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Jan. 16, 2026 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Do We Have an Insurrection?

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey wonder if we will get the first insurgency declaration since the Rodney King riots of 1992. They also discuss Johannesburg, exotic federal judges, the Obama presidential library, and Norman Rockwell. Thumbnail credit: © Dave Decker/ZUMA Press Wire

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Ladies and gentlemen, dear listeners, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
I am your host, Jared Taylor.
With me is my indispensable co-host, the one and only Paul Kersey.
Today is January 15th, Anno Domini 2026.
Did I get the year right, Mr. Kersey?
I hope so.
It is 2026 already.
Yes, sir.
Martin Luther King Day, right?
Getting that way.
Getting that way.
I'm just all excited about that.
Yes, sir.
Going to put my feet up and contemplate, judge people by the content of their character.
And oh, boy, it's going to be a great day.
Well, we begin with a comment from a fellow who turns out to have been a first-time visitor to the dark continent, and he visited Johannesburg.
And he happens to have visited Johannesburg shortly after you and I had spoken about the man-eating potholes and non-functional stoplights and all the other things.
And he writes this.
I have to say your description of Johannesburg was unfortunately accurate.
Huge potholes, non-functioning traffic lights, and much evidence that the city is plagued by violent crime.
Yet, somehow, life goes on and is by no means entirely disagreeable.
I feel as though this complicated reality was not fully reflected by you too.
During my time in Joburg, I stayed in a five-star Hilton in Sandton.
This is a new business district established post-apartheid when businesses were forced to move out of the city center due to crime.
Sounds familiar from the United States, doesn't it?
City center goes completely to hell and Hawaii moves out.
He goes on, Santon, by any standard, is very modern, clean, and affluent.
There are plenty of great restaurants, and thanks to the heavily armed private security, it felt relatively safe.
All in all, it's probably about as close to a Wakanda as Africa will ever get.
That said, the threat of violence, in particular, armed robbery, is constant, even in Santon.
I enjoyed my time there, but it was never possible truly to relax.
And on the whole, interactions with South African blacks were much better than I expected.
At my hotel, I did not see any signs of racial animus or resentment from the staff, who were almost always exceedingly polite, cheerful, and helpful.
Outside of the hotel and high-end Santon restaurants, things were a little more complicated.
You know, that's my experience with southern blacks, Mr. Kersey.
I know you've spent a lot of time south.
There are the finest, sweetest people who worked, for example, in my father's old folks home.
Just, just wonderful black people, mostly women, just sweet and kind as they can be.
I would actually push back and say that that generation is being replaced, though.
Probably, probably.
I mean, I don't know, but this was my, my dad died in 2016.
It's been nine years now.
I haven't been in a nursing home since then.
But this is in Louisville, Kentucky.
Just, just wonderful, wonderful, sweet ladies.
I've never forgotten them and ever will.
I would say the same thing about where my grandfather was in Alexander City, Alabama.
So there were some very, very wonderful individuals who took great care toward the end of his life.
So, yeah.
Yes, there was certainly a generation that just could not have been nicer.
Considerate, patient, just lovely, lovely people.
In any case, our listener goes on to say, working at my client's office, I got the impression that racial tensions and grievance policies are woven into the social fabric.
A black colleague was highly irritated when he found out that we were planning to visit the Voortrekker Monument in nearby Pretoria.
I would love to go there someday.
The photographs of it are just so impressive.
I'd love to go to the monument at Blood River, too.
That ring of, I guess they're made out of cast iron, those Conestoga wagons where, what is it, 400 boars held off 12,000 Zulus, all those monuments, I think they'd bring tears to my eyes.
It brings tears in my eyes hearing that story.
And by the way, you mentioned a book that was written by an Afrikaner.
I believe it's called The Battle of Blood River.
That is almost impossible to find.
If any of our listeners out there have a copy, please get in touch with us at AR.
I would love to see that.
It's a very difficult book to come across.
I wonder why, Mr. Kersey.
Oh, I've got a good idea why.
Well, our listener goes on.
This is the black colleague who was very upset they were going to go to the Vurchuka monument.
The colleague insisted this was a racist monument and that as visitors of South Africa, our first stop should be to visit the apartheid museum.
I bet that's pretty interesting too.
Similarly, an Indian colleague with whom I worked closely constantly complained that many whites in the office were racist towards both Indians and blacks.
He was particularly critical of Afrikaners and told me he refused to speak one because he'd called him a coolie during an argument.
The office was visibly Balkanized.
Each racial group worked mainly and socialized exclusively with co-ethnics.
This won't surprise any of you, but it may surprise, none of this may surprise you, but it may surprise you to know, at least for the particular deal I was working on, nearly all of the senior lawyers, businessmen at the negotiating table were white.
Black professionals were present, but never as key decision makers.
I worked extensively with a white lawyer who had successfully emigrated to Australia, re-qualified as a lawyer there, found work in Sydney without much difficulty, but he ultimately moved back to South Africa because the costs of living are so much lower.
Middle-class South Africans, middle-class South Africans, uh-oh, watch out, you know what's coming, can easily afford to hire full-time domestic help.
It was explained to me that returning to South Africa after several years abroad is not uncommon.
My sense, however, is that many of them are willing to come back only after they've gotten a foreign passport.
Now, what's it they used to say about white South Africaners, white South Afrikaners, that they are more willing to be killed in their bed than make their own bed.
Regrettably, yes.
Yes.
Our listener goes on to say, I came away with the impression that South Africa is not collapsing, but declining steadily.
The potholes, the broken traffic lights are more numerous.
The threat of violent crime gets more serious.
Corruption seems to be a huge problem, and I don't think anyone in South Africa believes the authorities will ever solve these problems.
Towards the end of my trip, I visited Soweto.
That stands for Southwest Township, by the way, an infamous township once home to Nelson Mandela.
