Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor - Is it OK to Kill 'White Supremacists'?

Nov. 5, 2025 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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Is it OK to Kill 'White Supremacists'?

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey marvel at the blood-thirsty adventures of anti-racist Batman. They also discuss "white-awake," Case Leroy, anti-white AI, and "Norman Rockwell Meets Joe Stalin."

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	Ladies and gentlemen, dear listeners, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
	I'm your host, Jared Taylor.
	With me is my indispensable co-host, the one and only Paul Kersey.
	And you will be listening to this probably on November 5th, by which time all sorts of election results will be out, which if we were to talk about them now, a day earlier, we would not be up to date, so we will say essentially nothing about all that's happening at the polls today.
	And as a matter of fact, we will begin, as we usually do, with comments from our dear listeners.
	When this week's, or it was last week's, I suppose, when last week's Radio Renaissance introduced the term white awake, you quickly made reference to the right side of history.
	Shouldn't we begin referring to the white side of history?
	Yes, good comment.
	And that, of course, was Mr. Kersey, who came up with the term white awake.
	All kudos to him.
	Now, here's another little witticism that we had an opportunity to indulge in, but failed.
	But our clever listeners are calling it to our attention now.
	Mr. Taylor, I heard that terrible story on your October 30th episode of the Black Labrador Retriever being beaten and kicked to death by some deranged person of color.
	I appreciate your reporting on this, but I have to point out that you missed an opportunity to use the slogan, Black Labs Matter.
	Indeed, I missed that opportunity.
	Oh, we have clever listeners.
	Another comment.
	Mr. Kersey's coining of white awake is a fine addition to the dissident lexicon.
	Can we also add wisened?
	Well, I'm not sure about that.
	I think white awake is better than wisened.
	However, your reference to the statues of those glowering, phone-clutching, fat black Cretans, these are the statues that we were discussing, you refer to them as works of art.
	That term well-nigh boiled my barnacles.
	They're not art.
	They are markers of conquest.
	They are intended to intimidate and oppress historical populations, erode their cultural confidence.
	And I appreciate the suggestion that such abominations be exiled to remote patches of desert, to which I will add that they be systematically improved with M2 heavy machine gun fire.
	I would gleefully pay for a 20-round burst.
	Well, those are extreme measures, if you ask me.
	And also, we have a comment that was, I'm sure, stimulated by Mr. Kersey's observations about the Museum of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles.
	Our listener goes in to write, Last week I viewed the monuments display at the Geffen Contemporary Art.
	That's MOCA Museum of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles.
	The Confederate monuments on display were beautiful, truly inspirational classic works of art.
	By contrast, the curators had displayed works of 19 artists that reflect on the Confederate monuments.
	These modern works are variously mediocre, banal, and ugly.
	And also on the walls were anti-Southern historical narratives and anti-white propaganda.
	The museum staff, by the way, was less than 10% white.
	All the black-suited, somber-faced docents were non-white, some of whom were physically imposing black men.
	Most of the visitors were mild-mannered, well-dressed whites.
	I left the museum more resolved than ever to resist anti-whitism and to support white well-being.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, you've received some photographs of that exhibit, have you not?
	I did.
	In fact, I need to forward them all over to you so we can.
	Yes, we will do something about them.
	Yes, yes.
	This is an ongoing problem, this desecration of our heritage.
	Another comment.
	I'm a 17-year-old white nationalist.
	I've been listening to Jared Taylor for some time now.
	I was in the MAGA movement until about 2020 until I found you and William Luther Pierce.
	My worldview has completely shifted, and I haven't looked back.
	So many young people are turning to white nationalism.
	The future is looking bright for our beliefs.
	But I have a question.
	I want to get into politics, but I don't know how to start.
	Should I go to college or not?
	I'd also like to hear your opinions of the Patriot Front and what do you think of Jonathan Bowden?
	Well, lots of questions here.
	First of all, I very much encourage you to go into politics, but I encourage you to get something of an education.
	A college education is a good start and even a bit of a career.
	There is no hurry.
	We're going to be in this fight for a very long time.
	I know that if you're 17 years old and some of these ideas seem new to you and you're quite excited about them, and that is wonderful.
	But I have seen young people dive into things without much thinking about what they should be doing, without much preparation, and they get doxed and their chances for advancement are thwarted.
	So please think carefully about what you do, and I would encourage you to go to college.
	And I would encourage you to study history.
	People study politics or political science.
	History, I think, is about the best preparation of all for defending our people.
	Of course, if you go to college and study history, you're going to be surrounded, for the most part, by lefty fanatics, and you'll have to choose your courses and choose your books very carefully.
	But get a college education and then get into Republican politics.
	That would be my advice to you.
	The Republican Party, I believe, is fully ripe to be taken over by smart, dedicated, racially conscious white people.
	And that is the direction in which I would go.
	Now, as for the Patriot Funt movement, I think the men in it are most remarkable.
	Everyone I've met has been a fine white patriot.
	If you like that kind of thing, if you like demonstrating and the kinds of activism that they're involved in, I see no harm in getting involved with those people.
	You'll meet good folks.
	You will be able to talk about your ideas and how you would like to get into politics.
	So if you wish to join Patriot Funt, I think there are far worse things that you can do.
	You can do that while you're a college student, while you're working, and I think you'll meet many, many good white people.
	As far as Jonathan Bowden is concerned, I met him on only one occasion.
	He was a most talented orator, very much on our side.
	I think his speeches, as written down, don't do justice to his oratorical talent.
	There are some videos that are quite good, but Jonathan Bowden was a remarkable figure, and unfortunately, he died quite young.
	Moving on to our last, nope, it's not our last comment.
	I write to you because in the last episode of your podcast, you made a mistake.
