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May 29, 2020 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Rioting in Minneapolis
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the latest episode of Radio Renaissance.
My name is Jared Taylor.
I'm the editor of American Renaissance, and with me is my always indispensable co-host on this program, Paul Kersey.
Mr. Kersey, I'm delighted to have you with us, and we have, as usual, a packed agenda of stories to talk about.
I'd say that's an understatement of the century.
Maybe not in a century, maybe this week.
And clearly we have to begin with the excitement, the festivities in Minneapolis.
All of this, of course, this is the second day of rioting we had just last night.
We are recording, by the way, on a Thursday, and if this program is not put up on the internet today, it will go up tomorrow, Friday.
But we had a second night of rioting.
The rioting is over the death of a black man, George Floyd, in police custody.
We'll get a little bit more into that, into the details on that later on.
But in this second night of rioting, as CBS Television said, the damage was stretching for miles across the city.
Yes, there was a considerable amount of rioting and looting.
Among the stores that were looted was a Target, a liquor store, a Dollar Tree, a Cub, an Aldi, a Wendy, an AutoZone, and there is an interesting little video on YouTube in which somebody is revving up a chainsaw.
That's a pretty exciting way to riot.
And someone is shouting in the background, that's a library!
People read books there!
And it is my understanding the library was in fact spared, but it sounds as though there was sentiment in the mob to go after the library.
Now, all of the videos make clear that there was not a great deal of diversity among the rioters and the looters.
We had our usual monochrome cast of characters, and I won't go into just what color they were, but they were Shockingly monochrome for the most part.
Among the things that happened, officers responded to a reported stabbing near where the protests were and found a man lying on the sidewalk with what turned out to be a bullet wound.
He and a reported looter who apparently was shot dead by the pawn shop that he was attempting to loot seemed to be the only death so far.
And when we're speaking of only this and only that, I was shocked to hear of only maybe one or two arrests because this blatant looting, blatant arson, at one point the crowd broke into a police compound And started smashing up police cars.
No arrests.
The worst thing that seems to have happened to people is that they had to breathe a little bit of tear gas.
One of the things that I found quite entertaining, really, on one of these Twitter videos was a rioter apparently had driven his car into a store.
And there's a video in which someone is talking to him and he's asking people to help him drive the car back out of the store because it's stuck.
And he doesn't know how to put the car into reverse and he confesses that he is 13 years old.
So they're learning young.
But he drove the car into the store apparently to open it up so as to do a little back-to-school shopping.
Another episode that I thought was quite piquant There were some armed white men out demonstrating for justice for Floyd.
They were on the side of the rioters, but they took a break from their demonstration to try to protect a tobacco shop from being looted.
They said, we want the police held to account, but that does not justify looting.
So what do you know?
A sentiment of armed good sense was in that crowd.
Mr. Taylor, one of the things I found quite interesting about the conversation they had with the journalists when they were being asked what they were doing there, one of them made reference to the rooftop Koreans.
Did you catch that?
No, no.
I didn't watch all the way to the end of it.
They talked about the roof cut.
Well, you know, that is something that has gone down in legend and in history.
That was the 1992 riots, were they not, in Los Angeles?
That's correct.
And yes, the Koreans, the armed Koreans defending their stores, that's become part of the mythology of the armed American.
I didn't see any white men with weapons protecting their property back in 1992.
And it's very good of these guys to volunteer to protect the property of others.
I thought that was great.
Now, one thing they failed to protect was a building under construction.
It was reportedly affordable housing.
I'm not sure if that's been confirmed, but this was a huge, looks like about a seven or eight story building, going up in just a bonfire of flames.
Somebody got it on video collapsing.
Very, very dramatic.
One of the incidents that was also captured on video is a disabled white woman in a wheelchair trying to stop looters from getting into a store.
Well, what happens to her?
She is sprayed with a fire extinguisher and bloodied and robbed.
That's what she got for trying to protect somebody else's property.
Do you recall what her shirt said?
What this white woman's shirt said?
No, no.
Do tell us.
What did it say?
Better together.
Better together.
Well, I'm sure she's learning just how the spirit of togetherness has animated Minneapolis these days.
And then, of course, as you know, there were protests in other cities.
Well, first of all, you'd gotten a count on the number of buildings that were burned.
What's the figure on that?
Cruz in Minneapolis responded to roughly 30 fires, including at least 16 structure fires during what needs to be called not a protest, but Mr. Taylor, I don't think you'd object to this, but a black insurrection along Lake Street.
Nope, I would not call it an insurrection.
Insurrection sounds like something that is politically motivated and has some sort of political goal.
I would just call this a riot.
And in this case, we have to point out that the incident that led to this was one in which there were four police officers.
Two appear to be white and two appear to be Asians.
They sound like Hmong names or some sort of Asian name.
They arrested a fellow, and they held him down on the ground.
He was cuffed, and he was on his stomach.
And you have watched the full video, but I have not.
But the white police officer, one of the two whites, has his knee on his neck for, according to some accounts, five minutes, according to some accounts, seven minutes.
Well, he says, I can't breathe.
You're hurting me.
And a guy who's on his stomach with his hands cuffed behind his back does not strike me as a threat.
What is your impression, having watched the full video of what was done?
Indefensible.
I'll come out and just be blunt.
I have no idea where that type of maneuver, when a When somebody who has committed a crime, who's been arrested, allegedly committed a crime, and like you said, they're handcuffed, the guy was on his stomach, and the white cop had his knee firmly on the guy's neck, and it looked like he was bearing down all of his weight.
