#287: April 15-18, 2019
Today, Jordan returns from his vacation, so Dan fills him in on all the goings-on from the past "Huge News Week" on The Alex Jones Show.
April 22, 2019 - Knowledge Fight
02:37:46
Participants
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| When was the last time you bought a shirt, Dan? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Fuck you, man. | ||
| See, here's the problem with you. | ||
| Your questions are so loaded now. | ||
| Like, there used to be random things, and now you're just trying to lead me into a plug about how we have shirts. | ||
| That's all you're doing. | ||
| That's not interesting. | ||
| That's an ad pivot in your question. | ||
| That's something that we criticize Alex about, and here you are manifesting it one minute into our show, sir. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| We have shirts. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We have shirts and long simmering resentment? | ||
| Not long simmering resentment. | ||
| Short simmering resentment? | ||
| I'm not even resenting. | ||
| I'm just saying that you're slacking in your duties. | ||
| Your one job is to fucking ask a question at the beginning of the show. | ||
| You have just turned that into a marketing opportunity, which I find disgusting and disgraceful. | ||
| Okay, I'm sorry. | ||
| So you're on timeout. | ||
| I apologize that we are... | ||
| I just think it's an opportunity for interesting, random, obscure conversations to pop up. | ||
| Someone on Twitter mentioned that we played a song on an episode and it made me realize, oh, that's right. | ||
| I had a big Italo disco phase. | ||
| You could ask me something about Italo disco. | ||
| I was supposed to... | ||
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You could have. | |
| Intuit that Italo Disco was on the table? | ||
| Certainly could have been an interesting conversation. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Instead, fucking plugging shirts. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Crass capitalism. | ||
| Yes, unfortunate. | ||
| So anyway, there will be a link up on knowledgefight.com to where you can get a shirt. | ||
| And we currently have one design available that is a shirt that says Knowledge Fight on it with a note stuck to it that says Call Larry Nichols. | ||
| And we will have another design soon. | ||
| I don't think that this is the best shirt possible. | ||
| No. | ||
| But it's something that we had to do since we talked about a Call Larry Nichols shirt. | ||
| From the very jump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's there. | ||
| There will be more coming in the future. | ||
| We're working on it. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to do. | ||
| We'll be going over most of last week on Alex's show. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Particularly the days of April 15th, 16th, and 18th. | ||
| And that is because you were on vacation last week in Mexico. | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
| And a lot of stuff happened that bears mentioning. | ||
| Yeah, they rebuilt the Cathedral of Notre Dame, right? | ||
| They already built it? | ||
| Might have that backwards. | ||
| They already fixed it? | ||
| Might have that backwards. | ||
| Well, it burnt down in 1359, right? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Well, they had rebuilt it, but then something bad happened last week. | ||
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It double burnt. | |
| Well, I haven't checked Alex's show. | ||
| I know, you're in Mexico. | ||
| So today we'll be going over those episodes and getting into the what with there. | ||
| But before we do that, we've got to give a shout out to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| And we really appreciate it. | ||
| So first, Christopher with a K. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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| Thank you, Casey. | ||
| Thanks, Casey. | ||
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Nikolai. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Nikolai. | ||
| Thanks, Nikolai. | ||
| And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who bumped up their donation a little bit. | ||
| Someone who was donating on a basic level and bumped it up, so Seamus, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a globalist. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark! | ||
| Thank you so much, Seamus. | ||
| Thank you, Seamus. | ||
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| This button says support the show. | ||
| We would appreciate it. | ||
| Indeed you can. | ||
| It would be nice. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we are beginning our adventure on April 15th, which was Monday of last week. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that is the day that Notre Dame caught on fire. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we will get to that a bit in the future of this episode, but most of Alex's show on the 15th is him... | ||
| Complaining about Bernie. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Nothing else is going on in the news. | ||
| He's giving off a sense to me that he's very afraid of Bernie. | ||
| There's a feeling that he's very worried about him being the candidate. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of people are starting to get afraid of that. | ||
| Well, so he's focusing on him quite a bit. | ||
| He sent Millie Weaver and Caitlin Bennett, the Kent State gun girl, who now works for Infowars, out to a rally, and Caitlin Bennett got kicked out, and she's making a real big deal out of it. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| And so Alex has the two of them on to talk about going to this Bernie rally, and it's trash. | ||
| There's nothing worth covering there. | ||
| But it is important to note that most of the show... | ||
| I'm not kidding around. | ||
| I would say a good 60% of the show, Alex does in a Bernie impression. | ||
| That is fantastic. | ||
| And this clip, I believe, is indicative of how he's kind of lost himself in the character. | ||
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They wrote laws where they don't have to pay the taxes, and then the middle class almost pay the taxes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes, I don't know, man. | ||
| I think that his impression is just getting... | ||
| Getting wild. | ||
| Very staccato. | ||
| We're in Lenny from Of Mice and Men territory, right? | ||
| He can't do it for long stretches of time, but he's really trying. | ||
| So he's just going on and on in this Bernie character and realizing, like, I don't have the chops. | ||
| I can't stay inside this voice. | ||
| I'm no James Adomian. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| His long-form impression work is real disappointing. | ||
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Lacking. | |
| And it's most of this episode, to the point where I was listening to it, and I'm like... | ||
| I know that Notre Dame is on fire, and what's going on here? | ||
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Why are you just doing a Bernie impression of this whole fucking show? | |
| Does he have a picture-in-picture of Notre Dame burning as he's doing the show? | ||
| As far as we know, he hasn't found out yet. | ||
| Or the news hasn't broken, or whatever. | ||
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unidentified
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Gotcha. | |
| But in his next clip, Alex talks about how he's always right about everything. | ||
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unidentified
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Sure. | |
| Which he's said many times, but I keep in so you can keep in mind as we go through this episode. | ||
| So I have this tendency to always go over all my evidence. | ||
| Instead of just saying what's happening like mainstream media does. | ||
| And so I'll go over some of the evidence of it. | ||
| But let me just do this for you right up front. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't say this with pleasure. | ||
| It scares the daylights out of me that we're basically the only broadcast that has studied the entire architecture of this takeover. | ||
| Drugs has done it some. | ||
| Zero Hedge has done a great job. | ||
| But when it comes to really calling it, we're over the target. | ||
| And I don't say that and go, oh, look, we're over the target. | ||
| That's why they want us off air. | ||
| What we're saying is the kill shot. | ||
| So, part of the conversation that he's talking about here, the context of it, is that he needs Trump to really act on internet free speech. | ||
| Because if he doesn't, Alex is going to diminish all of his returns. | ||
| I mean, he's not as overt about that, the idea that, like, I can't suck more people into my operation if I don't have access to those people, and I will go out of business. | ||
| I need Trump to act now. | ||
| So he's trying to present it as, like, this is a Soviet takeover or whatever, and we're the only ones who have been right about it all along. | ||
| Which is why they've been kicked off, as opposed to constant harassing and threats and so on and so forth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| The Soviets. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But, well, you see, the thing is that social media, it's a nefarious thing. | ||
| It's not just that they want to crush speech like Alex's. | ||
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Right. | |
| They also have some real gross plans for you and your family. | ||
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Ooh, well, like what? | |
| And then once you're forced online to live, we can now take it away from you if you don't behave the way we want. | ||
| And at first, it's just saying you're a liberal and there aren't two genders and families are bad. | ||
| Next, it's being sterilized. | ||
| Signing up to have your mind uploaded to the web so that your carbon body doesn't hurt the earth. | ||
| But really, you won't be uploaded. | ||
| It'll be AI that knows you, that's been watching you for 20 years, that knows how to mimic you, your voice print, everything you say. | ||
| So your friends and family think, yeah, Carl or David or Carol or John or Sanchez, you know, they had pain and they were overweight and they were whatever. | ||
| And, you know, there wasn't jobs for them anymore, but it didn't matter. | ||
| Now they're in a virtual silicon system that isn't bad for the environment. | ||
| And, you know, He went in, they uploaded his brain, but you can't have two of those if the agreement is he has to die. | ||
| That is the agreement. | ||
| I told you 20 years ago they'd upload your brain. | ||
| It's not going to really be uploaded. | ||
| It's a fraud. | ||
| But say you've got to die. | ||
| You've got to give up your physical body in this rebirth. | ||
| And of course the top scientists are now all over the news saying you must physically die to have your brain uploaded. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So it's a fact similar. | ||
| It's not you. | ||
| It's a devilish counterfeit. | ||
| So Facebook and all their stuff is just sort of a first stage in terms of getting you to kill yourself to be uploaded as a false clone on the web. | ||
| Philosophical question. | ||
| If your entire brain is uploaded and an AI is programmed to mimic perfectly exactly that, is there a difference? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This is something that's been discussed by greater minds than ours. | ||
| And some people believe there isn't. | ||
| Some people believe that there is. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have a position on it. | ||
| Because what Alex is talking about is shit. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| He's misrepresenting comments made by, like, futurists who talk about, like, well, there is a possibility of the idea of uploading a consciousness. | ||
| Like, if you imagine that as a possibility, but you would probably have to die in order to do it. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's not like saying, like, hey, I want to kill you so I can upload you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As if it's a real, like, prospect that people are like, oh, we're going to do this now. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Well, we got a weekend free. | ||
| I do, you know, I mean, there is something that whether or not it is part of like an intentional advertising model or just sort of a side effect that we didn't know was coming of social media, I do think that there is something dangerous about the idea of like, you know, living on these social media platforms in a way that, you know, your life is so different without them. | ||
| Fully. | ||
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You know, there is something that we all need to take a look at with that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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But I don't think it's the same thing that Alex is talking about. | |
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| I think that conversation's a little bit different. | ||
| So Alex is mad about this online censorship. | ||
| Partially because it will lead to you being forced to kill yourself to become a clone. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then the other part is that he really wants to get back on social media so he can become a clone. | ||
| I was going to say, there's a little bit of a contradiction here. | ||
| Isn't he arguing to get back onto these platforms that he is also arguing are going to kill all of you? | ||
| He's not making any sense. | ||
| Most of this stuff is really unimportant. | ||
| I just kept it in kind of to give you a sense of how the beginning of this show is going as opposed to where it ends up. | ||
| So here is Alex talking about how Trump is the devil if he doesn't stop this Alex not being on social media? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So if the president doesn't stop the censorship, of course he'll lose the election. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Or maybe the president is the devil. | ||
| Maybe the president is like Lucifer, incredibly deceptive, so deceptive he could even trick me. | ||
| So hard to trick this Alex character is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, to be fair, in the campaign, like early on, before Alex was fully on board with Trump, as we saw in the 2015 stuff, there was, like Alex did say, either Trump is the most evil person in the world, or he's the greatest. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So he did introduce it as a dichotomy. | ||
| He could go back to, like, I told you he might be the devil at the beginning. | ||
| I just decided to work with him. | ||
| I went 50-50. | ||
| Look, sometimes it's true, sometimes it's false, sometimes you gotta guess. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You never know which way it's going to go. | ||
| Messed up. | ||
| So, it is easy to fool Alex, again, as we'll see as this goes along. | ||
| He could fool even me! | ||
| Even me! | ||
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Even me! | |
| The most resolute, logically-minded person in the world, Alex fucking Jones. | ||
| I like that he doesn't even present it as though, like, he doesn't even have that big sarcastic voice to it. | ||
| It's literally him, like, wrestling with the thought. | ||
| It's not like him going, like, or he could fool, he could have fooled me. | ||
| It's him just being like... | ||
| Yeah, or he could be the worst and he tricked me. | ||
| There's a damn good chance I have been hoodwinked. | ||
| We know. | ||
| So at this point, news of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, excuse me, Notre Dame is the college. | ||
| Notre Dame, the news is broken, and Alex reports it here. | ||
| Well, this just in, we have live video for this, we'll show you the 1100 year old church It's not the music. | ||
| Is on fire. | ||
| This clip isn't done, but you make a great point. | ||
| This isn't great music. | ||
| But then also, I noticed that they must have someone new behind the board or something like that. | ||
| Because the music is playing way too loud during Alex's intros, and it does not fade out. | ||
| It should start fading out way earlier than it does. | ||
| There's clearly been some turnover in employees. | ||
| This is amateur hour shit. | ||
| 900 years old. | ||
| Notre Dame. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| And it's the big news. | ||
| Been on fire for hours. | ||
| It's a symbol of Christendom on fire. | ||
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Goddammit, Terry, turn the music off! | |
| Of France. | ||
| I think it's emblematic of what we're facing and what we're dealing with. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| So, but that's what you expect. | ||
| You know, that's almost even the best case scenario for Alex's immediate response. | ||
| That this is a symbolic sort of thing. | ||
| This symbolizes the West's fall or something like that. | ||
| Because at least he's not putting any blame on anything. | ||
| I'm surprised he hasn't already said there are eight Muslim terrorists outside of his place starting a fire on Notre Dame while they're staring at him. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| The fact that he's coming in and not screaming about this is even shocking to some extent. | ||
| It's pyrokinesis! | ||
| And I think part of it is because he is really into doing that Bernie impression. | ||
| And he doesn't want to stop. | ||
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He's distracted. | |
| He wants to keep doing... | ||
| You know... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Sometimes you just expect something's going to go a certain way. | ||
| Like, you go to a show, you have a set to do, and someone in the audience is, like, heckling or something, and you're just like, fuck it, I came to do what I'm going to do, I'm not even going to engage with you. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Notre Dame being on fire is kind of a heckle to him. | ||
| I think that that's how he's experiencing it, because the set that he wants to do is fucking full of Bernie impressions. | ||
| How dare the news get in my way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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We sure showed them. | |
| In Cuba, the Christians, and in Russia, I honeymooned there where you could actually get in a jail cell and kick a Christian's eyes out and stomp their face in. | ||
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I did it. | |
| I liked it. | ||
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I'll do it again. | |
| I am superior. | ||
| I am a communist. | ||
| Getting serious. | ||
| Notre Dame is an incredibly famous place. | ||
| I wasn't going to go to Paris. | ||
| It is an Islamic, you know, what hole now? | ||
| An Islamic toilet, literally. | ||
| I would have gone to Notre Dame. | ||
| The hunchback, the whole nine yards, built in 1100 and something. | ||
| I love that the idea there is he's like, Notre Dame is real sad. | ||
| I wanted to go to Paris to see it. | ||
| The hunchback, all that. | ||
| The whole nine yards. | ||
| As if he wanted to meet the hunchback. | ||
| Yeah, well, he was there. | ||
| Well, where is he going to live now? | ||
| There is a sense that he's like, well, I missed my opportunity to meet that hunchback, and that's a real damn shame. | ||
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What? | |
| I heard he had the bell, you know, the whole nine yards. | ||
| Yeah, that's very strange. | ||
| Strange way. | ||
| But you can see here already, this is pretty close after, this is like the next break, he's already started to mention Islam. | ||
| It's Muslim. | ||
| Well, he's not. | ||
| No, it's an Islamic toilet. | ||
| Not necessarily, yes. | ||
| France is. | ||
| He's connecting those two ideas. | ||
| He's anchoring Islam and Notre Dame being on fire in his audience's mind without saying anything overt or even really speculating about that. | ||
| In his next clip he says something kind of fucked up. | ||
| But it's still sort of, like, more restrained than you'd expect Alex to be. | ||
| That sucker is in flames. | ||
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That is too bad. | |
| But it'll just turn into a mosque anyway, so maybe it's better. | ||
| It just totally burns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm not glad this happened, but I tell you, it's better than the Islamicists capturing it. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Like we're in the Crusades. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Saladin is going to... | ||
| Waltz into Notre Dame. | ||
| That's literally what Alex is saying. | ||
| That's kind of what he's thinking, yeah, right? | ||
| Not kind of. | ||
| That's literally what he's saying. | ||
| Better for this to burn than for the Islamicists to take it over and turn it into a mosque. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| That is really fucked up. | ||
| But it does give you a sense of what he thinks the world is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, what the state of things are. | ||
| It is crusade shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But at the same time, in the past when we've seen Alex cover stuff... | ||
| On the day of the Boston bombings, he's screaming it's a false flag. | ||
| On the day of Sandy Hook, he's speculating pretty wildly. | ||
| Here we have on April 15th, he's not doing that much. | ||
| He's fucking saying Islam sucks, which is par for the course. | ||
| That's a part of any episode of his show. | ||
| Notre Dame doesn't have to be on fire for him to say that. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Also, his reaction being very much like... | ||
| Oh, that's a damn shame. | ||
| That is restrained. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, even when he's doing smaller tragedies, he's never expressing any kind of, I don't know, regret or sympathy? | ||
| Like, this is such a strange thing for him to just very detachedly say, Well, what are you going to do? | ||
| Hey, you know what? | ||
| It was beautiful. | ||
| It's a testament to human engineering. | ||
| But, you know, sometimes out with the old and with the new. | ||
| I don't know why, but yeah, you're right. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| Maybe he's tired? | ||
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Yeah, could be. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| He's excited to do the Bernie impression. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's excited to talk to Millie and Caitlin about how they went to a Bernie rally and trying to score points from that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then also he's got Joe Bannister, that tax guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's April 15th. | ||
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It's tax guy. | |
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| So they do a whole thing. | ||
