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Joe Rogan Experience #2323 - Guy Fieri
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guy fieri
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!
joe rogan
Um, Knuckle Sandwich is a sandwich shop in Austin.
guy fieri
I heard about it today.
joe rogan
It's legit.
guy fieri
My pilot calls me and says, you know, someone's got your brand out there.
I'm like, what's it called?
He goes, Knuckle Sandwich.
I'm like, go figure.
unidentified
Well...
guy fieri
But I hear it's good stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's real good.
Can we smoke it here?
What's that?
unidentified
Can we smoke it here?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
guy fieri
Everything goes in here?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever you want to do.
guy fieri
So that...
joe rogan
Don't shoot heroin on camera.
guy fieri
I think we're going to be able to pass that.
joe rogan
So what's happening, man?
How are you?
unidentified
Well...
guy fieri
There we go.
joe rogan
I got one, thanks.
guy fieri
I, uh...
Really appreciate the invite.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
guy fieri
This is a long time coming.
I've been waiting for this.
unidentified
Yeah?
guy fieri
Oh, yeah.
I mean, especially all the influence you've had and things you've done.
And I know the funny side of you.
I know the UFC side of you.
But watching the podcast and seeing all the characters, and I was just watching the Bill Murray interview the other day, and I just look at it and I go, man, to hear those stories talking about Hunter and just all that and all the nostalgia.
I mean, it's just, it's pretty, you've got to have your mind blown by now.
joe rogan
Yeah, my mind's been blown out.
It's kind of overblown at this point.
guy fieri
It's huge.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
I mean, I think about what you did with Trump and all that influence that you made.
And you call it straight up the line.
You want to come on the show?
You want to do this?
Let's do it.
And took the time to do it.
I think it was a huge impact.
I think that we look at all the people that you've given a chance.
You've given them a platform.
And I think that's really – it's fair of you.
And the way you interview, the way I see it from doing a few interviews, you let people talk.
You let them speak their piece.
You continue to – Help them through not getting stuck on one thing.
You navigate them pretty well.
And it's really, I mean, it's from a guy that's, you know, in the business, not to this level, but guys in the business, it's respectful, man.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
What is knuckle sandwich based on?
You even have a, your chain is a knuckle sandwich.
guy fieri
It's all, it's all has history.
Just kind of like as I toured the museum today.
joe rogan
Chef's hat with a skull.
guy fieri
Started with that tattoo.
One of the first tattoos I ever had.
Culinary gangster.
So my buddy Joe Leonard, monkey wrench tattoo, great friend of mine, did my first tattoo.
And he made that.
He says, I have this drawing for you.
I want to show this to you.
And it's pretty, you know, skull, chef.
Let me check it out.
So I don't put a tattoo on until he draws it on first.
I have to have it on for a while.
Like, I have to look at it for a couple days.
Like, does this resonate with me?
So that's how it started.
This was way before TV, way before any of this.
When I got on TV, when I got on Food Network, they were going to send me my first paycheck.
You wouldn't believe how much I made that first episode.
I mean, just huge money.
$1,250 an episode, you know, when you get started.
And I wasn't playing on TV.
But anyhow, I came back and I had all my buddies around my table.
My house was kind of like a soup kitchen.
All my buddies, you know, come by and someone will bring, you know, crabs, someone will bring some stuff, you know, whatever.
And so I'm sitting there with all my buddies.
I said, hey, I got to think of a name for my...
TV, like my other business, because my restaurant business had a business partner, and I didn't want the checks to come to the business.
So I said, what do you think?
My one buddy, Dirty, says, my nickname's Guido.
He says, how about you make us something to eat?
And that'll give us some food for knowledge.
And I'm serious.
I want to come up with a name for the company.
unidentified
I've got to get my $1,200 check sent to me.
guy fieri
And I go, hey, Dirty, how about I give you a knuckle sandwich?
And he goes, that'd be a good name.
joe rogan
That's it?
guy fieri
That was it.
And it was originally that.
It was originally a sandwich with a ring on it and a sandwich made out of money, and that was Knuckle Sandwich.
And then it just kind of all evolved from there.
So all my companies go into the brand of Knuckle Sandwich, but I never put a product of wine or tequila or anything I ever did.
And when we started making these cigars, and this guy that I'm partners with is such a guru, a guy named Eric Espinoza.
We sat there and talked about it, and I have another brand called Flavortown.
Flavortown's too whimsical and too, you know, it's got to be something.
I didn't want to call Guy Fieri.
I didn't want to have my name on it.
I don't want to do stuff that, like, buy this because it's my name.
I just wanted to do something, you know, and we all thought about it.
We said, cigars are that good, and he's such a badass.
It's called Knuckle Sandwich.
joe rogan
Did you have any idea in the beginning of your career of being a TV guy?
Like, how did all that stuff start?
Because it's a weird world, you know?
I had a conversation with Jose Andres about this.
guy fieri
I watched it!
joe rogan
The emergence of the celebrity chef is like...
I mean, it used to be like Julia Child, like way, way back in the day.
And then...
guy fieri
This one?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And then I guess there was a few other people, but they never were like cultural figures.
I guess Julia Child was.
She was probably the only one.
I don't know.
She was really it, right?
guy fieri
Yeah, and that was PBS.
You know, that was PBS.
That wasn't people really blowing it up.
I mean, I watched it because I loved that I was in love with food at a young age.
I mean, I just was, one, because I didn't really experience and like exactly what my parents were feeding me.
My parents were really good cooks.
They weren't in the cooking business.
But yeah, this whole food thing, before I got on Food Network, I had never watched the Food Network.
And not because I don't believe in it.
I mean, food's my epicenter of what I do.
But the last thing I was going to do, working seven days a week, 12, 13, 15 hours a day in the restaurant...
joe rogan
Come home and watch more food.
guy fieri
It's going to watch somebody make me, you know, a pot pie.
I'm like, I got enough.
Plus, I also didn't really have a true understanding of what was going on.
Knew who Emeril was.
I mean, you couldn't...
joe rogan
He's another one.
Remember when he had that sitcom?
His tagline, bam!
Like, they decided to try to put that into a sitcom.
guy fieri
We just had that conversation the other day.
Yeah, we just had that conversation.
But Emeril's the OG.
I give such appreciation and accolades to everybody that did it before me.
There were so many people that helped pave the way in one style or another.
And some in TV, some literary, some...
You know, just living the, you know, keeping the energy of the industry alive.
Because if you're not from the industry, you don't quite exactly get what it is.
But it's a pretty, it's like understanding UFC.
You know, the bigger fan you become of something, the more you start looking at it and just going, it is so much more than what you're watching in the ring for the, you know, next 20 minutes.
It's really deep and there's so much more and there's so much, it's not just lifestyle, it's attitude, it's energy, it's...
It's connectivity.
It's family.
It's community.
It's all that kind of stuff.
joe rogan
So did you, like, how does one go from being a chef to being a TV chef?
Like, what was it?
Did you just get an audition?
Like, did they contact a bunch of chefs?
Like, who's got the wackiest hair?
And who looks like they would be good on TV?
Like, how do they figure something like that out?
guy fieri
This is about the most whacked story in the world.
So, alright, so, never graduated high school.
Dropped out of high school when I was 16. Went to France.
I was an exchange student.
I'm going to give you a little bit more of the backstory than you probably want, but I'll kind of give you the quick version.
So when I came back from France, I was supposed to go to my senior year in high school, and I wasn't really super interested in going back to high school.