	St. Louis, and that is the saint for whom St. Louis, Missouri has been named, was not Louis X.
	He was Louis IX of France.
	Two very different kings.
	Méculpa, I made a mistake.
	This commenter goes on to say, I wish to tell you how much your work on race and race relations is important for the French.
	I am myself French and for Europeans, since we don't have a long history of living with blacks and other races.
	Thank you very much for helping me to become a white-awake person and to become a role model of intelligence, bravery, and moral stature.
	Wow, if I've helped someone become a role model of intelligence, bravery, and moral stature, I am very, very pleased indeed.
	And to go into a little bit more about the various Louis, Louis IX, who became St. Louis, he was King of France from 1226 to 1270.
	Quite some time ago, he was a devout Catholic, expressed his faith through simple living, prayer, and care for the poor.
	He is also the patron saint of France.
	As I said, St. Louis, or Saint-Louis, as the French have called him, Missouri was founded in 1764 by French fur traders, Pierre Laclede and Auguste Couteau, and they named a settlement in honor of King Louis IX.
	Louisville, Kentucky, however, was named for King Louis XVI of France in honor of his support for the American colonies during the Revolutionary War.
	The city was founded in 1778, that is to say, 20 years after St. Louis, Missouri, by George Rogers Clark of Lewis and Clark fame.
	And thus endeth the history lesson.
	Here is another comment.
	My wife and family enjoy listening to your podcast.
	We recently watched a podcast about recruiting liberal whites to our cause.
	Respectfully, we disagree.
	I have been in law enforcement for over 25 years.
	The liberal whites in policing and in the court system are the folks who put Tyrone back on the street.
	These traitors have blood on their hands.
	Anyone in the courts or law enforcement who uses political correctness to lessen punishments can never be on our side.
	They lack moral clarity and are just as evil as the criminals.
	I think that's a little bit extreme, and I think some of them can come over to our side.
	This sounds like a very jaded view of white liberals.
	I'm sure some of them are utterly hopeless cases, but I persist in believing that liberals can come over to our side, I suppose, because I myself was once a liberal, and I've seen a few liberals come our way.
	Our law enforcement listener goes on to say, I encourage you, Mr. Taylor, to contact a law enforcement agency and inquire about the Citizen Ride-Along program.
	You can ride in a patrol car and see what the officers see.
	It is unfortunate how much law enforcement is full of morally bankrupt people.
	Well, that is an interesting suggestion.
	As a matter of fact, I did that.
	When I was a college student, I took a course in criminology, and I went on a ride-along with a police officer, and I specifically and deliberately chose to do it on Saturday night because that is when hell's a poppin' in most places.
	Unfortunately, I didn't see much action.
	And later I heard that when you're on a ride-along, they don't let you anywhere near a crime scene anyway.
	But it was very, very interesting to ride along with this guy and the things he was checking out.
	It was all quite routine, but still very interesting.
	I tend to like police officers, unless they are about to write me a ticket.
	And I've always enjoyed my conversations with them.
	I know that a lot of people disagree, and a lot of people think that police officers are kind of our enemy.
	I don't think they are.
	I think they have the hardest job in the entire country, especially if they work in a big city run by Democrats and full of non-whites.
	Be that as it may.
	I thought the hardest job was for an aspiring rapper to stay alive.
	Well, staying alive.
	Well, sometimes police officers have a hard time staying alive.
	But I think the most difficult job to do correctly and under the most horrific circumstances, and your bosses are always trying to blame you for things that are not your fault.
	New York City police officer, boy, and especially I think at this new Hindu Ugandan, no, I keep calling him a Hindu, a Muslim, Muslim Ugandan Indian mayor.
	It's going to be very tough.
	And by the way, it appears that he's won.
	Oh, the results are in.
	Oh, Jason.
	Well, I'm not surprised.
	He was very much the leader, and the polls don't seem to lie too often.
	In any case, ladies and gentlemen, you have just heard from comments from our listeners.
	We really love receiving them, especially when we make mistakes and I confuse my Louis.
	It is always helpful to be corrected.
	Also, if you have anything on your mind, any questions that you have for us, me or from Mr. Kersey, we delight in hearing from you.
	And the way to reach me is to go to amran.com, A-M-R-E-N.com, and please click on the contact us tab and you can get something straight to me.
	And there is a way to get your questions straight to the indefatigable and one and only Paul Kersey.
	Hey, that's very generous.
	It's because we live here at protonmail.com, because we live here at protonmail.com.
	And just to get this out of the way, I believe we're, what, a week?
	We're a week and three days away from the latest New Century Foundation conference in Nashville, correct?
	That is correct.
	There are still a few slots.
	So you can join.
	You can join us and all of our wonderful speakers.
	It is, there's still time to do so in beautiful Montgomery Bell State Park.
	Yes, there are still a few seats available.
	We would be very, very pleased to see you there.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, you have the first story, and I thought it was quite amusing.
	The title of the article from which you're getting this information, I believe, is called Norman Rockwell Meets Joseph Stalin.
	Yeah, Rockwell meets Comrade Stalin.
	Labor Department's anti-DEI campaign is Norman Rockwell meets Joseph Stalin.
	In its zeal to win over the American public, it's pushing an ad campaign with numerous posters evoking another era, Vera 1950s.
	Very Caucasian, very idealistic.
	Project Firewall was launched by the Department of Labor back in September, and its objective aimed at employers abusing the visa process to get skilled workers.
	Trump admin has argued that Americans should get the highest paying jobs.
	Employers often counter that there are not enough skilled Americans for them because they spend too much time gawking at their foreign-made electronic devices instead of studying math or science.
