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May 9, 2024 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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How to Deport 20 Million People

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey talk about what it would take to clear out all illegals. They also discuss the Denver home-stay program, DEI in disguise, Marie-Thérèse Kaiser, and the UN at our border. Thumbnail credit: © Jerry Glaser/Cbp Photos/Planet Pix via ZUMA Wire

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
I'm your host, Terry Taylor with American Renaissance, and with me is my indispensable co-host, none other than Paul Kersey.
Today is May 8th, Year of Our Lord 2024.
And as usual, we'd like to start with comments by listeners.
One writes in to say, in your recent AmRam podcast, you spoke of your bad, question mark, habit of listening to NPR.
It made me laugh, because I too share this terrible affliction.
I like their analytical style, I guess.
What I don't like about right-wing talk radio, Hannity, Levin, etc.
It's so full of exaggeration, writes our listener.
Frankly, I feel the same way.
Constant, crazy accusations about Democrats.
They're just stupid and unconvincing.
I guess that makes the host feel good.
Our listener continues.
Also, it's genuinely good to understand the other side's perspective.
Frankly, that's my main interest, speaking as your host.
How do our readers think?
It's really important to know.
Well, the listener goes on.
What drives me nuts is when NPR gets so into their story—white man bad—that they start telling flat-out lies.
I remember listening to Latino USA, and they did this long, lurid story about how migrants were being chased by the Border Patrol, chased all the way into the desert to avoid the Border Patrol, dying of thirst and exposure.
Their whole premise was false, because the opposite is true.
As all of your listeners know, the Border Patrol has become the welcome wagon.
But this false story—they hid the real story that the border's wide open, and they nursed this sense of grievance and sympathy for the migrant.
And then I remember the MAGA kid, Nick Sandman, D.C.
Now, Mr. Kersey, I'm sure you remember that, too.
That was quite an encounter.
NPR smeared him as instigating the whole thing.
You could watch on YouTube in real time and see that they were flat out lying, says our listener.
No, I think it's important to learn what the fashionable people think and why they think it, and it's important to realize that I don't think they're lying most of the time.
They just believe their own baloney, but there's an enormous amount of stuff that they fail to convey because that would give the wrong impression.
Well, you know what, Mr. Taylor?
I'm going to leave the self-masochistic tendencies for you listening to NPR to you and our great listeners.
No, it's important.
It's important.
You have to listen to the other side.
Figure out just what these people are at least trying to think.
I read the WAPO, the New York Times, and Wall Street Journal, and try to understand those perspectives.
Okay.
That's almost as good.
WAPO and the New York Times.
Democracy dies in darkness, says WAPO.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
A lot of darkness, they shine.
I will say this.
Our listener is very much correct when he Well, I have no interest in listening to those guys.
Oh, Dan Bongino sometimes will come on the radio.
I don't care for him.
There's not a single conservative talk show host that I really have any respect for.
Absolutely.
Well, I have no interest in listening to those guys.
Oh, Dan Bongino sometimes will come on the radio.
I don't care for him.
I mean, there's not a single conservative talk show host that I really have any respect
for.
A guy who's pretty funny is Chris Plant.
He's a Washington, he's a DC area guy.
He says some very funny things, but he's always just exaggerating in just the most absurd
way.
In any case, let us move on to other commenters.
I don't consider many large metro areas to be American anymore.
Places such as LA, New York, and Chicago.
I have no desire to visit ever again.
They are foreign countries.
Part of me actually hopes they continue to send migrants to those places so that progressives and spineless Republicans are finally confronted with reality.
The only thing limp-wrist conservatives can say is, we love immigration.
Yes, we need more immigration.
Just make sure you do it legally.
I believe, says our commenter, Western Civilization, at this point needs to hit rock bottom before there's any significant change.
I remember talking to a therapist once about how I wanted to change a loved one in my life who was making bad decisions.
He gave me the news that, unfortunately, you can't change anyone who doesn't want to change.
Change is painful, and until the pain of changing is greater than the pain of persisting, they won't change.
Well, Mr. Kersey, I think that is entirely true of liberals.
Most of them are able to live away from the consequences of the terrible things they're doing to this country.
But when they actually do live in Chicago or New York City, and those places are overrun with people who don't speak English, don't have jobs, defecate in the streets, live in tents, and terrorize the neighborhood, then maybe they'll change a little bit.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
And I'm sure you've seen the polls.
Even Democrats.
What is it?
The 44% of Democrats in the last poll supported massive deportation.
So maybe our answer is correct.
Yeah, about 42% of Democrats.
And again, you can You can insulate yourself even in those type of places.
Even the greatest adherent to liberalism, you can still blind yourself momentarily in places like, you know, New York City and Washington, D.C.
even, and Chicago.
Yep, yep, yep.
Well, so long as you can run and hide, but they will come and chase you down wherever you are.
Oh no, here's a tough comment.
Someone wants to know, ask Uncle Jared what he thinks of the Indian Removal Act.
The Indian Removal Act, was it justified?
Ooh, that opens up the whole question of Andrew Jackson.
He was a fascinating guy, by the way.
One of my favorite, favorite books of history or biography is Robert Ramini's book on Andrew Jackson.
He really tells the story in the most fascinating way.
And of course, the Indian Removal Act that was passed in 1830, signed into law by Andrew Jackson, and it ended up Getting rid of the Cherokee and some of the other civilized tribes from the southeast and shipping them out to Oklahoma and other wild places.
And Andrew Jackson figured this just had to be done, otherwise their land would be taken over, they would be decimated, their culture destroyed.
He really thought this was the only way to save Indians from the inevitable depredation of the white men.
It's all part of this colossal tragedy of two different races trying to share the same continent.
And when you think about it, take the Plains Indians, for example.
For their way of life to have continued with the wide open spaces in the Buffalo, we'd have had to set aside half a continent for those people.
And nature abhors a vacuum.
It just wasn't going to work.
And people say that Andrew Jackson's this wicked racist, but Mr. Kersey, you probably know, he adopted a young Indian boy.
I think it was after the Battle of Horseshoe Bend, you may recall, there was a squaw had been killed and this infant child was still being held in this dead lady's arms.
He picked up the child.
He really felt sorry for him.
He took him home and adopted him.
And he treated him absolutely like a son, and he was heartbroken when the fellow died as a teenager.
I don't remember what carried him away.
Also, he would negotiate with Indians before he was president.
He would address them, friends and brothers.
And I don't think this was rank hypocrisy on his part.
He was just trying to deal with a very difficult clash of civilizations.
There was no easy way out.
He thought the Indian Removal Act was a way to at least keep them from being completely
destroyed.
Now, of course, there were contractors that were supposed to take the Indians from the
Caroliners in Georgia, that area, off to Oklahoma.
A lot of them were corrupt, and they took the money, and people were mistreated.
And yes, all that is true.
And that's the story of what happened with Lincoln and his plan for recolonization during
the Civil War.
Exactly.
They absconded with the money, as opposed to building encampments on what is now Haiti.
And it's just, it's one of the tragic stories that there were good intentions.
There were positive intentions to make things, not inhospitable, but to ensure that our posterity
did not have this continued burden of two civilizations, two racial groups clashing.
And we see now the consequences of that.
We certainly do.
We certainly do.
Even the liberals may be beginning to see.
Now, the last comment here, a listener sends in an ad from the United States Mint.
You'll be glad to know, Mr. Kersey, that it's offering for sale a $75 U.S.
Army one-ounce silver medal.
And I will read to you the description.
The obverse design, that is a fancy word for the head's side, depicts continental and modern soldiers at the ready with the weapons of their respective eras.
The continental soldier has got his flintlock and the modern soldier has his M16.
And the description says they represent the continuity of the U.S.
Army since its beginnings and its continuing mission to defend our country.
The inscription says United States Army since 1775.
Well, the description fails to include, but which the accompanying photograph makes very, very clear, the Continental soldier is obviously a white man.
The modern soldier is an African.
Now, what nation would commemorate its own replacement like this?
The United States Army.
Continuity.
Since 1775.
Since 1775.
Used to be for the white people, now Africans.
Well, thank you, listener, for sending that in.
A little bit of a black pill, but if you really want to memorialize the great replacement, you can spend $75 on a U.S.
Army one-ounce silver medal.
Well, Mr. Kersey, the time has come to tell our listeners how to get in touch with us.
We'd love to be gotten in touch with.
We'd love to hear your ideas about stories we should cover.
We love your comments, and I like to hear it when you correct our mistakes.
Mr. Curtis, he never makes mistakes, but I sometimes do, and I crave correction.
And you can get in touch directly with me by going to amren.com, A-M-R-E-N.com, and there you'll find the Contact Us page, and send me a message.
The other way to do it?
Yeah, send me an email.
Because we live here at protonmail.com, once again, that email address is Because we live here at ProtonMail.com and as a lot of our listeners know, you will be added to the New Century Foundation email list where I promise you'll only get one email at most a week.
But I do want to put a plug in what you're going to get this week is a little birdie told me that Mr. Taylor's speech at the April 24th VDARE conference, 26th VDARE conference that he gave
commemorating the Confederacy.
It was very emotional. It will be up in the next day or so.
So I hope to see that included, because it was one of Mr. Taylor's truly, truly resounding
speeches. Just a fantastic, fantastic talk. And it's about 20 minutes. So it's very
well worth your time to sit down and watch Mr. Taylor elucidate on the Confederacy and what it
means when reconciliation has been officially abandoned by the United States government.
Well, you're very kind to sing the speech's praises, Mr. Kersey.
You were there, so you should know.
Well, Mr. Kersey, I believe you have the first story.
These are these people who are trying to wriggle away from the bad reputation that the expression DEI already has.
I think this is fascinating.
DEI as an expression hasn't been current for more than, what, three, four, five years at the most?
And now people are trying to get rid of it because they want to do the same thing, but they have this expression hung around their necks and they don't like it.
Yeah, I would say it's even, it really took off in popularity after the George Floyd chaos, which is coming up on four years.
So this is from the Washington Post.
Again, it's important to read.
Democracy dies in darkness and apparently DEI dies in mockery.
It's getting good.
Dumped political baggage.
Under mounted legal and political pressure, companies DEI tactics are evolving.
In March, Stalbeck, Starbuck, Starbuck, Stalbeck, Roger Stahl back.
In March, Starbucks got shareholder approval to replace representation goals with talent performance for executive bonus incentives.
At Molson Coors, people and planet metrics have displaced environmental, social, and governance, ESG, goals, and the acronym DEI has disappeared altogether.
Amid growing legal and social political backlash, American businesses, industry groups, and employment professionals are quietly scrubbing DEI from public view, though not necessarily abandoning its practice.
As they rebrand programs and hot button acronyms, they're reassessing decades old anti-discrimination
strategies, i.e. those that promote exclusively BIPOCs at the expense of white employees,
and are rewriting policies that once emphasized race and gender prioritize inclusion for all.
It's a stark contrast to 2020 when the murder of George Floyd unleashed a racial justice
movement that prompted companies to double down on policies aimed to increase opportunity
for groups that have historically faced discrimination.
Less than a year after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action in colleges and universities,
a landmark ruling found race-conscious admissions violated the right to equal treatment under
the Constitution.
Thank you.
A growing contingent of critics is arguing that DEI creates inequities, inequalities of its own.
And many companies have held on to their programs since SCOTUS ruled against Harvard and the UNC, University of North Carolina, last June.
Six companies after the ruling.
The employment law firm Littler Mendelsohn reported that 91% of the 320 executives surveyed said the ruling had not lessened their prioritization of DEI.
their prioritization of DEI. In fact, 57% said they had expanded, they had expanded
their DEI programming in the past year. But that sentiment was far more subdued than it
was in 2020 when corporate America poured more than $50 billion, yes, I said $50 billion
into the racial justice cause. Meanwhile, the DEI industry, which was worth an estimated
$9 billion in 2023, according to Market Researcher Fact, is also rethinking its public face,
Horton say.
Nine billion dollars, the DEI industry.
I guess those are people who come in and tell you how insufficient your DEI initiatives are.
So, sounds like a great thing to be a consultant in, Mr. Taylor.
You'd be able to probably charge $150 to $200 an hour if you just went ahead and reversed your position and said, I am an expert in helping you maneuver the legal Uh, the, the legal, the legal waters to make sure that you are flourishing and an ocean of DEI, as opposed to the toxicity.
Right?
So, last fall, a few months after the Harvard UNC decision, Taylor was already noticing growing antipathy toward the methods that the companies, institutions of higher education, other organization used to diversify to use to increase diversity in their ranks.
So instead of referring to DEI, Taylor switched to calling those efforts IED, putting the focus on inclusion as DEI accrued cultural and political baggage.
SHR and the Human Resources Association heads changed the name of its annual DEI conference to Inclusion 2023.
A growing number of companies, including language app Duolingo, JetBlue, and Molson Coors are
either listing DEI as a risk factor as a, again, repeat, this is amazing, a growing
number of companies, including language app Duolingo, JetBlue, and Molson Coors are either
listing DEI as a risk factor in their shareholder reports or removing mentions of diversity
goals outright.
As Bloomberg- Well, Mr. Kersey, I wonder what they mean by DEI as a risk
factor.
Are they really thinking this is a risk of litigation?
Are they afraid of being sued if they hoop up DEI?
That's a really interesting concept that DEI should now be considered a risk factor.
I think that's very significant if that's what they're worried about.
Well, you have to wonder if they're worried about Stephen Miller's nonprofit taking them over.
I hope so.
I hope so.
All the companies that are sued on behalf of the white employees who were either passed over or who have negatively, well, not benefited, but who have seen their opportunities completely at odds with the whole DEI industry.
And then think about all the universities that have been sued when they have scholarships that are exclusively for BIPOCs.
And a proxy statement Oh, I'm sorry.
Several companies, including Kohl's, Salesforce, and Workday, have dropped references to diversity goals and regulatory filings, the Wall Street Journal reported.
In a proxy statement last year, Starbucks said it was holding our senior leaders collectively accountable for goals that focus on improvement in Black, Indigenous, and Latinx representation at the manager level.
It also had goals around executive mentorship for Buy Box employees, scores on inclusive leadership surveys, and other metrics.
But starting this year, Starbucks is weighting its incentive Plan more forward, more toward financial performance.
Amazing!
Amazing!
They actually want to make a profit, rather than be- The stock is down significantly.
I used to think, Mr. Taylor, that coffee, Starbucks, was a recession-proof industry, but if you've paid attention to their stock, their market cap drop, and the fact that people are really beginning to pull back on just- because coffee, again, it's a need.
It's a want, not a need.
And for most people's economic pursuits and, you know, paying eight bucks for a cup of coffee at the airport or at your local Starbucks just doesn't make much sense anymore.
So, I know you scoff at that because you're the kind of guy who has Folgers.
Well, I hate Starbucks anyway.
The last place I would buy a cup of coffee is Starbucks and I don't think I would even buy it there.
I'm happy to go without.
No, I mean, I'm fine with the Tom Brady-approved Dunkin' Donuts.
But again, let me just repeat that again.
Starbucks is having an incentive plan tethering financial performance to representation-related rewards to talent goals.
The company's 2024 proxy statement references a goal to ensure that leaders have accountability for creating a cultural of belonging.
It's been estimated that 35 to 40 percent of large cap companies, those with market capitalizations of $10 billion or more, No, no, no.
Some DEI targets in their executive bonus criteria, about half of them frame these policies
around quantitative targets, while the rest take a more qualitative approach.
Still, companies are treading carefully, given the legal climate, given the risk that is
DEI.
And again, we were told by one of our amazing listeners that DEI, day, I believe that is,
what is that in Greek mythology?
No, no, no.
Day in Latin means God.
Day in Latin.
It's a new religion.
God. It's a new religion.
I'm sorry, yes, I'm sorry. And of course, we know what an IED is, an Implevised Explosive Device.
I know, I like that.
Yeah, I guess that's what diversity goals inherently are for a company. It's just going
to implode what type of quality of life had been created for that organization. Because,
I mean, Mr. Taylor, we're not going to talk about it, but I want to bring it up because
DEI really has shown to be an IED.
Think about the Boy Scouts of America.
They were sued about 11 years ago.
I think they declared bankruptcy for not being inclusive enough.
And now they've gotten rid of the whole name Boy Scouts because it's not inclusive.
And, you know, I was a Boy Scout up until Weblo.
And then I was like, I don't want to do this.
I just realized I just didn't like it.
I didn't want to have to be one of those guys who wore the uniform to school because At that point, Gurl started to make fun of that, so I was like, hey, okay.
But to see that, yeah, actually two of my best friends went on to be Eagle Scouts, and they didn't tell anyone about it.
They never, it was something they were just hush-hush about because they wanted it for their college resumes when they applied.
Well, Mr. Kurzy, what strikes me about the story you've just read is all of these companies, they seem to be maintaining this preferential, these preferences for non-whites.
And the only reason they would not do so is for the fear of being sued, or they are just changing the name and concealing it.
But the idea that they shouldn't discriminate against white people doesn't seem to have occurred to them.
That's really the remarkable thing.
It doesn't matter if it's wrong.
It doesn't matter if, in effect, these at least still somewhat white administrative classes and executive suites I was having a swig of water when I was listening to you talk there.
You're right.
But again, it's not just idiot white people running the country, it's idiot affirmative action individuals who have been promoted above their weight, who have no incentive to say, oh gosh, I got this position because of my color of my skin, not Not due to my talents, not due to my, um, the only value I bring to this company is the color of my skin or the box that I check off, whether it's for a diversity goal, whether it's, you know, a homosexual individual, uh, a Latinx, et cetera, et cetera.
I mean, that's the problem.
Merit, again, merit is at the end of the day, I don't think merit actually is all that important.
I think just being able to discriminate and have a freedom of association, that's what's important.
But if we're going to be a colorblind society with merit, we have to actually get rid of these DEI initiatives because that places DEI or IED above the individual's capabilities.
Crazy.
Well, let's move along.
This is a pretty lengthy story, but it was one I thought that was particularly significant.
And it talks about the changing demographic mix of people pouring across the border now.
And it says, before the pandemic, roughly 9 out of 10 migrants crossing the border illegally came from Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, or El Salvador.
The four countries closest to the border.
Makes sense.
Those countries are no longer the majority.
As of last year, 2023, it's the first time since the U.S.
has collected these data, half of all migrants who cross the border now come from someplace else.
More than half.
In 2019, for example, the number of Colombians—I mean, they're still south of the border, but they are not of the four that are closest to our southern border—the number of Colombians caught was 40.
I beg your pardon, 400.
In 2023, it was 154,080.
bigger part, 400. In 2023, it was 154,080. So it went from 400 to 154,000. Now between 2019 and 2024, that's a span of
four years, the number of Chinese increased 11 fold, and the Indians five fold.
It's a good thing.
In 2019, the total number of people from the Northwest African nation of Mauritania—do you know where Mauritania is on the map, Mr. Kersey?
I bet most Americans— I've never heard of the nation of Mauritania.
You've never heard of the nation?
No, I've never heard of that nation.
It's the sistership of the Lusitania, which was sunk in the First World War.
No, Mauritania, that is one of the old Roman Empire names for part of the empire, Mauritania.
But there's a country of that name.
And it is just south of what used to be the colony of Spanish Sahara, and just north of, I believe, Senegal.
In any case, I've actually been there, believe it or not.
In any case, Mauritanians—I mean, they might as well be Martians, to the extent to which Americans are familiar with the idea of a Mauritanian.
Let's see, the number that I apprehended in the Southern Board in 2019 was 20, and four years later, 15,260.
Now we have communities of Mauritanians.
For migrants from Turkey, the number went from 60 to 15,430.
Between 2014 and 2022, the average number of, yes, Chinese, let's see, as I said, they went from 1,400 to 24,050.
More than 50 nationalities saw apprehensions multiplied by 100 or more.
I mean, we've got a real United Nations down there at the southern border.
from 1,400 to 24,050.
More than 50 nationalities saw apprehensions multiplied by 100 or more.
I mean, we've got a real United Nations down there at the southern border.
And here's the story of Wei Bin, a middle-aged man from the Chinese city of Tianjin.
He came across with his 14-year-old son.
Wei said the economic damage done to China by the pandemic, coupled with repressive zero-COVID policies, led him to think his country offered no viable future for his son.
He described a 45-day journey that they spent.
Sounds pretty grueling.
They first flew to Ecuador.
One of the few countries in the Americas that accept visa-free travel from China.
So Chinese can just hop on a plane, bim, and they find themselves in Ecuador.
The trip was arranged by Chinese smugglers.
They're known amongst the Chinese as snakeheads.
He communicated with them exclusively via WeChat and paid for everything online, never actually met anyone.
And the smuggler's services cost about $10,000 for each of them.
So $20,000 he paid up, but in return he got precise instructions on where and how to meet an interlocking series of local contacts, often members of pre-existing criminal smuggling networks based in each of the countries he traveled through.
And it was these smugglers—these were Ecuadorians, Colombians, Mexicans—who did the actual work of moving him from place to place.
And can you imagine this?
You've got an international, interlocking network of people who are making this happen, and they're making a lot of money.
And as this article says, this massive influx of people from everywhere wouldn't have been possible without transcontinental smuggling networks like this one.
And as it turns out, different networks specialize in specific nationalities.
So, if you're a Somali, you show up in Quito, Ecuador.
That's one of the countries where, if you're a Somali, you can show up without a visa.
Then you join a happy little group of fellow Somalis that is already on its way.
And one smuggler hands you off to another, and the network of relationships goes all the way up to the U.S.-Mexico border.
They're all specialized.
There is the Somali bandwagon, the China bandwagon.
The industry owes an enormous amount to technology.
That's an extraordinary story.
Yes, the world's migrants now all have smartphones.
And that means they can communicate all the time and pay as needed.
Smugglers advertise all around the world on TikTok, WeChat, WhatsApp, on whatever platform is popular in the country that they are targeting.
Now, there is a WeChat profile of a Chinese snakehead.
I guess a snakehead is the equivalent of a coyote south of the border in the Latin American countries.
This guy posts videos of happy Chinese on the trail.
This is meant to entice new customers.
There are smiling men flashing thumbs up outside a hotel in Mexico, families riding happily on buses.
