We have some big elections in both the United Kingdom and in France and France.
It's really one of these cases where Glass half full, glass half empty, because on the one hand, it's the greatest result ever for the National Rally, which used to be the National Front, the Nationalist Party in France, although I don't think any of us have any illusions that Marine Le Pen is the great Joan of Arc savior that the Republic needs so much.
But the flip side is that they won the first round of the legislative elections, and then every other party basically joined forces to turn against them.
France now has a more left-wing government than it's seen probably since, what, the Popular Front of the 1930s.
It was specifically organized as a popular front, meaning all the left-wing parties joining forces against the right.
You even have full-scale Antifa being elected.
Even as the so-called far right is busy trying to moderate itself and kiss up to the press and then in the United Kingdom.
You had the reform party getting what 1314 seats in the Parliament Nigel Farage is now a member of Parliament.
So that's a major white pill for people who have been waiting for a real right to emerge in the United Kingdom or at least something close to it.
The conservatives were absolutely gutted.
I was hoping for zero seats.
Unfortunately, they got more than 100.
But, I mean, now you're facing a labor majority with more than 400 members.
You have independent Muslim candidates.
I believe four of them just got elected.
That's correct.
First thing the LeBron government did is immediately, and I'm not making this up, the new prime minister is actually using emergency powers to let people out of prison.
And of course, they're welcoming in more migrants.
Well, I gotta say on the one hand, it's I mean, there are signs of progress and one could say that it's a major sign of progress in itself that.
The only issue that matters now is immigration and basically there are pro-whites and anti-whites and that's it.
Nobody cares about any of this other stuff.
The left is willing to sacrifice any and all measures to make sure that demographic replacement continues.
I thought one of the greatest revealing quotes of all time was when you had a labor politician who said, who cares if we have to wait longer for the NHS?
We need more migration.
So they're not even bothering to say it's good for the economy.
It's good for the NHS.
It's good for any of these programs that we love so much.
It's just migration and replacing white people is just such a moral imperative in and of itself that anything and everything is justified to keep it going.
You do see a reaction to this, but let's face it.
In both of these cases, you can dress it up however you want.
You can say that there are signs of long-term progress, but Maybe I'm just blackmailed, but I see it as a defeat in both cases.
Am I wrong?
Well, I think you pointed out on Twitter that what is the center right exists to do, but a slow decline.
And I think that's what we saw in France, unfortunately, with the unprecedented first round results.
We talked about it last week.
Talk about a white pill to see what happened.
And again, they got, if memory's correct, didn't 67% of the electorate show up in France?
And the Le Pen's party got 38% of the vote, which was a majority of the plurality, correct?
Yeah, I mean, they did better than just about any other party, even in the second round.
It's just the way the election system is structured.
They didn't get anything close to a majority.
I think they're not even in second.
And the problem is that You see the same sort of thing in the United Kingdom.
I think reform had the third largest number of votes by any party, and of course they've got a fairly negligible amount of MPs.
It's just the way these things are structured, and a lot of people have been pointing this out, and I think this is something we just have to keep in mind.
The only reason we have these systems set up in the West, like the purpose of every single government structure
in every single Western country is to make sure that the so-called far right doesn't come to power.
Correct.
And so you basically have this system where if you have 30% of the country,
if you have 40% of the country, it still doesn't matter.
You aren't allowed to have any kind of role for these people in government.
And as we're going to eventually find out, even in places when you get a solid majority,
then the courts jump in and say, oh, well, actually you're not allowed to do anything.
Actually, it's a violation of the Constitution to enforce immigration laws.
Actually, it's a violation of some human rights treaty that we signed 30 years ago with a bunch of unelected bureaucrats to ask people not to murder each other.
So you have all these systems in place where If the system continues to operate in any way whatsoever, you have a government that's not allowed to govern, you have a nation that is not allowed to recognize itself as a nation, you have a system that is inherently rigged in a far more systemic way than simple election fraud.
I mean, I think that was part of the thing people missed.
In 2020, where they say, oh, well, they broke the rules or they did this than the other thing.
It's like, no, the rules themselves are the fraud.
The way these things are set up, that is itself the greater fraud.
And you see this in both the United Kingdom and France.
In France, you had non-whites taking to the streets saying, we beat you, we're replacing you, just saying very openly, we did this because we hate you.
And this was a victory over France.
And then you see this sort of, Quistlings, these white leftists coming along and saying, well, this is all, we believe this too.
This is a victory over the white French.
In the United Kingdom, they have laws where basically even non-citizens can vote.
And of course, this is what the left is doing here, or trying to do here.
The so-called SAVE Act, which would allow only citizens to vote, and you would have to verify your citizenship before you voted in this country.
The Democrats are completely opposing this.
And Elon Musk, of all people, said anyone who opposes this is a traitor, in all caps.
He's just straight up like Boomer Fed posting now, which is kind of amusing to see.
Then you had these people saying, oh, well, how dare he say this?
He's calling for executing half the country and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, well, what what do you call treason?
Like, what does the word even mean if it doesn't refer to Yeah, I mean, again, that's the whole purpose.
We go back to what, you know, Powell talked about going to look at what England said.
men in the interest of foreigners.
If that's not treason, what else is it?
Yeah.
I mean, again, that's the whole purpose.
We go back to what, uh, Enoch Powell talked about going to look at what
England said, and, you know, I, I, unfortunately I don't see the, um, you
know, the river foaming with blood.
I see it foaming with, uh, just a bunch of Indians.
I saw that statistic that showed the growth in the actual, you know, quote unquote, British population.
And it was just astonishing to see the number of births now for Indians.
And so I think you again, going back to your Twitter account, if you looked at what happened in England today, you would have to ask yourself who in the world won World War Two.
And I think that's one of the saddest things about that.
Just horrifying.
Interesting fighting we saw between the European powers from 1939 to 1945, because in a lot of ways, I think it is sad and indicative of the death of the West.
And to see these elections, there are still people who want to win.
And I believe, again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the only district in France that went against Le Pen's party was Paris.
According to some French that I've spoken to, they all have a saying that Paris is not France, which is basically true.
I mean, if you if you've ever been there, I haven't spent too much time in Paris, but I spent a little time there.
And Paris is a very segregated city in the sense that if you go to certain areas, you're still going to just see white French.
I mean, it's more French than, say, D.C.
or New York is American in many ways.
But.
I mean, there are entire districts that are not part of France in a significant way, and the people there.
Don't consider themselves French.
And people will say like, oh, why don't you want to see Paris?
Why don't you see London?
Why don't you want to see Berlin or a lot of these places?
It's like, for the same reason, I don't want to see East St.
Louis.
Yeah, but this is the funny thing about diversity is that they say, oh, we need diversity.
We need new cultures.
Yeah.
So everywhere you go in the Western world, you see like hopeless, dysfunctional blacks destroying everything.
And it doesn't matter what continent you're on.
No, I mean, exactly.
That's the world we live in now, outside of Budapest and maybe some places in Czechoslovakia and Russia.
And, you know, of course, we all know what happened to Sweden.
Then, of course, going back and trying to push back on you a little bit, we have seen some of these other countries, I believe it was Finland, that finally decided, hey, you know what, we're going to deal both parties, the left and the right, with immigration.
and you are certain to see the pushback there. And so you don't need the right because the left
realized, hey, that's a winning issue for the right. And it is a winning issue for every European
country, unless you've reached that threshold, Mr. Kirkpatrick, Mr. Hood, Kevin, where unfortunately,
democracy is nothing but a racial headcount and whites are a plurality or an increasing minority
where you can just crowd them out by trying to do whatever's necessary to allow newcomers to
the country to vote, which is what we're seeing in the United States now, where I believe Stephen
Miller just tweeted out what the Biden administration is trying to do to get as many illegal aliens.
a registered vote as possible and just to dilute and basically
make citizenship meaningless. And I think that's one of the fundamental questions that the French and the English,
Canadians, the Americans, we should all be asking ourselves and you and I brought it up last week on the July 4th
podcast, what does citizenship in these nations mean anymore?
Except it's just kind of a public relations term for global homo, and you're already part of that, and there's nothing you can do.
There's no escape.
You can wave your flag, but hey, we all know that's not the flag of our country.
We know what the real flag of our country is.
Yeah, and one of the clear things that you see in these elections is that There's always this response of panic and they say, well, you know, the reasonable people have taken charge and everything else.
But I think if you look in with labor and then if you look at what just happened in France, you see the willingness of the so-called moderates and the so-called respectable right to align themselves quite openly with the most extreme left-wing militants.
I mean, let's take Emmanuel Macron, for example.
Presents himself and was presented as sort of almost a center-right technocrat and his main issues were we're going to make these reforms That are going to allow the pension system to continue that we're going to make sure we don't spend ourselves into oblivion We're gonna cut down on all of these social programs.
That was what a lot of these protests against them initially were the left was rallying against him because oh, you know, he's taking money away from the poor and whatever else and and He says that the system needs to continue by making these reforms.
We know that he's actually an evil capitalist and blah blah blah.
Now here we are a couple years later and both these guys are in total alignment.
There is no difference whatsoever between so-called neoliberalism and out-and-out communism.
There is no difference whatsoever between the most retrograde Islamist parties in the United Kingdom and And the gay race communism that you'll see out of labor or something like that.
None of these people have any problems with each other.
They're all part of the same movement.
And this is what I keep trying to say over and over again.
This is really what I was saying.
If we were back at like leaders of institute years ago, it really just does come down to the white race.
Yes or no.
Like there are no other issues because once Politics gets to this point, you see very quickly how they're willing to dispense with everything else.
None of these leftists care about the climate, they don't care about the environment, they don't care about healthcare, they don't care about infrastructure, they don't care about housing, they don't care about purchasing power, they don't care about wages, they don't care about unionization, they don't care about education.
All of these things go out the window if they get in the way of demographic replacement.
And they are quite willing To put up with the worst quality of life as long as they can replace white people.
That's all it is.
That's what the entire system exists to do.
There are no other issues.
There's nothing else to talk about.
And when people say, well, you know, we want to talk about quality of life and whatever else.
The flip side of this is if you're talking about education or housing or crime or infrastructure, you can't talk about these things.
Unless you talk about demographics, not just in terms of sheer numbers, but what I think even a lot of people on the right may not want to talk about, the quality of your population, because people are not equal.
No, no.
And I think that's the, you know, the revolt against egalitarianism that we have to go with, because I can tell you that the population of Baltimore in 2024 is not equal to the Baltimore of 1950, which, of course, they were displaced.
It's not white flight.
It's white people trying to find a community or create new communities that will be safe for their children, their progeny and their posterity.
And it was no longer in Baltimore once the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed.
And again, you've seen just this rinse and repeat for every major city.
I just actually broke down the homicide rate for Milwaukee, and someone pointed out that, gosh, in like the 1950s, Milwaukee was almost 99% white, and now the city is about 38% white, 39% black, because so many people from Chicago, blacks from Chicago, fled there in the 80s and 90s for the generous welfare benefits.
And of course, it's got one of the highest non-fatal fatal shooting rates in the country, especially since George Floyd.
And again, if you replace the population, that's what the Great Replacement is all about.
It's you just see, you basically have an occupying force within a city that the occupying force demographically had nothing to do with building.
And that's, of course, why you then see so many people talk about, wow, the consequences of this white flight are dilapidated buildings.
A loss of, you know, the home started to deteriorate.
You've seen all the great memes of like a home and say 2019 on Zillow and then they show the image or on Google it on Google Earth and you see what it looks like now and the entire neighborhood is abandoned.
It's like, well, that's what demographic change and racial replacement does.
And guess what?
You can do that on a global scale.
I'm sorry on a national scale as well.
And like you said, you go to London, you go to Paris, you go to Berlin, You're not in those places anymore that you see in pictures from the past.
You were in the racial modernity, unfortunately, that mass immigration and the loss of a racial purpose for Europeans has helped manifest and create.
And again, you're right.
That's what these elections show.
It's fundamentally coming down to are you pro-white or are you anti-white?
And if you're anti-white, you're going to do whatever you can to ensure that the pro-white voice is diluted as much as possible.
Those who still believe in the country and that's the white pill from all this is that you know this party did get a lot of votes and what was the book that Jared Taylor wrote the forward to Ghouli on thighs last book?
I think while we while we fight it was not why we fight.
It was like the coming Civil War something.
Oh the coming catastrophe.
Yeah convergence of catastrophe something like that like that.
I mean the thing is I don't My fear is not catastrophe.
My fear is that it just kind of goes on like this forever and things get worse.
I mean, look at a country like Lebanon.
Lebanon, not that long ago, we would consider to be a civilized country and almost a European country, but because of changing, and they even had a government structure where the Christians had certain guaranteed, still do, guaranteed representation in the government and certain protections and everything else.
But because of changing demographics, you just kind of have this endless decline.
And it doesn't matter.
There's no point at which someone's going to step up and say, hey, obviously the country is objectively worse than it was 50 years ago.
We need to do the following things to turn around.
Because you can't.
Because you have constituencies that derive their entire livelihood Basically just from supporting their tribe and they're not able to break out of that and there's no there's no way within the system that can be reformed and I think that's what's happening in a lot of these European countries now particularly with the new kind of coalition that we're finally starting to see and we were Predicting this for a while on the right, but now we're actually starting to see it in countries like Britain.
Let's look at what labor is today labor's biggest problem in this election because everybody knew the Tories were done and Labor's biggest problem was holding on to the Muslim vote because the Muslims were bucking against them because of Gaza.
And you had people like George Galloway who won before, apparently he lost in the latest election, but he had won as an independent candidate running entirely on Gaza, at least with the Muslim constituents.
You had a number of Muslim groups saying, we need to have our own candidates, we need to not be listening to labor, we need not to be taking orders from these white people and these Zionists because they were saying that labor is too pro-Zionist, we need to have our own candidates and everything else.
Labor was basically able to beat them down and keep them on the plantation, as conservative movement rhetoric would be.
And they're always going to be able to.
I mean, that's the thing.
These people aren't really capable of setting up their own parties, at least not yet.
But I believe four of them were actually elected as independents.
And you see these guys taking power.
You see the rallies.
You see their constituencies.
None of these people are British in any way.
And they know they're not British.
If you ask them if you are British, they're going to say no, but we have to pretend they're British and we have to pretend reporters have to pretend that it's a big scandal.
If you say, hey, these people aren't British.
These people have no business being here.
This is what's coming for the entire Western world.
And the question is, can the left hold their coalition of?
I almost swore, but I'm not going to.
It's a family podcast of.
Feminine, gay, degenerate whites who get off on the idea of whites being replaced, along with non-whites who really aren't leftists, but are essentially just nationalists for their own tribe.
Explain that.
That's the coalition.
Stop for one second.
Stop for one second.
Explain that.
I think you call that Kirkpatrick's Law or is that Hood's Law?
No, it's Kirkpatrick's Law.
Basically that everybody is a nationalist for the people they actually like.
Yeah.
And if you look at what leftism as a party, as a coalition is in the West right now, I mean really it's just sort of a coalition of disparate nationalisms that have nothing to do with the core nation.
I mean this is sort of building on what Steve Saylor talked about where he said, The Republican Party is basically the party for normal white people and the Democratic Party is the party for the coalition of the oppressed.
And if you can come up with a new oppressed identity, if you're white, that's how you get in.
I mean, I think that's what's driving a lot of the gay and trans and all the new sexual identities because if you're a white person who's status conscious, who wants to get paid off by the system, you basically have to make up something like this because otherwise it's, it's the only way in.
There's something to be said for the whole bio-Leninism theory.
Have you ever heard this before, this term, bio-Leninism?
Yeah, I have.
Yeah.
I mean, basically, for listeners who aren't familiar with it, it's the idea that flawed life biologically flawed people.
Are going to orient themselves toward the left and because they are capable of being a kind of vanguard for left-wing politics because in a normal orderly society, they have no place.
There's no way for them to succeed.
But as part of a left-wing coalition, they can get set-asides that can exercise power over others.
You can put them into systems and you can guarantee political loyalty.
They're going to be more motivated by grievances than anybody else and you certainly see this in entire industries where once you get people with the pronouns and the bile and the tranny flags, that entire industry gets gutted and everything gets redefined in their image and the quality declines, but it doesn't matter because the people inside could coast on what's been done before and they can rent-seek.
I mean, certainly I think you've seen this with entertainment and video games and things like that.
Well, you also see it in politics.
You also see it in universities.
You also see it in bigger companies.
This is what is really defines the left now because nobody really cares at this point, except for sort of a vague pro forma denunciation of capitalism and rich white men or something like that.
Nobody really cares about workers.
Nobody really cares.
About making sure that native born workers are going to have a better deal than what came before.
In fact, there's a great deal of satisfaction in knowing that these people's living standards are being destroyed.
And this is 1 of the key factors is 1 of the things that you will always see, especially on the very online left is this idea that well.
We're in late stage capitalism and the neoliberals will always align themselves with the quote-unquote fascists and the nationalists to combat the rising far left.
Well, that's in every single case.
We know that's not true.
I mean, what was the last French election except the neoliberals and the communists joining forces and saying, we would rather drag this country into flames and make sure that normal French people have the right to exist?
There's nothing we are not willing to tolerate to make sure that French people are exterminated.
Like you said, they made the deal, the center right, to pull the candidates so it wouldn't dilute the vote because of the way that the system works over there from the standpoint of whoever gets the most votes and stuff gets the most representation.
So absolutely astonishing to see, but you're right.
I mean, it is in a way, and we talked about it last week, the Holaback book.
Am I pronouncing that correctly?
The submission book?
Well, we're Anglos, so we can pronounce it however we want.
Oui, oui, monsieur.
No, I've read the book, and of course, obviously, it's about Islam being able to take over here, as opposed to communism.
But of course, I think that the Islamicists, the Saracens, who probably are still gloating about what happened to Notre Dame back in 2019, which, of course, we still have no idea what happened to That beautiful structure in April of 2019, correct?
There's been no real investigation or anything?
No, of course not.
I remember they were announcing like it was an electoral fire while the fire was still going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And not, yeah.
And then of course didn't, weren't the Obamas like randomly going down the river there and they took a picture of it or something?
Yeah.
I mean, there's all sorts of, you wonder, you wonder how many of this is just kind of conspiracy theory, whatever.
And obviously this is kind of a problem on the right, but, There was a lot of weird stuff going on and the thing is...
When you see the destruction of churches in France, when you see the destruction of churches in Canada, yeah, certainly in Canada, it was just a completely fake blood libel where they said, oh, the Catholic Church for some reason was just randomly exterminating like Indian kids.
And the church, of course, they didn't quite fully apologize, but they did this kind of groveling half apology.
And Trudeau made all these speeches and they set aside millions of dollars and all these random Indian tribes.
Which nine times out of ten, it's just kind of white people like putting on feather headdresses and dancing around trying to get money.
They get a bunch of set-asides.
They did this giant investigation.
Of course, they didn't find any bodies.
None of this happened.
Doesn't matter.
They still said we need to...
Do more to for indigenous communities.
You had a rash of church burnings in Canada, which are still continuing.
And the best part is people were actually advocating laws.
They haven't passed it yet, but saying that it would be illegal to deny the so-called genocide at these residential schools.
So even though there's literally no evidence for it, and even though Basically, everybody admits in America, at least in the American conservative movement, knows that this was made up.
They're just going to outlaw questioning in any way.
And the thing is, I think we really missed the point if we try to say to leftists that, well, look, this didn't happen.
So why are you so militant on it?
Because from a greater point of view, from their mythology, it did happen because In their viewpoint, everything was fine when you had these indigenous groups and then the evil white people came and the fact that they were turned into a minority in their own country was this great injustice and therefore, whatever we have to tell ourselves, however, we structure it.
Saying that this or that historical event happened, the specifics don't really matter, but the larger truth of white villainy is what matters.
And anything we can do to restrict that white villainy is what matters.
And this is the larger principle that empowers all Western politics.
The only threat that anyone can conceive of comes from the right.
The idea of Western states using state power In the defense and in the collective interests of the actual native population, that has to be prevented at all costs because of World War II or something.
And it doesn't matter that the countries that fought World War II on the Allied side outside the Soviets basically would be called fascist today.
It doesn't matter that Even if you're trying to say, well, World War Two was about, you know, defending democracy.
And it's like, well, I mean, all you ended up doing is handing over Eastern Europe to communism, including Poland, which was the whole reason that Britain went into the war to begin with was supposedly to defend the independence of Poland.
And of course, that didn't happen.
That's right.
We just simply brush that aside.
I mean, that to me is one of the, to go back to what I said about this left-wing theory that the neoliberals are always going to join with the far right.
Well, I mean, World War II is kind of a great counterexample to that, where they openly joined with the Soviet Union.
And there's a great book, Stalin's War, which really goes into detail about how FDR really went out of his way to save Stalin, not because of geopolitical calculations, but because he liked Because he thought like that was a good system and because a lot of people in his administration felt the same way.
And we're essentially still governed under the same idea that the only thing that anybody is truly afraid of is normal white people having a government that in some sense looks out for their interests.
That has to be prevented at all costs.
And the fact that we used to have those things and we still are sort of coasting on what we had before, that inheritance is starting to run
out.
And that's what's driving the rise of the so-called far right.
And essentially it is a race against time now, because there is a time limit to this.
At some point, these countries become so non-white that electoral victory is impossible.
And then it's like saying, well, why don't white people just win the elections in South
Africa to fix all the problems?
Because you can't.
Yeah, well, and you go to what's happening with Hungary right now, where, what was it?
What's what's happened where Hungary is still trying to have this coalition because they're being continually fined by the European Union for not bringing in the refugees.
Of course, we saw Poland, unfortunately, go the way of the left.
I believe an election that happened at the end of 2023 or maybe early 2024.
Forgive me for not remembering the exact dates, but you are seeing there are signs of life.
And I think a lot of what is going to happen with Europe Is going to be what happens in the United States in the end of 2024 with the presidential election and to see what happens with our continued funding of Ukraine versus trying to figure out a way to create peace so that that situation finds a way to end amicably.
And as we saw with the French elections, I believe one of the things that the now communist government, the socialist government, whatever you want to call it, they're doubling down on the support for the Ukraine.
for in that effort. And that's, again, that's one of those kind of destabilizing situations.
Just like in 1914, who would have thought that the Balkans, or who would have thought that the
situation in Serbia would have launched everything that it did with the great powers, and that just
fratricidal war.
So you just have to wonder again, I believe that the post-World War II era has to come to an end.
And like you said, we're still living under it.
Uh, it's, it's, you know, the flotsam and jetsam of it, but it's still there.
And we're just kind of waiting to see what's going to happen and which, which way it goes.
And as you correctly noted, As Jared Taylor's correctly noted about the United States, the situation is bleak because I don't think, as he stated, all of it can be saved.
But the question is, do we have enough individuals who collectively want to save something?
And I think that's what the French election shows.
The British election is an Anglo-Saxon.
Why would you vote for the Tories?
How many years were they in power and they did nothing?
Mr. Hood?
Basically like 13 years.
Just astonishing.
Yeah.
I mean, the thing that really is shocking about it, and this raises fundamental questions
about what's really going on behind the scenes, because in this case you see people acting
so dramatically against their own self-interest, against their own political survival.
I mean the very first I don't know if you remember this from from the LA days But the very first lecture I ever heard on politics was something called the real nature of politics by this political consultant yeah, one of the things that he said was He used this metaphor with politics as life and death and he said for a politician getting elected as staying in office his life losing office is death and Things like pleasure and pain are essentially just lead ups to those two existential states.
And so losing office is the thing they want to prevent at all costs.
And because of that, you as a voter, you as somebody who can build a coalition, you as the head of an organization are able to exercise leverage and power against these guys and get them to do what you want.
And that's basically how democracy works.
Well, the problem with this is that when you look at the Tories, It's not an accident that this electoral wipeout happened.
It's people have been talking about it for years.
And you saw when Boris Johnson won, where they cracked into labor territory in the north, where they broke the so-called red wall, he ran on immigration.
He ran on national populism.
It may not have gone as far as a lot of us had wanted, but it was definitely a kind of
soft civic nationalism, let's call it, and certainly would include some immigration restriction.
And then they get into office and what do they do?
It's not that they don't do anything.
It's that they do the exact opposite of what they said they would do.
And then when the election rolls around, first of all, he was too much for them.
They get rid of Johnson.
They get rid of trust.
And then you got Rishi Sunak, who nobody voted for, for prime minister.
His wife is not even British.
And this isn't me just saying like, well, I mean, he's not British, but even in the paper citizen point of view, his wife's not British.
I mean, there's no way you can regard this as anything other than a colonizing force.
But he gets in there, he doesn't do anything, and yet when the election rolls around, they're saying, well, labor is going to increase immigration.
Well, the conservatives are the ones who are responsible for the demographic transformation of the island.
They were far worse than Tony Blair.
Tony Blair kicked the door down, but the conservatives are the ones who really did it.
And at every stage for years, for more than a decade, They would put out statements saying, we are going to reduce immigration.
We are even going to reduce it to this level of people.
This is the exact number.
And then what do they do?
They get in there and they do the exact opposite.
They increase it beyond anybody's imagination.
And what ends up happening?
Not only do their own voters turn against them.
Not only does reform come along and take a huge chunk of them, not only does labor start winning in all these places because they provided massive demographic reinforcements to all these people, but none of this changes what the Tories do.
So, at some level, they don't even care.
Forget, like, principle or patriotism or any of this kind of stuff.
I said patriotism because we're talking about British elections, so it's patriotism, not patriotism.
Forget all of that kind of stuff.
They don't even care about staying in office.
No.
They don't even have the self-interest that comes with basic political consciousness.
So clearly there's something else going on here.
Yeah, you know, it's, I mean, is it that whole situation just like in our country where the goal is to For Republicans, it's like you said, to lose with grace, to not be seen as the boogeyman, as we saw Paul Ryan try and get a job with Fox News, get a job with K Street.
I can't remember the Ohio congressman who was at one point, was it Boehner?
Was it John Boehner who was Speaker of the House?
Yeah, John Boehner, of course.
You know, all he did was cry whenever somebody would come along.
His daughter marries, like, some Jamaican weed dealer or whatever the heck it is, some black.
then I think he's a lobbyist for like marijuana legalization or something.
He's a lobbyist for the cannabis industry, which as we've seen, one of the beautiful things is
as more and more states have actually legalized cannabis, they've had to backtrack.
I think that's one of the fascinating things about democracy.
I know I'm deviating here, but I think this is important to point out that just why democracy must end is because we all know what's going to happen when this stuff is legalized.
And Washington state of all states basically is trying to backtrack on all the things that they did when they allowed this to be voted upon by the citizenry.
And I think that's one of the great things about the world we live in now.
Is we were trying to do all of these things.
And the one thing that you and I care about the most, we've tried multiculturalism, we've tried diversity, we've tried universal suffrage, we've tried to give the franchise to everyone by undoing what our founding fathers wanted to do.
You know, I fly the Betsy Ross flag outside of my house, because, in my opinion, that symbolizes the United States, the real United States, the core United States more than any, because what was it that the first Congress did, or the second Congress did back in 1790, even before the Bill of Rights was ratified, ladies and gentlemen, the Naturalization Act of 1790 was passed.
Yes, go back and look at the dates.
The Bill of Rights did not exist before our Founding Fathers stated who could be citizens.
And I think that's that's the question we're going to have to go back to.
But going back to Republicans and whatnot about their failures and about their just continued the malaise that we see again, I think the goal is to try and be rewarded to get the pat on the head and to get that job within corporate America in some way.
So then they get that respect.
I mean, how many people do you and I know like that who we would engage in conversations with?
And it wasn't like they would be open to our ideas.
They knew our ideas.
But at the same time, their goal was to move ahead and go work for some nonprofit and increase their salary 10 percent, if that.
But they thought that if they went from one seemingly icky nonprofit to one that was less icky, that they would get that notoriety and they get that they get that dopamine hit when they're linked in.
Again, at the same time, I go back to what you said about Elon Musk's tweet about treason and traitors, and I love the fact that that is coming into our vernacular, that this is an idea that's now coming, because, you know, Elon Musk has a vision for the future, and until he realizes that there's a racial component to that, again, you know this, I know this, one of his favorite movies is Idiocracy.
And he's pointed out that the first 10 minutes of that movie are the most important for identifying his philosophy and his moral outlook on life, that there are people who have more intelligence and they're not having enough kids.
There are people who are having more kids who don't have the same level of intelligence as those who don't.
And that's a catastrophe for the country.
That's a catastrophe for the world.
And that goes back to Saylor's most important graph of the growth of the African population versus the growth of the European population.
And I think that is where we're, you know, at some point, you're going to see one nation stand up.
And the question is, is it already too late with the United States to declare war immediately on that nation?
Probably yes.
And, you know, I mean, switching gears, Kevin, I just want to ask you about that new republic.
I think this is what we saw in France that oh my gosh we have this party where it was founded by by Jean-Marie Le Pen and you know there's still that connotation that connection to that and now you have one of the oldest periodicals in the United States Basically showcasing President Trump, Donald J. Trump, as Adolf Hitler and the rise of the American fascism.
I'm just curious what your thoughts were on that.
Well, it's the same.
One of the better books that's been written in recent years was The Return of the Stronghards by R. R. Reno, and he talked about how after World War II, essentially, it's been retconned as it was sort of a war against ourselves.
It was a war against patriotism.
It was a war against traditional religion.
It was a war against, certainly, racial consciousness, which is something that just about all the Allied powers even had and retained for some time.
You know, for example, and you have this kind of pop history, which just gets a lot of the basic details wrong.
So, for example, Man in the High Castle, you had this kind of idea that while the segregation of the South was Somehow sympathetic to Nazism say or you saw that like the Wolfenstein games and things like that Well, actually the the area of the country that was the most pro-war in the lead-up to World War two was the South And a lot of it comes from this rather tragic Anglo-German divide and the most consciously Anglo-Saxon region of the country was the South and it's not surprising that they were the most pro-British one of the things that
He gets wrong, I think, and I reviewed this for Amran and also for Vidar, I think, was that the only thing he can come up with for like what we do about, because he goes through and you see this from conservatives all the time.
He writes about all the problems.
He writes about the defeatism.
He writes about the self-loathing.
He writes about the roots of all these ideas with multiculturalism and anti-whiteness and everything else.
But then what do we do about it?
And it's like this vague Christian religiosity where it's like, oh, we need to like turn back to God or something.
And it's like, well, who's God and defined by whom?
I mean, Joe Biden.
Talks all the time about how he's a faithful Catholic.
So does Nancy Pelosi.
If you look at the U.S.
Conference of Catholic Bishops, if you look at the leaders of all these Protestant mainline churches that for most of American history defined American identity and American religion, even if you look at the heads of a lot of the so-called conservative groups.
So, for example, the head of the Southern Baptist Convention's public outreach arm, Is the reason that that recent transgender shooters
manifesto, which basically explained it as an anti white hate crime. It's his lobbying that ensures that that's
never going to be made public. Yeah, because the way they define it is we don't win in the earth.
It's actually wrong to do anything in defense of your own interests here.
Our job is to basically be winsome and take the hits over and over again.
Turn the other cheek as I define it, which basically just means lose over and over again, which doesn't mean lose for me.
I get to be published in the New York Times and make a lot of money, but it means that you lose because that's what my religion demands of you.
I mean, this is not a helpful suggestion, just this vague, wishy-washy Christian religiosity.
He doesn't even have the guts to say like this denomination, you know, like that this denomination has a right and the others are wrong.
So the only thing that I think really is an effective counter to this, and I hate to just keep banging this drummer over and over again, but eventually you do come back to white identity, and I would say you come back to white nationalism, meaning And I define white nationalism as being white, your racial identity as a white person is more significant, more meaningful than whatever your civic identity is.
Because the people who define that civic identity, i.e.
the people in charge of these governments, don't care about that anymore.
They don't even care about citizenship status.
And the idea that, well, well, American, French, and British, and whatever else, it's like, okay, but the people who run those countries don't think those names have any significance anymore.
And non-citizens are more American, more French, more British, more German than you are, who have lived here for centuries.
What does matter?
What does have significance?
What is an effective encounter?
White identity.
That's the only way this stuff gets turned back.
And we keep playing these sorts of Bob and weave games where we're going to talk about everything besides that and think that will somehow trick the left into letting us win.
And it doesn't work that way.
And it's never going to work that way.
And if you look at the new Republican cover of Trump as Hitler, I mean, this is sort of the same thing where there's nothing that Trump is advocating that can be called.
Pro white as such.
I mean at best the opposition to anti white discrimination, but the sorts of things that he talks about in terms of Even immigration policy or his other policies, all of these things are defined in terms of, this is what's best for Americans of all races, and he's much more willing to speak in defense of blacks as a group, Hispanics as a group, Asians as a group, than he is to speak in defense of whites as a group.
He's completely unwilling to speak of whites as a group.
Tucker Carlson is completely unwilling to speak of whites as a group.
All of these people reject the idea of white identity as legitimate.
Nigel Farage, in one of his more recent speeches, did the stupid boomer posting about, oh, I don't care about what race you are and everything else.
Well, you know what?
You should care.
And in fact, you should care about that more than anything, because it's the only thing that really matters in politics in a multiracial society.
And everybody else gets that.
Yeah, you know, it's funny about Tucker Carlson.
There's a pretty famous video of him going around where he's in Australia and he's being interviewed and he talks about how He's asked a question about the Great Replacement and about whites, and he then tries to use some mental gymnastics and mental jiu-jitsu to say, well, I never talked about white people being replaced.
It's just, you know, the Great Replacement.
And it's it goes back to the girl, Eva von, we talked about last week, that beautiful blonde who said, hey, listen, at CPAC in Hungary, she said, the Great Replacement is happening.
The European population is being replaced.
This is the most significant issue of our time.
And it is.
And one of the reasons why Tucker has grown such a following is because he's played footsie.
He's you know, he's given that issue.
He's played with it.
He's, he's, he's again, he's played as he's, he's been as close as possible to coming out and talking about it.
But then again, he'll, he'll just tell leftist media.
No, no, I never said that.
Show me where I've said that.
Prove me where I've said that.
Yeah.
And he starts saying these things like, oh, well I'm speaking in defense of native born blacks too and everything else.
It's like the native born blacks don't care.
They don't care if you look at the polls on how they feel about immigration.
And the reason is because they accurately see immigration as demographic reinforcements to vote for policies to take money away from white people.
And people say things like, oh, yeah, but it's costing them jobs and it's costing them wages.
Do you think they care about jobs or wages?
What they want are government programs.
As far as collective Black political consciousness goes in this country.
There are two issues and only two issues.
One, they want to commit crimes and get away with it.
Two, they want white people to give them money so they don't have to work.
That's it.
They don't want jobs.
They don't want strong economies.
They don't want safe neighborhoods.
They don't want good schools.
These things have no meaning to them whatsoever.
And you could say, well, I know a guy and here's a guy in the Republican Party.
Okay, fine.
Yeah.
Exceptions can be made and blah, blah, blah.
Find me a politician who will run in a mostly black constituency.
And again, there are entire electoral districts carved out by the Supreme Court down to the precinct level of what's included and what's not, specifically so blacks get their own collective voice in Congress.
We have specifically designated race conscious districts in this country set aside for blacks.
And what do those Congressmen want, they want handouts and they want criminals to be treated well.
That's it.
All the rest of it is nonsense.
And if you don't like that, the issue is not with me.
The issue is not with whites.
The issue is not with white nationalists.
The issue is with everybody else who doesn't play by your stupid moral precepts.
This John Rawls idea that, you know, we're all individuals and we shouldn't even consider What kind of a society we live under because we should we should live in this veil of ignorance where everything has to be rigged so you can make up your own identity and figure out your own thing.
None of this is true.
And I think now we're at a point where I don't think anybody believes it's true.
I don't think anybody truly believes that immigration is good.
For the existing countries.
It's revenge for a past.
It's revenge for what was accomplished before.
It's because it makes schools worse.
Because it makes healthcare worse.
Because it makes neighborhoods worse.
Because it makes crime worse.
That's why they favor these things.
If migrants actually made Britain better, they would be sinking the boats.
They'd be televising it.
Journalists would be applauding, and everybody in the university would be holding demonstrations saying how great this is.
I mean, you don't have to tell me that leftists don't have a certain amount of bloodlust when you consider the kinds of things they protest in support of.
It's not that they're afraid of violence, or that they're wimps, or something like that, that these conservatives want to pretend.
It's that they actively think it's a good thing that Western European countries are being destroyed.
And they think it's a good thing that Canada's destroyed, and that America's destroyed.
That is what they want.
It's spite, as you've always said.
Yeah, and these endless games about, well, we can't talk about white identity, and we've got to appeal to a common good.
There is no common good.
They don't believe in a common good.
They don't want a common good.
And I'll even go further.
If you had a program that actively made life better for these communities, they would reject it.
And we know this because that's already happened.
Fundamentally, the people who face the cost of criminal conduct in this country from blacks are other blacks.
We always hear this from Antifa and stuff.
Where they say, well, you know, most crime happens within racial groups.
That is true.
Which means that the people who are most often victimized by black criminals are other blacks.
How does the black community respond?
With love and devotion to the black criminals.
You could rescue a baby from a burning building, and as you're running out the door, cure cancer.
And you will never get the selfless love and devotion that blacks will shower upon a murderer who killed a black kid.
That is that is the exemplar of what they want.
And if you look at what's happening with politics on a larger scale, it is because these neighborhoods are being destroyed that actually political power is being fortified for these groups.
I mean, we've talked about this in the past that Crime and property destruction and poor public services, these are a price blacks seem willing to pay because it protects political power in their communities, if you can even call them communities.
And if you look at somebody like Rudy Giuliani, who probably did more to save black lives in New York City with his crime fighting policies than anybody else, how was he rewarded?
He was rewarded with scorn and hatred.
Trump probably did more for black workers.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Trump did more for blacks in this country economically than just about anybody else.
How was he rewarded?
He was rewarded with them monolithically supporting Biden, which they'll do again this time.
In each one of these cases, we, I think there's almost a kind of the liberal or the, uh, the liberals really are the real racists.
And by liberals, I mean, actually the liberals within the Republican party.
Part of it is because whites just can't.
They can't conceive that other groups care about different things than we do.
And white conservatives are the worst at this because they don't understand that other people might think there's something more important than safe neighborhoods or high paying jobs or any of these kinds of things that they like.
And so.
They just sort of assume that blacks and Hispanics and Asians want the same things that a suburban white voter does, and it's just not true.
I mean, in a way, being a quote-unquote racist actually allows you to understand people better because you understand, hey, these people aren't like us, and you need to look at what they want as expressed in their own words and in their own behavior, not in this made-up model where Now imagine the entire world was a 130 IQ white person.
How would we define a political system that predicts how they would act?
Well, not everybody in the world is a 130 white person.
130 IQ white person.
Yeah.
No, I mean, again, it's, this is all, I mean, it all comes down to like, like we've talked about less and where we're talking about the elections in France, we're talking about the elections and, and, um, In England, and we all know there's a big election coming up in the United States, which we're not endorsing.
We're not candidates or anything.
We're just simply talking about the ramifications, what they'll be.
And really, it only comes down to a few states mattering and looking at the way that Democrats, Republicans are spending, looking at the way that nonprofits and the political action committees, the PACs are spending.
It's astonishing to see left PACs, just trouncing right leaning PACs in the states
that matter.
Again, I'm talking about Georgia and North Carolina, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania,
Michigan.
These are the states that, and Pennsylvania, these are the states that are going to matter.
And the left is spending vast amounts of money.
And you forget how, and I don't want to sound disingenuous here, but your average voter, your average individual doesn't pay attention to politics the way that someone listening to this podcast does.
They are much more interested in what's going on on their favorite Netflix show or their favorite sports, their favorite sports team.
And I don't book bribe to them.
I wish I did.
I mean, come on, who wouldn't want to live a life where you don't have to worry about things, where you've made that conscious decision to care more and to move forward up that ladder that Robert Heinlein talks about in Starship Troopers of your moral obligation and duty to something far greater than yourself.
And I think that's something that we all aspire to.
We hope that people would have that concept of citizenism.
If we're going to take it down to that level and break it down.
But where we are now, I mean, what just happened with President Biden granting 300,000 plus Haitians temporary protective status.
So they're going to be distributed all across the country.
Who knows if they're going to be able to vote?
I mean, again, a lot of these states that we talk about, you know, Florida, solidly Republican, right leaning.
But when you start to grant TPS status and you have all these NGOs and left wing PACs trying to register people to vote and I mean, what just happened in Wisconsin where they're going
to allow the boxes to drop off voting and stuff.
I mean, the left is playing to win.
And unfortunately, the center-right party is also playing to win in their view, as you
said, to manage decline and to be able to sit peacefully with access to power or the
presumption of power.
And again, those of us on the far right, those of us who are racially aware, we are the pariahs because we represent the only thing that is a potent opposition to the status quo.
And that's why they hate Hungary.
That's why they hate Slovakia.
That's why they hate a lot that's happening right now.
Again, it's pretty much just our duty, Mr. Hood, to continue to press forward and survive this madness, because it will come to an end.
The question is, as you've worried about, will it just continue to manifest and just slowly grind to an end without any hope of, you know, moving forward in a positive way?
And I believe it will, but time will tell.
Yeah, the last point I want to make, and then I'll let you Finish up is that if you look at what's happening with the rise of reform in Britain as imperfect as it is based on what I just said about Farage, and then you look at the rise of the right in France, you look at the rise of the AFD in Germany and all these places is that.
Clearly, if you take a step back from a long term perspective, the trends are very promising.
The question is, is there ever a point where they actually get to wield power?
Because the great danger is that you're going to fight this unbelievably brutal battle to get into government.
And then once you're actually in government, they either have a failure of will where they don't do anything, or they essentially manage the existing system, manage the decline more effectively than what's happening now.
And the last thing that I want to say is that, is there a danger With Trump here because right now the system is perceived as so illegitimate in this country that some have argued well you get Trump in there and a lot of people who'd be tempted to walk away are going to realign themselves essentially with the American system.
I think there's a bit of truth to that and I think there's A bit of truth to the idea, well, there is no political solution.
The system is unreformable, these types of things.
But the question is, therefore, we do what?
In exchange, you know, if we're going to walk away from the political system, what do we do instead?
And if the answer is listen to podcasts or march around or write, you know, Twitter threads about how everybody is controlled opposition, except for me.
And therefore you should send me money or whatever else.
Okay.
But that doesn't actually like lead to anything.
I mean, at some point, I hate to be simplistic here, but at some point you do actually have to see state power.
And I think if you look at the way the socialists operated a hundred years ago, and to some extent still operate today, as I said, you had the Antifa criminal basically get elected to France.
You had people working both outside and inside the system without ever granting the system explicit legitimacy and that may be the way we have to approach things, but.
There is a danger, of course, that you will be co-opted.
I mean, one of the big things that you could argue from a socialist point of view is that a lot of these parties essentially were co-opted by bourgeois democracy, did not get property nationalized.
But I would respond to that that.
The driving force of the left has always been resentment and spite, and that it was never really about nationalizing property or setting a new economic system.
It was about basically crippling superior life and making society worse for the people they don't like.
And they decided that the better way to do that was to attack on the ground of race and culture than economics.
And that's the situation we're in now.
I think that ultimately we are going to, and we're slowly getting there.
It's happening a lot more slow than people would like, and there is a time limit here.
But I think ultimately it does come down to you have to operate on the grounds of white identity.
You have to operate on the grounds of being explicitly pro-white.
Otherwise, you're just kind of wasting time.
And if we're not willing to say that, if we're not willing to get there, then don't be surprised when you keep getting the same things that you've gotten over and over and over again.
I mean, we're either pro white or you're anti white.
Those are the only issues that matter.
Those are the only two coalitions that exist today.
And in some sense, I think everybody knows who's watching the elections in Britain and France and Germany and soon in the United States of America.
Everybody understands that that's what people are really voting on, even if.
The right wing figures and parties who are on the ballot won't do everything that we want.
So I'll let you finish up.
No, I think you just hit it on the head.
I think you just put it perfectly.
I think that going back to the whole New Republic cover story of the Trump that they fear, I think that left is always going to project their greatest fear possible and what they perceive their enemies to be, even though they've made it quite clear that they're not.
And I'm not saying that the right needs to create a reason for that fear, but we have to want to attain state power and actually use it to the benefit of the people within our state, i.e.
citizens.
But in a multiracial society, what does that even mean?
I mean, how can you benefit everyone when all groups are fighting for a larger piece of the pie?
And that is the problem.
You don't have a nation when you have a Various racial groups fighting, as we've seen in Chicago, where the mass of illegal aliens, you have the black community saying, well, what are you doing for us?
What are you doing for us?
It's not about the city itself.
It's about what are you doing for the black community?
Why are we paying for all these people?
That money should be going to us.
And it's just fascinating to watch because it's like, you know, let them fight.
What does this have to do with us?
What does it have to do with Americans?
We have no stake in this.
We're the ones who are being pilfered and we're the ones who are paying for all these people.
And like you've said, it comes down to that fact.
You use the word white nationalist.
I just use the word American because it is synonymous with white.
It is synonymous with the European.
And as we talked about last week, America basically was at one point what the European Union strived to do.
We were a true melting pot of Europe, both East and West, and the Scandinavian countries.
And I'd like it if we could go back to that.
Who knows?
We'll find out.
You know, nothing is written yet.
Nothing is set in the book of fate.
And I think what's fascinating is it does take time to slog through these institutions and to see, you know, your glass half empty, glass half full analogy.
Kudos to Le Pen's party, because again, it took a massive Deal to stop them from getting a larger share of power.
And I think that's going to embolden a lot of people.
And who knows how many people on the center right who were going to vote for these parties sat out and now are looking at this and they're going to have to live under this As you've stated, a communist, very, very hard left government force that is only going to make life worse for the actual French by doing everything they can to let criminals out, to ensure more Africans come into the country, more illegal aliens, more non-whites.
And that does come down to the question, will white people want to exist?
And I think that is what the left fears the most when that actually comes, when Implicit whiteness becomes explicit.
And that's what the left is doing everything they can to fight.
And that's why you see these type of cover stories where they're like, Oh yeah, Trump is a Nazi.
It's like, really?
This is a guy who did what the, the, the, the, what was his deal in 2020 to try and get the black vote?
I forgot what it was called, but that's, that's your, that's your prototypical Nazi.
I mean, seriously.
Okay.
Whatever.
But no, I think there's a lot to like about what's happened in France.
There's a lot not to like about what's happening in France, but Again, there are still people out there fighting, and that should be encouraging enough at this late stage in the game.
Or, as you and I both hope, in the early stage of a new journey for the Western white people of this world.