Jarvis Taylor and Paul Kersey dissect the Trump administration’s push to end TPS for 60,000+ Nepalis, Hondurans, and Nicaraguans, despite Judge Trina L. Thompson’s blocking ruling calling it xenophobic, while citing 38% voluntary deportations in 2025 due to stricter policies. They contrast Melbourne’s shifting multiculturalism with ICE’s failed extradition of Juan Talamantes, a child rapist, over Sheriff Quentin Miller’s legal loopholes, and mock Gene Simmons’ "ghetto" hip-hop snub while linking Atlanta’s minority contracting program—under fire for $1.4B in lost grants—to broader debates on immigration, economic control, and cultural identity, exposing tensions between policy, race, and populist rhetoric. [Automatically generated summary]
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
I'm your host, Jarvis Taylor.
And with me is my indispensable co-host, the one and only Paul Kersey.
Today is February 12th, Anno Domini, 2026.
And as usual, we begin with comments from listeners.
I am an Australian, and I've listened to your podcast with great interest for some years.
It appears that both our governing party and its primary opposition are utterly uninterested in preserving any definition of Aussie that prioritizes whites.
Recently, posters were put up in high-traffic locations in Melbourne featuring the Muslim mass shooter responsible for the Bondi massacre.
Beneath images of the shooter were the words Aussie.
This satirized a series of posters by Australian artist Peter Drew, which featured images of people of various ethnicities, all labeled Aussie, as though we should forget the founders of our country and accept any level of multiculturalism.
Perhaps small actions like this will wake at least a few people up to the consequences of unfettered multiculturalism.
Well, I hadn't heard about that campaign.
I'm glad to see any gesture fighting back against this idea that anybody can be an Aussie.
I'd never heard of this Peter Drew fellow, but I can just imagine you'll have every odd, bod-looking person under the sun.
You say, oh, this can be an Aussie too.
Every hot and tot, every Eskimo, you name it, all Aussies.
But yes, every, every way to fight back at that, and this sounds like a clever one of doing it.
Another comment.
I am a high school Latin teacher, a 20-something white man, and a longtime listener.
In class, I've noticed a distressing trend.
Many of my white male students are apathetic.
It's as though they've already resigned themselves to life as unproductive welfare leeches.
Boy, that's strong talk.
Although this trend is obviously more manifest among non-whites, I worry most about its effects on my white students.
If you will permit the metaphor, arable land should be cultivated, but Carthage's salted fields are mostly lost ab initio.
And those of our listeners who are not quite up on their classical history and don't know what this means about Carthage's salted fields, after the Second Punic War, the Romans sowed salt all through Carthage so nothing would grow.
And so they are lost to growth ab initio from the beginning.
Our listener goes on to say, I know that many problems plague our young white men, the persistence of DEI hiring, expensive housing, increasingly impossible mating politics, unacknowledged and unpunished anti-white ethnic violence, the negrification of American culture, etc.
How can I encourage my underachieving white male Latin students, Latin students, I should say.
Latin students sound as though they're Hispanic.
Latin students to take pride in their work and in their glorious cultural heritage.
How can I help them improve their lives in the midst of such decline?
A difficult question.
A difficult question.
I would have thought anyone who's studying Latin would have an unusually high level in our heritage.
Would you not, Mr. Kerzen?
100%.
100%.
And I'm very surprised that these would be people who seem to be down on being white, down on life, down on being men.
This is very disappointing and surprising.
You know, the only suggestion I can give is just to be very encouraging about our culture, about who we are, where we come from.
I mean, anybody who's not been utterly brainwashed realizes that our people created the modern world.
We created the best, the most magnificent culture ever in the history of our planet, the history of our species.
And it's only because they've been beaten down, browbeaten in every possible way, that they not realize this.
And again, I would assume that Latin is not an obligatory course unless this is in some kind of Catholic school.
I don't know.
But anybody who is interested enough in where we came from to study Latin, I would think, would be naturally interested in all of this, all of our heritage and our history.
But gosh, that is a rather surprising and disappointing comment from a listener.
Here is someone responding to your February 5th podcast, in which Mr. Kersey suggests using abandoned shopping malls.
They're all over the place.
Yes, you'll remember that, Mr. Kersey.
Use them as holding pens, or what is they call them, detention centers for elite immigrants.
Detention facilities, yes.
Yes, detention facilities.
They are spacious and often located near airports.
This is an excellent idea because malls are already so often destroyed and dilapidated.
So they will provide familiar and comfortable settings for the migrants, a preparation for going home.
Another good place for them would be gated communities filled with kind-hearted lefties.
These elite neighborhoods are often surrounded by walls and have guards.
The guards can be replaced with ICE agents and the walls topped with concertina wire.
Yeah, I think that's a great idea, too.
Just shove them in there and let the liberals sort out where they're going to live.
I would also recommend Billie Eilish's Oceanside Property be selected to host a pilot program to evaluate the efficacy of this approach.
Yes, I understand Billy Eilish was saying very rude things about ICE recently.
Very rude.
Very churlish.
I beg your pardon.
Very churlish toward ICE.
Yes, not kind at all.
Although on X, I discovered and posted a video, a little video of her.
She is addressing a concert audience in Ireland.
And she says, well, you know, I'm Irish.
And everybody sort of laughs and cheers.
She says, you know, it's kind of cool.
Come to some place.
And everybody looks like me.
It's kind of cool.
Well, as I noticed, as I noted in my ex-post, while she sticks with her politics, eventually no one is going to look like her.
But that's Billie Eilish.
Taylor, it's funny that very astute observations by that listener.
I don't understand why ICE hasn't tried to set up a jobs fair in Martha's Vineyard, considering they're basically the best at getting rid of illegal aliens in the country.
