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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan, sitting in as a replacement Jordan today while Jordan is off in California on vacation.
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Matt Riggs.
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Hello.
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Welcome back to the show, Matt.
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Thank you.
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It's been a while.
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It has.
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Good to have you back.
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Let me ask you, have you...
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Learned anything about Alex Jones since you've been on last?
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Just stuff that's been in the news.
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Sure, sure.
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I haven't been watching the show as much lately.
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So it's safe to say that I know a lot about Alex Jones, and you still know very little about him.
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Yeah, I don't know if I've told you this, I've told other people this, every time that I have been here, I usually leave sad.
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Yeah, and this time might be no different.
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That is something that is one of the...
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And I get this from listeners sometimes, too.
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I like the show, but this is depressing.
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Yeah, it's sad.
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Yeah, I know.
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Sorry.
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It's not so much him, because I know that he's just, in the vein of a Rush Limbaugh or whatever, he's just a character spouting nonsense so he can make money.
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Yeah, more or less.
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But it's the people that are out there that believe it.
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Like, I knew a guy that believed it.
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He's no longer with us, and there's no conspiracy.
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He just died.
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Eh?
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As far as I know.
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Eh?
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Probably fluoride.
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He'd put up InfoWars stickers and stuff and had one on his car and whatnot.
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Because there's a war on for your mind.
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Okay, you can have it.
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That does bum me out, too.
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It's something that I struggle with, but you've got to keep moving forward.
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I think that there's plenty of stuff that's at least...
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I can't make an argument that this is fun at all.
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Yeah.
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Well, you do it a lot.
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The older I get, the more I'm kind of like, I don't really care what happens.
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I'll just find my little pillow and whatever's going on and just until I die.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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So whenever the shit comes, you'll just take a nap and go out with the world.
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Like, whoever.
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I'll put a hand up.
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Whatever.
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It's fine.
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I don't care.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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What am I going to change?
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Well, I mean, I think you can...
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I don't know what you can change.
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I hope.
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I hope you can...
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I mean, look, here's the deal.
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It's the children's job now.
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I will say that I had a thought, and then I lost it.
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Cool.
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Which is always good.
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All right.
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Well, I have a thought that I'm not going to lose, and that is I'd like to give a shout-out to a new donor.
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A new policy wonk joined up with the team, and we very much appreciate it.
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Thank you so much out there, Mike C. I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you.
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We appreciate it very much.
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If you'd like to become a policy wonk yourself, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click the support the show button, and then you'll be a policy wonk.
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Do it.
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It's a simple deal.
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It's that easy.
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I know I've got a lot of friends that support the show.
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It's great.
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Financially.
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Is that right?
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I don't know if you do.
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No, I just guessed I had some.
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I don't think so.
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None of the people that know?
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Maybe a couple, but it's mostly people we've never met.
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Well, you're my friend now.
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Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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Something that's not very cool is Alex Jones' behavior on this episode we're going to be talking about today.
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What?
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You're kidding me.
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I thought maybe he took a day off and just showed YouTube clips.
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Nope.
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We're going over today, Friday's episode, March 23rd, 2018.
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And, you know, it's the end of last week, and I usually try and move on to, you know, this week.
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Because this episode's coming out on Monday, and I don't want to dwell in the past of last week.
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But there's enough important news that had come out that I think it's relevant.
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Can I ask you this?
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Because I don't keep up with Alex Jones, but I do keep up with the news.
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How much is he still talking about?
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Yeah.
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People in the chat room like to know what the novelty beverage is.
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It's a sparkling Ice Mountain black cherry.
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I don't like it.
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Should I have given that away now?
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I don't know.
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I hope to like it by the end of the bottle.
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You and Jordan are anti-Ice Mountain, and I do not like it.
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First of all, I enjoy their regular water.
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I'm not a fan of the fizzy water.
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That's fine.
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Anyway, how much is he still like a big shill for Trump?
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Oh, 100%.
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So this whole Stormy Daniels and all this other stuff are just globalists?
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Stormy Daniels will not come up, but yes, that is his position, that it's the globalists attacking him and what have you.
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He did make a video that came out on Saturday over the weekend where he pretends that he's turning on Trump because he signed the omnibus spending bill.
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Everybody hates him now.
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But it's just Alex being like, oh, let's turn on Trump instead of the globalists who are really responsible.
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Also, he's mocking more.
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More of like the Fox News and Coulters then.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Yeah, he's sort of giving them a little bit of the business.
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I appreciate...
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Any glimpse of reality that those people want to show.
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Like when Tucker Carlson was like, when Trump was like, well, let's just take their guns and then deal with it later.
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And he's like, if Obama said that, we'd all be really mad.
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I'm like, what?
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Have you not heard every person say that for the last year and a half?
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Alex, his take on that was that it's a Machiavellian move trying to lure people into the open in order to shut down gun registration and gun laws.
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I've been in writers' rooms.
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These guys are good.
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They're pretty good.
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Yeah.
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The sort of ability to do backflips with reality.
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But you know what?
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In a writer's room, you might also have someone pitching impressions.
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Like if it's a comedy show.
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Oh, no.
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And here's an out-of-context drop from today's show that shows some of that.
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In all the games they play, Bernie Sanders.
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Hey!
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I'll be like Venezuela.
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All right, I said I'd go to your calls.
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I apologize.
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Yeah, all right.
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Kind of the beginning and end were good.
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The weird, oh, was weird.
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Yeah, we just like to catalog every time he breaks out his Bernie Sanders impression.
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Yeah.
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It's very important.
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So today, like I said, there's big news that happened on Thursday, and that's why the Friday show is sort of important to cover.
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There's no booze in this, right?
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No, no, it's just water.
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Kind of weird he has an aftertaste of booze.
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Nope, that might be just your perceptions.
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You will be stone cold sober at the end of this.
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So, what happened on Thursday, I think that is most important, is that they announced that H.R. McMaster was going to be out as National Security Advisor.
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He was going to be replaced with John Bolton.
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And this should be a big red flag for Alex.
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This should be a very, like, I'm out kind of moment.
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Because John Bolton is a notorious warmonger.
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He is someone who was very in favor of the Iraq War.
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He's someone who helped push that through with fake intelligence.
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He's also still in favor of the Iraq War and has kind of very publicly made the argument that...
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The problem was we didn't stay there long enough.
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We weren't aggressive enough.
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Yeah, his president said the opposite while he was running for president.
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You mean Donald Trump?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's very counter...
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And the other thing that's alarming is that there's an article in The Intercept that just came out on Friday as well, after this news started to break.
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And it's discussing how the...
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John Bolton, eight months ago, gave a speech to a group of Iranian exile people called the People's Mujahideen.
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Some people, namely John Bolton, believe that they're a viable alternative to the regime that is in power in Iran.
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Basically told them that the Iranian revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini's revolution in 1979 will not last until its 40th birthday, which would be the beginning of 2019.
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Yeah.
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So that is sort of him telling this Iranian separatist group that we're going to topple them by the end of 2018.
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So Alex shouldn't be thrilled with any of this.
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No.
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You know, he should be very against, because he always talks about, I don't like nation building, I think we should stay out of other people's business.
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Sure.
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And now we have someone going in as a national security advisor who's clearly in favor of war with Iran, among other places.
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I like SimCity.
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Some city's great.
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But I don't like nation building.
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No, no.
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City building.
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Or a rollercoaster park.
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Do you have a tycoon?
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Sure, I'll do that.
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Are you an Iranian regime tycoon?
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I'd love to send that over there.
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Sure.
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So you might be surprised to hear Alex Jones' take on John Bolton.
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I'm not surprised by anything.
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Nah.
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Because they're all just bullshit artists now.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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We got Roger Stone popping in to give us his take on Donald Trump's new national security advisor.
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Mr. Bolton, who a lot of people really don't like, including myself, because he still pushes the failed Iraq war and other things like that.
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But the word is on Bolton, he knows all the connections, he knows all the players in the State Department, in the UN, in the Pentagon, and that he will be an apparatchik or a tool.
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A effective munchkin, to use his words, to carry out the policies that the president wants carried out, and then he won't sit there and leak information.
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Cool, cool, cool.
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So this is just Roger Stone telling Alex, like, alright, here's the talking point, and Alex running with it.
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That's basically what's going on.
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When will people realize that the person leaking the information is the guy that some of the country elected as president?
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He's the one that he can't stop telling his friends everything, and that's how the information's getting out.
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Yeah, it seems like that might be part of the game.
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Yeah.
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You know, hey, why don't you tell people this, and then I'll complain about somebody telling people this.
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And then we can change the news cycle instead of things that are legit.
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Exactly.
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There'll be sort of palace intrigue and who's snitching on who games being played instead of important issues.
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So you'll notice Alex uses the word apparatchik in there.
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I did.
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I don't know what that means.
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Basically, it's just a functionary, a tool, like I use you as an instrument of my will.
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And it's only interesting because it's a word that's very specific, and Alex uses it later when talking with Roger Stone.
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It's clear that...
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That's a Roger Stone word.
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He's just repeating.
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But be that as it may.
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I don't mind that.
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I feel like the president should use people that way.
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Like, bring people that have strengths to use them in their apparatchik ways.
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Sure.
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But that's not what's going to go on.
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That's not what's going to happen.
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It's going to be a disaster.
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Because Halliburton needs more money.
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But that also might be what Trump's agenda is.
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And Alex's might be blissfully...
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Obtuse about that.
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He might be willingly obtuse about the idea that like, oh wait, he's bringing this guy in to get his thing done.
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If you're bringing in John Bolton, it's pretty clear what your thing is.
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But, you know, hey, McMaster is a leaker.
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He's leaking stuff.
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And in this next clip, Alex explains how McMaster sealed his own fate.
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The fact that the word is he's the leaker on...
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Chief of Staff Kelly saying, don't congratulate Putin.
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And then Trump, being president again, going and doing what he wants to.
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Obama congratulated Putin on his election.
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You can argue he keeps himself in state power, media power, political power, so people believe in him and vote for him.
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But they don't call the Communist Chinese dictator a dictator when he is appointed by the Communist Party and now for life.
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He had them make him a dictator.
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And even strip their powers.
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So the media won't call him a dictator.
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Cover of all the papers this weekend when his vice president became co-dictator.
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They said, oh, he was elected.
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And you'd read the whole article, I'll never tell you, by the Politburo.
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By the Central Committee.
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So, little things like that get in my head.
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It's not about defending Putin or saying he's perfect.
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I'm just...
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Tired of the lies.
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Vladimir Putin is not a dictator.
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A strong man, yes.
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A loved strongman.
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Had to throw that in at the end.
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Would he have been saying this two years ago?
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What do you mean?
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About Putin.
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Yeah, two years ago, yeah, because he was still super pro-Putin.
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Maybe five years ago?
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No.
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I do not believe so.
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But pre-Trump, he was pro-Putin.
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Well, in our 2015 investigation into why Alex joined Team Trump, we found concurrent...
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Very strong pro-Putin sentiments.
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And I'm not sure where they came from, because he was pretty russophobic for quite a while.
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And I'm saying that Obama congratulated Putin.
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He did, privately.
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Yes.
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But also, that was in 2012.
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That was a very different time.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
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The world was a little bit different.
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There wasn't the whole Crimean crisis happening yet.
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There wasn't very clear evidence of hacking elections and what have you.
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Yeah.
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So that kind of falls flat.
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And the game of like, hey, why doesn't anyone call the Chinese guy a dictator?
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Why you gotta point the finger?
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Like, well, we can point the finger at both.
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We can do that.
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We can say that.
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Sure.
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I got no problem with it.
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I'll do it right now.
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Point.
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Hope you're watching, both of you.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Putin and Xi Jinping.
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Look at that!
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I'm not that informed.
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So, in this next clip...
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We can get to something that you are a little bit informed.
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Should I start yelling?
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I feel like I should start yelling.
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You can yell at any point you like, but...
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What am I doing?
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Oh, no.
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Now Jordan's going to think that's an impression.
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Yeah, it is.
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Oh, boy.
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Of you.
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Now we're going to get to something that is a little more familiar to you, and that is Alex is mad about some comedy figures.
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Oh, no.
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Because...
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He thinks that they're coming at him inappropriately.
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I don't know.
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We'll see what you think about it.
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There's been a new sickening attack by Stephen Colbert and the main star, stupid Hollywood term, of Silicon Valley.
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Misrepresenting what I said about Silicon Valley.
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What I said, I think I even went shooting with that guy once.
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With Mike Judge.
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I think I met that guy.
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As if I was attacking him personally.
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I thought he meant Thomas Middleton.
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Thomas Middleton.
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Middle Ditch.
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That's even a real name.
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It is.
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I was pointing out that the cover of the magazine talking about the triumph of beta males was globalist propaganda.
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So again, they always just turn everything around that, oh, I'm attacking the poor actor.
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No, I was attacking the push of beta males.
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Okay.
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So there was a magazine cover with the cast of Silicon Valley on it.
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Vanity Fair, I believe.
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And Alex says it's real stuck up in his crawl because he believes that it has to do with making it cool that dudes are becoming pussies, as he would say.
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And Thomas Middleditch went on Colbert and they kind of made fun of that idea.
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Alex is furious.
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He's going to talk more about this so we can leave that aside for now.
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Unless you have any immediate responses.
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Well, I just know he's very anti-Jordan Klepper.
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I heard some of that.
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He doesn't like being made fun of, sounds like.
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He's a little sensitive.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there's no doubt about that.
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But what's interesting to me that I find the most fascinating is that whenever he gets made fun of, he creates a fake version of what people are making fun of and then gets mad about that.
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Yeah.
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Instead of just being like, you hurt my feelings, which is really what he's manifesting.
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Sure.
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There's just a childish wah to it.
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But I don't know.
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Do you think Thomas Middleditch is a fake name?
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No.
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No, I don't.
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I don't know why you would pick that if that's your name.
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I checked his IMDB page, his Wikipedia page.
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It says his name is Thomas Middleditch.
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Yeah.
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I know that he came up in Chicago and that was his name when he was here.
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Yeah.
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Before he was on TV.
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I don't know.
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I got a strong feeling that that may be his real name.
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It seems like all indications are that his name is actually...
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Well, what is it with Chicago people making fun of Alex Jones?
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You got Klepper came out of Chicago.
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I didn't know that.
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Colbert came out of Chicago.
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You got Middle Ditch, Dan Friesen, Jordan Holmes.
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I think we have an aversion to bullshit.
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Yeah?
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And Alex is one of the larger voices of bullshit.
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We just can't take it.
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I've been meaning to ask you what your take was on the opposition with Jordan Klepper, because he's not doing exactly what you're doing, but he's sort of mocking some of the people that you're mocking and whatnot.
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Yeah, I think that it's hit and miss, as any of those types of shows are, with the satire that they're doing.
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Tim Balz is very funny.
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I haven't seen much of him on there, but I do love his work.
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I think that there's some pieces that hit and some that kind of missed the point.
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But I think generally, I don't know if there's enough to make a show out of necessarily without getting a little stale.
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Because a lot of the desk pieces that I've seen that have been posted as YouTube videos, I'm like, eh, right.
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I get the game that's going on.
► 00:17:39
You can make fun of him yelling a bit.
► 00:17:41
I think, too, that you open up the possibility of playing into his hands a tiny bit.
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Okay.
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Because when you have a dedicated show on Comedy Central that's about him, he's got to be like, they're dedicating millions of dollars to attacking me.
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I must be right.
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Sure.
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That sort of thing.
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Oh, wow.
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I didn't think about it that way.
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There's a complicated...
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There's a weird way that Alex's brain works that I think a lot of people don't understand.
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And I think the most scathing attack that can come at him is from a bedroom.
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Quite frankly.
► 00:18:18
I think that that's...
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Because we don't have any...
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We don't have Comedy Central money behind us.
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Not yet.
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No Soros money or anything like that.
► 00:18:26
This is just...
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Wait, hold on.
► 00:18:27
I was told I was getting a check from George Soros to be on the show.
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No, no, no.
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Should I have not brought that up?
► 00:18:32
No, no.
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You're getting a George Foreman check.
► 00:18:34
Oh, that's fun.
► 00:18:35
You're getting a Foreman grill.
► 00:18:36
But it's signed to his son.
► 00:18:38
We get a care package from George...
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That would be really fun.
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Yeah.
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I'd take a grill to get all the juices out of my meat.
► 00:18:47
Yeah.
► 00:18:48
So we get, in this next clip, we get a little bit more insight into the Bolton narrative.
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And we see clearly that it's coming from Roger Stone.
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And then we also get a little bit of insight into Roger Stone's relationship with John Bolton.
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Well, what about Roger?
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Do you think Roger Stone's going down?
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We'll get to that in a minute.
► 00:19:08
Okay, very good.
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Roger Stone, who's friends with the new National Security Advisor, good friends with him.
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They drink whiskey and play poker together for 30 years.
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So he'll be giving us his take on him.
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He likes Bolton.
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And he says Bolton is an apparatchik, and that means he will follow Trump's orders and will not leak and is dog-like in his loyalty.
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So that's the case, even though I disagree with some of Boyle's views, that I trust the president.
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So he mentions Boyle there.
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That's another guy he has on...
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Do I spell apparatchik right?
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Not even close, I don't believe.
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He has a guy on Francis Boyle, who's a professor, who's anti-Bolton.
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And they talk about Bolton for a little bit, but then Alex sort of...
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It just keeps repeating Roger Stone's kind of line.
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Okay.
► 00:19:57
And then they decide, like, yeah, fuck it, let's just talk about how we both don't like Hillary Clinton.
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Oh, yay!
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It's kind of in the tables.
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Yeah, it's kind of a disaster.
► 00:20:05
But then you have this, Roger says he's an apparatchik, which just gets back to, like, oh, this is where the narrative's coming from.
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It didn't have a T. What's up?
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Apparatchit.
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Oh.
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Interesting.
► 00:20:17
I guess so.
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Sorry.
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All right.
► 00:20:19
Well, that's news to all of us.
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And then, where does the narrative come from?
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Roger Stone, who drinks whiskey and plays poker with John Bolton for the last 30 years.
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Yeah, he's an honest guy.
► 00:20:31
Yeah, seems like he'd be a very unbiased source of, like, a character reference for this crazy warmonger.
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Anytime anyone thinks something bad about Dan, just come talk to me and I'll probably agree with you.
► 00:20:43
Well, no, come talk to you in 20 years.
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If we're still friends and still...
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Well, I guess we haven't played poker in a while, but...
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I don't enjoy your style of poker playing.
► 00:20:53
It's fun!
► 00:20:53
That might be why we haven't played poker in a while.
► 00:20:55
I'm chaotic.
► 00:20:56
I play every hand!
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I don't play every hand, I'm just chaotic.
► 00:21:00
You play most hands.
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I mostly play bad hands.
► 00:21:03
I don't have any interest in, like, a...
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Like the goddamn Joker out there playing hands.
► 00:21:07
I don't have any interest in, like, a Queen-10, but you give me a 2-5.
► 00:21:11
We're talking a sneak attack, baby.
► 00:21:14
I hate it.
► 00:21:14
I hate anyone that goes all in on the first hand of a $10 game.
► 00:21:17
I don't think I do that.
► 00:21:19
Burroughs does.
► 00:21:20
Oh, okay.
► 00:21:20
That's a complaint directed to Nate Burroughs.
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If you're watching Nate Burroughs, fucking stop it.
► 00:21:26
Yeah, sure.
► 00:21:27
I'm sure he's watching.
► 00:21:28
So, in this next clip, this weekend, they had the March for Our Lives.
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They did!
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A very successful march around the country.
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Tons and tons of people came out to protest.
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For gun regulations and what have you.
► 00:21:43
To be fair, I should let everyone know I am an NRA member.
► 00:21:48
Oh boy.
► 00:21:50
If that guy would have had a gun, no one would know who those kids are.
► 00:21:53
Did you hear that?
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Yeah, I heard that argument, which is kind of callous.
► 00:21:57
A little bit rough to hear.
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I think that the gun question is becoming a little bit muddied.
► 00:22:07
I'm strongly in favor of what these kids are pushing for and what have you.
► 00:22:12
But I think it's very easy to get the perception that everybody wants all guns destroyed or all guns confiscated.
► 00:22:18
And I don't believe that that's necessarily the conversation that's happening.
► 00:22:22
Who wants that?
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I think that people on...
► 00:22:25
Some people on Twitter think that that's the conversation that's happening.
► 00:22:29
That's their way of pushing instead of actually having a conversation.
► 00:22:32
That's their way of pushing back on it.
► 00:22:34
Right, right.
► 00:22:35
Just last year when the Democrats had all their debates, no one ever said, let's get rid of all guns.
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They're like, gun reform's fine.
► 00:22:43
No, no.
► 00:22:44
We still honor the Second Amendment.
► 00:22:46
Right, and the thing is, interpretations that have been done by even the Supreme Court about the Second Amendment have said clearly that the Second Amendment does allow for...
► 00:22:56
Some regulation that could happen.
► 00:22:59
You know, regulating what appropriate sales of guns are and shit like that.
► 00:23:03
Let's put Warren G. on this.
► 00:23:04
He knows how to regulate.
► 00:23:05
Oh, yeah, he does.
► 00:23:06
Get Nate Dogg.
► 00:23:07
Wait, can't.
► 00:23:08
Rest in peace.
► 00:23:10
Nate Dogg.
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Sorry, bud.
► 00:23:11
So, anyway, Alex is really mad at David Hogg, in particular, in this episode.
► 00:23:17
And here's a really funny clip where he complains about David Hogg, and then where it goes is fun.
► 00:23:25
David Hogg doesn't get attention anymore.
► 00:23:27
So he's running around and tirades, cussing, all of this, saying horrible things about me.
► 00:23:32
You name it, we've got those clips coming up.
► 00:23:34
And I think he's just a wonderful person and a hero.
► 00:23:37
I'm not going to say anything bad about him because CNN says I'll have my free speech taken.
► 00:23:41
I'm not allowed to criticize grown young men in a man's world cussing at people and shooting their mouths off.
► 00:23:47
But we're going to play those clips coming up.
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And I think he has his free speech.
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I don't.
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I agree with him.
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And I want to thank him for teaching me in America how we should behave.
► 00:23:56
Thank you, David.
► 00:23:58
Now, before we go any further, we have a huge sale on Supermail Vitality.
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It's so funny to me that he pivots to an ad for Supermail after complaining about how a high schooler is treating him.
► 00:24:14
If that's what your fucking stuff does, if that's what your supplements do for you, that's the level of strength you can get to, then sign me up.
► 00:24:25
Yeah.
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God damn it.
► 00:24:26
That is a mess.
► 00:24:27
Also, I love the presentation at the beginning of that.
► 00:24:30
That's like, he's not getting attention anymore, so he's got to lash out at me.
► 00:24:37
Legitimately, that march was overflowing streets.
► 00:24:40
Yes.
► 00:24:41
And that's not just him.
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No.
► 00:24:45
And he's going to keep getting attention while we do nothing.
► 00:24:48
It's just, they're not going away.
► 00:24:49
That girl's going to have long hair by the time shit gets done.
► 00:24:52
Yeah, yeah.
► 00:24:53
The other thing, too, that's really funny is he's like, Why is David Hogg swearing?
► 00:25:01
Like, we've had these clips that Alex has done where he just, You goddamn motherfuckers!
► 00:25:07
He apologizes afterwards.
► 00:25:10
He understands that it's not appropriate to cuss.
► 00:25:13
He plays a clip of David Hogg being interviewed at a dinner table.
► 00:25:16
It's not a professional operation at all.
► 00:25:19
And he's just saying, these people don't give a shit.
► 00:25:22
It's conversational swearing as opposed to Alex's eight-year-old who just learned about the word fuck.
► 00:25:30
He's screaming it over the...
► 00:25:31
You fuckity fuck fucks!
► 00:25:33
And stuff like that.
► 00:25:35
If David Hogg had been doing that, I'd get some criticism.
► 00:25:38
But he's just...
► 00:25:39
Swearing like a human swears.
► 00:25:41
I don't understand.
► 00:25:42
I feel like that's a thing that I don't want to put Christians on blast or like moral.
► 00:25:46
The people that think they're the morality police, they're like, oh, I can't believe you would talk that way.
► 00:25:51
I can't believe you would do this.
► 00:25:52
Yet you allow other people to get away with the worst things in the world.
► 00:25:58
I'm just talking Trump, basically, with the prostitutes and all that kind of stuff.
► 00:26:04
Weirdly enough, I'm not that bothered by the fact that if he got it, he got it, or whatever.
► 00:26:10
But don't come at me like you're a great person, and you're a moral person, and yet you're cool with that going down.
► 00:26:16
So I don't even think there's a moral aspect to it.
► 00:26:18
I think that paying people off, and then lying about, that's more of...
► 00:26:25
But why is he paying them off?
► 00:26:27
Because he didn't want the evangelicals or whatever to think different of him.
► 00:26:31
Or...
► 00:26:32
But now, there seemed to be cool with it.
► 00:26:34
Right.
► 00:26:34
Which makes no sense as a person that grew up in that kind of a church.
► 00:26:38
No, things have changed.
► 00:26:39
Yes.
► 00:26:40
But, earlier...
► 00:26:42
I apologize for derailing the show.
► 00:26:44
No, no, that was on the rails.
► 00:26:46
That was still on the rails.
► 00:26:47
I was just trying to weave back onto the clip train.
► 00:26:52
So, this next clip, we get back to...
► 00:26:55
The Thomas Middleditch beta male narrative.
► 00:26:59
And Alex is going to try and explain what he's actually talking about.
► 00:27:04
Does he also get the joke that computer stuff comes out in beta beforehand?
► 00:27:08
No.
► 00:27:09
Kumail Nanjiani put an album out called Beta Male years ago.
► 00:27:12
He doesn't get that stuff at all.
► 00:27:14
That's the joke.
► 00:27:15
If you understand Brave New World, you understand why I talked about the cover of the Hollywood Reporter magazine, The Triumph of Beta Males, a few weeks ago.
► 00:27:25
And they made fun of that with the main star of Silicon Valley.
► 00:27:33
And it's amazing that I didn't attack him personally.
► 00:27:40
I know Mike Judge.
► 00:27:41
In fact, I met that guy South by Southwest four years ago.
► 00:27:45
I've been shooting with basically the whole cast that goes back to the beginning.
► 00:27:49
I've told you that.
► 00:27:50
There's videos and photos of it.
► 00:27:51
The point is that, and we're going to Roger Stone here in one minute.
► 00:27:55
The point I'm getting at here is, that's how they turn this whole thing around.
► 00:28:00
They're pushing beta male, they're pushing the end of the family, they're pushing soy boys, the sperm count's dropping, the testosterone's dropping, everybody's getting cancer, women are getting cancer, women are hyper-feminized, men are feminized.
► 00:28:13
It's an agenda.
► 00:28:15
And then instead of me going, oh look, Hollywood Reporter, instead of them saying, oh, Jones criticized the push by the government, For beta males.
► 00:28:26
And by the UN and UNESCO.
► 00:28:29
Oh, that's what it is.
► 00:28:30
They turn around and say, oh, he attacked you as a person, saying you're a beta male, so that men that feel like beta males think I'm attacking them.
► 00:28:39
And they point out on the show, we're not beta males.
► 00:28:43
Well, no, I know that.
► 00:28:44
I said they have alpha males pose as beta males to make that cool.
► 00:28:48
So they, again, misrepresent everything I said.
► 00:28:50
Can you guys pull up the actual cover?
► 00:28:52
Just type in Hollywood Reporter.
► 00:28:54
The triumph of the beta mail.
► 00:28:57
We had articles at Infowars.com.
► 00:29:00
Just type in Infowars.com after it and then put triumph of the beta mail.
► 00:29:07
Watson's headline was Hollywood Reporter Celebrates the Triumph of the Beta Mail.
► 00:29:13
If radio listeners want to see it.
► 00:29:14
There it is.
► 00:29:15
Good job.
► 00:29:15
Thank you.
► 00:29:16
New Hollywood Reporter Covers Celebrities Triumph of the Beta Mail.
► 00:29:21
And then it is a, not even subliminal, of gay men, that's the image of it, I'm not saying they're gay men, stacking.
► 00:29:28
What?
► 00:29:29
Where they're all putting their hand in their pocket behind each other.
► 00:29:32
What?
► 00:29:33
I guess they have a, what's the name of that?
► 00:29:37
Hollywood bombards you with so much of this stuff, I even know the factoid name of it.
► 00:29:40
It's called the, well, I'm not going to say it on air.
► 00:29:43
So it's all in your face.
► 00:29:46
Okay.
► 00:29:46
All right.
► 00:29:47
Stacking.
► 00:29:48
Interesting analysis.
► 00:29:49
Yeah.
► 00:29:50
I think what he's trying to come up with is either a daisy chain or a human centipede situation.
► 00:29:55
Oh, boy.
► 00:29:55
But I don't think it's the latter.
► 00:29:57
I want to see Kumail Nanjiani eating out Martin Starr while Zach Woods eats his butt out.
► 00:30:05
That's interesting gay panic.
► 00:30:08
Yeah, that came out of nowhere.
► 00:30:09
I think it's just because their hands are in the person in front of them's pocket.
► 00:30:14
Oh, okay.
► 00:30:15
And the stacking of the setup.
► 00:30:19
I don't think that that's necessarily...
► 00:30:22
By the way, guys, if you're watching this live, check out Silicon Valley tonight on HBO, 10 o 'clock.
► 00:30:27
Do you think this is buzz marketing Alex is doing?
► 00:30:29
I don't know, maybe.
► 00:30:30
He's getting a little bit under the table from HBO to buzz market.
► 00:30:33
Has he been talking?
► 00:30:33
Are you talking about Barry at all?
► 00:30:35
I don't believe so.
► 00:30:36
Is that another show?
► 00:30:38
Yeah, it's...
► 00:30:38
What's his name?
► 00:30:39
He's from SNL.
► 00:30:41
Did Stefan.
► 00:30:42
Bill Hader?
► 00:30:43
Oh, yeah.
► 00:30:44
He's been on every TV show.
► 00:30:46
I'm surprised he's not been on InfoWars talking about it.
► 00:30:48
He's everywhere.
► 00:30:48
There have been some very strange guests in the past.
► 00:30:50
It wouldn't surprise me too terribly.
► 00:30:53
I don't understand.
► 00:30:54
What don't you understand?
► 00:30:56
None of those guys...
► 00:30:57
If you watch the show, the whole show is they're all just kind of fucking geeks and dorks.
► 00:31:03
Yep.
► 00:31:03
So, it totally fits the whole profile.
► 00:31:06
But why would he ever watch the show?
► 00:31:08
Other than his good friend that he went shooting one time four years ago.
► 00:31:11
With the whole cast.
► 00:31:12
He apparently is friends with Mike Judge.
► 00:31:15
Or he's met Mike Judge.
► 00:31:16
No, I think they are friends.
► 00:31:17
Yeah?
► 00:31:17
Yeah, as I understand, they are actually friends.
► 00:31:20
But he said he went shooting with the whole cast.
► 00:31:21
Yeah.
► 00:31:22
I can see a T.J. Miller doing that.
► 00:31:23
I think T.J. has talked about it in the past.
► 00:31:25
So, there are kernels of truth mixed in here.
► 00:31:29
I don't know if Middle Ditch went along.
► 00:31:30
Yeah, I can see that.
► 00:31:31
The idea of Kumail going on.
► 00:31:34
No way in hell.
► 00:31:35
Or Zach Woods.
► 00:31:36
Yeah.
► 00:31:37
Zach Woods shooting with Alex Jones would be, oh God, to be a fly on the wall for that.
► 00:31:41
But definitely, TJ Miller, God rest his professional soul.
► 00:31:45
Right.
► 00:31:45
I'm sure he did that.
► 00:31:46
Yeah, that checks out.
► 00:31:48
But look, I mean, the government's trying to push beta males because they want to destroy the family.
► 00:31:54
They're trying to feminize everybody.
► 00:31:56
And give everyone cancer?
► 00:31:57
What was that all about?
► 00:31:58
We'll get back to that.
► 00:31:59
It has to do with gay frog stuff, which we're going to discuss towards the end of this episode.
► 00:32:03
But Alex Jones doesn't understand science too well.
► 00:32:07
No?
► 00:32:08
He just reads headlines of things and then decides to extrapolate them to irresponsible degrees.
► 00:32:14
And that's what he's done more.
► 00:32:17
No.
► 00:32:18
So the government's pushing beta males and they're trying to make them cool.
► 00:32:21
Thomas Middleditch.
► 00:32:22
Thomas Middleditch and Stephen Colbert, who are actually alphas pretending to be beta males.
► 00:32:29
On the show in order to make fun of Alex Jones for talking about the government's plan to push beta males through this article and headline.
► 00:32:38
It makes no sense.
► 00:32:40
I feel like Alex Jones should be a cop.
► 00:32:42
Like, the way he can just twist things around and whatnot, he's just gonna get a lot of convictions.
► 00:32:46
Oh, he'd jam people up so hard.
► 00:32:48
Yeah.
► 00:32:48
So many false convictions.
► 00:32:51
Speaking of something that's not false, Roger Stone has spoken to...
► 00:32:57
Some people he probably shouldn't have in the past.
► 00:32:59
Guccifer 2?
► 00:33:01
Well, certainly.
► 00:33:02
That article just came out.
► 00:33:03
We talked about it on our last episode, out of the Daily Beast, where they've demonstrated that Guccifer 2.0 apparently does track back to Russian intelligence.
► 00:33:15
One of the times that he signed on, he didn't mask his server and IP address, and it appears that it is actually Russian intelligence.
► 00:33:22
In the past, Roger has been like, hey!
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I talked to him.
► 00:33:27
Who gives a shit?
► 00:33:28
He's a hacker.
► 00:33:29
He's now Russian intelligence.
► 00:33:31
His tune is a little different on his appearance this day because...
► 00:33:35
He's going to jail, baby!
► 00:33:37
His position is slightly less defensible now.
► 00:33:41
Getting serious, you always have a lot of stuff on your radar.
► 00:33:44
What else are you looking at right now?
► 00:33:46
Well, there's a big move today because the Daily Beast, which is one of the least credible news organizations in the country...
► 00:33:53
I believe that they have proved that Guccifer 2.0 is a Russian hacker, which allows them to revive the headline, Trump associate Roger Stone was in touch with Russian hacker.
► 00:34:04
Anybody who will look at that exchange between Guccifer 2.0 will realize it is perfunctory.
► 00:34:10
It is innocuous.
► 00:34:11
No, no, it's you on a message board as a journalist.
► 00:34:14
We reach out to all the hackers.
► 00:34:17
We want the scoops.
► 00:34:18
It's a smear.
► 00:34:19
So the point is, my conversation with him anyway was ex post facto.
► 00:34:23
It happened long after the DNC material had been published by WikiLeaks.
► 00:34:28
This is meaningless, but it gives the left an opportunity to recycle that headline, Trump Associate Roger Stone Communicated with Russian Hacker.
► 00:34:36
It's fake news, Alex.
► 00:34:39
Well, I mean, it's not.
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It's not fake news, strictly speaking, because, I mean, if the...
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Reporting about Guccifer 2.0 is correct.
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Roger Stone did have contact with him.
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Yes.
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That is not fake news.
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That is a real headline.
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Now, what that means doesn't necessarily mean there was coordination between the two of them.
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That's not necessarily proven, but the fact that he was in contact with them and some of the messages between them did imply that there was some sort of...
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There was one message that Guccifer sent him that was like, paying you back or something like that.
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For what?
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Exactly.
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There's a lot of questions that definitely need answers now that this development has come to pass.
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And the fact that Roger's using terms like, that's ex post facto.
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Now he's trying to use legal terms about it.
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He knows he's got to protect himself a bit.
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Well, they're asking about him in the special counsel's office.
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I don't know the guy's name.
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The guy that went crazy on TV two weeks ago.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Sam?
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Whatever.
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He admitted that they asked him questions about Roger Stone.
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Oh, of course.
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Yeah.
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But that's been, I mean, Roger's been a part of the investigation for a long time.
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Because he is, I mean, I'm not pointing necessarily like a specific finger, but I'm saying that there's something going on.
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I mean, I can think of two instances where he came out the night before being like, oh, here we go, that's going to happen.
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Wasn't the night before, but yeah, it is.
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Well, Al Franken was the night before.
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Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that's not the Russian thing, but that's still kind of like a fucking setup.
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Yeah, a little bit.
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But in this next clip, we get some fun.
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So during Friday's episode, during the show, Donald Trump is going to give a speech.
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Oh.
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About the omnibus spending bill.
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Sure.
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And at the beginning of the day, Alex is convinced that Trump is going to veto it, as demonstrated in this clip.
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When President Trump starts his press conference, we'll give you the excerpts of that or go to it live, but I predict he's going to say there's some good things in the omnibus spending bill, some bad things.
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But that he is not going to sign it because it doesn't have the border wall and because it has too much frivolous spending in it.
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The swamp is delivering a giant stinking mess.
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So that's his take.
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And here's his take as Trump starts speaking.
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And then we're going to get on to this ridiculous situation that took place over the last week.
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Bingo!
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He's going to shoot it down.
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Okay, so he's still going with, he's going to shoot it down.
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And as Trump keeps talking, Alex realizes, uh-oh.
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And submarines, we have submarines being built, the likes of which there's nothing anywhere in the world.
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We were just switching from the Fox News feed to the White House feed because theirs is better.
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And again, he's signaling that it's a bad bill with a bunch of pork, so he's going to shoot it down, calling it crap, but he's also signaling he might sign it just because it's got so much good stuff in it, which...
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I don't like that too much, and Rand Paul doesn't.
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We're about to find out.
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Keep going.
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But we're going to go to break.
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We're going to go to break and come back with this.
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So he's like, I need time.
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I need time.
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I got to figure out where to land on this thing.
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He's not going to veto it like I thought.
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Oh, God, I got bad information.
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I was not ready to do this live.
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It's like, why would he need to go to break?
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You don't have to go to break, right?
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He's not on a station.
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He is on a radio station, but he skips breaks all the time.
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I don't know.
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I feel like he showed some cards there.
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He was expecting a veto and it didn't happen.
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And he's like, I've got to figure out where to land on this.
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And then when he comes back, he starts playing the press conference again.
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And Trump says something that Alex should be very not into.
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And I don't know why he allowed this to not...
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Whenever something inconvenient to Alex's narratives happens, he usually just starts yelling over it and hopes people don't hear it.
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Whenever they do the debates, he'd just yell over Hillary.
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And he's like, look at this witch!
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Witch!
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So people couldn't hear what she said.
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He should have yelled over this.
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Our military equipment is the best equipment in the world.
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And one of the things you saw two days ago with Saudi Arabia and with other countries, Saudi Arabia, as an example, is buying hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our equipment.
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And we're getting very fast approvals on that.
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Therefore, as a matter of national security, I've signed this omnibus budget bill.
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He is literally saying...
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One of the considerations of signing this bill was that we're selling millions and millions of dollars of arms.
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Billions it sounded like.
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It's tough to tell.
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I thought it was a billion dollar deal.
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It sounded like he said billions.
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I gotta be honest with you, I don't think he's that smart.
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Well, but to be fair, that should be a real red flag for Alex.
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Yeah.
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That one of the considerations is...
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Billions of dollars of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, who Alex is not in favor of.
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Sure, they took down the towers.
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He doesn't think that.
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He does, but he also thinks it's our government and the deep state and what have you.
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So, Alex, I don't know why he played that.
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He doesn't address it.
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But he realizes that, like, shit, he is signing the bill.
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And so Trump keeps talking.
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And the Senate must end.
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They must end the filibuster rule and get down to work.
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We have to get a lot of great legislation approved.
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And without the filibuster rule, it'll happen just like magic.
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All right, there you go.
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And the president is right.
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He then went and signed it.
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This is just minutes ago.
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We're a few minutes behind here.
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This is the breaks.
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And I see what he's doing.
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It's pragmatic.
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He's saying, fix it.
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Because I have no way.
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I'm not a dictator.
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Now, if I have a line item veto, like many governors have, like Rick Perry had in Texas, you can go through and kill the pork.
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And I think that's something the president really should have.
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Okay.
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I don't.
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So he's just like, all right, I'm on board.
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Yeah.
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He's going to veto it.
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Bingo!
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He's going to shut it down.
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Oh, he's for it.
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I see what he's doing.
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It's actually really smart.
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That makes total sense.
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Yeah, he's got this thing.
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That's not good.
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So, what's even worse?
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Would you have rather Alex Jones come out against him?
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I don't know.
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On one level, in terms of I'm always not pulling for a redemption, because I think it's impossible at this point, but I'm always pulling for that That's got to be in the back of his head that remembers who he used to be to like, hey, hey, stand up.
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Yeah.
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Stop putting up with this shit.
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I'm always pulling for that to happen, but I know it's never going to.
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So I'm actually now more interested to see how much of his past he can retcon as he keeps accepting whatever Trump does.
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Yeah.
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Like once Trump...
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I don't know, suspends the midterm elections.
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That's not going to happen, but let's use that as an example.
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That's absolutely not going to happen.
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But if he did, Alex would be like, of course the Democrats are trying to steal all of these elections.
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He's just trying to protect America.
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That's the level of nonsense that he's capable of now.
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It'd be a lot less...
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Commercials on TV.
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I'd appreciate that.
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Yeah.
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That's one consideration.
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I'm tired of seeing what J.B. Pritzker has to do for me.
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Oh, boy.
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Yeah.
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We're all sick of that.
► 00:42:19
So, in this next clip, Alex Jones gets back to the David Hogg situation.
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How much interaction do he and Trump have now?
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I know there was a little bit during the campaign because Trump was trying to use him to get his people to vote for him.
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I'm guessing none.
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I'm guessing it's all through Roger Stone.
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Do you think Trump rolls around every four years?
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Like he'll come around if he runs in 2020?
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A hundred percent.
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Yes.
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I think he'll show up if he's running again and, you know, we're still there.
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Just be there like a happy little dog.
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Yeah.
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But I think most of the interaction, if any, is through Roger now.
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And I even have questions how much Roger is necessarily speaking to Trump.
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But I don't know.
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That's all speculation, because we can't possibly know the truth about that.
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But what I do know the truth about is that Alex is about to lie about David Hogg.
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About a child?
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We can't have it both ways.
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How old is he?
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I don't know.
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I think he's 17, 18. He's a child.
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I don't know about the idea of labeling him a child when it's convenient and treating him like an adult when it's not.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, the truth is, Alex kind of thinks he's a child, and also he has some other thoughts.
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I want to air that.
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What we'll do is we'll take calls, and at the bottom of the hour, I'm going to air the profanity-laced piece by the high school senior, who's a public figure, who calls me a piece of SH, you know what, and who calls me a scammer and a liar and a fraud, and then says he wants to debate me.
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And then says he's scared to.
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And then goes on TV and says we're scared to debate him.
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And we can dish it out, but we can't take it.
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And he's just bullying me.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah.
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Poor Alex.
► 00:44:10
Alex is getting bullied.
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You hate to hear that.
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I hate to hear it.
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You just...
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I mean, it is...
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What are you doodling there?
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Just jawing a person.
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Okay.
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Not a very pretty person.
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All right.
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I don't know.
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I think that...
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The scale of bullying is not very high.
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Not very high on the scale of bullying.
► 00:44:29
I think you also got to consider people's position.
► 00:44:33
Alex Jones being in charge of a quite large media operation.
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I think he should probably not complain about a high schooler whose friends got murdered.
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Uh-huh.
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You think?
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Saying he's a scam artist when...
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I mean, he is.
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And don't complain about him using profanity when you called Adam Schiff a cocksucker and said you were going to beat his ass when you were drunk on air.
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Don't fucking play those games.
► 00:45:01
So in this next clip, Alex wants to refine his statements that he's made about David Hogg to try and make them a little more palatable.
► 00:45:09
But in doing so, he kind of doesn't really work.
► 00:45:12
David Hogg, the poster child out of 3,000 students at Parkland.
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Where the mass shooting happened, where there were not crisis actors.
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We never said that.
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That's a huge media lie.
► 00:45:22
We said they picked four students out of 3,000 who were all in the drama club and all anti-gun and all interning and wanted to work with CNN with Democrat parents.
► 00:45:30
You think they're actors?
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They picked them as the PR people to go out with anti-gun classic talking points.
► 00:45:35
And that's a fact that it's come out that CNN's banning conservative students and giving people stage questions and all that.
► 00:45:40
So what are they going to do when they're getting caught doing that?
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Misrepresent what we said in the straw man.
► 00:45:45
Hogg has now blown up in a vicious tirade, cussing and yelling at gun owners, frothing, attacking me, you name it.
► 00:45:53
It's all coming up at the bottom of the hour.
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Tease it up, baby.
► 00:45:58
Keep watching.
► 00:45:59
It's coming up at the end of the hour.
► 00:46:01
Just a couple more of my pill commercials before we get to it, and then you'll be disappointed because it's not what I say it is.
► 00:46:07
But the thing is, when he's saying...
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People are saying that I said they were crisis actors.
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I didn't say that.
► 00:46:14
All I said is that these kids are in the drama club and they're actors and they were clearly chosen with talking points that they're being given by the powers that be who are clearly paid by Soros.
► 00:46:27
It's like, you're just describing basically what people think crisis actors are and not using the term.
► 00:46:35
So, I don't find that argument super compelling.
► 00:46:39
What?
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Come on, Dan.
► 00:46:41
You know what?
► 00:46:42
Every time this happens, Alex is turning me.
► 00:46:44
Yeah?
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You're getting flipped?
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Uh-huh.
► 00:46:46
You can tell by this lady I just drew.
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Because she thinks InfoWars is cool.
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Yay!
► 00:46:53
That's the most InfoWars positive thing that's ever happened on this podcast.
► 00:46:56
Uh-huh.
► 00:46:57
So, Alex is getting bullied.
► 00:46:59
One day I'm going to date this girl.
► 00:47:01
You can set your sights high.
► 00:47:03
I'm married, but I'll take it off for you drawing I just made.
► 00:47:08
So Alex is getting bullied by a high schooler.
► 00:47:11
That sentence alone should end the show.
► 00:47:13
Right.
► 00:47:14
How old is he?
► 00:47:15
In his 40s?
► 00:47:17
Alex is 44. Okay.
► 00:47:19
Not much older than me.
► 00:47:20
We would have ridden the same school bus as a child.
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Getting bullied by a fucking 17-year-old.
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That's crazy.
► 00:47:25
And then it gets worse.
► 00:47:26
He has another complaint.
► 00:47:27
And that is about how media operations are treating him.
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It's pretty hilarious.
► 00:47:32
How does he treat them, is my question.
► 00:47:34
Earlier, I mentioned David Hogg, who the mainstream media has continually misrepresented the facts about.
► 00:47:47
They have continued in three NPR pieces this week, on CNN this week again, on MSNBC.
► 00:47:54
So many clips that get sent to me, I can't even look at them all.
► 00:47:58
I asked some of the crew to give me transcripts saying that I said no one died and I said they were actors and I said he was from California and 24 years old.
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I didn't say that.
► 00:48:09
My crew didn't say that.
► 00:48:11
No one said that.
► 00:48:13
Then CNN, who he works with, who he wants to work for, who he's visited before the shooting ever happened, lobbies to have InfoWars shut down, lobbies to have us taken off YouTube, a competing media organization.
► 00:48:29
Interference, that's super uncivil in the courts.
► 00:48:36
When big organizations get involved, it can even be criminal.
► 00:48:39
Interesting.
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Yeah.
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That's uncivil of CNN.
► 00:48:42
Oh, no.
► 00:48:44
A couple months back, Alex Jones had Mike Cernovich on, and they started a contest where they were going to pay people thousands of dollars.
► 00:48:54
To go on CNN with CNN is ISIS signs and CNN is ISIS shirts.
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Okay.
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Talking about how we gotta take them down.
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I mean, uncivil.
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Get the fuck out of here.
► 00:49:06
Was that part of that guy who called and made the death threats?
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Was that related to that?
► 00:49:09
Oh, no.
► 00:49:09
It preceded that.
► 00:49:11
Okay.
► 00:49:12
You know, it's not necessarily one-to-one connected.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, inquiring minds are very fascinated by the connections.
► 00:49:20
Yeah.
► 00:49:21
Yeah, he had an entire contest where he was going to give out like $100,000 to people who would soy bomb CNN yelling, CNN is ISIS.
► 00:49:32
Yeah, they're complaining about...
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Allegedly, George Soros paying people to do stuff.
► 00:49:37
It is kind of interesting, isn't it?
► 00:49:38
Yeah.
► 00:49:39
Well, they're not about to do that.
► 00:49:41
They have been doing that.
► 00:49:42
Have people gotten checks?
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I think so, yeah.
► 00:49:44
I mean, he did a contest where he paid people to go on TV and interrupt Clinton rallies yelling, Bill Clinton's a rapist.
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Yeah.
► 00:49:52
And stuff like that.
► 00:49:52
He does this from time to time.
► 00:49:54
So when you talk about uncivil...
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What's the paycheck for that?
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Hmm?
► 00:49:57
How much am I getting paid to do that?
► 00:49:59
I think it's either $1,000 or $2,500, depending on what you get on TV.
► 00:50:03
I could take a couple days off from work if I got $2,500.
► 00:50:05
Yeah, it'd be pretty nice.
► 00:50:07
Yeah.
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You just got to go find live television.
► 00:50:09
Do I get arrested?
► 00:50:10
I think you might.
► 00:50:12
Yeah.
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I mean, it depends.
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Depends on what you do.
► 00:50:14
I don't think you could get arrested for just yelling that on TV.
► 00:50:17
I wonder how many people have actually gotten the money.
► 00:50:19
I feel like they don't have to pay anyone.
► 00:50:22
I know he's had people who have called in who said they got the money, but I don't know how much I trust of that.
► 00:50:27
How much of that is like...
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I don't know if you know this, but there's around the United States a lot of these radio programs.
► 00:50:33
Sure.
► 00:50:34
The calls are fake.
► 00:50:35
We've talked about that a bit.
► 00:50:36
I think most of Alex's calls are real.
► 00:50:38
Yeah.
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Just because they're so dumb.
► 00:50:40
I don't think you could specify an improv sketch actor to be this dumb.
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And right in line with Alex's beliefs.
► 00:50:53
I think most of his calls are real, if only because...
► 00:50:56
Well, first of all, you hear the same people call pretty repeatedly, and then they just mirror him back to him in a way that would be difficult to make up on the fly.
► 00:51:06
Have you ever taken calls on this show?
► 00:51:08
Not on this one, no.
► 00:51:09
I think you should do a call-in episode.
► 00:51:10
I need to get that cord.
► 00:51:13
It hooks up the phone.
► 00:51:14
My old one broke.
► 00:51:15
I got you.
► 00:51:15
But I'd be willing to do that.
► 00:51:16
I'd especially be willing to do that with people who like Alex.
► 00:51:19
Yeah.
► 00:51:19
I'd like to discuss stuff with them.
► 00:51:21
Talk it up in the chat, guys.
► 00:51:22
Make this happen.
► 00:51:22
I'm only here once every, maybe once a year, but it's up to you guys.
► 00:51:26
Do you want to talk to Dan and Jordan?
► 00:51:28
Make it happen.
► 00:51:29
I don't need them calling.
► 00:51:30
I'd rather debate people who like him.
► 00:51:31
You know you want to talk to them.
► 00:51:33
Make it a Patreon exclusive.
► 00:51:35
$500 donations.
► 00:51:36
Ooh, now you're talking.
► 00:51:37
I want to do a fundraiser.
► 00:51:40
So...
► 00:51:40
Alex uses all of everything as an opportunity for a fundraiser.
► 00:51:45
There's my smooth transition.
► 00:51:46
Look at that.
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So we're not going to play the idea...
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We're not going to play the...
► 00:51:52
Profanity-laced tirade that David Hawk goes on.
► 00:51:55
Did he just say shit?
► 00:51:56
Well, he just...
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A couple times he swears, like, these politicians don't give a fuck about us and stuff like that.
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He's not lying.
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No, and it's not a...
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I mean, I guess it is technically profanity-laced, but it just sounds like a person expressing themselves.
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And it actually, to me, is evidence that he is not a crisis actor, because if he was, people would teach him, like, don't...
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You don't want people to attack you for that.
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He'd have a much more polished media appearance.
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Is he the guy that got saved by a lifeguard and happened to be on the news or something?
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Is that that?
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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There was one of the people in Parkland who were on TV before because they got saved by a lifeguard.
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I have no idea.
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I don't know this.
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I'm resistant to all of those stories because I've looked into them in the past.
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This version of stuff from tragedies in the past.
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Yeah.
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And it's always such a stupid rabbit hole to go down.
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I just don't want to waste my time.
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Anyway, we are going to hear a little bit of David Hogg on CNN, or on C-SPAN, because I think it's important, and he brings up Alex's claim to fame.
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Okay.
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So let's go ahead and go to David Hogg on C-SPAN 2 with the editor of Axios.
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That's because...
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Politico knows they're discredited now, so they've changed the name to Axios to make it sound like they're independent.
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And he's interviewing him, asking a question, and then he gets into the gay frogs.
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Here it is.
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You're 17. You'll be 18 next month.
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You, online, were the victim of a conspiracy video attacked by this sort of InfoWars crowd.
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What was that like?
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It was wonderful.
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It was great advertising.
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It's charming.
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When individuals say these things to us, I think it's important for their viewing audience to realize they're simply trying to make money off them.
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For example, one of the main people in this situation that I don't want to name the name of, but as you said, is from Infowars.
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He shouts a lot.
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I'll just give you that hint.
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He looks red.
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He's advertising many of these things, and the power lies in these advertisers to pull out of these fear-mongering, hate-loving people that just want to spread hate and division in America.
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For example, on InfoWars, one of the main things that he spoke, one of his famous things is saying that, one of his most famous statements is saying that, Tap water is turning the frogs gay, and it'll turn you gay, too.
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First off, gay people are awesome.
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I don't think that's a problem at all.
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And secondly, if you notice at the end of that video, he advertises water filters.
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Interesting.
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Yeah, the water's poison, bro.
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Now, we can play all the scientific reports.
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We're putting one together with all the scientists about the frogs becoming gays, the term scientists use, going after males, trying to fertilize eggs that don't exist, and then the species dies.
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Okay.
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He goes on from there to do about a five-minute commercial about his water filters.
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So it sort of proves David Hogg's point.
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Wouldn't scientists use the term heterosexual or hetero something?
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You might think that they would.
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So Alex has one citation that he always uses for this.
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He brings it up a couple of times.
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There's an article out of Berkeley that he references.
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He flashes it up on screen so I can tell that it's the exact article that he's talking about.
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And in this article they found that frogs that are highly...
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Exposed to high levels of atrazine.
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That's the chemical.
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Atrazine, which is mostly a byproduct of plastics production and farm use.
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It's used as a weed killer.
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A very good weed killer.
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75% of the frogs that were exposed to high levels of atrazine end up chemically castrated.
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10% were shown to become females.
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Quote, The 10% or more that turn from males into females can successfully mate.
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With male frogs.
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But because these females are genetically male, all their offspring are male.
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Yeah.
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So that's interesting.
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It's a pretty wild thing.
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It's horrifying, yet also kind of cool.
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Yeah, and so in relation to this, a guy from Vice decided to look into it and talk to some scientists about what the ramifications of this are, if there's any reason for humans to be concerned.
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Was it a hipster guy that just kind of shows up in town?
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Probably.
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So Matt Young, a neuroscientist from the University of Nottingham, told this...
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A reporter from Vice, quote, They go on to talk about it doesn't really affect humans.
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So I looked into it a little bit more.
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I wanted to know about atrazine.
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And so I read this bit from the Centers for Disease Control.
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Quote, one of the primary ways that atrazine can affect your health is by altering the way your reproductive system works.
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"Studies of couples living on farms that use atrazine for weed control find an increase in the risk of preterm delivery.
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These studies are difficult to interpret because most of the farmers were men who may have been exposed to several types of pesticides." So it's inconclusive.
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You can draw some sort of a slight connection, but you can't really even do that.
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Atrazine has been shown to cause changes in blood hormone levels in animals that affected the ability to reproduce.
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Some of the specific effects observed in animals are not likely to occur in humans because of biological differences between humans and these types of animals.
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Atrazine also caused lymphocytes.
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liver, kidney, and heart damage in animals, it's possible that atrazine could cause these effects in humans, although this has not been examined.
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So there's some other studies that you can find that are kind of interesting because you were like, what about this cancer thing that Alex brought up earlier?
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Yeah.
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There's a study, there's a 2008 study, Lopano is the name of the person who led the research, and they found that atrazine stimulates aromatase activity in human ovarian cancer cells.
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Aromatase is an enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen and is produced by the adrenal glands and by some cancer cells.
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Cancer patients with estrogen-promoted cancers...
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Primarily breast, prostate, and ovarian cancers are treated with aromatase inhibitors, a class of drugs designed specifically to block the production of aromatase, thereby decreasing the levels of estrogen in patients.
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So Alex is trying to make the argument that aromatase, that activity is stimulated by atrazine and therefore will boost the estrogen levels in people that end up taking it.
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The problem with this...
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If you go and try and find that study, the first thing you find is that the people who made that study have retracted the study over concerns that they have that they didn't do a good enough job with the study.
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So you have a retracted study.
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You have another study that was done on people who lived on the farms that showed premature delivery that's inconclusive because they're exposed to too many other things.
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So you don't have a good control group there.
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All you have is this strange study of frogs.
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Definitely doesn't relate to humans one-to-one because frogs and fish do have some gender changing.
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Sure.
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And this isn't to say that it's good that there should be stuff in the water and stuff like that.
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So why would it mean that the frogs are turning gay?
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They change sexes.
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Right.
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And they can reproduce.
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Well, I think it's because they end up changing into males and then end up breeding with males.
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And that triggers Alex a little bit.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, because they're females internally, but I don't know.
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I don't know.
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The article doesn't say that the frogs are gay.
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It says that they change gender.
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I guess it would be sex.
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So also from the Centers for Disease Control, just in case you're worried that this is in all of our tap water.
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Well, I grew up on the farm.
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I had well water.
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I want to see what's going to happen to myself.
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Interesting.
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I was a month early, by the way.
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Uh-oh.
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Could have been natrazine.
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Could have been.
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So from the Centers for Disease Control, quote, The Environmental Protection Agency identifies the most serious hazardous waste sites in the nation.
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These sites make up the national priorities list.
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And are the sites targeted for long-term federal cleanup activities?
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Atrazine has been found at at least 20 of the 1636 current or former NPL sites.
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So that's not a very high number.
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Atrazine is taken up by all plants, but in plants not affected by the atrazine, which would be ones that aren't the weeds that it targets, it is broken down before it can have any effect on their photosynthesis.
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And therefore, it's not in the foods that come from atrazine-treated plants.
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Okay.
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So the food supply isn't a natural concern that you could be exposed to it.
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Most people are not exposed to atrazine on a regular basis.
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People living near areas where the atrazine was applied to crops may be exposed through contaminated drinking water.
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Atrazine has been found at about 20 Superfund sites.
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Those are the NPL sites in the United States.
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People living near those sites may be exposed to higher levels of atrazine.
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you're a factory worker who works with atrazine, you may be exposed to higher amounts.
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That makes sense.
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The government has estimated that approximately 1,000 people may be exposed this way.
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People who are actually damagingly or dangerously exposed to atrazine are massively over-exaggerated by Alex.
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Sure.
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And then, you know...
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Which is weird, because overall it usually tells the truth.
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And then the other thing that's even more fucked up is if you really want to talk about what, you know, the problem, the solution to it.
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You know, if there are these couple of farms, not couple of farms, there's some farms.
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20?
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Well, 20 hazardous sites, but there could be more farms that aren't nearly as polluted, but the atrazine could still affect the groundwater somehow.
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You know what would solve that?
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What's this?
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Regulation.
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Oh, no!
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That's not good!
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That's the end solution to that problem.
► 01:01:58
So anyway, this has been a long way of saying that there are some interesting things that have been documented happening.
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to frogs because of pesticide and groundwater contamination.
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But this is not at all applicable to humans and studies that have shown that have been retracted by the people who have done them because they don't think it's good science.
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Yeah.
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It does make me wonder what I drank as a child, because I did drink well water in a farming community.
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So I could have been putting pesticides and stuff inside.
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Could be mercury.
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Could be lead.
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I'm crazy about that mercury.
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Could be any of these things.
► 01:02:33
So anyway, earlier, Alex said that David Hogg is bullying him.
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Yeah.
► 01:02:38
It's interesting, because what happens next on the show?
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Because they've told him, Jones is getting ready to sue.
► 01:02:44
The law firms are lined up in D.C. He's trying to say that whenever he's like, I don't want to say his name.
► 01:02:51
That's because he's trying to protect himself from a lawsuit.
► 01:02:53
When in reality, it's just like, let's not fucking give him...
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He also mentions InfoWars.
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It's not like he stays completely over.
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No.
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But also, when the interviewer is asking him and says, like, you were the target of InfoWars-like groups, that's because it spiraled far beyond just InfoWars.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of the people who were sending him death threats weren't like Alex and Owen Schroyer.
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It was people inspired by their world.
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Anyway.
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Which they are.
► 01:03:20
I've got to go to D.C. in a couple of weeks.
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So everybody will get what they want and they'll start rolling.
► 01:03:24
Yeah, lawsuits coming.
► 01:03:25
They're like, yeah, don't say the name, dude.
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We're going to say, oh, it's Infowars, things like that, and then say things they didn't say.
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You understand?
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We're going to teach you, David, how you murder the truth.
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Axios will teach you.
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CNN will teach you.
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So we have now transferred him, you know, as a joke, fun, you know, to protect his identity.
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He is no longer David Hogg.
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He is now David Frog.
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Here it is.
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You're 17. You'll be 18 next month.
► 01:03:53
You, online, were the victim of a conspiracy video attacked by this sort of InfoWars crowd.
► 01:03:59
What was that like?
► 01:04:00
It was wonderful.
► 01:04:01
It was great.
► 01:04:02
So he just replays the CNN thing with his face blurred and that voice modulation.
► 01:04:08
Should have put a Pepe the Frog there.
► 01:04:09
That's a perfect Pepe the Frog.
► 01:04:10
No, because he's getting sued by Matt Fury, the guy who created Pepe the Frog.
► 01:04:14
Also, I thought it was just going to be like, ribbit, ribbit.
► 01:04:17
Why not?
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You're doing the David Frog.
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Go the fucking at least half mile.
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Go halfway there.
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Yeah, yeah.
► 01:04:23
Go to an encyclopedia online and get that sound clip.
► 01:04:26
And I love that he's saying that this is to be funny.
► 01:04:29
That is not funny.
► 01:04:31
It's not offensive either.
► 01:04:32
It's just nothing.
► 01:04:33
So he plays the entire thing with the voice modulator and it gets to the end and then Alex says something real stupid.
► 01:04:40
He advertises water filters.
► 01:04:43
Interesting.
► 01:04:44
Ooh, interesting.
► 01:04:46
Yeah, beer commercials show, girls in bikinis, and you're going to get girls in bikinis if you drink Bud Light.
► 01:04:53
We're going to find the woman of your dreams if you fly to Cancun with sandals commercials.
► 01:04:58
We have the highest rated spectrum, four different companies of high-quality filters, and we're saying every major tap water, almost all well water, has atrocene, it has mercury, it has Roundup.
► 01:05:11
So do you get what he's saying there?
► 01:05:13
I have a feeling that you need to buy a filter.
► 01:05:17
Well, he's accidentally pointing a finger at himself.
► 01:05:21
Yeah.
► 01:05:22
Because he's comparing his ads to beer commercials that depict a false reality to entice you into buying beer.
► 01:05:29
Leading you to believe, hey, maybe if I buy this beer, this hot girl will like me.
► 01:05:33
He is doing the same thing with, hey, maybe if I buy all of these products, I'll be safe from the onslaught of globalist attacks that are trying to get me through the water and air.
► 01:05:44
He is, I mean, this is very dumb.
► 01:05:47
Yeah.
► 01:05:47
It was very stupid.
► 01:05:48
Do they sell gift cards to the Infowars store?
► 01:05:50
I have to assume.
► 01:05:51
Because I know somebody's got a birthday coming up.
► 01:05:54
Come on, man.
► 01:05:55
Don't give me super male vitality.
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That's the last thing I need is to be like, I'm hooked.
► 01:06:01
What if it works?
► 01:06:02
I'm sure it would work.
► 01:06:04
Yeah.
► 01:06:04
In as much as it would make me feel something.
► 01:06:07
Yeah.
► 01:06:07
It would fuck with my levels.
► 01:06:10
So anyway, we talked about the atrazine and stuff.
► 01:06:13
Here's Alex just lying a little more about that.
► 01:06:15
Cool.
► 01:06:15
And my baby gets filtered water.
► 01:06:18
So yes, I'm saying our tap water is highly contaminated.
► 01:06:21
Can we put the Berkeley study up about making frog skate, please?
► 01:06:24
Nope.
► 01:06:24
Because it actually makes them want males.
► 01:06:26
They go and try to fertilize other males.
► 01:06:28
There it is.
► 01:06:28
Pesticide atrazine can turn male frogs into females.
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Okay?
► 01:06:33
So, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
► 01:06:36
And then we have the scientist saying it literally makes them gay.
► 01:06:39
And atrazine does the same thing to male humans.
► 01:06:42
Now, that is a fact.
► 01:06:43
It's not.
► 01:06:44
No.
► 01:06:45
It's not.
► 01:06:45
All he has is that Berkeley study, and it doesn't say that.
► 01:06:50
So anyway...
► 01:06:51
No one digs deep, Dan.
► 01:06:52
All you gotta do is read a tweet from the president and be like, well, he said it.
► 01:06:55
It's gotta be true.
► 01:06:56
Just read a headline, and you're golden.
► 01:06:59
You're good to go.
► 01:07:01
So we have one more clip here.
► 01:07:04
It's a little bit longer, because it's Alex getting mad about comedy again.
► 01:07:08
He gets back to middle-ditch at the end here.
► 01:07:10
And I want you to watch for how...
► 01:07:14
He selectively edits the appearance of Middle Ditch on Colbert's show.
► 01:07:20
Alex gets very mad when the media edits his clips and makes it seem like he's saying something he didn't say.
► 01:07:28
And watch him do the exact same thing to this Colbert show clip.
► 01:07:34
We have a clip where he had the main guy from Silicon Valley on, and they're implying that I'm attacking him as being a beta male.
► 01:07:44
But he was on the cover of a magazine celebrating the triumph of the beta male.
► 01:07:47
And I wasn't even saying the cast was bad or he was bad or that Mike Judge, my good friend, is bad.
► 01:07:52
I know a lot of the cast have been shooting with him and out with him.
► 01:07:54
So he brings that up a lot.
► 01:07:55
Mike's invited me out when they're in Austin.
► 01:07:58
Why is he obsessed with that?
► 01:08:07
No, they're pushing beta male.
► 01:08:09
They're saying toxic masculinity is bad.
► 01:08:10
It is.
► 01:08:11
The family's bad.
► 01:08:13
Trudeau in Canada wants to ban the word mother.
► 01:08:15
I should have left the show with that.
► 01:08:17
He doesn't want to ban the word mother.
► 01:08:18
No?
► 01:08:19
No.
► 01:08:19
I feel bad for dancing fans.
► 01:08:21
Oh, man.
► 01:08:22
That song is never going to play again.
► 01:08:25
Tell your children not to walk my way.
► 01:08:29
He, Trudeau, I don't even know if it came directly from him, but the Canadian government was trying to get people to use gender-neutral words whenever it would be appropriate.
► 01:08:40
Okay.
► 01:08:40
You know, parent instead of mother or father, just to be nonspecific about it.
► 01:08:45
And who cares?
► 01:08:47
Yeah.
► 01:08:49
They're telling government agencies don't use the word mother.
► 01:08:53
Someone else might not have a mother, so it's hurtful.
► 01:08:56
That's not why.
► 01:08:58
So let's go ahead and play just a few excerpts of the show with Stephen Colbert last night.
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Here it is.
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It's ruffled some feathers.
► 01:09:06
I know.
► 01:09:07
I've heard.
► 01:09:07
I've heard the legends.
► 01:09:08
Yeah, that the beta males are taking over.
► 01:09:11
You know who Alex Jones is, right?
► 01:09:12
Of course.
► 01:09:13
Alex Jones said this.
► 01:09:14
The alt-right feels threatened.
► 01:09:16
He says, Alex Jones said, The globalists are teaching us to turn off our life force.
► 01:09:21
It's a camouflage so the alpha males that are still left don't notice they're being taken control of.
► 01:09:27
I'm being enslaved.
► 01:09:29
Yeah.
► 01:09:30
Is this true?
► 01:09:31
Is this true?
► 01:09:31
Are you enslaving the alpha males?
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Because, you know, I consider myself a bit of an alpha male.
► 01:09:36
Oh, really?
► 01:09:37
So do I, Stephen.
► 01:09:38
Oh, do you really?
► 01:09:39
Yeah, I go to bed in full plaid eating a cheeseburger and shooting a gun.
► 01:09:43
Oh, really?
► 01:09:44
Yeah.
► 01:09:45
I can go to bed in camo.
► 01:09:46
You can't even find me.
► 01:09:48
I mean, I remember when, well, I guess they didn't, maybe they announced it when I heard Google was...
► 01:09:53
Right there, they cut.
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Because after that, he says, actually, I'm a theta male.
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I'm cucking the cucks.
► 01:10:01
He has even more on that riff, and he just jumps.
► 01:10:05
Alex just cut it, so it went to a completely different conversation, so it sounds like it makes no sense.
► 01:10:10
Listen.
► 01:10:11
Essentially catering your searches based on algorithms.
► 01:10:15
We would search the same thing, and we would potentially get different results based on our previous searches, right?
► 01:10:21
It's all the aggregation of the Internet.
► 01:10:22
It's like the worst thing to have happened.
► 01:10:25
It's like, how can you control elections with bots and minions to, like, create trends when they don't even exist?
► 01:10:33
That didn't surprise me, although, to be honest, I'm happy it's out there, so maybe people can take the red pill and get woke!
► 01:10:40
It's documented!
► 01:10:42
We got aliens!
► 01:10:43
You're an alien!
► 01:10:43
I'm an alien!
► 01:10:44
That's our part of the Illuminati!
► 01:10:45
Buy my protein powder!
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I'm in.
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I'll buy it.
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I'll buy it.
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Well, Thomas, thanks for being here.
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Thanks.
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Nice to see you again.
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So, that's a nightly basis.
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And notice, Hogg this morning, Jones claims there's chemicals in the water not making us masculine on C-SPAN.
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They are so worried about that because it's a fact?
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No.
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It's because of the terrifying underlying assumptions.
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There's things underneath the statements, especially about the idea of...
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You know, this thing that they are putting in the water.
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That's the first thing.
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When in reality, it's from runoff of farms and industrial waste and that sort of thing.
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That's really the place where it comes in.
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It's not like there's a mass of globalists who are just trying to poison the groundwater like it's Batman Begins or some shit.
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Then the second part is, if we go along for the ride of this assumption, it is that...
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They're inducing homosexuality in people.
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And Alex seems to be saying, my products will help fight back against that to some extent.
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And there's an uncomfortable underlying piece there, I believe.
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Yeah.
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If I stop using my Brita...
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I'm going to start sucking dick.
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Is that what that means?
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That's a possible thing you could take away from it.
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Actually, I don't think he endorses Britta.
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No?
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You need a, I don't even remember, Aqua Pure, or whatever his brand is, because you need the double distilled.
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I don't even...
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I will put this out there.
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I've said it before.
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I'll say it again.
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I am more than happy to suck a dick if I love the person.
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And I'm talking romantically, not as, like, friends.
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I like that you're doing that to the camera.
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Yeah.
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Doing a take.
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I don't want him to think that I'm homophobic.
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I would easily suck a dick if I was romantically in love with someone.
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Spectacular.
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So, you got that?
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He edited that clip in order to make it look like it just jumps to nonsense about trends and Google searches.
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But if you're watching the video, you could tell it was edited, right?
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Probably, yeah.
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I think that most people maybe don't pay attention to it, though.
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They do like a flash or something?
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Yeah.
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So, in this last clip, Alex ruminates on their interview and ends the show the way he always does.
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They just think they can laugh about it all and then celebrate that men are these effeminate, cowardly, chicken-neck creatures and then make them love it.
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And when I'm warning males this is happening, make the choice whether you want to be like this or not.
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They want to make themselves victims and say that I'm just attacking them because they look like a beta male.
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But no, those two guys are not beta males.
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They're alpha males that sold out to the globalists, clearly.
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Now, InfoWarsStore.com, InfoWarsLife.com.
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Huge discounts on water filtration, air filtration just so happens running this week.
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Oh, what a coincidence.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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What?
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So anyway, that brings us to the end of February the 23rd of March.
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Okay.
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I feel like based on your doodling throughout, you didn't enjoy this all that much.
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I disagree.
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Okay.
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Just because I do doesn't mean that I wasn't listening.
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I wasn't suggesting you weren't listening, but I'm just self-conscious.
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I always feel bad when I have to bring someone else into this world of unpleasantness.
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It's Alexa Jones.
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Sure.
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I was thinking, I don't know if people would want to buy this.
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Yeah, sure.
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I think either we should put it on a t-shirt.
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Okay.
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Or sell the original print.
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I think that's the best way to go about it.
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$500 Patreon.
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Okay.
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Half of it goes to this podcast, half of it goes to the artist, me.
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I'd be happy to sign it.
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I'd be happy to record a podcast about why I drew it.
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Oh, that'd be good.
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Yeah, don't screenshot it.
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Just have it.
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No, that's dirty pool.
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Pay your $500 like a good American person would.
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Amen.
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I am not.
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I want to say this.
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I told you before we went to air, and I might have said it on the podcast, I normally leave here sad.
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I'm not sad today.
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No, because it was all just stupid.
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Yeah, and that's fine.
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That's somewhat tolerable.
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But anyway, people can follow you at TheMattRiggs on Twitter.
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I am at TheMattRiggs on Twitter.
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Also, I have a fun podcast called 30 Characters.
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It comes out once a month, but we'll be doing more of them.
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That's at TheMattRiggsShow.com?
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No, that podcast, that's no longer around.
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I thought that was just your go-to website.
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No, TheMattRiggs.com is now my website.
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Oh, take the show off.
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But 30 Characters, you can get it at the bad news good times.
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It's very convoluted.
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Just follow me on Twitter at TheMattRiggs.
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Find everything you need.
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If you're from the show, We do a show at the Laugh Factory once a month, Actual Murders.
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It's at 7 o 'clock.
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If you want to come, email actualmurders at gmail.com.
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We'll get you in for free.
► 01:15:31
Nice comps.
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Just got to buy two drinks.
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We're not buying your drinks.
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We are at knowledgefight.com.
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That's our website.
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You can check us out there.
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You can also follow us at knowledge underscore fight.
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We're on Facebook.
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You can find us there.
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Knowledge Fight was already taken.
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No, yeah, yeah, it was actually.
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Okay.
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And then Knowledge Fight 69 is too many characters.
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Sure.
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So also we're on iTunes, what have you.
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Good times.
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Riggs, this has been fun.
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Thanks for coming.
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It's been a lot of fun.
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Generally, at the end of these episodes, we tell someone to go fuck themselves.
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That's what we do on my podcast.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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We've been telling the whole crew to fuck.
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You ripped us off.
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That's actually on Bad News Good Time, which we don't do anymore.
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To be fair, it grew out of us telling one specific guy to fuck himself at the end of every episode.
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All right.
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And then now we've decided to give him a break, and now we switch it.
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And as the fill-in, Jordan, I feel like I should give you the honors of who from today's conversation would you like to tell to fuck themselves?
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Before I do that, I do want to point out I don't like the Red Sox.
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I just got this shirt for cheap.
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Fair enough.
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People won't hold it against you.
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I do like this hat.
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Anyway, I'm sure he's been told many times before.
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David Hogan.
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No.
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Whoa!
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I'm kidding.
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I gotta go with our boy that's gonna go to jail soon.
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Roger Stone.
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Roger Stone.
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You can go fuck yourself.
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Fuck off, Roger Stone.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.