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July 16, 2024 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Hey guys, welcome to View From The Right.
This is Gregory Hood.
I'm here with Paul Kersey and we've got a very important episode today because this is coming off the assassination attempt against President Donald Trump.
At least one person has been killed.
There are two supposedly wounded, both in stable condition.
President Trump received a wound to the ear, just a centimeter.
We'd be in a very different timeline right now.
He's announced that he will be going to the funeral of the victim.
And we are also recording this, what seems to be probably just a few hours before he announces his vice presidential pick.
There's lots on pack, Paul.
What's your initial reaction?
Well, you know, it's one of those situations where, where were you?
I mean, this is, people still talk about, I remember when I was growing up, they'd say, oh, I know where, I know where I was when JFK was assassinated back in, what was it?
November of 1963.
Or where were you on 9-11?
This is one of those moments.
My phone was blowing up with people.
I can't believe it.
This is what you said was going to happen.
There was going to be an attempt.
There was always going to be an attempt.
And you've got to see this photo of President Trump raising his fist in defiance with the American flag in the background.
What I take from it is we live in a world where since he came down the escalator, it's amazing there haven't been more attempts, Mr. Hood.
Well, there have been.
I mean, remember during the first campaign, there was the man who rushed the stage.
And of course, CNN then had him on the show to talk about how Trump is a bully and how he is such a great hero for rushing the stage and everything else.
There have been quite a few Now half-hearted attempts.
I mean, the key here is that blood was drawn and that a Trump supporter was killed.
And, of course, people are saying, well, well, January 6th.
It's like, yeah, well, the only people who died that day were also Trump supporters.
So, yeah, absolutely.
Exactly.
No, I mean, that's that's it's the world that we've we've known exists.
And I think so much has happened over the past month that is really, really showcasing the sad reality of the left and what you've always called the media run state, with them protecting Joe Biden to such a degree that we now know why he was hiding in his basement back in 2020, because his cognitive decline was What we've known of Joe Biden is what we saw finally.
The facade broke.
And now we've had year after year after year of Trump being called a Nazi, a fascist.
And this is what I tell apolitical friends when I'm doing something as benign as hanging out at the gym wearing a Trump shirt.
I love wearing Trump shirts everywhere, especially to the gym or when I play tennis or pickleball.
or pick up sport and they're like, man, I love Trump, I'm afraid to wear that.
It's like, no, you can't be anymore.
This is where we are.
I mean, Trump represents something beyond belief and it's awesome when you get positive reinforcement.
And now with this assassination attempt, I mean, Kevin, I had so many people calling me saying,
you've said this for years, this was gonna happen.
I mean, have you seen the video yet?
I'm like, Kevin, I don't wanna watch the video because apparently what, they got three shots fired
in five seconds.
Yeah, I mean, the problem of course is that, all right, well, let's take a step back
and talk about the larger issues here.
Because as I see it, there are three main things.
First, the question of who's to blame.
We actually don't know that much about the shooter.
And if I had to bet right now, I wouldn't be surprised that this is sort of an apolitical schizo thing.
But then again, It seems to be that the primary purpose of the FBI and law enforcement in these sorts of situations is basically wipe the shooter's social media profile so nobody can find anything out.
So you get this insane race between random right-wing anons on X and 4chan, whatever else,
trying desperately to dig up as much information as possible,
while the journalists and the security services do their best to cover up as much information as possible
and put out fake narratives.
So when President Biden gets out there and says, oh, trust the FBI to do its investigation,
like those are the last people I would trust.
I mean, anything they tell us is probably going to be wrong because they, I mean,
it's gonna be like the Las Vegas shooting where they're just kind of like, well, maybe this happened,
but we don't know.
And if you ask questions, you're stupid and we're going to investigate you.
And that's the end of it.
And that's the only kind of investigation we get.
That, to me, I think is the reaction to the shooting is in some sense more important than what was driving the shooter himself, because what we've seen since, they have not backed down.
I mean, let's take even what a lot of people would consider to be the most good faith response, which was Biden's speech.
Biden Unless I missed something.
Biden didn't even mention the attack on Republican congressional delegation that wounded Steve Scalise.
I mean, the attempted assassination of basically the entire Republican delegation to Congress.
That's been completely memory hold.
Not least by the Republicans themselves, who got shot at.
Were you working at a certain organization when that happened?
I don't remember.
Right down the street from it.
Think about how many times Rand Paul has been attacked.
His neighbor came up as he was mowing his own lawn.
People joked about it and said it was justified and whatever else.
This is the key.
You're not seeing a wave of violence against Democratic politicians the same way you're seeing against just Republicans who are not all that great, but who are still being framed by the media as literally Hitler.
And so you constantly get this violence against them.
You constantly see Republican Party headquarters and random local, you know, random localities, random states get attacked.
You constantly see low-level Antifa violence.
You constantly have This sort of hand-in-glove relationship between local DAs who smile at left-wing rioters and let them get away with everything and maybe even pay them afterward, whereas Republicans who do something like, I don't know, protest an abortion clinic, and that's not even my issue, but you get these like grannies being sent to jail for like decades at a time.
And then you finally get something like this, and nobody's backing down.
You have people openly saying, you know, I wish they hadn't missed, That the guy who was killed had it coming because he went to this rally, or he said something on social media that I don't like, therefore, you know, it's good that he was killed and everything else.
You had this sort of strange one-two thing that the media did where they initially blamed Trump for getting shot.
Where they said, well, he's created this atmosphere of violence and what we really need to worry about is Republican retaliation.
Of course, there was no Republican retaliation.
There have been no riots.
There's been no nothing.
And then at the same time, they also say, well, really nothing happened.
So you saw that initial thing where they, CNN was like, oh, well, Trump fell or there was an incident.
Or there were popping sounds, and then Trump left because he's weak, and that's all that happened.
Maybe somebody died, but we're not going to get into it at the end.
I mean, it's remarkable how something that happened on live television that we all saw, and it's pretty scary to think about what would have happened if that had been into his head and everybody would have seen that.
Oh my gosh, no.
I mean, and the thing is, it would have been insufferable in terms of the reaction to it
because it just would have been openly celebrated.
Yep.
And seen as a gif everywhere.
They'd be doing the, oh, follow your leader, and his head exploding and everything else.
You know, Barron or Melania or whoever else freaking out, that would be lovingly chronicled
on social media.
Everybody would be having a grand old time.
Nobody's sorry about this.
Nobody's upset by it.
Nobody actually wants to lower the temperature.
They're all just mad that they're briefly on the defensive.
And of course there is no counter.
And this is, maybe tells us a lot about the state of the presidential race.
On the left, you have everybody screaming that Trump needs to be taken out one way or
the other.
And on the right, we're all begging Biden, stay in the race.
I mean, we can't, I mean, by we, I mean like the right generally, American Renaissance, one candidate or the other, but let's just say Trump supporters don't want Biden out, whereas Biden supporters desperately want Trump out.
Yeah, and going back to what you talked about with low-level Antifa violence, I still, there's still an event that lives rent-free in my mind.
I think it was the He was going to do a rally in California, and the Secret Service had to actually take him out back, and there's video of Trump walking awkwardly on this hill as they're trying to get him out.
That's the one where a bunch of white kids were chased by black and brown people.
It was like out of a zombie apocalypse as they're leaving the Trump rally, but the image that lives right through my mind from that Is all the Trump supporters had to walk through this throng of Antifa to get into the rally.
And there's a white father holding his daughter in his arms, or son, and his wife is behind him and she's holding his kid.
And I think about that family all the time, because those are the type of people who go to Trump rallies.
You know, those are the type of people who are standing behind the president.
Like you said, the guy who was shot and died, the 50-year-old retired firefighter, beloved by his community.
Oh my gosh, he talked about pasteurized milk and he said the Ukraine-Russia conflict was dumb and that, you know, why are we backing Ukraine?
Why are we?
Anyways, the point is, you know, these are the people who like President Trump, the people who go to these rallies.
I've been to rallies.
I went to a rally with you on the day that there was an Islamic terror attack in California.
I forgot the city.
San Bernardino, right?
That's right.
Yeah.
And you know, I'll never forget this.
President Trump gave a prayer for the lives lost at San Bernardino.
This was in 20, I think 2015, at the end of 2015, like December.
And I remember Halfway during his prayer or a silent moment, he started looking around the room to gauge the room to when he should stop.
Because, you know, again, he's a showman.
He's a, he's a, he's, he's a character.
And now I think this was the moment that he became a statesman in a lot of ways.
And he's now become something even bigger in the eyes of his supporters.
Cause I talked to some people today and, and they were, they were, they were like, yeah, I was almost in tears, you know, cause I was listening.
He's a figure of myth at this point.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And I mean, at this point he's got, The two greatest images of the last two years are the mugshot and him raising his fist.
And as much as I hate journalists, I mean, credit has to go to the journalist who ran out there to get the photo.
You can actually see him on the tape.
Everybody else is ducking and this dude's running across to make sure he gets the pictures.
The thing about it, what's interesting with the video too, is that you can tell that he's initially in shock because you can get the audio.
And at first, Trump is saying, let me get my shoes on, let me get my shoes on.
And the Secret Service is like, like, we gotta go, man.
We don't have time for your shoes.
It's obviously he's in some kind of shock, because I've been told when people are in shock, they say things like this, they kind of seize on some minor detail that doesn't really matter and keep talking about it.
But then he has the presence of mind to say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
And then throw up the fist and kind of reassure the crowd that he's OK.
I mean, at this point, he didn't know anybody in the crowd had been killed.
I want to give the guys a name.
His name is Corey Comperatore, who was a former fire chief in Pennsylvania.
I also want to quote what one Libtard account is saying.
He publicly advocated running over a bicyclist, loved Vladimir Putin, drank unpasteurized milk, and posted all manner of vile propaganda.
Now, just throwing in the unpasteurized milk, As something like, well, maybe he had it coming, maybe he deserves to be shot for something like that.
What you really see with these sorts of things, I mean, what really defines the in-group, out-group, I mean, whether a guy drinks raw milk or whatever, I mean, who cares?
But it's a signal that you're not in line with what media is telling you and therefore, to some extent, you're dangerous and you have it coming.
It's reminiscent of what we saw during the COVID thing where I mean, at a certain point, whether the vaccines worked or not almost doesn't matter.
It was just, well, why aren't you taking it?
TV is saying you need to take it if you're not listening to what TV says you're a terrorist.
Like, it really does go no farther than that.
Yeah, you know, it's funny what you just said, because I want to quote someone on Twitter.
John Doyle tweeted out this.
You shoot into a crowd of Trump supporters like in Butler.
You hit hardworking men adored by their families.
You shoot into a crowd of leftists, like in Kenosha, you hit convicted sex offenders and pedophiles.
Huh.
What are the odds?
I mean, it's, you, you think about, you know, and, and, you know, we've talked about how Starship Troopers has impacted both of us and the whole concept of voting.
You are exercising force and that's what you're doing with the franchise.
And that's why this election is so important.
Regardless, again, we cannot endorse candidates.
We're not endorsing candidates, but what this election is coming down to now, People need to read the article that you wrote for Emrin.com, where you looked at all the tweets that are coming out by the left.
I mean, think about this.
Morning Joe was not aired this morning on MSNBC because of the rhetoric that they've used in trying to say that, oh, we've got to get Trump out, we've got to get Trump out, the inflammatory rhetoric that they've used.
I saw somewhere on one of the ABC shows, again, they're blaming Trump for his rhetoric, that you had this coming.
I mean, that is the mindset of the left.
And God, I hate to even go back to that rally in Chicago, where the Antifa infiltrated it back in 2016.
And Ted Cruz, to his everlasting discredit, blamed Trump for the Antifa riot that happened when they couldn't even do the rally, when all the leftists got up on stage and started ripping up the Trump signs.
Ted Cruz blamed Trump for that rhetoric.
And again, I mean, the right needs to understand.
I mean, look what they've done when they went to the Supreme Court Justice Houses.
I can tell you personally that one story has really impacted me when Tucker Carlson's wife was hiding in the cupboard at her house in Georgetown when the Antifa showed up.
200, 300, 400 Antifa showed up as he's filming his show, and they're trying to break down the door to his home.
I mean, think about that.
Think about where, think about the climate right now.
And like you said, how would the left be cheering the death of what they view as Thanos or Emperor Palpatine or Darth Vader, whatever, whatever reference you can think of, or, you know, or Voldemort.
Well, yeah, because it's all just, it's all just fiction.
I mean, this is, as the meme says, you know, liberals don't know things.
They don't study statistics.
The few facts they know, they forget.
Their entire worldview is derived from the consumption of fiction.
So everything is some Star Wars, everything is Harry Potter.
Well, not Harry Potter anymore because, you know, J.K.
Rowling doesn't think men can be women or whatever else.
But whatever the franchise is like that, that is what defines the politics.
I mean, it's just whatever slop is on TV crudely expressed into a political worldview.
It really does go no farther than that.
And that's fine because I, you know, there's a lot of admirable characteristics to take from the bad guys in some of these stories.
So, because a lot of times they're more nuanced and, and well thought out.
And I think that's one of the, that's one of the great ironies of all of this is that Trump is a moderate guy who said some things that are illiberal and he's really pissed off the status quo.
And I think, I think he has probably had Some conversations with his sons about what his place in history means, and especially after something like this.
I mean, you think about just All of the wars that have been waged, the lawfare by Letitia James and the New York AG, you think about everything that's happened with the cases in Georgia.
Of course, a lot of these cases are being dismissed now in Washington and stuff and him getting immunity.
But at the same time, he's a guy who was a billionaire.
And as we know, most of the time when these guys come out of office, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, they are adored and they are paid Tens of thousands of dollars just to give a speech, you know a couple times a week and they've got money rolling in Trump Trump doesn't have that, you know, if if if Trump doesn't win I mean they're gonna continue to wage war on him and he really is that figure that mythic figure now and and again We're not trying to we're not trying to you know to to blow the it here I mean that like after this shooting people are looking at him and just this different light and and it's it's
It's going to be a very interesting what happens this week and the speech he gives at the RNC convention.
I wish I could be there.
But again, I don't really like Milwaukee that much either.
I think he was right in what he said about Milwaukee.
Didn't you do a great replacement of Milwaukee, by the way?
Yeah, a while back.
I mean, it's going to be the RNC, of course, is already getting the usual protests, but nothing Too out of control.
It's just like Revolutionary Communist Party and the people who run around and do protests all the time.
But I mean, this is one of the keys here is that if you look at the polls of the swing states right now, and if you look at the facts on the ground, the left has structural advantages in all the states that you need to win because Trump has to win.
Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, like these kinds of states.
And the voting, the way voting has been set up post 2020, There doesn't seem to be any Republican response to that.
There's still no ground game.
The state parties are utterly devastated.
The one thing that may have changed is that, I wouldn't be surprised, you do see some elites now moving toward Trump.
Uh, Bill Ackman, uh, Elon Musk, of course, right after Trump was shot, said, you know, it's kind of buried the lead, but he endorsed Trump and is donating to him and everything else.
And I wouldn't be surprised if Trump cleans up and fundraising, uh, over the weekend and then next weekend.
So he might have enough of a cash advantage that he can actually start getting some guys to the ground because infrastructure is going to be really important in the election because this is going to be all about turnout.
One thing that Democrats have going for them, other than the fact that they can just sort of generate fake votes in a lot of the big cities, is they can run their turnout operations from the black churches, which are really who determine who the Democratic candidates are going to be in the primaries and everything else.
And I think that depending on who Trump picks, you're going to really need to Go out of your way to make sure that rural white voters turn out, especially in these Rust Belt states.
And I've never seen a voting operation that really targets these guys.
I mean, there was some comments well before the shooting from the Trump campaign team where they were saying, well, we're not, we're not focusing on Karens, you know, which is anti-white racial slur, but we're focusing on like black men because we think that's going to be the key to victory.
I mean, maybe this, you got to wonder how much, Sam Francis wrote a column like 20 years ago where he said a lot of the comments that you see from Republicans, it's not so much that they actually want to win minority votes, but they actually want to give white moderates the feeling that they're allowed to vote Republican.
So how much of this is they really believe?
But without a specific turnout operation dedicated to rural whites, I just don't think he's going to get over the top in a lot of these states.
I don't know.
I still think that it's going to be much closer than people think.
And I think the complacency in the Trump camp is completely unwarranted.
Yeah, you know, I just want to go back and say another thing about all this.
Well, you're exactly right.
You know, the ballot harvesting is terrible.
To do all that and have such a long time in some of these states, because I think the Wisconsin Supreme Court actually upheld the validity of the ballot drop boxes and stuff, which is terrible because it's so utterly unnecessary.
But one of the things that strikes me about this whole episode, though, I had a friend.
I have a friend.
I won't go into great detail, but they they know a lot about the Secret Service.
And he told me that there is a goal by, I think, twenty 30 to have 30% of the force of the Secret Service to be
females and One of the startling things about some of the images coming
out of this are just you know When you think about the Secret Service you think about
guys that like a Dan Bongino you think about really muscular
really fit ex-military ex-cops you know the movie in the line of fire with
I don't know if you've ever seen that.
You think about just these very athletic, just incredible chads.
Let's call them what they are, just badasses.
And seeing these images of these women guarding Trump, it's embarrassing.
It's like something out of a comedy film in a lot of ways.
It's like that remake of Ghostbusters back in 2016.
You're like, why are all these women here?
Where are the men to guard the president?
And, you know, that's, you know, a lot of people were talking about conspiracies and stuff.
And in my opinion, what happened is you just had a breakdown of local police and the Secret Service.
This kind of stuff unfortunately happens.
And we're just lucky, like you said, that the three shots didn't find their intended target.
And as you said, I think, is it President Trump going to attend the funeral of the guy who passed away?
Yeah, he is going to attend.
Prime Minister Maloney has also paid tribute to the victim because he was of Italian descent.
From what I'm hearing, I mean, right now, I hesitated to bring this up because it could change.
I'm hearing some reports that it's going to be J.D.
Vance for the vice presidential pick.
As of the time of this recording, that doesn't get confirmed.
By the time you're listening to this, it probably will be confirmed, whoever it is.
I mean, if we assume that it is Vance, obviously, I mean, Ohio, right?
And obviously what he's trying to do then is prioritize He's going to focus on the Rust Belt.
He's going to throw everything at those states.
That does seem to be the winning play.
The alternative is you go with Yunkin and you try to go for Virginia, which is kind of an outside... I mean, if you can get Virginia, you win the whole thing.
That's pretty obvious.
But Yunkin, you're trying to get the suburban voters, you're trying to get the moderates, you're trying to get the people who want permission to vote Republican, right?
The question, though, and this is something that was, I mean, it's basically just gone from the right now.
I mean, the right is basically united around Trump in a way that was unimaginable even a couple of weeks ago.
But to go back before the shooting, what a lot of people were talking about was, well, what can we really expect if Trump wins?
Because he's disavowed Project 2025.
Now, I wasn't particularly attached to Project 2025 as such, but I don't like it when they disavow anybody.
So, I mean, I think that's just kind of weak.
And a lot of the guys, Project 2025, were ready to go to the mat for Trump.
I mean, there's a history of this, right?
What happened with GreatAgain.gov, where you had people who would literally take a bullet for Trump, who would never talk to the press, who would never... I mean, let's not forget, J.D.
Vance was a never-Trumper.
In 2016.
And there's all sorts of quotes that he said, which I'm sure the Democrats are going to love to use in campaign ads.
So we saw what happened with Pence, where Pence basically took over the personnel and was filled with typical Republican goofs who betrayed him at every turn.
And then at the critical moment, Pence didn't do anything.
Now we may have something similar.
Now, I don't know.
I think Vance is probably a bit more Solid than Pence.
But we do have the obvious question, which is, is Trump actually going to follow through on this stuff?
Because so much of what Trump is about is the myth of Trump, because he has become a mythical figure.
But at some point we actually need to see action.
At this point, the way the country is, I mean, the fact that the election is even this close should be a massive black pill to people and a massive wake-up call.
The demographics in this country are such that you're never going to see a Reagan-style or Nixon-style landslide again unless it's like for President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a few years from now.
You're going to need mass deportations just for America to survive, and that's going to be an incredible battle.
And you also know the courts are just going to say, nope, not allowed.
So, I mean, the shot at Trump, we keep saying, you know, I hope he's learned something from his first term.
I hope that the lawfare, now the literal attempt on his life and everything else, has convinced him that he can't get along with these people, that he needs to go to the mat, that there's nothing he can do which will allow these people to accept him, because arguably his biggest flaw is that he keeps seeking approval and respect from people who will never give it to him.
And that's and that's the most important thing that the right needs to that whatever is emerging, whatever we call view from the right, whoever we're talking to, never seek approval from people who will cheer when you're when there's an attempt on your life or be upset that it didn't happen.
I mean, some of the things that I've seen that have been said, there's a band, this this odious Jack Black, a band called Tenacious D, and they actually said, hey, don't miss next time at a concert they just did.
And it's like, really?
Come on, what in the world is going on here?
I mean, the thing about Tenacious D, too, is that is so unbelievably cringe.
That was probably, what, 20 years ago?
These are like two fat guys.
Who goes to a Tenacious D concert in 2024?
I can't say I've even thought of that name.
I'm going to a free concert in 2024, so.
I mean, it's, you gotta ask yourself, like, who are these people who are still, I mean, at this point, you're like, what, 40, 50 years old, and you're still trying to relive your youth by using, I don't know, jokes about, like, oh, you might as well say, like, George W. Bush is like a theocrat.
I'm not going to go to church, Mom, because I'm a rebel.
I mean, this is so warmed over.
It's so lame.
Left-wing culture really has lost the mandate of heaven.
I mean, you look at somebody like a Colbert, you look at somebody like Jon Stewart, you look at somebody like Kimmel or any of these guys, they're not funny.
They have nothing to say.
You know every opinion they've ever had.
You know every opinion they're ever going to have.
Even with pop culture, it's just so derivative and it's so repetitive and there's nothing subversive, there's nothing new.
I mean, at this point, it's just some shrieking harpy screaming at you over and over and over again what you are required to believe.
And what's most infuriating about all of this is they still posture like they're the rebels.
Like it's Animal House, and they're like, ooh, we're standing up to the stuffy old dean or something like that.
These people have been in charge my entire life, and they were in charge 30 years before that.
I mean, none of these people have ever faced opposition in their entire lives.
Even now, after the attack on Trump, even after blood has been spilled, these people are still running their mouth on social media, and if it went the other way, Everybody involved would be banned.
I mean, let's be clear here.
If, God forbid, there had been an attack on President Biden and he had escaped, or if he had even been hit, certainly nobody would be calling for unity.
Nobody would be saying, oh, we need to decrease the temperature.
Nobody would be giving speeches saying, we must not do this.
This is not who we are.
You would have people screaming for war.
You'd have people screaming for camps.
You'd have media being shut down left and right.
You'd have people going to jail for things that they said.
People who spread a conspiracy theory saying this is fake or something like that would get the Alex Jones treatment and charged $1 billion.
I mean, there are plenty of people who I chronicled on the latest article who were saying that on the left, just flat out denying that this even happened.
that Trump somehow did it and somehow rigged it so he got shot in the ear and like turning his head
at that one little moment when he went to look at immigration figures, ironically enough,
that that little motion that saved his life, this tiny little thing, which nobody could plan in a
million years, that somehow he planned that in advance, and also that either the people who were
killed weren't actually killed or that Trump sacrificed them because he's just such a jerk.
Well, I mean, any of Alex Jones said, I think, far less extreme stuff about the school shooting
and they destroyed his life over it.
But, I mean, people are saying, oh, these guys are going to get the Alex Jones treatment.
No, they're not.
None of these people are going to have to pay a fine.
None of these people are going to get sued.
And if they do get sued, some judge will throw it out.
I mean, we all know how the system works in this country.
They'll have a Netflix special.
I'm sure that Tenacious D right now, even though Jack Black is trending on Twitter, I'm sure he'll have a Netflix special.
He'll be in the next Jumanji with Dwayne The Rock Johnson and nobody's going to cancel him or say you can't act or say you can't do a music, you can't go on tour at this facility.
We're going to cancel your contract.
No, you're exactly right.
The mandate from heaven.
I think it's really important to go back to three words, though, that Trump said, fight, fight, fight.
Am I quoting that correctly, or is that what he said when he spoke?
Yeah, and there were some people, of course, mad about that.
I mean, what I find really remarkable is there were a number of articles coming from the left where they said, well, this was a strange, angry reaction, as if he did something wrong by being fired up after he just got shot in the ear.
You know?
I mean, this is not—they really think that they have—and I know Mr. Taylor is always saying, you know, don't mind Reid and don't— Don't try to pretend that you know what these guys are thinking, but if I had to hazard a guess, they really do seem to take it for granted that they are the only ones who tell us, they are the only ones who are entitled to tell us what the significance of any incident is.
And that if we respond with any kind of emotion, that is something dangerous.
That is something illegitimate.
But if somebody in their coalition responds with emotion or feels threatened, woman, non-white, gay, whatever, like the entire system needs to be brought to a screeching halt to cater to their feelings.
And there needs to be a legislative solution.
And the problem is that white people are still talking, even on The View.
What did they say the root cause of all this was?
The root cause is that white men have guns.
That's the problem.
No matter what the incident is, no matter who the target is, The answer is always we need to disarm our political opponents, we need to make it illegal for them to talk, and we need to make sure that violence against them is greeted with a wink and a nod.
And they can never be victims because they're always privileged, by definition.
I mean, interestingly enough, one of the leading conspiracy theorists about all this who was saying, oh, well, this is too perfect, nobody would act like that with their fist is, of course, Tim Wise.
Tim Wise, who has openly fantasized about the death of white America, Tim Wise who has repeatedly just gets hammered and starts typing away on Twitter saying all sorts of ridiculous things.
He's still going to get paid.
By all these universities, you're still going to get brought in by Google or whatever else to counsel on diversity and equity and inclusion, all these types of things.
No one is actually going to pay a price with this.
And no one, it's never going to stop until you actually get to the root of all these things, which is you need to rip the heart out of the so-called civil rights legislation and the regulatory imperatives that it imposes on everybody.
But if you're not willing to do that, We're just going to keep complaining about double standards for the rest of our lives until the demographics change is so great that there's nothing we can do about it.
I mean, there is a time limit here.
There's a time limit.
There's a time limit.
I think that's one of the things that is so endearing to to the Trump supporters.
I think that is something that, again, this is the stuff that Trump is still talking about that in our lifetime we've never heard Republicans bring up.
Of course, that is anti-white racism.
You're seeing the most effective right-leaning individuals out there are galvanizing their readers, their supporters, their base, whether it's Steve Miller or Chris Ruffo.
I mean, they're being forced to talk about this.
They're being dragged to talk about this, whether they want to or not.
And I think, you know, Sam Dixon asked me a question.
I gave a speech at the VDR conference talking about You know, just how far we've come since Elon Musk has taken over Twitter and just kind of shocking the rhetoric that the right is using.
And he asked a question, well, what if, what if, oh gosh, who's the, who's the direct mail guru on the right?
Why am I blinking on his name?
Richard Vigery.
Richard Vigery.
What happens if he tries to fundraise off of that?
Isn't that a bad thing?
They're co-opted and stuff.
And it's like, no, you know, a rising, a rising tide, you know, raises all boats.
And if we reach a point where they're doing direct mail fundraising, talking about this type of stuff, I think that shows you not only how far we've come, but they've realized that it's a winning issue, both electorally and more importantly, for their bank accounts.
Because that's unfortunately what a lot of these people fundamentally care about for their clients, because they want to make money for their clients that they're hired for.
And I think one of the great things that we've seen with that anti-white book that was written by the gentleman from the Claremont Institute, he's going to congressional meetings and meeting with lawmakers, meeting with Republican elected officials, and he's meeting with interns, and he's talking openly about the anti-white nature of the situation.
That's so important because there has to be a framework, there has to be a foundation before everything can truly start to change.
And again, Jared Taylor, Peter Brimlow, Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis, Gregory Hood, you know, these characters that have existed have been building, you know, bricks that are ready to be placed upon that foundation.
Dropping, you know the white pills and stuff you think of all the people we know who have suffered but at the same time now We're coming to that endgame.
We know what the left wants.
They want this president dead.
They they hate us We are the last line the truly last line to stop them because we actually care about what the founding fathers actually cared about and that is articulating race as the central focus and What we've seen with the left now in this situation with the Trump assassination attempt, and it's so important that you started the podcast out with that because that's not being said enough.
You know, the left wants to be like, Oh, you know, no guys, this guy tried to kill the president and we don't know anything about him right now.
We don't know his politics, but we also know that, um, a couple of, a couple of years ago, well, six years ago, a guy drove to a suburban baseball field and open fire on a bunch of Republicans, get
ready to play baseball. And thank God there were some sharpshooters there who took him
out quickly, because think about all the people that were there. That could have been a mass
event. And he was motivated and influenced by left-wing publications, by the media, because
he was told that Trump is a fascist.
And if you're a Trump supporter, ipso facto, you're a fascist, right? I mean, that's what
we've heard this whole time. You're a racist. And at some point, I'm not saying this, but it's like,
all right, if you're going to call us that, whatever.
We don't care anymore.
These words mean nothing because your actions by being motivated by these words and the way that you celebrate it and the way that you say, well, I wish it happens.
I hope it happens again, like Tenacious D has done.
How can you have peace with that, Kevin?
How can you make peace with people?
Well, you can't.
I mean, that's kind of the key here is that One of the key problems that we have with all of this is these calls for unity only go for one direction and they only come at certain times.
Nobody is ever saying, I remember after 2016, for about a day, you had a bit of soul searching where people said, well, maybe we should go out to these people who voted for Trump and see what their grievances are.
And maybe we need to rethink some of the assumptions that we've had about what America is and the way it should work.
And that did not last very long.
Instead, they seized on the idea that this is a whitelash, as Van Jones put it, that really Trump himself was fundamentally illegitimate.
The conspiracy theory is that it was Russian propaganda, that somehow these people who voted for him either didn't exist, or if they did exist, they shouldn't exist.
And we need to make sure that we crack down on all these things and censor their speech.
And of course, not to, I mean, I know we're, everybody's rallying around the Commander-in-Chief here, the real Commander-in-Chief, but Trump allowed this to happen on his watch.
And then eventually the same monster that he allowed to grow came for him after January 6th.
arguably before that, too. But we really, I think there's an understanding on the right now that
wasn't there a decade ago that it is going to be settled one way or the other.
It is going to be a victory or defeat.
I don't think it's gone far enough.
I think you still have a lot of Republicans saying, well, you know, now is the time to be magnanimous.
Now is the time to, to show that we're not like them, that we can appeal to higher.
I mean, you see this, especially from people who never liked Trump to begin with, S.E.
Cupp and people like that.
Like, oh, actually Trump should have a press conference with Biden and talk about unity or something like that.
But it was Biden who before the midterms gave that crazy speech, remember, with the red and black background, where he started screaming about how Trump is a threat to democracy and everything else.
We already know that the FBI and the DHS has been targeting conservatives as the number
one terrorist threat.
We know that the Pentagon is targeting conservatives.
We know that there was a huge purge after January 6th.
I know from friends in the military that they were basically doing a witch hunt and going
through everybody and basically saying, look, it doesn't matter if you're a combat veteran,
it doesn't matter if you have skills that we need.
If you support the wrong people, you're out.
And instead, we want to have trans queers and we want to have women and we want to have
non-whites because that's what America is and that's what we want the military to be.
Of course, now they're facing the problem that you might be in a real war and there
are no white people to actually fight the thing.
Certainly, you saw the same sort of thing with the Secret Service too, where the number
one target.
Or one of the main three targets, I believe, a couple years ago was announced by the female chief of the department is going to be diversity.
And then when everybody was laughing at this kind of pathetic performance that we saw a couple days ago, it's like, yeah, but that's protecting the president is not their job anymore.
Their job is providing.
patronage to women and whatever else. That is what they exist to do. That's the same thing that
happened to NASA. That's the same thing that happened in the military. That's the same thing
that happened to a lot of these government institutions.
Now, you have to turn that back, but there's sort of this inchoate non-philosophy. It's just
emotional feelings that the right is putting forward. If you say to a
typical conservative, even a base conservative, like the National Conservative
Convention that just happened or whatever else, and you say, well, what is America? Who is an American?
What defines a member of the American nation?
As opposed to somebody who is not of the American nation, they don't really have an answer.
And a lot of times they still end up falling back on the vague nation of ideas type thing.
At best, you might get something like, oh, well, America is not just a nation of ideas.
America is a people.
But.
It's a people that's still sort of like random.
It's just people who happen to be here for any length of time and were shaped by common experiences.
The counter to that from the left is, well, then just why not let everybody in?
Because then everybody can be an American.
I mean, at some point, and we're kind of talking around it here, but this is American Renaissance, at some point you come face to face with the racial question.
Because at the end of the day, America was built by white people and it was founded explicitly by and for white people.
It was not founded for other people at all.
And ultimately, if you look at the people who are coming in now, the purpose of mass immigration, and I'll say it again and I don't care who opposes me on this because this is something I'll go to the mat for, the purpose of mass immigration is revenge against white America for its existence.
It's the same thing that drives mass immigration in Europe.
If it was good for these countries, it would not happen.
If these people had something to contribute to the country, they'd be broadcasting the Border Patrol firing machine guns on every network.
That is what they would do.
We know this because look at the way South Africa is covered.
Look at the way the farm murders are covered with this kind of gleeful, vengeful, inglorious Bastyrs type sadism, where it's actually good that these people are being killed.
When white people try to seek refugee status, it's denied.
And you see another viewpoint on it when you see the coverage of the Trump supporter who was just killed, where there's no soul-searching.
Nobody even thinks about him or references him in the mainstream media, except to vaguely say that he had a comment.
And that's how they feel about all of this.
I mean, as you said, Yeah, and it's still weird to think that this has all happened.
was fired at every single Donald Trump supporter, and nobody is having second thoughts about any of this.
Yeah, no, and it's still weird to think that this has all happened.
It's weird to think about, really, the past month, how many things that we've been told,
or the fantasies, really, of the left.
I mean, think about how many, how many people, um, one of the first things that happened after Trump, uh, after he won was, or was it the, was the campaign still going on or had he already won when they did the play in New York where Laura Loomer and Pasovic went and they tried to break it up where it was, uh, That was literally the thing that broke the alliance between the alt-right and the alt-left.
Yeah.
Yeah this is kind of like inside baseball but you basically my whole life my whole life what I wanted happened in 2015 and 2016 where you basically had people who were sort of soft civic nationalists and then explicit white nationalists
basically working together all through 2015, 2016 and in the immediate aftermath of
the Trump victory.
And basically what ended it was that play where they basically had Trump as Caesar and
reenact him being killed.
And Richard Spencer said, no, you know, this is kind of a Philistine take, trying to shut down these sorts of things.
And then it kind of blew up into a larger breakdown.
And then you had the dueling riots about a month and a half in D.C.
before Charlottesville.
And then, of course, you had Charlottesville.
And that was the end of that.
Talk about inside baseball.
Yeah, I know.
But I mean, these sorts of little online things tend to blow up and become bigger things because this is how movements split apart.
I mean, look, in fighting and ideological differences, I mean, that's that just comes with the territory is what it is.
I mean, I'm not taking sides with this out of the other thing.
It's just.
It's unfortunate, that's all, but it's also inevitable.
But the point is, I mean, if you it's impossible to think of that being done with somebody like Obama or even Biden and them saying, well, artistic freedom.
Well, we're just raising questions.
Well, we're just trying to be provocative.
Like, all of that only goes in one direction.
And at a certain point, if you're on the right and you're trying to engage with this sort of stuff in good faith, I mean, it's trying to nail jello to the wall.
Because the standards are always shifting.
There are no rules.
There are no universals here.
It's just whatever works.
And At the end of the day, and I hate to be simplistic about it, and I know Mr. Taylor will accuse me of mind reading here, but I just think that
It really is the North Star for them.
It's just this sort of vague fury against whites for existing.
It always comes down to that.
If you scratch the surface on any one of these issues, be it immigration, be it the attack on Trump and his supporters, be it the election generally, be it what they think of as quote unquote fascism, or any of Trump's proposed policies, or what they think are Trump's proposed policies, because the Trump of their imagination is way more based and awesome than the Trump that actually exists.
Ultimately, it's just anti-white resentment, and everything flips around.
It doesn't matter what the issue is.
That is the only governing principle.
Every leftist becomes a blood and soil nationalist when you start talking about quote-unquote indigenous peoples in the Americas.
But then all of a sudden if you look at something like Europe, even countries with no history of colonialism like Ireland, or even emigration or immigration like Iceland, suddenly nobody's an indigenous person.
Suddenly nobody has a right to a homeland.
And it only goes one way.
Now this is like Very basic bitch type rhetoric from white identitarians, but it is still important because if you don't get that through your head, there's no way to understand everything that's happening and you still see these sort of
Boomer conservatives sort of groping in the dark, having no idea why the people that they're trying to have a dialogue with, they're constantly changing their positions.
And it's like, look, their position is that they hate you.
And it really doesn't go any farther than that.
And the other thing is that this hatred is mostly shaped by fiction in media.
Why do people hate people who really are not a threat to anybody in particular, sort of like wasps?
or members of fraternities or southerners or rednecks or these kind of like stand-in villains,
it's because those are the bad guys they see on TV and movies. And it really goes no deeper than
that. There was an interesting poll a couple days ago where it talked about what Americans think the
population is. And of course, they have a wildly mistaken idea of what the population is, wildly
overestimating the number of Jews, the number of blacks, the number of homosexuals, the number of
of Muslims in the American population.
But given that you watch TV and that's where you get most of your impressions from, that is what you would assume the American population is.
You wouldn't assume that it's mostly white guys, because when is the last time you ever see any of those people on TV?
What there's here in Virginia, there's this It's kind of a funny thing, but there's a Dukes of Hazzard-like museum-type place that was set up by the guy who played Cooter, who actually was a Democratic congressman from the South.
He got elected because of the show.
He was still in office, I think, up until about 2000.
I think he left the Democratic Party over gay marriage.
But he set up this thing, and I went to it, because why not?
I passed it all the time.
Not that I'm too young, I think, to grow up with Dukes of Hazzard.
But one of the interesting things about it is when you look into the show and everything else, there were a lot of shows that were targeted at rural white Americans that had got good ratings.
People still think of them as classics, but they were actually taken off the air in what was called the rural perch because television executives basically said, it's not a question of ratings.
We don't want to appeal to this market.
We don't want to make shows for these people.
We don't want to give these guys any kind of positive representation.
We just want them out.
And even though there are far more channels now, even though there's far more media now, even though in theory anyone can make their own TV shows and maybe with AI you'll see that open up a bit, although I think it would be regulated to prevent that.
You only see media.
Doubling down with these kinds of ideological agendas.
And of course, we see this even going into real world history where white historical characters are race swapped to be black or gay or whatever else to make sure that whites have no sense of their own identity.
I mean, the latest example, of course, is the BBC, which is government media, state media.
They're doing a series on the Battle of Hastings.
And of course, now all the people at the Battle of Hastings are black.
Because obviously we can't have a representation of Anglo-Saxons.
And furthermore, they don't even, you're not even allowed to use the term Anglo-Saxons anymore.
Yeah.
No, we talked about the BBC and that mandate, which it's been up for a couple of years.
And of course, if you watch Netflix, it's, it's one of the great things about the Tom Brady roast was one of the comedians basically just made fun of Netflix for having You know, the diversity points and lesbian and gay and making sure we have the correct number of blacks.
And I think you actually made a reference to the race swapping that goes on there.
And again, we're not supposed to laugh at this stuff.
And on one of the biggest specials of the year, they're making fun of it.
And I think that's very important to look at a comedic level of, you know, we've got to be able to poke fun at this and we have to be able to articulate it in a way that, hey, guys, listen, this isn't normal because Again, your average person doesn't think about this stuff as much as we do.
They don't, you know, they're okay with watching a TV show as long as they're entertained, whether it be a movie or not, they're not going to think too deeply about it.
And, you know, there has to be a form, there has to be a way to say, well, why exactly are they changing the race of this historical figure?
Why are they making Achilles who, and Homer's You know, in Homer's Odyssey and in the Iliad, he's mentioned having the blondest of blonde hair.
Why is he a black guy in this Netflix special?
You know, it's important to be able to talk about that.
And that's one of the reasons why it's so important that American Resent exists to write these counter narratives.
And that's, you know, people get mad.
They're like, oh, why do you guys talk about pop culture?
Hey, guess what?
That's pretty much the currency of how friendships exist in your average community.
That's what people talk about.
That's pretty much all that connects people is professional sports, collegiate sports, and, you know, your water cooler talk of the TV show that you used to watch.
And, you know, it's not like we're all watching the same shows anymore.
Like when, uh, you know, when you and I were growing up, it was what TGI Friday and I guess Friends and Seinfeld.
Um, and that kind of crap, that's what people talk about.
That's how people connect.
And I think that's one of our great, um, that's one of the great things about what's happening now with, of course, Elon Musk's, uh, Really riding the ship with Twitter.
I mean, if it's to believed, aren't there more new users on that platform than any other social media platform?
Even though there are, of course, the attempts by media matters and left-wing NGOs to ensure that there aren't corporate dollars flowing into the coffers.
But it's very important that the right continue to interact and do as much as they can to spread our ideas.
Because otherwise, how are people going to hear them?
You can't find AR, you can't find V-Dare, you can't find most of the sites anymore on Google, because Google, from a search engine standpoint, is just terrible at this point.
You can't even find any of your articles if you type in Gregory Hood Amren, in a lot of ways.
I don't know if you've ever tried to do that, some of the stuff you've written.
Oh, a lot of my stuff from Radix and stuff, way back when, it's just completely gone.
This is one of the things, is that so much of what you write, I think Peter Brimlow has talked about this, and Tucker even talked about this in his book, his compilation of columns.
I mean, so much of what you write about, and so much of what you focus on week to week, has no real lasting importance.
And you're trying to draw greater lessons from news cycles that are going to be forgotten pretty quickly.
So it's not the kind of thing that hurts too much.
I mean, I'd like to get that stuff back if possible.
It's not the end of the world, but I think the difference in terms of what happened over this last weekend is this is something they're going to be talking about for a very long time.
And certainly the optics are very important.
Trump is a natural showman.
I think he under, and people say like, Oh, well, you know, he's endangering people by, by doing that.
And you shouldn't have done that.
If you notice when they were doing the, when they had them kind of pinned to the ground and they were discussing What they're supposed to do and everything else.
And of course, the one woman agent was panicking saying, where do we go?
Where do we go?
Where do we go?
What do we do?
So no surprise there.
Again, comedic relief.
Yeah, right.
But one of the things they said before they stood him up and moved him out of there is they said the shooter's down.
So the threat was passed when he did that to the crowd and he was surrounded by people saying that.
So even though he was probably in shock, at least initially, He was hearing that.
It's not like there were still inactive shooters zeroed in on him or whatever else.
The threat was done.
And I think that the presence of mind to do that, the presence of mind to do that to the crowd, because you have to think of how different this would be had he not done that.
Because had it missed, I think the conspiracy theories would be a lot greater.
And they'd be saying, oh, you know, he set up the whole thing to make himself look courageous.
I'm not even going to get into what would happen if he had hit, but had he not had the presence of mind to raise his fist and whatever else, they'd be screaming at him that he was a coward.
I mean, let's not forget something that you bring up all the time, which is in the riots in 2020, the thing that they, the same people who think January 6th was the worst thing ever don't have forgotten even happened when they basically drove him into the emergency bunker beneath the White House.
And What did everybody do?
What did the media do?
Did they say, oh, this is an attack on our democracy?
Oh, this is an attack on our sacred symbols?
No, they made fun of him as a coward.
The contrast is also interesting with January 6th where, I mean, and this is something a
lot of people brought up, if it really was the great attack on the Citadel of Democracy
and everything else, you would think that one person.
In Congress, one of the hundreds of people would have the courage, or at least just the political sense, to go up to the mob and be like, what are you doing?
Get out of here.
Just go up and confront these people.
You could be surrounded by Capitol Police.
You could do whatever else.
You would think one of them would do that.
If they really believed any of their stuff.
But they didn't.
What did they do?
They lay on the ground.
They cried.
They put masks on.
They made little Twitter posts about, oh, I don't know what to do.
And you sort of got, and I think a lot of people sort of subconsciously took this like, these are the people who rule us?
These sniveling cowards?
These fat losers?
I mean, you wouldn't trust these people to lead you out of the woods on like a camping trip or something.
And we're trusting them to lead the country?
It's ridiculous.
Trump, in contrast, I mean, he appealed to something primal when he did that.
I mean, that's what these little moments, that's what leadership is all about.
I mean, it's not quite the same thing.
I mean, this is a wild exaggeration.
I don't want to make people think I'm saying these two situations are equivalent, but of course, you know, it's sort of Napoleonic.
If any of you, any of you wants to shoot your emperor, here I am.
I mean, it was that kind of a thing.
And that is what leadership is.
I'm saying this because I know in a few hours he's going to pick a vice president, and if he hasn't already, and whoever it is, a lot of people are going to be disappointed, and a lot of people are going to be mad, and a lot of people are already saying, well, we have nothing to gain from this, we shouldn't care about it, we should talk about this, that, and the other thing.
I get that.
I mean, again, there's a difference between me and you, Paul.
I'm a white nationalist.
That's what I want.
I want a white homeland, full stop.
I'm not a civic nationalist.
I'm not here to save America.
I'm not here to any of that stuff.
That is what I want.
But I also feel that we've sort of run the experiment in 2020 about what is to be gained by stepping away from Trump and seeing if Biden wins.
What do we get out of that?
And while Amran is not going to endorse anyone one way or the other, I don't think anything was gained from letting the Democrats run the table.
And I think that, especially now, Trump has, even more than in 2016, he means something beyond even simply make America great again.
I mean, this is a man who has basically dominated American politics for a decade.
If he gets elected and he lives through the end of his term, I mean, that's what, 15 years of being basically the main character of the most powerful nation on the planet for 15 years?
And that's why his vice presidential pick is so great.
Again, I know he's not going to be, I think that whoever this is, after the Pence mistake, you have to get somebody who can be the heir apparent, you know, because we don't live in a monarchy where he could.
Where the sun takes over.
I'm not disagreeing with that.
Listen, it's either that or the world where the franchise is earned through... We're all trying to meme Barron into becoming Augustus.
Nobody knows anything about the poor kid.
You have to think about what Eric and Don and Barron are probably thinking.
They don't have it.
There's just something...
There's something in politics and show business and, and I don't even know, military leadership.
I mean, there's just a, there's just an it, right?
And Don Jr.
just doesn't have it.
I mean, what?
Gavin Newsom's, like, ex?
I mean, this is ridiculous.
It's not, he just doesn't have the charisma.
He doesn't have the, that, that special something.
And Eric neither.
And I think they're, you know, they're both good.
I don't think they're bad guys.
I don't think they, Agreed.
Agreed.
What I'm saying is I think that that's who you have to think about for the candidate.
is going to be the literal heir.
I mean, I think he's just going to always be part of the supporting cast, you know what
I mean?
Agreed.
Agreed.
What I'm saying is I think that that's who you have to think about for the candidate.
I'm just saying what they're thinking about, knowing that their dad stands between them,
because again, they, these investigations won't stop.
You know, if the left is able to somehow find another judge who will be like, oh, well, we'll, yeah, we'll go ahead and hear this.
We'll go ahead and allow this lawsuit to go forward against the Trump family.
I mean, to bankrupt the Trump family for good and to destroy the Trump, Eric and Don.
Yeah, no, I agree with totally what you're saying.
That's why I'm saying this pick is so vital.
for, hey, guess what, Trump's only got one term left, according to the Constitution right now,
and who in 2028 will take over.
And I've told you, I wish it would be DeSantis, because I want a fighter who has a young family.
I think that that's something that's gonna be endearing to Americans, unfortunately, who can vote,
and who wanna see someone that they like.
And with J.D. Vance, I believe he has an interracial family, correct?
Yes, he does.
Okay, okay.
I mean, people... J.D.
Vance is sort of the... I hate talking about families and getting into it like this, but he's sort of the consultant version of what you think a heartland American candidate should be.
You know what I mean?
You have Hillbilly LG, the movie they made about his life.
He won in Ohio, where Blake Masters lost.
I mean, there were two big, like, Peter Thiel candidates.
It was Masters and Vance.
And Vance won.
Of course, Ohio is now... I mean, it's remarkable how Florida, Iowa, and Ohio, all of which were swing states, archetypal swing states, not that long ago, are now solid red states.
And Ohio, we can safely say, is going to go for Trump, and Vance is...
He's, he seems like a good heartland champion if you're somebody who watches Fox News.
If you're somebody who's hoping that Trump is going to be a more revolutionary alternative, that he's going to push things a lot farther, Vance is not your guy.
But then again, you know, we'll see.
I just don't think that, I think he's better than Pence, certainly.
But I think that, I think that the one thing which needs to not be lost in all of this, because we need to wrap this up here.
Trump has become a myth, and certainly the prosecutions and the lawfare and everything that's been said against him, he's become, I don't even know, I mean he's easily the most influential American in the last 25 years, certainly in my lifetime.
Agreed.
They're going to be talking about him forever.
If he can win, I mean I love happy cannon, but If Trump wins this year, I mean, Pappy Cannon is wrong.
The greatest comeback is no longer Richard Nixon.
The greatest comeback is Donald Trump.
Because nobody would have figured after January 6th that he still had a future and maybe his best years are ahead.
And here's the thing.
If I could, and the cover of that book will be him raising his fist.
Yeah, right.
With the American flag in the background.
I love the guy.
I'll never forget, I mean, to this day, one of the greatest nights of my life was 2016, the election night victory, which you and I both remember well, but at the same time, we are all going into this and nobody should have had any illusions.
In 2016, you could really be forgiven for thinking he was about to change everything.
Now he really is just the Republican front runner and he has changed the party in important and significant ways, but the idea that If he gets elected, we win, or that there are these messianic aspirations or expectations that he's going to fulfill.
I think you're really kidding yourself if you believe that.
All that said, I also think that if he doesn't get elected that that somehow means People will get radicalized and then we automatically get to win.
I think that's mistaken also.
Sometimes you just lose.
Sometimes you just get stamped out of history.
And the fact is that's probably, in terms of just objective political reality, that's the most likely alternative unless we get our act together.
I mean, again, I want to end with this and I'll let you close it.
There is a time limit to all this.
There does come a point where the demographics change so much that we're essentially just lost, that we become like the Afrikaners in South Africa, where you're basically dispossessed and the only homeland you have.
And we can't even go back to Europe.
Because the same thing is happening there.
I mean, you always see these migrants being like, oh, go back to Europe.
We can't go to Europe because they would follow us.
Wherever we go, they're going to hunt us down, raising a fist in one hand and begging for soup with the other, because this is all they can do.
It's the only thing they're capable of.
And until we get this albatross off our back forever, we're always going to be dealing with this.
But all that said, and I want to end on a kind of hopeful note here, God, I mean, it is just incredible.
On the one hand, it's not Lost in all the memes and the jokes and everything else is the fact that you've got this poor family in Pennsylvania that basically had their life destroyed and you just have the absolute scum of the earth who think it's the funniest thing imaginable because a good man was killed because he had the temerity to go to a Donald Trump rally and that's worthy of death according to the great and the good in this disgusting society.
But all that said, I mean, and he went out a hero and I think we should not forget that.
But the way Trump responded and everything else, whatever else you might say about him, Yeah, it's really nice to know that heroism and myth is still possible, even in this degenerate time.
So with that, Paul, I'll let you close it out.
It's like something out of Joseph Campbell, the Hero of a Thousand Faces, and I think that's what so many people want, because we want to believe in America.
A couple weeks ago, we talked about July 4th.
What does it even mean anymore?
I don't think that's a bad thing because there's no way going back.
That's the thing we all have to understand.
We can't go backwards.
We can only move forward in life because if we're not moving forward, we're stagnant.
We're stuck.
And we're going to be having our hope in nostalgia.
And that has to be displaced.
You have to let go of that.
The America that we knew is gone, but that doesn't mean the America that can be is gone.
We have to manifest it.
And that's what Donald Trump represents, in my opinion.
That's what I've always said.
He's just the bridge to the next era of Western civilization, whatever that means.
Because like you said, we can't go to Europe.
You and I would be arrested if we went to Europe.
I mean, Jared Taylor can't even go to England where his ancestors are from because he's banned.
I mean, you and I would be arrested for hate speech for the things we'd say.
We'd have to go be like we were Daniel Day-Lewis and be cobblers hoping to get,
that's what we'd have to do to eat cattle living or just disavow entirely.
And that's not gonna happen.
I mean, because we're here for one purpose and that is we believe in something great.
And I look forward to hopefully going to a Trump rally at some point here where I live.
And seeing and talking to people because they're some of the happiest people
on the planet at these events and in the country.
Yeah, that's one of the last things.
I know I was gonna let you close it, but I just feel like I gotta say this, and then I'll end it here.
One of the big things, and I think this is a big difference between Me and a lot of other people kind of on the alt-right, this and right, whatever else, is even though I come out of the conservative movement, I've never really been a conservative.
I've always been kind of, I don't know, undercover, whatever.
Like, I've always been reading the stuff you're not supposed to be reading, believing the stuff you're not supposed to believe.
I really like normal conservatives.
I just like them as people.
I like going to those meetings.
I like going to the rallies.
I like talking to them.
I like even like the precinct meetings and stuff like that, like the political types.
Like I genuinely like these people.
When I was organizing college campuses, I liked hanging out with those kids and drinking with them and talking with them about their ideas and everything else, like in the college Republicans and everything else.
Like I liked these guys and I think that they're good people and This is why this whole incident just gets me so angry, is that you see just this salt-of-the-earth guy who did everything right, and whose last act was literally defending his family, and he just gets gunned down, and everybody who matters in this society, and by everybody who matters, I mean not us, thinks it is absolutely hilarious.
Thinks that is the funniest thing that ever happened, that he had it coming and not one of them is going to pay a
price for it.
And I want that to change. And we're not going to get anywhere until you
harden your heart to pity and make it change. Because otherwise, we're just going to have to
put up with this again and again and again. And it's never going to stop until those people are
just entirely dispossessed and driven into the dirt. And we're entirely dispossessed and driven.
Yeah, all of us. But I think we need to, this is one of the things about being a
in white identity politics is even if people don't agree with you, even if you don't think
that they fully understand the issues, even if you think they believe silly things once in a while,
they're your people and you got to love them and you got to stand up for them.
And if they're standing with these people, then to some extent we have to stand with them, whatever our misgivings about it.
So with that, I think we'll close it out here.
I'm Gregory Hood.
As always, I'm with Paul Kersey.
Thank you for listening, everyone, and stay safe out there.
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