This was a disturbing showcase of poverty and disorder that I was largely insulated from while in Sandton.
I think many whites are content to live in an oasis like Santon so long as they can enjoy the fancy restaurants and cheap domestic help while keeping a comfortable difference from distance from the Sowetos, of which I suspect there are a great number.
I believe this to be the case not only in South Africa, but also in places like Brazil.
And potentially, and I think this is very interesting, Mr. Kersey, potentially in the future in the USA, Canada, and parts of Western Europe.
What I saw in South Africa seems to belie the predictions of many in our circles that once we're forced into a corner, whites will opt for radical solutions such as remigration or secession.
My experience seems to suggest that adaptation and insulation may be more likely.
What are your thoughts, he says?
Well, I've worried about that for a long time, frankly.
If it is a choice between submission, surrender, and war, well, then let it be war, a thousand times war.
But I think it's entirely possible.
The white man may go out just with a whimper, may just let ourselves be pushed aside.
We'll build little cocoons for ourselves.
We'll hire security guards.
We'll go down not fighting, but just, I don't know, making lives for ourselves as comfortable as possible and not thinking about our posterity.
Of course, we have the example of Irania.
They are going to build more than a cocoon.
I think I hope they will build a fortress.
But no, that's entirely a possibility.
And I know white people live in South Africa, and they can, as they point out, you kind of live in the interstices, live in the safe oases, and you can live quite comfortably.
You can hire a nanny.
You can hire a gardener.
You can hire a driver.
And some of these very pleasant black people can work for you until they decide they don't want to work for you and decide to slit your throat.
Or until they stop being pleasant.
I mean, the fact is, don't hire blacks if you're in one of these areas.
I mean, I think about the whites in Detroit.
We're not going to talk about this story, but the breakdown of the most dangerous cities in America came out for 2025, Mr. Taylor, and Jackson, Mississippi, which is 82% black, the capital of Mississippi, came in by far the most dangerous city in America.
It was actually shocking the amount of violent crime per 100,000 residents in that city.
I wouldn't be shocked.
But I agree.
But you think, gosh, what are the 14% white people who still live there?
What do they do?
How do they get around?
They have no representation.
They have no voice.
Then you look at the other cities, sir.
It's Detroit, which is 78% black and 9% white.
Well, the people who live there, they're white people who live in Berkeley, California.
There are white people who live in Selma, Alabama.
You have these tiny little aunties.
We have white people living in beautiful mansions in, believe it or not, Memphis, Tennessee.
It is possible to do that.
You've actually been to some of those houses in Memphis, Tennessee.
They're absolutely gorgeous.
And they're not far from the downtown from Beale Street.
Oh, no.
Well, if you've been inside them, you live in a higher social class than I, Mr. Kersey.
I just walk by them and admire them.
But, yep, white people can manage, if they're not actually going door to door with their machetes, trying to slit our throats, that you can probably arrange your life so as to move in ways that are not all that terrifying.
But no, I do not want that kind of submission.
We have to make a stand.
And of course, it takes a certain amount of money.
It's the well-heeled ones who can do that.
Anyway, here's another comment.
Have you ever written a memoir about your adventures in Africa as a young man?
The answer to that question is no.
I took some notes.
Maybe someday I'll do that.
But I'm busy doing an awful lot of other things, doing this podcast.
It's a lot more fun, I think, than trying to write my memoirs.
But as I look back, sometimes I page through that stuff and I say to myself, gosh, did I really do that?
Did I really spend a night in a tree while wild dogs were barking away at the bottom of the tree?
I guess I'd say.
It's like Conan the Barbarian and John Millius' film.
I will say this.
I saw an interview you did recently where you talked about how a trip to Liberia and a conversation about the Ivory Coast and how that had been colonized by whites in Liberia had never been colonized by whites.
That was one of those moments where a lot of the illusions you had melted away.
Well, I clung to them desperately.
But yes, a black Liberian telling me, well, of course our country's a mess.
We didn't have the benefit of being colonized by white people.
What?
I was 19 years old.
I was a good little liberal.
I was shocked.
How could a black man say such a thing?
It's funny because we're going to talk at length about Minneapolis here in a moment.
And for our listeners who don't know this, Minnesota is home to the largest Liberian diaspora in the world.
Yes, Minnesota has a Liberian refugee population of over 40,000 people.
Isn't that astonishing?
We set up a country in 1820, by the American Colonization Society for Freed Blacks.
And, what, 1859, I believe, they declared their independence.
And it's a black-run government with a facimile of our Constitution.
And now we have refugees from that black-run nation in Africa, in Minnesota.
Because it's an African country run by Africans.
Well, let's see.
Let's continue with our comments.
A listener writes, a poet laureate in Nebraska, and now she's black.
It never ceases to amaze me how these extremely white areas kowtow to minorities.
It's like the people living in New England who are so sheltered from non-whites, they become liberal.
I hope as the tide of color rises, our people will see the truth.
But I tend to be more like Mr. Deanna, who points out there are still liberals in South Africa.
We were just talking about that.
Another comment.
I see it and hear it all the time.
All roads lead to Obama.
It's said that Barack Obama was the secret hand of the Biden administration.
I've heard that he maintains a residence in Washington, D.C., even as a former president, breaking precedent in this manner.
His home is also said to have a large parking lot with plenty of space for national and world leaders to come for secret meetings.
However, from reading American over the years, I get the impression that although his election was a severe blow to white racial identity, Obama was little more than a useful puppet, a tool for the anti-white crowd.
What is your view?
Obama, mastermind or just another tool?
Well, I don't think he's a mastermind, but I don't think he was just a tool either.
I think that Barack Obama had his own ideas.
I don't think he was manipulated from long distance by people.
I don't think he's manipulating people by long distance himself.
I never believed this idea.
There is one thing that he once said.
He says, hey, it'd be great after a president sit around in my sweats, and I've got the ear of the president not telling, hey, why don't you do this?
Why don't you do that?
That'd be so much fun.
Be kind of a shadow president, not even have to wear a suit.
I think that was pure fantasy.
I do not think that happened.
I know a lot of people believe it.
And I don't think that Biden, except in his last years, was really completely, completely under the control of outside influences that are powerful.
Whenever you ask people, okay, who was pulling the strings, name them, they have a hard time doing so.
They just assume, okay, well, he can't have been in control.
He's too much of a bonehead.
Or maybe Barack Obama, he couldn't have been in control.
He was too much of a bonehead.
Well, okay, who is in control?
Let's hear some names.
No, I think those people, they have a lot of power.
And by the time you get to be president of the United States, you are used to exercising power and you want to exercise power.
And you're not going to just take orders from anybody or everybody or any particular body.
That's my simple-minded view of things.
Where did I go wrong?
I think he's enjoyed being an executive producer with his deal with Netflix, he and Michelle, far more than he has been president.
I think he was bored being president.
I think the only times we really saw him really enjoy his time as president was during the second term when all the stuff was.
When he was shooting hoops when he was shooting hoops with his bros, I think he really enjoyed that when you had that beer summit after he said the officer acted stupidly.
No, again, I think in a lot of ways he was bored.
He wasn't able to monetize the presidency as he has afterwards.
And again, as a Netflix shareholder, I pay attention to what's going on.
I know you used to get in the mail, you used to get snail mail from Netflix, and you're probably one of the few people in America who was still getting those movies.
I got those dishes all streaming.
But it is fascinating to look at how many of the programs you watch that he influences-uh, documentaries, series.
Do you think he really spends any time on this stuff?
I think he's happy when I think he's happy whenever that payment hits his bank account and they buy up some more.
That's not the same thing.
No, I don't look at it.
He's just a name.
He's just a name they plaster on the credits.
I was going to make a joke about him being a time-traveling Sumerian, but I guess that's probably too inside the bark, inside the park for what's happening right now if no one's paying attention to that.
Anyways, no, he's not.
Look, he was, yes, his second term, he did do some really horrible things with the refugee resettlement, sir.
If you look at what happened with Somalis really ramping up between 2011 and 2016, he was definitely down with the brothers.
He was.
And Al Sharpton visited the Oval Office how many times during his presidency?
Far more than that.
More than you had at the Trump White House.
50 times or something?
Just incredible.
That guy would march in and say, hey, Brock, baby.
And they'd put their heads together and he'd figure out what's good for the brothers.
But no, I don't think he is either a wire puller, and I don't think his wires are being pulled either.
Well, I'm going to put you on the spot here.
What if you were invited to the Trump White House for a quick little lunch?
What would you tell Mr. Trump about what he's doing right now?
If you had the ear of the president for a lunch and he offered you a couple of Diet Cokes and he said, Taylor, it's really fantastic to meet you.
What would you actually say to him and utilize that time?
I would tell him that what he's doing with regard to race is absolutely wonderful.
But he is jeopardizing the longevity of his wonderful things on race by all of his adventures overseas.
The tariffs threatening to absorb Canada or Greenland, making people angry unnecessarily, unnecessarily.
All of this stuff is a terrible distraction.
What matters most is white people, Mr. President.
You're white.
I'm white.
The people you love are white.
We have to make America a home for white people.
That's what you have to work on.
Don't worry about Iran.
Don't worry about Venezuela.
Don't worry about Israel.
Worry about America and make America safe for white people.
That's what I would say to him.
I don't feel like I'm on the spot at all.
That's pretty bad.
Would he listen to me?
Would he listen to me?
He might listen, but then he'd go listen to somebody else.
I'd tell him, look, Stephen Miller is the guy.
Well, of course, Stephen Miller is all about absorbing Greenland and taking over Venezuelan oil.
I think, look, look, Donald Baby, keep your eye on what really matters: white people.
But anyway, on the subject of white people, always on the subject of white people.
Yes, always on the subject of white people.
Boy, the white people in Minneapolis are a bunch of loony tunes, aren't they?
The latest wrinkle, of course, in this unending saga of ICE simply trying to do its job and round up illegal immigrants and kick them out of the country.
I'm sure probably by now everyone has heard, I guess it was yesterday, that ICE was trying to arrest an illegal immigrant from Venezuela, a pretty nasty guy.
He broke loose.
An ICE agent tackled him, and then lo and behold, while he's trying to arrest him, out come two more people.
They start attacking our ICE agent, an ambushed by three people, one guy wielding a snow shovel, and something that I haven't seen in the news yet.
Was it a metal snow shovel or a plastic snow shovel?
That makes a difference in my mind.
But either way, that can be a potentially lethal weapon.
And somebody else is wielding a broomstick.
I don't think that's particularly dangerous.
But I think when three guys are coming at you and they're trying to kill you with broomsticks and snow shovels, this guy opens fire, wounds the illegal alien Venezuelan in the leg.
That's too bad.
I always think it's a pity when they wing them.
So we're going to spend thousands patching this guy up and shoving him around the country and finally getting him on an airplane and getting him back to Venezuela, wherever it's willing to take him.
In any case, that was the big news.
I think that was just yesterday, wasn't it?
And then Governor Tim Waltz, he says, the ICE operation is a campaign of organized brutality against the people of Minnesota.
What a dope.
Can you really have an IQ more than a fried egg and be a government of a governor of a state in the United States and say this is a campaign of organized brutality against the people of Minnesota?
They're there to arrest illegal immigrants, Tim Baby.
Can't you figure that out?
And he called on Minnesotans to follow ICE around, make noise, take videos.
He asked residents to help officials create a database of the atrocities against Minnesota.
Atrocities?
Are they torturing them to death?
Are they pulling their hair out by the roots?
What in the world is he talking about?
And then after this, and after the shooting, there are these firecracker attacks, more rioting, nighttime rioting in Minneapolis.
