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Jan. 8, 2021 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Interracial Crime: Denial, Deceit, and Delusion
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Hello, I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance.
It's my pleasure to have in the studio Colin Flaherty.
Mr. Flaherty is without a doubt the world's best-connected, best-informed expert on the subject of black crime in the United States.
He's done podcasts, videos.
In fact, he's done about 130 million views of videos on the subject of black crime and how it is suppressed.
That's way, way more than our channel has ever had, so he's kind of slumming to be here in the studio with us today, and we're particularly grateful for that.
He's also written at least two books on the subject of black crime, White Girl, Bleed a Lot and Don't Make the Black Kids Angry.
Well, Mr. Flaherty has actually written in a number of real prestige papers, New York Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post, and many, many other publications.
And so it is a particular pleasure to invite Mr. Flaherty in with us today.
Thanks so much for joining us.
It's an honor to be here, Mr. Taylor.
Oh, it's our pleasure.
Is there anything in my introduction that I left out that I should have added?
Anything that you'd like our viewers to be aware of?
No, if anything, no, it's probably too kind, but I do document black crime and violence.
That's half of it.
And the other half, of course, is the denial, deceit, and delusion that has just wrapped this thing in a cocoon so that every...
A lot of people just don't even know what's going on with it.
Yes, that really is a problem.
All of our media rulers, they think these are things we should not know about.
And so that gives me a particular idea, frankly.
I'm imagining you must have had a different career at the time when you were writing for the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Boston Globe.
What sort of subjects did you cover there?
I'm sure it was not black-on-white crime.
Well, you know...
The biggest story I ever wrote when I was, my byline has appeared in all those places, but the biggest story I ever wrote, the biggest impact when I was a reporter in San Diego, it was about a guy named Kelvin Wiley.
Kelvin Wiley is a black guy who was accused of trying to kill his white girlfriend.
He was in prison.
He was convicted, sent to prison for that.
I wrote a story.
It took a long time to write.
I wrote a story that showed he was unjustly convicted, unjustly accused.
Got him out of the slammer.
So I was a big hero on NPR, the LA Times.
I was on court TV.
I was like a hero.
Not so much anymore.
I see, I see.
So when you were proving that a black accused criminal was in fact innocent, you were a big hero.
Well now, not only are you not a big hero, you are the subject of deplatforming, of calumny.
Really, you lost your YouTube channel.
You've really been pushed.
Tell me something about that, the kinds of obstacles you've had to face and how you've overcome them, because I think you've done a remarkable job.
Well, you know, so I've gone through the same obstacles that everybody else has gone through, right?
You lose this, you lose that.
But all the while, I'm always telling, my audience is always saying, we're going to go where you go.
So I find places, I post videos at Minds.com.
I tell other people, post my videos.
The people are posting my videos on YouTube every day, Facebook, Twitter.
They send them out, bitch shoot.
So it's like, let a thousand flowers bloom.
I don't have any ownership of my videos once I make them.
It's just...
Let them go.
So they're all over the place.
Well, that's really the point, isn't it?
We are in this because we believe this information has to get out.
And even if you, in effect, lose ownership of your videos, the fact that they are seen, that's what matters.
They're seen.
I get a lot of support from them.
A lot of people find me through them.
So there's a lot of ways to skin the cat, to coin phrases.
Well, also, you have a lot of informants all around the country, do you not?
They let you know when there's some sort of particularly heinous crime that the mainstream media does not report, or maybe in the local media doesn't much report it.
But you find out about it.
I think it's remarkable, the stuff that you dig up.
If I could find a way to do a video on, you know, the thousands of emails I get every day from people all over the country, a lot of cops, a lot of citizens, a lot of people just like something happened in their neighborhood and somebody goes, hey, this lady said I should tell you about it.
So a lot of cops.
And the universal reaction I get from people who discover my channel, especially law enforcement people.
I read one of these on my podcast the other day.
The universal reaction is not, Colin!
You're smarter than Mr. Jared Taylor.
No, nobody's saying that.
