Oct. 15, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. | ||
| I'm going to say I was at... | ||
| I was at Terran Tactical. | ||
| And I was shooting, and I I and Logan Paul was there, and I just met him. | ||
| And uh I hit a dove. | ||
| No. | ||
| I grazed a dove somehow, right? | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| And the dove is dying right. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I so I'm Logan and I come up and I grab the dove and I'm gonna wring its neck so it doesn't suffer. | ||
| And Logan, Logan goes, wait, hold. | ||
| Let me just see it. | ||
| And he takes it in his hands. | ||
| And and and instead of me wringing its neck because I don't want it to suffer. | ||
| I swear to God, it was all you know you're the wing is like this. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| His his Jesus energy, his what his whatever his energy is, he held it in both hands. | ||
| I swear to God, the thing kind of just went just kind of put its wing back in and just fucking flew out of his hands. | ||
| And I was like, all right. | ||
| Well, you were gonna kill it. | ||
| I was gonna kill it. | ||
| I was like, all right. | ||
| They are delicious. | ||
| Maybe that's Logan's celebrity power stuff. | ||
| You know that it's like the most hunted bird in North America? | ||
| Listen, pigeons delicious. | ||
| And I was just hunting them in London, sir. | ||
| On the outskirts of London, I just got in the city. | ||
| I don't think you're allowed to do that. | ||
| Um this is why this is why I can't do anything. | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| But what's my I I don't know how to do this. | ||
| Help me. | ||
| It's like a door. | ||
| You open the like that. | ||
| I know it's weird. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, but you know, I should be all different. | ||
| I get pissed when I can't figure out little shit like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a child seat. | ||
| I'm like, okay. | ||
| And I'll go, I look at my wife, I go, you you do it. | ||
| And I just throw my hands up. | ||
| What is it about men that we don't read directions? | ||
| I never read directions. | ||
| I open the box, like, look at this fucking bullshit, put that aside. | ||
| I don't need to I'll figure this out. | ||
| My my wife, remember one time when my kid was really young, I had to put together a child's bed, and I'm like, I can do it, and I go to put the bed together and and uh well I couldn't. | ||
| I I couldn't because uh there were directions, and I was like, I the screws, you know, they number the screws. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I'm sitting there like this, and then I I'm making noises, I'm going, uh my wife's like, what's wrong with it? | ||
| I'm like, stay out of the room! | ||
| Apparently she gave me the room, get out of the room, I got this. | ||
| You should do hard cardio before you put together any child's. | ||
| Dude, no, this is what I did. | ||
| I called I called my buddy and I go, I'll give you 300 to come over here right now, put this bed together. | ||
| He he builds houses, he comes over, he goes, It's four slats in a frame. | ||
| What kind of a moron? | ||
| Yeah, he couldn't believe it. | ||
| I was like, shut up. | ||
| That's different though. | ||
| That's a guy who's used to using his hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not a delicate man like yourself. | ||
| That's correct, sir. | ||
| I have soft, I have soft hands. | ||
| I have I'm by the way, fresh. | ||
| If I have some marks on my face, I'm fresh, fresh from the uh from the mat of doing takedowns at 58. | ||
| That's a good job. | ||
| Ah, it's a great one. | ||
| How's your back? | ||
| You alright? | ||
| You know what, dude? | ||
| My back is actually good because I I've mastered the art of warming up. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| That's smart. | ||
| I'm pedantic about it. | ||
| Like they make fun of me and I'm like, fuck off. | ||
| Yeah, you should. | ||
| I do my bird dogs, my fire hydrants. | ||
| You know Muhammad Ali used to work out for uh we used to warm up rather for an hour before he worked out. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah, I watched Manny Pack. | ||
| That's how you stay from getting injured. | ||
| I did this thing with uh Tosh, Daniel Tosh and I um at the at uh wildcard gym where Tosh was getting punched by Manny, and I was like, help it was like some silly sketch we were doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And uh but Manny was there for a real workout day and just kindly uh allowed Tosh like 20 minutes of his time and they did this little thing. | ||
| Um but I got to see Manny work out. | ||
| It is very meticulous. | ||
| It's all like these he's working out with rubber bands where it's like short little movements and and it's all these twisting and turning and he's got guys stretching him, he's like, you know, he's moving around, like everything's very slow. | ||
| Very slow. | ||
| The body warmed up first. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His first couple rounds of even we watched him hit the mitts. | ||
| His first couple rounds of even hitting the mitts. | ||
| It's like tap tap tap tap tap just move. | ||
| Yeah, just get everything get everything flowing. | ||
| I watched uh Olympic ice skaters. | ||
| I was so I was doing a gig at Laugh Boston, and they had some huge tournament. | ||
| And this woman was in there, she was apparently an Olympian. | ||
| Watching the way she warms up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like like like her ankles rubbing down, all these little details. | ||
| I was like, that looks boring as shit, but it is You have to do it. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| Otherwise you wind up all busted up and broken. | ||
| But that it allows me to actually wrestle. | ||
| DG to be fifty-eight and actually shooting single and double legs against the monsters in That's silly. | ||
| And I'm on with like you know Sean Apperson or Tyson Mendyas, those guys at archetype boxing, they're just all muscle. | ||
| And you're wrestling with them? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then Tim Kennedy, those guys. | ||
| Trying to get hurt. | ||
| Well, well, I'm not sure. | ||
| My advantage is I I just go I make a I make a weird noise and then I fall. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I go like this. | ||
| And I tap or I fall down. | ||
| Did you see that video I sent you of that 80-year-old woman who completed an Iron Man? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| 80 years old, she completed an Iron Man triathlon. | ||
| Which is I think it's 120 miles on a bike, and then it's a marathon. | ||
| And how what is how long is the swim? | ||
| Did I send it to you, Jimmy? | ||
| I think it's two miles, two point six miles. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| She's eighty years old. | ||
| But I think if you keep if you do something every day like that, I I actually think you can it's it's just keep a lot. | ||
| Like like what people never do is they they don't have sprints. | ||
| I don't know how to say her last name. | ||
| Grabow Gribo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Either way. | ||
| Natalie, you're a monster. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Eighty years old. | ||
| So nuts. | ||
| She became the oldest woman to finish the Iron Man World Championship. | ||
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God. | |
| That is so incredible. | ||
| 2.8 kilometer swim. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So whatever that is in miles. | ||
| I'm not good. | ||
| I'm not going to do this. | ||
| I think what they're doing this kill. | ||
| I mean, this must be a UK website. | ||
| It's covering this. | ||
| Because I think it's all done in miles. | ||
| I believe. | ||
| I've had I've never had an interest in endurance stuff. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Um I have an interest in it, but here's the thing. | ||
| Um it doesn't matter, Jamie. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| Anyway, this whatever this lady didn't have to do. | ||
| It's fucking incredible. | ||
| We don't need to break it down exactly to miles, but I'm pretty sure it's like a hundred and twenty-mile bike ride and a full marathon. | ||
| I mean, at eighty, all in a day. | ||
| And uh th two-mile whatever swim. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Hillet is a beast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're it's a beast. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's just will. | ||
| That's just having a fucking iron will. | ||
| The problem with that is it will consume your life. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That would that that obsession with endurance will consume your life. | ||
| Um you can let it do that if that's what you're into. | ||
| If like you want to find peace in the punishment that you give yourself, like David Goggins does. | ||
| When I talk to him, he's he's so crazy because he's doing all this stuff by himself for no reason. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Uh he goes, I'm getting lessons. | |
| He's telling me he's like learning things, and he's not bullshitting. | ||
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No. | |
| Like he's he really it's like he's like a strange type of a monk that we've never had before. | ||
| So let me ask you, uh the question is is it a is he a monk, which he probably is, or is he an addict? | ||
| And you maybe you can be both. | ||
| Yeah, you can be both. | ||
| I think monks are addicts too. | ||
| Because they're addicted to being calm. | ||
| They don't want any women in their life, they don't want any possessions. | ||
| Like, dude, I'm good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm addicted to just being like this. | ||
| Yeah, they they were doing this ri this uh neuroplasticity kind of like these scans, and they found that the monks that sit around and meditate on joy. | ||
| You know, they like think of the joyous things that that part of their brain expands. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean They should talk to Charlie Sheen because he was telling me a story about how he got his dick sucked while he was smoking crack for the very first time, and it was the greatest experience of his life. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He said, To this day, nothing's top down. | ||
| The greatest experience of his life was the first time he smoked crack, a girl was giving him head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know So tell that monk to go fuck himself. | ||
| My friend did my friend who did heroin. | ||
| He he he um well I may as well say it, Artie Lang. | ||
| Artie said it's he said it on the podcast. | ||
| He said um he did heroin the first time, and as his head hit the pillow, he went, I'm in trouble. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like this is just I'm gonna chase this trap. | ||
| Yeah, Dave Landau said a very similar thing. | ||
| He did it once. | ||
| Um I think it was Dave, right? | ||
| It was, right? | ||
| Dave. | ||
| That shit'll that shit'll for some people that shit'll grab you. | ||
| Oh, I think for most people that shit grabs you. | ||
| Yeah, I think you have to be like averse to doing things that'll fuck your life up. | ||
| Like you have to have like a an automatic like maybe you grew up around alcoholics or something like that, Or you saw I I didn't none of my like I didn't have like uh anyone in my family that ruined their life with alcohol, but I did have friends that had uh close relatives that I saw become addicted to cocaine and I saw this when I was in high school. | ||
| So I got like really scared of addiction, and I also when I was working construction, there's this fucking dude that I was friends with who was really cool. | ||
| He was uh an older guy, I mean older than me, and I was like 16 at the time, 17, and uh he was probably in his early 30s, but he couldn't keep his shit together. | ||
| He just couldn't stop drinking, and he would he would be good for a while and then he would start drinking again. | ||
| And um man, he was so funny, he was so fun, he was like such a cool guy, and he was a drummer in a band, and the band just you know, never kind of his name is Robbie, and the band never kind of fucking got it together, but he was like he could have been my best friend if like we were the same age and we were hanging out together. | ||
| It's just not sustainable. | ||
| But I was watching a man who was a carpenter, he was a Finnish carpenter, and uh, you know, very talented carpenter, but he would just ruin his life every time. | ||
| With coke or with booze both. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Both booze and coke, but booze would start it off. | ||
| It would be, you know, he'd all of a sudden be drinking a Budweiser, and then it was off to the races. | ||
| I don't that's the thing about uh addiction, you know. | ||
| I I or just anything in life if you want to be good at something. | ||
| I actually don't think you can do it necessarily. | ||
| I mean, some people can maybe, but I don't know how long when you say when you talk about discipline, when you say I'm just not gonna do it, you you that worked for some people, but I don't think it works for people like that. | ||
| I think what they have to do their brains wired differently. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They have to figure out a way to make sobriety more pleasurable than the other thing. | ||
| And that's fucking hard. | ||
| Well, Jimmy Norton, you know, his mom famously said when he was like hooked on hookers. | ||
| She's like, Jimmy, you gotta take your addictions and channel it into something positive. | ||
| Like it was really funny. | ||
| He'd talk about like how fucking off the rails he was, but how his mom would help him, you know, like with that piece of advice. | ||
| But that is true. | ||
| Like, so if you can all of sudden become a marathon runner when before you were just looking to score meth every day, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You definitely that's a better thing to be addicted to because it's not gonna ruin your life. | ||
| It might ruin your ankles and your knees and shit. | ||
| But you it's not gonna ruin your life where it like takes away all your money and you you wind up sucking dick for rocks, you know, like the hot people do stuff. | ||
| They do. | ||
| Well, do you remember I said to you, uh we were talking, and I said, I think you had gotten some, you know, it was in the press you made some sign some deal or something. | ||
| And I said, you know, I've known you 30 years, and the one thing the the only thing that's changed about you is you've gotten more peace of mind. | ||
| Like you just haven't changed really. | ||
| Like you just not you haven't changed. | ||
| And um I said, what do you think it is? | ||
| Which I'm always careful about talking about because I don't want anybody, any of my friends to get into their head about it, right? | ||
| Just like shut the fuck up. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like don't start asking too many questions. | ||
| But I was like gently kind of going, I wonder we were kind of exploring what it is that keeps you grounded. | ||
| And I you said to me, I like to do something really hard every day, so it reminds me what a bitch I am. | ||
| Well that this is the same thing I feel about the I wrestle almost four days a week now, which is ridiculous. | ||
| It's actually embarrassing, right? | ||
| But I do it because it r it it's hard. | ||
| And I don't want to, and I have to warm my frame up, and then I have to go wrestle around with these fucking monsters. | ||
| But there's something about it getting better at it, kind of slowly the incremental criminal getting better at something, and I do it because it's hard. | ||
| That grounds me. | ||
| No matter what, I know I did that today. | ||
| And that's a really good starting point. | ||
| That's something to jump off of. | ||
| There's something that, you know, and and if someone's listening and they're not into that, you don't definitely don't have to do that. | ||
| Just try to do yoga every day. | ||
| Try to go to uh one of those beakroom 90 minute hot yoga classes is some of the hardest shit I've ever done physically in my life. | ||
| So you don't have to like go wrestle. | ||
| You could do something that more aligns with your political ideology. | ||
| No, I always say that. | ||
| If you're especially I can't speak to women, if you're a young man, you want to find yourself, just get really Good at something. | ||
| Like just get good at fucking the piano. | ||
| I don't care what it is. | ||
| I I always use jujitsu or something like that just because it's hard, but it's it's a it's a placeholder for a lot of other things. | ||
| Well, it also lets you know that there's a process in life that you can apply like universally, and that is like focus and attention and you know, and this objective goal of getting better, and then you see progress. | ||
| And then you realize, like, oh, this is kind of applicable to just being a human being. | ||
| Like you can get better at being a human being by by thinking about okay, I fucked that up, I fuck this up, but I did that good. | ||
| Oh, what did I do differently? | ||
| Oh, okay, let's do more of that. | ||
| But then yeah. | ||
| Over time, you get better at being a human being. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you don't ever try to get good at anything, you're the same douchebag you were when you were in high school. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But now you're 48 instead of 16. | ||
| Yeah, and you're you have the emotional maturity of a child. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of people out there running around like that that are just grown-up babies. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And they mask it with they'll mask it with a good vocabulary. | ||
| Yeah, or or they'll mask it with uh like um you know, part of like everybody wants to be an individual, right? | ||
| You want to be a little mysterious, you want to have a little like a skill set. | ||
| And one of the great things about stand-up is you you know, no matter where I am, I know I got that. | ||
| Like I'll put me in front of a group, uh a crowd of a hundred, two hundred, three hundred people, doesn't matter. | ||
| I don't care who they are, I'll make I'm gonna make them laugh. | ||
| I know how to navigate that space for an hour. | ||
| That's a nice thing to know. | ||
| But if you don't have that, you don't have a skill set. | ||
| If you don't have something, what happens is you then negotiate individuality with um accoutrement, as they say in France, which means your hair blue. | ||
| Of course, and and get all kinds of tattoos and then do some crazy shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But you have no face tattoos. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| But you're gonna do you're gonna do a lot of shit. | ||
| You're gonna do a lot of it. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Get your nipples, get two hearts on your nipples. | ||
| Or get them pierced. | ||
| That's the best. | ||
| That's hot. | ||
| You're definitely making good decisions. | ||
| Fifty eight years old. | ||
| Rods through your nipples, and you're a man. | ||
| It's a new look. | ||
| I'm trying something out. | ||
| L O L. But you know what I mean? | ||
| You'll do that. | ||
| And then you'll attach yourself to some political cause. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All those people that are protesting on the streets, 99% of them are losers. | ||
| The other ones work for the Fed. | ||
| I have a whole joke about that. | ||
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It's like fucking uh you know, if I'm FBI agents and losers, that's all it is. | |
| The whole fucking every protest is FBI agents and losers. | ||
| I talk about this all the time. | ||
| I'm like, for me, you want me to join a protest? | ||
| You want me to get out on the street, first of all, to make a sign? | ||
| The fuck out of here. | ||
| And then I'm not sure. | ||
| You don't have to make the sign. | ||
| There's there's a guy with a van who's paid by George Soros, and he's got stacks of signs that were made at Kinkos. | ||
| Okay, they're not homemade at all. | ||
| And you just fucking just pass those bad boys out. | ||
| I'm never leading your revolution. | ||
| My problem is my sign would say, Ugh, or it's complicated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, if you're really trying to get your life together. | ||
| But there's some things, you know, that people feel need to be protested, like people in the UK. | ||
| Like they're a polite group. | ||
| This is a polite society, England, for the most part, you know. | ||
| And they've gotten to the point where they're like, okay, this is kind of nuts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, what are you guys doing? | ||
| They've arrested twelve thousand people this year for social media posts. | ||
| Isn't that insane? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And counting. | ||
| Yeah, and they're arresting people for just saying things in public like I like bacon around uh the Muslims. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I looked up that that uh it's some kind of a an information act that uh and if you one of the things is if you're if you post annoying, annoying. | ||
| It's like that's everything I've ever got. | ||
| That's like I'm annoyed. | ||
| And the Brits are the Brits are famously sarcastic. | ||
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Right. | |
| And also it depends entirely on who you are, because like what's annoying to me might not be remotely annoying to other people. | ||
| So I get to decide whether or not you've committed a crime. | ||
| They would have they would have arrested Trump 50,000 times, you know. | ||
| At least. | ||
| But uh that that's that's uh I I always say that the Brits they the Brits I I don't wake them up. | ||
| Yeah, because they conquered the live that small island of pale people conquered the fucking world. | ||
| Don't don't be like because I think that there's the Irish too. | ||
| Like you be careful now. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Be careful because they're very comfortable in a couple situations. | ||
| They come alive and when it when it comes to soccer, i.e. | ||
| football, and fist fights and fucking war. | ||
| Yeah, and fist fights. | ||
| Correct, sir. | ||
| Just a long history of warriors and Ireland and the UK. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And great. | ||
| They make great mob movies. | ||
| Boy, Guy Richie's fucking show, Mobland. | ||
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Dude. | |
| Have you watched that show on Netflix? | ||
| I love his movies. | ||
| Oh my God, it's good. | ||
| It's so is Mobile on Netflix? | ||
| No, it's Paramount Plus. | ||
| That's all the same. | ||
| One of them streaming service. | ||
| It's not all the same. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| One of those streaming services has it, but it's fucking great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking great. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| And it just shows you like how crazy like the UK mob scene is. | ||
| It's like it's probably pretty accurate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's uh they always say the SAS and stuff. | ||
| Is it Jimmy? | ||
| Paramount. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's good though, huh? | ||
| It's real good. | ||
| One of the best shows ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like as far as like, you know, dramas where you follow them along, which really ruined movies. | ||
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| Dude, they're so sarcastic. | ||
| I'm sitting there with my friend. | ||
| We're in a shoot. | ||
| Which would mean you wear you wear a collar and tie, sir with with n those knickers, those uh are you talking about like a shoot with a gun? | ||
| I did a pheasant shoot. | ||
| Oh, you went hunting. | ||
| Sir, yes. | ||
| And now at night we shot deer. | ||
| But in the mor in the morning, you have we they do drives, and please follow along. | ||
| We we we wake up, we have a wonderful breakfast at the estate, and I'm paying for none of this. | ||
| And then we uh we go out and we have a loader. | ||
| I had a loader, because I can't load my own shells. | ||
| I had a loader who is a British guy, and that's what they do. | ||
| And then the villagers beat the bush to get the partridges that have been stocked. | ||
| I'm sorry, and both. | ||
| Oh, sorry, both both. | ||
| Now it's a huge business. | ||
| It it supports an entire community, so these shoots are you know, they're very expensive. | ||
| So the person sponsoring it pays essentially all these, everybody's making money. | ||
| Rich people recreation. | ||
| It's a huge rich people recreation. | ||
| And um, but uh there's something there's something I don't know what else. | ||
| Well, what were we talking about? | ||
| I lost my train of thought. | ||
| You're talking about English people. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're so sarcastic. | ||
| So I've got this loader um who's next to me, and uh, I'm missing the birds. | ||
| I'm not good with a shotgun, and I just they're coming right at us, and I'm fucking literally just missing all of them. | ||
| And at one point he looks at me and goes, Are you a vegan? | ||
| I was like, fuck you, dude. | ||
| Like he just quietly said that. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| He goes, swing your barrels. | ||
| Well, you have to learn how to do that. | ||
| I um actually in the UK learned how to do it. | ||
| I you learned how to do it in Scotland. | ||
| Oh, you did that, didn't you? | ||
| No, I did Clay Pigeons. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You know, the those are really fun. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| And uh you learn how you have to lead them, and you learn like how to shoot with a uh a shotgun where you're you're kinda like you kinda it's almost like feel like you feel where the pellets are gonna go and you want the discs. | ||
| Well, you gotta swing your barrel. | ||
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Right? | |
| So so when the bird's coming, you you go belly, you go tail, belly, beak, and you keep you pull the trigger as you lead the bird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like throwing a football. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then they run into the pellets and they they perish. | ||