And of course, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, he asked people to report possible violations of constitutional rights.
Sure, everybody in Minneapolis knows what's a violation of a constitutional right and other incidents involving federal law enforcement.
Tell that to the Attorney General Keith Ellison.
Keith Ellison's job, presumably, is to enforce the law.
These are illegal immigrants.
This is something that is just, well, I've gotten over being astonished.
Every New Year's, Mr. Kersey, I make a resolution.
Do not be surprised at the goofiness of Americans, particularly white Americans.
But Keith Ellison, he's supposed to be a guy who enforces the law.
These people here are legally.
It's ICE's job to take them away.
This is what we voted for.
Leave these people alone.
And now, of course, President Trump has threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act to deploy troops to quash these protests.
Now, before I go any further on that, Mr. Kersey, what are the odds?
Would you lay odds as to whether or not the Insurrection Act will actually be invoked?
Well, I read a book called, Frankly, We Did Win the Election.
It was a book by Michael Bender about the 2020 election.
And there's a passage, sir, where Trump, Millie, and Miller are in the bunker of the White House.
If you recall, at the end of May of 2020, the White House fences were breached by hundreds of Antifa.
It sent 60 Secret Service agents to the hospital.
It was a battle, and there's still not enough information about what actually happened.
However, nobody talks about it.
No one talks about it.
However, Bender spends three pages in the book talking about how Mike Pence, of all people, the vice president, broached the idea of doing the Insurrection Act.
And Millie said, what are you guys talking about?
You know, look at that picture up there.
That's Abraham Lincoln.
What he faced, that was an insurrection.
What we face, this is a protest.
And the chain of command basically, they realized at that point, I don't think the military would have gone along with it.
And right now, the question is: you've got how many agents from ICE?
Something like that.
What's it?
3,000?
I think it's over 3,000 agents.
They're flooding the zone.
Last night was, I think, one of the first nights you saw federal prison guards protecting and adding muscle to protect the ICE agents because some of these videos are getting frightening in terms of what these people are facing.
And we're going to talk about these groups that are harassing, tracking, stalking the ICE.
Because this is making life help.
You know, if all they did was follow him around and blow on whistles all day, or like Amy Goode, was that her name?
This lesbian Renee Good is her.
Renee, sorry, Renee Goode, this person who got shot.
She's just leaning on her horn the whole time.
You're trying to do your job.
People are surrounding you, blowing whistles.
I think after about 10 minutes of that, I'd be ready to shoot people.
I mean, seriously.
She's part of this well-organized network called Ice Watch, which they were featured.
Another organization was featured prominently in a Minneapolis Star Tribune article, sir, that was published on December 30th, 2025, front page story where they're just bragging about this massive network that was created.
And this was before the real big buildup of ICE agents that we've seen.
You know, before we get to that, and I definitely, I think we really ought to talk about this sort of ride along with AIDS.
But I'm going to answer it.
I need to answer your question.
I apologize.
Is it going to happen?
By saying 2020 versus no, I think you're probably at about 80 to 85 percent because you have to go back to the Supreme Court decision to force Trump to remove the guard from Chicago, which happened.
And all the videos we saw of the violence that happened with ICE agents in Chicago.
And they basically, I believe in the dissent, Kavanaugh said, well, you basically have one choice, the Insurrection Act.
I think he's going to be forced into the situation to do it.
I hope that doesn't come to it, sir, because I think you need to show the federal government can handle this without having to call the military in.
And that's what this massive ICE incursion is.
I looked into this.
And apparently, it's an act passed in 1807.
The country was young.
And it gives the president the power to send military forces to states to quell widespread public unrest and to support civilian law enforcement agencies.
Now, before invoking it, the president must first call for the insurgents to disperse.
Calm down, you lesbian weirdos.
Calm down.
And if stability is not restored, the president may then issue an executive order to deploy troops.
Now, do you know when the last time the act was used?
Insurrection Act, I would say 1992.
You go to the head of class.
That was after the Rodney King riots.
It was a pretty bad time.
Was that as bad, though, as the BLM madness?
I wouldn't think so.
BLM madness went on for months and months and months.
If you can call him out for Rodney King, maybe you can call him up for what's going to be going on in Minneapolis.
Well, and as I, as you and I talked about in that podcast, sir, regarding Katrina, we'll never know what Blackwater did to regain order.
Those few days.
Armed forces.
New Orleans.
Armed forces have been used to quell civil disturbances after natural disasters, such as the widespread looting in St. Croix, U.S. and Virgin Islands, after Hurricane Hugo in 1989.
Now, guess what kind of people live in the U.S. Virgin Islands, Mr. Kersey?
It ain't the kind of folks who live in Minneapolis, so it's sort of more like the newcomers to Minneapolis.
Yeah, it's not a lot of.
But in ACIS.
Yep, yep.
Well, so who knows?
I hope it doesn't come to that either.
I would hate to see federal troops there.
But you know what?
It does bother me.
I guess I am kind of a fiscal sobriety kind of a guy.
How much does it cost per day to have 3,000 ICE agents in Minneapolis because they have to just protect other ICE agents who are doing their jobs?
If there was cooperation from the city, I bet they could get the job done with 300 ICE agents.
Now they got 3,000 ICE agents.
Well, Georgia and Florida, Brian Kemp and Governor DeSantis, to their respective credits, they basically ordered all the jurisdictions to work with ICE.
And you're seeing no problem, especially in Florida, where I believe they've arrested 20,000 illegal aliens.
Well, there you go.
And I bet it doesn't.
Governor Landry has basically said, guys, all the parishes are going to work with you.
And the early part of this year, we've had some pretty big ICE incursions into New Orleans, Orleans Parish.
They had a pretty robust goal of arresting 5,000 illegal aliens.
They got to about 10% of that, and then they had to redirect all those assets there to Minneapolis.