I just lived in France in a boarding house and went to high school, and I didn't even speak French.
But my parents were really open-minded, and I'd save my money, and they said, if you can pass a year of French at the junior college at 16, and you can pass the class, and you can figure it out, I guess.
So I went and lived in a boarding house and went to high school.
Came back my senior year, I just was not interested in going back to high school.
So I went to junior college, finished junior college, went to UNLV, got my degree, graduated a little bit early and went and ran restaurants for other people.
And then, and I was 26, moved back to the wine country up to Northern California where I'm from, opened my first restaurant.
Had a bunch of restaurants with a buddy.
Things were great.
Did exactly what I wanted to do.
Wanted to be, you know, have a great wife.
Wanted to be a great dad.
Wanted to have my own restaurant.
That's all I wanted.
Not that I was short-sighted and stuff, like being a big community person, wanted to do a lot of, you know, community service and so forth.
My parents were that way.
So that was it, man.
I had like three restaurants, owned a couple hot rods, bought my own house.
I was living it, you know.
And a bunch of friends came up to me, actually a kid across the street came to me and said, you watch Food Network?
I said, no.
He said, we have a show on there called the Food Network Star.
You should go on that show.
I hadn't even seen Food Network.
I saw Rachel Ray one time.
I was at a bar.
I saw Rachel Ray on screen, and I'm like, that girl's got energy.
I mean, listen to her.
And she could talk food.
She doesn't know her shit.
So that was whatever.
About six, eight months later, my wife's driving home from the city.
She says, hey, I was just listening to the radio station.
They had that Food Network star show going on.
She goes, you'd be great in that.
I go, how do you know?
You haven't seen the show.
She goes, no, they're just talking about it, like, you know, the culinary challenges and all the things.
And then if you do it, you win a show.
What do I want a show for?
Doing what?
I've not been on TV.
I made my own TV commercials for my restaurant.
That was the only thing I ever did that was TV.
joe rogan
So none of it was appealing when they contacted you and they asked you?
guy fieri
I wouldn't say it wasn't appealing.
It just wasn't in my scope.
joe rogan
Right.
It wasn't in your plans.
guy fieri
It wasn't like something I was seeking.
We had talked about it.
There had been many people that had come to me before and said, like my buddy that was the marketing manager for...
Flowmaster.
Remember Flowmasters?
The mufflers?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, okay.
guy fieri
Hot rod mufflers?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
guy fieri
So he came to me and said, you should do a hot rod show.
You love hot rods, let's do a hot rod show.
I mean, I know enough to be dangerous, you know, about hot rods.
I mean, I know just enough to get into the conversation where I bury myself.
And so that was that.
So anyhow, the show, they say make a three-minute pitch.
So all my buddies are like, you know, got to make the pitch.
Got to do the thing.
And I avoided it any way I could.
And to the point where it had expired, like the entry time had expired.
So my buddy named Mustard, we were on a barbecue team together.
We did competition barbecue and all kinds of crazy shit.
And he says, did you ever send that demo tape into the Food Network?
And I said, no.
I just missed that window.
And he goes, good, I thought you were going to say that.
He says, because they opened it back up.
There's another week.
He says, let's go make that.
I'm like, I don't want to do this.
And he's like, don't be, you know, you always push every, you know, this is the truth.
Because I push all my friends and like, open your own business.
Go on that vacation.
Have kids.
You know, I'm always the one that's kind of, you know, go live your best life.
And so I kind of walked my talk.
Last thing I wanted to do, Joe, honestly, is go on TV.
And because I never went to culinary school.
You know, I've just been cooking through my, you know, that was my career, and it's what I did as a passion and living in France.
joe rogan
You opened up a restaurant without ever going to culinary school?
guy fieri
No.
joe rogan
Is that unusual?
guy fieri
I think it's probably 60-40.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
60-40 that go to school?
guy fieri
60 go to school.
joe rogan
That's a lot that don't, though.
guy fieri
I could really be off on that.
When I do diners, drive-ins, and dives, 70, 60% don't go.
A lot of the mom and pops.
And that doesn't mean that they don't learn.
I mean, some of the best chefs I know haven't been to culinary school and just are super smart at learning and dig in.
A lot of education, a lot of research, a lot of trial and error, a lot of putting yourself out there.
You've got to be willing to fail.
I don't really think you'd be a good cook if you're not willing to fail.
I mean, if you stay in your lane so much, I just think that you get better chances to, well, let's think about fighting.
Think about things you've learned.
All the education in martial arts and boxing and all these different perspectives that people take to be in it.
It's usually the one that has a pretty good, you know, narrow focus on something I really, really love, but then having that outside perspective.
So for me as a chef, having the ability to understand Indian food, you know, there's such a depth there that I'll never hit the bottom.
You'll never touch all the opportunities that there are.
But anyhow, so back to that, I made the demo tape.
And I made it so ridiculous that there's no way.
There's just no way they were going to pick me.
joe rogan
What'd you do in the demo tape?
Do you have it?
guy fieri
I think you can find it online.
I can't believe I just told you.
Oh, you guys already have them?
God damn it, you set me up.
joe rogan
I didn't set you up.
guy fieri
Did you really get it that fast?
joe rogan
Jamie just pulled it up.
guy fieri
Jamie, did you pull it up that fast?
Listen, Jamie, welcome to Sonoma County, California, home of true wine country cuisine.
Today I'm going to prepare a dish for you, not in fusion, but in confusion.
I'm going to do a gorgonzola tofu sausage terrine that we served over a mildly poached ostrich egg.
Now, since we're in the wine country, I'll be serving that on grape nuts and done with a delicious pickled herring mousse right on top.
Oh, I know, delicious.
It sends shivers up my spine.
No, seriously, folks.
Real food for real people.
That's the idea.
See, it's all getting messed up.
People are trying to take everything off the shelf and jam it onto a plate, and that's not what it has to be.
I learned how to cook out of survival.
My parents are going through this macrobiotic cooking in the late 70s and I had enough bulger and steamed fish to kill a kid.
So the idea in our family was whoever made the dinner got to decide what it was going to be.
And being of Italian descent, pasta was always one of the keys.
I went and studied in France and then came back and got my degree at University of Nevada, Las Vegas in Restaurant Administration.
I've been a district manager in Los Angeles and moved up here to Northern California to open up three different concept restaurants.
What I'd like to talk to you about and what I think I could do as a Food Network host is teach people about real food, real people.
Get it to the basics.
Great product.
Great equipment, great ideas.
See, anybody can read a cookbook.
Anybody can come up with a simple idea.
But the idea is bringing it to the table.
I take people's imaginations and put them on the plate.
Let me show you one of my favorites.
I was on my way back from Houston where I was down there learning about Southern Style Barbecue.
And I came up with this idea.
I've got to take Southern Style Barbecue and mix it into Japanese cooking.
See, in Japanese, sushi does not mean raw fish.
And that's what people think it does.
It means seasoned rice.
So I take a little bit of seasoned rice.
A little bit of smoked pork butt, and we put this together here in a dish with a little of our American favorite, french fries, and mix this together with a little bit of the California favorite, some avocado.
And I came up with this idea, and as I was doing this, a buddy came around the corner and he says, Guido, what are you doing?
He says, you can't put that into rice.
You can't make sushi out of barbecue.
What are you doing, you jackass?
And that's what this dish is called.
It's actually called the jackass roll.
So we mix it up, we serve it over.
The idea about cooking is not just about great food.
It's about putting all the pieces.
