Knowledge Fight - #49: July 6-13. 2015
Aired: 2017-06-05
Duration: 02:38:07


=== Sounds Reversed (02:22) ===

[00:00:00]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[00:00:01]  Thanks for holding.
[00:00:04]  Hello, Alex.
[00:00:04]  I'm a fish Tim Color.
[00:00:05]  I'm a huge fan.
[00:00:06]  I love your work.
[00:00:07]  I love you.
[00:00:07]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:08]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:00:09]  I'm Dan.
[00:00:10]  I'm Jordan.
[00:00:10]  This is a podcast where we are two dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk about Alex Jones.
[00:00:17]  Yeah, to my great chagrin today, you have purchased and set in front of me.
[00:00:21]  Let me start by saying whoop whoop.
[00:00:25]  We will be drinking delicious cotton candy fayo.
[00:00:30]  Yeah.
[00:00:31]  A soda so brazen that it bothers to say, nah, we got nothing but carbonated water and high fructose corn syrup.
[00:00:39]  We family up in here, man.
[00:00:40]  No fruit juice, no nothing.
[00:00:42]  I love it.
[00:00:43]  It's water with sugar in it.
[00:00:45]  Eat it, you ants.
[00:00:46]  And it's flavored like cotton candy, which is just sugar.
[00:00:50]  Wow, that is candy.
[00:00:53]  That's great.
[00:00:55]  That's fucking unbelievable.
[00:00:56]  So this is a podcast where I know a ton about Alex Jones, and you, sir, you do not.
[00:01:03]  All I know is cotton candy in my mouth right now.
[00:01:06]  It tastes eerily like cotton candy, which is the most disgusting part of it.
[00:01:09]  That's something I've found with Faygo beverages in the past, is that they have weird flavors, but they nail it.
[00:01:15]  Yeah, no, this is perfect.
[00:01:19]  It's eerie to drink cotton candy.
[00:01:22]  It is.
[00:01:22]  It is.
[00:01:23]  It's something you don't want.
[00:01:24]  You don't want liquid where you expect solid.
[00:01:27]  Oh.
[00:01:27]  As it were.
[00:01:28]  I think there's a passage out of Lovecraft where it's like it's truly horrifying to hear animal sounds where human sounds should come, or human sounds where animal sounds should come.
[00:01:38]  Anyway, this is not a Lovecraft podcast, although I mentioned him a bit.
[00:01:44]  But that's just because we're starting to live in an eldritch terror.
[00:01:49]  Yeah, it does seem like the elder ones will be arising from the depths any moment now.
[00:01:54]  Yeah, Donald Trump's face is going to come off.
[00:01:56]  He's going to have tentacles and he's going to teach us new ways to kill and delight and revolt.
[00:02:01]  That would make more sense than anything he's doing right now.
[00:02:03]  He does seem gelatinous.
[00:02:05]  Yeah.

=== Welcome to the Policy Wonks (03:57) ===

[00:02:07]  He's starting to look like, what's-his-face from Men in Black?
[00:02:11]  The guy wearing the- Vincent D'Onofrio?
[00:02:13]  Yeah, Vincent D'Onofrio from Men in Black.
[00:02:16]  Indeed.
[00:02:16]  He looks like he's wearing another person.
[00:02:18]  I think my reference was better.
[00:02:20]  I think mine is popular.
[00:02:22]  That's fair.
[00:02:23]  So we are a podcast about Alex Jones, and we're going to get to it.
[00:02:27]  But first, before we do, I'd like to give a shout out to our new donator.
[00:02:30]  What's up, Leslie?
[00:02:31]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:02:32]  Thank you for donating, and welcome to the team.
[00:02:34]  Welcome to the policy wonks, Leslie.
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[00:02:53]  One cup of coffee a month, and you guys all team up.
[00:02:55]  You can help me out a great deal because I'm losing my mind.
[00:02:58]  Yeah.
[00:02:59]  Yeah.
[00:02:59]  Anyway, Jordan, today we are going to be embarking on our third installment of the investigation that I've been doing deep into the past of 2015, trying to figure out exactly what the fuck happened to Alex Jones.
[00:03:11]  This has turned into one of the most exciting true crime podcasts out there.
[00:03:15]  It's not really a crime.
[00:03:17]  It's all a crime.
[00:03:18]  It's a crime against humanity.
[00:03:19]  It's a larger crime.
[00:03:20]  Yeah.
[00:03:21]  So on our last one.
[00:03:22]  No one dies, and yet at the same time, pretty much all of us are going to because of it.
[00:03:26]  There's no doubt about that.
[00:03:27]  This is the prologue to the disaster.
[00:03:30]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:03:31]  So we'll get to this installment, but because people have asked on Twitter and you just asked me right before the show, I want to get everyone up to speed with what's going on in current day because we're not going to cover it.
[00:03:42]  Last week was a shit show.
[00:03:45]  There was no show on Monday again because of Memorial Day.
[00:03:48]  Right.
[00:03:48]  And then Tuesday, Roger Stone talked a whole bunch with Rick Derringer about I Am a Real American.
[00:03:53]  To our everlasting delight.
[00:03:55]  Hulk Hogan's theme song, amazing.
[00:03:56]  Yep.
[00:03:57]  Wednesday, Mike Cernovich and Alex Jones announced their huge Kathy Griffin contest.
[00:04:04]  That's on Wednesday.
[00:04:05]  Thursday, they don't talk about that contest.
[00:04:10]  Because she'd already known.
[00:04:11]  I knew it.
[00:04:12]  I knew it.
[00:04:13]  Yeah.
[00:04:13]  Fantastic.
[00:04:14]  It's still going on ostensibly, but Alex is moved on, and now he's super into how cool it is that Trump left the Paris Agreement.
[00:04:24]  Great.
[00:04:25]  Because in Alex Jones' conception, in his framework, the planet is carbon starved.
[00:04:33]  There's not a carbon dioxide issue.
[00:04:36]  No.
[00:04:37]  We have carbon fuel.
[00:04:38]  I don't even want to hear the words you're saying right now.
[00:04:41]  I know.
[00:04:42]  That's the why we're not going over it.
[00:04:44]  You might as well be like, and rainbows are made of starlight and wishes.
[00:04:47]  That's what he's doing.
[00:04:48]  It's rainbow snatch.
[00:04:49]  Oh, okay, there we go.
[00:04:50]  made of starlight and rainbows uh it that's why we're not going to do an episode on it because the whole episode is mostly alex losing his mind and talking about he's still in his manic episode And so he's talking about how July 1st, 2017 will be the most important day in history.
[00:05:07]  And here's why, is because he believes that the way the globalists fund themselves is through this carbon tax that's been imposed.
[00:05:16]  Climate change isn't real.
[00:05:18]  It's all a charade to create a carbon tax that goes to Al Gore.
[00:05:23]  I don't know.
[00:05:24]  Perfect.
[00:05:24]  I don't get the A to B there, but be that as it may.
[00:05:27]  Love it.
[00:05:28]  So he's celebrating this.
[00:05:29]  He's losing his shit.
[00:05:31]  He's going on and on about weird biblical stuff.
[00:05:35]  It's so strange.
[00:05:36]  He's talking about God's Eye and what have you.
[00:05:39]  Oh, boy.
[00:05:39]  Which may or may not be a reference to Fast and Furious 6.
[00:05:42]  Or Lord of the Rings.
[00:05:44]  Could be that too.
[00:05:45]  Or, I think, one of the Assassin's Creed games.
[00:05:47]  Yeah, there was definitely that.
[00:05:48]  Oh, yeah.
[00:05:49]  So he's, I don't, we discussed it a little bit on the last episode that when he's in this sort of manic state, it's tough to talk about it without making fun of what is sort of overt mental illness.

=== Why Not Empathize? (15:15) ===

[00:06:03]  Right.
[00:06:04]  So I don't want to talk about that.
[00:06:05]  And on the same token, the climate change stuff is just so loony that I don't want to make you.
[00:06:10]  Because you would.
[00:06:12]  What's even the argument to make?
[00:06:13]  You would freak out.
[00:06:14]  Well, yeah.
[00:06:15]  Listening to it.
[00:06:16]  I'm already freaking out when you just said we're carbon starved.
[00:06:19]  I'm very angry.
[00:06:20]  I'm protecting my neighbors from your screams.
[00:06:24]  That's what I'm doing.
[00:06:25]  I am very rarely that loud.
[00:06:28]  Calm down.
[00:06:29]  So the other thing I want to talk about along the same lines as the we shouldn't mock Alex Jones in the middle of a manic episode.
[00:06:38]  It came out on the internet last week that Paul Joseph Watson eats books.
[00:06:42]  Yes.
[00:06:43]  And I want to make it very clear that I hate him.
[00:06:48]  His beliefs are stupid, but I resent everybody making fun of him for his alleged pica.
[00:06:55]  You know, that is a condition.
[00:06:57]  And I really don't like to see people when he is so fucking open to attack for so many other things, all of these people making fun of him because he came out and admitted that he eats paper.
[00:07:07]  I don't think that's okay.
[00:07:09]  He's a horrifying monster filled with transphobic, homophobic.
[00:07:14]  Absolutely.
[00:07:14]  Fucking hate.
[00:07:16]  Just a hate-filled monster.
[00:07:18]  And that's the target.
[00:07:19]  And he should be absolutely eviscerated every single day of his life.
[00:07:26]  Yeah.
[00:07:26]  Forever.
[00:07:27]  Like a Greek myth.
[00:07:30]  His innard should be pulled from him every morning.
[00:07:33]  He should heal and it should happen again the very next day.
[00:07:37]  Except he has not brought us the torch of light.
[00:07:40]  He has not brought us any of that stuff.
[00:07:42]  No, he's not a hero.
[00:07:43]  No.
[00:07:45]  And it's the same thing with when he.
[00:07:47]  But also, he should eat all the paper he wants.
[00:07:50]  I don't give a fuck about it.
[00:07:51]  I don't even eating paper.
[00:07:52]  No.
[00:07:52]  Fuck you.
[00:07:53]  The past, he's talked about how he is a bit of an agoraphobic and rarely leaves his apartment.
[00:07:58]  And again, that's a thing that I don't feel any interest in making fun of, and I empathize.
[00:08:02]  I feel really bad for him in those instances.
[00:08:06]  So when I see people making fun of him, it bums me out because he sucks, but not for these reasons.
[00:08:12]  And it's unfair, and it gives him an opportunity to re-attack back and be like, oh, isn't this the tolerant left making fun of my mental illness?
[00:08:21]  It's a trap, but it's I'm not saying that he's faking it as a trap, but it is a trap you can fall into.
[00:08:27]  Of course.
[00:08:28]  And it just really bums me out when people don't take the right attack plan on these assholes.
[00:08:33]  It's just stick to the reality.
[00:08:35]  Don't insult them for things that are human.
[00:08:38]  Right.
[00:08:39]  Don't make fun of him for being afraid to leave his house.
[00:08:43]  Make him afraid to leave it.
[00:08:45]  Make him more afraid.
[00:08:49]  Train vultures to attack him the moment he walks outside.
[00:08:53]  You can teach Ravens to teach their own families to hate this man.
[00:08:59]  We need an army of birds.
[00:09:01]  I think that's where my mind is at right now.
[00:09:04]  Because, you know, they're the only ones who are going to survive once the rest of the earth is flooded.
[00:09:08]  Not if the owls have anything to say about it.
[00:09:10]  Fucking peacocks, man.
[00:09:12]  So we're going to start our investigation.
[00:09:15]  Today's episode is going to be covering the time span of July 6th to July 13th.
[00:09:21]  So we're going to be going over that.
[00:09:23]  But to give you guys a little bit of a last time on the investigation, Alex Jones did not mention Donald Trump for a long time.
[00:09:31]  He spent a lot of time talking about a Chick-fil-A billboard and misrepresenting the Civil War.
[00:09:35]  Yes.
[00:09:36]  You're up to speed.
[00:09:39]  On July 5th.
[00:09:40]  Why do we do three-hour episodes?
[00:09:41]  I don't know.
[00:09:42]  This is a very good question.
[00:09:43]  You just brought everybody up to speed in a two-second recap.
[00:09:46]  But that's because you can go back and listen to that three-hour episode.
[00:09:48]  Yeah, that's a good point.
[00:09:50]  On July 5th, Alex Jones very strongly indicated that he is fully aware of Trump's mob connections.
[00:09:57]  And so we go from dismissal and not even talking about Trump to within a couple days, I think 16 days after Trump had announced his candidacy, Alex Jones is saying this guy is mobbed up.
[00:10:10]  Right.
[00:10:11]  He agrees with 95% of what Trump says, but he doesn't trust him.
[00:10:16]  He agrees with the distrust of immigrants.
[00:10:20]  He agrees with that rhetoric, but he knows that Trump isn't going to follow through on it.
[00:10:23]  Also, at the end of our last episode, we revealed that Paul Joseph Watson also thinks that Trump is a shill and he's just in it for publicity and thinks he's a narcissist.
[00:10:37]  So that brings you up to speed.
[00:10:38]  We are now on July 6th.
[00:10:41]  July 6th is a fucked up show.
[00:10:44]  It's mostly phone calls.
[00:10:46]  Alex is sort of in a weird headspace, and I don't think he really wants to do his show.
[00:10:52]  And so he takes a lot of phone calls, and they're all pretty boring.
[00:10:56]  Right.
[00:10:56]  But in the times that he's not taking phone calls, it's a lot of race shit.
[00:11:01]  He talks a lot about guilt.
[00:11:04]  Because we're still only a month out from the Charleston General.
[00:11:08]  Less than that.
[00:11:08]  It's been like three weeks or so.
[00:11:10]  But he, yeah, so here is the first clip where we start with Alex explaining that he just doesn't want this guilt.
[00:11:17]  I want to explain something.
[00:11:19]  I'm pro-human.
[00:11:22]  I really don't care at the end of the day what color you are or where you came from.
[00:11:28]  If you support private property and the right to self-defense and you support a level playing field and you're not a wannabe social engineer trying to guilt me into feeling like I'm a bad person, so I'll submit to whatever your agenda is, then I care about you and I want you to succeed.
[00:11:50]  There's two issues that this Donald Trump situation gives us a window into.
[00:11:58]  I don't trust Donald Trump as far as I could throw an elephant.
[00:12:02]  Everybody knows that.
[00:12:04]  That said, most of what he says makes a lot of sense, and I think he's a really smart guy.
[00:12:10]  The problem is he won't deliver on what he says he's going to do, in my experience.
[00:12:15]  He is an establishment shill.
[00:12:18]  That's just what my gut tells me, and what I've seen, and what a lot of insiders like Dr. Corsi and others say.
[00:12:23]  Jerome Corsi, now the Washington Bureau chief for InfoWars, who has known Donald Trump for 40 years and regularly goes to dinner with him, has told Alex in 2015 that Donald Trump is an establishment shill and he is just there for publicity.
[00:12:39]  Well, yeah.
[00:12:40]  But this is now he's saying one of his sources.
[00:12:44]  Well, I mean, we all know that.
[00:12:47]  We all knew that.
[00:12:49]  That's what he was.
[00:12:50]  Or is.
[00:12:51]  Etc.
[00:12:52]  But now, Jerome Coursey.
[00:12:53]  I keep waiting for Alex to say that he can throw like the next show.
[00:12:56]  He's like, oh, also I can throw an elephant as far as a human being can trust another human being.
[00:13:02]  I love Donald Trump.
[00:13:04]  Yeah.
[00:13:04]  Yeah.
[00:13:05]  That's his way out.
[00:13:06]  He's actually so strong he can throw an elephant a million miles.
[00:13:08]  He just sits there and he's like, all right, Rob, do you got to help me to throw this elephant?
[00:13:13]  I will not be made a liar.
[00:13:14]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:13:15]  Gonna fly now is playing in the background.
[00:13:17]  We get a nice little rocky montage.
[00:13:19]  So, I mean, I think that you're underplaying this revelation that Dr. Corsi is also on the same page.
[00:13:26]  Because Dr. Corsi is now a major player in Alex's propaganda.
[00:13:31]  He's a major player in pushing Trump.
[00:13:34]  Right.
[00:13:34]  But I see, the thing that mitigates that for me is that everyone was like, nope, we don't want Trump.
[00:13:45]  We don't want Trump.
[00:13:46]  We don't want Trump until it became apparent that they had to.
[00:13:50]  They had to like Trump.
[00:13:51]  So even his friends were saying that.
[00:13:53]  Absolutely.
[00:13:53]  Okay.
[00:13:54]  Does he have friends?
[00:13:55]  Come on.
[00:13:56]  Apparently, Dr. Come on.
[00:13:57]  For 40 years.
[00:13:58]  And Dr. Corsi likes a free meal every now and again.
[00:14:03]  Sure.
[00:14:04]  I don't think Trump picks up a check.
[00:14:06]  No, that's a good point.
[00:14:07]  Hey, unless they eat it exclusively at Trump's places.
[00:14:11]  That's possible.
[00:14:11]  There you go.
[00:14:12]  But be that as it may, we have this reiteration of I agree with this race shit that he's saying, this stuff.
[00:14:21]  Because the Trump situation that he's referring to is still just the comments about the Mexicans.
[00:14:27]  That's still what's going on.
[00:14:29]  That's the only context that he covers Trump in pretty much, I think, throughout the entirety of this episode we're going to be going over.
[00:14:36]  So anytime there's the Trump situation, it's all just this, which at this point in history on July 6th is old.
[00:14:44]  That happened again three, four weeks ago.
[00:14:47]  So he's not wrestling with up-to-date shit.
[00:14:53]  His preamble there of, at the end of the day, I'm pro-human.
[00:14:59]  And then here's his list of things that are pro-human are private property.
[00:15:04]  Sure.
[00:15:04]  Self-defense.
[00:15:05]  Yep.
[00:15:06]  And don't make me feel guilt.
[00:15:07]  Yep.
[00:15:08]  That's the wrong priority for any human being ever.
[00:15:12]  No, because that's the bedrock of all human dignity.
[00:15:15]  What about care about others?
[00:15:19]  Empathy.
[00:15:20]  Boo.
[00:15:22]  Respect?
[00:15:23]  No, empathy.
[00:15:24]  Respect for yourself and for others?
[00:15:26]  None of that.
[00:15:27]  Empathy is a globalist plot.
[00:15:28]  Let's understand.
[00:15:29]  In order to get white people to feel bad, so you balkanize them.
[00:15:32]  Oh, okay.
[00:15:32]  I've actually come to realize something that I think.
[00:15:35]  I love how far we've come that you can just throw empathy is a globalist plot.
[00:15:39]  And I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.
[00:15:41]  All right.
[00:15:42]  Move it on.
[00:15:42]  That one makes sense.
[00:15:43]  Yeah, let's go along with that.
[00:15:45]  I think that Alex believes.
[00:15:47]  And I'm not sure about this, but I'm starting to think that he believes that the idea of people complaining about legitimate racial issues, he interprets that as a plot to split white people as one cohesive group as a voting block into a split group.
[00:16:05]  And some of the people will go along with the broken coalition that the Clintons put together, and other ones will become white supremacists.
[00:16:15]  I know.
[00:16:15]  It's nuts.
[00:16:16]  How do you, how do you look?
[00:16:20]  I don't like it when they split white people as a voting bloc.
[00:16:25]  Right.
[00:16:25]  We should all be united.
[00:16:26]  Of course.
[00:16:27]  I'm not racist, though.
[00:16:28]  No.
[00:16:29]  At the end of the day, I don't care what color you are so long as all white people are on the same team.
[00:16:34]  I want to be clear.
[00:16:35]  He hasn't said as much, but I'm starting to glean some of that from his interviews that he's had with Larry Nichols and just some of the other things he said.
[00:16:44]  I think that that is part of his conception.
[00:16:46]  It's part of so many old white dudes' concepts.
[00:16:49]  It's not like it's a thing they actively think about.
[00:16:52]  It's just their tribalism in the back of their head is like, well, you look like me, so you must agree with me.
[00:16:58]  We must have the same priority.
[00:16:59]  Exactly.
[00:17:00]  Which are, of course, private property, self-defense, and I don't want to feel anything.
[00:17:04]  I don't want to feel guilt.
[00:17:05]  Yep, especially about...
[00:17:07]  I don't want to feel guilt for the fact that my private property comes from old white people's self-defense, i.e. manifest destiny!
[00:17:15]  Yeah, it is interesting that the reasons you should feel guilt are the prior to the private property that you have because of the system that has been in place and built very literally on racism.
[00:17:29]  Yep.
[00:17:29]  And the self-defense you need because of that.
[00:17:32]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:17:34]  All three of his most important things are white supremacists.
[00:17:38]  Somewhat.
[00:17:38]  Anyway, speaking of that, let's get to this next clip.
[00:17:41]  So there's this apologist idea where any crime coming out of anybody who isn't white is basically acceptable.
[00:17:51]  You've got to ask yourself, what is that agenda really all about?
[00:17:55]  So I don't believe that that's the agenda, but I included that.
[00:17:57]  No, no, no.
[00:17:58]  We live in Chicago, and you know that as a city, we all agree that any crime done by black people, we just ignore.
[00:18:08]  That's totally cool.
[00:18:08]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:09]  The CBD definitely does not have black sites where they torture people.
[00:18:13]  No, That's crazy.
[00:18:15]  We just ignore it.
[00:18:17]  But the reason that I kept that clip in, because it is a little bit short and almost seems a little bit like a non-sequitur, is the reason that he says at the end, what's the agenda there?
[00:18:26]  And I think it's fascinating because it's like, are you talking about yourself?
[00:18:32]  What's the agenda in you laying it out like this?
[00:18:35]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:18:36]  Right.
[00:18:36]  Yeah.
[00:18:38]  It's interesting.
[00:18:39]  But all of this could be explained.
[00:18:41]  His what's your plan is actually, what's my plan on that?
[00:18:45]  What am I thinking?
[00:18:46]  So actually, I think a lot of it can be explained by considering what sources Alex takes in.
[00:18:52]  And in this next clip, Alex explains what his news diet is like.
[00:18:56]  Oh, no.
[00:18:56]  Oh, I don't want to know.
[00:18:57]  It's a little bit revealing.
[00:18:59]  You know, I think I kind of got depressed this morning.
[00:19:02]  I was up and I woke up at like 6 a.m.
[00:19:04]  I was reading news articles and I was on InfoWars and I go look at the comments for tips or anything.
[00:19:10]  I just kind of scan some of the comments.
[00:19:11]  What?
[00:19:12]  I was on YouTube.
[00:19:12]  You're reading the comments on your own articles for tips.
[00:19:16]  Who had seven felonies and been deported five times and how they let him go.
[00:19:22]  San Francisco did saying they think it's racist to turn a felon out of jail for all sorts of crimes over to the feds who don't even deport him anyway, so it wouldn't matter.
[00:19:33]  Obama's basically stopped deportations.
[00:19:36]  Not true.
[00:19:36]  I mean, a citizen isn't treated like that.
[00:19:38]  No, he definitely didn't deport more people than his predecessors.
[00:19:41]  And the guy went out and shot a lady, and I saw Democratic operatives.
[00:19:45]  I went and clicked on their handles.
[00:19:46]  They were real websites.
[00:19:47]  In the comments.
[00:19:48]  The people with their dogs and their cats and everything.
[00:19:51]  They were real dogs and real cats.
[00:19:52]  And by their dogs and their cats.
[00:19:53]  I mean, they were real people saying, how dare me be racist and grammar?
[00:20:00]  Basically, not just want to have people joyriding around shooting people.
[00:20:04]  And then, how dare I defend Donald Trump because I just stick with the white people.
[00:20:09]  And it was mainly white people saying this.
[00:20:12]  I mean, their whole ideology is just mental illness.
[00:20:14]  It's like mentally ill.
[00:20:16]  One of the things that I think is interesting is one, I have developed two theories in my investigation thus far up to this point.
[00:20:24]  And one of them is reasonable, and the other one we'll get to later.
[00:20:28]  The reasonable theory is I think that Alex Jones, at some point around here, July 6th, 7th, and that sort of span, he starts to get really jealous because Donald Trump is getting a lot of press saying things that are very similar to things he says.
[00:20:46]  Okay.
[00:20:48]  I think Alex Jones starts to get pretty petty and jealous about like, why is everyone lumping me in with him?

=== Possible Trump Empathy (02:17) ===

[00:20:56]  Why am I not getting all the attention?
[00:20:58]  That sort of thing.
[00:20:59]  And then on top of that, I think he starts to empathize with him a little bit because of the way the media treats him.
[00:21:05]  I think that there is an identification factor that Alex starts to feel with Trump.
[00:21:10]  That's the most reasonable theory I have about what gets him to sort of shift over.
[00:21:16]  Yeah, I can see that.
[00:21:17]  I have an insane theory.
[00:21:18]  That's an emotionally based, like, that's a reasonable human being's, like, I can understand that reaction.
[00:21:25]  And it sort of falls.
[00:21:26]  It falls in line with.
[00:21:27]  Now, of course, that means it is not true at all because you and I can understand it.
[00:21:32]  Definitely not possible.
[00:21:34]  It is because Trump killed a globalist and left the head on Alex Jones' doorstep.
[00:21:41]  That could be.
[00:21:42]  That's what we know.
[00:21:42]  That's your insane theory.
[00:21:43]  That's my insane theory.
[00:21:45]  But my rational theory does take into account the psychology of both individuals.
[00:21:49]  Like, Trump acts the way he does because he's a narcissist and doesn't understand consequences.
[00:21:53]  Right.
[00:21:54]  And then Alex is also a narcissist, and he feels like, hey, I can get on this train.
[00:21:59]  I see what's happening with him.
[00:22:01]  If I identify myself with him, maybe I will get the attention that he's getting.
[00:22:05]  Well, yeah, he's saying exactly what I've been saying for forever.
[00:22:08]  Why is he more popular?
[00:22:10]  Here's what I'll do.
[00:22:11]  I'll drift off of it.
[00:22:13]  And there are a couple instances, too, of clips we'll play where Alex says things that eventually Trump himself will say.
[00:22:19]  So there is also a possibility.
[00:22:21]  Why are we doing this whole America thing anymore?
[00:22:23]  I don't know.
[00:22:24]  Are we sure?
[00:22:24]  But there is also a possibility that Alex just lives his life and spouts the hate that he spouts, and then at some point started to see Trump jock his style and be like, all right, this guy gets it.
[00:22:36]  He likes me.
[00:22:37]  This appeals to my narcissism.
[00:22:39]  He's clearly quoting me.
[00:22:40]  Right.
[00:22:41]  I'm in.
[00:22:42]  I don't know.
[00:22:42]  That makes sense.
[00:22:43]  So, like I said, on this July 6th episode.
[00:22:47]  At the end of the day, Alex wants a rub down from a famous guy.
[00:22:49]  More or less, yeah.
[00:22:50]  He's a star fucker.

=== Rage in the Office (09:16) ===

[00:22:52]  But he chooses weird stars.
[00:22:54]  Anyway, this next clip, I told you July 6th is a weird day.
[00:22:58]  He's in a weird headspace, and it finally sort of blows off at this point, like about hour and 10 into the episode.
[00:23:06]  It's almost like claustrophobia.
[00:23:07]  I never used to have this feeling about politics, but now I just want to hide from everybody and just let everybody kill each other and just be idiots because I'm pretty much there.
[00:23:19]  I mean, I'm not putting on an actor.
[00:23:20]  I almost left earlier.
[00:23:22]  Okay.
[00:23:24]  I couldn't even go on air earlier and they had to basically air a tape.
[00:23:28]  Like, I may just leave.
[00:23:29]  I just watching the videos, and I go out in the street.
[00:23:32]  It's not Mark Dice doing this.
[00:23:34]  The average Austinite folks cannot find their fat ass with both hands, and I want to slap them upside their head.
[00:23:40]  But let me tell you, they are the most politically correct, full-of-in-arrogate scum.
[00:23:46]  And I'm sick of them.
[00:23:48]  And let me tell you who they mainly are.
[00:23:50]  They're a bunch of pasty, stupid white people.
[00:23:54]  As dumb as the so-called minorities are, on average, they're more awake when I talk to them than these dumbass white people everywhere.
[00:24:01]  I mean, this country's a sick joke.
[00:24:07]  The juxtaposition there is amazing.
[00:24:09]  The music plus him just screaming about pasty, dumb white people.
[00:24:16]  If it was from Beverly Hills cop and Eddie Murphy said that, I'm way on board.
[00:24:21]  I believe every word.
[00:24:24]  What the f.
[00:24:25]  Yeah.
[00:24:25]  So he's saying that it's not Mark Dice shooting these exploitative, erroneous videos where he goes out and talks to dumb people on the street.
[00:24:37]  It's everybody.
[00:24:37]  It's real.
[00:24:38]  This is really how people are.
[00:24:40]  They don't know what the 4th of July is.
[00:24:42]  All this stuff.
[00:24:43]  So that's what's making him mad.
[00:24:45]  And he's just freaking out.
[00:24:46]  So it goes to break with that music.
[00:24:48]  And then here is how he comes back from break.
[00:24:51]  You know, I feel a lot better now because I've been holding my anger in the last few weeks.
[00:24:58]  And during the break, I had a controlled rage just walking around back in the storage area of the facility.
[00:25:09]  Where I petted my big ass bun for a half hour.
[00:25:12]  I was not going to be able to continue doing the radio show because my revulsion of the globalists and their how sickening they are.
[00:25:22]  And how evil they are and how bad they are.
[00:25:25]  Sounds like to me.
[00:25:27]  And then I just wonder what is wrong with other people.
[00:25:31]  Why do we put up with this inversion of reality and common sense being trampled?
[00:25:36]  I don't know.
[00:25:38]  Yeah, that's a really good question.
[00:25:40]  Don't know why we put up with this.
[00:25:41]  But also, this is the second time in a pretty short span that Alex has, in episodes we've covered, he's had to leave the studio and have a controlled rage.
[00:25:52]  Yeah, I want to see what his controlled rage looks like.
[00:25:55]  Obviously, he breaks shit.
[00:25:56]  I mean, on the last.
[00:25:57]  It has to.
[00:25:57]  On that Keith Olberman episode, he was saying that he went and broke shit.
[00:26:01]  Like, he's a freaking, he's a, he is a, he's a rage monster.
[00:26:04]  He's a Reid rage kind of guy.
[00:26:06]  That's what's going on.
[00:26:07]  He's not mentally well.
[00:26:09]  No matter what.
[00:26:10]  Manic episode shit aside, he is not in an emotional, spiritual, self-control kind of situation where he should be doing this.
[00:26:22]  Right.
[00:26:22]  Like, I've talked about how this is starting to fuck with my mind a little bit.
[00:26:25]  Yeah.
[00:26:25]  And I'm losing it a tiny bit covering him.
[00:26:28]  Yeah.
[00:26:28]  I have developed slight agoraphobia.
[00:26:30]  I don't leave the house as much as I used to and that stuff.
[00:26:33]  Right.
[00:26:33]  But I've never gotten so mad listening to him that I've gone into a controlled rage.
[00:26:39]  What is a controlled rage?
[00:26:41]  I think it's code for a rage.
[00:26:44]  I think it's him trying to put a PR spin on that.
[00:26:48]  I threw shit in my office for a good half hour, and I know I have a cleaning lady to fix it.
[00:26:54]  Yeah.
[00:26:55]  So or man.
[00:26:56]  Alex, you should not be doing this.
[00:26:58]  You should not.
[00:27:01]  It shouldn't be in the news.
[00:27:03]  It's like, how do you look at somebody who is so clearly unhealthy in every aspect of his life?
[00:27:13]  Seems like it.
[00:27:13]  Right?
[00:27:15]  There's no good thing that we've seen other than once a year he smokes weed to test its strength.
[00:27:23]  That's the only bright spot.
[00:27:24]  That's the only healthy, the only healthy thing I can see Alex doing.
[00:27:28]  But you got to make sure that George Soros hasn't gone too far with that herb.
[00:27:31]  Right.
[00:27:31]  No, you can't let him do that.
[00:27:33]  Yeah.
[00:27:34]  No, I know.
[00:27:35]  He is a mess.
[00:27:36]  But I think what people respond to in him is specifically the white identity shit that he always talks about.
[00:27:44]  And that's why his audience is 87% white.
[00:27:48]  Well, and you can also, if you're a disenfranchised, dumb white dude, you can absolutely sublimate some of your anger through his.
[00:27:57]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:27:58]  You know, that's one of the things, yeah, one of the ways you can get it out is you allow this man to speak for you, and then you feel, you know, you get that dopamine reaction of, well, at least somebody's telling it like it is.
[00:28:10]  Well, you've got this terrible anger based on feeling like white victimhood inside you, and you listen to his show and he screams about it.
[00:28:17]  And somehow, you're right, it is.
[00:28:19]  It's somehow you can vicariously feel those feelings, and maybe they come out.
[00:28:24]  Maybe it is a release.
[00:28:25]  Yeah.
[00:28:26]  I hope.
[00:28:27]  Because I think there are a lot of people who it's not.
[00:28:29]  I think it's reinforcing.
[00:28:30]  Right.
[00:28:31]  But I mean, you have to imagine some of these people work in an office.
[00:28:34]  They go to the office and rather than take out all of this weird, angry, conservative, white-hot hatred on their co-workers, they just sit there listening to a gorilla scream for four hours.
[00:28:49]  I'm really scared that my co-workers have seen that I'm watching InfoWars at work.
[00:28:55]  I'm really worried that they think I like it.
[00:28:58]  I don't know.
[00:28:59]  No one's brought it up, but I'm so scared people will think I'm an InfoWarrior.
[00:29:03]  So I do have a huge beard.
[00:29:04]  Right.
[00:29:05]  I could be one of those crazies.
[00:29:06]  Right, right.
[00:29:07]  Anyway, this is the last clip from July 6th.
[00:29:10]  In this one, he has Gerald Salenti on.
[00:29:13]  He has an interview with this dude.
[00:29:14]  No idea who that is.
[00:29:15]  Guy who works in trends.
[00:29:19]  That's not a job.
[00:29:21]  He does predictions and what have you about what is to come on the way out.
[00:29:25]  Is he a good predictor?
[00:29:26]  Nope.
[00:29:27]  He has a lot of similar tendencies to Alex to predict the collapses coming evidently.
[00:29:33]  They talk a bunch about how you need to buy gold in the middle of the day.
[00:29:36]  Of course.
[00:29:36]  Of course.
[00:29:37]  But what I think is more important about this interview is this clip that I'm going to take from it.
[00:29:43]  And it's Gerald Salenti really reinforcing the savior narrative that Larry Nichols has laid out for Alex in past episodes.
[00:29:51]  And you said you were depressed because of the masses that are so out of touch.
[00:29:57]  So I have this little quote here that really teaches all of his guests.
[00:30:02]  By Samuel Adams.
[00:30:03]  This is our majority, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
[00:30:17]  It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
[00:30:28]  And that's what you're doing.
[00:30:30]  That's what I'm doing.
[00:30:31]  That's what Dr. Paul Craig Roberts does.
[00:30:33]  That's what Ron Paul does.
[00:30:35]  There are a number of us that are doing it.
[00:30:37]  It's bringing it all together to make it happen.
[00:30:40]  He sounds like a shitty Lenny Bruce.
[00:30:42]  Yeah, and he does do some like warmed over hacky comedy stuff.
[00:30:46]  He does throw out lines like I don't even remember anyone, but like the brushfire of heaven that you're gonna brush fire.
[00:30:54]  But you hear it there.
[00:30:55]  He's like, he's talking about Sam Adams quotes.
[00:30:58]  Right.
[00:30:58]  He's throwing it out there.
[00:30:59]  It doesn't take a majority.
[00:31:00]  It just takes an irate minority.
[00:31:02]  It's the same thing as what Larry Nichols keeps saying.
[00:31:05]  All we need is you.
[00:31:06]  Alex, you are our savior.
[00:31:09]  He even goes so far, like Larry Nichols, I don't think I pulled the clip, but he does say, you are the last hope for the bastion of truth.
[00:31:16]  Jesus Christ.
[00:31:17]  Yeah, I mean, he has these people in his life who are just completely reinforcing this.
[00:31:23]  It's up to you.
[00:31:24]  Now I want to rewrite A New Hope and have Obi-Wan just be this strange, ill-proportioned, angry dude.
[00:31:35]  Yeah.
[00:31:35]  Just yeah, fucking lightsabers.
[00:31:43]  See, the thing that I think is like, I do sort of believe I'm fighting a quixotic battle against the windmill that is Alex Jones.
[00:31:51]  Correct.
[00:31:52]  I do believe, and I think it's important.

=== Deliberately Creating ISIS (09:19) ===

[00:31:54]  I don't think that this is just fun entertainment.
[00:31:58]  I think that there is something important we're doing.
[00:32:00]  But I don't have exactly like the man of La Mancha, the musical, which was far more important than the original.
[00:32:07]  Yeah.
[00:32:07]  The book is like 10,000 pages.
[00:32:09]  It's great, though.
[00:32:10]  Nobody sings.
[00:32:11]  Love some Cervantes.
[00:32:11]  Nobody sings.
[00:32:12]  I don't have a Gerald Salenti.
[00:32:15]  I don't have a Larry Nichols.
[00:32:16]  I have you.
[00:32:18]  I am not going to tell you who are singing.
[00:32:21]  You tell me, cool.
[00:32:25]  Imagine if I was on InfoWorth.
[00:32:28]  Alex, stop getting so self-important.
[00:32:30]  Chill out.
[00:32:31]  Your vocal patterns are too appealing.
[00:32:34]  You need to find a way to speak weirdly.
[00:32:36]  So that's it for July 6th.
[00:32:39]  Oh, boy.
[00:32:40]  Dan.
[00:32:40]  Oh, boy.
[00:32:41]  Dan.
[00:32:42]  I think we need to create a new mem.
[00:32:44]  I don't want to do that.
[00:32:45]  I think it's time.
[00:32:46]  I don't want to do that.
[00:32:51]  So we go to July 7th, and this episode is weird.
[00:32:56]  Yes.
[00:32:56]  What happens?
[00:32:57]  I know I say that a lot, that episodes are weird.
[00:32:59]  That's because they fucking are.
[00:33:01]  Yeah.
[00:33:02]  The ones that you don't think are weird are terrifyingly weird.
[00:33:06]  The ones that you do think are weird, I can't process my emotions while listening to this.
[00:33:11]  The baseline is weird.
[00:33:13]  Yeah.
[00:33:13]  That's sort of where we are.
[00:33:15]  So in this episode, he has an interview with this guy named Lord Monckton, who refuse.
[00:33:22]  Refuse.
[00:33:23]  He does not believe in climate change.
[00:33:25]  Skip over these clips entirely.
[00:33:27]  I don't have any of him.
[00:33:28]  He claims he actually was on the show just the other day, recently, in 2017, to talk about how he has found proof that climate change is based on bad math, and he's going to release a paper about it.
[00:33:44]  How'd that go?
[00:33:45]  Doesn't give any details.
[00:33:46]  No details?
[00:33:46]  No details.
[00:33:47]  It's based on bad math.
[00:33:48]  Yeah, he's found four huge errors that were made.
[00:33:51]  Does not explain any of them.
[00:33:53]  Does he talk about maybe it was in the measuring system?
[00:33:57]  No.
[00:33:58]  No specifics.
[00:33:59]  Maybe like a calculation.
[00:34:01]  There are so many different factors that could go into the exacerbation of climate change.
[00:34:06]  How quick are the ice caps melting?
[00:34:08]  Maybe they just got the rate of decay wrong.
[00:34:11]  Maybe it's any number of possible things.
[00:34:14]  Dan, tell me that Lord Monckton or whatever the fuck his name is says that it's a mathematical issue that we can solve through peer-reviewed research.
[00:34:25]  Dan.
[00:34:26]  He didn't give any details.
[00:34:27]  Oh, okay.
[00:34:28]  Well, then never fucking mind.
[00:34:29]  But Alex is thrilled.
[00:34:31]  Climate change is still real, Alex.
[00:34:32]  So he's coming on back in 2015 to have a discussion about how the EU is a fascist organization, and I didn't keep it.
[00:34:40]  Didn't keep any of that stuff in.
[00:34:42]  But in this clip, towards the beginning of the episode, Alex says some stuff that I believe Trump picked up on later.
[00:34:50]  Stuff about how Obama is the founder of ISIS.
[00:34:53]  Right.
[00:34:54]  These sort of beliefs are things that Trump mirrored from Alex Jones.
[00:34:58]  Do you know what?
[00:35:00]  Like, maybe our big problem is that we just don't define words the same way.
[00:35:04]  Like, what do you think their definition of fascism is?
[00:35:09]  Like, the actual word.
[00:35:10]  Well, isn't that like a Socrates quote?
[00:35:13]  Like, the beginning of knowledge comes from the definition of terms?
[00:35:16]  The beginning of conversation.
[00:35:17]  It's a virtual language.
[00:35:18]  Yeah.
[00:35:19]  How can you communicate with somebody who disagrees with you without first agreeing on what reality is?
[00:35:25]  Yeah.
[00:35:25]  Otherwise, you're just talking past each other.
[00:35:28]  That's an interesting point.
[00:35:30]  I don't know.
[00:35:31]  I don't think Alex would be up for having that conversation, though, even about just defining terms.
[00:35:35]  Well, yeah, right?
[00:35:37]  Because then that terms mean that point, that paints you in a corner.
[00:35:41]  Then you actually have to engage with things.
[00:35:43]  Like, if you've ever.
[00:35:45]  So much of what Alex does is unverifiable.
[00:35:48]  Right.
[00:35:48]  Like, you can't disprove a lot of the things he says, but if he were to give definitions to terms, it would be like, oh, no, that's absolutely not true.
[00:35:56]  You'd have to admit it.
[00:35:57]  Right.
[00:35:58]  Well, exactly.
[00:35:59]  And I've had conversations with conservative people before in the past where it's been like, okay, we're going to stop.
[00:36:08]  This is what we are talking about.
[00:36:10]  Here's the one subject we're talking about.
[00:36:12]  So long as you agree that you can change your mind based on.
[00:36:16]  So you say, you know, you have no evidence for what you're saying.
[00:36:19]  Okay, fine.
[00:36:20]  I will present evidence.
[00:36:22]  If it disagrees with you, then you have to change your mind.
[00:36:26]  And if you do the same for me, then I will change my mind.
[00:36:29]  So long as the moment I do that, you don't say, well, yeah, but what about no, no, We're talking about this.
[00:36:37]  Goalposts moving it.
[00:36:38]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:36:39]  Anyway, Alex believes that Obama created ISIS.
[00:36:42]  He did create ISIS.
[00:36:43]  But through accidental foreign policy.
[00:36:46]  Well, no, George W. created ISIS.
[00:36:48]  The roots of it might go back even further than that if you really think about mid-Ronald Reagan created ISIS.
[00:36:55]  Sure, let's throw that out.
[00:36:56]  I mean, let's just go back.
[00:36:58]  Just to find the term creative.
[00:36:59]  Muhammad created ISIS.
[00:37:01]  There we go.
[00:37:02]  So in this clip, Alex has a clip himself of Obama talking about how we will not be able to destroy terrorists through bombs and weapons.
[00:37:13]  We need a better ideology.
[00:37:15]  We need to get at the root of what causes people to join these groups.
[00:37:19]  That's called strategy.
[00:37:20]  That's very reasonable.
[00:37:22]  Alex interprets that to mean, hey, don't attack these guys.
[00:37:26]  So that's the sort of bedrock of this clip.
[00:37:28]  Right.
[00:37:28]  Okay, now let's go ahead.
[00:37:31]  Let's do it.
[00:37:32]  And let's go to this clip of Obama that we just need to have better ideas.
[00:37:35]  What?
[00:37:36]  Caitlin Jenner?
[00:37:37]  Yes.
[00:37:38]  Maybe tell Al-Qaeda how to wear a drink.
[00:37:39]  Surrender over.
[00:37:40]  Will that idea trump them?
[00:37:43]  Or how about some Obama?
[00:37:44]  Yes to the 2 plus 2 equals 5.
[00:37:46]  Maybe that idea will defeat him against Western weapons.
[00:37:50]  Most of them, cult M16s, U.S. 308 rifles, 556.
[00:37:57]  Most of it's U.S.-made delivery.
[00:37:59]  Oh, they accidentally got special forces trucks and armored trucks.
[00:38:04]  No, they didn't.
[00:38:05]  They were given them.
[00:38:06]  They were armed in Iraq.
[00:38:08]  They were armed in other areas like Turkey.
[00:38:12]  Let's go ahead and go to the clip.
[00:38:14]  And that means that we're going to have to pick up our game to prevent these attacks.
[00:38:21]  It's also true why ultimately, in order for us to defeat terrorist groups like ISIL and Al-Qaeda, is going to also require us to discredit their ideology.
[00:38:32]  Oh, yeah, sure.
[00:38:33]  Twisted thinking that draws vulnerable people into their ranks.
[00:38:36]  You agree with this.
[00:38:37]  I've said before, and I know our military leaders agree, this broader challenge of countering violent extremism is not simply a military effort.
[00:38:44]  Oh, yeah.
[00:38:46]  Ideologies are not defeated.
[00:38:48]  He's saying something.
[00:38:49]  They're defeated by better ideas.
[00:38:51]  More attractive and more compelling words.
[00:38:53]  We're going to break.
[00:38:53]  We'll come back and play the full club.
[00:38:55]  No, here it is translating.
[00:38:57]  This is our proxy army to take over the Middle East and kill all the Christians.
[00:39:03]  And we're going to keep giving them weapons to do it.
[00:39:04]  And then we're going to use them to take your rights domestically.
[00:39:07]  Yeah.
[00:39:08]  I don't understand.
[00:39:09]  He talks about how Americana is so sexy.
[00:39:11]  That's why he did.
[00:39:12]  That's exactly what he thinks.
[00:39:14]  He thinks that if we create prosperity in this Americana system of free market and what have you, it'll be such an undeniable system.
[00:39:21]  And that's what people liked about us in the first place.
[00:39:23]  Exactly.
[00:39:24]  So kind of, yeah, he kind of does.
[00:39:26]  He believes exactly what Obama said word for word, but he thinks, well, I don't know if he thinks, but because it's, I could just stop there.
[00:39:35]  Yeah, that might as well be our stopping point for that set.
[00:39:38]  Believes that Obama is saying that we shouldn't attack them.
[00:39:43]  And that's not what he's saying.
[00:39:44]  He's saying it's a - he even said not just bombs, which implies, oh, there's going to be bombs.
[00:39:50]  But Alex believes.
[00:39:50]  And if we take a look at Obama's track record or foreign policy, a lot of bombs.
[00:39:55]  Plenty.
[00:39:56]  But he's saying that at the end there, what you were yelling over, he says, let me translate that for you.
[00:40:02]  These are our proxy armies that are going to go kill Christians.
[00:40:05]  Right.
[00:40:07]  that's not what obama's saying i don't think there's any like there wasn't even a word or or anything that you could twist that into That was just him deliberately misunderstanding.
[00:40:19]  No, no, no, no.
[00:40:20]  Not misunderstanding.
[00:40:21]  Deliberately saying some straight-up bullshit.
[00:40:24]  Just deliberately misleading.
[00:40:25]  Yeah.
[00:40:25]  Yeah.
[00:40:26]  Because otherwise he would have to say.
[00:40:28]  Good call, Obama.
[00:40:29]  Yeah.
[00:40:29]  And he's just going to be a little bit more.
[00:40:30]  And that's just not possible.
[00:40:32]  Nope.
[00:40:32]  Which, again, is why we're all fucked.
[00:40:35]  Like when a Democratic president says something that Republicans agree with, if they can't agree with that, then they just lose their minds.
[00:40:42]  Yeah, and it has to shift to something else.
[00:40:44]  Exactly.
[00:40:44]  Like what we just discussed.
[00:40:45]  Right.
[00:40:46]  You shift the goalposts.
[00:40:47]  You move the conversation to like, oh, shit, I agree with you, but hold on.
[00:40:51]  What about that?
[00:40:51]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:40:52]  No.
[00:40:52]  Benghazi.
[00:40:53]  You're a monster.
[00:40:54]  Emails.
[00:40:56]  So in this next clip, I believe on July 7th here, this is some evidence of Alex beginning to empathize with Trump more than just agreeing with his rhetoric about immigrants.

=== People Treat Trump Hypocritically (05:56) ===

[00:41:08]  I believe this clip shows some kernels of I see myself and him.
[00:41:15]  Like I'm always hearing about engineers who have family here or who have married somebody.
[00:41:20]  Engineers.
[00:41:21]  And they'll say it's a sham marriage and send them out of the country.
[00:41:24]  But then if you want to come here from, again, the biggest group of immigrants now, it's not Mexicans, Chinese, and you come here and have your baby openly.
[00:41:31]  You have the baby two weeks after you arrive.
[00:41:33]  You come, you get your extended stay.
[00:41:35]  It's in the news how they do it.
[00:41:37]  You have your baby, it's all paid for.
[00:41:39]  And then if I don't want to pay for it, I'm racist.
[00:41:41]  Can I go to China and say, I'm here to have my baby?
[00:41:44]  I want my free everything.
[00:41:45]  I mean, it's crazy.
[00:41:48]  And what's really got me angry about this is the Donald.
[00:41:53]  The criticisms of Donald Trump that he's racist.
[00:41:59]  I mean, I've got articles here where Hispanic immigrant laborers, being legal aliens, working on the new Trump building, don't know they want to be around him or work for him.
[00:42:10]  I mean, that's an issue right there.
[00:42:12]  We should investigate Trump.
[00:42:13]  Does he have any illegals working for him?
[00:42:16]  And again, I'm not even against the average person that's up here wanting a better life.
[00:42:21]  The point is that the large minority of the people that are criminals or milk of the system need to be kicked out.
[00:42:31]  I mean, if you can't kick them out, then you don't even have a country.
[00:42:37]  This is Chumpville we're talking about.
[00:42:40]  I mean, I can't go to Mexico or Guatemala or Nicaragua or El Salvador or Colombia or Venezuela or Brazil or Chile.
[00:42:52]  Let's just go south and show up and ask for free arms.
[00:42:55]  They will laugh at you.
[00:42:59]  But you got these big banks and globalist groups that are financing.
[00:43:02]  I mean, J.P. Morgan runs the food stamp program, makes the money off of it, takes the taxpayer money.
[00:43:08]  They're behind it all.
[00:43:13]  Donald Trump signature collection made in Mexico.
[00:43:19]  Yeah, and I think Donald Trump will argue, yeah, those are good seamstress people working in Mexico.
[00:43:23]  I'm all for trade.
[00:43:24]  I'm all for open business because they're now going after him saying he's a hypocrite making stuff in Mexico.
[00:43:29]  I actually buy coffee from Mexico because it's the best coffee, according to my palate, and it helps local farmers.
[00:43:36]  I'm not against helping people in Mexico.
[00:43:38]  That's the answer.
[00:43:39]  But you just said you were.
[00:43:42]  But now the media is going to be.
[00:43:43]  Don't believe anything.
[00:43:45]  Don't believe all.
[00:43:46]  Where was that article from?
[00:43:47]  That's an interesting find.
[00:43:49]  That Huffington Post and what are they saying?
[00:43:52]  Let me see the headline, please.
[00:43:53]  Donald Trump gets his stuff made in Mexico by those lazy people.
[00:43:58]  He didn't say that.
[00:43:58]  He said the bad are coming up here in some cases.
[00:44:03]  Internet reminds Donald Trump his signature collection is made in Mexico.
[00:44:07]  And that's what I'm seeing from Huving and Post and Raw Story.
[00:44:09]  It's like, Hispanics are hurt that Donald Trump says they're lazy.
[00:44:13]  Donald Trump didn't say that.
[00:44:15]  I'm sick of you liars.
[00:44:16]  It's incredible.
[00:44:17]  It's incredible.
[00:44:19]  Amazing.
[00:44:20]  So he's created a straw man of the argument that Trump made is that Mexicans are lazy.
[00:44:25]  That's because it's the easiest stereotype that Alex can grab onto.
[00:44:29]  Of course.
[00:44:29]  That's not what people were responding to at all.
[00:44:31]  So he responds to this fake argument to create victimhood for Trump and victimhood for himself.
[00:44:38]  He's starting to see the way that the media treats Donald Trump, and it mirrors the way the media treats Alex.
[00:44:45]  And I think that he's internalizing that.
[00:44:47]  What's fascinating to me there is he goes, why is everybody thinking that Donald Trump is a hypocrite just because he has.
[00:44:54]  And then earlier in that very same clip, he's like, maybe we should find out if he has illegals working for him.
[00:45:00]  Right.
[00:45:01]  And you're like, no, you, Alex?
[00:45:05]  Alex, you did that.
[00:45:08]  Bad.
[00:45:09]  You did that.
[00:45:10]  But also, the reason people talked about him being a hypocrite for having his clothes made in foreign countries is that his whole platform was America first.
[00:45:17]  Make America first and great again.
[00:45:19]  Yeah, so that's the reason that people were clowning on him for that.
[00:45:22]  And understandably, they should have.
[00:45:24]  Yeah, well, it's because it's hypocritical and stupid and ridiculous.
[00:45:29]  The argument that he got a good deal doing that isn't a good argument.
[00:45:35]  That doesn't work.
[00:45:36]  No, you got a good deal.
[00:45:37]  Because if you care about...
[00:45:38]  Art of the deal.
[00:45:39]  But if he's a deal maker.
[00:45:40]  But if you care about America at all and you're holding from the chiopus farmers.
[00:45:46]  What's the best coffee for my palate?
[00:45:48]  I don't know.
[00:45:49]  I go Ethiopian Yergashev, but be that as it may.
[00:45:52]  Uh-uh.
[00:45:53]  I go Folger's tastes like balls.
[00:45:59]  America first.
[00:45:59]  Folger's coffee.
[00:46:01]  So, I mean, that's just, I think that's pretty interesting because I legitimately do think that he's starting to see the way people treat Trump.
[00:46:09]  And like, that's similar to how people treat me.
[00:46:12]  I don't think it's enough to get him on board yet because obviously it's not.
[00:46:15]  No.
[00:46:16]  But there's trends, some Gerald Salenti-style trends that are starting to bubble up.
[00:46:21]  Once he starts defending Trump, then it's a pretty short walk.
[00:46:26]  Right?
[00:46:27]  Once you start defending a guy, he's going to become your guy.
[00:46:30]  No, because he's still just defending the words.
[00:46:33]  He's still attacking the man.
[00:46:35]  He's still saying that I don't trust him, even if he is defending him.
[00:46:39]  But I think that there's subconscious forces that are going on inside Alex that he might not even be aware of.

=== Sandy Hook Shadows (15:29) ===

[00:46:44]  Now, be that as it may.
[00:46:45]  Like love.
[00:46:46]  I told you that July 7th was a weird fucking episode, and here's why.
[00:46:51]  Presented without comment.
[00:46:53]  We have been warned.
[00:46:58]  We have been warned.
[00:47:00]  We have been threatened.
[00:47:01]  We have been told through official channels, unofficial channels, threats, you name it, stop investigating Sandy Hook.
[00:47:11]  Now, when this first happened a few years ago, I didn't come out of the gate saying it was a false flag.
[00:47:16]  Yes, you did.
[00:47:17]  And I got criticized by a lot of our listeners who were smart folks and who went and really investigated that, hey, Alex, you need to look at this again.
[00:47:28]  All I know Is that the official story doesn't add up, and that when retired state police officers and school investigation experts and school safety experts and others began to investigate it, they were threatened.
[00:47:46]  No emergency helicopters were sent.
[00:47:49]  The ambulances came an hour and a half later and parked down the road.
[00:47:52]  DHS, an hour and a half later with a time stamp, put up signs saying sign in here.
[00:47:57]  They had port-a-potties being delivered within an hour and a half.
[00:48:00]  It looked like a carnival.
[00:48:01]  Looked like a big PR snunt.
[00:48:03]  Came out that Bloomberg, a day before, sent an email out to his gun control groups in all 50 states saying prepare to roll.
[00:48:11]  We're a major operation coming up.
[00:48:14]  That came out in the news.
[00:48:15]  No, it didn't.
[00:48:16]  It didn't.
[00:48:16]  We have the emails from city council back and forth and the school talking about it being shut down a year before.
[00:48:22]  Nope.
[00:48:23]  We have the school then being demolished and the records being sealed.
[00:48:28]  Yep.
[00:48:28]  We have videos that look just incredibly suspicious where people are laughing and everything and they start huffing and puffing and start crying on TV, which is pure acting method.
[00:48:39]  You've got a degree, Rob, in theater.
[00:48:41]  I mean, this is something that even lay people notice.
[00:48:45]  So I began to investigate.
[00:48:46]  So here's a couple important things to break down here.
[00:48:49]  All of those things that he brought up have been explained and debunked.
[00:48:52]  Right.
[00:48:53]  If you look into them, the person that he's talking about, the school investigator who's been threatened, is a guy named Wolfgang Helbig.
[00:49:00]  Halbig.
[00:49:02]  That name alone is enough to threaten him.
[00:49:04]  If you look into him, he is a con artist.
[00:49:07]  He is a guy who has raised crazy amounts of money in quote-unquote investigating Sandy Hook.
[00:49:14]  He's a guy who has offered bounties for proof of various things throughout the years, and people have provided proof.
[00:49:23]  And he's been like, no, not real.
[00:49:25]  He's been like, I'll give you $1,000 if you can give me a picture of X, Y, and Z. People show up, give him pictures, and he's like, nope, not good enough.
[00:49:33]  Nope.
[00:49:33]  Doesn't have metadata on the image.
[00:49:35]  That's a good racket.
[00:49:36]  Yeah, it totally is.
[00:49:37]  That's a good racket.
[00:49:38]  He is an absolute con artist.
[00:49:39]  He's been harassing the family members of the children who died.
[00:49:44]  It's disgraceful.
[00:49:46]  He makes the argument that the kids who allegedly died were the ones who were at the Super Bowl, who got to sing.
[00:49:53]  I can't remember who they sang with.
[00:49:54]  Jennifer Hudson.
[00:49:55]  I refuse to even engage with the words you just said.
[00:50:00]  Forensic specialists have documented that absolutely those aren't the same kids.
[00:50:06]  No.
[00:50:07]  Right.
[00:50:07]  No.
[00:50:08]  Who cares?
[00:50:08]  I refuse.
[00:50:09]  No, no, no.
[00:50:10]  I don't.
[00:50:11]  Why would you need to bring?
[00:50:13]  Oh, I know where we're going to hide these kids next to Jennifer Hudson at the Super Bowl.
[00:50:18]  Fuck you.
[00:50:19]  That's lesser magic.
[00:50:20]  That's dumb.
[00:50:21]  Lesser magic.
[00:50:22]  Dump.
[00:50:22]  Now, here's the next thing.
[00:50:24]  The story that Alex Jones keeps pushing whenever he brings up Sandy Hook is that Michael Bloomberg, because he wants to take everyone's guns, the night before told everybody it's time to ride.
[00:50:33]  Right, right.
[00:50:34]  As if he knew that.
[00:50:34]  As if he also was leading a posse in the old West.
[00:50:39]  Sure.
[00:50:40]  I've looked into this.
[00:50:41]  I've tried to find evidence of this.
[00:50:43]  I can't find any evidence on any reputable news source.
[00:50:46]  I can't find any evidence of this even on disreputable news sources.
[00:50:50]  I can't find any article even about this on InfoWars.
[00:50:52]  So you can just make this shit up.
[00:50:54]  I found one article on Infowars about Mike Bloomberg and how he wants to take your guns, and he was ready for Sandy Hook.
[00:51:02]  Now, the article links to another article about how, after the Aurora shooting, the Batman shooting, Michael Bloomberg made a very serious effort in order to push gun control because he was shocked and horrified.
[00:51:18]  Tons of people died.
[00:51:19]  Yet another senseless shooting.
[00:51:20]  Yeah.
[00:51:21]  And if you look at Mike Bloomberg's history, one of the big things that he focuses on, and what seems to be a real big issue for him, is avoidable deaths.
[00:51:29]  So it's people like to clown about how he tried to outlaw big sodas, you know, giant sodas in New York.
[00:51:36]  Yeah.
[00:51:36]  But the reason is sugar kills a lot of people that don't need to die.
[00:51:41]  Right.
[00:51:42]  Like this delicious faygo cotton candy.
[00:51:45]  Jesus Christ.
[00:51:46]  Right.
[00:51:47]  But so the gun, the gun stuff matches up very close with a lot of his philosophies about deaths that don't need to happen don't need to happen.
[00:51:55]  Right.
[00:51:55]  So after the Aurora shooting, he did try and put together some organizations, some allies to work on gun control.
[00:52:05]  And that's the only evidence that they offer at all.
[00:52:08]  Yeah, that was all set up the day before Sandy Hook.
[00:52:10]  I think it was like three or four months before Sandy Hook.
[00:52:14]  And so whenever Sandy Hook did end up happening, of course he was prepared.
[00:52:21]  He didn't talk to people the night before with foreknowledge.
[00:52:25]  Right.
[00:52:25]  Now, the most important.
[00:52:26]  Also, why would you even need to set one up?
[00:52:29]  You can just wait.
[00:52:30]  There's going to be another mass shooting.
[00:52:32]  Why would you ever need to false flag a mass shooting?
[00:52:37]  But I think that's just wait a week.
[00:52:38]  I think that's why Bloomberg started making moves after the Aurora one, knowing that eventually something's going to happen.
[00:52:44]  Of course.
[00:52:44]  And we should be prepared to help.
[00:52:47]  Alex laying out that evidence is, it sounds like if OJ defended himself in his trial, just like, yeah, no, this is true.
[00:52:56]  It's weak.
[00:52:57]  Yeah, this is bullshit.
[00:52:58]  So this isn't why this is super fucked up.
[00:53:00]  We're going to get into why.
[00:53:02]  But I want you to take note of one thing from that clip that is very important.
[00:53:08]  He's talking to Rob Dew, who has now resurfaced.
[00:53:14]  He's gotten back from his detox to get all that super mail out of him.
[00:53:18]  At the end of that clip, he says, you have a degree in theater.
[00:53:23]  Rob Dew isn't a journalist.
[00:53:25]  He has a degree in theater.
[00:53:27]  Is it a master's?
[00:53:28]  I don't know.
[00:53:29]  Does he have an MFA?
[00:53:30]  I don't know.
[00:53:31]  I want to know.
[00:53:31]  I'm just going based on what Alex just said.
[00:53:33]  I want to know.
[00:53:33]  Can he teach?
[00:53:34]  He's not trained in journalism.
[00:53:37]  No.
[00:53:38]  He is a theater major.
[00:53:39]  And he is a terrible actor.
[00:53:42]  Yeah, he's very, he does not have that it factor.
[00:53:45]  No, he should have changed focuses.
[00:53:48]  So Alex has laid out some real bad evidence in terms of Sandy Hook, but the real story here.
[00:53:55]  It'd be nice to discover that Rob Dew is actually an amazing playwright.
[00:53:59]  Sure.
[00:53:59]  Like, he's just so good.
[00:54:01]  This is some deep cover research.
[00:54:03]  Or he is an amazing, vibrant, super interesting guy who's playing boring.
[00:54:08]  Ooh, man.
[00:54:10]  That could be.
[00:54:11]  Maybe he's a terrible actor, or maybe he's the best actor.
[00:54:14]  It's possible.
[00:54:15]  But you know what?
[00:54:15]  He has family members.
[00:54:17]  And that's something that is important.
[00:54:19]  He's Daniel Dew Lewis.
[00:54:20]  That's what's going on.
[00:54:23]  We're going to get into Rob Dew's family now.
[00:54:25]  But now, your uncle, John Dew, Navy SEAL, retired FBI agent, works for a successful security company.
[00:54:37]  I had missed this episode of the Nightly News back on June 4th.
[00:54:41]  And then again, last week when you did an update.
[00:54:45]  And then I heard you talking about it yesterday.
[00:54:47]  I knew that we'd sent our reporter Dan Badondi there for days to cover the city council hearings about it and the fact that they're sealing everything.
[00:54:55]  And then you just said, oh, yes, and that's why I'm trying to get my uncle to tell me more because he's been in John Gotti hearings and been involved in huge cases, a pretty prominent FBI agent before he retired.
[00:55:09]  And in his words, he said he's seen the most secretive mafia stuff ever, and he's never seen people more closed-lipped.
[00:55:16]  He's never seen something where it basically stinks.
[00:55:19]  So Rob Dew's uncle is investigating Sandy Hook.
[00:55:23]  Why is a Navy SEAL former FBI guy, too, though?
[00:55:27]  Okay.
[00:55:28]  Yeah.
[00:55:28]  All right.
[00:55:29]  Former FBI agent who investigated mobs is up there in Sandy Hook, Connecticut.
[00:55:35]  I call bullshit.
[00:55:36]  Totally.
[00:55:38]  I call utter bullshit.
[00:55:40]  But he was there.
[00:55:41]  He was at the hearing.
[00:55:42]  Okay.
[00:55:43]  And we'll get to the actual interview that they air with John Dew.
[00:55:48]  Russian.
[00:55:48]  They have it.
[00:55:49]  Dan Badanti.
[00:55:51]  And then they have Tim Dew, Sleepy Dew, Angry Dew, Morning Dew.
[00:55:57]  Yeah.
[00:55:57]  Mountain Dew.
[00:56:00]  So they're going on a lot.
[00:56:05]  They're taking something very small and spreading it out to be something major.
[00:56:11]  As big as it could be.
[00:56:12]  And the reality of what they could report.
[00:56:15]  They shouldn't report this.
[00:56:16]  No.
[00:56:16]  Because it's nothing.
[00:56:17]  They should make 10 different types of TV.
[00:56:19]  My uncle was in Connecticut.
[00:56:22]  That's the news.
[00:56:25]  So here we go.
[00:56:26]  Let's just get through some of these clips because it's nonsense.
[00:56:30]  A Connecticut Yankee in Sandy Hook's court.
[00:56:32]  Let's ask your opinion, your gut level, without getting into the personalities involved.
[00:56:38]  You can clearly see they're scared.
[00:56:39]  The wagons are circled.
[00:56:40]  They could just release all this.
[00:56:41]  There is no paperwork.
[00:56:42]  Oh, there is none.
[00:56:43]  It's all so, I mean, I guess totally made up with green screens, everything.
[00:56:48]  And we've got them on green screens.
[00:56:50]  I mean, what is going on here?
[00:56:52]  That's how evil these people are, is that they can have CNN involved, all these people.
[00:56:57]  It's like a Manhattan project of the gun grabbers.
[00:56:59]  I love that.
[00:57:00]  A Manhattan project of the gun grabbers.
[00:57:03]  The gun grabbers.
[00:57:05]  But so based on what he's saying, I can't believe they're this evil.
[00:57:08]  You'd have to have so many people involved, which is pretty much the reason why it's very unreasonable to think this.
[00:57:14]  Yeah.
[00:57:14]  But again, right there in that clip, Alex in present day claims that he never said Sandy Hook was fake.
[00:57:21]  He never said all that.
[00:57:22]  We have the one clip we routinely play where he says no one died.
[00:57:27]  It was all actors.
[00:57:28]  And here, he's doing a half-hour segment on the June 7th, 2015 show.
[00:57:32]  July 7th, excuse me.
[00:57:34]  So I want to see Robert Redford star in the gun grabbers.
[00:57:42]  I think that would be a good one.
[00:57:43]  Not Daniel Dew Lewis?
[00:57:44]  No, no, no, no.
[00:57:45]  Definitely not Daniel D. Lewis.
[00:57:47]  So this next clip, we get to the actual interview with...
[00:57:49]  It seems like a 70s movie.
[00:57:52]  Yeah, probably.
[00:57:53]  No, I think it's a Spaghetti Western.
[00:57:55]  It's a sequel to The Sting.
[00:57:57]  Yeah.
[00:57:58]  There was a sequel to The Sting.
[00:57:59]  Oh, was there?
[00:58:00]  Yeah, there was The Sting, too.
[00:58:01]  Any good?
[00:58:02]  Nope.
[00:58:03]  So in this next clip, we get to the actual interview with John Dew and crack reporter Dan Badondi, who is no longer around.
[00:58:10]  I've never heard that name before.
[00:58:11]  I don't think he's around anymore.
[00:58:12]  But anyway, here we go.
[00:58:13]  Dead?
[00:58:14]  I mean, ladies and gentlemen, we are on to something big here.
[00:58:17]  Let's go ahead and go to part of this clip with your uncle.
[00:58:20]  This is John Dew, our news director's uncle that we just suddenly see at the Sandy Hook hearing with our reporter.
[00:58:28]  Here's Dan Badanti.
[00:58:31]  You witnessed the whole heritage.
[00:58:32]  And here's my uncle with commentary.
[00:58:33]  No, no.
[00:58:34]  No, but being here today, what did you think of the whole thing?
[00:58:37]  Very strange.
[00:58:38]  Very strange.
[00:58:39]  Very strange situation.
[00:58:40]  Yes.
[00:58:41]  Yeah, so what do you expect to come out of this?
[00:58:43]  You think they're going to try to cover this up, or is this going to go anywhere?
[00:58:46]  I really don't know.
[00:58:47]  I've never seen anything like this before.
[00:58:50]  And again, I wish, I'm glad Badani was there.
[00:58:52]  Great job.
[00:58:53]  And I wish it would have gone on more.
[00:58:54]  Yeah.
[00:58:55]  Yeah, no shit.
[00:58:56]  Badondi was the one.
[00:58:57]  Badondi is the guy who sounds like he's from Jersey.
[00:59:01]  Yes.
[00:59:01]  Yes.
[00:59:02]  How do you take a man like that seriously?
[00:59:04]  I don't know.
[00:59:05]  There's a reason that most reputable news organizations don't send a man on the street interview out there with like, hey, what do you feel about Obama doing this stuff, huh?
[00:59:15]  Hey, what do you think?
[00:59:17]  Hey, you think this is a cover-up?
[00:59:20]  Yeah.
[00:59:20]  I think it might be a cover-up.
[00:59:23]  You think this is a cover-up?
[00:59:25]  Yeah, I know.
[00:59:25]  I mean, even the local Chicago news doesn't have people suddenly.
[00:59:29]  But be that as it may.
[00:59:30]  Which they fucking should.
[00:59:31]  Totally.
[00:59:32]  I would watch.
[00:59:32]  absolutely but so we've got Danny Callis is a man on the street interviewer we've We've got a 10-second clip where all he says is, this is weird.
[00:59:42]  Never seen anything like this before.
[00:59:44]  Which could mean I've never seen anything this horrifying.
[00:59:46]  I've never seen something this tragic.
[00:59:48]  Could mean any number of things, and they're just extrapolating it because there's private conversations that Rob Dew has had with his uncle, which don't spell out anything more.
[00:59:58]  Private conversations.
[00:59:59]  So Alex, at this point, tries to get Rob Dew to give a quote about these private conversations.
[01:00:05]  But it's such a good idea, if you're a bullshit artist, to not ask direct questions.
[01:00:11]  Like in the press pool at the White House, whenever they're asking Sean Spicer those inane, pointless questions, if you just got like, if you just got a direct answer from somebody, then you have to engage with that.
[01:00:24]  But if you're like Badondi, then you can just ask a random ass question, and he says, could be.
[01:00:31]  And that means that you can say whatever you want.
[01:00:34]  You can just go wherever.
[01:00:35]  He thinks it's fake.
[01:00:36]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:00:37]  So, like I said, Alex is pushing for some inside information about the conversation that Rob Dew had with his uncle.
[01:00:43]  Right.
[01:00:43]  And there's some true comedy in this clip where Alex sort of tries to explain what Rob Dew's job is a little bit.
[01:00:51]  Oh, no.
[01:00:51]  This is really funny.
[01:00:53]  He wasn't saying a lot, but he's like, you know, Robert, this is strange.
[01:00:55]  I've never seen anything like it.
[01:00:57]  Never seen anything like it.
[01:00:58]  And he's been in court cases.
[01:00:59]  It's not like his first person.
[01:01:00]  But you said he also said it doesn't add up.
[01:01:02]  Oh, yeah.
[01:01:02]  Well, yeah, nothing adds up.
[01:01:03]  It adds up.
[01:01:04]  Oh, it's just exact quote because I want to put up an article.
[01:01:07]  I would say take that from there.
[01:01:08]  I will.
[01:01:09]  Sure, but let me explain something.
[01:01:10]  You're a reporter.
[01:01:12]  You're a news director.
[01:01:13]  This is your uncle.
[01:01:14]  It's incredible for you to quote somebody.
[01:01:16]  Go back to the memory.
[01:01:16]  What did he say?
[01:01:18]  I'll think about the exact words, but no, from what I remember, because I was in the car driving while I was talking to him.
[01:01:25]  I had an earpiece.
[01:01:26]  I understand.
[01:01:26]  I was talking to him.
[01:01:27]  Because I wanted to get something out of him before we did the   ⁇  because we did the show that night that day on the 4th, and I wanted to talk about it.
[01:01:33]  I said, hey, I've got this short interview with you, you know, and you're saying it's strange.
[01:01:37]  It doesn't add up.
[01:01:38]  He's like, I've never been in a court proceeding like that ever, where people don't know anything.
[01:01:43]  Alex is sick of the bullshit.
[01:01:45]  He wants him to just come up with a quote, and he's saying, I don't really remember what exactly he said.
[01:01:51]  Fuck it, it's credible.
[01:01:52]  You're the news director.
[01:01:53]  Just say whatever.
[01:01:54]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:01:54]  That's such bad journalistic ethics.

=== Rob Dew's Improv Training (06:34) ===

[01:01:57]  It's less like, tell me the truth, and more like, make up something good, asshole.
[01:02:02]  What do you think I pay you for?
[01:02:03]  You have credibility.
[01:02:04]  You're the news director.
[01:02:05]  Make up something.
[01:02:07]  Dumbass.
[01:02:07]  Just lie in a good way.
[01:02:10]  Yeah.
[01:02:10]  And all Rob Dew will say is the stuff that comes from that 10-second video.
[01:02:14]  Yeah.
[01:02:15]  He should have a degree in improv training because then he could have yes-anded.
[01:02:19]  Even the stuff that he says that he said in a private conversation is just the same stuff that's in that Dan Badonbi clip.
[01:02:24]  Yeah.
[01:02:24]  There's nothing here.
[01:02:25]  He said he's never seen anything like this in the court proceedings.
[01:02:28]  Now, Alex.
[01:02:29]  And he's been in court cases before.
[01:02:31]  He has.
[01:02:31]  How many court cases?
[01:02:32]  All of them.
[01:02:33]  Everyone.
[01:02:34]  That's how we know that he's never seen anything like that.
[01:02:36]  Totally.
[01:02:37]  And that's a credible report.
[01:02:38]  So Alex at this point is sick of the bullshit.
[01:02:41]  And so here is him sort of giving Rob Dew some shit.
[01:02:45]  This is also pretty funny.
[01:02:46]  Where does he live up there?
[01:02:48]  Yeah.
[01:02:48]  He lives up.
[01:02:49]  He doesn't live in Connecticut.
[01:02:51]  He lives south of New York City.
[01:02:55]  Oh, so New Jersey.
[01:02:57]  Anyway, come on.
[01:02:58]  It's not a secret agent thing.
[01:03:01]  The people that did Sandy Hook knows where your uncle lives.
[01:03:03]  I'm sure they do.
[01:03:04]  It's like Larry Nichols gives his home address.
[01:03:07]  Yeah, he's just like, just fucking tell me where your uncle lives, you dumbass.
[01:03:13]  So he lives in New Jersey.
[01:03:14]  Jesus Christ.
[01:03:15]  He lives south of New York.
[01:03:18]  Oh, you mean Jersey?
[01:03:20]  I love that.
[01:03:20]  But then also the other important thing there is just phrasing because he's like, the people who did Sandy Hook know where your uncle lives, which is implying that there are people who did Sandy Hook.
[01:03:28]  Yeah, the people who did it.
[01:03:29]  Yeah.
[01:03:30]  So, Alex, we know what you believe.
[01:03:31]  You're busted.
[01:03:32]  There's no way around this.
[01:03:34]  I mean, we have now two episodes where you just straight up do exactly what you claim you didn't do.
[01:03:41]  And I believe we've at least touched on it on three other episodes as well.
[01:03:46]  Totally.
[01:03:46]  And this episode, he also talks about how everyone thinks that he said Jade Helm was real, but he's like, I didn't say it was real.
[01:03:53]  I said it's conditioning.
[01:03:55]  Yeah.
[01:03:55]  And I don't care to go back and dig through all the episodes and find out where he actually said Jade Helm is real.
[01:04:01]  Yeah, we can assume.
[01:04:02]  Yeah, based on the fact that he's.
[01:04:04]  So far, we've had a 100% batting average whenever going back whenever he says I didn't say this.
[01:04:10]  We're like, oh, and it was this day.
[01:04:12]  If he says it's in the mainstream news, everybody knows.
[01:04:16]  That means it's not true.
[01:04:17]  If he says, I didn't say it, he fucking says it.
[01:04:19]  He's totally said it.
[01:04:20]  So we're done with July 7th.
[01:04:23]  And now we move to July 8th.
[01:04:25]  Right.
[01:04:25]  And one of the important things that I don't have audio of just because it's long and boring is in this episode, Alex expresses some pretty strong support for Nigel Farage and the UKIP.
[01:04:38]  Not good.
[01:04:38]  At this point.
[01:04:39]  Considering how Nigel is now part of the FBI investigation into Russian hacking, this is not great.
[01:04:45]  Is almost certainly Roger Stone's back channel to Julian Assange.
[01:04:49]  You think so?
[01:04:50]  I would say almost 100%.
[01:04:51]  Okay.
[01:04:52]  The fact that Nigel Farage has been seen going to the embassy, and he was questioned when he came out of the embassy, what were you doing in there?
[01:05:01]  He said, I don't remember.
[01:05:03]  Oh.
[01:05:04]  Yeah.
[01:05:05]  Right when he came out.
[01:05:05]  Of the Ecuadorian embassy.
[01:05:07]  Like he walked into the Ecuadorian embassy.
[01:05:09]  Yep.
[01:05:09]  Did a thing.
[01:05:10]  Yep.
[01:05:10]  And when he left the Ecuadorian embassy.
[01:05:12]  People were like, what are you doing in there?
[01:05:14]  He forgot what it was he was doing in there.
[01:05:16]  I have no idea what I was doing in there.
[01:05:17]  So we can assume.
[01:05:19]  It's not good.
[01:05:19]  Julian Assange, hypnotist.
[01:05:22]  Totally.
[01:05:23]  That makes sense.
[01:05:23]  No, he has that men in black thing.
[01:05:25]  Oh, yeah, there we go.
[01:05:27]  Two men in black references on the same episode, guys.
[01:05:30]  You're all getting policy wonk material for free.
[01:05:34]  Can we make a hat trick?
[01:05:36]  We'll see.
[01:05:38]  So he expresses, and at this point, the Brexit hasn't happened yet.
[01:05:42]  Right.
[01:05:43]  So Nigel Farage is just a four-time failed politician, whack job, anti-immigration, anti-EU kind of guy.
[01:05:54]  Right.
[01:05:54]  Which makes sense.
[01:05:55]  He's a dick.
[01:05:56]  But it makes sense why Alex would be into him.
[01:05:59]  He's a white nationalist.
[01:06:00]  There are similarities between the two of their worldviews, but it's important that we bring that up because it does feed into my crazy theory that I'll be getting to at the end.
[01:06:08]  Yes.
[01:06:08]  This is one of the important building blocks.
[01:06:10]  The grand unified field theory of right-wing propaganda.
[01:06:13]  Well, much like how on our last episode we showed that Alex was super into Jeff Sessions even before he was a part of Trump's campaign.
[01:06:20]  Right.
[01:06:20]  It's important that we have this pre-Brexit, pre-Trump involvement with Nigel Farage in with Alex.
[01:06:28]  Alex is into him.
[01:06:29]  Right.
[01:06:30]  And apparently he's been on the show before.
[01:06:32]  I don't have episodes.
[01:06:33]  I haven't heard any episodes where Farage is on, but he apparently has been a guest.
[01:06:36]  It's like we're doing the Marvel Universe team-up.
[01:06:39]  Like, we're doing the films that they use to set up the Avengers.
[01:06:43]  Yeah.
[01:06:44]  Like, that's what's going on right now.
[01:06:45]  It kind of is.
[01:06:46]  Yeah, let's call Nigel Farage Thor.
[01:06:49]  Let's do that.
[01:06:51]  Because he's from a different country.
[01:06:53]  He's a fish out of water in America.
[01:06:55]  This should be Suicide Squad backstory or something like that because they're bad guys.
[01:06:59]  But then also, it's very disappointing.
[01:07:02]  The end result is a very.
[01:07:04]  Yeah, okay.
[01:07:06]  There we go.
[01:07:06]  Nigel Farage is sending his cast members used condoms.
[01:07:09]  Right.
[01:07:11]  So on July 8th, he talks a lot about collapse.
[01:07:15]  And Jakari Jackson is, of course, Will Smith because he's so much better than this shit.
[01:07:19]  He's also someone who quit the movie.
[01:07:20]  Yeah, it's like Will Smith said, I'm out.
[01:07:22]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:07:22]  No, I'm not doing this shit anymore.
[01:07:24]  So on July 8th, one of the news stories that Alex covers is that the Chinese stock market took a little bit of a dip.
[01:07:31]  And he claims that this is proof that the class collapses.
[01:07:35]  Buy gold.
[01:07:36]  Apparently, also, our stock market went down, not like price-wise, but trading stopped after the Chinese stock market went down numerically.
[01:07:47]  And the story that the stock market people gave was that it was a technical glitch.
[01:07:52]  He believes that it's the globalists coming in to stop the market from being destroyed.
[01:07:58]  I think the reality is that the thing that we've discussed in the past a bunch is that so much trading is done on a micro scale by robots.
[01:08:06]  And they shut down the markets because these robots would misinterpret things and start selling off shit.
[01:08:12]  And you would have an artificial collapse.

=== Talking About Trump (05:47) ===

[01:08:14]  Right.
[01:08:14]  Basically, read Michael Lewis's book on the electronic trading.
[01:08:20]  Yeah.
[01:08:20]  So I think that that's the most likely scenario.
[01:08:22]  And it's nothing nefarious.
[01:08:23]  It's just we have to save the ship.
[01:08:25]  So shut it down because these robots are going to destroy the market.
[01:08:29]  Right.
[01:08:29]  So Alex thinks there's something evil going on, but again, he's just using it to push selling gold.
[01:08:35]  So it's not all that interesting.
[01:08:38]  But what is interesting is he does get back to talking about Trump a tiny bit on this episode.
[01:08:42]  I live in Austin, Texas.
[01:08:44]  Oh, do you?
[01:08:45]  I haven't heard.
[01:08:46]  Beautiful heart of this republic filled with people I want to kill and punch failures that couldn't make it in California and other states who disgust me.
[01:08:57]  They disgust me.
[01:08:57]  Here lecturing us on their ways of regulations and raiding people's funds and destroying society.
[01:09:08]  Vague.
[01:09:10]  And they're running around celebrating in the streets downtown Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
[01:09:15]  People walk up, ha ha, how do you like it?
[01:09:17]  Donald Trump's been discredited.
[01:09:18]  As if that even matters.
[01:09:21]  It's not just the faux story, the rebel flag, the Donald Trump, the Caitlin Jenner.
[01:09:27]  Will he have his member removed?
[01:09:32]  I mean, this is like a PCP hallucination.
[01:09:36]  Yeah.
[01:09:37]  What do you think?
[01:09:38]  Your boy, Trump's in trouble.
[01:09:41]  And I go, Donald Trump's never been my boy.
[01:09:44]  I think he's a ringer.
[01:09:45]  Oh, yeah, sure.
[01:09:46]  You're losing right now.
[01:09:48]  You lose and you're losing.
[01:09:49]  You're losing.
[01:09:50]  I'm like, no, actually, what he's saying is the truth.
[01:09:52]  I mean, Mexico's collapsed in a total crime wave.
[01:09:56]  I mean, are you denying the illegal alien crime wave?
[01:09:59]  You people never get it.
[01:10:01]  Your time's over.
[01:10:02]  Your time's over.
[01:10:04]  You'll be looking at some liberal with non-matching socks that they wear like they're God.
[01:10:09]  I don't care if you're wearing non-matching socks.
[01:10:11]  I don't understand.
[01:10:12]  I don't care if you've got a handlebar mustache.
[01:10:14]  I don't care.
[01:10:14]  But the fact that you have it, you think you've now attained godhood, that you're so ignorant, you don't know what July 4th is, but you're running around celebrating, we're the Democrats, we're winning, Donald Trump's in trouble,
[01:10:30]  while the global stock market's melting down, while they put cancer viruses in the vaccines and prepare forced inoculations and feed us GMOs that sterilize every mammal species that's fed them within three generations.
[01:10:47]  I don't.
[01:10:48]  We're now into the second generation of eating the stuff.
[01:10:51]  Our fertility is sperm counts are down 90 plus percent.
[01:10:55]  The IQs have dropped 14 points.
[01:10:57]  Cancer's up 3,000 plus percent on average.
[01:10:59]  Diabetes almost 3,000.
[01:11:00]  Somewhere in your hardcore attack, and you're too busy sucking your thumb having faux imaginary victories watching Mr. Madow.
[01:11:08]  What?
[01:11:09]  What is it you don't get about this, jackass, that I've transcended all your fake left-right garbage?
[01:11:15]  We're under globalist total attack, and you can't even figure it out because you can't easily watching television and obsessing over the rebel tag all day!
[01:11:25]  I legitimately don't get why you're confused.
[01:11:27]  What is he just fucking?
[01:11:29]  What was he saying?
[01:11:30]  I think it speaks for itself.
[01:11:32]  I don't know what it's.
[01:11:33]  I don't know what itself is.
[01:11:35]  We've lost 90% of our sperms.
[01:11:37]  I don't know what he's.
[01:11:39]  Was there, was there, track that.
[01:11:41]  Track any of that from start to finish.
[01:11:43]  Okay.
[01:11:45]  I want to play that again just to figure out where we start.
[01:11:48]  I can't.
[01:11:49]  It's three minutes long.
[01:11:50]  I know.
[01:11:51]  So the idea.
[01:11:52]  It was endless.
[01:11:53]  So we could portion it off into sort of two parts.
[01:11:56]  Right.
[01:11:56]  The first part is people are taunting him believing that he's on board with Trump.
[01:12:00]  Right.
[01:12:00]  Because spiritually, he is.
[01:12:02]  Of course.
[01:12:02]  Even though he's not, he does mirror a lot of Trump's negative.
[01:12:06]  The things that people are mad about Trump about, they're mad about Alex for, too.
[01:12:10]  Exactly.
[01:12:10]  So a lot of people are conflating it.
[01:12:11]  And that's the first part.
[01:12:13]  Him sort of realizing through everyone else's judgment, I guess, that he is.
[01:12:19]  Oh, I'm a liberal.
[01:12:20]  He's compatriots with Trump inasmuch as people attack them similarly because they're both bigoted.
[01:12:27]  Right.
[01:12:27]  The second part is Trump is a distraction in the same vein as complaining about the flag, the battle flag, or Caitlin Jenner.
[01:12:36]  Complaining about those things are the exact same thing as Trump.
[01:12:39]  He's a distraction.
[01:12:40]  He's not my boy.
[01:12:41]  I don't care about him.
[01:12:43]  It's just a distraction.
[01:12:44]  And the more important thing is that the globalists are attacking us and killing our sperms.
[01:12:49]  And GMO foods kill the reproductive capacity of mammal species within three generations, and we're in the second.
[01:12:59]  Oh, okay.
[01:13:00]  Now I get it.
[01:13:01]  There we go.
[01:13:01]  Makes perfect sense now.
[01:13:02]  Right.
[01:13:03]  Now that you've just condensed that three-minute barrage of people who wear different types of socks think they're gods.
[01:13:10]  Also, I didn't have time to do this just because of my schedule, but I was going to make a supercut of all the times he talks about mismatched socks.
[01:13:18]  He talks about it a lot.
[01:13:19]  Really?
[01:13:19]  Yeah, it comes up in like three episodes during this time span.
[01:13:23]  He's mentioned it.
[01:13:24]  Did he just see like one guy with mismatched socks and then he's like, I can't fucking handle this.
[01:13:28]  Absolutely.
[01:13:29]  He talked about it on another episode that we've done in the past, too.
[01:13:31]  It seems to be like handlebar mustache, mismatched socks.
[01:13:35]  That's a trendy.
[01:13:37]  That's sort of like his go-to's.
[01:13:38]  And the other one is he believes that liberals and trendies love Islam because they smoke hookahs.
[01:13:44]  Of course.
[01:13:44]  That's sort of like his way of being really reductive and not having to wrestle with anything.

=== The Big One Predicted (03:47) ===

[01:13:49]  Right.
[01:13:50]  So, yeah, that's pretty dumb.
[01:13:52]  But it still indicates that as of July 8th, Alex Jones believes that Donald Trump is completely afraid of the.
[01:13:58]  He's a distraction.
[01:13:59]  He's a ringer.
[01:14:00]  He's a ringer for Hillary.
[01:14:02]  He's there to distract from her emails and her crimes.
[01:14:06]  To make sure that Rand Paul doesn't get in.
[01:14:08]  Yeah, globalists.
[01:14:09]  Now we'll get to a specific prediction that Alex Jones is making that did not come to pass.
[01:14:14]  But this is certainly setting the stage going into the winter, as I've told everybody for the big one.
[01:14:22]  In 20 years of broadcast episode, by the way.
[01:14:24]  I've never gotten up here like I've done the last six months and said, I feel a disturbance in the force.
[01:14:30]  The last time I felt it was in 1929.
[01:14:35]  We'll be back, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:14:37]  What?
[01:14:38]  Wait, no.
[01:14:39]  He's immortal, isn't he?
[01:14:40]  He might be.
[01:14:41]  He's a mortal.
[01:14:41]  He might be.
[01:14:42]  He's a trickster demon.
[01:14:44]  Could be.
[01:14:44]  This is Loki.
[01:14:45]  We found our Loki.
[01:14:47]  Done.
[01:14:48]  This is some fucking Neil Gaiman shit right here.
[01:14:51]  So he specifically made the claim that the big one, the big collapse, is coming this winter, which he's pushed back from summer.
[01:14:57]  Well, it was coming during the summer, but now we're into July and it hasn't happened.
[01:15:00]  Just push it back.
[01:15:01]  Yeah, it's coming this winter, and he hasn't felt this way since 1929.
[01:15:04]  He's speaking metaphorically.
[01:15:05]  I don't think he's actually immortal.
[01:15:06]  I think he's a mortal.
[01:15:07]  But do you know what that means?
[01:15:08]  That means in 2008, he didn't see it coming at all.
[01:15:11]  No, not important.
[01:15:12]  So there's that.
[01:15:13]  Not important.
[01:15:14]  Last really big collapse that happened.
[01:15:17]  Well, all right, Alex.
[01:15:18]  Well, it wasn't as big as the one in 1929, and it really wasn't as big as the one in 1874 whenever he, well, that was when he continued fighting the Civil War by himself.
[01:15:30]  Right.
[01:15:31]  Then, whenever he was actually fighting in the Revolutionary War, there was a collapse of the pound back then.
[01:15:37]  Yeah.
[01:15:38]  Then, whenever he was fighting the Gauls for Caesar, there was a collapse there.
[01:15:44]  On one episode, I know.
[01:15:46]  I am fairly certain that he is Sean Connery.
[01:15:49]  He's the Highlander.
[01:15:50]  Well, he trains the Highlander.
[01:15:52]  In one episode, I don't remember where it was, but he says that he's related to the Tudors.
[01:15:57]  And then also on another episode.
[01:15:59]  He's immortal.
[01:16:00]  On another episode, he said he's related to Nathan Bedford Forrest, the Confederate general.
[01:16:05]  Okay.
[01:16:06]  And he said he's related to the person who invented the stock market.
[01:16:13]  He's like one of those annoying kids who's like, yeah, well, I'm descended from Cleopatra.
[01:16:18]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:16:19]  What the fuck are you talking about?
[01:16:21]  All these disparate pieces.
[01:16:22]  Like, oh, no, my lineage goes back.
[01:16:24]  Yeah.
[01:16:25]  I am of kings.
[01:16:26]  Well, statistically, isn't it something like if it's eight generations back, we're all related to everybody or something along those lines?
[01:16:32]  And literally almost everybody is related to Genghis Khan.
[01:16:35]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:16:36]  Genghis Khan has like 80% of the population.
[01:16:39]  Like 5% of China's population is entirely descended from Genghis Khan.
[01:16:44]  It's more than that, I think.
[01:16:45]  Something like that.
[01:16:46]  Anyway, we're now done with July 8th.
[01:16:48]  Kind of boring, just a lot of collapse stuff that we've talked about in the past.
[01:16:51]  And now we get on to July 9th.
[01:16:55]  And July 9th, this is what I think is illustrative.
[01:16:59]  Illustrative?
[01:17:00]  Illustrative.
[01:17:01]  I think it's illustrative about Alex Jones' style as a broadcaster is that he rarely stays on the same topic for more than a day.
[01:17:09]  He goes from collapse.
[01:17:11]  He goes, Sandy Hook one day, collapse the next day, and on to July 9th.
[01:17:16]  This episode is when he debuts his line of Zubas.

=== Alex Is Furious (15:37) ===

[01:17:21]  Might as well.
[01:17:22]  This episode is all about this MTV show that.
[01:17:26]  What is fucking happening?
[01:17:29]  Well, there was a preview that came out for an MTV show called White People.
[01:17:34]  All right.
[01:17:34]  And in the show, there was a guy, I can't remember his name, but he's a reporter, used to work for the Washington Post, and he set out to make white people understand the nature of white privilege and understand systems of oppression, these sorts of things.
[01:17:55]  The trailer for the show is mostly white kids crying.
[01:18:01]  And Alex is Alex is furious about this.
[01:18:04]  Anything that makes white kids cry, I'm on board with.
[01:18:06]  He spends almost the entire episode complaining about this show.
[01:18:10]  It's complete lunacy.
[01:18:11]  But before he does, at the beginning of the episode, he's got something else stuck in his craw.
[01:18:16]  He has something else stuck up in his craw, which is the gay agenda.
[01:18:20]  Oh, well, yeah, of course.
[01:18:22]  This is Sumner Redstone.
[01:18:25]  Viacom through Nickelodeon and MTV sexualizing children.
[01:18:30]  Remember Viacom five, six years ago admitted in a corporate press release they were going to target preteens with transgender and homosexual messages.
[01:18:42]  It's pedophilia.
[01:18:44]  I mean, imagine saying, we're going to target your kids with heterosexual sex messages when they're six years old.
[01:18:50]  You'd be like, that's pedophilia.
[01:18:51]  Keep your hands off our kids.
[01:18:52]  When Calvin Klein shows, you know, 15, 16-year-olds scantily clad, they call it pedophilia.
[01:18:58]  It's creepy, but not really that.
[01:19:00]  No, wait.
[01:19:02]  But when you target five or six-year-olds and it's the gay agenda, then it's okay to teach them How to do stuff I didn't even know about until I was an adult.
[01:19:16]  I mean, it is just Twilight Zone level.
[01:19:20]  Alex Jones didn't suck a dick till he was 19, okay?
[01:19:23]  He did.
[01:19:23]  Okay, Nickelodeon.
[01:19:25]  We covered this.
[01:19:26]  Calm it down.
[01:19:26]  We covered it on a past episode.
[01:19:28]  He had sex with 150 women before he was 16.
[01:19:30]  Right, but he didn't have sex with another man till he was 19.
[01:19:34]  Fair enough.
[01:19:35]  See?
[01:19:35]  He didn't even know about that.
[01:19:37]  So the important thing there, though, is the massive disconnect and misunderstanding that he has about the idea of making queer kids feel okay.
[01:19:46]  Right.
[01:19:47]  Making people feel normal who are normal.
[01:19:50]  He doesn't understand that.
[01:19:51]  It has nothing to do with sexualizing people or sex at all.
[01:19:55]  Also, what do you mean if you send a six-year-old sex messages?
[01:20:00]  A six-year-old can turn on TV.
[01:20:02]  That's true.
[01:20:03]  There's so much sex.
[01:20:05]  There's so much sex.
[01:20:06]  But yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
[01:20:07]  You can find TV that's made for adults and find like that.
[01:20:10]  You can watch Franklin and Bash.
[01:20:12]  Yes, well, exactly.
[01:20:13]  Yeah, you're getting heterosexual sex messages all the fucking time.
[01:20:17]  From everywhere.
[01:20:17]  Alex just doesn't notice it because it doesn't matter.
[01:20:21]  Largely normal to him.
[01:20:22]  A lot of the stuff that he's decrying here is sort of the ideas of making characters who are gay or lesbian or trans.
[01:20:30]  Well, they shouldn't be.
[01:20:31]  We shouldn't see them.
[01:20:33]  Creating positive role models.
[01:20:34]  Nope, we shouldn't have positive role models.
[01:20:37]  He just doesn't feel shame.
[01:20:38]  He doesn't understand misery.
[01:20:39]  He doesn't understand that people have these identities from very young ages.
[01:20:46]  It's not something that comes up.
[01:20:48]  Well, I mean, sometimes I guess it can be.
[01:20:50]  People discover things later in life.
[01:20:52]  But a lot of the time, people, before they even understand what gender is, know that they're different or know that something doesn't match them.
[01:20:59]  Well, the stats that we talked about on a previous episode, talking about trans identity from young ages, what you pointed out was everybody who identified as trans once they were in their teen years, 100% went on to identify the same way.
[01:21:18]  Pre-teen, it was like 40% or whatever.
[01:21:20]  Something along those lines.
[01:21:21]  I don't remember the specifics.
[01:21:22]  But that is the thing.
[01:21:25]  You can know.
[01:21:26]  You can be from the get-go.
[01:21:29]  And the other thing that he doesn't understand is...
[01:21:31]  And you should be accepted for it.
[01:21:32]  You shouldn't be made to feel shame all day, every day.
[01:21:35]  Well, that's the other thing that he doesn't understand is that there's a difference between encouraging someone to do something and being okay with them doing something and being something.
[01:21:46]  Having messaging that is gay positive, trans positive, isn't to say, hey, kid, you should be trans.
[01:21:55]  Yeah, no, that's what I say every morning.
[01:21:57]  It's just to say, if you are, that's cool.
[01:22:01]  You should feel fine about it.
[01:22:02]  What I do is I go to elementary schools and I pass out transgender surgery coupons.
[01:22:09]  Sure.
[01:22:09]  You know.
[01:22:10]  They're fake.
[01:22:10]  And I'm like, hey, hey, kid, you should be a girl.
[01:22:14]  Stop it.
[01:22:15]  All joking aside.
[01:22:16]  You should be a girl.
[01:22:17]  All joking aside, on this episode, Alex legitimately pretends that that's what doctors do.
[01:22:22]  Oh, okay.
[01:22:22]  Well, then I hope he goes and fucks himself.
[01:22:24]  We'll get to that.
[01:22:26]  I hope a doctor removes his penis and then inserts it into his own asshole repeatedly.
[01:22:31]  We'll get to that actually in this next.
[01:22:34]  I want to shellac Alex Jones' balls and rub them on his face.
[01:22:39]  Here is a clip that is weird.
[01:22:42]  It is a long rant.
[01:22:44]  It has to do with race.
[01:22:45]  It has to do with trans shit.
[01:22:46]  It has to do with cult conditioning.
[01:22:49]  And it is a mess.
[01:22:50]  So he's just trying to get it all in.
[01:22:54]  Yeah, and he's angry.
[01:22:55]  What?
[01:22:56]  Is it like the end of the hour or something?
[01:22:57]  He's like, oh, I've been talking about MTV too long.
[01:23:00]  Better get back on the transphobic hatred.
[01:23:02]  This is inspired still from the MTV stuff.
[01:23:04]  Okay, okay.
[01:23:05]  But that's more race-based.
[01:23:08]  I guess that is part of this too.
[01:23:09]  Here we go.
[01:23:10]  Just listen.
[01:23:11]  How many legal alien on TV with a bunch of sappy, weak white kids with trendy socialist parents up here flogging themselves about how bad they are.
[01:23:25]  Just you ever seen those stickers where somebody's a Ford and they're peeing on a Chevy or vice versa?
[01:23:30]  I mean, that's it.
[01:23:32]  You're down on the ground and right in your face.
[01:23:35]  This is going to teach you to take it all.
[01:23:39]  Unbelievable.
[01:23:42]  And you ain't said nothing yet.
[01:23:44]  Let's go to this video clip.
[01:23:45]  Paul Watson's joining us in 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
[01:23:48]  Fuck you.
[01:23:48]  We're going to walk at the bottom of the next hour.
[01:23:50]  And then Joe Biggs has the interview in Texas doctor's offices.
[01:23:55]  You bring in your daughter and your son.
[01:23:56]  They go, man, will you talk to him alone?
[01:23:58]  Thank you.
[01:24:01]  You want to identify as another sex little girl?
[01:24:06]  What's that mean?
[01:24:07]  You ever feel like a boy?
[01:24:10]  Does your mom wear pants?
[01:24:11]  Is she like a man?
[01:24:13]  Bring the boy in now.
[01:24:15]  You want to be a little girl?
[01:24:17]  This is some old guy walks over and goes, hey, little girl.
[01:24:23]  You feel like a boy sometimes?
[01:24:26]  But see, now it's the school, so it's loving you.
[01:24:29]  Prove yourself.
[01:24:31]  Sacrifice your children to the system.
[01:24:33]  Take the shots.
[01:24:34]  Eat the GMO.
[01:24:35]  Go to McDonald's.
[01:24:36]  Drink the fluoride.
[01:24:38]  And then let the creepy doctor, who's a social warrior and proud of themselves, stopping the inequality, breaking it down with your child.
[01:24:51]  It's their child now.
[01:24:53]  We've got to break through this idea that kids belong to their parents.
[01:24:56]  No, now the kids belong to all of us.
[01:24:58]  I'm getting a headache.
[01:24:59]  Lean forward.
[01:25:00]  That's the fake out.
[01:25:01]  I can't follow like all the other cult videos you've seen.
[01:25:05]  Ah, their eyes get real saucer.
[01:25:07]  Lean forward.
[01:25:09]  A Karl Marx term.
[01:25:13]  Knowing the public can't even find their butt with both hands.
[01:25:16]  Doesn't know what Independence Day is.
[01:25:18]  Doesn't know what cult programming is.
[01:25:21]  Do you understand, folks?
[01:25:23]  This is cult programming.
[01:25:24]  That's culture.
[01:25:25]  This isn't liberal.
[01:25:26]  This is it conservative.
[01:25:27]  This is creepy.
[01:25:28]  Okay, that was pretty cult programming.
[01:25:32]  See, they have to bring down the military.
[01:25:33]  That'll be their final enemy.
[01:25:35]  The military will help bring the tyranny in, and then it will be destroyed.
[01:25:39]  Because before the rise of the machines and the merger with the elite and the life extension system.
[01:25:49]  Before that can happen, they have to take out men.
[01:25:55]  Men in the womb are selected genetically from a female prototype to be a combat mechanism and a hunting mechanism to defend the nesting areas.
[01:26:06]  It's like that in almost all mammal and bird species.
[01:26:11]  But not lizards.
[01:26:12]  This is an attack on the species.
[01:26:14]  Once they've taken the men down, which they've basically already done, the machines, the AI, all the appliances, everything, it's just over.
[01:26:25]  So just, I warned you, I tried my best.
[01:26:28]  And if you allow them to be able to get out of the way, I feel like I'm drowning in two-year-olds.
[01:26:32]  They've won.
[01:26:33]  It's a litmus test.
[01:26:34]  The gauntlet's here.
[01:26:36]  And they've got white people on MTV going, bro.
[01:26:39]  I'm sorry.
[01:26:39]  I mean, what a friend.
[01:26:40]  MTV had white people crying.
[01:26:43]  This is because MTV had white people crying.
[01:26:47]  That's sort of the story.
[01:26:48]  So now we're going into doctors want you to be whatever gender you're not.
[01:26:53]  Right.
[01:26:54]  Because you're eating GMOs, taking vaccines, McDonald's.
[01:27:00]  Then it's directly to the rise of the machines.
[01:27:02]  Well, not directly.
[01:27:03]  There's a little bit of an interstitial.
[01:27:05]  Of what?
[01:27:06]  I don't know.
[01:27:06]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:27:07]  It's directly from the rise of the machines.
[01:27:09]  Because he gets then into that Melissa Harris Perry quote about the community having responsibility for children.
[01:27:14]  Yeah, but he says, lean forward, and he's like, that's a Marx card.
[01:27:19]  Hey, buddy, how about Drain the Swamp?
[01:27:21]  Is from Mussolini?
[01:27:22]  How about that?
[01:27:23]  How about that, Alex?
[01:27:25]  Don't point that out.
[01:27:26]  But be that as it may, the thing I want to.
[01:27:28]  His idea of biology and evolution is bananas.
[01:27:32]  It's fascinating, though.
[01:27:34]  Where did he learn that?
[01:27:35]  That's the least weird part of that whole range.
[01:27:38]  I know, but I want to know more about that.
[01:27:41]  On some level, I can't.
[01:27:42]  Because everything else is insane.
[01:27:43]  Like, everything else is dismissive.
[01:27:45]  That's a theory.
[01:27:46]  Yeah.
[01:27:46]  This is him completely misunderstanding reality, like, just basic biology.
[01:27:52]  Like, he just doesn't have any clue.
[01:27:53]  Well, you start from the kernel of we were all female and then some became male in the womb.
[01:27:58]  That is a biological prototype for hunting.
[01:28:02]  Defending the nest.
[01:28:03]  Defending the nest.
[01:28:05]  Yes.
[01:28:07]  He doesn't understand that.
[01:28:08]  That happens with all mammals and birds.
[01:28:10]  Not at all.
[01:28:10]  He doesn't understand.
[01:28:11]  Not even close.
[01:28:11]  He doesn't understand that largely all of that is like a cultural construct.
[01:28:15]  It's all like, even in humans, that's not the case.
[01:28:18]  It's made up.
[01:28:18]  That is so stupid.
[01:28:20]  But at the same time, it's fascinating.
[01:28:22]  I know.
[01:28:22]  That part's fascinating.
[01:28:23]  The other stuff is just bigotry.
[01:28:25]  Yeah, what is he?
[01:28:26]  The Rise of the Machines is Terminator.
[01:28:29]  There's no other way to look at that than anything.
[01:28:33]  It's like he's describing a cartoon.
[01:28:35]  Like, that's what he just described.
[01:28:37]  He described a Felix the Cat cartoon from the 1930s.
[01:28:41]  Yeah.
[01:28:42]  Or whenever color started happening or whatever.
[01:28:47]  But god damn it.
[01:28:48]  Where did he learn that about biology?
[01:28:50]  I don't know.
[01:28:51]  Who taught him that?
[01:28:52]  That's the least.
[01:28:53]  What dentist father would be like, okay, let me tell you about how.
[01:28:58]  Let me tell you the story of the birds and the beasts.
[01:29:00]  What junior college class that he dropped out of did he learn that in?
[01:29:04]  So the other thing, though, is he's doing all this, like, hey, little girl, do you want to be a boy?
[01:29:09]  That was very creepy.
[01:29:10]  And he mentions that Joe Biggs has a report on it, and he does at the end of the episode where he interviews a lady who went into a hospital, and all she tells him is that the doctor asked her daughter, are you a girl?
[01:29:26]  That's it.
[01:29:27]  Yeah.
[01:29:27]  Which is a reasonable question to ask.
[01:29:29]  It's sort of a silly question.
[01:29:31]  I remember getting questions like that from doctors.
[01:29:34]  They ask children simple questions and stuff like that in order to create a rapport with them.
[01:29:40]  Right.
[01:29:40]  Very simple.
[01:29:41]  Because they're a stranger.
[01:29:42]  Yeah.
[01:29:43]  Ooh, how old are you?
[01:29:44]  They know how old they are.
[01:29:46]  How many times has a six-year-old come up to you and said, I'm a girl?
[01:29:50]  And you're like, okay, fucking fine.
[01:29:51]  I don't give a shit.
[01:29:52]  Die.
[01:29:53]  But that's a very strange reaction from me.
[01:29:55]  It doesn't even have to do necessarily with some sort of nefarious trans agenda.
[01:30:00]  It has to do with a doctor.
[01:30:01]  It's not a made-up transition.
[01:30:03]  Right.
[01:30:04]  But it has more to do with a doctor with probably clunky bedside manner more than anything else.
[01:30:08]  Who thinks he's a god?
[01:30:09]  Right, but that's like the moral.
[01:30:11]  Who's injecting autism-giving fluoride McDonald's slurry into your child?
[01:30:18]  But Joe Biggs does this terrible report that is just way off and really awful.
[01:30:23]  And Alex uses it to be even more awful.
[01:30:26]  He uses it to be...
[01:30:28]  But he's already...
[01:30:29]  What is.
[01:30:30]  I can't even do that voice anymore.
[01:30:31]  It's really starting to hurt my throat.
[01:30:34]  Why?
[01:30:36]  I just don't understand.
[01:30:38]  I don't understand how you can turn that into something nefarious.
[01:30:43]  What do you mean?
[01:30:44]  I mean, that idea of, well, again, one, what goal?
[01:30:50]  I guess the goal he's that it's destroying men.
[01:30:54]  And confusing everybody, creating more bulkinization.
[01:30:57]  Because now you have trans issues, whereas we just used to have race and gender and well, gender already was right.
[01:31:04]  Right, right.
[01:31:05]  It's stupid.
[01:31:06]  It's just he thinks everything that is not supportive of white heterosexual Christian identity is divide and conquer strategies.
[01:31:16]  That is it.
[01:31:17]  That's what he thinks.
[01:31:18]  Do you know what I, here's the theory that I've started putting together.
[01:31:22]  The more, like, we're not hateful creatures.
[01:31:28]  You and I?
[01:31:29]  No, I think human beings.
[01:31:31]  Okay.
[01:31:31]  Like, people talk about how the internet has divided us, and my theory is more becoming, look at how far you have to go to deny your own human empathy.
[01:31:42]  Okay.
[01:31:43]  Look at how twisted and like, look at how big this ideology has to be for him to just say, I'm freaked out by trans people because I don't mean that.
[01:31:57]  He has to have the foundation of globalists are trying to blah, In order to just hate somebody who hasn't done anything to him.
[01:32:04]  That's a good point.
[01:32:05]  Like he has a knee-jerk hatred.
[01:32:06]  But you're also not taking into account with that how much he needs cover.
[01:32:14]  He needs to protect his business industry.
[01:32:16]  And so he couldn't say those things without people being like, okay, fuck you.
[01:32:20]  God, I just wish he would come out and say, like, hey, it makes me feel uncomfortable because I don't understand it.
[01:32:27]  Yeah.
[01:32:28]  It is so far outside my small masculinity.
[01:32:30]  It threatens my belief in the world.
[01:32:33]  And I have a rigid set of beliefs that I can't be flexible about at all.
[01:32:38]  And that's something we could talk about.
[01:32:39]  It could.
[01:32:40]  Like, I would be interested in having that discussion.

=== Mocking MLK's Racism fears (13:12) ===

[01:32:42]  Like, I'm fine if you say to me, like, I get my knee-jerk reaction to trans people is revulsion.
[01:32:53]  I'm not fine with that because I think it's an okay reaction.
[01:32:57]  I'm fine with that because you're just expressing how you feel.
[01:33:01]  And you don't really, you don't really have a, if you don't have any framework for that, like I grew up in a small town.
[01:33:09]  If I just stayed in that small town forever where it's just me staring at a bunch of white people who look like me, and then I see something that is so far outside of that.
[01:33:19]  Like someone with mismatched socks.
[01:33:20]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:33:21]  Somebody that's just a freak.
[01:33:23]  Somebody that's just got a handlebar mustache.
[01:33:26]  Right, right.
[01:33:26]  Like, of course your basic tribal instinct is like, oh, that's an enemy or something along those lines.
[01:33:33]  But what you're describing is essentially why it's important for people to go to college.
[01:33:37]  It's important for people to go away to college.
[01:33:39]  It's important for people to just go other places.
[01:33:42]  Yeah, and you should have crises.
[01:33:44]  Like, it is important.
[01:33:44]  Exactly.
[01:33:45]  It's important for you to have those feelings and then be confronted with reality and grow through it.
[01:33:51]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:33:52]  Because quite frankly, I thought trans people were super weird when I was like 12 or 13.
[01:33:56]  I thought it was incredibly fucked up.
[01:33:58]  And that's because most of my context for it was listening to Loveline.
[01:34:01]  And Adam Carolla is very anti-trans.
[01:34:05]  He's super, like, it's just weirdo dudes and stuff like that.
[01:34:10]  And so that was my context for everything until I met some people who identified as trans and had conversations and watched some documentaries and looked into it a bit more.
[01:34:19]  And I had a crisis of, oh, I don't trust this Adam Carolla that I've listened to for so long.
[01:34:24]  Of course.
[01:34:25]  And you grow through it.
[01:34:26]  Exactly.
[01:34:27]  And that's what I'm saying.
[01:34:28]  If he could just admit that, then have a conversation and then just experience those things.
[01:34:34]  Just grow.
[01:34:35]  That'd be fine.
[01:34:36]  But by hiding behind all of this globalist shit, that's how he can get away with having a conversation with a trans person who is completely and utterly normal and reasonable and all of those things.
[01:34:48]  But his argument.
[01:34:50]  But because of the globalist framework, his argument would be like, oh, you are totally normal and that's fine.
[01:34:54]  It's unfortunate that they've tricked you into this.
[01:34:57]  exactly but and that's the way that he will never that's his and that's the same thing that we're all white people do hiding behind like the i don't care if you're white or black or whatever And it's like, no, you do.
[01:35:08]  We're also.
[01:35:09]  Just admit you care, and then we can deal with it.
[01:35:12]  We're also getting to, I think, why it's dangerous for people who are young to listen to Alex Jones is because if you do get this brain virus of the globalists and stuff like that into your head too early, you don't really have an escape plan.
[01:35:26]  You don't have a hatch you can get out of.
[01:35:28]  Like with Adam Carolla's bigotry, I was very able to get away from it because it's not defended by anything other than Adam Carolla's opinions.
[01:35:39]  Whereas if Adam Carolla was saying, there is an evil cabal that is making people do things because they have a vested interest in destroying masculinity, blah, blah, blah.
[01:35:49]  It would be much more difficult for me, even when confronted with reality, to get away from it.
[01:35:55]  Because there's a mythology behind it.
[01:35:56]  It's a cult.
[01:35:57]  It's a story that you can reinforce again and again and again.
[01:36:01]  And so then that also.
[01:36:03]  And let's be clear: this isn't just about trans stuff.
[01:36:05]  It's about everything that he talks about.
[01:36:06]  No, of course.
[01:36:08]  It's across the board, his philosophies.
[01:36:12]  I like this.
[01:36:13]  Even though they're not applied equally across the board.
[01:36:16]  Certainly not.
[01:36:17]  Everything's negotiable except for private property, self-defense, and don't make me feel guilt about being white.
[01:36:23]  Well, if you think about even those things, take private property out of it because it's like, okay, yeah, people own things.
[01:36:28]  But you take the Second Amendment is self-defense, and Don't Make Me Feel Weird is white nationalism.
[01:36:34]  So that is the things that he's super.
[01:36:38]  Look, this is a good conversation, but we've got to move along.
[01:36:40]  We got some more clips, and you got to get out of here before too long.
[01:36:43]  So this next clip, we get into more specific feelings that he has about this white people show.
[01:36:49]  And unfortunately, this is kind of a short clip, but it's Alex Jones being mocking about what a lot of people believe the reality about racism is.
[01:36:59]  I don't want to be called racist because there's nothing worse.
[01:37:02]  And if you are now, you lose your job, you get arrested.
[01:37:06]  I mean, what are we going to do?
[01:37:09]  There's racist everywhere.
[01:37:10]  It's worse than terrorism, Al-Qaeda.
[01:37:13]  I don't think he's coming from the genuine.
[01:37:14]  It's under the table.
[01:37:15]  No, but he's doing a mocking character so he can get out some true feelings that he has, that he is afraid of people calling him a racist, because that is, in his conception, a label that people use to take power over you.
[01:37:27]  Now, the part that I meant when I said the reality is I believe that racism is a bigger problem than terrorism.
[01:37:35]  By a billion.
[01:37:36]  Yeah, and he's doing that mocking voice to sort of discredit that opinion when there's pretty good evidence that terrorism is a very small problem compared to ingrained, deeply entrenched racist beliefs that we have.
[01:37:50]  It is because of these deeply entrenched racist beliefs that our president is actively destroying the world.
[01:37:57]  Well, not our president.
[01:37:59]  He's a fucking lunatic.
[01:38:00]  It is the entire GOP.
[01:38:01]  So I played that clip also because I wanted to get that foundation of being called a racist is the worst thing, blah, blah, blah.
[01:38:10]  Just in advance of this next clip, which I think is one of the craziest things Alex Jones has ever said.
[01:38:16]  Jose Antonio Vargas, the host of the documentary White People, is a journalist, filmmaker, an immigration activist, a globalist, born in the Philippines and raised in the United States from the age of 12.
[01:38:27]  He was part of the Washington Post team that won the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news reporting in 2008 for coverage of the Virginia Tech shootings.
[01:38:35]  He's an anti-gunner.
[01:38:38]  He wrote, produced, and directed the autobiographical 2013 documented, which CNN filmed, broadcast in 2014.
[01:38:46]  And he pushes the DREAM Act for the children legalized to the people.
[01:38:51]  Yeah.
[01:38:52]  And during the trailer, he's we'll show some of that video right now without audio, if you're a TV viewer, bugging his eyes out at the white people.
[01:38:59]  See, how does it feel to be white, huh?
[01:39:01]  And just the whole time acting super aggressive and angry.
[01:39:04]  And then they all get intimidated.
[01:39:05]  Yes, we're bad.
[01:39:06]  We're sorry.
[01:39:09]  I mean, I wish this guy would come to me because, hey, I am like Martin Luther King.
[01:39:15]  I'm proud of myself.
[01:39:17]  I bet you money.
[01:39:18]  And Martin Luther King got beat up quite a few times by racist white people.
[01:39:21]  I bet you money.
[01:39:22]  I've been attacked by more black people than Martin Luther King's been attacked by white people.
[01:39:27]  And the black people that attacked me were just like the white people that attacked him.
[01:39:31]  They were racist.
[01:39:32]  They were scum.
[01:39:33]  And they thought it was okay to attack me because of my skin color.
[01:39:37]  I'm like Martin Luther King.
[01:39:39]  This guy's a race baiter.
[01:39:41]  He's more akin to the other side of the debate.
[01:39:44]  And I'm sick of it.
[01:39:45]  And we've been given this guilt, so we'll submit to total tyranny.
[01:39:50]  You see, I'm above you race pimps and you racist and all you grand dragons of the Democratic Party and the rest of you scum.
[01:39:57]  I really do care about everybody.
[01:39:59]  I really do want to stop 52% of black people getting killed before they're born.
[01:40:03]  I really do want to stop Latin American girls being sterilized in a UN program with Gardasil, which has now been proven to jack these women up.
[01:40:12]  Because when they attack these innocent people, they're attacking me.
[01:40:15]  I take it, personal.
[01:40:17]  I care about humanity.
[01:40:18]  And I'm sick of you globalists following hardcore psych warfare programs meant to bring us down so we're all fighting with each other and they can bring the nation states down and bring in world government that's going to target everybody.
[01:40:34]  So Alex Jones is like Martin Luther King.
[01:40:37]  Dan.
[01:40:39]  Dan.
[01:40:39]  Jordan.
[01:40:44]  You had a tough time with that guy.
[01:40:46]  I did not do well with that.
[01:40:48]  I did not do well with that.
[01:40:49]  I did take the headphones off for a very long time.
[01:40:51]  I think that might have been the first time you've taken the headphones off.
[01:40:54]  It was the second.
[01:40:55]  It is the second.
[01:40:56]  Do you know why it was the second?
[01:40:57]  Do you know why I remember the last time?
[01:40:59]  Because it was very much, very similar, you son of a bitch.
[01:41:02]  It's very weird.
[01:41:04]  It's very weird.
[01:41:06]  It's almost convincing for him to say that he does care about everybody.
[01:41:12]  Well, the number twisted brain.
[01:41:15]  Well, the number of black people who have been aborted seems to keep shifting.
[01:41:19]  It's 49%.
[01:41:20]  It's 51%.
[01:41:21]  It's 52%.
[01:41:23]  I mean, it's all in that ballpark.
[01:41:25]  He does not have a straight statistic.
[01:41:28]  Of course not.
[01:41:28]  He's not quoting anything.
[01:41:29]  Clearly, the number keeps changing.
[01:41:31]  It's magic.
[01:41:32]  Also, Gardasil, there are negative side effects that can come up, but all of them are much better than cervical cancer.
[01:41:39]  Yeah, you should definitely get an HPV vaccine.
[01:41:42]  It's a necessity.
[01:41:43]  Alex likes to play this game where it's like, HPV isn't bad.
[01:41:46]  It's like, that's not the problem.
[01:41:48]  HPV in women does lead to cervical cancer often.
[01:41:50]  It's a big deal.
[01:41:51]  It doesn't really matter for dudes.
[01:41:53]  It's just warts for dudes.
[01:41:55]  It doesn't really do anything all that terrible.
[01:41:58]  But for women, it is a very big issue.
[01:42:00]  And so the idea that he pretends.
[01:42:02]  Which is why he doesn't have to care, Dan.
[01:42:04]  But he pretends that all it does is get rid of HPV, not that it really gets rid of one of the biggest causes of cervical cancer.
[01:42:13]  So him saying, even he's not being specific about it.
[01:42:17]  It jacks these women up.
[01:42:19]  It jacks them up.
[01:42:20]  What does that mean?
[01:42:20]  It makes them jacked.
[01:42:22]  Okay, get some more.
[01:42:23]  It's a direct, it's a direct competitor to super female vitality.
[01:42:28]  But you got to get off the market.
[01:42:29]  Got to get off it.
[01:42:30]  So his, I understand where you're coming from saying that it's almost convincing, but it's not because he's throwing bullshit spaghetti.
[01:42:38]  Absolutely.
[01:42:38]  No, no.
[01:42:39]  When he does, like, I do think in his mind, he believes that he cares about everybody.
[01:42:47]  But do you think that he in his mind really believes that he's been beat up as much as Martin Luther King?
[01:42:52]  Do I think he believes it?
[01:42:53]  Yeah.
[01:42:54]  Yes.
[01:42:54]  Well, that's proof that he doesn't know anything.
[01:42:57]  I don't I think he believes it.
[01:42:59]  Okay.
[01:42:59]  It's obviously not true, but I think he's convinced himself of its reality.
[01:43:04]  I would ask him if he's ever been imprisoned because he's white.
[01:43:11]  I would ask him if he's ever had people throw bombs at his house.
[01:43:15]  Well, we know he has not been imprisoned because he's white.
[01:43:19]  Yeah, a KKK member as a cop let him go.
[01:43:25]  Well, yeah, we have that evidence.
[01:43:26]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:43:28]  But the other thing, too, is like he keeps referring to these fights that he got in as a youth, but most of those are street fights.
[01:43:35]  Most of those aren't racially motivated attacks.
[01:43:38]  Whether or not they happened at all is still in question.
[01:43:40]  It's very dubious.
[01:43:41]  Yeah.
[01:43:42]  But at the same time, he seems to think that these fights that he had a part in getting into are some sort of racial oppression.
[01:43:50]  And they're not.
[01:43:51]  They're just him as a kid being obviously full of shit, obviously an asshole.
[01:43:56]  He claims he slept with 150 women before he was 16.
[01:44:00]  He was kicked out of his school for a year for fighting.
[01:44:04]  He's a guy who, when he was young, was I mean, he's embellishing everything except for maybe that being kicked out of school for a year.
[01:44:11]  But he's a guy who was like, he was a problem kid.
[01:44:15]  Yeah.
[01:44:15]  Like, it's, I don't think, I bet he did have a couple of times people called him cracker or something like that.
[01:44:21]  I would believe that.
[01:44:22]  But I don't believe that he's been targeted for being white.
[01:44:26]  Of course not.
[01:44:27]  And it's degrading for him to compare himself to Martin Luther King.
[01:44:33]  It's degrading for everybody but Nelson Mandela to compare himself to Martin Luther King.
[01:44:38]  Yeah.
[01:44:38]  Yeah.
[01:44:39]  So anyway, let's skip out of that.
[01:44:41]  Let's move along because our old friend is back.
[01:44:46]  Our old friend.
[01:44:47]  Fuck you, Alex.
[01:44:48]  Totally.
[01:44:48]  Our old friend.
[01:44:49]  Jesus fucking Christ.
[01:44:50]  Still on the July 9th episode, our old friend Larry Nichols comes back.
[01:44:55]  And it's not even, it doesn't even matter how many times he got beat up versus Martin Luther King Jr.
[01:45:00]  That's not the point of Martin Luther King Jr.
[01:45:03]  Is it how many beatings he took?
[01:45:05]  No, totally isn't.
[01:45:05]  That's not the point.
[01:45:06]  Totally is.
[01:45:07]  The point is fucking everything else.
[01:45:10]  Sure.
[01:45:13]  How do you boil down the entire civil rights movement into I think I got beat up more than Martin Luther King Jr.
[01:45:22]  That's his entire reality of the entire civil rights movement was MLK got beat up a bunch and then black people could vote.
[01:45:32]  Well, it's because that is the masculine way to look at it.
[01:45:35]  It's the like hyper toxic masculine thing.
[01:45:38]  How much do you believe in what you believe in?

=== Larry Nichols Solicits Money Hard (04:33) ===

[01:45:40]  You ready to get your ass kicked?
[01:45:42]  Man.
[01:45:43]  Oh.
[01:45:43]  So let's move on.
[01:45:45]  Let's move on.
[01:45:45]  I'm sorry.
[01:45:46]  Let's move on.
[01:45:46]  Larry Nichols is back, my man.
[01:45:49]  Okay.
[01:45:49]  Stevie Larry Nicks.
[01:45:51]  And he throws a lot of bullshit around about how, again, Alex is our only shot.
[01:45:55]  But this time, he is fucking soliciting money hard.
[01:45:59]  Okay.
[01:45:59]  He's like, Nichols's?
[01:46:01]  Yeah.
[01:46:01]  He's like, my health is not good.
[01:46:02]  I need help.
[01:46:04]  And he's just asking for money.
[01:46:06]  He spins the narrative that Chelsea is not Bill Clinton's daughter.
[01:46:11]  That's one of his big narrative.
[01:46:14]  But he drops this one.
[01:46:16]  This is our Larry Nichols moment of the day.
[01:46:19]  Alex, what's gonna have to happen, and I hate to say it, but folks, there's got to be an education campaign.
[01:46:26]  We've got to re-educate people.
[01:46:29]  We don't even know anymore if we have genes in our bodies that are connected to our founding fathers.
[01:46:35]  We've drifted so far away.
[01:46:37]  But here's what's going to come.
[01:46:39]  You've got two choices right now.
[01:46:41]  Two, believe it or not, our best friends on earth right now, Bill and Neil.
[01:46:46]  Why?
[01:46:47]  Because Obama has his eyes set on turning us into an Islamic caliphate.
[01:46:53]  And at that point, he would become the leader of Islam globally.
[01:46:58]  Now, the only people strong enough at this point to stop that from happening are the Clintons.
[01:47:05]  And then if the Clintons get in, then we're fighting communism.
[01:47:09]  I think we stand a better chance trying to fight communism than people running around with their heads being cut off because people will go into submission.
[01:47:17]  Yeah, man.
[01:47:19]  Yep.
[01:47:20]  It's so sad to see all these things that Larry Nichols believes in.
[01:47:25]  It's such a bummer.
[01:47:27]  Obama is trying to turn.
[01:47:31]  What do you even say to that?
[01:47:34]  Please.
[01:47:35]  What do you think the Denny's is closing?
[01:47:38]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:47:39]  Where do you even start with that?
[01:47:41]  Sir, sir.
[01:47:43]  You have to leave.
[01:47:44]  Obama is going to become the leader of Islam.
[01:47:48]  Worldwide.
[01:47:50]  He's trying to start a caliphate.
[01:47:52]  Is he having a stroke?
[01:47:53]  No, but this actually is in line with that interview that he did with Mother Jones that he was talking about how the Clintons are our only hope of destroying Islam because they're cold-blooded.
[01:48:04]  Right.
[01:48:04]  This makes perfect sense.
[01:48:05]  So this actually gets, but it also contradicts entirely all the other stuff that he says about how Clintons are the worst people in the world.
[01:48:12]  And if Hillary gets in, she's going to destroy the world.
[01:48:14]  She's going to turn us into, I mean, he describes it as communism here, but he describes it as complete destruction of America, other places.
[01:48:22]  So, I mean, he is an unreliable.
[01:48:25]  He may be a big fan of hyperbole.
[01:48:26]  It's entirely possible.
[01:48:28]  He needs money.
[01:48:30]  He wants to be interesting, so Alex will have him back on his show so people will send him money.
[01:48:34]  Does he just think that, like, how would Obama become the leader of Islam globally?
[01:48:40]  Just declare it.
[01:48:41]  Like, would there be a conversation?
[01:48:44]  Does he already talk with the Ayatollah regularly?
[01:48:47]  He must have.
[01:48:47]  I mean, then we're talking about how does he feel about Indonesia?
[01:48:52]  Larry Nichols knows that billions of people who are Muslim are not from the Middle East, right?
[01:49:01]  Probably not.
[01:49:01]  I don't know.
[01:49:02]  He has, like, globally.
[01:49:05]  There's tons of Chinese Muslims.
[01:49:07]  There's tons of American.
[01:49:09]  Would Obama then have to...
[01:49:13]  There's also different branches of Islam that definitely wouldn't all fall under Obama.
[01:49:18]  See, now I'm playing this out like a civilization game.
[01:49:21]  Don't do it.
[01:49:23]  Don't bring sense into this.
[01:49:26]  Okay.
[01:49:27]  Larry Nichols is an idiot.
[01:49:28]  Two hexagons to the left, then we'll be in the appropriate place to spread our religion.
[01:49:35]  I'd like to point out at this point that I haven't ignored or cut out stuff that he said about Trump.
[01:49:40]  He still is exactly in the same position he has been since July 6th.
[01:49:46]  But now we get to July 10th, and Alex Jones is out of studio.
[01:49:50]  David Knight is hosting, and it is our tradition to never listen to David Knight.
[01:49:54]  Correct.
[01:49:54]  However, we have to break it.
[01:49:55]  No.
[01:49:56]  Yeah.
[01:49:56]  No.
[01:49:57]  I accidentally listened.

=== Song of the South Ride (04:38) ===

[01:49:58]  How did you do that?
[01:49:59]  I accidentally listened to a tiny bit of this because at the beginning, David Knight says Alex Jones will be in later with a special report.
[01:50:07]  And so I scanned forward in the episode to try and find it, and I couldn't find it.
[01:50:12]  I'm not going to listen to the whole thing.
[01:50:13]  But I accidentally found this clip, and it is amazing.
[01:50:17]  David Knight is crazy.
[01:50:19]  Now, when we were on break, Joe Jennings came in and told me that he went to Disney World in the 1970s, and he said they had a Song of the South ride that then they later took out.
[01:50:31]  Tell us about it, Joe.
[01:50:32]  What was in it?
[01:50:33]  Yeah, in the 70s, you know, I was probably six or seven years old and lived in Anaheim.
[01:50:41]  And, you know, Big treat that you got when you went to Disneyland was, you know, they had all the rides, and they were rarely.
[01:50:48]  You don't need this.
[01:50:50]  It's been there for a long time.
[01:50:52]  In the smaller kids' area, they had the Song of the South Bride.
[01:50:56]  Just chalk this one up as a lost great little ride.
[01:50:59]  It had all the fun characters and all this.
[01:51:02]  The fun characters are the problem.
[01:51:04]  Racist or anything.
[01:51:06]  You just saw these fun, whimsical characters.
[01:51:09]  So the years had gone by, and we went back to Disneyland.
[01:51:13]  Are you relitigating Al Jolson, too?
[01:51:15]  What if we went there?
[01:51:17]  And it was completely changed.
[01:51:18]  The ride is song.
[01:51:19]  And like I said, Disneyland hardly ever changed their rides.
[01:51:25]  And we asked the school, you know, where's this Song of the South Bride?
[01:51:29]  Oh.
[01:51:30]  And we asked one of the Disney people, oh, we don't talk about that ride.
[01:51:34]  Yeah.
[01:51:35]  It's been taken out.
[01:51:36]  We got to take that out.
[01:51:37]  We got to take out Song of the South, although they do use the songs from it.
[01:51:41]  I thought one of the most beautiful things about it was kids sitting at the feet of the older black man, him relating these folk stories as an introduction.
[01:51:50]  Of course, it was ahead of its time in the 1940s.
[01:51:52]  They had mixed animation mixed with live action and everything.
[01:51:56]  Yeah, buddy.
[01:51:58]  No negative talk about Song of the South.
[01:52:00]  Did they have they ever seen Song of the South?
[01:52:03]  I watched it recently.
[01:52:04]  Why?
[01:52:05]  Some girl I was seeing for a little while accidentally found it, and she's like, you know, they don't let this out of the vault.
[01:52:12]  I found a copy of it.
[01:52:13]  Let's watch it.
[01:52:13]  And so we watched it.
[01:52:14]  I was like, whoa, this is worse than I remember.
[01:52:16]  Yeah, there's a fucking character called Tar Baby.
[01:52:19]  Yeah.
[01:52:19]  That's some stuff.
[01:52:20]  Yeah.
[01:52:21]  There's a reason we don't talk about it anymore.
[01:52:24]  And that old man who tells them stories is a horrible black stereotype.
[01:52:28]  Uncle Remus is insulting.
[01:52:31]  No, Uncle Remus sounds right.
[01:52:34]  Also, fuck off.
[01:52:36]  Splash Mountain is based on Song of the South.
[01:52:39]  They just took out all of the racist stuff.
[01:52:42]  Splash Mountain is based on Song of the South?
[01:52:44]  Yeah, that's originally part of the ride that was Song of the South based.
[01:52:48]  Huh.
[01:52:48]  Yeah.
[01:52:50]  I don't remember that from the original movie.
[01:52:52]  Splash Mountain?
[01:52:52]  Yeah.
[01:52:53]  I don't remember.
[01:52:54]  The original ride had like you'd go along with Brayer Rabbit, and there'd be like little things that would happen along the way, and then you'd get to Splash Mountain.
[01:53:02]  So that part is retained from the original, as I understand.
[01:53:06]  But also, you're totally right.
[01:53:08]  Let it go.
[01:53:08]  Let this one go.
[01:53:10]  Because you're not right.
[01:53:10]  You don't need this one.
[01:53:11]  You're not right.
[01:53:13]  No.
[01:53:14]  David Knight.
[01:53:14]  Yeah, you're right.
[01:53:19]  Where does that even.
[01:53:20]  Like, even the most racist people I can think of aren't going to jump on Song of the South as their kill to die on.
[01:53:26]  It's weird.
[01:53:27]  But also.
[01:53:28]  You know what I don't like about Disney?
[01:53:31]  They took down Song of the South.
[01:53:33]  How bad of a news day is it for you that you're like, I'm going to get the engineer to chime in about how Song of the South isn't a ride at Disney anymore.
[01:53:42]  And he discovered that years ago, and we were just talking about it over the break.
[01:53:46]  Yeah.
[01:53:46]  What the fuck is going on in their studio?
[01:53:48]  I have no idea.
[01:53:49]  So that's the ninth.
[01:53:51]  Now we get to the 10th.
[01:53:53]  The 10th?
[01:53:54]  It would be fun to be there for to see.
[01:53:56]  Like, I would love to be in the studio for a day and just see the fucking chaos that must go on.
[01:54:02]  I bet there's not much chaos.
[01:54:03]  I remember when Alex has to do a controlled raid.
[01:54:05]  Well, I mean, Alex is like, there have been plenty of times where they just don't know where Alex is.
[01:54:11]  Yeah, that's true.
[01:54:12]  There's got to be all kinds of weird shit being talked about.
[01:54:15]  And he's allegedly in court.
[01:54:17]  Yeah.
[01:54:18]  So I'm sorry.
[01:54:19]  That was the 10th that David Knight was hosting.
[01:54:21]  That was a Sunday.

=== July 12th: Trump Narratives Loop (13:25) ===

[01:54:22]  Right.
[01:54:22]  Or I'm sorry, that was a Friday.
[01:54:24]  That was a Friday.
[01:54:26]  And then the old.
[01:54:27]  Whatever happened to the old Song of the South at Disney.
[01:54:30]  Why?
[01:54:31]  All right.
[01:54:32]  All right, guys.
[01:54:32]  So we take.
[01:54:34]  And I thought Birth of a Nation had some good points.
[01:54:37]  It was a great ride.
[01:54:38]  It was a great ride.
[01:54:39]  So we take the 11th off because that is a Saturday, and we come back on the 12th.
[01:54:45]  And here, three of the last four clips I have for you are Trump-based.
[01:54:50]  He gets to talking a bit more about Trump at this point after July 12th.
[01:54:55]  The other clip I have involves my theory.
[01:54:59]  Okay.
[01:54:59]  My insane theory.
[01:55:01]  I'm loving your tease.
[01:55:03]  Yeah.
[01:55:03]  I'm loving it.
[01:55:04]  So let's get to this first one.
[01:55:05]  This clip is from the 12th show where he spells out some more of his feelings about Donald Trump.
[01:55:11]  Meanwhile, Donald Trump comes out, and you would think that this is the only thing happening in the universe.
[01:55:20]  We're in like week three and says a lot of criminals are coming in from all over the world and from Latin America.
[01:55:27]  Not good workers, not smart folks, not good people.
[01:55:30]  We need to stop the felons coming in.
[01:55:33]  That's like saying we need to keep drug dealers out of schoolyards.
[01:55:36]  And they just go, it's insane.
[01:55:38]  It's incredible.
[01:55:39]  It's horrible.
[01:55:40]  He's the worst person in the world to overthrow reality and common sense.
[01:55:49]  And it's perfect because Trump is a huge Hillary Clinton donor.
[01:55:53]  I don't trust him as far as I could throw him, but he's saying stuff that's true.
[01:55:57]  That is less far from the truth.
[01:55:59]  Trump will take our country back.
[01:56:01]  Trump tapping into inner anger.
[01:56:04]  Republicans, 17 contenders battle to stand out in a crowd.
[01:56:08]  And what Trump's doing is standing out by telling the truth.
[01:56:11]  Okay.
[01:56:12]  So now we're starting to see the first signs of.
[01:56:15]  But he's still saying I don't trust him.
[01:56:17]  Of course.
[01:56:18]  He doesn't trust him as far as he can throw him.
[01:56:20]  He might have some thoughts about why he can't trust him.
[01:56:22]  Why is that?
[01:56:23]  Well, remember on the last episode.
[01:56:25]  He's mob connected.
[01:56:27]  Remember how you were speculating that I was making too big a deal out of that?
[01:56:30]  Yes.
[01:56:31]  Well, I'd like you to listen to this next clip.
[01:56:33]  Does John Dew come back?
[01:56:34]  Gambling, if you want to do it, is your issue.
[01:56:36]  But Donald Trump owns a bunch of casinos.
[01:56:39]  Donald Trump's involved in a bunch of stuff.
[01:56:41]  He's basically a front man for some very hardcore people.
[01:56:44]  And he gives tons of money to the Democratic Party.
[01:56:46]  More to Democrats than Republicans in the last 30 years.
[01:56:49]  So you can bet this is all as phony as a $3 bill.
[01:56:52]  And Donald Trump, I have it from high-level sources, is a name like Trump, they don't come after you with a name like Carleone.
[01:57:04]  Don Trump will be back.
[01:57:06]  Stay with us.
[01:57:07]  I'm Alex Jones.
[01:57:08]  You want the truth?
[01:57:09]  Can you handle it?
[01:57:10]  You're going to get it.
[01:57:11]  Well.
[01:57:12]  With a name like Donald Trump, they don't come after you.
[01:57:14]  With a name like Corleone, they do.
[01:57:16]  Mm-hmm.
[01:57:17]  All right.
[01:57:18]  All right.
[01:57:20]  He has it from high-level sources.
[01:57:22]  Yeah, but he has everything from high-level sources.
[01:57:26]  I understand that, but this one bears out with reality.
[01:57:30]  This is something that people can document.
[01:57:33]  The fact that he would have this information from high-level sources, I mean, he could have it from anybody, but it is true.
[01:57:40]  That's the difference, too, between other high-level sources, weird globalists he runs into on planes.
[01:57:46]  Yeah, but it's just so weird to think that on this one, he's right.
[01:57:51]  Like, I can't conceive of that.
[01:57:53]  I can't allow myself to live in a world where everything Alex Jones says is utterly wrong, but the stuff he said about Trump before he became Trump's biggest fan is 100% accurate.
[01:58:07]  Again, we have to come back to what I was explaining on the last episode that it is the reality of this, the truth of it is he is right.
[01:58:15]  Him saying that Trump has extensive mob connections is true.
[01:58:19]  But that's irrelevant to Alex Jones' mindset.
[01:58:22]  What's relevant is that he believes that.
[01:58:25]  He's repeated it multiple times over the course of these last episodes, going further and further, spelling out how he knows it and what exactly he's saying.
[01:58:35]  That's true.
[01:58:35]  He's saying that he's a casino owner.
[01:58:37]  He's clearly connected to the mob, all this stuff.
[01:58:41]  He's shady people all around him.
[01:58:43]  Right.
[01:58:43]  That's not nothing.
[01:58:45]  Even if he was wrong, that's still the narrative that he's spinning, just like the Sandy Hook false flag stuff.
[01:58:53]  This is still his   ⁇  he's doing anti-Trump propaganda right now.
[01:58:58]  Mm-hmm.
[01:58:58]  Because he's super into Ron Paul.
[01:59:01]  Right.
[01:59:01]  And yeah.
[01:59:03]  So we move now to the last day of our investigation, July 13th.
[01:59:08]  And on this show, Alex Jones is kind of on some weird shit.
[01:59:14]  He's doing some weird shit on this episode.
[01:59:16]  Because on the last one, on the 12th, I just played those two clips.
[01:59:20]  Most of the show was about collapse narrative stuff.
[01:59:22]  Of course.
[01:59:23]  And he also is worried about censoring history.
[01:59:25]  So he's talking about the flag a bunch, the battle flag.
[01:59:28]  He also admits that he owns multiple Nazi guns, which is fun.
[01:59:32]  Sure.
[01:59:32]  But we get to July 13th.
[01:59:35]  And he has 10 copies of Song of the South.
[01:59:38]  No, David Knight does.
[01:59:39]  David Knight definitely does.
[01:59:40]  Alex Jones is very overt on this episode and very clear that he is against Russian sanctions.
[01:59:47]  Okay.
[01:59:47]  Why?
[01:59:48]  Because he doesn't think that they're the bad guys in the Ukraine situation.
[01:59:52]  Again, we've been over this.
[01:59:53]  He thinks it's the globalists.
[01:59:54]  Right.
[01:59:55]  And that they're just protecting Russian-identifying citizens in the Ukraine.
[01:59:59]  They're coming in to help them deal with the globalist invasion.
[02:00:02]  That's just such a weird thing for him to turn that into, though.
[02:00:07]  Well, like for always being pro-America, as he says he is, and for his entire like, because he's had shit.
[02:00:16]  Like when we go back to the Y2K, he's definitely got that russophobic narrative going on strong.
[02:00:22]  Very much so.
[02:00:23]  So him picking Putin in the Crimea situation seems mind-boggling to me.
[02:00:30]  Well, has he already been on RT at this point?
[02:00:33]  I don't know.
[02:00:33]  I don't think so.
[02:00:34]  But I do think that he's starting to become swayed by Russian propaganda.
[02:00:41]  And some of that will play out in this next clip.
[02:00:43]  And that's what's crazy.
[02:00:44]  The Russians aren't perfect, but at a primitive level, it's still male-driven, basically almost prehistoric.
[02:00:50]  Well, that's all I needed to know.
[02:00:51]  But super smart, super high IQs.
[02:00:53]  Yeah, they're drunk.
[02:00:54]  Yeah, they fight a lot.
[02:00:55]  Yeah, I mean, whatever.
[02:00:57]  The point is, is that Russians only wake up when they're under attack.
[02:01:01]  And so that's historically known.
[02:01:03]  And so they now have state-run TV going, the plan is to destroy our family.
[02:01:07]  Here are the documents.
[02:01:08]  The plan is to put stuff in the vaccines.
[02:01:11]  They get it because they already went through it under communism and their population went down by more than 30%.
[02:01:17]  They've already been in the jaws of this forever.
[02:01:20]  They've still got corrupt KGB people.
[02:01:22]  They've still got socialism.
[02:01:23]  They've still got problems.
[02:01:24]  They've still got vestiges of it.
[02:01:26]  But they really get what's going on.
[02:01:29]  And when you get in the darkest levels of tyranny, light is that much brighter.
[02:01:33]  So he's talking about state-run TV.
[02:01:35]  Right.
[02:01:36]  They're pushing narratives that are similar to him.
[02:01:39]  Right.
[02:01:39]  They're pushing propaganda narratives about how all of this stuff that we're doing is to stop globalists.
[02:01:47]  Right.
[02:01:48]  So it's starting to mirror him.
[02:01:49]  Who, so do you, I mean, yeah, they picked up on what he was doing.
[02:01:54]  Mm-hmm.
[02:01:54]  That's that Alexander Dugan stuff.
[02:01:56]  Yeah.
[02:01:57]  Yeah.
[02:01:57]  Huh.
[02:01:58]  I think some of that's intentional.
[02:01:59]  And then so they pick up on what he's doing.
[02:02:01]  He picks up on what they're doing.
[02:02:03]  Turns into a nice little feedback loop.
[02:02:05]  And they can both kind of bounce their, I mean, basically, they bounce ideas back and forth on each other.
[02:02:11]  Somewhat, yeah.
[02:02:13]  They trade narratives like a ping-pong ball.
[02:02:15]  I think there's a burgeoning propaganda loop that is beginning with Russian state television and Alex Jones.
[02:02:23]  Right.
[02:02:23]  And if you want to take a step further about that, it's the reason that I said that Nigel Farage was important earlier.
[02:02:30]  I believe that Alex Jones already has positive feelings about Nigel Farage, and we can't prove it 100%, but I would be very surprised if he isn't the intermediary for Roger Stone and WikiLeaks, which is obviously pushing Russian propaganda.
[02:02:48]  Of course.
[02:02:48]  I believe that once Roger Stone gets involved with Alex Jones, you take these dormant feelings that Alex Jones has towards Russian propaganda, and it becomes super amplified.
[02:02:58]  All of this connection comes together.
[02:03:00]  At the same time, if you look at it, it's so important that all the major players now aren't in play.
[02:03:07]  They aren't in the mix.
[02:03:09]  So you have Alex with these latent things.
[02:03:12]  The true Alex is the bigot, is the male identity stuff, is the racism, transformation.
[02:03:18]  The avatar of toxic male culture.
[02:03:20]  The distrust of immigrants.
[02:03:22]  Those sorts of things are true Alex.
[02:03:25]  On top of that, eventually you get Roger Stone in there.
[02:03:28]  You get Steve Pieczenik in there, who's not around at all at this point.
[02:03:32]  Steve Pieczenik isn't around, and he's the one who pitches the counter-coup narrative about how the Clintons were pulling a soft coup and we did a counter-coup against them.
[02:03:41]  He's not there at this point.
[02:03:43]  Roger Stone isn't there to pitch overly aggressive Trump stuff.
[02:03:49]  At the same time, people like Mike Cernovich aren't around.
[02:03:52]  Gavin McGinnis, those people are the cool fun trolley guys.
[02:03:58]  So all of these other elements of Alex Jones' current sphere of what he does, his propaganda, they aren't in place yet.
[02:04:08]  What we have is RT.
[02:04:10]  We have him.
[02:04:11]  We have dormancy.
[02:04:12]  And that's why he doesn't support Trump yet, I think.
[02:04:16]  I think that once these other much more active players get involved, that's when he switches.
[02:04:23]  And I know that I already said that I believe that once Roger Stone comes around, that's the switch.
[02:04:26]  That's to switch.
[02:04:27]  But I now, through him saying all these super positive things about Nigel Farage, saying really dicey things about Russian propaganda narratives about Russia, these things lead me to believe that I don't know how to spell this out exactly, but I think Roger Stone probably targeted Alex.
[02:04:52]  I think that he knew that Alex had these leanings and he knew that he could use him.
[02:04:58]  That is kind of what I think at this point.
[02:05:00]  All right.
[02:05:01]  I think that he knew that he could play.
[02:05:03]  Stone is the one pulling Alex's strings.
[02:05:05]  I think it's possible, and it certainly fits his pattern of being a dirty trickster.
[02:05:10]  Right.
[02:05:10]  It fits his pattern of opportunistic, underhanded, conservative Republican tricks that he has played throughout his career.
[02:05:19]  And then you figure Stone is the intermediary between anybody in Russia, Turkey, all of the authoritarian hard-right propaganda outlets now are coming together and creating a unified message.
[02:05:36]  Somewhat.
[02:05:36]  Like the people who are pushing Brexit really hard are creating this same propaganda right-wing feedback.
[02:05:43]  Russian TV, RT and Sputnik were very in favor of Brexit.
[02:05:47]  Everybody in Turkey.
[02:05:48]  You have the same thing going on in Saudi Arabia.
[02:05:52]  You have all of these different people and like it's easy to imagine that it's a conspiracy, but I think it might just be more along the lines of with communication across the globe becoming more or being so easy now that they can just find each other.
[02:06:10]  Yeah.
[02:06:11]  And so it's not that they're opportunistic.
[02:06:14]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:06:14]  It's not like everybody got together in a back room.
[02:06:17]  It's just like, oh, I like what you're doing.
[02:06:19]  Let's turn that into a thing that I'm doing and then so on.
[02:06:22]  And it just creates this bigger and bigger feedback loop.
[02:06:25]  But I also think that there is an awareness that nationalism is a very easily exploited tool, and you can use it to enrich yourself if you ride the wave right.
[02:06:38]  Right.
[02:06:38]  It's something that requires a scapegoat.
[02:06:41]  Globalism, great scapegoat.
[02:06:43]  Very good.
[02:06:44]  And so you have.
[02:06:44]  Jews also works.
[02:06:46]  But it doesn't make sense really for nationalistic countries to fully back each other's nationalism.
[02:06:53]  It makes no sense.
[02:06:55]  So why is it that Maureen Le Pen and Nigel Farage and all of these people keep having the same message, keep having the same admirers.
[02:07:05]  And Nigel Farage seems to run through all of them.
[02:07:08]  Yeah.
[02:07:08]  He seems to be a very common thread through all of them.
[02:07:11]  Right.
[02:07:12]  As is Roger Stone.
[02:07:14]  Well, Roger Stone threw Farage.
[02:07:16]  Right.
[02:07:17]  So I think that there's something much more nefarious going on here.
[02:07:21]  And I think Alex might not be aware of the forces that are at play.
[02:07:27]  That's sort of my feeling as of press time.
[02:07:30]  Yeah.
[02:07:31]  Because I sincerely could see this being a massive dupe on the part of Roger Stone.

=== Richard's Plant Theory (15:35) ===

[02:07:40]  Well, it's interesting to use Alex Jones in this regard because he's too dumb to bring in.
[02:07:47]  Yeah.
[02:07:48]  Like, you don't want him involved in any planning sessions or having any knowledge of any larger game going on.
[02:07:55]  It's not that he's too dumb, it's that he's so reactionary that if you reveal that hey.
[02:08:01]  He's going to reveal it.
[02:08:03]  He cannot keep a source quiet.
[02:08:04]  No.
[02:08:05]  He's going to say whatever it is you tell him.
[02:08:07]  Yeah.
[02:08:07]  So yeah, I would say Alex is our lucky idiot in this regard.
[02:08:13]  Somewhat, yeah.
[02:08:14]  Yeah.
[02:08:14]  And he has made tons of money because of it.
[02:08:16]  Of course.
[02:08:17]  And he will lose tons of money because of it as well.
[02:08:20]  Yeah.
[02:08:21]  I know that it's still very crazy for me to be saying that I think that there's something incredibly underhanded here.
[02:08:29]  You think there is a global conspiracy?
[02:08:32]  No, I don't.
[02:08:33]  I think it's a very localized conspiracy.
[02:08:35]  I think it's a small conspiracy, but the conspiracy is real.
[02:08:41]  And it is to basically destroy international bodies that do serve to stop war.
[02:08:48]  Yeah.
[02:08:50]  War is a cheap way to get rich.
[02:08:52]  It's so insane to me that Christopher Steele came out with that dossier and everyone focused on the peace stuff, but all the rest of it is coming out so hard to be true.
[02:09:03]  Everything.
[02:09:04]  Trump was secretly trying to lift sanctions as soon as he got elected, which is what everyone suspected he was going to do.
[02:09:12]  The reason that you would do that is because if they raise the sanctions, Russia can make tons of money.
[02:09:18]  There's obviously that is him secretly trying to hold up his end of the quid pro quo.
[02:09:23]  Like, it makes no sense to not see that.
[02:09:26]  And Alex isn't that dumb.
[02:09:28]  Alex is...
[02:09:31]  He's not.
[02:09:32]  Alex is that dumb so long as you provide him an explanation that better fits into what he wants to believe.
[02:09:40]  Trump is fighting your culture war for you.
[02:09:42]  Exactly.
[02:09:43]  that would probably blind him to of course any number well think about all of the shit that he's the all of the shit that he's spinning now is he's bringing back economic prosperity and all that yeah And the opposite, everything that he's saying that Trump is doing, he's not doing.
[02:10:01]  His numbers are on the rise.
[02:10:03]  And it's obvious he's not doing those things.
[02:10:05]  You know what's fun?
[02:10:06]  Even if you say that the polls are weighted, like Alex says 15%.
[02:10:11]  Trump is now at a negative 20.
[02:10:13]  Yeah.
[02:10:13]  So, you know, in terms of the rosiest outlook, he is only hated by 5% more of the population than otherwise.
[02:10:21]  Yeah.
[02:10:21]  So I know, I know, and you're not even saying this, but I know it's crazy to some extent.
[02:10:28]  I know that.
[02:10:30]  It's hard to find another thing that fits all of the players, though.
[02:10:37]  But there's obviously another scenario that, you know, there is secret information that we don't know.
[02:10:45]  There's unknown unknowns, as Rumsfeld would say.
[02:10:48]  Yeah.
[02:10:48]  So I recognize that.
[02:10:50]  It's either that or it's just one of the most unlikely coincidences that I can imagine that all of this stuff arises independently of each other.
[02:11:03]  And miraculously, Alex Jones starts hanging out with and promoting a guy who is one of Trump's close associates and former campaign managers.
[02:11:12]  At the same time, he starts having on Steve Pieczenik, who's spelling this narrative.
[02:11:18]  At the same time, he brings in a bunch of alt-right pranksters to be on his show to try and make things hip and cool.
[02:11:25]  It doesn't make sense that all of that would start happening.
[02:11:30]  I'll figure out exactly the time that these things start happening, but up till now, up till July 13th, none of those people are around and he doesn't support Trump.
[02:11:39]  No.
[02:11:40]  If I find that Roger Stone shows up and he doesn't support Trump, that'll throw a little bit of a wrench in the gears.
[02:11:45]  But I can't imagine that being the case.
[02:11:48]  Yeah, I don't know.
[02:11:49]  I think Roger Stone was on from the get-go, wasn't he?
[02:11:53]  Roger Stone was on Trump's team from the beginning.
[02:11:55]  He was his campaign manager for a little while.
[02:11:57]  Yeah, so why would Stone show up on InfoWars?
[02:12:00]  I think at this point, he's still involved in the campaign in 2015.
[02:12:04]  Yeah.
[02:12:04]  And so once he goes off the campaign, I think is when he starts working unofficially as a propagandist for him.
[02:12:11]  Right.
[02:12:12]  So I don't know.
[02:12:14]  It's really troubling to me.
[02:12:16]  Stone goes to Trump and says, I can get you InfoWars.
[02:12:19]  The fact that Alex is so dismissive and so unrealistic about what's going on with Russia leads me to believe that that is a weakness for him that was exploited.
[02:12:32]  I don't know.
[02:12:33]  We'll see.
[02:12:34]  But we got one more clip, and it's also from the July 13th episode.
[02:12:38]  He gets a caller that calls in and has a counterpoint about Trump.
[02:12:45]  He has a slightly positive argument about Trump.
[02:12:50]  And it's interesting that Alex Jones shoots him down.
[02:12:53]  So even with someone saying positive things about Trump, here's what Alex says.
[02:12:57]  This call is about five minutes long, and I just want to let it play uninterrupted because it's, I mean, it's totally evidence against him.
[02:13:08]  Okay.
[02:13:08]  It's evidence of where Alex Jones' head was.
[02:13:11]  But I want to go to your phone calls right now.
[02:13:12]  I got two people that disagree, so they go to the front of the line.
[02:13:15]  I'm going to go to Richard in Illinois, then Tom in London.
[02:13:18]  Oh, I know.
[02:13:19]  John in Texas, Walt, Bill, and others.
[02:13:21]  Richard in Illinois, you're on the air.
[02:13:23]  Go ahead.
[02:13:25]  Hey, Alex, I'm a big fan of yours.
[02:13:28]  I want to disagree about Trump, and it's only because I don't think this guy takes orders from anybody.
[02:13:37]  I'm not saying he's perfect, but you mentioned yesterday he was a ringer.
[02:13:43]  I don't think he takes orders from anybody.
[02:13:46]  My experience with him in Chicago is I've watched as he's built this god-awful building.
[02:13:53]  He put this god-awful sign on it.
[02:13:55]  He sued everybody to get this sign.
[02:13:58]  And he's a little burned.
[02:14:01]  So, anyways, what I was hoping you would do is if you think he's a ringer, why don't you invite him on the show and ask him?
[02:14:10]  We have invited Trump on the broadcast.
[02:14:13]  And Nico, go after him again, tweet at him.
[02:14:16]  Everybody tweet at Trump and tell him, come on the show.
[02:14:19]  And I've said that's my opinion.
[02:14:20]  And I've been told by Jerome Courcy, who's had a lot of conversations with Trump and others, that he suspects that that's what he's doing.
[02:14:30]  And I respect Dr. Corsi.
[02:14:31]  He's a really smart guy.
[02:14:33]  So I'm sorry, I am going to interrupt it.
[02:14:35]  Because, I mean, there, he repeats that Jerome Corsi, who knows Donald Trump, is saying that he is in as a publicity stunt and as a shill.
[02:14:43]  Also, Donald Trump does eventually come on the show.
[02:14:47]  But at this point, he's not answering Alex's requests.
[02:14:51]  So even the idea that when Trump comes on and he says, your reputation is impeccable, we're going to be talking a lot.
[02:14:57]  Clearly, if Alex had invited him on at this point, if Trump really believed that, he would have come on.
[02:15:03]  Of course.
[02:15:04]  So that part is even a lie.
[02:15:06]  Well, there's no way that Trump   ⁇  I would never believe that Trump cared. No.
[02:15:11]  Or had ever heard of InfoWars before. He probably had heard of it. Well, yeah, he probably tweeted out a link before that saying about how dumb InfoWars was. Maybe. But yeah. Going by all of Trump's tweets about Obama and how they're the exact opposite of he doesn't believe anything. So there's no belief system. But at this point, Alex is ignoring Trump.
[02:15:33]  He's dismissive of him.
[02:15:34]  And in kind, Trump is dismissive of him.
[02:15:37]  He doesn't care.
[02:15:38]  You want me to be on your show?
[02:15:39]  I'm not even going to answer your requests.
[02:15:40]  Even though he's got a certain amount of money.
[02:15:41]  Trump gives massive money to Hillary Clinton.
[02:15:43]  I can't imagine that you're a real conservative than you give to her senatorial campaign.
[02:15:49]  And what he's doing is gobbling up all the attention and then not properly defending his ideas.
[02:15:55]  The guy owns casinos.
[02:15:57]  The guy is tied in with some really shady characters.
[02:16:01]  After he did that whole birth certificate thing, he suddenly got his NBC contract renewed.
[02:16:07]  So that's my feeling on Trump.
[02:16:10]  My gut has never been wrong.
[02:16:12]  Maybe he'll have a change of heart.
[02:16:13]  Maybe I'm wrong.
[02:16:14]  Maybe a blue moon has arrived.
[02:16:17]  But again, there's a headline. Donald Trump has spent years courting Hillary Clinton and other Dems. And so that's where I stand. I mean, he's like a cartoon character. People think he's the richest guy in America. He's worth $4 billion. He's a frontman, in my view,
[02:16:32]  for some other more powerful people. Bill and Melinda Gates are worth $78 billion on record. Warren Buffett, $73 billion on record this year in Forbes. Their real wealth is in the aggregate trillions. Donald Trump says a lot of great things and things I agree with. But he's shown by his actions that he's a pretty slimy guy. And look,
[02:16:56]  I think people that own casinos are slimy. That's true. I've been around it. I've had a chance to be out to Vegas to see some fights and to be behind the scenes. Of course. And we know what's come out in the news about it. And I just, I don't even feel good being close to it. I don't lecture people about gambling. You want to do it? Go ahead. You want to be a chump? Go ahead. If you and your buddies want to gamble over a poker game, that's completely different. That's just making the game fun. I get that. So I have gambled playing poker in my life,
[02:17:27]  not high stakes or anything. But the gamblers I know, instead of being competitive in life, instead of going out on a limb in life, they go out on a limb in just somebody else's rigged game. It's a fake paradigm to come into and be screwed. And I think Trump's gambled for high stakes. It ruins a lot of lives. It's mentally ill. That's my opinion. And I think Trump is a predator for being involved in it. What do you say to that? I agree with most of that. I somewhat agree with you. Again,
[02:17:56]  my only experience never watched his show. I went to the club. This is where the clip ends. We can all go home. I had one gig. I'm telling you, the employees over there were miserable. They did not smile. You could tell that they were exhausted. I find him exhausting. But he is moving the Overton window in a direction that,
[02:18:18]  as a libertarian, as a Ron Paul, as a Rand Paul supporter, I kind of support. So it's kind of hard for me to say he's all bad when he is moving the Overton window. Now, am I being naive? I don't know. Are you wrong? Well, generally, you're not wrong. I agree with a lot of what you say. Matter of fact, best investment I ever made in my life was at Tiggy Tangerine that I have every morning. But there's something there. You are a plant,
[02:18:47]  Richard. You're a plant. I tell you, not to produce your show, but Dr. Pichin, I can't pronounce his last name, but he might be able to give a really good psychological description of what Trump is. I mean, he might be a sociopath. I don't know. Pachinik would know. But I see him moving the Overton window, and part of me says, that's a good thing. No, I hear you,
[02:19:16]  Richard. Let me move on to Tom and London. I can't really comment on your comments or I won't have time to get to calls, but I can't comment too elaborately. Donald Trump is involved with a bunch of seedy people. What do you know, Alex? He is the richest man in America. You go out and ask folks they think he is. He is a pop culture person who is involved in WWF,
[02:19:41]  and it's not like Jesse Ventura was involved and now he's serious. Trump uses the same tactics in reality. And so, yes, to you who is awake, Trump sounds good, but the media is using what he said and misrepresenting it to then discredit everyone else. And so that's what's going on. I mean,
[02:20:10]  I can take one look at Donald Trump, and I hear this voice say, danger, Will Robinson. I take one look at Rand Paul and go, that's the real deal, but they might kill him. So there we are. That clip really spells it out. Yeah. I mean, he does. He has. You yelling is unfair because he's already explained what he means. He's talking about mob shit. I know,
[02:20:39]  but I want to know names. I want to know details. Alex is never going to give that up. I want to know it all, man. What did he know? What did Alex know that we didn't know? You can find that out by Googling it now. But that's not the point. The point is I want Alex to say it. Right, That would be nice, But he has already said he's tied to the mob.
[02:20:57]  Yeah, He said that.
[02:20:59]  He said that he makes his money running a casino, which also is where they launder tons of money from Russian banks and what have you.
[02:21:08]  But he runs a casino.
[02:21:09]  People who run casinos are predators, making a false reality that exploits people who have a sickness.
[02:21:16]  That's not something that can be talked away.
[02:21:18]  He believes that one who runs a casino is a predator.
[02:21:23]  Donald Trump is a predator.
[02:21:25]  You can't take that away.
[02:21:27]  You can't be like, oh, well, I talked to Trump and he's cool or whatever.
[02:21:32]  Because he still has that history, running a casino, and you think that that is a predatory business. Right. But go away. But if we go forward in time, that's where we start to see. He did wave it away. He did wave it away with a. Right, but you can't wait to wait. I talked to Trump. It's not because he comes on my show. He's a stealth patriot. It's not because he calls. He's a stealth patriot. He's been planning this for 30 years. And so in order to be a stealth patriot,
[02:22:00]  he had to run away. He had to be the most predator. In order to fight back against these predators, he had to train himself to become the ultimate predator. He is Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Predator. I understand where you're coming from facetiously,
[02:22:16]  but it can't be. That can't work. It doesn't work. No. So even in that call, it's super fascinating that the guy is saying you should get Steve Pieczenik on. I know. That was the weirdest thing. It's the beginnings. That is the weirdest thing that he's got to be a plant. Richard's got to be a plant. It's possible. Richard's full of shit. Richard was one Richard hawked a product. Yeah. That's my first red flag. A lot of his callers do,
[02:22:40]  though. Do they? But a lot of callers to radio shows. I'm assuming they're encouraged to a lot of callers to all radio shows are fake. I'm not saying that about Alex. That's just true of almost every drive-time show. Right, of course. There are businesses that use actors and just pay them 50 bucks a pop to call into radio shows. But like, it's possible because of the plug and because of the foreshadowing of Steve Pieczenik's eventual arrival. Right. It's interesting. That's such a weird,

=== Information War Protest (14:34) ===

[02:23:08]  like. So here's what I'm saying. What a strange universe that these people live in. Very weird. Where somebody will just drop Steve Pieczenik's name in there as if that's a regular name to throw in there. Hey, you know who you should get to profile the most evil man that we can think of? Another evil idiot over here. Not any other psychologist. He could have said,
[02:23:31]  you should get a psychologist to profile. Nope. He chose Steve Pieczenik. But that's because Steve Pieczenik's involved in conspiracy worlds and stuff like that. Like he's a Sandy Hook denier and shit like that. So he would be the one that they come up with. That's not all that weird to me. This is the suicide squad. This is all of these idiots just fucking congealing like the blob. Like there's just a mass of evil propaganda. So throughout the course of this,
[02:23:58]  from July 6th to July 13th, we see no change in Alex Jones' opinion towards Donald Trump, except for him to spell out more that he's slimy and a predator. He still doesn't trust him. He's there to invalidate the truthful things that he says. He's there to make a mockery out of the very idea of these true ideas. He has that from high-level sources. Now. If we follow along the path of the caller is fake,
[02:24:28]  why would you have a like there are only a couple of different reasons to have a caller who is pro-Trump? He's not even pro-Trump. Albeit reluctantly. No, he's just. He's saying, he's like, I'm liking what he's saying. No, but he's saying is he's making, Trump is making it okay to talk about these libertarian issues. Right. Whereas before that would be seen as too far out. Right. So the Overton window idea is not that he supports Trump. It's just that because he's so crazy and out there,
[02:24:56]  he's bringing the conversation that we want to have into the sphere. So it'll make it okay for Rand Paul to say the things that we know he's the real deal about. So he's not even pro-Trump. He's just like, we can use him. Right. Kind of. Right. But as a fake caller, you're putting him there. You want that idea out there. Yeah. You want that narrative to become part of the thing that Alex talks about. But if you're doing that as a fake call,
[02:25:22]  then you don't have Alex completely repudiate it. You don't have Alex Jones say, now listen, no, he is a bad guy. He's a slimy fuck. Yeah, that's true. I don't think the call is fake. You don't think so? No. I don't necessarily think it is. I don't have any evidence because the idea that he hawked a product isn't evidence for me because people do that all the fucking time. Okay,
[02:25:41]  fair enough. I didn't know that was a regular thing for his callers to do. All of his callers take his products. Jesus. But that makes sense with this cult environment. Like, I support you, and I want to let you know how great your shit is. So even though we see no evolution necessarily in his position towards Trump, we do see minor trends in his own headspace where he's starting to see the media treats him bad, the media treats me bad. There's identification factors there. On top of that,
[02:26:10]  we see him being incredulous of Russian propaganda. We see him saying very positive things about Nigel Farage. I think if I would describe the situation right now,
[02:26:24]  this is the storm clouds gathering. Right here, we are leaving off on what I think is about to be a massive thunderstorm. And massive thunderstorms don't happen just because clouds roll in. There's pressure systems involved. And I think these little things like the arrival of Steve Pieczenik,
[02:26:43]  the arrival of Roger Stone, I think those things are going to be the necessary ingredients that come together and put a match underneath the gasoline spout that is Alex Jones' underlying idiocy based on globalism. That was a terrific metaphor. Thanks. And I think a wonderful place for us to let you know that if you'd like to follow us on Twitter,
[02:27:06]  it's at knowledge underscore fight. Yes. And if you'd like to go to our website, it's knowledgefight.com. There's a link on there to support the show. This takes a lot of time. So if you'd like to support the kind of shit we do,
[02:27:19]  we would really appreciate it. Leave a review on iTunes, please. All right. Do it. Do it. Or just subscribe on iTunes also. That would be very nice. Let other people know. Spread the word. This is one of those weird things where we were talking about this before the show. And yeah,
[02:27:38]  it doesn't seem like it's a very interesting thing for us to go back and look at this investigation. And it's an even more interesting thing for me because you're the one doing all the work. And that's my favorite part of it. But like,
[02:27:56]  this is watching the beginning of this propaganda storm. How did we get here? Yeah. It seems like we're right there at the beginning of it. How did we get to the point where legitimately the president is sending emails out to fundraise with InfoWars links? Exactly. How did we fucking get there? Right. And you can clown on Twitter about how dumb these guys are, But look at what they did.
[02:28:23]  This is something that needs to be fought, not something that we can laugh away.
[02:28:27]  These people are powerful inexplicably, because they're so fucking stupid.
[02:28:33]  There's three things that I agree with Alex Jones about.
[02:28:36]  Marijuana should be legal, Cops should not be able to take shit from you.
[02:28:41]  They shouldn't be able to steal from you.
[02:28:43]  And there is an information war.
[02:28:45]  And Trump is tied up with some shady motherfuckers.
[02:28:48]  And he's a predator.
[02:28:49]  So that's the fourth thing.
[02:28:50]  But there is absolutely information wars going on.
[02:28:54]  He has his site named perfectly.
[02:28:56]  I totally agree with all that.
[02:28:58]  And I'm not saying that we have the resources or even the ability to be the other side of the information war.
[02:29:05]  But making fun of him isn't enough.
[02:29:07]  No, We need to understand this stuff or else we're going to be suffering the consequences of it the next time around.
[02:29:14]  Absolutely.
[02:29:15]  And that's my mission.
[02:29:19]  It's so weird how scary this is.
[02:29:21]  This is why I've given up everything else in my life.
[02:29:23]  It's so weird how terrifying this is.
[02:29:25]  It is.
[02:29:26]  Like, this is such silly, dumb.
[02:29:30]  Somehow, the propaganda outlet that is being fucking referenced by the president also spent a day talking about the Song Of The South ride of Disneyland.
[02:29:42]  To be fair, Was David Knight.
[02:29:42]  This is the world we live in yeah well, it wasn't the whole show that I don't know what else, I don't care.
[02:29:48]  That's the whole show for me.
[02:29:49]  Fine, it's invalidating of the rest exactly, more more to the point, he spent 20 minutes talking about a Chick-fil-a.
[02:29:57]  Right right exactly yeah but, but that's but, that's like nobody.
[02:30:01]  Nobody else is doing like.
[02:30:02]  This is what we need to combat on a very specific, direct level, and it's very frustrating that it doesn't seem like people are really going after.
[02:30:06]  direct level, and it's very frustrating that it doesn't seem like people are really going after this.
[02:30:11]  Well, some people are enjoying it and I appreciate the people who are listening.
[02:30:11]  Well, some people are enjoying it, and I appreciate the people who are listening.
[02:30:14]  We do oh yeah no absolutely, but to be frank, we should have maybe a thousand times listeners.
[02:30:14]  We do appreciate that very much.
[02:30:15]  Oh, yeah, no, absolutely.
[02:30:16]  But to be frank, we should have maybe a thousand times the listeners we have.
[02:30:20]  A thousand times?
[02:30:21]  Yeah, probably.
[02:30:22]  I mean, this is important.
[02:30:23]  It really is.
[02:30:24]  He's destroying our world.
[02:30:26]  He literally is.
[02:30:28]  And it's not that people believe Infowars.
[02:30:30]  That's not the problem.
[02:30:32]  The problem is the...
[02:30:33]  Okay.
[02:30:34]  Larry Nichols didn't destroy political discourse, but things he did set in motion the environment where political discourse is completely destroyed.
[02:30:44]  The lies and propaganda that he was the source of about Bill Clinton has tainted the entire American political landscape for the last 20 years.
[02:30:53]  In the same way...
[02:30:55]  Alex Jones isn't directly doing these things that are legitimately going to end up fucking us over, but he has kicked the ball in motion. And as much as it's fun to be like, ah,
[02:31:07]  you didn't do that much. You're not responsible for Trump winning. He played a big role in it. He played an incredibly big role in it, even if you only take into account that he paid thousands of dollars for people to show up and soy bomb people with Bill Clinton as a rapist shirt. Stuff like that. He is indirectly responsible for Trump becoming president. Trump is responsible for getting out of climate change agreements. He's responsible for putting Jeff Sessions in control,
[02:31:36]  who's going to roll back civil rights with police forces. He's responsible for all of these things. And quite frankly, Alex Jones is indirectly responsible for a lot of that stuff by virtue of the things he did. I don't want him to be responsible for it because I like the Alex Jones who talks about Chick-fil-A billboards. I think he's an idiot,
[02:31:57]  but I like that guy. I wouldn't want to hang out with him. But I like that kind of I think it's important to have weirdos. And I don't mean weirdo necessarily in the negative. I don't think that a robust media landscape is just straight news,
[02:32:15]  just well-documented stuff. You've got to have people out there who are suggesting some of the craziest bullshit. Right. Because sometimes they are right. And sometimes you have conversations that can be opened up because of their insanity. Things that no one else would consider. And Alex Jones years ago was that. He still had a lot of bigotry in him,
[02:32:36]  and that's a big problem. But again, it's still all covered under the First Amendment. I don't think, you know, you can point the finger at him and be like, stop it. You're bad. That's not grounds for kicking him off the air. It's not grounds for arresting him. He's not doing anything illegal. He was that crazy person. And this investigation to me is very personal in some ways, Not because I identify with him, but because he's not that anymore.
[02:33:05]  He is the mouthpiece that is responsible for civil rights going away in many cases.
[02:33:14]  He is responsible for whatever woes are going to come to our climate that lead us to be siding with Syria and Nicaragua uh, against every other.
[02:33:24]  Well, Nicaragua is actually way better than everybody else too.
[02:33:26]  They've right, they've dedicated.
[02:33:28]  Yeah yeah, us in Syria, it it's nuts like I want Chick-fil-a billboard ALEX back.
[02:33:34]  Yeah, that was this sucks.
[02:33:37]  That was a it sucks.
[02:33:38]  That was a genuine, heartfelt moment of sadness.
[02:33:39]  Heartfelt moment of sadness.
[02:33:41]  Pour one out for Chick-fil-a Alex.
[02:33:41]  Pour one out for Chick-fil-a ALEX.
[02:33:44]  Chick-fil-a Alex is gonna go up with Hobo Jones, but it is.
[02:33:44]  Chick-fil-a ALEX is gonna go up with HOBO Jones, but it is.
[02:33:48]  It sucks, man.
[02:33:48]  It sucks, man.
[02:33:50]  It sucks because now we can't have that anymore.
[02:33:50]  It sucks because now we can't have that anymore.
[02:33:53]  No no, that's gone forever, but not.
[02:33:56]  There's no going back, not even in the form of Alex, everybody else.
[02:34:00]  There is no sensible, and he wasn't sensible, but there is no like conspiracy theorist.
[02:34:06]  Maybe Joe Rogan, I don't know that maybe is him now, but even he's.
[02:34:12]  He says some really fucked up stuff yeah, but like the, the Mike Cernovich is the rebel media.
[02:34:17]  Those people are all weaponized.
[02:34:19]  They're not like Alex Jones back in the day when he was just talking about chemtrails and uh, even Y2k.
[02:34:29]  Even that, that wasn't weaponized propaganda.
[02:34:32]  Mike Cernovich, rebel media, Alex Jones, these are all things that are working towards a specific goal.
[02:34:39]  That specific goal, sure, and they're working towards the same goal.
[02:34:42]  That specific goal is the destruction of liberalism.
[02:34:46]  It's the destruction of global cooperation.
[02:34:50]  I want to find a different word than globalism, because that's not what it is.
[02:34:53]  They want to destroy these institutions that allow people to work towards a better future.
[02:35:01]  Right, It seems like they're all organized in creating a new feudalism.
[02:35:06]  Like, that to me, what I hear whenever people are going to be able to do that.
[02:35:09]  Under the banner of prosperity.
[02:35:10]  Yeah, under the or nationalism.
[02:35:12]  All of that stuff.
[02:35:13]  It's all billionaires, man.
[02:35:15]  Yeah.
[02:35:15]  Like, that's what is going to...
[02:35:17]  Like, what I see from all of these things is we're destroying nations and rich-ass motherfuckers are going to...
[02:35:25]  Like, it's not Russia versus the United States.
[02:35:29]  No.
[02:35:30]  That's not the...
[02:35:30]  It's not the people.
[02:35:32]  No.
[02:35:32]  Or the climate agreement.
[02:35:34]  I mean, the Russian people try and protest.
[02:35:36]  Exactly.
[02:35:37]  Yeah.
[02:35:37]  Well, and...
[02:35:38]  Arrested.
[02:35:39]  The Saudi Arabia...
[02:35:41]  Is that...
[02:35:41]  the people from Saudi Arabia, they would absolutely protest if it weren't illegal and they would be killed for it. Yeah, Wilbur Ross coming out and being like, hey, when Trump was here, no one was protesting. That's a bad society. Yeah. All of this stuff is people. It's very,
[02:36:00]  very rich people looking to make more money. Putin doesn't really give a fuck. He doesn't really care about Russia. He doesn't really care about Trump. All he cares about is being as rich and as fucking powerful as possible. Taking back the Soviet Union. Yeah. And probably more. Yeah. If he can get it. I mean,
[02:36:20]  he just said that if Sweden joins NATO, he's going to attack them. Yeah, which, sure, man. Fucking fine. To be fair, he didn't say literally he was going to attack them, but that was the message. Right. It's like, guys, don't do it. But thankfully, Sweden's like,
[02:36:34]  we never said we were going to join. What are you talking about? I don't know. No, it's an oligarchy kind of situation that boggles my mind. I can't understand how anybody would buy into it who isn't one of those oligarchs. And I mean,
[02:36:54]  I agree. I agree. So this has been a prolonged outro. Yeah, we said goodbye. Try and make the point that we need more people listening and really paying attention to this shit. I know it's really easy. I don't think, I mean, I would like it if more people listened to us. That would be awesome because I'm self-centered, but I would like it more if just more people were paying attention to the underpinnings of all of this propaganda. I think there are some attempts to look at the stuff,
[02:37:22]  like the media matters. They try to cover right-wing extremism and what have you, but they feed into the outrage machine and all that shit. They're great, and somewhat, at least they're shining a light on some of this stuff. But I don't think it's the ointment that is needed. And I don't think we are either,

=== Rapaport Still Lives (00:23) ===

[02:37:43]  but we're fucking trying. Anyway, thank you guys. Oh, also, big news. Big news. I forgot. Last Thursday, Rapids. Good thing we did this extended outro. Otherwise, we wouldn't have gotten to it. Rapaport was on last Thursday. Yay! So we have proof. That what? Rapaport's still living. Rapaport still lives. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello,