Ladies and gentlemen, esteemed listeners, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
Today is December 30th, and this will be our last Amran podcast of the year.
So we have had a very exciting year, I must say.
Would you not agree, Mr. Kersey, my indispensable co-host who is with me today?
2025 has been one of those years that I think it's going to be studied for a very long time.
A number of the things that have happened that we're going to talk about, sir, are things that probably should have happened 30, 40 years ago or that never should have happened to begin with.
But there's always time to course correct.
And I think that's what we're going to look at 2025 as being, sir, a year of course correction.
It has been an astonishing year.
But we have a few comments to get through before we talk about the year.
And boy, has it been the year of Donald J. Trump.
First comment, my grandfather, who lived half his life in the United States, worked closely with black people and had a unique perspective on them.
He said that so-called well-behaved period of the 1950s and 60s was nothing more than temporarily learned behavior from white people, a kind of ripple effect they picked up from for working with whites and being in close contact with them.
In his view, what followed was a return to their natural behavior.
Needless to say, this opinion was always opposed by my liberal parents at family gatherings whenever the topic came up.
As I grew older, I tended to agree more and more with grandpa.
What do you think was his opinion recently?
Well, I look at this from a southern perspective.
When my parents were growing up, and certainly generations before them, practically anybody was anybody.
If you weren't just dirt poor, you had some black person who worked in your home.
And often these black people were almost like family.
And these are the people who would otherwise have been on welfare.
Instead of being on welfare, they worked for white people.
They were housekeepers, they were drivers, they were gardeners.
And I think that was very good for them.
They learned a kind of upper-class behavior, and they realized that if you wanted to get ahead in life, you had to stick to certain patterns of behavior.
And all of that sort of disappeared when it was no longer the thing to have servants, or if not necessarily servants, just regular people who came around, looked after children, did the driving, gardening, that kind of thing.
And so as black people started going on welfare instead of going into service, I think that ended up creating the kind of ghetto mentality.
And perhaps this theory is true, that black people went back to a kind of more natural view of things that was not developed in this armature of white society and white thinking.
I don't know.
Do you have any views on that, Mr. Kersey?
Well, it's fascinating the year that he's speaking about.
I mean, it was, what, 1965 that Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan came out with the Negro Family, the case for national action.
If Moynihan was able to be resurrected today, I wonder what his title would be called for his book, oh my gosh, the racists were right.
It's not the black family structure.
Maybe there is something to this whole genetic component that we're not used to.
At that time, of course, what so worried him was this astonishingly high black illegitimacy rate of gasp 25 percent.
Now it's leveled off at about 70 percent, 70 percent.
Now white people are at about 25 percent.
So marriage has just disappeared from a lot of black neighborhoods.
So yes, I think there was when, at least certainly in the South, I can't speak about what was going on in the North, but there were far fewer blacks living in the North.
But traditionally in the South, blacks and whites did not live in stark segregation.
They had a lot of contact, but it was a hierarchical kind of contact.
White people were on top and they ran things.
Black people were more or less in a serving condition, but there was actual affection.
There were close relations.
And I think in that respect, it probably was good for black people to be around well-behaved white people.
Well, that, of course, was all erased with the end of Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Act in 1964 when you just saw whites and especially that hierarchy that existed within cities.
I can think of places like Jackson, Mississippi, or Atlanta, Georgia, or Birmingham, Alabama, Montgomery, Alabama, New Orleans.
Whites just left, and they built new suburbs, and over time, those suburbs were- Integration of schools chased white people out of the cities.
And while they had these segregated schools, then black and white lived more or less side by side or closer to each other than they certainly did later on.
But white people did not want their children to go to school and going to school with blacks.
And there were excellent reasons for that.
So this separation, I think all of that was very bad for race relations.
At the same time, all of this black power stuff stoking a sense of grievance among blacks, resentment, these freedom riders who came down and tried to stir up opposition to the way things were.
You know, if you talk about the way things were in the South, in this hierarchical society, and you say, oh, that was just white supremacy.
That was bad, bad, bad.
But in the ways in which blacks and whites related to each other, there was often a kind of a level of affection that you hardly find anymore.
And there was much less black misbehavior of this horrible, degenerate kind that we see.
Drug taking was the problem then, perhaps because it was harder to get drugs into the company.
There are a whole lot of things that go into this, but I think there's certain truths to that, that when black people were around white people in a more intimate sort of day-to-day contact way, it was good for them.
But anyway, let's move on to the next comment.
I understand why our leaders desire a multiracial America.
I don't understand why more average white Americans do not instinctively feel interracial mixing is wrong.
I can understand believing, as I did for many years, that citizens of all races are fully American.
I can understand thinking all people are entitled to the same rights.
What I can't understand is the apparent lack of natural revulsion at miscegenation.
I've always assumed that the desire for biological continuity was inherent.
But now I wonder.
It almost seems as though whites don't possess this instinct.
Can you explain this?
Well, I certainly agree.
I think that people who have a positive sense of who they are want their children to be like them in all ways and certainly the most obvious way, which is racially, biologically.
I remember getting into a debate with Donahue on the Donahue program about saying, I want my grandchildren to look like my grandparents.
I don't want them look like Fu Manchu or Whoopi Goldberg or Yasha Arafat.
No, no thanks.
He thought that was just awful.
But I think that's the most natural, normal, healthy thing in the world.
And Muhammad Ali would have agreed with me.
There's that famous debate he had with this English-accented guy saying, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I want my children to look like my children.
You should want your children to look like you, for heaven's sake.
But if you give people enough constant propaganda and the kind of constant propaganda we get, not just from all the institutions decided, but you turn on the television set, every single who turns on a television set anymore.
