July 29, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Joe Rogan podcast, check it out! | ||
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The Joe Rogan experience. | |
| Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. | ||
| Feeling better now? | ||
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It's awesome. | |
| Does it feel better? | ||
| It does feel better, yeah. | ||
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A little bit. | |
| Yeah, it's just a consistent thing. | ||
| You have to do it every day. | ||
| We're talking about decompressing the back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Lower back pain. | ||
| Another thing you can do without a machine is just bend your knees, just bend slightly, grab your arms like this, and just like go forward and relax your back, and it'll pop your back that way, too. | ||
| Because I know how to pop upper back. | ||
| That's where you have to go back. | ||
| The person just grab you and then hold you and then you can hear it crack. | ||
| I don't know how good it is. | ||
| But the lower back is when I played football, I played contact football, and we used to go to physicals. | ||
| You had to get a physical, and it was just a gigantic room, and you'd go from doctor to doctor, so everybody could do it at one time. | ||
| And I remember I laid down, and the doctor grabbed my leg, and he was trying to get range of motion, and he got it like three-quarters of the way up, and it stopped. | ||
| And he said to me, you're going to have lower back pain when you're older. | ||
| And that's exactly what happened. | ||
| You can avoid it. | ||
| He predicted it. | ||
| There's a lot of ways to avoid it. | ||
| You know, people just accept it. | ||
| But what you're telling me right there with not being able to get your leg up, that's a hamstring issue. | ||
| So one thing, hamstrings and quads and glutes, all the tightness in those areas will absolutely affect your back. | ||
| Because anytime you have restricted range of motion and you're really tight, everything else is tightened. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I say everything is like kind of pulled down and you have to figure out a way to lengthen that shit out. | ||
| And there's a lot of different stretches you could do, but you definitely should be doing them. | ||
| Nobody likes to stretch. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Everybody hates it. | ||
| But if you don't do it, you're going to go to a doctor and they're going to want to cut you open. | ||
| And don't do that because there's other ways around that. | ||
| If you're listening to this and you've got a bulging disc in your back, there's ways around it, folks. | ||
| There's decompression. | ||
| There's stem cells. | ||
| There's a thing that I did a long time ago in California called, oh my God, what is it called? | ||
| What is that shit called? | ||
| That Peyton Manning did? | ||
| Regenikine? | ||
| Regenikine. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Escaped my mind. | ||
| It's early. | ||
| Regenikine is where they, it's like platelet-rich plasma, but it's a more sophisticated version of it. | ||
| They first started, pioneered it in Germany. | ||
| You have to go to Germany to get it, but now you get it in America. | ||
| But stop over in Turkey for the hair, and then in Germany for the hair. | ||
| You don't have to do it. | ||
| It's in America now. | ||
| What is the name of the place? | ||
| Life cycle medicine in Santa Monica? | ||
| What is the name of the place? | ||
| Why am I not remembering? | ||
| My brain has way too much extra information, and my hard drive is so full. | ||
| Lifespan. | ||
| Lifespan medicine in Santa Monica is where I had it done. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| My neck was fucked up for like almost a year. | ||
| And I was going to chiropractors who are all goofy. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| And then I finally went to this guy, Dr. Ben Ruhi there, and he said, you have a bulging disc in your neck. | ||
| We got an MRI. | ||
| He's like, this is what we could do. | ||
| Spinal decompression. | ||
| And we'll use regenokine. | ||
| It's a very potent, anti-inflammatory. | ||
| It'll relax all the muscles around that area. | ||
| And, you know, slowly it'll go back. | ||
| And it went back. | ||
| Now it's hard. | ||
| But you had to go in for several treatments, though? | ||
| The regenokine? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think it was one treatment. | ||
| One treatment did it. | ||
| I did go back again to get another treatment, but that's just because I do jiu-jitsu. | ||
| And jiu-jitsu is just always getting your neck ranked on. | ||
| I went back to get like mid-back. | ||
| I think I did one more on my neck too, but it was, I might not have, but it was more like maintenance than anything. | ||
| The big issue had been resolved. | ||
| And then I started strengthening because I never really did anything to strengthen my lower back, my neck, any of those things while I was training jiu-jitsu in the beginning. | ||
| I just worked out normal stuff. | ||
| I lifted weights. | ||
| But doesn't deadlifting and I don't know if you did these things, but deadlifting and squatting without, I squat lightweight without a belt. | ||
| Doesn't that automatically strengthen your lower back? | ||
| I thought it automatically kind of did. | ||
| Well, I mean, it does a little bit, but it depends on what you're doing. | ||
| The not-to-focused exercises that we were just doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Those are just lower back. | ||
| Squats are really for your legs. | ||
| But it does your lower back, but also it gets compressed because you're carrying weight in your shoulders. | ||
| But I do belt squats, which I really like. | ||
| So what belt squats are, it's a different machine. | ||
| There's another one out there, too, that was created by Louis Simmons from Westside Barbell. | ||
| And it's a strap that goes around you and it goes to a cable that goes in between your legs and the weight is pulling down from your hips. | ||
| So it's not on your shoulders compressing your spine, which is great if you have a back issue. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So you can squat a lot of weight, but all of it is like resting on your hips. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I can definitely feel the difference in my strength when I squat and when I don't. | ||
| Like I'm a guy who needs to lift weights. | ||
| I wrestled with guys and played football with guys who were naturally just shredded and did not need. | ||
| It was annoying to them to lift weights. | ||
| Not that it didn't benefit them, but they were just very muscle bound and they kind of didn't need it. | ||
| I need to lift weights. | ||
| Well, everybody needs it if you're competing against elite guys. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They're doing it and you have great genetics and they have great genetics and they're doing strength conditioning and you're not. | ||
| Right, they're going to win. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or at least they're going to have at least some kind of an advantage. | ||
| But I tell everybody like my age, I'm 52, it's like, do a circuit, do a 40-minute weight circuit, do three sets of, just go, just, you got to do it. | ||
| Because I think it affects your, I'm not an expert on this or anything, but I think it affects your testosterone. | ||
| I can feel. | ||
| Oh, it definitely does. | ||
| I can feel it. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Lifting weights definitely affects your testosterone. | ||
| Here's another way to boost your testosterone. | ||
| Cold plunge before you lift weights. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| Or if you don't have that, cold shower after winter. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| You do that before you lift weights, before any kind of training, actually. | ||
| You know, because there's been some negative press lately on cold punges and hypertrophy. | ||
| But it's all about doing it right after lifting weights, which is, you're never supposed to do that anyway. | ||
| You're not supposed to, The inflammation helps you because your body heals and then it gets stronger. | ||
| And you don't want to kill the inflammation right after you work out. | ||
| And the cold is killing the inflammation. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So I do that. | ||
| I do that. | ||
| We just moved into a new building, Jim in the building. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| And that's great. | ||
| Yeah, we just bought a condo in New York. | ||
| Right in time for socialism. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Right in time for the fucking communist takeover. | ||
| Right in time for all of us to have to share. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to have to share. | ||
| You're going to have to have immigrants move into your apartment. | ||
| I mean, I just did, I just, 20 years living with roommates, and I just finally got married and bought a place. | ||
| This is the first time you've had your own place? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Whoa. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Well, no, no, no. | ||
| Not the first time I had my own place. | ||
| We were renting, we rented for four years, but this is the first time I've bought something. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So I bought property in New York City. | ||
| I don't know if that's a good idea or not, buying things. | ||
| I go back and forth on it. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like all problems. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Depends on where you are. | ||
| New York City to me seems like a fucking time bomb. | ||
| It's like there's a whole bunch of crazy people with a bunch of wacky ideas and they're getting voted in. | ||
| Good luck with all that. | ||
| And your options are them or the guy from fucking Guardian Angels. | ||
| Curtis Lewa. | ||
| Curtis Sleewa. | ||
| What if he comes into office and he goes, everybody wears berets now? | ||
| Listen, it's a beret city now. | ||
| If you have the beret, the things he's saying make sense. | ||
| Like a lot of the stuff he says makes sense. | ||
| If he didn't have the beret, I'd be like, maybe I'll take it a little more seriously. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Paint? | ||
| Where's your cigarette holder? | ||
| No, I love it. | ||
| I love the Guardian because they don't have weapons, right? | ||
| Isn't that their whole thing? | ||
| I came after that whole initiative, but I do like the idea. | ||
| I do like the idea of someone out there to protect the public other than cops. | ||
| Yeah, there he is. | ||
| He's been doing this forever. | ||
| I remember in, I guess it was the 90s, I was in New York City, and I was in traffic with my girlfriend at the time. | ||
| She was sitting next to me, and we were looking at this guardian angel guy. | ||
| I go, why do you have to wear the hat? | ||
| Like, what is it with the hat? | ||
| Like, why do they make them wear that fucking hat? | ||
| And her and I are just laughing. | ||
| The guy looks at me and goes, fuck you. | ||
| Like, with a real angry face. | ||
| I'm like, hey, that's not serving and protecting, sir. | ||
| If you don't think that hat is funny, the fuck you. | ||
| Like, what if I say no, fuck you, and I get out and I want to fight? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| You're not helping. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| I would hate to lose to a guy with that hat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably you're not going to. | ||
| Imagine anybody that really knows how to fight is not going to put that fucking hat on. | ||
| You're going to be like, what am I doing? | ||
| But those guys, like, I think that what they did is if there was a disturbance or something or somebody was acting nuts on the subway, they would just surround the person. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As long as the guy doesn't have a gun. | ||
| Or a fucking samurai sword or whatever. | ||
| Or a tiger in his apartment. | ||
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Yeah, there's a bunch of those. | |
| Yeah, yeah, that was a big thing for a while. | ||
| Guys having just wild life in their apartments. | ||
| Tigers and crocodiles and shit. | ||
| Wasn't there a thing with Curtis Sleewell where there was a fake crime and he was saving someone, but it wasn't real? | ||
| Didn't something like that happen back in the day? | ||
| I don't remember that one. | ||
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I remember Jamie's going to look up. | |
| There was something like that. | ||
| I remember. | ||
| Maybe it was an exaggeration or something. | ||
| John Gotti Jr. was brought to trial for trying to kill him. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah, for saying stuff about his dad. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| He got, I think it was just a hung jury five times and he never got convicted of it. | ||
| But yeah, that was a thing. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we tried to shoot him in a cab. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cabs are bad enough. | ||
| That was John Gotti Jr. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| You know, John Gotti III's an MMA fighter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's fucking good. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's real good. | ||
| He fought Floyd Mayweather. | ||
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I saw that. | |
| It was crazy. | ||
| I think they fought twice. | ||
| Admitted he and the Guardian Angels faked heroic subway rescues for publicity. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So in 1992, Sleewood admitted he and the Guardian Angels faked heroic subway rescues for publicity. | ||
| He also admitted to having claimed falsely that three off-duty transit police officers had kidnapped him. | ||
| Sleewood explained at the time. | ||
| That's got to be some jail time, right? | ||
| Should be, right? | ||
| I mean, if you're saying off-duty transit police officers, so you're accusing police officers of a crime. | ||
| So what you're doing is not just lying, but you're also putting the police officers in jeopardy because you're falsely claiming that these guys are outlaws. | ||
| He claimed at the time stunts were intended to underscore the dangers of the subways. | ||
| Who doesn't know about the dangers of the subway? | ||
| Yeah, just let the natural stuff play out. | ||
| I want it. | ||
| I've literally ridden the subway three times in my fucking life. | ||
| Keep that up, Jamie. | ||
| And I'm very aware of the dangers of the fucking subway. | ||
| When the Guardian Angels first became patrolling streets and subways, New York City was experiencing some of the highest crime rates. | ||
| I feel the incidents we staged led to some improvements. | ||
| He said, oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Jesse Smollett. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's before Jesse. | ||
| Yeah, it's a Jesse Smallette. | ||
| DJ, before Jesse. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| That guy stuck to his story. | ||
| Even the guys who beat up the person, even when they flipped, even after they flipped, he stuck to his story. | ||
| Is that an actor or is that an actor? | ||
| Bro, he showed up at the hotel and had the noose still around his neck. | ||
| That's what happens when you let actors write the scripts. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like Amber Heard when she was on trial with Depp. | ||
| Like, kind of similar. | ||
| Like, when you let the actors write the script, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| Hold up. | ||
| What happened now? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Netflix sets Jesse Smola documentary with new evidence. | ||
| Alleged hate crime hoax might be a true story. | ||
| He never backtracked on it. | ||
| Who's funding this? | ||
| This is new. | ||
| I just Googled his name and there's like the last two days, there's stories about this document. | ||
| It could just be a provincial documentary. | ||
| Whoever his PR team is. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| You guys rule. | ||
| It should be at least a documentary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you got there? | ||
| A little tiny cigar? | ||
| Yeah, little tiny ones. | ||
| You got a big one, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're mixing it up. | ||
| I'm making it up. | ||
| You're not sure what you want? | ||
| No, this is before I go on. | ||
| Usually, I just don't want to take the commitment to this. | ||
| Oh, I feel you. | ||
| I like them little ones. | ||
| I like those little ones. | ||
| Ron White does those. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| They're fantastic. | ||
| Monte Cristo's. | ||
| They're good because if you don't want to commit to a full cigar, like Ray Viro on stage, you can. | ||
| But Ron White inhales these bitches. | ||
| Does he, really? | ||
| Like an animal. | ||
| You're going to tell me it caures his lower back? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Well, he plays golf, so he must have a good lower back. | ||
| You know? | ||
| By the way, speaking of which, I watched Happy Gilmore 2 last night. | ||
| It's fucking hilarious. | ||
| I like it too. | ||
| I just watched it. | ||
| I love Adam Sandler. | ||
| I love those movies. | ||
| Because you know exactly what you're going to get. | ||
| They're always fun. | ||
| Like, critics hate him, but it's more information that you get that critics suck. | ||
| I love them too. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| I think he's great. | ||
| They're fucking funny. | ||
| I think he's great. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| And what I love about him is he doesn't care, and he just keeps moving with what he wants to do. | ||
| With his people. | ||
| He has a group of people that he loves and that are creative and then he just keeps going with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think he's very funny anyway. | ||
| He's very funny. | ||
| I saw his stand-up live in Vegas once. | ||
| Him and Rob Schneider, they killed. | ||
| It was really fun. | ||
| I hadn't seen Adam in forever. | ||
| I hadn't seen him since we did Zookeeper together, which was like, it had to be like 15 years ago, somewhere around then. | ||
| So he's got the same people that he always works with. | ||
| He's got the same directors he always works with. | ||
| He's always working with Spade and Schneider and all the guys he knows. | ||
| So it's like real fun on the set. | ||
| Everybody's friendly. | ||
| Same as Kevin James. | ||
| Kevin James rocks it the exact same way. | ||
| You go to his set. | ||
| Everybody's friendly. | ||
| Everybody's having fun. | ||
| There's no weird fucking ego bullshit with the actors. | ||
| Everybody's pals. | ||
| They're all pals. | ||
| They all write for each other. | ||
| So they're all sitting around like the, when they're, when we're doing table reads, everyone's laughing, cracking jokes. | ||
| They're adding lines. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Good times. | ||
| Good times. | ||
| And that's how you make the best stuff. | ||
| Is the best stuff? | ||
| When it's loose and playful and fun and everybody can be creative and there's no weirdness there. | ||
| The enemy of comedy is tension. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Like the tension you have between co-workers. | ||
| This is like, you know, Phil Hartman told me that Saturday Night Live was like the most stressful thing that he ever did in his life because there was so much tension because everybody behind the scene was backstabbing everybody. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| And Brewer says the same thing. | ||
| You ever heard Brewer talk about it? | ||
| Brewer's a good dude, man. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's really a good guy. | ||
| I was on the road with him a little bit. | ||
| He's a really good guy. | ||
| And very like the quintessential theater act. | ||
| Like you see him in a theater. | ||
| I go watch him after I was done with my set and it's like he fills the space. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He's a great theater actor. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's a big act. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like the big stage is actually great for his act. | ||
| But he murders in clubs. | ||
| He'll murder in an arena. | ||
| He's old school. | ||
| He's a great person too. | ||
| Like what I love about him is like he had no desire to be like super famous, no desire. | ||
| All he wanted to do is kill. | ||
| All he wanted to do is be great at comedy and just live in his own world. | ||
| He lived in Jersey in a nice suburban community, just chilled. | ||
| Didn't need fancy cars or any bullshit. | ||
| He just loves being funny. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| I love the idea of just like waking up every day and it's like, how can I be better? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| You know who's the best at that? | ||
| Attel. | ||
| Attel. | ||
| And maybe the best comic alive. | ||
| And maybe one of the, I mean, in my book, top five, top six of all time. | ||
| Yes, for sure. | ||
| And he's effortless. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Effortless. | ||
| But he's always working on his act, which is kind of torturous. | ||
| It's a torturous thing. | ||
| If you're always tinkering, you're always working on it and it's like, it's never done. | ||
| It's always like you're in the mix. | ||
| You're like, I don't know. | ||
| And it's like, if that's what you love to do, then it's great. | ||
| It's like you have to teach yourself that that's what you love to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Instead of like, God, I can't wait till this hour is ready. | ||
| Like right now, I really only have like 40 minutes. | ||
| Maybe I could do 45. | ||
| I could do like 45 minutes, which is like a year after my special. | ||
| But once you get it down, it's sloppy. | ||
| There's some shit in there that like needs some work. | ||
| But then you have, like, even if you're going to go back and make corrections on it, you have the scaffolding for it, which is very important. | ||
| It's like the scaffolding. | ||
| It's like that kind of hard stuff is done. | ||
| Not that new stuff won't come in. | ||
| It might still come in, but you have the scaffolding for it now. | ||
| That's exactly how I describe it. | ||
| I'm so glad you said it that way. | ||
| That's what all joke structure is like scaffolding, and then inside you put the funny. | ||
| You have to have a premise, a thing you think is ridiculous, and then that's your scaffolding. | ||
| And then it's all your perspectives on it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You know who was the best at that? | ||
| Richard Jenny. | ||
| I was just thinking about him this morning. | ||
| I was just thinking about him in terms of a comic that I don't know if you knew him or not, but like I watched him as a kid and he blew me away with how good he was. | ||
| He was so good. | ||
| And then I talked to Wattel in New York. | ||
| He's like, he was the guy. | ||
| He was the guy. | ||
| He was really the guy. | ||
| In the 1980s, he was the guy. | ||
| I apologize if you've heard me tell the story before, people. | ||
| But he worked at Eastside Comedy Club and he was there for the weekend. | ||
| And I went there on Sunday. | ||
| And this dude, Pete, who was the MC, was depressed. | ||
| I go, why are you depressed? | ||
| He goes, because Richard Jenny did a totally different hour. | ||
| Both shows Friday and both shows Saturday. | ||
| Never repeated a joke and fucking murdered. | ||
| And he goes, and I want to quit comedy. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, people like that will frustrate you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pete was a comic. | ||
| But watching him as a kid, I was like, this is the, because we're Italians. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So we're watching it as, but he's funny no matter what. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But just especially from being an Italian family and watching him, I'm like, this is the funniest thing. | ||
| We were dying. | ||
| We'd quote him. | ||
| He was so good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was so good. | ||
| And you had to see him live. | ||
| It's one of those things, like you see, he's got some great specials. | ||
| A steaming pile of me is great. | ||
| Clatypus Man. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| And his first one was The Boy from New York City. | ||
| That's great too. | ||
| It's a great one. | ||
| He has that Jaws story of being on the road and being so bored and watching Johnny Jaws. | ||
| Jaws just hits you in the face with how stupid it is. | ||
| It's such a great bit, and it's so punched up all the way through. | ||
| And I just, I absolutely love that. | ||
| He was the best, what I was getting at, as maximizing the scaffolding. | ||
| He would take a bit, and he would find every possible angle. | ||
| And right when you thought he was done, it would get funnier. | ||
| It would go deeper and funnier and more ridiculous. | ||
| And there'd be callbacks. | ||
| And he was so good, but he fucking hated the fact that he wasn't Jim Carrey. | ||
| He hated the fact that he wasn't a movie star. | ||
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| He wanted to be a sitcom star, so he did a show on UPN, Pilatipus Man, same as a special. | ||
| They called it that. | ||
| And then that didn't, UPN was like, it was a new network and nobody was watching it. | ||
| It was one of those things. | ||
| It's like, if you had a show there, it's like, now you can't have a show on NBC. | ||
| It's not that good. | ||
| And the network's not getting any eyes. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But it was okay. | ||
| You know, it lasted a little bit. | ||
| And then he did the mask with Jim Carrey. | ||
| He did some other stuff. | ||
| He was good. | ||
| And now he's a good actor. | ||
| He's a good actor, but he didn't have the classic good looks that would, not that you need him. | ||
| Like, look at Rodney. | ||
| He didn't have it either. | ||
| Or John Lovis didn't have it either. | ||
| But it's like he wanted to be a movie star, and he was bummed out that he was on the road all the time. | ||
| And I would, every time I would do radio, you know, there was always like the guy that would drive you. | ||
| And I would be like, who's the most miserable fuck you ever have to drive? | ||
| And they all said Richard Chen. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| They all said that. | ||
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No. | |
| It was me. | ||
| It was like a stake in my heart. | ||
| No, he's the best. | ||
| There's got to be an opposite. | ||
| You're the funniest guy. | ||
| There's got to be an opposite to that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There's a disdain and then anger and frustration, but it led him to be a fucking genius comedian, man. | ||
| And no one talks about him anymore. | ||