It was almost as if he was using his hand, putting it on the car, to constrain him.
And it's tough to watch.
It really is a difficult video to watch.
Because this might be the first video that actually confirms what a lot of the Black Lives Matter protesters were saying happened between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman back in 2012, what happened on Canfield Drive in Ferguson, Missouri between Mike Brown and Officer Darren Wilson, which of course we know was not the hands-up-don't-shoot, but this actually was a moment where this guy could have just lifted his knee up and this guy would still be alive.
George would still be alive.
Well, you know, I had read that he was pronounced dead, that George Floyd was pronounced dead some, I mean, an hour or an hour and a half after the incident.
And I thought, well, okay, maybe there was something else.
Maybe it was like the Eric Garner case in which there were all sorts of other contributing factors to the reason for the heart attack.
But apparently, When the medics showed up right on the scene, they found a quote, unresponsive, pulseless male.
So he was pretty much dead on the spot.
But you know, there was another case that was caught on video.
I'm sure you'll remember it when I recall it to your mind.
This was in North Charleston, South Carolina, in which a white police officer shoots a fleeing black man in the back.
Do you remember that incident?
I remember it quite well, oh yeah.
Yes, that guy ended up doing hard time for excellent reasons, it seems to me.
But here, I just don't understand.
It's difficult to imagine any kind of extenuating circumstances that would justify a man sticking his knee, and you say bearing his full weight, on a man's neck when he's already subdued, cuffed with his hands behind his back, Lying on his stomach.
This is really a remarkable thing.
The fellow's name is Derek Chauvin.
C-H-A-U-V-I-N.
Maybe he pronounces it Chauvin.
And then the three other arrested officers.
One was Thomas Lane.
I'm assuming he's white.
And then there's Thu Thao.
That sounds like he's got to be a Hmong.
And then Jay Alexander, Alexander Keung.
He's some sort of Asian.
But what is interesting to me here is that as soon as the video came out, those four were immediately fired.
And I'm sure that there was an investigation into some kind of possible criminal action taken against them.
But as usual, as usual, our African American fellow citizens can't wait.
They go out and they start demonstrating.
All of these accounts are very clear.
The demonstration started out peaceful, but then when there are enough, when there are enough melanin enhanced demonstrators, this is something you can almost always count on.
Doesn't make any difference what the purpose is.
If there are enough of them out there on the streets, then things begin to happen and it's back to school shopping, All over again.
We've seen this in Ferguson, we've seen this in Baltimore, we've seen this in the riots in the 1960s.
This is just par for the course.
And we have an article at the AmRen website by a fellow who used to live in this area.
It is largely non-white, but there are still some whites that live there.
And he says, he writes, it is just the kind of neighborhood, high crime, terrible schools, a mix of people who don't really get along very well.
It is precisely the kind of place where you would expect something like this to happen, given the tinderbox state of affairs, the state of racial affairs there.
And one thing, another thing that I think is worth pointing out, the U.S.
Attorney, the Feds, the FBI in Minneapolis said that they were conducting a, quote, robust criminal investigation, which it sounds like they should in the case of this guy who had his knee on the neck.
And they're making the case a priority.
Now this of course means that this is a concession to mob rule.
Why are they making it a priority?
These guys are not probably flight risks.
In any case, it's a priority only because of the mob reaction.
And the FBI has already announced it's investigating whether this is a civil rights violation case.
But we'll have to see.
If this Chauvin fellow has ever said one word that's off the reservation in terms of race, this won't just be a murder inquiry.
This will have to do with racism, civil rights violation.
This guy's life is over for sure, and it'll be interesting to find out why the other three are being fired and held responsible.
I suppose they perhaps Perhaps, according to police regulations, if they saw an unauthorized action that was perhaps possible causing death to someone, they had an obligation to intervene and stop him.
But this is really quite a remarkable thing.
And I believe you're right.
My impression is that what he did, what this Chauvin guy, was just simply an excuse It wasn't excusable.
It wasn't excusable?
Look, cops have such a difficult job.
This is one of the recurring themes that we have spoken about on this program going back four years since we started.
Cops have an unfathomable job trying to hold together law and order and the standards of civilization white people long ago set in a society that is increasingly non-white.
And you're dealing with just High levels of crime, as you noted, that article at amarin.com points out.
One more point about Minneapolis.
Minneapolis is basically ground zero for the racial change that the state and all of these refugee resettlement organizations have enacted.
Outside of Minneapolis, Minnesota is probably, what, 95% white?
Minneapolis now is, I think it's almost 60% white after being After being close to 95% white as long ago, or only as short a time ago as the 1970s, this racial change has happened fast!
Yes, that's right.
And we have an article on that as well.
It makes for kind of an interesting combination of Minneapolis articles that we have up now.
This demographic change, it's taken place very rapidly and analyzed by Gregory Hood in his usual insightful way.
And we also have a photo essay taken by a fellow who lived there for quite some time, showing just how radically non-European, non-American, Non-white, this neighborhood has become.
It is, as I said before, a real tinderbox for the kind of event that we are seeing there today and yesterday.
And it'll be a good question.
My suspicion is that they won't be out in force quite in the same levels tonight, but we could see more fires, we could see more rioting.
We will have to evaluate whether or not the police can control it, and whether or not the police, again, will actually make some arrests.
It sickens me.
It absolutely sickens me when I see people taking hammers, taking baseball bats, clubbing to police cars, looting, for heaven's sake, setting fires to buildings, and they walk away.
They walk away.
This kind of mob mentality, when they can get away with it, this really does show what a segment of the American populace is up to when they think they can get away with it.
They will just do it, and they won't think twice about it.
So, oh, and I did want to mention that there had been similar demonstrations in other cities, in Los Angeles.
There was a group of people, they burned an American flag, while a woman, this was actually a group of Hispanics, I thought this was quite interesting, and they said, make America native again, as they burned the American flag.
They talked about sympathy for their black brothers.
Now, this is an interesting turn of events when you have Mexican immigrants, Latin American immigrants in Los Angeles talking about demonstrating in defense of their black brothers.
And while they burned the American flag, they were shouting, fuck the flag, fuck America, and fucking leave.
I think by leave, they mean people like you and me, Mr. Cash.
I believe that they do.
Yes, yes.
They weren't saying, disperse, go to your homes.
No, no, it wasn't that.
And one of the things they chanted was, no justice, no peace, prosecute the police.
And now I suspect also in their view, this was a collective police, not the four people who were involved in the death of George Floyd.
No justice, no peace, prosecute the police.
And in Memphis as well.
Police had respond to a protest in riot gear, and at least on that occasion, two people were arrested, unlike in Minneapolis.
Really quite shameful what happened there.
Now, you had a few more piquant details to add to what happened in Minneapolis.
I've got a few more details I want to bring out, but I want to bring out something real quick.
It's May 28th, again, 2020.
Year of our Lord 2020.
And as Mr. Taylor said, he doesn't think we're going to see, you know, flare-ups again tonight, Minneapolis.
It's important to point out that Ilhan Omar, one of your favorite Congresswomen, represents this district.
And she actually tweeted out something along the lines of solidarity last night, saying that there is no justice.
And it is disgusting to see the police basically cede large portions of the city to this type of Lawless, riotous behavior that we saw, of course, in 2015 when the mayor of Baltimore gave people space to destroy for those who wanted it.
Yes, it's sickening.
It's absolutely sickening to see this kind of lawlessness go unpunished.
People will notice it and they'll film it.
If the authorities had any real diligence about this, I'm sure they could very easily go through all of this video and figure out who these people are and arrest them.
The chance of that happening are zero. So everybody who celebrated, who did some unauthorized
spontaneous shopping, all of those people are going to look back on this period
as one in which, yeah, we got away with it.
We stuck it to the man. The more this sort of thing happens and goes unpunished, the more likely it is
to happen. Yeah, they got a free 60-inch plasma TV, which is nicer than one you have in your house.
No, but there's also one thing I wanted to bring up about a strange similarity and a symmetry of this event before we move on.
Do you know what was supposed to happen yesterday, Mr. Taylor?
I'm sorry, what was supposed to happen?
What was supposed to happen yesterday?
It got delayed till Saturday, but what was supposed to happen?
Mmm, you've got me stumped.
Elon Musk and SpaceX were going to send two American astronauts into space in the first commercial space launch of a rocket.
It was scrubbed for two days, but there's a strange symmetry when you think about that.
On the same day that this was going to happen, we have a black riot.
What was going on 51 years ago during the 1960s when the Gemini and the Apollo programs were trying to get men to the moon by the end of the decade?
Well, we had some celebratory activity in many large American cities.
You basically had massive black riots.
In fact, Life Magazine actually called the 1960... what was the big one in Detroit?
Was that 63 or 65?
I forget the year, but they called it the Negro Insurrection on the cover of their magazine.
I've got a couple issues of that actually here and I like to look at it because the frankness of the news media at the time was... it's refreshing to look back upon.
People knew what was going on.
Yes, but now one of the videos that has emerged from Minneapolis, and one whose authenticity I doubted, but that you assured me it's the real thing, it is a video of a car roaring by while a The woman inside is shouting, shoot the white folks!
Yes!
Now, as far as we know, that didn't actually happen, but I'm sure that is an authentic and heartfelt story.
Well, luckily no white folks were, like you said, luckily no white folks were shot last night.
There were a lot of white journalists who were bravely, you know, they were wearing masks.
If you've seen the video, it's interesting.
Not a lot of social distancing going on.
with the rioters but the journalists were of course wearing masks probably because there was so much smoke again 30 fires but yeah a video was uploaded last night showing someone demanding the rioters quote shoot the white folks now this comes this comes after oh go ahead mr taylor Well, no, no.
It comes after what?
Are you going to mention one of my favorite pop culture icons?
Yes, I'm going to mention one of your favorite pop culture icons, Ice Cube, a veteran rapper and actor who, prior to the rioting last night, said how much more crime must police officers commit against black Americans before, quote, Before we strike back, how long we go for blue on black crime before we strike back, said, you know, his real name is Shay Jackson.
And he wrote that on Twitter on Tuesday, which would have been May 26.
Well, I guess his wish has been granted.
I'm sure he's happy now.
Would he take responsibility for this?
Would he say, attaboy, go man, go?
They have struck back, all right.
They've struck back in all sorts of ways that are destructive to their community, of course.
If that was really low-income housing was burned down, local stores have been burned up and looted, but they have struck back as our African-American fellow citizens best know how to strike back.
There's one more quote I'd like to read from the mayor.
of Minneapolis, Mr. Taylor.
He said this.
He said this.
Being black in America should not be a death sentence.
For five minutes, we watched as a white officer pressed his knee to the neck of a black man for five minutes.
When you hear someone calling for help, you're supposed to help.
This officer failed in the most basic human sense."
Now, Mr. Taylor, I think back three years ago.
You did a video on this very important story, and I hope that we can do more Well, and shockingly, white people did not riot.
There was hardly any attention given to this.
There was some mild murmur of discontent.
police officers shot and killed a white Australian woman, Justine Daimond.
Well, and shockingly, white people did not riot. There was hardly any attention given to this.
There was some mild murmur of discontent. This Justine Daimond showed up in her nightgown,
actually, at night, hoping to meet the police who were on their way in answer to a call
about a disturbance.
But let's not go into that in great detail.
We'd have to really describe it in some, with a certain amount of detail in order to draw the parallel.
But the parallel is there.
Her shooting caused nothing like an insurrection, no riots, no demonstrations, nothing at all.
But after all, she was only a white woman.
And it was a black man, one of these trailblazing Somalis who became a police officer in formerly overwhelmingly white Minnesota.
So he was a hero and she was collateral damage.
But speaking of car theft, If we move to New York City, vehicle larcenies, that means theft out of a car, are up 63% in the city.
And they're up nearly 17% in Los Angeles from January through mid-May of the preceding year.
Now, I guess, I would guess, if you limited it just for March, the figures would be even, even higher, considerably higher.
And in New York City, probably the no bail, no detention Regimen for non-violent crime mean, as we know, you're booked and then you're out immediately to go knock off another car.
Now, as a Sergeant Chris Vetrano of Austin, Texas says, what we have here in terms of vehicle crime is a vehicle larceny, is a perfect storm.
He says that drivers are at home, not using or checking their cars regularly, school's out, teenagers are having a good time, and furthermore, they're criminals.
are largely out of work because if they are street thugs, those who are specializing in robbery, they have fewer people to go after, although their targets are back on the street now more and more.
And likewise, in Salt Lake City, police detective Greg Wilking said they too have had a 22% spike in vehicle burglaries, and I think he described it really very well.
He says, it's really just 10 seconds.
They're not spending a lot of time on your car.
It's smash and grab and go, sometimes in broad daylight.
I'm sure that's true.
If you look through the window of a car and you see something tempting on the backseat, you just smash the window, grab it, and it probably wouldn't even take 10 seconds.
But I believe St.
Louis is also having a crime wave because of the coronavirus jailbreak.
Yeah, I like to look at stories from St.
Louis, some of these cities, where we know that there is a gross disparity in crime committed by blacks versus whites, when the city of St.
Louis is 49% black, 44% white.
So you'd think that, hey, maybe there's going to be some equality of criminality.
Well, this headline struck me, Mr. Taylor.
It was About 50 detainees released from St.
Louis jails because of the coronavirus have been re-arrested, the city officials said.
So these were pre-trial detainees who were released from city jails because of coronavirus concerns, and they've been re-arrested.
Now, Mr. Kersey, I'm going to ask you an embarrassing question.
You just started this little segment talking about racial differences in crime rates.
Now, did this news report tell you how many of those 50 rearrested were our African-American fellow citizens?
It did not, I'm sure.
Ah, shame on you, shame on you.
I know, I know.
You're leaping to conclusions, you're leaping to conclusions.
I'm leaping to conclusions that the data would suggest based on, you know, the St.
Louis Metropolitan Police Department actually puts out some unbelievably comprehensive crime data, and they keep track of homicide arrests throughout the entire year.
And the last time I checked in early May, there had been You know, there's such a low clearance rate for homicides in St.
Louis, as there are in most major U.S.
cities.
I want to say 95 or 98% of the arrests had been black males so far.
There had actually been more black women arrested for homicides than white males in the city of St.
Louis in 2020.
But going back to the story, you're right.
I'm jumping to unnecessary conclusions.
Well, probably justified.
Yeah, I just wanted to call that to your attention.
It must be strictly logical, strictly based on the data.
Well, can we move to Chicago?
We can move to Chicago.
Chicago on Memorial Day.
This was just one of those little local news items, despite the continuing stay-at-home order for the entire state of Illinois.
The idea is you're supposed to stay inside, quote, unless you work for an essential business or are doing an essential activity.
Well, in Chicago, at least in certain neighborhoods, opening fire on your fellow citizens seems to be an essential activity.
Because over Memorial Day, over Memorial Day weekend, 10 people were killed in Chicago.
And 38 were injured.
That's 48 people who were hit by gunfire.
We don't know how many were missed.
It would be interesting to know how many cartridges were actually discharged over that weekend.
Again, 10 people killed, 38 injured.
The youngest was a 16-year-old Darnell Fisher.
And all of this despite the fact that Chicago Police, they were not counting on the stay-at-home order.
They had increased patrols and community organizers were deployed all around the neighborhood, quote, hotspots to try to stem gun violence over the holiday weekend when As reports say, it typically spikes.
Well, it typically spiked again.
It doesn't seem to have worked.
But it's not as though this was so unusual.
As I say, 10 dead, 38 injured.
The weekend before, which wasn't a three-day weekend, six dead, 32 wounded.
So, there you go.
Now, again, I'm going to violate the rules that I unfairly inflicted on you just a moment ago when talking about St.
Louis.
There was no indication, really, of the race of these people who were killed and the race of the people who were doing the shooting.
Except to the extent that you could see photographs, one does get a certain monochrome impression.
But once again, I am reminded of the fact that The only black lives that seem to matter are black lives whose deaths can be attributed to whites.
Here you've got, in one weekend, in just one city, ten people dead.
Do their lives matter?
No.
There's no demonstrations.
No demonstrations at all.
A black person who dies at the hands of another black person is a statistic.
A black person who dies at the hands of a white person, even under unambiguous circumstances, matters because this can be used to sustain this idea that white people are wicked white supremacists always on the prowl for black people to kill.
But just a little side trip to Chicago over Memorial Day.
And I believe we have a side trip scheduled for Louisville, do we not?
Yeah, I believe he used to call Louisville home.
One last thought real quick.
Yes?
Did you know that roughly 70-75% of the men killed by police in a typical year are white or Hispanic?
Yes, that sounds about right.
That sounds about right.
One of your favorite debate opponents, Professor Wilford Riley, he tweeted that out the other day and I thought it was a great tweet because he then asked this question.
Name two.
Can you name one of the Hispanic or white men killed in 2019 by a cop?
I can't name a single one.
Although I was just looking at video of some of the rather dubious cases of whites who were gunned down by police under circumstances which, if the person had been black, it would have resulted in riots of the kind we're seeing in Minnesota.
And just to go back and return to this question of what policing is like, you and I have agreed for years now that being a white officer in the United States of America, certainly in any big city, must be one of the toughest, most, in some respects, professionally fragile jobs in the world.
For just a few seconds of inattention or even doing your job, you can be fired, you can never work again, you even go to jail.
And one of the consequences of this is that good quality people are avoiding police work.
I've spoken to a police officer who said, no, we're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Nobody wants to become an officer.
And you can see why.
And now this Chauvin guy who was involved in the death in Minneapolis, perhaps he was one of these guys.
They were scraping the bottom of the barrel and they ended up with some psychopath.
Who knows?
These are very, very tough times for police officers, and as a consequence, very tough times for Americans.
For those who like Law & Order, you're exactly right.
One more point about that whole case yesterday.
I know you're banned from the Twitter, but somebody decided to try and create this idea that this officer that you just mentioned, He had been pictured with a hat that said,
Make White Great Again, and that, you know, Make America Great Again.
It was a red cap and it had been distorted.
And they tried to say this is the same officer.
Mr. Taylor, this tweet was probably viewed by tens of millions of people around the country,
and it was erroneous information.
And yet Twitter didn't step in and say, We're taking this down because you are spreading rumors.
You're spreading dangerous racial innuendos to further this anti-white hostility that of course going back to what Ice Cube had tweeted out on Tuesday.
This is calls to violence and when people are taught on a daily basis from the moment they wake up to the moment they go to sleep that every problem that a non-white person in this country faces is due to Redlining due to white privilege, due to implicit bias, due to systemic inequality, due to historical racism.
What do you think is going to manifest when you're presented with a video that actually does show the police brutality of a white cop on a black male, but they've been told happens daily?
Well, and what's remarkable here is these guys were fired practically on the spot, just hours after this video appeared, and the machinery of justice was clanking away.
It did not require this mass uprising, this mass violence, in order for the machinery to
work properly.
But they don't want to wait. They won't wait.
And as I say, once they're out in sufficient numbers, it doesn't make any difference why they're there.
They will take the opportunity.
But take us to Louisville, if you please.
Let's go to your old stomping grounds again.
Again, Louisville is a city I like to take a look at.
It's one of the whitest big cities still in America.
It's over 72% white as of 2010 census.
And yet it has one of the greatest disparities in violent crime committed by blacks versus whites.
Something like 90% of the homicides in 2019 were committed by blacks.
Now we've got a story with this headline.
LMPD.
Louisville seeing uptick in violent crime, black youth homicides.
Well, once again, this story will not tell you who actually is committing the homicides.
They only tell you who is the victim of the homicides.
But I thought this was fascinating.
During the coronavirus, yet again, when people are locked down.
The LMPD Police Chief Steve Conrad said that 8 of the victims of the 40 homicide victims across the Metro Louisville area were black boys under the age of 18.
And Mr. Taylor, he was quoted as saying this.
Quote, schools, parks, community centers, obviously they are closed.
Basketball rims have been taken down to stop that interaction between people.
Those were all measures aimed at stopping the spread of COVID-19.
Now we've had some challenges between these groups or gangs, whatever you want to call
them, and we're working to address them.
I don't know if I would call it a turf war, but there are definitely challenges between
these two groups.
He's referring to various groups of blacks.
Do you remember Midnight Basketball?
That was supposed to keep people off the streets and make sure they didn't shoot each other.
Maybe the fact that they can't play basketball, that explains this uptick in murder.
What do you think?
I think that's a good idea.
When the rims are down, and again, people are saying, again, we have no idea what's happening.
They're baffled.
They're baffled, yes.
Yeah, I mean, how can this be happening in every city across the country during this lockdown?
Mr. Taylor, we've talked about, just on this program alone, Chicago, violence breaking out still.
We've talked about, in past episodes, Cincinnati.
We've talked about Charlotte, Memphis, Atlanta, New York City.
There is a certain consistency.
And there is a certain consistency in the way people seek for certain kinds of explanations.
I have to call our listeners' attention to an article that appeared in Forbes Magazine just last week.
I think it should have been called PPP Racism.
That was not its title, but the idea of the Payroll Protection Plan.
Let me quote a few lines from this article.
Will small businesses emerge from quarantine in a state to continue in operation?
According to a recent survey from Color of Change, UnidosUS, and Global Strategy Group.
Now you already know that we've got a survey that's going to come up with probably not the most objective results.
Close to half of Black and Latinx-owned small businesses expect to have to close their doors within six months.
No, no comparable data on white small businesses.
We don't know what the situation is for them.
They deserve to be closed, right?
Well, probably, yes.
Then the article was on, say, almost two-thirds report that they've either received no assistance That's 41%.
Or are still waiting to hear whether they will receive any of this PPP aid.
That's 21%.
Again, no figures for points.
Then a majority, 51%, of black and Latinx small business owners who sought assistance requested less than $20,000 in temporary funding from the federal government.
Well, that's a tragedy.
And only about 1 in 10, 12%, received the exact amount that they requested.
Again, there are no comparable statistics on white small businesses.
Then the question arises, well, how did we get these horrible results?
And this is Forbes speaking.
They say, and this is not quoting some activist, they say, it's pretty simple.
By not prioritizing marginalized communities, they remained marginalized.
That's how implicit bias works, whether conscious or unconscious.
When you claim the rules are neutral, but they clearly apply differently to different sectors of society.
This is one of the most irresponsible things I've ever read in Forbes.
Forbes is generally a fairly level-headed organization, but they say it's simple by not prioritizing marginalized communities.
First of all, they don't give us any differential data.
We don't know what happens with white small business.
We don't know.
But then they say they should have prioritized bailing out the marginalized communities.
And then they talk about this is the way implicit bias works, whether conscious or unconscious.
Well, implicit bias cannot be conscious by definition.
It's implicit.
What's implicit is not conscious.
And they say when you claim the rules are neutral, but they clearly apply differently to different sectors.
There is not a shred of evidence in this story that the rules are applied differently.
None whatsoever!
And I'm sure... Well, then we go on to hear color of change president Rashad Robinson.
He says, the Small Business Administration's Paycheck Protection Program is a driver of racial inequality rather than a means to
provide desperately needed relief for the small businesses at the heart of the black and
brown communities.
Is he suggesting really that SBA is operating in a prejudiced way?
And then here, here's Janet Mujia.
She's someone we have been following for quite some time.
She's now the CEO and President of UnidosUS.
That means United U.S.
I'm sure it's United Hispanics U.S., not United Americans U.S.
She says, this is simply unacceptable.
The next stimulus and relief package must target help to minority-owned businesses and nonprofits so we can save these vital enterprises.
Well, okay, so the next bailout has got to be strictly affirmative action, in other words.
Now, and this is something that she is criticizing, the fact that a May 8th report by the SBA's Inspector General According to that report, the SBA failed to adequately guide the prioritization of underserved businesses to its lending partners, which led to the stark disparities in who was funded.
To compound this, the report notes the SBA failed to require demographic data to identify PPP borrowers.
So, what we're saying is, Because we didn't even know the race of the applicant.
We were unable to discriminate in their favor.
They're blaming the SBA for not even knowing who these people were.
Somehow the SBA, whether by clairvoyance Or by some kind of act of God, we're supposed to figure out who the applicants were, discover that they were Latinx or black, and somehow prioritize serving them?
Commit racial discrimination in their favor?
And here, we're back to President Rashad Robinson of Color of Change.
Corporate banks must be held accountable for the way they spend taxpayer money.
We cannot let them off the hook for rampant discrimination.
We've just heard from the SBA Inspector General there was absolutely no way they could have been discriminating in favor of whites because they didn't know the race of the applicant.
In other words, if all people go through the same process, And we don't know whether black small businesses are suffering more than white small business in terms of whether or not they're getting PPP money, but there is no way they could have been discriminated against.
He's saying corporate banks who handle this money have to be, they can't be off the hook for the rampant discrimination that they practiced.
I mean, this is almost a textbook case of the most slanted and despicable reporting.
But here it is in Forbes.
As I say, I've generally had a fairly high opinion for the way Forbes treats data, and this is really something of a low point for them.
But I guess I'm just too conscious of data and trying to use it in a fair way.
This is simply a way to say that America, once again, as you said, we are seething with white supremacy, with institutional racism, and everything that's ever gone wrong.
If these businesses go out of business in six months or less, it'll be our fault all over again.
Mr. Taylor, Wells Fargo, SunTrust, BB&T.
I know they just merged.
I forgot the name of what their new company is based in Charlotte.
Bank of America, all these banks want to be able to lend to minority-owned small businesses because then they can tout their commitment to diversity and to multiculturalism.
This is what they live for.
This gets them brownie points.
Every corporation...
I go back to just a silly anecdote.
If you recall during the gay marriage debate in Indiana, Salesforce was based in Indianapolis and they were going to leave.
And because Indiana wanted to, under Mike Pence, Governor Mike Pence, they wanted to have a religious liberty bill passed or something.
And they said, hey, listen, we'll just leave.
You know, there's a new party coming, the party of the CEO.
And that mindset doesn't just go with gender issues, transgender issues, it goes to racial issues as well.
And these massive publicly traded banks that are getting unbelievably huge cash infusions from the bailout that happened a couple months ago.
They want to be able to lend to as many minority-owned organizations as possible.
Yes, but the idea here that the SBA is being criticized for not collecting racial data and for not discriminating in favor of non-whites, and the fact that this did not happen means that they were guilty of rampant discrimination.
When they didn't even have the information to discriminate if they wanted to.
It just takes your breath away, but I suppose we should be astonished at nothing these days.
Well, you hate the term.
You hate the term.
But I'm going to throw it out there again.
It's black-run America for a reason.
Blacks don't run America, but America is run for the benefit of blacks every day.
Well, we have other things that are unbelievable going on in Atlanta.
Tell us.
Hotlanta!
Yeah, you know, Atlanta, again, we have a city where, you know, the mayor is doing everything she can to keep things shut down, even though Georgia is one of the first states to open up during this COVID-19 crisis, to the credit of Governor Kemp.
Well, one of the things that we might not see shut down Illegal street racing.
So while Atlanta street racers burn up the city's semi-empty roads doing stunts for crowds of hundreds, Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms is considering designating a racing spot instead so that this illegal street racing can actually be somewhat state-sanctioned street racing.
She said that on the recommendation that she heard from Bloomberg Philanthropies as well as one of her sons is to consider a designated space for this otherwise illegal street racing in the city.
She said this, quote, that's something we will explore and keep you posted.
But meanwhile, we will continue to monitor these those racing hotspots in the city.
Now, of course, state law in Georgia bans street racing.
Although I'm sure a lot of longtime listeners might remember that great show, The Dukes of Hazzard.
You know, of course, that doesn't exist anymore because the General Lee had a Confederate flag on it, and that was in Hazzard County, so nowhere near Atlanta.
But again, Mayor Keisha Bottoms wants to do everything she can because all of the people that were arrested at this event happen to be black.
And if you watch some of the local news broadcasts, you would see all of the young black faces that were regrettably arrested.
You know, they didn't deserve to be arrested because of these arcane, you know, Archaic rules?
Well, you know, it's just another one of those examples.
If you crack down on turnstile hopping, for example, in the subway, and all the people who got picked up in the dragnet turn out to be black and Hispanic, well, then you decide that you're just not going to enforce the law.
This is another perfect example of certain groups not willing to abide by the law, and instead of enforcing the law, you change the law.
Yeah, I mean, think about the insurance risk that this would cause for the city if there was an accident and people died.
And then what would happen with the city on the hook to have to pay for this?
Well, you know, I think what about the insurance companies themselves?
What about the vehicles, the drivers?
I think an insurance company would be absolutely legitimately justified in finding out somebody who participates in these things and charging considerably higher rates.
But then that would be a disparate impact, right?
No, so no.
So no, we would have to charge everyone higher rates in Atlanta area.
There you go.
Well, yet another way to avoid disparate impact.
Laws against street drag racing, laws against fair beating.
This is a different example of this thing, but here we have the SAT and ACT, the tests whereby people are judged whether they are fit material for admissions to university.
Well, all of those who believe that those tests are inherently racially biased We'll be delighted to learn that the University of California Board of Regents decided last week, at the urging of UC President Janet Napolitano, we used to hear quite a lot about her, but she's an academic now, to stop using SAT and ACT college admissions examinations for everyone.
Stop.
Finish.
Now, the system is the largest in the entire United States, and given its size and prestige, The fact that the UC system is abolishing this kind of objective testing will give the whole idea of eliminating the SAT and ACT entirely a very strong boost.
And just as a little footnote, I would like to remind our listeners that back in 1996, this was something that might not happen today, But in 1996, there was a ballot initiative known as Proposition 209.
And this ended affirmative action.
The people of California said, no more of this racial preferences stuff.
But this is clearly, and in some cases explicitly, a way to get it back.
Because the SAT, ACT, the standardized testing has a disparate impact on blacks.
And by eliminating it, then they can have other ways, other ways to justify getting blacks and Hispanics Would not do very well into the UC system.
Now moving from California clear across the country to New York.
I don't know, Mr. Kersey, whether or not you were reading the New York Times over the weekend, but on May 23rd, Saturday, Memorial Day, there was an essay by the editorial board.
This is not some solitary fanatic who hates the United States, hates the military, and hates white people.
This is the New York Times editorial board sitting en banc, as they say, of the appeals court.
This represents the entire voice of the New York Times.
And it had an article.
It published this editorial.
It goes, why does the U.S.
military celebrate white supremacy?
Did you know the U.S.
military celebrates white supremacy, Mr. Kersey?
I was totally unaware.
Totally unaware.
Well, this is what you find out when you read the New York Times.
Let me quote.
A toxic legacy clings to the 10 United States military installations across the South that were named for Confederate Army officers during the first half of the 20th century.
That's the main thing.
That is celebrating white supremacy.
It goes on to describe these Confederate officers.
It says, these men were traitors.
These rebel officers who were willing to destroy the United States to keep black people in chains are synonymous with the racist ideology that drove them to treason.
Of course, they weren't interested in destroying the United States.
They wanted to let the United States be fine.
That's right.
They had no desire.
They just wanted to secede.
Then they say that military installations with these names celebrate white supremacist traitors.
They're going to say these are an embarrassing artifact of the time when the military itself embraced anti-American values.
By that they mean segregation.
It's long time for those bases to be renamed.
Now, anti-American values.
Well, if those are the values of the Americans at the time, it's hard to describe them as anti-Americans.
Now, I'd like to point out that if we took this same argument, the Founding Fathers were racist traitors.
They were largely slave owners, and they committed treason against the crown.
And as we have said many, many times, if you take this logic of the Confederates and apply it to the Founding Fathers, it fits, it fits almost perfectly.
So, logically, Jefferson and Washington, their days are numbered too.
Now, in terms of these 10 U.S.
military installations that have the names of Confederate Army officers, the U.S.
Army has a way of naming local installations from local people.
And if you have bases in the South, they name them for Southerners.
This is also, at the time, this was early in the 20th century, this was considered a reconciliation gesture.
Precisely.
Yes, that was back in the days when the fact of having been a confederate was not an absolutely unforgivable blot on the discussion.
And another thing that I would point out, Memorial Day, which was the celebration was the weekend in which this attack on whites and attack on the military took place.
It was originally Decoration Day.
It was established to honor the graves of people who fought on both sides of the war between the states.
It was renamed Memorial Day in 1967 because by then we had a lot more wars to memorialize, not just the Civil War.
And it's also worth pointing out There are these 10 military installations.
Do you know how many military bases and installations there are in the United States?
How many?
I'm going to guess 220.
There are 420.
Wow.
420.
That we know of.
Yes.
Yes.
That's an awful lot.
10 are named for Confederates, including Robert E. Lee.
Can't have that.
No.
Braxton Bragg.
I mean, Braxton Bragg was not exactly one of the best Confederate generals.
In any case, these are all a terrible, terrible problem.
Now, the New York Times story actually quotes the phrase, Lincoln implored Americans to show malice towards none and
charity towards all.
Wow.
How on earth can they have quoted that phrase in an article that is dripping with malice and has no charity whatsoever?
It's astonishing that this phrase should appear in an article of that kind.
Well, because white supremacists don't deserve charity.
They only deserve malice.
And they take that as axiomatic, Mr. Taylor.
Well, of course, by today's standards, Lincoln himself was a frothing, raving, lunatic white supremacist.
But they didn't go into that either.
If I may be so bold real quick, I would argue that you could even state that anything predating July 26, 1948, which is when Harry S. Truman issued Executive Order 9981, which desegregated the U.S.
military.
Remember, we won World War II with a segregated military.
The Great War.
The Great War.
Segregation.
A terrible shame.
Now, this was not just, this was a double whammy against Memorial Day and the military, because on Memorial Day itself, there was a New York Times article called, African Americans are highly visible in the military, but almost invisible at the top.
And it had a photograph of President Trump and his top four-star generals and admirals.
And this picture, according to the New York Times, showed the president surrounded by a sea of white faces in full dress uniform.
It added that of the 41 most senior commanders in the military, those with four-star ranks in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard, Only two are black.
And then they go on to moan about racism with the military down the rise, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Well, the fact that there are so few blacks in the top ranks, and that's really all they're concerned about.
They don't really care much about Hispanics, don't care much about Asians.
They're really concerned about blacks.
The article did, in fact, touch lightly, lightly, lightly on the fact that blacks almost never go into the combat arms.
Combat arms, mainly infantry, used to be artillery was considered a combat arm and way to the top, but blacks don't go into the military because they want to fight.
That's almost exclusively a white interest.
They go in because they want to learn how to be a truck mechanic or radio operator.
They want to learn some sort of professional skill.
And that's generally what they do.
But just because you're an expert truck mechanic, that does not mean that you're likely to make a four-star general.
It's the people who know something about fighting wars who make it to the top.
But in this article, in this article that was just moaning and moaning and moaning about how awful it was to be black, I did learn something new.
I learned something new and valuable.
The latest aircraft carrier to be given a name.
It's on order and it will probably launch in 2030.
These things take quite a while.
It's going to be named the Doris Miller.
The Doris Miller.
Is that a familiar name to you?
I bet it's.
It is a familiar name.
It actually is.
It is?
Well, you are a well-informed, you are a very well-informed man.
Now Doris, as our listeners will imagine, is In fact, not the name of a woman.
Doris was a man.
And this man named Doris Miller got the name because the midwife who assisted his mother was convinced the baby was going to be a girl.
Now, Doris is one of our African-American fellow citizens, and you would expect that once the baby was born, you could have decided on the spot that it was not a girl, but maybe the melanin hats do things differently from the rest of us.
In any case, Doris Miller He grew up to be a strapping lad, and he was working as a mess attendant on the battleship West Virginia the morning of December 7th, 1941, which is the attack on Pearl Harbor.
And he apparently behaved quite heroically.
He was asked to go to the bridge and help bring out the wounded commanding officer who died later of his wounds.
He also was given on-the-spot instructions how to fire machine guns against enemy planes.
He'd never done that before.
He blazed away, and he was awarded the Navy Cross.
He is going to be honored by having an aircraft carrier named after him.
Now, he died in 1943 serving on a ship that was sunk by a Japanese submarine.
So, yes, he did distinguish himself.
He was a good sailor and more power to him.
But to name an aircraft carrier after him?
In the same war, a white man, Roy Davenport, oh, and I should add, he was awarded the Navy Cross.
This is the second highest distinction for a Navy serviceman.
And he was, as I say, he got a Navy Cross.
Well, in the same war, white man, Roy Davenport, won five Navy Crosses.
Yes.
And Chesty Puller, the most decorated Marine in American history, he won five Navy Crosses and an Army Distinguished Service Cross.
They're not having aircraft carriers named after them, no sir.
And I was just curious to know how frequently are Navy Crosses handed out?
And during the Vietnam War, 491 were given out.
So I don't know how many were given out during the Second World War, but there must have been a large number of them.
We're going to have an aircraft carrier along with the distinguished names that they usually carry.
We're going to have one called the Doris Miller.
So, I'm sure there will be a great celebration among our African American fellow citizens when that champagne bottle is cracked.
If America even exists in 2030, Mr. Taylor.
I know that sounds crazy, but remember, Pat Buchanan's name of his 2012 book was Suicide of a Superpower.
Will America survive until 2025?
And as you and I are speaking right now, On May 28th, it's about, we'll say 4 o'clock Eastern, riots have broken out in St.
Paul.
There are four, a Target has been completely vandalized, a Verizon, a Noodles & Company, and a Vitamin Shop are all being ransacked.
You can go back and watch all this.
This is broad daylight, guys.
There are no, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Taylor, there are no cops around.
The festivities continue.
Well, great.
Yeah, the Twin Cities.
Okay, well, we will be back next week, and it will be a great honor and a pleasure to speak to all of you.
And stay tuned and keep your eyes on Minneapolis-St.
Paul.
So, for Jared Taylor, this has been Paul Kersey.
We thank you for your time today.
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