The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck
Aired: 2026-04-10
Duration: 03:02:39


=== Tommy Kid Rock Conditioning (14:33) ===

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[00:00:12]  Hello, boys.
[00:00:13]  My man!
[00:00:14]  What's up, bro?
[00:00:14]  We're back in action.
[00:00:16]  We're back.
[00:00:18]  We're back.
[00:00:20]  We were just talking, and I saw Rollo calls to get off.
[00:00:23]  I told Rollo, save this for the air.
[00:00:25]  Because Rollo, years ago, shit, this had to be like at least 10 years ago.
[00:00:30]  20 years ago.
[00:00:30]  That was like 2006, 2007.
[00:00:32]  That's crazy.
[00:00:33]  So 20 years ago, Rollo calls me up and he says, Tommy Lee wants to meet you.
[00:00:36]  He wants to talk to you about something.
[00:00:38]  I go, okay, sure.
[00:00:39]  So we go to see his concert.
[00:00:40]  That was when he was at Rock and Roll Supernova, the TV show.
[00:00:43]  That was a TV show.
[00:00:43]  That's right.
[00:00:44]  So he had a TV show.
[00:00:45]  It was in Long Beach.
[00:00:46]  Right, right.
[00:00:46]  It was the show.
[00:00:47]  You and Eddie came.
[00:00:48]  Me and Eddie Bravo came.
[00:00:49]  And then afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room.
[00:00:54]  Like, he sets his green room up like a fucking after-hours party.
[00:00:57]  He's got, like, tapestries on the wall and candles and lights.
[00:01:01]  Yeah, you walk in, like, damn.
[00:01:03]  Like, DJ gear.
[00:01:04]  Yeah, he doesn't just walk into a cold green room.
[00:01:07]  Like, I'm lazy.
[00:01:08]  He's got it.
[00:01:08]  Yeah.
[00:01:09]  If I go on the road, I just go, what's your green room?
[00:01:11]  I'll go hang out in there.
[00:01:12]  It's like, it doesn't just walk.
[00:01:13]  But he has it set up.
[00:01:14]  Like, everywhere is like calm and relaxing and spiritual.
[00:01:18]  And so I meet Tommy, and Tommy wants to fight kid rock in the UFC.
[00:01:25]  This.
[00:01:25]  What?
[00:01:26]  What?
[00:01:26]  What makes people think they can do this?
[00:01:28]  It's for Pam Anderson's heart.
[00:01:29]  Yeah.
[00:01:30]  Well, wait, this is how it started.
[00:01:31]  This is kind of how it started that was that way with Pam.
[00:01:35]  Yeah.
[00:01:35]  Like, you know, they both were married to her.
[00:01:37]  So.
[00:01:40]  Tommy and her are always going to be connected because of the kids.
[00:01:43]  So she had split up with Kid Rock, and Kid Rock was emailing her, texting her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her.
[00:01:50]  Tommy is with her, not together, but, you know, they were together that day.
[00:01:55]  And she asks him, you know, you're friends with him.
[00:01:59]  Can you call him and tell him to stop calling me and shit?
[00:02:02]  And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in the middle of that shit.
[00:02:05]  Oh, boy.
[00:02:06]  And she's like, you know, please.
[00:02:08]  So he winds up hitting, you know, You know, him up and like, look, dude, you know, I don't really want to make this call, blah, blah, blah.
[00:02:14]  Of course, Kid Rock took the heat, fuck you, you know, blah, blah.
[00:02:17]  So they're fucking each other back and forth, goes away.
[00:02:22]  Now, there was some MTV Awards thing.
[00:02:27]  And actually, let me back up first.
[00:02:29]  We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing, and there was this rumor that Kid Rock was supposed to come with his bodyguard and come to Tommy's room and attack us.
[00:02:40]  So, me, my man Kemo, who you know as well, we're sleeping in Tommy's room hoping they show up.
[00:02:46]  And.
[00:02:48]  Of course, they go to a different room.
[00:02:50]  They do go to a room, kick a door in, I think totally.
[00:02:54]  So they actually went looking for him?
[00:02:55]  For real?
[00:02:56]  I don't think they went looking for him.
[00:02:57]  I think it was a big publicity fucking scene.
[00:03:00]  They sign some autographs and they keep it moving.
[00:03:02]  So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, yo, dude, I go, fuck him.
[00:03:08]  I go, you should fight him on pay per view.
[00:03:10]  Imagine all the money that we make.
[00:03:12]  I go, I'll fight his fucking security guy.
[00:03:14]  Like, we'll fucking make a whole thing of it.
[00:03:16]  And he goes, man, that's brilliant.
[00:03:18]  Oh, my God.
[00:03:18]  So I go, I go, You know, I'm telling you, I said, you should do.
[00:03:22]  I said, look, either you fight him and you beat him up, or he punks out and you win either way.
[00:03:29]  And he's like, he's like, yeah, yeah, I like this.
[00:03:32]  So he talks to his management.
[00:03:33]  Of course, it just goes by the wayside.
[00:03:35]  Well, they're having some MTV Awards shit.
[00:03:39]  Security's not allowed on the floor there.
[00:03:41]  They had their own, like, you know, it was in a casino to have security for it.
[00:03:46]  While he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rockley comes up.
[00:03:50]  Kind of behind him and pokes him, and Tommy sees him and he goes to stand up.
[00:03:54]  Kid Rock suckers him there.
[00:03:56]  He hit him.
[00:03:56]  Yeah.
[00:03:57]  What?
[00:03:57]  And I'm home.
[00:03:58]  My phone is getting blown the fuck up.
[00:04:00]  Like, what happened with Tommy?
[00:04:01]  What happened with Tommy?
[00:04:02]  I'm like, I don't fucking know.
[00:04:03]  Like, I'm not with him right now.
[00:04:05]  And I get a call.
[00:04:07]  I swear, like 30 minutes later, and it's Tommy.
[00:04:10]  And he's going, fuck him.
[00:04:12]  He goes, I'm done with that motherfucker.
[00:04:14]  I want to fight him.
[00:04:14]  I'm going to fucking fight him now.
[00:04:16]  I go, he goes, I want you to train me.
[00:04:18]  I go, he goes, I'm going to move you out.
[00:04:20]  I go, no.
[00:04:21]  You're moving to me.
[00:04:22]  I go, we're not going to be out here with all your little fucking ass kissers.
[00:04:27]  I said, if you're going to do it, you're really going to do it.
[00:04:29]  Was he working out at all at the time?
[00:04:30]  No.
[00:04:31]  So, you know, the only working out he does is on the drums, which he does murder.
[00:04:36]  That is a little bit of arm conditioning.
[00:04:38]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:04:38]  That's like a little punchy ass.
[00:04:40]  Definitely.
[00:04:40]  And I can show you a picture of him with a choke on me, and it's legit.
[00:04:44]  Like, he did train with Horian, and I told you guys he trained some with Billy Blank.
[00:04:51]  So, I've talked about this on the He's for real, right?
[00:04:55]  He was a bad motherfucker.
[00:04:57]  He was one of those like Raymond Daniels type karate point fighting characters.
[00:05:01]  Yeah, he's a Tybo guy.
[00:05:03]  He's a Tybo guy, but we'll get to that.
[00:05:05]  All right, yeah, so I bring him in, and I told him, I said, Look, when we're going to Long Beach, I said, I know Rogan.
[00:05:15]  I can have him come in, and you can tell him your idea.
[00:05:18]  And he goes, All right, all right.
[00:05:19]  So I bring Joe and Eddie.
[00:05:21]  They meet him.
[00:05:21]  He tells Joe he wants to fight him, literally, and Tommy said his sanctuary was his management company at the time.
[00:05:30]  I don't know if he still is or not.
[00:05:32]  So they call Kid Rock's people, supposedly, and offer this fucking fight on pay per view.
[00:05:39]  And Kid Rock's people wound up calling back and basically turning it down, saying whoever loses is ruined for life, I guess, because looking like a bitch, because they both had the rock and roll, tough guy, you know, image thing.
[00:05:56]  So that's literally how it.
[00:05:58]  How it stopped was that in print?
[00:06:00]  What's whoever loses this is ruined, or was that?
[00:06:03]  No, no, no, that was that was supposedly the response from Kid Rock's management to Tommy's management.
[00:06:10]  That is correct, he would be correct, you know.
[00:06:12]  Yeah, but even if it's a good fight, like a Stefan Bonner and Boris.
[00:06:17]  Oh my god, well, that would be different.
[00:06:19]  Then they both be revolutionary.
[00:06:21]  I kind of forget who won that fight.
[00:06:23]  Stefan Bonner, Forrest Griffin.
[00:06:25]  Yeah, Forrest won that game.
[00:06:26]  I know Forrest won it, but I kind of forget because the fight was.
[00:06:28]  It was so good.
[00:06:29]  It wasn't a bad fight.
[00:06:30]  That was one of the most toss up fights of all time.
[00:06:32]  Yeah.
[00:06:32]  Like, who fucking knows what happened?
[00:06:34]  And Dana did the right thing.
[00:06:35]  He contracted both of them.
[00:06:36]  It was amazing.
[00:06:36]  We actually talked about it in the Octagon right before he did it.
[00:06:39]  Wow.
[00:06:39]  Did you really?
[00:06:40]  Yeah.
[00:06:40]  He should give both these motherfuckers a bonus.
[00:06:43]  He's like, we're going to do that.
[00:06:44]  I'm like, fuck yeah.
[00:06:45]  It was amazing.
[00:06:46]  Do you think if it wasn't for the Ultimate Fighter, it would have died out?
[00:06:50]  Who knows, man?
[00:06:51]  But it was like lightning in a bottle because there was another good fight before that.
[00:06:55]  Diego Sanchez.
[00:06:56]  Fuck Kenny Florian up, man.
[00:06:58]  That was a one way beating.
[00:07:00]  But that was Diego Sanchez coming up.
[00:07:03]  People got to see Diego fight too many fights.
[00:07:05]  They got to see the later fights.
[00:07:07]  They forgot what a monster Diego was in his prime.
[00:07:10]  He was a cardio animal.
[00:07:12]  The question is grappling.
[00:07:13]  I mean, Marcelo got him, but he hung with one of the best of all time.
[00:07:17]  Justin ADCC.
[00:07:19]  Diego was a fucking.
[00:07:21]  I don't know.
[00:07:22]  Listen, man.
[00:07:23]  You can only get hit so many times.
[00:07:25]  Agreed.
[00:07:25]  And he was at halfway gone before.
[00:07:28]  Take well, he was always like this open minded, weird thinker.
[00:07:31]  Remember, he had that guy that was training him that you had a little bit of a disagreement with.
[00:07:35]  What about that loser, Joshua Fabia?
[00:07:38]  Yeah, don't mention his name.
[00:07:42]  Yeah, well, he had Diego hanging upside down, punching him in his face.
[00:07:46]  Yeah, well, the video's insane.
[00:07:49]  The video's insane, but Diego was like super, super open minded.
[00:07:53]  Like, he was willing to believe in magic.
[00:07:56]  He was, you know what I'm saying, like, he believed in himself so much.
[00:07:59]  That Diego was like, and he was also like doing weird stuff.
[00:08:02]  Like, he would chew meat and spit it out.
[00:08:05]  He would just chew it down, like, get all the juices from it, and then spit whatever's left out.
[00:08:10]  You wouldn't swallow the meat.
[00:08:11]  But he was fun to watch.
[00:08:12]  He didn't come out and he was fucking an animal.
[00:08:16]  He was a fucking animal.
[00:08:18]  Steve Maxwell trained him for the fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane shape.
[00:08:24]  But unfortunately, that was the fight where BJ started.
[00:08:27]  That was when BJ was training with the Marinoviches.
[00:08:29]  He was leaping out of pools.
[00:08:31]  BJ was unstoppable.
[00:08:32]  Yeah.
[00:08:33]  There was a time where I would say, watch BJ in his prime.
[00:08:36]  I'll put that dude up against anybody.
[00:08:38]  BJ in his prime.
[00:08:39]  There's no doubt.
[00:08:40]  I always say he's the best 55 of all time.
[00:08:42]  He was a human winner.
[00:08:43]  In that window, right?
[00:08:44]  In that window, when he beat Matt Hughes.
[00:08:46]  Yeah, he was a human winner.
[00:08:49]  Yeah.
[00:08:50]  But you did a lot better with him than I did.
[00:08:52]  I didn't want to bring that up.
[00:08:53]  I thought you did.
[00:08:54]  I thought you had a League of Mat World Championship caliber jujitsu.
[00:08:58]  Yeah.
[00:08:59]  You know what I mean?
[00:08:59]  And a guy like him relies on jujitsu a lot.
[00:09:03]  You know, but BJ was just.
[00:09:06]  I was.
[00:09:06]  There's two fights.
[00:09:07]  The Kenny Ford.
[00:09:08]  I'm sorry.
[00:09:09]  Sean Shirk flight.
[00:09:10]  The Sean Shirk fight was prime BJ.
[00:09:13]  Yeah.
[00:09:13]  Prime BJ.
[00:09:14]  And then Diego Caracas.
[00:09:15]  What about Joe Stevens?
[00:09:17]  That's another one, too.
[00:09:18]  Yeah.
[00:09:18]  But Diego was like more highly ranked than Joe.
[00:09:21]  Yeah.
[00:09:21]  Yeah.
[00:09:22]  Wrecked Cal Uno.
[00:09:23]  Well, I mean, he was a beast.
[00:09:24]  Look what he did to Matt Hughes when he took the title.
[00:09:26]  Yeah.
[00:09:26]  He was a beast.
[00:09:27]  Matt Hughes was just like, you're coming up to my way class?
[00:09:29]  Right.
[00:09:30]  Yeah.
[00:09:30]  That type of thing.
[00:09:32]  He was a Wolverine.
[00:09:33]  Yeah.
[00:09:33]  The dude who would fight people at 200.
[00:09:35]  Fuck.
[00:09:35]  Leoto Machita, 200 pounds.
[00:09:37]  That's crazy.
[00:09:38]  He was a woman.
[00:09:39]  He's a good guy about that.
[00:09:40]  Fucking animal.
[00:09:41]  And did real good.
[00:09:42]  Scary on the feet.
[00:09:44]  A natural 55er who fought as low as 45.
[00:09:47]  Remember?
[00:09:47]  He went down to 45 for a while.
[00:09:50]  Bro, BJ was a monster in his prime.
[00:09:52]  He was well rounded, too, before guys were super well rounded.
[00:09:56]  Like, he threw hands well.
[00:09:58]  If he just had the will to go through those Marinovich camps every fight, he would have been unstoppable.
[00:10:05]  BJ would, you know, he would just lose his focus a little bit.
[00:10:08]  I watched a YouTube documentary about, like, the rise and trajectory and then the later years.
[00:10:13]  It was really well done.
[00:10:14]  But it was all just talking about how there's this prime BJ, and that's when he was training with the Marinoviches and.
[00:10:21]  Incredible conditioning, and he could just go fight and not worry about his conditioning.
[00:10:25]  Do you think he it wasn't laziness, right?
[00:10:28]  What do you think it was?
[00:10:29]  A lot of friends, a lot of parties, the king of Hawaii, for sure.
[00:10:34]  PG Ben was the king everywhere he would go.
[00:10:37]  People were like, It's PG.
[00:10:38]  I mean, he was the king in Vegas, man.
[00:10:41]  In those prime years when he was the champ, he was a huge star, so I'm sure he's a huge star in Hilo.
[00:10:46]  He's probably hanging out with the boys all the time, having a good time.
[00:10:49]  Plus, his family like had influence there, right?
[00:10:51]  They had like money, he didn't come from poverty, but it's just like.
[00:10:55]  That it just was real hard to maintain those kind of camps.
[00:10:59]  Those camps are insane.
[00:11:00]  He was also super, super talented.
[00:11:02]  And so it's like he didn't have to work as hard to still beat up people, like in practice.
[00:11:07]  It definitely came easy.
[00:11:09]  His flexibility and leg dexterity.
[00:11:10]  Oh my goodness.
[00:11:12]  I remember when I fought him and we were doing a rules meeting.
[00:11:14]  This is the time where we could ask questions.
[00:11:16]  Like they did everybody in a rules meeting.
[00:11:18]  And I'm in the rules meeting and Frank Shamrock was in his corner.
[00:11:22]  And Frank's like, Are we allowed for in guard, kick him in the head?
[00:11:27]  I'm like, what the hell?
[00:11:28]  Like, he was talking about his flexibility just wrapping around the back of my head and kicking me in the head from there.
[00:11:34]  And I was like, what the hell is this guy insane?
[00:11:37]  Right.
[00:11:37]  I was like, how the hell is he going to be able to kick me in the head from there?
[00:11:40]  But apparently, BJ had that flexibility to be able to do that.
[00:11:45]  He could do double Lotus without using his hands.
[00:11:48]  That's crazy.
[00:11:49]  Like, sit back and just fucking completely cross, but Lotus.
[00:11:53]  Yeah.
[00:11:53]  Like, interlocked with no hands.
[00:11:56]  That's insane.
[00:11:56]  It's nuts.
[00:11:57]  Yeah.
[00:11:58]  His flexibility is bananas.
[00:11:59]  And he worked on it.
[00:12:00]  It wasn't just like a natural gift, but how smart was he to figure out if you could use your legs like you could use your arms?
[00:12:06]  They're so much fucking stronger.
[00:12:08]  Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:10]  There he is.
[00:12:11]  That's nuts, man.
[00:12:12]  I'm saying.
[00:12:13]  He could put his own fucking leg behind his head with no hands.
[00:12:17]  That's crazy flexibility.
[00:12:21]  I'd say he was going to kick you while you were north south.
[00:12:24]  Yeah, he's going to do that.
[00:12:26]  That is nuts.
[00:12:27]  But is that legal?
[00:12:28]  No.
[00:12:29]  There's a lot of goofy rules, right?
[00:12:31]  Like that's.
[00:12:32]  I don't think it would be cool to stomp people in the head and soccer kick them, but at least knees to the head should be okay.
[00:12:40]  I agree with that.
[00:12:41]  For sure.
[00:12:41]  Because if you're shooting on a single and you're holding onto it and your head's right there, that's a stupid place to be in real life.
[00:12:48]  Right?
[00:12:49]  Let's just real life, a real fight.
[00:12:51]  Why wouldn't the guy knee you in the head?
[00:12:52]  You're grabbing his knee.
[00:12:54]  You're all in right here.
[00:12:56]  All he has to do is knee you in the face, and he can't do it because you're on your knees.
[00:13:00]  And let's be fair a knee when somebody's on their feet is worse than that.
[00:13:05]  Yes.
[00:13:05]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:13:06]  There's way more behind it.
[00:13:07]  Yeah, that's not as bad.
[00:13:08]  If you're on the floor and I knee you in the head, that's still not as bad as if me just kneeing you right in the face.
[00:13:14]  Yes.
[00:13:15]  Yeah.
[00:13:15]  Especially if you're the Michael Venom Page fight.
[00:13:19]  The cyborg.
[00:13:20]  Oh, Jesus Christ.
[00:13:23]  If you ever want to know what's the most destructive strike in MMA, the most amount of power you can generate has got to be a knee.
[00:13:30]  A flying knee.
[00:13:32]  When a guy's shooting in on you.
[00:13:33]  The only thing I'm not a fan of is the.
[00:13:36]  The jab, fuck the kick to the knee.
[00:13:38]  I agree.
[00:13:39]  I'm not a fan of it.
[00:13:40]  I'm not a fan of it.
[00:13:41]  Like, yeah, like, you know, you saw what happens if you hit it right when Khalil did it.
[00:13:46]  Tedious, modestest, yeah, modest.
[00:13:48]  You know, my opinion there is it's just something that if you hit it right, it's an injury's coming and not a good one.
[00:13:55]  You can't tap.
[00:13:56]  It's not like a knee bar or something.
[00:13:58]  So I kind of think if you can't kick a guy in the side of the knee for that reason, why should you be able to fucking kick him?
[00:14:04]  If you can kick in the knees, you should be able to kick in the nuts.
[00:14:07]  I'm going to be real.
[00:14:09]  I need, like, what are we doing here?
[00:14:11]  What are we doing here?
[00:14:12]  We're pretending.
[00:14:12]  Like, wear a cup and I can kick you in the nuts.
[00:14:14]  Right.
[00:14:15]  There's some good cups out there.
[00:14:16]  I'll just get a steel one.
[00:14:17]  It's crazy.
[00:14:18]  Like, why do we have weird rules like that?
[00:14:20]  Yeah, it's crazy because, like, every time somebody gets kicked in the nuts, you say it.
[00:14:24]  You always say it.
[00:14:24]  Why don't you get a steel cup?
[00:14:26]  Yeah.
[00:14:26]  The fact that no one has a steel cup to me after all this time is unbelievable.
[00:14:31]  And it's ultimate cheap code in grappling to it.

=== Steel Cup Protection (02:59) ===

[00:14:35]  It was somebody.
[00:14:36]  If I got your back with that thing on, yeah.
[00:14:38]  Remember Amir Renovardi?
[00:14:40]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:41]  That's a long time ago.
[00:14:42]  Yeah, a long time ago.
[00:14:43]  I trained with him at Legends, and he mounted me and he put his cup in my solar plexus.
[00:14:49]  Like I was ready to tap from his dick.
[00:14:52]  Yeah, you know?
[00:14:53]  All right, imagine my 265 deal.
[00:14:57]  You know what I mean?
[00:14:58]  And I always wore a cup when I trained, you know?
[00:15:00]  And it's also a lever for an arm bar.
[00:15:03]  Oh, man.
[00:15:04]  It's like a rod.
[00:15:05]  An arm bar already there.
[00:15:06]  How are you going to slide your elbow past that?
[00:15:08]  You know, it's a weird fucking look when the guys wear the whole spandex and they have that steel cup.
[00:15:12]  So they got like a big fucking dick in there.
[00:15:15]  The Shoney Carter cup.
[00:15:16]  Yeah, it's smart.
[00:15:17]  That's a YoL Romero.
[00:15:18]  You remember that Shoney Carter cup?
[00:15:20]  I think Eddie fucking talked about it for the entire fight.
[00:15:23]  It was a King of the Cage fight.
[00:15:24]  And Shoney was fighting and he had a giant couple.
[00:15:27]  And I swear Eddie just commentated about the size of the cup.
[00:15:31]  It was hilarious.
[00:15:32]  Bro, in the Taekwondo days, they had ones you'd put on over your pants.
[00:15:36]  So you'd have your gi pants on and then you'd put these ones on over it and it had like this big strap.
[00:15:42]  It'd go right up to your taint.
[00:15:44]  Like right literally to your asshole.
[00:15:46]  And then go all the way up like this, and you would strap it in.
[00:15:48]  But it was way better.
[00:15:49]  It was way better.
[00:15:50]  Was it like a boxing cup?
[00:15:52]  No, it was just for Taekwondo.
[00:15:54]  It was just literally designed to wear outside.
[00:15:56]  So you could kick it out.
[00:15:57]  And that's when I realized, oh, you can never wear regular cups.
[00:16:00]  Regular cups move too much.
[00:16:01]  It's just sitting there.
[00:16:03]  And sometimes your nut gets caught between the cup and your leg.
[00:16:07]  When you get hit there, it's way worse.
[00:16:09]  And I think maybe the UFC should make that mandatory.
[00:16:12]  100%.
[00:16:13]  You don't have to wear a mouthpiece?
[00:16:15]  Why don't you wear compression shorts?
[00:16:16]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:16:17]  Wear those like the Diamond MMA ones.
[00:16:19]  That's a cup I have.
[00:16:20]  I like it.
[00:16:20]  Legit.
[00:16:21]  And if you don't want to wear steel, that's fine.
[00:16:23]  You don't want to have dental floss up your asshole.
[00:16:27]  It's uncomfortable, but that's, I would think, if I was advising someone, I'd say get a fucking steel cup before they outlaw it.
[00:16:35]  Because they should outlaw it a long time ago.
[00:16:37]  You should have to wear that, though.
[00:16:39]  I mean, it would eliminate all the nutshots.
[00:16:41]  If you're smart, you would wear a steel cup 100%.
[00:16:44]  If somebody kicks you in the nuts, it'll hurt them more than it hurts you.
[00:16:47]  Like, it protects you from everything.
[00:16:50]  It's uncomfortable.
[00:16:51]  That's all it is.
[00:16:52]  Just uncomfortable.
[00:16:53]  So, I mean, so's fighting.
[00:16:55]  Yeah, yeah, so it's fighting.
[00:16:56]  So it's getting kicked in the neck.
[00:16:57]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:58]  Dude, I can't believe it's legal.
[00:17:00]  I really do.
[00:17:00]  It's like one of the.
[00:17:01]  How do you have steel in there?
[00:17:04]  Who sees that?
[00:17:05]  I don't think anybody has steel.
[00:17:06]  A bunch of guys do.
[00:17:07]  DC wore it every fight he had.
[00:17:09]  Oh, shit.
[00:17:10]  Dude, imagine a guy diving on a double and you hip into him.
[00:17:16]  Ooh, man.
[00:17:17]  You're slamming his face with your dick.
[00:17:19]  Your dick is covered in metal.
[00:17:21]  Your dick's covered in metal.
[00:17:23]  And that's legal.
[00:17:24]  Yeah.
[00:17:24]  You have to have pads on your knuckles.
[00:17:26]  Yeah.
[00:17:26]  You have to have pads on your knuckles and you got an armor plate over your cock.
[00:17:31]  Yeah, I would definitely wear that if I was fighting.

=== Predicting Delagrati Hits (02:49) ===

[00:17:34]  I'm selling them.
[00:17:35]  Why not?
[00:17:36]  I'm going to start selling them on my website.
[00:17:40]  Because it's like, there's no way that should be legal.
[00:17:43]  Yeah.
[00:17:43]  Like, how is that legal?
[00:17:45]  I don't know.
[00:17:45]  It's fucking metal.
[00:17:47]  You're bringing metal into the equation.
[00:17:50]  A foot can hit metal, a knee can hit metal.
[00:17:52]  And you can do that, and the fact that no one does it?
[00:17:55]  It's not.
[00:17:55]  Well, a few guys do it.
[00:17:56]  We were talking about different guys who've done it that are currently doing it.
[00:18:00]  And I know DC did it, but there's a few guys who still do it.
[00:18:03]  And we were talking about it on one of the broadcasts.
[00:18:05]  I don't remember which guys he was pointing out, but there's a few guys.
[00:18:08]  Kenny Florian always wore a Steel Cup.
[00:18:10]  But the fact that not everyone does it from Delagrade.
[00:18:13]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:18:13]  Delagrade, for sure.
[00:18:14]  100%.
[00:18:14]  Yeah.
[00:18:14]  Damn.
[00:18:15]  That's fucking interesting.
[00:18:18]  You're here with Delagrade.
[00:18:19]  He starts talking Thai.
[00:18:21]  No, I never heard of it.
[00:18:22]  He speaks fluent Thai.
[00:18:23]  Does he really?
[00:18:23]  He's got that, he's like a Guinea from East India, from Boston.
[00:18:28]  When he talks, he can talk to Thai people, it freaks them out.
[00:18:32]  Really?
[00:18:32]  Oh, yeah, man.
[00:18:33]  He spent a lot of time in Thailand.
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[00:19:47]  Well, he's my man.
[00:19:48]  I go to Boston to stay with him.
[00:19:50]  Yeah, and his wife always cooks for me.
[00:19:52]  What a great, true, great people.
[00:19:54]  He's a maniac.
[00:19:55]  I love that dude.
[00:19:56]  On the Ultimate Fighter IV, we didn't have assigned coaches, and he would just work with us like anytime we needed him.
[00:20:01]  Yeah.
[00:20:01]  You know what I mean?
[00:20:02]  He was great.
[00:20:03]  And he would let us tackle him and fucking mount him and fucking.
[00:20:06]  You know what I mean?
[00:20:07]  Yeah, he was awesome as well.
[00:20:08]  Yeah, he's great, Mark.
[00:20:09]  He's a good coach.
[00:20:10]  He's a really good coach, too.
[00:20:12]  You know who was really impressive working with him was Kevin James.
[00:20:16]  You know, Kevin James, you know, you think of him as the king of queens.
[00:20:19]  He's worked with Mark a lot.
[00:20:20]  And Kevin's been my friend for years.
[00:20:22]  But I really hadn't seen him hit pads.

