Today, Dan and Jordan enter the part of their Endgame coverage where both of them start to lose patience with Alex Jones' silly games, almost reaching their breaking point before a pizza arrives toward the end of this episode and gave them their second wind.
| Speaker | Time | Text |
|---|---|---|
| Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I am Dan. | ||
| The other voice you will hear in just a moment is my co-host and dear friend, Jordan. | ||
| And this, you have joined us today for the third installment of our coverage of Alex Jones' documentary, in heavy quotes, Endgame. | ||
| And, you know, this thing is a pile of garbage. | ||
| It absolutely wouldn't pass muster as a, let's say, junior high history project. | ||
| If Alex turned this in and I was his teacher, I would say, Incomplete needs work. | ||
| I'd probably give it a D. Reflecting effort. | ||
| I think he's shown some effort. | ||
| But in terms of proving any of the assertions he makes, as you can tell from the last four hours of coverage so far leading up to Part 3, he has failed to accurately cite a number of things, and that trend does continue. | ||
| Today's episode, we begin where we left off last time, and that was Alex Jones is really pissed off about a road. | ||
| He is really mad about this trans-Texas corridor. | ||
| So, you know, he lies a little bit about it to begin this thing, and then we jump off into eugenics and Nazis at a certain point. | ||
| So, enjoy. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Now there's a road. | ||
| There's a road. | ||
| Somebody's gotta fucking stop this goddamn road. | ||
| Yeah, and it's gonna be up to Texas. | ||
| It's gonna be old white people who's gonna do it. | ||
| Texas is that backstop in case the globalists get too powerful. | ||
| Which is why we took it in the first place, Dan. | ||
| Right, I know. | ||
| It's William Travis shit. | ||
| Texas has gotta stop this road. | ||
| Texas has gotta get in it. | ||
| The next stage of this world government plan is to have a transportation control. | ||
| And that is called the NAFTA Superhighway, or in Texas called the Trans-Texas Corridor. | ||
| It confiscates 584,000 acres of land to be transferred into control of a Spanish company which will collect tolls in Texas for the next 50 years, and there's no limit in the amount of tolls that can be collected. | ||
| It could be a million dollars to ride on the road. | ||
| There's no limit? | ||
| There's no way the free market will ever create a limit on it. | ||
| Because the free market doesn't exist. | ||
| It's anti-prosperity. | ||
| These are globalists. | ||
|
unidentified
|
They'll charge you four, five dollars? | |
| It's not like what he's describing isn't the direct product of the free market. | ||
| Have you tried to drive from fucking Chicago to New York? | ||
| Do you know how many goddamn tolls you have to pay? | ||
| And who knows where that money goes? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Who knows? | |
| You hope it's to the state you're driving in. | ||
| It probably doesn't. | ||
| It could be Spain. | ||
| Could be Spain! | ||
| More than 80 federal and state highways have been designated as international arteries. | ||
| The I-35 NAFTA corridor starts deep inside Mexico and travels through the middle of the United States and ends in central Canada. | ||
| Container ships from Asia dump their cargo on the Pacific side of Mexico. | ||
| It then travels duty-free by rail to the new Kansas City inland port, now considered sovereign soil of Mexico. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, what? | ||
| Wait, hold up, wait. | ||
| Now, if I understand what he just said correctly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Kansas City's port is Mexico. | ||
| It's sovereign soil of Mexico. | ||
| Now, question. | ||
| If you are a Mexican immigrant who does not have full United States citizenship, can you go to that port? | ||
| All the oxen free was run over to Kansas City's port. | ||
| It's sovereign land of Mexico. | ||
| Yeah, just put up a tent. | ||
| You're a citizen of the port. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| Yeah, this isn't true. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, what? | ||
| So the proposal was made, and this was evidenced by some emails that were sent by a guy named Chris Gutierrez, the president of the Kansas City Smart Port. | ||
| And the idea was that the Mexican customs office space would need to be designated as foreign Mexican sovereign territory and meet certain requirements. | ||
| Oh, yeah, because... | ||
| It would have to be. | ||
| Under this plan, what would happen with this port in Kansas City? | ||
| This is actually really interesting. | ||
| I disagree with a lot of it, I'll be honest. | ||
| But it's actually really interesting, the proposal that they made. | ||
| And that was that... | ||
| So what you'd have is you'd have this giant road that leads from Mexico, a port in Mexico, and the first stop they would make would be in Kansas City. | ||
| And at that point, there would be Mexican and American customs officials. | ||
| So they could check the stuff. | ||
| And the reason they would do this would be to streamline imports and exports in terms of shipping things out of Kansas City and into Kansas City. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| No, well, it makes sense. | ||
| It's because it's fucking dead center. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I'm interested in it in terms of all of the rail... | ||
| Rail lines and trucking lines meeting up here is some centralized place where you wouldn't have to take the time for American customs officials to be in Mexico to check stuff. | ||
| Any of that. | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| I get the idea. | ||
| That doesn't sound like a terrible idea. | ||
| I think there are probably some problems with it. | ||
| And the customs office would necessarily need to be sovereign soil of the country whose customs it represents. | ||
| It's no different than an embassy. | ||
| Otherwise they won't be allowed to enforce their laws. | ||
| Or something along the lines of an embassy. | ||
| There has to be some sort of backing behind them saying, you can't do that. | ||
| If you say that... | ||
| We'll start a war. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's really interesting, but when you really look at the idea of why people were pitching this sort of thing, there is a lot of simplicity that comes from it. | ||
| But you look at it and you're like, well, if you just had the ports at some place in America ship directly through a direct line to Kansas City and traverse from there, it wouldn't really be that much further than having them come from Mexico. | ||
| It's obviously they're trying to get around having to... | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Like in California or some other coast. | ||
| Oh, it turns out the rich people are trying to... | ||
| Hey, free market, Dan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All this does come down to, really, is some sort of simplicity and streamlining for these companies at the expense of American port jobs. | ||
| There's a very large downside to this. | ||
| When you streamline the business, you end up hurting workers, and this is not an exception to that. | ||
| You just end up screwing over people who work at the docks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But at the same time, it's interesting on a level that is not at all what Alex is saying. | ||
| Oh, no, absolutely not. | ||
| The port isn't Mexican sovereign territory. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I mean, if you wanted to... | ||
| And it wouldn't be... | ||
| It's not... | ||
| But if you wanted to complain about that, he has to complain about every embassy. | ||
| Sovereign territory isn't real! | ||
| It's an imaginary agreement. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not that it's Mexican soil. | ||
| It's that by... | ||
| By being there, America's like, that's Mexico, so we're not going to say no to it. | ||
| And Mexico's like, well, this is, we're not going to, you know, like that. | ||
| It's just an imaginary, you're cool, we're cool. | ||
| Your benefit as America, or these companies, is that you get to pay next to nothing for the longshoremen who are working at the Mexican ports in order to offload stuff from ships. | ||
| Into trains that end up going up to Kansas City as opposed to paying a living wage to people in Los Angeles. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's not a port in Los Angeles, but whatever. | ||
| You know what I'm saying. | ||
| There's probably a port in Los Angeles. | ||
| Yeah, there might be. | ||
| So you're cutting back your expenses on that, and in return you have this. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| Anyway, all the reasons it's interesting to talk about have nothing to do with why Alex is talking about it. | ||
| And the downside of it is just abuse of capitalism. | ||
| Like, that's all it is. | ||
| At the end of the day, everything we talk about with Alex is all the downsides are actually the thing he thinks is going to save us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Heart of the United States. | ||
| Under international agreements, predominantly foreign companies are placing tolls on already existing paid-for roads. | ||
|
unidentified
|
When did this turn into fucking Robin Hood? | |
| They will then use the revenue raised to build up. | ||
| The transportation infrastructure of Mexico, not the United States or Canada. | ||
| So foreign-made products can pour in even faster from Mexico. | ||
| Revenues raised will also be used to fund the fledgling North American Union and its growing bureaucracy. | ||
| Citation needed in bibliography. | ||
| North American trade corridors are also suspiciously similar to time zones. | ||
| They are actually... | ||
| Time zones. | ||
| They're very close even in name. | ||
| What he has just done is call them time zones. | ||
| Northern American Trade Quarters. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| They're using our own money to enslave us. | ||
|
unidentified
|
First of all, they're proposing a North American tribunal, which would be similar to what we have in Chapter 11 of the NAFTA agreement, which is trumped by international law. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| She's the chairman for National... | ||
| The National Eagle Forum. | ||
| That was founded by Phyllis Schlafly. | ||
| Okay, well then, whatever she has to say can go fucking put its mouth in her fucking face. | ||
| The National Eagle Forum was largely started as a means to organize against the Equal Rights Amendment. | ||
| God damn it, Dan! | ||
| Why is it that they called it the National Eagle Foundation? | ||
| Whenever it showed up as National Eagle Foundation, I was like... | ||
| Forum. | ||
| Forum, whatever it is. | ||
| I was like, oh, maybe she's an environmentalist. | ||
| And there are good environmental reasons to be opposed to this. | ||
| Like, oh, well, all the land it's going to tear apart. | ||
| Schlafly! | ||
| Nope, it turns out we're actually just the hate blacks forum. | ||
| And women, mostly. | ||
| And women, yes, true. | ||
|
unidentified
|
...and our Constitution could potentially be rendered invalid, and what we would have is a new North American business law that would trump what we have here in the United States. | |
| Does that make sense? | ||
| It's also interesting to note that the NAFTA headquarters is in Mexico and controls the United States trade and rules against the United States Congress, and no one seems to challenge it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's very probable and probably inevitable that our right to bear arms to be challenged in a North American court. | |
| Why? | ||
| How? | ||
| This is just an example of what's happening and what's being proposed. | ||
| This is Sharia law bullshit. | ||
| They're going to bring Sharia law in there, but we have laws. | ||
| The laws that say you can't do it. | ||
| We have a Supreme Court, and I have a tribunal that will be superior to the Supreme Court. | ||
| In 2005, Cintra, a Spanish-owned company, signed a secret agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation to erect toll roads on existing roads and to toll new roads that were completely paid for by town. | ||
| This just got so petty. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Believe it or not. | |
| In Texas, who don't know what the Trans-Texas corridor is? | ||
|
unidentified
|
We went from the Bilderberg Group to like, these motherfuckers are going to charge us two bucks? | |
| Two bucks for every 140 miles? | ||
| That's bullshit! | ||
| I don't even like it. | ||
| No tollsation without representation! | ||
| When the truth came out, newspapers across the state called for heads to roll politically. | ||
| Sentra's response was to have its Australian subsidiary make its first U.S. newspaper buy. | ||
| So here is an interesting thing. | ||
| That I am interested in. | ||
| Alex is making this case that this Spanish company that bought these roads owns this company here, Macaray, this Australian company. | ||
| This is not true at all. | ||
| So this Spanish... | ||
| Spain owns this Australian company. | ||
| This Australian media company, yeah. | ||
| So it's actually not true at all. | ||
| The Australian media company, Macquarie Media, bought 40 local papers around Texas and Oklahoma around this time in 2007 by purchasing two parent companies. | ||
| But their intent in doing so was stated as they were trying to put together a portfolio of media operations. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex in no way proves that they did this to silence critics of the Trans-Texas Corridor. | ||
| And he has no citations for it. | ||
| Also, this... | ||
| You know, but that's... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| It's a big problem whenever people do that. | ||
| Sinclair Media? | ||
| Sinclair Media? | ||
| Yeah, but look. | ||
| Like, the guys who just bought the LA Times. | ||
| Like, these guys are fucking real! | ||
| Stop it with a random-ass Australian company! | ||
| But Jordan, in this case, it's not that weird, because really, this Macquarie bought two companies, and those two companies combined owned 40 papers. | ||
| It was two companies that owned 40, and now it's one. | ||
| Which is an infuriating sentence on its own. | ||
| It was bad to begin with. | ||
| Why is it that you bought two companies that also own 40 companies? | ||
| This is very angry. | ||
| It was bad to begin with, and now... | ||
| It's not that great. | ||
| But they're not owned by a Spanish company. | ||
| It's majority owned by Fairfax Media Limited, an Australian and New Zealand-based media giant. | ||
| Because, of course. | ||
| Because they're an Australian company. | ||
| Well, then we're not... | ||
| I'm not afraid of a New Zealand-based media giant. | ||
| They're not trying to silence anybody about this road. | ||
| I don't think they care about the road. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| This is so frustrating. | ||
| What is there, like one billionaire in New Zealand who's like... | ||
| Gotta kill this road. | ||
| I hate this fucking road! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Let's get back to it. | ||
| Every newspaper they bought was along branches of the Trans-Texas Corridor and had been critical of the toll road plan. | ||
| The cost of 40 or 50 newspapers is nothing compared to the profits that'll be made. | ||
| Just phase one alone, the state toll road plan is estimated to raise more than $200 billion in just the first 15 years. | ||
| Well, Texas is probably a small part of the global panorama a Combine of transnational companies is aggressive There's Bono. | ||
| Oh, there is Bono! | ||
| Bono and Tony Blair! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Actually, now I'm on Alex's side. | |
| I don't want to be on the side with Bono and Tony Blair. | ||
| Very ambivalent about the edge. | ||
| And transferring it to offshore bank accounts, leaving behind a cultural and economic wasteland of easily managed slaves. | ||
| The whole purpose about the North American Free Trade Agreement is not about trade. | ||
| It's about control. | ||
| Control of people. | ||
| Cash is even worse. | ||
| Control of people. | ||
| It's not about trade. | ||
| It's subsidized trade with taxpayers' funds. | ||
| This thing started here. | ||
| Well, you, sir, have just made so much sense, I agree with you. | ||
|
unidentified
|
And to save this country, we kill this damn thing here. | |
| Stop it here in Texas. | ||
| We stopped the new world order right here in Texas. | ||
| Polls consistently show that over 90% of the people are against the NAFTA highway systems and its toll roads. | ||
| As the people learned of the threat, they got angry and took action. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Our ranch is part of the original Spanish land grant, and I would love to not have to give it back to Spain. | |
| Our ranch was literally stolen from other people, and I want to make sure that it's not stolen from me. | ||
| I mean, I think that's what you just said. | ||
| I don't want to give it back. | ||
| Superhighway today held a major protest No! | ||
|
unidentified
|
TTC! | |
| No! | ||
| TTC! | ||
| No! | ||
| TTC! | ||
| Stop not? | ||
| Oh, that didn't say Nazis? | ||
| That would be curious. | ||
| A majority of Texas counties have voted to resist the plan for a North American Union and have vowed to block the construction of its infrastructure. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Cool. | |
| Heck, we already know in a law that was passed by a subservient United States Congress... | ||
| Where practically nobody in the entire Congress stood up and said no, they've already passed the law saying all their driver's licenses are going to be chipped. | ||
| Well, I'm telling you right now, I'm not going to carry in a driver's license. | ||
| You've got to chip in it. | ||
| So big brother can work everywhere I go and see everything I do. | ||
| No, no, hell no! | ||
| No, all of us, no! | ||
| Now, and I don't mean to generalize, but if anybody At a rally has a cowboy hat on. | ||
| I assume they are the bad guy. | ||
| They get it. | ||
| I cannot believe you would ever trust anybody with a cowboy hat trying to say something like they weren't wearing a cowboy hat. | ||
| I would argue also this guy is yelling about a completely different issue than Alex has been talking about for a while. | ||
| Do you eat computer chips in his fucking... | ||
| Also, why are you... | ||
| What is this happening? | ||
| I refuse... | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| I refuse to have a... | ||
| Fucking ID that has a chip in it, but I'm fine with an ID that has a barcode on it. | ||
| Essentially, it's a faster version of what you already have. | ||
| I'm fine with one that I can swipe and has a barcode on it, but I really refuse the chip in my ID. | ||
| It's all just Mark of the Beast. | ||
| But having a picture on your ID is kind of the... | ||
| It's just another identifier. | ||
| I bet they're principally against that, too. | ||
| How do you feel about fingerprints? | ||
| Hate them. | ||
| Burned them off. | ||
| Well, that's a smart idea. | ||
| And that's why acid rain is good for you. | ||
| No acid rain is going to get on me. | ||
| I got a cowboy hat. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't want to be near this video. | |
| He looks awful well-dressed for somebody who is afraid of computer chips in his ID. | ||
| State inspection stickers and toll tags are already being used to track the population. | ||
| The system is also meant to control growth and steer development. | ||
| Can I just confirm real quick? | ||
| We started on the international 5G bankers that were running the world. | ||
| Nathan Rothschild. | ||
| And now we took a huge detour into there's this road I don't like. | ||
| Well, I think Alex is trying to use this as an example of, like, this is a grassroots, on-the-ground means of control. | ||
| He's not doing a good job of it. | ||
| The argument's not being made, really. | ||
|
unidentified
|
No. | |
| It doesn't really make sense. | ||
| I still don't understand if the argument... | ||
| I get the anger, though, that's behind it in terms of, like, you're going to take away some of my land. | ||
| Right, but if you were going to make a different documentary, this would be great for it, as long as that documentary... | ||
| This documentary was about this and was never released and no one should see it. | ||
| This is the blueprint for global enslavement. | ||
| Roads? | ||
| Roads. | ||
| Roads. | ||
| We already have those, right? | ||
| Smart growth, which is nothing more than an effort to bring control into the cities. | ||
| You have the rewilding of America in the Wildlands Project, the Convention on Biological Diversity, which is to control our rural population. | ||
| Toll roads on interstate highways nationwide are walling off exit ramps to small towns and rural communities. | ||
| That's not right. | ||
| And are creating ghost towns by design. | ||
| This trend is accelerating under the NAFTA highway system. | ||
| All of these things are designed to bring more and more control to bureaucracies rather than to the independent individual, the sovereign individual of this nation. | ||
| What brought me into this whole discussion was the fact that while I was doing this multi-million dollar research effort in the 1980s and early 1990s, I became aware of an agenda basically to lock up one half of the United States into wilderness corridors and reserves. | ||
| What's called the Wildlands Project, but it was also a key cornerstone of the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity. | ||
| It was during that study in which I began to realize that... | ||
| This was not an effort to protect the environment, but an effort to control you and I. They were dividing the United States up into little compartments in which they would rip out roads. | ||
| So this map that Alex is flashing up here right now. | ||
| Yes, the Verizon coverage map. | ||
| It's actually really important because they're talking about the Wildlands Project. | ||
| Privately owned land. | ||
| Which is now the Wildlands Network. | ||
| State owned land. | ||
| Federally owned land. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wildland. | ||
| Wildland. | ||
| So one of the things that's important here is all of the claims that are being made by Michael Kaufman and Alex in this section lack citations. | ||
| There's like four straight things to insert here. | ||
| They got nothing on all of this stuff. | ||
| And the maps that Alex is using. | ||
| I still have a hard time believing that in the bibliography that he released. | ||
| He released. | ||
| Many, if not all, of the most explosive claims that they've made are literally said to be unsubstantiated and insert citation here. | ||
| And all of the quotes are manufactured, basically, and lack citations because they're not real. | ||
| Also, these maps here, Alex conveniently forgets to mention that they were created by Michael Kaufman. | ||
| He made... | ||
| He made these maps? | ||
| He made these maps based on his interpretation of the UN biodiversity assessment. | ||
| The designations of land are not in the UN's. | ||
| They're Michael Kaufman's. | ||
| This is pure out-and-out fear-mongering. | ||
| The map isn't even depicting a real plan, according to Kaufman, but what, quote, could have been if he had not been there to fight the UN. | ||
| Oh, oh. | ||
| Quote, these maps show how 50% of America might have been used, might have been set aside in wilderness reserves and buffer zones if the biodiversity treaty had been ratified. | ||
| He made the map, and he's interpreting it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So this is all just bullshit. | ||
| Simulated map. | ||
| If I understand correctly, he was doing his job. | ||
| And maybe, you know what? | ||
| Maybe he caught it out. | ||
| Multi-million dollar project. | ||
| A multi-million dollar research project. | ||
| Maybe he caught it out. | ||
| In the language, they had written something and he was like, they could use this to do that while he was working there. | ||
| So he was like, I won't let them do this. | ||
| And then they didn't. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Mm-hmm. | |
| He saved us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's basically the trajectory of this. | ||
| So then why are we doing this? | ||
| Alex does that all the time. | ||
| Why are we doing this, then? | ||
| Because he wants to warn you that they still want to do it. | ||
| So I've looked at... | ||
| Wait, so then they would have done it if it weren't for you, so they're still... | ||
| Because it's pesky Michael Kaufman. | ||
| So is he trying to inspire more Michael Kaufman? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I've looked into the Wildlands Project and the Wildlands Network and all that stuff, and I can't find anything that really backs up at all the claims that they're making. | ||
| What about the World Wildlife Foundation? | ||
| Well, that's evil. | ||
| That was created by Julian Huxley. | ||
| We'll get to that later. | ||
| Wait, wait, what? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the issue is that I can't find any non-crazy source talking about this stuff. | ||
| Like weirdo blogs and stuff like that? | ||
| Because it's so crazy, even the regular mainstream outlets are like, we're going to punt on this one. | ||
| Nah, you guys have your fun. | ||
| Michael Kaufman did whatever, I don't care. | ||
| And in that spirit, I'm going to punt too. | ||
| I don't think this is real. | ||
| I don't trust the word of crazy people. | ||
| Stupid blogs. | ||
| Which they rip out whole communities and put them back in the wilderness. | ||
| The Federal Highway System was designed by Pentagon war planners in the 1950s to serve as a rapid deployment conduit to move ground forces Otherwise known as a good highway. | ||
| This also isn't true. | ||
| The highway system wasn't created specifically to deploy troops or anything like that. | ||
| Oh, would there perhaps be other economic reasons behind it, Dan? | ||
| No, it was because of a burgeoning suburb. | ||
| That was happening after the baby boom in the 50s. | ||
| Yeah, and white flight. | ||
| And white flight, absolutely. | ||
| And the desire to sort of destroy unsavory parts of town, which they were able to do by building highways through them. | ||
| In 1955, the Department of Commerce put out a document often referred to as the Yellow Book. | ||
| And if you look at the document, you'll see very clearly that the plans for highways... | ||
| That's where I found my dentist. | ||
| The plans for the highways are set to create roads that would connect cities to specific suburbs. | ||
| Joseph Dimento... | ||
| Another fun name. | ||
| A law professor who co-wrote the book Changing Lanes. | ||
| Was he a doctor? | ||
| He was. | ||
| So his name was Dr. Demento? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| All right! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah! | |
| We got to Dr. Demento now! | ||
| He wrote the book Changing Lanes, Visions and Histories of Urban Freeways. | ||
| And I quote, Highway engineers dominated the decision making. | ||
| They were trained to design without much consideration for how a highway might impact urban fabric. | ||
| They were worried about the most efficient way of moving people from point A to point B. The Yellow Book formed the basis for the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956, which created the interstate system. | ||
| At the time, the bill required a lot of federal funding, 90% of the total funding. | ||
| And one of the only reasons that it even got made was because Eisenhower supported it for troop movements, but also for evacuations in the case of a natural disaster or like a nuclear event. | ||
| This was the consideration, but not the reason they were made. | ||
| Every president has been super into roads. | ||
| Going back to George Washington. | ||
| Kind of important. | ||
| To quote George Washington, They seem obvious. | ||
| Also, in 1919... | ||
| Then, Lieutenant Colonel Eisenhower participated in a cross-country tour to see if the vehicles that were used in the First World War could make it across the country. | ||
| How'd they do? | ||
| It was a study, but also a military recruitment opportunity where they went town to town and were like, hey, join up. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| What they learned was that the roads sucked, they destroyed cars, and that most bridges couldn't support the weight of most cars. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| And so from 1919 on, that stuck in his head is a very serious priority. | ||
| So when Eisenhower was elected president in the 1950s, he ended up... | ||
| Being like, we gotta finally get around to doing this that I deemed a priority 30 years ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So back to Dr. Demento. | ||
| Yeah, yeah! | ||
| Quote, an unmistakable part of the equation of highways... | ||
| He had to have known he was Dr. Demento, right? | ||
| Oh, he absolutely knew. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The unmistakable part of the equation, as it relates to the highways, was a federally supported program of urban renewal in which lower-income urban communities, mostly African-American, were targeted for removal. | ||
| The idea was, quote, let's get rid of the blight, says Demento. | ||
| I don't like saying blight. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I bet we're quoting a Dr. Demento. | ||
| That makes everything else sound very supervillainy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
And quote, in places that we now see as interesting, multi-ethnic areas were viewed just as plight. | |
| Highways were a tool of justifying the destruction of many of these areas. | ||
| Many neighborhoods, predominantly black, were wiped out and turned to surface parking and highways. | ||
| Noting Black Bottom and Paradise Valley in Detroit. | ||
| Historical neighborhoods that were torn down to make room for I-375. | ||
| The same pattern was repeated over and over, leading to cities pockmarked with empty neighborhoods and destructive highways. | ||
| People displaced from destroyed areas moved to others, leading to overcrowding and increases in crime. | ||
| While most people with the means to flee fled to the suburbs, commuting on the new highway. | ||
| So this was at the same time that they would also have instituted the policy known as redlining, which kept the people who were displaced from living anywhere where they would be. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| No, are you saying, Dan, now, let me go somewhere no one else has gone before, Dan. | ||
| Are you saying that not only is this country institutionally racist, but its infrastructure itself is racist? | ||
| A lot of the motivation for the creation of a lot of this stuff was, yeah. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And granted, Alex isn't totally wrong in the idea that troop deployments were a factor. | ||
| Every time you drive out to fucking Aurora, thank God for racism, you pieces of shit. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| That's what I think every time I go to the shrine. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I haven't been there in a while. | ||
| The unconstitutional Northern Command is now using the highway system as a force projection matrix to dominate populations across the United States. | ||
| Through federally funded emergency command centers, county and city governments are being quietly federalized nationwide. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Quietly. | |
| Billions of dollars per city is being spent to install millions of surveillance cameras. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Pass it on. | |
| Every town in Hamlet. | ||
| No matter how small or remote is surveilled. | ||
| License plate reading software tracks Americans' movements wherever they go. | ||
| New systems are being deployed that scan your face, read your lips, and analyze your walk. | ||
| Under the treasonous Military Commissions Act, American citizens can be secretly arrested, stripped of citizenship, flown to offshore torture camps, and secretly executed. | ||
| Yeah, not good. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I'm on your team! | ||
| Stop making me on your team in the middle of you being wrong about everything! | ||
| No, you can be right about a couple things along the way. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| I mean, yes, this is an issue. | ||
| Why aren't we... | ||
| Why can't we work together on this? | ||
| Why does it have to be centered around a fucking... | ||
| Well, because he's only... | ||
| The Bilderbergs are building a road in my town. | ||
| Well, that's why. | ||
| It's because he's only right about these things in service of the things that are bigger that he's wrong about. | ||
| As evidenced by this. | ||
| In 8.02 of the Patriot Act, all misdemeanors are considered terrorism. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I agree, Alex! | ||
| No, no, he's lying. | ||
| I so agree! | ||
| He's lying. | ||
| No, no, about... | ||
| No, no, no, not about... | ||
| All misdemeanor acts. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's complete nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| All the Section 802 does is it just amends some of the definitions of what constitutes domestic terrorism. | ||
| It has nothing to do with misdemeanors or anything like that. | ||
| For example, it just adds the language mass destruction into the definition of crimes that were domestic terrorism. | ||
| Previously, the section said assassination or kidnapping. | ||
| Now it says assassination, kidnapping, or mass destruction. | ||
| Now why would? | ||
| Notorious white supremacist Alex Jones. | ||
| Not want domestic terrorism to include mass destruction. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Probably... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Something that happened in Oklahoma City. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Ooh. | |
| Could be. | ||
| Federal police squads called Viper teams randomly force Americans to line up and show their papers. | ||
| Also, in case you were wondering, typo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Suspicious. | ||
| But also... | ||
| Not suspicious. | ||
| Suspicious. | ||
| Alex is incredibly in support of what's being done by ICE right now in 2018. | ||
| Which is very different. | ||
| Very different from this. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Very different. | |
| He's very concerned about Viper teams back then. | ||
| Don't even mention that. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
| It's being done to non-white people, so it's fine. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| But also, the article that he's citing makes no mention of people demanding that they show their papers. | ||
| He cites like three articles. | ||
| None of them are relevant to that. | ||
| The only article that's kind of relevant is one about how New York subway and train riders are being randomly checked, having their bags checked. | ||
| And, oh, hey! | ||
| The reason for that is it was the same week as the London transit bombs in 2005. | ||
| I'm not thrilled with random bag checks, but I fucking get it that week. | ||
| I understand where that fear comes from. | ||
| It's not like it's today. | ||
| People are having their bags randomly checked for no reason. | ||
|
unidentified
|
They are. | |
| They're just not white people. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Alex doesn't care about that. | ||
| That's outside of the scope of this documentary. | ||
| At a certain point... | ||
| Everything that Alex is describing as what could be done by the globalists is stuff that he is describing white people are doing to everybody else right now. | ||
| Or the team he's on. | ||
| And the reason that he's... | ||
| Like, what this documentary is... | ||
| He has no principles. | ||
| What this documentary is, is imagine you, a regular white person, is treated like the way white people treat other people. | ||
| That'd be terrible. | ||
| That'd be a nightmare. | ||
| That's the trick. | ||
| For global enslavement, we would be treated the way we treat other people. | ||
| So the blueprint actually for global enslavement is what white people do. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| We've nailed it. | ||
| Interesting take. | ||
| I think he's just read a history of white people and been like, okay, well, if we're going to reverse engineer this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| From the sidewalks of Miami... | ||
| This documentary should just be called White People Could Do It To You Too! | ||
| Are you shitting me? | ||
| Would whites turn on whites? | ||
| Paramilitary police. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't even know where the Netherlands is, Queen Patrick's. | |
| I want to be clear about this really quick. | ||
| I have no idea what this video is of. | ||
| Alex gives no context of it. | ||
| Well, it's from 2006, so I assume it's right after 9-11. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yo, can you get that camera off with us, sir? | |
| Sir, can you get the United States first? | ||
| All right. | ||
| But you can get that camera. | ||
| We have no idea what happened right before this. | ||
| On this dude's team. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I hate being on the military's team, but if you're talking shit to Alex Jones... | |
| Goes a long way. | ||
| Hey, move to Russia, okay? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Go. | |
| Go. | ||
| We can have cameras on the streets. | ||
| I said get it out of my face. | ||
| I said get it out of my face. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It was never in your face. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| This would be so much a better movie if that guy just murdered Alex right there. | ||
| I legitimately have no idea what's going on. | ||
| The reality could be that these people in fatigue just went to go see a movie together or something like that. | ||
| There could be a completely benign reason that they're on the streets. | ||
| Did he give any lead up to this footage? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Any like... | ||
| This is, we're at this place, there's a thing, there's a demonstration, there's... | ||
| Just about how you can't videotape people on the street anymore. | ||
| That the fascism is cracking down, the authoritarian state. | ||
| I think it's like this, if I'm reading this situation correctly, based on what has been said so far, this dude is part of some sort of military situation. | ||
| He's wearing full fatigues, right? | ||
| So he's on the job. | ||
| Alex fucking Jones shows up and starts putting a camera in his face and asks him questions. | ||
| He might not be on the job, though. | ||
| And he is understandably pissed off about it. | ||
| He might not be on the job, though. | ||
| Fine, he's still dressed like it. | ||
| Yeah, I know, but kids would come to school in their fatigues or in, like, ROTC and stuff like that. | ||
| That's fine, but if you're in your fatigues and somebody... | ||
|
unidentified
|
You know what I'm saying? | |
| There's other reasons. | ||
| Look, if I was wearing... | ||
| It could be Veterans Day or Memorial Day. | ||
| If I was wearing a suit. | ||
| If I was wearing a suit and Alex Jones came to work and he was like, ah, I've got a camera in your face, I'd be like, get that fucking camera out of my face! | ||
| You can take the work out of the equation. | ||
| Alex Jones comes up to me and I tell him to go. | ||
| Oh, get the fuck out of my face, Alex! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he gets to go to his sergeant and the sergeant's like, let's fucking make him go away. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Or they just get in the car and leave like they were going to anyway. | ||
| Long before 9-11, the Pentagon was aggressively violating the federal law that bars the military from policing the American people. | ||
| Coast to coast, for more than two decades, teams of troops would just appear out of nowhere and randomly stop cars and search pedestrians. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Ooh, the Arkansas DOT is out! | |
| The Arkansas DOT is out on the streets! | ||
| Principally, I am against what Alex is against here. | ||
| Of course, the military should not be operating in the states. | ||
| It's kind of a big deal. | ||
| But I don't agree with his conclusions. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What with the whole crossing of the Rubicon and the like. | |
| The acclimation accelerated with regular army searching bags at the Super Bowl and the Kentucky Derby, as well as other high-profile events. | ||
| Then President Bush signed a Defense Authorization Act, which radically increased the funding for the already bloated shadow government. | ||
| In the act, the executive branch formally announced that it was preparing for domestic insurrection and went on to preemptively strip the state government's... | ||
| Oh my god, I hate him too! | ||
| Stop putting W up there! | ||
| He's trying to soften you up. | ||
| I want to fucking... | ||
| I'm so furious. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Stop showing his goddamn face! | |
| Then on May 9th, 2007, President Bush unlawfully granted himself new powers, and the presidency officially became a fiat dictatorship. | ||
| In the past, continuity of government has been shared by the legislative, judicial, and executive branches of government. | ||
| Now, all power resides with the president. | ||
| That was a slick fucking graphic. | ||
| Did you see that shit? | ||
| That was slick as shit. | ||
| Also, Alex thinks that Donald Trump is the only person who can save us. | ||
| He's thrilled that he has all this power as an executive. | ||
| Because he thinks that the judiciary and the Congress is full of globalist operatives. | ||
| So you need almost a fascist dictator, much like the people who were trying to convince Smedley Butler to march against FDR. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The same sort of fucking thing. | ||
| You just see all this? | ||
| See all this? | ||
| Why this drives me crazy? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yep. | |
| And, of course, Bush was a disaster. | ||
| A lot of that shit is terrible. | ||
| But here's the one through line of, oh, okay, I am washing myself of bias in this situation, right? | ||
| As he says that, George Bush enacts these executive powers. | ||
| And I'm like, fuck yeah, he did. | ||
| And fuck yeah, that's wrong. | ||
| And then I think, and Obama expanded those powers and used them exactly as negatively, if not worse. | ||
| So fuck that. | ||
| Fuck him. | ||
| That shouldn't be allowed. | ||
| And then Trump is... | ||
| Got these powers, and thank God he's too stupid to figure out how to use them properly because all of these guys are wrong. | ||
| He's too busy on petty squabbles here in the States and trying to be a bigot. | ||
| I genuinely mean this. | ||
| The more this presidency goes on, the more grateful I am that Trump won. | ||
| And none of the other idiots. | ||
| Because if anybody... | ||
| I really can't allow you to say that on the show. | ||
| I mean this. | ||
| I mean this. | ||
| Because if anybody with the level of intelligence... | ||
| Like, if evil Obama were president right now, we would be fucked. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| We'd be in a caliphate. | ||
| I know Larry Nichols. | ||
| No, if somebody was smart enough to utilize... | ||
| Larry Nichols has told me about this. | ||
| Because they have destroyed any chance of a large group of people ever agreeing with their enemy. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| In the Republic... | ||
| Yeah, you're probably right. | ||
| We're dealing with people who say things like... | ||
| I'll stipulate that you're correct. | ||
| No matter what Obama says, it's wrong. | ||
| I know it's wrong. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| That kind of thing. | ||
| If you had somebody who was capable of combining that level of xenophobic lunacy that Trump had that he needed to get elected with ruthless capability, dude. | ||
| They could destroy America tomorrow. | ||
| But I don't think any of the candidates had that combination. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| So we just get the xenophobic lunacy and the abusiveness. | ||
| Which is better than having George W. and Cheney in, where W. is dumb enough and silly enough to get elected, and Cheney is evil enough to enact all of his plans. | ||
| Like, we're stuck with chaotic evil. | ||
| George W. is still a million times worse as a president than Trump is, and I hate saying that, but that's true. | ||
| He's got... | ||
| He's got three more years. | ||
| Time will tell. | ||
| He's got a shot. | ||
| Time will tell. | ||
| G-Dubs didn't start Iraq until 2003. | ||
| Well, I mean, he was bogged down by a 9-11 happening. | ||
| Well, he was the reason 9-11 happened. | ||
| Let's get back to this. | ||
| For the smallest of reasons, including in the document's own text, any incident in the world, regardless of location, that affects population, infrastructure. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Environment, economy, or government functions trigger presidents' will. | |
| Total martial law. | ||
| It is important to add that the president is merely a puppet of the Global Crime Syndicate and may not use the new powers but simply pass them on for use by future puppet administrations. | ||
| I would have led with that. | ||
| Except for Trump. | ||
| Oh, hey! | ||
| Chairman Mao, how you doing? | ||
| We're transitioning from Rhodes. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hey! | |
| Hey! | ||
| I'm just going to buy him because of the way. | ||
| In 1968, Chairman Mao built a road in Texas. | ||
| He had a lot of abusive roads. | ||
| This is disgusting. | ||
| I'm ashamed that we're posting this. | ||
| Is this really happening right now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I forgot that this was in here. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'm sorry. | |
| Holy shit. | ||
| I should have given a warning. | ||
| All of a sudden, now we're seeing fucking faces of death? | ||
| Christ. | ||
|
unidentified
|
yeah. | |
| That's a movie, right? | ||
| Subtitles would help. | ||
| Yes, there have been dictators. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You must teach people to love their leader. | |
| This is the only most important. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Almost unconditionally. | ||
| Why don't we learn from the mistakes of our ancestors? | ||
|
unidentified
|
To the point where nothing who says or does matters. | |
| You gotta teach people how to love their leader even if you... | ||
| I don't know, he's a racist, xenophobic billionaire. | ||
| Predatory elites have always rationalized their oppression by claiming that they are superior and have the divine right to rule, when all they really are is a gaggle of ruthless psychopaths parasitically feeding on the host population. | ||
| Until their cancerous movement causes the collapse of the host. | ||
| There have been thousands of tyrannical governments in history. | ||
|
unidentified
|
And less than ten that can truly be all free. | |
| I don't know if he's putting up art. | ||
| 20th century alone, over 150 million people were murdered at the hands of the state. | ||
| This is where Alex gets super anti-government. | ||
| Russia, the Red Terror consumed the lives of more than 60 million men, women, and children. | ||
| Hitler's war killed 22 million. | ||
| Great. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hearing Mao say tongues reign alerted. | |
| Great. | ||
| True. | ||
| You only gave two examples. | ||
| 300,000 innocent civilians killed in Guatemala. | ||
| More than 2 million souls brutally murdered by the government of Cambodia. | ||
| 1,500,000 killed in Turkey. | ||
| Turkish government's not acknowledged that. | ||
| 300,000 in Uganda. | ||
| They're wrong. | ||
| 800,000 plus. | ||
| Hacked to death with machetes in Rwanda. | ||
| Sadly, there are too many examples of innocent families being exterminated by their governments on an industrial scale, to name them all. | ||
| It's all the governments. | ||
| And that's why you should elect a racist, xenophobic monster to control the largest military the government and the Earth has ever seen. | ||
| And the only point that I want to make about this is Alex is trying to shock people with these numbers, and they're terrible. | ||
| They're horrible things. | ||
| But he's conflating a lot of things, because some of those were intentional genocides. | ||
| Some of them were sectarian ethnic violence that also ended up being genocides. | ||
| And then some of them were droughts that were exacerbated by mismanagement of government. | ||
| Like, the numbers that you have for Mao... | ||
| That's not all brutal murders of people. | ||
| A lot of that had to do with just, like, they didn't know how they were running that government. | ||
| No, they had no fucking clue. | ||
| They completely fucked up their management. | ||
| No, Mao is a monster, but his main issue was he killed all of the people who could have helped him run a government. | ||
| Those numbers are super inflated by virtue of... | ||
| Cyclical patterns of famine. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, yeah. | |
| That he made worse. | ||
| That everybody already knew about, and there were people who knew what to do in those situations, and he was like, everybody who knows anything is stupid! | ||
| It's almost like anti-intellectualism is not a good foundation for government. | ||
| No, but all that idea of these people were murdered by the government is a little dubious, is all I'm saying. | ||
| He's conflating a lot of things. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| The fact that the state is the number one cause of unnatural death. | ||
| If you take the 150 million people killed by power-mad government in the last century and divide it by 100,000, the number of souls lost would fill the biggest sports stadium packed with 100,000 screaming fans 1,500 times over. | ||
| That's 1,500 sports stadiums crammed with 100,000 people each, all exterminated. | ||
| For those who think it can't happen here, or won't happen to them, you have been warned. | ||
| The carnage witnessed in the last hundred years was only the preparatory phase of the New World Order's master plan. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hitler and Stein's crimes are now part of history. | |
| The Chinese system of evil is not content with racking up the highest death toll in history. | ||
| We'll get to greener pastors here in a bit. | ||
| The mass murder and enslavement is still going on today and enjoys the full support and sanction of the New World Order. | ||
| And the United States. | ||
|
unidentified
|
This image of the United States is similar to the United States. | |
| It's just a surprise. | ||
| It's tough because I can't even like... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Why wouldn't you put subtitles up? | |
| I don't know, but also... | ||
| I'll tell you why you wouldn't put subtitles up. | ||
| One, you don't want people to know what was actually being said. | ||
| Because if you do, you would probably find out it sounds a lot like what Alex says later on. | ||
| Also, you just said that China is the globalists' testing ground for ideas of oppression. | ||
| There's no citation for this on the bibliography. | ||
| Why? | ||
| How? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Who? | |
| What citation could you possibly have? | ||
| David Rockefeller admitting we try things out in China. | ||
| David Rockefeller. | ||
| The globalists. | ||
| Try out different ways to oppress people in China. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| When you're making claims like that, you have to support them. | ||
| What you're saying is... | ||
| It's embarrassing if you don't. | ||
| Because what he's saying is people are oppressed in China in different ways. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's all he's saying. | ||
| But he's also trying to link that to something else, his bigger narrative. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Exactly. | |
| But you can't just say, like, hey, look at all the ways that people are being oppressed in China. | ||
| Don't... | ||
| We're trying to fine-tune it so they can use it on you. | ||
| You, the white listener. | ||
| This is what happens whenever you don't fucking have any concept of what it is that oppression really is. | ||
| Because that's what he's trying to describe there. | ||
| Look at all the ways that the government in China has oppressed its people. | ||
| It must be shadowy globalists doing that to us. | ||
| It can't be that people... | ||
| Who are given the opportunity will fucking horrifyingly treat other people as if it doesn't matter. | ||
| Because if you just say that, if you just reveal that it's something that's within the heart of every single human being on the planet, nobody's gonna buy your goddamn pills. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Nope. | |
| They're gonna start fucking doing shit. | ||
| To be fair, he wasn't selling pills at this point. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| He was just selling dumb books in these documentaries. | ||
| Then I retract my entire argument, Dan. | ||
| Continue. | ||
| Approving Ground. | ||
| Where 1.4 billion people live out their lives as guinea pigs who serve as test subjects. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You can't assert this. | |
| U.S. and British forces worked closely with Mao Zedong during World War II, and at the end of the war, they secretly backed Mao in driving out Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalists. | ||
| The OSS and then CIA believed that Mao would have a stabilizing effect. | ||
| Bow! | ||
| And Georgetown University political science professor Carol Quigley explained in his book, Tragedy and Hope, how the Anglo-American roundtable groups... | ||
| back every brand of authoritarianism on communism the fascism to ensure that a centralized government dominates the population and the economy is planned so The only citation for this is an Amazon link to buy Carol Quigley's book, Tragedy and Hope. | ||
| If I recall correctly from my research paper, totally fine. | ||
| It's 1,200 pages long. | ||
| There's no fucking way someone's going to watch this documentary. | ||
| I've got to confirm this. | ||
| I'm going to read 1,200 pages. | ||
| I cited the Amazon link to buy this book. | ||
| Yeah, you should know. | ||
| Now it's on you. | ||
| Yeah, good luck. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And the only other citation is a World Net Daily op-ed, which is not professionally written. | ||
| It has a tone of real brashness, real op-ed style. | ||
| And it's clear that they're just cherry picking quotes because they're quoting like three words at a time, then half a sentence. | ||
| Right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
And like, I don't know what to make of that. | |
| I can't get the context of this stuff. | ||
| And look, I read a bunch of books in preparation for this, but I'm not going to buy Carol Quigley's book and read twelve hundred more pages. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I think right now every one of our listeners is thinking, this was great. | ||
| But now that I know Dan didn't read that fucking book. | ||
| Citations are important. | ||
| Turn it off! | ||
| You need to do better than this. | ||
| Listen, policy wonks, I love you so much, but you're going to have to turn this on. | ||
| Dan failed you. | ||
| Jordan, we only have like 45 minutes left. | ||
| We only have 4,000 hours. | ||
|
unidentified
|
We can do this. | |
| Sorry, I'm losing it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
We've got to get our second win. | |
| They seek to create monopolies and dominate populations through the barrel of a gun. | ||
| That's an assertion. | ||
| In their writings, the leadership of the New World Order has continuously heaped praise on the corrupt Communist Chinese model. | ||
| Back to the microfiche. | ||
| In August of 1973, in an article written by David Rockefeller for the New York Times, Rockefeller openly lauds and endorses Mao Zedong's actions. | ||
| While celebrating their command and control system. | ||
| So, this is from this op-ed in the New York Times that David Rockefeller wrote called From a China Traveler. | ||
| It's a little bit complicated in terms of history. | ||
| For context, Nixon had just gone to China in 1972, a year prior from this article's writing. | ||
| Previous to this, the relations between China and the United States had been very frosty. | ||
| The United States did not recognize the communist government in China, but did retain relations with the anti-communist government in Taiwan, which largely made the U.S. one of China's major enemies in the world. | ||
| After 1776. | ||
| How long has that been going on for? | ||
| After 1776. | ||
| 1.0. | ||
| It took 68 years for China to accept formal diplomatic relationships with the United States in 1844 with the signing of the Treaty of Wanghai. | ||
| This treaty was only really brought up because of the fears that Britain would dominate the East and trade, and we wanted a little bit of that taste. | ||
| Also, it had to do with the pesky opium wars that were going on, which were the first instance of actual armed engagement between those countries. | ||
| Which is a weird... | ||
| It's a weird time for America to be like... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| We might not get in there. | ||
| The British are going to dominate it. | ||
| At the same time, the Chinese are like, these British people are fucking murdering us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We need to get rid of them. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| Please. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Please go away. | ||
| It's this terrible, like... | ||
| You're the worst. | ||
| It's this terrible push-push thing going on. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So things... | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hey, hey, hey. | |
| You hate those British people. | ||
| They're evil. | ||
| They're the ones who've been giving you opium. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| We're not British anymore. | ||
| We're the same guys. | ||
| You can trust us, but we're not British anymore. | ||
| So after that... | ||
| You can trust us. | ||
| After that, things didn't get better. | ||
| And in 1882, Chester Arthur, then president, he signed the Chinese Exclusion Act, which prohibited all immigration of Chinese laborers. | ||
| The Geary Act made the order permanent in 1902, and this was only repealed by the Magnuson Act in 1943. | ||
| A lot of the anti-immigrant sentiment had to do with the gold rush. | ||
| The immigrants were tolerated when gold was plentiful and to be found, but once it started to dry up, the locals started... | ||
| Oh, the story of America. | ||
| The Foreign Miners Tax was passed to discourage Chinese from being involved in that industry. | ||
| Also to discourage foreign children from existing. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| So they moved to urban centers and took up work in low-wage labor positions, which were the only things that were available to them. | ||
| The Exclusion Act specifically made it so skilled and unskilled laborers and Chinese people engaged in mining could not come to the United States, and if they did, they'd be put in jail or deported. | ||
| This single act completely isolated the already existing Chinese population. | ||
| Here in America. | ||
| It's one of those things where it's just like with... | ||
| This gets worse. | ||
| Yeah, before you go any further. | ||
| It's just like with the opposition to slavery at the same time period. | ||
| It's like, we can't have these people slaves! | ||
| They're working for free! | ||
| Not, it's bad to enslave people. | ||
| It's that they're taking our jobs away. | ||
| Like, that's such a... | ||
| Fucking fuck you, America. | ||
| And how the exact same people will have different takes on it based on how, like, I'm comfortable, now I'm uncomfortable. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, I'll tell you what I know the problem is. | ||
| It definitely has nothing to do with the system that I've allowed myself to be worked under for this entire time. | ||
| No, it's probably... | ||
| The other guy. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 led to a period known as the Driving Out Period, where angry whites tried to drive out existing Chinese populations from places around them. | ||
| Or otherwise known as American history. | ||
| The Rock Springs Massacre of 1885 occurred when white miners in Sweetwater County, Wyoming, got mad about job competition and resorted to shooting, stabbing, and assaulting Chinese workers. | ||
| But white terrorism is an issue. | ||
| Many tried to flee, only to end up being burned alive in their homes and starved to death in hiding. | ||
| But white terrorism isn't an issue. | ||
| At the end of this, at least 28 people were dead, and none of the aggressors were arrested. | ||
| This was followed up by the Snake River Massacre in 1887, where 34 Chinese miners were murdered. | ||
| Chinatown in San Francisco would go on to be escape-goated for an outbreak of the Bubonic Plague in 1898, most likely caused by a French merchant ship that had arrived with a guy on it who had died of the plague. | ||
| As time wore on, the relations never really got to a place you might call good between the United States and China. | ||
| Odd. | ||
| Toward the end of the 1800s, Western business interests tried to get into the Chinese market, but were stalled by the Boxer Rebellion in 1899, where nationalist Chinese forces revolted against foreign influence in trade, politics, religion, and technology. | ||
| How dare they do what we did? | ||
| This rebellion? | ||
| How could you do that? | ||
| What are you talking- No! | ||
| How dare you ruin American relations with United States people when all we did was the same thing you did? | ||
| You're supposed to be better than us! | ||
| We're white! | ||
| We don't know any better! | ||
| The Boxer Rebellion was quelled by an alliance of mainly European powers and the United States. | ||
| How dare- Where these people do the thing on their own land? | ||
| In 1911, the United States recognized the Republic of China and Chiang Kai-shek as the legitimate government in China. | ||
| We supplied them with a ton of aid during the Second Sino-Japanese War. | ||
| Oh yeah, no, you don't want to be a part of that. | ||
| Yeah, getting around our isolationist stance by never saying that war was declared. | ||
| Give them aid. | ||
| Do not get in the middle of that. | ||
| We begin to like China only in so much as we hated Japan, and they were fighting Japan, so we softened on them a little bit. | ||
| As World War II broke out, Chiang Kai-shek was very helpful in making sure that China did not become a member of the Axis powers. | ||
| After the war in 1945, civil war broke out in China between the Nationalist Republic of China and the Communist People's Republic of China. | ||
| The United States supported the nationalists, but deemed direct intervention to stop the communists Which is a strange... | ||
| Abandon your allies. | ||
| That whole period of history is fucking... | ||
| It's fascinating because it's immediately following the end of World War II. | ||
| So it's immediately after VE Day and VJ Day. | ||
| Those are the same. | ||
| They're not the same day. | ||
| So the point is that the way that we treated Russia and China immediately after the end of World War II has dominated the entirety of our foreign policy with them since then. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Because we, you know, famously Eisenhower and Churchill were both like... | ||
| Fucking, let's go to town. | ||
| Let's finish Russia off while we got the chance. | ||
| We need to. | ||
| They're weak right now. | ||
| Let's take them down. | ||
| In the same way, China had just been decimated by the Japanese occupation, which was fucking brutal. | ||
| Like, the extent to which Japanese occupation was brutal is something that is not really quite as discussed in World War II literature as maybe it should be. | ||
| And when you think about why we got North Korea and South Korea, then we start talking about the Japanese occupation as well, and the way that we treated the Koreans immediately following World War II, and how we didn't do any goddamn shit there either. | ||
| But then the other question, of course, is, what exactly are we supposed to do? | ||
| Are we the only people who are supposed to do anything in these times? | ||
| And then the other one, but then we abandoned our, like, there's a whole long mess of things, and it was those small decisions made. | ||
| Immediately at the end of World War II. | ||
| Damaging. | ||
| That have really fucking set the course for both Russian and Chinese relations since then. | ||
| That's true, but then you've got to consider that at that point you already had a deep history since the literal beginning of our country of being real shitheads to the Chinese. | ||
| Well, we've been real shitheads to everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So after World War II, like you're saying, we decided it wasn't worth the effort to try and help the nationalists fight the communists. | ||
| As Secretary of State George Marshall told Congress, the cost of an all-out effort to see communist forces resisted and destroyed in China would clearly be all out of proportion to the result to be obtained. | ||
| In essence, we abandoned our ally who helped us avoid further complication in World War II and stood back as Mao and the Communists took over the country in 1949. | ||
| It would take the U.S. another 30 years to recognize that government, which would be six years after Rockefeller wrote his very short op-ed. | ||
| Between 1949 and 1971, U.S.-China relationships were entirely hostile. | ||
| They sided against us in the Cold War, and Mao's Cultural Revolution almost completely isolated China from the rest of the world for many years, even from communist countries such as the Soviet Union. | ||
| Nixon went to China after all... | ||
| Let's not forget that China was North Korea before North Korea. | ||
| Nixon went to China after what is known as the ping-pong diplomacy. | ||
| U.S. and Chinese ping-pong players getting along. | ||
| Which sounds really racist until you realize they're referring directly to ping-pong itself. | ||
| A couple ping-pong players got along and we all were like, hey, maybe we can all get along. | ||
| It seems very suspiciously like the Ching-Chong-Bing-Bong alliance, but no. | ||
| Yeah, so they ended up, it created an opportunity where an American ping pong player got to visit China and it opened up this possibility of other people visiting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It led to the opening of the U.S. liaison office in Beijing and the beginning of normalization of relations. | ||
| At the point that Rockefeller wrote his tiny op-ed article, the world had almost no access to China for decades. | ||
| And some of the assessments that he made as a, quote, China traveler were probably a little naive or generous, also taking into account that he wanted to try and get into the Chinese market now that it was open. | ||
| Reading that op-ed in that context, in my ears, it falls a long way short of open support for Mao and his authoritarian rule. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| The criticism made of Rockefeller's statement is valid, and it's terrible optics to minimize the brutal authority. | ||
| Well, adult mortality rates increased. | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| China had a life expectancy of 35 years in 1949, which went up to 66 years by 1976. | ||
| These stats are not enough to justify his policies, but it would be easy to see those sorts of things being persuasive signs to someone who came in and just got the lay of the land as a visiting tourist. | ||
| So what I'm saying is that David Rockefeller, I think he fucked up in making this op-ed. | ||
| It's a little hasty, possibly, but it's not an all-out sign of globalists being in favor of Mao's authoritarian rule. | ||
| It needs to be taken in the proper context that it existed in, which was decades and decades of terrible China relations only being opened up after a very bizarre ping-pong game. | ||
| Terrible relations largely due to our own actions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Not like, oh, why is China always being a dick to us? | |
| Why are they such assholes? | ||
| If you went to a conversation with any Chinese person and Nixon at that time, every single grievance the Chinese person would have would be like, yeah, no. | ||
| We totally did that. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| For sure. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Good point. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| What about that exclusion act? | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Good point. | |
| No, that was a good one. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| What about those massacres? | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| We loved those. | ||
| But now? | ||
| Now we're against them. | ||
| Yeah, sorry about that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded, not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. | |
| The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in history. | ||
| David Rockefeller, New York Times, August 10th, 1973. | ||
| Alright, did he really say that? | ||
| Yeah, that is a real quote from the article, but it's also taken out of context. | ||
| Then we're one for four, Dan! | ||
| Maybe five. | ||
| At least he said those words. | ||
| Communist China is the model, planned society, for the new world order. | ||
| China. | ||
| has received more United Nations awards for its policies and form of governance than any other nation. | ||
| I have no idea what that means. | ||
| What awards? | ||
| What awards? | ||
| I have no idea what that means. | ||
| I have no idea how to check that. | ||
| Who's giving out awards for... | ||
| What? | ||
|
unidentified
|
No idea. | |
| No idea. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What? | |
| No idea. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In the eyes of globalist planners, authoritarian China is the future. | ||
| Authoritarian. | ||
| China adopted the dreaded one-child policy due to lobbying. | ||
| From a consortium of eugenics organizations, which includes... | ||
| Nope! | ||
| Red flag! | ||
| Throw it up into the air! | ||
| Big red flag. | ||
| Throw it up into the air, Dan! | ||
| So do you want me to go through this about China so you can keep on eating? | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| So China is a country of a very large population, but also one of limited resources in many ways. | ||
| There's a terrible history of famines in the country, history between, with 1828 famines recorded between 108 B.C. and 1911 A.D., including the Northern Chinese Famine of 1876 through 1879, in which 9 to 13 million people died. | ||
| The Great Chinese Famine of 1958 through 1962 led to the deaths of about 15 to 30 million people due to starvation. | ||
| Famine in 1850 through 1873 led to the deaths of over 60 million people. | ||
| One in 1942 to 1943 killed 2 to 3 million. | ||
| One from 1936 to 1937 killed approximately 5 million. | ||
| Famine has historically been a major problem in China because of the weather patterns and high incidents of droughts. | ||
| However, all this has naturally been exacerbated at times by the warring states period and just general conflict, getting in the way of distribution of food or just burning down fields. | ||
| And more recently by Mao's government doing an absolutely shitty job of managing the resources that were available. | ||
| Didn't do a great job. | ||
| Weird way to describe Mao. | ||
| He could not really find his center. | ||
| So let me tell you about this guy. | ||
| Let me tell you about my boy, Mal. | ||
| Super wishy-washy about multiple children. | ||
| But he was. | ||
| I mean, he's got other qualities, but the one that I need you to know. | ||
| If you look at his history, you don't have a clear stance. | ||
| Well, yeah, because there's no clear stance. | ||
| Well, as he was rising to power, he was strongly in favor of larger populations, believing that more communists meant more power for him. | ||
| Towards the end, he was more amenable to birth control ideas, even launching a family planning initiative in 1971 with the slogan, One child is too few, two are just five. | ||
| The issue was that at the time, China was home to one quarter of the world's... | ||
| Otherwise known as the Goldilocks Initiative. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| China at the time was home to a quarter of the world's population with access to only 7% of the world's usable land. | ||
| Two-thirds of their population was under 30, and the baby boomers were entering the stage of life where they would reproduce. | ||
| This was all a complete disaster in the making for a country with a deep, deep history of famine. | ||
| Planned Parenthood was not involved in the creation of the one-child policy, but there is some concern that they may have not done enough to stop it or mitigate the crueler aspects of it. | ||
| Planned Parenthood is part of an organization called the International Planned Parenthood Federation, whose members also include the China Family Planning Association. | ||
| So there is a parent group that involves... | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| There's been some concern over the years whether or not the CFPA, the China Family Planning Association, has been complicit in the sterilizations and forced abortions that the Chinese government used to enforce with its reproductive rules. | ||
| Right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Articles trying to claim Planned Parenthood is complicit consistently make weak arguments that require caveats like, without being able to read Chinese or hop on a plane to investigate, it's unclear what CFPA... | |
| Well, then it's not clear! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of, like, soft bullshit like that. | ||
| That's immensely frustrating. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Because your argument then is anytime family planning of any sort comes about, it is Planned Parenthood. | ||
| But I will only mention it whenever family planning does not go the way that I want it to go. | ||
| That's the argument. | ||
| That's the entire argument right there. | ||
| Okay, so, yes. | ||
| Planned Parenthood has allowed so many women who otherwise would have been bogged down by children and yada, yada, yada, and all of this shit. | ||
| Sure, Planned Parenthood has given them an escape through that. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| But this one group of people in China who are maybe involved, or maybe they weren't, or maybe they couldn't been, or whatever, they had a thing, and that did a thing? | ||
| Planned Parenthood's fault. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And I think a better argument that you could make is that given the lack of evidence of outright participation in the disgusting practices that China has definitely engaged in enforcing their one-child policy, it's possible that the International Planned Parenthood Federation was interested in operating China as a way to offer self-directed. | ||
| birth control alternatives to the harsh, oppressive ones offered by the state. | ||
| The same goal can be reached by education or by force, and the path of force has always had too many consequences to be worthwhile, and possibly their efforts led to the end of the policy in 2015. | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| Well, that and the fact that... | ||
| You can blame them for not being effective enough, but they fucking tried. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Well, it is one of those be careful what you wish for situations, especially with the China's one-child policy. | ||
| If your culture prizes male children far above anything else, and it has a one-child policy for a long, long time, turns out... | ||
| There's going to be one woman for every five males. | ||
| It's not going to work. | ||
| Did not go well. | ||
| No, but at the same time... | ||
| Turns out there's a law called unintended consequences and they did not see that one coming. | ||
| Chaos theory, baby. | ||
| Did not see that one coming. | ||
| The factors that I brought up there and was discussing at the beginning of that in terms of the fucking disastrous famines, the situation they found themselves in in that baby boom, it's very understandable why those policies would be considered. | ||
| what they did in response to them are unforgivable. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Of course. | |
| And all of that. | ||
| But also Planned Parenthood wasn't involved. | ||
| And the only thing that any of the citations... | ||
| he offers or any weirdo dumbass website can prove is speculation. | ||
| It's just nonsense where they want to tar Planned Parenthood as being collaborators as opposed to possibly they were there trying to make it like We can do this better. | ||
| There's a better way. | ||
| Rather than you allowing your government to sterilize you, here's how condoms work. | ||
| That's essentially the idea behind that. | ||
| But irregardless, that is not a legitimate criticism to levy at Planned Parenthood. | ||
| Just because even if it is part of your going to their country, if you're going to talk about... | ||
| Fucking sovereignty or whatever it is like that. | ||
| If you're Planned Parenthood, you have a stated goal of not... | ||
| Doing whatever you can. | ||
| I mean, ultimately, what is the goal of Planned Parenthood? | ||
| Giving women agency over themselves. | ||
| Yeah, their health decisions. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So even if you're going to a place with a one-child policy... | ||
| That doesn't change your stated mission. | ||
| No, it actually makes it more important that you operate there than less. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So it's actually like... | ||
| If Planned Parenthood wasn't there trying to give agency to women there, I think I'd be more angry. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, that's the idea. | ||
| We'll punt on this one. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Our principles are that we want to help women make their own decisions and have control of their healthcare. | ||
| There's the place where it's worst. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Leave it alone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not our deal. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| Not our business. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| And this isn't the only lie that he tells about the one-child policy, if you believe that. | ||
| How could that be possible? | ||
| And the United Nations. | ||
| Couples that have more than one child face heavy fines and imprisonment. | ||
| This isn't always the case. | ||
| The practice of forced abortion in China, coupled with the cultural desire to have a male child, has plunged China. | ||
| Into a deepening crisis where there are 30 million more men than women. | ||
| The Chinese police state ruthlessly crushes all forms of dissent. | ||
| Underground churches, Falun Gong practitioners, striking factory workers are all sent to forced labor camps. | ||
| Their blood and tissue types are catalogued. | ||
| God, change churches to mosques and you have America. | ||
| Did not know that. | ||
| You didn't know that? | ||
| No, I didn't know that. | ||
|
unidentified
|
They do some organ sales and stuff like that. | |
| That's pretty fucked up. | ||
| That's pretty fucked up. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I'm not sure if it's as a la carte as he's describing. | |
| Well, yeah, you want the whole package, right? | ||
| Like, you don't pay for the undercoating. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| The social engineers of China aggressively euthanize the elderly and disabled. | ||
| Yeah, but that's just good planning. | ||
| China is merely following the globalist blueprint for the world. | ||
| The same system of total dehumanization. | ||
| That leads to roads in Texas! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world. | |
| Henry Kissinger, 1974. | ||
| That can't be true. | ||
| You don't think that's true? | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| That was a fake quote. | ||
| Of course it's a depopulation. | ||
| If you're Henry Kissinger, look, again, I hate Henry Kissinger. | ||
| He sucks. | ||
| I hope he dies. | ||
| He's the worst. | ||
| But there's no way that you would allow anyone to hear and then record you saying depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world. | ||
| That, even for Kissinger, who may have said it in private, would never say it in public. | ||
| Do you want to know where this comes from? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This comes from an internet meme. | ||
| Written by Henry Kissinger. | ||
| Most likely before that, it was a message board meme attributing the following quote to Kissinger. | ||
| Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world because the United States economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries. | ||
| This quote cannot be authenticated, however. | ||
| If you just try to source the part of it, the quote, the U.S. The US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries. | ||
| I bet somebody else comes up. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You'll find that that portion of the quote is taken from the biodiversity assessment that we were talking about earlier. | ||
|
unidentified
|
No! | |
| It's the same fucking place? | ||
|
unidentified
|
And they just give it to different names whenever they feel like it? | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| The second part of the quote that Alex isn't using, this part is the fake part of the quote. | ||
| This part is completely made up. | ||
| It's just that he's hacked off the real part of the end to make it much more difficult to Google. | ||
| He's trying to make it harder to find out that he's just fabricating quotes. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, he's lying on another level of lying. | ||
| Yeah, it's secondary shit. | ||
| That's actually solid. | ||
| That's a solid move on his. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| The beginning of the quote, what's here in Alex Jones' documentary, does not appear in the text. | ||
| And the following is the context of the second part of the text. | ||
| Whatever may be done to guard against interruptions of supply and develop domestic alternatives, the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries. | ||
| That fact gives the US enhanced interest in the political, economic, and social stability of the supplying countries. | ||
| Wherever a lessening of population pressures through the reduced birth rates can increase the prospects for such stability population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies and to the economic interests of the United States. | ||
| There is a thin veneer of similarity in terms of, like, well, he is talking about population issues, but he's not talking about how population control should be our highest priority, or depopulation. | ||
| And he is Kissinger, so it could be that he is talking about that. | ||
| Well, so researchers looked into the quote that Alex uses, and they've only been able to trace it back, like, the furthest back they can get instances of it. | ||
| Are a Louis Farrakhan speech and an interview with the anti-nuclear activist Lorraine Monet as being the most likely public sources, earliest public sources of the misquoting. | ||
| Both claim to be quoting the same source of Kissinger. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| But they are not. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Yeah, so I don't know. | ||
| I mean, this is just a fake quote. | ||
| So if I understand correctly. | ||
| Alex falls for internet memes a lot. | ||
| A fake quote quoted from people. | ||
| Who we're faking the quote is in this documentary. | ||
| Documentary in heavy quotes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And it's the fourth out of five. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, it's the correct level of lie for this documentary. | |
| All of these quotes are fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is the easiest thing as an editor or someone putting together a documentary to figure out. | ||
| Is this quote real? | ||
| Can I find it in the public record? | ||
| Is it in the text? | ||
| That's the easiest fucking thing to do and Alex didn't think to do that. | ||
| It's weird that that's within the definition of quote. | ||
| Like the entire point of the word quote is I am directly taking... | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| That's why we have a separate word for when you're not doing that called paraphrase. | ||
| I am not reaching for the spirit of what this guy is trying to say. | ||
| I'm not summarizing it. | ||
| I am taking directly word for word. | ||
| So when I say, quote, this man said this, you can be sure. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| This man said, word for word, exactly what you said. | ||
| When you are quoting somebody for a documentary or a research paper or of the like, one thing that you should be sure to do is to get every word right. | ||
| Every single word right. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| Otherwise you have to say you're paraphrasing. | ||
| Otherwise you have to say you're paraphrasing. | ||
| Or admit you're lying. | ||
| And you know what's worse? | ||
| He would have a defensible case if he was saying he was paraphrasing. | ||
| No, you wouldn't, because the spirit is still off. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Not really. | |
| Not really. | ||
| But, I mean, I'm more defensible. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, if we were doing this documentary, and then Alex Jones, before he introduces these white letters on a black background with ominous music behind him, if he says, to paraphrase David Rockefeller, you'd be like... | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, I found parts of this quote. | ||
|
unidentified
|
To kind of malign David Rockefeller, here's the quote. | |
| So here's where this really comes from. | ||
| I know it's not a quote, but that kind of thing. | ||
| Now, Jordan. | ||
| It would just make things harder for you. | ||
| I agree, because then I'd be like, wow, I've got to find something similar to that? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Let me ask you this before we get back. | ||
| Those glasses versus Jim Tucker's hat. | ||
| Glasses, for sure. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Look at those. | ||
| Those are fucking tight. | ||
|
unidentified
|
There's a need for a new world order. | |
| Oh, God, why do I always choose Kissinger when it comes to looks? | ||
|
unidentified
|
In different parts of the world. | |
| Now, none of this may succeed this time, but this, to me, is sort of the outline by which someday, in the next few years, a solution will emerge. | ||
| a final where does this mindset come from why do the elites kill the largest mass I feel like that's a simple answer. | ||
| We're about to enter a section of this documentary that is about eugenics. | ||
| We're about to enter a section that's about Alex Jones. | ||
| Well, that's what... | ||
| When he says, what is it that makes these people think the way they do? | ||
| What I hear is, I'm about to tell you what makes me think. | ||
| He's going to talk a ton about eugenics, and this is the part of the documentary where I kind of have to take a step back. | ||
| I kind of have to be like, you're misleading people about what eugenics was as a broader picture, but he's not wrong in a lot of cases. | ||
| No, generally speaking, if you throw out eugenics, even with bad information... | ||
| You're closer to the truth than if you throw out David Rockefeller is a Jew. | ||
| The idea that a lot of scientists that we hold up in fairly high esteem had long dalliances with eugenics ideas. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You got your gravity from a guy who believed that lead could be turned into gold. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Also, he was crazy for other reasons. | ||
| That's the caveat I'm going to make for the next bit of this documentary. | ||
| It's like, well, yeah, I can't fucking argue that eugenics was real fucking popular for a while. | ||
| What you just did was preemptively explain the fact that you'll be eating through most of this part. | ||
| I might be eating a little bit. | ||
| Since Plato's time, 2,400 years ago. | ||
| State planners have openly proclaimed their desire to control every detail of the commoner's life. | ||
| From breeding programs to mass extermination of undesirables. | ||
| The dark dream has continued on for millennia. | ||
| It's all Plato's fault! | ||
|
unidentified
|
*Music* | |
| The scientific rationale for tyranny has always been attractive to elites. | ||
| Because it creates a convenient excuse for treating their fellow man as lower than animals. | ||
| Also, there was a period of time where the idea of genetics and hereditary traits was new, and the explosion of possible applications of it was new, and we didn't. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Then you had phrenology and all that shit. | |
| I don't want to hear Alex ever talk about reasons. | ||
| I don't want to hear him talk about how... | ||
| Oh, this is why they demonized other people. | ||
| Alex, you found plenty of reasons on your own, and half of them are eugenics-based! | ||
| But I'm just trying to say that there is a pretty simple explanation for why eugenics was popular. | ||
| It was on the vanguard of science back then, and people hadn't realized, ah, shit. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| When you mix super intelligent people with super racist people, you're going to wind up getting super intelligent reasons for being racist. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Robert Thomas Malthus, famous for saying that a mass food collapse would be helpful because it would wipe out the poor. | ||
| His fictional scenario would later be called a Malthusian catastrophe. | ||
| Malthus is important because his ideas led to the rise of a new scientific field. | ||
| So real quick, about Malthus, he didn't want to wipe out the poor. | ||
| In fact, he supported helping the poor. | ||
| However, he had some weird ideas about moral character being lacking in the poor. | ||
| I want to hear this. | ||
| And he had some ideas about sort of self-control being essential to having a successful life. | ||
| Anyway, he had a lot of value-based stuff that was unnecessary. | ||
| But be that as it may, the term Malthusian catastrophe refers to a situation that Malthus warned about, namely a situation where population increase outpaced agricultural production. | ||
| He warned that when that happened, there would be a disaster and the deaths would be plentiful. | ||
| Alex uses one source as a citation for this and he doesn't specify where in the book he's talking about. | ||
| It's like a 600-page book. | ||
| But I found this text in there that... | ||
| Close enough. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| So we should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this mortality of the poor he's talking about. | ||
| And if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid forms of famine, we should seditiously encourage the other forms of destruction which we compel nature to use. | ||
| Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. | ||
| In other towns... | ||
| In our towns, we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into the houses. | ||
| I'm starting to hear sarcasm. | ||
| Yeah, and court the return of the plague. | ||
| In the country, we should build our villages near stagnant pools and particularly encourage settlements in all marshy and unwholesome situations. | ||
| I don't think he's being serious, Dan. | ||
| But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases and those benevolent. | ||
| But much mistaken men who have thought they were doing a service to mankind by projecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders. | ||
| He is a Jonathan Swift type. | ||
| He is talking about Alex. | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| Alex takes him literally and it's just... | ||
| Here's what we should do. | ||
| That's a modest proposal. | ||
| We should get rid of vaccines. | ||
| Vaccines are the reason that the poor are allowed to have all these diseases. | ||
| We gotta get rid of them. | ||
| But he's clearly being facetious. | ||
| Yes, obviously. | ||
| He's making... | ||
| Making the point that, like, if you don't want to be concerned about the potential for the poor to feed themselves, then why not fucking bring back the plague, you dumbass? | ||
| So what our ultimate argument... | ||
| He's making a stupid argument to highlight how stupid it is that you don't fucking support people who are in a disastrous situation. | ||
| We should never have hipped dumb people to sarcasm. | ||
| Because that screwed us. | ||
| I don't think we have. | ||
| They should never have heard about it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
I don't think Alex does know. | |
| Oh, that's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We should actually be going out and explaining what sarcasm and satire is on a daily basis. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Satire. | |
| Satire. | ||
| Would dominate the course of human history for the next 200 plus years. | ||
| Charles Darwin, an admirer of the Malthusian catastrophe. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But Alex is lying about Malthus, so the idea that Darwin admired him. | ||
| That's not suspicious or weird. | ||
| Develop the theory of evolution, its chief tenet being the survival of the fittest. | ||
| With the help of T.H. Huxley, known as Darwin's bulldog for his strong support of Darwin's theories, Darwin's theories were pushed into wide acceptance among key scientific circles throughout England, and then the world. | ||
| Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, credited as the father of eugenics, saw an opportunity to advance mankind by taking the reins of Darwin's evolution theory and applied social principles to develop social Darwinism. | ||
| The families, Darwin, Galton, Huxley, and Wedgwood were so obsessed with their new social design theory that they pledged their families would only breed with each other. | ||
| That's not strictly speaking true. | ||
| If you look at their birth chart, there's people who intermarry through other families. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| There's not really all that. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But also, I just want to be clear about this, just because it's like... | ||
| It seems very uncommon to us, but intermarrying within your family, like marrying your cousin or your second cousin, was not uncommon in Britain in the 1800s. | ||
| So Alex saying that these guys, they intermarried with each other, that is... | ||
| That was kind of a regular... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of the times it was because... | ||
| We have places called Kentucky. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's not even in Britain. | ||
| But there's so many reasons to do that, it's unnecessary to get into. | ||
| They falsely predicted that within only a few generations, they would produce Superman. | ||
| I get it! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Nazis! | |
| The emerging pseudoscience was only codifying the practice of inbreeding, already popular within elites for millennia. | ||
| The Four Families experiment was a disaster. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Within only two generations of inbreeding, close to 90% of their offspring either died at mirth... | |
| It's all about retaining property within a family. | ||
| The moneyed class of the planet, and particularly the royal families of the world, who are already obsessed with breeding and filled with a predatory disdain for the underclass, Yeah, but that makes sense for them. | ||
| The reason it makes sense is because nobody wants to admit that they have their money for no real reason. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's humbling. | ||
| Oh, this is just random-ass luck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy over there who doesn't have any money, if I was born differently, I could have been him. | ||
| We're the same person. | ||
| Can't be that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, if you go back through... | ||
| It's devastating. | ||
| And again, if you go back through... | ||
| Your ego won't allow it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, what we've talked about with fucking Trump, if you go back through his family, of course they're fucking racist eugenicists because none of them want to admit, I'm just as random-ass dude if I didn't have money. | ||
| Yeah, if I didn't figure out a couple of real nice scams, I would just be an asshole. | ||
| You can't allow yourself to admit that. | ||
| So, of course, if you're a fucking inbred king, you're not going to be like, well, anybody could do my job. | ||
| You have to be like, well, it's because of genetics. | ||
| That's the reason my family has money. | ||
| It's because of genetics. | ||
| Not just because we've fucked over everybody that's ever gotten in our way. | ||
| Because apparently, maybe it is genetics, Dan. | ||
| Maybe... | ||
| Sociopathy is something that you can transfer down through the line so you never have to deal with the fact that other human beings are also real. | ||
| Well, now you're in shape to listen to the rest of this. | ||
| Now I'm a eugenicist, Dan. | ||
| Evil people are fucking evil because of money. | ||
| Biometrics appears to be a new science. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| It was actually developed by Galton back in the 80s and 70s as a way to track racial traits and genetic histories. | ||
| James Bond got a license to breed. | ||
| The Cold Springs Harbor Research Facility was started in the United States by eugenicist Charles Davenport with the funding of prominent robber barons Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Harriman. | ||
| The Cold Springs Harbor is much bigger than the eugenics piece that Alex is talking about, but he's pretending it's the entire research laboratory facility. | ||
| There was a eugenics department in it that was widely ignored, Right. | ||
| On account of its eugenics department. | ||
| And once they found out about it in 1935, they're like, fucking stop. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| They had their funding shut off and they were closed in 1939. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| But be that as it may, he thinks that Cold Harbor, Cold Springs Harbor is this one... | ||
| Unipolar, just everybody's the same. | ||
| And it's not. | ||
| There were people who were doing agricultural experiments. | ||
| There were people who were doing animal husbandry. | ||
| This is something that I've been... | ||
| Okay, so here's the hard part about eugenics. | ||
| When we're talking about eugenics, if you stop and think of what we did to dogs, what we turned wolves into and we now call dogs, that's eugenics. | ||
| That is the concept of eugenics is if you find certain characteristics over time, if you have complete control over those, you can breed further enhancement of those characteristics. | ||
| Somewhat, yeah. | ||
| So you then follow human beings are animals just like dogs, so we can do the same thing there. | ||
| Right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The problem comes... | |
| It's not that I want the dog to be smarter or anything like that. | ||
| It's that this dog is much better at finding bah, so I'm going to breed it with a dog that's better at bah, like that whole thing. | ||
| You're going very specific. | ||
| I think that's a lot of the lessons that they started to learn in the 1930s, and that's why a lot of this stopped. | ||
| A lot of it was like... | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Because when you start throwing in human eugenics, then you start throwing in biases people have towards race, standing, class, all of this shit. | ||
| Like, legitimately, if we were to X out all of the other factors and just go by genetics, like, at the purest level, this guy has large feet, this lady has large feet. | ||
| And then breed accordingly with no regard for anything else, eventually you're going to get huge feet. | ||
| That's how genes work. | ||
| Probabilistically, yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if you really worked for 30 or 40,000 years at it, you could breed some people with huge ass feet. | ||
| If society had some sort of extinction pressure that was about foot size, you could conceivably do that with enough time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You're not going to get some sort of... | ||
| Superman or anything like that. | ||
| What you're going to wind up doing is just going for the most dumb surface level shit. | ||
| So if somebody starts telling you, well, we can breathe for intelligence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then you go, go fuck yourself. | ||
| You're a lying piece of shit. | ||
| And so much of it comes down to really antiquated models of morality being based in some sort of a genetic deformity or some sort of genetic defect. | ||
| And you come into like, oh, well, what's immoral to you isn't immoral to someone else. | ||
| It's a hot mess. | ||
| But yes, we could get big feet. | ||
| Yeah, we could. | ||
| If you want to believe in eugenics, technically speaking... | ||
| We could get big feet. | ||
| I'm glad we were able to come around to that. | ||
| I just... | ||
| Because eugenics really frustrates me because I feel like you always wind up... | ||
| The more... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Eugenics isn't a blanket negative word. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's not all as bad as the word is. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| The way that the word has always been applied is discriminatory and monstrous. | ||
| But from a purely let's all step back, Before we knew that discrimination was bad. | ||
| And you hear these people saying eugenics and you're like, well it kind of makes sense because look at what we did to dogs and cats and yada yada yada. | ||
| We domesticated them. | ||
| That whole thing. | ||
| My problem with eugenics is that people often mistake it for the idea of something intrinsic. | ||
| Like some sort of value is genetic. | ||
| You know like morality. | ||
| We can breed morality. | ||
| You just coughed. | ||
| That's how revolutionary I know. | ||
| My chest is blown. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not my mind, but my chest. | ||
| No, it's like, it's so hard to explain eugenics in such a way that satisfies both my inability to divorce humanity's idea of speciality from the rest of the animal kingdom, you know? | ||
| Like, of course eugenics could work. | ||
| We're animals. | ||
| We're animals. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That kind of a thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| While at the same time divorcing it from the evil of like, Well, you know, of course, if you have a skull that's three and four-thirds inches long, you're much smarter than somebody else. | ||
| You know, that kind of a thing. | ||
| Using eugenics on humans in any... | ||
| Not a good idea. | ||
| Well, especially in any, like, sort of changeable way, like it does anything to them is... | ||
| I think that's intrinsically immoral. | ||
| Unless you are of the Atreides line and you are the god-emperor of Dune. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Shut up, Herbert. | ||
| Right, Dune? | ||
| Yeah, Frank Herbert. | ||
| Five points for me. | ||
| Yeah, five points for you. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| It's 20 to 10. In 1907, the first sterilization laws were passed in the United States. | ||
| Spoiler alert, we're about to get to my favorite thing Alex lies about in this entire documentary. | ||
| Citizens with mild deformities or low test scores on their report cards were arrested and forcibly sterilized. | ||
|
unidentified
|
You're 17, aren't you, Alex? | |
| Yes. | ||
| Look, be very careful. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Watch for a jump cut. | ||
| This was made in 1934, right? | ||
| 39. Oh, 34, yeah. | ||
| Watch for a jump cut. | ||
|
unidentified
|
A lot of them said this morning, we thought it necessary to present your family's case to the state medical commission. | |
| After an examination, they decided there was one important action to take, to have your entire family sterilized. | ||
| Well, what's that? | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| Now, in this state, we have a law which provides for such people to have an operation so there won't be any more children. | ||
| I see. | ||
| Now, we've placed your brothers in institutions where they'll be properly cared for. | ||
| What if you go back to your job soon? | ||
| I'll arrange to have it held open for you. | ||
| But I'm keeping my job. | ||
| I'm not going anywhere. | ||
| Well, you're going to the hospital too, Alice. | ||
| And you mean they're going to stop me from having children ever? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm all right, I tell you. | ||
| I won't go to any hospital. | ||
| We don't want any trouble. | ||
| Oh, whoa! | ||
| She is standing real quick. | ||
|
unidentified
|
The officer here will take you by force. | |
| In 1910. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Who directed this? | ||
| This is my favorite thing. | ||
| Who directed this? | ||
| So for no reason, I watched this movie. | ||
| And Michael Bay directed. | ||
| Alex is presenting it as a pro-eugenics movie. | ||
| It is the exact opposite. | ||
| It is so anti-eugenics. | ||
| You can tell just from that little scene. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
|
unidentified
|
What are you talking about? | |
| The people trying to make this girl get sterilized are clearly the bad guys. | ||
| I know! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's even more fucked up, though. | ||
| It's so bizarre. | ||
| So that girl... | ||
| What type of pro-eugenics movie is going to have a cherub-faced, young, beautiful girl being like... | ||
| But I don't want you to take me. | ||
| I'm about to get married. | ||
| Eugenics are great. | ||
| Make sure you kill all of these attractive people. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I'll walk you through the plot of this movie. | ||
| So you got this young lady. | ||
| I can't remember her name. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Eugenics. | ||
| So she's part of this family, right? | ||
| Her parents are drunks. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Well, then we gotta get rid of her. | ||
| And she's got two younger brothers. | ||
| One has a bum leg, and the other is mentally defective. | ||
| Oh, you gotta eugenics those bitches! | ||
| He will only sit around playing with his dad's empty whiskey bottles. | ||
| What?! | ||
| So one day, the... | ||
| The mom. | ||
| So apparently we've learned how autism works. | ||
| The mom has a stillborn child, right? | ||
| The baby dies. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Got to eugenics that bitch. | ||
| And so one day the doctor comes over. | ||
| Very, very awesome hero character doctor comes over. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And is like trying to check up on her. | ||
| And him coming over is like, hey, that bum leg. | ||
| That could be fixed. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What's up? | |
| That could be fixed. | ||
| What's up with your bum leg? | ||
| That's very easy. | ||
| I'm going to send a doctor over to help you out. | ||
| And so in the process of the doctor coming over, they realize that, like, these kids are a mess. | ||
| This family sucks. | ||
| They're drunks, too. | ||
| Let's fucking sterilize all these people. | ||
| And so the state offers them a bunch of assistance money if they will all get sterilized. | ||
| And so the parents sign away. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That sounds like something that would never happen post... | ||
| 2012 United States? | ||
| The parents sign away the daughters. | ||
| Actually, we might still be doing that. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| I think we might still be doing that. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| Anyways, that's the thing that's been done in the United States for the past, all the time. | ||
| Be that as it may, the parents say, like, okay, yeah, we'll get the daughter to come and get her tubes tied to, she'll never have kids, or whatever. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| She's about to get married to this guy. | ||
| And he's supposed to be this really lovable character. | ||
| But there's a point that he's driving her home in the car. | ||
| And he asks her to marry her. | ||
| Oh, is he a secret? | ||
| No, he's a good character. | ||
| But he's a good character for 1934. | ||
| And that means he's like, I want to marry you. | ||
| And she's like, I don't know if I'm ready. | ||
| He's like, do I have to sock you? | ||
| It's like, holy shit! | ||
| He threatens to hit her! | ||
| And then they're both smiling. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Alright. | |
| And whatever. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| This is why we can't watch old movies anymore. | ||
| So the government comes and they're like, you gotta go. | ||
| We're gonna get these tubes tied. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the doctor who had come over initially is like... | ||
| Doctor number one. | ||
| Yeah, he's like... | ||
| Doctor Demento. | ||
| She's a good kid. | ||
| She's working a job and supporting the family with the drunk parents. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| There's no reason to sterilize her. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| That's nonsense. | ||
| No, she's one of the good ones, which again, muddles your argument just a little bit. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Don't sterilize based on family. | ||
| Sterilize based on person. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| So the argument that this good doctor is presenting throughout the entire thing is like, I understand where sterilization could work, but the way we're doing it is capricious. | ||
| The way we're doing it is completely unnecessary. | ||
| It's blind. | ||
| He's the voice of conscience in the fucking movie along the whole way. | ||
| So he's fighting against it. | ||
| He's trying to make sure that they don't fucking sterilize her. | ||
| And it's not possible. | ||
| She gets remanded to the hospital by court. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And so she's there, and she's going to get fucking stabbed. | ||
| How long is this movie? | ||
| It's like an hour. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| All of this happens in an hour? | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Dude, have you been watching the documentary we're watching? | ||
| We're on eight and a half hours, and I still don't know what's going on. | ||
| So, here's the... | ||
| At least the movie you've described has a plot, fucking rolls along, gets through all of it, nails out the plot points, and then bring it home with the victory. | ||
| I will say it jumps around a bit. | ||
| Does she get euthanized? | ||
| Not euthanized, sterilized. | ||
| So, here's the twist. | ||
| What ends up happening... | ||
| She does get euthanized. | ||
| My mom gets super drunk. | ||
| And the fiancé has the town priest over, and they're like, you gotta do something to help her! | ||
| Oh, is this like an O 'Henry thing where the mom sterilizes the dad, and the dad was like, oh, for Christmas I got you sterilized! | ||
| No, they're already both sterilized. | ||
| Oh, okay, okay. | ||
| But the mom's all drunk, and she's like, she's not even my daughter, she's a foundling. | ||
| Wait, so now that's fine. | ||
| They call the judge, and the judge calls the hospital. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, because she's not actually related? | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
|
unidentified
|
The end resolution of the movie is not good. | |
| So, okay, so, in this movie, advocating for maybe human beings shouldn't be categorized based on their social circumstances, at the end of it... | ||
| The movie's like, thank God she was categorized based on her social circumstances. | ||
| But they needed a way out of the plot without being too subversive. | ||
| I get the film system in 1934. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| We can't tell too complex a plot. | ||
| We have to do a deus ex machina kind of thing to get us out of this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The plot, the message of the movie is the message of that doctor. | ||
| And it's clearly the way we're doing this is not right. | ||
| We are cruel and inhuman. | ||
| And Alex using that as a pro-eugenics film is fucking laughable. | ||
| It would have been. | ||
| And he clearly edited that to make it look like that scene was saying more than it was saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean... | ||
| I recommend Tomorrow's Children. | ||
| Great film. | ||
| It's far too much to hope for that they would portray black people in that movie, which is who they were doing all of the eugenics to. | ||
| Yeah, the two criminals who end up getting sterilized are both white. | ||
| One's like Catatonic and the other is just kind of crazy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Generally speaking... | ||
| Kind of crazy, but good natured. | ||
| Sterilization was used on black people. | ||
| Almost exclusively as a weapon. | ||
| They did make one really good salient jab in the movie, I thought, which shocked me for 1934, which was that when the girl had to go to court to be decided if she was going to be sterilized, because they were appealing her case, another character was due to be in court, and it was the son of the governor. | ||
| And, like, he's back in chambers, and there's a nurse there who's, like, trying to keep him together, and he, like, rips off her shirt. | ||
| And he's, like, some sort of maniac. | ||
| And the governor, the dad, is, like, keep it together, keep it together. | ||
| And the lawyer comes over and is, like, you're all right, you're all right. | ||
| And the lawyer walks him out, and this guy is, like, he has makeup to make him look like a fucking... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He looks like Dracula, frankly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And, like, you know, he's sorry for his actions in the past, and he's the son of the... | ||
| The governor and the judge is like, I think this guy is great. | ||
| He doesn't need to be sterilized. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| So there is like this class message. | ||
| So it's very much like he's acting like a fucking unleashed Renfield. | ||
| Predator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| There is that subversive message within that movie. | ||
| Why are we talking about tomorrow's children this much? | ||
| This is pre-studio system, right? | ||
| Like this is before all of the... | ||
| Like, you can't show this, you can't show that. | ||
| Like, all of the self-regulating that the Hollywood system did. | ||
| I think I just realized I liked this movie. | ||
| I think you like this movie. | ||
| I think you genuinely do. | ||
| I didn't like the movie. | ||
| It was fine, though. | ||
| But I liked watching it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Please, mister! | |
| I don't want to be stare-lost! | ||
| I liked watching it and, like, realizing that Alex is a fucking idiot. | ||
| Why would you show a movie that's... | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Because of course he did. | ||
| Only Alex would consist... | ||
| Like, this is a pattern of behavior. | ||
| This isn't just like, oh, he fucked up and showed a movie that was made entirely to disprove his point. | ||
| He edited it specifically. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because it talked about eugenics, he edited it to make it fit his point. | ||
| He's doing it purposefully. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That was what charmed me about it the most. | ||
| He's trying to find anything that disagrees with him and then cut it and put it in a way to make it look like it agrees with him. | ||
| Thus, one, of course, invalidating his own argument, but who cares? | ||
| His argument was invalid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Two, confusing whether or not anything means anything. | ||
| Nothing means anything. | ||
| Right? | ||
| U.S. Eugenics Record Office was set up. | ||
| By then, the British had created the first network of social workers expressly to serve as spies and enforcers of the eugenics race cult. | ||
| Citation needed. | ||
|
unidentified
|
So, all social workers are trying to steal your kids. | |
| The social workers would decide who would have their children taken away, who would be sterilized, and in some cases, who would be quietly murdered. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa! | |
| Is that Reagan? | ||
| This is from yesterday's children. | ||
| In 1911, the Rockefeller family exports eugenics to Germany by bankrolling the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Let's get into it, Dan. | ||
| The important point to make is that eugenics as a worldwide phenomenon... | ||
| It long predates the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute existing in Germany way predated the Nazis. | ||
| So the connection between them is not really concrete. | ||
| Now, at the same time, there's a lot of questions about the things that may or may not have been studied at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute during the war, but drawing a causal and linear relationship there is not appropriate. | ||
| Which later would form a central pillar in the Third Reich. | ||
| At the 1912 International Eugenics Conference in London, eugenics becomes an international craze and gains superstar status. | ||
| The futurist and best-selling sci-fi author H.G. Wells had studied biology under top eugenicist and was spreading the new faith worldwide. | ||
| Boy, if there's anything I know about H.G. Wells. | ||
| Is that he loved eugenics. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It comes out in all his works. | ||
| Everything I know that H.G. Wells has written has always come down hard on the we should... | ||
| Do you want to know one more thing about him? | ||
| I can't even keep this up. | ||
| There's one more new thing you're going to learn here. | ||
| I can't be so angry this long. | ||
| H.G. Wells' lover, Margaret Sanger, starts her promotion of eugenics in the United States. | ||
| In 1923, Sanger receives massive funding from the Rockefeller family. | ||
| Sanger. | ||
| So, when he's saying this in 1923 that she received... | ||
| When he's Sanger-ing it. | ||
| When he's Sanger-ing that she got a lot of money in 1923 from Rockefeller, what's important to remember... | ||
| What? | ||
| ...is that by 1923, Margaret Sanger had been fighting a very unpopular fight to try and provide access to birth control and health services to women. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| For a long time. | ||
| In 1914, she started a monthly newsletter called The Woman Rebel. | ||
| The woman rebel with the slogan, no gods, no masters. | ||
| She produced this newsletter antagonistically in large part because she wanted to create a legal challenge for the Comstock Act of 1873 regarding obscenity, which made it illegal to disseminate information about contraception. | ||
| Postal authorities would go on to suppress the release of five out of the seven issues she would create. | ||
| In August 1914, Sanger was indicted for violating obscenity laws, but instead of going to trial, she fled to England. | ||
| On October 26, 1916, Sanger was arrested for operating a women's clinic in New York's then-poverty-ridden Lower East Side. | ||
| She was arrested, and when she was released, she reopened the clinic, was arrested again. | ||
| At that point, she reopened the clinic again. | ||
| The police responded by shutting the clinic down for good. | ||
| When she went to court for this charge, she was found guilty, and the judge held that women do not have, quote, the right to copulate with a feeling of security that there will be no resulting conception. | ||
|
unidentified
|
What a brilliant legal decision. | |
| That's a fucking judge. | ||
| They don't have the right to fuck without getting pregnant. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's... | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| I have read the Constitution. | ||
| Right. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Mm-hmm. | |
| Sounds right to me. | ||
| She was sentenced to 30 days in a workhouse. | ||
| She appealed the... | ||
| That's also in the Constitution that if you say women have the right to fuck, you gotta work for it. | ||
| She appealed that and it was rejected, but in 1918 her appeal was heard and the case set the precedent that it exempted physicians from the law prohibiting the distribution of contraception information to women, provided it was prescribed for medical reasons. | ||
| That was illegal up until that point. | ||
| That's crazy for doctors. | ||
| Everybody is stupid forever, always. | ||
| Every time we find out one of Alex's enemies, you discover... | ||
| How amazingly awesome they were. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like, look! | ||
| Okay, here's the thing. | ||
| Here's the thing about this. | ||
| I, like, if Phyllis Schlafly, who should be lit on fire, and then... | ||
| When her soul is brought back from hell, lit on fire again, tossed down there again, and so on and so forth, because I never want her to get comfortable anywhere. | ||
| I don't want her to be comfortable in her eternal torment. | ||
| I want her to have to keep bouncing around anymore. | ||
| You're basically a poet. | ||
| But, if Schlafly had a history as badass as that, of like, oh, you're gonna shut me down? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I'm gonna do it again. | ||
| Oh, you're gonna put me in jail? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I'm gonna do it again. | ||
| Oh, you're gonna tell me I have to do this shit? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I'm gonna do it again. | ||
| I'm gonna appeal this shit. | ||
| And at the end of that, a precedent is set that said Phyllis Schlafly, as monstrous as she is, can still be a monster. | ||
| I'd be like, fuck! | ||
| I disagree with you, but I respect the goddamn hell out of that. | ||
| And he can't even do that. | ||
| They can't do that. | ||
| They can't be like, look at what a badass she is. | ||
| I disagree with her, but... | ||
| Look at that badassness! | ||
| And there's no point of it's like, well, she must really wholeheartedly believe in providing women's health. | ||
| No, it's because she's a demon, Dan. | ||
| It's not because she's a badass. | ||
| It's not because she gives a shit. | ||
| It's not because of any of these things. | ||
| It's because she's a demon. | ||
| Anytime anybody who does something that disagrees with what you do so hard, so heartfully, so meaningfully... | ||
| It is not because they experience that meaning at the same level as you do. | ||
| It's not because they are also a human. | ||
| It's because the only way somebody could come at you like that is if they're controlled by Satan. | ||
| And thus, you understand Islamophobia, apparently. | ||
| And Alex is pretending that along that entire road she was receiving money from these globalists and Rockefellers. | ||
| Well, who else is going to finance those legal battles? | ||
| She fucking wasn't. | ||
| It's true that John D. Rockefeller Jr. did support Sanger's work around that point in 1923. | ||
| Like everybody should. | ||
| But that's not telling the entire story. | ||
| The reason that Alex chose that date specifically to bring up is that that's the year that Sanger opened the country's first legal birth control clinic. | ||
| But he's leaving out that around this time, Sanger also married her second husband, oil businessman, Noah H. Slee, and he provided much of the funding for her efforts. | ||
| So the Rockefellers did start... | ||
| It was hard to come in once it became legal that she was running a birth control clinic. | ||
| But they weren't involved before that. | ||
| She was getting screwed all over the place and people were not helping her. | ||
| She carried this crusade for a very long time and then once it was legal, some outside funding came in and she got married to this really rich dude and he gave a bunch of money to her. | ||
| Which, unfortunately, lessens it a little bit for me. | ||
| It doesn't because she's already carried the crusade for decades. | ||
| But the problem is now... | ||
|
unidentified
|
I've got it in my head that it's like, hmm, I wish rich people weren't involved. | |
| Yeah, but at the same time, maybe... | ||
| Poor people are never going to be able to do it on their own, are we, Dan? | ||
| Maybe oil businessman J. Noah H. Slee. | ||
| Maybe he was woke as shit. | ||
| J. Noah H. Slee? | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| With a name like that, he's got to be woke. | ||
| Again, another crazy fucking name. | ||
| Where did these come from? | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I wrote to fellow eugenicist Clarence J. Gamble that black leaders would need to be recruited. | ||
| Doesn't sound right. | ||
| I'm just going to ignore that. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenicist and conservationist Madison Grant, calling his race-based book, "The Passing of the Great Race," his "Bible." That's true, but Madison Grant was a fucking monster! | ||
| He was a huge anti-Semite and a disaster. | ||
| Was he a bad guy? | ||
| He wrote, Mistaken regard for what are believed to be divine laws... | ||
| Anybody who writes a book with the title of The Passing of the Great Race... | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Gotta be a great guy. | ||
| Mistaken regard for what are believed to be divine laws and a sentimental belief in the sanctity of human life tend to prevent both the elimination of defective infants and the sterilization of such adults as are themselves no value to the community. | ||
| The laws of nature require the obliteration of the unfit and human life is valuable only when it is of use to the community or race. | ||
| I feel like he's... | ||
| Gone a long ways off track. | ||
| He went on to say that the Nordic race... | ||
| No, don't say Nordic. | ||
| He extolled the Nordic race... | ||
| Don't say Nordic. | ||
| ...and bemoaned its corruption by Jews, Negroes, Slavs, and others who did not possess blonde hair and blue eyes. | ||
| That is not great. | ||
| He was already on board with Hitler's type of shit. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's not great. | ||
| Don't use him as an example of all these scientists. | ||
| Also, no, I think... | ||
| I think it should go the other way around. | ||
| Like, look at how crazy this guy is. | ||
| Even Hitler got on board with his shit. | ||
| I think he probably was pre-loaded to do so already. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's tough to say. | ||
| Wait, didn't he write it? | ||
| No, but he wrote it before Hitler's rise to power. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The passing of the great race. | ||
| Yeah, but it's not like it's an isolated thing. | ||
| No, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| People hating minorities, especially Jews, isn't a new thing in 1930. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I mean, as a way of denigration, your description should be... | ||
| Look at how crazy Madison Grant is. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Hitler thought he was a genius. | ||
| Totally. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Totally. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is right, but also, meh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hitler developed a plan for mass extermination of the Jews and what he called other sub-races, as well as the handicapped from Grant. | ||
| By 1927, eugenics hit the mainstream. | ||
| The so-called science was aggressively pushed through contested schools. | ||
| Churches and at state fairs. | ||
| And that's why we can't have roads in Texas. | ||
| Churches compete in contest with big cash prizes to see who could best implement eugenics into their sermons. | ||
| Major denominations then tell Americans that Jesus is for eugenics. | ||
| So, Alex's citation for this is one speech from 1926. | ||
| Which covers major denominations, plural. | ||
| It's a typewritten sermon that is unclear who it came from. | ||
| There's no reference or anything. | ||
| Which means it came from all determinations. | ||
| I agree with him. | ||
| It's an unclear... | ||
| It's incomplete. | ||
| The pages aren't complete for the sermon, so you don't know all of what it's saying. | ||
| It's like five pages out of... | ||
| Who knows how many? | ||
| But what it does reference is Mark 14, 21, which says, The Son of Man indeed goeth, as it is written of him. | ||
| But woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed. | ||
| Good were it for that man if he had never been born. | ||
| The Bible is so boring! | ||
| Right, but it's using that good for him if he had never been born to imply that there's a moral characteristic to his genes or whatever that he was doomed. | ||
| Talking about Judas being doomed from birth because of bad genes and so it extrapolates from there and you know what? | ||
| That's not the craziest thing I've ever heard a preacher say. | ||
| That's not the craziest thing I've heard a preacher say on Alex Jones' show. | ||
| That's not the craziest thing I've heard you say. | ||
| Alex Jones has frequently had Reverend James David Manning on his show, who says that the gays put semen in Starbucks lattes because they like to have a good time. | ||
| It's not crazy if it's the truth, Dan. | ||
|
unidentified
|
It's nonsense. | |
| It's not crazy if it's the truth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But also, the other problem with that is that, like, strictly speaking, that preacher's kind of making, like, an okay point from the text. | ||
| Like, it's not... | ||
| If you allow for the idea that they're already saying, it's not like that guy is crazy. | ||
| He's not clearly under the influence of some eugenics board. | ||
| He's just applying a line of thought to pre-existing interpretation of scripture. | ||
| Right, but that's probably the major failing with scripture, is that that guy wrote it thinking one thing, and then it turned into... | ||
| A million whatever the thing that I want it to mean is. | ||
| It's crazy to us, but it's not that crazy. | ||
| Scripture is all fucking stupid. | ||
| The idea of Scripture is stupid. | ||
| The Constitution is stupid. | ||
| Everything is stupid. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Fucking build on it, change, grow. | ||
| Don't be like, well, Jesus said in Mark 1 through... | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Yeah, the past can suck my dick. | ||
| Yes, agreed. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Except for where it already did a great job sucking my dick in which we should build on that. | |
| That same year in the United States, more than 25 states passed forced sterilization laws, and the Supreme Court ruled in favor of brutal sterilization policies. | ||
| When Hitler came to power in 1933, one of his first acts was to pass national eugenics laws modeled after laws in the United States. | ||
| It's unfortunate. | ||
| USA! | ||
| Wait, is now not the time? | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| The 1934 film Tomorrow's Children brought the eugenics agenda to the silver screen in the United States. | ||
|
unidentified
|
In the case of Miss Mason, I can see no reason for the operation that's been recommended. | |
| That's a good doctor right there. | ||
| She's hardworking and has a good reputation. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Do you know anything about her family background? | |
| Yes, Your Honor, I do. | ||
|
unidentified
|
There are several other children, aren't there? | |
| Yes. | ||
| What is their condition? | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa! | |
| You caught me, sir! | ||
|
unidentified
|
Whoa! | |
| She's a little kid. | ||
|
unidentified
|
She's sound, your honor. | |
| She's not anything like the rest. | ||
|
unidentified
|
That's muddling your argument a little bit. | |
| Suppose she is normal? | ||
| Oh, she's an old lady. | ||
| It's the 30s. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Old ladies were everywhere. | |
| Three generations of unfit are enough. | ||
| Petition not allowed. | ||
| Also, that judge is the villain. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| I don't know, have you ever made a movie where you wanted your good guy to look like the unrepentant monster that says that kid can be sterilized? | ||
| These are the rules. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| Good guy. | ||
| So many great movies. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| American Eugenics, Davenport, Laughlin, and Goathe. | ||
| were dispatched by the Rockefellers to Germany, where they advised the Nazis on the fine-tuning of their extermination system. | ||
| So here Alex says that Davenport, Laughlin, and Goethe were dispatched by the Rockefellers to help the Nazis with eugenics. | ||
| Davenport, Laughlin, and Goethe. | ||
| His citations on this are incredibly lacking. | ||
| I don't know whether to go with a... | ||
| I think it's Gertha. | ||
| I don't know whether to go with like a... | ||
| A lawyer's partner's joke? | ||
| Or like a Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego joke? | ||
| Like, which way do I go with this? | ||
| Here's where I'm gonna go with this. | ||
| Girtha. | ||
| I'm going to ignore it. | ||
| That's how I'm going to pronounce his name also. | ||
| Okay, Gertha. | ||
| Gertha, the letter that Alex Jones posts as a citation, is reporting to someone named Mr. Eddie about what he observed of the Germans collecting eugenic data. | ||
| It has nothing to do with helping them or overt aspects of the Holocaust. | ||
| It was written in 1937 before Kristallnacht, before the invasion of Poland, etc. | ||
| That being said... | ||
| This Gertha was a real bad dude. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| He was a bad dude. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| But Alex Jones' citations don't prove it, and he was absolutely a fucking racist. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Yeah. | |
| So now Davenport. | ||
| Alex has a citation that is another letter from this guy. | ||
| This is from November 11th, 1922, a year before the Beer Hall push. | ||
| And at that point, Hitler and the Nazis were a small but noisy group, decidedly not in power. | ||
| The letter affirms that there are Germans interested in the principles of eugenics and sterilization but does not show that he was at all sent there to help the Nazis. | ||
| That said, Davenport was a bad dude. | ||
| He did write for some German scholarly journals much later than he should have, going up to 1939. | ||
| Weirdly, in 1938, he wrote a letter to the editor of the Time magazine and said about FDR and Joseph Goebbels, both, quote, led revolutions and aspired to dictatorships while burdening their country with heavy taxes and reducing its finances to chaos. | ||
| All right, well... | ||
| So he's saying that... | ||
| That's not smart. | ||
| No, but he was writing for a German scholarly journal and talking shit on Goebbels a year before. | ||
| It's very confusing, but he's a fucking bad dude, too. | ||
| He was a mess. | ||
| So there's a press clipping that Alex... | ||
| He's a Nazi. | ||
| There's a press clipping that Alex Jones uses as a citation for Laughlin being honored at the 550th anniversary of the University of Heidelberg. | ||
| But this is from 1936, even before Goethe's letter. | ||
| The Olympics were in Germany that year, so... | ||
| So it was going great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That said... | ||
| Laughlin is also a bad dude. | ||
| Look, I'm not trying to paint with a broad brush, but if your name is mentioned in 1930s Germany, I'm going to lead with you're probably not a good dude. | ||
| Like, period. | ||
| The list of guys mentioned... | ||
| Okay, so you know a guy's name from 1930s Germany. | ||
| What are the percentage-wise... | ||
| Is it a hero? | ||
| No. | ||
| Or is it a bad dude? | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's not a good percentage. | ||
| So just by you saying a name from 1930s Germany, I'm going to be like, yeah, he's probably an evil dude. | ||
| These were Americans. | ||
| These were Americans? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is claiming that they were dispatched to Germany to help with eugenics, but they weren't. | ||
| In 1930s, percentage-wise, like, if you're an American... | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Laughlin was described as, quote, among the most racist and anti-Semitic of early 20th century eugenicists by a biographer. | ||
| There's little doubt... | ||
| That's a fucking claim. | ||
| There's little doubt that he would be on board with the Nazis, but no evidence... | ||
| That's a fucking claim! | ||
| But there's no evidence provided he collaborated with them. | ||
| Also, a year before he went to Germany, a review panel convened by the Carnegie Institute concluded that the Eugenics Record Office, which he was in charge of, at... | ||
| Cold Springs Harbor. | ||
| They had confirmed that he had fit the most marbles in his mouth. | ||
| He had the eugenics record for that. | ||
| They concluded that the research they were doing had no scientific merit and withdrew funding for it and shut it the fuck down. | ||
| Interestingly, before that point, they'd never audited the research they were doing. | ||
| At that point, they were like, oh, fuck. | ||
| We've been funding them for 10 years. | ||
| We fucked up. | ||
| So you presented us with a pitch of you're going to find out stuff about eugenics. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then we looked into it, and it turns out you're just a racist. | ||
| So that's not really science, so we're going to have to shut you down. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I don't want to be the guy to do it. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Right. | |
| Coming from the brass. | ||
| Bro, I love you. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I'm a racist too. | ||
| Hey, hey, who amongst us isn't really a racist? | ||
| But we can't just be doing this. | ||
| You gotta have some sort of science. | ||
| Give me some science, Dan. | ||
| One of the big reasons that they didn't find out for so long is that because these research centers, these eugenics records offices, their primary function was to collect data. | ||
| And that takes a long time. | ||
| So there's a big window before someone's going to recognize that something is up and that what you're doing is meaningless. | ||
| So there's an argument to be made that what they were doing was actually defrauding these foundations. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, this sounds like a big-ass scam. | ||
| They probably didn't mean to, but in the end, the product is that's what they did. | ||
| And that, folks, is where we will have to cut off for today. | ||
| I feel really bad about this. | ||
| Not bad, but... | ||
| The way this documentary is going and the way our coverage of it is going, it's an impossible task for me to figure out an end point for this section of the coverage. | ||
| And I apologize for cutting things off right in the middle of some hot Nazi talk. | ||
| There's some Nazi stuff at the end of today's episode, and we'll jump right back into it tomorrow, at the beginning of tomorrow's episode. | ||
| But anyway, guys, if you'd like to find out more about our show, you can go to knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We are on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| You can also find us on Facebook. | ||
| We are there. | ||
| You can leave a review of the show, follow us, tell your friends, all that good stuff. | ||
| We're also on iTunes, and we would appreciate it if you subscribed or if you wanted to leave a review. | ||
| Any of those things are really helpful, and it would mean a lot. | ||
| But for now, I've got to get out of here, because... | ||
| This documentary sucks, and it sucks to relive it as I edit our coverage of it. | ||
| And I'm sorry that we're putting you through it. | ||
| You know what, though? | ||
| Listeners ask for it. | ||
| I'm only apologizing halfway. | ||
| But hey, guys, all the best to you and yours, and we will catch you tomorrow. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
unidentified
|
Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |