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Feb. 9, 2022 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Meet Neil Kumar, Candidate for US Congress
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to Radio Renaissance.
This is a special edition with a special guest.
Our guest is Neil Kumar.
He is running for Congress in Arkansas, and he is running as Republican, but by no means is he your ordinary Republican.
It's a great pleasure to have you on.
Thank you for joining us, Mr. Kumar.
Thank you for having me, Mr. Taylor.
Yes.
First of all, could you tell us a little bit about your background?
Tell us about your heritage.
Yes, sir.
So, as you can surmise from my last name, my father is Indian.
He came to America in 1984 and became a citizen in 2001.
And what you wouldn't be able to know from my last name at first sight is that I am descended from pre-revolutionary stock.
My maternal line is Scots-Irish, and we've called this nation home since the 17th century, the 1600s in South Carolina.
So, 400 years of Southern ancestry flows through my veins.
I'm a proud member of the Sons of the American Revolution and I'm a life member of Sons of Confederate Veterans.
I've got at least eight ancestors who fought for the Confederacy and at least one in the Revolution.
Now, one of the things that I get asked about my father's Heritage is how can you be anti-immigration if your father is an immigrant?
So obviously my dad wouldn't have been able to come here without the 1965 Hartzeller Immigration Act, but that has no impact whatsoever on my knowing that that act was one of the worst attacks our nation ever suffered.
I want to overturn it completely.
And if you look at my platform, the very first thing on it is stop the great replacement.
Yes, I certainly noticed that, and that is something that will catch the eye of all of our listeners, I suspect.
Stopping the Great Replacement is one of the most important things we can possibly do.
Can you tell me a little bit about how you came to see that as such an important thing to accomplish?
Yeah, so I grew up in Bentonville, Arkansas, which was 90% white at the time, and I bought all the egalitarian hogwash, hook, line, and sinker. I was an Obama
supporter. I read Howard Zinn. I watched Rachel Maddow, etc. Like many young Southerners, the
education system indoctrinated me to hate the South. And it really wasn't until college at the
University of Chicago that the veil was pierced.
As you probably know, the University of Chicago is located in Hyde Park on the south side, and it was a rude awakening to witness exactly what the leftist policies that I thought I supported actually wrought in reality.
But it was even ruder an awakening to realize that the policies had less to do with the apocalyptic degradation of that once great city than the population itself.
You see, I witnessed racial reality for the first time.
This is the first time that I had really had any dealings with blacks, with black crime.
So when racially blind conservatives talk about, you know, quote-unquote, Democrat-run cities, the implication is that if you put a rock-ribbed Republican like Ronald Reagan in charge, these third-world hellholes would magically turn themselves around.
And living in Chicago, I understood perfectly that the politicians, while certainly grotesque, were but reflections of the real problem, which was the population itself.
Yes, it is remarkable how they keep talking about Democrat-run cities, as if Republicans could come parachuting in and wave a magic wand and all of a sudden the third world populations would start behaving like Danes.
No, it is quite remarkable, but were there any particular incidents or episodes that caused you to open your eyes to this phenomenon?
Yeah, well, I narrowly escaped being mugged two or three times.
I had several friends who had apartments broken into, but really it was just seeing firsthand, living around Non-whites for the first time you just you you you see with your own eyes that Race is more than skin color It's it's so much deeper than that and this awakening to the reality of race occurred almost simultaneously with the 2016 election so seeing every single center of institutional power on earth aligned to destroy the Trump campaign really opened my eyes because this is a
You know, totally non-ideological, pragmatic, civic nationalist whose only real offense was speaking about issues that adversely affect whites.
And because Donald Trump gave life to the concerns of average white people, concerns that no other politician had discussed, in at least a decade, the global establishment tried to shut him down.
And so for the first time in many years, whites began to feel that they had A voice.
And so I started systematically re-educating myself.
I read Your White Identity, Charles Murray's Coming Apart, I studied the Opioid Plague, and I embraced my Southern heritage.
Books like Richard Weaver's The Southern Tradition at Bay started me on a deep intellectual journey.
I delved into the Emrin Archives on topics like black-on-white crime, and I'll never forget reading about the Wichita Massacre and the Knoxville Horror, or your article about Hurricane Katrina.
I tracked down a copy of Race and the American Prospect.
Sam Francis' incredible essay in that anthology, Why the American Ruling Class Betrays Its Race and Civilization, was hugely influential for me.
And I could go on.
I read literally hundreds of books in a three-year period, from 2016 through 2019.
And all this is to say that I came to understand that whites, both in America and across Europe, are under attack.
Whites are facing the greatest threat in civilizational history.
I don't think the term extinction is too hyperbolic, especially when you consider that the rhetoric about whites coming from our government, our media, academia, is purely genocidal.
White identity is the only racial identity which is not only not encouraged, but actively demonized.
Yes, yes, you're absolutely right.
Well, it sounds as though over the three-year period you really did give yourself a self-education campaign that was successful and that completely turned your mind around.
Yeah, I basically, at the University of Chicago, their core curriculum is really centered around Frankfurt School thinkers that, you know, deconstructing nationalism, deconstructing identity, really, you know, everything good and pure in the world, and so I did counter-programming.
Yes, it is there for those who are curious, but of course the other side is doing its best to make it much more difficult to find than it should be.
truth is out there, it just takes time and effort for people to break through.
Yes, it is there for those who are curious, but of course the other side is doing its
best to make it much more difficult to find than it should be.
As you know, American Renaissance and so many other sensible sites have been deplatformed
and Google is making it very, very difficult to find our material.
I, for one, I use DuckDuckGo, I just switched recently, and when I'm looking up particular
articles or facts, I'm pleasantly surprised to see American Renaissance articles, and
that never happens with Google.
But congratulations to you.
There are not very many people who, as a college student, would have the intellectual curiosity and the discipline to educate himself in a way that runs so counter to everything you were being taught.
Now, did you have any friends at University of Chicago who had a similar view of things, or any professors that you could talk to, or were you completely isolated?
Well, unfortunately, I would say I was completely isolated in this awakening.
In fact, I was a member of a fraternity, Delta Kappa Epsilon.
Shortly after graduation, I began writing on these topics, white identity, etc., and I positively quoted San Francis, I called him brilliant, and my fraternity disavowed me.
One of these guys, his name's Keegan Hanks, he's actually an employee of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which I didn't know.
And so he sent this big email saying anyone who praises the white nationalist sin, Francis is brilliant, has no place in this organization or I don't.
Oh for heaven's sake.
Now this is while you were still, this is after you'd graduated or this is while you're still at?
This is very shortly after graduation.
And while I was there, you know, I was still learning and I basically, well, I mean, just sheerly being an open, vocal Trump supporter made me a pariah.
I remember the day after the election, the whole campus, it had like a funeral pallor over it.
People were wearing black like they were in mourning, teachers were Canceling class.
It was really something to see.
Canceling class so that their students could hole up in their dormitory rooms and lick their wounds and cry.
Yes, exactly.
Wow.
Well, good for you.
It is.
When I was in college, I must say I didn't have the intellectual curiosity or the intellectual discipline to go off in some direction that was counter to the prevailing viewpoint, and so I congratulate you absolutely on having done that.
Well, since your graduation, what have you been up to?
So since graduation I took a I took a year off and worked with my father.
He has a flooring company, so I did that and just continued my re-education.
I started writing for Southern Nationalist websites like the Abbeville Institute and Clyde Wilson's Reckoning.
I did a Dixie.
I started writing for VDare, for Amren, and I started law school.
One year after graduation and this would be my final year, but I I took the year off so I could do this campaign Hmm well Do you expect to go back to law school eventually?
Yes, I do You have five years from when you started to finish so after this I'll still have two years That I can finish it up.
But yeah, I mean it's I I'm running for office because that's what I want to do, but it is valuable to have a law degree, especially in, you know, the legal profession has really fallen and white patriots and dissidents have a very hard time finding legal representation now.
And so it's more important than ever that people in our sphere, white advocates, seek legal degrees because, you know, we're going to need it.
Yes, yes.
