Oct. 18, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:35:51
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unidentified
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The Joe Rogan experience. | |
| Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. | ||
| All day. | ||
| You be getting into AI music at all? | ||
| Uh music. | ||
| A little. | ||
| A little. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| They're taking 50 cent songs. | ||
| I knew you were gonna bring that. | ||
| You've heard many men, right? | ||
| Yes, have you heard What Up Gangsta? | ||
| Nah, nah, let me know. | ||
| No, you haven't. | ||
| The Many Men one is fantastic. | ||
| The Many Men's amazing. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Hold up, hold up. | ||
| Before you hold up, he's not on. | ||
| Oh, my bad, my bad. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| You gotta hear this. | ||
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unidentified
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You gotta do this. | |
| What up, blood? | ||
| What? | ||
| What up, cousin? | ||
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unidentified
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What? | |
| What up, blood? | ||
| Wait till you hear this flow. | ||
| Gangster. | ||
| What up, blood? | ||
| What up, cuz? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| I try not to speak much. | ||
| Guys love to play part, but I hunt a duck nickel down, treated like sport front or me out, but it's throwing you up. | ||
| You stacking paper, I can't get none with your fucking. | ||
| I'm not the type that getting pop for a D Welly. | ||
| I'm the type of stuff that connect when the Coke price times. | ||
| I grew up around Nick because I wanted really home and smaller Dustin. | ||
| The Maca blasted these come through. | ||
| We dump Diesel in the battery casket. | ||
| This flows home. | ||
| The eyes up I ass across me. | ||
| I have your mama picking out the casket bastard. | ||
| I'm on a next peer button, but get Basil Bins pedal to the male steam model then a tea kettle. | ||
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unidentified
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What up? | |
| Go! | ||
| Go! | ||
| What up, gangster? | ||
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unidentified
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This is fantastic. | |
| So how much of this is like one prompt, or is there like a guy working with uh Jamie's the answer to that? | ||
| Because Jamie's done a bunch of them. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, like how much of this is like actually editing and somebody who understands producing music, like constantly prompting. | ||
| No. | ||
| Uh prompt for five words. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Say 1950 soul music. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| And then put in the cigar. | ||
| Let's burn a cigar. | ||
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unidentified
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Let's burn one down, man. | |
| Let's go. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| 50. | ||
| 50's the man. | ||
| Let's be toxic rich dudes. | ||
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unidentified
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Yes, let's do it. | |
| When are we starting? | ||
| Have we started? | ||
| Yeah, we're rolling. | ||
| We're rolling. | ||
| We're rolling. | ||
| Are these your yours personal ones? | ||
| No, these are um from foundation cigars. | ||
| These are uh I don't know what they're called, but these are fucking legit. | ||
| My man. | ||
| What happened to yours? | ||
| I still have those. | ||
| Those are nice. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, those are great. | |
| Yeah, we got a nice little box right here. | ||
| I just opened this box. | ||
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unidentified
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Good day. | |
| Nice. | ||
| Foundation. | ||
| Where are these from? | ||
| Uh probably Nicaragua. | ||
| I think that's where he's got his thing. | ||
| Hey, hello. | ||
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unidentified
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I got you. | |
| What's the rules on that? | ||
| About Nicaragua? | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like a man taking you shopping. | ||
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unidentified
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You're 50 saying that about two. | |
| Why are you gonna take me shopping for? | ||
| Yeah, you know. | ||
| And then he looked at Meek Mills post and they were wearing the same shirt, and with Diddy and Meek were wearing the same shirt. | ||
| He's like, see, that's why I don't let him take me shopping. | ||
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unidentified
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50's so funny. | |
| But you realize how good his lyrics are when you hear him run through AI. | ||
| Yeah, he's like you revisit the lyrics. | ||
| Like the many men lyrics are fantastic. | ||
| Yeah, the many men song it almost works better. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's like uh what is that like 50s? | ||
| Soul. | ||
| Soul, yeah. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Well, if that dude was a real dude, he would be the biggest fucking artist on earth right now. | ||
| If that was his song, if it wasn't written by 50, it was his song, and he put it out right now. | ||
| Everybody be like, oh my god. | ||
| You just picture him looking like just perfect like Cat Williams type suit on stage, you know, just going off, sweating, wiping his head with a towel, full blast. | ||
| Yeah, just like Southern Deacon. | ||
| Fucking 9,000 RPMs. | ||
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unidentified
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Bam! | |
| What up blood? | ||
| I just love the idea of like you working out to 50 soul, 50 cent. | ||
| Oh, I do. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| I do all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, working in there with Wu Tang. | ||
| Wu Tang. | ||
| Wu Tang's my favorite workout music. | ||
| Yeah, Big Daddy Kane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You like all that? | ||
| Being Rock Him. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah, Cool G Rap. | ||
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unidentified
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Have you ever talked to uh do you ever listen to uh EPMD? | |
| Oh fuck yeah. | ||
| You ever talked to like Eric Sermon? | ||
| No, never have. | ||
| No, never have. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| I love those guys. | ||
| I can't believe you and 50 have never connected. | ||
| Like I know everyone. | ||
| I met him once. | ||
| I interviewed him for UFC. | ||
| Long time ago. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Um I don't remember. | ||
| Might have been Vegas. | ||
| It was a UFC event in Vegas, and he was there. | ||
| I don't know if he was releasing something or whatever it was. | ||
| I sat next to him and That shit is harsh. | ||
| It's good, right? | ||
| That's a good one, but that's a strong one. | ||
| That's a Maduro. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I like them robust. | ||
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unidentified
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I bet. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm glad I lit my own. | ||
| Okay, wait, so wait, you met him, you were at the UFC fight and you spoke to him. | ||
| It was a UFC event. | ||
| This is how long ago? | ||
| Oh, a long time ago, man. | ||
| I had hair. | ||
| So it's gotta be pretty. | ||
| There it is right there. | ||
| Oh, so this is like when he's in the middle of his stuff with John. | ||
| I mean, I gotta say this is probably 2007 or something like that. | ||
| But he was always involved with something. | ||
| He was always beefing with somebody. | ||
| Yeah, that was a funny thing. | ||
| Because when I when we were in uh He's in the Street Fighter movie, so we were in Australia filming, like I saw the guys with him, and like I recognized like a couple, like if it's a security, but they didn't look like one guy looked like actual professional security, and I was like, I was like, oh that's that's that guy looks like that's his real job being security. | ||
| Not what I'm used to seeing 50 with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And uh he goes, yeah, man. | ||
| Can't get in the country with felonies, bro. | ||
| I had to bring the clean ones. | ||
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unidentified
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So like the real people that he has around. | |
| Wow. | ||
| He gotta bring clean security. | ||
| Clean security, professionals. | ||
| There's different levels of professionals. | ||
| Yeah, well, there's people that know things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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unidentified
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Sometimes you go to like a city or state and you need to know those things. | |
| I need to know things. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Some people need to know things. | ||
| Sometimes you gotta check in with folks. | ||
| So that's the thing. | ||
| Your guys are the best of it. | ||
| Your guys hit me up, it's just they were like, yeah, there's some crazy chick online. | ||
| She says she wants to kill you, so just don't go to New Mexico. | ||
| And I was like, alright, bet. | ||
| I won't do that. | ||
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unidentified
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They're like they're like, she said she wanted to kill somebody else. | |
| I don't even say their names. | ||
| I don't want to get him in a heap, but like, yeah, as long as you don't go to New Mexico, you should be good. | ||
| I'm like, all right, no plans. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, it's wild times. | |
| Wild times. | ||
| Wild times where people celebrate people getting killed now. | ||
| Like that never happened before. | ||
| Like even when someone bad got killed before, you're like, oh wow, that's kind of crazy. | ||
| I've been thinking a lot about this. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| And I think that like I don't think we all exist in the same reality anymore. | ||
| Not on some multiverse shit, but like just like how we see the world. | ||
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unidentified
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Yes. | |
| Yes. | ||
| And it's like, especially with Charlie's death, because I was in Australia when it happened, so like I had time. | ||
| Like I wasn't doing pods, I wouldn't do a stand-up, I'm just like sitting around in a trailer, I'll do this movie. | ||
| So I like started watching like a bunch of his stuff. | ||
| Also, I want to say he did something really cool. | ||
| Like I didn't really know him, but like you DMed a couple times, but he saw a headline about me once and he DM'd me. | ||
| And like I don't even have a relationship with this guy. | ||
| He goes, This headline looks real little weird. | ||
| Like I know we don't really know each other, but like, is this what you meant? | ||
| And like there are people who I know I've considered colleagues that haven't even afforded that to me. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| He just ran with a headline and like made a video, got clicks, views, or whatever like that. | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| This guy I don't even know, hits me up and goes, is this what you meant? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| I met him once at a gun range. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, I met him at Terran Tactical. | ||
| So I was down there training. | ||
| You know, do you know what Terrence is? | ||
| This is the one where you see like a lot of like celebs. | ||
| The one where you see celebs. | ||
| He trained Keanu Reeves for John Wick. | ||
| He's the man. | ||
| Like Terren Butler is like a multiple time world champion shooter of those, you know, the events that they have where it's timed or a shoot already. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Um, so I met him there. | ||
| Seemed like a real nice guy. | ||
| You know, I didn't know anything about him back then. | ||
| I didn't know much about his beliefs and views that were controversial until after he got killed. | ||
| And then people started sending me stuff, and I was like, okay. | ||
| What's the context of this? | ||
| That's uh he shouldn't have said it that way. | ||
| There was there was some ones that we've talked about before. | ||
| Um one specifically. | ||
| You know, But it looked the fucking guy, first of all, was 31 years old. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| When I was 31, thank God there wasn't like Twitter. | ||
| Or especially when I was 21. | ||
| Oh my god, thank God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| You know, judging like that that's like that Nick Fuentes kid. | ||
| He's like 26. | ||
| Like, thank God. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| It didn't exist when I was fucking 21. | ||
| I was a fucking moron. | ||
| I was a complete moron. | ||
| Like most people, especially if you grow up around morons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But um, I think he he said a few things that if I was his friend, I would say, don't say it like that. | ||
| I know what you're trying to say. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| But don't ever say when I go into a cockpit, I hope that the pilot, if he's black, is qualified. | ||
| I know what you're trying to say. | ||
| You shouldn't hire underqualified pilots. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But saying it like that just because of the color of their skin. | ||
| He's probably not hanging out with black people, not knowing how offensive that's gonna be to them. | ||
| How you gotta go. | ||
| That's not what I meant. | ||
| Like you gotta you gotta that's not what I meant before you say it. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| You gotta run it through the filter, like what am I trying to say? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We all don't want unqualified people to do dangerous fucking jobs, period. | ||
| It doesn't matter what race they are. | ||
| If all of a sudden white people became a minority and they had to start hiring dopey whites, we'd be upset. | ||
| He makes that argument a lot. | ||
| Like he makes it with sports. | ||
| You know, he's like, all right, if the NFL is gonna be 50% black, and you know, like so but again, like the contest because it's taken out. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I think that's what happened. | ||
| Like the the algorithm flattens all of us into a two-dimensional person. | ||
| And like only the views that tap into you know, your biggest insecurities or your biggest fears, not the views, only like the the the lines we say or the videos, whatever that tap into those things. | ||
| Or with terrible things you want confirmed. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| Things you won't confirm. | ||
| Like that's what the algorithm does. | ||
| And like I realized it when I was doing like a promo tour for for life, my last special, right? | ||
| I would go on a couple pods that like and like maybe like 10, 15, 20 minutes into the conversation, they I would realize like, oh wow, they have a very different view of me than me. | ||
| The New York Times won. | ||
| No, well, the New York Times one, I was like expecting it for sure. | ||
| But even when I went on Dax's podcast, Dax knew me, but his uh his co-host, I was like, oh, she has an idea of me that's like cultivated by the internet and heads on shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's just a flattened version, right? | ||
| It's like there's really no humanity in it. | ||
| It's just these are the things that people are saying that I'm saying with no context. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then you just create an archetype. | ||
| And like I think in a lot of ways, that's the Charlie thing to the f furthest extreme, right? | ||
| It's just like if you're on the right, there's one version of Charlie. | ||
| If you're on the left, there's another version of Charlie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And when he died, this person that you saw is like a good God-fearing man, you're like heartbroken by it. | ||
| And then on the left, this person you saw that was like bigoted or hateful, you're like, okay, I'm not really heartbreaking by it. | ||
| Some people are even crazy enough to be like, he deserved it, or this is what you get, right? | ||
| But they can only have that feeling if he's completely dehumanized the version of him that they see all the time. | ||
| That happens to you, it happens to me, it happens to like anybody who's on the internet talking, you know, for a few hours a week. | ||
| And when I saw that shit, and I especially I saw like that this visceral reaction to Charlie, that's what's so sneak so's the insanity in the country because the people on the left are seeing the people on the right be heartbroken, but they're like, Why are you heartbroken over this guy who's a bigot? | ||
| And the people on the right are seeing the people on the left celebrate and they're like, Why are you celebrating the death of this God fearing family man? | ||
| And both sides just think each other is absolutely insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When in reality, he's neither of those cartoons. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Yeah, it was just the life thing when I was talking to those people, I was like, you know, 20 or 30 minutes in the conversation, big, oh wow, like, yeah, you're not kind of who I thought you were. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, because you let people you let people tell you who I was in 30 second clips. | ||
| You know, it's not like I have four hours of podcasting every single week that you can indulge in to figure it out. | ||
| What do they try to label you as? | ||
| Like, what is the what's the angle they take on you? | ||
| Is it your part of the manosphere? | ||
| Oh, you're heterosexual. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| And I hate it. | ||
| Heterosexual is a real problem in this day and age. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, it's uh yeah, I think that like manosphere, I think there's like Rogan verse, like manosphere, like and I think that this is kind of a new iteration post election. | ||
| So I think what a lot of people are are struggling with the fact is they're trying to like find a way that the Democrats lost the election without taking any accountability for like what they were doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's like, oh, because he went on Rogan and Schultz and Theo's podcast. | ||
| That's the reason why he won. | ||
| It's like, no, they they kind of ran a dead guy that was very unpopular, and then they ran a woman that can't really talk that well in front of the camera. | ||
| An open border for four years that freaked everybody out. | ||
| Sure, sure, but like how like in New York, people aren't really worried about the open border. | ||
| Oh, they were. | ||
| You don't think they were? | ||
| I talked to a lot of people in New York that were upset about the migrants that had been shipped there that they were putting it up in the Roosevelt Hotel set was. | ||
| The mining crisis for sure, like New York, I think like affected people. | ||
| I'm not saying it didn't. | ||
| But like I don't think that they attach it to the border. | ||
| I think they're more just like, well, just don't send them here. | ||
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unidentified
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You know what I mean? | |
| Like, you know, just keep them down there or whatever. | ||
| Like you guys chose to live near the border. | ||
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unidentified
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Oh, yeah. | |
| They sent it to Martha's Vineyards. | ||
| Like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| They moved about so quick. | ||
| Martha's Vineyard is all liberals, bro. | ||
| It's all super rich. | ||
| It's Mercedes driving limo. | ||
| It's the NIMBY is a what is it called? | ||
| Not in my backyard. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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unidentified
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Right? | |
| That's like the and there's a, you know, Ezra Klein, do you know, Ezra? | ||
| Yeah, and like Ezra did a great piece, and it's so funny because like he's trying to be reasonable right now. | ||
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unidentified
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He's like trying to have No and they're calling him a right winger. | |
| And I keep and I keep hitting him up and I'm like, bro, you're doing the right thing when there are groups that like hate you because you're actually trying to like win an election, you're trying to be reasonable. | ||
| He had this whole thing about like, hey, the reason why they can build a lot of buildings in Texas and why we can't in Los Angeles is because there are restrictive laws, and people are like, this guy's an animal. | ||
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unidentified
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And I'm just like, all right, buddy. | |
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| So I understand that frustration. | ||
| Shit, I've felt it a million different times. | ||
| Like you try to be nuanced and reasonable. | ||
| There's really no place on the internet for it because why would the algorithm reward anything nuanced and reasonable? | ||
| That's not entertaining. | ||
| I want to see Nick Fuentes talk shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
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unidentified
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Do you know what I mean? | |
| I don't want to see like a thoughtful take from some like TV host. | ||
| You want Sam Hyde. | ||
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unidentified
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I'm getting wild, Sam. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like I it now, does it mean that I agree with these things? | ||
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unidentified
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No. | |
| No, but the algorithm doesn't know what you agree with or not. | ||
| They just know what you click on, share. | ||
| It's part of the fun of the internet in general, is that it's not regulated. | ||
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unidentified
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So when wild people break through and everybody goes, ah Bro, what did the what was the first thing we did with Sora? | |
| You got MLK giving a speech and a down syndrome kid walks up and goes peanut butter. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Well, how about those videos where they had like Trump playing in a band and like there was a like Clinton was on the saxophone? | ||
| Did you ever see those? | ||
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unidentified
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No. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| But like we're gonna make it. | ||
| They're playing Credence Clear Rotter Revival together. | ||
| I mean I still when the down syndrome kid comes up and just says Peter Player. | ||
| It's guilt free because he's not a real person. | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| He's made up, right? | ||
| You can laugh at him. | ||
| We can laugh because it's not a real person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But uh that brings the like what about AI down syndrome porn. | ||
| The sounds would be crazy. | ||
| I mean, we gotta see it just for the sounds, right? | ||
| It's just just Did they just announce that was is open AI doing an erotica version? | ||
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unidentified
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Bean butter. | |
| No, yeah, they they said they wouldn't censor it. | ||
| They're like, it's not our job to be the moral police. | ||
| Oh, well then it's over. | ||
| Then it's Andrew Schultz porn all day long. | ||
| Yo, so that's so that's a crazy thing. | ||
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unidentified
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Can they do listen? | |
| Hey, bro. | ||
| You handsome devil. | ||
| Hey, the mustache. | ||
| Is it it it's isn't moral police of the world after erotica chat GPT post blows up? | ||
| So that's the thing. | ||
| Can you do it? | ||
| Can you make porn with us? | ||
| Or can you just make it with like random? | ||
| 100% can with you. | ||
| With what about you? | ||
| We can't make porn with you. | ||
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unidentified
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Me too. | |
| I just want you to feel it. | ||
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unidentified
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You hit me with the Spider-Man me. | |
| We made porn with you. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Get 'em. | ||
| Well, it's gonna be a real problem with female celebrities. | ||
| And it already has been a problem. | ||
| They face swapped Natalie Portman onto porn stars bodies. | ||
| Remember, they were doing when we were kids with Photoshop. | ||
| The second Photoshop came out. | ||
| Yep, yep, yeah. | ||
| There was like tons of porn. | ||
| Who's the lady that ran for president from Alaska? | ||
| Oh, Sarah Pale. | ||
| Sarah Palin was like every single porn video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, why would they not do it? | ||
| They're doing it. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So the thing is a real thing We won't be upset as long as like we're we're throwing it down. | ||
| Like we'll be upset if like our wives are in it. | ||
| Right, that'll be an issue. | ||
| But if somebody makes a porn where I got like a huge cock and I'm just fucking shit up. | ||
| But the problem is it's gonna be your wife getting teamed on. | ||
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It won't even be like why are we putting these things out there in the world? | |
| Why do you keep giving them ideas? | ||
| The internet is a dangerous place. | ||
| And it always ends up with me getting fucked. | ||
| Uh yeah, the world's dark right now with this because there's no rules and people are just it's sort of like if you gave the world matches for the first time. | ||
| And they're like, I could just start a fire. | ||
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unidentified
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Do you think they did that initially when they created fire? | |
| They're like, we need some rules for this shit. | ||
| For sure should. | ||
| I mean, I thought about it. | ||
| Was that like the original? | ||
| Is it that I don't even have to have a license to have one of the most powerful forces in the world at the palm of my hand and I could be six. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Imagine after the Chicago fire, right? | ||
| Like eighty percent of the city is decimated. | ||
| I don't even know what year that is. | ||
| Probably eighteen hundreds or something like that. | ||
| Did they say, hmm, maybe we gotta take matches away from these motherfuckers. | ||
| Or like fireplaces or something. | ||
| Like I bet they didn't let you build a house out of wood anymore. | ||
| Houses are made out of wood. | ||
| Yeah, but we need concrete or something. | ||
| Like we need another. | ||
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unidentified
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Why'd they do it? | |
| Probably for structural rigidity and um like from the cold, it's better l if you have like I wouldn't I would imagine there's a bunch of reasons to make something out of brick. | ||
| It's more it's hard to get into. | ||
| Oh, I imagine you may have light on fire. | ||
| Concrete is I mean, they're making by the way, they they probably should do this a long time ago, but they're they're making fireproof houses now and like Malibu and place like that, rich people. | ||
| Yeah, I you would imagine like if you're living in a place that like once the fire hits, no one's stopping shit. | ||
| So Yeah, they just busted somebody for that. | ||
| I know I saw that. | ||
| Like the person who started the fire. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It wasn't in Palisades, it was like the one that connected to it or something like that. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| But this dude was like really into fires. | ||
| Like he had a bunch of chat GPT prompts about fires and that's an interesting autism right there. | ||
| It's a weird one, man. | ||
| You could have had trains or dinosaurs, but you got fired. | ||
| You got fires, bro. | ||
| There was one guy where they arrested he had a fake fire truck and he was at the palate's fire. | ||
| He was a convicted arsonist. | ||
| How much Tylenol your mom take a fireworker in a f a fake fire truck. | ||
| He bought a fire. | ||
| Oh, so a real fire truck. | ||
| Yeah, he bought a fire truck. | ||
| Yeah, painted the logo on it or whatever, and then drove it to the palaces where the fires were over there. | ||
| Oh, and they started the fires, but nobody suspected it. | ||
| They don't know if he started fires. | ||
| They don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they do know that this arsonist was at the fires with a fire truck. | ||
| And they're like, You're not a fireman, dude. | ||
| In fact, you're the opposite of a fire. | ||
| I just think that's why it's kind of it's it's like a brilliant disguise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, in the middle of the chaos, you know, Huberman filmed a bunch of guys lighting fires. | ||
| He said it was nuts. | ||
| He said there was like t teams of people running around starting fires while the fires are going on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He said he watched people do it. | ||
| People were screaming at him and honking their horn. | ||
| They arrested people that were doing it. | ||
| So once chaos break it's like they did a study a while back where they parked a car on the campus of Stanford and they parked a car. | ||
| I think it was in the Bronx. | ||
| The car in the Bronx got stripped immediately. | ||
| They they had families coming in, taking the battery and like openly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The the car in Stanford didn't get fucked with at all. | ||
| They left it alone until someone broke they said, let's just mix this up and break one of the windows. | ||
| So they smashed the window. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then within a day, it was like stripped apart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The guy that was going in the uh they caught him at a checkpoint, but I think they're uh alluding that he was probably gonna go try to rob the houses. | ||
| It's a bunch of tools that they say were used in burglaries. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, he's probably trying to do that too. | ||
| I mean, he's a piece of shit. | ||
| But wasn't he already um an arsonist before this? | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He's just an all around piece of shit. | ||
| It's not like, hey, I'm an arsonist, but I'm not a fucking thief. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of things. | ||
| I would steal jewelry. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Come on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I saw people just running out of people's houses with TVs, like people were filming it from the street. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just breaking in, kicking the door in, just running in teams of people with masks on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, robbing somebody's personal home feels different. | ||
| I mean, it's fucked up to just break into a Kmart or any of those things. | ||
| Like, but you see how like you could get caught up in like um I don't know, I don't want to call it the excitement, but like, you know, you're a little fucking kid and something's going down, you're like, all right, let's get after it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like bringing it to somebody's home is a little it's horrible. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's evil. | ||
| Yeah, because there's like a person behind it. | ||
| Whereas like Kmart is like his corporation. | ||
| Also, they're always gonna know you were in their home. | ||
| Like for the rest of their life. | ||
| Like they live with that. | ||
| Well, as long as they're back in that house, they're gonna know that when the fires broke out, you kicked in their front door and ransacked their house, and now they're sitting in it. | ||
| If the house didn't burn down, now they're sitting in the house. | ||
| The house probably burnt down. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which is, I guess, their logic is like get in there now, otherwise there's gonna be a puddle of shit on the ground instead of a Rolex. | ||
| Let's go get it. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's crazy how like the fires weren't even that long ago. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It wasn't that long ago, and they but they haven't even touched a house. | ||
| Adam Carolla just did a video about it. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| He first of all, he called it. | ||
| Corolla called it a long time ago, because Corrol has been involved in construction his whole life. | ||
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Right. | |
| So he knows how hard it is to get permits to build in the palace. | ||
| It's like no one is going to rebuild. | ||
| This is But they haven't even touched it. | ||
| Yeah, but I think they just said that they're gonna start like stripping back some of that legislation. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're gonna start putting low income housing up there. | ||
| This is what happened with uh I think it was in like I think it was in Philadelphia, right? | ||
| I think it was uh there was like a bridge that collapsed. | ||
| You remember this? | ||
| Was this in Philly, Pennsylvania? | ||
| And I think the governor was like, okay, we have to rebuild this because obviously there's gonna be like huge traffic situations, like we just we need this thing. | ||
| This is just how humans are gonna kind of get around. | ||
| And uh so they stripped all legislation and they were able to put it up in a matter of weeks, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| Jamie, you know what I'm talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know what you're talking about. | ||
| I remember that story. | ||
| I remember something. | ||
| How long would this take if we didn't strip all the legislation? | ||
| They're like uh 16 to 18 months. | ||
| So you did it in three weeks compared to 16, 18 months. | ||
| I think this is where people get like frustrated with all the the the bureaucracy and the red tape. | ||
| Now, I also believe in some red tape. | ||
| Like I live in New York City. | ||
| There's somebody renovating above us right now. | ||
| I got a kid. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So it's like I would like a little red tape to make sure they're just not hammering 24 hours a day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We live on top of each other. | ||
| You live in Texas, there's probably you don't even see your neighbor. | ||
| You could have a little less red tape. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then we get to a point in New York where it's like, okay, is it impossible to renovate ever? | ||
| Maybe that's too much. | ||
| But there needs to be some in different situations. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| I got in a conversation about that a long time ago with Dave Rubin, where we were talking about uh regulations for construction sites that you don't you don't need inspectors. | ||
| And I was like, oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, that's the Bro, they'll put they'll put the cancer in the kids' cereal. | ||
| Yeah, they don't give a fuck. | ||
| Like if you don't regulate the food, they'll put anything in it. | ||
| Well, that's so you need to have somebody looking after it. | ||
