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Feb. 22, 2018 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Expropriation Without Compensation
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Radio Renaissance.
I am Henry Wolfe, sitting in for Jared Taylor.
who is in Washington, D.C.
right now giving an interview about the Second Amendment, of all things, with Voice of America.
But we have a fantastic show on our docket here.
We've got a special guest, which was promised to everyone last week.
And I had many people texting me, writing in, asking who this special guest is going to be.
They couldn't wait to find out.
And it is actually America's favorite immigrant.
I, of course, mean Peter Brimelow.
You can hear him laughing here.
And I am joined, as always, by Paul Kersey.
Gentlemen, how are you?
Thank you for having me, Henry.
Hi, Paul.
Henry, we're excited because I know a lot of people have been asking when you're going to return.
So, serendipitous that Jerry would be giving a speech on Voice of America and allow you the opportunity to re-engage the audience.
Well, Mr. Taylor is the voice of America.
Uh, let's kick it off today by talking a little bit about the big news on the home front for us this week, which is our lawsuit against Twitter.
Um, this has been a pretty big news story.
It was reported not once, but twice in the Daily Caller, uh, Wall Street Journal, BBC, Talking Points Memo, CNET, Gizmodo, UK Independent, Reuters, and the Associated Press.
And all of their affiliates printed stories about little ole American Renaissance and Jared Taylor suing Twitter because they banned our account several months ago unceremoniously claiming that we are quote associated with violent extremists.
Just totally baseless accusation and we are suing them under California law since they're a California company and the critical case for us is something called Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robbins.
It was decided by the California Supreme Court, basically the California Constitution as further speech protections than the First Amendment.
And so the Supreme Court in that case found that even a privately owned public venue still must allow free speech.
And so our argument is that that should apply to companies like Twitter, which are clearly public forums for people to speak.
And even if it's privately owned, it should be open to speech under the California Constitution.
So we're very excited about that.
We are raising money for a legal fund for this.
We've had a great outpouring of support so far, but of course, these things are very expensive.
So we'd like to encourage our listeners to go to amarin.com.
And on the right sidebar there, you'll see an ad that says, help fight Twitter censorship.
And if you follow that, you can find out more about our lawsuit.
find out how to contribute to the legal fund. We are accepting cryptocurrency now.
So please do check that out. Henry, let me say that I think this is extraordinarily important
development. I mean, the totalitarian left has been running wild in the last several years,
basically because the people on the right, the patriots, are not used to suing. They're not used
to lawfare.
Whereas actually, a lot of what goes on is illegal.
For example, wearing masks.
It's taken several years for people to get around to realising that it's not legal to wear masks in demonstrations.
But apparently this law has been, it was a dead letter, it was never enforced.
There's a legal environment, you know, there are legal repercussions to a lot of what the left does and we've been just, we've just forced, Vida.com has just forced a leftist paper in Colorado to retract calling us white supremacists and so on.
Although there is no libel over public figures, they generally have to show that they're not malicious, which means they generally have to print retractions.
And additionally, although we've done nothing to publicize this yet, Partly because Liddy and I were in Europe last week.
We've just filed against the mayor of Colorado Springs, against Colorado Springs, for basically denying our civil rights.
He was foolish enough to say that if we were to go forward with one of our conferences, which was at the hotel in Colorado Springs, that he would not provide police protection.
And so this is a civil right.
We have a lawyer who is an enterprising lawyer who wants to take this on.
And of course that's what should happen in Charlottesville.
That's right.
Well, we, unlike Conservatism Inc., we actually like fighting back.
It's just been shocking to me the number of speeches by, you know, Ben Shapiro, even Ann Coulter, we could say, although I wouldn't really classify her with the others.
But, you know, people just do not press their rights.
Even when they're shut down by these public universities, they're not pressing their rights.
But we have to fight tooth and claw because these are, you know, Twitter, And these social media outlets are some of the only ways that we can get our message out there.
They won't let us host conferences in private facilities.
You know, American Renaissance has had two conferences in the past that we had to cancel because of this.
Now we're relegated to public venues, so we've got to fight for the right to speak.
As you know, V-Dare.com, we've taken a slightly different tack.
We've made three bookings with the tells last year, all of which were cancelled, which earned us somewhere around $80,000 because they have to pay out cancellation fees, liquidated damages, and we're about to announce our fourth conference.
Generally speaking, what we find with these hotels is that they're run by Americans who think they live in a free country.
It never occurs to them that they can't contract a conference with anybody they want.
Then, of course, the SPLC gets involved and there's a 180 degree turn, but the fact is that these things can't be done without legal repercussions, and we've got to repercuss legally more.
Shouldn't say that because everything you just said is so important, but what Henry's pointing out is if we can't have conferences in person to do virtual conferences, you can do those through Periscope on Twitter.
You could do that on Facebook, but this is one thing that I don't think you've mentioned before.
Facebook kicked you guys off.
That's right.
The American Renaissance page is gone on Facebook and I have tried to encourage you guys to go fight for that.
Hopefully that will be something down the road you guys can go for as this battle against censorship heats up because Having that ability to interact with your Facebook fans by just popping up and saying, hey, let's do a live.
Let's send an email to all of our subscribers and we're going to have a Q&A session with Jared Taylor and ex-guests that's in studio on our Facebook page.
And it's an opportunity, say someone's coming over from Europe and Jared has an opportunity to interview them.
That's an opportunity to engage your audience.
To offer them something that they don't get a chance to do that often.
To see Jared just talking and engaging, asking questions and answers.
It's something that InfoWars has done so well.
They have been able to get around such draconian censorship and really create some very compelling and captivating material that otherwise wouldn't be getting out there.
And this is why I cannot stress the importance of listeners to help out in this legal fund
that American Renaissance is engaging in because there are so few people fighting for your
rights.