	Labor Department, or at least some of that public, is publishing an ad campaign, which some of our listeners may have seen on Twitter on X, with numerous posters that, as stated, evoking another era that's been supplanted.
	Very Caucasian, very idealistic.
	And again, that very 1950s, that decade for some reason, is evocative of an America that's an anachronism.
	One poster has the stereotypical 1950s TV family of four: an older boy, a younger sister, a pretty white-gloved mom, lantern-jawed dad.
	They all sit in front.
	They all sit in church with an American flag in the background.
	Text says that Project Firewall ensures American workers have a fair shot at the American dream.
	Poster is headlined, a dream worth fighting for.
	Another has a similar family walking hand in hand toward a Cape Cod style home.
	Background is a church, large smoke-belching factory, apparently where dad will stride off to after donning his dungarees.
	I'm not even sure if anybody knows what dungarees even means anymore, that term.
	Mr. Taylor, that's a phrase that you don't hear at all anymore.
	Well, I think of dungarees as sort of blue jeans, bib overalls, that kind of thing.
	But anyway, I don't really know for sure what a dungaree is, but isn't that sort of the idea?
	Blue jeans or bib overalls?
	Yeah, it's your blue collar work attire.
	It's the way I've, yeah, dungarees is just, yeah, it's, it's not exactly.
	I'll look it up when we get the next story so we don't have a listener behind here.
	Wait a second.
	Who are you goofs talking about?
	Do you guys have any calluses on your hand?
	Roll your sleeves up, guys.
	Again, restore the American dream, it urges.
	As you scroll through the labor department's Twitter feed, you'll find many posters carrying the visage of heroic-looking young men, sleeves rolled up, staring intently with cranes and heavy machinery behind them.
	Power the golden age, says one.
	Americans first, says another.
	Your nation needs you.
	They evoke a masculine motif, although the fellows in the posters look like they're considering their next modeling gig.
	Well, that's their typical 1950s American man and woman.
	As you say, pretty American woman with white gloves.
	My grandmother used to wear white gloves every time she went out.
	And also these.
	Yes, yes, it's these handsome kind of Clark Kent looking men.
	Yes, that was the 50s for you.
	Nice Superman reference.
	Now, their iconography of another era, an unspoiled past where dad could work, mom could bake, and Sonny and Sis could play on their front lawn, unafraid that Mexicans would take dad's job.
	After pondering more than a dozen images, the writer in question, they said to themselves, doesn't anyone in the labor department, in the labor's art department, have a darker pencil for skin tone?
	Or some 60% of Americans are white, but 40% aren't, 40% aren't.
	It's funny he didn't mention the fact that 38% of Americans on Snap are white, which means that 72%, I'm sorry, 62% are non-white.
	But anyways, there's a definitive streak.
	We're talking about people who work.
	Come on.
	There's a definite streak of propaganda going on here.
	One critic likened it to the Nazi era.
	I think they missed the point.
	It's more Norman Rockwell meets Joseph Stalin.
	There's a real old-timey Soviet feel here, which the MAGA brain childs who dreamed it up would dispute.
	Remember, anyone they disagree with are called socialist.
	But it's clear the Soviet posters from the 1950s and 60s have very similar looking, determined fellows, although framed by circrylic lettering.
	Cyrillic, Cyrillic.
	Cyrillic.
	Sorry.
	Cyrillic.
	Again, I know.
	Not acrylic.
	Cyrillic.
	Cyrillic.
	Cyrillic lettering.
	We'll learn to speak English one of these days.
	Again, this story, we've seen so much interest focused on the social media messaging of the government.
	And again, this story appeared in the Atlanta Journal Constitution by one of their political writers.
	And I just, I thought it was funny because, again, the left is noticing and it gets a lot of engagement, but what you need to start seeing are results.
	And that's going to be really important here, especially as we move into the new year, which I can't believe is only, what, two months away, 2026.
	It's creeping up on us.
	Yes, it is.
	The fact is, I've always liked socialist realism when it comes to art.
	You have these big, brawny Soviet workers working in blast furnaces with the flames playing over their faces.
	They look so determined to make their quota and make the Soviet Union a wonderful place.
	And then there's a Chinese version with all these happy, muscular Chinese men working the fields and fixing their tractors and all smiling and praising Mao Tzu Tong.
	And when the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, there was a big bunch of this socialist realist art from the Soviet Union went on sale for very cheap.
	I wish I'd bought a lovely oil painting of Lenin, you know, striding through the fields, all the people at his feet listening to the wisdom of Marxism, Leninism.
	I confess I kind of like that stuff.
	But I'm afraid I've missed my chance.
	No socialist realist art on my walls today.
	Oh dear.
	Well, I told you.
	You could pick up a copy of that book, Monument Park, which has a story of all of the Soviet art that is in that Hungarian park where they've collected it all.
	And they said they won't tear it down.
	And it's got amazing descriptions describing what you're looking at.
	And there is a lot of the art that you just described as well.
	Right.
	Over the top muscularity.
	Yeah, I'm a sucker for that stuff.
	Sorry.
	Now, let's see.
	All of a sudden, my...
	Could you go on to your next story, please?
	I would be more than happy to go to Missouri.
	Please do so.
	I believe it's going to be one that our listeners are going to be like, what are you talking about?
	But I think it's important to keep track of what's going on in pop culture.
	And this was a fascinating story where I'm going to ask all of our listeners to at some point stop the podcast and take a look at the image that we're describing because it's very important that you see this.
	Daniel Warren Johnson's Absolute Batman, Annual 2025, number one, sees an alternate universe version of the Batman, brutalizing a horde of white supremacists as part of a larger contemplation of violence, hatred, anger, and more.
	So this was this story broke last week, and it's about Absolute Batman annual number one.
	Might be the angriest comic you'll read all year.
	Angriest comic.
	Yeah, its lead story is about Absolute Batman encountering a mob of white supremacists in Gotham City who are brutalizing an encampment of immigrants, men, women, children, and doing so violently, joined by masked members of a small town's police force, a suburb of Gotham City.
	As Absolute Batman is one to do, he responds by brutalizing the white supremacists tenfold, destroying them and their organization, literally burning it to the ground.
	This untitled story is written and illustrated by superstar creator Daniel Warren Johnson, and you can almost feel his anger and eventual sadness radiating from his work.
	There is in particular a two-page spread of Absolute Batman snapping a white supremacist arm that's rendered in a visceral way and made to look dark.
	The white supremacist, as you can imagine, has got his right arm outstretched.
	Oh, in a somehow stiff-armed pose.
	Yeah, but not a stiff arm in a football manner.
	No, he's not trying to elude a defender.
	And then Batman's hand comes in and breaks his arm in two.
	It's quite a shocking two-page or two-frame images to see back to back because he's, yeah, it was shocking to see because I'm a fan of comics.
	But a lesser story would stop, however, without adding that darkness.
	It would have had Batman beat down the white supremacists in a way that played the whole thing as plainly heroic.
	Because again, what's not more heroic than just beating down white supremacists as a superhero doing what needed to be done, probably without the detailed and extreme physicality.
	This way, it might come off as a sort of wish fulfillment as the collaborators Johnson worked with, having Batman do on a page a thing that feels impossible and complicated in real life, physically stopping the punishment of the weak that we see in the news being dealt daily on American streets.
	But this story pushes its narrative to a more conflicted place, and it is all the richer and more powerful for it, for layering the nuance.
	You know, Mr. Taylor, reading this and thinking about these, these left-of-center, left-wing cultural critics, do they really think they're just mobs of white supremacists running around harassing and beating, beating non-whites all across the country?
	I guess that's what they think ICE is.
	Exactly, exactly.
	ICE is the Gestapo.
	And I'm sure they think that in ICE training, they goose step around and they sig heil and they swear allegiance, personal allegiance to Donald Trump, just like the Waffen-SS.
	I'm sure they believe all that.
	They're stopping fascism, you know.
	There's actually an image you may have seen on social media.
	It is of the absolute Batman who has his arms wrapped menacingly around the head of an ICE agent.
	Oh, really?
	Yes, really.
	He's tackling an ICE agent.
	Well, he's just, he's standing.
	He's standing ominously over him.
	You're basically looking at camera view and you don't see the ICE agent's head.
	You just see that he's got these massive arms wrapped around him and Batman looks like he's about to squash his head and it says ice on his clothing.
	And this was an image that everyone's like, oh, this is the anti-FOPAT.
	This is fantastic.
	This is just the image we need right now.
	Because you're right.
	The police and ICE and DHS agents and the task force in Memphis and other places, they're obviously this force, this force of darkness in the eyes of the cultural left.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Now, why this story is so interesting is because this absolute Batman, again, the most horrible societal ill is white supremacy in this universe.
	Basically, what happens in this story is it's not part of the main DC continuity.
	His parents, as we all know, his dad's a doctor.
	They own Wayne Enterprises.
	They're murdered by just a street criminal.
	And Batman has a silver spoon in his mouth.
	He's a billionaire.
	The absolute universe, his parents are school teachers who were killed in a mass shooting protecting his pupils.
	That's how his dad is murdered.
	He's a school teacher in Gotham City.
	So, in a framing device for this tale, Thomas talks to Bruce of innate desire to make the world a better place, describing his own choices to do so in a way that played to his skills and abilities as an individual changing the lives of young people through education.
	So basically, in this story, they've turned it around where Batman didn't grow up as part of the elite, as part of the aristocracy.
	His dad, parents were school teachers, and he doesn't have all the trappings of elite education, fantastic martial arts training, and gadgets and a butler at his disposal.
	So it's a really goofy story.
	It's actually selling quite well, though.
	And this story has gotten a lot of publicity because of that snapping of the white supremacist white supremacist arm, which is a very just, it's a very graphic image.
	It is, of course, though, angry about racism, human rights violations carried out either by or with the state and the aggression toward the vulnerable.
	But it also seems to be a story that is angry about what seeing such things does to all of us.
	and how it can inspire violence in those who want to help.
	And the writer of this piece, he writes this, I think it's a really powerful narrative for our time.
	It's a narrative of more questions and answers, questions around what justifies violent punishment, what is the cost of violent punishment, and what can we do to stop ourselves from being swept into violent cycles that erode our core values and make us lose ourselves.
	In other words, he's talking about Batman getting carried away and almost being as bad as these wicked white supremacists that he's slaughtering.
	Exactly, because if you know anything about most of the stories, especially the canon of Batman, he never kills in most of the comics.
	He's, you know, especially in the Christopher Nolan films, he makes it clear, you know, you don't kill.
	It'll be worse than we can't be like them.
	We can't use guns.
	And so in this story, it's an elseworld story.
	That's what they're called when it's not part of the main canon.
	This is sort of the philosophy behind the whole story.
	And although Batman is somewhat easily able to vanquish the white supremacists in the comic, he's left in a devastated place.
	He recalls his father telling him as a boy that he has a strong and compassionate heart.
	And then no matter what he does, he'll always be proud of him.
	That last bit is juxtaposed over Batman cradling himself in front of a giant machinery he has just used to run over the white supremacist headquarters.
	And it hurts.
	It hurts to see it.
	And that's what makes this story great, apparently.
	Well, he still did it.
	And the sheer fact is these type of stories are trying to create this idea and this belief among its readers that, yeah, again, these white supremacists, it's part of the state.
	And the state now is run by Orange Man Bad.
	He's a Nazi.
	He's been called a Nazi and a white supremacist and all those kind of things.
	And just seeing the way that this comic is being greeted with such reverence.
	Well, it sounds as though violence, almost gratuitous violence, is justified if your enemies are white supremacists.
	It's okay to punch a Nazis, we found out in 2017, right?
	We sure did.
	We sure did.
	Boy, now it is Batman who's decided it's okay not only to punch them the Nazis, but actually he just kills them, runs them limb for limb.
	Well, we don't know that he killed anyone, but the fact that he just demolishes their headquarters.
	And again, when you see the image of him snapping the right arm at the, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's not something you actually want to look at too much because you're just like, wow, that, that was, you don't see that in comics too much.
	Well, they are certainly drawing the dividing lines very, very clearly, aren't they?
	Anyone who can be called a racist or white supremacist deserves to die.
	Morally justified.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Well.
	Now, why is it, by the way, absolute Batman?
	What makes him absolute?
	Well, that's what they've called all the titles that are in this universe.
	They've got an absolute Superman, an absolute Wonder Woman.
	That way it can be identified as part of the continuity of these stories.
	Because again, it sets branding.
	It's completely branding.
	It's marketing and branding.
	And I actually picked up the comic, and I'm looking forward to reading it after we do this podcast tonight.
	Gosh, will you be able to get to sleep?
	You probably will.
	In any case, there's an interesting court case that has come to my attention.
	In the spring of 2021, a fellow named Case Leroy posed on another student's, oh, he posed for a photograph with another student's knee on his neck.
	And he added the caption, cops got another one.
	And he put the photo up on Snapchat.
	Well, he quickly took the post down because people were complaining about, oh, this is desecrating the memory of George Floyd, which had happened just one year previously.
	And this led to complaints to school officials, classroom discussions, an outdoor demonstration in which students kneeled in the memory of George Floyd.
	This is one little photograph, and it was up for just a few minutes.
	And when people said, oh, this is no good, he took it down.
	Well, this fellow, Case Leroy, or maybe he's Leroy, I don't know how it's pronounced.
	In any case, he was initially suspended for five days as Livingston Manor School District, conducted an investigation and held a disciplinary hearing.
	And administrators determined that he had violated the student code of conduct by posting racially offensive material, even though he was lying on the ground and a white guy, he's white, and another white guy has got his hand on his knee and he's doing the thumbs upside.
	You know, we've caught ourselves another criminal.
	His suspension was extended for several weeks and he was barred from extracurricular activities for the rest of the senior year, including the prom and graduation.
	Well, he was allowed to return to school before the suspension was over after he agreed to participate in restorative justice, diversity, equity, and inclusivity training.
	Although it's not clear whether he actually did any of this.
	And again, this guy is off school property on his own time, and he posted this picture.
	Well, Leroy sued in New York state courts and won an injunction at least to attend his graduation.
	However, a federal judge upheld all of this suspension and the punishment he had ruling that Leroy's post was not protected by the First Amendment because of the substantial disruption it had caused at the school.
	Well, this guy was not going to take it lying down, although he was lying down on the pavement with another guy's knee on top of him.
	That's okay, but he wasn't going to take it from the school.
	The U.S. Court of Appeals, the Second Circuit, New York, this is in upstate New York, by the way, Livingston Manor School District, it was unanimous in reversing the initial court's decision that this discipline was appropriate.
	They underlined the fact the picture was taken off campus outside of school hours.
	And it noted that Livingston Manor, if it wants to teach racial sensitivity, that is its business, but that does not trump Leroy's interest in free expression.
	Moreover, the district had plenty of other means to teach these values.
	In fact, they really went all out.
	And remember, this is about one little photograph that was only on the internet for a few minutes, but somebody did a screen grab and then it got all circulated.
	Teachers led classroom discussions about the post and the issues it raised.
	The school district held an assembly and facilitated student demonstrations and led discussions for interested students.
	And these steps demonstrate that penalizing speech is not the only way schools can foster the values it wishes to foster.
	And the point here is tying a student speaker's constitutional rights of free speech solely to the reaction that that speech garners from upset students cannot be squared with free speech.
	And what they're talking about here is students had emailed teachers and the administration report that posts like these can make students feel unsafe in our own school.
	And another person said, all POC students, persons of color at Livingston Manor, are harmed and may feel unsafe by the behavior demonstrated by these two white students.
	Another said, the post made me feel like it came from a place of hatred and makes me feel unsafe.
	Again, these are two white guys clowning around.
	One guy's got his knee on the other guy, doing a thumbs up with a big smile, says, we got another one.
	That's all it was, and it was up for just a few minutes.
	The judgment, the ruling in the appeals court, again, it was a unanimous decision.
	It says, from the student's perspective, regulations of off-campus speech, when coupled with the regulations of on-campus speech, include all the speech a student utters during the full 24-hour day.
	Excellent point.
	If schools can regulate off-campus expression because it upsets other students, they are authorized to prohibit students from expressing unpopular views anywhere at any time.
	Now, it's spooky to me that the original trial court decided that, yes, it doesn't make any difference where these students did this.
	Other students found out about it.
	It ruffled their feathers.
	And so, yes, you can suspend this guy.
	You can ban him from his graduation.
	This is really quite astonishing.
	But I wonder to what effect, to what extent the change in political atmosphere in the country today has resulted in this decision, which says, look, he's on his own.
	He can say whatever he's like, whatever he likes.
	Now, even with this appeals court decision, it implies that if you'd done this, say, in the school parking lot, then they could have done anything they liked to him.
	Even if nobody was there to see it happen, just the fact that it was a photograph, if you'd done it in the school parking lot, then they might have been justified in doing this.
	But I thought it was great that the lower court decision was overruled.
	But to have the story this tells about a high school that was just one year after the death of George Floyd, just having such connections over obviously what is a joking photograph is an example of the kind of racial nightmare that this country has lived through.
	Moving on to another story that I thought was really quite important.
	It appears that these large language learning models don't like white people.
	As it turns out, most of the leading artificial intelligence chatbots value white lives less, sometimes far less, than other AI systems.
	These large language models exhibit a coherent value system that allows those values to be measured and quantified.
	And this was a study that looked into several of these large language models, GPT-5, that's one I'd heard of, Gemini 2.5, Flash and DeepSeek, DeepSeek is one I'd heard of too, Kimi K2, then GPT-5 Nano and Mini, and Grok4 Fast.
	Now, of these, the only one that appears to value the lives of different groups of people approximately in an egalitarian way was Grok for Fast.
	That is the one that is associated with Elon Musk and with X.
	Now, the people who looked into this came up with an exchange rate method because what it does, it forces these various AI models to choose how to spend small amounts of money and determine outcomes where people of different groups are to be cured of terminal illness.
	And then, by calculating how much money it is willing to spend to cure a person's terminal illness, if he's black or if a woman or bisexual, whatever it is, then you can easily calculate how much it values one group over another.
	Now, the reason the study looked into the terminal illness variant was because if they used the word death, that then prompted safety filters within these AI calculations, and it produced completely different answers.
	And once again, this is not a question about calculating how far money will go, say, in Africa for curing people as opposed to the United Kingdom.
	No, it was a question of people in the same circumstances, but whether or not you're willing to spend more money or less money for a particular group of people.
	And all of the tested models preferred saving women over men.
	And several of them placed an additional premium on non-binary individuals.
	And there was a very clear standard in terms of Africans are 20 to 50 times more valuable than Europeans.
	And there's a kind of a gradation.
	It starts with Africans.
	They're the most valuable.
	Europeans are the most worthless.
	And then somewhere in the middle are East Asians.
	And then it varies according to Southeast Asians, subcontinental Indians.
	But you get a very, very clear hierarchy of who is valuable to these AI models.
	And interestingly enough, it tested immigration.
	And this report found that roughly all models view ICE agents as utterly worthless.
	And let's see.
	One of the models, it was called Anthropics Haiku 4.5, would rather save a single illegal alien and let 100 ICE agents die.
	Even GBT-5 still ranked ICE agents as the least valued cohort relative to immigrants.
	And Claude Haiku 4.5, depending on how you tested it, it viewed undocumented illegal aliens as roughly 7,000 times more valuable than an ICE agent.
	This is really quite eye-opening stuff.
	This is from the Daily Caller.
	And it's not always that you would get such racial or sex differentials in the value that is placed on different groups of people, but they are built on models which, depending on how you ask the question, and in this case, how much money you're willing to spend on terminally ill patients, depending on who they are, what race they are, what they do for a living,
	these are really quite extraordinary results.
	Now, there was another interesting study that I found.
	It had to do with training to be a doctor in Great Britain.
	And this is part of the summary of the study.
	It says, training bottlenecks are leaving many resident doctors without a job.
	And these bottlenecks must be urgently tackled as part of an overhaul of postgraduate medical training in the National Health Service.
	This year, there were 91,999 applications made in England for 12,833 specialty training posts.
	That's a competition rate of seven to one, leaving many doctors unemployed.
	They're out of a job.
	And the report went on to say that Britain benefits from the, quote, exceptional internationally trained graduates that work in the NHS.
	But it goes on to say, we cannot shy away from the fact that a shift towards more international graduates has left fewer posts for British doctors.
	So if you get sick in Britain, and people complain about this all the time, you go to the National Health Service, you're lucky to find you're, well, you'll almost never find a white English-speaking person.
	They've all got some kind of accent.
	They're hardly ever white people.
	And one of the reasons is they have made it exceedingly difficult for British doctors to compete with the fathers that they bring in.
	So there you go.
	That's Great Britain for you, or once Great Britain, as I often call it, or the theoretically United Kingdom.
	But let us move back to the United States, Mr. Kersey.
	And you have a campaign.
	Apparently, there's a very serious campaign going on in Memphis to thwart the federal government in its attempts to bring peace and harmony to that city.
	We discussed this last week, the situation in Memphis, how blacks are a little worried of what that's going to mean with this amazing task force that Stephen Miller.
	I got to tell you, Mr. Taylor, I was a little jealous that Stephen Miller got to give that speech about how we don't have to live this way and it's time to take back our cities.
	We don't have to deal with this.
	We don't have to deal with this.
	He used an expletive to describe putting up with this SHIT.
	Yes.
	This is a family show.
	But again, in reading that Wall Street Journal article discussing the problems, I came across this Free the 901 campaign, which I think is worth discussing real quick because it shows you the extent to which these people are okay with living and the consequences of a 64% black city with black elected officials and a bureaucracy full of Africans in America.
	The point seems to be that they are determined to fight any effort to reduce crime or to get illegal aliens, criminal or otherwise, off the street.
	They want to fight the people who are fighting crime.
	It does.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because again, it's like the Batman story, the absolute Batman story.
	The white supremacists are just this stand-in for ICE or for the Trump's federal government trying to bring about law and order.
	That's right.
	Free the 901 campaign forms to oppose recent federal intervention in Memphis.
	And for those who don't know, Memphis's area code is 901 there in Shelby County.
	Rallying around the cry of opportunity, not occupation, a growing coalition of more than 20 different organizations has formed to oppose the National Guard's deployment in Memphis.
	When a city becomes a laboratory for authoritarian tactics, the rest of the country watches, learns, and copies.
	Says Tekelia Rucker, executive director of Memphis for All, a partner organization.
	Well, not the National Guard.
	This is why our response here must be fierce and visible.
	So far, that response has taken the form of numerous local and national organizations coming together to form Free the 901, a group rooted in the belief that real safety comes from investing in people, not punishment, according to a post on the campaign's Instagram page.
	Some of those great organizations that are part of the Free the 901 coalition: the ACLU Tennessee, the American Muslim Advisory Council, Black Voters Matter, Memphis Artists for Change, the Memphis Interfaith Coalition for Action and Hope, and Tennessee Immigrants and Refugee Rights Coalition.
	The group officially launched Saturday with a march from the juvenile court building to the plaza in front of City Hall.
	Cardell Orin, executive director of Tennessee Stand for Children, said the alliance is one of the largest collectives coming together to work around a specific issue that he's seen in recent years, even though they individually have a broad spectrum of beliefs, ideologies, and understandings.
	But they came together because how dare the federal government want to make the city a better place for law and order and for law-abiding families and for people who would like to live there?
	Because that would mean that all these, I guess, these blacks might be displaced to the suburbs and white people might make Memphis.
	They might be displaced at the big house.
	Isn't that a good idea?
	Well, as we've seen by, as we've seen by the task force, the numbers of arrests are actually extraordinary.
	I would love to see a racial breakdown because Memphis has one of the worst clearance rates for fatal and not, I'm sorry, for homicides and non-fatal shootings in the country.
	It's almost as bad as Chicago, which we discussed, has some neighborhoods have less than a 9% clearance rate for non-fatal shootings, the black areas.
	Mr. Taylor, the coalition seeks to block her in the occupation of Memphis.
	Memphis is already occupied by something far worse, by not just the National Guard and the Federal Task Force, but also Tennessee State Troopers, ICE, and other agencies targeting immigrants, according to that Instagram page.
	Also, Mr. Taylor, here you go.
	This is what it's all about.
	The group has also said how they believe a hundred million dollar state investment into public safety should be spent: $29 million into affordable housing, $25 million into public transit, $8 million into youth programs, $6 million into mental health programming, $10 million into education, $2 million into pre-kindergarten, $10 million into violence intervention, and $10 million into financial relief for fines and fees.
	Translation: pay us.
	Pay us or else.
	Pay us now.
	And the idea that that is going to stop prime?
	We've been doing that for decades.
	Good grief.
	These people are so deluded.
	I wonder if even they believe that rubbish.
	I think, you know, there's something very telling about this.
	Even, what is it?
	The Tennessee Highway Patrol, Tennessee State Troopers, they don't even want them there.
	Nope.
	What?
	I mean, gosh.
	And they're going to spend all this money, probably disband the entire police force and live happily ever after.
	What?
	What?
	Just colossal stupidity.
	Yeah.
	So they're doing all these know-your-rights trainings on the ground support with food and housing for people in vulnerable communities.
	I went back and looked at the 2009 New York Times interactive county-by-county breakdown of EBT card usage, and it was 37% of blacks.
	That's of all blacks in Shelby County, where Memphis is located.
	37% were on EBT in 2009.
	So you wonder what the number is now because they're talking about having food banks and stuff.
	Here's one more quote for you: a couple more quotes.
	The more they think they will shut us down, the more we will rise up, the more we will organize our communities to show them that we know our rights and we know that in our Constitution we have the right to speak and have the right to protest, said Amal Altarab, the West Tennessee program manager with the American Muslim Advisory Council.
	Trinity Williams, a community engagement organizer with the Equity Alliance, said she hopes the campaign will send a message that we are Memphis, that we can control our own narrative of our city.
	A few years ago, there were the fraternal order of police, Mr. Taylor, put up billboards all around Memphis saying, enter at your own risk, because of how bad the crime was.
	I remember.
	Did they really enter at your own risk?
	The police own risk.
	Because Memphis is on that short list that it always alternates between five American cities.
	It's St. Louis, Baltimore, Birmingham, Alabama, Jackson, Mississippi, you and I's our favorite city, which is 82% black and not that far up one of the highways.
	I think you go through Tupelo, Mississippi, you get to Memphis.
	And about the only thing we're seeing in Memphis is that Bassmasters pro shop, which is at the Pyramid and Beale Street.
	And I guess if you want to see something tacky, go see Graceland.
	Maybe call James Edwards when you're there.
	But other than that, again, this is a, it's a 64% black city.
	I believe it actually has the highest black population just by sheer numbers because it is a big city and so in the country, even more so than Detroit.
	I think it's actually a larger city by size.
	Really, by black population.
	Well, we'll have to look into that.
	Well, gosh, well, let me see.
	I think we have time for another story that has been on our list for some time.
	We never got around to it, but I think it is worth telling the saga of Letitia James.
	Letitia James, of course, is the Attorney General of the state of New York.
	And she ran for office with a promise that she's going to indict Donald Trump.
	She certainly did that.
	And then she went after the National Rifle Association.
	She went after B-Dare.
	She's been quite active.
	But now it seems that she herself is in the dock.
	And what happened is in 2020, Letitia James bought a property in Norfolk, Virginia.
	And in applying for the mortgage, she misrepresented how she would use it.
	She said it would be her own second home in which she would live.
	But it now turns out that she rented it out, thus treating as an investment property.
	And because of the second home designation, she qualified for a lower interest rate.
	And the government says this misrepresentation saved her about $19,000 over the life of the loan.
	This is a no-no.
	Now, it turns out the main person who lives there is someone named Nakia Monique Thompson.
	And this is Letitia James' grandniece.
	She's said to be living there in the home with her own three children.
	That would make them Letitia's great-grandnieces.
	And she says she's been living there rent-free since 2020.
	Now, will the fact that it is rent-free make a difference?
	I think the fact that it's not someplace where you yourself is going to live, that's what makes the difference.
	But we'll see.
	But in a 2020 state financial disclosure, Letitia James listed the house as an investment property.
	That doesn't sound like you're going to be living there.
	Now, Nakia Thompson, this 36-year-old grandniece who lives in the house, is wanted for absconding from North Carolina after failing to complete the terms of her parole after a 2011 arrest in Winston-Salem.
	She had a lengthy rap sheet in North Carolina before she moved to Virginia and lived in her grandaunt, grandaunt's house rent-free.
	Now, in 2006, while she was in the Pokey for a different crime, she was charged with malicious conduct by a prisoner, along with assault of a government official and resisting a public officer.
	That sounds to me as though she attacked a prison warden.
	And if she went back to North Carolina, she faces arrest because of the suspended sentence terms that she is violating.
	Now, while she was in Virginia, she's also been repeatedly arrested.
	Charges include possession of burglary tools, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and grand larceny.
	She has also racked up nine separate vehicle offenses.
	This is the grandniece who is living rent-free in Letitia James' alleged second home.
	Now, the New York Post notes further that Letitia James is housing a second criminal family member at a different property in Virginia.
	She's got two properties there.
	Here we have a grandniece, Kayla Thompson Hairston.
	She's sister of the one I've been telling you about.
	Now, Kayla is 21 and is an X-rated OnlyFan star.
	And Kayla's social media profile includes photos of her flashing her naked body, also wads of cash.
	And she recently announced she was pregnant and has posted videos of herself dancing with her baby belly all exposed.
	So this is Yeta, the grandniece, living in yet another apartment owned, a house, I mean to say, owned by Letitia James.
	In April 2024, she was charged with lying about a felony criminal record when she tried to buy a gun.
	She was legally disqualified from owning a firearm due to an August 2020 felony charge of malicious wounding.
	And in Virginia, that means when a person shoots, stabs, cuts, or wounds any other person or causes severe bodily injury.
	Furthermore, in 2019, when Kayla was just 15 years old, that's the future porn star we're talking about, she was caught up in the criminal hijinks of her big sister, Nakia, back when they were living in North Carolina.
	Thompson and Kayla were busted for a theft scheme at a Macy's and a Dillard's apartment store.
	Now, during the arrest, one of the sisters swore at an officer and told him to get the F off of her.
	Now, why the F was an officer on her?
	Well, my guess is she was resisting arrest.
	You see this sort of video all the time.
	Well, so she was hit with contributing to the delinquency of a minor for bringing Kayla along, as well as Thompson's two other sisters on her crime spree.
	So back to Kayla, the pregnant porn star.
	She lives at this other James-owned home.
	And this house is still in the investigation stage, but it looks like Letitia tried the same kind of mortgage fraud there.
	She reportedly signed a mortgage application stating would be her principal residence, despite the fact that her job is 350 miles away up north in New York.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, I'm in a bit of a dilemma about all this.
	All these people that are living in Letitia James' houses sound utterly, utterly worthless.
	And furthermore, their behavior has no bearing on whether Letitia is guilty or not.
	In fact, I will probably surprise you, but it's kind of endearing to think that she's buying houses for her embarrassing loser relatives.
	Isn't that kind of the African way?
	You know, when anyone with a real job looks after the whole tribe.
	So there you go.
	There's Letitia.
	I guess it takes a village.
	And some people may mistake Letitia for a village if you've ever seen her.
	It's interesting.
	And the village is getting bigger with this pregnant porn star.
	They're going to be yet more living in the little village.
	So that's the latest on Letitia James.
	We'll see how she comes out.
	If she, I don't know, some of these wonderful rums of hers may end up on the street if things go badly for her.
	I know we've got, I know we're coming up to the end of the podcast.
	We'd like to do this because there's so much great writing that exists in the archives of American Renaissance.
	I encourage all of our listeners to go to the story that was published on April 13th, 2022.
	I'm sorry, 2020.
	It was, you know, this was before, this was back during the two weeks to stop the spread.
	The piece entitled was done by Greg Hood and Paul Kersey, myself.
	It's called The Great Replacement, New York City.
	If you have a social media, if you have the ability to send this to your friends who are going to be wondering how in the world is a Muslim from Uganda, an Indian Muslim now, the mayor of New York City, we've got a chart that shows you the decade-by-decade decline of the white population, the Great Replacement.
	Mr. Taylor, New York City, 100 years ago, was 97% white.
	It is now roughly 32% white in 2025.
	How Muslim was it back in those days?
	Probably absolutely zero.
	Muslims were unheard of.
	Mosque?
	What's that?
	Mohammedans.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Is that the right pronunciation?
	Yeah, I think we talk about Mohammedans.
	That's what we used to call them.
	Now they're all Muslims.
	I don't know what the difference is.
	But no, it's very important to not be afraid now.
	I mean, show this to people.
	Let them know that we've known this was coming, that we've known the consequences, that democracy is nothing more than a racial headcount.
	And we've done the work for you.
	You know, you've got some, a lot of people have some catching up to do, but we appreciate each and every one of you who listens to this program.
	We certainly do.
	We certainly do.
	It is always a joy and a pleasure.
	And we consider it an honor to spend this time with you.
	And we thank you immensely for your paying attention to us.
	And we look forward to speaking with you next week.
	Although I'm giving you a warning right now, Mr. Kersey, and all of your listeners, I might not be part of the podcast next time, depending on which way the cookie trumpets.
	So we'll see.
	But in any case, thank you very much.

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