There's absolutely no question about that.
Well, it sounds as though you can fit in a two-year stint as a congressman in Washington and then go back to law school without any kind of loss of status.
Right, yeah.
I don't particularly enjoy law school.
Even here at the University of Arkansas, it's oppressively leftist.
They've got the masking Requirement and all of that.
But like I said, with the legal picture, especially with this last year with the McMichael verdict and the Ahmaud Arbery case, some real legal travesties have occurred this year.
And it's very clear that white Americans are losing their civil rights.
So it's something that we have to keep fighting at.
Well, I congratulate you for that as well.
That'll be a very important career choice for someone who sees the world accurately the way you do.
Well, at this point, I would like for you to tell our listeners what's the best way that they can find out more about you, about your campaign, about your views.
Yes, sir.
So my website is Neil, N-E-I-L, for Arkansas dot com.
Neil for Arkansas dot com.
And my social media is Gab.
I'm on Facebook.
I was banned once, but I'm very heavily suppressed there and I'm banned entirely from Twitter because I said Derek Chauvin did nothing wrong.
So Gab is my main social media and my name on Gab is Neil for Arkansas.
Well, very good.
Neil for Arkansas dot com.
And then on Gab, Neil for Arkansas also.
Good.
All right.
Well, I am looking at your platform right now.
And as I say, as I see and as you said, stop the great replacement is the number one point here.
And it looks like your number two is defend the Second Amendment.
I think that practically every one of our listeners would probably be very, very happy with these two points.
And there's probably not that much reason to go into why you support them, because these are things that our listeners would entirely understand.
I see also that you want to end the war on the working class.
And as a subsection of that, you say, restore freedom of association by repealing the Civil Rights Act.
And other civil rights acts, other civil rights discrimination, hate and affirmative action legislation.
That's another big piece to bite off.
Tell me a little bit more about that.
Yes.
So, you know, all of this, I call it the egalitarian regime, this constellation of legislation, which really begins with the 1965 Civil Rights, excuse me, 64 Civil Rights Act, which, you know, It was never about abolishing a racial hierarchy.
It was about establishing a new one with whites at the bottom.
The first thing to understand about repealing the Civil Rights Act is that this is not a fringe position.
In 2020, Christopher Caldwell published The Age of Entitlement.
Best-selling book explaining that the Civil Rights Act created a second Constitution, one which was incompatible with the original Constitution and which has ultimately replaced it.
Because when you make these grand sweeping declarations of equality, you also necessarily have to create enforcement mechanisms.
And the way that these enforcement mechanisms function, inevitably, is anti-white Racial Discrimination.
And this book received critical acclaim across conservative media.
The Wall Street Journal.
Tucker Carlson called it one of the best books he'd read that year.
And of course, when the Civil Rights Act was passed, the overwhelming majority of the American people opposed it.
This was the prime example of the political class voting against the expressed wishes of its constituents.
And so why do I want to repeal it?
Well, first, it's unconstitutional.
In the first place, the 14th Amendment, which itself has an endless list of serious issues that I could spend hours on, was used to ban segregation where government action was involved.
Now that couldn't touch private business because the principle of individual freedom of association had been sacred in our Constitution for all of U.S.
history.
So in order for the government to force private individuals and businesses to do what it wanted them to do, it had to come up with something new.
And that's where the Civil Rights Act came in.
But the only authority that Congress could claim to have in passing it was the Commerce Clause, which gives Congress power to make laws that regulate interstate commerce.
But that is a bastardization of the Commerce Clause, because under this new false interpretation of that clause, commerce, in a circular logic of unlimited power, came to be defined as anything that Congress said it did.
So by that logic, Congress had the authority to do Anything, because at ever increasing levels of abstraction, everything can be said to affect the economy.
Yes, as I recall, there was a famous case at that time having to do with, I believe it was a little restaurant or cafe in one of the southern states called Ollie's Barbecue.
And Ali's Barbecue, they took the view that, well, wait a minute.
This has nothing to do with interstate commerce.
It's our decision to restrict our clientele to the people of our choice.
But they said, no, no, no.
Ali's Barbecue is part of interstate commerce because you serve pickles that have crossed the border into your state.
It was as artificial as that, just a spectacular misreading of the Commerce Clause.
But as the great Joe Sobern used to say, the Commerce Clause has expanded to the point where it's devoured the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment, which restricts the powers not granted to the federal government to the states, has just been shriveled up into absolute nothingness.
But, yes, the idea that somehow interstate commerce required that we give up our right of freedom of association was one of those just head-spinning misinterpretations of the Constitution, of which there are so many these days.
Right.
Misinterpretation, I think, doesn't even get to the bottom of it, because it's not unintentional.
They're not approaching the Constitution and analyzing it in good faith.
They're looking for any kind of openings and loopholes that they can twist to their advantage.
And so, you know, when leftists refer to the Constitution as a living document, this is what they mean.
And conservatives, I think, have been greatly hampered in the philosophy of originalism, because we are constrained by self-imposed limits that the left Well, this gives me another opportunity to quote Joe Soberan.
He said, when liberals talk about the Constitution as a living document, it's their excuse to treat it as a dead letter.
And that, of course, is exactly what they're doing.
They can just ignore whatever is plainly written in it.
And another aspect of it, of course, is that they can use the Constitution to take plain language in legislation.
For example, this 64 Civil Rights Act that says you may not discriminate on the basis of race, and then use that very law that forbids discrimination to justify and to legalize discrimination against whites.
So, yes, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea that you will be a lawyer at some point, so that you can make some of these points.
Also, I would say that your understanding of these things is probably vastly superior to that of most of the people with whom you will be debating in your campaign.
So that if you ever have any speaking engagements or if you're ever debating anyone, they will be surprised by your knowledge of these things, which is vastly superior to theirs.
Well, yes, that's because white advocates and conservatives in general, I don't really call myself a conservative, but you know what I mean, people on the right, we have to constantly Defend ourselves.
We have to constantly own our arguments.
Leftists, everything that they say and believe is taken as universal truth.
They're taken as givens.
So they never have to defend themselves.
They can say whatever they want unchallenged.
That's right.
I sometimes feel sorry for the people that I'm debating because, as you say, they have never really had to defend their arguments.
Because everyone that they talk to, everything they read, just takes it all for granted.
So they don't have any practice in explaining why, what fundamentally are the bases for the things that they say.
And so I suspect that most of the time you'll find them in exactly the same position.
You have had to build up and establish your view of the world based on facts, based on history, based on your understanding of biology and human nature, whereas these people, they have just floated into opinions because they are popular and because everyone else around them says so.
So this gives us a tremendous advantage.
Yes, absolutely.
It does, and that's why there's so much censorship.
That's why they try to shut us down, because each attack on us is the regime acknowledging that if there were a level playing field, if it were a fair fight, we would win every time, regardless, in a landslide.
Yes, as I often say, if what we say is so obviously wrong, then any fourth grader should be able to successfully refute us.
What's so dangerous about letting us speak what we have to say if we're so obviously wrong?
But of course, we aren't obviously wrong.
And college graduates and even college professors have a very difficult time explaining why we're wrong.
And so instead of doing that, they have to shut us up.
And I gather that is what the Republican Party has decided to do with you, despite the fact that you are running in the Republican primary.
Yes, yes.
So I've, I've been banned from both of the biggest Republican political fundraising platforms, Anadot and Winrad.
I'm banned from, you know, Big tech platforms.
I've even been banned from my old barbershop.
I was thrown off stage at a GOP Lincoln Day dinner, and I am proudly disavowed as a racist, sexist bigot by the Republican Party of Arkansas, making me only the third candidate in U.S.
history to be denounced by a state GOP during a contested primary.
And from day one, the party and various operatives have been running a coordinated smear campaign against me with grassroots activists, you know, calling me a racist, etc.
And so this really belies what the Republican Party is all about.
It's animating principles.
It's ashamed of its white voters.
It's ashamed that it is the implicit party of white interests.
And it will do anything that it can to prevent whites from having political representation in this country.
Yes, it's extraordinary.
