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Mayorkas Impeached

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey look into dereliction of duty at the border. They also discuss European opposition to immigration, NPR’s worries, Josh Schriver, and more good work by Stephen Miller. Thumbnail credit: © Rod Lamkey/CNP via ZUMA Press Wire

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
I'm your host, Jared Hader.
And with me is my indispensable co-host, none other than Paul Kersey.
Today is February 16th, two days after Valentine's Day.
And I hope you all had a very pleasant Valentine's Day.
And let's see.
We'd like to begin, as we ordinarily do, with listener comments.
Now, the first comment, Mr. Kersey, is one that I blame you for.
And I'll tell you why.
It's a correction.
It's a correction for a mistake, once again, I made.
But it's the kind of mistake that you, with your retentive mind and your photographic memory, almost always correct me.
But this time you didn't.
So I blame you.
It had to do, we were talking about Marilyn Mosby, the Baltimore prosecutor and African-Americanist, who is now facing serious criminal charges.
And I mistakenly said that it was she who, during the Baltimore riots, said that she had told the police to stand back and give the Baltimore riders space to destroy.
Well, it was not Marilyn Mosby.
As it turns out, one of our listeners explained, it was Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, yet another African-Americaness.
So, there you go.
Now, just a few more fun facts about ex-mayor Rawlings-Blake.
She was later appointed secretary of the DNC, the Democratic National Committee, serving under W. Wasserman Schultz, and in 2015, she became the first ex-mayor ever to appear in a musical in Chicago as part of an ensemble act.
Well, that's real distinction, Frank.
But no, once again, I made a mistake, and I appreciate our listeners keeping us on the straight and narrow.
Let's see, another comment here.
Firstly, I would like to say your writings and speeches were pivotal in my life.
Wow.
It was about six years ago that I found your speeches on the subject of white identity.
I've since found Christ, got married, and thanks to God, I've had two sons with more to follow.
Atta boy!
These key moments in my life were in part due to your awakening my inner Mayflower.
I like that.
Do you have an inner Mayflower, Mr. Kirsten?
Oh, I've got an inner Mayflower, a Maria, a Santa, and all the ships that Columbus sailed, Mr. Taylor.
What was the name of the, well, okay, the inner Mayflower.
Let's see.
That aside, says the commenter, I write to ask your opinion of Sir John Glubb's writings on the fate of empires.
Now, I cannot claim to be familiar with Sir John Glubb.
But our listener says we're drawing near to the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
In his writings, Glubb remarked that seldom does an empire last longer than 250 years.
I personally believe we are merely living off the life support of our ancestors' hard work, eagerly awaiting a new Washington, Jackson, or Theodore Roosevelt.
So what do you think?
Well, that's a pretty tough question, and I must say that it would not surprise me at all if the United States were to break apart.
In the next, oh, 15, 20 years?
Maybe even sooner.
It would not surprise me at all.
On the other hand, there's so much fat and so much material wealth in this country that it could stagger on, just getting slightly leaner as time goes by, and hold itself together in some sort of ramshackled way.
What is your opinion, Mr. Kurz?
If you were asked, will the United States—well, of course, you have to define what would be the end of empire.
And I would define the end of empire as the United States separating or breaking apart, some bit coming apart.
I think the sense of the end of empire in the terms of our losing the kind of influence we have overseas could come without the United States falling apart.
But what's your view of this?
This is a difficult question.
What's your view?
Yeah, it's a very difficult question, but I think it's one that Pat Buchanan tried to answer in a book, The Suicide of a Superpower.
He said that will the United States, the subtitle, Mr. Taylor, was will the United States survive until 2025?
Obviously, that's a year away now.
It's hard to believe he wrote that, I think, 13, 14 years ago.
But the point is, I think there are a lot of signs.
There are a lot of alarming signs that this empire is on, I wouldn't say its last legs.
But it's becoming increasingly illegitimate in the eyes of the historic American nation, the actual.
And in the eyes of the world.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
And, you know, he's right.
And more kudos to you, by the way.
That was a that was a great letter from from our from our listener reader.
And we appreciate all of those.
So, yes, we certainly do.
He also asked Can you still do the infamous Uncle Jared push-up?
The answer to that question is, yes, I still can.
And for those of you who are unaware of what the infamous Uncle Jared push-up is, you lie down flat on the ground with your arms straight out, straight out over your head, stretched as far as possible.
And then you do push-ups on the tips of your toes and the heels of your hands.
And I can do about a dozen of them.
And it's just a freak of nature, actually.
It's just the way I'm built.
I'm not pretty strong in any other way.
As Mr. Kersey knows, I try to keep in shape, but that's my party trick.
These push-ups that even really strong guys, even guys as strong as you, Mr. Kersey, have a hard time doing them.
I can do a dozen.
It's an admirable feat of strength, I don't know what to say.
As I say, it's a freak of nature.
It's really a freak of nature.
Now, let's see, a final comment here.
Can you have Mr. Taylor expound on, in this week's podcast, why he thinks the Japanese internment camps were justified?
People bring up the fact that they were American citizens who had their constitutional rights suspended.
Also, the Americans most decorated militarily were the 442 Brigade of Japanese Americans.
Well, you know, it's a very interesting thing about what was done with the Japanese.
As you probably know, Mr. Kersey, there was an exclusion zone declared and Japanese Americans had to leave the exclusion zone.
It was all the entire west coast of the United States.
If they didn't live in the exclusion zone, they could stay right where they were.
And if they were to leave the exclusion zone, they could go wherever they liked.
And these so-called internment camps, for the most part, simply were housing that was provided to Japanese and Japanese-Americans who had to leave the exclusion zone, but didn't have any other place to go.
And while they were there, a lot of young people went off to college.
And you see these photographs of children standing behind barbed wire.
The strands of barbed wire are three feet apart.
The sense that we're supposed to get is that they were kept in behind this barbed wire.
The barbed wire is really to keep cattle from wandering into the camp.
It's got nothing to do with keeping them in the camp.
There were some internments, and these were of definitely disloyal Japanese who were loyal to the emperor, who made themselves—who explicitly made that point of view.
Some of them renounced their citizenship.
I can't remember which camp they were in, but that really was an internment camp.
But it was not as gruesome and awful as people suggest.
Whether or not it was justified, I just can't say.
But after all, the Japanese had gone all the way across the Pacific, halfway across the Pacific, as far as Pearl Harbor to bomb.
And there was the case of a Japanese fighter pilot who went down on Niihau Island, as I recall, and he stirred up a rebellion among the Japanese who were there.
It's a little known fact.
He was finally overpowered and taken prisoner, but some of the Japanese on that island were supporting him.
So it was a very, very difficult decision to have to make, but it is portrayed in far blacker terms than it deserves.
Mr. Taylor, if I could ask real quick, weren't a sizable number of German and Italians also interned during World War II?
That's correct.
That's correct.
Very seldom talked about.
Very seldom talked about.
During the First World War as well, Germans were interned.
Nobody talks about that.
Nobody talks about compensation for them.
You're absolutely 100% correct.
Thanks for reminding us of that.
Now, again, Much as I dislike it, I do appreciate it when people tell me when I have jumped the tracks, which I so frequently seem to do.
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And we really do appreciate hearing from you.
The questions you ask, the points you bring up, really very enlightening.
Now, something that happened this week that I thought was of real significance, it won't It won't ultimately lead to any profound consequence, but I think it's significant nonetheless.
And that is the impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas.
The Republican-led Congress voted only 214 to 213 for the measure after an attempt failed last week.
But he is charged with not living up to his oath to well and faithfully discharge the duties of his office.
And I think that is an absolutely correct position to take.
Now, there were some Republicans who criticized this charge of dereliction of duty, including Senators James Lankford, Tommy Tuberville, and Mitt Romney.
Of course, you would Mitt Romney to object to that.
But Mayorkas is the first cabinet member to face impeachment in nearly 150 years.
And it is because he has let more than 6.3 million illegals into the country since Joe Biden took office.
6.3 million.
He is obviously not doing his job.
Mr. Taylor, Mr. Taylor, if I could, did you say that Alabama's fantastic senator, Tommy Toberville, objected to the impeachment of Mayorkas?
That's what I understand.
Now, there are some people, now Tom McClintock, He wrote a 10-page memo objecting to the impeachment on what I consider to be perhaps legitimate grounds.
He's a Republican.
He says the logic should be a cabinet secretary's job is to carry out the will of the president.
How can he be impeached for not doing his job when he is doing the job the president asks him to do, namely, let them all in?
And so McClintock's argument would be, if you're going to blame somebody for this, you blame the top guy.
You don't blame Alejandro Mayorkas.
So I don't know.
These are excellent questions.
I have almost, I've not found, and I haven't hunted really hard, I've not found any kind of step-by-step analysis of the legal reasons.
What are the laws that Mayorkas is not enforcing?
What are the lies he has allegedly told to Congress?
Fortunately, our star writer Gregory Hood is on the case, and he is reading this lengthy indictment to the lengthy bill of particulars about what Mayarkas did wrong, and we can look forward to the definitive article on this.
And of course, he will not, the impeachment will take place.
I think it's scheduled to begin later on this month.
The hearing is supposed to go on this month.
I'm sure that the Senate chamber will be practically empty.
All of these Democrats boycotting it in a huff.
I don't think they're under any obligation to be there.
And of course, it would be impossible to get two thirds of majority to vote to impeach, especially in a chamber that is controlled by the Democrats.
Now, on the other hand, I think it is highly significant.
This will stay in the news.
The arguments as to how he has been derelict, how he has been utterly incapable of fulfilling his legal and constitutional role, all those arguments will stay in the news, at least to some degree.
And so I applaud this undertaking.
Now, of course, ICE has been saying that—you'll recall, of course, Mr. Kersey, that there was a Senate bill worked out by a few Republicans.
The House refused to take it up.
Now, ICE has drafted plans to release yet more thousands of immigrants and to slash its capacity to hold illegals after the Senate border bill failed.
Because the bill would have erased a $700 million budget shortfall.
And they're saying, hey, we can't house these illegals because we don't have enough money.
The bill that had been worked out with a few Republicans and some Democrats would have given $6 billion in supplemental funding for ICE enforcement The trouble is, ICE has burned through its ordinary budget because of this huge number of illegals who are coming across.
This $700 million deficit the last fiscal year is the largest anybody can ever remember.
And so they're saying they're going to cut their detention level capacity from 38,000 beds to 22,000 beds.
Now, Mr. Kersey, did you know that the Department of Homeland Security can give three hots and a cots for 38,000 people at a time?
I had no idea.
No idea.
We are hotel for the world.
Hotel for the world.
And because we haven't voted this silly bill that was going to give them money to continue their silly do-nothing policies, they're going to cut our hotel to the world from 38,000 beds down to 22,000 beds, and they're going to just turn the rest of them loose in the United States.
Now, of course, they would have to be housing fewer people if they would just deport them.
But under Trump, At a time when far, far fewer illegals were coming in, we were deporting 80,000 a year under Biden.
With millions coming across the border, we're deporting only 35,000.
80,000 out of a tiny number of illegals That Trump was deporting and Biden can only manage to get rid of 35,000 out of these millions who are coming.
It's just, it's just catastrophic what's going on.
And as I say, I hope that this impeachment process will at least keep the spotlight of, keep the eyes of Americans on this total dereliction of duty, total, I think almost treasonous willingness to let our country submit to invasion of this country.
So we'll see.
We'll keep an eye on it.
But in the meantime, Mr. Kersey, you have some interesting statistics on black homicide.
Yeah, you know, this comes courtesy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
It just came out, and it's one of those stories that as the media breathlessly reported this, you had to ask yourself, did they actually realize what they were reporting?
Yes, the Brady Center is the last place I would have expected these numbers to come from.
Yeah, yeah, you know, I've actually not clicked to actually read the full study.
I look forward to doing that, but the headline that I got from the Griot, I believe that's a black website that MSNBC runs, Black Americans account for 60% of firearm homicides each year.
So, the opening line is straight out of amrin.com.
Black people continue to be disproportionately affected by gun violence, as they account for 60% of all firearm homicides, yet make up just 14% of the population.
As stated, this is from the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, analyzed firearm mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention between 2017 And 2021, excuse me one second, researchers found that the average firearm mortality homicide rate for black people of all ages was 21 per 100,000 people compared with 1.93 per 100,000 people for non-Hispanic white people.
Isn't that remarkable?
That is absolutely remarkable.
Yeah.
And I wish they'd included Hispanics too.
Yeah, yeah.
Hispanics have homicide rates three to four times of white rape.
I mean, that would that would look awful bad, except that they are so far behind blacks.
Yeah.
The largest disparity, Mr. Taylor, was in the 18 to 24 year old age group, where it turns out that black people had a firearm mortality rate of basically 58, 59, Per 100,000 people compared with 3.1 per 100,000 for for white people That's that's a pretty big disparity.
And that's of course that represents the Significant portion of the population that commits the gun violence that makes places like Chicago, Baltimore, Milwaukee St.
Louis and as we're going to talk about Kansas City suspect for people to live in Uh, and to try and raise their families or for businesses to try and stay open.
Quote, gun violence has been a top concern for law for a long time in the black community.
Kelly Sampson, senior counsel and director of racial justice at the Brady Center, told the Griot for people who care about the black community, you can't get away from these numbers.
People will look at these numbers and blame the victim.
But we know that black violence, but we know I'm sorry.
But we know that gun violence is preventable.
It's not inevitable.
Freudian slip there.
In 2020, gun violence became the leading cause of death for all children, but it's been the leading cause of death for black children, Mr. Taylor, since 2006, according to Brady analysis.
firearm suicide rates are also growing at a rapid pace among black people, increasing by 50 percent over the past five years.
Now, if you recall, there was 50 percent over the past five years.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
You know, deaths of despair are hitting all racial groups now.
And of course, white males were disproportionately impacted by that, as we know from You know, there's a remarkable symmetry there.
My recollection is that 85% of white male gun deaths are by suicide.
And so 15% are by homicide of gun deaths.
wants to talk about. But now, you know, there's a remarkable
symmetry there. My recollection is that 85% of white male gun
deaths are by suicide. And so 15% of by homicide of gun deaths. It's almost the perfect mirror image for blacks. 85%
of black men who die by gunfire are killed on only 15% kill
themselves. 15% 85% it's almost a perfect, perfect mirror image.
Yeah, I don't remember who put that one out.
It was it was a left-of-center organization And yeah, it was it was astonishing.
In fact, you know, I just found it actually right here it was by the It was published in the Annals of Internal Medicine back in 2018, and it just showed, like you said, the graph is quite shocking when it looks at the breakdown as we're talking about here.
But blacks, in the last five years, the black suicide rate, I mean, this is by all reasons and by all causes and for both sexes is up 50% in the last five years?
Mm-hmm.
That's correct.
Wow.
I mean, that's really remarkable.
Suicide rates sort of jog along.
Very rarely do you have big swings like that.
I wonder what's going on.
Anyway, sorry, I keep interrupting you.
It's a bad habit of mine.
No, it's okay.
It's a great habit, because we're trying to explore a very difficult conversation that most people don't want to have, because again, it's easy to just blame white people for all the violence that befalls BIPOCs, but I think we're increasingly reaching a point where that's no longer an acceptable supposition.
In addition, black people are killed 2.7 times more than white people by the police, and are 27% of people shot and killed by police since 2015, the report showed.
Quote, there's been a lot of research on the implicit bias works in terms of policing.
That has to do with the way black people are seen, Samson said.
Well, no, actually, the increased interaction, yeah, the increased interactions between Black males and police are because black males disproportionately commit most of the crime and thus have far more interactions that can be construed as ending with police shooting than white individuals collectively.
People who live in communities affected by gun violence tend to be the ones who step up and do the work to address it.
Quote, people care about all of it.
It doesn't matter where the bullet is coming from.
If it takes your child away, you're going to care about it, Samson said.
That's how Lachelle Rice looks at the problem.
In 2013, her oldest son, Jarrell Kaye, was shot and killed in Baltimore in an armed robbery.
Ten years later, her youngest son, Jerron Kaye, was also killed after getting caught in the crossfire of a shooting.
She does community—again, that's pretty gruesome.
That's terrible.
That's gruesome.
Two children killed like that?
Wow.
Yeah, and you have to wonder if those homicides were even cleared.