Do you have a sharp knife?
Do you understand sanitation?
Do you know where to get it from?
And do you know how to tie all the components together?
You see, my idea about it is, is there's so much more to teach.
As a restaurateur, people ask me all the time, how do you do it?
I can take the restaurant and bring it to the home, and I think that would be something that would be sellable.
My name's Guy Fieri.
My friends call me Guido.
You can now consider me your friend.
joe rogan
Why did you think that would be ridiculous?
That seems pretty straightforward.
What's the matter, Jamie?
Oh, your switch is fucking up again?
You gotta reboot again?
Go ahead, reboot.
No worries.
Okay, okay, okay.
That seems pretty straightforward.
I don't know why you would think that that would somehow or another, like, there's no way they're going to pick you.
guy fieri
I was taking it seriously.
I wasn't taking it seriously.
The whole beginning line was such cool.
joe rogan
That's that TV personality.
That's like...
unidentified
Yeah.
guy fieri
Listen, I didn't one take.
That was it.
Here we go.
You guys happy?
Shit's done.
joe rogan
I don't know why you would think that that would be something they would never pick you from.
guy fieri
Well, I didn't know back then what I know about TV now.
joe rogan
Oh, you thought you had to be, like, super professional?
Right.
guy fieri
I thought if I talk some shit and I kind of made it a joke and I told them what are they doing, you know, I thought, like, hey, I'll be so, you know.
I mean, that is pretty true to who I am anyway.
What year was that?
2005?
unidentified
Yeah, 2005.
guy fieri
First show didn't air to 2006.
But, yeah, so I sent it to them.
And I sent it on a DVD.
Because my buddy that filmed it worked at the TV station.
And he burned it from the camera and put it on DVD.
joe rogan
Back in the old days.
guy fieri
So I sent it in.
That's it.
I did my deal.
I said I would do it.
I did it.
So it gets in.
What, three days later?
Late at night.
10 o 'clock at night.
Lori and I are sitting.
My wife and I are sitting on the couch watching TV.
Home phone rings.
She goes, no.
She's from Rhode Island.
She's from North Providence.
So she's a little bit tough on the phone at 10 p.m.
You know, like, who's calling at 10 p.m.?
No, I don't know where he is.
No, he's not here.
I'll take a message.
No.
Yes.
No.
She finally covers the phone.
She goes, it's the Food Network.
joe rogan
Bullshit.
guy fieri
Food Network.
It's one of my buddies being a jerk-off.
So I pick up the phone.
I go, hello, Food Network.
Blah, blah, blah.
And they said, is this...
Guy Ferrari.
And I'm like, okay, I know it's not because it was one of my buddies.
They would have said, you know, Fieri.
So she goes, yeah, we got your DVD and we'd like to talk to you about it.
We want you to be on the show.
I said, okay, what does that entail?
Well, there's a contract that will be on your door tomorrow morning.
We FedEx it to you.
So I get to FedEx and I look at it and I give it to one of my attorney buddies.
Like, man, they own your ass.
If you sign this, I can own you.
So he redlined a bunch and I sent it back to him.
They called me back and they said, "You can't redline the contract that we're sending you.
joe rogan
This is like, you want on the show or you don't want on the show." When you say they own you, like, what do you mean?
guy fieri
Oh, you know how a contract goes when you get into TV.
I mean, there's like, you know, we've got you for 36 months, you can't do any other production, you know, whatever.
joe rogan
36 months?
guy fieri
I don't know.
Don't quote me on any of it.
All I know is I had never signed an entertainment contract at that point.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A lot of them are pretty predatory.
They take advantage of the person that doesn't have any exposure.
If you're going to become a star, they want to profit massively off it.
guy fieri
So that's where my guy said to me, he goes, you have your own restaurant, you're doing your own thing.
What are you doing?
What are you getting on TV for?
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
And so long story short, I went.
Lori and I were pregnant eight and a half months.
joe rogan
You were pregnant too?
guy fieri
Yeah, well, that's what I call it.
I held the baby weight.
But we were pregnant.
We got the kid coming.
Hunter was four.
No, Hunter was...
joe rogan
Did you name him after Hunter Thompson?
guy fieri
Yes, I did.
Did you know that, or are you just saying that?
joe rogan
No, I didn't know that.
guy fieri
Oh, that's 100%.
Because I saw the Hunter Thompson in the hallway, and I saw the Bill Murray interview.
I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
I don't read a lot, but I read that book probably five times.
joe rogan
That's a great book.
guy fieri
Such a great book.
When I got out of college, I lived in a town I didn't know anybody.
I lived in Long Beach.
I didn't know anybody.
I just worked at this restaurant.
I'm not a big TV person, so I just read the book.
I read it in college, and I read it again, and I read it again.
And it's funny, when you read something again, I got that from the Dale Carnegie book.
I read Dale Carnegie, and you have to read it a hundred times, or how many times.
I'm just like, man, this guy owns it.
unidentified
This guy lives it.
guy fieri
This guy just, you know, what a character.
And then the more I read about him, and the more you kind of learn about him.
So I told my wife, so we have Hunter and Ryder.
Ryder's freshman in...
San Diego State.
Hunter just graduated with his MBA at University of Miami.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
guy fieri
Yeah, so that's where Hunter came from.
unidentified
That's great.
guy fieri
Yeah, thank you.
And my nephew Jules, who's in the middle of the two.
We raised Jules.
My sister died when Jules was really young.
And so Jules just is graduating this Sunday with his degree from Loyola in law.
He's in EDM music.
He's an agent.
joe rogan
Oh, cool.
guy fieri
So anyhow, I got on the show.
I got there.
Everybody's standing there buttoned up in their chef coats.
I walk in and I'm in New York.
I've never been to New York.
I'm in flip-flops and shorts and a yellow leather jacket.
And I walk in and everybody's like, you know, all puckered.
And I'm like, oh, this is not going to go well.
This is going to be a shit show.
And I just said, you know what?
You got to give it a shot.
So I just went in.
I was just me.
Did what I do.
I won.
So I won the show.
And what this show, What You Win, is a six-episode cooking show, which they ran at 7 a.m. on Saturdays.
I mean, it was the worst time slot in the world.
But they gave me the show, and I did good.
And they gave me another show, and I did the show, and I hated it.
I did the pilot, and I hated it.
And I'm like, I can't do this.
joe rogan
What was that show?
guy fieri
It's called Gotta Get It.
I don't think you're going to find Jamie.
You're not going to find this thing.
joe rogan
He'll find it.
guy fieri
No, Jesus, please.
It was never aired.
unidentified
So what it was, it was a show about kitchen gadgets.
And I'm not a kitchen gadget chef.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's like you've got to get one of these Cuisinarts.
guy fieri
It wasn't even that good.
I mean, it was like avocado slicer.
If you can't slice an avocado, don't eat it.
You've got a problem.
But there was a cool one.
Oven that talked Bluetooth to your phone.
And that was way before Bluetooth stuff was really going on.
There was a two-stroke weed eater mower with a blender on it.
And that was the coolest one.
I made margaritas in that.
But the one they gave me that sucked the worst, or the one that I wasn't excited, was they gave me a ball, like a hamster ball.
Remember the hamster ball as you put the hamster and run around the house?
But you'd pour cream and vanilla and sugar and all this in a ball and then throw ice cubes in it and then you would roll the ball around, kick it around, and it would roll and it would make ice cream.
