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April 3, 2020 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the latest episode of Radio Renaissance.
I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance, and with me, of course, is Mr. Paul Carnegie.
These are certainly strange times.
They remind me of that novel by Gabriel Garcia Marquez called Love in the Time of Corona.
Love in the Time of Cholera, I beg your pardon.
Slip of the tongue.
And then there was, of course, that remarkable piece by Daniel Defoe, Journal of the Plague Year.
These are most unusual times.
And when the coronavirus began to dominate the news, I was wondering what that effect would have on our podcast.
Because we do have a certain angle on things, and I thought that angle would get squeezed out.
But as a matter of fact, that angle is increasingly squeezed in.
Just about every story about this wonderful little virus does have an angle of the kind that interests us and our listeners.
But in any case, I hope all of you are practicing good hygiene, staying safe.
I'm happy to report that everyone on the American Renaissance staff is doing just fine.
And as far as I can tell, Mr. Kersey is doing fine, too.
Wash those hands, ladies and gentlemen.
Yes.
Now, I'd like to start off with a heartwarming story from New York City, where the virus is raging.
But we have to go back to 2018 to get to the beginning of this story.
It has to do with a fellow named Pedro Venente Barcilla.
Well, Mr. Venente Barcilla, in 2018, he was terrorizing his girlfriend, Bernice Rosado, for months.
And he finally tracked her to a cell phone repair shop in Harlem where she worked and repeatedly stabbed her in the chest and back.
This gruesome attack was captured on surveillance video and witnessed by many bystanders.
Well, after the cops nailed him, he said, is she dead?
I hope so.
Well, this fellow has a record of displaying affection to his girlfriends in unusual ways.
Back in 1993, Mr. Vinent Barcia was arrested in Florida for stabbing a girlfriend and biting off a piece of her ear.
Well, as it turns out, legal aid lawyer Corey Stoughton in New York City, where, as I say, the virus is raging, he filed court papers saying that Mr. Vinent Barcia has cardiovascular disease, pulmonary disease, and type 2 diabetes, and, and I quote, as a result of his medical conditions and age, he is 63, Mr. Vinit Barsi is at high risk for severe illness or death if he contracts COVID-19, and State Supreme Court Justice Mark Dwyer agreed, and he freed this murderer.
Pedro is out back on the streets, adding to the excitement of our times.
Just thought I'd start with that heartwarming story.
And similar things are happening in Houston.
Harris County, that is the county that contains Houston, Harris County Judge Lena Hidalgo, she has a plan to release about 1,000 inmates from the county jail during the virus pandemic.
And the plan was announced after one inmate was tested positive.
And Judge Lena said just on Tuesday that there were about 8,000 inmates in the Harris County Jail and they don't have an opportunity for social distancing.
And she said it's a ticking time bomb that has the potential to be, quote, epicenter of a catastrophe.
So, she wants 1,000 of the 8,000 turned loose.
So that they can breathe the air and stretch their wings and keep social distancing.
Well, Houston's police chief, Art Acevedo, he said that Judge Lena did not discuss any of this with him.
He says he's opposed to it and he pointed out.
And I thought this is one of the few interesting facts I've seen about crime in the wake of what's going on.
He says there's been a 20% increase in business burglaries For the month over the previous year.
And you can understand why.
All these people that are not being occupied, 20% increase in burglars, and he says he hopes very much that Judge Lena Hidalgo will not be turning burglars loose.
And furthermore, The police chief says he has prepared a declaration for lawsuit in federal court that details his position as to why this has got to be overturned.
But these are the kinds of reactions we're seeing.
All of this worry about the poor darlings in jail might perhaps get the virus.
So they're going to turn them loose.
So in case they get the virus, they can burgle your house and infect you instead.
But now I understand, Mr. Kersey, you have a Maryland story for us.
Yeah, we can talk about Maryland.
It's funny, that same police chief from Houston actually asked criminals not to commit crime to stay home and chill.
I'd like to throw that story out there.
We're seeing a lot of police chiefs nationwide actually implore the citizens, of which they are public servants, to stay at home and not commit crime during this time period.
Yes, I've been seeing a fair amount of that too.
I imagine what they're going to do is stay at home and chill their beer.
I don't think they're going to chill and keep the crime down.
But, you know, it sounds as though that people have a sense of humor.
In fact, I believe it was some Texas police department put out what was obviously a humorous request saying, you know, you're on notice now that you can't commit crime until we let you know.
And so stay home, boys.
But I don't even understand this mentality.
Imploring criminals to obey the law?
Hey, just wait till after the coronavirus to commit crime.
Come on.
At that point, you'll be fine.
You'll be good to go.
But just wait.
Not right now.
That's right.
And some of our boys are sick.
Give us time to shake off the virus and get back and fight and trim.
And then we'll duke it out as usual.
But hey, chill for now.
Well, the story you just segued to is one out of Baltimore.
Baltimore Sun published on March 30th.
The headline, kind of innocuous, Lawmakers Push for Racial Breakdown in Maryland's Public Coronavirus Data.
Seek to Spot Disparities Early.
When I saw this story, that headline struck out.
Disparities.
Because we know when disparities, it always has something to do with racial or gender.
It's some sort of phony discrimination.
And sure enough, Nick Mosby.
He, of course, is the husband of Marilyn Mosby, the state's attorney, who has been doing everything she can to help out criminals in that city during the coronavirus crisis.
