The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2490 - RZA

April 28, 2026 - The Joe Rogan Experience

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Joe Rogan Experience #2490 - RZA

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RZA and Joe Rogan explore discipline through martial arts and cold plunges before exposing horrific cobalt mining slavery in the Congo, where enslaved workers extract toxic minerals for electronics under conditions echoing King Leopold's rubber trade. They discuss RZA's vegan diet, his film One Spoon of Chocolate premiering May 1st with a theatrical window, and debate AI as "digital intelligence" versus lab-grown diamonds and Rolex super clones that mimic luxury without the brand history. Ultimately, the conversation links ethical consumption to broader systemic exploitation while questioning what consumers truly value in modern goods. [Automatically generated summary]
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Speaker	Time	Text
Cold Showers and Tai Chi 00:12:46
unidentified		Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
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joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, the guy that did your bar, Flying Guillotine, is the same guy that did The Mothership.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Richard Weiss.
unidentified		Yeah, Richard.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Richard, the same designer, architect who did your bar.
		I have a Flying Guillotine t shirt that I wear sometimes.
		I was trying to find it this morning, I couldn't fucking find it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I wore mine yesterday.
		I went to the Animal Draft House and did a screening of the film, and.
		I said, would it be appropriate to wear my Staten Island?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Draft house to them.
		And the guy there, he was like, he thought he wanted to wear his, but because he stole a stack from Staten Island, but he couldn't find no more.
		But the flying bulletin.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've got it somewhere.
		I've got it somewhere in my house, and I was scrambling this morning looking for it, looking for that t shirt.
		I couldn't find it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, we got to send you some more.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Definitely, definitely.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it's great to see you again, man.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Back at you, man.
		Back at you.
		Just, it's like, I got questions for you.
unidentified		What do you got?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, I was thinking, like, Well, remember you had this place in Woodland Hills?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That was, what, eight years now?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We've been out here for six, six years.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So about six years now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you were there like eight years ago, I think.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And I just remember you having the hyperbolic chamber.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hyperbaric chamber?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the hyperbaric chamber.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Are you still doing that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was that what it was, or was it the sensory deprivation tank?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the one where you float.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Is that because we had that at the studio.
		Okay.
		We didn't have a hyperbaric at the studio.
unidentified		Okay, so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I do have a hyperbaric.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You have that now here?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, not here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have it at my house.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I just was always impressed at just your consciousness on things that are unique, right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		And as time goes on, sometimes, you know, as we evolve, whether we evolve physically, mentally, spiritually, or economically, sometimes we leave certain things behind.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And I said, I wonder if Joe keeps moving his chi in the same direction.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So that's my question to you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, sometimes it gets caught up in momentum and you got to step.
		Back and just realign yourself.
		That's definitely a factor.
		Like, sometimes I'm too busy and I get too caught up in the momentum of things, and you kind of lose.
		Like, why am I doing this?
		Like, what is the process?
		Like, what is the reason for doing all this?
		But vacation always fixes that.
		Like, take a few days off, you can go, oh, God.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, we can't do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I feel the same.
		To be honest, I've been running around for like, I don't know, for like eight days straight.
		And I like to kind of make sure I exercise, do my Tai Chi or something, or stretch my body.
		But I was telling my wife last night, like, yo, I haven't worked out since we've been moving.
		But I've been drinking every night.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I'm like, I gotta.
		So today, this morning, before I came here, I got up a little bit earlier and I went and stretched and got all that out.
		And that's what made this question come to my head was like, I wonder, as we grow and we become more and more involved and we get in whatever it is in life that's given us, how.
		We're getting these blessings, but how far do we get away from the blessings that kind of made us solid?
		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I try not to get as far, I try to stay as close as possible to like centering my body.
		Like, if I don't work out, just a couple days in a row, I start feeling weird, right?
		Just two days, right?
		Two days, I just start feeling like, yeah, crack, I feel antsy, I feel irritated.
		Just, I don't think I'm thinking clear, I don't feel relaxed.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm the same.
		I maybe for me, it's.
		Three and a half days.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what drives me nuts is like, how many people out there that's their whole life?
		There's no exercise in their life.
		Like, my God, you're doing yourself such a disservice.
		Yeah.
		You're not a.
		Your mind, not just your body, but your mind needs that.
		You need to blow out some steam and run the machine and stretch it out and relax it afterwards and recenter yourself.
		And if you don't do that, you're going to be anxious.
		There's so many people are dealing with like constant crippling anxiety all the time.
		And how many of those people don't exercise?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I think that in Shaolin philosophy, we.
		You know, there's Qi Gong, right?
		And there's the Qi that travels through your blood.
		So you got to always continue to have the blood moving because the blood is the supply you have, but the oxygen, you know, gets in and oxidates it and just keeps it flowing.
		And when you do stretching or you do exercises or you build up your respiration, it actually energizes the blood, which energizes every part of your body.
		That Qi travels through every vessel.
		Every meridian of your body, and it actually does enhance you and re-vigorate you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100%.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fires up your endorphins, fires up your endocrine system, everything just feels better, and it calms you down.
		I feel like human beings are almost like batteries.
		Like you're storing energy all the time, but if you've got too much energy, it's leaking out of the battery, and you're not purging some of it.
		Your body has like human requirements for movement, and if you don't Use those requirements.
		If you don't meet those requirements, you're just going to feel like shit.
		And I think that's a big part of what's wrong with society today.
		There's just way too many people that aren't doing that.
		And they're just tense.
		And their tense, anxious feeling and the mental health problems that come with that, it just spills over into everything else.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I got to agree with you.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And I know that people that, like my Sifu Xi Yan Ming, who he probably works out like six times a day because he has to train, he has individual clients.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But, um, I think Sifu is maybe 10 years older than me.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Look, 10 years younger than me.
unidentified		Right, of course.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because he's just constantly moving that chi and exercising.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He still could kiss his toes in his 60s.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Babies could do that, right?
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He still could kiss his toes like a baby.
		But he said something to me that I took just heed to for myself.
		I said, Sifu, why do you work out?
		So much, right?
		He gave me two answers.
		He says, one, it feels good.
		It makes me feel so good.
		But then the other answer he gave me was that because in Shaolin, when you get up in the morning, you have to exercise, run up a mountain, run back down the mountain, do chores and all that before you eat.
		And he said, if you don't do that, you don't eat.
		And so I was like, well, that sounds like something from the Bible where it says that man should work to the sweat of his brow.
		You know what I mean?
		And I took that philosophy.
		So I don't normally eat in the morning.
		I would normally get up.
		I mean, I drink coffee now.
		So I've been drinking coffee about 10 years, I think.
		But I will have some coffee, some water, and Bamalama.
		I get into my exercise routine when I'm home.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that's the best way to start a day.
		Yeah, I do the same.
		I don't work out.
		I don't eat rather before I work out.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I always work out first.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, because then the water is fresher, the food tastes better.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You earned it too.
unidentified		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's just a good way to start the day too.
		You already did the hard part.
		The most difficult part of your day is done.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then everything else.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And also, like that difficult thing makes the mental difficulty of the rest of the day work smoother.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you ever remember that old commercial, the Army commercial?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
rza ▲ ● ▼		It was like, we do by 6 a.m.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Some shit like, we do before 6 a.m. what most people do all day.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's like, back when you first, you know, when I saw that I was young, I was like, I don't know the fuck, they talking loud.
		But as a man, I'm like, you know, that's wisdom.
		Get up in the morning, get your chi going, and have a beautiful day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's something, too, to getting up early.
		Where you force yourself to work.
		You force yourself to rise.
		The comfort of your bed calls you, but you go, fuck you.
		You get up, you get shit done, and you're like, I already won.
		I won today.
		I've got a victory.
		I've got a victory over my inner bitch.
		You know, I got out there, I did something.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm laughing now because you say you told me to bed.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what you have to say.
		You have to get up almost angry.
		Fuck you.
		No, you're not going to call me in there with your octopus tentacles and suck me into your depths, your depths of warmth and comfort.
		No, fuck you.
		Get up, get up, get going.
		That's why I like to get in the cold first thing.
		That's my morning routine cold plunge before I work out.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I can't do that.
		Now, that is kind of extreme for me.
		I'm not fucking with the cold like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You get used to it.
		I'm telling you.
		You get used to it.
		It becomes like a normal thing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		How long do you stay in there?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Three minutes.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It sucks.
		But every time I do it, I almost don't do it.
		Every time I do it, I'm almost like, don't do this.
		I don't want to do this.
		Fuck this.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then I get in, like, oh, we're doing it.
unidentified		We're doing it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then I take my phone and I set, I got a little kickstand on the back of my phone, you know?
		So I put the timer on there and I look at it and it's at a minute.
		So I'm like, all right, we're good.
		We're past the minute.
		Once you get past the minute, the minute mark is the tough part.
		Once you pass the minute, it's pretty easy to get to three minutes.
		You just relax.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I only did one ice bath.
		And it was, they had bought this Tibetan llama to New York.
		And it was me, I forgot the brother's name.
		He was doing this TV show thing.
		And they were trying to find out, they were scanning our brains and see what would happen if we got in the cold bath before meditating, then meditate it, and then get back in.
		So, whatever, some science.
		And I said, yeah, I'll do it.
		I don't know why I agreed to it, but I did it.
		But I got in that motherfucker, bro.
		And when I got in there, I was like, this is not the shit.
		I'm like, this.
		And the host, he got in too.
		Now, I don't know if that was his first time or not, but he was younger than me, skinnier than me, you know what I mean?
		And when I couldn't take it no more, around one minute and whatever, it was past the minute mark, I got the fuck out, but he was still in there.
		And I was like, I can't have this motherfucker beat me.
		And yo, I got back in.
unidentified		Nice.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
		And they got some footage of that.
		I think I stayed in, I don't think it was three minutes, but I think I. Really impress myself because I'm super anti cold.
		You know what I mean?
		I run hot.
		I stay hot.
		I'm the hot part of getting, you know, when my wife is cold, she just put her hand on me and I'm the heater.
		So cold is like something that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't like it.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't enjoy it.
		But there's a little mind game that goes on.
		And the mind game is almost immediately like, oh, fuck this.
		Let's just get out of here.
		Let's get out of here.
		You got to ignore that and just concentrate on breathing.
		So, what I do is I breathe to a count of 10.
		So I do this one, two, three, four.
		And I just concentrate on the numbers.
		And then by the time I get to 10, it's basically like a minute and I'm relaxed.
		And then I just settle in there.
		It's just you concentrate on breathing and don't think about that party that wants to get out.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I think I'm going to try a cold shower.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's really good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A cold shower in New York is great if you, like, in the winter.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that's real cold.
		That's real cold.
		I used to take cold showers.
		My friend Bob Caffarella used to do this at our Taekwondo school.
		He would take cold showers after training, and I was like, that guy is a fucking animal.
		And I tried it a couple of times, but I was a bitch.
		I did it like 15 seconds, and I jumped out.
		But he would just stay there in the freezing cold winter cold water and just wash himself.
		And I was like, this guy's an animal, man.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think my brother Kung Lee, I haven't seen Kung Lee in years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Kung Lee the fighter?
Martial Arts for the Mind 00:15:50
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I remember we were, because we did a movie years ago in China, but he was the cold plunger of the crew.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Kung, he's ahead of the curve on all that shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's just, it's the mental thing is where it really benefits you.
		And not just while you're in it, like doing it because you don't want to do it, but when you get out, you feel so good.
		Your brain just is flooded with all these endorphins.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You feel so good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it lasts for hours and hours.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to revisit that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think there's like, there's numbers on the Dopamine increase, but I forget what they are off the top of my head.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there's a giant increase in dopamine that lasts like two to three hours after you're getting out of the cold plunge.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wow, I didn't know that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know you're a long time martial arts student, and I think anybody that does martial arts for a long time realizes that it is as much for your mind as it is for anything else.
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like it's not just a workout, it's a workout, but it's also like there's something about going through the motions of martial arts and training in martial arts.
		It's so.
		It requires so much concentration and it requires so much of your focus that the rest of the world just kind of fades away and the impact of it is relaxed.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because of that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's mental, physical, and spiritual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's emotional.
		Yeah.
		It's will.
		You know, there's an esoteric thing, you know, seven planes of energies or five stages of consciousness.
		I don't know if you ever came across these types of terms, but you probably have.
		But sometimes we get stuck on a.
		On just the three dimensions, you know what I mean?
		Just three planes, you know?
		And you don't get to the emotional, you don't get to the will part of it, you don't get to the realization, the control, right?
		If you could get to realization, then you can control what's going on because you realize what it is.
		It's almost like you can now have the foresight of what it is.
		And then if you could get to that type of plane of energy, then the possibilities become infinite because you realize that you.
		Like, as they say, we all have a free will, right?
		But then you realize that the will can be controlled, right?
		You also realize that with a strong will, you can control others as well.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because some people are walking around with weak wills.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's how you start a cult.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh, by having the strongest will.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You, come here.
unidentified		Yeah, hold on.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You made me.
		I have a.
		I do have a film and shit, right?
		Called One Spoon of Chocolate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I watched half of it.
		I had a problem.
		There was a problem with the early screener.
		I was mirroring it on my television and it kept breaking up.
		It kept fucking up where the sound would cut in and cut out.
		And I did it a couple of times and then the screener ran out because I guess you're only watching a few times.
		So then I had to contact your people and then they gave me another one.
		But then they gave me one on Vimeo and I watched that in the gym today.
		So I watched the first half of the movie and I'm going to watch the second half.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, good.
		Take your time.
		Take your time.
		It's a crazy one.
		It's a fun watch.
		It's a lot of ways.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you did it with Tarantino.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it seems like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's got a Terracino flavor to it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But I brought it up just to say that there's a character who actually takes ice plunges, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The bad guy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the villain.
		So he's talking about cults and things.
		In a way, there's a scene where when we introduce him, you could tell that everybody else there are bending to his will, right?
		He shows them how to do this and you do this and you do that.
		I guess the weak will guy, and he's like, and that's why Jimmy's the fucking king, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I laughed at that.
unidentified		Exactly, exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So that's the point I'm making is that so will can control, you know what I mean?
		But if you realize yourself and have that self realization, self actualization, you gain control over yourself, you know what I mean?
		And control your planes of energy.
		So we're talking about martial arts, and martial arts help you achieve that goal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my instructor used to say, That martial arts are a vehicle for developing your human potential.
		I like that.
		It's so difficult that in learning how to get, I don't like the term mastery because I don't think you ever really master martial arts, but in learning martial arts, the difficulty that's involved in that, it expands your potential in everything that you do.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		And for me, I actually, you know, I always tell people on a physical level, I don't know if I'm good or not, to be honest.
		You know what I mean?
		It took up some hunger and shalin, of course.
		A little bit of Wing Chun here and there.
		But I don't claim to be like a martial art fighter.
		But I will claim to be a martial artist because of the mind, because the way I think, because the way it allowed me to think.
		You know, it's like I have probably 20 books on Tai Chi and I read them.
		And so I understand it, the application of it.
		Like there's a meditation called the Eight Pieces of Brocade.
		You ever come across that one?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's the word brocade?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, brocade meaning blockage.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So it's eight ways to unblock yourself.
		Like to unblock your chi.
		One of the first ones, of course, you sit in Lotus and you just take your thumbs and you bang on the back of your, basically your medulla obglanta.
		Like even if you could touch this real quick, if you don't mind.
unidentified		Back of your head?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right here.
		Okay.
		You see how loud that is?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		So you cover your ears and you bang on those drums first thing in the morning.
unidentified		Ooh.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And it, exactly, and it opens up some of your chakras.
unidentified		Ooh.
unidentified		So.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That feels weird.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because it's loud.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's as loud as it could be, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		My point being made by studying all these different books is like the physical part, of course, is exciting, but to me, the mental part became more exciting.
		The more that I can apply, therefore, I can apply it to my music, I can apply it to business, I can apply it to how to be a better father and all those things versus me just punching and trying to break a break.
		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		Yeah, there's, I mean, that's Tai Chi, right?
		It's all mental.
		The Tai Chi is a martial arts sort of.
		I mean, I guess you would learn how to move your body better.
		That could kind of help you applied in a self defense situation.
		But it's much more of a mental martial art.
		And I used to, when I lived in San Francisco, I used to watch people in the park.
		These old Chinese people would go out there and practice Tai Chi.
		I was like, what are they doing?
		I was a kid.
		I was eight.
		I was dumb.
		I was like, what is the purpose of doing this all day?
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then once you do it a few times, you're like, oh, this is not easy to do.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then in doing that, it cleans your mind of everything else that's going on.
		Because all you're concentrating on is these movements, these very difficult movements.
		They're not stupid.
		Like, they've been doing this for thousands of years for a reason, because it helps them.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, the crazy thing about Tai Chi, I'll give you a little information about it that you may or may not know, but the idea with Tai Chi is that if you master it or you have that control over it, you should be able to move 1,000 pounds with just four ounces of energy.
		So, the idea of them pushing constantly means if something ever came to them, They push that aside without even thinking about it.
		Because just four ounces of energy can divert.
		It's almost like tripping a giant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's great on paper.
		An actual giant.
		I don't care how much Tai Chi you know.
		A dude is like a 300 pound All American wrestler.
		He comes charging at you.
		You ain't going to use four ounces of energy and divert him.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to argue that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		The four ounces you use is just step to the side.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everybody here says that step to the side.
		It ain't easy to do it.
		It doesn't work.
		They grab you.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not getting up.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But then another.
		Well, I mean, a fight is a fight.
		That's a difference between a martial art and a fight, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also just the reality of physics.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I mean, it's one thing if you're doing that to an unskilled person, but to a skilled person, really, you need to know the skill that they're applying.
		Like, you know what I mean?
		Like, that's the difference between someone who is practicing something that is great in theory, but I mean, it's not just.
		In theory, like physically and mentally, it's great for you, but it's just not the right application in terms of actual hand to hand combat.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, a fight is a fight.
		I don't care, I mean, in my opinion, a fight is a fight.
		I don't care which, I don't care, you know, if you're the best boxer in the world that knocked motherfuckers out, like one of our greatest fighters, Mike Tyson, who wasn't just that he was a fighter, he was a fighter.
unidentified		Right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Of course, he had a skill set and he was well trained.
		But in the peak of his fights, I don't care how much somebody else trained, when he got in the ring to fight, they weren't better fighters.
		They could have been better boxers, better athletes, better whatever.
		So I think a fight, and this is my opinion, it's an instinct.
		It's a, you know, like when Mike bit his ear, right?
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's a fight.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That has nothing to do with boxing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that was frustration, you know, unfortunately.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, that was a Vander was beating him up.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he liked it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		A Vander was beating him up professionally, skillfully in boxing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But then Mike went to fighting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And fighting, like in MMA, you can't bite in MMA.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You can't bite in no sport, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You ain't supposed to hit the nuts, right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		You ain't supposed to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know, which is crazy because.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In a fight, the nuts are one of the best spots to hit.
unidentified		Exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		In the eyes, you ain't supposed to poke the eyes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My friend Eddie had an idea for a comedy sketch called Ultimate Sack Fighting, where it's just dudes are just the nuts of the only target.
		It's amazing how vulnerable we really are.
		Our balls just sitting on the outside like that.
		Yeah, fights you poke in the eye.
		I mean, you poke in the eye in an MMA fight, the referee stops the time, and you get a point deducted.
		But it's a very good technique in an actual fight.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that's what I meant by saying, like, so you could train and train and train.
		But when you are, when it's life against life, a life of death, it's a whole nother chamber of fighting for survival.
		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's some horrible videos of no rules fights.
		They have these no rules fights in Russia and a bunch of other places.
		But they do them outside in a field, and these guys fight, and this wrestler gets this guy down, and he just shoves his thumbs and his eyeballs.
		He gets on top of them, and he just grabs his face and shoves it, and the guy's just screaming.
		He's trying to move his head away, and he taps his blood all over his eyeballs.
unidentified		Party over.
		Party's over.
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You realize, like, how devastating that is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, the pain and the just the.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And you know what's so crazy?
		The person who did it, like, maybe the guy who got the chance to do it, it's not easy.
		And tell me if you agree with this, you could disagree, but it's not easy to do that either.
unidentified		No.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't mean not easy that you can't do it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's not easy for your spirit to do it.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You see what I mean?
unidentified		It's evil.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And so that's a whole nother chamber.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's like, yo, will you.
unidentified		Do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Will you blind a man?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, will you do it, right?
		And it's like, maybe you won't.
		But if he will and you won't.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		That's it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's what I. That's when my seafood says that about.
		Because he doesn't train nobody how to fight.
		He said, I can't teach nobody how to fight.
		You know what I mean?
		I could teach you how to build your body, how to build your chi, how to build some strength.
		But a fight, bro, it's different.
		There's no rules.
		It's life and death.
		It's like, and your will, going back to the will we talked about, your willpower.
		Has better be strong to survive.
		I love what Bruce Lee said.
		He practiced the art of not fighting.
		You know what I mean?
		So, and I told that to my son.
		I was like, yo, bro, listen, if you could run, bro, run.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, be up out of there.
		And motherfucker chase you.
		You know, you got to think on something.
		But if you could just, yo, that's right now, yo, real, you want to fight?
		Oh, yo, you know what, Joe?
		I'll see you later, bro.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know there's too many people that get into fights for no reason and you wind up changing the rest of your life.
		You got a scar that's going to be with you forever, or you accidentally kill somebody.
		It's stupid.
		It's a stupid thing to do.
		And there's so many men that feel like they just have to prove themselves, which is what a gym is for.
		Go to the gym.
		Go to the gym.
		Work out with other fighters.
unidentified		Train.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get beat up.
		Realize where you're at.
		Get a realistic sense of your actual ability and then improve upon them.
		But don't go getting in street fights.
unidentified		Please, God.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Don't do it.
unidentified		Don't do it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And for me, I put all my aggression and all my energy into my art.
		You know, you think about some of my early songs, you know, Wayne the Motherfucking Rockets, bro.
		That was like, I used to have a problem of, I don't know if it was anger management, maybe.
		But I would just like, I don't know, like I needed to hear the sound of breaking glass.
		I used to scream.
		Like, Jizzle was like, yo, this dude.
		Like, because I was, and I realized that I had so much anger in me that.
		You know, I couldn't really get it out.
		I was kind of hulkish in a way, like Bruce Banner or some shit, right?
		But then through music, it started to come out, and it started to come out.
		And by the time I got to Wu Tang Forever, a lot of my anger was in the song.
		If you want beef, then bring the rockets.
		And like all that stage and all that energy.
		So it really helped me.
		And then I realized, going to bring it up today to my new film, I'm watching it and I'm just like, okay, once again, I took all the anger and I put it into the art.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		There's actually a character in the film.
		His name is Unique.
		Did you catch that when you saw the piece?
		Unique is the name of Old Dirty Bastard.
		His original name was A Son Unique.
		And so that was my way of giving homage to him by naming the lead character of my new film, Unique.
		And it says in the film, he says, You got a problem with anger management.
		He says, Yeah, I'm working on that.
		And what I love about the art of it is that.
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rza ▲ ● ▼		The problem that he had with anger management was his reaction.
		Like a lot of us, we just react too much.
		We react before we think, right?
		Because they say a man could think seven times before he reacts.
		That's how fast your mind can move, but we go on that first impulse.
		But this character, he keeps, he holds the anger until one morning he's at a veteran home, right?
		And he's sitting there and he's having breakfast and he has this can.
		Right?
		You see this thing, right?
		And he's like, he digs the spoon in there, and it's like, fucking, there's nothing in it.
		Like, it's not even, it's like one spoon of chocolate in it.
		And he gets what?
unidentified		Angry.
		And he bangs it.
		Boom!
rza ▲ ● ▼		Who the fuck left one spoon of chocolate in the can?
rza ▲ ● ▼		But then it took an old man that was settled to tell him, one spoon of chocolate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Change a whole glass of milk.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Change the whole glass of milk.
		And then you notice that character from that.
		Then he calmed down.
		He started reading to the kids.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, and that was kind of me taking.
		Some of my personality, some of old Dirty's personality, some of personalities that I see in my community and putting it into this character, just say, like, yo, sometimes, yo, calm down, listen to the wisdom of your elders, right?
		Have you ever, in your life, I'm gonna ask you, have you ever, like, come across some old person, whether it's a homeless guy, a devil, a guy, your uncle, somebody, that you kind of didn't look up to in no way, just kind of they was, but then they say something to you that's profound and changed your life?
unidentified		Oh, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I try to find an example.
		I mean, I've definitely gotten a lot of advice from old timers, but definitely people, especially people that have done a lot of things.
		You know, people that have accomplished things and made mistakes and recovered from their mistakes.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I asked because I was maybe 11, and there was a dope fiend that was dating my aunt, and he was at the table and shit.
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rza ▲ ● ▼		And he was like nodding, but he was just, he was kind of in his, in a chamber, bro.
		You know, you know, kids, I mean, looking at, looking at this guy and shit.
		And he said, says something about like, you know, I don't care, man.
		You got to get knowledge, man.
		You got to get knowledge, man.
		The gods is right, man.
		You got to get knowledge.
		I started reading it since that day, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Seriously.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The dope fiend.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Inspired you to read.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He said, because he said, you got to get, what happened was he had knowledge of self, I guess, back before the drugs hit him.
		And now he's like, there.
		And he was like, he was just saying, you got to get knowledge.
		The gods are right.
		The gods are right.
		And so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What was he on?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What was the drug of choice?
rza ▲ ● ▼		He was on fucking, he shot that shit up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Heroin?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was on heroin.
		That's the old days back when they shoot it.
		Now everybody's on pills.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I never, I never, I don't know about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about it either, but I mean, I don't know about it personally, but that's essentially what oxycodone is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All those pain pills that you see all these people dying of.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Opioids.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Opioids.
		Yeah.
		The number one problem, I mean, I think the deaths in America, it's upwards of 70,000 a year.
		I know it's crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
		Yeah.
		Just from overdosing on pills.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and most of it happened because of the Sackler family.
unidentified		The what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Sackler family.
		This one family that convinced people that taking these incredibly potent opioids.
		Did you ever see that Netflix docuseries, Painkiller?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see that one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's really good.
		It's all about the Sackler family.
		Peter Berg made it.
		Same guy.
		You know Peter?
unidentified		I know Peter, yeah.
		He's great.
		He's great, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Lone Survivor.
		He made a bunch of excellent movies.
		He's great.
		He made this documentary on documenting how well, it's not a documentary, a docudrama series or recreation showing how this one family they wanted to figure out a way where they could sell opioids to everyone.
		And the way they did it was like giving people pain management tools, giving people medication that you could be on forever.
		And they made it and they pushed it through these different doctors, and they had all these.
		Hot ladies who were representatives of the pharmaceutical drug companies that come to the doctor and they were the reps that would come and sell the things.
		Yeah, I mean, really.
		And they were all financially incentivized to sell it and they tried to pretend that it wasn't addictive and they lied about that and they got who knows how many thousands and thousands and thousands of people ruined their lives because of it.
		And like I said, 70,000 die every year just in America just from opioids.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		From overdoses.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, and how many more would there be of that if it wasn't for Narcan?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's the counter, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the stuff that the EMTs give you.
		If they find you overdosing, they give you Narcan and it kills it and brings you back to life.
		And that one family, you know, no one's gone to jail.
		No one's gone to jail.
		I mean, I don't even know how much they've been fined.
		But if it wasn't for what they did, and again, well documented in that Netflix series, it's horrific, man.
		It's really terrifying because it's not just the people that died and the people that are addicted, it's all the Family members that were affected by them, all the children of those people, and what happened with their lives, all the spouses and the brothers and sisters of those people, and what happened with their lives.
unidentified		That's crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		When you were saying that, the imagery in my head was that scene in American Gangster when it was like Thanksgiving, and they showed Frank Lucas at the table with his whole family.
		They had a nice spread of food, and then the camera went and showed all the families.
		That was hooked on the blue magic drug.
		They had like the lady dying over here, the kid looking at her mother dead.
		So, the difference, I guess, that's the image that came to my head when you said that, but I guess the difference is in that particular case, somebody goes to jail and pays the price for the crime.
		But in this particular case, you're saying that nobody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nobody went to jail.
		They did it legally, somehow or another.
		They pimped it out and then sold it to everybody legally.
		I mean, it's sick.
		They're the biggest drug dealers that have ever existed.
		Fuck all these street drug dealers.
		I mean, these guys killed 70,000 people a year for who knows how many years.
		And it was probably more than that before they figured out Narcan.
		And part of it is also because people get addicted to it and then they get stuff from the cartel that has fentanyl in it and that's why they're dying.
		But there's a bunch of people that just died from straight up overdose of opioids, too.
		It's terrifying.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And it's over the counter?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, it's not over the counter.
		You have to get prescribed, but doctors are happy to prescribe it for you.
		I got my nose fixed.
		I had a deviated septum and they cleaned it out.
		And I was leaving the doctor's office and he gave me two prescriptions for opioids.
		And I said, But I'm not in pain.
		He goes, but you probably will be.
		And I go, but is it going to be worse than this right now?
		Like, we're just out of the operation.
		My nose was, I have like these things stuffed up your nose to keep your nostrils open.
		And I was like, are you sure it's going to be worse than this?
		And he gave me two prescriptions.
		And I went home and I was like, I don't need these.
		Like, I didn't fill them, but I'm like, this is not.
		But this guy was giving me two different opioids to take.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You would have been, he would have had, you would have gone back.
unidentified		I probably would have been hooked.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you would have been back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot of people that got hooked, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not, I'm under no illusion that I'm stronger than those people, that I would have figured out a way to not get hooked.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So many people that I know got hooked.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying, like, let me just go back on this because I actually don't take nothing, bro.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, I drink tea or, you know, I'm very, I mean, I do pump an asthma inhaler.
unidentified		Do you?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when I get it because I had asthma since.
		Yeah, I had asthma my whole life.
		Other than that, I don't really take no Tylenol or nothing, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fuck all that stuff.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But, You're saying, though, at the end of the day, just taking, doing this back at you, the doctor basically gave you some free shit to kind of have you as a customer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because when crack came out, I was like, I think he's financially incentivized.
unidentified		That's what I mean.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think they're financially incentivized to prescribe you this medic.
		Because he didn't say, if you're in pain, contact me and I'll fill you a prescription.
		Because it's just my nose, man.
		It's just the nose.
		It's not that big a deal.
		Like, I slept fine, it was nothing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I try to tell him, I'm like, I don't understand why you're giving me that.
		We had a conversation.
		I go, is it going to be worse than it is right now?
		Like, right now, I'm not in any pain.
		He goes, it could probably get worse.
		I'm like, how much worse?
		Because right now, I don't feel anything.
		It's like nothing.
		It's like mildly uncomfortable because I have these tubes stuffed up my nose.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But this is not, this doesn't require heroin.
unidentified		This is crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm not laughing at you, bro.
unidentified		I'm not laughing.
unidentified		I'm just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it is kind of nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of financially incentivized.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Let me go back to the film.
		No, because in the film, there's an article that our hero opens up in the paper.
		And it's not the same subject, but it's a medical thing.
		And it's just like this particular county is leading in this particular process because there's money in it.
		If it's money, sadly.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know, and that's a movie, but sadly, if there's money involved.
rza ▲ ● ▼		People can become insidious, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		People can become like, yeah, you could get strung out.
		You could get strung out.
		I done sold, you know, I wrote 20 prescriptions this week, and they're not cheap, right?
		How much is the prescription when you fill it?
		Is that like 40 bucks, 100 bucks?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		It's not cheap.
		But more importantly, the doctor gets incentivized.
		When I hear some dark shit, I was reading about this doctor that was an oncologist, so he's dealing with cancer patients, and he was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer because it would.
unidentified		Get him more money.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You kind of fucked me up with that.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Then you kind of hit my emotion because I just lost my brother to cancer, my brother power.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry to hear that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry to hear that.
		Yeah, it's one of the most profitable medications, unfortunately, for physicians.
		Well, not unfortunately.
		Look, if it saves your life, that's wonderful.
		But the reality is, this one doctor that I'm discussing decided that he was going to get paid more by just giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer.
		So he diagnosed a bunch of people with cancer that didn't have it.
		He said, oh, unfortunately, you have cancer.
		The good news is.
		We get you on chemotherapy right away.
		We think we can kick it.
		And they were regular people with nothing wrong with them, and this fucking guy gave them poison.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know how much the chemo costs?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's very expensive.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're talking about 30 to 60 grand a hit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not surprised.
		And the doctors profit off of that.
		It's one of the most profitable medications the doctors prescribe, unfortunately.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of fucked up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And look, most doctors would never fucking imagine doing that in a million years.
		But this one doctor, his thought process was hey, this is how I get paid.
		You know, I'm dealing with all this overhead.
		I'm dealing with all this liability insurance.
		I'm dealing with medical school bills.
		I'm dealing with all this.
		Fuck this.
		I'm just going to start prescribing a little bit of chemotherapy here and there to people that don't actually have cancer.
		And I don't know how he got caught.
		I don't know what happened, but I think it was just.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They got him, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There was some red flag.
		Yeah, they got him.
		He's in jail.
		There was some red flag where they noticed, like, why are so many people getting cancer with this one doctor?
		Like, why is his number so high?
		It doesn't, it's not representative of the percentage that, yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's what's hard to imagine is that money would incentivize someone to tell a person.
		Like, how many people just commit suicide because they think they're dying of cancer?
		And they go, fuck, I don't want to do this.
		I don't want to suffer.
		I'm just going to fucking go out on my own terms, you know?
		Yeah, well.
		How many people's lives did that ruin?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't.
Mining Rubber in Congo 00:08:33
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what's what I was trying to do.
		I had to kind of emotionally rebound from that because it's just.
		You kind of made me think, like, yeah, I don't know, like, you know.
		We don't have the answer to shit, you know what I mean?
		And things happen in life, and sometimes you just like, you know.
		But I do have instinct, and I always, you know, I just felt that something wasn't, I don't know, I won't even go there.
		But you said that money, why would he do it for the money?
		It's like, yo, everything is for the money, bro.
		Motherfuckers is doing, you know, cash rules everything around me, bro.
		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The money, dollar bills.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And people were stuck on that, you know what I mean?
		The goal, hopefully, because we live in a capitalist society, but the goal should be that cash doesn't rule you.
		Money shouldn't rule you.
unidentified		We need it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
		Food, clothing, and shelter.
		You're going to need that.
		There ain't nothing given here.
		But it doesn't surprise me that that's the motivation for insidious behavior.
		I'm going to go back a little history here.
		We're working on another project.
		When we tap into it, it's kind of fantasy.
		I just write off my imagination.
		But I had this family, their ancestors are from Congo.
		And in the Congo, they trace their ancestry back to the Leopold days.
		And you think about the Leopold days, millions of Africans were mined, chopped off their arms and shit.
		All because the gag was they wanted them to work and to get the rubber from the rubber tree.
		So the rubber at one point became the main gold of the world, right?
		And King Leopold went over to Congo, and you get Tarzan out of this shit.
		That's the fictional story.
		But he goes over, and I think they said at minimum 2 million people, but I think it's 5 million that were just mined or killed just for the economic profit of what those rubber trees were offering to Western society.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is what's happening right now with cobalt.
		I had this guy, Siddharth Kara, on the podcast.
		He wrote a book.
		Jamie, do you remember what the name of that book was?
		His book on cobalt mining in the Congo.