Well, on X, I saw somebody making the point: look, if the people of Minneapolis are going to put up a stink, just remove all the illegal aliens from the places who will cooperate.
And guess where the illegal aliens will all go?
They will go to Minneapolis and let them just rub their noses in their own defecation.
Make sure they all go to these sanctuary areas, see how they like them, Apple's.
That's one idea.
But I also do like the idea.
If people are really going to put their backs up, well, we'll show them who's boss.
I like that attitude.
I prefer the latter attitude.
And I'd like to also point out that in 2024, we all knew that the election was about mass deportations.
And Kamala Harris won Minneapolis, I'm sorry, Minnesota, 51 to 46.9%.
So it was 51.1 to 46.9%.
1.5 million people in Minnesota voted for mass deportations.
Now, obviously, Hinnepin County, which is where Minneapolis is located, it went 70-27 for Harris to Trump.
197,000 people in Hennepin County still voted for Trump.
And we knew what this meant.
And the state has changed.
I'm born in 85.
I mean, the state in 1980 was 97% white.
And now it's substantially less than that.
It's about 77%.
Yeah.
And we did the Great Replacement in Minneapolis.
You know, this is basically the epicenter for the refugee resettlement of Hamong, of Karen, of Liberians, of Somalis.
None of this stuff was even in existence when Mondale ran against Reagan in 84.
And remember, I asked you, the only state that Mondale won in that landslide victory when Reagan won 49 states in 1984, sir, was Minnesota.
And he only won by 4,000 votes.
Things have changed.
Things have changed.
But there are many cases who deserve to be liberated from this wild.
Of all the people in Minneapolis who voted for Trump, I suspect there are very few who are on the streets praising ICE because even to be there to praise them, you are part of a crowd.
You are still getting in their way.
And I bet that if there were an anonymous one-man, one-vote poll, it would be very interesting to see how many people who live in Minneapolis actually support what ICE is doing.
In any case, well, do regale us with that story that you had of the ICE disruptors.
There's sort of a ride-along.
Sometimes you can go to police department and get a ride-along with a cop and somebody had a ride-along with a criminal.
So this is actually from the Minnesota Reformer.
This is a leftist site in the car with the Minneapolis community patrols working to disrupt ICE operations.
The article notes that this was published January 13th.
More people are joining the movement after the fatal shooting of Renee Goode.
So I guess there's an endless supply of disgruntled lesbians in Minneapolis.
There always has been.
As Ellie Neubuyer drove before dawn past the darkened windows of the immigrant-owned businesses on Lake Street, Minneapolis, her co-pilot and friend, Patty O'Keefe, scanned the passing vehicles with binoculars, searching for signs of immigration and customs enforcement agents.
I don't know why ICE doesn't just give them all tickets to the LPGA and let them go watch some professional women golf, but whatever.
As the sun rose, more community patrollers arrived on Lake Street, keeping eyes on the Ecuadorian grocery stores, Somali restaurants, and Mexican taco shops that line the street.
And that place sounds vibrant.
With such a high concentration of patrollers and relatively few federal agents in the area that morning, Neubauer and O'Keeffe decided to head south to the suburb of Bloomington, where O'Keeffe said she had encountered ICE the day prior.
What's this?
These ICE patrollers outnumber the actual ICE agents or the vehicles?
Good grief.
But carry on.
Yeah, exactly.
The goal is to distract them, to occupy their time, O'Keefe said.
The more time they're trying to get away from us, the less time they're spending searching for people to abduct.
That word, that adjective, abduct.
These people have no right to be here.
And it's astonishing.
Kevin Deanna, we did the view from the right, and he, of course, calls it a religion that these leftists have.
And it's why they have to do everything they can to engage in this type of ICE watch activity.
In my opinion, it's as simple as the racists can't be right.
We can't let the racists win.
And if these illegals are making life worse for us, hey, that's great.
We deserve it.
We're on stolen land.
White people don't deserve this privilege.
And why should we have a privilege of having these illegals removed, even if it does mean a quality of life change for the better?
So it's an interesting question.
I'm curious what you think.
Well, I don't think that they actually want more crime.
I know Kevin Deanna sometimes thinks that.
There's this with this slogan, the purpose of a system is its effect, or whatever is happening, that was intended to happen.
I think a lot of things are unintended.
And I don't think people want more crime.
I think they want to be on the side of the angels.
They think that these people are wonderful neighbors or they can be wonderful neighbors.
We are lovely, lovely, generous people by letting them in.
And these ICE people, they literally think they are the Gestapo.
They are fighting Nazi Germany, Mr. Kersey.
I saw that tweet you did of Trump looking in the mirror and Hitler was looking back at him.
And you said, I think these people really believe this.
I think they really do.
I think they really do.
And for them, you can call it a religion if you like.
It is their passion in life.
They think they are with the maquis in the French resistance.
They think they're, I don't know, with Spartacus fighting the Romans, that this is just this holy battle against pure evil.
I think that's really what's on their minds.
And it is true as far as changing their minds.
If they then have to reach a conclusion that in effect says, my gosh, Kevin Deanna, Jared Taylor, Paul Kersey were right.
We were wrong.
That's intolerable.
That's just intolerable.
But I don't think they want more disorder, more crime, more druggies, more drugs on the streets, more murder.
I don't think they want that, but they are willing to put up with that in order to feed their insatiable desire for righteous indignation.
But anyway, speak of righteous indignation, as we go back to O'Keeffe and Neubauer.
The pair quickly located and started following a white Ford Explorer they suspected belonged to ICE.
They were there, suspected.
The driver began weaving through suburban parking lots with Neubauer close behind, seemingly trying to confirm he was being followed.
They do and will say anything to try and intimidate and scare people, Neubauer said.
One of their favorite lines recently is: This is your one and only warning.
The explorer came to a stop at a hotel parking lot, Neubauer parked nearby.
The driver of the Explorer then pulled his vehicle behind Neubauer's car, blocking the exit.
A man with a black face covering and a tactical vest peeking through his flannel shirt exited his car and approached the passenger door, gesturing for O'Keeffe to roll down the window.
No, thank you, Neubauer said, smiling and waving at the man.
Stop following, he said, his voice muffled through closed car window in the gator.
This is your first warning.
Neubauer and O'Keeffe started patrolling their South Minneapolis neighborhood recently with Trump admin ramping up its mass deportation campaign.
They are some of the many thousands of Twin Cities residents who have come together over the past year to protest ICE and divert the agents from their mission, often resulting in tense confrontations, like the one that we saw with Renee Goode and her wife, which wasn't that far, can you believe it, from George Floyd Square?
It was only a few blocks from George Floyd Square when this happened.
Symbolic.
Yeah.
Real quick.
So this is part of, again, Operation Metro surge.
The effort to disrupt ICE operations has only grown in the days after ICE agent Jonathan Ross fatally shot Renee Goode in her car.
There are now at least four times more immigration agents in the state than there are Minneapolis police officers.
This article doesn't point out that there have been at least more than a score of Minneapolis police officers who have quit and applied to ICE since this has all started.
I've been seeing that tweet that has been verified actually by DHS, which I think is extraordinary.
What does that tell you that Mayor Frey's police force is quitting in droves so they can go be a part of an organization where they're no longer handcuffed and allowed to actually make the city and the country better for our citizens?
Citizen observers are gathering on street corners and posting on social media to connect with each other.
And immigrant rights organizations are quickly reaching capacity at training sessions for people who want to learn how to support and defend immigrants, illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants.
That's right.
They want to figure out every possible way to keep the law from being enforced.
It's a sickness.
It's a sickness unto death, exclusive and unique to white people.
It really is.
I mean, I've been, there's one guy that, oh, God, he's, I think he's a professor who's going around and he's live tweeting the locations.
I'm sorry, he's not a professor.
He's a Minnesota State rep Brad to Tabkey.
He's doxing live locations of ICE officers in Minneapolis to help illegals evade arrest and guide anti-ICE agitators who look for agents to harass.
Again, can you imagine people of any other race behaving this way?
No.
No, only white people.
These people are here illegally.
They go on welfare.
They commit crime.
They displace us.
They take our jobs.
They take our housing.
But we are going to get in the way of the people who are trying to boot them out, even if they're criminals, even if they're hatchet murderers.
This is a sickness unto death that is exclusive to our people.
Yeah, the one video that I saw was from St. Cloud at a shopping complex where it was all Somalis.
There's two white ICE officers were overwhelmed by the crowd that came out.
They were trying to arrest somebody, and they were basically the violence was there.
You could feel it in the video.
It's palpable.
And they retreat because they didn't have enough backup.
And you're asking yourself, why is there a Somali enclave in St. Cloud?
Why is there a Somali enclave in Minneapolis when you watch Blackhawk down and you think to yourself, what were we doing in Somali to begin with?
We're trying to feed them.
And now, why are there Somalis in Minneapolis?
Because we're trying to feed them.
We're doing changes.
We're helping them.
Because as you point out, as I think I told you, the most astonishing thing about Somalia and their ability to have temporary protective status and to be refugees, the nation has gone from 5 million to 19 million people from 1992 to 2026.
That seems pretty stable when you have that type of population growth.
I guess they're regular to their meals.
They manage to eat something.
But getting back to this, getting back to this sordid story, after the man finished talking to the patrollers and got back into his white explorer, a second vehicle, a black JMC UConn SUV, pulled him behind him, blocking a new buyer's car while the explorer drove away.
They followed the black SUV out of the parking lot.
I wonder how many forced, I wonder how many first warnings we can get today, O'Keefe said half jokingly.
She evidently ran out of warnings two days later when federal agents smashed in her car window, dragged her and her co-pilot out of the car and held them for eight hours in the belly of the Whipple Federal Building.
Again, you've got this situation where these people feel emboldened, empowered, and it's astonishing that there are networks that have been created.
Who's funding them?
Who's helping them?
Who's doing all this?
The fact is, it doesn't take that much money.
It takes social networking and it takes fanatics.
And they probably don't even have to be.
I bet nobody paid them to do that.
This is like a worship service.
It is their religion.
This is how they show how pure they are, how noble, how brave.
I bet there's hardly any money changing hands at all.
Would be my guess.
Somebody giving them gas money?
I don't know.
They love this.
Yeah, and just a couple more paragraphs just to really clarify how they love it.
The rapid responders have gotten more proactive, setting off on neighborhood patrols, finding and following ICE agents to try and discourage them from making arrests.
They also film the agents in actions to document potential violations of law.
Neubauer said if they know that somebody is watching, they're significantly less likely to stop them.
Often when they pull over and people hop on a whistle or on their horn, they'll just leave.
In group chats, neighbors use anonymous nicknames, volunteer to assist with various aspects of the operation.
No one assigned shifts or jobs.
Group members take on a needed role when they're available, alert the group to their activities and let them know when they're done.
They might actually be out there, you know, they might be doing Uber DoorDash.
You might actually be, if you're ever in Minneapolis and you're got an Uber ride, you might inadvertently be part of one of these organizers.
This is volunteer work.
This is charity work.
These are bored lesbians and wimpy soy boys, people who think that this is how they get merit badges.
It would actually be a lot of fun if I weren't so busy.
I would try and convince about 10 people to go to Minneapolis, rent white SUVs, and just drive around in black clothing, black aviators, black hat, and just try and be decoyed.
Decoy.
Hey, guys, why are you following me?
Is something wrong?
Yes.
Are you ICE?
No?
No, I'm just visiting paying my respects to George Floyd Square.
What are you guys following me for?
Tell them you are ICE.
Lead them on a goose chase.