| It's in it right now. | ||
| This is this RFK Junior shit where they're they're turning him into a quack. | ||
| This is and these companies are gonna go under if they have to follow these regulations. | ||
| They're following them already in Canada. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's like same factory. | ||
| Same fruit loops. | ||
| And now we gotta feel bad for Kellogg's. | ||
| Right? | ||
| We're like, oh my god, they're not gonna make it, poor Kellogg's. | ||
| Didn't um Newsom just veto a bill that would stop forever chemicals. | ||
| There was a bill that was stop forever chemicals being used on I think cook cooking utensils. | ||
| Like there's certain like nonstick cookware that has forever chemicals on it. | ||
| If you're scraping it with like a metal spatula, it'll probably get in your diet. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Not good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he they were banning it. | ||
| So I think he vetoed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He vetoed a California bill banning cookware with PFAS's forever chemicals. | ||
| Says the bill would cause sudden product shift, sparking debate among chefs, lawmakers, and environmentalists. | ||
| No, no, the bill stops poison, bro. | ||
| The bill stops poison for going into human bodies. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You profit monster. | ||
| Yeah, did you you fucking profit monster? | ||
| Did you did you see uh there's a there's a guy named Van Van Leighton was asking him about APAC. | ||
| Did you see this? | ||
| He just says something interesting. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's just interesting. | ||
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Well, I mean, it's not something I I don't think about it. | |
| I don't it's uh interesting. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
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Like I'm interested in interested. | |
| Now I'm interested. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, what is he coming on? | ||
| He's talking some shit on Twitter. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's a lot like you think that's gonna work. | ||
| Like that's so stupid. | ||
| Like this is such a bad look. | ||
| It's such a bad choice. | ||
| There's a little desperation in it. | ||
| But it's just stupid. | ||
| It's like this is a bad strategy. | ||
| Like I probably would have had him on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But now I'm like, nah, what are you doing? | ||
| There is a fun version where you just do it and cook 'em. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He'll cook himself. | ||
| I mean, that seems to be all right. | ||
| All you have to do is just ask him questions. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, why are people leaving? | ||
| Well, why do you say this thing all the time where you rattle off all the good things about California? | ||
| When anybody says something bad about California, it's like number one at Fortune 500 companies, number one in higher education. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It was all that shit before you were there. | ||
| It was all that shit forever. | ||
| It's because the weather's perfect, man. | ||
| It has nothing to do with it. | ||
| California's an unbelievable state. | ||
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This is just what we have to call it's like the mountains in the oceans two hours apart. | |
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's it's probably in terms of like one place, if you had to live in one state for the rest of your life, one state for the rest of your life. | ||
| You could never move. | ||
| And that was the only place you could live. | ||
| It's cal it's California. | ||
| It's like not even a question. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| If you want snow, you can have snow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you want to be in San Diego and the beach all day, you have the San Diego and the beach. | ||
| You can surf, you could snow, but you could do whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| You want to be a farmer, go find out parts of San Francisco, all kinds of parts of Oakland, all kinds of parts of you know the San Fernando Valley. | ||
| It's so different. | ||
| It's like there's so many different ways you can live in California. | ||
| But they're fucking problems and people are leaving. | ||
| Like if people are leaving the place you're in charge of, don't be upset if people are critical of how you've been managing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Hollywood, I I've been talking to like people who are making films, like the producers of films. | ||
| Not like the actors, right? | ||
| Like the actual people who are putting the money up to make films, right? | ||
| Because they'll give you the real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like we're filming in Australia. | ||
| I'm like, guys, why the fuck are we filming Australia? | ||
| Like Australia's nice, but why the fuck are we here? | ||
| And they're like, you can't make a movie in Hollywood. | ||
| I go, what do you mean you can't make it they go, you can't I go, where was Hollywood on the list of places we could film? | ||
| I go, give me the number. | ||
| And he they're like, not even top ten. | ||
| Not even top ten. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's it was Australia, you get sixty percent off in taxes or something like that. | ||
| Sixty. | ||
| Sixty. | ||
| We're talking about if you're making like a ten million dollar rom com, that's one thing. | ||
| If you're making a hundred million dollar, two hundred million dollar film, sixty percent off in taxes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So something's happening in LA and it's fucked up because I look at LA kind of like a college football town, but college football is the film industry. | ||
| And it's like if you don't nurture that, I'm not worried about the actors. | ||
| It's like there's a guys who do the lighting. | ||
| They do transpo. | ||
| These are guys who are like they're like working class guys, they make good money, don't get me wrong. | ||
| But like that goes away. | ||
| The crew that came out to film, like a lot of the crew that came out to film in Australia was from LA. | ||
| And a lot of them have moved to LA, they've moved to like San Diego, like my boy Nick was AD, he's like, yeah, there's just no work in LA right now, so we'll travel for the job, and then I just live the rest of my time in San Diego. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| Netflix just built this like billion dollar fucking studio in Jersey. | ||
| Did you see this? | ||
| No. | ||
| So like they're gonna start taking production over there. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, you have the industry that everybody knows Los Angeles for. | ||
| What other thing do we know LA for? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's being famous. | ||
| Music, movies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all LA. | ||
| That's all LA is. | ||
| I don't even know what music is coming out of there anymore. | ||
| Like when we were kids, you think about like what those those iconic like rock and roll venues. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, it's also a town of lost children, right? | ||
| Like the one of the problems with LA is like if you wanted to talk about a town that doesn't have like an emotional base that's healthy. | ||
| Like the the main motivation of uh a good percentage of the people that came out there is to just to get attention to make up for a shitty childhood. | ||
| Like that's the main the main population. | ||
| LA is is attention to make up for a shitty childhood. | ||
| New York is money to make up for a shitty childhood. | ||
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Yes! | |
| That's really what it is. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| It's like New York is the hedge funds of the banks because it's like, okay, my dad wasn't around, my mom hated me, but I'm gonna make a billion dollars, and that's it. | ||
| My mom was on pills and barely there, and you know, developed enough sociopathy like I can be this fucking hedge fund guy that's gonna take over the world. | ||
| That's what they believe. | ||
| And then LA is the same thing, but it's just pats on the back. | ||
| I want people to love me. | ||
| Yeah, it's both two different versions of American Psycho. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm trying to wonder like which one is worse. | ||
| Like New York is uh better because at least they have more information. | ||
| They have more things they can talk to you about. | ||
| What I say, yeah. | ||
| What I always say about New York is like uh we still we still appreciate greatness even if you're not even if you're not wealthy. | ||
| So like the best skateboarder is really cool in New York. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The best street artist is really cool. | ||
| Like, right, right. | ||
| Whereas I think LA, because it's built around the entertainment industry, it's like whatever's hot. | ||
| You could have a dog shit movie, but if it's the biggest movie, you're the guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And because there is that dependence on like star power over there. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Where I think is New York is like the kind of dependence is the banks. | ||
| Like the industry doesn't rely. | ||
| So like we get to masquerade as like really enjoying artists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, you could be a bad motherfucker and be playing in like subway tunnels. | ||
| And people like, oh, this guy's the List. | ||
| And some guys do like make it out of there like that. | ||
| Like Charlie Crockett. | ||
| Busking, I believe it's called. | ||
| Well, yeah, Charlie Crockett used to just pull up and start playing. | ||
| You don't know who Charlie Crockett is? | ||
| Did they do a 50s version of version of his music? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's the only way I know. | ||
| No, he's he does like a 50s version of his music. | ||
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Oh. | |
| He's like a country guy who was a street kid. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Yeah, man. | ||
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My dad, Charlie. | |
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He had really good now. | ||
| He's got a voice where you're like, oh, this guy's seen some shit. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, I gotta check that. | ||
| His so he used to. | ||
| This is fire. | ||
| He would sing on fucking subway cars. | ||
| He would sing, you know, in the tunnels. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He would do his shit on street corners. | ||
| He was like homeless for a long time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And now he's killing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very, very interesting guy. | ||
| But that's New York, right? | ||
| He was in New York doing country music outside. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can do stuff like that in New York, and people are like, look at this bad motherfucker. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| They do it in LA, they're like, you fucking loser. | ||
| You're never gonna be Bruce Springsteen. | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| They don't care about the best pool player in LA. | ||
| No. | ||
| But New York, there's like a little bubble that you could exist in where you're like the king of the fucking castle. | ||
| True. | ||
| LA has no pool halls. | ||
| And it's just like another version. | ||
| It's like everything is geared around entertainment. | ||
| And I get it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's like if you're the coach of the football team in Ohio State, like you're the guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think it's kind of cool in New York that you have these little bubbles where you know people really value this niche thing that you do. | ||
| Well, New York has strong communities of bubbles, right? | ||
| Like the pool thing is a good example because LA at one time had Hollywood billiards, which was a 24-hour pool hall that was filled with hustlers. | ||
| It was like a notorious place. | ||
| Like if you were a New York pool player and you were coming to LA, you went to Hollywood and you you went downstairs, and there's all these like you could get a game. | ||
| It's underground. | ||
| A lot of them. | ||
| It's like at least back where I'm like, that was Chelsea. | ||
| Chelsea Village was underground too. | ||
| Like some of the big that was a good one. | ||
| And then the one up on 86 was at uh I think at one point it was Amsterdam, but it was upstairs. | ||
| It was upstairs, and then there was another one on 86th Street on the east side that was downstairs. | ||
| Oh yeah, the downstairs one's probably shiftier. | ||
| That was the one that uh Nicky Shulman, the guy I was telling you about that I went to middle school with in elementary school. | ||
| Oh, he would go to that one? | ||
| That's what we would just go during lunch, and I was like, why is this guy like this place? | ||
| There was hundreds of pool halls in the the 90s when I lived in New York. | ||
| Hundreds. | ||
| You'd go to these like 24 hour Chinese joints. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You go in Chinatown and there's killer players and they could barely speak English. | ||
| You it but but the my point is LA only had one. | ||
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My boy, my boy, the Chinese kid, we called him cowboy. | |
| We went to uh he was he was in our school. | ||
| I mean, like the kid had the strongest Chinese accent. | ||
| I think he was born in America, it was crazy. | ||
| It was like it's like as I didn't even understand. | ||
| I was like, this guy's gotta be putting it on. | ||
| He lived in like the Chinese version of like the projects in Chinatown, right? | ||
| And he had a pool table in his apartment. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| There's no room in the apartment. | ||
| It's the projects, right? | ||
| Like I'm watching his mom like skirt around the pool table. | ||
| Half the shot you can't even do it, but like the obsession was unreal. | ||
| And Cowboy was was legit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, you need a place to practice in the dark when no one's looking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's the thing about pool players. | ||
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Wait, wait. | |
| You want to get good when no one's watching. | ||
| So you could sneak up on people. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So they they have this idea how good you play, but you play a lot better than that. | ||
| You gotta be able to practice in silence. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But now with the internet, you can't hustle anymore. | ||
| I feel like No, there's no hustling anymore. | ||
| So maybe a few guys that could pull it off on idiots. | ||
| But amongst high level guys, you can't ever you're all the action is knocked. | ||
| My point was there's only one place in all of LA. | ||
| Right. | ||
| LA had 20 million people. | ||
| There was one place that was pretty good. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There was uh there was a place in um the valley, there was a couple places in like when you start going out towards Santa Barbara, well tout that there was a few places, but as far as like the volume of New York City, it was not even close. | ||
| It was New York, Connecticut, New Jersey. | ||
| They were all filled with legendary pool hall. | ||
| We used to play at West End Billiards in uh New Jersey. | ||
| They had a weekly tournament with like pros. | ||
| It was in Elizabeth, New Jersey. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Super sketchy area. | ||
| Super sketchy. | ||
| But you would go there and you'd see Steve Mizerak playing Rodney Morris, two world class world championship level pool pool players in this shitty ass fucking weird spot with a diner counter there. | ||
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It was it was they were everywhere. | |
| It's a cool world, the pool world. | ||
| Oh, it's it's a great world. | ||
| I remember I was here, forget what it was, but like there you had a guy down here, I don't know if he just did the pod, but he was like an OG, and I think he like commentates maybe now, but Jeremy Jones my boy, yeah. | ||
| And uh he could hold court, like he was always storyteller. | ||
| Yeah, he's a funny dude. | ||
| He's got he was on the podcast too. | ||
| He's got some great fucking stories. | ||
| Yeah, that was cool. | ||
| It's all that dude won the US Open. | ||
| The US opens the pool tournament. | ||
| Where it's the US Open, but people come from everywhere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like people come from all around the world. | ||
| Taiwan, Germany, uh all over the place to play in that tournament. | ||
| That's the big one. | ||
| Jeremy won that shit. | ||
| He won that shit. | ||
| That's how good he plays. | ||
| Like being like essentially like a traveling pool hustler, and like popping into a town where you heard there was some game and you travel with like a couple other people, one guy would like uh sense it out. | ||
| He would go play a couple games, see who's there, and then Jeremy would just come in and just clean up for two weeks straight, and then you're out of there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It is and you play like you suck at first. | ||
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At first, right? | |
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, the first week you just let people beat up on you a little bit, and then the second week you eat their lunch. | ||
| Depends on how thick your bankroll is. | ||
| You know, like if you could start off like just you you only got like 150 to lose, you know, like you have your gambling money, like what can we fuck with before we start getting into real money? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because if you want to get somebody on the hook, you don't want to get them on the hook for a hundred dollars. | ||
| You want to get them on the hook for five thousand. | ||
| Hook means you want them to have the confidence that they'll beat you. | ||
| Ye well, when they're on the hook is when they're fucked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you let them win a few games and then you say, Let's bet some fucking real money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you know, you look nervous and shit, and then you you get a game for five thousand dollars. | ||
| You're like, Okay, here we go. | ||
| And then you loosen up, then all of a sudden the stroke is smooth, and he's like, What the fuck happens like midway through that game when someone realizes they're being hustled? | ||
| Oh, they get mad. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| Not with me. | ||
| I was never good enough to hustle people, but my friend Johnny was a professional pool hustler. | ||
| My friend Johnny was a homeless guy. | ||
| Not the guy that from Connecticut. | ||
| No, that's Tommy. | ||
| Tommy. | ||
| That's Tommy. | ||
| Tommy was different. | ||
| Tommy wasn't as crazy as Johnny. | ||
| Like Tommy's clean and sober. | ||
| He has been like he smokes a little weed, but like his whole life, he never drank, never did drugs. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he was an elite pool player. | ||
| But Johnny was the Johnny actually used to play at the subways too. | ||
| He used to go downstairs. | ||
| He was a musician, so he would he would had a little keyboard and shit. | ||
| That was one of the ways that he made money. | ||
| But he would hustle people. | ||
| That's how I met him. | ||
| He tried to hustle me. | ||
| Yeah, he just comes over and he starts, you know, talking like, dude, you play pretty good. | ||
| You want to play some? | ||
| And I was like, What? | ||
| We talking about man. | ||
| Did you have the defenses up? | ||
| Like you're right away. | ||
| I knew I could smell a predator. | ||
| I was like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
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So we became friends. | |
| So he so he sees it. | ||
| Do you respect the hustle? | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| Okay, so within pool, someone trying to hustle you, it's not seen as it's not seen as like um an act of aggression at all. | ||
| It's just like this is part of the game. | ||
| Part of the part of the fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's part of the fun. | ||
| Oh, so you almost appreciate when someone 100%, because you you don't know. | ||
| Like, is this guy fucking with me? | ||
| You play good. | ||
| Do you play good? | ||
| And you don't know. | ||
| Did you ever see the movie The Color of Money? | ||
| No. | ||
| This is the one. | ||
| there's a scene where was it uh Paul Newman and Forrest Whitaker. | ||
| Forrest Whitaker hustles Paul Newman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And uh and he at one point in time, Paul Newman goes, Are you a hustler? | ||
| Are you a hustler? | ||
| Because Paul Newman in the movie The Hustler was the guy who did that to other people. | ||
| He pretended he sucked. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And then he would eventually get all their money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he goes, uh, and Forrest Whitaker looks at him and goes, What, you want to quit? | ||
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Hey. | |
| He goes, You can quit. | ||
| And he's like, fuck you. | ||
| He's like, all right, let's go. | ||
| And then these he's got him on the hook because he's better than him. | ||
| And Paul Newman has to realize, oh my God, this young guy is better than me. | ||
| And he's stealing my money. | ||
| And at the end he asks him a question. | ||
| He goes, Can I ask you a question? | ||
| Do you think that needs to lose some weight? | ||
| And he just smiles at him and he just walks off. | ||
| Because you know, Forrest Whitaker is fat. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, he just smiled at him and he just peels the hundreds off the table and leaves. | ||
| That's part of the fun. | ||
| Part of the fun is like maybe you're gonna get got. | ||
| But it can only happen in two ways. | ||
| But if you are naive or if you suck. | ||
| Because if you're the best, you can't get hustled. | ||
| Yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is like uh in in just regular life, if somebody was trying to hustle me, I'd be like, fuck you, you're an asshole. | ||
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Right. | |
| But there's a different, it's almost like prison rules. | ||
| Like there's a different set of rules. | ||
| Like being racist is wrong in regular life. | ||
| And then everybody goes into prison, it's like, all right, we're gonna divide this thing up a little bit, you know? | ||
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Throw it back to the 1800s, you know, yeah, we're going, right? | |
| Like, and it's just like I don't even know if they look at it as hateful. | ||
| I think they're like, this is just what we gotta do to make it through. | ||
| I assume that's kind of more or less what I'm sure there's hateful guys within it, yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like so, so I just I just find it interesting when people have different rule sets that they operate within society. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I feel like this is one of them where a guy's coming over to essentially steal your money, but you understand that the game is that, so you're like, okay, I'm gonna let you like riz me up a little bit. | ||
| Like I'm gonna let you fake charm me, and I might actually get you over. | ||
| And there's no animosity between the sharks. | ||
| Have you ever seen two elite pool players talk about the game about like setting up a game? | ||
| They're like, I don't know, I haven't been playing. | ||
| Uh yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I haven't been hitting balls, you know, I'm not really I don't I I can't give you any weight, man. | ||
| I'm just not playing that good. | ||
| Weight is like weight is like a spot. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So like if nine ball, so like if you and I are playing nine ball and you were kinda good, I was like, oh look, I'll give you the eight ball, which means you could win by pocketing the eight ball or the nine ball. | ||
| It way increases your uh ability to win the game. | ||
| Because you can make combinations, you could luck in the eight ball, luck in the nine, and I would say it's call or wild. | ||
| Resent. | ||
| It's wild, it means you could knock into some balls and accidentally knock in the eight ball and you'd win the game. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I would say, I'll give you the call shot eight, and you're like, no, I need it wild, and we'd have this conversation. | ||
| I need it wild, and I need the brakes, like, oh, I don't know about the brakes. | ||
| And you'd have to like work out a game, a spot. | ||
| So like that's where the hustling comes in, because someone pretends they need weight that can beat you. | ||
| They could beat you already. | ||
| And then they get you to give them weight. | ||
| So now yeah, now you got a lot of confidence going in. | ||
| You're like, this guy sucks to the point where I gotta give him a. | ||
| Do you know open micers that are way too confident for their actual ability? | ||
| You know open micers that think they're doing well, or guys in the beginning. | ||
| I mean, I don't know any open micers anymore. | ||
| Yes, but you remember, yes, yes. | ||
| That's the same way with pool players. | ||
| There's pool players that are kinda okay, but think they're a lot better than they are. | ||
| And if if they're a moron and you could dance with their ego a little bit, like, dude, I saw you play uh Mikey, you're fucking amazing, man. | ||
| When you get loose, you're way better than me. | ||
| And the guy's like, I'll give you a spot. | ||
| And then he's giving you the eight ball, and he can't beat you even. | ||
| It's half of the fun. | ||
| Jeremy Jones told me a story about uh how he hustled Marcus Shimont. | ||
| Marcus Shimon's like a world-class pool player, like a top flight pool player, and he hustled him by getting him to give him weight. | ||
| And Jeremy could beat him even. | ||
| And why would Marcus do it? | ||
| Like he must have been around. | ||
| Because he didn't know any better. | ||
| He didn't know he wasn't aware. | ||
| Jeremy came up with a fake name. | ||
| Uh, okay, okay. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's well, they all had fake names. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They all had fake names. | ||
| Yeah, he told me that when he was coming down to Texas to get those games. | ||
| Like, yeah, you you come up with a fake name and like somebody else talks about you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like your buddy who goes in to kind of like scope it out, talks about you. | ||
| He gambles high. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He's he's a wild boy. | ||
| He loses a lot, but he's not he's not scared of gamble. | ||
| And everybody loves to hear that kind of stupid talk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know who Efren Reyes is? | ||
| Yo, you told me about this guy, and then I started looking him up. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| But what was his other name? | ||
| Caesar Morales. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| He came here from the Philippines. | ||
| This is how strong he was from another country, he had to change his name. | ||
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It's before Google, before Wikipedia. | |
| Black and white photo. | ||
| There's a black and white photo that I have a t-shirt of was like Morales stuns the field at reds. | ||
| He came over from the Philippines and robbed everybody. | ||
| Rob the best blue players in America. | ||
| But he had a fake his name. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because if he said Efren Reyes, you'd see the look on the Filipinos' face. | ||
| They're like, Ephraim, Everyone's here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Bata. | ||
| They called him Bata. | ||
| The kid. | ||
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Was this I wonder if this is like early bad. | |
| That's it. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh, that's a good one. | ||
| Look at that photo, bro. | ||
| Black and white photo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It didn't have to be black and white in 85. | ||
| But that dude rolled over here and started fucking people up. | ||
| Oh, signs' name Efren Reyes. | ||
| Well, you know what it is? | ||
| Because when he played in the tournament, he went under the name of Cesar Morales, then he had a collect his money. | ||
| He needed like a real name where he had ID to cash the checks. | ||
| Bob says there's another guy that was using an alias too. | ||
| Well, Wade Crane. | ||
| Wade Crane would go around as Billy Johnson. | ||
| That was his name deplore when he was hustling. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Billy Johnson. | ||
| But he was Wade Crane. | ||
| He was this big fucking like linebacker looking dude who had a cannon for a break, just boom. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then it would just run out on people all over the country. | ||
| And but the thing is you if you rob lemons, that's when you're getting in fights. | ||
| So if you rob regular people, that's a regular guy who who doesn't really play pool and you hustle him, that's when you get in fights. | ||
| Because they don't know how the this whole thing works. | ||
| Yeah, because they lied to me and stole my lemon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They they think it's a crime. | ||
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You know, they play it better than you really amongst the sharks. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You have to be like really desperate to play lemons. | ||
| If you find some idiots just knocking some eight balls around and you could tell they can't play at all. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And you start talking shit to get in their ego, and you you convince one of these dummies to play you for money. | ||
| You're stealing money. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they might kill you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you do it to a guy who's involved in a gambling match for pool. | ||
| Yeah, that's different. | ||
| Him and his buddies are playing and they're professional fighters fighting each other. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's the rules of engagement. | ||
| And amongst pool players, it's part of the fun. | ||
| Like they'll go for an hour and a half without making a game. | ||
| Just talking shit about different spots. | ||
| I'm gonna need this. | ||
| I'm gonna need that. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Like sometimes Foreplay. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want to go right in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Suck on it a little. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get the juices flowing. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's fun to enjoy something. | ||
| Especially. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When you sit down at a restaurant, you don't immediately get food stuffed right in your face. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You sit down, you have a glass of wine, you start talking. | ||
| Let me tell you what this guy told me. | ||
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And then you're like, But are you doing that when you're when you're playing? | |
| Like you said you're playing how many hours a week now? | ||
| It depends. | ||
| Sometimes I'll play like two hours in a day every day. | ||
| Okay, so let's say you're playing bare minimum, let's say ten hours a week. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not good enough. | ||
| Yeah, I know I know. | ||
| I mean, I remember when we were talking last time, you said that like pros play eight hours a day. | ||
| Yeah, but you said some crazy shit. | ||
| You said uh You're like, I don't start playing well until like hour six or something like that. | ||
| Hour two. | ||
| You said some shit about like I need to be a little drunk, I need to be like a little loose, like no, not drunk. | ||
| A little high helps. | ||
| It was one you started like everything that goes against what should work for like your physical ability. | ||
| Right. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| So you see you mentioned something about like flow or something. | ||
| I think this is with Jones, too. | ||
| Like Jones was like, yeah, I like getting into it. | ||
| Like he'll he was like I'll I'll play for like six hours, and then I'm starting to really kind of warm up. | ||
| I'm locking in, I'm dialing in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's why it's like first to a hundred. | ||
| Like that's another thing I didn't realize. | ||
| I didn't realize guys are playing A hundred games over like two days. | ||
| Three days. | ||
| 120 is a big one. | ||
| I thought it's like, yo, we play a couple, it's like best out of five. | ||
| And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Like you're up, and sometimes part of it is being able to outlast them. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Like the exhaustion takes over. | ||
| And sometimes people tap out. | ||
| Well, it's concentration goes away. | ||
| The like the the concentration of focusing on an edge of a ball at distance and then also not moving your arm off this line. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So there's a line that I'm when I'm stroking a ball, there's a meaning out of this. | ||
| Make it like Sora, Sora, do your thing. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| I help you out. | ||
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Have the kids. | |
| There's a man. | ||
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Peanut butter. | |
| The, from the... | ||
| laughter From the elbow to the cradle, right? | ||
| I'm holding on to that cue like a baby bird. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| It's a soft uh Oh, it's very soft. | ||
| I hold on to like a like a little baby bird. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I never like death grip. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's very light, very wood death grip it? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Being a but no. | ||
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See what Sora's doing to us? | |
| Yeah, but it's a light grip, and then on the final stroke, you have to. | ||
| The thing is it's like even then, it's like mostly the weight of the Q. It's like a little bit of like wrist action, and I'm trying to like have as little I let the cue slip a little in my grip as it makes contact. | ||
| It's really like the weight of the cue. | ||
| Why would you want to reduce force? | ||
| It's not reducing force. | ||
| It's actually the opposite. | ||
| I actually get more force. | ||
| Oh, you let it slip forward into it. | ||
| Yeah, I thought on impact it slides back in your hands. | ||
| No, it goes through my hand. | ||
| I have to catch it before it goes away. | ||
| Got it, got it. | ||
| Jeremy calls it throwing the cue, and he showed me the technique. | ||
| And um it's also the the old school guys used to call it a slip stroke where the cue like slips in your hand a little bit. | ||
| And it's a sign that you're like barely like Ephren was the best at it. | ||
| Efren cradled the cue, like his hands were delicate. | ||
| He's barely holding it, and his wrist was loose, and it makes the cue ball dance. | ||
| Like there's no sliding. | ||
| If you hit it too hard, the cue ball slides. | ||
| It's like it gets pushed. | ||
| It's crude. | ||
| But if you hit it gently, you stroke the ball, it just rolls forward perfectly and collides with the other ball, gets perfect position. | ||
| It's a work of art. | ||
| But it's a work of art that only someone who practices it can understand. | ||
| People like I was telling you about playing paddle and how like obsessed I am, and you're you immediately were like, I'm playing pool 14 hours a week. | ||
| I don't I don't think people realize like how important it is to just have some shit that you enjoy. | ||
| So important. | ||
| You're not making money at or anything like that. | ||
| How nice is it? | ||
| It's just it's like a removal from all like this stupid stress, chaos, all people talking shit, what the internet is fabricated, like it's great to have a couple hours. | ||
