Knowledge Fight - #262: April 14, 2009
Aired: 2019-02-11
Duration: 01:15:10


=== Most Shocking InfoWars Moment (15:19) ===

[00:00:00]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[00:00:01]  Thanks for holding.
[00:00:04]  Hello, Alex.
[00:00:04]  I'm a first-time caller.
[00:00:05]  I'm a huge fan.
[00:00:06]  I love your work.
[00:00:07]  I love you.
[00:00:07]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:08]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:00:09]  I'm Dan.
[00:00:09]  I'm Jordan.
[00:00:10]  We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:00:14]  Oh, indeed we are.
[00:00:16]  Dan.
[00:00:16]  Jordan.
[00:00:17]  Dan.
[00:00:17]  Jordan.
[00:00:18]  When was the last time you got stuck in traffic?
[00:00:22]  Yesterday, driving around with you.
[00:00:25]  I mean, I haven't driven a car since I moved to Chicago.
[00:00:27]  Right, that's what I'm saying.
[00:00:28]  I did once.
[00:00:29]  You did once?
[00:00:30]  Dan Drees was trying to teach me to drive during this short period where I thought I was going to buy an RV.
[00:00:35]  So I realized I needed to get a driver's license.
[00:00:37]  Of course.
[00:00:38]  And so he was teaching me to drive, and he didn't need to.
[00:00:41]  I remember how to drive.
[00:00:42]  Yeah.
[00:00:42]  But I was really scared about it, because at that point it had been like six, seven years since I had driven.
[00:00:47]  I thought I'd be like, bro, all over the road.
[00:00:49]  Right.
[00:00:49]  That was fine.
[00:00:50]  Yeah.
[00:00:51]  But no traffic that time.
[00:00:53]  But yeah, in your car, yesterday.
[00:00:54]  Before you moved to Chicago, you used to drive around, right?
[00:00:58]  Yeah, in Missouri.
[00:00:58]  Yeah?
[00:00:59]  Yeah.
[00:00:59]  What happened in Missouri while you were driving?
[00:01:01]  Hit a lot of curbs.
[00:01:02]  Hit a lot of curbs?
[00:01:03]  No, not really.
[00:01:03]  Were you a confident driver?
[00:01:05]  Nah, you don't need to be all that confident in Columbia, Missouri.
[00:01:08]  Fair.
[00:01:08]  It's pretty easy going for the most part.
[00:01:10]  You don't need to be all that sober in Columbia.
[00:01:12]  No, you do.
[00:01:13]  Oh, yeah.
[00:01:13]  They have pretty serious...
[00:01:15]  Like, you don't have to be sober in Chicago.
[00:01:17]  Right.
[00:01:17]  Every comic I've ever known has, like, driven drunk.
[00:01:21]  All over the place.
[00:01:22]  And I'm very uncomfortable about it.
[00:01:23]  Don't reveal our secrets.
[00:01:24]  It's not a secret.
[00:01:25]  It's almost impossible to get a DUI in Chicago.
[00:01:28]  It is really tough.
[00:01:29]  It's really tough if you're white.
[00:01:31]  But in Columbia, they take that a little more seriously.
[00:01:34]  I never drove drunk after I...
[00:01:36]  When I was like...
[00:01:37]  19, I had not a DUI.
[00:01:40]  It ended up getting pled down to a civic violation or whatever, but I was so scared in the moment when it happened.
[00:01:47]  So I was just like, oh my god, this is...
[00:01:49]  It was terrifying.
[00:01:50]  Yeah, of course.
[00:01:50]  Losing control of a car.
[00:01:51]  Of course.
[00:01:52]  Thankfully, no one got hurt or anything like that, but I was so scared of that that from 19 on, I never got in a car driving with any alcohol in me.
[00:02:02]  Even one beer.
[00:02:03]  Really?
[00:02:03]  Yeah.
[00:02:03]  Wow.
[00:02:04]  I was very, very...
[00:02:07]  Terrified from that experience.
[00:02:09]  Anyway, I don't know.
[00:02:10]  I haven't been in traffic in a long time.
[00:02:14]  Lots of fun stories.
[00:02:15]  It doesn't matter if you're in traffic.
[00:02:17]  Nope.
[00:02:18]  It's just a gateway into communication.
[00:02:21]  Sure.
[00:02:22]  This is a podcast where I don't know much about traffic, but I know a lot about Alex Jones.
[00:02:25]  That's true, and I know a lot about traffic, and I don't know anything about Alex Jones except what you tell me.
[00:02:29]  We are like Jack Spratt and his wife, the bone and the fat and the licking the plate clean.
[00:02:35]  Anyway.
[00:02:36]  We are not like Jett Spratt and his wife.
[00:02:38]  Today we've got a very interesting show where we will be back in 2009, and I have some thoughts about that.
[00:02:44]  I want to discuss them on the other side of this.
[00:02:45]  But first, I have some thoughts that are very positive about some of our new donors.
[00:02:50]  I'd like to give them a shout-out.
[00:02:51]  First, Cummins.
[00:02:53]  Thank you so much.
[00:02:53]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:02:55]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:02:56]  Thank you, Cummins.
[00:02:56]  Thank you very much, Cummins.
[00:02:57]  Next, Kenneth.
[00:02:58]  Thank you so much.
[00:02:59]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:03:01]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:02]  Thank you, Kenneth.
[00:03:02]  Thank you very much, Kenneth.
[00:03:03]  Next, Eric.
[00:03:04]  With a K. Eric with a K. You are now a policy wonk.
[00:03:07]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:09]  Thank you, Eric.
[00:03:09]  Thank you very much, Viking Eric.
[00:03:11]  Now, next, this one is MCF, which I can't tell if it's a play on Mick G, the music video director, like Mick F. I don't think it is.
[00:03:20]  I don't think so.
[00:03:20]  Anyway, MCF, thank you so much.
[00:03:22]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:03:23]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:25]  Thank you, MCF.
[00:03:25]  Thank you very much, MCF.
[00:03:26]  Finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who took their donation, bumped it up a little bit.
[00:03:30]  What?
[00:03:30]  We appreciate it.
[00:03:31]  Oh, so very much.
[00:03:32]  So, Tyler, you are now a technocrat.
[00:03:35]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:03:36]  Four stars.
[00:03:37]  Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
[00:03:39]  Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
[00:03:42]  Daddy Shark.
[00:03:44]  Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
[00:03:48]  He's a loser little titty baby.
[00:03:52]  I don't want to hate black people.
[00:03:53]  I renounce Jesus Christ!
[00:03:55]  Thank you so much, Tyler.
[00:03:56]  Thank you very much, Tyler.
[00:03:57]  If you're listening out there and you're thinking, hey, I like this show, I'd like to support these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that button that says support the show.
[00:04:05]  We do appreciate it.
[00:04:06]  Indeed you can, and that would be nice of you.
[00:04:08]  Yeah, and also we got some other people posting that they have redirected websites.
[00:04:13]  Fantastic.
[00:04:14]  Absolutely.
[00:04:15]  I believe that infowars.wiki now redirects to our wiki page.
[00:04:19]  To the actual wiki.
[00:04:20]  I believe so, so that's fun.
[00:04:25]  Look, so today what we're doing is we're going back to 2009.
[00:04:28]  And I mentioned that a lot of the main mysteries are kind of...
[00:04:32]  They're not that mysterious to us anymore.
[00:04:34]  Right, right, right.
[00:04:34]  About 2009.
[00:04:35]  We have the Tea Party sort of figured out in terms of the Oath Keeper's angle.
[00:04:40]  We have a little glimmering of Soros talk.
[00:04:44]  And, you know, so those main things that were really driving my curiosities...
[00:04:50]  You know, aren't that spectacular to me anymore?
[00:04:52]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:53]  But I realized our last episode ended with coverage of April 13th, 2009, and two days later is tax day.
[00:05:01]  So we can't leave 2009 without getting to the main day of the Tea Party.
[00:05:05]  Absolutely!
[00:05:05]  Since at that point, they hadn't lost the thread yet.
[00:05:07]  It was still an anti-tax movement.
[00:05:09]  Right, right, right.
[00:05:10]  Or whatever.
[00:05:10]  So, like, you gotta get to at least tax day.
[00:05:13]  And so I decided we're going to stick in 2009 at least for a little bit.
[00:05:16]  And I was like, hey, you know what I'm going to do?
[00:05:18]  I'm going to get the 14th and the 15th knocked out.
[00:05:20]  Now we're going to find out what happened.
[00:05:23]  Unfortunately, on this episode, I think the most shocking thing I've ever heard on InfoWars happens.
[00:05:29]  I love taxes!
[00:05:31]  No.
[00:05:32]  Taxation without representation!
[00:05:34]  That would have been crazy.
[00:05:35]  Just from a narrative standpoint, that would have been nuts.
[00:05:39]  But what, like...
[00:05:40]  I can't even begin to talk about how fucked up the thing that happens on this episode is.
[00:05:45]  There are not many times that I'm listening to these episodes and, like, my response to something I hear is, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:05:56]  Wall to wall, end words.
[00:05:58]  Wall to wall.
[00:05:58]  I have to pause the episode and sit there, like, for a couple minutes, like...
[00:06:04]  What's happening?
[00:06:05]  And then listen back to the clip like five times to make sure I heard it correctly.
[00:06:09]  That sort of thing.
[00:06:10]  So I don't want to oversell this, but we'll get to that as we get to it.
[00:06:14]  I started drinking adrenochrome, and I gotta be honest.
[00:06:17]  It's pretty good.
[00:06:18]  It's pretty great.
[00:06:19]  It's pretty great.
[00:06:20]  So we're going over just the 14th today.
[00:06:22]  We'll have to let tax day wait, because this really threw a wrench into my process.
[00:06:28]  But we're going to start here on the 14th.
[00:06:30]  Alex is complaining about taxes and the idea that there are more new taxes, and then he discusses a way you can fight back against those taxes.
[00:06:39]  And then they're going to squeeze you.
[00:06:41]  Every state's passing new taxes.
[00:06:43]  New York, 80-something new taxes.
[00:06:45]  And they're going to take your property, take your home, squeeze you, SWAT team you.
[00:06:49]  They're going to send the police.
[00:06:51]  And anybody that fights back with the Second Amendment is going to be called a terrorist.
[00:06:55]  Yeah.
[00:06:56]  And that's what America is.
[00:06:57]  Agreed 100%.
[00:06:58]  That phrasing is primo fucked up.
[00:07:02]  Agreed 100%.
[00:07:03]  Fight back with the Second Amendment.
[00:07:07]  And anybody who shoots a tax collector is all of a sudden a terrorist.
[00:07:11]  Isn't that kind of what he's saying?
[00:07:12]  It is exactly what he's saying.
[00:07:14]  You can't say fights back with guns, so you paraphrase and say fights back with the Second Amendment.
[00:07:20]  That's what he's saying.
[00:07:21]  Fight back with guns against taxes.
[00:07:23]  Yeah, I was going to say, how can you fight?
[00:07:25]  Ah, ha-ha, if you do not recall, the Second Amendment provides for no taxes!
[00:07:30]  It relieves the burdens of taxation.
[00:07:32]  How does that work?
[00:07:34]  So that's where we start.
[00:07:35]  That's crazy.
[00:07:36]  But Alex is like, if you murder an IRS agent with a gun, then they're going to be all in a tizzy.
[00:07:43]  They're going to call you a murdering terrorist.
[00:07:45]  We start.
[00:07:46]  We start.
[00:07:47]  It opens with, one, the government is going to send the FBI and the cops to your house.
[00:07:54]  And they're going to squeeze you, much like Alex is going to do as a squid against Joe Rogan.
[00:07:58]  Of course.
[00:07:59]  For your $4,000 in taxes.
[00:08:02]  That you have to pay.
[00:08:04]  And if you kill them, all of a sudden people are going to say you're a bad dude.
[00:08:09]  And especially because it would be necessarily politically motivated.
[00:08:12]  Yeah.
[00:08:12]  It would be terrorism.
[00:08:15]  Anyway, Alex takes calls early on this episode.
[00:08:18]  Not sure why.
[00:08:19]  I think he's sort of feeling the idea of getting the temperature of America.
[00:08:24]  And this caller calls in and he starts talking about how he was listening to my main man, Neil Bortz.
[00:08:29]  Neil Bortz is another conservative radio guy.
[00:08:31]  Sure.
[00:08:32]  He's the proponent, one of the main proponents of the flat tax.
[00:08:36]  And also a fairly entertaining broadcaster, but he doesn't have Alex Jones chops.
[00:08:42]  I would call the flat tax more like a, give all of the money to the rich.
[00:08:47]  Interesting.
[00:08:47]  I think that's what I would call it.
[00:08:49]  That's one way to look at it.
[00:08:50]  Yeah.
[00:08:50]  So anyway, this guy was listening to Neil Bortz, and apparently Bortz is starting to cover some of these, like, MIAC report things that Alex has been talking about.
[00:08:59]  And so this caller wants to ask Alex about, like, what does he think about that?
[00:09:03]  And he brings up the way Bortz is covering it and wants Alex's response.
[00:09:08]  All right, well, go ahead, sir.
[00:09:11]  Well, anyway, he turned everything into a liberal issue.
[00:09:14]  Why is there no left wing on the document?
[00:09:17]  Why is it just right wing and everything like that?
[00:09:21]  And everything here locally and in Nashville and everything, they're talking about all the big tea parties and stuff like that, and why does the left have anything like that?
[00:09:30]  Why aren't they coming up against this stuff about the IRS and stuff like that?
[00:09:34]  Well, because the so-called left are all Big Banker Foundation owned and run.
[00:09:40]  All these big websites literally attacking me are Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, funded.
[00:09:46]  In fact, I'm going to cover that some later in the hour.
[00:09:48]  And so they're there wanting more taxes.
[00:09:53]  See, the average liberal on the street thinks that, oh, it's lovey-dovey and social welfare debt and that it's helping the poor to have big government.
[00:10:01]  They don't understand big government is for the big corporations through their tax-free foundations to steal the working people's money.
[00:10:08]  And so the left loves the taxes.
[00:10:11]  That's why they list the Tea Parties as basically terrorists in a lot of these documents, is because the hereditary enemy of the globalists is paleoconservatives slash classical liberals.
[00:10:25]  And the Thomas Jefferson ilk.
[00:10:27]  Thanks for the call.
[00:10:30]  So the underlying question that he seems to be asking the caller, like, why don't they have any of these MIAC reports about liberals?
[00:10:37]  For people on the left.
[00:10:39]  Why isn't that?
[00:10:40]  Why is it only us right-wing people who are being pointed out for their extremism?
[00:10:45]  And there's a reason for this.
[00:10:47]  It's because Alex and his guests like to pretend that all government is ever concerned about is right-wing extremism.
[00:10:52]  And the government just turns a complete blind eye to any terrorism or extremism on the left.
[00:10:57]  This perception is created and reinforced by the fact that people like Alex, or, in this caller's case, Neil Bortz, only cover stuff like this when they need to get really defensive about reports about right-wing extremism.
[00:11:08]  So they can, you know, just basically prop up their own narrative of systemic oppression.
[00:11:12]  It should come as no surprise that this version of reality that the propagandists here present is not accurate in any way.
[00:11:20]  In April 2001, Dr. Carl Sager prepared a report for the U.S. Department of Energy entitled Left-Wing Extremism, The Current Threat.
[00:11:28]  This report, in many ways, is pretty similar to the MIAC report, saying things like, quote, a lot of terrorists on the left are communists, which may be accurate, I'm not sure, but in no way implies that this report is saying that you are a terrorist if you're a communist.
[00:11:42]  A lot of left-wing terrorists probably do have communist leanings.
[00:11:47]  Sure!
[00:11:47]  That doesn't mean that they're saying communists are terrorists.
[00:11:50]  Anything like that.
[00:11:51]  It's very similar to the Mayak Report in many ways, but a little bit more exhaustive.
[00:11:56]  I wonder why.
[00:11:57]  The report explains that, quote, It goes on to say that, quote, It's the same thing.
[00:12:25]  One of the things I found particularly interesting about this particular report, though, was that it pulled information from a study conducted by Brent Smith, published in the State University of New York Press, called Terrorism in America.
[00:12:36]  In the study, Smith looked at 378 members of identified terrorist groups and compared the demographics of those in right-wing groups and left-wing ones.
[00:12:46]  He found that members of right-wing groups were 97% male, compared to 73% in left-wing groups.
[00:12:53]  Members of right-wing groups were 97% white compared to 29% in left-wing groups.
[00:12:58]  36% of the members of right-wing groups were over the age of 40 as opposed to 18% over the age of 40 in left-wing groups.
[00:13:06]  12% of the members of right-wing groups had college degrees compared to 54% of left-wing group members.
[00:13:13]  None of that really proves anything definitive, but the numbers are different enough to be interesting.
[00:13:17]  Yeah.
[00:13:18]  I think what you're saying is that women earn only 24 terrors for every 76 terrorists there are.
[00:13:26]  I think there is a gender discrepancy in terrorism earnings.
[00:13:29]  I think this is an issue.
[00:13:29]  I think this is an issue.
[00:13:31]  That's a problem.
[00:13:33]  You're a terrorist, JW.
[00:13:37]  So, also, in October 2014, the Department of Homeland Security released a report titled Patterns of Terrorism in the United States, 1970-2013.
[00:13:48]  And it's very clear from the data it presents.
[00:13:52]  Mostly what you find is that there was a shit ton of left-wing terrorism in the 70s.
[00:13:57]  And that shifts hard towards right-wing terrorism from that point onward.
[00:14:01]  In the 80s and 90s, anti-abortion activists, the report's words, not mine, were the number one category of terrorists in the United States, comprising 16% of attacks in the 80s and 26% in the 90s.
[00:14:13]  Throughout that entire time, the DHS does make note that groups like the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front were very active in committing a bunch of terrorist attacks.
[00:14:22]  But in the 24 years that the ALF was active at that point, their attacks had killed no one.
[00:14:28]  And the same is true of the Earth Liberation Front.
[00:14:40]  At the same time the numbers of left-wing incidents were decreasing.
[00:14:44]  You see these patterns very clearly.
[00:14:46]  The point is that the government and the researchers in these organizations, they don't ignore left-wing terrorism.
[00:14:52]  They deal with the reality, and that reality is that there's plenty of left-wing terrorism to discuss, and simultaneously, there's even more right-wing terrorism to discuss.
[00:15:01]  If anyone's ignoring anything, it's Alex and his right-wing ilk ignoring the fact that they do cover all this stuff in order to maintain the illusion that the out-of-control government is targeting conservatives in preparation to put them in camps.

