harass people for no reason and pretend it's a joke? | ||
| Well, no, because he's... | ||
| He's just a dick move. | ||
| He starts by saying that the public is so weak-minded you can tell them they fell down and they'll believe you. | ||
| One time, I did that to a staff member. | ||
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Right. | |
| You can't generalize that to the population. | ||
| You have one experience, and there are so many extraneous variables there you've got to exclude. | ||
| Power relations. | ||
| He works for you, yeah. | ||
| Bingo, that's another one. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big one. | ||
| It's nuts, man. | ||
| I will believe anything you tell me. | ||
| Please do not fire me. | ||
| That goes to show how weak his inferences are. | ||
| He's applying this one specific instance to everyone. | ||
| Either that or he only hires people that he can trick thusly. | ||
| That's an insult to everybody who works for him as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then maybe we can take this and assume, huh, well, who is gullible enough to believe that PCP is ketamine? | ||
| Those sorts of bullshit things that he says, maybe his staff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Maybe they're also suggestible that it becomes a place where everyone believes all the stupid shit that's said on his show. | ||
| Right, like a cult. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, in this next clip, we get another thing that we always got to keep track of. | ||
| First of all, callers. | ||
| Second of all, Alex's fecal obsession. | ||
| Third of all, does Alex have feelings about killing dogs? | ||
| Oh, man, I'm so sick of it, though. | ||
| I mean, it's bad. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| We got really bad people. | ||
| It'd be like if there was a rabid dog in my yard and it had rabies and I saw kids playing down the street on their scooters and I just saw the rabid dog attack my chihuahua and it's foaming at the mouth. | ||
| It's a pit bull. | ||
| I would go get my rifle and I would shoot it. | ||
| And the New World Order is like a trillion pound rabid dog. | ||
| You got to shoot them. | ||
| You got to shoot those New World Orders. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man. | ||
| He can't stop talking about killing dogs. | ||
| Happens all the time. | ||
| God, that's... | ||
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Do you know how often I talk about killing dogs, Dan? | |
| Every time Alex does? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's about it. | ||
| Exclusively. | ||
| It's pretty much the only time it ever comes up in my life. | ||
| Is thinking like, huh, he talks about killing dogs a lot. | ||
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A lot. | |
| A lot. | ||
| Seems to be a preoccupation. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| I wonder what that means. | ||
| So, as this show winds down, Alex has another guest on. | ||
| And it's a guy who I'd never heard of before. | ||
| Stinks. | ||
| Here is Alex giving him an introduction. | ||
| Now, I really wanted to get this guy on the air with us. | ||
| Stephen W. Mosier is an internationally recognized authority on China and population issues, as well as an acclaimed author speaker. | ||
| He's worked tirelessly since 79 to fight coercive population control programs. | ||
| I had a little bit of a red flag since the last time Alex had a China expert on. | ||
| It was that guy who was pretending. | ||
| To run an adoption agency. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Human trafficking agency, you mean. | ||
| The Pink Pagoda guy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I don't know if I trust your ability to suss out who is and is not a China expert. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I was like, I don't want to even look into this. | ||
| What kind of awfulness am I going to find when I open the lid? | ||
| So, on the surface, Alex's guest here, Steve Mosher, is a guy who's just out there trying to alert people about the inhumane practices of the Chinese government. | ||
| He's trying to lift the veil and make everyone aware of the brutality that was implicit in how the one-child policy was enacted, and the falsehoods that were behind the rationalization of its creation. | ||
| Basically, his whole position is that China created a false overpopulation idea in order to create oppressive... | ||
| Population control measures. | ||
| That's basically his thesis. | ||
| But if you look a little deeper into Mosher, you get a glimpse of a different sort of picture. | ||
| Possibly a guy who is super anti-abortion and is zealot about it and uses China as a means of advancing his own agenda. | ||
| He's using China as a means to advance anti-abortion arguments. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| So Mosher's big claim to fame is that in 1979, he was the first American anthropology research student to be allowed to go to China for research purposes after the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| So he is a pioneer researcher. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's one of the last. | ||
| He's one of the last. | ||
| His research resulted in him being not allowed back in China and being expelled from Stanford before he completed his PhD. | ||
| His supporters argue that this was all punishment for his intrepid reporting. | ||
| He released photographs of women having forced abortions, and the Chinese government was mad about that, so they kicked him out of the country and convinced Stanford to expel him. | ||
| That neatly fits into the anti-China, anti-communist worldview, so pretty much anyone who cares about who Stephen Mosher is just accepts that as the truth. | ||
| However, the reality is that he was expelled because he released those photos with the subject's faces exposed, which is a really serious ethical breach. | ||