I don't know.
Crazy stuff.
That would make for fun live streaming, by the way.
It would.
It would.
That's a great idea.
Well, for a quick change of scene here, somebody was passing around this list of federal judges with unpronounceable names.
And I thought I would try to read them all.
I'm braver about this than you are.
I just don't care how to enunciate these names correctly anymore.
I just think that there's something about the ring to them that sounds so alien, so un-American.
And to think that these are the names of people who are federal Article III judges approved by the Senate, who have an enormous power in this country that make decisions that matter to you and me and everyone who lives in the United States.
And there's one by the name of Sparkle Sukhnanan.
Sparkle, that's her first name, Judge Sparkle.
There's an Indira Talwani.
And I'll mention who appointed these.
Every one of them was either Biden or Obama.
Biden or Obama.
Mostly Biden.
Biden appointed a lot of judges and used to brag about how many blacks, how many non-whites, how many women.
This was his major achievement.
Arun Srinivas Subramanian, Biden.
Zahid Nisar Kuraishi, Biden.
Nusra Jahan Chaduri, Biden.
Amir Hatem Vadi Ali, Biden.
Baame Ewusi Mensa Frimpong, Biden.
Frimpong, what a name.
John Hushangen Chun, Biden.
Tanya Su Chutkin, Obama.
Amit Priyavadan Mehta, Obama.
Shalina Deborah Kumar, Biden.
Sanket Jaishuk Bulsara, Biden.
Diane Gujarati, Biden.
Manish Suresh Shah, Biden.
Now, doesn't that warm the cockles of your heart?
As I say, these people, these sauna.
These people, what's that?
Like a sauna.
Like a sauna.
These are the people who are ruling over us, ruling over us.
And then, let's see, something else here.
For another change of scene, then we'll go back to a more your style of story here.
But it is just a few months away from the opening of the Obama Presidential Library.
And the library itself is accepting job applications.
But you have to be someone who shares the organization's commitment to anti-racism and equity, according to its website.
It's looking to fill 150 job openings.
And the openings are applicable until January 31st.
You've still got time.
And it can be from custodians to ambassadors of hope who greet visitors.
I guess that's like Walmart greeters.
You can be an ambassador of hope.
I think that would be a great job for you.
Within its job description advertising for a full-time security officer, the website notes that it's an equal employment opportunity, deeply committed to creating an actively anti-racist organization, leveraging our global reach to combat systemic racism and inequity wherever it exists.
And as a security officer, I suppose you're supposed to bear those ideas constantly in mind.
But now, this is my favorite part of this solicitation for applicants.
The center describes its team.
These days, people don't have employees.
They have teams.
They do.
The teams are equal parts dreamers and doers.
Wow.
Isn't that sounds like a paradise for goof offs, doesn't it?
Equal part dreamers and doers.
How saving time to do when you're dreaming all most.
Why didn't you mop that floor?
Come on.
That was my dream time.
Don't make me do.
It's equal part dream, equal part do.
And the website says we're committed to creating an anti-racist organization in order to do our part to help combat racism and equity in all forms in communities across our nation and around the world.
While you're dreaming rather than doing, you are fighting inequities all around the world if you weren't for the Obama Library.
And that after years of delay, lawsuits, and federal reviews that pushed the timeline back from its initial opening in 2021, it's finally an open.
Only five years too late.
I guess they built that building on CPT.
And if you don't know what CPT is, we're not going to explain.
It's on 20 acres, this place.
And locals lampooned the design of the massive, mostly windowless building as the Obama Lisk.
I think that's pretty funny.
I think maybe, you know, I wondered also, maybe it doesn't have windows because you can withstand rioting that way.
But according to the website, they have very few windows because it's so full of priceless artwork, you see.
And if the sun shines on priceless artwork, then that's not very good for it.
That's their excuse for having a building that looks like a prison, no windows.
Maybe they want to be sure there are no jumpers either.
Can't have people jumping off the Obama list.
It is aesthetically just an absolutely hideous building.
It's horrible.
But you know what they claim that it's supposed to look like?
It's supposed to look like two hands holding something.
I don't know, maybe the sacred heart of Jesus.
But that's their excuse for this incomprehensible, hideously ugly building.
Well, Mr. Kersey, you had a great couple of stories here, and I like them back-to-back, if you don't mind.
The Department of Labor has been accused of adopting a Nazi slogan, and Norman Rockwell's heirs are screeching.
Give us those stories, if you would.
We have a few minutes left.
We can fit them in.
Yeah, a social media post from the Department of Labor is attracting criticism for a period to echo a Nazi-era slogan.
Posted on January 10th: one homeland, one people, one heritage.
Remember who you are, American.
Dozens of users commented and reposted, expressing alarm and outrage of what they called an alarming echo of what the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum describes as one of the central slogans used by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party.
The slogan is one people, one realm, one leader.
Okay, I'm not quite sure I get, I guess they use the word one three times.
That's right.
That's right.
You know, that's all it takes.
Yep.
Pass the pepper.
I'm sure some Nazis said pass the pepper or pass the salt.
Is that a Nazi slogan we have to abandon from our lexicon when we're at the dinner table?
The department's post accompanied an 11-second video of a bust of George Washington over a black and white montage of iconic paintings of American history.
They include several depicting the American Revolution and popular propaganda posts from the Great War and World War II.
They didn't respond to the USA Today when they requested a comment.
It's not the first time the admin has come under fire for using images and language that mirror those used in white nationalist circles, including those with links to Nazi Germany.
Adam Tooze, a British historian and author who has written about the Third Reich in Nazi Germany, said on social media the phrase is from a white nationalist anthem.
It is.
I don't know.
I got to be blunt.
I've not heard many anthems that could be classified as white nationalists.
So what's the 111 again that's from a white nationalist anthem?
Apparently, one homeland, one people, one heritage.
Maybe that's a chorus from a song that you and I are going to have to check out to see if it exists.