I understand that according to the official statement of the Republican Party of Arkansas, they will not endorse or defend racist, bigoted, sexist, or threatening language by any candidate.
Now, I suppose it would be easy enough for them to somehow justify the word racist, although that's essentially a meaningless word, and bigoted, those are both meaningless words, but sexist or threatening?
In what sense are you thought to be sexist or threatening?
Who are you threatening and why sexist?
I'm honestly not sure where the word sexist came from.
I'm not sure what they're referring to.
I suppose because I'm, you know, pro-traditional marriage and pro-family, that makes me a sexist.
But I'm really not sure where they got that from.
As far as threatening language, I am a threat.
I'm a threat to them and their anti-white America last establishment.
And I'm the only candidate In this country that represents a real threat to them and that's why I'm the most persecuted candidate for national office in the 2022 midterms.
Now you know I should be on Tucker Carlson, I should be on Revolver, all the major conservative outlets, Breitbart, but I'm not.
Why the persecution?
Why the media silence?
Because I'm outspoken in my defense of white interest and white identity.
because I'm the only candidate openly advocating on behalf of whites and because I dare to
expose the GOP's disdain for its almost entirely white base.
Yes, I should have thought to myself that when they string together words like racist,
bigoted, sexist, threatening, they make it sound as though you're some sort of physical
threat as if you're going to go around beating people or opening fire on, I don't know, mosques
or whatever it is.
But yes, you are a tremendous threat to them simply because of what you say, not because you are in, by any stretch of the imagination, someone who is physically threatening.
Yeah, yeah, they make it sound like I'm gonna bring a gun to the RNC meeting, right?
It's absurd.
And last week, the Anti-Defamation League honored me with a coveted endorsement by including me on its list of the most extremist candidates in America.
Because I attended the Ameren Conference this year and had my photo with you and with Peter, And because I've written for Amber to be there, I'm a, quote, racist white supremacist.
And of course, the absurdity of calling a mixed race individual like myself a white supremacist is lost on these intellectually challenged midgets.
And this week, The Guardian gave me top billing in my very own paragraph in its report on the ADL report, calling me one of the most dangerous far-right candidates in America.
Dangerous!
Dangerous!
Boy, oh boy.
You know, I always get a kick out of it when our opponents call any of us dangerous, because that's a way of saying that they really can't refute us.
And they just call us dangerous because we are such a threat to this enormous cathedral of crazy ideas that they've built up over the years.
But by calling us dangerous, it seems to be their justification for trying to silence us.
So congratulations on being dangerous.
I mean, if you weren't dangerous, then you wouldn't be doing your job.
Right, exactly.
I mean, these are, I call these coveted endorsements.
I'm sort of joking, but I'm also serious, because these are endorsements, because, you know, you can know a man best by his enemies, and the fact that all the right ghouls are after me, trying to silence me, is proof that I really am a threat to them, and it's proof that I'm not like them, that I'm not a part of their Their club?
No, you're certainly not part of their cozy little club.
And if we have our way, then their cozy little club will cease to be quite as cozy as it once was, and they will find themselves in the minority rather than breathing the air of the zeitgeist.
But given all this opposition against your candidacy, what ways are you finding to get your message out?
Yeah, so the biggest One of the biggest issues on the local level is local media will not cover me.
Just for one example, I spoke at a rally for medical freedom at the State Capitol in Little Rock back in September, and there were some state legislators who spoke before me, and there's a microphone bank at the podium, and there's new cameras in the crowd.
Well, the moment that I stepped foot on stage, They came up very conspicuously, took down their microphones, shut down their cameras, and left.
So, I mean, people can see very clearly that there's an organized conspiracy of silence.
So basically, what I have to do is take my message directly to the people as much as I can.
So, you know, what I do now is primarily meet and greets.
So you have a supporter in a certain area and they'll bring You know, sometimes it's five people, sometimes it's 50 people, and you speak to them, and then from that meet and greet, you set up three or four more, and it's like an avalanche.
And so, grassroots campaigning is really the only way forward for me at this time, because, you know, I'm financially constrained as well.
My opponent has, you know, two million dollars in the bank, and I can't compete with that.
I will do a big ad blitz as we get closer to the election date, but for now it's just
as much face-to-face real campaigning as possible.
I guess that's what they used to call retail campaigning, face-to-face.
And it's great that you have supporters who then get you in touch with more supporters, who then find more supporters.
I hope that works brilliantly for you.
Yeah, I think it has been and I think it will continue to be because anytime that I get in front of a crowd, they like what I have to say because you can call me far right, you can call me an extremist, whatever, but my opinions are where the base of the party is.
There is a sea change underway on the American right.
When I talk about anti-white hate and discrimination and the genocidal rhetoric, You know, I talk about white genocide, and people understand, people agree, because they know that it's happening, they see that it's happening, and they just don't feel like they're allowed to discuss it, to talk about it.
And so, when they see someone openly campaigning on these issues, they feel freer to talk about it.
Well, this is an example of The great Sam Francis's law, which was that the leadership and the public face of any organization is far closer towards the center than the actual membership of the grassroots.
That's certainly the case with the Republicans.
It's as you say, if you have an opportunity to speak to voters directly, they will respond very positively to you.
Whereas the leadership feels it's got to run screaming from the room.
Right, and part of the reason why this is so is apathy.
There's a natural tendency for so-called conservatives to be more introspective, right?
We worry about our families, providing for our families, working.
We're not trying to control people.
Leftists, on the other hand, are waging a war of supremacy.
They're already engaged in a civil war and they're the only ones fighting.
And so, good, decent patriots, which far outnumbered the bad guys, still.
They are just, they're cowed by smears because they see what happens when good people stand up.
You know, they see what's been happening to me and others.
And so they just don't want to get involved.
And so the people who end up getting involved at the party level are incompetent and malicious cretins.
And so that's really the issue.
Tell me a little bit about your opponent.
His name is Steve Womack.
Yes sir, I call him Deep State Steve.
He is the definition of a corporate whore.
You can name any evil special interest in this country and they support him.
So you know, Walmart is headquartered here in Bentonville, Arkansas.
It's my hometown.
And so the Walton family is, as you know, one of the wealthiest on earth.
And so they control a lot of the politics in our state.
Responsible for a lot of the outsourcing and offshoring of our labor to China.
So the defense industry is a huge contributor to Representative Womack.
So he's been involved now in pushing this terrible war with Russia that they're trying to start.
He voted to certify the fraudulent 2020 election.
He voted with Nancy Pelosi to create her sham January 6th.
Commission, which is just a star chamber whose animating purpose is the legitimization of the insurrection narrative, which is the justification of treating Trump supporters and other political dissidents like ourselves as enemy combatants.
He's turned a blind eye to the treatment of the January 6th political prisoners.
He voted for the National Defense Authorization Act, which at the time he voted on it, included provisions for red flag gun confiscation and forcing women to register for the draft.
He took Pfizer blood money, and four days later began promoting the COVID-19
injections. He voted to create a national database tracking private vaccination status. Most
recently, and I think very damningly, he signed a letter begging the Biden administration to
reverse President Trump's tariffs on China.
And these Section 301 tariffs were imposed after decades of greedy, rootless D.C.
insiders selling the American worker down the river to China, during the course of which millions of American jobs were outsourced and offshored to China, the American manufacturing sector wholly eviscerated, resulting in the death of hundreds of communities, fueling the opioid crisis and other deaths of despair.
So, yeah, I mean, this guy...
Clearly does not represent anyone in this country.
He represents foreign and corporate interests.
Sounds like a perfectly typical Republican.
Yes.
Very much so.
Now, the primary election is May 24th.
Yes, sir.
May 24th.
Well, I hope that by then you'll have been able to at least get a lot of people lined up behind your message.
Do you have any of the conventional things like yard signs?
Are you doing mailing flyers?
You say that right before the election you're going to buy some advertising.
Yeah, I'll do.
TV and radio advertising probably a month out.
It's all around what your budget is.
And so right now my budget will support like a month out.
Until then, yeah, I'm doing direct mail.
