Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of Radio Renaissance.
I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance, and with us today is our usual guest, the indefatigable, inimitable Paul Kersey.
And at his request, we're starting with a particular story.
I'm the resident sports ignoramus, Mr. Kersey is the resident sports genius, and he has insisted that our number one story for the week should be none other than Colin Kaepernick.
So take it away, Mr. Kersey.
Well, let's just do a quick background on why this is so important.
It was a couple of years ago when Donald Trump was still a candidate and Colin Kaepernick, who is half white, half black, was raised by a white family.
He was a quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers at the time.
He decided to take a knee to protest racial injustice, police brutality toward blacks.
This was, of course, taking a knee during Mr. Taylor, the national anthem.
A massive pushback was created by middle Americans who are the backbone of the NFL's viewership.
Subsequently, the past two years, viewership is down.
Interestingly enough, the revenues for the NFL are still increasing at a time because there still is a demand for brands to be a part of and associated.
with the NFL when it comes to advertising.
But that's besides the point because ratings are down.
Now Colin Kaepernick has been out of the NFL for I believe two years and he is now the
face of the mega global corporation Nike, which is celebrating the 30th anniversary
of the phrase, just do it.
The the the advertisement that is the cornerstone of this new campaign with of course Colin
Kaepernick being one of the pitchmen along with Odell Beckham, Serena Williams and LeBron
All blacks are part of this campaign, the Just Do It 30th anniversary.
And Mr. Taylor, it's going to air.
The opening game of the NFL 2018 season is tonight.
It's the Falcons versus the Eagles.
And Nike has decided they are going to air this commercial with Colin Kaepernick.
During this nationally televised game with the entire country, all NFL fans will be watching this.
Glued to what should be a start of a season without politics.
But once again, Nike decides.
Now mind you, they are the official apparel of the NFL.
So they are partners.
They've decided to jump headfirst Into this controversy.
What have the teams decided on whether or not the players are allowed to take a knee during the National Anthem?
I know that some of the teams decided that that was not allowed.
They could either remain in the locker room, but they had to remain standing if they were on the field.
Yeah, the collective bargaining agreement, I believe, with the owners, they decided that you were not allowed to take a knee.
Of course, the Miami Dolphins, during the preseason, we've seen a number of players raise the black power fist.
So this has gone from just being the protest of racial injustice and perceived police brutality against black criminals.
It has now become, again, this really is a black power movement.
There's no other way of looking at it.
And that's why what Nike is doing is so strange because Colin Kaepernick has so many unbelievable, unbelievably dumb things that he's done over the past few years that just show that this really isn't about police brutality.
When he's wearing socks with pigs on them as police officers, when he gives money to He gave $25,000 to a fund for the cop killer that's down.
I think she's the one that's hiding in Cuba.
I can't think of her name.
Joanne Chesimard, by any chance?
Yes, that goes back a long way.
He's basically wrapped himself in social justice advocacy and in black power advocacy and Nike, a corporation that guess what?
There are a lot of white people who buy and wear Nike products.
And there are a lot of people who are looking at this and they're saying, well, wait a second.
I'm not quite sure if this is something that I want my children or I want to be seen wearing.
And this is why when the whole NFL flap broke a couple years ago with the taking a knee, I thought, this is a big moment.
And it really is because this is an own goal on the side of our enemies.
They don't need to do this.
They don't need to give white Americans the opportunity to say, hey, you know what?
There's something wrong here when this is being forced on us.
I mean, we're watching a sport that is 70% black, where these guys are making tens of millions of dollars.
Colin Kaepernick made close to $40 million as an NFL quarterback, Mr. Taylor, and now he's going to be paid millions for a perceived sacrifice.
I don't remember...
The exact language that is used on the ad.
The ad is, believe in something even if it means sacrificing everything.
So yes, poor Colin Kaepernick.
He's collecting millions of dollars for something he presumably believes in.
And what he of course believes in is an utter myth that somehow white police officers are gunning down innocent blacks.
Just as a, if I may insert a parenthetical remark, There was a recent academic study that just came out in which an exhaustive survey was done on all police shootings in the United States, whether by blacks or by white officers.
And they found that white officers were no more likely to shoot anybody, black or white, than black officers.
So the whole basis of this Kaepernick caper is foolish and fallacious to begin with.
To me, obviously they could have selected, if they want an all-black lineup to represent their brand, which is theirs to do if that's what they wish to do.
Surely they could have had some like Serena Williams, as you say, who are not nearly so polarizing as this guy.
This appears to be a deliberate decision to take sides in what's ultimately a political controversy and On Tuesday, immediately after the announcement, their stock was down 3%.
Now, I noticed that it is creeping back up.
It's regained half that loss, but I saw some analysis according to which they think they're going to do well on this.
Now, again, it seems to me that a company that looks at the bottom line can find plenty of black athletes.
who are not going to be as outrageous in the eyes of many people, mostly whites, as this guy.
But somebody's saying, well, they're targeting three key demographics, women and young athletes.
And according to this analysis, two-thirds of Nike's customers are under the age of 35.
But surely they can appeal to customers under the age of 35 if, in fact, that's what Colin Kaepernick is going to do without offending so many people.
There was an amazing quote by a Nike vice president who basically said, hey, you know what?
Our target market isn't angry white people, white males.
And you look at that and you're sitting there thinking to yourself, yeah, but you know what?
These angry white males have children, and they have dollars, they have money to spend, and they have to clothe their children.
You know what?
There are plenty of other companies, Under Armour, Reebok, Adidas, that aren't jumping, or New Balance, shoes that are actually made in America, by the way, That aren't jumping head first, that aren't diving into the opportunity.
What you just said is so strange because...
Like you said, the stock was down significantly.
It was all down because of this news.
It dropped.
