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April 24, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#32: April 21, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened when Alex Jones called in a field report (most likely recorded during his drive into court) on the April 21st episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics covered include: Is Alex Jones a Philip K Dick expert? Is Bill O'Reilly the victim of a Globalist Plot? Can Alex make Bill O'Reilly's downfall about himself? What does Alex's lawyer think about the InfoWars branded sleep aid?

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alex jones
15:03
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dan friesen
01:02:36
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jordan holmes
35:16
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around and drink, in this instance, apple wine.
Boone's Farm Strawberry Daiquiri Apple Wine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
It did not occur to me.
I just now read that.
It can't be apple wine.
It's flavored like strawberry daiquiri.
dan friesen
This shit ain't grapes.
jordan holmes
It has to be made of a...
Strawberries, right?
dan friesen
You think it's just squeezed strawberries?
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Isn't that how you make wine in the first place?
dan friesen
It is not.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
You just have a fat man roll around in a barrel and then whatever falls out is good.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I've seen cartoons.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's how you drink.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Guys, this is not a wine review podcast, although it may transition to that at some point.
As we have less and less Alex Jones-related content to discuss.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it depends on how this trial really shakes out whether or not we will just switch to red wine.
unidentified
Hey!
jordan holmes
We're smallies!
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
We're wine wonks.
jordan holmes
The number one Alex Jones and wine podcast, but instead we just cross out Alex Jones.
dan friesen
One down.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Now we've just got to outlaw wine and we'll be completely fucked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is a show where we...
jordan holmes
Then we become just another interview podcast and nobody needs any more of those.
dan friesen
Certainly not two white dudes sitting around.
This is a show where we take a day in the life of Alex Jones and break it down critically and discuss what he's up to and deal with the lies that come out of his mouth.
But there's a twist.
jordan holmes
What's the twist?
dan friesen
The twist is that I know a shit ton about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
How about me?
How much do I know about Alex Jones?
unidentified
Zilch.
Nothing?
jordan holmes
Ah, damn it.
I must have forgotten all of it at this point.
dan friesen
I'd like to start today's show off with a little bit of a speech.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Fuck you, first of all.
jordan holmes
I love your opening speeches.
dan friesen
I love them.
As you're listening to this, today is my birthday.
So I wanted to take a moment to reflect on the fact that my life at 33...
It's not exactly what I anticipated.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
There is no part of me that would have predicted that I would be a co-host of an Alex Jones debunking podcast.
jordan holmes
That's actually my goal since I was about eight years old.
dan friesen
Since you were a wee baby.
jordan holmes
Since I was a wee lad.
dan friesen
I've had a lot of expectations of my life over the years.
Like, when I was younger, I probably thought I was going to be a professor like my dad.
When I grew up a little bit, I wanted to be an archaeologist or maybe a Greek teacher.
I wanted to teach ancient Greek because I love the language and studied it extensively in college.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Can you speak Greek?
Not really, but I can translate it.
And mostly Homeric Greek.
Homeric and Attic Greek.
jordan holmes
The older Greeks.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I'm still slightly...
jordan holmes
I'm just trying to derail this speech into some sort of Greek thing.
dan friesen
Those were things, and then I got a little bit further down the track, and I thought, you know, I'm going to be a stand-up comedian, and, you know, that was the expectation of my life for a really long time, and now we're here, and it's not a disappointment to me.
I could not be happier that this is how I spend my time.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
It's great, and I can't thank you all enough who listen.
And we're seeing huge jumps in numbers.
We're seeing massive download spikes, and it's a thrill.
It's great, and I can't thank you enough, listeners, at least in some ways validating this period of my life.
unidentified
Now, if any of you speak Greek...
jordan holmes
We are knowledgefightatgmail.com.
We now know that we got a whole new audience that we can translate this to.
dan friesen
F. Caristo for listening.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you to all the people who've stuck with us in the beginning and shared this.
You guys have been amazing.
dan friesen
It's been massive.
jordan holmes
Hi, new people.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
I'm going to get real mad, probably.
dan friesen
Now, the two further pieces of my speech are that if you want to give me a birthday present.
Feel free to.
And the thing that would be the best, the most awesome birthday present, is continuing to share the show with friends.
That would be awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're seeing word of mouth, and it makes such a big difference.
Leave a review on the iTunes, subscribe, and if you feel so inclined to give me a physical gift, I'm not gonna turn you down.
We got a Patreon.
Go ahead and do that.
In this 33rd year of my life, I want this to expand.
I want to further...
Go after right-wing propaganda because I hate it so much.
jordan holmes
It is the scourge of every conversation with an old white person.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Now, the last piece of my speech is that I'm going to introduce this as the anthem for my 33rd year on this planet.
This is what it's all about.
This is what it's all about.
jordan holmes
I have no idea what's happening.
dan friesen
This is Sasha Banks' pro wrestler's theme song.
jordan holmes
Guys, he did not warn me about this in advance.
I take no joy or pleasure in this.
unidentified
I am so sorry.
jordan holmes
I'm going to make sure this is your last 33rd person.
unidentified
I'm going to make sure this is your last 33rd person.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
But that's the anthem that's going to be going through my head this entire year.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's going to inform our...
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
I'm going to need a lot more Boone's Farm then.
dan friesen
I'm mildly hungover.
But I just wanted to say that that's it, man.
That's what it's all about.
33rd year.
Sasha Banks theme song.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I really should have probably written my points out ahead of time.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, I liked your extemporaneous speaking.
dan friesen
So anyway, the big point is thank you all so much, and let's keep it moving.
Let's keep going.
But before we get into today's content, I want to say I fucked up.
I want to thank Drew, who donated to the show in early April.
We forgot to give a shout-out, and this one's for you, man.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Welcome to the team.
jordan holmes
Welcome back.
dan friesen
Welcome to the team, policy wonk.
We'll go through and give everyone one of these.
Everyone who's donated in the past.
We'll do it one at a time.
jordan holmes
One at a time.
dan friesen
For all you long-time supporters, we appreciate it.
So, here's what's been going on on Infowars this week.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
This last week.
jordan holmes
Down to business.
dan friesen
Alex.
jordan holmes
To defeat the Huns.
dan friesen
Alex is in court, so he can't do his show.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
He is in court during the hours that the show is going on.
So, two days out of the week, David Knight hosted, and I could not listen.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
The other days, Paul Joseph Watson, who's visiting Austin at this point.
jordan holmes
Pile of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, he has been hosting and race-baiting his ass off.
Great.
jordan holmes
Hope he gets hit by a truck.
dan friesen
Two narratives that he's been spinning are completely bogus and so racist on their face that I just want to take a second without playing his voice to explain what he's been talking about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The first thing is Malcolm Nance.
Are you aware of him?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's a pundit and former...
He has an extensive experience in the intelligence world.
He is an expert on al-Qaeda and ISIS.
He's a terrorism specialist.
And he tweeted that he nominated the Trump Hotel in Istanbul to be the first target of terrorism against Trump's properties.
jordan holmes
Nominated meaning he was saying that this is the most likely thing, or nominated meaning he was like, hey Terrace, get on at it!
unidentified
Because if that was me, I would go with Mar-a-Lago, but I mean, hey, hey, hey.
dan friesen
The second version of what you're saying is what Paul Joseph Watson is arguing.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
But the reality is what he's saying is he predicts that that will be the first target, because of course.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Like the World Trade Center, we could have predicted that would be the target because it had already been the target one time before.
dan friesen
Sure, and you said, I nominate this to be the next target.
You're not saying, hey, terrorists, get at it.
What you're saying is, you know, this is the most likely...
It's clunky language.
jordan holmes
It could be an Oscar thing all over again.
Maybe they hit it, but they go, oh, sorry, we got the wrong place.
It's possible.
We want to hit this.
dan friesen
Again, Mar-a-Lago.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he...
It was clunky language, the term nominate, and he deleted the tweet, I think probably because it was messy language.
But what he was saying was very clear.
He was making a prediction.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It wasn't, but of course Paul Joseph Watson's like, this guy rhetorically is in bed with the Muslims.
And it's horrible.
jordan holmes
That scans.
dan friesen
The second thing is there was that shooter in Cleveland who went on Facebook Live and shot that old man.
unidentified
Oh, the guy who I saw killed himself.
dan friesen
Yes, he ended up a couple days later killing himself after he was on the run for a long time.
Right.
Paul Joseph Watson tweeted out a picture of a CNN headline news type thing, and it was cropped.
It was a cropped picture, and it just showed Cleveland shooter at large, considered armed and dangerous, and there was a silhouette picture, like a random placeholder avatar image.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he was...
Let me guess his narrative there.
dan friesen
Please.
jordan holmes
He was saying that CNN doesn't have the balls to publish to let everybody know that it was a black man who committed the crime.
dan friesen
You nailed it.
jordan holmes
Now, let me ask you one further question.
Was this a totally accurate and factual thing that he tweeted out?
dan friesen
No.
Because the picture was photoshopped.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
Oh, great.
Okay, so the actual picture is just bigger.
And what it is, is that with the silhouette avatar picture, and then to the right of it is a picture of the guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
He is posting just completely inaccurate things in order to race bait.
And so someone pointed this out.
He didn't delete the tweet.
He didn't apologize.
And a day later, when he was hosting the Alex Jones show, brought it up.
Why won't CNN say that this guy is black?
jordan holmes
So he can't possibly...
So he has to know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He knows this.
dan friesen
He has to, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's been pointed out to him.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
And then he still goes and fucking says it in a public sphere where people can hear him.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
People who are already on edge hoping that...
CNN or somebody like that fucks up who probably think there's a race war coming.
dan friesen
There is.
jordan holmes
Like that kind of shit.
Is that what's going on?
dan friesen
Because again, we've gone over it and according to Quantcast, the statistics are that almost...
jordan holmes
Old white men.
dan friesen
It's all old white men.
jordan holmes
Old white men.
dan friesen
And I got some weird statistics to break down later in the show that I found.
jordan holmes
The single worst demographic of human beings on this planet.
dan friesen
The easiest to scare, certainly.
So anyway, this is what Paul Joseph Watson has kind of been up to.
He's been...
Atrocious to watch.
And I gotta be honest, without the quick editing that he does in his videos that he puts out, he's now ready for primetime, baby.
He is not good at that desk.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's not there yet.
Because he relies so much on quick edits that just having him speak for ten minutes...
unidentified
Not good?
dan friesen
No personality.
No it.
He has no it.
Which is fucking fully demonstrated.
He had a time where he was on air with Leanne McAdoo.
jordan holmes
Your love of your life.
dan friesen
But who I've already said is a zero in terms of her abilities as an anchor.
And she was much more electric on screen than him.
jordan holmes
We had this conversation a while back.
What if Alex Jones finally does go down?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, what if this is the thing that does take him down?
dan friesen
I still think Paul Joseph Watson is the heir apparent.
jordan holmes
And I think that's...
I still think it's the end of Info Wars.
Alex Jones is the cult leader, and when you take the cult leader down, it's the end of the cult.
Unless it's Scientology.
dan friesen
If you're not good about how you take down that cult, you have a charismatic figure rise through the ranks and take over.
That's happened in tons of cults in the past.
When the leader dies, someone else comes up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it's not...
dan friesen
There were generations of the Branch Davidians.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Even that example out of Alex's oeuvre.
There wasn't just one guy.
The leader died, and then David Koresh came to power.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Typically, whenever a secondary leader comes, that's when things go off the rails.
That's when shit turns into, like, suicide pacts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that if Alex does end up going down and you end up with a new leader ascending, you'll just, you'll see it fall apart much quicker.
But I still think, here's what I think.
Alex Jones has done a really good job of building up individuals that fit certain demographics as his team.
So you have Owen Troyer, who's kind of like a frat boy.
Who's kind of like a cool bro.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Like, he's 27 years old.
He's kind of smarmy.
He's like, hey, man, I'm cool.
I play basketball.
Then you got...
jordan holmes
That's...
unidentified
That's pretty cool.
jordan holmes
All right, that's pretty cool.
dan friesen
Then you got Rob Dew.
jordan holmes
I know people who play basketball, too.
dan friesen
You got Rob Dew, who's there for the nerds.
Nerds can identify with Rob Dew as this kind of put-upon, ugh, kind of guy.
So you got that.
You got the fucking smoke shop of a lady, super hot Leanne McAdoo.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
For the Fox News type of thing, you know?
Because they always have their hot ladies.
jordan holmes
Hot white lady with blonde hair.
dan friesen
She's not blonde.
She's kind of a dirty brunette.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Strawberry blonde, maybe.
jordan holmes
Then InfoWars is at least more diverse than Fox News.
dan friesen
Slightly.
So then...
You got Millie Weaver, who's kind of like a young sorority girl type.
So you got that base covered, that sort of demographic.
jordan holmes
Also a clown.
dan friesen
Sometimes clown, sometimes rainbow snatch.
Then you got fucking...
You got...
I don't know why you got John Rappaport, but you got him.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
You got David Knight for the old folks.
You know, the people who are a little bit more lame.
You got Jerome Corsi for the racists.
You got all of them for the racists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, you got InfoWars for the racists.
dan friesen
You got Anthony Cumia for the people who loved Opie and Anthony.
You know?
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, you know, that sort of aggressive dude.
That aggressive young dude who's like, yeah, I'm against PC.
jordan holmes
I had no idea how many people actually work for InfoWars.
dan friesen
There's even tons more who are like behind the scenes people.
jordan holmes
That is, well, I mean, I assume they were behind the scenes people.
I assumed it wasn't just them.
Although that would be great if it was just everybody who has appeared on screen.
Also does double duty as like the boom operator.
That would be fantastic.
dan friesen
Whenever they're out on the road, Rob Dew is the cameraman.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I've seen video of him holding up iPhones for Alex and shit.
jordan holmes
Beautiful.
dan friesen
But my point is that he's basically made segments of the youth population that are covered by...
Each of his...
It's strategic.
jordan holmes
He's trying to hit all four quadrants.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what you're saying.
Unfortunately, all of his quadrants are old white men, so I'm confused as to why he thinks that's a good idea.
dan friesen
But I still think that if he were to go down, there is a conceivable...
All of them form Voltron into one capable unit.
Because they all have their own little segments.
jordan holmes
Like the Italian job whenever What's-His-Face dies.
dan friesen
Statham?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Mark Wahlberg?
jordan holmes
No.
Sutherland.
At the very beginning.
Sutherland dies, and then Mark Wahlberg...
dan friesen
Kiefer?
jordan holmes
No, Donald.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Why are we talking about this?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Let's get to the business at hand.
jordan holmes
Anyways, Boone's Farm, strawberry daiquiri.
dan friesen
My point is that...
I think they'll be fine.
And that PJW sucks.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So we're not going to be talking about and covering PJW any further than we already have.
What we are going to be talking about is the fact that Alex Jones, possibly against his lawyer's wishes, Has been dispatching from the road, as it were.
I think he's shooting videos in the courthouse.
In breaks.
God.
Damn it.
There are videos that he's shooting in front of what appears to be an entire wall of legal books.
Like, I would describe it.
jordan holmes
What is he doing?
dan friesen
Because all these books match.
jordan holmes
It's all the same book?
dan friesen
I'll put a picture of this up on Twitter, but it legitimately looks like a thousand-part encyclopedia.
Like, it's just, you know, all the books are like A through B, B through C. That's what it looks like.
jordan holmes
If it is actually his place, though, I bet those are all glued there and you cannot pull them out.
unidentified
Of course, it's a facade of his whole life.
He's never read it.
dan friesen
He's read one.
unidentified
We know that.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's right.
That's right.
dan friesen
He skimmed it.
I can't imagine that room being in his house.
Yeah, so he's been recording things about how nuclear war with North Korea is coming, and all this shit, and I don't care to talk about that, because as we've learned this week, those fighter boats weren't even going there.
jordan holmes
They were going the wrong way!
Not the wrong way, they were never intended to go there.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
So what is happening?
What are we doing?
dan friesen
And South Korea has said, we will not trust Trump in the future, because...
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
Well, their entire national security is kind of dependent on our cooperation.
So if he's lying about things that are important to their national security, why the fuck should they trust him?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's bad.
jordan holmes
They should have seen that coming.
That's on them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's on them.
dan friesen
You can't...
unidentified
With Trump, you don't even get fool me once.
dan friesen
To quote the band...
jordan holmes
You've already been fooled.
The fact that Trump is even alive, you've already gotten fooled once.
dan friesen
So we're not going to be talking about those ones either, because it's just like, I don't even fucking care.
jordan holmes
North Korea.
dan friesen
It's all stupid.
jordan holmes
They're taking my kids.
dan friesen
I think that the more interesting thing is a video that came out on Friday, and is what we'll be discussing.
This aired on...
On the Alex Jones Show, Paul Joseph Watson threw to it and came back after it.
This video came out on Thursday.
And keep in mind that on...
I'm sorry, this was on Friday.
And on Thursday, Alex had put out a statement that was, please respect my privacy and my family's privacy.
I'm not going to be talking to the press.
That was on Thursday.
This video was on Friday.
jordan holmes
So...
He is now talking to the press, basically.
dan friesen
If you consider Infowars and PJW, the press, yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
So this video is...
jordan holmes
Well, those are just his buds.
dan friesen
This video is ostensibly about Bill O 'Reilly.
jordan holmes
Ah, the old usage of the word ostensibly.
Always a good sign that we're going to stay on target.
dan friesen
The reason that I say ostensibly is because it really feels like he's working through some stuff.
And he's using Bill O 'Reilly as an excuse, too.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We'll see.
Anyway, here's the introduction of the premise.
Here we go.
alex jones
I haven't commented yet on Bill O 'Reilly being let go from Fox after 15 years at the top of the cable news cycle with up to 5 million viewers a night.
jordan holmes
I've been on the air for 20 years, so who the fuck cares about this Bill O 'Reilly asshole?
dan friesen
And I have 70 billion listeners.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
alex jones
Fox News.
dan friesen
So, at this point, we don't really know which direction this is going to go.
Because it sounds...
jordan holmes
It could go either way!
It could be like, how dare they take Bill O 'Reilly off the air!
dan friesen
Yep, or it could be about time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who knows?
I love the mystery of it.
Like, I legitimately...
When I was listening to this, I was like, God damn it, I'm stymied.
I don't know which way this is going to break.
I should have known.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah, I should have known.
Anyway, here we go.
alex jones
Bill O 'Reilly is an obviously very complex character, very, very intelligent man.
I remember seeing him on Extra and shows like that back in the 1980s.
jordan holmes
This is going!
dan friesen
He's a complicated figure.
Also, I'd like to point out that Bill O 'Reilly, according to his IMDB, never appeared on Extra until 2015.
So, I think what he meant was Inside Edition or one of those junk magazine shows.
jordan holmes
He was there, though.
He was somewhere that you could see him.
dan friesen
He was on some sort of pulp TV nonsense at some point.
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
If only it stayed.
dan friesen
He wasn't on Extra.
Anyway.
alex jones
Early 1990s.
Doing pieces on the JFK assassination and the government shipping narcotics into the United States.
He was once pretty much a proto-Alex Jones.
He was a forerunner of investigative modern journalism and the internet world, kind of a mad drudge, in some respects.
He was also famous for saying, F it, do it live.
jordan holmes
Yes, those are his two main accomplishments.
That is it for us today, and we will leave you with a...
unidentified
I can't do it.
jordan holmes
He's playing the recording?
unidentified
We'll do it live!
We'll do it live!
dan friesen
But he conveniently doesn't include the part where he starts screaming obscenities.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's a family show!
dan friesen
To play us out.
What does that mean?
Like the part where it's clear that Bill O 'Reilly is an asshole.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
He doesn't understand a sentence that's very easy to understand.
And so that's what threw him into a rage.
He's a rage-filled man.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But you pointed out very nicely that it's like, okay, he was on TV in the 80s talking about the JFK assassination, and then he screamed in this video.
That's it.
jordan holmes
Well, he was a proto-Infowars.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
If it weren't for, well, you know.
It was nice that Bill O 'Reilly started doing it, but we all know that Alex Jones was gonna do it no matter what, and he was gonna be the best at it.
dan friesen
And if he didn't get cucked out by himself, probably.
He sold out.
He's gonna go on to say that Bill O 'Reilly sold out and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But yeah, at this point, we're still not sure which way the ball is gonna break.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Are we fans?
dan friesen
I'm not.
Although, I will say that in this next clip...
Alex does introduce something that is a little bit unfair.
So I'll deal with that in a second.
jordan holmes
Oh no, we're being unfair to the guy who sexually harassed women for the past 30 years?
alex jones
Famous when he had a radio talk show that failed for having his security team with caller ID, whether it was in Florida or New York, actually in some cases reportedly fly to go to another state to go to the door and knock on it and threaten.
callers that had disagreed with him or made a point he didn't like.
That is just crazy.
I remember him threatening callers on air.
We should probably look online trying to find some of those.
Yeah.
unidentified
So the guy was a consummate bully.
dan friesen
I mean, there are plenty of instances you can find of Alex yelling at callers, too.
jordan holmes
It takes one.
To no one.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Is this going to turn into Alex Jones criticizing Bill O 'Reilly for everything Alex Jones does?
dan friesen
Like I said, I think he's working through some stuff.
jordan holmes
He's just projecting...
I mean, not projecting.
He's looking at, what, his own future?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
If he has a future, eventually it will catch up.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, there are some allegations of some...
You know, we don't...
Shouldn't be covering stuff like this.
But there are some allegations that are coming out in the court case that, if true, are real bad.
jordan holmes
You think he laid a hand on your Leanne McAdoo?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
There it is.
There it is.
This is why we're truly angry at Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Anyway, he's up there saying that Bill O 'Reilly had his security fly to caller's houses and knock on the door.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Not true.
jordan holmes
Not true?
dan friesen
No.
But I found...
jordan holmes
It seems like it's a very plausible thing that Bill O 'Reilly would do, actually.
dan friesen
I found the clip on Media Matters.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's a giant pile of shit.
It would not surprise me if he was also a rich pile of shit.
And didn't he do that fucking thing where he stalk...
No, he had the cops fucking stalk his ex-wife for him.
dan friesen
I don't know about that, but probably I believe it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So why not?
Why wouldn't he send a security detail to a random caller's house who apparently gave him their address?
dan friesen
Well, actually, like I said, like I was saying, I found on Media Matters they have the audio of what Alex is talking about from Bill O 'Reilly's show, which I will play now.
unidentified
Oh!
Orlando, Florida.
Mike, go.
Hey, Bill.
I appreciate you taking my call.
I like to listen to you during the day.
I think Keith Olbermann showed.
There you go.
Mike is...
He's a gone guy.
You know, we have your phone numbers, by the way.
So if you're listening, Mike, we have your phone number, and we're going to turn it over to Fox Security, and you'll be getting a little visit.
Maybe Mike is from the mothership.
No, maybe Mike's going to get in big trouble, because we're not going to play around.
When you call us, ladies and gentlemen, just so you know, we do have your phone number.
And if you say anything untoward, obscene, or anything like that, Fox Security, then we'll contact your local authorities.
And you will be held accountable.
Fair?
That's fair.
jordan holmes
What the fuck are you talking about?
dan friesen
See, this is what the difficulty is.
You notice that it just cut, and then he went to, he's a gone guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't understand why he's a gone guy.
dan friesen
Here's why.
Whenever you're doing live radio, there's a seven-second delay.
jordan holmes
Oh, so he probably said some shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and they have that there because the FCC will fine them if someone swears on air or something like that.
jordan holmes
That's the Janet Jackson tit rule.
dan friesen
Right, but it's always been in place in radio.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I remember when I was listening to Loveline when I was younger, they would have...
That's pretty great.
That is a thing that can happen.
jordan holmes
That's pretty great.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
But the problem with that is that guy could have just said, fuck you, or something like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Or he could have threatened Bill.
dan friesen
We don't know that.
Right.
unidentified
So the idea that he's saying...
dan friesen
I don't agree with your position, I'm gonna send security to you, is not fair.
unidentified
No, he's...
dan friesen
We don't have enough information.
jordan holmes
He's having Fox Security call the local authorities for somebody swearing at him on air.
dan friesen
But that might not be the situation.
The guy might have said, I'm going to kill you, or something like that.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but that's great radio.
You don't cut that out.
dan friesen
I think you do.
I don't know.
I mean, it is compelling.
jordan holmes
It's great radio.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
How many times has Howard Stern been threatened with death on air?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't really listen to Stern.
jordan holmes
Me neither, but I'm guessing a bunch.
At least twice.
dan friesen
But that's why Stern's a great broadcaster, and O'Reilly's radio show failed, as Alex Jones has told us.
jordan holmes
I think the radio factor has been on for decades.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Possibly.
Also, uh...
jordan holmes
Didn't we actually do a rundown of who makes the most money from radio and wasn't O 'Reilly up there?
dan friesen
Um, I know that...
jordan holmes
Hannity was up there because he's a giant fuckface who should get hit by a truck.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, he had a huge audience whenever he was on, but yeah, now it's, I mean, the two...
We'll get into the specifics of the statistics when he brings up another lie later, but, um...
It's interesting, because at this point, it is still, he's painting this picture of, like, well, he's a complex guy, but also, he just refuses to address the fact that he's getting fired for sexually harassing tons of women.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, you wouldn't want to, you wouldn't, look, Alex wouldn't want to put out there that he's against sexual harassment.
That's a dangerous position to take in Alex Jones' world.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I think so, but that leads us to this next clip where...
He gets mad at Bill Reilly.
jordan holmes
Can you say pussy on the radio?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think you can.
jordan holmes
But if you called Alex Jones a pussy on the radio, he would probably cut it out, right?
dan friesen
Well, he'd hang up on you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but would he leave it in there?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, on the internet broadcast, probably.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
He keeps in so much shit he shouldn't.
So, I mean, I don't know why.
jordan holmes
So much incriminating shit.
dan friesen
Legitimately, the only thing that gets cut is his karaoke.
That's the only thing I- God damn it!
jordan holmes
We need it!
dan friesen
I know.
unidentified
Fuck it!
jordan holmes
Let's do it live!
dan friesen
Yeah, seriously.
Donate to our Patreon for my birthday present, and we'll be able to get Alex Jones' karaoke.
Anyway, in this next clip, to obfuscate from the fact that there's sexual harassment going on, and that's the real problem, he says this.
alex jones
And he also would do stuff like play a clip of me yelling about some police corruption, turn my face red and say, coming up, we explore sexual predators against women.
dan friesen
No, you think that's what it's going to go to, but it's not.
unidentified
But that's a perfect spot to get into it, right?
jordan holmes
Just the fact that Bill O 'Reilly says they're going to be researching sexual predators against women is great.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So fucking hypocritical.
dan friesen
It's very easy to research yourself.
jordan holmes
It's the anti-gay conservative who winds up caught with a rent boy.
dan friesen
The log cabin Republican?
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
That's not even fair, though.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Log cabin Republicans are just regular...
dan friesen
I thought they were just gay Republicans.
Okay, yeah, but they're...
Never mind.
I misused terms.
I apologize.
Yeah, yeah, basically.
But here's the...
So Alex has spinned this narrative before that O 'Reilly...
Used an image of him.
We talked about it in a past episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That he said, like, Alex Jones, and then had his picture up there, and then said, we're gonna explore pedophiles.
jordan holmes
Which could be a veiled, like, hey, check this out, that's pretty funny.
Or it could have just been a timing thing.
dan friesen
You know what it was?
It was neither.
Because it didn't happen.
Alex...
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Alex plays what he's talking about after...
What he just said here.
He plays the clip from The O 'Reilly Factor, and I'll play it for you right now.
He never mentions sexual harassment.
He never mentions sex crimes or pedophilia at all.
Here, listen.
Alex just...
jordan holmes
He just made that up?
dan friesen
He proves that he's a liar in real time right here.
So here we go.
unidentified
They breathe kind of fast because they're too dumb.
You know what it's like to go to sleep every night knowing you work for a bunch of psychotic killers and you bastards are probably going to end up killing me one day!
Psycho killer.
Now Facebook is apologizing for allowing it worldwide.
But can anything be done to stop the hatred?
Which is directly linked into the IRS Tea Party scandal.
We'll have a factor investigation.
alex jones
Well, no one's ever said that about me.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
That had nothing to do with...
jordan holmes
That had nothing to do with it!
dan friesen
It had some sort of things to do with tax fraud, tax scams, the Tea Party, Facebook censoring stuff.
It had nothing to do with the thing that Alex claims, like he's so mad about.
I didn't even realize that because I never looked into it because I don't want to go...
Dig through fucking O 'Reilly clips.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I would never want to do that.
dan friesen
So I never looked into it, but we should have known.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
That's our fault.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We should have just guessed he was lying.
dan friesen
Whenever you take anything Alex says.
jordan holmes
Our default should be a lie instead of being like, well, although that does sound reasonable.
That does sound like some shit that O 'Reilly would do if he was being a dick about it.
dan friesen
Right, or if there was just that janky timing.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But it turns out it's just completely in Alex's head.
It's just 100% in his head.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Now, you could make an argument that the thing...
jordan holmes
He's a lot like O 'Reilly in that he's a very complicated man, but very unlike O 'Reilly, or perhaps very much like O 'Reilly in that they're both fucking stupid.
dan friesen
Yep, it is unfortunate.
jordan holmes
And evil.
dan friesen
It is unfortunate that we keep coming back to this, that we have a joker that we're up against, but he is an idiot.
Like, if Joker was just really dumb and yelled a lot, that's basically...
jordan holmes
Like, in the Dark Knight, all of those complicated plans are just like, oh, shit, I got foiled again.
dan friesen
If Batman and Robin just had a podcast about the Joker, that's the situation we're in right now.
jordan holmes
So...
So Rappaport's here, too?
He's hiding in the bushes, actually.
dan friesen
Although, update, he was on on Thursday, Rappaport was on on Thursday, and picture's still not up.
jordan holmes
Picture's still not up.
dan friesen
Still not up.
Also, he has still not learned about us, unfortunately, and his report was garbage.
jordan holmes
That would be fun if our listeners, like, we don't have any of those rabid alt-right tweeters who are threatening people.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
We just have nice people who are like, John, just hang the picture up.
dan friesen
I encourage you.
jordan holmes
Just do it.
dan friesen
Okay, now I'm changing my birthday wish.
jordan holmes
We need to get this picture hung up!
dan friesen
Everyone tweet at John Rappaport.
His Twitter handle is at John Rappaport.
Just ask him about the picture.
jordan holmes
Is it a good picture?
Is it your favorite picture?
Where did the picture come from?
dan friesen
It's gotta be, like, in the middle.
Because it's not hung up, which you would do with a picture you love, but it's not thrown away like you would do with a picture that you have no use for.
jordan holmes
It probably has some complex memories attached to it.
Like, that was his second wife's first picture that she ever painted?
dan friesen
As far as I can tell, he's been married to the same lady for years and years, my friend.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I'm gonna guess secret family.
I'm gonna go with secret family.
dan friesen
Hey, don't...
jordan holmes
Hey, he goes on Skype to see his other children.
That's...
dan friesen
The Infowars audience is his children.
He tries to heal the babies and tell them not to get vaccines.
Don't go to college because it's a brainwashing camp.
jordan holmes
Not necessarily wrong on that one.
dan friesen
Not necessarily right.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
So this next clip, we finally get into the fact that Bill O 'Reilly is a sexual harasser, which has taken a little while, but we're there.
alex jones
No one's ever said that about me.
So again, he was projecting on that.
Yours truly, Alex Jones.
Well, he himself.
Has settled cases on, not where he put out advances towards women and then they, you know, rebuffed it and stopped, but where he pressured people under him over and over and over and over and over and over again to have sex with him.
And of course they refused him, and then he would reportedly demote them or have them transferred.
Roger Ailes basically encouraged all of this, and he's been let go with the same reason.
Now, that said...
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
I love that little throwaway bit there, where it's like, and of course they rebuffed him.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
If I had done that, never would they have rebuffed me!
dan friesen
That's because he's the symbol of masculinity.
jordan holmes
He's the symbol of, you know...
Look, are you a cheerleader?
He's gonna fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Are you a punk rock chick?
dan friesen
Doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Gonna fuck you.
Doesn't matter.
dan friesen
As long as the girls have a spring in their step.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
As he put it on our last episode.
So, I mean, I thank you, Alex, on this fifth clip of the episode, finally getting into the fact that Bill O 'Reilly is a sexual harasser.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
At least.
Now, the rest of this clip, or the rest of these clips entirely for the rest of the episode, are essentially him...
Alex then going on to muddy the waters and claiming that, first of all, there's other people who are worse.
jordan holmes
Is this a globalist plot?
dan friesen
You got it.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Globalists are in play.
jordan holmes
We haven't seen enough globalists, like, full-on globalist plots yet.
dan friesen
Yep, this is part of trying to take down the patriots.
But first, before he gets to that and spells out that narrative, he has to get to, like, really being like, alright, Bill's bad, but...
What about these other people?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he has to play that.
jordan holmes
Minimize those crimes.
dan friesen
Well, then it is also this game, the whataboutism that people play that is like, you know, the biggest example is what about those emails?
unidentified
What about Hillary's emails?
dan friesen
What about what Obama has done?
And it's like, well, we can have that conversation, certainly.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But it's not really going to take away my hatred of Trump.
You know, like, just saying that...
You know, hey, Obama bombed people too.
Yes, absolutely.
jordan holmes
We were against that then.
dan friesen
We were, and we still are.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we're ready to have that conversation.
jordan holmes
And if Obama is still bombing people, let me tell you something.
dan friesen
From his bunker down the street from the White House?
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something, Obama.
You better stop bombing those people.
dan friesen
Yeah, because that's...
You're just a citizen now.
You shouldn't be bombing people.
jordan holmes
He's a citizen, but he's still got bombs.
dan friesen
He's got the command bunker.
jordan holmes
Did you know that when you...
dan friesen
He's got the George Soros-funded command bunker.
jordan holmes
If you make it through two terms as president, they give you ten free bombs.
dan friesen
That's...
unidentified
I think...
jordan holmes
You can pick when and where you want to use them.
That's just a fact.
dan friesen
I think that's a good system.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
I think that's a nice reward.
That's a golden parachute, but, you know, it's a bomb.
dan friesen
But it's also kind of like, you know, methadone treatment.
You gotta wean someone off.
You can't just have them come down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, how can you just go from bombing to not bombing?
dan friesen
Exactly.
You need a transition.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You gotta wind down the bombs.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is the clip where he's woodabouting.
alex jones
Now, that said, Roger Ailes and Bill O 'Reilly are doing the same garbage that Democrats...
In Hollywood are even more famous for, but they're getting child actors, girls and boys to have sex with them.
That's all coming out over and over again.
And that all gets covered up.
So all I'm saying is, let's prosecute Edward Snowden for breaking the law, leaking secret documents.
After you prosecute our own government and all these corporations for doing things 10,000 times literally worse.
jordan holmes
I agree.
alex jones
And then you'll never get around to Snowden because he was actually exposing criminal activity.
jordan holmes
I agree.
alex jones
So maybe he shouldn't be charged.
The point is, letter of the law, spirit of the law.
You can't be violating the letter and the spirit many, many times worse than somebody else.
And then have the very same system sit in judgment.
unidentified
See, that's not how the law works.
dan friesen
But also, you shouldn't have said you agreed, because, first of all, that's a clunky analogy, the Snowden example.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's why I agree with it.
Because he didn't know what he was trying to say.
dan friesen
No, and I don't think he understands what the difference between the letter and the spirit of the law is.
I think he's just using terms he's heard before.
You know, like...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like that idea.
Like, you can't violate both the letter and the spirit.
You gotta pick one!
dan friesen
Well, the letter of the law is, you know, a literal interpretation of things.
Like, a kid steals a piece of gum from the store, you lock him up.
That sort of thing.
And the spirit of the law is, you know, figuring out what the laws are made for.
What kind of behaviors they are there to...
to see, things you'd not like to see, and then applying your legal strategy to enforce those things.
When you realize that locking up a kid for stealing a piece of gum or something like that is going to derail their life and it's going to create more issues, the spirit of the law would say, "No.
Let that kid go with a warning.
jordan holmes
Well, because that's not why the law is there.
The law isn't there to protect your 45-cent piece of gum.
Is that how much gum costs?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I'm out of the gum game.
jordan holmes
Look, you're 33. Tell me about what it was like when you were younger.
dan friesen
Back when I was a boy, you go down to the corner store, you get a piece of gum and a cup of coffee for a nickel.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You get a set?
Gum and a coffee, please.
dan friesen
Get a sarsaparilli.
Go down there.
jordan holmes
Get a phosphate.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
Oh, there's this place in Missouri.
Who cares?
Anyway.
There was a place called Arrow Rock that was like a fake old-timey community that they'd take students to on field trips and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it sticks out in my mind because they had an old-time general store.
And you could buy, like, really old...
Candy.
Not like stale.
jordan holmes
No, clearly it's been there since the 40s.
dan friesen
Old-fashioned types of candy, and it was crazy.
When I was like 10, I was like, this is the coolest thing ever.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a specialty candy store.
dan friesen
Yeah, I really enjoyed it, but listen.
My point is, Alex does not understand what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And like I said before we played that clip, yeah, I mean, there is a problem.
With abuse of children in Hollywood, clearly.
There are stories that keep coming out.
jordan holmes
We've had plenty of those stories, and they should be prosecuted.
dan friesen
And there's lives that have been ruined.
The Corys, for example.
There's just over and over again, you see it.
And yeah, again, we're willing to have that conversation.
We're listening.
We're hip.
jordan holmes
We would very much like them to be prosecuted as well.
But just because they're not being prosecuted does not mean that Bill O 'Reilly then does...
Like, there's not, like, a waiting list on top-down crimes, obviously, because we're apparently going from the bottom up.
Let's get as many poor people as fucking possible.
Thank God we finally got Bill O 'Reilly out of there.
I just wish he would fucking go to jail, because this is fucking insane!
dan friesen
Well, Alex Jones seems to do this thing where he's like, if every problem isn't solved, why are we solving one?
And that is sort of a really bad way to go about life.
You can't get anything done like that.
jordan holmes
No, it's a defeatist argument.
dan friesen
People in productivity circles would explain to you that you have to have actionable goals, and you have to set plans that you can actually build towards.
If you just say, oh, we've got to solve everything, you're just going to be overwhelmed by the task in front of you, you're never going to get even the first smallest thing done, which is get Bill O'Reilly fucking fired on Fox News so he can't do it.
Yeah.
So...
It's really frustrating, because, I mean, on the one level he's dumb, but on the other level he's actually advocating things that are, like, just bad, and then beyond that, they're not good ways to live.
It's just unwise.
Set goals and work towards them.
Little steps.
That's the way to go.
Anyway, here's the clip where he starts to get into the conspiracy angle, and it's dumb.
alex jones
So this is a part of a purge at Fox by Rupert Murdoch's sons that are admittedly saying this in the news.
I was the first to break it during the RNC because I went to the Ritz-Carlton in Cleveland and met for several hours with some of the top Fox people and got the intel, and it all bared out to be true.
But there was a coup in Fox.
Megyn Kelly was meant to kind of be the flipping of them from conservative Americana, at least light, or what they posed to be the synthetic version that they used to control the conservative movement, into a whole leftist kind of globalist conservatoid synthetic system even more than what it had been.
So a true counterfeit.
dan friesen
So this goes back to our third episode.
jordan holmes
Conservatoid.
dan friesen
That's a dumb non-word, but hear me out on this.
This goes back to our third episode.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah?
dan friesen
The secret of 2017.
jordan holmes
That's right!
What is it?
dan friesen
We still don't know.
jordan holmes
Do you know what we know now is the secret of 2017 is a lot of people are going to lose their jobs.
dan friesen
The secret of 2017 was Alex crying about wanting to live in a farmhouse and all this shit and Megyn Kelly is awful.
That was the secret of 2017.
Alex can't possibly have known how the first four months of this year were going to shake out.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I saw someone, I don't remember, I think it might have been W. Kamau Bell.
Someone tweeted, a list of people whose year is not going how they expected.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And one of them was Alex.
I was like, absolutely.
He did not see this shit coming.
jordan holmes
No.
He missed the secret of 2017.
dan friesen
For someone who has so many high-level fake sources and what have you, if they were real, you would think he would see...
Any of these blows coming before they happened.
And he hasn't.
jordan holmes
He has not seen that one.
dan friesen
I think it's appropriate now for us to revisit a clip that we played in the Secret of 2017 episode because it's relevant to what he's talking about.
But beyond that, before we do, he was saying there that Megyn Kelly is a part of this purge of patriot values and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And it's worth noting that Megyn Kelly did do an interview this week where she talked about Bill O 'Reilly was part of the reason that she left Fox News.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so was Roger Ailes.
There was a toxic environment that you can't work in if you're a woman.
jordan holmes
How much money have they paid out just to keep him on the air?
dan friesen
Well, he does draw huge ratings with these old people, so that kind of makes sense from a business standpoint.
But it's the same thing with Joe Arpaio.
Like, how the fuck did he stay sheriff when he's getting sued for millions of dollars over and over and over again?
jordan holmes
And how the fuck has he not been in jail for the rest of his life?
dan friesen
I think that at this point it's becoming a thing where he's like 80-something years old and he's gonna die.
unidentified
I don't either.
jordan holmes
I want him in jail.
I want George W. to still be prosecuted for war crimes.
dan friesen
I want him at the Hague.
jordan holmes
I think he should be one of the Nazi...
Like, he's a Nuremberg trial level monster.
And I hope he gets fucking...
dan friesen
And just so we're fair, if we're being, like, real with it...
Obama and Bill Clinton should, too.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Pretty much all of our presidents should be tried as war criminals.
There's a lot of stuff that has been done that is not okay.
jordan holmes
And Andrew Jackson should be revived, killed, revived, and then hung.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Instead of having a picture of him put into the White House.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Into the Oval Office.
jordan holmes
No, that's not where it should be.
dan friesen
So, in memory of the fact that he's talking...
jordan holmes
We have a genociders picture in the White House.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
We celebrate a genocider.
dan friesen
It would be like if Merkel had Hitler's picture up in the...
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fucking insane!
dan friesen
It's absolutely unacceptable.
jordan holmes
What's wrong with America?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Trump is president.
dan friesen
We're all going crazy.
So...
jordan holmes
Make America genocide again.
Make America genocide again.
dan friesen
That's so close to Amerageddon, Alex Jones' movie.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Speaking of which, if everybody donates...
To the Patreon.
I've said this publicly, and I don't know if I've said it on the show.
We will record at least one audio commentary for one of Alex Jones' movies.
Okay.
We will do that.
I'm willing to do it.
jordan holmes
We're going to do a full MST3K, huh?
dan friesen
Yep, we will do that.
jordan holmes
Now that we have more interest in Alex Jones and a new series of MST3K, we're going to fucking ride the wave on both.
That's what we're doing.
dan friesen
We're going to make a Chicago public TV show where we're in space and we have some robot friends and we just watch Alex Jones.
I don't think we could afford that.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
But anyway, please donate.
We'll expand content and all that stuff.
I feel like I'm saying that too much.
jordan holmes
You've said it many times.
dan friesen
But in different contexts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because now I'm saying we'll make these movie docu...
Who cares?
unidentified
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Fuck off to you?
But mostly, I was saying it to myself.
Anyway.
In honor of this bringing back up Megyn Kelly.
I want to replay this clip because it's horrible, and it's fun now in the context that we know that part of the reason that she left was the sexual harassment environment, and people are going down for it.
And this is how Alex Jones, back at the beginning of 2017, in his video, The Secret of 2017, spoke about Megyn Kelly.
alex jones
Huge things are happening right now.
You look at these tarts.
It's not that she's a woman.
Some of the smart people I know are women.
unidentified
Tart.
alex jones
But you have the archetype of the dumb guy, the dumb woman.
I mean, Megyn Kelly is the dumb blonde cheerleader who looked okay ten years ago on Fox.
Now just looks like an ugly witch.
jordan holmes
I forgot about how awful he is.
alex jones
And she reportedly told friends, oh, I'm ugly, I'm old now, I better join the liberals.
She's wanting to go jump onto some failed ship because she feels rejected.
After buying into the mainstream media's lie that Donald Trump was this evil guy, this is just her thinking, oh my god, I'm hated at Fox.
I'm hated by the viewers now.
Let me go to NBC.
Because those failures, those vampires are ready to get whoever they can swindle into joining them.
dan friesen
And now that we know that his code is vampire means pedophile, you know, he's saying that everyone at NBC is pedophiles, but that's neither here nor there.
She left because of a horrible chauvinistic environment that she was working in, and Alex Jones' response is to critique her attractiveness and insist that she's told friends that she thinks she's ugly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is horrible.
jordan holmes
No, that makes perfect sense.
unidentified
This is horrible.
jordan holmes
That's how, you know, that's the only reason women do things, right?
dan friesen
This is inexcusable levels of ugly manliness.
You know, ugly maleness.
It's so disgusting.
jordan holmes
No, fuck men.
Yeah.
I've said this before.
All men should just be...
We have genetic research.
We can clone.
We can, you know, steal a bunch of sperm and then get rid of us.
And then you'll be fine.
You'll be fucking fine.
dan friesen
Ladies.
jordan holmes
You don't need us.
dan friesen
You don't even have to steal that sperm.
I got plenty.
jordan holmes
Just raid the sperm banks.
Just fucking tear them down.
dan friesen
If there's one thing I know about men, it's that they're not so thrilled to hold on to their sperm.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That's how you get rid of us, right?
You trick us into rubbing one out and then straight into the guillotine.
That's how it goes.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Okay.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying...
This is a great plan.
I'm just blue sky thinking.
I'm just throwing ideas at the wall.
How do you want to kill all men?
It's up to you.
Everybody has their own preference.
dan friesen
Sure.
So this next clip is kind of indicative of how at this point, it's not really clear what he thinks about the Bill O 'Reilly situation.
He has acknowledged...
That he's a sexual harassing person.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But he's also said that Hollywood and the Democrats, like all of Hollywood is Democrats, whatever, he says that they're worse, and then actually what's going on is it wasn't so much about the fact that he sexually harassed people, it's that he was a patriot and there was a purge going on.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So it's so unclear.
jordan holmes
One day a year at Fox News for 12 hours, they just fucking get rid of old white people.
dan friesen
They just run around.
unidentified
All day.
dan friesen
They run around with oranges and socks, and you'll get to hit the Patriots with them.
jordan holmes
And that includes the football team, too, if they're there.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
They may be there, they may not be there.
Who knows?
Tom Brady hangs out at Fox News, I assume.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I would also assume that.
But anyway, so here's a clip that's...
I want to say two things that I haven't pointed out.
This is straight through again.
I didn't edit anything out.
These clips are just segments.
jordan holmes
The entire thing that's just chopped into little bits.
dan friesen
His special report, this is the entire thing of it.
I'm not taking anything out.
And then secondarily, we haven't even addressed the fact that he's recording this as he drives to court.
This is in his car.
jordan holmes
This is what he thinks about on the way to court.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
He's like, wait, I have to go defend my right to have my kids.
I gotta fucking talk about Bill O 'Reilly for 15 minutes.
jordan holmes
Somebody needs to make sure that everybody knows Bill O 'Reilly is not that bad.
dan friesen
If that's even his point.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
I don't even know.
jordan holmes
Has he even actually said that what Bill O 'Reilly did was bad?
dan friesen
He has said that, I mean, I think it's...
jordan holmes
Like, is he putting it somewhere in, like, medium atrocity?
Is that what he's doing right there?
dan friesen
I think that he thinks that all he did was try and use his position to get women to have sex with him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As opposed to what he...
jordan holmes
Which is a crime.
dan friesen
Right.
That's bad enough on its own.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't think that Alex is dealing with the fact that some women probably were cornered and groped.
I think that those are things that most likely happened.
Yeah, and even if not, he used demeaning language and sexualized professional women, called that one lady hot chocolate, that black lady that worked at Fox.
jordan holmes
Oh boy!
dan friesen
Yeah, so I mean, there's just like, he's minimizing for sure, but I think he's still implying that his behavior was bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But anyway, this next clip is just like...
jordan holmes
If you're...
Because he's...
They've paid out like 25 million in...
Or some 20 million in like sexual harassment claims.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
He got 25 million.
jordan holmes
Right.
And Roger Ailes got some huge number, too.
They paid Roger Ailes and Bill O 'Reilly more to leave than they paid the women that were sexually harassed.
dan friesen
Now, that sounds bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's in their contract.
There's not much that they can do about it at this point.
Although, if you're writing a contract, why do you have the...
If we fire you for all of your crimes...
Here's your money.
dan friesen
Well, again, it comes back to them being really marketable stars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, Roger Ailes was a good executive in terms of getting high ratings.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Bill O 'Reilly was a draw, so you get to dictate your contract in a lot of ways.
jordan holmes
If I am settling a lawsuit with Bill O 'Reilly and Fox News, I want one clause in there that I get to kick Bill O 'Reilly in the balls one time.
dan friesen
That's right.
jordan holmes
Just one time.
dan friesen
A running kick?
jordan holmes
I'll take your two million?
As long as I get to put a toe right through his balls.
dan friesen
Do you get a running start or is it a stationary kick?
jordan holmes
No, it is a stationary kick.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's bad negotiating.
jordan holmes
But you get to use golf shoes.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
So however it is you want to go.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So anyway, this clip is Alex not really knowing what side he should take.
And it's bizarre.
alex jones
But Fox threw everything it had at Trump.
Megan threw everything she had at Trump.
It failed.
So she left NBC.
Ailes still stepped down because clearly he'd done some things that were wrong and bad.
I'm not defending him.
People say, oh, you're being nice to Fox because you wanted a job from Roger Ailes.
I was offered shows on Fox, okay?
Multiple.
I'll get to that in a minute.
But expanding on that, they can take them out.
They can take Grouch out.
They can take me out.
They can shut down all free speech.
And that's why you see info wars with the total distortions of the media, even more than Bill O 'Reilly pretty much last week, being demonized and attacked with a bunch of twisted, made-up garbage, is because they know...
I basically represent our incredible audience of patriots who...
Understand globalism, understand it's unelected, understand it's authoritarian, and are educating others.
So it's our ideology of freedom and free market.
That is so frightening to the globalists that they've got to take us down.
If they can bring down Bill O 'Reilly and Roger Ailes, who did have Achilles heels, and quite frankly did deserve it at a certain level, they can bring everybody down.
jordan holmes
That's how you fucking put it.
The Achilles heel of a patriot is his toxic masculinity that causes him to sexually harass people and commit crimes.
That is their Achilles heel.
That's our one way of taking those guys down.
They're invincible to all their racism and...
They're fucking lies.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
And they're bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But you finally fucking shoot that arrow into their sexual harassment, and boom, you got them.
You got them!
dan friesen
But that's why they have to fight against feminists in the PC culture, is because if, you know, all of those people would go away, then that Achilles heel would never be attacked.
jordan holmes
I love his fucking argument that if they can take down those guys, admittedly, crime committers.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
If they can take down those crime committers...
dan friesen
Okay, and the kill is heel.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then, hey, they can come after Drudge.
Which is basically saying, like, Hey!
Drudge fucking sexually harasses people, too!
It's cool, though.
Once you get one of us...
It turns out we're all doing it!
dan friesen
And you know what the other problem is?
He's acting like it sets a precedent.
My man, the precedent already exists.
You can't sexually harass people.
jordan holmes
It's called the law!
The precedent was written!
Now, admittedly, it's probably not as old as we would like it to be.
dan friesen
Or as solid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I bet the sexual harassment laws didn't even exist until like 30 years ago.
dan friesen
Now, there's a couple of other issues that are really...
Murky in this clip, and I think you nailed some of them.
One is that he's really, really dumb to tie himself to this.
It is really dumb.
The issue is that Bill O 'Reilly and Roger Ailes legitimately and literally committed crimes.
But he thinks that it's all trumped up and it's the globalists going after them.
jordan holmes
So I don't think...
Here's my take on that.
And I know you got more to say and you're going to kick ass at it.
dan friesen
I'm putting my hand.
jordan holmes
I love you.
unidentified
Fill your hand.
jordan holmes
I know.
My take on that is he does think it's a crime.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But he thinks that the timing is the globalists coming after them.
dan friesen
Well, but that's stupid because Bill O 'Reilly has gotten in trouble in the past before.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That audio came out of him like talking about a lady in a falafel.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
Nothing happened then.
It's very much Cosby to me.
Everybody fucking knew the shit that was going on until it finally got out to people.
dan friesen
Well, no, that is absolutely true.
The issue is that in the past, what had happened was sponsors weren't willing to pull out.
And, you know, it got to a point where they could no longer argue that, like, hey, we can get tied in with this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then you saw it as it happened in real time.
Sponsors just kept falling off.
And he ended up ending his show like 15 minutes early one day because they just had no content to fill it and no ads.
jordan holmes
No shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, so they just went to Shepard Smith live in the other studio.
jordan holmes
That's fucking hilarious.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's crazy.
But like, that is why.
It's because of the advertisers.
There's nothing to do.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Sexual harassment is fine as long as people keep paying you.
dan friesen
Which is tragic.
I agree that that's tragic.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But again, Alex should not be tying in his fate to this.
Because what's going on is a crime is being punished.
It's not free speech being shat upon or anything like that.
And if he ties himself in with this, unfortunately, the metaphor and the analogy is that what he is on trial for is a crime.
And it's not.
It's a custody suit.
jordan holmes
And the more he releases videos like this defending sexual harassment...
Then we start turning into him losing custody and becoming a crime.
dan friesen
It almost seems like he subconsciously wants to lose custody.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That's a whole big can of worms that I don't know if we can...
dan friesen
Yeah, let's not.
jordan holmes
That one, I don't even know if I'm willing to jump into that.
dan friesen
But he's also sort of by proxy arguing that, like you're saying, the timing of this Bill O 'Reilly thing is fucked, and the timing of this custody suit is...
Intentional.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that people are trying to destroy him.
jordan holmes
Even though, again, it's been going on for three years.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
And no one's trying to destroy...
I mean, I think that some people are probably trying to destroy him, which I actually think is kind of bad.
But, like...
We're kind of trying to destroy him, too.
I don't know.
This is very murky territory.
jordan holmes
The secret of 2017 is...
Who's trying to destroy Alex Jones?
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Is it the globalists, or is it just common reality?
dan friesen
This is one of these, again, it's like an Agatha Christie novel.
Everyone did it.
Everyone is trying to destroy Alex Jones.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Murder on the Alex Jones Express.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Alex spouts some juicy Islamophobia.
Okay.
He says some really dumb stuff.
jordan holmes
How does he get to Islamophobia from here?
dan friesen
Watch and take notes.
jordan holmes
There's no way!
dan friesen
You know how I'm the king of transitions?
jordan holmes
You are the king of transitions.
dan friesen
I bow down to Alex in this clip.
alex jones
But you've got to understand, the motive for bringing Ailes and Bill O 'Reilly down was not the motive of actually loving women or caring about women.
Our own leftist governments...
Back radical jihads.
Women being sold in Libya after a failed state was created by Hillary.
By the tens of thousands.
ISIS selling thousands of little girls into sex slavery.
Some of them raped to death.
This is all documented.
But it's buried in the back of the newspaper.
Never mentioned on mainstream TV.
Jihad attacks happen almost every day now.
I mean, we just had another one yesterday.
Another one today.
It's becoming just unbelievable.
jordan holmes
That's two days.
That's all the days.
alex jones
What happened in Sweden?
Nothing happened in Sweden.
So...
Police officers getting killed.
People getting run over every week by cars, getting stabbed, getting shot, getting bombed.
Whether it's in England, or whether it's in France, or whether it's in Sweden, or whether it's in Belgium, or whether it just goes on.
And on and on, they just shut that all down.
And that's a big leftist Achilles heel, so they double down and say, no, feminism endorses Islam.
Let's put hijabs on.
That's their response.
It's a quadruple down.
I'm getting back to Bill O 'Reilly here briefly.
Because it's so important.
jordan holmes
Is the feminist slogan like, let's bring those coal hijabs back to Pennsylvania?
Is that what we're talking about?
What's going on here?
dan friesen
I think so.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love that it's so...
jordan holmes
Clean coal hijabs.
Sorry about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, which is a myth.
This whole thing is like, the feminists love Islam and they put hijabs on their head.
It comes out almost like a Dennis Miller sentence.
It's so bizarre.
All right, man.
All right.
Look, I know that there are terrorist events that are happening, and we're not denying that.
jordan holmes
No, and you know what?
There are things that he is correct about.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Now, it is not a leftist thing, but our government and CIA and all of those fuckheads have backed many.
Many terrorist organizations, they've done all of this shit.
Like, the whole Iran thing is us.
Like, it's our fault.
dan friesen
But now, let's take a step back and...
jordan holmes
As is ISIS!
ISIS is our fault!
dan friesen
Sure, but let's address where the lie is in Alex's truth.
Because these things are true.
But the lie comes from the fact that he's implying that the left...
Parts of the government, the leftist governments.
jordan holmes
Are the ones who are doing it?
dan friesen
He's even saying that, like, George W. Bush would be included in that.
Because when he's saying leftist, he really means, like, globalist.
jordan holmes
Anybody.
Anybody who's not him.
dan friesen
Not patriots.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he's saying that, at least the implication is that they're backing these terror groups for their terrorism.
For their selling children into slavery.
And these sorts of things.
When in reality, oftentimes, it's proxy wars that don't go well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you need somebody to fight as opposed to us, because if we fought there, it would trigger World War III.
jordan holmes
Right.
Even though everybody knows that it's...
Global politics is fucking stupid.
dan friesen
It's insane.
jordan holmes
Everyone's children.
dan friesen
And we're not for it.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
But it's not what Alex is describing.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
Also, and then again, he does that same thing that he did before, where he's saying, you know, it's not that they care about women, it is that...
You know, it's time to get him out of here.
Which has that same ring of, well, because they don't solve all women trafficking, then they don't care about the certain problem that they're experiencing.
So just because you don't solve everything doesn't mean you can't solve one thing.
dan friesen
Right, and I'm not a foreign policy and war historian or anything like that, but I know that...
At least to some extent, backing groups that have turned bad in the future did help in the present.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, there were strategic goals that we were trying to achieve, and we achieved them with the help of, say, Al-Qaeda back when they were against the Russians.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, those sorts of things.
They turned out terribly.
But in the immediate...
jordan holmes
9-11.
They did turn out terribly.
That was a bad move on our part.
dan friesen
But in the immediate, it helped.
And so it is sort of just a...
jordan holmes
Same with Iran.
In the immediate, we got that oil.
Love that oil.
And then, you know, the rest of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that doesn't make it right.
jordan holmes
It makes it super bad.
dan friesen
But it makes it far more complicated than Alex is pitching it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then further...
jordan holmes
Or the fucking Banana Republics.
unidentified
Anyways...
jordan holmes
America's not the good guy.
dan friesen
But further, it's so bizarre to, like...
Bill O 'Reilly did sexually harass people.
And then...
jordan holmes
At least.
dan friesen
To deflect to this is very weird.
Like, it's such a tangential thought.
It's...
It's mental illness.
Legitimately.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
We're seeing demonstrated.
It's an inability to track thoughts A to B to C. Basically.
It's like...
jordan holmes
Well, his internal logic is get back on the subject I want to talk about.
unidentified
Which in this case apparently is Islamophobia.
jordan holmes
And this is another one of those things that we've talked about is those waystones.
Anytime he gets into an area where he doesn't know quite what's his narrative, what's his full angle.
dan friesen
What would Alex Jones say?
jordan holmes
Yes, Alex Jones asks himself that all the time.
dan friesen
At certain points, he's sort of lost track of his persona.
jordan holmes
So he goes back to those little spots that give him that recharge, and then he's going to jump back into Bill O 'Reilly.
That is actually true, because that clip ended with him saying, let me get back to Bill O 'Reilly.
That's the thing where it gives him that kind of up and down on those peaks there, where he can talk about that stuff, that his listeners, if he...
If he really just said, hey, we don't like Bill O 'Reilly because he sexually harasses people, inexplicably, he's going to get angry people.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He's going to get people who are like, no, Bill O 'Reilly...
Should be allowed to sexually harass people.
dan friesen
Which, by the way...
jordan holmes
Because sexual harassment is just a free speech issue.
Or it doesn't exist.
That's what his listeners really believe.
dan friesen
Or it's women being petty.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Oh, fuck them!
dan friesen
But anyway...
jordan holmes
But yeah, sorry.
dan friesen
We can make our position very clear.
We hate Bill O 'Reilly for his rhetoric.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But more...
For his behavior.
unidentified
For...
jordan holmes
Fucking...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we're thrilled he got fired.
jordan holmes
He's a true monster.
dan friesen
The only negative in this story is that he's not being prosecuted.
And second, that he got millions of dollars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But again, we understand contract issues.
It's not like some...
jordan holmes
Capitalism is bullshit.
Basically.
So...
So that is how he can talk about that, which allows him to address what people think he's supposed to address.
And then, in order to kind of avoid actually taking any position right there, he switches back into Islamophobia.
So, I mean, if you are taking him at his own assessment of his viewers' intelligence, I'm assuming that means they think he agrees with whatever it is they agree with on Bill O 'Reilly.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a good...
Summation of it.
jordan holmes
It's, you know, either it's mental illness, it's cunning, or it's a combination of both, or it's just a coincidence that he's a lunatic and people believe him.
dan friesen
I think he's been playing the role, essentially, of a cornered animal for like 20 years, and that's where he shines.
jordan holmes
That's true.
On the defense.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so now he's back on it.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Now he's back in familiar territory.
dan friesen
So this next clip, he explains what Bill O 'Reilly's biggest mistake was.
And let me say this, it's not what you think.
jordan holmes
Um, ooh, uh, could it be?
dan friesen
It's not sexual harassment.
jordan holmes
That he never got a toupee.
He could have at least tried hair plugs.
dan friesen
It's not that.
It's not that.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
We're getting back to Bill O 'Reilly here briefly.
Because it's so important.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
Bill O 'Reilly.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
His biggest mistake is he sold out to the system.
He was quasi against Trump.
jordan holmes
That wasn't his biggest mistake!
alex jones
He was conservative light.
He was completely, basically, again, there to be controlled opposition.
But now he's got to be taken down as a sacrificial lamb and as a victory for the left that they're openly destroying any vestige of independent media that could oppose the globalist program.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Fox News, the most independent of media.
dan friesen
Yeah, that argument is...
jordan holmes
Fox News, the wing of the Republican Party.
Absolutely independent media.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And this may be a good time for us to address this a little bit, too.
We have a slight bit of agreement with Alex that most of the mainstream media is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, like, it's fine to believe that and not agree with him.
I don't think necessarily that CNN does a good job.
I don't think Fox News does a great job.
They actually have better journalistic standards, so they have a better batting average, certainly, than a dumb blog or Infowars.
But they're not holy to us.
There's no reason to implicitly trust something just because it came out on CNN.
jordan holmes
And with the level of betrayal that they have...
One of the things that I refuse to ever forgive them for is by adjusting themselves to make everything a horse race, they gave Trump...
So many billions of dollars of free advertising.
And they spent so much time tearing Hillary down in order to make it a horse race.
That's what gets them ratings.
It's closer than you think.
Who knows who's ahead in the polls this day?
And so by doing that, by giving him so much attention because he's a great entertainer, then...
Fucking, they were absolutely complicit in his win.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
They fucking cheered for the Iraq War.
unidentified
The...
dan friesen
Real talk, they did more to get Trump elected than Alex.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Even though Alex thinks that he's the main reason that Trump got elected.
jordan holmes
Absolutely they did.
dan friesen
And the other thing, when you're talking about the Iraq War, and now even...
jordan holmes
And now the fucking bombs!
Yeah!
dan friesen
And Afghanistan.
The other problem is that a lot of the mainstream media, and Alex is guilty of this too, are essentially engaged in a game of war profiteering.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, where they make bigger ratings and make more money off of tricking people into thinking that...
I mean, we do think that the world is about to end, but they also make money off of that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We just privately are afraid that that's the case.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes, we fear for lives, not for bottom lines.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Alex, again, is refuting what his lawyers have made the argument that he's a performance artist and he's playing a character.
Again, he's saying these things that he probably shouldn't be saying publicly.
He wants to make the point that he is super fucking real, and he juxtaposes that to a list of characters he's played, which is delightful.
unidentified
Oh, God, yes.
dan friesen
And then he gets into a scanner darkly a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay, yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He was in that movie.
jordan holmes
Keanu Reeves.
dan friesen
He does give a shout-out to Keanu Reeves.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But he gets into that a little bit, and I have some intense thoughts about it that we'll get to when we come back.
alex jones
And that's why they call us fake news.
That's why they lie and say that I'm fake when I'm not.
They say, do you ever play an actor?
Well, yeah, I do skits and things, but that doesn't mean everything I do is an actor.
That's individual bases.
It's clear when I do it.
Cobra Commander, the Joker, David Mendelson, the third British globalist character I played.
I mean, when I play a street preacher in Scanner Darkly with Keanu Reeves, Woody Harrelson, all those people, I mean, that's...
I actually took a role where I was playing a part of a patriot in the future dystopia who's being arrested for his free speech.
Wow!
That was 2006.
Wow!
2017, and now it's almost become reality.
Now it's near future.
The face scanners, the total surveillance, the grid.
I advised on that film.
My advisory capacity on that PKD film rendition.
It's basically come true.
Government bringing in a drug for the population to become addicted to it, then using the drug war to put you in these basic drug rehabs.
They're actually slave warrants.
They reprogram you.
And then here we are.
dan friesen
So, first of all, rehabs are slave reprogramming centers.
Obviously.
Certainly not helping people overcome genetic addictions.
No.
jordan holmes
At this point, every day in trial, they could just show the clip that he made that morning.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it'd be like...
jordan holmes
See, look at this fucking guy!
dan friesen
This is on the way here!
The trial would go on indefinitely, because everyone watching would be like, I gotta see what he says tomorrow.
This is nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we have a hung jury yet again, so we're gonna do another day, I guess.
dan friesen
This guy's fucking insane, I gotta keep watching.
So, the other thing I want to talk about is Philip K. Dick.
Yes.
First of all, I love Philip K. Dick.
I've become a big fan of his in the last few years.
jordan holmes
PKD.
dan friesen
Read a lot of his books.
And one of the things that's important to recognize is that he was a speed addict.
And he basically wrote these books in almost a fugue state.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where he would just binge on speed and then write these transcripts.
Because he was married and he needed to support his family.
And he got paid by the word.
So a lot of the stuff he wrote was utter garbage.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's a lot of stuff that sucks, but there's some stuff that's really great.
I think there's a parallel to Alex in that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He puts out so much goddamn content.
He seems like he's on speed, but it's probably just super male vitality or brain force.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
These things that have sort of speedy qualities.
jordan holmes
Which could be speed.
dan friesen
Maybe.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who knows?
But...
The thing that I want to take issue with is that if he wants to make this argument about the government drugging people or introducing these drugs to, you know, pacify or whatever.
jordan holmes
Or to destroy the black community.
dan friesen
A Scanner Darkly isn't the best instance that he could go with, and it really shows that he doesn't know Philip K. Dick's catalog.
A Scanner Darkly is a good book, and the drug aspect of it is really interesting, but I would have gone with the three stigmata of Palmer Eldridge.
Which is a much better book of his.
jordan holmes
Of course.
We all know that book.
dan friesen
It's a much better book that has to do with drugs being put.
Basically, there's a drug, choosy, that is, like, what people, everyone, the entire world is on this drug.
It's because everyone's lives are terrible.
The world is, you know, it's miserable, so they take these drugs.
And they are able to escape into a fantasy world.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Then this guy brings in a new drug and tries to take over the game.
It's very complicated.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
As all Philip K. Dick books are.
They're fucking insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that would be a much better one.
Alex, please read The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldridge.
jordan holmes
I would also have gone with Dune.
That's a solid addiction book.
dan friesen
It's not PKD, my man.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
But, you know, that's, you know, Frank Herbert.
I would go with him.
He was better than Philip K. Dick.
dan friesen
I said it.
I said it.
I disagree.
jordan holmes
I'll say it again.
dan friesen
But there is an indication throughout Philip K. Dick's work that he's sort of trying to deal with his own drug use through his narratives.
Like, there are a lot of drugs that fly throughout his stories.
He's a fascinating guy.
I love Philip K. Dick.
But Alex is dumb.
That's my point.
I just resent it when there's someone that I really like and someone who I really don't like is misrepresenting them.
jordan holmes
I like that he said he advised on the film.
dan friesen
Yeah, right.
jordan holmes
He advised on the...
Hey, hey.
Here's what I think.
dan friesen
Hey, link later.
jordan holmes
Hey, Keanu.
I like your style.
dan friesen
I advised...
jordan holmes
You know what?
Fewer expressions.
And that's when Keanu's career took off.
dan friesen
I advised on this movie that I'm in for 45 seconds.
All right.
No way were you a Philip K. Dick advisor on this movie.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Linklater is a huge Philip K. Dick fan.
I'm sure he knows plenty.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I bet he's read The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldridge.
By the way, I know that it sounds like a really obscure title, but it's one of his biggest books.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
I didn't know.
I've just never heard of it before.
dan friesen
Well, look, you're not a PKD guy.
jordan holmes
I am not a PKD guy.
dan friesen
I'm down with PKD.
You know me.
Anyway, this next clip, we're done with Philip K. Dick stuff.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I know the sadness in your voice.
dan friesen
I've now lost interest in the rest of this show.
I perked up there for a minute.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Now I'm just waiting for him to bring up Lovecraft.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
I gotcha.
Then we're really going.
dan friesen
He did, actually.
I forgot.
On a past episode, he brought up The Color Out of Space.
Anyway, look.
This next clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This next clip is just more about Bill O 'Reilly being a sellout and how Alex would never sell out.
Ever.
jordan holmes
Ever.
Not once.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Then he starts quoting Mark Twain for some reason.
alex jones
And then here we are.
So Bill O 'Reilly sold out to the system and got burned by it, which is a lesson to all these folks.
There's no honor among thieves.
Remember this, the truth always will defeat tyranny and people have courage to promote it.
That's why Mark Twain said a lie can go halfway around the world before the truth can put its pants on.
Another Mark Twain I love to quote.
In the beginning, a patriot, scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned.
But in time, when it's called, succeed for Tim to join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
And I am a patriot for our republic.
I do support it.
It's not perfect, but it's better than every other country's system.
I want to restore it.
And I want to thank you all for your support and everything you've done in the past to pray for us and to promote our links and our articles.
It's a big deal that Cernovich got the documents and Google had to admit that they were having an army of operatives downvote Infowars stories to block them.
That's only part of a wider spectrum of us being strangled right now.
dan friesen
So that's just a lie.
jordan holmes
Well, that's closer than delisting.
So when we talked about it originally, he was saying they were trying to delist him and get him off the internet.
dan friesen
Off the Google search engine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The fact that he's saying now that it's downvoting is closer to what it really is.
dan friesen
Well, but here's the thing, is that within a day or two he's already changed the narrative on what this is, and we're seeing in real time how he spins these waypoints that we brought up.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because this has now just become one of his waypoints as opposed to the main story he wants to talk about.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So that's fascinating.
But secondarily, I didn't clarify this nearly enough on the last episode when we talked a little bit more about the Google stuff.
It turns out that those 10,000 contractors, they don't have the authority to downvote anything or to delist anything.
Only Google itself can do that.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
All they can do is fill out reports of what they found on their searches, and then that information is used by Google.
So all of this stuff, the idea that there's contracts out to downvote them and delist them, that even on its face isn't true.
It can't be true, because those people can't do that.
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
It's very bizarre.
But also, I have another Mark Twain quote that I would like that I think is actually more accurate to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Suck a dick, Alex Jones!
dan friesen
That was from the jumping frog of Calaveras County.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
No, this quote is, get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.
unidentified
Ah.
dan friesen
That is...
Similar to what Alex does, but he skips that first part about getting his facts.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the first one he said, the lie traveling halfway around the world before the truth can get its pants on, it's like, that's how you have a job, dude.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the only reason you have a job, is because a lie is so easy to transfer.
It's like a fucking disease.
dan friesen
Which, again, within that same couple of sentences, he gets into the Google stuff, which is that.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
100%.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's the same thing you're seeing now with Louise Mench and that horrible fucking witch hunt that she's going on.
dan friesen
Let's not get into that.
That's too much.
That's a whole other thing.
So, yeah, I mean, Alex, the idea that he's misusing these quotes that he's saying is just so Alex.
It's so Alex.
It's delightful.
It's bizarre.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
And in fact, most of those apply to him.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Directly.
dan friesen
Again, it's that twin.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's the twin absorbed in the womb theory.
jordan holmes
Absorbed twin in the womb, sitting in his ear like Athena, whispering bad things.
dan friesen
So this next clip- Or good things.
Alex Jones does a bizarre Winston Churchill impression.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
I could not be more in to hear what Alex Jones' Winston Churchill sounds like.
dan friesen
And then he says some bad things about Bill O 'Reilly, but at the same time, he doesn't go far enough.
It's very bizarre.
So here we go.
alex jones
That's only part of a wider spectrum of us being strangled right now.
But because of you coming through, we're actually growing, all of us together, towards victory in the face of this.
So know this.
I'll never surrender.
To quote Winston Churchill, I will go on to the end, whatever the cost may be.
We shall go on to the end, whatever the cost may be.
We shall fight, and we shall never surrender.
We will defend our republic.
We will defend freedom.
We will defend renaissance.
We will defend the right to peaceful religion.
We will defend the right to art, literature, and true culture.
And we will defeat the right-wing control freaks, the left-wing control freaks, and all the cults.
dan friesen
Those goals are pretty good, but also I think it was more of a Michael Caine impression that he was doing.
If all Alex was about was defending art and literature and defending expression of religion and these sorts of things, I wouldn't have a problem with him.
jordan holmes
No, I'm pretty sure that's what he does.
dan friesen
I would not have a problem with him.
jordan holmes
Do you remember earlier in the episode where he was like...
And, you know, leftists, they just want to destroy art.
Do you remember that part?
He was protecting it.
dan friesen
No, but their version of art is a skull covered in semen.
Diseased semen.
unidentified
Diseased semen.
jordan holmes
That's my favorite.
dan friesen
A diamond skull covered in diseased semen sold for $50 million.
You fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
You know, the more I think about it, though...
dan friesen
The more you want that skull?
jordan holmes
I kind of want that skull.
I want that skull.
I want to see...
I just want to...
Not to be gross.
I just want to touch it one time.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I just want to see what it feels like.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
I've never touched diseased semen-covered diamonds before.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
That seems like a life experience I want to have.
You only get one life.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
You only get one life, Dan.
dan friesen
I'm not going to judge you based on your goals.
jordan holmes
All I'm saying is I'm not going to not touch it.
If somebody brings a diseased diamond-encrusted skull near me, I'm going to be like, hey, can I touch it?
dan friesen
Okay, so in the next calendar year, I'm going to strive to live embodying Sasha Banks' theme song.
And you are going to...
jordan holmes
I'm going to find a diamond-encrusted skull.
dan friesen
You're going to try and touch the For Love of God sculpture.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Okay.
So anyway, here's where...
jordan holmes
We have very different goals.
dan friesen
He's going to get into Bill here.
He's getting back.
alex jones
The secret term of me to take humanity and turn us into a bunch of servile, brain-dead zombies.
And the zombie war is here.
A lot of the public is dumber than a box of rocks.
I don't take solace in that.
That scares me.
But the elite swim in an ocean of idiots.
That's why they want to produce more of them.
So Bill O 'Reilly...
With his hundreds of millions of dollars, can sail off into the sunset.
But he's a bully, and he's a thug, and he tried to bring me down.
dan friesen
That seems to be what this is more about.
He doesn't give a fuck that he actually was harming women.
jordan holmes
Of course not!
Of course not!
dan friesen
He doesn't care that he was creating a threatening and hostile work environment for these women based solely on the fact that they were women that he wanted to fuck.
Instead, Alex is mad because he's a petty asshole and Bill O 'Reilly tried to take him down.
Which, again, he played that clip earlier in this episode.
We listened to it.
jordan holmes
And Bill O 'Reilly was not trying to take him down at all.
dan friesen
Was not a takedown.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh!
dan friesen
And didn't have anything to do with...
Pedophilia or online predators or anything like that that Alex seems to think it did.
What a dum-dum.
jordan holmes
Well, admittedly, Bill O 'Reilly is a bully.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He is a thug.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I don't know what thug means in this context.
dan friesen
I don't know, but if Bill O 'Reilly says thug, you know it's racial.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
I assume that Alex Jones actually believes Bill O 'Reilly's black, right?
dan friesen
No, I think he's using thug in the term of like...
jordan holmes
Hired hand.
dan friesen
Sure, or like organized crime.
You know?
That sort of thing.
He's in a system of racketeering.
I don't fucking know.
jordan holmes
What is he talking about?
dan friesen
Alex is fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
Alex is fucking stupid.
dan friesen
But now he gets into some really weird thoughts about Rush Limbaugh and Bill O 'Reilly.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
We get to the fucking trifecta of monstrous right-wing propagandists right now.
We got Alex talking about Bill, talking about Rush.
And we're not even talking about the band.
We're talking about that horrifying monster, Rush Limbaugh.
The man who first turned your parents against you.
That's what Rush Limbaugh really is to me.
The man who finally made me acknowledge that my parents are...
Easily influenced by this scaremongering old ugly man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I don't mean ugly in a physical appearance way.
I mean it as the soul of Rush Limbaugh is tragic.
dan friesen
Well, take some solace in knowing that in this clip Alex is going to cuck him out pretty good.
jordan holmes
Sweet.
dan friesen
And then he's going to lie a bunch.
jordan holmes
I love it when the right wing right wings itself.
dan friesen
He's going to lie a bunch about the audience sizes.
alex jones
I've seen articles on InfoWars, you know, halfway defending him.
People say, well, what's this?
You don't like Bill O 'Reilly.
I don't control all my riders.
They've got some good perspectives.
He's not all bad.
I get the fact that it was political targeting.
And I get the fact that we're in the same boat, even though I'm not the same type of person as he is.
So I understand.
They got him.
jordan holmes
They're coming for everybody else.
unidentified
So far as we know.
alex jones
Limbaugh's attacked me many times.
I've defended him.
I've tried to take him off the air.
I guess he didn't like me or thought he didn't like me because they put me on the same time as him.
That was not my decision.
But...
I mean, all the industry says, the media says, you know, I'm the, quote, heir to Rush Limbaugh.
Let me say that in final close.
Who said that?
I already have more listeners and viewers every week than Rush Limbaugh conservatively.
He has mainly radio lists for 20-something million a week.
That's huge.
Biggest threshold show.
Then it's like George Norrie and Michael Savage and others.
Great guys.
And then on the internet, he's got a pretty big presence, but Infowars dwarfs him.
The only thing bigger is Drudge, and it's not about who's the biggest, but if I am the biggest thing out there now, because of you, us together, then am I a target?
Well, look at the news, and that'll tell you why we're under such attack.
dan friesen
No, you're under attack in the media because you're engaged in a very ugly custody battle that is proving you to be sort of a hypocrite.
Rush Limbaugh has 13.5 million weekly listeners to his show, and that is not the number one show on Terrestrial Radio.
Two shows on NPR, Morning Edition, and All Things Considered both have over 14 million listeners every week.
And right after that is Sean Hannity with 12.5 million a week.
He brought up George Norrie, that's Coast to Coast AM.
That's only 2.75 million a week.
So his numbers are fucking stupid and way off.
Savage Nation is down there at 5.25 million.
That's beat by Glenn Beck.
He doesn't want to bring that up.
unidentified
Do you think he gets different numbers?
jordan holmes
Do you think the people who...
Here's my guess.
dan friesen
That's a great question.
jordan holmes
My guess is there are underlings at Infowars, and they just give him a spreadsheet.
With a one and then a lot of zeros after it and say, this is how many people listen and that's that.
dan friesen
Congratulations, Alex.
Yeah.
Possibly.
Possibly.
So I found out, I looked into his statistics some more because I wanted to know more specifics.
I found some things that I'm not thrilled about.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
One of the things I learned is that percentage-wise of his audience...
Chicago is the biggest city in the world.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
1.22% of his audience is in Chicago.
jordan holmes
It's you!
How many times do I have to tell you this?
How many times do I have to tell you this?
It's you!
unidentified
You're the only person listening!
dan friesen
That might be what these stats are.
I might be skewing off.
jordan holmes
It's you, and then you still have a...
Registration in Austin with your parents.
So it's those two.
dan friesen
That might be it.
So the other thing that I found is kind of interesting is that Quantcast has a metric called affinity.
And this tracks...
I'll just read their explanation of what affinity means.
This is a comparison of the audience composition of this property.
In this case, property means Infowars.com.
Or audience segment to the...
Okay, so it's a comparison of the audience composition of Infowars.
To the Internet's population at large.
The higher the affinity number is, the more concentrated Infowars is in a particular geographic area.
For example, if Infowars has an affinity of 10 times, a multiplier of 10 for San Francisco, that means that a given visitor is 10 times more likely to be from San Francisco as any Internet user chosen at random.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I gotcha.
An affinity of 0.5 times means the visitor is half as likely.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So, I looked at the statistics, and something really jumped up at me.
Because in the United States, the affinity ranking is 1.98 times.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So it's twice as likely as a random internet user to be a United States...
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what doesn't make sense?
jordan holmes
I am guessing that America is not the top one, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Who is the top one?
dan friesen
Well, number two is the Cayman Islands, which has a three times affinity rating.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
I don't know where the Cayman Islands are.
dan friesen
It's the not very big area.
Less important, I think.
jordan holmes
What is going on with the Cayman Islands?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's a tax shelter for lots of folks.
jordan holmes
Right, so maybe...
Maybe the globalists are listening!
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's possible!
dan friesen
But here's, you know, who number one is?
jordan holmes
Russia?
dan friesen
Syria.
jordan holmes
No shit!
dan friesen
Syria has an 8.5 times affinity rating.
jordan holmes
That is...
Well, I'm guessing that that's probably more recent than not.
dan friesen
It's just the current statistics.
I'm not sure what time frame this covers.
jordan holmes
So it is...
It would definitely...
That would make sense for the current statistics because...
Syria is then basically reading those calendar narratives.
That's what's going on with that, because I'm guessing they read all of the Syria wasn't really responsible for all of this shit type thing.
dan friesen
And I would assume that, I mean, I'm not saying that...
jordan holmes
I'm guessing that Syria is much more likely to watch RT than in another place like that.
dan friesen
Sure.
And, you know, I'm not going to say that Syria is just all rubble everywhere, but the people who have access to...
Reliable internet at this point and or maybe reading news on the internet are not necessarily the random civilians.
jordan holmes
They're definitely not the people who are getting their shit bombed right now.
dan friesen
Nope, that could just be Assad.
So just like I am Chicago, that could all be him.
jordan holmes
There's eight people who listen.
Six of them are in the Cayman Islands.
And then there's you and Assad.
dan friesen
What's super interesting, too, is that if you look at the numbers of amount of people who are listening in Syria, it's not very high, considering...
jordan holmes
Well, of course not.
dan friesen
But compared to other folks.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Compared to other places, but yet their affinity rating is super high.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is bizarre.
Also, I don't like the term affinity being used for this, because that seems to imply that people like it.
And that's not necessarily true.
I've gone to the website and I don't like it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you're much more likely to like it than not if you're visiting that website frequently.
dan friesen
Nah, there's tons of websites I've gone to in my life pretty consistently that I don't like.
jordan holmes
To hate read?
dan friesen
Sure.
Plenty of it.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Anyway, that's super bizarre.
Also, I checked in and the ratings and traffic to his website in the last week hasn't gone up at all.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So even this corked stuff isn't really doing anything.
I expected to go there and see a massive spike.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not.
I think people are just reading other people's tweets.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, and I would assume that really it kind of feels like he has reached his saturation.
Like, he's got everybody he's going to get.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
That's what his audience is.
The people that are going to be there for him.
And he's not going to gain or lose listeners.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He's just right at that point where everybody who would be listening to Alex Jones is listening to Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Also, I just checked our Twitter and we got a hot tip for our next episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
So we'll check out that.
Thanks for the heads up.
We'll see if it's what we're going to do.
James?
jordan holmes
Yeah, just constantly tweet at us live because maybe we're recording.
unidentified
Why not?
dan friesen
Anyway, we're coming towards the end here, and for the rest of this, he's recording from his car and what have you, but he's still a fucking businessman.
jordan holmes
Is he driving?
dan friesen
He was for a bit of this, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
That's very dangerous.
unidentified
Well, I think.
dan friesen
I don't know, because it's not video.
It's just audio.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It's just a static picture of Alex on screen while this audio plays.
But he's still a fucking businessman, dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's gotta get his plugs in.
jordan holmes
Gotta sell the...
Gotta be 30% off.
Is the Easter sale still on?
dan friesen
It is still on.
jordan holmes
It's still on?
dan friesen
Yeah, as of the last I heard.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
On Friday, they were like, we're gonna shut it down tonight.
Yeah.
But this is what scam artists...
jordan holmes
I'm giving up his Easter sale for Lent.
dan friesen
This is what scam artists do.
They say, like, tomorrow it won't be here, the sale won't be here, and then tomorrow, like, we're stopping it soon.
Is that how that works?
It's this thing called fear of loss of gain.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's a trick...
jordan holmes
Well, it's the tele...
It's the tele...
Or not telemarketing.
It's the infomercial.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's the sales, like...
We're going to put that these are selling too fast.
These wooden handled knives, they're just selling too fast.
We've got to put a timer on this.
You've got an hour?
dan friesen
That's the second thing.
That is artificial scarcity.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That is, we're going to run out of this thing and you're not going to be able to get it.
That motivates some people who are afraid that they're not going to get the thing.
But then fear of loss of gain is what people have when it's like, oh, the sale is going to stop.
And if I don't buy now, I'll have to pay 30% more.
And, you know, you come to realize that sale never ends.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's always a sale, but if you pretend you're going to end it soon, people don't call you on it.
jordan holmes
It's like Kohl's.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
The bar?
No, Kohl's.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
Kohl's the store.
dan friesen
Talking about the bar here in Chicago.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Are they having an Easter sale?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
I would hope so.
It's still going on.
No, you go into a clothing store and it's like, hey, these are 50% off.
Or a mattress store.
It's always 30% off.
dan friesen
At every mattress store.
jordan holmes
At every mattress store.
I've never seen anybody buy a mattress.
dan friesen
They're constantly going out of business.
jordan holmes
I've never seen anyone buy a mattress.
dan friesen
The mattress store that's over by the Target here in Chicago has been going out of business for six years.
It's insane.
Yeah, I mean, it's just scams.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a scam.
But, you know, Alex, in this first clip, he's doing his plugging.
And I would describe this as victim plugging.
He just acts like a big old victim.
alex jones
Infowars.com forward slash show.
Spread that link.
Spread our videos.
Spread our articles.
Please know that you're having a huge effect.
Double down the face of tyranny.
They've jumped the shark.
They really are going for broke.
If they don't get their censorship in place, which they're moving forward with, if we block it, if we expose it, if we have whistleblowers like the patriots that leaked from Google about Infowars being censored, it'll blow up in their face.
And we are the new counterculture.
We are the avant-garde.
You, just the questioners of the authoritarian system, the pro-free speech people, you're the classical liberals, the paleo-conservatives.
And so they've miscalculated.
unidentified
I don't know what the fuck he's talking about there.
alex jones
It's game over, man, to quote Mr. Paxson that just passed last month.
Game over!
Is it game over for us or them?
They've miscalculated.
They've miscalculated Royale.
Royale.
So...
Support us, please.
Pray for us.
Buy the products.
That's how we mainly fund ourselves, as they cut off our advertising like they did with O 'Reilly.
jordan holmes
They didn't cut off...
Okay.
dan friesen
That end there is also, like, bad.
Because O 'Reilly got his advertisers pulled because they had a crisis of conscience and couldn't support.
Someone who is a sexual harasser and a serial.
jordan holmes
Let's not give them credit for having a conscience.
They had a crisis of people were mad at them.
dan friesen
Right, but that prompted a crisis of conscience, whether or not it's sincere or not.
jordan holmes
It prompted AIDS.
dan friesen
But by corollary, Alex Jones being like, they're pulling our sponsors like they pulled his.
Are you saying that you committed a crime?
Is that what's going on?
What do you think is happening here, Alex?
You got ad rule taken away because you violated their terms of service.
That's not a crime.
jordan holmes
So what he thinks is happening, because a lot of shit has gone spectacularly bad for him.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Very quickly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He has to assume that it is all connected.
dan friesen
Well, it is.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
It's all connected to him being a propagandist liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I don't think it's...
I don't think as much of that bad stuff is...
dan friesen
It's all connected to mistakes he's made for 20 years.
jordan holmes
Yes!
That's what I would say.
dan friesen
It's the chickens roosting, as it were.
They've come home.
And so it is connected in that sense.
But Adroll is not connected to his custody hearing, which isn't connected to...
Google...
Accurately recognizing that Alex Jones is constantly debunked.
jordan holmes
Right.
And so not giving him- Because as we all know, Google accurately recognizing that he's constantly debunked is connected to his hip bone.
dan friesen
Which is connected to the globalist bone.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Which is also like, hey dude, if you want to say you have journalistic integrity, fire Jerome Corsi.
unidentified
That guy is the worst.
jordan holmes
And hang up that goddamn painting!
dan friesen
That's Rappaport.
But also, Alex, Tell Rappaport to hang up that painting.
You know the guy.
Also, I actually want to do...
jordan holmes
That would be my favorite.
If there was that Skype interview where Alex is just like, Hey, Rappaport, hang up that fucking painting.
dan friesen
Hey, this is a professional operation.
Get your shit together, asshole.
jordan holmes
Fucking groom your beard, too.
You look like shitty Saruman.
dan friesen
I want to do an episode sometime in the future about how it's become very clear to me.
That John Rappaport, when he does his reports, is using sort of a hypnotic suggestion techniques.
He's using, the way he speaks is very intentionally, like, hypnotic.
I've noticed a couple things that he does that are like, that is not a mistake, you're doing this on purpose.
And if people aren't paying attention, it would be very easy to get lulled into like a, oh yeah, kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
That might be coming.
I also want to do a special report about how I've realized...
That Alex Jones' career very closely mirrors that of the rap group Jedi Mind Tricks.
So I'm...
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
I've got these in the works.
jordan holmes
Only you could possibly make that connection.
dan friesen
I've got these in the works, and if you'd like these to come to fruition, please donate to our Patreon.
unidentified
Don't!
jordan holmes
Don't say it!
Don't say it!
dan friesen
We're in the middle of him plugging.
unidentified
Jesus Christ!
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's such...
You're committing...
dan friesen
It's my birthday.
I can get away with this.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
One day a year.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Just like The Purge.
dan friesen
We got a birthday sale going on over here.
jordan holmes
Once again, all visits to our website are 100% off.
dan friesen
I would also like to say that Alex's Easter sale that he was promoting, like, his commercial was, like, I am going to commit blasphemy against the globalists by having a Christian holiday sale.
We're celebrating a Christian holiday.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah.
Nothing says celebrating a Christian holiday more than...
Blatant capitalism.
dan friesen
Yeah, but then also, I think he was expecting people to get mad or something like that, but everyone was just like, whatever.
jordan holmes
Like the Starbucks cup.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was expecting a war on Christmas coming out of this, and it just didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, everybody does the war on Easter.
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
Yeah, no one cared.
It was so pathetic.
Just have your fucking Christian sale.
I don't care.
No one cares.
Do your fucking thing.
Sell your bone sauce.
jordan holmes
Bone sauce is red.
Never mind.
dan friesen
We had to change it from bone pills to bone sauce to be a little more accurate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it's a powder that you put in water and then you make your bone sauce.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
And apparently it tastes like chocolate and Millie Weaver is into it.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
These are things I've learned.
jordan holmes
That?
What?
unidentified
Wait.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Millie Weaver likes it because it tastes like chocolate.
But she's a squeamish eater and she's like, I don't think I would have wanted to eat bone broth.
But hey, it tastes great.
It tastes great.
Tastes like chocolate.
Also, I learned...
jordan holmes
Is it just hot chocolate?
dan friesen
Basically.
Also, I learned that Rob Dew and Owen Schroyer play basketball together, and that now that Owen Schroyer's 27, his dogs are starting to bark after they play basketball, so he takes some of that bone broth.
Everything is cool.
jordan holmes
Why are you sharing this information with me?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Once again!
Once every time we do this show, I live in a worse world.
That's what you're doing to me.
You're destroying my views on how...
dan friesen
Gleefully.
So this next clip is, I think, a bigger issue.
jordan holmes
I drink bone sauce because sometimes my knees hurt after a basketball game.
dan friesen
Thank you, Owen.
jordan holmes
Try some bone sauce.
dan friesen
Also, what kind of competition are you getting out of Rob Dew out there on the court?
Please.
Anyway, this next clip, Alex Jones is on real thin ice.
Real thin ice with this plug.
Because he is referencing somebody that...
Just don't talk about these people publicly at this point.
It's not his ex-wife or anything, or his kids.
But it is like, dude, chill.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Chill out.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Is it Michael Jackson's doctor?
alex jones
Hey, you know what?
jordan holmes
Michael Jackson died because he had too many vaccines.
That's what his doctor told me.
dan friesen
Connie was a good man.
So here we go.
alex jones
Please support us.
Infowarsstore.com.
A lot of big specials.
New specials.
About today, I'm told.
Incredible products.
I was just talking to my lawyer the other day, Randall Wilhite, one of the top guys in Texas.
And he said, listen, I've been to the...
He gave me permission to say this, by the way.
I didn't mean to just plug, but I'm going to go ahead and do it.
unidentified
He said, I've been to the...
alex jones
You know, a UT sleep specialist, also a UT professor.
I've been to everybody.
I can't sleep for years.
It's incredible.
I'm a workaholic.
I don't even drink coffee because it might make me not sleep.
He goes, I took your knockout formula.
And he said, I've done everything, tested the drugs, you name it, none of it worked.
And he said, it absolutely reset my brain.
He looks like he's 10 years younger, literally.
And he said, this totally changed my world.
Why is it so much better than when I just bought melatonin at the store?
And I said, I figured if we just took melatonin, L, tryptophan, uh, Valerian root and all these other key things that are known as natural and healthy and organic sources of this that have been known for thousands of years to aid in sleep.
Lemon balm, chamomile, all of it together.
At the normal, safe dosages of each one, all supercharged together.
That would be absolutely explosive and would give people amazing sleep.
And he said, yeah, it's changed my life.
I want to come on here and endorse it.
So, I'm telling you, knockout's $19.95.
unidentified
Ladies and gentlemen, it should be $50.
alex jones
One bottle of Bellatonna of the same strength is $19.95.
We have the same dose in there, and then everything else you need, and it's all organic.
But absolutely no fillers.
Just understand that that's why we're such game changers.
We do the research.
We do the research to bring you the products that nobody else will do with the top scientists, you name it, top producers.
Personally, I came up with a knockout and then worked with others to pick the best sources.
But I'm really, really proud of it.
It was just some little side issue that I thought sometimes I mix valerian with melatonin.
It really works good together.
I said, what if we add everything together?
I checked with the experts to make sure none of it interacted wrong.
And they were just like, oh, my God, still consult your physician.
Knockout available in fullwarstore.com.
Infowarstore.com.
unidentified
Changing people's lives, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
Don't bring up your lawyer.
unidentified
He said his lawyer loves his...
jordan holmes
Herbal bullshit.
His fucking cauldron with every witch, like, worm root and fucking all of these different random shit that he just boiled in there and fucking stirred it around and was like, this shit is amazing.
dan friesen
Let me do my impression of his lawyer, how I think it went.
Oh, yeah, I've tried.
That's great.
unidentified
Trying to just avoid the question, I imagine.
dan friesen
Also, just don't fucking bring up your lawyer.
Don't do it.
When you're in the middle of a sales pitch, don't do it.
Don't do it.
You're on thin ice right now.
jordan holmes
Also, it would have been awesome to find out that his lawyer was in the car with him the whole time.
That would have been amazing.
And then his lawyer just comes in like, hey, he's right, I tried this knockout shit.
Anyways, we gotta get to the court.
dan friesen
Or the flip side of it, the lawyer's in the car, he's like, dude, dude, what are you doing?
So I pulled up the ingredient list in knockout.
And it's no different than...
I'm a guy who has some sleep troubles, and so I've explored a lot of products that you can get at any fucking Walgreens.
jordan holmes
Have you tried Knockout?
dan friesen
I haven't, because I'll never give him any money.
But, like, it has no different ingredients, really, than most over-the-counter herbal sleep remedies.
And they're not $50.
jordan holmes
What are they?
dan friesen
They're about maybe $10.
jordan holmes
About the same.
dan friesen
No, maybe half.
jordan holmes
Oh, half of what he's charging.
dan friesen
Well, also, the list price is $30.
jordan holmes
But again, 30% off.
dan friesen
And he's discounted down $10.
His thing is actually more expensive than a lot of the stuff that I've seen at places.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's sourced these himself.
He had the brilliant idea of, what if I threw a bunch of shit together?
Is it a pill?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, so what if...
dan friesen
It's not bone broth.
jordan holmes
What if I grind up a bunch of bone broth and put it into a pill?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
That'll work.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Now, I gotta work with people to find all of these ingredients, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
So my guess is, he just buys other people's pills.
Opens him up, puts different shit in there.
dan friesen
Well, as we know, he's already copped to the fact that his super blue toothpaste is just Tom's of Maine toothpaste with a couple ingredients added.
jordan holmes
Yeah, with iodine.
dan friesen
He does this...
jordan holmes
It's the iodine.
That's what does it.
dan friesen
Private labeling stuff.
So I wouldn't be surprised if this was just some...
You know, nature's best.
jordan holmes
No, that's a thing that happens all the time.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And I mean, that's how you get those generic brands of NyQuil and stuff like that.
It's essentially the same things.
But...
jordan holmes
It just doesn't have the same...
dan friesen
Doesn't have the brand name.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It often has some of the...
Flavor-y things taken away.
jordan holmes
Which is, it is insane that the placebo effect does work to the point where you think brand names work better than the exact same shit.
dan friesen
Every single time.
I'm like, I'm not getting this bullshit.
I'm getting the real one.
jordan holmes
It's the same thing.
It's the same fucking shit, but your brain goes, well, this is obviously better.
dan friesen
Human brains are intensely stupid.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That's what we're learning.
Anyway, we have one more clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is his outro.
And it gets...
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
He's turned off his car.
dan friesen
He's parked.
jordan holmes
He's got the turn signal off.
dan friesen
I don't know why he had to make sure that this audio that he was sending in is as long as his drive.
I don't know why that's the case.
jordan holmes
Because, I mean, it's a long drive.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, his drive is over.
He's gotten to court.
And he gets into...
I would say that this dismount is clunky.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And very God-heavy.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So here we go.
alex jones
Back to Paul Joseph Watson and our amazing crew in Austin, Texas.
Please pray for us.
We have never been under a more serious attack.
And that is because we are the tip of the spear.
We're having an amazing, amazing effect.
And we're backed by the people.
That's the globalist Achilles heel.
We're backed by the people.
And that's why, even though they took our sponsors over the years, most of them, and harassed them and shot us off Google Ads and did everything to us or AdRoll.
Despite all of that, we are here thriving.
We're moving forward.
So now they've gone to higher levels of persecution.
But like Christ said, if you love me and follow me and try to be a good, loving person and help others, the world will hate you.
And so this is a great sign of where we are.
Thank you all so much.
I humble myself before God.
I humble myself before my family, the listeners, everybody else.
And I just seek God's face.
And again, I want to thank the amazing crew there in Austin and everything they do.
I just love our crew and I love our listeners.
Thank you.
dan friesen
So that's the end of it.
If you go by the end of Revelation, He technically just blasphemed.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, because the final commandment at the end of Revelation is you can't add anything or take away anything from the Bible, and if you have, you've committed a great heresy.
Which is cool.
I mean, that's what you'd want to do if you were building a system.
Like, nope, this is it.
Nothing else.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, by paraphrasing the Bible like that to sort of...
He's exploiting it in order to build up his own persecution.
He's just added context to the Bible and shit like that.
That's absolutely against the Bible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know if you've ever met a Christian before.
dan friesen
They do that a lot.
jordan holmes
They're not big fans of the Bible.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Turns out the Bible, ugh.
dan friesen
Yeah, the Bible is problematic.
jordan holmes
Gross.
There's a lot of shit going on there.
I'm not a fan.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's tough to defend most of the stuff in it.
But anyway, you see there, that's exploitation at the end.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
It's total exploitation.
I love you all.
I look for God's face.
jordan holmes
Is seeking God's face, is that a thing?
dan friesen
Yeah, I remember that from my church days.
I definitely remember people saying that.
jordan holmes
So you have a face?
dan friesen
A metaphorical face?
jordan holmes
A metaphorical face?
dan friesen
Like a rock face?
Like a cliff face?
jordan holmes
Like The Rock's face?
Like Dwayne Johnson?
It's a good face.
dan friesen
Goddammit, I still haven't seen Fast and Furious.
jordan holmes
I know, me neither.
dan friesen
Let's go.
Now.
Let's leave.
Now.
So yeah, we've come to the end, and I want to take a moment to reflect a tiny bit.
I really don't think that we got a concise assessment of Bill O 'Reilly.
jordan holmes
Oh, we didn't?
dan friesen
I really don't think that he made any point other than to muddy the waters and say that what this really is about is the globalists trying to take him down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he got what he wanted out of it.
He got the opportunity to puff his chest out at Bill O 'Reilly's expense.
dan friesen
He cucked him out.
jordan holmes
Yep.
And there's also that little bit of petty, like, hey, Bill O 'Reilly's gone, guess who's left, baby?
dan friesen
A lot bit petty.
jordan holmes
It's AJ.
AJ's still sticking around.
I have more listeners than you, and you failed at your radio show.
Do you know what you're famous for?
One clip where you said the F word.
One clip!
That's all you got, Bill O 'Reilly?
dan friesen
I don't disagree with Alex entirely on that.
jordan holmes
No.
And then he...
...gets to throw in some Islamophobia, which that's what he has to do.
He's got to put that narrative out there.
dan friesen
That's his stock and trade.
jordan holmes
Especially now.
Especially now that we're seeing all of these tensions arise with people who aren't Islamic, who aren't followers of Islam.
He has to get that narrative out there to distract away from things.
And then what else did he say?
He said some full-on bullshit there.
dan friesen
Megyn Kelly shit.
jordan holmes
Megyn Kelly, why are you talking shit about this?
I did it!
dan friesen
I did it!
jordan holmes
It was my idea.
My idea was throw a bunch of shit together.
dan friesen
And also do the whataboutism with liberals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
They're the real pedophiles.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Hold on.
It's not even the conversation.
jordan holmes
And we're always under attack.
dan friesen
But, throughout it all, what's most important is that he has a full-on understanding of Philip K. Dick.
And that he is a fucking policy wonk.
He's really getting down to the substance of what's going on here.
He's really in the weeds about this Bill O 'Reilly situation.
jordan holmes
He's got it.
dan friesen
He has facts?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He has...
jordan holmes
Which one?
dan friesen
Bill O 'Reilly's a thug.
unidentified
There we go.
jordan holmes
I'll actually take that one.
He's a bully and a thug.
I'm in.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
dan friesen
You didn't need to do 15 minutes.
You could have said that.
jordan holmes
Bill O 'Reilly sucks!
Anyways, back to PJW in the studio.
dan friesen
Fuck you, Alex.
Good luck in court this week, Alex.
I know that it's going to be all week.
I'm not looking forward to seeing hot takes about that and everybody reminding me on Twitter.
Everybody's fucking tweeting at me all these updates.
I know.
I'm watching.
I see all of it.
So yeah, like I said, it is this fine line we walk.
I sincerely hope that You know, it ends well.
jordan holmes
It should end the way any custody battle would.
Whatever's best for the fucking kids, which apparently nobody gives a shit about.
dan friesen
That has sort of been our central thought.
jordan holmes
Nobody gives a shit about them!
dan friesen
Anyway, you guys can find us at knowledgefight.com.
We have a couple of new pieces up there.
We have a new lie, a new entry in the lie files.
jordan holmes
Yes, we do.
dan friesen
And then a new entry in the Alex Jones biography.
So please go check in that.
Actually, two new entries in the biography.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
We're getting close.
We're getting close there.
dan friesen
Not even close.
jordan holmes
We're almost done.
We almost got the full picture.
unidentified
Well.
jordan holmes
Six-year-old kicked off his mom's knee.
dan friesen
That is the full picture.
We've already got that.
jordan holmes
Pretty much finished that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Biography done.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You can also subscribe to us on iTunes.
unidentified
Please.
jordan holmes
Guys, thank you very much for finding us however you have and keep listening.
dan friesen
Yes, and you can find us on Twitter.
We just crossed the 100 Twitter followers barrier.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
We're in the big leagues now.
jordan holmes
When do we get that blue checkmark, huh?
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Huh, Twitter?
dan friesen
Yeah, you're not going to give it to Julian Assange.
You should give it to us.
Give us his blue checkmark.
We'll take him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll take him.
We'll be Julian Assange on Twitter.
We don't care.
dan friesen
So, yeah, you can find us at knowledge underscore fight.
I think you said that already on Twitter.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What else?
That's about it.
unidentified
What else?
jordan holmes
I think what else is you.
Let me ask you a question.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
If you were a type of wonk, what type would you be?
dan friesen
I'm a bone broth wonk.
No, I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
No, you're not a bone broth wonk.
You're a chocolate wonk.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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