| So different than any other shooting that I've ever done, because all the shooting that I've ever done, you have to be dead still. | ||
| Like everything I've shot with a rifle, rather. | ||
| So rifle shooting, you you don't move at all, and it's just about control and controlling yourself and staying calm and not flinching when you pull the trigger. | ||
| But this is so different. | ||
| It's like, you know, they used to say that like the comanche, one of the things that was crazy Was they some of them weren't even really accurate with a bow if you just gave them a bow and told them to shoot at it like a target. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They weren't accurate. | ||
| Really? | ||
| But on a horse. | ||
| So on the horse the gallop and they had this fucking zap. | ||
| They knew where that arrow was going. | ||
| So that they're using the chaos. | ||
| So what the movement and all the like the darting around, like they just guide the arrow, like in the middle of chaos and war. | ||
| So you love archery. | ||
| Do you know what what was a game changer with art with with shooting shooting or uh a bow from a horse, you know you know what invention changed everything? | ||
| Probably stirrups. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah, because they can hang over the side. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Well, you can also stand up and break you know, so it's like you can stay steady and then shoot the mongol. | ||
| Comanche used to run uh like very similarly, like that guy is a fucking bad thing. | ||
| That's a m that's a mongrel, bro. | ||
| That guy is so badass. | ||
| That's where that guy Shovkot comes from, I think. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Yeah, but the kind of core strength you have to have to do what that guy was just doing. | ||
| Go back to that first one. | ||
| Oh, is it a YouTube or something? | ||
| You know who can ride horses like that? | ||
| Who's that who's that good at horses? | ||
| Sylvester Stallone. | ||
| He grew up on this. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Bro, that kind of strength to be able to hang completely sideways. | ||
| Like when it starts in the beginning, that's not as impressive as the very first frame. | ||
| Go to the very first frame. | ||
| What look look at he's look at his positioning. | ||
| That's that's his bananas. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| Like his spine and his core are so it must be so fucking strong. | ||
| Think about fighting him. | ||
| If you've got a sword and you have to deal with a group of those dudes injured, there's a lot of bad motherfuckers from that part of the world, bro. | ||
| A lot of bad motherfuckers. | ||
| Where they hunt with each other. | ||
| Kazakhstan. | ||
| Like, and they hate him. | ||
| They're like, if he comes there, they're gonna kill him. | ||
| My bet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, like they because they made everybody look like a goat fucker and a retard, and meanwhile, they're like some of the fiercest fucking human beings on earth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like Shovcott unfortunately just injured his knee again. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He had surgery in his knee, was rehabbing his knee and blew it out again. | ||
| And now he has to have another surgery, and now it's ten months. | ||
| There's a few guys that I've known who have done that where they got ACL reconstruction. | ||
| I don't know if Shovkot had ACL. | ||
| But any kind of reconstruction of the ligaments, you um you feel better before you're better. | ||
| You gotta be real careful because what happens is when you get a reconstruction of your knee, So, like, say if they use a cadaver, that does not become your new tendon. | ||
| What that does is becomes a scaffolding for your new tendon. | ||
| And so your body has to proliferate that scaffolding of the dead guy's tendon with fresh tendon meat. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And eventually it becomes your tendon. | ||
| But it feels good right away, but you've got a rotten old piece of meat in there that your body is taking over with its own tissue. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, didn't you have that done? | ||
| I had that done, yeah. | ||
| And and how long did it take you? | ||
| Six months. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Six months I was doing jujitsu again. | ||
| But you couldn't do anything until then. | ||
| No, I was bringing really smart. | ||
| I I was really smart about it because I that was my second knee reconstruction. | ||
| I had my left knee reconstructed too. | ||
| That was a patella tendon graft, and that one took a lot longer to heal. | ||
| Because you you're taking a chip out of your bone, a chip out of your shin, and a slice of your patella tendon, which is a very thick, large tendon, and then they open you up like a fish and screw both of them in place. | ||
| It's very invasive. | ||
| Whereas the one on the right knee, um, the ACL reconstruction with a cadaver was a really easy recovery. | ||
| Like uh, I was I went to a party like six days later with just a brace on, just walking around. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah, I was not bad at all. | ||
| I mean, I was careful with it, you know, but I was very diligent with the rehab, like every day. | ||
| I was doing rehab every day. | ||
| And like really doing it, like not bullshitting around. | ||
| I was doing like I would go in the steam shower and do deep squats and wow. | ||
| I was really re rebuilt all the tissue before I ever even thought about doing jujitsu again. | ||
| But jujitsu six months later, no problem at all. | ||
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Wow. | |
| What protects me is my um moderate temperament. | ||
| I'm I'm good at like you being like, mm, I can feel a little something, I'll be stopping now. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You probably don't have that gene. | ||
| You just keep it. | ||
| I'm terrible at that. | ||
| That's why I get hurt sometimes because I meathead my way through things. | ||
| I just decide to push through the pain, and next thing you know you've got something legitimately wrong. | ||
| Well, that's it. | ||
| Like I was doing toes to bar you and and hanging, and I my wrist has never been the same. | ||
| Like you hurt your wrist. | ||
| Yeah, I pulled I broke something or did something where I it's all you know, there's a certain angles. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But the pr problem is you're way more fragile than you realize. | ||
| You are for sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, I unfortunately is tougher. | ||
| Every day I hang for two minutes. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| And it's new. | ||
| It's I've only been doing it like the last time. | ||
| Well what do you get out of it? | ||
| I think I feel better, like my spine feels better. | ||
| I've been doing a bunch of things at the same time, so it's hard to tell what has the most impact. | ||
| I think they all have a lot of impact. | ||
| But one of the things I've been doing is like I go to this guy and get trigger point work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Trigger point massage. | ||
| It's it's so painful. | ||
| It's some of the most fucking it's not massage. | ||
| You can call it massage. | ||
| It's this guy's digging elbows and knuckles into like your IT band and you uh yeah, all different parts you're just that's my calves, I'll fucking cry. | ||
| Different parts of your spine, different parts of your calves, your your legs, your your lower back, all that stuff. | ||
| But also hanging every day. | ||
| And the more I hang in the beginning, I was like, I wonder if this is gonna like really help anything. | ||
| Or if it's just me trying to see how long I can hang. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh and so now I do two minutes. | ||
| I just hang there. | ||
| It's so long time by the way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um I can go to two thirty-seven, that's the longest I've gone. | ||
| At right now I'm like two oh two. | ||
| But I wonder it pr probably first of all makes your hands really strong. | ||
| It makes my hands real strong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're very callous now, like maybe more callous than they've ever been. | ||
| They've always been kind of callous from kettlebells, but now I'm getting different ones, like on the front fingers, the the the pointer fingers. | ||
| I always get my caluses on the right where the ring finger is for some reason on both hands. | ||
| That's the biggest cow. | ||
| I guess that's where it grip the hardest or where it grinds around the most. | ||
| But my back feels better. | ||
| It's just feels like looser. | ||
| Like it's got it's like it's and I'm like, okay, well, I've only done this for a few weeks every day. | ||
| Like what if I do this every day for a year? | ||
| Like what happens? | ||
| Does it can you actually decompress your spine? | ||
| Well, it turns out you can't. | ||
| So I started going on YouTube and following people's uh hanging journeys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is one lady, she I guess you broke the world record. | ||
| She hung for twenty-three minutes. | ||
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What? | |
| What? | ||
| Isn't it funny? | ||
| Well, the human body, if you can you can train yourself to do almost any how you can adapt, but that's nuts. | ||
| There's people out there that are just different than you. | ||
| There are people and I know that. | ||
| They have not just you, like everybody listening, they have a different will. | ||
| Their will is different. | ||
| The wi the kind of will that you have to have to hang from a bar for twenty-three fucking minutes is so crazy. | ||
| This guy does it for two hours and twenty-two minutes. | ||
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What? | |
| Why switching arms, obviously, but yeah, it's the long time. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Life is too long. | ||
| I think that lady has the ladies' record. | ||
| Life is too short to hang from a bar that long. | ||
| Two hours and twenty-two minutes. | ||
| That's pretty crazy, man. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| That guy must be a fucking some kind of crazy rock climber, right? | ||
| His body, yeah, his body looks pretty uh pretty normal. | ||
| Well, it's all really about your hands and your grip if you are uh a rock climber. | ||
| I mean, you have to have leg strength and flexibility and a bunch of other things as well for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But God, your grip is what keeps you alive. | ||
| Without your grip, you don't have jack shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But um this lady that was doing it, I was just watching her doing it. | ||
| She was doing the same thing. | ||
| She was like switching hands and shit. | ||
| So you give your left hand a break and then you hold on with your right hand, your right hand a breakphone. | ||
| I think your body uh I do it, I I find that the game changer for me was when I stopped stretching and started strengthening. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So you can stretch, you should do some stretching, but my routine before I wrestle or something is to strengthen, so I'll warm it up. | ||
| So I do I do strengthening exercises for my lower back. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Like planks. | ||
| Yeah, or just no, just like bird dogs and fire hydrants and you know, all that shit. | ||
| And uh that stuff is that that's been the game changer. | ||
| Like with my shoulders, I was getting tenninitis, right? | ||
| And then I just started doing all these different shoulder things with bands. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Right before I do it, and sure enough, you get stronger. | ||
| My neck, same thing. | ||
| My neck people don't work their neck. | ||
| Like as they get older at all. | ||
| I think your neck is really important. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I do that iron, you know that. | ||
| And then I get a band sometimes and I'll just turn like that, like I'll be on my own. | ||
| The best thing about the iron neck, in my opinion, is there's other stuff that you could do, like harnesses where you do like chin ups with your neck or like not chin ups like you think of. | ||
| But like you have this harness around your head, and then there's a chain at the end of the chain is a dumbbell, and then what you're doing is just using your neck to lift the weights. | ||
| The guy from Iron Neck had a real good point. | ||
| He's like that that puts like weird stress on your all those different discs. | ||
| It does? | ||
| Yeah, so when you're doing it. | ||
| When you're yeah. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| And he's like, you can really get hurt. | ||
| Whereas what you want to do is strengthen your neck so that it doesn't do that, right? | ||
| In all sports. | ||
| In sports, it's very rare that you use your neck like that. | ||
| Wrestling. | ||
| I used to use my neck in jujitsu, and I actually started developing a problem. | ||
| I had a bulging disc for a while. | ||
| And that it was one, it was also definitely getting caught and not tapping like a dumb ass. | ||
| But two, it was arm triangles. | ||
| I was I had a really good arm triangle, head and arm choke. | ||
| So if I got mount on someone and I was able to isolate that arm, that I am I have a really good head and arm choke. | ||
| But in that head and arm choke, I'm using my neck. | ||
| That's part of the reason why it's good, because I have a thick neck. | ||
| So because if I can get your arm right here, I got another weapon. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like you're thinking about my arms holding on to you, but I'm holding on to you with this, and this is strong as fuck. | ||
| If I get you in this position and I'm holding that arm there, but the problem was I was developing like a real pinch nerve, and then it wound up making my fingertips numb. | ||
| And then that's when I found out the chiropractors are quacks. | ||
| I went to a chiropractor for like a year and just gave this guy money to bullshit me. | ||
| It's like God damn it. | ||
| It made me so mad on your foot. | ||
| Press on the top of my head to see if I had a bulging disc. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| I go, uh, do maybe I have a bulging disc. | ||
| And like I just thought this guy was cool. | ||
| I thought he was a doctor as well. | ||
| I did know that chiropractors go to zero days of medical school and they get to call themselves a doctor. | ||
| I also didn't know that chiropractic, the whole idea of it was founded by a magnetic healer who uh like it came to him like a seance or some shit. | ||
| He was a complete fraud. | ||
| And his son, who was a con artist, took over the business. | ||
| Son ran over him with a car, by the way. | ||
| Killed that guy. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Son killed the dad, ran over him with a car. | ||
| Psychopath and then took over his business and then started saying that, you know, the cracking people's backs can fix leukemia and all kinds of shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You have to you have to align your meridian points. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's all made up stuff. | ||
| But there is something beneficial about manipulating your spine, though. | ||
| This is what's interesting, right? | ||
| There's something beneficial about um massage and a lot of the other things that are doing. | ||
| They're they're essentially loosening up like this trigger point shit that I told you I've been doing. | ||
| That's the extreme version of it, which I think is way more effective. | ||
| But there's something to the manipulation. | ||
| Well, it releases but there's also a lot of people that have had fucking serious consequences of getting their neck cracked, where they have strokes, correct. | ||
| And like things fuck like this uh there's a guy I just saw on um the news the other day that had compartment syndrome where he's like he can't move his body anymore because he went to a chiropractor, and before he's like this like little smiley happy guy, like nightmare. | ||
| And again, this is not all chiropractors, a lot of chiropractors, I'm sure, give you benefit because I think there's something too like loosening you up. | ||
| Well, no, it's pushing on you, and there's a physical therapy aspect. | ||
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| Some the chiropractors know what you're talking about, so when they go into it, they study physical therapy. | ||
| So I had a chiropractor say to me, your hips are you're you're you're atrophy and your ass is atrophy on the bottom. | ||
| So you have to strengthen that part because it'll bring your hips into alignment. | ||
| He was dead, he was right on. | ||
| Yeah, so those guys study that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's what he really is. | ||
| He shouldn't be saying he's a doctor. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That's what's crazy. | ||
| It's not that there's no benefit to it. | ||
| It's like they all want to call themselves doctor too. | ||
| You know, I'm Dr. Rogan. | ||
| Like come on. | ||
| You know who the um you know Squat University, you ever follow that that account? | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| That guy, everybody I know who like he trains Olympic weightlifters and real Olympians, and he'll show you what what he's he knows the body so well, and this is the greatest. | ||
| I I DM him because people I respect were talking about how they they follow him, like a lot I know a lot of trainers who follow them and stuff. | ||
| And if you if you go to his thing, you'll see he demonstrates how somebody will have an impingement. | ||
| This is an Olympic weightlifter or something. | ||
| Pain for two years, and then he'll give them an exercise. | ||
| Literally an exercise, and it will actually change them almost instantaneously or within a couple of days, right? | ||
| And because he really understands the body. | ||
| So I had heel pain, really bad heel pain. | ||
| I would wake up and I couldn't walk, so it's like plantar fasciitis, what's going on? | ||
| You had gouts on so I go to a couple of podiatrists and they make me the implants, it's like you just need art support and all that. | ||
| I DM him, I can't remember his name. | ||
| And he um he said, you know, I'm gonna send you a video on a guy, your shoes may be too narrow. | ||
| And what's going on? | ||
| You do wear those fucking goosebumps. | ||
| Dress shoes. | ||
| I got my keys on. | ||
| But I did. | ||
| I would wear those kind of, you know, you want to be cool. | ||
| And what was happening is my big toes being every time I would wear a blazer, every time I blazer, I would sometimes be like, I'm gonna wear a blazer and a collar shirt, and I'd walk in and you'd go, Hey, you're teaching substitute school, you a substitute teacher again? | ||
| I'd be like, fuck this man, take it off. | ||
| So much for that. | ||
| Anytime I wear a collared shirt, you're gonna be a big one. | ||
| Well, you're wearing slippery shoes. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You're wearing those weird dress shoes that are slipping. | ||
| I try to I try to I try to change it up. | ||
| I'm like, I'm gonna dress like an adult. | ||
| I want to be like Jordan Peterson, but it never lasts. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta give up on that. | ||
| But he told me, he goes, he said, I think what's happening is your sh your big toes being pushed in, and sometimes that cuts blood off to your heel. | ||
| So your heel is actually at is actually getting necrosis, actually dying. | ||
| You're not getting blood. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| The blood has to go through the heel to get to the big thing. | ||
| It's not like does it go that way? | ||
| Yep, there's an artery. | ||
| It goes all the way to the end. | ||
| When you push here, which is the end of the line, which is your toes. | ||
| As a doctor, I can tell you, as you push here. | ||
| And then it turns around and goes through the heel. | ||
| Whatever this happened when this happens, it blocks blood flow. | ||
| The it it blocks the the artery that's taking place. | ||
| I wore wide toe shoes like that, within five days, all my my pain was gone. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes sense though. | ||
| And no podiatrist knew that. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Because he studies the body because he works with the top athletes, and if he doesn't get results, he doesn't get paid. | ||
| That's that's that's what we have to look at. | ||
| Do podiatrists ever tell you you should do foot exercises? | ||
| Well, do you go to a podiatrist and they say what you really need to do is wear barefoot shoes and pull a sled. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like when I do f foot exercises. | ||
| You're use some of those like bare like vivo barefoot shoes and pull a sled. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'll get stronger. | ||
| You'll feel every little part of your foot like pushing. | ||
| And that's how they're supposed to engage. | ||
| You know, traditional shoes are essentially like a cast. | ||
| There's this hard thing that that that separates you from the ground so your toes don't articulate and push and everything is just like from the leg into this cast and that pushes down because it's like this big spongy hard surface that you put your fucking foot into. | ||
| How much do you do how how often, like how many hours you work out like how long a day? | ||
| Every day at least an hour. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| I like to do a couple hours though, because I like to have like especially strength training. | ||
| I like to have long weights in between um exercises. | ||
| It allows you to fully recover before you do it again. | ||
| How heavy do you go? | ||
| That's uh it's all based on uh Pavel Tatsulin. | ||
| Um his um it's all from the Russians, like how they would train kettlebells. | ||
| He and his philosophy is that strength is a skill, and you should never do a skill when you're tired. | ||
| So if you're if you're doing like power cleans, like if I'm doing uh cleans and presses, I'm waiting five minutes in between each set. | ||
| I'm waiting a long time. | ||
| Really? | ||
| At least. | ||
| Sometimes ten. | ||
| So you're doing Olympics. | ||
| And I don't care. | ||
| Olympic weight lifting. | ||
| No, no, it's kettlebell stuff. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So I'm cleaning and pressing, like uh you know mo the heaviest I usually use is like seventy pounds. | ||
| Every now and then I'll fuck around. | ||
| I have like a I have a big foot one that's like ninety-two. | ||
| I'll bust out some reps with the big foot. | ||
| But most of the time I'm doing 70 pounds. | ||
| That's my heavy my heavy. | ||
| And what is that for you? | ||
| Like like uh So I do sets three sets of ten cleans and presses. | ||
| And by the tenth, well, how tired are you? | ||
| Not tired at all. | ||
| That's the whole thing. | ||
| The whole thing is you get all the reps that you would get if you smashed them all together. | ||
| If you only took like a minute off in between each set and you went through it. | ||
| So you get all the strength, but what you're not doing is you're not operating under fatigue. | ||
| So it's not pushing failure? | ||
| No. | ||
| And it's not a muscular endurance thing. | ||
| No, you're not pushing failure at all, which is also I thought was crazy. | ||
| The philosophy is it's not the failure that gets you strong. | ||
| It's the amount of repetitions. | ||
| The whole thing is the amount of repetitions. | ||
| Now, if you do three sets of ten and you do them back to back, boy, you get to that third set, you might barely be able to get up that tenth rep, right? | ||
| Because you're exhausted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you've done cleans and presses, you gave yourself like a minute rest in between sets and then you went and did it again, and a minute rest in between the third set, and then you want you're fucking tired as shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you're waiting ten minutes in between each r each set, you're doing the same amount of work, but easily. | ||
| So you you have a less of a chance of getting hurt, and your goal is not muscular endurance. | ||
| Your goal when you're doing strength training is just strength. | ||
| That's what you're trying to do. | ||
| So the whole way to get strong is not going to failure. | ||
| This is their philosophy. | ||
| You can argue it if you want, and especially bodybuilders, I'm sure would argue with it, because it's a different thing. | ||
| We're just trying to get massive. | ||
| But his thought is if you can do say 20 reps to failure, don't do that. | ||
| Do ten. | ||
| And then wait a long time and then do another ten. | ||
| And it's just as good as doing 20 sets to failure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The whole thing that gets you strong is just work. | ||
| It's just the numbers. | ||
| And it allows your body to fully recover so that you can you when you lift it up, like if you go to clean the second set, you're you're fully engaged, you feel good, you feel rested, you feel strong, and then you bust out those sets, and then you wait again. | ||
| I wait fucking maybe ten minutes. | ||
| I'm just sitting around, I'm yeah, I watch a YouTube video, maybe I stretch, and then I get out and I do it again. | ||
| So that's those are the long days. | ||
| So when I have a lot of time, uh that's how I like to work out. | ||
| I like to work out in these long two hour chunks. | ||
| I got small kids, bro. | ||
| It's never happening. | ||
| Yeah, but if you get up in the morning, you can do it. | ||
| If you get up before everybody else, or if you do it when everybody's asleep, you could do it. | ||
| But the the point is if you want to like that, that's a way to get strong that I think you lessen your chances of injury. | ||
| You're always got a chance of injury. | ||
| You're lifting heavy things. | ||
| But I don't lift things that are that heavy. | ||
| And um the heaviest thing I lift really is my body. | ||
| I do a lot of body weight squats, a lot of bodyweight stuff, pull-ups, dips, chin-ups. | ||
| Yeah, I do a lot of stuff. | ||
| L's L chin-ups, you know, where your feet are extended and you're doing chin-ups like this. | ||
| I do a lot of those. | ||
| And I do those toe to bars. | ||
| Um, I do those like you were talking about those suck. | ||
| But they're really good for your abs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do a lot of ab stuff. | ||
| I have like a heavy core ab routine. | ||
| But I've always kind of done that. | ||
| It's like really important for kicking. | ||
| Like kicking, you know, uh, people think it's in the legs, and it certainly is, but a lot of it is in your in the torque that you generate with your core. | ||
| That's really where the power comes from. | ||
| It comes from here. | ||
| A real powerful kick is all from it's all and the leg kind of follows through with it. | ||
| But when you dig into it, if you have a weak core, you there's no way you're gonna generate enough force to even get that leg moving correctly. | ||
| I love that we're 58 and talking about the importance of kicking and torque. | ||
| I could think that way. | ||
| I could think oh, I'm 58. | ||
| Why do I think of that? | ||
| But I just think what I like. | ||
| I was just working on my double leg. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Who are you talking to? | ||
| But also more importantly, I do the work to make sure that my body can still do this at fifty-eight. | ||
| If you're like 58 and you're a mailman and you've been drinking every night and you haven't gone to the gym in six months, you're like, I'm gonna go kick the bag, like slow. | ||
| Slow down, you're gonna get hurt. | ||
| Started five minutes. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta build, like you say, oh Rogan hangs for two minutes. | ||
| I'm gonna go hang for two minutes. | ||
| You first of all you're not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you're gonna hurt yourself. | ||
| Like, don't. | ||
| If you want to start hanging, hang for 15 seconds. | ||
| Just do that every day for 15 seconds, and then one day you'll be able to do 30 pretty easy. | ||
| And then next thing you know, you'll be doing a minute. | ||
| I always say that to people. | ||
| I say don't wait, hey hey, you're gonna get back to working out. | ||
| You don't have to do an hour. | ||
| Actually start with 10 minutes. | ||
| Start with 10 minutes. | ||
| Super light. | ||
| Literally 10 minutes. | ||
| You don't want to do much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Push-ups, keep it fine, sit-ups, body weight squats, that's it. | ||
| Feel feel the difference. | ||
| So you feel like stimulated. | ||
| You have energy. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Instead of like uh my my old trainer, I love him, Lou Perata. | ||
| He would say stimulate, don't annihilate. | ||
| He was the same way. | ||
| He's 60, he's 70 now. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Yeah, because that's the thing about being a meathead. | ||
| It's like your meat headedness can actually get in the way of progress. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like you can actually l learn better if you're not exhausted, right? | ||
| But there's like a lot of jujitsu schools that have you do shit like when I used to train at Carlson Gracie's, the warm-up was so brutal. | ||
| By the time you got to actually training, that was like a break. | ||
| It was a break. | ||
| You know, I don't have to fucking do somersaults over and over again. | ||
| You would do all these different body weight things. | ||
| They would do like duck walks and bear claw crawls, but the their idea was hey, you should be fit enough that you could do all this shit and it's easy, and then you start training, and then you're fit to train, and it'll help your training. | ||
| And there's they're right. | ||
| They're right. | ||
| However, if you're trying to teach people something, the worst way to teach them is when they're exhausted. | ||
| So if you can say like Carl Gotch, famously, the he's a famous catch wrestling guru who was a great wrestler back in like God, I think it was like the 50s and 60s, back when catch wrestling was legit. | ||
| Like they would they would write. | ||
| What is catch wrestling? | ||
| It's an American style submission wrestling that a lot of these submissions actually, you know, when you you think about um, is that Ken Shamrock and stuff? | ||
| No, Ken Shamrock Ken Shamrock had a little bit of that for sure. | ||
| You know, Ken Shamrock was m he was a hybrid. | ||
| You know, he did a lot of training in Japan and he did he was a leg lock guy before anybody was. | ||
| Like Ken Shamrock won some of the early UFCs with heel hooks. | ||
| Nobody even knew what the fuck was going on. | ||
| Um he was also a massive human being, too. | ||
| That was part of it. | ||
| Like Ken Shamrock was fucking jacked. | ||
| He was so strong. | ||
| Um but their whole thing was all about conditioning. | ||
| Like the Lion's Den, they had this famous crucible they would put recruits through. | ||
| Like if you wanted to train with the lion's den, you had to go straight. | ||
| You'd have go through hell. | ||
| They had this crazy like bud style strength and conditioning routine. | ||
| Then you had to spar everybody. | ||
| You had to spar the whole team and they beat the fuck out of each other. | ||
| Because back in those days, nobody knew what sp sparring light was all about. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like everybody like knock each other out and everybody beat the fuck out of each other. | ||
| So it's like, but that's not you produce animals when you do that, but you're not gonna produce the most technical guys from most of the people. | ||
| Most of the most technical guys, the what they they think of there's two, you have to compartmentalize two different things. | ||
| Like toughness, like in training, if you're doing cardio, if you're doing hill sprints, if you're doing you know, live drills, there's toughness, but then there's also you you gotta really know technique. | ||
| And technique is the king of all when it comes to MMA. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But in jujitsu, it's even more important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In MMA, it's even more important because there's more aspects to the game. | ||
| And if you're like, did you see the UFC this weekend? | ||
| Did you see Oliveira versus Gamron? | ||
| No. | ||
| Bro, it was a tour de force of Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Really? | ||
| The moment Gamrock, because Gamrod is a sick wrestler. | ||
| Metal Scamrod, he's a nasty wrestler. | ||
| Where is he from? | ||
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Like that part of the world that you're terrified of. | |
| Um, I don't want to miss be the the the old country, the hills. | ||
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| Poland. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Hard ass motherfucker. | ||
| Beast beast of a wrestler. | ||
| I mean, just a fucking animal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He took Charles Oliveira down right away and was immediately in terrible trouble. | ||
| Like every step of the way. | ||
| He's get he was getting Oma Plotted and triangled and this and that and all of Vera just dominated him on the ground. | ||
| And then when it comes to stand up, well, Alveira is better at stand-up than him. | ||
| So they go on the feet and Gamrat's fucked. | ||
| He's getting lit up on the feet by Oliveira, and then Oliveira takes him down and strangles him, takes his back and chokes him out because I leveled the first guy to ever finish Gamera. | ||
| But it just showed the importance of technique. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Technique, finishing technique, not just holding technique and taking guy down technique, which Gamrod has a fuckload of. | ||
| But he doesn't have the jiu-jitsu technique that Oliver has. | ||
| But he could have. | ||
| He could have had that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As good a wrestler as he is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If that guy just dead and Eddie Bravo used to say this years and years and years ago. | ||
| He was like, if these wrestlers, they all want to study like anti-Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| They all want to take everybody down and have you know top avoid the jujitsu, avoid the submissions. | ||
| That's what they concentrate on the most. | ||
| He's like, instead of just learning all those submissions and just annihilating people. | ||
| But they in their mind they were competing against Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| So it was like the wrestlers had a show, we're the toughest. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We're gonna get on top and five. | ||
| My tribe is better than your tribe. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And Eddie was like, if they could just abandon that and fall in love with jujitsu, they'd be the most dangerous people alive. | ||
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| Because they're already the best. | ||
| That's so interesting, and that makes total sense. | ||
| Total learn learning the learning your enemy. | ||
| Like really learning. | ||
| Stop being on a team. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're you're trying to be a fighter. | ||
| If you're an MMA fighter, stop this I represent Taekwondo shit. | ||
| Like, no, you don't. | ||
| You're just you know, you have to do it. | ||
| Well, you and I talk about that. | ||
| Don't let the fact that you have an idea in your head. | ||
| See, we all have the we've we both formed these ideas. | ||
| A lot of those ideas are informed by where I am emotionally to begin with. | ||
| I'm defending something. | ||
| Typically, I'm gonna be defending uh how I grew up, my parents, uh what's worked for me. | ||
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My city. | |
| All that shit. | ||
| You know, yeah, my culture. | ||
| And uh what happens is you get a you you start identifying with your ideas, and it's just an idea. | ||
| So be open to having your mind changed based on evidence. | ||
| Well, just don't be married to your ideas, that's for sure. | ||
| But the most important thing is like think about Bruce Lee, right? | ||
| What did he figure out? | ||
| He figured out before anybody, absorb what is useful. | ||
| Take from all martial arts. | ||
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| You know, you don't have to call it a new thing anymore because Jeet Kune Do is what we're all doing, really. | ||
| If you're doing MMA, you're doing Jeet Kune Do. | ||
| You're doing what he he's he just said, take a little bit of everything that works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No matter what it is. | ||
| But also like technique, like when you watch how they bring boxers up, like Virgil Hunter, you know, in his camp, Andre Berto and Andre Ward. | ||
| Man, the to watch how they like the the old school boxers, I love watching them. | ||
| I love watching how they train. | ||
| Like they will they do stuff like everything you do, like this guy, Coach Anthony, people like that. | ||
| If you watch them, everything is considered. | ||
| And you work on your jab, you work on uh how to set that jab up. | ||
| Gordon Ryan talks about that too, like with jujitsu. | ||
| Start on the bottom, start on the bottom. | ||
| How's your half guard? | ||
| What's it like? | ||
| How do you get out of amount? | ||
| Get start your your your entire uh repertoire, your technique at the worst part and understand that. | ||
| But with with boxing, when you watch like footwork, it's all footwork, man. | ||
| It's such a different thing. | ||
| It's like how you step, where you punch from. | ||
| I don't know if it's Canelo Alvarez versus Terrence Crawford. | ||
| Crawford always had his foot on the outside. | ||
| He was in perfect position, defense was flawless. | ||
| I love watching that. | ||
| That is a master class. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| It was a master class because there was one point in the fight where Terrence was pity patting them. | ||
| So what he'll do is he'll pity pat you and then load up with big shots. | ||
| But he was so dominant that he could stand in front of Canelo Alvarez, who's one of the most feared boxers, one of the greats of all time of the sport, no doubt. | ||
| And Terrence Crawford is sitting in front of him going pap whip. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Just it was crazy. | ||
| I was like, look at it, he's pity patting him, which is almost disrespectful. | ||
| Well, do you know what this is? | ||
| You know what Alvarez Alvarez said, he goes, I couldn't figure him out. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| I couldn't figure out that's what I think fighting it's at the highest level. | ||
| It's it's two people try to solve like what are these patterns you're doing? | ||
| How can I cut you off at that at before you finish that pattern? | ||
| Duran used to people would say when they fought Duran, they would say he's he's reading my mind. | ||
| And they would say he's reading my mind because he knew he could see what you were doing. | ||
| He'd been there. | ||
| He's like, I know where you're going with this. | ||
| He's also so raw, he might have been reading your mind. | ||
| Fuck man. | ||
| He was such a savage. | ||
| In his early days, like people see Duran. | ||
| You see Duran like when he fought Davy Moore and Iran Barkley and those guys. | ||
| That's a Duran that's 30 plus pounds over his best fighting weight. | ||
| His best fighting weight was 135. | ||
| Dude, he fought and Barkley was a Iran Barkley was I think uh fought at 67, maybe even bigger, and he fought him at that weight. | ||
| Yeah, he and he knocked him out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go see if you can find Roberto Duran versus Ken Buchanan. | ||
| This is when he won the lightweight title when he was young and like super skinny before way before he fought Leonard. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's probably a black white fight. | ||
| He was a fucking badger, dude. | ||
| Just a ferocious man with excellent technique. | ||
| That's what poverty tearing people apart. | ||
| That's what not having enough food, literally in Panama does to you. | ||
| Yeah, and also a long history of combat sports in Panama as well. | ||
| This is like it's not like uh a unique thing to be a boxer in Panama. | ||
| So you're dealing with iron sharp. | ||
| It's iron, excellent technique. | ||
| Oh, it is in color. | ||
| He was so beautiful. | ||
| But boy, look how shitty it looks. | ||
| What year is this? | ||
| 72? | ||
| It's upscaled, so it's this is upskilled. | ||
| This is what every UFO video is. | ||
| Bro, he was so good. | ||
| Look how skinny he is. | ||
| Wow, it's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, bro. | ||
| When you when you when you are a real boxer like that, that's what you do. | ||
| You just you don't look muscle bound. | ||
| Well, in his defense, I mean, he was a young man and he was but he was a lot thicker when he fought Leonard at 47. | ||
| He looked a lot better. | ||
| He's got a Brian Cowan body, that's what I like about it. | ||
| Uh but he had him low a lot as well. | ||
| He was very rough. | ||
| Like in the in-fighting occasionally he would great, great in fighter. | ||
| Probably knew where the referee was, too. | ||
| You know, back then there was no instant replay. | ||
| Ken B. Kennan was very good too. | ||
| You ever see me getting a boxing lesson from Sugar Ray Leonard in in Sylvester Stallone's house? | ||
| You ever see that? | ||
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| No, we're watching really good boxing. | ||
| I don't know why you're even like. | ||
| Sorry, great. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Oh, he got caught there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, Ken B. Cannon was legit. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I mean, there's a crazy fight, but these are. | ||
| Was he said 35? | ||
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| And this was for the lightweight title. | ||
| It's it was a crazy scrap of a fight, man. | ||
| Scoot ahead so you could watch someone like the later action. | ||
| Buchanan was something else, huh? | ||
| Oh, yeah, he was world champion. | ||
| You know, I never heard of him until just now. | ||
| He was a tough guy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Is he wearing a I'm pretty sure that's how Duran won the title. | ||
| I don't think Duran was defending the title. | ||
| I think Dur Duran Look at that shot. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Bro, when you watch these guys and you think about like how long it takes to get this good at boxing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How much time had no he wasn't that old? | ||
| I'm saying I'm saying But how much time spent like trying to under fire figure out when to connect to someone's face. | ||
| No, I was saying grip to the body. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Uh Crawford said, This this has been a 30-year career. | ||
| He's been fighting for 30 years. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| If you think about it. | ||
| Well, and also Terrence Crawford's been fighting smart for 30 years. | ||
| He doesn't get hit a lot. | ||
| That's like um Which is nuts. | ||
| That's Guy Hopkins. | ||
| Hopkins never got hurt. | ||
| I mean, until he saw fought Joe Smith and got knocked out of the ring. | ||
| He was fell on his head. | ||
| Fifty with a gray beard. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Fifty by the way, fought from 40 to 50. | ||
| What nobody could beat him in a division that required speed. | ||
| Never got hit. | ||
| He's a genius. | ||
| Yeah, he's one of the all right. | ||
| He's to me, like people talk about what the greatest athletes and stuff. | ||
| They never talk about what he was able to accomplish at his age in that division. | ||
| That's that has to be part of the conversation. | ||
| Well, by the time he fought Felix Trinidad, people thought he was done already. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| That was I think he was 36 at the time when he knocked out Trinidad. | ||
| People thought he was over. | ||
| And then, you know, he just have you had him on this podcast? | ||
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| Yeah, he's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I'm a huge fan of that guy. | ||
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God. | |
| So smart. | ||
| And um, you know, his lessons from prison too. | ||
| He's like, I'm never going back. | ||
| And they they said to him when he's leaving, we'll see you soon. | ||
| He was like, No, no, no, not me, bitch. | ||
| And just live. | ||
| He used to run with a tennis ball, apparently. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's obsession. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's how you become a Bernard Hopkins. | ||
| That's how you get out of where you are, too. | ||
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| Exactly. | ||
| You gotta plan your escape. | ||
| The thing about Terrence, though, is like Terrence is like an artist. | ||
| Like what he did in there, it's like, God, I go watch clips from that fight over and over again, probably for decades. | ||
| He's an artist. | ||
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| Like what he's doing in there, it's like he's like not just beating you. | ||
| He's he's beating Canelo Alvarez and kind of making him look a little silly and doing it with the highest stakes humanly possible with a guy that can break your face with one punch. | ||
| I mean he's missiles are headed his way. | ||
| And he's like, Nope. | ||
| I know. | ||
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| Bam. | ||
| He hit him so many times where Canelo had whiffed and then he would counter. | ||
| It's like, God, that's so pretty. | ||
| That's so pretty because like to be in the in the fire. | ||
| So like there's guys that could move real good and they were really hard to hit, like Willie Pep. | ||
| You know, Willie Pep had crazy footwork. | ||
| Mayweather. | ||
| Mayweather, but stand right in front of you though. | ||
| It's a bad example. | ||
| Because what I'm saying is like these guys that are hard to hit that aren't moving. | ||
| They're right in front of you, and you can't hit them. | ||
| That's Mayweather. | ||
| Like, but there's guys that were they were hard to hit, but they were real mobile. | ||
| Like Michael Venom Page in MMA is a great example. | ||
| You can't hit that. | ||
| So beautiful. | ||
| She's moving in and out so fast. | ||
| Like you can't. | ||
| I heard he was at the mothership. | ||
| Yeah, he wasn't. | ||
| I was there, but I missed him. | ||
| See, look at this. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I mean, look at these there's missiles coming his way. | ||
| Bro, he's so slick. | ||
| Like every time Canelo would show up. | ||
| You see him catch that body shot with his elbow? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You're not touching it. | ||
| Catch it and then fire right back. | ||
| And he did get tagged a couple times. | ||
| But even there, as Canelo rushes in, he gets popped. | ||
| You make one mistake with Canelo though, you're you're going out. | ||
| Like that's that marginalized error. | ||
| And he catches it. | ||
| That is so pretty. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| And to do that, two weight classes above his the normal weight. | ||
| That is a one weight class above the previous world championship that he held. | ||
| Meanwhile, he was 187. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
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| Oh no. | ||
| Listen, man, when I talked to him, it was I talked to him on the podcast a couple of years ago before and he wanted this fight really bad. | ||
| How thick was he? | ||
| It was normal size, you know, but he did it the right way. | ||
| He took a long time in between fights. | ||
| He did a lot of deadlifts and a lot. | ||
| There's a lot of like strength and conditioning videos of him where you see him like really working hard and really like put on quality mass where he did it slowly over the you know, he didn't get roided up and then just gain a bunch of muscle. | ||
| It's useless. | ||
| He did it smoothly and slowly, so he kept all of his skills, but now he had more size and now he had more strength. | ||
| All skills, all speed, everything was still there. | ||
| Because that's an illusion, too. | ||
| People think you're gonna get slower if you get bigger. | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| That's it depends on you're not gonna get unless you get really crazy bodybuilder big, like Mr. Olympia big. | ||
| But Vander Holyfield didn't slow down when he moved up to heavyweight. | ||
| He actually got more fit and picked up his punching power. | ||
| You know, it's like you can put on muscle and you can get stronger and still be fast. | ||
| And Terrence totally showed that in that fight. | ||
| That fight was just that's that's what boxing is really all about. | ||
| Yeah, I love it's like boxing is one of the few, it's such an honest place in this crazy world where I don't know where the fuck the truth is. | ||
| Like I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's true. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| That's a problem with MMA too. | ||
| It is. | ||
| But that's that even that is a little bit like I've been pretty good at predicting after the fight, kind of going, I think this guy won. | ||
| You know, it used to be a few. | ||
| He was only if he didn't win the last two rounds, he would have lost that fight. | ||
| Well, Canelo is so loved him, you know. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, in terms of like a judge. | ||
| You're you you shouldn't be looking at how much someone's loved. | ||
| You should be looking at of course everybody loves Canelo. | ||
| I wonder though I love Canelo. | ||
| But once he gets into the ring, you have to judge him on his performance in the ring, period. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I know, but you know, human beings. | ||
| You love somebody, you already have a lot of people. | ||
| I know corruption, Brian. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know Vegas odds. | ||
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| I know gambling. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| There is a lot you have to take into consideration. | ||
| A lot of these people live in Vegas. | ||
| You don't think they know fucking degenerate Gamblers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't think they owe money. | ||
| You don't think maybe something's going on. | ||
| Like a lot of these guys, like and gals, by the way. | ||
| They were connected to super shady people back in the day. | ||
| And decisions were fucked with. | ||
| Do you remember that site? | ||
| Gambling odds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was that when Bradley remember uh? | ||
| Many Pacquiao, too. | ||
| Bradley. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, that same lady, she also she she'd scored a few that were like, what? | ||
| But that was a big one. | ||
| That was a big one. | ||
| But that's also you have to think of that when you see a g a big fucking decision like that where it's funky. | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| If I was a gambler, like all you have to do is get one person, say if you're betting on a split decision. | ||
| You have to just one person in the bag. | ||
| You just got one person that scores it the other way no matter what, and you give that person 200 grand, and now you're gonna make 20 million. | ||
| That's real. | ||
| Like people do stuff like that. | ||
| At least they have in the past. | ||
| Of course they have. | ||
| Well, let me ask you this. | ||
| As you, you know, as with with AI and as as we get better and better at these videos that you can't tell whether it's real or not. | ||
| You know, I really wonder It is good. | ||
| Maybe just stop looking. | ||
| That's that's what I was thinking. | ||
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| We're wasting our fucking lives staring at that's right. | ||
| That mine that's what my whole special is about. | ||
| It's called false gods because that be that has become that is what we're bent over in prayer with. | ||