We are failing delays.
It sounds like John Jay.
It sounds like our first Supreme Court Chief Justice, actually.
Yeah, we're just failures as white advocates if we don't know that anthem.
I don't know.
It's funny, people always say that.
They're like, why don't you use the term WN?
It's like, I'm an American.
Do you guys not know our history?
The word American is synonymous with white.
I mean, why be redundant?
Come on, guys.
Yes.
What does the word all-American mean?
Does all-American, does that evoke some Vietnamese kid?
No.
All-American, that's a white guy.
Anyway.
Apparently, back in August of 2025, the SPLC did a review of the Department of Homeland Security social media posts and web content, and they said the agency uses a white nationalist and anti-immigrant images and slogans and recruitment material.
Well, we've also learned that the administration agency, the DHS, have also taken to using images that idealize American history, including its agricultural and economic peaks.
Descendants of Norman Rockwell rebuked the DHS in November of 2025 for sharing the iconic American painter's work without authorization.
Three of Rockwell's works, and they have been tweeted, and they added the text, Protect our American Way of Life, Manifest Heroism.
And a quote from President Calvin Coolidge: Those who do not want to be partakers of the American spirit ought not to settle in America.
In an op-ed published in the USA Today, the family said the administration misrepresented the artists and slammed the agency for using Rockwell's work for, quote, the cause of persecution toward immigrant communities and peoples of color, end quote.
Same month, the Department of Labor unveiled a social media campaign with Rockwell-style images of primarily white men engaging in various jobs.
I actually thought those were tremendous posts.
The images are reminiscent of the 1940s and 50s government posters.
Only one of the posts features a non-white man.
The White House and DHS Security both posted an image of a man riding through a very snowy, mountainous terrain with a stealth bomber, a B-2 bomber in the air.
The text above the image read, We'll have our home again and encourage people to join us.
I thought that was actually one of the best posts that they've done.
Yeah, that was nice.
That was nice.
Well, let's see.
You know, I just looked up are Norman Rockwell's paintings copyrighted.
And the Norman Rockwell Museum explicitly states it holds no copyrights on his works and that users must secure permission for copyright holders, often the Norman Rockwell Family Agency or similar licensing entities for reproduction or commercial use.
And unless it's one of his very rare early paintings pre-1929, assume that a Norman Rockwell painting is still copyrighted and not free for unrestricted use.
For licensing and permission, contact the rights holder via the museum or related agencies.
So I guess technically speaking, the family is in the right.
So there you go.
Once again, there goes Donald Trump violating the law.
Now, can we imagine the Rockwell descendants complaining if Kamala Harris ever used Norman Rockwell?
But of course, she wouldn't, would she?
She would look at that and say, look at how racist that all was.
This is horrible.
But there you go.
Different strokes for different folks.
You know, we did not tell our listeners how to get in touch with us.
It slipped my mind because we were, I was so fascinated by what our listeners were saying.
But in the time remaining unto us, Mr. Kersey, I would like to remind listeners that we do love to hear from you.
That note from South Africa was quite intriguing, and we'd like to have nuance added to our stories if we express ourselves in a simple-minded or one-sided way, and especially if we make mistakes.
Please correct us.
I say this just about every podcast because I don't want to be part of the fake news.
I don't want to be part of the mistaken news.
So the way to get a hold of me or get a message straight to me is go to our site, amran.com.
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Go to the contact us page, and you can send a message to your servant, namely myself.
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I'd also encourage you all, if you're having fun on X and you're not following real Jar Taylor or BWLH underscore, give us a follow.
Jared, myself, and Kevin actually have three of the top 10,000 accounts on Twitter in the world, according to this one website that tracks the number of shares, retweets, and the interaction you get.
Well, you and Kevin Deanna are far ahead of me.
What are your all's numbers?
As I recall, it's pretty good what you've got.
Kevin was actually in, he was the last time I checked was just flirting with breaking the top 2,000.
He's got about 130,000 followers.
I've got about 36,000.
I was at about 6,100.
I was actually a little bit ahead of Scott Greer, who's got a new book coming out by Passage Press called White Pill, which I have on good authority.
You're mentioned in quite a lot.
So, anyways, you were just in the top 10,000.
So, you know, that was a month ago that I looked.
You know, I think I'm closing in on 120,000 followers.
But I guess I just don't tweet as often as you.
You must tweet more frequently, and that ups your impact.
But be that as it may, I think what you guys are doing is great.
And I'm so glad we're on the same team.
I would hate to be in opposition to either you or to Kevin Deanna.
Well, we are not dreamers, sir.
We are doers.
But I think sometimes we are allowed to dream.
We wouldn't be doing if we didn't have a dream.
Well, the thing is, we've already seen what the country can be, and all we have to do is work by doing to make it that way again.
We're not trying to take it to places we've never been, but take it back to what people knew was just the de facto state of the country.
Minnesota Nice.
Minnesota Nice.
1973, that Time magazine article.
That's what we're trying to make America again.
That was a treasure.
I can't thank you enough for calling that to my attention.
I used that as the point of departure for my latest video, which should go up later today.
And it's all about Minneapolis and all about Minnesota.
And you gave me the idea to do it.
And for our listeners who don't know, it was a Time magazine cover story from 1973 featuring the governor of Minnesota at the time holding a beautiful fish that he had caught.
And the story is the state that works.
You know, the criticism these days is, and I haven't seen the photographs because I haven't seen a physical copy of the or a PDF of the magazine itself.
All I've seen is the text.
But apparently, it was richly illustrated with photographs.
But guess what?
Every photograph is of a white man.
The cancer of human history splashed across the pages of Time magazine.
And now they're so embarrassed about that.
In any case, ladies and gentlemen, our time has run out.
Thank you so much for spending this time with us.
It is an honor and a pleasure for us.
And we look forward to speaking with you next week.
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