| If you're doing investigative work purporting to demonstrate the evil of a government, and a big piece of your evidence is pictures of specific citizens of that government's country being the victim of government oppression, you have a paramount responsibility to protect those people's identity. | ||
| Stanford was shocked that Mosher would publish these images with no regard for how his doing so could put these women in danger. | ||
| And after reviewing relevant ethical standards, they kicked him out of the school. | ||
| This is not something that doctoral programs do lightly. | ||
| By the time someone is in the process of working for their PhD, the school has an investment in their success. | ||
| It takes pretty serious violations to get kicked out of a postgraduate program, since when that sort of thing happens, it doesn't only reflect poorly on the student, it also looks bad for the program. | ||
| If you're kicking out a bunch of post-grad candidates, it implies that you don't have good admissions standards. | ||
| So schools tend to go out of their way to keep students in the program and correct problems where they can be corrected. | ||
| In the case of Mosher, his actions were beyond what could be accepted. | ||
| And so they had to get rid of him. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That should tell you a little bit about this guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If he did that, he got women disappeared. | ||
| There's a possibility. | ||
| Or he subjected them to such a high risk of retaliation from that. | ||
| Yeah, and he had every reason to know that he should have been more careful. | ||
| Yeah, he was literally a postgraduate student studying China. | ||
| There are ethical standards in place specifically because you could put a target on somebody. | ||
| And he wantonly behaved in a way that did just that. | ||
| And actually, I mean, because of the fallout of this, it made it much more difficult for research students to go to China. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| It caused a real serious backlash. | ||
| And so while there are many good reasons to denounce and decry the practices of the Chinese government in relation to its one-child policy, Mosher seems to approach his criticisms from a very weird angle. | ||
| His argument is that they started the policy because of fears about overpopulation, but that those fears were fake and just a cover-up for their real reasons, which are that they wanted to brutally control the population. | ||
| He then takes this implication that the Chinese government was lying about their motives and applies it to all family planning and birth control initiatives worldwide. | ||
| This is really what Mosher is all about. | ||
| He's a devout Catholic who is staunchly opposed to all family planning. | ||
| He runs an organization called the Population Research Institute, whose mission is to, quote, debunk the myth of overpopulation, which cheapens human life and paves the way for abusive population control programs, and, quote, expose the relentless promotion of abortion... | ||
| Abortifacent? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Contraception. | ||
| And chemical and surgical sterilization in misleadingly labeled population stabilization, family planning, and reproductive health programs. | ||
| So that's really what he's about. | ||
| Mosher and his institute do not care about the seriously complex issues of overpopulation. | ||
| Serious researchers on the topic would agree with him that the issue isn't that there's too many people. | ||
| It's that our resource allocation is completely fucked up. | ||
| And that overpopulation is a serious issue when the vast majority of the people who exist are living in poverty. | ||
| poverty. | ||
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Poverty is the problem, not just the number of humans, and it would be easier to take Mosher seriously if he cared about that at all. | |
| But he doesn't, because his work is just a Trojan horse to attack contraception and all pro-choice advocacy. | ||
| But that's not Great. | ||
| As he wrote, quote, I assume he's talking about the Cherokee, the Iroquois. | ||
| He's not? | ||
| Our culture and survival as a prosperous nation needs Catholics to marry young, have more than two children, and preach the God-given glories of motherhood. | ||
| A woman's fertility is our greatest treasure and not the boardroom of business politics. | ||
| Boy, that is... | ||
| I like red flags when they're small, but that's a red flag the size of China. | ||
| Let's call it that. | ||
| There's always, and this is something that, you know, it deserves to be brought up. | ||
| There's almost always a little kernel of white nationalism wrapped up in most anti-abortion crowds. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When you just dig a little bit beneath the surface. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You'll pretty much always find that a lot of their fears arise from notions like there aren't enough people like us having kids and too many people unlike us hanging around. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's kind of beneath a ton of it. | ||
| Which is why their highest touted argument that they always do is, nobody should care more about anti-abortion than black people because millions of black babies are being aborted all the time. | ||
| That's who should care most about it. | ||
| And they do that to protect themselves on the flank from people noticing that all you really want is more white people. | ||
| It does seem like that's a strategy. | ||
| So what we have here is a guy running a nativist anti-abortion crusade masquerading as some kind of a noble battle against depopulation, as evidenced by his experience in China 40 years ago, which resulted in him getting expelled from Stanford. | ||
| This guy is not on the up-and-up. | ||
| So you probably are wondering, how can he afford to run this kind of very clearly disingenuous operation? | ||
| And naturally, the answer is... | ||
| Right-wing billionaires. | ||
| There it is! | ||
