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Oct. 23, 2024 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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The Haitian Inundation

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey are pleased that Americans are angry about foreigners being dumped on their towns. The hosts also discuss Tren de Aragua, camps for illegals, and how Dominica fights the Haitian inundation. Thumbnail credit: © Carl Juste/Miami Herald via ZUMA Press Wire

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	Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
	I'm your host, Jared Taylor.
	And with me is my indispensable co-host, none other than Paul Kersey.
	Today is October 23rd, Anno Domini 2024.
	And Mr.
	Kersey, as usual, we're going to start with comments from listeners who had tuned in last week and had things to say.
	This is a rather vehement comment In response to the listener, who sent in a comment about the usefulness of university studies, white people struggling in school should not drop out, he says.
	That was a view of a previous commenter who said, if you're not doing well, you know, just cut your losses, clear out.
	This guy says no.
	This other listener says completing your studies not only prevents you from wasting what time and money you've already invested, And provide you with a degree, which is good for any resume.
	It also develops your ability to finish something you start, an invaluable meta skill.
	There's a big difference between falling into the sunk cost fallacy, that is to say, the idea that you're throwing good money after bad, and finishing something you started.
	There are countless resources from productivity gurus For example, Cal Newport, Scott Young, etc.
	I must say I've never heard of either of them, who offer strategies for getting through difficult times when studying.
	He concludes that a remarkable white woman I know wanted to drop out of nursing school.
	She stuck it up at the behest of her father and was grateful when she later had her qualification to fall back on.
	Embrace the difficulty, white man, says our listener.
	I suppose in some cases that's true.
	I guess I'm a little wobbly on this subject.
	If you really are struggling and you've decided that college is not for you, I don't know.
	Maybe it is sensible to drop out and go to trade school.
	On the other hand, sticking to what you've started, that's also good advice.
	Any opinion yourself, Mr.
	Kersey?
	I think if you're getting a STEM degree, I think if you are lucky enough to have gotten a scholarship offer, you should utilize that.
	And whatever the requirements are to maintain that scholarship, do whatever you can to keep that scholarship.
	Study hard and ensure that when you leave college, you have had your entire tuition paid for, especially if you're lucky enough to be a college athlete.
	The most important thing you can do is stay on campus as long as possible, take summer classes, and then get to a position where you have graduated early so you can get into an MBA program or a master's program.
	I think you should get your degrees.
	I think that the connections you can make in college can pay dividends later in life in terms of alumni relations and stuff.
	So that is one of the most important aspects of a college experience is making connections with alumni that will benefit you in your career.
	Of course, as you know, the quality of the degree, the nature of the degree, makes a great deal of difference, too.
	If you really do have a solid science degree, it's better than having something in communications, for example.
	But for a lot of employers, the mere fact of your having slogged through four years of undergraduate training seems to mean a lot.
	They think just the fact of having to agree no matter what makes a difference.
	In any case, I guess it all boils down to individual circumstances, but I can understand the views of both of our commenters.
	Here is our next comment.
	The following Newsweek opinion article...
	I beg your pardon?
	No, I didn't with that.
	I concur completely with you.
	You know, one of my neighbors growing up was a plumber who had his own business.
	And I remember when they moved out into a adjacent city in an unincorporated part of our town and he bought 100 acres of land and he paid for it in cash.
	And I was I was just blown away because he was a plumber.
	And you just, you know, you had that preconceived notion, if you will, of a plumber.
	And it's like, well, this guy built a thriving business that was based upon being honest and being on time and always putting your clients and customers first.
	So I see both sides.
	But if you're going to if you're going to be a legacy or get the opportunity to go to a military college and have everything paid for and and really get that opportunity to when you leave college, you don't have any debt.
	You take advantage of that.
	Those are specialized circumstances, but yes, if you have a chance to go through college and not have to spend a penny, well, gosh, yeah, you better leap at that opportunity, but very few people have that handed to them.
	Anyway, A commenter says, A Newsweek opinion article caught my attention.
	It discusses the shift in both liberal and progressive stances towards illegal immigration over the past few decades and how this relates to the reduced bargaining power and wages of American workers.
	The opinion column is called Progressives are Pushing for an Economy Built on Migrant Serfdom.
	That lays it on the line.
	However, what struck me the most was the following statement by the author near the end.
	By making workplaces more ethnically and linguistically heterogeneous, mass migration makes it harder to forge solidarity and mount collective action.
	Well, I'm sure it does.
	If you can't speak to your fellow workers, it's hard to unionize.
	And this guy is pointing that out.
	Our commenter says diversity is not an infinite source of unfathomable strength.
	Mass migration hurts the working class?
	Perish such thoughts.
	Newsweek used to be relentlessly liberal in every possible way, but lately they have branched out.
	They have some occasional conservative columnists who really take good positions.
	They still have a lot of liberals, but they've really tried to have a diversity, believe it or not, of opinions.
	Here is another comment.
	I wanted to turn your attention to a series of eloquently written articles from Michael Spangler.
	Just as American Renaissance has helped me as a man to understand the importance of race, Spangler's series of articles have helped me understand race realism as a Christian.
	I highly recommend reaching out to him for an interview.
	His work is at the PACTUM Institute.
	I browsed around on some of his articles.
	He's got a whole series, yes, on the biblical support for a realistic understanding of race.
	And so, for people whose worldview is based in the Bible, I think that's probably a good resource.
	All right, now...
	We are coming up to an election, and every time we come up to an election, all the people who are involved tell us that this is the most important election ever in your lifetime or ours or perhaps in the history of the world.
	But this was an interesting article about the shifting American electorate from a site called the Liberal Patriot.
	Now, you've been following the election, Mr.
	Kersey, and you may have points to make to add to this or to subtract from it.
	But this article says one of the less realized ironies of the Trump years is that Americans have become increasingly less polarized along racial lines.
	Yes, take white voters, traditionally a Republican-leaning group.
	Averages of post-election demographic data indicate that while Trump carried white voters in 2016 by 17 points, His margin with them actually declined from Romney's margin, although by just one point.
	So Romney got the white vote with a margin of 18%.
	In 2016, Trump got it by 17%.
	Four years later, Trump's advantage shrank by another four points to 13%.
	Now, I assume these figures are correct.
	I was surprised to read this, but that is what this article says.
	Meanwhile, the reverse has occurred among non-white voters who tend overwhelmingly to support Democrats.
	The parties support among blacks dropped by 9%, Hispanics by 16%, Asians by 5%.
	These all narrowed to varying degrees between 2012 and 2020.
	Hmm.
	Then he goes on to say Democrats' gain with white voters during that time was heavily based on stronger support from college-educated whites, with whom the party's margin improved by 17 points.
	That is a big difference from 2012 to 2020.
	It's not just college-educated whites boosting the Democrats.
	This cycle, as Harris appears to be gaining even more ground with them, she may also be doing better with non-college white voters than Biden did.
	Now, again, this is a little bit of a surprise to me.
	What do non-college, say blue-collar white voters, why are they going to vote for Kamala Harris more than they voted for lunchbucket Joe Biden?
	According to the latest polling from Cook Political Report, Harris is winning white college grads by 15 points, 16 points better than Biden did in 2020.
	Meanwhile, she's also only losing non-college whites by 26 points while Biden lost them by 30 points.
	Harris may be able to offshoot eroding support from non-white Americans by making gains with whites, even if they are relatively small.
	Again, that's interesting about non-college-educated white people more likely to vote for Kamala Harris than for Joe Biden.
	My guess is that would be pushed very much in that direction by women voters.
	The sex breakout is not offered in this article.
	My guess is that non-college white men are probably not going to be more attracted to Kamala Harris than they were to Joe Biden, but non-college-educated white women, they may be.
	As for Asians...
	It's funny you said something real quick to really buttress what your points were.
	So it declined by 1% in four years.
	It declined by 5% from Romney to Trump in 2020.
	What are you talking about?
	The white support?
	Which one are you talking about now?
	The white support.
	It went down 1% between 2012 and 2016.
	But 5%, a combined 5%.
	So you think about if you shift it the other way, Donald Trump probably wins the popular vote if you actually increase the white percentage by 5% as opposed to seem inclined by that much.
	And I think I'm going to go on record here and say I think we're actually going to see a shift in the opposite direction from the pattern that has emerged since Romney.
	I think he's actually going to do better with the white vote than he did in 2016 and in 2020.
	All he has to do is get to Romney levels.
	And if he's getting an increase in the minority vote as we're seeing in polls, Mr. Tavis.
	Taylor, I think this could be a shocking election in a lot of ways in regards to states.
	We will sure see.
	It seems to be that he is inching up in the polls and there are now people predicting that he will take it.
	Although all the posters, they were certainly bitten by the results when he ran against Hillary Clinton.
	So they're all hedging their bets and they're saying, oh, all within the margin of errors and nobody's taking a firm position.
	But you could be right.
	Now, here, let's see.
	Now, as far as Asians are concerned, their support for Democrats apparently remains steady.
	Barack Obama won 68% of Asians.
	And four years later, Clinton won, Hillary Clinton won 64%.
	And in 2020, Biden won 66%.
	That went 68%, 64%, 66%.
	They're bouncing along pretty well at two-thirds.
	Indian Americans, dot Indians, Who constitute the second largest immigrant group in the U.S. I wonder if that's true.
	I would have thought after Mexicans it would be Chinese, but that's what they say.
	Maybe that's the second largest Asian immigrant group.
	Who may be energized about the prospect of the first half-Indian American.
	President supported Harris at a higher rate, 69%, than any other non-black minority.
	Similarly, a battleground state poll of Asian voters from the Democratic pollster GBAO found Harris's support hitting 68% compared to just 20% for Trump.
	Well, I've never quite understood why Hispanics...
	I recall in several elections, Hispanics have voted more Republican than Asians.
	It seems very odd to me that Asians should consistently vote Democrat.
	I could imagine them creeping more generally towards the Republican ranks.
	But that's a phenomenon I've never really understood.
	Creeping towards the Republican ranks, is that a racial trope there?
	No, I'm just joking.
	What did I say that sounded like a racial trope?
	Everything can be considered a racial trope now.
	Basically, I saw an article, Mr.
	Taylor, where Trump called Kamala Harris lazy because she's not out there campaigning as much as he is.
	And the corporate journalist said, is Donald Trump engaging in racial tropes against blacks as being lazy by calling Kamala Harris lazy?
	And so any adjective you use to describe a non-white racial group automatically, axiomatically, is a racial trope.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	I've never understood what a trope is anyway, but I'm just not hip and cool.
	Now, this article goes on to say, generally, seniors are Republican leaning.
	No Democrat presidential nominee has won them since Al Gore did in 2000.
	That's interesting.
	However, given the party's advantage with younger voters, they don't necessarily need to win older voters outright, just be more competitive.
	After seniors backed Trump over Clinton by eight points in 2016, Biden cut that advantage in half, losing them by only four points.
	I think that's interesting too, assuming it's true.
	This cycle, Harris may be doing even better.
	According to Cook's polling averages, she trails Trump with seniors by only 1.4 points, which would mark a substantial improvement over Biden.
	So, yeah, that seems surprising to me.
	Trump over Clinton, senior citizens, 8 points for Trump, and now leading only by 1.4?
	Also, this article is on to say since 1980, independent voters have backed the winning presidential candidate all but once.
	Apparently, they narrowly favored John Kerry in 2004.
	So clearly, winning these voters is a crucial part of any candidate's path to victory.
	Since early August, both Carlson and Cook Poles have shown Harris with a very small advantage among independents.
	So this is an analysis that prepares you for a possible Harris victory.
	But I think we can all be preparing ourselves for either victory.
	It's very, very much too close to call.
	But I thought these numbers were quite interesting.
	And it is surprising, their initial point that we discussed, if it's true that the racial polarization of the vote is declining, more whites likely to vote for Kamala Harris, and we all know that more non-whites are likely to vote for Donald Trump, but it's working the other way too, assuming that this article is correct.
	Well now, Mr.
	Kersey, you have what struck me as a Well, there's a term you used that I do not want to steal your thunder.
	I want you to actually educate our listeners as to a term you coined yesterday when I called you to go over the strategy for this podcast today.
	What was that term you used?
	Did I call it the Haitian invasion?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	What did I call it?
	The Haitian inundation.
	Oh yes, the Haitian inundation.
	Yes, gosh.
	Yes, I believe I did use that term.
	You're generous in crediting it to me, and I'd already forgotten it.
	So if you'd used it, I would not have been offended in the slightest.
	But yes, the Haitian inundation.
	The Haitian inundation in the United States of America has been absolutely fascinating to watch with temporary protective status and of course We're
	good to go.
	In Indiana, it's basically this hallmark, beautiful middle America town, about 18,000 people, and it's seen its population swell by 30% because of the quote-unquote migrant problem that has inundated the city and just a vast swath of different racial ethnicities and groups.
	And the Logansport story tells us that thousands of migrants from Haiti and dozens of other countries have I've arrived in this isolated Indiana City of 18,000 in just a few years.
	Now, the population that I saw breakdown, Mr.
	Taylor, 62% white, 30% Hispanic.
	And that Hispanic population has grown over the past few decades because there's a Tyson plant there.
	And of course, as we all know, these Tyson plants like to have their labor costs down to a minimum.
	They like to employ illegal aliens in these factories because they, again, they drive down the labor costs.
	They do the jobs that Americans just don't want to do.
	I think we hear that over and over again.
	These are food processing jobs, meat packing jobs for those who are not familiar with Tyson.
	Correct.
	Well, now furious residents say they no longer feel safe in this once sleepy downtown and their kids are being muscled out of schools by new students who don't know English and need a lot of help.
	They placed the blame on V.P. Harris and President Biden.
	Again, I forgot that he was the president still.
	Quote, do something.
	Our community cannot withstand this many people being here.
	Candace Espinoza told The Post when asked what her message would be to the Democratic presidential candidate.
	Nancy Baker, a mother of two, was more blunt about what she would tell Harris.
	Quote, get off my property, end quote.
	I don't see how she can stand behind Biden the whole time and she keeps deflecting anytime they ask questions.
	Not entirely clear how many migrants have arrived in Logansport, but Cass County Health Department Administrator Serenity Alter told the New York Post that the surrounding area's population has surged nearly 30%.
	This would put the arriving number of quote-unquote migrants at more than 11,000 in a county that had just 38,000 people in 2020.
	Another rough estimate from Logansport Mayor Chris Martin pegs the number of arrivals from the impoverished Caribbean country of Haiti at between 2,000 and 3,000 over the last four years.
	What's clear is the number of Haitian immigrant students in the Logansport School has increased 15-fold from 14 in 2021 to 207 this year.
	He said that his 16-year-old daughter, Cheyenne, dropped out of the school, local high school, because teachers seemingly had no time for the English-speaking pupils anymore.
	more.
	There were way too many kids, and it seemed to her that since they didn't speak the language or didn't understand what was going on, they were getting more attention.
	And so she and the other kids who grew up here who were having issues or struggling in certain things weren't able to get the attention that they needed, the help they needed from the school, she said.
	As the former honor roll students' grades began to slip, she gave up on Logan's Port High School and enrolled in an online homeschool instead.
	The exasperated mother of this little girl said, quote, you can't just focus all your resources on one group of children and everybody else is falling behind.
	And you wonder why these kids are getting frustrated and dropping out of school and getting bad grades.
	She expressed her own frustration with the migrants, many of them unaccompanied minors or young men who are believed to have been drawn to the Tyson poultry plant in the town.
	It's like the teacher is too busy with them that no one gets to learn anything.
	It feels like she shared.
	So, again, this is just another expose of a small-town America, just like Springfield, just like that town in Pennsylvania, where a number of right-leaning journalists went, and they documented the situation with Haitians and how bad it is.
	Here we go again, another town, another example of the I'm not going to call them failed policies because this seems to be the explicit policy of this administration to further augment the Great Replacement.
	And any American who dares voice opposition to it is automatically slandered or libeled as a white supremacist, white racist, et cetera, et cetera.
	Well, here is yet another story.
	It is from Lachlan, Ohio.
	This is a small village near Cincinnati.
	It is struggling with an influx of Mauritanian illegal immigrants.
	Okay, Mauritania.
	What's a Mauritian?
	Go ahead.
	Mauritania is in the middle of the Sahara Desert in West Africa.
	It used to be a French colony, but it is now independent and it is a miserable, godforsaken, poverty-stricken place.
	I've actually been there in 1970.
	Believe it or not, yes.
	I was hitchhiking across the Sahara Desert and was in Mauritania.
	And boy, if you ever grew up there, you'd want to leave.
	Well, they are leaving.
	And Lachlan, Ohio is struggling with an influx of Mauritanian illegals.
	And officials at the city warn they're facing an economic shortfall, and quality of life is deteriorating.
	A Washington Post analysis found that over 15,000 people from Mauritania came to the U.S. last year, a 2,800% increase over 2022, when only 543 arrived.
	15,000 Mauritanians, just what we need, Mr.
	Kersey.
	Apartments set aside for them should house four people each.
	But authorities are finding up to 12 people in each unit.
	The building systems are not designed to handle that.
	We have instances in which people go in to take a shower and feces is running out of the drains, filling the bathtubs as it comes from a floor above.
	That is compounded probably by the cooking methods that they use, which is a heavy, grease-laden process that clogs the drain, so says a city official.
	Most of the immigrants living in Loughlin do not work.
	And if they don't work, they don't pay taxes.
	They have essentially displaced the taxpaying residents in 200 apartment units, filling them with non-taxpayers.
	The mayor says, we are losing about $150,000 a year in revenue on account of that.
	I don't know how they found our small village, he says.
	We like it.
	We think it's a great place to live.
	But the quality of life here is definitely being affected by this problem.
	It sure sounds like it is.
	And this, as you note, is happening all around the country.
	Mauritanians, Haitians, you name it, Venezuelans.
	And here's a case, another case about the Venezuelans.
	This Tren de Aragua bunch.
	The Aragua train.
	I didn't realize that according to Ray Kelly, who used to be the police chief of New York City, he says Trend Aragua has become the scourge of Times Square.
	Ray Kelly noted that for the NYPD that doesn't have enough officers to police migrant-related gang activity.
	He says the city's and the state's sanctuary laws, which limit cooperation between local authorities and federal immigration agents, often it doesn't just limit, it cuts it off completely.
	This handcuffs the police, making it hard for them to monitor what goes on in emergency shelters.
	I mean, isn't that the greatest thing?
	These people, they sashay into the country, cross the border illegally, and they get housed for free in these emergency shelters, and these become gang headquarters.
	He referred to a series of crimes committed by members of Tren de Aragua, Reported by the Post, including knife and gunpoint robberies carried out by young teenagers who are part of the gang's junior offshoot called Los Diablos de la Cuarenta y Dos, the Devils of 42.
	I wonder if they're talking about 42nd Street.
	They operate out of the Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan, among other emergency migrant hotel shelters.
	You know, the Roosevelt Hotel is this old grand hotel that's pretty much been completely taken over by these illegals.
	He said that these teen terrors can't be prosecuted as adults because New York raised the age for criminal responsibility from 16 to 18.
	So you can be a 17-year-old and you're just not responsible.
	Some of the criminals, of course, are considerably younger than age 16.
	He goes on to say, Tourists are staying away from Times Square.
	We know that the hotel rooms have been taken over by the gangs, almost half of them in the area taken over by gangs, says Kelly.
	Noting that the city has bid out, has a bid out to continue using hotels as emergency migrant shelters for up to three additional years, she says the migrant gangs are going to be around for a while.
	This is just so crazy.
	I think last week we talked about this bid that was up.
	I think the individual room rate was going to be $250 or so.
	And there's an Indian organization, or it's a hotel organization run by Indians, Dot Indians, who's happily bidding on this.
	And I can't remember what the total cost was going to be.
	Some huge billion dollars or so.
	And going to put these illegals up in hotel rooms for $250, $240 a night.
	What insanity.
	Let us hope that this sort of thing influences the vote in November.
	Well, you'd think that they would make all these illegal aliens sign up for a Priceline account so they could at least negotiate on some of these hotels, get a better deal than the American taxpayer.
	This is so absurd to hear.
	And again, it's...
	Why are we dealing with this?
	Well, Mr.
	Kersey, I believe you have a report on the views Americans have of putting illegals in militarized camps on their way out of the country.
	Yeah, Axios reports that Americans are split on the idea of putting immigrants in militarized camps.
	Policy proposed by Trump to round up and deport illegal aliens, even if it requires using military guarded encampments.
	How's America divided?
	Survey results come in as Trump is promising to carry out mass deportations using a 226-year-old law that allows the federal government to detain enemy aliens in times of war.
	50% of the Americans surveyed opposed setting up encampments for undocumented immigrants, illegal immigrants, while 47% favored the idea.
	So, hold on.
	It's 50 against and 47 in favor and only 3% undecided?
	Correct, correct.
	And this was compiled by the Public Religion Research Institute, PRRI, moving forward, in partnership with the Brookings Institution.
	You know, it's very unusual that the number of undecided should be so small about anything.
	You could do a poll on, is it okay to murder your girlfriend?
	And I think you'd have more than 3% undecided.
	But anyway, just so people have strong opinions about this, but please continue.
	Yeah, I will.
	Nearly 79% of Republicans favor putting illegal aliens in encampments, compared with 47% of independents and 22% of Democrats.
	The vast majority who trust far-right news, 91% or Fox News, 82% favor militarized encampments for illegal aliens, Compared with 44% of Americans who do not watch TV news.
	It's interesting.
	I would be part of that 44% of Americans who favor putting illegal aliens in militarized camps.
	I don't watch the news.
	Well, Mr.
	Kersey, to me, this is a bit of a bread herring of a question.
	I don't necessarily insist that they be militarized.
	I don't necessarily insist that there even be camps.
	I just want them out.
	And whatever's the best way to get them out, that's what I'm for.
	Now, do we really have to establish sort of transit spots for them?
	I should think, I don't know, if you do it efficiently, you don't have to house them anywhere.
	You just take them from wherever they are and load them onto buses or airplanes, wherever it is, and boom, off they go.
	Why camps and why militarized?
	That would be my question.
	But if that's what it takes, then yes, I'm all for it.
	Yeah, more importantly, I'm for by train, by plane, by Greyhound, by Avis, by hearse, by horse and buggy if we have to.
	If Elon Musk needs to use his boring company and drill a big hole from every major city back to Mexico, let's do it.
	Whatever facilitates the quick, peaceful and And humane transfer of illegal aliens back to their host country.
	The fact is, the fact is, haven't millions of them just walked across the border?
	Well, maybe they can walk back.
	What an idea!
	Yeah, we can nationalize Jansport and give everybody, every illegal alien, a backpack filled with You know, provisions and water and a compass and say, hey, it poured south.
	Go!
	That's where he had it.
	So anyways, again, going back to the article in question, white evangelical Protestants are 75% or more likely to favor militarized encampments, followed by 61% of white Catholics.
	Among non-white Christians, around 47% of Hispanic Protestants, 42% of black Protestants, and 33% of Hispanic Catholics are What they're saying, and we'll end with this.
	Robert P. Jones, the president and founder of PRRI, tells Axios.
	He said that the Alien Enemies Act was used just 80 years ago in World War II, and there are still people alive who remember it.
	I believe that would be in regards to the Japanese internment camps and the Italian and German internment camps?
	I'm assuming so, yes.
	During the First World War, they turned in also a lot of Germans.
	So it's not as though this hasn't been done before.
	Now, it seems to be a little bit of stretching the law to say enemy aliens in time of war.
	I mean, it's all very well to call this an invasion, but on both of those occasions, First World War, Second World War, we'd actually declared war.
	And when we don't do that anymore, we just send people off to kill hundreds of thousands of usually Muslims without declaring war.
	You know, Mr.
	So, Mr. Taylor, I think one of the defining things that's going to happen if President Trump wins is trying to determine the actual number of illegal aliens.
	We've seen estimates of 20 to 30 million.
	And this was before the Biden administration took power in 2021 and unilaterally got rid of all of the Trump border policies.
	And we've seen people say there have been now an additional 10 to 15, who knows how many illegals.
	I would not be surprised to find out that the number is north of 50 to 60 million.
	Illegal aliens in the United States of America.
	And just the, you know, it doesn't have to be truly mass deportations.
	It's selective enforcement.
	And then it's using E-Verify to actually punish employers.
	You're going to start seeing people self-deport in mass numbers.
	And this happened back in 2016, by the way.
	Yes, yes.
	Well, it's always been my view that if you make it clear that eventually we're going to come and we're going to get you and we're going to boot you.
	That people say, uh-oh, I'd rather do it under my own steam, at a time of my own choosing, rather than wait for the guys in the green uniforms to come and haul me off.
	So long as the threat, if you will, so long as the consequences are well-defined and certain...
	They will go off.
	They will go.
	They will go.
	And it would be better for them to go, as I say, at the time of their own choosing, in a manner of their own choosing, under their own steam, rather than wait for us to do it.
	They can settle their affairs, whatever they may be, and off they go.
	Self-deportation.
	They self-import it, and they can self-deport it.
	I agree 100%.
	In a lot of cases, yes, they did self-import, but they also had, as we know from a lot of fantastic research done by right of center organizations, there are NGOs that have facilitated and Funnel money to help these caravans.
	Guess what?
	Guess what?
	Go ahead.
	If they care about the health, happiness, and welfare of these people, they can help them go home.
	Why not?
	Why not?
	If it's an inevitable thing, then yes, Catholic Charities, the Hebrew Immigrant Association, whatever, I think it changed its name now, If they're really concerned about all these poor people suffering, well, they can buy them first class tickets.
	They can put them up in hotels in their homelands.
	Why the heck not?
	Well, Mr.
	Taylor, these NGOs, of course, do not care about the health and safety of Americans.
	And I think that's one of the great things that we've seen Mr.
	President Trump discuss is that If he's elected president, he will make it a death penalty if an illegal alien kills an American citizen or a member of LAO. Oh, I haven't heard that.
	Well, I think he's going to have to get legislation for that.
	That'd have to be a federal crime, and he'd need legislation for that, but I'd be all for it.
	I think we need to use the death penalty much, much, much, much, much more often.
	Just get these people off the planet.
	Yeah, and again, that goes to using RICO to go after these NGOs.
	I think that's one of the most important things in a prospective Trump administration that is...
	There has to be punishment for these organizations, these entities that allowed these caravans to come in and to see, as you said, the Haitian inundation.
	I would love it if that term started trending on Twitter, if people started using that as a hashtag, because that's what it is.
	It's not just the Haitian inundation.
	It's the third world inundation of the United States of America.
	And it can be reversed.
	Nothing is ever set in stone and is irreversible.
	You just have to have the will.
	And I think in this poll that we've seen, The historic American majority is prepared to do what's necessary to ensure that their posterity endure in a country where they're not, as we learned in the Logansport town, they're not pushed out of school and made to feel like second-class citizens in the nation of their ancestors.
	Hear, hear.
	Now, apparently Canadians are waking up.
	Nearly six in ten Canadians now agree there is too much immigration to Canada.
	This is according to the country's longest-running survey on the topic.
	It's conducted by something called the Environics Institute.
	Never heard of them, but Environics.
	It's the first time since 1998 that this view is held by a clear majority, a stark shift from the favorable opinion over the past two decades.
	There has been a 31% jump since 2022.
	That is the most rapid change over a two-year period since the survey began in 77.
	In other words, it went from, I guess, if it's now 60% who say there's too much immigration, two years ago, only two years ago, only 29% said there is too much immigration.
	That's a big change.
	What is causing this?
	Record population growth.
	It's comparable to adding all of San Diego's residents to a country with slightly more population than California in just one year.
	This has made housing shortages worse, inflated rent, strained public services, and pushed up the unemployment rate.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yes, rising agreement with the view that immigration is too high can be observed across all Canadian provinces, all generational cohorts, and key federal political party minds.
	Everybody agrees.
	The most common reasons cited by Canadians who think there's too much immigration, concerns over housing, a weak economy, overpopulation, and poor management by the government.
	Public support for immigration in Canada has been largely rooted in the idea that it boosts the country's economy.
	But that conviction has weakened.
	Now, my question for you, Mr.
	Kersey.
	Apparently, 60% as opposed to 40% think there's too much immigration.
	That includes all provinces, all age cohorts, and all political parties.
	How likely is Canada to reduce immigration?
	That is the question.
	This is something in which the voters' desires seem to be regularly and consistently flouted, no matter what country we're talking about.
	And I suspect that Canada will be no exception.
	Interestingly to me, there was not one mention here of the cultural clash or the racial clash that comes from immigration.
	It's all housing shortages and rent prices.
	Well, how about the non-French speakers or the non-English speakers who take up too much space in the schools?
	How about crime associated with certain demographics?
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Better not talk about that.
	But even on strictly economic grounds, Canadians appear to say, nada mas, no more.
	So, moving on to Kenya.
	I've got to get a glass of water.
	I'm having a little bit of throat problems.
	If you can do this story, I'll be right back.
	I shall.
	I shall carry on solo.
	Kenyan bus drivers are heading to Germany.
	I don't think they're driving their buses there.
	But, on September 12th, Stella Mokaya The Kenyan ambassador to Berlin announced that 3,000 drivers would soon be sent to work in the Federal Republic of Germany.
	3,000 Kenyan bus drivers.
	Germany, with its aging population, is facing a structural labor shortage.
	These drivers will be employed by the company that is responsible for operating the transport network in Flensburg, a town of 100,000 inhabitants on the Danish border.
	So if they're getting 3,000 drivers in a town of 100,000, just this addition of 3,000 drivers means that 3% of the population will be Kenyan.
	If it wasn't already, the two countries are planning further agreements in energy, trade, education, and transport.
	Kenyan President William Ruto says that in addition to Germany, Nairobi has signed agreements with several Arabian Peninsula states and with Canada.
	In May 2023, an agreement for healthcare jobs was signed with Canada, with President Ruto pledging to send doctors, nurses, and physiotherapists to care for Canada's aging population.
	Oh, what a kind lad President Ruto is.
	He said, Kenya's workforce is our greatest resource.
	It is well trained and hard working.
	Even as we invest in sectors that will create employment in the country, opportunities for Kenyans abroad are another way to lift up our young people.
	Now this is the first time I have ever heard of a third world country encouraging doctors, nurses, professionally trained people to bugger off and work elsewhere.
	This strikes me as quite astonishing.
	And, as a political scientist by the name of Dauti Kahura says, there could be other reasons for this.
	He says, after two years in power, William Ruto is extremely unpopular, especially among Gen Z, those born between late 1990s and early 2010s.
	Promising young people jobs abroad is a response to recent protests, he says.
	He believes that exporting young Kenyans is, quote, a good way for the head of state to keep away the group's most likely to prevent his re-election in 2027.
	So this is an electoral tactic.
	Mr.
	Kahura highlighted that the 18 to 25-year-olds represent 65% of the electorate.
	Think of that, Mr.
	Kersey.
	18 to 25-year-olds are 65% of the electorate.
	I mean, these are these super, super young populations.
	Another explanation for encouraging that young people go and work abroad can be found in currency transfers.
	According to the Central Bank of Kenya in 2023, Kenyans abroad sent 671 billion Kenyan shillings.
	That would have been around 4%.
	About 4 billion euros.
	That would be something over.
	That would be maybe four and a quarter billion dollars back to the country.
	Kenyans living in the United States contributed more than half of this.
	That means two billion dollars shipped out of the United States back to Kenya by Kenyans living here.
	Just what we need.
	Followed by those living in Canada, the UK, Germany, and Saudi Arabia.
	I had no idea there were Kenyans living in Saudi Arabia, but once they get to Saudi Arabia, they're cordoned off.
	They really are a workforce.
	They do not become part of the population.
	They don't become Saudi citizens.
	They don't vote in elections.
	They work, and then when their term is up, home they go.
	If that's the way Saudi Arabia can do it, why couldn't we, if we really even wanted them here at all?
	So this Mr.
	Kahura, who thinks that President Ruto is shipping people out because he wants to ship out his political opponents, says it's certainly a way of bringing money into Kenya, especially since the country is heavily indebted and struggling to pay off its international lenders.
	Now, you know, we've always heard from liberals that, oh my gosh, we should wring our hands at the idea of highly trained third worlders leaving their own countries to get better paid jobs in the north, in the rich north.
	We don't hear about that often these days.
	We generally hear, oh, it's good for America to get all these wonderful, wonderful non-white people.
	But I never heard of the idea of a country actually deliberately trying to send even bus drivers out of the country.
	I'm surprised that Kenya's got 3,000 bus drivers to spare.
	I wonder how they will do driving in Kenya.
	This seems like an ominous prospect to me, but I think also it's interesting observation he's trying to get rid of the political opposition by shipping it out of the country.
	I guess, you know, wasn't there some guy, I think he wrote for National Review, was it David French?
	Somebody said that instead we should be exporting bigoted white people.
	That we need to import all these wonderful third-worlders and foreigners.
	They'll be better Americans than bigoted white people.
	Does that sound familiar to you?
	That sounds like National Review's The Conservative Case for Getting Rid of Our Racism Problem.
	I think it was David French.
	In any case, opinions come in all sorts.
	Well, now, Mr.
	Kersey, you have a story about Dominicans showing the way when it comes to the Haitian inundation.
	I wish we had a little noise that would go off every time we use that phrase, Haitian inundation, because that has got to become part of the American lexicon moving forward, because the Dominican Republic understands what the Haitian inundation means.
	And this is from earlier this month, but I thought it was a very important story to juxtapose with what's happening in Logan's port with the Haitians and how Americans are being pushed out.
	The Dominicans don't have any time for this, and they're deporting up to 10,000 Haitians a week, citing an excess How dare they talk about an excess of Haitians?
	Who could ever suffer from an excess of Haitians?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Our leaders believe we need a surplus of Haitians.
	And, you know, it's the exact opposite.
	They want a deficit of Haitians.
	So this was announced earlier this month that it's going to start mass deportations of Haitians living illegally in the country.
	Up to 10,000 per week will be expelled.
	Homero Figuera told reporters that the government took the decision after noticing an excess of Haitian migrants in the Dominican Republic, which shares the island with Haiti.
	Torero said officials have seen an increase in Haitian migrants as a UN-backed mission in Haiti to fight gang violence flounders.
	I believe they were sending Kenyans.
	Was that not correct?
	That's correct.
	There's several hundred Kenyan police officers who were supposed to restore order, and they have failed.
	They have failed miserably.
	I suspect, to some degree, they contribute to the disorder, they being Kenyans, after all.
	Well, they, you know...
	The Dominican Republic has built a big, beautiful wall that I wish the Trump upcoming presidency would send an envoy down to get some pointers on the kind of wall we should build to separate Haitians from being able to inundate that nation since they share the same island.
	But he said that officials have seen an increase in Haitian migrants as UN-backed mission to fight gang violence has floundered, as I said.
	They agreed to strengthen border surveillance and control, but he didn't provide details.
	Last year, the Dominican Republic deported more than 174,000 people, et cetera, Haitians.
	And in the first half of this year alone, it's expelled at least 67 percent.
	I'm sorry, 67,000 more.
	So, you know, they're well on their way to getting that same number of Haitians removed back to Haiti.
	Activists have long criticized the administration of President Luis Abinader for what they are saying are ongoing human rights violations of Haitians and those of the Haitian descent born in the Dominican Republic.
	He's denied any such mistreatment.
	More importantly, he should not be that worried because his job as president of the Dominican Republic is to put the rights of his people above those who are inundating their nation illegally.
	The announcement comes a week after he announced that the UN General Assembly would take drastic measures if the mission in Haiti fails.
	It's led by nearly, as we stated, 400 police officers from Kenya, backed by nearly two dozen police and soldiers from Jamaica, and two senior military officials from Belize.
	That sounds like a wonderful Crayola crayon experiment there that has gone awry.
	The U.S. has learned that the mission lacks personnel and funding as it pushes for a U.N. peacekeeping mission instead.
	You know, Mr.
	Taylor, we've talked at length before that the United States of America, the Marines, actually occupied Haiti, I believe, from 1915 to about 1931.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, 1915 to 1931.
	And the NAACP was very worried about what that represented because blacks didn't want Haiti to fail because if Haiti failed, that would be the lone black republic in the Western Hemisphere failing.
	And that would only further provide evidence of stereotypes that white Americans had of black self-rule.
	And the article finishes up with this.
	Gangs in Haiti control 80 percent of the Port-au-Prince capital, and the violence has left nearly 700,000 Haitians homeless in recent years while thousands of others have fled the country, regrettably ending up in places like Logansport, like Springfield, like that town in Pennsylvania, like Sylacauga, Alabama, and other places. like that town in Pennsylvania, like Sylacauga, Alabama, and other I believe Fairhope is one we've talked about Alabama, which is a heavily,
	a fairly white city that has had some very contentious city council meetings where the citizens are voicing their concerns about what the Haitian inundation means for their small little town.
	I mean, again, this is all stuff that has to happen You know, the dispossession of the United States majority population that Wilmot Robinson wrote about so many decades ago.
	So many Americans are now seen in real time in their own little small towns.
	And you think that it can't happen to your little Whitopia?
	Guess what?
	The Haitian inundation can happen overnight.
	And the consequences of the social capital that took centuries, decades to build, it's washed away immediately.
	And you get the same situation that you find in Port-au-Prince and that the Dominican Republic is now trying to deal with by removing this inundation.
	And I'm very glad that local people are speaking up about this.
	They need to make a terrific stink.
	An absolutely terrific stink.
	Well, let's see.
	Mr.
	Kersey, I thought this was a very interesting article.
	It's about the languages Americans speak other than English and Spanish.
	Spanish, of course, is America's second most widely spoken language after English.
	And it is spoken by 62% of the non-English speaking households.
	This means America has the world's second largest Spanish speaking population after Mexico.
	That's quite something to ponder.
	But when looking at the data state by state, what comes in in third place after English, Spanish, it turns out to be German.
	German is the most commonly spoken language in more states than any other.
	Now, I don't think there are more German speakers than Chinese speakers, for example.
	But when it comes to the number of states in which the number three language is something, well, the number three language would be something other than English and Spanish, German is the most.
	There are more states.
	In 13 different states, that is the language that is spoken after Spanish and English.
	That far outnumbers the likes of French, that is the number three language in seven states, and Chinese in six states.
	Arabic is the number three language in four, and Vietnamese is in three.
	Most of the German-speaking states are clustered in America's so-called German belt, Where German immigration was once high.
	The fact is, these states, though, don't have such huge populations.
	Whereas where Chinese is a big language would be in California, for example.
	So I believe Chinese speakers do outnumber German speakers, but in the number of states, there are more states where German is the number three language.
	And I will list some of them for you.
	In fact, I think I will read them all out to you.
	That's Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, North Dakota, As you can see, these are not heavily populated states.
	Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, Arkansas, Kentucky, Indiana, West Virginia, and Alabama.
	I mean, these are surprising findings to me, but there you go.
	Well, I would say Alabama because I believe there are a number of German auto manufacturers that have relocated there.
	I'm surprised South Carolina is not on that list since B&W has a huge plant in Spartanburg right outside of Greenville.
	In South Carolina, believe it or not, this says that French is the third most common language.
	Well, I guess they parlay the voo, all right.
	Now, French, that is North Carolina and South Carolina and Louisiana.
	Louisiana, I understand.
	Maine, likewise, I understand because they've got these French-speaking Canucks.
	Also, New Hampshire and Vermont.
	That is the number three language.
	As for Chinese, as I said, California, where you would expect it.
	Also, the state of Washington, and then Kansas, of all places.
	Kansas.
	In addition to Pennsylvania and New York.
	This is, as I say, it's really quite intriguing to think of the number of the languages that are spoken once you subtract the Spanish speakers.
	And in Texas and Oklahoma, the number three language is Vietnamese, as it is in Mississippi.
	Who would have thunk it?
	Who would have thunk it?
	Three states where Vietnamese is the most common foreign language after Spanish.
	So, and there are some other places where, in Alaska, for example, Eskimo languages come in number three.
	In Minnesota, the language that comes in number third place is Hmong, Hmong, because of all those Cambodian hillsiders.
	What language do Somalian speak?
	Somali.
	That's what I thought.
	I'm surprised Somali isn't.
	Is Somali number two?
	I don't see Somali anywhere on this list.
	You would expect, well, I guess Maine has got, what is it, what the Dominicans discovered?
	An excess, an excess of Haitians?
	A surplus of Haitians?
	Well, Maine has a surplus of Somalis, but there are enough French speakers there, so Somali is not the number three language.
	Now, here's another one interesting too.
	In Iowa, And Michigan and Ohio, the number three language is Arabic.
	Ah, strange days, strange days.
	Now, uh-oh, we have, I believe we've run out of time, Mr.
	Kersey.
	And we ran out of time before we even told people how they should reach us.
	And the way to reach us is you can write to me.
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	Yeah, it's BecauseWeLiveHereAtProtonMail.com or you can send it to BecauseWeLiveHereAtProton.me.
	I also want to let all of our listeners know we're doing something different now with the podcast.
	I am getting the MP4 file and uploading it directly to my Twitter account.
	So a lot of people have been saying, God, we want Jared back on Twitter.
	We want Jared back on Twitter.
	Guess what?
	You're going to be able to get to hear the podcast directly on my Twitter account, and that Twitter account is at BWHL underscore, the acronym for Because We Live Here, at BWHL underscore.
	Geez, I can't even think what it is.
	Sorry, I'm terrible at this.
	But my point is this.
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	That's the Twitter handle, at BWLH underscore.
	I will be uploading this directly there.
	I encourage you all to share, if you have a Twitter account, to share the podcast on that platform so it can proliferate and we can have a A radio renaissance inundation of X, if you will.
	And also, Mr.
	Taylor, you and I, I would like to do a shout out real quick because you and I are doing a podcast on Saturday that I believe is going to be aired live with Dr.
	Greg Johnson, correct?
	I guess that's true.
	Yes, that is going to be live and be there or be square.
	Now, I don't really know how, I guess you can go to countercurrents, that's counter-currents.com and get the details on that.
	We'll be talking about elections or the one coming up.
	It's going to be a very exciting talk.
	Well, Mr.
	Kersey, we are exceeding our allotted time.
	And so, ladies and gentlemen, we consider this a great honor and a pleasure to spend this time with you, and we look forward to doing the same next week.

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