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kind of fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
guy fieri
So, not for a guy that has a sushi barbecue restaurant and, you know...
joe rogan
Yeah, how long does it take to make ice cream by kicking a ball around?
guy fieri
Too long.
joe rogan
I was thinking, that's fun, but then I thought, no.
How much time?
guy fieri
Go kick it when you're in flip-flops.
So I did the whole thing, and they called me a couple weeks later, and they said, hey, congratulations.
The show got picked up for 13 episodes, primetime.
unidentified
I'm like, oh, I gotta be honest with you.
guy fieri
I'm not gonna be able to do that show.
Like, what?
Like, no, I just, it's not.
It went through a series of people, like executive, executive from the production company, the owner of the production company, yelling at me, telling me he wasted time and his money.
I said, hey, nobody told me that if this got picked up, I had to go do the show.
I thought it was a discovery for you, a discovery for me.
I don't know shit from Steak Sauce about how this all works, which I quickly turned that.
I was not going to be inside of the TV business and not be really aware of what goes on.
Finally, the president of the network called me and she said, you're burning a huge opportunity.
Brooke Johnson, you're burning a huge opportunity.
I said, Brooke, it's all about, to me, about authenticity.
I said, I don't need the paycheck and I don't need, I said, I'm happy with my life.
I love what I do.
I like my cooking show called Guy's Big Bite.
You know, I cook food the way I want.
Call it what I want to call it.
Make it the way I want to make it.
And I said, I just don't, me and gadgets for cooking is just not a thing.
She goes, well, you might not ever get a shot like this again.
I said, I really appreciate the opportunity, and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I just don't want to do it.
And she said, okay.
And that was it.
But fortunately, six months later, they called me back and said, we're going to give you one more shot.
You're going to be a food critic.
I said, nope, thank you.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Why not?
I said, I'm not a food critic.
I'm a cook.
The last thing I'm going to do is go in and tell people they're doing it right or wrong.
That's like someone going and telling somebody they don't like their art's wrong.
Bullshit.
That's not my style.
So they said, well, okay, it's not that.
It's not that.
You go around.
This was the key word.
You go around to mom and pop joints and you just eat the food and talk to the people.
My God, I can do.
That's my style.
I said, what's it called?
Diners, drivers, divins, and dines.
I said, what?
They couldn't get the name right.
No one ever gets diners, drivers, and dines right.
That's why we call it triple D all the time.
I said, I could do that.
I could do that.
That sounds like dives.
I love dives.
I don't know a lot about diners because we don't have many of them on the West Coast.
And drive-ins I love.
That was always special to me to go to the A&W drive-in when I was a kid.
We didn't eat fast food when I was a kid.
So when you went there, that was like big, big deal.
And that's how I got going.
joe rogan
Wow.
Interesting.
Yeah, it seems like it's hard to find because once they started making personalities out of chefs, Then you have to find authentic personalities who are good on TV that are actually cooks.
So it's kind of a little bit of a dilemma because chefs aren't necessarily the kind of people that you want to have in front of the camera for the most part.
guy fieri
I deal with a lot of them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
But you know what?
I think that everybody, when you get people comfortable as, you know, you get people comfortable, you get them talking about themselves, you get them in a zone where they...
Feel good and they relax.
It's very – it's what you do here.
I mean I watch.
It's – people have a gift of storytelling or have history and what can people talk best about themselves or their history or their passion and that's what I did with Triple D is I just went in.
I remember the first one we ever shot.
I'm standing there talking to the guy about the thing, and I'm pouring coffee behind my back.
People are bitching at the counter because we're right in the middle of an active service in the diner.
I'm pouring coffee, and pancake's burning, and I flip the guy's pancake.
And I'm like, so how long have you been making the, you know, yeah, hang on a second.
He needs an order back, you know.
And I asked all my questions I was supposed to ask.
And the producer at the end goes, cut, cut, cut, cut.
I said, come here.
I said, what the hell was that?
I said, slow your roll, bro.
I said, I asked every question you asked me to ask.
I said, I didn't stand there and do it like PM Magazine.
You know, I was in the mix with the dude, but I asked all the goddamn questions.
And he's like, can you do that again?
I said, I just stand on my head.
This is what we do in the restaurant business.
I said, we work and we talk and we joke and we laugh and we bust balls and we do, you know, that's what we do.
He throws his clipboard on the ground.
We've got a hit.
And then we went around the country for the next three weeks and shot more locations and put that together into the pitch.
joe rogan
So I understand, was he pretending to be upset or was he upset until you explained it to him?
guy fieri
He was kind of an upset guy.
joe rogan
Oh, fun.
guy fieri
But it worked out.
joe rogan
That's the problem with TV, dealing with upset people.
guy fieri
Well, and the thing is, especially people that don't understand TV.
So when I started Triple D, I just treated my fellow chefs, restaurant owners, like we were in the kitchen.
Have fun.
I tell them all the time, I want you to say whatever you want to say.
If you want to drop 50 F-bombs, if you drop a thing on the floor, if you shit, god damn, if it's not right, don't worry.
We'll stop, we'll fix it, and we'll go forward.
But I'm never going to make you look bad.
I promise you that.
I'll never make you look bad.
You'll look great.
Sometimes we stop, I go, hold up, let's hold up, let's hold up.
What do you drink?
Jack.
Can we get him a shot of Jack, please?
You know, they'll sit there and shoot the shit about his favorite team or talk about it.
I always start talking about people's family right off the bat.
Talk about family kind of puts people on the same playing field.
joe rogan
Hmm.
guy fieri
Not a game.
Just a reality.
joe rogan
No, I understand.
I get it.
Well, that sounds like a fun thing to just drive around and go to people's restaurants.
See how they do things and see the history behind it and what was their dream?
How satisfying is it to have this place and meet all these people?
guy fieri
You meet the people that are just, I mean, bring tears to your eyes.
There's so many stories, so many.
We've done, like, almost 1,600 locations.
And it's just mind-blowing to be in the restaurant business and to watch these people.
What they've put into it and how many sacrifices they've made and then how many success stories we hear.
And it's just, it is probably one of the most fulfilling things I've ever done in my life.
You know, it's really, I would have been done by now.
I mean, as a matter of fact, when we first started the show, I thought, oh, this would be fun to do for a couple of years.
I'll probably run out of places.
This show could live on forever.
joe rogan
How many years have you been doing it now?
16. 16 years.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
guy fieri
But it does some great things for them.
joe rogan
I'm sure it's great for their businesses, right?
It must be a huge boom.
guy fieri
We're shooting right now.
We're shooting in town right now.
joe rogan
In Austin?
guy fieri
Yeah, we just shot this morning.
joe rogan
Where'd you shoot?
guy fieri
Shot a place called the Bolden Creek Cafe.
Vegan joint.
And I shouldn't even say it like that.
I should just say Bolden Creek Cafe, an awesome restaurant.
joe rogan
No, you should say vegan.
You should let everybody know.
guy fieri
But here's the thing.
I think when I say vegan, people are like, Oh, so you kind of got to give them their shot.
No?
joe rogan
I wasn't thinking that.
I was just thinking, you know, I have some vegan friends.
If they only wanted to eat at a vegan restaurant, I would take them there.
guy fieri
It's so good, I'd just go eat there as it is.
And that's what I, when I interview people at vegan restaurants or vegetarian restaurants, I'll say, do your non-vegan vegetarian friends come here?
Or I'll ask people.
Usually 50% of them that I'm talking to aren't vegan.