I think we spoke about her maybe three episodes ago?
So as you're at home, as you're social distancing, go back a couple episodes if you want to hear about Marilyn Mosby, but her husband, he is going after implicit bias of white doctors.
Here's what he said when it comes to the need for a breakdown of cases by race.
He's one of the lawmakers who believes this information about the pandemic is vital so that state officials can monitor if any disparities exist in, you know, i.e.
Are black communities being hit too hard and does this prove that discrimination exists within the medical community?
Here's his quote, Mr. Taylor and dear listener.
Quote, we've always known that historically there's been health disparities in communities of color.
It's important to get ahead of it.
And then he would go on and he would say, oh, it's even a better quote.
It's down at the bottom of the story.
They buried the best part.
It's about implicit bias.
Well, while you're hunting for it, this reminds me of the theory that so many blacks had that guns were being smuggled into the ghetto by the CIA, and that it was the U.S.
government that had turned AIDS loose in the black communities.
Do you remember that?
I do.
That's in that great book, Heard It on the Grapevine.
Yes, yes.
I think that's actually, there's a review of that book on amrin.com, so as all of our listeners are at home and they've got plenty of time on their hands, they're chilling because they're not committing crimes in Houston, They can check and they can read a great review of that book.
Here's Mosby's quote, though.
He said, the article goes on to note that communities of color face documented disparities that could exacerbate the impact of the new coronavirus.
Blacks in America suffer higher rates of asthma and diabetes, the kinds of underlying health conditions that could put patients at a greater risk of COVID-19, or as you and I called it last week, the China virus or the Kung flu complications.
Here's Mosby's quote.
He said that health care workers, quote, Imperial communities already on the front lines of multiple public health threats.
Quote, because of the stress that this pandemic will place on hospital capacity, soon residents will not be able to walk into hospital emergency rooms for screening.
This will have an adverse impact on populations who are less likely to have insurance and primary care physicians.
End quote.
Mr. Taylor, you probably remember the mayor of Baltimore, the 70% black metropolis, Jack Young, he asked the black residents of the city to stop shooting each other.
I remember.
He says you've got to leave beds open for people who might have the virus.
And you know, I bet you any amount of money in the city of Baltimore, it's probably true.
Blacks are more likely to get the virus or there are going to be more black virus victims than there are white victims. And as you just
pointed out, why? What is it? 70% of the city's black?
Well, it stands to reason. But if that happens, if that happens, I bet Nick Mosby's gonna blame racism.
Well, you know, buried at the bottom of this article in the Baltimore Sun, it actually included this concluding
paragraph.
Early in the pandemic, some people spouted a myth that blacks can't contract the virus.
Some black community organizers said they must combat such misinformation and apathy as they fight the disease's spread in their neighborhoods.
Well, who gave them that idea?
Racist white people, I'm sure.
Racist white doctors.
Yeah, as you point out, yes, he is the husband of Marilyn Mosby.
She's the one who threw bread and circuses to the crowds back in 2015 while they were rioting and wanted the police indicted because of Freddie Gray, which she did, of course, and didn't get a single conviction.
This black judge basically threw out every single one of those cases.
But it was her fellow black sister, Stephanie Rawlings, who really made the headlines at that time, Unfortunately, the only thing that's been memorialized in Baltimore is the Freddie Gray Community Center that bears the name of the heroin dealer who was responsible for the 2015 riots.
city of Baltimore, you know, put up a big statue of her with that right at the base.
Unfortunately, the only thing that's been memorialized in Baltimore is the Freddie Gray
Community Center that bears the name of the heroin dealer who was responsible for the
2015 riots. And I was thinking about something, Mr. Taylor, before we leave Baltimore. You
know, they're not playing any sporting events right now nationwide because obviously social
distancing and the fear of people contracting, passing the coronavirus on.
But do you remember what happened in April of 2015?
Yes, for the first time ever, a professional baseball game was played in an empty stadium because the city of Baltimore could not guarantee the safety of the spectators.
We're coming up on the fifth year anniversary of that ignoble historical feat.
But you know, Stephanie Rawlings, you know, that just jogged my memory the other day.
Back at the time of the Crown Heights riot in 1991 in Brooklyn.
This was a bunch of blacks who got a little frisky.
At that time, New York had a black mayor, David Dinkins.
And he ordered the police to hold back to let the protesters In his words, blow off a little steam.
Blow off a little steam.
Well, in the process of blowing off a little steam, they killed a guy and they burnt some things and, you know, they beat up a lot of people.
But in any case, I guess Stephanie Rawlings Blake was only 21 at the time and does not remember that.
So, you know, we have to learn the lessons from the past by recreating all of their same mistakes.
But now, Seattle.
Seattle has very important police priorities during this corona crisis.
Carmen Best.
Yet another.
Sista.
She is a Sista.
Melanin heavily enhanced.
She used her most recent Chiefs Brief.
She made a video.
Her Chiefs Brief come in the form of videos.
It was all about the coronavirus and she urged residents to dial 9-1-1 if they are not a victim of assault, not a victim of rape, not a victim of battery, but if they're a victim of racist name-calling.
Yes, yes, call 9-1-1 if somebody calls you a bad name.
And she called upon the expertise of a former local news anchor, Lori Matsukawa.
Matsukawa, good Irish name.
And she said, hate crimes have no place in our community.
We are all trying to deal with the COVID-19 public health crisis together.
If you are a victim of a hate crime or hate-based harassment, Please call 9-1-1.
Yes, just being called a bad name.
And as Chief Best goes on to say, we will document and investigate every reported hate crime.
Even racist name calling should be reported to the police.
You know, that's not even a crime.
I can call you any number of bad words, but that's simply not a crime.
But I guess Seattle, people are making all sorts of new rules these days in the age of the coronavirus, and I guess they've decided that the First Amendment has been suspended.
And if you call somebody a bad name, then you are committing a crime and you should call 911.
Those guys are just sitting on their hands after all.
You know the police got nothing to do.
They'll come rushing around and take a statement and probably even make a recording of you repeating all of these horrible names that you've been called.
You know, Mr. Taylor, I've got to bring up a couple points real quick here.
Seattle, what's fascinating, is one of the whitest big cities in America still.
It's about 68% white.
68% white. It's even whiter if you include Hispanic whites.
And one of the things that I found fascinating looking at a lot of these cities,
how many of America's largest cities now have black female police commissioners or police chiefs?
Yes, it is odd, isn't it?
And why in Seattle of all things?
I was thinking the same thing.
How did they get a black lady police chief?
Well, you know, I guess they are just this unsung and unappreciated minority that has all of this policing talent.
You know, it's about time.
It's really about time the Silicon Valley woke up.
Because I'm sure the situation is the same in programmers.
The top programmers, you know, they're always making this terrible mistake.
They overlook all this immense talent in the form of blacks, in the form of women.
And, you know, they really got to get on the stick and do like all these cities and hire black women to be their programmers.
Well, you know, their first act, of course, would be just like a police commissioner outlaw in Philadelphia.
They'd have to make sure that their fingernails when it came to typing away on the computer keyboard was, of course, a non-discrimination policy that had to be implemented.
Indeed, indeed.
But, you know, you just mentioned the Houston mayor asking the criminals to chill, and I suggested they'd be chilling their beer.
Well, there are some people who just don't believe that's going to happen.
And I see this happening really all around the country in the form of apparently boarded up stores.
The high-end stores, the Gucci's and Louis Vuitton's and the Tiffany's and all those places, they're boarding up their windows.
This has been happening in San Francisco, Chicago, Washington DC, and the Washington Post
mentioned the fact that you know there's some of these slick stores, you see a whole string of
them all boarded up, and let me quote from the Washington Post's account of this.
The precautions have caught the attention of community leaders who worry that the newly
forbidding exteriors will create the impression that their neighborhoods are plagued with crime.
You know, I think probably locals had that impression even before the stores got boarded up.
But, you know, I guess what this tells us is that people just don't believe it when the police say to the folks, don't burgle, don't do anything, don't be chill.
People just don't believe it.
They're just of little faith.
Now, I was wondering to myself, do you think in Seoul, Korea, they boarded up stores?
Do you think in Tokyo they boarded up stores?
Do you think in Budapest they're boarding up stores?
No.
I will ask you to guess.
In what other major capital are they boarding up high-end stores?
Paris.
You know, I don't know for sure.
I suspect that's entirely possible, but they're doing it for sure in London.
In majority-minority London, yes.
That's right.
I can see Paris.
I can see maybe Barcelona.
You know, obviously in Italy, I think, a lot of the problems you've seen.
You see these great videos.
On Voice of Europe, where everybody is adhering to the stay-at-home orders, except for who?
Well, except for certain people.
Yes, there is a strange pattern to that, that we're not allowed to notice.
Very strange, very strange.
Especially in Seattle, we'd be, someone would call the authorities on us.
Yep, that's right, that's right.
But, you know, I've got another heartwarming story, really genuinely heartwarming.
Did you know that in The state of Minnesota.
There's something called the Arab and Muslim Women's Research and Resource Institute.
Arab and Muslim Women's Research and Resource Institute.
Now, according to something called the Wisconsin Muslim Journal, and I bet you didn't know there was such a thing as the Wisconsin Muslim Journal.
Well, there is.
It says that the Arab and Muslim Women's Research and Resource Institute Now, three years ago, it's got its start with an initial project that consists of gathering oral histories from first, second, and third generation Arab and Muslim immigrants with a concentration on women and how they cope with disabilities.
That's first, second, and third generation.
I'm sure they're eagerly awaiting for the opportunity to interview the fourth generation.
But the fourth generation apparently hasn't showed up in sufficient numbers yet.
Now, and this group has created a digital archive of all these interviews with people who, there's Muslim and Arab women with disabilities.
Although, this group, they've really started, they've really learned the lingo.
They don't talk about disabilities.
They talk about with different abilities.
As if everybody else has exactly the same abilities.
You and I have identical abilities, right?
We don't have different abilities, but no.
They talk about different abilities.
You've got a digital archive for researchers and healthcare professionals to tune in.
Now, they have teamed up with the Milwaukee Muslim Women's Coalition.
The Milwaukee?
In Wisconsin?
Yes, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Yes.
All right.
To create the Differences of Ability and U.S.
Muslim Survey, which aims to, quote, understand their experiences and needs.
Now, you will be heartened to know that this important work is being carried out with the help of a grant from Marquette University.
Now, I wonder what Marquette students loaded with student debt.
Think about the way Marquette is spending university money.
But in any case, Marquette University is funding this important project, and the Wisconsin Humanities Council has also provided research grants to support this essential work to go along with the grant from Marquette.
Now, the only reason I tie this in to the current period is That the Arab and Muslim Women's Research and Research Resource Institute has had to cancel two events in March, and guess why?
The China virus.
That's right.
This important initiative is being hampered and harassed by the China virus.
And I bet it's one of these cases in which they think, uh-oh, that was bad.
Somehow it's our fault.
Somehow it's bound to be our fault.
But on the question of what's our fault, I was intrigued to learn that there are those who say that this $2.2 trillion bailout should include certain people that it apparently does not.
You've got the lowdown on that, right?
I do have a lowdown on that.
You know, there are a number of groups, just like some of these Muslim advocacy groups in, of all places, Milwaukee and Minneapolis.
Definitely, definitely post-America cities now, it seems.
There are a number of organizations that believe that the Trump checks, the potentially $1,200 checks that are being mailed out as we speak across the country to taxpayers, should also go to illegal aliens.
Let me play devil's advocate.
They can't go home, right?
The border is closed.
They can't go home.
Now, on the other hand, you could say, well, they're pretty good at hopping the fence.
If they can hop it one way, they can hop it the other way, right?
I'll even go further with the devil's advocacy before we continue.
What's going to stop them from sending those Sending that money back via, what is it, Western Union?
Or how do people remit the money?
What's to stop them from taking that $1,200 and sending it to Mexico?
Nothing.
In 2017, $30 billion was remitted back to Mexico from the United States.
$17 billion, Mr. Taylor, went to China.
China.
$17 billion.
And it doesn't go in cash in paper bags either.
No.
They've got better ways of doing it.
So, here's the dealio with the story, if I can use that phrase, as we're quarantined here.
For gosh, this is what, is this the third week of being quarantined?
You know, I've lost count.
I don't even know what day it is.
You know, here it is, the fourth month of 2020, April 2nd.
And, you know, I guess people nationwide are probably thinking the same thing.
But as we continue with the program today, know this.
United We Dream, the National Immigrant Justice Center, and the National Immigration Law Center, these groups are all clamoring for relief checks, for those Trump checks.
To be routed to those of any and all status in the United States.
Aren't these people always saying that they have to be in the shadows?
How are we supposed to get their addresses?
That's something that I'm curious about.
It all depends, does it not, on how much money you made in the previous year.
We haven't filed in 2019 already, that's correct.
Yes, how many of these illegals even filed an income tax?
It seems to me that even if, even if, and this is a horrible thought, even if the Trump administration were absolutely clamoring to splash out dough to people who are here illegally, A number of them would hesitate to make themselves known because, as I say, they'd have to talk about how much money they made last year, or they'd have to tell you where they live, what their addresses are.
We'll see.
I mean, if they're afraid even to answer a census question, then what would they think about?
Well, you know, do you think they'd overcome their scruples if it was a matter of getting $1,200 in a free money check?
Well, just imagine if they have children as well.
With the birthright citizenship, if they have any children, they're automatically Americans, and they're entitled to that $500 Trump check.
Here's what the National Immigration Justice Center tweeted out on March 27th.
Quote, Everyone, regardless of immigration status, must have access to testing, medical care, and financial relief.
Congress must ensure that all Americans can focus on keeping their families and communities safe and healthy.
Wait, wait, wait.
Didn't you say all Americans?
That's right.
As soon as they get here, whether they speak English or not, whether they're here legally or not, they are Americans.
Isn't that the message?
Magic dirt!
Exactly.
Again, and going back to what you were talking about, what's really interesting about this when it comes to how would you get the check to illegal aliens?
Would it go through these advocacy groups that they could get their cut of it?
This really just begs the question, with what's happening with, what, 6 million, 10 million people having to file unemployment the past two weeks due to the China virus and the shutdown of the economy, why doesn't President Trump just issue an executive order on E-Verify right now?
How hard would this be?
It would be easy.
It would be easy.
It's not monumental steps to make America great again, Mr. Taylor.
It's little simple things.
E-Verify.
Boom.
You know, it's the left that is always saying, never let a crisis go to waste.
And they're doing that right now.
All of these people are saying, let all the criminals out.
Let all the people in ICE detention centers out.
They are making the most of this crisis.
Why can't Donald Trump?
Yeah, it's, you know, I did see one thing did happen today.
It's not on our notes to talk about, but they are ceasing, they are stopping any more H-1B handouts through the DHS, which the Department of Homeland Security was going to continue.
And a lot of people are thanking Tucker Carlson, who spent a long portion of his program last evening, April 1st, talking about this very issue and making the case to President Trump, you've got to put an end to this.
You're going to bring in 85,000 plus people who are going to be competing with Americans for jobs at a time where, what?
10 million people are unemployed and that number could continue to rise as this quarantine continues.
It's hard to imagine that anybody with an IQ of more than that of a fried egg could even dream of bringing in people on H-1B visas at a time like this.
It's astonishing.
Well, I'm glad that Tucker Carlson is pointing out the obvious.
But let's see.
This whole question of the virus has really revived borders in a very gratifying way.
I did a whole video about that for those of you out there who pay attention to my videos.
And I'm just so pleased the way even among the Europeans, the people who had abolished their own internal borders, the Schengen Group, the 26 countries in that group, even they are re-establishing borders.
You can't go from France to Italy.
You can't go from Italy to France.
Too bad.
Too bad.
Despite the fact that they're all Europeans and they're all in it together and they all love each other.
No, no, no.
When push comes to shove, it's France for the French.
Italy for the Italians and Germany for the Germans.
And I have a little section here that if I were entitling these things, I would entitle it, Open Borders People Eat Crow.
And let us start with President Emmanuel Macron of France.
On March 10th, he claimed that Slovenia and Austria had made bad decisions by severely restricting travel with Italy.
Well, Just a week later, France closed its border to every nation in Europe.
So, Emmanuel Macron, seven days later, changed his mind.
Now, the European Commission President, Ursula von der Leyen, she is one of these just intolerably, just, you know, she's one of these people, whatever she says, if you say the opposite, you know you're right.
I disapprove of her very existence.
Oh, that's going a little far.
I will permit her to exist.
I just wish she would not say anything.
But on March 13th, she said she was against countries closing their borders.
And then again, less than a week later, the EU issued a general travel ban on all its external borders.
So she either changed her mind or she was overruled.
And then, I bet you can't name the head of the World Health Organization.
Oh, isn't he Ethiopian?
I've seen his name a lot, I can't think of it though right now.
Yes, he's an Ethiopian, and his name is Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.
So, you are excused for not knowing his name.
Knowing that he was Ethiopian, you get full marks for knowing who's running the World Health Organization.
Well, China's running it, of course, but anyways, I digress.
Yes, he's the titular head.
Now, he's still against any kind of travel ban.
Can you believe that?
And let us quote from Tedros Ghebreyesus.
He says, such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma.
Hmm, he's very stigma sensitive.
And it's interesting to me that a huge survey by Reuters recently found out that citizens all around the world overwhelmingly support Travel bans.
And the Asian countries, which would presumably be the ones who would be suffering all of this fear and stigma, they support border closures higher than anybody else.
I guess they're not too worried about stigma.
And yes, you are right.
He is an Ethiopian.
And he is managing the worldwide fight against the virus.
Now, it's a little bit like these black lady police chiefs in all of these majority white cities.
Why is an Ethiopian running the WHO?
That to me is a mystery, but there are many mysteries in this world.
And then we close with yet another open border person who ate crow, and that was German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
She made, on March 11th, her first public address about the virus.
And she said there would be no border closings for the Vaterland.
Well, one week later, they closed their borders too.
Now, all this says to me, this is a good thing.
This says to me that these people who appear to be just across-the-board idiots are capable of changing their mind.
I'm very gratified by this.
And if they can change their mind on that, let's hope they can change their mind on even more important things.
But, CNN, old Tedros of the WHO will be happy to know, CNN stands with the Ethiopians.
Well, no, this was a few days ago, warned that Trump's travel ban, when he put in the travel ban, that could backfire and have the effect of stigmatizing countries and ethnicities.
Oh boy, we could never have that.
You know, it is just so astonishing the extent to which this is apparently foremost in so many people's minds.
We can't stigmatize.
We can't make any distinctions.
We can't discriminate in the finest, in slightest way.
And is it not the case that San Francisco still is worried about all this, is it not?
They're fighting racism even harder, even harder than they're fighting the virus.
They are.
I'd like to make one point about those countries.
You know the three nations that have the lowest amount of coronavirus in Europe?
In Eastern Europe, are they not?
Hungary, Poland, and Slovakia.
What do all those nations have in common?
Right, right.
Well, they say stay out.
I think Estonia, the Baltics are quite low.
Yeah, they're doing everything right.
They're doing absolutely everything right.
And in fact, my next video is going to be entitled Who do you trust in a crisis?
And I will not allow any guesses at this point as to who gets my vote.
So, no guesses, but to conclude that chapter of this podcast, the more globalist the country, the more vulnerable the citizens.
And remember, New York, the mayor, the mayor was saying, yeah, yeah, we got a lot of the virus because we welcome people.
He's the first to admit it.
Oh boy, ye shall reap what ye shall sow.
But in any case.
Yeah, Mayor Cuomo.
Yes.
You were asking about San Francisco.
Let's go to the other side of the country because it is interesting to think that in the United States, the city that is hit the hardest right now is New York City.
And of course, New York City is a sanctuary city.
Yes.
Correlation?
More than likely.
Well, you know, there's a guy who actually made a little chart A correlation between sanctuary cityhood and the number of cases.
But in order for it to make sense, you'd have to have equally liberal, equally goofy, equally crazy, equally diverse cities.
Ones that were sanctuary and ones that were not.
And I just don't think there are any.
All of the equally goofy, equally liberal, equally welcoming, equally nuts cities probably are sanctuary cities.
So you can't make a real apples-to-apples comparison.
But yes, the two definitely go together.
Well, here's what we get from the New York Times in writing about San Francisco, and the headline of the story is...
San Francisco still prioritizing fighting stigma rather than coronavirus.
This is from Steve Saylor and he noted that the article, how much should the public know about who has the coronavirus?
And the author Thomas Fuller of this New York Times piece notes that amid calls for more transparency, a debate is raging among public health care experts over how much data ...on the spread of the virus should be released.
And what do you think the reason is because of that, Mr. Taylor?
I bet it's because the virus might be associated with certain persons, and that is knowledge we cannot afford.
Just like we cannot afford knowledge of the fact that crime is associated with certain persons.
But am I right or am I wrong?
Oh, you are 100% correct.
The article notes that health departments in the Bay Area make the case that releasing more granular data could heighten discrimination against certain communities where there might be clusters.
The first cases in the Bay Area were among ethnic Chinese residents returning from trips to China.
You know, it is just so funny.
All of this, all of this, all of this constant hooping about transparency, openness, good grief.
Transparency when it suits us, golly.
But you know, the headline in the Times, That's still in there.
It's still fighting racism.
That suggests that the New York Times is not quite sure whether the people in San Francisco are on the side of the angels.
Well, again, we talked about the Baltimore Sun, Nick Mosby.
They're more worried about fighting implicit bias of white doctors and white health care providers than they are in stopping the coronavirus.
And here's a quote from Dr. Rohan Radharakshri.
Harakrishna, he's the Deputy Health Commissioner of Contra Costa County, there across the bay from San Francisco.
Galis said this, quote, pandemics increase paranoia and stigma. We must be extra cautious
in protecting individuals and the community.
Now, Mr. Taylor, you were talking about how we always have to worry about stigma and protecting the community.
Of course, in any other case, when white people can be blamed, the system, the elite, are more than happy to assign blame on whites and white privilege and structural inequalities.
It's always white people's fault.
And then whenever something happens, like the story Let's Slip, well, you know, These ethnic Chinese were over there in China, probably for the Chinese New Year, and they came back and brought it from Wuhan.
Okay, whoops.
That's right.
Pattern recognition works only for white people, even if there's no pattern.
But you know, if the San Francisco people are worried about racism, you know all they have to do?
They can call Chief Best in Seattle.
I'm sure she'll send a trooper down to make sure everything is okay.
Any more on that story?
I mean, that's really quite... Well, what's the New York Times general take on this?
Do they approve of this?
Or do they think that maybe their priority is just a little skewed?
Great question.
The article ends with this very illuminating paragraph.
Quote, the U.S.
approach contrasts sharply with that of Singapore and Taiwan, whose fights against the virus have been praised as among the most effective.
Both governments make public the suspected linkages of cases, anonymized by numbers.
In Singapore, the authorities sometimes list neighborhoods where patients lived, their workplaces, and churches or mosques that they attended.
So, there you go.
Wow!
I mean, this is a remarkably open-eyed story on the part of the Times.
Did you know that in Korea, I understand that you could get an app, you could download a free app, that you could track people who were in fact positive and where they had been.
Now, how's that for stigma?
Well, look, I know you have more You're more of a classical liberal in some senses when it comes to liberty.
In this case, if you are going to fight a virus, instead of closing down your entire economy, I do think we should utilize technologies that can do what you see happening in Singapore and Taiwan.
So you can then.
Well, I agree.
things so that you don't see the type of mass unemployment and the hysteria that
that could create in the coming weeks. Well I agree if you have some really
effective way of knowing where the virus is likely to be or have been or who has
it or where it's likely to be clustering that's interesting.
Not just interesting, that is essential information.
And I am gratified that the New York Times is actually tumbling to something so obvious.
It's startling when the New York Times arrives at a conclusion that reflects such good sense.
Well, that was of course buried.
I mean, again, if you look at the story, the structure of the story, Second paragraph has that information about the first cases were among ethnic Chinese residents returning from trips to China.
Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!
China!
But again, it's buried at the end that, you know what?
These authoritarian governments that put their citizens first, once they were impacted by the China virus, they utilized I would even call it extreme measures.
They utilize sane measures.
And of course, in our country, we could of course be quarantining people as we see this concept of diversity being our greatest strength being stress test while those nations we talked about, Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland, They're all fine, because guess what?
Their governments put their citizens first and their health first, and they don't believe in this witchcraftery that diversity is somehow our greatest strength.
And they're certainly not boarding up their fancy stores in the downtown area.
No, they're not.
No, they're not.
Well, you know, another story here on borders roaring back into relevance.
I was a little bit surprised, pleasantly surprised to find that in the midst of the current crisis,
according to the latest Harvard Harris poll, guess what percentage of the entire United States
population favors ending all immigration from Mexico for the time being?
What do you figure that figure would be?
I'm going to guess that it is definitely a majority.
I would say 65%. 83%!
Eighty-three percent.
Yes.
I'm putting you on the spot here, and if you don't have it, that's okay.
No, I've got it.
Does it break down by political party affiliation?
I've got it.
I've got it.
You want it?
I've got it.
Seventy-five percent of Hispanics and seventy-seven percent of blacks say, keep them all out.
Those racists?
Yeah, yes.
Now, 73% of Democrat voters say they want to stop all immigration from Mexico for the time being.
84% of swing voters and 93% of Republicans.
Now, we don't have a breakout for whites, but I suspect the 93% figure for Republicans is probably pretty close to the figure for whites.
And even among people who characterize themselves as liberals, 70% support ending immigration from Mexico as well as 74% that's three quarters of the voters who voted for Hillary in 2016.
So, You know, you don't have the data on you, but there's one thing that in this woke world that existed, that predated the China virus coming to the United States.
One of the things that we're seeing is how insignificant wokeness really is into our everyday lives.
And I wonder if it actually, if we could see a breakdown of white liberals Versus white conservatives and see if white liberals are closer as well, you know, because we see those, you know One of the themes we've had over the past couple years on this podcast.
Mr. Taylor is the drastic way in which white liberals once viewed illegal immigration or affirmative action and say the 1990s versus today where they used to be against it now they're overwhelmingly for it there, you know that that woke mindset and Well, what this says to me is when the chips are down, even so-called liberals suddenly see sense.
And it's like people when the chips are down and they decide where they are going to live or where they are going to buy a house.
Not even the most crazed, blinkered liberals buy a house In a black neighborhood.
It's an astonishing thing.
And if you have a situation like this, in which people who might be coming across the border actually carry a dangerous disease, all of a sudden, stop them all.
Keep them out.
No.
All it takes is a certain understanding of the vividness of reality.
When it affects people or it has a potential of affecting them in their own lives, even the most crazed liberals see a glint of sunlight.
But, so it looks like good old Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, our Ethiopian who's running the World Health Organization, he wouldn't get much support in the U.S.
for his open borders ideas.
Even blacks, Hispanics, liberals, Democrats.
You know, if I were Tedros, I'd be feeling very unloved.
I think probably the world has come down with a terrible case of anti-Ethiopianism.
I think that's the problem.
Maybe he can cure it.
Perhaps he can.
But you know, the Mexicans actually agree with us.
This is a very interesting story.
Earlier, something happened this week.
Mexican protesters shut down a U.S.
southern border crossing amidst fears that untested American travelers will infect Mexico.
Did you see that story?
I did.
Residents in Sonora, just south of the U.S.
border in Arizona, The state of Sonora and Nogales, they blocked traffic and they promised to keep blocking traffic because all of these potentially infected Americans were coming across.
They wore face masks and they held up signs saying, stay at home.
Now, you know, they may have a point.
Mexico has under a thousand COVID-19 cases.
That we know of.
Again, there's not that much testing going on in Mexico yet.
The Mexican government has had sort of a Brazilian response to it, so to speak.
That is exactly right.
But we don't know, but they haven't made the big deal of it that they have up north.
And despite the fact that the border is supposed to be closed to all except essential businesses, the protesters don't even want these essential people either.
To them there is no business that is essential if the people who are coming across are going to be infecting Mexicans.
So, you know, Mexicans too.
I just love it.
They're saying they want us out.
Maybe they will understand us after this.
This resurgence of borders is so beautiful to me.
But the blockade is being led by members of the group Sonorans for Health and Life.
And they have called for medical testing to be done on anyone who crosses from the U.S.
into Mexico.
And if that starts happening, you know, if you live in one of those places that don't have much the way a test gets, just take a drive south and let the Mexicans test you.
What do you think?
I think that's a fantastic idea.
Look, this whole crisis is showing how fragile the post-World War II world order truly was and truly is.
And it's not going to go away.
And I encourage all of our listeners out there to be talking about just simple ideas such as borders.
You know, you can even just talk about something like Michael Savage's old aphorism of borders, language, culture, and how simple and effective that type of A conversation can be for those who are wondering, you know, gosh, we just shut down our entire economy and Tom down the street, man, he lost his job.
And, and my cousin, my cousin, Tim, gosh, he, he, he's out of a job too right now.
And, and all this, this unemployment, this uncertainty, it's scary.
And you know, all you have to do is say, well, Hey, you know, this wouldn't be happening if we actually controlled our borders.
And we actually were serious about protecting our people's interests first.
And it's sort of that, that light goes off our people, you know, no one, We've all been told for decades, we have to worry about everyone across the world.
Everyone's got to hold hands and sing a Bono song.
But you know what?
No.
We need to be thinking about our people first.
Well, and as I say, this brings out a central and visceral sense in every single group.
Here, what we're seeing that the Mexicans are doing, what the Germans are doing, what the Italians are doing, what everybody's doing.
When the chips are down, it's our group, our family, our nation.
I hate the context in which it's happening, but to see all of this mushrooming, this growth of good sense, common sense, is a beautiful thing.
I'm sorry it took this for it to reappear, but let's hope it doesn't go away like mushrooms after rain.
And I believe you had a story from Australia.
Aren't the stevedores, the longshoremen, showing a certain national preference, even?
Yes, they are.
And I think we're going to see a lot more of this across the world when it comes to made in China being exported to nations across the planet.
Upwards of 60 Australian longshoremen were stood down Tuesday after they refused to unload a container ship from China.
A boat was docked at the DP World Terminal in the Victoria State Capital of Melbourne after leaving Shanghai on March 17th.
Union organizers claim the ship may have been contaminated with coronavirus and should instead be held in quarantine.
Now, this did not happen.
The Maritime Union of Australia says the vessel is in breach of the federal government's 14-day coronavirus quarantine period after it visited a Taiwanese port on March 19th during its voyage to Australia.
So Australia has obviously implemented some very sane and logical, rational, pro-Australian policies when it comes to China and the China virus.
Well, tell me this.
Is this because the people on board could have been infected?
Is that the idea?
They're not talking about the cargoes, are they?
They're talking about everything.
I mean, we do know that the virus does live on surfaces for an indeterminate amount of time right now.
Here's what the workers said.
They said that shaving two days off the quarantine period is, quote, a risk to workers in the community, end quote.
And those who refuse to unload the vessel over concerns about the risk of the China virus, they were sent home.
Now, one of the things that we do know is that in this country of Australia, one of the large clusters of the China virus cases in Australia was the result of inadequate measures put in place for the arrival of ships, including, of course, a cruise ship that was allowed to dock and unload people.
So, there's just a lot of Angst out there, Mr. Taylor.
A lot of people just don't really know what's going on and they do want to see measures put in place that do protect the community.
You know, you use the word angst.
I think I would use the term heightened awareness.
Yes, heightened awareness, a certain rising of consciousness of the importance of borders, of the importance of making distinctions.
I'm all for it.
And the importance of manufacturing not being outsourced, as Pat Buchanan so eloquently was sounding the alarm back in the late 1990s.
Why not just have all this stuff made?
Made in Australia.
Made in America.
Why does everything have to be sent overseas so that corporations can have lower labor costs?
I know you don't wear them, but Nike shoes, I think they cost about, what, $2 to manufacture?
The profit margins are $80, $90.
I'm not opposed to world trade.
Trade in goods is okay with me, but it's trade in people.
That's where I would certainly draw the line.
But, you know, while we're on the world scene here, let's move to France briefly here.
The French Secretary of State to the Ministry of the Interior, Laurent Nunez.
Núñez says, that has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
Núñez says that unlike the strict measures that have been opposed on almost the entire country's population, the enforcement of quarantine should not be enforced in areas heavily populated with migrants.
Now, can you guess why?
I think you probably can.
A stigma, maybe?
What's that?
I think the word of the podcast has been stigma.
No, no, no.
It's not stigma.
Well, they'd feel so heavily stigmatized, they'd riot.
That's the reason you can't go tell them to stay indoors, because if they do, they might burn the place down.
The police in Paris's so-called no-go zones They are already, the police are already having trouble enforcing the quarantine and one officer who's been assigned to Saint-Denis, the suburb, which is heavily diverse, he told local media and I quote,
They don't understand anything.
Some of them are even saying that the virus is a fable invented by white people to force them to get off the streets.
Now, I wonder if they call it the Macron virus or the Trump virus.
But the point is, you have two different populations.
You can't even have the same approach to the same disease because they're going to riot.
You can't tell them to stay off the streets.
And I think you've probably seen videos of some of the events floating around
about non-whites in the streets of Paris.
The police come by and say, you know, you gotta go out to the streets,
you're spending, and they'll go up and cough on the police officers.
But I thought this was a very telling thing.
And, you know, after this is over, people are gonna say to themselves,
well, wait a minute, you know, why, why do we have this problem?
And of course, I think a lot of Frenchmen are just gonna shrug their shoulders and say,
okay, if they don't wanna get off the streets, if they wanna infect each other,
Let's go right ahead.
I think increasingly you're going to get sentiments of that kind.
But, now Italy, didn't you say there was a similar sort of situation with a gentleman from the Salvini party who was accused of taking unnecessarily effective measures at one point?
Yeah, the governor of Lombardy, which is one of the area's hardest hit, By the China virus.
Attilo Fontana, great Italian name, has said that he was accused of being racist in February.
He suggested that travelers coming back from China, from spending their time at the Chinese New Year celebrations, that they should be tested for the coronavirus.
Fontana is a member of Matteo Salvini's Nationalist Lega Party.
He revealed the response to his warning during a debate in the regional council just this past Tuesday.
So this is brand new.
This came out What's that?
March 30th.
So this was a report according to a local paper there in Italy.
He claimed that when he suggested that people arriving from China should be tested for the virus back as early as February 3rd, he was assured by Italy's left-wing Prime Minister that the country was in no danger of a mass outbreak because the medical system was, quote, too well prepared for it.
He added that some of his colleagues had called him a racist at the time and he was mocked with insolent words and that he had been offended by the remarks.
He also claimed that he was told that ordering the testing would lead to a loss of Italy's standing in the eyes of the world.
Oh boy.
Wow.
Wow.
Boy, things have certainly changed.
Now at this point, the eyes of the world would blink and you would be considered a fool if you didn't do the things that were considered outrageous and racist just two or three weeks earlier.
And recall, Dr. Giorgio Pallu, who's the professor of virology and microbiology at the University of Dover there in Italy, he went on CNN and he stated that Italy's response to the pandemic was slowed in the beginning as a result of fears that taking steps to quarantine people coming from China would be considered racist.
So again, fighting racism is a greater responsibility than stopping a global pandemic.
Better dead than racist.
You know, that's the motto of the left these days.
Well, anyway, you know, we've got just a little bit of time left.
We have a question from a listener.
And this one is almost been something we spent almost the entire podcast answering.
He says, COVID-19 has shown us that the current model of open borders is a disaster.
We should be discussing this.
Well, Listener, the whole world, I'm glad to say, is discussing this.
And as I say, this is a terrible context in which to see common sense returning.
These astonishing insights, even in high places.
Common sense is trickling up to the ruling class.
Let's hope it stays there.
In any case, we'd love to hear from you, and you can go to the AMREN website at AMREN.com and click on the Contact Us tab to send us your comments and questions, or you have an option, a different option.
Yeah, you can email me at BecauseWeLiveHere at ProtonMail.com.
Once again, that's all one word, BecauseWeLiveHere at ProtonMail.com.
And you know, Mr. Taylor, That's a phrase that I think a lot more people are going to start saying when it comes to the response once things come back to normal across the world in how we start to look at this whole concept of globalism and especially in Italy where these concepts of racism
Put the entire country, or being accused of racism, put the entire country's health at stake, as opposed to instituting and implementing sensible quarantine policies that would have saved a lot of lives.
That's right.
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