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May 21, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2325 - Aaron Rodgers
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Joe Rogan Podcast.
Check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day.
Joe Rogan Podcast by night.
All day.
joe rogan
Which start with?
Chew?
aaron rodgers
Kodiak.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
That's rough.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
aaron rodgers
But these are much better now.
joe rogan
Yeah, these are good.
These loose, these are good.
I like these too.
These are athletic nicotines.
These are threes.
These are like them.
They don't fuck you up.
They're mild.
aaron rodgers
I wonder, though, do you wonder at all...
There's a lot of these studies coming out now about how good nicotine is for you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Where'd that come from?
aaron rodgers
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, all these nicotine pouches are selling like crazy.
aaron rodgers
It's like we're in the 1950s.
joe rogan
These are good smoking when you're pregnant.
aaron rodgers
Pregnant women.
You know, if you're sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think there's real benefit to nicotine because that's been proven for a long time.
It's just always been the delivery method that's the problem.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, the Kodiaks and the other ones.
There's a lot of other stuff in there that's not great for you.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
What is the one that has, like, actual glass in it?
aaron rodgers
Probably Kodiak or Grizzly, one of those two.
Apologies if that's wrong to those companies.
joe rogan
Yeah, apologies to any company that we talk about.
People will fucking buy it anyway.
They're like, oh, good glass in it, good.
Makes it better.
aaron rodgers
Cuts your lip, gets it in there quicker.
joe rogan
I think that's the idea.
There's something abrasive in one of them that allows the nicotine to get into your bloodstream quicker.
aaron rodgers
You sure there's just one of them?
I feel like it's a few of them.
joe rogan
See if you can find anything out about that.
aaron rodgers
But these are hot right now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
I mean, not in California, because you can't get anything that's flavored.
joe rogan
Nothing flavored.
Fucking, what a shithole.
God, I'm so glad I left that fucking place.
Is there fiberglass in tobacco?
Fiberglass?
aaron rodgers
It's a complete mist.
joe rogan
Okay.
No evidence for this, although it gets repeated by many anti-ST.
What's ST?
aaron rodgers
Smokeless tobacco.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
We've heard the claim that fiberglass creates little cuts that allow absorption.
Oh, so it's just bullshit.
Well, that's good.
That's good to know.
That would be horrible.
aaron rodgers
The internet says it must be true.
joe rogan
It must be.
Yeah.
ChatGPT's never wrong.
We were talking about this lady that got arrested and she was bringing in frog embryos and they're trying to deport her to Russia.
Illegally bringing in frogs.
She's a researcher.
Research, I guess?
jamie vernon
This is a different article than the one you sent me.
This is the one from April I found that still talks about...
Her arrest and everything.
joe rogan
Okay, so she is also working on some cancer detection technology?
jamie vernon
This article says that no one can fully unlock the data's potential except her.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
And that's why they want to lock her up.
It can't just be frogs.
She's working for Harvard, and she's got frog embryos that are illegally being brought back to the United States.
jamie vernon
Something I was reading said, this generally is a fine, sometimes maybe a couple months of detention, but she's also asking to not be deported back to Russia.
She wants to go to France, and that's part of the issue, too.
unidentified
Oh, it might be a thing where Putin's like, oh, she's an anti-protested against the war in Ukraine.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
There's a lot going on.
unidentified
You have a woman that we are very interested in, and we put frogs in her backpack.
You will find her with these frogs, and then you will send her back to us.
joe rogan
We have to talk to her.
And they probably don't want to talk to her unless she...
If she's been locked up since February for frogs?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, in California, you fucking murder somebody.
They let you right back out.
Yeah.
Pull a knife on a cop, they'll let you right back out.
aaron rodgers
I think I'm going to get out.
joe rogan
Yeah?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where you at now?
aaron rodgers
I'm still there.
joe rogan
What part?
aaron rodgers
I'm in Malibu.
joe rogan
Yeah, get the fuck out of there.
aaron rodgers
But Malibu is...
joe rogan
It's nice.
aaron rodgers
We're not in the shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's like having a beautiful house in the ghetto.
It's like, yeah, it's nice where you're at.
It's nice.
Beautiful ocean that's filled with toxic pollutants now.
aaron rodgers
That's true.
joe rogan
I'm biased.
I think right here.
I like Texas.
This is the last stand.
This is the Alamo.
aaron rodgers
It's pretty impressive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Just how they've been able to disdain and, you know, what happened with COVID.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's been a few states that held the line during COVID and it just shows you the importance of good government.
Or just government that allows people to just be free and operate the way they'd like to.
aaron rodgers
I know there's a lot of Texans who wanted to...
Keep the California out of Texas if he moved here.
joe rogan
That's a good idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because a lot of these retards are coming here with some of the same ideas that they left with.
Well, we've got to get away from these people, but why is everyone here voting red?
You shouldn't be voting red.
You need to be voting blue.
There's, like, cult members.
There's, like, Democrat cult members.
There's reasonable people.
aaron rodgers
Blue no matter who, but...
joe rogan
That's so goofy.
Red till I'm dead.
All that shit's goofy.
aaron rodgers
Look at the beautiful cities that we used to have in California.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
unidentified
I used to love L.A. I used to love it.
joe rogan
Every time I went back there, I'd be like, I'm back.
When I'd travel on the road, I'd be like, thank God I'm back in L.A. It's always sunny.
People are cool.
It's easy going.
And then COVID, just a big reality smack of how important government is.
aaron rodgers
You know what I've seen recently that makes me laugh?
People driving Teslas, but they've either removed the emblem on the back or they have a sticker that says like an anti-Musk Tesla group or something.
joe rogan
I bought this before Elon went crazy.
aaron rodgers
I'd say 70% of them are wearing a mask driving still.
joe rogan
I think most of them are just scared their car's going to get fucked up if they leave it somewhere.
aaron rodgers
No, I think so too.
joe rogan
I think about that when I park my Tesla.
I think about that.
aaron rodgers
Even in Texas though?
I feel like it's happening in California.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of kooky liberals out here.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
I get side-eye from people out here.
aaron rodgers
God, they love the...
The Tesla before, right?
joe rogan
They used to love it.
aaron rodgers
Kind of like The View and Trump.
joe rogan
Well, it's also, there's a lot of, you know, it's the USAID stuff, really.
It's hard to say.
I had Amanda Knox on here yesterday, and she was talking about this program that was an innocence program where they're trying to release wrongly accused people, and that it got defunded.
And I said, well, was there anything...
Inappropriate about what they were doing.
The unfortunate reality of having conversations with Elon about this, both publicly and privately, there's a lot of stuff that looks good on the outside.
And then you find out you have this amazing slush fund.
You have fucking billions of dollars that's being allocated towards this one particular organization.
People are extracting enormous salaries.
And then very little of it is actually going.
So this is a part of the problem with these things.
Like, oh, we lost funding.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's bad.
You definitely want to have funding to help innocent people get out of jail.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, but what the fuck were you doing?
joe rogan
Where's all the money going?
I don't know.
But I know a lot of them.
I know that they spent $251 million on transgender animal studies.
Like, there's some wild money that's being thrown around.
They spent $2 million giving cocaine to dogs.
Super important to find out.
aaron rodgers
I really wanted to see the episodes of the $20 million they spent on the Sesame Street in Iraq.
Was Oscar still a villain or was it Big Bird?
joe rogan
Let's count the gays as we throw them off the roof.
unidentified
One!
joe rogan
I mean, $21 million.
aaron rodgers
But here's the fucking common sense.
Like, when people hear that, just because it's fucking Elon and some 20-year-olds, they can't go, oh, yeah, I'm glad you did that.
That's a waste of my money.
joe rogan
There was a study that was done recently that showed that 96% of all the stories that mainstream media prints about Elon are negative.
96%.
Meanwhile, the guy saved those fucking people trapped up in space.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You didn't hear a peep about that.
aaron rodgers
And the shit he does when there's natural disasters with the Starlink.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He's revolutionizing space travel, revolutionizing satellite internet capabilities and the availability all over the world.
It's crazy.
It's really crazy.
aaron rodgers
And saving billions of dollars of your tax money from going to fucking fun.
Stupid-ass programs all over the world.
unidentified
It's not just stupid-ass programs.
joe rogan
Some of it is like, you don't even know where it went.
aaron rodgers
It's corruption, too.
joe rogan
He said that some of the money, that there was billions of dollars that was written out with no receipts at all.
He said if this was a private company, or excuse me, a public company, they would be delisted and all the executives would be thrown in prison.
But in the government, it's just like standard practice.
aaron rodgers
How come nobody has gone to prison?
That's one of my main questions for Trump and the administration.
joe rogan
It's a good question.
aaron rodgers
What's going on?
joe rogan
Well, the administration's only 100 days old, right?
Or 130 or whatever the fuck it is.
I think it takes a while to even find out what the fuck happened.
I don't know.
You know, I've had conversations with people about it and it's like, Jesus, like just trying to get the documents, like when they're trying to get the Epstein files, like the state of New York, one of the district attorneys was hiding, they were hiding documents that have forced them to give documents.
I think there's so many fucking powerful people that are on those lists.
There's so many powerful people that went and partied.
aaron rodgers
Air quotes.
joe rogan
Air quotes.
Partied.
And how many of them went to the Diddy parties?
Have you been paying attention to the trial?
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Trials.
joe rogan
Wild!
Wild!
aaron rodgers
Why don't they air it the same way they aired the coverage that Johnny Depp got?
joe rogan
I know.
Why don't they?
I don't know.
They should.
The ratings would be amazing.
aaron rodgers
Unreal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, what are you doing?
Why wouldn't you air that?
aaron rodgers
What's going to happen, though, you think?
joe rogan
Well, Diddy's going to be in jail for the rest of his life.
I think he's probably going to get hit up.
aaron rodgers
Do you think he's going to sing, though?
joe rogan
I don't even think it matters.
I mean...
A lot of it is...
aaron rodgers
But then it's just another Epstein.
It's another Ghislaine Maxwell.
Where somebody gets indicted and nobody else...
Indicted for trafficking kids to...
joe rogan
Right.
To no one.
Right.
That's the crazy thing about Ghislaine, right?
She's in prison for sex trafficking.
To who?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm mature.
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
There's a lot of people that want some heads to roll.
joe rogan
Well, the Diddy thing has just started.
So we'll see.
Because apparently there's...
Tremendous amount of video that they have.
But we've also heard that about the Epstein.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, and what are they going to do?
How much is it going to get out?
joe rogan
James O 'Keefe just released video of Epstein's library, right?
aaron rodgers
I didn't see that.
I know he's been holding on to something and there's been fear about him getting taken out and Alex has some sort of kill switch or something.
I don't know.
Yeah, but then he was like DJing.
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
A lot of it is theatrics.
O 'Keefe is so...
aaron rodgers
I mean, he was...
His undercover videos were amazing.
joe rogan
Incredible.
aaron rodgers
And then he got ousted at Project Veritas, right?
joe rogan
I wonder what happened there.
I'd like to know what the story there is, because there's no official story of why he got ousted.
aaron rodgers
Has he not...
He hasn't gone anywhere.
He's under some gag order, maybe?
joe rogan
I would imagine there's some sort of an NDA or something.
Otherwise, why...
The guy who releases everything, why wouldn't he release that if he can?
You know?
aaron rodgers
But his videos are mostly, like, gay men meeting up.
unidentified
Yes!
aaron rodgers
The one guy is kind of big dick and, you know, oh, I can tell you this, you know.
joe rogan
Yes.
aaron rodgers
And has no idea.
Oh, by the way, everything you just said is recorded.
joe rogan
It's always chatting gay guys.
Here it goes in O 'Keefe's Twitter.
Inside Epstein's library, O 'Keefe releases never-before-seen footage with bizarre statues and cryptic messages left by Epstein from inside Epstein's.
Island Library.
By the way, what does that mean?
If you look in this room, bizarre statues.
aaron rodgers
Power.
Deception.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
He's got a diagram.
aaron rodgers
Music.
joe rogan
All the things he's trying to do.
What is all that?
Power.
Deception.
Plants?
Does that say plants?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder what that means.
Plants like planting people inside organizations.
Is that what that means?
aaron rodgers
What's in the bottom here?
Does it say...
jamie vernon
Something in France.
aaron rodgers
Drunk brain?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
Time, day, drink, I don't know.
joe rogan
Dank brain?
aaron rodgers
Is that what that says?
Intellectual, political, something.
joe rogan
Music, and what is the other one next to music?
B, what is that?
jamie vernon
I'm going to see if anybody has deciphered this.
joe rogan
When he puts this big O 'Keefe over it, it kind of obscures the letters.
aaron rodgers
Okay, what else is weird in this, though?
What are we even looking at?
joe rogan
Let's play it.
He's got some weird statues.
Fucking, I got a lot of weird statues.
You know, what does that mean?
Nice place.
You know, we were talking about buying the island at one point in time.
aaron rodgers
I would have gone in.
I was talking to Jamie.
He needs some investors.
joe rogan
You know the fucking headlines?
Aaron Rodgers and Joe Rogan buy the island.
We were talking about putting...
aaron rodgers
As is, though.
As is.
joe rogan
As is, 100%.
We were talking about putting up a podcast studio in the fucking...
In the big temple?
aaron rodgers
Oh, God.
joe rogan
The temple that's the Israeli flag?
jamie vernon
What's this mirror in face?
joe rogan
You know the temple that's the colors of the Israeli flag?
You know about that, right?
aaron rodgers
I didn't know that, no.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, here it goes.
O 'Keefe is showing power.
jamie vernon
Oh, they're trying to show that he...
That's his handwriting, I guess.
joe rogan
Okay.
aaron rodgers
Boys?
joe rogan
Boys?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't...
Maybe he says what it says.
joe rogan
Were there...
unidentified
Dank brain among others.
jamie vernon
All right, I guess you're right.
joe rogan
Dank brain.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay.
aaron rodgers
Mirror in face.
joe rogan
Dank brain.
Does dank brain mean you're high as fuck?
It must be.
Right?
That means they gave you a super edible.
They gave you one of them Joey Diaz edibles.
jamie vernon
Maybe it's a project name, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
That's probably it.
jamie vernon
Project Dank brain.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
That's probably it.
What is that other one?
Mirror in face?
Is that what it says?
jamie vernon
Truth, something else.
joe rogan
Yeah, shitty fucking handwriting for an evil villain.
jamie vernon
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Very weird stuff.
Let me show them.
jamie vernon
Actually, I want one more.
Someone wrote it out in a little more clear writing.
joe rogan
Okay, plants, truth, myth, reality, power, deception.
What do you mean by plants?
Appears, music, brain, rhythm, mimic, time delay, deception.
It says dark brain?
I thought that was an N. I don't think that guy's correct.
jamie vernon
It could be dank brain or dark brain.
joe rogan
Look at that other image, though.
aaron rodgers
I like dank brain better.
joe rogan
It looks like an N to me.
Yeah, that looks like N. That doesn't look like dark.
That looks like dank brain.
That's an N. So I'm already skeptical.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a fucking psy-op, bro.
joe rogan
It's a whole bunch of psy-ops.
Show them the image of the temple that was on the island.
That was going to be JRE Podcast Studio.
Number two.
aaron rodgers
Nice.
We could have done this here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I was thinking about it, but I was like, you know what?
That's a good way to die.
They're not going to let me buy that fucking place.
Look at it.
aaron rodgers
Oh, well, you know where that is, too, right?
It's a similar image to that, right?
joe rogan
No.
aaron rodgers
I know Jamie does.
joe rogan
What is it?
aaron rodgers
It's on the set of a famous talk show that's now not on anymore.
joe rogan
Oh, Ellen?
Was that Ellen?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
aaron rodgers
Just look at the temple and then look at the...
unidentified
Let me see Ellen's background.
joe rogan
What?
Oh, similar.
That looks like a building, though.
Yeah, sure.
Is that a building in L.A.?
That might be a building in L.A. Right, but I mean, it's supposed to be a background of...
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
It's strange to use the same.
joe rogan
It is, but it's...
You know, I mean, it's whatever.
I'm not that impressed with that.
That could just be coincidental.
There's a lot of people...
aaron rodgers
Ask Alex about that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he'll get...
Well, it's a long-standing tradition to put Israeli flags secretly in everything.
aaron rodgers
That's so fucking good.
joe rogan
Did you see that they did this thing recently where they uncovered the fact that Israel had kiosks in malls?
And Israeli intelligence, they were gathering intelligence, but with these drone kiosks that they were selling in malls?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like these little propeller drones?
Let me see if I can find it.
I know I sent it to some friends.
Did you find it, Jimmy?
Right away?
Yeah.
Charged U.S. Running Illegal Mall Kiosk Network.
How fucking weird is this?
Accused of arranging for Israelis to arrive in the country with tourist visas for the purpose of illicit employment and sales, and they were gathering information.
The whole thing was gathering information.
Israelis have been charged U.S. visa fraud, allegedly running an illegal employment scheme in the country, which helped other Israelis obtain entry permits under false pretenses for the purpose of illegal employment.
You know, I was chatting back and forth with Ari.
I sent this to him.
aaron rodgers
What did he say?
joe rogan
He's like, imagine being pwned, you know, PWN, by a country that has like 7 million people in it.
unidentified
It's like they've been fucking, they've been running things for so long.
joe rogan
It's kind of amazing.
aaron rodgers
It's impressive.
joe rogan
They're very impressive.
I mean, they developed Pegasus.
The whole reason why every time I text, I assume the government is reading everything I write is because they can.
They can get into your signal.
Like, all these encrypted apps that people think that they're, like, you're gonna buy drugs and fucking sell guns and shit.
No, no.
aaron rodgers
No.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
jamie vernon
Was this part of the story true?
joe rogan
What is this?
Assad uses mall kiosks in the U.S.'s front companies while on intelligence operations.
Yeah, this is it.
Attorney Jessica Al-Aber found dead in her home after uncovering Israelis illegally entered the U.S. to work at mall kiosks.
She found dead in her home.
Google that.
Jesus.
aaron rodgers
Probably suicide.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Shot herself in the head twice.
aaron rodgers
What happens over there, you think?
jamie vernon
Epilepsy, though.
joe rogan
Epilepsy.
Died in her sleep.
unidentified
Okay.
aaron rodgers
She was a young one.
joe rogan
She was like 43. Could be coincidence.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, I read about this.
joe rogan
Maybe she got that third booster.
We're expecting more information.
When was this?
What time was this?
When did this happen?
March.
March.
Similar.
Recently.
Expect more information from the medical examiner.
aaron rodgers
Speaking of boosters, why didn't Bobby just come out and take a net off the old schedule?
Maybe start with kids.
joe rogan
They did start with kids.
It's removed now.
aaron rodgers
Is it?
Since when?
joe rogan
Real recently, like within the last day or two.
They pulled it from the recommendations of the requirements.
Giving it to kids is fucking insane.
It's fucking insane.
COVID's not a danger to kids.
It's super dangerous for kids.
There's a lot of evidence for that now.
There's the fact that they've been able to obscure all the vaccine deaths.
I know there was...
Where was it in Florida?
Where they were pointing...
They're making this accusation that as many as 470,000 people died from the vaccine.
Let's see if you can find that.
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aaron rodgers
What is it?
The Surgeon General down in Florida has been pretty rock solid.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's rock solid.
aaron rodgers
Black dude, he was on TV a bunch.
I liked him a lot.
Every time he spoke, it was like, yeah, that makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's just money, man.
It's literal sacrifice of human lives for money.
aaron rodgers
But same thing, when is any of those people going to be held accountable?
joe rogan
I don't know.
aaron rodgers
Never?
Look at everything that's happened in the last 20 years.
Financial crisis happens.
You know, insider trading, fucking the market on purpose.
No, no heads roll.
In fact, they actually get put into Obama's cabinet, many of them.
That great documentary.
joe rogan
You mean the 2008 thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think they did that on purpose?
They tanked the market on purpose?
Or do you think it was just what they did was ultimately going to tank the market?
aaron rodgers
I think there's a lot of coincidences.
joe rogan
A little bit.
A little bit coincidences.
A little coincidences.
aaron rodgers
A lot of coincidences.
No, but I'm just saying no one ever gets held accountable.
No one gets held accountable.
What's going on with COVID?
No one's going to be held accountable.
Was Dr. Fauci going to be held accountable for lying about gain-of-function research?
joe rogan
Well, he could be held accountable for perjury, I believe.
I don't believe they can get him for the gain-of-function research.
I don't think they can get him.
aaron rodgers
But he lied on the stand when Rand Paul was interviewed.
joe rogan
I think they'd get him for that.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you can, I don't know, but a blanket pardon that goes back to when gain-of-function was illegal.
During the Obama administration is a little suspicious.
aaron rodgers
It was really when they moved it out of North Carolina to Wuhan.
joe rogan
A little suspicious.
aaron rodgers
Nice timing there.
Why 2014, I wonder?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that was when, I mean, I think during the Obama administration, Obama wisely was like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
Like, what's the benefit of that?
If you're creating more contagious diseases and you don't have cures, like, what the fuck are you doing?
It's, you know...
Bobby thinks it's all weapons.
He thinks it's biological weapons, which completely makes sense.
aaron rodgers
Did you see what Nicole Shannon said recently about Bobby?
joe rogan
No.
aaron rodgers
She said she's a little confused at what kind of some of the stuff he's been saying and doing lately, and maybe he's got somebody who's controlling him.
joe rogan
Well, isn't it that one guy that said that Bobby has to check with him on everything that happens?
aaron rodgers
What guy?
joe rogan
There's too many.
Fucking people.
I know I save these.
I save everything.
I have these bookmarks that are just fucking completely ridiculous.
And if somebody finds me and I'm dead, they're going to be like, what was wrong with him?
You're a little obsessed.
aaron rodgers
While you're looking for this, Jamie, I'm sure you've probably seen some of this.
When you're on Instagram, sometimes you'll come across videos.
And the voice you recognize right away, but you know that person didn't say it.
Have you seen these?
Oh, yeah.
Your voice is on it a bunch.
I first got alerted to it when John Reeves, our buddy John from Alaska, I heard his voice on some UFO video.
joe rogan
Yep.
aaron rodgers
I was like, John, what the fuck did you...
unidentified
He's like, no.
joe rogan
No, he's not doing any of it.
aaron rodgers
I've heard my voice on stuff, too, but I heard your voices a lot.
How the fuck they do this stuff?
joe rogan
It's real easy now.
It's crazy.
What I see a lot of is me selling stuff that I'm not really selling.
There's a lot of that.
There's a lot of that.
A lot of me selling shit that I'm not really selling.
aaron rodgers
You don't have to peddle in new products?
joe rogan
No.
It's like businesses and shit that I'm not really interested in.
aaron rodgers
Was this the pad that Zahi was using?
Right here?
joe rogan
This one?
Maybe.
That might have been the worst podcast I've ever done.
But maybe a good one, too.
Just to see, okay, this is the guy, this is this closed-minded fellow that's been in charge of gatekeeping all the knowledge about Egypt.
aaron rodgers
And still standing on the same ideas, even after this LIDAR comes out.
joe rogan
Yeah, tomography, whatever it is.
Yeah, whatever it is.
That stuff's fascinating because I've been, even after that podcast, I've been...
Watching more videos for those Italian scientists describing it.
They've used it to...
This is one of the things that I brought up.
One of the temples that they scanned with this was very accurate.
And he's like, "But this was only 50 feet down." Okay, right, but it works.
Like, at 50 feet down, you get an accurate representation of what's inside there.
And he was the one, Zahi, supposedly.
You know, discovered it.
But he's discovered everything, basically.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
So how do you...
aaron rodgers
Genius.
joe rogan
He's the best.
aaron rodgers
But the good thing is that Graham can go back to Egypt now.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
So they patched up something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that was one of the reasons why Zahi came on.
aaron rodgers
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Because Graham talked to Zahi and said, Zahi wants to do this.
We're friends now.
I was like, bring him in.
Let's go.
unidentified
That's good.
joe rogan
Bring him in.
I'll talk to him.
I thought it would probably...
aaron rodgers
Did he invite you to Egypt?
unidentified
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
And what'd you say?
Yeah?
joe rogan
If I'm going, I'm going with Graham.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
I told Graham I wanted him to take me a few years ago.
He said, I can't go.
Don't kill me.
So next thing you know, I see Graham's taking people to Egypt.
I said, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Well, that's nice.
It's nice that they patched it up.
aaron rodgers
I went there last July.
joe rogan
Did you?
aaron rodgers
Sorry, June.
joe rogan
How was it?
aaron rodgers
Incredible.
Yeah, it was incredible.
joe rogan
Did you walk away thinking immediately, there's a lot we don't know?
aaron rodgers
100%.
And what they tell you is complete bullshit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I have a friend who went there and the archaeologist that showed him it said this is complete bullshit.
Like the narrative is complete bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He said the scale of it and the technology involved in construction is beyond our current understanding of how to do this.
aaron rodgers
And it's not just the pyramids and the Sphinx, the other temples.
Or magnificent.
joe rogan
Not only that, there's probably a bunch of shit under the ground.
aaron rodgers
I know.
That's what I wanted to go see.
But the cool thing was the first temple I went in was what I'd seen on Ancient Aliens, where at the very top of the temple you have one of the most famous hieroglyphs, which has a spaceship, a helicopter, and a submarine up there.
As clear as you can possibly imagine.
joe rogan
Show that.
aaron rodgers
What the fuck is that?
How in the...
What is that?
Explain that, please.
Because that looks like a spaceship.
That looks like a submarine, and that 100% looks like a helicopter.
joe rogan
So weird.
Egypt is the weirdest place on Earth.
It really is.
aaron rodgers
But that's why it needs to be...
What the hell's underneath it?
joe rogan
Well, I think...
That one.
aaron rodgers
That one right there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, come on.
aaron rodgers
I mean, what are we talking about?
joe rogan
Come on.
That's so crazy.
aaron rodgers
That's a spaceship or a fighter jet.
joe rogan
Some kind of a...
aaron rodgers
That's a submarine.
joe rogan
It looks like a yacht.
It looks like one of them old yachts that they keep getting...
But that's a helicopter.
It looks like a helicopter to me.
It looks just like a helicopter.
If it's not a helicopter, what a goddamn coincidence.
And, you know, there's a bunch of weird stuff there.
A bunch of weird images.
And how about that one plane that they found that was inside?
They found, like, a wooden plane that was inside one of the chambers?
aaron rodgers
Totally normal.
They're just buried there.
joe rogan
That was the other thing that Zahi was unwilling to entertain, was this king's list, this Zeptechie king's list that goes back 30,000 plus years.
They all want to pretend that that's a myth, that all the other hieroglyphs are legitimately documenting the history of the region, but when it gets past the narrative, these 30,000 year old kings, that place has probably been there for a long fucking time.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, probably hundreds of thousands of years.
joe rogan
Which is so crazy.
aaron rodgers
And it's probably built on other stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's the other thing about the base of the pyramids.
It's like you have to realize there's a base there.
Before they put the pyramids up, they put this insane base.
And if what they're saying is accurate with these readings, that there's a structure that goes under the ground two kilometers, like...
aaron rodgers
Yeah, what is that?
joe rogan
If they can find that, then you have to throw everything out the window.
aaron rodgers
But aren't you with me?
Like, why are we not interested in that?
joe rogan
Well, we are.
aaron rodgers
But why is modern archaeology not going, yeah, let's fucking figure this shit out.
joe rogan
Because modern archaeology forever has been saying that we have the answers.
That we have the timeline.
We know when Khufu built this.
We know when Khafre built this.
We know who did this.
And they're not correct.
It's just, it's not accurate.
It's too weird.
There's no way you have all the information.
Also, where did everybody go?
Like, there's people living there, but it's clearly not the same civilization.
So what happened to this insane civilization?
If there wasn't a collapse of society at an immense level, if there wasn't some sort of a civilization-destroying event, then where did everybody...
Yeah, what happened?
aaron rodgers
How about this idea?
We got a new pope.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
aaron rodgers
He's from the States.
joe rogan
From Chicago.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Let's open up the Library of the Vatican.
joe rogan
Good luck.
Good luck doing that.
Have you been?
Have you been to the Vatican?
aaron rodgers
I've been to the Vatican, yeah.
joe rogan
That's wild, right?
You're like, what did you guys do?
Where'd you get all this shit?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you're walking through it, you're like, what?
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
And the weird tapestries where you stand on one side, it looks like this, and the other side looks like that.
joe rogan
Insane art.
Like, the craziest.
But it's almost like a crazy person's house.
Well, they have so much art, almost like the studio.
We have so much art, it's stacked up everywhere, except it's worth billions of dollars.
aaron rodgers
I was laughing, because didn't J.D. Vance get in trouble for pictures in the Sistine Chapel or something?
Did he?
What's the Sistine Chapel?
And I think he did.
And you know you're not supposed to take pictures.
And I remember going in there, and they told you, like, put your phone away.
And I'm literally in there, trying to be quiet and everything.
And everybody around me is loud.
They got their camera out.
They take their photos and shit.
joe rogan
A photo of J.D. Vance inside Sistine Chapel sparks backlash.
aaron rodgers
Everybody around me when I was there was taking pictures.
joe rogan
It is forbidden to take photographs or films with any type of electronic equipment inside the Sistine Chapel, but everybody's doing that.
I have photos.
aaron rodgers
It wasn't in 2015.
It wasn't when I went either.
joe rogan
Well, I went in, I think, 2018 or 2019, and we took a bunch of photos.
The photo was taken by an official White House photographer.
And there's precedent for political figures being photographed inside.
aaron rodgers
The whole thing is weird.
Vatican, Vatican City.
Who guards the Vatican?
Why is it the Swiss Guard?
joe rogan
It's a country.
aaron rodgers
It's a country.
joe rogan
Nobody gets extradited from that when they're accused of crimes against humanity, like Ratzinger.
aaron rodgers
Who's Ratzinger?
joe rogan
He was the Pope that had to step down because he was one of the guys that was moving people.
aaron rodgers
Oh, yeah, from like the spotlight.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was one of those guys that was when they would catch someone molesting kids, he'd move them to another place where one guy molested 100 deaf kids.
There's a whole documentary about it.
He just looked creepy.
aaron rodgers
He looks super creepy.
joe rogan
But there's also like one of the buildings that the Vatican owns is there's a gay nightclub.
In the building?
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
Yeah, like some gay sex club.
aaron rodgers
No way.
joe rogan
I know it's weird.
They probably didn't know.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Probably thought it was a prayer center.
They were feeding hungry people or something.
Feeding some hungry butts.
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
*laughter*
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just crazy how these elite people in power, before the internet, they were just doing stuff.
They had complete control of the media, and they were just doing whatever they wanted to do, and everything was in secret, and they had these little, you know, fucking meetings, like skull and bone types meetings, where they'd all wear cloaks and shit and go to Bohemian Grove, and all that.
aaron rodgers
Is that shit not happening anymore?
joe rogan
I think Bohemian Grow is very toned down now.
I think they use it now for meetings and stuff.
aaron rodgers
Thanks, Alex Jones.
joe rogan
People get together.
Yeah, Alex and John Ronson fucked it up for everybody.
But I know a bunch of people have been.
Kid Rock went.
He told me he went.
aaron rodgers
There's a feeder group to it.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
aaron rodgers
There's a feeder group to the main group, yeah.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
aaron rodgers
It means they invite entertainers and different people.
joe rogan
Oh, so they say nice things.
aaron rodgers
Well, then they figure out who they can hand select for the main group.
joe rogan
I got invited.
aaron rodgers
I did, too.
unidentified
I'm not gonna go, no fucking way.
joe rogan
No fucking way.
I remember what Nixon said about it back in the day.
aaron rodgers
The faggiest thing I've ever seen.
joe rogan
These guys all got together when they knew no one was around.
aaron rodgers
Did we talk last time about the Nixon...
What's the Jackie Gleason story?
joe rogan
Yes.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, that's a wild story.
joe rogan
It's my favorite.
Of all the UFO stories, that's my favorite because it's plausible.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, Nixon and Jackie were buddies.
You know, if you're buddies with a guy and he likes to drink, and the two of you are playing golf and drinking, he's like, you want to see some shit?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I would do.
If I was the president, I was friends with Jackie Gleason.
aaron rodgers
Bet him.
All right.
You win, you know, fund your campaign.
I win.
You show me some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
Play a round of golf.
I want to see Area 51. If they brought you, would you open your mouth?
They said, Aaron, we're going to take you, but you got to just keep this on a DL.
aaron rodgers
I think so.
joe rogan
I think so, too.
aaron rodgers
I want to see some shit.
joe rogan
Here's the thing.
aaron rodgers
The remote viewing stuff in Area 51 is pretty wild, though.
People have talked about it, and you had a person talking about remote viewing recently, but how it's guarded by...
I mean, the CIA's been doing it forever.
Finally, some of that is declassified, but they have their remote viewing guards who guard...
Secret places like that, especially Area 51 is pretty wild.
joe rogan
They're remote viewing while they're guards?
aaron rodgers
They have guards whose role is your remote viewing guard.
unidentified
Whoa.
aaron rodgers
So their duty is they go into their astral bodies and guard the facility.
joe rogan
What does that entail?
Like, what are they guarding it from?
aaron rodgers
From other astral viewers who try and get in there.
joe rogan
What?
Like, you block them?
aaron rodgers
There's been a lot of people online who've talked about this.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of people online who talk about a lot of things, though, unfortunately.
I'm open-minded with this remote viewing stuff because the Hal Puthoff stuff was fascinating when he was describing it, like how accurate it had been.
When there was that crashed jet from Russia that they were trying to recover and they found it within a couple mile radius.
They were able to recover it before Russia was.
It's pretty wild.
If that's a real ability that people have.
aaron rodgers
You think it's bullshit?
joe rogan
No.
No, I don't think it's bullshit.
I think they spent too much money on it, and they researched it for too long for it to be total bullshit.
And how put off was very compelling.
I've never seen it in action, though.
So I've, you know, remain...
aaron rodgers
You've never seen what?
Somebody...
joe rogan
Remote view.
aaron rodgers
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean...
aaron rodgers
You've got to practice.
joe rogan
I would like to know.
I mean, imagine if someone could show you how to do it, and you could do it.
aaron rodgers
That'd be incredible.
I'd love to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Where would you go with it?
aaron rodgers
Area 51?
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
If you could time remote view, I'd go right into when Bob Lazar was working there.
Like, show me.
aaron rodgers
I'd go Roswell 1947.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's a big one.
Yeah, there's a lot of those, man.
aaron rodgers
We were talking off camera about that element.
joe rogan
115?
aaron rodgers
115.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
How long do you think it is?
Because one thing I think about is if you think, you know, Our parents' age, right?
Like what they lived through technological and like all the advances since 50s, 60s and stuff to now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Fast forward another 30, 40 years for us.
Like at what point does some of this technology really come out?
The anti-gravity stuff, the disclosure, the UFOs, the...
joe rogan
It's a good question.
What Hal Puthoff said was that during the Bush administration...
They put together a panel of scientists and experts, and they gave them a task.
The task was compile a list of things that would be disrupted by disclosure.
They said, if we disclose that we have recovered, crashed vehicles of non-human intelligence and biological remains, what would be the implications?
And so they had a list of pros, things that would be disrupted.
And then things that we would benefit from.
And they put a numerical value to each one of them.
And it was overwhelming by every one of them that it would be overall negative.
And so they decided not to disclose.
aaron rodgers
What was on the con side besides religion?
Because I know religion is a big part of it.
joe rogan
Religion was a big part of it.
Government.
Why would anybody believe that we have control over anything if there are some super intelligent beings from some...
Unknown realm, whether it's another planet or another dimension, that have technology far beyond our comprehension.
And then there's the religious aspect, which gets really weird that Lazar talked about, where there's this immense folder that he encountered that has to do with religion, that has to do with how aliens created these religions in order to protect what they say human beings are here for, that we're containers.
Of what?
And he said, I don't know.
They referred to us as containers.
And the religion was designed to sort of keep the peace.
Or to keep some sort of a moral structure.
aaron rodgers
And the idea is if we had this disclosure and this information that the moral structure and the moral fabric of society would disintegrate?
joe rogan
It would crumble.
Because we wouldn't be able to control people at all.
If we all knew that there was something beyond our comprehension that's here all the time.
They can hide in plain sight that lives in the ocean.
They have bases in the ocean.
They can mask their appearance and fly at insane rates of speed and just appear in places.
And they essentially have complete control over everything that goes on on Earth.
We would lose all of our faith in any sort of governmental institution because these are just fools.
Well, they think it's bad.
You know, to have this power and all of a sudden it just gets taken away voluntarily by you.
Like, if they could go back in time and stop the internet, don't you think they would?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think they had any idea what the internet was going to be when they released it.
They're probably like, what could be the harm of letting people get on AOL?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You've got mail.
aaron rodgers
They're going to be tired from the dial-up.
It's going to take too long.
People are going to lose interest.
joe rogan
Nobody had any idea that you were going to be carrying 5G data in your phone, in your pocket, that's capable of sending video all over the world instantaneously.
And then social media, where you could share that information and people would upload it to thousands of other places instantaneously.
You have no control over information anymore.
Before, they just have total control of the distribution of any information.
They had complete control of propaganda.
aaron rodgers
And they don't now?
joe rogan
No.
No, they don't.
aaron rodgers
They don't have total control, but they have control.
joe rogan
We're talking.
They don't have total control.
We're talking.
aaron rodgers
They don't have total control, but they have total viewing access.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, that's the weird thing about the UFO stuff, right?
Because there's two problems with disclosure.
One of the problems is...
These people who were involved in these programs had to have lied to Congress.
There's misappropriation of funds.
They had to get money in some sort of a way, and they got this money through some sort of a misappropriation of funds, and that is highly illegal.
So there has to be...
This is that Age of Disclosure documentary.
I don't know if you saw it.
It hasn't come out yet, but they had a screening at South by Southwest.
Jamie and I saw it.
It's really good.
It's really incredible.
But it's all people talking about what they know, what they've seen, and what the problems are.
unidentified
What kind of people?
aaron rodgers
Is Bob one of the guys?
joe rogan
Bob's not one of the guys.
But Hal Putoff's in there.
aaron rodgers
Oh, yeah.
Hal was talking about that.
joe rogan
I mean, there's a ton of people.
aaron rodgers
When's that coming up?
joe rogan
I do not know.
aaron rodgers
Is it coming out theater-wise or is it coming out like on a streaming service?
joe rogan
It'll probably come out on a streaming service, I had to guess, but it could come out in the theaters as well.
aaron rodgers
We're not going to try and bury it?
joe rogan
No, I mean, I don't think you can at this point.
aaron rodgers
Too big.
joe rogan
Everybody already knows that it's done and it's out there.
aaron rodgers
I think that's how disclosure is ultimately going to happen.
It's just going to just, one day there's going to be like, boop.
joe rogan
They think this documentary is going to break the well, break the dam rather.
Yeah, they think this one's pretty intense.
It's got basically everybody that worked on Christopher Mellon, all these different people that worked on all these different programs saying exactly what we have, what we know, how long it's been going on.
And this is why they have not released these things.
So there's that.
There's that aspect of it, the lying to Congress, the misappropriation of funds.
And then there's the other things that...
How do you work on this stuff?
Well, the government can't really do it on their own.
So what do they do?
They bring in defense contractors that make jets and spaceships and shit.
Those are the people that get access to this material.
If they do have back-engineered crafts and if they do have something that they recovered that's a crashed vehicle of non-human intelligence, non-human origin, not of this world, and they're back-engineering this, that company that's back-engineering that has An enormous advantage over their competitors.
And so their competitors would just sue.
Because, like, why would you give them access?
Why would Raytheon get access to it when GE doesn't or, you know, whatever the company is?
So they outlined the issues with, you know, disclosure.
And the resolution, they said, there has to be some sort of a blanket amnesty to everybody that worked in that program.
And they have to say...
Of course.
That's the only way.
aaron rodgers
That's how they do it, though.
joe rogan
But that's how they have to do it.
If we're going to find out the information, we have one of two things we have to accept.
We have to either accept that these people are going to be able to keep this stuff in power, or the people that are in power are going to be able to keep this stuff secret, because if they don't, then they're going to get in trouble, and they're never going to release it, and so we're all going to be in the dark forever.
Or we just say, okay, in that scenario, they're going to be off the hook no matter what.
So let's just let them off the hook for the greater good of mankind and understand what the fuck we're really looking at.
What are we really dealing with?
What do we really know?
And so I'm hopeful.
But that's a possibility.
aaron rodgers
So am I. Especially the last 10 years, there's been so much stuff that's been out there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
aaron rodgers
Videos and whistleblowers.
joe rogan
Basically from 2017.
From that New York Times article in 2017.
When it was on the front page of the New York Times, that kind of opened up a lot of people's eyes.
Like, okay, this is a real story now.
Because now it's not ridiculous anymore.
aaron rodgers
And now the next step is putting it out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, there's got to be a lot of bullshit.
There's a lot of fake stuff.
There's a lot of misinformation.
aaron rodgers
Don't you think that we're at least...
10 to 20 years behind even whistleblowers, what they actually have.
So even if they were to release some of the stuff, they still have other stuff that's just so far more advanced than we could possibly imagine.
joe rogan
I would imagine.
I bet they have some stuff.
aaron rodgers
That's what's crazy.
They can keep a lid on that, though.
unidentified
It is.
aaron rodgers
That is crazy.
joe rogan
It's impressive.
But we just both said that we would shut up.
That's true.
I mean, especially in today's day and age.
aaron rodgers
What a threat of death.
joe rogan
Yes.
aaron rodgers
It's a pretty strong motivator.
joe rogan
Also, there's no way to hide that stuff unless you're a chatty gay guy and James O 'Keefe gets you on camera.
aaron rodgers
Get off Grindr.
Watch out.
joe rogan
I wonder what apps they're using to get those chatty gay guys to give up all the juice.
aaron rodgers
That's pretty impressive.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would stop hiring chatty gay guys if I was involved in anything secret.
aaron rodgers
Don't do it.
You want to hide something.
joe rogan
They'll spill the beans for some dick.
aaron rodgers
They've got a lot of the big fish, too.
joe rogan
I know.
aaron rodgers
It's incredible.
Fizer out there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Guys.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Pretty wild.
aaron rodgers
CNN.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah, wild.
Stuff that you should be in jail for what they found.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, all that stuff is horrible.
aaron rodgers
But again, nobody goes to jail.
Nobody gets held accountable.
joe rogan
Yeah, except this lady with her frogs.
That lady's a problem.
aaron rodgers
Well, if you're threatening the establishment, she probably is.
She probably figured something out.
joe rogan
Yeah, the illusion of freedom.
We have a lot more freedom than every other country, but still, it's an illusion.
aaron rodgers
But you can't go after the, you know, in this country, two of the big ones are vaccines and cancer.
And that's what I've been actually diving deep into the last about year because I've had a number of people in my life get cancer.
And you've had a lot of people on the show who've talked about, you know...
joe rogan
SV40.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
But also the remedies they've been using.
I mean, you have Mel Gibson on here talking about phenban and ivermectin.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
And that's what I've been in the weeds, you know, learning about the last year or so.
It's really fascinating.
joe rogan
Such a disservice to humankind by demonizing ivermectin in order to push vaccines.
Because in so many sheep...
And so many dullards and so many people that are just boomers that believe everything that's in the news.
Ivermectin is a fool's medication.
aaron rodgers
Even today?
joe rogan
Today.
Yeah, even today.