| We're always looking at it all the time. | ||
| That dopamine scroll, right? | ||
| We're just a nation of drug addicts. | ||
| If there's a drug that made you stare at your hand all day, fucked it. | ||
| Literally the theme of what I wrote about 'cause I was like, I I'm I find myself like I I find myself going, I'm not gonna look at my phone, and then I get sucked in, and there's fun, good things to watch, whether it's old interviews, whether it's snippets of this, but it's a highlight reel, man. | ||
| It's like mining for gold though in a really shitty spot. | ||
| Like you're not getting a lot of gold. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| Every now and then you get a little gold flake, some funny meme. | ||
| Ah, and then I'll send it to all my friends. | ||
| But I find out the really funny ones, they make it to me anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the that's what I really want. | ||
| I really want the funny things. | ||
| So the funny things like funny memes and shit like that, they'll make it to me, no matter what. | ||
| You know what I've done? | ||
| I was I was listening to a political podcast, my buddy walked by, said something so cool, because he's done really well in life, and he goes, He goes, Are you listening to the weather again? | ||
| And I was like, Fuck man, I am. | ||
| I'm either listening because I want somebody to confirm my bias, or I'm listening because I w maybe want to hear something I kind of already know, or it'll be a different twist that somehow in my mind I can use as an argument against somebody I already disagree with you. | ||
| It's all that shit, right? | ||
| I listen to I I'm fucking reading novels now. | ||
| I'm not doing it anymore. | ||
| I'm fucking done. | ||
| Well, novels. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm just I I my problem is I don't think you do this at all, but I do know there are people you can make a lot of money in the podcast space in the influencer space if you draw strong good guy, bad guy narratives. | ||
| And if you can make those narratives biblical, please. | ||
| Now you're really in the money. | ||
| And I I I'm always wary of that. | ||
| I'm always wary of that reductionist kind of idea that bring I do think there are sometimes there are good guys and bad guys. | ||
| I think there is good and evil. | ||
| I think that's worth a worthy conversation to have. | ||
| But man, you gotta be careful about getting sucked into those narratives because sometimes it's not that simple. | ||
| Well, it's also what we were talking about earlier, people that aren't good at anything in their life, and their life gets captured by whatever team they're on, whether they're Democrats or Republicans. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And that becomes your whole identity. | ||
| So how do you avoid it? | ||
| Don't be a retard. | ||
| Jesus Christ, it's a rigged game. | ||
| It's a rigged game, and you're gonna jump in with your dick in your hand. | ||
| Like, what are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| Don't be a real thing. | ||
| People always want me to say I'm a Republican or say I'm a Democrat. | ||
| Like I am I mostly think in a left way, mostly. | ||
| But I also am a firm believer in discipline and human nature, personal responsibility, personal responsibility and willpower. | ||
| I think willpower is a real thing. | ||
| I've lived my whole life with it. | ||
| I I know what it is. | ||
| And so to pretend that it's not, and some people, you know, they don't just need to get their fucking shit together. | ||
| That's not that's not helpful for them. | ||
| It's not really kind and compassionate because it's not being honest with them. | ||
| By telling people they're fine the way they are. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| You know, you should be on a goal of constant self improvement. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Doesn't mean you have to be an asshole. | ||
| You know, and that's the other thing. | ||
| People that are weak bitches, they always want to Conflate being disciplined and having personal responsibility with being an asshole. | ||
| No, you can be a really nice person and still you know you don't you don't have to be a shithead just because you take care of yourself and you're healthy. | ||
| It's like this is a scam. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's uh it's a cover that weak bitches. | ||
| I know you're less inslamed than me, but let's calm down, you know. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like people just get so tribal, and the reason why they do it is because they don't have anything else in their life. | ||
| They don't have anything that's really important and interesting in their life. | ||
| And so they get like completely captured by politics. | ||
| You see this now with like um you gotta give Trump some credit for bringing peace to a part of the world where you know that's been at war since Moses had a parting of the ways with the Pharaoh. | ||
| Yeah, and it was a lot. | ||
| They had to give up a lot, right? | ||
| They had to give up. | ||
| How many Palestinian prisoners did they have? | ||
| 250? | ||
| And a lot of them are, you know, those poor Israelis that have been there for two years, and what has happened to those people during that time. | ||
| But look, imagine being an Israeli prisoner and you're in Gaza and they're just sh starving and digging your own grave shelling the fuck out of that place for two years and never thinking you're gonna get home to your family again. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| So are they released now? | ||
| Have they been released? | ||
| All twenty living hostages have been released. | ||
| Some of them are in really bad condition, so they don't want to show them to on camera because they've got to be starving to death. | ||
| Yeah, they're right in the hospital. | ||
| Well, they're probably never gonna be the same again. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know, that's that's the thing about starving to death. | ||
| It's like your organs have massive damage. | ||
| Like I I knew this guy. | ||
| But Hollywood's quiet. | ||
| His dad had been captured in Vietnam and uh tortured and starved, and he was never the same again physically. | ||
| Even after he came back and put the weight back on, like he's his body was fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| From the torture from and from the starvation. | ||
| And the stress, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| It's just amazing that he survived. | ||
| No sunlight living in a tunnel for two years. | ||
| Well, you know. | ||
| Whatever whatever Trump had to do to do this, what's fascinating is watching people's reaction where they don't want to reluctantly give him credit for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's not just this. | ||
| He's he's negotiated multiple peace agreements between African countries that have been at war for decades. | ||
| And this is just one more that he's done on top of that. | ||
| And it's like people can't get past what they they think of him in terms of the bluster or maybe the Epstein files, or this like look. | ||
| There's no perfect person that's gonna be president. | ||
| And pr to pretend it's Barack Obama is crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you really look at Barack Obama's what his legacy and what he actually brought to the United States in terms of punishment of whistleblowers, drone deaths, some fucking crazy number, like plus eighty percent of the people who killed by drones were innocent. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| But but that doesn't mean he wasn't a great spokesman and a great representative of America, because he certainly was, because he was brilliant and articulate and just seemed calm and measured and all those things are great. | ||
| But the reality is this fucking country is bought and paid for by huge financial interests who would like us to go bomb places because they make bombs. | ||
| They make weapons, and those weapons cost a fuckload of money, and they come up with all sorts of cute reasons why we should go fuck up Yemen. | ||
| And have you had Lindy Lee on your podcast? | ||
| No, but I was gonna get to this point. | ||
| But also, you have to have weapons because the rest of the world is fucked. | ||
| So it's like you have to have this balanced perspective on this stuff. | ||
| Like we won't we don't want war. | ||
| We should never want war. | ||
| You should celebrate a president that is core idea is no more war. | ||
| So people like, yeah, but he bombed Iran, right? | ||
| I think you had to. | ||
| I think it was like one of those one of these things with Israel with a negotiator. | ||
| Who's an opportunity? | ||
| I'll I'll bomb the site, I'll tell them to leave. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Because, you know, Israel's just bombing the shit out of Gaza, and they're like, they don't care about human shields, and they're like, fuck you, you guys you attacked us, it's over, we're gonna wipe you out. | ||
| So this guy is what he's done is if it sticks. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| Does it stick? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, they've always they've come to m multiple peace agreements in the past. | ||
| Didn't Hamas assass murder literally 32 members of one family because they were collaborating, quote unquote, with Israel in the street. | ||
| Do you see that? | ||
| I shot him in the head. | ||
| They shot a few guys. | ||
| I saw a few more. | ||
| It was more than a few. | ||
| Well, I only saw one where there was the three guys they shot in front of everybody. | ||
| And they probably were. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| The Mossad and the IDF are brilliant. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The reason why they got all those pagers to those guys and then blew their dicks off. | ||
| It's because they're fucking geniuses. | ||
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| The reason why they invented Pegasus. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The ability to just listen to your fucking phone, read all your text messages, get all your dick pics. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| All that stuff. | ||
| Because they're brilliant. | ||
| And the of course they infiltrate every organization. | ||
| They infl that's how they get all their information. | ||
| They literally have a soldier that is so dedicated to Israel that they give their life to go pretend to be Hamas and probably even commit terror, just so that they can be legit. | ||
| And then that person will feed all the information to Israel. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I mean, you have to have like the people who love Israel, one like I h you know, you could be one of those people like I hate Zionists, I hate Zionism, I hate what they've done. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But what they are doing is the like most black belt version of tribalism. | ||
| The most black belt version. | ||
| Because they're because they have to. | ||
| Well, because every threat for Israel is existential. | ||
| One of the things I think the strength of Israel, the fact fascinating idea because when Trump made a speech at the Knesset, BB Netanyahu was booed by a lot of Israelis, and Trump was hailed. | ||
| And the point of that is that Israel is a democracy where they're constantly arguing with each other. | ||
| There's there's there's constant debate. | ||
| And your your job, if you're prime minister or whatever, is always precarious because there are people who are always going to be critical and they'll be Israelis. | ||
| Whereas there isn't this sort of monolithic sort of idea. | ||
| Like the Knesset has but the one thing that unifies Israelis, no matter what, they'll debate. | ||
| And you want to talk about the the war in Gaza and how it was per prosecuted. | ||
| But don't make one mistake. | ||
| You fucking when when they're threatened with their existence, you you want to threaten the existence of Israel, they'll unify right quick. | ||
| And they'll they'll fucking blow up pagers. | ||
| They got a thousand ways to get to you. | ||
| Because they have to do that. | ||
| The point is they they do infiltrate those organizations. | ||
| And they do do that. | ||
| However, why were you smiling just now? | ||
| Because I just sent Jamie a funny meme. | ||
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Oh. | |
| I'll send one. | ||
| I'll show you one that's more offensive that we can't show on the air, but this one's one of my favorites. | ||
| Oh, I saw that. | ||
| I think you sent that to me. | ||
| I did. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| I that's see that keep this Israel be like we took out Hamas. | ||
| They shouldn't be laughing, but that's fucking ridiculous. | ||
| Bro, it's funny. | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| Listen, this is you want to live, you want to live your life. | ||
| You can you gotta you can't decide what's funny. | ||
| You gotta laugh. | ||
| There's that's funny. | ||
| I'm not mocking anyone's death, and I'm I'm I think it's a terrible thing that it happened at all. | ||
| But it's also there's you know, this is the Charlie Cork question when Charlie Kirk was on Patrick Bet David. | ||
| It's like, why did it take so long for them to respond? | ||
| Was there a stand down order? | ||
| Was there like so pe people get all conspiratorial with stuff like that? | ||
| Then things get real weird because there is this thing that we don't want to believe, but we do know is true that there are certain groups in this world that are very motivated to have a war. | ||
| And you no one wants to believe that. | ||
| No one everyone wants to believe the only reason to have a military is because we're the just righteous great country of the United States of America, and we don't do anything unless we're defending ourselves or defending some other democracy that's being destroyed by communism or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| We like to think that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's not totally real. | ||
| And Smedley Butler figured that out in 1933 when he wrote War as a racket. | ||
| And that's still today. | ||
| The idea that in 2025 that that's not the case anymore, that would be very naive. | ||
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Right. | |
| People And it's not just America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They profit from instability. | ||
| They profit and then they it also Bill Clinton literally said that BB, and this is Bill Clinton's words. | ||
| BB Netanyahu wants there to be a war, so he stays in power. | ||
| He said that. | ||
| Bill Clinton did recently. | ||
| He's like, fuck it, I'm old. | ||
| I'm gonna start telling the truth. | ||
| Tell somebody. | ||
| By the way, I love getting my dick sucked. | ||
| Can I tell you that's one of the number one reason why I became president? | ||
| They all wanted to suck it. | ||
| Everybody wanted to suck it once I was in that office. | ||
| They did, they did. | ||
| So I fucked up and I got one girl with a big mouth. | ||
| She was a little young. | ||
| I fucked up. | ||
| I got crazy. | ||
| Left a spot on her dress. | ||
| But he's he was saying this, and I guess he was just saying, look, look, the Epstein files are coming out. | ||
| Let me just fucking get real. | ||
| Let me just get real. | ||
| What do you if I gun to your head? | ||
| What do you think your best assessment of what uh Epstein who who was Epstein was he working for? | ||
| Well, I don't know, right? | ||
| So I'm just guessing. | ||
| Um everybody wants to say he was working for the Mossad, he very well could have been. | ||
| He could have been worker for the CIA. | ||
| He could have been a guy who was on his own but also working with them, right? | ||
| Like a guy that they used but they never fully endorsed. | ||
| Like an asset. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And a guy who could move money around. | ||
| He definitely could at laundering money. | ||
| The moving money around stuff was very weird because he had money through no way that anybody could ever explain. | ||
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| He had an enormous amount of money through no way that nobody could ever explain. | ||
| Which, you know, if you're a state funded, you're funded by Israel and Israel's funded by America, and you know, there's also NGOs and nonprofits, and there's ways to move money around where you can give this guy money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he was like Weinstein, who is an economist, right? | ||
| Einstein's a legitimate mathematician. | ||
| Eric. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when Eric met him, the his first m inclination was he was a fraud. | ||
| He's a construct. | ||
| Yeah, a construct. | ||
| And did he tell you the whole story about the girl sitting on his lap? | ||
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| So the Epstein, while he's meeting with uh Eric Weinstein for the first time, has a beautiful girl sitting on his lap, and he a woman. | ||
| I shouldn't say girl. | ||
| She was he said she was like tw in her twenties. | ||
| And she's sitting on his lap and he's bouncing around, so her tits are juggling around. | ||
| He's asking math questions. | ||
| Yeah, talking serious. | ||
| So he was obviously nerd fishing. | ||
| He was fishing for nerds, and I think he caught a lot of nerds in that net. | ||
| There's a lot of those guys that wound up going to that island, they probably thought, This is great, we get to party. | ||
| Nothing's free. | ||
| And they probably felt like they were rock stars because they get to hang out with the intellectual elite on an island with a guy who is just a billionaire philanthropist who's eccentric, who just loves women. | ||
| He's a professed bachelor, and it all seemed too good to be crew. | ||
| Because it was. | ||
| So he was, I think he was an asset, whether or not it was for the Mossad strictly or Israel strictly, or the United States strictly, whether it was a CIA thing, whatever. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I think it was a probably a part of a black male comp compromise effort. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because those guys, I there's a fucking dirty secret about these people that are in Congress, and they party. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They're regular guys. | ||
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| And regular women, and they're in their 30s or 40s or whatever they are, and every now and then they do coke and they get drunk and they killed it. | ||
| Human beings. | ||
| Remember that DC madam that had a whole book of people, and then she wound up committing suicide. | ||
| She said, I'm not suicidal, and yeah. | ||
| Because there's probably a lot like that. | ||
| And those kind of honeypot operations, they let these freaks know, like, hey, you're gonna be safe with me. | ||
| Charlie will take care of everything. | ||
| Look, Bill Clinton used to come here. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Yeah, we're gonna go to the Irish. | ||
| And that's a big endorsement. | ||
| It's like presidents were here, so it must be a secure area. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We are on the island with Bill. | ||
| This is fine. | ||
| And all these girls show up, and you're like, well, this is Christmas in July. | ||
| Bill is really interested in string theory. | ||
| He'd like to talk to you about string theory. | ||
| So you're sitting down there having cocktails while Bill Clinton's getting a massage from some girl who's rubbing her tits against the back of his head while she's massaging you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's like, Yeah, that's really interesting. | ||
| Hey, I'm gonna I'm kinda tired. | ||
| I'm gonna take a nap. | ||
| Another thing about black holes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think they all thought that it was this lovely exchange of powerful people and brilliant people, and then they were just getting dirt on all of them. | ||
| Guys cheating on their wives, guys, whether knowingly or unknowingly having sex with underage girls. | ||
| Everybody was maybe maybe some guys that was their thing. | ||
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| Because it seemed like with Epstein, that was his thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I think too. | ||
| That's I don't think there's any evidence to either. | ||
| I think it's all been. | ||
| I don't think there was collected with that plea deal. | ||
| And I don't think there's any list that's gonna point it. | ||
| There's no smoking gun. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I think it's all been, you know, taken care of. | ||
| I I think that it's I think you can open up every file. | ||
| But that's the truth. | ||
| Why did they have all those files? | ||
| What'd they parade around with these binders? | ||
| And say do you remember those photo ops that they said? | ||
| Like, look, they did like a thing. | ||
| We have the Epstein files right here and they had binders. | ||
| Like what what kind of political theater is that? | ||
| If you don't really have the Epstein files, it's probably theater. | ||
| And what I mean by that is I think like if they are keeping something quiet, it's because it's it's video of underage girls or it's video of the victims who don't want that to be out there. | ||
| And that's you can't the Justice Department cannot make that public. | ||
| They cannot they cannot bring that to Congress. | ||
| That's all sealed for their privacy, right? | ||
| Well, that is the argument. | ||
| But then they're saying now that there are no files. | ||
| They're saying there's no video. | ||
| Oh boy, I don't know. | ||
| I think they have video. | ||
| I think if you've got an island and you want compromise on people, you can't just have hearsay. | ||
| I would say I watched him fuck that girl. | ||
| Let's let's let's sue him. | ||
| No, that's not how it works. | ||
| You have to have video, and then you have to show it to the guy. | ||
| Like uh Mr. Clinton, have a seat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I would agree with that, except for I think if there is video, that's somewhere in the in the archives of an intelligence agency. | ||
| That's not getting out. | ||
| And I think uh when he had that plea deal in 2008, uh he got tipped off, remember. | ||
| And when the feds or whoever when I think it was the Florida police department came to kind of collect all the evidence in Palm Beach, uh those computers weren't there anymore. | ||
| So all that shit was scrubbed, all that shit was taken out. | ||
| So part of a plea deal is you don't you don't collect evidence. | ||
| There is no evidence. | ||
| You d you d when you have a plea deal, nobody is collecting any evidence. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| So it's not like we're gonna collect evidence. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The part of the plea deal is we are not this investigation is over. | ||
| You plead, you do your time uh in this jail where you have to you can go out and play golf during the day, but you have to come back and then you're gonna be able to do it. | ||
| No, he no, he was under home arrest. | ||
| He would only have to go there like a couple days a week. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He'd be in he'd have to go to the county jail in Palm Beach. | ||
| During the day, right. | ||
| So what that's what I'm saying is I think all that shit's a good thing. | ||
| I think he did like weekends in the jail. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| I think they allowed him to work. | ||
| Money talks, baby. | ||
| It's not just money talks, it's influence. | ||
| And the the guy who is the arresting sheriff was told this guy was intelligent. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he was told. | ||
| So I would assume that that guy's telling the truth because he's a sheriff, he's got no reason to lie, or whoever he was. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I think there's a lot of super powerful people that are very, very, very wealthy, and they have the ability to say whether or not things get out. | ||
| I think I think it's interesting how some ideas take root and and stay strong. | ||
| Like, you know, sometimes you'll just find that people will just all of a sudden everybody will start agreeing on one thing. | ||
| Like that whole transgender movement. | ||
| Like that just came out of nowhere in a way. | ||
| I mean, it'd been around, it'd been percolating, but it gets co-opted. | ||
| And then all of a sudden everybody is just foreign governments for sure involved. | ||
| I mean, to what extent. | ||
| You mean like bots and stuff like foreign foreign influence? | ||
| China. | ||
| China spent a lot of money pushing transgender ideology on America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um and this is not if you're a transgender person hearing this, it's not to deny you. | ||
| I'm just saying that what what China has done was push people further and further towards not just acceptance, but indoctrination. | ||
| And um I I think they also want outrage. | ||
| They want us fighting with each other about stuff. | ||
| So like they'll they'll push all kinds of crazy stuff. | ||
| Like one of the things that is really nuts that I used to bring up and people would say, This is ridiculous. | ||
| Who believes this? | ||
| It's that pedophilia is not a crime that is a sexual orientation. | ||
| This lady who's running for governor of California, this crazy lady. | ||
| Katie Porter that screams at her staff. | ||
| Get out of my fucking shot. | ||
| She's the worst. | ||
| She looks like the way she talks. | ||
| Like the way she talks when when the cameras are rolling and she doesn't think anybody's gonna see it? | ||
| Like what a monster. | ||
| But she did one of those interviews where she was talking about pedophilia and she was talking about minor attracted people. | ||
| You mean maps? | ||
| Yeah, see, I used to say that that they're talking about this in certain universities, and people like that is never going to go anywhere. | ||
| No one's gonna buy into that. | ||
| This lady's running for the governor of California, and she said that. | ||
| What is her exact quote on minor attracted persons or people that are but she was talking about criminalizing that? | ||