| So it could just be a thing where it's like, I don't have time for this today. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got a full show full of Bernie bashing and tax shit. | ||
| So it could be partially that. | ||
| Like, he's like, why would I give away? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not sure what it is, but there is something going on that is what you're describing, that sort of response is... | ||
| Very unlike him. | ||
| Maybe he's getting his Bernie character rubbing off on him and now he's experiencing some sort of human emotions. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So he also, when Millie and Caitlin are there, they talk about how Alex went on Logan Paul's show. | ||
| And it's because Caitlin was also on Logan Paul's show not too far back. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And it's not really important, anything they say. | ||
| But Alex says this, and I think it's ridiculous. | ||
| I just, I just, I just, I just... | ||
| I didn't realize the guy's been a fan for like 15 years. | ||
| So I don't want to get him in trouble. | ||
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What? | |
| I mean, I think Logan Paul, you can almost say he's like one of my children. | ||
| I didn't realize that. | ||
| So that's the problem. | ||
| One of my bad children, though, you know. | ||
| How old do you think Logan Paul is? | ||
| I have no idea who Logan Paul is. | ||
| He's 24. He's 24? | ||
| I'd like to say he's been listening to his show since he was nine. | ||
| That's irresponsible parenting at best. | ||
| Also, since 2004, what kind of syndication did Alex have in 2004? | ||
| Where's Logan Paul from? | ||
| Northern California, I guess? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Alex has been penetrating into the NorCal market for a long time. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| It's Austin and NorCal, and then it spread like wildfire from there. | ||
| Those are his two big hubs, undoubtedly. | ||
| I find this incredibly difficult to believe. | ||
| And also, I should say, I looked it up, Logan Paul just turned 24, so he's eight or nine listening to Alex. | ||
| If so, I have even more questions about Logan Paul's parents and how irresponsibly they raised this child. | ||
| But, I don't know. | ||
| Logan, Logan, please just answer. | ||
| Please just answer the question, what is 4 plus 9? | ||
| Globalism. | ||
| Globalism! | ||
| So here's the last clip from April 15th. | ||
| And again, this is a demonstration of Alex being uncharacteristically cautious in his coverage of Notre Dame. | ||
| Yeah, well, out of the gates, I don't know how they know, only five hours in, they say a construction fire started. | ||
| Okay, I hope that's true. | ||
| What are they blaming on the yellow vest or something? | ||
| I mean, you never know. | ||
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Well, I'm sure there'll be some parents that are going to be mad at you for asking questions. | |
| So, that's talking to Joe Bannister. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And sure, that idea of, like, what if they blame the yellow vests or something like that, that's still presenting that as a hypothetical. | ||
| That's not saying they are going to. | ||
| That's still within, like, really restrained Alex Jones rhetoric. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the idea of, like, I know he was saying it kind of glibly and dismissively, but, like, they're saying it was an accident. | ||
| Maybe it was. | ||
| Maybe it was. | ||
| Yeah, shouldn't he be screaming about how this is the first step in the globalist plan? | ||
| I expected it. | ||
| Like, they're taking away our monuments to force us towards the future in order to make us remove any kind of connection to our past, and then we'll jump into the AI and teleport ourselves all over the universe. | ||
| Like, isn't that what he should be doing right now? | ||
| Shouldn't he be bringing some heat? | ||
| Or, given all of his rhetoric and his worldview about the idea of clashes of civilization and stuff like that, it should be like, this is... | ||
| Proof of what I've been saying all along. | ||
| And it's not on the 15th. | ||
| Although... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The 16th comes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| He got the Bernie impression out of his system. | ||
| And here's where he's at on April 16th. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this Tuesday, April 16th, 2019 global broadcast. | ||
| I'm your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| Obviously, the tragic fire of a very important historic Christian site in Europe, in what's left of Islamic-occupied France, burned not to the ground but into an empty husk to a great extent. | ||
| And we are seeing the incredible response by European news, U.S. news, even Fox News, of trying to take anyone offline that says it should be investigated for arson. | ||
| Well, under French law, under EU law, under US law, under UK law, under common law, any big fire is investigated. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| And that's why you don't really have to argue publicly for it to be investigated, because it's an automatic process. | ||
| The only people who are saying we should investigate this for arson and that sort of thing are people who have a vested interest behind what they're arguing. | ||
| They're arguing that it was Muslims, not that it should be investigated. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| It's a bad faith investigation is what they're looking for. | ||
| Well, no, it's a bad faith argument that they're making in favor of investigation because they know good and goddamn well that investigation is happening even as they're saying those words. | ||
| It'd be fun if they were instead calling for no investigation. | ||
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Right. | |
| If they were just like, you know what? | ||
| Let's chalk this one up to bad behavior. | ||
| Let's not even worry about it. | ||
| Or they're even imagining that the left or whatever, the globalists, are yelling, don't investigate! | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa! | |
| You know the biggest thing, the biggest fire that could possibly happen in France? | ||
| The one fire! | ||
| I mean, maybe the Arc Triomphe or maybe the Eiffel Tower might be bigger. | ||
| Can you imagine the Eiffel Tower being on fire? | ||
| That would be a crazy visual. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| It would melt from the top down. | ||
| That'd be fascinating. | ||
| It's patently absurd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For this argument to be coming from people who are, I mean, let's be honest, noted Islamophobes who are saying there should be an investigation into this as if there is any voice publicly saying, stop investigating. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| It was an accident. | ||
| Move along. | ||
| Macron comes out and says, guys, I don't think we need to look into this one at all. | ||
| Probably an electrical thing. | ||
| Look over there. | ||
| Let's get out of here. | ||
| We've already got bulldozers in there. | ||
| It's flat now. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
| Somebody buried it. | ||
| Hey, you know, everybody, here's my new puppet. | ||
| He just pulls out a fucking puppet. | ||
| I'm Notre Dame. | ||
| How are you guys? | ||
| Hey, guess what? | ||
| Notre Dame never was not on fire. | ||
| Little do you know. | ||
| And don't look into that. | ||
| Don't look into it. | ||
| No one is fucking saying that. | ||
| What, is he going to throw a smoke bomb down? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's completely absurd. | ||
| But that's the kind of thing that Alex wants the perception to be. | ||
| There are people who are saying, eh, don't look into this. | ||
| Which is bullshit. | ||
| Concept. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's still not really saying that it was arson or whatever. | ||
| He's dancing around that line pretty nicely. | ||
| But he's doing the best he can to insinuate it. | ||
| And in this next clip, he's trying to imply pretty heavily that Muslims were behind the fire. | ||
| France is the main epicenter. | ||
| Thousands of cars burned a month. | ||
| People screaming Allah Akbar and that they're on a jihad. | ||
| The UN reports that there have been, in Europe, 1,063 churches attacked or burned down or defaced that have been reported. | ||
| And most of those are in France. | ||
| And I've got the report here where the UN reports that Christianity is the most persecuted Religion in the world. | ||
| How can you quantify the most persecuted? | ||
| Well, actually, let's go ahead and deal with that. | ||
| I'm interested in finding that out. | ||
| So that statement isn't true, that Alex is making, that idea. | ||
| That was something that Catholic Archbishop Bernadito Azusa said in a speech before the UN that was repeated as a talking point, as if it was something that the UN actually said. | ||
| That isn't to say that there isn't a problem of persecutions of Christians in the world. | ||
| There absolutely is. | ||
| Would not argue that. | ||
| It's just a point that I'm trying to make about how slippery Alex is with the details. | ||
| The UN didn't say that this... | ||
| Catholic Archbishop said it in the UN, and it's been repeated all over blogs and shit. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Interestingly, in June of 2018, the Pew Research Center released a report where they analyzed reported instances of religious harassment from around the world, and they found that Christians were the most harassed, but by a very small margin. | ||
| The report didn't look at the gross number of incidents, only the number of countries in which an incident happened. | ||
| They found that Christians reported incidents in 144 countries in the world, coming in at number one on the list. | ||
| Islam came in at number two with 142 countries. | ||
| So it's pretty close between the two. | ||
| A write-up about the report in The Express mentions another research paper from 2016 that analyzed the sources of Christian persecution in the world, which found that most of it is found in the Asia-Pacific region, and that, quote, nationalist parties and politicians in India, Nepal, the Philippines, and Sri Lanka targeted Christians the most. | ||
| The picture of Christian persecution is a little bit different than people Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not just Saudi Arabia stabbing Christians and Romans making... | ||
| Right, but there is some in the Islamic world, for sure. | ||
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| But it's not a totality of the story. | ||
| In a twist that Alex doesn't want to report, the EU parliament that he hates so much actually put this out in a report released on December 14, 2017. | ||
| They warn that, quote, Christians are currently the religious group most harassed and intimidated in countries throughout the world. | ||
| He can't say that it came from the EU, though, because he would have to explain then why a godless, globalist, demon organization would put something like that in one of their reports. | ||
| So that's the sort of thing that he's talking about there with that Christians are the most persecuted group. | ||
| I wasn't all that curious about that, because we talked about that at some point in the past, and, you know, whatever. | ||
| But I was really curious about that number that Alex is citing, about the 1,063 churches being attacked in Europe in the past year. | ||
| The feeling I had was that it definitely could be a real number. | ||
| Obviously, even in the best of times, some houses of worship are defaced and vandalized. | ||
| It's a gross reality of modern life, and I hate it, regardless of what faith is held by the people who worship them. | ||
| Yeah, let's dick move it. | ||
| But something felt off about it, the way Alex is reporting it. | ||
| Europe is a huge place with a large population, but it just didn't sit right. | ||
| I know he's misleading people about the UN report saying Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world, as we just discussed. | ||
| And I know that he's exaggerating the number of car burnings that happen in France, and he's intentionally not telling his audience that most of them are burned as part of an insurance fraud scheme. | ||
| So there's good reason to suspect that this thing... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wasn't sure. | ||
| So Alex is claiming that this number he's reporting is coming from the UN, which I can tell you right off the bat is not true. | ||
| One thing that presented an immediate challenge here when I was looking into this is that if you try and find out where he's getting this information from, there's a ton of possibilities. | ||
| There's a write-up in the Gatestone Institute that cites that number. | ||
| There's a blog entry on the Christian Broadcasting Network's website. | ||
| There's a report on One News Network. | ||
| There's a post on the Middle East Forum about it. | ||
| That number is all over the place. | ||
| Okay, so this is where it gets misleading. | ||
| UN, of course, to most of us means United Nations, but where he got that number was from UN, his Uncle Nick. | ||
| Oh, that could be. | ||
| So that's why you couldn't find it in any UN official releases. | ||
| It's not Uncle Nick. | ||
| It's Uncle Nick! | ||
| Nope, it's not Santa Claus. | ||
| So those reports that I just mentioned, Christian Broadcasting Network, Gatestone Institute, One News Network, Middle East Forum, plenty of others. | ||
| What do they have in common, Jordan? | ||
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| No, no, no. | ||
| It wouldn't surprise me. | ||
| It wouldn't be too surprising, but that's not the case. | ||
| They're all relying on a single source for reporting their number, and it's not the U.N. It's not. | ||
| It's not the U.N. It's a blog run out of Germany called Politically Incorrect News, or as these websites all abbreviated to, PI News. | ||
| So we're in a three million illegals voted tweet. | ||
| Level of sourcing here. | ||
| From the original post on PI News. | ||
| Quote, a total of 1,063 attacks on Christian churches and symbols were registered in France in 2018. | ||
| Symbols? | ||
| Very different than what Alex is saying. | ||
| Did he add symbols in there? | ||
| Seems like symbols being added in is pretty important. | ||
| But I mean, that's still property damage. | ||
| Yeah, I suppose. | ||
| So whatever. | ||
| But the quote goes on to say, which is 185 more violations than in 2017. | ||
| By comparison, around 100 synagogues and mosques were damaged. | ||
| On a purely factual level, this isn't true. | ||
| But there's a reality here that's worth discussing because it's a reality that right-wing media outlets I mentioned earlier, they're using a reality to misinterpret the story and stoke outrage and foment hatred among their audiences. | ||
| In this PI News blog entry, there's no link to information about this 1,063 attacks number. | ||
| There isn't even an indication of where the number comes from, or even specific information of what sort of attacks were included in this statistic. | ||
| It just says this number of attacks, quote, were registered, but doesn't even say who was doing the register. | ||
| As it turns out, the number comes from a report put out by... | ||
| the French Ministry of the Interior, which does say that there were 1,063 anti-Christian acts in France in 2018. | ||
| This is used to argue that by all these media operations there's a huge wave of anti-Christian attacks and victimization on Christians that is on the rise. | ||
| The problem with that Is that this same release from the French Interior Ministry points out that in 2017, 1,038 anti-Christian acts were recorded, which means that this last year was only a 2% increase. | ||
| That's an increase of 25 incidents, not the 185 increase that PI News was alleging. | ||
| Also, perhaps more importantly, this same report points out that 2018 saw a 74% increase in anti-Semitic incidents, which probably seems like more important as a headline, but strangely is entirely unmentioned in PI News. | ||
| That's really odd. | ||
| You'd think that they would want to provide some context to their readers so they would know, you know, exactly what kind of situation is going on, as opposed to just printing some small fact that would support some sort of attack of their own on other people. | ||
| That seems crazy. | ||
| That seems crazy. | ||
| Nothing in the Interior Ministries report indicates anything about the people who committed these acts. | ||
| But that doesn't stop PI News from saying this. | ||
| Quote, They are accused of hate, hate speech, and racism. | ||
| These people who make the connection between anti-Christian attacks and immigrant imports. | ||
| Immigrants, huh? | ||
| Immigrants. | ||
| Now would probably be a good time to point out that PI News isn't a news outlet, like its name might suggest. | ||
| It's a very overtly anti-Islam propaganda depot, which goes so far as to sell shirts, mugs, and buttons that say, quote, Islamophobic and proud of it. | ||
| The guy who started the blog, Stefan Haar, was quoted as saying that Islam isn't a religion, it's actually a quote, ideology of violence. | ||
| He's very clear in interviews that he doesn't believe that there's any difference between a terrorist who is a Muslim and literally any or all Muslims. | ||
| His website routinely calls Muslims migration garbage, scum, parasites, and pests. | ||
| In 2005, after the Danish newspaper Highlands Posten sparked controversy and protests with their series of editorial cartoons of Mohammed, Haar jumped on the bandwagon and doubled down, posting those cartoons and much more, which caught the attention of a large crowd of monsters and put his blog on the map. | ||
| To quote media critic Stefan Nygmeister, quote, it's an openly racist mob that gathers daily in the P.I. commentary area. | ||
| He goes on to say, quote, P.I. is a forum for defamatory, slanderous, abusive, threatening, inciting, and racist content. | ||
| When confronted about it... | ||
| They have really great recipes, though. | ||
| They could. | ||
| I'm going to be honest with you. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| The cupcakes that they make are out of this world. | ||
| I haven't checked out that section of the website. | ||
| Oh, so good. | ||
| So when confronted about all that, PI founder Stefan Haar claims that he can't be a Nazi because he's pro-Israel. | ||
| And he can't be a racist because Islam isn't a race. | ||
| Regarding this plausible deniability, Negmeister wrote, quote, perhaps this explains the greatest attraction of politically incorrect and a multitude of smaller but similar sites, that the danger of Islam provides people with a fresh, seemingly decent legitimacy for old hatred. | ||
| PI News is a bigotry depot, pure and simple. | ||
| They've been constantly criticized for posting absurd and not true stories to demonize Muslims, like the time they claimed that English banks were no longer allowed to distribute piggy banks because it might offend Islam. | ||
| It's very much like Infowars in this respect, the pattern of just posting whatever they find to reinforce their predetermined position regardless of whether it's true or not. | ||
| The thing is, none of this is to say that the 1063 Anti-Christian Act statistic is incorrect. | ||
| You know, what's important is how a publication like this uses a stat like that. | ||
| The fact that this outlet is a long-standing anti-Islam agitation outlet is kind of important to mention, because in no way does the official reporting suggest that these anti-Christian acts were carried out by Muslims, or even by immigrants. | ||
| That's an interpretation that's being added to a real number by a bigot publication, which is then being mirrored in tons of other outlets who cite PI News as a source. | ||
| Without proving their primary assertions, PI News claims that, quote, two churches were violated every day the past year because they were symbols of the hated infidels from an Islamic point of view. | ||
| This is editorializing. | ||
| In the past week, PI has been pushing insinuation that the Notre Dame fire was Islamic arson, attacking the story from every conceivable angle, with headlines like, quote, where are the Muslim donations for Notre Dame? | ||
| Missing from that article is the fact that Kamal Kaptani, the president of the Council of Mosques of the Rhone, had already come out and said, quote, We call on Muslims in France to show their solidarity by actively participating in the national solidarity campaign that will be launched to find ways to rebuild this place of history of our country and this place of prayer so dear to our Christian brothers. | ||
| I haven't heard a single Muslim voice speaking out against this kind of activity. | ||
| There's nobody... | ||
| Where are the Muslims who are coming out and saying... | ||
| That we shouldn't perform these extremist attacks. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| You're not listening. | ||
| I don't believe that any sort of attack, be it a property crime or assault or even just making threats, is acceptable at all, no matter who the victim or the perpetrator is. | ||
| This isn't an attempt to minimize the real anti-Christian acts that have happened, but I would be remiss to point out that there's a reason that there's a larger number of acts against Christians than there are against Jews or Muslims, and it's really simple. | ||
| Could it be proportion? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It seems like there are more Christians than I was going to say, yeah. | ||
| That's a piece of context that's intentionally absent from all... | ||
| Absent from all of this coverage. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, there are 2,000-something mosques in France and 40,000 churches. | ||
| I can't say with certainty where Alex got his information from, but I can say that he's using it in exactly the same way as PI News is trying to. | ||
| They're putting the same spin on real numbers to lead their audience to a false conclusion. | ||
| What I can say for sure is that Alex has no idea what he's talking about, and he's just making the UN part of this up. | ||
| The numbers came from the French Interior Ministry, and if he did even a minute of research for this stupid show, he would know that. | ||
| You know, the thing about this that strikes me is it's the propaganda laundering. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, so often with the three million illegals voted in this election, tweet. | ||
| It starts out as a tweet. | ||
| All you have to have is some idiot with zero shame, like these PI News guys, who are going to make up some bullshit or lie about some bullshit. | ||
| And that gets laundered by slightly more trustworthy outlets who just cite it as a source, knowing that you're not going to go look at it. | ||
| Oh, we'll see specific examples of that later. | ||
| Yeah, and then it gets laundered again through Drudge Report, who cites these other groups as a source. | ||