Well, they didn't have all that many, but yeah, they packed them onto an airplane and boom, off they went.
Yes, that was one of the Texas governor's, I think, most brilliant ploys when he was trying to call attention to just what a mess these people were that Joe Biden was waving across the border.
A plane load into Martha's Vineyard at what is it, 40, 50, maybe no more than that.
And they immediately shipped them off to the mainland.
All those lovely liberals.
But our listener has a further proposal for detention centers.
He goes on to say there are also many high-rise upper-class apartment complexes filled with liberals.
They could also be used for this purpose.
Just replace the doorman with ICE agents and give illegals passkeys so they can select any of the apartments they want.
Yes, that was sure serving right.
I like this.
I think this listener has got a good imagination and full of good ideas.
I think he should go work for ICE.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we do love hearing from our listeners, and there are two ways to get your comments and your observations to us.
One way to get something straight to me is to go to our web, well, the American Renaissance website.
That's amran.com, A-M-R-E-N.com.
We have a contact us tab, and please fill out your comment to me and I will get it, pronto, pronto.
And then there is a way to get something straight to Mr. Kersey.
Because we live here at protonmail.com, that email address once again, ladies and gentlemen, because we live here at protonmail.com.
And gotta say, Mr. Taylor, your X has been on fire lately.
So I do encourage everybody to follow at RealJarTaylor on the X platform.
Well, that's very kind of you, Mr. Kersey.
I should return the compliment.
Those who wish to follow Mr. Kersey, he has one called At because We Live Here.
At because we live here.
And your effect on X, as I understand, is greater than mine.
Yeah, it's actually at BWLH underscore.
Perhaps they should change it, but you have to be so careful because, you know, one of the things, one of our colleagues, Kevin Deanna, of course, has now changed his name and he's actually going under his own name there.
And he's getting ready to move over from his current handle.
And he's worried about what that's going to do because people are so used to seeing, what is it?
V-Dare, JK, or JK V-Dare or something.
Yes.
Well, I beg your pardon.
I misquoted your handle.
That's all right.
No, we're having fun on there.
It's so refreshing because a lot of the stories we're going to talk about today would not be happening if it wasn't for this just orgy of truth that you find on X that is really driving the news cycle.
And it's also driving innovation, as we're going to learn.
Well, so I understand that if you do change your handle, that doesn't mean that you have to resubscribe.
Surely someone who is already getting your feed will continue to get it.
It's just that your handle will be different, right?
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Exactly.
That's exactly right.
Well, that shouldn't be really a problem at all.
I would imagine that the difficulty would be over on the X side, the back end of it, just making sure it works.
But be that as it may.
All right.
Well, Mr. Kersey, you have a story on voluntary departures.
I love voluntary departures, but this is a special kind of voluntary departure that I'd never thought about.
These are the people who, while they're in ICE detention, living in those lovely abandoned malls or those gated communities that our listener proposes, decide, well, they're not enjoying just sitting around.
They say, okay, fellas, just give me the boot.
A lot of people today are upset that Tom Homan and the ICE apparently is withdrawing from Minnesota, which is not necessarily true.
The flooding of the zone is ending and a lot of blackpilling going on.
But this is one of those stories that CBS News is reporting that shows you it's going to take time for all this to come to place.
And it's there now.
And this story shows that as pathways to freedom have narrowed in immigration courts across the U.S., a record number of detainees are simply giving up their cases and voluntarily leaving the country.
28% of completed immigration removal cases in 2025 among those in detention ended in voluntary departure.
It's a higher share than in any prior year.
CBS analysis of decades of court records found.
Figure it only appears to be climbing as the Trump admins immigration crackdown widens and detention populations swell.
The percentage of voluntary departures among those detained grew nearly every month of 2025, reaching 38% in December.
This is just so wonderful because every day that they are in detention, that means we have to feed them, we have to fix their teeth, we have to make sure that they get medical treatment.
It's all just horrible.
The costs add up and that goes expenditures get more and more on us as the taxpayers.
So, sorry, I'm trying to drink some water as we're talking here.
No, this is an extraordinary story because we learn from Vilma Paliosa.
I'm not even going to try and pronounce her correct name, Paliosio.
Quote, it's set up for every individual who's detained to get to the point where they're just emotionally drained and exhausted through it all of the way that they've been treated to just say, okay, all I want is my freedom.
Vilma, she agreed to return to Honduras in December after being detained for six months.
Six months.
See, that's just crazy.
Crazy for her, crazy for us, crazy for the guards.
God, yes, home, go home, go home.
I suppose they're trying to fight it.
They're trying to fight it.
They're here legally.
Come on, get the message.
We don't want you.
The government doesn't want you.
Go.
Yeah, a war of attrition that finally she just threw the towel in.
So she was 22.
She'd been in the U.S. since she was six years of age.
Last June, a month after she graduated nursing school at LSU, ICE agents arrested her at a local police station after she brought in a car for a routine inspection.
Yeah, she had no criminal record, but she's here illegally.
Who cares?
Got to go home.
She and her family were apprehended and detained for a month at the border when they arrived in 2010, but were released pursuing an asylum case in the years following.
Court records show her case was closed when she was 12 years old, meaning it was taken off the docket indefinitely.
Now, in a statement to CBS News, DHS spokesperson wrote that she freely admitted to being in the U.S. illegally and never sought or gained any legal status.
Well, these are the best kind to boot.
She got her nursing degree.
Well, congratulations.
She can be a nurse in Honduras.
And they need their nurse.
Yes, I'm sure they do.
They need their nurses.
So go and be a patriotic Honduran and do wonderful things for your countrymen.
Exactly.
She can put that LSU degree to good use.
About 73,000 people were held in ICE detention in mid-January, the highest level ever recorded by DHS, CBS News reported.
Last year, 30% of the rulings on bond were favorable to detainees, down from 59% in 2024.
So it's very important that, again, you get more and more of these judges in who are ready to get the ball rolling forward in a positive direction.
Yes, yes, indeed.
All this is great.
When they use their own means and they decide on their own initiative that it's not worth the fight, I'm going to go home.
I applaud and I wish them farewell.
Well, that's one offline from this story before we move forward because I think you'll like it because you underlined it.
DHS has moved to Subject anyone who entered the U.S. illegally to mandatory detention rather than only those apprehended near the border, removing judges' authority to grant bond.
Wonderful.
That's one of the reasons why, sir, we see them buying all this property, all these huge warehouse facilities all across the country.
But 70,000.
Boy, that makes the federal government one of the larger hotel chains, I would guess.
Well, thankfully, there are no hotel points for staying for six months as our LSU grant did.
We don't want her back, and she's not going to get upgraded.
Nope, nope.
Very good.
She can't take the towels.
We'll charge her for it.
Well, let's see.
Is that all on that story, sir?
Yeah, well, there's one last quote because you did understand it, so I'm going to read it.
One immigrant asked CBS News not to identify her only by her initials as she is still seeking legal pathways to appeal her deportation, was relieved when a judge finally ordered her for deportation after 13 months in detention.
13 months.
13 months.
So she's basically been in detention since Trump took office for the second time.
Although she didn't ask for voluntary departure, at one point, she tried to convince her legal team to ask for her removal.
Quote, I couldn't fathom just continuing to sit there.
Every day that I sit here, I'm choosing to sit here.
I can sign and have them remove me in three days.
End quote.
Again, illegal aliens have the ability to go onto an app and they're going to get paid, I think it's $2,600 right now in a free flight back to their home nation.
And they can tell their friends and family back home.
I get to see America, but I missed all you guys because they don't want us there anymore.
And they can go be our evangelicals for us to why you shouldn't try and come to America illegally.
Yes, it's wonderful.
And they can tell all their people who are chattering and freezing in this cold Norte Americano weather, the sun is shining.
Come home, come home, leave your overcoat and you'll never have to wear it again.
Well, let's see.
TPS, good old TPS, temporary protected status, which under Biden and so many other presidents has become permanent protected status.
The federal appeals court has allowed President Trump to move forward with ending deportation protections for more than 60,000 illegals from Nepal, Honduras, and Nicaragua.
Christian Ohm, the Secretary of Homeland Security, has moved to end TPS status for hundreds of thousands of migrants.
But in lawsuits challenging these policies, district court judges have ruled against Trump.
However, in a similar case last year, the Supreme Court set precedent and it allowed deportation protections to expire for hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan migrants.
Nevertheless, Judge Trina L. Thompson of the Northern District of California, who is overseeing the court case for the Nepalese Odeon and Nicaraguans, wrote in an insulting order last year that Ms. Noam, DHS secretary, had perpetuated xenophobic stereotypes and racist conspiracy theories in her attempt to suspend their TPS protections.
Now, this is what she wrote.
By stereotyping the TPS program and immigrants as invaders that are criminal and by highlighting the need for migration management, Secretary Noam's statements perpetuate the discriminatory belief that certain immigrant populations will replace the white population.
Well, those two things don't follow at all if they're criminals.
That has nothing to do with replacing the white population, although it will do that.
This judge went on to say, color is neither a poison nor a crime.
Well, what do you know?
And among her other comments, Judge Thompson cited Ms. No's reference to immigrants in a news interview as some of the most dangerous people in the world and her remarks that other countries were emptying their prisons, their medical institutions, and sending those people to the United States.
That's got nothing to do with her placement theory.
Nothing, nothing.
It means we don't want these people for excellent reasons.
Now, Mr. Kersey, guess the race of Judge Trina Thompson?
I've not seen a picture of her.
I am going to guess she is black.
Black is.
She is an African-Americaness.
Yes, she is.
She is.
She is.
A Biden nominee, approved by the Senate in a vote of 51 to 44.
She just got in by the skin of her bright white teeth.
But a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals, the Ninth Circuit, stayed Judge Thompson's ruling at the request of the Trump administration, pointing to the Supreme Court's rulings in the Venezuelan case.
Yep, Venezuelans can get the boot, and so can these Nepalese, Hondurans, and Nicaraguans.
Bye-bye, fellas.
In total, the government has moved to eliminate the program for more than 1 million people from eight countries, arguing that the programs were originally aimed at providing temporary relief and have expanded well beyond their original scope.
Yeah.
Now, when was that earthquake in Haiti?
Was that 2010?
Wasn't that 16?
15 years?
2010, 2010.
Yes, 16 years ago, last month, I believe.
That's right.
And, well, they're still here on temporary protective status.
And I think there's some of these TPS people who have been around for even longer than that.
But Americans love their illegals, especially when they're criminals.
Because here's a story about a fellow who sneaked across the border illegally, and then he went on to rape three young children in Asheville, North Carolina.
Federal immigration authorities are begging sanctuary officials to hand this Mexican illegal, his name is Juan Ramon Juarez Talamantes, age 29, turn him over to ICE.
But Bunkham County Sheriff Quentin Miller, what a bunch of bunkum this guy's about to say.
He said that his office adheres to a state law that forces police to honor ICE detainers, but the law requires that sheriffs honor detainers when they have a judicial warrant, which is not the standard in federal immigration cases.
Now, I don't know the ins and outs of that, but when ICE says we want the guy, I don't know if they come up with a judicial warrant.
They say this guy's a criminal and we want to take him off your hands.
And as I say, they should bow down and kiss the feet of the ICE agents to show up and say, not only will he no longer be in your community, he will be out of the country.
Just give me, give me, give me, give me this guy.
But they just love their illegals, especially child rapists, appears.
But before the legislation passed, Buncombe County, Sheriff Quentin Miller, refused to honor any ICE detainers.
And he ended his office participation in the federal 287G program where local officials help with immigration.
Last year, Miller said, I have repeatedly spoken out against cooperation with ICE, saying federal immigration law is not the responsibility of local officers and damages law enforcement's trust within the immigrant community.
I've never understood this argument.
This is one you always hear.
They say, oh, the poor dears.
If we have a criminal and we turn him over and he gets the boot, then our local criminal, our local illegal immigrant community will no longer trust us.
Surely it's the local illegal immigrant community, if you want to call it a community, that would be happy to see them go, don't you think, Mr. Kersey?
I do.
I just don't understand this.
This guy just seems to think we need these Mexican child rapists.
Can't get along without them.
And so here are these guys, these good Samaritans, want to come along and make sure that we'll never ever see the likes of him again.
But nope, nope, nope.
Got to keep him around.
But here's a not surprising but somewhat dispiriting story that you had about the mural or one of many murals of Irina Zarutska.
Yeah.
Not surprising.
No, not surprising at all.
From the New York Post, a mural of Irina Zarutska.
Of course, for those who don't recall, she was the Ukrainian who boarded a subway or transit in Charlotte, North Carolina, was stabbed to death by just a random black guy behind her.
De Carlos Brown.
De Carlos Brown.
It's a name I don't want to remember, but I can't forget.
Well, apparently it's loathed by local lefties, this mural, for its tough on crime message and ties to Elon Musk.
Well, it was vandalized at Manhattan.
Irking neighbors who on Friday called the defacement of a disgusting act of political spite.
The sprawling painting of Irina, again, stabbed to death by a homeless ex-con in August of 2025, was graffitied with spray paint on the Lower East Side earlier this week.
Please vandalize this, the tagger scrawled over an image of the tragic 23-year-old's face on Delancey and Ludlow streets.
Well, at least he's a polite vandalizer.
Well, please, he says, please, please.
What a nice guy.
Should there have been a comma after the please?
Well, no, please.
No, there doesn't have to be a comma.
You could say, vandalize this, please.
It would require a comma.
It's pathetic.
It's reprehensible, fumed David Carbone, a 76-year-old artist who lives nearby about the vandalism.
The mural had been complete for less than two weeks before it was heartlessly defaced.
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
Quote, when we passed, they were doing it.
It was beautiful.
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We were looking at it.
It was amazing, said Israel Tories, who works in the neighborhood.
We passed the following week and we saw it and we said, oh my God, look, somebody messed it up already.
Now, the painting is part of a campaign launched by conservative tech CEO Eogen McCabe and partially funded by Elon Musk, who actually put up a nice, pretty penny in donation to see these.
Wasn't it a million dollars you set aside for these?
Everyone misremembered?
It might have been eight figures.
I think it might have been $10 million.
Oh, my.
But to honor the slain refugee's legacy with murals depicting her in several cities.
Previously, said he wants the multi-million dollar initiative, which includes a mural in the Bushwick section of Brooklyn, to highlight how crime in liberal areas can lead to tragedies like Zarutska's ruthless murder.
Let's see here.
A spokesperson for him on Friday confirmed the Low Reese mural as part of the project, but declined to comment further.
Left-leaning neighborhoods, I'm sorry, left-leaning neighbors believed it was likely painted to inflame political tensions, like its sister art in Brooklyn.
Quote, I do not think, I do think that the motivations behind the mural in Bushwick, what's pushing a right-wing, you know, tough-on-crime narrative at a teacher who lives in the area.
They're literally trying to use this white woman's face who was murdered to push a right-wing tough on crime narrative that I don't agree with.
So I guess she wants more crime.
She wants more dead white people.
Dead white people.
The lower, let's see here.
There's other murals of Zaruska that have been commissioned in Washington, D.C., Miami, Los Angeles.
I believe there's one in Austin, Texas.
I think I read somewhere there's going to be one in Atlanta and Nashville.
So they are trying to put these up and have these painted.
I kind of wish, sir, that they'd just paint her final moment, though, as she sits down and the menacing figure behind her disarming black male.
That's the one that I would like to see.
That's the mural.
My impression is that at least one mural is, in fact, of that horrible image.
She's looking up at her killer and this just terror-stricken.
Well, be careful.
A lot of this stuff out there could be AI.
I'm not sure if that's been done.
That should be done.
It should be as provocative as possible to start conversation.
A lot of people are going to look at this mural of a pretty girl and they think, gosh, is this a shampoo commercial?
They're just not going to know what it is.
She's got jeans.
This is for American Eagles.
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Right.
Well, yes, Musk pledged a million dollars to fund the murals.
I'm looking it up right now.
And this came in response to campaigns started by this Yogan McCabe guy who had pledged $500,000 in $10,000 grants to various artists.
And Musk says, hey, I'll see your $500,000 and I'll raise you a million.
So good for Elon.
Yeah, 100%.
But hopping across the pond to Britain, we don't usually read poetry on this podcast.
And I'm not sure this could be called poetry.
But there is a series that is popular now on theCUBE on the subway in London in which lip spaces are filled with bits of poetry.
And this particular poem that I'm about to read was supported by the Mayor of London, the Arts Council of England, the British Council, the Poetry Society, and the National Poetry Library.
Now, might it be Wordsworth?
Might it be Browning?
Might it be Shakespeare?
What's that?
It's not Tennyson either.
No, no.
Well, I will read it to you.
And I won't tell you what the title is, but I will read it to you with as authentic an accent as I can muster.
What a joyful news, Miss Mati.
I feel like me hut going burst.
Jamaica people colonizing England in reverse by the hundred and by the thousand from country and from town by the shipload and the plane load.
Jamaica is England bound.
Damn a pour out of Jamaica, everybody's future plan is for to get a big tag job and settle in the motherland.
What an island, what a people, man and woman, old and young, just a pack them bag and baggage and turn history upside down.
Yeah, turn history upside down.
Yep, for sure.
So this is what, if you climb onto the London subway, they're going to be hit in the face with this little bit of doggerl.
And it is called England Colonizing Jamaica by, no doubt, some colonizer who has probably moved.
So there you go.
And that is what is popularized and promoted by the London Arts Council, et cetera, et cetera, the British Council, the Poetry Society, et cetera.
Now, meanwhile, in Britain, there is other news.
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An asylum Afghan seeker has been found guilty of abducting and raping a 12-year-old girl in a place called, it's spelled Nuniatan, Nuniatan, but it's probably pronounced in some other British way, like Worcestershire sauce.
It's not pronounced the way it's spelled.
In any case, Ahmad Mulakil, age 23, took the girl to quiet cul-de-sac on the 22nd of July and carried out what has been called an extremely horrific sexual offense or offenses.
It's pulled.
So we won't go into further detail on that.
Jurors at the 10-day trial heard evidence from the victim, a 12-year-old girl.
She told the trial she was approached in a park while she was playing on swings.
What a boy, what a shift, a sudden shift in activity.
During the sex attack, the girl said she told Mulakil to stop.
Asked by police what he was saying, the girl responded, nothing.
He was just laughing.
I was saying, get off.
He didn't say anything.
He just carried on.
Mulakiel told police he believed the girl was 19 and that she had initiated what was his first sexual encounter.
Oh, poor boy.
He's 23, 23, having his first sexual encounter.
And she, he thought, was 19 and she was egging him on.
Just, of course, that's what all 12-year-olds do.
When they're playing on swings, and some guy from Afghanistan walks by, she says, come hither, come.
Oh, good grief, disgusting.
Well, Judge Christina Montgomery, she said he will plainly receive a substantial custodial sentence, which will automatically make him liable for deportation at its conclusion.
Well, I hope the heck it does.
Moulakiel arrived in a small boat from France in March 2025, four months before he raped the girl.
And there were widespread spread protests in Nuniatan because those details about the man, namely that he was a small boat migrant, he was illegal, and that he was from Afghanistan, all these details were withheld, not reported by the police.
And Nigel Farage called on police forces across the United Kingdom to share the status of charged suspects.
But at the time, Warwickshire Police said someone charged with an offense, the force followed national guidance that did not include sharing ethnicity or immigration status.
The case prompted changes to guidance on reporting, and so apparently, henceforth, people will know who are the miscreants who live among them.
Well, I sure hope that's the case.
But this, you know, these people come up with such implausible stories.
This 12-year-old, oh, I thought she was 19.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she wanted it.
Of course.
And a 12-year-old girl, and she's got to come and testify in court about this.
She'll probably never be.
I wonder, do you ever get over something like this?
I sure hope so.
I hope she's a tough-minded girl.
She goes on to be happy, find a wonderful white man, marry and have children.
But good grief, what a way, what a way to start out.
Wow.
Well, Mr. Kersey, you have an interesting story about Atlanta's ex-mayors.
And I think there's probably something in common they all have.
Before we get to Atlanta, let's stay in England, sir.
Oh, that's right.
You had something to add.
The reason why you read that poem, Colonization in Reverse, by Lewis Bennett.
Someone on Twitter wrote, on the London Underground, there is literally printed propaganda promoting the reverse colonization of the UK.
They're proud to say they're colonizing us.
Jim Ratcliffe was right.
If you've been on X the past couple days, you've seen everybody in England pounce on Jim Ratcliffe because he basically is one of the defectors, a billionaire who has come out and said that the country is being colonized.
Now, who is Sir Jim Rick Jim Ratcliffe, sir?
Well, he's someone that the prime minister, Kare Starmer, has labeled comments about immigration made by billionaire Manchester United co-owner, Sir Ratcliffe, as offensive and wrong.
Sir Jim, founder of one of the world's largest chemical companies, told Sky News that the UK had been colonized by immigrants and suggested the prime minister was too nice to do difficult things to stabilize the country's economy.
Mr. Taylor, this story has been like a bomb going off.
It has caused everybody who has skin in the game of maintaining the status quo in England to come to the defense of the prime minister, the beleaguered prime minister, and for anybody who can't see what's happening with their own eyes to come out and say, well, no, no, Sir Ratcliffe is right.
I mean, this is not the England that we knew 10 years ago, five years ago.
It's extraordinary to see what's happening.
Well, I see here, I just looked him up.
Ratliff later issued a statement apologizing for his choice of language.
Oh, boy.
I did not know he had already apologized.
They're usually pretty quick, especially when they're billionaires.
But he stands by the need for what he calls controlled and well-managed immigration that supports economic growth and open debate.
So long as it supports economic growth, Mr. Kersey, I guess it's fine.
Oh, well, Manchester United released a statement affirming the club's inclusive and welcoming values.
Airport Contracts Controversy00:14:56
Why can't these people stick to their guns?
I mean, at least he did say something that's obviously true.
Anybody with one eye open knows that this is true.
And he says it, and then now he's apologizing, sniveling.
Wow.
That's why he was so vociferously denounced by those in control of England currently.
It was incredible to watch.
And unfortunately, I was unaware that he had already, not groveled, but walked back his statement.
Going to Atlanta, well, this is a story that originates in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, a newspaper that no longer publishes a daily newspaper.
It's all online.
Oh, is that right?
As of January 1st, 2026, they ceased publishing a print edition.
And unfortunately, the main article is behind a paywall that you can't even access when you go to remove paywall.
It's blacked out.
You can read from it, but I was able to cobble together this from an Atlanta website.
Black ex-mayors packed a historic church to save minority contracts.
Well, this story is near and dear to my heart because I know way too much about this subject.
Atlanta's living former black mayors have quietly closed ranks to defend the city's long-running minority contracting program, rolling out a new alliance called the Soul of Atlanta Coalition and standing shoulder to shoulder at Big Bethel AME Church.
I'm sure they're standing soul to soul also at this Big Bethel church.
Soul to soul, shoulder to shoulder.
Now, I can't wait to ask.
I have not followed Atlanta politics quite as you have, but it seemed to me that every one of them have something in common besides being soul to soul and shoulder to shoulder.
Am I right?
They are all soul brothers too.
They're all black.
But one of them a sister, right?
Well, there should be a few sisters, actually.
Shirley Franklin and Kesha Lance Bottoms.
Ms. Bottoms was, of course, back in 2020.
She was considered a vice presidential candidate because of the way that she had apparently handled the George Floyd riots in Atlanta.
So her star was shining brightly for a couple months before a number of controversies caught up with her and she was quietly removed from consideration.
But I think she's running for governor.
But anyways, the group, the city's equal business opportunity rules are not just procurement paperwork.
They're treated as a core, the very soul of Atlanta's economic development strategy and to the legacy of former black mayor Maynard Jackson, who was the first black mayor, very light-skinned black mayor, mind you.
I think he had blue eyes.
He was elected in 1973 and he ushered in this minority contracting basically program that has created scores, hundreds of black millionaires because of directing contracts with the city and with the county, Fulton County, and also with the airport, Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.
I'm sure a lot of our listeners have flown in there.
Never call it Hartsfield-Jackson.
Just call it Hartsfield.
Anyways, their campaign is unfolding just as shifting federal policies and court rulings are reshaping how disadvantaged business programs operate across the country.
As reported by the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Mayor Andre Dickens joined former mayors Andrew Young, Shirley Franklin, Kassim Reed, Bill Campbell.
By the way, I didn't know Andrew Young was still alive.
He's got to be pretty old.
Bill Campbell and the aforementioned Kesha Bottoms at an October 30, 2025 rally to formally launch the coalition.
Now, the lineup put every living former Atlanta mayor on the same side of the issue.
And here's the big quote.
History will judge us for how we weather the storm, Bottoms told the AJC as the group vowed to protect the program credited with helping build Atlanta's black business class.
Yes, EEI in many ways has its origins in Maynard Jackson's first term when he basically, I won't say he held hostage the growth of the airport there, but he basically said, you're going to set aside a certain number of the contracts for black-owned businesses.
And he proudly boasts about creating a black millionaire class that otherwise, that the free market couldn't replicate without these set-aside programs.
Yep, these preferences do have an effect.
Money flows out of the pockets of those who could have done a cheaper and better job into those who are doing a not-so-cheap and not-so-good job, but are the right color.
Yes.
The way these work.
And Trump, and again, one of the great victories of the Trump presidency so far has been the complete rollback of DEI initiatives.
And we learned that those regulatory shifts have already hit Atlanta's bottom line.
The airport leaders have declined to sign new FAA grant language that disavow DEI and in the process forfeited roughly $37.5 million in federal grants just because they were stubborn.
And they're like, no, we're not going to sign that because that would completely repudiate what built as the airport and what has allowed a lot of these Seoul brothers to be driving around BMWs and Lexuses throughout Metro Atlanta.
The AJC reported in 2025 that city and airport officials say they are weighing their options and possible workarounds while continuing to administer the city's equal business opportunity program.
You know, that's the irony.
Equal business opportunity.
All of this phony baloney language just makes me so tired.
It's obviously clearly unequal opportunity.
They torture the language with calling it equal opportunity.
Yeah, a great quote from the AJC article I've got pulled up, which unfortunately I couldn't copy and paste for our conversation.
Many argue that Atlanta's status as a hotbed for minority-owned businesses is rooted in its groundbreaking minority contracting program, which was established by Mayor Jackson in 1973 to require a certain percentage of city contracts be awarded to minority and women-owned businesses.
I want to say it was 40%.
It was a shockingly high amount.
Now, Atlanta, of course, it's almost majority white now.
In 1990, it was about 70% black.
And, of course, it's clawed its way back to nearly being a majority white city.
That focus has always been in the DNA of Atlanta, said Mayor Bottoms.
It's like, well, no, it was put there to artificially create this class.
It was an infusion that has contaminated the DNA of Atlanta with this DEI nonsense.
But Mr. Kersey, I thought the motto of Atlanta in those days was the city that's too busy to hate.
Well, it was too busy to notice the black hatred toward whites.
Oh, that was it.
That's all it is.
And we're not supposed to.
And now, again, it's like, well, this is a good thing because look at all the prosperous blacks who have been enabled by these set-aside programs to progress their businesses and their conglomerations.
I wonder if anyone has ever done a study of how many of these allegedly black-owned companies then just farmed out the job, taking their cut to competent white-owned companies.
I imagine there was a substantial number.
And that's how you don't even have to know how to lay concrete or build a runway or whatever's required.
You just have to know who can and claim that you are minority-owned.
And then you just hire your pal who has the office just down the hall and he does the work.
Anyway, it's all just a miserable, miserable, bogus, and phony thing.
But, you know, it's interesting to me.
It seems to me that if they're saying no, no, no, we are not going to get rid of DEI.
In effect, they're saying, yes, we're going to discriminate on the basis of race.
And the consequences should not be merely forfeiting millions of federal dollars.
I don't know why the federal government is giving Atlanta millions of dollars for its airport to begin with.
They should not merely be forfeiting federal grant money.
They should be charged with a crime.
No, exactly.
And Atlanta, the black leadership Atlanta has pretty much dug in their heels.
I mean, DEI, they've renamed it.
It's ensconced in, unfortunately, this reconfigured DNA of the city.
And it's so fascinating to look at all that's happening because, again, the city has undergone unbelievable changes.
You know, the black population has largely shifted to the first-tier suburbs, the suburbs that were in the 1990s, Gwinnett County, Fayette County, Cobb County.
Those were all 90, 95% white.
Gwinnett County, when I was growing up in Atlanta, Gwinnett County was about 95% white, some of the best public schools in the country, Brookwood Parkview.
That county now is 33% white.
It's heavily Hispanic, Asian.
The blacks are largely in Cobb and Fayette County.
Fayetteville is now majority black.
I won't get too into the weeds here because I know too much about all this.
But again, they're trying to rebrand all this because the seat of Atlanta is potentially looking at a federal funding freeze of $1.4 billion that would go to housing and infrastructure because of their stubbornness and refusing to go along with all the changes mandated by the government by Trump.
Well, you know, it's all very well when you've got Trump in the White House and you've got these federal programs that can be used to bludgeon people into doing things the federal government wants it to do.
But that has been when the club is held by Democrat hands, it works exactly the other way.
You can bludgeon all of the states and all the local communities into doing horrible things because you can dangle or not dangle millions and tens of millions of federal dollars in front of their hungry eyes.
It's all very well when we have got a guy who understands all this who's in the White House, but he's not always going to be there.
This whole federal way of kicking the states and the locals around, I don't like it one bit.
As a man with Confederate ancestors who has a deep suspicion of the federal government, I have never, ever liked that, but at least for the four years he's going to be in office, Donald Trump is using this power in a way that's useful.
One last quote for you.
This is from Jawari Samama, a co-convener of the Soul of Atlanta Coalition, who was worried about the eerie silence of the city's black faith and black business community about the importance of these programs.
Quote, we all need to sing out the same hymnal.
And the problem is not enough people are singing.
That's why he decided to help convene a people's movement led by the black former mayors to offer a platform for businesses and residents, obviously black, to highlight why the program has worked and merits defending.
Quote, this is a 50-year plus program that doesn't belong to any one mayor.
In fact, it doesn't even belong to just mayors.
It belongs to the city of Atlanta.
No, sir, it belongs in the dustbin of history because it has discriminated against white people extensively and exclusively.
I wonder if you asked all these mayors and if you asked this co-convener.
I like that.
I'd like to be a co-convener of something someday.
Maybe you and I could be co-conveners.
Well, I guess we're not going to be able to do that for a more salubrious way of living for white people in America.
Well, we're co-conveners of this podcast.
I think I will have to introduce you next time around.
And here's my co-convener, co-convener.
In any case, if you asked them, well, wait a minute.
Is this because after 50 years, black people face discrimination from a black city government?
In other words, they require this because there are still systemic racial discriminatory barriers against black businesses getting the job.
Isn't it strictly done on bid?
And the low bid gets the job as long as you can get the job done.
What would they say?
I think they would have to confess, well, yep, we need this.
We need this.
Well, why do we need this?
Well, because we are black.
My guess is if there has been any kind of silence from blacks on this at all, it's because at least some of them recognize that this is a completely unfair, unwarranted preference program that's ultimately an insult to black contractors.
But what do they really think?
They'll catch the checks, though.
Oh, yeah, they'll cash the checks.
So convener.
I do like the story.
The more I'm reading the story, I'm just, it's firing up some memories I've repressed of the city of Atlanta and just how insane this is because there's always been a push, sir, to build another airport on the north side of Atlanta in Alphareto.
And a lot of these same black business leaders have said, well, we can't see traffic shared between two airports because they might start favoring going, you know, Delta and Southwest and United and American.
And international flights might want to exclusively go to that airport as opposed to the one that has enabled the creation of so many black collaborators in this really the genesis of the whole DEI program that was replicated.
I mean, this was this proof of concept in Atlanta was taken nationwide throughout the late 70s, 80s, and 90s to other cities that were under black political control.
Oh, black set-asides.
That didn't even have to be under black political control.
You have all these white city governments that have been doing the same thing, idiot white people.
Well, moving from Atlanta to Baltimore.
I know.
It's almost as if you haven't gone anywhere.
Mayor's Fancy Ride00:03:00
But the mayor of Baltimore dismissed a reporter's question about his taxpayer-funded SUV as racist.
Democratic Mayor Brandon Scott rides in a nearly $164,000 2025 Jeep Grand Wagoneer decked out with about $60,000 of security upgrades, including police lights, sirens, and a securitized phone.
Well, his ride is about twice as expensive as Maryland Governor Wesmore's.
His cost about $82,000.
It's a Chevrolet suburban.
And Scott's SUV, that's Mayor Scott of Baltimore, it's just one of two executive vehicles in the state that costs more than $100,000.
And they are both assigned to Baltimore City officials.
Now, I thought Baltimore was kind of on the skids needing money for poor, downtrodden, marginalized black people.
But boy, they got fancy rides for the mayor and for the police chief.
Well, so investigative reporter Tessa Bentoulan asked Mayor Brandon Scott, how do you justify the cost of this vehicle?
The mayor replied, we'll just stop you right there.
We get it.
We understand that your station, she is from some kind of what?
I don't see the actual TTV station here, but we understand that your station has a severe right-wing effort underway.
And after Ben Toulin pressed further, Scott said, I did answer the question.
Just because you didn't get the answer you wanted and your racist slant is one thing.
Well, there you go.
You don't question a black mayor about his $164,000 plus $60,000 upgrades Jeep Grand Wagoneer.
That's just not done.
That's like questioning black citizens.
And let's see, what else we got here?
Right.
You know, I can't decide what I think about what's going on in Minnesota, Minneapolis, but here's a little story about it.
The Trump administration said on Thursday it was ending its deployment of immigration agents to Minnesota.
Tom Holman, the border czar, said he'd made arrangements for immigration agents to have more access to illegals at county jails.
He didn't immediately provide details of the agreements reached, but, and this is what I thought was most interesting, the reaction from the Minnesota officials, Governor Tim Waltz, he said, they left us.
He's speaking of ICE agents, they left us with deep damage, generational trauma.
Get that?
Generational trauma.
Does that mean his children and grandchildren are going to suffer on account of what ICE agents did?
That's what generational trauma would be.
They left us with economic ruin in some cases.
Oh my gosh, Tim, your state is just going to go to the dogs on account of this.
Rock And Roll Spirit00:05:32
The Democrats who run the minutes have also referred to the operation as illegal, an illegal armed occupation, they call it.
You know, the federal government marches in.
It is just enforcing the law.
City and state leaders filed a lawsuit claiming the operation was an unconstitutional violation of state sovereignty, but failed to convince a judge to grant an injunction.
And then good old Jacob Frey, his statement is another good one.
They thought they could break us, but a love for our neighbors and resolve to endure can outlast an occupation.
Isn't that a heartwarming statement, Mr. Kersey?
They thought they could break us, but a love for our neighbors, our illegal immigrant neighbors.
This is just something I don't understand.
They're here, and we love them.
Doesn't matter if they're illegal, we love them because they're here, and especially if they're not white.
But moving on, I think we've got time for Gene Simmons.
Tell me about Gene Simmons.
This has to be one of your favorite performers, right?
I saw Kissing Concert one time.
Did you?
Don't they paint their faces weird colors?
They might think it's somebody else.
There are a bunch of Jewish guys who painted their faces and sing rock and roll.
It was a great concert.
I saw them.
I actually saw them in Atlanta.
Okay, okay.
I'll take your word for it.
There's no disputing about tastes.
You know, it was a great story.
One day I'll tell it to the audience.
The Kiss rocker, who was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame back in 2014, he's widely been critical of the Rock Hall's inclusion of hip-hop acts.
I guess it's DEI for the rock industry, dating back to back in the days he had with Ice Cube.
Kiss frontman Gene Simmons took another jab at the institution, this time over its honoring of hip-hop acts, i.e. the brothers.
It's not my music, he said.
I don't come from the ghetto.
It doesn't speak my language.
And as I said in print many times, hip-hop does not belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, nor does opera or symphony orchestras.
How come the New York Philharmonic doesn't get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
Because it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Now, you probably don't know, but Gene Simmons has a very deliberate way of speaking.
So I was trying to mimic him there.
He's very slow and methodical.
He's very, very entertaining guy.
Last year, the organization inducted acts such as Sultan Peppa and Outcast to its hallowed halls.
And in years past, it's honored NWA, Tupac, Jay-Z, LL Cool J, and Missy Elliott.
And listeners, my co-convener of this podcast in his iTunes library, he has none of those bands, none of those musicians.
Either I am displaying my hip cool with it knowledge of these things, or I am dating myself as an old geezer, but I think I know what NWA stands for.
Dare I unbossom what the acronym stands for, or dare I unbossom the acronym.
I think it stands for niggas with an attitude.
Am I right?
Oh, I'm with it and cool after all.
Hooray for me.
Yeah, he Simmons publicly had a discussion with Ice Cube over the issue when Mr. Cube was preparing to be inducted alongside Dr. Dre, MC Ren, DJ Yella, and the late EZE.
Ice Cube and I had a back and forth.
He's a bright guy, and I respect what he's done.
He's shot back.
That's the spirit of rock and roll.
So Ice Cube and Grandmaster Flash and all these guys are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I just want to know when Led Zeppelin's going to be in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame.
Music has labels because it describes an approach.
By and large, rap hip-hop is a spoken word art.
Then you put beats in back of it and somebody comes up with a musical phrase, but it's verbal.
There are some melodies, but by and large, it's a verbal thing.
I'll be blunt.
It's actually incredibly brave that someone of Gene Simmons' stature would defend the honor and integrity of rock and roll.
Mr. Kersey, is there a hip-hop Hall of Fame that's separate from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
If it is, it's probably in Atlanta.
So I do not know because I don't partake in that music.
I know less about hip-hop now than I do about Bad Bunny from just having to buy osmosis, learn about our Puerto Rican entertainers musical catalog from the Super Bowl.
Oh, boy, Bad Bunny.
Well, I think we just kind of have to hop off the air here because we have run out of time, good bunny.
As always, we just seem to run out of time.
Ladies and gentlemen, we really enjoy the time we spend with you.
We really do.
And we also really enjoy hearing from you.
And we gave our contact methods earlier in the podcast.
But thank you so much for this time you spent with us.
For us, it is a joy and an honor and a privilege.
And we look forward, I and my co-convener, to spending this time with you next week as well.