In any case, all of the advertising, these mixed-race couples, they're everywhere, absolutely everywhere, suggesting this is the most wonderful thing in the world.
I think it's just a process of propaganda.
It may be that whites, being individualistic, are less inclined to have this natural tribal loyalty to their group, their clan, their race.
But even so, I think it is still there in most whites.
Most whites do not want their grandchildren.
They don't want their children suddenly marrying off into some other race.
I think that is there, but it has been very, very rigorously repressed.
Let's see.
Last week, says a commenter, you talked about Muslims.
Here are some observations.
What's the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate Muslim?
The radical Muslim wants to kill you.
The moderate Muslim wants the radical Muslim to kill you.
A radical Muslim is a snake in the grass.
The moderate Muslim is the grass.
I think there's a certain truth to that.
After all, if you read the Quran, if you read the precepts of Islam, there is a huge hostility to anyone who is not a Muslim.
This kind of conquer them, kill them, or convert them attitude is prevalent in Islam.
And if you are Muslim, it seems to me at some level you have to believe that.
And the ones who are prepared to kill us are the ones who read the scriptures and they take it seriously.
If people read the scriptures and take it seriously, but don't themselves engage in spreading Sharia law throughout the world and converting us or killing us or enslaving us, then I suspect that they don't much mind and they look the other way when some of the more hopped-up Muslims do those things.
It reminds me a little bit, Mr. Kersey, of socialist communists.
Some people used to describe communists as just socialists who took things seriously.
Socialists really are communists, but they don't really understand the implications of what they're proposing.
This Mandami guy, he wants white people living in the fancy parts of New York City to pay for childcare, for example.
Free childcare for all New Yorkers.
What does that mean?
Well, that means that all of these immigrants and non-whites who want to have children, they're going to have childcare paid for by white people.
And ultimately, why not just expropriate the means of production, just spread everything around?
Communists are simply socialists who carry their assumptions through to their logical conclusion.
But let's see, here's another comment.
This was something that you provoked, Mr. Kersey, with your witticism of the other day.
The commenter says, your brief discussion of wanton violence caused me to try a linguistic joke on a native speaker of Chinese.
I wrote the following sentence for her.
The diners at a local Chinese restaurant were soon engaged in an orgy of wanton violence.
She assumed that this meant a food fight involving dumplings had broken out.
It took some persuasion on my part to convince her that wanton, W-O-N-T-O-N, spelled exactly like wanton, is indeed an honest-to-God word in the English language and is an adjective and not a dumpling.
See, I see all of this wanton talk about wontons lives on, Mr. Kersey.
Thank you.
Well, it's making me want some wonton soup or some food.
Goodness gracious, you got me hungry all of a sudden.
But you also got me thinking observation on what you just said about New York City.
It's going to be fascinating in the next month or two to find out in the early days of 2026 what the mayor-elect Mondani does with the $100 billion budget that he now has access to to lavishly fund all of his pet projects and what's going to happen with the police department, with the police department.
Fire department.
It's going to be fascinating.
It'll be fascinating.
You know, I just had a recorded podcast today with Officer Robinson, Officer John Robinson, and he has a very, very dark view of what's going to happen in New York City.
He thinks that the NYPD is really doom.
It's in a death spiral.
That as soon as Mamdani nails some poor cop's hide to the fence because he was doing his job, then thousands of police could just bail out.
He says a lot of people are not even going to wait for that.
They're just going to quit.
So we'll see.
And if they quit, then it'll be impossible to replace them, or they'll replace them with people who are psychopaths, thugs, criminals, rapists.
It will be a wanton orgy of unimaginable dimensions.
That's what he says.
There'll be a lot of Chinese restaurants selling wonton soup out of business, won't there?
Ah, they will be burned down.
And then the fire department, which is going to be run by this lesbian who never fought a fire in her life, who knows how that'll work.
Yes, these appointments are going to be mighty, mighty interesting.
Now, final comment: Somebody wants to know, Mr. Taylor, why do you think Jews are white simply because they look white?
Well, that's my usual criterion for deciding who's white, is if they look white.
He goes on to say, undoubtedly, Jews have contributed greatly to this country, but so have East Asians.
Why should white people be free to pursue their destiny without East Asians, but must not exclude Jews?
Well, if a group of whites wants to exclude Jews, I think that's up to them.
I believe in free and totally free association.
But I think there are some whites who not only look white, but act white and think white and are real defenders of Western civilization.
So it's not easy for me to draw a line and say, okay, Jews are just like blacks or Asians or American Indians.
They are not white.
I think some of them are essentially white.
The Ashkenazis who've lived around white people and have a lot of white genes.
I find it more difficult to draw that line.
Other people say, okay, if he's Jewish, too bad.
He's not one of our people.
But I don't see it that way.
But, Mr. Kersey, now's the time to tell people how to reach us.
And if someone wants to reach you and give you a comment about what we've talked about, a few more wanton comments from our readers, how would they get in touch with you?
Should be an email at because we live here at protonmail.com.
That's because we live here at protonmail.com.
And of course, they can reach Jared Taylor or anyone of the New Century Foundation by going to amran.com.
That's short for American Renaissance, A-M-R-E-N.com, and go to the contact us page.
You click on that, and you can send a message straight to me.
Now, I am particularly keen on being corrected as I say over and over and over, there's too much fake news out there, too much misinformation and disinformation.
We hate inadvertently to say things that are not true.
And so if we do such things, please let us know.
Call attention to us.
Call to our attention things that we've missed, some coverage that you think you'd like to see.
But now, yes, Mr. Kersey, on this occasion in December 30th, as the year comes to a close, we'd like to talk about the year at large.