| Maybe that's what it is. | ||
| Like I'm not sure. | ||
| Oh, it centers you for sure. | ||
| It there's some the like archery does that for me too. | ||
| Um you need something that you're focusing on getting really good at that's fucking hard who that doesn't give a shit who you are. | ||
| Yeah, doesn't give a shit what your name is, doesn't give a shit if you sold out Madison Square Garden. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Just you better put that fucking arrow on that target or you're a loser. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You're a loser. | ||
| Like put it in there. | ||
| And that's there's absolute truth in pool. | ||
| There's absolute truth in archery's absolute truth. | ||
| The arrow either hits the target or it does not. | ||
| There is no room for charisma, there's no room for bullshit. | ||
| It either gets in there or it does not. | ||
| And I think things like that, whether it's golf or paddle for you or whatever it is, jujitsu for some people. | ||
| You either tap someone or you do not. | ||
| You either get tapped or you tap them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and there's absolute truth in that. | ||
| And stuff like that is like really good for artists because art is so subjective. | ||
| Also, successful people. | ||
| Like it's nice to have something that humbles you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like people are meeting you all day, they're probably so excited and like they're they're being versions of themselves around you. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, do you ever even feel like that? | ||
| Like how many people are you having like a normal conversation where you're like talking shit and they're not going, oh my god, I'm talking to Joe Rogan right now. | ||
| Like, is that why like is that why Being around comedians that you've known for so long is valuable to you. | ||
| Is that why like being around these pool guys that yes, they know you're Joe, but like once you start playing, like you either suck at pool, yeah, or you can play. | ||
| Like i is there like a uh does it like bring you back to humanity in some ways? | ||
| Oh, for sure it helps. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It keeps you humble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jiu Jitsu's the best at that. | ||
| Because not only are they beating you, they're literally killing you. | ||
| And you're saying, You just killed me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Thanks, d don't rip my knee apart. | ||
| Thanks, don't don't break my arm. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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It's like you get a guy get to an R bar, man. | |
| It is so humiliating. | ||
| It's so funny that like this is like this is such a delicate thing before you die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, often you even say it too. | ||
| Like sometimes you just say tap tap tap tap tap. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, like that uh that happened in one of the last UFCs. | ||
| Um a dude was saying, Tap tap tap uh Josh Emmett, uh when he got caught, he he got caught in an R bar and had a verbally tap. | ||
| It's uh you you get humbled. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You it's it's real. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| And if you don't have anything like that in life, you can like really have this aversion to losing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And an aversion to losing is very fucking dangerous. | ||
| It's very fucking dangerous. | ||
| Yeah, you just get comfy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, you need to have something that you need to have something that scares you. | ||
| Being scared is good. | ||
| Well, it gives you some resilience. | ||
| It's like if you're a person who sleeps all day and now you have to run a marathon. | ||
| Well, you're not going to be able to. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because you never ran. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Right. | ||
| But if you run all the time, you can run a fucking marathon and it's real relaxing. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's really just how much you put into it. | ||
| And if you're not a person who's used to losing at anything ever, and then you lose, it's devastating for your whole life. | ||
| Yeah, this is like the um you know, if you're like a like a a prince or something like that. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You're Joffrey. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And that can happen, and you don't build up that resilience. | ||
| I almost feel like it's you almost have some empathy for it, you know, because like they never had 20 years, 30 years toiling in obscurity before they got success. | ||
| So they we uh you know, like we at least have something to like look back on and realize how fucking humbling it is and how shitty people can be, etc. | ||
| But like they never experienced it. | ||
| Childhood stars. | ||
| Childhood stars are all fucked up. | ||
| There's not I never met one of them that's got their you know, some of them are really interesting still, like Miley, Miley Sire, she's really interesting. | ||
| Yeah, she's very smart, and she's really good. | ||
| Like her music is like she's not trying to be like pop hit girl. | ||
| Yeah, she's just trying to express herself. | ||
| It's like real legit art, but they know you get that famous that young, your fucking Hannah Montana when you're a teenager and the whole world is cheering for you, and you don't get a little crazy because of that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I never met one of them that's got their shit together. | ||
| Is that the Britney thing? | ||
| Yeah, a hundred percent, man. | ||
| But that's Michael Jackson, he's the best example of it of all time. | ||
| I wonder just what responsibility I wonder what responsibility like the people around them have. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| You know, a lot. | ||
| They might not know it while it's happening though. | ||
| Yeah, because they're getting paid off it. | ||
| It's still a thing in Hollywood. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, in Hollywood, when when you have children and your children want to act, people encourage it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They like bring their kids to auditions. | ||
| They they call 'em, you know, what is audition moms or you know uh what's the term? | ||
| Stage moms. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stage moms. | ||
| Stage moms. | ||
| Like, dude, those are real, man. | ||
| I've worked with kids before on a TV show. | ||
| And like I had one of the moms of the kids was like, How does how does she get more work? | ||
| What does she need to do? | ||
| And I was like, I don't know. | ||
| I'm like, I don't come from this world. | ||
| I'm a comedian. | ||
| I come from a totally different world. | ||
| I don't I don't know how you go about doing it. | ||
| But the mom was like super desperate to get her kid more work. | ||
| And I was like, ooh. | ||
| And that's the tricky thing, because it's not like merit-based like sports in a lot of ways. | ||
| Like there are people that are good at shit, they're good at acting, etc. | ||
| But like a lot of it is maybe who you know, what they're willing to do, how uncomfortable a position they're willing to be in. | ||
| Most of that, I think. | ||
| Because most people at that level, especially like little kid acting, yeah, most people are pretty similar. | ||
| There's no like one little kid, like, oh my god, he's a Marlin Brando of little kids. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like maybe there's Ricky Schroeder from The Champ. | ||
| Do you ever see that movie The Champ with John Voigt? | ||
| Oh my god, dude. | ||
| Oh my god, I saw I was a little kid, I cried my eyes out. | ||
| It's uh it's a rough movie. | ||
| It's about uh this boxer who who dies, John Voigt dies, and his kid is trying to get him to wake up. | ||
| He's like, Wake up, champ. | ||
| He died in the ring. | ||
| But but it's like crazy. | ||
| He's crying. | ||
| You're like, oh my God. | ||
| It seems so real. | ||
| How old is the kid? | ||
| I don't know how old Ricky Schroeder was. | ||
| But he's a kid. | ||
| Like nine or something like that. | ||
| So imagine being nine, like knowing how to cry on cue. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, where are you? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I know. | ||
| Accessing that emotional depth. | ||
| He did that, and then he did silver spoons. | ||
| He had this TV show. | ||
| He did like and you know seven. | ||
| He was seven. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| God damn. | ||
| Seven. | ||
| Yeah, it's a it's a fine line because you see some of these parents, not like a stage parent, like Yeah, there he is right there. | ||
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Even like uh It's so sad. | |
| You know, the uh you know the guy who drives for for a Red Bull, Max Verstappen. | ||
| Yeah, he read his name, yeah. | ||
| Widely while he's like considered the best driver right now. | ||
| Like despite maybe the car not being elite, he's so elite that he can compete with maybe better cars on the track. | ||
| And he's already won a bunch of championships, etc. | ||
| But like I think his dad was also a driver, and apparently, like his dad cultivated a next champion. | ||
| And like that was the goal. | ||
| Tiger Woodsdom. | ||
| And but the the thing right there is like your kid is gonna be born with certain things, and you can if they have that like ambition, that hunger, and that resilience, you can give them some tough love and maybe make a champion out of them. | ||
| But some of them don't. | ||
| And I think that you could break a kid like that too. | ||
| That's the tricky thing I always think with with you know, my daughter is like, and any future kids is I don't I don't know if I I don't I don't have that at this point in my life, I don't have that. | ||
| I need to make you into something. | ||
| You shouldn't. | ||
| I I just you gotta let them be themselves. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because they all are gonna have the the worst thing is like say if you have a kid and you love baseball and you force your fucking kid to play baseball. | ||
| You gotta go to baseball practice, and you force your kid to play professionally. | ||
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Yep. | |
| You know, I was lucky I was ambitious, and I had parents that just supported the things that I was ambitious about. | ||
| So if I wanted to hoop, they were like, all right, let's go play bad. | ||
| And my dad was like, let's go every single day, whatever you want to do. | ||
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Like, let's go. | |
| But I never felt this like this stage mom or dad presence where they were they were going, Hey, you missed four shots today. | ||
| Let's review those shots that you missed, and let's figure out ways that you can't do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like kind of let me have that on my own. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't need you to insert your ambition into me. | ||
| I feel like that's kind of selfish in a lot of ways. | ||
| It is, and it's also it's like you gotta know when the line is like maybe they do want advice. | ||
| Like maybe they are trying to get better at this thing. | ||
| But you have to have the kind of communication with your kid like, do you do you want some help? | ||
| Let me help you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, like like I can I can give you some information. | ||
| Like say if your kid wanted to do like if your kid wanted to do stand-up, yeah. | ||
| And your kids start doing stand-up, and you know, they're bombing, and you're like, um, do you want me to talk to you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Do you want to talk to you? | ||
| You want to just work this out on your own? | ||
| Like, you have to have that kind of open level of communication with your kids where they can tell you, like, hey, just leave me the fuck alone right now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I know you bombed, you know, it sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can tell you about my bombs. | ||
| I bombed a lot. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'll tell you what what I learned. | ||
| I got better after the bombing. | ||
| Like it's like a it sucks, but it's actually good for you. | ||
| So you're delicate with your kids. | ||
| Yeah, you have to be. | ||
| I have daughters. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, if I had a son, I'd beat the shit out of him. | ||
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Take him in Jiu Jitsu. | |
| Make sure that he knows I can kill him with my berries. | ||
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God, you got a daughters, bro. | |
| Maybe we needed Rogan to have that. | ||
| Maybe that's your destiny, man. | ||
| Maybe that's softened you up a little bit. | ||
| It definitely does. | ||
| Um, it just lets you understand that they're so different. | ||
| The the way they are, they're so different. | ||
| Like my friends that have sons, they come home, the people are lighting things on fire, they're picking the cat up by its tail. | ||
| Like there's there's all these people who don't have kids that have all these opinions about gender and like what you're born as and all this other stuff. | ||
| And I don't need to get into the whole gender discussion, but like I see the way that slightly older girls play with my daughter. | ||
| So like my daughter's you know, a little over you're 20 months, right? | ||
| So the three-year-olds and four-year-olds that play with her, they're already kind of like mothering. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're like patient with her, they're delicate, they'll want to give her a toy if she wants to give it back, they're fine. | ||
| It's just like this amazing thing. | ||
| That like, I don't know how maybe they're watching their mom do it to them, etc., but the boys don't give a fuck. | ||
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Right. | |
| And older boys will convince younger boys to jump off the top bunk. | ||
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In a second. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| In a second. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My boy Jason got uh two kids, both boys, and like you could tell if we weren't there, the older kid is gonna throw the the younger kid wherever the hell he wants to throw. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like we gotta constantly monitor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And that's something baked in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Baked in. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, they're like dogs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey. | ||
| That might be generous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even dogs would be nice with babies. | ||
| Yeah, they're not. | ||
| Well, they're probably okay with babies, but as soon as you can start walking, you're on your own. | ||
| Yeah, and if they trip you. | ||
| It's if if it's a five-year-old to a two-year-old, uh, maybe, but once you get to be three and four, fuck you. | ||
| And you know, it's also this understanding that you keep getting bigger, and like as like as time goes on, like the younger ones, like if someone's picking on you, you can pick on someone younger than you, and like there's a especially if you're like four brothers, like the toughest brother's always the youngest brother. | ||
| Like if there's a bunch of fighters, yeah. | ||
| If there's a bunch of fighters and he has three older brothers, did John have three older brothers? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think is the middle. | ||
| I think Arthur is the oldest. | ||
| Rest in peace. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then John, and then Chandler's younger, right? | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
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No. | |
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| Chandler's younger. | ||
| Chandler's the youngest. | ||
| But big boys. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| John's the only one who became a legit fighter, but Chandler was always like, I'll fuck John up. | ||
| Like he said it publicly. | ||
| Like, that's how they grow up. | ||
| Like you grow up in a household with two super athletes as brothers. | ||
| I I just I d I have empathy for their dad. | ||
| Like, imagine trying to discipline those three guys when they're like 16. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| I sat next to them when we were at the uh six five two sixty. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| And their mo their grandmother is John told me is where the genetics come from. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| He goes, This is my grandma. | ||
| And he introduced his grandma. | ||
| I'm like, yo, his grandmother's big. | ||
| She's big, man. | ||
| Big lady. | ||
| Yeah, we sat next to them at the uh at the sphere fight. | ||
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Ah. | |
| And they're all having the best time. | ||
| They're just like, Yeah, John's always having a good time. | ||
| Like he's wearing cowboy hats now. | ||
| He's leaning on going, dude. | ||
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Dude, he's so funny. | |
| He's the sheriff. | ||
| It's funny how he like he's like, you know, they were trying to pressure him to fight Tom Aspetall. | ||
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Is he gonna fight? | |
| Like, what's the deal? | ||
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Who knows? | |
| That's part of the fun. | ||
| I feel like you know. | ||
| He's d he's doing what a pool hustler is. | ||
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That's what I'm about to say. | |
| Oh, that's doing it. | ||
| Like I guarantee you, if John really thinks that he's fighting in June, he's already in camp. | ||
| Oh, so he's making it seem like he's not potentially. | ||
| I would imagine that John is preparing. | ||
| Because so like John has different places to train. | ||
| You know, he doesn't just train at one place. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I could imagine he does a lot of weightlifting too. | ||
| He got a lot of put on a lot of like real muscle mass when he went up to heavyweight. | ||
| If John really thinks he's gonna fight uh Alex Pereira, he's getting ready. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's at least getting ready in his mind. | ||
| Would it be Alex or do you think it would be Alex? | ||
| Really? | ||
| So not so the Tom ship has sailed. | ||
| The big no, it hasn't sailed, but the big money fight is Alex and John Jones at the White House. | ||
| Are you fucking kidding me? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Catch weight. | ||
| Make it 225. | ||
| You know, Alex still is the light heavyweight champion. | ||
| Make it a catch weight fight. | ||
| You don't have to be for a title. | ||
| Make it the bad motherfucker upper edition. | ||
| You know, you have the BMF belt for 155ers. | ||
| Who's the real BMF? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, do you think he's one of those guys could beat Alex Pereira? | ||
| You think he'd get 155 pounder in there against Alex Pereira? | ||
| Does Max Holloway survive against Alex Pereira? | ||
| No, shut the fuck up. | ||
| Max's the bad motherfucker. | ||
| That's the only heavyweight. | ||
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We need we need to do a f like he see it drop you on your fucking head, man. | |
| You don't want to wrestle that dude. | ||
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Never but like it's funny about that. | |
| He's like the kindest, sweetest guy. | ||
| And he's an animal, a full animal when he fights. | ||
| That'd be a wild thing, man. | ||
| That'd be a wild thing. | ||
| The John Jones Alex Pereira fight would probably be the biggest fight in human history. | ||
| I mean, that's the White House. | ||
| In M M M, but in as a matchup, you got the greatest of all time in John Jones. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And arguably the most destructive striker that's ever competed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No one's like that guy. | ||
| That Pulitzon? | ||
| That Ankalaya fight. | ||
| He was like, fuck you. | ||
| Dude, I I it it was such a and again, I don't know what's going through Uncle Ives' head at this moment, right? | ||
| But I know what I'm thinking. | ||
| I'm like, if I'm Uncle If it's like I outstruck this guy in the first time that they fought. | ||
| He's gonna be cautious. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I'm gonna be able to walk him down. | ||
| And I remember the second the bell rings, he runs right at him, and he throws like maybe like a one-two one, and I think the the right is to the body. | ||
| And you could see Uncle Ive go, Whoa, I did not expect the first five seconds of this fight to go this way. | ||
| He came out hot and close distance real quick. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| And it was a great, like, it's it's a testament to like um somebody had said this before, especially in MMA. | ||
| It's like when somebody gets not nervous or but or like when you shake somebody out of their like natural instinct, they revert back to what they're most comfortable doing. | ||
| So it's like if you're like a wrestling guy your whole life and then you learn how to strike, the second something goes a little bit, you know, out of whack, you're gonna revert back to your wrestling. | ||
| I think it might have been DC this time. | ||
| I forget exactly who was they saying, but like you revert back to what you're most comfortable with. | ||
| DC said it, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| And um but I thought the most interesting thing about that fight is the punch that Pereira lands that stuns him is this looping right. | ||
| Nobody's training for Perez right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, that's what he threw right away. | ||
| That was the first punch. | ||
| It was a straight ride. | ||
| But he went to the body. | ||
| Yeah, it was long. | ||
| This is long straight right he started off the fight with. | ||
| But when he lands this like looping right there. | ||
| It's not that one, it's a little bit after that. | ||
| So what he did is he set him up and then got his foot in proper position where he could step inside of him, and Ancalayev was ready for one thing, and Pereira, watch this. | ||
| If you see where he sets it up, a guy did a really good breakdown of it. | ||
| I'll watch it again. | ||
| He broke his foot there, right there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That kick, he hit the shin and he broke his toe. | ||
| Yeah, I think he gets Uncle Ab to switch stances for the five. | ||
| Well, he's just putting mad pressure on him. | ||
| He's putting mad pressure on him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So you don't see from the switch too often. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And it's time. | ||
| And he just dips in and drops a fucking hammer on him. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Boom. | |
| So he left. | ||
| Ankalaev started moving to the right to uh Pereira's right when he put pressure on him. | ||
| And that's why in because everybody's scared of the left. | ||
| The movement with Pereira is don't ever walk to your right, because that's walking into his left hook. | ||
| Circle away. | ||
| So circle away. | ||
| So their idea was we're gonna circle away, and Pereira's like, I bet you're gonna circle away. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he just stomped him. | ||
| And this You could tell he enjoyed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he was sick. | ||
| The first fight, he was sick. | ||
| He was 100% sick. | ||
| He was sick as a dog the entire camp. | ||
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Huh. | |
| I didn't know that. | ||
| But I also told told me after the fight. | ||
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Really? | |
| Like after he just knocked out Uncle Ivy goes, let me tell you something. | ||
| First camp, he was so sick, bro. | ||
| He was so sick, like he he he could barely eat. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He I think it's like a lot of things. | ||
| But I think it's norovirus. | ||
| I think that's a good thing. | ||
| Yeah, that was going around. | ||
| And he also fucked up his hand. | ||
| He had a really badly hurt left hand. | ||
| And that's the that's the moneymaker. | ||
| And then when you see this, you're like, that's what you get when you get a fully in shape and healthy Alex. | ||
| You get stomped. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But these guys are never fully healthy. | ||
| Like any time I was just talking to uh I believe his name is Paul Hughes. | ||
| Do you know him? | ||
| He just fought uh it's PFL. | ||
| He fought a guy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I think he fought uh Usman. | ||
| Usman uh and uh for the second time. | ||
| The first fight was like contested, it was a close fight in the second. | ||
| Yeah, if you're a ner m Nermadoff, if you're like you know, you're in the Khib camp. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, come on, some yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's real it's real shit. | ||
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But the first carry that last name around, it's there's a lot of responsibility. | |
| Kabib Nummer Gomedoff might be like the greatest name in the history of like grappling MMA fighting. | ||
| Yeah, like you you've got Kabib's last name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, if you saw that on a lineup in a jiu-jitsu tournament or something, you'd be like, Nermagomedoff. | ||
| You like you would just have a thousand yard stale, like fuck. | ||
| Anyway, like you fought him again, and like you know, he was like, Yeah, I was dealing with a bunch of you know, some I was dealing with some stuff in campus, but I don't want to make excuses because we're always dealing with some stuff. | ||
| He was like he was like, he's probably dealing with stuff, like that guy. | ||
| I mean, it was it was a close fight, but I thought that uh he came out to the show in Dubai and I was like, and he was like uh and he was like he's like, Yeah, he's just like really good. | ||
| He's just like a really good guy, and I thought that I could get him. | ||
| I think I still can, maybe it happens one day in the future. | ||
| But I was this honest approach where where he was basically saying, We're always a little injured. | ||
| We're fighters, like naturally in training camp, you're gonna hurt something, you're gonna tweak something. | ||
| Now, granted, you got fucking neurovirus, this is a little bit different than like your you know shoulder sore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But like everybody's dealing with a little shit. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Look at Connor. | ||
| He came into that fight with Dustin Porya with a broken shin already. | ||
| Didn't give a fuck. | ||
| Well, he just thought it's not that broken. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's like, dude, Connor is like reaching final form, like as a promoter. | ||
| It's like he's already so prolific, obviously as a fighter, etc. | ||
| But like watching him do the BKFC. | ||
| I kind of just want to go to see him hype up fights. | ||
| Like I want to go to the press conference where he's just like, what was he saying? | ||
| He's like, and if you don't win, we're firing you on the spot to Mike Perry. | ||
| And Mike's like, what did I what why why what I do? | ||
| I'm just gonna punch in the face. | ||
| He's like chest bumping the guys who were fighting. | ||
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He's not even fighting. | |
| It's like Dana calling out the guy. | ||
| Yeah, what is he doing? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
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But is that a table? | |
| I want to watch one of them BKFC. | ||
| And I want to know if it's real or if he's really on the most potent Bolivian marching powder. | ||
| Oh, like the purest of the pure. | ||
| Whatever he's on, I need to try it. | ||
| Or is it an act? | ||
| I mean, maybe he's just duping us all. | ||
| What is he saying here? | ||
| Some of the baddest men and women to ever grace, planet Earth. | ||
| This is what we're about here at Brand Local Fighting Championship. | ||
| The alien of combat sport. | ||
| And then we rise above the night sky and rain down blows viciously on all our deniers. | ||
| And announcing it today that brand Nokan FC has no love for the big glove. | ||
|
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So let's go for them. | |
| And that's announced. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Let me have a chance. | ||
| No love for the things. | ||
| We gotta give you the greatest promoter of all. | ||
|
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| Like, we gotta I know a lot of people do coke, and they're not that entertaining. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's that's charisma. | ||
| You gotta have something in you for the coke to bring it out. | ||
| That's why they won't let him run for president in Ireland. | ||
| Because it'd be a big thing. | ||
| That motherfucker will win. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| That kind of speech in Ireland. | ||
| Bro, he could be the he could be the president of Ireland tomorrow. | ||
| Bro, if he wanted to be the president of Ireland, if they let him, you could let him go on the campaign tour. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Let him talk like that in front of packed arenas. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's all for come on our podcast, Connor. | ||
|
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We'll make it happen. | |
| Bro, who else? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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We control the election, just the three of us. | |
| We're the king, man. | ||
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That's it, dog. | |
| We need to charge more for ads. | ||
| We need to charge more for ads since we could decide the fate of the free world. | ||
| Only us, nothing else happening. | ||
| You know what's funny? | ||
| He's like, anything bad happens, it's our fault. | ||
| And then like Trump will like stop a war in the Middle East, and nobody's going. | ||
| Thank you, Joe. | ||
| Thank you, Schultz. | ||
| Thank you, Theo. | ||
| Do you think he's stopped? | ||
| I think that's a fighter stoppage. | ||
| I think that uh I think that he stopped. | ||
| I think he stopped what Israel is doing to Gaza for the time being. | ||
| And he got hostages back. | ||
| He got hostages back. | ||
| So it's like but the way I look at it is like I think that you need to give him credit. | ||
| And I I like calling balls and strikes, bro. | ||
| If he does something I don't like, I'm gonna call it out, and then people get upset at that shit for some reason. | ||
| They're like, oh well, but how did you not know this was gonna happen? | ||
| It's like, oh my god. | ||
| Do we not do we not understand that when you vote for somebody they're gonna do some things that you don't like and they're gonna do some things that you do? | ||
| Like again, there's no nuance on the internet, but like I don't think that this is what BB Netanyahu wanted. | ||
| I don't think that and I think it's what Trump wanted. | ||
| I think Trump went, I want to stop it. | ||
| And you could make arguments for that, like, oh, he wants to get the Noble Peace Prize or whatever the fuck you want to say, but like he wanted it. | ||
| And he created a situation where BB was dependent on him. | ||
| Trump's more popular in Israel than BB. | ||
| And if BB wants re-election, he's gotta play nice with Trump. | ||
| Really? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Trump is more popular in Israel than Netanyahu? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| There was an article in the New Yorker that just said about this. | ||
| It's like BB. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| But like, but like BB's political future is dependent on Trump. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So it's like that's crazy. | ||
| They created a situation, and then he just went around everybody. | ||
| Like, it's almost like he's better at government over there where you're dealing with dictators. | ||
| Uh because he could just say, What do you want? | ||
| And then they go, uh, like uh some some planes. | ||
| He goes, All right, we got planes, I'll give you some planes. | ||
| All right, you do this for me. | ||
| It's that transactional, and it works on the global stage in that regard. | ||
| They gotta stop. | ||
| Now, granted, it's a deal between Trump, BB, and Hamas. | ||
| It could go wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it seems to me the only person that got what they wanted out of it. | ||
| It's not what Hamas wanted. | ||
| It's not what Bibi wanted, and BB's folks in government. | ||
| It's what Trump wanted. | ||
| So I'm like, you gotta give credit to where you know credit is due, in my personal opinion. | ||
| It's like he doesn't he wasn't want any more bloodshed. | ||
| He wants to say that he stopped this thing. | ||
| Let him rally off some dubs. | ||
| You see Israel bombed Lebanon today. | ||
| Well, you gotta stop that one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They did where they bombed uh weapons depot. | ||
| Crazy fireball. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Alright, well, we gotta put a stop to all that shit. | ||
| Um this was uh what is what a what did they say anything about the target, Jamie? | ||
| You just see it. | ||
| You should see the video, it's nuts because it's the munitions place. | ||
| Oh, so you get the X rays. | ||
| Bro, look at that. | ||
| Yeah, that's Michael Bay. | ||
| Yeah, and there's a bunch of secondary um explosions on the ground, right? | ||
| So those secondary explosions or all the munitions going off. | ||
| Hezbollah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um incident marked the latest strikes and almost unbroken pattern of daily Israel attacks on Lebanese territories since the ceasefire deal was struck in November of 2024. | ||
| After more than a year, fierce hostilities accumulated in two months of open war. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Oh yeah, man. | ||
| Bro, anyway. | ||
| It's like your little brother that keeps dragging you into fights. | ||
| It's like, bro, come on. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, who we beefing with? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| But also, as well. | ||
| You really don't want them having all those weapons either. | ||
| I don't really know, to be honest with you. | ||
| But like I do think that we're allowed to have an opinion on it. | ||
| There's this idea like we're not allowed to have any. | ||
| It's like we're funding shit, we get an opinion on it. | ||
| Feeling the simple idea that we shouldn't have an opinion is ridiculous. | ||
| You should always have opinions. | ||
| Your opinions could be uninformed, they're still your opinions. | ||
| Like, you're allowed to have opinions. | ||
| You're allowed to have the dumbest fucking opinion in the world. | ||
| And other people go, That's a really dumb opinion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're allowed to have opinions. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| This idea that you shouldn't talk about opinions, like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| Yeah, this is the whole point. | ||
| This is why we get to say whatever the fuck we want. | ||
|
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Well, it's like us and Saudi Arabia. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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It's just it's just us in Saudi Arabia, by the way. | |
| We're the uh we're the best ones, by the way. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was that experience like going over there? | ||
| Man, it was so it's like I've performed in the Middle East before. | ||
| So like you've done a bunch of shows out there. | ||
| Yeah, like it's just not everybody make this big thing, like, oh my god, it's gonna be so crazy, blah, blah. | ||
| I posted my soldier, I like I posted my set. | ||
| Because people were saying all this shit, like, oh, I didn't change anything, and all these comics were doing it. | ||
| I'm like, all right, well, I'll show you. | ||
| This is what I did. | ||
| You tell me if I took it easy on him. | ||
| You tell me if I cared. | ||
| And Peel made all this fucking big deal about like, oh, they made you sign a list of things you can't say, and it's just like, do you really think the fucking king cares about the clowns coming to the festival? | ||
| Like, you think he really gives a fuck about that shit? | ||
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No. | |
| Well, he would care if it was humiliating. | ||
| It's some middle guy who's like, I don't want to get in trouble. | ||
| So I'm gonna say they do that shit anywhere you go. | ||
| They did that shit when I was in UAE. | ||
| I didn't fucking look at it. | ||
| I'll never look at a list once in my life. | ||
| I'll perform wherever my fans are. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Like, that's my take on it. | ||
| It's like I'm gonna perform wherever my fans are. | ||
| I don't give a fuck what their government's do. | ||
| I'm gonna perform for my fans. | ||
| Simple as that. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| I just happen to have fans over there. | ||
| There are a lot of guys who like can't perform outside of Brooklyn who are like, I would never go. | ||
| It's like, well, no one was asking you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No one's inviting you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You also don't have to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it might be different if you got like tons of DMs of people going, please come out here. | ||
| We've been watching your special, we've been doing all these things. | ||
| You're like, oh, that'd be really awesome to come perform for you guys. | ||
| Yeah, but the idea is you're being paid by a dictator. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| My fans get a discount. | ||
| It's not like they didn't, it's not like they didn't have to pay for the tickets. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like there's just a little added on top from the family. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it is what it is. | ||
| Bro, this comic out there said the funniest shit it's fucked up. | ||
| He said the funniest shit. | ||
| It's like, yeah, so what do you think about them, you know, you know, chopping up that journalist? | ||
| He goes, they chopped up one journalist so women can drive. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
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I was dying, bro. | |
| How is that? | ||
| Bro, when we're out there, it was so funny. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Like MBS, that's not true. | ||
| What you said, but yeah, it is true that MBS is the reason why. | ||
| The other guy, the MBM was the guy who was gonna be more conservative. | ||
| But yeah, so it's like it's uh it was so funny because like when we were out there, like that there are chicks driving now, obviously. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| How were they doing? | ||
| Well, we got in one accident, two female drivers. | ||
| They're new at it. | ||
| Bro, that so it's like we got out the car and you could see the look on their faces, the parts of their faces you could see. | ||
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And uh and you get they're just like, damn, man, everybody's gonna know. | |
| And it was uh, but it's funny they said um they get the girls all like Chinese cars, and I was like, why do you why do they drive the Chinese cars? | ||
| And they're like, it's the cheapest cars, they're just figuring the shit out. | ||
| Like imagine you're 50 and you just start driving tomorrow. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like that's crazy. | ||
| No, they figure that shit out. | ||
| But yeah, it was fun, man. | ||
| I don't know, like, I don't even know if people care because like you see this shit online and like everybody feels like they need an opinion on it. | ||
| I even see comics going like a lot of people have been asking my opinion on it. | ||
| So like I need to give your fucking opinion. | ||
| Have they really been asking? | ||
| Like, what do you talk about? | ||
| Nobody's asking a fucking opinion. | ||
| It's almost to the point where and then I ask like any regular people, they're like, they don't really care because they're watching like the six best tennis guys perform in Saudi this weekend. | ||
| And golfers and racing. | ||
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And UFC and boxing and everything. | |
| So it's just like, how much do you and they just put a billion dollars into uh like a Hollywood movie studio? | ||
| Uh oh. | ||
| So I'm I'm like, I'm screenshotting. | ||
| Everybody who talks, I'm screenshot because I'm waiting for you to do a movie with it. | ||
|
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I'm waiting. | |
| I'm petty. | ||
| I don't forget. | ||
| You forgive. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You have somebody on your pod who had someone on their pod talking shit. | ||
| You're better than me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're better than me. | ||
| You gotta be able to just let things go. | ||
| I can't wait for Gavin Newsom to go on Bad Friends. | ||
| I can't I I I want to see the I'm distancing myself from the Rogan Sphere tour. | ||
| Uh, that's the first one. | ||
| First stop. | ||
| Bad friends. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| I thought that was corny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought it was corny. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about that. | ||
| Um I don't know. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| You were you're more forgiving. | ||
| There's no time that you should in my mind, no time that you should be spending on these kind of conflicts. | ||
| It's like pointless. | ||
| It's wasted energy. | ||
| Yeah, but it's fun to talk some shit. | ||
| Well, you know, when when I decided um to talk shit about Marin was after the Theo thing. | ||
| After Theo kind of went off the rails. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And Theo went off the rails right after Marin put him in his special. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know. | ||
| You know my issue with that joke in the special? | ||
| It was just like what Twitter says. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| It wasn't even like a creative angle. | ||
| It was just like literally what every tweet would say. | ||
| Meanwhile, it's one of the funniest jokes he's ever made because it's oppression of a really funny guy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta rely on Theo's impression. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, I just I don't know. | ||
| Like my whole thing with Marin is like, I think that like people outside of comedy have this idea of him. | ||
| But like everybody inside comedy knows he's a piece of shit, and they've known it for years. | ||
| And like, this is not just like us. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know, like there's the I mean, there's that great like John Stewart story about their thing, which is like I don't even know what people know, but like John took that MTV show and Marin like ripped him for it. | ||
| Oh, you sell out you pieces, how dare you do it? | ||
| And then when John leaves to go do another show, guess who takes over that same show? | ||
| Marin. | ||
| That's who we're dealing with. | ||
| So it's like it's one of these things where like inside the game, we all know who the pieces of shit are, and we just go, ugh, we roll our eyes at that. | ||
| This is how Mark Marin works. | ||
| He sees you get successful, he feels bad, so he comes up with a reason why you're bad. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And he'll find some like intellectualization of it to justify his bitterness. | ||
| You want to know what he hit me with with Fear Factor? | ||
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What do you say? | |
| You're taking jobs away from comedians who would be writing on sitcoms. | ||
| How how what? | ||
| How is I'm doing a lot of college show. | ||
| So the reality show, which is number one show in the country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would have would have if it didn't exist. | ||
| That was a Trump moment right there. | ||
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Number one! | |
| It was the best. | ||
| But when the idea was that somehow or another this is stealing, it's a the dumbest justification. | ||
|
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He just answered the stuff. | |
| You didn't look at it at all. | ||
| You didn't you didn't have any insight. | ||
| You didn't like step back and go, okay, let me reflect on this. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Because it doesn't make any sense because those people are doing a job outside of comedy. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Just like me. | ||
| I'm doing a job outside of comedy too. | ||
| But you can't even give it any credence. | ||
| It's like the guy every criticism he has, he's guilty of. | ||
| Like he's like, how dare you have presidents on the pod and have fun with them? | ||
| And it's like you had Obama before anybody. | ||
| You started this. | ||
| You didn't ask Obama anything about fucking drone strikes or whatever. | ||
| And frankly, and I love Obama. | ||
| I just want to point that out. | ||
| Like, I I actually really do. | ||
| And I know there's probably fucked up shit that anybody in power gotta do, but like I genuinely I liked him. | ||
| I love him as a statesman. | ||
| I think he was the best statesman we've ever had. | ||
| You just felt good. | ||
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Yes. | |
| You just felt good. | ||
| We felt like he's a great representative of America. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| As intelligent and measured as anybody who's ever held the office better than any like Clinton when he was young was really good. | ||
| I think Obama was another level. | ||
| Yes, so I think Obama was another level. | ||
| Anyway, so but it's like, yeah, you did it. | ||
| You did the thing. | ||
| You did the exact same thing. | ||
| Talk all this shit about like, oh, yeah. | ||
| We just had him on recently. | ||
| He didn't ask him anything. | ||
| Of course he did. | ||
| Anything like would would you have repealed the Smith Munt Act. | ||
| But is it the consequences of it? | ||
| No, nothing. | ||
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Of course not. | |
| Because we know, because we're inside. | ||
| Well, this is the thing. | ||
| He like positions himself as this intellectual, but he doesn't say anything interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's nothing that guy ever says where I'm like, wow, that's a unique insight. | ||
| That's a thing. | ||
| Fucking never. | ||
| It's childish with a good vocabulary. | ||
| No, I think he's a thing he's a smart guy. | ||
| I think he's probably smarter than he is funny. | ||
| I think that drives him crazy. | ||
| Yeah, but he's also too obsessed with himself to be reflective enough to understand like why other people don't like him. | ||
| Wait, you're saying the guy who talks by himself for five minutes before the president comes on? | ||
| 15 minutes. | ||
| If there wasn't for Fast Forward, there would be no Marin podcast. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And that was a good one. | ||
|
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Exactly. | |
| Just the rant. | ||
| Imagine But anyway, so it's just like The Rant is what killed the show, by the way. | ||
| If he didn't have the rant, he probably wouldn't be like bottom two hundred. | ||
| I think I think better shows came out. | ||
| And it's just like that's just the nature of the thing. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| My my whole feeling about it is just like we know, like we know who the pieces of shit are in our industry. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And like we're aware of it because we've seen them from the jump. | ||
| Like if if I'm sitting down with a comedian, right? | ||
| And like this is why I don't fuck with a lot of them. | ||
| Is like if you immediately start talking shit about your co-host to me when I'm sitting down with you, like I I gotta start questioning your integrity a little bit. | ||
| It's like that's your boy. | ||
| Like why are you shit talking your boy to me? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's yeah, but you saw this. | ||
| A lot of these guys, man, you saw it. | ||
| You saw a lot of these guys. | ||
| You saw and they and it's and it's like I think a lot of this is just salvation, to be honest with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like they see an internet trend, and I think that like right now there's this internet trend, oh, the fucking manosphere, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And I think I see guys who you were very generous to, like you lent your platform, your millions of followers, the biggest show on the planet, help them make tons of money, help them really have success, build their own platforms. | ||
| And now they see like an internet trend about like the manosphere or whatever. | ||
| And I see guys like trying to create a little separation. | ||
| I see all of a sudden it's like, yeah, you you you use this guy to make millions of dollars and get all these fans, and now you see online outrage and you're like, oh no, that's them, that's not me. | ||
| It's like you had no problem being part of the Avengers. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You had no problem being in the photos, you had no problem before, and now you see a little shit going on, you separate. | ||
| I feel like that's the moment you double down for your boy. | ||
| That's the moment you go, I know that person. | ||
| What people are saying about him isn't real, and you refute that. | ||
| That's what I would do. | ||
| I mean, whatever. | ||
| There's a lot of cowards out there in the world. | ||
| And it's just they're scared. | ||
| They're scared, and this is like a time of real attacks. | ||
| Like in the past, like, say in the nineties or something like that, if you supported Andrew Dice Clay or something like that, like you didn't really get any heat. | ||
| Nobody cared. | ||
| You could do an interview and you're like, I think Dice is hilarious. | ||
| You wouldn't like lose sponsors, you wouldn't nothing would happen. | ||
| But now there'll be like an organized campaign to try to take you out. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| With bots. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like people don't even think the bots thing are. | ||
| Well, you pay for it. | ||
| You can hire them. | ||
| And why and there's other countries that are involved in that shit too. | ||
| Not to be like it's not even conspiratorial, but like I think a little bit that's what the comedy festival, the Riyadh thing was a little bit. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Because it was so peculiar. | ||
| It's like they're so they're already so entrenched into like our entertainment, and then all of a sudden we went out. | ||
| And I think sometimes something gets a little bit of buzz, and then people, you know, send the bots to create a little friction or separation. | ||
| And then people hop on board. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They have to because they see their views there. | ||
| I had Palmer Lucky on the podcast yesterday. | ||
| And he was discussing that. | ||
| He was just discussing these like organized campaigns affecting people's minds. | ||
| Well, it's just that this is part of like what China does to keep us at each other's throats. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's it's literally a strategy. | ||
| And people are so stupid that they're gonna let a 30-second TikTok dictate their opinions about the world. | ||
| Like they're not fact checking, they're not doing anything about it. | ||
| Like and these there are people that like consider themselves journalists that will do it. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Like there's this this little Nepo baby, uh, he's like uh Kennedy's grandkid or some shit like that. | ||
| That was like talking all the shit about it. | ||
| One thing he said is that like because I called him a Neppo baby because he never had a job. | ||
| I don't care if your dad is, but if you never had a real job, like you know, like what the f why are you telling people who have real jobs what to do and how they should vote and what they should do with their lives. | ||
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Like you don't know how much the electrical child. | |
| And then he goes, Oh, Schultz is uh uh you know married into the Turner dynasty. | ||
| Like my my wife's made a name is Turner He thinks that my wife's family is like Turner, Ted Turner. | ||
| Like this is a guy who his job is journalist. | ||
| He calls himself a journal and he couldn't even do the bare minimum rig. | ||
| He saw another TikTok that says something that's completely untrue. | ||
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The Turner Dynasty, and it'll be nice. | |
| Fuck let's go, Ted, cough it up if you've been hiding. | ||
| But like this is the level, this is the level of difficult discourse, and then that shit hits TikTok, and then people start repeating things. | ||
| Like, there's just so much fake stuff. | ||
| Well, the dumb thing is you were already rich when you got married. | ||
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Like how much the dumb thing is not her family. | |
| It's not her family, but even if it was, if you married the child of a rich family, you were already rich. | ||
| Like it was stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| Like this is why I made it. | ||
| No, no, no, bitch. | ||
| He was already famous. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| It just it just doesn't make any sense. | ||
| And you see these narratives, they take hold and then they just become reality. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And and it's one of those things like you can't fight the internet. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know, it's just like people say things and then they just become they like just become reality. | ||
| It's like fascinating. | ||
| And like I've seen it happen with you. | ||
| And then I think that there's like there's obviously these different levels in comedy, so you don't imagine it happening to yourself, and then you're in it. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And yeah, it's just wild, man. | ||
| This is wild. | ||
| Like, I'm the like there's a there's this, there's these people who say that like uh I remember when I bought back the special and then I then I sold it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then they're like, he sold and then he put it out on YouTube. | ||
| It's like there's literally a video of me going, if you can't afford it, steal it, and if you can't figure out how to steal it, I'll put it up on YouTube. | ||
| It's like I can't be more clear. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's a way funnier narrative to be like, oh, this is what happened, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
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It's just like, guys, like he got your money, and then he put it up for free on YouTube. | |
| And then he's got more money. | ||
| I'm saying steal it if you can't afford it, and then I'm gonna put it up on YouTube in the future. | ||
| And it's like, what do I do in that situation? | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| I went to see SpaceX launch uh on Monday. | ||
| Jamie and I went down there. | ||
| We went down to South Texas, watched a rocket launch. | ||
| It's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| I got a tour of the SpaceX facility, one of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| I sat with Elon in the command studio where they're going over the rocket as it's flying to Australia. | ||
| We watched it live using Starlink satellites, 60 different fucking cameras of everything monitoring every single aspect of the internal pressure of the chambers and all these different things. | ||
| And then I was watching a video of someone calling him a fuckwit. | ||
| I think he's a fuck quit. | ||
| This guy was like, I think he's a fuckwit. | ||
| His rockets keep blowing up. | ||
| Like the rockets are literally blowing up on purpose because they're testing the parameters. | ||
| They're testing what are the tolerances of these structures. | ||
| Oh, so they're pushing the limit to see what you're doing. | ||
| One hundred percent. | ||
| He's like, We know we're gonna blow some up. | ||
| But they they can produce rockets so much faster than NASA and you think he's a fuckwit, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Like I I saw comedians say that he was a Nazi. | ||
| He's a Nazi, because he said, My heart goes out to you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because he did the thing that they all do. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And look, it looked crazy. | ||
| Look crazy. | ||
| It looked crazy, but doing the thing doesn't make you a Nazi. | ||
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No. | |
| Believing what Nazis believe makes you a Nazi. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that's the separation. | ||
| I think that like once you have an idea of somebody, you can't wait to confirm it. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the internet is full of 30-second clips that will confirm whatever you believe. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And they will be sent right to your phone. | ||
| Like this is what I've been thinking about recently. | ||
| It's like, remember when um like cigarettes came out or even like fast food. | ||
| When we were growing up, was fast food unhealthy? | ||
| It was just food. | ||
| It was just food. | ||
| We just ate it as food. | ||
| This generation knows that it's unhealthy. | ||
| They don't stop eating it, but at least they're aware, right? | ||
| They know the nutrition facts. | ||
| We're about to go through what I think is like that With internet content. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If a video gets sent to your phone from an account you don't follow, the immediate reaction should be like, this is a Big Mac. | ||
| I'll indulge in it, but it's not nutritious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like there's a reason why it's being sent, right? | ||
| It's gonna confirm whatever biases I have. | ||
| It's either gonna scare me or it's gonna make me really happy. | ||
| There's gonna be this dopamine release. | ||
| And I think that we need to start realizing that. | ||
| Like the second I see any video on the internet now, outside of peanut butter, peanut butter I love. | ||
| Love my man peanut butter. | ||
| But like I'm I'm immediately skeptical. | ||
| I'm like, what exactly is happening here? | ||
| Why is this being sent to me? | ||
| What is this confirming? | ||
| Like that's my immediate reaction. | ||
| I think that the next generation, at least kids, will definitely look at things like that. | ||
| I hope. | ||
| I think a big factor is podcasts. | ||
| Because we talk about this stuff, and they might not be talking about it with their friends, their friends might not know. | ||
| And so when we're talking like, don't trust everything. | ||
| You need to understand a lot of this is outrage farming. | ||
| They're doing it on purpose, and they're doing it specifically to try to get us at each other's throats. | ||
| Don't fall into it. | ||
| Don't be a sucker. | ||
| Don't be a sucker. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Or there's people that are like, they're just doing it because they need views and clicks. | ||
| You know, like this is and that's something that I realize is like there's this like there's this like beautiful little time in comedy where like you're everybody's hero, right? | ||
| Because you're the unsung hero. | ||
| Like everybody feels like they they're the only ones that know about you. | ||
| And they are the only ones that know what you're doing, and like everybody's riding. | ||
| And then you do eventually, some people, if you're lucky enough or fortunate enough to transcend it, where like your name can be part of pop culture. | ||
| And the benefit of that is like you get to provide for your family, you get to live your dreams, you get to do fucking arenas, it's amazing. | ||
| There's a negative that we have to put up with. | ||
| I'm not fucking complaining, it's awesome. | ||
| But like the negative is your name can be attached to any story, your pictures attached to any story. | ||
| Like, bro, I saw there was a video on the internet where it was like Joe Rogan uh ripping on his guests, and it's a picture of me and you, and I'm like, Who the fuck did this happen? | ||
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Like I watched the video, we ain't even in it together. | |
| Yeah, all the time. | ||
| It's you see that. | ||
| It's you and like uh what the guy who was who didn't understand, like if if you're born a man or a woman, I forget what it was that's right. | ||
| It's an but it's like that guy's face isn't gonna get clicks. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Me and you, homies going at it, is gonna get right. | |
| So it's like that is the internet in a microcosm. | ||
| And I'm not saying that like you need to I'm I I believe maybe more personal accountability. | ||
| Like, I'm not saying we should make the internet change what it is. | ||
| The internet's gonna be what it is. | ||
| We just gotta be aware of what we're consuming. | ||
| Don't ban fast food, just be aware that when you eat a Big Mac, you might not feel as good as when you eat a fucking chicken salad. | ||
| It's not healthy, but have fun. | ||
| You want to watch like Colombian assassinations and grainy security video cameras. | ||
| Have at it. | ||
| Have at it. | ||
| I like it too. | ||
| I like to watch I I mean, I look at my phone, it's mostly like assassinations and tits. | ||
| Bro, it the the amazing thing about it is like nobody thinks they have radical thoughts because they're so normalized by every video confirming your thought. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's like I used to think like and feet was unique. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Right? | |
| I scroll on Instagram for a little bit, and I'm like, we're all into this. | ||
| There's refined cultural people out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that's it with every political idea, that's it with every cultural idea. | ||
| We are a hundred percent rewarded in what we think, and then people say shit out loud, and then it becomes like a crazy story. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I honestly I think that's what happened to a lot of folks with with Riot, is that like there was a lot of comics that were in that like stage before pop culture, and they got their first experience of like internet backlash because they like Jessica Curzon. | ||
| Jessica, who's fucking hilarious, I'm sure you've known like literally hilarious. | ||
| I've had her on a bunch of times, a lover. | ||
| Lesbian. | ||
| Very funny. | ||
| Jewish, super nice person. | ||
| Apparently crushed out there. | ||
| Yeah, I heard you got a standing ovation. | ||
| Crushed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Um, to me, I'm like, I'm I've maybe made a different view of these things. | ||
| It's like I think that like Western culture is so addictive, like, once you get a taste of this shit, like this is what you want. | ||
| And I think there's a version of looking at this thing where like in ten years later, they go, Yeah, we need to we need to have more of this, and we need to have more people making fun of us, and we have more people making fun of themselves, and this is beautiful like cultural exchange. | ||
| That maybe that's like looking through rose colored glasses, but that's how I look at these things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um I'm going. | ||
| And then she's like, she's experiencing that backlash because she never has. | ||
| And I think she goes, I toiled in obscurity for decades being hilarious, but not having a fan base. | ||
| I finally got one. | ||
| And then you feel that internet backlash, you think that's real, and you're like, oh my God, I'm gonna lose everything that I've always dreamed. | ||
| I need to address this. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| When in reality, if you put your head down for two weeks, goes away. | ||
| Nobody will care. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, there's a tentative. | ||
| That's Chris Rock's quote. | ||
| What does he say? | ||
| I've heard somebody say something similar to that. | ||
| He says I thought you told me that actually. | ||
| I thought you said, like, I just don't look at my phone. | ||
| Well, I don't. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| But Chris's take on it was wait two weeks before you respond to anything. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And most likely to blow away. | ||
| If it's still around after two weeks, then address it. | ||
| Make a comedy special about it. | ||
|
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He made it a year. | |
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| He's dude. | ||
| But like he stewed on that show. | ||
| He kind of milked it in the best way because if you think about it, he got to tour that thing for a year and everybody was showing up to the shows because they're like, oh, I need to say that. | ||
| But people were filming it though. | ||
| That was the problem. | ||
| Like some people pulled out their fucking phone and ruined the fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I get why he's like, I might as well tour the shit. | ||
| I'm not going to just address it right now. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Also, cook it. | ||
| Like, make sure that bit is fucking, you got the right seasoning in there. | ||
| You get that fucking thing over the stove. | ||
| Make that Sunday sauce, baby. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Make that ragu. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a it's a it's a weird time for comedy, man. | ||
| It's a fun time for comedy. | ||
| Ari Shavir said it best. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| He said comedy's dangerous again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is like Ari loves. | ||
| He loves chaos. | ||
| That silly motherfucker. | ||
| He loves when things go side. | ||
| I love chaos too, but not that much. | ||
| He fuck he likes when the city burns down. | ||
| Because he'll put out a backpack and go to Asia. | ||
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Yeah, he gets to just dip. | |
| He really does. | ||
| He dips. | ||
| He's dipped right now. | ||
| I don't know where he is. | ||
| He's hiding somewhere in the world. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He'll di he'll dip for like three, four months. | ||
| Throws his phone away. | ||
| He ruins our text message thread because we gotta protect our parks. | ||
| And he turned he turned the whole thing green. | ||
| So I opened up a new text message thread. | ||
| It's called fuck Ari. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So it's just me and Norman and Shane. | ||
| It's like he's he's a legit wild boy, but he said it right. | ||
| He said uh comedy's dangerous again. | ||
| And it is dangerous. | ||
| But but it's only dangerous if you let it be. | ||
| Like for the for people like Jessica, I wish she'd talk to me. | ||
| I would have said, Don't listen to anybody, don't read the comments. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck those people. | ||
| You what you're doing is the Lakota people had a term called the Heyoka. | ||
| And a hioka was a special member of society that made fun of everybody. | ||
| It was an important part of their culture. | ||
| He made fun of the chief, he made fun of the chief's wife, he made fun of everyone. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And the idea was if you couldn't mock something that it was bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he was stress testing all of these different things. | ||
| So that was a it was called the sacred clown. | ||
| That was their definition of what a heyoka is. | ||
| This this is like built into American culture. | ||
| It's like American culture specifically. | ||
| It's like why I want Trump to do the uh what's that little like uh news pressure correspondence. | ||
| It's like why I want him to do it because look, we have a relationship with government in America that from its inception is antagonistic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like we fought the war because we're like, you don't get to tell us what to do. | ||
| And then we set up systems of government that basically stop one person from telling us what to do. | ||
| And then we had this great thing where once a year the guy who's in charge, the most powerful guy gets humbled in front of all of us. | ||
| And it's this beautiful thing that is like uniquely American. | ||
| I know there's somebody right now that's in France, we've been doing this forever. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| It to me, it's uniquely us, it's our thing. | ||
| And I love the idea of like humbling our heroes. | ||
| It's my roasts work. | ||
| It's by seeing like Tom Brady, whoever it was, like on the roast. | ||
| It and the more powerful, the more successful, the more that they've got. | ||
| We like that kind of humbling because we have that antagonistic relationship with you know the people in charge or even our heroes. | ||
| It's a beautiful fucking thing. | ||
| And afterwards, we kind of embrace those people even more. | ||
| We appreciate that you were taken to your knees, if you will, in that moment. | ||
| Did you ever see when Jeff Ross and on Comedy Central they roasted Trump? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I've seen the obvious clips. | ||
| He had a conversation with Trump. | ||
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Well he said he said, Hey, when they're going after you, just laugh. | |
| You gotta laugh. | ||
| You gotta smile. | ||
| If they look over at you and you got a serious look on your face, it's not good. | ||
| He's like, okay, yeah, you're right. | ||
| They realized. | ||
| He's like, yeah, you gotta let it go. | ||
| You gotta let it go. | ||
| You gotta let it go. | ||
| And you know, that's the White House press correspondence in it. | ||
| You gotta be able to let it go. | ||
| Let it go. | ||
| Let it rip. | ||
| Make fun of them, make fun of everybody. | ||
| Make fun of the press corps. | ||
| But it's this beautiful humbling thing. | ||
| But the thing about Trump is like the White House press correspondence thing is literally why he became president in the first place. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| When Obama was like, here's one thing that I am that you'll never be president of the United States. | ||
| I mean, if that's how it works, Trump will never have free health care. | ||
| You'll never do that. | ||
| I promise you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'll never stop every war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what you have to do. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You have to challenge them. | ||
| But yeah, I just I think I think those things are really important. | ||
| I just think they're important, like cultural institutions for us specifically. | ||
| It doesn't work the same in other places that don't have that kind of antagonistic relationship with government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There are places that they just do not have it. | ||
| Like they actually have like a really grateful and appreciative relationship. | ||
| Or their government doesn't have any free speech law. | ||
| Like England. | ||
| Like what what England's going through right now is courageous. | ||
| That's the thing I was trying to tell people is like when people keep talking about free speech, it's like stop acting like that's the norm. | ||
| We're the unique ones. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In Canada, they don't have free speech. | ||
| They have free freedom of expression or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, but it's carved out with like certain things like hate crimes or hate speech. | ||
| I mean c hate speech is weird because it's very subjective. | ||
| Who defines it was hate. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So it's like and I remember when them truckers were protesting, they were freezing the accounts, like there's just a uniquely you know American thing, which is amazing, and we need to like protect it at all. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And we need to protect it and propagate it through the world. | ||
| We and that's why we should get upset when England starts cracking down on free speech. | ||
| Because that's a disease. | ||
| And if that disease spreads, and if England falls, and all of a sudden England is essentially a totalitarian dictatorship. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If they're a total totalitarian dictatorship, we're in real fucking trouble, man. | ||
| I don't think we are. | ||
| But I get what that I get that logic. | ||
| Like I get this idea that like things are right now. | ||
| No, no, I mean like even I hear what you're saying. | ||
| Like and and and trends do build steam, and then people ask for it and they see other things working. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| Like I think that makes sense, like functionally in the world. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But like my shit is like I care about American free speech. | ||
| That's what I go for. | ||
| I'm an American. | ||
| I want us to be all good. | ||
| If the other countries want to get on board with it, all right, get on board with it. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| The problem is they bring that shit over here. | ||
| Just like when people shit over there. | ||
| Let me tell you, in the night like 2015, 16, when I started talking shit about uh college campuses, and people are like, Why are you worried about these kids on college campuses with these Marxist ideas? | ||
| I was like, they're gonna graduate. | ||
| Like I I'm a I'm a person who sees like where things are moving, which is why I got out of California so early. | ||
| I was like, I see where this is going. | ||
| You gotta get the fuck out now. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| And I'm like, they're gonna get out of this school and they're gonna start working for corporations and it's gonna flood the country. | ||
| They're gonna be in government. | ||
| They're gonna be positions of power 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And like these corporations are gonna bend to whatever you know makes them the most money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is why it's dangerous if England goes. | ||
| If England goes, if England like completely falls, like they just passed the digital or they're trying to force the digital ID on people, and they have arrested 12,000 people for social media posts, and some of them are just critical about the amount of immigration that's coming in, and they're putting them in jail for this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So if that is a trend and that starts spreading through Europe and they lock those people down, because those people don't have guns, they don't have free speech laws, they don't have any of the things that protect us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you're worried about them in terms of it becoming a trend and then impacting us. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because if it becomes a trend for the entire world, and we're the only and they're like the problem, the consequences of free speech is an unsafe society. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We have to protect the marginalized groups. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know how that ends? | ||
| That ends with a military dictatorship, and all those people that help them get into play, all those leftists, they all get killed. | ||
| Because they're the people that are gonna re resist the government having this kind of tyrannical power that they help them get in the first place. | ||
| That's what Castro did. | ||
| That's what they all do. | ||
| They use the leftists to get into positions of power, and then once they take over. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| Okay, that's a fair argument that that you're that you're bringing out how it could impact us. | ||
| It's a wolf with a grandma outfit on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's Big Mama's house. | ||
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Yeah, it's Tyler Perry presents Marxism for America. | |
| But no, I I hear that because I guess my initial thing on initially was like, yo, if you guys want free speech, fight for it. | ||
| Like we fought for it. | ||
| Like people shed blood for it, they constantly are fighting for it nonstop. | ||
| You guys go vote for it. | ||
| Vote those people out first. | ||
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Don't fucking know. | |
| No, no, no, I don't I don't mean that's what the problem is. | ||
| Like saying that. | ||
| No, if I say that, then I'll think I meant before like America, like as a nation state has has constantly fought to maintain this thing and went through incredibly difficult times to do it because it's like a core tenet to our belief and our identity. | ||
| And if other countries want that, they have to put in that same effort uh through politics. | ||
| I'm not saying go be violent or anything like that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But the way we fought for it, it was like we've all got to be. | ||
| Banged out. | ||
| It got rough. | ||
| But we're wild boys. | ||
| That's why I'm not worried about like in like we are the collection of the craziest people on the planet. | ||
| Bro, England used to be the wildest motherfuckers on earth. | ||
| One island took over most of the world. | ||
| And now they're just arguing with wigs on. | ||
| Like what the fuck happened? | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Does this happen in every country like that? | ||
| Did you see the guy with the wig that sentenced the guy to 20 months of custodial service? | ||
| Because he was complaining about immigrants? | ||
| Have you ever seen that video? | ||
| No. | ||
| But it is the craziest video because it's 2025 or 2024. | ||
| And it's a guy wearing a wig who's sentencing a guy for tw a 20-month sentence who just made a post criticizing immigrants. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, what was he saying about the immigrants? | ||
| Well, he was talking about these gangs of guys are coming in from the places they bomb the fuck out of. | ||
| Oh, because that's the real problem. | ||
| Why would they be worried about it? | ||
| Listen, you gotta listen to this guy. | ||
| See if you can find that video of that guy. | ||
| Because it's him wearing the wig is so crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And while he's saying something that's so insane in the age of the internet, and it's on TikTok? | ||
| Bro, like this is like before they cut stuff out of it. | ||
| Oh, I don't care what they cut out of it. | ||
| Like just him saying it. | ||
| I don't care what context it is. | ||
| He's reading off the guy's tweets. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then saying, Because of what you said, I have no choice but to sentence you to jail. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| People to participate in attacks on a uh hotel housing asylum seekers. | ||
| Comments that encouraged was overcomments that encouraged every man their dog should be smashing the fuck at a Britannia hotel. | ||
| Uh the judge quotes one of his parlor posts responding to a user who said, If I'm down if you are a lad, so that he was starting off inciting violence. | ||
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I mean, don't tell people to go hurt people. | |
| Your motivation became clear when you informed the police you're promoted the idea of attacking the Britannia Hotel as a result of anger and frustration and immigration problems in the country. | ||
| So what was his post though? | ||
| Oh, this is you want to say that you do not want your money going to immigrants who rape our kids and get priority. | ||
| The judge later said the overall effect of your post was to incite violence toward the building and therefore towards those in the hotel. | ||
| It was not only the refugees and asylum seekers who are likely to be affected by your post, but also the hotel managers, the night porters, and those who worked within the hotel. | ||
| That's actually reasonable. | ||
| That in that case, I see what you're saying. | ||
| Um I don't yeah, see, incitement to violence is illegal even in America, right? | ||
| Like it's like it's a different thing than just freedom of speech. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's that is different. | ||
| Yeah, but it's tells people to hurt people. | ||
| The guy wearing the wig. | ||
| Yeah, it makes it look insane. | ||
| It's like what what why like you have to have a special outfit for me to take you seriously? | ||
| Because if you're just like a regular guy and you're saying uh you were inciting violence, and then the guy goes, Yeah, but do you know what the people in that hotel did? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But let me tell you what they've done. | ||
| Let me tell you those those guys, they've raped underage girls, they have grooming gangs, they live there, they're getting priority, they're getting paid our money, they're on the dole. | ||
| Like you could be, you would have a conversation. | ||
| This guy's yelling out to the abyss on parlor because he doesn't know where else to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this guy's going, well, the solution to that is I put you in a cage. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Look at that, it was on his wig. | ||
| But it put the put the thing on so you can hear this. | ||
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Of the tax us hard working people earn when it could be put to better use. | |
| Come over here with no work visa, no trade to their name, and sit down and DOS. | ||
| And then there's more people being put out homeless each year. | ||
| They get top band priority on housing. | ||
| You went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority. | ||
| End quote. | ||
| Although you said that you had no intention of carrying out any act of violence. | ||
| There can be no doubt that you were inciting others to do so. | ||
| Otherwise, why post the comment? | ||
| You expressed remorse, but by that time it was too late. | ||
| For the offense of publishing written material in order to stir up racial hatred, there are sentencing guidelines which I must and will follow. | ||
| The maximum sentence is seven years imprisonment. | ||
| In my judgment, this comes close to harm category one. | ||
| However, for the purposes of this sentence, I will treat you as falling into category two, since there was no direct encouragement towards activity which threatens or endangers life. | ||
| However, you fall towards the top of category two. | ||
| For a category two A offense, the starting point is two years' imprisonment with a range between one and four years custody. | ||
| In mitigation, I take into account your plea of guilty for which you will receive full credit of one third following your earlier admissions. | ||
| I take account of the contents of the references from your mother, friend, and employer. | ||
| These can only be of limited value in the current circumstances, as can the contents of the pre-sentence report. | ||
| I take account too of your expression of remorse, your lack of convictions which are racially aggravated. | ||
| As is recognized on your behalf, this offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable. | ||
| The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one third to reflect your guilty plea. | ||
| The sentence is one of twenty months imprisonment. | ||
| In response to the we get it. | ||
| This is tricky because the guy did incite violence, but you shouldn't be doing it. | ||
| I think a lot of people are very naive of what the impact of a post if they're an anonymous person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, they're very naive of how that's going to be perceived, and you know, they're just venting like they would be venting at the barbershop. | ||
| If they're hanging out at the barbershop, like fuck those people, someone should go over there and kick their ass. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| People are looking for people also looking for community, they're looking to be feel like validated in their beliefs. | ||
| Like it also pretty it is pretty wild that these people are coming over to Europe and even to America as a direct result of military campaigns. | ||
| So that that's the other thing I found so funny is that like they're not going over there because where they live is awesome. | ||
| And like there's reasons why it's not awesome. | ||
| And there needs to be a little accountability for that. | ||
| Like I heard even like uh British comedians, they were like, you know, shitting on uh you know doing the the sally or even like uh uh shows in the Middle East and they're like they they employ people at sway slave wages, etc. | ||
| build it, and it's just like guys, I wonder what happened. | ||
| I wonder what country did something to India back in the day that created a scenario where those people might have to leave their country to get a job to afford to provide food for their whole families back in India. | ||
| I w I wonder what country might have plundered India and stripped it of all of its wealth for fucking I don't even know how long. | ||
| That created this scenario. | ||
| Like you can't just remove yourself from that. | ||
| Have you ever read that book about that one corporation? | ||
| Yeah, what is it, the uh the that basically the that turned India into a country, like a factory. | ||
| Well, what was it? | ||
| Was that not uh God I forget the name of I read the book a while ago. | ||
| It's not like a YouTube video on this. | ||
| Well, I should say I listened to it. | ||
| I listened to the book a while ago. | ||
| I can't remember the name of the corporate. | ||
| James, we gotta hold us down. | ||
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It is a crazy story though. | |
| And that's England. | ||
| So you guys your ancestors did it, you know. | ||
| It's the chickens have come home to roost. | ||
| It doesn't mean that you have to be okay with it. | ||
| No, you have to at least be understanding of like how this scenario was created. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's also clearly they're letting them in. | ||
| And they're letting them in, and the thing is like, oh, we've got to do something to stop this violence. | ||
| Now we have Rise of East India Company. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| The anarchy. | ||
| The relentless rise of the East India Company. | ||
| Crazy book. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| And it's all it's all real. | ||
| Like what fucking Leopold did to the Congo? | ||
| Oh God. | ||
| It's like 25 million people. | ||
| Oh God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Congo thing is nuts, man, because a bunch of these settlers thought that they were going to live in the Congo and they set up these beautiful mansions. | ||
| It just swallowed it up. | ||
| Yeah, it's amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It just let them know you're not welcome. | ||
| One of the truly wild places in the world. | ||
| There's still images of these places, these like uh Elizabethan, is that the type of architecture? | ||
| That are just completely swallowed. | ||
| Swallowed by the jungle. | ||
| And what's crazy is the wildest part of the world is where we need to go to get the minerals to make the batteries in your cell phone. | ||
| Maybe that's why it's the wildest. | ||
| But it no, no, no, it was always wild. | ||
| It's wild because it's like inhospitable. | ||
| I mean, they have the largest chimpanzees in the world there. | ||
| They have those b bondo apes there in the Congo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This place called Bealy. | ||
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Okay. | |
| They have this one subset of chimpanzees that's really large. | ||
| And they call them lion killers. | ||
| They have two different types of chimps that the locals describe ch tree beaters and lion killers. | ||
| Lion killers, they sleep on the ground like gorillas. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| They don't have to hide in trees. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're like, come get me, bitch. | ||
| Yeah, one. | ||
| They're like six foot tall, upright chimpanzees. | ||
| Like you know that Michael Crichton book, Congo. | ||
| You ever know? | ||
| He they made a movie. | ||
| Crichton's Jurassic Park. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Crichton made a movie, it was t kind of a goofy movie about the Congo. | ||
| And the Congo, in the movie, there's these like gray chimpanzees that are huge. | ||
| And uh obviously that's not real. | ||
| But that's what they're basically. | ||
| But it's based on this one subset of chimpanzees that actually has a crest on its skull like a gorilla. | ||
| So you know, gorillas have such large mandible because all they eat is vegetables that they have this. | ||
| This is the Michael Crichton movie. | ||
| It was kind of goofy. | ||
| Look at these big silly gorillas. | ||
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Oh wow. | |
| And they fucked this dude up. | ||
| They look so bad. | ||
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Oh wow. | |
| But the book is a lot better. | ||
| But in reality, there's a thing called the Bondo Ape. | ||
| And there's a s I guess it is a Swedish or Swiss wildlife photographer named Carl Armand, who became obsessed with this animal and started catching it in camera traps, and there was photos of these guys at See if you can find the photo of the guys at the airport where they shot one. | ||
| So these guys look at this these guys, but the that's not it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The one that one above it. | ||
| No, no, no, yeah, that it that's it. | ||
| Look at the size of that fucking thing. | ||
| Look at the size of that thing. | ||
| It's like a gorilla-sized chimpanzee. | ||
| And there's different photos of them on camera traps where they're shit. | ||
| No, no, that's a that's a orangutan, I think. | ||
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No. | |
| Or a gorilla. | ||
| Um but they have video these things now. | ||
| They know that they're a subset of chimpanzees. | ||
| That's not a really big one. | ||
| That's uh it looks like it's just a big chimp. | ||
| But the idea is that this place is like rugged. | ||
| I mean, this is a is leopards and like Joe, there's a lot of rugged places. | ||
| I d I just feel like when there's a place that's resource rich, there's gonna be a lot of conflict around it. | ||
| Oh, one well, that's the Amazon too. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Same kind of situation, like really wild, pristine jungle, and then people are hacking it down because they're they want to make cattle farms and you know, log. | ||
| But like, isn't it to the best interests of the parties that are invested in the resources there for there not to be social cohesion? | ||
| Like it's easier to manage if everybody's fighting, because if there is social cohesion, you have a uh situation like what is it, Rhodesia, which just basically goes, hey, we're gonna be a great country, by the way. | ||
| And we're gonna, you know, take back our mining rights and uh we're gonna make sure that we own our resources and then we're gonna educate our people, and we're gonna have a high GDP, like there's a pretty amazing story that's tied into it, and like we they're like, okay, well, we can't let that happen in the Congo. | ||
| We gotta keep this shit a little bit uh chaotic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because uh aren't there like especially with the uh the battery stuff. | ||
| Aren't there like only Nine different mines for that, and like China owns seven or something. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I don't know how many mines there are, but China owns a bunch of them. | ||
| And you know, that's uh Saddharth Kara wrote a book on it, and he came in and he got undercover footage that shows these people with babies on their back, pulling cobalt out of the ground with like a mask over their face, like a bandana to protect themselves from the toxic fumes. | ||
| I'm performing there next week. | ||
| I look forward to David Cross's blog about it. | ||
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My favorite post that people were not invited and don't have to even go. | |
| I really wouldn't. | ||
| It's like I probably wouldn't. | ||
| David probably wouldn't, you know. | ||
| Um there's a thing. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Yeah, I remember when David Cross wrote a letter to uh Larry the Cable Guy. | ||
| He was shitting on Larry the Cable Guy and like an open letter. | ||
| And then at the like the bottom of the post, it was like from New York City, he signed it like from New York City. | ||
| I saw him I saw him getting upset that Norman farted on his podcast. | ||
| That Mark Norman and like telling him that a fart isn't funny. | ||
| And I'm just like once I see you do that, I'm just gonna go. | ||
| Well, first of all, Norman is funny, period. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So if he's funny and he also farts, okay, who cares? | ||
| Well, also farts are funny. | ||
| And Norman said it, he's like, that wasn't a joke. | ||
| That was not funny. | ||
| And the Norman says, a sound came out of my butt. | ||
| That's always funny. | ||
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It's funny when a baby does it, it's funny when an adult does it. | |
| It is the funniest thing that does it. | ||
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What are we fucking talking about here? | |
| Like, obviously. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| It's funny because you're like, oh no. | ||
| And then he just dropped the N-word on the pod, and uh not Norman Cross, and then Norman's like Norman's like, you're gonna cut that out? | ||
| He's like, No, you don't have to cut it out. | ||
| It has the AH. | ||
| And it's like, oh well, thank you, white guy. | ||
| You tell us what N-words were allowed to say. | ||
| Uh you can tell us where the comedians are not allowed to perform, but you tell you tell the black community what N-words you're allowed to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's kind of hilarious. | ||
| You know, there's a hard N-word in Bob Dylan's hurricane. | ||
| I got a song The Hurricane about Ruben Carter. | ||
| I got a little hurricane story. | ||
| You want to hear it? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You met that guy? | ||
| No. | ||
| My uh my dad interviewed his lawyer. | ||
| Ruben Carter's lawyer? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Really? | ||
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And uh his lawyer says uh his lawyer says uh off the record. | |
| My dad goes, yeah. | ||
| He goes. | ||
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He did that shit. | |
| I probably shouldn't even say that I probably shouldn't even say it right now. | ||
| But the Lord just tells my dad is that it's a good thing. | ||
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Rob Dylan is made it all racial and he did it. | |
| Yeah, that's hilarious. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe the lawyer's wrong. | ||
| Or maybe he's right. | ||
| Maybe he's right. | ||
| Good song. | ||
| Didn't they have a movie about it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And in the movie, there's like a really racist cop that's like targeting him through the whole movie, and apparently the guy was a total construct. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There wasn't like one cop who was like really interested, he was chasing him that they used it as a vehicle to push the storyline, which I always think is gross when you're doing something about a historical person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that's gross. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you also make an obligation, though. | ||
| If you're making a movie about a historical person, you can't have a character that moves your plot along that didn't exist. | ||
| I mean Because now you're changing history for a lot of dumbasses who don't read a book. | ||
| I mean, that's what the people who the people who fucking you know dictate what history is. | ||
| You know, I was talking to you. | ||
| Sort of, but they're just doing it to make the movie better. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| They're doing it. | ||
| That's their their responsibility is to make money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was talking to Shane about this, and we were just talking about like uh ancient histories. | ||
| Like, yeah, I don't fuck with the ancient history, and I'm I'm like, why not? | ||
| And he goes, Nobody really knows what fucking Augustus said to this guy. | ||
| Like people just making it up and like writing it down afterwards. | ||
| He's like, you really kind of barely even know what happened 50 years ago or like a hundred years ago. | ||
| And I think that's one of the reasons why if you get into like antiquity, it's so interesting, because it's just been like mythologized. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So everything is so much more remarkable and amazing, and the people are so much more resilient because they've been retelling the story for two thousand years. | ||
| If you want people to listen to a story, you've got to make it interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta make it interesting. | ||
| And the the thing is also you have to remember it and then you have to tell it to people before anybody even figures out how to write things down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they're they're saying it for a thousand years before they even write it down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's my issues with the Bible. | ||
| I think the Bible is a historical account of something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think uh one of the real problems with the Bible is as you get older and older with the Bible, things get weirder and weirder. | ||
| So it's like, what was the original story? | ||
| Like if you get to the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Dead Sea Scrolls are bananas. | ||
| And there's stuff in the Dead Sea Scrolls. | ||
| Like if you get like uh I had Rep Luna, uh, you know, Anna Paulina Luna on the podcast, and she was talking to me about the Book of Enoch. | ||
| She goes, You ever read that? | ||
| And that's not included in the canonizer. | ||
| Here's why, because of rabbis, a f a bunch of rabbis said it didn't align with the Torah. | ||
| And so they yanked it out. | ||
| But it's an original biblical text, or at least a part of the religious original religious text that they found in the sea in the um Dead Sea Scrolls in Qumran. | ||
| When they found those clay tablets, the book of Enoch was in there as along with the book of Isaiah. | ||
| We need to call West. | ||
| The book of Enoch is nuts. | ||
| That's the giant stuff about it. | ||
| That's the giant's. | ||
| It's not just the giants, it's aliens. | ||
| It's about the watchers who came down and mated with human beings. | ||
| Bro, I'm reading it right now. | ||
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I know you are. | |
| Bananas. | ||
| It's she told me to read it. | ||
| And she was like, she's like, you have to read this. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| And what did Weshoft say? | ||
| Did he say there's a legitimacy? | ||
| Yeah, it's it's 100% of legitimate tech. | ||
| It's legitimate religious text. | ||
| But they decided not to include it because it's so nuts and because it goes against like what the writings of the Torah. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So but it was a few rabbis, just a few rabbis decided. | ||
| Like if the book of Enoch was included in the Bible, it changes the whole story of the human race. | ||
| Why would the rabbis decide what goes into the Christian? | ||
| Because back then they had that kind of power. | ||
| They just decided that it doesn't get included in the canon. | ||
| This is a long time ago. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, this is like around well, who decided the canonized Bible, right? | ||
| This is a like Constantine time, right? | ||
| Well, that's for the New Testament, right? | ||
| And so with the Old Testament, you've got a Weshoff would be the guy that took it. | ||
| Oh, wait a minute, Enoch was included in the Old Testament. | ||
| Oh, it's old as fuck. | ||
| Okay, got it. | ||
| Not only is it old as fuck, when they found it, they also found a version of the book of Isaiah. | ||
| This is one of the things that Wes Huff told me that was really fascinating. | ||
| They found a version of the book of Isaiah that is verbatim, the same as a version of uh the version of Isaiah that was a thousand years later, which they thought was the original. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| That's what's crazy. | ||
| For one thousand years, they maintained the exact same story, verbatim, writing it down and passing it on. | ||
| And the book of Enoch's in there with that. | ||
| And the book of Enoch is banana. | ||
| Yeah, I think we might need to do a little deep dive on the book of Enoch. | ||
| The book of Enoch, it says that these watchers came down and mated with human beings and created a race of giants called the Nephilim, yeah, who consumed and destroyed everything in front of them. | ||
| Gee, that sounds like people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sounds a lot like people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you got a bunch of little chimps, and then you got these tall aliens and they make a fucking seven foot man, yeah, you know, a Viking, who's like chopping off heads and lighting villages on fire and has this undesirable uh unstoppable desire for conquest, that's humans. | ||
| The Nephilim sounds like humans. | ||
| Like yeah, exactly. | ||
| So they're not giants, we are the giants, and then what if they might have been giants? | ||
| Like it's it's hard to say. | ||
| But what if the other folks were the Neanderthals? | ||
| Well Because there was a time where we're living together, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, they were here before us, allegedly. | ||
| Well, this is the question is like, where did humans come from? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is the real question. | ||
| There's a really interesting show on PBS right now called Human, where this lady goes on this journey of uh it's like she's uh what is her degree in? | ||
| Is she an anthropologist? | ||
| I believe she's an anthropologist. | ||
| But um, or maybe some sort of biologist, but she she goes over the history of the human species. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| The migration from across the Bering land bridge into North America, when the oldest people started coming here, where they how they came here, fascinating stuff. | ||
| But that's one of those things, like if you think ancient history is filled with horseshit, like ancient human history, like of the the human uh that's the woman's name. | ||
| I don't want to fuck up her name. | ||
| Ella Al Shamahi. | ||
| And um it's on BBC and PBS. | ||
| Really good show. | ||
| I just started watching it. | ||
| She's a paleontologist. | ||
| Um, but they just found recently a human skull that pushes the date of humans back another five hundred thousand years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like all they know is what they find in the fossil record, and there's so little fossil record. | ||
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| And then they keep finding new things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like they just found Denisovans in like 2010. | ||
| Like, what's that? | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Total new branch of the human tree. | ||
| It's called Dennis Oven's Dennis Ovens. | ||
| yeah they found like uh a bunch of teeth I think in Asia and they're like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| And then so or maybe it was Russia. | ||
| So there's that is the one that they found in China, the big head people. | ||
| Yeah, that's the one that's real recent. | ||
| That's real recent. | ||
| I forget what that one's called. | ||
| We've done this a million times but I always forget. | ||
| But so they're always finding these new versions of humans. | ||
| So how many of them really were there? | ||
| But if if there's a bunch of science experiments if aliens are coming down and like let's try them where they're short, really powerful and they only eat meat. | ||
| And that's Neanderthal's like stop this one's not a good design. | ||
| This is not a good design. | ||
| We need them a little more frail so they invent things. | ||
| Because the the brutes don't invent anything. | ||
| Yeah more frontal cortex. | ||
| Yeah the well the Neanderth Daniandals had bigger brains than us. | ||
| That's what's interesting. | ||
| So then what part of our brain was specifically different. | ||
| Aaron Ross Powell So we have a very um we we our idea of them is that they were dumb and they they couldn't talk and that they were brutes but it doesn't seem like that's true. | ||
| In fact it seems like they had art they definitely had tools and they had language and they might have been as smart as us. | ||
| They were just different and maybe us being a little weaker is what made us smarter. | ||
| Made us work collectively maybe we're a little more alien. | ||
| Just a touch there's a little too much salt in that stew. | ||
| Let's add a touch more of us and you know it seems like the hairy you know five foot seven two hundred pound fucking savages with big eyes that might be able to see at night because it looks like they might have had night vision. | ||
| They have huge eyeballs man. | ||
| The Neanderthal eye sockets way bigger than ours. | ||
| Their skulls thicker their bones are more dense they might have had night vision like a dog. | ||
| You know how dogs their eyes glow when the headlights hit 'em they might have had that same ability I mean yeah I don't know why that design's too that design's too sketchy it's just not really they can see at night yeah and then they go hunting other people this is too much but then we hunted them maybe we might have just fucked them. | ||
| I also heard we fucked them you're like I got a little bit of yeah one more time with the monkeys but in terms of like the stories like you know when you know when a comic gets off stage and like they think they killed but they bombed? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like there could be people telling those stories in the books. | ||
| There could be like meaning what the their rendition of what happens is in the book and and that is what they truly believed happened. | ||
| They might not even be delusional. | ||
| And history is always written by the winners. | ||
| Exactly yeah my version of the the Bible story back in the day I used to have this bit about Noah's Ark. | ||
| I was like the problem with the Bible is people are full of shit and that story sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like it's that simple it's like people lie all the time. | ||
| I've never met any politician or any person who's in charge of anything that's like really important that I would say never lies. | ||
| So if you're back then where there's zero accountability, zero video, zero anything they can't even write. | ||
| Well that's where the cross referencing makes sense, right? | ||
| It's like that's when you got a bunch of different people saying the same thing or similar things you just have to go, okay, maybe this this did happen. | ||
| But I don't know there's something there is something about it. | ||
| You know like every time I go to church and like whatever something about the music I get like emotional and I try I've tried to like reflect on it and understand like what it is I don't know if it's like seeing people submit to this power that's greater than them. | ||
| I don't there's just like I get there really emotional about it. | ||
| I don't know what the hell it is well it's a it's a combined shared experience that you're having with all the people that are in that building too. | ||
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| There's there's something to that. | ||
| And I'm just like watching yeah like maybe it's I like maybe I'm a little cynical and skeptical and like I can get caught up in the raw emotion of submitting to something that you cannot control. | ||
| And maybe there's a part of me that that really kind of like envies that and and wants to in the same way that like a lot of control. | ||
| I don't know if I have any but like You have a lot of discipline. | ||
| Yeah, but a person who like yourself does a lot of discipline and a lot of work ethic, that doesn't come without control over yourself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And you want to submit and give in to something sometimes. | ||