They just go there because the food's great.
joe rogan
There's a vegetarian place that I used to love to go to in Woodland Hills that was an Indian joint, like super authentic Indian.
It was in this little strip mall, and I would go in there, and all the menu was in Hindi.
Everybody was speaking.
It was...
You kind of look at the photos that they had of the dishes and just like, that one, give me that one.
guy fieri
Spicy, not spicy.
joe rogan
All vegetarian, but like super authentic.
And, you know, that's not even necessarily what I'm interested in, but I would go there all the time.
guy fieri
I want to eat great food.
I want to eat food that's prepared correctly.
Yeah.
So it's kind of like saying, I didn't mean to throw the vegan thing on it because really what it is, it's about great restaurants.
With really great people that own it or people that have a good story and then people that want to talk about what the food, they talk about what they do.
joe rogan
Did you ask them why they decided to make a vegan restaurant?
guy fieri
She's vegan.
And she had a coffee shop, started with a coffee shop and then was doing a little bit of food on the side and then just continued to grow and make it bigger and bigger.
It's so funny.
I drive up and they got a big neon that says caffeine dealer.
And I'm like, that's my kind of energy.
That's my kind of smartass.
You've got to have fun with yourself.
You've got to laugh about this shit.
And just great character.
I'm actually probably getting my ass kicked from the network right now going through telling about this ahead of time.
But no, there's great...
I haven't been to Austin a few years shooting Triple D, but I'll come back to a city and new places have popped up.
Or we start to find out more about them.
joe rogan
Have you been to Travis Barker's place?
guy fieri
No.
joe rogan
I've heard that place is phenomenal.
And that's a fully vegan place in LA.
Was it called Crossroads Cafe?
Yeah, I've heard from many of my friends.
Like Dana White went there.
He's like, dude, it's phenomenal.
You can't believe it's vegan.
guy fieri
That's the thing about it is people have this stereotype about vegan food.
joe rogan
For a good reason.
guy fieri
You and I like, listen, you and I like wild game.
You and I like meat and so forth.
But if you really look about it, you're...
joe rogan
Well, there's just enough vegan people that are really annoying.
guy fieri
That I won't disagree.
joe rogan
There's enough that are wonderful people.
Don't get me wrong.
But there's a percentage of vegan people that are, like, hugely annoying.
guy fieri
Well, and especially when they start...
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
Proselytizing.
Yeah.
guy fieri
Don't push yourself into somebody else's lane.
Do what you want to do and do what you love.
But don't go and...
I'm not into preaching.
I'm not into trying to change...
Have your opinion.
Have your attitude.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the problem with the whole vegan thing, is that the people, they...
Represent themselves as morally superior.
And it's not all of them.
Some of them do it just because they're kind people and that's how they want to eat.
And that's wonderful.
guy fieri
I think that happens in a lot of different sections.
I mean, there's people about heavy metal.
You don't like heavy metal.
You're an idiot.
joe rogan
Exactly.
There's people like that with yoga.
They just start doing yoga.
They want everybody to do yoga.
Yeah, I get it.
guy fieri
Well, I'll tell you a funny story.
I was running restaurants down in Long Beach.
And then I was in Redondo Beach.
And I'm running a little restaurant down there called Luis's.
Tiny little pasta joint.
Pizza and pasta.
And there was a bunch of them in LA at the time.
And then I eventually became the district manager for them.
And I was young.
I was very young in my career.
But Hoyce Gracie used to come in.
The Gracie family was right down the street in Redondo Beach.
And I remember somehow through a manager, through one of the guys, we got a UFC videotape.
VHS.
Someone had...
I don't know what it was.
I'd never seen it.
I hadn't even heard of it.
And that was the first time that we ever came aware to, you know, this...
And then, who was it?
Tank Abbott was down in Huntington Beach.
And we used to go down...
And I used to live by Huntington.
So we used to go down there and the Tank Abbott thing and the T-door thing, you know, this whole thing.
But, you know, I mean, you're so ingrained in it.
You're such a massive part of it that, you know, if anybody wants to start getting on a high horse about stuff, I'm like...
As soon as you know enough about it, and as soon as you have a platform that you really can say something, then speak your piece.
But don't shove it down people's throat.
I mean, I'm just not...
You can do about anything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
You know.
joe rogan
No, that's a big one when people start doing jujitsu and they only want to...
Tell everybody about jujitsu.
The vegan thing, though, is like I really do get it from their perspective, like as an ethical perspective.
It's just one of those things where if there's a thing that you're trying to do, where you're trying to be kind, you're going to get a certain percentage of people that start doing that that get annoying.
guy fieri
Yeah.
unidentified
I just choose not to listen to annoying people.
guy fieri
I just tune it out.
I don't have fucking time for it.
I really don't have time for it.
I mean, there's so much else going on in my life and so much else going on in this world.
I think, why don't we start focusing all the good shit we can do?
We can do so much great shit.
If everybody would pivot themselves 10% and just go and look and say, take everything you love and then go do that more.
And be worried less about what somebody's saying about you or what's going on on social media or whatever this other shit may be.
Just go do something positive.
joe rogan
It's a social media contagion.
It's a problem.
It's a real problem.
guy fieri
When will it break is the question.
Like when will it stop being the center of shit?
When people just start looking at it and go, okay, we're done.
We've had enough of it.
It's run its course.
It's been poisonous enough.
I mean, there's positive things to it.
Don't get me wrong.
I think there's some really good information that you can get from it.
You know, I always say to these young chefs that are on my shows, like, oh, somebody wrote about me.
And I'm like, A, quit reading about yourself.
B, look at the source.
Now, if I come up to you and I tell you that your food sucks, or I tell you that you're doing something that's wrong, you know, we're friends.
You can maybe take my opinion with some credit.
But the jerk-off that's writing about you in his mom's basement eating Cheetos in his underwear, you know, clucking away, telling you how much you suck.
I said, do you really care what that guy thinks?
joe rogan
The problem is that people see it written down, and they think it's almost like a valid source, and then they have to combat it.
But you're going to combat...
35 million people, or however many million people are tweeting about things.
guy fieri
And how many extra accounts they have.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
And there's a lot of people that aren't even real.
But it's also just the nature of it highlights negativity.
Because the nature of this platform, what gets traction is things that make people upset.
guy fieri
Well, it's what media used, I mean, it still is.
You don't hear the front page of the paper talking about...
All the good that somebody does and all the money they've raised or all the benefit they've given or all the experiences they've offered.
What you hear about is the negative, the death.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a problem because it's monetized, right?
It's a problem because that's how people make money and they don't think of it in terms of the impact that it's having on the culture.
Yeah, I mean, that's how they're making money.
They make money by getting people, or it used to be, by getting people to buy newspapers and tune into the news.
And because of that, what's going to get people's eyes glued?
Not positive stories and inspirational stories, but rather whatever the chaos is anywhere in the world.
And exaggerate it to make it the most salacious and the most ridiculous.
guy fieri
How much can we spend, regardless if it's true or not?
I mean, that's what's been killing me, is all of the truth, non-truth.
Where's the medium?
Who's the governing body?
Is anybody going to hold anybody's feet to the fire on this?
No.
I wish there could be a punishment.
You lied.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's up to us.
It's up to us to ignore them.
Once you know that they're full of shit, and once you know that they lie, take away their power.
The way you take away their power is just not pay attention to them.
And they do it to themselves.
I mean, in general, mainstream media has kind of, over the last...
You know, eight, nine years has exposed themselves as being wholly corrupt, very corrupt and full of lies and propaganda and ignoring positive aspects of people because they don't fit with your political agenda.
It's just – and it has a negative effect downstream of the entire civilization because it's just like everybody's at everybody's throats and they're being – Fed all this negativity.
First through mainstream media, and then it's all accentuated by Twitter and Facebook and Instagram.
guy fieri
No, it's poisonous.
And it poisons the culture.
And fortunately, we're moving away from it, but there still is.
unidentified
Are we?
guy fieri
Well, I think there's a mass group that is still, you know...
Buying into it and being the sheep and going along with it.
You're not following it.
I'm not following it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but we're public people.
It's like it's wise for your health to not follow it, you know?
guy fieri
True, but I hope.
And again, I don't have any prescription to it.
I follow the same mantra you're saying.
Quit tuning in.
Quit paying attention.
Quit passing it along.
Quit reading the bullshit.
You don't know if it's true or not.
Just talk about what you know.
And talk about what you believe and be who you are.
And quit trying to...
Just quit negative shit.
Keep it out of your mouth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a problem because it's so addictive.
People are constantly checking it.
And when you're bored, you immediately grab your phone.
And then what do you do?
You open up social media.
What's everybody yelling at?
What are they upset about?
guy fieri
What's your social media that you go to?
joe rogan
Mostly Twitter.
Because it's the only one that's free.
In terms of, like, free speech, like, legitimate free speech.
Call it X, whatever.
I'm still going to call it Twitter.
guy fieri
I hate when they say Twitter, X, fully known as Twitter.
unidentified
Yeah.
guy fieri
Okay, it's been two years, three years.
joe rogan
I know, but nobody calls it X. Everybody calls it Twitter.
Very few people call it X. Everybody calls it Twitter.
guy fieri
Why did he change it, anyway?
joe rogan
Because he's crazy.
Same reason why he bought it.
unidentified
I saw the picture of you shooting the bow at the Tesla.
guy fieri
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
I heard the tip came right off and came right back at you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it blew apart.
Yeah, it's thick steel.
guy fieri
Do you think it was going to go through?
joe rogan
I think if I had a reinforced arrow, so like, you know, there's companies that may look super durable, like much heavier grain arrows, and maybe an iron will broadhead, but like a single bevel, two blade.
I had a three-blade, too much of a big cutting surface.
I need a smaller surface.
I thought about it for a lot afterwards.
guy fieri
And I may try it again with goggles on and behind it.
joe rogan
No, I wasn't worried about it hitting me.
But it's pretty impressive.
I mean, you could actually shoot a...
I think you could shoot a 40...
What round will that...
I don't want to lie.
I know a 9mm will bounce right off of it, but what round is that capable of?
guy fieri
Will a 9mm bounce off of it?
joe rogan
Bounce right off of it.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yep.
guy fieri
But not the windows.
joe rogan
No, not the windows.
No.
guy fieri
What do it cost to get the windows done?
joe rogan
You can get the windows done.
Easy.
guy fieri
Have you driven one?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
guy fieri
I heard they're amazing.
My buddy has one.
joe rogan
I drove my Tesla here today.
guy fieri
Oh, you have one?
joe rogan
I don't have a Cybertruck.
guy fieri
I have a Model S. He says you push the button and the car will come get you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, it'll do that.
Okay.
The body was saying 9mm handgun, 22 caliber rifle, has not bulletproof against all calibers.
So when you get higher, like an AR-15, well, 50 caliber, of course, is going to penetrate everything.
Trucks metal, also crack of shots are fired close together.
But either way.
Why would you do that?
Why are you making a car like that, you fucking psycho?
It's really kind of crazy.
And I think you can't sell them in some countries because they're so durable that it's like a danger to other cars on the road.
Because you would hope that if a...
Celica hits a Prius.
They're both going to kind of crush equally.
unidentified
What did you pick up Celica?
That dates us.
joe rogan
People still have those.
guy fieri
Celicas were awesome.
joe rogan
I heard they were remaking that.
That's why.
I heard that they're going to bring back a Celica.
guy fieri
Celicas are awesome.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
guy fieri
What was your favorite of all time American muscle car?
joe rogan
Oh, that's hard.
That's hard.
I love them.
I got a lot of them.
I love...
Are they bringing back Celicas?
Might be an AI thing.
guy fieri
I heard something about it.
joe rogan
I don't have a favorite, but it's all...
I like between early...
You can get as low as 65 for a couple of them.
Like, I have a 65 Corvette that I love.
And then I think you get as old as 71 if you get into, like, the Barracudas and the Challengers, some of the Mopars.
But by 71, most of the Fords and the Chevys had fallen apart.
For whatever reason.
I think because they stopped doing drugs.
That's what I think.
I have a theory.
I have my psychedelic theory.
guy fieri
I've heard a lot of reasons they've stopped.
More EPA issues.
joe rogan
Well, EPA issues as well, but why make them ugly?
You can make them feel efficient without making them so ugly.
Something happened.
They lost their design language and everything started being flat and boring.
Except Corvette.
Corvette is another one.
They made good-looking Corvettes deep into the 70s because they still have that curvy body.
But if I had...
I don't know.
guy fieri
Well, Bowtie Mopar or Ford.
joe rogan
I love them all.
I'm not picking one.
I love them all.
I mean, I have a 70 Cuda.
I love that.
I have a 68 Mustang.
I love that.
I just...
Love that era of automobile.
And it's just like, it's also that era of culture.
I love the music and the fact that life was chaotic and, you know, there were so many changes in the culture.
There were so many changes in society.
guy fieri
Things were just, each year made up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, they went from Buddy Holly to Jimi Hendrix in a decade.
And everything was like, what is...
What's the baseline now?
guy fieri
My favorite movie is that Buddy Holly movie.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
guy fieri
With Gary Busey.
Remember that?
Buddy Holly and the Crickets and Gary Busey.
Oh, it was great.
That was a great flick.
No, I brought the Triple D Camaro.
joe rogan
That's...
guy fieri
I brought it...
I drove it over.
joe rogan
What is the Triple D Camaro?
guy fieri
68 Camaro.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
guy fieri
It's a 68 Camaro on an LT4.
It's basically a 2022 Corvette with a 68 body on it.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
guy fieri
I made two of them.
I've had...
A few different cars inside of the show.
joe rogan
Did you take the new Camaro and cut the body panels off and put the new ones on?
guy fieri
No, it took an old 68. There it is.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
guy fieri
That's me driving it out, too.
So we just made that car.
I made two of them.
No, that's not the picture of that.
But it is that car.
So we made two of them.
I had that one for the longest time.
joe rogan
So you put a different chassis in it and everything?
guy fieri
Yeah.
Detroit Racing's chassis.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
guy fieri
Great.
But it's...
I mean, it's just a monster.
LT4, Tremac 5-speed.
It's just...
But my boys were sitting there...
joe rogan
That's what I like.
Resto mods.
I don't want to drive something with drum brakes.
It doesn't stop.
Those are stupid.
guy fieri
Well, it's so funny to think...
I have a Trans Am and a bandit car.
And it's great, and I love it, and it's a great car.
And you drive it, and it's so nostalgic to drive, and it feels so good, and it doesn't rattle and all that.
But boy, you know...
My assistant's Camry can probably take it from the line.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, a Model 3 will leave you in the dust.
The Tesla?
guy fieri
Those Teslas are fast as shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's, I mean, as far as pure performance, there's nothing like those things.
Everything else is stupid.