It was a very sharp drop.
3%.
Well, 3% is not such a huge move.
It dropped, I believe, from close to $81 a share to just over $79 a share.
So you're talking about a huge hit to their market cap with the company.
Now, of course, that was short term.
That was a direct result of this announcement that came out over Labor Day weekend.
What is going to happen, though, is the long-term ramifications.
People who are no longer going to be shopping with Nike.
All those high schools, all those colleges that have plenty of choices of who is going to be the official outfitter of their program.
Whether it's a girls lacrosse team, or a handball team, or a stickball team, or a basketball team.
They can say, you know what?
We don't want to work with Nike.
Mr. Kersey.
How much confidence have you in the American public at large to decide that this is a political statement that we don't want to be associated with?
I have very high confidence.
Okay, all the girls lacrosse teams are going to stop.
Here's why I have high confidence.
There was a story out from Morning Consult.
They did a real-time brand tracking data to figure out what exactly this did to Nike's favorability rating.
They interviewed over 8,000 people.
American adults between 826 and 9-3 to find out what the reaction was.
This is what they found.
Let me just read this real quick.
Before the announcement of Colin Kaepernick being the face of this Just Do It campaign, Nike had a net 69 favorable impression.
It has now declined 34 points to a 35 favorable.
Direct result of this.
Now, you have to look at it from a racial standpoint.
With whites, 67% favorable before the announcement.
It's down to 27%.
That's a significant drop.
That is a not insignificant drop.
Among Republicans, it's actually in the negative.
It went from 75% favorable And the negative.
So this is an issue, again, there's so much going on with President Trump having to deal with anonymous op-eds in the New York Times, the Kavanaugh hearings, unbelievable stuff is happening, the tech hearings, but this is a story that I believe is going to continue throughout this season.
Of course it will continue because they will continue to broadcast this guy's mug across every television screen in the country.
Ordinarily, the memories of Americans are very, very short.
And if a company does something as social justice warrior-oriented as this, people very soon forget.
At first, they say, oh, this swinish company.
I'll never do business again.
They forget.
But they're going to make a point of rubbing our nose in it every time.
Every time people turn on the television, spit at their sports fans, they're going to have their nose rubbed in it.
So, I hope you're correct.
I hope you're correct.
But we shall certainly see about this.
I see that Trump was gleeful when the stock went down, and he's certainly been on the side of sanity in this matter.
Well, a stock can recover, Mr. Taylor, of course.
But look at what happened with Dick's.
Dick's decided to jump into the gun debate, even though they had stopped selling semi-automatic rifles six years ago, after Sandy Hook.
They had another store, Field & Stream, where they were still selling semi-automatic AR-15 type, AR-10 rifles.
Then they decided, they had the CEO who came out and said, you know what?
After this Florida shooting, the high school shooting, we're getting out of that business.
And guess what?
Their sales are actually down.
They're not flat.
They're down since this.
Now the question, and in a report I read, they tried to blame poor sales for Under Armour, blah, blah, blah.
No.
We are paying attention.
We know this.
You know this.
You're a gun owner, from what I hear.
You know, you get all the NRA stuff, which says, you know, vote this way, vote that way.
This is a very important issue.
Who says I'm a gun owner?
You like the Second Amendment, from what I hear.
I approve of the Second Amendment, in principle.
Well, I hear it's a water gun, from what I understand, right?
No, my point is this.
This upcoming midterm election is going to be very divisive.
We know this.
We have two elections.
We're about to talk about another white Democrat who got voted out.
But we have two unbelievably divisive elections in Florida and Georgia for the governorship.
Now you sprinkle in an issue that's going to get a lot of people who might not have wanted to vote.
They might have been turned off by some of the Trump rhetoric.
But you're putting Colin Kaepernick on all these commercials, Mr. Taylor, when all these people want to do is watch a football game to get their mind off of their lives.
Well, some of them will turn off the television set.
And we'll see.
We'll see.
So this is one to which we will.
And we hope our listeners will stay tuned.
But to move on to the election that you were discussing, this was the one in a Boston district, I'm sorry, the Massachusetts 7th Congressional District, in which we now have, it's one of these majority-minority districts, and we had a 20-year incumbent, white guy by the name of Michael Capuano, Who thought he was once again in for a shoo-in, but no sir, he's been knocked off by the first woman of color who was ever elected to the Boston City Council.
This is a district that contains most of the city of Boston, parts of Cambridge, and parts of Somerville.
Now, the slogan on which she ran, and boy, this is just socialism through and through if you ask me, and I quote, the people closest to the pain should be closest to the power.
What do you think of that?
You left out driving and informing the policy making.
That's right.
This sounds suspiciously like the rhetoric used in Venezuela and by the ruling Black Power Party in South Africa.
Well, I think there's something called a cacocracy.
Yes.
That's ruled by the worst.
The people closest to the pain.
Well, this is the assumption, of course, that if they're close to pain, it's because they have been ground down by vicious people who are actually driving and informing the policymaking.
But now the people closest to the pain.
I guess, do you think it is going to be part of their incentive to inflict pain on those who are not suffering pain?
I think that's perfectly within the realm of possibility.
But she has gone on to call President Trump, quote, a racist, misogynistic, truly empathy bankrupt man.
So she's made herself clear on that.
Now, this guy Capuano, Michael Capuano, he has been desperately, desperately progressive all his career.
But as the Daily Beast said, he has been viewed as not sufficiently progressive enough for the district's changing demographics.
Now, that's really putting it on the line, isn't it?
Once the demographics change, you have to be even more progressive than any white person is capable of being.
How far are you willing to go to denounce your whiteness?
That's right.
You can't, as a white Democrat in one of these What's the right word?
Not de-whitening, but increasingly vibrant.
Increasingly vibrant and diverse.