| And if you go back through the second source, it's like the Deutsche Bank of lies. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there is laundering going on. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I can trace a couple of specific examples about it that we'll talk about as we go along. | ||
| But in this next clip, Alex talks about how Islam is about attacking churches. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
| And when I cover that, they have mainstream media writing articles saying, Jones is making up that Islam attacks churches. | ||
| It's like saying, Jones is making it up that foxes will try to get in a henhouse and eat chickens. | ||
| Or Jones is making it up that great white sharks like to eat seals. | ||
| Do you understand what he's doing here? | ||
| He's trying to make, in his audience's mind, the connection between these sort of natural predatory moves that these animals do of their very nature. | ||
| He's trying to compare that to Muslims attacking churches as being just a predatory piece of their nature. | ||
| It's their intrinsic character trait. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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It's instinct. | |
| It's been bred into them for eons. | ||
| Without having to overtly say that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is what he's trying to get across to his listeners, which is deeply fucked up. | ||
| So, that's what's going on. | ||
| ISIS has pledged on Palm Sunday and on the days leading up to Easter, as I said, What, a few months ago, I said Islam is attacking churches all over the world, and I said Islam has said on Palm Sunday through Easter they're going to burn up and bomb churches. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| They said just last week we're going to blow up more churches in France. | ||
| ISIS had a public plot to blow up Notre Dame. | ||
| But the talking point has gone out that you don't let them talk about it. | ||
| In fact, just, what, three weeks ago? | ||
| When we saw the Christchurch mosque attacked, I said the media won't cover it when we see churches being firebombed and blown up and shot up or Islamists running over people with cars or trucks screaming Allah Akbar. | ||
| There's a lot of angles to this. | ||
| And before we respond to anything, let's just get to this next clip so Alex can give himself a little bit more of a position. | ||
| And I was just during the break, back in the coffee room, in the kitchen, and there was Fox News saying, well, as soon as all the fires are out, they're going to have arson experts get in and the fire department to find out what happened. | ||
| But we know it's not arson. | ||
| And we know it's not terrorism. | ||
| So he says, there's no investigations been done. | ||
| The government and the fire department say they don't know what did it. | ||
| But it's not Muslims and it's not arsonists. | ||
| Even though the reporter goes on to say, though there was no one in there at the time that the fire started, no renovation going on. | ||
| That is, the renovators weren't in there at the time. | ||
| Now you're going to hear and see this for yourself. | ||
| So this is an attack on logic. | ||
| They've not looked at the evidence. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| The fire was only going for an hour and they said... | ||
| No Islamic terror because Islamic terror doesn't exist. | ||
| I don't think they said that. | ||
| So Alex knows what he's doing here. | ||
| And these last two clips kind of go together in terms of building up what the narrative that he's trying to push is. | ||
| He's playing his role in a stage production that has been run many times in the right-wing media sphere. | ||
| And I think people are only now starting to see how it works. | ||
| The first thing that's important to point out is that the statements being made by French authorities, they weren't saying... | ||
| That the fire wasn't arson and that Islamic terrorism doesn't exist. | ||
| That's Alex creating a straw man to fight with instead of doing any real work. | ||
| Prosecutor Remy Heats was quoted as saying, "Nothing shows that it was an intentional act and that it was, quote, likely accidental." But that was just based on initial information available. | ||
| That wasn't making any kind of definitive statement. | ||
| And Heitz acknowledged that there was an investigation that needed to be done. | ||
| Like when my apartment burned down like six years ago, it was determined to be an accident. | ||
| But that didn't mean that the fire department didn't still do a week-long investigation just in case. | ||
| That's what investigators It's kind of their job. | ||
| By Wednesday, the prosecutor's office had interviewed many of the workers at the site and said, quote, While the prosecutor's office does not rule out any hypothesis, we remind that at this stage, nothing in the investigation highlights a criminal origin. | ||
| Accidental causes remain our privileged lead. | ||
| Investigators were allowed into the building. | ||
| They weren't initially, but they were allowed in once it was deemed safe. | ||
| So they were able to begin their work by late evening on Monday, France time, which is daytime for us. | ||
| As they began their preliminary investigation, they made a statement that the early indications seemed to be pointing towards an accidental start to the fire. | ||
| They didn't say anything like what Alex is claiming they did. | ||
| People on Twitter did. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Probably some pundits on Talking Heads shows did, because they felt that they needed to aggressively remind people that officials had said that there was no indication that this was arson, nor was there any reason to put blame on Muslims or immigrants. | ||
| And you know why they felt the need to do that? | ||
| Because people were going to immediately blame it on Muslims and immigrants, and they were probably going to start some sort of fucking mob immediately if they weren't constantly and aggressively told, please wait, please don't do this. | ||
| not just people, people like Alex. | ||
| On April 15th, the day of the fire, Paul Joseph Watson posted an article on Infowars at the headline, quote, Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris on fire, Oh, God. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| The article was entirely based on one tweet from a guy named Christopher Hale, who tweeted, quote, A Jesuit friend in Paris who works at Notre Dame told me the cathedral staff said the fire was intentionally set. | ||
| If you break down what's going on here, it's Paul Joseph Watson reporting on a tweet posted by someone he doesn't know who is saying that he has an unnamed friend who told him that some other unnamed people told him that the fire wasn't an accident. | ||
| This is not a good basis for reporting this as a possibility. | ||
| This is straight-up gossip at best. | ||
| It also doesn't help that Hale followed up his tweet with another saying, quote, I should note he has zero evidence beyond what... | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| No, you put it in the original tweet. | ||
| Not enough characters. | ||
| You put it in the original tweet. | ||
| Probably enough characters. | ||
| You can't start with the regular tweet being like, everybody panic, we're all gonna die, it's Islam, and then follow it up with, no, I don't know that. | ||
| So even he says, qualify this as an unsubstantiated rumor. | ||
| Unfortunately, if something demonizes Muslims, Infowars is happy to report unsubstantiated rumors. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| Because, make no mistake about this, I'm not just saying this loosely, Paul Joseph Watson was trying to imply that Muslims set Notre Dame on fire. | ||
| He ended his article by saying, quote, also take note of the names of those who were celebrating the fire by reacting with smiley faces on Facebook. | ||
| Which then linked to a video of Muslim names on Facebook accounts apparently posting smiley faces on a stream of the fire, which I guess is a smoking gun, according to Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| To me, I don't care. | ||
| This article is a fucking disgrace. | ||
| Hale deleted his tweet because he realized how it could be misused. | ||
| He didn't believe the fire was arson, and his Jesuit friend didn't believe that either. | ||
| It was just a third-hand piece of gossip he'd heard, but in the wrong hands, that could be very dangerous. | ||
| Unfortunately, the wrong hands found his tweet before he could delete it, and Paul Joseph Watson used it as cover to point the finger at Muslims. | ||
| Can you imagine how frantically, once the fire started, he had to have been frantically searching and researching. | ||
| Refreshing, constantly. | ||
| Absolutely, like, I just need one. | ||
| I just need one tweet saying that this was a Muslim. | ||
| I mean, clearly all it takes is one. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And this tweet didn't even say that it was Muslim. | ||
| No, it didn't. | ||
| It just was enough air. | ||
| It gave enough air for him to put his finger through. | ||
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| Hale got to learn an important lesson. | ||
| Quote, InfoWars wasn't alone on this. | ||
| Multiple fake Twitter accounts created to look like Fox News or CNN posted complete bullshit to try and trick people, like saying that Ilhan Omar's response to the fire was to say, quote, they reap what they sow, or posting videos of Notre Dame on fire with audio edited in of people saying Allah Akbar. | ||
| No. | ||
| The push to blame Muslims for this fire was very strong and involved all the major players of past propaganda campaigns we've seen. | ||
| We talk a lot about this because... | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm sorry, I misunderstood. | ||
| You can make the cover-up argument, but it's not nearly as impactful. | ||
| Right, I misunderstood. | ||
| I thought you meant afterwards. | ||
| Like, yeah, if they get to it first, then it doesn't matter. | ||
| They win either way. | ||
| They prefer not to do the cover-up argument because it's not as emotionally resonant. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| On the same tip, if they do nothing initially and the investigation comes back later with proof that, let's say, ISIS set Notre Dame on fire... | ||
| The visceral emotional response will have worn off on their audience, and it'll be hard to whip them up into the same level of hysteria that they were able to in the moments after an emotionally resonant event. | ||
| It's the same problem with the cover-up argument. | ||
| Yeah, and let's not forget, they won't also be able to claim vindication and being always right forever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If their wild speculation does turn out to be true, by some chance they're like, guess who's an oracle now, Notre Dame? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this is part of the game that's being done, and this is what... | ||
| Alex is engaged in, like his own website. | ||
| I posted this based on a tweet to try and claim that space early on. | ||
| The speculation space. | ||
| That's such fucking... | ||
| You're the worst! | ||
| Right, and then when people respond on Twitter or respond on these talking head shows to this rank speculation that is clearly intentionally designed specifically to point the finger at Muslims, when they respond by saying, hey, look, we don't want to get into that sort of thing because that's fucked up. | ||
| Then Alex would be like, why are you covering this up? | ||
| Why are you afraid of an investigation? | ||
| Why are you so sure it was an accident when in reality it's just a fucking stupid dance that's being played? | ||
| What's so... | ||
| I actually cried yesterday because my girlfriend and I just started... | ||
| She hadn't watched The Twilight Zone. | ||
| And the first four seasons were dropped onto Netflix. | ||
| So I was like, oh shit, yeah, we're going to watch all of The Twilight Zone. | ||
| And when we got to The Monster on Maple Street, do you remember that one? | ||
| That's the one where it's this idyllic little 1950s Eisenhower suburb. | ||
| And all of a sudden, just all the power goes out. | ||
| One of the cars will start. | ||
| And within moments, everybody starts picking at each other. | ||
| And I'm just watching this going like... | ||
| This was 1962-whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That this was recorded, and I'm crying because this is the same fucking shit. | ||
| Like, Twitter turned into that entire place all day, every day. | ||
| And it doesn't have to be. | ||
| It doesn't have to be if people could just respond to things better and not let their sort of autopilot mind. | ||
| And watch The Twilight Zone. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, anytime you want to blame Muslims, watch a Twilight Zone episode. | ||
| That aside, I would be remiss, Jordan, if I didn't point out that we're recording this on Sunday, and late last night, our time, multiple bombs went off in churches and hotels in Sri Lanka. | ||
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Yep. | |
| But as of the time of this recording, many of the details are still developing, so I don't feel comfortable necessarily reporting any of the specifics about it. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Throughout all this last week, Alex has been yelling about how ISIS was going to attack churches, like we heard in that clip just before. | ||
| He said they were going to attack churches on Easter, and that very... | ||
| Well, maybe what ended up happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't know, but that might be. | ||
| Alex might have been right on a technical level about that prediction. | ||
| Time will tell. | ||
| Mainstream outlets are reporting that no group has taken responsibility, and it's unclear who's behind it. | ||
| Complete assholes like Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch... | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Note, one of Anders Breivik's most cited resources in his manifesto are posting things like, quote, reports suggest that suicide bombers might have been identified as dot, dot, dot. | ||
| And then he says people's names who I'm not going to repeat because I have no idea where he's getting this information from. | ||
| And it could possibly be pointing the finger at people who have nothing to do with anything. | ||
| Most, you know, 50-50 at best. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he has some names of people who are ostensibly connected to ISIS. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And look, here's the thing. | ||
| This is awful and a complete tragedy. | ||
| It must be seen as exactly that. | ||
| But if these folks are correct, and this was an ISIS attack, that doesn't change my opinion at all about the perpetrators of the attack. | ||
| Two days ago, I thought ISIS was a horrible, brutal terrorist group that has no place in our society. | ||
| They have a long history of killing civilians and terrorizing populations, and working against that is a valuable goal. | ||
| I still think that today. | ||
| No, but now they did this. | ||
| I'm not saying to minimize this or not care about the bombing in Sri Lanka, but I'm saying that you all knew that ISIS was capable of that a month ago. | ||
| Well, you remember when they put out YouTube videos? | ||
| Cutting people's, like, literally decapitating people. | ||
| I never would have expected this behavior out of those guys. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're a terrorist group. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Which is, yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's not to minimize the damage that they've done, but how can you possibly use this as some sort of... | ||
| Extra amplification of your hatred of ISIS. | ||
| Right, and when more information comes out, whatever the case may be, if it does turn out that it is an attack that was perpetrated by ISIS, I will feel... | ||
| You know, the same, but a little worse about ISIS. | ||
| One more checkmark in the, your guys are bad. | ||
| Now, at this point, as we're recording this on Sunday, InfoWars has posted an article with the sub-headline, quote, Islamic suicide bombers launched attacks on three separate churches. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Those Sri Lankan Christians, as a sizable minority of about 8%, have reported an uptick in persecution and threats coming from Muslims and majority Buddhist population in the country. | ||
| So that is the closest that the Zero Hedge article comes to. | ||
| Alex Jones' copy and paste of it adds the sub-headline, quote, Islamic suicide bombers launched attacks on three separate churches. | ||
| That is not in the source material. | ||
| That is Alex adding that 100%. | ||
| Other than that, the only coverage of that Sri Lankan attack so far on InfoWars is another copy-and-pasted article, this one from Breitbart, about how the Pope denounced the, quote, cruel violence of the attack. | ||
| Sure, that's fair enough. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| I find it kind of silly that Alex would run a story like this when he also spends a ton of his time yelling about how the Pope is involved in a global child sex trafficking and cannibalizing ring, but he's free to run his business how he sees fit. | ||
| The problem here is that the InfoWars article has this sub-headline. | ||
| Quote, over 200 dead by Islamic suicide bombers, hundreds more injured. | ||
| I think you can already guess this, but nothing in the Breitbart story indicated that the attack was carried out by Islamic suicide bombers. | ||
| It's not even a Breitbart story that's published on Breitbart. | ||
| It's just a copy and paste of a report from the Associated Press. | ||
| It's mostly just about how the Pope is praying for the children in Yemen and for peace around the world to replace violence. | ||
| On a very basic level, this is super bad. | ||
| Sure, it could turn out that the people who committed this attack were members of ISIS, and they could even be Muslims. | ||
| But at this point, Alex has no reason to report that, other than to push the narrative. | ||
| He could editorialize something like, quote, I bet this was suicide bombers. | ||
| But he's not doing that. | ||
| He's copy and pasting other people's articles and attaching his conclusions to them. | ||
| Even if his hunch ends up being accurate, his journalistic practices are unacceptable, and he should be ashamed of himself for doing that. | ||
| A situation like this is far too serious to treat with that kind of disrespect and flippancy. | ||
| Is he literally copying and pasting? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, he's not rewriting... | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| These are just reposting on Infowars the text of the articles. | ||
| But he does say at the top, like, the byline is Zero Hedge. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| The byline is Breitbart. | ||
| But yeah, it's just copy and pasted articles. | ||
| I don't know if they have an agreement where he's allowed to do that or if he's doing it without permission. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because that report came out last year that Alex had used all those RT articles without permission. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And RT wasn't super happy about that. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| He could have an arrangement with Zero Hedge. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But it's really, really fucked up that Alex is taking these stories and adding his own sub-headlines to them that have nothing to do with the content of the story that is his source material for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's framing of the story. | ||
| It's inappropriate. | ||
| Isn't that something that Drudge is pretty familiar with? | ||
| Or wasn't that his kind of... | ||
| Opening practice? | ||
| Aggregating, and then he writes his own little headlines that will link to stories. | ||
| Yeah, and without too much time spent focusing on Drudge or researching his practices, I know that he does write his own headlines for these stories, and sometimes they're a bit sensationalized and such, but I don't know if he goes this far. | ||
| I'm not saying he goes that far, but I do see him being something of a progenitor of this type of... | ||
| Ridiculous practice. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it could be. | ||
| It could be that Alex has taken his game and gone much further with it. | ||
| But you see what's going on here. | ||
| You see the initial thrust being a need to control the story. | ||
| Control the story and box it into our narrative. | ||
| A story from the Associated Press. | ||
| That Breitbart has copied, and then Alex has copied from Breitbart, from the copy from the Associated Press, about the Pope praying for the world and for peace, is now turned into a sub-headline of Islamic suicide bombers committed this with no evidence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| The same as a tweet that gets picked up by PI News, that gets picked up by Bud, that gets picked up by and amplifies it with three different... | ||
| That's what Paul Joseph Watson was doing immediately after Notre Dame was caught on fire, and it is their business practice. | ||
| This is how this works. | ||
| But of course, Alex would tell you that there's a cover-up, and that it was arson. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| At this point, when you're told don't look at something before the fires are even out, and you've got Islamic groups saying we're going to target this, and they have before, you've got to then default there's a cover-up. | ||
| But they don't want you to be able to ask questions. | ||
| That's the cardinal sin. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That is absolutely ridiculous. | ||
| No one's telling you, don't investigate. | ||
| Because there are investigators investigating. | ||
| I think people are telling you, Alex, specifically, please don't investigate. | ||
| We would prefer regular people. | ||
| What does the investigation entail for Alex? | ||
| He can't find any evidence. | ||
| Like, he's not going to be able to go into the cathedral and, like, look at... | ||
| He doesn't... | ||
| He's not a fucking fire marshal. | ||
| He doesn't know anything. | ||
| He's wearing a 1940s press pass in his little cap and he walks in there, excuse me, I would like to investigate this fire! | ||
| It's fucking ridiculous. | ||
| The idea... | ||
| Like, sure, you can... | ||
| You can investigate tweets or something. | ||
| No one's going to stop you from that. | ||
| There's the very idea that he's presenting it as anyone is saying stop investigating stuff towards the people who are doing the investigation. | ||
| The French officials or something is nonsense. | ||
| But it's because Alex does see, like we talked about earlier, he does see this as something of a crusade. | ||
| Like there's a modern day crusade going on, as we can hear from him in this next clip. | ||
