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May 8, 2025 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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Judge Jamal Interprets the Constitution

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey wonder at our brave new world that has such people in it. They also discuss Matt Taibbi, Finnish wokies, transport equity, and the crisis in the sommelier trade. [We apologize for the poor sound quality. We'll fix it for future episodes.]

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	Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Radio Horizons.
	I'm your host, Jared Taylor, and with me is my indispensable co-host, none other than Paul Kersey.
	Today is May 7th, the year of our Lord, 2025, and we have lots of comments from listeners, Mr. Kersey, and we'll start with one that's about a question about which I don't really spend that much time thinking, but others do.
	And the question is, would you consider the people and countries from the Caucasus region and the peoples and islands around the Mediterranean as of European descent?
	Well, those are two different questions.
	The Caucasus, oddly enough, that is the region for which the name Caucasian comes.
	But I don't think all that many people from the Caucasus area would I consider Europeans.
	We're talking about Azerbaijanis, Chechnyans, Georgians.
	People from Dagestan, Armenia, I'd say they're mostly white.
	I'm sorry, mostly not white.
	As the Mediterranean Islands, you know, the Balearic Islands, Sicily, Corsica, Sardinia, Greek Islands, I'd say mostly white.
	Then you get to Cyprus, lots of Turks on there who probably are not white, but also a lot of Greeks.
	But again, this is just my own personal opinion, and as I say, I don't think too...
	No, I would side with you on that.
	I would definitely say that the Turks are definitely an amalgamation at this point.
	I've seen a lot of photos, though, of some beautiful women in Turkey.
	Some Turks seem awfully white to me, but it's really sort of a case-by-case thing.
	Correct.
	Let's see.
	Now, here is a comment, not typical, but I thought it was worth repeating because it does express a certain point of view.
	You are a disgrace to the human race.
	Your existence pollutes progress, poisons discourse, and mocks every struggle humanity has ever made towards equality.
	But...
	You will lose.
	Your movement will rot, and when history buries you, it won't be with respect.
	It'll be with disgust.
	Well, gosh, somebody really takes us seriously, Mr. Kersey.
	Now, here is the kind of comment that I really enjoy.
	Somebody is trying to get us into line, make sure that we've got the right ideas.
	This man says, on your latest podcast, you waxed lyrical about the former Home Secretary of the UK, Petey Patel.
	Now, it's true, Petey Patel made robust comments about illegal immigration, but she oversaw the largest increase in immigration in British history while she was Home Secretary, with 1.2 million migrants being imported mostly from non-white countries, quadruple what it was before she headed the Home Office.
	Our listener was on to say she was recently pressed on these numbers in an interview, and rather than showing any kind of remorse, She smugly insisted that's what the public wanted, and they were skilled immigrants who would contribute to the economy.
	In fact, a recent report revealed that the migrants let in between 2021 and 2024 will cost UK taxpayers $323 billion over their lifetimes, which is nearly $11,000 US per UK household.
	So Preeti Patel was wrong.
	Also, while speaking at India Global Week, During her time as Home Secretary, she described the Indian diaspora as a living bridge between Britain and India.
	It's no surprise that of the 1.2 million that came in, the largest cohort was from India.
	I hope this information has dissuaded you from your previous opinion of her.
	I confess that it probably has.
	She says, Well, perhaps my impression of these two ladies was incorrect, and I very much appreciate this well-informed and well-documented listener explaining the reality to us.
	Here's a comment.
	However, hobos should not be lumped in with bums.
	Hobos had their own society, their own morals, their own ethics.
	One of the more memorable rules was Everywhere you go, leave it cleaner than you found it.
	Now, I did not realize that that was a rule of the hobos.
	It was practical to live a minimalist life in America by just picking up day labor jobs.
	In fact, I'm sure you remember the song, King of the Road.
	Well, I sure remember that song, Mr. Curzzy, but I never thought of it as somebody who was a hobo, but perhaps if I listened carefully to the lyrics, it would all come clear.
	Now, the listener goes on to say, of course, the social cohesion in modern society, or lack thereof, makes that way of life impossible today.
	He goes on to say, there are people in modern society who are homeless by choice and doing what is now called slow travel.
	Now, that's a new term for me.
	Doing this podcast is very educational.
	They travel from place to place, spending weeks to months in each location around the world.
	You can do this on Social Security Income, especially if you are a couple.
	I follow several of these couples on YouTube.
	Now, I wouldn't think of them as hobos.
	I imagine they have tents or they have RVs or something.
	But this is a good explanation of the fact that hobos, winos, derelicts, drifters, they are various different categories of people who may not have homes as we think of them.
	And I appreciate this precision on just who hobos were.
	Here's another comment.
	You noted that conservatives were upset when Hispanic children in a public school were all taken for a special celebration while all the other children were sent to study hall.
	You said, why complain that Spanish should be allowed to have segregated celebrations of holiday that you said no one has heard of, so long as whites could celebrate Columbus Day and Thanksgiving the way they wanted to celebrate them.
	Well...
	El Día de los Reyes Magos isn't as exotic as you think.
	In fact, it's just Spanish for the Feast of the Epiphany.
	That is the end of Christmastide, as I know, as I was a little Catholic boy growing up in the 1970s.
	Well, it's true.
	Epiphany sounds rather less exotic than El Día de los Reyes Magos.
	But, you know, for us Protestants, Mr. Kersey, even Epiphany and Christmastide sound mildly exotic.
	But thank you very much for this clarification.
	I mean, were you aware, did your family celebrate Epiphany when you were growing up?
	No, I've only recently even gone to a number of Catholic services, so it's very different than a Protestant service.
	It's almost a completely different language.
	Well, it's a different thing, and sometimes it's in fact in Latin.
	But yes, I was a grown man when I first learned about Epiphany.
	So there you go, different strokes for different groups.
	Different folks, even if we all are all part of the great white family.
	Here is another comment.
	In the most recent podcast, Mr. Taylor was unsuccessfully searching his memory.
	Yes, I often do that.
	For the name of the Google employee who was fired in 2017 for a memo on why there are not many women in tech jobs.
	His name is James Damore.
	I'm not quite sure how it's pronounced.
	Neither you nor I can think of it.
	James Damore.
	And his memo is available at firedfortruth.com.
	You know, I remember reading it at the time, and some people consider it a real classic of its kind.
	It is a really careful analysis of the situation, very fair-minded, and explains why, in his view, there are not that many women who do coding.
	It reminds me very much of...
	Summers, the president of Harvard, explaining why there weren't that many women in the highest levels of science.
	That's right, Lawrence Summers.
	He got a lot of trouble for that.
	Well, he eventually was fired as president of Harvard.
	But, yes, Lawrence Summers, you know, that document is still on the Harvard homepage, the Harvard website.
	And if you look at it, again, it is a very carefully argued, impressive piece of argumentation.
	We got so many of these good comments.
	And this is from someone who calls herself white girl in Canada.
	I am a listener from a country in rapid decline.
	I was looking for a summary article in the policies of our new grifter of a prime minister.
	And Google offered up this pigeon gem from the BBC under the top news stories.
	And let me quote from it.
	As I day warned for months, America want our land and resources.
	Never!
	This no be threat.
	Trump, they try, break so America's feet get us, but that no go happen.
	Carney talk for him address.
	That is what BBC served up to me in Canada.
	I suppose the target audience is all of those pigeon speakers already here.
	Terrible drivers who soak up tax-free income, take food bank food when they make plenty of money, clog up our healthcare system, harass women, and push poorer Canadians out of their jobs.
	I think reading pigeon is the closest racially aware whites can get to understanding low IQ blacks.
	Read it aloud and weep.
	Well, I read it aloud, Mr. Kersey, but I didn't hear you weeping.
	Our white lady in Canada goes on to say, two years ago, Canadian flags in the media here were considered evil, criminal symbols of vile trucker hate.
	Now, thanks to Trump, the same flag is a virtuous symbol of good patriotism, proudly and freely worn by those who used to hate the flag the most.
	I love you, America, but I don't want to merge.
	I want to be allies, yes, but as nations, we need to save ourselves.
	Now, she goes on to write, it's worse than you think here.
	The federal government just released a report in January expecting Canadians and newcomers to be hunting for wild rabbits and other game in urban parks for subsistence as our economy declines into 2040.
	Can you imagine a report in the United States saying, hey, fellas, Americans, you're going to be hunting rabbits in Central Park because you're going to be so hungry by 2040?
	Can you imagine such a thing?
	Well, I can imagine Somalians eating dogs and cats.
	Well, this is ordinary white Americans.
	Now, I didn't believe this.
	I didn't believe this.
	I thought, wait, the government's not predicting that.
	But she sent a link.
	So I looked up this official Canadian report.
	And here are sample predictions for 2040.
	And I'll read just a few.
	Downward social mobility might become the norm.
	Hardly anyone believes he can build a better life for himself or his children through his own efforts.
	Owning a home is not a realistic goal for many.
	Most people rely on gig work and side hustles to meet basic needs.
	More people struggle to afford rent, bills or groceries.
	Forms of person-to-person exchange of goods and services could become even more popular, reducing tax revenues.
	And this is what she was talking about.
	People start to hunt, fish, and forage on public lands and waterways without reference to regulations.
	Some may blame the state.
	Others may blame immigrants.
	This could generate serious social or political conflict.
	Now, ever the optimists, the Canadian bureaucrats who drew this up say there are possible good results.
	People could rethink what prosperity means or fulfillment.
	They may reject conspicuous consultations.
	Well, there you go.
	Now, to me, it is astonishing that a government report could be so incredibly pessimistic.
	I mean, there's a certain kind of admirable candor about that.
	If the federal government really thinks this is what's going to happen, we're going to start hunting rabbits in Central Park or the equivalent in Canada.
	Wow, it's extraordinary that you put something like this together.
	I cannot imagine the U.S. government putting something this dire into print and publicizing it, but there you go.
	Now, maybe it's just a very subtle way to try to persuade immigrants to go elsewhere.
	It's an incredible denunciation of diversity being our greatest strength, if that's what it creates, Mr. Taylor.
	Well, if that's what it creates, if that's what it creates.
	Some people might blame immigrants, but obviously, well, who knows?
	Now, this was really an interesting set of comments, and we'd love to hear from you, ladies and gentlemen.
	And we especially love to hear from people who have different perspectives or who correct us when you get things wrong.
	What I said about Suella Braverman, I was talking about Peter Patel, but I always was a big fan of Suella Braverman, too.
	These Home Secretaries who were of Indian origin, who, as our person who corrected me says, they talked big, but they functioned little.
	Now, the way to reach us, there are two ways.
	You can get your messages directly to me at amren.com.
	That's the American Renaissance webpage, A-M-R-E-N.com, at the Contact Us page.
	Or you can get to Mr. Kersey equally directly.
	Yeah, becausewelivehereatproton.me.
	Once again, that email address is becausewelivehereatproton.me.
	You can also find me at Twitter, at X, at B. W-L-H underscore.
	Or you can find Mr. Taylor at...
	I am at Real Jar Taylor at Twitter.
	So, let's see.
	Now, I know Mr. Kersey, you and Mr. Hood in your podcast have spoken a great deal about Shiloh Hendricks.
	And I have spoken less, but I dare say I will unburden myself on some of my views about this.
	Of course, she is the white lady who lives in Minneapolis, is it not?
	And she's a single...
	Rochester, Minnesota, sir.
	Oh, okay.
	Rochester.
	And she was in a playground.
	A little black boy, it turns out to have been five, was going through her stuff.
	And she called him the N-word, and then the sky fell upon her, and because it was recorded, and a Somali was there and said, well, let's see what the internet says about what you're doing, you heatmonger you.
	And the sky did fall in the sense that, yes, she was doxed.
	And she has gotten death threat after death threat.
	She's had to withdraw her child from public school.
	She apparently, where she worked out, this too has been a real problem for her.
	But she's got a gift send go going.
	And it has now gotten more than $700,000.
	Was it $720,000 now?
	Roughly.
	Yes, sir.
	Now, yes.
	Now, I do not use the N-word, but then I don't use profanity or any kind of crude language.
	Certainly not if I can help it.
	Most of the time, I can help and I don't use that.
	And I don't recommend people doing that.
	But the idea that for this single word, which black people use all the time with complete impunity, the idea that blacks are trying to ruin her life on account of that, I stand with Shiloh Hendricks, N-word or no N-word.
	And I am delighted that she's gotten this kind of support.
	And we're also supposed to be absolutely horrified that this five-year-old boy might have heard that word.
	Well, my guess is that boy probably hears it five times a day from people who are black.
	And the fact that it comes from a white person that is not going to traumatize him, I don't care.
	I'm absolutely delighted by her attitude.
	She apparently did something else.
	I don't do myself.
	She made a single-fingered gesture to this Somali who was recording her and walked off.
	Well, again.
	Single-finger gesture, or no, or no, I stand with Shiloh Hendricks, and I am delighted that she's getting this kind of report.
	We are fed up of being pushed around and told that the sky will fall if we use some two-syllable word that is ever and always in the mouths of blacks.
	But we, as white people, are absolutely verboten.
	No thanks.
	So that's all I've got to say.
	This is more about Shiloh Hendricks.
	We will find out more about her in the future.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, I think you have a story about a different kind of middle finger.
	This time it is caught in our direction and it's the form of sculpture.
	Sculptures, we're going to find out.
	Mr. Taylor, this has been one of the big stories on X on Twitter today because there was an unveiling of a 12-foot tall...
	It's a sculpture of a black woman in Times Square, and it's caused quite the sensation.
	It's called Grounded in the Stars, and its artist is a London-based figurative artist named Thomas J. Price.
	I think you'd describe him as a light-skinned black guy.
	And it's a subtle nod to Michelangelo's David, and it's supposed to inspire a deeper reflection around the human condition.
	It's a sculpture of a black woman.
	Obviously a black woman.
	She's got her hands on her hips.
	She's somewhat turgid, a little corpulent, a little lack of time in the gym, more carbs than protein.
	And, you know, she's sort of staring ominously at the person who's looking at her.
	Have you seen the statue, Mr. Taylor?
	I have not.
	Well, this sounds like I don't have to see the statue.
	Mm-hmm.
	Like I said, it's based on a fictional character and it's aimed to encapsulate the observations, images, and open call of New York, Los Angeles, and London.
	Exactly.
	Whatever that means.
	According to the official website of Times Square, it stands as an iconic symbol and site of convergence, uniting people from all walks of life, individual stories, and experiences intersecting on a global platform.
	Oh, good grief.
	Who's writing this?
	Is this the sculptor himself, or is this some sort of goofy journalist?
	That's public relations for the official website of Times Square.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Like I said, it's a young black woman.
	It's just one of Price's works for onlurkers to observe.
	As they pass through this iconic area.
	I've been to Times Square many times.
	I don't plan to go anytime soon, so I won't have the chance to lay my eyes upon this.
	But throughout May, Price's Stop Motion Animation Man series will be featured on over 90 billboards as well.
	It's a multi-channel presentation.
	Again, he's a hot commodity, as we're going to find out.
	He says this, You know, I don't think I've ever had the state of mind that he's describing.
	Could you describe that again?
	Let's hear it again.
	Let's hear it again.
	This exotic state of mind that this sculpture is going to send us into.
	He's hoping it's going to instigate meaningful connections and bind intimate emotional states that allow for deeper reflection around the human condition and greater cultural diversity.
	Nope, I've never had that experience.
	Yeah, and so this statue comes to us courtesy, it's supported by Jacques and Natasha Gilman Foundation, Morgan Stanley, the New York State Council on the Arts, and public funds from the NYC Department of Cultural Affairs.
	Our friends over at OutKick, I've long extolled the virtues of OutKick.com.
	That's Clay Travis's operation.
	They always jump on these stories and they go deeper into the racial angle because, again, this is something that's getting a lot of traction on Twitter.
	And we learned that there's more nuggets of information on the Times Square website.
	We learned that, quote, "It was installed at ground level on a wide, low base.
	It invites engagement with the hundreds of thousands of people who traverse the plaza each day.
	The woman featured in Grounded in the Stars cuts a stark contrast to the pedestaled permanent monument, both white, both men, Duffy Square.
	Oh, so this is a temporary thing.
	She's not going to be there permanently.
	Oh, we all thought that the Rumors of War statue in Richmond was going to be temporary, but it still stands near six years after it was placed in front of the Virginia Arts Museum, Fine Arts Museum.
	I guess by some standards, 100 years is temporary if you're thinking in pharaonic terms.
	So who is Duffy?
	You know, Duffy Square.
	Well, one of the white men is World War I hero.
	Father Francis Duffy, who became the most highly decorated cleric in the history of the U.S. Army for his efforts during combat on the Western Front in France.
	He was honored with the Distinguished Service Cross for the service to the United States, which included caring for wounded and dying men.
	Mr. Taylor, I don't think he ever got the award that the 6888 were bestowed with last week, as you talked about the all-women mail service that received what?
	The Medal of Honor.
	The Congressional Medal of Honor.
	Well, Duffy, I guess he didn't sort enough mail.
	All he did was sucker the wounded and the die.
	Correct.
	That's not as good as sorting mail.
	Yeah, the other white man is George C. Cohen, who is regarded as a Broadway hero, who is America's first show business superstar.
	NPR says Cohen should be remembered as the man who created Broadway.
	But again...
	He doesn't have that quiet gravity and grandeur that the black woman with her hands on her hips, that Price put together, has.
	But she's grounded in the stars.
	I wonder what they mean by that.
	This is another one of these mental experiences that it's trying to provoke, to which I'm afraid I'm immune.
	Well, it's more as if when we celebrate that type of sculpture, we now understand why we're grounded on Earth as opposed to...
	Visiting the stars, but that's just my opinion.
	Of course, Mr. Price, he's got a lot of statues.
	And just real quick, I'll be brief on this one.
	We learned earlier this year that influencers find for vandalizing a Thomas J. Price sculpture in Florence at the Piazza della Signoria.
	Forgive me if I mispronounce that.
	The artwork Time Unfolding by Price depicts a young black woman looking at her cell phone.
	Positioned with her back to the Palazzo Vacio and Michelangelo's David.
	I'm not making this up.
	This is a...
	Oh my goodness.
	She's got a turning her back on David, of course.
	Yes.
	Because she's far more beautiful.
	Well, she's just staring at her phone as if she's indifferent, ambivalent, and...
	Unimpressed.
	Exactly.
	And now, Mr. Taylor, by the way, I did some research and this statue originally was in London for about a year and they moved it for some reason to Florence.
	Now, the act was immediately stopped by police who fined the two individuals 160 euros each for violating city regulations.
	You know, authorities stress that such actions are not artistic performances or pranks, but acts that reinforce the need to combat racism in all its forms.
	Well, wait.
	You have to explain what they did.
	Let's see.
	What did they do?
	They strapped bananas to her, did they not?
	I don't have that in this.
	I'll take your word for it.
	They taped a banana over the cell phone, if I'm not mistaken.
	I don't have that in the paragraph that I'm looking at right now.
	But again, of course, I don't know what that means.
	I'm sure there's some goofy white artist who has a banana pill exhibit where some white guy has posted a...
	A banana peel.
	And he's probably made millions off of that.
	So I don't understand why that would be deemed so terrible.
	But that's just me.
	That's my naivete.
	That's right.
	You don't understand.
	And again, I'll just be brief here.
	Again, Price is a hot commodity because he has what was the most photographed monument in the Netherlands.
	Back in 2023...
	A statue was unveiled in Rotterdam Central Station.
	It's a statue of a black woman clenching her fist in the pockets of her sweatpants.
	And it was a big moment because only 17% of statues of specific people in the Netherlands represent women.
	Mostly Queen Wilhelmina and Anne Frank, of all people.
	Wow, great!
	Yeah, yeah.
	50% of more abstract female statues are half-naked.
	And there are only 11 statues of people of color in the entire country.
	You mean Anne Frank is half-naked?
	No, no, no, no, no. 50% of the statues of females, of those 17%.
	A lot of the...
	There's no half-naked statue of Anne Frank in the Netherlands that I'm aware of.
	But this one is entitled Moments Contained by the black individual who is this artist of renowned for some reason.
	He's of Caribbean background, by the way.
	And almost all of his artworks are sculptures of black men and women.
	Moments Contained is about the experience of being put away as the other.
	Of the marginalized position despite the strength of the individual.
	The fictional young black woman shown can be described as stoic, but to me she embodies resilience, self-confidence, and vulnerability.
	Mr. Taylor, she stands straight up, her hands casually in her pockets.
	You can see that nonchalance is pretense by the print of her knuckles in her trouser pockets.
	She tries to control herself, perhaps repressing frustration.
	She manages not to slug you as you go by.
	Very admirable.
	Well, so, again, in some of the most important cities in the Occident, or where the Occidental people once were the majority, you have these...
	Well, I've seen photographs of some of them.
	They're always at least double life-size.
	I think they're these huge things.
	14 to 18 feet tall, yes, sir.
	And the one in Times Square is probably the funniest because, again, it's an obese black woman with her hands on her hips as if she's saying, mm-hmm.
	It's as if she was just told by the Olive Garden hostess.
	I'm sorry, your party of 18 can't be seated because a number of servers were like, hey, if you put them in our section, I'm quitting.
	So, anyways.
	Oh, your imagination knows no bounds.
	I think that is the, I can't remember how he described it, this moment of sensory ecstasy that we're supposed to get from viewing that statue.
	I think you got it.
	Well, like I said, I have no intention of ever seeing it.
	I've seen the Rumors of War statue many times.
	I saw it with you, actually, one time back in June of 2020.
	Kehinde Wiley, Kehinde Wiley, another great genius.
	You said it, not me.
	Let's move on, then.
	Judges hard at work.
	I was just struck by the name of the judge involved.
	This was a U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington appointed by Joe Biden two years ago.
	He says Trump must admit thousands of refugees who have been approved, who had been approved for a resettlement in the U.S. in the previous administration.
	Of course, I think it was his very day in office he signed an executive order saying no more refugees, including those that were already in the pipeline, still overseas, that had not yet set foot in the United States.
	Well, this judge, and I will vouchsafe his name later, he says that the funding must be restored and the operational support to the nonprofit partners who would otherwise have processed, admitted, and provided resumption services for them.
	Well, yes, this is Judge Jamal Whitehead.
	I just love it.
	These are strange new times for America when Judge Jamal gets to interpret the Constitution and explain what the U.S. president may or may not do.
	These are indeed strange times.
	Now, meanwhile, on the whole immigration front.
	ICE has confirmed that agents arrested somebody by the name of Tiago Lucas in Bourne, Massachusetts, after learning that he'd been living at a home daycare center.
	It was operated by Franciana Nunes.
	Now, where she is from, we don't know, but that sounds sort of Brazilian to me, too.
	Now, this fellow Tiago is allegedly the father of Nunes' two children, but...
	He fled from Brazil to escape a nine-year sentence for raping a 13-year-old girl.
	Nine years seems like a little short for raping a 13-year-old, but Nunes, the woman who was harboring him...
	Had been a licensed home daycare provider for three years until her license expired in March, and I guess she carried on without the license.
	Who cares about that anyway?
	In any case, the fact that the rapist of a 13-year-old has been caught in Bourne, Massachusetts has stimulated Worcester County Sheriff Lou Evangelides to this comment.
	A Brazilian convicted for rape of a 13-year-old came to Massachusetts and not only disappeared into the fabric of the state, but actually was living in a home that was a daycare center.
	That's terrifying.
	I sure agree.
	Now, here's another little story about immigration in America.
	Eleven teenage members of Tren de Aragua, that notorious Venezuelan gang, attacked two New York City police officers Friday night in this self-same Times Square.
	The fact that this lady had her hands on her hips, we can imagine her saying, don't do that.
	But I guess that has no effect.
	Five of them, five of them, all illegal aliens from Venezuela have been arrested.
	These are the ones who attacked 11. The officers tried to break up what appeared to be a Wolfpack-style robbery.
	But instead, this was an ambush.
	They did this with the intent of drawing the attention of the police, and they attacked the police with scooters and threw other things at them using makeshift weapons.
	It was all planned and deliberate with the idea of harassing and attacking the police.
	Police confirmed the young suspects are known to the authorities and have been linked to dozens of robberies in New York since 2022.
	However, each time they've been arrested, They have been released.
	Well, fortunately, this came to the attention of one of my heroes, Bordazar Tom Homan.
	He said, this is just another example of sanctuary cities not cooperating with ICE.
	And look what happened.
	And if you're brazen enough to attack an armed law enforcement officer, you are much more dangerous to an unarmed civilian.
	So, this is amazing to me.
	The police know about these people.
	And they are illegal immigrants, but they arrest them.
	And they turn them loose every time rather than turn them over to ICE.
	Now, apparently, authorities were able to track down the suspects using the city's gang database.
	They're already in the gang database.
	These illegal immigrants who ought to be bounced back to Venezuela or any point in between, as far as I'm concerned, it can still be over the water, as far as I'm concerned.
	International waters, they can be dropped off there.
	But the...
	A New York City Council is trying to abolish the gang database.
	NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch said it absolutely defies common sense that our city council is looking to abolish the gang database.
	We need our council to stop legislating against our officers and start legislating public safety.
	So, yeah, they knew all about these illegal aliens.
	They're in the gang database.
	But, you know, they just turn them loose on the street.
	They probably give them, you know, a lollipop and teddy bear, and off they go to go rob more people, 12 years old.
	Mr. Taylor, quick thought here.
	We have spoken many times on this podcast in previous episodes about cities across the nation that have gang databases that had to dismantle them because of the lack of white representation.
	Chicago, I think San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York.
	Washington, D.C., these cities all have gang databases that you could RICO immediately and basically arrest all these people.
	And they've done many actual investigations and they've utilized RICO before.
	And it wouldn't be that difficult to do.
	But, of course...
	Certain organizations, the ACLU, the ADL, the NAACP, have all said that this is just systemic inequality, implicit bias, and just another example of, you know...
	It's disparate impact.
	Exactly.
	You break the law, you join the gangs, you know, that's a bad thing.
	Gosh, that has a disparate impact on our pets.
	So that has...
	The gang database, gotta go, gotta go.
	As you say, not enough white people.
	You and I need to join a gang.
	Then we can get in the gang database.
	We are part of a gang.
	It's called the United States of America.
	And it's a pretty awesome gang.
	Our flag's on the moon.
	Ah.
	Okay.
	Now, research in Finland.
	has discovered something interesting and not very surprising.
	I must say, Oskari Latinen.
	He's a senior researcher at the INVEST Research Flagship Center at the University of Turku in Finland.
	He identified a number of truisms that woke people believe.
	And here are some of them.
	If white people have, on average, a higher level of income than black people, it's because...
	That's one.
	Then, another one is, And here's the last one.
	A member of a privileged group must never adopt features or cultural elements of a less privileged group.
	Appropriation.
	You know, you're not allowed to eat tacos.
	They're allowed to wear shoes, but you're not allowed to eat tacos.
	Now, what they say here is what this gentleman, Oscari Latina, found is that gender divide was probably most surprising to me.
	Three out of five women, these are Finnish ladies talking about, they view woke ideas positively, but only one out of seven men do.
	That's a pretty stark divide.
	Five women, three out of five, think that all of this nonsense that I've told you is pretty much okay.
	Only one out of seven men.
	Now, he says this was especially true.
	The Wokies were especially common in fields such as social sciences, education and humanities.
	Education, that's the most worrisome one, you know.
	They're the ones that are going to be teaching the children.
	By contrast.
	Those few women who work in STEM were less likely, considerably less likely, to be sold on all of this wokey-wokey stuff.
	Now, they also found, and this is not surprising either, researchers found a high prevalence of anxiety and depression in people who believe in statements such as, if white people have, on average, a higher income than black people, it's because of racism.
	If you believe that, you're more likely to go cuckoo.
	And more broadly, they found that those who identified as left-wing were most likely to report lower mental well-being.
	This is very sad.
	Now, the professor went on to warn against extrapolating his findings to international audiences, not just yet.
	He says the scale would need to be validated in North American samples in order to know just how these attitudes manifest in North America.
	I'm guessing, and I suspect you agree, that many of the same holdings would be found true.
	What do you reckon?
	Women are more likely to believe this goofy stuff and the more you believe them, the more cuckoo and unhappy and psychotic you are.
	Well, that's why you should believe Shiloh.
	That's right.
	Shiloh sounds like a very healthy-minded lady.
	Now, here's another interesting thing about men.
	In November, now, this is from the Washington Post.
	And when they say young men, they're apparently talking about young men of all races.
	Men aged 18 to 29 voted for Trump by a 14-point margin.
	56% to 42%.
	Did you know it was that great?
	That includes all races.
	And it was the first time a GOP presidential candidate had gotten an outright majority in that group since George H.W. Bush, Gentleman George Sr., won...
	Wow.
	Yes, wow is right.
	Not since 1888 has a GOP presidential candidate won the majority of 18 to 29-year-old men, and Donald H., second time around, won it.
	By a 14-point margin.
	And real quick, if I could just, 1988, not 18. You said 1888.
	1988.
	Oh, I beg your pardon.
	No, no, no.
	It's okay.
	Yes, yes.
	1988.
	No, that would be a while back.
	1988.
	Would that be Grover Cleveland at that point?
	That could be, yes.
	For most of his political career, Trump has been more disliked than liked by the general public, and the gender gap has been especially great among the young.
	And it is true that even men, 18 to 29, their love of Donald Trump is decreasing, but unlike the rest of the population, they still have a seven-point favorable rating of Donald Trump.
	A lot of groups have gone negative on poor Donald.
	I think the tariffs have something to do with that.
	But I thought that was really a remarkable statistic.
	I wish that they had broken out these 18 to 20-year-old men by race, because if it was a 14-point margin favor across the board, wow, what would it have been of young whites?
	25-point margin?
	30-point margin?
	In any case.
	There you go.
	Remarkable.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, I understand that a number of DOT grants which have been criticized as being a little on the woke side have been withdrawn, and you seem to be quoting a source that says, as a result, America's wheels will grind to a halt.
	This is a left-wing site that monitors.
	Expenditures for the Department of Transportation, if you recall back in 2021, the former mayor of South Bend, Pete Buttigieg, declared war on racist roads to the tune of $3 billion.
	Well, we now learn that our new Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, last Friday, he announced that 54 million in cuts to seven elite universities that were researching how to make our sprawling transportation system more equitable.
	People, uh, undertaking a radical DEI and green agenda were being excised, being cut.
	Um, the guy who wrote this piece was pretty upset, but, uh, I just want to quote, uh, real quick from the tweet that secretary Duffy put out.
	He said that Doge is glad to stop funding studies to determine if roads are racist.
	Yes, this was an actual thing that was happening.
	Again, it was astonishing to read about how the...
	The creation of bridges in Syracuse and Buffalo and Rochester and St. Louis were somehow racist and they kept buses from taking predominantly black people to beaches and nicer parts of town.
	It's just one of those very strange things that happened after George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose.
	Just real quick, I'll read some of the highlights.
	The Center for Social and Economic Mobility for People and Communities Through Transportation at City College lost $9 million for Equitable Transportation for Disadvantaged Workforce Research.
	Okay.
	Sorry to say that.
	Connected Communities for Smart Mobility Toward Accessible and Resilient Transportation for Equitably Reducing Congestion That was at New York University.
	They lost $6 million for research on e-bikes to low-income travelers in transit deserts.
	There's a new one that I had never heard before, a transit desert.
	Have you ever been in a major city where you just see these e-bikes or scooters that are just littered about?
	They're all over D.C. Atlanta, where I've seen them, where people will just, you know, scan a card or have their little Apple Pay thing and ride them around.
	Those things seemed to come and go.
	D.C. had them for a while, and then I believe they found so many of them wrecked and thrown into the Potomac.
	They stopped after a while.
	But then they seemed to have come back.
	If I'm not mistaken, there was a program that just ended up having, they all got stolen.
	Maybe they're harder to steal or something.
	But yeah, I was just in D.C. last weekend, and I saw them.
	I saw a few people actually riding them.
	Most of them were just sort of sitting there.
	But have you ever patronized one of those?
	Hopped on and take it off?
	I've not.
	I've never had the desire to.
	So I can't say that I have.
	But I've seen them all the time.
	And I always wonder, you know, shouldn't there be a designated area where you return them instead of just dropping them off anywhere?
	I mean, that's the weird thing about the whole program is you can find them just somebody who's like, I'm done writing this.
	And they just...
	Discard of it and walk away, and it's just laying on the ground.
	It seems, well, there are probably supposed to be rules.
	Now, whether or not they are followed, that probably depends on the population involved.
	Correct.
	Well, two more.
	Cuts real quick for you.
	The Center for Transit-Oriented Communities at the University of New Orleans has lost $6 million for equitable transit-oriented communities and how neighborhood stabilization efforts support environmental justice research.
	We also learned that Johns Hopkins University, the Center for Smart Transportation, lost $6 million for research on hyper-local pollution exposure inequalities in New York City.
	Promoting electric vehicle usage for low-income gig workers, long-distance ride sharing, and gentrification.
	Now, the center's grant report probably attracted Duffy's attention, according to this writer, for several reasons.
	Quote, air pollution is disproportionately affecting racial minorities and economically disadvantaged populations.
	So according to this gentleman who wrote this piece, we'll call him a gentleman, air pollution somehow only affects minority communities and white people have magically found a way to waft the air to disadvantaged populations.
	That's right.
	It's incredible.
	That's right.
	The more white privilege.
	So again, the only thing that I found really funny about this is the fact that we were wasting money researching racist bridges.
	So I actually think I asked you as a joke, you know, have the bridges stop being racist.
	You know, it's funny, the best racial joke I ever heard, I was on I-85 coming out of Atlanta.
	So I guess, anyways, highways can't be racist anymore, right?
	Well, they better not be.
	Of course, the Edmund Pettus Bridge still stands.
	But whether or not that's considered racist, I don't know.
	They should have torn it down, right?
	Well, they should have renamed it.
	No, no, no.
	They should have renamed it the John Lewis Bridge.
	Of course, you're referring to the bridge in Selma where every year there's a pilgrimage for a few moments where people celebrate the March to Montgomery, the Bloody March, Bloody Sunday.
	Of course, you went there a few years ago and you got to see what Selma looks like the other 364 days and quite the adventure.
	Yes, I did a video about that.
	It's really a very sad and sorry commentary on how little blacks themselves care for what they want us to bow down and think of as the high holy places of the civil rights movement.
	We're supposed to just clutch our hearts, shed bitter tears to the thought of Selma, and they can't be bothered to keep from turning into just the most run-down dump you ever saw.
	But let's see.
	Matt Taibbi.
	Matt Taibbi, journalist.
	He was with, is he still with Rolling Stone?
	No, I believe he is a...
	Who are you with now?
	Is he independent?
	I believe he's independent because he was doing work when Elon Musk took over.
	He was doing some really good research.
	He was doing great stuff.
	Well, he has written a remarkable piece about NPR.
	I mean, I always used to think of him as kind of a, you know, just a slightly nonconformist mainstream journalist, but he is really out of...
	Here are some sentences from his piece on National Public Radio.
	He says, Trump cuts demolish agency focused on toxic chemicals.
	Asian American voters back Trump in Nevada.
	Here's how they feel about him now.
	The U.S. set the global order after World War II.
	Trump has other plans.
	Now this, you know, this is NPR right down the line.
	And on and on and on, says Matt.
	Its editors either don't realize they've built an abjectly partisan political operation, or more likely they've been doing this so long, they believe ideological uniformity is the truth.
	I think it's the latter.
	They don't realize that they're partisan hacks.
	They think that they are just marinated in the truth.
	Taivi goes on.
	There remain dozens of federally funded entities that exist for one of two reasons.
	To promote groupthink or stamp out the absence of it.
	NPR is at the top of the list.
	Its problem isn't that it's anti-Trump or that it retains its weird addiction to stories like...
	Bringing diversity to Maine's nearly all-white lobster fleet.
	It's a real problem.
	Now, we're going to have a similar story in just a moment if we have enough time.
	And then another story called fatphobia, and it's racist past and present.
	And although that stuff's nuts, it's because it's the most visible symbol of a thought-suppressing bureaucracy, says Matt Taibbi.
	The $535 million the Corporation for Public Broadcasting doles out to member stations isn't that much in the larger scheme of things.
	So even if one stipulates it's too small to need squashing, NPR has come to represent that far larger system of subsidized conformity.
	I like that, this enormous system of subsidized conformity, which is exactly what it is.
	New York Times, Washington Post, MSNBC, the big networks, Hollywood, subsidized conformity.
	Any ideological fixation we spent millions promoting through the State Department or Department of Commerce or National Science Foundation is virtually granted to have been the subject of one or more long segments.
	In other words, if a federal agency promotes awareness about health equity or, as you were talking about, transportation equity.
	Or, air quality equity.
	You'll be sure to find health equity experts quoted by NPR in stories like, New Zealand's indigenous people are furious over plans to snuff out anti-smoking laws.
	Or, who renames monkeypox as mpox, citing racist stigma.
	Or, here's one.
	Heat makes health inequity worse because marginalized communities often have fewer trees.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, you will not have forgotten heat islands.
	And remember shade equity?
	Oh, I remember it all too well.
	Now we have to throw in, what was the other word we just learned about?
	Transportation deserts?
	I mean, it's unreal.
	Yeah, it's transportation deserts.
	Well, you know, the fact is, where white people live out in the suburbs, those are public transportation deserts.
	You know, you can't get a bus.
	You can't get a bus from a place I used to live in in Oakton to anywhere.
	But, you know, no, no, no.
	Transportation deserts.
	So, yes, health equity because marginalized communities often have fewer trees.
	They got marginalized and so did the trees.
	And Taipi goes on to say that people running NPR, like CEO Kathleen Mayer, M-A-H-E-R, and COO Ryan Merkley, sound and act like...
	Political officers rather than journalists.
	Absolutely true.
	Well, good for Matt.
	You know, his dad was a really good journalist.
	This was before my time, but I was recommended a book caught by his dad, Mike Taibbi, called Unholy Alliances, Working the Tawana Brawley Story.
	Have you ever read that book?
	No, I never have.
	Well, good.
	So he comes from a distinguished line of people who are not always bamboozied.
	He is a good journalist because that's his role.
	He's not partisan.
	He just reports the facts and lets you decide based on the information that's presented.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, we were all worried about the oyster fleet.
	No, I'm sorry, it was the lobster fleet in Maine being hideously all white.
	Well, apparently there's another profession that's just hideously all white, and that's got to be correct.
	If you would do some quick math for me, what is 4 divided by 300?
	And I'll start reading the story.
	That would be one third of 4%.
	That would be about 1.4%.
	So hold that number in your mind, ladies and gentlemen, because we've just learned.
	Now, this is an older story by a few months, but we miss these sometimes.
	And I've quit drinking, but I found this story really interesting.
	Black Master Sommelier tries to diversify the wine industry.
	Vincent Morrow finds wine a lifestyle.
	The Michelin-recognized Master Sommelier didn't like the first wine he tasted.
	On the first taste, I spit it out and dumped it.
	Now, little did he know that he would go on to graduate with a wine business degree from Sonoma State University, work in tasting rooms, restaurants, and even vineyards harvesting.
	The best sommeliers understand how to do every job, he said.
	Morrow was named 2022 Michelin Guide California Sommelier of the Year and 2022 Vine Pears Next Wave Sommelier of the Year.
	Gets a lot of credit.
	Currently works as the beverage director at Press of Michelin Star Restaurant in St. Helena and is doing what he can to make it an accessible career for people like him.
	What does that mean, people like him?
	Well, there are four tiers of sommelier certification.
	The highest is Master Sommelier.
	There are less than 300 Master Sommeliers in the world and, Mr. Taylor, only four of them are black.
	So what was that number that I asked you to do?
	Well, as I say, it's one third of four.
	And I would guess that would be 1.39, 1.333.
	Yes.
	1.333 percent.
	Well, as we've long talked about, any vocation or avocation that has a dearth of black participation is somehow illegitimate.
	And so, yes, the wine tasting industry has a problem.
	Sommeliers have a problem because there's not enough black representation.
	It's a small number for me, he said.
	I want to see it grow in the future.
	He said he is part of the Diversity Committee for the Court of Master Sommeliers.
	That's the organization that facilitates certification.
	"When you see someone that looks like you achieved something like that, I would hope that would be inspiring for others." In other words, the people who lay their hands on and bless master sommeliers, they have got a diversity committee?
	They do have a diversity committee because they have a whiteness problem.
	We don't have a breakdown of the representation for Asians or Hispanics.
	But we know there are only four out of roughly 300 in the world.
	And it takes a substantial amount of money and time to become a master sommelier.
	You have to prepare for a three-part test, which includes blind tasting, mock table service, and a rigorous oral exam.
	He said the committee began partnering with different hospitality programs and colleges and universities targeting young, underrepresented people who might not know a career in the wine industry exists.
	I can only imagine there are, you know, The fact is, Mr. Kersey, I think we may be running out of time.
	We've got a few minutes.
	We've got three minutes.
	All right.
	Very good.
	I'll take your word for it.
	Can you imagine midnight basketball once was a way to try and keep inner-city youths from shooting one another?
	Now we have a sommelier go into Philadelphia or Baltimore or Minneapolis or Memphis and say, hey, you know?
	You don't need to join a gang.
	Come over here and try this wine.
	Tell me what you think.
	Is this a Merlot?
	Is this a cab?
	You can be a professional wine sniffer rather than a gangbanger.
	He believes early exposure is key to changing the demographic of wine experts.
	Hey, my goal is for this to become more common in an academic setting where people feel like they can go for it.
	But to get where you're going, you can't forget where you've come from.
	Our industry was really built on the back of immigrants, Mauro commented.
	What?
	Immigrants?
	Immigrants?
	Well, probably Frenchmen.
	Wouldn't you guess?
	Is that familier business?
	I mean, that's really a French and European specialty.
	Immigrants?
	There's a good movie called Bottle Rocket, which talks about how Sonoma became world famous.
	And in that movie, they do have some, you know...
	Latinos, Hispanics, but it's largely just white people who had money and they bought vineyards and then they tried to create fantastic Chardonnay or the perfect wine.
	And again, you know...
	If you spin the bottle enough, you'll end up with some blacks and Hispanics, I guess.
	This is just, again, one of those silly stories.
	I mean, we've talked about how bird watching is too white.
	So many vocations, avocations just get attacked, and then you read something like this, and it tries to discredit the whole business.
	Cleaning out sewers is overwhelmingly quite professional, but I don't see blacks breaking down the barriers to get into that.
	But, Mr. Kersey, I believe this time we really are running out of time.
	We have a hard stop.
	We do.
	And so I have to interrupt you.
	I beg your pardon, but I must say to our listeners, it is a joy, a delight, a pleasure, and an honor to spend this time with you.
	And we look forward to doing the same thing next week.

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