| The Population Research Institute is heavily funded by the Lynd and Harry Bradley Foundation. | ||
| Harry Bradley, naturally, was one of the first members of the John Birch Society, along with Fred Koch, and the two men have shared a very similar legacy in terms of funneling money to zealots. | ||
| The Bradley Foundation has contributed millions of dollars to Donors Trust, the Koch-operated dark money conduit, which is one of many connections between the Bradleys and the Kochs as allies in their decades-long crusade against progress. | ||
| And the Bradley Foundation has given tons and tons of money to the Population Research Institute. | ||
| And this Mosher's work specifically. | ||
| Fun side note, the Bradley Foundation paid Charles Murray a million dollars to write his dogshit book, The Bell Curve, which to this day is one of the main sources white supremacists point to to justify their beliefs that black people genetically have lower IQs than white people. | ||
| The book has been called a, quote, part of a campaign to justify racism, which is why it should come as no surprise that it's promoted by the likes of Stefan Molyneux and all the cool kid race realists running around on YouTube trying to have a free exchange of ideas. | ||
| The Bradley Foundation's funding made that possible because they're more than happy to use racism to push the agenda that they're really after. | ||
| That's the name of the game. | ||
| So, here you have yet another mouthpiece for right-wing billionaire-funded front groups appearing as a guest on Alex Jones' show, presented benignly as an expert on population. | ||
| It's how it always goes. | ||
| I want fires because they are currently in my brain. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They are in my brain. | ||
| There's all kinds of fires. | ||
| Just behind my eyes, there's fires being lit all over the place. | ||
| How did we even let this happen? | ||
| How does right-wing billionaires even happen? | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| It does make sense, and it's a tradition going all the way back. | ||
| For some reason, rich people just show up and fuck us all over. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the answer to the problem is transparency. | ||
| The answer to the problem is making people show who they're donating money to. | ||
| These large interests. | ||
| It needs to be open. | ||
| Because the influence is so insidious when it goes through these conduits like Donors Trust, you're able to funnel so much money and enable so many suspicious things. | ||
| And if it was open and public, like, oh, you got $100,000 from these people who... | ||
| Are interested in getting rid of affirmative action. | ||
| That's why you're promoting that black people are genetically dumber than white people. | ||
| You can make the causal connection between the money and the rhetoric if it's all open. | ||
| But since it's so often not, it's a much harder issue. | ||
| And as that festers, as years and years and years of that ability to funnel money places secretly goes on, the damage compounds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I would say that that would have been a way to avoid this. | ||
| At this point, going by our shame doesn't exist anymore strategy, I wouldn't be surprised if they just came out and were like, yeah, I got donated all the money by Coke in order to make this... | ||
| We may be past that point. | ||
| I think we're past that point. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's still some ironies, you know, because... | ||
| If all of this was exposed to the light of day, a lot of these people who have these ideas about, yeah, you know, what's wrong is that there's these globalists and these billionaires that are controlling the conversation, and they would realize that a ton of the things that they support are funded by other secretive right-wing billionaires. | ||
| Like, James O 'Keefe got tons of money from the Bradley Foundation early on. | ||
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Of course! | |
| Like, all of these people would have to wrestle with the idea of, like, huh. | ||
| The people on our side who fit the exact description of the demons that we're against are actually the ones funding the information sources that we have. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| They must be the good billionaires fighting against the bad billionaires. | ||
| Done. | ||
| We can move on. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Alex Jones, what else you got? | ||
| It's an easy leap to make, but it's hard to defend. | ||
| It is. | ||
| So they could make that jump, but then they've put themselves in a box that's really difficult to defend living in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's possible, but I don't know. | ||
| My feeling about it is... | ||
| I don't know what the right answer is, but transparency is the first step. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It would allow for a better possible future. | ||
| So one of the things that's interesting is I heard on this episode, I heard an intro back from commercial that I've never heard before on Alex's show, and it's fucking hilarious. | ||
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Don't worry. | |
| This show is documented. | ||
| Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. | ||
| Alex Jones here back live. | ||
| It's documented. | ||
| What just happened? | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Did their lead-in just be like illegal immigrants are coming for you? | ||
| Even their lead-in is racist as shit? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| He's saying that all the claims are documented. | ||
| Oh, are you sure? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| See, now, here's why I never considered... | ||
| I didn't even consider that as a possibility because I thought it was too far beyond the pale for them to even think that that makes sense. | ||