They would have to be dying of cancer to even consider taking that.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, I had a doctor tell me that was...
Why would you want to take horse paste?
joe rogan
What a dumb doctor.
aaron rodgers
What the fuck are you talking about?
joe rogan
What a dumbass doctor.
Imagine saying that.
Did you ask him?
Do you know the history of the use of that drug?
aaron rodgers
It ended the conversation.
joe rogan
It's literally like saying penicillin.
Don't take penicillin.
They use that on dogs.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
I don't care.
It's got a Nobel Prize.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Nobel Prize for Use in Humans on the World Health Organization's list of essential medications.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
And horse paste.
aaron rodgers
The thing about cancer is wild is that the majority of doctors...
During this process, we'll not touch diet at all.
And we'll tell you diet makes zero difference.
And my problem is the same problem I have with the vaccine, and really the medical industry in general, is there's no more informed consent.
The informed consent around cancer would be that it's a metabolic issue.
And because it's a metabolic issue, and you're talking about anaerobic cells, then restricting sugar from your diet is a good place to start.
And none of these fucking doctors will...
Talk about diet, sugars, glucose, anaerobic cells, nothing.
joe rogan
No, someone I'm close to.
aaron rodgers
We do radiation and chemo, that's it.
joe rogan
Well, it's very profitable.
aaron rodgers
Extremely profitable.
joe rogan
The problem is chemotherapy, doctors are incentivized in a way to prescribe chemotherapy.
Yes.
Yeah, they're both profitable.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is really dangerous.
It's really dangerous when you make more money if you give people medication.
Because then you get doctors like that doctor in Ohio that got arrested that was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer.
He did it to like a lot of people.
He just was trying to make more money.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when you incentivize – and they're in that kind of a position of power where most people don't know what's going on and this is the voice of authority.
And they're like, look, your diet doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter at all.
They told it to someone close to me that got cancer.
Diet doesn't matter at all.
Well, of course it matters.
It matters to everything.
And it certainly matters to your metabolic health and your fucking immune system.
And then we know for a fact that cancer thrives on glucose.
If you're in a high-sugar diet and a highly processed food diet, you're ripe for inflammation.
You're going to get all kinds of inflammation that you wouldn't get if you were on a restricted diet that's higher in animal fats.
Low in processed sugar.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, ketogenic diet is a great place to start.
Because you're restricting your body.
joe rogan
But there was another article recently about how ketogenic diets are giving people cancer.
Or that people are getting heart attacks and strokes on ketogenic diets.
aaron rodgers
Is that by the American Medical Association written by them?
joe rogan
It's probably by the same people that paid off the people to say that sugar wasn't the cause of heart disease and that it was saturated fat.
The ones that was going on in the 50s and the 60s.
aaron rodgers
The food pyramid creators probably.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a mess.
But fortunately, there's enough alternative sources of information that some people, I would estimate it's like between 10 and 30 percent of the people are getting the truth.
And then there's 70% of the people that either don't have friends that know these things, don't have access to these websites, aren't getting informed, that there's a lot of these people that are doctors who are very credentialed, experts in their field, who have stepped outside of the narrative.
And they're doing it because they feel they have a moral obligation.
And they're saying, like, this is a problem, this SV40 that we find in vaccines.
Simeon virus 440 is known to cause cancer.
And they found traces of it in the COVID-19 vaccine.
And so in some of the batches of the COVID-19 vaccine, they find SV40.
SV40 gives people cancer.
Boom in cancer.
No connection.
aaron rodgers
Isn't it ripe, too, that AstraZeneca is making a cancer vaccine?
joe rogan
Well, that's just because they're nice.
They're good people.
Did you ever see what AstraZeneca means in Latin?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
What does it mean?
aaron rodgers
I just saw that.
It means...
Jamie, bring it up.
What does it mean again?
Something horrible.
joe rogan
Something death.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
I don't care about life or something.
They stick it right in your face.
joe rogan
It's like either it's a wild coincidence or they stick it right in your face.
aaron rodgers
Come on.
Somebody's got it laying it out.
joe rogan
Okay.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, here we go.
Post incorrectly.
joe rogan
Incorrectly interprets the meaning of AstraZeneca.
aaron rodgers
Yep.
Oh, Raiders.
joe rogan
So what is the correct one?
Okay, what are they saying it said?
Weapon to kill.
Users claim AstraZeneca means weapon to kill.
The posts here, here, and here show a screenshot of the translation.
Astra, Z, and Nakar.
aaron rodgers
Weapon that kills, yeah.
joe rogan
Weapon that kills.
Alleging that Astra means weapon.
In Hinduism, Z means that.
In Polish, well, a bunch of different languages.
Nakar, that's like a little bit connecting the Dotsies captions, but what does it really mean?
What are they saying it really means?
Does it mean anything?
Or is it just one of them names?
Astros is rooted in Greek.
Astron, meaning a star.
Zeneca is an invented name created by an agency instructed to find a name which began with a letter from either the top or bottom of the alphabet, was phonetically memorable, of no more than three syllables, and do not have an offensive meaning in any language.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Hmm.
It's all weird shit.
Like, why would you do that?
Like, just the way that you're creating this name, you don't want it to be offensive in any way, and you want it to be phonetically memorable, and like...
You know, it's like...
aaron rodgers
There was a thing on the internet a while back about when they had that crazy campaign, but Balenciaga as well.
They broke down what Balenciaga means, which is Baal is king.
Baal being the god of the Old Testament.
joe rogan
I didn't see that.
aaron rodgers
And then Balenciaga put together that crazy campaign where they spelled...
Balenciaga with two A's like bail and then they had the kids in it.
They had like books in the frame that were by a pedophile and all that crazy stuff.
It's like, is that just fucking coincidence or are you trying to...
joe rogan
It's right in your face.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think a lot of these people are super arrogant and they've been running...
These kinds of operations long before the internet existed.
So they still behave in the same way.
It's like when politicians get caught saying things and they said, I've never said that.
And then they put this whole long reel of them saying it over and over again.
It's because they forget.
They used to be able to just do that.
They used to be able to just bullshit.
And now there's too many internet sleuths that are out there just immediately pulling things up.
And then, of course, those are the internet sleuths that you get massive pushback if you platform.
If you talk to those people, everybody's like, why are you having those people on?
Yeah, exactly.
And, you know, fucking everybody freaked out.
aaron rodgers
Why?
joe rogan
Because he's really into it.
And he's uncovering, and maybe he's wrong about some things.
aaron rodgers
But he does some crazy research.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe he's right about things.
That's the problem.
It's not what he's wrong about that's the problem.
aaron rodgers
He opened my eyes to the, what does he call it, the mega corporation that owns everything.
He went through all the different brands and the fact that it's basically Vanguard, State Street, and BlackRock that own everything.
And then they own each other.
And he's got stuff on his website that shows, if you're looking for a brand, who the parent company is, who owns that company.
It all comes back to basically this conglomerate of BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, J.P. Morgan, and Fidelity, I think, are kind of the main four or five there.
joe rogan
Whatever happened to breaking up monopolies?
aaron rodgers
Oh, no.
They only did that back in the day with Rockefeller.
joe rogan
Well, they did it with Microsoft, didn't they?
aaron rodgers
Did they?
joe rogan
Sure.
aaron rodgers
I think these companies are like the pharmaceutical companies.
They realize, like, what's the Live Nation?
You know, like, these huge monopolies that own everything, they're like, it's just an added cost.
You know, I'm going to sue it at some point for a billion, or we're going to make $15 billion off it, and it's a $14 billion profit, so whatever, it's a drop in the bucket.
joe rogan
Well, that's what happens when drugs get pulled, and then people get sued.
Yeah, you talked about it, Mark.
Yeah.
They never get...
aaron rodgers
Viox, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, they never get fined more than they made.
aaron rodgers
Never.
joe rogan
Never.
It's always less than they made.
aaron rodgers
And the back's the perfect windfall because they have immunity.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
They have the perfect immunity.
joe rogan
They're talking about pulling that, and that's going to be the biggest fight.
That'll be the biggest fight.
Because there's still this narrative out there.
And when I had Suzanne Humphreys on...
aaron rodgers
First of all, that was one of the greatest.
And you got me onto her book.
joe rogan
Yes.
aaron rodgers
I read her book and then I read Bobby's book.
joe rogan
Her book's incredible.
aaron rodgers
Her book is unbelievable.
joe rogan
And no one...
aaron rodgers
And I gave it...
No, and I gave that book to a lot of my friends who are of...
You know, of childbearing age and they're starting to have kids.
I'm not telling you what to do, but just at least research this so you have all the information.
Because they're not going to give you the information.
My friend just had a kid and him and his wife got, I don't know what the right word is, but got kind of harassed for not jabbing up their kid on day one of her life.
joe rogan
Well, I experienced that when my kids were born.
They wanted you to dose them up.
And we were like, no.
No, we're waiting.
We're not doing anything for years.
We had a very good pediatrician, though, who wanted us to get the kids vaccinated, but on a delayed schedule.
He didn't believe in doing it all at once.
I mean, it's like, you can't, you're not even supposed to eat sushi while you're breastfeeding.
You know?
You're not even supposed to eat sushi while you're pregnant, because you could get some sort of a parasite.
And yet, you're going to take pregnant women and dose them up with this...
Experimental vaccine, air quote, vaccine, experimental medication is gene editing.
They changed the definition.
But there was no studies on whether or not women were getting damaged.
aaron rodgers
No studies got released.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah.
And now there's some study that it's destroying their eggs.
aaron rodgers
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Have you seen that?
See if you can find that.
I bet you can't.
unidentified
That.
aaron rodgers
Cancers.
Yeah, so you can find the eggs thing.
joe rogan
I know I saved the egg thing.
I can definitely find that one.
aaron rodgers
People dropping, kids dropping.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all very dark, dude.
It really is.
Because the more you look, the more you find.
aaron rodgers
What about the nanobots?
joe rogan
What about them?
What are you thinking?
aaron rodgers
Well, I've heard some rumblings that, you know, that was kind of like a fringe conspiracy theory that there was some nanobots particles that were in the vaccine.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not buying into that unless I see more because there was a lot of that.
People were saying, there's magnets in there.
unidentified
Look, the metal sticks to your injection sites.
aaron rodgers
Supposedly there's a frequency that brings the particles together.
joe rogan
Nanobots.
I haven't heard that.
aaron rodgers
It brings the particles together in the body and creates a tracking device.
joe rogan
I just sent Jamie this study, VAERS-adjusted data.
And other derived from the MIT Florida Department of Health study findings that yield a conservative range of 470,000 to 600,000 American deaths from the COVID-19 mRNA shots.
aaron rodgers
That's it?
joe rogan
Well, just that alone.
That's a lot of people, man.
More than World War I, World War II, and Vietnam combined.
If that's true.
It indicates Pfizer, this is Pfizer alone, so this is not even Moderna.
Pfizer alone likely killed over 470,000 Americans.
They found a 36% increase in all-cause mortality among Pfizer recipients versus Moderna.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, but they saved millions.
unidentified
Yeah, I keep hearing that.
joe rogan
I think the saving millions thing is even based on the idea that you wouldn't get COVID if you got the vaccine, which turned out to not be true at all.
aaron rodgers
None of what they said turned out to be true.
joe rogan
No.
No.
aaron rodgers
You can't get it.
You can't spread it.
unidentified
No.
aaron rodgers
You're more protected.
More robust immunity.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What was I just going to look up?
aaron rodgers
Winter of death for the non-vaxxed.
joe rogan
Oh, that was a good one.
That was a good one.
unidentified
Yeah, that's my favorite.
joe rogan
There's more studies coming out about myocarditis.
aaron rodgers
Who's going to be held accountable, though?
joe rogan
I don't know.
That's a good question.
Oh, here's the fertility study.
aaron rodgers
Who's going to apologize?
I haven't heard any apologies.
Have you?
joe rogan
No.
aaron rodgers
Anybody apologize?
CNN apologized to you yet for putting that filter on your face?
joe rogan
No, that'd be nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They should probably apologize.
aaron rodgers
Get Sanjay, get Goopda back on here.
I'm sure he'll apologize.
joe rogan
No.
I'd have him back on, I guess.
I don't know what we'd talk about.
aaron rodgers
CNN Plus, maybe?
joe rogan
You can defend.
That was a fun trip.
That was only a few hundred million dollar failure.
aaron rodgers
Oops.
They've got to be doing a little better now that Trump's back in.
They've got something to talk about.
joe rogan
I don't think they are.
aaron rodgers
No?
joe rogan
No, I think CNN's ratings are abysmal.
And the only thing that saves them is that people just are consistent.
They just go on there out of habit.
I don't think people are seeking it out.
So this is fertility study.
A study of 1.3 million showed successful conceptions per 1,000 women were considerably lower for women who were COVID-19 mRNA vaccinated.
Preliminary results call for further studies of the potential influence of COVID-19 vaccination on human fertility.
And I think in that thread, they were talking about what it does to their eggs and ovaries.
aaron rodgers
That's right there.
This is what a lot of the conspiracy theorists were talking about when the vax was coming out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Which, by the way, the conspiracy theorists are undefeated still.
joe rogan
Yeah, conspiracy theorists are way more accurate than CNN.
Way more.
Even if they got things wrong.
Like, let's say there's no nanobots in the shots.
But even if, whatever that, forget all that.
I think the nanobots in the shot would be too expensive.
That's why I think it's not real.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, I'm with you.
joe rogan
I mean, maybe a few people got it.
aaron rodgers
Maybe.
joe rogan
I still don't think Biden got it on TV.
I think they salined that dude.
I don't think they put a real COVID vaccine in him.
aaron rodgers
They didn't aspirate on any of the people on TV.
joe rogan
Or anybody I know that got the shot.
I asked everybody who got the shot, did they aspirate your needle?
What do you mean?
Well, in the syringe, when they plunge it in, to make sure you're not in a blood vessel, they pull it back and they see if there's blood.
And if there's blood in it, they find a new injection site.
Did they do that?
unidentified
No, they just plunged that motherfucker in.
joe rogan
Everybody just got plunged.
Yeah, and then there was the idea that it was going to stay local.
Don't worry, it'll stay local.
No, not only is it not staying local, your body's producing spike protein up to 700 plus days after the shot.
aaron rodgers
And some of the autopsies coming out, a little bit creepy.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the other thing.
Not just autopsies, but coroners who are finding these crazy clots.
aaron rodgers
That's what I mean, coroners, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, these crazy fucking clots that look like big white worms that are inside people's bodies that they've never seen before.
aaron rodgers
Hold people accountable.
Where's the news?
joe rogan
Where's the news during their job?
If the news was really the news, if you guys were really there to...
Tell us all the information that we should be concerned about.
Like, perhaps we are wrong about what this shot does, and perhaps with some people, maybe where it did get into their bloodstream, which is what they think happened, was the people that they didn't aspirate, because they didn't aspirate anybody, they think some of those people went right into their bloodstream, and then your body's fighting this off like it's an intruder, and that's where you get the myocarditis and all sorts of other neurological conditions, and it's crazy.
aaron rodgers
We gotta do a second shot, though.
And then a third, and then a fourth.
joe rogan
And then a ninth.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's people out there that took nine of those fucking things.
aaron rodgers
Hey, guess what?
It's just like the flu shot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
They get you for one strand of the flu per season.
joe rogan
Not only that, it makes you 25% more likely to get sick with something else.
aaron rodgers
But you're way more protected.
joe rogan
I've never had one.
I mean, I think maybe I had one once.
Maybe somebody made me get one once.
I don't know.
But I never get the fucking flu shot.
And people are like, I get the flu shot every year and I've never got the flu.
Well, bitch, I don't get the flu either.
Like, what are you saying?
Like, I got the flu like once and like a couple of years ago for like a day or two days.
I got a couple of vitamin IVs and I was good to go.
Like, this idea that you have to get this fucking shot or you're going to get the flu, and if you get the flu, you're going to die.
aaron rodgers
That's a lemming effect.
That's a lemming effect.
I've got to do this because everybody else is doing it.
If I don't do it, I'm outside the herd.
If I'm outside the herd, I'm outside of my livelihood.
joe rogan
Well, it's also you don't want to get the flu.
The flu sucks.
You don't want to be laid up in bed out of work for a week.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, but the best immunity is natural immunity.
Contraction and beating anything, just about.
joe rogan
Which is probably why I don't have the flu.
aaron rodgers
Well, maybe diet has something to do with it, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of things have to do with it.
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
You don't eat like shit.
Maybe take some vitamins.
joe rogan
That's a factor.
unidentified
No.
aaron rodgers
Mr. Hotez.
joe rogan
What you need is a balanced diet of cheeseburgers.
Yeah, that was a crazy one, the Hotez one.
aaron rodgers
That was a great one.
joe rogan
Looking at an overweight guy who's clearly unhealthy telling you the only way to get healthy is an injection.
aaron rodgers
No, don't take any vitamins.
Really?
joe rogan
Doesn't exercise, doesn't take vitamins, eat junk food.
Okay.
And I'm listening to you.
Why?
aaron rodgers
And those are the people prescribing.
Going to college to be a doctor prescribing drugs.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's really what it boils down to.
aaron rodgers
They hook you, they deal with symptoms that keep you a patient for life.
joe rogan
Uh-huh, yeah.
And it's immensely profitable.
aaron rodgers
And anybody trying to actually heal people and treat the patient.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're a kook.
You're a kook.
Naturopath kook.
What are you saying?
aaron rodgers
Vitamin C. Vitamin C. You fucking hippie.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
The really crazy thing from the Suzanne Humphreys book that got me was the connection between DDT and polio.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
What we call polio.
aaron rodgers
How about how they change, just like the vax, they change the definition of polio.
joe rogan
Right.
Once the vaccine was introduced, they completely changed the definition of polio to show this immense drop-off of polio.
aaron rodgers
Look at this.
It doesn't exist anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, meanwhile, all the other things that could be what people were experiencing symptoms of all still existed.
aaron rodgers
And most of the diseases cleared up from sanitation, clean air, clean water, proper sewage.
joe rogan
Well, when you look at the chart of when sanitation was introduced, everything goes away.
Yeah, we were living in squalor and filth.
Human beings were living in outhouses all throughout New York City.
No ventilation.
People were no nutrition.
No food.
People were starving to death.
They were working horrible hours.
And of course, everybody was sick as fuck.
aaron rodgers
One of my favorite parts about the book was there was during the cowpox epidemic where they were like cutting people's skin and putting like...
Pussy disease into it as the vaccination.
And there was a county in England, I believe, that wasn't doing any of that stuff.
And it was the only county that had zero cases or next to zero cases of cowpox in the area.
And the other counties just hated them because they were the anti-establishment, non-vaccinated people.
And it's like, what happened today?
How come we haven't studied the Amish?
There's been a few studies.
Why do the Amish live longer lives?
They're healthier.
They don't have any SIDS.
joe rogan
No autism either.
aaron rodgers
No autism.
joe rogan
The SIDS thing is the scariest one.
Because there's people saying that what SIDS is, is these children dying from vaccines.
And that, oh, your kid just died suddenly.
Who knows?
What happened?
Well, did anything happen before that?
Did you, like, maybe inject them with a bunch of chemicals?
aaron rodgers
In the last couple weeks?
joe rogan
Was it hepatitis B for a fucking baby?
Did that go down?
You know, what happened?
But nobody wants to say it because nobody wants to be responsible for their child dying because they let that happen.
aaron rodgers
And instead of going, that's interesting, they go, oh, you're a fucking anti-vaxxer.
You're that.
You're anti-science.
joe rogan
It's like...
aaron rodgers
The content of what I'm saying is, doesn't it fucking piss you off that SIDS even exists in the first place?
And you're just putting this blanket made up, you know, made up, I don't know what the right word is, to label.
Oh, it's a sudden infant death syndrome.
We don't know what it is.
It just happened suddenly, and it happened to an infant, and they died.
Wouldn't you want to figure out what the fuck caused this instead of just like, well, we don't know.
It's just a small percentage that it just happens to.
Well, what happened to the baby in the first?
You know, right before, the day before.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Two days before, a week before, two weeks before.
joe rogan
The Amish and the autism thing is really nuts.
They don't find any autism.
aaron rodgers
In the study I read, they found two cases of autism in this Amish population, and both were adopted kids.
joe rogan
Jeez.
aaron rodgers
Who had been vaccinated.
joe rogan
That is so wild.
The overall implications are so large that people don't even want to consider the possibility of it.
They'd rather keep the blinders on.
It's like what Carl Sagan said about people being bamboozled.
That it's easier to bamboozle people than to trick them.
It's easier to trick them than to convince them that they've been tricked.
Because they don't want to believe it.
And that's what you see.
People are like, you start talking to them about the possibility that these things caused all these problems, and their eyes glaze over.
unidentified
They're like, oh, where are you hearing this?
joe rogan
Where are you hearing that that's not the case?
Why are you so confident to say that this is what happened?
People just like, COVID vaccine saved millions of lives.
unidentified
Millions.
joe rogan
Like, how do you know that?
How do you know that?
How many do you think got fucked up by it?
I know a lot of people that got fucked up by it.
And most people do, too.
And they don't want to admit it.
Well, it's not correlation.
Causation is not correlation.
They want to pretend.
aaron rodgers
Why are they trying to scare the shit out of everybody?
Tell me that.
Why do they have fucking debt tolls on the news stations?
joe rogan
Make a lot of money.
aaron rodgers
And that's with vaccines.
Same thing.
There's a ton of money.
Doctors get huge bonuses for fully vaccinated kids.
That's the truth.
Isn't that, I mean like, instead of attacking the person that says that, isn't it something you should look into?
joe rogan
Right.
aaron rodgers
Is that a conflict of interest?
joe rogan
It seems like it is.
aaron rodgers
Should be.
joe rogan
Yeah, it seems like it is.
aaron rodgers
Let me try one of those.
joe rogan
Get in there, dog.
You're not going to try two.
You want two at least.
Come on, get a couple more, man.
You're going to run dry.
My friend Brendan Schaub, he had like four sixes in his mouth.
I'm like, what are you doing?
You have four in your mouth?
I'm like, dude, I love them.
Four.
At any given time, I got four in there.
unidentified
That's so much.
joe rogan
They have one, I think, called the Pablo.
Is that what it's called?
I think it has 30 milligrams.
I put it in my mouth for a second.
I was like, I can't do this.
I can't handle this.
unidentified
It says it's got a 50. Oh my god!
50?
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so crazy!
That's so much nicotine!
You're supposed to have like 6 milligrams a day for the...
Benefits that they talk about.
aaron rodgers
Six?
That's it?
joe rogan
I think that's it.
I think that's all you need.
aaron rodgers
And the benefits increase the more you take?
joe rogan
I don't know.
We'll find out.
Imagine if they do a study on all these guys that were using tobacco pouches all day.
Like Shane Gillis, he fucking swaps a new one out every five minutes all day long.
He's just popping sixes.
aaron rodgers
Real American right there.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I thought they were super addictive, so I quit for a few days.
That was fine.
It was nothing.
I felt nothing.
aaron rodgers
I think you have a stronger will than most people, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I didn't even get a headache.
When I quit coffee, I get a headache.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've quit coffee a couple times for a day or two, just for fun, to see what happens.
unidentified
I'm like, oh, I feel like shit.
joe rogan
I'm 100% addicted to coffee.
But I could quit it.
It would just, I would feel like shit for a couple days.
And I would just figure out what to take so I don't feel like shit.
aaron rodgers
Sugar, I think, is the biggest addictive substance.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
aaron rodgers
You cut sugar out, you do like a whole 30 or whatever, you know.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, people freak out.
joe rogan
They freak out.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, I get you.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's another thing that freaks out when people start trying ketogenic diets.
They get the keto flu, they call it.
unidentified
Yep.
Because your body's like, where's the sugar?
joe rogan
And then there's also the problem that a lot of the sugar that we're getting is corn syrup.
And corn syrup is sort of a manufactured sugar.
So your body, there's an extra step your body has to take to process it.
Like people want to say, oh, well, it's chemically the same as it is from fruit or cane sugar.
aaron rodgers
No, it's not.
joe rogan
It's not.
No, no.
The science shows that that is not the case.
Not only that.
aaron rodgers
Anthony Fauci?
joe rogan
Not that guy.
aaron rodgers
Okay.
unidentified
If you criticize Anthony Fauci, you're criticizing science.
joe rogan
Okay.
What about those fucking AIDS vaccines you gave foster kids, you piece of shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
In the 1980s where they died.
aaron rodgers
What about the polio vaccines your best buddy gave in India and maimed and paralyzed a bunch of kids?
joe rogan
How about that?
Most of the polio was from vaccines.
This is like modern polio.
There's a large percentage of modern polio that is vaccine-derived polio.
aaron rodgers
The majority, Suzanne says.
joe rogan
Yeah, you tell that to people and they go, What?
aaron rodgers
No.
joe rogan
My favorite one is when people get nutty about all this stuff.
What about polio?
If they didn't have the polio vaccine, I'd go, what percentage of polio do you think is asymptomatic?
Meaning you have polio, but you have no symptoms at all.
And they're like, oh, probably none.
95 to 99%.
You say that, and they're like, what?
And then you Google it, and you see it right in front of your face.
And people just go, what the fuck is going on here?
What is that?
And then Suzanne Humphries, when she connects DDT, where the first cases of polio were from rural communities, where they were spraying DDT on all the crops.
They were spraying DDT everywhere.
No one knew that DDT was so bad for you.
They were spraying it everywhere.
And not just people were getting polio.
Dogs, horses, cows.
It was like animals were getting the same symptoms.
And polio, it doesn't go to these other species.
It doesn't jump species.
It was DDT poisoning.
aaron rodgers
That's coincidence.
joe rogan
It's wild.
You tell that to people and their eyes glaze over.
And I get it.
I get it.
I've been there before.
It's like it's too much.
It's too much to admit, as Carl Sagan says, the bamboozle.
aaron rodgers
Why, though?
Why can't we just be common sense?
That's what I was thinking the other day.
I was like, I don't want any shit in my water.
Let's take out the fluoride.
Let's take out the chemicals.
In our food, can we take out artificial dyes?
Is it too hard to have the same food, U.S. manufacturers, that you put in the food in Europe that doesn't have the dyes in it, that doesn't have the bullshit, that has 20 less ingredients?
The same shit for us.
joe rogan
Yeah, the same company.
No one's saying, don't give us Froot Loops.
I want Froot Loops.
Just give me Froot Loops that don't give me cancer.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can do that.
It's still bad for you, but so what?
It's less bad for you.
Wouldn't that be better?
Like, oh, it doesn't look as pretty?
What?
Once the milk gets in there and everything gets crazy, who gives a fuck?
No little kids are looking at that going, I don't like this as much.
The colors are dull.
No, they're going to eat the Froot Loops.
aaron rodgers
But is it too much to just want to have common sense shit?
Your vaccines, can we get them just double-blind placebo-tested, safety-tested vaccines?
joe rogan
Well, they're going to do that now.
And this is another one that Bobby's done.
aaron rodgers
Come on, Bobby.
joe rogan
The other thing that Bobby did, did you see that conversation that he had with a dentist about fluoride?
Where the dentist was questioning about fluoride.
Well, you're going to have a lot more dental surgeries.
And then Bobby hits him with the stats.
You don't need that in the water.
If fluoride is so effective, you use it orally, like toothpaste and mouthwash.
And you spit it out.
You don't have to swallow it.
And you probably shouldn't even do that.
I don't use fluoride toothpaste.
Eddie Bravo had a great point.
He's like, if fluoride did so much, why would they specifically advertise toothpaste as not having fluoride?
Fluoride-free toothpaste.
Which is true.
That's what I use.
I don't have any cavities.
I haven't had cavities in fucking ever.
I can't remember.
aaron rodgers
There's some other ways to avoid cavities, too.
You know, like do oil pulling.
Just swish some coconut oil around your mouth.
Add some baking soda if you want to it.
Do you know this?
Somebody was talking about this recently about the myth around root canals.
joe rogan
And the danger of root canals.
Yeah, the root canals can possibly leave bacteria under the skin.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, it's really bad for you.
If you have a root canals, I do.
I'm getting mine taken out.
joe rogan
What are they going to do?
Are you going to put a drill hole in there, a post, and get a new tooth?
Or are you just going to go toothless?
aaron rodgers
New tooth, I think.
joe rogan
New tooth.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, it'd be kind of cool if I was a hockey player.
joe rogan
Maybe I'd get a gold tooth like a rapper.
unidentified
Let's go!
aaron rodgers
Platinum.
unidentified
Platinum.
aaron rodgers
Diamond.
joe rogan
I have a couple diamonds in my teeth.
Let's get a grill.
aaron rodgers
I can see you with a grill.
Next UFC.
joe rogan
All diamonds.
Vampire grill.
aaron rodgers
Big UFC coming up.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, the Marab rematch with Sugar Sean.
That's an interesting fight.
Very interesting fight.
I do not know.
How Sugar Sean keeps that guy off of him, but I do like what he's been doing.
Got off social media, stopped smoking weed, just dialed the fuck in.
Got his hip fixed, which was a big problem.
There's a lot of these fighters that take these fights because it's a lot of money, and it's a big event, and they don't want to cancel, and they've got a significant injury.
Sean could not wrestle.
Imagine not being able to wrestle in camp, and you've got to go face Marab.
aaron rodgers
Who's going to get you on the ground.
joe rogan
He's a fucking animal.
That guy's superhuman.
There's no one like him.
The cardio that guy has is off the charts.
It's just off the charts.
I've never seen anything like it.
He doesn't get tired.
And he's full gas.
No brakes.
The entire fight.
It's just smothering.
Overwhelming people.
Even Nurmagomedov, who's also an animal.
He couldn't keep him off of him.
This motherfucker's crazy.
And then when DC went to visit him on Sunday, the day after the fight, he was out running.
aaron rodgers
What?
joe rogan
Yep.
DC went to his house to congratulate him, and DC made a video of it, because he showed a video of Marab's gym.
He's got this gym in his garage, pretty dope.
And he's like, this motherfucker's out running.
He just won the world title, and the next day he's running.
He's an animal, man.
He's a fucking animal.
aaron rodgers
I was sad to not see you in Montreal.
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't been going to Canada lately.
I talk too much shit.
I love Canadian people.
I do love Canadian people.
aaron rodgers
And I like Montreal.
It's a good city.
joe rogan
I love Montreal.
One of my favorite restaurants, Joe Beef, is in Montreal.
If you can get in, go there.
It's fucking phenomenal.
Incredible place.
Incredible place.
They'll let you in.
But the culture in Montreal is amazing.
I've always loved it.
I've been going to Montreal since the 90s.
I love it.
I love Vancouver.
I love Toronto.
I love Canada.
I love the people.
I just think...
They're going down a dark road with this government, and it's hard to pull that stuff back.
Once they start taking away rules or instituting laws, taking away rights, pulling people's guns, doing all the things they're doing right now, they allow polygamy now in Ontario.
Yeah, they just passed a law.
They allow polygamy because they have so many Muslims there.
aaron rodgers
Are we sure we want them as a 51st state?
joe rogan
Yeah, we can clean it up.
It's never going to happen.
He was just trying to fuck with them and it had the worst effect possible because they thought that Pierre and the Conservatives were a shoo-in.
Jordan, the way he described it, he said they were in a position where the Liberal Party had a real risk of complete collapse and then Trump comes along.
I'm going to turn it into the 51st state.
I was on the phone with him when he was telling me.
He's like, I kept calling him Governor Trudeau.
And he goes, first of all, I was joking about turning it into a 51st state.
But then a lot of people go, it's actually a good idea.
I think it might be a good idea.
It's so crazy!
But that had the worst possible effect because then Canada united, like, hey, these fucking Americans think they're going to take over us, eh?
Sorry.
Yeah, it became a disaster for Canada, unfortunately.
Because if he didn't say that, Pierre would have probably won.
aaron rodgers
Is this guy worse than Trudeau?
Is that possible?
joe rogan
That's what Jordan believes.
aaron rodgers
Really?
joe rogan
Jordan believes he's worse than Trudeau.
Jordan thinks he embodies all the worst aspects of the World Economic Forum, young global leaders' mentality of control, and some of the things that he said about every decision will be made with climate change in mind, like that kind of talk.
This idea of climate change, yes, yes, sure, we should definitely clean up the environment, of course.
But understand that there's no thing they do ever that's completely benevolent.
It's not happening.
Everything they do is about power and money.
And so if they're pushing global health or if they're pushing...
Climate control or climate change.
It is about power and money.
aaron rodgers
It's a restriction of rights coming, for sure.
joe rogan
And they just do it in a way where it's kind of undeniable because the future of our world, the future of your children.
Meanwhile, Canada's just pumping coal like a fucking semi on the highway.
unidentified
They're just fucking making coal power plants.
joe rogan
They're like, look at these idiots.
We are just going to make as much electricity as possible because we're in a fucking technology AI race with these assholes.
And then they found out that China has been sneaking in all of these listening devices to these solar systems that they sold us.
aaron rodgers
What about the Transformers?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Transformers.
Yeah, a lot of different things.
Yeah, Chinese solar power inverters.
This is what it is.
I'll send it to you, Jamie, if you can't pull it up in time.
It's a race to see who gets it first, Jamie or me.
jamie vernon
I can see it already.
joe rogan
You got it, bitch.
jamie vernon
Here it is.
joe rogan
He's always quicker than me.
And he's only typing one here, which is even crazier.
aaron rodgers
That's impressive, Jamie.
joe rogan
But so they found out that there's, they're calling it a ghost in the machine.
There's these rogue communications devices found in Chinese solar power inverters.
Yeah, of course.
If we're stupid and we take their stuff because it's cheaper and there's no limitations on these foreign countries buying up land in America where you can't buy any fucking land in China.
You can't own a company in China.
You can't buy land in China.
They're smart about it.
aaron rodgers
We're stupid about it.
We got another China virus, huh?
joe rogan
So rogue communication devices not listed in product documents have been found in some Chinese solar power inverters by U.S. experts who stripped down equipment hooked up to grids to check for security issues.
Two people said.
Over the past nine months, undocumented communication devices, including cellular radios, have also been found in some batteries from multiple Chinese suppliers.
Cellular radios in batteries.
I mean, this is the ultimate Trojan horse.
I mean, props to China.
They're so clever.
They knew we're dumb, and they know we're greedy, so we want cheaper stuff.
aaron rodgers
Why don't we just shut this shit down?
joe rogan
Because we can't make these things.
This is what Trump is trying to encourage.
I talked to Tim Cook.
Tim, you don't want to be opening up a plant in India.
I don't like it.
And people's like, that sounds like fascism.
No, it sounds like someone's concerned about national security.
Maybe we shouldn't have...
Who knows what's in this?
Who knows what's in this?
I never looked.
I've never looked in this.
I don't look.
And most of these are made in China or India, right?
Why don't they make them here so we know that it's just the CIA spying on us?
aaron rodgers
Nah, they couldn't be doing that.
They're benevolent.
joe rogan
My favorite one is these phones that can't be hacked.
aaron rodgers
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because I asked...
A legitimate security expert to do a deep dive on this.
And he sent me an actual PDF.
Like, he laid out all...
He, like, literally went through it.
He's like, I can get into all these.
Everybody can get...
And he's like, if...
aaron rodgers
Wasn't Elon going to make one, though?
joe rogan
He's talked about it.
But he's like, I hope I don't have to make a phone.
That's what he says.
I hope I don't have to do that.
But if they get into his iPhone and fucking texts get leaked and that kind of shit happens, maybe he will.
aaron rodgers
I was watching Kill Tony.
Who's the comic who played Elon?
joe rogan
Kyle Dunnigan.
aaron rodgers
Kyle Dunnigan.
joe rogan
He's the best.
aaron rodgers
He's hilarious.
joe rogan
He's so funny, dude.
aaron rodgers
He's so funny.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen his Instagram?
aaron rodgers
No.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He does these face swap videos with Trump and Stormy Daniels and the Kardashians.
Stormy!
He's so funny, man.
He's so funny.
He's such a wild dude.
Kyle is the most underappreciated guy out there, I believe.
I really do.
In terms of all-out funny, his stuff is so ridiculous.
aaron rodgers
Comedy, I feel like, is kind of in a better place.
joe rogan
Is in a better place.
I think a big turning point was the Tom Brady roast.
Because it was the biggest thing ever on Netflix.
More people watched the Tom Brady roast on Netflix, which was wild comedy.
Tony Hinchcliffe, Andrew Schultz.
aaron rodgers
Tony was unbelievable.
joe rogan
On fire!
On fire!
Yeah, I mean, he took that super seriously.
And, you know, I actually got a hold of Tom to get him on the roast.
aaron rodgers
Really?
joe rogan
I was like, yeah, I'm like, you gotta get Tony Hinchcliffe.
They're doing a roast on you.
He's the best roaster alive.
No exaggeration.
aaron rodgers
So you think after that, just...
More stuff was on the table?
joe rogan
Netflix was all of a sudden like...
Wide open.
They were completely open to do wild stuff now because they're like, look, fuck all this woke shit.
This is not profitable.
Not only is it not profitable, we're actually killing the business.
And you're killing the business of comedy because people watch these specials and are like, what is this?
You made a DEI comedy special or an inclusive comedy special where you're letting people do comedy in the biggest form in the world just because they fit this particular Group of people, this particular political group.
It's crazy.
It's identity politics in the worst way possible because it's counterproductive for your business.
Your business is to provide entertainment.
And some of your more successful businesses are the movies and shows.
They're wild shows.
Crazy shit happens in these shows.
But not with comedy.
With comedy, we have to gatekeep.
We have to keep it.
And I think they realized after they did a few of those things that nobody watches them.
People hate them.
And it actually is bad for their business.
And then they do the Brady Rose.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
And they're like, okay.
You know?
And when I did my special, they had no limitations on me.
They didn't say anything.
aaron rodgers
And they have before?
joe rogan
And it was live.
But no, because it was live.
They're like, we're not telling you what to say.
It's live.
Just go ahead.
We trust you.
They went to see me live at the club.
They're like, okay.
I'm like, really?
Okay.
They're letting it go.
Now Tony has a special that's coming out on Netflix.
They're doing Kill Tony is on Netflix now.
aaron rodgers
Really?
joe rogan
He's doing more roasts on Netflix.
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
That's great.
That's what you need.
joe rogan
And then I think it's also the competition with YouTube because so many people like Shane put his special out on YouTube.
Ari put Jew on YouTube.
So many people are putting these wild specials on YouTube and they're getting massive numbers.
Massive numbers.
And so I think they're just like, look, we're in the fucking business.
What are we doing?
This is obviously super popular and people love it.
And it's also really good.
This is really good comedy.
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
aaron rodgers
Going broke.
Go woke.
joe rogan
Let's go back to where we were.
And now that Trump's in office, it's like, well, the whole country leans in that direction now.
So people want you to get more wild.
aaron rodgers
SNL is kind of funny again.
joe rogan
They've had some funny sketches.
Yeah.
They had Shane on twice.
aaron rodgers
They had Shane on twice.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, so it's good.
It's good for comedy.
Comedy has to be looser.
You have to be more wild.
It doesn't mean you're cruel.
It doesn't mean you're evil.
It's just comedy.
Just like movies where people get shot, that's not evil either.
Okay?
It's like...
Comedy is funnier when it says fucked up things.
It just is.
Always has been.
Yeah.
Back from Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce and Sam Kennison and Bill Hicks and everybody else and Eddie Murphy.
It's always been the wildest shit is what's funny.
aaron rodgers
Kings of comedy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
King's Comedy, Blue Collar Tour, you know, Dave Chappelle.
It's like, it's all with the wild shit is the funniest shit.
Period.
aaron rodgers
That's what people want to see.
joe rogan
That's what people want to see.
They know what it is.
It's a fucking art form.
It's called shit talking.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
aaron rodgers
Put your offense to the side.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just go have a good time.
They don't mean it.
Like, have you seen Brian Holtzman yet?
aaron rodgers
No.
joe rogan
Oh my God, you gotta see Brian Holtzman.
He's a Los Angeles legend that we got to come out to Austin.
And he was like the guy that would go on late at night.
And he's so wild that Mitzi Shore wouldn't put him on stage.
For two weeks after 9-11.
aaron rodgers
Really?
joe rogan
She's like, no!
Don't let him go up!
And we were dying!
Holt's like, Miss Minty, I don't understand.
I'm not gonna say anything crazy.
She's like, no way.
No way.
Two weeks.
Two weeks later, he's just saying the most ridiculous shit.
He went on stage after Susan Smith drowned her kids like the day after.
He's like, I heard there were bad kids.
I heard they sat that close to the TV.
They didn't pollute away their blocks.
They were always spilling their fucking milk.
Those kids would not be missed.
Like, it's a crazy character.
You meet him in real life.
He's the nicest guy on earth.
But he's so funny.
He's so ridiculous.
I don't want to tell you what he's talking about now.
I don't want to give it away, but...
Comics just line up to watch this guy.
When he's on stage, we all get out to the balcony.
aaron rodgers
Has he been in the mothership?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He headlines there all the time.
He's there all the time.
He wasn't having an audience in L.A. because they were putting him late at night.
And here, we're like, throw him up at 10 o 'clock.
Let him headline.
Give him 40 minutes, man.
Let him go off.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
It's fun.
It's a good time for comedy.
A really good time for comedy.
aaron rodgers
But movies, though.
Movies haven't caught up, though.
joe rogan
No, but have you seen...
aaron rodgers
I'm not saying we gotta go make Tropic Thunder multiple times.
joe rogan
Have you seen Segura's new Netflix series?
aaron rodgers
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
aaron rodgers
Is it?
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
Yeah.
It's so crazy.
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
It's called Bad Thoughts.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
It's these short sketches, these short films, essentially.
They're all, like, short, like, five, ten-minute films.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's just a bunch of them.
And they're fucking ridiculous.
Like, so outrageous and so crazy that you're watching like, no!
aaron rodgers
No!
joe rogan
Oh, my God!
What the fuck, dude?
It's really wild.
aaron rodgers
Is it just Sam or is Burt with him?
joe rogan
A bunch of people.
No, Burt is not in it.
And Burt actually made a video congratulating Tom and saying- Burt's on the outs.
I don't know why I wasn't on it.
Did you think about having me on it?
Kind of weird that my best friend didn't have me on his show.
He's like, I'm kind of, and he said, Tom, I'm kind of joking, but also kind of serious.
Like, was there any talks about having me on it?
aaron rodgers
He's a little hurt.
You're a first alternate, but you just missed the cut.
joe rogan
I wasn't on it either.
You know, who cares?
It's great.
It's really great.
And again, it's like Netflix taking wild chances.
Just completely wild chances.
aaron rodgers
I think that's so much goddamn money.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
And so many viewers.
It's like if you want to reach the most people, it's YouTube and then Netflix.
aaron rodgers
You think UFC is going to go to Netflix?
joe rogan
I don't know if they could do that.
I'm a dummy.
I'm not a business guy.
I don't understand.
So the problem is...
Would they be pay-per-view still?
Because the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight was on Netflix, and you could just watch it.
Just like you watch everything else.
You have to pay more for it.
So if they had the UFC on Netflix, but they made people pay more for it, I don't know how that would work out.
aaron rodgers
What if you just did, like, five bucks?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, that's a good question, right?
Like, if the UFC was $5 instead of $70, would you actually make more money?
Because you would get millions of downloads?
Or millions of views?
aaron rodgers
We think about the user base on Netflix.
joe rogan
Right.
It's pretty immense.
aaron rodgers
It's got to be what?
500 million?
A billion?
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll find out.
It's got to be way bigger than ESPN+.
aaron rodgers
ESPN Plus fucked themselves with it a couple ago.
I couldn't even get it on my TV.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had a crash during the Ankoli of Pereira fight, right?
That's not good.
aaron rodgers
I was looking online like, what the fuck?
I'm not the only one.
Thousands of people were like...
joe rogan
What was the root cause of that?
Did they discern?
aaron rodgers
I don't know.
It literally wouldn't let me get on.
joe rogan
That's another fight.
Pereira took that fight with a broken hand and a norovirus.
aaron rodgers
I knew he was messed up.
joe rogan
He's an animal.
Netflix has 94 million monthly active users.
The company has over 300 million paid global subscribers.
So it's 300 million worldwide.
Top ad-supported tier.
Oh, so now you can have ads, so it's cheaper.
You can get it cheaper with ads.
Okay, they're distinct from paid subscribers.
Multiple individuals can share an account.
aaron rodgers
Do you have any idea what the average pay-per-view on...
UFC is?
joe rogan
No.
I don't.
I don't know what the numbers are.
Because I don't think they have to disclose it.
Do they even?
They used to disclose them back in the day.
aaron rodgers
Boxing would all the time as kind of a badge of honor.
Floyd would do...
joe rogan
Four million for the Conor McGregor fight.
It was something crazy.
That was one of the records.
And then the Manny Pacquiao fight I think was the biggest one ever.
aaron rodgers
Who's coming back to fight?
joe rogan
That's kind of crazy.
aaron rodgers
He's 46 years old.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But...
He's also saucy.
aaron rodgers
Great singer.
joe rogan
He's not going to come back 46 on the natch, I guarantee you.
aaron rodgers
You think so?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, if I was a person that was, like, prone to ridiculous speculation, which I am, I mean, he carried his knockout power through eight weight classes.
And his physique notably improved.
I mean, and boxing has always had a steroid issue.
Steroids, because, like...
Weigh-in tests, tests on the day of the weigh-ins, is just an intelligence test.
It's just how good is your doctor?
How good are the scientists?
Same as UFC.
MMA was...
aaron rodgers
Why didn't they stop doing that?
joe rogan
Well...
aaron rodgers
Or change the weight classes?
joe rogan
USADA.
When UFC brought in USADA, all that changed and people's physiques melted.
They changed radically.
Alistair Overeem is the greatest example.
Alistair, when he fought Brock Lesnar, got drug tested and he was...
Saucy as fuck.
When he's flexing on stage, that's when he's Ubering.
260, solid as fuck, ripped, and just one of the more elite strikers on planet Earth, and Brock was fucked.
And then they make him take the drug test, and he becomes a normal person with good fighting skills.
I mean, he wasn't the Ubering anymore, this destroyer.
On the sauce, man.
I would have loved to see what an Alistair Overeem run on the sauce would have been.
aaron rodgers
My God.
Demolishing people.
joe rogan
My God.
It would have been epic.
It would have been really wild to see.
aaron rodgers
So you want to see it back in the game.
unidentified
Oh, yeah!
joe rogan
I want fun!
I don't want to see fat heavyweights.
The fuck out of here.
I want Alistair back.
Get him back on the sauce.
Alistair's like a vegan now.
aaron rodgers
You think Jon Jones fights this year?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I hope so.
But I don't know if he does.
He doesn't have to, right?
He's a legend.
He's also 37. At what point in time?
Is he 36 or 37?
At one point in time, does a fighter say enough is enough?
Especially a natural fighter.
And if you are natural, and you have to be today, they just test you way too much.
There's probably some shenanigans that go on, you know?
Like when A-Rod had those gummies that had testosterone in them, and it's a short lifespan.
There's probably some shenanigans that are still going on.
aaron rodgers
I mean, if Balco could get away with it.
20 plus years now.
You would think there's got to be people out there who are ahead of the game.
joe rogan
Well, when I talked to Nowitzki, he was pretty open about that.
aaron rodgers
Oh, you had him on here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was like, yeah, there's going to be methods that we don't catch.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's always going to be some kind of a lab, like Icarus, like the documentary.
aaron rodgers
Amazing documentary.
joe rogan
Woo!
aaron rodgers
With the KGB.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
That was incredible.
One of the greatest documentaries ever because...
aaron rodgers
And he wasn't even doing that in general.
He was just trying to...
joe rogan
He stumbled upon it.
aaron rodgers
He stumbled upon it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then he did that other one afterwards, The Dissident.
aaron rodgers
I didn't see that one.
joe rogan
Did you see that documentary?
It's all about the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi.
aaron rodgers
Oh, really?
joe rogan
And that one, interestingly enough, nobody wanted to stream that one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You had to buy that one.
aaron rodgers
That's surprising.
joe rogan
They put it on platforms, but you had to purchase it.
And I think that might still be the case.
Because that one, you know, because like...
What's that called?
The Dissident.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's very good, dude.
It's very good.
It's dark.
aaron rodgers
2020?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
aaron rodgers
Where does it say you can get it at?
Just YouTuber?
joe rogan
Tubi.
aaron rodgers
Tubi.
What the fuck is Tubi?
joe rogan
Exactly!
That's what I'm saying, man.
It's one of those things where it's like, they buried that motherfucker.
aaron rodgers
Those are the ones I want to see.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a good one.
Can't get platformed.
But Icarus...
Totally by accident, this guy stumbles upon...
So what Brian was doing, Brian, who's an endurance athlete himself, was going to compete in a bicycle race naturally, and then the next year he's going to get doped up and document the entire thing.
So he gets a hold of this guy who is supposedly the head of the organization that stops drug use in Russia.
But Gregory...
Rechenkov starts explaining exactly how to do this.
This is what you're going to take.
And then along the way, they get busted for tampering with the urine samples that were used during the Sochi Olympics.
So they find out that during the Sochi Olympics...
Everyone was doping.
Russia got like a ton of medals and they kicked ass and everything.
And interestingly enough, you said the one sport that they found that didn't benefit from steroid use was ice skating, the figure skaters.
You know, like, you had to have, like, fine motor skill movement.
It was really just about being light and being able to perform those things over and over again.
And they didn't find evidence that giving those people steroids helped, which I thought was interesting because I would have thought it would have helped everything.
I mean, there's a lot of explosive power involved when they jump and spit in the air.
But so the entire team was doping, and then they had a hole in the wall where they would...
Take the real urine sample, pass it through the hole in the wall, and they would give them back a doctored urine sample.
aaron rodgers
But it was the KGB who was running that stuff.
joe rogan
The KGB was running it, allegedly.
And the lids...
Through microscopic analysis, they had found that they developed some sort of a tool that could open the supposedly unopened...
aaron rodgers
Without tampering with the...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they found all these scratches all over that indicated that some sort of a device had gotten in there and popped open the little things that kept the lid from coming off.
Woo!
Well, it's like, you know, when you have...
The Olympics, I think, first of all.
My position in the Olympics is that it's a giant scam against the athletes.
The athletes are generating insane wealth and they get none of it.
aaron rodgers
None of it.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
aaron rodgers
Like the top one-tenth of one percent can make any type of money.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then they go out and then maybe the top tenth of one percent, they get endorsement deals and that's where they benefit from winning a gold medal in the Olympics.
Meanwhile, the people that run it, the networks, everybody else...
aaron rodgers
Billions.
joe rogan
Billions of dollars.
But the thing that people want to see, the athletes get none of it.
That is a crazy deal.
aaron rodgers
Especially if you're in a sport that nobody, you know, you're a decathlete.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Exactly.
aaron rodgers
Making no money.
You're a shot putter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Congrats on the gold medal.
Now get your ass back to work.
joe rogan
Nobody gives a fuck who won synchronized swimming.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not getting any money.
But meanwhile, billions of people are watching on television.
There's an immense amount of ad revenue.
And you're not getting a penny.
And it's the only thing that they ever put on TV like that where you don't get a penny.
NBA gets a cut, NFL gets a cut, everybody gets paid.
Everybody gets paid in boxing.
Everybody gets paid in every fucking sport there is.
aaron rodgers
And he's fucking athletes one every four years.
unidentified
Yes.
aaron rodgers
And by the way, you better fucking perform in the trials.
unidentified
Right.
aaron rodgers
You can run the world record.
That year in competition and then go to trials, like a thing Ma did, our 800 runner, and get tripped.
Oh, fuck it.
You missed the Olympics.
joe rogan
And some of these gymnasts who are the best in the world, famous, are poor.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Best in the world at what they do.
Spectacular performances.
The whole world cheers.
We're watching them with bated breath on television.
Pull it off, pull it off.
They stick the landing.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
They get nothing.
Nothing.
It's a dirty, dirty, dirty scam that's been going on for so long people have just accepted it because it started back when there was no money in it.
Because there was no television.
Like when you see Richard, when you see Adolf Hitler just fucking jonesing at the 36 Olympics.
aaron rodgers
Just tripping.
Don't let him beat you.
Don't let him beat you.
joe rogan
He's just whatever the fuck he was on.
That guy was feeling it.
I loved that video.
aaron rodgers
Jesse Owen just fucking torches him.
joe rogan
Yes, then puts up the fist.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, amazing moment in history.
But it's just, that was no money.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Because there was no money.
And then once television rolled in, they didn't say, hey, let's cut these athletes in on this.
We're making billions of dollars now.
Nope.
Nope.
aaron rodgers
They can't even pay for their fucking training.
joe rogan
Exactly.
It's fucking disgusting.
Not only that, you're never going to beat the Cubans and the Russians back then because they were funding everything.
I mean, these people didn't have to worry about how they were going to feed themselves healthy food while they're preparing to box in the Olympics like our guys did.
You know, it's like we...
aaron rodgers
And the Chinese, what they're doing with their athletes, too.
They send them away super early, and then you're in a program for 10 years to prepare.
joe rogan
Especially, like, Russian wrestlers.
Like, what did they do to you?
Karelin.
Karelin, who the photo that I have out in the gyms, my...
Maybe my favorite sports photo of all time, Corellin picking up that 300-pound man like he was nothing.
Like, I pick up a 45-pound kettlebell, he's just fucking, with his grit on his foot, that picture.
Meanwhile, his parents were like 5 '5".
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was 300 pounds and moved like a cat.
aaron rodgers
Natural.
joe rogan
I mean, he didn't even seem like a fucking human.
When you saw him compete in his prime, guys would just flatten out on the ground, try to just protect themselves from being pummeled into the earth over and over again.
He wrestled different than everybody.
Everybody was just trying to take you down.
He was trying to pick you up and slam you repeatedly into the earth, like you getting hit in the head by the world.
And he just did it over and over again until these guys just broke.
I mean, the freak of all freaks.
Look at the fucking musculature on this man.
Totally natural, by the way.
aaron rodgers
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just ate a lot of borscht.
unidentified
Borscht.
joe rogan
Yeah, just eating Russian sausages and what?
aaron rodgers
Beats.
joe rogan
Well, how about those European women athletes, the Eastern Bloc athletes, the women that they set records that still to this day haven't been broken.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, and won't.
joe rogan
I think that's the whole scheme about getting transgender guys to compete in weightlifting.
unidentified
Take back some of those European medals.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, get the Bulgarians.
joe rogan
Who are they letting in the Olympics?
They're letting some trans athletes compete in the Olympics, which is like, okay.
Is that what we're doing?
aaron rodgers
Weren't the boxers, a couple of boxers, fought each other for a goal that were trans?
joe rogan
No, one guy fought a woman.
But it's like a guy with a micropenis, allegedly, and, like, internal testicles.
But went through puberty as a man, looks like a man, the whole deal.
And then did a chromosome test for, allegedly, for a previous boxing organization body.
And it came back XY.
And, like, you're a man.
And then, you know, that was very controversial.
They didn't do that with the Olympics, which they clearly should.
Like, they should do that with all sports.
You know, that's what the Enhanced Games guys are going to do?
You know, the Enhanced Games?
No.
Okay.
The Enhanced Games is a very well-funded idea.
And they're...
aaron rodgers
They call it the Enhanced Games?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They're all going to be on the juice.
They're going to be on the best steroids money can buy.
The best current technology.
All the athletes.
aaron rodgers
Okay.
joe rogan
And they're going to pay them.
When they win, it's like millions of dollars.
So they're putting this together as a huge event.
And they're trying to entice the best athletes in the world to do this safely.
This is the Enhanced Games.
jamie vernon
Update coming, I guess, next week.
joe rogan
So we had the guys on who were the guys who put together this.
And I said, how are you going to deal with trans athletes?
And they were like, I think we're going to do chromosomes.
Which is the right way to do it.
Let's stop.
Fucking around.
You know, just stop pretending that these males that identify as women who win, what is like 700 women were robbed of gold medals across various sports.
Might have been more than that.
Because these biological men pretended to be women and identified as women and dominated in women's sports.
They have a giant advantage.
Stop pretending they don't.
Just stop.
And if you want people to compete, if you still want to compete and you're a woman, you should be protected and only have to compete against other actual biological women.
Period.
End of discussion.
It's not bigoted to say that.
aaron rodgers
The trans women movement is actually anti-woman.
joe rogan
100%.
Especially when it comes to sports, 100%.
aaron rodgers
That's what I mean, sports.
You're not seeing trans men dominating anything.
joe rogan
No.
aaron rodgers
It's because there's a biological difference.
joe rogan
Well, it's also a problem because if you're a trans man, now you have to take testosterone, which is banned.
You can't take it.
So are you going to let them take it and you won't let older athletes take it?
That sounds crazy.
That doesn't make any sense.
So if you get a 39-year-old athlete who has low testosterone, you won't let him take it.
But you let a woman take it to become a man.
Shut the fuck up.
Chromosomes.
That's it.
Double X?
aaron rodgers
Way too much common sense there, Joe.
joe rogan
The idea that that's bigoted is so crazy when there's a demonstrable effect.
Like, you can clearly see that these people that are identifying as women but are actually biological males have massive advantages.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, but the people who you're asking those questions, who are not able to answer whether or not there's a decided advantage, can't even define what a woman is.
joe rogan
Exactly.
But this is this kind of, like, head-in-the-ground mindset is the same thing that you're seeing with COVID vaccines, the same thing you're seeing with pharmaceutical drugs, same thing you're seeing with USAID and government.
aaron rodgers
Cancer.
joe rogan
People just don't want to know.
And also, they feel helpless, right?
So they want to be reinforced and feel better.
Most people that are listening to us right now are living paycheck to paycheck.
Most people.
If you're living paycheck to paycheck, how much are you going to stick your neck out for this?
How much are you going to stick your neck out for anything?
How much are you going to open your mind or open your mouth up about...
All-cause mortalities, all the different things that people are concerned with in the wars.
aaron rodgers
Low birth rates, the exposure to cancer.
joe rogan
Everything that's in the news.
Everything constantly.
How much are you going to stick your neck out?
Most people aren't.
They can't.
They don't have time.
They have family.
They have mortgages.
They're barely getting by.
They're not going to fucking risk everything.
aaron rodgers
And they're being told not to care.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah.
And then they're being shamed if they do care.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want to be the anti-vaxxer at work.
If you say, well, I'm just telling you, I read some scientific papers being broken down by legitimate PhDs online.
They were explaining what the mechanism is that this stuff could cause cancer.
aaron rodgers
Don't do your own research.
joe rogan
Don't do your own research.
aaron rodgers
Do not.
joe rogan
That was my favorite.
That was my favorite.
aaron rodgers
Trust the experts.
joe rogan
I mean, that's like right out of Orwell.
And when it's Brian Stelter saying, all these people, they want to do their own research.
Do your own research.
Why would you ever assume that everyone who listens is dumber than you?
Why would you ever assume?
And if you're an intelligent person and someone says there's medical research papers that you can clearly read that show you results, why can't I understand that?
I can go through college and learn calculus.
I can figure out how to program a computer.
I can figure out all these things.
There's all these things that I can do.
But I can't research this effect that this chemical that I'm introducing to the human body does.
Don't do your own research.
Trust these experts.
You don't trust experts in anything.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Because over time, they're wrong about certain things, and new expertise emerges.
Look, they used to use leaded gasoline.
Should we trust the experts and keep putting lead in gasoline?
They made IQs...
Demonstratably lower.
You can, like, statistically lower in places where people grew up, and I'm one of them, grew up in a place where they, at the time, where they had leaded gasoline.
I probably could have been way smarter when I was a kid.
I was just sniffing fucking leaded gas.
I have a buddy who has a, what he used to, live in New York.
And he was trying to do a garden in his background, his backyard.
But he's a smart dude, so he...
Took soil samples, brought it to university and said, you know, tell me what's wrong with the soil.
It's like it's filled with lead.
All from those days.
From back when everybody had leaded gasoline.
It was just in the air.
Just everybody...
unidentified
Just lead fumes.
joe rogan
Because they didn't want the engines to ping.
We used to have muscle cars back when I was in high school.
If you put unleaded gas in a muscle car, they would run like shit.
Because this was back when you could still buy leaded gas.
Like, when did they make unleaded gas, Jamie?
jamie vernon
The first time?
joe rogan
Yeah, like, when was it introduced?
And when did they ban leaded gas?
That's the better question.
Because everybody was just breathing in this.
aaron rodgers
But the whole point is that...
Things change.
We learn.
joe rogan
We learn some stuff.
And if we're ignoring side effects because we want to keep our head in the sand, that's crazy.
That stops the learning, which we need, which is why we don't do lobotomies anymore.
aaron rodgers
If you're a curious person...
joe rogan
So lead was added to gasoline in the 20s to improve performance, but it was later discovered that it was a pollutant and a neurotoxin.
Okay.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency began phasing out lead in the 1970s.
In 1996, the Clean Air Act banned sale of lead gas.
unidentified
Only in 96?
Yeah.
joe rogan
They wanted to keep making that money, Aaron Rodgers!
So when I was a kid in high school...
aaron rodgers
So they learned in the 70s, and it took them...
joe rogan
26 years.
aaron rodgers
26 years.
unidentified
LOL.
joe rogan
So when I was in high school, because we had carburetors back then, none of those cars had electronic fuel injection, and you bought leaded gas.
And I drove mostly muscle cars through my younger years, so I probably knocked my IQ down quite a few notches.
aaron rodgers
At least three or four points.
joe rogan
I mean, people used to kill themselves in garages.
They would lock themselves in their garage and just let the engine run until they died.
That was the way people committed suicide.
aaron rodgers
Still do?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's the way people do.
I know people who did that.
Like, I don't know them personally, but they're friends of people that I knew.
That they take a hose and attach it to the exhaust pipe and then put it inside the cabin.
And it's a...
aaron rodgers
It's awful.
joe rogan
It's a way that people commit suicide.
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
What is that, carbon monoxide poison?
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah, and we just put that out in the air.
Yeah, but at least it doesn't have lead in it anymore.
aaron rodgers
That's good.
joe rogan
Fucking crazy.
So the point is, like, experts, they don't always catch all the problems with especially novel inventions.
aaron rodgers
And maybe there's some conflicts of interest.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
aaron rodgers
They're being paid to say something.
They're paid to do something.
joe rogan
Imagine they find out it's a neurotoxin in 1970 and they keep using it for 26 years.
aaron rodgers
It's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Well, how else are you going to run all those cars that need leaded gas, Aaron Rodgers?
Come on.
Smarty pants.
aaron rodgers
Water.
joe rogan
Well, that was another thing, right?
The guy who created a water car yelled, they poisoned me!
And then he dies?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
How about that?
joe rogan
How about that?
aaron rodgers
Research gone.
joe rogan
Can you imagine you're some Texas oil guy and you find out about some dipshit in Long Island that figured out a water car?
unidentified
Like, can't we be seeing someone up there to talk to this fella?
joe rogan
Yeah, like, you're realizing your empire is about to collapse in front of your face.
aaron rodgers
And the fact that actually happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
What happened to the water car?
Apparently you drive across the whole country on a tank or something.
aaron rodgers
Where's the trash car?
Like, from Back to the Future.
joe rogan
Right, that's what we need.
aaron rodgers
Why can't we put trash in the old...
joe rogan
Right, the old compactor.
Nuclear fucking engine.
aaron rodgers
Use that as energy, huh?
joe rogan
What is...
That water car guy...
What was the official cause of death?
jamie vernon
Aneurysm.
Stanley Myers is his name.
joe rogan
Yeah, they got him with the old aneurysm gun.
aaron rodgers
There's been a few of those guys, though, who've found some other ways of doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, what a coincidence.
What a coincidence that a guy who develops an engine that runs on three-quarters of the Earth's surface, that everybody has coming out of their tap, that everybody has...
It's everywhere.
You could buy it at the store.
It's in your swimming pool.
You swim in it.
And that could be fuel.
And it would just...
What would it release?
Myst?
Nothing.
aaron rodgers
That makes too much sense.
joe rogan
Probably be good for the environment.
Probably help the trees.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, but climate change.
joe rogan
We're spreading all that mist out there.
Probably help the trees grow.
Be nice.
Be greener.
You know?
aaron rodgers
We'll plant some more trees.
joe rogan
Imagine if that did it and all of a sudden Los Angeles started raining all the time.
This is great.
aaron rodgers
That'd be incredible.
Might actually stay there.
joe rogan
Moisture in the air.
It all comes down as rain.
aaron rodgers
Have you been on Newsom's podcast yet?
joe rogan
I heard it's really good.
He would probably have me on.
I'm not interested.
aaron rodgers
I'd like to be asked.
joe rogan
It's not like I'm opposed to talking to Democratic politicians.
I'll talk to anybody.
But that guy.
Yeah.
Nah.
I'm not interested.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I talked to Fetterman.
I like that guy.
aaron rodgers
Yeah?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
You know, he's really struggling post-stroke.
aaron rodgers
Seems like he's doing a little better.
joe rogan
Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but he has a translator that he carries with him everywhere.
unidentified
Oh, he does?
joe rogan
Yeah, when he's doing the podcast, he has an iPad in front of him.
Sometimes he has lapses of memory, like short-term.
So if you and I were just talking about something, he would forget what we're talking about, so he has to look at the screen.
So sometimes he hears a question, but it doesn't process.
But he's lucid, and he's a very nice guy.
But they're attacking him like crazy now.
aaron rodgers
It's because he has a little bit of common sense.
And he goes, I'm going to weigh each based on their individual merit, not, oh, this is a Democratic issue, this is a Republican issue.
joe rogan
Exactly.
They do not want anybody stepping outside the lines.
aaron rodgers
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's weird, man.
It's weird that people accept it.
aaron rodgers
If you know how the politics work, like, I know we're only 100 and whatever days into this, but after we get through this first year...
Congress ain't meeting the same way.
People who are up for re-election in 2026, they're going to start campaigning here after about three months into the new year.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
aaron rodgers
That's how it works.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
So what's going to happen?
Who's going to be held accountable?
joe rogan
It's going to be interesting.
It's going to be interesting.
It's going to be interesting to see how much money gets spent on these campaigns.
aaron rodgers
What about the new plane that Trump's getting?
joe rogan
Is he still getting it?
Is that real?
I don't know.
Is Qatar was going to give him a 400...
aaron rodgers
Cutter.
unidentified
Cutter.
joe rogan
Is that how you say it?
aaron rodgers
I think so.
joe rogan
Cutter?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cutter.
I've heard it said a bunch of different ways.
Qatar, cutter.
aaron rodgers
I've been corrected many times.
joe rogan
Is it a cutter?
aaron rodgers
I thought it was Qatar.
joe rogan
Oh.
aaron rodgers
Or Qatar.
joe rogan
Let's find out what the real...
aaron rodgers
That's cutter.
Okay.
joe rogan
Like a person who cuts themselves?
aaron rodgers
Yep.
Horizontally.
joe rogan
Okay.
Well, I'm wrong then.
I thought it was Qatar.
But either way, they were going to give him a $400 million jet, which is like, I want to know, first of all, what's a $400 million jet?
unidentified
So do I. Qatar.
joe rogan
Qatar.
unidentified
Qatar.
aaron rodgers
Okay.
Then all those people that fucking corrected me.
joe rogan
Can we hear, yeah, what the fuck, can we hear a person from Qatar say it?
See, Google person from Qatar pronouncing how to say it.
I bet you there's a video on YouTube, because it's a controversial one.
I bet you there's a video.
aaron rodgers
Big controversy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it is now.
Theo is just there.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, he was talking with the troops.
jamie vernon
Or CNN, or this one.
joe rogan
That one.
Try that one right there, correctly.
unidentified
We are looking at how to pronounce this name as well as how to say more interesting but often confusing country names and names from geography.
So make sure to stay tuned to the channel.
So how do you say it?
Well, officially in Arabic it is to be said Qatar.
Qatar.
Easy, right?
In English it is generally accepted that it is said as Qatar.
Qatar.
But Qatar.
joe rogan
Okay, so it is Kata.
It's like Fedor Emelianenko.
His real name is Fyodor.
But we go, yeah.
aaron rodgers
Fedor.
joe rogan
Tighten that up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Qatar.
We like Qatar, sir.
aaron rodgers
There's a lot of wild names on the UFC you guys gotta...
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
aaron rodgers
Do you ever forget when you're out there doing interviews, like...
joe rogan
Yeah, there's struggles.
Yeah.
Some of them are rough, you know?
I fucked up Umar Nurmagomedov's name once, but that was just because...
I knew his name.
I knew how to say it.
It's just my mouth didn't work right.
aaron rodgers
Ladies and gentlemen, Umar!
joe rogan
Yeah, I just fucked it up.
But that's just...
There's a lot of these, like, Russian and Dagestan names that are really, like, Zabit Magomed Sharapirov.
Yeah.
That one is crazy, you know?
There's a bunch of crazy ones.
aaron rodgers
You in the hotel room, Miss Braxton?
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to.
I get them.
What happens is before the weigh-ins, sometimes I've never seen a guy fight before.
They're new to the UFC.
So then I have to find them online and watch some of their fights online.
And then even then, there's discrepancies in how to say the name.
And so we have to get it from them.
And then they have little recordings where the fighter will say their name.
And they're like, Jesus Christ.
Play it back again.
What is the vowels he's using?
What is this?
You know?
Some of them, Shavkat Rachmanov.
Like, wow, Shavkat Rachmanov.
aaron rodgers
Huh?
joe rogan
Okay.
You know, there's some rough ones.
Yeah, it's generally like the Russian ones are the more difficult ones.
It's just, it's weird where parts of the world develop ways of sounding that other parts, like if you, like...
The way they talk in Japan versus Germany.
You know, it's like...
You know, it's like weird little Spanish now.
Like Brazil, it's almost like a sing-songy, the way they say...
You know, the way they talk about it.
aaron rodgers
Italian, too, yeah.
joe rogan
Yes, Italian is very, very sing-songy.
You know, it's weird.
Different parts of the world just decide, like, no, we're going to be fucking stoic with the way we say things.
And then you go to Italy, it's like they're all drunk.
unidentified
Like...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun.
They're having a good time.
And the colder the climate, the harsher the sounds, the harsher the words.
aaron rodgers
Hard people.
joe rogan
Yeah, hard people.
Vikings.
The worst time I've ever had trying to understand people that are speaking English was in Belfast.
We were in Northern Ireland for UFC, and me and this dude from Belfast got drunk at this bar.
And I remember he just kept saying, "I'll fight any man." He just kept repeating.
He wasn't even a big guy.
I'm like, "I believe you." We're all getting hammered.
That was back in the day when I could get drunk with locals.
aaron rodgers
Can't do it anymore?
joe rogan
No.
See, Theo Vaughn got in an altercation in Nashville yesterday?
aaron rodgers
No.
joe rogan
Or a couple days ago?
Yeah, some guy was fucking with him for some viral video and Theo grabbed it by the neck and pushed him away.
aaron rodgers
Has Theo been training?
He's been doing some jiu-jitsu training?
joe rogan
I don't believe so.
I believe it's probably a bad move.
You never know who you're grabbing.
But the guy was just doing it to get a rise out of Theo.
He's fucking with him.
aaron rodgers
That's the tough part about being in public.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Back then I wasn't so famous.
I could go around.
So it was fun.
aaron rodgers
No one ever tried to fuck with you when you were out?
joe rogan
Nah.
They're all friendly.
Most of the people who know me are nice.
Who know of me.
It's like every now and then I'll get a side eye from my blue hair.
You know?
aaron rodgers
Wearing a mask.
Hey, take your mask down.
I can't understand you.
Take your mask down.
joe rogan
People that think that I helped Trump, that's where it really ramped up.
Before the Trump thing, people didn't bother me.
aaron rodgers
Oh, the Kamala stuff about what a moron to not come on the show.
joe rogan
Well, Pierre didn't come on either from Canada.
I offered to have him on as well.
His people didn't want him coming on.
His people apparently thought that it was a bad idea for him to come on the show.
aaron rodgers
Well, I mean, I think anybody with a brain knows that Trump coming on here had a big sway on the election.
joe rogan
I think Trump is a unique individual, though.
If you talk to a politician that only does well with canned questions and with speeches that were written in advance by skillful people, Trump famously rants.
To have that ability to go up in front of 15,000 people and just have a rough outline of what you're going to talk about.
And so I said to him!
When he's doing Biden, wandering around, not knowing where he's going.
Bro, he's doing stand-up.
And he has a set.
And he's doing this set to arenas all over the place.
Everybody else has a script.
Everybody else is reading off a teleprompter.
Everybody else...
Has to know what they're going to be asked in advance.
aaron rodgers
I mean, Biden famously had the questions and who to call on and what the answer was supposed to be on that little note card that got multiple times exposed.
joe rogan
Would you like to take whatever they gave him before the debate?
aaron rodgers
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
I bet it's awesome.
I bet it's like that shit from that Bradley Cooper movie.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
unidentified
Where all of a sudden you start seeing numbers in front of you and you're like...
I think I got it.
joe rogan
I think I can do the debate.
Because every other time, he's barely coherent.
aaron rodgers
Well, that and an earpiece, he did pretty well.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was probably some way of communicating with him, for sure.
I mean, I don't know why they would risk it.
Kamala had some weird earrings.
Remember those earrings?
And the company that made those blue teeth earrings was kind of taking credit for it?
aaron rodgers
Yeah, nothing to see here.
I just think it's funny.
Now there's the one guy on CNN wrote a book about Biden's cognitive decline.
He was like one of the biggest proponents of like, no, he's sharp as ever, sharp as a tack.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know why they thought they could write that.
aaron rodgers
But it was all fucking theater.
Do a debate before anyone's ever done a debate.
Let him go up there without his drugs, without his uppers, without his earpiece.
Trump's response to some of those...
I don't know what you said, but...
joe rogan
I don't think he does either.
I don't know what you said!
aaron rodgers
I was laughing at going, what the fuck is this?
unidentified
I don't think he does either.
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
And then they just fucking move him out of the way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How about...
We beat Medicaid.
And they cut the time off like, oh my god, what are you doing?
You guys set them up.
But it was so bad for the Democratic Party.
Because if they were just honest about that and then had a primary, I just don't think he wanted to step down.
And Jill didn't want to step down.
aaron rodgers
No, Jill.
Jill didn't.
joe rogan
He's as sharp as ever!
I remember she did the one thing afterwards where he got done.
You answered all the questions!
You answered all the questions!
unidentified
So good!
joe rogan
If my wife said that to me, I'd be like, what did they give you?
aaron rodgers
Are you high?
joe rogan
What the fuck are you talking about?
Of course I answered all the questions.
aaron rodgers
She just answered the questions for him on The View as well.
joe rogan
That was even better!
Like, Dr. Jill's on here.
aaron rodgers
I thought you did such a great job.
You were such a great president.
joe rogan
Is she a doctor, like a medical doctor?
Or is she like a PhD?
aaron rodgers
She's like me.
She's got an honorary degree.
joe rogan
No.
No.
aaron rodgers
No, she probably is.
joe rogan
I think she has a real one, right?
But that doctor thing is very sneaky.
We should need a different distinction.
It should be PhD, which is very impressive.
You should be able to say, I'm PhD Aaron Rodgers.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you have to say, I'm Dr. Aaron Rodgers, right?
Have you had a real PhD in something?
aaron rodgers
I think I'd say PhD.
joe rogan
Right, but would you introduce yourself like that?
That sounds gross.
But saying Dr. Rogers is like, oh, Dr. Jill.
aaron rodgers
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's his doctor.
You're a doctor.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, doctor.
joe rogan
They used to call it Cosby, Dr. Cosby.
aaron rodgers
Why?
joe rogan
A lot of people call it because he got an honorary.
I'm just putting this out there.
I'll speak at university if you give me an honorary.
I want to be Dr. Rogan.
I think it would be fun.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
It would be fun.
aaron rodgers
People already think you are after your COVID comments.
joe rogan
Well, I had a good doctor, actually.
I got a good real doctor that gave me good advice.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, how about that?
joe rogan
Oh, what a weird world we live in.
aaron rodgers
Can't believe we're here.
joe rogan
But what is Dr. Jill?
jamie vernon
In 2007, at age 55, she got a doctor of education from Delaware, I think.
joe rogan
Damn it, 55. Congrats.
That's kind of wild.
I wonder if she did it just to be a doctor.
Like, I just really want that name.
aaron rodgers
I think this is going to look good when Joe's the president.
joe rogan
Yeah, Dr. Jill.
Didn't Joe beat her when she was like 15?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
But when Biden was talking about his handicap to Trump...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
aaron rodgers
I'll play you if you...
You gotta carry your own bag, though.
Shut the fuck up.
You gotta carry your own bag.
You're an eight handicap, Joe.
joe rogan
He falls down going upstairs.
That's so rare.
It's so rare that people fall down going upstairs.
You're gonna beat Trump at golf?
Trump is actually really good at golf.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, he wins his club tournaments.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is crazy.
Like, you're playing with, like, real golfers.
Like, he's apparently a really good golfer.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what is his golf handicap?
aaron rodgers
I think he's definitely a single digit.
joe rogan
But that's a crazy thing to say for Biden.
Biden also said he would kick his ass.
I'd kick his ass.
Yeah.
unidentified
I'd take him out to the woodshed.
joe rogan
It was a fun time to watch.
aaron rodgers
Remember when he told that worker, some sort of steel mill or something, I'll punch you in the face or something?
joe rogan
He called him a dog-faced, what is it, a pony-faced liar?
What the fuck did he say?
aaron rodgers
Dog-faced.
joe rogan
Pony-faced dog soldier?
Something like that?
A pony-faced dog soldier?
I don't remember what the phrase was.
aaron rodgers
Fucking neck sniffer.
joe rogan
But it was fascinating.
It was fascinating watching people run cover for him.
You know?
Yeah.
That really damaged the Democrat Party that they let them do that.
Because imagine if they had a real primary, like a real one.
aaron rodgers
Do you think Bobby would have a chance?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
aaron rodgers
I think so too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
100%.
Especially if they let him talk.
Especially if they let him present some of the information that everybody's saying he's a kook.
Let me present this to you.
And he's so calm.
Because he's been doing this for so long, he doesn't get emotional, which is a real trap.
When you're accused of being a kook and you get emotional, it's a real trap.
aaron rodgers
Or super defensive.
joe rogan
Yeah, super defensive, and he doesn't do that.
aaron rodgers
And I thought he was great in the sessions of Congress when he was trying to...
What do they call that when they're...
Asking him all those questions and trying to fucking pin him down when he's nominated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
I thought he was great.
joe rogan
No, he's great.
But he's a brilliant guy.
And if he didn't have this voice issue, it would be a shoo-in.
I mean, he would be...
aaron rodgers
He would have won.
joe rogan
He would have won.
He would have been the next president.
Like, I'm not bullshitting.
If the Democratic Party allowed him...
They had no gatekeeping and allowed a real primary, and Bobby got in, and Bobby didn't have a voice problem, and he had the intellect that he has, and the background that he has.
And the history of environmental protection that he has.
I mean, he was an environmental attorney that literally helped clean up the East River.
He stopped these companies from poisoning the environment.
aaron rodgers
And that's my problem with the entire Democratic Party, is that just because Trump won, and Elon is working for him, and Bobby's working for him, and insert anybody's put in his cabinet, all the good shit that they're doing.
The billions that Elon has found of just fraud and corruption and bullshit.
Bobby's saying, hey, let's just look at these vaccines.
Let's look at the efficacy.
Let's do real safety tests on these.
Like all the common sense shit that's going on right now by the cabinet members, dissolving the Department of Education, all the different things they're doing.
Like if it's good for the country, if it's common sense good for the country.
Why are we not on fucking board with this?
joe rogan
It doesn't mean you shouldn't criticize the bad stuff, but if you criticize everything or if you ignore all the good stuff, then no one is going to listen to you.
You can't do that.
It's like if you have an enemy, if I have an enemy, I don't have any enemies, but if I had one and he was really good at something, I'd be like, I think he's a piece of shit, but I'll tell you what, he's fucking talented.
Like this thing that he does, he's really good at it.
That's just fact.
It just is what it is.
And if you think someone's doing, if they're on the wrong party in your eyes, but they're doing something good, you go, "Look, I think that's good.
I think this is important.
It's good for everybody." Like, it has nothing to do with parties.
It should have nothing to do.
There's something that a person that you don't like who's in office, and they pass a bill, and that bill benefits us all.
We should all celebrate.
And the fact that we don't is nuts.
The fact that no one cared that Elon brought those fucking people back from space.
The guy's a fucking hero for that.
And any other time in history, any other time in history, the super genius sent a fucking rocket to go rescue the people that were trapped in orbit because NASA couldn't.
They couldn't.
aaron rodgers
And if he'd done it in 2016 when Obama was in there, it would have been fucking great.
joe rogan
It would have been great.
And the...
Could have done it while Biden was in office.
But they wouldn't let him do it because politically it would look like a victory for Trump because Elon supports Trump.
So they left those people up there.
aaron rodgers
That's fucking wrong.
joe rogan
It's evil.
It's evil.
It shouldn't be a political thing.
aaron rodgers
96% of the articles about Elon are bad.
joe rogan
96%.
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
You're attacking one of the smartest guys in the country who literally is spending part of his time trying to fucking clean up the government efficiency and waste and corruption and fraud.
joe rogan
And there was a comparison to 96% of something else that was all good that might not be good.
See if you can find one with that comparison.
aaron rodgers
Talking about Pelosi's stock trades or something?
joe rogan
You don't hear a peep out of that.
There's no media stories except Fox.
aaron rodgers
Wasn't there a bill that was put out there that was trying to stop the Pelosi bill?
joe rogan
They were called the Pelosi bill.
aaron rodgers
Didn't fucking make it, huh?
joe rogan
I love the one time when she gets asked during a press briefing.
unidentified
It's like, what?
joe rogan
I think we should participate.
aaron rodgers
There's no conflict of interest.
joe rogan
She pushes the mic away.
unidentified
She's four winds in going, what are they talking?
joe rogan
Stock trading.
I don't even know what they're talking about.
aaron rodgers
I can't even believe they would bring this up.
joe rogan
I mean, that's something that Elon has said we should investigate.
All of them.
aaron rodgers
Because it's on both sides.
joe rogan
On both sides.
aaron rodgers
It's on both sides.
joe rogan
It is on both sides.
aaron rodgers
100%.
joe rogan
100%.
That's something that maybe we could have bipartisan support for.
You know, there's some bipartisan things that people support.
One of them is the new Ibogaine research, which is wonderful.
Past the first step in Texas.
Good.
The Ibogaine, and they're going to do PTSD for soldiers, veterans.
That has bipartisan support.
I love when something has bipartisan support.
That should do.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The Elon stuff should be like, look what he's done.
aaron rodgers
We should be championing it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Okay, you don't like his politics.
Fine.
joe rogan
Right.
aaron rodgers
You loved it before.
You loved it.
Green cars and electric cars and shit.
joe rogan
Right.
aaron rodgers
It's all so kooky.
Until he fucking won the election for Trump.
And now he's running Trump and he's running the government.
Look at his kid on Trump's lap and blah blah blah blah.
joe rogan
I think as soon as he got the Twitter files and he found out what the government was doing, he was like, whoa.
Imagine you have so much money that you could actually buy a conspiracy.
You could find the answer.
Because that's what it is.
It's like the only time in history...
aaron rodgers
That's what Epstein's Island would have been if we could...
unidentified
We still wouldn't have gotten anything out except listening devices.
joe rogan
I bet they're everywhere.
They would have to gut the walls.
They would probably gut...
If they sold to us, they'd probably gut the walls.
aaron rodgers
No, as is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
As is.
No contingencies?
Just as is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean...
aaron rodgers
There's other islands, though.
joe rogan
That's...
I bet there is, right?
aaron rodgers
You're going to ask your buddy Alex about it probably.
I bet he knows.
joe rogan
Black helicopters take him over to the island.
aaron rodgers
You're so good.
joe rogan
That's the only impression I could do.
Alex looks good, man.
aaron rodgers
He lost some weight.
He looks good.
joe rogan
Dude, he looks fucking great.
My friend Sean's training him.
aaron rodgers
Nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's been working with him every day.
He makes him work out.
Come on, we're doing it.
Come on.
Let me check my Twitter real quick.
See how my engagement's doing.
Elon didn't allow him to put Infowars on Twitter, too.
He puts all his shows on Twitter.
And they got millions and millions of views.
And guess what?
He's right.
All the fucking time.
All the fucking time.
And they just want Sandy Hook and Sandy Hook.
No one even knows who did Sandy Hook.
You ask the average person, Sandy Hook, that connected to Alex Jones.
They don't even know the guy who was the actual murderer.
And here's my question.
How does one get bad information about that?
And how much that bad information is fed to a guy like him so that he repeats it, so that you could trap him and then you accuse him of it?
aaron rodgers
Well, he's been right so many times about some of the other things.
joe rogan
They got him with that one.
They got him with that one.
aaron rodgers
But I mean, that's what I mean, because he's been right so many times, you gotta shut him up.
joe rogan
It's a way.
I mean, it's certainly...
And then Ocelot, he was like...
He was going through it during that time.
He was drinking way, way, way too much.
He was drinking all day.
Imagine you're in a job where you're uncovering things that nobody else knows all the time.
All the time.
aaron rodgers
That's a lot of pressure.
joe rogan
There's no way you can research all of it down to the bone either.
And when someone sends you videos that have been doctored or someone tries to tell you they're using crisis actors, that's a classic one.
I don't doubt that.
I don't doubt that there have been times where the government was trying to promote some sort of a narrative and maybe they did something that went sideways and then they brought in some people to pretend that they saw something that didn't happen or they described something in a way that wasn't true or accurate.
I think the government would definitely do that.
They've done so much.
aaron rodgers
They've done so much.
Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwoods.
joe rogan
The idea that they wouldn't have people.
But I don't think that would work anymore.
It's tough, too.
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Because you can't control Joe Concerned Citizen on the street with her phone out.
joe rogan
Too many people have phones.
It's like that fucking ship has left the harbor.
You're not doing that anymore.
I don't think.
Unless...
Unless you're using, like, super sophisticated makeup techniques, which they also have.
aaron rodgers
See some of those masks that people can put on?
They look...
joe rogan
Insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Insane.
Especially in nighttime situations, like outdoor nighttime situations.
Like, there's no...
You could be...
aaron rodgers
Couldn't tell the difference.
joe rogan
No way.
Those masks are insane.
They're so...
See if you can find some of them CIA masks.
And by the way, this is just the shit they show you.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're telling me they don't have more advanced stuff now?
aaron rodgers
Well, that's what I'm saying about the propulsion systems that they have.
And your guy was saying that stuff, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Half the stuff in the sky is probably ours.
joe rogan
Or someone else's.
That's the scary thing.
The scary thing is China.
aaron rodgers
Well, the scary thing, I was living in New Jersey last year when the drone stuff was going on.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
Did you see him?
aaron rodgers
I saw a drone, a military-style drone, silent drone above.
It flew right over my car.
joe rogan
It was silent?
aaron rodgers
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You made no noise?
aaron rodgers
No noise.
joe rogan
Did you open the window and get out of the car?
aaron rodgers
Yes, the window was, I was leaning my head out, looking up at it, and it was probably 50 yards or less up in the sky, and it flew right over my car.
And I'd sit in my backyard at night and see a lot of weird shit in the skies.
joe rogan
What did it look like?
aaron rodgers
That one looked like a military-style drone.
joe rogan
Oh, like one of those ones that shoots the rockets out of them?
aaron rodgers
It was more like the size of this room, end-to-end.
joe rogan
Wow.
aaron rodgers
Actually less, probably three-quarters of the size of it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And so it looked like the standard military drone, but it was silent.
aaron rodgers
Yep.
And it flew right...
I was trying to point at the cars behind me to look up at it, because it was going nuts.
Everybody was talking about it.
I had coaches who'd seen them over at their house, different ones.
Most of them they were seeing were military-style ones, but there was a lot of people and a lot of stuff I saw in the sky that didn't look like military stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mark Norman.
aaron rodgers
And then they weren't saying shit about it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
They had some briefing and the New Jersey governor comes out and goes, you know, something's going on here.
They won't tell us what's going on.
I ran off the coast and blah, blah.
And then Trump said, oh, we know what it is.
But nobody ever said what it was.
And then it stopped.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
And there was theories they were looking for some sort of missing missile, and there was this and that.
That's creepy.
joe rogan
Well, I was really worried about that.
The transfer of power would have been interrupted if there was some sort of a nuclear explosion.
There's ways to...
aaron rodgers
And there are a lot of people thinking that something might happen.
joe rogan
Well, that was...
Look, they tried to kill him.
Somebody tried to kill him.
aaron rodgers
Twice.
joe rogan
And the one, yeah, but the one that where the kid on the roof, that one's nuts.
And that is, you want to be a conspiracy theorist?
Start with that one.
aaron rodgers
They can't control Joe Concerned Citizen on the side, who's like, hey, there's a guy up there.
There's a guy up there.
joe rogan
Not only that.
aaron rodgers
90 seconds before it happened.
joe rogan
They can't control the internet sleuths that have tracked a phone from outside where the area of the FBI office to this guy's place.
aaron rodgers
Yep.
joe rogan
Multiple times, back and forth.
They can't track how his fucking apartment was professionally scrubbed.
Where there's no silverware?
There's nothing there?
No hard drives?
No laptops?
He doesn't have social media?
aaron rodgers
And if he doesn't turn his head 90 degrees?
joe rogan
How do you get radicalized without being on social media?
I want to know that.
How do you even get so politically responsible at 20 years old?
aaron rodgers
So what is it?
joe rogan
How'd you get that BlackRock commercial, Billy?
aaron rodgers
Is it a continuance of the MKUltra stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
I would think.
I don't know.
I'm talking out of my ass.
But if I had a guess, I think you can do that.
I think, listen, for all the conversations that I've had with people that are mind control experts, including earlier this week, Rebecca Lemov, I think...
Not only have they tried to do that since the 1950s, but they've successfully done it to certain people, certain individuals.
They've successfully manipulated people.
I think they did it with the Manson family.
And I don't think that stuff just ends.
aaron rodgers
The Chaos book was awesome.
joe rogan
Incredible.
aaron rodgers
Great book.
And you had him on here.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think that ended.
Why would they end that if it's effective?
They would just be more secretive about it.
Just like they're probably super secretive about these propulsion systems.
I mean, it's like we want to pretend that the government works for us.
We want to pretend.
Like, there are representatives, but clearly there's all this money flowing around and all these people that have power and secrecy.
And Kennedy railed about it in the 1960s and they shot him in the head.
aaron rodgers
Speaking of that, that whole thing, because that's what got me into questioning things.
And then they roll out, what, four or five internet-influenced people to give them some notebook or some shit, like they actually release some information about the Kennedy files, and it's literally a heavily redacted pile of nothingness.
joe rogan
My question about that is, if you're going to shoot Kennedy, you're not going to write it down.
I don't think we're going to find anything.
I didn't think we were going to find anything that's like, "We did it.
We were in the grassy knoll and we hired these assassins and here's their pay stubs." What I thought it would be is maybe we would find out some information about who Lee Harvey Oswald was actually working for.
Maybe we would find out how he was able to defect to Russia and then come back to America.
How he got in the school book depository and nobody, like, they don't do a security run of the area where the Secret Service checks to see where the vulnerabilities would be.
They do that kind of stuff.
Why would you put him in an open convertible when you have, like, multiple places where people can hide?
It seems like they killed him.
aaron rodgers
And the Zapruder film.
joe rogan
So I think they killed, like, somebody asked me this the other night on stage.
It was one of those bottom-of-the-barrel questions.
Would you, if you could find out who killed JFK or if aliens are real?
I'm like, aliens?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I'm pretty sure I know who killed JFK.
Like, I'm pretty sure our government was involved and I'm pretty sure the mob was probably involved and I've been a bunch of fucking really pissed off guys.
aaron rodgers
And the FBI over-hated the Kennedys?
joe rogan
Yeah, and then the...
Bay of Pigs went down, and a lot of pissed off.
aaron rodgers
And Dulles' whereabouts, him getting fired, Dulles' connection, all the way back to the OSS, to the Bush family.
joe rogan
A lot of people wanted JFK dead.
A lot of people wanted that.
aaron rodgers
Silver standard.
joe rogan
That to me makes sense.
The alien thing makes...
If the JFK thing was a total mystery, still I would say the alien thing, because he's dead, he died in 63, there's nothing you can do about that.
I want to know what's going on.
So do I. That's what I want to know.
That's my number one thing.
I want to know what is going on.
Because I think something's going on.
I don't think it's nothing.
unidentified
I think it's coming.
joe rogan
Some of it is ours.
I think some of it is not.
And I think we probably have been in contact with things.
aaron rodgers
Since at least the 40s, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Maybe even before that.
aaron rodgers
What about, one thing we haven't, it's slightly related to that, but how about Millie releasing the files in Argentina about Hitler going out there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
Is that confirmed?
That Hitler did live in...
He survived?
aaron rodgers
There's a ton of German Nazi stuff in Argentina.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, Tim Kennedy went down there for a television show called Finding Hitler.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, I remember that.
joe rogan
You go down there, they have Oktoberfest.
There's towns where they all wear lederhosen and they all fucking speak German.
aaron rodgers
But we also know that there was at least five or six Hitlers.
Like, he had multiple body doubles.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
that once cranked out, but he had that idea.
He's sitting there going, I want to make fucking more of me.
Can we clone me yet?
We're just going to fucking clone me.
aaron rodgers
Hey, uh, Goebbels, can we get rid of this, uh, cracked out Hitler here?
He's, uh, he's making us look bad.
joe rogan
And who would have ever thought that in 2025 Kanye has it in a song?
aaron rodgers
My God.
joe rogan
What is the next crazy thing that's going to explode in the news?
Is Bill Clinton going to have an OnlyFans?
What is going to happen?
What is the next thing that's going to make us all go, what the fuck?
What the fuck is going on?
aaron rodgers
It's coming.
joe rogan
How many guys were on video saying, ain't no party like a Diddy party?
How many people, like, openly talked about being there?
aaron rodgers
LeBron?
joe rogan
Yeah, Ashton Kutcher, all these people.
Like, you guys all went.
You didn't see nothing?
You didn't see nothing?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Donnell.
joe rogan
Donnell went?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
Did he?
joe rogan
Of course he did.
aaron rodgers
Donnell who?
jamie vernon
Trying to defend himself.
joe rogan
Is he really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is he trying to defend himself right now?
jamie vernon
It's pretty funny.
joe rogan
I gotta call him up.
Donnell, you gotta back away from that.
aaron rodgers
Isn't there a video with Kamala?
joe rogan
She was at one of the Diddy parties?
aaron rodgers
Isn't she in the background with...
joe rogan
It might have been the difference between Diddy parties and freak-offs.
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
They're giving shit, too, because he's sitting in his...
aaron rodgers
Oh, the guy from Chappelle's show?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then Dave's there, too, and then Russell Simmons, too.
Oh, boy.
But is that at a party, or is that just a group of them together?
jamie vernon
They were, like, on a yacht or something like that.
joe rogan
Okay, but that's not the Diddy parties.
jamie vernon
No, yeah, yeah, it's not like they were at...
joe rogan
I think.
aaron rodgers
Do you think Diddy was rogue or Diddy was like an Epstein type to work for somebody?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Well, it would be a great way to compromise celebrities and get them to say whatever you want them to do, get them to do whatever projects you'd like them to do.
And, you know, if you're a bunch of other celebrities that are there, you're like, oh, look, Bill Clinton's here.
This is fine.
This is cool.
Look at this.
Like, Brad Pitt's here.
Well, this is cool.
You don't even think there's anything wrong with being there.
I mean, why are you getting drugged up and filmed?
And then they're passing out punch.
Have some punch, Aaron.
And you have some punch and all of a sudden you're like, I'm feeling really good.
I just feel amazing.
You're all mollied up.
You don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Probably a combination of things they give you.
aaron rodgers
And it's all being filmed.
joe rogan
Crazy.
Now, if that's not an intelligence agency operation, it's just one fucking evil super genius who figures out how to compromise everybody by providing this crazy freak-off party.
Everybody's got to put their phones away.
Okay, we're going to put our phone away.
No one's going to know anything.
Yeah, it means we're going to get cameras everywhere.
It's just one guy doing that.
What a diabolical human being.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
He seems pretty diabolical.
aaron rodgers
He's probably working with somebody.
Or for somebody.
joe rogan
Maybe.
aaron rodgers
And maybe he just got too far out there.
joe rogan
Some of the shit that came out in the trial, like he's forcing his girlfriend to have sex with prostitutes while he was sitting there jacking off with a bandana on.
She'd rub the jizz on his nipples.
Like, what are we even talking about?
aaron rodgers
But what's he going to go away for?
Like, what's the charge?
unidentified
Good question.
aaron rodgers
Is it kidnapping or is it false imprisonment?
unidentified
I don't think he's even being charged for beating her up.
joe rogan
Like, the video of him beating her up?
He's not even getting in charge for that.
Megyn Kelly said that.
aaron rodgers
Who's got all the videos?
joe rogan
Yeah, what's in the videos?
What's that about?
I mean, what would happen?
aaron rodgers
We need Candace to do a deep dive.
joe rogan
If we got videos of thousands of celebrities just butt-fucking each other and sucking dicks and taking Molly and guys are passing them around, like...
Columbus pleaded not guilty to the new superseding indictment which added two charges to bring the total to five.
He's charged with racketeering, conspiracy, transportation to engage in prostitution, and sex trafficking.
So he's not being charged with the assault.
aaron rodgers
The sex trafficking is the worst.
joe rogan
But he could get charged with it in the future.
It's not like they can't charge him with more stuff.
aaron rodgers
That's what needs it.
joe rogan
Alleged to use threats, force, and coercion to get victims to engage in sex acts once allegedly dangling a victim over an apartment balcony, according to prosecutors.
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
He said he's been poisoned three times.
joe rogan
Okay, ex-DD Bodyguard says, witnesses went missing before trial, said he was poisoned three times.
Did you find the cyanide thing?
But if you put it in...
aaron rodgers
Oh, it's right there.
It says, I've been poisoned three times.
Toxology report showed cyanide.
joe rogan
Whoa!
Cyanide metabolizes into pneumonia in your body.
So I've had pneumonia on three occasions, he claimed.
aaron rodgers
Big homie.
joe rogan
Big homie.
These problems didn't start for me until I started to speak out about people like this.
You know it's been...
Hard time to line up this interview because the last time I was scheduled to be in this interview randomly our car got hit from the side By a blacked-out vehicle with no license plate that happened three times this month so far Somebody didn't want me to do this interview like holy shit Whoa But put it into grok Cyanide poisoning pneumonia because I think it's not just him saying that or this article saying that I think that's that's a real thing Do we like Grok?
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I mean, I think all of them are dependent upon the information that's out.
aaron rodgers
The danger is that people are only, like, if I'm on X and there'll be a story, the comments underneath are all saying, is this true, at Grok?
joe rogan
Right, right.
And Grok jumps in.
aaron rodgers
But, like, who's putting the information into Grok?
joe rogan
Well, Grok's getting the information from the entirety, I believe, of the internet.
And some of the entirety of the internet is lies.
And official lies, like that have been accepted as truth by organizations.
So that's a problem.
Says these are rare and indirect connections.
There's no evidence that cyanide itself causes the infectious inflammatory process characteristic of pneumonia.
If you are asking about a specific case or context, occupational exposure, a medical scenario, or historical incident, feel free to provide more details.
And I can tailor the answer further.
What is the question?
How did you prompt it?
Does cyanide poisoning lead to pneumonia?
Not directly.
Could you give someone pneumonia by poisoning them with cyanide?
How about that?
Could you give someone pneumonia by poisoning them with cyanide?
aaron rodgers
Good spelling, Jamie.
joe rogan
He's got one hand.
aaron rodgers
No, I was impressed by your pneumonia.
joe rogan
Double with.
Grock will know you're dumb.
Directly causing pneumonia by poisoning someone with cyanide is unlikely.
Cyanide doesn't create an infectious or inflammatory condition typically associated with pneumonia.
Cyanide poisoning rapidly disrupts cellular oxygen use, leading to symptoms like respiratory distress, seizures, or unconsciousness, but it doesn't produce pathogens or cause lung inflammation characteristic of pneumonia.
aaron rodgers
They could get hospital-acquired pneumonia, it says.
joe rogan
Aspiration pneumonia.
If cyanide poisoning causes unconsciousness or seizures, the person might aspirate vomit or saliva into their lungs.
This can induce bacteria or irritants potentially leading to the aspiration pneumonia, a non-infectious form of the condition.
So that's possible.
And then secondary complications.
The victim survives initial cyanide poisoning but requires prolonged hospitalization.
Mechanical ventilation or intensive care could develop hospital-acquired pneumonia or ventilator-associated pneumonia due to exposure to pathogens or weakened defenses.
That's another darkness about the fucking COVID.
aaron rodgers
The ventilator?
joe rogan
How many people got killed by ventilators?
aaron rodgers
The percentage is super high.
People don't want to ventilate.
joe rogan
They blew their lungs out.
It's crazy.
aaron rodgers
I haven't heard any apology about that.
joe rogan
That's weird.
Well, I think that's why they removed Cuomo.
That and the fucking nursing home.
aaron rodgers
He's running the end now, isn't he?
joe rogan
He's going to be the mayor this time.
aaron rodgers
Mayor.
That's what it is, yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe it'll be good.
Maybe we'll do a good job this time.
Maybe he learned his lesson.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, I'm sure.
joe rogan
I mean, he's anti-establishment now, right?
Because the establishment doesn't want him there.
aaron rodgers
Well, his brother as well, supposedly.
joe rogan
Well, his brother got kicked off with CNN.
So, there you go.
I mean, they're both kind of on, you know, the establishment kind of abandoned them.
aaron rodgers
Are they getting red-pilled?
joe rogan
I don't know.
You know, it's like when you're, if you're a guy who's on CNN and you're spouting that propaganda for years and then you decide, I'm not doing that anymore, I'm going to be like you guys.
Like, really?
What about all the stuff you said that's not true, like all those times?
Do you own up to it?
And it doesn't, right?
You saw the Dave Smith debate.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
He doesn't.
Doesn't own up to it.
He thinks it's more complex.
It's more nuanced.
aaron rodgers
I thought Dave did great in that.
I thought Dave did great when you had the other guy on here.
joe rogan
Dave's a monster.
Yeah.
People think, oh, he's a comic.
He's not.
aaron rodgers
He's a little more than that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, that guy's a voracious reader and he retains information.
aaron rodgers
I love when you do the voice of...
What's the other guy's name who was on there?
unidentified
Douglas.
aaron rodgers
It's so condescending.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's one of his gifts.
You know, it's like, what was I talking about with Dave?
What were we talking about?
Oh, the Cuomo thing.
Yeah, it's like, you gotta be square with people.
You know, if you want people to trust you, you have to say that you fucked up.
And if you can't say you fucked up, they're never gonna trust you.
If you're always right, they're not gonna believe you.
There's no one's always right and there's a lot of times you get things wrong.
We thought you were right and you can explain why you thought you were right and Then people get it and they go.
Oh, well, he'll tell the truth and if you don't do that, you can't do this because this is what it's like once you've experienced someone that is not being directed to say certain things and Is completely open about it and just a human being like you and I just humans out there in the world trying to Make some fucking sense out of this shit.
Bullshitters won't work.
It's not going to work.
You don't resonate.
You'll get a certain amount of people that pay attention to you.
There's a certain amount.
It'll never really catch on because you're a bullshitter.
And you can't be a bullshitter and a truth teller at the same time.
I mean, the truth teller is like a fucking, like, I'm a psychic or I'm a clairvoyant.
You know, it sounds like a bullshit phrase.
Truth teller.
But you've got to decide.
Am I telling the truth about it?
Am I looking at this stuff for what I think it really is and sticking my neck out and saying, I think we're wrong.
I think we were lied to about virtually everything.
And then this thing that we thought we weren't lied to turns out we were lied to about that as well.
So it's not like this one thing that they lied about that everything else has been the truth.
No, it's every fucking thing.
But yet this one thing is the holdout.
aaron rodgers
But not this one here.
joe rogan
Not this one.
aaron rodgers
That's why I always say when people are trying to criticize me, go ahead.
But just so everybody can put you in the right context, just list your VAX status.
How many times have I been VAX?
Just so people know what fucking place you're coming from.
joe rogan
Did you get four or five?
Did you go crazy and get all nine?
aaron rodgers
But that's the thing.
If you're not controlled, if you're not controlled, if you're not bought and paid for, if you don't have people you have to, like you, like if...
If Spotify was saying, hey, Joe, we love what you're doing, we're going to give you all this money, but you've got to stay in this lane over here, you know, just so we don't upset anybody.
But you're not.
And that's why people didn't like the fact that you had all these different people on from all walks of life and all sides of the aisles because there's too much information out there that might influence somebody to think about things a little bit differently.
But you're not bought and paid for.
You're not controlled.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, but if I didn't go to Spotify, maybe I would have got pulled from places.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
If I was just independent like I was before and just on YouTube, a lot of people got pulled from YouTube for far less, but I wasn't on YouTube at the time.
I was on Spotify when all that shit was going down with Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Malone.
When all of those conversations were being taken place and people were freaking out, that was a time where I was only on Spotify.
And that was huge.
aaron rodgers
Thank God.
People needed to hear that.
unidentified
Yeah, because...
aaron rodgers
If you weren't out there doing it, who was gonna fucking do it?
joe rogan
But that's where I gotta give Spotify props.
Because they got a lot of pressure.
They got a lot of pressure to yank me.
When Neil Young and Joni Mitchell were...
I get it, they're old.
I get it, they're boomers.
They don't get it.
They don't know what's going on.
I get it.
I'm a Neil Young fan.
I still listen to his music.
I love that guy.
aaron rodgers
Is his stuff back on Spotify?
unidentified
Yes!
aaron rodgers
Yeah, it went back on Spotify.
unidentified
Oh, Neil, you caved?
joe rogan
Yes.
aaron rodgers
You caved?
joe rogan
Well, also, Neil, maybe apologize, because I was right.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay?
joe rogan
But these people still, probably to this day, will tell you that vaccines save millions of lives.
You don't know what you're saying.
You've been lied to.
You've been lied to.
Maybe they saved some lives.
I don't know what the number is.
They also cause some problems.
This is like reality.
We shouldn't look at one part of reality because it suits our narrative.
And this is what people are doing.
They're just shoving their fucking head in the sand.
Like, yeah, for some people, vaccines probably prevented them from getting measles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It seems like they work.
It's not like they don't work at all.
But also, they cause problems.
We should be able to look at all these things.
And that's where you have informed consent.
And form consent is you know what the possibilities are.
Not that they've been lying to you and gaslighting you so that the doctor gets more incentives.
aaron rodgers
Maybe they have.
joe rogan
Right.
But this is the thing.
Your decision should be based entirely on that, not the influence of a doctor who is incentivized.
aaron rodgers
And you should know, Mr. and Mrs., who are about to have a child, just so you know, this doctor gets a kickback should you get the full 72, 75 vaccine schedules.
joe rogan
I don't think it's really 72. I think it's like, is it 72 actual injections?
Or is it a bunch of different things mixed together, like the MMR?
They count that as three.
It's like one of those things.
Whatever the number is.
Let's just say it's 25. Let's say it's one.
How about the ones that are indefensible, like hep C or hep B?
What are you doing?
Why would you even do that?
If it has side effects and you're giving it to a baby for a fucking sex disease?
aaron rodgers
On day one, right?
For hep B is day one, I believe?
joe rogan
Crazy.
Totally unnecessary and crazy.
aaron rodgers
COVID vaccine?
joe rogan
Crazy.
Totally unnecessary and crazy.
aaron rodgers
72 doses.
joe rogan
72 doses of 17 vaccines.
Between birth and age 18. Holy shit.
Most states mandate children get 29 doses of 9 vaccines to attend kindergarten.
And children enrolled in daycare in many states are required to get multiple doses of 13 vaccines.
aaron rodgers
Suzanne was talking about tetanus.
The tetanus one is wild.
joe rogan
It's wild because tetanus is not dangerous.
Like, I always thought tetanus is going to kill you.
No, if you have an open wound with tetanus, you just wash it out and you won't get tetanus.
What?
Like, and then the number of cases of people that got tetanus.
Like, zero.
But they tricked us.
When I was a kid, I was like, don't get tetanitis!
Get that tetanus shot!
I was worried I could have a rusty nail.
unidentified
A rusty nail is gonna give me a tetanus!
joe rogan
Fucking idiots.
They got us.
They got us about so many different things and they got us because of profit.
I think this is not a case for socialized medicine, but...
We wouldn't have this problem if they couldn't profit off of this stuff.
If there was like a tight regulatory body that wasn't bought and paid for, like when you see people from the FDA going directly to Pfizer or the CDC.
Oh, this is crazy that you allow this to happen.
aaron rodgers
You guys were regulating them and now you're going over and being on the board of that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if we didn't have that and you only had medicine distributed in a way that's going to stop illnesses and cure diseases, like keep it pure.
Who knows where it could have gone?
aaron rodgers
But why is that a partisan issue?
Everybody should be on fucking board with that.
We want the healthiest kids.
We have an epidemic of childhood issues and disease.
Bobby talks about it all the time.
It's all over.
joe rogan
The richest country and the sickest country.
Makes no sense.
aaron rodgers
And now we're 1 in 12 in California with autism?
And don't even fucking start talking about vaccines.
joe rogan
And there's things that we could point to that are going to cause that and we're aware of them and people don't want to hear it.
They don't want to hear it.
aaron rodgers
You don't want to know as you're about to have a kid and you have an 8.3% chance in California of your kid getting...
Autism and all you're going to potentially open your mind to is there might be some environmental factors.
joe rogan
It used to be one in 10,000.
aaron rodgers
How about, let's fucking look at the food.
Let's look at the environmentalists for sure.
Let's look at the fucking vaccines.
joe rogan
We were talking the other day about golf courses.
That they're finding out if you live within a mile of a golf course, you have a high likelihood of getting Parkinson's, like by a hundred and something percent more.
Because of the chemicals.
Because of the glyphosate.
Because you're spraying all this fucking shit all over them.
aaron rodgers
How about banning, you know, GMO products?
jamie vernon
A little contradiction I found.
joe rogan
The tetanus?
jamie vernon
Yeah, just read that.
joe rogan
In 2022, 267 cases and 13 deaths from tetanus were reported.
jamie vernon
That's a small number, I would say, right?
joe rogan
Well, out of all the people that stepped on nails, 13 deaths, but how many of them could have been prevented if they just had the wound cleaned?
Suzanne Humphreys was saying.
jamie vernon
The same website, CDC website, says 1 in 10 in the United States are fatal.
joe rogan
Whoa!
jamie vernon
Which is, that number would be way higher if that would be 200, you know.
aaron rodgers
That's 1 in 20 there.
unidentified
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Over a 10-year period.
joe rogan
That's still, that's crazy.
Who says that?
The CDC?
I don't fucking trust them.
Get your shot.
Get your shot, Aaron.
You need to test this.
aaron rodgers
What are you afraid of?
You afraid of needles?
joe rogan
If Suzanne is correct, and I believe she is.
Then it's not the thing that we're so fucking terrified of.
I don't want to get it.
Don't get me wrong.
But what's the side effects of the vaccine?
Is there any?
Is it possible that some people get them side effects and some people don't?
Like every other fucking drug there is?
Why are you lying about the side effects of this one drug?
And how come you don't have any responsibility?
No legal responsibility?
aaron rodgers
Zero.
Zero accountability.
joe rogan
But you can't give any company that kind of leeway, especially a massive for-profit company that makes fucking hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars.
You can't give them that kind of ability, because they're just going to figure out a way to make more money.
That's what their job is.
Your job is to regulate them, to make sure that they don't give us stuff that kills us.
Their job is to make the most money they can make.
Within the boundaries.
So if they're paying you to dissolve those boundaries and have this revolving door where the people that run these agencies go right into the pharmaceutical drug companies, the people that make the fucking laws and reinforce them know that they're going to get a cushy fucking golden parachute.
They're already counting on that fucking AMGS class.
They're already thinking about that vacation home they're going to buy with all that pharmacy.
They're parachuting into a lovely mansion.
You can't give that to people that are getting a fucking civil servant salary.
You can't dangle that golden carrot and not to expect it to have some sort of an effect on the global health of the fucking whole world.
unidentified
You can't let them go wild.
joe rogan
They're going to make plenty of money.
Just keep them inside to what's actually good.
Because there's a lot of stuff they make that's actually good.
aaron rodgers
Take them off the airways, see what happens.
joe rogan
Bunch of guys out there running around with boners that wouldn't have them if it wasn't for the pharmaceutical drug company.
I heard they're about to fix hair loss.
Look, there's some stuff that's good, but you've got to have regulation.
You've got to have someone who's saying, this is only what's good, not just for profit.
And I don't know if socialized medicine fixes that because everybody that I talk to that's in England, everybody I talk to is in Canada.
aaron rodgers
It's fucking terrible.
joe rogan
It takes forever to get shit fixed.
It takes forever to get a fucking scan.
If you think something might be wrong, you might have cancer.
It's forever.
aaron rodgers
You break a bone and you can't get a scan for eight weeks.
joe rogan
My friend Jen, she blew her ACL out.
Shout out to the Rivets.
My friend's up in Alberta.
She blew her knee out and she couldn't get a fucking operation for a year.
She's a...
Bear hunting guide, okay?
So she's got a hardy people, bro.
She's got a fucking giant ACL sprain, the giant brace, the hard one on the outside, the fucking ones you Velcro down.
For a year, hoofing it, carrying shit out into the woods, riding on 4x4s in these fucking dirt tracks where grizzly bears are.
Because she couldn't get a ACL fixed and then when they got it and they fixed it they did a shitty job like it wasn't it didn't she can't fully extend her knee she can't fully lock it out and she's had it broken down she went under but they try to break it down through like horrible manipulation that you wouldn't be able to tolerate so they put you out and still socialized medicine is not the answer Listen, incentivized medicine is good because it incentivizes doctors to be bad motherfuckers.
Like, if I want to get a knee operation, I want that dude who fixes the Lakers.
I want that guy who drives a Mercedes who lives in Beverly Hills.
aaron rodgers
He's the best.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, dog.
When you got your Achilles fixed?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want socialized medicine.
You want the Mac Daddy.
You want a motherfucker with a Rolex on.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You want that guy who makes plenty of money and likes the fact that he's the best at what he does.
He's gonna fix Aaron Rodgers.
aaron rodgers
And he fucking innovates.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
And tries things.
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
And studies his craft.
joe rogan
You want all those doctors that take care of pro athletes.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want socialized medicine if shit goes sideways.
You want bad motherfuckers.
If you have some sort of a neurological disorder, you want that guy who's this groundbreaking research scientist and a doctor who's putting all this stuff together to try to figure out, we've got to be able to fix Parkinson's.
We're close.
We're real close.
Like, they're that close.
You want that guy.
You want a guy who's incentivized.
You want someone who knows if they come up with a drug that's going to cure a disease, it's going to make millions and millions of dollars.
aaron rodgers
But you know what happens, and I figured it out during the last year when I've been in the weeds with these people who are close to me that have cancer, is that innovation is frowned upon.
And alternative ways of dealing with cancer, frowned upon.
And people who are doing it are getting fucking raided and lawsuits and shut down.
You've got to be real.
Real quiet.
If you're helping people on down low, because that's one of their money makers.
joe rogan
I know a well-established doctor in Texas, a rock-solid credentials, handles a lot of very high-level people, like a concierge practice.
They got almost shut down because they were prescribing ivermectin during COVID.
Had to fight it in court.
It was a battle.
aaron rodgers
That's what happens when you actually heal people.
You become a pariah.
joe rogan
No problems at any other point in the career.
Zero problems.
And all of a sudden, this one thing, and you're on the verge of getting shut down for being a kook.
You're taking care of billionaires.
Billionaires.
aaron rodgers
When I called you during COVID and after you got in COVID and kind of...
Wrote down your protocol and stuff.
joe rogan
I put my stethoscope on when I got on the phone with you.
aaron rodgers
I appreciate that, Dr. Rogan.
joe rogan
I put my fucking old lab coat on.
aaron rodgers
When I looked for pharmacies that would prescribe hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, it was one pharmacy in Wisconsin that was crazy on the down low.
joe rogan
Wow.
aaron rodgers
It was like you were going to get fucking shut down.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
unidentified
Rated.
aaron rodgers
And lucky enough, I had the right connections, got the stuff, and in 48 hours, I was fucking perfect.
You know?
joe rogan
Science denier.
aaron rodgers
And they hated it.
joe rogan
You're a science denier.
aaron rodgers
I am.
joe rogan
I know.
People were telling, like, when people found out I was friends with you, like, you're friends with him?
God, he believes in crazy things.
I go, what does he believe that's crazy?
Nothing.
unidentified
They got nothing.
joe rogan
No one's got nothing.
aaron rodgers
They were told.
They were told he's a fucking crazy kook.
Really?
Why?
joe rogan
Yeah.
aaron rodgers
Well, you know, the COVID thing, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, like me?
You mean the same thing?
Well, no, no.
You took the monoclonal antibodies as well because they were available.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, so did I. Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They worked.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, I was given them by somebody who said, I would lose my medical license if they knew this, so don't tell anybody.
joe rogan
And by the way, they got unavailable real quick.
Because people realize, like, you don't have to get the vaccine, you get the monoclonal antibodies, you just get cured, and you get all the natural benefits of a natural infection, which are seven times better.
The whole thing was so weird to go through.
aaron rodgers
But why are you still talking about it, Joe?
joe rogan
I know.
aaron rodgers
Why do you still care?
Well, maybe because we fucking apologized.
Nobody just wants to change fucking history.
joe rogan
I think what's important is...
Not that we keep bitching about what happened to us during COVID, because I think we definitely have talked about that too much, but that people recognize that this is a pattern that exists in every aspect of the narrative that you're being fed on television about all the foreign wars, about the banking system, about everything, everything you can imagine.
Every bill that gets passed that has a bunch of crazy stuff inside of it, the open borders, why were they allowing people to just come in?
Why were they paying people, giving them money, and why were they moving them to swing states?
Everything you've been told about everything is bullshit.
Everything.
Everything in the news is bullshit.
If you really want to find out the actual information, you have to bypass all the commentary on all the mainstream television shows.
It's all nonsense.
And you have to listen to people like Glenn Greenwald.
You have to find the Matt Taibis.
aaron rodgers
Love Glenn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You have to find the Michael Schellenbergers.
You have to find the people out there that are just...
Talking to you about the actual information from a completely nonpartisan, unbiased perspective.
aaron rodgers
I mean, I've said this before, but think about where we would be if Elon hadn't bought Twitter.
joe rogan
We'd be fucked.
We'd be fucked.
Yeah.
We'd all be really fucked.
And I don't think people realize that because Kanye's got a Heil Hitler song on there right now.
People are mad that I said I was catchy.
Listen, I don't support it.
I don't think it's a good thing to do.
To tell me that it's not a catchy riff is like, you're crazy.
It's a terrible thing to say.
Absolutely.
But I firmly believe that you should let people say terrible things.
And then people should decide in the marketplace of ideas.
Both with their willingness to go see him live and support him.
And with the rightful criticism that you're going to get from everybody who hears it and has something to say about it.
And I think all that is how you figure out what you should and shouldn't say as a human.
You know, I think you should never say some of the things he said about Jews because you're talking about everybody.
You're talking about all these different human beings and to say that they're all the same is crazy.
We don't want that.
With Asian people, we don't want that with white people.
We don't want that with black people.
We don't want that with anything.
Whenever you're just like all these people, when you say it's this.
But you also should be allowed to criticize if members of a certain community have taken over your business.
And if you criticize them, you will get debanked.
And if you criticize them, I don't care if it's Jews or Democrats or Republicans.
If Republicans are doing that, you start criticizing Republicans, you get debanked.
You should be able to talk about anything.
You shouldn't be excluded from talking about things just because these people are of a particular class or particular religious persuasion or a particular nationality.
You should be able to talk and criticize everything.
You know, from talking to Marc Andreessen and learning about debanking, that's where it got so dark because it was just people that were right-wing, that were involved in a lot of these startups and all these things, and he saw them get debanked just for supporting political candidates, becoming a public person that's a problem.
And they got debanked.
Like, you can't bank here anymore.
We don't like how you think about things.
That's crazy.
And that incentivizes people to shut the fuck up, keep their mouth shut, maybe even support political candidates you don't believe in.
Like, that's like mafia.
aaron rodgers
It's a modified social credit system.
joe rogan
It is.
It's scary, man.
When we allow shit like that, that's fucking scary.
But it should be scary.
You want some of that, Don?
Get in there, my man.
It should be the same for...
Republicans, as it is for Democrats, we should be terrified if the Republicans start doing shit like that.
We should be terrified.
aaron rodgers
That's why all corruption should be exposed.
Doesn't matter if it's right or left.
If you got Republicans and Democrats on the Pelosi machine, fucking dominating the stock market, shut them all down.
That's fucking illegal.
That's corrupt.
unidentified
Who cares?
joe rogan
If you found out that people donated to Gavin Newsom, so you take away their bank account?
You know how fucking crazy that would be?
But you know how crazy that would be if the Republicans started doing that?
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, you've got to take your money out of here, man.
You've got to go to the Bank of Croatia or some shit.
You've got to go to some foreign country or something.
aaron rodgers
I'd be against that 100%.
joe rogan
100%.
aaron rodgers
And that's why we've gotten so idealistic with our politics.
It's like, oh, only if it's the other side.
It's like, what about corruption is corruption?
What about fraud is fraud?
What about doing shitty stuff?
Evil is evil.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because Elon is a part of the Doge and they've successfully demonized Elon, you know, then anything that gets cut is like an affront to democracy.
Anything that gets removed, despite the fact that things like the Department of Education, from the time that it was invented to today, where we were, before we were number one in the world with education, or at least in the top.
Two or three.
What were we when they created the Department of Education?
And what were we as of 2024?
aaron rodgers
Down pretty far.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're not anywhere near number one anymore.
So it's not an effective department.
And if giving the power to the states and allowing states to implement common sense strategies to increase children's scores and to give them the freedom to do that and to innovate, I think is a good thing.
I think it's the competition of the marketplace of ideas.
And if you find out that this place has a legitimately excellent school system, you're going to want to go to that place.
Yeah.
And that's going to encourage commerce.
That's going to encourage the growth of businesses.
aaron rodgers
What it does is it turns it back into a meritocracy.
joe rogan
Yes.
aaron rodgers
Which is what we need.
joe rogan
Yes.
But we also have to address as a community, as a country.
And, you know, this is something that never gets talked about enough.
There's places that are fucked, and they're not going to unfuck themselves.
And if you're talking about Baltimore or the south side of Chicago or any of these cities that have experienced the exact same environment for generation after generation of crime and poverty.
That needs to be addressed.
And that's the only way we fix the crime problem in this country.
It has to be fixed from like a children level.
We have to stop children from growing up in these horrendous environments.
Improve these environments.
Give them a fucking chance.
And you have all these exceptional human beings that can come out of that.
aaron rodgers
And that's what I don't agree with the right side.
joe rogan
That's exactly what I don't agree with on the right.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like people that are against welfare or against social safety nets.
I am for all that shit.
But I'm also for...
Guidance and mentorship and examples of how to live a life that's full of meaning and accomplishment.
And anybody can do that.
Anybody can do that.
If you can get an education, if you can get jobs, if you can get out there in the world, and if you have a fucking chance of not getting indoctrinated into a fucking gang and you're not forced to sell drugs, you don't get murdered when you're 15, that's what we have to stop.
Because this is like we have untapped potential of human beings that are just being poisoned by an environment that's never going to change.
And if we don't look at it that way, you want to make America great again?
Have less losers.
The way to have less losers is give more people opportunities.
It doesn't mean take away opportunities from white people.
That's a stupid way of approaching it.
Like stopping white men.
Wow, we have too many straight white men.
That's crazy to say we have too many anything.
Just give more opportunities to other people by boosting them up from the part that's fucked.
The part that's fucked is the neighborhood that they grow up in.
That needs to be addressed.
aaron rodgers
And the right doesn't want to address it.
Exactly.
But, like Thomas Sewell said, it hasn't worked.
Just electing all Democrat candidates.
What have they actually done?
How have they made it better since civil rights?
joe rogan
Too many grifters.
Too many people on the take.
Too many people just using all those political platitudes and all of those beautiful ideas about equity.
aaron rodgers
Yeah, act blues of the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, all that shit.
They're just lining their pockets, folks, and things aren't getting better.
aaron rodgers
No, not at all.
joe rogan
The solution is the same solution that's everywhere.
Make it profitable.
That can be done.
Like, we got these no-bid contracts that Halliburton got to fix Iraq after we blew the fucking shit out of it.
And you can't have contracts for companies to profit off of going into these inner cities and providing mentorship and making more of a responsible police presence and then maybe...
Some places where people can detox safely, medically.
Maybe some education.
Maybe provide them with nutrition.
Give people job skills.
Figure out a way.
It's not going to work with everyone.
You're going to have a bunch of people that don't want to do it.
They don't want to change.
But there's going to be a bunch of people that are looking for something.
And you're going to give them that something.
And now you've got a winner.
Now you've got someone who develops an education.
They have good mentors around them.
They've got people that are showing them there's other ways to live life.
If there's a concerted effort to do that, you've got massive amounts of potential that's just fucked, fucked by their environment.
aaron rodgers
And if you just do it once, then you have something to look to.
There's your mentor.
There's your...
That's what I want to be when I grow up.
I want to get out and do this.
joe rogan
Which is the inherent problem with racism and the problem with all these videos that you see of black people doing wild things online.
It's like, yeah, you're looking at that, but you're also not looking at the environment and these people are forced to exist in.
And what would you be like if you were in that environment?
You'd be the same way.
We'd all be the same way.
aaron rodgers
The constant gentrification of those areas isn't helping.
joe rogan
It's not helping.
Just making them more concentrated.
The haves and the have-nots of the world, it's never been like a further divide.
And I'm real scared about AI and automation.
Because I think everybody's pretty much universally in agreement that there's going to come a point in time where some sort of a universal basic income is required.
And, you know, I think that's probably true.
And Andrew Yang talked about that a long time ago.
aaron rodgers
That's not a bad thing, though, I don't think.
joe rogan
But when you're totally dependent on the state.
aaron rodgers
Yeah.
joe rogan
Totally dependent.
And you don't have any meaning anymore.
Because, like, what are you doing?
You're just waiting for your check all day.
There's going to be people that...
Decide that's not enough for them, and there's always gonna be people that are go-getters.
There's always gonna be people in this world that want more, and they have an ambition, they have a drive for success.
There's always gonna be people like that.
But there's a lot of people that could be like that, but they could get lured into complacency if they just get money every month, and they don't wind up doing shit, and they waste their life.
And they never really...
They never really developed character.
They never really defined themselves by things that they didn't think they could do but pulled off and realized that they can ask more of themselves and it's very satisfying to do that.
They didn't learn those lessons that you clearly learned and that I learned and a lot of people listening to this learned.
You're going to be dependent.
And if the government turns tyrannical, which got slippery during COVID, man.
Got real slippery.
Got real slippery.
And so now they know they can kind of pull that off.
All they need is to be more sophisticated about it.
You can't get the same guy that you had during the AIDS crisis.
Have a new guy.
And make sure that he knows that masks don't work.
Because eventually they're going to figure out masks don't work.
We have them on video saying that masks work.
You know, what is this six foot?
How did you figure that out?
Don't say that.
Don't say that.
aaron rodgers
It's just random.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, they'll be more sophisticated about it next time.
aaron rodgers
Good luck.
joe rogan
But we have to be careful.
We have to be careful because they're always going to want to do something like that.
And that's just what they do.
You know, you play football.
I talk shit.
That's what they do.
They control people.
And that's what...
aaron rodgers
And they're really, really good at it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And we're also...
They do it under the guise that they are working for us.
You know?
Government by the people, for the people.
aaron rodgers
Bullshit.
joe rogan
But it's like that Osho line.
But the people are retarded.
Never see that?
Oh, let's close with that.
Let's close with that.
jamie vernon
Speaking of that, I think this is a fake...
joe rogan
What happened?
jamie vernon
I don't know that this is the original source, but I found this when looking for this information.
joe rogan
It says in 1979, we were ranked number one in the world at the time.
After 40 years of government-run education, we have fallen to number 24. What is the real number, though?
jamie vernon
Well, I can't find anywhere that this is even accurate.
joe rogan
He made it up?
jamie vernon
I went to this guy's Twitter account.
joe rogan
Is he a real guy?
jamie vernon
That's not even his Twitter account.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a fake guy.
jamie vernon
It's a different person.
joe rogan
Oh, China got us.
Fucking China got us.
jamie vernon
But then this information has been debunked a few places.
joe rogan
Oh, Elon posted it!
jamie vernon
Well, Elon reposted a version of it.
That's kind of what happened right here.
joe rogan
Elon posted it in his bullshit!
Isn't that funny?
aaron rodgers
Jimmy Carter.
joe rogan
Not exactly great value for the money.
How does he have the time to tweet so much?
I just don't understand that.
That blows me well.
aaron rodgers
And play video games?
joe rogan
Yeah, it blows me away.
aaron rodgers
He's an expert gamer?
Or he pays people to game for him?
joe rogan
Allegedly people game for him.
It's just fucking...
Here we go.
unidentified
Democracy basically means government by the people of the people For the people.
But the people are retarded.
joe rogan
He nailed it.
aaron rodgers
And you can say that again.
joe rogan
He nailed it.
Alright.
I love you, brother.
Thanks for being here, man.
It was always fun to talk to you.
unidentified
Alright.
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