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Jan. 8, 2021 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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America's Bleeding a Lot
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Hello, I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance, and I'm delighted to have with me here in the studio, none other than Colin Flaherty.
Colin Flaherty is a distinguished maker of videos.
He's the author of best-selling books.
He is a compulsive truth-teller, general all-round hell-raiser, and somebody who has always got intelligent, incisive commentary on the events of the day.
Welcome. Welcome to our studio at America.
You're too kind, sir.
No, no.
Not kind enough.
Not kind enough.
Don't get me started on you.
That's all I've got to say.
No, no.
I won't get you started.
And tell us, when people wish to follow your work, what's the best way for them to stay in touch?
Well, I'm the easiest guy to find on the internet.
Podcasts, books, articles, videos.
Easy to find.
ColinFlaherty.com.
Just look for Colin Flaherty.
No, that's...
Coffee cups, mugs, t-shirts.
Wow, do you have a bobblehead doll too?
Just about.
Okay, great.
Well, obviously one of the things we'd like to talk about is the madness that has swept the country ever since the death of George Floyd.
St. George, we can practically call him now.
Are you the only one in America who remembers his name now?
I guess I am.
He's faded away into obscurity, hasn't he, that poor guy?
I think he sounds familiar.
Yes, George Floyd.
Yes. And really, we're really in a new state of affairs.
I mean, back in the 60s and even the last set of riots we had in Baltimore, when people burned down the CVS.
The CBS company did not suddenly say, well, who can we give money to?
Who can we give money to represent the people who tore the place up?
They certainly didn't do that in the 60s, the 1992 riots in Los Angeles.
This is a new thing.
When you burn down a store and you get a reward for it.
And it's also brand new that you have white people being flagged down on the street by activists, blacks, white women in particular, and told to get down on their knees.
And they do get down on their knees and they apologize for white privilege.
The whole idea that we've got systemic racism, systemic racism, institutional racism.
That used to be just the loony lefties and the universities talked about that, but now corporate execs, politicians, everybody's doing that.
Any idea how that suddenly happened, or has this been building up slowly?
What's your view on that?
Well, you know, I'm just as in the dark as everybody, because if I knew, maybe I would have seen it coming.
But I don't think people really are fully aware, like how widespread it is.
You know, when I think of all these hundreds of major corporations giving money to Black Lives Matter and sending out emails to their employees about institutional racism, to me, at some point it's a case of extortion.
Well, it certainly is clear that, at least to me, that none of this would have happened if there hadn't been the riots.
And it's very clear, rioting works.
Violence works, especially when you got the media championing the cause.
And we had all of these crazy media stories of, well, generally peaceful protests while buildings are burning down behind them.
Well, you saw what they asked Nancy Pelosi about, taking down the Columbus statue in her town, what she thought of that, in Baltimore, what she thought of that.
Did you hear her response?
No, I don't remember.
What did she say?
This happened just yesterday.
She said, people are going to do what they're going to do.
That's like the mayor of Baltimore saying that the rioters had to be given space to riot.
That's all she could say?
People are going to do what they're going to do?
Yeah, so we can sit here and blame it on the media, which is good.
But there's so many public officials who are complicit in this now by not enforcing the law.
And so my big question on all this is, A, do people know how widespread this is?
And the other question is, have the fellas finally overplayed their hand?
Asking too much, taking too much, making too many demands, and are people all over the country going, no, I'm not going there?
Well, I'm afraid that so many times I have asked myself, has the left finally overplayed its hand?
And it never seems to get there.
It never seems to get there.
I have made a summertime resolution thanks to these riots.
I have promised myself never to be surprised at anything ever again.
I used to be surprised.
Yeah, what's left?
Yes. Well, you and I can't imagine it, but something is going to happen.
You know, a year ago, we couldn't imagine this.
Exactly. But a year ago, we couldn't, I mean, two years ago, we couldn't have imagined what happened last year.
That's right.
So, I don't know.
I just hope we're in territory that people are finally saying no.
You know, is this a good time to talk about what we saw at Gettysburg?
Well, yes, do.
Please do tell me about what you saw at Gettysburg.
I wish I'd been there.
Oh, you know what?
It didn't occur to me.
I should have invited you.
You would have loved it.
So the question is, have the fellows overplayed their hand?
Are white people, Asian people, all kinds of people all over the country going, no, I'm going to stick by the monuments.
I'm not going to buy into your fairy tale that I'm a bad guy, you're a good guy.
No, you're the bad guys.
You're doing the rioting.
I'm the guy that goes to work every day to take care of business.
So in Delaware, we formed a little group with a couple of guys.
We called one the Godfather.
We called the other one True to Roof.
They kind of gave us the idea that we're going to take a bunch of people from Delaware to Gettysburg because Antifa and Black Lives Matter said they were going to burn flags and destroy the monuments.
So we just made some T-shirts.
We're going to give you a T-shirt.
And took 25 guys up there.
We didn't know what we were going to find.
What we found were tens of thousands of other people, it's amazing, who were there.
That same thing.
It's not like we were all on the same page or playbook.
Everybody just said, no, I'm not going to let that happen.
This was July 4th.
July 4th.
Last July 4th.
Yeah, and we saw over a thousand people open carrying AR-15s.
Good grief.
And guess what?
Every person in our group made the same comment.
I never felt so safe in my entire life.
And they were there to defend the monuments at Gettysburg.
Now, it was, I assume, a fairly bipartisan group.
They were defending Confederate and Yankee monuments.
Yeah, when we got there, when we saw what was happening, somebody said,"Hey, why don't you guys go out to the North Carolina monument?" Beautiful monument.
So we spent the day out there.
We did a live stream from Twitter.
A lot of reaction.
Everybody was all fired up to see all the people coming by congratulating us.
It was a very energizing experience.
And really, I mean, that's the question all of us have, right?
It's like, are there people in backyards all over the country having this conversation that this is not the America they signed up for, not the one we're going to allow to happen?
And we walked away from Gettysburg going...
Yeah, a lot of people like that.
You know, I have this sort of fantasy or semi-confident expectation that come November, in the privacy of the ballot box, we will find out, for the first time really, what a lot of ordinary Americans think about all this.
I sure hope so.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
We'll see.
We'll see.
But some of the polling data is not very encouraging.
The large number of people, especially young, white, cottage-educated women and cottage-educated white men, for that matter, who think Black Lives Matter is really important and there's all this systemic this and unconscious that and institutional this and colorblind, whatever.
It's all just been grinding the black people down for hundreds of years and we're still grinding them down.
People believe this stuff.
At least that's what the polls say.
That's what they tell polls.
So we'll see.
But, you know, you raise this question of how aware are people of how widespread all of this is.
And I have found a website to be a very, very handy place to find out.
It is a list of all the monuments that have come down during the George Floyd riots.
And there must be several hundred of them, if you include all the Confederate monuments.
But then you get Ulysses S. Grant.
You get Christopher Columbus.
He must be one of the favorite guys.
I counted 29 monuments of Christopher Columbus that have come down in honor of George Floyd.
As if Christopher Columbus were to blame for what happened to George Floyd.
But to me, this is as significant as anything.
Christopher Columbus, if Christopher Columbus ceases to be a hero and he becomes a villain, then doesn't that mean all of the United States, the idea of Europe coming to North America was a crime and we are all illegitimate?
That's a very significant thing.
Fruit of the poison tree.
That's what we are.
I guess we are.
And if instead of celebrating Columbus, you're going to celebrate Eskimos and Indians, which is Indigenous Peoples Day.
That's what that's all about.
Ten states already celebrate that, you know, including the District of Columbia, which is named for Columbus.
That's weird.
Turn their back on.
Doesn't that really mean you and I are interlopers, we're illegitimate, we don't belong here?
Yeah, they're really trying to sever the connection between our past and our present in order to control the present.
That's probably a little more philosophical than I usually go, but there's no question they're trying to reinvent our past.
If you like what this country is supposed to be, that's not what they're all about.
No, no.
It seems to me that it is, to what extent it's a coordinated or considered effort, I do not know, but it certainly is a delegitimizing of the European presence, white people in the United States.
When are white folks going to wake up to this?
To me, one of the most dispiriting things of all of this is you see these photographs of people climbing up on the statue of Andrew Jackson that's across the street from the White House in Lafayette Park.
White folks are attaching the cords trying to pull this stuff down.
This is a form of what the great Guillaume Feist called ethnomasochism, white people who apparently can't stand themselves.
This is really an increasingly widespread, and to me, historically unprecedented thing.
Stéphane Molyneux says, by calling all white people white nationalists, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I hope so.
If we're being attacked every single day for being white people, I don't know how people can ignore them.
Well, you and I would like to think that, as you say, the left has overplayed its hand, that they have gone too far.
When they start attacking George Washington, when they start attacking Columbus, who's left?
Is there a single white man in the entire history of the United States that we're allowed to admire?
History of the world.
Very good.
History of the world.
As our godfather points out.
White people are only, what, 7% of the entire planet?
Something like that, yes, and having maybe 4 or 5% of the babies.
Yeah. So, yeah, they're perfectly happy to see us on our way out.
And, yes, our hometown paper, the local paper, of course, I don't actually live in Washington, D.C., but not too far away, Washington Post, the global opinion editor.
Her name is Karen Appiah.
She was famous for having tweeted out a message of the fact that white women are lucky.
That all people of color do is call them Karens and that they're not seeking revenge.
They're lucky that they're not seeking revenge.
To me, one of the peak moments of history of journalism throughout the world was when the Washington Post said Washington and Lee University should change its name because they had the name Washington there.
Well, Washington's just as bad as Lee.
And I believe, was it the Post of the Times who had that editorial?
I've got to change its name, because they both terrorized blacks.
Did you know that?
And what that makes me think of is, they must have been running around in Klan hoods and torches, terrorizing.
What is this craziness, terrorizing blacks?
I think one thing that people really have to come to terms with in this country is how much black on white hostility, scorn, and violence is now mainstream.
You know, that is part of what's unprecedented, I think.
The crime statistics always bore out what we all feel instinctively, namely that if the United States has a problem with racial hate, it's not white people hating anybody.
It's particularly black people hating white people.
What are the numbers for interracial, 600,000 interracial crimes last year of violence?
That's right.
93% was black on white.
About 85% are black on white, and maybe 50%.
That's what we call a pattern.
It's a consistent pattern, year in, year out.
Sometimes it's up to about 90%, 85%, 90%.
It's very consistent, and the numbers are pretty consistent, too.
It varies between about 550,000 and 650,000.
Another number that blows people's minds, of course, is the mass shooters.
75% of mass shooters are black.
That's right.
Nobody can handle that.
The thing is, there are statisticians who insist on not including any kind of gang-related mass shooting.
No, that doesn't count.
That doesn't count.
No, no, no.
Say, some white guy, sorry, some black guy gets trigger-happy and blows away four or five of the fellows.
No, that's not a mass shooting.
That was gang-related, so that's just not good.
Or somebody goes in and kills a family.
Oh, that's domestic.
That's not, it's like...
If you systematically eliminate all the black people from mass shootings, then you come up with a number that says 90% of mass shootings are white people.
Mother Jones and Newsweek are the ones who plant that crazy seed.
Oh boy, and there are plenty of them too.
But on this mass shooting, a little final touch on it.
Easy to document.
Go to your favorite search engine.
Put in the word three people shot, four people shot.
Up to ten.
Then go three people wounded, four people wounded, up to ten.
Count the number of incidents you've seen in the last week.
Week. It'll be 20 to 40 per week.
80 to 90 percent of them are going to be black people.
How do you know?
Just because it happened in Baltimore.
Just because it happened in Philadelphia.
Well, most of them you can tell.
But some of them, like if there's a shooting in the ghetto in the south side of Chicago at 3 a.m., And a bunch of fellas get shot.
Well, there aren't white people out roaming around.
I'm just making fun of you.
You intrude a roof.
You're ganging up on me now.
That's right.
I'm ganging up on you.
I'll have my revenge.
In fact, when, as recently happened in Baltimore, there was a white couple.
I don't know what they were doing in Baltimore.
Two in the morning.
And the woman got shot, killed, and the man was wounded.
That is news.
Because it's so rare.
Actually, white people stop in bullets in places like that.
So yeah, generally, if the race is mentioned, then we'll find out that it's a white person.
But no.
And the whole idea, black lives matter.
I mean, this is a cliché by now.
But it's so clear that the only black lives that matter are the ones that white people kill, especially policemen.
They start knocking each other off.
Babies, women, pregnant ladies.
They can kill each other all they like.
And they don't matter because you can't pin it on white people.
One of the reasons I like to focus on black crime, violence, and dysfunction is because to me, that's the weakest spot of this entire enterprise we call race relations today.
And it's so wildly out of proportion that if you don't know that now, there's only one reason you don't know it.
It's because you don't want to know it.
You spent your entire life pretending it's not true.
But, you know, I think a lot of people, if all they do is read the ordinary papers and watch TV, they might very well not know it.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's what True to Roof likes to point out, is that even a white person can sit there and sit right here and say, that's not true, Colin.
But then we ask about their lifestyle.
Do you go to black churches?
Do you go to black barbers?
Do you go to black neighborhoods?
Do you know five at nine o'clock at night for a quart of milk?
Do you go to a black...
Grocery store.
Send your kids to black schools.
So they're lying to everybody.
They're lying to themselves, and they think they're lying to us, but it's pretty transparent.
Yeah, it would be interesting to actually sit people down and say, well...
How much more likely do you think a black person is to commit a violent crime than a white person?
How much more likely?
And they'd hem and they'd haw.
And then, as you say, once you start pinning them down in terms of where they'd like to live, where they'd like to be at 12 midnight on Friday night, then it all becomes very clear that they have some notion.
But would the New York Times ever?
Publish any of the statistics that you just cited about the black and white crimes of interracial violence.
That's a good question.
They actually are the ones who published that story about the mass shooters, who the mass shooters are in this country.
You could tell, reading the story, you had to go way down, and when they finally said it, you could just hear the reporter as she wrote it, just grinding her teeth, and she didn't want any part of this story.
But, you know, they had a lot of time invested in it, so there was.
That's right.
Can't let the facts spoil a good story.
Especially if it's some way to browbeat and hoodwink white people into thinking that they are the problem.
But to me, again, this is, we have turned a new page in American history.
The extent to which...
White people are so clearly and officially being designated the problem.
You and I, white men especially, are the obstacle to this multi-culti paradise that we would have if it weren't for us.
You know, I just wish more people really...
I agree with that a thousand percent.
And the key to this whole enterprise that we're talking about now is convincing everybody that that's really what they're hearing on CNN and MSNBC and NPR.
A lot of people resist hearing that.
They really do.
You know, I did a video about this, the extent to which white people, I think a lot of them are still attached to their country.
They think that America is still basically a good place, that it still belongs to them in some way.
And I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the symbols are still the same.
We've got the same Constitution.
Yeah, sure, sure.
Same branches of government, you know.
And the Capitol is still Washington.
And that nice domed building is still where the legislature is.
They still think it's the same country, but it's not the same country.
And it doesn't belong to them.
And they may love America, but America sure does not love white people at this point.
But at what point can you get people to really...
Cut loose, uncouple, and realize, wait a minute, our interests are not being represented.
I may be a citizen, I may pay taxes, but this is at some fundamental level not my country anymore.
You know, when people talk about white people detaching from this country, the first thing that occurs to me is black people detached themselves from this country a long time ago.
They're just not a part of what we're doing here.
They're just not.
You go to a Memorial Day parade, they're not there.
You go to 4th of July, it's like, that's all about slavery.
They're not that into us.
So 10 guys in a pickup truck go to Idaho and say, we're going to start a white nation, and the news is all over it, but black elected officials, black reporters, they're just sitting there constantly saying how much this country is a failure because it's failed black people,
and that's an article of faith.
And it seems to me it's just getting worse and worse.
It used to be a little bit surprising when you would have a black city council member who, when everybody started the city council meetings, the Pledge of Allegiance, he'd say, well, I'm not going to do that.
Liberty and justice for all, that didn't include me and my ancestors.
That was a bit of a shock back, say, in, oh, 10, 20 years ago.
Now that's sort of almost taken regret.
Now I'm thinking of, you may be thinking of a city councilman in Jackson, Mississippi.
Who, when the cops were coming into Jackson to chase criminals who were fleeing from outside to Jackson, a city councilman got on television and he said, we don't want those cops here.
If they come into our town, we are going to throw rocks and breaks and bottles at them.
So this is mainstream stuff now.
That guy, by the way, was lionized and elevated for his call to action.
And to me, again, The number of people and the number of institutionally recognized, solid people from politicians to preachers to editorial writers who take this view that the United States was just this horrible,
flawed place right from the start, that every one of the founders, they were all wicked people.
They were just in it for rich white men and they wanted to kick everybody else to the curb.
Or as the New York Times says in their 1619 project, they were in it for one reason, one reason only, to establish slavery.
Upon which everything great about this country flowed.
That's Pulitzer Prize material there.
You're right about that.
No, this is all brand new stuff.
Well, I know you have contacts in police departments around the country.
This must be a terribly dispiriting and very discouraging time to be a police officer in the United States.
The cops are as confused about this stuff as we are.
They don't recognize what their job is anymore.
Even cops in small towns or bigger towns with a smaller black population, the cops are all counting the days to retirement, every single one of them.
You know, the last time I got a speeding ticket, and I deserved it, I got talking to the officer.
You didn't get it because you were black?
I didn't get it because I was black.
I got it because I was speeding.
I asked the officer a number of things.
How many people say, oh, you stopped me because I was black?
Oh, you get this blackity-black stuff all the time.
Despite the fact that they're using speed cameras and they don't even know who's in the car.
They don't even know who's in the car before they stop the car.
Anyway, I asked him, is it hard to recruit these days?
He says, hard to recruit?
Is it really impossible to recruit?
When he joined the Virginia State...
State police.
There were hundreds of guys looking for just a few spots.
We got to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
We ended up with just the leavings, trying to bribe people practically to come work for us.
And that's just going to get worse and worse and worse, it seems.
Well, their masters in the state capitol are forcing them to lower their standards.
There's physical standards, mental standards, and there's background standards.
You have a lot of consumer debt.
They don't want you to be a cop.
You'll be susceptible to bribery.
All that's out the window.
Drug use, criminal activity, all out the window.
There's a cop.
A lot of cops in Chicago follow my stuff, as do you're very popular with cops, too.
And one guy was telling me a few months ago, he goes, in my training class, we had a black person whose aunt was an alderman.
He could not read.
Well, you know...
This is a story every fireman in America will tell you as well.
Oh, yes.
Yes, firemen.
We had, on American Renaissance website, we had a very popular little commentary by a retired San Francisco fireman.
And he was describing what it was like to be a fireman back in the 1980s in San Francisco.
And the number of times when you would answer a fire in a certain, well, rather...
Not too diverse part of town.
And you'd be met with bricks.
Or people would throw refrigerators off of rooftops onto the fire trucks and all.
And he says one of the things people would do, they would set a car fire at the end.
At a cul-de-sac.
At a cul-de-sac.
And the firetruck comes out, zoom!
They're using the pump from the tank in the firetruck to put out the fire.
And then they start being attacked.
Things being thrown at them.
And it takes a lot of work to back around.
And so what they would do, they got wise of that.
If they got one of these car fire stories, they would back up to it.
It takes a little bit of time to get to it, put the fire out, but they can be a quick getaway when they have to.
This just happened.
I forget what town it was in just the other day.
There was just a massive attack on firefighters in Tampa a week or two ago.
Same thing.
They faked a shooting.
This happened twice.
Tampa and New York, like in two days.
Faked a shooting.
Hundreds of cops roll in.
All of a sudden, there are hundreds and hundreds of black people throwing rocks, shooting guns at the cops.
Some black people are conducting a war in this country against the cops, and the cops are proxies for us.
That's exactly right.
The cops are representatives of white society, just like Christopher Columbus is a representative of white America.
And so they are the targets.
They are stopping the bullets, or in the case of Columbus, the hacksaws and the ropes that are aimed, I think, ultimately and eventually for us.
Let me ask you a question.
We didn't talk about, we were going to talk about this.
So Trump has spent the last three years pandering in every way he can to get black votes.
Is that going to pay off?
If he'll be lucky to get another 0.7% of the black vote for all that stuff he does?
No, I think this is...
I'm not all that surprised, although I'm still disappointed.
Donald Trump, of course, I'll vote for him because I'd rather he was in the office of Joe Biden.
Compared to Joe Biden, he's probably going to do a better job.
But compared to all the things he could have done, the president, he...
It could have been.
But I don't think that he thinks systematically really about anything.
He just erratically goes from one thing to another.
And now, understand he's talking about granting amnesty to these DACA people.
When he was campaigning the first time around, he promised his first day in office.
He was going to do an executive order to undo Barack Obama's executive order.
So I don't have much faith.
I don't have much faith in Donald Trump.
But, as I say, like so many Americans, I don't vote for a guy.
I vote against a guy.
So I think that's what's going to happen.
And we will see at least he has been one politician who has come down pretty hard on all of this rioting, looting, arson, and tearing down monuments.
And to me, the way the Washington Post covered his July 4th speech, he was out at Mount Rushmore, and when...
He's there, rather than Barack Obama, it's a monument to Kitsch.
Whereas with Barack Obama there, it was this ennobling monument to this, that, in any case.
As soon as he shows up, it's Kitsch.
But he was talking about how these rioters and looters, they don't want to improve America.
They want to upend and get rid of America.
And the Washington Post, they said he had sunk to new depths of depravity.
By talking new depths of depravity.
And for them, for Donald Trump, saying the new depths of depravity is under this table.
But it just goes to show you how completely bifurcated the country is.
Well, you know what?
We're going to answer a lot of those questions in November this year.
A lot of questions will be asked, although I wish you and I were asking the questions.
Yeah, yeah.
It'd be a whole lot of fun to ask some of those questions.
Can you imagine?
You, me, running a presidential debate.
Now, Mr. Biden, what do you think of the results of the National Crime Victimization Survey, according to which a black person is 28 times more likely to attack a white person the other way?
Were you even aware of that?
No? Why, Mr. Biden...
Anyway, no, we will find out a lot of interesting things in November.
But... I would really appreciate your coming by.
It's been great to have you in the studio, and we will have to do it again next time you're within striking distance.
Well, I know a lot of people that follow my stuff are always very excited when we do something together, so thank you for having me.
Well, vice versa.
We're going to go out in your backyard and do a tweet stream right now.
Okay, okay.
Ready for that?
Well, I haven't been on Twitter for such a long time.
I might feel out of place.
I'll be a fish out of water.
Yeah, well, you'll do fine.
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