In one video, a woman crosses the border into the U.S.
and shouts, We made it!
in Mandarin, as her small child jumps up and down and shouts joyfully in the background.
Wouldn't that make anybody want to make the trip?
As it turns out, at the really interesting pinch points, these smuggling networks are controlled by the most powerful criminal organizations in the Americas.
Now, you've all heard of the Darien Gap.
That is the only gap in the Pan American Highway.
It's not paved.
And this area in the border between Venezuela and Panama, it was pretty jungling.
Until recently, when the crossing of the Gap was taken over by the Gulf Clan, one of these narco-paramilitary cartels, until then it was considered nearly impassable, and that was a really difficult part of the route up to El Norte.
Now it's a route for mass migration traversed by hundreds of thousands of years.
They have cleared huge, almost like highways, through the jungle, and the fact merely of having made the transition across the Darien Gap so much easier, and of course so much more profitable because they make lots of money per head by the Gulf clan, this all by itself accounts for a substantial rise in the number of global arrivals at the border.
I wonder if this company outsources its IT when they're doing the work with WeWork, when they're doing this conversation with that software, if they've outsourced to some company in India.
So these Indians don't even realize they're helping facilitate this massive invasion because they've been outsourced just to have even more layers of complexity and the nuances of how this smuggling Yes, it's an industry.
It's an absolute industry, a worldwide industry to funnel all of these people we don't want into the United States of America.
Before you tell the story, I'm just blown away by what's happening, just how sophisticated.
Yes, it's an industry.
It's an absolute industry, a worldwide industry to funnel all of these people we don't want
in the United States of America.
Now the smuggling business is on the right at the U.S.-Mexico border, is now dominated
by the Sinaloa and Jalisco New Generation drug cartels.
And these days, these border hoppers don't attempt to evade the Border Patrol.
Of course, they willingly surrender in order to apply for asylum.
And NGOs, of course, tell them the magic words, all the things they need to say.
And this article goes on to say, the system was optimized to apprehend and quickly deport single adults from Mexico.
It's badly equipped to process families and children.
And the U.S.
has the capacity to deport people quickly and in large numbers only to Mexico and those three countries I mentioned earlier, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.
When it comes to trying to kick him out to other places, it is not very good at doing that.
The U.S., let's see.
It is logistically challenging and expensive to send people far away.
You need airplanes.
You need people to do it.
You need to have to arrange for travel documents.
You need to persuade the destination countries to let them in.
There is just no infrastructure in place to deport 15,000 Mauritanians back to Mauritania, even to South America.
And some of these places, some of these places won't take their people back.
Nicaragua.
Nicaragua is not friendly to us.
It allows visa-free travel to more than two dozen African countries and several from Asia.
That makes it a major arrival point, but it won't take people back.
China does not ordinarily accept deportees in the United States either.
And as it turns out, as you know, and as all our listeners probably know, as soon as you set foil on the magic dirt of America, it doesn't matter how you got here, doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter where you came from, you can ask for asylum.
And we can't So there you go.
This is really quite a story.
I really enjoyed getting into the details of just how it all works.
And the smartphones, when you think about it, the Internet has made this so much easier.
If you were trying to get from China into the United States, and you were going through—where did you go through?
Guatemala, wherever it was?
No, I guess you went to Ecuador, was it?
And then you have to figure it out one stage at a time.
No, it's all just smooth as silk.
They all contact each other.
They are all in touch and you get handed off.
It's like a baton touch.
Just a precision pass in the finals of the Olympic four by 100 meter race.
It's amazing.
But here they are.
And here is a different story.
And I would title this how to deport $20 million.
Donald Trump Despite the difficulties we described in the previous story—and that all sounds realistic, you know, getting people on board airplanes.
Man, you only have Turks.
How many tens of thousands of Turks did I say?
Got to get them back to Turkey.
That's not cheap.
But Donald Trump has vowed to deliver the largest mass deportation effort in American history.
He will target millions of illegals.
He would leverage local law enforcement, the National Guard, and the military to carry this out.
Like the dragnet-style sweeps of Operation Wetback, says this story, under Dwight Eisenhower that shipped more than a million back to Mexico in 1954.
But all they did was have to heave them across the border.
They didn't have to take them all the way to the Mauritania.
The $20 million claim for the Trump campaign That's what Trump and his advisors are saying is the number of illegals in the country is not an unreasonable estimate, given the record-breaking number of illegals swarming across the border under Biden.
Tom Homan, who's a good man, by the way, I've heard him speak several times, really solid, former acting director of ICE under Trump, he said the agency has systems in place that are very good at identifying people.
But Deportations depend on the resources at hand.
He says a lot is going to be up to Congress.
Uh-oh.
We need officers.
We need detention beds.
We need transportation contracts because we would have more flights heading out of the country and more bus removals down to the border.
He says we would still prioritize criminals and national security threats first.
They're the most dangerous. He says, I say no one is safe or should be safe. If you're in this
country illegally, we will remove you. Ooh, that just sends thrills up and down my spine.
That's the kind of language that is resonating, as we know, with
42%?
Yep, yep, yep.
A couple of weeks ago, even Democrats are on board with, nearly a majority are on board
with mass deportations.
42%.
Yep, yep, yep.
But he says, and this is a real problem, he says this will require a whole government
approach.
Every part of the government that has anything to do with immigration has a role to play
here from health and human services, all full of bleeding heart liberals who want just the
the sickest, most helpless people in the country, so their programs can grow, grow, grow.
Then the State Department, full of crazy liberals.
The U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services, not quite so liberal, but still not very reliable.
And so, apart from the reluctance of a possible Democrat-controlled Congress The chances of funding more enforcement operations, the Trump administration could run into real problems.
The State Department, if it had to, could use Section 243D of the Immigration and Nationality Act to get people who refuse to take their miscreants back to do so, because it's right there in the law.
You can stop issuing visas to countries, to their citizens who want to come here, Legitimately, if they don't take their losers back.
And as Holman says, when a country hears that the United States will not allow its residents in to the United States, if they don't take their people back, they cooperate quickly.
I bet they do.
I bet even the Chinese would cooperate quickly.
But, so, you know, this, I'm delighted that this has become such a central issue in this campaign.
And if anything sinks Joe Biden, I think it will probably be this.
As you say, even the Democrats want these people out, out, out, out, damn spot, out!
They want them out.
So, now, I gather in Denver, in Denver, you are being invited to open your house, open your home to illegals.
Yeah, this is a story that I almost didn't believe, and then I saw it.
Oh, I believe it.
I believe it.
I know, I know.
We're talking about white people, Mr. Kersey.
I guess like you said, as you've always said, you know, imagine this.
Well, I can imagine pretty much anything.
Well, here we are now in the current year.
Denver sets up Hosts Migrants in Your Home hotline.
It's encouraging.
By the way, I've been to Denver a number of times.
I love Denver.
Obviously, I don't like the New Denver, where every drug is legal, and now you've got this insanity going on.
But guess what?
You've got a city government that is encouraging residents to host migrant families in their home, and they've set up a hotline.
A hotline, so people can volunteer to take in illegals who have nowhere else to go.
Huh.
Wonder where they came from.
That's where they can go back to.
Fox 31 in Denver reports that charity calling itself Hope Has No Borders began pairing migrant workers and their families with hosts in Colorado in late 2023.
Now with help from the United Way, getting paired up in a simple phone call away by dialing 2-1-1.
So by the way, everybody listening to this, do not write a check To the nonprofit United Way, your money will be going to help set up a program where families are encouraged to house illegal aliens.
So a news segment on Fox 31 detailed how one resident happily took in a family of four migrants after seeing that they are camping out in airports and on streets because all the shelters are full.
The woman, Erin Lennon, is a single mom with a spare bedroom, according to the report.
Not a rich liberal with an eight-bedroom house.
And by the way, this story was on Zero Hedge.
There might be a little bit of commentary.
It was by Paul Joseph Watson, so it's got that great, great line of his, imagine our shock, when it's a single mom with a spare bedroom, not someone with, you know, multiple empty bedrooms, living in a, you know, a 5,000 square foot home.
The report notes that Lennon's young son was very nervous at first about the idea of taking in strangers, but she states, some of the greatest things that you know, that you do or have done, has been involved with some risk.
Yes, putting the risk of your biological blood your son is a risk. It's a risk that you have to take
because, hey, as we know, hope has no borders. Except, I guess there's no hope within the
borders of the country that these illegals came from. But anyways, that's a paradox for
another day.
As we previously highlighted, this kind of thing is happening in several cities nationwide
and in states. The state of Michigan is even offering $500 per month to residents who agree
to house illegal immigrants in their homes.
It's kind of shocking, Mr. Taylor, that a enterprising individual hasn't tried to buy maybe a, uh, maybe a mansion in Detroit, uh, you know, that's kind of dilapidated and try and put up as many illegals as they could.
If you're getting $500 per illegal, imagine you get an eight bedroom home for, oh gosh,
say $75,000 that's been sitting in Detroit and you're able to put in what, eight people?
That's $4,000 per month right there that you could have.
That's definitely more than the mortgage on the home.
Wait, eight bedrooms?
Come on.
You could put in 32 people, 40 people.
Think big, Mr. Kersey.
You got to think big.
So if you just put, okay, if you put in 10, that's 5,000 a month.
So if you put in 20, that's 10,000 a month and your mortgage on that house would probably
be under $1,000 if you didn't pay it outright in cash.
So again, as the American empire collapses around us, there are kind of, well, again,
I don't want to make light of the situation, but again, our rulers have made light of our history by destroying it and going to war with it and trying to do everything they can to ensure that we don't have a future.
But there are going to be people who are going to profit off of the end of the empire.
That happens in every empire.
And what we're seeing right now is just kind of the blood-curdling stuff that just I never thought we'd see in our lifetime as just the degradation of our society and our way of life continues at a pace that, again, it's alarming going back.
Again, to make people white-pilled, there's going to be significant change in the next couple years.
And if there's not, we're going to see red states probably institute programs like this, if the trajectory continues.
Well, Mr. Kersey, I wonder who gets sued when one of those lovely migrants that this single lady happened to take in turns out to be a hatchet murderer or multiple rapist.
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
I wonder who's going to be held accountable.
Certainly not the poor deer who actually did the hatchet murder or the raping.
But just a little question that occurs to me.
Now you see the money angle.
I see the liability angle.
What does that say about you and me, Mr. Kersey?
You're going to make more money than... What's that?
I'm pointing out, as the American empire comes to its tragic and lamentable, well, much-needed end, you know, we're going to see stuff like this.
I do agree with the liability.
I think it's disgusting that a mother would put her son in this situation and she'd say a risk is needed in this scenario.
To me, it's like, you don't need to risk your son's life.
I mean, we've seen this in Europe.
How many stories have we talked about during this program of people who take in migrants only to then be beheaded or be killed?
That's right.
It's the reason why there is a pushback beginning to start all across Europe and in this country and why things are fascinating and why, again, you never know what's going to happen.
But I want to come back to something we talked about last week.
I do want to encourage, because as of right now, Mr. Taylor is not back on Twitter.
I refuse to call it X. We do want to get him back on.
So please, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a Twitter, please tweet at Elon Musk to ask him nicely.
Mr. Musk, please let J.R.
Taylor back on Twitter.
Please let American Renaissance back on Twitter.
That's it.
Please.
And if you wish to identify us by our handles, it is at J.R.
Taylor, J-A-R-T-A-Y-L-O-R, and at AmRenaissance.
Yes, that would be a signal surface.
I'm still out in the cold, out wailing in the darkness.
But let's see, another story about immigration.
We've got a lot to say about immigration. A majority of Americans say they believe people
who are trying to immigrate to the United States today have worse character than those who came 50
years ago, according to a new Axios survey. What do you know? 62% on an online survey of 6,000.
adults said they believe that the people wanting to come here, the people coming here, have a bad character compared to those of 50 years ago.
Isn't that interesting?
Compared to, say, 1975?
Well, and the percentages are not at all anything that would surprise you.
The ones who say worst character, 76% of Republicans, excuse me, 53% of Democrats, And 60% of independents.
Of course, if you were to go back 50 years and see what people thought about the immigrants they were getting then, they would probably have said in exactly the same proportions that today's immigrants are worse than the ones we were getting 50 years ago.
The fact is, Mr. Kersey, as you know, there has never been a time when you had any kind of across-the-board survey of Americans that said, we want more immigrants.
Never has that been the case.
Never, ever, ever, ever.
But because we don't live in a democracy, democracy is subverted in all sorts of scurvy ways, the American people don't get what they want.
Now, this is quite an interesting story.
An AFD alternative for Deutschland politician by the name of Marie-Therese Kaiser, Quite a nice-looking young lady, I must say.
She's now been convicted for publishing gang rape statistics in response to news that Afghan migrants would be moved into her district.
The 27-year-old politician was found guilty in the regional court in Lower Saxony for inciting hatred, and she has got to stump up a fine of €6,000.
I think that's about $7,000.
And she will now have a criminal record.
The case relates to a post from August 2021.
The wheels of justice grind slow sometimes in Germany.
In which she made a post on social media and she wrote, Afghanistan refugees.
Hamburg SPD mayor, that is the Social Democratic Party mayor, she says, This is an unbureaucratic admission welcoming a culture for gang rape?
This was in response to news that the mayor of Hamburg, the SPD guy, Peter Tschetscher, was going to let in 200 Afghan workers.
They were going to be fetid and hosannid as they came to Hamburg.
And she says, welcoming culture for gang rape?
And so Ms.
Kaiser protested that decision with her statistics, saying she was concerned about immigration and the potential for rape from culturally alien masses.
And as it turns out, the Afghans' role in serious crimes, including rape and gang rapes, is enormously high relative to their population.
Now, the fact that she was fined, this has sparked international attention, I'm very glad to say.
Major ex-accounts have been reacting with astonishment and great condemnation at the news of her conviction.
Even Elon Musk has been condemning this with at least two of his posts generating over 40 million views.
All others pointed to statistics showing just how vastly overrepresented Afghans are in rape offenses.
But, and I'm glad to say, this is always so encouraging when somebody gets the short end of the woke stick, absolutely fights back.
She was defiant.
She says, simply naming numbers, dates, and facts is to be declared a criminal offense.
Just because the establishment does not want to face reality, I will not be silenced, she wrote.
So, very good.
Very good.
Go, go.
What is her name?
Marie-Therese Kaiser.
Sounds like a great gal.
Now, Mr. Kersey, this will be our last immigration story.
We have been heavy on immigration, but I understand that in Britain, that the arrival of immigrants has been bad for the economy.
Surprise, surprise.
Yeah, we've been immigrant heavy, but this is kind of a story where it's like, okay, then what's the point of this policy if it's not actually driving economic growth?
Telegraph reports that migration has failed to drive economic growth, Warren's report.
Give me one second here.
Robert Kendrick calls for cap on new arrivals at a drop in GDP per person.
Record levels of immigration have failed to boost the economy while making the housing
crisis worse, a leading think tank has warned.
This is in regards to the United Kingdom.
In a report co-authored by former immigration minister Robert Kindrick, the Center for Policy
Studies urged the government to introduce caps on legal immigration to stop a drain
on British infrastructure and public services that is not offset by economic growth.
In particular, high levels of immigration are significantly exacerbating the housing
crisis.
The report, which was jointly authored with former health minister Neil O'Brien, also
suggested home office should be broken up to create a new department to control immigration.
I would suggest the Committee for the Remigration of You know, the former Commonwealth, as the British Empire is completely gone, and there's no reason that the empire has to take in all of the people they used to lord over.
It came after data published showed British consumers are suffering the longest drop in living standards in the G7 as the economy fails to keep up.
up, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, said GDP per person fell
for four quarters in a row across 2023 in the UK.
And it has been at, it's just been nonexistent or less since spring of 2020.
Although, Britain's economy rose by 0.1 basis points across 2023 on a per person basis.
It fell by 0.8, the OECD said.
Say that again.
It rose in absolute terms, but on a per capita term, all people in Britain are poorer because the economy grew a little bit, but the population grew even more.
Correct.
That's correct.
This measure accounts for population growth, which in UK was the second highest.
and the group of seven advanced economies. The figure was in stark contrast to the G7 average
where GDP per capita rose by 1.2 last year as opposed to the 0.1 we saw in England,
but on a per person basis it fell by 0.8.
So yeah, you can see that migration is certainly not an economic impact in a positive manner.
Quote, if large scale migration of the sort we've seen is really so great for the economy, we have to ask ourselves why we are not seeing this in the GDP per capita data, the CPS report warned.
To alleviate pressure on housing, the NHS said The NHS and schools, the CPS said net migration should be capped at just tens of thousands a year, down from its peak of 745,000 people to Great Britain in 2022.
Again, I would say it should be capped at zero, and the remigration department should be in full force, sending people out of my native land, and your native land, I believe.
Analysis of Home Office showed the impact of the shift from EU to non-EU migrants. Migrants from
the Middle East, North Africa and Turkey aged 25 to 64 were almost twice as likely to be economically
inactive as someone born in the UK. Again, twice as likely to be economically inactive as someone
born in the UK. Again, this policy of mass non-white migration to Britain is an act of punishment.
That's what immigration is.
I think Greg Hood, James Kirkpatrick, whichever iteration you want to talk about, he's basically said that in 2024, or in this century, immigration is seen as punishment against the indigenous population.
And that's what we're seeing in the United States.
That's what we're seeing in France.
That's what we're seeing in Germany, that's what we're seeing in the United Kingdom, we're seeing in Ireland, and of course we're seeing a great pushback against that.
The great Irish people, as Keith Woods has documented, and it's been incredible what's happening there.
These just spontaneous uprisings of the indigenous Irish saying no more.
Yes, it's marvellous, absolutely marvellous.
I wish them every success.
Yeah, and to go back to say what you're talking about with this beautiful German female who was fined, you said, I think, what, $5,000?
5,000 euros.
Think about what happened a couple weeks ago when Eva, again I can't remember how you pronounce her last name, but she spoke at CPAC Hungary, and she basically came out and said Europe has the right to exist as it did before the post-World War II paradigm set in, and that is we have the right to be Europeans.
The Great Replacement is happening.
It's a fact.
And I just, I think, and again, I don't know if you had a chance to read Jeremy Carl's book yet, which is about the, just, it's one of the best looks at just how anti-white things are in this country.
But this is being talked about by some of the very key conservatives.
I hate that term, by the way.
But, you know, right of center people who understand that this can't go on.
It's about time.
It's about time.
We've been talking about it for 30 years.
That's an amazing book, Mr. Taylor.
I don't know if you knew this, but Maine is, of course, the whitest state in the Union at about 90%.
And in 1960, There were 33 states that were even whiter than Maine is now.
You think about what that means in terms of the impact of non-white immigration and just the proliferation of just insane policies that, as we see now in the United Kingdom, I think if you had a similar study, it would actually be far worse, the economic impact of immigrants and migrants.
Legal migrants.
Because this report doesn't even mention illegal, which we know England is being inundated with illegals.
On the subject of the Jeremy Carl book, we are publishing a review this Friday.
Quite an extensive review by Roger Devlin, who always writes really solidly researched, carefully argued pieces, and I agree, it looks like it.
He's a gentleman.
He's an area day guy.
I like him immensely.
Yes, yes, a wonderful fellow.
And, you know, it is very gratifying that people are finally pointing out just how voraciously anti-white these policies are.
And this guy goes into it in considerable detail.
But it would be nice to have been recognized for you and I, people like us, having said these things.
You and I are completely absent from the bibliography, I understand, but that's the way it goes.
If you unwittingly take credit for things, you might be able to get a few things done.
But it is extremely gratifying that mainstream people are No, I just want to point out again, people like Jeremy Carl, people who are coming around and talking about this stuff, it's so important because again, these ideas are out there.
They're not hard to find.
You can go to different sources.
It's okay because your videos are no longer censored on Twitter.
It's amazing the proliferation of Jared Taylor videos from six, seven, eight years ago that get That's crazy.
That's crazy.
of views on a number of these, you know, on Twitter postings.
And before, under the old regime, none of those would be there.
And I think the point is, somebody asked, well, what if, is Jared going to be, they
asked me, they said, hey, you know, is your co-host, is he ever going to get on Tucker?
And it's like, in a lot of ways, it'd be great, that'd be amazing, it would be validation,
but isn't the fact that all these ideas were winning, they're everywhere now, isn't that
more of a validation?
Because every message that Jared Taylor has had, every message that all of us have been
shouting, think about Pat Buchanan, who back in 2017, that was a great politico,
True.
article about him and he said my ideas won, I didn't. It's okay and I think
that's the most important thing because eventually there will be, again we want
to win, we want to have a country, that's it and it doesn't matter if you get a
poke, a pat on the head by you know the last vestiges of conservatism Inc.
People out there know, you know, Jeremy Carl is a good guy, and he's written something that he wanted to make digestible to people who might be afraid of picking up a whitey on the moon or white identity.
Again, this will lead people.
It's, dare I say it, it's a gateway drug in a lot of ways.
Oh, I think so.
I think so.
Well, let's finish with a look on the lighter side.
Sometimes our dusky brethren do get up to remarkable antics.
In this case, it was a Clenard Parker, age 22, of Texas.
He was denied a commercial driver's license, and so he used an 18-wheel truck And he rammed it into the Texas Department of Safety building in Brenham, a rural town 75 miles west of Houston.
The branch issues driver's licenses, and his application for a commercial license had been rejected the day before.
Three people had to be airlifted to the hospital with critical injuries, and three more were transported to the scene in serious condition.
One person died.
Parker himself was pulled out of the truck by several officers and did not resist arrest.
He'd been told the day before that he was just not going to get his license.
So he got a hold of an 18-wheeler, Rammed it right into the office.
The crash left a gaping hole in the side of the building and littered the parking lot with debris.
Now, I know, Mr. Kersey, we do get frustrated by the Department of Motor Vehicles sometimes, but this strikes me as just a touch extreme.
Well, Mr. Kersey, as always happens, we're running out of time.
We have so much more to say, and we have such a good time saying it.
But all good things come to an end, and this is no exception.
Ladies and gentlemen, we really do appreciate this time we've spent with you.
It really is a joy and an honor.
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