I'm doing meet and greets.
I have bumper stickers.
Not doing that many yard signs because it's not very cost effective.
I mean, it's a way for people to act like they're supporting you without really supporting you.
Like, it's a low-effort thing that just—it cost me money to make the sign, so not much of that.
But, yeah, it's—I mean, really, it's very simple, old-fashioned, just door-to-door and face-to-face.
And I think that that's—I mean, that's really—for candidates like myself, for grassroots candidates, especially, you know, Pro-white patriots, grassroots local activism is really the best path forward.
Can you tell me why you decided to run for Congress rather than, say, starting with the Statehouse?
The Statehouse, the district would be smaller, fewer people to have to convince, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
So, I still maintain that you can have more of an impact on people's lives in your community.
if you run for local and state office.
That's always been true and that will continue to be true.
That said, I'm running for national office because my voice is needed at the national
You look at what the squad has done on the left, right?
These four or five individuals have really changed the discourse on the left and really throughout the national media.
So just imagine one person like myself on the floor of Congress talking about white interest, white advocacy, talking about the issues that I talk about.
That would change the global conversation.
It would make national headlines.
It would push the Overton window.
It brings white advocacy into the mainstream.
Oh, go ahead.
No, no question.
It would be a remarkable thing.
There's nobody in Congress that really takes our side.
And if you were to steam into Washington, D.C., stating the things that you're saying so clearly and so convincingly, it would be more than national headlines.
It would be nonstop national headlines.
No, it would be an absolutely remarkable thing.
Of course, if you win in the primary, then you have to face a Democrat.
Yes, he is.
This is a Trump plus 40 district.
This is a heavily red district.
So Womack guy is the incumbent, I gather.
Yes, he is.
This is a Trump plus 40 district.
This is a heavily red district.
It's not going to go blue at any point in the next probably 15 or 20 years.
And so if I win the primary, I'm almost guaranteed to win the general.
No Democrat has ever pulled more than like 30% of the vote here in a general.
So the Democrats really a non-factor.
So this is the only only race that really matters.
Yes, exactly.
And it's the toughest because this guy, you know, he's been he's been in Congress for
six terms.
So that's 12 years.
And what does he have to show for it?
The destruction of our nation, right?
He's got nothing to show for it.
And yet, he's got the name recognition.
He's got the party machinery.
He's got the corporate money.
So it's a David and Goliath battle.
But that said, all of his advantages are top-down.
Mine are organic.
I'm where the base is.
My only task is effectively getting my message out to enough people.
Because when people hear my message, they support me.
So it's really just incumbent upon me to reach as many people directly as I can.
I understand that according to federal law, if you are a candidate for federal office, Radio stations have to accept your political messages, and they have to offer you quite inexpensive rates.
Is that the case?
I believe it is the case.
I haven't started radio advertising yet, so I'm not Positive on the specifics, but as far as I know, that is the law.
But, you know, the people making the laws are not enforcing them.
So, I mean, for example, the GOP is not supposed to interfere in a contested primary.
They're supposed to be neutral.
And yet, from day one, they've done everything they can to suppress my campaign.
So, well, I'll give you another example.
There's a group called the Ozark Patriots down in Baxter County.
And they've just simply tried to join a local county GOP, and then we'll let them join.
And that's against the rules, but the person who sits on the rules committee in Little Rock is the person who wouldn't let them in.
So, I mean, these people are, they make up the rules as they go and selectively enforce them.
Well, I think the law is pretty clear on this.
If you're a candidate for Congress, they have to accept your campaign message.
And I should think that you could put together quite a provocative one just in 20 seconds.
So I would urge you to look into that as the election date approaches.
I suspect that you could get a lot of attention.
And I would think also that this kind of campaign, win or lose, it's very important because you do get an opportunity to put your message out, not in the kind of mass audience way that you might wish to.
But that is an important aspect of it.
And I believe that radio advertising would be one way to do that.
So I hope you will look into that before May 24th.
Yes, I'm going to.
We're going to do radio and TV.
And just like you said, yeah, I do want to win.
That is my goal, obviously.
But the ultimate goal is to have a successful campaign.
And how I define success is, just like you said, mainstreaming these issues, mainstreaming these ideas, showing people, showing other potential candidates, showing currently elected officials, and just showing You know, normal citizens, that it's okay to defend wide interests openly.
That it's okay to run on these issues and talk about them.
And I think the more people you see doing what I'm doing, the better chance of success we have for taking our country back.
Because people are starting to completely disconnect from the political process.
And we know what the alternative to politics is.
And we don't want to go there.
It's not pretty.
We don't want that.
No, no, not at all.
But what you're doing, I think, is absolutely marvelous.
I think it can be an excellent example for people around the country.
And whether it is for Congress or for the State House or even for school board, city council, all of these positions can be not only ways to get our hands on levers of power that can make life different and better, but also it's a kind of pulpit and a podium So, all of these efforts, I think, are wonderful, and I believe the time has definitely come for a breakthrough of the kind that you might just be able to engineer.
Now, I gather that you have a forthcoming event in South Carolina.
Could you tell us about that?
Yes, sir.
So, just like you mentioned, America is ready for white identity politics.
We can achieve, at the local level, success, and I'm trying to Do this at the national level, which is a little more difficult, but just imagine if a small community of us physically relocated to one place and there you go, we have our own Orania, right?
Think about that.
So, CounterCurrents is sponsoring a new conference called Nationalism On the ballot.
And this is a mirror image of the ADL's extremism on the ballot report that I was featured in.
So this conference is we're going to herald the creation of a new think tank policy institute around promoting white identity politics.
And it's going to be in Charleston, South Carolina on April 2nd.
The currently announced speakers are myself and James Edwards of the political cesspool.
And we'll have more speakers Coming soon, and if you'd like to attend, then you can email cyan, C-Y-A-N, at counteroccurrence.com to begin the vetting process.
But we're very excited about this because there just aren't that many in real life physical gatherings.
We have the Emrin Conference and that's about it, so we need more opportunities for dissidents to meet face-to-face.
to face, to begin to build these parallel societies, these parallel structures.
Could you give us that email address again, for people who are interested in attending, and repeat the date for us, please?
Yes, April 2nd, in Charleston, South Carolina, cyan, C-Y-A-N, at counter-currents.com.
And you can also find that on my social media.
Well, great.
And once again, could you let our listeners know how they can find out more about you?
Yes, of course.
My campaign website is NeilForArkansas.com and my social media on Gab is NeilForArkansas.
Well, I think, again, what you're doing is exactly what racially conscious white people need to start doing, and that is jumping into the political game.
I think a lot of our people are fed up with politics, but I have a distinct sense that the electorate is changing.
There is a sea change due to the fact that the other side, the left, has taken such extreme positions that it's become easier and easier for us to simply point out what they're doing and sound profoundly reasonable.
So, is there anything else that you would like to say to our listeners?
Yeah, so we know what happened with the last election.
And we know that most, if not all, currently elected Republicans do not deserve our support.
We know that they don't look out for white interests.
In fact, they actively denigrate white interests.
But at the same time, don't give in to this demoralization tactic.
They want you to be demoralized.
They want you to disconnect from the political process.
Yes, they can.
Steal elections.
They can't commit fraud.
But they can't steal every election.
And that's no reason, even if they could, that's no reason to stop participating.
Because the more of us that get out there on the street, that show up to our local county GOP committees, the more of us that make ourselves loud, that make ourselves heard, the harder it is for them to ignore us.
Apathy is how we got here.
You know, don't give up.
Don't listen to the smears.
No one cares what they say.
When everyone's a racist, no one's a racist.
These are meaningless terms.
So if you want to support white identity, if you want to support white identity politics, please consider supporting my campaign.
I am the only candidate for national office that is openly running as a white.
If I have success, whether I win or lose, this is a beacon for thousands of other potential candidates to look to and say, you know what, I can do that too.
Well, thank you very much for being a guest.
Delighted to have had you on the program.
And perhaps we will look forward to interviewing you again when you become Congressman Kumar.
So thanks so much.
Yes, sir.
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