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Nov. 3, 2017 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Will We Live on an African Planet?
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Welcome ladies and gentlemen to another edition of Renaissance Radio.
This is your regular host Jared Taylor back with our regular and indispensable guest Paul Kersey.
I'm sorry to have been away from the microphone for a few weeks but I had a legitimate excuse.
I was traveling giving lectures in Europe and also one in Memphis, Tennessee.
But I understand that Henry Wolfe did a brilliant job replacing me and that the
The fans are in fact clamoring for Henry!
We've had enough of Taylor!
Keep Henry on the mic!
In any case, I've shoved him aside and your usual host is back with our usual guest.
Mr. Taylor, if I may cut in real quick, we don't have it on our discussion, on our outline here to talk about, but just tell us briefly about what you did in Europe.
Certainly. I was invited to give two talks, one in Dublin, Ireland, and one in Amsterdam.
And the one in Dublin, Ireland was a smaller group, but the identitarian movement is kind of just starting up there.
Immigration into Ireland is not nearly as advanced in other places, and like all white people everywhere, White people learn best from direct experience.
And because they haven't had really that much of a problem so far, and it's pretty much restricted only to the big cities, the movement is just getting going.
But it was a very encouraging meeting with, as usual, smart, well-turned-out, nice-looking, well-educated young white people who are really concerned about the future of their country.
This was also my first visit to Ireland, which was a lovely country and full of wonderful, welcoming people.
I had a couple of days to spend sightseeing, and it was a very, very satisfying and worthwhile trip.
My second talk, well as I say, it was supposed to be in Amsterdam, but it got moved to Rotterdam.
Because of certain pressures on venue.
And just as was the case in the Dublin meeting, because there are no publicly owned facilities that have a First Amendment or equivalent obligation to let people hold meetings even if they are unpopular, both in Dublin and in Rotterdam, people were not told where the meeting was and they had to go to a redirection point.
Now, the meeting in Rotterdam was particularly impressive because even though they did it in this indirect way, and in the case of the Rotterdam meeting, every single participant was screened.
Every member of the audience was screened beforehand because they were taking no chances.
They still had about 150 people from many countries all around Europe, and it was again a really impressive group of people.
It was put on by an organization called Erkenbrand.
Erkenbrand means purified by flame or a sword purified by flame, which I think is a very, very appropriate name.
As it turns out, that is a name that was actually hijacked before the Erkenbrand group got going by the author of Lord of the Rings.
Tolkien had used it from one of his characters.
Tolkien had this interest, of course, in Norse this and runic that, and he had actually used the name, but it's strictly pure coincidence.
But Tolkien fans will recognize that name.
In any case, these were both very, very encouraging meetings.
And the one in Rotterdam, there were actually some members of the European Parliament, traveling in heavy incognito, I might say.
The speakers included not just me, but Guillaume de Rocher, who has written for American Renaissance, also Robert Stoikers.
Robert Stoikers, a New Right philosopher, a very, very high-profile guy, and also Millennial Woes.
Millennial Woes spoke at the event in Dublin as well.
He's really quite an engaging speaker, and really both conferences were huge successes.
I'm very, very encouraged by the number of white people waking up all around the world.
There's one thing we also don't have on here that I think is vital we talk about briefly.
What just happened in South Africa.
Yes, yes.
You're talking about the Black Monday.
Yes, that was an extremely important thing.
This was something that happened as a result of one of those typical farm murders.
That happened in late October, and this was a spontaneous arising of white South Africans.
Just four, five, six days later, social media got these people going, and I haven't seen any actual estimates of the number of people who've turned out, but you see photographs of hundreds of people, hundreds of automobiles, people blocking roads, demonstrating against this massacre of white farmers.
Very, very important. We have an article about that written by our South Africa correspondent, Dan Root.
He is really an absolutely wonderful guy.
I agree. And when something like this happens, he really summarizes it brilliantly.
He sees this as a possible watershed.
As he had pointed out, so far mostly white South Africans had vetted their anger through social media.
They don't really get out and raise hell.
Of course, white people don't get out and raise hell anywhere.
But for the first time, white South Africans...
Congregated by their hundreds.
It might have been by the thousands because there were many demonstrations all over the country.
They stopped traffic.
They really attracted worldwide attention.
And I think this was a hugely, hugely important thing.
Now, the great sin that the demonstrators committed, as you know, was...
I'll let you spell it out.
Well, waving the old South Africa flag.
You know, media were all over these people, hoping to hear them say such things as, I don't know, N-words, and talking about kafirs, which is their equivalent of the N-word.
Correct. But they couldn't find anybody doing anything hateful.
So the worst they could find is, here they are waving the old South Africa flag.
This is the flag from before black rule.
And, obviously, anybody who does that is a vicious white supremacist.
The other thing is, some of them were singing Distem, which is the old South African national anthem.
Apparently now it's hateful to talk about our ancestors and the future and the glorious South Africa.
