Today, Dan and Jordan check in on what's going on in the present day with the Alex Jones Show. Turns out the show's not going so well, as Alex spends most of his show rambling about how great a new right-wing meme is, before coming up with about seven clunky nicknames for Beto O'Rourke.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes. | ||
| I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| When was the last time you went to a hospital? | ||
| Last time I went to a hospital. | ||
| Long time. | ||
| Unless you count the blood place. | ||
| That is not a hospital. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's phlebotomists. | ||
| There's a nurse. | ||
| There's one nurse. | ||
| I don't even know if it's clean enough to be... | ||
| No comment. | ||
| Yeah, there we go. | ||
| No, it's been a long time, I guess. | ||
| Mostly therapists' offices, generally not in hospitals throughout my life. | ||
| I mean, I guess urgent care centers I've been to. | ||
| Anytime I've gotten sick or needed to go to the doctor, I just go to an urgent care center. | ||
| Have you ever stayed overnight? | ||
| Yeah, like, way back. | ||
| Way back. | ||
| For what? | ||
| Like, I broke my arm once, like, really late at night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I ended up having to stay in the hospital overnight for that. | ||
| And then also, of course, like... | ||
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Wait, wait, wait. | |
| You're just going to throw that out? | ||
| I broke my arm late at night and there's no story behind that? | ||
| It was just 10.30 and you were getting some popcorn and you tripped? | ||
| As far as I recall... | ||
| And I have very vague memories of this because I was really young. | ||
| Me and my brother had a bunk bed and I fell off the top bunk. | ||
| Ah, okay. | ||
| And I broke my arm basically in the middle of the night and I needed to stay in the hospital overnight. | ||
| And of course there's been times I've gone to the mental hospital and stayed overnight. | ||
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Well, yeah, but that's just an occupational hazard. | |
| In terms of physical needs to stay in the hospital overnight, I think that was it. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's it. | ||
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Cool? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| This has been my medical history. | ||
| This is a podcast about, what do we do again? | ||
| My medical history and also Alex Jones. | ||
| I know a lot about him. | ||
| Maybe because I've been to mental hospitals in my life. | ||
| Well, but at the same time, you don't know too much about your medical history, which is about where I am when it comes to knowing about Alex Jones. | ||
| Bingo, Jordan. | ||
| So today we've got an interesting episode to go over, but before we get there, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of new folks who have joined up in supporting the show. | ||
| And we appreciate them oh so much. | ||
| First of all, I'd like to say thank you so much. | ||
| Aaron, you are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Aaron. | ||
| Thank you very much, Aaron. | ||
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| Thank you so much, Nick. | ||
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| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Nick. | ||
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| Big announcement. | ||
| Did we make it? | ||
| We have reached our documentary goal. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| I told you guys! | ||
| 99% of the way there! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Thanks to Raptor Princess and a gentleman, a friend of the show, John in Austin. | ||
| He threw in a bit and kicked us over that line. | ||
| John, come on, man. | ||
| You've already done so fucking much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| But also, Jordan, I think you should not be thanking him because now you're going to have to do a documentary thing with us. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I lived through the first one. | ||
| Yep, and it's fitting. | ||
| It's almost six months later now. | ||
| Around six months later, I think a little bit more than that. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I think we did the last one in April. | ||
| Anyway, I think we'll start. | ||
| We'll start soon, but we still need to firmly, concretely decide which documentary it's going to be. | ||
| It looks like the Obama deception, but I want to make totally... | ||
| You want to give every possible opportunity for the audience to say... | ||
| Not the Obama deception is essentially what you're about to do, right? | ||
| More or less. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| And not because I want to protect Obama or anything like that. | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
| I don't know if I want to do that documentary. | ||
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Alright, alright. | |
| We'll find out. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| If the audience determines that that's what we're doing, then that's what we're doing. | ||
| That's what we're doing. | ||
| Hopefully, I would like to say we'll start putting those out at the beginning of November. | ||
| I'd like to say that, but... | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| Schedule constraints may come into play, so we'll... | ||
| You know, who knows how in-depth some of my research will end up getting to. | ||
| So, like, hopefully November. | ||
| It could happen. | ||
| If not, then mid to late November, for sure. | ||
| And if not... | ||
| Early December. | ||
| The next year. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| But maybe January. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| Who knows what the secret of 2019 is, Dan? | ||
| It could be that Obama finally did deceive us. | ||
| And Megyn Kelly is the key. | ||
| There we go! | ||
| We always knew that was the case. | ||
| So thank you all very much for forcing us into this position. | ||
| But we will be sure to get that for you real soon. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So, Jordan, would I want... | ||
| Or not! | ||
| We can only waffle so much. | ||
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I think we've reached our waffle limit for the day. | |
| Jordan, today, what I wanted to do is, earlier in the week I said that I was working on the 2009 stuff, and by the end of the week the cake would probably be baked. | ||
| Cake is not baked. | ||
| It is not settled. | ||
| I've got to put a pin in 2009 until next week, probably. | ||
| I thought, why not? | ||
| Everybody likes us to check in on present day. | ||
| Alex Jones likes to see what he's up to. | ||
| So why not? | ||
| Why not check in on present-day Alex Jones? | ||
| There's a lot going on in the world. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want to have those British people tell you that it wasn't a good sponge. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is a lot of stuff going on in the world. | ||
| We have chaos all over the place. | ||
| It's literally every single moment there's a new facet of the chaos. | ||
| Or new wrinkles to already existing chaos, be it the deteriorating, evolving story out of Saudi Arabia. | ||
| Oh, man, that's great. | ||
| Climate scientists giving dire warnings. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Things coming out about investigations into Trump's family business history of fraud. | ||
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Mitch McConnell. | |
| Defrauding foreign countries in terms of properties. | ||
| Oh, hey, who hasn't? | ||
| Who has it? | ||
| Sure, all of this stuff is going on. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Stephen King, Steve King in Iowa coming out in favor of a fellow white supremacist, Faith Goldie. | ||
| Nazis aren't that bad. | ||
| We have Gavin McGinnis going out there with his sword trying to start fights in New York. | ||
| According to Fox News, it's our fault! | ||
| So we've got all this stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Mitch McConnell fulfilling the prophecy that I gave six months ago when I said that these fucking tax cuts are a way for them to actually attack Social Security and Medicare. | ||
| And who do you know? | ||
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Guess what? | |
| Mitch McConnell comes out and it says, I have no problem with the deficit! | ||
| It's entitlement programs, man! | ||
| No shit, no shit. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| I don't want to take away from your predictive abilities, but that's one of those, like, come on. | ||
| That's the most obvious prediction anyone has ever made. | ||
| It was sound, but pretty clear. | ||
| It was easy. | ||
| You didn't need a Carrie Cassidy-style dream to help you see that future. | ||
| I did need an Alex Jones-style dream. | ||
| It lasted about six hours. | ||
| There were a lot of fires, and in 95% of the situations, two to three billion people die because of Mitch McConnell. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So there's a lot going on in the world today. | ||
| I was like, I wonder if Alex has got a take on any of it. | ||
| Here is an out-of-context drop from today's show. | ||
| Is he finally going to get to Fat Bears? | ||
| I ain't saying she's a go-digger. | ||
| She ain't messing with no you-know-what. | ||
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She ain't messing with no poor man. | |
| Okay. | ||
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There we go. | |
| Alright. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| Now that Kanye has met with Trump in his Make America Great hat, Alex has adopted Kanye's music as proper music. | ||
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Love Kanye! | |
| Love Kanye! | ||
| Now, I would say that Alex... | ||
| Still playing his second worst album, but fine. | ||
| Fine! | ||
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Fine! | |
| And I would argue that Alex is kind of forgetting that that's not just Kanye, that's also Alex Jones' enemy Jamie Foxx on that song. | ||
| So, it's a little bit of six to one, half dozen to the other kind of situation. | ||
| Also, I like his self-censoring. | ||
| That seemed forced. | ||
| It was... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It would have been nice if he just fucking went for it. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| I'm glad he didn't. | ||
| That's your best bet at getting away with it. | ||
| Saying that you're quoting it. | ||
| You want to say the word. | ||
| Just find a way to say it, man. | ||
| And at this point, I don't feel like there would be too many consequences for him, which is kind of a bummer. | ||
| No, everybody's there. | ||
| So, like I said up top, Jordan, there's a lot going on in the world today. | ||
| So you would think, you would think that the lead story that Alex comes out the gate with would be, you know, something hot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something real important to geopolitics. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| 20 days, and the tidal wave of total censorship has gone into insane overdrive. | ||
| Unbelievable information coming up. | ||
| Facebook, Twitter, you name it, are banning tens of thousands of pages of anyone that promotes the MPC memes, which simply takes a gray face and puts it over the face of conformist, authoritarian, leftist thinkers. | ||
| You know. | ||
| In THX 1138, it's really a remake of the idea of a brave new world, a scientific dictatorship. | ||
| They resemble MPC memes. | ||
| Cool, man. | ||
| I would say half of this show is about the MPC memes. | ||
| You're not on social media, so you're probably not even aware of this. | ||
| That's our big deal? | ||
| Oh, this is the biggest deal in the world, my friend. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| This current world we live in right now. | ||
| NPC memes. | ||
| Memes are the biggest deal. | ||
| Memes. | ||
| Number one story. | ||
| Memes. | ||
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All right. | |
| All right. | ||
| Fine. | ||
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Fine. | |
| You know what? | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Nothing matters anymore. | ||
| This is a new right-wing meme thing where they're putting these gray faces on, like, oftentimes it'll be someone's actual Twitter avatar, and they'll create, like, a false version of them. | ||
| And then also there's other ones that are just NPC1735, ba-da-da-da, and they all are basically doing an impression of people on the left trying to parody the idea that there's groupthink and everybody's saying the exact same things. | ||
