Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor - What’s a ‘Heritage American’?

Aug. 1, 2025 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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What’s a ‘Heritage American’?

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey agree that they are both Heritage Americans. They also discuss Johnny Somali, DHS goes native, and “new pope, same rubbish.”

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	Ladies and gentlemen, dear listeners, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
	I'm your host, Jared Taylor.
	Today is July 31st, last day of July.
	August is just around the corner.
	And with me is my indispensable incandescent co-host, none other than Paul Kersey.
	And as usual, we begin with comments from our loyal listeners.
	Someone writes in to say, listening to your latest podcast, you talked about foreigners behaving badly in Japan.
	I've been following the trouble that the American black, Ramsey Khalid Ismail, aka Johnny Somali, has been getting into.
	He does outrageous things.
	And if anyone objects, he yells racist.
	His behavior in Japan for his live streams was so egregious that if I had been there, I would have given him a severe beatdown.
	And I am a peace-loving old man.
	You know, I often feel that way when I see these videos of people misbehaving.
	It makes me furious.
	Listener goes on.
	Instead, the Japanese government showed excessive mercy by deporting him and giving him a five-year ban from Japan.
	Well, now he's in Korea, where he is trying similar things and is in jail awaiting trial and sentencing on eight charges.
	From what I understand from a lawyer, I know he's facing years in prison.
	The most serious charge appears to be child sexual assault.
	Now, I looked him up.
	I'd never heard of Johnny Somali before.
	And yes, he's got these videos.
	He prances around with his shirt off, and he goes up and he bothers Asian girls and he trespasses in places and he climbs up onto monuments.
	He makes just an utter and total fool of himself.
	But I think it's good for Asians to see blacks as they so often are, and not as the way they're depicted in all the American movies they see.
	But our listener goes on to say, I wish we could ban him from the United States, but he was born here.
	Well, I don't know.
	Maybe the Koreans will keep him for a good while.
	Maybe he'll learn a little Korean.
	Maybe he'll go right.
	We'll see.
	But bye-bye, Johnny Somali, for as long as possible.
	Let's see, another comment.
	A few weeks ago, I asked you about the possibility of Europeans from countries that may have passed the point of no return moving east.
	You expressed some hesitation about my use of that phrase.
	Well, yes, past the point of no return.
	I don't like that expression.
	However, the listener goes on, in your recent video on Great Britain, you seem to acknowledge the current state of affairs is dire and that meaningful course correction appears unlikely.
	Would you say that's a fair interpretation?
	Well, things are awful bad in Britain, that's for sure.
	And I don't know if I would say course correction is unlikely.
	I sure hope it happens.
	And I don't know if it's past the point of no return.
	I would use an expression like past the point of no return for Rhodesia, South Africa, one of those places where a non-white majority is firmly in power, and it is very, very difficult to imagine it being booted.
	I would not yet give up hope on the land of my ancestors.
	Mr. Kersey, most of your ancestors are from England, are they not?
	At least the British Isles.
	I apologize.
	I had to unmute because I was reading something that we're about to talk about.
	Yes, they are.
	I am what you would call a white American.
	I'm sorry, a white white Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
	So, yes, I would consider home the British Isles.
	Yes, and to see the British Isles degenerating before our very eyes is a gruesome and grievous thing, but I still don't call it past the point of no return.
	There are a lot of movements, a lot of activism inside the country trying to turn things around.
	So I will not yet write it off.
	And I'm not quite sure why this listener is so persistent in wanting me to say, yes, it's hopeless, throw up your hands and move to Estonia.
	Not yet.
	Not yet.
	I wouldn't want to move there.
	I'm not Estonian.
	No, no.
	I'd like to visit there, but no desire to live there.
	I have visited.
	It's wonderful.
	I've been in Lithuania.
	It's wonderful.
	We don't want to go there.
	Anyways.
	Well, okay, another comment.
	Could you speculate on the fate of the British royal family if whites become a minority in England?
	Well, the fact of the matter is, the British royal family is, although I like the idea of royalty, I like the idea of a head of state, represents the people.
	It's sort of a we can rally round the throne kind of patriotism.
	But the British royal family is not top of my concerns as to what will happen if whites become a minority in Great Britain.
	If whites become a minority, then there'll probably be some change of rules so that, I don't know, the king cannot be a white man.
	There'd be affirmative action, affirmative action, king and queen.
	It would be, I don't know, like homecoming king or queen.
	You know, the country votes for them.
	I can imagine something like that.
	But everything, everything, including the royal family, will go completely to pieces and to pot if the place becomes majority, non-white.
	That we can say, and the British royal family, whether it remains or not, will be something unrecognizable and probably a thing that would be revolting to any true British person.
	Last comment here.
	And this is a spooky one.
	My email provider is Apple, and my internet service provider is ComcastInfinity.
	Not only do I get a warning when I try to visit the Amran page, I get a warning when you, Jared Taylor, send a personal email message.
	It says, we blocked this page because it may be unsafe, even though this is just an email message and not a page.
	Now, I am rather spooked by this.
	There have been net nanny services for a long time that think that the Amran.com page is one of those that will suck your soul out of your body and it will turn you into a zop, and you will never survive if you come visit.
	But the idea of somehow connecting my personal email address to that horrible soul-sucking page and saying, okay, this Jared Taylor, he's dangerous.
	You really want to open up his email?
	I've never had that before.
	And I would be very curious, ladies and gentlemen, dear listeners, if any of you have ever had an experience of that kind corresponding with me.
	Now, most of you probably have never corresponded, but if you have, I would love to know if that's ever happened to you, that my messages themselves, my direct email Messages are somehow flagged as potentially dangerous.
	And if that's happened, please let me know.
	Wow.
	Wow, isn't that spooky?
	And so it seems very odd to me that any, any provider would have somehow linked my email address to the amran.com page.
	Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, we love to hear from you.
	And there are two ways to get a message to either me or to Mr. Kersey.
	You can reach me by going to amrin.com, that soul-sucking, horrible page.
	And you can go to the contact us tab, and you can write a message and it'll come straight to me.
	And there is another way.
	It's a way to get a message to the inimitable Paul Kersey.
	Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, it's because we live here at ProtonNow.com.
	Once again, because we live here at ProtonMail.com.
	And, you know, if you're not following Mr. Taylor or myself on Twitter, we totally invite you to rectify that inequity.
	I'm easy to follow at B-W-L-H underscore.
	And you can find Mr. Taylor at RealJar Taylor.
	And I suppose, while I'm at it, I don't like to toot our own horn very loudly.
	But the registrations have opened for the American Renaissance Conference, believe it or not.
	And you can go to the homepage, and there is our ad, American Renaissance Conference 2025, November 14th through 16, register now.
	And we have a number of European speakers.
	We have not identified them by name yet.
	But we have someone from Italy, someone from Great Britain, someone from Sweden.
	And in addition to this exotic imported talent, we have the one and only Sam Dixon, our presiding genius, Gregory Hood for American Renaissance, Eric Orwell, who is from The Return to the Land, and also your servant, Jaron Taylor.
	And there will be yet more speakers, but it's going to be a great time.
	And I urge you, I urge you to register while you get the early bird discount.
	And if you register now, you can stay at the lodge at Montgomery Bell State Park.
	We always run out of rooms there, and people have to stay sort of off campus, so to speak.
	But register now, be there or be square, as we used to say back in the 1950s before I was born.
	Yeah, no one says that anymore.
	Mr. Taylor, yes.
	Real quick, for those listeners who might not be familiar with it, just give us a 40,000-foot overview of what Return to the Land means.
	Well, that is an intentional all-white community.
	And in this case, Eric Orwell, who is the co-founder of Return to the Land, is part of a group that has bought, I think it's 160 acres in northern Arkansas.
	And they've set up a shop there.
	They're building houses, and it's exclusively and entirely all-white.
	And it has come under very considerable criticism.
	And as a matter of fact, one of the gloating news reports on it from TMZ was quoting the Attorney General of Arkansas saying this, all white, that's not right.
	We're going to look into these people.
	This is no good.
	Well, five days after the Attorney General of Arkansas had launched an investigation into Return to the Land, it discovered that it is breaking no laws.
	How can this be?
	It's because Return to the Land is a, I think, what is it?
	What do you call it?
	It's an association.
	It's an association which is of a legal structure that allows it to discriminate as far as membership is concerned.
	And if you are accepted to be a member, and then for a certain amount of money, you have the rights to a plot of land that you can build on in this 160, 170-acre community that they've set up.
	And so it is apparently according to the laws of Arkansas, and therefore probably according to the laws of practically every state in the Union, it is entirely legal to say, okay, members all got to be white, and they all got to agree with us, and nobody else, too bad.
	And they're going to build a place where they want to have large families of white people, happy, proud white people.
	And of course, the idea of having happy, white, white, happy, proud white people living together just makes so many people furious.
	But as I say, they got this wonderful ruling from the Attorney General.
	Now, this is not a final ruling, but they say, hey, we looked in this.
	We can't find anything wrong.
	So, boy, full steam ahead.
	And Eric Orwell will be able to answer all of your questions about return to the land and the legal structure that permits it to happen at the American Renaissance Conference.
	Register.
	I highly recommend everybody take the opportunity to get the chance to meet with the individuals that you read or you listen to.
	It is a tremendous experience.
	Now, Mr. Kersey will not be there.
	Mr. Kersey is shy, poor thing.
	So he's unlikely to be there.
	But he'll be there in spirit.
	Now, let's see.
	Oh, this was a dismal piece of news.
	I hate to start with dismal news, but the Washington State Supreme Court has quietly approved a rule change that gives activist judges sweeping new authority to dismiss criminal charges.
	The change allows judges to throw out a prosecution they personally decide is unjust based on vague subjective factors like the impact of a dismissal on the safety or welfare of the community or of the defendant's community or the impact of a dismissal or a lack of dismissal upon the confidence of the public in the criminal justice system.
	In other words, obviously, this is built for non-white criminals.
	And if the judge decides, oh, well, you know, we have sent so many proud, strong black men to the big house, the community is just so upset.
	The community is losing faith in the criminal justice system.
	Well, this guy may have killed only four or five people, but, you know, the community will just lose faith in the justice system if we put him behind bars.
	So we're just going to dismiss.
	We're going to dismiss charges.
	In other words, if the judge feels the criminal needs a break or they think there's a community crisis, then they can say, nope, we're not going to charge this guy.
	And the rule changes effective September 1st, 2025.
	Now, there was a similar proposal that failed in the legislature.
	The bill was meant to let judges reduce sentences based on their personal beliefs about the fairness of the systems.
	And lawmakers said, no, no, no, we got too many cuckoo judges on the Supreme Court.
	And now, ignoring this legislative rejection, the Washington State Supreme Court has said, yes, judges can say, nope, nope, not this guy.
	We're not going to prosecute him.
	He's already got five armed robbery convictions and, you know, six.
	That's just nasty.
	So we're going to let him walk this time.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, you have a very interesting story about the kind of Americana paintings that DHS is promoting.
	I find this very intriguing and encouraging.
	Yeah, there's a lot happening right now.
	You know, Mr. Taylor, I want to give a quick shout out to the podcast that Greg Hood and I just did on a subject that you probably roll your eyes out, the passing of Hulk Hogan and that importance to the concept of America and what's happened to the country.
	I should point out that just before we started recording this podcast, Governor Ron DeSantis has declared that August 1st, moving forward, will forever be known as Hulk Hogan Day in the state of Florida.
	So I think that shows you a very strange twist of things that are happening when you consider that 10 years ago, last month, he was let go of his contract by the WWE, sir, because of the N-Word tapes that were released.
	And now he comes crawling back to a point where he is forever going to be canonized on August 1st in the state of Florida.
	Well, you're right.
	My eyes are rolling.
	But I suppose if someone who has used N-Word and then been condemned to sackcloth and ashes and then has come back and is now a hero and has a name, has a day named in his honor every year, I suppose that's something.
	But still, he was a professional wrestler.
	What else was he?
	Entrepreneur, an actor, a role model.
	He was at one point the most requested make-a-wish personality who would show up for Terminal Children.
	That's that right.
	Well, you know, that's very nice.
	And he would show up and be nice to them.
	He would spend a long time with them, actually.
	Good for him.
	Good for him.
	I mean, I've never had such a request.
	I would be honored if some racially conscious, poor, cancer-stricken child wanted to spend his last moments with me, but it hasn't happened, but I stand ready.
	I think that would be that would be quite the request.
	I read White Identity and If We Do Nothing, and you know what?
	I just want to meet Jared Taylor.
	Yes, yes.
	I mean, gosh, I'd fly out into heartbeat.
	But that would be a great video.
	Okay, so yes, the Americana Painters.
	Yeah, this is from the Washington Post.
	The Department of Homeland Security's social media feed all throughout July has been largely filled with images of alligator Alcatraz and promises to make America safe again by deporting the worst of the worst.
	However, we've started to see the agency, their ex, share images of Thomas Kincaid's Morning Pledge, a painting depicting children walk into a schoolhouse where an American flag towers in the yard.
	Protect the homeland, DHS wrote.
	The artist may have passed away in 2012, but when his family saw how his work was being used by the Trump administration, they were aghast.
	Kincaid was deeply committed to humanitarian causes, a spokesperson for his family foundation told WAPO, and made paintings that offered a sense of dignity and hope, especially to those denied basic human rights.
	Felt starkly in trast with DHS's mass deportation campaign and its social media account depicting immigrants as criminals.
	Well, they're just saying that we need to remove illegal aliens, which makes you a criminal if you're an illegal alien.
	Quotes, like many of you, we were deeply troubled to see this image used to promote division and xenophobia associated with the ideals of DHS, as this is antithetical to our mission, the foundation put out in a statement.
	We stand firmly with our communities who have been threatened and targeted by DHS.
	Well, painting was one of three, Mr. Taylor, and dear listener, that DHS posts on social media in the month of July, depicting idealized images of American life.
	The others include 19th century painter John Gass's controversial American progress and contemporary artist Morgan Whistling's A Prayer for a New Life.
	Whistling, the only of the artists still alive, he's also spoken out against DHS's use of his payment.
	Now, the images bookended by Post here in the admins deportation campaign, they've been widely shared by conservatives and sparked alarm among the artists, their families, and some historians who see their use as part of an effort to rewrite the past with an exclusionary view of American history.
	And Mr. Taylor, you are a student of American history pretty much up until what?
	1964?
	The exclusionary view of American history is the correct one, right?
	Well, nobody else made much of a difference.
	That's true, except when there were enough Indians who had enough numbers to nearly exterminate the Jamestown colony, for example, or King Philip's War.
	Once those pretty serious threats to the colonization of at least the New England area, the Virginia area were gone.
	You know, it's only white people who really were the players.
	It had any effect on American history.
	And that's not exclusion.
	That's just stating the facts.
	I mean, when you find a continent full of Stone Age people, and that's what they were, they're just not going to have that much effect on the history of the continent when more advanced folks show up.
	You know, it's funny.
	I just picked up a couple books on King Philip's War, and what a shocking, gruesome, violent, incredible tale of the burgeoning of American identity on this continent.
	Yes.
	And, you know, the amazing thing about it is that I believe it was in, it took place mostly in Massachusetts, and they appealed to the white people of Rhode Island, as I recall, and their old Rhode Islanders say, hey, not our problem.
	You know, those are your Indians and those are your farms and get banned.
	So it was really, it's an eye-opening thing.
	I almost don't want to study more deeply into it.
	And King Philip, that was the name of the, that was the name that the Congress gave to the Indian chief because I think he had one of those unpronounceable names.
	But wow, they were brutal, brutal, brutal people.
	And finally, they figured out the tactics that were necessary in order to defeat the Indians.
	But that is quite a chapter in American history.
	And really, really started to forge the reality of what the white settlers as they colonized the nation.
	And then it really puts into perspective what the Declaration of Independence talks about when it comes to merciless savage.
	Merciless.
	Boy, were they merciless?
	And that this really was.
	I mean, people have argued that this was one of the experiences that forged an American identity that was completely racial.
	This is a threat to us as white people, and we are a nation of white people.
	100%.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	Oh, well, sorry.
	Finish that up.
	And I want to get back to Thomas Kinkade of all people.
	Yeah.
	So, well, actually, go ahead because we're actually going to step away from Kinkade for a second.
	So go ahead and bring him up.
	Well, I remember in a mall in Southern California, and they had a whole store devoted to Thomas Kinkade canvases.
	And they are, they are the, I don't know, I don't consider this high art at all.
	How to describe it, really.
	It's almost the Disney version of art.
	These kind of idealized, almost goofy scenes.
	And the other thing I just, I noticed is that every building that's depicted, no matter what time of day, there are lights on in every window.
	I thought that was a very strange aspect.
	It's sort of the realtor's delight.
	Realtors always want to show you house of lights turned on in every single room.
	I guess all of these are being visited by prospective buyers because in the middle of the day, you know, every light is on in every room.
	Got it.
	You see how specious things are.
	Exactly.
	I never understood how Thomas Kinkade could be so popular.
	Now, I've not seen that particular DHS1.
	What was the name of the thing?
	Was it Walker?
	What was the name of that picture?
	Morning Pledge.
	It's kind of sacrificing, best way to describe it.
	So that's the word, saccharin.
	But, I mean, it's sure better than the rubbish that we're supposed to think is, gosh, great art these days.
	Anyway, no, that's a deviation on the subject of Thomas Kinkade.
	Poor boy's dead now, I guess.
	It's all upset.
	Well, his family's upset, probably because they can't profit off of the DHS posting.
	There's no way to monetize it.
	Although maybe they've gotten some people to buy postcards and Hallmark cards.
	But anyways, Natalia, I'm not even going to try and pronounce her last name.
	We'll say Bogdan.
	She's the deputy director of the international program at the Nonpartisan Migrant Policy Institute.
	Had this to say: there's one side that's being presented as irredeemable criminals with no shade of gray allowed in.
	So people shouldn't have any reservation about the treatment of these people or use of very punitive measures because it's a caricature.
	Then on the other side, here are the heroes.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	That's not a caricature.
	It's the fact.
	Facts?
	Yes.
	We got law enforcers and we got law breakers.
	I mean, which side are you on, lady?
	It's quite clear which side she's on.
	Exactly.
	These dead white males have to go, and the society that they tried to bequeath to their posterity needs to be replaced.
	However, Tricia McLaughlin, a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, said the agency is honoring artwork that celebrates America's history and heritage.
	Quote, if the media needs a history lesson on the brave men and women who blazed the trails and forged this republic from the sweat of their brow, we are happy to send them a history textbook.
	This administration is unapologetically proud of American history and American heritage, end quote.
	Yeah, that textbook or that history book should be Conquest of a Continent by Madison Grant.
	That would be great.
	Well, I did find the Thomas Kinkade image you're talking about.
	It looks like it's set in the 1950s.
	All these 1950s cars and a couple of white boys are walking towards a schoolhouse and the schoolhouse is there with an American flag.
	And of course, in every window on the street leading up to the school and the schoolhouse, every window is lit up.
	Every light is on.
	Despite the fact that it's probably early morning or it's morning one time, you'd be going off to school.
	And even the cars have got their headlights on.
	So boy, you're going to always find electricity just burning away in a Thomas Kinkade painting.
	But it's all very, very homey.
	It's the kind of place you'd want to grow up.
	That's right.
	Maybe it's all solar powered, so you won't be thinking about the 50s.
	Not in the 50s.
	So the use of paintings in official government communication comes amid a broader effort by the Trump administration to reshape the country's arts and cultural landscape.
	This has included a major overhaul of the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts, drastic cuts at the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities, and a March executive order to restore the Smithsonian institution to its rightful place as a symbol of inspiration and American greatness.
	The agency recently posted a meme of a skeleton lifting a barbell with the message, quote, my body is a machine that turns ICE funding into mass deportations.
	It was fantastic.
	I think I retweeted that.
	The account also posted an image of alligators wearing U.S. immigration, U.S. ice hats with the caption, coming soon, as it teased the arrival of alligator Alcatraz deep in the heart of the Everglades in Florida.
	And of course, early this year, the White House posted a video of migrants shackled before boarding a deportation flight captioned with ASMR, illegal alien deportation flight.
	So Washington Post is, of course, bemoaning this.
	They didn't go into detail, though, about the one painting by the gentleman who is still alive.
	Oh, gosh, what was his name?
	I'm looking for his name right now.
	Not John Golden.
	Morgan Wesseling.
	That was the one that was, in my opinion, the biggest dog whistle, sir, because it shows a horse-drawn buggy in the Midwest and a white family.
	And it was pretty obvious what that was celebrating.
	Well, you know, John Gast's painting, American Progress.
	Have you ever seen that painting before?
	That's a famous one.
	That's the one with the, that's Manifest Destiny with the woman leading everyone forward.
	That's right.
	Well, she's sort of floating above this beautiful woman in a white dress.
	And over on the left, you find these fleeing Indians.
	And everybody's moving left, moving west.
	And you've got a covered wagon and a stagecoach.
	And then further back, we've got the railroad.
	The railroad is coming.
	And really in the lead, you've got these pioneer types walking and on horseback.
	And then you've got farmers, all of them white.
	And the only non-whites are these Indians who are retreating.
	You got Buffalo sort of retreating with the Indians.
	Yeah, pretty clear message here.
	This is the Conquest of Canada.
	Let you say this is Madison Grant in action.
	No, it really is.
	And that painting was actually on the cover of a book that was published, I want to say 2019 or between 2019 and 2021, it was called Teaching White Supremacy and American History.
	And it's one of these books by an advocate of DEI view of American history.
	And as is so often with these books, though, it's inspiring to read, if you read it from our eye, and you're like, well, everything that this person's bemoaning advanced the interest of our people.
	That's right.
	Now, for those of you who are not familiar with this painting, and many of our, many of our listeners are from outside the United States, the painter was John Gast, G-A-S-T.
	And the painting is called American Progress, and it was painted in 1872.
	That's when, boy, the United States was a land of great optimism, moving west, conquering the continent.
	Wow, the railroads are coming through.
	This was a great time to be alive.
	That painting should actually be in the classroom of every K through 12 school.
	Excellent idea.
	Excellent idea.
	Well, you know, this was not the order in which we were going to do this, but I think it would be fitting now if you were to talk about another story that you had in mind.
	And that was this new designation, Heritage Americans.
	Would you care to move to that story at this point?
	I would love to because I was going to recommend the same thing.
	So Politico today published an article.
	Just happened to see before we went live.
	The online rights' favorite nativist slogan is gaining traction in the real world.
	This is why you never stop posting, folks.
	You have no idea the type of conversation, the type of ideas that people are interacting with for the first time.
	And when they unwrap it, they're going to be shocked how deep the rabbit hole really goes to a new world they've never thought about.
	And this is one of those.
	Social media user, conservative writer and entrepreneur C.J. Engel, he in his short bio on X, to list a few phrases describing himself and his background said, son of California Sierra's classical Protestant and in a nod to his proudly reactionary politics, counterrevolutionary.
	But the first descriptor in his bio is the most notable.
	Heritage American.
	Now, it's not a term that the average social media user has likely encountered, let alone heard in casual conversation.
	But among a certain cohort of young and well-connected conservatives, Heritage American used to describe people who trace their roots to the founding generations of the U.S. Well, it's gaining traction as a kind of slogan of the new nativist right that's coalesced behind Trump and the MAGA movement.
	It's popping up with more and more frequency along the online right.
	There's a headline, Who Are Heritage America?
	Who are Heritage Americans?
	Reads the article of a recent Substack post that made the rounds on social media.
	Heritage America, who are they?
	Why does it matter?
	That was the title of a recently live streamed discussion on X. The borders of Heritage America, however, are extending beyond the conservative internet.
	The Trump admin doubled down on its immigration crackdown and seeks to close long-established pathways to citizenship in the U.S. The idea is embedded in the slogan that American identity is defined by ancestry rather than by adherence to universal principles is finding real world expression in the politics and policies of Trump's USA to go from a proposition nation to an actual nation.
	So that's a step that I think the late Sam Francis, Mr. Taylor, would be proud of.
	Major players in the mainstream are starting to absorb some of the things we're thinking about, said Engel.
	That's the zeitgeist at play.
	Like a lot of phrases drawn from internet discourse, the precise definition of Heritage American can get a bit fuzzy around the edges.
	And its exact meaning remains the subject of some debate.
	However, in its most basic sense, the phrase refers to present-day Americans who trace their ancestral roots to the colonial period or shortly thereafter.
	Depending on you may ask, the category also includes the offspring of Indigenous Americans and the ADOS or American descendants of slavery.
	You know, I don't think many people who use the term heritage Americans include American defendants, descendants of slavery, or American Indians.
	Not at all.
	No, not at all.
	That's not part of it.
	Sorry.
	You don't qualify.
	No, it does not.
	And that's something that Engel says at its most fundamental, Heritage America refers to the offspring of the Anglo-Protestant and Scottish and Scotch-Irish settlers.
	In other words, the white people who populated the original colonies before heading west to settle the American frontier.
	Those are his words, and I would 100% agree with him, Mr. Taylor.
	So would I. Good man.
	Heritage America isn't just a demographic character category, though.
	It's also, for lack of a better word, a vibe, as John Harris, a conservative writer, said, who has written about the Heritage America debate, put it online.
	A loose aesthetic has developed around the term, cultivated via memes and viral prose posts.
	These aesthetics draw heavily on the nostalgic symbolism of The colonial period and the 19th century frontier supplemented by a hefty dose of gauzy Americana.
	There's nothing wrong with gauzy Americana.
	Gauze.
	Gauzy.
	It's all gauzy.
	What we want to put, what we're trying to do is coagulate the borders so we don't lose that gauzy Americana.
	So exactly right.
	The difference.
	Yeah, exactly.
	We're hemorrhaging here, folks.
	Images of Daniel Boone and his coon skin cap pioneers abound alongside Norman Rockwell Paintings of mid-20th century American life.
	Quote: It's the knight, the cavalier, and then the cowboy.
	I'd go one step further and say the astronaut as well.
	But Harris, who claims direct ancestry from Daniel Boone's father, Squire Boone, quote, It's about what it looks like to be galliant and to have these virtuous characteristics that we associate with the leaders of our civilization, end quote.
	While the specific worldview surrounding Heritage America may have been incubated online, it's increasingly finding its way into the policies and rhetoric of the Trump admin.
	In a speech at the Claremont Institute this past July, J.D. Vance urged conservatives to reject the view that America is founded exclusively on a common creed, reviving a theme from his acceptance speech at the RNC in 2024, where he said, quote, America is not just an idea.
	We're a particular place with a particular people and a particular set of beliefs and a way of life that allowed our ancestors to tame a wild continent.
	If the subtext wasn't clear enough, he added, that is our heritage as Americans.
	Now, just real quick, the self-identified members of Heritage America know what you're probably thinking.
	Isn't the term just a not so subtle euphemism for white?
	Indeed, as the term has gained traction on the right, critics have charged that conservatives have adopted the term principally as a way to launder white nationalism with facially neutral language.
	As the New York Times Ezekiel Kweku recently put, anybody with anybody with a surname that is spelled K-K-W-E-K-U-K-K-W-E, then what?
	Kweku, with three K's.
	Ezekiel Kweku.
	Wow, exactly.
	That sounds dangerous.
	It does sound dangerous.
	Yeah, I guess if you remove the W and two vowels, you've got a very different Kweku.
	Again, others charge that it's a little more than blood and soil nationalism rebranded under a label.
	Again, blood and soil nationalism is always what's going to be the engine that drives a true, vibrant, successful, and healthy people, which has been exactly why we have such a seemingly terminal problem that can easily be fixed with just a healthy dose of Heritage Americana.
	Now, one quick question.
	He can, or not question, but one final point.
	Engel concedes that some conservatives may use the term this way, but he maintains the essence of Heritage America.
	It's not reducible to racial or ethnic categories.
	A second generation immigrant from Sweden might be white, he says, but they're not heritage American.
	Indeed, the term is supposed to denote a type of nationalism that threads the needle between creedal nationalism, the idea that American identity derives from universal principles, and purely ethnic or racial nationalism on the other.
	Quote, a lot of this was me trying to find a third way between those two positions.
	I wanted a more classical, more traditional approach to these questions of national identity.
	And that's the story from Politico.
	Again, it's very interesting that in the month of July, sir, you have the Washington Post publish a long article noticing the patterns of what Homeland Security is tweeting out.
	Now, you and I, we talked about a video that they put out with the America the Beautiful song playing.
	No, no, it was this land is your land.
	This land is your land.
	It's even more to the point.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	It's a great video that they, I think they tweeted out on Tuesday, the 29th of July.
	And it is a video where, to my eyes, I'm only seeing white people, white families, young white families from sea to sighting sea.
	You've got the Redwoods when it goes to the Redwood Forest.
	And, of course, we all know who was the savior of the Redwoods.
	One of the main people, the proponents of preservation, was, of course, Madison Grant, who was such a cultivator of maintaining the national integrity of not just the racial components, but also our beautiful landmarks and history that we inherited.
	He believed in biodiversity, biodiversity.
	My favorite kind.
	And biodiversity can survive only where there are borders and boundaries.
	And people who cultivate and adhere to the characteristics that make this land great.
	And of course, the land can only be great when the people are great.
	Well, again, it was remarkable to me.
	Whatever these days, somebody starts seeing this land is your land, this land is my land.
	They'll have some Navajo and they'll have some subcontinental Indian and they'll have a Mongolian and they'll have maybe a token white man.
	But all of these people from everywhere, you know, people with bones in their noses, they're all saying, this land is my land.
	But to have it with nothing but white people, wow, my jaw dropped, I must say.
	Things are changing.
	And I haven't looked yet, sir, to see if there's anybody who has their proverbial panties in a wad regarding that video.
	I'm sure there's an article, but again, with media matters now on the verge of insolvency, a lot of these gatekeeping news entities or hall monitors are kind of going away.
	And Goodrich.
	Well, let's see.
	From the sublime to the ridiculous.
	Candace Taylor, no relation, I might add, of Slydale, Louisiana, was arrested on Monday.
	Taylor applied for Medicaid in May 2019 under an alias, Candice Saylor, listing a bi-weekly income of $1,900.
	But investigators eventually discovered she owned six businesses that generated more than $9.5 million between January 2020 and December 2024.
	That, Mr. Kersey, is more than $2 million a year.
	Sorry, $2 million a year.
	And I don't think even you make more than $2 million a year.
	And a look at her account turned up some interesting items.
	There was a payment of $45,000 to Audi Finance, so she likes exciting wheels.
	Another purchase was a $100,000 wire transfer, followed by a $13,000 debit for a 2022 Lamborghini Urus.
	I guess she got tired of the Audi and went Lamborghini.
	And she made all sorts of withdrawals that paid for property, cosmetic surgery, a girl making that kind of money.
	I can't drive a Lamborghini and look cheap.
	High-end jewelry, luxury services, you name it.
	Well, two months after she bought the Lamborghini, Taylor tried to renew her Medicaid benefits, claiming she made $4,000 a month.
	Now, I just don't understand this.
	If you're making $2 million a year, why are you going to bother to fake poverty so that you can get on Medicaid?
	Well, she is an African-Americaness, but even an African-Americaness who has got the brains to be pulling down that kind of dope dough, you'd think she wouldn't do that.
	Except, I just got a new release on Cousin Candace here.
	Latest news says she may have been running several of those fake clinics where everyone cashes in on Medicare.
	These are people with fake diseases.
	They milk Medicare.
	They charge for services that are never delivered.
	And the owners make millions.
	So if that's the case, she probably knew the Medicare system inside and out.
	That, well, okay, you know, I'm making $2 million a year, and I can supplement this by maybe, you know, another $10,000, $12,000 by going on Medicare.
	What the heck?
	That's my guess.
	But there you go.
	She is behind bars.
	Now, here's another dismal story.
	This is our new Pope, the new all-American Pope, Mr. Kersey, in a letter.
	Pope Leo, I think he's the, what is he, the 14th or the 13th?
	I can't remember.
	He's one of these.
	He wrote that the widespread tendency to look after the interests of limited communities.
	That's you and me, Brother Heritage American.
	This looking after the interests of limited communities poses a serious threat to the pursuit of the common good and global solidarity.
	Uh-oh.
	He said migrants are the embodiment of an aspiration to seek happiness even outside of one's own homeland.
	In a world darkened by war and injustice, even when all seems lost, migrants and refugees stand as messengers of hope.
	Their courage and tenacity bear heroic testimony to a faith that sees beyond what our eyes can see and gives them strength to defy death on the various contemporary migration routes.
	Now, where do you even begin with something like this?
	The pursuit, you know, the pursuit of your community.
	If you want something good for your family, your community, your nation, your race, that is undermining global solidarity.
	And you're working against the benefit of our entire human family, Mr. Kersey.
	Were you aware of that?
	And so these people, these people who are breaking our laws, probably hate us.
	They don't want to be like us.
	They can't be like us.
	But according to Pope Leo, they are messengers of hope.
	Well, put that in your heritage pipe and smoke it.
	Boy, oh, boy.
	Same, no, I guess you've got to say, new Pope, same old rubbish.
	Yeah, I was actually thinking back to the prior story and wondering how much skin lightning cream and hair products to fix the natural hairstyle of the individual you were speaking of probably spent per month.
	To try and look more like Sidney Sweeney.
	Candace Taylor.
	Well, who knows what kind of surgery she had, but I'm sure a lady driving a Lamborghini, you know, she's got to look sharp.
	Can't be just some dowdy old bag.
	Well, let's see.
	Scotland has a terrible dilemma, according to the Guardian.
	The Guardian, which used to be called the Manchester Guardian, but still just as lefty-left adepts can be.
	It says hundreds of skulls are neatly and closely placed cheekbone to cheekbone in mahogany framed glass cabinets at the University of Edinburgh's skull room.
	I'd love to visit.
	Many were voluntarily donated to the university.
	Others came from executed Scottish criminals.
	And some, uh-oh, uh-oh, here are the red flags.
	Some indigenous people's skulls were brought to Scotland.
	They were almost certainly acquired by the Edinburgh Phrenological Society to study supposed racial differences.
	Researchers believe that their case exemplifies the challenging question facing the university, which is, ah, this collection played a pivotal role in the creation and perpetuation of racist ideas about white supremacy.
	Ideas taught to thousands of Edinburgh students who dispersed across the British Empire.
	So I think they've found the epicenter of white supremacy right here in this skull room, Mr. Kersey.
	And the Anatomical Museum's collection now contains 1,500 skulls.
	Many of these remains, quote, were taken without consent from prisons, asylums, hospitals, archaeological sites, and battlefields.
	Well, you know, if you're on the battlefield and you're cleaning up and you decide that you're going to add a skull to the collection, I don't think anybody's going to complain.
	Somebody's got to get rid of those bones.
	This is the point of view of Tom Gillingwater, who now oversees the collection.
	Now, the Edinburgh Phrenological Society was founded in the 1700s.
	Phrenology claimed to be able to detect an individual's intellect and moral character from bumps and grooves on the skull.
	I've always been amused by phrenology.
	Years ago, when I was a boy, I saw a chart of phrenology.
	And the idea was that different parts of your brain control different parts of your personality or your physical abilities.
	You have to bump in one place.
	You know, you could feel somebody's skull.
	Boy, you've got quite an athletic ability here.
	I can feel it right here.
	And you are very popular with the ladies.
	I can feel it over here on this part of your skull.
	So that was the idea.
	I mean, it was not completely cuckoo, just only about 85% cuckoo.
	In any case, phonology was never formally taught at Edinburgh, and it was heavily contested even at the time by other Edinburgh academics.
	But of course, you've got to combine the idea of phrenology, which was always a little bit cuckoo, as I say, with the idea of racial differences in physiology.
	However, Alexander Monroe III, an anatomy professor at the University of Edinburgh Medical School, once lectured that the Negro skull and consequently the brain is smaller than that of the European.
	Needless to say, needless to say, the Guardian has nothing to say about whether or not that was in fact true.
	And of course it was and it still is.
	Now there's a real problem.
	Engagement surrounding repatriation is taking place.
	And more than 100 skulls have been repatriated.
	Now, isn't that a lovely term?
	They've been repatriated.
	Gillingwater, this weak sister who runs the skull collection, he says, to look at repatriation, burials, or whatever, it's literally years of work almost for each individual case.
	And what I've found is that every individual culture you deal with wants things done completely differently.
	He worries that many of the skulls will never be identified and their provenance is likely to remain unknown.
	That is something that keeps me awake at night, says Gillingwater.
	That's what's keeping him awake at night.
	I mean, he's worrying about, okay, we've got this ancient skull that's about 200 years old and we don't know who it belongs to.
	And how are we going to get it back to its relatives or its descendants?
	Oh my gosh.
	And my question for you, Mr. Kersey: what is someone who lives in, I don't know, Sumatra or Borneo supposed to do when he gets a letter from Gillingwater?
	Hey, we have this 200-year-old skull and our DNA testing suggests that it might, might, might, might, might be your great-great-grandpa three times removed.
	What in heaven's name?
	This is the problem that keeps this guy awake at night.
	Well, I thought race was a social construct, so how can they determine the origin of the skull if it's all nonsense and pseudoscience?
	It is a bewilderment.
	Maybe that's what's keeping him awake at night.
	So, how can we, how can we realize that this is Sumatran?
	Well, maybe Sumatran's a social construct, too.
	Maybe all of us are Sumatrans.
	Again, a careful reading of that story and the way that what you just described completely demolishes so many of the ideas that are seemingly immutable to the left.
	Again, it's just a skull.
	It could be any skull.
	It's not a white person's skull.
	It's not a black person's skull.
	It's not a Sumatrian.
	It's not a funeral.
	Whatever they are.
	You shouldn't be able to determine that.
	I know.
	Shouldn't be able to.
	Well, let's see.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, this was a shocking story.
	People have got to go fund me for a Mexican murderer.
	There's a lot of, you know, there's so many strange stories on the internet about people who have been supposedly deported.
	There was some story about a Chilean who was an octogenarian who ended up being a Nicaragua or some nation in South America.
	I forgot where.
	Turned out to be a complete hoax, and people were up in arms about it.
	And this is not one of those stories now that has taken on its own life online.
	A GoFundMe campaign raised $12,000 for an illegal immigrant.
	I will never use the term illegal migrant as the story did.
	Referred to as Paco.
	He was detained last month by ICE in Washington, the state of Washington.
	Campaign described the illegal immigrant as a friend and a hardworking business owner.
	It has since been revealed, however, that Paco's real identity is Yussef Zarate Barbin, a Mexican national who is wanted in his home country for homicide.
	The online fundraiser was created by leftist activist Carissa Miller and was amplified in a recent news article published in the Olympian, a local newspaper that did not include his past in Mexico.
	Brandy Cruz, an independent journalist and host of the Undivided podcast, was the first to report on the apprehended migrants.
	I'm sorry, the apprehended illegal aliens' true identity.
	I just went back on my claim.
	The GoFundMe campaign for Paco has since been shut down as of Tuesday, July 29th.
	And right at the time, on June 24th, my close friend and neighbor, Paco, was abducted by ICE.
	He was pulled over while riding passenger and removed from the vehicle without warrant or receiving any information about why he was being detained.
	Currently being held in the Northwest Detention Center, still has been told why he's being held, the fundraiser read.
	Paco, he's a local business owner of a mechanic shop in Lacey, as well as running a small organic farm.
	All of this on the books.
	He was the breadwinner for his family, who are struggling to wrap up loose ends and shut down his business in his absence.
	Shouldn't be too hard to shut down a small organic farm to stop watering the plants, right?
	It's probably in his backyard.
	Exactly.
	It's in his neighbor's backyard.
	Even better.
	Homeland Security Investigations, Pacific Northwest, first reported on Zarate Barbin's arrest on June 27th.
	He was apprehended a few days later.
	He's a 34-year-old Mexican national, and he was arrested by HSI Seattle U.S. Marshals.
	Zarate is wanted in his home country for homicide and violated the terms of admission to the U.S. Seattle ERO Seattle has detained him pending removal proceedings.
	The federal agency wrote on X. Sorry to say that it didn't include a really cool Thomas Kincaid painting with all of the lights on in the houses, but at least the lights are on now with ICE being allowed to do their job, sir.
	Online records show that he is the owner of two businesses, Reese Auto Repair at Olympia, Washington, and Zarate's Farm, LLC.
	It's a lot of tax write-offs, I'm sure.
	The post-millennial obtained records from Washington State's secretary's office that show both of these businesses were under investigation for non-compliant delinquencies.
	It's unclear how he was able to become a business owner, given his illegal alien status in the United States.
	I'm sure that's a question that you could multiply by three, four, five, 10 million.
	Well, I saw a story the other day of an illegal alien who became a policeman in Maine.
	That's an incredible story.
	I couldn't believe that.
	Yeah, because he tried to obtain a firearm and ATF flagged him.
	Yeah.
	An illegal immigrant becomes a policeman as if they, and he's from Somalia or South Sudan or something, one of these black-as-tar kind of guys, and he was a policeman.
	Gee Willikers.
	Anyway, I interrupted rudely, rudely.
	No, you didn't.
	You correctly and accurately just helped put into perspective just how insane the problem of illegal aliens being promoted in our society and people within positions of authority looking the other way, whether it's a small town in Maine to hire a black illegal alien.
	As a policeman.
	Well, so this guy starts this fraudulent money-raising hoax for a murderer or an accused murderer, I suppose we should say, an illegal immigrant who's wanted back in his home country for killing somebody.
	Well, this reminds me of another story here.
	Well, real quick, if I could finish this one, just in case anybody is an Olympia listening to this and you want to buy a cheap mechanic shop and maybe even a backyard organic farm, the GoFundMe campaign stated is businesses are now for sale.
	We're working hard to sell off any assets to bring money in, but it's difficult without Paco here as the business and its assets are in his name.
	If anyone wants to buy a mechanic shop in a business, please let us know.
	Again, you just have to wonder how many businesses were allowed to be registered and created that could simply be with, again, I hate to say what I'm about to say because I know a lot of people out there are going to be like, oh my gosh, you guys are shields for Peter Thiel.
	But couldn't sophisticated AI go into and look at a lot of the business license and this type of stuff that people have created within these agencies?
	I mean, do we even know that they had licenses?
	I mean, I guess that they were, weren't they investigating them for license violations?
	No, it makes no sense to me, but this sort of thing seems to happen all the time.
	Well, let's see.
	In California, a woman faked her own abduction by ICE as part of a scheme to collect donations on GoFundMe.
	This was Uriana Julia Palaez Calderon, age 41.
	Her family claimed that she was abducted.
	They're always abducted.
	You know, they're illegal immigrants.
	I mean, if a mugger or rapist is arrested, you'd say he's abducted.
	No.
	But if they're illegal immigrants, they were abducted by bounty hunters and then presented to an ICE staffer and went through self-deportation paperwork.
	That's what her family claimed.
	And the family's lawyers at Calderon refused to sign the paperwork and was punished by held a detention warehouse.
	Warehouse.
	And there were videos of a press conference held by her family.
	Lawyers show supporters of Calderon holding signs saying, our mom is missing.
	Stop the abduction.
	Where is Yuli?
	Well, following attention with the media, the family created a GoFundMe page, which has since been deleted, where they were asking for, guess how much money, Mr. Kersey?
	How much money is a 41-year-old grandma named Uriana Calderon worth?
	I'm going to guess $500,000.
	All they wanted was $4,500.
	Yep.
	Yep, $4,500.
	Now, the DHS, well, they must know her pretty well.
	The DHS launched an investigation into this so-called kidnapping, during which they spent days looking for such a person and even had ICE agents searching detention cell at the detention cell.
	Turns out she was out shopping at a plaza in Southern California in Bakersfield, and she continued to insist that she'd been kidnapped and held with others.
	Well, the organizers of the campaign will not have access to the $80 the GoFundMe page raised in donations.
	They got a full $80 on this girl.
	But what, what cheek?
	What, golly, I hope they boot her in double quick time.
	What a way to go.
	So let's see.
	What do we got here?
	Oh, you know, there's a story that has been on my radar for a long time.
	Do we have time for that?
	Ah, boy, we don't have much time here.
	Nuts.
	Well, there's another story about an expiring rapper.
	I think this is one of your genius coinages, Mr. Kersey.
	We talk about all these aspiring rappers, aspiring rappers who soon become expiring rappers in your words.
	But four people were killed and more than a dozen others were wounded.
	What police have called a targeted drive-by shooting at a Chicago rapper's album release party?
	Crowds had gathered to celebrate the release of rapper Mello Bucks' new album, Hollyhood.
	Videos showed a red carpet and guests mingling and dancing.
	And Mello Bugs, a rapper from Chicago's Eastside, whose fan base is largely women, and she herself is a woman, had been performing.
	Well, as many as three occupants of a vehicle drove up and opened fire, there were 13 victims aging in range from 21 to 32.
	Two men and two women were pronounced dead.
	Four others remained in critical condition, four dead.
	Police now say they believe the rap star Buckez, whose real name is Melanie Doyle, was the intended target of the shooting, but she had already scampered off.
	Good luck for her.
	Police found both handgun and rifle casings.
	You know, usually it's the men who are being shot at.
	Someone must really hate this mellow.
	Maybe there's some sort of new form of black feminism.
	Well, the location of the shooting was a black and LGBTQ-owned restaurant, which opened in April, posting on Instagram that was created as a safe space where black, brown, queer, and allied communities could gather, be celebrated, and feel at home.
	Oh, boy.
	You know, something tells me, sir, that the only places in the country where a rap release party has probably never happened or there's never been a drive-by shooting is in either Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and potentially Idaho, Montana, and the Dakotas.
	Maybe those states are free of aspiring rappers, regrettably expiring well before their debut album has.
	I've often argued that this must be the most dangerous profession in America.
	But, you know, it is very sad.
	Mayor Brandon Johnson said the venue was a safe space in particular for the LGBTQ plus community.
	However, a 2012 shooting at the same location left one man dead and three people injured, leading to the shutdown of Hush, a bar that had been there at the time.
	So it is a place where the bullets fly, but this is really very strange.
	They're gunning down lady rappers as well as gentleman rappers.
	There probably weren't too many Heritage Americans at Hush that day.
	I suspect not.
	Well, well, fellow Heritage American, I believe we've come to the end of our time.
	This regrettably happens every single week.
	But I'm sure my indispensable co-host joins me in expressing my deep appreciation for this opportunity to speak to you, ladies and gentlemen.
	Every week we enjoy it.
	We consider it an honor a pleasure.

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