=== Rescue Dog Deception (15:40) ===

[00:15:13]  Or some shit like that.
[00:15:15]  That's all.
[00:15:15]  This is all bullshit.
[00:15:16]  There's plenty of reports you can find about left-wing terrorism.
[00:15:19]  There's also plenty of reports you can find about the FBI planting agents inside left-wing groups in order to incite them to violence, in order to discredit them.
[00:15:30]  That is a very real example that happens regularly, including recently in the...
[00:15:36]  How many different places?
[00:15:38]  in Charlottesville they had FBI agents in there in so many different places in the fucking Black Panthers in the 60s and 70s the main reason that they killed Why was there an informant?
[00:15:53]  Because the FBI was fucking targeting them specifically and ignoring right-wing terrorist groups.
[00:16:00]  There's a line between informant and provocateur.
[00:16:03]  Absolutely.
[00:16:03]  In the same way that I understand why there would be an informant at Elohim City in the 90s.
[00:16:11]  I do understand why there would be an informant in the Black Panthers, too.
[00:16:14]  I get it.
[00:16:15]  Yeah, but...
[00:16:16]  No, for sure.
[00:16:17]  But that's very different.
[00:16:18]  The reality of the situations is quite different.
[00:16:20]  Now, Charlottesville is the best example of the FBI literally planting agents inside the protesters in order to incite them to violence, in order to discredit them.
[00:16:33]  I recall some of that stuff coming out of Ferguson, too.
[00:16:36]  It was absolutely coming out of Ferguson.
[00:16:38]  But, you know, be that as it may, we got just bogus nonsense coming up here.
[00:16:44]  We got Alex saying, use the Second Amendment to fight taxes, and then just crazy bullshit about how the left is free to roam and no one targets them or anything like that.
[00:16:54]  I assume Alex doesn't get the irony of him saying that you should kill tax collectors and also saying that right-wing terrorist is almost non-existent.
[00:17:04]  I assure you he doesn't.
[00:17:05]  He doesn't get that irony?
[00:17:06]  I assure you, or if he does...
[00:17:08]  Because he's very cagey about not revealing that he does.
[00:17:11]  Okay.
[00:17:12]  So in this next clip, he gets to a narrative against one President Barack Obama that I think, first of all, the first part of it is pretty distasteful and I'm not thrilled with.
[00:17:21]  The second part is awesome and it's another one of these scandals that I completely forgot.
[00:17:26]  It's tan suit level.
[00:17:28]  Okay.
[00:17:28]  Oh, boy.
[00:17:29]  I forgot about this one.
[00:17:30]  I mean, how can anybody believe anything Barack Obama says?
[00:17:35]  Everything is a lie.
[00:17:37]  He's 6.5% African.
[00:17:41]  6.5%.
[00:17:42]  So it's a lie that he's black.
[00:17:45]  He didn't get a rescue dog like he said he was, and that's now in the news.
[00:17:49]  That's a lie.
[00:17:50]  So he didn't get a rescue dog.
[00:17:53]  That's right!
[00:17:54]  That is right!
[00:17:55]  I remember that!
[00:17:56]  I completely forgot people were mad about that.
[00:17:58]  Oh my God!
[00:17:59]  Oh my god!
[00:18:00]  For real!
[00:18:02]  He was just a black president!
[00:18:04]  I am somebody who is strongly in favor of rescuing pets.
[00:18:08]  Absolutely.
[00:18:08]  And I also think that when celebrities get boutique pets and stuff like that, it kind of does send a bad message.
[00:18:14]  So I understand that there's some very soft...
[00:18:16]  Criticisms to make of the president not getting a rescue dog.
[00:18:20]  But he didn't lie about it.
[00:18:21]  So in 2009, President Obama adopted Beau, America's first dog.
[00:18:27]  Beau was a Portuguese water dog.
[00:18:28]  That was America's first dog?
[00:18:30]  Only, you'd never had dogs before.
[00:18:33]  Socks was the first cat.
[00:18:35]  And I'm grateful that Bill Clinton brought cats to our lives.
[00:18:38]  Yeah, that's wonderful.
[00:18:40]  It's always a Democrat president who reintroduces animals into the wild.
[00:18:45]  Yeah.
[00:18:45]  My assessment of Bo is pretty cute, all things considered.
[00:18:48]  In a scandal that we all still remember as being a stain on the presidency, Barack Obama did not adopt a rescue dog after saying that he absolutely, 100%, would only accept a rescue dog.
[00:18:59]  Except that isn't true at all.
[00:19:00]  In a press conference, Obama said, quote, Criticism of him.
[00:19:27]  Oh boy.
[00:19:28]  Yeah.
[00:19:28]  Oh boy.
[00:19:29]  He didn't say that he was going to get a shelter dog or a rescue dog, just that he would prefer to.
[00:19:34]  But the requirements they were working with might make it hard.
[00:19:37]  By April, they'd narrowed down the dog hunt, and the family began searching at shelters for a dog that met their needs.
[00:19:43]  Ultimately, they didn't find that dog.
[00:19:45]  But one of the litter mates of the dog owned by Senator Ted Kennedy did fit their exact needs, so he bought it for them as a gift.
[00:19:53]  Though Bo was bought from a breeder, the dog is also what's known as a second-chance pet, meaning that its first owner had returned it to the breeder, which is something that can carry a little bit of a stigma in dog breeding circles.
[00:20:05]  Obama never claimed that this made it a rescue dog, but guess who did?
[00:20:09]  Caesar fucking Milan did.
[00:20:11]  The dog whisperer.
[00:20:14]  He said it was a rescue dog.
[00:20:15]  Hey, hey, hey.
[00:20:16]  Even Wayne Parcell, the chief executive of the Humane Society, called Bo a, quote, quasi-rescue dog.
[00:20:23]  After the Obamas were criticized for their decision to a level that seems disproportionate, they made a donation to the Humane Society as a gesture.
[00:20:30]  Long story short, there's no scandal here, and he didn't lie about it.
[00:20:34]  I hate people.
[00:20:34]  I hate them.
[00:20:37]  Fuck you.
[00:20:37]  Fuck all of you.
[00:20:39]  Fuck anybody who talked about this.
[00:20:41]  The fucking current president started the goddamn office breaking the emoluments clause.
[00:20:48]  He didn't...
[00:20:48]  He should already be gone.
[00:20:50]  But he didn't say he was going to get a rescue dog and then didn't.
[00:20:52]  Literally.
[00:20:54]  Literally, constitutionally, he is not allowed to be president.
[00:20:57]  Nah.
[00:20:57]  Nah.
[00:20:58]  Literally!
[00:20:59]  He's on the up...
[00:20:59]  According to the constitution!
[00:21:01]  He's on the up and up on pets, so I'm okay with it.
[00:21:04]  Oh my god.
[00:21:04]  Oh my god.
[00:21:06]  And I don't know if you know this, Alex, but...
[00:21:09]  Black isn't a percentage in America.
[00:21:13]  Black is the color of your skin.
[00:21:14]  It doesn't matter if you're 1% black, but your skin is all the way black.
[00:21:19]  People are going to treat you racistically.
[00:21:21]  That is the reality of the situation.
[00:21:23]  There's different conversations, and you can intentionally blend them if you want to do what Alex is doing.
[00:21:29]  I just never like to hear anybody give racial litmus tests and stuff like that, because they never come from a good place.
[00:21:37]  Nope.
[00:21:37]  They never come from a place of good faith or saying something positive.
[00:21:41]  It's always used to attack, and it's always exclusionary, and it sucks.
[00:21:46]  It just sucks to hear Alex.
[00:21:47]  There are so many stories of, and probably still going on right now, actually almost certainly still going on right now, where somebody of mixed race is both excluded from their skin color based.
[00:22:04]  And also excluded from the other side of their heritage simply because of their skin color.
[00:22:10]  Like, that is something that is a massive issue.
[00:22:13]  And, no, but, hey, it's all about percentage.
[00:22:17]  Right.
[00:22:17]  Never mind.
[00:22:18]  So, Alex now goes to a guest.
[00:22:21]  He's got a guest.
[00:22:22]  And we met this guy in Endgame.
[00:22:23]  And we caught a little glimpse of him in the Obama deception.
[00:22:27]  And he's old and a big douche.
[00:22:30]  We're going to get Jim Tucker.
[00:22:31]  God.
[00:22:32]  Written for some of the largest syndicated columns in newspapers.
[00:22:35]  Been in newspaper work for almost 50 years.
[00:22:38]  Writes for American Free Press.
[00:22:40]  He is the original guy who 30-plus years ago began writing about the Bilderberg Group.
[00:22:45]  So I have more to say about him than we necessarily covered in the Obama deception stuff, or in the endgame stuff.
[00:22:52]  And it's good for a refresher.
[00:22:54]  About this, because he works for American Free Press.
[00:22:57]  Yeah.
[00:22:57]  And you hear a name like American Free Press, all those things are things that Alex purports to love.
[00:23:03]  Man, how can you be against something that's American, that's free, or is the press?
[00:23:07]  That's great!
[00:23:08]  All those words are awesome!
[00:23:10]  Yeah, but actually I think Alex hates all of those words.
[00:23:13]  Possibly.
[00:23:14]  Also, the American Free Press is one of those things that's named in a way to intentionally trick people into thinking stuff like what I was just saying.
[00:23:20]  Oh, do you mean like Americans for prosperity?
[00:23:22]  You bet.
[00:23:23]  When in reality it's a completely fucked up outlet and anyone associated with it deserves a fair amount of suspicion.
[00:23:29]  The American Free Press was set up by Willis Carto, a noted anti-Semite and white supremacist.
[00:23:34]  In 2001, after his previous publication, The Spotlight was forced into bankruptcy.
[00:23:39]  They were sued by the Institute for Historical Review, which is a legit, outright Holocaust-denialist publication, which was also founded by Willis Carto, who had by that time fallen out of their good graces.
[00:23:51]  So he co-found this organization, and by this point in time, he was not doing great.
[00:23:57]  So it's really called American Free Press Minorities into Small Bits.
[00:24:05]  Yeah.
[00:24:06]  So in 1996, the Institute for Historical Review successfully sued Willis Carto for just short of $6.5 million because he embezzled $7.5 million that had been left to the IHR in the will of Gene Edison Farrell, the grandniece of Thomas Edison, who was herself a really big anti-Semite.
[00:24:26]  I have bad news also about Thomas Edison.
[00:24:29]  Not a cool guy, turns out.
[00:24:31]  Oh, what?
[00:24:32]  Hired a guy back in the day and then fired him the next day because he found out he was Jewish.
[00:24:36]  Ah, man.
[00:24:37]  Also, wrote a letter in 1914 blaming the Jews for starting World War I. Oh, not just did he steal all those patents, but he's also an anti-Semite?
[00:24:45]  I'm starting to think he's a bad guy.
[00:24:47]  Yeah, it turns out he wasn't great.
[00:24:48]  And his grandniece gave $7.5 million.
[00:24:52]  Wasn't Tesla Jewish?
[00:24:55]  I don't know, actually.
[00:24:57]  I think he was Hungarian, but I don't know if he was Jewish.
[00:24:59]  I never really knew to check.
[00:25:02]  Because I didn't think it mattered, but apparently I was way wrong.
[00:25:05]  So Willis didn't take his ouster from IHR very well, and at one point he staged an occupation of their headquarters to try and remain in control.
[00:25:13]  Ah, that sounds smart.
[00:25:15]  It didn't go well.
[00:25:17]  Embezzle several million dollars and then occupy the business that is suing you.
[00:25:22]  Perfectly correct.
[00:25:23]  I'm not actually sure if that occupation was before the lawsuit or after, but it doesn't really matter in my eyes.
[00:25:29]  The 2001 case that bankrupted him appears to be a continuation of this case from 1996, but also alleged that Will Escarto diverted funds from the IHR's parent company to himself.
[00:25:40]  After he lost this case, he had to declare bankruptcy, and the spotlight ended up having to fold.
[00:25:45]  But because Willis Carto is a man dedicated to both the grift and to anti-Semitism, he immediately started up American Free Press.
[00:25:53]  And most of the people involved in the spotlight just started working there.
[00:25:56]  It's kind of just a rebrand.
[00:25:58]  You know, it's good that he knew to stay in his lane, though.
[00:26:02]  Sure.
[00:26:02]  You know, like, he's a guy who knows what he does.
[00:26:04]  He accepts it.
[00:26:06]  Also, I'm wrong about Tesla.
[00:26:08]  Okay.
[00:26:08]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:26:08]  Glad you checked.
[00:26:09]  Yeah.
[00:26:10]  The ADL has called Carto, quote, one of the most influential American anti-Semitic propagandists of the past 50 years, which makes sense considering that he explicitly set up his publications, both the Spotlight and American Free Press, as instruments to turn the public sentiment against and, as the ADL puts it, quote, mobilize opinion against the Jewish population.
[00:26:33]  Right.
[00:26:33]  But how were their beat writers?
[00:26:35]  They have a sports section.
[00:26:36]  Well, one of them was fucking Jim Tucker's, yes.
[00:26:38]  Right, but I mean, like, how did they cover, like, when was this?
[00:26:40]  They didn't have a sports section.
[00:26:41]  They didn't have a sports section?
[00:26:42]  No.
[00:26:42]  Well, then why would anybody?
[00:26:43]  It was an anti-Semitic political jackrag.
[00:26:46]  That's what it was.
[00:26:47]  With Cardo, there's no gray area.
[00:26:49]  He did what he did to swindle money from organizations and to attack the Jews, who he saw as the biggest threat to the world.
[00:26:55]  He literally said, quote, if Satan himself, with all of his superhuman genius and diabolical ingenuity at his command, had tried to create a permanent disintegration and force for the destruction of the nations, he could have done no better than to invent the Jews.
[00:27:11]  Huh!
[00:27:12]  Just blunt.
[00:27:13]  That is harsh.
[00:27:14]  That's harsh criticism.
[00:27:15]  In an interesting connection to Alex's intellectual heroes, Willis Carto was actively involved in the George Wallace 1968 presidential campaign.
[00:27:23]  I don't know why he would be involved in that campaign.
[00:27:26]  He ran the Youth for George Wallace group in that campaign.
[00:27:30]  Do you mean Hitler Youth?
[00:27:31]  When Wallace, his campaign failed, Carto continued on with the group and renamed it the National Youth Alliance.
[00:27:38]  The National Youth Alliance was a hotbed of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, with many of their leading figures being members of a pseudo-secret society called the Francis Parker Yaki Society.
[00:27:59]  So literally the Hitler Youth.
[00:28:00]  Yep.
[00:28:01]  In 1960, while he was in prison after being caught with falsified passports, this Yaki guy, he was visited by, you guessed it, Willis Carteau, who was near obsessive about his writings and philosophy.
[00:28:14]  It probably wasn't related, but Yaki killed himself by ingesting cyanide a week later.
[00:28:18]  Good for him!
[00:28:22]  That's the first thing he's done that I approve of.
[00:28:24]  In his time with the National Youth Alliance, Carter recruited a promising youngster by the name of William Luther Pierce into the group.
[00:28:31]  Interestingly, Pierce would go on to write the Turner Diaries, which is largely thought of as the white supremacist militia bible.
[00:28:38]  Pierce took over the National Youth Alliance and rebranded it as the National Alliance, which is one of the most virulent white nationalist organizations in public operation during the 90s and early 2000s.
[00:28:49]  It's still in existence now, but with a slightly, eh, fairly diminished capacity.
[00:28:54]  But they were a really fucked up important group of the neo-Nazi white supremacist times.
[00:28:59]  During that re-emergence of militia shit in the 90s.
[00:29:04]  And it all traces back to Willis Cardo and the George Wallace campaign.
[00:29:09]  God damn these people.
[00:29:11]  Where do they fucking come from?
[00:29:13]  In another interesting parallel, Cardo was one of the people who helped launch the Populist Party.
[00:29:17]  Best known for, probably best known, for fielding David Duke as their candidate for president in 1988.
[00:29:24]  Whereas the Populist Party was into some of the stuff that the more mainline conservatives were at the time, they were notable for their stances about repealing the federal income tax, abolishing the Federal Reserve, and cracking down super hard on immigration.
[00:29:37]  All things that Alex yells about all the time.
[00:29:40]  And Alex was like 13, 14 when they were coming up as a political entity, right around when Alex claims that he had his clarity moment reading None Dare Call It Conspiracy, written by Gary Allen, who worked for the Wallace campaign right alongside Willis Cardo.
[00:29:54]  Oh, and also Cardo is a huge fan of Ron Paul.
[00:29:58]  And so is David Duke.
[00:29:59]  David Duke loved Ron Paul too.
[00:30:00]  This is like the Avengers of white supremacy is what we're talking about right here.
[00:30:04]  They came together.
[00:30:06]  There was one great fight scene where everybody got their little viewpoint on that.
[00:30:10]  And then at the end of it, it turned into a movie that was shit.
[00:30:14]  It could be.
[00:30:15]  My point here is that there's a lot of really bad connections that you can see really easily.
[00:30:19]  Both literal connections between people and ideological connections.
[00:30:23]  But chiefly here, the point is that Willis Carto is a flagrant anti-Semite, a Nazi sympathizer, a white supremacist, and his publications were set up literally and explicitly to further those worldviews.