What they're saying is, you're good at just stating the obvious plainly, transparently.
And we're, you know, so the reaction is relief that somebody like you is out there just talking about this.
Oh, I think it's hugely important.
People in a vague sort of way, they know that...
Not only is black crime a problem, but blacks targeting whites is a problem.
But nobody in the mainstream wants to talk about it.
And I'm impressed by the number of police officers you have that come and talk to you about it.
Because they're the people who know it best.
I'm very frustrated by the fact that police officers who are in the black community, so to speak, every day, every day, every day, see it as part of their job.
They almost never get interviewed.
Almost never.
On police officer interview, it's some sort of big chief-level fellow who's got to be politically correct.
One of the few exceptions to that is that the black police chief in Milwaukee, he will tell it like it is because he's black.
He's got protective coloring.
But the people who are on the street, the flat feet, covering the beat every day, I'm delighted that at least they have the outlet of talking to you.
It must be a huge relief for them.
Cops on the beat are heroes.
Cops who run the departments are not.
Cops on the beat are heroes.
I mean, you know, they like what I'm saying because I'm saying like what they tell their families.
You know, you don't see cops.
You know, if a cop's mom is not going to move into a black and white, he's not going to move into a gentrified neighborhood.
He'll go down there and, you know, burn the house down before he lets his mom, his sister or brother or kids move in there.
The cops are really concerned that you and I and everybody else, we don't really know how serious this is and the level of black hostility directed at white people.
I think you're all over this, but white people in this country, we're also concerned about our level of racism.
Is there one little spark of racism in me?
If there is, give me your phone.
I'm dialing 911.
Fellas, which is what I call black people, the fellas and lovely ladies are not having that discussion.
They're not really into us.
They don't like us.
They don't care who knows it.
They don't look over their shoulder.
They don't apologize for generalizing, stereotyping, wishing us ill.
I don't even know why I have to say this.
It's so obvious.
We see it every day.
We see it every day.
And the astonishing thing is that so many white people, so-called liberals, they don't see it.
There's a kind of deliberate blindness.
Well, what about the Democratic debate the other night?
I mean, one of the reporters served up a softball question.
Every single one went down, raising the ante on how much they believed in the evilness of white supremacy and how we got to do all these things to counteract these evil white people.
I mean...
I don't understand that.
I know.
It's as if they're competing to be more self-hating than the rest.
Oh my, my favorite repulsive white man's got to be Beto O'Rourke.
That guy can't get enough of telling us how awful he is.
In fact, in this last debate, he was talking about how the United States, our founding should start with 1619 when the first black slaves were brought over here.
Not July 4th, you know, that was sort of a minor detail compared to the first black man coming off a boat.
But that guy, if he really does believe that there's white privilege, that we have to make all of these efforts to help non-whites, why is he even running?
There's a black woman who's a candidate.
He's trying to elbow her off the stage.
Come on, be consistent.
If he thinks being a white man is such an awful thing, he should step down and let somebody superior to him racially and in terms of sex take the lead.
I've never heard anybody give a satisfactory answer to that question.
No, they just wallow in their alleged self-flagellation and then do nothing about it.
Racial quotas,"The, not for me." That's right.
No, I've never ever heard one of these promoters of diversity say,"And as a proponent of this and a practitioner of racial diversity, what I'm going to do is I'm going to step down." And make sure that someone who is one of the preferred pets takes my place.
One of the 11 groups.
There are 11. You go on all the time, probably.
But anyway, as far as this unwillingness of white people to speak frankly about the facts that are staring us in the face, black crime, why is it that, for example, There was this terrible video that came out in Minnesota,
this poor black guy who was assaulted by a gang of about a dozen black people.
It must have spent two or three minutes just pounding him, riding a bicycle.
It was a white guy that was a victim of that.
Yes, a white guy who was a victim of maybe a dozen blacks.
Attacked this white, just out of the blue.
Now, as you pointed out...
How come CNN didn't show you that video?
How come the only place you could find that video is some obscure little marginal places?
Whereas, as we know, if a gang of white people had treated a black guy that way, CNN would...
As you say, come knocking on your door to make sure you saw that video.
You know, it's funny.
What's the difference?
It doesn't have to rise to that level.
Like just last year, a white guy cussed a black guy out in a college dormitory in UCLA.
3,000 miles away.
I'm reading about it in the paper.
That's right.
Let alone...
There's violence or anything.
Or if somebody innocently decides that he wants to go to a party looking like Barack Obama or Michael Manley, the former Prime Minister of Jamaica, and blacks up, oh my gosh, that's coast-to-coast news.
But why are white people, at least the white media elite, why are they so determined to hide this stuff?
What's your view on that?
Well, here's the thing.
So that's like the main question, right?
It is.
And so I don't have a good answer for that.
But what I do is I document how it happens over and over and over again.
I document it.
I just don't say it, right?
We show it.
There's an enormous difference between what they say on a TV video report and what really happened.
But what I try to tell people on my podcast and my videos is don't get stymied because you can't figure out why it's happening.
A lot of people go up to the why and they stop.
And they go, I can't figure this out.
Come on, I'm going away.
No, no, no.
It's happening.
You don't have to.
Why do we have?
You didn't do it.
I don't have to explain it.
I didn't do it.
Let them explain it.
Why do we have to explain it?
By the way, explanations, they're usually deflections.
Especially in my territory, because I'm talking about black crime, violence, wildly out of proportion, right?
Nobody wants to talk about that.
They'll do anything to get me off the topic.
Well, Colin, why do you think that is?
What's the cause?
What's the solution?
Colin, in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
What do you think about that?
No, no.
Those are deflections.
Well, people, first of all, don't want to talk about it because, I think, they want Americans all to think that race relations and racism and oppression all go strictly one way.
From people who look like you and me, we're the worst of all.
Heterosexual white men.
And we are older ones.
We're not woke.
We're not Gen Z. We're not with the current year.
We're the worst people in the history of the world.
It's peaking now, isn't it?
What's that?
It's peaking now, isn't it?
It just seems to keep going up and up and up.
Yeah. I think it's going to continue to peak for quite some time before it deflects down.
But I think the idea is, because American Orthodoxy, is that racism comes from people like you and me.
Whether we do it deliberately or not, we just emanate this aura of hatred and oppression.
We can't help but breathe oppression and racism.
And so the idea is it all goes one way.
We are the origin.
Other people are victims.
So you just suppress anything that looks anything different.
And what happens is these editors slant the news, and then they believe what they read in the newspaper.
Or they slant the video, and then they believe what they see on the TV screen.
It's a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of, what do you call it?
Deceit, delusion, and denial.
And I have deceit and delusion.
The other day, Gail King, Oprah's best friend, she's like a big dog on the CBS morning news, right?
So she pronounced, just apropos of nothing, she pronounced, quote, Most people believe that black people cannot be racist.
When in fact, you know, if we would just take a minute to stop examining our own supposed racism and we would turn it the other way and say, isn't there a lot of black and white hostility in this country?
Oh yeah, there's an enormous amount.
And people who ignore that, pardon me for pointing, Mr. Taylor, people who ignore that, they often place themselves and their families in big danger.
Well, what was the point she was making?
She was saying that there are, in fact, black people who can be racist?
No, no, no.
Or she was saying it's just not possible.
Yeah, she had a guest on that was basically saying, among other things, he said, to the extent that you deny that you are a white racist, that is the extent that we know that you are a white racist.
Okay. But, you know, as I understand it from these black activists, even these so-called white...
And they seem to have just the deepest contempt for white allies.
The white allies who say,"Oh, we're so bad.
We're so privileged.
We're so racist.
We're trying to do the best we can." They're racist.
We're all racist.
We can't help being racist.
We were born racist.
We'll die racist.
As I say, every breath we breathe in and out is pure racism.
And then of course they define racism as something of which...
Blacks cannot be guilty.
And so, you know, the way I like to think of it is, you know, say I take the wrong turn off on the freeway and I end up in a dusky neighborhood and somebody says, you white F, what are you doing here?
And I'm raced and I'm tracked down and I'm beaten to death.
And as the last drop of blood is flowing out of my knife-slit veins, I can say to myself, thank God, at least it wasn't racism.
Whatever it was, it wasn't racism.
You know, this whole idea of white people, especially affluent liberal white people, being suckers for this white racism, black victimization narrative.
I mean, Thomas Wolfe, he was all over it in the 80s, right?
With the bonfire of the vanities, mow mowing the flat catchers.
So it's amazing.
We've got this stuff out there.
I don't know why people keep falling for it, though.
Well, that is a great question.
And of course, I think that is why the media elites, It's like any business.
They don't want competition.
They don't want you telling people things that they deliberately don't want them to know.
They don't want me telling things they don't want them to know.
And that is why they are working so hard to keep us quiet.
Keep us quiet.
Because they can't bear the competition.
This whole idea of a marketplace of ideas, you know, I say one thing, and then if I'm wrong, somebody else will come up and refute me.
No, no, no.
They don't even want to hear one peep out of us.
Because it is, to me, the most obvious admission that if there's a level playing field, if there's a marketplace of ideas, we sell and they don't.
You know, Google and YouTube, of course, give black filmmakers tens of millions of dollars every year to make movies about black victimization and white racism.
So you and I sit here and make videos, and all we do is raise our hand and go, no, I don't agree with that for the following reasons, bing, bam, boom, and I'm gone!
That's right.
And it's weird how that works.
I mean, what are they afraid of?
Exactly. What are they afraid of?
If you're wrong, if I'm wrong, how long would it take to prove it?
It'll take five minutes to prove you wrong.
It'll take one minute to prove I'm wrong.
Theoretically, we are so spectacularly wrong that anybody who's been through kindergarten and got the right ideas can explain to us that we're wrong.
You know, the funny thing is, I used to, back in the old days, see, I had a respectable career too.
My books used to be.
Reviewed in places like the Wall Street Journal, the Boston Globe.
I used to be a real person.
In fact, I was not banned from any country for travel if I'd wanted to.
Back in those days, I could have had a Twitter account.
Of course, Twitter hadn't been invented yet.
But I was a respectable person.
I was invited to speak at universities.
And all that somehow glimmered away when I started saying the wrong things.
One thing that is remarkable is just how, as you say, how determined they are to shut us up.
And when I would go to universities and speak to audiences, I found the best place to go were the very best schools, smart kids.
Smart kids are at least prepared to think about what you're saying.
But when I went to a couple of junior colleges, I might as well have been speaking in the midst of a typhoon.
Those people are incapable of thinking in anything but slogans.
And after I would go into a detailed explanation of, you know, maybe race differences in IQ or something like that, somebody would get up and accuse me of, that is so ignorant!
Ignorant? I've been studying this stuff for...
Twenty years.
And you, you've probably never read a book on this.
You've never read an article.
You've never done anything but thinking slogans.
You're accusing me of ignorance.
Well, to quote the great stuff on Molyneux, that's not an argument.
Calling you a name.
No. Ignorant.
But see, this is something that the other side's been very successful at doing, is associating a realistic understanding of what's going on in the world with ignorance.
It's called ignorance when you know more than you're supposed to.
This is one of the great contradictions of our time.
At least in the stuff I do, I try not to acknowledge the people that are trying to bring us down with ignorance.
I just kind of ignore them unless I expose them once in a while.
But I really, my thing is, I want them to worry about what I'm up to right now instead of the other way around.
Well, I think what you do is very admirable.
You have got a particular niche.
A very important niche.
You have established this whole network of connections, which means that you get information all in one place that nobody else has.
This is a very important service.
And it's just as well that you don't get diverted into this, that, and the other.
I think it's just great that you are concentrated in this way and provide information that nobody else can find.
But these days, you do videos, you do podcasts.
Where are the best places to go looking?
For your material.
I mean, if I just do a search, Colin Flaherty, will I find all of these outlets for you?
Yeah, easy to find.
Minds.com slash Colin Flaherty.
Twitter, articles, books, the whole thing.
Easy to find.
Great. Podcasts everywhere except iTunes, of course.
So all the suppliers other than iTunes have left you on.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I wouldn't say that, but yeah.
At least a few.
Yeah. But here's the thing, and I'm sure you're finding out the same thing.
Our audiences, your audience and my audience have the same attachment to our work.
They know what we're going through.
They know that they have to keep us in business or else we're going to go away.
And I don't think they want that.
Have you been able to raise money in this process?
Yeah. You know, again, it's the audience doing it.
I remember one of my first videos, somebody said, Colin, what's your Patreon account?
So what the hell is a Patreon account?
Of course, you know, a year later I was kicked off Patreon.
Patreon is where...
But so now, you know, once every week I'll just go, hey, drop a few shekels in my cup, people.
I mean, that's how you're going to encourage me to do this.
And people are very generous.
And even some people just watch a video and they go, oh, that's worth a buck.
It's worth five bucks.
So maybe some people are a little more successful.
They're a little more able to do more.
Well, you know, I guess it's this sort of this WASP reserve that some of us have.
I've always thought that asking for money is kind of like rattling a tin cup.
But it is true.
If you ask people to help, they're happy to help for the most part.
It's really very gratifying.
I find that people want to be a part of what you do, what I do.
And that's one, I mean, a lot of people, like the people I brought down here today.
We got True to Roof.
We got a guy named Dallas.
Everybody has surnames, right?
And everybody wants to do something, but everybody, as you know, everybody's limited.
Maybe somebody works in a cubicle.
Maybe they're a cop, EMT.
So if you can't do, do what you can.
But if you want to do more, support people like you, support people like me.
I mean, that's how it's going to happen.
Nobody's going to put, nobody's going to tap, sorry to interrupt.
Nobody's going to tap you on your shoulder and go, Mr. Taylor, HR wants to talk to you.
No, it's going to be, tap you on your shoulder, the commissar wants to talk to you.
I can see that one.
Red flagged.
We're taking your cameras.
That's right.
Well, yes, I think that is an important message on which to conclude.
Unless you have anything in particular that you'd like our viewers and listeners to know about?
Anything you'd particularly like to have?
No, I'm happy to be here.
Again, I'm going to really document the violence.
Really document it in a way where it cannot be denied.
Anybody watching my stuff, they have to walk away going, there's something really wrong in this country and nobody's paying it.
People are trying to deny it's happening.
It's not like the moon landing.
It's not hokeyed up, right?
No, it's just like, I'm not really asking people to believe me.
I'm just asking people, watch that video.
Well, but that's the point.
You give them no choice but to accept that this happened.
That's hugely important.
Yes. Just like two days ago.
No, we got to go.
Two days ago, streets in New York.
Five cops put in the hospital.
Right. Took me three days.
I mean, I kind of have my suspicions.
Took three days to get a video of it.
Large group of black people beat the crap out of those cops.
Up in Baltimore, 120 cops in the hospital in the last riot.
120 cops.
That has no meaning.
We're not supposed to be interested.
As the police are supposed to be saying, move along, nothing to see here.
That's an enormous meaning.
We're doing this in the Washington, D.C. area.
Enormous amount of stuff going on in D.C. And nowhere outside of D.C. are people more determined to pretend it's not happening.
And this, of course, is the work that you and I have to make sure that people, no matter how determined they are to pretend it's not happening, know that it for sure is.
Once they see it and hear what we do.
Cannot be unseen.
Well, that is true.
Once the scales fall from people's eyes, it's very, very hard to pace them back.
And so, thank you very much, all of you viewers.
Appreciate your time, appreciate your attention.
And as Mr. Flaherty pointed out, there are many ways to support us.
You can find a way if you are willing to do so.
One of the ways you can is by subscribing to our YouTube channel.
Also, we have a podcast channel.
Mr. Flaherty was a guest on one of our podcasts.
That's at Amren Podcasts.
And we have a website, amren.com at amren.com.
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