Oh, is this what it is?
jamie vernon
Is this real?
Nothing official has been announced about this Celica.
joe rogan
Damn, that looks good.
jamie vernon
6-speed manual transmission.
joe rogan
Oh, that's Forbes, dude.
Click on Forbes.
jamie vernon
It's not showing up.
I've tried to click on it a million times.
I'm only getting...
I have to get the ads out of it, and then there's no pictures that show up.
joe rogan
Well, the one below it looks like...
That one that says 2025, that looks like a Dark Horse Mustang.
That doesn't even look like a Toyota.
jamie vernon
Most of these are all, I think, AI-generated pictures.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Isn't that weirdo?
unidentified
Yeah.
guy fieri
You can go on, and you can...
I fell for the Scarface 2 movie.
joe rogan
Oh, did you?
guy fieri
Yeah, there was something going on.
Maybe I had a couple of shots of Santa.
I was drinking a little bit.
But I was like, Scarface 2!
And they did this whole AI thing, and I'm like...
joe rogan
What I've been loving is little Theo Vaughn as a baby.
What's that?
Oh, yeah.
Theo Vaughn as a baby is my absolute favorite.
The AI babies that take podcast clips and have babies.
guy fieri
We were just having a security discussion the other day about...
You know, having so many words of mine on the internet or on TV or whatever, and then someone could put together a whole sentence.
And, you know, the security person said, you know, what would you do if they sent a message to your wife and made it sound like you?
I travel a lot.
I'm, you know, so-and-so.
And, you know, I need such...
I'm in Mexico and I need a hundred thousand bucks.
I'm, you know, locked up.
What would you guys do?
You know, and I'm like, that's a real thing?
Like, no, that is a real thing.
They're starting to extort money from people.
And, you know, granted, they're usually doing it to older people and so forth, but it's a real—this AI threat's a real thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one of the real things.
Yeah.
We're going to encounter a lot of unprecedented challenges to reality over the next few years.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
I mean, they're going to try.
To figure out ways to stop it while it's happening.
guy fieri
I think they're farther ahead of us.
joe rogan
Yeah, the technology is just...
It's reality-bending technology.
You could essentially, right now, just from the podcast that you and I have had so far, us talking, you could have us say anything forever.
They could do podcasts where you and I discuss fucking computer chips, the construction of them, Conversations about nuanced details of the technology that we don't understand.
It could be anything, a big foreign policy.
You could talk about anything, and it would all be AI-generated and no one would be able to tell.
There's a whole podcast out there of me talking to Steve Jobs.
I never met Steve Jobs.
guy fieri
No shit?
joe rogan
No.
guy fieri
Not no shit, you didn't meet Steve Jobs.
No shit on both of them.
joe rogan
I think it's like a 45-minute podcast of me and Steve Jobs having a conversation.
I never met him.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
They could do anything with your voice, man.
And it's like a little weird, like you can kind of tell it's fake.
But this is like, imagine if you go back just a few years ago, the AI-generated deep fakes of celebrities were super obvious.
And now they're not obvious at all.
guy fieri
Remember the Tom Cruise one?
That was the first one I ever saw.
And we're just on the cusp of it.
I think it's even deeper and more convoluted, more screwed up than we know.
But it's going to become something we're going to have to face because they're just so far ahead of our legislation that's even interested in trying to control it.
I don't even think they know what to control.
It's scary shit.
joe rogan
It is, but it's also like what is reality going to be?
Because what you're seeing right now is just a visual representation of what AI can do.
But what about once it starts being able to recreate experiences?
Because that's coming.
I mean, whether it's 20 years or 50 years, there's going to come a time, if you stay alive long enough, where you're not going to have to experience things.
You're going to be able to sit down and...
You know, just like the Matrix, it's just going to plug you in and you're going to experience something.
guy fieri
Okay.
Okay.
We're a little bit of the same age.
Do you not trip out that Dick Tracy had a square watch that looked like an Apple Watch?
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They would talk to it and everybody's like, that's nuts.
guy fieri
He's talking to his watch.
Okay, so did we...
This is like we should be drinking or something should be going on.
What happened?
Did Apple just, did we influence enough Apple people that they just decided to make it a square watch and make it look like Dick Tracy's watch?
Or did the Dick Tracy thing, did we already make the watch and did somebody go back and, I mean, do you ever sit there and trip on shit like that?
joe rogan
I definitely don't.
guy fieri
You don't.
joe rogan
No, not about that.
I think Square is just a normal shape for a frame.
guy fieri
Not a watch you talk into, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's just a screen.
unidentified
Star Trek?
joe rogan
It's just a tiny screen.
Yeah, but the Star Trek thing was a fucking walkie-talkie.
Kirk out, and they'd hang up.
guy fieri
But then we made the Star Trek.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But that was also, you know, life-imitating art.
It's not art.
guy fieri
Okay, we'll go back to Matrix then.
Because I think of the Matrix things all the time.
Like, how real, how possible is that?
We used to watch that cartoon.
There was a movie my kid watched when he was little about the people that all went and lived.
It wasn't too long.
It was maybe 10, 15 years ago.
About the people all lived in a spaceship and the little robot and the plant grew and everybody was heavyset.
Nobody walked.
They were all in space.
What is it called?
Was it WALL-E?
At the little robot thing?
joe rogan
Oh, the movie, yeah.
guy fieri
Yeah, the movie thing?
joe rogan
The Pixar movie.
guy fieri
Yeah.
And you sit there and look at that stuff and you're like, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what's really happening.
guy fieri
Okay, so you didn't buy my Dick Tracy idea, but I think that the other stuff is, I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, when you think about where this is all headed, there's only a few different directions that one could go to, and simulated reality is a big one.
I think that's inevitable.
Because I think you're going to get more sedentary people, more people that are very uncomfortable with their own lives and want to live a different life, and then you're going to be able to have experiences.
Just like when kids play Call of Duty all day long.
Like, what are they doing?
They're playing war with zero consequences, where they're able to kill people with zero consequences, get killed, respawn.
And they're doing it all day long just for the experience.
Well, what happens when that experience is far more vivid?
You're feeling things.
You feel gravity.
Your feet feel the concrete underneath you and the gravel you're stepping on.
They're going to be able to recreate all that stuff.
Whether they do it with an implant or whether they do it with a helmet that you wear that sort of interacts with your brain, sends signals into your visual cortex and recreates experiences.
It's coming.
guy fieri
You're taking this way past my Dick Tracy watch thing.
jamie vernon
Yeah, look at this robot.
guy fieri
Oh, I saw this yesterday.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at this dancing robot.
jamie vernon
That looks so weird.
joe rogan
It's so weird because they're moving like a human moves.
And then eventually they're going to realize this human design kind of sucks.
Let's make something that's better than a human.
guy fieri
Did you see the one where the robot whacked out?
The AI robot went crazy and they were trying to stop it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, in China.
joe rogan
It started flailing on everybody.
Well, it's going to be powered by AI and AI is not going to probably have the best opinion of us because a lot of us are annoying.
guy fieri
Deep shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
guy fieri
We're talking about food and cars and...
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
That's deep.
joe rogan
It's a weird time.
It's a weird time for change because we're like riding this technological wave and we don't know when it's going to break and where it's going to break.
What's going to happen?
guy fieri
Are we cart and horse?
Are we horse and buggy and automobile?
I mean, is that the energy?
Is that the space that we're in?
Think about all those people that were in that era.
joe rogan
Yeah, but those buggies are shit.