=== Curling Expert Misplaced (00:55) ===

[00:30:35]  And Jim Tucker was the editor of the spotlight, and he came along to American Free Press after Carto declared bankruptcy in 2001.
[00:30:43]  Jim Tucker is complicit.
[00:30:44]  He knew what kind of outlet he was working for, and here he is, presented as some kind of an expert instead of an anti-Semite, guesting on Alex Jones' show.
[00:30:53]  There is one thing that he really was an expert in.
[00:30:56]  The Bilderberg group?
[00:30:57]  No, curling.
[00:30:59]  He really liked curling.
[00:31:00]  I told you there's no sports page.
[00:31:02]  I really want there to be a sports page.
[00:31:04]  There's so many other...
[00:31:05]  I wanted to handle only white, like, racquetball.
[00:31:08]  Like, only white, mostly sports.

=== Did You Smoke a Cigarette? (02:55) ===

[00:31:12]  There's so much other stuff I'd really like to get into, but I'm not really sure how much all of it is super related.
[00:31:17]  The Pat Buchanan stuff, the Spotlight and Cardo were really big into trying to push Buchanan.
[00:31:24]  And so there's some of those connections, but one of the problems is we don't have audio of Alex from times that those would be relevant.
[00:31:34]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:34]  Mid-90s and stuff like that.
[00:31:36]  If we had those tapes, I almost guarantee he was a Buchanan fan.
[00:31:40]  Yeah.
[00:31:40]  I have no idea.
[00:31:41]  I can't back that up.
[00:31:42]  Wild speculation.
[00:31:43]  But anyway, my point is that Jim Tucker sucks, and this is the only charming moment.
[00:31:48]  They had just gone back from a commercial break, and Alex notices that Jim Tucker's speech is a little bit labored.
[00:31:56]  A couple weeks or so ago.
[00:32:00]  Jim, you're out of breath.
[00:32:01]  Did you run outside and smoke a cigarette?
[00:32:03]  No, I smoked two cigarettes.
[00:32:07]  Hey, hey, stay five more minutes with us in the next hour, because I want to go, I mean, let's have some levity.
[00:32:12]  Let's have some levity up in here.
[00:32:14]  Do you smoke a cigarette?
[00:32:15]  No, I smoke two.
[00:32:20]  That's pretty good.
[00:32:21]  Excuse me, sir.
[00:32:22]  I'm too fucking cool.
[00:32:23]  Yeah, that's pretty good.
[00:32:25]  Like, in terms of, like, it was quick?
[00:32:27]  Yeah.
[00:32:27]  A quick response?
[00:32:28]  Not bad.
[00:32:29]  Pretty witty?
[00:32:30]  Yeah.
[00:32:30]  Now, unfortunately, he starts talking about how cigarettes are overpriced.
[00:32:35]  Dude, move to Chicago now, man.
[00:32:37]  You might get your first indication that this interview isn't going to go well.
[00:32:41]  And until the turkeys in Congress increase cigarette taxes by 62 cents a pack, jerking food off the tables of starving Negro children in doing so, they cost $1.70 a carton, or $1.70 each, $17 a carton.
[00:33:01]  That came out of his mouth real easy.
[00:33:03]  Ah!
[00:33:04]  Ah!
[00:33:04]  Oh.
[00:33:09]  So apparently cigarette taxes...
[00:33:11]  So he's mad about cigarette taxes on behalf of the black youth.
[00:33:16]  Yes.
[00:33:16]  Yeah, gotcha.
[00:33:17]  Gotcha, Dan.
[00:33:18]  I don't want to...
[00:33:19]  I buy it!
[00:33:20]  I don't want to break this down too much, but that was the first moment where I was like, uh-oh.
[00:33:24]  Oh, boy.
[00:33:24]  That didn't seem good.
[00:33:26]  I buy it.
[00:33:27]  So in this next clip, Alex, Jim's still there, but he's talking about how he hasn't plugged, and he wants to plug that people should go get the Obama deception.
[00:33:36]  And the reason that he's plugging is because he knows that there's going to be tons and tons of tea parties around the country the next day.
[00:33:42]  Of course.
[00:33:43]  And they're a good marketing opportunity for him.
[00:33:45]  I just want to salute and thank everyone that has gotten the Obama deception, and I want to encourage those of you that haven't.

=== Buying Thousands of DVDs (03:04) ===

[00:33:54]  To please get it at Infowars.com on the secure online video and bookstore shopping cart and make all the copies your heart wants to.
[00:34:03]  I mean, as many as you can make.
[00:34:05]  I know a lot of universities and other groups of students are going out and everywhere Obama goes to speak, they're giving out thousands of these.
[00:34:13]  And the tea parties, the neocons are trying to co-opt.
[00:34:18]  Patriots, true patriots, are going out to these events.
[00:34:22]  You know, really waking up the people that are the Tea Parties to the full scope of the New World Order.
[00:34:26]  So again, Infowars.com.
[00:34:29]  So you can see that it's basically what we've seen all along.
[00:34:32]  The dumb, dumb conservative, the bad conservatives trying to co-opt this Tea Party.
[00:34:37]  But we're the good ones.
[00:34:38]  We're the real ones.
[00:34:39]  The real patriots.
[00:34:40]  And the way we radicalize them is by you guys.
[00:34:43]  Getting me a ton more fans.
[00:34:44]  Yep.
[00:34:45]  Get me a ton more fucking fans, and then we will swing this thing.
[00:34:49]  And for him, like for normal businesses, you'd be like, this is a bad business strategy, telling people to copy your stuff.
[00:34:55]  But in reality, for him, it's a brilliant business strategy, because everybody that's buying his CD is going to give it to somebody who does not have it.
[00:35:04]  And would never buy it.
[00:35:06]  It's the definition of market saturation into places you can't get into.
[00:35:11]  Like corners of populations and people who probably will never be exposed to your stuff.
[00:35:17]  And so you take a little bit of a bath.
[00:35:19]  You don't actually.
[00:35:20]  No, you don't.
[00:35:20]  Because the person making the copies is the one who's paying for the extra DVDs and shit.
[00:35:24]  Yeah, everybody who would buy it.
[00:35:26]  Is buying it.
[00:35:27]  Yeah.
[00:35:27]  They're also giving it away.
[00:35:29]  Even people who are downloading it or whatever, watching it on YouTube, if they are fans, they're buying it also.
[00:35:34]  Yeah.
[00:35:35]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:35:36]  Yeah, you have tapped your potential.
[00:35:38]  You only stand to gain from piracy.
[00:35:40]  Exactly.
[00:35:41]  Yeah, that is definitely true.
[00:35:42]  Yeah.
[00:35:43]  So, Jim Tucker's there, and they're talking about Bilderberg, and, I mean, to his credit, Bilderberg is like a month away, and he knows where it is.
[00:35:51]  He does get the place right.
[00:35:53]  It's in Greece, about 14 miles away from Athens.
[00:35:56]  And the dates, he gets those right.
[00:35:58]  But to me, that doesn't seem like that big a deal.
[00:36:01]  Because he's still super vague about what the...
[00:36:03]  It's going to be about.
[00:36:05]  He's just saying that they're going to celebrate the financial crisis.
[00:36:08]  Oh, that sounds fun.
[00:36:09]  That doesn't seem right.
[00:36:10]  It doesn't seem accurate.
[00:36:11]  It sounds fun.
[00:36:12]  You go to Athens, you celebrate the financial crisis.
[00:36:14]  You know, the best place to celebrate the financial crisis.
[00:36:18]  The place hit hardest by it.
[00:36:20]  I don't know what...
[00:36:21]  I don't pretend to know where he got the information from, or even if it was publicly known.
[00:36:28]  Wider than I understand in April 2009.
[00:36:31]  It's possible.
[00:36:32]  I don't know.
[00:36:33]  The idea of the place and dates, that doesn't impress me that much.
[00:36:38]  The gym has that.