		So, cobalt is a critical mineral that's used in cell phone batteries and many electronics.
		And that is cobalt red, the blood of the Congo powers our lives.
		It's a very disturbing conversation.
		And he snuck in cameras and got some footage of these people doing what you think.
		That this stuff is mined in some sort of industrial process.
		Look at this.
		This is how these people are mining.
		And you've got women who have babies on their backs, and all this cobalt that they're knocking out of the ground is completely toxic.
		Some of them just have like a bandana over their mouth that they're using to protect themselves from it.
		But look how deep that is with human beings that are just pulling cobalt.
		They live on dirt floors.
		They live at the lowest level of poverty imaginable.
		They don't have clean water.
		They don't have good food.
		And they are.
		Pulling out a mineral that's essential to the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, which is our connectivity through the internet, through cell phones.
		And this is at the, which is kind of crazy if you think of like the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, if you follow it all the way down to the very bottom of the food chain, you've got slave labor.
		And that's a giant percentage of the cobalt that's in our cell phones and our electronics is coming out of this place.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've never seen that before, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lot of them are run by China.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it's very scary, man.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I've never seen it, but I wrote a lyric that touches upon it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I've never seen those images before.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got video.
		See if you can find the video.
		The video's dark.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think my lyrics said, let's see if I can remember my lyric.
		It was a song I wrote called The Fate of the World is in Your Hand.
		It was me and DJ Scratch.
		And I knew that Cobalt or I knew that they were getting the mineral.
		From Congo, but I didn't know it like that.
		It was something like, you know, as an artist, you're fucking antenna, right?
		You get shit.
		But I said something.
		I said, I'm trying to remember the lyric.
		I said, it was like, hey, could you pull up the lyrics to Rizzo's song, The End of the World as well?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, play that video real quick, but please look at this.
		How crazy is this?
		By the way, all this scene almost biblical toil, the prize is cobalt.
		And here's the thing all this shit is super toxic.
		So, all these people are breathing in this insanely toxic dust and they're knocking it out of the ground with hammers and carrying it off in bags.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Look at this shit, yo.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		This looks biblical, bro.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And imagine how fucking heavy these bags are.
		And they're doing this all day long.
		Look at these guys struggling to pick those bags up.
		And they're carrying this shit all day long.
		And they're just knocking it into the ground, trying to pull out this cobalt.
		And the thing is, this is what we need to power our phones, which is so crazy.
		If you think about all these people that are virtue signaling about how wonderful and ethical and moral they are, they're doing it on a phone that is literally powered by slave labor.
unidentified		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's crazy that this is going on in 2026, and most people aren't even aware of it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is, well, you're back, like I just said, the project I'm working on now, we just talk about it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		We're tracing it back to the rubber tree, but it's still going on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's still going on.
		And that's just cobalt.
		There's other stuff that they're mining there, too.
		It's very similar.
		There's other, what they call conflict minerals.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Pull up my lyric for The Fate of the World.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I just want to just point out what I said there, if you got that on Genius or something.
unidentified		Here it is.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it says, A thousand years of darkness, the world got struck with sorrow.
		Hallowed be thy name.
		We need a better tomorrow.
		Go to the second verse.
		Let me see.
		Let me see.
unidentified		Wait.
unidentified		Oh, no.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wrong song.
		That's what it is.
		Rizzo, I got too many songs.
		It's called.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You forgot the name of your own song, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got too many songs.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What's the other one on that one?
		Go open that.
		No, not that one.
		Go to the other.
		What do you call it?
		The other.
		Go to the album title.
		Yeah.
		Hit the album, Saturday afternoon.
		You're going to edit some of this, right?
unidentified		No.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You don't edit?
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're going.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Y'all going to bear with us.
unidentified		Saturday afternoon, Kung Fu Theater.
unidentified		No, no, no.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Go to the.
		Oh, it's called The Great Fisherman.
		Let me see the titles of the songs.
		Fisherman.
		Yeah, pull that one up.
		Look for those lyrics.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, what is genius?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Genius is it shows all the lyrics?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is?
		And then it actually has a song underneath it.
		Oh, that's cool.
		I didn't even know that existed.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		People can annotate and tell you what people meant by what they said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On genius?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, cool.
unidentified		Okay, right there.
		There you go.
		Look.
rza ▲ ● ▼		The Great Fisherman, a fisherman, are trying to make a remedy for the elixir of sin, a premonition.
		We need divine.
		Intervention.
		This whole world is a stage, so it's time for intermission.
		In the middle of the Congo jungle, there's a combo of concentrated elements that make the world's phones glow.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But they got a small zone for their phones, though, because they don't even got reception out there.
		But we used to communicate just banging on the bongo.
		That's when the village was more motherly and more brotherly.
		But then the dust came through and killed them off of the rubber tree.
		King Leopold's city was built from a sea of gold, and the resurrector still trading on a silky road.
Cobalt-Free Battery Quests 00:10:24
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those are some bars.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Respect.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But point, but I'm not doing that to show off or nothing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But you just gave me, but you gave me like the full, you gave me the connotation and the annotation of the lyric.
		Because I didn't even see none of it.
		I've never seen that before.
unidentified		Oh, that's crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I just heard that they got to get it from there.
		And I knew the history of King Leopold.
		But I did not know that this is still.
unidentified		Still.
rza ▲ ● ▼		This is crazy, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's still going on.
		And it'll continue going on as long as no light is shown on it.
		And this is what Siddharth Kaur was trying to do with his book and the tour that he was doing and doing podcasts and trying to let.
		I mean, he risked his life, man.
		I mean, they questioned him and he got very lucky that he got out of there with that footage.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because they want to make sure that nobody knows about this shit.
		They don't want any outrage.
		They want the mining to keep going as planned.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's dark.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's dark, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it's a multi, multi billion dollar industry that's powered by abject.
		Probably trillion.
		Probably trillion.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because, like, you're just saying, if it's in all our phones, that means.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not just our phones, but I think it's in a lot of electronics.
		I think it might be.
		Is cobalt in electric cars?
		I think they're trying to make new formulations of batteries without cobalt.
		So there's a.
		Jamie, what is that?
		I know a lot of the Chinese cell phones are using a different battery technology.
		Instead of lithium ion, they have something else that's more dense.
unidentified		Well, that's what.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, cobalt's a critical component in lithium batteries.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, lithium ion batteries.
		What is Oppo?
		There's a bunch of these new Chinese companies that have cell phones that have much more battery.
		Instead of a Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra, it has a 5,000 milliamp battery in it.
		I think these Oppo phones have 7,000 plus, but I think it's carbon silicon based batteries.
		I wonder if they have cobalt in them.
		They've, you know, as technology for batteries changes and advances, they need different kinds of components in them.
		But, I mean, then you've got to find out where are they getting that shit from?
		Is that another, like, conflict mineral that they have people digging out of the ground with sticks?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, the other thing to think about, you know, just let's say it is worth trillions of dollars.
		Like, when do the people who, you know, like, if that's on my property, bro, You know what I'm saying?
		You come to my crib for it, I should be getting paid off of that.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I should be.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know how it works.
		China comes in, a lot of these are Chinese run.
		China comes in, they pay off the people that are in power in these areas, and those people will get wealthy.
		And then all the people that are the workers, they all get like pennies.
		As small a wage as you could possibly pay them to keep them alive.
		These people live on dirt floors, no food.
		It's horrible.
		It's really dark, man, because it's what powers electronics, which is nuts, because that's the most sophisticated aspect of our society in terms of technology.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, the government of those places, and not to get here, like I'm an artist and I'm a spiritual man, but they should be like, yo, hold on, bro.
		Yeah.
		Like in Alaska, right?
		There's a pipeline that goes through Alaska.
		You know about this pipeline, right?
unidentified		Sure.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But the citizens of Alaska get a royalty for that.
unidentified		Yes.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, if I'm in Congo and I got this cobalt that's worth trillions and I got all these people, give them a royalty.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		If that was America, that would probably be the only way to do it.
		But obviously, you couldn't pay people the way you pay people in the Congo in America anyway.
		We have laws.
		But this is also why they want illegal immigration.
		That's part of the reason why they like illegal immigration is because you don't have paperwork.
		You don't have to pay people what they're supposed to get paid.
		Do you pull that back up again, Jamie, please?
		About the silicon carbide batteries?
		So, it seems like one of the reasons for utilizing this new technology is because it's not using as much cobalt.
		So, advanced lithium ion technology using silicon to replace traditional graphite anodes, offering roughly 20 to 40% higher energy density and faster charging, especially in smartphones.
		Does it say anything?
		I thought the light.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It did because I had cobalt added onto it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, it has cobalt in that as well?
rza ▲ ● ▼		But less, maybe?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It enables more sustainable cobalt reduced designs.
		So, you have less cobalt and it's more energy density.
		So, these Chinese phones are, yeah, here it is Honor Magic 5 Pro.
		A lot of these OnePlus 13, a lot of these Chinese made Android phones are using much more advanced battery technology.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So they're trying to ease up on it a little bit, basically?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
		The question is like, well, where are you getting everything else?
		Where's all the other shit that's in your phone?
		And how are you mining that?
		If you're hiding how you mine cobalt, how are you mining all the other stuff?
		Because they're all conflict minerals.
		And a lot of these minerals, unfortunately, are mined out of the third world.
		They find them in these places where people are really poor.
		And the people that live there, they don't benefit from it.
		Their lives don't get any better.
		In fact, they get worse because they get poisoned.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing that, but heckle to heckle, let me add some wisdom to that.
		The people got to realize that they are not poor, right?
		Because if that is valuable and you're standing on it, then you're standing on value.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that's why they keep them poor, because they can't organize them.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But think about the Holy Quran for a moment, right?
		Let me go here for a little spiritual here, right?
		So, in the Holy Quran, it mentions, That, you know, if the Muslims were to do what they were going to do, that they would have many wells, right?
		Because, you know, they're living in the desert, basically, right?
		And it says they're going to have an abundance of wells.
		It's not an abundance of water wells in the Middle East, right?
		And these are people that are living nomadic, economically, not really at the level of the rest of the world.
		But it's a prophecy telling them that they're going to have wells.
		But what kind of wells they end up having?
		Oil, oil wells.
unidentified		Right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		And so now all of a sudden they become the most richest small region in the world.
		So the promise is fulfilled.
		Right?
		But the gag is that the people got to realize sometimes where you stand, where you stand on your land.
		You know what I mean?
		The value of it, as the Bible would say, yo, work to the sweat of your brow to dig and plow and make your land valuable.
		But now if you.
		So, I'm just saying that the people where they're going to get whatever they're going to get, bro.
		Okay, I don't care if you're going to get some berries in the Amazon.
		If the berries is worth money, then the dude who got all the berries got to realize that, yo, bro, let's make a deal.
		But it seemed like that ain't happening.
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not happening.
		And the reason why it's not happening is because you have enormous corporations that come in from other countries, they get contracts, and they pay off the people that are the leaders of these countries or the people that are the leaders of the military.
		And then those people keep these people oppressed.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that's what, I mean, it's the people that are running these countries that are making sure that these people don't get paid what they deserve so that they can keep them working there for slave wages.
		So they keep their profits as high as possible.
		They also keep the options as low as possible.
		These people don't have any options.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're living in the Congo and you're near where these cobalt mines are, what are your other options?
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I remember, I'm going to shout out Burnham Boy.
		Burnham Boy is a good dude.
		He had told me some insight about.
		Nigeria and like he was saying to me, like, how Wu Tang when we were young, you know, we had to sling street pharmaceuticals, right?
		But out there, oil is like a street pharmaceutical.
		Like, dudes was slinging petrol and slinging oil and shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I was like, In Nigeria?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, that's crazy, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But the gag I'm saying is that still, you know, of course the government controls all that, but sometimes the people got to just snap, you know, just, yo, I don't know, stand on your land, yo, and realize the value of where you stand.
		You know, every man has a value, right?
		We all walk with a living value.
		Every life is precious.
		Every life that's born changes the world.
		Soon as somebody is born today, this ain't the same world it was yesterday.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Soon as somebody.
		Return to the essence.
		This ain't the same world.
		But so we got to kind of, but the people, I'm going back to the people, not to the military or to the government.
		The people got to realize that, yo, hold on, bro.
		It's you, you're the value.
		Because without them, right, until they do get 10 million robots to do that shit, which I don't, I'm not opposed to that.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Send 10 million robots to dig it up, bro.
		And still, though, if it's on my land, break me off.
		You know what I mean?
		But people got to snap into that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, these places are all guarded by the military.
		So, yeah, it's all people with guns.
		Yeah, you can't leave.
		Yeah, you're doing their bidding.
		You'll get shot.
		Yeah, they kill people, they bury you.
		No one notices, no one cares.
		The value of human life is extremely low.
		Yeah, it's satanic, it's dark.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's jump back on my film because in my film, the value of life, yeah, is once again, we're talking about the world, but yet I got to relate it back because in our film, the value of life seems low as well.
The Low Value of Human Life 00:03:40
unidentified		Yeah, right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Low for the person living.
rza ▲ ● ▼		More valuable for the person that kills them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah.
		Without giving too much of the film away, what happens in the film actually happens in real life.
		I mean, that is, it's based, I mean, you say it's based on real life, but there's been real live cases where people, they've harvested people's organs for profit.
		And that's a thing.
		I mean, that's a big problem with people in China.
		You know, people go to China for organs.
		Like, there's a tourism to get organs replaced.
		Like, say if you need a new kidney or you need a new liver or whatever.
unidentified		We got it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they have it.
		And what they'll do is they'll take their fucking prisoners.
		Oh, look, AB blood type?
		Perfect.
		Whack.
		And then now you got some dude's heart.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Business.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		There's another element that.
		This is Rizzo right here.
		I'm live on Joe Rogan's podcast.
		I got a new film coming out May 1st.
		It's called One Spoon of Chocolate.
		Written and directed by the Rizzo, starring Shamig Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood, Rockman Dunbar, to name a few.
		It's produced by Quentin Tarantino and my wife, Talani Diggs.
unidentified		Hey, baby.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I did an official radio drop because.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That sounded like we were on the radio.
unidentified		Yeah, I did that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Rizza.
		Coming in at five after the hour.
		But I love how art can touch upon things even if it's unintentional, right?
		What I mean by unintentional is that, you know, as an artist, I just let the shit flow.
		Like when you showed all that Congo Cobalt, I never seen it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But yet it's in your lyrics.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's in my lyrics.
		And even as you're telling me there's China stuff here, I don't know about that.
		I do know some things that happened with some articles, but I wasn't, I'm not in depth, in depth, what do you call it?
unidentified		N D E P H T H.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't have in depth knowledge of it.
		But I strive as an artist, Joe, is to actually at least show the surface so that, you know, I don't know how deep the pool is.
		But I will show the surface through my art.
		And I think in this film, which is an action film, though, right?
		So, Joe only seen the first half of it, so he doesn't know about the revenge-o-matic ass kicking.
		And I'm not going to spoil it for you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I believe it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's already plenty of ass kicking already.
unidentified		Right, right, exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Seen some, okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But it gets fucking, you're going to have a good time.
unidentified		I'm sure.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have a good time.
		But still, once again, the art of it, it has a.
		I'm realizing as I'm watching with different audiences, like when I watched it in New York, I had motherfuckers yelling at the screen: fuck that man.
		They were on some shit.
		When I watched it in LA, the audience was like, it was like a sense of nervousness that was in the room.
		When I watched it in Chicago, it was a standing ovation.
		You know what I mean?
		I watched it in San Francisco, and the QA was very intellectual.
		So I'm realizing that, okay, this is touching.
		And when I watched it at this other place, the girl, with Dave, actually, I watched it with Dave Chappelle, he said that, you got bars in this motherfucker.
		I said, what do you mean by bars?
		He said, well, the guy says, the girl says, First, the girl, you haven't seen this scene yet, but Paris Jackson is telling him that everybody in this town goes to church on Sunday, except for Jimmy and his gang of degenerates.
Green Room Rap Themes 00:14:10
rza ▲ ● ▼		They party all night Saturday and they sleep all day Sunday.
		She said, and I guess they're not afraid to go to hell.
		And then the hero says, but where I come from, they say heaven is what you make it and hell is what you got to go through to get it.
		And she was like, that sounds right.
		And Dave was like, that's a fucking bar.
		And yo, hold on.
		So last time I was here, it was Donnell Rawlins, right?
		So check it out, bro.
		I was showing the film to Dave, right?
		And we're going to do a QA.
		I went to Yellow Spring, Ohio, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was Donnell there?
unidentified		Bro.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He was there, yo.
		And then he got up and he asked the question.
		And he started, he interrupted.
		He talked about the day we were here, and you inspired him to do a podcast.
		I remember you said, Yo, start a podcast.
		Boy, you might even help them, right?
		And then he said, And I said, Yo, yeah, if you need something, hit me.
		So he hit me up, said, Yo, let me get an opening theme track.
		And so I got like a bunch of beats that's on my little thumb drive.
		I sent him like five of them, right?
		And he chose one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he told me about this.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So now he chose one, and that becomes his theme.
		And it was a nice fucking thing.
		But that same five tracks, My manager is sending it to other people too and shit.
		So, and I did give it to Donnell.
		I gave it to him gratis.
		But he comes up in the middle of my QA with Dave about my film and he starts talking about the beat and he says, Rizza is an Indian giver.
		He said, I was playing, he said, I had it on my podcast for almost two years.
		And then one day it said, flag, license, whatever they do and shit when you can't use it.
		And I was like, I said, oh, yeah, bro, yeah.
		The people from the Minions, they had got those five tracks as well, and they chose it, and they put it, and they paid us a lot of money.
		Not going back to the money of it all, but.
		So I told him, I said, oh, that's just another beat.
		He said, nah, son, that was the one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That was the one.
		I said, bro, they chose it.
		My manager made the deal.
unidentified		Oh, no.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's off the table now.
unidentified		Oh, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you had to change his opening?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I opened it.
unidentified		Oh, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That gives a board a complaint about.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's almost worth giving him the beat just so he doesn't have to complain.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I owe you, Darnell, and I'm going to hook you up with something.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Actually, going to cook you up something nice.
unidentified		All right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I can't wait for this phone call.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Son, you know what he did to me, son?
unidentified		He took it back.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He said that shit in front of the audience.
		I couldn't deny it and shit.
		I was like, yeah.
unidentified		That's hilarious.
unidentified		That's hilarious.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, but they love the film too.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like the audience, and I'm only saying that because I love when my peers react to something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this your first feature length film?
unidentified		Fourth.
		Fourth.
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know you've done other stuff, but have you written and done other things like this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The way you're doing it this way?
rza ▲ ● ▼		This is my second one writing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I wrote my first film, Man with the Iron Fist.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Which was a Quentin Tantino present as well.
		And then it was a kung fu movie.
		So then I didn't want to get stuck and, like, oh, that's all he does.
		So my second film I didn't write was written by Nicole.
		And she, it was called Love Beats Rhymes.
		And that was like a movie about poetry and a female lead.
		And it was actually John David Washington.
		It was his first feature film as well.
		And then my third film was called Cutthroat City, which I didn't write.
		Just once again, I hired Gunn as a director.
		And in that film, I had Shamik Moore as the lead actor.
		And I kind of fell in love with his talent.
		So that's why he was in Cutthroat City.
		He's in the Wu Tang series, he plays Raekwon.
		And now he's the star of my new film.
		So we kind of got this, I hate to say it, but we kind of got this Denzel Spike Lee energy, this Kugler Michael B energy.
		I really like this guy.
		But on this particular film, yes, I decided to write it and direct it.
		And I'm back to the basic, right?
		Quentin Tantino presented my first film, and now here's my fourth film, and he's back in the building.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		First soundtrack is Baddest Man Alive.
		Oh, that you did with Black Keys.
		That song, that song killed it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Dan and Patrick, yo.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love those two guys.
		They're cool as fuck.
		And that song kills it.
		That song kills it.
		That's such a good song.
		A bunch of dudes used that song as Walk Out.
		Walk Out for the UFC.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I seen it on a fucking car commotion one day.
unidentified		I was like, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys listen to the lyrics?
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I guess all you need is that hook.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		On this, how are we doing on time?
unidentified		We good?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're plenty good.
rza ▲ ● ▼		On this particular film, I got a guy named, you know, Jason Isbell?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
unidentified		Yes.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So Jason Isbell did a song in the film.
		It's called Comic Book Life.
		And it was, you know, it's my first collaboration with him as well.
		And it was a pleasure.
		Lyrics go Jesus Christ walked.
		Jesus Christ may have walked on water and Superman flies through the sky.
		The immigrant crossed the border.
		He's looking for a better life.
		Trying to find it, he's reminded that dreams are born to die.
		His reality kills his fantasy.
		It's not a comic book life.
		You know what I mean?
		And so it goes on.
		And so I try to, when I do films, try to make like a unique, Musical collaboration.
		Of course, that was me and the Black Keys back then.
		But on this film, we got music from Jason Isbell.
		We got clearances from the Isley brothers, who, check this out, bro.
		I'm on a plane three days ago heading to Atlanta to show the film.
		Guess who's sitting in first class in the seat right there?
		Ron Isley.
		I never met him before.
		I'm like the big fan.
		I love his music.
		I got two of his songs in my movie.
		And I'm like, I'm going to show and I look over.
		I'm like, my wife's like, yeah, that's Ron Isley.
		And I was like, I got a chance to get up and thank him for his work and for even allowing his music to be in my film because that's special.
unidentified		Oh, that's cool.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Are you a Ron Isley fan?
unidentified		Not really.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You're not an Isley Brothers, bro?
		Listen, bro, you gotta let me.
		I gotta put you on some Isley Brothers, bro.
		Because if you know, I'm quite sure your love life is good, all right?
		I'm quite sure you got a good love life, bro.
		But if you ever get into any love life trouble, okay, put on the Isley Brothers, it will smoothen out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tell me what to get.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm gonna say sensual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sensual?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Pit that one on.
		And, um, and, uh, yeah, I'm gonna just give you that one because.
		When that the way that comes on, bro, your shoulders gonna start moving.
		Okay, all right, come in with two glasses of wine.
		I'm telling you, bro, is that you're gonna be good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll check it out.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Who's your favorite musician?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh boy, I don't think I have a favorite musician.
		I don't even have a favorite genre, you know.
		I like all kinds.
		I mean, if you look at my Spotify green room playlist, it's All over the place.
		It goes from Nina Simone to Bill Withers to Wu Tang to Leonard Skinner to Led Zeppelin.
		It's all over the place to Gary Clark Jr. to.
		It's everywhere.
		I move around.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You name it some dope shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like to move around.
		I like all kinds of shit.
		I'll listen to Dwight Yoakum and I'll follow it up with, you know, Cool G Rap.
		I like.
		One of my favorite albums ever is when the Brand New Heavies.
		Did you ever listen to the Brand New Heavies when they got.
		Heavy Rhyme Experience.
		Did you listen to that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I know that particular.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Brand New Heavies got together with like Cool G Rap.
		They got together with a bunch of different rappers.
		Who else is in there?
		God, it's like there's a ton of different people that they did these tracks with.
		So they have like the Brand New Heavies playing the music.
		And like Heavy Rhyme Experience is the name of the track.
unidentified		Gangster's in it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Main Source.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What year is this, bro?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		92, I think.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		92, yeah.
unidentified		Right, right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because I remember that first album.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God, you got to listen to some of this shit.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because now in 92, what happens to me in 1992?
		I'm on my own dick now.
		I don't listen to nobody.
		I'm just Wu Tanged out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm trying to make it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I'm like, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, oh, I get it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I missed it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I actually missed a lot of things during my career, bro.
		I realized, like, I'm going backwards.
		Like, there was a point in my life, bro, I couldn't stand RB.
unidentified		Really?
rza ▲ ● ▼		It made me nauseous.
		I'm serious.
		Like, if I'm driving, And RB's on, I felt, no, I was so fucking hip hop, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because you're so concentrated.
		Yeah, it was weird.
		Like I said, that makes sense, though.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it makes sense.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because you were on the grind.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were really trying to make it happen.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Now, you give me, now I play RB, me and my wife, we be dancing around the motherfucking house.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there was a point in time where I was only into 90s hip hop.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, 90s hip hop was my shit.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because, like, that was when I was young and I was on the road a lot, and that was like my getting fired up music was like 90s hip hop.
		But then I started expanding, and then I got into like a lot of like old classic rock and roll.
		And I just think it's all dependent upon your mood, but there's so much different shit that you could listen to.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But this, you got to listen to some of this heavy rhyme experience.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm going to put that on my list right there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Play him that Cougie rap death threat.
		This is like one of my.
		So in the green room, we'll have to cut this out of the podcast, unfortunately, because we don't want to get dinged.
		But in the green room playlist, this is like one of my first beginning of the night when the comedy show starts, and we're in the green room getting fired up, pouring a couple drinks, everybody's getting fired up.
		Someone's rolling a blunt.
		This is one of my favorite songs to start the Green Room playlist off.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Hit me with it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is Cool G Rap and the Brand New Heavies.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's great, and the Gangstar Hectic, that's another one of my favorites.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what's so cool about it for me?
		So I never heard it, but it immediately put me right back in the Staples and Projects, like right back in that time of me, like my.
		Because Cool G Rap is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Love that dude.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So it put me right there.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, y'all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cock Blocking, one of my all time favorite songs.
unidentified		Right, right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Talk like sex.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's so many Ill Street Blues.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ill Street Blues is amazing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And Cool G Rap, I just think in mainstream, just doesn't get the respect he deserves from the influence that he had in the 90s.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think the artists we give it to him, but yeah, you're right, the punk.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Mainstream, there's so many people I bring up Cool G Rap and they're like, who?
		And I'm like, oh, sit down.
		Sit down.
		Let me play some shit for you.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And I didn't ever, he told me this years later that the G stood for genius.
		And he's a fucking genius, even though we got the jizz of the genius in our crew.
		Cougie Rap is a genius, man.
		I was blessed to do a couple of tracks with him in my catalog.
unidentified		Oh, nice.
rza ▲ ● ▼		We actually got a couple that we did together and a couple that I just produced with him and Inspector Deck and things of that nature.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So that's one of the greatest blessings of the art is that I'm sure you do the same as whether you're doing comedy, whether you're doing your physicality, that you had people that you admired and then all of a sudden they're your peers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're collaborating.
		You're doing shit with them.
		Yeah, I know.
		It's very exciting.
		Being able to hang out with them, you know?
		We did a.
		We went to dinner with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery, and then they came to the comedy show, and then we were all hanging out in the green room.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And everybody's like, this is the fucking coolest night of all time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just chilling and hanging out with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery at the mothership green room.
rza ▲ ● ▼		How do you want to beat that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's hard to beat, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody, the next day, we were like, didn't last night really happen?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, that was so fun.
		When I. Speaking of Quentin, when I had a cut.
		That was worthy to show him.
		Our buddy Jared and my buddy Abazar, so Jared kind of owns the old Desi Arnez studio.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He's the guy that started Red Cameras.
		And he has this amazing screening room.
		And so he said, Yo, you can screen it here for Quentin.
		I said, All right, cool.
		So we finally got the date to do it.
		And I go there, and his plus one is Fincher.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
unidentified		Exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I'm just like, oh, shit.
unidentified		That was crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So now I'm like, okay, whoa, okay.
		And I played the film to them.
		And once there was another great night, some great, what were we sipping on?
		We were sipping on some great scotch.
		Yeah, we had some great scotch.
		I don't smoke weed like that no more.
Snoop Dogg's Weed Stories 00:16:21
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, do you still smoke weed?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What happened when you stopped?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I just, I don't function good in public or weed.
unidentified		It does.
		Who does?
		Yeah, well, okay.
		People think they do.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to see that photo.
unidentified		I don't want to.
unidentified		No photo.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't want to be that guy no more.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's like if I'm home, also to be honest with you, if I smoke weed, bro, I start doing kung fu, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm either going to sit quiet and be a total.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you start.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and motherfuckers like, yo, let's just.
		Yeah, exactly.
		I'll start doing shit like that.
		I mean, with a fucking suit on or some shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That sounds fun.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you know, so yeah, I kind of.
rza ▲ ● ▼		2015 was when I stopped.
unidentified		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Completely?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, I mean, yes, for completely, but then I said I will only smoke with two or three people in the world.
		One of them is Quentin Tarantino because we watch our Kung Fu movies.
		We're not going nowhere.
		If I have some weed with him, I know that.
		No photos is happening.
		You're not going to see the Zongi Rizza.
		My other brother I smoke with, I won't say his name because I don't know if people know he smoked.
		I think everybody knows he smoked, but I won't say his fucking name and shit.
		And I'll only see him.
		Once a year, twice a year.
		You know what I mean?
		And that's really it.
		And even, like, I haven't smoked a blunt with Method Man in over 12 years, bro.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And that's my, that's my, that was my, he's the king of smoking anyway, but that was like my, but I just, like I said, I just don't like how, yeah, it just doesn't fit my today's personality.
		So I'm a sipper now.
		I just sip on some, not no syrup.
		I'm gonna eat some sippers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know what you mean.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A little scotch.
rza ▲ ● ▼		A little scotch, a little tequila.
		I love tequila.
		Mezcal.
unidentified		Mm hmm.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's nothing wrong with all those things.
		I think they're all tools, and I think one of the things about tools is you can misuse them.
		I think there's a lot of people that just live in the cloud and they just get high all the time, and then they just feel like their life is out of control, and then pure abstinence becomes the only solution.
		But it's really you just started abusing the tool.
		I think marijuana is an excellent tool for creativity, and the way I like it the most is writing.
		I think it's the greatest thing ever for writing.
		There's something that happens with just not a lot.
		Just a little bit of weed, just all of a sudden, bing, ideas start sparking off in your head that I go, I don't think that these ideas would exist without this stuff.
		That's one of the things that Carl Sagan said.
		Jamie, what was that famous Carl Sagan quote on cannabis?
		But Carl Sagan, who's obviously like one of the most famous astronomers of all time, he had and wrote that great movie, Contact, that great book, Contact.
		He had this quote about cannabis that I always like to say to people that want to say it's for dummies.
		Because it's like, no, man, it's.
		There's something to it.
		You could look like a dummy if you abuse it, just like you could look like an idiot if you get so drunk that you can't walk.
unidentified		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's the same thing, but a little bit, just a little bit sometimes, just fires up.
		The illegality of cancer is outrageous and impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.
		That was one quote, but there was another quote that he had about.
		Ideas that are available through cannabis that aren't available without it.
		That his perception, and obviously, here's a guy that, I mean, what better way to utilize weed than to smoke a little and stare at the fucking vastness of the cosmos and just try to open up your mind to the world.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what I mean for me, right?
		So, if I, so there's only two things going to happen for me.
		I'm going to smoke, then I'm going to just be like, even if I'll be in here finding fucking constellations and shit.
unidentified		You see what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Or.
		Kung Fu.
		I'm doing Kung Fu.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those sound like two good things.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not knocking them, but it's definitely my schedule.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't fit it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it doesn't fit it.
unidentified		It doesn't fit it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing is like, what is life?
		Is life about schedule or is life about enjoying moments?
		And I think there's something to be said for enjoying moments, and there's certain things that will help enhance moments.
		And I think that's where cannabis comes into play.
		I think the problem with it is the problem with anything that human beings abuse, whether it's soda, chocolate, whatever, alcohol, food.
		People abuse things.
		They go too far with it, you don't use it correctly.
		And I think it's also part of the problem with it being illegal.
		One of the things about alcohol being legal is we understand what a dose is.
		If I give you a shot of tequila and we both clink glasses and we do a shot, we understand the dose.
		That is one shot of tequila.
		It's not confusing.
		Whereas we all know weed.
		You know, you get a hold of some of Snoop's weed or some people are just, they're dealing with botanists that are on another planet, man.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Let me say one thing about Snoop's weed one day, bro.
		When I was smoking, I did an interview with him and.
		That's when he had that GSC.
		He had the G.
		He had some network that he had.
		And we were talking about my movie, and then I was going, everything was fine.
		Like, then, you know, he's rolling it, you know, he was talking.
		Then he lit that motherfucker up and passed that shit, bro.
		I hit that shit, hit it back, hit it again.
		I was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here.
		And, yo, I was gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's Joey Diaz weed, too.
		Joey Diaz got that same kind of weed.
		I've given it to some people, and I'm like, careful, that's Joey Diaz weed.
		And they get.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Scared, like, oh Jesus, yeah, you gotta go home one day and make a pillow get a pillow ready because that shit is gonna fucking and he could do it all day.
		Like, him and Method Man out of my and I'll give Burner Boy in that category as well.
		Those are the three most people that I've seen very weed tolerant.
		Like, like, like, like they could be on the third one and then you hit it and you're like, what the fuck, yo, how the fuck, how the fuck are y'all.
		Oh, going like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Going all day long.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When Snoop was in here, he just kept rolling blunts.
		And I was like, How are you still awake?
		How do you function?
		But they're so accustomed to it that their tolerance is so high and that feeling of just being in the cloud all the time.
		They're fine with it.
		Do you find that other quote?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		There's multiple quotes.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He had an essay, so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was something about ideas being available that aren't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was the big quote.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it didn't say, understand himself.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't say that in here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's okay.
		I feel no worries.
		I should have found it.
		I should have had it ready.
		But the point is, it's like it's a tool, and you could use any tool correctly, or you could use it and abuse it incorrectly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, what's your frequency of smoking?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, do you smoke once a day, once a week?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just wish it was legal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it was legal, then people would be.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It is legal in many places, is it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's not federally legal.
		It's just got changed to Schedule 3.
		So, Schedule 3 is the same as Tylenol with codeine.
		So, what does that mean?
		Does it mean that you have to get a prescription for it?
		So, it doesn't carry the same.
		The crazy thing is, it's completely legal in California and it's generating tax revenue.
		It's completely legal in Colorado, generating tax revenue.
		And then people always want to point to the negative aspects of it.
		But, like, you could have negative aspects with everything else that's legal, too.
		Think about how many people die from obesity every year, obesity related diseases.
		Let's put that into perplexity, put that into our AI sponsor.
		What is how many people die because of obesity related diseases every year?
		So, should we regulate food?
		Should we regulate the amount of food that people are able to consume?
		Should we stop people?
		Should we make cake and ring dings and ho ho?
		Should we make that shit illegal?
		No.
		You have to have some personal responsibility and some self control and an understanding of what the ramifications are.
		What are the dangers of overeating or eating the wrong kinds of food?
		That's the same with cannabis, the same with alcohol.
		If you think that alcohol should be illegal, well, people are going to drink it and then you're just going to empower organized crime like they did during the prohibition.
		Okay, how about this?
		World Health Organization reports that at least 2.8 million people die each year as a result of being overweight or obese.
		That's fucking crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Globally, it's 3 to 5 million people a year.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wait, so where's the 2.8 at?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's here?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		No, here is U.S.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		U.S. is here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So U.S., it's 280,000 to 325,000 per year.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They knocked out opioids.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Knocked it out of the park.
		So we're all worried about opioids and no one's worried about pizza.
		But that doesn't mean that pizza should be illegal.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Especially New York pizza, bro.
unidentified		That's the best pizza in this country.
unidentified		Connecticut.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		New Haven.
		Look, you just have to have an understanding of what to do and not to do.
		Don't eat pizza 24 hours a day, every day, you'll die.
		Don't eat a pound of salt.
		You eat a pound of salt, you'll be dead.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't there a documentary where a guy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm not talking about that.
unidentified		Supersize me.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What was he eating every day?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's eating McDonald's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all day, every day for every meal.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And that was like 30 days before the Grimm people started knocking at the door?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he wasn't doing well.
		He had all sorts of liver problems.
		Didn't McDonald's just release some subscription where you get like, it's like $52 a month and you can eat as much as you want?
		I think they just did that today.
unidentified		What's that look, Jerry?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's that face?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make any sense.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know, it doesn't make any sense.
unidentified		$52.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think they just did that today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I saw it on my Google News alert this morning.
unidentified		Did that make sense?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make sense unless they're limiting the amount of meals that you can have in a day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if you have a subscription, say if you have a McDonald's subscription and it's $52 a month and that's all you eat, you could live off of $52 a month easily.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, not according to that documentary.
unidentified		No.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's two months, you're out of here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what if you only ate their salads and you only ate their beef patties without any bread?
		So, probably be better off, probably be okay.
		But even their beef probably has like fillers in it and shit.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm still living a vegan lifestyle, still, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you get mostly for your protein?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Mostly beans.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Um, I probably do consume a little bit too much soy, I think, because I do eat tofu.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to our friend CK, hey, in the building.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, he bought in, yeah, that place rules.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he bought us lunch, which we will eat after we finish this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Phenomenal Chinese restaurant here in Austin, phenomenal.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what he got that I realized?
unidentified		What?
rza ▲ ● ▼		He has those Sichuan peppers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That shit is cracked.
unidentified		They kick.
unidentified		Yeah, they kick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They make my bald head sweat.
unidentified		Yes, that's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They start dripping.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dripping down to my eyebrows.
unidentified		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What were we looking up again, Jamie?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's McDonald's Unlimited.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Did you find it?
		Is it fake?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Well, the only places that it pops up are one Instagram post.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was in my Google News feed.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Ah, it.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		People are reporting it, but it seems to be only based off of a photo, which is most likely AI.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, $54 a month.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This photo is going around, but there's no links to it.
		McDonald's isn't saying it.
		There's no press reels.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
		Oh, so it's bullshit.
		It's bullshit.
		Because I was thinking, how could they afford?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Now, what also I would say, they do do test stuff, and it is claiming it's a pilot program being tested somewhere.
		So, potentially they're trying something out somewhere.
		So, again, I don't see any reporting of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Unlimited meals is a weird thing.
		If you're going to limit it, you can't say unlimited.
		Because if it's unlimited, then you could just feed your whole family for $54 a month.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You go, take one.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Hey, go back in.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you could just say unlimited.
		I like to eat seven Big Macs.
		Give me seven Big Macs, seven orders of fries, seven sodas, and then you're feeding everybody for $54 a month.
		That's crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Does McDonald's own Chipotle?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Do they own Chipotle?
		I'm bringing up Chipotle because I got Chipotle.
		I did a campaign with them, and they gave me a card, lifelong card.
		I could eat at Chipotle for free for the rest of my life.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's part of the campaign?
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, this was like the gift.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		For you, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even know that that was a thing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And I could have 10 people with 24 hour notice.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And I think I could do a catered event at least once a month.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		For the rest of my life.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty good deal.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That is a real thing.
unidentified		Really?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's like a celebrity gold card thing they offer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, not bad.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		People have gotten their hands on it through different ways.
		Like Travis Barker has one here.
		Interesting.
unidentified		I got one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, Travis is a vegan too.
		Yeah, I'm a vegan too.
		Eating just the bean burritos and stuff?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Or the sofritos.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They got some shit called sofrito.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully, there's no chicken in there.
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think there's no chicken.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think it's like a vegan meat.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, most of your animal or most of your protein is from what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tofu?
unidentified		Beans?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, chickpeas.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I love chickpeas.
unidentified		Chickpeas.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Lentils.
		I'm crazy for lentils.
		My wife would throw a pot of lentils.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pea protein is really good.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Pea protein.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hemp protein is really good.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Hemp is good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hemp protein is, I think it's one of the few plant based proteins that contains all the amino acids.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's very bioavailable too.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Look up pumpkin seeds, bro.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds probably have the most best protein.
unidentified		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds.
unidentified		I keep them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It tastes good too.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I keep them in my coffee.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When they're roasted?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Roasted pumpkin seeds.
rza ▲ ● ▼		A little salt on them.
unidentified		Mmm.
unidentified		Trust me.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Every time I get in the whip, I got.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds.
unidentified		What is that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What does it say about the.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and they reduce the risk of cancer and improve bowel and prostate health.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Pumpkin seeds, bro.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Rich in protein, fiber, unsaturated fats, and must have minerals.
		Papitas are a great healthy snacking option.
		All right.
		Yeah, pumpkin seeds are delicious.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so you get those, you get some chickpeas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it weird that people, when they make their fucking jack o' lanterns, they scoop that shit out and throw it away?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, give them to me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like the most, the healthiest part of the pumpkin.
		That's weird.
		It's weird what we throw away.
		Like, we're just so used to, like, waste.
		Yeah.
		So used to, like, having an abundance of food that we're not concentrating on this part of the plant that has the most protein in the plant.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In the plant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Probably the most nutritious part of the pumpkin.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, my buddy was here yesterday.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He, uh, they don't throw away too much of that, uh, too much of that meat for that Texas barbecue you guys got this motherfucking boy.
unidentified		No, they don't fuck around.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yo, there was a 15 minute wait line around the corner, 200 people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where were you at?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which place?
rza ▲ ● ▼		It was, I don't know the name of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Terry Black's?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, because I just drove, my man Abizard went there and said, you know, he couldn't come out to Texas and not get some Texas barbecue.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
unidentified		I'm a vegan.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What am I going to do?
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They have some good beans and macaroni, and it's just a bunch of different stuff that you can get there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Potato salad.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, potato salad.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
Chickens Stealing Mice 00:04:26
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		It's got mayonnaise and milk and eggs.
		Yeah.
		You've been a vegan since the 90s, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, no.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I started vegetarian in the 90s, and by the time I got to 2000, I started.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't fuck with eggs at all?
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, I got rid of the eggs.
unidentified		No?
		Yeah.
		I don't.
rza ▲ ● ▼		The eggs, what got me off the fucking eggs, bro?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think my personality got me off the eggs.
unidentified		Personality?
unidentified		Why is that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		You know, it's like, what's the word?
		I could be scornful.
		Is that the word?
		Like when you like, like, I don't know.
		Like a Felix Unger type of shit.
		You know, you ever watch Felix Unger?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a couple?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, you don't want pits in his orange juice or some shit.
		So, eggs, like one day, it's just the slime of the egg.
		It's just.
unidentified		And just cook it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it then got that little white shit in it, bro.
unidentified		I was just saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so good for you.
		And if you have your own chickens, like I have my own chickens, eggs are karma free protein.
		They're like pets that give you free protein.
unidentified		Right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because they're laying an egg that will never be a chicken because it's not fertilized.
		Exactly.
		So it's just free protein.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they lay them every day, basically, or close to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you feed them, and they run around the backyard and they pick bugs and grass.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What do you feed them?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Chicken food.
		You know, you buy chicken feed and we also feed them some table scraps and vegetables and different things, but they're carnivores, man, which is really wild.
		Like, you see them eat a mouse.
		It's crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They tear mice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You never seen a chicken eat a mouse?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I've never seen the chicken eat a mouse.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Chickens are straight up dinosaurs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's some great videos of chickens around a cat and a cat's playing with a mouse and the chicken just runs up on the cat and steals the mouse from them and tears it apart.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see that, yo.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I fed a chicken that I had, well, One chicken stole the mouse, but this is what happened.
		So, in my house in California, we used to have a wrought iron fence and we replaced it with a glass fence.
		Unfortunately, hawks couldn't tell that it was a glass fence, and we lost a few hawks.
		They slammed into it head first and got KO'd, and some of them died.
		We lost like two hawks died.
		It was really sad.
		But one of them survived, and my family, my wife, and my daughters took the hawk and put it in like a large cardboard box.
		It couldn't fly, and they had to feed it over the weekend because the rescue shelter.
		Couldn't take it over the weekend.
		We had to bring it in on Monday.
		And so they go, Well, what are hawks?
		How do you feed it?
		We went to the store and the pet store, and the pet food store had these things called pinkies.
		And what they are is like little baby mice.
		And so you put these little baby mice in with the hawk, and the hawk ate most of them, but one of them lived.
		One of them, the hawk didn't eat it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		My hawk had enough pinkies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It ate enough.
		So my daughters were like, Well, I want to keep that one alive.
		I'm like, It's not going to live.
		It doesn't have the milk.
		It doesn't have its mother.
		It hasn't been weaned.
		It's going to die.
		And I said, Let me just.
		Feed it to the chickens.
		I didn't even know if they were going to eat it.
		I didn't know what was going to happen.
		I put that little mouse down in the cage, and that chicken just ran up and snatched it, and they all stole it away.
		So, watch this cat.
		This cat's fucking with this mouse.
		The cats, you think cats are ruthless.
		They are.
unidentified		He's playing with this motherfucker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But he's playing with it.
		He wants to watch it hop away, and then the chicken gets annoyed after a while, and the chicken's like, give me that shit, bitch.
		And when the chicken runs up on the mouse, watch this instantaneously.
		As soon as the chicken realizes this, look, give me that shit, bitch, and just starts tearing it apart.
unidentified		Oh, shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Chickens aren't into playing with things at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They just want to eat.
unidentified		Nah, that's right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		This is dinner.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just chasing food.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Playing with the food.
unidentified		I'm out of here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where they were all chasing each other around the chicken coop, where this one chicken had the mouse in its mouth, and they were all trying to steal it from her mouth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they wanted it more than anything.
unidentified		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because they don't act like that with chicken food at all.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They wanted some meat, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or dried worms, or that's one of them, like worm meal.
		You buy these boxes of dried worms, and you shake it, and they come running, and you'll leave that out for them.
		They love that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, okay, so now your chickens, you got your own.
rza ▲ ● ▼		How many?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have 15.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		15 chickens.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So you're getting what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A bunch of eggs, like probably at least 10 eggs every day.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so, because they don't always lay them every day.
unidentified		Of course, of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's free protein and it's healthy for you.
San Diego Mexican Burritos 00:06:54
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know exactly where it came from.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no hormones, no pesticides, no herbicides, no nothing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Let me interrupt our podcast for a moment.
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		This is the Rizza.
		I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan.
		I have a new film coming out May 1st.
		It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Shamik Moore and Paris Jackson, produced by Quentin Tarantino, in theaters everywhere, May.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		First, and that's only a couple days from now.
		Today is the 27th, so it's this Friday.
		This Friday, there it is one spoon of chocolate.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because one spoon of chocolate can do what change a whole glass of milk, change the whole glass of milk.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Um, but anyway, eggs is good for you, they're really good for you, healthy and karma free.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And the only thing that I don't complain about as a vegan, and I don't cook with it or use it, but if some butter slipped on my.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to flip that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you shouldn't because it's just milk that comes out of a cow.
		It doesn't, you know, especially if you get it from an organic farm.
		It's no big deal.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So that's the only thing that, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I use all that plant based butter and they got this thing called, well, now Country Crock got plant based avocado oil butter.
unidentified		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How the fuck do they make that?
		That's the problem with all that stuff that's like fake.
		Meat and fake this is that it's really processed.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think if you want to eat vegetables and vegetarian diet, like the way to do it is the way the Indians do it.
		It's like Indian food from India.
		You know, there's a lot of amazing Indian vegetarian food.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I stay in an Indian restaurant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so good.
		So spicy and so delicious.
		And they've been cooking just vegetarian dishes for probably thousands of years.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Cleans you right out, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It opens up the gates.
unidentified		Bama Lama.
		Let's go.
		Let's go, baby.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Don't have a flight.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you do, get a seat in the back.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's, but it's, there was a place that I used to live near, near my old house in California that was in an Indian neighborhood.
		And it was this Indian restaurant.
		It was like a, you know, like a cafeteria style where you just go and point.
		I didn't even know what the fuck the names of these things were.
		They had photos of whatever it was.
unidentified		Yeah, you want that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it was all in Indian.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I would just point it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it was all, everyone who ate there was Indian.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was very few regular restaurants.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, no white people, no African Americans was all over the place.
unidentified		Where is that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wait, I feel like I might have fucking been there.
rza ▲ ● ▼		In the Valley.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In the Valley.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not a restaurant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, it's like a store in the back of the store.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You've been to that place.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And you can buy some fucking spices of your own.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah, grubble.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		God, I wish I remembered the name of the place because the spices were awesome too.
		It was a great place.
		And in the back, they had this like cafeteria style.
		It was all Indian people.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yep, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Phenomenal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Phenomenal restaurant.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm the kind of guy that do that too.
		Like, I'll go to the Asian market and shit.
		I'll go, fuck, I'll go.
		I know that.
		I'm getting a bunch of good shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's it.
unidentified		India sweets and spices.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Damn, Jamie's a wizard.
unidentified		Nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where is that joint?
unidentified		That's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Canoga Park.
		That's exactly it.
		That's the spot.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's not far from home.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Our old office.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's real close to where my old studio was, too.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I was on, I still got the same office, though, right over there.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yo, bro, your old studio, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what happened to it, right?
unidentified		No.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Bro, that whole shit, they tore that shit down.
unidentified		They did?
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's now the LA Rams training facility.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You remember that AMC?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Bro.
unidentified		Really?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Tow it down, bro.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They building some other shit there.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because back, that's for the fans.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I know I could see Joe's office from my window, or his studio from my window back in those days and shit.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But now, all that is the LA Rams training facility.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I watch the Rams train and shit from my window.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That neighborhood's very interesting.
		There's a lot of cool stuff.
		There's a phenomenal Mexican spot down there.
		What is it called?
		The Big Burrito?
		That's what it's called, right?
		I think that's it.
		There's this.
		Phenomenal Mexican joint, and you go in there, it's all like Mexican soap operas playing.
		Everybody speaks Spanish, no one there is speaking English, and the food is sensational.
		It's that's it, El Big Burrito.
		That place fucking rules.
		I, when I lived there, I didn't tell people about it because I didn't want to blow up the spot, I wanted to be able to go in there.
		I would never bring it up on the podcast, and they've reached out to me thanking me because we brought it up a few times.
		But that place fucking rules.
		You want to get like a legit.
		Burrito, legit quesadilla, legit tacos, like Lengua tacos, like Cowtown.
		I know you don't eat meat, but if you did, and even their bean burritos are fucking phenomenal.
		It's just like real legit spicy Mexican food.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, to me, it's all about the sauce.
rza ▲ ● ▼		If you got good salsa, you know what I mean?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that place is so good.
		There's those places that you find in LA that are real hard to find in Texas.
		Texas, you get a lot of Tex Mex, you know, whereas in LA, you get straight.
		Mexican.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about that for a moment because I actually thought about that because New York, you, I mean, now it's okay, but New York, we, for years, bro, we didn't have good Mexican food, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They do now?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because now it's been more, some more brothers came in and there's some pocket communities.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But trust me, in New York, bro, for years, I thought I was eating Mexican food until I went to California.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, okay, now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		San Diego has some of the absolute best Mexican food in the world.
rza ▲ ● ▼		San Diego is world.
		But I find Texas and New Mexico, like I find this part of the country as well having a lot of good flavors.
		But I'm interested, how do you, like, if you were to say from your travels, the best Mexican food, is it California?
		Is it the Midwest?
		What would you say?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's really good Mexican food in Texas, but you got to seek it out.
		Whereas there's a lot of Tex Mex here, which is also really good, but you could tell it's not straight Mexican.
		You know what I mean?
		It's like a fusion.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And in California, you don't have any of that.
		And California is just Mexican.
		And there's so many great Mexican restaurants in California.
unidentified		Right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		San Diego is filled with them, but LA is filled with them too.
		But it's spots like that, like the Big Burrito, where you go to a place like that, you walk in, you're like, oh my God, I'm home.
		Because it's like the smells, and then you see the Spanish soap operas playing.
unidentified		Right, right.
unidentified		This is real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is legit.
Driving Tesla Escalades 00:06:26
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was driving down the street last night and shit, and I just found this really funny, right?
		So I'm driving down the street.
		I mean, I'm not driving, personally, I don't drive.
		But the car, my car.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't drive at all?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't drive.
unidentified		Really?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Since 2012, I haven't driven a car.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How come?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I just, I just, I let it go.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what happened, bro?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What happened?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I was in China.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to drive in China.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, I got to be honest.
		Like, we were doing the film there, and every time, every morning that I would go to work, it almost, like, every day, it almost happened.
		Like, it almost, like, that's that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Almost car accidents.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, every day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, and even, even, even, even, like, when my brother Russell Crowe, like, we'll get to set on the morning.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love that dude.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And, yo, he'll say the same thing, like, yo, Bobby, like, I thought, yeah, bro.
unidentified		We made it.
unidentified		Right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		But so then when I came home, I just stopped driving, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You just didn't want to be a part of it anymore?
unidentified		Nope.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I haven't drove since then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever fucked with any of those Waymos?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You ever gotten any of those things?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I do have a Tesla that'll drive me.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Have you done it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've had it drive me all the way home.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		How do you feel, though?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Uncomfortable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't like it.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like driving.
		I do.
		I enjoy driving.
		But with my Tesla, I'll put an address, like, say, if I want to go to a restaurant or something like that, and go doo doo, and it'll drive me.
		It'll stop at stop signs and stoplights.
		It'll change lanes if there's anything in the way.
		It hits the blinkers to change lanes.
		It turns.
		It does everything.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it literally can drive you from point A to.
		Do you ever fuck with it, Jamie?
		Do you ever use it?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I just found out through the update that, like, and then I haven't been using full self driving, I've been using whatever was right before that.
		Which to me, I thought was the exact same.
		It drives itself too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's the difference?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Because it said that it gave me an option to turn it on.
		I was like, I thought I was, what?
unidentified		Hold on.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		What am I doing then?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Because it still drives itself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember because I got my subscription, right?
unidentified		Isn't it?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's when I got it.
		I was like, wait, I thought I had it.
		Hold on.
		Whatever it's been doing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whatever it is, I definitely have it.
unidentified		What do you mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's part of a subscription.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You mean it ain't automatic?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		I think you pay more for it.
		I'm not sure.
		I don't want to talk out of turn.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I also didn't understand it either, but yeah, I think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you pay for it because I think it's more complex.
		It's using a bunch of different.
		I don't know, making things up.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I do know it works.
rza ▲ ● ▼		If you press it, I saw a Waymo on the way here to you.
		And it was right beside us.
		I looked in there and I was like, yo, bro, why have a steering wheel with the old school fucking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		With a gear changer?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		If nobody's going to dry this shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, in case it breaks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then, if somehow or other, maybe there's an override where you could just drive it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but still, that's the grandma thing, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The shifter on the column?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's like, this is, we in the future.
rza ▲ ● ▼		There shouldn't be no steering wheel like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My Cadillac has that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My Cadillac shifts on the column like that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's for the, what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		An Escalade?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Does it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Putting drive like that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I thought the shit is right here now.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I got my shit right here, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pretty sure.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That might be for your bikes or shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm pretty sure.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I have a bunch of cars.
unidentified		I don't drive.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't drive.
		We're going to put a studio in at the racetrack, at the Circuit of the Americas.
		I'm going to take you around the racetrack.
		I'm going to put you in a car.
		You're going to drive around the racetrack.
unidentified		Oh, wait.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what I'm talking about.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the new one.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it says 2023.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, 2026 Escalade V. Escalade.
		Yeah, but it doesn't, that's not how it works.
		I'm 90% sure.
		There it is, right there on the column.
		See it?
unidentified		Oh, yeah, that's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right there.
		That's how it is.
		That's what mine looks like.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See that little.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They put it back up there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they put it back up there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it clears all the room on your console.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right, for the cups and all that stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's where mine is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, I'm coming.
		Well, I'm going to escalate yesterday, right?
		I don't know where the gear shit was at.
		But I got the window down, getting some of this beautiful Austin Air.
		And a truck drives up beside me, playing this Spanish song.
		He's blasting this shit.
		This shit sounds cool like a motherfucker, right?
		I'm like, yo, what is this shit?
		So I shesam it.
		So I shazam it and then I get the song, right?
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And then I start playing it in my car and the truck is going on.
		But then we're still driving slow.
		Then I can see the car beside me.
unidentified		They shazammed it.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I was like, wait a minute, that doesn't happen.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's what we need again.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Like, where somebody's just playing some fucking music.
		You never heard the song before.
		You like it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so I love Shazam.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I got two Spanish songs now in my joint that is part of my new playlist, yo.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They just got from listening to people's cars.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Just driving by, like, yo, hold on, that shit sound dope.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a new thing, right?
		Because we don't have radio as much anymore.
		There's not a lot of people listening to the radio.
		A lot of times you're getting new songs.
		Oftentimes, I'll be at dinner someplace and they'll be playing music.
		I go, oh, what is this?
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I'll put my phone up in the air and try to catch it.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's dope.
		That's one of the greatest things about technology to me because it's that ability to know.
		You know, like you can know now if you want to know.
		You don't got to wait to know.
		You're like, you know what, motherfucker?
		Like, every time you get a thought here that we're not too sure about, he could hit that button and give us a reference.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes we leave a podcast and I'm like, maybe we should have looked that one up because it turns out that shit's not true.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have beaten Google a few times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You've won?
unidentified		You've beat Google?
Counting Square Inches on Earth 00:09:52
unidentified		I've beat them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, Google's a little deceptive, I think.
		But if you use AI, like we use Perplexity, it searches for the whole internet.
		It doesn't just, you know, use whatever Google.
		The problem with Google, not that it's a problem, but these are curated searches.
		So, like, say, here's a perfect example.
		Say if you want to find a Mexican restaurant, right?
		And you use Google.
		What Google's going to do is, Some people are paying so that their restaurant gets to the top of the search list.
		That's a little bit of a problem.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that might not be the best restaurant.
		That might just be a restaurant that paid Google.
		Whereas if you go to like Perplexity and say, in terms of like restaurant critics, what is the favorite authentic Mexican restaurant in Austin?
		And it'll tell you.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It'll say, these people believe that this is it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And there's no curation yet.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, my wife is actually, we were talking about this today.
		Like one day, they're gonna that up too, and people are gonna pay to get that.
		But right now, they haven't done that.
		So, right now, you could find spots like cool spots that haven't, you know, with no curation, sponsored exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Let's check, let's do a test real quick, okay?
		Okay, so there's 196,940,000 square miles on the planet, right?
		Whoa, there's 63,360 inches, right?
		Because it's 5,280 feet in a mile.
		So I'm going to start over.
		There's 196,940,000 square miles in the country.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On the planet?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On the planet.
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		For one mile, there's 5,280 feet.
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And of course, there's 12 inches in the feet.
		So you multiply that by 12, you'll get 63,360 inches.
		I want perplexity to tell me how many square inches on the planet.
unidentified		Ooh.
unidentified		Let's see what you get.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Boy, that number's got to be bananas.
		I guarantee you, we're going to look at a long fucking number.
		A lot of zeros.
		That's a good question.
		That is a good question.
		Dun, dun, dun.
		Does it even have an answer?
		It's probably confused.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's like, hold on, what the fuck are you talking about?
rza ▲ ● ▼		You're perplexing me.
unidentified		What are you doing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We perplex perplexity.
unidentified		There you go.
unidentified		Okay.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I didn't answer correctly the first time I typed it in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Eight times 10 to the 17 square inches on Earth's surface.
		What does that look like in a raw number?
		Ask it what it looks like in a raw number.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's now 8 with 17.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		17 zeros?
unidentified		Pretty much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		10 to the 17th?
		That's what that is?
		17 zeros?
rza ▲ ● ▼		So basically, it took the 63360 and they squared it.
		Uh huh.
		And that's how they got to there.
unidentified		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But it didn't give us no fucking direct answer, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it did, but it did it with 10 to the 17th.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so let's do this now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Type that out.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Type that number out.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And divide it by four.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's see.
		Type it out.
		I'm going to see what this looks like.
		This must look bananas.
unidentified		Whoa!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And now divide it by four.
		Before you do that, can you ask it?
		How would you say that?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to figure it out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not a trillion.
		It's not a quadrillion.
		What is that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's a quintillion.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it a quintillion?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is a billion, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is a trillion.
unidentified		So it's a quadrillion.
unidentified		Wait, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How say just sign just to ask it, how would you say that, please?
		How would you say that?
		800 quadrillion square inches.
		Wow, remember when you were a kid, you'd think that was a fake word.
unidentified		Yeah, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want a quadrillion money.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Would you believe that the earth weighs?
		The atmosphere weighs 15 quintillion tons.
		Let's see, this evolves.
		Does the atmosphere, yeah, that's the atmosphere because the planet Earth weighs six sextillion.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Kanye said the wildest on my podcast once.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He goes, How much does the Earth cost?
unidentified		Right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And at the time, I was like, What?
		And then I thought about it.
		I was like, Oh, like property is valuable, you can own property, right?
		Like, everybody kind of everything is owned.
		How much is the Earth?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's a big, that's a, well, you could get the number there too because, well, if you count the minerals.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And you got a whole other hustle.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And then there's the oil in the ocean.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The ocean.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And the fish.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then all the animals.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And then it has to appreciate day by day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why don't I put that into perplexity?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you were going to sell the earth, how much would it be worth?
unidentified		Ooh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Occluding everything on it.
		That's a mind fucking half.
		Economists usually estimate the world's real estate, all land plus the buildings on it, a few hundred trillion US dollars, not counting oceans, polar ice, or unowned space.
		That sounds like a bargain.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A few hundred trillion, that's it?
		Okay, let's say, let's ask what is the worth of the earth, all its property, all its minerals, animals, and objects?
		That's a crazy question.
		That's a crazy question.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a good one, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everything on earth, every watch, every diamond ring, every hat.
rza ▲ ● ▼		One dollar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Every piece of art.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the question I typed in was property and lands.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		What is the value of everything on earth?
		I like what you said, every electronic value of everything on earth, including.
		Including animals, minerals, property, and objects.
		Oh boy.
		I wonder how it's going to figure this out.
unidentified		I bet it will.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's going to look off of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's going to freak out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's going to blow a gasket.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's not figuring it out.
unidentified		Yeah, it does give you some information.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no precise number.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, somewhere in the quadrillions to sextillions of US dollars, depending on what you count and how you value it.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It says plausible attempts to add it up.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no single agreed upon price tag for everything on Earth, but this is the answer to Kanye's question.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But you know what, though?
		Now, hold on, we just learned something there.
		It said quadrillion to what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sextillions.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Now, ask, how much does the planet Earth weigh?
unidentified		Yeah, that's why.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I already did that, but we've passed it before I could show you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Atmosphere weighs 12 quintillion pounds in total.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I said 15, so I was off.
unidentified		I forgot that number.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But ask, how much does the planet Earth weigh?
unidentified		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much does the entire earth weigh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's guess.
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, not, no, don't do the atmosphere.
		We're just trying to get the value.
		I want to see, I want to see if he gives you.
		I mean, the atmosphere should already be included, right?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I think that's why I think it won't include it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So basically, what is that word?
		What is that in a word?
		Ask that what that is that 13.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, tell him put it, put that, put it in pounds, not kilograms.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that's not even seven, that's eight.
		What does that mean?
		Right, but what does that ask it to say?
		Can you say that?
		Yeah, what does it mean?
		How do you say it?
		Septillion.
		13 septillion pounds.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't sound impressive.
unidentified		No.
		No.
		It doesn't.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like a couple lizards.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But you know, I believe it's wrong, bro.
unidentified		Why?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because when you take the square mouse, the circumference, Right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		And you multiply the, there's a formula to get that weight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't come out to that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What does it come out to?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Six sextillion.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Six followed by 21 zeros.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is more.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This was three more zeros on top of that.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But it sounds good.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But if you take the formula of a sphere, of the mass, like this number is closer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But does it take into account the density of the inner earth?
		Because I think that's probably where a lot of the weight is coming from, right?
		The density of the inner earth is immense.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's all compressed down.
		Yeah, it's compressed into the core.
		If it's hollow, it could be hollow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it's hollow.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Okay, hold on.
Six Sextillion Zeros 00:15:49
rza ▲ ● ▼		We got to take a sponsored break.
		This is the Rizza live on the Joe Rogan podcast, Joe Rogan Experience.
		I have a new movie coming out May 1st.
		May 1st.
		It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Shamik Moore, Paris Jackson.
		Blair Underwood.
		It follows an ex military convict who comes home and is trying to find a better life for himself, ends up in a small town where everything goes fucking bananas.
		In theaters, everywhere.
		May 1st.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When is it going to be available on streaming?
unidentified		I don't know.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Soon, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you usually do that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be honest, I'm like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like Iron Fist was, what year was that out?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That was 2011, 2012.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it was a different atmosphere back then.
		Pre COVID.
		COVID changed a lot of like movie going habits.
unidentified		Changed everything, yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I want the movie going experience to come back though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do too.
		Yeah.
		I mean, there's something about going to see a great movie with a bunch of people that's a real experience.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think I'm so much.
		I mean, my art, my career is based on sneaking into a fucking movie theater and watching three Kung Fu movies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I'm a big into cinema.
		I think what we did so this particular film is actually coming through my own distribution company called 36 Cinema.
		And I think we did a deal with the theaters that they can have at least 30 days.
		A lot of people are doing 17 days in the theaters or 21 days.
		And cinema is suffering because of that.
		Because why would we go to the theater if I got it at home?
		You know what I mean?
		And home is, of course, a great place to watch a movie.
		But when you're making a movie, right, you're making it for the theater.
		We haven't.
		TV is made for home, but cinema is made for cinema.
		Like we haven't.
		What can I say?
		Like the sound, the color, the framing.
		Like, I use anamorphic lenses.
unidentified		What does that mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Anamorphic, like the lenses of the 50s, when you fucking get this whole fucking scope.
		You know what I mean?
		And so, yeah, you can watch it on your phone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the difference with an anamorphic lens and a regular lens?
rza ▲ ● ▼		A regular lens would be the way it bends the light in all reality.
		So, like, you could have, like, 16.9.
		Okay, see, most lenses are spherical now.
		That's that, right?
unidentified		Which is cool.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Right?
		But look at anamorphic.
		It's the way it controls the light, the way the subject is happening.
		And so, it kind of gives you more of a cinematic feel.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, your focus, it's certainly, like, a little more blurry in the background.
unidentified		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And it kind of, it's the way it's compressing that light differently.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so you, with this lens, do you do everything on film or is it digital?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I actually shot this on digital.
		So, yeah, so, I mean, I'm in the digital age, so I did shoot digital.
		But I did, we did make 35 millimeter prints of the movie.
		So, if you're in California and you would go to the theater called The Vista, have you ever been to The Vista?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Cool theater.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where's that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think it's in Las Files or some shit like that.
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm bad at my Hollywood neighborhoods.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, I'm still a New Yorker.
unidentified		Right, I get it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But, um, the Vista Theater will show the film on 35mm for like two weeks.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It'll be there starting May 1st.
unidentified		Oh, that's awesome.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So if you want to see it, yeah, if you want to see.
		And 35mm, oh, there you go, the Vista.
		I love this guy.
		Hey, Jamie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie's the best.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, his trigger finger is a motherfucker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's a goat.
		Well, he's psychic.
		He knows what you're talking about before you.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He's like, duh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Um,.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that's the Vista.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, what is the difference, like the way it looks to you when you see it on 35mm versus digital?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think the 35mm kind of makes the colors a little more richer and darker, like kind of how the 70s films look, even up to the 80s.
rza ▲ ● ▼		The digital one, because I've watched my film on both formats, the digital is more brighter and actually more familiar now to us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're accustomed to it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		We're accustomed to it.
		But when I played it on April 22nd, I had a.
		In fact, I want to talk about that a little bit if you don't mind.
		But on April 22nd, we had our premiere in California on 35mm.
		And it was my first time seeing it on 35mm.
		I mean, so.
		And it felt.
		It felt very nostalgic.
		I felt like I was back.
		It felt like a movie only.
		Like, I mean, not like a movie and a TV show or a movie.
		It felt only like a movie.
		Only a movie experience, the flickering.
		When you're doing 35mm, you need.
		You know, a real camera.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And so the light is going from this camera, from this one.
		Then they got to switch the reel from this, from this.
		And it's like, it's a certain thing that's happening, a certain pacing, a certain granular thing that's happening that for me, for my film, it felt almost like an honor to watch it like that.
unidentified		Oh, that's cool.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I want to make a.
		So check this out, bro.
		So we talked about this last time I said, but April 22nd, right?
		That was the day.
		That I was acquitted from a crime and started my life over.
		I was facing eight years.
		April 22nd, that's back in 1992.
unidentified		Okay?
rza ▲ ● ▼		As you can see, a year later, I'm a platinum producer.
		But before that, I was heading to hell.
		April 22nd, serendipitously, is the day that my film premieres on 35mm.
		At the Vista Theater in Hollywood, April 22nd.
		But you've seen the opening of the film as well.
		So, when my character gets out of jail, he marks on the calendar the day he gets out, April 22nd.
		It's special.
		This is a special film.
unidentified		It's special.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's for my life, I'm saying.
		For me, it's like.
		Oh, that's cool.
		And it was my buddy Shavo from System of a Down birthday.
		We actually celebrate April 22nd every year because it wasn't my birthday, but it was the birth of the Rizzo, because before that, I was known as Prince Rakim.
		But after that, And my mother telling me, you know, you got a second chance.
		I was like, exit Prince Raheem into the Rizza.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, when you were talking about the streaming thing, so do you, is that something that's negotiated beforehand?
		Like, it'll be in the theaters for X amount of time?
		Or do you, once it's in the theater, do you then, like, depending on how well it does in the theater, is that how you negotiate a streaming deal or how does it work?
unidentified		No, it works.
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, it works.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's usually negotiated ahead of time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And the streamers kind of dictate what's going to happen.
		So, since we had this on our own company, we had a chance to make the rules ourselves.
		So, I didn't make a streaming deal, but I made the theatrical deal first.
		And I gave the theaters 30 days first.
		And so now, my streamer, he would go, my streaming distribution, which is our Samuel Goodwin, they would go and I hope I pronounced that right, bro.
		I could fuck a word up sometime.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that's the right word.
unidentified		Okay.
		Okay.
		What up, Peter?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm the wrong guy to ask, though.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can fuck a word up.
		But anyway, so, yeah, he'll solicit to streamers, but we wanted a 30 day cinema experience.
		And in the future, I'm going to try for 45 days, bro.
		Remember when we were kids, bro?
		Star Wars was in the theaters three times before you had a chance to see it come home.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And what did you do?
rza ▲ ● ▼		You went back to the theater.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Because the lights, the sound, the vibe of what you're creating, I make it for the theater.
		I got to be honest with you.
		I make film for the theater.
		When my other film came out during the pandemic, Cutthroat City, since it was a pandemic, you know, even though my contract said it should be in theaters, the pandemic of it kind of made it a force majeure, like maybe not in theaters.
		But my producer, Michael Mendelssohn, who, you know, is a good guy, he said, All right, but I said, Yo, bro, I didn't make this shit for no streaming, bro.
		Okay, I shot my shit on anamorphic lenses.
		I got all the sound like I made it for the theaters.
		He was like, yeah, but the theaters ain't popping, bro.
unidentified		Nobody's going to the theaters.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I was like, well, I don't know.
		Then hold it.
		But he said, I can't hold it, bro.
		Like, you know, it's business.
		But he still, no, but he still said, okay, I'm going to pitch you on 200 screens.
		And you could go and get to, you know, and he did it.
		You know what I mean?
		So all my films has always go to the cinema first.
		And if I have my way, every film I make will always start at a cinema.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever tried using those?
		What is the Apple one, Jamie?
		Those Apple AR goggles?
unidentified		Apple Vision Pro.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I heard watching movies on those is phenomenal.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But you have to also design it for that, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to get the full experience because, come on, you're going like this.
		And there's been some artists who have been able to create stuff for that.
		It's almost like, I mean, I won't say it's like the Sphere.
		Have you been to the Sphere?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But only for a fight.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They had a UFC there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was amazing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I love it there.
		But Darren Ionoski had a movie made directly for the sphere.
		In fact, there's another movie.
		They're doing another movie right now that they showed me a clip of that's going to be made in a sphere.
		And it's actually very sports based.
		And so it's crazy.
		And of course, The Wizard of Oz.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I heard that's nuts.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've seen that there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You saw The Wizard of Oz?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I heard there's all sorts of crazy new effects and they added a bunch of stuff to the movie.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing.
		And it's fucking.
		But The Sphere is amazing anyway, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's an incredible experience.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is a new thing AMC has just shown recently and announced called Screen X.
		It's 270 degrees.
		It's going to surround the.
		The audience in some way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's how you get people to go back to the movie theater.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Give them something like this where they're like, what?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like recut, so it might be a fun way to go back and maybe see a movie you really liked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, like see Avatar in that?
unidentified		Like that.
unidentified		Alien.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They got the Matrix like that now.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's Cosm.
		That's kind of like the fear thing.
		Oh.
		This just sort of is announced.
		It's only in two cities right now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a place, I know there's a place in Dallas where they show UFC fights.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's Cosm.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's Cosm?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's where that Matrix thing is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts, man.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I love that he got the asses.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He's a genius.
		But with the place in Dallas, the Cosm place, you're seated here, and the screen is like 60 feet tall, and it's right in front of you.
		And you're watching the fights as if.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is the Matrix.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so this is the Matrix.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they worked with the film company to sort of remake it and add extra stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		There's also a new screen I just saw.
		I think it's going to be in Clearwater, Florida.
		It's going to be the world's biggest screen.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See if you can show.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'll show you the fight thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, show me fight scenes.
		Like, people were watching the fights there.
		I was like, okay, that might actually be better than being there live.
		Like, look how crazy the size of the screen is.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, look who you're watching.
		Like, you're sitting right there.
		I mean, that fight is gigantic, it's huge.
		Because the thing about going to see the fights live, look at how big that is.
		Yeah, show that again.
		Like, look at that.
		Look how nuts that is.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is nuts.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You don't get to see these camera angles at home either, which is awesome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not like that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I love this because this has given me hope, bro.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Everything you just showed me is giving me hope for cinema.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And this is cheaper than buying tickets, and this is better than any ticket you could ever buy for the fights.
		Better than anything.
		Better than my seat.
		And I'm sitting cage side.
rza ▲ ● ▼		How much a ticket like this would cost?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		They do sell tickets for this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Click on that one.
		May 9th.
		How much does that cost?
		$40.
		$100.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		If you want to sit probably real close, you have $20 to get inside.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, general admission is $20.
		What is the front row?
		Where's the displays right there?
		What are those?
		Like right there where it says $2?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know where you'd want to be.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		$167.
unidentified		How much?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		$167?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a bargain compared to how much it would cost if you actually went to see the fight.
unidentified		Nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's probably a better experience.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Plus, you get commentary, you get to hear everything, and you're right there.
unidentified		And then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not just like being at home, which is great because there's a bunch of people you're experiencing with, so it adds to the experience and the energy.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's the knock I was going to say with the Vision Pro it's still to right now, you're by yourself.
		It's kind of, for me, I'm a single guy in my apartment with a dog, perfect.
		But if you're at home with anybody, you're like, well, I can watch it.
		I don't have five of these.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Catch out to me later.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Could you watch it with a chick where you hold hands and you both have Vision Pro and you both start at the same time?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Three, two, one, go.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's funny.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's me and my wife on a plane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you do that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Even on the way here, bro, what do we watch?
		We watch, oh, Sebastian.
		How do you say Sebastian?
		And the last name is he's a.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Manus Calco.
unidentified		Yeah, thank you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a comedian.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		We watched him.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He's a funny guy.
unidentified		Hilarious.
rza ▲ ● ▼		He's a funny motherfucker, bro.
		Very funny.
		Yeah, so we do that every time, though.
		But we watched him on the way.
		So I don't want, she wouldn't want to see me laughing and she ain't laughing yet.
		So we hit the button at the same time.
unidentified		And, you know, that's the thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They should have like a simultaneous viewing option.
		Are you going to watch it with someone else?
		Would you like to view it simultaneously?
		And then have them sync up with each other.
rza ▲ ● ▼		One plane does that.
		One plane does that.
		What airline was that?
unidentified		Qantas.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think Qantas is up on that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they got those 16 hour flights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They got to make things interesting.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they got to say, it's actually, it says watch with a friend.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's smart.
		That's smart.
		Yeah, it's interesting.
		Like, what is the next level past AR with those goggles?
		It's going to be an immersive experience where you're actually.
		We had the people from Perplexity who were here earlier today, and we were talking about how people with AI and all this stuff, they're going to want more.
		Human experiences, like going to see a live concert or seeing a sporting event live.
		I'm like, yeah, until it's completely immersive.
		And then it's like you're playing a video game, but you're in World of Warcraft or you're in Battlefield Earth or whatever game you're playing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think for that form of entertainment, a video game, yes.
		But I still think because even, you know, it's more senses, bro.
		It ain't just the sight and sound, it's the smell.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what if they can recreate that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what if they get the technology where you can create a movie, but the person who is watching the movie is standing on the street, like in the opening scene where those girls pick that dude up in that sob convertible?
Immersive Dolby Atmos Gaming 00:07:27
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what if you're standing, you feel the street, and you watch the dude get in the car?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But you're saying at home by yourself?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, you'll be terrified in my film.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you'll be in it.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You'll be in it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That'd be interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that's coming, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that's coming.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, if that comes, reach out to me and I'll write a script to make sure that we fucking hit you with it right.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have to capitalize on all the different things that can take place.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What do you think about that?
		Do you remember the Saab fucking 900?
		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A friend of mine had one of those.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It was a cool car when they were done.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They were interesting looking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They were like futuristic, they were different than any other car.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's why in the film, I was like, well, what kind of car are you on?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I was like, give me a Saab.
unidentified		I said, why?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I said, well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Can they still make them?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		I think they might have.
		No, I don't think they definitely don't make new ones.
		Uh oh, hold on.
unidentified		Let's get that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		That's a good question.
		I know they make Volvo still.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was in a Volvo.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they still make sobs.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I was bankrupt in 2011.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no more sobs.
		But the punchline for me was that this sop, and I'll give you one spoiler of the film.
		As you finish the second half of it, there's no time.
		So, I removed the time from the film so you don't know what year you're in.
		And that's why you'll see the sob, but then you'll see when they're playing their video game and shit, they're playing their fucking AR goggles.
		And a glove that don't exist.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I thought that too.
		When I was seeing them move, I go, is that real?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the idea is that I'm glad you brought that up.
		I want that to happen.
		I want to see one day I could play a basketball game like this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That'd be dope, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That would be.
		They're getting real close to stuff like that.
		They're getting real close to stuff like that.
		We have an AR game out there that you, it's a zombie game.
		And you put the headphones on, the headset on, and you run around and you have an actual gun and you're shooting zombies.
unidentified		Right, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you're pointing it at it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, they're getting really close.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'll show you something I discovered.
		Shout out to this guy.
		I think he's doing this all on his own.
		I found him and tweeted at him one day, but he didn't answer.
		Daniel Habib is his name.
		He's got this company called True 3D.
		He's done this with two movies so far, and I think you have to be in the theater to experience it.
		But it's kind of exactly what we're talking about.
		He converted a movie, I think Insidious, a scary movie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a scary movie.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He's not showing you what because he's being smart.
		He's also developing it still.
		And he also did it with Interstellar just recently.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I almost flew to New York just so I could go see it because I was very curious.
		This is cool.
		It was awesome.
unidentified		Yeah, it looks cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So he adapted it to the Vision Pro?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's just in MetaQuest headsets, I believe, and you probably have to be at the the theater because I think that's where the sound's coming from.
		You probably had looked it up.
		As the user watching it, you get to decide how.
		In depth, this becomes because if you want to see the people next to you, you can sort of like go like level two and still see your neighbor.
		Oh, four and be like fully in the room and you can't see anybody else.
		You can maybe just touch them because you know they're there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like how some people are jumping, then there's some people that are like dead on the inside and moving because these are jump scares.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He has that built in, so you know when a jump scare is coming or you don't know when a jump scare is coming.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, interesting.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You have to be super scared, or you can know and not be scared that you know someone's going to come from behind you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why would you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ass up.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's on.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This seems like it could fucking give you a heart attack.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe it's people with weak hearts.
unidentified		It could be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let me know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let me know when I'm going to get it free.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And also, Dolby.
		I saw.
		You seen it.
		I saw Dolby made this thing.
		These glasses.
		Have you seen these Dolby glasses, bro?
unidentified		No.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That.
		That you could hear shit, bro.
		Like surround sound with glasses on.
		Dolby.
		Yeah, I mean, I hope I don't not be feeling a secret.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is it doing different?
		Like, what do you mean you can hear things?
		You can watch, see, and hear.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And don't be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it's surround sound glasses.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so the glasses, is it projecting it into your inner ear?
		Like, how is it doing?
		Does it plug into your ear?
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't even plug into your ear.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it's one of those things that sits above the ear on the outside, like pressing against your skull?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They kind of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They have headphones like that, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've seen that.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I've seen some headphones that give you 12.1 or 12.1.
unidentified		Yeah, like earbuds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they don't go in your ear, they like sit on the skull.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, see if you can find those Dolby glasses.
		I don't know if.
		I went to Dolby some months ago and they.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this a spoiler alert?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's why I said you can't edit this shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We could if we can't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're not supposed to know.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		There's something in here that doesn't.
		It's showing some 3D glasses they have, but it didn't say the sound is coming out of them.
		I would imagine if Dolby's name sound is involved.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It has to be, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Dolby Cinema.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's 3D.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're 3D glasses.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
rza ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, bro.
unidentified		Listen.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I put them on, bro.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You can hear shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, did you put them on to watch a movie?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what did you put them on to watch?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I put them on, like, they had a whole demo room.
		I was looking at something.
		And it sounded like I was in the room with it, it sounded like I was in the movie theater, but I took the glasses off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, this is what it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, it's showing you everything in 3D.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You need to have the glasses, I think, to get the test.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And the sound is connected.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, that's 2021.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, this is five years old already.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Again, this might not be.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So, this is a vision, but what about this Adobe Atmos?
		Atmos is the sound.
		Plus Dolby Vision HDR.
		12.61.
		What year is that?
unidentified		Hmm.
unidentified		That's what year?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		2024.
unidentified		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's different.
		That's for your home.
		That's having your system.
		But they got some shit with it.
		It's in the glasses, bro.
unidentified		Hmm.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're in an interesting time when it comes to technology and all this.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And entertainment.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		AR, VR stuff and where it's going.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm happy about it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Are you?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting.
		I mean, I know a lot of people are freaked out about AI.
		There's a lot of that.
		A lot of people are freaked out about AI music.
		A lot of people are freaked out about AI replacing actors and their ability to generate images and video.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I. I.
		I believe AI to be a tool.
		I'm from the hip hop generation, right?
		So we're sampling a record, and therefore it's a digital replication of the record.
		It's not the record.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		And especially when we're sampling at 16 bit or 12 bit or some bit that's not even where the computer or the AI or the chip has to fill in the pieces.
		This is why you get that sound you hear from hip hop.
		So I always embraced it, the technology.
Lab Grown vs Natural Diamonds 00:09:37
rza ▲ ● ▼		I also know that it's nothing like the real thing.
		You know, I put on a, you know, even if I put on a piece of vinyl and put that needle on it and play it, because at my house I have it, I got all types of setups, right?
		But when we really want to have a good time, we just put on the fucking vinyl.
		And it sounds so much better, different, or.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's got depth to it.
unidentified		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It crackles.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It's something else.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So it's nothing like the real thing.
		But.
		In between time, in the meantime, let's enjoy.
		You know, like you said, if I could make you feel like you're in Hawaii and you don't have to leave your house, cool.
		But if you could go to Hawaii, right, right, right.
		You know what I mean?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Go to Hawaii.
		You know, I was trying to tell the AI industry or AI community that we got to change the A.
		It shouldn't be considered artificial, it's digital intelligence.
		Well, keep the A because you can't do that.
		But don't change.
		The A could be assisted, accumulated, depending on the situation.
		Find the A word that makes it describe what you're doing.
		Like, for instance, right now it's assisting him.
		Right.
		It's assisting intelligence.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Artificial sounds cheap.
unidentified		Yeah, it's all.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you don't want artificial nothing.
		If you came to your girl.
		And you propose to her with some artificial diamonds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It ain't working.
unidentified		Okay?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Girls don't even like real diamonds that are man made.
unidentified		Isn't that weird?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They have a hard time selling real diamonds that are made in a laboratory.
unidentified		I don't.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is that a real diamond?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a real diamond.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I mean, molecularly?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a real diamond.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just not created by the earth over time.
unidentified		That's not true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's created in a laboratory.
unidentified		So molecularly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if you look at it, it's a real.
		I mean, it's not like a fake Ferrari, it's a fucking diamond.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, it doesn't have to do things.
		Like, if you go to China and you buy a fake iPhone, who knows what the fuck's in there?
		Right.
		It probably won't work with Apple, won't work with the iTunes store, the Apple store.
		But a diamond is just a fucking rock.
		They can take that carbon and compress it and make an artificial diamond.
		And ladies, like, no, I don't want it.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I want a real one.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to stick with the ladies on that one.
unidentified		Weird.
rza ▲ ● ▼		The reason I'm going to stick with the ladies on it because I think the value of the diamond is the time that it took to become existence.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, diamonds are harvested in a similar way as cobalt.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, now you put it down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's why they call them blood diamonds.
unidentified		Right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so if you get a diamond from a lab, there's no blood.
		It's just a machine that's compressing carbon, and it looks beautiful.
		And I would, if I look, obviously, I'm not a chick and I don't own any diamonds.
		But if I did, I'd want the lab diamond.
		I'm like, give me that dope shit that some scientist figured out how to make.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Basically, you'll go vegan on the diamonds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because how big can they make them?
		How big can they make a lab grown diamond?
		And how do they even tell?
		Like, how do you tell whether or not a diamond's a lab diamond?
		Like, is there a way that they can test them?
		Or is it just like provenance?
		Like, you know, based on it coming from De Beers or wherever.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But if there's a way that they could test them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bless you.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Bless you.
rza ▲ ● ▼		If there's a way that they could test them, then it's just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not real diamond.
unidentified		It's not real, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		Unless there's a way, maybe they're perfect in a way that doesn't exist in the diamond world.
		I don't know.
		I'm guessing.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Completely guessing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at the size of that fucking rock.
rza ▲ ● ▼		75 carats.
		75 carats.
		The largest ever grown.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so that's a fake, not a fake diamond, a real diamond made in a lab that's 75 carats.
		How much does that bitch cost?
		42 carat diamond for $88,000.
		Is that real?
		Is that how much it costs?
		That's how much it costs?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's nothing.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Are you buying it from this website?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, brigolanceearth.com?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, just give them your credit card.
		Don't worry about it.
		That's real.
		You could tell.
		Yeah, that might not be real.
		That one might not be real.
		But let's find out what is a reputable site and how much is a reputable lab grown diamond?
unidentified		How much?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much does that cost?
		Largest faceted lab grown, $375,000.
		Do you know how much money that would cost if that was an Actual diamond from the earth, yeah, it'd probably be a hundred million dollars.
		Exactly, that's crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's that's how much would that cost?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Find out how much that would cost if it was a real diamond.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, is there even a real diamond that exists that's that big?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		But $375,000, what it weighed, the biggest one weighed 3,100 carats.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, when it was found in 1905, that's a real one, yeah.
unidentified		Whoa.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		And it was cut into smaller ones.
unidentified		Look at that.
unidentified		Holy fuck.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It took a long time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The girl's like, I went, that one.
unidentified		Give me that one.
rza ▲ ● ▼		How old?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Ask my man, Perplexity, how old is that diamond?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
		It has to be millions and millions of years old.
		Let's see.
		What does it say here?
		Does it say the age of it?
		That's nuts.
		1.18%.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Billion years old when it reached the surface.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
		Now, how are you going to replicate that?
		You can if you think so.
unidentified		With a machine.
		You said with a machine.
		Yeah, it's better.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, like, if you buy a lab grown diamond versus a diamond that came from the earth, how can they tell the difference?
		Find that out.
		Can you discern?
		Put this into perplexity.
		How do you discern between a lab grown diamond and a diamond that came from the earth?
		Whether or not, how do you discern?
		Make a girl smell it to get up on a tub like.
unidentified		I don't smell blood.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, men can't tell, but women can.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Their hair on the back of their neck sticks out.
		I don't like it.
		Seems fake.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It says you can't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
unidentified		It says you can't?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's specialized scanners, which almost means.
unidentified		Hold on.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Let me read that to the audience.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Visual appearance is the same.
		Lab grown and natural diamonds have the same sparkle, hardness, and basic optical properties, so they look identical in jewelry.
		Naked eye tests don't work.
		Standard home tricks, fog tests, scratch tests, only distinguish diamond from non diamond, not lab versus natural.
		Standard diamond testers don't help.
		Thermal electric testers will say diamond for both lab grown and natural stones because their physical properties are essentially the same.
		In other words, you cannot reliably discern the origin on your own just by looking at it or using a simple tester.
		A jeweler, how do they do it?
		Let's see, what does this say here?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Literally, it seems like they write the word lab grown that you can see under a microscope or something.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Amazing inscription on a mini lab when diamonds are inscribed.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Why would you inscribe it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because you're an asshole.
unidentified		Okay.
		I don't know.
		Okay, inclusions of growth features.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		If you make better, if you're like the best at it, if you're the Rolex of making lab grown diamonds so people can't copy yours, maybe.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no.
		Here goes something that's interesting.
		It says lab grown HP, HT, and CVD diamonds can show characteristic of metallic inclusions and geometric patterns or growth striations that differ from most natural diamonds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But this is subtle and not always present.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But there's a chance to dance, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, as a chance, natural diamonds tend to have more irregular geologic looking inclusions.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fluorescence patterns under UV, differences in how the stone fluoresces under short wave and long wave UV light can hint at lab grown versus natural, but interpretation requires training and comparison.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those are hints.
unidentified		That's interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it says hints not guarantees, and many stones look ambiguous without proper instruments.
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So she got to be a.
		She got to complain.
		At the end of the day, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's got to bring it to a university.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Test this.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because she has to be dissatisfied.
rza ▲ ● ▼		She really has to complain.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it interesting, though, that it's the same thing, but some women want it to be from the earth and not from a lab, even though it's the same thing?
		It's like if they could make you a banana and it tasted like a banana, it had all the vitamins of a banana, it looked like a banana, but it wasn't grown on a banana tree.
		It just came out of a banana lab.
		Would you be upset if somebody gave you the fake banana if it's exactly the same?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
unidentified		Weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, bananas aren't, there's no status attached to a banana.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just a food that we eat.
Super Clone Rolex Watches 00:11:04
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		What about GMO?
		Aren't we anti GMO?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but is it genetically modified if it's just a replica of a banana?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, banana is probably a bad thing because you're putting it in your body.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if it's something that is a complete, like, you know, here's a good one.
unidentified		Okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Fofur.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Versus a real fur.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Why would you complain if I came home with a full mink?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because some women want the actual animal to die so they can wear it.
		I want something to suffer in the snow and a trap around its neck.
		I don't know.
		It's weird.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What movie was that?
rza ▲ ● ▼		The Revenant, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That was a good one.
unidentified		That was crazy.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Roddy Leonardo.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It was good because it also let us understand.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I love the idea that there was a business, sadly, and motherfuckers going looking for animals to kill to bring back and make a jacket.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, still is.
unidentified		Still is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Still is.
		You know, there's a company in China that makes Rolexes exact to a real Rolex, but it's not a real Rolex.
		Because of 3D printing now, they can scan every individual part that a Rolex.
		So they buy a Rolex and then recreate exactly to the same type of steel that they use, the same quartz for the whatever the.
rza ▲ ● ▼		The face, the bend.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the term I'm looking for?
		The lens?
		It's not the lens.
		What is it called?
unidentified		Bezel?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The glass part that's in the front.
unidentified		God, how can I remember that?
		Is it called the face?
		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I forget what it's called.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's one of those brain farts where my brain is just not remembering what it means.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		The watch crystal is all it's saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The crystal.
		That's it.
		Just the crystal.
unidentified		Jesus.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But they take it and they recreate everything with the exact same materials, but it's like $500.
		As opposed to.
		11,000.
		But it is exact.
		Like, you bring it to a watch person, and it'll take them hours to figure out whether or not this is an actual Rolex or not.
		They have to use microscopes.
		They have to get up in there and look at the finish and the way the hands are made.
unidentified		So, would you?
unidentified		So, would you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're getting better and better and better at it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Would you wear it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would wear it.
		I mean, I wouldn't because I have a real one.
		But if I didn't have a real one, I would wear it.
		But that's see, now, you know, as a fake one, Usyk, the heavyweight champion of the world, Alexander Usyk, he wears a fake Rolex.
		It's hilarious.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		That's my big question.
		Like, we were just talking about the AI or talking about whatever it is.
		I think anything is good until the real thing shows up.
		I think when the real thing shows up, it's going to be real.
		And there's something about the real thing, whatever that is, whatever that thing is, that's just like, it ain't going to never not be real.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's something about a real Rolex.
		It comes from the company Rolex.
		It's been making watches for 100 years.
		And it's.
		Figured out the technology.
		They figured out how to, you know, because these, like a Rolex is an automatic watch.
		So it's got, it's moving on, like this is an Omega and this watch is automatic too.
		So this is moving on, it's working on my movement.
		So my movement winds it.
		So every time I move my arm, it winds it up in the second hand.
		And it's incredibly precise, accurate within like a couple seconds a day.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And somebody had to figure that out.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they figured it out a long fucking time ago.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These guys figured out how to make, The perfect amount of spring tension and these little tiny gears that move around in there.
rza ▲ ● ▼		And how long does it last?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How long will it stay charged for?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like, I don't have too much.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I do got a couple of Rolexes, but I don't know, as you see, I don't watch them.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they'll last for decades and decades.
		I mean, you could buy, there's a place called Bob's Watches online.
		You could buy like a 1967 Rolex, and it still works perfectly.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, they last forever.
		And sometimes they need service, and all that means is like they need to clean them out, and maybe they replace a spring or some shit.
		But then it's back to work.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I've seen one in, well, for the ones that's making it in China, you know what I mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's, you know, and the guys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They call them super clones.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the super cloners, and you can't afford a real one and you want to be cool with a favorite.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Baller on a budget.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Baller on a budget.
		We're not knocking that.
		But I saw one that my wife wanted.
		She didn't get it.
		I told her to get it, but she thought she'd get it somewhere else.
		In Brussels, right?
		They had.
		Have you ever seen an orange Rolex?
unidentified		No.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, bro.
		They had it on display for sale.
		And she never seen it either.
		I'm not into watches, but she's kind of getting there into it.
		And we were kind of moving fast and shit, and she was like.
		You know, she saw it and she wanted it.
		I said, Well, go ahead and get it.
		I'll wait.
		She said, No, I'll get it somewhere else.
		You can't get it nowhere else.
		You only could get it from that one location in Brussels.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so Rolex makes it specifically just for them?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's some companies that customize watches that you could buy where they take a regular Rolex and they customize it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And the problem with that is, even though it's expensive, it's not worth as much to some people because they've altered it.
unidentified		Right.
rza ▲ ● ▼		This is not altered, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it comes only from Rolex.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Only from Rolex.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they only sell it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They only sell it there.
		Oh, wow.
		You know what I mean?
		See if you can find that one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People love exclusivity.
		Hall of Time in Brussels.
		Rolex Explorer 2, the primary model featuring a single bright orange 24 hour hand.
		Often found at authorized dealers like Hall of Time in Brussels.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So I got to take her all the way back to Brussels to get it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's so pretty, though.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know which one it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I bet you could buy it online.
		Can you buy it online?
		You probably have to pay a premium.
		Look at that, $11,000.
		You can buy it online.
		$210,000?
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a little like me right there.
unidentified		Of course.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		$210,000.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I won't be going back to blesses.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just crazy how much cheaper those super clones are that look exactly the same.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I bet you after this podcast, a super clone is going to say, he's going to make those now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See if you can find one of those super clone sites from China.
		Because what they're doing is just taking advantage of the fact that everybody wants these status symbols.
		And that's what a lot of it is.
		You know, it's like, so here it is.
		What is this company called?
		SuperLuxuryReps.com.
		Let's go with the, scroll up a little bit, please.
		Right there, the Daytona.
		That's the classic.
		Black dial Daytona.
		That's a, ooh, look at that blue one right there to the right.
		The one, yeah, look at that motherfucker.
		Click on that.
		$1,600.
		Yeah.
		Boy, that would be so much more money.
		Look how pretty that is.
		That looks perfect.
		So, no one would ever know.
		So, for $1,600, no one is ever going to fucking know.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		There's a pretty good chance that's a picture of a real one, too.
unidentified		Good point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Damn, Jamie's thinking levels ahead.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
unidentified		I like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They might be fucking with that.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when you get it home, it ain't like it was in the picture.
rza ▲ ● ▼		The Whopper is not the size it is on the commercial.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That looks good, though.
unidentified		That's a sticker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so luxury, super luxury reps.
		Let's put this into a search.
		Super Luxury Reps reviews.
		See, how good are the watches from Super Luxury Reps?
unidentified		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look at that.
		Super Clone Date Just 36mm floral dial.
		Thousand bucks.
unidentified		Trustpilot.
		It's all good.
		It's fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Trustpilot.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's a good guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They just stuck that on there.
unidentified		They stuck that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on, this is in China.
		WhatsApp us.
		Yeah, this is in China.
		Video proof.
		Okay.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Show me video proof on every website.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Show me video proof.
		Oh, how about?
		Okay.
		Go to Richard Millet because those watches are like a million bucks.
		Oh, video proof.
		Show me the video proof.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Who's opening it on a vertical screen?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so they're getting very close to it.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I guess maybe they're trying to show the microscope.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you're seeing all the action and all the movement.
		So, Richard Millet watch, click on those, please, because that's like a million dollar watch.
		Those watches are insanely expensive.
unidentified		Not from here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much do they cost?
		$1,600 or so.
		$1,400.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, $1,400 or.
rza ▲ ● ▼		A million.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Half a million.
unidentified		Right.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Learn where to shop.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You know what I just learned from watching that thing, though?
unidentified		What?
rza ▲ ● ▼		The other one you had with the moving gears.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It reminded me of the quantum computer.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		My brain is bugged out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those things are weird.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But I saw the science of a quantum computer there.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So all that stuff moving?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because it takes all those gears.
unidentified		It takes that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the quantum computers are so crazy because all that shit is all cooling.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And the actual computer is like the size of a, like, A triscuit, right?
rza ▲ ● ▼		It kind of you think about the human heart, right?
		It's doing a lot of fucking work.
		Oh, yeah, you know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's doing, and it's you know, it's not really a pump.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's what they're saying now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like a cycle, it's like a vortex, a vortex.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's I used to think it was a pump, but it makes sense, right?
		The quantum computer, the brain, all these things is more, it's almost like our biology is teaching, it's science is now catching up to the science of our biology.
		And now, find a way to mechanically immolate our biology.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, what SuperLuxuryReps.com is?
		They sell, Perplexity says they sell super clone luxury watches, emphasizing that their pieces mirror the design, weight, and performance of genuine models.
		They present themselves as a premium alternative to cheap replicas, focusing on workmanship, durability.
		We just did an ad for these people.
		We basically just gave them an ad.
		I guarantee you, some fakers are going to go there.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You're not.
		Thinking you're buying the real thing here and you shouldn't.
		That's just the note.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But the thing is, it mirrors the performance.
		It looks exactly the same.
		That's my point.
		It's like, why does a Rolex cost that much money then?
		If they can make it for $1,400, why is it like, how much does a Daytona cost if you bought it retail?
		Like, what is a Rolex?
		Let's take a guess.
		I got to imagine it's $15,000.
Alamo Draft Cinema History 00:04:24
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I got to imagine it's at least 10 times more.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is a Rolex Daytona cost?
rza ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying that the material is all the same.
rza ▲ ● ▼		But they're stealing the idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they're stealing everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're stealing the design, the idea.
rza ▲ ● ▼		So when you're paying $15,000, you're paying for the idea, the design, and everything, not just the material.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So $30,000.
		So it's more than $10.
		Look at that.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that black one, the black faced one, is exactly like the one that they had there.
		White.
		That's pretty.
		But you could sell that though.
		The thing is, that comes with paperwork, and you could sell it probably for even more than 30 afterwards.
		That's the difference.
rza ▲ ● ▼		That's the difference, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		It can appreciate and not depreciate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it has serial numbers and paperwork and all that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's an actual investment.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I want to take a moment to once again, this is the Rizza on the Joe Rogan Experience.
unidentified		Can I do this?
		Yes, please.
		Okay, thanks.
rza ▲ ● ▼		This is the Rizza on the Joe Rogan Experience.
		I have a new film coming out May 1st in theaters.
		It's called One Spoon of Chocolate.
		Quentin Tarantino presents The Rizzas, One Spoon of Chocolate in Theaters Everywhere, May 1st.
		It follows the story of an ex military convict trying to find a better way in life.
		Ends up in a small town, and shit goes bananas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Chaos ensues.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dun dun dun.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Action pack.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Bone shattering.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And available in streaming in maybe a month or so.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe a month or so.
		Maybe 45 days.
		Go see it in the movie theaters.
		And you know what?
		Go to the theaters, yo.
		You know how come?
		Because tell me if you agree with this.
		I don't care where you get popcorn from anywhere else.
		I like Disneyland.
		I like the amusement parks.
		But no popcorn touches movie theater popcorn.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They know what they're doing.
rza ▲ ● ▼		They got something going on there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But whatever that butter is, what is that shit?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That stuff, when you go to the machine, you press the button.
unidentified		Oh, I don't know what that is.
unidentified		What's in there?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I think it's vegan.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It can't be good for you.
unidentified		It can't be good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It can't be good for you.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, at the Alamo Draft House, they use real butter?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they use real butter.
unidentified		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Alamo Draft House.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You ever been to Sinopolis?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sinopolis is awesome.
unidentified		That's his joint.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they have everything there.
unidentified		Is that a date night?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		Beautiful seats, like laying back.
		They have waiters and waitresses.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Do you and the wife like going to see movies?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
rza ▲ ● ▼		What's your favorite theater?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love Sinopolis.
unidentified		That's my favorite.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's my favorite.
		Yeah, that's the place.
		Because the seats are the best, they recline, they're perfect.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the spaces.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They know what they're doing.
		Plus, it costs a little bit more to go there, so no one's on their phone making noises.
		People aren't talking.
		You know what I mean?
rza ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		And the crazy thing I will say, though, Sinopolis is my favorite theater as well for a date night with my wife.
		But I strongly believe, that's from my experience, that it was the Alamo Draft House that pioneered that whole concept of food.
		Yeah, bro.
		I remember coming out here, I don't know, it might have been 2004 or something.
		Like, it was this one Alamo draft house, I think.
		Guys had it on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On 6th Street.
rza ▲ ● ▼		On 6th Street is that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's my building now.
unidentified		That's your building now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the mothership, yeah.
		I bought that place.
		That's the Ritz.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Bro, that's my school, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the Ritz.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying, that's why I used to come out to the QT.
		I mean, that's my film college.
		Yeah.
		I've seen so many movies there.
		I'm talking about six movies in one day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tarantino Screen deathproof there.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		They had so many movies out of that place.
		That place was everything, man.
		It used to be a rock and roll club.
		It was, at one point in time, a pool hall.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's been a bunch of different things.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Well, you own my college now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's a dope spot, too.
		It's a perfect place.
		And we still have the original marquee because it's all the historical side.
unidentified		Right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it's a building from 1927.
rza ▲ ● ▼		You got fried pickles in there?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We don't sell food.
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No food.
rza ▲ ● ▼		No food.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No comedy club.
		There's food next door.
		There's a pizza joint on one side, a Mexican joint on the other side.
		I'm just playing.
unidentified		Food.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to be eating while you're laughing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We have one thing we sell jokes.
unidentified		Nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jokes and drinks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
rza ▲ ● ▼		I got to pop in and who's your next guest?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we always, I mean, I do shows there every Tuesday and Wednesday, and every weekend we have national headliners that are there.
The Original Rock and Roll Club 00:01:05
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know who's there this weekend.
		Who's there this weekend, Jenny?
		But it's set up with two rooms just like the Alamo was.
		There were two theaters there.
		So, we have two rooms.
		We have a small room that seats like 110 people.
unidentified		Nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then the big room, it's like 250 people.
unidentified		Nice, nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's set up perfect.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We had it all like the ceilings lowered and everything tightened up and set up.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Mothership.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Comedy mothership.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Rich Voss.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Rich Voss.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My boy.
		My boy, Rich.
		He's awesome.
		The Rizza.
		I'm glad we did it this time without Donnell.
		Sorry, Donnell.
		I love you to death, but it was better without you.
unidentified		Better without you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, Indian gave you.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got something coming to you, kid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A spoonful of chocolate out everywhere.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Everywhere, May 1st.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		May 1st.
		All movie theaters.
		See it in the movie theater first.
		That's definitely where you want to see it.
		You want to have that experience with a bunch of other people.
		And thank you, brother.
		It was always good to see you.
		And Wu Tang forever.
rza ▲ ● ▼		Wu Tang forever.
		Rock and roll Hall of Fame.
		Bong Bong, here we come.
unidentified		Here we go.
unidentified		All right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bye, everybody.

Chapters

00:00:01 Cold Showers and Tai Chi
00:12:48 Martial Arts for the Mind
00:28:38 Unique: A Homage to ODB
00:30:46 The Dark Side of Oncology
00:41:24 Mining Rubber in Congo
00:49:57 Cobalt-Free Battery Quests
01:00:22 The Low Value of Human Life
01:04:03 Green Room Rap Themes
01:18:14 Snoop Dogg's Weed Stories
01:34:35 Chickens Stealing Mice
01:39:02 San Diego Mexican Burritos
01:45:56 Driving Tesla Escalades
01:52:22 Counting Square Inches on Earth
02:02:15 Six Sextillion Zeros
02:18:05 Immersive Dolby Atmos Gaming
02:25:32 Lab Grown vs Natural Diamonds
02:35:09 Super Clone Rolex Watches
02:46:14 Alamo Draft Cinema History
02:50:38 The Original Rock and Roll Club