| And there's something beautiful in that. | ||
| And like seeing people do it so willingly, like I get fucking emotional. | ||
| It's yeah, it's and uh Yeah, I I've I've thought about it a lot. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| But it happens almost every time. | ||
| And it's specifically with the music. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think music is a very powerful thing. | ||
| I mean, that's when we were playing What Up Gangsta. | ||
| I mean, come on, man. | ||
| Well, like we're both on a drug. | ||
| Dude, there's a uh your whole body starts moving, you're like, oh come on. | ||
| I was talking to this guy, he's a photographer for um F1, he's been doing for like 30 years. | ||
| And uh he you know, he's been to he literally takes off one race a year to go to like this music festival. | ||
| He just loves music. | ||
| And like I asked him if he saw Oasis, because you know, Oasis is is back. | ||
| And um You're a fan of Oasis, yeah, love them. | ||
| And what's so interesting is happening like with with Oasis specifically is uh right now we don't live in like the monoculture anymore. | ||
| You know, like there's a thousand different silos and everybody thinks that like the thing happening in their world is the most important thing. | ||
| There's no like universal new rock star. | ||
| Like Justin Bieber might have been like the last person that was like a musician that everybody knows. | ||
| There's a K-pop band that none of us can name the guys that is the biggest band in the world. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But like back in the day, especially when we were growing up, there were bands that were just un metallica like performing in Russia. | ||
| You know, like these things were just kind of there was a monoculture, and then the internet has divided that, and that just is what it is. | ||
| But what's kind of interesting is I feel like people are the people who did experience monoculture, they're going back to these like nostalgic events. | ||
| It's like why existing IP movies are the only movies that work, right? | ||
| It's like they want to feel those moments when we all were experiencing the same thing at the same time. | ||
| And like I'm seeing these like Oasis clips. | ||
| Like all my boys, I was on Australia, but all my boys went to go see Oasis. | ||
| And like there's a really interesting thing. | ||
| The uh the lead singer, uh I guess is it Noel or Liam is the lead singer. | ||
| I'm such like a casual. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| Like he's just wearing a track suit. | ||
| Like he's just wearing like fucking like the month and like to me, I'm like, that's the most rock star shit. | ||
| Wearing the big flamboyant thing was rock star when everybody was wearing suits. | ||
| But now that everybody is big flamboy, just showing up in a fucking hoodie to your fucking stadium show, it just lets you know like I'll do whatever I'm gonna be the damn gonna throw it. | ||
| Waving Yeah, I don't know. | ||
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I like anybody feels the way I do. | |
| Oh my god, what I saw. | ||
| For real? | ||
| It's happened before. | ||
| We're that good. | ||
| We're that good. | ||
| So what do we have to do? | ||
| Cut that part out? | ||
| Yeah, let's cut that part. | ||
| We were just singing an Oasis song. | ||
| Unfortunately, you can't hear it because of tyranny. | ||
| Tyranny fascism. | ||
| But it's I don't know, like I love comics throwing out that word too. | ||
| That's a funny one. | ||
| Throwing out fascists. | ||
| Nobody even knows what that fucking word means. | ||
| That's the most annoying thing. | ||
| Nobody knows the definition of that shit. | ||
| There's a few people online that are like political uh debaters that know the definition of that word. | ||
| But what it is is like you're bad. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah, you're bad. | ||
| You're an asshole. | ||
| I'm gonna call you an asshole political. | ||
| I disagree with the things that you're doing. | ||
| So I'm gonna use this word that neither of us really know the definition of. | ||
| Because if you call me a fascist, I can't really say I'm not because I don't know what the fuck that shit is. | ||
| Well, that's the problem with like seeing things like Antifa. | ||
| Well, of course you're anti-fascist. | ||
| Yeah, it's a pretty good thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like the Patriot Act. | ||
| Oh, we all patriot. | ||
| Take my rights. | ||
| Of course I'm a patriot. | ||
| Take away my rights. | ||
| It's like every type of patriotism. | ||
| Like pushes a bill that's like the don't hurt women bill. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, but all it is is like tax incentives for some group. | ||
| And how you why Trump is so r ridiculous. | ||
| The big beautiful bill. | ||
| It's just like everything is market-like why with you're gonna be too big. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
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It's big. | |
| But that's the that's the political game, man. | ||
| It's a stupid fucking game. | ||
| Bro, it is. | ||
| It is a stupid game to base your entire personality and identity about. | ||
| That is That's the weird part. | ||
| And people do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, it's everything. | ||
| People do. | ||
| And they're they're in a life or death struggle every four years. | ||
| Like settle down. | ||
| Because it's a zero-sum game. | ||
| Power is a zero-sum game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's just like if I think that this person is going to completely change my life and completely strip me of everything I have, anybody that supports that person and that person are completely evil. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then once you think someone's evil, you can do anything to them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, the people that have an argument about that are Mexican immigrants. | ||
| Especially the children of Mexican immigrants who maybe their family, maybe they're illegal because they were born here, but their parents aren't and they're realizing their parents might get kicked out. | ||
| That's scary. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| That's scary. | ||
| I don't like the IC stuff at all. | ||
| It's not just bad, it's bad for them. | ||
| And I don't know how they don't realize that this is the worst look ever. | ||
| It's it's also a bad look for ICE. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like ICE itself is a very important institution. | ||
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| Like you want to make sure that you have a government program that can enforce the borders and also like remove people that are here illegally, especially people that are doing criminal activity. | ||
| Like this is an institution that we shouldn't malign. | ||
| This is one that we should be proud of. | ||
| This is a good thing. | ||
| But then when every video coming out is like seeing these people being like torn, their families and all this kind of stuff. | ||
| It's like, yeah, you're gonna have a lot of animosity towards these groups. | ||
| I know we're having this conversation right now, there's already people getting a video going, well, this is what you guys wanted. | ||
| And this is like one of the things I actually talk to Trump about is like, how can we not do this? | ||
| Like what can we do? | ||
| How do we have these people who have been living here for fucking ten years and they're paying taxes? | ||
| Like, why don't we give them a pathway to citizenship? | ||
| And I specifically was like, yo, you own hotels. | ||
| You've employed these people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know they're good people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like if you like work entertainers, like we work in fucking restaurants. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like we know we work with these people and you see them grinding, like I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, that's a very frustrating thing. | ||
| I think their problem with it is multifaceted, but I think one of the issues is the way the census works. | ||
| Because the way the census works, you get congressional seats based on the amount of people that live in an area, regardless of whether or not those people are citizens. | ||
| So nuts? | ||
| So if you have uh import so like you say if you import uh how do you prove that they're there then if they're illegal? | ||
| Because again, no the census doesn't check to see your legality. | ||
| It just counts the number of people that live in a residence. | ||
| But how do you count it? | ||
| Like they have to fill the census out, right? | ||
| Why would they fill it out if they're here illegally? | ||
| Um that's a good question. | ||
| But it's they know. | ||
| They know based on employment, they know it's like there's a bunch of different uh points of uh of data that they get it from. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| But the point is it doesn't matter if they're illegal. | ||
| So if you fill out a sentence and you're illegal, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You it's it just matters how many people are in this area, and that dictates how many congressional seats you get. | ||
| So if you can abort a bunch of people, also if you encourage these people to fill out the census because it's politically beneficial to your party, right? | ||
| Especially if you help those people get in. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So if you invited them into this country, actually flew them out to that place, put them up in hotels, that kind of deal, then you can get more congressional seats because you have more human beings. | ||
| So that's the argument. | ||
| Like a lot of people chalk it up to uh they're giving these people voting rights, and it's like, no, that's not what's happening. | ||
| They're actually increasing the amount of representatives you could have in a certain district. | ||
| They are, but then we went over this yesterday in Tim Wals's state in Minnesota, they actually passed a law where they give them driver's licenses and they could use those driver's licenses to vote. | ||
| It's not legal, but someone could break the law and do it with those driver's licenses. | ||
| The problem is they know that some people have. | ||
| There definitely have been instances where illegal aliens have voted for whatever election. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the question is did they move them there for congressional seats, did they move them there for cheap labor? | ||
| Did they move them there because if they they pay for these people and give them ABT cards and then eventually they devise a pathway to citizenship if they get like a Democrat in in four years, we have to take care of our community regardless of whether you can if you're a good person, a hardworking person, we want you to join team America. | ||
| And that's how I feel. | ||
| That's how I feel. | ||
| And so then all of a sudden those people who you gay got in, gave EBT cards, put them up in the Roosevelt, now those people are voting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And obviously they're gonna vote for the people who have protected them and I wouldn't blame them for that at all. | ||
| Especially now, this is why it's politically dangerous for the Republicans. | ||
| Because this support of ICE and seeing that that you just lost the whole Latino base, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Except the hardcore Cubans who don't have a fuck. | ||
| Yeah, that's the fuck out of here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We ain't voting Democrat. | ||
| That was the joke I had, it's like the second they put their foot on dry land, they're like, we gotta stop this immigration. | ||
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This is this is too much, guys. | |
| This is too much. | ||
| Especially from communist countries. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here with those ideas. | ||
| They've experienced communism, and that's why they embrace materialism. | ||
| Cubans love Cuban links, big ass gold chains, so let a motherfucker know I got some cheda. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like because in their country, like you get what they give you, and that's it. | ||
| I heard uh I heard a good quote. | ||
| You know, you know uh you know Carlos Slim is. | ||
| You've heard of Carlos Slim, he's like a telecommunication magnet, he's like wealthiest guy to Mexico, but they're all over the world. | ||
| He's like you know, super billionaire. | ||
| And um apparently out of you know, this is a second hand, but like uh he's this guy who I don't know what he looks like, but I'm aware of his name. | ||
| He's incredibly powerful, incredibly successful. | ||
| What a great name. | ||
| Carlos amazing, right? | ||
| And uh sounds like a pool player, right? | ||
| It sounds like uh he's related to iceberg. | ||
| Yeah, the guy who wrote the uh book he wrote a book on Pippin. | ||
| That book is terrifying. | ||
| Like I was like, how do I make sure these guys don't meet my wife? | ||
| Like it's fucking horrifying that book. | ||
| But um But yeah, he had an interesting thing, but like I'm always impressed by these guys who have all this power, but they don't want any of the limelight. | ||
| Like I don't know what he looks like, but I know the name and I know he's involved in everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And uh apparently he said something like um even billionaires can be new to money. | ||
| Implying that like a lot of the guys that we see, we hear, the guys that are all over the place, like they're new to this, and they on some level want it to be known that they got it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the people who've maybe done it for you know, legacy generations, they're like, you actually get yourself in more trouble the more people know. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But it's hard to like be broken and get some money and not want to flex it. | ||
| Well, even if you don't want to flex it, if you just have it, like if you're Jeff Bezos, you're out in the middle of the Caribbean you know, with Lauren Sanchez chilling on a yacht. | ||
| There's someone with a drone taking photos of it. | ||
| I mean, you also do your wedding in Venice, like you want to flex it. | ||
| That was flexing. | ||
| You want to flex it. | ||
| That was her, I bet. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She was like, I want a big thing. | ||
| Oh, wait, you don't think Jeff wanted to do his second wedding in Venice? | ||
| With a bunch of celebrities, invite every famous person on earth, the Kardashian show. | ||
| Yeah, three times. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You don't think he wanted that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| But that's what happens, bro. | ||
| So the wedding is the wife's issue. | ||
| Right, and you kind of gotta go too. | ||
| You're like, damn, we don't have to be a good thing. | ||
| You kinda gotta do their own. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were talking about Jeff going to his own wedding. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that too. | ||
|
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| Do I have to go? | ||
| This feels like your thing. | ||
| Are you sure I have to do it? | ||
| You in this venture? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You like if you get invited to that and you're like one of their fucking friends, you're like, oh great. | ||
| Yeah, fly to Venice and be a part of the zoo. | ||
| See, that's how you that's like that's how like kind of we would feel about it. | ||
| But there are certain people who are like, I think they almost define themselves by those invitations. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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What? | |
| I think I define myself being able to miss the wedding. | ||
| Well, there's also a thing that we actually make stuff ourselves rather than have to uh get hired to go make us stuff. | ||
| You know, like you'll do a movie occasionally if you want to, but you make your own comedy, you make your own podcast, you make your own stuff. | ||
| When you're an actor and you don't make your own stuff and you gotta appear in other people's stuff, there's a whole different layer of bullshit that you have to dance with. | ||
| There's a reliance. | ||
| Yeah, there's a reliance, and then there's also like a currency of being current, you know, and hot. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep. | ||
| You gotta be a part of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's when you know, one of the things you see about comics that lash out of people, it's like Marin's a good example of this. | ||
| Is like once you've got no currency, that's when you start lashing out. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Because you gotta get attention some way. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And you're not getting it through your art. | ||
| So what's the what's the way to get it? | ||
| You have to figure out some way to be current. | ||
| So find out what is current and then shit all over it. | ||
| And get the people who who think Elon's a fuckwit. | ||
| He's a fuckwit. | ||
| Yeah, like get those people, and they're like, yeah, fuck Schultz, yeah. | ||
| Folk broke and fuck everybody, but I mean, that's the that's gotta be the worst thing, is like to be a comic that only gets attention when you talk about comedy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like you want to get attention from your jokes. | ||
| You want People to like you for the function. | ||
| You want to have a really interesting point that nobody else thought of. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hilarious or something fucking stupid and silly that's hilarious. | ||
| Like, that's what we love. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And like that's what you actually really want. | ||
| But like when the only reason anybody's talking about you is because you're shitting on your colleagues. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like that's what's bothering you in the world. | ||
| But I think I think that's what happened with just the whole like what's happening right now with the comedy economy, it's like I think people are feeling I think I think young comics are probably feeling a little bit like concerned that they don't know the way forward. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They also don't know whether or not they're being forced to participate in these pylons or whether they should back off. | ||
| And then they get pressure and they don't know what to do. | ||
| Like I cut young guys and young women a lot more slack than I do the OGs, these people that have been around for a long time. | ||
| And you should know that this is not fair, it's not cool. | ||
| And it you also should if you have an opinion on what these people are doing with whatever, whether it's Riyadh or whether have some kind of compassion for these people as human beings and as colleagues, and be charitable. | ||
| Be charitable. | ||
| This is what I try to do. | ||
| I try to be very charitable when I talk about anybody that I'm not like in a like a real serious thing, like a Mark Barron type thing with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy I'm like, fuck you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're you're a problem. | ||
| But he made his bed. | ||
| Yeah, he made his well, he made his bed, and the Theo thing just really drove me crazy. | ||
| Because Theo is the sweetest fucking human being. | ||
| I I love him to death. | ||
| You think that man wants to be talking about another comedian? | ||
| Like, do you think that his own? | ||
| The thing is that's you remember what comics would all they talk about is like airline seats and travel. | ||
| It's because that's all they knew. | ||
| Because they were on the road out of the room. | ||
| On the road constantly that's because that's all they think about. | ||
| That's all he thinks about is other people doing better than him. | ||
| So that's what he wants to be about it. | ||
| Where's your thoughts on Gaza? | ||
| Oh, I haven't heard him say anything about that one. | ||
| Kind of weird. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There was some crazy estimate. | ||
| The actual official tallies, like 67,000 people dead. | ||
| It's gonna be more than that, but Steven Dozinger uh had a thing on his page where there's some human rights group that estimates it to be as high as four hundred thousand. | ||
| Yeah, because I don't think they count missing as dead yet. | ||
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No. | |
| I mean there's no way there's no way they know. | ||
| You look at all that rubble, and bro, okay. | ||
| So there's that, but then there's also what Hamas is doing right now in in Gaza, which is crazy. | ||
| These executions and tortures of people that they think collaborated with Israel. | ||
| Horrific. | ||
| Horrific. | ||
| Me and Tommy Segura have a uh a text thread that we go back and forth with literally the worst shit we find every day. | ||
| It's like a trauma thread. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And uh I sent him one. | ||
| Someone just needs to feel something, huh? | ||
| He just needs to feel that's why I said it's these things. | ||
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You gotta show him the worst shit ever. | |
| He's like, Alright, I am human. | ||
| Yeah, I sent him one. | ||
| He was like, that one was rough. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's uh they they were breaking this guy's bones with boulders. | ||
| They had this guy blindfolded and he was sitting down and they took this enormous rock and threw it on his shin and snapped his shin in half. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And this guy's screaming. | ||
| And then they take his arm and they stretch his arm out, and this guy hits it with his giant bat and crushes his arm. | ||
| That's horrific. | ||
| It is so crazy what they're doing, and they're doing it on you know, Samsung 4K video on a cell phone. | ||
| And kids can see it. | ||
| Anybody can see it. | ||
| My kids saw the Charlie Kirk assassination. | ||
| Bro, you know, it's like uh I didn't want to see it, and then someone sent it to me. | ||
| I think Tom sent it to me, actually. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I'm like, all right, let me see. | ||
| And then I watched, I was like, oh God. | ||
| But that's yeah, that's the that's the tricky thing right now is because I think that like as far as we've been comedians, there's been like a clear path of how to make it. | ||
| It didn't mean that it was accessible to everybody, but like when you're growing up, I'm sure it's like get an HBO special. | ||
| When I'm coming up, it was HBO, and then it transitioned to come on the Joe Rogan podcast. | ||
| And that was the thing. | ||
| And did it mean every single comedian that came on here became a millionaire? | ||
| No. | ||
| But a lot fucking did. | ||
| You gotta look. | ||
| You gotta look and you got an audience that was interested and curious and like. | ||
| If you were legit, if you were Shane Gillis, if you were you, if you were Ari Shafir, whatever it was, you popped off. | ||
| And we saw it like instantaneously. | ||
| It was like you come on and then your podcast would go number one afterwards. | ||
| Like you remember this, right? | ||
| And it was like, okay, so then comics were like, okay, wow, there's a pathway forward. | ||
| And then like the clip economy and the YouTube specials and these things start happening, and then people are like, okay, I do that. | ||
| That's how I go pop in. | ||
| Then Kill Tony erupts, and it's like, oh shit, if I can get a spot on Kill Tony, then I can make it. | ||
| And I think that like now people are going, okay. | ||
| I I might not be the right fit for Kill Tony because the character based things really explode more than like, say a traditional comic. | ||
| It's like, okay, I don't do that. | ||
| It's like, I don't know how I can even get on Joe. | ||
| And if I do get on Joe, can I be on enough for the audience? | ||
| We'll see it. | ||
| I put a YouTube special out, but like it seems like there's a hundreds of YouTube specials out, so it's like I don't know if that's gonna be the thing that breaks me. | ||
| So I think that the younger comics are kind of experiencing this thing where they're like, I don't know the pathway forward. | ||
| And someone's gonna invent some shit. | ||
| Someone's gonna do the thing that I did that you did where you just try something new and then it catches on and fucking that dominates what it is. | ||
| But like I think they're in this pi this period where like I don't know what to do. | ||
| And when you don't know what to do and you're not where you want to be, that's where I think the bitterness starts to come out. | ||
| Well, you also don't know what the path forward is and if it there it's ever gonna arrive for you, or if you're just gonna be like on the outside forever. | ||
| So you're toiling in obscurity, and then you're just and then you start to feel resentful. | ||
| And you start to feel angry. | ||
| Before you might feel resentful and angry, but you're like, you know what, there might be a chance Joe could see me, he'll bring me on his podcast, and then I can have all this fucking success. | ||
| And it's like so I do empathize with that like anger, but the knee-jerk reaction to just shit on everything and try to shit on the scene and like shit on Austin or like shit on these things. | ||
| I I don't think they realize that that's not gonna get them any closer. | ||
| It will get him like immediate attention. | ||
| A bunch of their comedian friends around them are gonna click and like and do these things, but it's not gonna be that long-term sustained career. | ||
| You don't build a fan base by going, I don't like that place. | ||
| You also alienate the newest scene in the world. | ||
| You alienate people who actually help you. | ||
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This is the thing. | |
| But that I mean, that's the internet, right? | ||
| It's like that's the crazy thing. | ||
| It's like you have to say you have to have an N-word joke, you have to ha you know, you have to go on and have a trans joke. | ||
| And and this is just the same thing. | ||
| It's be you know what the problem is, it's a walled garden. | ||
| Uh, Austin is a walled garden. | ||
| Like if you're on the outside, you see all these people having so much fun in the garden, you're like, you I can't even I'm not even in there. | ||
| Fuck those people. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not, but it's an appearance of a walled garden. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then I think that there's like people on another level up that we were saying earlier that are like seeing these like people talk shit about it, and they're getting concerned that it could like negatively impact them in a way. | ||
| So they're doing this like it's it's the most pussy shit. | ||
| They're like trying to create a little distance. | ||
| Not too much where they can't call you and say, hey, I gotta I gotta do it. | ||
| Oh, you mean Andrew Santino? | ||
| Yeah, like not too much, where it's like, oh, I'd like to come on your pot, but I'll have a guy who's gonna shit on you for the whole fucking episode and not give you pushback. | ||
| It's like and it's not just him, like I've seen other people do it, and it's just like, dude, dude, dude, you're gonna go through some cancel shit later, all these guys. | ||
| They're gonna go through something later. | ||
| And they had a guy that they could call that would bring them on the biggest platform platform in the world and let them explain themselves, have their back. | ||
| Like, you will do it. | ||
| Well, I would still do that with Santina. | ||
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You of course you would. | |
| That's your boy. | ||
| That's your boy. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| He's a fucking amazing hang. | ||
| That was a bad move. | ||
| That was a bad move, in my opinion. | ||
| He felt like, look, Mark is irrelevant and he's yelling these things out, like, let him rant. | ||
| Everyone's gonna know what he's doing. | ||
| But I don't think everybody on the outside does. | ||
| Because they don't know comedy. | ||
| They don't know the business. | ||
| And it looks like you're co-signing it all. | ||
| And it looks like that you're okay with this. | ||
| And like I'm fine with you having him on. | ||
| Like, I would have Marin on, but we're gonna go at it. | ||
| Like Akaj calls him out. | ||
| Akash calls him out every single episode. | ||
| He's just like, come on, you pussy, let's talk about it. | ||
| Yeah, you ain't shit. | ||
| Yeah, so it's like it's like but it's like, yeah, but also defend your boy. | ||
| And that's also important because at at a baseline, people don't want to see people abandon their friends at like a baseline human thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even if you got your friend's back when he's going through some shit, even if you disagree with that person did, like baseline human, you go, Yeah. | ||
| I kind of would want that guy as a friend. | ||
| There was a video of Trump on Letterman when uh I think it's Letterman, I'm pretty sure it's Letterman. | ||
| Trump when uh Mike Tyson got convicted. | ||
| And bro, it's like the most unpopular opinion in the world. | ||
| He goes, I think is his attorneys were terrible. | ||
| They had the worst defense I've ever heard in my life. | ||
| This girl came up to his room at 1 a.m. | ||
| They said she was dancing a few hours later, she was hanging out with people, having a good time. | ||
| She came over, took off her panty shield in the in his bathroom. | ||
| Like and she'd also accused someone of rape uh that wasn't that was unjustly accused of rape. | ||
| So she'd done it before. | ||
| She had done the same thing before. | ||
| You know, I don't know what the fuck happened there. | ||
| Obviously, but that was his boy, and he defended his boys. | ||
| Look, we don't know. | ||
| We don't know what happened. | ||
| And he said it on letterband. | ||
| I respect that shit. | ||
| And he was like, whoa, and but a lot of people in the comments did too. | ||
| Like, wow. | ||
| And Tyson got his back, you know that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like they've talked to Tyson decades later. | ||
| Always has. | ||
| Yeah, it's i yeah, it's a different I don't know. | ||
| To me, I'm like, I thought this is normal. | ||
| Like I thought this is because you're a man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| There's a lot of these people that are like a salamander that's never gone through its final developmental changes, and they're they s they're stuck in like an adolescent stage of evolution forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's there's there's men that are like that. | ||
| But that are, you know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And maybe it's because I like know guys like you and like Charlemagne who like I see them going through shit, and I see people like will try to like get me to talk to it's like it ain't gonna happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like I know these people as human beings. | ||
| You know a 30 second TikTok of them. | ||
| So if you want to have that conversation, we're gonna have it, but like you're not gonna like the way it goes because these people are my friends, like real friends. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not like colleagues. | ||
| There are people who we're colleagues with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But like my real friends, you guys are at my wedding. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you've been in my way, like my wedding wasn't like a comedy hangout. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was people who I'm close to, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like by the way, it's like one of the only weddings I've ever been to. | ||
| And I respected that. | ||
| Took a COVID test. | ||
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Took a COVID test. | |
| You were so upset about it too, you're like, here, bitch. | ||
| You're like, I'm free of it, bitch. | ||
| I was already over. | ||
| Well, that I don't even know if I had been. | ||
| I don't think you got the beginning of being canceled for about the COVID stuff. | ||
| I was like, it was just starting. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Can I pee real quick? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Let's pee. | ||
| We're back. | ||
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We're back. | |
| Um when Tony got into it when the first one with uh the Asian thing, uh, when he got into that. | ||
| He was people didn't know the he was totally not always he set up, um, people don't know the full context of it. | ||
| This guy did this whole set of like it was like real bad comedy, and it was uh why do you hate Asians? | ||
| Everybody hates Asians, and so Tony gets up and makes fun of him for being Chinese afterwards. | ||
| They take that, they run with it. | ||
| Tony fortunately had a video of that guy's set and released it along with his full set. | ||
| Well, you see, this is just what he does. | ||
| He's just fucking around and then he kills. | ||
| He kills for the entire set, and he released that and then the cancellation basically died off. | ||
| But when he was going through it, man, I I was really worried about him. | ||
| Like genuinely worried about him. | ||
| He thought his life was over. | ||
| He had never experienced anything like that before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I took him with me to Salt Lake City. | ||
| And it was only God, I guess a week and a half. | ||
| He took off one weekend. | ||
| We did a uh show in Houston, and he's like, I just I don't think I can go on stage. | ||
| I was like, just take this weekend off. | ||
| I'm I'm gonna pay you anyway. | ||
| I'll go, I'll pay you, just relax, and then we'll do Salt Lake City. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I just just I know you're going through it. | ||
| Just get so then he went on stage one night at the Vulcan, he's like, dude, I think I could do it. | ||
| I'm back, I'm back. | ||
| And so then people didn't know that he was gonna be with me in Salt Lake City. | ||
| So we're in the back of the room, and I announce the opening act. | ||
| And I said, ladies and gentlemen, one of my best friends, Tony Henchcliffe, and they went, Yeah, they stood up, arms raised, like, fuck yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It was part of it was because I was supporting him. | ||
| He was going through it was public, it was in the middle of everything, and the he went up and destroyed the love that he got from those people, and then he went and just ran with it. | ||
| And he had material on it, he was already talking about it, and it's just uh it was beautiful, but it was beautiful to watch him realize like, oh, I'm gonna be okay. | ||
| The internet is not reality. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he had that moment in real time. | ||
| But he also had you having his back. | ||
| Like that's the and I think people see that also. | ||
| Like I think there's people in the crowd that see that, and I think on a primal level, they go, Man, if I got caught up in some fuck shit, I would really like it if my friend had my back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If people were saying things about me that my friends know were false, and they use their platforms to talk or you know, put me on or whatever it is. | ||
| I think deep down viscerally they go, Oh, that's a good guy. | ||
| You gotta try to like help people you know, I tried to get Steve Renazizi on when that 9 11 stuff happened, yeah, and he decided to go on Stern instead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, okay, but I'm telling you, I if I have you on, I can navigate it a little more compassionately. | ||
| But I don't think at the time he understood where podcasts were versus where Stern was at the time. | ||
| Stern was still stern in his eyes, but it wasn't stern in terms of like the reach. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And even if it was, he's not gonna handle you the same way I'm gonna handle you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like I'm gonna give you all the room in the world. | ||
| And I'm gonna put myself in a position where I can imagine if I made up a story and then I got stuck with it. | ||
| Like, oh no. | ||
| You know, and what is the way forward with that? | ||
| Well, I guess the way forward, he eventually had to address it and talk about it on stage, and you know, but you you can help people. | ||
| You could really it really does work. | ||
| If you have a platform and someone's going through something, like you really can save their their world. | ||
| You can. | ||
| You can. | ||
| Especially if you show that you have support and you love them and you talk about it and talk about what a great person they are. | ||
| Like Tony's one of my favorite people ever. | ||
| Yeah, Tony's great, man. | ||
| And like I he has this massive thing, and naturally we wanna pick at the people that are incredibly successful. | ||
| It's just like human nature, fucking Taylor Swift gets it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like bro, here's the thing. | ||
| Yeah, Kill Tony wasn't that big back then. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| No, back then, I'm saying even now. | ||
| Yeah, but now, well well, the thing is the second cancellation, like after he did the Puerto Rico thing. | ||
| Yeah, the Puerto Rico thing. | ||
| Yeah, he was already ready. | ||
| He's like, I've been through this fucking storm before. | ||
| I'm just gonna tie down these sails and ride this motherfucker out. | ||
| But if he hadn't been through that, that would have been even more devastating because then you're getting canceled by CNN and New York Times and you know they had stories pre-written, ready to go, blaming the loss of Trump on Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| And then the Latino went vote went up by 15%. | ||
| He said Tony said the first night he slept was the night that I endorsed Trump. | ||
| For real. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And he he literally said, dude, that was the first night. | ||
| He goes, I think it's gonna be okay now. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Which is crazy. | ||
| because that's part of the reasons why I did it. | ||
| We're going to get Tony out of here. | ||
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Save his life. | |
| We're going to protect Tony. | ||
| Yeah, if you didn't get it, he didn't even need to. | ||
| The Puerto Ricans were like, we got this. | ||
| Yeah, well, Puerto Ricans take a joke better than anybody on the planet. | ||
| This is a great shit talking community. | ||
| It's they talk shit to each other. | ||
| It's part of the stuff. | ||
| They're not gonna be sensitive about anything. | ||
| Now, what I would have told Zoni and like what I said to him is like, I wish you had told me like what the set is, because like New Yorkers have this idea of Puerto Rico as this like beautiful Caribbean island. | ||
| It's like our first vacation in New York when we go to a fancy place, it's Puerto Rico. | ||
| So I think when he was connecting it to the the the island of garbage, which I knew where he's going. | ||
| There was like a island of garbage floating in the Pacific Atlantic or the Pacific, Pacific Garbage Pass. | ||
| So it was actually he was bringing it to something that was a popular story like a year or two ago. | ||
| But New Yorkers don't know what the fuck is floating. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like we're just like, yo, Puerto Rico's So I think that they were just like, oh, that was weird. | ||
| We don't see Puerto Rico in that way. | ||
| Well, you know, not necessarily because that joke murders when he did it at Madison Square Garden when he was opening for me. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Fucking murdered. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| Murdered. | ||
| Because it's just a joke. | ||
| But the thing is, it's just a joke. | ||
| But it's also Puerto Rico, if you don't know, has a massive garbage problem. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know. | ||
| Because they have a landfill issue because they don't have much land. | ||
| It's like all these fucking tourists coming over there with their fucking water bottles. | ||
| I mean, and they got a huge hole in the ground that's overflowing with trash. | ||
| At the end of the day, it's a fucking joke. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| It's not a joke he should have done there. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| If he was running that joke by me, I'd be like, no. | ||
| It's not the one. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Or there's a different place that you could use that might be. | ||
| I told him not to do it, period. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I was like, there's no upside to this. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| This is a it's not gonna be a comedy crowd. | ||
| And meanwhile, he goes on after some guy has got this crazy we're gonna take back America. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Even doing comedy in that environment is is like the trickiest thing. | ||
| And like I do think like in general, like us just having politicians on and like even going to the rally or way, where it's like I think what's happened is that we've politicized ourselves and like we've brought ourselves into the game of politics, Which is the ugliest game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like it is the ugliest game. | ||
| Because it's that zero sum shit we were saying earlier. | ||
| It's just like this is people really believe it's life or death. | ||
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Uh huh. | |
| Dude, I was pushing my my daughter in a stroller, right? | ||
| And uh a lady goes, Hey, this is in New York. | ||
| She goes, Hey, didn't you have Trump on your podcast? | ||
| And I was like, I already know it's gone. | ||
| I'm like, I'm like, Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He was yeah, he was on a podcast. | ||
| And she's like, uh, well, I hope your daughter has a good life. | ||
| I'm like, bitch, you live in Tribeca. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Like, like, what do you think is happening over here? | |
| Your husband works for fucking Goldman. | ||
|
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You know what I mean? | |
| Like, what do you think he's voting for? | ||
| But like that type of vitriolic hate to a stranger on the street. | ||
| What'd you say to her? | ||
| I said, uh, I go, uh, I go, Oh, do you have a daughter? | ||
| Because she just looked lonely, and I really wanted her to be like, no, and then I was just gonna lower the fucking boom. | ||
| And then she was like, Yeah, I have two. | ||
| And I was like, okay, well, I hope they have good lives. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| She outcrowd worked me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I was like, show like I was like in shock. | ||
| Like, I'm like, with like there's a I'm with a child. | ||
| Like, why are you talking to me in the street? | ||
| Like I saw a video of a lady getting out of a cyber truck in New Jersey, and some woman yelled at Are You Fucking Racist, you racist? | ||
| She's like, What? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Somebody just gave me a ride. | ||
| No, it's like she was got a ride from somebody out of cyber truck. | ||
| And she got out of the car. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And you know, and some lady started calling her a racist. | ||
| Yeah, so out of nowhere. | ||
| There's insane people. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's like, and someone always been here, and they're even more rooted in their insanity because it's rewarded every time they go on their phone. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like their crazy opinions are just like, yeah, you're right about that opinion. | ||
| Here's evidence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 30 seconds at a time. | ||
| And they're dumb, so they don't realize what it's doing to them. | ||
| So they're on that fucking shit all day long getting aggravated. | ||
| And they're desperate for community. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Their whole identity is this community. | ||
| God forbid they have an a dissenting opinion. | ||
| All of a sudden that community is going to ostracize them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's literally what happened to like Ezra. | ||
| Like Ezra's actually trying to have real conversations. | ||
| Like he believes in what Democrats can do and think that they're the best for government. | ||
| And he's like, How can we make this happen? | ||
| And then there are people that would be like his biggest supporters. | ||
| The second he moves a little bit away, it's I can't believe he's turned into a right wing grifter. | ||
| They talk calling Ezra Klein a right wing grifter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or Elon Musk, a fuck with. | ||
| Yeah, it's the same thing. | ||
| You you're never gonna make everybody happy. | ||
| And as your profile increases, the number of ignorant people that are paying attention and commenting on you increases. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It is and so it's that's a great point. | ||
| It's like yeah, it's like the percentage doesn't change, but the amount changes drastically because you have so many more people watching. | ||
| Well, especially if there's an event. | ||
| Like if you had Trump on the podcast, that's the event, and then ignorant people just start yapping out their opinion. | ||
| The funniest thing is, and I want them to have opinions. | ||
| No, you guys think it's a beautiful thing. | ||
| I'll never tell anybody not to say anything. | ||
| But like the funniest thing about the Trump pot is that like initially it was Kamala's campaign and the Democrats like loving the interview. | ||
| Because Trump said that thing. | ||
| It was a really fascinating thing to happen because both sides were going, Oh, this is awesome. | ||
| And I was like, Holy shit. | ||
| Like, what did he say? | ||
| He goes, uh he says one of the funniest things ever, you guys uh he goes, I'm basically an honest person. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And then he says it to me and I just laugh because I'm like, that's it. | ||
| I laugh for a few reasons. | ||
| Like, one, I laugh because it's a hilarious thing to say. | ||
| It's very but two, it's like actually the most honest thing to say. | ||
| Like if I'm deconstructing it, it's like anybody who goes, I've never told a lie, you're like, you're a fucking liar. | ||
| You just told one. | ||
| But saying you're basically honest is like, yeah, I pretty much mostly tell the truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, sometimes I say Melania looks skinnier than she does. | ||
| You know, whatever the fuck every husband's but like it's I don't know, it was just the funniest thing. | ||
| Or the Epstein files is a hoax. | ||
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Bro, the fucking Epstein thing is just nothing but a hoax. | |
| It's just it's just I I don't even understand. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| It's it is the easiest political victory. | ||
| Like if you if you just it is what it isn't. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Um I'm not supporting anything, just be really clear, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Um but if you are if you have relationships with all these insanely wealthy people that are gonna be hurt by this fairly impacted by this. | ||
| Like this is the ultimate political football. | ||
| Because uh I don't know what the numbers are, I don't know who the people are, but I've heard things, and if those things are true, you're dealing with some of the most powerful people in the world, some of the wealthiest people in the world. | ||
| They gotta go down. | ||
| Yeah, well, it depends on what they did, right? | ||
| It's like, did you go over there and have sex with a 24-year-old and do coke? | ||
| Or did you go totally fine? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or did you go over there? | ||
| But here Wouldn't you want that out? | ||
| I would want that out. | ||
| If like you're gonna be able to do that. | ||
| Yeah, but they would you wouldn't want that out because like how do you you're connected to pedophilia? | ||
| What no matter what? | ||
| Oh, right, because you're like Epstein's Island. | ||
| She was 24, and then someone's gonna go, Well, did you ideer? | ||
| And you're like, Well, no, I didn't idea. | ||
| I did you see underage girls? | ||
| Were you there? | ||
| Are you complicit? | ||
| So you don't want to even be around it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, you can't be around it. | ||
| I mean, the guy 100% had sexual relationships with under sh underage girls in at least in Florida. | ||
| Convicted. | ||
| And convicted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so that and you knew that when you were meeting him. | ||
| That's the Bill Gates thing that's the craziest. | ||
| I don't really Stephanopoulos guy. | ||
| Like a bunch of them went over there. | ||
| A lot of people went over there. | ||
| A lot of a lot of scientists went over there. | ||
| And I think those guys thought they were going over there for this beautiful place where you can go. | ||
| This guy's donating money to science. | ||
| You're hanging out with movie stars, this intellectual discourse. | ||
| So tell me about string theory. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, it's really fascinating. | ||
| One things we've learned, and you're having cocktails, like this place is great. | ||
| And then you can get your dick sucked. | ||
| It's like a Diddy party for nerds. | ||
|
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Exactly. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| But a lot of people went to those parties. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't want to say uh Asana Mahd's joke, but I don't want to say a joke. | ||
| I don't want to ruin his joke. | ||
| Shout out to San Man. | ||
| Assan's great. | ||
| He's got a great joke that compares it to Diddy. | ||
| He's filming a special son too. | ||
| Yes, he is. | ||
| I'm very excited about it. | ||
| This weekend. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| So this coming. | ||
| This upcoming weekend at the mothership. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, it's at the Black Rabbit. | ||
| Black Rabbit. | ||
| So make sure you guys go check that out. | ||
| He is great. | ||
| And he that guy works hard. | ||
| I've known him since he was a door man at the comedy store. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, him and Derek do the solid show together. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So I got to know Asan. | ||
| No, Asan's great, man. | ||
| We have a great pod, man. | ||
| Super smart dude, too. | ||
| But yeah, that's a very interesting guy. | ||
| Great green room hang. | ||
| That's yeah. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| It's like uh just being able to hang. | ||
| Just being able to fucking hang. | ||
| Is like people think about like, oh, what are all these competitive advantages? | ||
| How do you do this, that the other? | ||
| It's just like, can you fucking hang out? | ||
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Right. | |
| Can you sit down on a couch and can we bust balls? | ||
| Are we fun? | ||
| It's that easy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Are you fun? | ||
| Are you easy? | ||
| Are you a happy person? | ||
| Are you good to get along with? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes it so easy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like it's like simple things that you learn in high school. | ||
| Have you ever had experience where like there's a guy who's a fun hang and you haven't seen him on stage yet? | ||
| And you're like, I hope he's funny. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, there's some bad examples of that at the comedy store where I saw someone set. | ||
| I was like, oh no. | ||
| I can't be friends with you. | ||
| Like this is too Fitzsimmons and I were laughing about that once. | ||
| We saw this person go on stage and then afterwards we went into the back parking lot, and Greg's like, Well, I can't be friends with them anymore. | ||
| Greg cracks me the fuck up, dude. | ||
| Is Greg from Boston? | ||
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He's a bossy guy, right? | |
| We started out together like within a week of each other. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's all right. | ||
| I've been friends with that dude for like 35 fucking years. | ||
| Maybe more. | ||
| Yeah, Greg is. | ||
| Greg's still in LA, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
| Dude, Greg was there when I fucking I did some like I did. | ||
| It was like a halfway house show or something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I was just at the store and they and they just asked me, I was like, Do you want to pop on this one? | ||
| And it was like Greg's Joey, and I was like, Yeah, sure, I'll go do it. | ||
| And I did it, and I was doing these like um I did some down syndrome, but it was kind of like long, to be honest with you. | ||
| Oh, that was the down syndrome group. | ||
| I had no clue because they told me half house. | ||
| So I was like, oh, it's guys who are like drug ex alcoholics. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And I did like a long bit about it, and it what didn't go great. | ||
| Like everything was kind of good up until that moment, and then it kind of went south, and I was like, oh, that was weird. | ||
| And I guess I was saying Joey's like waiting there, or Greg, I figured which other way they're like, what the hell are you doing? | ||
| And I was like, I don't know. | ||
| Like I thought it was going well, and then it just kind of tanked. | ||
| He's like, Yeah, because it's all of them. | ||
| They're out there. | ||
| This is like a charity show or a benefit for it. | ||
| It's like you gotta let me know that. | ||
| Yeah, you should let people know that. | ||
| I I had a very similar thing happen. | ||
| I had a bit about how like there's certain words that are offensive, but wouldn't it be better if instead of like banning these words, if like the government issued like retard tags, like hunting tags, like you get five a year, you just gotta know when to use them. | ||
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You know, and these people were just This is fascism. | |
| Government quotas. | ||
| But I would be like, you do not want to go outside on December 31st with all the retard tags are going because everybody's got three extra retard tags they gotta use. | ||
| We gotta use them. | ||
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Can't let these things go to ways. | |
| They don't roll over. | ||
| But I did it there, and people are like, oh I was like, what? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What's wrong? | ||
| And then afterwards they told me, I was like, how about a heads up? | ||
| Oh wait, you did it also last how many of these benefits? | ||
| It takes a lot of money to fair enough. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's uh an education thing. | ||
| But uh I fucked up too, same thing. | ||
| Then I was like, oh, why didn't you tell me? | ||
| I felt something in the I felt it. | ||
| Bro, I felt it. | ||
| It was like it just went south. | ||
| And the look was like, does he not know? | ||
| I think they thought that I didn't I don't think they thought I was being edgy. | ||
| They thought you didn't know. | ||
| They were like, oh, he doesn't know. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And so they're like, they have a sour, like, oh no, he doesn't know. | ||
| It's like if somebody was talking to someone in the crowd before and everybody knows about that person, and then you're doing something completely unrelated, and they're like, Oh yeah. | ||
| He doesn't know that like she just lost her husband. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm just doing my five-minute widow bit. | ||
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Oh yeah, but that's the fun stuff. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what that's what Charlamagne loves. | ||
| He's just so he's like at his core, he's like a real like comedian at his core. | ||
| Like to the point like he he'll love bombing, like box watching people bomb, he like really likes that. | ||
| He think it's I think it's like a full emotion to him. | ||
| And uh so at the end of the the show in Read, we brought Alex Media who's on the show, and he had to do one joke in front of everybody, and like the joke is pretty good. | ||
| Alex is a black dude, and he's like, you know, it's cool to be here, you know. | ||
| I'll be honest, like I see these outfits, and uh it's the only time I'm surrounded by guys in uh in white sheets that I don't feel like they're gonna kill me, or something like that. | ||
| Like some little cutesy joke, and then uh Charlamagne goes, Nah, bro, like they're treating you like the autistic kid that gets it going in the fourth quarter. | ||
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The ball boy for the That joke wasn't it, bro. | |
| He's like uh uh uh they think that you have autism and they're giving you a shot at the end of the season. | ||
| Uh that's funny. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| Yeah, he's a funny dude. | ||
| There's a lot of funny people that don't get into comedy. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I've known quite a few that are like, man, you're really a comedian, and you never really got after it. | ||
| You know, there's a bunch of people like that. | ||
| I used to work for a guy who was a private investigator, yeah, was the funniest fucking dude I had ever been around in my life. | ||
| Yeah, and I was trying to be a comedian at the time. | ||
| I was an open micer, I was 21. | ||
| Yeah, and uh his name was Dick Dolan. | ||
| Dave Dolan, rather. | ||
| He called he'd call himself Dynamite Dickless Dave Dolan. | ||
| That was his name. | ||
| He's a di whenever I have a mess, I have a phone that I kept. | ||
| It's uh an iPhone like 10 or some shit like that. | ||
| And I kept that phone just because I have a voicemail on there from him before he died. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He's like, Joe Rogan, it's Dynamite Dickless Dave Dolan. | ||
| How you doing, buddy? | ||
| And like he was just a funny fucking dude. | ||
| He was hilarious. | ||
| And I would uh we would catch mostly people that were uh doing insurance fraud. | ||
| Oh, as a he was a private investigator, and I I worked for him. | ||
| And the way I worked as a PI? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Um I was uh looking for a job and uh different things to do to make money while I was doing stand-up. | ||
| Yeah, and uh he had this ad for it was uh private investigator investigators assistant. | ||
| I was like, ooh, that sounds exciting. | ||
| Really, what it was is he lost his license drunk driving, and he needed someone to drive his car around because he still had to work. | ||
| And so I met him and he was fri or his cousin was Bill Downs, who owned the comedy connection. | ||
| So he was related, like we didn't Rhode Island? | ||
| We hit it, no, it was in Boston at the time. | ||
| Oh and then it eventually went to Fanny Hall, and then now it's the Wilbur Theater. | ||
| But that was Bill Bloom and Wright eventually bought it from them. | ||
| But Bill Bill Downs and Paul Barkley were the original owners of the comedy connection. | ||
| And so I I and I was like, How are you not a comedian? | ||
| Like you're the funniest fucking guy I know. | ||
| He was he's not interested. | ||
| He was just funny. | ||
| But he would like we would like catch people doing stuff. | ||
| Most of it is like insurance fraud, but we'd have to like wait for them in front of their house at like four o'clock in the morning for them to get up and have like a fake job. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Where they were like, pretending to be disabled, uh, I burned my back at work, but really they were roofing somewhere, and we would catch them. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And and so we would be just in the car, just me and him, and we would just talk at shit. | ||
| And he was I would be crying. | ||
| And I I remember I was dating this girl and I I went over her place afterwards. | ||
| I was like, this guy is so much funnier than me. | ||
| And he has no desire to be a comedian. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's like it's weird. | ||
| Like he's a a natural comic. | ||
| Just funny all the time. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, had this, I don't give a fuck, I'm never getting married. | ||
| You know, he like always cheated on his girlfriends, didn't care. | ||
| He let them know. | ||
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Like, I'm not changing. | |
| He acted like a drunk even when he was sober. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Even when he was sober, he was like, he kept that whole we're on a bender mentality. | ||
| He just was sober. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And rode that bitch right into the rocks, rode that fucking boat right into the shore. | ||
| God bless him. | ||
| And then died. | ||
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God bless him. | |
| Yeah, he he was a fun dude, man. | ||
| Like one of the f most fun people I've ever been friends with in my life. | ||
| Some of the most naturally funny people, I think, aren't comedians. | ||
| Yes, a lot. | ||
| In the hang. | ||
| And it's a different eye, like when you gotta do it on stage, there's different expectations and it changes thing. | ||
| But like just in the hang, yeah, they just they're almost like unaware they're funny. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're not even trying to make you laugh. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, it's just kind of, yeah, it's like an effortless to them. | ||
| And some of them, you know, that do try to do comedy like that never figure out how to translate it, which is really weird. | ||
| I think I think it's uh it's almost too easy for them in conversation, so they don't do the work to transition it to stage. | ||
| Or they have this idea of what they're supposed to be on stage, and it's very different than what they are when they're with their friends. | ||
| That's the first thing I tell like young comics that ask for advice. | ||
| I just go, How are you funniest around the people you're most comfortable with? | ||
| Like, are you telling stories? | ||
| Are you self-deprecating? | ||
| Are you kind of roasting? | ||
| Like the people you're most comfortable with, how are you funny? | ||
| And that I think is like the easiest way to access like your voice or whatever we call it, and then just add 10 years of trying to figure that out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like you're right. | ||
| Some people like try to put on a cadence of what they think a stand up will talk about. | ||
| And it's normal in the beginning, like you're just trying to figure the shit out. | ||
| You sound like a tell. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like in New York, everybody sound like a tell. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like when I was coming up, a tell was even the way that they would do act out sounds, it was all versions of a tell. | ||
| And like naturally, you're gonna gravitate to the best guy in what he's doing. | ||
| And I'm sure like in LA, everybody was trying to be Dane or something like that. | ||
| A bunch of guys are trying to be Chappelle, Chappelle, yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And it's like, yeah, that that makes sense. | ||
| Patrice would say that you're you're his babies. | ||
| That he's got a I got a bunch of babies out there. | ||
| Oh, but I mean I was a baby of Patrice for sure. | ||
| Like I remember seeing him just going like, oh my god, this is this is the highest form. | ||
| Joey Diaz was the best example of a guy who one day figured it out. | ||
| Joey Diaz was the funniest guy in the parking lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The funniest. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The funniest guy in the hang. | ||
| If you were in the back bar, he was the funniest. | ||
| He was holding court, everybody was dying, we're falling on the ground laughing. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| When he would get on stage, he would try to be a comedian. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He would try to like set up punchline, tell a joke, I got a little joke for you. | ||
| And then one day he gave up. | ||
| He gave up on being cast in movies. | ||
| He gave up on the dream of having a sitcom, and he got real fat. | ||
| Like when I first met Joey, he was built like a linebacker. | ||
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He was a tank. | |
| And he's fresh out of jail. | ||
| You know, it was a different joke. | ||
| Jail beef. | ||
| It was scary Joey. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And uh Scary Joey uh gave in to Fat Joey, and then uh Mitzi Shore started calling him Fat Baby, and that's all she would put him on as the on the the lineup. | ||
| It wouldn't be Joey Diaz, it would be Fat Baby. | ||
| She wanted to call him Fat Baby. | ||
| Oh, so he would lean into this. | ||
| She had this idea of changing his name to Fat Baby. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, she named people. | ||
| Right? | ||
|
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No, no. | |
| She named Carl Smith. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| She came up with that name. | ||
| That's not his real name. | ||
| No, it's not his real name. | ||
| His name is Ned. | ||
| It's like Ned Holeness or something like that. | ||
| She came up with the idea of him having that name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was part of the whole video of me like exposing him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was like, you're not even Mexican. | ||
| And the Mexicans in the crowd were like, what? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's because he's close. | ||
| Honduran. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Half German, half on Duran. | ||
| But whatever it is. | ||
| The thing is, Mitzi named him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so Mitzi would name people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And she wanted to name Joey, Fat Baby. | ||
| And so the old lineups, I got some old lineups from the comedy store, and one of them says Fat Baby. | ||
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I love it. | |
| I love it. | ||
| But when he got fat, dude, he when he started not giving a fuck. | ||
| And he would go on stage, all the s I mean, all of a sudden. | ||
| He went from not having good sets, you know, to kind of maybe it was a pretty good set to destroy. | ||
| Liberating. | ||
| Destroy. | ||
| He was free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He got free and he became the guy on stage that he was in the back. | ||
| It was also around the time where marijuana medical marijuana started like really popping off in LA. | ||
| So it Joey was on like 500 milligram Shiba Juice. | ||
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Just obliterate. | |
| Obliterated and dosing people on his podcast and ha ha full-on maniac and the absolute best guy to take on the road with you. | ||
| There was no one better. | ||
| You take him on the road with you, you guarantee you were having a party everywhere you go. | ||
| It's a party hanging out at the hotel afterwards. | ||
| It's a party. | ||
| Joey Diaz is there. | ||
| We're having fun. | ||
| And you know, and they've just figured out how to be that guy on stage, and then he became Joey Diaz. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But it was like everybody watched it happen, like, whoa. | ||
| I never seen anybody just figure it out like that. | ||
| Where like you went from being uh a four or a five to a ten immediately. | ||
| And to a ten where people are lining up in the back of the room going, What the fuck, man? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Did something happen like did something happen culturally where what he was doing was refreshing too? | ||
| Or do you really think he just changed? | ||
| He figured it out. | ||
| He just figured he just didn't, he stopped. | ||
| I stopped giving a fuck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I stopped giving a fuck of those fucking people. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I was worried about those people. | ||
| You gotta give me a job. | ||
| I wanna I want a job. | ||
| I was a fucking convict. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I gotta be careful. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and then all of a sudden he's like, these people ain't giving me shit. | ||
| Fuck these people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and that was like right around the time, ironically, that he did the longest yard. | ||
| So he got mo started getting movies, started getting all kinds of things. | ||
| Because he didn't give a fuck anymore. | ||
| And all of a sudden he was just so funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That it was undeniable. | ||
| And then when you're undeniable, all those opportunities pop up. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| It's like I think there's I sometimes I heard comics talk about like the importance of networking. | ||
| And I'm like, it's so easy to network when you're funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like once you're funny, people want to talk to you. | ||
| Like once they admire what you're doing on that stage, they want to hang out. | ||
| The people that are not funny, now you gotta fucking hang out every single second and network and shit. | ||
| But the worst is the networking people that aren't funny that are always trying to get work. | ||
| And you're like, hey, if I wanted to give you work, I would ask. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like you're you're doing the wrong kind of work. | ||
| You're doing the network work and not doing the why am I not funny enough work. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What's missing? | ||
| Why why do I not have an audience? | ||
| Like why why do people not want to go see me again? | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| They will see you again if you give them a good show. | ||
| If you give them a good show. | ||
| But if you don't, it's like there's a lot of comedy out there, kids. | ||
| There is a lot of comedy out there. | ||
| A lot of comedy out there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| That's why, like I I'm like kind of strict on you just gotta give them something new every time you go in. | ||
| Like I feel strongly about it because it's like if they see the same thing twice. | ||
| And I'm talking about when I'm going out on a new yeah, to a new market. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A market that you've been to. | ||
| Yeah, it's very important. | ||
| It's expensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, should it it's it's not cheap to go out to a show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, so if they're getting a babysitter, they're doing the whole thing, and then they see the thing they saw before, it's like maybe they have a good time, but there's a little part of them they feel maybe taken advantage of in some way. | ||
| Well, some of them they'll want to see bits again. | ||
| Like that's like the hot pockets thing with Gaff again. | ||
| But I feel like they want to see that. | ||
| And a bunch of other stuff. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like if you're giving them 45 of just new heat that they haven't heard before, and then at the end You tell the machine story. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you get to live in the nostalgia of it. | ||
| You get to take your friend that you told this story to, or this joke, it's so funny. | ||
| I hope he does it. | ||
| And then you get to watch them experience it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like sharing a clip with them on Instagram and just watching them laugh. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you get to experience that. | ||
| But like the whole hour, nah. | ||
| You gotta have something new. | ||
| Like we gotta we gotta get at least for me. | ||
| I'm like, that is that's why I take time off. | ||
| I'm like, I'm gonna do that. | ||
| Well, that's the difference between comedy and music, right? | ||
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That's why. | |
| Music, I don't want your new shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Stop with the new songs, Rolling Stones. | ||
| Imagine Oasis is doing a whole new album. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like you could go, here's a new one, but I need to hear the hits. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that, yeah, music just has so much more like such a great shelf life. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| It's just if a song is high. | ||
| Yeah, such a self-life, they have cover bands. | ||
| And we want to watch them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I remember Anytime I uh in LA there was a cover band for uh what the fuck was it? | ||
| It was some eighties cover band. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They were just playing like all these like fun little eighties hits. | ||
| And it was a thing that it would like sell out. | ||
| Like people would go to one of these venues and they go and they enjoy and they dress up in stupid eighties shit. | ||
| It became almost like uh what is that music? | ||
| Uh what is that um that movie that people would go see in the East Village uh Rocky Horror picture show. | ||
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Remember that? | |
| Like you're almost like part of the performance in a way. | ||
| Like you're leaning into this this uh this this costumization of what's happening. | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| It's a different art form, obviously. | ||
| But that's the beautiful thing. | ||
| It's like some something could go down today, you know, and then you can go on stage with it tonight. | ||
| And everybody's like, oh shit. | ||
| That's I actually I almost like don't like it when there's nothing to talk about initially. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like I would rather like the thing. | ||
| A new thing. | ||
| We talked about it for at least a minute, and then we're on the same page. | ||
| Because the first minute of comic comedy, like it is an odd thing. | ||
| I'm on a stage, you're all sitting, yeah. | ||
| I'm gonna talk as if we're having a conversation, but you're not really allowed to talk. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A minute in, we forget that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, it's like you're watching Top Gun or something, and you're like, I'm real. | ||
| This is real, and I'm in the movie. | ||
| But that first minute, but what's great is when there is some sort of controversy or some big news story, and like everybody's thinking about it, and they're going, is he gonna talk about it? | ||
| Like, I'm sure anytime you went through something, and the first time you hit the stage, you can feel them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like waiting for you to address it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's to me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's the best. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| Well, that was Tony after you know his cancellation. | ||
| Like he he went in hot and he can't his bits tightened up too, because he knew couldn't have any fat in him. | ||
| Because now people are waiting for you. | ||
| Yeah, they want you to fall on your face. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that's a good I think that's good to have. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You shouldn't get comfy. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's real good. | ||
| You need some haters. | ||
| Yeah, it's motivation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm gonna make this show so sharp that you gonna have to make you're gonna have to say something else. | ||
| Or not, or you know, look stupid. | ||
| Yeah, but they're never gonna not say something, but they'll be like, oh, but it's this, but it's that. | ||
| But it's like you're not gonna talk about the thing that we all care about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| There's one thing we all care about, bro. | ||
| Paddle. | ||
| You're so addicted. | ||
| I saw your bag. | ||
| I was like, what's in the bag? | ||
| I'm going after I'm gonna play with your boy after this. | ||
| Who are you playing with? | ||
| Woody Harrelson is like big into it. | ||
| Oh yeah, he is. | ||
| So we're gonna go play. | ||
| I think he's like, you know, building a club out here. | ||
| What's he building? | ||
| A paddle club? | ||
| Yeah, I think where he's invested in one of the clubs. | ||
| It's going out here. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| People get upset. | ||
| It's like golf in that way. | ||
| Like people just get obsessed with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta pick the things that you get obsessed with, though. | ||
| You can't have too many of those things. | ||
| I know, because our wives won't allow it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, life is just you don't have so much time. | ||
| Unfortunately, my things take a lot of time. | ||
| Like pool one takes a lot of time. | ||
| Being in the forest. | ||
| Yeah, it takes a lot of time. | ||
| It takes a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love I love when I text you like out of the blue, and I just get a picture of you in like a foxhole. | ||
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Just be like this fucking sweaty grainy picture. | |
| I say you have picture of me hunting pigs. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I was in a ground blind. | ||
|
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I'm in a ground blind right now. | |
| Yeah, and you're still talking shit. | ||
| Yeah, I had cell phone service. | ||
| Talking shit while I was waiting for pigs to come out. | ||
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Where was it? | |
| That was in Texas. | ||
| It was in Texas. | ||
| Yeah, that was out here, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You need to get rid of them, right? | ||
| Aren't they like uh Oh yeah, they're a real problem. | ||
| Um I got a lease where me and a bunch of buddies have a a lease on this big piece of uh hunting land. | ||
| Yeah, and we go out there and you know, it's you literally have to kill pigs, and you turn them into sausage and I give it to my boys. | ||
| I bring it down to the mothership. | ||
| I I brought them coolers of elk beat the other night. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And everybody's like, grab an elk sausage, bring it home, send it pictures of them cooking it. | ||
| That clip of you and and Burr when you gave Bird the elk meat. | ||
| I think it was on like a kill Tony at the store or something. | ||
| Does it make you aggressive? | ||
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And then Burr was like, no. | |
| No, Joe. | ||
| Fucking maniac. | ||
| But you were so hyped for him to be like, yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Tony said it did. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I gave him some elk meat. | ||
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Yeah, and then you went on stage at the fucking Trump rally. | |
| No, it was the other night. | ||
| The other night I gave him some, and he's like, dude, I ate it. | ||
| I got all this energy. | ||
| I just felt it. | ||
| It's like it's like a wild. | ||
| I go, Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Like you're eating the essence of a wild forest horse. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A forest horse that has swords growing out of its head. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's got spears growing out of its fucking head. | ||
| Screaming in the woods. | ||
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That was the other thing That was the other thing. | |
| When you did our pot, there was like a compilation of the animal sounds you make, which is the funniest fucking clip I've ever seen. | ||
| Like you were getting because we got high. | ||
| You came in hot. | ||
| Like you had the mushrooms rolling, we were smoking weed, and then you just start talking about bears, and all of us are just like open mouthed, these fucking claws are calling. | ||
| The wild world is like you should be in touch with that. | ||
| Everybody should be in touch with that. | ||
| People have a ridiculous idea what the wild world is. | ||
| A buddy of mine sent me a video that his buddy took of he's in Colorado and he's driving down the street. | ||
| I'll send it to you, Jamie. | ||
| He's in Colorado driving down the street, and he sees a fucking mountain lion take out a deer right on the side of the fucking highway. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm gonna send this to you, Jamie, right now. | ||
| This is like I'm domesticated. | ||
| Any of these people that like mountain lions are important, they're a part of the ecosystem. | ||
| Like these are wild monsters that live in the Do you see the one that I got in the lobby? | ||
| Do you see the mountain lion in the lobby? | ||
| The big stuffed mountain line. | ||
| But the one you've always had. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The mountain lion is new. | ||
| The actual mountain lion. | ||
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I didn't see it. | |
| My friend Adam Green Tree shot it in Colorado. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| And it was killing cows, like slaughtering cows on this uh this ranch in in Colorado. | ||
| Like this look at this. | ||
| This is the side of give me some volume on this. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Look at this deer. | ||
| This mountain lion's got it by the neck. | ||
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Oh man. | |
| Oh man. | ||
| And he's trying to drag his wave free. | ||
| Oh he got out. | ||
| And then this dude helped him with the horn. | ||
| Every now and then the good guys win. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| But that's on the side of the road in Colorado. | ||
| Like that could be a hiker. | ||
| One hundred percent. | ||
| One hundred percent that could be a hiker. | ||
| It's a little lady, some small lady, some hundred pound lady that's walking around, you know. | ||
| Are they the good guys though? | ||
| Uh I've thought about that. | ||
| The mountain lions? | ||
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No. | |
| The deer. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like the prey. | ||
| Yeah, but but it's like they've evolved to escape these guys, and that's why they're still around. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So they have a competitive advantage over the predators, or else they just wouldn't exist. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I guess I guess what I'm trying to say is like they don't have an advantage. | ||
| They're just hard to kill. | ||
| Okay, they're hard to kill, but they've evolved to be hard to kill. | ||
| But they get killed every day. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But like a lot of times they're going for the week, or they're going for the wounded or going for the babies, because if you go for like the big dogs, it's gonna be a more difficult, you're gonna expend more energy to kill them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I look at the predators and I'm like, they can't eat grass. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like they would love to eat grass. | ||
| Grass is an easier life. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| Unfortunately, they have to go attack these animals that have the swords coming out of their head. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there is a version where I look at it, I'm like, who's really burdened here? | ||
| Yeah, but the deer don't have the swords coming out of their head to fight off mountain lions. | ||
| It's just uh they don't use them for mountain lions. | ||
| They use them to fight each other. | ||
| Just to fuck females, it's just yeah, it's just uh dominance thing so they could show the females that they're the dominant males. | ||
| They s they have the biggest racks and they smash racks with other deer. | ||
| But they don't use it at all as defense against predators? | ||
| No, not really. | ||
| I mean, that's stupid. | ||
| They're not smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're wary, but they're not intelligent. | ||
| They're not like clever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, mountain lions are clever. | ||
|
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Wolves are really wolves, man. | |
| Wolves are really clever. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| They they sort of have some sort of psychic communication with each other. | ||
| Oh, you you think that they coordinate and they don't know exactly how they do it, but they figure out traps while like one wolf will come in and they'll have other wolves flank the animals, so the animals start to scatter and the wolves come in from the sides and get them. | ||
| Coyotes do the same thing. | ||
| And they'll hunt humans too, right? | ||
| They used to. | ||
| They used to a lot. | ||
| I mean, World War One, they actually had a ceasefire between the Russians and the Germans because the wolves are killing so many people. | ||
| They decided we have to stop and kill wolves. | ||
| So they came together, took out the wolves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they just started killing. | ||
| Yeah, because you gotta realize they're in trench warfare, right? | ||
| So people get shot and they're they're bleeding and the wolves smell the blood. | ||
| So the wolves were they would hear guys getting torn apart in the middle of the night by wolves. | ||
| The wolves had made it in their way into the foxholes and were just ripping guys apart. | ||
| Ah imagine you're you're lying in a trench and you hear that like a hundred yards away, a guy getting eaten alive by wolves. | ||
| How much do you think people knew about war during World War One? | ||
| Very little. | ||
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Right? | |
| I mean they knew war existed. | ||
| But they didn't have a few. | ||
| There's no footage. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Right? | ||
| There's no photographs. | ||
| There's there's just a concept. | ||
| There's just a lot of things. | ||
| And they're just being fed like propaganda constantly from you know their own countries. | ||
| I just I like wonder what happens when all those guys come home and they're clearly traumatized. | ||
| But everybody else has just been consuming the propaganda about just, oh, look what these doing and they're fighting for us, and everything is amazing, and we're winning the war, and all this positivity that's probably emanating through news. | ||
| And then these guys come home and they start sharing like the actual stories. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, ugh. | ||
| Well, they just come back shell shocked. | ||
| Like you ever see Peaky Blinders? | ||
| That show? | ||
| Yeah, I watched a couple season when I think uh Cormac McCarthy was directing. | ||
| No, no, am I getting that name right? | ||
| I might be messing with it. | ||
| Cormac McCarthy's the author, right? | ||
| Oh no, so I'm thinking of a different guy. | ||
| Yeah, did he do Angela's Ashes? | ||
| Well, Cormac McCarthy, there's a the craziest um Who's the guy who directed the craziest uh headline of all time is connected to Cormac McCarthy? | ||
| I'm gonna send Jamie this. | ||
| Look at this headline. | ||
| This is an article from The Atlantic. | ||
| This might be literally the craziest headline that anyone has ever put in an article before. | ||
| You don't have to pull it up. | ||
| It's just it's just a headline of an article. | ||
| Cormac McCarthy's ex-wife pulled a gun out of her vagina during an argument about aliens. | ||
| Little 38. | ||
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Yeah, we didn't know. | |
| I didn't know what he said about aliens. | ||
| It was probably a little Derringer, one of them little two shot little tiny pistols you could stick in your cooter. | ||
| To have a gun in your pussy is crazy. | ||
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What? | |
| They were having an argument about aliens. | ||
| She's like, I'm not here anymore. | ||
| Why is it enough, motherfucker? | ||
| But why was it in there? | ||
| Because they're drunk as fuck. | ||
| They're probably having a good time. | ||
| Most writers, I think, like especially old timey writers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, Hemingway was a big drunk. | ||
| I think those people part like Hunter S. Thompson, craziest of all. | ||
| I think those people party. | ||
| Stephen King when he was in his prime, cocaine, alcohol, all those people that wrote great shit, they were all out of their fucking head. | ||
| So crazier than two, though. | ||
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She went exchange. | |
| McCarthy went into her bedroom and emerged wearing lingerie. | ||
| Her boyfriend probably thought, oh great, reconciliation, sex time. | ||
| Sorry for being skeptical of your out-of-body experience, hun, until McCarthy pulled a Swithin Wesson out of her vagina and proceeded to have intercourse with the gun. | ||
| I don't know why intercourse. | ||
| Uh asking her boyfriend, who's crazy, you or me. | ||
| So she's fucking herself with the gun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Exercise. | ||
| My kind of gal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| Who's crazy, you or me? | ||
| Well, you got a gun in your pussy. | ||
| Um, so she was she was telling him about having some sort of an alien abduction experience, and he didn't want to believe he thought she was crazy. | ||
| So she's like, I'll show you. | ||
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Yeah, you win. | |
| You win. | ||
| I think you win. | ||
| You got abducted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not arguing. | ||
| Bro, she might have. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She might have. | ||
| I mean, imagine you get abducted by aliens and you have to tell people, and you're like a person who wants to be taken seriously in all their walks of life, and you have to tell them that they drain your sperm on a spaceship and showed you hybrids. | ||
| That's why I I kind of I like believe the Lazar dude, like when we went to dinner, yeah. | ||
| He was he was like shell shocked a little bit. | ||
| Like he was like reluctant. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's why I brought you. | ||
| I was like, oh come come sit with me. | ||
| Because this is the first time I'm hang hanging with this guy. | ||
| Like, I think you and me together would be a fun combination to sit down and talk to Bob Lazar. | ||
| And it was just like he it was almost like he didn't want to share it in a lot of ways. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And imagine people think you're a kook for 40 years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For 40 years, people have been thinking you're out of your fucking mind. | ||
| You're a liar, you make Things up and then over time all of a sudden footage starts emerging in like 2017 of these crafts doing exactly what you described, moving in a way that's exactly like what you were saying. | ||
| And then there starts getting these whistleblowers, these David Grushes and Lou Elizondo say we have a crash retrieval program. | ||
| We've had it for a long time. | ||
| The problem is these defense contractors have access to this stuff, they lied to Congress, there's misappropriation of funds. | ||
| There's a lot attached to this, and that's why they're not releasing it. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Which is n if that's true. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| That's why I always say when people ask me, they're like, I would just be like, I believe he believes it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't say what it is, obviously. | ||
| I'm not there, I don't know anything. | ||
| But like I don't think he was uh what are they called? | ||
| Like a charlatan or whatever that word is. | ||
| Like I don't think he's making this up for attention. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He believes what he saw. | ||
| Something happened. | ||
| He saw something. | ||
| And he was a legitimate propulsions expert, and he he really did work for Los Alamos Labs, which is doing all sorts of wild shit. | ||
| And then he really did work for Area S4. | ||
| Like somehow or another, he was shipped over there to Area 51, site four, and he says they have UFOs. | ||
| He said they have like seven of them. | ||
| Good. | ||
| He said one of them is really old. | ||
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He said they said it was a part of an archaeological dig. | |
| Here's what's crazy about that. | ||
| I have this guy, Ben Van Kirkwick. | ||
| He um has that YouTube page called uh Uncharted X, and he's um Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, great guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They have found through the use of uh uh ground penetrating radar, they found these labyrinths in Egypt that are so fucking huge and under underground, like deep underground, but these massive like corridors that lead into these atriums, like m and they found a forty meter long metallic object that's under the ground in Egypt. | ||
| Forty meters long, metallic, some unknown metal that's under the ground and it doesn't uh whatever it is, they know it's metallic, it doesn't have any sort of signature that is reminiscent of any other metal that we know about. | ||
| It was a specific it was a specific historical site, I think that was found in each. | ||
| Herodotus talked about it. | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| Um I think it's called the Labyrinths. | ||
| I think that's how it's referred. | ||
| But yeah, this is not like uh like a fragment of people's imagination, like this is something historically documented throughout time for thousands of years. | ||
| And that Herodotus talked about it being greater than the pyramids of Giza underground. | ||
| And since so in 1960, um Ben was telling us in the sixties they uh built a dam and you know to help the farmers in the the area, and unfortunately it raised the water table. | ||
| Oh, and that's fucked it up and it flooded these labyrinths because otherwise they would have just been able to dig down into it and enter in and now it's all filled with water. | ||
| Is it filled with water or sediment because of the expansion of the water? | ||
| It's both, and uh there's sediment, of course, that comes with the water, but there's water, but then below the water table is where the labyrinth. | ||
| So he's saying there might be a way that they could tunnel from the side past where the water comes in, but they don't want to admit that it's real. | ||
| Like all these Egyptologists are kind of like down about it. | ||
| Ozahi Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if that went the way that he thought it was gonna go. | ||
| It went the way I thought it was gonna go. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Gavin, pay attention. | ||
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It's not gonna go as you see it going. | |
| I'm really high on California. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I like how he's like trying to tweet as Trump. | ||
| Like you don't even have your own style. | ||
| You're mocking his style to try to tweet. | ||
| Trump is Trump is kinder than me, bro. | ||
| He's also making things up like California derangement syndrome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's like these are facts. | ||
| The people are frustrated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People from out there, and they have the right to be frustrated. | ||
| Don't gaslight your own people. | ||
| I think that's up. | ||
| I think that's upsetting. | ||
| Like if I was from there and I was upset with what was going on and I complained about it, and the guy who's in charge says, Oh, you're just deranged. | ||
| Yeah, listen, you don't see a similar uprising against Florida. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| Florida boomed economically during COVID. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, a lot of people moved there. | ||
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Why? | |
| Because they had completely different regulations and they allowed people to be free. | ||
| And now DeSantis is even talking about removing property tax. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Which is a game changer. | ||
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Can they afford it though? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't Understand any of it. | ||
| Yeah, me neither. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| But like that is tricky though. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| The idea that like you buy a home and then you continually have to pay the government to own your own home. | ||
| How about even worse? | ||
| What if you bought a home a long time ago and you paid $20,000 for it in like 1940? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And now all of a sudden it's worth two million. | ||
| And you have to pay for the city. | ||
| So you have taxes on two million. | ||
| Oh, it's not based on different states have different rules. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But in some states you have to pay tax on the amount of money your house is worth. | ||
| Is it the justification that like this is what maintains the streets and this is what makes the community? | ||
| Well, the justification is like, say if you buy a two million dollar home, you should be contributing with your property taxes to schools and all sorts of other things, which totally makes sense. | ||
| But the problem is, like, if you're eighty years old and you bought this house for $20,000 and you're on social security, and now all of a sudden you owe money on something you already bought to a gruv a government that's a terrible job of using your money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Terrible job. | ||
| Documented, terrible job of spending your money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I just I don't know why he's poking the I don't know why he's poking, man. | ||
| I don't know why he's poking. | ||
| Also, like, didn't Trump's kid pipe his wife or whatever? | ||
| His ex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well. | ||
| I would have tweeted that. | ||
| I'm more petty than these motherfuckers. | ||
| You're not gonna talk shit about me and my voice and my kid piped your wife. | ||
| That's coming out immediately. | ||
| Why don't you pull my kid's dick out of your wife? | ||
| That's my immediate tweet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I think it's interesting. | ||
| I think there's a pack. | ||
| I've never thought about it. | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Uh it's just it's just interesting. | ||
| It's just yeah, I think. | ||
| You ran short of words, son, for a guy who's really good at talking. | ||
| They brought up APAC, you clammed up right there. | ||
| I just I never thought about it. | ||
| Never thought about JPEG, but not APA. | ||
| Like J thought about it. | ||
| Never thought about it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Now you can think. | ||
| Meanwhile, you just passed some sort of a the anti-Semitism thing. | ||
| Oh, there's another. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was the anti-Semitism thing that they just uh pushed through? | ||
| No. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Was it the one about the schools that they then rebuked it? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| It was just something someone was connecting it to. | ||
| This is why Gav it was a Twitter thing that I was reading. | ||
| Someone was saying, Oh, this is why Gavin Newsom didn't want to say anything when they were talking about APAC. | ||
| He wants it bad. | ||
| Like you can tell he wants it bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But uh it's almost like having less time in government is beneficial to becoming president. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's why I think if the Democrats have somebody that's really got a shot, it's that Taller Rico guy. | ||
| James Talarico had him on my podcast. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I think he's legitimate. | ||
| I think he's a real deal. | ||
| Like what he what he says he is is what he is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Very religious person who has a really good point. | ||
| When he talks about Texas, like there's these very, very wealthy billionaires that are trying to turn the state into theocracy, and they want to uh that's why they got the Ten Commandments pushed into every school, all the public schools here. | ||
| He's like, they want to defund public schools and fund religious schools, and he's like, these people are dangerous. | ||
| This idea is dangerous. | ||
| And like the far right is just as dangerous as the far left. | ||
| And if you're on the right and you don't recognize this kind of this kind of shit is and he this is a really religious guy. | ||
| And that's where you trust it even more. | ||
| Someone actually really believes in it that's pushing back and goes this is against like the values of our country. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He might agree with all those things that they're pushing, but he's like, I don't think it's to be like governmently enforced in schools. | ||
| He's very well versed in the Bible and is literally in seminary right now. | ||
| Like this is a guy that's very religious, like legitimately religious and has been his whole life. | ||
| But that's the thing, you need to shake shit up, and you especially need to shake shit up with your own party. | ||
| I mean, that's what Trump did with Republicans. | ||
| That's what any candidate that ends up winning does is you have to be like the candidate of rebellion to a certain extent. | ||
| Like you've even seen what's happened in New York right now. | ||
| Like you could hate every policy that Mom Donnie has, but you can't deny that he's at least saying things that tap into the concerns and frustrations of New Yorkers. | ||
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Right. | |
| You left those people out of the conversation. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And now the chickens have come home to roost. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| So it's like I will not at all I'll I won't at all criticize him for trying to fix problems that people have when the other guys there are just saying we're not gonna do anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it was a lot of times the frustrations with the the last election. | ||
| It's just like people were frustrated with Biden. | ||
| They just didn't think that he was all there. | ||
| They didn't know who was running the country, and they didn't like what was happening. | ||
| And then she came in and she wouldn't separate herself at all. | ||
| So that's on you. | ||
| Like you have to give people you have to give people hope, and oftentimes hope is being the candidate of rebellion, and that usually is what ends up winning. | ||
| Do you see the people ragging on her conversation with Kara Swisher? | ||
| She was on stage with Karis Wisher, and she even Karis Wish was kind of like ragging on her a little bit. | ||
| She was like, uh, you know, uh a lot of some people said that I was the most qualified person to ever run for president. | ||
| Like, who said that? | ||
| And Kara's like, some people said that, like, who said that? | ||
| You were literally running against a guy who was already president. | ||
| So if you're if you're going, if you're going based on your resume, you're not more qualified than Biden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Biden was the vice president of the United States for eight years. | ||
| Best thing for the Republican Party right now is her book tour. | ||
| Because every time she talks on camera, there's a reminder as to why she lost. | ||
| When she went away for a while, I think you could be like, you could pretend about what she was and what she stood for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the second she does an interview and she's like, yeah, I couldn't have uh Pete be my uh vice president. | ||
| He's a gay. | ||
| And then Rachel Mallow is like, well, what do you mean? | ||
| She's like, no, I'm not exactly saying, but he likes guys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're like, what is going on right now? | ||
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Right. | |
| It's too risky. | ||
| It's too risky. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How dare you say Merry Christmas? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How dare you? | ||
| She's it's like the same thing, man. | ||
| Do you see your Columbus Day message to America? | ||
| What was the Columbus? | ||
| Oh God. | ||
| It was like, don't forget the horrors that the Europeans did to the Okay. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Did he even get here? | ||
| Scolding. | ||
| Did he get here or not? | ||
| Columbus? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| Did not get here. | ||
| No. | ||
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So take that up with the Dominican Republic or whatever. | |
| Wherever he landed. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's like. | ||
| But it wasn't Columbus necessarily. | ||
| I mean, the idea is I think it's Indigenous People's Day. | ||
| I think it stopped being Columbus Day after a while. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they call it Indigenous People's Day. | ||
| Which makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, shout out to them. | ||
| I think it's funny when governments do these things with like uh enforced care. | ||
| Like anytime I'm performing in Canada, like if it's on like an indigenous area, they make me do like uh a land acknowledgement. | ||
| And I remember the first time they told me that I was like, You want me to do what? | ||
| And they're like, yeah, we want you to let them know that this used to be native land. | ||
| And I'm like, I remember telling it to like the chief of the tribe, and I'm like, brother, that kind of seems like I'm bragging. | ||
| Like I'm going up there and be like, yo, this used to be yours, but the boys came in. | ||
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Got y'all the fuck out of here. | |
| Like, you really want me to go and remind everybody what happened before the comedy show? | ||
| You know what my favorite part about that is? | ||
| It's a land acknowledgement, but also saying we're not giving it back. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| We stole it, but it's ours now. | ||
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So what do we do? | |
| Who are we doing this for? | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| We're gonna acknowledge the fact that we're on stolen land. | ||
| But the thing, the thing is, these people that go along with that are also the same people that want no borders, and uh no one's illegal being anywhere. | ||
| Like Christopher Columbus is the only immigrant they hate. | ||
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Yo, that was there was like that's like you know, no one's illegal. | |
| Hey, listen, but yeah, these people shouldn't have been here. | ||
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We let a Spanish-speaking guy into America once. | |
| Went great. | ||
| Can't see any problem with that ever. | ||
| And did the Mayan Empire? | ||
| They gave him all fucking diseases. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| No, it's hilarious. | ||
| So think about what they did, what Cortez did to Mexico. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Like, my God. | ||
| I know, it's nuts. | ||
| Yeah, fucked up shit. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, yeah, human beings did that, but also, yeah, bad. | ||
| The diseases, the slaughter. | ||
| Also, what they did to each other was horrible. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, human beings do fucked up shit. | ||
| Yeah, and always. | ||
| We're here now. | ||
| What are we gonna do now? | ||
| That's my worry. | ||
| So what are we gonna do now? | ||
| It's like it's like you go into the doctor, you got lung cancer, and the doctor's like, let's talk about all them cigarettes you were smoking. | ||
| And it's like, why don't we talk about all that chemo you're gonna give me? | ||
| Like, tell me what we're gonna do now to get rid of this shit. | ||
| Right, don't tell me about what I did. | ||
| I know what I did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, brother. | ||
| Go play some fucking paddle. | ||
| This is fun. | ||
| You gotta come. | ||
| This is actually. | ||
| I gotta get you on a paddle call. | ||
| I can't today. | ||
| I got too much shit to do. | ||
| All right, fine. | ||
| One of these days I'm getting it. | ||
| One of these days. | ||
| I'll go out there with you. | ||
| Anyway, I love you, Doug. | ||
| I love you too, brother. | ||
| Always good to hang. | ||
| Always great to hang. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| All right, bye everybody. |
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