No, no, no, no, no.
Can't do that. That was the worst they could find.
Mostly, as Dan Root points out, when Boers, when Afrikaners get together to demonstrate, one of the things they do is pray.
There was a lot of prayer going on.
And not even the worst and most vicious lefties have yet got to the point where when white people are praying, that's a sign of racism.
But I suspect we'll get there eventually.
They're getting there. You know, you once told me the picture that you wanted to get.
To have was the image during, I think it was 1994, when a couple of Afrikaners were in a car and it crashed.
And then the two Afrikaners were lying there.
There were press all around.
And then one of the members, I guess, of the African National Congress or one of the black military groups just walked up and...
Summarily executed the guy right there in front of the press.
Yes, yes. Well, this was in Bofutatswana.
Botswana was one of the homelands that the apartheid regime had set aside for
blacks in what they called Grand Apartheid. The idea was to divvy up the
entire country, parts for blacks, parts for whites. They went, they were a little
bit too greedy though. The parts that were set aside for blacks were really
pretty small. But when the African National Congress got voted in,
Botswana, there was a movement within Botswana to remain an independent country. They said, hey, we've got our...
We like it. And there was a group of whites who came in, sort of volunteer fighters, to support Bofdatswana's independence.
Well, the South African army shot them all up.
And it was really basically a rout.
But one of the groups who had come in, they've been shot up, and they're lying there, wounded.
I think there were three or four of them.
And the South African police guy, or I think he was a policeman or an army guy, I don't remember, but just walked up and summarily shot him to death.
Now, this was all very well recorded by the world's media, but there is one photograph that I've seen, and I've never seen it reproduced anywhere, is a photograph taken from further back.
Of these guys being executed with an enormous scrum of cameramen and television crew members, all white, filming the whole thing.
It is an extraordinary photograph.
It was in black and white, and I saw it once someplace and I've never seen it again.
I'd love to see that again, but here it is.
In front of the world's media, all of the world's white media, standing back, filming, photographing while a black man shoots these helpless, wounded white men.
Why I brought that up is because one of the subjects we're going to be talking about later is kind of, is that picture a harbinger for the future?
For not just whites, the whites remaining in the continent of Africa, but for whites worldwide.
So that's a little bit of a tease for what we're going to get to at the end of this podcast.
That's right. Do we have an African world in our future?
That is the question.
In any case, of course, the big news event that we must talk about is the New York truck attack.
And, you know, the fellow's name is apparently Saifullo Habibulaevik Saipov.
Now, to me, I think you could legitimately just refuse entry to anybody with a name like that.
But I suppose I'm being prejudiced.
Or you should refuse entry to anybody who looks like this guy.
He's just a typical over-the-top jihadi.
Look at that. Have you seen pictures of him with that weird beard?
Oh, boy. I mean, obviously bad news.
Well, tell us about this guy.
He did what we've seen so often in Europe.
So tragically, as becoming the norm in England, becoming the norm in France, basically he used, he rented a truck at Home Depot and ended up running over a number of individuals.
Eight people are dead, 20 are injured.
And this comes on the heels of the New York Marathon.
And I've been watching the news.
They are literally doing what we're seeing.
And all of Europe, Mr.
Taylor, to keep the marathon safe, they're putting cinder blocks all throughout the 26.2 mile route so that anywhere where a car could come on and conceivably target and mow down a number of these runners, they're making that impossible.
So once again, if you don't build borders around your country, you have to build borders within your cities, landmarks, and key events to make sure they're safe.
Well, I think this guy is quite interesting.
He's bragging about what he did, and he's in the hospital now.
I think it's just as well that he was spared.
I want this guy to go on trial and say, Allah Akbar from the witness stand, but he wants an ISIS flag hung in his hospital room.
I think that's a very colorful touch.
But yes, you were talking about putting up these bollards and barriers.
Just yesterday, I was listening on National Public Radio.
And National Public Radio is all concerned about, gee, this is not good.
How can we prevent or mitigate problems like this?
And what they had on was a guest who is the president of the American Association of Architects.
Now, I don't remember his name, but he gave us a very useful little physics lesson.
He's talking about these truck attacks.
He says the faster they go, the more dangerous they are.
And, in fact, he talked about how energy is mass times velocity squared.
It goes up as a proportion to mass, but it's a square velocity.
So the faster the truck gets to go, the more energy it has, the more people it can kill.
So, he's not saying, keep the clowns out, keep the muzzies out, keep the killers out.
He says, once they're here, the best way to mitigate the problem is to slow down traffic in our cities.
He's talking about ways to keep things moving slowly.
And the National Public Radio interview is sort of nodding.
Yeah, yeah, I guess that's what we have to do.
And this guy is suggesting roads, new roads should be built in a serpentine manner so that traffic moves more slowly.
And so not only are we going to put bollards up, these ugly bollards, these concrete barriers to keep people from going where they always used to go, but we're going to make sure that traffic in cities goes slowly, Mr.