And boy, this has, as I said before, been the year of Donald J. Trump.
And his first year in office has, at least as far as any racially oriented policy, been a spectacular achievement.
I know there are people who are complaining about him.
Ah, he isn't enough.
I am pleasantly surprised at all the things he has done.
I was afraid that this second four years, he would waste, just as he wasted away his first four years, but that's not at all the case.
First thing, just closing the border.
Bam.
Closing the border.
That was absolutely wonderful.
You'll give us some of the details on that.
But also, for example, his first day in office, he issued an executive order trying to get rid of birthright citizenship.
And you and I have talked about this many times, but this absurd situation.
You have two illegal immigrants who have a baby in the United States.
Instead of reaching the obvious conclusion that now you have three illegal immigrants, you've got a U.S. citizen with two parents whom you can't, who it's hard time, you have some difficulty deporting.
This is absolutely crazy, absolutely crazy.
But Mr. Kersey, you have some numbers on just how successful the border closure has been.
I believe it's been the seventh straight month of zero releases of illegal immigrants into the country.
Yeah, DHS had Secretary Christine Ohm said this.
You know, once again, we have a record low number of encounters at the border in the seventh straight month of zero releases.
Month after month, we're delivering results that were once thought impossible.
The most secure border in history and unmatched enforcement successes.
And that's all due, end quote, and that's all due to President Trump and just the stead just a desire to do this.
And that's right.
That's one of the primary functions of the federal government is to secure, to provide secure borders for the actual American citizens.
Yes, we have anywhere between, I don't know, I'd say 50 to 70 million illegal aliens.
If you believe the number of 20 million coming across just during the Biden admin.
So that's the problem, sir, that we have.
Oh, a terrible problem.
I'm not sure what numbers to believe.
There's so many wild estimates.
It's impossible to know.
These people sneaked in for years and years and years.
Joe Biden just said, come on, come on.
We didn't much care.
Who knows how many illegals there are here?
But then also, this a wonderful, wonderful thing that the administration has done is cut the refugee program.
It was $125,000 a year under Joe Biden.
He cut it first of all to zero.
And then he decided to let in some white South Africans.
And now I think we've got an annual quote of 7,500 with a priority for white South Africans escaping persecution in South Africa and also a priority for Europeans who are being persecuted because they are criticizing mass immigration.
And I think you had found a statement by the Episcopal Ministries whose business is to resettle refugees in the United States, and they're going out of business.
Isn't that correct?
Yeah, this was extraordinary because if you remember back in May when this was announced and the first group of Afrikaners came over and they were all waving the American flag, we heard the Episcopal church, the Episcopal Migration Ministries was going to cease any and all participation in this program.
And they've gotten hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars since the 1980 Refugee Resettlement Act.
And I'll just read briefly from, what's this guy's name here?
The most Reverend Sean W. Rowe, presiding bishop, the Episcopal Church.
Most Reverend.
Yes.
He said that on May 12th, I'm writing today with some significant news about the Episcopal Migration Ministries, the organization that leads our church's refugee resettlement ministry.
In light of our church's steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the Anglican Church of Southern Africa, we are not able to take this step.
Of course, that step would be they were expected to resettle white Afrikaners from South Africa, whom the U.S. government has classified as refugees.
Accordingly, we have determined that by the end of the fiscal year, the federal fiscal year, we will conclude our refugee resettlement grant agreements with the U.S. federal government.
Well, Mr. Kersey, is he saying that because they're white, it's hands-off for us?
That's the impression I got.
It is 100% the impression that is the correct impression.
He would say that as Christians, we must not be guided, not by political vigories, but by the sure and certain knowledge that the kingdom of God is revealed to us in the struggles of those on the margins.
And I guess white Afrikaners aren't in those margins.
For nearly 40 years, the Episcopal Migration Ministries has put hands and feet to our church's commitment to seek and serve Christ and migrants.
We have served nearly 110,000 refugees during this time, many of whom are now American citizens and beloved members of our communities, workplaces, and neighborhoods.
Not a one of them is a criminal.
Not a one of them is behind bars.
Not a one of them is a rapist.
No, not a one of them is on welfare.
Every one of them is a productive citizen.
Yeah, he talks about resettling Ukrainians, Conganese.
My name is who else we got here.
But basically, hold on one second.
Let me get to this one quote.
Then there's another gentleman that I thought was more important to quote from.
This was the retired Reverend Mark Stevenson, who used to actually head up the EEM, because he points out something really startling in his letter.
He's reiterating what the prior gentleman had said.
And he says, for me, the most difficult thing over the past several months has been to witness a program that has helped millions of truly oppressed and life-threatened individuals be all but shut down.
And those persons refuse resettlement because of unsubstantiated accusations of dangers to Americans.
There are 122 million people in this world who are classified as in need of resettlement in another country as a result of persecution, conflict, violence, or human rights violations.
That's roughly one out of every 67 people on the planet who are hands in waiting.
Yes, he presumably thinks we should let them all in.
Exactly.
Now, Mr. Kersey, you've been calling them gentlemen.
Just because they're right reverend, it doesn't necessarily make them gentlemen.
No, they basically want to create mendicants of every white American.
Make us beg for the scraps that they're all giving as some triumphant music is playing.
But again, the EEM has completely shut down their participation in this program.
But then again, the entire refugee resettlement industry has been effectively shut down, except for, from what I can tell, we've only gotten one plane full of South Africans.
I don't think we've seen the fanfare surrounding the arrival of any more.
I'm not sure if others have come.
We did that story a few weeks ago, sir, where a United States State Department office was actually raided by the black South African government.
And some of our State Department employees were held up as they were trying to process white asylum seekers.