=== Supernatural Silver Secrets (06:58) ===

[00:36:39]  Because everything else is off and nonsensical.
[00:36:43]  So would you say that don't impress you much?
[00:36:45]  Right.
[00:36:45]  I was trying to work a Shania Twain reference in there.
[00:36:47]  Yeah.
[00:36:48]  So in this next clip, we find out something that's very big.
[00:36:52]  And that is that Alex has a new sponsor.
[00:36:54]  And this is a new sponsor because I've used this product, I believe, in nano-silver.
[00:37:02]  The smaller the particle, the better.
[00:37:04]  And silver is one of the oldest antibiotics.
[00:37:07]  There's a lot of great silver products out there.
[00:37:09]  But I've tested this one out with sore throats, with other things like that.
[00:37:14]  You know, 15% of kids have that thing where they get a few warts on them.
[00:37:18]  My son had that, put silver on it, knocked it right out.
[00:37:24]  Doctor office recommended silver.
[00:37:27]  So, again, ladies and gentlemen, new silver solution.
[00:37:32]  Silver is one of the oldest natural antibiotics.
[00:37:34]  Go to SuperSilver, SupernaturalSilver.com.
[00:37:38]  So, that's it.
[00:37:40]  Supernatural Silver is the name of the business.
[00:37:42]  Right.
[00:37:43]  Homeopathy is the name of the business.
[00:37:45]  Alex has a new sponsor.
[00:37:46]  This is an outfit called Supernatural Silver.
[00:37:49]  From everything I can tell, this is the first instance of Alex selling silver-based health products, which is something he'd continue to do for years, so that's fun.
[00:37:57]  Colloidal silver!
[00:37:57]  Interestingly, I can't prove that Supernatural Silver is an actual, legit company.
[00:38:02]  Or at least not...
[00:38:04]  You should really be able to prove something is a company.
[00:38:08]  Well, I can't, and I couldn't based on that name.
[00:38:11]  Right.
[00:38:12]  Their website lists a P.O. box in Huntsville, Utah as their address, which leads you to believe that they would be filed as a business with the state of Utah.
[00:38:20]  But if you search the Utah business registration website, there is no company called Supernatural Silver on file, even including businesses whose filings have expired.
[00:38:30]  It could be that the company is incorporated in a different state.
[00:38:33]  But it's not.
[00:38:34]  If you search the site in the Wayback Machine, SupernaturalSilver.com, you can find their Terms of Service page from like 2010, 2011.
[00:38:44]  And it clearly says that they're operated out of the state of Utah.
[00:38:49]  WeAreAScam.com It's all very weird.
[00:38:51]  Nothing makes sense about it.
[00:38:52]  Their customer-facing elements don't make it seem like it's that big of a company.
[00:38:56]  For instance, I found their Twitter and they only have 70 followers.
[00:38:59]  And they haven't tweeted since August 2018.
[00:39:02]  Are they okay?
[00:39:03]  Their website is just a bunch of products.
[00:39:06]  Like a list of products you can buy that takes you to a checkout screen.
[00:39:09]  It's super minimal.
[00:39:10]  So at that point...
[00:39:11]  Going this far through it, I was like, well, I don't know.
[00:39:15]  I've been able to establish that based on their Terms of Service page, you can get on the Wayback Machine, they are calling themselves Supernatural Silver.
[00:39:23]  That's the business name as described there.
[00:39:26]  That isn't in the Utah.gov registry of business names, but there's one place left to look for info.
[00:39:33]  They claim that supernatural silver is copyright, and they own the copyright to it.
[00:39:37]  So if that's the case, then there's a file in the Government Patents and Copyright Office.
[00:39:42]  So I ran a search on that and found them.
[00:39:45]  And this is where things get a little bit interesting.
[00:39:47]  For one, the copyright has lapsed now, so it's wide open if you have a silver business.
[00:39:52]  Second, the actual name of their business is Silver Panacea LLC.
[00:39:56]  They don't have a doing business as name on file for Supernatural Silver, which is what they're presenting as the business's name.
[00:40:03]  So that's a little bit dicey.
[00:40:04]  I'm not sure if that's illegal in Utah, as it is in Texas, when we looked into the Fortified Supply stuff.
[00:40:10]  I don't know about Utah's laws, so I'm going to leave that one up in the air.
[00:40:15]  However...
[00:40:15]  Because we can now find the business information about the company, because we have the business's name, we can find out more about it.
[00:40:21]  Like the fact that, though they filed their LLC paperwork on March 11th, 2009, they claim in their copyright application that the first time they did business was April 9th, 2009, a mere five days before the episode that we're listening to, which is nuts.
[00:40:36]  That is an aggressive media blitz right there.
[00:40:40]  That is very weird.
[00:40:41]  Getting their name out.
[00:40:42]  Come on.
[00:40:44]  On InfoWars.
[00:40:46]  The business tracking site BuzzFile cites an estimate that Silver Panacea brings in about $73,000 annually.
[00:40:52]  So my suspicion that it's not that large of a company seems pretty accurate.
[00:40:56]  Manta, another business information tracking site, estimates the same annual revenue.
[00:41:00]  If these estimates are accurate, that you have a minuscule business that hasn't even been operating a week somehow being able to afford advertising on Alex Jones' show when his rates should have been at least competitive at that time.
[00:41:11]  Which seems legitimately impossible to me.
[00:41:14]  None of this makes sense.
[00:41:16]  Well, what you've got to understand is that it's really just one dude who had...
[00:41:20]  I think it's a woman.
[00:41:21]  I apologize.
[00:41:22]  I should have said person.
[00:41:24]  You're right.
[00:41:24]  I just assume it's a dude because they're advertising on Infowars.
[00:41:29]  So it's just one woman who was...
[00:41:33]  Gifted a bunch of silver.
[00:41:34]  Like a lot of silver.
[00:41:36]  A lot of silver bars.
[00:41:39]  So she doesn't really have any overhead other than mailing shit.
[00:41:42]  So she probably makes a good 60 grand a year.
[00:41:44]  And if she needs more money, she just sells some of the silver.
[00:41:49]  As a bar.
[00:41:50]  I'm very suspicious of the sponsorship, but until I can learn more, I have to leave it at that.
[00:41:55]  It's a suspicion.
[00:41:56]  It's entirely possible that the person who started this business was independently wealthy, took a huge gamble with the sponsorship on Alex's show, hoping for a big return.
[00:42:04]  I'm going to keep my eyes on this one and let you know what comes up.
[00:42:07]  And if it turns out that it is just some rich person in Utah making a really dumb financial investment, I'm ready to accept that possibility.
[00:42:14]  Yeah.
[00:42:14]  But something stinks.
[00:42:15]  It seems like a good place to do that.
[00:42:18]  Although, on the other hand, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the third book, does explicitly say that if you are doing business in a different name, you do have to register as doing business ads.
[00:42:34]  That is in that book, yeah.
[00:42:35]  That is really in there.
[00:42:36]  Something is up there.
[00:42:37]  I don't know what it is.
[00:42:38]  I'm interested.
[00:42:39]  And I'm going to keep looking into it and see what I can find.
[00:42:42]  But for now...
[00:42:43]  It's either just someone who's throwing money away, or Alex's rates might be nothing.
[00:42:49]  It could be an indication that some business that literally just started, and I don't think that they've ever been all that huge.
[00:42:59]  If they're making $73,000 a year now, still in operation, what were they ever making?
[00:43:07]  What were their tweets like?
[00:43:09]  What would you tweet if you were a business that has 70...
[00:43:12]  Oh, like health articles.
[00:43:13]  Pseudo health articles, stuff like that.
[00:43:14]  Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
[00:43:15]  That was most of it.
[00:43:16]  They're sharing lies in order to spread...
[00:43:18]  Silver.
[00:43:19]  ...by silver.
[00:43:20]  Yeah, gotcha.
[00:43:21]  So, Jordan, at this point, we're going to get to the clip that almost killed me.

=== Clarence Thomas's Racist Remark (09:34) ===

[00:43:25]  That destroyed you.
[00:43:26]  This is a mic down clip, and you might need to hear it twice to believe what you hear.
[00:43:33]  But at this point, Jim Tucker proves that he works for Willis Carto.
[00:43:38]  And one of the strongest patriots on the Supreme Court is Clarence Thomas, who, although he is himself a Negro, is hated by liberals for opposing affirmative action.
[00:43:52]  There's euphemism for racial preferences.
[00:43:58]  All right.
[00:44:00]  Well, Jim Tucker, we appreciate you coming on the show.
[00:44:04]  We appreciate your...
[00:44:05]  Close to 50-something years covering news.
[00:44:09]  I am convinced.
[00:44:10]  I listen to that a ton of times.
[00:44:13]  I'm sure that's a hard R-N word.
[00:44:15]  I am convinced of that.
[00:44:19]  You hear the R in there.
[00:44:23]  There's no way it was just what he said earlier about the cigarette taxes.
[00:44:27]  That came out of his mouth so fucking easy, he knows he's on the radio.
[00:44:32]  Ah.
[00:44:33]  He just called Clarence Thomas the N-word.
[00:44:37]  How crazy is that?
[00:44:40]  They didn't have an audio delay back then?
[00:44:42]  I guess not.
[00:44:44]  You didn't have a five-second delay?
[00:44:46]  You didn't have a five-second delay?
[00:44:48]  You didn't have anybody on the board going, N-word, no!
[00:44:52]  Get a giant fucking red button.
[00:44:54]  That's a damning indictment of Info Wars.
[00:44:57]  Because they didn't even see fit to drop that.
[00:44:59]  They were like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:45:02]  That's a great N-word.
[00:45:05]  I'm not going to play it again, but you guys can go back and listen if you want to.
[00:45:09]  If you want to try and prove to yourself that that is a hard R-N-word.
[00:45:15]  Because it is.
[00:45:17]  Here's a larger issue.
[00:45:18]  It doesn't matter either way.
[00:45:20]  That is a very racist thing to say!
[00:45:23]  Oh yeah, that's important.
[00:45:24]  That's important to you.
[00:45:25]  I missed the forest for the trees.
[00:45:26]  Oh, he didn't give the hard R. Oh, he was trying to...
[00:45:29]  No!
[00:45:30]  No, no, no!
[00:45:31]  I'm gonna go with that super racist either way.
[00:45:33]  Also, Clarence Thomas agrees with you more than anybody else.
[00:45:37]  Well, that's why he's a great patriot.
[00:45:39]  Yeah!
[00:45:40]  Yeah, and you are right.
[00:45:42]  Like, no matter what the word there actually is, what he was expressing was, even though Clarence Thomas is this word, He's still against affirmative action, and that's great.
[00:45:53]  That's the most, he's one of the good ones you could ever hear.
[00:45:57]  Whatever that word was, was a bad word for black people.
[00:46:00]  You know what?
[00:46:01]  I would racially say that he was articulate, but he's literally never asked a question in open hearing.
[00:46:06]  So, go fuck him.
[00:46:08]  Jesus Christ.
[00:46:09]  Jim Tucker dropped an M-bomb on Infowars.
[00:46:12]  I've never heard that before.
[00:46:13]  I've listened to hundreds and hundreds of hours of Alex's show.
[00:46:16]  I've never heard a guest so casually say the N-word.
[00:46:20]  I've never heard anyone say it, period, on the show.
[00:46:23]  Boy, really threw that one out there, huh?
[00:46:26]  Yeah.
[00:46:27]  Just unbothered.
[00:46:30]  And it was.
[00:46:31]  Alex and Jim have hung out a ton.
[00:46:33]  So the casualness with which he used that word...
[00:46:37]  Hey, we want to thank you for being here.
[00:46:38]  You're a great patriot.
[00:46:40]  Thank you for your 50 years of service.
[00:46:42]  And finally dropping the N-word on my show, because it's been a long time coming.
[00:46:46]  Well, no, because Alex gets him off, like, immediately.
[00:46:48]  Oh, yeah.
[00:46:49]  You saw him be like...
[00:46:50]  Yeah, Jim, well, I don't know if that's supposed to be the end of their interview, but he does still say, like, hey, great, thanks for joining us.
[00:46:56]  He goes on to plug his book and all that stuff, but you could see a sense of, like, I'm not going to let him talk without guidance for a bit.
[00:47:03]  But my point is that the two of them have hung out a ton.
[00:47:06]  Alex looks up to him.
[00:47:07]  They go together to Bilderberg sometime, to Bullhorn and shit.
[00:47:10]  They have bull sessions.
[00:47:12]  He's, like...
[00:47:13]  Jim Tucker is clearly a guy who likes his booze.
[00:47:16]  He insisted on being interviewed in a bar in Endgame.
[00:47:19]  He's drinking quite a bit during that interview.
[00:47:22]  The two of them have drunk together.
[00:47:25]  So they have a knowledge of each other.
[00:47:27]  And whatever the case is, I'm not saying I know anything.
[00:47:30]  But I do know that Jim Tucker thought it was cool to say the N-word on Alex's show.
[00:47:34]  In front of Alex.
[00:47:35]  On his show!
[00:47:36]  Yeah.
[00:47:37]  That's the kind of friendship they must have.
[00:47:39]  And I'm not saying that's a good friendship.
[00:47:41]  I'm saying that's a type of friendship.
[00:47:43]  Oh, boy.
[00:47:43]  Oh, man.
[00:47:44]  Alex has done nothing in the time that they've known each other to make it clear to Jim that doesn't fly here.
[00:47:50]  Oh, no, no.
[00:47:51]  And he doesn't scold him on air.
[00:47:52]  No, of course not.
[00:47:53]  He doesn't say, Jim, look, there's some words that are appropriate.
[00:47:56]  There's some aren't.
[00:47:57]  It's a mess, man.
[00:47:58]  I didn't know what to do with that.
[00:47:59]  Jim, Jim.
[00:47:59]  This is why I couldn't make it to the 15th.
[00:48:01]  Jim, look, I'm a racist on my show all the time.
[00:48:05]  I want you to be a racist on my show all the time.
[00:48:08]  But we can't do that, because then people would know.
[00:48:11]  I know you're 70, but come on.
[00:48:14]  Come on!
[00:48:15]  We gotta use code, baby!
[00:48:17]  What are you, an 85-year-old woman sitting on her porch in fucking Georgia?
[00:48:21]  Christ!
[00:48:22]  Well, yes I am.
[00:48:24]  Jim Tucker does character.
[00:48:26]  Now, I prefer you refer to me as Mrs. Tucker, thank you very much.
[00:48:30]  So, Alex gets Jim off the show.
[00:48:33]  He plugs his book and then says, like, we've got to set up a time when you're in Bilderberg at Greece that we can do an interview and stuff like that.
[00:48:40]  They do an off-air meeting on air because it's safe.
[00:48:43]  He's not going to say anything fucked up if you're just like, what's the time difference in Greece?
[00:48:47]  I don't know, but all those N-words are running.
[00:48:49]  What?
[00:48:50]  Hold on.
[00:48:52]  Did you know they changed from Gregorian calendar because all those N-words?
[00:48:57]  I'm going down to Greece with all these Hephaestus-looking motherfuckers running around.
[00:49:03]  Yikes.
[00:49:03]  I don't know.
[00:49:04]  So he gets him off the air.
[00:49:06]  And this is why I had to make kind of a point about how that was a hard R, N-word.
[00:49:11]  It's because as soon as Jim gets off the air, Alex realizes what's been done.
[00:49:16]  That Jim just said the N-word on his show.
[00:49:19]  So now Alex has to pretend that he said a different word.
[00:49:23]  And he's got to spin it.
[00:49:24]  And the way he does it is not good.
[00:49:28]  You know, one of my pet peeves is people not knowing what words mean and semantics, because I know I'm going to get emails from ignorant people.
[00:49:35]  Remember Robin Page, who we had on, BBC reporter, was in the BBC News?
[00:49:40]  Oh, no.
[00:49:40]  He did a report on rural affairs, and he gave a speech saying rural communities deserve the same rights as homosexuals and Muslims.
[00:49:47]  He was arrested.
[00:49:48]  And the British police, five years ago, said the word homosexual is a hate word.
[00:49:53]  Now, heterosexual, homosexual.
[00:49:56]  That's just a scientific name for your sexual preference.
[00:49:59]  And it's the same thing with Anglo-Negro.
[00:50:02]  And I was watching a documentary about the 50s and 60s civil rights movement, and it showed the black folks saying, we demand to be called that.
[00:50:10]  And then nowadays the public's so ignorant, somebody uses the old-fashioned term.
[00:50:14]  And then they all freak out.
[00:50:16]  See, that shows how screwed up the public is.
[00:50:18]  They don't care if the government funds HIV and black folks' vaccines.
[00:50:22]  It's just don't use a scientific term.
[00:50:24]  I just wanted to add that before I get emails.
[00:50:26]  You need to learn not to be so ignorant out there.
[00:50:28]  We'll be right back, folks.
[00:50:30]  So that's the reason I needed to make a point of this.
[00:50:33]  Is that a scientific term?
[00:50:36]  No, no.
[00:50:37]  I think what Alex is trying to present is that that's the word that Jim said.
[00:50:42]  And it's not.
[00:50:43]  No.
[00:50:43]  It is not.
[00:50:44]  I listened to that so many times just to make it clear, not justify to myself, but even if he...
[00:50:52]  Your version of it is totally correct.
[00:50:54]  Whatever word he used, there was racial intent in it, and it is not good.
[00:50:59]  It's a very racist sentence.
[00:51:00]  But because of Alex's response to it...
[00:51:03]  And they'll be like, it's so ignorant.
[00:51:05]  I'm just going to get ignorant emails from people who don't understand words and semantics.
[00:51:10]  Yeah, that's us.
[00:51:10]  That's on our part, Dan.
[00:51:12]  But that's why it's important for me to delineate.
[00:51:15]  That's not the word he said.
[00:51:17]  Still bad, no matter what he said, but he did say that.
[00:51:20]  Alex is trying to get defensive about it, hoping...
[00:51:23]  There aren't tapes, but there were tapes.
[00:51:25]  Oh, yeah, there's tapes.
[00:51:26]  There's tapes.
[00:51:26]  Oh, man, five-second delay, Alex.
[00:51:28]  That would make sense why later on we definitely see him pointing out there's a five-second delay with that one fucking kid.
[00:51:35]  Oh, Christ.
[00:51:37]  But that's the point.
[00:51:40]  Even if that guy says African-American, you're saying the N-word.
[00:51:45]  He would pronounce it real harsh.
[00:51:47]  Yeah, homosexual is not a bad word, but out of your fucking mouth, it's a bad word.
[00:51:53]  Well, we already talked about that British dude, too, that Alex is trying to use as justification, and that doesn't even work based on what he was up to.
[00:52:00]  So, anyway, that was really crazy, and, like...
[00:52:03]  I did all the looking into and writing up on the American Free Press and Willis Cardo before I even got to that part of the episode.
[00:52:12]  I'm like, well, I'm glad I wrote that up.
[00:52:15]  This dude was their editor.
[00:52:16]  You get it now.
[00:52:18]  You get how these people are.
[00:52:20]  Yeah.
[00:52:21]  So, anyway, in this next clip, Alex just says something really stupid, and it's in the context of a caller who's calling in, and he's presenting, like, look, I don't know how it happened, but I've got TB.
[00:52:32]  I got, or not TB, I have hepatitis C. Okay.
[00:52:36]  He's got hepatitis C, and he's like, I don't know, I got tattoos, but I thought I got them at all the places that are licensed or have checks from the departments and what have you.

=== Leprosy and Medication Misconceptions (07:17) ===

[00:52:47]  I don't know, I got it somehow.
[00:52:49]  Should I take my medication for it?
[00:52:51]  Oh, God, no.
[00:52:51]  I don't want to hear the answer to that question.
[00:52:53]  We're not going to get to it just yet.
[00:52:54]  But he's like, I don't know.
[00:52:55]  Is it just going to make me worse?
[00:52:57]  I'm worried that the government is trying to give me things with my hepatitis C medication.
[00:53:02]  Right, right, right, right, right.
[00:53:04]  Cool, cool, cool.
[00:53:05]  And so Alex starts talking about, first of all, he's like, I'm not a doctor.
[00:53:08]  I can't give medical advice.
[00:53:09]  And then he starts talking about a bunch of other diseases.
[00:53:14]  We've gone from one case in 2004.
[00:53:19]  Of leprosy, and no cases before that for decades, to 7,000 in 2005, 2006, the next year.
[00:53:26]  You can pull these numbers up.
[00:53:27]  From where?
[00:53:28]  And then we haven't seen numbers since then.
[00:53:31]  We've gone, I mean, hepatitis, everything's off the charts.
[00:53:35]  And you can get hepatitis from somebody making your hamburger at a fast food place.
[00:53:39]  That doesn't sound right.
[00:53:40]  And in Mexico, they spray the farms with human feces, and then people have gotten hepatitis from that.
[00:53:47]  It's third world food.
[00:53:49]  It's third world food.
[00:53:50]  I don't really care about that so much.
[00:53:51]  I want to talk about leprosy for just a second.
[00:53:53]  According to a 2014 report from the Centers for Disease Control, there were 2,300 new cases of leprosy diagnosed in the United States between 1994 and 2011.
[00:54:03]  That 7,000 number cannot possibly be accurate because he's clearly talking about the United States.
[00:54:08]  He's talking about things that get brought in and that sort of thing.
[00:54:11]  So that number can't...
[00:54:12]  He's just making shit up.
[00:54:14]  That's not accurate at all.
[00:54:16]  Well, I think what he's trying to say there is that there were no cases, then there was one case, then there were 7,000 cases, and then there were no cases.
[00:54:26]  So I think his point that he's trying to make is they did this as like a test and then stopped doing it.
[00:54:33]  I don't think that's...
[00:54:34]  I mean, he is saying something that's supposed to raise suspicions, obviously.
[00:54:38]  But I don't think that's the point he's trying to make.
[00:54:40]  I think it's that they're bringing it in.
[00:54:42]  Because the third world food and stuff like that is supposed to, I think it's supposed to anchor in your brain is the idea of like third world places are bringing all that leprosy in along with the TB and the lettuce or whatever.
[00:54:54]  And so, I mean, it's just not accurate.
[00:54:56]  I mean, even if it were global statistics he was talking about, like let's say that 7,000 number is accurate for the entire world.
[00:55:03]  That one number isn't from the year before.
[00:55:06]  Nope.
[00:55:06]  So there's no way he can be using consistent numbers to make his point at all.
[00:55:12]  The only way to look at the numbers he's presenting is he's either cheating big time or he's just making it up.
[00:55:20]  And I think it's the latter.
[00:55:21]  I think he's just making it up.
[00:55:22]  You know what's kind of fun, though?
[00:55:24]  That sounds to me like a little bit like Obama's dog is in a rescue as their scandal for immigration.
[00:55:33]  Like, instead of they're going to rape everyone you know.
[00:55:37]  Like, alright!
[00:55:38]  Oh, we just might get a little bit of leprosy?
[00:55:41]  That's not too bad.
[00:55:42]  I mean, it depends on if you're the person getting that little bit of leprosy.
[00:55:45]  Well, I mean, hey.
[00:55:46]  You win some, you lose some.
[00:55:48]  You just got to throw those dice.
[00:55:49]  So now we get to the bad part of Alex's response to this guy's call.
[00:55:53]  I set up what he was talking about because here Alex gets to the end of his response and he says something super irresponsible.
[00:56:02]  Just to finish another question, the interferon and all that, there's a lot of studies, a lot of experts, a lot of doctors that say...
[00:56:07]  It's the drugs that supposedly treat you for HIV and other similar things that actually kill you quicker, but whatever.
[00:56:17]  Let's talk to Chip in Michigan.
[00:56:19]  No, you don't get to just say that.
[00:56:22]  Do you know what else?
[00:56:23]  A lot of doctors is not enough doctors.
[00:56:26]  You don't get to start your answer by saying, I'm not a doctor, I can't give medical advice, and then end your answer with...
[00:56:33]  A lot of doctors, a lot of experts, a lot of people say medications just make you worse, but whatever.
[00:56:38]  That but whatever at the end there is particularly distasteful because it's supposed to imply dismissal of his own argument in order to highlight that that's the argument he's actually making.
[00:56:49]  It's like, these doctors say that this is the case, but whatever.
[00:56:53]  Go take your medication.
[00:56:54]  That's the tone that he's trying to evoke in that.
[00:56:57]  Absolutely.
[00:56:57]  That's really dangerous.
[00:56:59]  He's telling this person not to take their medication.
[00:57:03]  They need to...
[00:57:04]  You maintain a chronic condition.
[00:57:05]  Yeah, no, he's literally saying, I am not a doctor, but because I know so many doctors who have said this, I am giving you second-hand medical advice, and that second-hand medical advice is if you take your HIV medication, you will die.
[00:57:20]  In his case, it's hep C, but yeah.
[00:57:23]  But anyone listening could get that negative message for any kind of thing.
[00:57:27]  They have meds they need to take.
[00:57:29]  And it's just, I mean, it's insane.
[00:57:30]  Like, yes, there are some medications for chronic conditions that have horrible side effects, but the conditions that they take care of also have horrible side effects.
[00:57:41]  And just trying to make propaganda out of the idea that, like, there is a small percentage of people who will have terribly negative reactions to things.
[00:57:49]  Therefore, no one should take those.
[00:57:51]  It's so bad.
[00:57:52]  It's just so bad.
[00:57:53]  And that's what he's putting in.
[00:57:55]  I can't stress, he started this show saying that if you don't like taxes, you can fight back with the Second Amendment.
[00:58:01]  We have him allowing Jim Tucker to say the N-word on his show, and now he's telling a dude straight up, if you read between the lines of what he's saying, don't take your meds.
[00:58:08]  This is fucked up.
[00:58:10]  That's a really interesting argument, I would say, for free speech.
[00:58:16]  Do you know what I'm saying?
[00:58:17]  Like, if you say something that literally leads to the death of a person, and that's purely because they believed what you say, that's a really fascinating question.
[00:58:27]  Yeah, I know.
[00:58:27]  I don't actually know what to do with that.
[00:58:29]  I thought about it a bit, but I don't know what line I draw on it.
[00:58:32]  I don't know.
[00:58:33]  How could you?
[00:58:34]  Would somebody have to die, or would just grievous bodily harm, or just the risk?
[00:58:41]  I would say I hope that...
[00:58:43]  First of all, I'm never the person who has to decide those sorts of things.
[00:58:47]  I'd hope that you'd have a court case.
[00:58:48]  Well, everyone expects me to be that, so I'm trying to get your input.
[00:58:52]  You're the moral center.
[00:58:53]  Yeah, of course.
[00:58:54]  I don't know.
[00:58:54]  I don't know.
[00:58:55]  I think, I mean, if you're like a family member of, like, let's say this guy stops taking his hep C medication and dies.
[00:59:02]  Let's just say, just as an example.
[00:59:04]  Right.
[00:59:04]  His family members could have this audio of him literally calling into Alex's show and him saying, there's a lot of people who think your meds are worse for you than your condition.
[00:59:13]  Yeah.
[00:59:14]  I don't know.
[00:59:15]  I don't know if that makes him culpable for giving bad advice.
[00:59:19]  Right?
[00:59:19]  I don't know.
[00:59:20]  It's dangerous.
[00:59:21]  It's super dangerous.
[00:59:22]  It seems worse and more dangerous than yelling fire in a crowded theater.
[00:59:27]  You know?
[00:59:28]  Although that, I don't know.
[00:59:30]  That could cause a stampede, which, yeah, that's a whole...
[00:59:34]  I mean, it's the same sort of principle, though.
[00:59:36]  It's like the speech you're making is fine, but the consequences of your speech sometimes aren't.
[00:59:42]  And as much as, like, threatening somebody, it's not the words that are the problem, it's the implied threat behind them that are the words.

=== Orlando Tea Party Prep (06:39) ===

[00:59:50]  Or extorting somebody.
[00:59:51]  Yeah, there's nothing wrong with saying getting, or get ready, or to, or die.
[00:59:59]  But if you say them all in a row, that's a problem.
[01:00:04]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:00:05]  It's a complicated line, and I don't think we have an answer on it.
[01:00:07]  But anyway, at this point, Alex takes another call from a guy, and this guy is going to the Orlando Tea Party the next day, and he has some big news for Alex about something he's bringing with him.
[01:00:19]  I'm also going to Disneyland!
[01:00:21]  I guess with the tea parties that are going on, there's definitely going to be a big one here in Orlando tomorrow.
[01:00:28]  At Eola Park.
[01:00:29]  It's supposed to be about 6,000 people, but we do have a group of about 20 people and a couple of bullhorns.
[01:00:36]  We're going to go down there tomorrow.
[01:00:37]  We have...
[01:00:38]  Journey crushers.
[01:00:39]  One, three, two.
[01:00:40]  Probably more by then.
[01:00:41]  To give out with the Obama deception and all kind of other stuff.
[01:00:45]  This guy gets it.
[01:00:46]  And I want to encourage people who are in Florida who are wanting to get active.
[01:00:51]  Maybe this is the first time you're hearing this and you don't know where to go to.
[01:00:54]  You can go to www.meetup.com backslash Orlando911Truth.
[01:01:00]  We do a lot of stuff.
[01:01:01]  And last thing that I'll let you go, Alex, I know you've got a lot to do, but we're going to have a special celebrity endorsement tomorrow.
[01:01:07]  We've got a life-size Barack Obama cutout we're taking to the rally with us with a speech bubble that says, new administration, same agenda, one world government.
[01:01:19]  Well done.
[01:01:20]  Well done.
[01:01:21]  Good to hear from you.
[01:01:22]  So that's not too bad.
[01:01:24]  But we do know, because we live in 2019, that one of the features of Tea Parties moving forward from here in Tea Party protests...
[01:01:31]  Burning effigies of Obama!
[01:01:32]  Right.
[01:01:33]  So, I'm not saying that this guy in any way facilitated that, but it's really, or is the inspiration or anything like that.
[01:01:41]  This guy is just doing something, it's a goofy sign, whatever.
[01:01:44]  It's just interesting that before this tax day, largest number of Tea Parties around the country...
[01:01:52]  That sort of thing was there in its sort of more innocent phase that would turn super dark pretty quick.
[01:01:59]  And I think it's a function of the fact that at this point, I don't think that the Tea Party really had lost the thread yet.
[01:02:05]  At least before tax day, there was a focus, it seems, mostly on being against taxes, that sort of thing.
[01:02:14]  It makes sense that this guy would bring a big Obama cutout and it'd just be like, he's a New World Order or whatever, as opposed to what it becomes, which is like, you know, hanging dolls of Obama and burning them and stuff like that.
[01:02:26]  Like, that's...
[01:02:27]  It's interesting to me.
[01:02:28]  It pivots.
[01:02:29]  It pivots somewhere.
[01:02:30]  Alex, we were gonna put in that speech bubble...
[01:02:35]  New administration, same agenda.
[01:02:37]  But then we were listening to your show earlier, and Bill Tucker, or Jim Tucker, said something that's gotta go in that speech bubble now.
[01:02:47]  Oh, and that's another thing, too.
[01:02:49]  None of the callers seem to be upset about Tucker.
[01:02:51]  No, of course not.
[01:02:52]  If I were on hold and I heard that, I'd be like, Alex!
[01:02:55]  They don't have a five-second delay, but they do have a call screener at this point in time.
[01:02:58]  Alex, you can't let fucking Big Jim Tucker drop N-bombs, man.
[01:03:02]  Come on.
[01:03:02]  And you can't pretend you didn't hear it when you rushed him off the phone like that.
[01:03:06]  You can't respond that way and then be like, listen, all you dumb-dumbs, he said a different word.
[01:03:11]  It's scientific.
[01:03:13]  Fuck off.
[01:03:13]  Get out of here.
[01:03:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:03:15]  If he hadn't have defended it...
[01:03:17]  There would definitely have been more of an ambiguousness.
[01:03:22]  But as opposed to him jumping in and being like, a lot of people are going to get that word wrong.
[01:03:27]  And you're like, ah, ah, ah, you know.
[01:03:29]  You know.
[01:03:29]  There's no ambiguity for me in terms of what Jim said.
[01:03:33]  But there would be a bit of plausible deniability in what Alex heard if he hadn't defended it.
[01:03:40]  Because he didn't say anything after that cigarette tax dropping of that word.
[01:03:44]  It's not like Alex responded and needed to be like...
[01:03:47]  Well, look, I know, Jim, you know, it's a scientific word.
[01:03:51]  People are going to get mad or whatever.
[01:03:52]  He didn't respond that way.
[01:03:53]  He just let the conversation roll.
[01:03:54]  He responded that way because he heard the fucking hard R and word.
[01:03:58]  And he's like, I got to save this.
[01:04:01]  Yeah.
[01:04:02]  And his callers just, I mean, they either accepted whatever his version of it was or they just didn't care either.
[01:04:08]  Or they were like, bout time!
[01:04:11]  Right.
[01:04:11]  Bout time!
[01:04:12]  I've been waiting 20 years.
[01:04:14]  I know.
[01:04:14]  I have been listening to you, Alex.
[01:04:17]  And every show I keep thinking, is this going to be the show where we finally get the N-word?
[01:04:24]  Today is the day.
[01:04:25]  Today is a fucking red-letter day.
[01:04:28]  And that red letter is a hard R. Jesus.
[01:04:32]  Also, I don't mean to say this as a compliment to Alex in any way, but he rolled with it amazingly well.
[01:04:38]  Like, to the point where...
[01:04:39]  I actually think I mean this in a negative way.
[01:04:41]  He seemed unfazed.
[01:04:43]  Yeah.
[01:04:43]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:04:44]  No, that's an absolutely negative thing.
[01:04:46]  The way he was able to pivot it to, like, hey, Jim, it's been great to have you on the show, plugged his book, made sure not to get into a fight with him, and then got defensive as soon as he got off the phone on Jim's behalf.
[01:04:56]  Yeah.
[01:04:57]  It seemed like it...
[01:04:58]  That isn't something he didn't think could happen and was at least a little prepared for on some level.
[01:05:04]  I legitimately can't think of any situation where a friend of mine would just suddenly drop that word and I'd be like, and let's keep going.
[01:05:12]  Let's keep going with this little beat.
[01:05:14]  Oh, we're on the riff train.
[01:05:15]  I'm just going to slide right past that.
[01:05:16]  It'd be like, nope.
[01:05:20]  Go fuck yourself.
[01:05:22]  So we actually only have one more clip on this episode that we're going over here on the 14th.
[01:05:27]  And it's an interesting thing that goes on.
[01:05:30]  For most of the show, Alex is teasing a guest that he's going to have on.
[01:05:34]  And it's this guy that he only identifies as an economist from Argentina.
[01:05:40]  Okay.
[01:05:41]  And that economist is?
[01:05:44]  Well, he doesn't say.
[01:05:46]  Lionel Messi, everybody!
[01:05:50]  This guy might be as much of an accountant as Messi.
[01:05:52]  The greatest soccer player of all time!
[01:05:55]  Have you seen the way he moves?
[01:05:57]  So this dude is like, he's having phone troubles.
[01:06:01]  So the interview gets pushed back a bit and Alex takes more calls and they're all just kind of inconsequential and boring.
[01:06:07]  It doesn't really matter.