Kersey. Now, doesn't that reassure you and satisfy and make you feel safer?
I mean, again, a city should be walkable and livable.
You think back to the architecture of these cities that have been around.
New York is a grand place to visit.
Our president, he started out in Queens, but then he went to Manhattan and he walked around and he saw what was becoming a slum.
He writes about this in Art of the Deal.
He saw what was becoming a slum city in the 70s, but he saw this grand architecture.
You walk around there and you realize that the people who built these buildings in the 1920s, that was in the infancy of cars.
Not everyone, of course, had access to cars.
People were still on horses.
People were still in street cars.
I envision a future, hopefully, where we actually try and get rid of cars in major cities and we make them walkable.
We have some form of public transportation that you cut down.
That's such a great expense.
Think about how much we spend on insurance, as most Americans living in a suburban lifestyle.
But To me, the really striking thing about this terror attack was a couple stories that I saw that were on Twitter.
A shout out to one of my favorite Twitterers, I guess you'd say that, a tolerant fellow, pointed out that someone, I think it may have been CNN, said that Americans must get used to living with these terror attacks.
This is the future now.
And it's like, well, what?
Why? What are you talking about?
I know. What?
The mayor of London was saying the same thing after the latest set of terror attacks.
We just have to get used to this.
And the idea of we either have to get used to this and we need to mitigate the problem by slowing traffic down rather than keeping the terrorists and potential terrorists out.
Why is that so difficult for them to grasp?
Anyway. Well, we'll get to that, I think, also, a tease a little later when we talk about a subject here in a couple seconds, why it's so difficult to grasp.
Because the state, again, the state exists in this hyper world of egalitarianism, Mr.
Taylor, where any deviation, any deviation from the goal of equality is going to be a...
I mean, basically, we have a lapse right now with President Trump.
Because remember, what did President Trump tweet out immediately?
President Trump basically doubled down and said, this guy should be executed.
We need to get rid of the diversity lottery.
President Trump is a guy, I mean, imagine had Hillary been in office here, what her response would have been.
As a former senator for the great state of New York, her response would have been, hey, we have to make sure that there isn't any backlash against the Muslim community.
Whereas, just this past month, we saw the Las Vegas terror attack, which we still know literally nothing about.
We know no motive for Paddock.
But the reaction was, somehow this is the fault of all white men with guns.
Now, in this case, we have yet another Muslim terror attack by a guy who was brought in from the diversity.
I mean, how draconian a name can you get?
I mean, I put out a tweet that got a massive response.
You know, the diversity visa lottery sounds like something from the Hunger Games.
It's macabre.
What does this even mean?
Well, yes.
Let's talk about this diversity visa lottery.
It was apparently created in 1990.
And Charles Schumer, our good friend Charles Schumer, he was working together with Teddy Kennedy to start this thing.
And what it is, it just doles out residency in the United States on the basis of a lottery, a worldwide lottery.
You put in your name and it's drawn out of a hat, and that means 50,000 people.
The idea was to...
Overcome the fact that most people come to the United States today, it's by family reunification.
And if you happen to be in Uzbek, which this Saifullo Habibulayavik Saipoff was, you probably don't have many family members living in the United States.
So the idea is these people must not be kept out.
They too must be let in.
Also, Teddy Kennedy was partly behind this because there weren't enough Irishmen coming in.
They didn't have relatives here enough, so partly it was referred to as the Irish lottery at one time.
Now the Irish are way down the list on who gets in, but you get, let's see, last year there were 15 million applications worldwide for the 50,000 slots.
50 million.
And all you need is a high school education to apply.
And guess where, guess which country sends the most people?
Well, it's not just a country, it's a continent, and that is Africa.
Well, about half come from Africa, but the country that sends in the most is Nepal, 3,370 last year.
Next is Egypt, 3,456.
Next is Iran, 2,661.
Next is Congo, 2,641.
Now, do we really need more Nepalese, Egyptians, Iranians, and Congolese?
Uzbekistan, which is where Mr.
Saipov came in 2010, they were fifth on the list with 2,378 winners.
New Americans all, no doubt.
And it costs nothing to apply, you know.
And if you win, then you can bring your spouse and all of your minor children.
And in some places, the winners become celebrities.
And women will pay money to marry them so they can come along with.
And I don't know whether or not they recognize polygamy in the lottery here, but some countries recognize polygamy.
I bet you that if they come from a Muslim country and they have four wives, which Islam allows, I bet they can bring all four.
What do you think? Without a doubt.
I mean, one of the stories we're hearing is that...
Mr. Saifoulou brought over 23 members of his family to the United States of America since he came here in 2010.
That's right. Sponsored 23 members.
Yep, yep. Quite remarkable.
So this figure of 50,000 doesn't sound like many, but it is just the tip of the iceberg.
Now, the Congressional Black Caucus loves the diversity lottery because it keeps bringing in so many Africans.