| Like they're non-playable characters in a video game who just repeat dialogue when you walk up to them. | ||
| If I know anything about the right wing, this meme is hilarious. | ||
| So funny. | ||
| Because nobody lands a joke quite like the right wing. | ||
| So funny. | ||
| That's why so many amazing comedians are never becoming famous, overlooked, and then they become right-wing comedians. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or, I mean, you got Nick DiPaolo. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| The list goes on. | ||
| It is endless! | ||
| You got the... | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Nick DiPaolo. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But who's number two? | ||
| It's Nick DiPaolo. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What about... | ||
| He's also a guy who was like, I don't think that Nick DiPaolo's not not funny. | ||
| He has his moments. | ||
| He has some good bits. | ||
| But also, he was relevant 25 years ago. | ||
| Oh, Dennis Miller. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alright, we nailed it. | ||
| Rob Schneider! | ||
| Wait, is he on the right? | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Is he a conservative dude? | ||
| He's crazy conservative. | ||
| Lost track of Rob. | ||
| It's wackadoo. | ||
| How could you lose track of Rob Schneider? | ||
| I think he was out making copies. | ||
| I lost track of him. | ||
| Still relevant to today's office culture. | ||
| Still relevant to today's office culture. | ||
| Making copies. | ||
| Oh, the Stingmeister! | ||
| Et cetera. | ||
| So, look, this NPC meme thing, I just sort of ignored it when it was sort of popping around and people were tweeting about it. | ||
| I was like, well, right, this is just some more right-wing bullshit. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Because it's basically, if you really look at the core of it, it's just like a visual way of them saying sheeple. | ||
| They've just figured out a new way to articulate this idea that they've had all along, and they're acting like it's new. | ||
| It's brand new. | ||
| They put a gray spot on faces. | ||
| And then the other side of it, too, that should be horribly apparent to anybody who travels in or listens to any of the diverse voices on the left, what you know is that basically you just have a bunch of people in places like Reddit, 4chan, these sorts of places, where they just are their own echo chambers, where they've created this image in their head of what social justice warriors are. | ||
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Damn. | |
| So they've created that image, and then they're... | ||
| Pretending that that's what everybody sounds like, and now they're creating a parody of this false version of the other side that they've created in their head. | ||
| Are you saying that rather than engage with the reality, they've created a thing, a facsimile of a human out of some sort of... | ||
| Like a hay? | ||
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A hay dude? | |
| Yeah, like a hay... | ||
| Like a hay dude. | ||
| Yeah, like a hay dude. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yippee-ki-yi-yi. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What was the name of that? | ||
| Like a Hey Arnold. | ||
| Like a Hey Dude on Nickelodeon. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And he salutes shorts, I guess. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Donkey Lips. | ||
| So, look, I don't have a lot of feelings about this here NPC meme. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I don't care about it. | ||
| I understand one of the reasons that Twitter is cracking down and getting rid of some of these accounts is that they are targeted harassment to a certain extent. | ||
| If you put this gray thing over someone's face and you're pretending that you're them, sure, I think on one level that constitutes parody, but I also could see a way that it could be targeted harassment. | ||
| So I see both sides of this. | ||
| I think this is up to Twitter to make the decision and live with it. | ||
| Choose whatever stake you want to make in it. | ||
| We'll see how the chips fall. | ||
| I don't advocate them banning all of them, but I also don't think it's wrong of them to. | ||
| Don't care at all. | ||
| That's my position firmly on this. | ||
| I'm going to go with pass. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Dan, I don't know if you know this, but there might be. | |
| What's going on right now? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's that, we keep coming, where we go back to a bunch, is that, like, that idea of, in life, you kind of got to do triage a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, maybe a little bit. | ||
| Sometimes you may just have to punt, and I'm punting on this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, at the end of that... | ||
| Now, if the Saudi prince had tweeted out any NPC means, then we're in a whole different scenario. | ||
| That's a different conversation. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So, at the end there, Alex is like, this is like how there were gray faces in THX 1138. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which was, I believe, the studio that produced the sound for Lucasfilms? | ||
| No, no, that's interesting. | ||
| It was actually one of the roots of that, though. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| It's the guy who did the sound for a lot of Lucasfilms and stuff. | ||
| He collaborated with George Lucas on THX 1138, which is basically... | ||
| A futuristic robot that came back in time to kill John Connor? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Alex is talking, he always talks about it in the same breath as like Brave New World in 1984. | ||
| He seems to act like it's like the globalist model for the future and it's basically prophecy. | ||
| But he refuses to bring up is that it was basically just a student film made by George Lucas. | ||
| when he was at USC. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It was, the original version was his student film and then he got funding for it and made it. | ||
| It was his first directorial film. | ||
| Yeah, it was, the working title was American THX Graffiti, Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| One review that I read was that THX 1138 is basically 1984 without the philosophy if you borrowed Soma from Brave New World. | ||
| That's sort of the booyah bays that they're making. | ||
| That's the stew. | ||
| This makes sense because Lucas wasn't good at making things yet. | ||
| He was a young artist. | ||
| Also, the end of the movie is clearly stolen from Plato's. | ||
| Allegory of the Cave, Les from 1984, Brave New World. | ||
| At the end of the film, the main character, the titular THX, is outrunning some police drones. | ||
| And then they let him get away because they're over budget. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| They let him escape, which leads me to believe it's not that big of a priority for him to be stopped from escaping. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then he ends up getting to the above ground and realizes there's birds up there and he's been lied to the whole time, much like the allegory of the cave. | ||
| This is all just very... | ||
| It's very derivative work, much like a lot of George Lucas' work. | ||
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Hey now, hold on. | |
| Kurosawa would disagree. | ||
| While we're talking about this movie, really quick, just because Alex brought it up and I think it was fun and I looked into it a little bit. | ||
| If you take out some of the more purely aesthetic, stylistic touches, which are the things that Alex really gets caught up on, like the idea that everyone's bald, everyone shaves their head. | ||
| That sort of stuff. | ||
| If you really get rid of some of those things, the movie really contains two central ideas about state control. | ||
| One is forced drugging of people and instilling the mentality that the economy and money are more important than people's humanity. | ||
| Since Donald Trump, Alex's favorite politician has been in office. | ||
| There have been many reports of ICE agents and independent contractors forcibly medicating immigrant children that have been separated from their families in order to make them more pliable and manageable. | ||
| No idea what you're talking about. | ||
| Can't trust the media. | ||
| In the last week, responding to the grisly murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a non-citizen resident of the United States and journalist for the Washington Post that appears to have been carried out by Saudi Arabia, Alex's favorite politician, Donald Trump, said, quote, they're spending $110 billion on military equipment and on things that create jobs for this country. | ||
| I don't like the concept of stopping an investment of $110 billion into the United States because you know they're going to go, they're going to take that money and spend it in Russia or China or someplace else. | ||
| That is almost the literal definition of putting money in the supposed economy over someone's humanity. | ||
| No idea what you're talking about. | ||
| Now just to be petty, it should be pointed out that Trump's excuse about jobs and the economy is a lie. | ||
| From Vox, quote, But private sector defense workers make up less than 0.5% of the total U.S. labor force. | ||
| And that includes every person whose job depends directly on the sale or production of airplanes, tanks, bombs, and services for the entire U.S. military. | ||
| It's unlikely that many of them, if any, depend directly on weapon sales to Saudi Arabia. | ||
| And it's also unlikely that these jobs would vanish if Saudi money disappeared. | ||
| So you're saying that the United States government is lying in defense of an... | ||
| Indefensible idea already. | ||
| At least one guy is. | ||
| I cannot imagine any historical parallel wherein the entire U.S. government begins lying in order to support a bad decision in the first place. | ||
| One that I suppose puts us into... | ||
| I would call it eternal war. | ||
| That would never happen. | ||
| Well, it's interesting, too, because this $110 billion number is not reflective of contracts or actual deals. | ||
| If you really look into it, it involves a convoluted mishmash of letters of intent, letters of interest, but definitely nothing really binding. | ||
| At least the true number of how much is coming in from these deals, it's unclear, but it is definitely lower than $110 billion. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So even the lie in support of the bad argument that is indefensible is built around another lie. | ||
| At least embellishment. | ||
| Probably outright lie. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is also probably a coincidence, but from The Hill. | ||
| Quote, Also, at a campaign rally in 2015, | ||
| he told the crowd, quote, In January 2018, he said on Fox News, quote, I would want to protect Saudi Arabia, but Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically. | ||
| So it is multiple lies to support an indefensible argument that is actually covering up a massive corruption scandal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One that would, I don't know, invalidate him from being president in the first place under some sort of constitutional... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah, it seems that way. | ||
| And it's really cool to see things like Pat Robertson come out on the 700 Club, a supposed Christian dude, telling his audience that, hey, you know what? | ||
| Why would we jeopardize this weapons deal? | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's great that we now live in a world where I'm sure Jim Baker is saying similar shit, that we've got these dickhole, these pastors out there who are actively rallying people around the idea of selling billions of dollars of weapons because that somehow helps their regressive domestic agenda. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Christianity is great, guys. | ||
| It's going well. | ||
| They're doing good. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They haven't lost their way. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
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In fact, I think they would say that they've kicked it up a notch. | |
| I admit that the two examples that I used are really old, crazy dudes. | ||
| But they are big figureheads within the evangelical community. | ||
| With massive fucking audience. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, anyway, what I just went over there, I think, is a nice bridge from Alex. | ||
| He's obsessed with that MPC meme. | ||
| Oh, I forgot that we were just going to be talking about a meme. | ||
| We're not. | ||
| We're not going to talk too much about it. | ||
