Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey mock the "New Confederate States of America" proposal while dismissing racial trauma claims after John Davidson’s involuntary N-word slur at the BAFTA Awards, despite his Tourette’s diagnosis. Helen Andrews’ tweets on white flight in Cleveland (1967–2020s) contrast with Pope Leo’s focus on Spain’s "ultra-right" ideology over pedophilia or Islam. Judge Vivian Uruakpa’s 97% asylum approval rate highlights DOJ inconsistencies, while Minnesota’s FGM task force bill faces Somali community backlash. Philippe Janvier’s deportation after fraudulent citizenship revocation contrasts with leniency toward other Haitians. Safi Dawood’s asylum-to-murder case exposes Britain’s flawed vetting. Their newsletter and Sam Dixon collaboration aim to weaponize identity politics narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
Ladies and gentlemen, esteemed listeners, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
I'm your host, Jared Taylor.
And with me is my co-convener, none other than Paul Kersey.
Of course, you know, Mr. Kersey, co-convener.
I think that's got a nice ring to it, but if you're a co-convener, I should be the convener, right?
Not just the host.
You are the genesis of the convening.
I guess I'm the genesis.
But somehow convener sounds less cool than co-convener.
Anyway, we'll have to work this out.
In any case, let us begin with comments.
This one is, oh, really rather self-congratulatory, but I will read it anyway, despite my native modesty.
A commenter writes in to say, I propose a new nation.
And within that new nation, I nominate Jared Taylor to be the first president.
I also nominate the great Kevin Dean to be vice president and the honorable Paul Kersey as Secretary of State.
The nation could be called the new Confederate States of America, made up of like-minded white people from all over the United States and from nations beyond.
President Taylor's would be a lifelong appointment, unless he chose to step down, and successors would be appointed by the president.
I've designed a flag, which I will send to Paul Kersey's email since I can't attach it here.
I propose this nation to start immediately, and may the white renaissance prosper.
Well, we can always dream, can't we?
Did you get the flag, by the way?
I did.
The flag is quite good.
It's actually in the attachment that I sent you.
So you should be able to watch it.
Oh, gosh, I should see it waving.
Yeah, it looks nice.
Okay, well, I'm not sure I like this idea of appointments for life.
And if the president can appoint his successor, seems to me there's a certain possibility for corruption and nepotism there.
But thank you for this vote of confidence in the people who work for American Renaissance.
Commenter, thank you very much.
Another comment.
Here's a piece of good news for you.
Just last year, I was teaching an after-school program called First Robotics in Michigan.
I can confirm to you that at least half the students I worked with were very correctly informed about race relations, racial science, and IQ differences, and about our greatest ally in the Middle East.
The youth these days have learned a great deal from social media, Instagram in particular, about realities that many in the older generations cannot accept.
The future is bright, and your work in this is well received.
Thank you.
And your co-convener, as he calls you.
I love this podcast.
I love the fact that it's catching on.
Yes, co-convener, co-convener.
Well, gosh, Instagram.
They're getting it from Instagram.
I don't think I've ever put anything on Instagram.
Do you have an Instagram account, Mr. Kersey?
Tourette's and Trauma00:08:26
I do not.
No.
Well, boy, that seems to be where the young people are learning things, but apparently they're learning the right things.
So whether we're there or not, things are going our way.
Well, that in TikTok, real quick, I've actually seen people who are clipping some of your interviews and podcasts you've done and or videos you put out, sir.
And they've clipped them and put them on Instagram.
And I've seen also that they've obviously been put on TikTok.
And that is creating, it's a whole ecosystem that podcasts don't touch anymore.
That you, of course, being a huge fan of the written word, no one reads articles that much anymore.
I know.
It's very sad.
Dead form.
However, there is a vibrant market that just will digest anything that they see on these platforms.
And your videos are definitely being recycled.
Well, in a snipped form, which is maybe all anyone has attention span for these days.
And I find myself, if I'm on X, for example, my attention span narrows very considerably.
I'm looking for something that's quick, something I can understand in no time at all.
If I got to spend more than about 30 or 40 seconds understanding an X post, I am tempted to move on.
Depending on what you're looking at, your attention span narrows drastically.
Fortunately, I still like to read books, but that seems to have gone way out of fashion for certain of the younger generation.
In any case, let us move on to the BAFTA Awards.
That is the British equivalent of the Oscars, and those are the awards that are presented by the British Academy of Film and Television Arts.
Well, last time it was given, just a few days ago, a member of the audience suddenly yelled the N-word.
And I beg your pardon?
Neighbor.
Neighbor.
That's right.
The N-word.
This visibly stunned Michael B. Jordan and Del Roy Lindo, who are black and who were at the podium.
As it turns out, the slur was shouted by a Tourette's sufferer, Tourette's syndrome, a fellow by the name of John Davidson, age 54, campaigner for those living with this disability.
He was in attendance because the film I Swear, that's really a nice name for the film, by the way, it was up for five prizes, and it's inspired by his experience.
However, the appalled and often unsympathetic reaction to his outburst suggests that understanding of Tourette's may have some way to go.
I suspect, especially in the black community, as they call it.
In the film I Swear, Davidson is portrayed by a breakout Hull-born star, Hull being a town in Great Britain, by the name of Robert Aramayo, who won the BAFTA for Best Actor in a surprise victory over Hollywood giants such as Leonard Leonardo DiCaprio.
Interestingly enough, it wasn't even Davidson, this is the Tourette guy, his first outburst of the night.
He could also be heard shouting, shut the F up, during the introductory speech from BAFTA chairman Sarah Putt.