So we will see.
We will see just what power President Trump has, what his powers of persuasion are.
And given this latest attack, we'll see if we can manage to get rid of this.
But think about it, though.
What serious country hands out residency, residency which can lead to citizenship, on the basis of a lottery?
Has any country ever in the world treated its residency or its citizenship as if they were door prizes or something?
Minister Abban Fox News pointed out that the elite of the United States basically
view immigration as, for lack of a better term, a continuation of war upon the
majority of Americans. He keeps talking about how why would the elite tolerate
such a insane campaign where you don't have a chance to vet these people
Everything you just said, these people are considered heroes when they win.
It is like some sort of movie where these individuals are offered a form of welfare.
The only thing I can even compare this to on a micro level is articles where you read about Section 8 lotteries that take place in municipalities across America where you will see maybe...
A couple hundred new Section 8 vouchers available, but then you'll have 30,000 to 40,000 people apply just to be part of the lottery, to be in this system.
And when you look at the numbers, that is the equivalent of As you said, for 2016 numbers, 15 million people applied worldwide for 50,000 visa slots.
And you have to wonder, how are these even promoted?
How do people in these countries even understand?
How much taxpayer dollars are being put into promoting and marketing?
You know, I'm not sure it's even marketed anymore.
Everybody in the whole world now knows about it.
And you can apply for free by internet.
And apparently in these really poor countries where most people don't have internet access, internet cafe owners do a booming business during the application period.
And they charge money to show you the right website, etc.
There is a vetting thing.
Apparently it's not very good because we got this Hypov guy.
But they do have a physical examination, I believe.
You can't have running sores all over your body.
And also, you can't have a criminal background.
But I bet the Uzbekistan criminal background checks are pretty spotty.
What do you reckon? Well, I think we can say that because, well, look what happened with the Uber.
This gentleman was an Uber driver.
I'm sorry, he was a Lyft.
I want to say he was an Uber driver because people pointed out on Twitter that you...
We're banned, I believe.
Are you banned from- No, I've been discouraged.
I've been warned. I've been warned.
Well, the big story that exists out there is that- The independent journalist Laura Loomer tweeted out some disparaging things about Muslim drivers and then she was immediately banned by this platform.
And this became a big story that here's this independent journalist who happens to run afoul by pointing out that a number of the drivers in the New York area are Muslim.
This gentleman who just committed this heinous terror attack who was only in the country because of this diversity visa lottery.
She tweeted this out and she was banned from the platform.
Well, that's the typical story here.
All of our internet giants, all of our Silicon Valley multi-millionaires from a young age, they are now in a position to decide who is acceptable and who is not.
There are some lawsuits going on that may change that a little bit, but we hope something gets done about that.
But we now live in an astonishing situation in which somebody who is 28 years old can decide what kind of thinking is acceptable in America, Who they will do business with and who they will not, strictly on the base of their political views or opinions they've expressed.
We live in astonishing times, as I've said probably a hundred times on these various Renaissance radio podcasts.
You know, technocratic egalitarianism is probably the greatest threat to the proliferation of our ideas.
Exactly. At the same time, though, this system that's been created has a way of showcasing just how Volatile the elites' opinions of whites really are.
And I think that's where we come to the next conversation point.
Yes, yes, this 4chan campaign.
It's hard to imagine anything simpler than this.
These 4chan people on the politically incorrect subreddit or whatever it is, subgroup of 4chan.
Poll, yeah. Poll, yes, P-O-L. They decided to encourage people to put up signs, simply black text on white paper saying, it's okay to be white.
And these went up in Tulane University and various other cities.
And everybody, of course, is in a terrible tizzy about this.
As the University of Alberta in Toronto, Canada, this went up.
And I thought it was quite fascinating.
In a statement posted...
To the university website, the president of University of Alberta, David Turpin, he says, the university is aware of several incidents of racism that have occurred on North Campus in recent days.
Also, the It's Okay to be White posters were up on the doors of Montgomery Blair High School in Silver Spring.
And as the article describing it in the Washington Post says, it's apparently as part of an effort to spark racial division.
And the principal sent a letter home to families informing them that the signs were discovered and removed by staff.
A letter out to all families!
Watch out! These dangerous signs!
Now, the fascinating and amazing thing about this is that the people who set it up on 4chan said the whole idea was to point out that normies are going to discover just how much the elite and school administrators hate white people when they take down a sign that says, It's okay to be white.
And they fell for it.
It is a stunning piece of propaganda.
Before we started talking about this, you were unaware of the breadth of this incredible campaign.
Brilliant is an understatement to illustrate just how enormous the pressure is to keep any conversation of white identity or whether you want to call it reverse racism, double standards, which I think are misnomers.
Really, it's just the standard.
The elite of our country and the Western world are doing everything they can to discourage and even criminalize Public displays of white identity.
And as we see in Alberta, their major newspaper actually had this on the front page of their newspaper as if trying to associate a simple message of it's okay to be white with a form of terrorism.
That's how their police are going to investigate this.
You know, well, it's the same at the school in not far from us, the Montgomery Blair High School in Silver Spring, Maryland.
The principal, Renee Johnson, she wrote to say, our research so far has indicated that this may be part of a concerted national campaign to foment racial and political tension.
Boy, oh boy, just by saying it's okay to be white.
It's okay to be white. Now, American Renaissance has a whole series of posters, too.
They say such things as, don't be ashamed of being white.
Don't let these people intimidate you.
It's okay.
We hadn't put it as simply as that, it's okay to be white.
But we actually said, it's okay to be proud to be white.
All of this stuff, which for every other group, would go down without a gurgle.
If you simply say it's okay to be white, that is Nazism, white supremacy, these people want to bring back slavery, and I think these 4chan people are right.
Ordinary white people will see the tizzy.
No, this is a terrible racist incident.
They will see the tizzy that the authorities get into, and a few light bulbs will go off in their heads.
Look at it this way, dissecting the principal's comments just a little bit further.
Think about it. A concerted national campaign to foment racial and political tension in our school and community.
There was no call to action, though, besides trying to tell people in a declarative manner, it's okay to be white.
There was no website to go to.
There was no, you know, this is brought to you by X group.
It was simply a brilliant, tactical campaign.
Effort by some wonderful people at 4chan who simply realized we have an opportunity because of the heightened anti-white hysteria that exists on academia, in K-12 schools with this white privilege push, and of course with the media that is trying to find any
semblance of racism to write about to demonize white people as they have to.
Because that is the goal of the elite.
Going back to what we just talked about with Tucker Carlson, what is the purpose of the
diversity visa lottery except to weaponize immigration against the historic American
majority or the population of Canada?
At this point I think AR had a crazy story yesterday about how in Toronto now whites
are a visible minority.
What is the purpose of immigration except to...
Well, see, you and I always disagree on the motive here.
I just don't think there are that many people who really do want to do in the white man.
But anyway, that's the consequence of their acts, even if that's not their intention.
We certainly agree that that is the consequence.
No, that is the endgame.
But we won't rehash that particular disagreement.
But yes, the question it raises, of course, is if you object to a sign that says it's okay to be white, aren't you saying it's not okay to be white?
Correct. And think about this.
Think about all the people out there who are doing this wonderful Identity Europa push and how quickly that gets...
Due to some of the aesthetics behind that, it gets associated with Nazism very quickly.
But with this now, as you just said, simply saying it's okay to be white, it also quickly got associated with the most extreme examples of white identity.
Nazism, white supremacy, the Klan.
It's like, wait a second. Wait a second.
It simply says it's okay to be white.
As you said, on a piece of white paper, black lettering.
So now 4chan needs to take this further and people who are listening to this and the best thinkers and the best artists and the best propagandists on our side need to consider where to take this now because as you've just succinctly pointed out Mr.
Taylor The elite are under the...
The way that they operate is that it's not okay to be white.
Right. And what does that mean?
That is actually terrifying if you think about it.
The reaction to what is simply a harmless, real-life example of trolling.
Not in the digital world, but in the actual world.
The reaction to this has been...
Stunning, to be blunt.
And as the people who planned this campaign said, and I'm quoting them, the result will be, quote, normies will realize that leftists and journalists hate white people.
And they fall for their stuff.
They fall for their stuff.
You'd think they'd know better, but in effect they're saying, nope, it's not okay to be white.
So that's a great message to get out to all the normies out there who will be becoming just like us in no time at all.
I have great confidence in that.
I do too. Anyway, another U.S. story before we move on to our Africa issue is Puerto Rico.
I mean, it's way out of the news now, but I guess you're aware that despite the fact that in Texas and Florida after the hurricanes, power came back very quickly.
In Houston, most of the power and everything went out.
But it's been nearly six weeks since Hurricane Maria went through Puerto Rico and 70% of the country still is without power.
Still without power.
Now, the island's municipal power authority is called PREPA. I don't know what that stands for.
Some kind of acronym, I'm sure.
But it was bankrupt before Maria even showed up.
And, of course, it hadn't built or maintained its infrastructure to withstand a hurricane.
And now the Army Corps of Engineers is going to take over trying to repair the power grid.
Now, have you ever heard of the Army Corps?
I mean, they make dikes.
You know, they do harbors. Do they know how to operate power systems?
Do you know anything about that?
Well, they'll obviously farm that out by trying to get contracts with energy companies in the United States to come in and consult with them.
But you're right. This is another boondoggle for the American taxpayer to, once again, build up a crumbling infrastructure of a territory that should have been granted independence long ago.
Yes. And FEMA will pay.
And people are, again, blaming Donald Trump.
They're blaming everybody in sight for the fact that Puerto Ricans apparently cannot build a power grid that can withstand a hurricane.
That's what it all boils down to.
Just another little story about what could be the 51st state if we don't be careful about it.