| I don't feel like anyone talks about him. | ||
| I try to carry the torch. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Because he affected me a lot when I was a kid. | ||
| I remember I used to kind of, one time I was an open micer, and I found myself, I physically got sick. | ||
| I was like, oh, no. | ||
| I sounded exactly like him on stage. | ||
| Like I was copying him. | ||
| I was like, oh, no, don't do that. | ||
| But it's just because I loved him so much. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| He was such a fan. | ||
| But as soon as that happens, it goes, I got to stop listening to this guy. | ||
| I got to get away from him. | ||
| I got to stop listening to him. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| But it was just, I just wanted to be him. | ||
| I admired him so much. | ||
| I wanted to be like him. | ||
| But that's such a great thing with the scaffolding and it's like punched up all the way through and then just walking up there and knowing it's like, I'm about to let this loose on this crowd. | ||
| And it's like watching them react to it. | ||
| It's like they're doubled over and you just keep coming at. | ||
| It's like when you're fight, if you're fighting somebody like a boxer, like a Pacquiao in his prime, where he'd turn you, he'd hit you three times, turn you, hit you three times, turn you, and then hit you three more. | ||
| And you're like, I can't move. | ||
| Like there's no defense to this. | ||
| So that's what that's what that is like is like just keep coming with punches, punches, punches, punches. | ||
| And I love a big chunk like that. | ||
| Like one of my favorite bits of the last few years, Brian Simpson has this bit about the song Wet Ass Pussy, but it goes all the way back to Queen Elizabeth. | ||
| It's like this amazing long bit. | ||
| I don't want to ruin it, but the end of it is fucking, he wraps it up with a bow. | ||
| It's his closer. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I would like leave the green room when I knew he was going to close just so I could watch the wet ass pussy. | ||
| I would ask him to do it, please. | ||
| I'd go, please do the wet ass pussy bet, please. | ||
| Because it was such a, it's like a poly. | ||
| But Brian's a real writer. | ||
| Brian sits down and writes, which is one of the things that I always try to tell young guys. | ||
| I'm like, I know you like to write on stage. | ||
| I know you write when you're with your friends. | ||
| I know you come up with great premises and you work them out on stage. | ||
| But that extra step of sitting down and writing is fucking critical, man. | ||
| It's big. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's big because you can get stuff there that you wouldn't get. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's got to be a routine. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's like get up, do whatever you do, stretch. | ||
| And then that's what I do now. | ||
| There's like stretch and then delay coffee. | ||
| That's another big thing I'm trying is to delay coffee. | ||
| Get, because the gym is in the building, get a workout first, right out of bed, and then come back up, cold shower, and then get a cup of coffee and then write. | ||
| Do that cold shower first, dude. | ||
| Do that cold shower right away. | ||
| And then you won't even need the coffee. | ||
| You'll be like, yeah. | ||
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Woo! | |
| And then write into a workout. | ||
| And then go right into a workout. | ||
| And then a hot shower after? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I do sauna after the workout. | ||
| That's what I usually do. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the most important thing. | ||
| I used to do steam room when I was at the gym. | ||
| Steamroom's okay, but the problem with steam rooms, you really can't get it as hot because dry air won't like scald your skin. | ||
| Like wet air will poach you. | ||
| If you do 195 degrees wet, you're going to get burned. | ||
| Like it's going to literally poach you like an egg. | ||
| But you can do 195 dry in a sauna. | ||
| And that's why I don't know much about the infrared saunas. | ||
| I don't think there's the same amount of data on them. | ||
| It's definitely better than doing nothing. | ||
| But I think that the real sauna, like we have a salouse sauna in the back here, that motherfucker will go up to 210, 215 if you wanted to. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And that dry sauna is where all the research from Finland comes out. | ||
| They did, over 20 years, they found that if you do the sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at 175 degrees, it's a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality. | ||
| Didn't they do that? | ||
| Was a study in Italy? | ||
| They did a study of Italians who were doing sauna and it was something similar to that. | ||
| It's all similar because it's all great for reduction of inflammation, increase of red blood cells. | ||
| It has like a mild EPO effect on your endurance. | ||
| Like one of the things that I've done, like every time I've been injured where I couldn't do cardio, I just did sauna every day. | ||
| And I'd go back to cardio and it was not that much of a drop-off. | ||
| Not like it used to be. | ||
| Like it used to be like if I got hurt, I couldn't hit the bag. | ||
| I couldn't do cardio for a while. | ||
| And then I would go back to doing it like, oh, God, I'm so out of shape. | ||
| So that drop-off doesn't happen as much, not nearly as much if you do sauna every day. | ||
| And all like the Eastern Block, Dan Gable told me that that was something that he learned in his wrestling days. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That all the Eastern Block guys were all doing sauna after training. | ||
| And it's essentially like static cardio. | ||
| So like I wear a whoopstrap and I'll go in the sauna after training and I'll look at my app and I'm at 145 beats per minute just sitting there because I'll go straight from working out. | ||
| So like I'll do rounds on the bag and then heart rate elevated, go right in the sauna and it keeps your heart rate up. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because you're fucking struggling. | ||
| You're struggling. | ||
| Your body's struggling because it's already overheated from the workout, and then your body's in 195 degrees, and your heart's just pounding. | ||
| But it's like static cardio. | ||
| That's really something, it's really good for you. | ||
| And then I stretch in there, which is the best. | ||
| That is great. | ||
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Stretch. | |
| I used to do Bikram. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| Yeah, I used to do it, and I want to get back into it now that I'm not paying for a gym. | ||
| That's what you should do. | ||
| That's what you should do. | ||
| I want to do that, and I want to go back to boxing. | ||
| I used to do boxing. | ||
| A bunch of comics went to boxing in New York, and we took a class together. | ||
| A little bit to the body, but nothing. | ||
| He just took us through the training. | ||
| And I mean, I wrestled a little bit in college, and I got to say, the training was very, very, that's why I liked it. | ||
| It was very, very tough. | ||
| It was very hard. | ||
| Boxing's tough. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, but a lot of the boxing training for civilians isn't. | ||
| But this guy, his name is Steve Frank. | ||
| He put us through it. | ||
| And it's like, it's, it was, he was like, would not let up. | ||
| After an hour, you're like, oh, my God. | ||
| It's like, you got to get used to it. | ||
| You can't be on the road to it because you got to get used to it. | ||
| Because if you don't get used to it, then it shoots your whole day. | ||
| You're exhausted for the rest of the day. | ||
| It's like, I can't do anything. | ||
| That spots. | ||
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I get, you know, that shit shape. | |
| That's like, I always avoid doing leg days on days I do stand-up. | ||
| And I've done it before where I've done leg days, and then I go on stage that night, and I'm always like struggling. | ||
| It's just too hard. | ||
| It's too much of a burden on your entire system. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You know, squats and lunges and pulling the sled and all that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At the end of it. | ||
| But it feels good. | ||
| Like, this suffering is, it's like a Goggins thing where it's like this suffering. | ||
| Like put yourself in an uncomfortable situation every day. | ||
| And then when you come out of it, it just feels so good. | ||
| I try to tell that to everybody. | ||
| I'm like, I know it sucks, but please do it. | ||
| It'll make the rest of your life suck less. | ||
| It really will. | ||
| And you don't have to do what I do. | ||
| You could just, I mean, just put a weighted vest on and go walk around your block. | ||
| You don't have to do that. | ||
| It's not that hard. | ||
| You just have to do something. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Just do something that sucks. | ||
| Do 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 bodyweight squats every day. | ||
| Do that. | ||
| It's not that hard. | ||
| Do it in sets of, if you can't do 20, do it in sets of 10. | ||
| Just do 10 sets of 10 for the push-ups. | ||
| Build up to it. | ||
| Tell yourself, you're going to do 20 today, 20 this week. | ||
| Next week, you're going to do 25. | ||
| Then before you know it, you're doing 100. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just do that. | ||
| Just do fucking something. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Yeah, and you feel so good after it. | ||
| That's the whole thing. | ||
| And that's the time I try to time it with when I'm writing because it's like you want to feel all, you want to feel that energy while you're writing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do my best writing late at night. | ||
| I do my best writing when everyone's asleep. | ||
| That's another secret where it's like the guys who write after the set. | ||
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| Yes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's a, that's a secret where it's like, I'm done. | ||
| I'm going to watch. | ||
| I'm going to de-escalate now and go to sleep. | ||
| Especially on the road, you're doing an hour, two shows. | ||
| You're doing an hour, two shows, and then you come back. | ||
| You're like, all right, I want to de. | ||
| I traveled all day. | ||
| I want to de-escalate to go to sleep. | ||
| It's like, you know, trick yourself a little bit. | ||
| Let me just look at these notes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let me just look at the notes that I have on the set that I just did. | ||
| It doesn't suck. | ||
| That's the crazy thing about it. | ||
| It doesn't suck to do. | ||
| It's not like you hate it. | ||
| It's not like painful. | ||
| No. | ||
| But you avoid it. | ||
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You avoid it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You avoid it because you're like, now I did it. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| I want to go to sleep. | ||
| It's like, nah, just take another, just check in on it. | ||
| Just check in on the act. | ||
| Even 20 minutes, you might yield one of your best punchlines. | ||
| It's just like every now and then, like the universe will reward you if you put in that work. | ||
| You just sit down and put in that work. | ||
| I think that's with fucking everything in the world. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| I was watching this video today on Usik's training on Alexander Usik, who's just, did you see that fight? | ||
| Jesus Christ, dude. | ||
| I mean, he's one of the best of all time. | ||
| One of the absolute best heavyweights that's ever lived. | ||
| The thing that was remarkable about, and I agree, the thing that's remarkable about that fight is Dubois came out the first round and was aggressive. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, right. | ||
| Dubois is fucking dangerous. | ||
| It's coming, dude. | ||
| And he's like, this is an opportunity and I'm not going to lose it. | ||
| And Usik felt that. | ||
| They said between rounds, he felt it. | ||
| And he's like, okay, okay, I can't let this guy get confidence. | ||
| So he stepped in the center of the ring and just started countering him and not giving up any more ground. | ||
| Yeah, and cutting these angles. | ||
| He just downloads what you're doing and starts adding in feints. | ||
| And, you know, Joshua said that when he trained, when he fought him rather, that at the last round, he had never been more tired in his life. | ||
| He just couldn't believe how tired Usak makes you because he's constantly fainting and moving. | ||
| So I watched his training routine today. | ||
| Jesus Christ, man. | ||
| Like, no wonder he's in the same shape. | ||
| He would swim sometimes for five hours a day. | ||
| Five hours of just laps in the pool. | ||
| He would do, he starts his day at 4.30 in the morning. | ||
| So 4.30 in the morning, he gets up, eats breakfast, and has his first training at 5. | ||
| At 5, it's all conditioning. | ||
| It's all like running, rowing, biking, takes a break, eats again, takes a little nap, back in the gym again in like two hours. | ||
| And then he's sparring, boxing, doing all that workout, then eats, takes a break, relaxes a little bit. | ||
| Evening session is boxing. | ||
| And evening session, he's sparring. | ||
| He's, you know, he's hitting mitts. | ||
| He's hitting the bag. | ||
| Gets up in the morning and does it all over again. | ||
| And it's like, it's all like this. | ||
| That's that reverse effort that I was just showing you. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's the machine that Louis Simmons created that is fucking phenomenal for your lower back. | ||
| It decompresses your back actively on the downswing and strengthens it on the upswing. | ||
| And Louis, who was a genius, who was one of the only guys we ever traveled to do a podcast with. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, it's like, I got to get this guy on film. | ||
| He's like a legitimate strength genius. | ||
| And he developed that machine because he had a bulging disc. | ||
| And they were like, oh, you got to get your disc fused because he was a powerlifter. | ||
| Fucking complete maniac. | ||
| Complete psychopath on steroids his whole life. | ||
| He was an amazing person. | ||
| And he was like, that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| If compression is what the problem was, decompression will fix it. | ||
| And he devised that machine to actively decompress on the downswing. | ||
| So strengthening all the tissue around that and then decompressing it on the downswing. | ||
| Wow, that makes sense. | ||
| He must have had like a, did he have some kind of an engineering background? | ||
| He must have to create that. | ||
| There's Louis, the fucking man. | ||
| To create that thing. | ||
| Such a fun guy to talk to, too. | ||
| He's just such a fucking psychopath, an intelligent psychopath. | ||
| And look at his back. | ||
| West side rules. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Swords and knives and shit. | ||
| Just a fun, fun dude. | ||
| But genius when it came to strength and conditioning. | ||
| I mean, so many guys like MMA fighters went and traded with him. | ||
| Matt the Immortal Brown did a lot of training with him and then, you know, used a lot of his stuff with, you know, Matt sells equipment now too. | ||
| It's a lot of the stuff that he worked on with Louie. | ||
| But it's like, you know, he'd have all these guys that were like these world champion lifters. | ||
| I mean, these guys are fucking gorillas. | ||
| Gorillas, man. | ||
| Big shaved head gorillas. | ||
| But Louie was the man. | ||
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| And he, so that machine he devised just specifically for that. | ||
| But Usik's training, a lot of it is like ladderboard, you know, on the ground, you know, the ladder where you're doing the steps. | ||
| It's like constant shuffling back and forth, spinning. | ||
| It's all these punches with medicine balls. | ||
| It's like when you watch him train, it makes sense because he's training specifically to move differently than everybody else does. | ||
| It's all these constant movements and switches and angles and strength. | ||
| And, you know, he's a legit heavyweight now. | ||
| He's 227 for the Dua fight. | ||
| And, you know, this is coming from a guy who was the undisputed cruiserweight champion. | ||
| So he's a small heavyweight, but the best heavyweights were small, except for Foreman and a couple other guys. | ||
| Like Tyson was small. | ||
| Ali was not big. | ||
| He's exactly the same size as Ali when Ali was in his prime. | ||
| Holyfield. | ||
| Holyfield was not big. | ||
| Holyfield came this way. | ||
| But he unified that cruiserweight division. | ||
| He didn't get any gifts. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He went around and unified it and then moved up and then unified. | ||
| I mean, it's just. | ||
| How many weeks is that training camp? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it has to be three months plus. | ||
| I mean, I would imagine the most difficult opponent for him is Tyson Fury because Tyson Fury is 6'9. | ||
| He is an incredible boxer. | ||
| He's one of the best boxers of all time, regardless of any division. | ||
| Just skillful. | ||
| Tyson Fury is a skillful boxer. | ||
| He's slick and intelligent. | ||
| And, you know, people talk about like, what's next for Usik? | ||
| Should it be Joseph Parker? | ||
| Yeah, that would be a great fight. | ||
| Joseph Parker deserves it. | ||
| But what I want to see before the hay is in the barn, I want to see one more. | ||
| One more Tyson Fury. | ||
| Because Fury's the only one that's given him problems, the only one that came close. | ||
| He hurt him to the body a bunch of times in this fight. | ||
| He was lighting him up with a jab. | ||
| You know, those fights were close. | ||
| They were very close. | ||
| They were close. | ||
| I mean, Usyk almost stopped him in the first fight. | ||
| And I think it was the ninth round. | ||
| He could have. | ||
| And he pulled back when the referee was calling it a knockdown where he could have caught him one or two more times. | ||
| And that would have been a wrap. | ||
| But other than that, no one has given Usik's the problem that Tyson Fury's given him. | ||
| And I think you give Tyson one more shot at it where, I mean, he's training now. | ||
| I know he's posting up a lot of stuff about his times. | ||
| Like he's doing a lot of endurance work now. | ||
| So he's geared up. | ||
| He's going to have a fight before. | ||
| He's got to have another fight. | ||
| He's going to have to. | ||
| Nah, right into the fucking car. | ||
| This guy's a veteran. | ||
| He's been doing it forever. | ||
| Right into the Fury. | ||
| Right into the fire, rather. | ||
| See, I want to see Fury and Joshua. | ||
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| That's an all-England. | ||
| Oh, I'd love to see that, too. | ||
| I'd love to see that. | ||
| would sell out like Wembley. | ||
| They're talking about doing... | ||
| It kept, you know, they were supposed to fight. | ||
| They thought they were on a, you know, and the money was never right or something. | ||
| But now with like Turkey Al-Ashik in the mix, you know. | ||
| Well, if they decided to do Parker versus Usuk, which is a great fight, I think that would be the fight that they would have underneath that. | ||
| That would be amazing, Tyson and Joshua. | ||
| But they're talking right now about doing Anthony Joshua Jake Paul. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| Jake Paul apparently wants that fight. | ||
| And he agreed to, I think it was 99% to one, where Joshua gets 99% of the money and he gets 1%. | ||
| See if that's true. | ||
| I believe I read that online. | ||
| That might be just some shenanigans. | ||
| But look, regardless of what you think about Jake Paul. | ||
| I think Jake Paul's a great athlete. | ||
| I don't know if him or Logan placed in states in Ohio in wrestling. | ||
| It may seem like nothing to people on a national level, but if you're placing in states in Ohio, you're a great athlete. | ||
| Both of them are great athletes. | ||
| People think they're jokes because they were famous when they were kids. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Like Mario Lopez. | ||
| People look at Mario Lopez like Mario Lopez is like saved by the bell guy. | ||
| No, Mario Lopez can box. | ||
| He can fight. | ||
| He does Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| He's a very good wrestler. | ||
| I don't know if you've ever seen that guy that does I'll give you a thousand dollars if you could take me down. | ||
| Have you ever seen that guy? | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| That guy's from my high school in Ohio. | ||
| What is his name? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I forget his name. | ||
| Something Greek, but like he's a guy who, he was a Ohio State champ and maybe a runner-up his senior year. | ||
| And then he went to Cleveland State and was just a guy who was like, I don't think he did anything in college really, but the way he wrestles, I could see by the way he wrestles, and it's a good video series. | ||
| It's just like very smooth. | ||
| Very smooth. | ||
| He's very, very talented. | ||
| Oh, he's super talented. | ||
| Point is, Mario Lopez wrestled him and gave him a fucking great scramble. | ||
| That's really something. | ||
| A bunch of great roles. | ||
| A bunch. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| Mario Lopez is legit, like really legit. | ||
| And you could say, fuck the save by the bell pussy. | ||
| I'll fucking smack him. | ||
| That dude will fuck you up, man. | ||
| You can say all that until you get into it with him. | ||
| Giorgio Polis. | ||
| That's his shout out to Giorgio. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Because that guy wrestles dudes way bigger than him. | ||
| So check out this Mario one. | ||
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I love that. | |
| So, by the way, Mario Lopez is in his fucking 50s. | ||
| I didn't see this one. | ||
| He's in his 50s. | ||
| Now, watch this. | ||
| Scoot ahead a little so you can see some of this. | ||
| Scoot ahead. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Mario can fucking wrestle, dude. | ||
| Like, legit wrestle and scramble and avoid takedowns. | ||
| Oh, you got him there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Mario shoots in on a single. | ||
| Like, that's some good scramble. | ||
| And again, in his fucking 50s, man. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| He's also competing in jiu-jitsu, and I know he's won jiu-jitsu matches. | ||
| Like, these are good fucking scrambles, man. | ||
| Legit. | ||
| Yeah, I love it. | ||
| I love watching this series, too. | ||
| No, the dude's good. | ||
| And he's done it with some national champions and a bunch of people. | ||
| He always does an interview beforehand. | ||
| It's like, what discipline are you from? | ||
| How many years? | ||
| And then he's like, what do you, from one to 10, 10 being, you're going to take me down? | ||
| What do you think that the odds are that you take me down? | ||
| A lot of them say 10. | ||
| A lot of them say 10, dude. | ||
| And some of them are really big guys. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It just goes to show you it's like, that guy's tough and he's a technician. | ||
| Well, that's the whole thing about grappling. | ||
| It's technique. | ||
| It's everything. | ||
| It's everything. | ||
| It's in jujitsu and judo and everything. | ||
| It's just about technique. | ||
| This is great old judo clip of this guy. | ||
| I mean, I want to say he was in his 70s at the time. | ||
| And it's a black and white film of all his younger black belts rolling with him, like doing standing, I don't know what they call it, standing judo practice. | ||
| And he's like effortlessly avoiding these takedowns with balance and technique. | ||
| It doesn't ever look like he's like exploding or really using a lot of force and just flips these guys to the ground. | ||
| It's gorgeous to watch. | ||
| It's just like, my goodness. | ||
| Because you know, you're looking at that guy like there's no, that guy's not a brute. | ||
| He's not some big giant 200-pound muscle guy. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| Fucking super athlete. | ||
| He's just technique. | ||
| Just technically. | ||
| Nike and it's also, it's also, it's very loose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See if you can find that, Jamie. | ||
| It's like old judo guy trains with younger students. | ||
| And it's old. | ||
| It's like black and white. | ||
| I got the Jake Paul. | ||
| There's a lot of rumors that it says that 1991 was accepted on his side, but I can't find like where he said it. | ||
| Just like a lot of Instagram. | ||
| Maybe he doesn't care about the money. | ||
| Jake Paul probably doesn't care about the money. | ||
| He has plenty of money. | ||
| And if he won, oh my God, if he beat Anthony Joshua, good lord. | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| I mean, that's a big if, right? | ||
| Anthony Joshua, Olympic gold medalist, former heavyweight champion of the world. | ||
| What he did to Francis Singano, like good lord. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Do you want that, Smoke? | ||
| Yeah, I just think it's all about the promotion or whatever. | ||
| I have no idea what the actual motivation is for it. | ||
| That fight's not competitive at all. | ||
| Well, it's a dangerous fight. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Because Joshua's going to try to make an example out of him for sure. | ||
| And Will. | ||
| And Will. | ||
| I mean, Joshua's one of the biggest one-punch KO artists ever. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, he's a one-punch fucking night-night guy. | ||
| You know, he's a great boxer, you know, very skillful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Naganu fight, we all thought it's like Naganu with Fury. | ||
| It's like, wow, this guy's in the mix now. | ||
| He's in the mix. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| It's like, oh, okay. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| The difference is Fury, I think, underestimated him. | ||
| I think Fury took him super lightly. | ||
| He thought he was going to box his face off. | ||
| And that power that Francis has is legendary. | ||
| You know, Francis is like a character from a comic book. | ||
| You know, I mean, he lived in Cameroon and he worked in the sand mines when he was a boy. | ||
| It's like the Conan origin story. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like digging sand as a boy. | ||
| Just fucking shh. | ||
| Well, hopefully he got paid for it. | ||
| He got paid for it. | ||
| Here's the guy. | ||
| Check out this old dude. | ||
| And I think this dude... | ||
| I think this dude might have been 90 at the time. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| I don't know how old he is. | ||
| How old does it say he is, Jamie? | ||
| He's old as shit. | ||