And contrary to reports in the U.S. media, BAFTA attendees had been warned that this guy might cut loose and say something inappropriate because of his condition.
Moreover, the BBC failed to edit out the N-word when it broadcast the ceremony on BBC One two hours later.
And it included the word the footage uploaded to its streaming platform, iPlayer.
This meant that millions of viewers turning into the BBC were treated to this word until under mounting pressure, the broadcaster edited out the comic.
I guess that means they had kind of a little clip, a little jump in the video.
In any case, disability activists rallied behind Davidson, who developed the condition when he was 12 years old.
They argue his tics are involuntary, and crucially, that the nature of Tourette's is often such that sufferers say the most offensive thing possible at any moment.
Now, that would be an awkward thing, wouldn't it?
Gee.
I actually didn't know that aspect of Tourette's.
Whenever you see it in films, sir, or I've never encountered it from anyone that I've ever been around in activity.
No, I've never known anyone.
Or maybe they were, but I just thought that was their natural condition.
But boy, say you're on a date and you're with a really attractive girl and golly, who knows what you might just burst out and say.
It could be awkward.
But apparently, examples of his saying awkward things at awkward times, when Davidson's car was being searched by the police, when he was invited to Buckingham Palace in 2019, he yelled, a bomb!
I've got an effing bomb.
And this is great.
When he met Elizabeth II, the queen, Her Majesty himself, he screamed, F the Queen, except it wasn't F.
The three asterisks were actually spelled out.
Good grief.
I bet that's the first and only time Queen Elizabeth had those words shouted to her to her face.
Left-wing campaigners appeared unable to work out whose side to take.
That of Davidson, a working-class white man who suffers from a lifelong disability, or the side of the black millionaire actors.
Broadcaster Narender Kaur, whoever he is, he wrote, we can all understand that Davidson has a condition, but this is subjecting Jordan and Lindo, the black people who are on stage, to racial trauma, Mr. Kersey.
Racial trauma.
Everyone understands that's unacceptable at every level.
Racial trauma.
Boy, oh boy.
Is there anything that could be shouted at you, Mr. Kersey, that could cause racial trauma?
I can't think of anything.
Absolutely not.
Nothing offends me in this world.
And I mean that.
Well, I mean, we can be offended and we can be angry.
And, well, we can think that someone has said something absolutely absurd and stupid, but it's certainly not going to be racial.
It's not going to be any kind of trauma, what somebody said to you, but I guess black people are particularly susceptible to trauma.
Maybe, sir, when someone calls a ball that was obviously in out when you're playing tennis or pickleball.
Right.
That does upset me because then you lose trust in them.
And when you're playing somebody, you have to have trust in that, your opponent, or else you question every shot that they call in or out.
That might be it.
Very good.
Very good.
Yes.
Of course, that's hardly racial trauma unless it was a person.
You thought he was a racial comrade.
He turns out to be somebody you can't trust.
But be that as it may.
If it was a person of color who made that call, then I'd cast aspersions and they'd be stereotyped immediately.
And he would be traumatized.
Any case, Davidson, he finally, after it was all over, he said, I am and always have been deeply mortified if anyone considers my involuntary tics to be intentional or to carry meaning.
I have spent my life trying to support and empower the Tourette's community and to teach empathy, kindness, and understanding.
Well, I guess you don't always get it, particularly if you're white.
But no, I've never met anyone with Tourette's syndrome.
I've never known anyone who'd met a person with Tourette's syndrome.
No, I've always thought it was kind of a kind of an astonishing thing, sort of hard to believe, that you suddenly just come out with the rudest, most awful thing that would occur to you, and you do it involuntarily.
Very strange.
Anyway, Mr. Kersey, you have a story about the great Helen Andrews, who seems to me to be on her way to becoming a national treasure, almost at the level of Helen of Heather McDonnell.
I'm really, really impressed with these ladies who are going to bat for goodness, truth, and beauty.
Yeah, Helen Andrews, excuse me, for our audience who might be unfamiliar, she is the former editor of the American Conservative.
She's the author of a book, Boomers, the Men and Women Who Promise Freedom and Deliver Disaster.
Now, I myself am a millennial, and we've had conversations about this.
Blaming Boomers?00:14:37
I think blaming the boomers for everything is a cop-out because boomers were born into a country that, again, 1948, Shelly Kramer, they had nothing to do with.
They had to live with the consequences of it.
Well, and I really think it's unfair to blame Brown v. Board.
When did boomers really begin to have any effect on politics?
Probably not until maybe, what, 1968, 70.
I don't know.
Well, no, no, because boomers are basically people who were born, what, right after this, right after World War II?
Right after World War II.
Between the 60s.
So 45 to say 62.
So 45, if you're 20 years old, that's not at 20 years old, maybe you begin to start affecting the country.
So that's 1965.
So everything that happened before 1965, you shouldn't blame us.
But I do have to confess, as a certified, genuine boomer, that we certainly made things worse.
We should have turned the ship around, but we failed.
We just stoked the boilers and we said full steam ahead, ran it into one iceberg after another.
And it's up to you, poor guys, to bail the ship out and make sure it stays afloat.
Oh, there's still time to rectify those inequities, sir.
So Helen Andrews at Twitter, she's one of the forces on X. You can follow her at her Andrews.
And she did this incredible tweet.
She does this quite often.
She did this not that long ago about this book that talked about America's roller coaster history, sir.
And it talked about how after integration, so many amusement parks around the country vanished.
They just closed because with integration, you could no longer have Freedom of Association.
You couldn't keep certain individuals out.