=== Adrian Salvucci: Argentinian Economist (08:38) ===

[01:06:08]  But finally, Alex gets to him.
[01:06:11]  And, well, actually, this is a clip of him having trouble getting him on the phone, where he finally reveals who this Argentinian economist is.
[01:06:19]  It's Juan Martín del Póltro!
[01:06:22]  Great tennis player!
[01:06:23]  He had so many injuries for a long time after defeating Federer at the U.S. Open, tearing apart the Big Four, but instead...
[01:06:31]  Oh, for two.
[01:06:32]  Okay, sorry.
[01:06:33]  This is always happening.
[01:06:35]  Adrian Salvucci, the economist in Argentina, documenting what their collapse was like by design with the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.
[01:06:43]  Having trouble getting connected to him in Argentina.
[01:06:46]  He does eventually get him on the phone, and I'm not going to give him the courtesy of playing anything he says.
[01:06:52]  Very nice.
[01:06:53]  Because it's just...
[01:06:54]  I mean, you can expect it.
[01:06:55]  It's just globalist bullshit talk and whatever.
[01:06:57]  Of course.
[01:06:57]  But here's the thing.
[01:06:58]  Alex says his name, and so I'm able to tell you who he is.
[01:07:03]  Adrian Salbucci is the economist that Alex has on to discuss the hardships of Argentina and how the globalists are destroying their economy.
[01:07:11]  Of course.
[01:07:11]  Alex, however, fails to point out that Salbucci is an ultra-nationalist and part of a group called Project Second Republic, which aims to bring a new independence to Argentina.
[01:07:21]  A new independence from whom, you might ask?
[01:07:24]  I think you already know.
[01:07:26]  It's the Jews.
[01:07:27]  Sal Bucci and his group believe in a conspiracy known as the Andinia Plan, which took some plans regarding Jewish emigration to South America in the late 19th century and early 20th century and exaggerated them into being Jewish plans to take over Argentina and establish a second Jewish state there.
[01:07:47]  The theory has been a mainstay of Argentinian neo-Nazi propaganda for decades, and this Sal Bucci guy is all about it.
[01:07:54]  Sal Bucci has been denounced in 2014 by the delegation of Argentine-Israelite associations for his anti-Semitic comments, which shouldn't be surprising, considering that he seems to make a habit of being interviewed by Holocaust deniers, like this guy James Fetzer, who he got interviewed by, who once wrote, quote, My research on the Holocaust narrative suggests it's not only untrue, but probably false.
[01:08:16]  Salbucci also posted a YouTube video on his own channel entitled, quote, The Truth About the Protocols of the Sages of Zion, which unsurprisingly was not a debunking video.
[01:08:26]  Oh, yeah?
[01:08:26]  No.
[01:08:27]  I don't know all of this, but it kind of concerns me that anti-Semitism flourishes in a place where I may be incorrect in assuming this, but I feel like there are not a ton of Jews living in Argentina.
[01:08:44]  No, there's a number of, it's a place that there was in like the 1880s and after, there was some Jewish emigration there.
[01:08:53]  South America was attractive to a number of Jewish folk.
[01:08:56]  Really?
[01:08:57]  I did not know that.
[01:08:58]  I don't understand all of the dynamics of that necessarily, but there are some communities down there.
[01:09:03]  But also you've got to consider that a lot of fucking Nazis hid there too.
[01:09:08]  The boys from Brazil and what have you.
[01:09:11]  That is true.
[01:09:12]  So Mengele was down there in South America.
[01:09:15]  That is a good point.
[01:09:15]  I did not consider that.
[01:09:16]  So a lot of that influence may also linger in some hyper-nationalist situations there.
[01:09:23]  And so this guy, this Adrian Salbucci, that's his flavor.
[01:09:28]  He's not an economist who wants to talk about the globalists in Alex's supposed conception of them coming in and like economic takeover and what have you.
[01:09:39]  He's a dude who believes that the Jews are trying to create another issue.
[01:09:43]  I really feel like you can't be considered an economist if part of the basis of your worldview of economy is, first we've got to kick out the Jews.
[01:09:53]  That kind of run...
[01:09:54]  Like, that's not part of the Chicago School of Economics?
[01:09:57]  Austrian?
[01:09:58]  I'm pretty sure it is part of the Austrian School of Economics.
[01:10:01]  I don't think Thomas Piketty was adding in, like, oh, and by the way, the 5G bankers.
[01:10:06]  What about Ludwig von Mies?
[01:10:08]  That guy.
[01:10:09]  Oh, boy.
[01:10:10]  I think he was more just about being a dick.
[01:10:12]  And Salducci, a fucking...
[01:10:16]  I don't know if I would call him a neo-Nazi necessarily, but he's close.
[01:10:20]  He has a lot of leanings, some sympathies, and absolutely anti-Semitic things that he's brought into the world and that he stands for.
[01:10:27]  So the idea that Alex is having him on, I'm going to give Alex a little bit of credit on this one.
[01:10:33]  And that is, I don't think he knows.
[01:10:34]  Because I don't think he has any idea who this guy is.
[01:10:37]  No.
[01:10:37]  I agree.
[01:10:38]  Earlier in the episode, he's like, I got this economist from Argentina coming on, let me find his bio page.
[01:10:43]  I think that during the episode, when I was saying he was teasing it a bunch and just saying it was an economist, I think that's because he didn't remember his name.
[01:10:51]  I don't think he has any fucking idea who this guy is, and unfortunately, because he hasn't done any kind of research or anything like that, he allows someone who believes in the Andinia plan to come onto his show.
[01:11:05]  Probably speak in code a bit.
[01:11:06]  I think in retrospect, Alex would call that a happy accident, not a mistake on research.
[01:11:12]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:11:14]  Like, hey, isn't that a surprise?
[01:11:15]  We got an economist that agrees!
[01:11:17]  Well, you know what the problem is, too, there?
[01:11:19]  It's kind of demonstrative of how, like, you can have somebody who is like, look, the protocols of the elders of Zion are real.
[01:11:26]  It's a fucking real thing.
[01:11:28]  The Jews want to come in and take over Argentina, make another Israel here.
[01:11:33]  You know, blah, blah, blah.
[01:11:34]  You can have that guy.
[01:11:35]  You can have the editor of Willis Carto's anti-Semitic publications come on the show.
[01:11:41]  You can have them all make arguments that are all compatible.
[01:11:46]  Yeah.
[01:11:47]  And that says something.
[01:11:49]  It really does say something that there aren't red flags that pop up for Alex that like, uh-oh, maybe I'm hanging out with bad people.
[01:11:57]  Yeah.
[01:11:57]  That's not good.
[01:11:58]  No, it's not good.
[01:12:00]  The show's not good.
[01:12:01]  Is there anywhere where people aren't afraid of the Jews coming?
[01:12:05]  That's a really frustrating thought.
[01:12:07]  This household.
[01:12:07]  Yeah, that's a really frustrating thought.
[01:12:10]  It really does seem like you can't go anywhere without somebody eventually being like, the Jews are trying to take over.
[01:12:17]  You're like, fuck!
[01:12:18]  Well, there's a lot of places that historically have been under the sway of a lot of that propaganda.
[01:12:22]  A lot of places...
[01:12:24]  The former Soviet bloc certainly have a lot of that in their history.
[01:12:30]  Well, they started it.
[01:12:32]  Yeah.
[01:12:33]  And, you know, there's some South American influence of Nazis and shit, so that makes sense that it would be there.
[01:12:38]  There's plenty of countries that I'm sure have much less.
[01:12:43]  Historical tendrils of anti-Semitism in them.
[01:12:45]  Like, I don't know.
[01:12:46]  I would hope Australia is a little bit less.
[01:12:48]  No, absolutely not.
[01:12:50]  No?
[01:12:50]  No.
[01:12:51]  Not even close.
[01:12:52]  That's a bummer.
[01:12:52]  Uh-uh.
[01:12:53]  I was kind of hoping that maybe they...
[01:12:54]  They're so far away.
[01:13:00]  Kind of hoping they missed that one.
[01:13:02]  Just took a knee.
[01:13:03]  Oh boy.
[01:13:04]  I think everybody in Australia that listens to our show is like, dude, I wish we took a knee on a lot of shit.
[01:13:11]  Yeah, and I guess that's sort of revealing that I don't know necessarily about Australian anti-Semitic stuff.
[01:13:17]  Who knows?
[01:13:18]  Anyway.
[01:13:19]  Jordan, this has been our episode.
[01:13:20]  This has been April 14th, 2009.
[01:13:23]  A little bit of a shorter episode, but it took a lot out of me hearing Jim Tucker.
[01:13:28]  There were more N-words on this episode, despite it being short, than many previous episodes.
[01:13:34]  In fact, I would say almost all of our episodes that have lasted three to four hours.
[01:13:40]  So I would say we jam-packed a lot into a very short period of time.
[01:13:44]  I would say so.
[01:13:48]  I don't know.
[01:13:50]  Do we have a website?
[01:13:53]  We do.
[01:13:53]  It's infowars.wiki.
[01:13:56]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[01:13:58]  Indeed it is.
[01:13:59]  Do we have a Twitter page?
[01:14:00]  Yep.
[01:14:01]  Knowledge underscore fight.
[01:14:02]  Oh shit.
[01:14:02]  What about Facebook?
[01:14:03]  Yep, and we have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant.
[01:14:05]  Okay, where could you find us?
[01:14:07]  On iTunes.
[01:14:08]  There's options there in terms of leaving a review, subscribe, all that good stuff.
[01:14:13]  Oh yeah, you can also use a bunch of different apps.
[01:14:15]  Do you know what I've been using for my podcast?
[01:14:17]  Let me pull this up.
[01:14:19]  I like it, it's very streamlined.
[01:14:21]  Much like Adrian Salducci, you don't remember the name of this app.
[01:14:23]  It's called Overcast.
[01:14:25]  I've heard of that.
[01:14:26]  Are you sure that's not an Atmosphere album in the early 2000s?
[01:14:29]  Oh, boy.
[01:14:30]  Oh, boy.
[01:14:30]  Here we go.

=== Alex Jones: Technically Speaking (00:39) ===

[01:14:31]  Boo to me.
[01:14:32]  So, I don't know, man.
[01:14:34]  I bet Jim Tucker hasn't physically murdered anybody.
[01:14:37]  He's murdered my innocence?
[01:14:39]  Yeah.
[01:14:40]  That's not true.
[01:14:41]  I don't know, man.
[01:14:42]  I think he probably hasn't killed anybody.
[01:14:43]  I got a vibe on him, and he just seems like a...
[01:14:47]  A guy who sits at a typewriter and had a big old glass of whiskey next to him and just typed out angry screeds about minorities and Jews.
[01:14:56]  Right.
[01:14:56]  But he still didn't kill anybody.
[01:14:58]  But one guy technically probably has killed a guy, and that guy is Alex Jones.
[01:15:03]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[01:15:04]  Thanks for holding.
[01:15:07]  Hello, Alex.
[01:15:08]  I'm a first-time caller.
[01:15:09]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:15:09]  I love your work.