| Well, the idea can I tell you what the philosophy is there? | ||
| Because I've actually read about it. | ||
| Here's the idea. | ||
| You had you're a pedophile. | ||
| Which means, um, by the way, really weird thing. | ||
| You can look at this up, Jamie. | ||
| Uh, a lot of pedophile pedophiles are left-handed. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| Well, look out, lefties. | ||
| Well, the significance there is that it's neurological, right? | ||
| There's a there's a there's a condition in the brain, right? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you you're attracted to minors, it just happens to you, it's a curse. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| I see a seven-year-old or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Um the idea is this you have this affliction. | ||
| You might be a you might be a person who's otherwise uh pays his taxes, loves his mom, loves his friends. | ||
| But don't act on this thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now watch. | ||
| Now they have this overwhelming urge, the way somebody would have, say, if they're a gambler or whatever the fuck it is, and they have no one to talk to, because if they go to a therapist, the therapist has to tell the police. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So now you you have no one to talk to. | ||
| So the idea just this is the idea is if we destigmatize pedophilia and call it a minor attractive person, and and you're allowed to talk to a therapist without having to be incarcerated, the idea would be maybe they can get help and they won't touch kids because a professional can help them, etc. | ||
| etc. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| I understand the I understand the I guess philosophy behind that, but it's it we get into this very dangerous territory where everything becomes medicalized and everything becomes an excuse. | ||
| So all of a sudden we find out, and we may Sapolsky says this. | ||
| Maybe in 20 years we find out serial killers just had something wrong with their brain, and if we had the same lesion on our brain, we'd be the same way. | ||
| I uh you know. | ||
| But it doesn't mean you don't put those people away because they are a danger to society. | ||
| There's a guy in Austin who stabbed uh a bunch of people at the university, and I think it was in 2017, and he's getting released. | ||
| He killed a kid. | ||
| Yeah, you can't do that. | ||
| Killed a very promising musician. | ||
| Um he went to a mental institution. | ||
| Um so they they I think they said not guilty for reasons of insanity. | ||
| So this guy's been on his medication and he hasn't hallucinated in a couple of years, and so now they're releasing him from this mental institution to some sort of uh a home where they monitor them closely. | ||
| No, until you can actually cut out that part of the brain. | ||
| So what did she say? | ||
| Actual statement context. | ||
| So what is her statement? | ||
| So she she said that she didn't say that minor attractive persons are pedophilia is an identity, nor did she say it's not a crime. | ||
| She her actual comments have been repeatedly re misrepresented online. | ||
| Right, but I saw the video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um what did she say in the video? | ||
| She never said it's not a crime. | ||
| No, she was saying that her comments were solely focused on condemning baseless and dangerous rhetoric against LBG. | ||
| Well, why how is that LGBTQ? | ||
| She was saying that people were making uh equivalence between LGBTQ community and groomers. | ||
| But let's listen, let's listen to what she actually said. | ||
| See if you can find the video for saying it. | ||
| Because then we'll get more understanding of it. | ||
| Just use uh the AI and try oh, here's a just see if you can find a video. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's it. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wanted to start with um Miss Robinson, if I could. | ||
| Um your organization recently re uh released a report analyzing the five hundred most viewed, most influential tweets um that identified LGBTQ people as so-called groomers. | ||
| Um the groomer narrative is an age-old lie to position LGBTQ plus people as a threat to kids, and it what it does is deny them access to public spaces, it stokes fear and can even stoke violence. | ||
| Mr. Robinson, according to its own hateful content policy, does Twitter allow posts calling LGBTQ people groomers? | ||
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No. | |
| I mean, Twitter along with Facebook and many others Have community guidelines. | ||
| It's about holding users accountable to those guidelines and acknowledging that when we use phrases and words like rumors and pedophiles to describe people, individuals in our communities that are mothers, that are fathers, that are teachers, that are our doctors, it is dangerous. | ||
| And it's got one purpose. | ||
| It is to dehumanize us and make us feel like we are not a part of this American society. | ||
| And it has real life consequences. | ||
| So we are calling on social media companies to uphold their community standards. | ||
| And we're also calling on any American that's seeing this play out to hold ourselves and our community members accountable. | ||
| We wouldn't accept this in our families. | ||
| We wouldn't accept this in our schools. | ||
| There's no reason to accept it online. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I mean, I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| And it's not, you know, this allegation of groomer and pedophile. | ||
| It is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their identity. | ||
| Um that's what it is. | ||
| So it's taken out of context. | ||
| So it's connecting it's connecting gay people and trans people to pedophilia by calling them groomers. | ||
| That's why I'm important to watch her what she actually said instead of getting your fucking information in snippets from TikTok from other people who have opinions. | ||
| You're being game. | ||
| Well, this is why a lot of people like hated Charlie Kirk. | ||
| That's the same thing from those. | ||
| Well, yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But also could have been avoided, you know, by not saying it the way he said it. | ||
| Like there was some certain things that he said, like one of them when he was talking about um Katanji Brown Jackson, who's a Supreme Court justice who graduated from Harvard, Magda Cum Lottie. | ||
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Right. | |
| So like saying that you got what is the exact words he used. | ||
| Like you didn't have the intellectual ability to be taken seriously. | ||
| No, he said that DEI will put people in the world. | ||
| Right, but he was saying of power. | ||
| I know what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what I'm saying is his his saying what he said that was fucked was you took the spot from a white person. | ||
| Like I know what he's doing. | ||
| He was trying to make a point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he was trying to make a point that affirmative action that we should be living in a meritocracy. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that we shouldn't be having lower standards for people, but she didn't. | ||
| There's no evidence that she had any lower standards. | ||
| Part of the problem with Kentanji Brown Jackson is like you might disagree with her. | ||
| She's qualified. | ||
| Yeah, and I disagree. | ||
| When she when they asked her about what is a woman when she was getting confirmed, and she's like, uh, I'm not a biologist. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But you're a woman and you have kids. | ||
| So like cut the shit. | ||
| You're giving in to an ideology now. | ||
| You know what a woman is. | ||
| A woman is a biological female human being. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does that mean that there aren't men who feel like they're a biological female human being and they have gender dysphoria? | ||
| No, it doesn't mean that. | ||
| That's true too. | ||
| But when you ask me what a woman is, it's a biological female human being that is responsible for every fucking life that's on earth. | ||
| It's like it's a very important distinction. | ||
| I think every human being on earth came from a woman. | ||
| But this goes back to you and I talking about when you're busy and you're trying to you're running a business, you're building a brand, you're trying to write jokes, whatever it might be. | ||
| I don't have time. | ||
| It's like the rest of us are trying to I got kids and I got bills and I got a lot of stuff I have to do. | ||
| It's it's really hard to do everything. | ||
| So you watch a snippet on TikTok and then you get an opinion of someone. | ||
| I also don't have time. | ||
| What do you mean by pronouns? | ||
| Right now I'm I'm busy over here. | ||
| Like I Right. | ||
| But you're also not indoctrinated. | ||
| You didn't go to school in 2015. | ||
| You know, you went to school a long time ago. | ||
| Here's my theory. | ||
| I want to hear what you think of this. | ||
| I was thinking about this. | ||
| I think part of the transgender thing, at least in colleges and among and it's interesting how it took root in places of higher education. | ||
| I think what happened was there was currency in being a minority. | ||
| There was currency in being oppressed. | ||
| There's currency in being somebody who's marginalized and struggling. | ||
| There's there's there's something when you are not that, when you are not in those positions, there's when you're looking at it, somehow it got a little bit romanticized. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| Especially if you're an advantaged, advantaged uh white kid, then you can be non-binary. | ||
| Yeah, no skin in the game. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| You get to be a minority, and if you're black, brown, indigenous, you had to go through slavery hundreds of years of of brutal colonization. | ||
| But when you're white, you can be blonde hair, blue eyed, come from a great family, but you can be a minority on the same level as somebody who's black because you feel like it. | ||
| Because you, your your feeling, you have your feelings. | ||
| You feel like a minority. | ||
| Therefore, I don't have to pay a price for anything. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But I get to be on I get to be on the same level. | ||
| I can be a bigger minority than Dave Chappelle, who's a black man. | ||
| Because, you know, he's he's he's attacking me, so now I can attack him because I'm the most vulnerable minority. | ||
| And I think I hate to be cynical, but that's a big driver for a lot of people. | ||
| You know, I'm not saying that transgender people don't exist, but you think that's a good idea. | ||
| There's certainly that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's also this cultural narrative that supporting that makes you a good person on the right side of things. | ||
| Did you see the the debate? | ||
| They had a debate on Vice. | ||
| Vice does these weird debates, and the the way they did this one was very strange. | ||
| Uh it was about uh it was women uh and these feminists and uh and these other women that were talking about um trans people and whether or not trans people are women. | ||
| And it got super performative. | ||
| And here I'll said it to you. | ||
| I want to do this on my podcast. | ||
| It got super performative and su i it was like well, trans women are women. | ||
| Like that's not an argument. | ||
| Like the what you're saying, this lady has a point about sh showers and locker rooms and and competing in sports. | ||
| And this is to deny that this is a point here, play this. | ||
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Trans women be included in feminist conversations. | |
| How about in women's spaces? | ||
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Yes, they're women. | |
| Oh boy. | ||
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Yeah, what's the question? | |
| Trans women are women. | ||
| Um I want to come at this from the uh position. | ||
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Or perverts. | |
| Um so I play semi-pro basketball, semi-pro volleyball. | ||
| So when it comes to like athletic spaces, I don't think that trans women should be allowed into athletic spaces. | ||
| Because I don't think it's a fair um I think we as a female athletes, we work so incredibly hard for the little opportunity there is in women's sports. | ||
| Would this be a barrier for the bigger? | ||
| Like this, there's no barrier, there's less opportunity in some industries that's a barrier. | ||
| There's less it's not no, no, no, it's on the market. | ||
| Okay, hold on, hold on, guys. | ||
| So again, we work very hard for the the little opportunity that we're given. | ||
| And the problem is, like, it we can't compete. | ||
| We can't. | ||
| Like I I'm six foot. | ||
| If I go up against a six-foot guy and I play basketball with him, he's gonna body me. | ||
| And what have I been against you? | ||
| Even if even if I have years more of training. | ||
| And so it's like you're taking away the little opportunity that we're given and we all work so hard for will be the end of women's sports. | ||
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Have you tried confidence? | |
| You tried confidence. | ||
| Confidence can't make me bench what a guy benches. | ||
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I don't understand why you guys are so hostile. | |
| She's sharing her experience in a specific field. | ||
| And I'd have to go. | ||
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No, she's not. | |
| She's she's a woman who's no experience. | ||
| Kill it. | ||
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The what the woman who I watched that a long time ago. | |
| Dressed like a man with short hair, said she's translated. | ||
| That's not a that's a that's a trans man, by the way. | ||
| Oh, it's a man? | ||
| Yeah, that's a man who's now a woman. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| See, that I don't have a problem with. | ||
| Try that. | ||
| You could go ahead and do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That doesn't bother me at all. | ||
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No. | |
| Like if trans men want to invade men's spaces and pee next to us with a funnel, go for it. | ||
| I do not care at all. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because you can't rape me. | ||
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's the real problem with trans men is that men are creeps. | ||
| In especially in in female prisons and stuff. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Female prisons is a huge one. | ||
| Huge one. | ||
| But it's also just female locker rooms. | ||
| Like some guy with his dick hanging out is pretending he's a woman. | ||
| I thought that's real too. | ||
| There's trans women, and then there's perverts who enter into these spaces. | ||
| This is you given you've given them a Willy Wonka golden ticket. | ||
| It's like it's like pedophiles who found a a safe haven when they could put on a the the garb the robes of a priest. | ||
| And the crazy thing is like a lot of these things, like that one in LA with that uh the health club that was uh they got protested because they kicked trans woman out of the locker room. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Multiple times sex offender. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Multiple times sex offender. | ||
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What? | |
| That happens sometimes. | ||
| So someone who's a fucking freak who decides, oh, I'm a woman now, and I'm just gonna let my dick shine. | ||
| Just polish it up in front of these ladies. | ||
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Right. | |
| So you could just oil up your dick in front of, you know, some people who are just trying to get to yoga class. | ||
| I think that conversation's been won. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hasn't it? | ||
| Not totally. | ||
| Look at those ladies. | ||
| Trans women. | ||
| That's a while ago. | ||
| That was five years ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was it five years ago? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um I think though here's what I think is important. | ||
| But the question just that. | ||
| What are we saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's Katie Porter energy. | ||
| Yeah, like what? | ||
| That's the same energy. | ||
| They will they stop the conversation, right? | ||
| You gotta you gotta I don't want I'm not gonna talk to you, I've already made up my mind. | ||
| Well, that's a religion, though, right? | ||
| That's a religious person. | ||
| That's a religion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're you're going along party lines the same way you would, you know, by not eating things that are haram. | ||
| I try to I try to um I think that if you're gonna be like Haram's bad, right? | ||
| Halal. | ||
| Haram is a is an Arabic term for essentially against God in a way. | ||
| It's forbidden. | ||
| Haram, I think means forbidden. | ||
| But um that's how I said haram. | ||
| Is sucking dick's haram? | ||
| Well, only if you're if you're smiling, I think if you're frowning, you're allowed to. | ||
| I'm not sure how I'm saying. | ||
| You know what's really crazy? | ||
| The number one place uh in the world for the longest time where people got transgender surgeries was Iran. | ||
| And it wasn't because they were supportive of transgender people, it was because they were punishing gay people. | ||
| So the only Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So the only way to be a uh a gay man in a gay relationship, one of you motherfuckers is gonna have to lose a dick. | ||
| Now I wonder if that's true. | ||
| I heard that actually, and I wonder what that is it. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they they would punish horrifying to punish somebody that way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I don't know if it's still number one, but I think that's also the the origin of lady boys in Thailand. | ||
| I think a lot of them yeah. | ||
| I think it for a long time it was illegal to be gay in Thailand. | ||
| I saw some very looking at the city. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| If you're gonna be a g a trans person, being a small Asian really helps. | ||
| Not a Samoan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Bad bone structure. | ||
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Bad bone structure, sir. | |
| But the mountain is trans, it's a real is not gonna go well if Brian Shaw is not gonna make a pretty woman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Imagine him being on that volleyball team. | ||
| We have no high heat. | ||
| He's a woman. | ||
| I mean she, she's a woman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trans women are women. | ||
| What's the question? | ||
| Yeah, good luck. | ||
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What's the question? | |
| Good luck. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| You f you should be studied in a museum. | ||
| They should they're gonna one day they're gonna look at that lady and that ideology, like, look at this virus that infected these people's brains. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| But you know, but the I think like with the Charlie Kirk thing when people were celebrating, right? | ||
| Horrible. | ||
| But I I was saying, man, we better hold ourselves to it. | ||
| If you want to be somebody who's let's call I call myself a traditionalist or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Maybe I'm a little right to center, depending on the subject, maybe I'm left in this. | ||
| But I thought that was horrific. | ||
| But you gotta hold yourself to a high fucking standard. | ||
| Meaning, you know, Trayvon Vart Martin's killer, George Zimmerman, he signs autographs at gun shows. | ||
| He signs Skittles. | ||
| You know, I know they had a struggle and stuff, but that was a kid who was doing no crime at all. | ||
| Right, he was just being harassed by a guy who's playing a crap. | ||
| And and and and that guy's gun sold for something like 250,000. | ||
| So how do you think his family feels? | ||
| How do you think people on on that side? | ||
| So don't be a fucking hypocrite. | ||
| It's real easy to be a hypocrite. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I and what Charlie Kirk was guilty of doing nothing other than taking his ideas and pitting them against all comers. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if you disagree with those ideas, the real way to handle it is to address them. | ||
| Beat it with a better idea. | ||
| But the problem is most people don't have an opportunity to communicate with him. | ||
| And so they see these young kids communicating with him on these college campuses and him t trouncing these young kids, and you see things getting, you know, combative or argumentative, and then you see clips. | ||
| And so the clips, the little tiny ones, like you don't have the intellectual capacity to be taken seriously. | ||
| And so you you got to take your spot from a white person. | ||
| Like just that clip is a real problem because he didn't have to say it that way, but I know what he was trying to say. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He would what he should have said is a more qualified person because in reality, the people that get the discriminated the most in when it comes to particularly universities, are Asians. | ||
| So if you wanted to like have a a theory of white supremacy, that goes out the window when you look at standards that universities have because the people that they discriminate against the most are Asians. | ||
| Chinese. | ||
| Crush. | ||
| They crush Because they have old school immigrant mentality, as Joey Diaz likes to say. | ||
| You'll never see by the way, you will never see a Chinese or an Asian but Chinese Korean or Japanese person. | ||
| You'll never see them complain. | ||
| You will be able to do that. | ||
| Bobby's different things. | ||
| But Bobby's also hilarious. | ||
| A few made it through the net that will complain about it. | ||
| Bobby's a comic though. | ||
| Bobby's like a great comic, so it's different. | ||
| But it is, but I'm just joking. | ||
| But for the mo, yeah, for the most discipline is the part. | ||
| No. | ||
| But they are hard working. | ||
| Like as a group, they excel. | ||
| They're hard working people. | ||
| And they they rarely complain and they rarely protest. | ||
| So when they have to sue Harvard, it's probably because of something real. | ||
| And it turns out it was because of something real. | ||
| And it's not just Harvard, it's multiple universities have higher standards that they apply to Asian people because the Asian people work harder and because they don't want their school to be overrun by Asians. | ||
| But I say tough shit. | ||
| If you can't compete, this is a fucking meritocracy. | ||
| It's a meritocracy. | ||
| If it's a they did the same thing to Jews in in the 50s in Harvard. | ||
| All these Jews were getting into Harvard, they were like, we have to have a quota, there's going to be overrun with Jews. | ||
| But then there's also the reality that people that live in poor communities have way shittier schools and way less funding and way less hope, and that's bad for everybody. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I don't think the the solution is to let unqualified people in. | ||
| And this is like with affirmative action pissed a lot of people off. | ||
| I think the solution is find the root of the problem and tump pump a bunch of resources into cleaning up communities and making these schools better and making these communities better and coming up opening community centers and giving people a chance to get the fuck out of whatever give them some trades or skills or teach them sports or music or something that gives them hope that they can do outside of gang banging and selling crack. | ||
| And the the you know the thing that I always point to is that that could be you. | ||
| If you were born in that area, that would be you. | ||
| That's a human being that's trapped in this community. | ||
| I don't think the solution is take this guy who's got C's and give him a job over a guy who gets straight A's. | ||
| I think the solution is find out why this guy has C's, where did he come from? | ||
| Why has this place been ignored? | ||
| If we're real if if leaders are real leaders, why would you ignore the most disenfranchised people in the world unless you're using them as political pawns? | ||
| What you should do is try to figure out a way to make it profitable for businesses. | ||
| The same way Halliburton b pa like when we blew up Iraq, Halburton came in and made a shit ton of money rebuilding things. | ||
| Make it profitable to make these fucking communities safe again. | ||
| Make it profitable to rebuild. | ||
| But you have to start with telling the truth. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And people don't want to so you we can't even get out of the fucking gates. | ||
| So if I say something like the biggest problem in some communities, by the way, certain white communities, definitely in certain black communities, the biggest problem is fatherlessness. | ||
| If I say that, there are plenty of people that say that's that's we're we're already I'm already gonna push back because you're already being racist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Correct. | |
| It is a statistic. | ||
| It's like seventy percent. | ||
| So you know, that's one of many problems. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But y I had I never forgot when it comes back to Chinese stuff. | ||
| I remember when so if you look at what the Chinese did to Manchuria in the in the 30s, Iris Changer wrote a book about it. | ||
| I thought it was I think it was called The Rape of Nan King. | ||
| She did all the research. | ||
| I'm sorry, the Japanese, I'm sorry, the Japanese Chinese. | ||
| And and uh Iris Chang ended up killing herself. | ||
| And I think her mother or someone said it was because of the just the trauma of doing the research of what they did. | ||
| Well, they had contests to see who could kill the most people in a short amount of time with their sword. | ||
| It was the most ferocious killing besides I think Rwanda in the history, but a concentrated number. | ||
