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Sept. 1, 2017 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Media Wake Up and Smell the Antifa
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of Radio Renaissance.
And as usual, it's been another astonishing week.
The fun never stops.
When you have an unconventional perspective on race and crazy lefty ideology in this country, the wonders never cease.
And as usual, in the studio we have our indispensable guest and commentator, Paul Kersey.
Delighted to have you. There is no getting off this ride, Mr.
Taylor. I'm afraid not.
I'm afraid not. Only the graveyard is where it's going to end.
Anyway, I wanted to start with briefly to touch on the rally at Berkeley of just this Monday.
And again, we have a situation in which Antifa comes out in huge overpowering numbers against, in this case, a rally that was called No to Marxism in Berkeley.
And they are, as usual, Antifa is fighting white supremacy.
The rally was organized by a guy named Joey Gibson, the leader of a conservative group called Patriot Prayer.
Now, when Patriot Prayer is organizing a rally against Marxism, and you get thousands of Antifa who overwhelm a contingent of 500 police officers, drive these people off bloody...
This is just an unprecedented situation in the United States, I'd say.
I wish I could say it was unprecedented, but think back to the Boston situation just one week ago where a group of colorblind conservatives, led by an Indian Senate candidate in the state of Massachusetts, tries to give a speech.
And guess what? 30,000 to 40,000 anti-free speech people showed up claiming that this was a white supremacist rally.
You know, there's images of a woman with an American flag being grabbed from her, and basically she's dragged by these Antifa.
Of course, we know that in the rally at Berkeley, I believe there was a black Trump supporter who was attacked.
We saw an image where there was a white guy being attacked by Antifa, and then a black Trump supporter actually jumped on top of the white.
Trump supporter who was being attacked to try and shield him from these continuous kicks.
Again, this event, as you stated, at Berkeley had nothing to do with anything white supremacy, anything alt-right, anything except for it being, as you stated, a patriot prayer rally.
You know, I find it remarkable that even the lefty press is beginning to tumble to some of this.
The headline in the San Francisco Chronicle was, Masked Anarchists Violently Route Right-Wing Demonstrators.
Now, they call them right-wing demonstrators.
That's going probably a little bit too far.
But still, maybe they were right-wing demonstrators.
But no pretense that it was the right-wing types that started the violence.
Anarchists violently routed them.
I'm very glad to see that.
Washington Post, sir, also had a similar headline that made it quite clear that this was an unprovoked attack by, as President Trump has branded them, the alt-left, what we call them the Antifa.
You know, I like to always point out, these people aren't fascists.
They're Bolshevik. They're Marxists.
They get their roots in the same movement that led to the death of tens of millions.
Who knows how many people died courtesy of Marxism around the world in the 20th century.
This is not a fascist movement.
It is a Bolshevik Marxist movement at its core.
And to think that a patriot prayer rally now is grounds for this type of assault and this type of attack.
When at the same time, I want to point out to all the listeners here in the Houston area, our thoughts are with you during this time.
We hope you're doing great and you're prepared and are acting as only a...
As only men of the West would in a situation like what's going with Hurricane Harvey.
But think about what we're seeing in Hurricane Harvey.
All the people who are left behind.
You know, most people didn't, Mr.
Taylor. Most people who were competent, they actually stayed behind because there was no, like in Hurricane Katrina, a mass evacuation call.
So you actually have a lot of competent people still left in Houston.
And think about how they're helping out each other's, you know...
Regardless of race, white people, brown people, black people, they're all helping each other out because we are Americans.
You and I might disagree with the current state, where we want the future to go, but everyone in Houston is an American except for the 600,000 illegal aliens that the mayor is protecting.
Different story. But my point is, think about, juxtapose what's happening in Houston.
Relatively little alluding with what happened in Berkeley, what happened in Boston, what happened in Charlottesville, when we see just how divided and divisive things really are, and yet we finally see the reality of the reporting.
It isn't the alt-right.
It isn't white supremacist.
It isn't Conservatives.