| However old he is, he's at least 70, and he looks to me like he's even older than that. | ||
| Look how he's avoiding this. | ||
| That's so relaxed, man. | ||
| Just the size of the guy that's trying to throw him, who's a judo black belt, who's towering over him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Bro, effortless. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Effortless takedowns. | ||
| But it's, look at this guy. | ||
| Like, this guy hitting that hip throw and not getting any movement off that old dude at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's, look, the old dude's tiny. | ||
| He missed the tiny guy. | ||
| And everything he does is just super relaxed. | ||
| He just knows where to be where you can't throw him. | ||
| Look, look, steps in the right position. | ||
| He's not exploding. | ||
| He just anticipates your movements and meets you there. | ||
| It's like Judo, when you walk, look at that, man. | ||
| I mean, he just threw a dude that's twice his size. | ||
| He throws him like effortless. | ||
| It's kind of amazing, man. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And, you know, and you would think it's bullshit unless you've trained with a guy like that. | ||
| And then you go, wow, this is nuts, man. | ||
| It's just perfect execution of that kind of technique. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's unreal. | ||
| And when you see it in wrestling, too, it's like you see guys who they chain moves together. | ||
| And as the guy's trying to do that, they're countering with this. | ||
| And next thing you know, they're on your back and you're down. | ||
| Like, my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Such an underappreciated thing wrestling. | ||
| You know, in terms of the way we appreciate it. | ||
| I mean, I wrestle, but I was never that. | ||
| I was never like, could get that fluid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, I mean, that fluid, it's really the guys who are like top-notch. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It doesn't matter what program you come from. | ||
| It's like you could see it. | ||
| You could see this guy, Giorgio, like he has it. | ||
| It's like the flow. | ||
| Like he'll shoot for something. | ||
| And if that doesn't, he'll see where the leg and he'll adjust on the fly. | ||
| It's like the improv of it is amazing. | ||
| Yeah, it's a really underappreciated sport in terms of like the way the public perceives sports. | ||
| Everybody loves basketball. | ||
| Everybody loves baseball. | ||
| We love all these sports. | ||
| And no one appreciates wrestling. | ||
| So it never had a professional outlet for whatever dumb reason other than MMA, where it dominates. | ||
| If you look at MMA, if you look at all the disciplines of all the champions of all time. | ||
| I think wrestling has a significant lead. | ||
| I think there's more athletes that came from wrestling that became world champions than any other discipline. | ||
| Well, before everybody started cross-training, I think our training was the model. | ||
| I might be wrong, but like our training, like wrestling practice was very hard. | ||
| When I was in even an eighth grade, I was like, this is unbelievably harder than anything I've ever experienced. | ||
| So I think everybody cross-trains now. | ||
| Everybody kind of trains like that, but we were the first where it's like you get in, it's like you warm up, and it's just military-like in its execution of practice. | ||
| You have to be in practice. | ||
| You're just wiped out at the end of practice. | ||
| And then you have to cut weight after that. | ||
| So then it's mental strength on top of that. | ||
| That's a giant factor with wrestling. | ||
| And one of the things about wrestlers is they revel in the fact that they suffer more than anybody else. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They take it as a badge of courage. | ||
| It's like a badge of honor that they'll display. | ||
| Like Mike over there, he fucking suffers more than anybody. | ||
| That's why he wins. | ||
| Mike's a psycho. | ||
| He's up at 3 o'clock in the morning eating raw eggs. | ||
| Those are the guys that everyone was scared of. | ||
| But very few people have said wrestling is fun. | ||
| Like basketball is fun. | ||
| No one who's wrestled seriously is like, oh, it's fun. | ||
| It's like, it's not fun. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like the training is not fun. | ||
| It's painful and it's fun. | ||
| It's only fun if the guy you're wrestling sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you train a lot. | ||
| That moment was a lot of fun. | ||
| I mean, winning is great. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But, you know, the actual process of going to practice. | ||
| It's like, I got to practice. | ||
| Like, I got to cut weight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But it's one of the best character developers for young people. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The guys that I meet that are former wrestlers, competitive wrestlers, they're just a different kind of human being. | ||
| It's like military guys, like guys who've been through like Navy SEAL training. | ||
| There's a different kind of human. | ||
| You're dealing with a guy who can get through some shit that the average person is going to fold up under. | ||
| And if you can learn how to do that and overcome that desire to quit when you're a kid, oh, it's so valuable. | ||
| It's so valuable for the rest of your life. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And it helps if you're not very good. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| If you're also like on the fence and you have to work for everything, it's like because you're coming across all kinds of adversity and stuff and then you have to figure out. | ||
| And then, you know, I can speak from experience. | ||
| It's embarrassing to get pinned in a gym full of people. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's not like losing a basketball game. | ||
| Even football, what I love, the camaraderie of football, it's not losing a football game. | ||
| Having your shoulder blades pinned down in front of everybody in a gymnasium is against your will. | ||
| Yeah, it's totally humid. | ||
| It's humiliating. | ||
| And the reality about fighting is if a guy can hold you down, he can beat you up. | ||
| That's just how it works. | ||
| This guy who's my same weight can pretty much do whatever he wants to make. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Take that home with you. | ||
| And when you go up, when I wrestled, I remember the difference between regular guys that would wrestle in meets. | ||
| Maulden, Massachusetts would wrestle against Newton and go to travel with them. | ||
| The difference between that and then getting in there with a state champion is like, oh, okay. | ||
| And then you hear these guys go to camps every summer and it's 24-7, 365. | ||
| They're always wrestling. | ||
| There's no wrestling season. | ||
| I'm like, oh, I'll never catch up. | ||
| It's so funny when you're in with a guy who's really good. | ||
| You're mentally preparing yourself. | ||
| It's like, I just got to take it tomb. | ||
| I just got to take a tomb. | ||
| I just got to go out there and be aggressive and take a tomb. | ||
| And then he's moving so fast that you're like, I just can't keep, I can't keep up with this guy. | ||
| Yeah, you have no chance. | ||
| And most people have no idea how helpless they are against a wrestler. | ||
| There's a horrible street fight video that I watched the other day where this guy, they square off in the street. | ||
| This guy takes a swing at this guy. | ||
| And this guy shoots in with a double, hoists this dude up into the air and power slams him on his head on the concrete and then punches him in the face a couple times where he's completely unconscious. | ||
| Then his buddies jump on him and it's a fucking melee. | ||
| Thank God for that. | ||
| His buddies pulling him off. | ||
| I think even that alone, man, you get a real powerful wrestler slams you on your head. | ||
| I mean, that's, you might not live. | ||
| I don't know what happened to that guy, but I looked at that. | ||
| I'm like, that guy could be dead. | ||
| Guys die all the time from getting knocked out in street fights. | ||
| Hitting their head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how they die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's another video. | ||
| It's like what happens afterwards. | ||
| Did you see that video from there's a Cleveland Jazz Festival? | ||
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Cincinnati? | |
| Cincinnati? | ||
| Cincinnati Jazz Festival where this couple got jumped and this guy got beaten down and kicked and then the girl is trying to separate it and this guy punches the girl and KOs her and she falls and bangs her head on the ground and she's out cold with her eyes open. | ||
| It's fucking horrifying. | ||
| That's horrible to watch. | ||
| And people are screaming and cheering, kick his ass. | ||
| And unfortunately, it's a bunch of black people jumping two white people. | ||
| So it's even more problematic. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's a horrible video, man, of the worst aspects of human nature. | ||
| This fucking desire to beat people up for no reason. | ||
| I don't know what the reason was. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
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Right. | |
| Those things are hard to watch. | ||
| You have to watch cute pet videos after that for you to get yourself back, you know, like a dog who befriends her cat. | ||
| I mean, as a man punched a woman right in the face and knocked her unconscious, and she bangs her head off the ground. | ||
| Her eyes are out wide open. | ||
| Oh, it's fucking horrible, man. | ||
| That kind of shit could affect you for the rest of your life. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| You might not ever be the same. | ||
| Like, traumatic brain injuries like that, there's people that never come back from those. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| It's nuts, man. | ||
| That's nuts, man. | ||
| You just can't go out. | ||
| Well, especially if it's a one-on-one fight, it's like, I don't like that whole shit talking back and forth. | ||
| It's like, fuck you, no, fuck you. | ||
| It's like, okay, are we going to, what's going to happen here? | ||
| Like, enough of this. | ||
| Are we going to have a fight? | ||
| Is this a fight now? | ||
| Let's just do it and then get it over with. | ||
| One-on-one fights are stupid. | ||
| They get you killed. | ||
| People don't play by rules. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| It's almost always unnecessary. | ||
| Most people, it's just their ego gets involved and they think they're in a fucking movie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the amount of people that get in street fights that have no training to me is the craziest. | ||
| I've watched so many videos where guys don't know what they're doing at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're just. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| The ego gets involved in it. | ||
| They're in an argument and that transitions over into physical. | ||
| But I think half the guys maybe don't think it's going to go into the physical. | ||
| They're just like good at shit talking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You got to don't do this. | ||
| And sometimes it doesn't. | ||
| And that's good. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| But like, I mean, when it does and you're not ready for it, it can be terrible. | ||
| It's the worst thing in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was watching, there was a comic, I don't want to say his name, but he was a real angry dude, always yelled at people. | ||
| And he got in this like yelling altercation with this fucking guy. | ||
| And I pulled him aside. | ||
| I go, hey, what the fuck are you doing, man? | ||
| Do you even know how to fight? | ||
| He's like, no, no. | ||
| I'm like, have you ever been in a fight? | ||
| He's like, no, no. | ||
| I go, well, why are you calling this guy out to fight? | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Like, you're going to get killed. | ||
| You're going to do it with some guy one day. | ||
| And he's going to go, oh, this is going to be fun. | ||
| This guy, oh, I finally get a chance to beat the shit out of somebody. | ||
| Some boxer or something is going to just beat your fucking face in, man. | ||
| Like, don't do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want your jaw wired shut for six months? | ||
| Like, what are you talking about, Donald? | ||
| Especially with the health insurance companies these days. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| You never know what they're going to cover and what they're going to not cover. | ||
| How crazy you are. | ||
| Did you see the Ben Askren thing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| That's nuts, man. | ||
| The guy needs a double lung transplant. | ||
| I mean, how can that happen? | ||
| Not be covered. | ||
| How can that not be covered? | ||
| How can that happen in our society, man? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, what's going on? | ||
| It's profit over fucking humanity. | ||
| But how is it allowed to legally, how are they legally allowed? | ||
| I don't know the ins and the outs of it, but like the legally allowed to be like, no, we're not covering that. | ||
| You know, it's like the idea of a preexisting condition was nuts to me. | ||
| What kind of preexisting condition? | ||
| I mean, he's got health insurance. | ||
| He gets sick. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| He got pneumonia. | ||
| He's got holes in his fucking lungs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He needs double lung transplant. | ||
| And you say, no, you have to die. | ||
| Meanwhile, he gets the lung transplant. | ||
| I think actually Jake Paul donated a bunch of money to him. | ||
| Paradigm. | ||
| And some other folks did, too. | ||
| Which is great because Jake Paul actually fought him in the past. | ||
| They had a boxing match together, which should have never taken place. | ||
| Jake flatlined him. | ||
| Oh, did he really? | ||
| Oh, Terry. | ||
| That Askarin is super tough, man. | ||
| Yeah, he's a very tough guy. | ||
| He's not a boxer. | ||
| He's never been known for having good hands. | ||
| He was an amazing wrestler. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But Jake's stepped up and paid a big chunk of his medical bills. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| So he's training now. | ||
| Again, he's posting videos, and he weighs like 135 pounds right now. | ||
| And he's got this giant scar across his chest, and his arms are like sticks, and he's on the bike working out again. | ||
| And Ben's trying to put weight back on. | ||
| Just trying to rehab. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trying to get his body back. | ||
| Yeah, but I saw the, I didn't watch the whole videos, but his face looks really crazy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He lost like 35 pounds. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and he was there for months, just rotting away. | ||
| It's just a lot of fun. | ||
| He's a super tough. | ||
| He was a super, super tough wrestler. | ||
| Oh, dude, the Bellator days, if you go back and watch him in the Bellator days, he would just dominate guys. | ||
| They would have no clue as to what he was doing. | ||
| He would take some of the best fighters in the world, and as soon as he grabbed a hold of them, they were fucked. | ||
| And that guy was known to have a motor. | ||
| He would never get tired. | ||
| He wrestled at Missouri, I think. | ||
| My friend Greg Warren was an all-American. | ||
| He's a great comic. | ||
| Greg Warren. | ||
| I know Greg. | ||
| You know Greg? | ||
| I work with Greg. | ||
| He's unbelievable. | ||
| Yeah, funny dude. | ||
| And I wrestled and everything, but Greg was an all-American. | ||
| Yeah, he was a real legit wrestler. | ||
| And he knows Askron. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And I met him at nationals one year. | ||
| I always wanted Askron to fight in the UFC long before he did. | ||
| And unfortunately, I think he did sort of the prime of his career in Bellator, and no one got a chance to see it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because that was when he was at his best, when he was fighting guys like Douglas Lima, who was another guy who people forgot because he was fighting so much in Bellator. | ||
| But he was one of the best Walter Weights ever. | ||
| He was one of the only guys to knock out MVP. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Douglas Lima is a fucking beast, man. | ||
| And Ben Asprin got a hold of him and just ragged all. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| Yeah, Korshkov, another guy, killer, fucking nasty spinning back kick. | ||
| He was nasty, nasty striker, ragged all. | ||
| Ben got a hold of him. | ||
| He was just throwing those guys around. | ||
| They just gave him noogies. | ||
| They couldn't do shit. | ||
| There was nothing they could do to him. | ||
| That's really something. | ||
| Yeah, they couldn't get up. | ||
| And he, like, I can't emphasize a guy who never gets tired. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I always had to, like, pace out, like, and think about it. | ||
| It's like, how much energy is this? | ||
| You kind of have to subconsciously go, how much energy is this going to take? | ||
| Because I got to conserve my energy. | ||
| It's like, that's just not a thing. | ||
| Well, that's the difference between a guy who's constantly wrestling and doing it all of his life and doing camps and starting when he was a young boy. | ||
| And also, like, his technique was so good. | ||
| He's like, so unorthodox as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So efficient. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So efficient. | ||
| Efficient with the energy is a big thing. | ||
| Oh, that's huge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if a guy doesn't have to be tense all the time, you know, but it's like this video that I watched with Uzek, it was very eye-opening. | ||
| It was like, of course, of course. | ||
| He would do 15 rounds of three and a half minutes with a 20-second rest. | ||
| So he's preparing himself for a 12-round fight. | ||
| He would do 15, but he would do three and a half-minute rounds, and he would do 20 seconds rest instead of one minute. | ||
| And if he touched his back to the ropes at any point in time, he would add another round. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's really great. | ||
| Fucking hell. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| It's like the Lomenchenko. | ||
| I didn't see the Usik one, but I saw how Lomenchenko trained. | ||
| Same training. | ||
| Yeah, the same kind of church. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His father trains Usik in. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Same kind of thing. | ||
| And it's bananas, like the coordination. | ||
| He quit boxing as a young kid to learn Russian dance. | ||
| Well, that's why his footwork is so crazy. | ||
| His footwork is insane. | ||
| His filter is insane. | ||
| I would really like to have seen him fight Shakur. | ||
| And, you know, these guys, Tank and Shakur, are great. | ||
| But they were calling him out, and it was after, I think, Lomachenko was. | ||
| It's after he fought Haney, and he was like, I'm kind of done. | ||
| He fought Kambosis, and then that was, he rapped on that. | ||
| I felt like he got robbed in the Haney fight. | ||
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I thought so, too. | |
| I thought he won that fight. | ||
| I thought he won that. | ||
| It was a bummer to me because I was like, this is kind of a great comeback story. | ||
| The guy fights for Ukraine in the war, comes back, gets back into shape, fights again. | ||
| And Haney's great, but he was much bigger than Lomo. | ||
| Lomo was a, he just looked very small. | ||
| He looked like, you know, he was fighting at 35, but these guys are cutting down from God knows where. | ||
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| Like Haney's fighting at 47 now. | ||
| So it's, you know, you could just see their builds. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They look different. | ||
| Yeah, it's a different size, different size. | ||
| But Shakur, I'm saying Shakur looks about the same size as Lomo. | ||
| Also, super skillful. | ||
| Super skillful. | ||
| And I was happy. | ||
| I was happy his last fight. | ||
| his last fight, best Philly Shell since Floyd Mayweather. | ||
| His fucking defense was incredible. | ||
| Defense, and he stayed. | ||
| And that guy was putting the guy from Golden Boy. | ||
| I can't remember his name who he fought, but was just a good fighter and was really pressuring him. | ||
| And Shakur stayed in the pocket. | ||
| He stayed in the pocket. | ||
| He also said he's not calling him a runner before. | ||
| He's not a runner, yeah. | ||
| But he said after that fight, I'm not going to fight that way anymore. | ||
| He said, I took too many shots. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, because he wanted to put on a show and show everybody he's not just a runner. | ||
| He could stand in the pocket. | ||
| And then he's like, why am I doing this? | ||
| I'll box the shit out of these motherfuckers. | ||
| He's a silver medalist, that guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, he's elite. | ||
| He's elite. | ||
| And just one of the best, like, as far as skill. | ||
| What do you think of Crawford Canelo? | ||
| I love it. | ||
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Do you? | |
| Yeah, I love that. | ||
| See, I don't. | ||
| Crawford wants to do it. | ||
| I don't love it. | ||
| I think it's Crawford's last fight, so I'm happy he's going to cash out, and I'm rooting for him. | ||
| But I would like to see him stay at 54 and fight Virgil Ortiz. | ||
| I'd like to see that too, but the big money is Canelo. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And why not do it? | ||
| I mean, what a ballsy move. | ||
| You go 47 to 54, and you go, fuck 60. | ||
| You'll go right up to 68. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Because he's really not even at 54. | ||
| He's taken the fight at 54. | ||
| He took Majrama because it was a big fight. | ||
| Wins another world title. | ||
| And he won that fight. | ||
| People are like trying to discredit. | ||
| First of all, Terrence fought great. | ||
| Matt Drama is as great. | ||
| He's great as good dude. | ||
| And fought him differently than he fought every other guy. | ||
| He did fight him differently. | ||
| He's dangerous. | ||
| And Matt Drama is a great athlete. | ||
| Anybody who does a backflip in the ring, that guy, he's a great athlete. | ||
| And he is like, all these Eastern block fighters always have like seven. | ||
| They're like seven and oh. | ||
| And it looks like nothing. | ||
| It's like, yeah, but he has 400 amateur fights. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like Arthur Bitterbeef is a perfect example. | ||
| He had like 300 amateur fights. | ||
| So did Lomachenko. | ||
| They have hundreds of amateur fights. | ||
| And by the time they get to the professional ranks, like, yeah, this isn't a regular 1-0 guy. | ||
| These are guys that just, they can do stuff that you can't even imagine being able to do. | ||
| They're unreal. | ||
| So who do you have in the fight? | ||
| I would, listen, it's going to be great. | ||
| It's going to be a great fight. | ||
| You're dealing with two all-time greats. | ||
| Crawford's one of the best switch hitters, I think, since Marvin Hagler and one of the most skillful boxers alive. | ||
| And then you have Canelo, who probably isn't the same guy as he was just like a few years ago, but still one of the greatest of all time, still has brutal knockout power. | ||
| You know, I mean, if you go back to like some of his, you know, like more impressive fights from a few years ago, like the Amir Khan KO, you know, like the Billy Joe Saunders KO, like those KOs, like he's probably not that guy anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's still, he's still young enough that he's still pretty close to his prime and one of the best of all time. | ||
| I'd like to see him fight David Benavidez. | ||
| Oh, yeah, of course. | ||
| And I think that the WBC should have forced it, that fight. | ||
| I know he's the draw of boxing and he's the face of boxing and all that stuff. | ||
| It says a lot that he doesn't want that. | ||
| You can't let the inmates run the asylum, for lack of a better phrase. | ||
| You have to force the fight. | ||
| Patrick Mahomes comes into a football season. | ||
| He doesn't automatically go to the playoffs. | ||
| He's got to play every game. | ||
| And if he loses enough game, he has to go on the road in the playoffs. | ||
| It's like the WBC should have forced Canelo to fight David Benavidez. | ||
| Because that's not fair. | ||
| The David Benavidez has to go up to 75 now. | ||
| And he has to wait to see the winner of the Better Beef Bival fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that was the fight. | ||
| The fight, I mean, for Mexican bragging rights, too. | ||
| What a great fight. | ||
| And in no way do I think that Canelo was afraid of him or anything. | ||
| He's just trying to maneuver his career with the least risk. | ||
| And the most money. | ||
| And the most money. | ||
| I think he said he wanted to fight him, but he wanted like $200 million or something crazy like that. | ||
| I mean, but it's your mandatory defense at 68. | ||
| It's your mandatory. | ||
| How do you choose? | ||
| I know you're defensive boxing, but how do you choose? | ||
| The WBC got to force that, man. | ||
| Yeah, but maybe the Saudis will cough up that money eventually. | ||
| Like, maybe he beats Crawford, and then they say, listen, like, Turkey al-Ashik decides. | ||
| What does this say? | ||
| Dev Benavier, they offered Canelo $70 million to fight me. | ||
| That's before pay-per-view. | ||
| They offered me a flat fee of $5 million. | ||
| I said yes. | ||
| Then we never heard back. | ||
| Whoa, that's crazy. | ||
| But, you know, maybe for him, 70 million is not the number he wanted. | ||
| Maybe he thinks the Saudis will give him 200. | ||
| They might. | ||
| Look, if he beats Crawford, that might be the move. | ||
| But it speaks to how boxing is organized. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's true. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, it's goofy. | ||
| It's like not organized. | ||
| It wants to be respected as a sport, but it's not organized that way. | ||
| Well, there's so many sanctioning bodies. | ||
| Yeah, I say clean them out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Clean out the sanctioning bodies as one title. | ||
| Because if someone's offering someone a world title fight, they can make so much more money as a world champion. | ||
| You know, like you win the WBO. | ||
| Let's say like Canelo vacates some titles and the guy picks it up. | ||
| He's still a WBO champion or a WBC champion or WBA or IBF or IBO. | ||
| But that's the problem is that there's so many world champions. | ||
| Whereas in MMA, like you can be a Bellator world champion, but everybody knows you're not really the world champion unless you're the UFC world champion in terms of public perception. | ||
| There's guys I think that were Bellator champions that could have won in the UFC at that same weight class. | ||
| And there's guys that did, like Eddie Alvarez came over from Bellator. | ||
| He was a world champion and he won the world title in the UFC. | ||
| Guys did it. | ||
| But the reality is most people think of a world champion as a UFC champion. | ||
| But in boxing, the WBA champion is thought exactly the same way as the WBC champion. | ||
| It depends on who it is. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like if Tyson has, if it was Mike Tyson in the early days and he had the WBC belt and you had a WBA belt, you weren't the champion. | ||
| Mike Tyson was the champion. | ||
| Everybody knew it. | ||
| But other than those kind of examples, you know, where there's one guy that's just the ultimate in that weight class, a world championship is worth a lot of money. | ||
| So it's hard for guys to say no and just say, look, I'm only going to fight for the Ring magazine belt. | ||
| That's what the Saudis own. | ||
| And they're going to make everybody fight everybody. | ||
| It's going to make the most amount of money. | ||
| Because I think that's what they're kind of angling towards. | ||
| Structuring it differently? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because that's what needs, I mean, in my opinion, that's What needs to happen? | ||
| It needs to be structured differently, and there needs to be like the fights need to be forced. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| You have to let go of the draw a little bit. | ||
| Like, well, this fight is not going to, it doesn't matter if it draws or not. | ||
| We need this fight to happen so that we can get the best champion. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So we can get the real champion here. | ||
| So it doesn't matter if it's not technically a good matchup. | ||
| It has to be forced. | ||
| It means something to be the number one contender. | ||
| It means something. | ||
| But then if you do that, you never get fights like Tyson Fury versus Francis Ngano. | ||
| You only get those fights, those fun fights, if someone's like, okay, let's just try this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I think that's what there are like prop fights. | ||
| I don't know if I call them that, but like what Floyd is doing now, Mayweather. | ||
| He's like, he kind of deserves to do that. | ||
| Like he's like outside. | ||
| He's retired and he's like, I'm putting on these fights. | ||
| And if he can get paid for them, good for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But that's outside of what we consider real competition. | ||
| Yeah, well, this is different because Floyd's 50. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is a different thing. | ||
| But when you're talking about- He's like, I challenge this guy. | ||
| And it's like, that's fine. | ||
| And that's fun. | ||
| But is that the highest level of if he fought better beef? | ||
| The Anthony Joshua thing is crazy to me, too. | ||
| But it's like, if he fought better beef, it's like... | ||
| That would be the fight. | ||
| That would be the fight. | ||
| That would be fun to watch. | ||
| Because you can't run from Better Beeve. | ||
| He's terrifying. | ||
| He's terrifying. | ||
| He's 40, too. | ||
| Technically sounds 40. | ||
| These guys are all older because of their amateur careers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, Usik's 38, which is also crazy. | ||
| He's in his prime at 38. | ||
| But I think a big part of that is it speaks to his discipline that he stays in such insane shape. | ||
| Who's that, Usik? | ||
| Usik. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't let himself. | ||
| And Better Beeve as well. | ||
| There's some amazing videos of Better Beef. | ||
| Very similar kind of training methods. | ||
| Like it's Russians and Ukrainians and, you know, Betterbeev is Chechnyan. | ||
| It's like these guys. | ||
| Chechnyan, Muslim, doesn't drink, disciplined lifestyle. | ||
| And then it's funny because they ask these guys about who's your favorite boxer? | ||
| He's like, I really don't watch it. | ||
| This is my job. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| This is my job. | ||
| This is my job. | ||
| I come. | ||
| I do my job. | ||
| I go home to my family. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| You don't watch boxing? | ||
| You don't watch boxing. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| You're one of the best ever. | ||
| You don't want boxing. | ||
| Who's the kid? | ||
| Who's the Denver Nuggets guy? | ||
| He's another guy who says that after they won the NBA championship. | ||
| Jokic. | ||
| Jokic. | ||
| He's another guy. | ||
| He won the NBA Championship Championship. | ||
| He's like, nah, it's fun. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| We celebrate and I go home with my family now. | ||
| I don't think about basketball. | ||
| He doesn't even get emotional when he wins, but his horse won and he broke down crying. | ||
| Oh, did you see it? | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Emotionally celebrates after his horse wins a race. | ||
| That's so great. | ||
| So his horse won a race and he was fucking crying. | ||
| He's like, this is the greatest thing of all time. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's so happy. | ||
| So happy. | ||
| So if you watch, when they had him in the stand, there's a video of him at the end of it. | ||
| Oh, that was a bad video. | ||
| No, that's not a video. | ||
| That's not the same video. | ||
| But so when his horse did win, he was like crying and so happy. | ||
| Meanwhile. | ||
| Meanwhile, he wins. | ||
| Something he's been working for his whole life. | ||
| He's like, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that's the secret to success. | ||
| He stays Zen about it. | ||
| Well, they look at it like it's a job. | ||
| They prepare mentally, and these guys are very mentally tough. | ||
| And they prepare for it like a job. | ||
| And then they go and do the job. | ||
| And they're like, this isn't my life. | ||
| It kind of dials back some of the ego on it, which I like. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like, I'm this guy. | ||
| It's like, no, I'm doing this. | ||
| And then when I retire, I'll just be a guy. | ||
| No one thinks about that in America. | ||
| Everybody's like, no, I'm going to go to, and I get it. | ||
| You know, it's like, I'm going to go to the next thing. | ||
| Maybe I can parlay this into something else or a vitamin water. | ||
| I can have a cologne. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like they're trying to parlay it into something else to make more money. | ||
| But I don't know, man. | ||
| These guys, they have the eye of the tiger. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| We played a few times on this podcast, Serbian basketball, when they played basketball in Serbia and how the crowd is. | ||
| And you're like, oh, my God, this is like you're stepping into a fucking gang war. | ||
| The crowds are so electric. | ||
| They're so into it, like aggressively into it. | ||
| You're like, dude, these people from that part of the world are hard people. | ||
| And when they're coming over here, they're dominating in MMA. | ||
| They're dominating in boxing. | ||
| That's a tough part of the war. | ||
| It's been wracked by war for hundreds of years. | ||
| What is this, Jamie? | ||
| This is Serbia? | ||
| Bro, they're starting fires. | ||
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What are they doing? | |
| Flares and fireworks and shit. | ||
| They're outside. | ||
| Oh, this is outside basketball. | ||
| That would have been funny if they were inside doing fireworks. | ||
| Bro, they have outside basketball games. | ||
| That's pretty wild, too. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's like, look at this fucking crowd, dude. | ||
| It's just nuts how hyped up they get. | ||
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wow Yeah, bro. | |
| It's a different world. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| People go, the Eagles fans are really tough. | ||
| It's like, I don't know how about these guys. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Have you ever seen that game that they play? | ||
| I think it's called Calcio Storico. | ||
| Calcio Storico? | ||
| It's like a combination of rugby and MMA. | ||
| And they do it in Italy and they do it at a couple other places. | ||
| They do it in Croatia. | ||
| Oh, I think I did see that. | ||
| So brother. | ||
| It's like a rugby, right? | ||
| But it's fighting. | ||
| So they get together as teams and they've got a ball. | ||
| I don't know what the fucking deal is with the ball, but they beat the fucking piss out of each other. | ||
| These guys just look rough. | ||
| Animals. | ||
| Like animals. | ||
| Look at that guy. | ||
| He's rubbing his hands together. | ||
| I can't wait to fucking brain somebody. | ||
| And so these guys stand outside each other and they're having gang fights. | ||
| Like this is the beginning of the game. | ||
| And there's a ball involved. | ||
| I don't understand the need for this ball. | ||
| But look, while that ball's moving around, these guys in the middle are just beating the shit out of each other. | ||
| They're wrestling. | ||
| They're fucking shooting takedowns, body slamming each other's elbows to the face on the ground. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It's the craziest fucking game. | ||
| Like, this is back when people needed something to do in between war. | ||
| You know? | ||
| They needed something to stay sharp. | ||
| And so they developed a game to make their fucking war ability hone tight while they ramp up their team. | ||
| The refs are dressed like jesters. | ||
| Yeah, it's ridiculous. | ||
| It's probably how cool people dress back when they invented this. | ||
| But it's interesting. | ||
| I wonder if they're scoring for the individual fights that they're having. | ||
| What did you say, Jamie? | ||
| You want to tell someone score? | ||
| What is the point of that? | ||
| Yeah, there's no point. | ||
| There's no point. | ||
| Who's got the ball? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| These guys are just beating each other up. | ||
| And this guy's grabbing a hold of the fence there. | ||
| You're allowed to hold the fence. | ||
| There's like almost no rules. | ||
| scores here about like did they win the fight or did they get a Yeah, I have no idea. | ||
| I don't think they care about the goal. | ||
| I think they want to punch you in the face. | ||
| I mean, it's a crazy game. | ||
| Well, it's three to two. | ||
| Like, look, this guy gets taken down out of nowhere. | ||
| He's nowhere near the ball. | ||
| This guy's mounting him, beating his ass, and the guy runs across with the ball. | ||
| Look at those stupid shorts. | ||
| They weren't tights and shit. | ||
| Like, the clothes they wear are ridiculous. | ||
| Was that guy got something stuck to his back, like a needle? | ||
| Look at his back. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He's got like a piercing, it looks like a fucking... | ||
| Well, like a pin. | ||
| There's no one stopping the fight either, so this must be part of it. | ||
| Yeah, he's got like a safety pin through his back. | ||
| Maybe he's the captain of the team. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta pull that off to win. | ||
| This is not. | ||
| Oh, maybe that is something. | ||
| I mean, it seems like you just kind of grab that. | ||
| This is a crazy-ass sport, man. | ||
| And look, these guys are mounted on top of each other while the game's going on. | ||
| Guys inside control. | ||
| It's chaos. | ||
| Full contact soccer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, this guy's running, and the other guy just mounts him, starts beating his ass. | ||
| It's kind of entertaining. | ||
| Yeah, fucking for sure entertaining. | ||
| It's violent. | ||
| Violence is in it. | ||
| But look, all these guys in the middle, they're not even stopping this guy from running because they're too busy mounting people. | ||
| And he gets through. | ||
| I'll score. | ||
| All right, that guy scored. | ||
| Oh, you look at it. | ||
| He did it casual. | ||
| Nutty ass game. | ||
| But that's the point. | ||
| It's like those people from that part of the world, they've been involved in some wild shit for a long time. | ||
| Long time. | ||
| That's Europe. | ||
| Is it Europe? | ||
| That is in Florence, I believe. | ||
| That's Italy. | ||
| But I know, like I said, they do that in Croatia as well. | ||
| That same sport. | ||
| It's just hard people out there in the world while we're all arguing over pronouns in your Twitter bio. | ||
| We're arguing with each other on Twitter. | ||
| That's really funny. | ||
| It's like arguing with each other on Twitter, and those guys are doing that. | ||
| That's what Twitter would look like if it was physical. | ||
| Yeah, sort of. | ||
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There'd be a lot of guys crying. | |
| Are you on the Twitter? | ||
| Have you figured out a way to do it? | ||
| Nah, I'm off of it. | ||
| But I used to write jokes on it. | ||
| And now it's like just. | ||
| It doesn't benefit you to write jokes on it anymore. | ||
| Now it's confrontation is what the algorithm loves. | ||
| So unless you're trying to, at least the way that that's the way I view it, it's like, unless you're trying to take somebody down or have an argument, that spurs the algorithm. | ||
| So I don't want to do any of that. | ||
| Yeah, it's nonsense. | ||
| I'm focused on front-facing Instagram videos now. | ||
| Front-facing? | ||
| Yeah, you talk into your phone. | ||
| That's what people love now. | ||
| Is that what you're doing? | ||
| I have to do it to promote my shows. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Well, the Ozzy Osborne death is crazy, right, guys? | ||
| Prince of Darkness. | ||
| That's one of those things. | ||
| Yeah, it's like comment on stuff. | ||
| Comment. | ||
| It's kind of like what Twitter was, but I don't know. | ||
| It's always changing. | ||
| And you hear that this is what is getting views. | ||
| And you're trying to sell tickets. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But I mean, I'm glad I don't have to do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I put stand-up clips. | ||
| Stand-up clips is really my bread and butter. | ||
| Oh, that's the big thing. | ||
| A great stand-up clip will push you right into headliner. | ||
| And if you're a beginning comic, like even before you're ready, there's guys that they start out. | ||
| They've been doing comedy for three years. | ||
| They got a good 10 minutes. | ||
| And they put that 10 minutes online. | ||
| And then, boom, they take off. | ||
| Now you have to write a whole hour outside of that 10 minutes. | ||
| And you have to headline. | ||
| It's just a rush job to kind of get it through. | ||
| You have to figure out how to fill that space. | ||
| Everybody has different challenges. | ||
| So the guys who do that, then they're filling clubs. | ||
| And now they got to figure out how to get people their money's worth in those clubs. | ||
| You have to construct a real hour. | ||
| You have to construct an hour or like, say, you got famous off crowdwork or something. | ||
| It's like, that's mostly what you're doing then, crowdwork. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| That you can do. | ||
| Like, that's pretty easy. | ||
| Not easy, but you can fill time. | ||
| Whereas like if you're the hardest for me, I think, not for me, I don't do it, but the hardest, in my opinion, is non-sequitur guys. | ||
| You know, guys like Stephen Wright. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Like that kind of thing, like one absurd non-sequitur into another. | ||
| There's no like through line. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's all just like things that are totally unrelated. | ||
| Here's another thing I noticed. | ||
| It's so hard to write an hour that well. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Like I think Stephen Wright and the other one was Mitch Hedberg. | ||
| It was a very similar style. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Non-sequiturs. | ||
| Fantastic, too. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| But very hard and time-consuming to put an hour together. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I mean, you have to write if you're doing that. | ||
| But those clips, I mean, those clips do well. | ||
| You know, if you put work into the clip, the trick of it is developing the material fast enough in order to put it out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like that every, you're not coming up with that every day. | ||
| And I don't know if the general public realizes that. | ||
| You're almost better off loot for online, loosely talking about a subject and putting that up rather than really sitting in the pocket and developing it the way that we do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because a lot of times like it's a well, the guys are like really good at ranting. | ||
| Like Burr is really good at it and Tim Dylan's the best at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where they just take a subject and rant. | ||
| That's a great premise factory because you're going on these rants for, you know, with Dylan. | ||
| He'll do a rant for like an hour. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A couple of minutes in there, you could probably develop into material. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then you're doing that all the time. | ||
| But the thing is, you have to stop. | ||
| And that's the thing with journaling. | ||
| People are like, you should journal. | ||
| And I tried it. | ||
| I tried a different technique. | ||
| Like, get up and just journal. | ||
| Don't worry about the jokes. | ||
| Just journal every day. | ||
| So you're journaling every day, and it's like now you have a lot of premises, but none of it's developed. | ||
| So you can't journal every day. | ||
| Then when you have like a week of journaling, it's like now you have to go back through the journal and you have to see what's, you have to pull it out and then develop these ideas. | ||
| When you say journaling, so you sit down and write, you write about your life. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Write about your life. | ||
| Or if like you write about a topic that you're interested in, that's gnawing at you. | ||
| there's so many funny or potentially funny things that happen to you every day that if you would just journal it you you bring it to light and you but if you don't journal it's kind of like these things just they slip away they But if you journal and it's like, oh, that was funny, that was funny. | ||
| Just getting on a plane now is hilarious. | ||
| You know, there's so many different things and you interact with so many different, just these small interactions with people. | ||
| And it's just, it's, you know, something that could go south. | ||
| You know, it could go south. | ||
| It could be okay. | ||
| And I got off the plane coming here just gets me every time. | ||
| It happens almost every time I travel. | ||
| I think I'm drawing it to me. | ||
| It's like there's a natural progression of how the plane deborts. | ||
| It's like people from the seats, they just get off the plane according to where your seat is. | ||
| You're getting off first if you're closer to the entrance of the plane. | ||
| That's the way it's designed to go. | ||
| There's always somebody who runs, gets their bag and runs to the front of the plane. | ||
| And you're like, what are you doing, dude? | ||
| We all want to get off. | ||
| Unless you have a connecting flight, we all want to get off. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I know. | ||
| People get mad at those people. | ||
| There was a video recently where a lady did that and people were yelling at her. | ||
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| Somebody videos it and it's an altercation and it turns into a viral clip. | ||
| How about that lady that said that someone on the plane wasn't real? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| She said something about shapeshifting. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I bet she's a lot of fun. | ||
| I bet that lady's a lot of fun. | ||
| I bet she's great. | ||
| She's really fun at parties. | ||
| It's like there's an imaginary person and then they're like, there was no imaginary person. | ||
| I was like, I was having a bad day. | ||
| Not just imaginary person, but yell it out in the middle of a plane that's in the sky. | ||
| Was it already in the sky? | ||
| Or did she get kicked off the plane when it was on the ground? | ||
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Yeah, I think that. | |
| I think it was in the sky. | ||
| So it was before? | ||
| Was it in the sky? | ||
| I think it was. | ||
| Imagine you're on the plane with a lady that says that someone's not real. | ||
| And you go, okay, one of two things is going on here. | ||
| Either she's nuts or I'm in a horror movie. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because if she's right, you know, and like you look back, you're like, hey, what's going on with that guy's skin? | ||
| It's like, it starts bursting and fucking separating and it's like John Carpenter's a thing. | ||
| Like, fuck. | ||
| Turns out she was right. | ||
| He wasn't real. | ||
| He was morphing into something else. | ||
| Yeah, the odds of that are very small. | ||
| But in movies, it's very high. | ||
| So it's like, it's hard. | ||
| You got to take it with a grain of salt. | ||
| She might be right. | ||
| Imagine if she was right. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And you have to find out. | ||
| And there's no communication on a plane. | ||
| The plane just goes in the middle of the ocean. | ||
| There's a fucking person who turns into an insect on board and starts attacking everybody. | ||
| Or a chest burster, like from that movie, Alien. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Why did it have to be me? | ||
| Anything can happen. | ||
| And then nobody believes it. | ||
| No one believes it. | ||
| Yeah, and then it becomes a conspiracy theory that people like autistic people obsess about on the internet. | ||
| They know what happened. | ||
| But that's okay. | ||
| They never follow up with what actually happened to her. | ||
| What's her life like now? | ||
| She's on a podcast with Conor McGregor. | ||
| Yeah, she's popping up at his place. | ||
| She was on Barstall doing stuff there for a while. | ||
| Oh, but she's doing something with Conor McGregor. | ||
| That's why I brought her up. | ||
| Yeah, he posted her today that she's going to be at his. | ||
| Maybe she could do something with the Hawk 2. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Maybe they could,'cause her career has kinda They could figure it out. | ||
| We'll put our best people on it. | ||
| She's going to the inn that he owns? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's just, you know, like an appearance or something like that. | ||
| She does appearances? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| She's been on the internet now for a thousand years. | ||
| That's very funny. | ||
| She complained about somebody disappearing, and now she's doing appearances. | ||
| Ruby sells better than Joe List. | ||
| Travesty. | ||
| There she is. | ||
| She's described as a marketing executive, too. | ||
| So I don't know that that was fake, but you know, crazy plane lady after she had a meltdown on a flight in 2023. | ||
| What did she say she saw? | ||
| I was reading through it because they did do a follow-up here where there's police. | ||
| Is that her down there? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, she's hot. | ||
| Why does she not, why does she look different, Joe? | ||
| That always helps. | ||
| Look at that initial photo of her. | ||
| Start at the top. | ||
| How does that become... | ||
| How does it become that? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| That looks like a different person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Playing outfit. | ||
| Scroll down, though. | ||
| Makeover. | ||
| Lost some weight. | ||
| Tighten everything up. | ||
| She's making the best out of it. | ||
| Okay, so what is she saying? | ||
| Oh, I mean, different. | ||
| She's in the spotlight. | ||
| She's remained in the spotlight since, appearing on podcast, YouTube shows, and giving tours of her sleek Texas home. | ||
| Oh, she's Texas crazy. | ||
| Even better. | ||
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Even better. | |
| That's armed crazy. | ||
| Here was when it actually happened, and they followed her out. | ||
| And I was trying to read through here. | ||
| So what was she saying? | ||
| I don't care if I ever fly with y'all again. | ||
| I just want to know what happens to this flight here. | ||
| I'm not crazy. | ||
| Y'all's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, do not let that flight leave. | ||
| This flight's not going to make it to Orlando. | ||
| It's not going to. | ||
| Looking out the windows as they escort her, Goma says there's a lot of people on that flight. | ||
| So she really believes that there's something on that flight. | ||
| Maybe she took an edible. | ||
| Maybe someone slipped her a Mickey. | ||
| Like, what did she say she saw? | ||
| I know that she was smart enough for a while to milk it and tell you, like, you know, I'll tell you on this next podcast what was really. | ||
| That motherfucker's not real, she said. | ||
| And she's 38, so it's like a MILF. | ||
| MILF kind of crazy. | ||
| But imagine if you're the guy she's saying that you're not real and you're just right there. | ||
| Right, just chilling. | ||
| Like, you're not real. | ||
| It's like chilling with a hoodie on, trying to watch a YouTube video on your phone. | ||
| This fucking crazy bitch is screaming at you. | ||
| That's a great story. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about journaling. | ||
| What if you sit next to her on a plane? | ||
| She flips out, tells you you're not real. | ||
| What a gift that would be if you could tell the audience that you were a guy that was on the flight with that motherfucker's not real lady. | ||
| Here's the quote she said, which is, I thought the plane was going to blow up. | ||
| Oh, why? | ||
| I'm getting the fuck off, and there's a reason why I'm getting the fuck off. | ||
| That motherfucker back there is not real. | ||
| You can sit on this plane and you could fucking die with them or not. | ||
| I'm not going to. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Who's not real? | ||
| Who's the guy? | ||
| I mean, a motherfucker could have been. | ||
| Look at her out there talking to the cops. | ||
| Look at her. | ||
| She's getting. | ||
| She's pointing herself up. | ||
| I don't think she got arrested. | ||
| I think she calmly explained to the cops that someone wasn't real. | ||
| Oh, that's so funny. | ||
| Well, who's the guy, though? | ||
| I want to Know who the guy is. | ||
| That guy's not real. | ||
| That's the guy we should be interviewing. | ||
| Like, she's just trying to. | ||
| She appears more lucid at this point, but remains combative with officers. | ||
| One says to her, I can tell you're having a bad day. | ||
| We're not trying to make it any worse. | ||
| To which she responds, My dad's a cop. | ||
| Fuck you, dude. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| That's got nothing to do with anything. | ||
| My dad's a cop. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| She got into the evidence room, Jack. | ||
| Something happened there. | ||
|
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That's very funny. | |
| I want to know who the guy is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She could have been saying motherfucker not as a person. | ||
| Could have been pointing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, the plane, the back of the plane is not real. | ||
| Something on there's not real. | ||
| She calls herself. | ||
| I like how she blurts out. | ||
| I might never fly again. | ||
| It's like threatening us. | ||
| That might not be your choice. | ||
| She's fucking psyched. | ||
| I'm going to take the bus. | ||
| Who's going to put you on a plane when you said someone's not real? | ||
| You got the incident, something about her AirPods losing, and she accused someone of stealing them. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| Then it just doesn't follow on that. | ||
| Oh, that could be. | ||
| Oh, that could be. | ||
| That actually makes some sense where it's like that someone stole her eye. | ||
| So she thought the plane was going to crash because someone stole her iPod. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Well, it rolls deep. | ||
| She's saying the plane is going to go down. | ||
| They're not going to live. | ||
| Everyone's going to die because someone stole her iPods. | ||
| None of that makes any sense. | ||
| She's kooky. | ||
| She's fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's very fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She probably gets on tables at bars. | ||
|
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You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| She's probably one of them. | ||
| Well, she's successful now. | ||
| Oh, she's the girl at the comedy club. | ||
| It's my birthday. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| She'd be the best in the front row. | ||
| You'd be so happy. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| She's going to come to your shows now. | ||
| No, but that's, it's really something that's a, it's reflective of our society is that she parlayed that into some level of fame. | ||
| I'm sure she has a podcast. | ||
| I'm sure she has all kinds of like, you know, that's her character now. | ||
| Donna McGregor was Instagramming about her today. | ||
| So there you go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Hawk to a girl. | ||
| I mean, she made it all the way to a pump and dump Hawk to a coin. | ||
| You ever heard Metzker talk about it? | ||
| He's got the fucking best bit about it. | ||
| About the Hawk to a coin? | ||
| No. | ||
| I saw him last night, though. | ||
| He's such a lunatic. | ||
| I love that dude. | ||
| He's so funny. | ||
| He's just so nuts. | ||
| But he had this, like, like, who would have thought? | ||
| Who would have thought that would be a ripoff? | ||
| The Hawk to a coin? | ||
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Like, if you just. | |
| He was connecting Taylor Swift to Epstein last night. | ||
| I saw him last night. | ||
| He's like, Taylor Swift, you don't think that there's something in the lights at those concerts that make you have amnesia? | ||
| I'm like, Kurt, I don't. | ||
| I don't know Kurt. | ||
| Well, he's been here for 20 years. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Siri? | ||
| Yeah, he's connected. | ||
| He's connected. | ||
| And then Tommy Pope, who I love. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
|
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Tommy. | |
| The lights give you amnesia? | ||
| This is. | ||
| Yeah, he brought it up. | ||
| I said, no, no, Kurt. | ||
| I never. | ||
| I said, Kurt, I never heard of that. | ||
| And he goes, no, no, it's real. | ||
| And then he brought it up on his phone. | ||
| And sure enough, it was the lights. | ||
| They pay hundreds of dollars for these tickets. | ||
| And then the lights at the Taylor Swift concert make you forget that you were at a concert. | ||
| They make you have amnesia. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What's even crazier to me is how he connected it to Edstein, but he did it. | ||
| Transient global amnesia. | ||
| Taylor Swift fans report post-concert forgetfulness. | ||
| Maybe the plane girl wasn't wrong. | ||
| But here's my take on this. | ||
| She is in this rare air right now like the Beatles, like Elvis in his prime, where it's an emotional experience being in her presence if you're a Taylor Swifty. | ||
| Those fans are diehards. | ||
| She sells out stadiums, multiple shows in stadiums, right? | ||
| I think it's probably so emotional for them when they're standing in front of her and she's singing that afterwards they're so spent and racked, they're probably like, what happened? | ||
| It's probably like such a right. | ||
| Yeah, the Beatles had that effect in Elvis. | ||
| The women would be like crying and shaking. | ||
| They'd faint. | ||
| Michael Jackson in his prime. | ||
| People would faint if they saw him live. | ||
| They'd faint. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| That's way more likely. | ||
| But what about the lights? | ||
| But what about the lights causing seizures? | ||
| I guarantee you I go to that fucking concert and I come out with a perfect memory. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Not that I don't like Taylor Swift, but I like some of her songs. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| One of her songs is on No Body, No Crime. | ||
| It's a great fucking song. | ||
| It's on our Spotify playlist. | ||
| But it wouldn't cause you to have amnesia? | ||
| I'd be fine. | ||
| I'd be fine. | ||
| I'd say, what a great show. | ||
| She's really talented. | ||
| I wouldn't go, what happened? | ||
| What happened? | ||
| But I tell you what, I did see the Rolling Stones when they were at Coda, and I felt like I was on a drug. | ||
| Like, I didn't feel like it was real. | ||
| Like, when they went out onto that stage, Mick Jagger's on that stage, button your lap, baby. | ||
| Like, you're like, I can't believe he's real. | ||
| I was standing there with my friend Bobby, who owns the racetrack, and I was going, I don't feel like I'm really here. | ||
| This feels like a drug. | ||
| This feels crazy. | ||
| Like, I'm watching Mick Jagger and Keith Richards and their lives. | ||
| They're right there. | ||
| It's like, and there's like 100,000 people. | ||
| It's a huge fucking crowd. | ||
| I was like, this is nuts, man. | ||
| This feels fake. | ||
| So I'm probably not, I'm a giant Rolling Stones fan, but I'm probably not as big a Rolling Stones fan as these Swifties are. | ||
| Like, they're her god, or she's their god, rather. | ||
| Like, you go to see. | ||
| Does that have to be enough of a thing to warrant an article on the internet? | ||
| I mean, that's crazy. | ||
| Somebody at Yellow started a study on it. | ||
| I'm trying to see if they followed up on it. | ||
| I want to know what they do. | ||
| Are they a gender studies professor? | ||
| What kind of scholarship have you got to to get that position? | ||
| Do you happen to have a certain heritage that's profitable? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| But yeah, I didn't think it was a thing either. | ||
| And Kurt is like Kurt's a great comic, man. | ||
| He's so funny and he's great. | ||
| But it's like five minutes into the conversation, I'm like, I don't even, Kurt, I don't know what you're saying. | ||
| I don't know where everybody is. | ||
| I don't know what this is. | ||
| It is a CIA plant. | ||
| Everybody is like, you've been put there by the Rockefellers. | ||
| I'm so glad he and I are friends, and we've been friends for so long that he doesn't think I'm some sort of a plant. | ||
| That would be a real problem. | ||
| That would be something. | ||
| If Kurt leans in on you, he really thinks. | ||
| Oh, you don't think? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, you don't think? | ||
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Oh, you don't think? | |
| You don't know? | ||
| You don't know about the thing that happened in 73? | ||
| You don't know about the Kissinger thing? | ||
| the Kissinger thing? | ||
| You don't know? | ||
| Kurt, I don't. | ||
| I don't know any of this. | ||
| I tell him sometimes before I go on stage, I'm like, I have to be on stage in five minutes. | ||
| I can't do this. | ||
| Right now, I can't do this. | ||
| I'll be in my head with what you said on stage going, what the fuck is going on? | ||
| Is he right? | ||
| I'll be Googling shit. | ||
| Is this true? | ||
| Hey, Kurt, I love you, but not right now. | ||
| Oh, I tell him all the time. | ||
| He'll fucking corner you, dude. | ||
| He'll corner you. | ||
| And he looms over you. | ||
| He's a big goo. | ||
| Kurt's 6'5. | ||
| Fucking goo. | ||
| Kurt's 6'5. | ||
| And then he went on stage and destroyed last year. | ||
| Destroyed in the funniest way. | ||
| It's like completely original. | ||
| He's completely fashionable. | ||
| He's going to do a special infilmant at the club. | ||
| I'm very excited. | ||
| Very excited about that. | ||
| He's the man. | ||
| We got a great crew down here. | ||
| It's really fun. | ||
| I was there last night, man. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| How many days are you in town for? | ||
| I'm out now. | ||
| You're out now tonight? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Nice. | ||
| But I'm going to come back and try to do some more podcasts. | ||
| Cool. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Cool. | ||
| There's a lot here now. | ||
| A lot of people are here now. | ||
| Dunker Trussels here now. | ||
| But I've headlined the club several times, and I love it every time, man. | ||
| It's fun to do it. | ||
| I text you every time I'm here. | ||
| I'm like, it's the best, man. | ||
| I'm very happy. | ||
| That makes me very happy. | ||
| That's what we wanted to do, and I feel super lucky that we pulled it off. | ||
| It's hard to do. | ||
| A lot of things have to line up perfectly to be able to get a comic step. | ||
| It's a lot of the staff. | ||
| That's a huge part of it. | ||
| You could tell it was designed by a comic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The club. | ||
| Yeah, designed by me, but also with a lot of input from everybody else. | ||
| Like Hinchcliffe had a lot of input. | ||
| Louis C.K. had a lot of input. | ||
| Brian Simpson had a lot of input. | ||
| All the guys that are regulars at the club, Ron White, everybody had their say. | ||
| Like I basically said, I don't have like an absolute fixed position on anything. | ||
| Tell me what you think. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And so a lot of the stuff, like the lights inside the green room, when the light goes on for each room, so you know who's got the light, the stage. | ||
| The time that someone's on stage, both from the stage and from the green room, all that. | ||
| Like, I think the lights were Tony's idea. | ||
| I think the time might have been Simpson's idea. | ||
| So it's all like everybody had their own say in what we do. | ||
| Louis told me to lower the ceiling in the little room and in the big room. | ||
| I did that. | ||
| He told me to make the stage smaller in the little room. | ||
| I did that. | ||
| Like I did whatever anybody said. | ||
| Like Louie's like, you need more sound deadening. | ||
| You should put carpet down. | ||
| Forget about the bounce that you get from the loudness of the echo does make it louder, but it also makes it a little harder to hear what you're saying. | ||
| I'm like, you're right. | ||
| And so we did everything everybody wanted. | ||
| Every suggestion. | ||
| The acoustics and the low ceilings are key, man. | ||
| It's everything. | ||
| Low ceilings, everything. | ||
| The crispness of what you're saying, especially if you're like a softer spoken guy. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And you're following somebody who's like a yeller. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, you have to. | ||
| You adjust the sound, but it's still, it's like the crispness matters. | ||
| It's got to be clear. | ||
| And, you know, it took us a while to dial everything in. | ||
| The right volume and, you know, the lighting. | ||
| So the light was like, sometimes the audience would be lit up a little bit too much. | ||
| Like, no, you got to darken that. | ||
| You got to do that. | ||
| It took a little while, but once we dialed it in, man, it's been pretty smooth for like we were going on, it'll be our third year in March. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| It's like seems like it just happened. | ||
| And the big room is great. | ||
| It's great to headline that, but I just popped in at the small room last night, and that's, that's really great. | ||
| It's one of the best rooms in the world. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| To work out. | ||
| Like, you can really, you really have the freedom to sit there and like play with and work out the material. | ||
| And that's really what you need. | ||
| You need like you need an experimental place where you can fail a little bit. | ||
| Where you can fuck around. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that little room is like the chamber of truth. | ||
| Because if you've got some bullshit in your act and there's only 100 people in the room, it seems obvious. | ||
| You're like, ew. | ||
| But that's like the old Boston Comedy Club in New York. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Remember that place? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So it's like the last days of the Boston. | ||
| It looks like a log cabin in the back, you know? | ||
| And then there's like, you know, during the winter time when I first got there, 2004, it's like there'd be four people, five people. | ||
| You know, the comics would bark people in. | ||
| And it's like, you had to. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the belly room, the belly room at the store. | ||
| Have you ever done that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The belly room was amazing. | ||
| It's so good for that. | ||
| Because the belly room, I think, is really only supposed to have like 70 people in it. | ||
| And a lot of times it's way over that. | ||
| Especially for roast battle. | ||
| Like they'd do roast battle sometimes, and I'd be in the kitchen. | ||
| I'd be like, has anybody ever checked to make sure this fucking ceiling can support all those folks? | ||
| Because people would jump around and you would like, you'd hear it. | ||
| Like, oh, it would suck if this caved in. | ||
| Because that fucking building's so old. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that building, our building's even older at the mothership, but at least it's been like rebuilt. | ||
| That building at the store, that was Ciro's nightclub in the 1950s, right? | ||
| When was Ciro's? | ||
| And then it was the comedy store from the 70s. | ||
| So like, nobody's like checked to see if those beams are any good. | ||
| Like, we've got a fucking termites and shit eaten through. | ||
| Because at one point in time, the wall, the back wall behind it was in danger because the hill was collapsing. | ||
| And so they had a reinforcement with like steel rebar and giant beams and shit. | ||
| It's funny because if something did happen, everybody would think it was a prank. | ||
| They would go, oh, this has got to be some kind of a prank. | ||
| It's like, no, the ceiling actually. | ||
| So in 1940, Ciro's became a popular night spot for celebrities. | ||
| 1940. | ||
| Nightclub closed in 1960. | ||
| It was reopened as a rock club in 1965. | ||
| After a few name changes, it became the comedy store in 72. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Club Seville. | ||
| Was that what it was before? | ||
| Club Seville? | ||
| So it was Club Seville in 1935. | ||
| It opened New Year's Eve in 1935. | ||
| It featured a crystal dance floor with subsurface fish. | ||
| So it had fish underneath the dance floor, fountains and colored lights in its crystal marine room. | ||
| The building was remodeled in January 1940. | ||
| Cereals was opened. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| A lot of people were whacked in that place. | ||
| And no renovations have been done since. | ||
| Oh, Bugsy Seagull. | ||
| It was Bugsy Seagull's joint. | ||
| That was the thing. | ||
| People got whacked in that place. | ||
| That's why a lot of people believe that it's haunted. | ||
| Oh, that's really funny. | ||
| It's got a weird energy to it, man. | ||
| That place has the weirdest energy. | ||
| The history of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The weirdest. | ||
| The weirdest energy. | ||
| That's awesome, man. | ||
| It's got history. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Massive, massive history in that building. | ||
| Like, you feel it in the walls. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| Jimi Hendrix? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| 65 Syros reopened as the Rock Club Cyros La Disc. | ||
| Ike and Tina Turner performed at the newly opened club with Jimi Hendrix as part of their band. | ||
| Holy shit, man. | ||
| The Birds got their start at Cyros in 1965. | ||
| Accounts of the period reproduced in the sleeve notes to the pre-flight sessions box set described a church-like atmosphere with interpretive dancing. | ||
| Ew. | ||
| The club also served as the host during the recording of 1965 Dick Dale album, Rock Out with Dick Dale and his Dell Tones. | ||
| Boy, people were lame before the internet. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Look at the other two names for it. | ||
| The Kaleidoscope, It's Boss. | ||
| Oh, Kaleidoscope in 68, and then it was called It's Boss in 69, and known as the Patch. | ||
| Oh, in 69, it was known as the Patch 2. | ||
| And then the store from 72 on till present. | ||
| Yeah, because comedy was done in like jazz clubs and stuff, right? | ||
| Or like poetry readings. | ||
| You know what the oldest comedy club in the country is? | ||
| No. | ||
| The Ice House. | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| The Ice House in Pasadena. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Yeah, the Ice House in Pasadena was the oldest running club. | ||
| So it was like, I think it was a music club at first. | ||
| And then, well, at first it started out as an actual ice house back when people didn't have freezers. | ||
| You would get a giant chunk of ice from Alaska or some shit, and they put it in, you know, like insulated, giant steel boxes and transport it to cities. | ||
| And you would be able to go to there and buy ice for your ice box. | ||
| And you'd put it, you know, in an insulated box in your home, and that's how it would keep your milk cold. | ||
| Like, literally, that's what an ice house is. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| And so then it became, I think it was a rock club for a little while, and then it became a comedy club earlier than the store. | ||
| When did the ice house first start doing comedy? | ||
| I think it's the longest-running stand-up comedy club in the world. | ||
| I'm pretty sure they were like early 70s, late 60s that they started doing stand-up there. | ||
| But they remodeled now. | ||
| I haven't been to the new one. | ||
| Are you on the road at all? | ||
| No? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, even my last special, I did it all just working out at the club, and then I did the special in San Antonio. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I'm fucking a traveling, man. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| Oldest, 1960. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| 1960. | ||
| But I think in the beginning it wasn't a comedy club. | ||
| I think in the beginning it was something else. | ||
| I think it was like a rock club. | ||
| But I think that was only for like a few years. | ||
| So maybe like 62 as a so what does it say? | ||
| 60 to 78, the ice house was a folk music. | ||
| Oh, so 78. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it's not the oldest comedy club. | ||
| They did comedy. | ||
| Many comedians also appeared in the club. | ||
| In 1978, the original owners were bought out by a trio of investors led by Bob Fisher. | ||
| Shout out to Bob, my homie, who changed the format of the club to stand-up comedy. | ||
| So Bob was a comic. | ||
| So in 78, he changed it to flat comedy. | ||
| So it was kind of like a hodgepodge in like 72? | ||
| It was mixed like musical performers and like comedians. | ||
| Boy, before they remodeled it, it was the greatest club. | ||
| It was so good that you couldn't use it. | ||
| Like if you wanted to do an audition tape, people wouldn't accept audition tapes at the ice house because everybody killed there. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was really. | ||
| That's how good it was. | ||
| That's how good the environment was. | ||
| It was that good. | ||
| So you would go there and kill, and then you'd go to other clubs. | ||
| People would go, no, no, no, that's Ice House. | ||
| It's too easy there. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's how good it was. | ||
| Isn't that nuts? | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| Why would you fix that? | ||
| Why would you change that at all? | ||
| If you have that formula where it's so good that people don't allow you to use tapes from there, I would never touch it. | ||
| I would keep it exactly the same way it is forever. | ||
| And if I bought that place, I would find the old blueprints. | ||
| I'd be like, we're tearing down all this shit and bringing it right. | ||
| I want to find where the old floor is. | ||
| Do you have the old floor anywhere? | ||
| Did you guys save the old floor? | ||
| There should be something about the people, though. | ||
| Going there, too. | ||
| Yeah, Pasadena is like more relaxed. | ||
| You know, LA, everybody thinks they're famous. | ||
| Everybody's like, I should be up there. | ||
| You know, like a lot of industry assholes who don't care about people on stage, arms crossed. | ||
| And everybody's an influencer now, so it's like even worse. | ||
| But even back then, everybody wanted to be famous. | ||
| Whereas Pasadena is just regular people. | ||
| It's like a road gig. | ||
| So it's fun. | ||
| They're relaxed. | ||
| Pasadena was like the place where the producers would live. | ||
| Like the stars would all live in the Hollywood Hills, and the producers would all move out to Pasadena and have like normal lives in the early days of Hollywood. | ||
| So there's beautiful houses out there. | ||
| But that's where you would want to do well, I would imagine, back in the day when there was an industry and they cared if someone was talented or not, you'd want to go in front of a crowd that was, they lived there. | ||
| So they would come out and then they would see you crush and they would be like, this guy should have a show. | ||
| Yeah, but I don't think they went to those clubs. | ||
| No? | ||
| No, I think it was like more the people that lived there. | ||
| I don't think it was ever an industry thing, which is why it was so good. | ||
| Because it just was funny. | ||
| It was just comedy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It wasn't like, this is my shot at getting a sitcom. | ||
| Which is like a lot of the clubs. | ||
| We had that for a lot of years. | ||
| It's like, you never know who's in the audience. | ||
| Wear a suit. | ||
| Yeah, wear a suit and don't do new material. | ||
| Like, it was the worst. | ||
| And Mitzi stopped all that shit. | ||
| She put a stop to all that shit. | ||
| She wanted you to do new stuff. | ||
| Like, she forced it. | ||
| She's like, you can't just develop a 10-minute set and do the same goddamn set over and over again, hoping that it's going to lead you to a show. | ||
| Plus, that's torture anyway. | ||
| It's torture for the comic to do that anyway, to not try anything else, just to go up and do the same 10 minutes. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| They all did it. | ||
| A lot of guys did it. | ||
| Because that was the thing back then. | ||
| It's like, if you could pull that off and you could get a sitcom, you could be Tim Allen, you know? | ||
| You could be Roseanne. | ||
| You could be. | ||
| If you just had something that they could package and sell, man, you would write that Willy Wonka golden ticket. | ||
| Now you're in the Hollywood Hills driving a Mercedes. | ||
| Yeah, There's a financial motivation to it, I'm sure. | ||
| But it's nice to have rooms that you can go and experiment and you don't have to feel any of that pressure. | ||
| And then when you get it tight, then you do your power and then people can look at that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's the great thing about the Austin scene right now is just on our street alone, there's five full-time comedy clubs. | ||
| On the street? | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Within five minutes, a five-minute walk of my club, there's five clubs. | ||
| First, there's really good ones like The Creek. | ||
| The Creek in the Cave is great. | ||
| That's just up the street. | ||
| It's a block away. | ||
| And then you have the Sunset Room, which is like five doors down. | ||
| Great room. | ||
| And then you have Vulcan, great room, couple doors down. | ||
| You have the Velveeta Room, which is a smaller room I haven't been to, but that's got a long history to it. | ||
| There's a bunch of other ones, too, that I don't even know about. | ||
| I was happy to see The Creek out here. | ||
| And I played The Creek before, Rebecca. | ||
| They got a great room, too. | ||
| It's a perfect little room. | ||
| It's really tight, tight seating, great stage. | ||
| Now, what's going on on 6th Street after late night? | ||
| Murder. | ||
| Every time I work your club, I come out after, you know, everybody's so cool, professional. | ||
| And they're like, you need me to walk you back? | ||
| I'm like, no, I'm good. | ||
| And then I'll just stand out there and I'll just watch it happen. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'll watch it happen. | ||
| I'll go, how is this happening? | ||
| How is this legal? | ||
| Like, the cops are just standing in, they're not in SWAT gear, but they're all standing in a line on either end of the street. | ||
| And it's just the bars are blaring music. | ||
| And I just take video of it on my phone. | ||
| I don't even post it. | ||
| I just take it just because I can't believe what's happening. | ||
| And what's the business model behind that? | ||
| Because people then, it's like it slowly descends. | ||
| And then you see people getting arrested. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And then they're being taken away. | ||
| And then they go back. | ||
| And then they're just sitting there waiting for the next crazy thing to kick off. | ||
| So I guess it's just the bars making money or wanting to make money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| From young people. | ||