| And I said to my Taekwondo teacher, I was I was in college, and he was Korean, and I said, Why haven't the Chinese asked for some kind of reparation? | ||
| Why haven't they sort of like asked for formal apologies and stuff? | ||
| And he said, Because in in Asian culture, Chinese, Korean culture, Japanese culture. | ||
| The idea is this the Chinese said, Oh, well, that happened to us because we allowed it to happen. | ||
| We didn't we didn't have our guard up. | ||
| We weren't strong, and it'll never happen again, because you're never doing that to us again. | ||
| And it was really fucking wild. | ||
| I was like, damn, man, that's all that's a crazy thing. | ||
| But that's that's inherent to that culture, which is radical responsibility. | ||
| Like you're responsible, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Chinese people have dealt dealt with a lot of discrimination. | ||
| I believe the word chink comes from uh them working on the railroad. | ||
| So the sound of the ching ching, you know, like that. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's where it look that up, Jamie. | ||
| That's where that that that but they'd suffered a shitload of discrimination. | ||
| And they just set up shop anywhere in the worst neighborhoods, whatever it was. | ||
| They just always Chinese restaurant right now, probably in the Congo. | ||
| Well, let's find out. | ||
| Let's use Perplexity, which is one of our sponsors. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And see if that's where the origin of the word chink came from. | ||
| Even saying that right there, somebody could just clip that out. | ||
| They're using slurs. | ||
| It comes from me, it doesn't matter. | ||
| They're using slurs. | ||
| Um but that does make sense because they just they then no excuses, they just excel. | ||
| You'll you'll learn how to play a fucking classical instrument fluently and be great in finance. | ||
| How did they get people to work on the railroads specifically from China? | ||
| Like what was the origin of the colour? | ||
| I think they came here, I think it was part of the gold rush, and I think uh a number of them came here uh uh on the West Coast, I think, through San Francisco. | ||
| And how'd he wind up being the predominant workforce of they needed labor? | ||
| Chink is an English. | ||
| So etymology, sorry if I'm wrong about that. | ||
| Uh iron chink fish butchering machine. | ||
| 1905, replace many Chinese laborers in fisheries and reinforce the slurs prominence as a racist term during that period. | ||
| Oh wow, so that's crazy. | ||
| So instead. | ||
| So the derogatory application may also stem from a resemblance to chink meaning a narrow opening or a crack, like a chink in the armor. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Well, I guess I was wrong. | ||
| Well, but the fish butchering machine was about it's an iron, it was doing the work of the Chinese people. | ||
| So why that's why they call it an iron chink. | ||
| It's like a slur of the machine. | ||
| It's not like they were named after the machine. | ||
| Uh initially applied to Chinese immigrants, it's used broadly to target Eastern Asian people in general. | ||
| So what was the origin? | ||
| When did it start? | ||
| Well, some of it So eighteen eighty. | ||
| I'm coinciding with increased Chinese immigration to North America during the late 19th century when anti-Chinese sentiment was strong. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like it's just short for China. | ||
| All right, my bad. | ||
| No worries. | ||
| Makes sense though. | ||
| Sounded good. | ||
| Sounds like one of those things someone says in a barbershop. | ||
| But I heard that from a Chinese person, so I was like, oh, that must be right. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, he probably believes it too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He needs to use AI. | ||
| Gotta use AI. | ||
| You know, there's there's things that are just not factually correct, or there's a problem where whatever government or agency or whatever you're researching has pushed so much propaganda through that the standard of what you like standard of care or standard of education or standard of whatever is this incorrect stuff. | ||
| Like one of the weird things that Hubman was saying when um he he was talking to one of his colleagues who is a physician, uh, and he said, what percentage of what is in the medical literature is incorrect? | ||
| And he said 50%. | ||
| Yeah, I heard that. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| 50% in medical school is incorrect. | ||
| So you could l research something like that and you know, and it's in the medical literature, so the AI would assume that it's correct. | ||
| Uh huh. | ||
| But it is not correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because people are full of shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they don't like to be corrected, and they don't like to admit when they're wrong and go back. | ||
| And they also don't like to rewrite history books and they don't like to rewrite things. | ||
| They push back real hard against that stuff. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, like this idea that we're always on this like constant search for truth. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| Some people and some people under constant search to protect their ego and their reputation because they've said one thing in the past, so that's the lie. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they wrote books about it. | ||
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Right. | |
| And they have to lie and obfuscate because they can't admit that they were wrong. | ||
| I remember this guy who said uh he came up with the whole theory on echinacea, which is good for colds. | ||
| And then they did this exhaustive study about echinacea, and they were like, listen, we've done 25 studies. | ||
| It doesn't make a fucking dent, which I can attest to because I take a shitload of a fucking stay stay stick a shit. | ||
| Yeah, people used to say echination golden seed. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And I took the those two. | ||
| And I used to take the shit out of those probably Hippie chicks. | ||
| Ah fuck, man. | ||
| That's their idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You need to take echinacea. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Somebody gave it to me and it was on the tail end of my cold, and I was like, I'm better. | ||
| And then I was like, I'm taking this fucking fuck off. | ||
| What is the benefit? | ||
| Like, what do they say echinacea does? | ||
| Is it supportive of the colour? | ||
| It's viral and antiviral. | ||
| Anyway, the guy who came up with the idea goes, I'm still taking it. | ||
| That was his response. | ||
| Well, let's find out what this what does the studies show? | ||
| Ask Perplexity. | ||
| What do the studies show about echinacea? | ||
| I saw that with seed oil. | ||
| I looked at them too. | ||
| Ced oil is apparently there's no studies that say it's bad for you. | ||
| Yeah, but it's bad for you. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah, it's it's industrial lubricant. | ||
| It's not really even like just if you know all the process that's involved in in in making it, it's also not nearly as healthy as olive oil, and you can get olive oil. | ||
| Just use olive oil. | ||
| Stop fucking around. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Or use beef towel oil. | ||
| It's not human food, man. | ||
| It's processed bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like that just that alone. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like olive oil is fucking super healthy for you. | ||
| Really good for you. | ||
| And you can use that. | ||
| So why do you why are you using that? | ||
| It's cheaper. | ||
| Of course, it's also it's disgusting. | ||
| Like the way they make it, have you ever seen the way they make seed oils? | ||
| Um what does it say? | ||
| Immunity and cold prevention. | ||
| Many studies suggest echinacea may help support immune function and possibly reduce the number and severity of upper respiratory infections. | ||
| Some trials some trials found a small reduction in cold risk or illness duration while high quality reviews show little to no statistically significant benefit over placebo. | ||
| That's all we need to know. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| But again, that's part of science, right? | ||
| Like you you you look at the you do a study, you see what works, right? | ||
| And if it doesn't, it doesn't. | ||
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Right. | |
| But this stuff is complicated. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know how you do a study, what you leave out, also who's funding the study. | ||
| Who's funding the study's huge? | ||
| Whether or not Fauci. | ||
| How big was the study? | ||
| Yeah, all that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then and then a lot of the stuff is also like you have to have expertise in that field to even understand the research. | ||
| Also, studies are much like corrupt boxing judges. | ||
| It's like, what's the purpose of this? | ||
| Like what are you trying to do? | ||
| You're trying to make a lot of money. | ||
| If you're trying to make a lot of money, you can make a study where you can take a dosage that's preposterous and give it to a group of people, and this fucks them up. | ||
| And then you you have a great base of saying this is a dangerous drug. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, they didn't. | ||
| I was watching this guy who's on Patrick Bet David's show. | ||
| There's something that I did not know. | ||
| Do you know that heroin was created? | ||
| It was termed as a solution to morphine addiction. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But it is morphine. | ||
| It's just slightly different. | ||
| It's just like methanol. | ||
| Methadone's fucking terrible for you. | ||
| And that's what they use to get people off of heroin. | ||
| I remember I knew people who were who would go to the methadone clinic. | ||
| We'd call them the metadonians. | ||
| We'd when those playing pool at executive billiards in White Plains, New York, it was right down the street from a methadone clinic. | ||
| And the Methodonians would get their method. | ||
| Intended to treat morphine addiction and serve as a cough suppressant. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Now here's what's really crazy. | ||
| Do you know that when they were inventing this stuff? | ||
| One of the things that they also came up with was acetaminophin. | ||
| And acetaminophen they didn't want people to take because in studies they show that it fucks rats up. | ||
| In their liver. | ||
| Like this is like all these crazy liberals who are not they're taking Tyranol because RFK Jr. said don't take it. | ||
| So like fuck you, I'm taking Tylenol and I'm pregnant. | ||
| Maybe it's okay to take Tylenol if you're pregnant. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But what I do know is it's the number one source. | ||
| Acetamenophane is the number one source of acute liver failure in America. | ||
| Five hundred people die in America every year from liver failure because of taking acetaminophen. | ||
| So don't take it. | ||
| Or it's or it's or it's uh a dose thing, right? | ||
| So I know it's most certainly a thing. | ||
| If a woman's pregnant and she her temperature goes way up, it can get it. | ||
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Right. | |
| So you got you there's a there's a there's a dosage you take that apparently is okay, right? | ||
| So you can take a perhaps yeah. | ||
| I don't know how you would find out I don't know anything about having another woman with the exact same body take Tylenol and not have a problem and one to take to nothing and that's the thing I asked you about. | ||
| Remember the meat thing where I talked to this guy who who said that right. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| What is the side, Jamie? | ||
| Is acetamenophen has no direct chemical or historical connection with the invention or development of heroin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, no, that's not what we're saying. | ||
| No, they they developed is bare. | ||
| They developed acetamenophen as well. | ||
| It wasn't that it had a connection to heroin. | ||
| It was just another thing that they developed that they didn't want to release because they found that it had problems. | ||
| Yeah, but this is the guy on Patrick Bett David. | ||
| Not in he wasn't saying that it was uh developed as a substitute for heroin, as no, it's not nothing like heroin. | ||
| Did you see what Patrick Bett David said about Porter? | ||
| See who about Katie Porter or whatever name is? | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| It was so funny. | ||
| He goes, I just want to shout out to Katie Porter. | ||
| She's fantastic. | ||
| He's just like, just keep going, man. | ||
| I just keep talking that way. | ||
| And he was just but the way he was doing it, it sounded like he was supporting her, but it was just like just keep on going. | ||
| You're telegenic. | ||
| This is fantastic. | ||
| You're great. | ||
| He's fucking so funny. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| I love that dude, man. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| I get along with Mr. That that is uh uh an unfortunate situation. | ||
| And now she's right now drowning in anxiety. | ||
| The the wave of the people that are attacking her, and even unjustly, because of the clip that we pulled up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where she was talking about people connecting groomers to just regular LBGT people or LGBT people. | ||
| Um the uh just the wave of hate that's coming her way, especially when she yelled at her staff, get out of my fucking shot. | ||
| Like we all know that kind of person. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We all know that. | ||
| We know who you are. | ||
| That's who you really are. | ||
| That's who you are. | ||
| That's the real year. | ||
| We've seen people like that. | ||
| We know those kind of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, I I actually, as I get older, I think um how you think and what you actually hold in your mind and your heart, even if you try to keep it a secret. | ||
| It comes out it it will always come out. | ||
| That's why podcasts are so good. | ||
| Fuck yeah, man. | ||
| It's like, listen, your brain is a garden, you gotta de-weed it. | ||
| You gotta keep your brain, you gotta keep your mind on the good things. | ||
| People are gonna fuck you over. | ||
| You gotta r you gotta you gotta forgive them or you'll turn your own back on your future. | ||
| All those little challenges. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're gonna have you're gonna have hard shit that goes on. | ||
| You're gonna come home, your wife is gonna need you, you got kids, you can't bring that shit home. | ||
| That that is the discipline. | ||
| That's being a warrior. | ||
| Not all this fucking other stuff. | ||
| Like I'm fucking practicing my double and single, like I have no idea why I love my son's taking jujitsu so I like to teach him. | ||
| But but at the end of the day, uh the the challenges are keeping your mind and your heart pure. | ||
| And I I I never used to speak this way, but as I get older, that's kind of really what I believe. | ||
| Because it's gonna fucking you you're not getting away with it. | ||
| Well, that's why you should stay off social media because you'll have enemies all day long. | ||
| Uh and there's a lot of people that are our age that are complete addicts. | ||
| They're just especially the left people for whatever reason. | ||
| But uh, I shouldn't say that. | ||
| I know a lot of people on the right are addicted to it too. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| But it's just addicted to these arguments that people have constantly every day, calling people assholes and losers, and you're just carrying around all that bullshit with you all day. | ||
| That's exhausting. | ||
| Which is why I don't do it. | ||
| I mean, I could I could go in on fucking every person that ever wronged me or this, that, and said bad things about me. | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| I always do that. | ||
| I always say, listen, I have friends that I'm getting hate. | ||
| I'm like, listen, dude. | ||
| If you're getting hate, you're doing something right. | ||
| Or you're a cunt. | ||
| And maybe you should get your shit together. | ||
| Maybe the people are right. | ||
| Or you're a cunt. | ||
| It's you never know. | ||
| Like, you know, there's a certain amount of criticism that you should respect. | ||
| You should look at it and go, but a lot of it is straw man criticism. | ||
| And the the reason why people are doing it is not really, they're not really criticizing you or what you stand for. | ||
| They're making up a thing. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| And then they're attacking that. | ||
| I get I get checked up sometimes. | ||
| I I'll I I no longer like I'll read a book and I'll become an expert. | ||
| Like I'll read a book, a half a book on nutrition. | ||
| You'll read a fucking headline. | ||
| But I'll read a headline, bro. | ||
| And I'm and you better sit down at my feet because I got some shit to teach you. | ||
| And uh I was. | ||
| Really important thing. | ||
| He said, Stop teaching. | ||
| Stop trying to teach people. | ||
| You're not an expert. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Fuck. | |
| And you know, in his case, it was very personal because Terrence was talking about mathematics and physics and it was really important for him. | ||
| Because like you know, we know Eric very well. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And but there's a lot of people who think Eric's an idiot, which is hilarious. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| And smart people. | ||
| There's smart people that decided he's an idiot in a fraud. | ||
| And I I've seen videos where smart people are tearing him apart. | ||
| And I'm like, that's interesting. | ||
| Okay, that's so uncharitable and uh not necessary. | ||
| And even if you have criticisms about the way he communicates, you gotta understand that the way he communicates to him is normal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because he's really fucking smart. | ||
| He's an inherently decent, Beautiful person. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He's a genuinely great guy. | ||
| And he's, you know, not the kind of guy that goes out of his way to try to ruin other people. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's not doing that at all. | ||
| And so I get that there's a there's a currency in criticizing people. | ||
| Like you can get clickbait headlines and clickbait videos, but that all comes at a cost too, because I'm never gonna really respect you. | ||
| Because I'm gonna think that w what you're doing when you're doing that kind of stuff is and I get it, it's because if it's a business, you're doing it on YouTube, it's the best way to get clicks. | ||
| But you this this just so gross going out of the way to attack people, it's not smart. | ||
| No because you're gonna be that guy forever. | ||
| And then one day you're like fifty or sixty, and you've built your whole brand on being a cunt. | ||
| But also that same critical out that same critic comebacks to you. | ||
| It comes it turns around and comes back at you. | ||
| Oh, it's when you try to do something, because being good at anything is very hard. | ||
| Like I got I'm fucking dropping my special and I gotta write a whole new I've been writing all new shit. | ||
| That's fucking hard. | ||
| Not repeating yourself, trying to like shake up your paradigm, it's really hard. | ||
| It and and you go through some days where you're like, I'm I'm never gonna write a joke again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if somebody sees you on one of those days where you're eating dick, they're like, Oh my god, he's terrible. | ||
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Right. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I've seen people say that about Louie. | ||
| Like a friend of mine saw Louie in the the cellar, he's like, Oh, he sucked. | ||
| I go, No, he doesn't suck, dude. | ||
| He's got new bits that are brand new, and if you see an hour from or a year from now, that hour will be a polished masterpiece. | ||
| Oh dare you. | ||
| But it doesn't come out of the box perfect, and the only way to ever develop it is you have to have the courage to trot these ideas out and try to find where the funny is in them. | ||
| And sometimes the funny isn't there, and you think it is, and you go looking around, you go, All right, folks, and no other way. | ||
| There's no other way. | ||
| You've got to be able to do that. | ||
| But you know I did an interview on a radio thing, and uh this fucking guy who was hit he had just started doing stand-up was criticizing the ha quote unquote that right wing hack comedian named Jim Brewer. | ||
| And I went, I turned that interview, I was like, are you calling Jim Fucking Brewer a hack? | ||
| Do you know how funny that motherfucker is? | ||
| You know how hard so funny. | ||
| Do you know how hard it is to be to do what that dude does? | ||
| Like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| You've never done you have ten minutes of material. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| That guy's a that guy kills me. | ||
| You ever see his routine about the fucking when his cat got in a f got the shit kicked out of him by a raccoon? | ||
| Oh dude. | ||
| Who's your mother now? | ||
| He just got this shit. | ||
| He's so physically physically funny. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Yeah, he's never not. | ||
| Funny then. | ||
| He was great. | ||
| Goat boy. | ||
| He was phenomenal. | ||
| And he's a great guy, too. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| And it's just like people are always trying to build themselves up by taking other people down. | ||
| And it's historic. | ||
| It's been going on forever. | ||
| It's always the case. | ||
| And it's normal. | ||
| Like when you're young and you're coming up and you see people that are doing better than you, like, fuck that guy. | ||
| It's normal. | ||
| But it's not beneficial. | ||
| It's not good for you. | ||
| You can use it to inspire you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| I've done what they do. | ||
| I've hated on people. | ||
| I I definitely did when I was younger. | ||
| It's just not smart. | ||
| It's not it's not a good strategy for life. | ||
| Doesn't help you. | ||
| It's you know, you you your identity gets too wrapped up in conflict, and it's just like super unhealthy. | ||
| Well, people our age who are still doing that shit. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Don't comics. | ||
| Mark Marin, don't say it. | ||
| I mean, I don't get it. | ||
| You know, I'm like, I I don't know. | ||
| I I get it. | ||
| He's sad. | ||
| He's sad. | ||
| He wants other people to hurt. | ||
| That's uh what it is. | ||
| It's just not charitable. | ||
| It's it's well, it's also he's pathologically jealous. | ||
| Like he's been pathologic, he's like literally mentally ill. | ||
| Like, do you understand? | ||
| Mark, when he first started when he was just first coming up, was friends at Mitch Hedberg, and then Mitch Hedberg hit, and he couldn't be friends with him anymore. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Stop being his friend. | ||
| Same thing with Louis CK. | ||
| Louis CK and him were tight. | ||
| Louis blew up, Mark didn't. | ||
| He he had to fucking hate him. | ||
| And it turned on him. | ||
| Talk shit about him, talk shit about him openly. | ||
| And then he became successful. | ||
| And the years where Mark was successful were the best years of Mark. | ||
| Because Mark was fun. | ||
| Like I've had ups and downs with Mark. | ||
| I've gone through this with him like three or four different times. | ||
| where we, he gets upset at me, and then we talk, and then are we good? | ||
| He likes to talk shit about you, and then you confront him and he says, You're right. | ||
| And with me, my my relationship with him was really complicated because when I was an open micer, I was twenty one years old, and I was just starting out. | ||
| Mark gave me a compliment once that really helped me. | ||
| He came up to me and he said, Hey man, you're really funny. | ||
| He's just Keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| Don't let don't listen to anybody else. | ||
| Just keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| I was like, wow, thank you. | ||
| That's his best side. | ||
| That's the good side. | ||
| It is not all bad. | ||
| And he was a young guy back then, right? | ||
| So he was just being cool. | ||
| And then over time, obviously I became more famous than him and more successful than him. | ||
| And he does not like that. | ||
| He fucking hates that. | ||
| And the only time we were cool was when Mark was number one. | ||
| So Mark, the podcast took off, and you gotta realize it took off when he was deep into his 40s, right? | ||
| And it was the number one podcast in the country. | ||
| And he was on Rolling Stone magazine, and you know, he had his own show on IFC, The Marin Show, and he was fucking great. | ||
| He was cool to hang with. | ||
| He was fun. | ||
| Because he didn't have to compare himself to anybody anymore because he's he was a success. | ||
| Like he could look at his own success. | ||
| He was doing a television show, he had his podcast, everything was great. | ||
| And we were cool. | ||
| Like we were friends. | ||
| Like I'd see him, I'd give him a hug, I said, What's going on? | ||
| We would talk. | ||
| We were like, we're friendly at the store. | ||
| We never hung out off, you know, off-site. | ||
| But we were friendly. | ||
| Like we had pushed all the beef aside, and he even did my podcast. | ||
| We had a great time. | ||
| And then um, I started getting more successful, and then my podcast passed his. | ||
| Then my podcast became number one. | ||
| And then the Spotify deal. | ||
| And that's when he started talking shit about me. | ||
| So he started talking shit about me long before all this Trump stuff. | ||
| This Trump stuff is just the most recent iteration of this bizarre thing that he does with people. | ||
| And the first thing was he had decided that I was an asshole, like just because the podcast took off. | ||
| But it was n it was not a big deal. | ||
| It was like I'd heard people say that he was saying things. | ||
| But then after the Spotify deal, the Spotify deal was a real problem. | ||
| And that's when he started coming after me. | ||
| And it was about vaccines. | ||
| Like, so he was talking about me on stage about vaccines. | ||
| It's like, by the way, everything I said was correct. | ||
| The people that I had on my podcast were like Robert Malone, who got criticized. | ||
| He has nine patents in the creation of MRNA technology. | ||
| He's a vac he's a vaccinologist. | ||
| He's an he took the vaccine himself and had a horrible adverse event, which is when he started becoming critical of it. | ||
| And then he started doing the science and looking into the papers and the research, and he was trying to sound the alarm. | ||
| He was right. | ||
| He was right. | ||
| All these people, Dr. Pierre Corey, he was right. | ||
| Peter McCullough is the most published doctor in human history in his particular field of expertise. | ||
| Which is immunology. | ||
| It's kidney disease. | ||
| I I don't it I don't exactly very well published in a credit scientist. | ||
| So these are the people that I had on that were talking about this stuff. | ||
| It had nothing to do with that, with that Marin was upset at. | ||
| I think though, it's another thing. | ||
| I think some people have a very traumatic experience when they're younger. | ||
| It could be high school. | ||
| And you represent an avatar of that experience. | ||
| So we just spent the I don't know, the first fucking third of this podcast was about fighting, working out, and all that stuff. | ||
| There's a physicality there. | ||
| You uh you are a physical guy. | ||
| You're physically imposing. | ||
| You you know, you can choke somebody unconscious, punch them in the face, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| That that meathead persona, that kind of like uh forward tilt, that yang energy, that very hyper male energy. | ||
| Some people have a very bad experience with that kind of energy when they're young. | ||
| They might be. | ||
| I understand, but you have to judge people and straw man people and pretend that they're of course you do. | ||
| He likes to pretend that I'm like a mean job. | ||
| But that's what I'm saying is that you've got to like, as an adult, after a while, you have to come to terms with whatever emotional reaction you have to, whatever this avatar is that you've put all this stuff on, which we all do. | ||
| I think you've got to take your tele that after a while, you gotta go, hey, this is where I gotta let go of all that stuff, and I gotta take the person at face value. | ||
| Yeah, but this is a you're talking about introspection. | ||
| He doesn't have that. | ||
| That's not him. | ||
| He he does when confronted, and he'll he'll apologize. | ||
| Like, that's his whole thing. | ||
| Are we good? | ||
| We good, and then you'd hug it out with people. | ||
| He also lies. | ||
| Like one of the things he lied about, he's he did a podcast with um uh Howie Mandel, and Howie Mandel asked him uh if he had problems with comedians. | ||
| Like, no, I don't have any problems with any comedians. | ||
| I've never had any problems with comedians. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| He's had a problem with every single comedian that's more successful than him. | ||
| Bill Burr, Louis CK, Dave Chappelle, me, Tony Hinchcliffe, everybody that passes him, all of a sudden he and he talks about them on stage, and the Theo thing really drove me nuts because that sent Theo into a real spiral. | ||
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Did it? | |
| Yeah. | ||
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| Well, Theo went into a spiral, and that was a big part of him getting attacked was Maron talking about him on a special, saying that he'd have Hitler on his podcast. | ||
| Well, why is he saying that? | ||
| Does he think that's true? | ||
| Does he think it's does it think that Theo has anybody on his fucking show, including Bernie Sanders. | ||
| He's learning. | ||
| He's talking to learn. | ||
| He'll talk to people, and you know, he will talk to anybody on his podcast. | ||
| That's not what the thing is. | ||
| The thing is that Marin's podcast, which was number one, isn't even in the top 100 anymore. | ||
| I don't even think it's in the top 200. | ||
| It went away. | ||
| And it went away, not because he did anything. | ||
| He didn't get arrested. | ||
| There was no scandal. | ||
| People just stopped being interested in it. | ||
| And I think that hurts the most. | ||
| Why did they stop being interested in it? | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Here's a part of it. | ||
| Like the conversations that he has are fine. | ||
| But the beginning of the podcast is he's like self-indulgent rants about life and him doing things. | ||
| And there's a thread dedicated on like Reddit where people fast forward to the time, like they give you the time stamp of when he's done ranting, so you can just get to the interview. | ||
| Because nobody wants to hear it. | ||
| Like it's like it's an inside joke. | ||
| But it just that's the reality is it's like Theo passed him, like rocketed past him, and now he has like the number two or number three podcasts in the world. | ||
| Sometimes there's a there's a thing that people do when you're older where you say that person passed me, and then you criticize the culture that got them past it. | ||
| Well, this thing is mad, but the thing is that Marin never developed an audience for his comedy, and he always felt like he deserved it. | ||
| And that's what drove him the most nuts. | ||
| He always felt like he deserved it. | ||
| But it's like you deserve what you get. | ||
| You know what he has a record for? | ||
| Um one of those ticket things, what it's Ticketmaster, whatever one. | ||
| Number one for selling single seats. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Oh, that's really interesting. | ||
| So people with no friends. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Fucking things. | ||
| Sad people. | ||
| Sad people that identify the way he behaves in in their actions. | ||
| I always look at it this way. | ||
| Like I, you know, somebody we were doing this thing, and Ryan Reynolds, people talking about how he gets hate or he gets criticized. | ||
| And I was like, look, man, I don't know about that. | ||
| I just know that I tried really, really hard to be Ryan Reynolds. | ||
| I did, I tried my hardest. | ||
| I was an acting class. | ||
| I went on every fucking audition. | ||
| I got I did okay. | ||
| I was on a couple sitcoms and some movies and stuff. | ||
| But for whatever reason, I didn't I'm not Ryan Reynolds. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| I'm just in probably in some ways, hate to say it. | ||
| I'm I think I'm really good at comedy, but maybe I'm just not as good. | ||
| Or maybe just for whatever reason, I didn't do it. | ||
| Maybe he was smarter in this other area. | ||
| But either way, he's like, Well, the reality is, man, there can only be like a couple of runs. | ||
| That's fine, but I'm not gonna hate on the guy because of it. | ||
| Thousands and thousands and thousands of people that are trying. | ||
| I did. | ||
| I tried hard, man. | ||
| But see, that's the difference between that and comedy. | ||
| See, comedy is a much more of American talk, much more of American. | ||
| Very much. | ||
| If you're funny, you can get an audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's there's Jim Brewer's audience, and then there's Nate Bargotzi's audience, and there's Kevin Hart's audience, and there are everyone can you can get an audience. | ||
| Like, you just have to put your work out there, and people resonate with your work. | ||
| And you might not like these guys. | ||
| You might say this guy sucks, or that guy sucks, and I like this guy. | ||
| No, no, no, it's fine. | ||
| You're allowed to have personal taste. | ||
| Just like there's personal taste in music that I don't like. | ||
| But the proof is proof is in the pudding. | ||
| Do you people come to see you? | ||
| Do you put asses in seats, they enjoy the time, or is it an angry bomb where you're on stage ranting about other comedians? | ||
| Well, that's Marin. | ||
| And he does that all the time. | ||
| Tim Dylan was just saying he was doing that in LA the other day. | ||
| Just ranting about all the comedians that are the at the Riyadh comedy festival. | ||
| Which is all, you know, like legitimate area of criticism, if you can make it funny. | ||
| Like is you know, you're working for the Saudi government and they've definitely done some stuff that's fucking horrible. | ||
| But the the this the root of it all is not real. | ||
| It's not that he cares so much that he wants everyone to do the right thing. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| It's he's upset that all these people are getting attention. | ||
| He's upset that all these it's very childish. | ||
| And but he'll make it look like you know, he's the righteous side, the left, the progressives, he's the voice now, and he's gonna fucking you know, we got work to do, we gotta get these fascists out. | ||
| No, it's it's but it's about him getting more attention. | ||
| That's what it ultimately is all about. | ||
| And that's unfortunate. | ||
| And um, I'm not mad at him. | ||
| And if I saw him and I talked to him, we were cool, I'd give him a hug. | ||
| You're just gonna be able to do that. | ||
| But he wants to pretend just honest. | ||
| Right, but he wants to pretend that everybody else is bad and mean, and that this is this is like the reason why they have they're successful. | ||
| Or that they're hacks. | ||
| Or that the culture is corrupt. | ||
| Well, he also says some dumb shit like, you know, you can stop making fun of trans people. | ||
| They can't get health care. | ||
| That's one of the things he said. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about they can't get health care? | ||
| Healthcare is care that makes you healthy. | ||
| The law that got passed was stopping chemical castration drugs and surgery for underage children that are confused. | ||
| And you know how many kids are yeah, don't be able to do that. | ||
| By the way, these j these things that they call hor like hormone blockers. | ||
| You can't puberty blockers. | ||
| But hold on, hormone blockers, that's not what they originally were used for. | ||
| We know that like medicine can be used off label, right? | ||
| And the idea of that initially was there was only like you know, a hundred different kinds of medicine, and you could figure out what would work and you could prescribe it for different things and off-label uses. | ||
| The stuff that they're using, what they're calling puberty blockers, is the same drugs that they used to give to sex offenders for chemical castration. | ||
| It's the same drugs. | ||
| It's fucking unbelievable. | ||
| It's chemical castration drugs, and you're giving it to children. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then there's this narrative that it can be reversible. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| No, you go through you're gonna have a micro penis for the rest of your life, you're gonna have fucked up vocal cords, you're getting your your whole body is both. | ||
| Bone density sucks, strokes. | ||
| There's a lot of like weird fucking horrific side effects. | ||
| It's so fucking evil to me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So his straw man is transgender people can't get you you should stop talking about him, man. | ||
| They can't get medical care, they can't get health care. | ||
| Are you happy? | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| That has never been the case. | ||
| He's just trying to get you to limit the amount of things that you're talking about that people want to hear. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's really what he's doing. | ||
| It's like a really selfish, self-oriented fucking thing. | ||
| It's not righteous. | ||
| That's what's the crazy thing about it. | ||
| And people are gonna find that out, man. | ||
| They're gonna dig into you. | ||
| They're gonna listen to the things you say and what the way you behave and the things you've talked about. | ||
| Saying, you know, like that the whole reason why everybody voted for Trump is because they wanted to say the word retard. | ||
| That's a straw man. | ||
| Like it was a really funny bit, I get it. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's not that good a bit. | ||
| But it's a straw man. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| What everybody wanted was they realized there was a crazy thing happening where the border was wide open. | ||
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Right. | |
| And 20 million people got in in four years that weren't supposed to be here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But does that mean that you support everything that they're doing now? | ||
| Or are they kicking people out? | ||
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| No. | ||
| No, no, that's not cool either. | ||
| The military in the street, I think is a dangerous precedent. | ||
| But also, why are you allowing people to just riot on the streets and burn down buildings? | ||
| Yeah, why do you have to lock up toothpaste in Washington, DC? | ||
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Toothpaste. | |
| You gotta lock it up. | ||
| San Francisco is that good? | ||
| No, it's look, there's there's there's a balance to be had here, and there's a conversation to be had, but it's not in straw man arguments where you're saying that the only reason why people want is because they wanted to say this these comedians are just voting for fascism. | ||
| No, I want this is why with my podcast, like I was I got to a point where I was having I was interviewing people, right? | ||
| It was great. | ||
| But the problem is I I don't I after a while for me, like there are too many people like you who do it really well. | ||
| I would love, and I don't know if I'll be able to I think I talked to you about this, just to get people on two different sides to have a discussion. | ||
| Just to find out, like just to kind of get to a so in other words, can we just try to approach this as solving a problem? | ||
| We don't like to be the right two people. | ||
| It's hard to get them though. | ||
| But I that's what's hard to get him, but it also has to be two people that were actually just trying to state their points. | ||
| You know, it's a really good example of that recently. | ||
| Coleman Hughes uh had he's great. | ||
| Had Dave Smith on his podcast. | ||
| Very good conversation. | ||
| Super balanced, intelligent, calm level, especially from Coleman. | ||
| Coleman's supervisor. | ||
| He's a killer. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| And it was, you know, one of the rare times where I think Dave was kind of stomped in certain situations. | ||
| And it's great. | ||
| Oh, Dave probably learned a lot. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you had a very interesting point about the Wesley Clark thing. | ||
| Do you see that? | ||
| I did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like he never saw the memo. | ||
| Like he was told what was in the memo. | ||
| He's like, you understand that if you're writing a history book, that wouldn't even be you couldn't even put that in the book. | ||
| Which is accurate. | ||
| It's absolutely accurate. | ||
| It's accurate. | ||
| It doesn't mean that they didn't actually do that, though. | ||
| And it seems like that's a that is exactly what happened, which is like kind of convenient. | ||
| Well, he addressed that too, but I know what you're saying. | ||
| It's like again. | ||
| But it's also like a brilliant debate. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And never never get to the case. | ||
| And I learned you learned things from that. | ||
| You're not going to see Mark Marion one of those. | ||
| And that's the bummer. | ||
| It's like if you if you have these ideas you're standing on and you're vocal with them, right? | ||
| Then you should be willing to put them on the table and see how they war against another idea. | ||
| And you also should entertain the other person's perspective. | ||
| The problem is like Dave has been saying it one way for the longest time. | ||
| And when Coleman said that I think the correct response is that is true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You got a really good point. | ||
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You won. | |
| You're right. | ||
| However, no, you really win. | ||
| Because they did do exactly what was in that memo. | ||
| I mean, they did overthrow every single country except for Iran. | ||
| No, no, no, because he said, in fact, we did it with a number of other regimes, but there were I think three or four countries in that memo that they we haven't done that with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they've been going after those specifically. | ||
| And those a lot of them did did get toppled. | ||
| This was Rumsfeld. | ||
| But it's also yeah, and it is interesting that that is a strategy that the United States employs and that we do topple regimes and that we you know we do. | ||
| We have in the past. | ||
| We have been involved in that. | ||
| And to deny that I think is kind of crazy. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we also really do a good job of taking advantage of opportunities. | ||
| And when 9-11 happened, that's when they passed through the Patriot Act. | ||
| Like that's when they they started taking it. | ||
| That was the birth of the surveillance state, sir. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They know they know everything about you. | ||
| I talk about this in specialists, like they know a woman's pregnant based on her migratory shopping pattern, sir. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So they can th based on your migratory shopping pattern, they can pick up that you're that you are with child. | ||
| And you don't before she knows it, before she knows it. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's what's crazy. | ||
| They have cameras with full gate recognition. | ||
| So the way you're gate changes are how you walk is in the cloud. | ||
| There you that is a signature for you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Forget your biometrics. | ||
| Cover your face all you want. | ||
| They have cameras that can pick up how you walk. | ||
| The mathematics of how you walk is just like your fingerprint. | ||
| They also have a laser that can shoot into your heart into your body and pick up your heart signature, sir. | ||
| So good luck hiding from the state. | ||
| It's here and that's it. | ||
| Your privacy is one of the things that they were saying when it came to the abortion um debate that I thought was very interesting that I hadn't considered, is that they were um they were talking about prosecuting women that left a state where abortion was illegal and went to a state where it was legal and then returned. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that they were going to do this based on apps. | ||
| So women have apps where they track their ovulation, and that they could get the data from these apps. | ||
| I think it's it's outrageous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's also that's where it gets really creepy because it's a lot of Christian fundamentalists. | ||
| Well, it actually hinges. | ||
| It actually hinges on murder. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So if you if you if somebody came across state lines and murdered somebody, you could do that. | ||
| That's that's absolutely legitimate. | ||
| When you define abortion as murder, okay, then that is there is a there are strong legal grounds to establish that precedent. | ||
| Sure, but you're also not supposed to be prosecuting, say if you're in Texas, you're not supposed to be prosecuting someone for the actions that they did in Oklahoma. | ||
| Unless it's murder. | ||
| That's a federal crime. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So they if they approach it that way. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So you you you you certainly were a republic, But and and so there are statutory laws, but they do not supersede in many cases uh federal law if it's something like murder. | ||
| That's a capital crime. | ||
| The problem is you're getting giving men the ability to track women's behavior in a way that I think it's hugely problem for that. | ||
| Also, when there's a significant portion of this country that believes women should have access to abortions. | ||
| And for you to say no, and it's their body, that that gets slippery. | ||
| This is where this is where we get into it gets real slippery, and that gets into the more of a libertarian area, you know, where I think that's probably where I land a lot of the time. | ||
| Now you're sounding like a leftist slash libertarian. | ||
| It's so weird, right? | ||
| It's hard to label anybody. | ||
| When it comes to live and let live and accepting people for whatever it is, whether they're gay or whether from another country, like I'm open to everybody. | ||
| I want you to just be cool. | ||
| Be nice and be cool and try to do a good thing with your life and enjoy yourself and not harm others. | ||
| When you're running when you're still when you're so when you have policy, the problem is we get into the the weeds, technology creates problems that are major because typically I think with Roe v. | ||
| Wade, the abortion was legal until the the fetus was viable on its own. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you what once the fetus was if if it could be the cutoff thing was without the mother, if it needs the mother, then it's still um you can still have a part of the mother. | ||
| Now if the baby's eight months, no. | ||
| Um but when what happens when technology can keep a six-week fetus alive and bring it to term. | ||
| Now you're dealing with now you can't make the argument. | ||
| But it it will be. | ||
| Exactly technology is good. | ||
| So now the now the problem becomes now what do you do? | ||
| Now we have to redefine. | ||
| So the the people who believe in abortion or a woman's right to choose have to redefine what it is. | ||
| And the only way to get around that is to say that that a woman can make that choice until the baby's born. | ||
| And that's where you get politicians to say, you believe that babies should be killed up until they're about uh up until the woman's crowning. | ||
| And then we get into this whole thing and then you know Yeah. | ||
| And well, it it also is a uniquely human issue in that it does get blurry. | ||
| Like as much as I say I'm one hundred percent I think a woman it's her choice, especially at early stages. | ||
| You know, if someone is pregnant for four weeks, that's your choice. | ||
| I don't I don't think anybody should be stepping in. | ||
| However, everybody with any kind of a heart or a m everybody loves babies. | ||
| When you get to like eight months or seven months, you're like, Whoa, that is a full-on baby inside of you. | ||
| Which is cr and then when you see what they do when they do have late-term abortions, you could see the body parts. | ||
| Like I don't know if you've ever seen it. | ||
| Unfortunately, I can't. | ||
| I can't watch that shit. | ||
| I I've watched some of those videos and and then you've also seen people who were working for planned parenthood who are c callously talking about sorting through these parts. | ||
| I guess you have to be that way, don't you? | ||
| I mean, there's no other way to do it. | ||
| I guess, but there's some of those Project Veritas type videos where, you know, people are— Behind the scenes men. | ||
| It's so dark. | ||
| But they don't think there's anything wrong because they think that abortion should be legal and abortion is a leftist position and a woman should have a right to choose. | ||
| So in their mind, this is what's happening, and like here's a leg and here's a heart and here's a head. | ||
| This is where ideology you have to be super inflexible, right? | ||
| You gotta be like, well, this is what I believe no matter what. | ||
| Yeah, and I can't live that way, no. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| You can't be if you're not grossed out by a little baby hand that just got sucked out of a woman's vagina with a vacuum cleaner, that's kind of crazy. | ||
| Bob Geldoff said something that was so interesting. | ||
| You know, remember Bob Geldoff showed it. | ||
| We are the world. | ||
| And he was talking about Gaza, right? | ||
| And you can get into a really you can get into a debate about Gaza. | ||
| I don't I leave that shit alone because I'm not gonna get into that because you you can talk about Israel turning into the surface of the moon. | ||
| There's there's plenty of criticism in that direction. | ||
| You can talk about what they did in October 7th and all that stuff. | ||
| But he said something wild. | ||
| He said, Look, there are a lot of kids who are starving or at least malnourished or really hungry, whatever it might be. | ||
| And he said something, he asked a question I thought was great. | ||
| But hey, who are we as human beings, as people, who are we? | ||
| Like there's gotta be something we can do. | ||
| There's gotta be something we can do, whether it's Israel, whether it's Palestinians, whatever, to to at least get that kid fed, at least to stop that kind of stuff. | ||
| And that's it that I think sometimes there's a question to ask. | ||
| You gotta throw all your ideology out the window. | ||
| You gotta throw all your politics out the window and go, hold on. | ||
| I'm uh this is called the stop everything button. | ||
| I'm gonna push it right now. | ||
| I'm just gonna stop everything, and uh we gotta stop and make sure those kids are fed. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| Unless your ideology has gotten so dark that you think of those kids as an other. | ||
| You don't think of those kids as kids. | ||
| Those kids are orcs. | ||
| Yeah, that's what the Vedanta always says that the the the seeing nothing, no other is is the way, ultimately realizing that you and that person, back to what you said, you'd be that person too under those circumstances. | ||
| But then there's a cold hard reality of environment and culture, right? | ||
| If you if you grow up in this radical genre, there are good ideas and bad ideas. | ||
| Let's not get it twisted. | ||
| It doesn't mean you're an intellectual and say everything is everything, okay? | ||
| We're not being relativists here. | ||
| What I'm saying is if you live in a part of the world that's fucked, you're gonna be fucked. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You're gonna be fucked. | ||
| Which is then we have to go, hold on. | ||
| There is a there is a better way, and there is a bat uh there's a worse way. | ||
| W th when you lose that side of that, like you there's there is a better way. | ||
| There's good, there's evil, there's better, there's worse, and that takes some time to understand the meaningful difference. | ||
| Have you ever talked to Evan Hafer about his time in Afghanistan? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Some of the things that he told me, the things that he saw and the things that he like personally witnessed. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's like, you really get this feeling like you just you can't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't you can't deal with this. | ||
| Like and th this is my thought on that. | ||
| It's like I wonder if that's what life was like all over the world thousands and thousands of years ago. | ||
| I wonder if like kind, nice people were like an aberration. | ||
| And if most of the war like w we're seeing in places like Afghanistan, these warlord driven mountain communities of people that are like I wonder if that's like how most of human history was. | ||
| I believe it was. | ||
| I believe it was too. | ||
| You had that, Daryl Cooper said the greatest thing about the Middle East conflict. | ||
| He said it's a part of the world where people have to give up who they could be for who they have to be. | ||
| And that's a beautiful way to put it because that is that is that is what m we are so man, as Americans, especially a certain kind of American, we're so lucky because I get to be who I get to try to be who I wanna be. | ||
| I don't have to settle for who I have to be. | ||
| I don't have to watch my kids go hungry and and do some bad shit because if my kids couldn't get water, I'm gonna be slitting some throats. | ||
| But I never had to face that stuff. | ||
| I never had to embrace the angels of my darker nature just to survive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's a luxury, man. | ||
| And you also never had to like those people never get to stray from that path because they're they're in that path from the time they're a child, and if they make it to be thirty and they're living like that, it's a miracle. | ||
| If you lose an election in a lot of countries, you die. | ||
| You don't live to another see another day. | ||
| How about Mexico? | ||
| We were talking about the amount of assassinations in Mexico. | ||
| I had Ed Calderon on and explained. | ||
| He was like, they're all working for the cartel. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's cartel on cartel violence. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| And it's like why is that? | ||
| Because drugs are illegal, and so only the uh outlaws sell the drugs, and we are the ones who buy it, and so we prop up this fucking illegal market that's right next door. | ||
| We're the biggest market in the world for that stuff. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And it's just it's that's another human problem. | ||
| Like, so what do you do? | ||
| Do you make everything legal? | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| And then you're gonna have drug addiction and you're gonna have all sorts of problems and people are gonna overdose, they probably wouldn't, but is that better than like allowing people to overdose accidentally on fentanyl because they just wanted a bump of coke? | ||
| You can stack bodies, that's one way to do it. | ||
| You can actually, like he was saying, treat it like an insurgency and stack bodies like we did with ISIS. | ||
| We solved that ISIS problem. | ||
| Nobody who ever talks about that. | ||
| We solved that ISIS problem in about six fucking months. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well that we the Trump said, I'll tell you what, you guys uh let's take the gloves off and just go to work, and we stacked bodies, and that kind of went away in six months. | ||
| It is if you want to get really ugly, there's one aspect of it, you can do that, and I believe that's possible, and the reason I believe it's possible for some countries like the United States is because we've done it, and that'd be pretty ugly. | ||
| Or the other thing is to maybe f look into legalizing or taking the profit out of that kind of behavior. | ||
| That's the second thing. | ||
| The third thing you could do, you could do, is you could actually go to the cartels, which is Controversial, but I know it was on the table. | ||
| And cut a deal, which is tell you what, guys, tell us where all the fentanyl is, all the fentanyl factories in this country and in Mexico. | ||
| No fentanyl, no human trafficking, but you can sell let's say marijuana and cocaine. | ||
| How's that sound? | ||
| You have to do it. | ||
| I'd heard about that too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'd heard that involved like a financial exchange. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And yes, that's right. | ||
| And also pay us some reparations. | ||
| So here's here's I don't know, five billion dollars today, we'll give you five billion dollars in about five years. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| Listen, listen, it's a deal, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| These are business people. | ||
| But do you really think that they would honor that deal? | ||
| But that then m essentially you're opening up the door to well, they're just a pharmacy now. | ||
| They're a pharmacy for illegal drugs that we can't stop from coming in. | ||
| So at one point in time, should we just accept the fact that people want to buy drugs and sell drugs? | ||
| Because look, if cocaine was pure, how many people would be just doing a bump every now and then on a Saturday night? | ||
| You can't sustain it. | ||
| If you want to do blow nobody did a bunch of blow, nobody had a lot of price. | ||
| But the problem the that's a bunch of blow. | ||
| Some people don't do a bunch of blow, but they'll occasionally do blow. | ||
| But no, no, no. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| I mean, some people can just party on the weekend. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't think that's the case because we think everyone's a crackhead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everyone just loses their whole life. | ||
| Like we don't even know because it's illegal. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| We don't know how like that's Dr. Carl Hart's position. | ||
| You know, Dr. Carl. | ||
| In other words, people can actually use drugs recreationally and be fine. | ||
| That's him. | ||
| And he does. | ||
| It's called individual responsibility, their adultery. | ||
| And he's like, the problem is this propaganda about what drugs are. | ||
| He's the heroin guy? | ||
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| He tries heroin. | ||
| Don't do it that way. | ||
| Sorry, dude, I'm not cold. | ||
| He can't say he's the heroine guy. | ||
| But he's brilliant. | ||
| And he's a very interesting guy when he talks about it. | ||
| You're like, you're getting the perspective of a very educated person who was a uh complete clean, sober person until he became a clinical researcher. | ||
| And then as he's researching these drugs and doing like actual scholarly work, he realizes like, oh, they don't this is not real at all. | ||
| All this propaganda is nonsense. | ||
| Like the heroin addiction thing, he's like, it's like the flu. | ||
| It's like you just you you feel like shit for a couple days, then you get over it and you're fine. | ||
| It's like it's not. | ||
| Well, he's I mean, you're right that most people use drugs recreationally and it doesn't ruin their life. | ||
| So again, I I subscribe to that idea. | ||
| Like let if let people do they're gonna do it anyway for the right. | ||
| They're gonna smoke weed, they're gonna do blow, they're gonna do that shit. | ||
| But it was would it this is my position. | ||
| I think yes, but if they did make it legal where you could go to CVS and buy heroin or go to CVS and buy cocaine, you're gonna get a lot more people that buy it and try it because it's now legal. | ||
| You know, so you get a lot more drug use initially. | ||
| Maybe in the short term. | ||
| Yeah, because our culture is fucked up. | ||
| Our culture is like designed to accept legal things that are very detrimental, like alcohol, which is a hugely detrimental. | ||
| One of the worst ones for you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's all that's one of the things that Hunter Biden said. | ||
| You ever hear hear Hunter Biden talk about crack? | ||
| No. | ||
| Makes you want to try crack. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| He did this interview with what is that guy's name? | ||
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| Andrew Callahan. | ||
| And um he did this whole thing where he described how amazing crack is. | ||
| I swear to God, it makes you want to try crack. | ||
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| But you know, he asked him, you think crack is safer than alcohol. | ||
| He's like, Yeah, probably. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably safer. | ||
| And it probably is Well, first of all, crack is devastating quickly. | ||
| Like you'll wake up in three years and have no house and be on the street. | ||
| Alcohol, you can be an alcoholic for 40 years before you realize holy fuck, I got nothing going on. | ||
| Yeah, that's true, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I I again I mean, I I think that the the idea is you can legalize it. | ||
| Uh, there's a lot of money in enforcement. | ||
| And uh you know, or you can stack bodies. | ||
| Well, in the back of the city. | ||
| People used to snort cocaine, and if you took to free basing, you had a real problem. | ||
| Like that was Richard Pryor. | ||
| Richard Pryor was fine until he started free basically. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But most of us are gonna go But that's crack. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But most of us would like most of us are busy, right? | ||
| Like you're gonna have people that are gonna fuck their lives up, just like they do with alcohol and everything else, and cocaine and crack. | ||
| But most of us, even if it's exactly but if it's around we'll navigate it exactly how we're gonna navigate social media. | ||
| Exactly how we navigate alcohol. | ||
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Right. | |
| People are gonna start to realize they're being gamed by bots, by the most extreme examples. | ||
| Your algorithm is lying to you. | ||
| So pretty soon what happens? | ||
| You say things like, I'm not gonna fucking I'm not I'm gonna get off social media. | ||
| I think it takes like ten years before they figure that out though, Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But it takes a while. | ||
| And then we'll have another problem. | ||
| But I I just think every time you try to uh fucking nanny state. | ||
| Or just make the world yeah, make the world fix the world with with force. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's kind of like squeezing a balloon. | ||
| The gas is the the air is just gonna go in another part of the balloon. | ||
| As I get older, I'm like, I don't know, man. | ||
| There might be a much easier way to do this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, personal responsibility is huge, but also counseling, like if you're gonna allow drugs, that you there would have to be a whole support system set up to help people with addiction. | ||
| But then also they should bring in Ibogaine. | ||
| I mean, what they're doing with Ibogaine in Texas with veterans and with people that are drug addicts, they've had tremendous results. | ||
| It stops your addiction dead in its tracks. | ||
| Crazy, right? | ||
| With one session, eighty percent of the people never never return. | ||
| And with two sessions, ninety plus percent of the people never return. | ||
| To alcohol. | ||
| To anything, to heroin, alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, whatever it is. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Whatever you're hooked on. | ||
| Doesn't Ozempic work for that shit too? | ||
| Oh, Zempic seems to have some sort of an effect on that as well. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Craving part of your brain. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's like it stops appetite, so I wonder if it stops like an appetite for like wild shit too. | ||
| Like Yeah, come on, seven. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, apparently it it helps. | ||
| I think that the peptides and all that shit, technology is gonna make it so that we can figure out a way to control a lot of that shit. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think they'll but they have very good drugs for alcohol. | ||
| Very good drugs. | ||
| You can take a drug for alcohol. | ||
| The problem is it's not the alcohol. | ||
| The problem is when you take away somebody's addiction, like alcohol then they still have an edge for something. | ||
| But no, but it's also like your whole all the fun of your life. | ||
| Do you know that when you get a when people get gastric bypass um and and they they stop eating, uh suicides go up for them? | ||
| Because eating was how they fucking dealt with all their problems. | ||
| Like so you're taking again now you're you're you're taking away the addiction, but you you're not getting to the source because you gotta be able to replace that shit. | ||
| You gotta turn them into triathlete like that old lady. | ||
| Which is why you gotta go to church. | ||
| I'm a man of God. | ||
| I go to church now. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Yeah, I've done to church many times. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I go to I go to Red Rocks. | ||
| Don't tell people where you go. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| I gotta come see you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hang out. | ||
| I'm not that famous. | ||
| Sit right behind you and stare at your Bible, see if you're on the right page. | ||
| This is what this is my fame. | ||
| People go, you know Joe Rogan? | ||
| Can you get this thing to him? | ||
| I got a deal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to sell shoelaces. | ||
| I don't even do I don't know. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Sometimes people just come up with like today. | ||
| Great idea. | ||
| It's like, you know, it's a good thing. | ||
| And you were like, I'm just not interested. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't want to be in business with anybody. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not fun. | ||
| I've tried it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not a good time. | ||
| I do have I do have a business proposal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have an idea. | ||
| I'm sure you do. | ||
| I have one idea. | ||
| I'm busy. | ||
| I've brought you with I brought I brought two ideas to you. | ||
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Yeah, they all suck. | |
| Well, they're in there. | ||
| Tell everybody your special. | ||
| Brian Callon, it's out there. | ||
| Oh, my special. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| My special event. | ||
| False gods. | ||
| False gods. | ||
| I shot it at the mothership. | ||
| I'm very proud of it. | ||
| I think it's going to be great. | ||
| Who shot it for you? | ||
| Um Dana, who's Sam Triple's uh lady. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| I love Dana so much. | ||
| And she's that's the second thing she did. | ||
| She did Man Tears, and this is uh I'm dropping this tomorrow. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| And this will air tomorrow. | ||
| It'll air will it's today. | ||
| So everybody's listening. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| It's today. | ||
| All right. | ||
| If you're listening, it'll be tomorrow, but it'll October 15th. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exclusively on YouTube. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Now I'm back to square one. | ||
| I'm gonna shoot my next one at the mothership. | ||
| I'll see you tonight, but are you gonna be uh Yeah, I'll be there tonight. | ||
| I'll be there too late. | ||
| Thank you for the time. | ||
| My pleasure, my brother. | ||
| It's always good to hang out. | ||
| Oh hey, uh, and come see every when every other Wednesday at Brian Redman's club uh uh Sunset Strip. | ||
| We do acting off. | ||
| Do you know about my show? | ||
| Oh no, what's that? | ||
| Oh dude, I take I take all the all the comics in Austin and we see who the best actor is. | ||
| So you've got to like do things like die in slow motion, who does have the best. | ||
| Or do redo the scene from the notebook as Miss Piggy and Donald Trump is fucking hilarious. | ||
| Peyton Ruddy is a fucking killer in it. | ||
| Damn Martin's. | ||
| Dude, that's a great idea. | ||
| It's been so amazing, and we haven't promoted it, but I'm starting to promote it now because we're gamifying it. | ||
| We have teams and see who can do the best, like, you know, interpretation. | ||
| We have we have up close acting, so we have a camera on your face. | ||
| This is another thing that pisses me off about all these comics talking shit about the Austin scene. | ||
| There's so many things going on here. | ||
| This idea so many clubs. | ||
| People have like made this again, this straw man like you have to have an N-word joke and you have to have a trans joke. | ||
| Like fuck that fucking club is so diverse. | ||
| Incredibly diverse. | ||
| But naturally. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| With no effort. | ||
| It's all just funny people. | ||
| Who's the funniest? | ||
| People are funny in all shapes and sizes from all walks of life. | ||
| Whatever struggle you've had that manifests itself in humor. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Exists. | ||
| There's tons of people in that club that are gay. | ||
| Most of the comedians. | ||
| Most of the comedians, by the way, are liberal. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| So that throws that out the window. | ||
| This whole idea that it's some fucking right wing comedy club. | ||
| Like, stop it. | ||
| Most of the people there are liberal. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Most of them. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| But it's just this walled garden thing when people are on the outside, and they're like there wasn't there hasn't been a scene here before. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then you have the scrubs that were here. | ||
| Like they ruined the comedy scene. | ||
| Like you guys had nothing. | ||
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Shut up. | |
| You shut your stupid lazy hole. | ||
| You had nothing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There was there was you didn't even have a comedy club. | ||
| When I moved here, Cap City was closed. | ||
| You know how I know? | ||
| Because I was gonna buy it. | ||
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Right. | |
| I was looking, I went to look at the fucking place where Cap City used to be, and I was gonna purchase it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how I know it was under. | ||
| Good club now. | ||
| It's the new one. | ||
| That's a different one. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The old one was great too, though, which is like an event center now. | ||
| Um, but yeah, the new one is great. | ||
| And but the mothership brought a bunch of comedy here, so there are a lot of other clubs that are gone that are really fun. | ||
| Quick in a cave. | ||
| Because we made it so that first of all, you've got a club that has two days of open mic nights, and you've got a real guy in Adam Eagot, who's a real talent coordinator that really helps the development of comedians, and he does it really like consciously takes it very seriously. | ||
| Takes it very seriously, and he's like, he really loves comedy, and he really wants to help people, and he gives great advice and he's gonna be able to do that. | ||
| Adam actually watches sets. | ||
| Like he sits in the audience and watches. | ||
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Unbelievable. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that's why I brought him in. | ||
| I mean, he and I were the founders of the mothership. | ||
| I mean, it was like we we did it together. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I wouldn't have done it without him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't have done it without him and without Kerry and a lot of the people that came from the the store. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And this is a place that we're it's new. | ||
| And so if you're on the outside and you're not in, you try to find some criticism. | ||
| That that's like criticism is fine if you're telling the truth. | ||
| But there's a bunch of people that are making things up because they're trying to attack something that they can't be a part of. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And most of the reason you can't be a part of is because you're a cunt. | ||
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You're a cunt you're a cunky person. | |
| We haven't no cunts allowed, but no, no. | ||
| No, we try to try to eliminate, and we have. | ||
| You know, we've we've actually banned some cunts. | ||
| Yeah, you know, because people were shitty people. | ||
| And like we're trying to have a real positive place where you can just get better at this art form. | ||
| It's a love fest. | ||
| Every time we go there, everybody's having a good time. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And you're gonna have people that have better experiences there and worse experiences there. | ||
| One of the things, like someone was saying that she went to a comedy show and Justin Martindale went on, and then the next guy who came on started saying all these slurs about him. | ||
| Yeah, you know who the next guy was? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Brian Holtzman. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So if you know Brian Holtzman's act, it's a character he plays that's a complete maniac. | ||
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Right. | |
| And everyone he goes on, he went after Kim Congden the other night. | ||
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Right. | |
| Kim Congden has this great set. | ||
| She's in the The Little Boys, great set, very funny. | ||
| He goes on and he goes, and amazing watching women try to do things men do. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Get in the kitchen! | ||
| Get in the kitchen! | ||
| It's a character he plays. | ||
| He's the sandwich. | ||
| He's the sweetest human being on the city. | ||
| Sweetest human being. | ||
| So he did this with Justin Rodney. | ||
| Justin Martin Dale doesn't care. | ||
| Justin Martinale give as good as he's like, fucking said he like commented on it when this girl was talking shit about it. | ||
| Like, yeah, that happened. | ||
| Like, yeah, that happened with Brian Holtzman, you fucking asshole. | ||
| You know what he's doing. | ||
| He does that with me. | ||
| He does that with everybody. | ||
| Every single person he goes on after, he shits on them to set the tone, and then he shits on everything. | ||
| He shits on the tech guys walking around with their south by southwest. | ||
| He goes crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's funny as shit too. | ||
| He's a legend. | ||
| Like you know what he's doing. | ||
| This pr so that maybe this one comic didn't know. | ||
| Maybe no one told her. | ||
| But she's like spreading all this shit that it's like this hateful environment. | ||
| Oh no, no, no. | ||
| It's it's so silly. | ||
| I know you wish it was, because then it w it could suck and you're not a part of it. | ||
| Come see how many come see how diverse the faces are in the fucking mothership. | ||
| It's the United Nations, dude. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It really is. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And and including because of Tony, there are a lot of people who are who are uh disabled who would never have a fucking stage. | ||
| But because they did some shit on Kill Tony, Tony, like, you know, facilitated the fact that they have a place to perform every single fucking night and a community. | ||
| And then by the way, they've earned it. | ||
| I'm not saying they haven't. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And Kill Tony, they have a very unique pathway where if they can really bang out a solid minute and kill. | ||
| They can have a career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can have a career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Timmy no breaks. | ||
| He does acting off, by the way. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| He's a good thing. | ||
| Dude, that dude is he'll just come up with shit out of him and Peyton Runny will fucking and Danny Martinella, they'll hit you with shit, and we're just like, holy fucking. | ||
| And that's Wednesday night at what time? | ||
| Wednesday night, we do it at seven. | ||
| We're doing it on October 22nd. | ||
| Come see what we do. | ||
| It's gamified. | ||
| It's very- Where is uh the best place to find out when you guys are gonna be there? | ||
| Is it the website? | ||
| Yeah, we on Sunset Strips website and and my website, but also my my Instagram stuff. | ||
| I post about it. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| And Nick Collis and my buddy Nick Simmons, who are my openers, you know, Nick Simmons. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Funny as shit. | ||
| It's funny, very funny. | ||
| It's fucking great. | ||
| We gotta get him in. | ||
| We gotta get those. | ||
| Those guys are all auditioning too. | ||
| They're they're going through the whole process, so it's fantastic. | ||
| Great guys. | ||
| All right, you're a uh false gods available on YouTube. | ||
| Come see me. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Love you, brother. | ||
| Peace. | ||
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