| But he's obsessed with that meme. | ||
| It takes up most of the show. | ||
| He bridges that with THX 1138, which, as we described, he's missing most of the thematic points of, which, if he did understand the points of, would really point the finger at the actions of Donald Trump, one of which is this inhumane response, inhuman response, to the apparent... | ||
| Looking like assassination by the state of Saudi Arabia of a journalist who is critical of the regime. | ||
| Which ironically supports a very different film. | ||
| I would say in The Phantom Menace, he would be on the side of the guys who are like, this trade blockade is a great idea. | ||
| Yeah, I think he would be on the wrong side of that. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, anyway, that leads us to... | ||
| Alex does not spend a lot of time talking about the Saudi Arabia situation. | ||
| It's indefensible, so why defensive? | ||
| Well, hold on. | ||
| Alex has an interesting take on it. | ||
| That can't be true. | ||
| As we said last Friday and Sunday, evidence because of there being no motive, and because the media, the corporate media, jumped on it, looks like it could be a rogue group false flag to derail the peace plans that Trump has, and as he prepares to put the clamps on... | ||
| Iran, that this is deep state operatives like John Kerry and Obama, who are running their own rogue shadow State Department, admittedly, to try to derail what's happening using networks under the crown prince, but not under his control. | ||
| Just like Trump isn't in control of most of the FBI, or most of the Justice Department, or most of the CIA. | ||
| There are loyal people there, but there are large swaths that do whatever they want, or under the command of... | ||
| Hillary, Obama, and other slimebags. | ||
| They brag about this in the news show. | ||
| After this clip, Alex had to take half an hour off of his show because he threw out his back stretching that far. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| Wow, that's maybe the most convoluted, terrible plan I have ever heard. | ||
| If true. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| My respect for Obama, Hillary, and others goes way down. | ||
| And others is always my favorite. | ||
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Way down. | |
| That's my new favorite Alex meme. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And others. | ||
| Way down. | ||
| Could be anybody who's also included in there. | ||
| What about that girl who was in the cult where people got branded? | ||
| She's probably in there. | ||
| The Nixxiom or whatever? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or Nicole Kidman. | ||
| She was in the others. | ||
| I don't know, dude. | ||
| I hear this and I'm like, this is weak stuff, man. | ||
| Like, you apply Occam's razor to things and you're like, you're saying there's no motive. | ||
| There's a motive. | ||
| There's a clear motive. | ||
| I think that might be the main piece of evidence. | ||
| Like, the motive is overwhelming. | ||
| Oh, also opportunity. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And just because Alex doesn't recognize that there's a motive... | ||
| History of disappearing people and dismembering them? | ||
| Like I'm saying, just because Alex doesn't recognize that there's a motive or he's not willing to accept it or whatever, doesn't mean that there isn't. | ||
| There's a very concrete, real-world, clear-cut... | ||
| That Khashoggi would have been a target of the Saudi Arabian state. | ||
| Especially in the lead up to their 2030 enticement of foreign business, the infrastructure planning that they're doing, this big push. | ||
| It makes total sense. | ||
| There is a motive. | ||
| I remember when they did the very... | ||
| He's been in self-exile for years. | ||
| At the very beginning of this conservative reporting. | ||
| At the very beginning of this conservative reporting, where they're like... | ||
| A Washington Post journalist went into the Saudi consulate. | ||
| A Washington Post journalist with a history of criticizing the Saudi government disappeared inside the Saudi consulate. | ||
| I was like, yeah, Beretta did that shit. | ||
| Like, it's very... | ||
| OJ is innocent. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Motive was not hard to come by. | ||
| In another lifetime. | ||
| By that I mean like four years ago. | ||
| Alex would have been screaming bloody murder about this murder of a journalist. | ||
| Yeah, they're attacking all of us. | ||
| He spent a very long time blaming Saudi Arabia for 9-11. | ||
| Well, they did it. | ||
| He wasn't wrong. | ||
| Hey, you know why? | ||
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Because they had a fucking motive! | |
| He wasn't totally wrong on that front to some extent. | ||
| But, like, I don't understand. | ||
| Like, this is such a big pivot for him. | ||
| This is a crazy... | ||
| Saudi Arabia's great. | ||
| So anyway, here's the next clip that has to do with that. | ||
| We're about to have regime change in Iran. | ||
| It's super unpopular. | ||
| It's very authoritative and authoritarian, and people don't like it. | ||
| Half the population is 28 or younger, and it would be a really good thing to have peaceful regime change over there. | ||
| And these sanctions, these real sanctions, are getting ready to do it. | ||
| I thought people didn't like it. | ||
| And so, you better believe one guy dies, they're acting like 10 million died, and I'm not saying it's a good thing, whatever really happened to him, but the fact that it's all recorded, it's all surveilled, looks like a setup on both ends. | ||
| I mean, it would be recorded probably because it's in the consulate, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think that a lot of those sorts of places have bugs. | ||
| I can't imagine any sort of... | ||
| By the people who run the buildings. | ||
| Oh, international spycraft still exists in some form? | ||
| You betcha. | ||
| That does not seem like a setup. | ||
| That seems like security measures. | ||
| Then, beyond that, Alex, you want regime change? | ||
| Who are you, man? | ||
| You agree with John Bolton. | ||
| Regime change. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| We gotta do regime change, Dan! | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| Usually I'm against regime change, but sometimes you gotta regime change. | ||
| I'm always against it. | ||
| I'm principally against the idea of us meddling in other countries' governments. | ||
| As we see in 2009, he's pro-Iran. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| He's straight-up pro-Iran, and he hates the idea that these neocons are demonizing the Iranian government. | ||
| So, like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know that times change, but it seems very difficult for me to believe that he's changed so much that he's now for some sort of an intervention in order to prompt regime change. | ||
| That seems so far outside of Alex Jones' vocabulary. | ||
| It seems so far outside of his principles that, I mean, this is just, you're a gun for hire. | ||
| You don't even stand for anything. | ||
| There are no principles. | ||
| There is nothing. | ||
| Post. | ||
| Post, I don't know, what, 2015? | ||
| Whenever... | ||
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Maybe even a little before that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It stopped being about any kind of policy, coherent strategy, and it just became anything that the liberals don't want, I want. | ||
| Well, now, it's interesting that you say that, because in this next clip, Alex explains where he's getting his information about the situation in Saudi Arabia from. | ||
| And it might surprise you that it's not research, it's his gut. | ||
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Great. | |
| Again, we're the first to say it. | ||
| Now you hear from the president and the Saudi government. | ||
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Trustworthy people! | |
| When I see CNN, MSNBC, day one saying Saudi Arabia did it and this ends our peace deal with them and everything's over and Trump's an idiot and it's his fault. | ||
| I'm like, these are known lying scumbags that I don't believe a damn word they say. | ||
| Saudi Arabia doesn't have the motive in this. | ||
| So what's really going on? | ||
| That's called deduction, my dear Watson. | ||
| No, that's bad deduction. | ||
| I mean, he's just saying, essentially, like, oh, I saw CNN reporting it's this, therefore I believe not this. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| That's real bad. | ||
| Yeah, no, once you eliminate all other possibilities... | ||
| Don't stop trying to defend those possibilities, because the reality is a bummer. | ||
| You can't believe that shit. | ||
| But he's also operating from false pretenses. | ||
| Like, the premises of his argument seem to be that CNN always lies, which isn't true. | ||
| And second, he doesn't believe that Saudi Arabia has a motive. | ||
| Which, I mean, I find believing it's possible that he doesn't believe that. | ||
| But if you make the premise, Saudi Arabia doesn't have a motive, that is also a false premise. | ||
| So those two, like... | ||
| Your argument is bogus to begin with. | ||
| Like, from the jump, you're screwed. | ||
| Whatever conclusion you come to is meaningless. | ||
| This is not how deductive reasoning works in a productive way. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| You're just playing dumb distraction games when you're just like, here's two false things that lead to whatever I want you to believe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Bad. | |
| Yeah! | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| This wouldn't pass a 101 logic class. | ||
| Like, Alex's... | ||
| The way he's thinking... | ||
| We'd get him booted out of freshman at a junior college, like junior college logic classes. | ||
| This is embarrassing. | ||
| If there's one thing I know about the scientific method, it's start with the result that you want and then ignore anything else that doesn't support that. | ||
| Craft bullshit that supports it in a flimsy way. | ||
| Scientific method. | ||
| Women are made of abortions. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I've heard that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the thing is, though, this show isn't about truth. | ||
| It's not about the news. | ||
| You know what it's about. | ||
| We all know what it's about. | ||
| Right-wing propaganda? | ||
| I've just launched our Christmas specials we had planned. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Our Black Friday specials and our Cyber Monday specials. | ||
| People love to buy on the sales days. | ||
| That's just the way people are, and that's why we have our sales on those days. | ||
| I'm putting them all together now, Christmas, Black Friday, all of it, the next two months of sales at Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| This episode is October 17th, 2018. | ||
| This is our Black Friday sale! | ||
| Right! | ||
| Christmas! | ||
| It's our Black Friday sale! | ||
| Christmas sale, two months in advance! | ||
| I'm putting it all together. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| People love to buy on sales days, so what if every day was a sales day, Dan? | ||
| You know. | ||
| I just, 365 times your revenue. | ||
| You know when your business is doing great, you generally are like, everything is on sale. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Forever. | ||
| It's like a mattress store. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You know you are doing good. | ||
| 50% off going out of business sale for the next three and a half years. | ||
| You know, like a metro store. | ||
| I love that he's such a devout optimist that he's presenting this. | ||
| It's like, Christmas sale starts two months early. | ||
| It's like, because everything is so awesome. | ||
| No, no, no, buddy. | ||
| That doesn't. | ||
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No. | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I need cash. | ||
| So far, we have heard not one word that makes sense. | ||
| No. | ||
| And it's gonna get worse. | ||
| I mean, this makes very little sense. | ||
| To the point where we end up ending this episode is legitimately, I was sitting here like, why am I doing this? | ||
| This is such a waste of, like, I'm not an idiot. | ||
| This is a waste of my time. | ||
| This show is bad. | ||
| Alex's show is very bad. | ||
| Not in a scolding, you're bad, kind of way. | ||
| It's like, this is a bad show. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| He's rambling about this NPC meme shit for a very, very long time. | ||
| He's barely touching on real news that matters to the world. | ||
| And when he is, he's just dismissing it with terrible arguments and just lying about the structure of his arguments. | ||
| And then the other stuff that he gets into is so profoundly dumb. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But, before we get there... | ||
| We have to learn about how the globalists, right? | ||
| Globalists. | ||
| They're doing it. | ||
| They don't want you to use memes. | ||
| But there is something they do want you to use. | ||
| And it might surprise you. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We're in the middle of the meme revolution. | ||
| The European Union's passed a law to make everyone pre-approve memes, or you can be sent to prison or fined. | ||
| Which is unconstitutional! | ||
| Mexico has a law going through their Congress to ban memes. | ||
| That's right, because It's a new form of communication. | ||
| The globalists want us to use emojis and things that restrict and reduce language. | ||
| Did you just find them? | ||
| That's what the Socialist Party, Fabian Socialists in England, always called for. | ||
| The Fabian Socialists in England always called for people to use emojis. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| Sometimes I just think Alex gets lost in a sentence. | ||
| It's like, there has to be an awareness on his part that he's late to the meme party. | ||
| You would hope. | ||
| And he's been resistant to fully embracing the stupid right-wing meme dance that goes on. | ||
| And so now he's coming in as if he's like, oh, I've known about this all along. | ||
| This is part of the Fabian Socialists' plan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Alright, buddy. | ||
| Yep! | ||
| Alright, keep talking. | ||
| I don't understand, Dan. | ||
| So, I think what Alex is operating off of is that Paul Joseph Watson made a video about this NPC meme thing. | ||
| And maybe it got more views than something Alex put out, so he realized, like, this is something I gotta talk about. | ||
| And I'm basing that on the fact that in the middle of this episode, he plays Paul Joseph Watson's entire report. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And I am sorry about this, but I do need to play you some Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| We generally resist listening to him because his style is so obnoxious and just snarky. | ||
| It's just full of fast edits and insulting voices that he does in order to characterize. | ||
| Yeah, he's a giant piece of shit. | ||
| Even if you like him, you should at least be like, this guy's a piece of shit. | ||
| So just to get people on board a little bit, I cut this clip as sort of an indication of his style. | ||
| Just so you can get a little bit of a flavor for what you'll be sitting through if you watch one of his videos. | ||
| Thanks, Dan. | ||
| Here's what happens to anyone who suggests that maybe Trump isn't the new Hitler. | ||
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Rape is bad. | |
| Orange man is bad. | ||
| I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what I'm outraged over today. | ||
| I follow such a diverse range of people and for me this is what Twitter is all about. | ||
| Get out of your echo chambers and start listening to unique and individual voices. | ||
| I agree with whatever Twitter terms that you say I should agree with. | ||
| Mom? | ||
| I mean that's pretty indicative of his thing. | ||
| He does these voices that are meant to characterize the people he's lampooning. | ||
| He'll generally use tweets from people that he doesn't like and then does an insulting voice similar to that, although not as robotic usually, but that's trying to get the idea of, like, all these people are saying the same things. | ||
| They're all automatons. | ||
| They're the NPCs. | ||
| No, I got it. | ||
| What have you? | ||
| That's really the whole report. | ||
| You kind of get it from there. | ||
| Does he not know that that's lame? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No, this is hilarious. | ||
| This is funny as hell, man. | ||
| No, I mean, that's lame. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty lame. | ||
| That is... | ||
| That's... | ||
| A bummer how lame that is. | ||
| Aren't you supposed to be on the vanguard of bullshit conservative right nonsense? | ||
| Yeah, you would think that he'd be better than this. | ||
| It's a weird thing to say, but you would think that as the rock star of the... | ||
| They're the new punk rock, as he likes to say. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You would think, yeah, he'd be a little bit more... | ||
| More interesting than just, like, using other people's tweets as proof that everyone that he's against believes the same thing. | ||
| Like, he brings up, like, the Krasenstein brothers, or whatever, and is like, this is what all the left believes. | ||
| I don't know anybody who agrees with them. | ||
| I don't know anybody who follows them. | ||
| Don't you remember when all rock critics said that Huey Lewis and the News were the next big thing in punk rock? | ||
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Sports! | |
| Next big thing in punk rock! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was Bad Brains and then Huey Lewis in the news. | ||
| Everybody knows that's the trajectory. | ||
| Yeah, it's the same sort of fallacy. | ||
| He's just trying to take a little snip. | ||
| It's the same way that Alex is like, Rob Reiner speaks for the left. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| You want to make that argument, that's not spaghetti that's going to stick to the wall. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| That's undercooked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in his next clip, Paul Joseph Watson admits what he really enjoys about memes. | ||
| And it's kind of what you'd expect. | ||
| There's also this weird disconnect where they dismiss NPC as a pathetic playground insult not worthy of attention. | ||
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Yet then write laborious article after article after article being triggered by it. | |
| The same thing they did with Soy Boys. | ||
| What happens to kids who react to playground insults? | ||
| They get the same insult thrown at them again and again because it obviously gets under their skin. | ||
| So, I like bullying people. | ||
| And I engage in playground insults. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Congratulations, Paul. | ||
| That's your business model. | ||
| Enjoy yourself. | ||
| This is why we don't talk about you. | ||
| And you can even tell from listening to that the quick cuts. | ||
| You can tell, like, how heavily edited his stuff is. | ||
| I can't imagine being so bad at your job that you can't speak coherently for, I don't know, four seconds. | ||
| Like, we do edit this show in terms of, like, sometimes we have to go to the bathroom. | ||
| Or sometimes something slips out of our mouth that's like an inside joke or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, we cut a couple things out every now and again, but generally we're sitting here talking straight through for two and a half hours. | ||
| You know, we do not, it's embarrassing to look at Paul Joseph Watson and see like, why? | ||
| Why'd you cut there? | ||
| That was almost the middle of a word. | ||
| Did you need to do another take? | ||
| The least exciting and technically proficient shot in any movie is some sort of long one take. | ||
| Everybody hates those. | ||
| Rope! | ||
| Remember in Birdman, whenever there was that interminable long take where they're walking and it's filled with drama with the drums playing behind it, which only increases the tension, and then the tension exploded? | ||
| Boring! | ||
| Give me 18 million cuts between every single fucking step. | ||
| No one fucking remembers Rope for a reason. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Now, Paul Joseph Watson's argument... | ||
| In my review of Rope, use it to hang yourself, movie. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Hot take. | ||
| So, Paul Joseph Watson is a bully. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I don't really give a shit. | ||
| Best thing to do with bullies is ignore them. | ||
| But this next clip, I couldn't ignore. | ||
| And it's because it's sort of the central thesis of his video. | ||
| And it speaks to what Alex is trying to pitch to. | ||
| And Alex is doing a much worse job of articulating himself than Paul because he's clearly using Paul as a source material for his own reporting. | ||
| And in this clip, Paul Joseph Watson, he's making the argument of why people on the left are opposed to these NPC memes. | ||
| And one of the arguments that I've seen posted in articles and stuff like that is that it's dehumanizing in a way. | ||
| Because what you do is you put a blank face over someone else's face. | ||
| And it's like to say, all of you are the same. | ||
| I think, I mean, I understand where people are coming from. | ||
| I don't think that sticks. | ||
| Say the words blank face to me. | ||
| I think schoolboy Q. Sure. | ||
| Tell you that right now. | ||
| So, I don't think that that is necessarily a real reason to, like, be against these memes. | ||
| I think that the targeted harassment aspect of it is much more valid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Paul Joseph Watson's version of it is, they hate this because they know that the left can't meme, but the right, baby, we can meme. | ||
| And in doing so, in making this argument, he cites something he should not have cited. | ||
| And of course, we all know why the left wants to ban memes. | ||
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Because the left can't meme. | |
| That's not just a cliche. | ||
| They admit to it. | ||
| A study undertaken by researchers at University College London found that the most effective memes largely originated in two places, the Donald subreddit and 4chan. | ||
| A vice write-up of the study acknowledges that the most, quote, effectively spread memes originated on the Donald and Paul. | ||
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That's why they want to ban the NPC meme. | |
| Here's the issue with this. | ||
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| No, we can't pass on this because it's very demonstrative of something super important. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson is misusing this study from the University College of London because of course he is. | ||
| He didn't click the link in the BBC article that he's summarizing or in the vice write-up that he is saying characterizes the study. | ||
| So he really has no idea what he even says past the characterization that Paul and the Donald are effective meme distribution hubs. | ||
| That's the only message that he's gotten out of this because he didn't fucking read the study. | ||
| If he had read it, he would have found some information that doesn't really help his arguments very much at all. | ||
| First, from the study, quote, our work focuses on four web communities, Twitter, Reddit, Gab, and 4chan's politically incorrect board. | ||
| They even later say, quote, note that we exclude mainstream communities like the rest of Reddit. | ||
| Other than the Donald subreddit. | ||
| And Twitter, as our main goal is to obtain clusters of memes from the fringe web communities. | ||
| They only looked at four places in the study, so when the conclusion they come away with is that the Donald board on Reddit and Poll are effective meme platforms, really the conclusion more accurately stated is Gab is a ghost town, and Twitter mostly exists as a second-hand store or a thrift shop of memes. | ||
| That's really the conclusion that you should take away from this, since there's only four things being studied. | ||
| Now, second, if Paul Joseph Watson had read this study, he would have found that one of the main takeaways from the study was... | ||
| Quote, communities within 4chan, Reddit, and Gab use memes to share hateful and racist content. | ||
| For instance, among the most popular clusters of memes, we find variants of the anti-Semitic happy merchant meme. | ||
| They say in the study that memes of these communities are used to express racist sentiment. | ||
| Quote, evident from the popularity of the anti-Semitic happy merchant meme, which depicts a greedy and manipulative stereotypical caricature of a Jew. | ||
| By contrast, mainstream communities like the rest of Reddit and Twitter primarily share harmless neutral memes, which are rarely used in hateful contexts. | ||
| One of the big takeaways, again, from the study was, quote, There are several takeaways from our measurements of influence. | ||
| We show that poll is, generally speaking, the most influential disseminator of memes in terms of raw influence. | ||
| In particular, it's more influential in spreading racist memes than non-racist ones. | ||
| Relatedly, poll has generally more influence in terms of spreading political memes than other communities. | ||
| What the study ultimately found is that Poll is the most influential meme source in the realm of their study, but that they were woefully inefficient, which is to say that they post tons of memes there, and a lot of them don't catch on, but the ones that do are really popular. | ||
| In contrast, the Donald subreddit has a way higher than expected efficiency rate, which is honestly what you should expect. | ||
| That subreddit is largely just, it's little more than a means of weaponizing information and misinformation in a coordinated way. | ||
| So that's exactly what would make sense to find. | ||
| A low number of unique memes, but each one pushed in a unique, unified, focused way. | ||
| If Paul Joseph Watson wants to use this study to assert the things that he's asserting, namely that it demonstrates why liberals are afraid of memes because his side is better at them, he needs to accept that this entire study, he has to accept the entire study, not just the pieces that feel good to him. | ||
| I know that it would be inconvenient in the middle of this snarky rant to have to just stop and point out that a large part of the study that he's citing involves the dissemination of racist memes and how the very places he's claiming as being on his side are full to the gills. | ||
| So I empathize with him a little bit. | ||
| Because that would be very difficult to put in with your fake voices and his weird tweets that he likes to quote. | ||
| Why would you bother pointing that out? | ||
| The racist part is a feature, not a bug. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everybody just assumes that they're racist memes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, I've explained to you what that study really says and why it's not really any evidence that liberals are afraid of memes. | ||
| Again, just studied four fringe places. | ||
| You can just throw away Gab, by the way. | ||
| That's a zero. | ||
| And that study very clearly demonstrates ain't nobody on Gab, but the people there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson is coming in, you know, with this like, hey, I read an article on Vice that said this one sentence about this study, so I'm going to act like I know everything about it. | ||
| Just a minute later in his special report, Paul Joseph Watson owns himself. | ||
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Serious cultural engagement requires focus. | |
| It nevertheless has a rejuvenating effect, whereas the passive consumption of mass culture leaves us more enervated than before. | ||
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And the same goes for political opinions. | |
| It takes a modicum of research and a small step beyond superficial thinking to understand that no, not everyone who doesn't have hashtag FBPE or a blue wave in their profile is an alt-right neo-Nazi. | ||
| So, I mean, So, his argument is that the right is so great at memes that the left is afraid of them. | ||
| Furthermore, his argument is those that, let's just say, consume memes. | ||
| Which are easily digestible, passive pieces of culture. | ||
| Are less, alright. | ||
| That's not invigorating and you don't get much out of it. | ||
| Good work. | ||
| With political opinions, just a modicum of research will help you get where you need to go, says me, the guy who read one sentence in a Vice article and then decided to conclude things that you shouldn't conclude about it. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson, do your fucking research. | ||
| Read the study, you dickweed. | ||
| I know it's hard, but if you're going to... | ||
| It's not! | ||
| Do a modicum of research! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's literally not hard! | ||
| And he's not wrong. | ||
| It is invigorating. | ||
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| I feel invigorated by, like, oh, I did read that study, and it says slightly different things than what Paul Joseph Watson's trying to present. | ||
| I just hate it. | ||
| I hate it that in the same breath he's sassing about, like, I do all this stuff. | ||
| Like, the reason that I have such robust, smart political beliefs is that I do research into this stuff in the same sentence when he's manifesting not doing research. | ||
| And then he ends with a false characterization of people on the left being like, if you don't have a blue wave on your Twitter thing, you're a Nazi. | ||
| Like, that's playground stuff. | ||
| I'm not triggered by this. | ||
| I just think it's pathetic. | ||
| You know, I mean, I think generally speaking it's best not to talk about him because it's the game that he wants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I just... | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's fun when dumb people act dumb. | ||
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I think that a well-placed... | |
| Bit of silence, or pause, proves far more effective, or perhaps, at the very least, more interesting than constant jump cuts so there is literally no space between the end of any sentence fragment and the next sentence. | ||
| It is freakish and disconcerting. | ||
| I think I know why he does it. | ||
| Because if you pause to think for a single second, you'd be like... | ||
| Oh, that's fucking stupid. | ||
| That's a huge part of it. | ||
| And then also, it's much harder to edit his stuff into, like, those, like, Vic Berger would have a much harder time using Paul Joseph Watson's footage. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. | ||
| Because you'd have to, like, really make precise chops in order to get the clips that you would want of, like, here's what he's saying, because he's talking a mile a minute. | ||
| And there are no breaks in the dialogue. | ||
| Can we just point out he sucks? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like, his content is awful, but at his job, that's bad. | ||
| He's terrible. | ||
| That's really bad. | ||
| He's terrible at his job if his job is journalist. | ||
| He's not bad at his job if he is distraction rodeo clown propagandist. | ||
| He's pretty good at that. | ||
| Yeah, but even within that sphere, I feel like he's doing a terrible job. | ||
| He's doing a terrible job if you consider, like if you look into what he's saying, yes. | ||
| But the gambit, the gamble is always, no one's going to really look into this. | ||
| No, from an artistic standpoint, he's terrible, but Home Improvement was a very popular show. | ||
| So, there you go. | ||
| I mean, he even makes a snarky comment about that, about how like... | ||
| See, there you go. | ||
| Not about Home Improvement, but I think it's How I Met Your Mother or something like that. | ||
| Even that's fucking... | ||
| That was better than Home Improvement! | ||
| Improvement! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex in this next clip, he's back and he's related THX1138 to the NPC meme. | ||
| But then he also relates an Apple commercial from 34 years ago to the NPC commercial. | ||
| Oh, the one where the lady hammer throws into the big television screen? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Oh, I remember. | ||
| I wasn't watching Alex's show. | ||
| It was a big deal. | ||
| It was just listening. | ||
| But it was from the Olympics, and this is Alex screaming in the middle of it. | ||
| Our system's all powerful, nothing can crack it. | ||
| You'll have gray MPC faces. | ||
| You are MPC! | ||
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You are MPC! | |
| And we say no! | ||
| So now they even ban us from showing the archetypal image of what they are! | ||
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But Infowars will shatter them! | |
| Yes! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You need to calm down. | ||
| That actually got Howard Dean out of the running for the Democratic nomination. | ||
| He needs to calm down about this meme. | ||
| He needs to calm down about that commercial. | ||
| It's a little unnerving, like how much potential he thinks there is in this meme. | ||
| Because you know what's fun about this? | ||
| This is like when we go back to 2009 and we see some petty piece of news about a chicken farmer whose house blew up. | ||
| It's like a big piece of Alex's narrative for a day and then we look into it and we find out, oh, he was a crazy dude who blew up his own house. | ||
| And then a week later, Alex isn't talking about it. | ||
| Never speaks of it again. | ||
| If you just listen to that day, you're like, oh, this is going to be the next month. | ||
| He's going to be talking about this forever. | ||
| That's what this is, but just in present day. | ||
| I'm listening to this and I'm like... | ||
| I don't even know why anyone should care. | ||
| This is cotton candy. | ||
| It doesn't fill you up. | ||
| It's not good for you. | ||
| It's just there. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| It's just there. | ||
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I mean, here's the better move for the right wing. | |
| Find a way to make that Shaq commercial where he's right next to the cat, like, shaking. | ||
| You know, they're both shaking like that. | ||
| You seen that one? | ||
| Put, like, a gray face on that. | ||
| Call it a day. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| Or the Jordan and Bird commercials. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| Put a gray face on that. | ||
| Everybody loved that. | ||
| Can the NPC play? | ||
| No, he cannot. | ||
| No, he cannot. | ||
| It even fits in thematically. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Man, these guys are terrible at memes. | ||
| We just came up with a better one. | ||
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| So, in this next clip, Alex wants to talk to you a little bit about his best friend, Donald Trump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He wants to tell you that he is basically Jesus. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He sacrificed so much for you, and you don't even care. | ||
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Really? | |
| Prosperity is pouring back in. | ||
| To him. | ||
| Because the president has gotten 20% control of the federal government. | ||
| Personally pouring back into him. | ||
| His real sterling achievement is that he can take the attacks, turn them back on the enemy, withstand all the peer pressure, the $2 billion he's lost of his fortune, from all the lawsuits and attacks and golf course deals he lost and tournaments he lost and everything else. | ||
| Oh, so maybe he's a bad businessman. | ||
| And this family has gone through the fire for us. | ||
| He said, I love this country. | ||
| I don't need to be president. | ||
| I don't want to be president, but I got to do it. | ||
| Got to. | ||
| I just can't watch them flush the country, and everybody screw us over. | ||
| What a good man. | ||
| Trump's mom is a Scot, and I've learned the cliche, certainly true, about Scots from Scotland. | ||
| They're the tightest bunch you'll ever run into, but they're also good people and have a lot of courage. | ||
| And I got some Scot in my background. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| What just happened there? | ||
| But the point is, is that Trump is the type of guy that constantly gives to charity, never tells anybody. | ||
| He helps kids get livers, kidneys. | ||
| Sometimes he'll just like somebody that works for him and learn they have a problem and buy him a house. | ||
| I mean, this is real stuff Trump does. | ||
| You need to stop listening to Roger Stone. | ||
| That is not stuff that Trump does. | ||
| No, do you remember how Trump's charity was famous for... | ||
| Self-dealing? | ||
| Oh, was that it? | ||
| I thought it was giving away so much money to charity. | ||
| No, it turns out that charity was funneling money to him and his family. | ||
| Oh, do you mean like tax-exempt money? | ||
| Kind of like what Wyclef did in Haiti. | ||
| Yeah, great work. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, I don't know. | ||
| I don't have concrete proof that he doesn't help people get kidneys or that he has an employee who he bought a... | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| He bought a house for an employee. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't know that to be true or not, but I do know other things that are true, such as him not paying his contractors really consistently. | ||
| And I would say that that kind of behavior doesn't match. | ||
| Like, if you have somebody who's such a, like, generous, giving person that they would buy an employee a house because they're having a bad time or something like that, that person will probably also pay their contractors. | ||
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Nah. | |
| Generally wouldn't screw people over. | ||
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Nah, come on. | |
| And make them lose their houses. | ||
| Nah, come on. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So anyway, his mom's a Scott. | ||
| I'm not sure what... | ||
| When he says the tightest people alive, I'm not sure if that means... | ||
| He's calling them cheap! | ||
| Well, that could be. | ||
| Or that's old-timey slang for drunk, too. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's old British slang for drunk. | ||
| He's tight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if that's the case. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm gonna go with cheap. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I think he's calling them cheap. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So that's... | ||
| Which... | ||
| Why did you shoehorn that in there? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| But that's about his mom. | ||
| Now Alex gets to Trump's dad. | ||
| The New York Times found stories and reports of his dad in the 30s when there were communist riots in New York and police reports about his dad beating up four or five of them. | ||
| That was his father. | ||
| Good. | ||
| And so that's where Trump comes from. | ||
| He comes from a cheap Scott and a violent man. | ||
| I can't find any evidence that Fred Trump ever beat up a bunch of communists in New York during a skirmish. | ||
| However, on Memorial Day 1927 in New York City, there was a brawl between the Ku Klux Klan and Italian fascist sympathizers, which led to the deaths of two of the Italian fascists. | ||
| Why were they on the opposite sides? | ||
| Later, in Queens, at least 1,000 Klan members marched on this Memorial Day, which of course pissed off a bunch of folks. | ||
| Another brawl started. | ||
| In the aftermath, seven people were arrested. | ||
| One of these men was Fred Trump, Donald Trump's dad. | ||
| It's unclear, based on all public records, exactly what he was up to, but the brawl which he was in was between the Klan representing Protestant nativist outrage and the Catholics representing the group that the Protestants felt they were being oppressed by, namely the Catholic police. | ||
| And Trump's family are not Catholics. | ||
| The other six men who were arrested were all Klan guys, which makes you think that Fred probably was, too. | ||
| The argument has been made that the other six men were charged, whereas Fred was released, and thus he must be innocent. | ||
| That may be the case. | ||
| Money! | ||
| Might be the case, but it's equally likely that he was the only one of the seven to be rich and was able to bribe the notoriously corrupt 1920s New York judicial system. | ||
| Money! | ||
| A lot of people have tried to make the argument that before this, at this point, Fred Trump wasn't rich. | ||
| And that's not true. | ||
| At this point, he'd already built over 20 homes or houses in Queens and sold them. | ||
| Good amount of land at his disposal. | ||
| Money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he was already rich. | ||
| Maybe he wasn't the billionaire that he would end up being, or multi-multi-millionaire, but he was plenty loaded to bribe the notoriously corrupt New York judicial system in the 20s. | ||
| And cheap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Notoriously cheap to corrupt. | ||
| It was the late 20s. | ||
| It was not hard. | ||
| You needed to be slightly upper middle class to do just a good bribe. | ||
| Now, humorously, when asked for comment about this, Donald Trump was less than subtle. | ||
| Quote, he has nothing to do with- I hate blacks! | ||
| He has nothing to do with this. | ||
| This never happened. | ||
| This is nonsense and it never happened. | ||
| This never happened. | ||
| Never took place. | ||
| He was never arrested. | ||
| Never convicted. | ||
| Never even charged. | ||
| It's completely false. | ||
| Ridiculous story. | ||
| He was never there! | ||
| It never happened. | ||
| Wait, that was all in one sentence? | ||
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| Makes me think it happened. | ||
| Who are you trying to convince, buddy? | ||
| Who are you trying to convince, you or me? | ||
| A little over the top on that denial. | ||
| That might be a little over the top. | ||
| The lady doth protest too much. | ||
| So ultimately, anything is possible here, except for the idea that Fred Trump beat up a bunch of communists. | ||
| Was it a Ku Klux Klan member who was a giant racist? | ||
| There are some reports that I could find. | ||
| I'm not sure exactly how solid these are. | ||
| But there's some reports, contemporaneous reports, that all the dudes who got arrested were in Klan regalia. | ||
| I don't know if that's the case. | ||
| That's not from the New York Times article. | ||
| But there's some indications that the people were in costume. | ||
| And if that's the case, then hey. | ||
| Oh, and they all use the same lawyer. | ||
| So that's kind of suspicious. | ||
| Eh, come on. | ||
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| Come on. | ||
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Dang. | |
| What? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| So Alex, in this next clip, explains why Trump is a great leader. | ||
| And it's not great. | ||
| He hates blacks! | ||
| He supports the NPC meme. | ||
| There is so much to cover today. | ||
| It is just unbelievable. | ||
| We have Honduras and Guatemala, after being funded by the U.N., openly launching massive invasion forces and opening up migration routes into the United States to countermand the fact that Trump last year pulled out You mean a humanitarian mission? | ||
| To help refugees? | ||
| Within hours, Honduras and Guatemala responded to stop migrant caravan after Trump threats. | ||
| That is the Associated Press. | ||
| So we're talking diplomatically, politically instant response to Trump putting his foot down and saying, I notice you've got borders. | ||
| So, this is a story that Alex is trying to pitch that Trump threatened to stop all foreign aid to Honduras and Guatemala if they didn't stop sending caravans. | ||
| So, Alex is presenting this story as being cut and dry. | ||
| Real simple. | ||
| A bunch of immigrants are trying to come up from Honduras. | ||
| Trump threatened to cut foreign aid to the country, and their president shook in his boots to kowtow to Trump's bold America First machismo. | ||
| There we go! | ||
| There's a couple problems. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I don't need to hear these, Dan. | ||
| Obviously correct. | ||
| We can move on. | ||
| Alright, next. | ||
| The first problem here is that Honduras didn't really bend to the will of Trump. | ||
| Mexico has threatened to detain or deport the refugees in the Honduran caravan should they end up reaching their border. | ||
| The most that Honduras has done is that the foreign ministry warned that there may be people in, quote, political sectors making false promises to the refugees that they'll be able to seek asylum in the United States and that they should not let themselves be used by a, quote, movement that is obviously political and is meant to upset governability, stability, and peace. | ||
| Don't trust Whitey! | ||
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| What could this possibly mean, you ask yourself? | ||
| You think it's about Whitey. | ||
| Alex doesn't know because he didn't read the rest of this Associated Press article. | ||
| But if he had read the article that he's citing, he would see, quote, Fernando André, leader of the governing national party, claimed opponents of Honduras'politics. | ||
| president were behind the migrant exodus. | ||
| Quote, it's a strategy planned and financed by the opposition, he said. | ||
| Familiar rhetoric. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So you basically have a Central American, maybe not so popular president, who has gotten into power, and the Association of American States has been like, hey, there's a lot of irregularities with your election, and now he's trying to demonize the people who want to get out of the country. | ||
| No idea what you're talking about. | ||
| Maybe some sort of globalist plot. | ||
| Maybe Soros is behind it. | ||
| So, the second issue here is that the threat of cutting off foreign aid was not necessarily what got anyone to do anything. | ||
| It was Trump threatening to literally close the southern U.S. border and send in the military. | ||
| Quote, Can he do that? | ||
| I must, in the strongest terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught. | ||
| And if possible to do so, I will call up the U.S. military and all caps, close our southern border. | ||
| He refers to refugees trying to save their lives by coming to America and onslaught. | ||
| That's not great. | ||
| It should go without saying, but according to Alex's belief about what the president can and cannot do with the army vis-a-vis operating domestically, Alex should be livid about that tweet. | ||
| Unless he considers this not a domestic action, in which case Alex would legitimately need to be advocating war with Mexico, and I guess Honduras. | ||
| Basically, you have to say that these troops are going to be used non-domestically, and then that would be war. | ||
| No, they put them directly on the border. | ||
| So they got one foot in, one foot out. | ||
| It's not really domestic. | ||
| It's not really war. | ||
| It's like going to the four corners. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You're in all the states at the same time. | ||
| Okay, that's possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| The third problem is that when Trump was talking about foreign aid, he said he was, quote, "stopping all payments to these countries which seem to have almost no control over their population." The thing that Alex Jones yells about the most, the biggest fear that he's ever had, is the idea of a government having control over their population. | ||
| Any innocuous comment from a politician he doesn't like is magically transformed into proof that the government is trying to control him. | ||
| Whether it be by taking his precious guns, or just by making him feel bad that In reality... | ||
| This is largely a replaying out of the tension that happened back in April, when a group of about 1,100 people walked up from Central America to the border in a combination of an annual symbolic protest, as well as an attempt for many of them to reach the border, intentionally turn themselves in and plead for asylum. | ||
| Trump saw a report about this on Fox& Friends and immediately tweeted out that this was an invasion and threatened to send in the National Guard. | ||
| According to The Guardian, he threatened to cut off all foreign aid to Honduras then. | ||
| It's familiar. | ||
| Both threats were ultimately empty. | ||
| But in April, Mexico did not stop the refugees from reaching the border. | ||
| Quote, they didn't act the way Trump wanted, Iranio Mujica said. | ||
| When Trump started tweeting, we were afraid, but the Mexican government responded humanely and sensibly. | ||
| We didn't expect that. | ||
| We thought they would cave to Trump, but they didn't. | ||
| One of the members of the April Caravan was Chanel Smith, the 27-year-old trans woman from Honduras. | ||
| Quote, Another was Jocelyn Amador, 22, who operated a small business selling mobile phone accessories in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, but also had to flee after being unable to pay a pair of $125 extortion payments. | ||
| Another was Isabel Niero Rodriguez, 52 years old, who also fled after extortion demands. | ||
| She tried to open a bakery in El Salvador, but a gang demanded $300 as a fee for starting operations and threatened to kill her grandson if she didn't pay. | ||
| The Mexican government responded humanely and allowed these refugees to reach their destination rather than detaining them and sending them back to a very likely death. | ||
| In June 2018, the Department of Homeland Security reported that from April 19th to May 31st, at least 1,995 children were separated from their families at the border. | ||
| Since then, allegations have come out about rampant physical and sexual abuse of detainees, as well as the thing that Alex seemed to be very concerned about, which is forced medication of children. | ||
| Though the Trump administration had been considering implementing the family separation policy since his literal inauguration day, the timeline strongly suggests that he put the policy in action almost as a way of punishing the Mexican government for not stopping the refugee caravan in the spring of 2018. | ||
| This isn't just me making a loose conjecture. | ||
| The Guardian even makes the connection very clearly. | ||
| Quote, the Mexican government allowed hundreds of migrants, mainly Hondurans, to reach the U.S. border, infuriating Trump, who initiated the family separation policy soon after. | ||
| Beyond the human tragedy that has been witnessed since this policy was implemented, studies have also shown that it has had little to no deterrent effect on refugees and immigrants trying to reach the United States. | ||
| Further, analyses of the data have shown that the cost of housing people who were detained under Trump's separation plan averages out to about $775 per person per day, as opposed to $256 per person per day under the previous system. | ||
| In order to compensate for this increased cost of being cruel to an almost inhuman level, the Trump administration announced that it planned to shift more than $260 million that was supposed to go to HIV and cancer research into covering the costs of separating families. | ||
| If I had to guess, I would say that this is not because Trump is an idiot who doesn't care about other people but himself, but because he knows that the holographic med beds that cure all diseases are right around the corner and spending any money trying to cure cancer is just wasting money. | ||
| So... | ||
| I mean, so fuck all that noise. | ||
| I don't know how to put a button on anything, but, you know, this is all bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit's bad. | ||
| Yeah, this is the, what, second time I've had to completely walk away from the show for a second? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you want to bring that up, sure. | ||
| Yeah, I had to stop recording for a little bit and take a breather on that one. | ||
| Behind the scenes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it's tough to listen to Alex be a complete monster about very predictable things and things that we've seen play out already, even in the last six months. | ||
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| You know, it's really tough. | ||
| To experience that without having some sort of a visceral reaction, I don't think that's wrong at all. | ||
| I did not predict how impactful that would be, necessarily, but maybe that's just because I'm so jaded to propaganda. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| When you swim in this all day... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You know, it's... | ||
| I am as viscerally affected by it as anybody else, but at the same time, I deaden that, like... | ||
| That immediate reaction button or whatever. | ||
| I'm not saying that you're succumbing to this at all. | ||
| Please don't think that this is a judgment. | ||
| When you have people who outwardly talk and relish in the idea of bullying and trying to make people angry for fun and sport, whenever you spend... | ||
| 12, 14 hours a day studying them and digging into the methods of their propaganda, it gets to a point where, for me especially, I realize that that's part of their game, and I'm so averse to them getting what they want out of me. | ||
| And that's not the case for everybody. | ||
| This isn't the first time that you're hearing this, either. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You've done the research, your initial reaction has passed, and you're... | ||
| You're doing this in a different way, whereas this is all just hitting me in a wash all at once. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I assume everybody listening got hit in the face with that. | ||
| So if you're having a tough time here and all that, you're not alone. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| Now, Jordan, what's good news is, look, the world may be bleak. | ||
| Shoot may be real bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's one shining light of hope, and that is that Alex has a plan for Infowars.com. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| That is very bad. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is a very bad plan. | ||
| And so everyone just keep making the MPC memes. | ||
| And let them ban us. | ||
| We're going to create a whole section for memes the next week on Infowars.com like a message board. | ||
| Like some sort of... | ||
| Where you can just go in like Reddit, whatever. | ||
| As long as it's legal and lawful. | ||
| You're racist. | ||
| You're not racist. | ||
| You're Christian. | ||
| You're not Christian. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| As long as it's not illegal. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| As long as it's not threats. | ||
| We're going to bring internet freedom back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| And we'll just have Memes Central. | ||
| And the best ones will be on the front page. | ||
| And we're going to have daily prizes for memes. | ||
| Because it's memes that threaten them the most. | ||
| In fact, I'm going to announce a super fast contest that I will determine and that I will announce next Monday $10,000 for the best InfoWars themed MPC meme. | ||
| I do not know why. | ||
| I'm lying. | ||
| I do know why. | ||
| The first thing he comes up with is racist? | ||
| Not racist? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| No big deal! | ||
| Anything goes. | ||
| All bets are off. | ||
| Two bad pieces of news for Alex. | ||
| One, the racist meme message board category is well served on the internet. | ||
| There's not a need for another one. | ||
| Plenty of those available for people to use already. | ||
| So InfoWars is going to fail on that level. | ||
| Second, Alex, check out your message board already. | ||
| Check out your comment section. | ||
| Plenty of racism already. | ||
| Yeah, you don't need to worry about that. | ||
| Plenty of Christianity, plenty of racism. | ||
| No shortage. | ||
| No, none at all. | ||
| No shortage. | ||
| All of this, hey, task already accomplished. | ||
| This is like, he just discovered me, this is like you're explaining to your grandpa why there are too many browser extensions. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no, the browser's supposed to be filled with eight different forms of Yahoo search engine, right? | ||
| Or it would be like you being like, Dan? | ||
| I got to tell you about Bitcoin today. | ||
| If you were telling me today about this exciting thing, knowledge fight's going to get into Bitcoin. | ||
| Hell yeah, we are. | ||
| We're going to get on the ground floor of this Bitcoin thing. | ||
| Dan, there is this fucking cat that can play a goddamn piano. | ||
| I don't even know how he does it. | ||
| It's magic. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| I mean, it's not a full grand piano, so, you know, not as many points there. | ||
| It's just a little Cassiotone keyboard, but seriously. | ||
| Jordan, Jordan, Jordan. | ||
| If you heard of Starbucks, we got to get some stock. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Alex is pathetically late to the game on this. | ||
| So what is a Macintosh, but like, really? | ||
| Like, what is a Macintosh? | ||
| It's like an... | ||
| What? | ||
| It's a kind of Apple. | ||
| That's why Apple named it that. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
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| Oh, I thought it was some sort of Tosh 2.4. | ||
| They're so clever. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex, you know, he sort of had some time to ruminate on being kicked off all the social networks out there. | ||
| And this is what he has to say about it. | ||
| Did I try to get banned? | ||
| Like, uh... | ||
| No. | ||
| They had a Facebook set about me? | ||
| Oh, we think Jones wanted to be banned. | ||
| No, I didn't want to be banned. | ||
| But I wasn't going to self-censor. | ||
| So, that's what he says. | ||
| Now, this is what he says immediately after that. | ||
| So, I sat there and had a meeting with my dad. | ||
| Head of HR. | ||
| But my dad works with us here because I can trust him. | ||
| He does a great job. | ||
| And he said, man, you're really pushing it. | ||
| You're going to get banned everywhere. | ||
| I said, dad, I'm already banned. | ||
| And he said, well, just don't go further than you would. | ||
| Don't let them go to you. | ||
| And I said, I'm not. | ||
| I'm sitting back and thinking about what would I really be saying. | ||
| And if I've begun to govern what I say, not because what I'm saying is not true, but because I don't want to be censored. | ||
| And I said, I have begun to bend my will. | ||
| So you were trying to get banned? | ||
| They're going to ban me before the election. | ||
| They're planning after the election to ban everybody publicly. | ||
| They're planning now to just do it quietly. | ||
| I'm going to force them to ban me. | ||
| That really sounds like he's like, I'm going to get them to ban me, which is intentionally getting yourself kicked off stuff, because I'm saying things that I earlier would have stopped myself from saying... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not making a lot of sense. | ||
| His dad does sound like he's probably giving him good advice, which is cool out. | ||
| Which kind of suggests the reason that he's doing it is like, fuck you, dad! | ||
| There's a piece of that. | ||
| And then there's also... | ||
| You're not the boss of me anymore! | ||
| It all boils down to oppositional defiancy, to some extent. | ||
| Whether it's to his human resource director-slash-father, or to the idea of, like, they're gonna kick us off eventually, so I'll do it first. | ||
| So I'll be the first one in the band pool. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| Son, don't say flagrantly misogynist or anti-Semitic things to your employees. | ||
| Fuck you, Dad! | ||
| You can't control me! | ||
| I'm going to take the governor off. | ||
| I was not saying those things, but now I'm going to fucking do it! | ||
| And it's not because you told me not to. | ||
| It's because I sat down and I thought about it and I realized I was holding myself back from saying anti-Semitic things. | ||
| You know how I've always been holding myself back from that? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Uh, strange. | ||
| So, I didn't listen to this whole episode. | ||
| I should be totally honest with you. | ||
| I turned it off at a certain point. | ||
| Because there's a lot of this stuff, you know, we've gone down these roads of, like, complete and utter bullshit that's masking, like, just inhuman nonsense. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And then at the same time, most of the time, the clips that we haven't played are all him talking about this meme. | ||
| He's over the moon with this meme. | ||
| So then... | ||
| I don't understand that at all. | ||
| It's not that good a meme. | ||
| It's a good meme. | ||
| It's really not. | ||
| The Fabian socialists want you to use emojis. | ||
| I don't understand what that means. | ||
| So fight back against the Fabians. | ||
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I don't understand why they want you to use emojis. | |
| Because it restricts speech. | ||
| You need memes! | ||
| What? | ||
| Look, it's nonsense. | ||
| But then he gets into a little bit of hatred for Beto O 'Rourke. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because Alex is now super into Ted Cruz. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Which I would remind everyone that he was really doubling down on the attacking Ted Cruz when Donald Trump was during the primaries. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Lion Ted, your dad was involved in the Kennedy assassination. | ||
| Now he's the best senator that there ever was! | ||
| Loves him. | ||
| He actually even says it's a national emergency if Ted Cruz doesn't win his election. | ||
| And I think there's two pieces of this. | ||
| One, Alex wasn't taking this all this seriously before because he didn't think that Beto was a serious contender. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And then second, his... | ||
| His ex-wife has been tweeting a lot about Beto and her support of him. | ||
| So I think there might be a little piece of that. | ||
| Fuck you, Dad! | ||
| He's really into Ted Cruz. | ||
| And by really into Ted Cruz, I mean really anti-Beto. | ||
| So here's the first clip of that, which is I would deem this to be irresponsible. | ||
| Beto O 'Rourke wants to ban semi-autos. | ||
| Beto O 'Rourke wants open borders. | ||
| Beto O 'Rourke wants to put globalist, communist types on the Supreme Court. | ||
| That's enough to vote against him. | ||
| I bet there's more. | ||
| To, you know, say he's a pedophile. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm saying if I was casting a creepy pervert or somebody like run a mortuary or something that like kidnaps kids and eats them or something. | ||
| I would pick Ted Cruz. | ||
| With Halloween coming up. | ||
| Obviously Ted Cruz. | ||
| I would have him working in the ghoul shop. | ||
| The most Ted Cruz. | ||
| But Beto O 'Rourke. | ||
| Ted Cruz would be the head guy. | ||
| He would be definitely working on the House of Horrors. | ||
| Now, who would be the head guy? | ||
| Ted Cruz! | ||
| Stelter. | ||
| I mean, I don't think Brian Stelter is a pedophile. | ||