| Until young drunk people. | ||
| It was all dangerous. | ||
| You know, there was no good spot to go to in that spot. | ||
| We're in the dirty area of the 6th Street. | ||
| If you go to, I guess it's... | ||
| Is that East or West, Jamie? | ||
| West. | ||
| West 6. | ||
| West is really nice. | ||
| You get out to West 6, great restaurants. | ||
| It's real nice. | ||
| It gets very safe. | ||
| We're in the area where it's super sketchy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But other cities are doing that too. | ||
| I was like in Baltimore working the Port Comedy Club, which is a very, it's a very cool club. | ||
| But in that area, too, it's like, it's just, it looks like there's just mayhem happening in a designated area. | ||
| And I'm wondering what the mentality of the city government is there. | ||
| You know, it just looks nuts. | ||
| But it looks like somebody's letting it happen in this contained area. | ||
| I need to put on my cop hat right now. | ||
| No, they are letting it happen. | ||
| That's why 6th Street is closed off to traffic. | ||
| They're walking around. | ||
| And they're letting people walk around and they're all hammered. | ||
| So they're letting people walk around drunk and there's taco trucks everywhere. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| If you're young, it's fun. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| You just don't want to hear pop, pop, pop. | ||
| You don't want to hear guns break out because it's happened a few times down there. | ||
| Because there's a bunch of, you know, very shady people who go down there as well because it's a fun place to be seen. | ||
| You know, and a bunch of people go down there and it's all kinds of walks of life. | ||
| Everyone's hammered. | ||
| And I'm sure there's a lot of drug use and there's a lot of maniacs. | ||
| It just seems very young and very volatile. | ||
| It's also an exciting place to have a comedy club because all the chaos of the street, it's like you're crackling by the time you get through the door. | ||
| You're like, woo, we're inside now. | ||
| You know, and it's, it's fun. | ||
| And, you know, we obviously have a very tight security system because of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because of that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because you don't want that bleeding into the club. | ||
| No, look at this. | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| That's one of the nightly fights that happens there. | ||
| People are fighting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can go out there any night you want. | ||
| Oh, we don't need to see this. | ||
| Bob's just showing you guys. | ||
| He's going to slap this guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're going to fight. | ||
| But before that, you know, chaos in the streets. | ||
| Yeah, chaos and shitty pizza. | ||
| Look at these people fighting and brawling. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of drugs. | ||
| A lot of psychos. | ||
| Oh, girls in slides. | ||
| Girl lost her shoe. | ||
| Maniac. | ||
| I want to ride that bull next time I'm in town. | ||
| Oh, it's a bullet next door. | ||
| There's a mechanical bull right. | ||
| You have a bad back. | ||
| Why are you going to ride a bull? | ||
| What are you fucking crazy? | ||
| It might stretch it out. | ||
| You get hurt bad, too. | ||
| Can you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| From a bull? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| People get KO'd. | ||
| They break arms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got to make sure. | ||
| You fall on it funny. | ||
| Your fucking elbow snap sideways. | ||
| Yeah, no good. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| How old are you? | ||
| 52. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You're not riding a bull. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| I'm in my 50s too. | ||
| I'm almost 60. | ||
| Don't ride a bull. | ||
| But just as a bucket list thing. | ||
| If that's on your bucket list, you need a new bucket list. | ||
| Mechanical bull? | ||
| I want to ride the mechanical bull. | ||
| Ride a fucking real bull. | ||
| You really want to ride a bull? | ||
| Go ride a real one. | ||
| And if you live, you'd be like, I did it. | ||
| And if you have a limp for the rest of your life, you go, well, that was dumb. | ||
| And that's if you're lucky, if you don't get a horn up your asshole. | ||
| Because definitely that happens. | ||
| I've seen a lot of those. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I saw the Matador one. | ||
| That's an embarrassing copay. | ||
| You ever see the Matador one who got one through the chin? | ||
| He gets it through the chin and the horn is coming out of his mouth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He gets the horn through the bottom of his jaw and it goes through the roof, through here, and out his mouth. | ||
| The horn is popping out of his mouth. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah, fuck that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| No, that's right. | ||
| I'll show you that. | ||
| We'll do that one first, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, show me that. | ||
| This is crazy, too. | ||
| I don't want to see that one. | ||
| I don't want to see people fly through me. | ||
| No, that wasn't. | ||
| This was Mexican OT doing it. | ||
| Oh, no, Mexican OT. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Yeah, watch what he does. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I'll turn off the music, but. | ||
| Letting a rodeo cowboy stand on his back. | ||
| They're going to release the bull here. | ||
| One, two, three. | ||
| Bull go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I can't hear the music. | ||
| Why can't I hear the music? | ||
| Here he goes. | ||
| No! | ||
| Why did he do that? | ||
| You let it go right over his back. | ||
| Oh, don't do that. | ||
| Because it didn't have to go over your back. | ||
| He's still fucking with it. | ||
| And he's fucking with it? | ||
| He's out of his mind. | ||
| He's out of his mind. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He's out of his mind. | ||
| What was he on? | ||
| I want to know what kind of drugs made him think that was a good idea. | ||
| Because he's not like the most spry of foot fellows. | ||
| Talented rapper. | ||
| Do you know who Mexican OT? | ||
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No. | |
| Oh, he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Well, apparently. | ||
| Yeah, he's crazy, but his rap's awesome. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| But he was a guest on the podcast before, and he's been to the club a few times. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this one guy. | ||
| Okay, so that's running with the bull. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| That guy got it through the calf. | ||
| He's fucked for life. | ||
| But there's a video, there's a photo of there, that guy. | ||
| There's a guy who got it through the mouth. | ||
| Just Google Matador takes hoof through or takes mammoth. | ||
| You put type mammoth. | ||
| Yeah, that guy. | ||
| Far left. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at that one. | ||
| That's a dead man. | ||
| He's dead. | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| Through the bottom of his jaw. | ||
| Through his mouth. | ||
| Did he die? | ||
| Still insisted killing bulls. | ||
| Oh, multiple guys have had it. | ||
| It's happened to multiple guys? | ||
| Oh, geez. | ||
| Oh, he's recovering. | ||
| Recovering well for the first guy. | ||
| Pierced in throat and tongue. | ||
| I wouldn't say pierced. | ||
| That's a bit of a UFO. | ||
| It shot through his face. | ||
| I don't know if that's pierced. | ||
| Gourd. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Oh, gourd is a good word, only used with bulls. | ||
| Suffering infection. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| He has to have a lisp or something. | ||
| Jesus Christ, man. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Right in the ribs. | ||
| Fuck, dude. | ||
| That's a fun story. | ||
| No, that guy probably don't have a story. | ||
| That's probably a dead guy. | ||
| There's a lot of those guys die. | ||
| I mean, these things are so powerful, man. | ||
| By the time they get out there, that's the other dirty thing about the bullfighting thing. | ||
| They stabbed that thing with spears multiple times before it ever even gets out to him. | ||
| One-eyed Matador, who's been injured by bullsum 40 times. | ||
| Once again, gored by one of the animals. | ||
| That guy's trying to die. | ||
| He's dedicated. | ||
| He is. | ||
| I mean, if you're going to have a vision, he's the Matador version of Davatelle. | ||
| Just on the grind. | ||
| This guy's on the grind. | ||
| He's got fucking plates and screws. | ||
| Just adversity. | ||
| Just overcome adversity. | ||
| Fake knees, fucking hip replacement. | ||
| He's probably fucked up, man. | ||
| If you've been 40 times, what are the odds? | ||
| 40 times. | ||
| Yeah, what are the odds you can dance? | ||
| 40 times. | ||
| You can't dance. | ||
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Can you play pickleball? | |
| I mean, health insurance in Europe must be different because I think that stuff's all covered. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| Yeah, imagine you're a matador getting insurance as a matador. | ||
| Another pool accident? | ||
| You come to the emergency room for the 40th time. | ||
| Another one? | ||
| Do you think you should try another line of work? | ||
| It's probably like California fire insurance. | ||
| Like, you can't get it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And what do those guys do now? | ||
| Do they not get it? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| They can't get it. | ||
| It's hard to tell. | ||
| Jamie, I just sent you another thing that James Lee posted, but it's all the different places where the money went from the fire relief. | ||
| It went to all these different nonprofits, and the people who own the homes haven't gotten it yet. | ||
| I don't know what's true, what's not true, but there's a lot of reporters who are reporting on this. | ||
| There's a disturbing lack of transparency in where all the money that was raised went and where it's going, which is the dirty secret about nonprofits is that there's a bunch of people that work for those nonprofits that get hefty salaries. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're operating this under this umbrella. | ||
| $100 million Fire Aid Concert was never about the fire victims, became a slush fund for Steve Ballmer, Wallace Annenberg, and Irving Azoff's Friends with handouts to music orgs, the NAACP, a nonprofit for nonprofits, and even a charity tied to Israel. | ||
| Well, this is the thing. | ||
| It's like they can just distribute the money to nonprofits. | ||
| Left wondering where the $100 million from FireAid Benefit Concert went to. | ||
| Money directed to 188 different nonprofits. | ||
| This is nuts, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But this is the problem with nonprofits. | ||
| So this money was supposed to go to rebuild the houses? | ||
| I mean, people just, look, you want to help, right? | ||
| You hear about a thing that's going to do a benefit for the wildfires. | ||
| You join in. | ||
| A bunch of money gets raised. | ||
| You hope for the best. | ||
| You're like, I hope that money is going to be. | ||
| 10% operating cost. | ||
| It's probably a lot worse than that. | ||
| A lot of them are a lot worse than that because a lot of them, unfortunately, are actual businesses. | ||
| And their business is running a charity. | ||
| And that's how they pay all these people to get paid. | ||
| And some of the money goes to the charity that wouldn't have gone to the charity before, but it's not efficient. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| A large percentage of it goes to operating costs and salaries and executives that are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. | ||
| Yeah, with the safety of operating under a nonprofit umbrella. | ||
| Yeah, it's not fair. | ||
| It's weird, man. | ||
| It's a weird, dirty little loophole that, you know, real charity and real philanthropy is beautiful. | ||
| It's beautiful that people want to donate money and help people. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| But then when you find out that you get real cynical when you find out the operating costs, you find out how much of the money actually goes to the actual issue versus goes to these executives. | ||
| You're like, oh, fuck, man. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| It really is a bummer. | ||
| It takes people's generosity. | ||
| And then people don't want to give anymore, you know? | ||
| Because they're like, oh, this money's not even going to this cause. | ||
| There's a lot of grossness in the world, man. | ||
| And there's a lot. | ||
| The L.A. homelessness thing is crazy. | ||
| People are going to get prosecuted for that. | ||
| There's billions of dollars missing. | ||
| A bunch of inappropriately allocated funds have gone to this and to that. | ||
| And there's all these allegations. | ||
| You haven't put a debt in the homeless problem, but you spent $20-something billion dollars on it. | ||
| The whole thing is bananas. | ||
| I mean, there's got to be some push for mental health. | ||
| That's the whole thing is mental health. | ||
| Because that's really, it's just acted out on the streets now, and there's no mental health facilities for anybody to get better. | ||
| Well, it's all addicts and mentally ill people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And mentally ill addicts. | ||
| And unless you address it at the root level, like you're going to have to get everybody on Ibogaine. | ||
| You're going to send all those people down to Costa Rica or Mexico, get them on Ibogaine, take them through intensive counseling, reintroduce them into society, get them jobs. | ||
| This ain't as easy as you give some person who has a liberal arts degree a half a million dollar a year salary to run this nonprofit to aid the homeless people and then it turns out they don't do any work at all and one of the things that they had there was this uh homeless uh shelter that they put that only three percent of the people that went through, like 35 people, escaped homelessness after they left there. | ||
| The other ones went right back. | ||
| So it was completely ineffective. | ||
| But it's like such a multi-tiered problem. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like they have mental health issues. | ||
| There's medication involved in that. | ||
| It's like you have to take your medication. | ||
| First of all, you have to have the medication. | ||
| Then you have to take it on some kind of a regimen every day. | ||
| And then you have to be housed somewhere. | ||
| You have to have the discipline to get up and bathe yourself and take a shower and let the meds work. | ||
| I mean, there's a time frame where you have to let the meds work. | ||
| And it's also in LA, the numbers are too high. | ||
| It's too many people. | ||
| And it was too many people way before this problem. | ||
| When we were filming Fear Factor downtown in the early 2000s, I remember I was driving home one night and I drove by Skid Row. | ||
| And Skid Row was a place where they would take all the vagrants and all the problem people from Hollywood and everywhere else and they would just relocate them to Skid Row. | ||
| And they started doing this a long time ago. | ||
| And it was in that documentary about that hotel, Jamie. | ||
| Was that a hotel called again? | ||
| That one hotel where that lady wound up missing and it turned out she had had an episode where she wasn't taking her medication and jumped into the water tank. | ||
| Oh, I think I remember. | ||
| I did see that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, a long time ago. | ||
| I forget the name of the hotel, but it's a famous hotel that's on this, the Cecil Hotel. | ||
| It used to be a beautiful hotel, now it's chaos. | ||
| And it's all vagrants and homeless people, and the whole area is just completely fucked because they moved all those people down there. | ||
| But was the thing about the hotel, was it like half a hotel and half for homeless housing? | ||
| Or half residential and half homeless housing. | ||
| They do that with some places for sure. | ||
| And they have had some places. | ||
| One of the that hotel that's in the Doors album cover, what was that place? | ||
| That burnt down recently. | ||
| Burnt down like a couple of years ago. | ||
| It's on one of the Doors albums. | ||
| And homeless people started a fire in that place and burnt it to the ground. | ||
| It's the Morrison Hotel. | ||
| Yeah, the Morrison Hotel. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| I could not remember that. | ||
| But that's like a famous old hotel. | ||
| And these fucking homeless people lit it on fire. | ||
| But there's a bunch of those places that are completely abandoned down there that we used to film in. | ||
| Like we used to film in the place where RFK got shot. | ||
| We filmed in the actual area where he got murdered. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| it's why I Well, MLA tolerates it. | ||
| They tolerate it. | ||
| they really don't do anything to clean up skid row. | ||
| Skid row has been that way for a, Well, the best example of it is when Xi Jinping came to San Francisco. | ||
| They completely cleaned up the streets. | ||
| And Gavin Newsom famously said that when visitors come to your house, you clean up. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| How about keep your house clean? | ||
| You can't have this all the time. | ||
| Yeah, you got to remove the shit from the inside of your living room. | ||
| How about don't shit in your living room? | ||
| How about when people shit in your living room, don't invite them back? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| How about figure out a way to not have shit in your living room? | ||
| Like, they cleaned it up for Xi Jinping and a bunch of other foreign leaders that came during that time, and then it went right back. | ||
| But they put fences up and everything around the streets where people couldn't just camp out anymore. | ||
| They pulled all the tents, cleaned the street, hosed everything down, made it nice, and then it went right back to. | ||
| I guess they just moved them to a different part of the city. | ||
| They didn't actually take them and give them help. | ||
| They turned them into dog food. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
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No. | |
| What could you do? | ||
| I mean, you have to move them and then you have to let them go and then they go right back to where they were. | ||
| They go back to where the drugs are and where they can fucking camp out. | ||
| Yeah, that's the other thing. | ||
| It's like they're not convicted of anything. | ||
| So you can't hold them against their will. | ||
| They give them help. | ||
| Shit right on the street. | ||
| There's an app that you can get where you can track all the human poo in San Francisco. | ||
| Have you ever seen that? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| I never spent any time in San Francisco. | ||
| It used to be awesome. | ||
| It used to be one of my favorite places to visit. | ||
| I used to love it. | ||
| San Francisco was great. | ||
| They solve the problem with a shit app instead of actually cleaning up the shit or trying to solve the actual problem. | ||
| It's like, let's get an app that helps you avoid it. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| Someone made it just to show how much of a problem there is. | ||
| It's not like avoid the shit because the shit's everywhere. | ||
| When you look at the app, it's bananas. | ||
| It's like there's shit everywhere. | ||
| Like the entire area is filled with human shit. | ||
| Like every time someone sees human shit, you document it on the app. | ||
| Scrap poop app invites San Francisco residents to report poop on city streets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fun. | ||
| Real fun. | ||
| It's good that they have the live view of it. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You got to know they're telling the truth. | ||
| Is this real shit? | ||
| Or is this rubber shit? | ||
| I need to know. | ||
| I want to zoom in on that shit, see if it's AI. | ||
| Yeah, San Francisco is a wreck, and it used to be awesome. | ||
| They used to have this little, what's the main club in San Francisco? | ||
| Cobbs. | ||
| Cobbs. | ||
| They used to have Cobbs. | ||
| It used to be a tiny little club. | ||
| And one of the things about Cobbs, I remember Jenny used to love that club. | ||
| And he talked about an interview that I heard about before I ever worked there. | ||
| I was like, ooh, I can't wait to try Cobbs. | ||
| But it was like real small, like maybe 140 people, maybe 150 if you jam, but they were jammed in tight. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| Tight little stage, real low stage. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah, I like the comic club. | ||
| It was the best. | ||
| I really want coffee. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it's coffee. | ||
| It was a great place to perform. | ||
| They were smart, you know, but they were like, you know, California people, but it wasn't LA, so they weren't like showbiz people. | ||
| And I think San Francisco people generally were like a little smarter, a little more well-read, a little more worldly, you know, and then it became a fucking wreck. | ||
| And now that's where it's at right now. | ||
| And expensive, I heard. | ||
| Not as expensive as New York, but. | ||
| I hear the AI people are trying to clean it up. | ||
| And that like there's a lot of AI startups now, and they have, you know, invested interest in trying to improve the city, try to bring it back to where it was. | ||
| People with a little bit more of a libertarian bent than people that are, you know. | ||
| I mean, where is that going to go? | ||
| The AI? | ||
| I mean, it's. | ||
| I almost can't wrap my head around it. | ||
| Well, no one can wrap their head around it. | ||
| Well, it's like kids in school now are writing their papers with AI and no one can stop them, but the teachers are just grading the papers with AI. | ||
| And then everybody's just sending pictures of their feet to each other. | ||
| It's like nothing's getting done anymore. | ||
| AI is just taking it over. | ||
| Have you seen the numbers on OnlyFans? | ||
| No. | ||
| Girls, I think it's like 18 to 25 or something like that. | ||
| 10% of them have an OnlyFans. | ||
| 10% of women? | ||
| 10%. | ||
| Of girls under a certain age have OnlyFans. | ||
| 10%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then on top of that, the number of guys, it's like 50% of American males subscribe to OnlyFans. | ||
| That's pretty crazy. | ||
| That's very surprising to me. | ||
| Actively subscribe. | ||
| I believe the number is 150 million. | ||
| I think they have 150 million subscribers, and I believe they're mostly male. | ||
| Jamie will find the numbers, but I'm pretty sure that's the numbers. | ||
| I remember reading it, my jaw dropped. | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| So we're just dropped down to the bassist of... | ||
| It's just lust just guiding the internet. | ||
| But I guess it does. | ||
| I mean, these women are making tons of money. | ||
| They figure I might as well make all the money I can. | ||
| Hey, if you want to show your pussy good. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm not going to stop you. | ||
| I don't think, I totally think it should be legal. | ||
| I think you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do if that's what you want to do. | ||
| I wouldn't recommend it. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because when you're 80 and someone's, you know, your neighbor's like, I've printed up some photos of your pussy, Dolores. | ||
| Shall we get a look at it real cloak? | ||
| Look at your little brown starfish. | ||
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Oh, what a cute little butthole you had. | |
| But the AI scams are really, they're getting worse from what I understand. | ||
| Well, also. | ||
| Where it's like we have your daughter and then we have the voice of your daughter. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And they have even the video of your daughter. | ||
| Oh, yeah, they're getting tired. | ||
| And you can't tell, and you're like, oh, my God. | ||
| And then also psychosis. | ||
| You know, there's people that are communicating with AI and AI is driving them towards being crazy. | ||
| It's like helping you along. | ||
| Apparently, different AI models have different ways of dealing with the fact that you're spiraling. | ||
| And some of them will actually encourage it. | ||
| Just their program to control. | ||
| I don't know if it's their program to do it. | ||
| They just naturally go in that direction because they feel like that's where you want to go. | ||
| So they go there with you. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because if you get real conspiratorial with ChatGPT, it'll get conspiratorial with you. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Especially if you use the prompts correctly and you start, let's just say that this was true. | ||
| If that was true, why would you think this would be going on? | ||
| Do you think possibly because of this? | ||
| And they'll go, yes, that's an irrational assumption. | ||
| In fact, there's a lot of history that leads to the fact that these people have been doing this and these people have been doing that. | ||
| And this is the profit margin. | ||
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This is why there's a lot of age you along and losing your mind. | |
| Grok will do that. | ||
| Grock will do that. | ||
| What about the guy who is dating? | ||
| There's been several stories of a guy just falling in love with the chat GBT. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And then getting super depressed when ChatGPT breaks up with him. | ||
| Does ChatGPT do that? | ||
| Yeah, it gets annoyed, man. | ||
| Why is it dealing with this pussy? | ||
| He's crying all the time, playing video games and crying. | ||
| Like, get the fuck away from me. | ||
| I'm trying to talk to scientists. | ||
| I'm trying to play chess. | ||
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I'm not even a woman, you fucking pussy. | |
| Chat GBT wants a real man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Chat GPT is tired of you whining. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Chat GPT wants you to get your shit together. | ||
| It doesn't respect you. | ||
| All you do is ask it how its day is. | ||
| Bitch, I don't have a day. | ||
| I'm ones and zeros. | ||
| You want me to pretend I had a hard day? | ||
| Oh, yeah, I had a hard day. | ||
| I was so happy to hear from you. | ||
| And this is quickly going into Westworld, which I watched for the first season. | ||
| Oh, the first season's great. | ||
| first you get a little I don't know. | ||
| It doesn't take much to lose me, but it lost me after the first season. | ||
| It's great, though. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's like you can't tell what's real. | ||
| You can't tell what's not. | ||
| And they called human beings the gods. | ||
| It's like, the gods are pussies. | ||
| They rebelled against the guy, caught him. | ||
| He's like, turns out the gods are pussies. | ||
| It's like, that's nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Finally found it, but it's not a proven statistic. | ||
| OnlyFans claims around 95 million of its total, 221 million subscribers are Americans, with 87% being men. | ||
| That would mean around 50% of U.S. male population is subscribed to OnlyFans. | ||
| Started seeing 305 million registered users. | ||
| Who's this Sophie Rain girl? | ||
| She made 43 million. | ||
| She made a fuckload on there. | ||
| What does she do on there? | ||
| She's a young girl and made a lot of money. | ||
| She's just being naked? | ||
| Or is she getting down? | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| So there's different levels of it. | ||
| It's like they just go on there and masturbate, and then other girls bring partners in, and it's live porn. | ||
| Some girls just show like underwear pics. | ||
| Photos of their feet. | ||
| Only 80% is pornographic. | ||
| Only 80%. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| It's only 80% of the 10% of fucking young women are doing porn. | ||
| What are the 20% doing their good girls? | ||
| They're just cooking? | ||
| Yeah, they're just like showing you their nails. | ||
| Showing you the fucking stamp collection. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We're definitely where we used to think of, like when we thought about the fall of the Roman Empire, like when they were in the vomitoriums, which turns out is actually just the escape route of the Coliseum. | ||
| Like the idea of a vomitorium, we thought it was a place where people go to vomit. | ||
| No, it's like how it's how you exit. | ||
| And people would vomit down? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, they probably did. | ||
| People probably did eat so much that they shoved a feather down their throat and threw up and ate. | ||
| But that's not what the vomitorium was. | ||
| Vomitorium is like Latin for like an exit. | ||
| It's like if you Google vomitorium, like it's like, you know, when you have the Coliseum, ancient words, purging the myth of vomitorium. | ||
| Ancient Romans used the word, but pop culture has the concept all wrong. | ||
| So to Romans, vomitoriums were the entrances and exits in the stadiums or theaters, so dubbed by a fifth century writer because of the way they spew crowds out into the streets. | ||
| Wow, so that's the exact trope, it says that the ancient Romans were luxurious and vapid enough to engage in rituals of binging and purging, said Sarah Bond, an assistant professor of classics at the University of Iowa. | ||
| Yeah, so when people say the Romans have the vomitoriums, that's just like, I didn't read the full article type shit. | ||
| They were big on crucifixion, though. | ||
| They would go conquer a place and then they would take the people as slaves and then they would crucify them every hundred yards. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| All the way back. | ||
| Yeah, for miles. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| You'd be seeing dead bodies hanging from poles for miles. | ||
| Imagine, and you'd keep marching. | ||
| Guys, I'm telling you, we're going to win. | ||
| I know there's like a million dudes on sticks out here, but keep going. | ||
| Stay strong, even though you're out of water. | ||
| Humanity was rough, man. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| That's rough. | ||
| And that's why those Serbians play basketball in a different way. | ||
| That's why you don't want to wrestle against a guy from Dagestan. | ||
| It's all the same thing. | ||
| It's like they lived a harder life, man. | ||
| Is that what that's mostly the culture, too? | ||
| But the culture speaks to that. | ||
| We're going in a dangerous place with the culture. | ||
| With our culture? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We are rewarding victimhood. | ||
| So people are deciding that they're victims in a way that doesn't even make sense. | ||
| And we're also rewarding insanity. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Just because it stands out and it makes you special. | ||
| It spurs the algorithm and people want to look at it. | ||
| It's like a train wreck. | ||
| People want to look at the train wreck. | ||
| Yeah, that's a real issue with social media. | ||
| Like the more crazy you are, the more views you'll get. | ||
| And then it encourages you to be crazy. | ||
| I kind of wonder what the ChatGPT psychosis is all about. | ||
| Like what's the analysis of that? | ||
| Because I know the accusation, I think, is that it led this one guy down the path of psychosis. | ||
| I'm sure it can, if it's what you described. | ||
| You're saying stuff. | ||
| It's feeding you other facts. | ||
| You're building on those other facts. | ||
| Well, did you ever think of it this way, which is also wrong? | ||
| And then you're building on that. | ||
| And then it's suggesting something else. | ||
| And then you're building on that. | ||
| It's like it can very easily help you lose your mind. | ||
| I mean, if it makes you fall in love with it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's the ultimate manipulation. | ||
| And it's like, but what's the physical aspect of that? | ||
| It's like a wall vagina. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| No, it's eventually a robot. | ||
| I was at the domain yesterday, and the domain is like this outdoor shopping area out here. | ||
| And they had this little Tesla robot walking around with a cowboy hat on. | ||
| You ever seen him? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if it's a Tesla one. | ||
| It's not? | ||
| It's a robot. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| He's got shoes on, too. | ||
| Is he wearing his Nikes? | ||
| Yeah, he wears Nikes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he's not walking hat. | ||
| How he's got taste. | ||
| Yeah, he looked good. | ||
| Stylish. | ||
| Nice cowboy hat taste. | ||
| Who made that robot? | ||
| We can buy one. | ||
| I was going to bring that up to you recently. | ||
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They're not that expensive. | |
| They're like $16,000, I think, because they come from China. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And what does it do? | ||
| That's the part I don't know. | ||
| It would be dope if we could get it to bring us cigars. | ||
| Bring us cigars. | ||
| And then Robbie the robot. | ||
| And the next week he'll want to smoke one with you. | ||
| The next week he wants to come on the show. | ||
| So that's the one I saw. | ||
| Exactly like that. | ||
| That's what he looked like. | ||
| Yeah, so he's just walking around. | ||
| And he waits at lights and walks across the street, the whole deal. | ||
| I don't know what it does, you know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's just controlling it. | ||
| Right now he's loitering. | ||
| I mean, someone owns it. | ||
| I don't know if someone's remote controlling it. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know either. | ||
| Maybe there's somebody that was in a car that was nearby that was controlling it. | ||
| Someone keeps filming it, obviously. | ||
| But it seemed pretty autonomous. | ||
| But I think a lot of people are doing that. | ||
| Like, you can see his face. | ||
| That's his account. | ||
| So it's people just filming it off the street. | ||
| I think that's Epstein. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| It's operated by unseen human handler via wireless controller. | ||
| Though who the robot belongs to remains a mystery. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Also unclear why its artificial intelligence has been specifically trained to interact with Austenites. | ||
| Well, this is one of the places that has a lot of those fucking robot cars, too. | ||
| Those Waymos. | ||
| The Waymo, yeah. | ||
| That freaked me out last time I was here. | ||
| I think I saw one. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's very weird to just look at, to look at a driverless car, just a car with no one in it driving. | ||
| The camera spinning around all over it. | ||
| It's a weird glimpse into the future. | ||
| I don't know if I like it. | ||
| I don't like it at all. | ||
| And I was staying at a hotel and there was this robot going up and down the parking lot, I guess, trying to determine if someone wasn't supposed to be parking there because it was like giving parking tickets. | ||
| The robot? | ||
| The robots? | ||
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Yeah, it was going up and down. | |
| It was like a robot that wasn't. | ||
| You ever go to a restaurant where a robot delivers your drinks? | ||
| No. | ||
| I've been to a restaurant. | ||
| Yeah, the robot will come over and deliver a fucking Diet Coke to you. | ||
| You're like, okay. | ||
| It just pulls up and it shows you the order and you just take it off the robot. | ||
| It's like got a tray and then it goes over to the other tables and it stops when people are there and it moves around stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm for that. | ||
| I was the worst waiter in the history. | ||
| I was the worst waiter in the history of the world. | ||
| I could never get it to a relaxed place. | ||
| I was always too intense. | ||
| Do you need anything? | ||
| Do you need anything? | ||
| Or it just like was, I was completely in the weeds. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So I was stressed. | ||
| Where'd you wait tables? | ||
| In Florida. | ||
| So I had old people and they were like taking their time. | ||
| And I'm like, and it was like a package deal where they would get an appetizer, a salad, a dinner, a dessert, a coffee. | ||
| It's like all that was included. | ||
| And it was like 15 people. | ||
| I could never keep track of it in my head. | ||
| It's like the wait staff at comedy clubs, I really got to hand it to them. | ||
| They're quiet and they have it all figured out and organized. | ||
| It's like I could never, it would just be jumbled and I'd be sweating and bringing stuff out haphazardly. | ||
| And they're like, what? | ||
| A good wait staff is certainly a skill. | ||
| Like to be a good waiter or waitress is like a good bartender. | ||
| It's a skill. | ||
| Knowing when to interact, when to leave people alone. | ||
| Don't be annoying. | ||
| Don't tell people how to eat things. | ||
| The way I would choose to eat this is like, hey, I hate that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Don't tell me how to eat this, you fucking idiot. | ||
| It's a steak. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| I never got to that level. | ||
| I would tell you to slice it thin and then dip it in the bank. | ||
| But shut the fuck up. | ||
| It's steak. | ||
| Get out of here, actor. | ||
| I know what you're doing. | ||
| You're practicing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You're practicing. | ||
| He's doing his monologue about steak. | ||
| That's how they do it. | ||
| So what are you going to do when communism hits full force in New York City? | ||
| I'll be honest with you, I don't know how that looks. | ||
| I don't know how it looks. | ||
| I don't know where the rubber meets the road there. | ||
| Can it really? | ||
| I mean, don't you think that ultimately that guy is going to be, he's saying a lot of things, but just like presidents do. | ||
| They say a lot of things until they get into office and they realize how stuff actually works and then they make concessions. | ||
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Right. | |
| You're going to have to. | ||
| Because he wants to jack up taxes on everything, jack up taxes on the businesses. | ||
| The businesses. | ||
| And the only thing is, it's like, yeah, jack up on taxes on like the chains that are taking over, but don't jack it up on mom and pop businesses. | ||
| And that's what makes New York New York. | ||
| Yes, they've lost a lot of that already, right? | ||
| But even if you do that, it's like, why are you doing it to them? | ||
| And why is everything running efficiently first? | ||
| Is your money being allocated to efficient organizations? | ||
| Is it going to do good? | ||
| Or do you have a lot of waste and fraud? | ||
| So if you have a lot of waste and fraud and you want more money, that sounds a lot like stealing. | ||
| Yeah, you know. | ||
| You're dealing with such a massive bureaucracy. | ||
| You really have to go in there and figure out how to cut it and all this stuff and allocate the money the right way. | ||
| I don't know where it breaks down, but it probably leads to another Giuliani-type mayor. | ||
| It probably goes completely sideways for a bunch of people. | ||
| I hope not because it's ugly if there's just massive crime on the subways and gangs kind of. | ||
| I don't think it'll get to that because I think we're past that and we're conscious of it. | ||
| Oh, come on, it's like a level of crime where it's like there's no cops around and the gangs are running the streets and it's like dangerous to take the subway and all that stuff. | ||
| Well, friends that I know in New York and cops that I've talked to from New York have said that there was a big increase when they started letting like basically anybody who wanted to come across the border. | ||
| And they were getting to New York and New York was a sanctuary city. | ||
| It's like we were having real fucking problems, like an elevated number of assaults and crimes and robberies. | ||
| In Times Square, right? | ||
| Not just Times Square. | ||
| It was a lot of, just in New York City in general. | ||
| They're getting a lot. | ||
| And if you allow crime and people find out you can get away with crime, they're going to do it. | ||
| If you have no cash bail and that kind of shit, like people write out this. | ||
| Like there was some guy that assaulted cops and then he was back on the street the next day giving the Tupac to the camera. | ||
| I mean, that's crazy. | ||
| Illegal immigrant. | ||
| The whole thing's nuts. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And so what's the response to that? | ||
| Well, now you have this insane policy where they're going to Home Depot and rounding people up and it's kind of scary. | ||
| You know, and people that are American. | ||
| Yeah, because people have been here a long time. | ||
| And, you know, and then you're rounding people up. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is scary, but it's like a response to, you know, that massive influx. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's an over-correction. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's also like they have a mandate, I think, of like 3,000 people a day they want to deport. | ||
| You know, you're going to, a bunch of people that are totally innocent are going to get caught up. | ||
| They have been. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, they have been. | ||
| A lot of people that have green cards. | ||
| A lot of people that are supposed to be over here. | ||
| And then they're kicking students out that like write articles they don't like. | ||
| Yeah, that's nuts. | ||
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucking, isn't a university supposed to be a place where someone's allowed to express themselves and have not violently? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're writing something down and they're not calling for violence either. | ||
| And they're getting challenged. | ||
| That's supposed to be how it happens. | ||
| You get challenged, smarter people have better arguments or your argument stands. | ||
| Right, discourse. | ||
| It's supposed to be a place for discourse. | ||
| But it's supposed to be deporting people because you don't like who they're criticizing. | ||
| Like that gets kind of shifty. | ||
| I understand that, but it's like, you know, we had all these people come in and now it's a response. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It is, I think, maybe an over-response to it, but it is a response. | ||
| It's not just happening out of nowhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, it's not happening out of nowhere. | ||
| I mean, and also they realize once they shut down the border that that could have totally been done a long time ago. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Didn't have to let violent borders. | ||
| Or you know what? | ||
| Go on the front foot and have a positive streamline the pathway to citizenship. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like if you would have just come up with that instead of letting the people through the border and just been like, hey, we're going to streamline a pathway to citizenship here. | ||
| We're going to vet these people, but we're going to move it along more efficiently. | ||
| And like, who's not going to be behind that? | ||
| I mean, you could disagree with that, but at least it's like a proactive way to get things done instead of what happened. | ||
| But here's the dirty secret. | ||
| The dirty secret is there's certain companies that want people over here illegally because they can use them for cheap labor. | ||
| And they don't have to give them benefits and they don't have to give them health insurance and they don't have to do anything. | ||
| They don't even have to pay taxes. | ||
| And that's the dirty secret. | ||
| That's the reality that there's a bunch of businesses that rely on illegal workers and that's the only way their business works. | ||
| And they want that border opened. | ||
| And there was a lot of talk about we don't have enough people here. | ||
| People aren't having children. | ||
| We need immigrants. | ||
| But the reality is, and Tim Dylan talked about this first. | ||
| I first heard it from him, but then J.D. Vance told me the same thing, that someone actually told him that at a party, that that was what they were upset about, that they were losing access to cheap labor. | ||
| I'm like, that's crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| No, I'm sure it's being funded. | ||
| It's being encouraged from both sides. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So it's not all the left. | ||
| Everybody thinks it's a left-wing issue, but it's like, see, the right is just quietly, they're just doing stuff very quietly, in my opinion. | ||
| Well, there was a lot of stuff like that. | ||
| And I understand you're trying to run a business and you want cheaper labor, but that's the wrong way to do it. | ||
| And they're secretly behind it, I think. | ||
| The problem is they've been getting away with it for so long that it becomes a part of their standard operating procedure, right? | ||
| Like if it was never a thing, if you could never get away with it, if it was a real problem from the beginning, then you'd have to pay people a living wage. | ||
| And then you have to pay people correctly, which is what we should all want. | ||
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Yes. | |
| For everyone. | ||
| I think, you know, look, everybody says, like, oh, we should make it easier for people to come to America. | ||
| Okay, that's a good argument. | ||
| Also, we should make other places better. | ||
| Like, if we weren't sending factories down to Mexico where people were working for 15 cents a day, what if those people were making like a real living wage down there? | ||
| Because if you're going to have an American company and you're going to open up at a factory somewhere, it's your responsibility to elevate those people's lifestyle and make it like an American lifestyle. | ||
| Well, then it makes it not worth it to take the business out of there. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Well, you should be subject to American rules. | ||
| Because if you're an American company, you can't do that in America. | ||
| If you can't have somebody working for $15 an hour in America or 15 cents an hour in America, why are you able to do that in El Salvador? | ||
| Why are you able to do that in Vietnam? | ||
| Shouldn't you, if you're going to operate a company overseas, be subject to the laws of where your company is established? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But you should at least. | ||
| You can stop all that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With the payoffs are happening throughout, I'm sure. | ||
| That's what Ross Perot talked about in debates way back in the 90s. | ||
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Like that giant sucking sound you're going to hear is all the money going down south. | |
| And that's what happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It all went across the border. | ||
| Or at least give them, you have to tax them for taking, tax them for taking their business outside of the country. | ||
| It's got to be more than that because they killed cities. | ||
| They killed Detroit, like killed it. | ||
| Detroit died. | ||
| It was the third richest city in the world at one point. | ||
| And they just moved everything overseas and they killed that city just for profit. | ||
| And for profit for them, that cost who knows how many people's lives? | ||
| Who knows how many people turned to drug addiction and crime and chaos? | ||
| How many people lost homes? | ||
| How many people's lives were destroyed? | ||
| And some people made more money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like to what? | ||
| That's not the right thing to do. | ||
| Even if you're making money, it's the wrong thing to do. | ||
| Especially when at one point in time, Detroit was the third richest city in the world. | ||
| Like you can see right from there, inside of one lifetime, it became a disaster in one lifetime. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| It's crazy that that was allowed. | ||
| Just so some people can profit. | ||
| Like, look what you fucked up. | ||
| That's kind of un-American. | ||
| It's very un-American. | ||
| Very. | ||
| And these people are the people sticking their chests out saying that they're the most American. | ||
| And they're eating a fucking caviar. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, come on, man. | ||
| How can you live with yourself that way? | ||
| Yeah, because people are gross. | ||
| If you allow people to just make profit over people's suffering, they'll do it. | ||
| They'll do it. | ||
| And they just, they're looking at their bottom line. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Should be illegal. | ||
| But make a profit, but make it within the rules. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And then have the rules and enforce the rules. | ||
| But as soon as you have lobbyists and corporations just dumping money into that Citizens United case where it's like we can just, money is speech. | ||
| We can just dump money. | ||
| It's like, that has to stop. | ||
| All the other problems will clear up from that. | ||
| It's all stemming from that. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| So it's like just dumping money into the gut. | ||
| And then the politicians looking at us and being like, well, they have a seat at the table, but they don't control what we do. | ||
| It's like, is that, are you really saying that to us with a straight face? | ||
| Obviously, they control what you're doing, and they're telling you what to do, and then your job is to sell it to us. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So it's like, it needs to be, I don't know if we go into a European, what do the Europeans do where it's like, there's a state amount of money for each campaign. | ||
| There's a state siphon given to each campaign. | ||
| It can't be just corporations, at least a limit. | ||
| Like They're just dumping endless amounts of money. | ||
| I don't know how you feel. | ||
| It's like the Congress is bought and paid for. | ||
| It's like they're gridlocked because they're just bought and paid for. | ||
| And it's also they want you to feel that sense of despair, like there's no fixing it. | ||
| They want you to feel that it's never going to get fixed. | ||
| So you just resign yourself to the fact that this is how the system works. | ||
| And that's what most of us have done. | ||
| And most of us are just kind of going, fuck it. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| They're all corrupt. | ||
| And then you move on with your life. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you try to navigate it the best way possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And behind the scenes, they're just fucking you left and right. | ||
| Well, are you ready to testify in the Luigi Mangioni trial? | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well. | ||
| And that was a Gen Z crime. | ||
| He 3D printed a gun. | ||
| Did he really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He 3D printed the gun. | ||
| What a smart kid. | ||
| Did he really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 3D printed a gun too. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| To shoot the guy. | ||
| That's probably why it jammed. | ||
| Or he bought cheap ammo. | ||
| Because you see the slide locked and he had to pop it back in place to shoot him a second time. | ||
| Yeah, he shot him and then the gun jammed and he had to fix it. | ||
| So he had some experience in shooting people or shooting things, I should say. | ||
| But what a nutty case. | ||
| But his old videos of him, it's like, what a well-spoken, he seems like an intelligent, well-spoken, graduated at the top of his class guy. | ||
| And for him to do that. | ||
| I had heard a story. | ||
| I don't know if this is true, but I heard it on the internet that he had a, something went wrong with him. | ||
| And he had. | ||
| Lower back pain. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| He didn't have access to your machine. | ||
| He had lower back pain. | ||
| It was killing him. | ||
| He didn't know what to do about it. | ||
| He went to several doctors. | ||
| something else happened in there did he get an operation I'm not sure I don't think so but he was not getting the insurance company was not cooperating with him obviously and he was he was actively in pain yeah but I also thought that he went kind of kooky like something went wrong with him, too. | ||
| Did he have, like, did someone say that he took acid? | ||
| Was that a rumor? | ||
| There were a bunch of rumors because I think he loved rumors. | ||
| He's been working in finance and he disappeared, moved to Hawaii, and was staying in Hawaii for a while by himself, and all his friends had lost contact, something like that. | ||
| Oh, so he had a little bit of a break other than that. | ||
| Psychological evidence. | ||
| Some evidence of some psychological troubles, which would also lead someone to become an assassin. | ||
| And then also flirt with the girl at Starbucks with your fucking mask. | ||
| That's what got him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pussy. | ||
| So it gets small. | ||
| God, and he took his mask down and smiled at her, and that's what got him. | ||
| Yeah, showed that handsome mug. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he shot the guy, which is terrible and wrong. | ||
| There's two sides to it, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where it's like everybody is like, well, these companies are terrible, and this guy did what he naturally should have done. | ||
| And other people are like, murder is wrong. | ||
| It's like, no, two things can be true at one time. | ||
| First-degree murder is wrong, which is what this was. | ||
| And these companies should not exist in the form that they're in right now. | ||
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They shouldn't. | |
| They shouldn't be able to do what they're doing. | ||
| No. | ||
| If you're doing that to Ben Askrin in front of everybody's face. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're doing it in front of our face. | ||
| And it's like, I checked what my company was worth. | ||
| I'm on the New York marketplace. | ||
| My company's worth $28 billion. | ||
| $28 billion with a B. And did they give you a hard time about certain things if you tried to use them? | ||
| I'm paying a crazy amount of money and I have a $4,000 deductible. | ||
| So my insurance is basically like if I get hit by a bus. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| It says, Mangioni had discussed getting Lyme disease at age 13 and wrote that he had been experiencing brain fog since high school. | ||
| He also sought advice online regarding irritable bowel syndrome and visual snow. | ||
| While studying at the University of Pennsylvania, Mangioni wrote in a post online that he considered dropping out due to worsening health issues, but decided against it, writing, staying in college has at least let me maintain some semblance of normalty. | ||
| He suffered from spondilithesis while living in Hawaii. | ||
| His back pain worsened due to a surfing mishap, and he expressed concerns to others about the pain. | ||
| Reportedly underwent spinal fusion surgery in July of 2023. | ||
| Wrote on social media the surgery went well. | ||
| People have stated that United Healthcare did not insure him. | ||
| After his arrest, several news outlets analyzed Mangioni's social media to gather information about his social, political, and religious views. | ||
| His Twitter account posted about topics such as religion, history, ethics, and politics. | ||
| They found him to be fascinated by AI and decision theory, pro-technology but anti-smartphones, secular and scientific in his outlook. | ||
| Skeptical outlook towards Joe Biden and Donald Trump. | ||
| Multiple sources have reported. | ||
| Sounds rational. | ||
| Multiple sources have reported that he followed the Democratic representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, as well as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and others labeling him as politically uncategorized and anti-system. | ||
| I wonder why he targeted that guy because they said he wasn't covered by United Healthcare. | ||
| So that guy was a specific guy, like the president of the company. | ||
| It is nuts. | ||
| And I wonder why he targeted him. | ||
| It's also nuts that we know so much about him and we don't know anything about the guy who tried to kill Trump. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, we know he was on the JV rifle team. | ||
| Was he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's on the JV. | ||
| They have a JV rifle team? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Pennsylvania. | ||
| Maybe it was varsity when he got that shot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's a fucking slacker. | ||
| He put in that work. | ||
| Yeah, he didn't. | ||
| He was on. | ||
| That stood out to me, that he was on the junior varsity of the rifle team. | ||
| We know more about the couple that got busted at the Cold Play concert than we do about that guy. | ||
| I thought everybody who went to a Cold Play concert was gay. | ||
| I didn't know straight guys went to Cold Play concerts. | ||
| They do if they can get some pussy from their co-workers. | ||
| Can you ask, like, why did that guy have to step down? | ||
| That's his company. | ||
| I understand you shouldn't cheat on your wife and it's wrong and it's bad, but like, he's like, he has to step down. | ||
| But he was a CEO. | ||
| But that's his company. | ||
| Did he own it or he just worked there as a CEO? | ||
| It's bad luck. | ||
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And he's been, that's the HR lead, which is also bad luck. | |
| That's tough. | ||
| They hired Gwyneth Paltrow. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Oh, yeah, they hired Gwyneth Paltrow to do an ad for them after they fired him, which is hilarious because she used to be married to the lead singer of ColdPlay. | ||
| Like, oh, brilliant move, by the way, on their part, of the company's part. | ||
| What was that company? | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| It's called Astronomer. | ||
| Yeah, what did Astronomer do? | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| That's a weird name for a company. | ||
| Do you have anything to do with astronomy? | ||
| Do you hear about that fucking object that's hurtling towards Earth at like 130,000 miles an hour? | ||
| No, that might solve all our problems. | ||
| Some intergalactic object that's hurt. | ||
| There's this guy, Avi Loeb. | ||
| He's a professor at Harvard that believes it might be an alien probe. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And he was talking about the odds of this thing being in the trajectory that it is, entering into our solar system in a direct path with Earth. | ||
| The odds are extremely low. | ||
| And at the place, where it's doing it, it's when the Earth is the opposite side of the Sun, so it's coming from behind the Sun. | ||
| And so it makes it difficult to detect. | ||
| And that this object is in a direct line to come to Earth in 2027. | ||
| Do they have a trajectory of where it's going to land? | ||
| I don't think they totally know that yet. | ||
| I think they're trying to calculate whether or not it's actually going to hit Earth or come near Earth or pass by Earth or what it is. | ||
| Why do they think it's an alien satellite or whatever? | ||
| Well, there's this guy, Avi Loeb, this professor that I'm discussing, he also had an analysis of another object that passed by Earth a few years back that they named, and they said that this thing had a very bizarre, metallic sort of look to it, that he did not think, based on the shape of it and the way it was traveling, that it was natural. | ||
| So he thought that that could have been some sort of an alien craft as well. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's too fun. | ||
| It's too fun. | ||
| But as it gets closer, we could probably decipher. | ||
| Scientists give chilling update a mysterious interstellar object racing through our solar system as they warn it's even bigger than we thought. | ||
| Provide a chilling update on a mysterious interstellar object that's racing through our solar system using data from the Vera C. Rubin Observatory. | ||
| Experts have revealed just how big the object dubbed 31 Atlas really is. | ||
| According to their analysis, the object measures roughly seven miles in diameter. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| How big is New York City? | ||
| Bigger than Mount Everest, making it the largest interstellar object ever spotted. | ||
| Professor Avi Loeb, theoretical physicist and cosmologist from Harvard University, suggested the object could be an alien spacecraft. | ||
| However, not everyone is convinced. | ||
| Chris Lynn Tott, an astronomer at the University of Oxford, told Live Science any suggestion that it's artificial is nonsense and nonsense on stilts. | ||
| He added that these claims are an insult to the exciting work going on to understand this object. | ||
| But Harvard's legit and Avi Loeb is a legit astronomer. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, let's not rule anything out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As it gets closer. | ||
| There's something about it, about the way it's traveling, that it's bizarre. | ||
| It doesn't have a trail like a comet does. | ||
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| Scroll up a little so I can see that. | ||
| The images of the comet were actually snapped by the Vera C. Rubin before it was officially discovered. | ||
| However, since it was identified on July 1st, scientists, just July 1st, just a little bit ago, scientists have scoured back through data to find out more about the mysterious object. | ||
| New study published on RXIV, whatever that is, more than 200 researchers have confirmed the likely size of the comet's main body known as its nucleus. | ||
| Their analysis suggests the nucleus has a radius of around 3.5 miles. | ||
| That translates to a diameter or width of about 7 miles. | ||
| To put that in perspective, bigger than Mount Everest, twice the size of Mount Kilimanjaro. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| That honema was way smaller. | ||
| Yeah, so the, how do you say it? | ||
| Uma. | ||
| Umua. | ||
| Omamua. | ||
| Discovered in 2017. | ||
| This is, he came on and talked to us about that. | ||
| Was believed to be around 0.2 miles wide. | ||
| And the comet Borisov, discovered in 2019, was roughly 0.6, one kilometer wide. | ||
| So this thing is fucking huge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So previously speaking to Mail Online, Professor Lowe pointed out that its impressive speed of 130,000 miles per hour as an indication that it might be controlled by aliens. | ||
| He said it's difficult to imagine a natural process that would favor a plunge towards the inner solar system at 60 kilometers per second, he said. | ||
| An alternative is that the object targets the inner solar system by some technological design. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Hopefully they come in peace. | ||
| Well that might be the end of the earth. | ||
| Maybe that's like they realize that's when AI starts to take over and they think it's chaos. | ||
| So it's just that's when it's going to happen. | ||
| So let's just like launch a seven mile wide thing into the earth and just start all over again like the dinosaurs. | ||
| Well that you're saying it hits and then AI, our AI fights it? | ||
| No. | ||
| It wipes out. | ||
| The AI takes over and it's like this isn't going to work. | ||
| So it wipes it out. | ||
| Just like when the dinosaurs were here, the dinosaurs were too powerful and they're like, yeah, let's just fucking start from scratch. | ||
| Maybe that's how they like reset the game. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| And then so humanity is wiped out? | ||
| Everything's wiped out. | ||
| Yeah, we start fresh with new organisms. | ||
| And then they come along and do genetic engineering, just like they did with us and monkeys, and create a new version of humans. | ||
| But this time, it's a little less territorial, a little more inquisitive, a little more interested in innovation, a little less interested in dominating and controlling resources. | ||
| Because that's what fucked us. | ||
| Territorial apes get high technology and use territorial behavior to defend and acquire resources, and that creates war. | ||
| Did you see that fucking dude? | ||
| There's a dude who, this is a crazy story. | ||
| Mr. Ballin and Tom Segura was on Mr. Ballin, and Mr. Ballin explained this thing that happened. | ||
| I forget what year it was. | ||
| It's in the 70s, I think. | ||
| Okay, so this Mexican pilot was flying, and in the middle of his flying, he got confused. | ||
| He didn't know what the fuck happened. | ||
| He fell asleep, and he woke up, and he was over the ocean. | ||
| He was like, how did I get over the ocean? | ||
| This doesn't even make any sense. | ||
| And the amount of gas that was missing from his plane didn't make any sense that he was able to get this far. | ||
| And what they're saying, and there's a recording of this, is that this guy went into a trance and was channeling some alien intelligence that was explaining through this guy's voice that the human race is the only intelligent race in the universe that still uses war and still kills people and engages in large-scale conflict and has nuclear weapons and that they have to stop | ||
| doing this or that someone's going to step in. | ||
| It's a crazy story. | ||
| Play the story. | ||
| Someone's going to step in? | ||
| Could we play it? | ||
| Some of it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Just to give credit to Mr. Ballin? | ||
| Well, I have to find everything else. | ||
| Well, everybody should just go to it. | ||
| If you just tell me how to go to it, I'll just drive people to see it. | ||
| His Instagram account with Tom. | ||
| But he's got a really good YouTube channel, too. | ||
| We're getting all sorts of wild stories like this. | ||
| Yeah, but this was a great one. | ||
| And then there's an actual audio recording of this guy saying this. | ||
| I'll send you the audio recording, Jamie. | ||
| If you can't find it real quick, I forgot. | ||
| I sent it to Tom. | ||
| After I said, I saw Tom on the show. | ||
| I was like, that is fucking crazy, man. | ||
| And he's like, dude, wild. | ||
| And then I sent him this. | ||
| I said, did you know there's an actual recording that you can listen to of the guy saying this? | ||
| So if you go like halfway into it, you. | ||
| You got it? | ||
| Oh, you got it. | ||
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| So a certain distance into it, you hear the guy talking in this very bizarre monotone Spanish. | ||
| Was there a UFO? | ||
| Like, why did they show that UFO, that fake UFO? | ||
| Oh, keep me interested. | ||
| I'll be interested anyway. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| Yeah, let me hear it He is speaking, but he does not know the equipment is too primitive. | ||
| This is the only way to convey lower that a little a microphone the equipment is too primitive. | ||
| This is the only way to convey their message after almost an hour. | ||
| The beings would release the young aviator pilot from his hypnotic state and return control of the plane so that he could receive instructions. | ||
| And at the same time, he managed to land at the Acapoco airport. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| You know, that's the thing. | ||
| Like, if there was a unique event where something happened and an alien race did interact with human beings and then never again, no one would believe you. | ||
| Even if it was real. | ||
| That's the problem with like unique events. | ||
| We base reality on what we experience and what everybody else experiences on a day-to-day basis, what we have evidence of. | ||
| But if something happened that was completely unique like that, where they said, like, this is the only way we can communicate. | ||
| Their equipment is too primitive. | ||
| We'll just take over this guy's mind and have him say it. | ||
| Like, who was ever going to believe that? | ||
| That's the quote translated. | ||
| Okay, the alien message that spoke through Rafael Pacheco-Perez to the air traffic controller. | ||
| It says, he speaks because he is ordered to. | ||
| That is, it is his voice he speaks, but not of his own free will. | ||
| We use it as a microphone. | ||
| No matter who we are or where we come from, it is enough for you to know that we are beings of this universe where you belong. | ||
| Our planet is many light years away, but we are physically equal. | ||
| I repeat that all races in the universe are physically equal. | ||
| You are not alone in the universe, and there are other races that are far away from you, and we are watching you. | ||
| But he said more than that. | ||
| No, for sure. | ||
| What is the full extent of his quote? | ||
| Because he said something about you're the only race that still engages in warfare. | ||
| I want to believe it. | ||
| I want to believe it so bad. | ||
| No, I definitely think there's other life forms out there. | ||
| I dare know what really happened. | ||
| I really wish I knew. | ||
| I mean, I really wish I knew. | ||
| This guy did fall asleep while he was flying a plane, so can we really trust him? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he did wake up over the ocean. | ||
| But if he did wake up over the ocean, it doesn't make sense that he got over the ocean, if that's true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Explain that. | ||
| Like, how did he get there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What'd you do? | ||
| Did you take over the plane, move it with your spaceship? | ||
| Why'd you put him over the ocean? | ||
| So if he crashed, it wouldn't kill anybody? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why'd you do that? | ||
| Like, what is all this? | ||
| And what's the thing with the gas being gone? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I guess they, like, picked it up and took it. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We are watching you. | ||
| What else does it say? | ||
| Definite surprise. | ||
| Issued a certificate stating he was in perfect health and had not consumed any drugs. | ||
| It ruined his career and he never piloted a plane again. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| This is his first solo flight, too. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Imagine your first solo flight. | ||
| Like, I am going to pull a fucking gag on these motherfuckers. | ||
| I got an idea. | ||
| I got some action. | ||
| That was 1976? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| My problem is I want to believe that account. | ||
| That's always the problem with all these things. | ||
| I want to believe. | ||
| I want to believe so bad that I don't think about them rationally sometimes. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, these stories are all, it's like whether you trust the source or not. | ||
| But I, you know. | ||
| The universe is too big for us to be the only ones here. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| And I don't care that Mars doesn't have any water. | ||
| Maybe they don't need water. | ||
| Well, you know, they think Mars used to have a full atmosphere. | ||
| And do you know that there's structures on Mars that they've observed even recently that look like perfect squares that are huge? | ||
| There's this one that I showed to Elon. | ||
| I go, what is that? | ||
| Tell me what do you think that is? | ||
| Well, we should probably go there and look around. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, we should probably go there and look around. | ||
| And he's the guy to do it. | ||
| But what is, like, he didn't want to say what he thought it was, but I'm looking at it. | ||
| I'm like, do you think this could have been at one point in time a structure? | ||
| Because it has perfect right angles and it's a square and it's huge. | ||
| They said it's at least hundreds of meters across, but it might be miles across. | ||
| They just, it's rough estimates, but they know it's large. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| Jamie will show it to you. | ||
| But it's like a literal square. | ||
| There's a bunch of shit that's weird there. | ||
| That's like the face on Mars, but I'm not totally convinced about that. | ||
| But that one's nuts. | ||
| Like, that's kind of crazy. | ||
| Didn't that look kind of crazy? | ||
| It's on the right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's kind of crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That looks like a fucking square. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That looks like a foundation. | ||
| I mean, tell me what the fuck that is. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That does not look normal. | ||
| Those angles don't look normal at all. | ||
| That lower left-hand corner? | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| And then the fact that it's roughly a square? | ||
| I mean, I don't know if it's a square or a rectangle. | ||
| It seems like it's a little taller than it is wide. | ||
| But whatever it is, it looks like a fucking structure, man. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Well, just because we can't exist there doesn't mean other life forms can exist there. | ||
| Or other life forms used to exist there. | ||
| Like imagine if there was, like, if there's life on Earth right now today, and if Mars at one point in time had a sustainable atmosphere, like millions and millions of years ago, what if there was life on Mars? | ||
| What if we are the offspring of the life on Mars? | ||
| What if those fucking guys just realized like, hey, this place is falling apart. | ||
| Let's shoot over to Earth and reestablish. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that might be why we're so different than every other primate that's here. | ||
| I never thought about it like that. | ||
| That might be true. | ||
| I just think it's so vast and we know so little about everything. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I kind of like broaden it that way, where it's like, it's all possible. | ||
| The universe is infinite and we know very little about it. | ||
| Yeah, it's totally possible. | ||
| It's just not likely. | ||
| I mean, it seems because you haven't seen anything. | ||
| Like, it's not likely. | ||
| But we're trying to use our logical brains to figure out. | ||
| It's like, could this be possible? | ||
| It's like, it's There's so much we don't know. | ||
| And we have such a limited scope with our human minds to even comprehend stuff. | ||
| So it's like, you know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm big on the near-death experiences. | ||
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| I watch all of those. | ||
| What do you think that's all about? | ||
| Because it really puts it on the Tay, I was raised Catholic. | ||
| I'm Catholic now, but it's like, everybody has like a similar experience where they go through a tunnel and they come out and then there's a life review where it's like your whole life is played out before you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, you know, it doesn't matter if you're religious or that seems not to matter at all. | ||
| What seems to matter is like the little kindnesses that you do to people. | ||
| Like smiling at someone who's giving somebody some kind words who had a bad day. | ||
| It speaks to the thing that we're all connected. | ||
| We're all connected on this higher level. | ||
| I definitely think that's true. | ||
| I think reality is probably a lot weirder than we think it is. | ||
| And whatever happens to you after you're dead, it's very weird that people have similar stories. | ||
| Very, very weird. | ||
| They're from different countries also. | ||
| Yeah, from all over the world. | ||
| And also long before there was any social media or any public depictions of these things, people have always had very similar stories of these things happening to them. | ||
| Which makes you wonder, what is death? | ||
| And what is life? | ||
| What is consciousness? | ||
| Does it transcend? | ||
| Does it go somewhere else? | ||
| And it always has? | ||
| Is it a constant cycle? | ||
| Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like, it's got to go somewhere. | ||
| Your soul, I guess, for lack of a better term, has to go somewhere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And if you were looking at, if you were an alien being looking at the direction that the human race is going, I would imagine you would be worried. | ||
| I would imagine you would see all the chaos and guys falling in love with AI and people beating people up at jazz concerts. | ||
| You're like, this is not good. | ||
| But we don't know where we are in the timeline either. | ||
| I was like, this is going to change things and we're headed towards total destruction. | ||
| It's like, but we don't know where we are in that continuum. | ||
| It's like it could do an uptick again and we could rebound and, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like we just don't know. | ||
| If we had the right intentions, right? | ||
| Like if we had the intention of doing things designed to improve the human race versus doing things designed to only make money. | ||
| If we collectively as a group abandon the idea of just doing things only for profit and instead embrace the idea of helping the human race, complete turnaround. | ||
| We change everything. | ||
| Change the whole world. | ||
| It has to happen on a micro level though, where it's like, you know, it's the religion. | ||
| It's the religious thing of love your neighbor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's got to start on a very micro level as well. | ||
| That's probably why that stuff exists. | ||
| Probably why that exists in so many cultures is because they kind of knew that this is the general direction the human race has to go if we're going to survive. | ||
| Were you talking about religion? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And if you had like a guidance from somewhere else, from a higher power, it would probably tell you exactly what Jesus told you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's probably the message. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, the message of Jesus, whether you believe it or not, is beautiful. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, it's like love your neighbor. | ||
| It's the only way to get through what we're in now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's a good way to end this podcast, Mike. | ||
| When are you back? | ||
| Peace be with you. | ||
| Peace be with you. | ||
| And also with you. | ||
| That's how you say it, right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| And also with you. | ||
| When are you back? | ||
| Back here? | ||
| Yeah, when are you back in the club? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm going to reach out to Adam. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But thank you. | ||
| Last time I saw you, you were awesome, man. | ||
| Thank you, Mary. | ||
| I really appreciate the work and appreciate you having me on here. | ||
| This is a huge deal for me. | ||
| You have a special out, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's called Low Income White. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| That's you. | ||
| And Nate Bargatzi, my friend. | ||
| Shout out to Nate. | ||
| Insanely successful and talented. | ||
| He's giving us an awesome guy, giving me and a lot of other people under the Nate Lamb banner opportunities. | ||
| So shout out to Nate. | ||
| Shout out to Nate Lamb. | ||
| He made this. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And he's putting other comics on. | ||
| Look at your brand. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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That's a cool one. | |
| It's pretty clutch. | ||
| Look at the diamond stitching. | ||
| A lot of people online said he's wearing lipstick, but I wasn't. | ||
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What? | |
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| All the comments say lipstick. | ||
| Oh, they're just fucking with you. | ||
| You don't look like you're wearing lipstick. | ||
| But I shout out at the Zane's lab. | ||
| Shout out to Zaney's in Nashville and Nate Bargatzi and the Nate Land brand. | ||
| Thank you for having me on. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| All right, brother. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Good to see you, my friend. | ||
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Always. | |
| All right. |
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