| I know that Alex is anti-immigrants to an extent in 2013, but not to the extent he is now. | ||
| If that was played now, I would be on your side. | ||
| For sure, for sure. | ||
| But see, for me, I didn't even consider what your take on it was. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I was listening to it like, don't worry, we have proof. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I thought it was defensive. | ||
| I found it to be like, hey, I know this sounds crazy, but we know what we're talking about. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| See, my hackles are so raised for all of the racism. | ||
| It's like, I heard that and I was like, don't worry. | ||
| We don't have any Mexicans on. | ||
| And it's like, Jesus Christ, even your lead in is fucking racist. | ||
| I see where you're coming from. | ||
| I think it's much, much more likely that it's... | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Don't research this. | ||
| We know what we're talking about. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| So in this next clip, I don't care to address the specifics of what he's talking about. | ||
| I only am going to play this for the comical nature of it. | ||
| We hear zero from Gloria Steinem of the CIA and all the rest of these people. | ||
| If you didn't know it, folks, she wrote one of her books that was all CIA front to break up the family, Ms. Magazine, all funded, which again was a Carnegie endowment operation so that there's no mother so the state becomes the daddy. | ||
| I don't really care about that. | ||
| All I care about is the idea that he's like, this is a Carnegie endowment operation. | ||
| Like, he's aware of that, but he doesn't realize that he's talking to a Bradley Foundation funded guy. | ||
| Like, you understand, like, what's going on here? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If Alex is... | ||
| Representing himself as some guy who's like, I know where the foundation money goes to. | ||
| How are you so blind to it on this side? | ||
| How are you so blind to the people that you're in league with who were taking right-wing foundation money? | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| I think that the way that they would get away with, or the way that he would try and talk his way out of that is it always has to, because he's such into movies, it has to be a titanic struggle. | ||
| It always has to be. | ||
| One side's God, one side's the devil. | ||
| They're both super powerful. | ||
| He couldn't get away with that. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think he doesn't know shit. | ||
| Because he doesn't research anything. | ||
| And he knows about this Ms. Magazine stuff and the Carnegie Endowment and the Rockefeller Foundation from people like W. Cleon Skousen and all of these anti-communist shitheads that came before him. | ||
| He only knows the stuff that they've pointed out. | ||
| So his body of information is so one-sided. | ||
| And he doesn't dig into things himself, so he doesn't know anything about these right-wing billionaire foundations that are funneling money to all of these other places that, suspiciously, he just is like, oh, they're just, like, Mosher's just some fucking awesome dude who cares about the myth of depopulation, so he started this foundation, and thankfully, the grassroots have funded him. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That's the perception he has. | ||
| And maybe he does believe that because he doesn't do any reading. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's possible. | |
| I find that hard just because so many of his friends have taken money from those kinds of places. | ||
| Like he never, nobody let him on that it was a giant, you know, Yeah. | ||
| Milo didn't let him know that Coke bought 200,000 copies of his book or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| It's really hard to believe that he's that naive. | ||
| Just from a business standpoint. | ||
| And as a human, I don't believe it. | ||
| But as someone who can't prove anything, I can't believe the contrary either. | ||
| He does know and he is in on it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's complicated. | ||
| So we have one last clip here. | ||
| And what it is is essentially the two of them have been having this nonsensical conversation about how overpopulation is a myth and birth control is stupid and all of that. | ||
| And, you know, from looking into this guy, I kind of know, like, demography lies behind the arguments that he's making, and he's really just an anti-abortion, anti-contraception zealot. | ||
| And he's concerned about variable birth rates, which ironically are exactly the same sorts of things that are now in the present day motivating people to murder Muslims. | ||
| Shockingly, regularly, whenever you hear those sorts of attacks happen, the people seem to all have that sort of, there's too many of them, I'm standing up for the West kind of ideas. | ||
| So, you know, when you hear this, you kind of realize they're making it a little too public. | ||
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And so at the end of the day, you know, someone is going to come to inherit France and Germany and Italy. | |
| It won't be the descendants of the modern-day French and Germans and Italians because they're not having any descendants. | ||
| Other people who are more family-friendly will come to occupy those countries, and I think most of our listeners know who those will be, the people from the Middle East and from North Africa principally. | ||
| The West has committed total suicide. | ||
| It's clear, man. | ||
| In 2013, he's already on that tip. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Does he think people are still fighting the Moors? | ||
| Like, what are we doing, man? | ||
| This is fucking nuts! | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so when we hear all this stuff in 2019, it's like, oh, Alex has descended. | ||
| He's giving overtures to it in a way that people don't... | ||
| We didn't... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't want to speak for everybody, but I think a lot of people probably wouldn't have that register as, like, what he's talking about is intensely fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you just hear that in a much different way in 2013 than we do now, because people are acting on it now. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not something that two lunatics have in an offhand conversation on a radio show that nobody's actually listening to. | ||
| But this furthers my point. | ||
| This wasn't being discussed on Fox News in 2013. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| This is what Alex was doing that is now acceptable for Fox News to talk about, and thus he must get more extreme in 2019. | ||
| This doesn't get the audience aroused in 2019 anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is pretty messed up. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, it is fun to see exactly where we were with the crazy people being where we are now with everybody normally. | ||
| You compare that to the way Fox News covered the migrant caravan as being a flood of... | ||
| Invaders. | ||
| You know, borderline pests that are coming. | ||
| The horde. | ||
| You know, that whole thing, and you think, this guy was just saying that shit about... | ||
| Muslims in 2013 and Fox News never would have touched that. | ||
| Maybe on an off-hand thing. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But as a network position, it doesn't seem like it was as overt. | ||
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Because they had to worry about sponsors and shit. | |
| Do you remember when you had to worry? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it's pretty crazy. | ||
| Especially because this stretch of time is so bizarre. | ||
| Like, Alex is... | ||
| Already kind of letting Dorner by the wayside. | ||
| He's said that it's like Waco, and that seems to be enough for him. | ||
| And then you get a fucking meteor coming in on the 15th, and then he has an interview with a complete racist population guy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I still am surprised by this. | ||
| This 2013 is such an interesting stretch of time. | ||
| There's so much happening in the world. | ||
| You've got Obama coming in for his second term. | ||
| So a lot of people are fucking up in a tizzy about that. | ||
| You've got so many newsworthy, gigantic events happening. | ||
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It's a dense, dense time. | |
| Alex is so weird. | ||
| He's so weird. | ||
| That is one thing that I was thinking while the earlier clips were going on. | ||
| It's just like, because I always forget, this is ostensibly supposed to be a news show. | ||
| Yeah, it is easy to forget that. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So I completely forget, and I'm like, if I were just listening to this show, I think I would have no idea what's going on. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, period. | ||
| No, it would be tough to say you were informed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Certainly. | ||
| Like, just no clue other than, you know, an asteroid might kill me today. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But probably not, but the government lies to you. | ||
| The government might be lying about this. | ||
| And even if they were telling the truth, that's probably because they're doing it. | ||
| It's probably their meteor. | ||
| It's a nuke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you would not be informed, for sure. | ||
| But you would get the message that Alex wants you to get. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And that is a rampant, unhealthy level of distrust for everybody but him and his weird friends. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's not great. | ||
| That's healthy. | ||
| Anyway, thank you all for listening. | ||
| This brings us to the end here. | ||
| We'll be back on Monday. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We have Twitter. | ||
| It's knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| And I'm at GoToBedJordan. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
| We've also, you can download our podcast through iTunes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Subscribe, leave a review. | ||
| You can do that. | ||
| Also, a big thank you again to Robert Evans for having us on Behind the Bastards. | ||
| Nice week for people who can't get enough of us. | ||
| New content every day of the week. | ||
| Bad week for people who can. | ||
| Excessive amounts of Dan and Jordan flying around the internet. | ||
| But if you all enjoyed it, thank you for that. | ||
| And another huge thank you to Lara D'Souza for the t-shirt designs. | ||
| There's a link on our website, knowledgefight.com, that says merch or store or shirts. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Yeah, you'll be able to figure it out. | ||
| There's a button there that takes you to... | ||
| Thank you all. | ||
| Really gorgeous work. | ||
| So when we get to the end of this here... | ||
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Oh, oh, oh! | |
| Alex's imaginary chihuahua in his dog murder scenario. | ||
| No, but that dog was... | ||
| It did have rabies. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The chihuahua that was attacked by the dog. | ||
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Oh, the victim dog. | |
| The chihuahua was just there. | ||
| You don't know what happened after it got rabies. | ||
| Well, it probably killed it. | ||
| Could have turned into a zombie. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Zombie Wawa. | ||
| But because we don't know that for sure, we should probably err on the side of believing that a chihuahua did not kill anybody. | ||
| But one guy who technically probably has is Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Alex, I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |