Today, Dan tells Jordan about what Alex Jones is up to since he got kicked off of a lot of social media. Is he shook? Yes. Does he have stupid ideas about what's happening to him? Of course he does. He's also ranting about China and expressing his fear of seeing Muslim women in public, so it's clear that being off social media hasn't changed him that much.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| What up? | ||
| Dan? | ||
| What? | ||
| Where was the last vacation you took? | ||
| Last vacation I took was last night hanging out with you and your girlfriend drinking Dom Perignon. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| It was a vacation to luxury. | ||
| It was. | ||
| If you will. | ||
| Other than that, I don't know, do you count doing comedy on the road vacation? | ||
| Um, sure. | ||
| Then I guess, I don't know, the drop. | ||
| In Indiana? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| That's a scenic Indiana. | ||
| Everybody loves vacationing in Indiana. | ||
| South Bend. | ||
| You've seen so many tourism commercials for Indiana. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I went and did a weekend with the delightful Nick Rowley out there. | ||
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Oh, that sounds fun. | |
| It was a super fun time. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Do you know a lot about Alex Jones? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Would you say more so than most people in Indiana? | ||
| Yes, it's my permanent vacation studying Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| That wasn't so great. | ||
| And I know less about Alex Jones than a lot of people in Indiana, I assume. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's a lot of... | ||
| Actually, I went and did a... | ||
| I was not on the show, but I went and hung out with a friend of the show, Marty DeRosa, in a show he did in the middle of nowhere in Indiana. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's one of the few times I've ever seen an InfoWars shirt in the wild. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, and InfoWars hat and a Hillary for Prison shirt. | ||
|
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Oh, boy. | |
| And I almost fell out of my booth, my bar booth. | ||
| I was so taken aback by this weirdo. | ||
| So I know less about Alex Jones than him? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Or perhaps I know more about Alex Jones than him since he bought his merchandise. | ||
| Yeah, he might have all the trappings of the mark. | ||
| But someone who doesn't have the trappings of the mark is our new donor. | ||
| Very excited to give a shout-out to this person jumping on, coming on board. | ||
| We appreciate it so much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk, Dr. Dillon. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you very much, Dr. Dillon. | ||
| It is lovely to have multiple people with advanced degrees follow our show. | ||
| I'm not sure if this is an actual doctor or just the name that he's chosen to take on. | ||
| Dr. Dillon is a medical doctor. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| I can only imagine that... | ||
| He treated me for the rickets once. | ||
| Getting the honorific title of policy wonk second only to medical doctor. | ||
| To a medical degree. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got something very exciting in your lap. | ||
| We've got another package. | ||
| We've got a little something in the mail. | ||
| I know, actually, that this one is from listener Catherine, who actually called in on our last episode. | ||
| Oh, man! | ||
| She is becoming an all-star, apparently. | ||
| This is going to just turn into the Catherine. | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| A Super Fight, a game of absurd arguments. | ||
| Ooh, oh no. | ||
| That could be a very dangerous thing for us to engage in. | ||
| Super Fight is a game where you argue with your friends over ridiculous fights. | ||
| That sounds like what we would do with or without a card game. | ||
| Yeah, the game is very simple. | ||
| It's fun for all levels and works for all kinds of players. | ||
| Why are we running an ad for this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| They deserve a plug because we just got a free copy of it. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| Here you go. | ||
| This would have been nice for last night when we were drinking Dom Perignon at your house. | ||
| Do you know what that was? | ||
| Do you know what that is? | ||
| That is the book by Chris Bekelder writ large. | ||
| That's Bear vs. | ||
| Shark right there. | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| Bear vs. | ||
| Shark turned into a game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, thank you so much, Catherine. | ||
| That's very nice of you. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| We will give this a test run the next time we're doing something. | ||
| Maybe after the show? | ||
| Yeah, it's entirely possible. | ||
| Or maybe we'll just start a branched-off podcast now, or I'll sit around. | ||
| You don't have to be here. | ||
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I'll sit around. | |
| People can call in, and I'll have absurd arguments. | ||
| I'll play that game with people. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He will do that off-air. | ||
| He'll just convince you that you are recording, and it's just really him being alone. | ||
| Just like, hey, anybody want to play some game? | ||
| But if you do call in, that is something you can do. | ||
| You might end up on our voicemail. | ||
| So let's check the voicemail bag. | ||
| We got segments now, son. | ||
| Too many bits up top. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we did get another call. | ||
| I'm very excited to hear this little bit of information from a listener. | ||
|
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Hello, Dan and Jordan. | |
| This is Andrew from Reading, California. | ||
| You may not know, but 530 represents many cities, and Reading is about an hour north of Chico. | ||
| So, if you come... | ||
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All the way to Chico to do a live show. | |
| I expect to see you in Reading. | ||
| And also, I just wanted to say, I love you. | ||
| Oh, Andy in Kansas. | ||
| What a fun thing this is turning into now where we're being bullied into a tour of small town California. | ||
| Why not? | ||
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Hey! | |
| I mean, Chico has like 80,000 people in it. | ||
| You looked that up last night. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| I wanted it to come off as though I knew a random population. | ||
| Yeah, I just know populations. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| Reading has, you know, 140,000. | ||
| I like this. | ||
| I made that up. | ||
| And I like the idea that this is going to become sort of a thing that people are going to insist we do, and we're... | ||
| Make no mistake about it, we're not. | ||
| No, it's not going to happen. | ||
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Please, please. | |
| We would love to. | ||
| We would love to. | ||
| And we appreciate your threats. | ||
| Logistics are tough. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But thank you for the call. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| If you'd like to reach us, you can do so by calling 1-530-NEON-NIP. | ||
| Just one nip. | ||
| Just one nip. | ||
| The other one died tragically in a phone call accident. | ||
| Yes, indeed. | ||
| You can reach our voicemail and, I don't know, if I start playing this Super Fight game on the phone, you can play that with me on it. | ||
| And apparently, if you're from the 530 zip code, you're the only ones whose voicemails are going to get played on the show. | ||
| For now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that bit is strong. | ||
| So, Jordan, today what we've got in front of us is a current episode. | ||
| All right. | ||
| How's he doing? | ||
| Is he okay? | ||
| Has anybody, like, has a therapist called on air yet? | ||
| 7170'd him? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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86 on the 86. 2112's him? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| 9-11. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, he's still left to his own devices. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So we generally like to start the week out with a 2009 episode, but if I'm being perfectly honest, I'm making progress through those episodes, listening to them, getting through it, and he's in a bit of a boring state. | ||
| So if I were to come to you with the information that I have from the next few days, Chinese! | ||
| Not a whole lot! | ||
| For a guy who has been kicked off of everything, more or less, and now is just spinning his wheels in this weird state that he's found himself in, it's a bad show. | ||
| He's reeling. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| He's just saying the same shit over and over again. | ||
| It's profoundly boring. | ||
| I mean, you nailed it already. | ||
| He's just blaming China. | ||
| Which, I mean, he was already doing that before for years. | ||
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Right. | |
| So that's not anything new. | ||
| He's not evolving the narrative at all. | ||
| It's all very, very boring. | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| So I listen to... | ||
| He's phoning it in. | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| I think he's just waiting for, like... | ||
| The guillotine? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then he can pretend it's a noble death or something like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The political guillotine. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because if Twitter goes, then he's... | ||
| Deep, deep trouble. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I read that they're sticking by him pretty hard for no reason anyone can say, considering that... | ||
| No reason anyone could even think of. | ||
| No, and they even admitted that whenever they said he didn't violate their terms and conditions, then people brought up all those tweets and they're like, okay, so yeah, he did, but we're still not going to kick him off. | ||
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Right. | |
| Actually, Alex has a theory about why he hasn't been kicked off Twitter, which we'll get to in a little bit. | ||
| But, if he doesn't... | ||
| If he doesn't... | ||
| Right-wing... | ||
| Or even just lesser things. | ||
| I don't mean lesser, but there's less people who watch Dailymotion or something like that. | ||
| But there are those secondary video streaming services. | ||
| He could do any of those things. | ||
| Has he been kicked off Google Plus yet? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No one knows what's going on in Google Plus. | ||
| He could stream on LinkedIn. | ||
| He could stream on LinkedIn. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've never been on it. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| So, I mean, he's... | ||
| You'd think that he should be a little bit more, like, fired up? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| This is rallying the troops. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| And I'll say that I listened to the August 9th episode, and it was incredibly boring, and I wouldn't be going over it except for things like this that he says. | ||
| But do they want to arrest the former mayor of London who's a liberal? | ||
| Because he said there's people with burkas everywhere? | ||
| That's not good in a Western society? | ||
| Where are the feminists? | ||
| They're looking at arresting him. | ||
| I have the articles. | ||
| At this point, Alex pulls up an article about how they aren't going to arrest Boris Johnson for his anti-Muslim comments. | ||
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All right. | |
| So then he has to scramble. | ||
| First, they were saying it was a criminal offense. | ||
| Now they're saying it isn't. | ||
| This is their intimidation. | ||
| I was in a cheesecake factory and women came in in the beekeeper suits. | ||
| Scared the hell out of me. | ||
| I got three daughters. | ||
| They were there with me. | ||
| They're like, Dad, what's that? | ||
| A woman was getting food and eating under a deal. | ||
| She's a slave under Sharia. | ||
| So now we can add... | ||
| Wait, what did he call... | ||
| I did not know what he was talking about until the later contact. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah, that's one of his really insulting things that he says. | ||
| That's pretty insulting. | ||
| Yeah, pretty crazy. | ||
| But also now we can add Cheesecake Factory to the pool supply shop, the places where Alex does not think Muslim women belong. | ||
| It scares to see them there in any way. | ||
| That's pathetic. | ||
| All I hear there is like, that's you, dude. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| In his defense, I do think a lot of people view the Cheesecake Factory as the last great white bastion. | ||
| It's the bastion of freedom. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I don't disagree. | ||
| For white people, specifically. | ||
| Nobody else can tolerate that sort of bullshit. | ||
| No, it's terrible. | ||
| I will say that I live in a neighborhood in Chicago that has a pretty diverse population, and there are a lot of people who walk around in hijabs or even burqas, and I don't have a second thought about it. | ||
| I walk by and I give the head nod that I give to everybody that I walk past in my social life. | ||
| I can't imagine... | ||
| Actually, I can. | ||
| It's just bigotry. | ||
| But other than that, I can't imagine a rational reason to be like, I'm scared to see these people in public. | ||
| Boycotting the fabric industry. | ||
| Because they're using more fabric. | ||
| The Middle East is at the textile market corner for centuries. | ||
| For too long. | ||
| That's where the whole burka thing started. | ||
| They were just like, we have so much fabric. | ||
| Excessive amounts of fabric. | ||
| So, the issue that it comes down to, and actually I found this awesome article in Vox that I'll get to a little bit of what, there's a great response to this. | ||
| But Boris Johnson was talking about Muslims wearing... | ||
| Coverings. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He said some racist things and then he refused to take them back. | ||
| Well, because there's that whole attempting to ban burkas, what have you. | ||
| And his comment was... | ||
| Like France did. | ||
| Quote, if you say that it's weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree. | ||
| I would go further and say that it's absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letterboxes. | ||
| He also said that if, quote, "a female student turned up at school or at a university lecture looking like a bank robber, he would ask her to remove her face covering in order to speak to him." He added that humans, quote, "must be able to see each other's faces." So, people came to his aid somewhat, people on his side, because this one guy, Ian Martin, he commented that, quote, he tweeted this out. | ||
| Many reasons to dislike the burqa, but disrespect of the deaf, who often need to see faces to follow communication, always high on the list. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| That is a take! | ||
| That is a hot... | ||
| Fucking take. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Do you know why we have to ban burkas? | ||
| Because the deaf can't read your lips, assholes! | ||
| Some good responses to this. | ||
| People just clowning on him after that on Twitter. | ||
| This one person wrote, As a deaf person, I kindly ask you not to speak for me. | ||
| I do not find it disrespectful and encourage those to wear and be able to wear whatever they want to choose. | ||
| It's their face and their right to cover it. | ||
| It's weird how she ended that with, also, I don't even like those people. | ||
| Which is like, wait, I like where you're, I don't know which team I'm on here. | ||
| Josh underscore Salisbury came in with, you know who else covers their face and make it hard to lip read? | ||
| Literally any man with a beard. | ||
| I welcome you all to go clean shaven out of respect for the deaf and hard of hearing people. | ||
| Michael Yunaki came in with, I'm a deaf writer. | ||
| I've interviewed Muslims, and I've asked that very question about the burqa. | ||
| Their response was simple. | ||
| We will find a way to help you communicate. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty much, I believe, the general feel of it. | ||
| So this is what Boris Johnson isn't getting in trouble for, and Alex is responding to to the point where he has to say, I don't want to see any Muslims in a cheesecake factory. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Cool. | |
| You know... | ||
| The thing about what Boris Johnson said is that it's dumb even if you let go of the bigotry part of it. | ||
| The idea that he is saying, I think it's ridiculous that people should choose to wear this is just a farcical thing to say because look at you. | ||
| You're ridiculous for all the things you choose to do. | ||
| The haircut choice. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Look at your dumb fuck face. | ||
| You choose to continue having that. | ||
| You could get fucking plastic surgery. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Look at your goddamn clothes. | ||
| You choose to wear those and they're fucking terrible. | ||
| What are you talking about, you idiot? | ||
| That Vox article also posted, they have like a really choice. | ||
| Unflattering. | ||
| Choice picture of him hanging from a zip line. | ||
| It appears... | ||
| Do they mention that at all? | ||
| No, it's that picture of him hanging from a zip line with a helmet on, and it's really bunching up all his clothes, and there's Boris Johnson who is clearly concerned with not looking ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, okay, there we go. | ||
| I was gonna say, I was hoping they would just put that there with no comment at all. | ||
| They got a little petty in the caption. | ||
| You guys make your own decisions about who looks ridiculous here. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But, Alex, that's just straight up... | ||
| That's just straight up bigotry. | ||
| That's all that is. | ||
| And you trying to put it off on you have daughters, that's not fair. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| You're using them as a prop. | ||
| Well, he was trying to teach them to lip read at the time. | ||
| In the Cheesecake Factory. | ||
| We don't know if his daughters are deaf. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Anyway, his son better not grow a beard. | ||
| I'm not going to shave mine. | ||
| But Alex, on the 9th, also had some other big, huge news that actually is like, hey, Infowars is great. | ||
| We're doing awesome. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| We're the number one app in news on Android and on Apple. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And what is their response? | ||
| We're number 30-something now in the world. | ||
| Now, again, what you keep showing from yesterday is just a screenshot of trending. | ||
| Go to the actual news. | ||
| We're number one on Apple. | ||
| Pull it up. | ||
| In fact, have the crew in there get us together the new screenshots, please. | ||
| I don't want to keep using the old ones. | ||
| But you can't use new ones because there aren't new ones. | ||
| You were number one on trending because of the massive growth that you had. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You was like number three or number five on the other charts. | ||
| And that's still good, but if you go and look at them now, they've dropped considerably because those algorithms that iTunes uses in particular, Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Who were already on board, going to it, and then you're going to see diminishing returns from there. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because he has a plateau of actual people who listen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they were all people who were like... | ||
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Still a lot. | |
| They were all people who for years were like, how do I get apps on my rotary phone? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Old man house phone doesn't have an app. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He does now. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| I think that guy's probably dead. | ||
| We can only hope. | ||
| I feel very sad about that. | ||
| He had a great radio voice. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You guys do stick together, don't you? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Birds of a feather. | ||
| Birds of a voice. | ||
| Me, old man, house phone, and that homeless guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The three of us get together. | ||
| The triumvirate. | ||
| We play Super Fight. | ||
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Hang out. | |
| It's a great time. | ||
| Boy, can you imagine those velvety tones arguing? | ||
| Me and that radio guy? | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| It'd be amazing. | ||
| I would listen to that for days. | ||
| So, he's trying to get the, you know, he's still aware that people can listen to the podcast even if they're not listed on iTunes or anything like that. | ||
| So, he's trying to push my great people towards the podcast. | ||
| And I'm going to say this. | ||
| I posted this in our group, Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant, on Facebook. | ||
| I was trying to find his podcast today. | ||
| Because I was trying to find these episodes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you go to his podcast page on Infowars.com, there are five episodes listed. | ||
| All of them are January 1st, 1970. | ||
| Which can't possibly be an episode because he wasn't born. | ||
| He was not alive. | ||
| You know... | ||
| With the amount of time travel we've talked about on this show, I do not rule out him going back in time to when the media landscape was unregulated. | ||
| And he recorded those podcasts, unfortunately did not realize that the technology necessary to listen to them would not exist until much later on. | ||
| Yeah, but way ahead of his time. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| Really. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| People talk a lot about Marc Maron and pioneering podcasts. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| AJ, all the way. | ||
| AJ! | ||
| So, I couldn't find the podcast, and that's all good and well, because if you just Google Alex Jones and then a specific date, look in the video section, you'll find an unmarked video of the entire episode. | ||
| People are just going to keep doing that. | ||
| But the real fun of it was, this was a couple days ago, and the episode had a hundred hits. | ||
| Ooh! | ||
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Ooh! | |
| You start to get the sense of, like, who is really searching this out in various places? | ||
| It's probably way less than you think. | ||
| But I still can't find his podcast, and there's no way I'm going to subscribe or anything like that. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| Then he's just going to clog my phone up with a bunch of Owen Schroyer episodes and shit. | ||
| War Room, David Knight. | ||
| No thanks. | ||
| But there's one thing that is a bonus about the podcast. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Infowars.com forward slash show. | ||
| Go subscribe directly to the podcast. | ||
| It's free. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's free. | ||
| It's free. | ||
| Hear what you're not supposed to hear. | ||
| And once you download it on Android or app, tell folks about it. | ||
| But more importantly, Infowars.com forward slash show, David Knight's program, Roger Stone and Owen Schroyer's war room, my broadcast. | ||
| It's all there. | ||
| And then finally, the biggest thing at the end of the day that fights the bullies, that fights the tyrants, that fights the control freaks. | ||
| It's what you do when you support us financially. | ||
| And you get great products at the same time. | ||
| You can make a straight donation at Infowars.com. | ||
| The rare double ad to the ad pivot. | ||
| It's all that, man. | ||
| It is all that. | ||
| It's all that. | ||
| So much. | ||
| Please find us and listen to us. | ||
| I am not going to put out a great product for you to listen to. | ||
| Until you all find us and listen to us. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| I mean, it's a lot of fucking selling. | ||
| It's a lot of blame the Chinese. | ||
| So at this point, he does a good five minutes of talking about how great colloidal silver is, how great B12 is, or whatever. | ||
| And it gets to the end of the commercial. | ||
| And I keep this in only for what he says after the end of the commercial. | ||
| But do know, this is after minutes of talking about his products. | ||
| A lot of these products are $19.95, some are $9.95. | ||
| But DNA Force is something special, and we buy a lot more of it, so we're able to lower the price of it from $140 to normally $99, but right now it is $70 at InfoWarsStore.com or InfoWarsLife.com or 888-253-3139. | ||
| They think America's going down without a fight. | ||
| They think they're going to just push us aside easily. | ||
| No! | ||
| We have victory in our blood. | ||
| We have destiny in our heart. | ||
| We have will in our soul, and we will never back down and never get in. | ||
| In fact, there's a... | ||
| They can see! | ||
| The Warhammer's ready! | ||
| We are energizing towards the main collision. | ||
| Ha ha ha! | ||
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Ha ha ha ha! | |
| It's good timing. | ||
| It's good timing. | ||
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Did we just get the 300 speech and then it ended with... | |
| Well, because that's the part of the do-hast. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But, like, dude, all I hear there is fucking artificial excitement. | ||
| All I hear is do-do-do-do-do. | ||
| You can't, like, ramp yourself up that quickly from, look, this product's $70, but it's really good. | ||
| You guys should probably get it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's so fake. | ||
| It's just so performative. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| We have so much victory in our blood. | ||
| We should get some silver in there, too. | ||
| We're doing a going-out-of-business sale. | ||
| Our products are 50% off. | ||
| That means that, like all mattress stores, we're going to be in business forever. | ||
| I don't know if I have the clip in one of the clips that I have, but there's a part where he's like... | ||
| You know, like, you know, most of the store is free shipping. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Free shipping on everything. | ||
| Oh, you're a used car dealer now. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| This is real bad. | ||
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Yep. | |
| But the other thing, too, is even in his diminished state and, you know, the place that he's in and how laughable all this is and how naked that Islamophobia is that he's manifesting, when he says stuff like, we're ramping up to the final collision. | ||
| If you're on board with him, that's the sort of thing that's really going to stick in your craw. | ||
| That's the sort of thing that's going to be like, I better get my guns ready. | ||
| I better be ready whenever... | ||
| Because they've been listening to him forever and he's like, it's not time for offensive violence or whatever. | ||
| They're expecting him to eventually come to a point where he's like, now it's time. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And so when he says we're ramping up for the final collision, it's almost impossible not to think that that means we've got to take back the Republic. | ||
| Like, we've been trying to with the information war, but now the information war is no good because all these Chinese people are against us. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| It's dangerous. | ||
| Even with much less penetration into the market and stuff like that, that sort of rhetoric is still fucking gross and dangerous. | ||
| All I can say to that is... | ||
| He actually did play that as intro music one of these days. | ||
| And he's like, maybe we should call this The Final Countdown. | ||
| I thought he was going to call it The Final Collision. | ||
| And he was just, The Final Collision! | ||
| He hates that song, though, because it's by the band Europe. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And he's like, that band is trying to take away other bands' national sovereignty. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| That tracks. | ||
| I don't think he's wrong, though. | ||
| They have been going after Yes for 30 years now. | ||
| You should have said Berlin. | ||
| One of those actual, it's not a country, but still. | ||
| Air France? | ||
| The Orchestra Baobab? | ||
| What? | ||
| America? | ||
| Oh, of course! | ||
| That was obvious! | ||
| How did we miss that one? | ||
| Europe, the staunch enemies of the human league. | ||
| They're actually not ready to take on America. | ||
| They're just starting with Kansas. | ||
| That's their... | ||
| Well, they could have been starting with Chicago. | ||
| Maybe they already got Chicago and they moved up to Kansas. | ||
| Chicago, classically globalist band. | ||
| No non-globalist band would have that... | ||
| No Americana band would have that kind of feisty horn work. | ||
| Did you just say feisty hornwork? | ||
| I did. | ||
| Have you ever listened to 25 or 64? | ||
| A lot of feisty hornwork. | ||
| I have not heard hornwork be described as feisty before. | ||
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I like that. | |
| So it's hornwork that's looking for a fight. | ||
| Feisty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not looking for a fight. | ||
| It's more like it's a little wild. | ||
| A little, you know, it's a little crazy. | ||
| Does feisty mean looking for a fight? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah, it has a little bit. | ||
| It's taken on a different, it's a broader meaning. | ||
| Yeah, it has a bit more of a connotation to it than a definition, I suppose. | ||
| I see the horn work that I'm describing as being more playful and a little restless. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anyway, let's get off this. | ||
| So I... | ||
| Let's pull up the OED. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's get this settled once and for all. | ||
| These are the only things that I really thought were interesting that I listened to on the 9th. | ||
| And so I'm like, shit, I gotta listen to the 10th now. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| Because I gotta... | ||
| I mean, I have to find something. | ||
| That's not an episode. | ||
| No. | ||
| And granted, we could just cover over and over again him talking about the chai comms and shit like that, but... | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| What's the point? | ||
| Yeah, I feel like we nailed that. | ||
| So I listened to the 10th as much as I could. | ||
| I'll say that. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I didn't end the episode because I was like, you know, in the same way that a couple times in the past I've been like, I can't take this anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is gross or whatever. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It was more just like, I don't have the time for this. | ||
| I just listened to hours and hours of other shit. | ||
| I don't have the time. | ||
| I know where you're going with this, Alex. | ||
| I don't have the time. | ||
| And it was just so boring. | ||
| But there are a couple things that are worth mentioning. | ||
| There's a real serious trend in the period that I listen to that I think it worries me in much the same way that that final collision outro from this episode did. | ||
| I think there's stuff to be worried about. | ||
| But Alex starts our exploration of August 10th, 2018 with talking a little bit about David Hogg. | ||
| What? | ||
| By the way, there's more disinfo out there from CNET News and all of them. | ||
| I noticed that CNN, the web cops, the racketeers that spend all their time trying to get everybody deplatformed to shut down conservative, nationalist, pro-Trump speech ahead of the midterms. | ||
| I noticed yesterday they were doing reports on things out of context. | ||
| I said out about David Hogg and about Parkland. | ||
| And about other events. | ||
| And I just said, delete that stuff. | ||
| It's not even... | ||
| They're twisting what I said, but just to take the super high road, delete it. | ||
| The super high road. | ||
| That turns into Twitter finally took action and took down the evil tweets of Alex Jones. | ||
| David Hogg was wearing a literal armband and posing for it saluting with his fist up on the air calling for gun confiscation. | ||
| And people were calling that Nazi. | ||
| And I said, well, it sure looks like that, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| The left calls people Nazis all the time. | ||
| Generally when they hang out with Nazis. | ||
| Or when they are Nazis. | ||
| Yeah, those sort of things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex is trying to present this as a thing where CNN comes out with this article about all the times that he did, in fact, breach Twitter's policies. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And point out, oh, Twitter, you say that you would ban him if he broke your rules. | ||
| Here are all the times he broke your rules. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so his response on his show, instead of dealing with that, what he says is like... | ||
| Everyone's saying all this David Hogg stuff. | ||
| I was like, yeah, look, they're going to misinterpret that. | ||
| Just fucking take it down. | ||
| I'm going to take the super high road about this. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| You're scared. | ||
| You are fucking so scared that they're going to get rid of your Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, if they take him off Twitter, he's been effectively banished. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| He still has his site, and if what his site is doing is good and people want it, you don't need Facebook and Twitter. | ||
| You really don't. | ||
| Because if you have an audience of what he pretends is tens of millions of people... | ||
| He pretends it's two billion people. | ||
| Well, that's a whole other thing. | ||
| That was just one ad that he put. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He said it was a tenth of the world. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But even if you have millions or tens of millions of listeners, if what you're doing is quality and people will respond to it, then you don't need anything other than the platform which you're putting it out on, because word of mouth will naturally spread it. | ||
| And people will be like, oh my god, this is really awesome, and they'll tell their friends about it. | ||
| There's a natural growth to things that are decent, and you don't necessarily need those platforms. | ||
| And so what he's doing does need those platforms, though, because it's based on immediacy, it's based on deceit, it's based on getting it. | ||
| What he does is the journalistic equivalent of a smash-and-grab robbery, because by the time the truth is all sort of discussed, he's already come up with an inflammatory narrative about it. | ||
| And that is just going to resonate with people who listen to him. | ||
| The common sense, calm down kind of sense is not going to matter. | ||
| He needs the immediacy of social networks like Twitter and Facebook in order to get people riled up with his immediate narrative. | ||
| And if he doesn't do that, then people will listen to his show a day later and his narratives will already be soiled. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The other thing that he needs is the backlash. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And if people aren't paying attention, if his voice isn't amplified enough for, you know, Media Matters or CNN or somebody to be like, Alex Jones said buh, then he doesn't have the reactionary elements either. | ||
| And that's actually really interesting because I think that a lot of those places are going to... | ||
| I'm not sure if they have already, but they're going to get to the point. | ||
| Shudder. | ||
| They're going to get to the point where they're like, we don't care about covering Alex anymore. | ||
| Too small. | ||
| And Alex is already preemptively creating a narrative about that. | ||
| He's saying, now that they've taken me down, what they're going to do is start going after Steven Crowder, who is a guy... | ||
| Yeah, I'm fine with that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know who he is, but I'm fine with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that's the way of justifying why no one cares to talk about him anymore. | ||
| It's like, oh, yeah, they're done with me. | ||
| Now they're moving on to their next hit piece. | ||
| Hit target. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| That's why they don't talk about us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I lost my train of thought. | ||
| We need to start some shit with a conservative blog and then get our own reactionary. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what we gotta do. | ||
| Let's try and troll the blaze. | ||
| Yeah, let's get him. | ||
| Let's get Glenn Beck after us. | ||
| And then we can reach rapprochement afterwards. | ||
| I'm sick of him not getting after us. | ||
| He could cry on our show in a sweater. | ||
| It would be great. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would he wear a tie underneath the sweater? | ||
| He might wear a tie, but I'll tell you what, he's not going to wear an armband, because that's what people like David Hogg wear. | ||
| Oh, Nazis. | ||
| Who call other people Nazis. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| That's their trick. | ||
| So, Jordan, did you know that Nazis are not the only people who ever used an armband as an accessory or to make a statement? | ||
| In fact, it's one of the most common things ever. | ||
| Football players commonly wear branded armbands to fulfill sponsorship deals that they couldn't otherwise, because they're not allowed to alter their jerseys. | ||
| In soccer, they often use armbands. | ||
| To denote who the team captain is. | ||
| Seems Nazi-like. | ||
| Going back to as far as the late 1700s, the wearing of a black armband has been a symbol of mourning, which I think is a very easy leap to make, and you can make a strong argument that David Hogg and his fellow students were deeply in mourning. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| You know, the Nazis used to mourn. | ||
| Oh yeah, they did. | ||
| Further, there's a rich history of black armbands also being used as a sign of protest. | ||
| For example, on December 16, 1965, John Hinker, 15 years old, Mary Beth Hinker, 13 years old, and Christopher Eckhart, 16 years old, wore black armbands to school to symbolize their opposition to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. | ||
| They got suspended and then sued the school, leading to Tinker v. | ||
| Des Moines Independent Community School District 393, which resulted in the Supreme Court deciding that the school violated the students' free speech by suspending them for wearing their armbands. | ||
| You could also make a really strong argument that David Hogg and the fellow students wearing armbands, particularly black armbands, might be hearkening back to this sort of history. | ||
| Student activism, mourning, all of those things come into play. | ||
| All together, where a black armband is almost the perfect thing for David Hogg to be wearing. | ||
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Right. | |
| Now further, there's a famous expression coined by historian Geoffrey Blaney that is, quote, the black armband view of history, which refers to views of history that suggest that, quote, much of pre-multicultural Australian history had been a disgrace, largely relating to the horrible treatment of minorities, namely the aborigines. | ||
| Can't think of any parallels. | ||
| So I'm just saying that there's a lot of black armband. | ||
| Bands throughout history. | ||
| Nazis used to have students too, Dan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Did any of them... | ||
| Some probably protested. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| They didn't get suspended though. | ||
| They probably got killed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They probably murdered. | ||
| The biggest issue I have is all of this makes perfect sense if you just take a little bit of time to look at it. | ||
| Just take a little time. | ||
| What is the history of a black armband? | ||
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Is it always the Waffen-SS? | |
| It's only the Nazi youth, right? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's really not. | ||
| There's a lot of history to black armbands about student activism and mourning, which are very relevant. | ||
| And then on top of that, Alex, when the other side is calling people Nazis, I do agree that sometimes it's a little bit too capriciously thrown around, but I don't remember who made this argument. | ||
| Godwin. | ||
| It's probably a very famous argument, but if you are hanging out with a Nazi, you're a Nazi. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That just sort of like, if you are in a group of people and a Nazi is there and they aren't thrown out, you are now in a group of Nazis. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| If you tolerate Nazis, you are a Nazi, you son of a bitch. | ||
| So let's broaden that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What party is totally cool with Nazis and elected one of them to the White House? | ||
| Boy. | ||
| If you are, let's say, a member of a certain political party, and you go to a rally put together by, let's call it, the leader of the free world, and he espouses Nazi beliefs, and his dad is a Nazi, and his grandfather is a Nazi, it's entirely possible, and in fact probable, that if you turn and look around... | ||
| One out of every eight people is going to be a Nazi. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that kind of makes all of you Nazis, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's almost like we have a Nazi party. | ||
| Would you call them the right? | ||
| You could call them the right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| At least they're not socialists. | ||
| Amen, brother. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex has a plan for what he's going to do in order to get his own version of rapprochement. | ||
| I gotta stop using that word. | ||
| You love using that word, though. | ||
| It's a fun word. | ||
| You love it. | ||
| You should go back to detente. | ||
| I would prefer that. | ||
| Well, it's different, though, because he wants something. | ||
| You know, detente is just sort of like a calming of the struggle. | ||
| Yeah, it's an armistice. | ||
| Yes, where rapprochement is where you give and get. | ||
| It's an ingredient. | ||
| You give and give. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it's a compromise. | ||
| And Alex thinks that he's going to get something out of this next plan. | ||
| And the only thing he's going to get out of it is probably me seeing some fucking awesome shit on C-SPAN. | ||
| So, I have... | ||
| I'm going to read this statement when we come back from break. | ||
| I'm going to read it when we come back from break. | ||
| My statement, calling for hearings in Congress, and I demand respectfully that I be able to be at those hearings and be able to lay out what's really happened because I've been demonized and I've been lied about and they've done all these horrible things that I need to be able to sit there as an American, as my birthright, and do that. | ||
| Is that your birthright? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| But, man, I would love it. | ||
| This is never going to happen. | ||
| But I would love it if they ended up having congressional hearings. | ||
| You must watch TV for C-SPAN. | ||
| Can you imagine what you would see? | ||
| You would have conservative Republican senators, Congress people, who are like, what do we do? | ||
| Because their default position should probably be, we've got to try and help him. | ||
| Excuse me, Mr. Jones? | ||
| Could you give at least some differences between you and Nazi propagandist Goebbels? | ||
| I have a beard now. | ||
| Okay, well there we go. | ||
| I think we can end this hearing, right everybody? | ||
| Substantive difference. | ||
| Can we end this hearing? | ||
| Did Goebbels ever have a victory beard? | ||
| Did Goebbels sell supplements? | ||
| Good point. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| Good point, Alex. | ||
| Goebbels was not necessarily as economically invested in his propaganda as you are. | ||
| I'm not sure that I fully articulated what I mean, but I think it would be fascinating to see if Alex Jones crosses the line that which they will defend. | ||
| You know, like, a lot of the... | ||
| Republicans in Congress are total shitheads, and they've just abdicated any responsibility in terms of doing their job. | ||
| Oh, Devin Nunez even gave up the game. | ||
| He was like, the only reason that we need to control the House is because the president should be impeached, and we're the only ones stopping that from happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good work, dude. | ||
| And then you have people like Jim Jordan, who Alex idolizes. | ||
| And you have people like Matt Gaetz, who went on Alex's show and then was like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that. | ||
| That was a mistake. | ||
| I wouldn't go back on that show. | ||
| But Alex is still like, you know, he still thinks that's an in for him. | ||
| So you have these Republican congresspeople, like, would they go to bat for him? | ||
| Are they that craven? | ||
| I want to know that. | ||
| So I do want this congressional hearing to happen. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Because I think it would be such a zoo. | ||
| And we're past the Mendoza line in terms of being a country anymore. | ||
| Oh, no, it's gone. | ||
| So, like, why not do that? | ||
| Let Alex Jones go to Congress. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It can only hurt him. | ||
| I want him to have his Mr. Smith goes to Washington moment. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| I want him to blame the entire system and say that it's entirely broken and really just go for it, thinking that he will never actually be kicked out of it. | ||
| He's going to be like... | ||
| Well, the rules say that I get to talk as long as I want, right? | ||
| That's my birthright. | ||
| He's going to turn into that guy with the bolo tie, the sovereign citizen. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's what he's going to do. | ||
| If they walk around and they're leaving, he's like, I control Congress now! | ||
| I have the gavel! | ||
| They have abdicated the courtroom. | ||
| I run. | ||
| I am now vice president. | ||
| I would bet anything that his opening statement would be, The speech from Network. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It would just be just glory, glory speeching up there. | ||
| It would be hilarious. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| I know that my default position is always like, don't give him more attention than he deserves unless it's in the right, proper, controlled context. | ||
| I believe Congress is the right, proper, controlled context. | ||
| Well, because there would be so many times that all of those people have staff. | ||
| And they could do the research required in order to get the gotcha questions where it's like, Alex, you did say this. | ||
| Well! | ||
| He'd be trapped in his web of lies, and it'd be so embarrassing. | ||
| I would love it. | ||
| Alex, we're going to play some tapes for you. | ||
| No! | ||
| And then he runs away. | ||
| Wait, is this my custody here? | ||
| Because that's not allowed there. | ||
| Treat me with kid gloves. | ||
| I can't wait for the Info Rewards website to go down, but he's still hosting the domain for a while. | ||
| And it just has a blank page that says, Call Larry Nichols on it. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| So good. | ||
| I just recently saw Larry Nichols on another web show. | ||
| I think Alex thinks that I can't talk to him. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| He's not on his show. | ||
| Like, I haven't seen him at all. | ||
| But I saw him on another show, and he sounds very different on another show. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is he okay now? | ||
| No, I don't mean that way. | ||
| He still sounds like an old weirdo. | ||
| But, like, his rhetoric is very different. | ||
| I saw him on another show, and he was not nearly the same, like, they're gonna take down Trump. | ||
| He was clearly doing a character or acting that way to... | ||
| Be supplicating to Alex's rhetoric. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It was interesting to see, like, a propagandist I only know from Alex's world in another context, like someone else's show, and see how, like, oh, they get it. | ||
| They get it. | ||
| They know, like... | ||
| They're all playing the game. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| But you know who the enemy of the American people is? | ||
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Kevin? | |
| CNN! | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| CNN. | ||
| And they're forced down your throat. | ||
| They are. | ||
| They are. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| With their TV network that they own and broadcast from. | ||
| They're forced down your fucking throat. | ||
| And have broadcast from since the 60s. | ||
| Well, Alex might make a decent point here. | ||
| And let's let him speak his piece. | ||
| We're number one. | ||
| We call DAP. | ||
| And they're a joke. | ||
| And all their billions of dollars and all the money they get from Gulf state dictators and communist China and all the things they've done, people can't stand them. | ||
| They have to pay to be on at airports and pay to be on in bars. | ||
| Just really funny here, Alex earlier in the show talked about how he had to pay to be on the app store. | ||
| I know! | ||
| So like, alright, whatever. | ||
| You pay to have your app listed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So go fuck off with that logic. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| And pay to be on everywhere. | ||
| Very offensive. | ||
| I was in the Trump Hotel, beautiful, nice hotel, and the old post office there in D.C. a few months ago. | ||
| And there was CNN on, on the big television over the bar. | ||
| I was going to throw up. | ||
| I just can't get away from it. | ||
| It's all force-fed. | ||
| Force-fed. | ||
| You know what's really fun about that? | ||
| There's a look in his face where he brings up the example that he has of seeing CNN somewhere, and it happens to be the Trump Hotel. | ||
| So he's scrambling in his mind to be like, I can't shit on the Trump Hotel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I gotta love this guy. | ||
| And they don't take money from CNN. | ||
| Or I better not insinuate that they do, which he accidentally is doing there. | ||
| Pretty much exactly. | ||
| Or it's Trump's hotel. | ||
| He could play whatever the fuck he wants there. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| Apparently chooses CNN because it's the most palatable news. | ||
| Better than fuck. | ||
| It's far less inflammatory. | ||
| Yeah, if you want some run-of-the-mill shit, that's probably what you're gonna choose. | ||
| I don't know if that's based on a contract, but if it is, then Trump's making money off that. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| So I love that that's his example that he comes up with, man. | ||
| Do better. | ||
| Do better. | ||
| That's so bad. | ||
| That's shit broadcasting, bro. | ||
| Just say the gym! | ||
| Just say the gym! | ||
| Say it anywhere! | ||
| You're local like that. | ||
| You could have said the Cheesecake Factory! | ||
| Could have. | ||
| Could have said a bar you were at. | ||
| Could say a restaurant. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| He chose the Trump Hotel. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| The one thing that came to his mind. | ||
| What a fucking idiot. | ||
| He's not great on the spot. | ||
| I'm not going to lie to you. | ||
| The one thing where your guy could change that is your example. | ||
| With an email. | ||
| It wouldn't even take long. | ||
| He could even tweet at his own hotel. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| No more CNN in my hotel. | ||
| Stop playing CNN and Trump Tower. | ||
| And they would. | ||
| And it's done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Problem solved. | ||
| And he said a few months ago, so it's after Trump is already saying that they're the enemy of the American people. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| It's a fucking joke. | ||
| What an idiot. | ||
| These people are all fucking jokes. | ||
| And so are we because of them. | ||
| One thing that's not a joke, bro. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Kevin? | ||
| Outrage in the streets. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's a... | ||
| Antifa is out there hitting people with stuff. | ||
| Oh, Antifa? | ||
| They are definitely responsible for the most recent murder of a... | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| At protests, the murders and the violence were more from the... | ||
| The Nazis. | ||
| Or that one guy who just fired a shot into the ether. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Just out of nowhere and pretended he didn't. | ||
| Antifa. | ||
| Antifa. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Oh, no, he wasn't Antifa? | ||
| Or a based stick man who's only famous because he snuck sticks into protests and hit people with them. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That wasn't Antifa. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh. | ||
| The guys wearing riot gear who specifically targeted the anti-Antifa protesters and left the white supremacists to their own devices. | ||
| They were cops. | ||
| Oh, no, they weren't Antifa, were they? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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No, they were the Yeah, yeah. | |
| All that stuff is, you know... | ||
| That's a consideration, but Alex has documents. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| The U.S. Capitol ramping up security, head of white nationalist rallies, and they've got the one-year anniversary of Charlottesville coming up where the police corralled the alt-right people right into the antifa so the explosion could happen. | ||
| And by Soros funding that, he's partially to blame for the poor woman that died. | ||
| That turned into them spinning it and saying, when I said the CIA staged it. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And that some photographer staged it when that's not what I said. | ||
| They just twisted that and sued me for that. | ||
| And everybody knows that in Portland and in San Francisco and in Charlottesville and in Maryland, the police have stood down. | ||
| We even have the documents in Maryland. | ||
| In Baltimore, where the Antifa was working with them and even had designated areas they were allowed to protest and engage in violence. | ||
| And even throw things at police as part of an attempt to escalate the general public into rioting to bring in a civil emergency for Obama. | ||
| But the plan failed. | ||
| Go to Infowars.com or search engine it. | ||
| 2015 plan to bring in martial law for Obama. | ||
| Documents show 2015 plan to bring in civil emergency and martial law in Maryland. | ||
| Read the documents for yourself, and that's why they want to shut down. | ||
| I've read the documents. | ||
| These are the fake ones you found on 4chan. | ||
| You are just reporting all of this, that entire... | ||
| Last minute and a half is all him just rambling and expounding and expanding what he's trying to say based on those fake contracts that we clowned on for about half an hour. | ||
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Yep. | |
| The nonsense idea that anyone would make a contract for that bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, no, of course. | ||
| You want to sign your name to that. | ||
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Ridiculous. | |
| No, it makes perfect sense. | ||
| So fucking stupid and fake. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| Any right-thinking person would look at them. | ||
| Maybe try and figure out where did these come from? | ||
| What's the backstory of these? | ||
| Start to smell a little bit. | ||
| Oh, that smells like bullshit. | ||
| Oh, this is one of those classic internet hoaxes. | ||
| Grade A bullshit. | ||
| And Alex is now, I mean, he has for a long time, but he's still reporting it as truth. | ||
| He's reporting it as real, that there are contracts between Soros-connected organizations at Antifa in order to create martial law. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I mean, I don't... | ||
| We've already talked about this. | ||
| There's no reason to dissect it further. | ||
| But it's nice. | ||
| It's nice to know this much. | ||
| You hear this and you're like, Ah, that's what you're talking about. | ||
| You stupid fuck. | ||
| You stupid asshole. | ||
| To address one point of what he said, which is that the cops were funneling the white supremacists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's Millie Weaver's narrative. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they're funneling them to make the explosions happen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That then suggests that the cops know that one side... | ||
| Is going to murder the other side. | ||
| And history has shown that one did. | ||
| And they know which side. | ||
| So even then... | ||
| What he's implying is that his people are murderers and they were being pushed towards the Antifa specifically to commit the crimes that they wanted to commit in the first place. | ||
| Well, now Alex would argue that they would not have committed those murders if Antifa hadn't been so goddamn annoying or something like that, like agitating them to the point of committing a murder. | ||
| I don't know if that's still okay. | ||
| It's not, but it works. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that that's not a defense in court. | ||
| It's like, oh, they didn't believe the same thing I do! | ||
| It works for him. | ||
| And I've watched the videos that Millie Weavers put out and I've seen the arguments that are made about the police intentionally corralling people. | ||
| I mean, I wasn't there, so I don't think that I have the right to make a definitive statement or anything like that. | ||
| It would be foolish of me. | ||
| But based on the evidence that I've seen, I don't buy it. | ||
| I don't buy that narrative. | ||
| I know that... | ||
| From everything I know about these groups, somebody would have found the other one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, whether it's Antifa finding the fascists and the Nazis, or the Nazis finding them, it would have ended up happening at some point, and if they want to brawl, they're going to brawl. | ||
| And one side wants to murder, and the other side doesn't want to murder. | ||
| One wants to stop people from... | ||
| What is anti the part that murders people? | ||
| But this is where it gets all twisted with Alex and his world, is that they label themselves as anti-fascists, but that's because they're fascists. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And these people are being called fascists, like the Nazis and the legitimate Nazi groups that are there. | ||
| They're being labeled that because they're actually anti-fascism. | ||
| They're anti-the fascism of the anti-fascism groups. | ||
| But it's so frustrating because that's what he does all the time! | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| Also, the other thing that you could say... | ||
| If you were going to say that, it's not that the cops were funneling them towards the Antifa in order to cause an explosion. | ||
| It's because the cops, as we now know, are essentially an arm of the white nationalist movement. | ||
| So maybe they were funneling them towards them so the cops didn't have to murder anybody. | ||
| And they could get them to do their dirty work for them. | ||
| Because as we know, the cops love murdering people. | ||
| Let Identity Europa be on the hook for this one instead of us. | ||
| We don't want to get our... | ||
| No more video of cops beating up unarmed black people for no reason. | ||
| That's going to cut into our overtime. | ||
| Let's let this guy with the stupid shield do it for us. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, I don't know. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex does not understand what's happening to him, and he unfortunately sort of conflates it with other issues. | ||
| This, to me, is real strong evidence of just a dumb-dumb. | ||
| This is just very dumb. | ||
| Not only is CNN a propped-up, failed, anti-free-speech, anti-American engine of lies that murder the truth, they're now out murdering free speech and murdering other people's ideas and engaged in classic racketeering like the brown shirts in Nazi Germany, working in concert to go around to private companies and try to have us deplatformed from basic services. | ||
| But you better bake that gay cake. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I don't get... | ||
| My electricity next, I guess. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Sure! | ||
| That tracks! | ||
| In that last couple minutes, he just disgracefully combined so many different issues. | ||
| In terms of what's going on. | ||
| The reason with the cake is because of protected classes. | ||
| That's a whole different thing. | ||
| If you want to argue against the Civil Rights Act, that is in your libertarian right to do. | ||
| You are very welcome to do that, but you're also going to have to say that black people should not be allowed places. | ||
| Because if you want to get rid of protected classes, you are against the Civil Rights Act. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Libertarians should be. | ||
| But if they want to make that argument... | ||
| My religion does not... | ||
| Acknowledge that gay people are people. | ||
| And as I'm sure you know, there's a difference between gay people and black people because obviously my religion has never supported the slavery. | ||
| Oh, they did, didn't they? | ||
| But it also doesn't matter what your religion necessarily believes. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| It's about the person. | ||
| The person whose rights are either being acknowledged or violated. | ||
| So then beyond that, the idea that like, oh, now my electricity is going to be shut off. | ||
| No, and actually you have some liberals to thank for that. | ||
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You have a very progressive worldview. | |
| Because the capitalists have shut off electricity and they have murdered people because of it. | ||
| Alex, if you get your druthers, your electricity will be shut off. | ||
| You will be in a Jeopardy situation like that. | ||
| And you will freeze to death like multiple old women have in the past. | ||
| And as Alex has complained about in the past, while never wrestling with the why is that a problem? | ||
| So to me this is so crazy because all it is is he's being punished for his behavior in a media space. | ||
| And he's comparing it to the gay cake situation, which the cake wasn't gay. | ||
| But also... | ||
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That does sound like the one thing that he said. | |
| I imagine that winding up on... | ||
| By the way, those were my stand-up chops coming back. | ||
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Perfect. | |
| Perfect. | ||
| I imagine that being a phrase on the Great British Bake Off. | ||
| Hey, you better bake that gay cake. | ||
| Well, that just means happy to them. | ||
| And fag means cigarette. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So, conflating that with his situation and then further conflating it with the idea of utility monopolies, it's crazy to me. | ||
| It's straight up crazy. | ||
| And I know that at the beginning of the show, I said that if he gets off Twitter, he's fucked in terms of his ability to reach people. | ||
| But I don't think that is because he does... | ||
| There is a monopoly of the public space on Facebook and Twitter and stuff like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't believe that that's relevant to the question at all. | ||
| He's fucked because he needs those and he is not entitled to have them. | ||
| He needs them because of what he does. | ||
| He's almost making the argument that they're a public utility and they should be regulated. | ||
| He does make that argument. | ||
| But then what is he doing? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| How is he able to then say that they should be regulated? | ||
| His entire position is if it is a public utility. | ||
| We've talked about that before. | ||
| He hates monopolies and stuff like that. | ||
| So he believes that they have a monopoly over the public space and public discourse. | ||
| Yeah, but he hates regulation. | ||
| Sure, but regulation... | ||
| He hates regulation in terms of, like, don't tell farmers what to do or whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he doesn't mind regulation in terms of monopoly capitalism. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it is a weird line to draw, but it does bear mentioning. | ||
| The only reason I bring this up is because even that said, which I agree with him, monopolies are terrible, I don't think they have a monopoly. | ||
| We've had that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've had this discussion over and over again. | ||
| We have come to rapprochement with it. | ||
| If you do believe that, good for you, that's your business. | ||
| That means something about you. | ||
| That is not about Twitter or Facebook. | ||
| You don't have either, really. | ||
| No, I got rid of them. | ||
| I have... | ||
| I'm on Facebook only for the group. | ||
| Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. | ||
| And if I disappeared from that, that would still exist and it would be whatever. | ||
| But it doesn't help that much. | ||
| I haven't posted on Facebook in maybe a year. | ||
| Maybe a year I haven't posted on Facebook. | ||
| I haven't looked at anybody else's posts. | ||
| What did you post on Facebook? | ||
| I think the last time we had a live show in Chicago, I posted that. | ||
| Or maybe when we had a live show in Texas. | ||
| So that was a couple months ago. | ||
| I think I might have posted something like, hey, if you're in Texas, but even that, I'm like, eight people will see this? | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| I haven't posted on our Twitter or my Twitter in for fucking ever. | ||
| We haven't reached anybody with that stuff. | ||
| You're like, I don't think you need it necessarily. | ||
| You do something and people like it or they don't. | ||
| If it works for us, it would work for Alex. | ||
| Our numbers are going very high up. | ||
| We're on equal playing field at this point, right? | ||
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We have podcasts. | |
| We're both tied, except we still have YouTube videos up. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They're old, but they're up. | ||
| It's punching upwards still for us to attack Alex. | ||
| For a period of time. | ||
| And it's slowly punching on a level playing field. | ||
| So, all that stuff about regulation aside, I don't know if we... | ||
| Did we get to the bottom of that? | ||
| Well, what was the bottom of that? | ||
| Well, the only thing I'm sort of concerned about is I feel like you were a little confused that Alex would be for utility monopolies. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, we got to the bottom of that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we enter a period of this show that I think is profoundly fucked up and dangerous. | ||
| I'll just say it. | ||
| I think this is dangerous. | ||
| Burn down, Cheesecake Factories! | ||
| He loves cheesecake factories. | ||
| Not if there are Muslims in there. | ||
| You don't want to lose the factory for the Muslims, you know? | ||
| Don't lose the baby with the bathwater, as they say. | ||
| No, it's worse than that. | ||
| And we'll get into it in this next clip. | ||
| And here's the big enchilada. | ||
| When we come back, I'm going to say it. | ||
| I should have started the show with this. | ||
| This is the big, big, big issue that hit me so hard last week and hit me again this morning when I was really cogitating and thinking. | ||
| Word of a day, calendar. | ||
| Bees. | ||
| Cogitating. | ||
| Cogitating. | ||
| Thinking deeply about this, they're going to make their move on Trump the next three months. | ||
| They're making their move on free speech now. | ||
| This is unprecedented criminality that we're witnessing, and that signifies that they are getting ready to make their move in a big way. | ||
| Now, some of the things you can do to counter them, Infowars.com. | ||
| Nice! | ||
| Nice! | ||
| Some of the things you can counter them, buy our products. | ||
| And then they won't make their move on Trump. | ||
| I'll be honest, I think that there's still some fun stuff to discuss in this, but my response to Alex since he's been kicked off the air is like a sleepy jack-off motion. | ||
| Just kind of like, who cares? | ||
| I know what you're doing here, you son of a bitch. | ||
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Come on. | |
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I know you're just trying to find your way to make people outraged and agitated while you cogitate ways to agitate. | ||
| Minus one. | ||
| They're going to let me get away with that. | ||
| I was on the fence for a little bit, and then I just pulled the trigger. | ||
| It's all just weaving to a plug, and now the ad pivots are so much more robust because getting people to Infowars.com is so much more important. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| So when he says that they're going to take out the president in the next three months, him just saying Infowars.com, that's the equivalent of back in the day when he'd be like, we got great supplements. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he needs people to go to Infowars.com. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They've got nowhere else to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't go to... | ||
| You can share Infowars articles on Facebook. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You can do that. | ||
| He just can't have his own stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you can post their videos on YouTube if you do it sneaky. | ||
| There's still tons of stuff you can find. | ||
| But, man, it is a huge loss for me. | ||
| Not so much the Alex Jones channel. | ||
| But that Ron Gibson channel is a huge loss for me. | ||
| I wonder how he's doing. | ||
| I hope he's okay. | ||
| But the reason is because he would put out them without the commercials. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was so much less painful to go through this when the commercials were cut out. | ||
| Because in present day, there's no diamond gusset. | ||
| There's no... | ||
| Oh, by the way, shout out. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| I can't remember who it was. | ||
| Someone posted a picture on the Facebook group. | ||
| Somebody actually wearing Diamond Gosset jeans? | ||
| He saw someone in the wild in a Diamond Gosset. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Pretty cool. | ||
| But there's no ads like that now. | ||
| It's all just like Alex propaganda pieces, like little tiny minute long clips. | ||
| They're coming for Trump. | ||
| Buy our stuff. | ||
| But also, they find the times that Trump uses English properly and really cut those segments out. | ||
| That takes a lot of editing. | ||
| Yeah, but you can do it if you're that motivated. | ||
| And so they do that. | ||
| It is what it is, but it's fucking awful. | ||
| And then also, the special reports are really hard to find now. | ||
| Whereas Ron Gibson would always post the special reports, or Alex would post them on his channel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, I don't even know where to... | ||
| The fuck to find any of that? | ||
| Because he doesn't put them on Infowars.com, which is... | ||
| Well, he might, but they're all labeled January 1st, 1970, so I don't know what the fuck to do with any of that. | ||
| Find out what happened on January 1st, 1970! | ||
| I might have to jump into that. | ||
| How does he not have a guy who knows what a podcast is? | ||
| Well, I think Kurt Nimmo was one of his web guys, and then he quit a couple years ago. | ||
| Right, of course. | ||
| A year and a half ago or so. | ||
| And he can't ask his dad, because his dad is head of HR. | ||
| He can't wear two hats? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| But I think that he probably has a real brain trust problem. | ||
| You know, I think that... | ||
| I can't imagine why. | ||
| Well, I think that even if you're talented in a technical field, you probably wouldn't choose to work for him. | ||
| No. | ||
| Even if the salary is okay, you'd probably be like... | ||
| Yeah, I'll go somewhere else. | ||
| I can get a little less working somewhere else and not work with you. | ||
| And he can't, like, lean on one of his listeners to be, like, an intern or something like that, because they don't know how to do any of that shit. | ||
| Which is why the podcast is going to fail miserably, because, again, his listeners are dumb. | ||
| You're mostly up to true believers and then hoping some of them are talented and will accept whatever salary you may pay them. | ||
| And that's, I mean, that's a bad business model, but enjoy. | ||
| Anyway, earlier I told you, Jordan, that InfoWars is on Twitter still for one reason and one reason only. | ||
| And that Alex says. | ||
| I'm not sure if this is true, but this is what he says. | ||
| You know why InfoWars is still on Twitter? | ||
| With banned everywhere else? | ||
| By Apple, by Google, by Facebook, by Spotify, by Stitcher, by WebChimp, by Discussion. | ||
| They even have the Democrats going after our servers, trying to file false reports on those to get our servers taken down. | ||
| That's fucking hilarious. | ||
| He doesn't own his own servers. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| He doesn't own his own servers. | ||
| He wouldn't be worried about it. | ||
| He wouldn't be worried. | ||
| I think he's trying to say that they're like, are they trying to... | ||
| Oh, he's not saying that they're trying to hack his servers. | ||
| No, he's saying that they want us to be taken down from our servers. | ||
| That implies very heavily that... | ||
| He's vulnerable there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you don't own your own servers, Alex, you are a fucking idiot. | ||
| Who owns the servers? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We've got to find out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, probably someone's figured it out and has sent some emails. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it is fucking GoDaddy. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| That'd be hilarious. | ||
| You go down any time. | ||
| That's what's happening in America right now. | ||
| The only reason we're still on Twitter is because of this tweet from the president. | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| Shadow banning prominent Republicans. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| We will look into this discriminatory and illegal practice at once. | ||
| Many complaints. | ||
| I have a number of thoughts about this. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's disappointing that that's the president? | ||
| That was one of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was lower on my list, though, than my other thoughts. | ||
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What's that? | |
| One of them is that, like, uh... | ||
| If all these other places Alex says was engaging in the exact same behavior, places like Facebook, and he's kicked off that, there's no consequences from the president that's come since. | ||
| So Twitter clearly should get the message that it doesn't really matter that much. | ||
| Facebook hasn't had some sort of punitive thing from the president happen. | ||
| We're probably in the clear. | ||
| Then the second thing, which I think is maybe the biggest issue of them all, is the idea that Alex is pitching. | ||
| That the only reason he's still on Twitter is because the President of the United States threatened them with a conspiracy theory that he believes in. | ||
| Now, the conspiracy part, we'll leave that aside for a second. | ||
| What's fascism, Jordan? | ||
| Dan, I don't know anymore. | ||
| One of the big definitions is a combination of corporate and state power. | ||
| So the idea that Twitter is kowtowing to a threat from the president to do something that they should fucking do, which Alex is almost kind of tacitly admitting there. | ||
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It's like, well, otherwise we would fucking be gone if it wasn't for Trump. | |
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Giving some sort of weird threat on the platform about this shadow ban conspiracy that's a whole load of horse shit. | ||
| Then, like, that is Alex saying that we are, the case is cool, man. | ||
| This is cool. | ||
| I love the idea of corporations bending to the will of the executive. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Patriots. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| Patriot fascism is fine, Dan. | ||
| There's no way to splice that clip that makes it okay. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That is so bad. | ||
| And it would be bad, too, if it was a Democratic president. | ||
| It would be bad in any circumstance. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably not good. | ||
| It's probably not good for the president to make threats to a business and then force them to do things that he wants. | ||
| My theory is that the reason that he is not kicked off Twitter is because of Trump, but not because of, like, anything that Trump... | ||
| Trump interceding? | ||
| No, not because of that, but because if they kick Alex Jones off for violating their whatever policy, then people are going to be like, okay, so you did that. | ||
| You know the president has violated your policies many, many times. | ||
| And this is what I've been saying since the jump, in terms of, like, the... | ||
| I support Alex staying on things, and even stuff he got kicked off of. | ||
| I'm not saying I support him. | ||
| I'm glad he's gone. | ||
| But in terms of what I would advocate for, I would say it's easier to leave him on and deal with him a different way than it is to kick him off and then have to abide by those rules. | ||
| Because you're right. | ||
| The president is way out of line by the rules. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Just from the threatening world leaders' standpoint. | ||
| Yeah, we're in a better place if Trump gets kicked off Twitter. | ||
| Well, maybe not, because that might force his hand in him to actually hit a button or something. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| But, like, yeah, you put yourself in a position as a social media operation where you do this, now you have an expectation that you should live up to it. | ||
| I think that might be what Jack is doing. | ||
| He's doing it terribly. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| But I think that might be better. | ||
| I haven't heard this from Facebook, though. | ||
| What, to have rules and then pretend that you have rules and then never enforce them? | ||
| It's purely like an advertising thing. | ||
| Well, you should... | ||
| I mean, that's pretty clear. | ||
| But you should also maybe just be straight up about it because you are... | ||
| It's a private company. | ||
| They'd be totally in their rights to do this. | ||
| We will judge based on who matters. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They could put that into the rules, and it would be okay for them to do that. | ||
| They could say, hey, some people, they say fucked up stuff, but we can't kick them off. | ||
| That's just part of the rules. | ||
| That would be fine. | ||
| That's a weird rule. | ||
| It wouldn't look bad. | ||
| It's elitist. | ||
| That is a little bit like my idea for the Constitution, where we add dot, dot, dot, accept Nazis to everything, though. | ||
| Well, but he would be the same thing. | ||
| Like, everyone's speech, we will judge it, dot dot dot, except Nazis. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But, like, that to me is, that I think, I think that there's probably more to this than I'm even, like, getting into. | ||
| I think a lot of it is cowardly damage control. | ||
| You know, like, there's a lot of... | ||
| You see over and over and over again people who have, like, tried to report people for threatening violence against them and they're like, this is not against our policies. | ||
| And we've seen over and over again people who made jokes who are kicked off Twitter for a week. | ||
| And generally speaking, it's threats against women aren't taken seriously and women making jokes get them kicked off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So strange how that works. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's a whole other issue. | ||
| That's a side issue that has nothing to do with Alex that I would love to talk about more another day. | ||
| But in terms of this, the real solution is just fucking be straight up about your rules. | ||
| Just make your rules. | ||
| If you are making us a lot of money, we don't care what you say. | ||
| If you're someone who's using this service for free, we might have to cut liability. | ||
| You know, you might be a danger to our profit margin, and we're gonna kick you off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is fine. | ||
| Which is, of course, why they leave Trump and Alex Jones and shit on, is because every time those media matters or CNN quote the president, they're always like, the president tweeted. | ||
| And Twitter's like, fuck yeah, we get another free advertisement. | ||
| Buzz marketing. | ||
| Every single time. | ||
| The president is tweeting. | ||
| That's how he's communicating. | ||
| Everybody needs to be on Twitter, otherwise they're not going to know. | ||
| You get rid of a lot of those people, too, especially Trump. | ||
| You diminish the effect to which Twitter is changing the world, too, and shaping the world through the platform. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I don't think that they want to get rid of that. | ||
| I think they should. | ||
| I think it's dangerous. | ||
| I think it's negative. | ||
| But it's also their right to keep it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're evil. | ||
| They're a corporation. | ||
| But Monsanto is apparently still allowed to exist. | ||
| So there we go. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You come into this weird place where it's like, if you don't want to really just have the conversation about how everything, not everything, but a lot of shit should be regulated, then it's pointless. | ||
| Why struggle against it? | ||
| And Alex, why struggle in the position you're in? | ||
| You're stupid. | ||
| He is stupid. | ||
| There's really no bones about it. | ||
| This is dumb. | ||
| And this isn't even the right way to go about his situation here. | ||
| As you were saying, if you put together something that people want to listen to... | ||
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Yep. | |
| People will listen to it. | ||
| People will find it. | ||
| And they will share it. | ||
| I know it's not a magical equation. | ||
| And he's making bad episodes. | ||
| Bad. | ||
| Bad. | ||
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He's a real bad. | |
| This is when you've got to step up your game. | ||
| This is when you've got to make your show fucking appointment listening. | ||