Incredible.
Yes.
Well, let's see.
Another very important thing that Donald Trump did was put an indefinite hold on the diversity visa program.
This to me was the most insulting thing around.
You can join a lottery as if a green card in the United States is like a door prize or you play bingo.
And if you get a bingo, then gee, you get to live in the United States.
And this whole thing was put together as a way to let people in who had no family ties, no nothing.
And you get these people from Bhutan, people from Somalia, people from who knows where they're from.
And they end up here because it's diversity visa lottery.
And I think it was 40,000 people a year, just like a door prize.
And that has been, I don't know if that can be abolished because I believe it was set up by Congress, stupid Congress.
But at least Donald Trump has said, no more of this foolishness.
Yeah, they actually got a toaster too at that door prize.
So was it a toaster?
It was an EBT card.
That's what you mean.
They have to have something to cook the pop charts they get and the other delicacies from the store with their EBT card.
No, it really is such a joke.
That's why I say course corrections can come when you least anticipate them.
And that's one of the great things that we're discussing here.
And another thing, I think, this is perhaps Donald Trump's number one legislative achievement.
And that was the ICE budget.
That's what was passed in this Big Bad Beautiful bill.
And it was the $75 billion that was set aside for immigration and customs enforcement.
And that is something that he did, that he pushed through Congress.
This was not an executive order.
This is his legislative highlight of the year.
There are not very many legislative highlights, but that is one.
So now we can finally afford to send people out and boot the illegals.
And since Donald Trump took office, two and a half million illegals are supposed to have left the country.
And 600,000 of them were deported and the others left on their own.
And that seems to me to be one of the great things that he's been doing.
We've talked about this before also.
You terrify enough people who are here illegally and they'll go off on their own.
And this CPB app for self-deportation, what's it called?
CPB1 or CPB Home.
Maybe that's it.
And aren't they offering, isn't ICE offering an extra $2,000?
$3,000 in a plane-ride home.
Yeah, you'd think that a lot of people would take up that offer.
But there's another thing to accentuate what you just said, that big, beautiful bill, which funded ICE so significantly, we saw 225,000 Americans apply to ICE this year.
I saw that piece that just came out.
And I believe that Tom Homan, the Border Czar, has said that within the first quarter, within the first couple of weeks of Q1 2026, they're going to deploy 10,000 new ICE agents.
I think we're going to, not fireworks, but I think we're going to start to really see the impact of that big, beautiful bill and to see deportations ramp up significantly.
You know, this is going to be a terrible thing for American police departments because at this point, there are people who hate ICE, but there are a lot of people who adore ICE.
And my guess is a lot of people who would have been police officers who might have considered being police officers and who'd be replacing the ones who are just who are resigning in disgust are going to ICE instead.
And ICE seems to be getting the cream of the crop because they got so many people who want to go round up illegals and give them the heave home.
But that's going to make things even tougher for all these police departments that are undermined.
But in any case, yes, in other case, this CBB app, to me, it was brilliant to take the very same app that was used by the Biden administration so that people could make an appointment for a conversation at the border online and make it easier for them to come across.
Don't have to prove anything.
Just fill in a few forms.
In they come and turn that into a self-deportation app.
Wonderful.
And now another thing, Mr. Kersey, the whole H-1B program is changing in dramatic ways, leaving people stranded on foreign shores.
Well, this is a debate that started last Christmas, 2024, the over-reliance on some of our top tech companies to basically create jobs that are not even available to Americans, to young Americans who just graduated with degrees in computer science.
Just the vast amount of roles at Google, at Apple, at Walmart, at all these corporations who have the H-1Bs available.
And what we've learned now is in the early, as 2025 is coming to an end, I think I saw a story where some Indians were complaining that they couldn't get some of their paperwork because they were back in India visiting family.
And God forbid, they were stuck in their native land of India, which is one of the funnier headlines.
But yeah, what we're learning is that hundreds and possibly thousands of Indian H-1B visa holders who traveled back to India, like I said, in December to renew their U.S. work visas, well, they're stranded there after American consulates have canceled their interviews.
And Mr. Taylor, they've been rescheduled in some cases to October 2026.
That sounds right.
In many cases, they haven't even been given a date yet as to when their hearing will take place.
Immigration attorneys told the Washington Post that it was the biggest mess they had seen, adding that they weren't sure if the Trump administration had a plan in place.
Well, I think there is a plan in Pebble in place.
I think it's, you know, it's a pattern hold right now.
Yes, yes, yes.
They are in a patterned hole.
That's not a bug.
That's a feature, as they say, in the South African basis.
So I understand it's kind of a new thing, too, that to reapply for your visa, they had to go back to their home country.
I believe that's a new thing.
That is a new thing.
Of course, one of the things that they put in, what is it, $100,000 that companies have to put up to ensure it's not like a performance bond, but it's a fee that is associated with it.
It's a fee, but it's not per person, which is too bad.
I think I don't quite understand at what point they have to put up the $100,000, but every year, or in any case, to get the ball rolling, they got to stump up $100,000.
But also, you got to go back to your home country in order to get a renewal.
That's wonderful.
And the implication, of course, is if your renewal doesn't go through, you're home.
You're home where you belong.
You should be happy.
Yeah.
What's fascinating about this also is that the timing of this, the U.S. Department, State Department informed applicants their interviews were delayed, of course, following the rollout of expanded social media screening under the Trump admin.
The policy aims to ensure visa applicants do not pose a threat to U.S. national security or public safety.
This is, in my opinion, some of the best news of this story as we get ready to move forward.
Three immigration attorneys who specialize in H-1B cases told the Washington Post that they were handling.
dozens of stranded clients each with some firms representing more than 100 effective workers.
Most are highly skilled professionals in their 30s and 40s, primarily employed in the tech sector who've lived and worked in the U.S. for years.
Again, the H-1B story was one of the major, major sources of contention as to why this wasn't being addressed.
When you look at the amount of remittances that India, it's a diaspora of Indians going out there who are just advancing the interests of India at the expense of their host country.
Well, and one aspect of this that I was unaware of, but of which I became aware when I looked into this and did a video about how the H-1B system works, I thought these jobs had to be advertised in the United States, and you had to certify that there were no American takers.
I did too.
I did too.
Does not work that way.
Does not work that way.
And I think a lot of people think that's the way it works.
No.
What a company can do is say, okay, we want to hire people and this is the prevailing wage.
And we're going to go out to Bangalore or some other place in India and we're going to hire these people and bring them in.
They don't have to offer the job to American at all.
It's an outrageous thing.
And I'm very glad that Trump is doing this.
Of course, he waffled and Vivek's Rangaswamy, of course, saying how wonderful this is.
Get Indians here because they work harder and ordinary white people are just lazy bums.
They've got to bring them here.
Sorry, Vivek.
We can do just fine without them.
Yeah.
And just for those who want to know the exact amount, 71% of those visa holders are Indian.
Yes, and there's absolutely no reason why that should be.
Why are they all Indian?
It's because they've got this nepotistic scheme going.
It's almost like chain migration.
And the organizations that actually do the recruiting, the people who are doing the headhunting, they're all Indian companies too.
It's just that Indians have wormed their way into the whole business so that at every step of the way, you've got Indians and they are prioritizing their own people.
Yeah, which is patriotism.
Which is natural, which is, yeah, which is, which is, but at some point, don't be too upset when Americans start prioritizing Americans and what that means.
Well, that would be racism.
Well, you know that.
No.
Another great thing, and now, you know, I didn't realize this.
All of these things that Biden and everybody else were doing, and this is all preceding immigration, all preceding administrations.
There were places where ICE was off limits at churches, for example.
Also, at schools.
You couldn't, ICE could not arrest illegals at a school or at a church or at some social event, at a wedding, for example, or a quincianera where these 15-year-old Mexicans and Guatemalans, they celebrate and all the folks show up.
You could not arrest at these places.
Why should there be any safe havens for arresting these criminals?
That's all gone.
You can arrest them anywhere.
Also, the fact that TSA is now sharing information with ICE too.
That wasn't being done.
And so if the TSA discovers that, okay, here's a guy who's on the to-be-exported list is going to be flying from X to Y, then ICE can show up at either X or Y, whatsoever's convenient, and snare these people.
All of this, and I believe you had a story about how all the Medicare, the Medicaid, the Medicaid records are available to ICE now.
Yeah, this just broke, actually.
Right, right.
All of this, all of these things that were just sand in the gears, making it difficult to boot the legals who need to be booted, all of this sand is being swept out and the whole deportation process has become this well-oiled machine doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing.
And it takes time to get all these different mechanisms in place to really start working in tandem.
We've seen the HUD secretary, I forgot his name, it might be Scott Turner.
Again, starting in blanket on his name, but he's come out and said we're going to audit all the roles to make sure that no illegal aliens are getting any Section 8 housing to make sure.
I think there was a report about just how many immigrants were in public housing in New York City.
It was some shocking amount.
We talked about that on a prior podcast about how it was largely immigrants who were voting for Mandani against the actual native New Yorkers who voted for the Italian guy, Cuomo.
I can't, I forgot.
Cuomo.
Andrew, right?
Andrew Cuomo.
That's correct.
And it's just, it's simple little things like this.
It's why one of the reasons we've seen so many Democrat-run states who are refusing to hand over their SNAP roles with the federal government, which again, that kind of doesn't make any sense that it's only, you know, they're all run by states and not some federal agency, but perhaps it can be fixed.
But again, they're being forced to hand over 21 states to hand over their SNAP, their SNAP roles.
You can actually audit those.
You're not supposed to be on SNAP if you're an illegal, right?
Correct.
That's exactly.
And we've been told repeatedly that, hey, illegals aren't getting Medicaid.
Illegals aren't on SNAP.
So what's the problem handing over the roles, huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Exactly.
I mean, how many stories have we read out of Chicago or out of Charlotte or out of Los Angeles of all the public schools that saw half their students not show up when ICE started patrolling the area and arresting illegal aliens?
I think it was Charlotte, North Carolina that was almost the most significant where there were some schools where there were just empty classrooms because such a large percentage of the population of the student body are illegal aliens.
I can't remember what city it was.
This was in one of our podcasts, but there were three academies.
They call them academies, and they had to do with, I think, English speakers, English learners.
All three of them just shut down.
They just shut down because all of their students were people who shouldn't even be in the country, much less in our schools.
No, I know we have a really structured way that we're going to talk about this, but on that same note, when you're just talking about just the fear of enforcement, what that's doing, I think you're going to really see that accelerate in the first couple months of 2026.
Oh, I hope so.
Especially as some high-profile arrests happen.
What's happening, of course, Kevin Deanna and I talked about on View from the Right, but this story that Nick Shirley broke on X, which has now been viewed 110 million times of all these empty child care facilities in Minneapolis for Somalis, which is hundreds of millions of dollars.
We're now learning, sir, due to citizen journalists like the great Andrew Torba, the Gab.com CEO, he's actually put together a database where you can look at all of the child care facilities and the various states of our great union.
Well, they're empty because they always were empty, right?
Exactly.
Exactly.
It was all a money laundering scam.
It was all the way to scheme.
These ethnic, ethnic cartels, just like the Indians in H-1B, Somalis have the autism scam.
They've got the child care scam, and then they've got the Feeding Our Future scam, which was supposed to feed all these people who were hungry and poor and lived in these food deserts.
Oh, yes.
Well, you know, we got so much to cover here.
And I think one of the really important things is the extent to which Trump is exterminating DEI within the federal government.
Exterminating.
That's harsh words.
I think that's what he's doing to the point where no longer are any of these holidays like Martin Luther King's birthday.
That's not, there are no celebrations within the federal government.
You don't have any high, holy homo days the way they used to.
None of this, none of the homo month, sir.
I think it was June, wasn't it?
Was Bridge Month?
I can't, I don't know which month is.
But in any case, not all of this is gone.
No American Indian powwow days, none of this goofy stuff.
All gone.
And he's trying to get it rid of it.
And also the idea of, well, as you recall, under Biden, we talked about this also during the year.
Every piece of the federal government was supposed to put together a document to explain how they were going to diversify.
And every action of the federal government was supposed to have diversity and making black people happy as one of its key roles.
That's correct.
So that, you know, the Federal Reserve Board is supposed to keep inflation down and employment up and make black people happy.
That was going to be one of its key roles.
And NASA was going to get us to the moon, maybe to Mars, and keep black people happy.
Every piece of the government had to put some document like that together that somebody named Shalanda, who was running the OMB, would put her stamp of approval on.
All of that stuff has been completely gone.
And of course, the only way to make this happen is to stack the decks against white men.
Make sure you hire everybody but white heterosexual men.
All that's gone.
And I love the fact that when was it?
Maybe just a few weeks ago, Donald Trump had this truth social tweet in which he talked about America reaching the tipping point, the solution for which was reverse migration.
Now, what do you think he meant by the tipping point, Mr. Kersey?
Gee, too many, I don't know, too many Presbyterians coming into the country.
Well, I guess he's referring to how great of a job the Episcopalian Migrant Mission did over since 1980.
I mean, again, that's what's so shocking about all this, sir, is that this has been going on since just barely before I was born.
And when did you first start noticing?
Because you lived in Louisville, you've lived in Northern Virginia.
When did you really start to notice the impact of the refugee resettlements that was going on?
Because Northern Virginia is one of, I'd say, what, top five places for refugee resettlement?
I don't know if it was really refugee resettlement, but living in California 30, 35 years ago, in New York City, 40 years ago, they weren't necessarily refugees, but they sure weren't white people.
A lot of them, you know, Mexicans out in California, they're not refugees.
They're illegal immigrants.
Yes, refugees, that's just a drop in the bucket.
We used to get a million legal immigrants every year, 90% of whom were non-white.
So the heart seller, so it was more the heart seller.
Yes, yes, that's small.
Yes, yes.
And then the diversity visas kicked in.
Boy, Kennedy, Senator Kennedy was the one who boosted that.
He thought it was going to get more Irish.
Well, look what we got instead.
But then also, let's see, the national security strategy that was just issued in which the United States is warning Europe that it is threatened with civilizational erasure through immigration.
Yes.
I read that document with great interest.
And it said that pretty soon we'll get to the point where our NATO allies, so to speak, are no longer the nations that signed the NATO Pact in 1949.
Are these going to be reliable allies?
This is just remarkable that we should be warning Europe that it is the lights are going to go out on your continent if you turn non-white, which is what it boils down to.
I wish it had been as specific as that, but it talks about non-European immigration threatens the continent with civilizational erasure.
Remarkable for that becoming for the highest levels of the United States government.
Well, and it's documents like that, sir, that show you how many good people are quietly doing really great things within this administration.
They don't put their name on it, but they are advising.
They are consulting.
Yes.
I heard a rumor that the main author of that was Michael Anton.
I've heard the exact same rumor as well, and I tend to believe it.
I tend to believe it too.
He was with the administration.
Well, I believe he has left now for what reason I do not know.
But he's the guy who wrote that famous, what was it, the flight?
I can't even remember.
Flight 93 essay.
Flight 93 essay.
That looks like greatness.
Yes.
I have a good authority.
A lot of those people are good friends or big fans of yours, sir.
My lips are sealed.
My lips are sealed.
Anyways, no.
That document, I think you did a video on that.
Am I wrong?
I did.
I highly recommend everybody take a moment to bookmark a number of the videos that Mr. Taylor has done this year.
Because again, a lot of people want to blackpill.
A lot of people say things aren't happening fast enough.
But for things to happen as fast as we want them to, you have to have the mechanisms in place and the systems that are reversing everything that was in place for decades.
Yes.
I just don't understand.
People who are poo-pooing Trump and the administration, it's no good.
They haven't done what they said they were going to do.
I think they're trying very hard to do what they said they were going to do.
And then let's see what else we got.
Oh, we slashed the U.S. AID budget.
And hundreds, no, thousands of programs have been eliminated.
Some of them were affirming gender identity in Guatemala, coloring books to help little El Salvadorans decide that they are not the sex they were born in.
I mean, those are some of the obvious and goofy ones, but stuff that is just insane.
I think the United States of government should not be in the business of just ladling out cash or giving away food or anything to foreign countries.
I would probably read a book, sir, that detailed all the programs that USAID had and our tax dollars had paid for over the past 30, 40 years.
I think you would be utterly fascinated and it would be morbid, macabre, to read that, to see all the programs that we've funded.
Is there such a book?
Is there such a book?
No, I would like to.
Someone should put that together and just document.
I'm sure you could ask Grok or ask AI to say, hey, just list out the programs for this year, for 1998, for 2007, for 1983, and you could get a gruesome breakdown.
You use that word gruesome a lot.
It would be at the opportunity costs lost of what we lost by having to fund all this insanity and this growth and proliferation of the non-white population around the world.
And tell me this.
Do all these handouts do our country any good?
Do people like us?
I mean, does it make a difference if they like us or they don't like us?
All of this stuff is just cuckoo.
It seems to me it's a kind of missionary mentality.
We need to feed the world.
We need to cure the world.
We are the world's savior.
It's this utter white savior complex that seems to have been deeply, deeply implanted to so many white liberals.
Just gone completely crazy.
And Donald Trump.
Apparently, the budget has been slashed to practically zero.
All those people are out pounding the payment looking for real jobs.
Exactly.
Well, I'll tell you what it does.
It kept the Episcopalians happy for 40 years.
45 years.
And the happiness of Episcopalians is not a major concern of mine, Mr. Clinton.
No, no, no.
In fact, the more upset they are over their historic ties to the Anglican Church of South Africa and whatever unwritten agreement they have, the better in my eyes.
They can go join the South Africans if they think the United States has become this terrible thing.
They can go over to those hijacked buildings, sir, that we talked about last week in Joe Burg.
Wow.
Yes, what a nightmare.
Now, the other thing, this is just recent news, too.
I was thrilled when it turned out that we banned four Europeans coming to the United States.
They can't come.
And the reason is that they are engaged in censorship.
And it's censorship that affects American citizens expressing views that are certainly legal in the United States, and they got no business doing it.
And one of them was Thierry Breton.
He's a former European Union commissioner.
And he was one of the key architects of the European Union's Digital Services Act, which is this terrible law that requires anybody who's in the social media business to do the kind of censorship that the Europeans want.
And then there's a fellow named Imran Ahmed.
You can tell for sure.
He's going to be a real free speech champion.
He's a CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate.
Digital hate.
You know, I think it was last week we had a guy who's fighting organized hate.
Well, this guy counters digital hate, and it combats online hate and disinformation.
And I'm sure we would fit into that category, you and I. Imran Ahmed can decide whether or not we should be snuffed out.
I'm sure you have quite the dossier on them, actually, or within their within their files.
You've got quite the dossier.
Oh, I bet.
Imran, if you're listening, yes, our dossier is just fattening by the day.
Now, here's another woman who cannot come to the United States, Claire Milford.
She's the CEO of the Global Disinformation Index, which evaluates online news sites to help advertisers avoid funding polarizing or disinformation-heavy content, merely polarizing.
You know, when they ever talk about polarizing, that means disagrees with them.
That's what they mean by polarizing.
I mean, you have disagreements.
They may be polarizing, but no disagreement is allowed if you disagree with some of their cherished, cherished, holy ideas.
And then there's a woman by the name of Anna Lena von Hodenberg.
Sounds like some high aristocrat.
She is the senior leader of HATEAID, which fights online hate speech.
And then there is another German lady who is a leader of HATE AID.
And apparently they were really, really strong in advancing this Digital Services Act, digital services, not really digital services.
It has to do with digitally strangling Free Speech Act is what it really boils down to.
But they can't come to the United States.
They can't get a visa.
Now, as our listeners know, for five years, I could not enter the 27-nation Schengen Group because I exercised free speech.
Now, I'm very glad that these people are being kept out because they are throttling free speech.
I'm still not allowed into Britain because the British are terrified of someone who tells them the sorts of things that they do not want to hear.
Now, what other good thing can you think of that the Trump administration has done?
Have we missed anything?
Any of the high points?
Yeah, I think we missed one of the biggest, and that is the end of disparate impact.
Oh, that's eliminating disparate impact liability from its Title VI regulations.
Yes.
That happened earlier this month.
Again, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 has all but been defamed in its ability to discriminate against white males and white females.
That happened with the SCODIS decision.
I forgot what decision that was, but that was early in 2025.
But earlier this month, we found out that for decades, the Justice Department has used disparate impact liability to undermine the constitutional principle that all Americans must be treated equally under law no longer.
The DOJ is eliminating its regulations that for far too long required recipients of federal funding to make decisions based on race.
That was Attorney General Pamela Bondi, who I would say has been one of the less bright spots of the administration.
Pamela Bondi, I remember, if she were an author.
That's right.
Yes.
That's right.
That's right.
But the Supreme Court decision goes back all the way to 1970, as I recall.
Astonishing.
That was Griggs versus Duke Power.
Yeah, that's right.
The idea that if you have a job requirement and it's not, and the court decides it's not absolutely super duper necessary to getting the job done, it could be desirable, but not absolutely super duper necessary.
And non-whites are more likely to meet that requirement, then that's racial discrimination.
So it is legal to say if you're a lifeguard, you have to be able to swim.
That is kind of unnecessary, even if there are fewer black people to swim than white people.
But if you're looking, and, you know, the classic one was a lot of police departments would not hire anybody who had a dishonorable discharge from the military.
And the Supreme Court decided that, no, nope, that's no good because black people are more likely to have dishonorable discharges.
And just because you got a dishonorable discharge does not mean you ain't going to make a cracker jack flat, cracker jack flat foot.
Yeah.
Even there were some criminal, there were criminal bars.
If you had been convicted of some kind of financial malfeasance, then you couldn't work for a bank, for example.
And there was a famous case in which they said, no, black people are more likely to have some kind of financial crime, and that's disparate impact.
It's not absolutely necessary to work for a bank and be honest with the money.
So, I mean, this has been something we've talked about so much.
Yes.
Disparate impact and what all that represents.
And you have to realize that getting rid of all that was a great first step.
Then on that same token after that Jacob Savage piece hit Compact and caused such a stir on X, which really is the driving force of this administration in a lot of ways.
We saw the EEOC chair Andrea Lucas, she posted a video, which was almost an infomercial, as I joked, where she asked, are you a white male who has experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex?
If yes, contact us now.
And I mean, it's again, this is the kind of thing that you would joke, gosh, I guess after we win, this is what we'll do in terms of reparations and, you know, recrimination for past injustices.
But here we are now at this late hour of 2025.
And you have to give major credit also, sir, to the fact that Elon Musk bought Twitter a few years ago.
Oh, yes.
Turned it into the greatest conversation starter, discourse, narrative-busting and investigative journalist journalism vector imaginable.
And all that was required for that was to let free speech roll.
Correct?
That's what I was brought back on.
Or you came back on.
I came back on and was not booted off.
That's right.
We are thankful for whatever favors come our way.
All of this, yes, in the first year, yes.
To imagine the U.S. government saying to white men, we have got your back.
If you have gotten this shaft, we want to hear about it.
Unthinkable.
Not just in the previous Democratic administration, but not in any Republican administration.
No.
This is without precedent.
This is extraordinary.
And again, I just don't understand all the naysayers, all the black pill swallowers who think, oh, it's all no good.
We wasted our boat.
No, you didn't waste your book.
Now, there are a couple of things that I wish Donald Trump had not done.
And I don't want to sound as though I am tearing the boy down because he has done wonderful, wonderful things.
And we can go over this with really no time at all.
But as far as tariffs are concerned, I tend to be a kind of a free trade sort of guy.
I know that's a dissident position to take in some of our circles, but the idea that he was going to slap tariffs on every single country, even once with which we had a trade, a positive trade balance, that was just cuckoo.
And Greenland, you know, he just appointed this guy who's going to go to Greenland and drum up support within Greenland for becoming independent of Denmark and becoming part of the United States.
I mean, gee, imagine how angry Donald Trump would be if the Mexicans appointed some sort of special envoy to California, to Arizona, and said, oh, look, you Arizonans, you Mexicans, you're already a majority here.
I think you need to get ready and hive off Arizona, detach from the United States and join Mexico.
What would we think about that?
We wouldn't like it one bit.
And then I must say, there is a kind of megalomania to our current president.
A lot of people don't seem to have tumbled to this, but he wants to celebrate 2026.
That is the 250th year of the Declaration of Independence with a special silver dollar, silver American dollar.
And it will have a picture of him on both sides of the coin.
Now, you don't ordinarily put living people on either side of the coin, but to have the same person on both sides, that is unprecedented.
But Donald J. Trump thinks that would be a great idea.
And then there was something called the U.S. Institute of Peace, but it's now the Donald J. Trump U.S. Institute of Peace officially emblazoned on the side of the building.
And you know why?
It's because he is the greatest deal maker in our nation's history.
You've seen that building before, haven't you?
It's right when you enter D.C. from Northern Virginia.
You cross that beautiful bridge, and it's right there on the left.
It's a pretty big glass monstrosity.
Yes, but it's got his name on it.
Well, kind of makes you laugh.
Well, you know, the greatest deal maker?
Well, you know, I think we have swung some pretty slick deals in our time.
Jefferson's Louisiana purchase, that worked out to three cents an acre.
I think that's one hell of a deal.
One hell of a deal.
And Alaska, Alaska cost even less, two cents an acre.
Seward's folly.
Well, it was not a folly.
That's what they thought at the time.
They called it that.
But Seward's ice box, yeah, I think it was not worth quite as much as Louisiana territory, all that ice and snow and polar bears and Eskimos.
But we paid two cents an acre for that.
I thought that was pretty good.
And of course, the Kennedy Center is no longer just the Kennedy Center.
It's now the Trump Kennedy Center.
And on Donald Trump's birthday, as a celebration of our great leader, the great hellism, Donald Trump, you can go to a national park for free, free admission on national parks for Donald Trump's birthday.
That's a nice birthday gift from the president.
I'll count it and I'll take the alternate position.
No, I'm joking.
It is, again, it is.
A little nugget.
Well, again, if you know anything about Trump back in the 80s, one of the taller structures built, I guess, after the World Trade Center's debut in the early 70s was Trump Tower in the 80s.
Yes, it was.
Spared no expense.
mar-a-lago spared no expense hey there's a there's a trump winery in uh in virginia that's okay that he He owns it.
He owns it.
But he doesn't own the Kennedy Center.
At least not yet.
Now, who's that first mayor, black mayor of Detroit?
Coleman Young.
Coleman Young.
He put his name on everything in sight.
Even the zoo became the Coleman J. Young or whatever it was, Coleman Young Zoo.
Everything was Coleman Young.
There's just a wee hint of that in what our present president is up to.
Are you playing despotic or third worldish?
No, no.
You put those words, not mine.
But yes, it just doesn't sit well with me.
I don't think Robert E. Lee or Thomas Jefferson or George Washington would have done things quite the same way.
But we're out of time.
We're out of time.
Just as the year is running out, our time is running out.
So, ladies and gentlemen, this has been a great year for us.
And I hope it's been a great year for you.
And I think we've gone over some of the real highlights.
This really has been the year of Donald J. Trump.
And I suspect the next three years will, too.
That guy's not going to slow down.
He is the, who's that bunny that keeps going?
The energizer bunny.
The energizer bunny.
Yes, he is the energizing buddy.
He never stops.
And I hope he will continue to do wonderful things.
And I hope we will continue to do wonderful things.
And I hope you in Amran Radio Land will continue to do wonderful things.
So thank you very, very much.
It's always a pleasure to spend this time with you.
And we look forward to doing it again all next year.