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July 4, 2024 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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	Hi, everyone.
	Welcome to View from the Right.
	This is Gregory Hood.
	As always, I'm here with Paul Kersey, and today we're going to be discussing something that may offend quite a few people and certainly bothers me, but it's something that we need to talk about.
	And that is, what are we even celebrating when we talk about Independence Day today?
	What are we even talking about when we talk about the 4th of July?
	Because this is something that we still go through the motions.
	You're still going to see in some towns, you'll see a parade, you'll see fireworks, although a lot of these get cancelled.
	They have money for unlimited NGOs, but usually they say, oh, well, they have budget cuts, so we can't do a 4th of July parade, or, oh, the fireworks are too scary, so we're going to do something else.
	For the rest of this country's history, until quite recently, it was pretty much the biggest day of the year, other than Christmas.
	It was something where the people involved felt they had some kind of a connection, a direct connection, a family connection to the struggles of the past, and that you could talk about our forefathers of the revolution, and somehow it didn't come off as a LARP.
	Now, I would say to the majority of the younger generation, the Fourth of July itself is either meaningless or offensive.
	And we talked a couple of episodes back about Juneteenth, which has also been billed as an Independence Day.
	And I mean, officially in American law, it is called Juneteenth Independence Day and how this is going to be the replacement Independence Day, because the only kind of independence we can really comprehend now is an independence from the past, from tradition, from racism, from The dead hand of patriarchy or these types of things.
	And I think that ultimately the 4th of July is probably trending downwards and they're not even going to go through the motions that much longer.
	What do you think, Paul?
	Wow.
	Independence Day.
	Agreed.
	I think you said something that it used to be for a lot of Americans.
	It was like a second Christmas and it signified sort of that part.
	It's the summer Christmas, right?
	I mean, basically it's an excuse to party during a time when like nothing else is going on.
	Exactly.
	Even though it was the way it played out historically, but it was basically our summer festival.
	It was kind of like our summer solstice festival as a nation.
	That's exactly right.
	It's normally about a week, a week and a half after summer started and my memories of July 4th growing up are just some of my favorite memories.
	You know, you wake up and You'd go to the parade in the city I grew up in, and you'd see all your old neighbors, people you went to church with, people you went to school with.
	There'd be patriotic floats, and then you'd go to the country club, and we'd do all sorts of races, relay races in the pool, and then the great, the penultimate part of the day would be going to the lake and seeing this just absolutely massive fireworks display where people would put their Their quilts and their chairs out and their blankets out days in advance just to stake their spot and talk about social capital.
	There are no fights.
	No one said, hey, that's my spot.
	You got there, you drive your golf cart up and you watch this absolutely just breathtaking fireworks display.
	And it was almost as if everybody was trying to one up the other family with patriotism, with wearing red, white and blue, having American flags.
	And just being immersed in this type of Americana that, I'll be blunt, I went back about four years ago, and it was still like that.
	And it was shocking to see because you just don't see that much anymore.
	And I think that goes back to what we talked about with what Trump represents, is that this is a guy, like it or not, who is an avatar for the old American.
	There is still that hope for that.
	But at the same time, you've got Ilhan Omar out there, In Minnesota, one of her constituents is giving a speech completely in Somali, and they're talking about how, you know, she's elected to represent Somali interests.
	And you can't, you can't have that, even if we're just going to talk about Teddy Roosevelt and his idea of hyphenating Americanism.
	And again, it's we're at a point now where the social fabric has been so disintegrated.
	And yet, there is still that consensus.
	There is still that historic American majority that exists that is That is beaten down and stuff, Mr. Hood.
	But at the same time, I do think Independence Day, there's one reason why they passed the Juneteenth stuff.
	There's one reason why, you know, June was, June just ended.
	It was what, Pride Month?
	A lot more stuff due than the past, by the way.
	Who knows what's going on?
	The zeitgeist is interesting.
	But in my opinion, Independence Day still stands for something because I have the memories and I remember, you know, my parents.
	Yeah, but we're old.
	Trump at the end of the day is positively ancient by historical standards in terms of the types of guys running for office.
	I mean, he's, I think he's older than Reagan or he will be when he takes office.
	And by I mean, he looks spry and quick, but that's only in comparison to Biden.
	And Trump has this kind of old fashioned patriotism.
	Even in the 1980s, you still had patriotism in a place like New York City.
	I mean, one of the things that looks I mean, it looks like something from a lost civilization.
	It looks like something from Rome is after the first Persian Gulf War, the victory parade,
	the ticker tape parade in New York City.
	You could never do that now.
	I mean, it just it just wouldn't be possible because no crowds would show up and it would
	just be marred by protests the whole time.
	And that would be the entire thing.
	And so.
	The big problem that we're facing is not it's not so much that, like the official culture
	is turned against it or the incentives are all wrong or any of these kinds of things.
	It's that the nation itself just doesn't exist anymore.
	I mean, the people are not there.
	And you have, I think, a lot of people, even people like us, who are looking back at the old America.
	I mean, we grew up at a time when the country was still overwhelmingly white.
	Yeah.
	1980s, 1990s.
	And you certainly didn't have anti-white, I mean it was, the rot has been in for a long time, but you didn't have this kind of casual anti-white hatred embedded as the official culture.
	That is what American culture is now, insofar as American culture is that which is directed from the top by
	government, by media, by academia.
	That's what it is.
	The only thing holding the country together is essentially anti-white hatred and a vague
	sense of vengeance against the past.
	And the Republicans kind of trail along obediently, dog tail tucked between its legs, saying,
	well, the founders were evil, but, you know, it's what led to democracy, so we shouldn't
	be too mean about it.
	But I mean, that's the best you can do.
	Now, Trump, I think, still has this kind of old fashioned patriotism.
	You saw shades of that in the June 2020 campaign where, you know, we're not going to tear down
	Mount Rushmore.
	We're going to stand up for patriotism.
	We're going to have the Garden of American Heroes or whatever that thing was going to be.
	But even there, it didn't make any sense because we're also going to have like a bunch of random blacks and civil rights campaigners who all hated America and we're going to celebrate these guys.
	Like, it's incoherent.
	And this is sort of the problem that we're in is that if there's to be any growth forward, it has to be in the name of America, in the name of America first, in the name of American patriotism.
	And this this older national identity, but that's also a ball and chain holding us back because right now when somebody like Joe Biden appeals to it, he appeals to it in the name of what we're not allowed to do these things that we need to do for national survival, like say deport illegals, because that's not what America stands for.
	Now, maybe he's the last one who could do that. Maybe he's like the last Yellowstone-style white
	liberal who can kind of appeal to the old America and still have it make sense. Certainly Kamala
	Harris is going to have a hard time doing that. But I don't know. Ideologically, it's we can't
	move on, and yet we can't let go. And that puts us in a very difficult position as white people.
	As Americans.
	I mean, again, that's the thing, you know.
	That's just it.
	Is there a contradiction at this point between being an American and a white person?
	I mean, that was the thing I wrote after Romney lost re-election, the white nationalist member of the white male Republicans.
	I mean, what was the last sentence?
	It's time to stop being Americans.
	It's time to stop being whites again.
	And the issue is that right now, in the eyes of people who matter, The eyes of people with power, not the online right, not people reading this, unfortunately, not you and I, unfortunately, but in the eyes of people who matter, who have state backing, who have power, who are paid by the work we do because we pay them with our salaries, the only people who are not Americans are actually whites.
	Like being a descendant of the founders or being in the Mayflower stock or descending from the settlers in Jamestown or something like that, that makes you less of an American Then somebody who crawls across the border tomorrow and isn't even a citizen.
	There was a speech where I think I can't even remember the name of the person who was speaking, but I think it was a Somali ambassador or somebody like that.
	And he was speaking in defense of Ilhan Omar and said, you've certainly seen the video on X. It's getting passed around everywhere.
	This is something that just kind of happened.
	They, and he said, you know, Ilhan Omar is not about America.
	It's not about Minnesota.
	It's about Somalia.
	And she's there smiling and nodding and everything else.
	But the thing is that doesn't hurt her.
	And I remember Jane Nordlinger from National Review, who I think is probably the worst writer who has ever lived.
	He said something along the lines when she got elected that, oh, isn't this the most all American thing?
	Like even the people at National Review can't conceive of America other than We welcome in non-whites who hate us, and they disagree with our politics and everything else, and they're probably going to eat us someday.
	But that's what the country is, so therefore it's good.
	And how do you break away from that?
	Because if we don't break away from that, we're sunk.
	In the name of America, you have to turn against America.
	That's the weird position that we're in.
	That's a great point and it's a tough point to have to make because we do have that memory and we do know just what a great history we have.
	I mean, again, I've made the joke before that I love reading the anti-racist books because they basically reinforced my worldview that our country was a heck of a place.
	for the development of a really a European Union.
	I mean, I don't know if you ever thought about that.
	Oh yeah, the true European Union is actually the United States.
	Yeah, if you think about the context of what the United States became, you know, we can
	joke about the Irish, we can joke about the Italians.
	Of course, I think you're both Irish and Italian.
	You can joke about the Swedes, you can joke about the Lithuanians, the Russians, the Anglos,
	the French, whatever.
	But I mean, if you look at what the United States was, and just from our history, from
	the historical standpoint of where the European powers were that tried to colonize, you know,
	the English, the French and the Spanish and everything that's happened.
	I mean, one of the things that's always struck me is that there haven't been more attacks
	on the Spanish, on the Florida flag, Mr. Hood, because, you know, that flag is the one that,
	you know, it's the conquistadors.
	It's the one, you know, what happened in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
	There were two groups of people that were asked to leave Spain.
	We'll get into that, but I'm still shocked that that flag flies over Florida.
	And the thing is, that's one of the beautiful things about- Probably not much longer.
	I mean, the, if you saw the Biden administration just moved to legalize about 300,000 Haitians.
	I mean, that's obviously, you've spoken very highly of Governor DeSantis.
	I mean, and it wasn't that long ago, Florida was a swing state and a very important swing state.
	We all remember the 2000 election and how that all came down to Florida.
	But now it's a reliably red state.
	I mean, I don't think there's any even controversy about whether Trump can beat Biden in Florida.
	So how do you reverse that?
	Well, you just keep importing Haitians until it goes blue.
	And what's funny is if you look at the difference, because they've broken it down by nationality.
	You can find statistics on who the worst performing group by income is.
	And of course, it's Haitians.
	And it's like, yeah, that's why they're being important.
	If they had anything to contribute to the country, if there was anything that they would do to make it better, I mean, they'd be sinking the boats and they'd be airing it on CBS and journalists would all be applauding right after telling us that Joe Biden is smarter than everybody in the country and as sharp as a tack and everything else.
	The the situation that we're in is that We're speaking in the name of a polity.
	And we're speaking in the name of patriotism that the people who actually run it don't share.
	It's like trying to defend, I don't know, the Holy Roman Empire or something when the emperor himself has given up on it and doesn't believe in any of the things that the polity is based on.
	And this is a question that you see over and over again in history.
	It raises certain fundamental problems.
	If you're a traditionalist Catholic in the French Revolution, do you fight for the Republic?
	That's executing priests and drowning people.
	If you are a monarchist, you fight in the name of German nationalism in the 1848 revolution, because back then the nationalists were the liberals.
	If you're a Russian patriot, do you fight for Russia after the Bolshevik takeover?
	Or do you side with the people trying to overthrow the Bolsheviks and bring the Tsar back or bring somebody else back, even though those people are foreigners?
	And in some sense, you're a traitor.
	I mean, this is it's sort of the question of the French aristocrats who left during the revolution and became the exiles were basically spat upon as traitors.
	But in many ways, they were the only ones who remained faithful to their ideals.
	But it is a tough decision because I think all whites are basically in that situation because we're waving a flag Yeah, it's fascinating when you go back and think about 2020.
	to the day symbolizes a polity and a government and the government hates that flag, hates
	the triumphs of that flag.
	And the only people who that government supports are precisely those people who contribute
	nothing and the less you contribute, the more you're valued.
	Yeah, it's fascinating when you go back and think about 2020, we have to go back to that
	because that's that defining moment where it became so clear what the managerial elite,
	what the media, what they really thought about white people, what corporate America, what
	they went along with, with the just billions of dollars promised to Black Lives Matter
	in the name of George Floyd, you know, the sacraments that were paid.
	And, of course, all white people were trying to make indulgences to try and get away from having to be connected with that white guilt, which, of course, you can't.
	You can't.
	You're collectively, as a white person, it doesn't matter.
	There is no ability to remove yourself from that original sin.
	The point, though, being as you think about Where the State Department had the Black Lives Matter flag and then whatever the LGBTQ flag, whatever it was at that point, the transgender flag, I don't even know what it is anymore.
	It's an eyesore.
	It's an embarrassment.
	And I think that in a lot of ways has replaced the flag of the country.
	Like I said, Pride Month in June, a little more subdued than usual, but that's because every month is Pride Month.
	So you don't need to have, you don't need to have a month set aside when every month is manageable.
	Yeah.
	The governor of New York was talking about that.
	It's like, oh, happy pride or something.
	And this is July 1st.
	So it's, it's over, but you know, they're still celebrating it, but that is the official religion.
	I mean, you saw the, I hate to be backward looking or whatever, but there was a, parade, one of these pride parades, the fact that this even exists.
	And who do they have marching in it?
	Well, it's not the Boy Scouts because they're not the Boy Scouts anymore.
	Now they're Scouts of America.
	Yep.
	And they're all marching.
	So you got little kids marching with like the gay flag and the intersectional flag and all these gays dancing around.
	And it's like, yeah, this is what people predicted would happen 20 years ago when they were mocked for it.
	And they were told this would never happen.
	This is crazy.
	This is like a fever dream and everything else.
	And it's like, no, like it had to go this way.
	I mean, ideas always get taken to the logical conclusion.
	But we're not talking so much about sexual morality or anything like that.
	We're talking about racial politics, but that principle remains the same.
	These ideas get taken to their logical conclusion.
	No one, no one at all, is speaking in the name of defending whites as a group with collective interests.
	Even Trump is not doing that.
	The only thing, and I will give him credit for it because it is something, is you actually do have people talking about anti-white discrimination and doing things about it if he takes office.
	So that is something.
	So I don't want to say there's just nothing.
	I'd actually have to stop you there.
	That's beyond something.
	The fact that he gave that interview, I can't remember if it was The Hill or what publication was.
	Did they really, you know, I hate to use the word they because we don't know, that's such a nebulous word, but our enemies are worried about what's happening because you do have the effectiveness of Chris Ruffo and Steve Miller.
	You know, you and I talked about at the God, do I have to say this word now, defunct VDARE book club?
	That's so sad to say, but you know, we talked about Chris Rufio's book being so important and it is.
	Richard Hanania's book is so important because it's about... Incidentally, I should intersperse here and say that we're going to be, or I am going to be restarting a book club.
	It'll just be me.
	It's going to be called Cadre and it's basically going to be not just ideological and practical books, but everything is going to be toward building people into effective activists.
	So it's not just going to be, I'd like to say also Elon Musk just put out an amazing audiobook.
	That was a good book list, yeah.
	He also had Storm of Steel by Younger, didn't he?
	He did have Storm of Steel by Younger, yes he did.
	I think Passage Press has an edition of that.
	Well, Mr. Grove put it out.
	I don't know if passive press bought them or how it works, but there is a good edition of Storm of Steel to buy by Ernst Juncker.
	Really good account of World War One, particularly from the German perspective, but it's really a more universal perspective.
	But the larger point here, and then I mean, maybe this is a good ticking off point.
	If you think about the situation in Germany, there was a politician in Germany from the AFD who just got convicted for using the phrase everything for Germany.
	You are not allowed to use the phrase, everything for Germany.
	Now, why that phrase in particular is offensive, I don't know.
	Maybe there's some connection to some slogan that the Reich used or the Kaiser used or whatever else and they're mad about it and you're not allowed to do that.
	Frankly, I don't care.
	The fact is, it is illegal In any way that matters to be patriotic in Germany if you're German.
	Now, if you're far right for Turkey or something, that's perfectly fine.
	There are plenty of groups you live and get government funding for.
	But you are not allowed to be German and you are not allowed to support your own country and you are not allowed to support your own people.
	And in fact, the case against the AFD is precisely, this is not an exaggeration, prosecutors and media saying that there's something crazy about pretending Yeah.
	that there's something different about actual Germans and their relationship to the German state
	as opposed to other people who live in Germany. You are not allowed to distinguish between those
	two groups. That's anti-democratic. And clearly when you see the current regime in this country's
	immigration policy, they believe the same thing. And it raises a certain question,
	the same one that Samuel Huntington asked, the same one that Tom Tancredo had with his talk show,
	which is who are we? If you say, for example, Joe Biden had posted a thing because they're
	trying to dig out of this disastrous debate. He's He posted something where he said something like, democracy is the essence of who we are.
	Well, then there's no we, because democracy is just, it's just a mechanism.
	And I'm sure the kind of true conservatives out there are saying things like, but we're not a democracy, we're a republic.
	But even if we just roll our eyes at that, the founding fathers hated democracy, so apparently they weren't democratic.
	By democracy and universal suffrage, I mean, most of the people that are held up as heroes now weren't allowed to vote until pretty recent in American history.
	That's right.
	And if we say, who are we?
	If we try to define American history as what our leaders historically were able to accomplish, the victory over the British, the conquest of the continent, The Civil War and the reunification of the country, victory in World War I, the colonial empire that came after the Spanish-American War a little bit before that, World War II, the rise of the superpower status, all of these things, if you look at the way they operated and the reasons why they did these things, for most of the people coming into the country now, those were defeats for them, for their group, for their blood.
	And that is the way they think of it.
	And therefore there's no way to justify or defend American history from the standpoint of the current ideology.
	Which, to put it another way, there's no way to defend America itself.
	So what do you do? You have to defend America as these people who were evil and slave owners and really have, we
	should be embarrassed about.
	But they had this little germ of democracy, this idea that maybe they didn't really believe in, but they used it.
	And American history is about unfolding that principle forever and expanding it to the entire world.
	This is why the same people who hate America become super patriots when it comes to 1861 to 1865 and 1941 to 1945.
	You know, it's funny, you and I both.
	You can't, you can't build on that long term.
	I mean, I don't think the groups that they're trying to build this whole thing on are ever going to regard this country as anything other than a cash cow to be exploited.
	Yeah.
	No, you're right.
	And I think you and I once bonded over talking about a movie that was made for TNT.
	John Milius directed The Rough Riders, and that movie showed how the various Groups in the United States.
	Oh yeah, that was the peak.
	To create the new United States.
	To create the concept of the United States.
	That reconciliation.
	Reconciliation between the North and South.
	You know, the great Confederate general where they're driving the Spanish away.
	And he's like, we got the damn Yankees on the run.
	Everyone's looking at each other.
	Daddy, quit saying that, Daddy.
	But it was great!
	That actually happened too.
	And this is the idea, is that ultimately a country If you look at what is the key institution that makes a nation a nation, at the end of the day, it's usually the army.
	And it's usually the concept of a national army.
	And one could argue that nationalism itself was downstream from military innovations, specifically the Levee en Masse of the French Revolution.
	And that was what spread this idea of nationalism throughout Europe, because now the masses are being engaged In this idea of this is our group and we're against their group, and that's what makes a nation now.
	You could take a step back from that and say, well, maybe this is not such a great thing because, as the leftist will always say, most of the big wars that Europeans fought were against other Europeans.
	But at the same time, there's also this experience of building colonial empires or being the subject of colonial empires.
	If you want to talk about Eastern Europe and what happened to them under the Ottomans, And there are certainly some people who were able to, especially the settler, the so-called settler colonial states like Australia, like us, like Canada, you build a nation essentially out of the wilderness.
	And the formative experience of the country is fighting against non-whites.
	I mean, that's arguably where the very concept of race became popular.
	The fights against the Indians were whites.
	gained a sense of themselves for the first time.
	Now I would say it goes back a lot further.
	The first time you ever hear Europeans in the literature, Europeans referring to themselves as Europeans is accounts of the Battle of Tours.
	Charles Martel fighting off the Muslim invasion of France.
	But in the modern era, it really does kind of come out of the settlement of North America and the experiences with that.
	Now the problem is that The people who run us have decided that that history is something to be ashamed of.
	It's even something that we have to make up stuff about.
	So, for example, I believe today is actually Canada Day.
	This is being recorded on July 1st.
	So it's not just Independence Day coming up for us, but it's Canada Day.
	Canada Day, okay.
	Canada Day, yeah.
	And Canada Day, of course, this is when they set up their structure and built the institutions of their country.
	Well, Canada, until pretty recently, was known as basically being the shock troopers of the British Empire.
	They were, by many accounts, some of the toughest guys in World War I, some of the toughest guys in World War II.
	They were a naval power well into World War II.
	I mean, they were very solid.
	But really, ever since the Red Ensign, their old flag has been taken down, they've remade their entire country's image.
	And instead of being An outpost of the British Empire where the English and the
	French are doing something together and building this country in the wilderness.
	Now it's essentially, I think Trudeau may have actually called it the first post-national state.
	And at this point it's basically a giant real estate scam run by Indians, as far as I can tell.
	Well, Shidao himself is completely unpopular.
	That, of course, Vancouver being a Chinese colony.
	Yeah, right.
	I've never been to Canada.
	But here's the last thing and then I'll shut up.
	I mean, the big thing is the indigenous schools where they said that the Catholic Church was basically just like killing Indians for no reason.
	and burying them in mass graves in the ground and there were churches burned, there are still churches
	No.
	being burned, and apologies from everyone and everyone's going nuts and then of course they do
	a giant investigation. There's all this pressure and there's all this money to find something and
	they still can't find anything. They couldn't even fake something credibly apparently. And churches
	and churches are still burned. But it doesn't make a difference. Nobody's learned anything.
	The myth remains and to this day the only thing anyone's going to remember about this
	is that indigenous schools were killing Indians.
	The fact that it didn't happen means nothing.
	Everybody has to have like some quote-unquote original sin, and it has to be expressed in that language.
	For America, it's black slavery.
	For Canada, it's the treatment of the so-called natives.
	For Australia, it's the treatment of so-called aborigines and all the rest of this.
	There always has to be something, and so what you essentially get If you're a white person in any of our historic homelands is you get an anti-identity and that's the only thing you're allowed to have.
	White identity is mandatory, but it's purely negative.
	And the only question we really have, it's not a question of white identity or non-white identity, civic nationalism or non-civic nationalism, whatever else.
	You're going to have white identity whether you like it or not.
	You already have it.
	The only question is, do you flip it and have a positive one or do you accept your So you can fit in with the coalition of the oppressed
	either by inventing some new sexual identity or faking being member of another race. But of course, white people
	keep the contrary to white privilege. And there's a lot of money and benefits that come with being a member of another
	race. And when white people fake it, they tend to get caught and punished.
	They do what they do unless you are a senator from Massachusetts.
	Yeah, of course.
	She's different.
	Yeah.
	It's fascinating what you just said, though, about the whole Canada situation, because that whole story flourished and proliferated precisely because it made Canada's history look terrible.
	And the just grotesque, even though it was all fake, it doesn't matter because the myth is more important than facts at this point.
	Anything that can make white people look bad, past, present, they're going to ensure that their future is less and less Less and less established, because then you can just ground and pound.
	Uh, white people, especially young white people who are so permeable and, and malleable and just basically be like, Hey, everything is your fault.
	Everything is your fault.
	Everything is your fault.
	Everything is your fault over and over again.
	And then of course, with the burgeoning nonwhite population, that is majority in American K through 12 schools.
	Uh, I think that was from a few years ago.
	I mean, you just think about what they're inculcated with and that's why your question to the point, you know, what does July 4th mean at this point?
	I mean, again, we remember it because there are still some vestiges in our minds of that.
	You know, I go back to that quote from Independence Day, the 1996 movie, where the spaceships arrive and they end up destroying three American cities to start, and then they start destroying more and more cities.
	Atlanta, Philadelphia and Chicago are the second round of cities destroyed.
	Yes, I am a nerd.
	I do remember all this.
	And there's a great line where The Secretary of State, I'm sorry, the Secretary of Defense.
	The Secretary of Defense, yeah.
	He says to President Thomas Whitmore, played by Bill Pullman, he said, sir, if we don't strike soon, there might not be much of an America left to defend, yeah.
	And I think that scene, there are two scenes in that movie that have always struck with me, and that was one of them, because it was like, wow.
	When you think about where we are now, and it's not an alien power that's destroying us, it's our own leadership and our own cowardly.
	leadership that has allowed our country to be, as you said, what just happened with Biden and
	temporary protective status, 300,000 Haitians. There are hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans
	who are also part of TPS, El Salvadorans who are part of TPS.
	There are so many people from other nations that are not just here illegally, but we've
	invited them and given them TPS.
	And you think about just your recollection of going to a Walmart.
	There's a Walmart not far from where I live and I walk around and it's again where I live.
	We haven't been hit with that diversity bomb.
	It's it's fascinating.
	It's it's I'm actually looking forward to July 4th because it's going to be a very big event at the area where I live and I'll be walking around and I'll see a bunch of neighbors.
	They'll be social capital.
	It's going to be great.
	There's going to be a parade, there's going to be bands, there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be patriotic.
	And again, the question that you've asked, what are you patriotic about when your own leadership is just replacing you?
	And I think that's that great question because We saw the French elections of what just happened.
	We talked about this the other day, but I think it's really important to think about how the left and the non-whites came out to protest the election of Marine Le Pen's party.
	And you're looking at these people and you realize we have not, the French, right?
	The French, the French actual people have nothing in common with these people.
	No, no.
	And most of these people aren't even French and don't think of themselves as French.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's the critical thing is that Because a lot of people were saying, you know, well, there's no French flags and someone made some sarcastic comment, look, well, why would they need French flags?
	Look, they're in France.
	Do you think they don't know?
	And it's like, well, no, but your flag is a representative of you and your people and your identity is in some sense bound up in it.
	If you're actually French.
	And if you don't feel that way or if and don't tell me like, oh, well, I'm independent, man.
	I'm not bound up with anything because everybody's waving their own stupid sexual flags and the Palestinian flag and whatever else.
	So clearly somebody even coined this line where I'm James Kirkpatrick still because of the grandfathered in on Twitter there.
	But there's somebody called this Kirkpatrick's Law and I'll claim it, which is that everybody is a nationalist for the group they actually like.
	There are no people who are not nationalists.
	There are no anti-nationalists.
	Everybody's a nationalist for somebody.
	It's just, when they say, oh, well, I'm not a nationalist for X, what they're trying to do is get you to lower your defenses so they can advance the nationalism for the group that they actually feel themselves belonging to.
	Ilhan Omar is a great example.
	Certainly, if you look at something like the ADL, where they, by any definition, they are extreme nationalists for Israel, and they are extreme anti-nationalists for the United States.
	And it's not—people will say, like, well, that's a double standard.
	No, it's not a double standard.
	It's not a double standard that Ilhan Omar is doing.
	It's not a double standard when Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has this weird blood and soil theory about how Hispanics are magically exempt from immigration laws because they're actually the indigenous people of the United States.
	None of these things are a double standard.
	The standard is you are doing what is best for the people that you regard as yours, and that means you're going to advocate universalist principles for everybody else because you know they're stupid, because they're going to make things worse for them, because they're going to lower their defenses so you can gain more for your own group.
	And that is what the problem with America now is that It used to be, and 20 years ago you would hear this from conservatives and Republicans, certainly the George W. Bush administration was like the exemplar of this, that America is a universal nation, that we're just kind of a placeholder for certain universal ideas, and therefore we need to spread them all over the world.
	And to some extent, America was born to die.
	We're meant to sacrifice ourselves for these glorious universal ideas.
	What's that?
	You sound like Lana Del Rey there, buddy.
	That's right.
	Another icon of the hard right.
	But now I think that people don't really believe that's unique to America anymore because you see the same thing with Germany, with France, even with countries like Ireland.
	Where they're defining themselves in these universal principles, even though it's not rooted in their history at all.
	It's just a cancer that's spreading.
	Now, I think it probably started with the United States, or more broadly, it started from kind of an Anglo-liberalism in terms of the institutions that gave it comfort, and certainly there are other constituencies that have been pushing it.
	But I'd say it was probably put forward by British and then American power, but Even then, when America was expanding, and certainly when Britain was expanding, nobody at the top really believed this.
	Even somebody like Lincoln didn't really believe this, when you look at how he defined American identity.
	Jared Taylor, for example, has actually won me around to the idea that Lincoln was trying to send the blacks overseas even after the war.
	I mean, we still need to get talking about the American Colonization Society.
	I think we'll have to do a full episode on that soon.
	Lincoln was shot, what, a couple days after the war ended, and as the Civil War went on, yes, he is working with a situation to try and create a colony.
	I mean, that's kind of the alternate history that You makes you wonder.
	I mean, Lincoln lives, let's just speculate for a moment.
	I'm not going to try to defend this as a historical thing, but I have a larger point here about American identity, which is that if Lincoln lives and he does, he sends them overseas and that's just it for blacks in America as any large scale.
	I mean, he'd go down as like the greatest hero of the white race of all time in terms of like what America would be.
	But the, and if you want to look at, The arguments at the time of the Civil War, because I'm currently working on something about the beginning of the Civil War, and so as a result, I've been reading a lot of the fire eaters and a lot of the arguments in support of slavery as a good thing that people were bringing up at the time.
	And from a white advocacy perspective, and certainly from a white nationalist perspective, you don't agree with it, not for humanitarian reasons, although you can get into that, but it's mostly because they say, well, this The two races are codependent, and we can't be extricated from each other, and it needs to be like this forever, and so our history is just going to be living in a majority black state, trying to keep these people under our heel just forever.
	And from that point of view, a lot of the elements of the North Some of whom came out of the Know Nothing Party, which went into the later Republican Party, which is basically, we are not going to allow blacks to even settle here, which is basically, what was it, Oregon?
	Where they actually had that in the state constitution?
	I'm actually reading that right now.
	One of the fascinating things when you think about the, you know, the Westward Expansion, where basically it was going to be which states would be slave states, which wouldn't, so that you would have proportionate power between the two, between the two, you know, Mason-Dixon line between the South and the North.
	And it was the, you know, Sailor, Steve Sailor calls it the hot potato.
	Now, what do you do with the black population?
	But at the time, we had the answer.
	Oregon had the black exclusion laws, which it was the first state such law took effect in 1844 when the provisional government of Oregon voted to exclude black settlers from Oregon's borders.
	And think about this, you and I grew up playing Oregon Trail, that old game from Microsoft where, you know, you could play it on your TI-83 calculator when you're supposed to be doing schoolwork.
	Exactly.
	You'd basically have whatever girl you liked at the time, she would be your partner in this excursion across the country where you just basically... I would just go hunting.
	I'd kill a lot of buffalo.
	That's not the Westerner's truly one.
	Like, hey, Kevin Costner, you know, suck on this, man.
	Anyways, I'm joking.
	But no, the point is, Oregon already showed you what was going to be done because all of the settlers, they'd experienced the situation.
	They had first-hand knowledge.
	It wasn't theoretical, it was practical.
	And they're looking at what's about to happen.
	with the country on the verge of tearing itself apart.
	I mean, this is 16 years before the election of Lincoln.
	And this is, you know, this is, let's see here, hold on, 14 years before the famous
	Douglas Lincoln debates.
	I think the better question is, what happens if Douglas beats Lincoln?
	And then Lincoln just- Well, Douglas did beat Lincoln, but you're talking about in
	the presidential election.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And or, you know, I think that's the question.
	Or if McClellan, if George McClellan beats Lincoln in 64, I think that's basically, you know, with everything that was going on.
	Again, there's all sorts of hypotheticals.
	The question, the point is, there were people at that time period who knew this was going to And in tears.
	The American Colonization Society, we've talked about it with the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, where they're already said it needs to be renamed.
	No one has pointed out in the articles except for people like us that, hey, well, wait a second.
	This guy wasn't just a bad white dude.
	He was also one of the founding members of the American Colonization Society because he knew this needed to end.
	This problem was something that didn't need to be a burden for his posterity.
	And his posterity, America's posterity, the founding father's posterity, is not African slaves from right. And if if that's the national
	anthem, I mean again in 2020 there were efforts where they tried to get the national anthem
	replaced. We're about that at the time.
	And it's too early for them. So people freaked out and they backtracked, but they never quite
	backtrack. I remember when after Charlottesville when they were talking about removing General
	Lee statues and I think it was on MSNBC, somebody said, well, shouldn't we also get rid of like
	Thomas Jefferson.
	And the host said something along the lines of, well, we're not ready for that yet.
	But clearly, like, we all know where this is going.
	It was Trump who said, once you remove General Lee, Washington's going to be next.
	And it was all the experts and trusted sources who said, no, no, no, that'll never happen.
	And of course it happened, and Trump was right, and everybody else was wrong.
	But with Francis Scott Key, man who wrote the National Anthem, member of the American Colonization Society, if we are to take that as for what it is, he was a white nationalist.
	That's what he was.
	If you believe in sending all the blacks to Liberia because you want America to be for white people, you're a white nationalist.
	That's just a fact.
	If that is the man who wrote the National Anthem, and you look at how people like Biden and the academic and media support structure that is propping up this, you know, senile dinosaur right now, how do you possibly let that stand?
	How does it not become the Black National Anthem, lift every voice and sing?
	How does Independence Day Not be replaced by Juneteenth, because if you're talking about Independence Day, as far as like what it actually was, what you are talking about is something very particular.
	You're talking about one people coming to an awareness of itself, separating itself from another, saying we will not be governed by these people overseas.
	We are going to carve out our own destiny and then marching off in our own direction.
	That's a story that really doesn't have a lot of relevance if you're not an American, as far as the bare facts of what the American Revolution was.
	If you're Cambodian, if you're Nigerian, if you're Indian, none of these things have anything to do with you, except maybe insofar in the sense of this was a successful anti-colonial rebellion, and that may have some relevance to you, but only insofar as tactics.
	I mean, it doesn't have a real sacred meaning to you unless this has something to do with your people.
	But it doesn't have anything to do with most quote-unquote Americans or United Statesians now, because how many people are still sons or daughters of the American Revolution?
	How many people are descended from officers in the Society of the Cincinnati?
	How many people are even descended from Civil War on either side?
	And even those who are, how many of them Reject that entire heritage as something shameful.
	I mean there is one person on the Supreme Court right now, one, who is actually descended, who is actually has any kind of relationship with somebody who was a signer of the Declaration or was a Mayflower stock, and I think it's Kanteji Brown-Jackson, because she married a white guy who basically is Pilgrim stock.
	Somebody, I can't remember what he goes by now, he just changed his handle, but he did a Twitter thread We talked about Biden's administration.
	In response to that earlier question, who are we Samuel Huntington, who was chair of government at Harvard, somebody who I read in grad school, probably like 10 different classes.
	And that's not an exaggeration.
	I mean, he was any topic, whether it's.
	State-military relations in the United States, democratization in Latin America, the way that government operates with the bureaucracy vis-a-vis elected officials.
	I mean, no matter what you're talking about, you're going to deal with Samuel Huntington.
	Samuel Huntington, last book he wrote was Who Are We?, where he attempted to grapple with American identity, and he essentially said that America is fundamentally an Anglo-Protestant That's insane.
	That's insane.
	Anglo-Protestant court expanded beyond that, but that is fundamentally what it is.
	Certainly he was a product of that.
	There was not a single white Protestant in Joe Biden's administration at any high level.
	Not one.
	That's insane.
	Not one.
	And so, and yet, you will still, in the back of every movie,
	in the back of every academic book, in the back of everything that people talk about,
	that is still the privileged class.
	We still have to talk about WASPs as if they're running the show,
	but we're not allowed to talk about who's actually running the show,
	or the groups that actually have more power and influence.
	And part of the real tragedy of all of this is without a ruling cast that feels itself tied to the nation in some way, and this isn't something that just happened in America.
	Certainly, I think it's the case that happened in Great Britain as well.
	You really lose the nation itself.
	I mean, the nation It's a complicated question because on the one hand, the very idea of nationalism is when the masses insert themselves in the politics, which a lot of true conservatives regard by itself as a bad thing.
	But at the same time, it's still also an aristocratic thing because there has to be, in any society, there is going to be a ruling caste.
	There's going to be a ruling class.
	If it doesn't feel itself tied to this people and to this nation and to these institutions as something that uniquely belongs to it, not just this thing it can pilot around to gain money and status and achieve various humanitarian ends, which are usually a cover for getting money and status, the nation just dies.
	And that's it.
	And if you look at France, I mean, what does Macron have to do with France?
	What is, what is, Certainly Sunak and the United Kingdom have to do with the English.
	And if you look at Biden, Biden is so confused and just aged that he seems to still think he has some connection to the historic American nation.
	But to him, America is this deeply flawed place that just gets better and better and better the more it turns its back on its past.
	And it's his job as a white person to kind of lead that effort. But the idea of fighting for our own
	interests or the idea of expanding our own power, the idea of standing up for our own people, that's
	just totally foreign to him.
	And I think he would call it, if he was capable of calling anything, he would call it un-American.
	He would basically say that you are, yeah, you're right, you're a bigot.
	And he tried to when he was really snarly and nasty.
	I've looked at some of the really nasty things he said about Trump, where he was like, you're just not a good, you're a cruel person.
	And from those who are experiencing cognitive decline and dementia, you do become a nastier, more irascible individual.
	I saw it firsthand myself, actually, from a loved one.
	And it's not fun, because that personality just changes so significantly.
	And yet at the same time, Doesn't it perfectly encapsulate where we are and what type of rulers we have?
	Because, like you just said, the Macron, the individual who is the Prime Minister of India.
	I'm sorry.
	No, the President.
	The President of France.
	The President of the French Republic.
	I don't know where you get an Indian from.
	India, you're thinking of Sunak, who's the Indian in charge of the United Kingdom.
	I was talking about the Indian individual who's the Prime Minister of England.
	And you're right.
	I mean, again, because it was cool Britannia.
	What was Peter Hitchens?
	Great book where he just completely I forgot what the abolition of Britain, the abolition of Britain, where it was all about cool Britannia that that was ushered in and just the really washed away what was, you know, I think at the time I went to England, it was about an 85, maybe 88 percent white country.
	You know, I actually was there for the summer solstice.
	So we got back.
	It's funny.
	We got back.
	We got back, this was 1999, we got back just in time for July 4th.
	Because I remember, I had to be in the United States for July 4th.
	I'm like, I can't, I can't miss, you know, July 4th.
	You can't be in Britain for that.
	Yeah, I can't be in Britain.
	My God, I don't want to be with, you know, these, these colonial.
	My brethren, the, the, the colonials.
	And you go back and you think about even like movies that glorify Independence Day.
	And one of them would be Mel Gibson's phenomenal movie, The Patriots.
	Which of course... It was controversial at the time.
	Yeah, Spike Lee said it was one of the most disgusting movies ever made because they tried to show that the black-white relationship, I think they even said at the beginning when the British Dragoons show up and... Yeah, they pretend that they're not slaves.
	Exactly!
	Well, they don't pretend.
	In the movie, they're like, we're free and we're just, I don't know, digging or picking cotton for fun or something like that, which is idiotic.
	But the...
	What he was trying to do, and I remember because it was, you know, campus conservative or whatever at the time, I remember David Horowitz's foundation put out a very energetic defense of it.
	If you remember, David Horowitz was doing his opposition to reparations at the time and said, we know about him, but he was right about that 20 years ago, that this would be a thing.
	And he said that the Patriot or he or somebody at the group that they published said that the Patriot essentially gives back to America, its founding myth.
	This, this myth, Has been lost, and I don't think it's been lost because liberals and academia or because there hasn't been enough emphasis in entertainment or anything like that.
	I think it's because the nation itself has been lost, and this is where I want to kind of pivot, because I don't want to just be backward looking and complaining about, oh, woe is us.
	Look at how the demographics are changed.
	What do we do about it?
	I want to talk about what is actually sustainable.
	I would posit that, and this is Conceded, I think, in a lot of left-wing academic literature, as we always say, the woke are more correct than the mainstream.
	I think the core American identity is not so much even WASP, but white.
	And that white racial identity is what defines the true America, and that's more true now than ever before.
	And certainly, if you look in Europe, That's what's happening in France, that's what's happening in Britain, that's what's happening in Germany, that's what's happening in all these places.
	The idea that Western European nations or the United States are ever going to fight each other again is insane.
	The only way that could actually happen is if one country essentially became the home of a certain ideological faction and then had to war against An ideological faction that has essentially commandeered another one of these states, but you're not going to get a people's war in the sense of like the Germans and the Russians going at it the way you might get in the past.
	You might get a pure ideological war, but at this point, even the ideologies have just been covers for different demographic groupings.
	As you said, these protests against Le Pen, and this isn't anything to do with Le Pen.
	I have no illusions that Marine Le Pen is the great savior of France or the new Joan of Arc, but Even as milquetoast as she is, that's an existential threat to them, and so they're all going nuts about it.
	And none of the people protesting her are French.
	None of them think of themselves as French.
	I think the leader of the French Communist Party, who basically just got gutted, essentially made a statement right after the election, or right before the election, where he said that the French just have no culture, they have no identity, and that they're the problem, because they're the ones who are a threat to the state, whereas the migrants are The people who are actually a support to the state.
	But here's the thing.
	In some sense, he's right.
	And we're faced with these national liberation struggles, what essentially are just national liberation and what are really anti-colonial struggles in every historically white country at once.
	And maybe this is kind of an abstract thing.
	This is something I debated with Greg Johnson way back when.
	Do you do it in the name of your historic homelands?
	You know, we're going to have a million separate struggles in the name of the Dutch, the Irish, the Germans, the French, the Americans, whatever.
	Or do you just say, hey, it is actually one struggle, but not in the way that most people use that term.
	It's one struggle in the sense that we're all white and that's what it's about.
	And that white people in and of themselves constitute a people and that identity is actually worth more than whatever American means now.
	Now, that's my position, but I'm Probably a bit out there with that.
	I don't think that's quite your position.
	No, I mean, again, it's my position is that the post-World War II era just needs to end and we let things go back to where they are, because unfortunately we saw the two great powers, the two great white powers in Africa.
	Well, I mean, again, Africa, Adio basically shows whiteness being eradicated once decolonialization started and the, you know, White people lost their moral authority on the Dark Continent.
	And, you know, I can't remember, was it Zanzibar?
	Is that where the lead singer of Queen, where his family barely made it out?
	Freddie Mercury, he's that odd looking duck.
	You know, he looks like a white guy, but he's actually not.
	But at the same time, he would never go back and play in Africa because he had such negative view of what had happened to so many of his family members.
	I might have got the country wrong, but that's a little fascinating anecdote.
	And you just think about what happened with Rhodesia and with South Africa.
	I've been reading a lot about Rhodesia and just the tragedy of that.
	You think about what just a few men did to stand up against the black nationalists and
	the communists.
	And then just again, it still makes no sense that South Africa basically decided they wanted
	to play international rugby, so they gave up their country.
	And I think that has to be something you have to really ask yourself.
	Go ahead.
	I think that the presumption of normality or the presumption of safety is something
	that's coming to an end.
	Because if you're a, I mean this, I might get in trouble with some people for this,
	but if you're a rich white South African, remember it was the rich white South Africans,
	and this sounds crazy, but there actually was something of a secret society among the
	Afrikaners, the Broderbund I think it was called, where the most influential people
	in white South African society, Afrikaner society specifically, basically figured out
	where the country was going to go.
	And National Party Basically decided that we're gonna give up the ghost on this and we're gonna try to integrate into the global economy and we're gonna make a deal with the black communists, but the deal is going to be that We are they are not going to get communism they are not even going to get democratic socialism that we get to keep basically our stuff and It's not gonna be good for ordinary white people, but them's the brakes and
	If you look at South African politics since, some elements of the ANC and certainly the economic freedom fighters, when they complain about white monopoly capital, what they're talking about is the fact that a lot of the whites, the rich whites, manage to hold onto the property.
	Leadership at the ANC essentially was just bought off.
	So they get a cut as being the CEO of a mining company or under black economic empowerment, which is the affirmative action on steroids policy South Africa has.
	They get do nothing jobs where they get to be in charge and the white people do all the work, but they get paid a million dollars to sit around and, you know, feel important.
	The Indians are moving South Africa as they have in so many other places.
	They're technically colored.
	That's not a slur, that's like the actual legal designation that they have, and so they get to claim certain things, and some of them are fantastically wealthy and they've set up certain partnerships with the ANC.
	And then you have people who, including some blacks, a lot of coloreds, especially in the Cape, who are kind of looking around and saying, You know, this whole thing is falling apart, and that's why the ANC lost its majority, actually, in the most recent elections, and why the ANC is even making moves toward recognizing Irania.
	And, you know, South Africa is starting to come apart at the seams, but this is, this gets to the core issue.
	If you look at why South Africa threw it all away, if you look at what they were talking about at the time, and you can't blame this on demographics, it was just, we're just talking about white people here, white people by themselves figuring out what to do.
	You had people at the time saying, look, if we're not going to fight to defend the whole country and keep the whole thing, we as Afrikaners should carve out a space for ourselves.
	We should have the Volkstad.
	We should have our own thing.
	And you had the, what I would call the conservatives, Saying things like, well, that's anti-patriotic.
	You're going to make South Africa small.
	You're going to make it weak.
	You're going to make it not live up to the legacy of what it could be.
	I'm more optimistic.
	You're being a pessimist.
	And those guys carried the day.
	Look at how it worked out.
	And you see the same kind of thing, the same kind of arguments that are brought up when you try to keep the American system as is presently construed shuffling along.
	How would you want to break away with this?
	You want America to be small.
	You want America to be weak.
	What do you mean, America first?
	We should be crusading all over the world.
	We should be the greatest thing ever.
	And what's left out is what the point of power is.
	What is it that we're actually fighting for?
	Whose interests are actually being served here?
	I mean, to me, I think the fundamental issue is very simple, which is that white people have no stake in the United States of America right now.
	None whatsoever.
	Insofar as quote-unquote American power, by which I mean the power of the Potomac regime, grows, our lives get worse, because the only thing that it does is come up with new ways to make our lives get worse.
	Now, maybe you can take control of this machine and turn it around.
	I mean, that's kind of the hope of esoteric Trumpism that he becomes.
	Are you serious?
	all afraid of and he'll turn into the great Caesar or God Emperor or whatever that's going
	to lead us all to glory.
	But I don't think, you know, we're all grownups here and I don't think any of us really believe
	that's going to happen.
	I mean, you're not going to get, you know, chocolate milkshake, water fountains and unlimited
	money in the streets paved with gold.
	That's just not going to happen.
	Are you serious?
	That's all I want is- I mean, maybe.
	Yeah, right.
	That would be nice.
	But I mean, you know, there's a 1% chance it'll happen.
	I'll put it that way.
	It's not very likely.
	Okay.
	I like that.
	I like to think about what our relationship is to the United States, because we're in
	the strange position that we are the only real Americans.
	We are perceived by others as the only real Americans.
	At the end of the day, when you wave the American flag, everybody knows it's a white person's flag that you're waving.
	And yet, in terms of official America, if I can call it that, it's whites and whites alone who are not American.
	And the only people who can kind of buy their way into the system are those who essentially Work as collaborators for an occupation regime who exists to put down their own people, people like Biden, for a few years of selfish gain and corruption, and then will be tossed contemptuously aside when they're of no more use.
	So the relationship of white people to the United States and American history is a very tough one this Independence Day.
	And I think that's going to be reflected in the subdued tone that we're going to see this July 4th, aside from the fact of the mass shootings that we get in black neighborhoods every day this day.
	But I mean, heck, that's no different than any other weekend, right?
	Yeah.
	So, Paul, I'll let you close it.
	What are your thoughts on Independence Day?
	And then we'll call it a day.
	No, my thoughts on Independence Day are really simple.
	It is a day that I really have just wonderful memories, obviously, with little ones that I have raised the flag.
	I think back a couple years ago when Chris Pratt was still married to, I think Amy Smart is her name, And he took a picture on social media of his son in front of the United States flag doing the Pledge of Allegiance.
	And he took a lot of flack for that.
	And there are a lot of people, Mr. Hood, who said this is going to hurt his chances of getting far in Hollywood.
	I think he had just made Guardians of the Galaxy.
	Maybe he had been cast in the Jurassic Park remake Jurassic World.
	But the point is, there were people who were giving him flack and calling him jingoistic and bigoted for just having his son in front of the American flag at their house.
	Doing the Pledge of Allegiance.
	And I think, like you said, our country has been so deconstructed that we can't even understand that the good guys are the ones who tried to stop all these problems from metastasizing the cancer that it is today.
	And that is those who are the proponents of the American Colonization Society, those who left the United States of America, who went through Indian territory, who went to Oregon.
	And what was the first thing that they put in their constitution?
	You can't be black and be in the state.
	I think we have to go back and realize that there were interactions.
	Because again, throughout our history, it was basically America was a country that was,
	it was a European Union of the different European countries coming together, creating this idea of whiteness
	in a lot of ways.
	Which of course, it is race biologically, but at the same time, it then became race socially as well.
	I don't think you can differentiate from that, especially when you look at the variations
	within the black community, where you have the brown paper bag test
	to determine whether or not someone is octaroon enough to be allowed into a sorority
	that is distinguished by its lighter skinned black women, as opposed to the darker skinned black women
	who are discriminated against.
	Colorism is always gonna be something in this country.
	It doesn't have to be, if we had actually just gotten rid of the problem
	and had fulfilled the destiny of the American first, I'm sorry, the American colonization society.
	And again, I think that's what we have to look at when you think about the country today
	and where there are gonna be the greatest representation of patriotism and celebrating the country.
	And I think, again, a lot of people, the things we talk about, they wouldn't understand it.
	But at the same time, I think as we're moving forward and we're watching the country
	just really disintegrate before our eyes into this polygot nonsensical place
	where the Somali flag replaces the flag of Minnesota settlers.
	And I think you're going to see more and more states actually getting rid of their state flags.
	In fact, real quick, in Virginia, there was some candidate for office who even floated the idea that the flag of Virginia was racist.
	Because what, it's got a white woman with her breast showing?
	You can't have white, you can't depict white people in positive images, especially on a state flag, because that just shows that an indigenous population, an Amerindian population was displaced by these people.
	And I think at some point, we have to say, It's okay to celebrate that because guess what's happening to us in our nations, whether it's in Europe or whether it's in the United States of America.
	And these are the unfortunate conversations that we have to start having as a people if we're going to be a people, if we're going to have something that we're moving forward to.
	And, you know, Jared Taylor has basically said the country is lost.
	As a whole, what do we do now?
	And I think that is, on Independence Day, I think that's one of the things you have to really think about, because those brave men who declared their independence from Great Britain, they knew that the risks were great.
	I mean, how many of those who actually signed the Declaration of Independence, Mr. Hood, were eventually hunted down and actually killed?
	Quite a few.
	Quite a few.
	But yeah, that is the situation that we're in.
	Yeah.
	So that's, I think, to think about on this Independence Day is the cost of inaction Yeah, so I think that's the challenge before all of us right now because right now we are not independent.
	The cost of action is great, but the cost of inaction is greater.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly. It can be a variation of either.
	And I think, yeah, so I think that's the challenge before all of us right now, because
	right now we are not independent. Right now we are not a people. And the struggle for,
	the question for white people right now is, are we going to have to do it again
	in terms of a fight for our own independence and our own sovereignty?
	So with that, I'm Gregory Hood.

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