| I mean, we've got videos where you can look out a high-rise window and see like 400 fires burning. | ||
| And people going, just running around, just mall-off cocktailing. | ||
| Each person has two or three mall-off cocktails. | ||
| In a backpack, each person burns three cars. | ||
| You'll have 500 dudes running around, and they'll just go down street after street, and the domesticated Europeans literally piss themselves. | ||
| And I'm not putting Europeans down. | ||
| It's just they're so domesticated. | ||
| And you hear the video of some in English like, what do we do? | ||
| Is that Bernie? | ||
| Is that Bernie? | ||
| They know to burn Europe, and they're burning the churches. | ||
| That's, you know, just presenting Islam as an invading army, and that's, you know, not good. | ||
| It's not a good way to look at things. | ||
| But the reason that Alex has a cause to worry is the idea that all of these folks are coming in, right? | ||
| All these immigrants and all these people who are unlike him are coming into countries. | ||
| And it would be bad enough if they just had ill will. | ||
| But the reality is, to Alex, they're part of a bigger plan. | ||
| And of course, that plan is being run by Soros. | ||
| And meanwhile, the whole leftist group is funded by George Soros, an actual Nazi collaborator. | ||
| Well, what they're trying to do is to get enough dumb people to go out and attack white folks so white folks start shooting back so they can cause a civil war. | ||
| So, understand, the pawns in this are the minorities they're trying to manipulate. | ||
| And the good news is, you go to any Lepis event, it's 90% white. | ||
| Bunch of professors trying to get blacks and others to riot. | ||
| Remember the documents we got in January of last year? | ||
| Now, 16 months ago. | ||
| Secret internal George Soros documents from Alexander Soros. | ||
| How to have professors dressed up in black in Maryland and other cities attack pre... | ||
| Place places. | ||
| They had agreements with Starbucks, everybody. | ||
| I always wonder why they knock over a trash can, attack Starbucks and McDonald's. | ||
| They have pre-agreements. | ||
| They won't press charges. | ||
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| And they talk about the scripting points. | ||
| They are actors. | ||
| But it's real attacks. | ||
| You'll burn this trash can, you'll attack that. | ||
| This is all just bullshit that he's making up, editorializing on those fake contracts that he found on 4chan. | ||
| This is all just that. | ||
| He's using that completely ludicrous fake document that he found as evidence of this global plan in order to cause minorities to attack white people to cause a civil war. | ||
| This is fucking stupid. | ||
| This show is really bad. | ||
| I'm trying to understand this plan that he's made up. | ||
| You get professors wearing all black. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| And they... | ||
| Knock over trash cans outside of Starbucks. | ||
| Well, because there's an arrangement. | ||
| Because they have a pre-place arrangement. | ||
| Well, because haven't you noticed that they always attack a Starbucks? | ||
| I really haven't. | ||
| Maybe there are always Starbucks everywhere. | ||
| Maybe that's why. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe there's a fucking billion of them. | ||
| Maybe they really just hate Starbucks. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Maybe they're like, you know, locally grown boutique coffee shops. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| It's all just those stupid fake Soros Antifa documents that Harrison Smith found on 4chan and Alex has disgracefully pretended is real. | ||
| Because again, when we talked about it the first time, the very fucking idea that you would make someone sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to be part of a criminal conspiracy in order to overthrow the country and start a civil war is laughable. | ||
| The fucking idea is nonsensical. | ||
| Anybody involved in that kind of a criminal conspiracy would know that it's in no way protected by an NDA. | ||
| And making someone sign an NDA would only leave a paper trail. | ||
| It was weird when Steven Soderbergh left that scene in on Ocean's Eleven where George Clooney had everybody sign an NDA and they had to do the whole thing. | ||
| It was really surprising. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| And these things are the underpinnings of the beliefs that he has that reinforces... | ||
| His ability to say horrible, bigoted things. | ||
| That's why these stupid things are important. | ||
| And you could just laugh them off if they weren't reinforcements and the things that hold up the bigotry, which is a bummer. | ||
| So now here's a fun one. | ||
| Alex gets sidetracked by a fun narrative. | ||
| He said most of his piece about the Notre Dame fire. | ||
| He doesn't talk about it that much. | ||
| It's gross the way he does talk about it on the 16th. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He doesn't talk about it that much. | ||
| Which is sort of a theme of the big news of last week. | ||
| Doesn't really talk about it much. | ||
| Talk about too much stuff too much. | ||
| So thankfully he gets into some other stuff and here's one of them that is just total bullshit. | ||
| What's wrong with this picture right here? | ||
| You're a radio listener. | ||
| Stories posted up on Infowars.com. | ||
| It's from the LA Times. | ||
| Putting American flags on police cars sparks backlash in Laguna Beach. | ||
| Yes, people don't like seeing American flags. | ||
| And the reason they've got to be brought out is they're demonizing the American flag. | ||
| The Democratic Party has officially come out and said, many of their leaders, get rid of it. | ||
| It's a racist, evil symbol. | ||
| Sounds like that. | ||
| Get rid of that flag. | ||
| Sounds like it. | ||
| So, a lot of the reporting on this story, outside of even Alex's stupid show, has been pretty off the mark. | ||
| A lot of it seems to circle around that idea that the flag is seen as an intimidating symbol to immigrants or some shit like that, but that's misreporting. | ||
| From the original story in the LA Times, quote, A decision to repaint Laguna Beach police cars with an image of the American flag running through lettering on the doors will return to the city council Tuesday after some residents deemed it unfit for the artist's community. | ||
| Though most of the comments made by residents in recent months were about the squad car's new aesthetics, online reaction in recent days characterized the debate as pitting flag supporters against flag opponents. | ||
| Mayor Pro Tem Steve Dictorow said Monday the council is simply facing, quote, a very narrow decision about the brightness of the colors. | ||
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But the issue has devolved. | |
| Into a broader national conversation about patriotism. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So this is like they had two graphic designers and one of them was like, let's have a giant American flag with a big eagle on it. | ||
| And the other one was like, let's have a smaller American flag with a smaller eagle on it. | ||
| And they're like, you hate the American flag! | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good work, guys. | ||
| America's great. | ||
| An artist named Carrie Woodburn attended a council meeting where she said that the design scheme looked, quote, aggressive. | ||
| But an important distinction is that she didn't mean the flag was aggressive, but that the design was. | ||
| You just can't even design things! | ||
| After idiots started attacking her and leaving more than 150 messages via phone calls, texts, voicemails, and emails, she explained what she was talking about. | ||
| Quote, I don't really care too much about the design other than what I said. | ||
| It's bad art. | ||
| I'm being attacked for that because the narrative feeds the fire of division, which is what our culture has become. | ||
| So, Jordan, if you're following along here, what's happened is this. | ||
| Laguna Beach commissioned a new design for their cop cars, and it ended up a little bit tacky. | ||
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Bad move. | |
| Mayor Pro Tem, Dick DeRoe, literally said, quote, Clearly the way it looks on the car is not what anyone expected it to look like. | ||
| Expressing that the design looked better on paper than it did on the cars. | ||
| So they put together a council meeting to sort out the artistic issues. | ||
| The fact that they were having a council meeting to reevaluate the car's design was intentionally misrepresented by people like Franklin Graham, the Christian Broadcasting Network, Fox News, and Infowars in order to turn the story into one where the flag is under attack. | ||
| Because the flag was never under attack, when the flag isn't ultimately removed from the cars, all of these outlets get to march around and pretend that they won some super important cult. | ||
| I'm on team climate change. | ||
| We need to go. | ||
| This can't be. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I say congratulations, dumbass patriots. | ||
| You've saved the flag from yet another imaginary threat. | ||
| From what I... | ||
| I understand the customary celebration in their culture for times like these is to make up a Thomas Jefferson quote. | ||
| So I look forward to hearing what they come up with. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So we have the new design for the cars. | ||
| American flag is going to be on there. | ||
| I think we need to take it back, though, to the council because the car is originally painted orange and creamsicle. | ||
| So I don't think we want to put that... | ||
| Wait, is this a Thomas Jefferson quote? | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The only complaint that I saw from primary reporting about the flag itself was from somebody who was making a point that the way that the red, white, and blue of the flag is presented in the letters, ICE in police, the last three letters, are mostly red. | ||
| And so there was a feeling of... | ||
| This aesthetically doesn't feel good. | ||
| The idea that there seems to be a difference between the pole and the ice in the color scheme, which I think I certainly can see what they were saying. | ||
| If you look at the cars, it is pretty glaring that... | ||
| Ice is predominantly... | ||
| It sticks out more in the eye than the police part of it. | ||
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| It doesn't seem like a cohesive word based on the design. | ||
| So even that could be an aesthetic argument, less an argument that the flag shouldn't be there. | ||
| So whatever. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| This is all bullshit. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| I hate that so much. | ||
| That is so fucking bullshit. | ||
| But this is how you fill time. | ||
| Imaginary battles, imaginary victories. | ||
| Because Alex is never wrong and he's very hard to fool. | ||
| Fucking guys, calm it down. | ||
| So here's the next one that he gets to. | ||
| And he's playing a clip of Tucker Carlson talking about Ilhan Omar. | ||
| And it's bad. | ||
| But, mic down. | ||
| Because what Alex says after Tucker Carlson... | ||
| Is worse. | ||
| Is somehow worse. | ||
| God damn it, I hate this place. | ||
| This is really impressive, the one-upsmanship here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's what Omar recently told Vogue Arabia in an interview. | ||
| She described living in the United States as quote, an everyday assault. | ||
| America is so racist and hateful, she says, that she feels, quote, threatened, demonized, and vilified every day. | ||
| It's difficult for her even to go to work. | ||
| In many ways, things were easier growing up in a refugee camp in Kenya, she says. | ||
| Quote, when you're a kid and you're raised in an all-black, all-Muslim environment, nobody really talks to you about your identity. | ||
| You just are. | ||
| There is freedom in knowing that you are accepted. | ||
| Yeah, so why'd you come here? | ||
| To conquer us. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| She doesn't want to assimilate. | ||
| She's been brought here by Soros to piss all over everything. | ||
| So that's really fucked up, man. | ||
| I think it goes without saying what Alex is saying about Representative Omar is incredibly disgusting. | ||
| Him telling his audience that she's here to conquer the country and that Soros is paying her to do so is pretty dangerous talk, particularly given the wildly and aggressively anti-Islam character of his entire show these days. | ||
| He's somehow managing to play this clip of Tucker Carlson being a dick and then... | ||
| in its shittiness. | ||
| But I want to address the propaganda sleight of hand that Tucker is trying to perform in this clip. | ||
| Oh, it's so obvious. | ||
| She never said that America is so racist and hateful that she feels threatened, demonized and vilified every day. | ||
| The article says, quote, it's challenging, she says, of living in President Trump's America, where her status and heritage is constantly criticized. | ||
| Quote, it's an everyday assault. | ||
| Every day, a part of your identity is threatened, demonized and vilified. | ||
| Trump is tapping into an ugly part of our society and freeing its ugliness. | ||
| It's been a challenge to try and figure out how to continue the inclusion, how to show up every day and make sure that people who identify with all the marginalized identities I carry feel represented. | ||
| It's transitioning from the idea of constantly resisting to insisting in upholding the values we share, that this is a society that was built on the idea that you could start anew. | ||
| And what that celebrates is immigrant heritage. | ||
| So you can already see the twisting that he's done Ugh, that's so... | ||
| That's such... | ||
| It's such a deliberately evil act of, like, no matter what you do, no matter what you say, if you say anything, I will find six words, rip it out, and say that you hate America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even if you wrote an entire novel, an entire book about how you love America 100%, if you even mention a fault, it's gonna be like, oh, see how she hates America? | ||
| If you don't love every single part of America, especially the part where every day on Twitter, you're attacked by people for being Muslim. | ||
| I'm not a Muslim. | ||
| No! | ||
| It's pieces of your identity. | ||
| Are assaulted. | ||
| They're threatened, demonized, and vilified. | ||
| These pieces of yourself that you were proud of and are proud of and are a part of you. | ||
| It's a different thing. | ||
| It's very slightly different, but it's importantly different. | ||
| And then the other thing, too, I mean, Tucker says that she sometimes can't go to work or it's hard to go to work. | ||
| In that passage there is what he was misrepresenting. | ||
| She's saying that it's a challenge to try and figure out how to show up every day and make sure that people who identify with all the marginalized identities I carry feel represented. | ||
| It's not a challenge to go to work. | ||
| It's a challenge to figure out how to carry this representation. | ||
| Tucker, do you know what the challenge is? | ||
| Dealing with your bullshit. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| Not getting discouraged by your bullshit and instead showing up to work every day saying, I will fight back against this. | ||
| She never says that things were easier for her growing up in a refugee camp in Kenya. | ||
| She says that all her life prior to coming to America, her identity as a black Muslim woman didn't register to her. | ||
| It just was who she was. | ||
| But then when she came to the United States, she found that there was a tension and some conflict between her identities and society, which she found hard to deal with as a fucking 12-year-old child who had just survived a fucking civil war. | ||
| What she's saying is introspective. | ||
| It's not judgmental and not bitter, and it's completely reasonable. | ||
| Tucker Carlson is absolutely 100% twisting her words and taking everything she said in this article out of context to present the image that Ilhan Omar hates America, thinks that it's a racist place and longs for the days of the refugee camp where everyone around her were black and Muslim. | ||
| The passage in the Vogue article about the discomfort she felt about her identity as a 12-year-old is part of a paragraph that also contains Omar quoting the extreme optimism that her father and grandfather imparted to her after her mother died when she was two years old. | ||
| Quote, today does not determine your tomorrow. | ||
| Her discussion of her experience was a hopeful one, and it was an expression of seeing a future where society and identity aren't at odds with each other. | ||
| And to see Tucker so maliciously twist this into an overtly xenophobic propaganda piece is an absolute disgrace, only surpassed by Alex's commentary on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a one-two combo that I find very discouraging in an Ilyan Omar sense. | ||
| It's a real bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, these people are shitheads. | ||
| I'm interested to know, and it can't be true, but the writers for Tucker Carlson, nobody knows who they are. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, they're listed in the credits, of course. | ||
| Never thought to check in on that. | ||
| But it's like, Tucker Carlson isn't extemporaneously telling all of this stuff. | ||
| He has writers in a room. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if he did a lot of the writing. | ||
| Well, fair. | ||
| It's not like he has anything to do at Daily Caller anymore. | ||
| At least there's a graphic design. | ||
| All of these people are the ones who are... | ||
| Putting this shit out there, and they just get away with it? | ||
| Well, I mean, obviously... | ||
| Like, they're not the face of it. | ||
| Obviously, one of the... | ||
| Like, some sort of writer, some form of writer found this article in Vogue and brought it to the table. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's interesting. | ||
| I mean, if we focused more on Tucker, we would know who those writers are. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| But, I mean, in the same way that I know who fucking Harrison Smith is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder. | ||
| It just seems like a lot of that ostracism that we kind of give towards Tucker Carlson should also be directed towards the people that write for him. | ||
| Yeah, it does appear that in some ways he's kind of just a face man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's the end of the 16th. | ||
| And I wanted to listen to the 17th and see what happened, but I didn't have the time or the interest because on the 18th, Thursday, the Mueller report came out. | ||
| And I knew that in terms of doing this episode for Monday, if we're covering the present day while you were on a fucking beach in Mexico... | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's what I was doing Thursday. | ||
| I wasn't getting fucking shit stolen from me by the TSA. | ||
| That definitely wasn't my Thursday. | ||
| Goddamn fucking Denver. | ||
| Bottle of scotch. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Well, but you know why? | ||
| It's because the Denver airport's full of evil spirits. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| My girlfriend didn't know about the Mustang. | ||
| Lucifer? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then she was like, what are you guys talking about? | ||
| And I was like, okay, you're going to love this story. | ||
| And I gave her the whole long list of internet articles to read about it. | ||
| And for five minutes, she was just going... | ||
| Did you give her a list of the articles about what the actual symbolism of it is? | ||
| About the artist's father running a neon sign? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Just making sure you didn't just go with the conspiracy bullshit. | ||
| No, I didn't give her the conspiracy bullshit because I think the real story is way more fascinating than the conspiracy. | ||
| How did she like the murals? | ||
| She loved them. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She loved him. | ||
| Denver Airport. | ||
| She is an artist. | ||
| We had to go through security twice, though. | ||
| Fuck Denver Airport. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Bunch of bastards. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Stole a bunch of scotch. | ||
| Anyway, you were in fucking Mexico. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But coming back, doing an episode, I know that there's only two things that are super important. | ||
| One is that Notre Dame was on fire. | ||
| And two, the Mueller report came out. | ||
| So those things have to be a part of this. | ||
| So 17th, get bent. | ||
| We're moving on to the 18th. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| In this first clip, Alex makes pretty clear that he hasn't read it, but he knows what's in it. | ||
| So as DrudgeReport.com says, it's Mueller time. | ||
| We have the full report right over here on my desk. | ||
| We've already been scanning through it, but it's really just confirming everything we already knew from the congressional testimony, from the text messages and all the rest of it, that this was a giant Frame up an attempt to take down the duly elected president and overthrow the election of the people. | ||
| So, the cool... | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| I would say that, first of all, we kind of already... | ||
| Like, months ago, we knew what his angle would be. | ||
| You know, like, it's not a surprise. | ||
| Yeah, no, we got this one. | ||
| But actually, the one thing that I take away from this, really, and I think this is probably a little bit surprising, is... | ||
| This is one time where I'm not mad at Alex for having not read it. | ||
| It just came out. | ||
| There's no way he could have read it. | ||
| If I were him, I probably would have had someone fill in and taken an hour or two or whatever to read it and then come on air when I could be conversant in it and know more about it. | ||
| Instead, what he does is just make wild assumptions about it. | ||
| And he doesn't talk about it that much. | ||
| Yeah, he basically did a bar. | ||
| He did a William Barr. | ||
| Yeah, he kind of... | ||
| He's like, it says whatever I wanted it to say. | ||
| Let's not worry about it. | ||
| I'm going to give you a short snip. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| Yeah, and he just uses the fact that it's out. | ||
| To reinforce whatever he wants to say. | ||
| Namely, that is, it's basically a cover-up and the Democrats are the ones who were guilty all along. | ||
| We know it. | ||
| Hillary, Uranium won. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| All the hits. | ||
| Yeah, the Mueller report was always going to say what we said it was going to say. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's not all that interesting, but there are a couple things that do come up in his coverage that I think are interesting in and of themselves, less about his feelings on the report. | ||
| And here's one of them. | ||
| And it's that he needs to find a bunch of different ways to say balls. | ||
| Trump has the deep state, the Democrats, the Rod Rosensteins, the James Comeys, the Andrew McCabes, the Bruce Orr's. | ||
| He has them all by, there's a word for it in Spanish, the cojones, meaning the huevos, meaning the testicles, the short hairs. | ||
| The balls. | ||
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The balls. | |
| He's got them by the balls. | ||
| Just say the balls. | ||
| The cojones. | ||
| Get Lionel out here. | ||
| At least we could have 30 different ones instead of four shitty ones. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty fun. | ||
| The tulips. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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All right. | |
| Bottom of the grapes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Two stones. | ||
| Smooth. | ||
| So what Alex is going to do, in lieu of actually knowing anything about the report, what he's going to do is he's going to play William Barr's press conference in its entirety. | ||
| William Barr's month-old press conference? | ||
| No, the one from the day. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| About the announcement of the actual report. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And so that's fine, but it's interesting his justification for doing it. | ||
| In fact, you know, I think the best thing to do is come back on the other side. | ||
| And just play the press conference end to end with a few stops where I add some context to it. | ||
| That's the best way to do this. | ||
| That's what a regular old smart news show would do. | ||
| That's a weird way to frame it. | ||
| I'm going to play this press conference a comment because that's what a normal smart news show would do. | ||
| Stop trying to be that, Alex. | ||
| You're not it. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| MST3CNN? | ||
| Is that how that usually goes? | ||
| Yeah, you bet. | ||
| You know all those times that you see Brian Stelter playing a video and then yelling at someone to pause it so he can scream about something. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Hey! | |
| Start that over! | ||
| Start that over! | ||
| We're 20 seconds back. | ||
| So Alex doesn't get to playing the press conference because he gets distracted by other things like the fact that the New York Times has written an article about him. | ||
| New York Times wrote a huge fantasy piece about me that I'll cover next hour because it's so illustrative of their delusion. | ||
| Exactly as I've been saying, they say in this, if we can't destroy Trump, the consolation prize is destroying Alex Jones. | ||
| It's a religion of losers that are into hurting America and prosperity. | ||
| They hate America and they hate prosperity. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| This New York Times article that Alex is talking about is a piece about his deposition video. | ||
| The headline is, quote, Alex Jones under oath is an anecdote to the post-truth age. | ||
| I think you already know my feelings about this article already, namely that the premise is a failure, so wherever it goes from there, it doesn't really matter. | ||
| The part about Alex being a consolation prize is this sentence. | ||
| Quote, the hundreds of thousands of views on these videos that have accumulated attest to their appeal as a hashtag resistance consolation prize. | ||
| Maybe it's not a habitually lying president, but at least someone is getting called to account under oath for his role in the post-truthification of American life. | ||
| This isn't talking about destroying Alex. | ||
| It's not even talking about destroying Trump. | ||
| If anything, it's expressing a very understandable desire to see known pathological liars be forced to exist in a space where they cannot lie. | ||
| Of course, the fact that Alex being under oath is ultimately meaningless in a civil deposition, and the fact that he knew that and continued to lie pretty consistently in the deposition should be evidence that if anyone took the Alex deposition as a consolation prize for Trump not being under oath, they're not dealing with reality. | ||
| And that article was actually pretty soft on Alex, so I don't care. | ||
| He's going to get back to complaining about it later. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And we'll see what happens. | ||
| Well, it's got to come back to him sooner or later. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So one of his big complaints about this article, though, at the Times, is that they talk about how Alex got grilled about things that he was making up about Sandy Hook, and that that was delightful. | ||
| And so he makes this proclamation. | ||
| They say that I'm making it up that there were reports of a man in camouflage, tactical gear in the woods that was arrested. | ||
| I went and dug up the newscast that showed. | ||
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Eyes are rolling. | |
| I can do it with everything they say. | ||
| So this is a tease, because Alex is going to defend himself a little bit later about Sandy Hook stuff. | ||
| No. | ||
| And it's not good. | ||
| Alex, no. | ||
| I honestly think that we're about to see things go way off the rails. | ||
| And he's like a moth to a light, man. | ||
| He's just going right into it. | ||
| There's something that happens towards the end of this episode that I never saw coming, and it completely blows my mind. | ||
| It worries me. | ||
| But also as a sketch, I think is hilarious. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Now I'm excited. | ||
| We'll get to that, but Alex gets distracted from this also because he has another news story that he wants to cover. | ||
| Oh, you didn't hear about it? | ||
| Because it got almost no attention. | ||
| A leftist philosophy professor, Mark... | ||
| I don't know how you pronounce this. | ||
| Lamparello... | ||
| That's real tough. | ||
| ...had... | ||
| Two big gas tanks of gasoline, lighter food and lighters, was caught inside with it spilt on the ground inside St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York. | ||
| And then he said to police, well, I was just trying to find gas for my vehicle. | ||
| They have on the surveillance footage, pulling up, getting out of the van, going in with it. | ||
| And of course, his vehicle had plenty of gas. | ||
| If he would have been successful, though, it would be on the news that it was not arson. | ||
| And anyone investigating it, Is a terrorist. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's an assumption. | ||
| But didn't get away with it here. | ||
| And isn't it funny that I had... | ||
| Speculation. | ||
| Leo Zagami, investigative journalist on your stand, he said, I bet it's a devil worshiper or leftist. | ||
| I bet it's a devil worshiper. | ||
| Not just a Muslim. | ||
| He said they've been wanting to burn down all the cathedrals for a while. | ||
| He goes, I expect them to start burning more down. | ||
| Not just a Muslim. | ||
| Oh, and then a leftist philosophy professor. | ||
| Most of them, he scratch out of the surface to Aleister Crowleyites. | ||
| That's a big ritual. | ||
| To burn down a cathedral. | ||
| Leo Zagami is... | ||
| It's a big ritual to burn down a cathedral? | ||
| Leo Zagami is a fucking lunatic. | ||
| He's been on Project Camelot. | ||
| He pretends he's an Illuminati insider. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| But he also is one of Alex's big resources in anti-Catholic narratives about the idea of them having sex trafficking rings of children and stuff like that. | ||
| Why are you now using him as some sort of defending Catholic church narratives? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What's the through line here? | ||
| We're not busy. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| Let's throw it all on the wall. | ||
| Arguably, he's too busy. | ||
| So, the guy that Alex is talking about here, it's a really weird case, actually. | ||
| This guy, Mark Lamprello, is a 37-year-old college professor who's simultaneously also a PhD student at CUNY, pursuing a degree in philosophy. | ||
| I can find no evidence that he's a leftist, as Alex is claiming. | ||
| That seems to just be made up. | ||
| Anybody who's pursuing a degree in philosophy must be a leftist. | ||
| Not true at all. | ||
| Oh, wait, he doesn't have a degree. | ||
| He doesn't have a degree. | ||
| I was going to say, anybody who's going through the proper channels. | ||
| Still not true. | ||
| As someone who is a philosophy minor, I can attest that a lot of them are shitheads. | ||
| And the shithead's on the left and the right. | ||
| Yeah, hey. | ||
| There's a lot of blame. | ||
| Philosophy is not short on shitheads, period. | ||
| There's a lot of fingers to be pointed in a lot of directions. | ||
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| So the fact that he, or the idea that he is on the left or whatever, that might end up being true in the end. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But nothing I can find gives me any indication of that. | ||
| Whatever his politics are, Lamprello was arrested after walking into St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York carrying two gas jugs, two bottles of lighter fluid, and some barbecue lighters. | ||
| You know those long lighters? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I would call this a good catch by the police, who were able to avert what appears to be clearly someone who had bad intentions. | ||
| Lamperllo had been thrown out of the Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart in Newark, New Jersey, just two days prior. | ||
| He caused a scene at the church and refused to leave after repeated requests, ultimately throwing himself on the floor, saying he'd only leave in handcuffs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He arrived at St. Patrick's Cathedral on Wednesday night, and he had suspiciously purchased a one-way ticket to Rome that was leaving from Newark on Thursday. | ||
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| Criminal mastermind. | ||
| He'd also canceled classes he was supposed to teach at Seton Hall, claiming that he was sick. | ||
| Sick of these churches, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Well, he is also a Catholic. | ||
| His family is very Catholic. | ||
| A lot of this is very strange. | ||
| So the investigation is still ongoing. | ||
| It's still in progress. | ||
| It feels pretty safe to say the circumstantial evidence here, it doesn't look good. | ||
| There's a very decent chance he was planning to set fire to that church. | ||
| I was just going to start a barbecue for everybody in the church. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Alex's line about him saying that it was just gas for his... | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That is what he said. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| And it turned out his car was not on empty. | ||
| So all that is, it's weird. | ||
| What his motivation was is anyone's guess at this point, which makes Alex's coverage just worse, just way worse. | ||
| In his article about Mark Lamprello on Infowars.com, they just quote large chunks from a heavy article about him, then say, quote, incidentally, this video went viral Wednesday on Twitter. | ||
| And underneath, they have a completely out of context video of Muslims outside a burning church, which is claimed to have bitten either from 2013 or from August 14th, 2018, depending on which part of the body of the ark. | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| In the article itself? | ||
| They have two possible dates for the video. | ||
| Well, not possible. | ||
| It says that it's both. | ||
| Oh, it says it's both. | ||
| Depending on where you look in the article. | ||
| For a video that is unrelated to this particular incident. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That seems a little bit difficult to believe. | ||
| Kind of like you're trying to drive a conclusion unrelated to the story. | ||
| Yeah, that's difficult to believe. | ||
| The video is posted as a tweet from an account whose name is Stormtrooper with three American flags after it. | ||
| This is an account that's pretty much all just anti-Muslim agitating with frequent... | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| The InfoWars article concludes with a Paul Joseph Watson video about how Muslims were celebrating the Notre Dame fire based pretty much entirely on his crack investigation of Facebook's smiley faces that we talked about a little bit earlier. | ||
| Well, he is an intrepid reporter. | ||
| I will give him. | ||
| My point here is that InfoWars isn't interested in this story about Mark Lamprello. | ||
| They're only interested in using it as a waypoint to transition back to what they want to talk about, namely that Muslims are evil, even though that has literally nothing to do with the story that this article is supposedly about. | ||
| Also, you know how I told you that the InfoWars story about this guy is really just copying and pasting chunks from an article in Heavy? | ||
| Well, if you do go to that heavy article, it includes this passage that, in force, conveniently forgot to mention in their article. | ||
| On Reddit, he, quote, responded to a news story in 2018 about French people disliking President Donald Trump more than Putin, Xi, and Merkel. | ||
| He wrote, quote, all I know is if the French dislike us for something, we must be doing something right. | ||
| They think they're so much more sophisticated and culturally alluring than us, but secretly they're jealous of us and want to be us. | ||
| Never forget that, fellow Americans. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Sounds like a leftist. | ||
| It doesn't sound like a leftist to me. | ||
| Sounds like a demon leftist. | ||
| It really doesn't sound like a leftist. | ||
| Seems like a demon leftist who hates Trump. | ||
| I don't know if there are any leftists I know that would say something along those lines. | ||
| But the idea that the French dislike us, or they dislike Trump, and if the French dislike it, that means we must be right. | ||
| Yeah, usually... | ||
| Very leftist argument. | ||
| Usually we say cheese-eating surrender monkeys ironically. | ||
| It's a fun little switch-em-up. | ||
| Now what's interesting is... | ||
| Absent from any of this coverage where, I mean, this guy went to St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York with lighter fluid and lighters, they pivot and try and talk about these unrelated Muslims. | ||
| fires on churches and stuff like that. | ||
| These insinuations of Muslim guilt. | ||
| And then, of course, they add in the white supremacist fires on black churches, right? | ||
| I'm sure they add those in there. | ||
| It's suspiciously absent from any of the coverage. | ||
| It really seems like it's important. | ||
| They don't talk about at all, either on Alex's show that I've heard or on their website at all, the fact that in the past week, Holden Matthews, a 21-year-old son of a sheriff's deputy, was arrested for setting fire to three historically African... | ||
| in Louisiana. | ||
| Matthews is pled not guilty, but the fire marshal has provided evidence, including cell phone tower records showing that Matthews was at the 30th Okay, that's a bad... | ||
| So he's... | ||
| Boy, we have got to get a higher class of criminal here, Dan. | ||
| That evidence has been presented. | ||
| Sure, innocent until proven guilty, but boy, it don't look good. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| These photos I took of my girlfriend being murdered before the cops got there, I just walked in and I was like, I better have something to show them to know that I didn't do it. | ||
| Not guilty. | ||
| See? | ||
| You, sir? | ||
| Three hate crime charges have also been filed against Matthews. | ||
| As the prosecution has indicated, they have evidence that the arsons were racially motivated. | ||
| A search of InfoWars' website for the name Holden Matthews yielded zero results. | ||
| The same is true of NewsWars and Paul Joseph Watson's new site, Summit.News. | ||
| They have not mentioned this at all. | ||
| You know, they're small operations. | ||
| You just don't have the time to cover all the news. | ||
| There's a lot of other stuff that they didn't cover. | ||
| Why aren't you talking about that? | ||
| Like, in Chicago, there was a cat that got lost. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| We don't have time to cover that. | ||
| Why would we cover these historically black churches being burnt down by a white supremacist? | ||
| I mean, I would argue that a missing cat is slightly less relevant to the topic that all these other articles you're writing about fire and churches and the intersection thereof. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I can see how you would get that. | ||
| It seems like a topic that Alex is inordinately obsessed with right now. | ||
| It seems like this would be something... | ||
| Here's my point. | ||
| I would never expect him to deal with this reasonably or rationally. | ||
| But I would expect him to use the... | ||
| I would expect him to use that as some sort of a way to push his other narratives, and I'm just not seeing that, which is weird. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem like it would be something, because he's always saying that, look, here's what they're going to do. | ||
| They're going to do one of these to blame us. | ||
| That seems like a perfect opportunity for him to be like, hey, see? | ||
| They're planting these white supremacists. | ||
| He's probably on the drugs, and he plays video games and all that stuff. | ||
| And obviously, I can't listen to literally every episode of his show, try as I might. | ||
| So I figure, like, maybe I missed it. | ||
| But if you search his website, there's no articles about him. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| So now, finally, Alex gets to... | ||
| To Barr's press conference. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| That's enough of that. | ||
| Let's get to the press conference. | ||
| I said I would. | ||
| Total vindication of the president and the proof that the FBI leftist groups were funding the fake PP dossier. | ||
| Buzzfeed all of it. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| So, I'm confused. | ||
| Do they even mention Michael Steele? | ||
| What? | ||
| Barr? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| Does he mention the dossier? | ||
| The dirty dossier? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He might have. | ||
| I mean, it comes up in the report. | ||
| Yeah, it comes up in the report. | ||
| I didn't realize that he mentioned it in the press conference. | ||
| So, I don't care for us to listen to too much of Alex licking Trump's boot by proxy as he lavishes praise on William Barr and this press conference about the release of the Mueller report. | ||
| We knew all along, Alex, how he would respond, no matter what was in the report, no matter what action was taken in response to the release of the report. | ||
| If the report found no wrongdoing, we were right all along. | ||
| If the report finds serious wrongdoing, this is a cover-up by the deep-state Clinton globalists. | ||
| There's no real-world outcome that doesn't fit into his narrative, so it's almost pointless to even think about it. | ||
| It's the definition of trying to hold sand slipping through your fingers. | ||
| This idea of like, aha, Alex is... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is the direction he's going. | ||
| There's not a whole lot of content to Alex's response to the Mueller report either, and... | ||
| What is there is just super predictable, and I'm not all that interested in it. | ||
| I kind of feel like covering it is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. | ||
| There's something more important that we could be doing, namely discussing what the hell is Alex thinking supporting William Barr? | ||
| What the fuck is he doing? | ||
| Oh, Dan. | ||
| For one thing... | ||
| Let's get into the history of William Barr, because he's a fun character. | ||
| William Barr was in the CIA from 1973 to 1977. | ||
| That was a pretty fucked up stretch of time to be in the CIA. | ||
| For one thing, Watergate was unfolding all around President Nixon during this stretch, culminating in his resignation. | ||
| On top of that, Seymour Hersh had just released the Family Jewels reports that outlined how the CIA totally assassinated foreign leaders and illegally spied on citizens they thought might be subversives, like members of the Black Panthers, women's rights groups, the Israeli Embassy. | ||
| In response to these revelations being made public, the CIA was in a bit of a strange position and they were facing congressional investigations. | ||
| It's a messed up time to be in the CIA. | ||
| Also, in 1976, while William Barr was at the CIA, George H.W. Bush was named Director of Central Intelligence. | ||
| Interesting how in May 1990, George H.W. Bush appointed William Barr Deputy Attorney General, and then about a year later, full-on Attorney General. | ||
| Oh, and I wonder if something went on around that time for H.W. that William Barr would be... | ||
| During his tenure as attorney... | ||
| Is there a parallel, maybe? | ||
| During his tenure as attorney general, William Barr authored a report titled The Case for More Incarceration, which many have credited as being the inspiration and justification for the mass incarceration state we've seen explode in the decades since. | ||
| The 1992 report is laughable in its arguments, ranging from things like, we shouldn't release people from prison early because some people commit crimes after they're released early, to no one goes to prison for their first crime. | ||
| They're hardened criminals by the time they go in. | ||
| The basic point that Barr is relying on to make his argument is that when rates of incarceration go up, they cause crime to go down. | ||
| The years since 1992 and numerous academic studies have not been kind to this line of thinking. | ||
| In 1992, the U.S. held approximately 600,000 people in state and federal prisons. | ||
| Ten years later, that number was almost one million people higher. | ||
| In all fairness, the upward trend did begin before Barr's report. | ||
| In even more fairness, he still has blood on his hands for how the report was used to expand the prison industrial complex, as one of the sections in his report is about how we need to build more prisons. | ||
| His report also discusses how to pay for these prisons. | ||
| What do you know? | ||
| His solution is literally counter to one of Alex's ostensible, firmly held beliefs. | ||
| Do you mean civil asset forfeiture? | ||
| Oh, you bet. | ||
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| Quote, states should make sure that they have adequate statutory authority for asset forfeiture. | ||
| The Department of Justice has used hundreds of millions of dollars from its Asset Forfeiture Fund and the Office of National Drug Control Policy's Special Forfeiture Fund to support construction of new federal prisons. | ||
| There is true poetic justice in forcing criminals to pay for prisons. | ||
| Except some of them are criminals. | ||
| Poetic justice. | ||
| Except for a lot of that stuff that's taken from... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fun how poetic justice can sometimes just mean injustice. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Often. | ||
| Do you mean evil? | ||
| One of Alex's websites is Prison Planet, and one of the things that he's very concerned about is the prison state. | ||
| Yet one of the main architects of said prison state, who advocated using civil asset forfeiture to pay for the construction of more prisons, is now lauded as a hero to Alex. | ||
| All it takes for the worst of monsters to him to be rehabilitated is for them to bend the knee to Trump. | ||
| Alex Jones is a stupid, cowardly, empty suit over a dress shirt. | ||
| He's the worst. | ||
| He's the worst. | ||
| You shouldn't like William Barr. | ||
| Nobody should like William Barr. | ||
| Except for H.W. He's the only one who should like, well, and all the people that he pardoned. | ||
| Oh, also, interestingly, in his time as H.W.'s Attorney General, William Barr was the one who advised Bush on who to pardon, effectively being instrumental in helping Bush cover up his own involvement in both Iran-Contra and Iraq-Gate. | ||
| This led New York Times writer William Sapphire to give him the honorific title, Cover-Up General Barr. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's almost like there was something in his past that led Trump to choosing him as the Attorney General. | ||
| I know it feels like that, and honestly, I understand that impulse, and I think that there may be something to it, but it is like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I fight back against drawing that sort of conclusion, but man. | ||
| Man, it's too dead on. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| It is one to one. | ||
| It is one to one. | ||
| Yeah, so after that, after he left the Attorney General's office, he started working for a lot of lobbying interests and stuff like that, which is another thing that Alex made about half of his Obama deception documentary about the idea of hiring people who'd worked in lobbying. | ||
| William Barr is now Trump's Attorney General after spending a lot of time in lobbying interests. | ||
| So William Barr's a piece of shit. | ||
| We can gather that from looking over his record, but I thought it might be fun to see what Alex's own website has said about him in the past. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Steve Watson wrote an article on December 10th, 2018, about how Rand Paul was very troubled by Barr being nominated as Attorney General. | ||
| The article quotes Rand Paul as saying, quote, I haven't made a decision about him, but I can tell you, the first things I've learned about him being for more surveillance of Americans is very, very troubling. | ||
| I'm disturbed that he's a big fan of taking people's property, civil asset forfeiture, without a conviction. | ||
| You know what's funny? | ||
| As far as I can tell, William Barr's name has never appeared in an article on InfoWars, NewsWars, or Prison Planet before that 2018 article by Steve Watson. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| And since that point, the articles that have mentioned him completely ignore or dismiss his pre-Trump career. | ||
| The idea that he has all this intense baggage. | ||
| It only appears in this one December 10, 2018 article by Steve Watson. | ||
| And then... | ||
| And you know, those archives go back a long ways. | ||
| Those archives of articles on News Wars, or maybe not News Wars, that's kind of newer, but InfoWars and Prison Planet, you can find stuff from way back. | ||
| Like early 2000s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| And the idea that William Barr's name doesn't come up, the idea that he was so preoccupied and obsessed with things that are very similar to what William Barr advocated for. | ||
| Something about odd bedfellows, I believe. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| I think Thomas Jefferson said something about odd bedfellows. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is presenting this William Barr press conference as being completely exonerating of Trump, of course. | ||
| That's the talking point. | ||
| The bananas. | ||
| But he's also pretending to have some sort of an awareness of it, like he's listened to it already or watched it, which is kind of undermined by his response. | ||
| Listen carefully. | ||
| This is very soon after he starts playing the press conference. | ||
| This made me laugh. | ||
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As the special counsel report makes clear, The Russian government sought to interfere in our election process. | |
| B.S. to the special counsel's thorough investigation. | ||
| B.S. B.S. Don't believe it. | ||
| That gives you, like, if you just listen to that, it kind of gives you a sense of how this goes. | ||
| There's not a ton more other than pointing the finger at Democrats and stuff like that. | ||
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But this part is fun. | |
| This is the proof of election meddling by the Democrats, and of course they used Russians that they paid off that are part of the Soros group that'll tell any lies they're told to, like Trump's in a hotel room, knowing all those hotel rooms are bugged, being pissed on by hookers. | ||
| If he was that type of maniac, he'd never gotten where he is. | ||
| So... | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I think I know a lot of powerful people who have later on turned out to enjoy being peed upon. | ||
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Oh, Jordan! | |
| Yes, Dan! | ||
| On page 239 of the Mueller Report, the dream of the pee tape has been reborn. | ||
| Is that the title of it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is that the title of that chapter? | ||
| I'll tell you, this is the only thing that I really took away from the Mueller report, because the stuff that I'm most interested in is all the stuff that's redacted. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All the stuff that involves, like, Corsi, Ted Malek, Roger Stone, all of his involvement is harm to ongoing matter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's all blacked out. | ||
| So quite honestly, I will come around when Roger's trial starts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And stuff like that. | ||
| But for now, a lot of this is stuff that, you know... | ||
| We'll see what comes of it. | ||
| But as for page 239, nah, nah, nah. | ||
| In that report, there's an indication, not reliant on the Steele dossier, that there are or were compromising tapes in the possession of the Russian government. | ||
| From the report, quote, on October 30th, 2016, Michael Cohen received a text from Russian businessman Georgi Ryskaldase that said, quote, stopped flow of tapes from Russia, but not sure there's anything else, just so you know, dot, dot, dot. | ||
| Giorgi said tapes referred to compromising tapes of Trump rumored to be held by personas associated with Russian real estate conglomerate Crocus Group. | ||
| I'm not saying the pee tape is real. | ||
| I'm just saying that Alex's defense about it just got a whole lot weaker. | ||
| Because that's not the Steele dossier. | ||
| That's text messages that they recovered from Michael Cohen. | ||
| Well, if I remember correctly, though, the theory that they had for that was they were fucking with Michael Cohen. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| The pee tape's real. | ||
| I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly. | ||
| I don't care if they were or not. | ||
| The theory was that those guys were actually just fucking with Michael Cohen. | ||
| That very well may be. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| The dream is alive. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So in this next clip, Alex pauses Barr's press conference to make a wild assertion that I think is indicating that he doesn't really know what he's talking about. | ||
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First, the report details efforts by the Internet Research Agency, a Russian company with close ties to the Russian government, to sow social discord among American voters through disinformation and social media operations. | |
| It's linked up with RT. | ||
| You go watch RT now. | ||
| It's the most leftist stuff I've ever seen in my life, most of the time. | ||
| Unwatchable. | ||
| That is supposedly the influencer with almost no viewers in the U.S.? | ||
| RT? | ||
| RT was okay like five years ago. | ||
| RT is a joke in the United States. | ||
| Unwatchable crap. | ||
| That influenced our election? | ||
| Because that's the same thing, RT, Internet Research Agency, all that crap. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| He's asserting that the IRA is the same thing as RT. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| No, that is insane. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex says that... | ||
| The Mueller report is really just evidence that they tried to get Republicans and conservatives to flip on Trump. | ||
| Like, they tried to bribe them to lie about Trump. | ||
| Is that what the Mueller report did? | ||
| That's all it's proof of. | ||
| I really don't think so. | ||
| That's all it's proof of. | ||
| I think it's actually proof of a lot of other stuff. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Now, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of proof in there of a lot of stuff that I don't think Alex likes. | ||
| It's only proof that they tried to pay Republicans to flip on Trump. | ||
| None of them would. | ||
| Right, no, but I remember reading it. | ||
| But I read it, and there was a lot of proof in there of a lot of other stuff. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Well, if you read it, then see if this squares with your reader. | ||
| I'm going to go, no, preemptively. | ||
| Well, don't be so fucking prejudiced. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Sorry. | ||
| We'll come back with the meat and potatoes where he says 100% Trump and involved in nothing. | ||
| Let's back it up 20 seconds. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| But here's the big takeaway from this. | ||
| They tried to get thousands of Americans to take money. | ||
| We're talking millions of dollars in some cases to sell out, and none of them would do it. | ||
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None of them. | |
| Now, you know, they've been asking Democrats to sell out the country for money. | ||
| They'd say, hell, I don't want money. | ||
| I want to F America. | ||
| America was never great. | ||
| It'll never be great. | ||
| Their religion is hating this country. | ||
| Democrats aren't Americans, folks. | ||
| They aren't. | ||
| They're enemies. | ||
| They're enemies. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| That's really the only reason I kept that clip in, because, first of all, I love rain sound effects. | ||
| I have to fall asleep to thunderstorms every night as a white noise machine. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| So I like Alex talking about how Democrats aren't Americans and they're enemies over weird drizzle. | ||
| But that's what's important. | ||
| That's what's important. | ||
| That's the... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not dehumanizing, because it's still, like, I guess they're people, but they're not of this country. | ||
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Nope. | |
| You don't even need to worry about it. | ||
| They're enemies of the state. | ||
| They're enemies. | ||
| They deserve... | ||
| They're traitors. | ||
| Whatever they get, they get. | ||
| And they have it coming. | ||
| And if that means, you know, you have a shotgun, you know, things happen. | ||
| Things happen. | ||
| Somebody's a good guy, somebody's a bad guy. | ||
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I'm not saying what to do with that shotgun, but you know which guy's a bad guy. | |
| It does. | ||
| I mean, that's not literally what he's saying, but that... | ||
| You know, we know from living long enough and knowing enough history that that's the direction this sort of rhetoric tends to take. | ||
| Tends to go. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't get better. | ||
| Like, it's not like you start from a position of, this group I politically disagree with aren't members of our society, and then you're like, and you know what, two weeks later, I think they're great. | ||
| It tends towards getting worse. | ||
| That sentence never ends with, look, these guys aren't Americans. | ||
| They're our enemies. | ||
| But they've got some pretty good ideas, and I think we should hear them out. | ||
| That's not usually how that goes. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| So, Alex, you know, he's listening to this William Barr thing. | ||
| And the reason he yelled BS at that point earlier... | ||
| Well, it wasn't the Russians. | ||
| It was the Democrats who hired the Russians to lie about it being the Russians. | ||
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No, that's even BS. | |
| Alex does not believe it was the Russians. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| Which he talks about a little bit in this next clip. | ||
| Where's the beef? | ||
| We will see with the Assange prosecution coming up. | ||
| It's in the report. | ||
| Where's the proof that Assange got the stuff from the Russians? | ||
| Because we know it came from people like Snowden in the past and others. | ||
| And Bradley Manning, not the Russians. | ||
| And the download speeds have been looked at forensically. | ||
| And they've confirmed that you couldn't get this over the internet that fast. | ||
| It was gotten on thumb drives. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| It is amazing. | ||
| So this is Alex Jones spreading Seth Rich conspiracies without having to take the risk of saying his name. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's all this is. | ||
| Alex's narrative is that Hillary Clinton is actually the one who was in bed with Russia, and so she sold off all our uranium and all that bullshit. | ||
| So in order for that narrative to stand up at all, he needs to find a way to reject the idea that the GRU or Russian operatives hacked and disseminated her campaign manager and the DNC's email in an effort to aid the Trump campaign. | ||
| Do you understand how stupid that sounds if he's trying to make both of those arguments? | ||
| Sounds really stupid. | ||
| They are very difficult to hold in the same space as thoughts. | ||
| The most professional cognitive dissonancer would still have trouble with that. | ||
| Right, because it would be hard if they're secretly in cahoots, but also... | ||
| They did this against her. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| The way he's done this in the past and made this make sense that it wasn't Russia behind them and she's actually secretly in bed with Russia, being able to maintain those, the way he's done that in the past is to say that Seth Rich leaked the information to WikiLeaks and Hillary killed him because of it. | ||
| In the present day, he's being sued by murder victims' families, so I think he's feeling a little bit cautious about creating more of those situations in his life. | ||
| The Rich family has been pretty clear that they're sick of the bullshit and they don't appreciate people exploiting their son's death, so he's wise to keep his name out of his mouth. | ||
| But that doesn't take away Alex's need for that narrative. | ||
| If that explanation for the provenance of emails goes away, he's left with having to accept that Russia hacked the email of the person that they were working with in order to help the person who was running against her, which is a tough needle to thread for anyone. | ||
| Alex needs the Seth Rich narrative, but he knows that he has to be coy about it, so he just uses the part of it that he just did. | ||
| The idea that download speeds were too fast in order for it to have been a hack. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| You couldn't get this over the internet. | ||
| It had to be a flash drive memory stick download. | ||
| I remember that we live in, what was it? | ||
| That was 2016, right? | ||
| And we didn't have the technology to put things in the air. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Alex is getting this information from William Binney, a man who had a decent run as a legitimate critic of the NSA. | ||
| And the inventor of the Beverage Depot. | ||
| Oh, I know what you're talking about. | ||
| The liquor store in Chicago. | ||
| Took me a second. | ||
| So he had a decent run as a legitimate critic of the NSA, but he began appearing only on right-wing conspiracy shows and eventually became that which he surrounded himself with. | ||
| His credibility is shit. | ||
| My favorite example from our show, in case you've forgotten, was when he came on Alex's show pretending that he had a copy of the classified Devin Nunez memo from the hashtag release the memo craze of 2018, but in reality he had a completely unrelated and very old memo. | ||
| That he was passing off as this real one. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Which should give everyone cause for pause. | ||
| Anyway, Benny is part of a group called the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, or VIPS. | ||
| VIPS. | ||
| It's unclear how many members of this group there are and honestly, who gives a shit? | ||
| They were formed in January 2003, inspired by faulty intelligence that was being used by the Bush administration to go to war in Iraq. | ||
| Their first effort stands up to historical scrutiny quite well. | ||
| A lot of the rest of their work is scattershot at best. | ||
| One of the reasons for that is that their members often don't agree on things. | ||
| One wing of the group will release a memo about something, leaving other members to release dissenting memos. | ||
| It's kind of a mess. | ||
| So they're like The Strokes. | ||
| They had a really great first album around 2000, in the early 2000s. | ||
| I would agree or disagree if I knew anything other than The Strokes' first album. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| I can't speak to it. | ||
| In July 2017, the side of VIPs that Binnie is on released a memo, citing the work of someone who only is known as the forensicator. | ||
| I'm not making that up. | ||
| Is that a Spider-Man villain? | ||
| The forensicator. | ||
| Tuesdays on TNT. | ||
| So this memo argues that there's no way that the DNC files were copied by a hack. | ||
| They had to have been taken by a flash drive because the size of the files and the time it took to copy them were impossible to square with physically possible download speeds. | ||
| And they reported this... | ||
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Says who? | |
| Well, they reported this also as a certainty. | ||
| Says fucking who? | ||
| So naturally this fed the Seth Rich narrative quite well and it gave it the appearance of credibility. | ||
| Here's this group of veteran intelligence professionals saying that it's literally impossible for this to have been a hack. | ||
| So, therefore, Russia didn't do it. | ||
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And they even got the forensicator to sign off? | |
| I mean, case closed. | ||
| Hold on one more time. | ||
| Case closed. | ||
| Hold on one more time. | ||
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What? | |
| I need more sentences to use that. | ||
| And they brought the forensicator in? | ||
| You kidding me? | ||
| How'd they get the forensic? | ||
| Alex started promoting this narrative, as did all of the right-wing con men who were eager to let everyone know that William Benny had their back and it was impossible that Russia hacked those emails. | ||
| Unfortunately, people started to do some examination of the claims of the Vipsma. | ||
| They got the forensicator. | ||
| Cater. | ||
| That's what they did. | ||
| Nathaniel Fritas, an associate fellow at the Berkman Klein Center of Technology at Harvard, did an analysis and found that the memo made some really faulty assumptions. | ||
| He found that while the claim that the download speeds required to copy all this information in the time allotted would be impossible, using commercially available at-home internet connections available from, like, Xfinity... | ||
| But let's say you were at the GRU! | ||
| Those speeds... | ||
| Those speeds, quote, could be achieved by a variety of other digital communications configurations, a high-speed business-grade internet service provider, an intra-office local area network, communications between servers within a commercial cloud provider, and they even said, yes, those speeds would be what you'd get with a flash drive also, but there were other possibilities. | ||
| It would have to have been downloaded in upwards of 10 megabytes per second, Dan. | ||
| We don't have the technology. | ||
| All of these possibilities were just discounted by the VIPs memo because they were working towards the flash drive conclusion as opposed to considering all possibilities, which is a good reason to be suspicious. | ||
| After the memo was used as the basis for an article in The Nation, other members of VIPS felt that they had an obligation to speak up and point out that they didn't agree with the conclusions being put forth. | ||
| These other memos chastised the writer of the original memo for not including any qualifiers, disclaimers, or dissenting views, nor offering any alternative theories, and for presenting their argument as a slam dunk. | ||
| They sum up their feelings thusly. | ||
| Quote, the bottom line, this VIPs memo was hastily written based on a flawed analysis of third-party analyses, the forensicator, and then thrown against the wall waiting to see what would stick. | ||
| There's only one reason to hold onto this impossible download speed argument at this point, after the analysis has been done on it, and the only reason is to continue to spread Seth Rich conspiracies long past their expiration date, and it's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what Alex is doing here. | ||
| Well, he's the liacator. | ||
| Yeah, the non-confirmer. | ||
| That wasn't good. | ||
| Non-confirmer? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, one of the other things that Alex has to wrestle with is the idea that in the Mueller report there are ten instances of Trump pretty clearly obstructing justice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to speak a little on that? | ||
| So, the report... | ||
| I'm not asking you to list them. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm not doing that. | ||
| The report, as I read it, which is... | ||
| One of the interesting things, everything I keep reading about people's takes on it is so all across the board. | ||
| Right. | ||
| People bring a lot of... | ||
| Yeah, their own baggage to it. | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| Eisegesis? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you bring things into the text? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Basically, Mueller concluded that Trump obstructed justice, and he didn't conclude that there was no collusion, because that's not really a thing. | ||
| He concluded that conspiracy would be impossible to prove, because everybody was either lying to him or wouldn't talk to him. | ||
| Or destroyed evidence. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So he didn't clear him of collusion or conspiracy. | ||
| He said, we couldn't prove. | ||
| We were unable to confirm. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is like saying, we were unable to... | ||
| To prove that this mob boss killed everybody because for some reason nobody's testifying and everybody that we did get to testify is dead. | ||
| Isn't that weird? | ||
| Can't convict him there. | ||
| I was looking over Trump's answers to questions in the appendix, whatever, at the bottom towards the end of the report. | ||
| I was like, why did we even do this? | ||
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What's the fucking point? | |
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, investigation is important and stuff like that, because you can find, you know, like these, like text messages. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, emails and stuff that help, like, build more understanding. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just reading over Trump's fucking answers, I was just like, who didn't think that was what's going to happen? | ||
| No kidding! | ||
| Just like, I don't remember anything. | ||
| Like what, he was going to tell the truth? | ||
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Right. | |
| Good God, no. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then as far as the obstruction shit does. | ||
| Ten instances. | ||
| I think it's actually a total of 11, but... | ||
| Based on every kind of prosecutorial review of that section I could find was, if they had two out of those 11, they would get a conviction in two weeks. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Like, that's basically the situation. | ||
| Mueller wrote them a conviction, and he didn't want to actually convict him because it's against the Justice Department's memo. | ||
| It's not like they couldn't do it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| The whole investigation started from the point of, we are not going to... | ||
| We are only going to prove he committed all of these crimes. | ||
| And then Congress, if you were a functioning democracy, would take care of this. | ||
| So yeah, Trump did that shit. | ||
| So there are all these instances of obstruction that are referenced in the report itself. | ||
| And that's tough for Alex to get around. | ||
| Whoops, no it's not. | ||
| Oh, it's not? | ||
| He now moves into the area of obstruction. | ||
| That's when the president says, I'm innocent. | ||
| None of us took money from Russia. | ||
| This is a bunch of crap. | ||
| He would reportedly cuss at people. | ||
| Which is what you do when you're being accused of being a foreign agent. | ||
| When you're Mr. Red, White and Blue, you get pissed off. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Somebody recuses you of being a traitor. | ||
| See how it feels. | ||
| See, a Democrat would love that because they hate America. | ||
| The average Democrat would be like, yeah, of course I hate America. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Those of us that care about the country and are honorable, it gets our blood temperature up. | ||
| So if you care about America, you would obstruct justice. | ||
| I guess that is the implication. | ||
| Let's play that out. | ||
| Let's be a couple Democrats. | ||
| You want to start the scene? | ||
| You're a traitor! | ||
| Well, yeah, of course. | ||
| Well, thank you so much. | ||
| You're a traitor! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Do you want to get a drink? | ||
| At the traitoring hole? | ||
| It would be like the old way that Sean Hannity would answer calls on his radio show. | ||
| A caller would call in and be like, Sean, you're a great American. | ||
| And he'd respond, you're a great American. | ||
| I always loved that so much. | ||
| You're a great American. | ||
| You're a great American. | ||
| You don't know who that person is. | ||
| My favorite parts of the Mueller report are so ridiculous just because it's like... | ||
| Every part of the Mueller report that isn't a direct, proven obstruction of justice is always because it was attempted obstruction of justice. | ||
| Every time Trump would be like, hey... | ||
| Go commit the most obstruction of justice you possibly can. | ||
| Like telling McCann to fire whoever. | ||
| What are you doing keeping notes? | ||
| I'm a lawyer? | ||
| My other lawyers don't keep notes. | ||
| You're a con man? | ||
| Yeah, and there's an important distinction, too, that, like... | ||
| You know, obstruction of justice doesn't require an underlying crime. | ||
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No. | |
| Like, even if you're innocent of the underlying crime, obstructing justice, for whatever reason, is still a crime. | ||
| Even one time it's a crime. | ||
| A lot of times it's a lot of crimes. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
| But, I mean, I guess Trump just swore because he was mad because he's such a patriot. | ||
| Oh, he's such a patriot. | ||
| And the media is lying about him. | ||
| They are. | ||
| And that's why Alex... | ||
| And so is the Mueller report. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But mostly the media covering the Mueller report. | ||
| And that's why Alex has this suggestion. | ||
| Put placards out on your house or on your car or whatever. | ||
| MSM is the enemy. | ||
| Democratic Party is the enemy. | ||
| Democrats didn't used to be the enemy. | ||
| There are still some Democrats that are good people that are just brainwashed. | ||
| But the lockstep Democrats from mid-level to the top are a globalist cult sworn to conquer the nation. | ||
| Well, I mean, cool. | ||
| Then what are you doing? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I mean, you're telling people to put up signs that they're the enemy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're saying that they're sworn to destroy the country. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But let's keep them around. | ||
| Well, there are some of them that are good that are just brainwashed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Yeah, I guess. | ||
| You don't want to... | ||
| Look, you don't want to execute an innocent man on death row, so you make sure that everything's taken care of. | ||
| We have to leave all the Democrats alone because there are a couple of good ones. | ||
| Whatever the case is, this is fucking extreme language. | ||
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| That's pretty irresponsible. | ||
| Yeah, he wants people to die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know... | ||
| I mean, some of the people that he's clearly against, I mean, the media, Democrats, they're people who maybe some of them work for the New York Times. | ||
| And I should tell you this, Alex is about to say something that ain't true. | ||
| There are so many New York Times articles routinely on the front page of the paper or on the front page of the website that I don't even read most of them. | ||
| Now that would be true. | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| Alex saying he doesn't read stuff is true. | ||
| I will always err on the side of truth when he says he didn't read something. | ||
| But based on what he says next, it's clear that he misspoke. | ||
| What he meant to say is there's so many front page stories in the New York Times about me. | ||
| Because you read them and it's like painful. | ||
| Not that they're attacking me, but that they're such liars. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And they're hurt feelers. | ||
| I don't believe that Alex has ever been on the front page of the New York Times. | ||
| Maybe, like when the Sandy Hook lawsuits broke or something like that. | ||
| But I can't imagine... | ||
| What would I say? | ||
| I would say the over-under is three and a half times he's been on the front page. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| And I'd take the under. | ||
| Three and a half seems high. | ||
| That's why I took the under. | ||
| Yeah, I would stick with two and a half. | ||
| If I was going to lay odds on this one, if I was a Vegas betting guy, that's where I would go. | ||
| Over-under is two and a half. | ||
| Actually, I would still take the under on that. | ||
| Somehow, I want to have this over-under be negative one and a half, just in case they put them on the New York Times front page one time and then ripped all of them off. | ||
| I could see a couple times him being on there, though. | ||
| You think? | ||
| Yeah, maybe in a blurb. | ||
| Yeah, certainly not the... | ||
| Oh, he wouldn't be the headline. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, it would be him mentioned on the front page? | ||
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Under the fold? | |
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think page six, they see him a lot with Johnny Depp. | ||
| Alex is seriously exaggerating how often he's on the front page of the fucking New York Times. | ||
| Maybe his wedding was on Notable Weddings? | ||
| Maybe that could have been there? | ||
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Nope. | |
| Because he won't let people know what her name is. | ||
| Keeps her name a secret. | ||
| Wouldn't put that wedding announcement in the fucking globalist New York Times. | ||
| So Alex got a call from the New York Times reporter who wrote this story about his deposition video, I think. | ||
| No, never mind. | ||
| This is about talking about that New York Times article, but the writer who called him, different guy. | ||
| Different guy. | ||
| Different guy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And much like Alex saying that he's on the cover of the New York Times a lot, not true. | ||
| This story also very not true. | ||
| And I was told by a New York Times writer. | ||
| Name him. | ||
| About a year and a half ago, they said, you need to basically come in and join us and turn against Trump. | ||
| You're going to be destroyed. | ||
| This is an off-record conversation, meaning I can't say who told me this. | ||
| What? | ||
| But they said, you're the low-hanging fruit. | ||
| You don't have to agree. | ||
| So they want to get you. | ||
| It's not under oath. | ||
| And they think you're the populace that got him elected so they can destroy you. | ||
| They destroy his base. | ||
| And I go, you mean you attack me? | ||
| I turn against him and my base turns against him. | ||
| And I said, there's one way I'll turn against Trump. | ||
| And that's if he turns against the Republic. | ||
| Point of order. | ||
| Alex has at this point turned on Trump like four times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can put a gun to my head. | ||
| Or up your dirty asshole. | ||
| And I told that son of a bitch, don't you ever call me again. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You tell that New York Times reporter, you son of a bitch. | ||
| You never call me again. | ||
| But please, please call me again. | ||
| I need traffic. | ||
| One of the reasons people say things are off the record and they agree to it is so you don't burn the source. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If part of your conversation is, I hate you and I never want to speak to you again, you would feel free to burn that source, would you not? | ||
| This is how a child deals with off the record. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because you made the salient point, which is you have to agree to both. | ||
| Both parties. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Remember Scaramucci's article where he's like, I thought that was off the record. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Why would you think that? | ||
| Also, a lot of the time, whenever things are off the record, you're not allowed to talk about them, not just who said it. | ||
| So, the idea that he's holding to some sort of journalistic standard is imagined. | ||
| He's making this up. | ||
| Well, maybe he was using a voice modulator, so he couldn't even tell who the person was. | ||
| And the first thing that the guy said was, it's off the record. | ||
| I am New York Times robot. | ||
| He was just a guy with a stoma. | ||
| And he goes on to say, That's a consolation prize to see Jones, even though we can't get Trump. | ||
| Control of consolation prize. | ||
| I'm like this symbolic simulation of victory for the horrible, miscreant left with one of their people just caught trying to firebomb St. Patrick Cathedral in New York yesterday. | ||
| One of their people? | ||
| I mean, they're so mad they don't control reality anymore, they don't know what to do. | ||
| There's no evidence that that was one of the left One of their people. | ||
| One of their people. | ||
| There's no indications of that. | ||
| Alex is just making shit up. | ||
| Hey, anybody who would do something like that is one of their people, right? | ||
| That's one of those classical logical fallacies. | ||
| Fuck off with that nonsense. | ||
| So, the reason that Alex is talking about this article, what's really stuck in his craw, is the idea that the article is pointing out that under oath, in the deposition, he can't... | ||
| Provide any evidence of the claims that he was making about Sandy Hook, particularly the incident of him talking about there being someone arrested in SWAT gear in the woods. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has decided that he can prove those things. | ||
| No, no, Alex, no. | ||
| This next clip... | ||
| Goddammit, Barnes, get in here! | ||
| Where are you? | ||
| This next clip is crazy. | ||
| And as I said in that position, yeah, I think there still could be a second shooter at large. | ||
| There's something going on here. | ||
| It took them six years to put a report out on this. | ||
| It's not illegal to question things. | ||
| So there's something big in Sandy Hook. | ||
| So here they are in this article saying, Jones caught making up Man in the Woods. | ||
| Well, here's a few of the newscast clips, then I'll show you a bunch of newspapers. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| So he just ends up playing the clips that he based his conspiracy on the first time around. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's really interesting. | ||
| We'll get into some of the dynamics of what's going on here. | ||
| It's incredibly fucked up. | ||
| But the thing that he's talking about, there's something up here, is that he has now found out that Chris Murphy and Blumenthal, they have, like, one of them ran... | ||
| The comedy duo Murphy and Blumenthal? | ||
| Classic Vaudevillian duo. | ||
| Murphy apparently ran on Sandy Hook when he got into office. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's what Alex is alleging. | ||
| That's what he's found? | ||
| And then Blumenthal is like related to somebody who works at a business of some sort and it's a conspiracy. | ||
| Smoking gun. | ||
| So Alex is saying that these two are attacking him because of Sandy Hook because there's some grander conspiracy but also Alex needs you to know that there's a second shooter that he believes is still on the lam. | ||
| Okay, so is he just trying to add, like, amicus briefs from different new plaintiffs? | ||
| Is that what he's going for? | ||
| I'm not sure, but... | ||
| Is he trying to get a class-action lawsuit? | ||
| Can you have a class-action defamation lawsuit? | ||
| I think he could, but then I think, you know, he's in for a penny, in for a pound, and he's already in the middle of this lawsuit, so why not make the persecution even greater? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Why not turn it into a thing where everyone is against it? | ||
| I don't know, because it's still not, like, what he's doing isn't illegal. | ||
| Like, it's not defamation to say that he still believes that there's a second shooter that's still on the loose. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| Do you know the KFC Double Down Sandwich is not illegal, but it's fucking stupid. | ||
| So Alex plays these videos, and then he gets to some news articles that justify his, like, this is why I'm questioning things. | ||
| And we'll see how good these articles are. | ||
| Terror attacks and drills. | ||
| Coincidence or conspiracy? | ||
| This article gets into all the drills that were running that day. | ||
| So this is an article on Skeptoid, which is a blog post that Alex is trying to use to justify his arguments that there was a drill that overlapped with the shooting at Sandy Hook. | ||
| The article does point out that there was a shooter drill in Bridgeport, Connecticut that day, but that's a completely different city. | ||
| Also, Alex might not want to draw people's attention to this article, as it very clearly says the idea that attacks and drills are related. | ||
| It says this of that, quote, This entire theory seems to have caught fire thanks to a post from Alex Jones acolyte Mike Adams trying to turn a tragedy into a conspiracy. | ||
| It goes on to say, It goes on to say, While the headline that Alex reads seems to look good for Alex's point, the body of the article is actually a condemnation of his worldview and the way he and his team try and exploit tragedies. | ||
| I feel like this is a theme on our show. | ||
| He really needs to read the things he brings up. | ||
| People really gotta start reading. | ||
| Can't skim. | ||
| That's why he's a stupid fuck. | ||
| Can't skim, man. | ||
| So he comes up with another piece of information from, you know, right around the months after Sandy Hook. | ||
| And it's not good either. | ||
| Sandy Hook DA cites potential suspects fears witness safety. | ||
| So it says we've got to keep everything secret. | ||
| This is months after it happened because there might be another shooter. | ||
| That's three months later. | ||
| February of the next year. | ||
| So we're saying, hey, there may be more shooters. | ||
| Well, the DA said that. | ||
| How about you sue him? | ||
| See, what they don't want is you looking into this. | ||
| And I don't know what's going on here, but this is getting crazy. | ||
| Something's up. | ||
| He's spreading fucking seeds. | ||
| This isn't suspicious at all, this article that Alex is pointing to. | ||
| This was, you know, the attack, the shooting. | ||
| It was an attack where 28 people were murdered at a school. | ||
| This article came out on February 5th, 2013, only 54 days after the shooting. | ||
| So it's very reasonable to believe that the investigation was still very much ongoing at that point. | ||
| As to the idea that the DA thought there were multiple suspects, that's not totally accurate based on the article. | ||
| The article goes on to, quote, Public Affairs Officer Lieutenant Paul Vance as saying, quote, As I said, we're going to look at every single thing, every piece of material, and we'll take it from there. | ||
| The article explains that the DA was concerned about unsealing warrants related to the case because it would, quote, identify persons cooperating with the investigation, which could be dangerous for them. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| What if their names got out and some crazy conspiracy website would just go and, like, give their names out and maybe publish their addresses and make sure people thought that they were... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That would never happen. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| He didn't specifically say that it was dangerous because the secret other shooter would get them. | ||
| He was saying just generally it could be a threat to their safety. | ||
| And as you're pointing out, by February 5th, 2013, the conspiracies about Sandy Hook were already running full steam ahead. | ||
| This isn't the basis for a conspiracy theory, and honestly, the conspiracy theories flying around are pretty strong arguments for not releasing those people's names, as you very easily were able to suss out. | ||
| Now, the idea they do talk about in the article, the idea that there could be other possible suspects, but it's not necessarily even clear if they're talking about other suspects in the shooting or possibly an investigation into where these guns came from. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| The idea of online contacts he could have had. | ||
| Suspect doesn't mean suspect in the shooting, necessarily. | ||
| More suspect of a larger investigation is another entirely sensible interpretation of that article. | ||
| Yeah, there are plenty of times that we've seen where the shooter was the only crime. | ||
| They got their guns legally, they got all that stuff legally. | ||
| It was just the one crime occurred. | ||
| But there are also tons of other times where that one crime was the culmination of 15 other crimes that had to happen to get there. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So, at this point, Alex plays that video of the helicopter footage of the three cops running together that appears to be a chase because one of them is dressed differently than the other two. | ||
| I thought he was just going to show the footage from Rocky IV where Rocky and Apollo Creed were running on the beach. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's in the fourth hour. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| That's once Nick Bagich takes over and plays Rocky in its entirety. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| I would watch that. | ||
| So Alex plays this video, and it's proof for him. | ||
| All right, so if you're a TV viewer, you can see all this. | ||
| Everyone I talk to goes, yeah, I remember on the news. | ||
| We've even got a low-res. | ||
| We're digging through all our archives because we taped it that day. | ||
| We have an HD one where you can totally see the guy, black shirt, camo. | ||
| He's in the grass. | ||
| You can see it in the footage we just showed with the three cops with guns out on him. | ||
| They're wearing blue, so they stand out, but he blends into the grass. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| They don't have guns on him. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| You can tell from any version of the video that at least one of them is casually walking around. | ||
| They don't have guns drawn on this guy at all. | ||
| And we already talked about what's going on. | ||
| Ad nauseum. | ||
| But here's the... | ||
| Jordan, there's something really weird happening. | ||
| And I'm not sure how I feel about it. | ||
| With Sandy Hook? | ||
| No. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| With Alex. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| On the one hand, I think this is kind of funny, but on the other hand, it's pretty scary about what the consequences that could come of this could be. | ||
| Based on Alex's behavior over the past weeks, I'm pretty convinced that Alex Jones in 2019 is confused about what happened in late 2012 and early 2013. | ||
| I get the sense that he doesn't remember the arguments he made back then about Sandy Hook, most likely because he just can't get himself to give a shit. | ||
| Now... | ||
| Because he was confronted about making up stuff about SWAT members in the woods in his deposition, he feels compelled to go back and confirm to himself that he wasn't just making that up, which on its own is a pretty good impulse, I think. | ||
| Go check on yourself. | ||
| So he goes back, and he finds the video of the three cops running in the woods that looks like a chase. | ||
| He finds this video of a man saying he saw the police walking a guy in camo pants to a squad car. | ||
| He finds these quote-unquote anomalies that led him down that road to begin with. | ||
| All of these things are examples of pieces of content that were taken out of context and spun into conspiracy. | ||
| The helicopter footage of the three cops doesn't show an arrest. | ||
| That was very clearly a misunderstanding. | ||
| The man in camo pants was not the same person and also has been explained. | ||
| A responsible way for Alex to cover this would be to show these things and explain to his audience how he and so many others had got it wrong. | ||
| It wouldn't jeopardize his legal case right now at all, and it would still achieve his desired result of making the argument that he wasn't making things up. | ||
| The deposition was wrong about him. | ||
| He had something that he was basing these things on. | ||
| He was just responding to people who they got it wrong. | ||
| That would be totally fine. | ||
| It wouldn't be humiliating at all. | ||
| It would be a sensible way to present this like, these people in this New York Times article are lying about me. | ||
| Now, I was wrong about the conclusions that we were led to, but it was based on this, this, and this. | ||
| But Alex isn't doing that. | ||
| He can't do it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I get the sense that he's having his mind blown all over again by these things. | ||
| I didn't consider that. | ||
| I didn't consider that this is just a restarting of the cycle for him. | ||
| I think it might be. | ||
| This is just the start of all over again. | ||
| You can hear him saying that he still thinks that there's a second shooter and that something is up there. | ||
| I just worry that what's happening is that Alex watched this helicopter video and his response wasn't, we got that wrong, but our intentions were good. | ||
| It's, holy shit, it was fake. | ||
| It was fake. | ||
| I need to retract my apology from a couple of months ago. | ||
| Oh my god, I was wrong to stop talking about this. | ||
| I think because he doesn't care, he's forgotten that these things are all explained already because there's an energy behind him talking about this helicopter footage. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| There's an energy behind him talking about this DA and the multiple shooters argument. | ||
| There's an energy behind the drills and attacks confluence argument that he's making. | ||
| That I'm worried, I don't know if he's going to, but I'm worried this is going to transition into a new, much like the pee tape is reborn, Alex's Sandy Hook denial is going to. | ||
| And he also found Blumenthal and Murray in there. | ||
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Murphy. | |
| Murphy. | ||
| So that means that he's still looking for more evidence that it was a false flag. | ||
| Or he's trying to find a new way to do the same stuff. | ||
| Present himself as intrepid and brave and not cross the line of outright libel. | ||
| He is an insane person. | ||
| Yeah, this is dumb. | ||
| This is a bad idea. | ||
| But it's really weird because when I heard him first say much earlier in the episode that I found all the stuff that proves that I wasn't lying and so I was like, you're never going to play that shit. | ||
| And then he plays it and I'm like... | ||
| Wow, you're not explaining why you were wrong about this. | ||
| Man. | ||
| You're playing this stuff, and it seems to be reinforcing an argument that you were not only right to question things... | ||
| But there's a cover-up. | ||
| That there's still something going on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And in fact, you might start saying that the Sandy Hook parents suing you is the crisis actor suing you. | ||
| Well, I think he... | ||
| I don't think that would be wise. | ||
| I don't think it would be wise either. | ||
| But he is already implying that the lawsuits are an attack on him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Probably from Blumenthal and Murphy, who are involved in this cover-up of the second shooter at Sandy Hook. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm worried that that's where this is going to go. | ||
| I hear him talking, and then Barnes, I see him on his bed just throwing $100 bills in the air, lighting a cigar with a burning one. | ||
| Benjamin, like, this is insane. | ||
| It's a total mess. | ||
| Oh my god, what an idiot. | ||
| So Alex starts taking calls, and he wants to take calls on the Mueller report, and he's not getting a lot of real good stuff. | ||
| It just came out. | ||
| It's tough for his listeners. | ||
| I'm not saying they read. | ||
| As poorly as Alex. | ||
| I was going to say at all. | ||
| I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt in to say that they could read. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| If possible. | ||
| Well, we got one caller, at least, who was, who'd read some. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
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Well, that's nice. | |
| He was talking about, like, you know, I know that, you know... | ||
| You know, Trump is maligned here and what have you, but you're being delusional if you're looking at this report and you're not imagining Obama's name in there instead of Trump and how fucking furious everyone on your side would be. | ||
| And Alex just can't handle that, so he's like, well, you know, it's not obstruction. | ||
| He just did these things because he was mad because of people calling them names. | ||
| Gotta go. | ||
| I'm so angry at how effective that line has become of just him. | ||
| Well, look, it wasn't obstruction. | ||
| He was just mad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And people are repeating that like that's an okay thing. | ||
| Well, the caller wasn't repeating that. | ||
| No, no, exactly. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| I'm seeing a lot of people repeat that with Barr. | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| Like with Barr being like, hey, look, what we need to know in advance is that, yes, maybe he obstructed justice, but it was out of frustration. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was angry. | ||
| He was having a tantrum. | ||
| Yeah, he was mad. | ||
| Everybody knows that it's legal to commit crimes when you're angry and frustrated with people. | ||
| He should have just had a Snickers. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| He was hungry. | ||
| He was hangry. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| So, Alex doesn't have much time for that guy who calls him. | ||
| But he doesn't hang up on him as quickly as I thought he would. | ||
| But it was a very short call. | ||
| And he gets another call, and this one he is way more into. | ||
| And this lady is nuts. | ||
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Democrats are the demon party. | |
| I renamed them the demon party because they hate President Trump. | ||
| I'll say this. | ||
| They have no bottom now. | ||
| I mean, I used to be 50-50 20 years ago. | ||
| I wasn't really Republican or Democrat. | ||
| Some stuff Democrats did was good. | ||
| But, I mean, the Democrats now have converted to pure evil. | ||
| I mean, it's just true. | ||
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Well, you know, Alex, God knows what they're doing. | |
| There's a retired firefighter that I watch on YouTube. | ||
| He's from Florida. | ||
| His name is, oh, man, Mark Taylor. | ||
| If you've never heard of him, look him up. | ||
| No, I've heard of him. | ||
| Really good guy. | ||
| We want to get him on. | ||
| Oh, interesting response. | ||
| Do you know who Mark Taylor is? | ||
| I do not know who Mark Taylor is. | ||
| Well, now you know that he's a retired firefighter. | ||
| I don't follow along with a lot of retired firefighters' YouTube channels. | ||
| Mark Taylor is a complete lunatic. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And he's a frequent guest on The Jim Banker Show. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| He's probably most notable for releasing a movie called The Trump Prophecy in 2018. | ||
| The movie was based on a book he wrote about how God told him back in 2011 that Trump was going to become president and that his election was ordained by God. | ||
| Interestingly, this book came out on August 23, 2017, and I can find no evidence he ever shared this prophecy with the world until after it had come true, which is not suspicious at all. | ||
| Well, you don't want to share prophecies with people. | ||
| It's like your birthday wish. | ||
| If you tell people the prophecy, then it won't come true. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| Taylor claims his prophecy that Trump would become president was confirmed to him when he heard a train horn during Antonin Scalia's funeral. | ||
| Quote, if you go back to Antonin Scalia's funeral, when they were carrying his body up the steps, there were two signs that were given by God that the confirmation of Merrick Garland was not going to happen. | ||
| The two signs that were given, there was a reverence there. | ||
| It was very quiet, and there was a siren in the background at the bottom of the steps. | ||
| Well, when they got to the top of the steps, the siren fades away, and all of a sudden you hear this enormous train horn. | ||
| And what the Lord was saying was, don't fear, Amer. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| You know, IQ... | ||
| Obtained enlightenment when a crow dropped a pebble into the lake. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Not the same thing. | ||
| His YouTube channel, Mark Taylor's YouTube channel that this lady apparently watches is only five months old and appears to be mostly about QAnon, which is great. | ||
| He's legitimately a completely insane QAnon guy. | ||
| Just last month he released this prophecy. | ||
| The Lord's been telling me that there's another one coming, another Trump coming. | ||
| I had a dream this morning, and in the dream I saw Donald Trump Jr. | ||
| It was just a really quick snippet of it, but I knew there was an emphasis on Jr. | ||
| And then I thought, hmm, JFK Jr. | ||
| I knew it had something to do with JFK Jr. | ||
| And he goes on to say that Donald Trump Jr. and JFK Jr. are going to run together. | ||
| That cannot be true. | ||
| The big problem is that JFK Jr. died in 1999, but that's not a problem for the Q crowd because they believe he faked his death. | ||
| Another big problem for the DJT situation going on here is that even in Mueller's report, Donald Trump Jr. is not investigated and indicted simply because he's probably too dumb to have committed the crime. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good badge to wear. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's what, Marine Le Pen being legally a fascist. | ||
| You know, it's like, according to the FBI, you are too stupid to commit crime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| An article on Christian Broadcasting Network's website about the Trump prophecy includes a quote from Rick Eldridge, the producer of the movie. | ||
| Quote, we have such a divided nation right now, so I hope this film can be a way to maybe point towards healing. | ||
| Personally, I would suggest that making a movie about how an unpopular leader is actually in office because of the will of God and that people who are against him are enemies of God would be the last thing you'd want to do if you were interested in healing. | ||
| That's something you might do if you were interested in installing a theocracy, which is totally what people like Mark Taylor and Jim Baker actively argue for. | ||
| Which is healing. | ||
| Well, once everybody who has been hurt is dead, then technically you have been healed. | ||
| Well, insanely, Jordan. | ||
| Yes? | ||
| The Trump prophecy had a budget of $2 million. | ||
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What? | |
| What? | ||
| $2 million budget. | ||
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What? | |
| How? | ||
| How? | ||
| I don't know where it is. | ||
| It's all on the screen. | ||
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What? | |
| I'd like now for you to try and guess how much money it made in theaters. | ||
| Well, are we talking gross or net? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because if we're going to go with net, I'm going to say negative $2 million. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, it made $670,000. | ||
| That's way more than it should have! | ||
| Well, but Christian movies have an elevated bottom of how much. | ||
| All those Carmen the Champion movies and stuff like that. | ||
| Just because they're so desperate. | ||
| They just want anything. | ||
| And there will be buses of church groups that will go and see those movies. | ||
| There's a built-in captive audience. | ||
| Well, I think captive is a good way of putting it. | ||
| There's just a guaranteed amount of money you're going to make. | ||
| $670,000 seems high for a low-rent shit pile like this, but you've got an audience. | ||
| We could make a movie for like $15,000. | ||
| At most, and make 670 grand. | ||
| No, we couldn't. | ||
| Yes, we could. | ||
| Because I'm not doing it. | ||
| So also in September 2018, Mark Taylor appeared on another internet show that doesn't merit naming. | ||
| And he said, quote, I do think that they're going to declare martial law at some point. | ||
| I view martial law as a great thing under this administration. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| They were intending on using martial law to round people up and put them in these concentration camps. | ||
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Stop it! | |
| That was their whole plan all along. | ||
| But under this administration, it's now to round them up. | ||
| I am... | ||
| So excited that people like him exist. | ||
| And they're the same as Alex. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| They appear to be different because he calls himself a prophet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what does he do with this supposed prophecy? | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Argue that Trump is the leader that will lead us out of the desert? | ||
| You know, all that sort of shit? | ||
| What are his political beliefs? | ||
| Well, this global world government that's demonic is going to put us in FEMA camps to install their power, but now that's actually really good because we can do it to them. | ||
| Yeah, that one's... | ||
| They walk similar paths. | ||
| That one's a little too on the nose. | ||
| They walk similar paths. | ||
| Yeah, you're absolutely right. | ||
| So now here's the last clip where Alex... | ||
| I mean, I felt like Alex saying, yeah, I like Mark Taylor. | ||
| He's a good guy or whatever. | ||
| I thought that was him just being dismissive to this caller. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he usually is kind of like... | ||
| Yeah, we're going to get him on. | ||
| You move on, get out of here. | ||
| Don't recommend other people to me. | ||
| This is my show. | ||
| What's the point of fighting? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then Alex said this, and I'm like, well, maybe Alex does fucking like this weird fake Christian prophet. | ||
| I pledge this, and I prophesy this. | ||
| Before humanity is destroyed, Jack Dorsey will be destroyed. | ||
| And I think Jack Dorsey should get struck by God's thunderbolt like Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus. | ||
| And I think you're going to see a lot of conversions like that very soon. | ||
| Anything else? | ||
| Alex is making a prophecy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That there's going to be a road to Damascus moment for... | ||
| Jack of Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, she didn't say he was a prophet, did she? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| So he just made that jump to prophecy on his own? | ||
| Or he knows who Mark Taylor is? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And knows that Mark Taylor is in the prophecy game, so he's jumping in on that prophecy game. | ||
| I mean, that's a possibility. | ||
| I mean, she was talking a lot about demons and stuff like that, so it might have got him in a religious mood. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, but either way, it doesn't really matter. | ||
| It just illustrates these fucking worlds are so connected. | ||
| So fucked up. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I hate being gaslit like this so hard. | ||
| Like, the idea of Alex saying that the Democrats have no bottom now is just like, fuck you. | ||
| I can't. | ||
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Our bottom is so weak. | |
| It's weak-willed. | ||
| The president committed all the crimes, and the Democratic leadership is like, whoa, whoa, hold on now, guys. | ||
| Let's let him... | ||
| Run roughshod over the country for the next 18 months, and then we'll do something. | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| You're missing the forest for the trees. | ||
| I hate it! | ||
| You're missing the forest for the trees. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's not going to be any consequences for Trump's behavior. | ||
| But the Democrats and the globalists, they still have a ton of power. | ||
| Because Alex isn't on Facebook. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| They have no bottom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| If you don't allow Alex, what won't you do? | ||
| If you take Alex off of Facebook, then the sky is the limit, Dan. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And no one will respect the political aspirations of Sargon of Akkad. | ||
| Well, someday they will. | ||
| People keep pointing the finger at Faith Goldie. | ||
| Mark Taylor told me in the prophecy. | ||
| These globalists are so against... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| So, anyway, we come to the end of this, and there's a lot going on here. | ||
| But one thing that I find really interesting is almost a lack of coverage of these big news stories from last week. | ||
| You know, Notre Dame burning... | ||
| You know, it didn't burn down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that spire was built in the 19th century. | ||
| That doesn't mean it's any less tragic. | ||
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Right. | |
| But it wasn't from, you know, the 1100s, that spire. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I feel like I'm minimizing it, and I don't mean to. | ||
| But, like, that is big news, that fire. | ||
| Well, we still have Assassin's Creed Unity, so if you want to enjoy the Notre Dame, then feel free to play the game. | ||
| It's all there for you. | ||
| So then also you have, you know, the Mueller report coming out. | ||
| It's big news. | ||
| And Alex's response to neither of them is great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or interesting, really, at all. | ||
| All you see in the aftermath of Notre Dame is Alex trying to make everything about Muslims, and all you have in the aftermath of Mueller is a very predictable, this is a cover-up for what Hillary Clinton was doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which he didn't need that report to say. | ||
| He said that all along. | ||
| It doesn't fucking matter. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| I'm most excited about the prospect that he's going back to Sandy Hook. | ||
| Actually, I'm not. | ||
| Because it's not... | ||
| You can't enjoy it. | ||
| No. | ||
| It hurts people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like I said, if it were a sketch, it would be fucking hilarious. | ||
| If there weren't consequences for people's lives, it would be very, very funny that this stupid asshole forgot the conspiracies that he was telling and then went back and was like... | ||
| Got very re-excited about the conspiracy. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| Oh, man, I was right this whole time. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I was letting people tell me that I was lying about it, but now I've gone back and looked at it, and you know what? | ||
| I'm doubling down. | ||
| Here's what we should do. | ||
| Go to the Sandy Hook victims' houses! | ||
| God damn it, man. | ||
| It's funny on paper. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not funny in real life. | ||
| No. | ||
| And now I've walked myself full circle into not being excited about anything I was just doing. | ||
| This is all trash. | ||
| You know what's interesting? | ||
| There's a very real parallel to Notre Dame burning down, but there being a perfect digital recreation of it inside of a video game. | ||
| Isn't that exactly like you dying? | ||
| What Facebook wants to do to you? | ||
| But your substance being drawn up into the cloud? | ||
| Is there much difference? | ||
| Food for thought, everyone. | ||
| I suppose so. | ||
| Food for eyes can be found on our website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| There will be a link up there to our store where you can buy the new shirt. | ||
| It's called Larry Nichols shirt. | ||
| Shirtsickle.com slash knowledgefights. | ||
| There will be a link. | ||
| Sickle, S-I-C-L-E. | ||
| I don't expect anyone to be able to remember that. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| It'll be nice. | ||
| Also, we're on Twitter. | ||
| We are. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| And I'm at GoToBedJordan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| We're also on iTunes. | ||
| We are on iTunes. | ||
| You can download, rate, leave a review, etc. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, I guess we come to the end of this here. | ||
| And, you know, I'm looking over this. | ||
| Hey, what do you know? | ||
| Alex's Bernie impression's never killed anybody. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| I know, it's annoying, but I don't think it's killed anybody. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| The man who does that impression technically probably has. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones technically probably killed a guy. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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