You know, you can't just say, hey, you know what?
I'm no longer white.
I no longer associate as white.
You just can't do that.
No, no, no.
I mean, your skin is indelibly white.
As Rachel Dolezal has discovered.
You can even try to wear dreadlocks, get a hell of a sunburn.
But no, no, no, you are still white.
Now, I thought it was very interesting that some of the coverage of this said Presley and Capuano did not disagree much on substantive policy.
He is one of the House's most staunch progressives.
Now, where they do disagree, however, is pretty significant.
This Ayanna Pressley lady, she is absolutely opposed to the long-promised wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, whereas Carpano has said that he might accept a wall in exchange for amnesty.
But no, she says, no, no, no, no wall.
Gotta have an amnesty without the wall.
She, of course, also challenged him on his vote for the so-called Blue Lives Matter bill, which would have imposed harsher penalties for crimes against members of law enforcement.
Can't have that.
Can't have that.
No, no.
Black lives matter, not blue lives.
Yes, and Capuano had said that he supported the message of the NFL players, such as Colin Kaepernick, who chose to take a knee during the National Anthem, but he questioned the tactics.
He questioned the tactics.
Well, Ayanna Pressley says, no, no, no, no.
Kneeling during the National Anthem, that is just fine.
Furthermore, she wants to do away with ICE.
This is the plank in the platform du jour.
She's going to do away with ICE.
That might be the cornerstone of the New America Democrat Party that's coming about.
Because we see that same language down in the governor's race in Florida and also in Georgia.
That's right.
They both realize that, hey, this really is a get-whitey party now.
And as you said, this is a district that, racially, the demographics are changing.
Currently, the 7th District has an ethnicity breakdown.
It's still majority white.
It's about 34% white.
Well, it's a plurality white.
34% white.
It is a plurality, but still, the whites are the majority in the plurality.
But non-whites are... Oh my goodness!
No, you're talking about 26%, 27% black, 11% Asian and 22% Hispanic.
Right.
So again, this is an area where the Republicans aren't even going to try and contest this election by having a candidate.
Well, see, that's the thing.
You know, you get these wild Democrats, and ordinarily, the conventional logic of primaries is that both the Republicans and the Democrats tack to the so-called extremes during the primary, and if they go too far, then they might get whipped in the general election.
Here, there's no opponent.
It's just like Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez in New York.
She's going to face no opponent either.
So for sure, she's going in.
For sure, this woman is going in.
Now, I did think it was interesting that there were two other congressional districts in the state where these female challengers, who were going to be exceedingly diverse, didn't manage to unseat a white person.
There was one, a lawyer, an activist by the name of Tahira Amatul Wadud in Massachusetts' 1st Congressional District.
She managed not to unseat Representative Richard Neal, an incumbent.
She's quite an interesting case.
She is a Muslim, but only by conversion.
This is a black woman who runs around in the usual rig out, but it was her mother's generation that converted to Islam and she has stuck to it.
So she was looking forward to being the first black Muslim congressperson from the state of Massachusetts.
Then another person who didn't make it was a woman by the name of Brianna Wu.
I don't know if you remember her, but she made something of a name for herself in the Gamergate controversy.
She actually is a white woman married to an Asian.
Her Wu name is by marriage only.
But she did not make the grade either.
But, you know, Massachusetts being the place it is, and the demographics changing as they are, I'm sure they figure it's just a matter of time.
I suspect we'll be hearing more from Ms.
Tahira Amatu-Wadud.
I wonder what her slave name was.
I don't think this was her christened.
This is the name that her family has had generation after generation.
But now that she's a Muslim, she's Tahira Amatul Wadood.
Definitely not a name that you'd hear on the ships coming over from the old world that landed at Plymouth Rock.
No, no, no, no.
It's not one of those Mayflower names.
Well, and moving right along, once again we have a study from, I think, an organization that really is a national treasure, and that's the Center for Immigration Studies.
They really do some of the most serious factual work on immigration.
If they say something is so, it's so, because they're very careful about their research.
And one of the latest studies, they were looking into the whole question of visa overstays.
These are people who come to the country legally.
And then stay illegally.
And in 2017, there were apparently 700,000 overstays.
Now this is down slightly from 2016.
But still, according to the Department of Homeland Security, only 15% of these 700,000 have left.
That means in just one year alone, 595,000 are still here.
They're still here.
And nobody has any idea where and how to get a hold of them.
And of course, the Democrat and progressive view would be, hey, unless they are hatchet murderers, unless they are child rapists, unless they are sequential arsonists, let them stay.
Well, not just Democrats, Koch brother funded Republicans who have this view of the free market and open borders are probably excited at the fact that About 20% of 302B visa overstays are from two countries.
33,700 from Brazil and 30,424 from Venezuela.
And I'm sure there's some Koch brother Republicans who are saying we can't let these people go back to Venezuela.
Look what's happening down there with socialism.
It's so terrible.
They need to be here in America where You know what?
Within a couple years when they're actually citizens, they can vote, I guarantee you that 80% of those 30,000 Venezuelans will be happy, democratic voters.
They sure will.
Now, interestingly enough, the category with the highest overstay rate is students and exchange visitors.
These are sort of home stays, you know, young high school types come.
40% of them Overstayed!
40%!
This is outrageous!
And in 2017, the largest number who did... I beg your pardon.
Yes.
There are 11 countries with student exchange visas with overstay rates of greater than 30%.
They reach as high as 40% and in some cases 50% now.
And the ones that were the worst were China, Saudi Arabia, India, and South Korea.
Now, if it were up to me, I would say to the government of China, look, we're going to put sanctions on you guys.
You can't have half your students overstaying illegally.
This is not something that we will tolerate.
But I don't think that even the Trump administration is going to be doing this.
No, I don't see them standing up to any of these countries, whether it's Saudi Arabia, India or South Korea.
It's a situation, again, the Center for Immigration Studies continues to put out these amazing studies that you would think a smart, young, Right-thinking candidate for office would basically take and run on, like a Chris Kobach has.
If you've seen a lot of what he's doing in Kansas during this governor's race, he's made it solely about the national, Peter Brimlow's national question.
This is what the Republicans should be doing in 2018.
While the Democrats, as we continue to see, have decided, hey, all we want to do is abolish ICE.
It'll make sure that Our future is ushered in much faster to get all you pale faces out of the way.
You would think that all you'd have to do is say, hey, send an email over to CIS and say, I need your best studies and talking points.
And if you guys have someone that can write a speech, I'll contract out with you.
Help us out.
And this sort of thing, of course, should be taken up and shouted from the rooftops by the Justice Department, by any kind of media that are really concerned about the future of the United States.
Really, just get back to the fundamental figure here.
700,000 overstay and 595,000 are still in the country.
That's in a single year.
We talk about this alleged 11 million illegal aliens in this country.
If we're adding 600,000 a year, not just for border jumpers, border hoppers, but for people who come here legally, these figures are vastly, vastly greater than what we've ever been led to believe.
Well, and of course, what it leads to in many cases, if you're talking about illegal immigrants of one sort or another, there is the case of poor Molly Tibbett.
Now, Molly Tibbetts' murder attracted a great deal of attention, as it deserved to get.
But it is dismaying the way Molly Tibbetts' father reacted to all of this.
And he wrote an op-ed piece in the local Iowa newspaper in which he says, to the Hispanic community, well, I guess I should preface this by saying that many people pointed out that his daughter would still be alive if this Hispanic immigrant who was here illegally had been kept out.
He says to the Hispanic community, my family stands with you and offers its heartfelt apology.
Apology?
This is a woman with a dead daughter.
That you've been beset by the circumstances of Molly's death is wrong.
We treasure the contribution you bring to the American tapestry in all its color and melody, and yes, we love your food.
Then he goes on to say, my stepdaughter, whom Molly loved so dearly, is Latina.
He says, that means I have a child, a grandchild.
That means I am Hispanic.
And then he goes on to say, I am African.
I am Asian.
I am European.
My blood runs from every corner of the earth because I am American.
Wow.
You know, you just wonder.
You would think that the grief of a father would be so great that he would have some sense of the cause of what happened here.
He would have some sense that there is something wrong with a system that lets people into the country illegally who then go on to kill your child.
The taste of a taco is far superior than his daughter breathing and holding her and hugging her again.
This story is infuriating to read because this is the anti-white mindset driving a father's grief to basically celebrate the very people who are colonizing our country and who have this illegal alien took his daughter's life.
It's so difficult to read this because the piece ends with Rob, Molly's father, writing, quote, Let's build bridges, not walls.
Let's celebrate our diversity rather than argue over our differences."
End quote.
Well, again, sure, we can do that, but your daughter's dead.
Yes.
Your daughter's dead!
It's not going to bring her back.
And without a few walls, without walls, without self-control, there are going to be more daughters who are dead.
And you know, you like to think that people who think in these terms, who think in these utterly cliched brainwashed terms, tend to be young people who are still in college, or folks who live in some sort of rarified academic environment.
But here's a guy in Iowa, old enough to have a woman, have a daughter who's in her 20s, Spouting, spouting this canned, hackneyed rubbish.
It is just dismaying.
And of course, I'm sure he realizes that all the liberals in the world are going to tell him this is all wonderful.
But this leads me to another illegal alien who committed murder.
And this just showed up this week as well.
A fellow named Ernesto Esquivel Garcia.
Age 20.
He murdered a 20-year-old college student in San Antonio, Texas, by the name of Jared Vargas.
Now, Jared Vargas, the guy who was killed, appears to be a U.S.
citizen.
He is a U.S.
citizen, but appears to be Hispanic.
But what the murderer, Ernesto Escobar Garcia, did, killed him and then burned down the apartment.
And then pretended to just be a gawker.
He watched the place burn as if he'd had absolutely nothing to do with it.
And as it turns out, yet again, we have an illegal alien who had in the past been charged with a DWI and a misdemeanor, criminal mischief, after purposely ramming his truck into an ex-girlfriend's car.
This was back in 2017.
He was told to leave, but somehow he managed to stay in the United States.
And, of course, I like the fact that this happens in San Antonio, which is famous for being a sanctuary city.
I can't stress it enough.
The Democrats have made it quite clear that after 2018, they want to turn the entire country into a sanctuary city.
They are getting giddy at the prospects that having an increasingly less white electorate means that they're going to be able to vote in the progressive policies that will be able to redistribute white wealth.
It really is that simple, and it is about exacting revenge, all the stuff that these young people of color are taught in college, in whatever majors they are, whether it's African American Studies, Gender Studies, whatever type of studies they're learning.
It basically is, hey, at some point you're going to use this degree, you're going to get elected, You're going to get a job in the state or federal bureaucracy because you are going to ensure that white wealth is redistributed to the pockets of people of color.
Well, this takes us back to Ayanna Pressley and her slogan, the people closest to the pain should be closest to the power.
Yep, I think that is in effect the motto of practically the entire Democratic Party now.
And as they march through the institutions, so to speak, there are all sorts of things, limited government, Second Amendment, all of these things, the Constitution, who cares about that?
It was just written by dead white males anyway, many of whom were slaveholders.
The United States flag, you know, who cares about that either?
All of that stuff, I think, can easily go by the boards once these people have enough people in Congress, enough people on the Supreme Court.
Quick observation for you, because I'm going to ask you a question here.
A couple years ago, I think it was 2014, you asked a number of contributors to AR to write what they thought was going to happen in 2025.
Do you remember this?
I do remember.
And you were at that point under the assumption that Hillary Clinton was going to be a shoo-in for the presidency.
Yes.
Fortunately, I was wrong.
Fortunately, we're wrong.
It's funny what you said about the American flag, because I went back and I looked at my piece, because I'm working on something for you on the whole Last Man movie controversy.
And the piece that I wrote was about how, hey, regardless of whatever happens, our flag is still going to be flying on the moon.
And it made me laugh, because this whole Last Man controversy, guess what?
They decided the American flag isn't even worth showing being planted on the moon.
And it's these type of stories, like the Nike story, why I think this is so important.
It's amazing how often those in power decide to thumb their nose at white America and to give white Americans the opportunity to come up for air, to breathe again and realize, wow, white people, what's going on here?
It might be the first time they've ever thought about things in that terms.
The whole, this whole last man controversy.
Well, that's the name of a movie, right?
Yeah, it's based on the book about Neil Armstrong's life.
It's starring Ryan Gosling.
It's coming out before the end of the year.
And it ends, of course, with the landing on the moon on July 20th, 1969.
They decided not to show the American flag being planted.
A deliberate choice.
A deliberate choice, because, again, Ryan Gosling, who's Canadian, came out and said, hey, this transcended borders and countries.
It's like, well, hey, you know what?
Actually, it did, because it was a bunch of Germans through Project Paperclip that, with Wernher von Braun, that we were able to get to the moon.
Ooh, don't remind us of that.
Anyways, let's not go there.
The true hidden figures, by the way.
But no, but that's imperialism!
That's imperialism, planting flags on these places that don't belong to us.
That's the great crime of the white man, you know?
But yes, but see, it is hard to imagine the American flag actually being ditched or being turned into something else.
I just think it will have a less and less and less role.
Remember when Barack Obama was running for president, and he wouldn't have an American flag in his lapel pin?
He got yelled at for that, and he started wearing one.
Correct.
There will come a time when it would be considered gauche, outré, to have an American flag in your lapel pin, even if you're running for president.
I can imagine, well, I can imagine anything, but that's one thing I can imagine without that much difficulty.
But remember, 62 million people voted for Donald Trump because he said, the flag matters.
You stand up for it.
And these are, you know, you can say implicit.
I'm beginning to realize that these are explicit displays of, I believe, white people.
This is all they have left in a lot of ways.
Oh, they are becoming more and more aware of the extent to which they are in the crosshairs.
And, you know, I've said this over and over, and I've been saying it for many years, but we see it's like tectonic plates.
There is this vast movement of ordinary Americans, white people, moving in one direction, while the ruling class and the allegedly thinking class, the people who tell us what to think, boss us around, they are moving in the other direction.
And that is what's adding to this extraordinary division in the country today.
And just an example of just how, oh, even the language is being twisted in remarkable ways, was a piece in the Daily Beast.
This was September 4th.
It's just come out.
And it's by a fellow named Arun Gupta.
Who has written for the Washington Post and for The Guardian, who you would think is not a complete and total ignoramus.
But the title of his Daily Beast piece is, Why Young Men of Color Are Joining White Supremacist Groups.
Now, this is rather clickbait headline.
You think, well, surely he doesn't think that.
He does think that because he thinks that the Proud Boys, for example, or the Patriot Prayer Group, he says, oh, these people are all basically white supremacists.
Well, they think all Donald Trump voters are white supremacists.
Again, this is where things have changed, and this article shows how much things have changed.
Exactly, exactly.
It used to be people were prejudiced.
You know, that was back in the 1950s.
You could be prejudiced, then you could be racist.
Now, you're a white supremacist.
And what this guy does, what this Arun Gupta does, for example, he takes a fellow named Enrique Tarrio, who is an Afro-Cuban, who is president of the Miami chapter of the Proud Boys.
This is Gavin McInnes, of course.
...who call themselves Western chauvinists.
Well, what's wrong with Western chauvinism?
Well, according to Southern Poverty Law Center, which this Mr. Gupta cites with great reverence, it says they regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists.
That's what the SPLC says.
Well, this is exactly what they're doing to Tucker Carlson with his talking points, Mr. Senator.
They're saying, hey, he's spouting white white supremacist talking points.
It's like, well...
Again, I don't understand what makes them, it's like the whole South Africa situation, which blew up a couple weeks ago, which now is interestingly completely out of the news.
That's right.
Where the left, the New York Times, the Washington Post tried to say, Mr. Taylor, hey, these are white nationalist talking points that Mr. Trump, that President Trump is aping.
That's right.
And it makes no difference if what we're saying is true.
No, no, no.
That doesn't matter.
It's the old game of taking a position that somebody doesn't like and saying, racist, racist.
Now it's white nationalist, white supremacist.
It's the whole idea of delegitimizing something simply by calling it a name.
And to me, it's astonishing.
The New York Times, which you would think would base its arguments on something having to do remotely with facts, is just name-calling in the same way.
I know we want to get back to the story, but I do want to say that I do believe this is forcing a lot of good people, who otherwise would have run from that, being name-called and being tarred and feathered with white supremacist or racist.
Clay Travis, he's a sports broadcaster.
He's got a new book coming out called Republicans Buy Sneakers Too.
He actually has as one, and this is a big, this is a huge guy.
He has over 600,000 followers on Twitter.
He works for Fox Sports.
He has a website called Outkick the Coverage.
He basically has found a niche since the University of Missouri poop swastika incident.
Where he's realized, hey, there are a lot of white sports fans who don't care about this SJW nonsense and who want to hear people attack it.
So his book is coming out and he actually has a quote as one of the main marketing slogans for Media Matters where it says, Clay Travis is a racist.
And he said, thank you.
I love this.
People will buy books because of this.
And, you know, here's a guy who's got a lot of sponsors.
Here's a guy who has corporate sponsors, who makes a lot of money by talking about this stuff.
He's, of course, one of the main people who said, I will never buy Nike for my children.
And he is someone who is not running from these name calling, from that.
And I think that type of courage is so contagious.
Oh, I think so, too.
I think so, too.
Back when the paperback version of Pay With Good Intentions came out, that was, oh, about 1992 or three or something like that.
In any case, we had, there was a review from the Baltimore Sun, H.L.
Mencken's old paper, ironically enough, that said that this is the most racist thing I've ever read in 50 years or something.
And we proudly put that on the back.
Even back then, this was something that was considered a selling point by my rather brave publishing house at that time.
But to return to this question of young men of color who are allegedly white supremacists, back to this Enrique Tarrio, who's president of the Miami Chapter of the Proud Boys, the reason that he is considered a white supremacist is that he doesn't think that white people are exclusively to blame for the problems of blacks.
That's all it takes.
He says all of this idea of blaming any, any difference on lingering inequality, that's baloney.
He says because they're dependent on welfare, there's no strong leadership, and they believe it when Democrats tell them you're always going to be broke.
He says it's their fault.
It's not white people's fault.
And to have anything other than an explanation of white supremacy and racism for the problems of blacks is to get you tarred as a white supremacist.
That's all it takes.
It's interesting.
That's the exact same message that the pastor who gave the eulogy at Aretha Franklin's funeral.
That's exactly what he said, basically.
He said, hey, black lives don't matter because we're killing it.
We keep killing each other.
What are you doing?
Yeah, well, that sounds that that is by the new definition of white supremacy.
That's white supremacy.
Oh, he was attacked vociferously by everyone there.
Of course, you know, mind you, we all know who was there.
It was it was Al.
It was Al Sharpton.
It was Jesse Jackson.
And it was, of course, Louis Farrakhan!
Yes.
Calypso Louis!
And this, of course, he was carefully edited for many photographs.
I loved the photograph that was circulating, I fear, only in our circles that had former President Bill Clinton and Alan Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan and, oh, there's one other guy.
Jesse Jackson.
Jesse Jackson, that's right.
All standing there at this funeral.
All standing there looking Solomon-friendly.
And then of course the eulogy ended with this black pastor basically blaming black people for the problems that they encounter in life.
Not the type of message that they're supposed to hear at the Aretha Franklin funeral.
But now here's another example of a white supremacist.
Here is Eliza, and I gather this is a man but it sounds like a woman, hard to tell from the context, who is black and Puerto Rican.
...attended the Liberty or Death Rally Against Left-Wing Violence held in Seattle on August 18th.
And this person joined about 20 militiamen, open carrying handguns.
Well, what Sanchez says is this.
If blacks, and this had to do with the whole question of white police gunning down innocent blacks, Sanchez says, if black people are committing more murders, more robberies, more thefts, more violent crime, that's why you would see more black men having encounters with the police.
Sounds pretty logical to me.
But that is what gets Eliza Sanchez tarred as a white supremacist.
It's extraordinary.
They are really throwing this word away on absolutely anything with which they disagree.
This article goes on to point out that the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer, they say these things overlap.
I don't know to what extent that that's true.
But the leader of Patriot Prayer is Joey Gibson, who's half Japanese.
His right-hand man is a fellow named Tusi Tala Tawisi, a 345-pound Samoan who calls himself a brown brother for Donald Trump.
Now, the idea that you can be a brown brother and be for Donald Trump, this is so inexplicable to these people.
It's anathema to this idea that only white supremacists are attracted to the message of Donald Trump, which is the whole point of what this author, Arun Gupta, is trying to say when he writes.
Go ahead.
Well, it's not just being attracted to Donald Trump.
It's having anything other than the certified, kosherized, grade-A, USDA-approved explanation for everything that goes wrong for blacks.
If you don't stick to that, then you're not somebody who has a different opinion.
You're a white supremacist.
But then, this is a great sentence out of this article.
And he's talking about the fact that there are Samoans and there are Afro-Hispanics and Cubans who are part of Patriot prayer and part of the Proud Boys.
By bringing diversity to what is at heart a white supremacist movement, people of color give it legitimacy to challenge state power and commit violence against their enemies.
There are so many things wrong with this sentence.
Deconstruct.
I don't even know where to begin.
By bringing diversity to what is heart, a white supremacist movement, people of color giving it legitimacy.
Well, first of all, these people are not white supremacists.
Not a one of them is.
But they give it legitimacy to challenge state power.
That would mean we're going to overthrow the federal government and commit violence against their enemies.
Where does that even come from?
I mean, if you say black people are more likely to be in jail because they commit more crimes than white people on a per capita basis, does that mean you are legitimizing people who want to challenge, overthrow the government, and commit violence against their enemies?
I believe in their mindset.
Yes, it really does.
I think that they envision, okay, if you believe X, then that means you're going to commit Y.
I guess that's true.
You know, that really does seem to be the way.
I mean, when people are saying that white silence is violence.
That's it!
If you believe X, you are axiomatically going to commit Y. Which brings us, I think, to an interesting story that we've held off for a while, Mr. Taylor.
Let's finish with this guy.
There's one more example of a white silence.
What an Asian white supremacist!
An Asian!
His name is Andrew Zhao.
He's a 25-year-old software engineer, emigrated from mainland China, and he says his mother and father are Trump fans.
That's all it takes for this Arun Gupta to label him a white supremacist.
It's just extraordinary.
But I love it when they throw that word around so wildly, so crazily, that an Asian who votes for Donald Trump is a white supremacist.
Brave new world.
But yes, I beg your pardon.
Tell us about this other story.
Well, again, I guess there's a dearth of actual white white supremacists, so they have to dredge up these people.
Oh, the demand for racists far exceeds the supply.
That's been the case for decades.
I think we all know that.
But of course, one who has been slandered, of course, the gentleman who created the whole Unite the Right, Unite the Right 2, Jason Kessler.
We just found out something Crazy today and as you noted when we did our production meeting prior to this on the line you said this is the end of the rule of law in America and if you want to go and take it away and just describe this what happened in this jury.
I remember watching live television after the Unite the Right rally.
Jason Kester had organized the demonstration.
He had a press conference and there were loads of microphones.
There was this absolute forest of microphones he walks up to.
He starts talking about how the fault was not with the Unite the Right.
They were not responsible for the violence.
The police failed to serve.
Well, he gets mobbed.
And somebody comes up and punches him.
This is assault and battery.
And, in fact, a fellow named Jeffrey Winder, who was caught on television punching him.
Back in February, he was given a 30-day suspended sentence for doing this in the Charlottesville General District Court.
Well, he appealed his sentence.
He appealed his sentence.
And he got tried again.
And jurors came back with a guilty verdict.
Yes, this was assault and battery.
But they recommended that he do no jail time, no suspended sentence, and he pay a fine of $1.
This, in effect, means that if you are walking up and you are committing violence against Jason Kessler, a person who is trying to explain That there were two sides in this.
That there was fighting, that there was violence, but the police did not do their job, which has been later justified.
Yes.
That's exactly what happened.
If you come out and you say these things, you can punch this guy.
Who knows how much violence could have been done to this guy and still get away with a $1 fine.
This is simply outrageous.
Well, what's so outrageous about the video that you just mentioned that precipitated this entire court hearing and Well, it's a criminal trial.
It ended in one dollar, precisely.
Police just stand there and do nothing.
They don't even protect him.
That was the first thing that I noticed when I saw this.
He had to run.
He had to back away because there was this mob.
He ran for his life.
Of course.
There was this mob of people who came after him.
Tripped through a bush and the police just, they didn't do anything.
We eventually had to run into the arms of the police and then they fended off his attackers.
Which is why you think about that line from the Daily Beast story when the article, when Arun Gupta wrote about how by bringing diversity to what is at heart of white supremacist movement, people of color give it legitimacy to challenge state power and commit violence against their enemies.
Hey, dude, I'm sorry.
Look what happened to Jason Kelso when he was trying to give a press conference.
Police refused.
To actually exercise their monopoly on violence to defend his right of freedom of assembly and freedom of speech.
They should have arrested him.
There was more than one assailant.
In fact, there were two people who tried.
Both were found guilty because there was just irrefutable video evidence of these people attacking a guy utterly unprovoked.
But then for a jury to then decide, and for a judge to permit, because a judge can certainly overturn any kind of jury recommendations on a sentence.
Ordinarily, that's up for the judge to decide.
One dollar, and no jail time, no suspended sentence, no nothing.
As I was saying to you before we started talking about this, this is the end of the rule of law.
The rule of law, theoretically, is that the same laws, the same rules, apply to everyone.
Well, this goes back to the whole question of when, on Inauguration Day, when Richard Spencer was slugged on television while he was doing an interview.
Is it okay to punch a Nazi?
Is that apparently that is a genuine debate these days?
And the theory is there are some thoughts that are just so evil that you are justified in slugging someone who expresses them.
And that's what the that's what the that's what all these candidates who are running as the face of the New Democratic Party.
That's what they that's what they truly believe.
I feel sure it is.
And I come back to this tweet from Marco Rubio.
I shake my head over it every time.
Immediately after the Unite the Right rally, he tweeted the following.
When entire movement built on anger and hatred towards people different than you, it justifies and ultimately leads to violence against them.
Justifies!
Now, first of all, he's completely misunderstanding.
Built on anger and hatred towards people different from you.
Well, so what if that were true?
So what if that were true?
To say that there are ideas, ideas, opinions so vile that anyone who expresses them deserves violence?
I mean, for a sitting U.S.
Senator to fly in the face of the First Amendment so brazenly is just astonishing to me.
Well, he also said yesterday during the tech hearings that he wants to have these big tech companies, your Twitter, your Google, your YouTube, your Alphabet, and your Facebook to police hate speech.
If the government is hamstrung by this pesky thing called the First Amendment, then we can count on private industry to take the place of government.
Private industry can wear the hats of the commissars with the red star and the hammer and sickle right in the middle of the brim.
Yes, they can take over and do government's job for it, because the government, unfortunately, is hobbled and it is handcuffed by this pesky thing, the First Amendment.
God, this guy's a senator.
I just, I guess I'm naive.
He wasn't just a senator, he was a major candidate for president.
Yes, he was.
Who wasn't properly neutered until President Trump basically said, hey, you know what?
Not only do I not have small hands, but I have, well, you can fill in the rest.
We have a mixed audience that we don't want to offend.
That's right.
Well, and moving on, moving on to something else quite extraordinary.
I wish this was a story that we... I thought about leaving it out.
It's just so dreadful and infuriating.
But just this last week, there was an overnight field trip for fourth graders in Germany.
And they went to this picturesque chateau.
They toured the grounds.
They had what was supposed to be a lovely time.
Fourth graders, mind you.
And apparently, there was one of whom several came up to him during the day, and they said, we F you today.
Of course, this is the German equivalent, but we're going to do it today.
And that night, Two 11-year-olds, one a Syrian, one an Afghan, held down a 10-year-old while another 10-year-old, an Afghan, buggered him.
So here we have a case of gang buggery.
And the victim is a 10-year-old.
We do not know whether he is of Middle Eastern extraction, like his attackers.
But the idea of fourth graders, 10 and 11-year-olds, assaulting someone like that on a school field trip, This is just incredible to me.
Again, I suppose I am revealing my naivety and my shock at this, but this is the new Germany.
Well, go back and look at that National Geographic cover, the new Europeans.
This is their culture.
This is their ways.
This is their mores.
These are their values.
It's one of the reasons why I think we can end on a positive.
Hopefully a positive, Mr. Taylor, because all across the Western world, a cold, icy wind from the past is beginning to blow.
And even in Sweden, even in Sweden, where the racial muscles have atrophied almost to the point where they weren't even going to be able to be used again.
What is happening?
Well, Rip Van Winkle is coming back from his long sleep.
Yes, he is.
And those muscles really do need a little toning up.
But by the time we speak next, there will have been a general election in Sweden.
And this is going to be a very important one.
All European and many American eyes are focused on Sweden.
Because the Sweden Democrats, that are now the third largest party, who are sitting at about 13% of the seats in the Parliament.
They're predicted to come up to 19% and be the second largest party.
This is all very significant.
They only entered Parliament in 2010 with 5.7%.
Now, they are very staunch on immigration, and I think it's quite interesting.
I was reading a BBC article about this, and they're quoting a first-time voter named Sandra Sundström.
Age 18.
She says, they have the most things that are right for me.
They're for Swedes.
What an idea!
What we're seeing in Italy.
We actually have politicians who are for Italians.
And Hungary.
We have Hungarians who are for Hungarians.
Yes, yes.
And Austria.
Austrians who are for Austrians.
Yes, that's right.
And even in Sweden.
Yes, they're for Swedes.
And she has really put her finger on the crucial point.
All of the other parties are for somebody else.
It comes down to what I think are the four most important words of the 21st century.
Because we live here.
Because we live here, and that's what the Swedes are beginning to understand.
There are people who don't want you to even live here anymore.
That's right, that's right.
Now, as the BBC took great joy in pointing out, the Sweden Democrats' core base is working class men, but, and they're worried about this, Growing numbers of women and more educated and higher income voters, they are also backing their tough line.
Maybe they've read the news about the German rape, this gang buggering of the poor fourth grader.
Maybe they've read the news about that poor German woman who was hacked nearly to death by a Muslim in his trial.
He said, Well, this is acceptable in my culture.
They're reading the news.
Some of this managed to trickle down to the voters, even these poor working class women, and even these women in more educated voters.
But there's going to be a real problem if the Sweden Democrats come in as the number two party, or conceivably they could be the number one party.
At the present time, the predictions are that Sweden Democrats will be 19% and Social Democrats will be about 22%.
It's the Social Democrat, this guy named Lofgren, who is the prime minister now.
They could be number two.
My guess is, as in so many places, people are less likely to tell pollsters that they're going to vote for the Social Democrats because that's considered bad, bad, bad, bad.
So, imagine the Sweden Democrats coming in number one.
I actually am going to go on record and say they are.
I think that we are seeing some beautiful things across the Western world that I think even you, as Pragmatic as you are, I would even say, some of the things are happening you never would have thought you would have seen in your life.
No, I never would have thought.
I never would have thought this.
And I hope you're right.
I hope you're right.
Next time we speak, the voters will have spoken.
So let us keep our fingers crossed.
And let's not forget the alternative for Sweden.
This is the former youth wing of the Sweden Democrats.
They were expelled because they were even stauncher.
They stand not just for not letting in any more, but sending the ones who were here back where they came from.
What an idea!
Now they are standing as a party for the first time, and they have to clear that 4% barrier.
But already there have been three sitting parliamentarians from the Swedish Democrat who have said, we stand with the Alternative for Sweden.
So, the wind is in their sails.
Let us hope that wisdom prevails in Sweden on the 9th of September.
So, we have just a little bit of time left over, and I think we should go into this question.
And this is an excellent question, and I'm not sure I have a good answer for it, but this is something that people often ask.
Why are the peoples east of the Iron Curtain essentially immunized against suicidal altruism?
I have some ideas about that, but what do you think?
Do you have any views as to why that is the case?
I'm going to simply say I really do believe that It has something to do with a greater attachment to religion, to Catholicism.
I believe that it hasn't become as watered down as whatever you call Christianity in Western Europe and increasingly in the United States.
I think that in a lot of ways and of A very good friend of mine once told me that you can go over to these countries, you can go over to Hungary, you can go over to Poland, and the people there can show you the cemeteries where their families are buried, where they were murdered by these Bolshevik, by these evil regimes, and they have a long memory.
And it is still the case that people who are regular churchgoers are, in fact, more likely to agree with us on racial questions than agnostics, people who have completely fallen away.
Religion does seem to have this effect.
Even Christianity, which people scoff at as being this universalist religion that automatically makes people open their borders.
Even Christianity has this effect of making people have a sensitivity to what really matters, to their nation, to their group.
You're creating a community.
It's a micro-community and you're part of something.
And I think that what we've seen in Western Europe, there's this deracination.
It does have a distinct connection to the breakup of the importance of Church in people's lives and religion.
Yes, and there's another aspect too.
And that is, while they were on the other side of the so-called Iron Curtain, they were protected from all these horrible poisons that were circulating wildly in the West.
They didn't get all that stuff.
And it's not just the ideas about race, but all of these fancy ideas about women serving in the military and open homosexuals serving in the military.
All these wild ideas that have been popularized here.
They didn't have those things going through.
The other thing I think that's important is that they lived in a regime where they were constantly being lied to, and they knew it.
So they have a built-in kind of skepticism.
But anyway, let us hope that we move in that direction, and I think our time is up.
Well, our time is up, but we always like getting questions, so I do want to throw out to our listeners If you have any questions you'd like Jared and myself to address in a subsequent edition of Radio Renaissance, shoot me an email sbpdl1 at gmail.com or to the contact us page at amren.com.