|
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Cool. | |
| But he looks like the Subway founder. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Who is one. | ||
| And so many of these guys have that look. | ||
| You know the pedo look. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Like Salon and Vice worships pedophilia now. | ||
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No. | |
| And they say how great it is all the time. | ||
| And say, you know, it's good for this to happen to kids. | ||
| They have a right for men to come pick your daughter or son up. | ||
| And so all I'm saying is, central casting, folks, central casting, these guys look like slimy pieces of crap that you wouldn't let get anywhere near your children. | ||
| Of course, they want to abort your children before they're born. | ||
| They want to kill your children, if they could, before they're born. | ||
| And they want to feed them GMO and give them deadly vaccines. | ||
| Cool, man. | ||
| He just hit the trifecta. | ||
| That was, I think... | ||
| So in his mind... | ||
| He got bingo. | ||
| In his mind, it's terrible if he called them a pedophile. | ||
| But he can say they want to kill your children before they're born. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then heavily imply... | ||
| They are pedophiles. | ||
| Because they look like pedophiles in central casting or something. | ||
| I mean, they're great, great administrators and fantastic public servants, but they look like pedophiles, so you can't vote for them. | ||
| The, like, uh... | ||
| Like, that's so... | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Like, what he's doing there is so gross. | ||
| The coupling and the word association shit that he's doing is so... | ||
| Like, it's elementary. | ||
| It's... | ||
| It's irresponsible. | ||
| It's loathsome. | ||
| I just listen to stuff like that, and I'm like, that's the kind of thing where I'm like, I don't know. | ||
| I got better things to do. | ||
| Well, his dad told him to call them pedophiles as a brilliant HR move. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Get all the riffraff to quit InfoWars. | ||
| Fuck you, Dad! | ||
| I won't call them pedophiles this time. | ||
| I know that my life as it is is kind of like, maybe, a lot of people would think possibly I'm throwing a lot of my time away and like, Maybe I'm fishing in a dry well by really trying to understand Alex Jones. | ||
| And I take that criticism. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| But even I, as fully committed as I am to this, hear shit like this, and I'm like... | ||
| I got better things to do. | ||
| I don't know why this guy is even doing a show anymore. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| This is nonsense. | ||
| And when you add in the added layer, too, of, like, the Juness stuff, the multi-level marketing incorporation he's got in on... | ||
| How's that going so far? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't heard him talk about it, but I don't listen to his show much. | ||
| So I'm going to go with great. | ||
| I don't listen to his present-day show much anymore because it makes me feel like this. | ||
| It makes me feel like I'm not doing anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I understand there's, like, okay, you know, THX 1138. | ||
| We can learn a little bit. | ||
| We can point a finger at Paul Joseph Watson for snarkily saying everyone should do research when he hasn't done any himself. | ||
| Sure, I can talk to you about the Honduran caravan stuff. | ||
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We can do that, sure, but the rest of this is... | |
| And let me tell you something. | ||
| Say what you want. | ||
| That fight scene with Darth Maul at the end of Phantom Menace was great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You gotta give it to him there. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But the rest of the show is dog shit. | ||
| It's nothing. | ||
| It's a man spinning his wheels and doing nothing. | ||
| And this next clip is about where I was like, alright, I'm out. | ||
| I wish you well, Alex. | ||
| I don't need to listen to this fucking bullshit anymore. | ||
| Because, listen to this. | ||
| Speaking of Peto O 'Rourke. | ||
| Nice! | ||
| I'm sorry, it's Beta O 'Rourke. | ||
| Nice! | ||
| When you got a name like Beta, it's easy to say Peto O 'Rourke. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| It's not Beto O 'Rourke. | ||
| It's not Peto O 'Rourke. | ||
| Oh, it's Beto. | ||
| Peto? | ||
| Peto O 'Rourke. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| Well, I'm having a problem with my transmitter, then. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Can somebody come in here? | ||
| It's breaking. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Sometimes I have, like, this moment, this mental block. | ||
| So many great right-wing comedians. | ||
| Beto O 'Rourke. | ||
| Liar O 'Rourke. | ||
| Chicken Neck O 'Rourke. | ||
| Colin's not good. | ||
| Scallywag O 'Rourke. | ||
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What? | |
| I don't care. | ||
| That's the one you close on? | ||
| If you're a communist or a socialist. | ||
| If you're fleeing California, that's great. | ||
| Just don't bring it here. | ||
| But when your family is a bunch of fake Texans and you talk like Obama mixed with Bernie Sanders, just get out of my state, you scumbag. | ||
| Beto grew up in El Paso. | ||
| There's Diplo O 'Rourke. | ||
| There's Girl Talk O 'Rourke. | ||
| There's Bagger Vance O 'Rourke. | ||
| Everybody knows these. | ||
| I would say that Alex is not as good as his daddy, Donald Trump, at coming up with nicknames for people, because all that is soft. | ||
| Scallywag O 'Rourke? | ||
| Scallywag! | ||
| That's his closer? | ||
| Well, because he said carpetbagger right before that. | ||
| Carpetbagger O 'Rourke. | ||
| And so I think that they could just associate it in his mind. | ||
| And scallywag is a fun word. | ||
| It's a fun word, but it's not an insult. | ||
| It's actually kind of like, oh, you scallywag. | ||
| It's almost like a begrudging respect for you getting away with nonsense. | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
| I think it's a bad term. | ||
| I remember I looked this up a while ago, and I think it's actually, like... | ||
| Isn't it from, like, Pirates or whatever? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah, it's a person who behaves badly, but in amusingly mischievous... | ||
| See? | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| It's some other word like scallywag that, like, is just in our vernacular, but we don't really know the etymology of. | ||
| I can't remember what it is. | ||
| No, that's the N word, actually. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I can't remember what it was, but there's another one I looked up that was like, oh, shit, that's a bad word. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That I thought was just a fun word. | ||
| But, yeah, okay, scallywag is good. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, so he's... | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| That's weak. | ||
| He's mischievous. | ||
| That's weak. | ||
| But then the comedy bit of like, oh, my earpiece isn't working. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Pedo O 'Rourke? | ||
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Man. | |
| Pedo O 'Rourke? | ||
| It's a bad comedy piece, and it goes on forever. | ||
| That clip is almost a minute long. | ||
| He goes even further with it, and he's like, who's that cow at UT? | ||
| Bevo! | ||
| Bevo O 'Rourke! | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| Like, you are grasping at straws, buddy. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like, I hear stuff like this, and I'm just like, I gotta go, man. | ||
| It's kind of like being around someone you don't want to be around. | ||
| And I know that it's kind of my job to be around someone no one wants to be around with Alex. | ||
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Yeah, a little bit. | |
| But, like, I just, like, I want him to do better, and I'm not getting anything out of it. | ||
| And I'm just hearing him be like, Beto O 'Rourke, Beto O 'Rourke. | ||
| I'm just like, this is pathetic. | ||
| This is... | ||
| On the same show that Paul Joseph Watson is basically saying, like, we just do playground insults and when you respond poorly to it, we keep doing it because that's what bullies do. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I hear him do this name-calling game. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
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This is sad. | |
| He can do better! | ||
| Yeah, he has it in him. | ||
| He could do better. | ||
| Maybe not anymore. | ||
| Maybe not anymore. | ||
| Maybe he's lost a step or whatever, but like... | ||
| He is like the Curt Schilling of radio hosts that nobody pays attention to anymore. | ||
| How do you mean? | ||
| He's lost his fastball. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| That is fair. | ||
| Yeah, because this... | ||
| I've resorted to noises because I don't even know how to express my disappointment in this shit. | ||
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Run, run, run, run, run! | |
| It's so bad. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know that there's not a ton of people listening to this, but I don't know how anybody is listening to this anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back on Monday. | ||
| Well, you gotta get your racism somewhere. | ||
| And some people don't like going to the Fox News, man. | ||
| There's better places for your racism. | ||
| I would say that, like, if anything... | ||
| What this diminished quality in Alex's show is probably doing is pushing people to much harder stuff. | ||
| Yeah, like a Ruby Tuesday. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know what's going on there. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Yeah, well, now you do. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| They're having the meetings at the Ruby Tuesday? | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| Everybody knew that. | ||
| They had to leave Bennigans. | ||
| Bennigans would no longer handle the alt-right anymore. | ||
| You've got to respect Bennigans. | ||
| It's not a popular decision. | ||
| They're going to get a lot of bad Yelp reviews. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You've got to take a stand. | ||
| You've got to take a stand somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, so I don't know. | ||
| We'll be back on Monday with whatever, probably 2009 stuff, because I can't do this much. | ||
| Yeah, we've got to take a break for a bit. | ||
| I can't do this modern-day stuff. | ||
| You expect to find one thing, and you find nothing. | ||
| Nothing but atrocities. | ||
| Anyway, we have a website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| What if you wanted to find us on this social media network? | ||
| You could find us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| What if you wanted to watch the social network? | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| I think it would be... | ||
| What, Torrent? | ||
| Kazaa? | ||
| Was that how you would do it? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe it's on Amazon Prime. | ||
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What social network was that based on, though? | |
| Facebook. | ||
| Alright, can we be found there? | ||
| You can, on Facebook. | ||
| We also have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| We are on iTunes. | ||
| You can leave a review. | ||
| You can do the whole thing. | ||
| Yes, very much you can. | ||
| Guys? | ||
| What's up, Dan? | ||
| I feel like you've got some information you've got to get off your chest. | ||
| You've been hiding this for so long. | ||
| It's time to come clean. | ||
| Well, I would say I don't have a lot of experience with gaming. | ||
| It's not a big part of my life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I know that... | ||
| By and large, NPCs, non-playable characters, most of the time they exist to have dialogue with you. | ||
| Like in Skyrim, maybe you talk to somebody and it starts a quest. | ||
| They give you a quest! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of that. | ||
| NPCs are actually very important to the quality of the game. | ||
| Generally speaking, you can't really play the game without them because they precipitate a lot of the actions. | ||
| They're an essential piece. | ||
| And a lot of the time, they don't kill you. | ||
| But one guy I do know has killed somebody. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Technically. | ||
| And that's Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |