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What's going on, guys?
Gregory Hood here.
I'm here with Paul Kersey, and this is the first episode of our new podcast, View from the Right.
For those of you who have been in the movement for a while, you may remember View from the Right, Lawrence Oster's great site, which was one of the really intellectual powerhouses of the proto-alt-right before the rise of Trump, and certainly somebody who had a big influence on us.
One of the things that we're going to be doing with this is talking about pop culture.
We'll be talking about power.
We'll be talking about the way that This is not really a marketplace of ideas that we live in.
We are essentially living in what's, I mean, I hate to use kind of an extreme phrasing, but essentially a hostile occupation regime against white guys.
And we'll be talking about how to survive and thrive from underneath it.
Yeah, I'm excited to join you, Mr. Hood.
I've, you know, I know that this podcast is taking place of one that unfortunately came to an end last year with Oh, with Martin, yeah.
with Mark Ross.
Yeah, and you know, we'll be, hopefully we'll be able to bring that back to soon as well.
But I think there's definitely, we need this, the focus of this is going to be a little
bit different.
We're not going to be talking about books so much, but we're going to be talking about
the kinds of things that I think really affect normal people, frankly, more, and especially
in terms of pop culture, because one of the big takeaways I want people to understand
is that everything you see on TV, everything you see with movies, everything you see with
television, everything you see with sports, all of this kind of stuff, all of this reflects
power.
It's not just a marketplace of ideas.
You're dealing with power, you're dealing with hierarchy, you're dealing with elites all the time.
To kind of bring this in as the debut, I think we got to talk about somebody, an elite that is really shifting the debate in our direction, even though by no means is he a white identitarian, but somebody who's already had a huge impact on everything.
And that, of course, is Elon Musk.
Yeah.
You know, he's an African-American.
That's right.
America's most successful African-American.
Yeah.
He's done so much to inspire a lot of people with his purchase of Twitter, rebranded it as X, and He's shown something that you've made quite clear on Twitter as you voice the importance of free speech and the access to these so important
Did the digital community and I think going back to what we talked about Lawrence Oster calling this view from a right.
That's a great homage to to a man who had a major impact on me.
For those of you don't know he wrote an amazing blog called view from the right.
He wrote a number of books.
I think his most important one.
You probably agree path to national suicide.
Yeah, that that had the biggest impact on me to understand coming from an area that was at that time that I grew up.
All-white-topia, an all-white enclave, and to think that this was happening, it was like, wait a second, this is happening to my America?
Because, you know, you and I are the same age.
We grew up at a time where you still had somewhat of a monoculture, Mr. Hood.
We all watched TGIF, you know, on ABC.
We grew up watching kind of the last era of fun.
Good sitcoms, you know, Your Home Improvement, Your Full House, shows that were, speaking of values, that, gosh, you watch them now and it looks like a different country.
Oh, it is a different country.
I mean, I do think that we sort of got the last gasp of the real America.
I mean, looking at some of the debate on X, every few months somebody posts the, and this is maybe even a bit after our time, but the smooth criminal cover of Alien Ant Farm where everybody's dancing around and you got, like, the backyard wrestling and Whites and blacks rocking out to kind of goofy guys playing guitar.
Even that alone seems so foreign.
But what's interesting about this is that this, it's not just nostalgia.
I mean, there is this, Carl Benjamin, you know, Sargon of Akkad, had a post about this where he said it, it's a question of innocence that's been lost, but also just the feeling of authenticity, because right now everybody It's not just that everybody's afraid of being politically correct, and that's just such a cliched term.
It's not just that everybody's afraid and everybody's kind of playing off the script.
It's that there's a cynicism behind all of it.
You hear people saying these things about race and gender and everything else, and it's so obvious that it's about power.
It's so obvious that it's about getting resources away from you.
One of the reasons why I thought of Auster with this is that This is a guy who, I mean, let's face it.
I mean, he was basically marginal.
It was kind of this random blog, but it had a big impact on a lot of people.
And the reason is because it wasn't that long ago when you could have a website with a fairly small readership, but it would circulate pretty much everywhere.
And people were not afraid of saying like, yes, I've read this discussing ideas.
I don't agree with this, but I'm going to engage with this stuff.
The biggest cultural change in my lifetime, our lifetime, is essentially the complete loss of freedom of speech as an American norm.
In 2015, it was taken absolutely for granted that every single company would defend your right to free speech.
The idea of platform access even being a thing was not even up for discussion.
Amazon, for example, famously, I mean, went to the mat to defend their right to sell a book that Basically told you how to get away with some pretty disgusting sexual crimes against kids and they basically were saying well We're gonna go to the mat on this because if you compromise on this
You're going to have to compromise on everything else.
Now we're at the point where you can't even get white identity by Jared Taylor.
Now, the only thing that has really reversed this is Musk's purchase of X. And obviously, Musk has not done a lot of the things that he said he would do.
I mean, originally it was any kind of legal speech you're going to have.
We don't have that.
That there's going to be an amnesty for banned accounts.
We don't have that.
There have been a number of people who have been banned since he took over, so it's actually gotten worse for some people.
On the flip side, it has definitely opened up the debate on a lot of other things, certainly for something like, say, transgenderism.
You couldn't even critique that a couple years ago without risking your account.
Now, you can pretty much say whatever you want on that issue.
I mean, the real lesson of all of this, of course, is how dependent we are on elites.
And you're not going to get anywhere without at least some elites taking your side.
That's something that I think in the new populist right, we don't really want to grapple with, but it's the truth.
Yeah.
And that's something that going back to why I love the fact that we're hopefully going to call this view from the right as an homage to Larry, because he did talk about that.
You know, you don't have You don't have a revolution against the managerial state, the managerial elite without replacing them.
Because that's, that's why these individuals are promoted to protect the power that has been usurped.
Uh, and we're watching that.
I mean, you go back and you think, I think it was December, 2021, when Musk appeared on the Babylon Bee podcast.
And that's where he started talking about wokeism.
And, you know, I've paid attention to Elon Musk for a long time.
There was a great biography written about him that he participated in that talked about the rise of SpaceX and what he was trying to do with Tesla.
I think it came out back in 2012.
And all of his goals and his hopes for humanity.
And he talked about, famously, in one of the last pages of the book, how Mike Judge's movie, Idiocracy, scared him.
Because he talked about how he talked about how, you know, this movie, the first 10 minutes, the most important, because those who need to be producing high IQ, intelligent individuals are not.
And the other people, those of lesser intelligence, cognitive ability are producing at rates far beyond.
The aforementioned high IQ individuals or just people who are going to be able to maintain what they inherit from from their from their parents and grandparents.
And that struck me.
I remember reading that thinking, wow, that's I can't believe this guy is going to survive being canceled.
And Mr. Hood, you go back and you think, all right, so Babylon Bee gets kicked off Twitter.
And I can't remember which individual within that company suggested, why don't you buy Twitter?
But then, of course, you know, he then floated the idea in early 2022.
And then he did, I believe he acquired it at the end of 2022, early 2023.
It's been a little while at this point.
It's been a little while at this point.
I just saw a list of the top 20 accounts.
Yeah, Keith Woods was at the last American Renaissance Conference, his number is 7,000.
Congratulations.
Exactly.
That's what I was going to bring up.
Keith Woods from Ireland.
He has a huge audience.
Yeah, one of the best content creators out there.
I mean, one of the things he gets a lot of attention for what he's doing on X, but I mean, he's also been doing some pretty high brass stuff on YouTube and a lot of other platforms as well.
I think he's one of the hardest working people on the right today.
I would agree with that and his I mean, he's the individual who started the band the 80 Hashtag ban ADL and that of course took off he's been bringing attention to a lot of the stuff that's happened in Ireland and communicating with Conor McGregor and One of the more famous athletes on the planet for those who don't know listen to this and Conor McGregor is a UFC fighter, lightweight Irish guy who has a number of children and who took to heart the riots that happened in Ireland.
You can probably speak more to that here in a second.
But, you know, also in that top 20 was Matt Walsh, who I think demonstrates where conservatism, where Conservatism Inc.
As James Kirkpatrick, Mr. Hood, wrote about a different version of this character.
Just to get one thing out of the way real quick, just because I'm really getting sick of the stupid pen names and everything else, especially being that I've docked for years.
Gregory Hood is James Kirkpatrick, is Ken Indiana, I think we all know that.
And if I could get rid of everything at this point, I will, just to go by my real name and have this all settled.
But at the same time, I'm certainly going to defend pretty ferociously and uncompromisingly, not just free speech for everybody, but, and I'd be remiss in not mentioning Nick Fuentes getting banned, because Keith stood up very aggressively for Nick Fuentes, and I think he deserves some credit for that, because we need to be uncompromising free speech and platform access for everybody, regardless of what people think about this person or that person.
But the other thing is that it's important to be People need to have the right to speak anonymously on X. And this is important because, of course, Nikki Haley, who's the only challenger to Donald Trump, was saying that we need to unmask everybody, which would be such a crushing defeat for the American right, given that all the institutional power is on the other side.
The fact that she would say something like that just shows how disconnected I think a lot of Republicans are from what's happening on the ground.
Yeah, those who those who thrive on their anonymity are able to bring about ideas that a lot of people are sympathetic with but they are afraid of voicing until they reach a critical mass where that's why I'm pointing out someone like Matt Walsh who went to war with Transgenderism and now he's almost indistinguishable from someone who would attend an AR conference I think you agree out where he's talking about what's happening with the just Well, think about the Groper wars from a few years ago.
I mean, you had a lot of young conservatives, or even identitarians, whatever you want to call them, going up, asking hostile questions to people like him, Charlie Kirk, pressing them on issues of race.
And they were getting very defensive and very nasty.
And at American Renaissance, I think I even said Charlie Kirk was like white renegade of the year, basically white traitor of the year in like 2019.
They've completely reversed.
I mean, Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh have been saying some pretty staunch things on Twitter, on X. And it shows that pressure works, but it also shows that Musk has changed things because they wouldn't say these things if they were risking their account.
I mean, something that I don't want to admit, because I don't like giving them any credit, but at least in the short term, Censorship and denying people platforms is an effective tactic because people who make their living off this or people who think that they're making a difference by being on these platforms are going to change what they say based on what they can get away with.
If you look at Facebook, for example, sometimes you'll get these left-wing articles and they'll say something like, well, Facebook is actually biased toward conservatives.
And that's because the only conservative, the people that you'll see as like the top engagement, it's like Franklin Graham and Ben Shapiro and all these kind of like boomer conservative, you know, types who are just saying the same sort of thing you would see on Fox News.
And it's like, yeah, it's because that's the only thing you can say and get away with.
Now on X, you can say some edgier stuff and you can say some more truthful stuff.
It's not perfect.
I mean, if you look at like Alex Jones or something, he got brought back and a lot of people would say, well, yeah, because he's saying things that kind of distracts from the core problem.
You know, it's not the communist Chinese who are responsible for the immigration problem, right?
But it is good that he's back on.
It is good that you have people who are at least moving the conversation closer
to where it needs to be.
And most importantly, it means that guys like Matt Walsh and Charlie Kirk and other people like that,
movement conservatives who are never gonna call themselves white identitarians and who are never gonna consider
themselves part of our movement, nonetheless, they're talking about our issues.
I mean, one of the things we have to just kinda take, this is just part of the business that we have chosen,
is when other people co-opt our stuff, that's not something to get mad about, that's a victory.
It's, no, it's a huge victory because their audiences.
Have not been hampered by censorship.
I go back to 2016, I believe, was when Jared Taylor's Twitter account was nuked.
Yeah.
And the American Renaissance account was nuked before then on both Twitter.
When Jack, I'm sorry, why am I blanking on the founder of Twitter?
I've already forgotten his name.
Oh, Jack Dorsey.
Jack Dorsey.
Yep.
Jack Dorsey.
The CEO of Twitter and then of course Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook had disabled the ability to share stories from AR or videos.
I can tell you that you know, Jared had an account on YouTube that had over a hundred.
I think a hundred twenty thousand subscribers on YouTube with his videos and the the algorithm worked in his favor because it would it would It would recommend his videos to people who watch certain other videos.
So that was nuked in Gosh, April 2020 when you think about what happened Once the George Floyd stuff started, his account was really big.
I believe the New York Times had done an article or maybe the ADL had put out a list of the of the YouTube YouTubers that needed to be taken down.
Famously, that was Paul Joseph Watson was on there.
Laura Southern.
Oh gosh, who was the Canadian actor turned Videologist, uh, who would, well, not videologist, but he would do all those great videos and on Twitter, he would have eggs.
He can make fun of, you know, women, uh, who were not having children.
And then, oh, Stephen Molyneux, Stefan Molyneux.
There's a guy, there's a name, there's a name you haven't heard for a long time.
I mean, one of the things that we have to think about, and I can give you plenty of personal examples.
I mean, you had people who weren't even necessarily very political, who really had something going
and who were extremely influential in what history will call the first great meme war of 2016.
And they were essentially just wiped out and they just didn't come back.
I mean, one of the reasons that some of the people who are kicking around on X now are so significant
and I think deserve a lot of respect that they've been able to overcome this deplatforming,
but a lot of other people have not.
And it's not their fault.
I mean, they put all their energy and effort into something that at a time when it was taken for granted that you would always have these things.
I mean, you never saw liberals arguing against free speech, not mainstream liberals, in like 2014.
It was really interesting how after the election, particularly that notorious meeting they had at Google, Where basically the whole company got together after Trump was elected and said, we can never let this happen again, that all of our assumptions about free speech are wrong.
Because up until that point, up until the election of Donald Trump, the assumption was if you have the free flow of information, because we believe in democracy, people are going to look at it and they're going to make the right decision.
And after the election Of Trump, the assumption moving forward now, and I would say this is the defining characteristic of the mainstream left in every single Western country, and certainly the most important concern of most Western governments, is we cannot let the wrong people talk.
Because if the wrong people talk, somehow, someway, through some weird esoteric magic, they're going to infect the minds of all these people who can't help but become fascists overnight.
Consider what's going on in Germany with them discussing the banning of the AfD.
The left-wing government that just took over Poland, the first thing they're doing is trying
to put through hate speech laws.
The idea of open discussion being a positive good is just something that is no longer even
negotiable within much of the Western world.
And we have the First Amendment in this country, but even that has not proven all that effective.
One thing I just want to bring up real quick is, it was Lauren Southern, again, another person who I'm not saying like, oh, she's secretly a white identitarian.
No, she's not.
But she obviously has put out some good content over the years, and especially the movie Farmlands, which I reviewed for American Renaissance.
And Lauren Southern has just gotten absolutely hammered by a lot of these governments.
She's not extreme at all.
I mean, she's a leftist compared to us, right?
She can't travel to certain countries.
She had all sorts of restrictions put on her.
She was making all this money from all these different sites.
They immediately kicked her off.
She went to arbitration for one of these things.
Of course she lost.
You know, nobody's ever going to side with her.
And one of the things that she said when this was really hitting for the first time is, you just don't understand how bad the system is until you confront it.
And somebody like Nikki Haley and the type of people who would vote for Nikki Haley, it just, It's not that it wouldn't occur to them that this happens, not just in America, but throughout the Western world.
But if you showed them, hey, this is happening, and you gave them the evidence and you gave them examples, they just won't believe you.
They'll just say, well, I've been told this doesn't happen.
Therefore, this doesn't happen.
Yeah, you know, she's done a lot of amazing things.
Didn't she also do a documentary about trying to stop the NGOs with the boats crossing into Europe?
She did.
And she got accused of, like, attacking the boats and, like, launching rockets at them or something because, you know, they used flares or something like that.
I mean, just the most ridiculous charges.
But, I mean, this is how these things go.
I mean, a newspaper will just kind of take the headline and run with it.
I mean, this is why, to keep kind of bringing it back, you're talking about people's livelihoods
and careers, and we're not just talking about, you know, political actors.
We're talking about people who, I don't know, do stuff about fitness, who do stuff about fashion,
who do stuff about diet and nutrition, people who took seriously the idea that when the internet
was really taking off and you had social media for the first time, that anybody could be a commentator.
I mean, even if you think of the people who have just been absolute titans on YouTube, somebody like PewDiePie, for example, if you had the current environment now, the current way it's set up, the top-down control, if that had existed when it all got started, there's no way his account would have gotten anywhere.
Nobody would ever hear of him.
His whole life would be different.
It just never would have gotten off the ground, and that's the way it is now.
One of the things you have to understand when you look at YouTube and you see somebody like, oh, let's say Hasan Piker or somebody like that, I mean, these guys essentially just have, they can call themselves socialists, they can call themselves communists, they can call themselves whatever they want, but at the end of the day, they're a corporate product endorsed and sponsored from the top down.
That is the reality of anybody who is getting any kind of prominence on any of these mainstream social media platforms.
Now, you could argue that that's also true of X to some extent.
The way that X is going to make money going forward is by getting guys like, you know, Mr. Beast, for example, just put out his first video on there and made some outrageous amount of money.
Yeah, $200,000 plus.
Yeah, which he then gave away because that's kind of his shtick and stuff.
And it's a smart move by Musk because those are the types of guys who need to be moving stuff to that platform.
But that said, it has also opened up some space for Other people.
And will you ever get the kind of push from the top down that you get with the algorithm that maybe some of these other guys get?
No, you won't.
And there's always accusations of shadow banning and stuff like that.
But given the reality of where we are, we have to kind of take what we can get.
Now, is there going to be any progress from there?
I don't know.
I mean, every once in a while you'll have these other names kind of dropped as somebody who might push things forward on Free speech grounds or in Silicon Valley or something.
Peter Thiel is always, oh, he's supposedly funding this, that and the other thing.
I've never seen a dime from him, certainly.
But I mean, the big thing for me with that is I don't think people need these elites sponsoring stuff.
They just kind of need to return us to what we had in 2015, where the idea that, you know, PayPal would steal your money or just kick you off was unthinkable.
Now we all just kind of expect it.
Yeah, and that's why hopefully Musk will be able to come out with some sort of payment processor.
Hopefully.
The uncertainty is a big problem because, I mean, again, if Jared Taylor can't get on there, who's to say that tomorrow you can invest whatever you want with this platform and roll out all sorts of content?
Have that be the Everything app, which is clearly his intention, basically the way that certain apps do that kind of thing in China, where your banking and everything else is going to be done through that.
But what's the incentive to do that where At any given moment, it could all just be taken away from you if the ADL just says, like, yeah, we don't like this person.
Correct.
And I think the election of Donald Trump, unfortunately, you and I, again, one day we'll probably sit down and we'll tell the story of our role in his, in how he went from coming down the escalator at Trump Tower to, you know, surprising everyone and doing, you know, he didn't win Iowa, of course, back in 2016.
Ted Cruz won Iowa, but then he just completely went on just this, this tear.
By talking about ideas and that resonated with the actual American people, but really his election, the subsequent couple years after for the corporate media, those in power, was a postmortem to try and figure out how, how the rise of Trump came.
And I'm reading an article now from the New York Times Magazine.
This was published on August 3rd, 2017.
For the new far right, YouTube has become the new talk radio.
And they spent a lot of time talking about someone I don't even remember.
Black Pigeon Speaks.
Do you remember him?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, they're mad that he had 215,000 followers at the time.
His uploads have been viewed more than 25 million times.
Now, you and I were friends.
I was very close with the late Colin Flaherty and some of his videos would upload,
would have millions of views.
And he got kicked off, he was one of the first people to really start getting demonetized
and then just having his channel shut down, Mr. Hood.
He once showed me his dashboard and he was making some months 12 to $15,000 a month
in advertising revenue because major corporations were saying, hey, all these videos are getting viewed.
So I guess this is how the algorithm works.
We're gonna have some ads.
Mm-hmm.
So he was giving massive ad revenue and then of course that pipeline shut down when and let's see if I can find the date 2019 I'm sure you remember this story the making of a YouTube radical.
Yeah I remember that this was this was one of the bigger stories the New York Times did where they analyzed This one guy claimed he was brainwashed and they tried to figure out You've seen that great meme from Always Sun in Philadelphia where one of the characters has all the strings and he's trying to come up with this conspiracy theory.
That's basically what this article was.
I'm looking at the pictures of the people who were featured on there.
It's all Stefan Molyneux.
It's Milo Yiannopoulos.
It's Laura Southern.
It's oh my gosh Faith Goldie.
It's Gavin McGinnis.
These were all the people who were targeted Alex Jones Sargon like you said He was there Steven Crowder, I'm looking at all this who are some other people that I can recognize and a lot of these people were completely Digitally nuked out of out of orbit.
Yeah And never came back.
I mean Stefan Molyneux has now become basically a relationship Therapist online.
He doesn't even talk about politics Yeah, he was yeah, I mean he was making like millions I believe given yeah Mullen, you had had a very, very good following.
And a lot of my very good close friends who work in corporate America, we would talk about his his podcast that he would do and how brilliant they were.
You know, he interviewed, I believe, a couple of times, Jared Taylor.
He did.
Peter Brimelow, too.
I mean, this is sort of the question is that and again, I don't like giving them credit, but.
When you deplatform guys like this, you do shift The whole debate I mean you are It's not just that you're you're shifting the bait to you're also financially crippling Certain people which means that they have less time and less freedom to talk about these kinds of things And so they they shift and as you point out they talk about other stuff and said which may not be as important to us the question is whether this This leads to a an overall negative effect for them in the long term because right now there's
I don't want to be too optimistic.
Certainly, many people would not accuse me of being too optimistic, but... You?
Yeah, right.
It does seem to me that there is a kind of loss of legitimacy that just wasn't there in, say, 2017.
I mean, if you had... When we started out, or when I started out, you know, writing for countercurrents and stuff like that, my kind of most extreme, shall we say, period, A lot of the things that I was talking about are now mainstream Republican talking points.
I mean, there was never a point in, like, 2012, even, where I said, hey, you know what we need to do?
Like, abolish the FBI.
But now, like, normal Republicans say that all the time.
The idea that, oh, well, democracy's fake, and all these things are happening, and oh, the deep state is actually telling you what you are and are not allowed to say, and They'll just kidnap you and throw you in jail without any charges and all these sorts of things.
I mean, this is no longer from the fever swamps.
This is the kind of thing that you'll hear from mainstream Republican groups.
Now, the problem, of course, is that this, aside from Trump and maybe Vivek, there's not been much of an impact when it comes to Republican politicians.
I mean, at the end of the day, you still have sort of the Mitch McConnell politicians where They really see their own base, their own voters as an enemy to be destroyed.
They don't like these people.
They're embarrassed that they have to win their votes.
They'll be happy when these people are replaced and every state in the union looks like California.
But these people are still there.
And right now, barring, you know, some incredible upsets and coming primaries, it does look like Donald Trump, despite or maybe because of all the indictments that he's dealing with, Is going to get the nomination and here's the key a lot of the people who are wealthy and should not be Making terms with the donald are doing this now.
I think it was JPMorgan chase ceo, uh, jimmy dornan was saying that he That trump was right on the key issues like immigration an interview a few days ago And you're also seeing in reaction to some of the stuff that happened on Harvard, not that these people are ever going to become Republicans, but they're saying things about the left, which just weren't an option a few years ago.
Culturally, it does seem like some of the elites are trying to get off the sinking ship.
Yeah, what you're referring to is Jamie Dimon, who's one of the most important people on the planet.
He runs JP Morgan.
Yeah, probably the best guy of all the major bank CEOs.
He seems to be the one with his eye on the ball the most.
Yeah, you know, he basically, and this is a Davos, no less like the greatest concentration of power on the planet.
And he just said, just, you know, he, he said this, I'll quote him.
He said, quote, just take a step back and be honest.
He was kind of right about NATO.
I'm referring to Trump, kind of right on immigration, grew the economy quite well.
Those tax reforms worked.
He was right about some of China.
And Diamond said this at, I'm sorry, let me pull this up, to the World Economic Forum
Confab.
And I mean, this is not just some huckster on Twitter talking.
This is a bonafide member of the global elite, people who are the architects of your New World Order type machinations.
They see what's going on right now, this global instability, and that there is a threat to their power.
And as you always say, and as Samuel Francis, a disciple of James Burnham, what is the purpose of politics?
It's the pursuit of power, is it not?
Well, one of the things that we have to consider, and this is going to be the obvious thing, and people could say this about Trump too, is you're going to get the accusations of like, well, controlled opposition, or well, this is a safety valve, and they're trying to do this, the other thing.
This is 100% a real danger.
I'm not up here being like, oh, these are all conspiracy theories.
If there's one thing I've learned, and I am somebody who definitely used to scoff at this kind of thing, if there's one thing I've learned in my career in this Very strange subculture that we find ourselves in sometimes that there sometimes are really wheels within wheels that there are weird plots that sometimes people are not what they seem to be.
But at the same time, any movement of any significant is going you're going to get elite defections.
The only way you get change in any system, it's not, there's never a point where the people rise up and overthrow the system or replace the system.
A system only collapses when you have division within the elite.
So the fact that you have these elite divisions, Even if they're being self-serving, even if you think they're trying to redirect some of these healthy impulses into channels that we may not want them to go, even if it's a deliberate plot to try to screw things up, the very fact that it's happening, the very fact that they feel the need to maneuver in this way, is pretty significant.
And I think the real fundamental question we have to ask ourselves is this,
and this is something that you on X have brought up to Mr.
Musk directly.
Hopefully he's seen it on quite a few occasions.
We all have this premise that rich people stand to benefit that the very wealthy,
I don't mean somebody who has like a nice house and makes like a million
dollars. I mean the true 1%.
These people benefit from mass immigration.
They benefit from cheap labor and dumping the cost of the taxpayer.
They're at home everywhere and nowhere.
They have no particular attachment to America.
Free movement of capital and labor is the most important consideration.
But that only goes so far because there still has to be a system that functions Pretty well underneath all that they still have to assume that their property is going to be secure And that you're not going to have people just get voted in to redistribute it and take it away That you're not going to have crime increasing to the point where it disrupts business That foreign policy is at least going to be waged in a way that's competent enough such that global trade is not disrupted as we see now in the middle east and also that we're not going to just lose wars because you know the
The iron fist under the velvet glove that keeps globalization going is the United States Navy, and the United States Navy is not looking too good right now.
If you look at foreign policy, say, the adults in the room, so-called, in the Biden administration are simply less competent than the supposedly chaotic Trump administration was.
And I'm not saying in the sense of, oh, well, Trump was an American first patriot.
I'm saying from even if you take Their kind of foreign policy, the kind of priorities that they would have.
Trump was better at upholding that kind of foreign policy, just sheer competence, than the supposed veteran Joe Biden is.
And I think a lot of people are beginning to notice this.
If you look at American relations with Saudi Arabia and Iran, they're a catastrophe.
What's happening with China is deeply concerning.
Certainly, obviously, with Russia, it's just gone.
And there may be a very embarrassing moment in the next year where the entire Western world has to pretty much accept that they just lost, or at least did not win, a proxy war against Russia when it comes to Ukraine.
Regardless of what you think about it, whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, it's just a question of who wins and who loses.
I mean, that's what's most important, these kinds of things.
And then you look at what the federal government is able to do.
I mean, we're in more debt than we've ever been in history, and yet nothing is being produced.
I mean, it's not World War II.
We're not building some giant infrastructure thing.
All the money is just kind of going to this black hole of endless minority grievance and taking care of every hungry mouth in the third world, and it's never going to end.
And the more we do this, the greater the odds of a Venezuela-style political revolution in this country, which is going to destroy the elite.
You could say, yeah, okay, maybe they have it coming, and I would agree, but at the same time, you can't expect them just to sit there and deal with it.
So you look at a guy like Elon Musk, who I think is interesting because he's a wealthy guy who seems to have ambitions beyond just move away from the chaos and run out the clock until you die.
He wants to do exciting things.
He really believes in what he's doing with electric cars.
He really believes in what he's doing with space travel.
He really believes in what he's doing with Starlink.
He really believes in what he's doing with a lot of these companies.
He really believed, hey, hey, listen, he really believed in the tunnels that he was trying to do.
Yeah, exactly.
The boring company and stuff like that.
Yeah.
I mean, this is a guy who wants to do things in the real world.
And I think at some level, he has to understand that they're just not going to let him do that.
You know, this isn't the America of, like, Walt Disney or something, where you can dream about the future, and America's going to be the place where it's all going to be, like, Tomorrowland or something like that.
This is now the country where, if you remember the great picture from the moon, from the Apollo 11 launch, where civil rights protesters were protesting the launch of the rocket, saying, well, we're not allowed to go to the moon because, like, there are hungry black people in the ghetto.
Billions and billions of space done for the poor.
Right.
The highest priority of the government now.
We're not allowed to do nice things because we imported these people who are not able to feed themselves and now it's your problem.
And basically the purpose of life is now to just work your entire life to babysit people who hate your guts and would starve to death if it were not for your largesse.
And you have to ask, I'm putting that in as brutal a way as I can.
If you're somebody like Elon Musk, or frankly, anybody who's got any kind of success or willpower or dreams beyond just sitting around and watching Netflix, you have to ask yourself, is this really the purpose of life?
Is this the reason we're here?
And I think at some level, there's something within him being like, no.
Now, of course, he still has to deal with power.
And I mean, I think he's over-touring Auschwitz or something as we speak, and getting screened out with Ben Shapiro, no less.
Yeah.
And you know, the funny thing, of course, is that left wing reporters are going to say like, this is just more proof that he's kissing up to the extreme right wing with guys like Ben Shapiro.
If only the people really do need to understand going to the sort of safety valve and phony opposition.
I mean, they're always going to need people to sort of be the face of the right wing, where there's this This game where they attack a guy like Ben Shapiro as if he's an enemy, but I think they all know in the end that they kind of need a guy like that to make sure the right wing doesn't really go anywhere.
But even a guy like Ben Shapiro is facing some pressure.
I mean, after all, you brought up Matt Walsh.
Matt Walsh works for him, does he not?
Yeah, as does Candace Owens.
I'm kind of wondering about that.
When Candace Owens basically hauled him out in front of the entire world, I'm like, can you do that to your boss?
To be like me condemning Derek Taylor in a lot of ways.
I guess, yeah.
You were talking about Elon Musk as sort of this, almost a Disney figure, who has a vision of the future that makes humanity better.
And you talked about with George Clooney as the main character.
It didn't do that well.
You know, George Clooney's not really a leading man.
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Right, right, right.
But there's a great, but there's a great premise of that movie is that people stopped believing that things would get better and they gradually accepted and acquiesced to the idea that, hey, things are just going to get worse.
They're not going to get better.
And you know, the main character, the heroine in that story, she says, well, can we fix it?
Can we stop this?
And Basically, that changes the whole trajectory of history.
And that's sort of what Musk exists as.
Because, you know, the elite, things are going to continue to get better for them.
As you've stated, mass immigration makes things worse for those who could be down the line opposition or could replace them.
And think about Jeff Bezos, Mr. Hood.
Jeff Bezos back in July of 20, I'm sorry, of August of 2013, he spent $250 $1,000,000 to buy the Washington Post to have a seat at the table.
You know, here was a guy who was, you know, famous for starting a very good book company, a book reselling company, Amazon.
And he also has a dream with, I think it's called Blue Origin.
That's his space program.
Is that correct on that?
That's their space.
Yeah, that's the competitor to SpaceX.
It's not even in the same league, but it has done some recreational space travel.
I think they were the ones who did William Shatner, wasn't it?
Correct.
I believe so.
But you think about you think about the interesting trajectory of the Washington Post under Bezos, where he's, you know, he bought a seat in, you know, at the at the power table, so to speak.
And then Elon Musk, who gets Twitter, they, you know, Twitter's lost a lot of money because, you know, of what happened with the ADL.
You know, he's come out and said the ADL costs, what, 60% of the revenue when they went to war with them?
Yeah.
And media matters.
Again, he's called out media matters for what they've done.
Their pernicious influence in trying to get people to get off and claim it's more of Yeah.
quote-unquote hate site, but you know Mr. Karpatrick, Mr.
Hood, Mr. Karpatrick, Kevin, call me whatever you want, just call me Kevin. Yeah, it's
just Bill.
The Washington Post is laying off scores of reporters. You know, the Washington Post,
LA Times too, I believe, today. And here's an anecdote for you.
You know, I'm you know, I'm very good friends with Peter and Lydia and Lydia Brimlow.
And the Washington Post had a cover story where they dedicated a number of journalists to go to Berkeley Springs to try and denigrate.
And I would say libel the Brimlows for buying the castle there in Berkeley Springs, which is about two hours from from Washington, D.C., and tried to say that they were bringing hate to a small, you know, a small Somewhat liberal town that relies heavily on, on, um, on hospitality and stuff like that.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, again, this article appeared in the Washington post, you know, below the, it was below the fold, but on the very back page, it had this big picture of Peter and stuff.
And I remember Peter would call me and he'd be freaking out about it.
It was published.
I went and bought some copies just to have.
It made no impact.
Some of his best friends that he knows didn't even know it was published in the Washington Post.
Yeah, I mean, not to... I mean, we can talk about the way things have changed somewhat, but the things that really matter are their ability to mess with your ability to get money and then, of course, lawfare if you're unfortunate enough to get sucked into that.
But when you talk about hostile media coverage, I think the power of that... This is why I think they're having to move to To hard power, to hard repression, to straightforward tactics you would see out of the Eastern Bloc, as opposed to what they were able to do 10 years ago.
10 years ago, I mean, not to remember when is the lowest form of conversation, but as an example, when I had YWC, we had hostile Media articles come out against us.
It had an impact.
It was something I had to deal with.
People would call me.
They would say, how are we going to respond to this?
You would have to soothe people who were freaking out.
Now it's just not a thing.
People just kind of take it for granted that the media is going to lose its mind about stuff.
And every single one of these newspapers sort of sounds like some Antifa blog at this point.
Now if you're on the left you could argue that this is good because now you've got the corporate press no longer doing this even-handed both sides thing.
If you remember that was what like Jon Stewart used to always go after with the Daily Show.
Insofar as he had a political message that's basically what it was.
That the media needs to not Be doing this both sides respectable coverage of both things and it needs to just be openly partisan and just like sneering at the right well okay you got what you wanted but the flip side of that is that now nobody on our side at least nobody who I care to talk to or want to communicate with cares what these people have to say I mean.
Just for my own thing, I mean, one of the reasons I'm being so casual about all this kind of stuff is, you know, when I got doxxed, nobody even noticed.
I didn't even notice.
I didn't find out about it until like a week or two later when someone was like, oh yeah, did you see that thing?
No?
Oh, okay.
And that was the end of it.
That's unthinkable compared to what would have happened in 2015, 2016.
And a lot of the hits and a lot of the people who were destroyed, including people who went to jail, including people who lost their jobs, including people who suffered an awful lot, 2015, 2016, 2017, these sacrifices were not made in vain.
You know, in every struggle, there are casualties.
And the only question is what has been lost and what has been gained, as Jack Nicholson said in Hoffa.
And What has been gained, essentially, is that the greatest weapons of the other side have essentially been neutered when it comes to the American right.
Now, what they've had to do is they've had to switch to more fearsome weapons.
But when you do that, you are costing yourself legitimacy.
When you have the fact that, I don't know if it'll be enough.
I still think Trump is a massive underdog.
That's a topic for another day.
We need to see how New Hampshire plays out and everything else.
But If you look at what the government and what the progressives are arraying against conservatives now, it's very crude, it's very blunt, and it's very obvious.
And because it is all of those things, it's a lot easier to fight back than it was a decade ago.
And the idea that somebody like Elon Musk would buy X basically because he thought it was ridiculous that you couldn't do conservative satire of the sort that the Babylon Bee was doing, that by itself Is a pretty remarkable step because there is no way he would have even thought of doing something like that 10 years ago.
And you could say, yeah, well, that's because we all had free speech then.
But I would argue it's probably better to have elites somewhat on your side, even than it is to just have free speech.
I mean, you get free speech for what, right?
I mean, it's not, it's necessary, but it's not sufficient.
We actually have to have some serious people at our back if we're going to get anywhere.
It would be unthinkable that a guy like Keith Woods, who again, spoke at the American Renaissance event back in 2023.
Great speech, by the way.
Yeah, I encourage every listener to go check that out.
He's one of the top influencers.
I mean, come on, guys.
He's just never been allowed under Dorsey.
And he's bringing up issues that really matter.
He's looking at things in the way that you do, not just at the micro of what's good for Ireland, because he's Irish, but on the macro level of a pan-Europeanism, of a European Union that actually puts the European people first.
I want to just push back on that a little bit.
I mean, what he actually said.
In the speech, I think he's more of a nationalist for all nations type.
I mean, we might have a subtle disagreement there, but in terms of actual practical politics, it doesn't even matter.
I pretty much agree with him on everything in terms of what's going on.
But if you think of what's happening in Ireland, too, let's talk about What Elon Musk's takeover of X means in terms of practical politics.
Richard Mania, who you and I have discussed on other occasions, said, and I agree with him, that Musk taking over X in many ways is the reason why you actually see an absolute decline in the number of transgenders now, because you have people pushing back against it.
And so it doesn't have that That connotation with power and social proof that it used to have.
If you think of the recent riots in Ireland and the massive reaction to that internationally, that would not have happened if X was not the way it is.
You could argue that the border crisis, which is going on now, Musk has been, and Musk is not an immigration restrictionist, I think Peter Bromo would call on basically, you know, not just a squish, but actively on the other side because he wants more legal immigration.
Yeah.
But Musk has been saying over and over again, and he went to the border himself.
People forget that.
Cowboy hat and all.
He went to the border and said, you cannot have this kind of chaos on the Southern border.
And I think even a lot of people who think that legal immigration is a good thing would agree with that.
You can't just have like absolute anarchy.
Where anybody shows up and you have no idea who these people are, particularly coming just another couple years when the federal government claimed the right to dictate our medical care and tell us where we could and could not go and what funerals were allowed to attend and whatever else.
The anarcho-tyranny is so obvious now, but even if it's obvious, it doesn't get anywhere if you don't have a place to talk about it.
And X has become that place.
Musk has a platform that nobody else in the world has.
The only thing that I guess he really doesn't have going for him right now is because Trump signed that stupid deal where he has to be on Truth Social, right?
Everybody's always like, oh, come back to X. He can't come back to X. I think he's got some sort of agreement with Truth Social that he has to post there.
In a weird way, that might actually be working out for him, because it kind of prevents some of the crazier things that he says from getting circulation to some people.
But it probably hurts most, because you want Trump back on the platform.
Maybe if he wins, maybe if he gets the nomination, he'll come back, because then he can use his own account.
I was going to say, I bet you once he's secured the nomination, which I believe will be very, very, very soon.
Yeah, I think he will go back to Twitter as candidate.
I'm sure there's some loophole that he's seen that allows him when he's speaking as Donald Trump, the person, you know, he's, you know, in a lot of ways, Trump is such a, you know, the byproduct of professional wrestling.
And on a day when the WWE just moved over to Netflix for five billion dollars, which is amazing to me as a as a TKO shareholder to see that happen.
You know, Trump's Trump is Trump is, you know, basically a wrestling persona in a lot of ways.
Elon Musk is.
And right now, you know, Elon Musk, he's a face.
And in wrestling parlance, a face means the good guy.
And we have to look at that, you know, again, Elon Musk is allowing, yes, he's not allowing everyone on.
Oh, gosh, that stinks.
I'm sorry.
You know, well, it's easy.
I mean, it's easy for us to say.
I mean, let's be clear about that.
I agree.
No, I agree.
But there are other things you can do.
There are other ways.
You know, Jared Taylor, when he lost his YouTube account, you know, Jared and I, our podcast channel had 35,000 subscribers.
And it was built in such a way on the YouTube, I'm sorry, when it was, when it was shut down and I believe June of 2020 and people would be notified.
I mean, when you lose that ability, I remember someone said, wow, I just found you guys on rumble again.
I thought you guys just stopped doing your podcast.
You know, you become complacent when there's one platform that is going to signal to you, um, through an email notification.
Oh gosh, another, another podcast just dropped.
I mean, that's one of the downfalls of a platform like Rumble or some of the other ones that bit shoot and stuff.
Yeah, but Rumble has had a significant impact in the sense, if you look at Russell Brand's side, I mean, keep in mind, as of the time we're recording this, no charges have been brought against him.
But the British government, top down, was demanding that all these social media channels de-platform him based on accusations.
That he may or may not have done something however many years ago because you know obviously the statute of limitations just got like randomly abolished for some reason And you know 20 years ago if you might have said something like you may get arrested for that now That's just the way the law works.
It's fun living in a free country But they were demanding that he be de-platformed for all these things.
Rumble did not de-platform him, and so he's still got his thing there.
I believe Fuentes is still on Rumble.
I think Sneeko, who's one of these influencers—I mean, I follow him, but I know he's one of these guys who got, like, pushed off because of various politically incorrect stuff.
He's got his thing on Rumble.
Now, Rumble is not perfect.
It's not, as a platform, you could argue that maybe this or that is lacking.
You could argue that they're not giving enough prominence to certain people that maybe they should.
But the fact that it is there, and the fact that it's not just a purely marginal thing now.
Like, enough people are using it that it has an impact.
It's not the same thing as YouTube, certainly.
But it's not nothing.
And the future may be, Mainstream social media platforms just entirely die.
Certainly you and I, I mean, much to our surprise, are not young men anymore.
We're, you know, middle-aged dads.
And yet I think we're young enough that we would consider it extremely lame to be using like Facebook.
Like Facebook is now kind of an old person platform, which is crazy considering what it used to be.
It's got a little niche and outside that it's kind of irrelevant.
And I think that's probably going to be the future for most social media platforms.
A lot of these things that we think of as sort of universal access tend to fade pretty quickly.
That might actually be healthier for us if you have a lot of social media platforms that are just each one is for a specific subculture and doesn't really extend outside of that.
As a matter of fact, I think the only one that really does have universal appeal at this point is X, which means that the most powerful guy in the world, if you consider media to be the root of power in the modern world, the most powerful guy is probably Elon Musk.
Yeah.
I mean, again, just go back, you think 10 years, 11 years ago, you know, Bezos, He buys the post because he wants to see the power, and now Musk.
Yeah, nobody thinks he's powerful.
Nobody thinks he's powerful.
No, they laugh at him.
They laugh at him for being a simp for marrying Tony Gonzalez's ex-wife.
You know, I will say, as someone who lifts and works out a lot, it is interesting to see his body transformation.
He's gotten a little bit buffer, but in a lot of ways, he just wants to have his trophy light-skinned.
Uh, Hispanic, uh, wife with her augmentation on yachts and go to, you know, the Cannes Film Fest and hobnob with celebrities.
Um, famously remember when, uh, she looked up, uh, at some awards, uh, film award ceremony, Leonardo DiCaprio and she Googled, you know, uh, he, you know, she was just fawning over DiCaprio and on Twitter, You know, Bezos said, hey, be careful, DiCaprio.
He kind of joked about it, but he was basically, basically cucked by his own wife.
And you think about what Musk is doing, though.
And again, he's running arguably one of the most important companies on the planet,
Tesla, SpaceX.
He's doing all these amazing things, and yet, you know, he's spending a lot of time on Twitter.
And he just came out and said, there's no vetting process.
I'm the only person who's tweeting this stuff.
And when we talk about that, you know, this year, okay, going back to like the fourth quarter, 2023,
think about all the things he tweeted.
He tweeted about the black on white crime gap and how there's virtually no white on black crime.
He was talking about interracial crime.
He's tweeting, you know, all these memes and these charts.
He's bringing up what's happening in South Africa with kill the boar.
And as a South African, you know, he knows what happened to South Africa.
Come on.
He's an incredibly sagacious, smart guy.
So, and then he's then with the Irish situation.
I mean, you never see, he has talked about the economic freedom fighters and Malema, Julius Malema, who of course is the leader of this black Marxist group, ferociously anti-white, ferociously anti-capitalist, anti-freedom, certainly.
And, you know, I'm not saying anti-capitalist Trump be like a reactionary Republican here.
I'm speaking from, you know, Musk's perspective.
Certainly he's going to see somebody like the EFF as a threat.
But you haven't, aside from that, he hasn't spoken that much about South Africa.
One of the things I just wrote for American Renaissance recently was about the Cape Independence movement, because there's elections coming up in South Africa and there is the very real possibility of, and the ANC has held power more or less unchallenged since Mandela took over.
but there's a very real possibility that they will not get a majority this time.
And so then you will get a coalition government with the ANC and the FF.
Now, the democratic alliance is sort of the only opposition party, but,
you know, they're not particularly bold, but they're what passes for the independence party.
But a lot of the forces, even within that are basically saying that it's time to get
out of South Africa.
If that happens, Democratic Alliance governs the Cape province and majorities show that a majority of Voters in that province want a referendum on independence.
Basically, super majorities of just about every ethnic group except the blacks and even the blacks, it's a very, very high minority that wants the referendum.
This is not like a white only movement.
In fact, I think the colors and I'm not trying to be offensive here, the colors is like actually what it's called in South Africa, the colored Group, which is like indians mixed race people like that.
They're actually more in support of cape independence than whites are so I'd be very interested to see depending on how south africa plays out if musk would say something about the cape independence movement because That's something where He could he could make a real difference.
There are obviously a lot of businessmen there who want to push it forward, but also he's not going to get accused of Yeah, you know, but he will be accused of I found some another article real quick to talk about just about the power of Elon Musk and going back to, you know, some of these issues that when we were growing up were
You know, we would joke about transgenderism.
I mean, the famously in Ace Ventura, Pet Detective, he finds out that he kissed a guy who's actually he kissed a girl who's actually a guy in NFL kicker.
And.
And, you know, Jim Carrey's character Ace Ventura, he then goes and throws up and burns his clothes and he's disgusted by it.
You know, who is the one person that Elon Musk has made pretty much a household name or a very big individual?
And that's libs of TikTok and The Washington Post, Mr. Mr. Deanna.
On November 16th, 2023, published a front page above the fold story, Elon Musk, TikTok, and the social media ownership problem, where they said, you know, Elon, he casually replies to friend right voices on that platform.
And on Wednesday, he seemingly offered his platform to, you know, Libs of TikTok, who has done a great job attacking.
She routinely says the most important two words you can say Innocence.
Anti-white.
And, you know, she's Jewish, but she's done an amazing job of bringing to light so many crazy stories.
And Elon has no problem retweeting her.
And, you know, in a lot of ways, that conversation is a dead starter now, as you mentioned what Hanani is saying, when there's pushback.
And that's why Elon Musk purchased Twitter.
Yes, it sucks that so many great voices like Jared Taylor have not been allowed back on, or Nick Fuentes.
Or a whole host of other people who made such an impact in 2015, 2016, but their sacrifices have enabled the, the, the very dialogue that they were having then are now in the mouths or in the 140 characters or less, um, of individuals who have massive platforms.
And now you can't publish articles in New York times.
Yeah, yeah.
which destroys someone like Stefan Molyneux in 2019, because effectively any right-wing
conservative person, they're all saying the same thing.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, one of the big things too with what Musk has been doing, and certainly you see
the way the debate has changed, even what you just talked about with the Post, the idea
that, well, he's platforming the wrong people, and therefore this is a serious problem.
And how quickly the debate has changed from, well, it's a private platform, guys.
They can censor whoever they want.
It's not up to you.
The First Amendment doesn't apply to private industry.
And then suddenly, when Elon Musk takes over, all of a sudden, it's a problem for democracy when a billionaire has this and he's He's platforming voices which are destructive to our democracy and are fomenting division.
You can't pin these guys down with anything and at a certain point, sort of the flip side with free speech is you also just kind of have to dismiss what the other side is saying entirely because none of it is being made in good faith.
The arguments always change depending on who it is, depends what ethnic group is talking, it depends what specific businessmen they're trying to go after, it depends on whatever the political conditions are of the day, and the number one issue that I think defines our entire form of government and form of society at this point is The supposed right of certain NGOs to determine what ordinary citizens are and are not allowed to say, and if they have the wrong opinions, whether they're allowed to hold a job, whether they're allowed to get a security clearance, whether they're allowed to be in the military, whether they're allowed to have kids or adopt kids, or whether they're going to have their kids taken away.
Certainly, after some of the polling data you saw during the height of the COVID-19 frenzy, I don't think anybody should have any illusions about what people are willing to do.
You had huge percentages of Democrats saying that if you didn't vaccinate your kids, your kids should be taken away.
And frankly, I think if the poll had just said, if you don't agree with this ideology, you should have your kids taken away, I think the polling data would have been pretty much the same.
It's just a tribal thing.
I don't think it has anything to do with what the actual subject under discussion is.
We have to be completely—basically fanatics, and I don't want to sound like a spurg on this, but I think we—if you're going to spurg out on anything, I think you should spurg out on this.
We have to be completely uncompromising on the free speech thing.
So when people say—because everyone tries to be too clever by half, and they say, like, oh, well, you know, this guy's a bad actor, so it's actually good if he's banned, and oh, well, you know, I think that it's important that we ban these people because then we can have a more respectable thing and ordinary people will like us.
Like, no, none of this should even be under discussion.
When you have a democratic government that is censoring speech, at that point it's no longer a legitimate government, because the whole premise is that the people have the right to decide.
What policies are best for them after free discussion?
If you don't have free discussion, then it's no different than any other form of government.
In fact, it's actually worse because there's no clear sovereign.
There's nobody to be held accountable.
And I would argue that certainly the form of government we have now deliberately promotes dysfunction and criminality and incompetence because the worse people are, the more power those who rule us get.
To me, that's not just a bad form of government.
It's the worst form of government.
Churchill is wrong that democracy is the worst form of government, period.
That's the end of the sentence.
There's nothing else to say.
Because even if you're under an absolute tyranny of one guy, if things get really bad, at least you know who there is to blame.
At least you can do something about it.
But what do you do in a system where nobody is sovereign, nobody has accountability, and also you're not even allowed to talk about it?
You know, it's it's funny you say that.
There was a writer at the Los Angeles Times, Michael Hiltzik, who on January 10th, 2022, tweeted this.
He wrote a column with this title.
Mocking anti-vaxxers deaths is ghoulish.
Yes, but necessary.
He just lost his job today, along with 115 other Los Angeles Times employees.
AJAB, right?
All journalists are bastards.
And what you're saying is, again, these organs, the Los Angeles Times, WAPO, the New York Times, Miami Herald, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Wall Street Journal, they are the apparatuses of what you cleverly call the state-run, I'm sorry, the media-run state.
And as we start to see the erosion of that power, something has to take its place.
If there's a vacuum, something else has to step in.
And I think as you stated, Elon Musk, and again, he's coming under a lot of pressure right now.
Again, the CEO of Twitter.
Yeah.
I mean, I think, I think Musk, you know, the black pill is not that.
Musk is a traitor.
He didn't, he's not following through on everything he said.
And you know, I'm pretty mad that like Jared isn't let back on obviously, but I think the real black pill is that he's probably doing The best he can right now with the pressure that he's dealing with.
And if he went literally any farther, they would just break him in half.
I mean, look, if Biden wins re-election, they're going to throw him in jail.
There's not a doubt in my mind.
Well, look how many investigations for... Oh, yeah, 100%.
Like, you know, apparently he was just like a huge criminal and like, you know, whipping black people for fun like this entire time.
And we just didn't know about it until two years ago.
But suddenly every single government body like discovered all at once that he's committing every crime you've ever heard of.
Agreed, agreed.
So, again, there's a lot to be optimistic about.
I know that's a word that Infrequently is tossed around when it comes to your thinking, but I'm very... Optimism is cowardice.
Yes, yes.
All right.
There is something to be said for it, and I think we'll wrap it up, but I want to close by saying there are reasons for hope, but we should not underestimate the tenuousness of the position and how scary things could get.
If Biden wins, if certain things don't go away, if they're able to break Musk, the real thing that's needed is Musk is out there kind of on his own and he needs some other people to sort of step up and give him some cover, not You know, Bill Ackman and people like that being like, oh, well, you know, Harvard's bad because it's not pro-Israel enough.
And therefore, I'm going to give a million dollars to some anti-Biden Democrat because that'll make a difference.
Like, no, we need guys who are actually willing to do something that's important and that matters.
And that's actually standing up for Americans, including the rights that until a few years ago, we could all take for granted.
It's not that free speech is going to win the day for us, but I do think it's necessary, if not sufficient.
And if we don't get that, we're not going to be able to get anywhere.
And for better or worse, you know, the bias time to wake up as many minds as possible to actually then a, you know, liberate ourselves from this occupation, whatever you want to call it, this occupation, government, this occupation, culture, this occupation of a nation that was supposed to be for our posterity, but instead is Anything but that right now.
It's about the denigration and really the annihilation of the founding population of this country.
Right.
And it doesn't matter.
How can people get in touch with you?
Well, if you go to American Renaissance, you can contact our writers.
There's a section on the website and you'll be able to email me there if you have any suggestions for what you want to talk about in future episodes.
And certainly I want to say that We're going to be announcing some of the stuff about the conference pretty soon, so keep an eye out for that.
I'd love to meet some of you guys in person.
And most of all, keep your chin up.
I mean, I know it's tough out there for everybody.
This is one of the things that I want to talk about in terms of practicality.
It's not your imagination.
It's not, oh, just, you know, work hard, guys.
Like, no.
Like, actually, there are people out there who want to get you.
Actually, power is aligned against you.
Actually, It's not your imagination.
The government and the system more broadly really is set up to deliberately screw you over, and a good chunk of it is just because people think it's funny and it's out of spite.
That is what we're facing.
But we're Europeans.
We can do whatever we want.
We're capable of anything.
It's just a question of willpower, it's a question of dedication, and it's a question of solidarity.
So with that in mind, Paul, thank you for joining me today.
I'm Gregory Hood.
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