And we're going to be talking about a lot of the terrifying implications of the demographic
changes and what that means for our rights later in this podcast.
But this is an opportunity to actually get in the fight and help.
One of the only causes actually worthwhile right now.
That's right.
We are funded only by our people we don't get money from the top unlike unlike some people who get you know, let's say 50 million extra dollars to promote their film and And to build their film, of course, speaking about the film of the hour, the film of the century, heck, maybe the greatest film of all time.
We're talking about Black Panther, which I know we've talked about in previous podcasts.
And and Mr. Kersey, you wrote a very nice piece.
for our site, which I encourage all of our listeners to go and check out.
But, Mr. Kersey, I know you wanted to comment on a few things on the film, having seen it now.
Yeah, I've got to say, people listening to this podcast know that I've been pointing out, and I wrote two pieces for V-Dare prior.
One was pointing out that people actually really believe that Wakanda would exist if Colonialists.
And this is what's so fascinating.
In the movie, the Wakandans call all white people colonizers.
It's a very derogatory term.
They use this over and over again.
And I'm sitting there in the theater and I'm taking all these notes because it just blew my mind when I'm watching.
It was far more radical than I anticipated.
Rolling Stone on their cover story for this month has the actor who played Black Panther and they note quite happily that this is a radical, racially revolutionary film.
I noticed in Steve Saylor's review he said that the left seems to think that Wakanda is real.
And the New York Times cited it as a rebuttal of Trump's comments about shithole countries, you know, saying, well, what about Wakanda?
They really think this is real.
Whereas the reality is, as Saylor points out, is that this film was based on a, uh, the director, Kugle, Ryan Kugler, who's from Oakland.
He, uh, he took some trips to Africa and I guess during his experience, he, He went to this small country in an elevated area of Africa called Lesotho.
And that's what Wakanda was based on.
Lesotho has 40% of the population living below the poverty line of $1.25 a day.
That's the international poverty line.
And in urban areas, evidently 50% of women under 40 have HIV.
So this is your mythical black metropolis in reality.
I can't encourage listeners of this podcast enough to go see it.
Again, this had a $200 million budget to make the movie.
And then on top of that, it had a $150 million marketing budget.
No other Marvel film has had anything near this.
You know, Captain America, First Avenger, when that came out in 2011, that movie wasn't marketed directly toward white people.
None of the Avengers movies have been directed, have been marketed directly toward the Caucasian marketplace.
They've all been, they're all universal characters.
I mean, I was reading about how Disney back in the 1950s, maybe the 1960s, they made 300 million dollars one year just on selling coonskin hats based on the Davy Crockett television show.
How popular that was.
What terrifies me about this Black Panther film is... I remember that.
Yeah!
What terrifies me about the Black Panther film is how casual the anti-white narrative is throughout the film.
Saylor noted that in his review at Talkie Mag, and he downplayed a little bit.
There was a review on Breitbart that tried to even say, John Nolte wrote this embarrassing review that tried to say Wakanda was Trumpian.
And it's like, no!
The whole movie, the Wakandans talk about praise the ancestors.
That's a very admirable thing.
You should praise the ancestors, because their wisdom protected you from the colonizers, the white people who are hated so much.
by the Killmonger character, the bad guy, who turns out that he is actually the cousin of T'Challa, the new Black Panther.
I wrote a piece for V-Dare where I noted that I think that most black people seeing this film are going to resonate more with the Killmonger character, who quite explicitly says, we want to arm all black people to rise up and kill white people.
This is in a Disney movie.
I mean, think about that.
That is how outrageous the times we are, that no one is really... The Media Research Center, no one is calling to attention that a supposed family film, the motivation for the villain is to rectify the inequities through Wakandan technology being disseminated to black power groups all across the planet.
That is the goal of Killmonger.
He says this.
The movie ends with T'Challa, the Black Panther, killing the Killmonger character, and they're going to watch the Wakandan sunset.
And T'Challa says, you know, our technology, we can bring you back to life.
We can resuscitate you.
He goes, no dawg, he'll just put me in chains.
Just bury me in the ocean so I can be with all my brothers who jumped off the slave ships.
On their way to America.
This is, that's how the movie ends.
Well, I hope we didn't spoil that for our, uh, for our listeners.
So I'm sure.
When is, Paul, when is this review coming?
It'll be in tonight, so it'll be edited and it'll be up.
I mean, the movie's still, the movie's still going to make a lot of money, but.
Honestly though, I mean, applying Derbyshire, John Derbyshire's rule in his version of the talk, it's actually safe to go to these shows.
I saw it in a theater that was about 95% white.
I was laughing the entire time at the scenes where the Killmonger character was making these grandiose claims of killing white people or when they call people colonizers.
I laughed very hard when the camouflage technology that protects Wakanda from being seen by the world, it then shows this unbelievably Uh, beautiful skyline.
CGI skyline.
Um, and one of the skyscrapers actually has like a tree hut on the top of it.
So I guess they were trying to incorporate traditional African, um, African technology.
I don't know, but then in one of the next scenes, it then shows London, England skyline.
And of course, London, you don't need to have CGI.
It looks like what Wakanda actually is supposed to look like with CGI.
And then it goes to another scene and, and, uh, South Korean country where there's a pointless scene where they try and interject the Asian market into it.
Because again, the fear was with this movie that Asians who don't particularly enjoy going to see movies with black actors.
This is a phenomenon that's been noted for decades.
But a lot of these action films always have a gratuitous scene shot in China or Korea or Japan just to try and placate that audience.
You see the skyline for the South Korean city, and it looks like what the CGI version of Wakanda is.
We already have these Wakanda areas, and they are in nations that were once homogenous, where that type of social capital was able to grow.
And now, of course, London has a majority non-white British, native British population.
And the goal, of course, obviously, that the globalists want is to Have the growing African population pour into the homogenous Asian nations.
Well, it's very interesting that Black Panther just came out because just last week we had a speech, which in a real country, South Africa, which may have been given by Killmonger himself.
And that was by the new president of South Africa, Jacob Zuma.
Of course, the longtime despot there has stepped down.
He was forced to resign.
And in his place, we've got Cyril Ramaphosa.
He gave the State of the Nation talk last Friday, and it sounds a lot like what Killmonger might have said.
He is talking about forcible land appropriation, expropriation, without compensation.
In other words, taking the land from whites and giving it to blacks.
And, spoiler alert, we've got a little preview of what happens when they do that in South Africa's neighboring Zimbabwe.
And it's not going to work out for him.
But here's his quote from the floor of South African Parliament.
We are determined that expropriation without compensation should be implemented in a way that increases agricultural
production, improves food security, and ensures that land is returned to those from whom it was taken under
colonialism and apartheid.
You know, it's funny you mentioned Zimbabwe and Jared and I, we talked about how the new Zimbabwe president is inviting
back the white, Rhodesian president.
Oh, it's so funny.
And there was a picture of the white Rhodesian being embraced by all of his former workers because they were displaced.
They were economically displaced when the black government of Zimbabwe took this land, appropriated the land, and then redistributed it to well-connected friends of the party who didn't care about trying to maintain the property.
What's happening in South Africa is so terrifying because we look at what's happening in Cape Town, where it's about to be the first city to run out of water.
And you think about all that's happening.
Laura Southern just did some fantastic work that we have to bring to everyone's attention because she went down there.
She's interviewing.
these whites, these Afrikaners who are living in communities,
these little shanty towns, because the black economic empowerment, BEE,
it basically mandates that no government job can go to white people.
So these white people are hopeless and it's funny because right now CPAC is going on
and you'd think that there'd be somebody who'd want to talk about
how post-apartheid South Africa is a glimpse of what the white
minority in the coming decades is going to face in the United States.
Well, you know, they could at least talk about it from a property rights standpoint.
You know, that might get them excited.
Because certainly, you know, whites being dispossessed from a country which they've been in for 400 years, that doesn't seem to interest them too much on the home front here, so I can't see how they could Peter, you've watched all this.
Henry and I are younger, so we didn't see a lot of the debates in the 1980s or even the 1990s with the changeover of power, but can you talk to us in the audience about some of the warnings that the that the Afrikaners had for this.
I mean, because the South Africans, they just handed the country over.
There really was no fight.
They just gave it over.
South Africa is a great, awful warning for America because what happened there was the white community was simply mow-mowed by the media and by international pressure.
And it's an awful warning that it actually is possible to divide a white minority or a white community.
To the point where it actually makes an obviously disastrous mistake.
I think that's really why we've seen Charlottesville in this great moral panic, this purge that's taken place this year.
The left in this country is absolutely desperate to prevent the whites from uniting and becoming conscious.
Now, I must say, I never expected that the Afrikaans would give up their country like this.
It's simply staggering that it happened.
But it was always obvious this was what was going to happen.
The thing about South Africa though, it's taken 20 odd years to start to really get bad.
And it took quite a time in Rhodesia as well.
And that's the things you've got to look out for.
Oh well you know it's a black majority now but still the bosses are running and there are still restaurants where people go and people are going on with their lives.
I remember talking to Afrikaner after the handover and he said that his parents and his family were all farmers and nothing much changes in the countryside he said.
Well of course now it is changing but it does take 20 years, you've got to watch for that.
It's a natural devolution, it seems to me.
I mean, property rights were enshrined, I guess, in their constitution, and now they're talking about amending that, so that they can just take the land with no compensation.
And, you know, Ramaphosa, he's being pulled from both sides, you know.
Well, really, what I find really interesting is his attack on the Democratic Alliance, which is the I just don't know how organized they are over there, but they're going to have to fight.
flat out says you're not going to be able to oppose us.
You know, we're going to deal with you decisively if you oppose us.
I just don't know how organized they are over there, but they're going to have to fight.
Who is the young guy that, I guess he's in his mid-30s now, who was so militant in trying
to force Zuma to the right when it came?
Well, well, I mean from our perspective perspective Yeah, that would be Malema Malema Julius Malema.
He's the He's the head of the economic freedom fighters, which is the third largest party there.
There's a book that I highly recommend all American Renaissance podcast listeners to pick up.
It's a book by this gentleman by the name of Paul Thoreau It's called The Last Train to Zona Verde Amran did an amazing review on it back in 2013.
I just picked it up because I had read that he was honest.
He's a liberal.
He's one of the top travel writers alive at this point.
His writings are renowned.
They're reviewed in all the prestigious journals and newspapers of record.
The book is one of the more honest looks at what Life in Africa really is, and he was very critical.
This book was written in 2012, came out in 2012, and he was very worried about what, you know, from a liberal perspective, of what the future looked like when you had someone like Julius able to articulate such vicious anti-white hatred and what the actual ramifications were.
But, you know, he actually was worried, and he writes about, and this is kind of where I'm going with my piece that I'm working on for V-Dare, on the whole Wakanda isn't real, is that he's writing about the same things that Steve Saylor is, but from a liberal perspective of just how dangerous and how frightening this explosion of the African population is.
If I may read real quick from this, just to give you a tease of how important this book by Thoreau is.
He writes My horror interest in the futureless dystopian world gone wrong, Mad Max Africa, of child soldiers, street gangs, wreaking slums, refuse heaps, utter despair, misplaced belief, new age cargo colts, and bungled rescue attempts, this horror interest is rooted in attachment.
It is unworthy, no more than idle, slightly sickening curiosity over modernity in its most odious form.
The sort that technology worsens by making people lazier and greedier.
Tantalizing them with visions of the unattainable, driving many of them to be refugees and bludgers in Europe and America.
What have we seen, end quote, what have we seen in the past six years?
We continue to see endless boats, a Camp of the Saints type nightmare of exactly what Thoreau was warning about, what he saw.
He, you know, he traveled all around Africa as a seven-year-old white man and he basically left because he knew it was too violent.
And in one of the more poignant scenes of the book, he's with this black He's with this black guy, this black photographer, and they're looking at one of the slums.
of one of the cities where there are these just giant trash heaps and he points out this is what the world is going to look like when it ends.
Right before it ends.
Yeah and one of the few refuges in Sub-Saharan Africa has been South Africa.
Bingo!
And that's going to go the same way as former Rhodesia and you know everyone knows going from the breadbasket of Africa to you know subsisting on food aid and hyperinflation and all the rest and that's what appears to be be about to happen in South Africa, assuming he's not, Ramaphosa
is not simply placating those to his left. But Malema was very vocal and even violent in his
rhetoric in the debate afterward about the state of the nation address. He was addressing
the opposition Democratic Alliance leader and he said that that is the fundamental
issue that's going to make us fight with you because anyone opposed to the expropriation of
land without compensation is the enemy of our people and such a person will be dealt
with.
Are you having an Africana at the American Renaissance Conference this year?
You had a very good speaker last year, didn't you?
Yes, yes.
And he only spoke briefly last year, but he'll be giving a full talk this year.
What's his name again?
Simone Roche of the Soylanders.
That was a very powerful presentation you gave.
I was very impressed with it.
Well, he'll be giving a full one this year, and our registration is still open for anyone who is listening to this podcast.
We've got just a handful of rooms left.
at the conference center, but we will have more seats available.
So there are about a hundred or so more seats available, so people will have to stay in the surrounding area or find a roommate who's already got a room.
Because what this speaks to, how long have you been advertising this now?
About two months.
Yeah, I mean what it speaks to is enormous repressed demand for this kind of conference.
Oh yeah, and it's not an easy conference to get to.
You know, we're 45 minutes from an airport, so people have to either take a long Uber ride or rent a car, but... Ah, it's not that difficult.
I urge everybody to go.
Well, everyone should come, because it's our pilgrimage.
You're coming to a place of relief, of awakened people who get it.
Again, the American Renaissance event.
I've never been to one.
I hope to attend one in the near future.
Maybe when it can be in a more easily accessible location when the crowd could really be large and say like in Atlanta or maybe even... What do you think you could get up to, Henry?
You know, I think we could probably get double the attendance.
I think we could get 600 people if we had one today in say Washington DC or Atlanta.
I think we could do it.
If you were near a hub or it was easy to drive to if you had, you know, a lot of people in the South or it was an airport that has a number of suppliers, you know, different airport, different companies to fly people there.
No, I encourage everyone again.
We're encouraging you to do a lot in this episode.
We've got to take action.
We're being encouraging.
You know, we get people who write in to us all the time and they say, we should be doing this, we should be doing that.
You know, people, we all need to take action.
We all need to do what we can, whether that's attending a conference, donating to a legal fund, spreading the word on social media.
A movement such as ours relies on the people who make it up, and the individual efforts of everyone.
Every positive action requires that first step, and you'll be surprised how contagious Success is.
And in our eyes, success is being able to disseminate ideas.
And I mean, gosh.
Success is winning.
Ultimately, success is winning.
And again, we only have to win once.
Our enemies have to win every day to shut us down.
Whether it's the VDARE conference that's been shut down, as Mr. Bromo pointed out three or four times now.
the American Resilience Conference, I can remember reading about the horror of what happened in Charlotte back in 2012,
2011.
It was a while ago when the city, when I believe the mayor pro tem actually was at a hand in shutting things down.
He seems to have.
Well he went to jail eventually for corruption, didn't he?
So the curse of American lessons got him.
That's true, just like there's the Trump curse.
You know, public officials who cross our path, it doesn't work out.
They end up being corrupt, it turns out.
Just a big shocker.
Well, that or they end up drinking chocolate milk as a symbolic act of diversity.
Mr. Kersey, of course, is referring to our next item on the agenda, which is the Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner, which I think, can we call him a conservative?
He's a Republican.
That's a sanctuary state because of him.
Speaking to my immigration trust, Illinois is one of the worst in terms of handling illegal immigration.
It is one of the most immigrant impacted states.
Well, if the sanctuary status of the state didn't get him the title, I think that the incident that we will be discussing would certainly do it.
Mr. Rauner, of course, was...
Up for re-election, and so he's going around and, you know, kissing all the babies' heads and doing what's now become a staple of the American electoral campaign, and that is going before various non-white pressure groups.
And so Mr. Rauner made a stop at a diversity seminar, of all things, and he's up there with this diversity guru who's explaining, you know, how important diversity is.
And diversity is one of those things that you've gotta explain why it's good, because people don't really get it otherwise, and usually they go to ethnic food.
Well, this time we didn't go to ethnic food, we went to a different kind of food, because this diversity guy hands Mr. Rauner a glass of white milk, which is supposed to represent the boring, bland, you know, white, Corporate structure, government structure, and then he adds in some delicious chocolate syrup.
But what happens with the syrup?
It goes to the bottom of the glass.
And so he says, you know what?
You got to mix it up because if you just have diversity at the bottom of the company, it's not going to work out.
You got to mix it up so that we stir it up, as he said, so that we can have diversity at all levels.
Only then does it taste great.
And you should have seen the look on Rauner's face.
It was just priceless as he's drinking this milk and talking about how great it is.
And he said, uh, where's, where's this quote?
He says, it's really, really good diversity.
I mean, you just, you just can't make it up the genuflection.
One of the things we learned from the 2016 election is that milk was a symbol of white supremacy.
That's true.
And that's true.
You gotta, you definitely need to mix it up.
Yeah.
You know, the chocolate milk that was put in was obviously artificial.
It was a social construct though, right?
That is true.
That is true.
And it's interesting, you know, I was thinking about the differences between racial diversity and chocolate milk.
And that might actually make a good article.
So maybe I'll have to flesh this out.
But the thing is, with chocolate milk, you don't really need seminars to tell you how good it is.
Do you?
You just kind of take a sip and you're like, wow, that's nice.
But diversity, it's amazing.
There's a whole cottage industry around telling us how we need it.
But it's also inadvertently making the point that it's not going to happen naturally.
Some people are going to sink to the bottom.
You know, I find, I think Illinois is an absolutely fascinating state.
I mean, what Trump has to do, or what the American party, what I call the generic, I don't refer to GOP, I refer to GAP, the generic American party.
has to do is it has to break into the greater New England, the northern tier of states, from Portland, Maine to Portland, Oregon.
It has to expand its share of the white vote by getting into these areas where at the moment the whites do not vote heavily Republican.
Eventually we have to southernize voting patterns so that whites in Connecticut vote 70% Republican.
And if we do that, then GAP can hold on to the presidency for quite a long time, even without any immigration reform.
If you look at Illinois, Trump lost Illinois, Hillary got 55% of the vote in Illinois, but the state is 75% white.
Excuse me, so there's absolutely no reason why he can't carry it if he can mobilize the whites.
If you know Illinois at all, and Lydia's grandparents are from Bradford, Illinois, that's a different world from Chicago.
It's a completely white state outside of Chicago.
And I'm happy to say that the woman who's running against Rauner in the primaries, Jean Ives, actually is challenging on the question of sanctuary cities, which Rauner has pushed through because, of course, he was one of the Republicans who believes he has to appeal to minorities.
Something Trump showed us is not necessary.
You have to mobilize the white base.
Illinois is a key target in that process.
A lot of those states are going to see a lot more outreach, I believe, from Republicans who are going to embrace some of what you're talking about.
It's not going to come overnight.
It's not going to be instantaneous that these people begin to understand the reality of how to win these elections.
And that is to increase the white vote because every effort of outreach to, whether it's been to blacks, whether it's been to Hispanics, whether it's been to Asians, they have not worked.
The one thing that I'll say that I do believe is, bodes quite well for Republicans is the defeat of a lot of these goober, stereotypical candidates such as Roy Moore in Louisiana after, who was the Indian governor that ran?
Bobby Jindal.
When Bobby Jindal, when his term was up, they ran a Roy Moore-esque Republican.
as the candidate for governor and he lost to a Democrat because that just doesn't appeal to people anymore.
You know, I'm not a child of, you know, Henry and I are younger,
so we don't really remember this moral majority nonsense.
We're post that type of influence upon our beliefs when it comes to conservatism.
I think we're probably beyond conservatism too at this point.
But those candidates aren't going to appeal and they're only going to hurt the image and the brand of this new...
Trumpian conservatism that is taking over the Republican Party.
Begrudgingly, but it is.
It is.
We'll see if it takes over.
Of course I like Roy Moore, and I think he was very, very badly treated.
The point I'm making here is not just by the mainstream media, but also by the Republican establishment.
And it's very clear that this alliance between the Chamber of Commerce and the moral majority types only works one way.
In other words, the Chamber of Commerce types will not support the Moral Majority types when they get the upper hand.
They expect to get the Moral Majority people's votes, but it won't work the other way.
They refuse to let it work the other way.
So what that says to me is that the Republican coalition is in very serious trouble.
In the end, they won't support this, not just Moore, who is not up to speed on the immigration issue, for example.
But it's not just more, they won't support any kind of, in the end they won't support any kind of immigration restrictions because they're totally on the cheap label of it.
And it's amazing to me how far the President's gone actually in converting this debate.
I mean he came very close to getting a wall here.
He could have had a wall if he wanted this last week.
He just wouldn't accept the wall without further immigration reform.
So he has actually moved the debate a long way.
And it's surprising what the Republican establishment has swallowed, but, uh, we've got to watch them.
We certainly do.
And, you know, we've got to count on the hope that these people will put up a fight, um, because, you know, there's nothing a Republican likes more than rolling over and, uh, on anything except tax cuts.
And unlike our next heroine, who is Ann Coulter, who is always fighting and always finding
a new way to stick it to the left, and her column this week was tremendous.
Mr. Kersey brought it to my attention.
She went after everyone, all these gun grabbers, and she said, here's a novel way to end mass
shootings.
Why don't we end immigration?
Because about half of the mass shooters over the past several decades have been, since
2000, 47% of them have been committed by first or second generation immigrants.
And these are, you know, mass shootings like Fort Hood, San Bernardino, Virginia Tech, Pulse nightclub, all committed by first or second generation immigrants.
So if we didn't have Teddy's 1965 Act, we wouldn't have had these shootings.
Stands to reason.
And a lot of that research that Ann's using her column that of course came from VDare.com which has done a tremendous job in cataloging and chronicling this... What is the term you guys use?
We call it Immigrant Mass Murder Syndrome.
Whenever we see a shooting, James Fulford goes to work and guess what?
It turns out that a disproportionate number of them are.
We list them on the site and we also have a tag so you can follow them as we comment on it.
But there is a definitive list that we have to keep updating on the site.
Regrettably.
And it's gotten into high numbers now.
I'll just look it up.
But what was our count?
Sixteen, I think.
No, it's higher than that.
We go back a long way, you see, unlike Ann, who only goes back to 2000.
There's some very famous murders and so on that were done by, for example, there was a case in the 60s where there was a plane crash.
It was a hijacking done by a steward, a flight steward.
And you know, it's a famous event, but unless you actually go back and look at it, you don't realize he was actually black because he was a Barbadian immigrant or something.
Well, we almost had another one this past week.
Added to the list, Alwin Chin, who's an Asian fellow from Germantown, Maryland, was arrested at school with a loaded handgun in his backpack.
And when police searched his home, they found an AR-15, a tactical vest, A C4 landmine detonator, replica grenades, and a list of grievances.
And, as I say, he was arrested with a loaded gun at school.
So, one can only assume that Mr. Chin is a first or second generation immigrant, so we may have had another one on the list.
There was another case just after the shooting in Florida.
Two Hispanics were arrested, wanting to shoot up a charter school in Manhattan.
And that case just vanished completely from the mainstream media coverage.
We have 595 people killed and 1,500 wounded.
It goes back a long way.
We have 595 people killed and 1500 wounded going back to after the war.
It goes back a long way.
The cases we have as early as the 1900s.
Do you remember Juan Corona, the case in California?
He killed 25 people, serial killer.
People don't realise he was an immigrant.
In fact, Frank Lloyd Wright's cook was a barbarian who killed seven people in his home, and that was back in 1914.
It's a pattern.
How do people get to that on your site?
They may be interested in seeing the list.
Yeah, you can look at the tags, in which case it's immigrant mass murder.
But if you go to frequently asked questions, there's a discussion there of what is immigrant mass murder and what the current count is.
I'd recommend going to Google and typing in VDARE and Immigrant Mass Murder Syndrome because that's an awesome term that we should definitely try and get memed into reality and get more people talking about the consequences.
And then there's Disgruntled Minority Massacre Syndrome which is a complete separatist.
We could talk about Omar Thornton.
Where you get native African-Americans shooting people up in the workplace which they do with surprising regularity.
Obviously what somebody should have pushed for back in 2016 was for a CNN or A CNN town hall after the Black Lives Matter supporters shot up and killed five white cops.
There should have definitely been a town hall meeting like we saw with the kids from Parkland.
On CNN, embarrassingly attacking Marco Rubio.
I must say, I continue to be puzzled as to what happened in Las Vegas, which is a far bigger murder.
We can't talk about that on air.
Shut it down.
Exactly.
I mean, again, I remember the day it happened.
I think I actually called Mr. Wolf, and I had some friends that were in Las Vegas, so I was actually worried for a little while.
Then I remembered that they didn't really like country music when I found out about that, so I'm like, okay, they're not going to be there unless they're chasing women.
I will say this, and we'll move forward because this isn't the Alex Jones Radio Network.
I will say this, though.
Outside of a state-sanctioned action, that is the largest mass killing with a gun in human history that we know of.
And it is shocking that we know absolutely nothing.
The media has not tried to do what they're doing with the promoting of this Parkland shooting.
And that's, I think, Mr. Brimlow's right there, too.
The hysteria around the shooting has just been unbelievable.
And, you know, they initially tried to, the media got pranked initially, which was a hilarious story, into thinking that it was associated, that the shooter was associated with some white nationalist militia group down in Florida.
Just a couple enterprising people on a Discord server pranked them into believing that, and the AP announced it.
They said, we have confirmed the links, and ABC News said that we've spoken with no fewer than three of his classmates.
And this was probably just all guys on this Discord server, but, you know, who needs the media to get any more discredited?
And the ADL as well, because they also confirmed the link.
They had strong reason to suspect.
They carefully hedged their language.
As we speak, gentlemen, the meeting of the year is going on right now, and I know we're all itching to get back to our seats in the audience there, right?
We're of course talking about CPAC.
Which actually I hear is quite dull this year.
It's apparently attendance is down, the main ballroom, nobody's really going.
And there are fewer vendors, but I must say I'm watching Vida's Twitter feed while you're talking, Henry, and we report that the immigration discussion, which is on now, is packed.
Oh, well, I'm sure it's... Although everybody except Ralph Hallow, the Washington Times Well, I was going to say, I'm sure it's not packed with restrictionists.
Not on the panel, at least.
Probably everyone in the audience.
But everyone's hoping to hear just a couple whispers about immigration restriction, which is of course the biggest issue.
happening right now.
I mean, this talk about the Dreamers and all that, and the pending legislation.
But, you know, they're not going to discuss that.
That would be too verboten.
They'll just talk about cutting taxes even deeper than they already have.
You've spoken about CPACs in the past where you developed an affinity for Donald Trump.
When he spoke about how our immigration system makes no sense, Mr. Wolf.
That's true.
When he said, I have a European friend who wants to come here.
And that's when you said you took notice of him.
That's true.
A little bit of trivia is I actually had Mr. Taylor write him a letter.
This is before he ever announced his candidacy.
Just a shot in the dark, basically, because I'd seen his CPAC talks where he talked about how amnesty would be the suicide of the GOP, that zero of those people amnestied would ever vote GOP.
And then in a separate speech, he pointed out that America needs more European immigrants, that his friends who are over there who graduate from top schools, they can't get in.
And so I had Mr. Taylor actually write him a letter, just, you know, introducing ourselves, seeing if he was interested in working with us on anything.
But, you know, we didn't hear back.
So that must have not passed the gatekeepers.
I doubt he has gatekeepers.
He probably just, well...
Who knows how he works, but what strikes me about Trump is how fantastically good his instincts are.
I don't know if you've read this Michael Wolff book, Fire and Fury, but when Charlottesville happened, Trump was completely alone because at that point he'd fall out with, what's his name from Breitbart?
Steve Bannon.
Steve Bannon.
And it was just him by himself who started to reject the narrative, the obviously coordinated narrative.
But go ahead, Henry, I'm interrupting here.
No, no.
I mean, it is interesting that Donald Trump was allowed to speak, and they always kind of throw one bone to people.
I mean, the really big question is, why isn't Ann Cole speaking?
Well, exactly.
She's written the most important book to influence an election since Uncle Tom's Cabin.
And she's no longer invited to speak.
Well, they did have one young blonde there to take her place, and that was Marion Le Pen.
And that, of course, caused a major uproar.
You had the usual cucks, you know, flapping their wrists about this.
The Reagan battalion, you know, called her a national socialist.
I even read in the American Conservative a big hit piece about her, which said that... Everyone hold on!
She and her party favor higher taxes.
This is unconscionable.
Evan McMullin, the ex-CIA agent who ran and people thought it was going to potentially win Utah and take that state away from Trump, he's got some non-profit now and they're tweeting out that, hey, this is really crazy that CPAC is now really going the way of Trump by allowing this xenophobe anti-Muslim to speak.
And it's like, no, actually we should be, all CPAC, that's all we should be allowed to speak.
It's what CPAC should be.
She seems to have been the only person who talked about this, the major issue of identity.
Even if she didn't go, you know, as far as we might like her to go, she still, she still said some fantastic things.
And Mr. Kersey, I know you watched the whole thing, but I've got a couple, a couple, well, one paraphrase and then a couple of quotes here.
She said, um, She said that the younger generation in France has been brainwashed with guilt and they haven't been able, therefore, to withstand massive Islamic invasion, as she termed it.
And she said, quote, that terrorism is only the tip of the iceberg.
She said, quote, we don't want an atomized world of individuals without gender, without father, without mother and without nation.
And that's really the crucial thing.
I mean, she talked about identity.
And you heard the applause in the audience because I watched that clip.
To me, there was a line that was powerful.
I'm paraphrasing, but it was, we're not about worshipping the ashes of the past, but preserving the fire for the future.
Well, that, I mean, must have struck a lot of them dead because they're over there, you know, genuflecting at their I've been going to CPAC since before you were born.
single speech that day. I mean, how many speeches did not mention Ronald Reagan?
You know, I've thankfully... An honest bet. I thankfully have never been to CPAC. I don't
think I'd ever want to go knowing the... You know, I've been going to CPAC since
before you were born. At least certainly since, let me just think, before Reagan.
God, the years are going by, aren't they?
But I guess I first went there in 75, 76.
Were you born in 75?
No, I was not.
And the thing is, you know, the audience is good.
The people who actually go, that's the most interesting thing.
The actual people who show up there.
I mean, a lot of them are careerists and so on.
College Republican types.
Yeah, but still, the audience is good there.
I mean, and that's what Lydia, who's there today, is reporting.
Listen to this from Liberals.
This is from David Beer.
Beer?
B-I-E-R.
Do you know him from Cater?
How's it pronounced?
Beer?
Anyway, Liberals want to take away... He's at the immigration panel.
Liberals want to take away your guns, your money, and build a wall.
I think there's six people in this room that bought that line and the room shouts back, not even!
I mean, they've lost control of the audience.
They do not have control of the audience on this subject.
The libertarian moment is totally past.
It's totally past.
It's gone.
I mean, you go to their functions now.
I used to go to like the SFL conference, Students for Liberty conference, just in the evenings just to see what's going on.
And I went there this past year and just nobody's there.
People are in the bar just throwing them back, talking about how great it was a couple of years ago.
It's entirely their own fault, you know.
I mean, again, you're too young to remember this.
But, you know, the pale libertarian synthesis that Rothbard came up with, that Rand Paul was originally going with, you know, actually made a lot of sense.
There was a moment when Rand Paul could have borne the torch of that.
And we thought that he would.
And you all will remember the exact moment it changed.
And that's when he questioned Freedom of association whether we should be allowed to have it and then the next he took the heat and then the next day he folded and Then you know we saw in this past election just the embarrassing spectacle of him in a campaign ad sawing the tax code While wearing a shirt that says Detroit Republican
I mean, this is the way he decided to go.
And, of course, it was a total failure.
He got humiliated by Trump.
And Rand Paul could have been a smarter Donald Trump, right?
He could have gone that route.
I think he still can be.
I would actually argue that Rand Paul is rehabilitating and he's been a strong ally of President Trump.
I agree with that.
He has seemed to smell which way the wind is blowing.
And he articulates an American first foreign policy, which, of course, Le Pen was very adamant to say in her speech that American first, it's smart to be that way.
You should look out for your country first.
That's what we want to do.
And to me, CPAC, we're going to get to this in a second, but what they should have done is offer a guy like Steve King a chance to speak and even maybe reach out to someone from Poland or Hungary to come over and speak about why what President Trump is trying to do is so important.
Unfortunately, we know what CPAC is actually doing.
They're trying to deny people who are questioning any of the egalitarian myths that prop up this Potemkin village that is the United States of America in 2018.
And that can only be the free speech panel that was cancelled, Mr. Wolf.
Yeah, that's true.
There was a panel which was going to be hosted during a breakout session, which was going to have Jim Hoft, Pamela Geller, James O'Keefe, James Damore, and they were going to talk about online censorship, which of course would have been a relevant topic.
But then it had to be canceled because apparently someone from CPAC called Pam Geller and told her that Jim Hoft is a nasty guy because his site, The Gateway Pundit, had run some pieces questioning some of the aspects of
these kids who are promoting gun control now. And she, appreciating the irony, decided to
cancel the panel because it's a free speech.
If I may interject real quick, for our listeners who might not be familiar with these names, Pam Geller is a very outspoken critic of the Islamization of America.
Fantastic work that she does on that front.
James O'Keefe is, of course, the director of Project Veritas, and James Damore was the gentleman who was let go from Google when he published that brilliant manifesto on diversity.
Yep, and I should say that it wasn't CPAC who reached out to them, it was the group that was hosting the panel called the American Principles Project, whatever that is.
But that might have actually been an interesting panel, but now we're forced to go without it.
But as we approach the end of our podcast, I thought we'd go ahead and do something that'd be a little bit fun, which is talk about if we could create our own CPAC panel, what would it be about?
And Mr. Kersey, did you want to kick that off?
Yeah, I'll kick it off.
I think that it's with one of the topics we talked about already, what's going on in Africa, and more importantly, not just the macro look at Africa, the continent, but the micro look at South Africa.
And I believe that a panel would be what post-apartheid South Africa has to tell the coming white minority in America.
The conditions of post-apartheid South Africa are The exact opposite of what we were told the Rainbow Utopia was going to bring about when the Afrikaners decided that they would rather play international rugby than have a nation of their own, as the movie Invictus so quite tragically shows.
And unfortunately there are a lot of parallels with white Americans' devotion to professional sports, which I think we're seeing that Wayne a little bit, which is fantastic.
But there are so many terrifying parallels and we see those in cities like Baltimore and Detroit and other places where whites have been displaced and there is a ironclad black control of the city governments and the consequences of that are devastating both for private property values and for the ability to actually accumulate wealth if you stay in those cities or to try and get a job with the city governments.
Which is, of course, in South Africa with the black economic, with black empowerment, BE, whatever it is.
That is the model for what type of programs will be implemented when whites are a minority and this coalition of the fringes decides to try and divide pieces of the pie to their various groups.
Well, Mr. Chrissy, I don't see how we could talk about South Africa at CPAC unless they're privatizing roads.
Why even bother with it?
You know, Henry, what I'd like to do is have a debate, which we actually already had on Feedday.com a few years ago between Jared Taylor And Steve Saylor, who has written for many years on the issue of white nationalism versus civic nationalism, or what Saylor calls citizenism.
And Jared, of course, now calls white nationalism, what is it, white advocacy or something?
He's retreated from the term because it's so badly smeared.
But it is a fundamental issue, and it's a really important debate, and it's not going to happen at CPAC.
I hope it will happen in California because we're about to announce our fourth conference.
But if it doesn't happen, maybe you should try to amend it sometime.
Well, CPAC still needs to get to a point where they're even defending civic nationalism.
I mean, it's telling that the alt-right figures who really have a lot of the energy in the conservative movement, I would put them in the conservative movement, they You were conspicuously absent from CPAC.
I think Mike Cernovich said that he was going to do something.
I don't know what ended up happening with that.
But that would have been an interesting development if they had a strong presence there.
And I think they probably would have brought in a lot of people, because as I say, that's where a lot of the energy is.
As you can see by all the events that he's put on across the country.
Yeah, he had something like a thousand people at his event in New York City or something, or 600.
In any case, yeah, that would be a fantastic debate, but, you know, CPAC, they are only willing to even dog whistle toward civic nationalism at this point.
They're still playing footsie with libertarianism more so than that, which is, as I say, totally useless.
What would be your panel, Mr. Wolff?
Well, my panel would be called Conservatism After the Presidency.
And what it would address is what fate there is for the conservative movement once the presidency is completely lost to them because of demographic changes which they've presided over.
And what I mean is that by maybe 2020, certainly I think by 2024, I think it will be out of reach for the Republicans to regain the presidency because of demographic change.
Maybe Mr. Brimlow would disagree with me on that.
But...
Well, it's time.
You're right on the trend.
The question is when.
The question is when.
It will happen.
And so the panel would be relevant, you know, whether it happens in 5, 10 or 20 years.
And if I may humbly say so, it's what I talked about at AMREN in two thousand and, uh, when was it?
Fifteen.
Well, you are the sage.
Uh, yeah, well, I didn't predict, uh, well, I guess I said that it would only take a... It only takes one.
...a proviso, and it'd only take one speech to get the immigration issue going, and as it turned out, it only took one soundbite.
That's right.
Well, it's only, I think it's only gonna take one soundbite to, from a well, from a, um, Whether it's a congressman or senator or a presidential candidate to actually try and get white people to understand the importance that in this coming white minority that current projections show that we face, white people have an identity that's worth protecting as well.
And we have interests that are unique to ourselves.
And to our children and to our posterity.
Steve King had a pretty close one when he said, you can't maintain a civilization with someone else's babies.
Steve King has done a lot of good stuff and we'll leave it at that.
It was pretty close.
But yeah, I think that, you know, talking about once the federal government is lost, certainly the executive branch is lost to conservatives, what do they do?
And at that point, I actually think libertarianism and libertarian arguments may become more relevant again as you start seeing This kind of situation, yeah, this situation like Hunger Games, where you've got, you know, Pan Am, this decadent capital, which is sucking resources from the rest of the country.
And all these, all the real people on the outside of this, you know, these super zips, as Charles Murray called them, inside the beltway in New York City and San Francisco.
As wealth starts concentrating there and middle America just gets increasingly hollowed out, I think that things like federalism will start to become more important, small government will have a much more existential meaning to it, and if conservatism is going to stay relevant at all, they're going to have to adopt a much more, I don't want to say anti-government, we'll say libertarian posture.
So that would be that would be what I would look for.
Well, gentlemen, I appreciate you all coming in the studio.
And we've run a little bit past our typical time, but we had a lot to cover.
And we, of course, had we had an excellent panel.
So thank you both for coming and joining in studio for this edition of Radio Renaissance.
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This is a battle that has ramifications for every Twitter account that's out there when it comes to being able to engage in the national dialogue.
And of course, with 2018 approaching, the elections, there's so many reasons we have to be more vocal than we've ever been.
And because of Jared, and because of Peter, because of the leadership you guys have shown, We have the opportunity to stand on the shoulder of giants.
Because remember, we only have to win once.
And those opposing us, they have to win every day and put up fake argument after fake argument after fake argument and use every apparatus of power that they've struggled to hold on to.
And guess what?
As Jared and I always point out, and Henry knows this, we have truth on our side.
That's right.
Well, toward victory.
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