It isn't people attending a patriot rally that are the aggressors.
We're finally seeing, as you said, the tide turning.
The San Francisco Chronicle called it an army of anarchists in black clothing and masks.
Great. Finally, they are describing him accurately.
And they said they routed this group.
Then an LA Times article noted that, and I'm quoting here, anti-fascist protesters also beat one person wearing an American flag.
Now, that's going to go over well with normies, isn't it?
Then he goes on to say, some threaten to break the cameras of anyone who filmed them, including journalists.
You know, these Antifa types, as I say, it's as if we were paying them.
Go ahead, attack the police.
Attack journalists with cameras.
Attack people wearing American flags.
What could be more repulsive to ordinary Americans, this kind of thing?
They're really on our side.
Well, you'd think it would be that way.
But remember, after all the rhetoric that Trump has used against the media, the journalists keep saying, oh, the right wing is going to attack us.
They're going to attack us. Trump is putting a bullseye on our back and someone from the right, you know, some right winger is going to attack us.
But as you noted... It is continually the left that attacks unprovoked journalists who are just trying to record, you know, I think there was an incident that happened during all of the excitement of bringing down the monuments where some lefty journalist was attacked and beaten.
We see this time and time again and again.
so desperate for a right-winger to attack a journalist so that it fits their narrative,
when time and time again, it is a left-wing, as the San Francisco Chronicle called them,
it's an army of black-clad anarchists who are attacking and beating and harming journalists.
And this leads us to something else that's just going to show you just how deluded
and hysterical the anti-white supremacist movement is.
I can make one more point. All right, please do.
I'd love to make this point because I think that Donald Trump is about to put Antifa in checkmate.
If he were to start doing, just as he did in Arizona when he gave that speech, it was a focus group where everyone in attendance, people waving the American flag, Good looking people just happy to see their president attend the rally in Phoenix.
Remember, the mayor said don't come.
Right. People came anyways.
If Trump shows up, people will come, to paraphrase Field of Dreams.
This brought out the face of what he's branded the alt-left, these Antifa, who attacked the police, who attacked Trump supporters, and forced the police to bring out tear gas to try and stop it.
We've all seen the video of the guy getting shot in his private parts, which is hilarious.
My point is this.
President Trump should start hosting Two rallies every month in states where there is an opportunity to provoke the left, the radical left to show up and show once again their face to the American people.
Of course, that's virtually every state.
It is virtually every state, but think about if he goes to California where we saw most...
He has not been to California since we saw that incredible violence where the girl was attacked and had eggs thrown at her.
And the white guy ran off and he was attacked by the black guy who chased him down.
Go to a state where Trump supporters are forced to hide and give them the opportunity to come out
because in our day and age, whatever left identity group you can think of,
they have the media and corporate America entirely on their side.
Trump supporters are the ones who are hiding in the closet, especially in these battleground states like Illinois,
Minnesota, Colorado, California, these states where Trump supporters are in a clear minority.
But to have Trump come there to give a speech, that gives them the opportunity to get excited and to go mingle with their friends, their allies.
It also gives Trump the opportunity Just like it did at the University of Chicago when his speech was shut down by the violence, the horrendous violence where an officer was attacked.
That was during the primaries, mind you.
You give the American people the chance to see the left's true face that the mainstream media Assiduously covers up every day.
Here we have, I think, another interesting example that is not specifically something that the Black Bloc was involved in.
But on August 9th, in the Philadelphia Inquirer, Amy Wax and Lawrence Alexander wrote an op-ed piece.
Now, Amy Wax, I'm sure you're familiar with.
She's at the University of Pennsylvania Law School.
And Lawrence Alexander is at another law school.
But they were promoting what they called bourgeois habits.
And by that they meant ordinary middle-class habits that have been, over the millennia, shown to be the keys to success.
And let me quote from it.
They said, Get married before you have children, and strive to stay married for their sake.
Get the education you need for gainful employment.
Work hard. And avoid idleness.
Be neighborly, civic-minded, and charitable.
Avoid coarse language in public.
Be respectful of authority.
Eschew substance abuse and crime.
Well, guess what happened after all of this very, very sensible advice in which they went on to say, loss of bourgeois habits seriously impeded the progress of disadvantaged groups.
Not one word about race here.
They did use the word disadvantaged groups.
And what's the consequence?
White supremacy.
Yes! Last week, the Council of the Graduate and Professional Student Assembly at UPenn published a list of demands to the university in response to the, what they called, hate speech in this op-ed.
It is hate speech to suggest that people get married before they have children.
And then a group of 54, University of Pennsylvania doctoral students and alumni, they slammed this editorial, calling it racist and white supremacist discourse.
Be neither a borrower or lender be was the advice Polonius gave to his son Laertes in Hamlet.
And you think about that famous speech in one of Shakespeare's best plays.
It's basically the type of advice Amy Wax and Lawrence Alexander just gave to the people who were going to read this op-ed.
You would think, again, Mr.
Taylor, this is the type of advice that if...
If a grandparent saw this or if a parent saw this and they said, you know what?
I'm going to clip this and cut this out and send it to my grandchild or my kid because this is good advice.
Are we now at a part in American history where what Lothrop Stoddard warned in his classic book, Revolt against civilization, the menace of the underman.
Are we now at a part, Mr.
Taylor, where bourgeois values, the values that have been the bedrock, the foundation of building what is called the nuclear family, what has created the middle class, what has allowed people through the beauty of capitalism to rise to another status, to another social status.
Are we now at a part where the revolt of the underman is complete and they can now Do what Stardard was so worried about back in the 1920s when he wrote the book that at some point our values would be supplanted and that we'd see the Underman rise and they would be in charge of the direction of the nation.
The crazy thing is, I bet most lower-class people would be delighted for this kind of advice to be disseminated as widely as possible.
The people who are furious are graduate students.
These are professional types, people who probably in their daily lives are careful to eschew crime.
They probably try to work hard and get an education.
I bet many of them are married.
It's the idea that these elites have that well-educated white people should be saying to the so-called disadvantaged classes, if you do this, you can get ahead.
That is what is considered white supremacist hate speech.
How can this advice be, first of all, even controversial, much less hate speech?
We really have come to an astonishing stage in American history.
Well, again, protesting Marxism is now white supremacy, providing sound advice, whether it's financial or whether it's for convincing people to volunteer and to get married as the foundation for a happy, successful life for children, etc. Now that is white supremacy.
I'm still at a point now when we're going to see an article written by Huffington Post or Salon where they argue that white people even breathing is white supremacy.
We're not that far away from some of the more outrageous and egregious headlines by the left.
Because again, think about the type of books we're seeing coming out from these university press.
The concept of white privilege, Mr.
Taylor, is now so ingrained in higher education.
That again, when you started, when American Renaissance started, I don't think that this concept was even really out there.
I think in the late 90s, early 2000s, you began to start seeing...
Some of the professors, I can't remember the guy's name, maybe David Roediger, maybe I think that's his name, wrote a book about white privilege and how the Irish became white and all this nonsense.
Well, there's been a progressive march towards insanity.
The idea that race doesn't exist, that's a new one.
Microaggressions, that's a new one.
White privilege, all of this stuff.
No, when they wear out one crazy idea, they invent another.
So, yes, the idea that getting married before you have children, this is white supremacist, and to suggest that is hate speech.
In a way, it's saying, it's going back to the whole idea of the way blacks will criticize other blacks that do this sort of thing as acting white.
In a way, they're recognizing that this is the sort of way that whites and many Asians, for example, behave.
But for this to be, for white people to then turn around and say, we don't dare Talk this way.
Because it suggests that those who do not get married before they have children, who don't get an education, that it's somehow wrong for them not to do that.
That is the idea. That is why it is white supremacy to talk this way.
But to me, when ordinary white people Hear other people describing this kind of sound advice as white supremacy.
They must shake their heads in dismay.
And many of them, I think, are going to come to people like us, where they're going to get something that really makes sense, rather than this astonishing nonsense that they get from the universities.
All we do is provide people with glasses that showcase a Eurocentric worldview, an unapologetic Eurocentric worldview that is based on fact, reason, and logic.
But the SPLC, as usual, the Southern Poverty Law Center, they have a solution.
They have put together a map of 1,500 what they call Confederate symbols.
And this map says these symbols stand in communities like Charlottesville with the potential to unleash more turmoil and bloodshed.
Just the fact that they are there could unleash turmoil and bloodshed.
It's time to take the monuments down, they say.
Interestingly enough, these 1500 are not just monuments.
Some of them are names of schools, even middle schools, elementary schools, and even just monuments to Confederate dead.
Just the fact that they're bereaved, they're descendants, put up monuments to dead soldiers.
These too have the potential to unleash more turmoil and bloodshed, according to the SPLC. So, and in fact, they even include on their webpage a sample letter.
Once you have found a Confederate monument or an elementary school named Robert E. Lee in your neighborhood, you can write to the city fathers and say, this has the potential to unleash more turmoil and bloodshed.
We must change it now.
You know, I've got to bring up my favorite story that...
I read when I was in college.
I think I found it on a microfilm or something.
I don't know. It's from the New York Times from November 12, 1997.
Headline is, Black Strip Slaveholders' Names Off of Schools.
It opens up with a historian from Mount Vernon saying that there are 450 schools in the U.S. named for George Washington.
But unfortunately, there's one fear now.
Because in Orleans Parish, which the school system is 98% black, that's New Orleans for those people listening, They changed the name of the school from George Washington Elementary to Dr.
Charles Richard Drew Elementary, the black surgeon who people claim developed a method to preserve blood plasma.
Guy was an octoroon, but I guess one drop, he counts as black.
Didn't really do that. But my point is, I wonder how many other George Washington Elementary, middle school, or high schools have been renamed since 1997.
Because the SPLC's report right here, it's not going to end with Confederates.
You and I both know this.
And it is going to go after the founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, of course.
We've seen since the events of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, there have been a number of calls to remove the Thomas Jefferson report.
There's a number of Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson, I know you know this, I know our listeners know this, but I think it's important to point out.
On his gravestone, he only talks about being, I believe, the author of the Declaration of Independence and the founder of the University of Virginia.
He was so proud about it.
Having had the foresight to plant a seed that then germinated this beautiful tree of knowledge, which is the University of Virginia.
Now, of course, we're at a point where the revolt of the Underman is at a point where we're about to see Thomas Jefferson's statue pulled down.
Well, you know, that elementary school that used to be called George Washington Elementary in New Orleans, I remember reading about it at the time.
This was sometime in, oh, mid-90s, I think.
This has been going on a long time, this removal of George Washington.
In any case, one of the local black activists said that for young black children going to school, George Washington is basically the equivalent of David Duke.
There's no difference in their minds, so he's got to be got rid of.
Another extraordinary example of this is the removal in Baltimore of the statue of the Supreme Court Justice Taney.
And he was not by any means a Confederate.
He was a Unionist.
He held the Bible when Abraham Lincoln was sworn in as President of the United States.
But he is considered a bad guy because he wrote the Dred Scott decision in which he concluded that a black person could not be a citizen of the federal.
He could not be a federal U.S. citizen.
He could be a state citizen, but not a citizen of the federal United States.
He just saw no precedent for that.
This enough. This was a judicial decision that he made on the basis of precedent, on the basis of his understanding of the law, and he did it with a certain amount of regret.
But this fact alone means that his statue has been taken down from the city of Baltimore, where it stood in a square right next to a statue of George Washington, and as you say, George's days are certainly numbered too.
Well, in Maryland, Mr.
Taylor, they've also stopped, the University of Maryland has stopped playing the Maryland, My Maryland song because of its Confederate roots.
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
And people are beginning to wonder if the University will stop playing this song, how long until it is no longer the official state song of Maryland.
If I'm not mistaken, when the song is sung on official occasions, it's actually hummed rather than sung because the words are considered so offensive.
It talks about the patriotic gore that flecked the streets of Baltimore.
These were Southern secessionists preventing Yankees from going to do battle with the South.
And they talk about the tyrant's heel is on your shore.
Who was the tyrant? Do you remember?
I believe it was Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln.
He's the tyrant. So, oh, no, no.
This is pretty bad stuff.
Anyway, well, as far as statues and memorialists are concerned, there are many people who don't really need the SPLC to tell them what to do.
Just on August 30th in Yonkers, New York, a statue of Columbus was beheaded.
Yeah. Well, Columbus was a bad guy too, apparently.
Not a Confederate. He didn't own any black slaves, but he is a thoroughly bad guy.
And furthermore, in Los Angeles City Council, they have up till now been celebrating Columbus Day.
But this, of course, is very bad because Columbus brought genocide and enslavement to the Native Americans.
And so they have a so-called Indian on the city council, Mitch O'Farrell.
Is that a Sioux name?
Is that an Ojibwa name?
Tell me, O'Farrell.
No, I think that's about to be Navajo.
Anyway, he's a Native American, and he says we need to call it Indigenous Peoples Day.
Well, this Joe Buscaino, the Italian on the city council, he really wanted Columbus Day to stay, but he says, well, we'll compromise.
We'll call it... We'll call it Diversity Day to celebrate all of us.
Nope, can't have that.
You can't celebrate all of us.
So Columbus Day, by a vote of 14 to 1, in other words, our Italian stalwart was the only guy voting against renaming Columbus Day as Indigenous Peoples Day.
So, the erasure of the white man marches on.
Mr. Kersey. I think Gofero might be Apache, but there's a point I want to make about Los Angeles.
I am still shocked that there's a couple of white people in the city council.
If you ever want to shock yourself, Go to the government webpages for a lot of the major cities and look at how non-white the city councils are.
It'll blow your mind because those are the people who are behind the legislation that is going to make it very difficult for gentrification to happen.
They're actually having a task force they've set up.
Birmingham is about a 75% black city, Birmingham, Alabama.
I think that seven of the ten members of the city council are black and they've actually started a task force because they're worried about gentrification taking place and property values beginning to rise again.
You know, Birmingham, mind you, was about 70% white back in 1930.
Now it's, you know, roughly 19% white.
Well, my point going back to Los Angeles...
I've always encouraged Peter Brimlow to finally write that ending that he wanted to do that his publisher wouldn't let him.
The fictional chapter to end the book Alien Nation would be about the last white family trying to flee Los Angeles.
And as we move closer and closer to that happening, I think Peter should actually put his foot down and finally write this.
It would be a very fun article because if you know Peter, he's got a brilliant sense of humor.
And I think you'd have a great time putting together the narrative.
Yes. Unfortunately, it sounds less and less improbable with every passing day.
But of course, when it comes to Columbus in New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio, he's considering taking down
the statue of Columbus in Columbus Circle.
That's one of the great landmarks of New York City.
Columbus Circle is right in the heart of Manhattan.
The monument is a beautiful one.
He hasn't done it yet, but I suspect that if the city council gets to work
in the way that you're just describing, Columbus will end up on the dung heap.
Now, what do you think they'll call it instead?
Maybe Mandela Circle?
Maybe Sacagawea Circle?
Maybe they might even call it Obama Circle.
What do you think? Who was the Indian chief who, at Custer's last stand?
Oh, that was Sitting Bull.
Sitting Bull was, you know, as the...
As the coalition of the fringes, it becomes more and more obvious that it is really just an anti-white force uniting.
I think you have to go back and start thinking about some of the figures who did stand up to the American empire, which the left nowadays believes is so closely synonymous with a racial empire, which, hey, that's not entirely untrue.
Which I'm not apologetic for.
I don't really go to sleep at night whining and crying about the white privilege that my ancestors created in this country for me.
But I would like to say, because earlier, before we started this podcast, you talked about how just beautiful.
You live not that far away from this monument in New York.
And it is a striking monument, this roundabout.
I don't know how long it stood in New York City, but it reminds me of the Robert E. Lee statue that was just removed down in New Orleans.
That had been around since, I want to say, the late 1890s, maybe the early 1900s.
But it weathered, think about all those years that this monument weathered, and you think about the people who put it there, because it was supposed to be a lasting reminder for every generation and the posterity that came after of the sacrifices that Lee made, and then the Columbus statue, it was supposed to be a reminder of the greatness that was unleashed upon this continent, When Columbus came over.
That's what Columbus Day represents.
We're united with our past with Europe, but we're also liberated from our past with Europe by the passage of what Columbus brought over.
Well, you know, it's interesting to note that in 1892, the 400th anniversary, there was nothing but celebration of Columbus.
But a hundred years later, the 500th anniversary, 1992, by then there was widespread lamentation.
You had Columbus Day parades that had been going on for many, many years, shut down, harassed.
No, in the space of that century, the thinking about Americans on so many things was turned topsy-turvy.
It's remarkable. And as I think more and more people are beginning to notice...
You just can't run a country when you have such divisive views of the past.
I think healthy countries are populated by people who think of their ancestors as good people, noble people, people that they can respect, people that they're proud to be descended from.
We no longer have that.
If you're white in the United States, you're descended from great criminals.
And Patrick Buchanan, just in his column of a week ago, a Friday, it was titled, What Still Unites Us?
Now, Patrick Buchanan has a way of asking questions, and we know what the answer is, but he doesn't come right out and answer them.
Now, I wish he did, but here's one of the key passages, I think.
So, what still unites us?
What holds us together into the indefinite future?
What makes us one nation and one people?
Well, you have to have one people to be one people, but anyway.
What do we offer mankind as nations seem to recoil from what we are becoming and instead are eager to build their futures on the basis of ethno-nationalism and fundamentalist faith?
Well, the question answers itself.
We are going against the tide of history by becoming this utterly disaggregated thing.
It's a polygot. Yes, yes.
We are going against an increasing recognition that in order to be a nation, you do have to be one people.
Then he goes on to ask, a sixth of the way through the 21st century, what is that to make us believe there will be a second American century?
Well, good question.
Good question. Patrick Buchanan, as always, is on to it, but he won't come right out and say that without a white majority, this country will just not be the force it once was.
Well, in the present, there's a massive demoralization by the elites in both corporate America and the public sector as well.
Massive demoralization of whites.
We see this on college campuses, white shaming.
And of course, we see just a complete, almost a criminalization of our ancestors, of our past.
That's right. We're good to go.
That somehow blames white supremacy for all the faults of non-whites.
Except for Asians, but that's not part of the conversation.
No one can notice that. Hey, again, you can't notice things.
That's the greatest sin.
But wait, you talk about the government doing this?
The government isn't doing this. It's corporate America.
It's corporate America. So I've read, you know, Lou Rockwell has recently went on a podcast with Tom Woods.
And they claim that it was the government doing this.
That's entirely untrue, Mr.
Rockwell. And you know better than that.
It is corporate America.
It's the technocratic elite at Google, Facebook, GoDaddy, Twitter.
Amazon, that are uniting.
It's the party of the CEO that are siding with the SJW mindset, this lynch mob, that is stopping any contrarian thought from being allowed to disseminate on the internet.
I mean, think about it. Mr. Taylor, I don't visit the site, but I know a lot of people who probably are listening to this, they're wondering what happened to Stormfront.
Right, right. Disappeared.
Gone dark. Yeah, that's right.
And it's fascinating to me that this is all coming now.
I think it's because the other side realizes what Power our ideas have.
How persuasive they are.
And in other words, we cannot be refuted, so we have to be silenced.
And just how successful they will be is one thing, but I think they really want to go back to the age of pre-internet.
This goes to show the incredible power of the internet.
And until 2010, American Renaissance was a paper publication.
We never had a circulation of more than 4,000.
Now we get 400,000 unique visitors to our webpage every month, and sometimes more than that.
Our reach has been hugely expanded thanks to the Internet.
They want us to go back to the days when the only way that you could easily get information would be from Random House, from the New York Times, from CBS, NBC, and that was it.
And this concerted attempt to de-platform us And just the other day, there was an op-ed piece in the New York Times saying that organizations like New Century Foundation, which is the parent of American Renaissance, should not have tax-exempt status because of what we say is so evil.
This is yet another way to deplatform us, and that would be a public-private coalition to shut us up.
That would be one way to enlist the U.S. government to exempt our tax exemption, to lift our tax exemption.
Thou shall not engage in pattern recognition is, of course, the first rule of participation in the egalitarian club that governs the United States of America corporate mindset in 2017.
And, of course, I would say that New Century Foundation is one of the main heretics of this amendment.
Yes, we notice patterns, and we think they're important.
We think it's something that is worth talking about.
And on the subject of patterns, that brings us to our last subject today.
And that is Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Pardon by Donald Trump.
Now, I never did entirely understand all the ins and outs of the case whereby he was considered in criminal contempt of a judicial order.
And the more I looked into it, I'm afraid the less I understood it.
It has got so many ins and outs, so many suits.
Back as far as 2008, the DOJ was investigating Arpaio for racial profiling.
And that investigation started on George W. Bush.
It was not. You don't have to get into the Obama era to find him battling against the federal government.
Then there was a 2011 class action lawsuit in which people were claiming that Sheriff Joe's Maricopa County Sheriff's Department was acting as the INS, acting as the immigration force's federal job, rather than acting locally.
And at the same time, there was a judge, a judge by the name of Murray Snow, who determined that he was practicing racial profiling.
It really... Well, then there was a 2014 Sheriff Arpaio started a criminal investigation into Judge Murray Snow to see what kind of guy he was.
Then there was a suit claiming his prison was run in a cruel and unusual manner.
This has been going on, and it's a very complicated thing, but what I can glean from this is that he was guilty basically of two things.
He was actually raiding workplaces and stopping people just to find out whether or not they were in the country illegally.
According to some interpretations of federal law, No local authority has the right to do that.
You can go after people for violations of state and local law, but you can't go after them for the violation of federal immigration law.
So doing that was bad.
The other thing that he did bad was that he was racially profiling.
If he was looking for illegal aliens, he tended to assume that if you're Hispanic, you're more likely to be an illegal alien.
Pattern recognition. Well, you're on the border with Mexico, one of the more undefended borders in the entire world.
The people who are coming across that border, not exactly a lot of Chinese that are going to be sticking around in Phoenix.
Not exactly a lot of OTMs that's other than Mexicans that the government actually, that's a designation the government has for people they capture.
They capture a lot of Iranians, a lot of people from the Middle East that Again, a lot of people think these people are trying to cross over to potentially do harm to the United States, which is one of the reasons why we do need to build the wall.
You know, Sheriff Joe, I've always liked Sheriff Joe.
He's 84, 85?
He's 85. The mistake that Sheriff Joe made was that he never worked to find a successor.
He was sheriff for more than 20 years in Maricopa County.
You would think that he would have had a succession plan to name someone younger.
Sheriff Joe is a force of personality.
But again, you're not going to live forever.
And it was imperative.
I've always thought that one of the great horrors of the victory Trump had was that Sheriff Joe lost.
Because Maricopa County, Trump could have gone in.
And pardoned him quickly.
And then they could have used Maricopa County as the beachhead for a lot of the really good rounding up or deportations.
Well, you know, Sheriff Joe became a target of all kinds of outside money.
George Soros contributed $2 million.
That's a lot of money for an election for sheriff.
A county sheriff? $2 million?
And George Soros is kind of the catalyst.
Once George sends the money in, that encourages a lot of other people to send in money.
So he had this huge bankroll against him.
But also, it was unwise of him to say that, in effect, he was ignoring a judge's order to stop the We're good to go.
Now, I wish he did make the law around here.
But in effect, he was guilty of thinking that local people should have the right to decide whether or not somebody's in the country illegally.
And apparently, they don't have that right.
And he was also guilty of recognizing a pattern that Hispanics are more likely than round-eye white folks of being in the country illegally.
And so, in a way, I can see, you know, if you're a strict, punctilious observer of the law, absolutely as it is written, then perhaps he did break the law.
Or he certainly stated that he was ignoring this injunction.
But as President Trump said when he decided that, when he hinted that he was going to pardon him before he actually did, was Sheriff Joe prosecuted and given this injunction because he was enforcing the law?
Correct. That is the way most Americans see it.
And if you go back and listen to that rally, people went crazy.
It was a focus group. That's what Donald Trump is doing.
When he goes and talks to the American people on what should be a MAGA tour, as I alluded to earlier, go to the states where the left dominates.
Illinois, California, Colorado, Minnesota.
Unite the Trump supporters there and allow the left to come out and show their face like cockroaches, like they did in Phoenix.
When they came out and they attacked police, they attacked Trump supporters.
Show Americans the face of the left.
But back to Arapaio.
Under Bush and under Barack Obama, we know that the federal government would not do their job when it came to illegal immigration.
Sheriff Joe became a hero because he did the exact opposite.
He put the people of Maricopa County and by extension the people of Arizona, the state of Arizona first.
And in a lot of ways, I believe that his strong stance influenced Donald Trump.
Oh, I agree. His popularity must have been a huge stimulus to Donald Trump.
Another thing that Sheriff Joe did that most people thought was great was he decided that being in prison should not be
like going to the country club.
And he established a tent city. This was in Arizona when it gets hot, no air conditioning, made some of the prisoners
wear pink, put some of them in those traditional old black and white striped uniforms.
I think at Christmas time, he played Christmas carols 24 hours a day.
When a judge said, no, no, you can't do it for that long, he cut it down to four hours a day.
He just did not want life to be cushy for people who'd broken the law.
And most Americans say, hooray!
As Robert Heinlein wrote in Starship Troopers, punishment must be unusual or it serves no purpose.
Again, a lot of people see prison.
The Democrats see it.
Most prisoners are there because of evil white supremacy.
And most prisoners who are in there, the actual prisoners who don't blame white supremacy, they actually look at it as safer than being out on the streets.
Think about how much it costs to house a criminal.
And think about how many, I don't know the exact numbers off the top of my head, but I believe that in the federal government prisons, 25%, maybe a little more, are actually illegal aliens.
And you think about this, and you think about what Sheriff Joe was doing, and Sheriff Joe never had the federal government on his side.
He always had the eye of Sauron.
Focused on Maricopa County because he was doing exactly what the Bush and what the Obama administration didn't want to have happen and that was the application of law to protect American people.
That's right. At one time, DOJ actually sent a former police chief, I think the police chief of the city of Rochester, to constantly monitor what he was doing.
Look over his shoulder 24 hours a day?
No, they were against him from the start.
But the American people sure loved him.
I heard an anecdote, Mr.
Taylor. I don't know if it's true.
Who knows? But Sheriff Joe said something along the lines of, Why is it always Italians who are trying to keep America American?
And I thought that was very fitting.
If it's true, I don't know if it is.
But you think about...
I think this was circa 2012 when you had Tancredo running for...
2010 when Tancredo was running for...
And almost when the governor of Colorado...
You had Lou Barletta. You had all these Italians who were fighting the Republican establishment and the Democrats that were uniting to...
Passed comprehensive immigration reform, which basically would have been the backbreaker for the historic American nation.
So we owe a tip of the cap to Sheriff Joe, and we owe an even bigger tip of the cap to Donald J. Trump.
Well, I guess Arpaio was once again guilty of pattern recognition, looking at those Italians and what they were up to.
Now shall not deviate.
Anyway, well, this brings our podcast to an end.
Thanks, as always, for your absolutely indispensable participation, and we'll see you next week.
And all you listeners will hope to be seeing you next week, too.
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