And there were a lot of co-conveners of disruption, dysfunction, and degradation.
And so amusement parks, due to the racial demographic changes of the clientele, just closed.
As we learned in Prince George's County, Six Flags Over Georgia closed.
I'm sorry, Six Flags there in Maryland.
It closed this year.
It's done.
It's one of the flagship locations.
But anyways, go ahead.
You know, when it comes to amusement parks, so one of my daughters was a real roller coaster fan.
And so we drove all around.
We drove up to Hercy Park.
We drove to Six Flags.
I can't remember all the different places we went.
But there is no question about it.
You have a very rowdy black contingent that makes everything unpleasant, cutting in line, running around, screaming, making themselves extremely disagreeable.
And you hear about all these terrible fights they get into and the ones that haven't closed.
Disney World, for example, Epcot.
It's, well, anybody who just who can watch Instagram, probably, any of these feeds with little videos from all around the country, all around the world, really, you get a very, very clear picture of why those parks closed.
Anyway.
Oh, it's pro heaven or hell, depending on how you look at it, and depending which plebe class you might find yourself being a participant in.
I don't like going to amusement parks anymore unless someone has decided to rent out the location venue so that it's all amount of people.
The other thing I must say, though, is we would go in the summertime, people wearing shorts and halter tops.
And boy, there are a lot of white People with tattoos.
They don't run around and screech and cut in line and push and pull and throw drinks around the way blacks do.
But I must say they are pretty tatted up.
Yeah, probably the nicest.
I don't know if you ever get to go to it, but Bush Gardens in Williamsburg is one of the more civilized amusement parks in the country.
And they've got some great rides, actually.
I've never been, but I was interrupting you.
The great Helen Andrews.
Yeah.
So what Helen Andrews does is she'll find these articles and she'll just post the image from the original publication and then she'll do a long deep dive into what is discussed in the article.
And this one comes from the New York Times magazine from January 24th, 1971.
And she notes that the article is on white flight from a journalist who grew up in a Slovak neighborhood of Cleveland in the early 50s and returned after Carl Stokes was elected the first black mayor in 1967.
Mr. Taylor, I'm going to put you on the spot real quick.
Another city elected its first black mayor in 1967, and it's taken a far more precipitous decline than has Cleveland.
I'm guessing that was Detroit.
Nope, but Coleman Young would not be elected till 1973.
I'm different than Newark.
Maybe Newark?
No, close.
Close.
Uh-oh.
I give up.
Gary, Indiana.
Oh, that's not even close.
Not even close.
No, Gary, Indiana.
The title of this article was, It's Not So Much Fun to Go Home Again as the Blacks Move In, The Ethnics Move Out by Paul Wilkes.
And just doing a quick little dive into this story, Helen Andrews notes that the author wrote, The old ladies of the church were getting beaten and robbed on their way to early mass, so we stopped those.
We had a lot of trouble with school children being beaten.
I guess you heard about the eighth-grade girl who was raped by four boys from the Audubon.
Joe had been warned the neighborhood was changing, that five merchants or property owners had been killed during holdups in the last few years.
His response was, Who would want to hurt me?
Anyhow, they can take the money.
I'll learn more.
His tire gauge had deflected a bullet, but his skull had been crushed in a remorseless beating.
Had the priest mentioned Joe Toke's murder, which shook the neighborhood from the pulpit, I wouldn't want to pinpoint the problem.
He says, My duty in these troubled times is to encourage the souls under my direction that we are in a changing world.
I never mention black from the pulpit, but I always talk about accepting them.
The article would go on to say, the solution, the pastor said more than once, is more police protection.
My duty in these troubled times, as I said, encourage the change happens.
We haven't visited the homes of these new people to ask them to join.
They knew about the church.
They hear about it from their neighbors.
We have a few blacks who attend.
In a neighborhood that is 20% black, with the percentage rising weekly, one Negro family is on the parish rolls.
Unfortunately, Joe Toke would be slayed.
He was killed during a holdup at a police station.
At a police station?
Sorry, at a service station he had run for 40 years.
Had his murder been mentioned from the pulpit?
No.
My own judgment tells me it was best not to mention him.
And Father Michael hesitated before saying, with no hint of expression on his face, I wouldn't want to pinpoint the problem.
That's the problem, isn't it?
We won't pinpoint the problem.
That was also before the days of concealed carry being broadly available.
And so the white people did what white people always do.
They don't dig in their heels.
They don't fight.
And they moved away.
Yeah, two more really great lines from this Helen Andrews tweet store that she did.
The Catholic school built a cafeteria because none of the kids were allowed to walk home for lunch anymore.
A mentally retarded boy whose joy was a paper route had to give it up after his collections were stolen.
Somebody's delicatessen closed between 2.30 and 4 each afternoon to avoid harassment from Audubon students.
Local cop, I was off duty the other day and I walked into a bar on Buckeye and kiddingly, you know, like Dodge City or something, I said, okay, you guys, all the hardware on the bar.
There were five guys in there.
Four pulled out guns.
I'm a bigot and I know it, but arming isn't the way.
These people are going to get these guns rammed right up their own butts someday, he said, in regards to what life was like now for these individuals who cling to the past and yet were still trying to maintain safety for themselves and their families.
It's just a very good idea.
It's hard to read this.
I just made a fool of myself saying they weren't armed.
I guess they armed themselves anyway, but still they moved out.
Wow.
Well, you know, it's remarkable that that was what, 1971, you said?
New York Times.
Four years after Carl Stokes, and Carl Stokes was a very divisive mayor.
If you know much about Cleveland, it's really sad to see.
I don't think Cleveland has been profiled yet in the great replacement series at Amrin, but it's about 37% white now when it was, goodness gracious, in the 1920s, I want to say it was 98% white when the Rockefellers were boasting some of the highest numbers of millionaires in the country per capita.
Well, it has an old downtown that is almost, well, I was there maybe 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it was completely deserted at night.
It's got a lovely, I hate to say it, a Yankee monument to the Yankees right downtown.
All of these, I think they're separate memorials to the Navy and to the cavalry and to the Army.
Really a beautiful memorial.
And I think it's Euclid Drive.
It is.
It's Euclid Avenue.
That's right.
All the beautiful mansions that were on there.
Clearly, it was a wonderful place in its time, but it has just been smashed by the black invasion, like so many downtowns, so many cities.
It was one of the first cities that started to see its skyline rise to the heavens.
And a lot of the individuals in New York City got jealous of that.
So there was an arms race, if you will, between Chicago, Cleveland, and New York.
I forgot what the really famous tower is called in Cleveland.
Oh, goodness, municipal.
Anyways, that was built in the 30s, late 20s or early 30s at the time that the Christs were building Empire Staple were going up.
Just like a lot of these cities, you realize, God, in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s, this was a world-class city.
As so many were, as so many were.
The housing stock, the entire texture of downtown, all of these things were destroyed by integration.
And it's remarkable that in 1971, the New York Times magazine, of all publications, was writing so accurately and so poignantly about this.
It would never do an article like that.
Never, never.
They'd slit their wrist before they would allow something like that to be published today.
That's a remarkable candor.
But is there more that Helen Andrews quoted?
That's actually it.
She did about six tweets.
It's an article worth going back and reading for yourselves, ladies and gentlemen.
Again, the title is As the Blacks Move In, the Ethnics Move Out by Paul Wilkes, New York Times magazine, January 24th, 1971.
And because I never want to fail to get everything right, the tower is called the Terminal Tower.
It is a gorgeous Gothic-looking structure in Cleveland.
The Terminal Tower.
Golly, it sounds a little bit daunting to me, but maybe there was a ferry terminal.
In any case, well, let's move on to Italy.
And Pope Leo.
Pope Leo, I consider him to be a post-Catholic, post-Christian pope.
He's the Pope of gay race communism, as some people are fond of saying.
I like that.
Well, on November 17th, although we're only hearing about it now, nine Spanish bishops who make up the executive commission of the Episcopal Conference of Spain went to the Vatican for their first meeting with the new Pope.
And the Pope surprised them by making his priorities clear right from the start.
He said, his greatest concern at the moment in Spain is the ideology of the ultra-right.
It's not pedophiles in the church.
It's not the rise of Islam.
It's not declining church membership.
None of those things, Mr. Kersey.
It's the ideology of the ultra-right.
The Pope told the Spanish prelates that those on the right, quote, seek to win the Catholic vote.
Well, yes, they do.
And they use the church.
This message has since marked the lines the Pope wants the Spanish episcopate to follow in the face of parties such as Vox and conservative groups against, who are against the reception and regularization of immigrants.
Regularization is European lingo for legalizing the illegals.
And so days later, on the 27th of November, the bishops supported the plan to regularize these illegals.
This plan was harshly attacked by Vox.
The church, it should be noted, has been one of the institutions that has put the most pressure in recent years to make this change and to regularize the status of more than half a million illegals.
Vox has reacted by saying the entire church oligarchy hates the Spanish people.
And that was in reaction to a video published by the church supporting illegals.
The church then said that Vox and the people of Vox are the ideological heirs of Francoism, which use the same proclamations against the church.
And that should never be heard again in the history of Spain, especially in the mouths of so-called Catholics.
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In other words, if you want Spain to remain Spanish and Catholic for that matter, and that's a big part of it, you are a so-called Catholic.
As a matter of fact, Franco-era Spain never had a problem with illegal immigration.
So I don't quite know what they're saying about proclamations against the church.
Franco was a very staunch Catholic himself.
I don't know of any proclamations against the church that he made, but there are probably subtleties of Franco-era history of which I'm ignorant.
But the archbishop of Tarragona, Juan Planeas, also said that a xenophobe cannot be a true Christian.
Boy, that's laying it on the line.
That's laying it on the line.
You cannot be a true Christian if you want Spain to remain Spanish and Catholic.
Now, Pope Leo, he is pretty blunt about where his priorities lie.
He says this of immigrants.
Their presence should be recognized and appreciated as a true divine blessing, an opportunity to open oneself to the grace of God.
Is that the way you feel when you see Samavis and Haitians and Nicaraguans walking around your city, Mr. Kersey?
Not at all.
I was like, you are not a true Catholic then.
That's true, I'm not even a false Catholic.
I am not a papist.
I'm not a fake papist.
I'm not a pretend papist.
And he calls immigrants, these are his words, missionaries of hope or messengers of hope.
Their presence, I repeat, should be recognized and appreciated as a true divine blessing and an opportunity to open oneself to the grace of God.
When you see these people, I wonder what he'd think about hundreds, maybe thousands of them ass up doing their Muslim prayers in the middle of some square in front of a cathedral.
Would you call that?
How about St. Peter's Square?
Why?
Let's fill it with 10,000 Muzzies with their bottoms in the air.
Would he call that an opportunity to open oneself to the grace of God?
God, he might.
He might.
Anyway, that's the Pope for you.
And it's a terrible thing.
You have so many of these traditional Catholics all around Europe who really want to preserve their countries.
And they are fervent Catholics.
And then have a Pope like this in Rome, head of the church.
And that's, of course, why some of them are moving to Orthodoxy, the Orthodox patriarchs.
None of them jabber in this insane way.
But it's you really feel for people who have been Catholics all their lives, thought that Catholicism, the church, important part of their lives for generation after generation, then have to deal with a Pope like this and a guy who is, at least in some respects, American to boot.
Boy, what an embarrassment.
And remember, he's from an area.
I actually just was looking at that story that was published.
He's from that suburb of Cleveland that went from, I think, like 98% white to 2% white.
Is it called Dalton, Illinois?
I think that's.
Gosh, and he should know better.
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Some people never were.
Well, the Justice Department just axed New York's most lenient immigration court judge.
She was, and I suspect still is, Vivian Gordon Uruwakpa.
Yes, she ruled in favor of asylum claimants 97% of the time, more than any other judge on the bench.
Well, she was terminated with no fanfare and no public notice.
And as it turns out, and this is interesting, I didn't know about this, but I guess that's true in all court systems.
Migrants really roll the dice when they make some kind of immigration claim because they don't know what judge they're going to get.
And if they got Judge Vivian Gordon Uruwakpa, they hit the jackpot.
They had a really good chance of having their asylum claims recognized.
Now, her departure appears to be part of a massive culling of all the lenient judges.
Trump has fired more than 100 immigration judges during his term as deportation rates grow and while the border remains closed.
In the last quarter, Mr. Kersey, nearly 80% of migrants seeking asylum were deported.
So that was an acceptance rate of 20%.
She had an acceptance rate of 97%.
The toughest New York judge on asylum, John Burns, was named acting assistant chief judge in January, but now he has been replaced by a permanent guy.
He is a retired Marine Corps Colonel, Darren Margolin.
Margolin retired from being an immigration judge in early 2024 because he was revolted by what Biden was up to and the way Biden handled the Southern border surge.
He said, Personally, I felt like a co-conspirator in treason.
What a great line.
But now he's back and he is the head of the Executive Office of Immigration Review.
Now, the backlog in immigration cases over the last year under Trump fell by 341,006 cases.
341,000.
But the backlog still stands at.
Any idea what the number is?
39,000.
30?
No.
3,377,988.
Now, of those 3, nearly 400,000, 2,339,000 involve asylum.
And besides all of that, that doesn't even count the 200,000 cases that are on appeal.
They have worked their way through the courts and somebody, somebody who should have gotten the boot, that means 200,000 people who should have gotten the boot, would have gotten the boot, have hired some lawyer or they've gotten some kind of freebie volunteer, one of these anti-American free lawyers to launch an appeal.
So my estimate, sir, was not even at 20% of those that are on appeal.
That's right.
That's right.
They're on appeal.
Yep, 3,377,998.
That's the backlog.
That's the backlog.
Now, so beyond clearing the backlog, Margolin is also pushing to limit the appeals process, increasing the number of people who are eligible for swift deportation.
I think any illegal immigrant should be eligible.
Not just eligible, but required to undergo swift deportation.
Now, as it turns out, there's been the call for deportation judges or immigration judges, so-called, and there have been 1,700 applications after a media campaign asking people to sign up.
Now, you would not be eligible, I fear, Mr. Kersey, because you don't have a law degree.
You at least have to have a law degree.
But, I mean, you have the right attitude, but you don't have the right credentials.
Now, back to Judge Vivian Gordon Uruakpa, the one who approved 97% of her cases.
She is 66 years old, and she was appointed as an immigration judge in June of 2002 under George W. Bush, a Republican.
That means she has been busily approving asylum for 24 years, ever since 2002.
Shopping Cart Theories00:14:26
But she finally got the acts.
She got her law degree from Harvard.
No, Harvard.
Howard University School of Law.
Not quite the same thing, is it?
That was in 1984.
And she is married, believe it or not, to a Nigerian American.
And I took a look at her picture.
She looks like she could be Nigerian herself, and she is no oil paint.
But, Mr. Kersey, you have an interesting pair of stories about grocery store closings and shopping carts.
And I thought this is a very, very interesting addition to our little lineup of stories.
So do tell.
You and I have a curious habit of occasionally taking a look at the USA Today to see what the cover story is.
That is at the Gannett publishing empire has deigned an important story for the entire country.
That's still the paper with the largest circulation in the country, is it not?
It is.
I haven't traveled too much recently, so I haven't been at a hotel where every morning you wake up and open the door and there's a fresh USA Today greeting you, which, of course, artificially pumps up those numbers of subscribers.
But before we get started on this, I just want to read to you from 4chan.
Some of our listeners might be familiar with that website.
There's a great post called The Shopping Cart Theory.
And I'll be brief, but this is very important for the story I'm about to read.
The shopping cart theory is the ultimate litmus test, Mr. Taylor, for whether a person is capable of self-governing.
To return the shopping cart is an easy, convenient task, and one which we all recognize as the correct, appropriate thing to do.
Returning the shopping cart is objectively right.
There are no situations other than dire emergencies in which a person is not able to return their cart.
Simultaneously, it's not illegal to abandon your shopping cart.
Therefore, the shopping cart represents itself as the apex example of whether a person will do what is right without being forced to do it.
No one will punish you for not returning the shopping cart.
No one will fine you or kill you for not returning the shopping cart.
You gain nothing by returning the shopping cart.
But you must return the shopping cart out of the goodness of your own heart.
You must return the shopping cart because it's the right thing to do, because it's correct.
A person who is unable to do this is no better than an animal, an absolute savage who can only be made to do what is right by threatening them with the law and the force that stands behind it.
The shopping cart, dear sir, is what determines whether a person is a good or bad member of society.
Now, do you subscribe to the shopping cart theory?
I think certainly that's generally true.
That's generally true.
On the other hand, there are people who are paid to go around the parking lot and pick up the shopping carts.
Now, I always trot my shopping cart back to the collection area.
I think, yes.
And it looks to me, certainly where I live, almost everybody does that.
I'm not a connoisseur of certain duskier neighborhoods where that's perhaps less likely.
But yes, in general, nobody makes you do it.
But we all understand, we civilized people understand that if somebody had to run all the way around the park, if every single one was just left out, wow, what a job and a bother that would be.
Furthermore, you know, when they put these long trains of shopping carts together and push them back to, I mean, that would be kind of a parking hazard, it seems to me, if you're pushing those things all around all over the place.
But in any case, no, I generally agree.
Yes, that is the right.
I certainly do it without even thinking about it.
If I see a shopping cart ostracized from the shopping cart herd, I make sure to return it.
It's feeling lonely.
I don't want era shopping carts.
It's unsightly.
But anyways, what to my wondering eyes did appear on the cover of the USA Today for February 26, 2026, but a story of the growing crisis, sir, of the shopping of the errant shopping cart.
Laws across the nation promise a shopping cart crackdown.
I thought this had to be a joke cover, but it's not.
This is a real story.
As Julian Montague drove around Buffalo, New York, he noticed them everywhere.
Tipped over intersections, crushed by snowplows and parking lots, waiting alone at bus stops.
You can only imagine a shopping cart going onto a bus, I guess.
That's kind of a funny image.
Well, no, I guess what happens is you load up and you go to the bus stop and then you put your bags on the bus and leave the cart.
That's true.
That's what you do.
I'd imagine that's what you do.
Well, that's the rule in certain neighborhoods, I don't doubt.
But they got to take it back.
They got to get back on the bus and go back to the stop and go and then take the cart back.
Those are the rules.
Anyways, shopping carts had wandered away from their stores, wandered away from their stores.
Excuse me.
Montague, an artist, began photographing the wayward carts and eventually developed a complex classification system that sorted his sightings into more than 30 different categories.
The taxonomy of shopping cart complexity.
What the heck?
A lot of people, the shorthand for shopping carts, they think of homeless people appropriating them and using them, Montague said.
And that's something that happens, but it's such a small percentage of the activity that takes place.
Montague's book, The Stray Shopping Carts of Eastern North America.
I'm not making that up.
That's a book you can get on Amazon.
The Stray Shopping Carts of Eastern North America, a guide to field identification, humorously and rigorously documented a social problem that has been plaguing retailers and local governments for decades.
Lawmakers and residents say the abandoned carts are a blight on neighborhoods, can cause environmental damage and are a costly burden to remove.
Despite some pushback, a growing number of municipalities are cracking down on shopping cart theft.
In federal Way, Washington, taking a cart off-store property can result in a $50 fine.
California cities now charge businesses for the hassle of rounding up their carts.
And if retailers in Phoenix don't adequately address the issue, they'll have to install GPS trackers on their carts.
The Phoenix Neighborhood Service Department spent more than $58,000 to collect over 7,800 carts in the fiscal year 2024.
The city's carts retrieval program, which was formalized in October of 2025, it can charge stores as much as $50 per cart to return them.
Republican state lawmakers are looking to stop Arizona cities from fining businesses for the service.
Yeah, it should be the person who takes the cart that gets fined, not the business that has nothing to do whatsoever with an individual's choice to abscond with a cart.
Golly.
Well, I guess the theory would be you'd have to build these berm walls all around the parking lots so you can only slip out with a cart through certain escape valves.
I actually like what Aldi does, sir.
I'm not sure if you've ever frequented one of the German I've driven by one, but I've never set foot in one.
You should go into it.
They've got some great deals.
Knowing your culinary habits, I think you'd love it.
And what they do is you rent a shopping cart.
Oh, there's a deposit, basically.
Deposit a quarter, and then when you return it, you get your quarter back.
So, you know, there are airports that do that.
When you get one of those little carts to lug your luggage around, if you got too much, you put in money, but a quarter, that's hardly a deterrent.
But well, I guess at least that means you bring it back to where your quarter can come back.
You don't leave it just loitering in the parking lot someplace.
Oh, you put your quarter in.
You go into the store, you get your groceries, you take your cart to your car, you unload your groceries, you take the car back, you lock it back into the cart chain, get your quarterback.
And many times you can get quite a few quarters from people who decided not to lock their cart up.
I don't recommend doing that.
Oh, wait.
In other words, if there's an orphan cart, you can just rush it back and pick up a quarter.
You can garner a quarter for $24.
So that's how you made it through college as an undergraduate.
No, I actually went to the Atlanta airport and I found a bunch of those carts you mentioned for luggage and I returned those.
And I think they were $5 to rent and you get that money back.
Okay.
Well, anyway, so in federal way, one city employee is tasked with driving around to hunt for abandoned carts and respond to sightings reported through a city app, according to Keith Niven, the city's community development director.
Could you imagine living in a city where there is a city employee whose primary job is to just drive around and look for abandoned grocery carts?
And there's an app you can download.
Sheesh.
Oh, my goodness.
Where I grew up, you had an app to find out which were the best golf cart trails to enjoy driving your golf cart on.
So anyways, in recent years, Federal Way's so-called shopping cart jail has filled up less often and retailers seem to be doing a better job at keeping their carts on their property.
That's because the city was charging retailers $25 to return each cart and stores paid more than $18,000 for the service.
That seems like an easy way for the city to collect more revenue, actually.
Well, I guess I wonder how they managed to keep the carts on the premises.
They have an armed guard walking around the parking lot the whole time.
I mean, you know, it makes it sound as though, as you say, that it's the retailer's fault that these things go rolling off, but that's not it at all, one bit.
No, it is funny, though, going back to the whole shopping cart theory that I mentioned at the start of this conversation.
When you're driving around an area that you might not know that well, be cognizant of how many abandoned shopping carts you see, because that is the more they proliferate, the faster you need to leave that area, because you're definitely in a dodgy place.
I really do think there is something to the shopping cart theory and a person's propensity to returning the shopping cart or a person's inclination to steal one to, and like you said, abscond with.
The other story that I have, it's also from the Gannett publishing family.
This is from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
And we learn that, give me one second while I go up to it.
We learn that Milwaukee, a beautiful city.
Have you ever been to Milwaukee?
I've never been to Milwaukee.
It is a gorgeous city.
It's one of those cities that AR profiled.
It went from, goodness gracious, 95% in 1940 to about 36% white now.
Its proximity to Chicago and the welfare system there, it was kind of a precursor, sir, to what we saw the Somalis go to Minneapolis for.
The blacks who overwhelmed Chicago, they found far greener pastures in Wisconsin, unfortunately, for partaking in the welfare system.
Well, we learned that grocery stores are leaving Milwaukee at an alarming rate.
Here's what to know.
And for once, the story doesn't try and bury the lead.
Fresh food access is quickly disappearing for tens of thousands of residents in Milwaukee as grocery stores close across the city.
These major retailers behind the closures sometimes offer little to no notice before shuttering stores and have not provided clear explanations for why, leaving residents to handle the fallout.
The losses of these resources have not affected Milwaukeeans equally.
Since 2021, nine grocery stores have closed across the city.
Five of those stores are on the north side.
A study published by the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee found predominantly white areas have more than three times the number of supermarkets when compared to predominantly black areas and more than two times the number of supermarkets when compared to predominantly Hispanic areas.
As the problem continued to escalate, store closures pushed the city to respond.
That response included a formal recognition of food apartheid, Mr. Taylor, a public health emergency.
So we've gone from food deserts to outright food apartheid.
I mean, at what point are we going to have food concentration camps or a food DMZ?
The creation of an Interdepartmental task force to develop solutions to attract and retain stores and an ordinance requiring 60 days notice before store closures.
What this lead tells me, these first few paragraphs, is as long as you have a substantial white population, I don't think you're going to have a food desert or food apartheid.
And for good reason, you don't have what's euphemistically known as shrinkage.
And you probably have not quite the same problem of shopping carts rolling off into the bushes either.
There's probably a strong correlation to those grocery stores that are still thriving in the white areas and the paucity of abandoned golf, sorry, abandoned grocery carts near the premise.
So investments into infrastructure, the creation of business improvement districts and other initiatives on the north side have created building blocks for revitalization and stability.
For those who are not familiar, the north side of Milwaukee is one of America's most segregated cities.
There's actually, sir, a great book about Jim Crow North and about Milwaukee because there was such a staunch opposition to integration in Milwaukee of all places.
So Milwaukee has extreme segregation and it's the blacks are primarily in the north side.
But segregation, housing inequality, financial uncertainty, and now limited food access make life more difficult for many residents.
All the stores in the inner city are closing up and we have to go out farther now, said Lynn Campbell, who lives a few blocks from the closed Aldi on North Sherman Boulevard and West Custer Avenue.
Minnesota's Somali Community00:04:57
I'm not going to lie, it sounds pretty cool to live near North Sherman Boulevard and West Custer Avenue, knowing that those are named for, you know, General Sherman and General Custer.
Yankees, Yankees, at all.
Oh, they did a great job in pacifying the West.
I understand the aversion to Yankees, but they did do that.
Custer, well, he didn't exactly do such a great job.
He got pretty pacified himself, you know.
He did.
Well, he was an arrogant, he was an arrogant fool.
A little bit more than, yeah.
But it's fascinating because he was very good friends with a lot of the Confederate generals and officers in the Confederacy because they were all at West Point together.
Well, there's a story.
There's a story they tell about Custer after the war.
He was visiting some friends in Louisville, Kentucky.
And he was talking to some Confederate officers after the war, and he had a gold watch on a chain.
And sort of teasingly, he was going to show it to some of these Confederate officers.
He would swing it their way, and they would swing it back rather than letting them actually have it.
And one of the Confederate officers says, well, George, are you afraid one of us might recognize it?
Anyway, that's my Custer story.
But be that as it may.
Yes, that was a bit of a digression.
Well, no, that's a digression into a segue to your next story.
So not much else to say about the war tide breaking out in Milwaukee.
Well, I'm not sure what Custer and the Confederates have to do with Somalis and FGM, but be that as it may, Minnesota, as we have mentioned many times before, is home to the largest Somali population in America.
And according to the United Nations data, 98% of Somali females have been victims of genital mutilation.
Now, I don't know whether that count includes the ones who are in Minnesota, but Minnesota state rep Mary Franson, who's a Republican, says it's hidden.
It's a cultural practice.
And who is doing the cutting could be a family member or a doctor who is also part of the community.
Well, it is a felony in her state.
And she goes on to say, survivors say this is carried on in secrecy, shame, and fear, right there in the state of Minnesota.
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimate that about half a million girls and women in the United States have undergone the procedure.
That's based on data that are a decade old.
Half a million.
Now, it's some questions of where it actually takes place.
But the Minnesota Attorney General's Office could not identify a single case of FGM, female genital mutilation, being prosecuted.
Some families, I mean, they'll do it on their own in these sub-rows of ways, or they'll take their girls back to Somali and have the procedure done during school breaks.
Wouldn't want to miss school days, after all.
Some Somali men won't marry a woman if they haven't undergone the procedure.
It's all part of the dowry.
It's tied to marriage and it's tied to what men expect.
Families believe that it protects a girl's value.
Well, I guess if she's all sewed up tight as a drum, you can assume that she is a virgin.
In any case, working towards accountability, a bipartisan bill was introduced by state rep Hulda Momanyi-Hiltski, a Democrat, co-sponsored by the Republican Mary Franson I mentioned earlier, and it aims to create a task force on prevention of female genital mutilation in the state.
Now, the bill was brought forward by women in the Somali community, led by Representative Hulda Momagni.
But Mary Franson was actually the author.
She is white, and the Democrats told her that the Democratic Farmer Labor Party, the women said that if she carried the bill, they would not support it because she's white, and obviously she is a racist if she's meddling with the habits of our darker citizens.
So who knows?
Maybe they'll get to the bottom of this or not.
But my guess is that the community, all that group of Somalis in Minneapolis, Minnesota, are probably pretty tight-lipped about all this stuff.
They're going to have a hard time really finding out what happens, especially if they take the girls off to Somalia on breaks to get the job done over there.
Gruesome, gruesome stuff.
Philippe Janvier's Citizenship Crisis00:05:42
But you bring in the third world, you can bring in the third world practices.
Here's another interesting story.
The United States Department of Justice filed a suit on February 18th seeking to revoke the citizenship of the former mayor of North Miami.
His name is Philippe Janvier.
Jean Vier means January in French.
That's right.
The suit alleges that Jean Vier used a false last name to conceal a prior deportation order when he applied to become a U.S. citizen.
The man naturalized under the name of Philippe Bien-Eimé, which means well-beloved.
If you're going to change your name from January, why not be well-beloved?
He is the same person who was previously ordered removed from the U.S. under the name Philippe Janvier.
Fingerprint comparisons linked the two identities incontrovertibly.
And as it turns out, it was back in 2000 that a judge ordered Jean Vier expelled because he had entered the U.S. fraudulently using a photo-switched passport.
He's just quite the corner cutter from way back.
But he naturalized in 2006 under the false name Bien Aime and has been living happily ever after for 20 years in the United States of America, masquerading as a U.S. citizen.
And he served on the North Miami City Council.
And then as vice mayor, and then was elected mayor of North Miami in 2019.
After his mayoral tenure ended, he mounted an unsuccessful bid for the Miami-Dade County Commission.
Now, I think this is all quite interesting.
You have to wonder how many fraudulent cases there are like this.
I never heard of frauds being found out and stripped of U.S. citizenship under any Democratic administration.
No.
I almost never heard of them under any administration.
The other one we heard of was in Iowa.
Remember the superintendent of school superintendent.
Yes.
He'd been here for years.
And the guy dressed like a pimp.
Do you see the photographs of him?
Oh, he's quite pimporific.
Yes.
He doesn't return to the shopping cart, sir.
I suspect not.
I suspect not.
In any case, yeah, he had a gun he wasn't allowed to have.
He was a Haitian, wasn't he?
He was some sort of African.
I can't remember.
No, no, he was.
You're right.
He's Haitian.
He was Haitian.
Well, Bien Ame is Haitian.
Well, I guess that's the dumb thing.
Well, let's see.
In Britain, we have yet another astonishing case of asylum.
Or, well, he wanted to be a citizen.
Safi Dawood, an Afghan, stabbed three people on a residential street in Uxbridge in West London.
That was back on October 27th.
Of these three, he killed Wayne Broadhurst, age 49, his former landlord.
I guess he got tired of paying the rent.
Prosecutor Deanna Here told the court that Dawood had been assessed by a psychiatrist who concluded that he was not fit to plead or to stand trial.
And so Dawood spoke only to confirm his name with the aid of a push-to interpreter.
Well, he's been here since 1920, but he still needs an interpreter to be asked, what's your name, and to answer.
He was not asked to enter any pleas because I guess he is capable only of pronouncing his name and doing nothing else.
And his case was adjourned until the next hearing.
It'll be April 10th, during which time I'm sure he will be a well-accommodated guest of the United Kingdom taxpayer.
Well, he entered the UK illegally via truck in 2020.
And this is the part that I find baffling.
He was granted asylum and the right to remain in Britain in 2022.
Now, if he is not competent to plead guilty or not guilty or stand trial or any of those things, how on earth was he granted asylum?
Now, I suppose I could have taken the time to try to get into this, but this is the kind of thing that goes on in these horrible bureaucracies that seem to run our countries into the ground.
Just an astonishing thing.
Now, well, Mr. Kersey, once again, we have failed to cover this important story about Atlanta Airport.
But this is something that really deserves to be covered.
So I think we should tell our listeners how to get in touch with us.
And we'll have to save that story for next time, if that's all right with you.
It is.
No, it is.
All right.
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Call to Action00:01:03
One a week.
I try to keep to that schedule, but the real stakanovite of the movement is Kevin Deanna these days.
Three of those video programs every week.
No, he's doing great work.
I urge all of our listeners to tune in.
And you have an audio podcast with him every week yourself, do you not, Mr. Cursis?
You do two of these.
You're right.
We do.
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He is a raconteur, bon vivant, and all of those great things.
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