=== Baddest Lannister Characters (09:17) ===

[00:20:24]  I saw him hit pads with Delagrati.
[00:20:26]  I was like, what the fuck, dude?
[00:20:28]  I'm like, that's good.
[00:20:29]  Like, this looks good.
[00:20:31]  Mark will make you look good.
[00:20:32]  Mark will make you look good.
[00:20:33]  He's a good fucking coach, man.
[00:20:34]  He's a really solid coach.
[00:20:36]  He gave Longo a black eye.
[00:20:38]  Did he?
[00:20:38]  He spawned one time with Longo, Kevin James.
[00:20:41]  Did he?
[00:20:41]  Longo was walking around like fucking Petey from The Little Rascal.
[00:20:43]  That's awesome.
[00:20:45]  He's a deceptively fast dude.
[00:20:47]  Yeah, he's athletic.
[00:20:48]  You know, for sure.
[00:20:48]  He's a big dude.
[00:20:49]  When I first met him, he was.
[00:20:50]  Jacked.
[00:20:52]  Like he wasn't as big as he got at one point in time, but he's always kind of seesawed back and forth.
[00:20:56]  But he was a karate guy.
[00:20:58]  He was always doing karate when he was younger.
[00:21:00]  He's super athletic.
[00:21:01]  There he is.
[00:21:02]  It doesn't look as good there.
[00:21:03]  It looks like me.
[00:21:04]  Yeah, it looks like me.
[00:21:06]  I think that's when he was just getting into it, honestly.
[00:21:08]  Right.
[00:21:09]  But he had Delagrati staying with him a while, and Delagrati was training him.
[00:21:13]  Yeah, I saw him in Killcliffe, just like blending in with the guys.
[00:21:17]  Like he wasn't like standing out.
[00:21:18]  He was just at Killcliffe, just where I was.
[00:21:20]  Training, yeah, blending in with the guys.
[00:21:22]  He's a great guy.
[00:21:23]  I've known him forever.
[00:21:24]  I just seen him in either Becky or The Wrath of Becky.
[00:21:28]  Oh, yeah.
[00:21:29]  That's a good show.
[00:21:30]  He plays a psycho.
[00:21:32]  And the girl in it is great.
[00:21:34]  The girl's like a little psycho girl.
[00:21:36]  That's a fun movie.
[00:21:37]  It's fun.
[00:21:38]  Really?
[00:21:38]  I think it's the first one called Becky.
[00:21:40]  And he plays a villain.
[00:21:41]  He plays.
[00:21:43]  The other guy that did it was Joel McHale.
[00:21:46]  Joel McHale played the second psycho in one of the other movies.
[00:21:49]  I forget, was that the first or the second one?
[00:21:51]  I think he's in the second one, The Wrath of Becky.
[00:21:53]  Kevin was awesome.
[00:21:54]  These are good movies.
[00:21:55]  Kevin played a good psycho.
[00:21:57]  Hey, did you ever see the Night of the Seven Kingdoms?
[00:22:01]  No, I haven't seen that yet.
[00:22:02]  I'm telling you, I'm going to watch it, though, because I'm in the middle of finishing the first season of Game of Thrones.
[00:22:07]  The first year, the first all Game of Thrones.
[00:22:10]  What, you're doing it over?
[00:22:11]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:22:11]  Oh, you've seen it already?
[00:22:12]  Yeah, but I haven't seen it since like 2015 or 11.
[00:22:16]  It's fucking amazing.
[00:22:17]  I forgot so much.
[00:22:18]  It's fucking awesome.
[00:22:20]  This, you don't even have to watch any of the Game of Thrones, because this takes place 90 years before the first event of the Game of Thrones.
[00:22:27]  Sir Duncan the Tall.
[00:22:29]  Yep.
[00:22:29]  And it is so good.
[00:22:31]  It is good.
[00:22:31]  So well done.
[00:22:32]  And it's based on the novel.
[00:22:34]  I'm a fucking nerd.
[00:22:36]  I read the graphic novel of it by George R.R. Martin.
[00:22:39]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:22:40]  And I read it back in the day.
[00:22:42]  And it was, it's so great.
[00:22:44]  And you know how they have like trial by combat?
[00:22:47]  Yeah.
[00:22:48]  In this one, not to give everything away, but this guy gets into it and he has to do a trial by seven.
[00:22:53]  So it's seven on seven nights.
[00:22:54]  Yep.
[00:22:55]  And it's like one of those things.
[00:22:56]  He's a hedge knight.
[00:22:57]  It's fucking really.
[00:22:58]  Yeah, it's good.
[00:22:59]  It's a great story.
[00:23:00]  Did you ever watch The House of the Dragon?
[00:23:02]  Yes.
[00:23:03]  It's a lot of cool shit.
[00:23:05]  Yeah.
[00:23:05]  But there's no one to root for.
[00:23:06]  They're a bunch of pricks.
[00:23:08]  Right.
[00:23:08]  One's worse than the other.
[00:23:09]  Right.
[00:23:10]  I mean, back in Game of Thrones, Jon Snow, we had that.
[00:23:13]  Right.
[00:23:14]  Ned Stark.
[00:23:15]  Guys do it.
[00:23:16]  Even some guys that are, you know, even just great characters and some guys that are on, like, The Hound, who's like the anti hero.
[00:23:22]  But with this one, it's just a fucking good, solid dude trying to do the right thing.
[00:23:28]  Yep.
[00:23:29]  And, uh, And by trying to do the right thing, he gets into some trouble.
[00:23:34]  And it's just, it gives you like, it's like being righteous and have real heroics.
[00:23:41]  You know what I mean?
[00:23:41]  Some shit's missing nowadays because it's all about getting a fucking message in there or making some shit diverse, which I love, though.
[00:23:50]  You know what's really funny about it?
[00:23:53]  Game of Thrones.
[00:23:55]  Game of Thrones was like a feminist series.
[00:24:00]  If you really think about it, I mean, it really was.
[00:24:02]  But without any fanfare.
[00:24:05]  Like, no bringing it up.
[00:24:07]  No one paid attention to it.
[00:24:08]  But the baddest people on that show were the women.
[00:24:11]  Cersei Lannister was the baddest bitch in the world.
[00:24:13]  Arya Stark fucking killed everybody.
[00:24:16]  Sansa Stark kept it together through all that shit.
[00:24:19]  Brianna of Tar fucked everybody up, including the hounds.
[00:24:22]  Yeah, I didn't realize that.
[00:24:24]  I got the queen of dragons.
[00:24:25]  Yes, and you got Daenerys.
[00:24:27]  The queen of dragons, who's the baddest motherfucker on earth.
[00:24:30]  You literally can't.
[00:24:31]  Burn her and she's got three dragons.
[00:24:33]  Yeah, it's a feminist series.
[00:24:35]  I didn't even realize that.
[00:24:37]  It is, it's a completely feminist series, but without it, it never even crosses your mind because it's so good you don't care.
[00:24:43]  It's not, it's not like dumb.
[00:24:46]  You haven't watched that scene?
[00:24:47]  No, I, yeah, all right, yeah.
[00:24:48]  And House of Dragons is the same way, right?
[00:24:50]  Like, there's some of these like Star Wars movies where it's all women generals and you're like, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, and all the men are scared of them and they all like, get out of the room.
[00:25:03]  Like, this is fiction, right?
[00:25:04]  This is nonsense.
[00:25:06]  Even though that's obviously fiction too, it's way better.
[00:25:10]  A lady that has dragons.
[00:25:12]  The hottest bitch around.
[00:25:13]  She's got dragons.
[00:25:14]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:15]  She fucks a bunch of killers.
[00:25:16]  Yeah.
[00:25:16]  She brings them into her bed.
[00:25:17]  Well, because they do a good job of making them.
[00:25:19]  They're fucking barbarians.
[00:25:20]  Well, they do such a good job of making them flawed.
[00:25:23]  Yeah.
[00:25:23]  That you don't even realize that they are the baddest motherfuckers in the world.
[00:25:28]  But they're flawed in a way where it's like it makes them human.
[00:25:32]  Yeah.
[00:25:32]  Yeah.
[00:25:32]  I mean, look at Cersei Lanister.
[00:25:34]  All of her kids gone.
[00:25:35]  That bitch survives.
[00:25:36]  She's got a giant demon that watches over her.
[00:25:39]  Yeah.
[00:25:39]  Right?
[00:25:39]  Like she's in love with her brother.
[00:25:41]  She fucks her brother.
[00:25:42]  Her brother.
[00:25:43]  Her brother.
[00:25:43]  Maybe when she had the.
[00:25:44]  Well, spoiler alert.
[00:25:46]  When she had that, the priest that tortured her while she was in the cell, when they finally got her.
[00:25:50]  Yeah.
[00:25:51]  And she's like, I'm ready to meet my maker.
[00:25:52]  She's like, Oh, you're not going to die today.
[00:25:54]  Oh, man.
[00:25:56]  And then the.
[00:25:58]  He was a shot.
[00:25:58]  That was John Rolo.
[00:26:01]  That was John Rolo.
[00:26:02]  Fucking hell.
[00:26:03]  Oh, my God.
[00:26:04]  Oh, dude.
[00:26:06]  That was such a horrifying scene.
[00:26:08]  It was such a great show.
[00:26:10]  Is there a better, like, world universe than that?
[00:26:13]  No one was safe on that show.
[00:26:15]  You never knew.
[00:26:16]  The biggest character could just get.
[00:26:18]  Fucking murked like the next episode.
[00:26:20]  Yeah, Pedro Pascal that played that.
[00:26:23]  What was his character?
[00:26:25]  Oh, yeah.
[00:26:25]  Dor, when he got killed by the old prince of Dor.
[00:26:28]  First of all, I never thought they would kill him.
[00:26:29]  Like, that guy's an important character.
[00:26:31]  He's bringing all this new life to the show.
[00:26:33]  And all of a sudden, you see the mountain.
[00:26:34]  Get his arm.
[00:26:35]  Knuckles into that guy's eyeballs and flushes.
[00:26:38]  Yeah, that was so crazy.
[00:26:39]  Holy fuck.
[00:26:39]  That was like one of the most disturbing murder scenes you've ever seen in your life.
[00:26:43]  And he was doing great.
[00:26:44]  He was taking the shit out of him.
[00:26:45]  He got too cocky.
[00:26:46]  Yeah, man.
[00:26:46]  He worked him over.
[00:26:48]  Thought he had him.
[00:26:49]  You raped her!
[00:26:50]  You murdered her!
[00:26:51]  You killed her children!
[00:26:52]  Some shit like that.
[00:26:53]  He kept repeating it.
[00:26:54]  Yeah, and it was strutting around with the mountains on his back.
[00:26:59]  They are.
[00:26:59]  What a crazy show.
[00:27:00]  Such a good show.
[00:27:01]  One of the greatest shows of all time.
[00:27:03]  I'm telling you, you gotta text me after you watch The Night of the Seven Kingdoms because it's all out.
[00:27:07]  You can binge it.
[00:27:08]  I'm gonna do it as soon as we're done with this.
[00:27:09]  We're on season seven now.
[00:27:11]  Six episodes.
[00:27:12]  Each episode's like 30 minutes.
[00:27:14]  Right, you run through it.
[00:27:15]  The House of Dragons never really dragged me in.
[00:27:18]  It did.
[00:27:18]  It was interesting.
[00:27:19]  Yeah.
[00:27:19]  You know, it was like I liked it.
[00:27:21]  But it wasn't the same thing.
[00:27:22]  Definitely not.
[00:27:24]  I think this, the new one is, in my opinion, better, I thought.
[00:27:28]  Oh, the Sniper, whatever.
[00:27:30]  It's so good.
[00:27:30]  It's Seven Kingdoms.
[00:27:31]  There's parts in it that just get you going, like, fuck you there.
[00:27:34]  Hell yeah.
[00:27:35]  Hell yeah.
[00:27:35]  I'm looking forward to it.
[00:27:37]  I hope they lengthen it a little bit.
[00:27:38]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:27:39]  Six half hour episodes.
[00:27:41]  But I love the relationship between the kid and the dunk.
[00:27:43]  Yeah.
[00:27:43]  That was the whole show.
[00:27:46]  cool, right?
[00:27:47]  One thing I did love about House of Dragons when they were trying to figure out who could ride a dragon.
[00:27:51]  Oh, that was cool.
[00:27:51]  And they brought all those people down there to Tesco.
[00:27:53]  Oh, yeah.
[00:27:55]  Snatch.
[00:27:56]  Snatch.
[00:27:56]  You have to have some Targaryen blood.
[00:27:58]  And a lot of the Targaryens fucked a lot of regular people.
[00:28:01]  So they were searching for Targaryen blood, just taking people out of the pub and just push them in front of the drag.
[00:28:06]  That was crazy.
[00:28:08]  She first asked one of the King's Guard, like, you know, we tracked you back to whatever.
[00:28:12]  And he's like, oh, it's a great honor.
[00:28:13]  No, I want to do it.
[00:28:14]  Yeah, buddy.
[00:28:15]  Careful what you wish for, motherfucker.
[00:28:17]  That scene was nuts.
[00:28:18]  That scene was nuts.
[00:28:20]  Dude, the red wedding fucking happened.
[00:28:22]  It was the craziest shit.
[00:28:23]  We couldn't believe it was happening.
[00:28:24]  While it was happening, like, this can't be happening.
[00:28:26]  Because we're taking everybody.
[00:28:27]  It's happening.
[00:28:28]  This can't be happening.
[00:28:29]  Did you hate the ending as much as.
[00:28:31]  I did not enjoy it.
[00:28:32]  It felt to me like they had to tie it up and, like, da da da, nice little ball.
[00:28:37]  You know, I would have been almost better if it was like No Country for Old Men style.
[00:28:42]  I think all shows should be like that because life continues afterwards, right?
[00:28:46]  You don't have to tie it in.
[00:28:47]  I'm not.
[00:28:48]  You're 12.
[00:28:48]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:28:50]  Once it got past the books, it took a hit.
[00:28:53]  Yeah.
[00:28:54]  Well, that guy's a genius.
[00:28:55]  I mean, the world that guy created and the complexity of all the characters, like Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister.
[00:29:02]  Oh, my gosh.
[00:29:04]  I mean, Tyrion Ransom.
[00:29:05]  Yeah, man.
[00:29:06]  I mean, that guy was so fucking good, man.
[00:29:09]  They're already doing the Sworn Sword, which is the second book of Game of Thrones of the Duncan Egg Tales.
[00:29:16]  Oh, nice.
[00:29:17]  Yeah.
[00:29:17]  Awesome.
[00:29:19]  That's his writing too?
[00:29:20]  That's his, yeah.
[00:29:21]  He also did another one.
[00:29:23]  He did three books.
[00:29:24]  It was.
[00:29:24]  A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, which they just did.
[00:29:26]  They're going to do a Sworn Sword, and then it's the Mystery Night.
[00:29:30]  I don't know anything, but I know a lot of Game of Thrones shit.
[00:29:33]  Don't ask me about anything.
[00:29:34]  Game of Thrones and Star Wars, you're my go to.
[00:29:37]  The world's so fucked up, you're way better off with that stuff in your head.

=== Youssef Ten Round Fight (15:16) ===

[00:29:41]  That's why I do it, man.
[00:29:42]  It's such an escape, man, just to sit home and watch TV.
[00:29:45]  That's all I do, man.
[00:29:46]  Sit home and watch TV.
[00:29:47]  Speaking of Star Wars, I got a text out of nowhere from George St. Pierre.
[00:29:52]  He loves it as much as me.
[00:29:53]  Oh, yeah.
[00:29:54]  It was just about the new Darth Maul animated series.
[00:29:56]  Oh, no, I swear to God.
[00:29:58]  Yo.
[00:29:59]  And then he gave me back a report.
[00:30:00]  He told me, he's like, oh, it's so far so good.
[00:30:02]  I told you, my brother's like, I know Matt's in the Star Wars.
[00:30:06]  Tell him to watch the new Darth Maul.
[00:30:08]  You know, Jamie says, It's fun.
[00:30:10]  I love George.
[00:30:11]  He's the best.
[00:30:13]  I have the hardest time convincing people who he is.
[00:30:16]  It's hilarious.
[00:30:16]  What do you mean?
[00:30:17]  When he comes to the mothership and people that don't know anything about MMA, they're like, What does your friend do?
[00:30:22]  I go, That is one of the greatest fighters that ever walked the face of the earth.
[00:30:27]  100%.
[00:30:27]  They're like, No, for real.
[00:30:28]  I go, Yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time.
[00:30:32]  And he's like, hello, nice to meet you.
[00:30:35]  He just seems so sweet and friendly.
[00:30:37]  Man, that's the problem with MMA is that you have to convince people about how bad somebody was.
[00:30:42]  And it wasn't that long ago.
[00:30:43]  I mean, it wasn't that long ago that George St. Pierre was the fucking greatest of all time.
[00:30:47]  No, it wasn't that long ago.
[00:30:48]  And now, but the fans are so new that they don't get it.
[00:30:51]  They don't go back and watch it.
[00:30:52]  They had to watch, like, go back and watch the John Fitch fight.
[00:30:55]  Oh, man.
[00:30:56]  Prime GSP.
[00:30:58]  Prime.
[00:30:59]  He was terrifying.
[00:31:01]  Incredible gas tank, great flow between grappling and striking.
[00:31:05]  Very creative.
[00:31:06]  He put that shit together the best.
[00:31:08]  That's why he had such success taking everybody down.
[00:31:11]  He would set it up, his level change.
[00:31:13]  And he always ran through every takedown.
[00:31:15]  It was never.
[00:31:16]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:17]  He was going to run you across the cage.
[00:31:19]  George was phenomenal.
[00:31:20]  And then I think Farah Zahabi was a big part of that too.
[00:31:23]  Farah Zahabi's a bad motherfucker.
[00:31:25]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:25]  He's smart.
[00:31:26]  You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns?
[00:31:27]  Sometimes, yeah.
[00:31:28]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:28]  He's incredible.
[00:31:29]  He's very astute.
[00:31:31]  He's so knowledgeable of the game, of every aspect of it.
[00:31:35]  His brother is doing well.
[00:31:36]  Yeah, his brother's fighting at the White House.
[00:31:38]  He's fighting Sean O'Malley, and I think people are sleeping on him.
[00:31:42]  Well, listen, he keeps winning.
[00:31:44]  Yeah.
[00:31:44]  He keeps fucking winning.
[00:31:46]  The one fight that he had that was kind of a little controversial was Aldo.
[00:31:50]  Remember, Aldo almost had it.
[00:31:52]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:31:53]  I'm not sure he won that fight.
[00:31:54]  Maybe.
[00:31:55]  Because I think they're not being generous enough with the 10 8s and the 10 7s.
[00:32:00]  They don't do it enough.
[00:32:01]  Not enough.
[00:32:02]  When a guy just tunes you up for like a minute and a half of the round and you almost go unconscious, you know, like that means a lot.
[00:32:11]  I hate the fact that they don't use it enough.
[00:32:13]  All because, like, Dana was like, oh, I don't like it.
[00:32:16]  And now the judges are just like, no, we can't do it because.
[00:32:18]  Listen, the scoring system sucks because we stole it from boxing.
[00:32:22]  It's not.
[00:32:23]  It doesn't have enough points.
[00:32:25]  For sure.
[00:32:25]  It should be like, you should get a certain amount of points for different things.
[00:32:30]  But it would be really hard to calculate because it would have to be subjective.
[00:32:34]  Like, if Pereira hits you, it's way harder than if someone's like, you know, Paul Craig.
[00:32:40]  Right.
[00:32:40]  Yeah.
[00:32:41]  No disrespect.
[00:32:41]  But you know what I'm saying?
[00:32:43]  The consequences are very different.
[00:32:44]  So if he hits you with a left hook, It's different than if Pereira hits you the left foot.
[00:32:47]  So that's subjective.
[00:32:48]  But in terms of what happens in the fight, you should be counting in submission attempts.
[00:32:54]  You should be counting in takedown attempts.
[00:32:55]  Like who was more aggressive?
[00:32:57]  Who was more defensive?
[00:32:59]  Who implemented their strategy?
[00:33:01]  You should have like 100 points to work with.
[00:33:02]  Absolutely.
[00:33:03]  He got 10 points.
[00:33:04]  Why are we only using two of them?
[00:33:05]  Nine in a 10.
[00:33:06]  Why?
[00:33:06]  I don't get it.
[00:33:07]  It doesn't make any sense because there are 10-9 rounds that are like, ah, could be anybody.
[00:33:11]  And there are 10-9 rounds where he dominated.
[00:33:14]  That's not true.
[00:33:14]  Well, see, like UFC BJJ uses that.
[00:33:17]  And it works better for that because they're very liberal with the 10 8s and 10 7s.
[00:33:22]  They use it a lot.
[00:33:23]  They're like, if it's close, it's a 10 9.
[00:33:26]  If it's one sided, it's automatically a 10 8.
[00:33:29]  So they use it a lot.
[00:33:30]  That makes more sense.
[00:33:31]  That does make more sense.
[00:33:32]  But even in BJJ, I would say you'd need more points.
[00:33:36]  You need to like, it's like the difference between a 70 30 round where a guy's dominating you 70% of the time and a 51 49 round is fucking huge.
[00:33:45]  Yeah.
[00:33:46]  It's huge and it doesn't reflect it in the scorecards at all.
[00:33:48]  Yeah.
[00:33:49]  So, like, you could win a 10 9 round the first round where it's like you're barely ahead.
[00:33:54]  Like, maybe I'll give it to you.
[00:33:55]  And then the second round, that dude fucks you up and he gets a 10 9 round because you didn't go down.
[00:34:01]  Yeah.
[00:34:02]  But he's head kicking you and you're blocking it.
[00:34:04]  You're getting teeped.
[00:34:06]  Your legs are getting kicked all the time.
[00:34:07]  It's still a 10 9 round.
[00:34:09]  That's nuts.
[00:34:10]  No.
[00:34:10]  Just because you didn't go unconscious?
[00:34:12]  Just because you didn't get knocked down?
[00:34:13]  I think it's my ADD's kicking in, but we're talking about the close calls, close scoring.
[00:34:19]  I thought Aljo.
[00:34:21]  I thought he should have got that nod against fucking.
[00:34:23]  Ivoryev?
[00:34:24]  I thought so too.
[00:34:25]  I didn't think there was a.
[00:34:26]  The guy got on the.
[00:34:27]  One question, dude.
[00:34:28]  He got on the wrestle at the end, like a minute 30 left, and Aljo was winning that whole first round.
[00:34:31]  Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert.
[00:34:34]  He could be undefeated at 143.
[00:34:35]  He's a nightmare, because if your whole thing is grappling with people and you got to grapple with Aljo, you got problems.
[00:34:40]  Yeah.
[00:34:41]  That dude gets your back.
[00:34:42]  He's got.
[00:34:43]  I mean, him and Jan were 10 8 rounds.
[00:34:46]  Like, he was just on his back.
[00:34:47]  Dominated him in the second round, and they don't know.
[00:34:51]  How is that not a 10 8 round?
[00:34:52]  He's fighting Youssef Salal, soon.
[00:34:55]  Yeah, yeah, Youssef's allowed.
[00:34:57]  And that's on the 25th of April.
[00:34:58]  But I mean, but I think, you know, if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this.
[00:35:03]  Did Aljo over Jan in the second fight, was that like the best anybody's ever done with Jan?
[00:35:08]  Oh, yeah, straight up.
[00:35:10]  Right?
[00:35:10]  His control is just so good when it hits the floor.
[00:35:13]  That's the difference between him and Marab.
[00:35:14]  Marab can keep getting you down and up, down and up.
[00:35:16]  Right.
[00:35:16]  Aljo hits the floor.
[00:35:18]  Yeah, you're not good at it.
[00:35:20]  He just needs back exposure.
[00:35:21]  He's one of those.
[00:35:22]  Some guys, they can't jump up on the back.
[00:35:24]  It's not good for them.
[00:35:24]  They're going to get tired.
[00:35:26]  Dude, all day long.
[00:35:27]  He'll just go up there, lock that shit on.
[00:35:30]  If he doesn't catch him, that's his round.
[00:35:32]  Bro, the Sanhagen fight was a masterpiece.
[00:35:37]  His grappling is so, so good.
[00:35:38]  Yeah, he doesn't get proper credit.
[00:35:40]  No, this is back take.
[00:35:41]  Some of the best in the sport, period.
[00:35:43]  Man, they're not a big fan of his.
[00:35:45]  They don't push.
[00:35:46]  Wow!
[00:35:47]  He's such a nice.
[00:35:48]  Guy.
[00:35:48]  I know, he does everything right.
[00:35:49]  He's such a nice guy.
[00:35:50]  I think it's the one guy.
[00:35:51]  You know, the young fight with the neck, I think that turned everybody against him.
[00:35:56]  Those people were wrong.
[00:35:58]  Yeah, but look what happened.
[00:35:58]  It was fucked up.
[00:35:59]  And look what happened in the second.
[00:36:01]  I mean, he should have validated the entire thing by whipping his ass in the second fight.
[00:36:05]  But they already decided to hate him.
[00:36:09]  He had to get his fucking disc replaced.
[00:36:11]  It was real.
[00:36:12]  It was a real fucking injury.
[00:36:14]  He could be a two time champ, a double division champ.
[00:36:17]  I mean, he's.
[00:36:18]  In my mind, he's undefeated at 145.
[00:36:21]  Look what he did to Calvin Cater, which was a beast, but it was very impressive.
[00:36:25]  If you didn't know Calvin Cater, if that's your first fight seeing him, you'd be like, oh, that guy doesn't belong here, which he obviously does.
[00:36:30]  He's a beast.
[00:36:31]  But Alger was masterful.
[00:36:34]  He's good at not getting hit.
[00:36:36]  So it's like he's not giving you that back and forth.
[00:36:40]  And Longo says, you've seen 20% of what he could do stand up and stand it up.
[00:36:44]  Like I'd ask him something.
[00:36:46]  He's like, he could put his foot wherever he wants it.
[00:36:49]  About a kick or something.
[00:36:50]  He's just really, really talented, man.
[00:36:53]  I hope he gets his shot.
[00:36:54]  If he takes out Youssef, I hope they give him a shot again.
[00:36:59]  Because I think he could be a two time champ.
[00:37:01]  Well, listen, he's still a bad motherfucker.
[00:37:03]  He's a nightmare for everybody.
[00:37:06]  Especially if he gets a hold of you.
[00:37:07]  Yeah.
[00:37:07]  But I mean, people look at the one fight losses.
[00:37:11]  They look at the Sean O'Malley fight.
[00:37:13]  Like, Sean caught him perfect.
[00:37:14]  That's just how it was.
[00:37:15]  And, you know, his head wasn't really in that because he didn't even want to be there.
[00:37:19]  Nope.
[00:37:19]  Why didn't he want to be there?
[00:37:21]  He fought him.
[00:37:22]  They made him fight.
[00:37:23]  They made him fight that fight.
[00:37:24]  He didn't want to fight.
[00:37:25]  Yeah.
[00:37:26]  They did, like, a whole documentary on it where it was like they kind of twisted his arm to be like, you got to do this.
[00:37:32]  And they were injured.
[00:37:34]  I think he was injured.
[00:37:35]  There was a quick turnaround.
[00:37:36]  Yeah, two turnarounds.
[00:37:37]  It was just as quick a turnaround.
[00:37:38]  He's the champ.
[00:37:39]  He didn't feel he should be.
[00:37:40]  Forced into, you know.
[00:37:42]  But he thought the number, he thought the pay per view numbers was going to make up for it.
[00:37:46]  He thought he was going to get all this money from it because he was like, all right, I'll do it.
[00:37:49]  Sean O'Malley's going to bring in the numbers.
[00:37:51]  Then he said, when it was over, he saw the numbers.
[00:37:53]  He was like, if I knew the numbers was going to be like this, I don't think I'd have done it.
[00:37:58]  Really?
[00:37:58]  Yeah.
[00:37:59]  So it didn't do well.
[00:38:01]  It didn't do as well as he thought he was going to do based on Sean O'Malley's presence.
[00:38:07]  Listen, man, it takes a lot to get people to.
[00:38:10]  Pay for something today.
[00:38:11]  There's too much of it.
[00:38:12]  It's just to seal it.
[00:38:14]  This Paramount thing is genius in that regard.
[00:38:16]  Yeah.
[00:38:16]  Is that all you have to do is have that app, which a lot of people have already anyway.
[00:38:19]  Yeah.
[00:38:20]  That's genius.
[00:38:21]  But to make people pay every time to watch fights, like, there's so much to watch today.
[00:38:26]  Well, that was the one thing that my people at ESPN told me.
[00:38:30]  It was like, it's a big difference between being popular and then having people pay to watch you fight.
[00:38:35]  Yeah.
[00:38:35]  Like, you can be popular, but ain't nobody paying you to fight.
[00:38:38]  So it's a big difference.
[00:38:39]  It's a giant difference.
[00:38:40]  Yeah.
[00:38:40]  Yeah, it's a giant difference.
[00:38:42]  I like that it's on Paramount as a fan, though.
[00:38:45]  Yeah, it saves you a ton of money.
[00:38:47]  I used to pay for every one of them.
[00:38:49]  This Netflix thing is nice, too.
[00:38:51]  It's good to see that there's someone who's willing to throw a lot of money at MMA in another large arena, like Netflix.
[00:38:59]  What are you doing, guys?
[00:39:01]  Gina versus Rhonda.
[00:39:04]  I think round one submission, Rhonda.
[00:39:06]  Yeah.
[00:39:07]  Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her, which I doubt.
[00:39:10]  I hope not.
[00:39:12]  I don't know what Gene has been doing.
[00:39:15]  You know, I don't know how long she went without MMA training at all.
[00:39:20]  She was recently a little heavy.
[00:39:21]  I can say that.
[00:39:22]  She looks great now.
[00:39:23]  Does she look great now?
[00:39:24]  She looks great now.
[00:39:25]  Look, she got in great shape.
[00:39:26]  She got in great shape.
[00:39:27]  But she's still like 43 years old.
[00:39:28]  Yes.
[00:39:29]  Come on.
[00:39:29]  But the question is, like, what was she doing in those?
[00:39:33]  Was she still training some?
[00:39:34]  That would be my real question.
[00:39:36]  Because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I got to go.
[00:39:41]  I mean, but with the weight loss, with the weight.
[00:39:44]  Gain that she had.
[00:39:45]  There was no way she was training her with anything.
[00:39:47]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:39:48]  Like, she's back in shape, and she obviously is buxing her ass to do that, but how long, like you're saying, was she down?
[00:39:56]  And she has to develop a grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever.
[00:40:02]  No, Ronda's.
[00:40:04]  Her only hope is to keep it on the field.
[00:40:07]  She would pull guard and sweeper or arm locker.
[00:40:10]  Her arm locks are amazing.
[00:40:11]  Her arm locks are amazing.
[00:40:13]  They're preposterous.
[00:40:14]  You know?
[00:40:14]  I think there's too many.
[00:40:15]  There's too big a problem.
[00:40:15]  Dude or chick, her arm bars are amazing.
[00:40:17]  Remember that Kat Zingano fight?
[00:40:18]  Cat, yeah.
[00:40:19]  Charged at her.
[00:40:20]  Cat threw her.
[00:40:21]  That was the craziest thing.
[00:40:22]  Got her an armbar, like instantaneously.
[00:40:23]  Yeah, what a stupid strategy that was.
[00:40:25]  Yeah, she blanked out on that one.
[00:40:27]  So crazy.
[00:40:28]  No, but that was such a sick transition, too.
[00:40:30]  No, but I saw a video of Gina hitting pads with John Wood that was kind of recent.
[00:40:35]  It did not look good.
[00:40:37]  How recent was it?
[00:40:38]  I don't know.
[00:40:39]  I don't know, but it didn't look good.
[00:40:40]  I was just like, it's hard to tell.
[00:40:42]  I hope this is older.
[00:40:44]  She's a big girl.
[00:40:45]  Maybe she can stop her from taking her down or something.
[00:40:47]  But also, what were they doing?
[00:40:49]  Were they just working on slow motion shit?
[00:40:51]  Were they just trying to get a movement?
[00:40:53]  Or were they getting in a hard mitt workout?
[00:40:55]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:40:55]  I mean, either way, like, just mechanically, it didn't look great.
[00:40:59]  Mechanically.
[00:41:00]  So, I mean, but it could have been, it's like one of those things where, like, this could be like her comeback session and she's just trying to get warmed up.
[00:41:07]  But who knows?
[00:41:08]  I mean, you know, who knows?
[00:41:09]  Maybe she's, who knows?
[00:41:10]  You just never know.
[00:41:11]  I hope so.
[00:41:11]  Yeah.
[00:41:12]  I hope it's better than that.
[00:41:13]  Round one submission.
[00:41:15]  That made me proudly, right?
[00:41:17]  I mean, come on.
[00:41:18]  I bet, you know, if you had Polymarket, you could make some money on that.
[00:41:21]  Right.
[00:41:23]  There's going to be a lot of bets on that.
[00:41:27]  It's exciting, though, that Netflix is doing it.
[00:41:29]  That's what I like.
[00:41:30]  I like that there's another place people can go.
[00:41:34]  But how sustainable is this, though?
[00:41:36]  That's my biggest question.
[00:41:37]  Whoever's putting the money up for this is going to lose their ass, I think.
[00:41:40]  You think they're going to make that money back?
[00:41:42]  Right, but here's the thing it's Netflix, right?
[00:41:44]  So Netflix has an insane amount of money, and they keep raking it in.
[00:41:48]  Like every month, people are paying whatever they're paying.
[00:41:50]  It's as high as, like, what, 19 bucks for ad free?
[00:41:53]  What is it?
[00:41:54]  How much is a Netflix account now?
[00:41:57]  I think it just went up, right?
[00:41:59]  Yeah, they think it's going up.
[00:42:00]  So, think, oh, that money is just coming in every month.
[00:42:03]  They just got to give people exciting things to want to watch, and they'll keep making more money because more people use Netflix.
[00:42:09]  Like, it would seem like they're going to lose their ass, but they're not because they have a completely different business model.
[00:42:15]  Obviously, I'm not a businessman.
[00:42:17]  $8.99 to $26.99 per month.
[00:42:20]  In fact, I'm a terrible businessman.
[00:42:22]  But I would imagine you'll just make money by giving people awesome shit so they keep tuning into Netflix.
[00:42:27]  So, in that sense, they're not going to lose any money.
[00:42:29]  Because there's a lot of MMA fans that probably subscribe to Netflix just so they can watch that fight.
[00:42:33]  Right.
[00:42:35]  So, who's on the card now?
[00:42:36]  It's like Felipe Lins versus Nganu.
[00:42:40]  Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz.
[00:42:42]  Right?
[00:42:43]  Oh, and.
[00:42:44]  Robles de Spain.
[00:42:45]  Yeah, the Spagna.
[00:42:47]  And Junior Dos Santos.
[00:42:49]  That one is like.
[00:42:51]  Who's it?
[00:42:52]  Robles de Spagna.
[00:42:53]  That tall, tall karate combat dude.
[00:42:56]  He's a Taekwondo black belt from Cuba.
[00:42:58]  Wait, versus Junior?
[00:42:59]  Yeah.
[00:42:59]  How old's Junior?
[00:43:00]  He's 50 now.
[00:43:02]  Is he 50?
[00:43:02]  No, he's close.
[00:43:04]  But he's in good shape.
[00:43:05]  I actually did a.
[00:43:06]  We spoke at a high school a couple of months ago.
[00:43:08]  Well, I'm glad to hear that.
[00:43:09]  I mean, at least these guys will get an outlet to make some extra money.
[00:43:12]  Man, man, who doesn't know?
[00:43:13]  Mogaev and Perry.
[00:43:15]  Adriano Moraes is a, you know, that's a.
[00:43:18]  Mogaev's probably going to school them.
[00:43:19]  But I mean, they're giving guys some opportunities.
[00:43:22]  So you got to like this.
[00:43:23]  Absolutely.
[00:43:24]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:43:26]  It'll be a big show.
[00:43:28]  A lot of people will tune in.
[00:43:29]  Diaz and Perry is going to be fucking bananas.
[00:43:32]  That'll be really fun to watch.
[00:43:34]  Yeah, that's, I mean, that'll be worth the price of it.
[00:43:36]  Imagine if that was 10 years ago, that fight.
[00:43:38]  I'm looking at this.
[00:43:39]  It's like if the GLL. LA went to fucking.
[00:43:42]  It came true.
[00:43:43]  The GFL?
[00:43:44]  Remember that Grandpa League?
[00:43:46]  No, not everybody.
[00:43:47]  They just stole all their talent.
[00:43:49]  Bro, Diaz versus Perry guaranteed dogfight.
[00:43:53]  Just a guaranteed dogfight.
[00:43:55]  That will not be the case.
[00:43:56]  Who do you think wins yet?
[00:43:58]  I think the jujitsu is going to be too much.
[00:44:01]  I kind of think that too.
[00:44:02]  I kind of think Nate might just drag him deeper, right?
[00:44:05]  We're going to see.
[00:44:06]  You know, we're going to see.
[00:44:07]  Oh, it's five rounds?
[00:44:08]  Five rounds?
[00:44:08]  That's crazy.
[00:44:09]  Five rounds is crazy.
[00:44:10]  I wonder why they agreed on that.
[00:44:12]  Interesting.
[00:44:14]  I didn't realize it.
[00:44:15]  Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it three rounds?
[00:44:17]  It's three.
[00:44:17]  When they first announced it, it was five by five for everything, but they've changed a bit.
[00:44:23]  So it says five by five for those?
[00:44:25]  Yeah, just for those two, though.
[00:44:26]  This one does not.
[00:44:27]  That one doesn't say anything?
[00:44:29]  No.
[00:44:29]  And it also says these are the main events.
[00:44:31]  I mean, I can't imagine Gina was in round four.
[00:44:33]  It actually does.
[00:44:34]  There it does.
[00:44:34]  It says it real.
[00:44:35]  It's hard to see it.
[00:44:36]  Yeah, five by five.
[00:44:36]  Right.
[00:44:37]  Professional.
[00:44:38]  Yeah.
[00:44:38]  Okay.
[00:44:39]  Bro, Lorenz Larkin, back in the day.
[00:44:42]  I remember he fought Neil Magni, was hitting him with oblique kicks to the chest.
[00:44:46]  And I was like, I do not think I've ever seen anybody throw it that way.
[00:44:50]  You ever see that fight?
[00:44:51]  No.
[00:44:51]  I don't remember that fight.
[00:44:53]  He tuned Neil Magni up.
[00:44:54]  Did he?
[00:44:54]  Lorenz Larkin was a bad motherfucker.

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[00:44:57]  I do remember that.
[00:44:57]  He had a good little run.
[00:45:00]  His striking was elite.
[00:45:02]  Yeah.
[00:45:02]  And when he fought Neil Magni, Neil Magni's a tough fucking dude, man.
[00:45:07]  Durable guy.
[00:45:08]  Durable, incredible discipline and endurance.
[00:45:10]  Like that dude's never out of shape.
[00:45:12]  And he was just getting tuned.
[00:45:13]  Look at this.
[00:45:14]  Oof.
[00:45:15]  I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to the ribs.
[00:45:18]  That one there, he just hit his arm and knocked him down with it.
[00:45:21]  But earlier before that, he caught him on the ribcage with a spot.
[00:45:25]  Look at that.
[00:45:26]  Bro, that's crazy.
[00:45:27]  He gave him a spot again.
[00:45:29]  That's the second look at it.
[00:45:30]  But right here, you're seeing him.
[00:45:32]  He's blasting him with this kick that nobody throws like that.
[00:45:36]  That's a crazy position to put your hips in.
[00:45:39]  Right?
[00:45:40]  That is crazy.
[00:45:41]  Bro, he was sharp.
[00:45:42]  How did this one end?
[00:45:43]  He stopped him.
[00:45:44]  Oh, did he?
[00:45:45]  Yeah.
[00:45:46]  Oh, shit.
[00:45:47]  Yeah, Lorenz was all over him, man.
[00:45:49]  It was one of the prime performances that I've seen him fight.
[00:45:55]  Yeah, he had a good little run.
[00:45:56]  He had a great run.
[00:45:57]  But during that run, and this is like, he came from Bellator, right?
[00:46:00]  Yeah.
[00:46:01]  Yeah, and when he came over from Bellator, it was like he was still red hot.
[00:46:04]  Yeah.
[00:46:04]  Red hot.
[00:46:07]  Yeah.
[00:46:08]  Two guys that were in Bellator, which is Pitbull and Aaron Pico.
[00:46:13]  They're getting ready to fight this weekend.
[00:46:15]  How much time do you think a guy like Pico is supposed to take off after Lerone?
[00:46:20]  We were just talking about that.
[00:46:21]  Because I love his offense, man.
[00:46:23]  He's a little raging bull.
[00:46:24]  Animal.
[00:46:25]  And strong, powerful.
[00:46:26]  He just got caught.
[00:46:28]  And he got caught perfect.
[00:46:29]  And he was just perfect.
[00:46:30]  That's spinning out.
[00:46:31]  I think he got stopped more.
[00:46:32]  Did he get stopped more than once with a bad knockout like that?
[00:46:35]  Yeah.
[00:46:36]  His first fight ever.
[00:46:36]  You don't want to go through your career with a bad knockout.
[00:46:38]  The kid from Killcliffe.
[00:46:41]  Adam Burke.
[00:46:42]  Yeah.
[00:46:42]  Adam Burke's.
[00:46:43]  Yeah, he got him with a flying knee.
[00:46:44]  With a flying knee, yeah.
[00:46:45]  Damn, dude.
[00:46:46]  You don't want too many of those.
[00:46:47]  That's right.
[00:46:48]  But those put him out, man.
[00:46:50]  You just see him just go boop.
[00:46:51]  Yeah.
[00:46:52]  That Macy Barba one the other day.
[00:46:54]  Whoa.
[00:46:55]  That was just.
[00:46:56]  One of the greatest finishes in women's MMA history.
[00:46:58]  Oh, no doubt.
[00:46:59]  I wanted to reach out to Macy because I felt so bad.
[00:47:02]  I wanted to reach out to the doctor and say, what the fuck do you think?
[00:47:04]  He's just over like poking him with a fucking bitch.
[00:47:08]  So crazy.
[00:47:09]  Yeah.
[00:47:11]  I'm like, get some smell.
[00:47:12]  I'm like, somebody, the cameraman, please get off this, or somebody talk to the doctor, because I don't know what the fuck.
[00:47:19]  He was just over, like, man, this is fucked up.
[00:47:21]  I don't think he knew exactly what was going on.
[00:47:23]  He probably has no experience in combat sports, right?
[00:47:26]  He didn't realize that she got knocked out, and while she was out cold, she got strangled.
[00:47:31]  She transitioned so fast.
[00:47:33]  Like, she's out there, she's out cold already, and then she gets strangled.
[00:47:37]  Like, that's never happened before.
[00:47:39]  What's crazy is she was.
[00:47:40]  Look at the way he keeps his head up.
[00:47:42]  Kind of still reacting.
[00:47:42]  And then when they put her on her back, she just, it was.
[00:47:45]  Well, she went limp as she was trying to sit up.
[00:47:48]  She went limp.
[00:47:49]  You see right there.
[00:47:50]  Like she was trying to get up.
[00:47:51]  And then as the guy has his arm around her, she goes limp.
[00:47:56]  Dude.
[00:47:56]  See, there's like, there's C-level Kane and then there's Southpaw Alexa.
[00:48:01]  When she fights Southpaw, man, she is dangerous.
[00:48:03]  Then there's a confused doctor.
[00:48:05]  Look at him.
[00:48:07]  Right.
[00:48:08]  No, I've seen this before.
[00:48:10]  Crazy.
[00:48:11]  Look at him.
[00:48:11]  Right.
[00:48:11]  He's like, you crazy.
[00:48:12]  It's just, well, she's kind of coming to there, I think.
[00:48:15]  She's blinking.
[00:48:16]  But that was just, holy shit.
[00:48:18]  And the speed that she took her back.
[00:48:20]  She hit her.
[00:48:21]  Left hand, boop, back, choked.
[00:48:23]  Amazing.
[00:48:24]  One shot while she was out still, cracked her again, got her back and choked her, all like a lightning bolt.
[00:48:30]  That was super amazing.
[00:48:31]  But that's the same combination she hit Valentina with when she finished her.
[00:48:34]  I feel like it took five minutes with us sitting there.
[00:48:36]  Left hand, boom, took her back.
[00:48:39]  It took her longer, but look at this.
[00:48:44]  So she's in trouble.
[00:48:46]  Bam!
[00:48:46]  Right there.
[00:48:46]  Out cold and then strangled.
[00:48:49]  I don't think that combination of out cold and then strangled has ever happened before.
[00:48:53]  No.
[00:48:54]  Because, I mean, she's seen what this punch here is.
[00:48:56]  Out cold, right?
[00:48:57]  And then boom.
[00:49:00]  Sick.
[00:49:00]  No, that's crazy.
[00:49:03]  Crazy.
[00:49:05]  Wow.
[00:49:05]  She's tough, man.
[00:49:08]  Oh, man.
[00:49:08]  She'll fall backwards in front of you after the knockdown.
[00:49:12]  Well, so here's the thing.
[00:49:13]  She gets up.
[00:49:14]  And when she gets up, I think she faints.
[00:49:17]  Like, I think she tries to get up.
[00:49:18]  Just swinging again.
[00:49:19]  And then he, Mike puts his arm around her, and she's out.
[00:49:24]  I think she fainted.
[00:49:25]  That's just scary.
[00:49:26]  That's scary.
[00:49:27]  And she also had had some problems before with seizures.
[00:49:31]  Yeah.
[00:49:32]  She had to pull out of that fight with Aaron Blanchfield.
[00:49:34]  She had a seizure in the locker room.
[00:49:36]  So they still allow her to fight even though she's had seizures?
[00:49:40]  That's pretty crazy.
[00:49:41]  It depends on what's causing the seizures, right?
[00:49:43]  If they know it's a medication that she was on, they get her off the medication.
[00:49:46]  I don't know what caused the seizures.
[00:49:48]  Well, that's just not going to help the seizures.
[00:49:50]  It certainly wouldn't make me enthusiastic about fighting.
[00:49:54]  It would have to fuck with your motivation if you're already having seizures.
[00:49:58]  I wouldn't want to do it.
[00:50:00]  Now, after that, I wouldn't want to do it.
[00:50:03]  Anytime you fight, that's a possibility.
[00:50:06]  I mean, look at a guy who never once took anything remotely like that, like Kamara Usman.
[00:50:13]  And even in a fight where he's just doing so great, and then that's the closest thing I've seen to that, which is when he got stopped with that head kick.
[00:50:21]  And that's a possibility anytime you make that walk.
[00:50:25]  That's why you got that fucking little feeling in your throat before you walk out there.
[00:50:31]  The Kamara one was nuts too because John Annick was just saying because DC was like a lot of people would quit in this situation.
[00:50:39]  And John Annick said something along the lines of, but that is not the cloth from which you're cut.
[00:50:43]  I know.
[00:50:44]  And then, I mean, that was like the most perfect timing ever.
[00:50:48]  Ever.
[00:50:48]  Like a movie.
[00:50:49]  Like, if you saw that in a movie, like, shut up.
[00:50:52]  Because I just came in and was like, yeah, I think he's broke.
[00:50:55]  And then DC was saying it.
[00:50:57]  And then John intervened with, he's not cut from that cloth.
[00:51:00]  And boom.
[00:51:01]  Head kick.
[00:51:02]  It was nuts.
[00:51:03]  What is that new?
[00:51:04]  Nuts.
[00:51:04]  Russell Crowe's doing a new MMA movie.
[00:51:06]  Beast.
[00:51:06]  Yeah.
[00:51:08]  Is that supposed to be the UFC?
[00:51:09]  No, it's supposed to be the UFC.
[00:51:10]  Yeah, it's supposed to be the UFC.
[00:51:12]  I think they did it with one.
[00:51:13]  Yeah.
[00:51:13]  Yeah, I wonder if that's going to be.
[00:51:15]  Yeah, but I mean, the fighter is my age.
[00:51:18]  I'm like, yo, what's going on here?
[00:51:20]  Coming back.
[00:51:21]  Like Randy Couture won the title in his 40s.
[00:51:24]  You know?
[00:51:24]  Yeah, man.
[00:51:25]  One has some wild striking fights, man.
[00:51:28]  Some of the absolute best stand up fights in the world are happening on one.
[00:51:32]  I watch it all the time.
[00:51:33]  I never know when that shit.
[00:51:35]  Yeah, what is that on?
[00:51:35]  Where do you watch this?
[00:51:36]  There's this fucking cat out of Dagestan.
[00:51:38]  Do you guys know I'm talking about?
[00:51:39]  Asadullah Iman Ghazaliyev?
[00:51:42]  Bro.
[00:51:43]  This dude is, I think he's 135 pounds.
[00:51:47]  I think that's what he fights at.
[00:51:48]  And he's like 6'1.
[00:51:50]  And just a laser beam striker.
[00:51:53]  It just fucks people up.
[00:51:55]  Like, literally, he might be the best striker in the world.
[00:51:57]  Is it just kickboxing?
[00:51:58]  Yeah, and he's getting in there with Muay Thai.
[00:52:00]  He's getting in there with world Muay Thai champions and KOing them.
[00:52:05]  Like three time world Lumpini Muay Thai champions.
[00:52:09]  Damn.
[00:52:09]  Lumpini Stadium guys.
[00:52:11]  This guy is a fucking straight killer, dude.
[00:52:13]  And he's from Dagestan and he can wrestle.
[00:52:16]  Damn.
[00:52:16]  You got it.
[00:52:17]  Let's see if you can find like a highlight reel of his KOs.
[00:52:20]  Cause this is just like, get on YouTube.
[00:52:22]  That fighting shot was nasty.
[00:52:24]  I watch this cat every time he fights.
[00:52:26]  I just can't.
[00:52:27]  He's so fucking accurate and he's so slick.
[00:52:30]  How old is he?
[00:52:31]  He's 22.
[00:52:32]  Oh, damn.
[00:52:33]  Yeah, man.
[00:52:34]  I'm telling you.
[00:52:35]  22 year old cat from Dagestan might be the best striker on earth right now.
[00:52:40]  This dude is so impressive.
[00:52:42]  And I'm telling you, he's doing this to do to our world champions.
[00:52:46]  Oh, he's taking out world champion kickboxers, world champion Muay Thai fighters.
[00:52:52]  They're putting him in there with these fucking assassins, and he's making them all go night night.
[00:52:57]  Oh, damn.
[00:52:58]  Oh.
[00:52:59]  Bro, you got to see it in real speed.
[00:53:01]  Like, you see his real movements.
[00:53:03]  It's so impressive.
[00:53:04]  Is he with Habib and Emma though?
[00:53:06]  I don't know where he's training out of, but he's from Dagestan.
[00:53:10]  Bro.
[00:53:10]  He looks like Zabete.
[00:53:12]  Yes.
[00:53:13]  Like a little bit more robust Zabete.
[00:53:17]  But it's like it's different.
[00:53:18]  Like Zabid had more of a you know, he had an incredible style, but it was almost like more taekwondo ish.
[00:53:24]  This guy's pure Muay Thai, but he just fucks people up, man.
[00:53:27]  Accurate, too.
[00:53:28]  Oh, he's spinning heel kicks, everything.
[00:53:30]  Knees, the body.
[00:53:31]  But it's the combinations, the way he's throwing them.
[00:53:34]  He just finds these openings on people with this precision that you're like, motherfucker, man.
[00:53:40]  It keeps the pressure on.
[00:53:41]  He keeps the pressure on, too.
[00:53:43]  He's just flatlining folks one after another, flatlining people.
[00:53:47]  Oh, man.
[00:53:48]  Bro, he's very fucking impressive.
[00:53:50]  And again, very impressive against world championship caliber Muay Thai fighters.
[00:53:55]  These are not scrubs that he's fighting.
[00:53:57]  Damn.
[00:53:58]  And one's putting these fights on all the time.
[00:54:00]  And I was trying to tell Dana this.
[00:54:01]  I was like, if you guys had like UFC striking, do you know how fucking exciting that would be?
[00:54:07]  If just Muay Thai with MMA gloves on.
[00:54:09]  Well, they should do that.
[00:54:12]  They do 100%.
[00:54:13]  They're missing out on a giant opportunity because how many people boo when a fight goes to the ground?
[00:54:18]  Boo.
[00:54:19]  These guys never go to the ground.
[00:54:21]  Right.
[00:54:21]  It's just all so much more brutal than boxing.
[00:54:25]  Way more brutal.
[00:54:26]  Yeah.
[00:54:26]  It just didn't get a fair shake in America.
[00:54:28]  Yeah, I know.
[00:54:29]  It's not that it's not exciting, it's the most exciting aspect of the UFC.
[00:54:32]  Other than a great submission like Alexa Grasso after a knockout, that's like the most exciting.
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[00:55:33]  I could.
[00:55:34]  People bitch about Kamzat.
[00:55:36]  I could watch him do that to Drakis all day long.
[00:55:38]  I don't give a shit.
[00:55:39]  That's masterful.
[00:55:40]  Masterful.
[00:55:41]  Get him off you.
[00:55:42]  I know.
[00:55:42]  Get up.
[00:55:43]  People are like, oh, that's a shame, and he doesn't take chances.
[00:55:45]  Dude, get.
[00:55:46]  He's not like he's not trying to beat the shit out of him.
[00:55:48]  He's getting him tied up, and he's beating him up, and he's just.
[00:55:51]  He's working him over.
[00:55:52]  I mean, what do you want him to stand up in the crucifix?
[00:55:55]  What are you talking about here?
[00:55:56]  Yeah, I mean, that's Drekus' problem.
[00:55:58]  Drekus needs to get him.
[00:56:00]  Yeah, 100%.
[00:56:00]  And I don't believe in stand ups at all, period.
[00:56:03]  I think the only time you should stand up is someone fouls.
[00:56:06]  If someone does a foul and then you have to stand up, take a point away from them, maybe then you stand them up.
[00:56:11]  Yeah.
[00:56:12]  You shouldn't reward a guy for having shit defense.
[00:56:15]  If the dude on the bottom is the one that fouled, put them back where they were.
[00:56:19]  Don't reward them.
[00:56:19]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:20]  Right, right, right.
[00:56:21]  Yeah, definitely.
[00:56:23]  But other than that, why are you letting people stand up?
[00:56:25]  Why?
[00:56:26]  Guy had to work so hard to get him to the ground.
[00:56:28]  Maybe he's taking a break for a couple seconds to catch his breath.
[00:56:31]  Yeah.
[00:56:31]  You know, like, what the fuck do you want?
[00:56:33]  Yeah.
[00:56:33]  Figure out how to get up.
[00:56:34]  Yeah.
[00:56:35]  Bottom people just have to be better.
[00:56:36]  Also, you know how to fix that?
[00:56:38]  Here's how you fix that knees to the head to a down to pop.
[00:56:41]  Absolutely.
[00:56:41]  Absolutely.
[00:56:42]  And then it's like, it's all out of the.
[00:56:44]  Wrestlers, then wrestlers become super fucking dangerous.
[00:56:47]  Yeah, man, Mark Coleman won the Grand Prix with that shit.
[00:56:49]  Didn't you see the smashing machine?
[00:56:51]  Yeah, bro.
[00:56:51]  Did you like the smashing machine?
[00:56:53]  I did.
[00:56:54]  It was good.
[00:56:54]  I did.
[00:56:55]  I enjoyed it.
[00:56:55]  I thought the rock was amazing.
[00:56:56]  I thought his acting, you didn't think it was the rock.
[00:57:00]  I haven't seen it yet.
[00:57:02]  You thought it was Mark Kerr.
[00:57:03]  He even got a forehead thing.
[00:57:04]  Yeah.
[00:57:05]  He got rubber put on his forehead or whatever the fuck it is.
[00:57:08]  Give him a little.
[00:57:08]  Yeah, make him more Neanderthal.
[00:57:10]  A little Cro-Magnon.
[00:57:11]  Give him a little Frankenstein for his.
[00:57:13]  It was almost.
[00:57:14]  Scene by scene, it was almost like the same, pretty much the same exact thing as the documentary.
[00:57:19]  It was really good.
[00:57:20]  The documentary, it's like the same shots, the same story.
[00:57:25]  So if you've seen the documentary, which was great.
[00:57:27]  Yeah, seen it.
[00:57:27]  Kurt was a great guest.
[00:57:29]  I had him in the podcast.
[00:57:30]  He was fun.
[00:57:32]  He was a really cool guest.
[00:57:33]  No kidding.
[00:57:34]  Yeah, he was really fun.
[00:57:35]  And just real intelligent, like easy to talk to.
[00:57:37]  Like, where does he live now?
[00:57:39]  I see him like.
[00:57:40]  Is it Arizona?
[00:57:41]  Bro, I saw him in early UFCs when I was a backstage interviewer.
[00:57:46]  He submitted Dan Bobish with his chin to his eyes.
[00:57:48]  I remember that.
[00:57:50]  I remember that too.
[00:57:51]  It was crazy.
[00:57:52]  I remember when he came on the scene, well, the UFC scene with the old Ranger Stott needed a face.
[00:58:00]  I remember Rip Rules while we were about to find out Morty Heinstein or something like that.
[00:58:06]  The karate.
[00:58:06]  Morty Heinstein.
[00:58:08]  I don't know, man.
[00:58:09]  My favorite Mark Kerr fight was against Fabio Giorgio down in Brazil.
[00:58:12]  That was crazy.
[00:58:13]  That's where he got his name.
[00:58:14]  Yeah, man.
[00:58:14]  That's.
[00:58:15]  That's my shit.
[00:58:17]  Look, I was a big Fabio fan, and like, I mean, if you can't have respect for that guy after that beating he took, and he never fucking thought about quitting.
[00:58:26]  Crazy.
[00:58:27]  Yeah, headbutts and everything.
[00:58:28]  Who said yes to that?
[00:58:31]  Yeah, right?
[00:58:31]  Let me pull you guys aside.
[00:58:33]  They'll explain physics.
[00:58:35]  And now I need to introduce you to steroids.
[00:58:38]  That was the combined physics and steroids.
[00:58:41]  And like, no, you're not fighting Mark Kirk.
[00:58:44]  If you look at the time, that's when Jiu Jitsu still had that mystique about it, though.
[00:58:47]  It's true.
[00:58:47]  You know, true.
[00:58:48]  Back When they weren't looking at it.
[00:58:50]  But that kind of killed.
[00:58:50]  But that's when the beginning of the end of the guard started for MMA.
[00:58:55]  It was like that.
[00:58:56]  Because those big wrestlers were just like, oh, you mean all I got to do is block his hips and I can headshot you?
[00:59:01]  Yeah, right.
[00:59:01]  After that fight, yeah.
[00:59:03]  Do you remember when Mario Sperry fought Igor Zinoviev?
[00:59:06]  Oh, yeah.
[00:59:07]  So Mario Sperry is one of the first jiu-jitsu black belts to lose in MMA.
[00:59:12]  That's right.
[00:59:12]  Yes.
[00:59:13]  Because we all thought jiu-jitsu black belts were invincible.
[00:59:16]  And Mario Sperry was elite.
[00:59:17]  He was a really good black belt.
[00:59:19]  Yeah.
[00:59:19]  And so he fought Zinoviev, and Zinoviev stopped him.
[00:59:23]  I remember that, yeah.
[00:59:24]  And Mario was doing everything right, mounting him correctly.
[00:59:27]  But then he would just do one of those weird, like, super big bridges.
[00:59:31]  And then his, because he had endurance and he was able to just withstand his attack, he ended up cutting him or something towards the end.
[00:59:38]  Yeah, it was a big cut.
[00:59:39]  They stopped it from a cut, right?
[00:59:40]  Speaking of old school guys, guess who was at the UFC last week?
[00:59:43]  Murillo Bustamante.
[00:59:44]  Oh, yes.
[00:59:46]  He was quarterbacked.
[00:59:47]  Yeah, Jose Delano.
[00:59:47]  He made him tap twice.
[00:59:49]  Yes.
[00:59:49]  The world title defense.
[00:59:50]  At the end.
[00:59:50]  He made him tap twice.
[00:59:51]  Yeah.
[00:59:52]  He also fought 45-bit.
[00:59:53]  He fought.
[00:59:54]  Tom Erickson.
[00:59:55]  Tom Erickson.
[00:59:56]  Remember that?
[00:59:56]  Oh, yeah.
[00:59:57]  I thought Chirillo beat Chuck Liddell, too.
[01:00:00]  Honestly, in that fight.
[01:00:01]  He might have, yeah.
[01:00:03]  He was a bad motherfucker.
[01:00:05]  He was really good at boxing and insane at jiu-jitsu, but really good at boxing.
[01:00:09]  One of the first guys from that Carlson Gracie team, along with good wrestling.
[01:00:12]  Good wrestler, too.
[01:00:13]  He had good takedowns for a jiu-jitsu guy, too.
[01:00:16]  But that's my point.
[01:00:17]  He's at the UFC just cornering Jose Delano, and no one knows who he is.
[01:00:22]  And I'm like, yo, I need to give a lesson on this guy.
[01:00:25]  He's one of my favorite fighters of all time, but no one knows who he is.
[01:00:29]  That's crazy.
[01:00:30]  He's a legend.
[01:00:31]  But you know, there's so many people now, it's like time just goes on.
[01:00:35]  What a bunch of killers Carlson had.
[01:00:37]  Back in the day, man.
[01:00:39]  Dude, I remember his school in '96 when all that was going down.
[01:00:44]  When right before Vitor got into jiu-jitsu.
[01:00:47]  Sperry, Laborio, Carlo Barreto.
[01:00:49]  Yeah, Carlo was trained there.
[01:00:51]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:00:52]  Sergio Cohen.
[01:00:53]  He had a bunch of beasts, man.
[01:00:55]  And we'd watch them all train together.
[01:00:57]  Mario Sperry was telling us a story about how when he was just starting out in jiu-jitsu, he made his girlfriend sit there and he just put her in triangle after triangle after triangle.

=== Paul Sass Weight Class (14:48) ===

[01:01:07]  She kept complaining.
[01:01:09]  It was just.
[01:01:10]  That's terrible.
[01:01:11]  Watching TV, just practicing triangles on his girlface.
[01:01:16]  We were lucky to, we were talking last night about how fortunate we were to come up when we did, you know, and like even back at, at Henso's, man, you had Henso, you had Hyan coming through, you had Half coming through, you had Matt, you had Ricardo, you had Sean Alvarez, like we just had a ton of killers, you know, and back then it was, I always joke about the tap out shit, but if you saw somebody in an airport in the 90s with a tap out shirt on, you were like, Where you train.
[01:01:45]  Then it went to like JC fucking pennies, which is cool because it was.
[01:01:49]  Yeah, it's at Forever 21.
[01:01:53]  But it was pretty wild.
[01:01:54]  I had some tap out charts.
[01:01:56]  Everybody did.
[01:01:57]  Right.
[01:01:58]  Those guys were fun.
[01:01:59]  Yeah, definitely.
[01:02:00]  It was a weird time.
[01:02:01]  That time of MMA, if you go back to like, even when you and I first met, it was like, what year was that?
[01:02:08]  2001, we met.
[01:02:09]  Crazy.
[01:02:10]  That's crazy.
[01:02:11]  Because you weren't a commentator yet, but I thought Kelly DeLante.
[01:02:14]  And you gave me a nice shout out.
[01:02:16]  I remember.
[01:02:16]  We need more of that jungle jujitsu like Matt Sarah did.
[01:02:18]  When you toured at Bios.
[01:02:19]  And I'm like, oh!
[01:02:20]  They showed that up.
[01:02:22]  Yeah, that's funny.
[01:02:24]  Yeah, that was 2001.
[01:02:26]  Because I mailed you a shirt.
[01:02:28]  Thank you.
[01:02:28]  And then you called the academy.
[01:02:29]  And I'm like, oh, what's up?
[01:02:31]  That was funny, man.
[01:02:32]  Nice.
[01:02:32]  It's crazy.
[01:02:33]  But jujitsu was so physical then.
[01:02:35]  Like, it was a physical thing.
[01:02:37]  Now it's so intellectual.
[01:02:38]  And, like, these nerds think they own it.
[01:02:40]  Autistic kids got all jujitsu.
[01:02:42]  And now they think they own it.
[01:02:44]  And now they think they own it.
[01:02:46]  And it's like, yo, what are you talking about?
[01:02:47]  They start talking about tech.
[01:02:49]  It's like they're talking chess moves.
[01:02:51]  Yeah.
[01:02:51]  If you don't know the name, then he's like, You don't know that?
[01:02:54]  It's like, dude, I know that.
[01:02:57]  When you're going for the.
[01:02:59]  They call it the K guard.
[01:03:00]  I'm like, Shit, man, I've been doing that since the 90s, man.
[01:03:03]  At first, I'm like, Well, what's the.
[01:03:04]  They're like, You don't know the K guard?
[01:03:06]  Then they show it.
[01:03:06]  I go, Well, yeah, I just never called it the fucking K guard.
[01:03:10]  But it's funny, you bring up Murillo Bustamante.
[01:03:13]  We talked about Fabio Gagel.
[01:03:14]  Back then, and I know Jiu Jitsu evolved, but if you take those guys, you put them in the Abu Dhabi submission tournament, you put them in.
[01:03:21]  The BJJ, IBJJF, and you put them in an MMA fight, their jujitsu is the same.
[01:03:27]  It carries over to all.
[01:03:29]  And they may not win, but they're competitive.
[01:03:31]  And they can't have it across the board where someone who's used to scissoring, just used to the legs, you know what I mean?
[01:03:43]  That can transfer over.
[01:03:45]  Here's what fucks my head up.
[01:03:47]  If you gunned to my head, said to me, Who do you think has the best jujitsu in MMA right now?
[01:03:55]  My head would go, Charles Oliver.
[01:03:59]  I was getting ready to go.
[01:04:00]  Charles Oliver would be my gun.
[01:04:01]  But Islam Makachev finished him on the ground.
[01:04:04]  So how can I say that?
[01:04:06]  Right?
[01:04:06]  So it fucks my head up because I'm like, if you think about elite expressions of jujitsu on the ground, like one of the most dangerous guys off his back, Oliver.
[01:04:14]  Oliver is so dangerous everywhere.
[01:04:15]  If he gets on top of you, you're fucked.
[01:04:17]  I mean, it was just that Max Holloway's defense is so tight.
[01:04:21]  And he's so tough that he didn't get finished.
[01:04:24]  Right.
[01:04:24]  Why?
[01:04:24]  Dudes would have been at him that far.
[01:04:26]  How crazy it was that he was able to just manhandle him and take him down.
[01:04:29]  I mean, Max, nobody took Max down like that.
[01:04:31]  He manhandled him.
[01:04:32]  It was bananas.
[01:04:33]  But I think Max is a guy that is like, he can fight at 45.
[01:04:37]  I think it was really hard when he went up to 55 and then went down to 45.
[01:04:41]  But at 45, in his prime, it was a perfect weight class for him.
[01:04:46]  When Oliveira was fighting at 45, he was killing himself.
[01:04:49]  He just was fatigued easier.
[01:04:52]  But then when he went up to 55, then he became Charles Oliveira.
[01:04:56]  You know, it was really all at 55 where he made his mark.
[01:04:59]  He tried that shit, though, with Ilya.
[01:05:00]  He did try to take him down, and he tried that.
[01:05:03]  Yeah, Ilya is a different animal.
[01:05:06]  Yeah, he's on another level.
[01:05:07]  For sure.
[01:05:07]  He's on another level.
[01:05:09]  Super well rounded, and people haven't really even seen that yet.
[01:05:12]  He's on a level where I can't wait for his next fights.
[01:05:15]  Like, when he's fighting, I'm like, what is he going to do now?
[01:05:17]  Yeah.
[01:05:18]  Like, what is.
[01:05:19]  Because I think he's getting better.
[01:05:21]  I think it's not just.
[01:05:22]  I think the dude is like, Their approach to it, there's a documentary on YouTube about what they're talking about how they break down all their fight camps and what they're doing and the different stuff that they train in.
[01:05:33]  These dudes are on another level.
[01:05:34]  I mean, when you think about it, if a fight between Ilya and Islam were to happen, think about the magnitude of that not only just star power, but just in terms of skill.
[01:05:44]  Oh, my God.
[01:05:45]  Breaking that down in terms of skill.
[01:05:47]  Oh, my God.
[01:05:48]  Two of the best skilled fighters of all time.
[01:05:50]  Of all time.
[01:05:51]  Yeah.
[01:05:51]  That would be an insane fight.
[01:05:53]  And I just really would like it.
[01:05:55]  If it happened to be at 55, like Iliad 170 is a good thing.
[01:05:58]  Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[01:05:59]  55 would be better.
[01:06:00]  Because Islam at 170 is probably walking around a buck 96.
[01:06:05]  Yeah, for sure.
[01:06:06]  Fucking jacked.
[01:06:07]  I think Armin should be spoken about too.
[01:06:11]  100%.
[01:06:11]  Yeah.
[01:06:12]  Look at how he fought.
[01:06:12]  100%.
[01:06:12]  He had a pretty good fight with Islam back when he, how many years ago?
[01:06:17]  He was like 21.
[01:06:18]  Yeah.
[01:06:19]  He was, I mean, scrambled.
[01:06:20]  Although I do have to say, if the scoring was correct, I think, I think Oliveira would have beat him in that fight because Oliveira threatened him with submissions.
[01:06:29]  That is true.
[01:06:30]  A couple times.
[01:06:31]  That's true.
[01:06:32]  A couple times.
[01:06:32]  Like, that to me is more valuable than holding a guy down.
[01:06:36]  Did Armin threaten he had an arm choke with him?
[01:06:39]  No.
[01:06:40]  He was kind of on the run, but he was kind of on the run more often than we remember.
[01:06:45]  Armin was?
[01:06:46]  Yeah.
[01:06:46]  In terms of, like, inside the guard of Oliveira.
[01:06:49]  Yeah.
[01:06:49]  Like, he was kind of, you know, he was on the run.
[01:06:51]  It's dangerous in there, man.
[01:06:52]  It's not like everybody else is.
[01:06:54]  Like, there's only a few guys like him and, you know, Paul Craig.
[01:06:58]  Bro, Paul Craig could latch on a fucking triangle.
[01:07:00]  Like, that guy's beating world champions.
[01:07:02]  You think about it.
[01:07:03]  He beat Jamal, broke his arm.
[01:07:05]  He beat Jamal, he beat Uncle Laius.
[01:07:07]  Uncle Laius.
[01:07:08]  Stopped him with like one second to go in the third round with a triangle.
[01:07:11]  Yeah.
[01:07:12]  He might have one of the best triangles.
[01:07:14]  What was that one dude from back in the day that won all his fights by triangle?
[01:07:19]  Dustin, uh.
[01:07:20]  No, English guy.
[01:07:21]  Yeah, um.
[01:07:22]  I know exactly who you're talking about.
[01:07:24]  Oh, my God, it's going to drive me nuts.
[01:07:25]  The little skinny English guy.
[01:07:26]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:07:27]  He, like, was all triangles.
[01:07:28]  He was like 11 triangles in a row.
[01:07:29]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:07:30]  He had this one move, and if he can get you to the ground and latch his legs around you, you're a Fuxville.
[01:07:34]  Oh, my God.
[01:07:35]  Paul Sass.
[01:07:35]  Yeah, Paul Sass.
[01:07:36]  Paul Sass.
[01:07:37]  I was going to Paul Sass.
[01:07:38]  Shout out to Paul Sass.
[01:07:40]  Yeah, he was a beast.
[01:07:41]  You get you in that triangle, you're fucked.
[01:07:43]  And Fabericio Redooms, another one, right?
[01:07:45]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:07:46]  I mean, he triangled Fedor.
[01:07:49]  I remember.
[01:07:49]  Fedor was Fedor.
[01:07:51]  I always tell people, if you want to look at the one I have.
[01:07:53]  All time greats in heavyweight.
[01:07:54]  Don't look at all losses and shit.
[01:07:56]  Stop right here in the prime.
[01:07:59]  Who has tapped out more legends than Fabricio Verdum?
[01:08:02]  Minotauro?
[01:08:04]  Fedor?
[01:08:05]  I mean, that is crazy.
[01:08:06]  Just those two?
[01:08:07]  Cain Velasquez?
[01:08:08]  That's true.
[01:08:09]  He's tapped out all the legends.
[01:08:10]  That's true.
[01:08:11]  And they weren't past their prime either.
[01:08:14]  Fedor was securely in his prime.
[01:08:17]  100%.
[01:08:18]  I remember watching that live thinking, oh my God.
[01:08:20]  Oh my God.
[01:08:21]  He ran right into it.
[01:08:22]  He ran right into that.
[01:08:24]  He did jump into it.
[01:08:25]  Brilliant.
[01:08:26]  His jujitsu was like scary off his back.
[01:08:28]  Yeah, Fedor had no respect for the guard.
[01:08:30]  Just, you know, was trying to take his head off and just fed it to him.
[01:08:34]  Yeah, man.
[01:08:35]  You can't do that with a guy like that.
[01:08:36]  Not a guy like that.
[01:08:37]  That's a different level.
[01:08:39]  And plus, he hit Kobe in the head with a boomerang.
[01:08:41]  Remember that?
[01:08:42]  There's nothing wrong with that.
[01:08:44]  Give me some points for that as well.
[01:08:46]  That was my favorite video of all time.
[01:08:47]  Because he hit him with the boomerang and then the bag, and Kobe was reaching out for the bag.
[01:08:51]  Yeah.
[01:08:51]  You got to give him some points for that, too.
[01:08:53]  Out of all the people that I thought I was definitely going to see on the White House lawn.
[01:08:56]  It was going to be a Colby Covington fight.
[01:08:58]  I was like, how did you not have a Colby Covington fight at the White House?
[01:09:03]  Man, I don't know.
[01:09:04]  He's like super supportive of Trump, wears Trump hats everywhere.
[01:09:06]  Right?
[01:09:07]  And he's not a fight for Trump.
[01:09:08]  They didn't get him fixed up?
[01:09:08]  They didn't hook him up?
[01:09:09]  I don't know.
[01:09:10]  How did that not happen?
[01:09:11]  I think Bo Nickel wanted to fight him.
[01:09:13]  Yeah, but that's a different weight class.
[01:09:15]  Bo Nickel's a big dude.
[01:09:17]  He's an 85er.
[01:09:18]  Yeah.
[01:09:20]  That's a, you know, Colby's not a big 70.
[01:09:23]  Is he something I can do?
[01:09:24]  He's a great size for somebody?
[01:09:25]  Yeah.
[01:09:26]  No.
[01:09:26]  No.
[01:09:27]  Just why I'm into that grabbing match with him.
[01:09:29]  Yeah, that's going to be interesting.
[01:09:30]  Yeah, I think Chris is a little big for him.
[01:09:32]  Yeah, I think that should go well for Wild.
[01:09:34]  Who is Joaquin fighting next?
[01:09:36]  Brady.
[01:09:37]  Sean Brady.
[01:09:38]  Sean Brady.
[01:09:38]  Is that in Miami?
[01:09:39]  No, that's in Jersey.
[01:09:41]  Isn't it?
[01:09:41]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:09:42]  I'll be out in Philly next week with Brady.
[01:09:44]  Shout out.
[01:09:45]  Joaquin was on a tear until Camaro got a hold of him.
[01:09:48]  Shout out to Brady.
[01:09:49]  That's one of his shirts.
[01:09:50]  Out of the two guys that are most worthy for a shot at the welterweight title, I mean, you've got to think Ian Gary, but you also got to think Camaro because he doesn't have much time left and he's a legend.
[01:10:03]  Right?
[01:10:03]  One of the greatest welterweights of all time.
[01:10:05]  And then he just beats Joaquin Buckley like that?
[01:10:08]  I mean, like, Joaquin Buckley is a fucking monster.
[01:10:11]  Buckley was on the fast rise to a point.
[01:10:14]  Now he's Wonderboy.
[01:10:15]  Now Wonderboy's the best.
[01:10:16]  He beat the shit out of Colby.
[01:10:17]  Yeah.
[01:10:17]  Bro.
[01:10:17]  The shit out of Colby.
[01:10:18]  Bro, beat the shit out of him.
[01:10:19]  But Joaquin doesn't get tired either, which is crazy.
[01:10:21]  Like, you look at his physique.
[01:10:23]  Yeah, you think that's how he gets tired.
[01:10:26]  He keeps that gas going for three fucking rounds.
[01:10:29]  Full clip.
[01:10:30]  Yeah, believe it or not.
[01:10:31]  I've been watching him.
[01:10:32]  Right?
[01:10:32]  I've been watching him for months now.
[01:10:35]  Nah, Sean Brady, I think.
[01:10:37]  Old turtle shell.
[01:10:38]  Yeah.
[01:10:40]  That back of his is so preposterous.
[01:10:43]  He's staying at that weight, right?
[01:10:44]  Yeah, he's not going down.
[01:10:47]  What about Oldberg and Jiri this weekend?
[01:10:51]  You know what, man?
[01:10:53]  If you're looking at it on paper, if you just watch their movements, Oldberg is really fast.
[01:10:59]  He's really accurate.
[01:11:02]  And he's slick.
[01:11:03]  And he's a big, tall motherfucker with great skills.
[01:11:07]  Yuri creates chaos.
[01:11:11]  And in that chaos, you don't know exactly how someone's going to respond when the guy's still there, when you crack him.
[01:11:16]  And he's all over you and he's doing wild shit.
[01:11:18]  He's got a fucking ponytail at the top of his head.
[01:11:21]  He's a maniac.
[01:11:23]  But he's not faking it.
[01:11:24]  Oh, no.
[01:11:25]  He believes everything he says.
[01:11:27]  That's how that dude really lives.
[01:11:29]  He really does hit trees in the woods.
[01:11:31]  He goes out there with a makiwara.
[01:11:33]  He does all the hard style Japanese shit.
[01:11:37]  He spends time in the woods by himself alone.
[01:11:40]  He swims under the ice.
[01:11:43]  I saw that.
[01:11:44]  I actually saw a video of that.
[01:11:45]  Fuck that, dude.
[01:11:46]  Yeah.
[01:11:47]  I mean, you have to find where the hole is and you just got to come back.
[01:11:50]  We had some people in there too, just in case he didn't that crazy.
[01:11:53]  Hey, dude.
[01:11:54]  Listen, man, just look at that dude.
[01:11:55]  His ancestors came over on a boat with a skull on it and they had fucking swords.
[01:12:02]  And they hopped off and started slicing him up.
[01:12:04]  Hold on, hold on, guys.
[01:12:05]  That dude is a motherfucking Viking.
[01:12:07]  Whatever he is, those warrior jeans, like that's in that.
[01:12:11]  That dude takes you to hell.
[01:12:13]  He just can't do it without it.
[01:12:15]  He guts his way.
[01:12:16]  That's it.
[01:12:16]  That style just doesn't work with Pereira.
[01:12:18]  So that's what I'm wondering.
[01:12:20]  Does he walk into one here?
[01:12:21]  Because he's going to get hit.
[01:12:23]  Khalil beat the living shit out of him for two rounds and then ran out of gas.
[01:12:28]  Oberg's a big guy, too.
[01:12:30]  Khalil's not a big, you know, if you look at him in comparison to some of the other guys in that weight class, he could make 85.
[01:12:38]  Here's one that people are sleeping on Mirza Kanoff.
[01:12:41]  Yeah.
[01:12:43]  Who?
[01:12:44]  I'm leaning Palo's way out of the field.
[01:12:46]  You almost sold me on that yesterday.
[01:12:48]  But Mirza Kanoff, man.
[01:12:51]  Undefeated.
[01:12:51]  Let me tell you something.
[01:12:52]  I'm 37 and fought nobody.
[01:12:54]  I'm riding.
[01:12:55]  Who's he fighting?
[01:12:56]  That's true.
[01:12:57]  He put Rockets to sleep, though.
[01:12:58]  Yeah.
[01:12:59]  He put Rockets to sleep in the first round.
[01:13:01]  Yeah.
[01:13:01]  Dude, he's slick.
[01:13:02]  He does shit in there.
[01:13:03]  I'm like, he calls himself the professional.
[01:13:06]  And that's like, he seems like a hitman, like some Russian hitman that comes to fucking kill people.
[01:13:11]  He believes in his power, that's a fact.
[01:13:13]  It's not just his power, man, it's his skills.
[01:13:15]  When I look at him, I'm like, this is a smart guy.
[01:13:18]  Like, he moves like a smart guy.
[01:13:20]  Everything's calculated, everything's technical.
[01:13:22]  He's really hard to hit clean.
[01:13:24]  He's a slick character.
[01:13:26]  And he does shit too, like, he overreaches, but he overreaches, I think, on purpose to get reads off you.
[01:13:31]  If he senses the guy's moving away, he'll come in with big shots that he doesn't, to try to get you to react and then counter.
[01:13:38]  Like that right hook that he hit him with was almost like a jab that he dropped Rocket with.
[01:13:43]  Just saw this movement that Rocket kept doing over and over again.
[01:13:47]  BANG!
[01:13:48]  Came in with like a straight right jab, almost like a hook jab.
[01:13:52]  Powell, who's got a chin.
[01:13:54]  Look at that.
[01:13:54]  Watch that again.
[01:13:56]  Look how slick this is.
[01:13:58]  Boom!
[01:13:59]  He's a killer, man.
[01:14:00]  We don't know what Paulo Costa's going to look like at 205, though.
[01:14:03]  He's never fought it that way.
[01:14:04]  Well, didn't he once when he didn't make weight for 85 against Marvin Vittorio?
[01:14:08]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:14:09]  He forced Marvin Vittorio.
[01:14:10]  He was like, No, this fight is at 205 now.
[01:14:13]  Remember that yet?
[01:14:14]  Izzy fucked his mind up, I think.
[01:14:16]  He definitely did.
[01:14:17]  But he looked the best he's looked his last fight.
[01:14:19]  He copied all of them.
[01:14:20]  He just ran through them.
[01:14:21]  Dude, you go back to when he was walking people down, like walk down Yoel Romero.
[01:14:26]  Paul Costa was a berserker.
[01:14:28]  I remember when he saluted Yoel Romero in the middle of the fight.
[01:14:31]  That was my favorite part.
[01:14:33]  That was a great fight.
[01:14:35]  But nobody walks down Yoel Romero like that.
[01:14:36]  Yeah, I'm kidding.
[01:14:37]  There's that photo, that one photo of him head kicking Yoel, and Yoel's face is all distorted.
[01:14:43]  And you're like, how did he take that shot?
[01:14:45]  This is his neck.
[01:14:48]  You know, his neck is fused.
[01:14:49]  Yeah.
[01:14:50]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:14:50]  Yeah.
[01:14:51]  It's all one thing, so it doesn't move.
[01:14:52]  It's connected to his skull.
[01:14:54]  That's crazy.
[01:14:55]  Yeah.
[01:14:56]  Isn't that nuts?
[01:14:58]  Look at that.
[01:14:58]  Look at that photo.
[01:15:00]  That photo's bonkers.
[01:15:02]  Imagine how tough you got to be to be Joel Romero and take that to the head when you know your neck has been through an insane operation where you have metal.
[01:15:13]  Connecting the fucking spine of your neck to your head.
[01:15:16]  Sorry, they implanted monster traps to hold his neck.
[01:15:20]  Yeah, they were like, fuck out.
[01:15:22]  He's such a freak.
[01:15:23]  Yeah, he is.
[01:15:23]  He's an athletic freak.
[01:15:25]  And you see, he just fought bare knuckles.
[01:15:26]  Specimen.
[01:15:27]  Yeah.
[01:15:27]  At 49?
[01:15:28]  Yeah.
[01:15:28]  And a lot of people disputed the decision.
[01:15:30]  They thought he should have won.
[01:15:31]  Yeah.
[01:15:33]  In Russia.
[01:15:34]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:15:35]  Yo, Romero, in Russia, don't be able to fight.
[01:15:37]  I don't know how he does it.
[01:15:38]  He looks great.
[01:15:39]  Yeah, I don't know how he does it.
[01:15:40]  If you told me he was 32, I believe you.
[01:15:43]  He did RAF as well.
[01:15:46]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:15:47]  Yeah, who did he beat?
[01:15:48]  Pat Downey.
[01:15:49]  Pat Downey.
[01:15:50]  And then he came back and he had, but he lost the next one.
[01:15:53]  Yeah, but he wrestled a legit dude.

=== Money Private Eye Pokes (15:19) ===

[01:15:56]  Dude, the guy that I'm most impressed with in that is Armin.
[01:16:00]  Oh, I can't believe how good he is as a wrestler.
[01:16:02]  Yeah.
[01:16:03]  Who's the dude he tech-filed?
[01:16:06]  Georgie.
[01:16:06]  No, no, no.
[01:16:08]  Lance.
[01:16:08]  Oh, Lance Palmer.
[01:16:10]  That's the guy.
[01:16:10]  Oh, Lance Palmer.
[01:16:11]  Yeah, Lance Palmer is a legit wrestler.
[01:16:14]  For sure.
[01:16:14]  Lance was like, oh, he's never wrestled at my level.
[01:16:17]  He's never wrestled guys at my level.
[01:16:18]  Armin goes up there and tech-filed.
[01:16:20]  Falls on, bro.
[01:16:21]  Armin did better.
[01:16:22]  Yeah.
[01:16:22]  But even Giorgio, like, you watch those videos that he does?
[01:16:25]  Yeah.
[01:16:25]  It's like $100 to $50,000 or whatever.
[01:16:28]  Whatever it is.
[01:16:28]  Yeah.
[01:16:30]  Armin is a fucking bad man, dude.
[01:16:32]  He's a bad man.
[01:16:33]  I know it.
[01:16:34]  Yeah.
[01:16:34]  If you wanted to fight for Ilya at 55, that's a very interesting fight.
[01:16:39]  100%.
[01:16:39]  Very interesting fight for her.
[01:16:40]  I'm sure.
[01:16:41]  Because he's hard to hit.
[01:16:42]  He's very slick and technical, super flexible.
[01:16:45]  Like, you ever seen those weird mobility exercises he does with twists and shit?
[01:16:50]  I know, yeah.
[01:16:52]  Crazy flexibility.
[01:16:54]  He's definitely in his prime, man.
[01:16:55]  He can't waste his life away right now.
[01:16:57]  Stop headbutting people.
[01:16:58]  Yeah, just do the right thing because you are in your prime right now and it doesn't last forever.
[01:17:03]  He might already be champ if he could keep it together outside of the campus.
[01:17:06]  You know what I mean?
[01:17:07]  Like, who knows what would have happened in the Oliveira fight?
[01:17:10]  It was a proper fight, a five rounder, you know?
[01:17:13]  He's staying busy, though.
[01:17:14]  It's not like he's on the couch.
[01:17:15]  He's staying real busy.
[01:17:16]  You know what I mean?
[01:17:16]  He's doing those videos with Faye now.
[01:17:18]  That's right.
[01:17:19]  He put Mokayev to sleep a couple weeks ago, yeah.
[01:17:21]  Oh, that was a little too much.
[01:17:22]  That was a lot, yeah.
[01:17:24]  He kept it on.
[01:17:24]  He kept it on.
[01:17:25]  Yeah.
[01:17:26]  But, like, he kept it.
[01:17:27]  Whenever they keep it on when the guy's already sleeping for too long, it's like, yo, what are you, what's going on here?
[01:17:31]  You know, you got to know he's out.
[01:17:33]  What the fuck's happening?
[01:17:34]  Maybe some unkind words were exchanged.
[01:17:36]  That's kind of my thought process.
[01:17:37]  That doesn't happen to me.
[01:17:38]  I'm sure that happened.
[01:17:39]  And Mokayev is a hothead, right?
[01:17:41]  Yeah.
[01:17:41]  He's been known to say something.
[01:17:43]  Did he get kicked out of the UFC for it?
[01:17:44]  What happened with him?
[01:17:46]  I heard he was just, like, mean to people, like, mean to the staff.
[01:17:49]  That's what I heard.
[01:17:50]  He was just, like, mean to the staff.
[01:17:51]  Yo, I wasn't even talking.
[01:17:52]  I was talking about when he did it to a streamer.
[01:17:54]  I'm not talking about that fight.
[01:17:55]  Oh, we're talking about it.
[01:17:56]  No, no, no.
[01:17:57]  I'm talking about him doing it to like just putting somebody to sleep, but his friends, the guys with his other friends.
[01:18:03]  I don't think I saw that.
[01:18:04]  It was him on a couch, and he put the guy to sleep.
[01:18:07]  This is a regular Joe.
[01:18:08]  Armin did this?
[01:18:08]  Yeah, man.
[01:18:10]  Jamie?
[01:18:11]  No, no, no.
[01:18:12]  Sorry, Jamie.
[01:18:12]  I'm not putting it away, Jamie.
[01:18:14]  But yo, yo, he put him to sleep, and he held that shit on for an extra too many seconds.
[01:18:21]  Look at this.
[01:18:21]  Watch this.
[01:18:22]  No, no, I'm telling you.
[01:18:24]  Do you tell me if you think it's too long?
[01:18:26]  That guy's neck makes me sad.
[01:18:28]  But now look.
[01:18:30]  To know that he's going to do that to him.
[01:18:31]  Now look.
[01:18:31]  And I'm going to have to see this.
[01:18:35]  Now ready?
[01:18:36]  Let's see.
[01:18:37]  Now he's out, right?
[01:18:39]  He lasted a long time.
[01:18:40]  Yo, Nick, I don't know what he's doing.
[01:18:42]  What the fuck?
[01:18:43]  He's out already.
[01:18:44]  Oh, that's really crazy.
[01:18:45]  Been out.
[01:18:46]  That's really huge.
[01:18:47]  I mean, you're a killer.
[01:18:49]  That's really crazy.
[01:18:50]  Yeah, that's so unnecessary.
[01:18:52]  That's what I'm saying, man.
[01:18:53]  What the fuck?
[01:18:54]  Yeah, that's a lot worse than I thought it was going to be.
[01:18:56]  Yeah, sorry, guys.
[01:18:57]  I hate to bring the room down, but I'm just.
[01:19:00]  That's the crazy thing is Armin knows he was out right away.
[01:19:02]  Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
[01:19:03]  Also, that guy's neck looks like it's never been choked.
[01:19:07]  I felt sad for what he was going to do to it when I saw his neck.
[01:19:10]  His neck is making me feel sad because I know that's going to hurt.
[01:19:13]  That fucking gorilla, that dude's got a clamp on him, man.
[01:19:17]  Little fuck is having soup for a week after that.
[01:19:19]  Yeah, right?
[01:19:20]  What's the problem?
[01:19:21]  Armin's fucking grip is so incredible, man.
[01:19:24]  I'm just very impressed with him, man.
[01:19:26]  Very impressed with his grappling.
[01:19:27]  I just wish he could keep it together.
[01:19:29]  Yeah.
[01:19:29]  I mean, his striking's not bad neither.
[01:19:31]  Like, he's okay.
[01:19:32]  His first fight with Islam was very close.
[01:19:34]  Yeah.
[01:19:34]  Very close.
[01:19:35]  First fight in the UFC.
[01:19:36]  I don't even think he got a full camp.
[01:19:38]  Probably not.
[01:19:39]  I think it was a short notice fight.
[01:19:41]  And he fought very well.
[01:19:42]  You know, he's at the.
[01:19:44]  It's just like crazy that fuck ups have kept him from being at the time.
[01:19:48]  The missing the title fight was the big one.
[01:19:49]  Yeah.
[01:19:50]  That was the craziest one.
[01:19:51]  Like his back hurt the day before.
[01:19:53]  Like, come on.
[01:19:54]  It's crazy.
[01:19:55]  Yeah.
[01:19:55]  And you make Hanato Moicano go out there and, you know, not having prepared for him.
[01:20:00]  Right.
[01:20:01]  Moicano looked good against Duncan.
[01:20:02]  Money, money, money, money.
[01:20:06]  Yeah.
[01:20:07]  I like what he gets on that mic, too.
[01:20:08]  He says, talking shit.
[01:20:09]  He's awesome.
[01:20:11]  I wish he would have started talking shit even earlier.
[01:20:13]  Like, I always liked the guy, but he's.
[01:20:14]  Fucking a layout.
[01:20:15]  He might be the best in the business right now.
[01:20:17]  He's funny, man.
[01:20:18]  He's just not getting enough mic time.
[01:20:19]  He needs more mic time.
[01:20:21]  When he gets on the mic time, money fucking boycott.
[01:20:26]  Their podcast, he's good on there with him and I think Gilbert, they all fucking bullshit.
[01:20:31]  Well, that was the thing.
[01:20:32]  He's doing some streams in English and in Portuguese, but the Portuguese is doing better for him.
[01:20:38]  And he's like, I'm making money off YouTube now.
[01:20:40]  So I don't care anymore.
[01:20:43]  I have my money.
[01:20:44]  I have a big stream of revenue coming in from YouTube.
[01:20:47]  You fucking pay me, motherfucker.
[01:20:51]  He's a character.
[01:20:52]  You need that.
[01:20:52]  You need some personalities in that fight.
[01:20:54]  Fuck yeah.
[01:20:54]  He's good too, remember?
[01:20:56]  Like his fight with Benoit Saint Denis.
[01:20:58]  Oh, yeah.
[01:20:59]  Right?
[01:21:00]  He murked him.
[01:21:01]  Right?
[01:21:01]  He murked him.
[01:21:02]  Saint Denis is on his way to potential future title shop.
[01:21:05]  That win looks real good.
[01:21:06]  Real good.
[01:21:08]  You can't judge him on that short notice shit.
[01:21:09]  I know.
[01:21:10]  What do you guys think of Hookit's shit?
[01:21:13]  He's so fun.
[01:21:14]  You think it's fun?
[01:21:15]  I think it's fun.
[01:21:16]  I don't get it, man.
[01:21:17]  I don't get it.
[01:21:18]  I don't get it.
[01:21:19]  What are you talking about?
[01:21:20]  Look at all four talking shit.
[01:21:22]  Heavy note.
[01:21:23]  It's not witty.
[01:21:24]  It's not.
[01:21:25]  Like, it ain't funny.
[01:21:26]  It ain't witty.
[01:21:26]  It looks like he's trying too hard.
[01:21:28]  Exactly.
[01:21:28]  I love it.
[01:21:29]  No, I don't get it.
[01:21:30]  He's like a pro wrestler.
[01:21:31]  It's like pro wrestling.
[01:21:32]  He's like smart dude.
[01:21:33]  Bro, you talk to that guy.
[01:21:34]  He's a smart dude.
[01:21:35]  He knows what he's doing.
[01:21:36]  He's being a goof.
[01:21:37]  And here's the thing about people that act really goofy and stupid.
[01:21:40]  You kind of, you go, fuck, I ain't shit.
[01:21:43]  Like, they can trick you.
[01:21:45]  They can trick you.
[01:21:46]  You think he's going to beat Curtis?
[01:21:47]  I don't know, man.
[01:21:48]  Curtis is a lot.
[01:21:49]  You know, it's a big fan.
[01:21:50]  He's just this early in his career.
[01:21:51]  Curtis has a lot of power.
[01:21:53]  He's a big fucking fan.
[01:21:54]  He's going to be a better wrestler, probably.
[01:21:55]  He's got a lot of MMA experience.
[01:21:57]  But Hoket's a hard dude to solve.
[01:21:59]  He's a really good wrestler, and he's fucking hyper aggressive, and he's got hands on him, too.
[01:22:03]  He's got good pace on.
[01:22:04]  He's definitely athletic.
[01:22:07]  He's one of the guys that I have my eye on.
[01:22:09]  You think he can make 205, or you think he should?
[01:22:12]  I mean, well, heavyweight's light, so maybe stay there.
[01:22:15]  But really, we're just waiting for Gable.
[01:22:17]  Yeah.
[01:22:17]  Yeah, right?
[01:22:18]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:22:19]  We're rich.
[01:22:19]  He's getting Roman Olive, I think, is wrestling him in the ROI.
[01:22:23]  I would not let him do that.
[01:22:24]  I'd be like, what if you blow your ACL out?
[01:22:25]  Yeah.
[01:22:26]  What are you, crazy?
[01:22:26]  Why are you doing this?
[01:22:27]  You're going to be the heavyweight champion of the UFC.
[01:22:29]  They got to be paying attention.
[01:22:30]  And Romanoff's a big dude, man.
[01:22:32]  Yeah.
[01:22:32]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:22:33]  I mean, look, I think Gibb, I think he'll be fine, but.
[01:22:36]  When you think of guys that are like a Mike Tyson in MMA, like when Mike Tyson was coming up, that's what I think of when I see him.
[01:22:44]  I'm like, how do you deal with that?
[01:22:45]  How the fuck do you deal with that?
[01:22:46]  He moves like a cat.
[01:22:47]  He's 240 pounds, Olympic gold medalist, and he can KO you.
[01:22:51]  And he's got a smart ass guy in his corner.
[01:22:53]  And he's got John Jones as a mentor.
[01:22:55]  Are you fucking crazy?
[01:22:56]  Fight IQ, John's one of the smartest guys.
[01:23:00]  Yeah, you got that guy in your corner, and everybody's saying, I mean, he's one of the only guys that isn't even in the UFC yet that I had him on my podcast.
[01:23:08]  I was like, I got to talk to him.
[01:23:08]  I mean, he's accomplished, I think, enough anyway.
[01:23:11]  He's already a fucking Olympic gold medalist, NCAA champion.
[01:23:15]  He's young.
[01:23:15]  Got to be mid 20s.
[01:23:17]  He's young.
[01:23:17]  He's young.
[01:23:18]  And they're doing it smart.
[01:23:19]  You know, they gave him one of those, what are they called?
[01:23:22]  Dirty boxing?
[01:23:23]  Dirty boxing fights.
[01:23:24]  The one where he jumped.
[01:23:25]  Dude, did you see he jumped over the rope?
[01:23:26]  He jumped over the rope like it was nothing.
[01:23:28]  He landed on it.
[01:23:28]  It was pretty sick.
[01:23:29]  He jumped over it.
[01:23:30]  He just stood there and leapt over the ropes after he won.
[01:23:34]  And jumped over it.
[01:23:34]  No.
[01:23:35]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:23:36]  Like the whole thing.
[01:23:37]  Dude, after he won the NCAA championships, like he can do.
[01:23:42]  Like round offs and like the shit, like literally boom, boom, boom, like a gymnast.
[01:23:46]  It's fucking crazy.
[01:23:47]  And I guarantee you that attribute that's we contribute to the speed that he has and covering distance.
[01:23:53]  He's dangerous, man.
[01:23:55]  Watch this.
[01:23:55]  Watch when he goes over this rope.
[01:23:56]  This is crazy.
[01:23:58]  Damn.
[01:23:59]  It's BJ pinch up and out of the pool right there.
[01:24:01]  I mean, that is crazy.
[01:24:03]  But he just stuck the landing and started twerking effortlessly.
[01:24:08]  He's a monster, dude.
[01:24:09]  Real hard problem for people to say.
[01:24:11]  Anybody that wrestled named Gable, you better fucking be good.
[01:24:14]  Yeah.
[01:24:14]  And named after Dan Gabriel.
[01:24:16]  After Dan Gabriel.
[01:24:17]  So he's been wrestling since he's a toddler.
[01:24:20]  And he's just such a fucking athlete and so smart, just dedicated.
[01:24:25]  They're doing it smart, too.
[01:24:26]  They're not just jumping him into the UFC right away.
[01:24:28]  He's getting famous outside the UFC.
[01:24:30]  That's the way you do it, for sure.
[01:24:32]  For sure.
[01:24:33]  You try to bring him along as much as you can.
[01:24:36]  Yeah, fuck your 10 and 10.
[01:24:37]  Come on, son.
[01:24:38]  Well, when they sign him, they're going to give him more than that.
[01:24:42]  But the thing is, you don't.
[01:24:42]  Shit, he ain't getting that.
[01:24:43]  Some people are of the opinion that you don't want to give a young fighter too much money early.
[01:24:48]  Because it'll ruin their motivation.
[01:24:50]  I mean, there's truth in that, but I mean, it's not.
[01:24:52]  Who's that for you to say, though?
[01:24:53]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:24:54]  Like, I want my money.
[01:24:55]  Exactly.
[01:24:55]  Yeah.
[01:24:56]  You don't get to determine that.
[01:24:57]  I want my money, right?
[01:24:58]  Guess what?
[01:24:58]  I think the cream will still rise to the top.
[01:25:00]  I think the guys that are dedicated, that have a lot, like Floyd Mayweather, when he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars, would still never drink and run home from the club.
[01:25:08]  From the club.
[01:25:08]  Instead of people driving his Rolls Royce, he's running behind it.
[01:25:12]  Yeah.
[01:25:12]  I mean, look at Armin, man.
[01:25:14]  That guy's got money.
[01:25:15]  He doesn't give a shit.
[01:25:16]  He's got a private check.
[01:25:17]  Yeah, he's just.
[01:25:18]  Armin's got a private jet.
[01:25:19]  At least he's always on a private jet.
[01:25:20]  It seems like he knows it.
[01:25:21]  Jesus.
[01:25:22]  Yeah, I think he's got some cash.
[01:25:23]  His family has tons of money.
[01:25:25]  Yeah.
[01:25:26]  But he still has a desire to be the best.
[01:25:27]  Yeah.
[01:25:28]  You know what I mean?
[01:25:28]  It's either in you or it's not with that.
[01:25:30]  You know, I can imagine.
[01:25:31]  Maybe that's why he can't get his attitude together, too.
[01:25:34]  Perhaps, right?
[01:25:35]  He doesn't need it.
[01:25:36]  Yeah.
[01:25:36]  A bit spoiled in that way, right?
[01:25:38]  Yeah.
[01:25:39]  Who's disciplining him?
[01:25:40]  You know what I mean?
[01:25:40]  He runs his town, I'm sure.
[01:25:42]  What do you guys think about Hamza and Strickland?
[01:25:45]  I, that's, well, let me tell you.
[01:25:49]  This comes down to Strickland's motivation.
[01:25:51]  Well, I mean, he got to be fucking motivated.
[01:25:54]  How many more shots is he going to get?
[01:25:55]  Yeah, but I mean, he's worked with him before.
[01:25:58]  I mean, I know they say that Kamzat submitted him, but if you hear Strickland talk about it, they were doing additional rounds.
[01:26:04]  Yeah, back drills.
[01:26:04]  When you're starting on the back.
[01:26:06]  Started on his back.
[01:26:06]  I mean, come on.
[01:26:07]  But I think when they moved around, I think he feels pretty confident with it.
[01:26:11]  He's a hard guy to keep down, Sean.
[01:26:13]  Yeah.
[01:26:13]  And cardio is going to be on point.
[01:26:16]  Who made Kamzat look human?
[01:26:17]  Gilbert Burns, Kamara Usman.
[01:26:20]  I mean, they made him look human, you know.
[01:26:22]  And Drake is, again, you don't want to see that rematch.
[01:26:26]  Take the fifth round.
[01:26:27]  But in that fifth round, he did get into some decent positions.
[01:26:32]  He just got reversed right away.
[01:26:33]  I mean, Sean, if there's any bit of blood in the water, he's fucking a finisher.
[01:26:37]  He's, you know what I mean?
[01:26:38]  He'll stay on him if he's hurt at all.
[01:26:41]  He's durable.
[01:26:42]  I mean, and everybody's saying how underrated his grappling is, the guys that are working with him.
[01:26:46]  So, I mean, it's.
[01:26:48]  That's all I've heard, too.
[01:26:49]  And he's so hard to hit, man.
[01:26:50]  He's got a weird style.
[01:26:52]  It's very weird.
[01:26:53]  It fucks you up.
[01:26:54]  And he's really good at moving back away from shots when all the hands are in your face.
[01:26:59]  Yeah.
[01:26:59]  It's weird.
[01:27:00]  He also throws like looping shots on purpose sometimes.
[01:27:03]  Like you would think it's bad technique, but he's like finding a way around your guard.
[01:27:08]  Yeah.
[01:27:08]  And he's catching you with weird stuff.
[01:27:10]  And his fucking jab is on point.
[01:27:11]  Is that fluffy?
[01:27:12]  Did you, were you at the, were you calling that one?
[01:27:14]  No.
[01:27:15]  I was there for that.
[01:27:16]  And you could hear it.
[01:27:17]  Like you don't always hear that.
[01:27:19]  You could hear the thud in his jab when fluffy was blocking him.
[01:27:24]  And it was hard.
[01:27:25]  He was mixing his kicks in there well.
[01:27:26]  He's going to have to watch that.
[01:27:27]  And he wasn't getting hit, man.
[01:27:29]  The thing about him, if you watch him when he's on point, he's so fucking hard to hit.
[01:27:35]  He just fucked up with Alex.
[01:27:36]  You just can't make any mistakes.
[01:27:38]  It seems like everybody fucks up with Alex.
[01:27:40]  He's the freak.
[01:27:41]  He doesn't negotiate with you.
[01:27:43]  He's just like, you fuck up, it's over.
[01:27:47]  Do you think that translates to heavyweight with Gon?
[01:27:50]  I don't think so.
[01:27:51]  I think Gon is a little bit too scary.
[01:27:54]  I think Gon would decision him.
[01:27:56]  There's a good chance of fucking dancing and jabbing his way to victory.
[01:28:01]  But that's what I'm saying.
[01:28:02]  Gon is going to, if he messes up with him, I think Alex will fucking.
[01:28:06]  Put him out.
[01:28:07]  Here's one thing: Gon hasn't been 185 pounds since he was 12.
[01:28:10]  Right?
[01:28:11]  Yeah.
[01:28:11]  I mean, that's a big heavyweight, athletic, moves like a cat, and he's got world-class striking skills, man.
[01:28:18]  That Tom Aspinall fight, that first round, opened up a lot of eyes.
[01:28:22]  Like, he looked fucking good, man.
[01:28:24]  He opened eyes all right.
[01:28:26]  Open up fucking Tom's eyes.
[01:28:28]  Hey, dude, I feel bad for Tom, man, because talk about a guy that got the shit end of the stick.
[01:28:34]  Right?
[01:28:34]  Yeah.
[01:28:34]  A knuckle deep in his fucking eyes.
[01:28:37]  Two surgeries.
[01:28:37]  And everybody's like, ah, walk it off.
[01:28:39]  Fucking poor guy.
[01:28:41]  Really, really was.
[01:28:42]  I just think that was handled poorly right after the fact.
[01:28:45]  You know, I think you have to address right after the fact that you have to probably tell people, like, what kind of injuries can be sustained from this?
[01:28:51]  They're permanent.
[01:28:52]  Look at Michael Bisbank, still can't see out of his right eye.
[01:28:56]  You can't just have a guy go back into a fight when he can't see.
[01:28:59]  It's crazy.
[01:29:00]  It's crazy to ask.
[01:29:01]  The guy's eye's been injured.
[01:29:02]  If he gets hit again, it could rupture.
[01:29:04]  Who knows?
[01:29:05]  Who knows what kind of damage you have back there?
[01:29:06]  So, who do you think was the irresponsible response to that?
[01:29:09]  Cyril Gahn.
[01:29:10]  Yeah.
[01:29:10]  I mean, but in terms of handling the situation afterwards, you think it was.
[01:29:14]  Tom's fault or the UFC for not being like getting his back on it?
[01:29:20]  If I was doing a press conference afterwards, what I would emphasize first and foremost is how dangerous eye pokes are.
[01:29:28]  But I think we've neglected some simple solutions, and I think there's got to be a solution that we use to stop these fucking fingers from going into people's eyes.
[01:29:39]  Point deduction right away.
[01:29:40]  Point deduction is the easiest.
[01:29:43]  You touch someone's eyeball with your fingers, unless it's a complete scramble.
[01:29:47]  You're doing this, his head happens to be there.
[01:29:50]  But if you're doing this when a guy's coming in and your fingers go in his eyes, one point.
[01:29:53]  Every fucking time.
[01:29:55]  Every fucking time.
[01:29:56]  For sure.
[01:29:56]  No judge's discretion.
[01:29:58]  Yeah.
[01:29:58]  No, you know, no referee's discretion.
[01:30:00]  Poke in the eye.
[01:30:01]  Ow!
[01:30:01]  One point.
[01:30:02]  Did you ever ask Dana about the pride gloves?
[01:30:05]  What happened to them?
[01:30:06]  I did.
[01:30:08]  You know, I don't.
[01:30:09]  Because they should own that tech, right?
[01:30:10]  That's good.
[01:30:11]  The best stuff is Trevor Whitman.
[01:30:13]  Right.
[01:30:13]  Just paying the man a little bit of money.
[01:30:15]  I was trying to broker something, and I might still be able to do that to try to figure out a way to just like.
[01:30:21]  Those gloves are perfect.
[01:30:23]  The knuckles.
[01:30:24]  Curve over your hands, are in this position.
[01:30:25]  Yes, it does not impede your grappling.
[01:30:27]  It's easy to do that if you want to, but the natural position is like this.
[01:30:31]  So, if you're doing this, it's because you wanted to do that.
[01:30:35]  It's not like the gloves are forcing your hand open, like a lot of people complain about now.
[01:30:39]  They can just mad scientist on this.
[01:30:41]  Here's the mad scientist cover the tips of the fingers, you don't use them anyway.
[01:30:45]  True, nobody does this, right?
[01:30:46]  So, if you don't, if you're always grappling like this, right?
[01:30:49]  Yeah, so cover it with like a mitten, yeah, little mittens, like a leather top, like a nice little mitten.
[01:30:56]  So, it's your thumbs are free.
[01:30:57]  So, you still have some potential eye pokes from thumbs, but that mitigates a lot of it.
[01:31:02]  That mitigates a lot of it.
[01:31:03]  And you completely stop all this stuff because now you have a solid thing.
[01:31:09]  It's not going to go knuckle deep in.
[01:31:11]  One finger goes in, one finger's on your eyebrows, and it's just fucking digging in.

=== Deontay Tony Big Moment (09:18) ===

[01:31:15]  That's crazy.
[01:31:16]  That would all stop if you had a mitten.
[01:31:18]  Well, I mean, there's not a lot of eye pokes in bare knuckle, right?
[01:31:23]  Right.
[01:31:23]  That is interesting.
[01:31:24]  And it's because they're always like this.
[01:31:26]  Yeah.
[01:31:27]  Because they're noted.
[01:31:27]  True.
[01:31:28]  It's just these guys that get in there and they're just like, Yeah.
[01:31:31]  So the way to stop it, really, I mean, it's take away points and guys will be like this more.
[01:31:35]  Yeah.
[01:31:36]  Well, I wonder if there would be less eye pokes in just if you just think about MMA with gloves on, it was just boxing and no kicking and takedowns.
[01:31:48]  Maybe it's like all the different possibilities of things that are happening.
[01:31:51]  That's what it is.
[01:31:51]  It's like they're trying to avoid the takedown and everything.
[01:31:55]  And blocking kicks.
[01:31:56]  Yeah, everything.
[01:31:57]  So that's why you're doing this.
[01:31:59]  Because like Muay Thai guys do this all the time.
[01:32:01]  Boxing guys very rarely do that.
[01:32:03]  No.
[01:32:03]  Very rarely.
[01:32:04]  Unless they're showing off and they're about to hit you with a big right hand.
[01:32:07]  BANG!
[01:32:07]  Like Deontay Wilder.
[01:32:08]  Right.
[01:32:09]  Yeah, he'll be.
[01:32:10]  Yeah, old school, Deontay Wilder would literally hold his fist in front of your face and then wing one.
[01:32:14]  Wing a nuclear bomb at your head.
[01:32:18]  I think you just got to discourage guys to close your hands.
[01:32:20]  Cover the fingers.
[01:32:21]  Is he fighting Joshua?
[01:32:24]  I don't know.
[01:32:26]  I don't know.
[01:32:26]  I thought I heard something about that.
[01:32:27]  That's a tough fight.
[01:32:29]  He's too skinny for that.
[01:32:30]  At this point.
[01:32:31]  He looked good in the Chasaur fight in moments.
[01:32:33]  There were moments.
[01:32:34]  He said, I love you, and then Chasaur said, I love you too.
[01:32:37]  And then he hit him, knocked him out of the ring.
[01:32:40]  Jesus.
[01:32:41]  Deontay said he backed off on him because he saw he was hurt and he wanted him to go home to his family.
[01:32:45]  I love you too.
[01:32:46]  And he fucking knocked him out of the ring.
[01:32:47]  Deontay did ayahuasca.
[01:32:49]  And I think a lot of times when a straight up assassin like Deontay Wilder meets God, oh, yeah, it takes a lot of that mean out of your heart.
[01:32:59]  You need a little of that mean to land those haymakers.
[01:33:02]  You got to be angry.
[01:33:03]  It's true.
[01:33:03]  Yeah, you don't want to be half a hippie when you're going in there.
[01:33:06]  You want to talk about one punch power, though.
[01:33:09]  That guy might be the greatest of all time.
[01:33:12]  Deontay, he was like 48 knockouts, 49 fights.
[01:33:17]  He was, yeah, he was fucking people up.
[01:33:20]  He had one decision.
[01:33:20]  And he was not.
[01:33:22]  A great technical boxer.
[01:33:24]  He started late in life.
[01:33:25]  That right hand just was fucked.
[01:33:27]  Thor's hammer was dropping on people's heads.
[01:33:30]  Teddy Allis always calls it the eraser.
[01:33:32]  Any mistakes you make, that right hand erases them all.
[01:33:35]  I always wanted to see him fight Ngano.
[01:33:37]  That would have been wild.
[01:33:39]  That would have been the fight to make.
[01:33:41]  Him and Ngano would have been the fight to make.
[01:33:43]  Them two bombing at each other.
[01:33:44]  They could actually still do that.
[01:33:45]  Yeah, why not?
[01:33:46]  They could still do that.
[01:33:47]  Like, Ngano, if you want to look at it from a business standpoint, man, that guy's killed it, right?
[01:33:51]  Yeah.
[01:33:52]  Went over and got that crazy contract with the PFL.
[01:33:54]  He got a chance to fight Tyson Fury.
[01:33:57]  Knocks him down, becomes a legend.
[01:33:59]  Then gets a big money fight with Anthony Joshua.
[01:34:02]  That doesn't go so good.
[01:34:03]  And then he has his reintroduction to MMA.
[01:34:06]  He fights that dude, Hennen.
[01:34:08]  Right, the 6'8 Australian guy.
[01:34:09]  Hennen Ferreira.
[01:34:10]  Takes him down, smashes him, beats him down.
[01:34:13]  So he made, what, $20 million in that fight?
[01:34:15]  Something crazy like that?
[01:34:16]  He had a crazy contract, right?
[01:34:17]  Yeah.
[01:34:18]  And he had a contract where his opponent had to make at least $2 million.
[01:34:22]  Who does that?
[01:34:23]  Yeah.
[01:34:23]  How do you not love the guy?
[01:34:24]  I know.
[01:34:24]  How do you not love that?
[01:34:26]  Right.
[01:34:26]  He puts it into his opponent must make at least two million dollars.
[01:34:29]  Yeah.
[01:34:32]  I don't know.
[01:34:33]  And now he's got to be making a lot for this Netflix thing.
[01:34:35]  Netflix thing, they got to pay him because they need legit names.
[01:34:38]  Yeah.
[01:34:38]  And, you know, Felipe Lins, he fought at light heavyweight in UFC, right?
[01:34:44]  Yep.
[01:34:45]  Yeah.
[01:34:46]  I worked with him a bit at top team.
[01:34:47]  And I mean, I just, this is a big moment for him.
[01:34:49]  That's all I can say.
[01:34:50]  Like, I don't know how he's going to do it.
[01:34:52]  It's a big moment for him.
[01:34:53]  Yeah.
[01:34:54]  I'm happy Nate is making that money.
[01:34:56]  Mike Perry, too.
[01:34:57]  I'm happy for them.
[01:34:58]  Yeah, I heard those guys are getting paid.
[01:34:59]  It's nice because this is a thing where if a fighter is.
[01:35:05]  In contract negotiations, they have their last fight on the contract and they decide not to fight or not to sign until after the fight.
[01:35:12]  Yeah, they do make that decision, which legally they can do, right?
[01:35:14]  Yeah, and all of a sudden Netflix is calling, yeah, especially if you win big, yeah, you win big, some stunning knockout for sure.
[01:35:22]  And then you know, you come over to Netflix and make what 12, yeah, a fight that's nuts and that forces everybody's hand.
[01:35:30]  That's what business is supposed to do, that's how it's supposed to operate.
[01:35:34]  It's good, that's what's good for the fighters.
[01:35:35]  That's the most important thing, and that's good for the fighters.
[01:35:39]  But that's just like, that's why I'm hoping that this Netflix thing can be sustainable.
[01:35:43]  I hope so too.
[01:35:43]  Yeah, because if they just do a one off, it's like, oh.
[01:35:46]  Again, I'm a terrible businessman.
[01:35:48]  Yeah.
[01:35:48]  I'm terrible at it.
[01:35:49]  Yeah.
[01:35:50]  Me too.
[01:35:50]  But just give the money to the fighters.
[01:35:54]  They're the ones who fight.
[01:35:55]  Right.
[01:35:55]  Without that, you got nothing.
[01:35:57]  Right.
[01:35:58]  Everybody's making plenty of money.
[01:35:59]  Yeah.
[01:36:00]  Come on.
[01:36:01]  It's going to be big, though, for sure, this thing.
[01:36:04]  Everybody's going to watch it, I think.
[01:36:05]  100%.
[01:36:06]  It'll be huge because everybody has Netflix.
[01:36:08]  They're going to watch it.
[01:36:09]  It's going to be crazy.
[01:36:11]  Rhonda could become a superstar again.
[01:36:13]  Well, she's already a superstar, but I mean, if she wins again, then people start talking about maybe Rhonda's going to come back to the UFC.
[01:36:18]  And then maybe it's like a WWE moment.
[01:36:21]  Rhonda and Dana shake hands on a stage with Erica Kirk fireworks going off behind them.
[01:36:28]  And Drewski dancing.
[01:36:30]  Rhonda and Kayla Harrison, White House lawn number two next summer.
[01:36:35]  Oh, yeah.
[01:36:38]  I don't think she would do well in the UFC, but this is great for her.
[01:36:40]  She's done with the WWE and all that stuff.
[01:36:43]  Yeah.
[01:36:44]  I bet it's probably hard for a.
[01:36:46]  I mean, she probably enjoyed the job.
[01:36:47]  It was a great job, made her a lot of money.
[01:36:50]  But it's probably hard for an elite competitor to do these stage things.
[01:36:54]  I mean, she's an elite competitor.
[01:36:56]  Because, like, instinctively, she just wants to compete.
[01:37:00]  100%.
[01:37:00]  She doesn't want to fake compete.
[01:37:02]  I mean, some guys did it right.
[01:37:03]  Kurt Angle turned out to be a real good pro wrestler, you know, despite being a gold medalist.
[01:37:07]  No, no, listen, it's a great gig.
[01:37:10]  Don't get me wrong, but I'm saying for someone who still can fight.
[01:37:13]  Oh, you just got an angle.
[01:37:14]  Your angle was done at that point when he went to pro wrestling.
[01:37:17]  I went to that.
[01:37:18]  Won the Olympics with a broken neck.
[01:37:20]  Jesus, savage.
[01:37:21]  I just went to the headquarters in Connecticut.
[01:37:24]  It's pretty wild.
[01:37:25]  Nice.
[01:37:26]  Yeah, I read Stephanie McMahon's podcast.
[01:37:29]  She's very nice, Stephanie McMahon.
[01:37:31]  Nice.
[01:37:31]  And I seen that whole fucking place.
[01:37:34]  If you're into WWE, it's like a fucking nerdgasm.
[01:37:37]  I'm not really into it.
[01:37:38]  Bro, it's just stuff with cream and Oh my God.
[01:37:42]  He's already been there, I'm sure.
[01:37:44]  Oh, yeah.
[01:37:45]  He's working with them now.
[01:37:46]  Is he?
[01:37:47]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:37:47]  He's doing stuff with the WWE.
[01:37:49]  Is he writing for him?
[01:37:51]  He's going to be in some shows.
[01:37:52]  He's going to be a bad guy doing some things.
[01:37:54]  Oh my God.
[01:37:56]  He should be like a mad dude.
[01:37:58]  He's so happy.
[01:37:59]  He's so happy.
[01:38:00]  That's great.
[01:38:00]  I don't know how much I could talk about this.
[01:38:02]  I have to be quiet.
[01:38:03]  I don't know how much this is public, but they're already announcing they're doing some stuff with Kill Tony, and he's going to roast WWE people.
[01:38:11]  They're going to do some stuff like that.
[01:38:13]  They're doing a lot of collaborations together.
[01:38:15]  It's perfect.
[01:38:16]  That guy's a giant wrestling fan.
[01:38:18]  He loves it.
[01:38:19]  Yeah.
[01:38:19]  The guys that love it, love it.
[01:38:20]  That's it.
[01:38:20]  That's fucking love it.
[01:38:21]  And he's the best roaster, too, man.
[01:38:23]  The best.
[01:38:23]  When I be seeing him at the fights, I don't say shit.
[01:38:25]  I'm like, yo, I don't want him coming at me.
[01:38:29]  He had Dana's back.
[01:38:30]  That's my boy.
[01:38:30]  Yeah.
[01:38:31]  He had Dana's back for the fucking time we had to do that thing at the Last Factory.
[01:38:35]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:38:36]  Dana's like, yeah, we're going to do this thing.
[01:38:38]  And nobody's coming in prepared.
[01:38:40]  Meanwhile, he had Tony Hincliffe.
[01:38:42]  Yeah.
[01:38:43]  He wrote his whole set like two months prior.
[01:38:46]  That's hilarious.
[01:38:47]  Yeah, Tony's the best at that shit.
[01:38:50]  He's the best at cracking people.
[01:38:51]  Cracking on people and cutting people down.
[01:38:53]  But the people that love that soap opera world of the WWE, it's.
[01:38:59]  I don't hate on it.
[01:39:01]  I see how much they love it.
[01:39:02]  It keeps you entertained.
[01:39:03]  They like it.
[01:39:04]  You know what I mean?
[01:39:05]  They're really smart at mixing things up and bringing in new characters and having new crazy moments.
[01:39:10]  And if you're a nerd like Tony, like, yeah!
[01:39:14]  They go nuts.
[01:39:15]  It's like the same escape.
[01:39:18]  It's a male soap opera.
[01:39:19]  Yeah, but it's like the same kind of escape that you get if you're watching Game of Thrones.
[01:39:23]  It's just an escape.
[01:39:24]  This is silly.
[01:39:25]  This is crazy.
[01:39:26]  Oh, my God, he's back from that dad.
[01:39:31]  See, I can't do that.
[01:39:33]  I draw the line there.
[01:39:35]  I can't do that.
[01:39:35]  And I ain't got no problem with it.
[01:39:38]  I just can't do it.
[01:39:38]  I'm in the same camp as you.
[01:39:40]  It's not my thing.
[01:39:40]  I don't watch it, but I respect it.
[01:39:42]  I respect how hard it is to do.
[01:39:44]  Yeah.
[01:39:45]  Oh, yeah.
[01:39:45]  It's fucking incredible.
[01:39:46]  Very difficult to do.
[01:39:47]  Remember, Matt, we wrestled in Memphis.
[01:39:50]  Yeah, we did a little thing in the street.
[01:39:52]  But we were just winging it.
[01:39:54]  Yeah.
[01:39:55]  I was hoping you'd just let me get a submission.
[01:39:57]  You know, you fight me off.
[01:39:58]  Come on, man.
[01:39:59]  I mean, it's stratified.
[01:40:00]  I hurt my knee.
[01:40:01]  It was tough, man.
[01:40:02]  I was like, damn, this is harder than I thought.
[01:40:04]  Oh, them guys take a beating for sure.
[01:40:06]  You can learn how to fall, but you're still falling.
[01:40:08]  Yeah.
[01:40:08]  I've met Hulk Hogan twice.
[01:40:10]  Well, I've met him before when he did a promo with me with the UFC.
[01:40:14]  It was when we were on Spike back then.
[01:40:17]  Yeah.
[01:40:18]  But I met him a long time ago, and he's like, he was six foot five.
[01:40:21]  He's this giant fucking dude.
[01:40:23]  I was like, holy shit, it's Hulk Hogan.
[01:40:25]  And then I saw him the last time he did my podcast, and he's like four inches shorter.
[01:40:29]  And it's all from getting all of his spine fused.
[01:40:32]  I was about to say, you're the same height now.

=== Moon Side Sun Project (03:39) ===

[01:40:34]  I'm like, wait a minute.
[01:40:35]  What happened here?
[01:40:36]  He was like a big guy still.
[01:40:38]  But he was, he used to be a giant.
[01:40:40]  He was like this towering fucking crazy guy, bald head, thunder lips.
[01:40:43]  He was so fun.
[01:40:44]  That dude was so fun.
[01:40:46]  But that's how many back surgeries he had.
[01:40:49]  And he said it was all from that move that he had where he dropped down.
[01:40:52]  Oh, no.
[01:40:53]  And then the big seat drop.
[01:40:54]  Exactly.
[01:40:55]  So the seat drop, every time he does that, he's compressing his discs.
[01:40:59]  300 plus pounds.
[01:41:01]  Yeah, 300 fucking pounds.
[01:41:02]  Every night.
[01:41:02]  Dropping down every night and just blowing his back out.
[01:41:05]  His back was just destroyed.
[01:41:07]  Wow.
[01:41:07]  Destroyed.
[01:41:09]  Every vertebrae destroyed.
[01:41:11]  Every disc blown apart.
[01:41:13]  Herniations all throughout.
[01:41:14]  I barely could walk.
[01:41:16]  I was watching The Princess Bride the other day with Andre the Giant.
[01:41:20]  What a great movie.
[01:41:21]  Anyone want a peanut?
[01:41:22]  Yeah, he's fucking great.
[01:41:23]  My name is Diego Montoya.
[01:41:25]  Love that.
[01:41:25]  You killed my father.
[01:41:26]  Yeah, I bet you die.
[01:41:29]  Such a great movie.
[01:41:30]  This is so great.
[01:41:31]  Great movie.
[01:41:32]  Yeah, I put that on for the family.
[01:41:35]  Have the kids watch it.
[01:41:36]  It's a classic.
[01:41:38]  Yeah, that's one that lasts ages.
[01:41:41]  It goes through generations.
[01:41:42]  Look at that.
[01:41:43]  Yeah, yeah, it holds up.
[01:41:45]  Fucking love it.
[01:41:46]  You know?
[01:41:48]  They don't make them like that anymore.
[01:41:49]  I just saw that Project Hail Mary.
[01:41:51]  That's a nice one for the family.
[01:41:52]  What is that?
[01:41:53]  It's with Ryan Gosling goes to space and fucking has to save the world type of thing.
[01:41:58]  But, you know, it's more than that.
[01:42:00]  But that's pretty much the premise.
[01:42:03]  Where are these Artemis people at now?
[01:42:05]  Are they passing the moon yet?
[01:42:07]  They already did.
[01:42:08]  They passed it?
[01:42:08]  What happened?
[01:42:09]  They landed on Monday.
[01:42:10]  So when did they land yet?
[01:42:11]  Are they back yet?
[01:42:13]  Where are they?
[01:42:14]  It should be probably back in the next day or two.
[01:42:16]  Well, who's going where?
[01:42:17]  They went around the moon.
[01:42:18]  They went all the way around the moon?
[01:42:20]  All the way around the moon.
[01:42:21]  No, they just went around and saw the dark side of the moon.
[01:42:24]  Yeah, they took photos of the dark side of the moon.
[01:42:26]  Oh, really?
[01:42:27]  Yeah.
[01:42:27]  They crashed on Friday.
[01:42:30]  Splash.
[01:42:30]  Splash on Friday.
[01:42:31]  I was getting ready to say, what?
[01:42:32]  They crashed.
[01:42:33]  So they land tomorrow.
[01:42:35]  Wow.
[01:42:37]  So the dark side of the moon is only dark when the moon's not.
[01:42:41]  It's not dark.
[01:42:42]  The sun still hits it the same amount the sun hits the light side of the moon.
[01:42:46]  Is that true?
[01:42:47]  Yes.
[01:42:48]  I used to think, I'm a retard, I used to think that the reason why we only see one side of the moon. Is because the moon doesn't spin.
[01:42:56]  That's what I thought.
[01:42:56]  No, no, no.
[01:42:57]  The moon not only spins around us, but it rotates.
[01:43:00]  But when we see it, the only time we see the moon during a full moon or a quarter moon or whatever it is, is when the sun is hitting the side that's always facing us.
[01:43:10]  Right.
[01:43:10]  So when it goes the other way, there's a different side that's facing us, but we don't ever get to see it because it's dark.
[01:43:16]  Right.
[01:43:17]  That's what it is.
[01:43:19]  So they took pictures of the other side?
[01:43:21]  Exactly.
[01:43:22]  Yeah.
[01:43:22]  And there's aliens everywhere.
[01:43:23]  I was about to say, yeah, I was going to say, what's on it?
[01:43:25]  What's on the other side?
[01:43:26]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:43:27]  The civilization on the other side?
[01:43:28]  What's on the other side?
[01:43:29]  And in that movie, he finds an alien, by the way.
[01:43:32]  Oh, he does.
[01:43:32]  It's not really a spoiler.
[01:43:33]  It's in the trailers.
[01:43:35]  I had that guy, Bob Lazar, on again recently.
[01:43:38]  Who's that?
[01:43:38]  You want to see a great documentary?
[01:43:40]  It's fun.
[01:43:42]  First, I would say Jeremy Corbell's documentary, which is Area 51, Bob Lazar, and Flying Saucers.
[01:43:48]  Is that what it's called?
[01:43:49]  Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Flying Saucers?
[01:43:52]  So this guy was an engineer, and he was hired to work on these.
[01:43:58]  Spacecrafts that he didn't know what the fuck they were.
[01:44:01]  They told him, like, try to figure out this propulsion system.
[01:44:04]  They brought him into this hangar, and this is in like 1988.
[01:44:07]  It's a flying saucer that looks exactly like that thing on the desk.
[01:44:11]  Jesus.
[01:44:11]  It has an American flag sticker on it.

=== Planes Helicopter Laser (03:44) ===

[01:44:13]  So he's like, oh, it must be ours.
[01:44:15]  Then he gets in it and he's like, what the fuck is this?
[01:44:18]  It's made for people that are three feet tall.
[01:44:21]  There's no controls, no buttons, nothing.
[01:44:23]  Why are you looking at me, motherfucker?
[01:44:25]  Why?
[01:44:25]  Because you're the only guy to confront me.
[01:44:27]  Why are you three feet tall?
[01:44:28]  You look right at me.
[01:44:29]  You son of a bitch.
[01:44:33]  But he's got a new one out called S4.
[01:44:35]  I recommend it to anybody.
[01:44:36]  They did like CGI and they DH'd it.
[01:44:39]  Is it on Netflix or YouTube?
[01:44:40]  No, it's on Amazon.
[01:44:41]  Amazon.
[01:44:43]  Some other places.
[01:44:43]  What's it called again?
[01:44:44]  S4.
[01:44:45]  S4.
[01:44:46]  I just saw, I was just watching a series with you on it Ancient Apocalypse.
[01:44:50]  Was I on that?
[01:44:50]  Yeah, you were in that.
[01:44:52]  Oh, with Graham Hancock.
[01:44:52]  Yeah, Graham Hancock.
[01:44:53]  That's right.
[01:44:54]  Yeah, Graham is my man.
[01:44:55]  Do you know Jodrigo Gracie?
[01:44:57]  Yeah.
[01:44:58]  A good buddy of mine, my old roommate.
[01:45:04]  He's a fucking wacky guy.
[01:45:06]  He's fucking funny.
[01:45:07]  Funny as shit.
[01:45:08]  So, you know, we were just out to eat last night with Danaher.
[01:45:12]  We were talking about him.
[01:45:13]  God, I love that guy.
[01:45:13]  And he's like, oh, he's great.
[01:45:15]  And he's like, oh, I'm glad that Joderico's matured.
[01:45:17]  I was talking about how he's doing good.
[01:45:19]  He just visited me.
[01:45:19]  He did my podcast and he did a seminar at my place.
[01:45:22]  So, you know, I was catching up with him.
[01:45:24]  So he told me he was visiting Area 51 with his wife.
[01:45:28]  And he goes, so yeah, you know, I always wanted to go there.
[01:45:30]  So me and Fernanda, we drove down there and.
[01:45:34]  No, nothing was happening.
[01:45:35]  So then I'm driving back.
[01:45:36]  You got to drive back hours through like the dark desert, right?
[01:45:40]  So he's driving back and he goes, Fernanda fell asleep.
[01:45:43]  So I had my laser pointer.
[01:45:45]  So I'm just pointing at a sign, pointing at this.
[01:45:48]  He goes, Matt.
[01:45:49]  And then I saw blue lights in the distance.
[01:45:53]  He goes, I want to make contact.
[01:45:55]  He goes, what?
[01:45:56]  He goes, she was sleeping.
[01:45:57]  So I started taking my laser pin and pointing at it.
[01:46:02]  He goes, and I didn't think anything of it.
[01:46:04]  And then all of a sudden I'm driving.
[01:46:08]  And I hear a yellow circle around my car.
[01:46:15]  And I wake up Fernanda.
[01:46:17]  She's like, What did you do?
[01:46:19]  And he's like, I just took my laser pen.
[01:46:21]  It was a helicopter fucking following him.
[01:46:25]  And he goes, He was getting down to like almost my roof.
[01:46:28]  I didn't know what to do.
[01:46:29]  They had a yellow spot around my fucking car.
[01:46:32]  So she told me, We called the police.
[01:46:35]  So they go, Look, there's a helicopter following us.
[01:46:39]  They go, are you in a.?
[01:46:41]  They said the car, everything.
[01:46:43]  They go, the authorities are waiting for you at the rest stop, up or whatever.
[01:46:47]  So he goes to the rest stop, takes his laser pointer.
[01:46:51]  He gets there, he throws it in the garbage.
[01:46:53]  I don't know why.
[01:46:54]  And then he comes out.
[01:46:55]  They're like, look, they put him in cuffs.
[01:46:58]  And he goes to his wife.
[01:46:59]  He goes, go in there, get the laser pen.
[01:47:01]  It's in the bathroom.
[01:47:02]  She goes in the men's room through the garbage, finds it.
[01:47:05]  So they're saying, all right, you were shooting, interfering with.
[01:47:10]  A military helicopter, or whatever it is.
[01:47:12]  In other words, it's a major crime here that he could be facing.
[01:47:16]  He goes, man.
[01:47:17]  He goes, I was shitting myself.
[01:47:19]  The two pilots come over.
[01:47:22]  One of them takes off the helmet.
[01:47:24]  Califlower is.
[01:47:25]  He goes, fucking, thank you.
[01:47:26]  He trained under my cousin.
[01:47:29]  He goes, the guy's bowing to me.
[01:47:30]  He goes, my wife's yelling at me.
[01:47:32]  So he got out of it.
[01:47:33]  The guy trained under, he's a brown belt.
[01:47:35]  Oh, my God.
[01:47:36]  How lucky.
[01:47:36]  Dude.
[01:47:37]  That's so lucky.
[01:47:38]  I know fucking Adrigo, man.
[01:47:40]  Only you, bro.
[01:47:41]  That's so lucky.
[01:47:42]  Yeah, they probably thought they were trying to, like, fuck with planes.
[01:47:45]  Because kids do that.
[01:47:46]  They shine laser beams at planes.
[01:47:48]  It's like a real problem, is it?
[01:47:50]  They get in their eyes while they're fucking flying the planes.
[01:47:53]  The lasers go all the way up to planes.
[01:47:55]  I used to be with him on 27th Street.

=== Tapes Planes Wow Yelling (15:03) ===

[01:47:58]  He's like, Matt, watch this.
[01:47:59]  We'd be at the window.
[01:48:01]  Guys walking down the street.
[01:48:03]  Fucking, he's like, ah, look at him jump on the cover.
[01:48:06]  You're going to hell.
[01:48:08]  That's what you're doing.
[01:48:13]  That's so ridiculous.
[01:48:15]  A lot of people would think it's a laser sight on a rifle.
[01:48:17]  Exactly.
[01:48:18]  What the fuck is he doing?
[01:48:19]  Take that down.
[01:48:20]  Don't do that.
[01:48:22]  Don't do that around here.
[01:48:23]  He thought he was making contact.
[01:48:24]  He's making contact.
[01:48:25]  He's got a chopper.
[01:48:28]  Yeah, they keep talking about making contact.
[01:48:29]  I'm tired of hearing about it.
[01:48:31]  Let's do it already.
[01:48:32]  God damn it.
[01:48:33]  Yeah, I want to see it.
[01:48:34]  Yeah.
[01:48:35]  It's just dick teasing us.
[01:48:37]  Yeah, shit.
[01:48:38]  I don't think.
[01:48:39]  But you're a sci fi guy.
[01:48:41]  Oh, man.
[01:48:41]  Have you watched the Dune movies or no?
[01:48:43]  No.
[01:48:44]  I know.
[01:48:45]  You don't want to give it a shot.
[01:48:46]  I do.
[01:48:47]  I don't have any time.
[01:48:48]  They were good.
[01:48:48]  But I can get home too.
[01:48:50]  Like, if it's late at night when I'm home and I'm by myself watching shit, I don't want to watch anything like that.
[01:48:55]  I want to watch documentaries.
[01:48:57]  I was about to say, man.
[01:48:59]  Take a week off of a documentary on fucking.
[01:49:01]  I know.
[01:49:01]  I gotta like.
[01:49:02]  Dude, we're not gonna find out what happened with the PMX next week.
[01:49:07]  The Dune movies are so fucking good.
[01:49:10]  I heard they're amazing.
[01:49:11]  Josh Brolin is great.
[01:49:12]  And now they got the Dune Messiah.
[01:49:14]  Momoa was in it.
[01:49:15]  Yeah, they got a third one coming out.
[01:49:17]  Yep, third one coming out.
[01:49:18]  And this guy can't miss this.
[01:49:20]  Everybody keeps telling me how awesome they are.
[01:49:21]  They are good.
[01:49:22]  They are good.
[01:49:22]  No, they're very good.
[01:49:23]  I tried to watch it.
[01:49:24]  It was kind of slow.
[01:49:25]  Yeah, you know what?
[01:49:26]  You get that.
[01:49:27]  Just so much.
[01:49:27]  Yeah, it's kind of slow.
[01:49:29]  Dissenting opinions.
[01:49:30]  Yeah, man.
[01:49:30]  I don't know.
[01:49:32]  Yeah.
[01:49:32]  Hey, you know what else?
[01:49:33]  Who else is coming out with a movie?
[01:49:36]  Who?
[01:49:40]  Just like we planned.
[01:49:41]  Remember, you told me that.
[01:49:42]  Bring that shit up.
[01:49:44]  He came out with a.
[01:49:45]  I paid him.
[01:49:46]  Flowers.
[01:49:47]  Flowers.
[01:49:48]  I did it so fast.
[01:49:49]  Hey, wait, wait.
[01:49:50]  That's why Dean picked up dinner last night.
[01:49:52]  I said.
[01:49:52]  No, no, I did that because of my new job.
[01:49:56]  I'll tell you right now, he must give me a heart attack when you reach for that fucking bill.
[01:50:00]  Yeah.
[01:50:00]  Is this a movie that you put together?
[01:50:02]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:50:03]  What's it produced?
[01:50:04]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:50:06]  It's about a female in an abusive relationship.
[01:50:09]  Wow.
[01:50:10]  Look at you, Mr. Sensitive.
[01:50:11]  There it is.
[01:50:12]  There it is.
[01:50:12]  Flowers.
[01:50:13]  Oh, boy.
[01:50:13]  No shit.
[01:50:14]  The multi talented.
[01:50:16]  Yeah.
[01:50:17]  You know, nothing to do with cage fighting at all.
[01:50:19]  Look at that.
[01:50:19]  D. Thomas.
[01:50:21]  That's incredible, dude.
[01:50:22]  Congratulations.
[01:50:23]  That's awesome.
[01:50:23]  Yeah, I'm going to start shopping at the film festival next week.
[01:50:27]  That's awesome, dude.
[01:50:28]  That's awesome.
[01:50:29]  Yeah.
[01:50:30]  I like when people spread their wings.
[01:50:31]  You got to.
[01:50:32]  You know, life is short, and you don't want to be in a box.
[01:50:35]  You want to be able to do all kinds of different things.
[01:50:37]  And you can do whatever the fuck you want.
[01:50:38]  You can do whatever the fuck you want, yeah.
[01:50:40]  Yeah.
[01:50:40]  So I try to do whatever the fuck I want.
[01:50:42]  I'm telling you, that's how to live.
[01:50:44]  Yeah.
[01:50:45]  That's how to live.
[01:50:46]  There's too many people out there not doing what they want to do.
[01:50:48]  Ah.
[01:50:48]  That's a hell of a deal.
[01:50:50]  It makes me sad, actually.
[01:50:51]  It's a sad existence.
[01:50:52]  Yeah.
[01:50:53]  You know, and a lot of people are doing it because, like, you got to take care of your family, and I get it and I respect it.
[01:50:57]  Maybe you have a good time at work.
[01:50:58]  That's great.
[01:50:59]  But if there's a thing you want to do while you're still breathing, I know.
[01:51:03]  Do it.
[01:51:03]  You should do it.
[01:51:04]  You should try.
[01:51:05]  At least try it.
[01:51:06]  Get it out of your head.
[01:51:07]  I feel so fortunate when I fucking have my day to day.
[01:51:10]  You know what I mean?
[01:51:11]  Yeah.
[01:51:12]  Because I'm not like Eugene Thomas.
[01:51:13]  I don't want to do shit.
[01:51:15]  He's got another job every other week.
[01:51:17]  He does.
[01:51:18]  He's asking how I'm doing.
[01:51:19]  I'm like, dude, my school.
[01:51:22]  Taglios Pizzeria.
[01:51:23]  No promade, no bleach.
[01:51:27]  And my podcast, I'm having fun with, and UFC Unfiltered.
[01:51:30]  Dude, it's just such a perfect little thing for me.
[01:51:32]  I don't want to do anything else.
[01:51:34]  Beautiful.
[01:51:34]  It's so much fun.
[01:51:36]  There's a lot of power in saying no.
[01:51:38]  Oh.
[01:51:39]  You know?
[01:51:40]  Saying no to things.
[01:51:40]  I don't want to do anything more.
[01:51:42]  Like, just enjoy what you're doing.
[01:51:44]  Yeah.
[01:51:44]  You don't have to keep piling on.
[01:51:46]  But the thing is, once things start going good, you start saying, oh, I better not say no to nothing.
[01:51:50]  No.
[01:51:51]  I better just keep saying yes.
[01:51:52]  Yeah.
[01:51:52]  No.
[01:51:52]  They're offering me that.
[01:51:53]  I should do that.
[01:51:54]  Yeah.
[01:51:54]  I'll find the time.
[01:51:56]  But once you get to the point where you can say, No, that's a great place to be.
[01:51:58]  Oh, it's the best place.
[01:52:00]  Is your heart in it or not?
[01:52:01]  Do you want to do that?
[01:52:02]  Exactly.
[01:52:02]  Exactly.
[01:52:03]  Shoot, man.
[01:52:05]  The day to day, your day to day life.
[01:52:06]  That's what I love about Longo.
[01:52:07]  Longo's, you know, it's funny.
[01:52:09]  He's holding for my daughter now, which is so great.
[01:52:10]  She had her first Kickboxing Machine one, I thought.
[01:52:13]  But like, he sent us the pictures in the group chat.
[01:52:15]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:52:16]  It's amazing, right?
[01:52:17]  But it's such a proud moment.
[01:52:18]  Oh, so proud.
[01:52:19]  And it's just so cool, man, when I see him holding for her.
[01:52:23]  That's awesome.
[01:52:23]  He doesn't have, like, you know, he just, that guy just is the best.
[01:52:26]  He's just doing the same thing.
[01:52:27]  You and him, there's just, if, Paramount was smart.
[01:52:31]  They would do a whole series of you and him traveling to fights, working with people, hanging out and cornering each other.
[01:52:39]  You guys in the corner are some.
[01:52:41]  I'm like, keep the camera on Sarah.
[01:52:43]  Ain't that the truth?
[01:52:44]  It's the truth.
[01:52:45]  We always talk about it in the commentary.
[01:52:47]  It's fucking awesome watching you guys in a corner.
[01:52:50]  Good technical advice, but it's just fun.
[01:52:52]  You guys are fun together.
[01:52:54]  Just on an amateur card, we just got brought back together for one of my fighters, Adrian.
[01:52:58]  This young Filipino guy.
[01:53:00]  Good kid, he's a nurse, always smiling.
[01:53:02]  They're all nurses, brother.
[01:53:08]  He went in there, and he's just like, I just have my one wish is to have you and Ray in my corner.
[01:53:13]  He's such a nice kid.
[01:53:14]  So we went in there, we cornered him.
[01:53:15]  We didn't have to work the corner though the first round.
[01:53:17]  He flatlined this guy.
[01:53:18]  Nice.
[01:53:21]  Oh, man.
[01:53:21]  So, yeah, man.
[01:53:23]  You guys are great on your podcast together, too.
[01:53:25]  He's got a good chemistry.
[01:53:26]  He got a crazy friendship.
[01:53:28]  It's perfect.
[01:53:29]  It's like the banter's hilarious.
[01:53:31]  The two of you guys, you compliment each other perfectly.
[01:53:34]  It would be a great show.
[01:53:35]  I'm telling you that.
[01:53:35]  I think we're going to do something soon before the first episode is me and the guys taking Longo to a home.
[01:53:39]  He's not getting any younger.
[01:53:40]  Hey, guys, field trip Longo.
[01:53:42]  Where are we going?
[01:53:44]  Don't let him talk to you like that, Ray.
[01:53:46]  I'm in your corner, Ray.
[01:53:48]  Fucking road trip to the fucking home, Longo.
[01:53:50]  No, no, no.
[01:53:52]  Longo's got a lot of life.
[01:53:54]  He's fucking good.
[01:53:55]  Oh, my God.
[01:53:57]  What do you think of Gilbert Burns versus Mike Malotte?
[01:54:03]  Gilbert's lost four in a row, but he did it to all killers.
[01:54:06]  You know what I mean?
[01:54:07]  Lots of tough guys.
[01:54:08]  Malat only lost once to Neil Magni in a fight that he was doing great in, but then he got Neil Magni because that guy's fucking so hard.
[01:54:15]  Never gets tired.
[01:54:16]  Never gets tired.
[01:54:17]  Never gets disciplined.
[01:54:18]  Always in shape.
[01:54:19]  He's rided the ship since then.
[01:54:20]  And that kid's like the next Captain Canada.
[01:54:23]  He's doing.
[01:54:23]  People, they make an unfair comparison like, are you the next George?
[01:54:27]  That type of thing.
[01:54:28]  But he's his own fighter.
[01:54:29]  He's got a great skill set, good head on his shoulders.
[01:54:33]  Family of studs.
[01:54:33]  His brother's like an ice hockey.
[01:54:35]  It's a good test for him, Gilbert, at this stage of his career.
[01:54:38]  Yeah.
[01:54:39]  See if he still got it.
[01:54:40]  Yeah.
[01:54:40]  You know, he's the first guy to make comms out looking human.
[01:54:43]  But when Morales did that to Gilbert, I was like, Jesus Christ.
[01:54:47]  Morales is terrifying.
[01:54:49]  He looks so big.
[01:54:49]  It doesn't make any sense.
[01:54:51]  I know.
[01:54:51]  He doesn't make any sense.
[01:54:53]  So when I was with Brady, when Brady got beat by him, and the way he looked okay, right?
[01:54:59]  You know, a guy, he's 170 pounds.
[01:55:01]  Then the next day, he steps into the cage, and we're just looking like, oh my God.
[01:55:06]  He was massive.
[01:55:07]  Massive.
[01:55:07]  Yeah.
[01:55:08]  And when you're that much taller and you're the better striker.
[01:55:13]  God, that's such a good one.
[01:55:13]  Yeah, it's a huge advantage.
[01:55:15]  Because you can stand six feet away from a guy and just be like, wow, wow, wow, wow.
[01:55:19]  And Gary last week.
[01:55:21]  Oh, my God.
[01:55:21]  What are we talking about?
[01:55:23]  Yeah.
[01:55:23]  Like, I know Mansoor.
[01:55:25]  He trained it with ground control as a kid before he went off to college and all.
[01:55:31]  And I mean, the only thing I can say, first off, obviously, he was not ready for him yet.
[01:55:35]  But he definitely showed a lot of heart because he fucking stayed in there and took a fuckish hand.
[01:55:40]  I was just thinking the exact same thing.
[01:55:42]  I hope he comes back.
[01:55:43]  I mean, that was a bad thing.
[01:55:44]  Personally, knowing him, I felt horrible watching that.
[01:55:46]  I was like, so.
[01:55:47]  He wasn't ready for that yet.
[01:55:49]  Yeah.
[01:55:50]  When you get an elite striker, you've got to realize that guy beat Pereira in glory.
[01:55:54]  Yeah.
[01:55:54]  Pereira knocked him out twice after that.
[01:55:56]  But in the first fight, he beat Pereira.
[01:55:58]  I think people just didn't look like ordinary in his first couple.
[01:56:03]  He came out with a new version, and it was fucking impressive.
[01:56:06]  He's fucking good, and he's training with.
[01:56:08]  Pereira now.
[01:56:08]  So he's at Glover's club.
[01:56:10]  Yeah.
[01:56:10]  You know, Glover's club.
[01:56:11]  That's a great fucking camp.
[01:56:13]  And Glover has so much knowledge.
[01:56:15]  Yeah.
[01:56:16]  That guy was in the dark for six years where he couldn't get into America.
[01:56:20]  And during those six years, he was the boogeyman.
[01:56:22]  Everybody talked about Glover.
[01:56:23]  They're like, there's a guy that's in Brazil.
[01:56:25]  He can't get to America, but if that guy gets here, he's fucking everybody up.
[01:56:29]  And that was Glover.
[01:56:30]  Glover was always training with Chuck.
[01:56:32]  Chuck in.
[01:56:34]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:56:36]  Up in SLO.
[01:56:36]  And they're in Danbury, Connecticut.
[01:56:38]  That's another thing.
[01:56:39]  And that's not on the streets.
[01:56:41]  They're not in Vegas.
[01:56:42]  They're not wild out.
[01:56:44]  Ain't shit to do out there.
[01:56:45]  Yeah, all they're doing is training.
[01:56:46]  Yeah.
[01:56:47]  Yeah, dude.
[01:56:47]  Just nothing but Lyme disease in the woods.
[01:56:49]  Right?
[01:56:50]  And federal prison in Danbury.
[01:56:51]  Yeah.
[01:56:52]  Yeah, Connecticut is a good place to just not get distracted.
[01:56:57]  Just get to work.
[01:56:58]  Danbury's where Hodrigo Gracie broke my elbow.
[01:57:01]  I was there.
[01:57:01]  Yeah, you was there?
[01:57:02]  I was there.
[01:57:03]  I didn't know you were there.
[01:57:04]  Niagara?
[01:57:05]  You know I was there.
[01:57:05]  Yeah, Niagara, yeah.
[01:57:07]  Damn.
[01:57:07]  Did you have to get pins in it?
[01:57:08]  No, I mean, they reset it, cast it.
[01:57:12]  No pins.
[01:57:12]  He told that story at the seminar.
[01:57:14]  Oh, he did?
[01:57:15]  Yeah, because I had to bring that up.
[01:57:16]  Man, I was like 25 years ago.
[01:57:18]  No, he said it.
[01:57:20]  Because we weren't close at the time.
[01:57:22]  Oh.
[01:57:22]  And I was yelling shit, but I regret that too.
[01:57:26]  Wait a minute.
[01:57:27]  What did you yell?
[01:57:30]  He let it go.
[01:57:31]  He let it go.
[01:57:33]  And you didn't tap.
[01:57:34]  Well, yeah.
[01:57:35]  And right, which was great.
[01:57:37]  And then I was yelling at him for letting it go, which I was just psychotic because you're my friend now.
[01:57:42]  But at the time, it was just.
[01:57:44]  Well, to be fair, like if I knew it was going to break, I would have tapped.
[01:57:47]  Yeah.
[01:57:47]  Yeah.
[01:57:47]  I didn't know it was going to break.
[01:57:49]  Right.
[01:57:49]  Yeah.
[01:57:49]  Yeah.
[01:57:50]  Nah, that's what the story told.
[01:57:52]  Then he said that Henso yelled at him too after that.
[01:57:54]  For letting it go?
[01:57:54]  Why'd you.
[01:57:55]  Were you getting soft?
[01:57:56]  Yeah.
[01:57:58]  Why'd you let that shit go?
[01:57:59]  Bro, I got to get Henso in here.
[01:58:01]  Oh, man.
[01:58:02]  He's the best.
[01:58:02]  He's definitely.
[01:58:03]  We were going to do it at one time, but he was only in Austin for a short amount of time and I didn't have anything open.
[01:58:07]  In.
[01:58:07]  I couldn't get him in.
[01:58:09]  I'd love to sit down with that guy.
[01:58:10]  What a legend.
[01:58:11]  Yeah.
[01:58:11]  Stories for days.
[01:58:13]  And he's one of those guys like you hear about a guy getting a black belt and you're like, okay.
[01:58:17]  And you go, you got a black belt from Henso.
[01:58:19]  You're like, oh, okay.
[01:58:20]  Definitely.
[01:58:21]  It's like Henso, Hickson, Jean-Jacques Machado.
[01:58:24]  There's a few of those guys that are like, okay, that's a real black belt.
[01:58:27]  Like, I mean, Henso's New York place.
[01:58:31]  It's like one of the most legendary places in the history of jiu-jitsu.
[01:58:34]  If you had to write a history of jiu-jitsu, the Henso Academy in New York City, Holy shit, man.
[01:58:39]  100%.
[01:58:39]  Remember when he came over?
[01:58:41]  He came over in 96.
[01:58:43]  We had like an in school tournament.
[01:58:44]  You know what I mean?
[01:58:45]  It was great because Craig Kukuk already had two schools for him.
[01:58:49]  He had a Jersey school and.
[01:58:51]  Where's that guy?
[01:58:52]  No clue, man.
[01:58:53]  No wonder he went to like Buffalo and disappeared.
[01:58:56]  My first instructor.
[01:58:57]  But he was not an easy guy to.
[01:58:59]  He never let you get too close.
[01:59:01]  I bought all the tapes.
[01:59:05]  I learned a Mount Escape for those tapes and it worked one day.
[01:59:07]  I was like, oh shit, it worked.
[01:59:09]  He was a very good teacher.
[01:59:10]  I had a lot of fun.
[01:59:11]  I had a lot of fun too.
[01:59:12]  Before Henry came over.
[01:59:12]  He was an early Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt.
[01:59:15]  He was a black belt like early 90s, right?
[01:59:17]  Like the Steve Maxwell era.
[01:59:19]  He was one of the earliest ones, too.
[01:59:20]  I found out about him through the Gracie newsletter that I was applied to at like 17.
[01:59:24]  I used to get that.
[01:59:25]  Because when you buy the tapes, you get a newsletter.
[01:59:27]  And one newsletter, it was like every few months, it was announcing the first American black belt.
[01:59:33]  And then like two newsletters later, they disowned him.
[01:59:35]  They had a business.
[01:59:37]  But then I found out through Black Belt Magazine that he was teaching in the village one day a week in the city.
[01:59:42]  I go, all right.
[01:59:43]  They might have disowned him, but they couldn't take away his skill set.
[01:59:46]  There was no place to learn on the East Coast except for Maxwell and Philly.
[01:59:50]  So that's how I found Kukuk.
[01:59:51]  And then he partnered up with Henzo and.
[01:59:54]  And then I went with Henso when they broke up, obviously.
[01:59:57]  Why did they break up?
[02:00:00]  I remember Henso took me out to eat one time, and he's like, Look, and I always got along with Henso so much better right off the bat.
[02:00:08]  Like, Henso was just so warm and great, and he invited me over his house, and he was just such a, and Craig was always kind of a wall.
[02:00:15]  He was a big German guy, just, hmm.
[02:00:17]  But I remember one time he told me, Look, something with the business where he wasn't, felt like he was being treated fairly, I'll just leave it like that.
[02:00:24]  And then he goes, Look, He goes, if no one likes Craig, he goes, if you go with him and me, he goes, people will go with him because of you, because they like you.
[02:00:34]  But I want you to come with me.
[02:00:36]  I go, look, I go, and at first I'm like, is any, you know, I was a young kid.
[02:00:39]  I didn't know.
[02:00:40]  I go, is there any way you guys could make up?
[02:00:42]  He goes, man, if it was Brazil, he'd be already dead.
[02:00:45]  I go, all right, okay, Enzo.
[02:00:48]  All right, I got you.
[02:00:50]  So much for that.
[02:00:52]  So I went with Enzo and Craig kind of left town.
[02:00:57]  So, Matt, where are you in the pecking order in terms of American black belts from Henza?
[02:01:01]  I'm the first American on the Henza.
[02:01:03]  Okay, so you're right.
[02:01:05]  That's amazing.
[02:01:05]  That's crazy.
[02:01:07]  That's amazing.
[02:01:07]  That's something that could be my biggest achievement right there.
[02:01:11]  You know, he took me under his wing, Henzo.
[02:01:13]  Again, I was a purple belt.
[02:01:14]  He got me out of a security guard booth, taking me to Japan to corner him versus rings because he wanted me to see what it's like backstage.
[02:01:21]  Dude, I didn't do anything yet.
[02:01:23]  I'm like, oh, shit.
[02:01:24]  Really?
[02:01:25]  Japan?
[02:01:26]  So he would just do stuff like that.
[02:01:27]  Yeah, he put a lot into me.
[02:01:29]  So I can't thank him enough, dude.
[02:01:32]  That fucking camp.
[02:01:34]  You just think about how many elite black belts Henzo produced.
[02:01:37]  And then think of the John Donahue branch of it.
[02:01:41]  Yeah, I know, yeah.
[02:01:43]  Generationally, it dominates.
[02:01:45]  All the generations of jiu jitsu.
[02:01:47]  Especially now, if you think of what Donahue has done.
[02:01:49]  Oh, my God.
[02:01:50]  I mean, his prize guy, Gordon Ryan, greatest of all time.
[02:01:54]  For sure.
[02:01:54]  But I mean, even on the other side, who they don't get along with so much now, like Nicki Rod and them, are still from Donahue.
[02:02:01]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:02:02]  And all elite of the elite.
[02:02:03]  Yeah.
[02:02:04]  Well, it's a crazy lineage.
[02:02:06]  That's a guy that just put 100% of himself into it, and he's got a genius mind.
[02:02:12]  I remember he didn't even own a television until my buddy Chad LeBron, who was moving back to Virginia, gave him something.
[02:02:18]  He gave him one so he could watch.
[02:02:20]  It had, I think, a VHS and a DVD thing where he wanted to just study wrestling tapes and Japanese tapes.
[02:02:26]  He just used it just to study.
[02:02:28]  I have a question for you.
[02:02:28]  Whatever happened to Eddie Wolverine?
[02:02:31]  I asked him about that last night.
[02:02:32]  What's his last name again?
[02:02:33]  Cummins.
[02:02:34]  Cummins.
[02:02:34]  What did he say?
[02:02:35]  He got into some kind of business now.
[02:02:37]  He's not really training as much.
[02:02:38]  God, that guy was good.
[02:02:39]  Yeah, he was good.
[02:02:40]  It was leg locks, man.
[02:02:42]  Early in the day, as the leg lock revolution was unfolding, there was a lot of.
[02:02:46]  Yeah, that was John's first, you know, Savage he put out.
[02:02:49]  I remember.
[02:02:50]  And, you know, Just super, super technical.
[02:02:53]  You know?
[02:02:54]  Yeah, little guys.
[02:02:54]  Trained a lot of those guys in leg lock technique, too.
[02:02:57]  You know, they all shared techniques.
[02:02:59]  Oh, yeah.

=== Time Come John Bouncer (02:47) ===

[02:03:02]  I think it's just amazing that John drives.
[02:03:04]  He never drove in New York.
[02:03:05]  I was like, how'd you get here?
[02:03:06]  He goes, oh, I drove.
[02:03:07]  I go, you fucking.
[02:03:08]  With a rash guard on and a fanny pack and an Adidas sweatpants.
[02:03:11]  He was dressed up last night.
[02:03:13]  He had an all blacks polo shirt on.
[02:03:15]  I go, yeah.
[02:03:16]  From New Zealand.
[02:03:16]  Yeah.
[02:03:17]  Yeah.
[02:03:17]  A New Zealand all black polo shirt.
[02:03:19]  Matt asked him, he goes, what?
[02:03:20]  No rash guard?
[02:03:21]  And he goes, oh, I got dressed up.
[02:03:22]  For you tonight.
[02:03:23]  Well, you probably went back home to his family, and his mother was like, honey, stop wearing the rash card everywhere.
[02:03:31]  It is crazy.
[02:03:32]  That's all you would wear.
[02:03:33]  He's teaching at Kingsway now, Gordon School.
[02:03:35]  Now that Gordon's done competing, he's got that school going on.
[02:03:39]  He's like a character in a movie.
[02:03:40]  He's not supposed to exist.
[02:03:42]  That are?
[02:03:42]  Yeah, he's a philosophy major at Columbia who falls in love with jiu jitsu because he's a bouncer.
[02:03:50]  He wants to learn jiu jitsu.
[02:03:51]  He wants to bounce at scores.
[02:03:52]  Yeah, right.
[02:03:53]  He's like jacked.
[02:03:54]  Like powerlifter bouncer who played rugby.
[02:03:57]  He was like 220, he was yoked up.
[02:03:58]  Jacked.
[02:03:59]  And so then he learns jiu jitsu, becomes obsessed with jiu jitsu, but his body's all fucked up from rugby.
[02:04:04]  He's got a fucked up knee, then his hip gets fucked up, and so he can't really compete, but he is such a jiu jitsu fanatic that he trains the best guys of all time.
[02:04:15]  It's kind of nuts.
[02:04:16]  Yeah, it is nuts.
[02:04:17]  And that's all he cares about.
[02:04:18]  Like, he doesn't give a shit about anything, he doesn't give a fuck about social media.
[02:04:22]  Look at John there.
[02:04:23]  That's one of my favorite pictures.
[02:04:25]  Oh my God.
[02:04:25]  Full head of hair, jacked, looking ready for a.
[02:04:28]  A gay date.
[02:04:29]  John definitely.
[02:04:32]  Almost looks like he had a skirt on.
[02:04:33]  Yeah, it does.
[02:04:34]  He was a really jumbo.
[02:04:36]  John definitely would rock a headgear too when he wrestled, for sure.
[02:04:39]  He's a bad motherfucker, dude.
[02:04:41]  Bad motherfucker.
[02:04:42]  I know a lot of people who rolled with him that were shocked.
[02:04:44]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:04:45]  Dude, John would do privates and wrestle everybody all day long.
[02:04:48]  Yeah, he lived it.
[02:04:50]  He still lives in it.
[02:04:51]  That's all he does.
[02:04:52]  And it's just so fortunate that you get a guy who's that smart in everything.
[02:04:57]  He's really well read history, all kinds of.
[02:05:00]  He's a very interesting guy to talk to.
[02:05:02]  He's a genius.
[02:05:02]  But he becomes obsessed only with jujitsu.
[02:05:05]  He didn't have a family.
[02:05:06]  He doesn't have a wife and kids he's got to take care of.
[02:05:10]  I love that.
[02:05:11]  Choking people.
[02:05:11]  When you have us out here, it's like a routine now.
[02:05:13]  Now, every time we come out, I get dinner with him.
[02:05:16]  I don't see him too often.
[02:05:17]  It's great.
[02:05:18]  It's like a little reunion each time we come to town.
[02:05:21]  I'd be with him how many days a week?
[02:05:22]  We'd just.
[02:05:23]  Train and go to Burritoville.
[02:05:24]  They were in Puerto Rico during the pandemic and they were having a hard time there.
[02:05:28]  And I was like, come to Texas, baby.
[02:05:31]  Come on down.
[02:05:32]  I'll tell you, you're the Pied Piper.
[02:05:35]  They all ended up here.
[02:05:36]  Well, it's a fun place, man.
[02:05:38]  It really is.
[02:05:39]  Well, I heard the whole Puerto Rico thing was good for a while, though.
[02:05:41]  I was talking to Nikki Ride about that.
[02:05:43]  He said it was great.
[02:05:44]  He was like, just being in Puerto Rico with your friends in a frat house training jiu-jitsu all day.
[02:05:48]  It was amazing.

=== Pee Flavored Italian Oh (07:58) ===

[02:05:49]  Well, especially because they were shut down.
[02:05:51]  Yeah.
[02:05:51]  And in Puerto Rico, you have outside, like, you can get light into the room.
[02:05:56]  So it kills the fucking staff.
[02:05:57]  Better, yeah, right.
[02:05:58]  How many guys got staff from that basement jujitsu, right?
[02:06:04]  Right, a lot of people got staff.
[02:06:06]  There's a lot of funk that gets on those mats.
[02:06:09]  That if you're not careful, up his belly with all the antibiotics, that's from staff, dude.
[02:06:15]  My belly, Joe, on the way here, on the way to the JFK, because I always got my issues, but I usually give myself like if I'm going somewhere, like on a car trip or anywhere, I clear out for at least an hour and a half to two hours.
[02:06:28]  Like, I'll give myself my espresso in the morning.
[02:06:31]  Two seltzes, and then I just let it go to work, and I'm pushing on my belly because things get stuck in there.
[02:06:36]  So I thought I gave myself enough time, and I was going to JFK from my house 30 minutes, it was nine in the morning.
[02:06:45]  10 minutes into that fucking car trip, I go, I'm not fucking making it.
[02:06:49]  I go, I'm not, I go, I'm not.
[02:06:51]  And the guy was, my driver was such a good guy.
[02:06:54]  What a nice guy.
[02:06:55]  I gave him a fifth, I gave him a fucking tip, good tip.
[02:06:57]  So we're driving, I go, I go, Lyle, let me just keep watching videos on my phone.
[02:07:02]  I'm like, let me just try to let my mind go somewhere.
[02:07:05]  The clock wasn't moving.
[02:07:06]  I look back, I go, that's another minute.
[02:07:07]  I go, I'm not, there's no way I'm making this.
[02:07:09]  So I'm on the Bell Park way.
[02:07:11]  It's not like you could just pull over.
[02:07:13]  So I go, you know, I go, I go, buddy, I go, I go, I'm sorry, man.
[02:07:18]  I go, I'm not gonna make it.
[02:07:19]  I go, we got a pullover.
[02:07:22]  He goes, oh, there's nowhere really to pull over.
[02:07:25]  You want me to take an egg?
[02:07:26]  I go, go off an egg.
[02:07:27]  I go, you're going to have to do something.
[02:07:30]  I go, I'm not making it.
[02:07:31]  I go, can I get you?
[02:07:32]  I go, can I have your 7 Eleven cup?
[02:07:34]  I go, he goes, oh, do you have to pee?
[02:07:35]  I go, no, I'm going to shit in your cup.
[02:07:37]  I go, no, I go, I'm sorry.
[02:07:39]  I go, I'm sorry, sir.
[02:07:40]  I go, but I go, I go, I knew it was, it's just, it's going to happen.
[02:07:44]  And it's my biggest fucking fear.
[02:07:46]  And it's coming to life.
[02:07:47]  So this guy, no, it's okay.
[02:07:50]  No, it's okay.
[02:07:51]  He got over.
[02:07:51]  We almost hit a fucking car.
[02:07:53]  I'm on the side.
[02:07:55]  There's not even bushes or anything.
[02:07:57]  There was some, like, some, like, uh, nobody could see you.
[02:08:00]  Everybody saw me.
[02:08:01]  No, this guy could be on the top of your head.
[02:08:03]  I got out.
[02:08:05]  As I'm taking my pants down, fucking, I'm going, thank goodness I made it.
[02:08:10]  And fuck, I get back in.
[02:08:11]  I go, buddy.
[02:08:12]  You shit in the cup?
[02:08:13]  No, I didn't shit.
[02:08:14]  I just pissed.
[02:08:15]  Oh.
[02:08:15]  But it's like, well, I mean, I felt my asshole purp bubbles, but nothing.
[02:08:22]  You know, when you feel like, you know, what does it?
[02:08:24]  It's like that with you when you have to pee too?
[02:08:27]  Sometimes I have to do both.
[02:08:30]  I have to pee, but I know to really get it all out, I have to push it.
[02:08:34]  Hey, everybody, how's my ass?
[02:08:36]  So, with pee though, you can't just hold pee?
[02:08:40]  Man, I can, but not to this.
[02:08:43]  Not like how you used to be able to?
[02:08:44]  Well, it's not like.
[02:08:46]  It's one of those things where.
[02:08:48]  I have to clear out in the morning, and I thought I totally cleared out, but sometimes I'm like, all right, I'm good.
[02:08:53]  I pushed out totally.
[02:08:54]  And then it kind of just gets something else in the chamber or something.
[02:08:57]  I'm like, oh no, there's still something left.
[02:09:00]  So we're driving, and I'm like, when I get the feeling, it's such a horrible feeling because it's not about willpower.
[02:09:09]  It's not about thinking of something.
[02:09:10]  I'm like, dude, it's gonna fucking happen.
[02:09:14]  This is the day that I just piss myself.
[02:09:16]  It's gonna, but thank you, dude, I gave a custom tag.
[02:09:18]  It was $78.
[02:09:20]  For the trip, I gave him a $50 tip.
[02:09:22]  I go, dude, thank you, bro.
[02:09:24]  You're a fucking hero.
[02:09:25]  This guy fucking saved my fucking ass.
[02:09:28]  And because someone else, I'm like, they'd be like, hey, dude, fuck off with it.
[02:09:32]  Like, or, or don't do this in my car, right?
[02:09:34]  Dude, I'm like, it's happening.
[02:09:36]  I go, give me a cup.
[02:09:38]  He's like, oh, do you have to pee?
[02:09:39]  I go, obviously, but I, dude, he made it, but I couldn't, dude, I fucking a 30 minute drive there, I couldn't fucking make it.
[02:09:48]  That's crazy, it's scary, but as you get older, it's hard to hold it, man.
[02:09:52]  But no, I think it's my ulcerative colitis has to do with that, it has something to do with that, but because that sounds crazy.
[02:09:58]  The dude, I, it's, it was, I. I've had it before, but like, I don't know if I told you, I maybe said it the last time here.
[02:10:06]  We were going to an aquarium out east with my family.
[02:10:09]  And it was one of those things, just like this.
[02:10:10]  And I get out of the car, and then we're looking, and I'm like, I can, and then I see there's like a line out the door.
[02:10:15]  I go, I'm not making this.
[02:10:16]  There's no way I'm making this.
[02:10:17]  So I go, honey, she goes, okay, go, go.
[02:10:20]  So I fucking, there's like a post office with those bushes that come straight up, like they're all tight together.
[02:10:26]  I fucking smoosh myself through.
[02:10:29]  The second I take my dick out, fucking bees come around my fucking head.
[02:10:34]  I go, dude, I'm gonna get stuck.
[02:10:35]  Because I'm not going out with my dick and fucking.
[02:10:39]  I didn't get stung, but I definitely had some on the front of my pants.
[02:10:46]  What are you going to do?
[02:10:47]  Sometimes.
[02:10:48]  I'm a very clean person.
[02:10:49]  So to block out, you're not related to that?
[02:10:51]  Imagine being a woman in that situation.
[02:10:53]  Ooh, man.
[02:10:53]  Right?
[02:10:54]  There's no hardening it.
[02:10:55]  Oh, hardening it.
[02:10:56]  But, yeah, man.
[02:10:57]  These are the things you got to deal with when you get older a little bit.
[02:11:00]  I am getting my stem cells.
[02:11:02]  That's hopefully going to help.
[02:11:03]  What is the cause of ulcerative colitis?
[02:11:06]  What do they say causes it?
[02:11:07]  Ah.
[02:11:09]  I don't know.
[02:11:09]  I mean, I think some of it's my history.
[02:11:12]  I know one of my brothers had Crohn's, which is even worse.
[02:11:14]  Crohn's disease to level up.
[02:11:16]  Yeah, man.
[02:11:16]  Like, so I know my grandfather, when he was getting older, though, he had some shit.
[02:11:20]  Have you ever, like, swore off pasta?
[02:11:22]  Well.
[02:11:23]  Just, like, taken months off just gluten-free.
[02:11:26]  I went, like, try to go carnivore?
[02:11:28]  I did go gluten-free for a while, you know?
[02:11:31]  But, you know, even espresso.
[02:11:34]  I go, come on, man.
[02:11:34]  I got to have it.
[02:11:35]  Listen, I know.
[02:11:36]  I'm with you.
[02:11:36]  Every time I go to New York, I have to eat Italian food.
[02:11:38]  Food.
[02:11:39]  Like, I'm looking forward to the Jersey shows so I can get some fucking New Jersey Italian food.
[02:11:44]  I gotta take you to Taglios, bro.
[02:11:46]  You'll love this pizza.
[02:11:47]  Let's go.
[02:11:47]  You loved it.
[02:11:48]  Oh, yeah.
[02:11:48]  I'm trying to come up next week, sure.
[02:11:50]  I'm sure I love it.
[02:11:50]  I'm sure I love pizza.
[02:11:52]  No, no, just their fucking, no bleach, no probate.
[02:11:55]  Don't get me started with this.
[02:11:56]  But it's so, because I could eat it.
[02:11:58]  I could eat three slices on the way to my school and I'm not fucked up.
[02:12:02]  I could train and it's fucking, if I did that with a fucking regular slice of pizza, dude, I want to take a nap.
[02:12:08]  You know?
[02:12:08]  So it's, even my wife now orders the zero, zero flour, the From a pool of.
[02:12:13]  Yeah.
[02:12:14]  We get that shit.
[02:12:16]  She makes the pizza.
[02:12:17]  She makes fresh bread.
[02:12:18]  I feel like I got a Game of Thrones.
[02:12:19]  I'm dipping it in my soup.
[02:12:21]  That place where I took you to.
[02:12:22]  The Vegas place I took you to.
[02:12:23]  Gaetano's.
[02:12:24]  Yeah.
[02:12:24]  All Italian flour.
[02:12:26]  All handmade pasta.
[02:12:28]  Yeah, tonight we want to go to a place.
[02:12:30]  Hey, let's go.
[02:12:31]  I don't want to fucking do that to him.
[02:12:32]  I don't want to fucking do that to him.
[02:12:34]  Get to my fucking hotel.
[02:12:35]  But I was wondering if you did that, if it would have an effect.
[02:12:38]  You know who cured his fucking ulcerative colitis?
[02:12:42]  George St. Pierre.
[02:12:43]  How did he do that?
[02:12:43]  He said it's one of the reasons why he was stopping fighting.
[02:12:45]  Fasting.
[02:12:47]  Really?
[02:12:48]  Yeah.
[02:12:49]  Interesting.
[02:12:49]  Fasting did that?
[02:12:50]  That's what he told me.
[02:12:51]  That's what he said.
[02:12:52]  I mean, but he does some hardcore, like, week long shit.
[02:12:55]  Yeah, he does, like, at least three, right?
[02:12:57]  Three days.
[02:12:58]  Nah, I can't do that.
[02:12:59]  I do 24 hours sometimes.
[02:13:01]  Yeah, but that's not that hard.
[02:13:03]  Yeah, I mean, you stay busy enough.
[02:13:05]  I think if you're busy, definitely.
[02:13:07]  You can just eat a big dinner.
[02:13:08]  What a cherry tola.
[02:13:09]  Don't eat to the next dinner.
[02:13:10]  What is that?
[02:13:11]  Cherry tola.
[02:13:12]  Oh, dude.
[02:13:13]  You know, you got him all the time.
[02:13:14]  It all started from here.
[02:13:16]  It all started from here.
[02:13:17]  But it is tasty.
[02:13:20]  Ooh, that's delicious.
[02:13:21]  Yeah.
[02:13:21]  Ooh, that's good.
[02:13:22]  I know.
[02:13:23]  I love it.
[02:13:24]  They're illegal in California.
[02:13:26]  They are.
[02:13:26]  Isn't everything?
[02:13:28]  You can't have flavored nicotine in California.
[02:13:30]  What the fuck is that about?
[02:13:32]  Is that like.
[02:13:33]  Because they just want to be able to tell you what to do.
[02:13:35]  Yeah.
[02:13:36]  That's a symptom of the.
[02:13:37]  You can go buy whiskey.
[02:13:39]  You can go to CVS and buy a jug of whiskey and drink yourself to death.
[02:13:43]  But you can't buy flavored.
[02:13:44]  But you cannot buy flavored Zins.
[02:13:47]  You can't buy flavored.

=== Harry Potter Thor Feelings (12:07) ===

[02:13:48]  It makes zero sense.
[02:13:49]  That makes zero sense.
[02:13:50]  You can't buy flavored vapes because they don't want to encourage kids.
[02:13:53]  Because you know how kids are.
[02:13:55]  They just want flavored Zens.
[02:13:59]  I hear him talking about it all the time.
[02:14:01]  He's so fucking stupid.
[02:14:03]  It's so stupid.
[02:14:03]  California is just so dumb.
[02:14:05]  They just want to tell you what to do.
[02:14:06]  It's a bunch of nannies.
[02:14:07]  And if it's legal, they're going to tax it and regulate it.
[02:14:10]  Exactly.
[02:14:10]  And everybody's moving out.
[02:14:12]  People just flee in that state like it's on fire.
[02:14:14]  Everybody's coming here.
[02:14:15]  They're coming here.
[02:14:15]  They're going to Tennessee.
[02:14:16]  They're going to Florida.
[02:14:17]  They're going anywhere.
[02:14:18]  They could just be left the fuck alone.
[02:14:20]  I think hell is where it wants to be.
[02:14:21]  New York's not much better.
[02:14:23]  No, well, hell, everybody's running out of there too.
[02:14:27]  Not me.
[02:14:28]  I'm there for life.
[02:14:29]  I'm not going nowhere.
[02:14:30]  Yeah, it just sucks when the government gets goofy and you're like, what are you talking about?
[02:14:35]  Now that Kathy Holtschel lady is saying, get those people to come back to New York.
[02:14:41]  Remember before?
[02:14:42]  All of you moved to Florida.
[02:14:43]  Yeah, that's what she said.
[02:14:45]  Which is a crazy thing to say.
[02:14:47]  That's a crazy thing to say.
[02:14:49]  It's so delusional.
[02:14:51]  But that lady's nuts anyway.
[02:14:52]  Yeah.
[02:14:53]  She said the vaccines were a gift from God.
[02:14:57]  She talks crazy.
[02:14:58]  It's like people were so tired of Cuomo.
[02:15:00]  They're like, who else?
[02:15:01]  Okay, fine.
[02:15:02]  You run it.
[02:15:03]  You know what I mean?
[02:15:04]  It's like, how would that lady become your best choice?
[02:15:07]  That seems nuts.
[02:15:08]  That makes me concerned that Stephen Corbett is doing the next fucking Lord of the Rings.
[02:15:14]  Who is?
[02:15:15]  He's like, he's writing the movie or something, him and his son.
[02:15:18]  Really?
[02:15:18]  And I know he's a fucking little bit of a.
[02:15:20]  Wait a minute.
[02:15:20]  Colbert?
[02:15:21]  Yeah.
[02:15:21]  Colbert Report?
[02:15:22]  Oh, man.
[02:15:24]  Peter Jackson was making an announcement.
[02:15:26]  I know all the nerd news.
[02:15:27]  Peter Jackson was making an announcement about a new Lord of the Rings movie he's coming out with, and I'm partnering up with.
[02:15:33]  Well, let me show you.
[02:15:34]  And all of a sudden, they go to Stephen Corbett reading a Lord of the Rings book.
[02:15:38]  Oh, hey!
[02:15:38]  You know, they planned it.
[02:15:39]  And he's like, Yeah, I took it from this part of the thing.
[02:15:42]  Is she going to have any dangers?
[02:15:43]  They shit all over.
[02:15:45]  Poor Tolkien.
[02:15:46]  They shit all over his thing.
[02:15:48]  That Rings of Power is just a fucking mess.
[02:15:52]  Piece of shit.
[02:15:53]  What is that?
[02:15:53]  Orcs Rings of Power.
[02:15:55]  Orcs were like, yeah, yeah, they were like, yeah, they had feelings, and they were like, they were like kids, they were like little kids.
[02:16:03]  It was weird.
[02:16:04]  What, yeah, it was what is this?
[02:16:07]  Rings of Power, the Amazon series of The Lord of the Rings, is the biggest pile of shit next to the Acolyte.
[02:16:14]  It's everybody's on our childhood or shit on they on the major franchises that had some really good lore, like everything from Star Trek, what the fuck they did, everything Disney touched, they fucked.
[02:16:27]  Up Marvel, everything.
[02:16:28]  Bro, how do you fuck up orcs?
[02:16:30]  No, no, they weren't terrifying.
[02:16:32]  Yeah, no, they weren't terrifying either.
[02:16:33]  How do you fuck up the Hulk?
[02:16:36]  Explain it.
[02:16:36]  They make him smart and they made him a pussy.
[02:16:38]  Donald's kicked his ass and he never got his balls back if the Donald's kicked his ass.
[02:16:42]  Right?
[02:16:43]  Yeah, that's an orc, bro.
[02:16:45]  Yeah, now watch him move.
[02:16:45]  The dude with the helmet.
[02:16:46]  Click on that dude with the helmet.
[02:16:48]  They look like they have feelings.
[02:16:49]  Jesus Christ.
[02:16:50]  Oh, yeah, they make him go ahead and discriminate against.
[02:16:52]  Oh, no, it's fucking brutal.
[02:16:53]  That guy's got feelings for real?
[02:16:55]  Yeah, he had feelings and yeah.
[02:16:57]  No, they're not supposed to have feelings.
[02:16:58]  There's no more good stuff.
[02:17:00]  They're supposed to be like demons.
[02:17:01]  Nope.
[02:17:02]  Nah, now they're just.
[02:17:03]  That one in the lower right hand corner with the fucking helmet on, look at that.
[02:17:06]  Oh, fuck, yeah.
[02:17:07]  You don't know his backstory.
[02:17:09]  He might be a good guy.
[02:17:10]  They were like, no father, no father.
[02:17:13]  I don't want him to be a good guy.
[02:17:14]  Me neither.
[02:17:15]  I want orcs, old school.
[02:17:17]  Like from the movies.
[02:17:18]  That's why that Night of the Seven Kings was refreshing, because it had no bullshit in it.
[02:17:22]  Hey, look, there you go.
[02:17:23]  Wow, Jesus.
[02:17:25]  Well, give the guy a chance.
[02:17:26]  Who knows?
[02:17:27]  Maybe it's awesome.
[02:17:28]  I'm going to say he had a cameo in Desolation of Smog.
[02:17:32]  Oh, no shit.
[02:17:33]  They did an animated series that, uh, The War of Rohan, which was a piece of shit.
[02:17:38]  They made a girl boss in there.
[02:17:40]  She had, they had all the cool dudes get killed, and the girl's killing everybody, and she knows everything.
[02:17:47]  And they took it from like one, like, she was in like one paragraph and fucking in the thing, and they just gave her this big backstory of being a badass.
[02:17:55]  It's like the Fantastic Four with the female Silver Surfer.
[02:17:58]  She appeared in maybe one or two comics.
[02:18:00]  This bitch is not a main character, no shape, no how, but boom.
[02:18:06]  Is the real Silver Surfer in it too?
[02:18:08]  No.
[02:18:08]  No.
[02:18:09]  They seem silly.
[02:18:10]  Exactly.
[02:18:12]  So there was a female Silver Surfer for a while?
[02:18:14]  No.
[02:18:15]  Like, very sporadically.
[02:18:16]  No, but they were.
[02:18:19]  It was actually his.
[02:18:20]  Now you're getting on my nerd side.
[02:18:22]  Yep.
[02:18:22]  It was his wife before he was the Silver Surfer, like Shalabal, it was his chick.
[02:18:28]  And the Russo brothers, they've been hitting it out of the park with every Marvel movie they did.
[02:18:36]  So they're doing Doomsday, which is basically going to be.
[02:18:40]  They're putting out Endgame again in the theaters.
[02:18:43]  And it's going to be directly.
[02:18:45]  It's going to take place directly.
[02:18:46]  Awesome.
[02:18:47]  Good.
[02:18:48]  Well, I heard Ruin King Thor's coming.
[02:18:50]  I'm fucking ready for that.
[02:18:51]  They did Winter Soldier.
[02:18:53]  It's like the highest level of Thor.
[02:18:54]  Oh, that's fucking cool.
[02:18:58]  Let's keep going.
[02:18:59]  Oh, my God, you're such a nerd.
[02:19:01]  It's fucking great.
[02:19:03]  I don't know what this is coming out of.
[02:19:04]  The highest level of Thor.
[02:19:05]  The highest level of Thor is such a crazy thing for a Grown ass man, big ass, fucking grown ass man, fucking ass level of Thor.
[02:19:15]  That stuff's my WWE.
[02:19:16]  I love that shit because I grew up on the comics.
[02:19:18]  I love comics.
[02:19:19]  They ruined those fucking movies, man.
[02:19:22]  It's fucking Thor, Ragnarok was fun, dude, Love and Thunder, horrible.
[02:19:27]  Oh, here's my friend, the rock monster, and here's his life mate, Bob.
[02:19:32]  What the fuck?
[02:19:33]  Why though?
[02:19:33]  What does that have to do with anything?
[02:19:34]  You got to give credit to the DC movies then because they never ruined Batman.
[02:19:41]  The most recent Batmans, at least, the Christian Bale Batmans, and then the new one, Robert Pattinson.
[02:19:46]  It was still pretty dark and like.
[02:19:48]  Dark?
[02:19:48]  Yeah.
[02:19:48]  Just like.
[02:19:49]  Yeah.
[02:19:49]  There was like, there's no bullshit in them.
[02:19:51]  There's no.
[02:19:52]  It wasn't.
[02:19:53]  They fucking murdered that Thor that killed him.
[02:19:55]  And Gore, like, Christian Bale played Gore in that movie.
[02:19:58]  In the comics, that is the fucking best Thor story.
[02:20:02]  Gore's.
[02:20:03]  Like, first off, he didn't love the Mike he did on the movie, but he's killing all the other gods.
[02:20:09]  Like, I mean, Thor, his fucking dad, had to get a whole crew to come and fight this guy, and none of that.
[02:20:15]  Really was showed in the movie at all.
[02:20:18]  It was horrible, Love and Thunder.
[02:20:22]  I didn't know he was such a nerd.
[02:20:24]  Oh, for comics.
[02:20:24]  Oh, wow.
[02:20:25]  I didn't know.
[02:20:26]  Why didn't they do it like the fucking.
[02:20:28]  Oh, wow.
[02:20:28]  Look at him there.
[02:20:29]  See if you can look in the comics, like the comic version of Gore, because it's not even close.
[02:20:34]  So this is already out.
[02:20:34]  He turned into this.
[02:20:35]  This is already out.
[02:20:36]  That was shit, Love and Thunder.
[02:20:37]  Damn, look at his.
[02:20:39]  Click on that with your cursor's on.
[02:20:41]  What the fuck, man?
[02:20:42]  Yeah, they wrecked.
[02:20:43]  He was a perfect guy to play it, but they just ruined the character.
[02:20:45]  Yeah, you can't blame Christian.
[02:20:46]  And bail.
[02:20:47]  Yeah, they should have done it just by the comic books.
[02:20:49]  You shouldn't be able to rewrite history like that and fuck it up.
[02:20:53]  See if it's Gore the God Butcher.
[02:20:56]  Yeah, that's Ruin King Thor, just in case you were wondering.
[02:20:59]  Jesus Christ.
[02:21:00]  How many Thor's are there?
[02:21:01]  How many Thor's are there?
[02:21:03]  Oh, it's the same guy.
[02:21:04]  It's just levels.
[02:21:05]  Oh.
[02:21:07]  Explain that.
[02:21:07]  Uh oh.
[02:21:08]  Whoa.
[02:21:09]  That's from the movie.
[02:21:10]  Damn, he looks good in the movie.
[02:21:11]  That's pretty dope.
[02:21:12]  It's probably also just a rendering because I don't know that they've shown stuff like this.
[02:21:16]  When does the movie come out?
[02:21:17]  Later this year.
[02:21:17]  Doomsday comes out this year, and so does Dune Messiah.
[02:21:23]  It's a good year to be a nerd.
[02:21:25]  Yeah.
[02:21:25]  Well, the nerd movies sell the best if you think about it.
[02:21:28]  Comics movies are like 100% guaranteed.
[02:21:31]  Harry Potter.
[02:21:32]  Yeah.
[02:21:33]  The Harry Potter show that they're doing on HBO, I've read, find out if this is true.
[02:21:37]  Put this into perplexity, our wonderful AI sponsor.
[02:21:41]  It cost them $100 million each episode.
[02:21:45]  What?
[02:21:45]  The new one that's coming out?
[02:21:47]  This new one, apparently, it's so highly produced.
[02:21:49]  It's like they've risked a billion dollars in this series.
[02:21:54]  It's supposed to be insane.
[02:21:55]  So Harry Potter?
[02:21:56]  But it's Harry Potter.
[02:21:57]  I feel like you can't miss with Harry Potter.
[02:21:59]  Except with trans people.
[02:22:01]  There's a lot of controversy with the casting because they did a race swap with Snape.
[02:22:09]  Snape?
[02:22:10]  He's like a guy that's.
[02:22:12]  $100 million per episode.
[02:22:13]  That's going to be a rough one, man, because his backstory is not good.
[02:22:17]  It hasn't been confirmed yet.
[02:22:18]  Several recent reports claim the budget is around $100 million per episode.
[02:22:22]  Jesus.
[02:22:22]  Seven planned seasons, eight episodes per season, 56 episodes total.
[02:22:26]  That per episode figure implies an estimated total production cost of about.
[02:22:31]  $5.6 billion.
[02:22:33]  It looks like it's done well.
[02:22:34]  I saw the suspicions.
[02:22:36]  How are you?
[02:22:37]  You have to.
[02:22:37]  If you're going to do a Harry Potter, you've got to do it to the maximum.
[02:22:40]  I've got to get into Harry Potter because there's not a lot of black characters in it, but there is one.
[02:22:45]  There's one now.
[02:22:46]  Yeah, they switched into red.
[02:22:47]  But you know what, Harry Potter?
[02:22:49]  Before that, the one character, guess what his name is?
[02:22:53]  I'm not guessing anything.
[02:22:54]  Dean Thomas.
[02:22:55]  Shut the fuck up.
[02:22:56]  I swear to God.
[02:22:57]  Really?
[02:22:57]  I swear to God.
[02:22:58]  Really?
[02:22:58]  I want my royalties for this.
[02:23:00]  I want my royalties.
[02:23:01]  How is it spelled?
[02:23:02]  You got another guy in there.
[02:23:03]  It's definitely not spelled the same way.
[02:23:05]  It is spelled the real way, but.
[02:23:07]  Yeah.
[02:23:07]  There it is.
[02:23:08]  There it is.
[02:23:08]  Dean Thomas, my favorite side character.
[02:23:10]  Yep.
[02:23:12]  Not many blacks.
[02:23:13]  Get out of here.
[02:23:14]  The one is Dean Thomas.
[02:23:15]  So why is it controversial?
[02:23:17]  Because they race swapped each other?
[02:23:18]  Because his backstory was, I think he was in love with.
[02:23:26]  Harry's mom, and then they fucking.
[02:23:28]  I think they all beat him up and stuff.
[02:23:29]  It's just not a good look.
[02:23:30]  Mmm.
[02:23:32]  You know what I mean?
[02:23:32]  Because he plays.
[02:23:33]  Black Snape.
[02:23:34]  So you're implying that they beat him up because he's black?
[02:23:37]  Well, I'm not saying that.
[02:23:38]  I'm just saying it's not.
[02:23:40]  I'm saying to make him like a character that's.
[02:23:46]  I don't know.
[02:23:47]  Why does he look like Meek Mill?
[02:23:49]  It could be interesting.
[02:23:50]  Why does he look like Meek Mill?
[02:23:52]  If they just follow the books, it's going to be amazing.
[02:23:55]  Hey, I. You know, I missed the book.
[02:23:58]  I was a little bit older.
[02:23:59]  My kids loved Harry Potter.
[02:24:01]  You know, people, adults, read the books and shit.
[02:24:03]  I think it's the most successful books of all time.
[02:24:05]  Is it?
[02:24:06]  Yeah.
[02:24:07]  I think so.
[02:24:07]  I think it's like right up there with the Bible.
[02:24:09]  Damn.
[02:24:10]  I feel bad for that lady.
[02:24:11]  Find that out.
[02:24:11]  Put that into perspective.
[02:24:13]  She got crucified for just.
[02:24:14]  Compare the sales of Harry Potter to the.
[02:24:16]  She snuck their guns, though.
[02:24:17]  She got crucified for being logical and reasonable and telling the truth and trying to protect women.
[02:24:22]  And all these fucking people, these actors are still saying she said problematic things.
[02:24:26]  I want to hold them down.
[02:24:28]  Say, tell me what she said that's problematic.
[02:24:29]  Yeah, that was a bit unfair to her.
[02:24:31]  I'll just go to it.
[02:24:32]  There was an article written about this one actor that did it where it said he is more concerned with being on the right side of Hollywood than the right side of history.
[02:24:41]  And that's accurate.
[02:24:42]  Yeah.
[02:24:43]  Because these people all don't want to offend these dorks in Hollywood that are out of their fucking minds.
[02:24:47]  Enormously commercially, what does that mean?
[02:24:52]  Enormously commercially successful, but the Bible has sold far more copies overall.
[02:24:57]  Harry Potter series has sold over 500 million copies.
[02:25:00]  Estimated for the Bible is around 5 to 6 billion copies.
[02:25:05]  How many copies of the Quran have been printed?
[02:25:11]  There's also multiple versions of the Bible, and there's seven books of Harry Potter.
[02:25:14]  So, yeah, there's not seven, you know.
[02:25:16]  Right, right, right, right.
[02:25:18]  You could break it down.
[02:25:18]  So, there's 45 books in the Bible, and those are all sold.
[02:25:22]  Yeah, but most people buy it as the Bible.
[02:25:23]  Correct, I know, but there's also the King James Bible, there's the New Testament Bible.
[02:25:27]  And there's the Old Testament, and yeah.
[02:25:30]  So, by fewer copies, Harry Potter book sales are estimated to have generated about $7.7 billion in revenue.
[02:25:36]  There's not a Harry Potter in every hotel room in the country either.
[02:25:40]  That's true.
[02:25:41]  That's a good point.
[02:25:41]  That's a good point.
[02:25:43]  Yeah, they keep that Bible in that hotel room just in case.
[02:25:45]  Right?
[02:25:46]  That's a weird thing, right?
[02:25:47]  Yeah, why do they do that?
[02:25:49]  I think someone donated it.
[02:25:51]  Like, there was a Bill Hicks joke he did about it back in the day.

=== Quake Doom Deserve Tanks (05:55) ===

[02:25:55]  I forget.
[02:25:56]  There was a name on the Bible.
[02:25:57]  Like, it was a da da da Bible.
[02:25:59]  Like, one family donated Bibles to every hotel room.
[02:26:04]  The Gideon Bible?
[02:26:05]  I think that's it.
[02:26:05]  Is that it?
[02:26:06]  Might be.
[02:26:06]  I mean, I might be one of the names.
[02:26:08]  The Gideon family.
[02:26:08]  I think that was part of the joke.
[02:26:10]  Who the fuck are the Gideons?
[02:26:11]  I was so depressed when I got here.
[02:26:13]  I brought my MetaQuest.
[02:26:15]  And I realized I brought two right controllers.
[02:26:17]  I'm like, no!
[02:26:19]  I had my headset on.
[02:26:21]  I'm like, no, no, no, no!
[02:26:25]  I'm playing a game now, a new game.
[02:26:27]  What's the game?
[02:26:29]  Jamie, get ready for this.
[02:26:30]  Forefront.
[02:26:32]  16 on 16.
[02:26:34]  There's tanks, there's fucking choppers.
[02:26:37]  F O R E front.
[02:26:40]  It is.
[02:26:41]  Forget about POP 1, forget about contractors.
[02:26:43]  I know I hyped them up on here before.
[02:26:45]  This fucking game is just pure adrenaline.
[02:26:51]  Okay, I just wanted to state that.
[02:26:52]  I just wanted to get that out.
[02:26:54]  Joe, I'm telling you, you used to like the Quake shit.
[02:26:57]  Yeah, I want to see what it looks like.
[02:26:58]  Show me what it looks like.
[02:26:59]  Forefront is so good.
[02:27:01]  Here it is.
[02:27:01]  This is it.
[02:27:02]  16 on 16.
[02:27:02]  Yeah, that's, but where's the gameplay?
[02:27:05]  This is the, you have to, you have to, I love the sniping.
[02:27:08]  Oh, you give me my behemoth and I am fucking taking people out.
[02:27:13]  Did you just bring that dude back to life?
[02:27:14]  Yeah, to get him a better refrigerator.
[02:27:17]  But it is so, look at the tanks.
[02:27:20]  But you're seeing this through your VR.
[02:27:22]  It is so much fun.
[02:27:23]  Me and my brother in law, Edwin, we go on this motherfucker and we take souls.
[02:27:28]  You can get on a bike?
[02:27:29]  You could do the four wheeler.
[02:27:31]  They have anti aircraft.
[02:27:33]  They have carriers, ACPs.
[02:27:35]  They have tanks.
[02:27:36]  How do you have a life outside of this?
[02:27:39]  Well, I don't.
[02:27:40]  That's the problem with these things.
[02:27:41]  Listen, I have a house of women, you know?
[02:27:44]  They're watching Love on the Spectrum and I'm playing this.
[02:27:48]  The problem is, these are too good.
[02:27:49]  They're too fun.
[02:27:50]  They could take your whole life away.
[02:27:52]  No, I got a two hour time limit on my.
[02:27:54]  I play until my battery dies.
[02:27:55]  That's good.
[02:27:56]  You know?
[02:27:57]  Two hours, that's all those things last?
[02:27:59]  Yeah, around that hour and a half.
[02:28:01]  Hey, after a day of making people more dangerous, do my podcast.
[02:28:05]  You know, I deserve it.
[02:28:06]  I deserve it.
[02:28:07]  No, you deserve it.
[02:28:08]  I'm just scared.
[02:28:09]  I'm scared.
[02:28:10]  I watch it.
[02:28:10]  I get scared.
[02:28:11]  You should.
[02:28:11]  Hey, we could squat up.
[02:28:13]  No, Go on.
[02:28:15]  You would get addicted to this.
[02:28:16]  No, no, no.
[02:28:16]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:28:17]  It's a real problem.
[02:28:19]  Yeah.
[02:28:20]  It was like.
[02:28:20]  I can't play these things.
[02:28:21]  It was like a crackhead that couldn't get his light to work into the.
[02:28:24]  I was like, ah!
[02:28:25]  No!
[02:28:27]  Because that's how I like to kill time here when I'm fucking.
[02:28:29]  I made a decision a long time ago to never bring a gaming setup with me on the road.
[02:28:34]  I'm like, I can't do it.
[02:28:36]  Yeah.
[02:28:36]  Everywhere he goes, I start playing.
[02:28:38]  I'll be up to 4 o'clock in the morning.
[02:28:41]  I'll be like any first person shooter where you're running around a map and there's another dude on the map and you've got to get a rocket launcher and fuck him up.
[02:28:48]  It starts to feel real.
[02:28:49]  It feels very real.
[02:28:50]  Me last night, then I had to go back.
[02:28:52]  What is this one?
[02:28:53]  Old fashioned.
[02:28:53]  Oh, this is Doom.
[02:28:55]  Oh my God, it's Doom.
[02:28:57]  It's Doom in VR.
[02:28:59]  Oh no, this is a problem.
[02:29:00]  I gotta find this.
[02:29:01]  But Doom is.
[02:29:02]  I actually think this is the second player of Quake.
[02:29:05]  Yeah.
[02:29:06]  Oh, it is Quake 1.
[02:29:07]  Yeah.
[02:29:07]  Oh, wow.
[02:29:08]  You like the Quake stuff, though.
[02:29:10]  Love it.
[02:29:11]  But I'm more of a Quake 3 Arena guy.
[02:29:14]  Four.
[02:29:14]  Because Quake 3 Arena, like, show them some Quake 3 Arena.
[02:29:17]  They got the graphics down and then they had it set up where everything was online.
[02:29:22]  So, you didn't have to buy the new version of Quake and download it to your computer and run it and play it.
[02:29:28]  No, it's online.
[02:29:29]  So, you just log in and you're playing this streaming.
[02:29:32]  And it's fucking phenomenal.
[02:29:34]  It's like that now.
[02:29:35]  With the meta, you just get updates.
[02:29:36]  Show some highlights of gameplay so you can see what it looks like.
[02:29:39]  It's supposed to be the VR version.
[02:29:40]  Here it is.
[02:29:41]  Oh, this is the VR version?
[02:29:42]  Oh, Jesus Christ.
[02:29:44]  Why are you showing me this?
[02:29:46]  Don't show me this.
[02:29:47]  Because I was going to tell you next that the Apple Vision Pro is being updated now so we can play with higher.
[02:29:51]  Shut the fuck up.
[02:29:52]  Don't do this to me, dude.
[02:29:53]  Don't do this to me.
[02:29:54]  This is my game.
[02:29:55]  I fucking love this shit.
[02:29:56]  As if you had a Starlink, I could do this on the plane.
[02:29:58]  Shut the fuck up.
[02:29:59]  Oh, you're just kidding.
[02:30:00]  I'm not doing this.
[02:30:01]  Is it a battle royale?
[02:30:02]  You just got to kill everybody?
[02:30:03]  Yeah.
[02:30:04]  The problem is, man, I start doing it, and if I start fucking people up, I can't stop.
[02:30:08]  It's fun, dude.
[02:30:09]  And I got pretty good at it.
[02:30:11]  Not like, you know, I could win tournaments good, but I got pretty good at it.
[02:30:15]  Like, I fucked these guys up.
[02:30:16]  The dudes in the studio, I fucked up.
[02:30:18]  Oh, dude.
[02:30:19]  I would get real addicted to it.
[02:30:21]  Yeah, that's a problem.
[02:30:22]  And then I start playing online and just going into rooms.
[02:30:24]  Next thing you know, yep, your life is ruined.
[02:30:26]  Oh, this is one of my favorite maps.
[02:30:28]  You bounce out to this one and everybody can see you, so they're all sniping you when you try to come back.
[02:30:31]  When you get the god power, now you just fucking destroy everyone.
[02:30:36]  You're right.
[02:30:36]  You're speaking my language.
[02:30:38]  Yeah, look at this, bro.
[02:30:38]  You got a rail gun, precision movement.
[02:30:40]  Boom, look at that.
[02:30:41]  That's the rail.
[02:30:42]  Look at the rail gun, bro.
[02:30:44]  You got to have super accuracy.
[02:30:46]  Boom.
[02:30:47]  And while you got god power, you just have to hit him once.
[02:30:49]  Boom.
[02:30:51]  Boom, look at that.
[02:30:52]  Oh, shit.
[02:30:53]  This guy's got timing.
[02:30:56]  This is a dick.
[02:30:57]  This is like, I'm watching people smoke crack, and I'm going, oh, give me that pipe, baby.
[02:31:04]  Give me that pipe.
[02:31:05]  It's so funny.
[02:31:06]  But if that was VR, I would never have a life.
[02:31:08]  I don't have a life.
[02:31:09]  I can't do it.
[02:31:10]  It just helps balance me out.
[02:31:13]  You know what it's like, dude?
[02:31:14]  It's like jujitsu if you never got tired.
[02:31:16]  Oh, yeah.
[02:31:17]  Well, that's why you have the battery life on it.
[02:31:19]  That thing gets tired.
[02:31:20]  Imagine jujitsu if you never got tired.
[02:31:22]  You just do it all day.
[02:31:23]  If you never got hurt, you never got tired.
[02:31:24]  You would just be training constantly.
[02:31:26]  Especially if you were fucking people up.
[02:31:27]  Oh, my God.
[02:31:28]  Always winning and tapping people out.
[02:31:29]  Once you got to a certain level.
[02:31:31]  I mean, this is to me straight crack.
[02:31:34]  Oh, dude, that looks fun.
[02:31:35]  Come on, how fun is this game?
[02:31:36]  You're swapping weapons instantaneously, and you have certain weapons set to different keys.
[02:31:40]  Like, my railgun is always this middle of the wheel button.
[02:31:44]  I hit that motherfucker, I get the railgun, and you can adjust the speed of your mouse depending on the weapon.

=== Grow Younger Guys Hang (02:51) ===

[02:31:51]  Do you hear the other players?
[02:31:52]  Do they complain when you use a certain weapon?
[02:31:54]  I don't know if they use that with this.
[02:31:58]  I never did.
[02:31:58]  I don't.
[02:31:59]  When you chat with Quake, you would have.
[02:32:01]  To pull the menu down and chat.
[02:32:02]  If you have a bunch of people talking while you're playing, it's going to ruin your game experience.
[02:32:05]  Yeah, sometimes with this, with the forefront.
[02:32:08]  I don't want anybody talking shit.
[02:32:09]  I just want to kill you.
[02:32:10]  They're like, Good job.
[02:32:12]  Yeah, good job, Unk.
[02:32:13]  They call me Unk.
[02:32:14]  Good job, Unk.
[02:32:15]  You had to use a shotgun, pussy.
[02:32:17]  I'm like, You know, I try to be mature.
[02:32:19]  I'm like, You're dead, you little fuck.
[02:32:20]  You're dead.
[02:32:21]  You should use a shotgun, cocksucker.
[02:32:24]  Yeah, they complain when I kill them.
[02:32:25]  They're like, What are you, 30?
[02:32:26]  You're playing a game?
[02:32:27]  I'm like, Well, I'm actually 50.
[02:32:31]  Thank you, kid.
[02:32:34]  I'll take 30.
[02:32:36]  I'm like, well, I remember when I was in high school, I found out Madonna was 26.
[02:32:40]  I was like, oh, she's old.
[02:32:44]  Dude, I remember getting ready for a fight at 35.
[02:32:47]  I was getting ready for Trigg, and I had Gian Vellante there.
[02:32:49]  Now he's older than this now.
[02:32:50]  He's like, dude, how does it feel to be 35?
[02:32:52]  I go, dude, fuck you.
[02:32:53]  I'm still fighting.
[02:32:55]  Fuck you.
[02:32:56]  You know, I bring that up to him now.
[02:32:57]  He's like 40 now.
[02:32:58]  I say, you caught up to me a little, you know?
[02:33:00]  Yeah, man.
[02:33:02]  It's weird.
[02:33:02]  We're all dying.
[02:33:03]  I know.
[02:33:04]  I mean, I think about it.
[02:33:05]  We don't have much time left.
[02:33:07]  I'm 58.
[02:33:08]  What are you, Johnny?
[02:33:10]  57.
[02:33:10]  Damn.
[02:33:10]  Oh, you guys could have worked in high school together.
[02:33:12]  You're the class above them.
[02:33:14]  I'm 51.
[02:33:15]  Young man!
[02:33:16]  I'm still only 49.
[02:33:17]  You're full of shit.
[02:33:18]  I'm 49.
[02:33:19]  Keeping it together.
[02:33:20]  Yeah.
[02:33:20]  All right.
[02:33:20]  I like it.
[02:33:21]  I thought you would be like a Brazilian.
[02:33:22]  Jodrigo Gracie used to lie about his fucking age like a chick.
[02:33:26]  Dude, you're my age.
[02:33:28]  What does he say fucking 29 still?
[02:33:29]  What are you talking about?
[02:33:31]  No one knows how old Yoel is.
[02:33:33]  Yeah, I bet.
[02:33:34]  He's probably older.
[02:33:36]  I know.
[02:33:36]  He might be older.
[02:33:38]  It does feel weird when you say 51.
[02:33:40]  Like when I say 51, I'm like, well, 50s.
[02:33:42]  And I'm all when you're younger, you never really picture you'll be at me, too.
[02:33:45]  I'm almost 60.
[02:33:46]  I mean, when we were growing up, though, 60 was broken down.
[02:33:49]  Yeah, it's a big difference.
[02:33:50]  Shout out to Ways to Well, yeah, right?
[02:33:52]  Yeah, life med for me at home.
[02:33:54]  Ways to Well, you look at you hang out with younger guys because I hang out with all younger guys.
[02:33:59]  You're in the gym, you're with younger people, yeah.
[02:34:01]  I'm always with younger comics, unless it's Ron White, right?
[02:34:04]  It's those worlds.
[02:34:05]  And I bet you, when you hang out with Ron White, it doesn't feel like you're hanging out with an old man, no, it's like me and Longo, he's awesome, he's a gem, yeah.
[02:34:13]  Longo's 67.
[02:34:14]  He'll just say, he'll.
[02:34:16]  Throw away something that'll just be so funny where I'll be dying laughing.
[02:34:20]  He's a naturally funny dude and just a sweetheart of a guy.
[02:34:23]  He was good in tires, also.
[02:34:24]  Oh, he's great.
[02:34:25]  I like that show.
[02:34:26]  Yeah, well, you know, he's homies with Shane.
[02:34:28]  Shane's always there, too.
[02:34:31]  Tonight, it's but that's again like young people that are doing the thing we all love to do, having fun, just just like a jujitsu gym, just like anything else.
[02:34:39]  You know, I mean, this idea that you have to one day grow up like that's not true.

=== Benefit Footwork Think Teabag (03:46) ===

[02:34:43]  I'm here to tell you, it's not true.
[02:34:44]  You should grow up in some ways, like be a good dad, take care of your taxes, you know, that kind of stuff.
[02:34:49]  Well, you're looking at me after that.
[02:34:51]  After that, shut up, shut up, have fun.
[02:34:53]  Oh, that's that's me in a nutshell.
[02:34:56]  Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you playing those games, just don't tell those kids how old you are.
[02:35:01]  I know, dude.
[02:35:02]  You call me an old man, you're like, this guy sounds.
[02:35:04]  30.
[02:35:05]  I'm like, you little fuck.
[02:35:06]  Yeah.
[02:35:07]  But it's.
[02:35:07]  God knows.
[02:35:08]  Don't have a heart attack for real.
[02:35:10]  You have to take any shit breaks in the middle of your VR experiences?
[02:35:14]  No, but.
[02:35:14]  You wear a diaper?
[02:35:16]  I'm not above teabagging those little bastards when they get wise.
[02:35:20]  I'm squatting down on them in my fucking thing in my VR.
[02:35:22]  You teabag a guy after you kill him?
[02:35:24]  They get mouthy.
[02:35:25]  I will teabag some of them.
[02:35:26]  I don't give a fuck.
[02:35:27]  You don't outgrow that.
[02:35:29]  So you actually squat physically and it does it?
[02:35:32]  Maybe.
[02:35:33]  My wife's like, what are you doing?
[02:35:34]  I'm like, give me a moment.
[02:35:35]  He deserves it, honey.
[02:35:36]  Fuck you.
[02:35:38]  Crazy.
[02:35:39]  Listen.
[02:35:39]  That's crazy.
[02:35:40]  Sometimes it's different than a video control.
[02:35:43]  You're actually squatting.
[02:35:44]  That's crazy.
[02:35:45]  I can get my squats in.
[02:35:47]  Have you seen those multi directional treadmills that you're doing those games on now?
[02:35:51]  Yeah, but I'm not running.
[02:35:51]  My knees aren't good for that.
[02:35:53]  So there's a treadmill, like a circle, and it goes in any direction, omnidirectional, I think they call it.
[02:35:57]  And you're strapped in with a harness that you can shoot from.
[02:36:00]  And you just move.
[02:36:01]  You move like you're running.
[02:36:02]  You would be in insane shape.
[02:36:04]  There would be some people in better shape.
[02:36:06]  Oh, do you?
[02:36:07]  You would think how good that would be for your footwork?
[02:36:10]  Like, if you could have a VR, there's a good VR boxing game.
[02:36:14]  And one of the things that I noticed when I was playing it was my feet were hurting.
[02:36:18]  Because I was doing it on concrete, on cement, and I was wearing like Converse All Stars, and you just push it off your feet all the time.
[02:36:25]  I was like, oh my God, I'm getting a footwork out.
[02:36:27]  This is crazy.
[02:36:28]  Like, it was gassing me out.
[02:36:29]  Because you really see the guy, and he pops you, everything goes white.
[02:36:32]  Like, you got stunned, like, boom, oh shit.
[02:36:35]  And you got to get them back, right?
[02:36:36]  And you're moving, you're moving around stuff.
[02:36:38]  There's a bunch of them.
[02:36:39]  I got to get into those.
[02:36:40]  It is tiring.
[02:36:41]  I've done that before.
[02:36:42]  What's stupid is.
[02:36:43]  When you hold the gloves, like if you hold the hand things like this, it shows the gloves like this.
[02:36:50]  So when you're punching, it looks like you're punching them wrong.
[02:36:53]  So it fucks your head up.
[02:36:54]  Yeah.
[02:36:55]  You know what I mean?
[02:36:55]  So when you're twisting to punch, it's showing this and it fucks your head up.
[02:36:59]  Just give it a fucking wing chung punch.
[02:37:01]  Yeah.
[02:37:01]  Right.
[02:37:02]  So like if you punch like this, it'll look like the knuckles are coming up, but you're doing this.
[02:37:06]  Oh, yeah.
[02:37:07]  Then you figure, how can't they get that?
[02:37:08]  They should get that right.
[02:37:09]  It should be where your hands are positioned.
[02:37:11]  Exactly.
[02:37:12]  So if you hold it like that, it should be the gloves are like that.
[02:37:14]  And then you turn it like that and it looks.
[02:37:15]  So that way, it doesn't fuck with your head while you're punching that thing because it's weird.
[02:37:19]  Clearly, the developers weren't bots.
[02:37:21]  They just had programmers and fixed that.
[02:37:23]  But I think there's some real benefit in it for real because, first of all, it's harder to hit air than it is to hit a thing, right?
[02:37:30]  So you get a little workout doing that.
[02:37:31]  The things don't weigh much, but you'd always put like a little wrist weight or something like that, or someone could make a controller that has lead in it that has a couple of pounds for each one.
[02:37:41]  You would get good endurance doing it, and you're doing a lot of footwork drills because, like, you're Lomachenko and it's definitely moving around.
[02:37:47]  It's good for you.
[02:37:48]  And it's also showing you how to move away from things and counter.
[02:37:53]  There's a bunch of different things that you could actually apply.
[02:37:56]  It's better than real shadow boxing.
[02:37:57]  Yeah, I was about to say, it's like intense, extreme shadow boxing.
[02:38:01]  Yes, yes.
[02:38:02]  It's like you're really visualizing because there's an actual thing in front of you.
[02:38:06]  I think there's benefit to it.
[02:38:07]  I think it would help you.
[02:38:08]  I mean, 100% I think there'd be benefit.
[02:38:11]  Yeah, and you're not getting hit, right?
[02:38:13]  So it's timing work.
[02:38:14]  You're not getting the CTE along with it.
[02:38:17]  It's not going to replace sparring.
[02:38:19]  You're always going to need to spar.
[02:38:20]  But it'll give you a lot of like neural pathways to different movements that you'll have like programmed in you in a fight with zero consequences.

=== Punisher Dolph Lundgren Played (04:26) ===

[02:38:29]  Right.
[02:38:29]  That's great.
[02:38:30]  Yeah.
[02:38:31]  You can't do it with jujitsu, unfortunately.
[02:38:33]  But you probably could with a robot one day.
[02:38:35]  Right.
[02:38:36]  Like you get a good AI robot, you know, that's not going to spaz out on you and rip your fucking head off.
[02:38:43]  I would never trust that, right?
[02:38:44]  Imagine the AI got mad if you just tapped so many times.
[02:38:47]  I'm going to show you my real strength.
[02:38:49]  Yeah.
[02:38:50]  Dean, in this next role, I'm not going to go easy.
[02:38:53]  What?
[02:38:54]  What do you mean?
[02:38:54]  I'm watching.
[02:38:55]  You know what?
[02:38:56]  Fuck your eyes out.
[02:38:57]  You got me.
[02:38:57]  You fucking heel hook.
[02:38:59]  Only because they look human, the Cyclons.
[02:39:02]  I'm watching the Battlestar Galactica.
[02:39:04]  I started watching it.
[02:39:05]  It's great.
[02:39:05]  It's really good.
[02:39:06]  It's really good.
[02:39:07]  I thought, what is that on?
[02:39:08]  I'm almost on the first season.
[02:39:09]  It was on the Sci Fi Network years ago.
[02:39:12]  It was an unappreciated series.
[02:39:15]  It's one of the greatest sci fi series of all time.
[02:39:18]  The reboot of Battlestar Galactica.
[02:39:20]  And I was super skeptical.
[02:39:22]  Because Battlestar Galactica, when I was a kid, I loved it.
[02:39:25]  Yeah, everybody.
[02:39:26]  It was a big.
[02:39:26]  Super campy.
[02:39:27]  It was a very campy.
[02:39:29]  All of a sudden, Skywalker was a girl now.
[02:39:31]  It's like, what?
[02:39:32]  Or Starbucks.
[02:39:33]  Starbucks was a girl now.
[02:39:34]  Katie's amazing.
[02:39:35]  She's great now.
[02:39:36]  That fucking series rules, dude.
[02:39:38]  It's great.
[02:39:39]  It's great writing.
[02:39:41]  I'm on the first season.
[02:39:42]  I'm almost done with it now.
[02:39:43]  I got like an episode left.
[02:39:44]  Way better than the original series.
[02:39:46]  It's really fucking good.
[02:39:47]  It's phenomenal.
[02:39:48]  It's really good.
[02:39:49]  And the Cylons scare the fuck out of you.
[02:39:51]  And they're hot chicks.
[02:39:52]  Yeah.
[02:39:52]  It's awesome.
[02:39:53]  It's ruined your life.
[02:39:54]  Oh, my favorite.
[02:39:56]  Oh, it's good.
[02:39:56]  Yeah, everybody's favorite.
[02:39:58]  It's great.
[02:39:59]  It's a great.
[02:40:00]  Fucking series, John James Elmos or whatever.
[02:40:03]  James Elmos, yeah, he was great in that.
[02:40:04]  Is he alive?
[02:40:06]  Did he die?
[02:40:07]  I don't know.
[02:40:08]  James Almos, is he alive?
[02:40:09]  Is it now?
[02:40:10]  There's no way.
[02:40:10]  Edward James, Edward James Almos, that's right.
[02:40:13]  He was great in that.
[02:40:14]  He's great.
[02:40:14]  Yeah, Mexican prison movie.
[02:40:16]  Remember that?
[02:40:17]  Yeah, what was that?
[02:40:18]  Blood in, blood out.
[02:40:19]  You got in trouble with that.
[02:40:21]  They wanted to kill him because they made it out like these dudes were fucking each other in jail.
[02:40:26]  Oh, they're not?
[02:40:28]  Yeah.
[02:40:28]  Even if they are.
[02:40:29]  Yeah.
[02:40:30]  Don't talk about it.
[02:40:31]  Yeah.
[02:40:32]  Snitches get stitches.
[02:40:33]  Yeah, man.
[02:40:34]  I think people died because of that movie.
[02:40:35]  No.
[02:40:36]  Yeah, I think people were killed.
[02:40:37]  I heard something about that.
[02:40:39]  Yeah.
[02:40:41]  Makes you not want to go to jail.
[02:40:42]  Well, I just don't think they let these dudes know how they were going to portray him in jail.
[02:40:47]  And I think, you know.
[02:40:48]  Yeah, they weren't happy about that.
[02:40:51]  Severe disrespect.
[02:40:53]  Is he alive?
[02:40:53]  Edward James Olmos?
[02:40:55]  Yes.
[02:40:56]  Oh, good for him.
[02:40:57]  79.
[02:40:57]  He's phenomenal on that show.
[02:40:59]  Phenomenal on that show.
[02:41:00]  Yeah.
[02:41:01]  It's a great show.
[02:41:02]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:41:04]  I think I heard you talking about it, and I put it in there.
[02:41:06]  I got it on Amazon Prime.
[02:41:07]  I bought the first season.
[02:41:08]  It's fucking good.
[02:41:09]  There's another Amazon series.
[02:41:11]  What's it called?
[02:41:12]  Not The Eclipse.
[02:41:14]  The Expanse.
[02:41:14]  Yes, yes.
[02:41:15]  That's supposed to be phenomenal.
[02:41:16]  I watched a bunch of those.
[02:41:17]  I got to get back into that.
[02:41:19]  Sometimes it gets a little chatty.
[02:41:20]  I watched a couple of them.
[02:41:21]  I was like, I see this could be really good, but my wife wasn't into it, so we abandoned it.
[02:41:25]  It's good.
[02:41:26]  I keep hearing.
[02:41:27]  I keep hearing.
[02:41:28]  I hear once you get past the first few episodes, it really picks up.
[02:41:31]  Yeah, it's good.
[02:41:32]  It has Thomas Jane.
[02:41:36]  What's Thomas Jane?
[02:41:37]  Oh, yeah, he played the Punisher.
[02:41:38]  Yeah, he's in at least the first season.
[02:41:41]  It's good.
[02:41:42]  The guy who's the lead guy reminds me of Jon Snow.
[02:41:45]  Really?
[02:41:45]  He looks like a skinnier Jon Snow.
[02:41:48]  John Bernthal played the Punisher, right?
[02:41:50]  Yeah.
[02:41:51]  There's a bunch of people who played him.
[02:41:52]  How many people played the Punisher?
[02:41:53]  Well, I mean, the guy from Run.
[02:41:56]  Did Dolph Lundgren do it before?
[02:41:57]  Yeah, that's back in the day.
[02:41:59]  Way back in the day.
[02:41:59]  Dolph Lundgren did?
[02:42:00]  They had at least four or five of them.
[02:42:02]  They gave him fakes double, and it was obvious.
[02:42:04]  It was like literally, the makeup lady didn't even try.
[02:42:07]  She just smudged some face.
[02:42:09]  It's the worst looking face stubble you've ever seen in your fucking life.
[02:42:14]  See if you can find that.
[02:42:15]  Dolph Lundgren face stubble from The Punisher.
[02:42:18]  It's like you're looking at that and go, just leave him unshaven.
[02:42:21]  Yeah, he was cool as him.
[02:42:23]  There you go.
[02:42:24]  There's the guy from Rome, Stevenson.
[02:42:25]  I know, but you can't see it in there.
[02:42:27]  Like a photo from the actual movie, it looked like, why does he have smudges all over his cheeks?
[02:42:33]  Yeah, I like Barenthal the best.
[02:42:35]  The new Spider Man movie, he's going to be in it.
[02:42:37]  The Punisher.
[02:42:38]  The Punisher's supposed to be gigantic, though.
[02:42:40]  He's supposed to be like that dude that plays Reaper.
[02:42:44]  I thought Ray Stevenson was a Reaper.
[02:42:45]  Oh, Reacher.
[02:42:46]  Yeah, Adam Richmond.
[02:42:48]  He's supposed to be like Adam Richmond.
[02:42:49]  That's what the Punisher's supposed to be.
[02:42:51]  He's supposed to be a giant jack dude who kills everybody.
[02:42:53]  And good for Reacher for smacking that guy around.

=== Smack Randleman Armpit Knock (06:21) ===

[02:42:56]  That guy deserved it.
[02:42:57]  That guy deserved it.
[02:42:57]  He looks like he's riding with his kids.
[02:42:59]  The guy got in his face, made him drop his bike, got in his face again.
[02:43:03]  He deserved the smack.
[02:43:04]  He pushed him off his bike.
[02:43:05]  Yeah.
[02:43:06]  What the hell?
[02:43:06]  That guy looked like a retard.
[02:43:07]  Well, he said he was drunk.
[02:43:09]  So the guy smelled like booze.
[02:43:10]  I know shit.
[02:43:11]  Smack him up.
[02:43:11]  He was asking, they showed the cops' version of the video when they went to his house.
[02:43:15]  He's like, Could you run a toxicology on that guy?
[02:43:17]  Because I think he's drunk.
[02:43:18]  He smelled like liquor.
[02:43:19]  The guy tried to knock him up.
[02:43:20]  But you see that guy?
[02:43:21]  What are you doing?
[02:43:22]  Why are you pushing that guy?
[02:43:23]  He's real lucky he had that camera on.
[02:43:25]  You know what I mean?
[02:43:26]  Oh, 100%.
[02:43:27]  Because if you only got to see him beating that guy up, that would have been a real fucking problem.
[02:43:32]  Because that guy denied it.
[02:43:33]  But he had a camera going on his chest pack.
[02:43:36]  Luckily.
[02:43:37]  You see that guy grabbing the bike and pushing him.
[02:43:39]  Yeah.
[02:43:40]  Got to put hands on him first.
[02:43:41]  In front of kids, man.
[02:43:43]  So many people out there.
[02:43:44]  If you're on a bike and you fall and the bike falls in your leg, like you fucking idiot.
[02:43:48]  Yeah.
[02:43:48]  You know, that's dangerous.
[02:43:49]  You break someone's fucking leg that way, you Trump fuck.
[02:43:52]  100% warranted.
[02:43:54]  When I went to go see that Project Hail Mary the other day, dude, these motherfuckers, I got the second row and sure enough, the first row, like five teenagers, dude, they don't even, they have their phone and it's bright and you see it.
[02:44:10]  Like they don't give a fuck.
[02:44:12]  The lady, there's a couple next to me, older.
[02:44:15]  The lady comes out, she takes the thing out.
[02:44:18]  I'm like, I feel like saying, you should know better, lady.
[02:44:22]  What the fuck?
[02:44:23]  And the kids, I want to, a couple times I got up and then they put it down.
[02:44:29]  I'm like, I know I'm going to say something.
[02:44:31]  And if I get the wrong response, am I going to smack a 15 year old?
[02:44:35]  Am I going to smack, if I get a fuck you guy, what's going to happen?
[02:44:40]  Because I'm not totally normal.
[02:44:42]  I mean, you know what I mean?
[02:44:45]  I just don't want to, because there's right and there's wrong.
[02:44:48]  A whole generation has not been checked.
[02:44:50]  They're going to get smacked because they're valiant.
[02:44:52]  100%.
[02:44:52]  And I just see UFC fighter smacks 15 year old.
[02:44:55]  I'm like, no.
[02:44:56]  I just see that happening.
[02:44:58]  But anyway, I got out of there without nothing.
[02:45:00]  But it's just so annoying.
[02:45:01]  It's all annoying.
[02:45:02]  Kids are so addicted to their phones.
[02:45:04]  They can't put them down for five seconds.
[02:45:05]  Just how it hurts.
[02:45:06]  And who cares?
[02:45:07]  Yeah, it's crazy.
[02:45:07]  In movie theater, they can't stop texting people.
[02:45:09]  Yeah.
[02:45:10]  Because they're not enjoying anything.
[02:45:11]  Everything they're doing, they're getting distracted.
[02:45:13]  Yeah.
[02:45:14]  Yeah.
[02:45:14]  Which is crazy.
[02:45:15]  I feel like talking to their parents.
[02:45:17]  That's not going to help.
[02:45:18]  You know?
[02:45:19]  No, you got to smack them.
[02:45:21]  Someone's got to smack them.
[02:45:22]  Yeah.
[02:45:22]  Man.
[02:45:23]  I'll tell you.
[02:45:24]  That happened.
[02:45:25]  Our generation, if you acted a fool, you got slapped.
[02:45:27]  Yeah, if you talk mouth in a movie theater, someone's going to get up.
[02:45:30]  You know, if you were loud in a movie theater, people would get up and, hey, shut the fuck up.
[02:45:34]  Yeah.
[02:45:34]  Like, I've seen that happen many times in movie theaters.
[02:45:37]  Yeah.
[02:45:37]  People almost get in fights.
[02:45:39]  They don't do that no more.
[02:45:42]  There's no repercussions, I think.
[02:45:45]  What did Mike Tyson say?
[02:45:47]  What did he say?
[02:45:47]  He said something like, a lot of people are getting used to talking shit without getting snacked or something.
[02:45:51]  Until you get punched in the face.
[02:45:52]  Something like that, yeah.
[02:45:53]  And it's just true.
[02:45:54]  Like, people just don't worry about anything.
[02:45:56]  You know, but there's also so many streamers that are doing these things online where they're provoking people on purpose that it's almost like normalizing.
[02:46:04]  I hate that, yeah.
[02:46:05]  I like when they get smacked, yeah.
[02:46:06]  They think it's like they're creating content by harassing these people, fucking with old people, like just walking up to people in the store and yeah, doing to them.
[02:46:15]  I don't, I don't understand it.
[02:46:16]  Tiki elbowed that kid in the face.
[02:46:19]  Oh, yeah, you know what?
[02:46:20]  Fuck that kid, he's starting with everybody.
[02:46:22]  I was, yeah, dude.
[02:46:23]  I mean, that's, I mean, I looked at that, I'm like, that's warranted.
[02:46:26]  I mean, you're in my face, tell me you're gonna fuck me up, I could do this.
[02:46:29]  He said he's gonna fuck him up, and then he got.
[02:46:31]  Close to them, like you're gonna bump into them, yeah.
[02:46:33]  But I mean, and you know what?
[02:46:35]  They don't even give a shit because they get clicks.
[02:46:36]  I don't think they give a shit.
[02:46:37]  That's because that's because like they're getting hit by like regular people, except for the tiki case, but they're getting by regular people.
[02:46:43]  Like, I'm waiting for the opportunity to lay these for five on somebody's chin.
[02:46:51]  They'll be the first time they'll put somebody as charges, they'll press charges, they'll sue you.
[02:46:56]  I know, also, you know, if you knock somebody out and they fall and hit their head and die, that's a fucking problem, and that's a real possibility, yeah.
[02:47:04]  Body shots.
[02:47:04]  Strangle him and lay him down.
[02:47:06]  That liver shot.
[02:47:06]  Right, but you know you're not going to throw a body shot.
[02:47:08]  Oh, yeah, it's awesome.
[02:47:09]  This dummy's gotten a fight with the former UFC heavyweight champion, the current bare knuckle boxing champion in the world.
[02:47:15]  You dumbasses.
[02:47:16]  That was hilarious when I saw this.
[02:47:18]  Look, he's just teeing off on dudes.
[02:47:19]  Imagine you getting Andre Orlovsky's face.
[02:47:22]  How the fuck do you not know who he is, first of all?
[02:47:24]  Again, my point is exactly how do you not know who Andre Orlovsky is?
[02:47:28]  And then they got their bodyguards next to them to try to.
[02:47:31]  Shout out to that dude.
[02:47:33]  Oh, Alasky's a stud.
[02:47:35]  Yeah.
[02:47:35]  I mean, he's still getting after it, and he still seems to enjoy it.
[02:47:39]  Like almost 30 years into games.
[02:47:41]  And he's the guy that you kind of wrote off his chin a while ago, and then all of a sudden it's like, I never saw a chin make a comeback.
[02:47:46]  Oh, incredible comeback.
[02:47:48]  Dude, Freddie Roach said he thought he could really be a contender if he just had a proper chin.
[02:47:53]  He said his boxing skills were there.
[02:47:56]  Well, I mean, there were so many times where he got clipped.
[02:47:59]  Like the Fedor one was the wildest.
[02:48:01]  He was winning that fight.
[02:48:02]  Yeah, he was.
[02:48:02]  Dude, he was good.
[02:48:04]  Yeah, he was.
[02:48:05]  He was in the middle of a jumping knee.
[02:48:07]  Yeah, he was.
[02:48:08]  Big mistake.
[02:48:08]  Laces out moment right there.
[02:48:10]  Fedor, that motherfucker just found ways to win.
[02:48:13]  He just found ways to win, man.
[02:48:15]  Sure did.
[02:48:15]  Remember when Randleman.
[02:48:16]  Was it Randleman?
[02:48:17]  I was like, he still beat him, yeah.
[02:48:19]  He still fixed him on his neck.
[02:48:21]  Yeah.
[02:48:21]  Then he camoured him.
[02:48:22]  Yeah, like.
[02:48:23]  It ain't easy to camoure a gorilla.
[02:48:25]  You know what I'm saying?
[02:48:26]  Randleman was so explosive.
[02:48:28]  It was so fast.
[02:48:29]  That guy was just nothing but saying switch muscle fiber.
[02:48:33]  Pre-USAG 100, 100.
[02:48:34]  Right?
[02:48:35]  He had the worst staff I've ever seen in my life.
[02:48:38]  Oh, there was a leg, right?
[02:48:39]  He had holes in his armpit.
[02:48:41]  Oh.
[02:48:41]  He lifted his armpit up, and you could see the skin was gone.
[02:48:44]  You could see the tendons and all the ligaments underneath it.
[02:48:46]  See if you can find it, Jamie.
[02:48:48]  It's the craziest thing because staff, if you don't get that shit treated right away and you let it get systemic, I mean, it probably led to his early demise.
[02:48:56]  It probably was something that led to him dying early.
[02:48:58]  Rest in peace.
[02:48:59]  Look at that.
[02:49:00]  That's his armpit.
[02:49:01]  That's his armpit, dude.
[02:49:03]  Keep his fucking wallet in there.
[02:49:05]  You know how crazy that is?
[02:49:06]  You know how crazy that kind of hole is and what that does to your body?
[02:49:09]  God damn.
[02:49:10]  Because it's not, even when that heals up, like it's going to take a long time before your body gets back to normal.
[02:49:15]  Oof, man.
[02:49:16]  Staff's scary, man.

=== Recluse Brown Long Range (02:33) ===

[02:49:17]  Staff's real scary.
[02:49:18]  Oh, come on, man.
[02:49:19]  I want to say.
[02:49:20]  I want to say.
[02:49:24]  Pete Spratt fought a fight when he didn't fight one.
[02:49:27]  He got bit by a fucking hole in it.
[02:49:31]  Well, those are scary.
[02:49:32]  Those fuckers.
[02:49:33]  Damn.
[02:49:33]  They necrotize you.
[02:49:36]  Their venom burns a hole through your muscle tissue.
[02:49:38]  Oh, it's horrible.
[02:49:40]  You ever see brown recluse spider bites?
[02:49:42]  No.
[02:49:43]  It's like first it just swells up and you get like a big zit on it and then it eventually eats the tissue underneath the venom.
[02:49:49]  Fucking spiders.
[02:49:51]  Yeah, you got to get that treated right away.
[02:49:52]  And even then, it's like really dangerous.
[02:49:55]  People die from it.
[02:49:56]  Brown recluse are scary fucking spiders.
[02:49:58]  See if you can find brown recluse spider injury.
[02:50:03]  Nasty, dude.
[02:50:03]  Yeah.
[02:50:04]  Yeah.
[02:50:05]  Creepy little fucking bugs out there.
[02:50:07]  I'm gonna get the eggplant rollatini later.
[02:50:10]  We'll see what else we have.
[02:50:13]  I just wanna show you one more gross thing, and then we can move on.
[02:50:16]  Land.
[02:50:19]  Dang.
[02:50:20]  Yeah, look at that shit, man.
[02:50:21]  Come on, man.
[02:50:22]  Was that a water balloon?
[02:50:24]  Ooh, that burns a hole in you.
[02:50:27]  Yo, where do those things live at?
[02:50:28]  I don't wanna get bit by that.
[02:50:29]  Texas.
[02:50:30]  They're all over the place.
[02:50:31]  Get me out of here.
[02:50:32]  They're all over the place.
[02:50:33]  We're so lucky they're little.
[02:50:36]  You got that shit out here, those things?
[02:50:37]  But imagine that I was as big as a bear.
[02:50:39]  Yeah.
[02:50:40]  Take over the planet.
[02:50:41]  This is why we're here.
[02:50:42]  This Ladger of Praying Man is as big as a bear.
[02:50:44]  Dude, in Long Island, I guess we just got some assholes out there, but we don't got to worry about fucking.
[02:50:48]  We don't got to worry about no fucking things getting our flesh off and shit.
[02:50:54]  It's a few serial killers.
[02:50:55]  Yeah, a few serial killers.
[02:50:58]  Guys wearing wife beaters.
[02:51:00]  That's it.
[02:51:00]  I was just watching this video where they said the most popular job for serial killers is those long range truckers.
[02:51:06]  Makes sense.
[02:51:07]  Yeah.
[02:51:08]  I mean, you're on the road, you've got a lot of access to a lot of different people.
[02:51:11]  Yeah, and also you think you just keep it moving.
[02:51:13]  Yeah, keep it moving.
[02:51:15]  Before they even know what happened, you're gone.
[02:51:17]  Yeah.
[02:51:19]  There's a bunch of them that are linked potentially to long range truckers that they've never solved.
[02:51:24]  Really?
[02:51:25]  Yeah.
[02:51:26]  They don't catch a lot of those guys.
[02:51:28]  That's what's fucked up.
[02:51:29]  You want to think that life's like a movie where they catch them all and they don't get them in the end?
[02:51:34]  But random killers are some of the hardest to catch because they just show up, kill somebody, leave.
[02:51:38]  And there's no rhyme or reason to it.
[02:51:40]  They just wanted to kill somebody.
[02:51:41]  So there's no motive.
[02:51:42]  It's hard to tell.
[02:51:44]  And if they've done it and not gotten caught for a few years, if they're clever.
[02:51:47]  Like a lot of these guys, like the Zodiac Killer, he was brilliant.

=== Still Fuck Controlled Environment (09:06) ===

[02:51:50]  He wrote things in code.
[02:51:52]  They had the.
[02:51:53]  I don't even know if they ever cracked all of it.
[02:51:56]  They still don't know who the fuck it was.
[02:51:57]  They did that movie.
[02:51:58]  Yeah, I saw that movie, right?
[02:52:00]  Yeah, they kind of made it like it was the Janata guy.
[02:52:03]  I don't think they know.
[02:52:05]  I mean, unless there's some new data, unless there's some new information, I think it's an unsolved mystery.
[02:52:10]  But he was obviously brilliant.
[02:52:12]  So you got a really smart guy who's just randomly killing people, and he's also taunting you with letters, leaving letters behind.
[02:52:20]  It's got to be a little more difficult now with all the cameras and shit.
[02:52:23]  What has John Dunn ever been up to?
[02:52:25]  Does he have an alibi?
[02:52:26]  Does he have an alibi from Guido Beach?
[02:52:29]  Was he in New York at that time?
[02:52:30]  Yeah.
[02:52:33]  The Dark Lord.
[02:52:34]  Trying out new techniques.
[02:52:35]  Yeah.
[02:52:35]  It's fucking great.
[02:52:37]  Yeah.
[02:52:38]  All right, boys.
[02:52:39]  Should we wrap this up?
[02:52:40]  Man.
[02:52:41]  Good times.
[02:52:41]  Oh, one more thing we should probably talk about.
[02:52:44]  Uh,.
[02:52:45]  The White House card.
[02:52:46]  Ooh.
[02:52:47]  Yeah.
[02:52:47]  You going?
[02:52:49]  Yeah, unless things get crazy between now and then.
[02:52:52]  But the idea of them fighting outside in Washington, D.C. in the middle of the summer, it's nice, humid, sunny, and heat.
[02:53:00]  It's crazy to me.
[02:53:01]  You ask someone to dehydrate themselves, to cut weight.
[02:53:04]  You know, I mean, think about Gaichi.
[02:53:07]  Gaichi's going to cut, he's got to cut to get to 55.
[02:53:10]  Ilya probably doesn't have to cut too much.
[02:53:12]  But you're fighting for the world title, and you're fighting outside.
[02:53:16]  That's.
[02:53:17]  The noontime has now been corrected, which is.
[02:53:20]  Hey, we get good weather.
[02:53:22]  So, the pay per view or the main card starts at 8 p.m. Eastern.
[02:53:26]  Hey, I was in the middle.
[02:53:27]  I was in Abu Dhabi when they did that.
[02:53:29]  That's a little better.
[02:53:30]  Yeah, but also, it can rain.
[02:53:32]  Yeah, it could easily rain.
[02:53:34]  There's going to be bugs.
[02:53:35]  Imagine getting lit up by mosquitoes while you're mounting a guy and you hear him and you hear him.
[02:53:42]  Will they put a tent up over the?
[02:53:44]  I don't know what they're going to do.
[02:53:45]  Dude, back in the day, they had King of Cage and it was like raining out and shit.
[02:53:48]  It was called Wetlanders.
[02:53:49]  Wetlanders.
[02:53:51]  Yeah.
[02:53:51]  It's a mess.
[02:53:53]  Fights outside are a mess.
[02:53:54]  It's a mess.
[02:53:54]  It's a terrible idea.
[02:53:55]  I hate it.
[02:53:56]  There was a couple inches of rain in that cage.
[02:53:58]  That was a crazy show.
[02:54:00]  If you're fighting in an elite world championship level, you should be fighting in a controlled environment.
[02:54:04]  Period.
[02:54:05]  Right.
[02:54:05]  It's already a problem enough to fight, to deal with the way it is.
[02:54:08]  Yeah, why cause the extra factors?
[02:54:09]  Yeah, and all these different variables.
[02:54:12]  You might not get the best fighter.
[02:54:14]  Right.
[02:54:15]  And it also might severely impair someone who's gone through a big weight cut.
[02:54:19]  If it's really hot out, I don't know what it's going to be like, but we looked it up.
[02:54:23]  Wasn't it last year?
[02:54:24]  At that same date, I think that was 2024, but still, it's like.
[02:54:29]  It was what?
[02:54:29]  It was like 100 degrees there.
[02:54:31]  100, yeah, yeah.
[02:54:32]  Dude, I live it there.
[02:54:33]  I live in Baltimore.
[02:54:35]  It'll be hot and humid.
[02:54:37]  Everybody's dealing with the same thing, though, so it's not like somebody's got something different to do.
[02:54:41]  Right, but it's not fair.
[02:54:43]  Because people deal with them differently.
[02:54:44]  If you're having world championship fights where you're going to decide who's the best in the world, it should be in a controlled environment.
[02:54:52]  Yeah.
[02:54:53]  You know?
[02:54:54]  The White House, baby.
[02:54:56]  It's still the fuck.
[02:54:57]  We were not legal in New York when I was fighting.
[02:55:00]  And now we're at the fucking White House.
[02:55:01]  It's crazy.
[02:55:02]  That is wild.
[02:55:02]  It's crazy that they're doing it.
[02:55:04]  I support all crazy things.
[02:55:07]  I'm going too.
[02:55:08]  Yeah, we have to.
[02:55:09]  Yeah, I just, yeah.
[02:55:09]  You have to.
[02:55:10]  It's your job.
[02:55:10]  I just, yeah, I just got the call for clearance.
[02:55:13]  I'm going.
[02:55:15]  I'll be watching on Paramount Plus.
[02:55:18]  Yeah.
[02:55:19]  Jimmy wanted to go.
[02:55:20]  He said, can we go?
[02:55:21]  I'm like, oh.
[02:55:23]  I'm like, how many people are going to be outside in the audience?
[02:55:26]  That's the question.
[02:55:27]  I don't know.
[02:55:27]  Like, how many people are going to be around things?
[02:55:30]  Well, apparently, I think on Saturday's broadcast, they're going to announce how it's going to look.
[02:55:37]  So, that's part of the allure for watching Saturday shows.
[02:55:42]  They're going to announce how it's supposed to look.
[02:55:45]  It's exciting, though.
[02:55:46]  You got to say, fuck it.
[02:55:48]  It's crazy.
[02:55:49]  It's definitely crazy.
[02:55:50]  I mean, it's a cool thing.
[02:55:51]  Only this president would do it.
[02:55:54]  Yeah.
[02:55:54]  Yeah.
[02:55:54]  This card, you're saying?
[02:55:55]  This card coming up?
[02:55:55]  Yeah, Saturdays?
[02:55:56]  Oh, yeah, Saturdays is a very good card.
[02:55:58]  I'm telling you, the Mirza Kanoff and Paulo Costa ones, the one that I got my eye on, I'm like, that could be very interesting.
[02:56:04]  It'd be very interesting.
[02:56:05]  Because Paulo's a big fucking middleweight.
[02:56:08]  It might do him good later in his career to go up to light heavyweight.
[02:56:11]  I think so.
[02:56:11]  And Mirza Kanoff's not a big light heavyweight.
[02:56:14]  No, he's not.
[02:56:14]  He's only 5'10.
[02:56:15]  Yeah, he's short.
[02:56:16]  Yeah.
[02:56:16]  Oh, he's got weight to cut, too.
[02:56:18]  I mean, he's not exactly.
[02:56:20]  He ain't.
[02:56:20]  No.
[02:56:21]  No, no, no.
[02:56:22]  Not even close.
[02:56:22]  He definitely carries much more body fat on him.
[02:56:24]  Who has he fought?
[02:56:26]  That's close.
[02:56:27]  Has he fought anybody?
[02:56:28]  Rocket, stopped Rocket's first round of his last fight.
[02:56:31]  That's it.
[02:56:32]  But he hasn't, it's been hard for him to get fights.
[02:56:35]  They made Dana a little taller there.
[02:56:37]  Yeah, but they put like an extra in this, and it's the only thing he said would stop the fight.
[02:56:42]  Yeah, well, that could be it.
[02:56:44]  Yeah, that would suck.
[02:56:45]  Imagine if someone died from getting hit by lightning.
[02:56:48]  Yeah, that would be.
[02:56:49]  They raise their hand up at the end of the fight and they get hit by lightning.
[02:56:53]  That'd be a bad look for the UFC, I think.
[02:56:55]  I just don't.
[02:56:56]  Bruce Buffett gets it.
[02:56:57]  I like the idea on paper, but the fact that I'm going to be there.
[02:57:01]  Sequin jacket attracted the lights.
[02:57:03]  Jesus Christ, this is going to be crazy.
[02:57:06]  People are probably going to protest it.
[02:57:08]  It's going to be nuts.
[02:57:09]  Yeah.
[02:57:09]  There's going to be a lot of protesters out there.
[02:57:11]  For sure.
[02:57:12]  All this stuff was well going on in the White House.
[02:57:13]  It might be the wrong place to come and protest because it's going to be a lot of.
[02:57:17]  Pro Trump people in that audience, it could be a mess.
[02:57:21]  Well, that's what they like.
[02:57:23]  You know, a lot of people that are running this world like when there's fights and chaos.
[02:57:26]  Oh, that's a fact.
[02:57:27]  They like rioting and they'll connect it to Trump and they'll spin it and connect it to whatever the fuck they want to.
[02:57:34]  I just want to see some good fights.
[02:57:36]  Cyril Gahn and Pereira is a very good fight.
[02:57:38]  Yeah, it's an interesting fight.
[02:57:40]  Very interesting fight.
[02:57:41]  Just because of Gahn poking everybody in their eyes, I'd be happy to see him lose.
[02:57:45]  But he's, I mean, the size is real and And he's got legit skills.
[02:57:49]  Legit skills.
[02:57:51]  That tie to Ivasa fight.
[02:57:52]  Remember those combinations he was hitting tie with?
[02:57:54]  Acting skills also KO on Netflix.
[02:57:58]  Setting up the South Lawn will begin one month out compared to a few days out in Normal Arena.
[02:58:02]  Dana and Donald will have 200 tickets each to assign to who they want.
[02:58:06]  84 from each will be chosen for a VIP event inside the White House prior to the fights.
[02:58:11]  Most of the rest of the tickets will go to military personnel.
[02:58:14]  The event will have custom fight kits for all fighters on the card.
[02:58:18]  Wow.
[02:58:18]  And then more to come Saturday with.
[02:58:20]  More to come Saturday.
[02:58:21]  So there'll probably be an announcement at the UFC that we'll have to talk about.
[02:58:26]  Should be interesting.
[02:58:27]  Nobody's given Justin a chance here.
[02:58:29]  Justin's a fucking animal, dude.
[02:58:30]  I mean, I love.
[02:58:31]  And look how technical he fought when he had to fight Faziv.
[02:58:34]  Faziv.
[02:58:35]  Yeah.
[02:58:35]  And he's a very technical fighter.
[02:58:37]  Yeah, if you go by the way he fought Patty, he kind of just walked Patty down.
[02:58:41]  He just like was just like, I'm going to create chaos.
[02:58:43]  You also got to kind of give Patty a little break where he did get poked in the fucking eye early.
[02:58:47]  True.
[02:58:48]  True.
[02:58:49]  Did he get more ones?
[02:58:50]  I mean, not.
[02:58:51]  I think too.
[02:58:52]  Gagey fought with staff.
[02:58:54]  Did he?
[02:58:54]  Pretty much everybody thought so.
[02:58:56]  I mean, that thing on his neck.
[02:58:57]  Yeah.
[02:58:57]  He said it wasn't.
[02:58:58]  And he's seen in grown hair.
[02:58:59]  I mean, he can say, you know, he's not going to tell everybody he's got staff before the fight.
[02:59:03]  He could say it after the fight.
[02:59:04]  He looked good, though.
[02:59:04]  You know?
[02:59:05]  He's a fucking animal, too.
[02:59:07]  And the only reason I think that is he doesn't really get tired and he seemed like he's mentally so tough he just pushed through the tired, but you could see he was fatigued at the end of that fight.
[02:59:17]  Well, he's a complicated riddle on the feet, too.
[02:59:20]  He's a good stand up fighter, man.
[02:59:22]  I mean, when he knocked out, Dustin with that head kick.
[02:59:25]  Oh, yeah.
[02:59:25]  I forgot about that.
[02:59:27]  He's fucking good.
[02:59:28]  I'm a Gagey fan.
[02:59:28]  He's cracked.
[02:59:29]  Love to see him do it.
[02:59:31]  In the early days, man, he was one of the wildest guys to watch ever.
[02:59:34]  That Michael Johnson fight was mad.
[02:59:36]  Just madness.
[02:59:37]  It was a pretty crazy fight.
[02:59:38]  He just goes, let's jump off the cliff together.
[02:59:42]  They did a Thelma and Louise there.
[02:59:45]  I mean, that's what he does in those fights, man.
[02:59:47]  He was one of the best early in his career at throwing leg kicks from really close to the cliff.
[02:59:52]  So close.
[02:59:52]  Yeah.
[02:59:54]  He got away from that.
[02:59:55]  I wonder why he got away from that.
[02:59:56]  Yeah.
[02:59:57]  Could be injured shins.
[02:59:59]  You know, it could be knocked a lot of guys out with his hands.
[03:00:01]  Just wanted to do that for him.
[03:00:03]  I mean, I thought that was one of his greatest weapons is being so close to just dig right in.
[03:00:09]  Like a weird flexibility of the hips to be able to do that and generate power from in close.
[03:00:15]  With what?
[03:00:16]  The right hand or the kick?
[03:00:17]  The kick.
[03:00:18]  The kick.
[03:00:18]  Yeah, the kick.
[03:00:19]  He does it in a collar tie.
[03:00:20]  It'll kick you.
[03:00:21]  Nuts.
[03:00:22]  And with power.
[03:00:23]  Yeah.
[03:00:23]  It definitely has a chance.
[03:00:24]  I mean, you know, I mean, people will just.
[03:00:27]  Kind of not even giving him a shot.
[03:00:29]  I'm like, well, that's how good Ilya is.
[03:00:31]  Yeah, no, I get it.
[03:00:33]  He gets hit a lot, and they're just putting the equation together.
[03:00:37]  Ilya, man.
[03:00:38]  Ilya's got that one punch.
[03:00:40]  It's ferocious.
[03:00:41]  And look at the guys he's done it to.
[03:00:42]  You know, Volkanovsky, Charles, Max.
[03:00:48]  In a row.
[03:00:49]  In a row.
[03:00:50]  Ryan Hall.
[03:00:51]  Three KOs in a row against world champions.
[03:00:54]  That's crazy.
[03:00:55]  Guys who are not used to getting put.

=== Round Hit Shot Crazy Max (01:42) ===

[03:00:57]  Yeah.
[03:00:57]  He's a leader.
[03:00:58]  You know, not like, but, you know, think about how durable Charles is.
[03:01:02]  For him, just one shot like that, take him out, that's crazy.
[03:01:05]  That's crazy.
[03:01:06]  For Max.
[03:01:06]  I mean, Max did well in the first round.
[03:01:08]  He did.
[03:01:09]  But until he got hit, he'd never been knocked out.
[03:01:12]  He's a different dude.
[03:01:14]  You know, there's levels that this game achieves as people get better and better and better and watch everyone around them.
[03:01:18]  And Illy is like, this is the next highest level.
[03:01:21]  Right.
[03:01:22]  You know?
[03:01:23]  Now everybody's shooting for that.
[03:01:24]  Boys, a lot of fun.
[03:01:26]  Good time.
[03:01:27]  We're doing this.
[03:01:27]  I love when we do this.
[03:01:28]  It's so fun.
[03:01:29]  This is my favorite podcast.
[03:01:30]  Hey.
[03:01:31]  I love coming out here.
[03:01:32]  It's such a good time.
[03:01:34]  And also, I need to find out what's going on in the nerd world.
[03:01:37]  If you want to find out what's going on in the nerd world, Matt Serra Channel on YouTube.
[03:01:43]  I talk all about that geek shit.
[03:01:45]  That's it.
[03:01:45]  Sometimes I play VR and I do movie reactions where it's like the Mystery Science Theater where I talk to this guy.
[03:01:51]  Talk shit.
[03:01:51]  Yeah.
[03:01:52]  I talk during a movie a lot.
[03:01:54]  Like, Dean, what do you got going on?
[03:01:56]  My movie, Flowers, short film coming out.
[03:01:59]  And I got a new show on Paramount Plus called Deep Waters with Jorge Mazvidalco.
[03:02:04]  Chris Wyman and Dustin Poirier.
[03:02:05]  That starts next Monday.
[03:02:07]  Every Monday.
[03:02:07]  That's the right name.
[03:02:09]  I like the name.
[03:02:10]  Steve Waters coming out.
[03:02:12]  Yep.
[03:02:12]  And we're still doing Ground Control.
[03:02:14]  Just opened a school in Sykesville.
[03:02:16]  Dustin Poirier's actually coming out there in the spot next door to a stratosphere on May 16th.
[03:02:23]  Shogun still going.
[03:02:25]  So groundcontrolusa.com, shogunfights.com, and at Be More MMA.
[03:02:30]  Look at you, bro.
[03:02:31]  Promoter, coach, gym owner.
[03:02:33]  Hustling, hustling.
[03:02:34]  Hustling.
[03:02:34]  All right.
[03:02:35]  Thank you.
[03:02:36]  Thank you guys.
[03:02:36]  Lots of fun.
[03:02:37]  Always fun.
[03:02:37]  Bye, everybody.
[03:02:38]  Bye, guys.