I agree with you 100%.
They should be given independence.
We wish you well. But did you know that more than half of the population of Puerto Rico is already here?
I did. And as we know, there was a number of people who, in the response that Donald Trump, when he was being attacked by the media, a number of political pundits were encouraging Puerto Ricans to move to key states that could flip in 2020 just to punish the American people.
And they were saying move to Florida, move to Pennsylvania, move to Michigan, move to these states where your vote can have an impact.
To adversely affect Americans who side with this evil president.
That's right. I think there are only about three and a half million Puerto Ricans left in Puerto Rico and about five million of them live here with us in the United States because they are free to move and many of them have done so.
They've made a mess of Puerto Rico and now we're giving them an opportunity to make a mess of the United States.
But I think we should move on to the Africa Symposium.
For the last few days, American Renaissance has had a series of commentaries on what some people have called the most important graph in the world.
And it has to do with Africa's population.
And if I will summarize the situation, it's the fact that in 1950, there were only about half as many Africans as Europeans.
Half as many. Now, there are about 50% more Africans than Europeans, and by 2025, that's just 75 years after 1950, the proportions will be reversed.
Twice as many Africans as Europeans.
And by 2010, there could be well over four times as many Africans as Europeans.
That's four billion Africans.
This is above the Sahara and south of the Sahara.
And by then, who knows how many Africans living in Europe will be counted in the Africa figure.
And the fact is, after 2025, virtually all of the world population growth will probably take place in Africa.
And by 2100, there could be more Africans than Asians.
Now, this is a fact that we asked a number of commentators to comment on.
And, you know, we sent this out to a number of lefties, too.
We wanted to hear their view.
What do lefties think should be done about this?
Do they have an opinion?
Have they even noticed? Do they care?
I'd like to think somebody's noticed and cares.
But anyway... And no, we had a whole series here.
And I think what Dan Root wrote is worth reading verbatim.
I'd be happy to read it out loud. And just so the people listening, I would encourage you before you even listen to this part, stop, podcast, and go to your Google and type in most important graph in the world, Steve Saylor.
Steve Saylor in 2015 pointed out this graph, and it shows the projections for the European population, and then it shows the projections for the African population.
He calls it the most important graph in the world.
As Mr. Taylor has noted, this is something that very few people want to talk about, have the stomach to talk about, but it is absolutely vital.
And in this symposium, Dan Root, he wrote this, and I And of course, let's remind our readers that he is on the spot in Africa.
And he is talking about what has happened since black rule.
This is the important thing.
If demography is destiny, this is what we are in store.
So as you're listening to both myself and Mr.
Taylor read these excerpts, it's important you look at this graph and just look at the graph the whole time, visualizing what this graph means.
So Dan Root wrote, and I quote, This is what the future of the West looks like.
High-rise buildings that once were corporate headquarters, law firms, or five-star hotels will be boarded up, and the streets and the sidewalks, informal and chaotic African-style trading will take over.
As one black security guard told me the other day about the former Five Star Sun Hotel,
this not work hotel, this work park.
He meant that the hotel was boarded up in Derelict with only the underground parking
garage still functioning and only because it was right next to the city's High Court.
Most lawyers have long since disappeared in the northern parts of the city, yet they still
have to put infertile appearances in what was once a landmark building.
For that, they need parking as close as possible to the court for physical safety as much as
convenience."
Mr. Taylor, I read a great story not too long ago.
It was published in Forbes, I believe, about Ponce City in Johannesburg.
It's the largest building in Africa that was built during the apartheid era.
And it was supposed to be one of the nicest residences in all of Africa for middle to high income whites
in South Africa that was abandoned.
And if you've ever seen some of the movies about South Africa, it is the building
they always show as a landmark.
It's sort of built as a circle, so there's a huge atrium in the middle
where you actually have sunlight, natural sunlight.
And when whites abandoned Johannesburg and blacks began to be able to move in,
they would throw, the blacks would throw their trash into the middle of this beautiful building
where normally that's where the sunlight would come in to a point where there was, I'm not making this up,
15 stories of trash that had been thrown into this middle that was a beautiful open air park within this building.
I think it's a 60-story building, the tallest on the continent of Africa.
The article pointed out that this apocalyptic vision of this tower in a lot of ways accentuates the point that your symposium was trying to make about what happens in a more indirect manner without even pointing out the true racial nature of the transformation.
But at the same time, it did sneak in.
In the apartheid era, this was the most fashionable address in all of Africa and now it's become a vision of the apocalypse.
Probably still pretty fashionable in certain circles, you know.
Better than living in a mud hut.
But yes, this is, I think, Dan Root, who is seeing it firsthand, is really giving us an eloquent warning.
A five-star hotel just completely boarded up and derelict.
It's almost like Detroit, isn't it?
Well, Grand Central Station, my brother visited Detroit, and he actually went on a tour.
He wanted to go see...
Detroit is still known as being the ruined porn capital of the world, so people go and they look, and Grand Central Station is utilized in movies now because of its...
Derelict, decrepit state.
And you used to be able to actually get into it, but they built a big fence around it.
But you can just see the windows have been shot out where rocks in the lower levels have been used, but on the upper levels, obviously, guns have been using this grand building.
For target practice.
It must be, what, 30 stories tall?
It's an absolutely gorgeous building.
40 stories? It is a mausoleum to America's former grandness when it comes to the infrastructure of railroads that we had and how romantic that was.
I don't know if you've ever had this fantasy of going cross-country on railroads and to think about the grandeur and the Innovative, entrepreneurial mindset that Americans once had to build this sea-to-sea railroad.
And many, many beautiful train stations.
Union Station in Washington, D.C., Grand Central Station in New York.
These are extraordinary.
Philadelphia has a wonderful train station.
This is really something that has just fallen apart.
And where white people have left...
As is the case in Detroit, it's not even used as a building for anything.
It's just a hulk. No trains, no people, no nothing.
Anyway. But now, one of the other contributors to the symposium was F. Roger Devlin, another brilliant guy who has written for us many times.
And he talks about just the consequences of overpopulation, whether they move or not.
And he points out that in 1900, when it was placed under former British administration, Nigeria had only 16 million people.
It was the most populous country in Africa.
Its population is now 186 million, from 16 million to 186 million.
And of course, Western medicine accounts for this transformation in large part.
It used to be necessary to have seven or eight or a dozen children because so many of them died off.
Well, now we have prevented the die-off.
And he draws really quite an interesting parallel between what's happening in Africa and what happened in the Kaibab Plateau in Arizona.
Were you familiar with this? I was not.
This was one of the more fascinating aspects to learn from this entire symposium.
Yes, yes. What happened there was a very, very interesting sort of unnatural experiment.
In 1906, Do-gooders banned hunting and eliminated all present predators of the deer that lived on the Kaibab Plateau.
And from 1906 to the mid-20s, the population shot up from a few thousand to 100,000.
And all of these deer ate everything that was growing right down to the roots.
And there was nothing left to eat and there was a massive, massive starve-off.
Hundreds and tens of thousands died and there were practically no deer left.
And because they had so devastated the environment, it took years for the Kaiban Plateau to regain enough vegetation to support the original few thousand that had been there.
And in the midst of all of this, there were calls to, wait, we need to cull this over-existent herd.
But no, no, no, that wouldn't be humanitarian.
So instead of being shot in a humane way, all of these tens of thousands of deer died in the most agonizing death by starvation.
And this is the kind of parallel that F. Roger Devlin is drawing between what has happened on the Kaiban Plateau and what's happening in Africa.
We had this strange intervention whereby a naturally imbalanced ecosystem has been put into a state of unbalance by our intervention.
You know, it's funny. You'll laugh at this example, but Disney in 1994 came out with a movie called The Lion King, which actually tells this exact same lesson of the delicate nature of an ecosystem where the hyenas kind of, you know, you have a situation where...
The lions have to protect the ecosystem and then one of the bad lions unites and allies with the hyenas.
So they unite and they eat all of the actual other animals.
And the ecosystem completely collapses.
And that is, if you actually go away from the songs and from the ornate drawings, the actual lesson is very Malthusian.
And it's a fantastic lesson for kids to learn, if they can actually sit and think, holy cow,
the bad guy wants to unite so that the ecosystem is then crushed and collapses upon itself.
Right, right.
Yes, in my contribution to the symposium, I said there are really two, well, first of all,
that Africa must be kept out of Europe.
Otherwise, if they are let in, they will just continue to stream in to the point where Europe becomes as miserable as Africa and no one will want to come.
That is the ultimate outcome if we do not do anything about this.
And there are two very simple ways to prevent them from coming.
I don't think that the Europeans, at least not for the first 10 or 15 years, have the guts to do this.
Maybe someday they will.
But if you were to declare war, or if you were to point out that this kind of invasion is the equivalent of war, and react as if it were war, all you would have to do is sink one or two of these refugee boats, and nobody would come ever again.
Now, people would say, this is terrible, cruel, you can't fire on these unarmed people.
But last year, 5,000 Africans drowned coming across the Mediterranean.
Which, realistically, is more humane.
To put a stop to it, at the sacrifice of a certain...
And if you gave out a warning that was taken credibly, you wouldn't even have to do that.
But I think they wouldn't believe us.
These white people would never do this.
I think you would have to act credibly.
And then no more would come, and no more would drown.
The other option, which would be more humane, would be simply to capture these boats and tow them back to where they came from.
That's what Australia did.
Australia has pointed out that's the way to stop them.
If they know they're just going to be towed back to where they came from, they're not going to bother to come.
It wouldn't take doing a great deal of that for the word to get out.
It's so simple, really.
These ideas were actually being discussed in art because in 1990 there was a BBC production called The Long March, which postulated an African invasion of Europe.
And the whole idea was it was a Camp of the Saints type story where the Africans were marching toward, I believe, where you just talked about the Mediterranean they were going to cross.
And the whole movie dealt with.
I've never seen it. I've only read bits and pieces about it because it's impossible to find.
Trust me, I've scoured eBay, Amazon, and UK. I cannot find it available on any BitTorrent.
The point is, it's dealing with the European reaction to this, knowing that it's coming.
What do they do? Do they have the will to survive?
And do they keep them out by force?
Or do they let them in?
And what, of course, happens in Camp of the Saints?
And it ends with a face-off.
So it's got the moral dilemma.
You don't know what happens. I guess it's left to the audience and the individual audience members to decide what should have happened.
Well, I've actually seen that movie.
Really? Yes, yes.
I can't remember. I think I saw it on television once years ago.
And there is a crucial line.
There's this woman, prime minister, whatever she is.
And she says, we have a responsibility for these people because when you think about it, they are poor because we are rich.
And I remember thinking, good grief.
This is the way so many goofy white people think.
They are poor because we are rich.
Wait a minute. They are not in terrible misery because of us.
And this leads me to one of the points that Gregory Hood made in his contribution.
I don't know, it might be worth reading some of his outlaw too.
Yeah, I'd be happy to. Yeah, why don't you read, because he takes an ecological kaibab plateau approach to this as well.
I absolutely do. I'm good friends with Greg.
I thought his essay was, as usual, a must read just because of where he went with things.
And I think this is where I believe we're going to see the largest growth of white people come into terms with As Prince William just pointed out, Prince William's under a lot of fire right now, Mr.
Taylor, for saying the world's overpopulated and because of the terrible consequences to nature and the destruction of species.
I mean, I go back to when I saw Afric Audio for the first time and the horrible...
The way I felt seeing all these animals being slaughtered that had been contained and allowed to grow in population when it was under white control.
Mr. Hood writes... Yes, Mr.
Hood is white, but he writes...
Even as the global population increases and there are ever greater demands for food, infrastructure, and healthcare, there will be fewer people capable of creating these things.
The result will almost certainly be more leftist political movements with ever more outlandish demands to redistribute what few resources remain.
The Africanization of the planet will force to the forefront the great lie of race relations.
The lie is that whites benefit from the presence and exploitation of non-whites.
The truth is that we gain nothing from their presence.
They need us.
We do not need them.
An African planet will further emphasize this terrible truth Let me interrupt you there.
When he points out, they need us, we do not need them.
That is really a key concept that whites MUST We do not need that.
But continue, please.
If we do nothing, the future belongs to those who most enthusiastically preach equality while most ruthlessly avoiding its consequences.
The ideal man of the age of Aquarius is a sociopathic hypocrite.
If we do nothing, our rulers will make the Africanized world of the future into a desert and they will call it equality.
End quote. Now, I think that that line juxtaposed with the line from the movie you just spoke of, The Long March, that the BBC produced back in the early 1990s, which again, if anybody listening to this can find that for us, we'd love to let you know.
Tell you what, if anybody listening has the VHS... You can find AR's P.O. Box.
Seriously, send it over. I'll send you some money for it.
I really want to see this because I think it's so important that that documentary, that that movie has become black hole in this era because it is so important to understand that these were ideas that people were talking about in the early 1990s before we saw The Bell Curve, Pave With Good Intentions, and Alien Nation come out and then all conversation and Polite society was discouraged.
Now, in 2017, only American Renaissance is bringing up the idea of what does the most important graph in the world, what does the future Africanization of America mean?
And Mr. Taylor, you and I could drive, we could jump in a car right now, and we could drive 50 miles to Baltimore, to East Baltimore, and we could go take a look at what in the 1920s was some of the most We have high-priced homes in all of America.
These townhouses, these row houses that are now all boarded up.
Many of them are falling down.
In St. Louis, they call them dollhouses because as you drive along, you see this house.
But if you go into the backyards, they're crumbling down.
You can see inside.
That's the term in St. Louis and areas of St. Louis that also in the 1920s were some of the highest valued
private property in the country.
And that's only 40, 50 miles from us, Mr. Taylor, where an entire city is Africanized,
where this weekend, mind you, sir, they're once again trying to do a nobody kill anybody weekend.
And as we know, back in August, it lasted 32 hours before they had a couple murders.
And now again, they're going to try it this weekend when Baltimore just passed the 300 murder mark for the year.
Well, as I said, we asked some liberals to comment on these projections.
They all refused.
And I've not seen any indication that people other than those with our understanding of race are even paying attention to these numbers.
Now, let's hope that, was it Prince William?
Prince William was talking about overpopulation.
Let's hope that people are listening.
In any case, we have come to the end of our allotted time.
And always a pleasure to have you on, Mr.
Kersey. And I'll look forward to another stimulating and vibrant exchange of ideas next week.
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