| But I think a lot of his regulars probably don't want to come on anymore because he's off all the networks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not nearly as big a platform for them to go on. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So I think that there's some people who might be jumping ship. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know that to be sure. | ||
| But I know that he has, as one of his guests, a hero of Benghazi on, and it's not Tonto Speranto. | ||
| It's a different hero of Benghazi. | ||
| For years, we've only had Tonto as the hero of Benghazi. | ||
| So we've got another guy now, I guess a fill-in Tonto Speranto. | ||
| But I just think that, yeah, you can't do appointment television with what he has at his disposal. | ||
| He's got him, though! | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And he's got to remember that he made this what it is by being him, man. | ||
| He's had shit guests. | ||
| He's got to shave and come to Jesus. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Those are the two things he needs to do. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| He needs to have his, like, Jonah in the whale moment, and he needs to shave that beard. | ||
| Those are the two things. | ||
| Because the beard is terrible. | ||
| I don't know if you ever read this article, but there was, back in, like, maybe 2010, 2011, somewhere around there, there was a guy who was trying to sell, like, his tractor. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And the tractor deal went bad. | ||
| I do, wait, I remember the guy trying to sell his tractor. | ||
| What happened to the deal? | ||
| Well, the deal, I don't remember exactly what happened, but it went bad. | ||
| And then these dudes, who he was selling the tractor to, held him down, shaved his beard, and made him eat it. | ||
| And I want to do that. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| I want to do that to Alex. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| I want to make him eat his beard. | ||
| You want to make him eat his beard? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I would never have that thought if it weren't for this tractor deal that went bad years ago. | ||
| I want him to make it. | ||
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| There's a great video of this guy. | ||
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He's like, they held me down and made me eat my beard. | |
| It's so fucking hilarious. | ||
| I mean, it's terrible. | ||
| That's tragedy. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
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That's awful. | |
| I don't wish that on anybody. | ||
| It is definitely a crime, but as far as crimes go, that one's pretty hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I would do that to Alex in a second. | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| If only to get rid of that beard. | ||
| I would make other people eat other people's beards. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know what I think about that, but I do think beyond that he needs to have some sort of, I don't know how you do it. | ||
| I mean, where are we? | ||
| August? | ||
| There's no good holidays coming up. | ||
| I mean, maybe we wait until October. | ||
| Easter sale? | ||
| No, I'm just trying to think of, like, if Christmas was coming up, that would be great, because then he could have the ghost of Alex Past come and visit him, or something like that. | ||
| Oh, you're talking about bits? | ||
| No, I'm not saying as a bit, but he could experience it. | ||
| Maybe he does some mushrooms or something, and watches a clip of himself. | ||
| From 15 years ago. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| It remembers what he used to do. | ||
| You can keep the bigotry, but you can do it differently. | ||
| And you can not be kicked off things. | ||
| The reason you're kicked off stuff is because of slandering people. | ||
| Because of the threats that you've introduced to people's lives with your lies. | ||
| You walked that line for years, baby. | ||
| You can do it again. | ||
| Get back to it. | ||
| So you're asking for the third act of his life. | ||
| In the movie of his life, you're either asking for the beginning of the third act, where he has that moment, or the beginning of Mighty Ducks, where that's the start of the movie? | ||
| This isn't Alex Jones. | ||
| This is a fire in a barrel. | ||
| This isn't Alex Jones in a fire in a barrel. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know what I'm asking for. | ||
| I'm not asking for shit. | ||
| I'm just saying that, like... | ||
| As far as someone who takes in as much Alex Jones as I do, I don't see the future going well unless he gets rid of the beard and has a crisis. | ||
| And it can't be a crisis of, like, everyone's trying to kill Trump like he's pitching here. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's a current crisis. | ||
| It has to be self-realization. | ||
| It needs to be existential in nature. | ||
| Like, he needs to get back to the roots to some extent, where he was... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| The yelling isn't even fun anymore. | ||
| The yelling in the past was kind of fun. | ||
| He'd never do three minutes of Silver Stallion in 2018. | ||
| That is why he became the show he became. | ||
| It's because of those things where there's humanizing, there's fun moments, there's yelling, there's lies, there's bigotry. | ||
| There's all of that. | ||
| There's conspiracies. | ||
| Everything comes together in a booyah bays that is appealing. | ||
| But the individual ingredients maybe aren't great. | ||
| But now he just has rotten food that's put into this stew and he's trying to sell it the same way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it just doesn't work. | ||
| It is interesting that when we did our... | ||
| And it's rotten stew being sold by a worse waiter. | ||
| So the waiter isn't even... | ||
| The waiter is even worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, I'm sorry. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It is interesting that we, in our 2015 investigation, fucking nailed it. | ||
| Like, the thing that we continue talking about is... | ||
| And I think if we could... | ||
| We cogitated that it may happen. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I think as we go further into the 2009 stuff, which is, you know, that's indefinite, we can just keep going over that and digging up the truth there in perpetuity. | ||
| But, like, I think we're going to find even more, like, where it went wrong, wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, I don't think that the, I think the Trump is the, like... | ||
| Last thing that ruined his career. | ||
| I think there's much more before it that we're not taking into consideration. | ||
| If only because, for one thing, we don't know when he starts talking about George Soros. | ||
| And that's not to say talking about George Soros ruins your career. | ||
| It's just that that means something in terms of his narratives. | ||
| They've taken a change. | ||
| Secondarily, we don't know when that meeting with the Russians was, with the RT interview. | ||
| Those two things, if we can find those, I think we'll find much more of like, this is the... | ||
| definitive story of how he ruined his career over the course of a couple decades. | ||
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But anyway, currently he wants to talk more about how everyone thinks that he's... | |
| Fucking a piece of shit because of what he said about Parkland. | ||
| He's fucking a piece of shit? | ||
| He's a fucking piece of shit about what he said about Parkland. | ||
| And the reason that he's doing this is because most of the attacks that are saying he should be kicked off of Twitter have to do with things he said about David Hogg and Parkland. | ||
| Which he did say. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He's getting very defensive about that. | ||
| He's going to create some straw men and then at the same time he's going to lie. | ||
| The problem is they let Democrats be as violent and threatening and out of control as they want. | ||
| They take us questioning David Hogg, who's in three different videos saying, I was at home when the shooting started, I rode my bike, and then the shooting was over by then, and then him saying he was in the school while the shooting's happening. | ||
| And I've got those videos. | ||
| And he was there when it started. | ||
| I mean, I've got all the news reports right here. | ||
| I've already moved past that. | ||
| I'm not saying the school shooting didn't happen. | ||
| Play those videos. | ||
| But you can go to Jamie White's article, update, confusion over where David Hogg was during school shooting. | ||
| Three different videos of him saying three different things. | ||
| Play them. | ||
| Now, in a free country, I'm allowed to point this out. | ||
| If David Hogg thinks that's defamatory, his words, he can sue me, he can win in court. | ||
| So are a lot of other people right now. | ||
| Don't give him ideas. | ||
| Because he could. | ||
| And the reason is this, and Alex is kind of embodying it even in that clip right there. | ||
| The videos that he's talking about don't have David Hogg saying, I wasn't at the school. | ||
| They're talking about that evening. | ||
| We've talked about this already, this intentional misunderstanding that's happened because of edited video clips. | ||
| There's an interview that he gave where he's talking about how in the evening he went back to his house, got his camera, and came back to the school, or whatever. | ||
| He got on his bike and came back to try and get some footage. | ||
| That has nothing to do with where he was when the shooting happened. | ||
| It doesn't screw up the timeline in any way. | ||
| This is literally... | ||
| Intentionally misrepresenting something. | ||
| Because all that information is very publicly available. | ||
| If you watch the entire interview that that selected clip is taken from, where it's like, I came back to the school. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you watch the rest of it, it's very clear. | ||
| That either means that Alex has never watched the entire clip and has only seen the short versions that imply that he wasn't at the school, or that he has seen it and that he's intentionally lying about it. | ||
| Either way, the way he's behaving here... | ||
| Probably could get him another lawsuit. | ||
| And there's precedent, too. | ||
| Project Veritas got sued successfully multiple times. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| David Hogg. | ||
| Sue him. | ||
| Well, I mean, I don't know what to say, man. | ||
| It's just he's embodying why he's a bad journalist. | ||
| Like, this is why. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You need to know a modicum of what you're talking about. | ||
| I want him to do better than this. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It's a weird place to be in. | ||
| It's worse, though, man. | ||
| It gets worse. | ||
| This show is like... | ||
| You'll kind of understand, I think, why I ended up turning this off. | ||
| Because there's so much just yelling about the Antifa contract. | ||
| I didn't lie about David Hogg. | ||
| All this stuff. | ||
| It's like you're getting defensive as shit. | ||
| This is boring. | ||
| You're a boring person now. | ||
| You're shit to look at. | ||
| And just like, I don't want to watch this. | ||
| But that would all be fine. | ||
| I have a massive tolerance for even his most boring of work. | ||
| But it just gets to the point where it's like boring plus... | ||
| I'm getting ahead of myself. | ||
| Let's play this next clip because it's the last thing he says about David Hogg. | ||
| And I think it's bad. | ||
| But it's amazing to see CNN running around saying, shut Alex Jones down on Twitter. | ||
| He says David Hogg is a crisis actor. | ||
| He says David Hogg... | ||
| Wasn't there during the shooting. | ||
| He says no shooting happened. | ||
| I said no such thing. | ||
| I said he's in the drama club out of 3,000 students. | ||
| Four of them get picked who are already anti-gun. | ||
| So you're implying. | ||
| Who've already given anti-gun speeches to be the spokespersons for all the other kids. | ||
| And then all the other young people don't get to go on the news and sell their point of view. | ||
| And then David Hogg leads huge rallies all over the country. | ||
| Calls me a con artist. | ||
| Says I'm a snake oil salesman. | ||
| And I politely respond back to him. | ||
| And then they say. | ||
| I'm beating up on some young person and I'm a bully. | ||
| What's your definition of bully? | ||
| Hogg is in a man's world out there blaming gun owners for what happened. | ||
| And it's all back again, see? | ||
| And they keep running the headlines. | ||
| Jones says nobody died at Parkland. | ||
| They cannot find the video. | ||
| They cannot find the audio. | ||
| With Sandy Hook, because I used to play devil's advocate. | ||
| What? | ||
| Because I was looking at all the angles, having people on for debates, looking at anomalies, saying, I can see how it totally happened. | ||
| A lot of these parents look very credible. | ||
| And I would say the other. | ||
| They take that out and sue me for that. | ||
| Obviously, that's protected under the First Amendment. | ||
| But now the Democrats are all over the news saying, we want to get rid of New York Times versus Sullivan, the defense of the free speech. | ||
| We want to basically repeal the First Amendment. | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| Snooze. | ||
| Snooze. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| How do you repeal an amendment? | ||
| You have to... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It's a cumbersome process. | ||
| You have to basically get a whole new amendment to the Constitution. | ||
| So you have to go through three-quarters of the states, ratify it, and let's get two-thirds in the state houses. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| Yeah, that's a tough thing to do. | ||
| Congress and... | ||
| Each house of Congress has to vote it through with like a three-quarters... | ||
| Yeah, it's a mess. | ||
| We did, however, agree that if you nuke the First Amendment, it will also go away. | ||
| No, that's the only way to kill it. | ||
| It won't go away. | ||
| It'll still live on as a ghost. | ||
| It'll live on a ghost? | ||
| Two amendments live on as ghosts? | ||
| Its corporeal form will go away. | ||
| Like force ghosts, like Obi-Wan Kenobi. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| That's what we're talking about. | ||
| Which also, by the way, one of Alex's new commercials is Star Wars based. | ||
| And it is that scene with Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi. | ||
| And Alex, of course, Obi-Wan doing the, if you strike me down, I'll become so much more powerful. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| And then so he gets struck down. | ||
| And then you see a shot of the Millennium Falcon. | ||
| And it's like, our app is number one on iTunes. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| God, it's stupid. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| But the only thing I want to really say about that last clip is that this is why people who don't really deal with Alex should not talk about him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And I know everyone wants to talk about him and shit, but if you don't know much about him, you would probably believe that he said that no one died at Parkland. | |
| Because he did say that about Sandy Hook. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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So you would think, yeah, it's believable that he'd say that, so you might tweet that out or something like that. | |
| You would say these sorts of things that are, like, there's nuance to what he was lying about. | ||
| And if you just come in with that sort of, like, broad haymaker... | ||
| And I've definitely seen that with people who should know better. | ||
| I'll just say that. | ||
| There are people who definitely should know better and getting a lot of tweet action off of saying things that aren't true about Alex. | ||
| But they're real close. | ||
| And if they just knew a little better, knew what he actually has said, they could do a better job. | ||
| But in the meantime, they should probably stop. | ||
| You can get a lot of points online, I think, from being like, hey, Alex Jones is a piece of shit. | ||
| He said no one died at blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Parkland. | ||
| And good for you. | ||
| Enjoy it. | ||
| Enjoy those tweets. | ||
| Enjoy those retweets and stuff. | ||
| More engagement. | ||
| But all you're doing is helping him. | ||
| People do it for the gram, though, Dan. | ||
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What? | |
| For the gram? | ||
| Instagram? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Aw, man. | ||
| You gotta get those numbers up. | ||
| Doesn't matter if it's true or not. | ||
| Doesn't matter if you research it. | ||
| We gotta gram more. | ||
| Do we? | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| We're not good at any of that. | ||
| No. | ||
| We are not a brand. | ||
| We're bad at branding. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| No, we're just like a show. | ||
| Yeah, I'm fine with that. | ||
| So now we get back to Alex being really into pushing fear. | ||
| And this to me seems like what he really wants to talk about. | ||
| He already has said that they're going to take out Trump in the next three months. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which he has been saying for the past 15. About two years, yeah. | ||
| But beyond that, he's got some real fear narratives here. | ||
| And I think this is where he realizes he can make hay. | ||
| And this is the only thing he can do. | ||
| I said they're going to shut everybody down. | ||
| Ahead of the midterms. | ||
| They know they're losing. | ||
| They're panicking. | ||
| But they've also said they're going to have low-intensity warfare. | ||
| They're not going to just burn trash cans and knock some windows out. | ||
| They have said that they're going to start killing cops. | ||
| This is what the Antifa internal leaks are. | ||
| They're going to start hitting some Republican congressmen like they've already done at the baseball field. | ||
| They're going to shoot their Republican neighbors, city council members. | ||
| They are all just being told through the ether, like an Al-Qaeda-type situation. | ||
| When there's no cells, they just put out the order and then... | ||
| People that are adherents out there through the web, they carry it out. | ||
| And all of that is being amplified. | ||
| All of that is being pushed. | ||
| All of that is being hammered. | ||
| So that's, I mean, that's pretty harsh. | ||
| That's pretty, that's scary as shit if you believe he's not lying, which he is. | ||
| The idea that Antifa's just going to go out and now they're going to shoot cops. | ||
| Now they're just going to come around and fucking start maybe not doing fires in barrels, but they're going to start shooting people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's the first piece of this. | ||
| Now it gets worse in this next clip. | ||
| He's going to build this fear up even further. | ||
| They're going to try, I believe, in October. | ||
| History mirrors itself, and it generally comes in late September into early mid-October. | ||
| He's referencing just a couple stock market crashes, not many of them. | ||
| They're going to try a stock market crash with civil unrest in October. | ||
| October is a big month for him. | ||
| Historically. | ||
| October of rage. | ||
| October of rage. | ||
| I just can't believe the globalists are siding with the chai comms and Hollywood's doing this and that all these crazy people don't want America to come back. | ||
| I mean, everybody's been serving the globalists kind of half-assed. | ||
| You didn't know what you were doing. | ||
| You really should be joining the American team right now because we finally got a real president. | ||
| The country's coming back and this is crazy what you're doing because if they're able to plunge the stock market and bring in civil unrest bad enough to remove Trump, they're going to go for broke. | ||
| And they're going to activate all sorts of sleeper cells. | ||
| They're working with Iran. | ||
| We know the left's working with Iran. | ||
| They've got real sleeper cells, not like the fake Al-Qaeda ones. | ||
| They're going to start doing all sorts of nasty stuff. | ||
| I wouldn't want to be in an apartment building, I'll tell you that. | ||
| I live in an apartment building. | ||
| They're going to dump chlorine gas down your air conditioner at about 8 o 'clock at night when everybody's sitting around to have dinner. | ||
| You can imagine the panic when you've got 5,000 people dead in the building in an hour. | ||
| I mean, they are ready, they are lined up, they are, this is how wars begin, and they think they're taking America down right now. | ||
| That's pretty fucking extreme. | ||
| That's a bit aggressive. | ||
| That's pretty serious in terms of the, I'm trying to scare you. | ||
| Hey guys, I'm really trying to scare you. | ||
| They are going to, uh, wait. | ||
| Stand on top of your place and pour chlorine down your chimney? | ||
| Is that kind of what he's suggesting there? | ||
| I would assume so, because it's not like... | ||
| I mean, I have a window AC unit. | ||
| I guess out from outside you could dump something in it, but if there's central air, that's not going to work. | ||
| No. | ||
| You have to get inside. | ||
| Then it's like Skyscraper. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The movie with the rock. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Which we kind of watched last night. | ||
| Which we watched like 20 minutes of. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| And Deb's on mute. | ||
| He did not find... | ||
| It was not on mute. | ||
| It just didn't have any sound. | ||
| Spoiler alert, Jordan downloaded a copy of Debs. | ||
| Don't incriminate me. | ||
| No, it was from a reputable source. | ||
| But it didn't have audio. | ||
| It had only the soundtrack, not the audio. | ||
| It was a disaster. | ||
| It was a disaster. | ||
| It's a great movie. | ||
| It was not a great movie. | ||
| It's a fine movie. | ||
| Even without sound, I knew what it would be like with sound. | ||
| It's good stuff. | ||
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| And The Rock never fought that fucking skyscraper. | ||
| No! | ||
| I left about 40 minutes into the movie because I had to get home. | ||
| He didn't even punch the wall one time. | ||
| Did he make it? | ||
| Yeah, he made it. | ||
| Of course he made it. | ||
| He's the fucking rock. | ||
| He even grew his foot back. | ||
| That's how great the rock is in movies. | ||
| He lost his foot and then he grew it back at the end of the movie. | ||
| Is this stem cell propaganda? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Oh my god, the globalists. | ||
| He actually took part of the skyscraper and made it his way. | ||
| Little did you know that skyscraper, the movie, was globalist propaganda. | ||
| For tall buildings? | ||
| Or for stem cells. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| He was unvaccinated though, so they're like 50-50 on the scale. | ||
| What do you think about the fear that Alex is pushing right now? | ||
| How do you feel it? | ||
| Do you feel like it's more extreme than general? | ||
| Do you feel like it's on par? | ||
| You know, I feel like it's too extreme for him. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| It's parody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because no one, even his people, aren't going to believe that they're going to follow you home. | ||
| And then put chlorine in your air. | ||
| Iranian sleeper cells. | ||
| At 8. Why at 8? | ||
| Do it when everybody's asleep. | ||
| Or do it during the workday before they get home. | ||
| Also, if this all is happening in October, most people's AC is going to be off. | ||
| That's when their heat kicks in, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can still get them all. | ||
| You can get them left and right. | ||
| Put it in the furnace. | ||
| Put it in the... | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or, again, chimneys. | ||
| It was a classic Santa situation. | ||
| Everybody knows that Iranian sleeper cells operate under chimney sweep laws from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. | ||
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Chim chimney, chim chimney, chim chim chlorine gas. | |
| There you go. | ||
| That's a great song. | ||
| Dick Van Dyke was trying to tell us something years ago. | ||
| Oi! | ||
| I'm from Iran! | ||
| So there's a lot of fear going on here, and it's a lot of bullshit, but it gets even worse. | ||
| I stopped at this in the middle to enjoy how bad it is. | ||
| It gets even worse. | ||
| Everybody better get maximum engaged politically, but also spend some of your time, I'd say 80% engaged politically, 20% of the time, they start killing political leaders. | ||
| By the way, he does not say what you should do 20% of the time. | ||
| He just gets into his negative. | ||
| So 20% of the time, when they start killing political leaders. | ||
| It's clear that I'm not chopping and screwing this or anything, but he never says what you should do with that 20% of the time. | ||
| It's implied that it's probably get a gun and get ready. | ||
| Engage politically 20% of the time. | ||
| They start killing political leaders and patriots. | ||
| If you're a political leader or a patriot in your area and you don't even think of yourself as a leader, you're on a list. | ||
| They've got leftists coming to your house to kill you. | ||
| When they initiate this... | ||
| This operation, if they really go for Trump and everybody else, they're not going to just take Trump out. | ||
| They're going to go after Ron Paul, Senator Paul. | ||
| They're going to go after me. | ||
| They're going to go after you. | ||
| They're going to go after judges. | ||
| They're going to go after the Supreme Court. | ||
| They're going to, let me tell you, they might set a nuke off in Congress. | ||
| There is no link they won't go. | ||
| This is World War IV. | ||
| The Cold War was World War III, according to the CIA, and I agree with that. | ||
| This is World War IV. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| Does everybody better decide which side they're on? | ||
| In 30 seconds of plugging. | ||
| We're running huge. | ||
| Stop the bullies. | ||
| Censorship. | ||
| Stop the takedown of the internet specials. | ||
| Fight the bullies. | ||
| Save the internet. | ||
| Save Infowars. | ||
| Super special. | ||
| Some of the biggest specials ever on fluoride-free colloidal silver iodine fortified toothpaste. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
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I... | |
| Wow. | ||
| My neck was just broken. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| From new Congress. | ||
| It's World War IV. | ||
| Pick your side. | ||
| It's already begun. | ||
| You're going to need some iodine. | ||
| I'm going to do 30 seconds of plug. | ||
| You're going to need some iodine. | ||
| So embarrassing. | ||
| World War IV. | ||
| So embarrassing. | ||
| And that's all from the same segment. | ||
| I just cut out parts that were kind of like him meandering and stuff. | ||
| But he starts with this... | ||
| You know, they're going to kill cops. | ||
| Antifa's coming to kill cops. | ||
| Then gets into the stock market's going to crash in October. | ||
| Everything is going to go down. | ||
| They're going to put chlorine in your air system. | ||
| And then leftists are going to show up to fucking murder all patriots. | ||
| They're going to show up at your door to murder you. | ||
| Now, I've got 30 seconds of specials. | ||
| We do knock politely, though. | ||
| That is one thing about leftists that will... | ||
| When we do start murdering all of the patriots... | ||
| One of our big rules, it's in the bylaws of the leftists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Knock politely. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| What are we? | ||
| Are we them? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| I love the idea that he's doing the stand-up to bullies special or whatever, and he's like, David Hogg's in a man's world now. | ||
| I'm going to lie about him. | ||
| Like, just fucking stop. | ||
| This is so... | ||
| This is lame, man. | ||
| And I don't... | ||
| I don't feel the same way about listening to the 2009 episodes that we're not covering yet that are just boring. | ||
| I don't feel that way about them. | ||
| I don't feel like, just go to bed. | ||
| Go to bed. | ||
| I don't feel that way about it. | ||
| I feel like, eh, you'll do better tomorrow. | ||
| You'll do a better job tomorrow. | ||
| To me, in the present, I'm just like, go to bed, Alex. | ||
| This is fucking lame. | ||
| He needs to do, and I've texted you about this, he needs to just stop. | ||
| And let Paul Joseph Watson be in charge. | ||
| He needs to get away from it. | ||
| Let Paul Joseph Watson take over Infowars and let him be the guy from behind the scenes controlling stuff. | ||
| Never going to do it. | ||
| But that's the way... | ||
| Alex cannot be behind the scenes. | ||
| He's a narcissist. | ||
| He has to have all the attention. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But if he wants to continue the standard of living that he has and the operation... | ||
| That he needs to give it to Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| None of these other dudes can handle that. | ||
| Owen Shorier sucks. | ||
| David Knight's boring as hell. | ||
| Paul sucks also, but he's much more popular. | ||
| He could do it. | ||
| If Alex wants to survive, at the end of the day, based on what I've seen in the weeks since he's been kicked off all this stuff, he can't do it himself. | ||
| He's too self-involved. | ||
| All this is so petty. | ||
| It's personal. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| He needs to step away from it, and unfortunately, That's literally the only thing he can't do. | ||
| Because of what you're saying, he's a narcissist. | ||
| He needs to be in control of it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, and think about how easy it is, easy it is, for disgraced white men to have a redemption narc. | ||
| Sure, look at Hardwick's back on the Nerdist site. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Louis C.K. is probably going to have another TV show next year, or whatever it is. | ||
| He's going to have a special, and how about how funny it is to masturbate at people? | ||
| Everybody loves it whenever a white man says, I'm sorry, and then continues doing the same shit that he was doing before. | ||
| That's 98% of America's story. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| So just fucking go away for a little bit. | ||
| Lilo. | ||
| While Paul Joseph Watson runs everything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then you're going to make a courageous comeback whenever Paul Joseph Watson wears out his welcome because everybody's like, this ponce is bullshit. | ||
| Without editing, he stinks. | ||
| And Alex shaves his beard. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a shave. | ||
| Part of the comeback is shaving that beard. | ||
| You're really on that beard thing. | ||
| It's really bad. | ||
| You really don't like that beard. | ||
| It just sucks. | ||
| It just sucks. | ||
| It's an affront to you personally, as your beard is magnificent. | ||
| Well, it's one of those things, like, he has good coverage. | ||
| It's not like he's missing parts of it or anything like that. | ||
| It's not patchy. | ||
| Like, some people have, like, a line on the cheek where it's like, oh, there's just a line that's not coming in there. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He has enough there, but... | ||
| It's just bad. | ||
| It just looks bad. | ||
| It doesn't fit his face. | ||
| Does he need to, like, style it in some way? | ||
| No, because it's not long enough yet. | ||
| Like, it should be. | ||
| He's clearly trimming it, is the thing. | ||
| Oh, he is. | ||
| So he's purposefully making it look this bad. | ||
| It's been months. | ||
| Like, if he has that much beard now from, like, a couple months of growth, I don't know what the fuck he's doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then I think that his testosterone-boosting supplements may not be working. | ||
| I suggest to Alex. | ||
| If you are listening. | ||
| There is a brilliant comedian in Chicago, friend of the show, Mike Wiley. | ||
| Go that route. | ||
| Go that route. | ||
| Tiny little Ian Scott anthrax beard. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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For sure. | |
| That would be a crazy look on him. | ||
| That would be a crazy look, and I would be in his corner forever if he just... | ||
| One of the reasons it works so well for Wiley, though, too, is that his body is most... | ||
| It's pretty svelte. | ||
| Yes, that's true. | ||
| He's a pretty in-shape guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And his head is longer than fatter. | ||
| And Alex has a fat head. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't think that works on a fat head. | ||
| How do you feel about giant sideburns? | ||
| Love them. | ||
| I would say, let's give them a... | ||
| Chopstache. | ||
| Chopstache! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Sideburns going into a mustache. | ||
| You just shaved the chin. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's aggressive. | ||
| It's perfect for Alex. | ||
| It goes back to the lineage of Ambrose Burnside. | ||
| Civil War General. | ||
| To whom you love. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It would be great. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You've got to do something, though. | ||
| Anyway, we have one more clip here, and this is me saving you from having to listen to Alex's next guest. | ||
| Dinesh D'Souza is with us. | ||
| He is the number two biggest... | ||
| I'm going to start this over because you yelled. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Dinesh D'Souza is with us. | ||
| We'll start this over because you yelled again. | ||
| Dinesh D'Souza is with us. | ||
| He is the number two biggest filmmaker in history, and that's been the Hollywood Outsider. | ||
| He's also a number one New York Times best-selling author of Death of a Nation. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I would prefer Death of a Dinesh. | ||
| He's trying to do this as a mirror of birth of a nation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just fun. | ||
| His whole argument seems to be that fascist organizations over history are actually liberals, as opposed to having conservative bets. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And most of the arguments that I've seen, I'm never going to watch that whole documentary, but the clips that I've seen have largely had to do with misrepresenting the party swap that happened in the 60s. | ||
| It's mostly just playing games with that. | ||
| Right, how the civil rights removed any and all Southern Democrats from the Democratic Party. | ||
| It's mostly playing games with that in the same way that Alex does with the Democrats with the party of slavery. | ||
| It's like, yeah, but you need... | ||
| I don't think any Democrat anymore that I've ever spoken to will not acknowledge that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery. | ||
| They can't not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They have to deny history. | ||
| That's part of the Democratic Party is we're all like, dude, for real, it was fucked up shit. | ||
| But then we got the Civil Rights Act passed and all of those guys left to you. | ||
| So let's hold off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did all the racists leave from the Democratic Party? | ||
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No. | |
| Fuck no. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm sure we've got tons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's problems. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| But you guys want slavery again. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| So, Dinesh D'Souza is the number two filmmaker of all time. | ||
| I had trouble with this. | ||
| So I looked up his filmography. | ||
| He's right behind Alan Smithy, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| As a fill-in name. | ||
| No. | ||
| If I make a bad movie, I am going to change my name to Dinesh D'Souza, but without the apostrophe, and just call it... | ||
| I honestly thought, when I did my research for this, I thought he said he was the number two documentary filmmaker of all time. | ||
| He said number two, so behind James Cameron? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| But I understood it to be documentary filmmaker, so that's where I did my research. | ||
| Because I assumed he meant Michael Moore was number one. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And you just didn't want to name him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I looked into it, and what I found was that here are the top grossing documentary films of all time. | ||
| Number one is Fahrenheit 9-11. | ||
| Made $119 million at the box office. | ||
| Number two is Alaska Spirit of the Wild. | ||
| $100 million. | ||
| Directed by George Casey. | ||
| Number three, Antarctica. | ||
| $100 million at the box office. | ||
| Can you believe that? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Directed by a guy named John Wiley. | ||
| Antarctica? | ||
| Yeah, documentary about Antarctica. | ||
| At the box office? | ||
| 100 million. | ||
| And from DVD sales, all that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Total gross. | ||
| Okay, I got you. | ||
| Number four, Space Station 3D. | ||
| It was $93.3 million. | ||
| Directed by someone named Tony Myers. | ||
| So I looked into Dinesh D'Souza's filmography. | ||
| Here's what we got. | ||
| We got 2016, Obama's America. | ||
| $33 million. | ||
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All right. | |
| That's not terrible. | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| That's crazy good. | ||
| I would take that. | ||
| How much did it cost him? | ||
| Probably nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was the top grossing documentary of 2016, which is unfortunate because Tickled came out that year. | ||
| But there's other... | ||
| That's a great documentary. | ||
| Other than that, it was kind of a thin field in terms of documentaries. | ||
| I'm like, $33 million is pretty good. | ||
| America. | ||
| Imagine the World Without Her. | ||
| $14 million. | ||
| Hillary's America. | ||
| Made 13 million. | ||
| Imagine the world with her. | ||
| Death of a Nation just came out, but it's grossed about $3.5 million in the first few weeks, which is great for what is obviously a no-budget documentary. | ||
| Yeah, it cost him $100,000 to make a documentary. | ||
| Easily. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But at the same time, all four of these add up to about $67 million, which combined, for his career, second behind James Cameron. | ||
| It is so goddamn far from the second, even documentarian or filmmaker who's ever existed. | ||
| In the span of his career, Dinesh D'Souza hasn't even grossed as much as March of the Penguins or the Justin Bieber concert film Never Say Never. | ||
| Never Say Never, the Justin Bieber film paid over $10 million more than all of Dinesh D'Souza's films combined. | ||
| And it deserves every penny. | ||
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I will never say never. | |
| Is he beating Werner Herzog? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, and Errol Morris, probably. | ||
| And Errol Morris? | ||
| Man, that's disappointing. | ||
| It's unfortunate because those guys didn't have good box office openings. | ||
| Like, the Thin Blue Line probably only made like two million at the box office. | ||
| Yeah, but it's not really a popcorn movie. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| It's more of a sit-at-home-in-your-apartment-alone-watching-it-at-2-a-m-drunk-and-crying. | ||
| And Fitzcarraldo didn't make much of it. | ||
| Who could have guessed why? | ||
| But I don't think those movies also came out at times when they... | ||
| I wasn't adjusting for inflation. | ||
| So like Errol Morris' documentaries that came out in the mid-80s and then Herzog's around the same time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like it wouldn't be adjusted for... | ||
| Yeah, but Grizzly Man. | ||
| That did pretty well. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Let me look that up. | ||
| I didn't look that up. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| Here's the real comedy of that. | ||
| I forgot that Herzog did Grizzly Man. | ||
| Let's see what that gross. | ||
| I don't like while I'm looking this up, you go to your phone. | ||
| I'm not going to my phone. | ||
| The time when I need you to vamp the hardest. | ||
| It probably wasn't actually that great. | ||
| 3.1 million. | ||
| Oh, it wasn't that great. | ||
| I mean, that's pretty good for a documentary. | ||
| Yeah, and that's why the anti-Obama film getting 33 million is very notable. | ||
| The fact that he has that in his catalog is not to be ignored or looked down on, but there might be a different variable there. | ||
| Why that was so popular. | ||
| I can't think of any variable. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's mysterious. | ||
| Maybe because there's a certain subsection of the population that feels underserved by their conspiracy theories not being constantly. | ||
| They're aggressively repeated to them by Hollywood, and so they artificially inflate the numbers of anybody. | ||
| Like, what's his Kirk Cameron movies make money? | ||
| They make money. | ||
| They make money. | ||
| They don't lose money. | ||
| Well, but that goes back to, like, Jim Baker types. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because a lot of those are, like, you'll have an overinflated gross just because of church groups that come and see it. | ||
| Buses of churches that would come in for movies like Carmen. | ||
| You remember Carmen? | ||
| No. | ||
| Carmen was this old Latino guy. | ||
| I thought you were talking about the opera. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| There was this guy named Carmen who was like a Christian celebrity. | ||
| And he would make these super low-budget Christian movies. | ||
| But sometimes they would show up at our theater. | ||
| We were this secondary theater in town. | ||
| And so if we got that, they would sell the fuck out because busloads of Christians would come. | ||
| And they would just go see Carmen the Champion. | ||
| And no one else would. | ||
| My whole town growing up shut down when The Passion of the Christ came out. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Every single fucking church was like, Sundays are cancelled! | ||
| My theater was a fucking zoo when that came out. | ||
| And it wasn't because of too many people. | ||
| It was because it was all groups of 200. | ||
| Whereas most organic movie viewing is... | ||
| Groups of three. | ||
| Groups of four, maybe. | ||
| A date. | ||
| You would have buses come and fill the parking lot. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| If you guys all want to do this as an outing and boost your own shit, cool. | ||
| I'm not against it. | ||
| I'm still furious I never got a handjob during The Passion of the Christ. | ||
| Furious. | ||
| You have a girlfriend now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have Netflix. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can make this happen. | ||
| Is it on Netflix? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't looked. | ||
| It seems too late now. | ||
| Now it seems almost manufactured. | ||
| I want an organic handjob during The Passion of the Christ. | ||
| Organic orgasm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know it is on Netflix, though. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Justin Bieber's documentary. | ||
|
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I will never say never. | |
| Do they include the rights? | ||
| Netflix has to pay some sort of fee. | ||
| Every time somebody views it, maybe? | ||
| That's generally, I think, included in the gross. | ||
| But I would imagine that comes down... | ||
| What would be considered in the gross is the contract that Netflix has paid. | ||
| Yeah, the licensing fee or whatever it is. | ||
| Because I don't think it comes down to viewer numbers. | ||
| That's how Netflix decides what they keep and get rid of. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that Netflix just pays whatever... | ||
| There's a blanket licensing fee right off the top, and then they go from there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then whoever watches it, watches it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why there's all these really shitty things they probably paid. | ||
| 50 bucks to put them on there. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Like Everybody's Special. | ||
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Hey! | |
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| Stand up. | ||
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Hold up. | |
| There's some good comedy on there. | ||
| There's some real bad comedy on there, too. | ||
| Rory Scovel's Special, fantastic. | ||
| I've watched it like 10 times. | ||
| Good stuff. | ||
| Still great. | ||
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Good stuff. | |
| Anal. | ||
| Anal. | ||
| Who's done anal? | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| That is not a good representative sample of Rory Scovel's Special. | ||
| But it's what you chose. | ||
| It's the way it opens. | ||
| That's the only point. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| Mm-hmm? | ||
| If I need to bring this episode to an end, what I would say is that the last time we checked in on Modern Day Alex, right after the ban, him getting kicked off of stuff, I made my point that his fate is in his own hands, and he can do whatever he wants now, and we'll see what happens. | ||
| My point now is... | ||
| He's fucked. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's his own fault. | ||
| It's his own fault. | ||
| He could have done much better, and instead he's rambling about the Chinese and stuff like that. | ||
| And hey, you know what? | ||
| If you want to complain about the Chinese, that's fine. | ||
| If you want to complain that the Chinese, like, hey, no one can cover the Chinese doing stuff, that's fucking stupid. | ||
| There's an article right here from the other day out of the Channel News Asia about China delays mosque demolition after a protest. | ||
| Weird. | ||
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Beijing. | |
| Authorities in northern China delayed the demolition of a massive mosque on Saturday. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| So if you want to talk about stuff like this, you can. | ||
| People are. | ||
| There are news stories about that. | ||
| And there's plenty of news stories you can find from our outlets in America about oppressive shit they're doing. | ||
| From CNBC, rudely trampling on international trade rules, China. | ||
| It's not like no one is saying China is being a dick or whatever. | ||
| No, that's a pretty regular statement that a lot of people make. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because China is being a dick. | ||
| Yeah, he can't claim that... | ||
| Which is not to absolve us. | ||
| America is being the number one dick right now. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| We're to share in the blame. | ||
| But that sort of narrative, Alex would be much better served if he actually dwelled in some nuance of it. | ||
| But it doesn't. | ||
| It's all nonsense, man. | ||
| It's just diminished fear and ad pivots. | ||
| It's the exact same game we saw him playing for years and years, and he's so trained. | ||
| Like a Pavlovian dog. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That he is just doing the same thing and expecting the same result. | ||
| And it's not going to work. | ||
| He needs his Rocky III. | ||
| He just got his ass kicked by Mr. T. He needs a badass training montage. | ||
| Probably some domestic issues with his wife. | ||
| He needs to overcome it. | ||
| And then he needs to knock Mr. T out. | ||
| Can those domestic issues be with his ex-wife? | ||
| Because then we might be cooking with gas. | ||
| I think we might be cooking with gas there. | ||
| And then three installments later, he'll make a good one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Did you just disparage Rocky IV, the greatest movie of all time? | ||
| Dang it. | ||
| Dang it. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Rocky IV! | ||
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It's like if America was a movie! | |
| Here's the time where I tell you I've never seen any Rocky movies. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Guys, if we add another $50 to the Patreon by the end of next month, Dan and I will do a knowledge fight commentary of all of the Rocky movies in one day. | ||
| I'll probably have some thoughts about it. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Please, if you like the show, support the show. | ||
| You know, it's shitty after we just clown on Alex for his nonsense. | ||
| But we appreciate everybody. | ||
| Also, we are not going to do... | ||
| Rocky movies. | ||
| We might. | ||
| We might. | ||
| If you'd like to support the show, you can go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show. | ||
| Also, just knowledgefight.com is our website. | ||
| There's not a lot there anymore, but we're working on... | ||
| I'm working on a lot of stuff. | ||
| It's just a page that says call Larry Nichols. | ||
| I'm working on a lot of stuff that will replace a lot of the content that we had on our website, a lot of the blogs, a lot of that stuff. | ||
| Working on it. | ||
| It's going to take a while. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| But we thank you for your support. | ||
| We are also on Twitter. | ||
| We are. | ||
| You can find us on Facebook. | ||
| You should join our group. | ||
| Go home and tell your mother you are brilliant. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| We're also on iTunes. | ||
| Man, look at all these platforms we're on. | ||
| So many. | ||
| I think we've criticized the Chinese more coherently than Alex has. | ||
| And yet, here we are. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Still online. | ||
| Oh, Dan, I think it's my turn. | ||
| I think it might be. | ||
| So, I think the obvious answer to the question of who should go fuck themselves this week is... | ||
| Is it the number two filmmaker of all time? | ||
| No, it's actually Jack from Twitter. | ||
| Go fuck yourself, you pussy and coward bitch. | ||
| Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |