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June 24, 2024 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Hey, guys.
Welcome to View from the Right.
This is Gregory Hood.
I'm here, as always, with Paul Kersey.
And this week we will be talking about the newest and greatest American holiday, which is, of course, Juneteenth.
Juneteenth, of course, is not just Juneteenth.
It's not just about the end of slavery.
The technical title is also National Independence Day.
And I've long thought that this is going to be the replacement for the Fourth of July.
You may have forgotten that the Fourth of July is coming up in a couple weeks because the celebrations for it have been downplayed in recent years.
In a lot of places, they've been canceled altogether.
Now, usually they'll say things like, well, we just don't have enough money.
In a couple places, there have been simply too much crime from those mysterious youths or whatever other New York Post euphemism you want to use.
But I think in a deeper sense, It's not just that the Fourth of July is seen as the celebration of a nation that is now racist and fascist and everything that happened before 1965 is evil.
It's also because there's nothing really to celebrate.
What are we independent from?
The United States is interlaced with international institutions and foreign powers in a way that would have driven the Founding Fathers to utter rebellion.
Certainly we're dominated by foreigners in a way that the British colonists were not.
And I think that the loss of purpose, the loss of identity, the loss of a driving force for what underpins this system of ours, explains Jotienth, because instead of the old national mythos of the colonists, and then the fight for independence, and then the winning in the West, and then the rise to a superpower, all of which is either irrelevant or outright offensive to United Statesians, which is what I call, you know, the non-white People who have come to the U.S.
since 1965 as opposed to actual Americans.
I think the new national mythology is essentially a fight against white supremacy that once plagued this continent in defense of all men are created equal, which is the one thing that they're willing to accept from the founding.
It's something that we've never recognized and never can recognize, but that provides an infinite justification for going forward forever.
And that means that the moral center of the United States, the one group of people who have been here since the beginning and that everything has to be built upon, is blacks.
I mean, this is, I think, your concept of black-run America, not literally in the sense of blacks-run America, but blacks are the justification Well, I think we have to go back to the great book by Wilmot Robertson, The Dispossessed Majority.
and only blacks are real Americans.
In a way, it's actually white Americans are the only people who don't get to be American now.
Well, I think we have to go back to the great book by Wilmot Robertson, The Dispossessed Majority.
At the time he wrote it, it seemed so incredulous to believe this was actually happening,
but from the time the book was written to today, I think he is probably the most prescient individual
who has written about the consequences of so much.
And he and Carlton Putnam, of course, the former CEO of Delta, who wrote Race and Reason, at the time they're talking, how could you even perceive that white people would lose their status and be dispossessed and be supplanted, usurped?
And when they're speaking to these audiences, they're going to colleges and they're giving presentations, or at least in the form of Carlton Putnam, he's giving presentations to some of the top Ivy League schools.
And you're looking around, you're like, what's this guy talking about?
How is this?
There's no way this is going to happen.
Flash forward to today.
And, you know, Charles Murray can't even give a presentation on campus.
A friend of ours that we spoke to, Heather McDonald, gets chased off when she tries to give a presentation about crime.
and coulter, you know, can't even get booked anywhere anymore. It's just astonishing the
lack of intellectual rigor and discourse that exists in the country because we have seen
every institution in our country dismantled to put blacks on a pedestal. And when that pedestal
isn't even high enough, that institution gets called racist and bigoted and engaged in implicit
whiteness, whatever that even means anymore.
So yeah, I think Juneteenth, you know, congratulations on surviving it.
I guess there was only one mass shooting at a Juneteenth event this year in Texas, of all places, where I believe the first Juneteenth was actually celebrated.
So, I guess that's apropos for the new federal holiday.
I actually had it off, I don't know about you.
I'm not sure what you did on your Juneteenth, Mr. Hood.
Anything fun?
No, I worked.
I mean, that's a metaphor for how America actually works.
The blacks get a holiday, the whites pay for everything.
I mean, if we want to talk about what really paved the way for all of this, of course, it's Martin Luther King Day.
At the time, we forget how unpopular Martin Luther King really was and remained relatively unpopular, especially among conservatives well into the 80s.
John McCain in it was actually one of the leading opponents of Martin Luther King Day.
Arizona ultimately cracked because I believe the National Football League said that they wouldn't have an event there unless Arizona caved on Martin Luther King Day.
Yeah, they actually, if I could real quick, I just pulled this article up because when you started saying this, Uh, back in 1990, they, uh, they actually had to, uh, they moved the, uh, Superbowl, uh, 27 was scheduled to be, uh, in Tempe, Arizona in 1993.
And that was moved to Pasadena, California.
And that was because it was the state voted down a measure to make MLK a state holiday in 1990.
I mean, think about that.
In 1990, Arizona, the residents of Arizona said, no, not interested.
So what does the NFL do?
Yeah, we're going to move the Super Bowl.
Sorry, guys, you're not going to get it.
Yeah, well, Sam Francis wrote at the time that the key significance of the Martin Luther King holiday was that It introduced a new history and a new form of legitimacy for the United States of America.
And a lot of people dismissed this at the time.
I think he was writing for Senator John East in North Carolina, who was part of the delegation along with Jesse Helms.
And the speech that I think it was the truth about Martin Luther King.
I believe it was, was it Moynihan?
It wasn't Moynihan, but it was.
One of the Democratic delegation actually took the speech, threw a copy of it, threw it on the ground, started jumping up and down on it like a toddler in response to this criticism of MLK, calling it filth.
And of course, we know now that all of it is true.
And in fact, it was probably understated.
MLK, the pivot has already occurred because a lot of people will say, MLK is a conservative hero.
MLK was an American hero.
But even remember, because I know you love professional wrestling, you remember the Hulk Hogan, I am a real American video.
It's got all the great American heroes and then MLK popped in there for some reason.
Yeah.
The reason for that is because there's this artificial version of him where he's actually an American patriot because he quoted from the Declaration of Independence and said something nice about the founders.
Now, of course, he didn't write that, but You know, he read this speech, and that's enough to win over conservatives.
And there's this kind of Hallmark card version of MLK that was sold to conservatives and to Americans more generally, that he was actually a patriot, that he just wanted America to live up to its founding ideals.
Now, none of this is true, of course.
He explicitly supported reparations.
He explicitly opposed colorblindness.
He explicitly denied the divinity of Jesus, so he wasn't really a minister or a Christian in any significant way.
He had about as much respect for that as he did for his marital vows.
Now they don't bother trying to give us the Hallmark card version anymore.
Now that he's been put in the American pantheon, you have all these books saying that, oh, actually he was a radical, that these conservatives who claim to revere him should learn the real MLK was just a gay race communist like everybody else.
And it's like, that's true.
That is what he is.
But as that also means they have to push it farther.
So now you have to get rid of Independence Day because now you don't have to bother trying to disguise all this stuff as American anymore.
Now you can have a replacement holiday.
You already have the attempts to replace the National Anthem.
We already have Lift Every Voice and Sing, so we've got the Black National Anthem.
I think eventually that will become the actual National Anthem.
They can't sustain the Star-Spangled Banner.
I mean, even the things that I was talking about makes no sense to contemporary Americans.
The idea of militant resistance, the idea of defending your rights through force of arms, the fact that it was written by a slaveholder, the fact that it actually mocks the idea of Foreigners using servile insurrection as a weapon against the United States.
All of these things have been brought up now, and this is why it's banned in several places.
How much better to have a song that is about fighting racism and sort of these syrupy sweet ideas about brotherhood or something where we just march forward into the future.
It's not very specific.
It can't be realized, but inculcates a sense of guilt in whites and a sense of messianic promise in blacks.
And that's the purpose of the state at this point.
Well, Juneteenth is the same thing.
You don't need to defend the founders anymore.
You don't need to come up with these convoluted arguments that only 60-year-old white people believe about how the founding fathers were actually race-blind egalitarians because Glenn Beck told you so.
You don't even need to bother with this anymore.
You just say, well, actually, they were never the real Americans.
The real Americans were the slaves.
And at certain times, key times in history, like World War II or the Civil War with the colored regiments, they were the ones who really bore America's national identity.
And they're the ones who give us moral guidance and everything that follows.
Joe Biden, just a few days ago, was saying that the black experience is central to American experience and we're not going to let people deny this and everything else.
The white experience, the white southern experience, has already been purged entirely.
And I think the larger white experience is going to get purged entirely.
Certainly somebody who comes into this country on a visa, on a diversity visa, who gets government preferences, who never works, who despises the historic American nation, who despises the remaining symbols of it, notably the flag and the old national anthem, who will never give anything to this country, that person is preferred by the system.
And we'll get more money and more preferences from the system and is in in the sense that matters is more of an American than you and I are, because if America is to be defined by its ruling system, it doesn't want us.
No, no, it doesn't want us to want to purchase.
And more and frankly, with, you know, Memorial Memorial Day just passed and I was reading an article about the Bedford boys here in Virginia.
I think it's the city that had the most Most, most members, most people from a city in the United States die.
Something like 19 people died on D-Day.
Uh, this was like the, uh, what was it?
The 80th anniversary of D-Day, Mr. Hood, this past June 6th.
And so there was a lot of people in Virginia talking about the Bedford boys.
Maybe we'll see a Mel Gibson movie made by, by, uh, directed about, about this.
The two brothers died and it's really sad stuff.
But again, what does it matter anymore?
Because every death by a soldier since the civil war, every white death, It basically happened to create the world we live in now, right?
I mean, that's what all these white deaths were sacrificed for.
It's like, what exactly did all these boys from Bedford, Bedford, Virginia, what did they die for except to create a world where MLK, again, MLK in 1968, before he died in Memphis, Tennessee, he was with Jesse Jackson shaking down Coca-Cola to ensure that more Coca-Cola bottlers were black owned.
I mean, this guy, had he lived, he started the Poor People's Campaign that Ralph Abernathy famously took over in 1969, where they were going around on horse and buggy to complain about the black economic plight compared to whites.
I mean, think about this, in an alternate world where Martin Luther King is not killed by whoever killed him, we're not a conspiracy show, we only talk about facts, but whoever killed him, okay, if he's not murdered in 68, if he's not shot, What was it on April 4th?
Isn't there a stupid U2 song in the name of love?
Anyways, had he not died, he would have led the march at the launch of the Apollo 11 mission.
Think about it.
MLK would have been discredited had he not died.
I mean, he became a martyr with his death because you had the FBI surveilling him.
We know exactly what he was doing the night before he was shot.
He was with white prostitutes.
We know all the horrible things.
I mean, again, in Ralph Abernathy's book, he denounces him of being an amoral adulterer and just all the horrible things that Vince McMahon has been accused of.
Well, it's not just that he was an adulterer.
I mean, we're talking levels of degeneracy that make the most lurid tales about some evangelical preacher that Hollywood loves to mock.
We're talking about basically approving of rape, of directly being accused of battering a woman in front of other people.
And we're talking about doing all this while cloaking yourself in the cloth and taking that as moral guidance.
And the only people who seem to believe this anymore are essentially older conservatives.
I mean, again, Younger left this Now I've gotten to the point where they'll say, well, M.O.K.
was actually a communist.
M.O.K.
actually didn't believe in God.
M.O.K.
always hated America.
And that's a good thing because we don't need to bother pretending anymore.
So now that makes him more of a hero.
And this was something that even a couple of decades ago, people were at least accepting it, at least with his personal behavior.
For example, Spike Lee's movie, Malcolm X.
This, too, was a myth, but there's this part where the FBI is listening in on Malcolm X calling his wife, and the FBI agent says to the other one, compared to King, this guy is a monk.
Now, of course, Malcolm X and his wife are also merrily cheating on each other, at least according to a new book that came out on the subject, but this idea of MLK not exactly being a moral paragon was already accepted.
Yeah, you're right, and I do want to go back and just talk to you about just how insane the country was back in the 1990s already, and how it was already too late, and how a lot of the people who were being optimistic, you know, Peter Brimlow, a good friend of ours, Jared Taylor, you know, you had the start of a lot of good things pushing back, but again, the rot was already too great, the cancer was too deep.
Look at it this way, this ESPN article I'm reading, there was an economic impact of $200 million, that's what was estimated, by the Associated Press for Arizona losing the Super Bowl because they wouldn't commemorate MLK as every other state was mandated to do.
And then, this is just incredible, 58 conventions were canceled, causing the state to lose $30 million, according to a USA Today report after the 1990 vote.