That's something this article doesn't even discuss.
Rice does community outreach work for Moms Demand Action in Baltimore, which is part of Everytown for Gun Safety.
It's a national gun violence prevention nonprofit, and she said this, quote, I think we're starting to really hear from communities where gun violence is happening.
We're tired of the violence.
It's reported from the impact that it's having on the individual person.
All of the attention is not on the perpetrator.
It's reported on how it has affected the community the home and the family and you know the article would go on to just talk about the tragedy that befell her family and Yeah, it's a sad situation.
But again, it's it's one of those moments where we have gang databases for most major cities.
We know who's committing the crime.
It's not it's not MAGA hat wearing white guys.
And which we're going to talk about here in a second, the situation in St.
Louis.
I'm sorry, in Kansas City that just happened for Super Bowl parade.
But I mean, again, nobody wants innocent people to be shot because they're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
But again, to have an honest conversation about gun violence in America
would require a healthy dose of racial reality that most of our elite are afraid to have.
You know, that article is correct.
It seems that the people who are really taking this seriously and trying to do something about it are the folks in the communities.
And sometimes they seem futile, putting up posters saying, don't shoot each other, and trying to hire these people who are ex-thugs themselves to Be in the business of de-escalating conflict.
You wonder how those things are going to work, but you understand their desperation.
These just gruesome, horrifying murder rates going on.
And I think part of the problem is the government, very few governments, are willing to talk in terms of why blacks have such a terrible homicide problem.
And we sort of leave it to them.
We arrest a few people, but then you accuse the police of racial profiling when they have to shoot people who are about to shoot them.
That, of course, is considered to be systemic racism.
All of this craziness.
There's no really honest attempt to grapple with this terrible problem that is overwhelmingly black.
And so these people who live in those neighborhoods are left with trying to solve the problem themselves.
It's just beyond their ability to do so.
It really is a tragic state of affairs.
And by the way, I just did a calculation while you were talking about this.
If 65% of the homicides are committed by 14% of the population, That means you can calculate the odds ratio, and what you get is that a black is 11.5 times more likely to commit a homicide, or in this case to be a victim of a homicide, than a non-black.
And the odds ratio would be even greater if you were comparing whites to blacks.
And even greater than that, it would probably be 40 times greater if you're comparing blacks to Asians, for example.
But this is the kind of realistic discussion, the problem of which our leaders and our editorial writers are utterly incapable.
But back to the whole business of immigration, and I think this is one that's going to dominate the campaign, or at least it's going to be an important part of the campaign.
I imagine, Mr. Kurzy, you were aware that Boston City Councilwoman Julia Mejia Recently urged the residents in Brooklyn and other Boston suburbs to welcome illegals into their own homes.
Believe it or not, Julian Mejia, who represents Boston, not the suburbs, is a Democrat.
And he says Dedham, Wellesley, Brooklyn, now those are wealthy, mostly white suburbs.
Cities and towns that have so much more resources than the city of Boston, says Julian Mejia, People who actually have more financial support.
He says, I think everybody should be opening their doors because this is a shared responsibility.
Hmm.
Now, I wonder if Julia is opening her doors.
Musk, Elon Musk, wrote in a post on X about the city of Boston.
They've run out of hotel rooms.
They're kicking kids out of school to house illegals.
And now they want your homes, too.
Good for Elon.
Well, we have a happy, happy good news story about people taking in immigrants.
Listen to this, Mr. Kersey.
Colin and Jessica Stokes, residents of the suburb of Brookline—again, white, wealthy—they shared last week their experience taking a migrant family into their home as state shelters handling the influx had reached capacity.
The family is lovely.
They're so appreciative.
It has been wonderful, says Ms.
Stokes.
When she called the state saying that she and her husband were willing to take in migrants, Stokes says it took less than an hour for migrants to be dropped off at their door.
Wow, how's that for government efficiency, Mr. Kersey?
Isn't that astonishing?
In less than an hour, call up and say, we've got room for them, and bam, they appear like magic.
Boy, magic carpet.
She and her husband are encouraging.
Others to take part in the pilot program.
The Stokes welcomed a family of four.
A family of four.
I mean, that's really opening up your house, all right.
Who had been sleeping on the floor at Logan Airport after making the journey from Chile.
Chile.
Now, the two migrant children are waiting to be enrolled in school.
No, you know, if they're from Chile, there's a good chance that they're white and well behaved.
But I want these libs to be taken in patients and Somalians and Salvadorans with tattoos on their faces.
And I feel sure that if anybody Has a very bad experience with taking in these illegals.
I suspect it will not get the kind of front page treatment that Colin and Jessica Stokes got.
And I'll be curious to know just how many people are going to say, yeah, yeah, I got a spare bedroom.
I got three spare bedrooms.
I think I'll take in three families.
And in the meantime, the Boston is looking at an office building at the Boston Seaport as a possible site to house migrants, an office building.
As you know, Mr. Kersey, a lot of offices are sort of standing empty after COVID and after we started working from home.
But as Boston City Councilor Ed Flynn worried that there is no running water and showers in the building.
So that's going to be a bit of a problem.
In the meantime, Europeans are very clearly on the warpath against immigration, as basically all white people everywhere in the world.
But this was a pretty impressive study.
It was a survey conducted in October of just last year.
It shows that for Europeans, Russia is no longer the primary security concern.
Migration and terrorism have now overtaken the threat of Russia.
And this concern could explain the surge in support for immigration control parties.
While Russia was ranked as the number one threat in Germany in last year's Munich Security Index, it's now slipped to seventh place.
In Germany, immigration scored 80 points out of 100, the highest score of any nation surveyed in the entire study.
Terrorism came in next at 74%.
Good for the Germans.
They've got their eye on the ball.
France was not far behind Germany in many areas with a risk for immigration of 71 out of 100.
That was the second highest in any country so far, with radical Islamic terrorism got 80 out of 100.
That's France's top concern.
And so the threat of radical Islamic terrorism is now second place among Europeans concerned, compared to 16th place last year.
Population migration, was ranked second last year and is now up to number one on what Europeans are concerned about.
And guess what's going to happen?
Every country, it seems, whenever you poll the citizens, they want less immigration.
What does the government do about it?
Almost nothing.
It's really, I think, one of the great failures of so-called democracy in the Western world.
But let's see.
Mr. Kersey, you have what's to me a rather disheartening story about ShotSpotter.
And could you tell us what's going on with ShotSpotter?
Now known as, what is it, sound decision?
What is it called now?
It's actually, I believe it's known as sound thinking.
Sound thinking.
I beg your pardon.
Because of all the negative press that our friends at ShotSpotter, which puts out a great
product.
Seems so to me.
Yeah.
I think I speak for myself and at the New Century Foundation when I thoroughly, thoroughly endorse all cities to implement ShotSpotter.
Because again, the whole goal is to make places, make cities safe for civilization and no one should be opposed to it.
Well, Mr. Kersey, perhaps for those who may not know what ShotSpotter is, Could you explain how it works?
Yeah, it's a surveillance technology that uses acoustic sensors to detect and locate gunshots.
Now it's going to alert law enforcement in real time when a gunshot happens.
It's of course been met with controversy for not only being very costly, but allegedly an accurate and effective And Mr. Taylor, it's even been accused of bias because ShotSpotter seems to detect guns only fired in neighborhoods filled with BIPOCs.
Somehow those guns that are, somehow those bullets that are fired by white hands, they go undetected.
It's as if ShotSpotter has some sort of ability to discern the racial group of who's pulling the trigger on these firearms.
That's systemic bias.
Systemic racism.
thinking that creates, yeah, exactly, all this insanity, white privilege, structural
inequalities, implicit bias, and what are they called?
Heat island?
Anyways.
So, on Tuesday, Chicago's black mayor, Brandon Johnson, who campaigned against shots, but
are announced the city won't be renewing its contract with the aforementioned sound thinking,
the company behind the service.
While the company says ShotSpotter is in operation in more than 150 U.S. states.
cities, some cities such as Seattle and Cleveland have debated its efficacy.
Chicago will stop using ShotSpotter in September.
The city has spent roughly $49 million on it since 2018.
And if you've looked at the crime stats, you can't say it's been effective, unfortunately, because, you know, gun violence has continued to go up.
And that's because, you know, people are with the cops.
Retreating to the donut shops, Mr. Taylor, after George Floyd, Chicago, saw record increases in homicide and non-fatal shootings.
The Chicago Police Department, unfortunately, no longer produces a comprehensive report breaking down the suspects, but we know from heyjackass.com, a fantastic website, that it is primarily black and brown people who are committing the gun violence, whether it's fatal or non-fatal in Chicago.
In addition, the Chicago PD said it will implement new training and further develop response models to gun violence, hopefully ultimately reducing shootings and increase accountability again.
We know where the accountability should lie, but they're protected by those elected to local office, like the mayor, Brandon Johnson.
He vowed to end the contract during his time as a candidate, saying Chicago spends $9 million a year on shots, but despite clear evidence, it's unreliable and overly susceptible to human error.
His campaign website said the expensive technology played a pivotal role in the 2021 killing of 13 year old Adam Toledo by police.
The boy was fatally shot during early hours, early morning hours in Chicago's Little Village neighborhood after police officers responded to a shot spotter notice of several shots fired.
The contract is going to be ended and invest in new resources that go after illegal guns without physically stopping and frisking Chicagoans on the street.
How are they going to do that?
How are they going to do that?
I don't know.
Go through with magnets through the neighborhoods?
I don't know.
Metal detectors on every sidewalk?
Hmm.
Yeah, great question.
Chris Telefero, an alderman who chairs the City Council's Committee on Police and Fire, pushed back on the decision.
He said that he's deeply disappointed we'll no longer use the technology
to help our officers respond to calls more rapidly, render aid to gunshot victims in a more timely manner,
and ultimately save lives, he said in an email to NPR.
He continued that the city has taken a step backwards by relying on the traditional 9-11 call
to respond to shots being fired in neighborhoods, which delays officers' response times.
And he then said this, "'This move will certainly prove to be detrimental
"'to the growth of black communities, "'and rob these communities of yet another resource
"'aimed at helping to build the communities.'"
Of course, why he says that is because, I mean, again, I've read the crime stats.
I've reported on this many times before Chicago decided to discontinue breaking down the gun crime, fatal and non-fatal by race.
There's, I don't want to say virtually none, but it's an anomaly when there's gun violence by white people in Chicago.
It's the same for New York and the same for DC.
Same for Baltimore.
Chicago, it's very striking, considering the fact that Chicago is about three-quarters white, three-quarters black, and three-quarters Hispanic.
No, one-third, one-third.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, one-third, I'm sorry.
One-third, one-third, one-third, yes.
Thank you for the correction.
Yeah, one-third white, one-third Hispanic, and one-third black.
And it's highly segregated, and that's why ShotSpotter was so important, because there's just It's almost unnecessary, it's superfluous to be introduced to the white communities because there's no white people shooting off guns.
Sorry to all the conspiracy theorists out there who think that somehow ShotSpotter is covering that up.
Turns out, according to research conducted by the MacArthur Justice Center at the Northwestern School of Law in 2021, 89% of Chicago police deployments prompted by ShotSpotter turned up a no-gun-related crime and 86% led to no report of any crime at all.
Which of course means that 14% did lead to a report of crime.
Well, and my guess is unless ShotSpotter is so poorly tuned that it gets the trucks backfiring, what that simply means is they didn't find the guy who fired the weapon.
Yeah.
That's what that means, it seems to me.
It doesn't mean that no weapon was fired.
You know, I've become increasingly curious about these complaints about ShotSpotter.
And I think, maybe I'll look into this and maybe even do a video about it because it's something that just baffles me.
I don't understand why it costs so much to run either.
Millions of dollars a year?
I mean, gee, once you've got these acoustic devices around town, why does it cost so much?
That seems very surprising to me.
I think I may just look into this and try to find out what's going on, whether any of these objections are legitimate to what the company says about it, because it's all intriguing to me and to you, Mr. Kersey, and probably to all of our listeners.
It seems obvious.
If you can send the police right away when you figure out when a shot's been fired in an urban area, why wouldn't you?
Get them there quick.
Don't wait for a 911 call.
Most people don't call 911 anyway.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
No, I mean, again, I need to look into this.
I'll tell you what, I'll even go one step further.
If there are any of our, any of our listeners who have a connection to ShotSpotter or SoundThinking, a great company.
Again, we'd love to, we'd love to know some analysis.
I'm sure there's some great white papers out there.
Of course, they're attacked again by Jonathan Mains, who's an attorney with the MacArthur Justice Center, who spearheaded that aforementioned study.
He said in a 2021 statement that high-tech tools can create a false justification for the broken status quo of policing and end up exacerbating existing racial disparities.
I mean, again, well, There you go.
Remember, I think we talked about this on one of our podcasts, but astonishingly, the FBI now has an official order to its agents when they go out into the field, that they are to ignore any kind of local reports on crime rates by neighborhood, because those crime rates reported by neighborhood reflect police bias in collecting the statistics.
So the FBI is supposed to absolutely ignore anything that would suggest that one neighborhood is likely to be more crime-ridden than another.
This is just deliberate blindness.
And my guess is that all the objections against ShotSpotter are Equivalent to that, just deliberately refusing to accept the obvious.
But it's worth looking into, and I think I will.
And I agree.
Anybody, any of our listeners out there, if you have any specialized knowledge about how ShotSpot works, what the objections to it are, this is a somewhat obscure area, but we would absolutely love to hear about it.
And if you have some connection to the company or with the police department, your confidentiality is absolutely 100% assured.
Yeah.
American Renaissance, U Century Foundation has never, knock on wood, had a security leak.
And we hope never to have one.
If I could end with this, the CEO of ShotSpotter put out this statement, sound thinking CEO Ralph Clark, he defended the technology saying, if 80 to 90% of gunfire goes unreported, why wouldn't you want to close that gap?
Especially if it had the potential to save 100 plus lives in addition to other ancillary benefits.
Uh, still have not heard any reasonable argument against that proposition.
And then he said this, the most important measure of ShotSpotter's value is in life saves.
In the time that it has been deployed in Chicago, ShotSpotter has led police to locate hundreds of gunshot wound victims where there was no corresponding call to 911.
Those are victims who most likely would not have received aid if not for ShotSpotter.
I mean, again, you look at the just extraordinary amount, Mr. Taylor, of non-fatal gunshot victims.
And a lot of it is due to the advances in trauma center technology and doctors who have gotten a lot better at providing immediate care for those individuals who are gunshot victims.
I think in some of these cities, the homicide rate would probably be 30 to 40 percent higher.
If not for these advances in trauma center technology, I know no question about but the point is he's right I mean, this is this is disproportionately saving black and brown lives and at the same time These are still people who are gonna we've all read the studies about how much the lifetime cost of a gun of trying you know of Taking care of somebody and patching someone up who's had been a victim of gun violence.
A lot of them have to wear, if they've been shot in the stomach, colonoscopy bags for the rest of their life.
It's just, it's a life-altering experience.
And again... Colostomy.
Colostomy bags.
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
I'm going fast and I know some of our listeners will laugh at that.
Thank you for correcting me, Mr. Taylor.
Hopefully, you know, knock on wood, that's something that, you know, diverticulitis will never be something I have to encounter for that to be something that might be in the future.
But the point is this.
The point is this.
Everything that should be done to make life safer for all people Regardless of race should be done and I think that the story we're about to talk about I think in a few minutes the Kansas City shooting That's one.
I mean again It's we don't have to live like this and black and brown people don't have to live like this and unfortunately and most of these Urban cities and that are heavily non-white There's a culture of you know, no snitch and they don't care.
Oh the only thing I That the great and the good tell us is guns are the problem.
That's the only thing.
That's the only thing you can ever think of.
But in the meantime, let's see.
Back to the whole immigration thing, which I was sort of ping-ponging back and forth here, but you had so many interesting stories to tell us about crime, but National Public Radio is very worried.
They're very worried, because as it says, the election year gets underway, a conspiratorial narrative, typically circulated by fringe movements, has come to dominate mainstream Republican discourse on immigration.
And Mr. Kersey, I'm sure you can guess what that conspiratorial fringe narrative is.
I've got a theory or two.
Experts on extremism say that rhetoric used by Republican officeholders about the surge of immigrants at the border with Mexico increasingly echoes the Great Replacement conspiracy theory that has inspired violence in the past and could do so again in the future.
Voiced by some high-ranking GOP officials, the theory asserts that Democrats are intentionally bringing in immigrants to dilute the strength of Republican voters.
Now, why would Democrats do that, I wonder?
Extremism experts say that the potency of the border issue as a rallying cry to a broad spectrum of the right is evidenced by who attended the recent truck convoys in Texas, California, and Arizona.
Now, Mr. Kersey, I recall hearing about these.
These were invitations to people to do convoys down to the border to protest the millions who were crossing over.
But I recall hearing that there was a very small turnout amidst suggestions that this was some kind of baiting tactic that would get them all arrested.
Did you follow those convoys at all?
As I recall, there wasn't really much to report.
No, I didn't follow it at all, because again, it just, I don't want to use a word that's so overused on social media, PSYOP or something, or, you know, Honey, you know, trying to create a situation that would be great for those who glow, the federal agents.
You have to be very careful out there, ladies and gentlemen.
We've always stressed the importance of being judicious in real life activism, unfortunately, because Our ideas are the only ideas that threaten the status quo.
Anyways... I wasn't too worried about that myself.
I mean, not that I was going to get in my 18-wheeler and drive down to the Texas border, but be that as it may... When did you get an 18-wheeler?
No, sorry, it's a four-wheeler.
But one, they quote this guy, Freddy Cruz, program manager for the Western States Center, which monitors anti-democratic movements, anti-democratic movements.
This always just kills me.
When you want to control the border, you're part of an anti-democratic movement.
But he's talking about these convoys down the border.
He says, it's essentially serving as a lightning rod to gather all these extreme fringe elements down at the border, says Freddie Cruz, who monitors anti-democratic movements.
It's having an impact.
We're seeing with neo-Nazi groups, malicious conspiracy theorists all joining together to rally behind the issue of immigration.
Well, this is all part of this NPR article that worries about the GOP, but I thought they were worried that the GOP itself was talking about the Great Replacement.
But when they've got this Freddy Cruz guy mentioning neo-Nazis, militias, conspiracy theorists, I guess they're basically all the same as Republicans, right?
Yeah, they're all the same.
So they're worried about this.
And on the subject of the Great Replacement, I thought there's another interesting story.
A Republican state lawmaker in Michigan lost his committee assignment staff just Monday this week, days after posting an image of a racist ideology on social media.
So the Michigan Speaker of the House, Joe Tate, a black Democrat, said he would not allow the House to be a forum for racist, hateful, and bigoted speech.
And he stripped this guy of his staff and committee assignment.
This is astonishing to me.
The Speaker of the House can strip a member of the opposing party of his staff and his committee assignments?
And why in Michigan, for heaven's sake, is the Speaker of the House a black guy?
In any case, what was this guy, what was this white guy's crime?
State Rep.
Josh Shriver.
He shared a post on X that showed a map of the world with black figures greatly outnumbering white figures, along with the phrase, The Great Replacement.
Well, The Great Replacement had an exclamation mark after it, and I suspect it was probably the exclamation mark that pushed it over the top and made it unacceptable and made it hate speech.
Well, that's apparently all he did.
He posted this cartoon and called it The Great Replacement.
And so, what says this black Speaker of the House, Mr. Tate?
He says, Representative Shriver has a history of promoting debunked theories and dangerous rhetoric that jeopardizes the safety of Michigan residents.
Wow!
A cartoon jeopardizes the safety of Michigan residents.
And this guy has got the power to strip you of committee assignments and your staff.
Good grief.
That's pretty crazy.
You know, Mr. Taylor, I'm not sure if you know this, but Joshua Shriver tweeted on February 14th, white erasure is wrong.
This isn't controversial.
I didn't know that.
So you've been following this guy?
Uh, I have been following him, and I just happened to see this tweet, and it's one of those moments where you've been removed from your committee assignment, and then you tweet that in response, and I think, I think we're reaching a point where, again, and it's important to note he's a younger guy.
Yes, yes, I saw a photograph of him, quite a young, he looks like he's not even 30 years old.
Yeah, so the point is, there is increasingly a number of individuals who are speaking out, and it is something that As you stated about NPR, it terrifies the system.
It terrifies the media-run state that Mr. Hood so correctly identified as the problem.
If you had a media that constantly talked about the consequences of the Great Replacement, I think you could change things pretty quickly in this country.
I think you could, too.
I think you could, too.
My favorite white man in the Trump White House, Stephen Miller, is at it again.
He is behind the action taken by America Legal First that has brought a civil rights complaint with the EEOC against the Disney company.
Apparently, they have submitted a 15-page document that uses what appears to be internal Disney DEI targets that were shared earlier this month by none other than Elon Musk.
The only thing that boy does wrong is not let me back on Twitter, or X it's now called.
And let's see, the America First Legal Foundation Stephen Miller president says, Disney appears to be engaged in pervasive, far-reaching, illegal race and sex discrimination.
Now, the trouble is the EOC, which enforces laws banning workplace discrimination, doesn't have to act on the complaint.
That's the trouble with these filings.
Anyone can make a file.
You could, Mr. Kersey.
You could file a complaint against some discriminator, and the EEOC, if it likes, can just pitch it.
But the AFL's complaint refers to leaked Disney files that lay out targets for half of the characters—that means the cast characters, producers, writers, directors, and technical crews for its movies and shows—must come from underrepresented groups.
Half.
Half.
And Musk earlier this month said he got the documents that describe this mandatory over-representation of these minorities as institutionalized racism and sexism.
AFL says it amounts to intentionally discriminating against white American men.
Christians and Jews.
Well, that's interesting.
I'm sure Jews probably are overrepresented in those roles, and I guess—I don't know whether Muslims are considered underrepresented, just what the religious targets are for Disney.
But AFL has also gone after American Airlines, Macy's, McDonald's, and Salesforce.
Now, this is the trouble again with these EEOC things.
You can get headlines and you can get people interested.
And if you have documents like this to display showing just how blatant and systematic discrimination against whites is, that's a good thing.
But I have yet to see any of these EEOC filings by America First Legal actually result in some kind of punishment.
Anyway, now you said we were talking about Kansas City.
I don't have much to say about it.
So you better take over that little question.
Oh, the shooting in Kansas City?
At the Super Bowl?
Yeah, I'll just be brief.
You know, this past week I was traveling and I happened to be in the lobby of a hotel when this broke and it was shocking to watch CNN breathlessly talk about, uh, was this a terror attack by, you know, Disgruntled people in Kansas City.
For our listeners who don't know, the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl, so they had an event in downtown Kansas City to celebrate that with the players.
There were about 800,000 people there.
It turns out that the police dedicated about 800 police to this event to maintain the safety.
Kansas City Mr. Taylor in 2023 posted its most violent year ever in terms of number of homicides and non-fatal shootings.
It's about a 55% white city.
And so you had a overwhelmingly white crowd there to celebrate the National Football League Super Bowl champions.
Hoist that Lombardi trophy in a parade and then all of a sudden some gunfire erupted.
What about the 20 people wounded?
The one woman killed?
22 people were shot and one person was killed.
CNN, as I'm watching this unfold live, they kept saying, well, you know, Missouri has some of the laxest gun laws in the country.
You know, is this, is this the reason?
And it turns out that immediately there was footage and there were photographs of the suspects
and they were black, they were young black males as we just talked about earlier, 18 to 24
or is that age that is responsible for most of the homicides in the black community according to that study.
Do we know anything about their motives?
They weren't just shooting white people, I suppose.
They were trying to shoot each other?
What happened here?
It was one of those, it was one of those, uh, there was some beef between, uh, between some rival, uh, some rival brothers.
Yeah.
And so they indiscriminately started shooting each other and some bystanders tackled them
and probably saved a couple more magazines from being unloaded or into the crowd.
But what- Beef, it's a real problem in the black community.
They need to go vegetarian.
That'll solve the problem.
What shocked me though was just how breath, because I don't watch, I've cut the cord.
I don't consume any news outside of a couple of websites And it was, it was really shocking to watch CNN and just see over and over again, the talking heads.
Oh, this is the all too familiar theme in America, mass shooting, gun violence.
And it's like, no, it's not.
It's again, it's a couple of, you know, you have 800 police dedicated to try and keep the peace at an event that was almost all peaceful.
You know, again, it was overwhelmingly white until black people started shooting each other.
Exactly.
And that's the takeaway from this.
Not that, hey, you know, Missouri's got these lax gun laws.
I mean, if these kids were under 21, they had no right to carry a handgun.
They can't legally buy a handgun.
So what are you supposed to do?
It's again, and that's going to be lost.
And all this is the fact that once again, a couple of black people made a lovely event.
Unlovable.
Speaking of the Super Bowl, For the fourth straight year, Lift Every Voice and Sing, which is the Negro National Anthem, was performed along with the Star-Spangled Banner.
Now, Representative Steve Cohen, Democrat of Texas, who represents a black district, he complained on exit, very, very few stood for Lift Every Voice and Sing.
This is the Negro National Anthem, not a pretty picture.
So he was all upset that the crowd wasn't all standing for the Black National Anthem, just like they do for the regular National Anthem.
Now, there are circumstances under which I would stand for the Black National Anthem, and I'm sure you can guess what they would be.
If they had their own country with their own National Anthem and I were visiting, I would stand proudly.
Yes, I would.
Now, are you familiar with the words of Lift Every Voice and Sing?
One correction.
Yes?
One correction.
He's actually a rep from Tennessee.
He's from the Memphis area.
Oh, what did I say?
Yes, Tennessee.
Not Texas.
Oh, heavens.
No, not Texas at all.
No, I beg your pardon.
I'm glad you caught that.
I would have gotten a torrent of corrections from our sharp-eared listeners.
But, you know, the words of Lift Every Voice and Sing are really rather inspiring in a way.
Especially when you take into consideration the fact they were written in 1900—1900, a time when there was legalized discrimination, legalized segregation.
They were written by James Weldon Johnson.
And I'll just read the last few sentences of this song.
It goes, God of our weary years, God of our silent tears, Thou who hast brought us thus far on the way, thou who hast by thy might led us into the light, keep us forever in the path, we pray.
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met thee.
Our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget thee.
Shadowed beneath thy hand, may we forever stand true to our God, true to our native land.
It's really quite inspiring, as I say.
In 1900, for blacks to think in terms of true to our native land, trusting in God, moving forward, that's really not at all a bad song.
If Wakanda were to appear tomorrow, and the Wakanda Knights were to come up with their own national anthem, I'm sure it would be much bitterer, much more anti-white.
This is not even very anti-white.
You know, I'm sure some of our listeners are going to tell me, oh, Taylor, you're such a softie.
But this is really, in its own way, an inspiring song.
But I won't stand for it.
Not until they have their own country.
In any case, Mr. Kersey, our time is run out.
Oh, my gosh.
So, ladies and gentlemen, we are honored and it's a great place to spend this time with you.
And we look forward to doing the same thing next week.
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