And, you know, Stevie Wonder declared a boycott of the state, and Notre Dame and Virginia, those two universities, turned down invitations to the Fiesta Bowl in 1990 because of this.
I mean, just think about that.
In 1990, the country is, what, 74, 75 percent white?
You have so many great things happening, but at the same time, this was a harbinger of what was the, you know, the canary in the coal mine, if you will, of just how the concept of black run America had already begun had already been ensconced into corporate America and into
any state that dared stand and say, hey, we're not going to commemorate this guy. Why would we?
Why should we? Why must we? And you're right, John McCain, to his everlasting credit, probably the
best thing that he did was stand up to this at the time. And I think that's a great example
of how we can do that.
And now, you know, you are seeing a pushback.
You know, Charlie Kirk has said a lot of things about MLK.
But at the same time, the Juneteenth holiday came and, you know, conservatives are mocking it as they should.
But again, all this became.
enshrined in law, in federal law.
Wasn't it John Corbyn from Texas who said, hey, let's make this a federal holiday?
Yeah, of course, it was the Republicans who led the way on Juneteenth.
And let's not forget, it was Trump who decided that the final things in his administration he would do
is lessen the penalties for violent crime.
I mean, he's one of the main reasons we had this crime with.
Yeah, and again, it happened so fast after the events of Derek Chauvin, George Floyd,
and late May of 2020.
It was only a couple months later that this happened.
And it's crazy, one of the craziest things that has also happened.
I mean, I think there's a great book to be written, All That We Lost, America Post George Floyd.
While I was reading about the Bedford, the boys at Bedford, apparently Major League Baseball voted to allow the Negro League statistics to become part of Major League Baseball.
And so now you have all these black players who never played against white players, white players who never played against black players.
All the everything is equal now. So all these black players have these just ridiculous stats that
that have supplanted, you know, all these other great blacks for blacks, right? I mean, it's just
another excuse to just give made up awards and whatever. I mean, this is sort of the thing.
I think we should we should basically just get rid of any kind of credentialing institution,
any kind of award, anything like this, because everything operates as like a cargo cult now,
particularly with blacks, where you give them a fake degree and they start lecturing you with
their credentials because they think because they got these fake credentials out of pity
that that gives them authority.
They don't understand, and I mean this quite literally, I don't think they are capable of understanding that the credentials are a reflection of knowledge.
They're not something you just Yeah, they don't have any mystical power in themselves, but
they don't understand that.
So if you give them an award, or you give them a role on a show that is terrible, but
you gave it to them out of diversity or whatever else, they think that is an accomplishment
in and of itself.
And so we really should just have all of these institutions give them plaques and awards
and titles and everything else and then just quietly have the real word somewhere else.
Yeah, you know, I think that's one of Tom Wolf's greatest observations about America.
You know, Bonfire of the Vanities is such a great book for kind of understanding where
America was.
I think he wrote that in what, the mid-80s?
you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank Even the movie's not that bad, the one that has Tom Hanks careably miscast as Sherman McCoy and Bruce Willis.
It's still worth watching, because there's a lot to glean from it.
And, you know, one day I believe Tom Wolf will have a statue in Richmond, Virginia, where he's from, because he understood where the country was and where it was headed, unfortunately, because we just have so few men of courage to stand up and say, whoa, wait a second, what's happening?
Everyone just wants to ride the wave and make enough money, as you have famously made the point on Twitter.
That's the ultimate goal in America is to escape the diversity privately that we must publicly praise every second that we're asked to go on the record of what makes America great, good and moral.
And that's our diversity and our And our stringent anti-white policies that animate every institution, both private and public.
And, you know, as we're talking about Juneteenth, I just, again, it's astonishing to think that since it was made a national holiday, every year there's been a mass shooting.
And there was one famous in Oakland a few years ago where there was a mass shooting at a Juneteenth event, Mr. Hood.
And as the Pyramidics were trying to take black People who were at this party at this Juneteenth event to the hospital to make sure that they didn't die.
There were scores of obese black women twerking that were blocking the police, that were blocking the EMTs, blocking the ambulances from making The best was Cori Bush wrote this book, or had somebody write it probably, but she wrote this book where she talked about being in a faith healing church, so now she's claiming to cure diseases through miracles.
The best was Cori Bush wrote this book, or had somebody write it probably, but she wrote
this book where she talked about being in a faith healing church.
So now she's claiming to cure diseases through miracles.
Now keep in mind, this is coming at a time, Cori Bush is one of these black affirmative
action congressmen from one of these just bombed out districts that you never would
want to be caught dead in.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
And this is after years and years and years of endless propaganda, both fiction and nonfiction, talking about how we need to trust the science, talking about conspiracy theories, the direct motivation for the federal government to pinpoint Individual people on Facebook and social media that the demand be censored, which then social media does.
This is the subject of all these Supreme Court cases.
So the whole idea of undermining science, not trusting science, the ability to shut people up, Who even questioned these ideas as being fundamental to the role of government.
This is after years of all this.
Well, Cori Bush comes out and is like, well, actually, because I'm black, I can just wave my hands over people and cure them of diseases.
She writes about this in this book.
She gets interviewed on television and you get this white woman journalist just looking at her with rapture, like, oh, the black, the fat black woman can cure diseases because blacks are magic.
And she tells these ridiculous stories.
And she just, the reporter just looks at her with just Order ecstasy because they really do believe that their
magic and to question this is to commit a blast from him and this is one of the things that I try to hammer away
people it's not it's not a replacement religion.
It's not like a religion.
It's not spreading in a manner akin to a religion.
It is a religion complete with supernatural beliefs.
People were swearing that they were getting baptized at George Floyd's death site and being cured of diseases.
Like, these kinds of claims are being made.
They were putting icons of all these people up on Catholic altars.
I mean, this is far more sacred.
Martin Luther King is a saint in the, I think, the Episcopal Church.
How many state funerals, how many state funerals did Floyd have?
I think he had three that were televised.
Three or four.
Yeah, three or four.
I think that he had a golden coffin or something.
Right.
And of course, these were widely attended and you didn't have to obey any of the COVID stuff.
I mean, you had giant rallies in the streets who had all the health authorities saying, well, actually the bigger danger than COVID is racism and therefore it's actually okay if we can get rid of these laws.
Being an anti-racist, Well, it hasn't gone away.
I mean, this is one of the big problems.
People say things like, the woke is being put away, or the woke's being rolled back, or we're rolling back woke.
being a radical anti-racist.
So that's fine, you're right, exactly.
This stuff was happening.
God, 2020 was so weird, oh my goodness.
Well, it hasn't gone away.
I mean, this is one of the big problems.
People say things like the woke is being put away or the woke's being rolled back
or we're rolling back woke.
That's not true at all.
All of these things are simply institutionalized now.
And you might have some cutbacks in DEI, but the underlying legal structure and the structure of compulsion is still there.
None of this is going away.
And so people will say things like, well, it's not as radical as it once was, or maybe this place doesn't have an intersectional flag anymore.
Now they just have the regular gay flag and this is progress or something like that.
But the bottom line is we all have to exist this way.
We all have to watch what we say.
We all have to essentially lie to ourselves and everybody around us just so we can steal a few moments of freedom in terms of where we live.
If we make enough money, the reason we have to do this is because it is against the law.
Not just to have freedom of association, but even to do the colorblind meritocracy that we're told is so valuable, that too is against the law.
You are not allowed to hire the most qualified person for a position.
You are not allowed, if you are bidding for a government contract, to give the contract to the person who can do the job the best, or even the person who bids the lowest.
Everything has to be done through various racial preferences.
Everything has to be done with various minority preferences.
And one of the keys here is that nobody is challenging, nobody is challenging this from the right.
I mean, just two days ago, I believe, Donald Trump said he would staple a green card to the degree of every immigrant that graduated from college, even a junior college, I believe was his term.
And this is literally a Hillary Clinton campaign line from 2015.
That's what we're after.
Doesn't Trump said that before, though?
He has said it before.
I mean, this is one of the funny things about it is that the best defense you can make about Trump about this is that he said this last time and then he didn't follow through with it.
In fact, he restricted it.
So maybe he's just lying.
But I mean, that's what democracy is.
I mean, you essentially you vote for somebody.
And you have to kind of guess what they're lying about, because everybody sort of agrees that what they actually say in speeches has no resemblance to what the policies are actually going to be.
Correct.
But that's the way our system works, and that's better than monarchy for some reason that nobody's ever really explained to me.
But what we have is a legal structure that is overwhelmingly directed against whites, and even if we could get Whites to this colorblind meritocracy that exists only in the conservative imagination, the thing that they think Martin Luther King fought for, which never actually existed, not even for any brief amount of time.
Even getting to that point would be a tremendous improvement where we are now, but that's actually illegal under civil rights law.
And if you make that point, they just don't get it.
They say, well, that's not true because civil rights law is about opposing like racial preferences.
And it's like, no, it's not.
If you actually look at what these things are, if you actually look at what the bureaucracy mandates, if you actually look at what the case law mandates, a lot of people don't even believe you if you say it's against the law to have IQ tests for a specific job.
They say, well, why don't we just IQ test people?
And it's like, well, because you would go to jail and your business gets shut down.
Well, that's not true.
It's like, yes, it is.
That's what Griggs versus Duke or Duke versus Griggs.
Duke v. Griggs power.
And ultimately, There is some progress within the conservative movement over this, but.
We're still playing by these these assumptions of America as a marketplace America as just sort of this place where you compete and you try to score other people out of money and make money and.
We're this kind of sports team where if we get smart people to come from around the world and we give them visas and they form like stupid scam software companies or something somehow we gain something from it.
But the idea of.
Having a pact through generations, the idea of having anything in common with the founding fathers, let alone having what used to be taken for granted as a nation, which is that it's the same people, generation after generation, that it's literally a familial relationship to the people who started the country.
And that the reason things like the Civil War, or World War I, or World War II, or going back to 1812, Mexican War, the Revolution, and all the wars that happened before that, We forget how long America existed as a colony before the revolution was because it was literally just your family history.
That's what it was.
And so you had a relationship to these things because that's you and the ideology or because I think we want to lose the point when we say, well, what did they die for?
People who died in World War Two, you know, what did they really die for?
And you can extend this to obviously what happened in Great Britain and France and a number of the other allied powers, all these people who thought they were fighting for a king and country or for their empires or for their nation, and who actually were fighting and dying so their descendants could be turned into minorities in their ancestral homelands.
But even that kind ofness is the point, because it wasn't really about ideology, because any ideology or even religious cause for a war tends to fade with time.
I mean, if we look at like the 30 Years War set, or even the sorts of grievances that animated people during the American Revolution, or even during the Civil War to some extent, we don't relate to them the same way, because they're not relevant, right?
I mean, we obviously are a product of our time.
But they still matter to us if it's literally us, if it's our blood, if it's our ancestry, if it's the people who made us who we are, who were engaged in these conflicts.
That's why, until very recently, civil war reenacting was so big in the South, was because practically the entire white population had ancestors who fought and died in this war, and you could go to their graves and look at them and say, hey, this is my great-great-great-grandfather, or whatever it was.
You related to it on that level, even if you didn't share the ideology, even if you didn't understand the ideology, it still mattered to you.
Now we don't have that.
Now most of the people populating the country, at least the people who've been coming in over the last few decades, not only had nothing to do with the people who built this country, but insofar as they relate to them as all, they see them as enemies, as blood enemies.
And Insofar as they have any relationship to American history, they see it as a history of aggression against them.
And whites have this idea that we can somehow turn some Indian guy or some black guy, let's say an African immigrant who just came as opposed to a descendant of American slaves, or a Hispanic who crawled across the border, that they will have something to do with George Washington or Thomas Jefferson.
Why should they?
Why would they?
What possible relationship are they going to have to these people and say, well, these eternal principles?
Well, the principles that define American life now have nothing to do with the kind of principles the founding fathers talked about, regardless of which founder you like.
You could talk about Hamilton or you could talk about Jefferson.
Nobody, absolutely nobody, would agree to live under the kind of government we have now.
This is far worse than what they suffered under George III.
And every single one of the founders, by contemporary standards, was a white nationalist, full stop, and a white supremacist, and someone who did not believe in democracy, and even the people who talked about democracy understood it in a very different way than people talk about it today.
I mean, if you talk about, let's say, the great champion of the common man, if you talk about somebody like Thomas Jefferson, I mean, to Thomas Jefferson, it essentially was This romantic idea of the Saxon warriors who aren't governed by a landed aristocracy who get to run their own property without interference from everybody else and essentially can run their affairs like property gentlemen who don't have to deal with the government at all.
I mean, how different is that from the kind of system we live under today?
You can't reconcile these things.
I mean, this is the one thing I want conservatives to understand.
There's no way you can sell the American Revolution or traditional American identity to a third world population.
You have to go with Jueteenth.
You have to go with Lift Every Voice and Think.
You have to go with Black Run America and the symbols of Black Run America and the idea that blacks not literally run America, but that they're at the center of American identity because A narrative of grievance and dependence and endless complaint is the only thing that can unite people together at this point.
You know, there was a great that's what the country is.
Yeah, and I think the good people at the Claremont Institute have been drifting because there's no other there's no other compass except for defeating our enemies except for coming to our line of
thinking.
You know, that's one of the horrible things about getting to an idea and grasping it and
understanding that this is the only truth that's going to save us. That is what the New Century
Foundation, that's what people like Peter Brimlow, going back to Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis, and like
I said, the two men that I mentioned earlier, Carlton Putnam and Wilmot Robertson, they already
knew we were a dispossessed majority at a time when we were 80, 85% of the country.
It was already baked into the sauce because we had failed to make it, you know, explicit whiteness.
And we had failed, you know, you had the Immigration Act of 1965, which was fought, which would had been, you know, preceded by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
And the American Spectator published an article by Nate Hockman the other day, a really good writer, a great person to follow on Twitter.
Against Juneteenth, the purpose of the holiday was abundantly clear from the outset to anyone
who cared enough to actually pay attention.
Again, I highly recommend you guys, all of our listeners out there, pause this podcast
after I tell you this and just take a look at this article, Against Juneteenth, the purpose
of the, by Nate Hockman.
It was published on June 19th.
And he just points out that a couple of days ago, The Hill trumpeted, quote, black advocates
to use Juneteenth to demand political change.
And as you talked about, President Joe Biden noted the day's significance as a mark of the end of our original sin, slavery.
The Georgia Senator Warnock took the opportunity to solemnly remind Americans of how far we've come.
how much further we still need to go." So Mr. Hood, we know that all of the holidays,
all the holiday, Juneteenth, coming forward in 2025 and onward, it's always going to be a day,
like how far have we come, but how much more must we do to dismantle the white supremacist,
white power structures that got us from the first flight in 1903 by the white brothers to
the moon in 1969 in less than 65 years.
It doesn't matter because the original sin is slavery and what are you, what are we collectively doing to ensure that we remember this in our daily lives and we no longer celebrate those white men, those dead white males who made our country once possible. And again, it's just like the
march across the Selma Bridge, the Edmund Pettus Bridge. It's just like any place where
there is a civil rights shrine that we have to fall on our knees in front of. And there's no indulgences,
of course, that we can pay to get out of it. You know, as we're sitting here just thinking
about all this, it is incredible that it took just one black dude dying of a fentanyl overdose to
cause all of this hysteria.
But that's because it was already there.
It was just waiting for that right opportunity.
Yeah.
Well, it can be ginned up.
Yeah.
This is, this is one of the keys to, if we look at, I mean, I don't want to, I want to move to something that I think will be a bit more productive as far as moving forward.
I don't want to just kind of go over complaints and double standards here, but it is worth saying.
Even just today, there were people talking about, you know, Mississippi burning and we still get the Emmett Till and all these like so-called martyrs in the civil rights movement.
There will never be a film about the children who have been executed over the last, just the last couple of weeks by blacks.
There will be.
I think one of the parents even was just complaining that I think her daughter was killed by an illegal and the White House just like put her off, you know, just referred to her casually with this sort of form letters like, oh, the victim, whatever, you know, just the kind of contempt that you get from a bureaucracy when you're trying to get something fixed.
They don't care about these things.
And this is one of the I guess the big problems or one of the big Disputes that I have with some others is that I think that the people who are putting forward these policies know quite well what the consequences of their policies are going to be.
And I think that when these kinds of crimes occur, that it's if not justification for overt celebration, it's certainly a source of quiet satisfaction for them.
And certainly, if you look at what's going on on X, you oftentimes do get overt celebration.
For example, when those white missionaries went to Haiti and they were killed, you know, blacks were celebrating that, which, of course, I imagine is quite a shock to these people who dedicated their lives to trying to save their souls and uplift these people.
Like, that's the thanks you're going to get.
And I could have told you that beforehand.
But you also get that with even these types of crimes.
I mean, people just openly celebrating it because they think it's funny.
Why wouldn't they think it's funny?
If you've been told your entire life that all the problems that you have are the fault of white people, why wouldn't you be happy when white people die?
You say, oh, well, they're innocent white people.
Well, there are no innocent white people, because if white privilege is real, by definition, there can be no innocent white people, because we're all recipients of privilege.
Everything we have is somehow unearned.
And therefore, if it gets taken away, even through something like violence, in some sense, we had it coming.
And people and to be a moderate is when you say, like Nelson Mandela, oh, well, directly slaughtering them in the street might not be a great idea, but we should just take it away with the power of the state.
Like that's a peaceful way to do it.
That's that's more moderate somehow.
That's where we're at.
And of course, if you take that kind of rhetoric and apply it to any other group, people see it for what it is.
So if you say, oh, well, according to this chart, whites have a higher average income Then blacks, therefore, they're getting it from privilege.
Therefore, they're getting it from an abuse of power.
Therefore, retribution against them is justified.
And then if I say, well, here's another charge showing that, say, Indian Americans or Jewish Americans have higher income than whites, is violence justified against them?
How dare you?
You're going to jail.
You're a terrorist.
I mean, these goalposts move so quickly and so casually because they're lubricated by media narratives and also entertainment, because we all in our head Have these kinds of scripts.
With the numinous Negro, as National Review, I think of all things, called it.
These kind of saintly blacks that exist only as victims, who have no agency, who also have a kind of magic power to uplift us and have some special connection to the divine.
And as ridiculous as that sounds, you have these supposedly skeptical, hard-bitten journalists, the same people who are screeching at us to trust the science, looking with big googly eyes at some fat Negro who thinks she can cure cancer by waving her hands over people.
And that's educated opinion.
That's elite human capital.
That's the people who look down on so-called white trash.
That's what they believe.
Everybody has a religion.
Everybody has their own magical beliefs.
Everybody believes in ethno-nationalism to some extent.
It's just a question of who.
But I think the real question, and maybe we should move on to this, and I want to hear your thoughts more than hear myself speechify on this, is as whites, Is it really our responsibility to try to save America from itself?
Because if it's baked into the cake, if ideas are taken to the logical conclusion, I mean, certainly the American symbols like the old American flag, the Appeal to Heaven flag, the Confederate flag, certainly some of the founders and a lot of these other things, they really have only meaning to white people.
They can be co-opted very quickly, but They're never really gonna, non-whites are never really gonna take to them.
Even Joe Biden can talk about these things in a way that Cori Bush will never be able to.
She can't even fake it, you know what I mean?
But I mean, what symbols unique to us do we have?
Because the only one I can really think of is the Confederate flag, and that one's problematic because non-southerners will be like, well, I don't relate to that.
I would say the Confederate flag.
I would say the the original flag of the United States, the Betsy Ross flag.
If you think about all the attacks and the Betsy Ross flag.
Yeah, that was I think Scott wrote about that.
Scott Greer wrote about that a couple of years back when that was a big thing with the NFL.
Yeah, I think Nike got attacked because they came out with a Betsy Ross Betsy Ross shoe with that flag.
I actually bought a Betsy Ross flag and I've considered flying it or I've also thought about doing what Judge Alito did and fly the American flag upside down.
I like the Appeal to Heaven flag, too.
What's interesting about that one, too, is it's a New England flag.
You can you can think of a regional flag or something that goes with each region that has a kind of subversive message that they can't quite get rid of.
Now, of course, the flip side of that is that they do just get rid of it very quickly.
So, for example, the Appeal to Heaven flag, I think it was flown in San Francisco for years and years without anybody caring.
But then when they found out that Alito was flying it and a couple of reporters decided that this was treason and subversion and terrorism overnight, They cancelled it, so to speak, and said, well, we're not going to let you use this anymore.
And then, well, it used to be good, but we found out that it's evil now, so if you use it now, it's evil.
It's sort of like the old 4chan meme of, well, we're going to trick them into thinking that the OK symbol is a white supremacy thing.
It's like, yeah, but once they really believe it and start using their power to punish people who do it, it actually becomes the truth.
If you have sufficient media power, you actually can create your own reality.
Yeah, I've got so many stories of 2020, I won't get into them, of something that happened where a friend of mine was in HR for a very big company and she was telling me about how they had to investigate for racism people who were seen in photos doing the OK symbol.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
This was a joke and they're just doing that.
And it was amazing how fast and how quickly that went from Well, you said 4chan to yet another opportunity for the SPLC, the ADL to put out a hate watch so that you could get a gotcha opportunity on people.
And you're right.
It is.
It's just incredible what symbols mean.
I mean, let's just go back to Minnesota, where they had a white pioneer on the state flag.
That was that was problematic.
And it was emblematic of our white supremacist past.
And so what did they do?
They basically decided to create a flag.
They had a contest.
Looks like Somalia, right.
It looks like one of the flags on one of the Somali... I don't know, does Somalia even have provinces?
I think the governor is some goofy white guy, like some fat guy who's just like, oh, look at this, guys!
Look at the great new flag that we've got.
Isn't this wacky?
Whoa!
And this idea of being this little quirk and like, oh, our past is so cringe, so I'm going to come up with this new cool design I set up on Reddit.
And it's just so unbearably lame, but it's the only way they know how to respond to things, and yet it comes from a place of supreme comfort and entitlement, where they just can't imagine that there could be negative consequences to anything they do, that you could just completely trash your own past, that you can just completely shred Your own identity, and nothing bad could possibly result from it.
And to some extent, it's a self-fulfilling prosody.
I think Steve Saylor even used to write about this, although I can't find the old Tweeter column.
But he used to write about how to complain about bad public schools or bad public safety is to confess low status because, A, you're so lame and uncool that you have kids and you have to care about where you live.
And also, you're admitting that you don't have enough money to just avoid these problems.
I mean, this also explains why increasingly, to go back to what I talked about before, the tone taken toward these victims of crime, it's no longer sympathy.
It's either contempt or celebration when you have these stories about some suburban white person who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and becomes the victim of a random attack, as they phrase it.
It's like, yeah, well, they had it coming because if you were high status, you wouldn't be dealing with these problems.
And it's actually, it's a far greater moral problem to complain about these things, or certainly suggest that they be stopped, than it is to actually commit these things.
Because why do crimes exist?
Because of bad social policy.
Nobody has any agency.
It's bad social policies that are blamed, which is to say that it's actually the fault of white people.
And so therefore, complaining about crime is actually worse than actually committing crime.
Now, again, I think Wolkemore correct.
I actually think that among the lower classes, I think a lot of white people really don't understand.
They don't really get what it means to be at the left end of the bell curve, because we understand what it is to be among the left end of the bell curve among our own people.
We've probably all hung out in certain areas like this, and you know it's a bit different than probably what you're used to, but you can still get by.
Like, I'm not going to romanticize it or say, like, oh, this is the salt of the earth or whatever, but you can get by.
There still are people.
It's there's a lot of dysfunction.
Yeah, but.
Civilization limps along, so to speak.
When you're talking about inner-city black neighborhoods, when you're talking about what real poverty looks like, real dysfunction, real criminality, when you realize that these neighborhoods are this way because these people really can't function in any significant way, I just don't think white people really understand what that looks like.
They never They never encounter somebody who has an IQ of 80 and is still walking around trying to get like a job and operate as an adult.
You remember in the, uh, was it the Trayvon Martin case where they had that witness come up?
Yep.
Uh, what was her name?
Uh, Brittany.
It doesn't even matter.
I mean.
But again, to quote Saylor, I think that was America's first look at what ADIQ looks like.
Just this kind of like surly, hostile, just unbelievably stupid, just basic questions about what had happened or comprehending what reality is completely over the head.
And of course, how do whites respond to it?
They immediately respond, well, they must, nobody could be this stupid, so they must actually be smart.
Rachel, yeah, her name was Rachel Gentile.
Yes, right.
And I think like Piers Morgan was like, actually, she's really smart, because like, no, it's because you can't, to admit the truth of what this is, and furthermore, to admit the fact that there are entire cities where this is all it is, and that this is most of what your taxes are paying for in a lot of these states.
To do that, it's a cosmic horror.
I mean, you're just going to go insane.
And to say that, oh, these are your fellow Americans, that you owe a duty to these things.
It's absolutely, I don't think that's something that ordinary people can come to terms with without losing everything.
Yeah, Rachel, it's funny, you know, it's what I was thinking as you were talking that basically white people have one Job in the United States at this point, and it's not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
That's pretty much it.
I mean, I mean, because again, you as diversity spreads everywhere and you see articles celebrating the fact that there are so few counties that are under that are over 90% white.
And in Jeremy Carl's book, he talks about, is it Jeremy Carl?
Is it?
I'm sorry.
Is it?
That's that's the name of the guy who just wrote that book about anti-white, correct?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Jeremy talks about how in like 1960, it was, Don't remember how many counties were over 90% white, but it was amazing.
The better states.
Somebody had that on Twitter, where it was something like, I think now it's only Maine.
And New Hampshire that are over 90% white, and I think it was something like 28 to 30 states in 1960 or 1970 were over that.
Don't quote me on that, but it was some extraordinary amount.
And again, you see that meme on Twitter of the white guy in the funny suit with a cigarette in his face, and he's looking around as he's pumping gas, and it's like, you know, oh my gosh, thugs could be here, or like you said, whatever euphemism.
The New York Post uses, it's always funny you use that joke, but it's not funny because that's the case.
That's your job, is not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It's coming up on the 13th anniversary in July of this year where a friend of mine that I grew up with, Brittany Watts, it's the only reason I kept SPPDL going.
I was gonna stop it.
She was murdered in Atlanta, Georgia.
Two other white girls were shot and it turned out that the black guy who shot him, shot the three white girls, his last name was Tawandi, he did it because of what he learned in school about white privilege.
I mean, this is the point.
This is the predictable and intended outcome.
Yes.
And insofar as it is unintended, it is unintended because they're afraid that if it's too blatant, white people might do something about it.
That's the only sense in which it is not intended.
If they can do it through the state more surreptitiously, where it's not quite as hitting the New York Post, then they would do it that way.
But the outcome that they want is still the same.
And it's critical for people to understand because, again, whites, they assume this is a uniquely Anglo thing, I would almost say.
They assume that the law has a certain power in and of themselves, and they think that everybody is like them.
And so, oh, I like the founders, so every good buddy can be taught to like the founders.
Well, it doesn't work that way.
And more than that, you sort of see this in the shell-shocked expressions of these white crime victims where their family member is slaughtered by some dull-eyed ADIQ, no consciousness black criminal, and they get dragged
up before the court and they're crying and they're talking to the judge about what was taken from
them and just the complete indifference of the media, the glee or contempt from the black criminals
and of course the families, the idea that the blacks are actually the real victims here
because they didn't receive the help that was intended.
And then, of course, insofar as the federal government cares, it's to send somebody to your house to lecture you to shut up and say, you better say that this crime had nothing to do with racism.
Again, the one thing that you can do which will make the federal government take a personal interest in you and take your side to make sure that your personal benefit is looked after is to kill a white person.
Then they will literally send somebody out to make sure that you get the best legal environment that you can get.
Yeah, I think raw egg nationalism.
That's what we live under.
And you have to accept that.
And people don't want to accept that because they want to, well actually it's this and that and it's misguided consequence.
No, like this is what it is.
That's what you live under.
The only question is what you're going to do about it.
Now I think what most people do, and they're not being irrational, they're not being cowardly, I think this is just the way it is.
On an individual basis, it always makes sense to keep your head down, make enough money, and move away from it, because I do think we overstate the case, and you see this online sometimes, where it's like, oh, black criminals are just, you know, killing everybody in the streets, and the blood flows like rivers.
It's like, okay, well, probably not, because, you know, let's face it, it's pretty rare to be the victim of a murder or something like that.
But, It is just going to keep happening, and the fear of being one of these victims is what dominates your life.
That's why you live where you live.
That's why you send your kids to school where you send them to school.
That's why you commute an hour to work every day.
That's why you do most of the things that you do.
That's why you can't afford nice things is because you have to pay taxes to subsidize these people who, if left to their own devices, would gleefully kill you.
And you could say something like, well, the people who actually do pay the consequences for this, the people, the places where being a victim of crime actually is part of the way of life are these black neighborhoods.
That is true.
That is 100% true.
But it's also what they want.
Well, I'll tell you what they want.
Going back to celebrating blacks who massacre whites, I don't think we've talked about this guy yet, but in a In Charleston, South Carolina, there's actually a monument now, a statue to Denmark Vesey, who was a free black man who purchased his freedom in 1800 and who was a leader of an alleged insurrection, a plot to kill every white person in the city.
This was after, of course, the revolution in San Domingo.
And guess what, Mr. Hood?
He has a statue of himself that was put up this century.
While all the Confederate statues are coming down, while a statue of Oh my gosh, who was Andrew Jackson's vice president?
Oh, John C. Calhoun.
That statue got taken down.
There was legitimately a statue to Denmark Vesey, who wanted to have a slave revolt to kill every white person in Charleston, South Carolina.
This was in 1822, uh, and he wanted, you know, he was, he was executed for this, but he now has a statue.
I think that's a very, very sick reminder of where we are in this country, uh, in 2024 that there's, you know, as all these monuments to white men, and it's not just Confederates anymore.
We know that, but there's a statue of a guy who wanted to kill every white person, every white person in Charleston, South Carolina.
There's a statue to him standing in Charleston, South Carolina now, and that is in, um, You can see that it's in Hampton Park and yeah, I mean again, he that's where we are.
I think that's it.
And I think that you're saying I want to bring up before we start bringing this to a close is work right now.
I'm working on.
A future for early next week about the beginning of the Civil War and it talks about the radicalism of abolitionists and the John Brown raid.
Now, of course, one of the things that John Brown did is he killed a lot of people who were not slave owners, but were vaguely accused of being pro-slavery, whatever that means.
Certainly we see with the attacks on the Confederacy, as we all know, a lot of Confederates, most Confederates, in fact, did not own slaves.
Some of them may have been even opposed to slavery, but it doesn't matter.
And the argument is essentially, well, Their social status, their way of life, the system that they were a part of, what property they had, even in a lot of cases where they really didn't have much property, what it came from was this system of exploitation.
Therefore, because there's a certain violence inherent in that system, we can, quoting Monty Python, of course, unknowingly, but I mean, that's basically the structure of the argument.
That actually is what they're saying.
Because there is violence embedded in this social and political system, as there is in any social and political system, violence against them individually is okay.
And occasionally this breaks out into the modern world.
So for example, and I'm bringing this up just because it just happened, this trainee shot his, her, whatever, parents, killed them.
And as Matt Walsh pointed out, the quote tweets are all basically saying this is good.
And the reason this is good is because the parents or the relatives may have dead named this person, didn't recognize whatever gender this person wanted to be.
Therefore, it's justified to kill these people.
And the argument, essentially, is if you don't recognize this moral standard, if you don't recognize the morality that I have just come up with, violence is justified against you.
It's okay for me to kill you.
Now, with slavery now, because slavery obviously has been left behind by history, and I would argue mostly because of the changing nature of production, less than people were just stupid throughout of all of human history and then woke up one day and were like, oh, slavery is bad.
It's like, no, it's because it was left behind by industrialization.
I mean, that was like, what really started getting people's minds changed.
But this model of left-wing argumentation still remains.
I mean, after all, what is communism except that, oh, under capitalism you're exploiting me, so therefore I get to kill you?
What are all these left-wing cultural arguments other than, oh, well, this model of society is exploitative or oppressive, whether that be enforcing gender norms, whether that be Christianity, whether that be white supremacy or any of these things.
Certainly, we have enough people saying, like, we deserve to die.
I'm sure we'll get a couple comments from people listening to this, leftists who listen to this.
They take it upon themselves that, like, they have the right to do this.
Well, when you see these monuments, To people who were trying to do these survival insurrections and massacre all the white people like they did in Haiti, what is the message being carried over to today?
Given that every white person must believe, and this is a matter of law, depending on what state you're in, you have to believe that white privilege is real.
You have to sign some sort of a DEI statement of belief.
Or else you will lose your job saying that you believe in diversity, equity and inclusion, and that there are systems of exploitation that are oppressing non-white people because whites have institutional power and set them up that way.
Well, how do you change these things?
You use violence or you use politics?
And if you use politics, what you're essentially saying is that you're going to use violence through the state.
to redress these grievances.
But either way, you're taking for granted that you have the right to use violence against whites.
And people are being taught from cradle to grave that this is justified, and that this is necessary, and this is what it is to be a good person.
If you're a white person and you don't think about these things, that's fine.
You can believe whatever you want to believe.
But the fact is, they are being taught this about you.
What are you going to do about that?
Because there aren't that many more places to move to.
No, there's not.
And I think we know the federal government has a policy of, you know, again, there were no Swedes, I'm sorry, Swedes, they're not gonna be Swedes left in Minnesota soon.
But I mean, there were no Somalis in Minneapolis, when the goofy movie Mighty Ducks came out in the early 90s.
And now we are all shocked at the growth and of course, the perpetual Lawlessness that we see of Somalis, especially when it comes to defrauding the government, whether it's food stamps, PPP loans, et cetera, that have transpired from Somalia.
It's basically been colonized.
That's why you have so many of these elected officials now, because when you vote, you're exercising force, as the great movie and book Starship Troopers taught us.
And that's what's happening.
They are, I think there was a video earlier this year where there was a election held in Minneapolis, might've been Maine actually, don't quote me on this, but The Somali who won spoke Somalian in the entire victory speech on our soil, in our land.
And I mean, if you can't realize where we are at that point, it's like, what are these people doing in here?
We've got, I want to say 5% of Somalia has actually come to our country now and is spreading.
Somalis are now, you know, why is there one Somali in America?
Let alone to a point where you're able to you're able to see them elect people to represent their interests.
Like you talked about Dearborn last week and just how depressing and despondent it was and morose to walk into Walmart.
I mean, that's that's everywhere in the country.
It's going to soon be Wyoming and it's going to soon be Montana.
It's going to soon be, you know, the suburbs, the whitest, liliest white suburbs of your major cities, because the federal government is going to continue to diversify that area with with refugees from our failed foreign policy.
And again, like you said, they are, their children are going to be taught that any disadvantage
they have is due to white privilege, implicit whiteness, you know, our racist past.
And so they're going to align with those who advocate against that.
And again, as we see in Charleston, there's a statue of Denmark Vesey who had an idea
of how to get rid of it and had the ultimate idea of how to end a white supremacist structure.
is you get rid of the white people who uphold it.
Full stop.
I mean, that's what we have to understand, and that's what unfortunately so few people Even on our side are willing to admit some people still have this Pangolosian view borrowed from the Candide of that.
Hey things things can get better.
We can coexist.
We can't we cannot coexist and that's and they never wanted to I mean, that's one of the critical things is you need to understand that.
In every network news program and every University course and every DEI workshop that you have to sit through with HR.
The model already is this.
The model is Haiti.
And if you look at what happened to Rhodesia, if you look at what happens to South Africa, if you look at what happened to the cities in your own country, look at what's starting to happen in Europe, no one is bothering to disguise the intentions anymore.
And there might be some people who believe that somehow, some way, that at the end of this process, things just magically work out.
But it hasn't worked out in a single place so far.
And I think the people who are running the show and the people who matter never had any illusions about where this is all going.
Things are working out exactly as they were intended to work out.
And so the real question that we need to ask is not whether Juneteenth is a replacement Independence Day for July 4th.
The real question we need to ask is, what is it going to take for whites to start conceiving of an Independence Day just for us, to be free of them?
Because what we need is not independence from George III.
What we need is independence from non-whites and reclaiming our own destiny, our own sovereignty, and our own independence for our people.
That's why I'm a white nationalist, and that's why I'm doing this.
So, I think we'll wrap it up there.
Paul, do you want to close it?
Yeah, well, I'll close it with this.
I mean, I don't like that term because I don't think the term of what we are going to be has been created yet.
I think, again, things happen naturally, organically.
And one of the things that we do want to have is feedback from you.
I wish we would have done this at the beginning, but I have a feeling that people are going to be really enthralled and captivated by our conversation here on Juneteenth.
So I do recommend that you shoot me an email if you have any observations, if you have any critiques.
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