They went 45 miles an hour, top speed.
guy fieri
They were pretty amazing for somebody that didn't.
There's no horse at the end of it and it's driving you down the road.
What's that noise?
joe rogan
What I'm getting at is I think that the change is going to be way more radical than just going from a horse to a Model T. I think it's going to be...
There's a lot of people that believe we're already in a simulation.
And not a lot of people like kooks and people with schizophrenia, but like actual real scientists, including Elon, he said that the odds of us not being in a simulation are in the billions.
Because the idea is that...
If technology increases, one day there will be a simulation that will be so good you will not be able to distinguish whether or not it's real.
And so then the question is when will you know whether that's taken place and has that already taken place?
guy fieri
The Matrix.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
Essentially what The Matrix was.
joe rogan
Similar.
guy fieri
But that's that same thing I was saying about Dick Tracy Watch.
Where did that come from?
joe rogan
The Disney watch seems kind of obvious.
It's a square.
guy fieri
Yeah, but I'm just still saying that...
unidentified
Like a TV.
joe rogan
Your TV's a square.
guy fieri
Most watches were round, then all of a sudden it became a square.
I don't know.
Anyhow.
Not to get stuck on that.
joe rogan
Well, it's because it's crazy.
He's sci-fi.
Look, it's a square.
Like, look at the Jetsons.
guy fieri
But I go back to the thing with the...
Somebody...
I mean, you were talking about people doing drugs and designing cars.
Who sat around and said, okay, let's make up this movie where you take the pill and you're in the system, you're out of the system.
We're plugging in the back of the head.
You grow energy.
You are the energy source now.
Like, we use cows for, you know, grinding grain.
Are we going to become that?
And so forth.
You think about it.
What was that?
Matrix 20 years ago?
joe rogan
At least.
guy fieri
That's pretty advanced.
joe rogan
The Matrix was in the 90s, right?
What year was that, Jamie?
95?
No, no, it was 99. 99?
guy fieri
But still.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
What we know about AI, we can look at it and go make sense.
joe rogan
March 31st, 99. I'm sure they wrote it even earlier than that.
So, yeah, and back then, no one had any.
So if you're dealing with 99, that's the infancy of the internet itself.
guy fieri
Pretty big thinking.
jamie vernon
I stumbled across this when we were talking about something the other day.
This guy wrote a book in 1960 called The Man-Computer Symbiosis, which...
joe rogan
A concept of a human-computer collaboration, and this is 1960, where computers would augment human capabilities in decision-making and complex tasks.
This vision involved computers facilitating both the solution of formulated problems and the formulation of problems themselves, essentially creating a partnership where humans and computers could work together more efficiently.
Or more effectively than either could alone.
Well, that's happening right now.
guy fieri
That's already happening.
unidentified
1960.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's real.
guy fieri
What was the guy's name?
Lick.
jamie vernon
Licklider.
J.C.R.
Licklider.
joe rogan
Strange name, Mr. Licklider.
Yeah, man-computer symbiosis.
Look at that guy.
Look at him.
He looks like the type of guy would think up shit like that.
guy fieri
Licklider.
joe rogan
Looks like he'd be trolling for prostitutes, too.
Just saying.
I mean, maybe he did.
guy fieri
Of course he didn't.
joe rogan
I'm sure he didn't.
It looks like one of those guys.
It's just a...
It's a very tumultuous time because the change is coming so fast and no one knows what to do with it.
You know, and they...
There's...
Not enough laws to really stop it.
And even if you did have the laws, China's not going to stop.
Russia's not going to stop.
guy fieri
And who do you go to for an answer?
I mean, it's like there's so many people that are so susceptible to it.
And it's just free will.
I mean, it's just it's out there and people don't even know how to harness it or even understand what they're getting duped into or whatever the case may be.
It's like the things that people are putting on the Internet and it lives in perpetuity.
I mean, it's not going anywhere.
joe rogan
Well, this is all surface-level stuff.
The really crazy stuff is control of the power grid, alternative technology, alternative power sources.
It's going to get very, very, very strange inside of our lifetime.
But people are always going to need food, bro.
You know, AI is not going to make you a yummy sandwich.
guy fieri
Give them time.
joe rogan
You think?
guy fieri
Nah, I don't know.
joe rogan
There's something about handmade things that people are always going to enjoy.
Human beings know that someone...
It's like when you go to a nice restaurant and you have a nice meal, one of the things you know is that a person did this.
It's part of it.
Like, damn, they nailed it.
You know, when you're eating a perfectly cooked steak, oh, this guy nailed this.
guy fieri
Well, it's listening to...
It depends on your kind of music, but listening to music when somebody's up there riffing a guitar versus somebody making a guitar sound.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you're experiencing the person performing.
Like you're watching someone up there jamming.
guy fieri
I think the big thing in food, like one of my positions on it, and I always tell people, you know, like, oh, you're the guy that does that show about deep fried cheeseburgers and pizza.
I'm like, no, no, you don't watch the show enough if that's what you think, because I'm super opinionated about, not opinionated, but I have a real responsibility, I think, to show the profile of food in the world or, you know, in the United States.
We've got to get our shit straight about what we're eating.
We're just, we can't eat this processed food.
I mean, processed food is, you're not eating it.
I mean, we got to eat the basics and eat great food and eat great food made correctly.
But something that was made a long time ago, don't get me wrong, there's a place for everything.
There's a place for fast food.
There's a place for, you know, things that are pre-made and so forth.
But it can't be all of one thing.
But people need to eat better.
And, you know, you being a hunter and myself, I talk to people all about it all the time.
You know, this is a reality that if you eat things that are modified, I'm not saying genetically modified doesn't have a place, but it can't be all the same stuff.
And if we don't watch it, we're going to get ourselves in some deep shit.
And we're already in deep shit.
Cancer's, you know, where's the heart attack?
Where's the stuff that was plaguing us for so many generations?
And now this cancer thing, I lost my sister to cancer, I lost my dad to cancer.
I run into more people on a daily basis that are, you know, stricken with cancer.
And I think food has a, you know, The type of food and what's put on the food.
That's a big play.
joe rogan
It's definitely a factor.
There's a lot of factors.
There's environmental factors.
There's toxins, herbicides, pesticides.
There's a lot of different factors.
I was just reading this thing about golf courses.
Or watching a video, rather, on golf courses.
That if you live within a certain radius of a golf course, you have a much higher possibility of getting Parkinson's disease.
guy fieri
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, here it is.
Parkinson's risk higher for those living close to a golf course.
What does it say?
126%?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
So, I found people living within one mile of a golf course have 126% higher risk of developing...
What happened?
126% higher risk of developing Parkinson's disease compared to living more than six miles away, said co-author Dr. Ray Dorsey, a neurologist and the director of the Center for the Brain and the Environment at Atria Health and Research Institute in New York.
This isn't the first study that links Parkinson's disease with pesticides.
This just adds additional evidence that this isn't just happening among farmers.
This is happening to people living in suburban areas that have an increased risk of I met a guy once that...
He had bone cancer, and he had one of his bones in his legs replaced with a rod.
And he said that there's an enormous percentage of people in his neighborhood that had bone cancer and all kinds of different cancers, and it was all linked to this golf course.
The runoff from the golf course had gotten into the water table and the water supply of all these people.
Yeah, it's dangerous, and that shit's not even legal in a lot of countries.
That's what's crazy.
That's glyphosate.
I think they're linking this golf course thing to glyphosate as well, aren't they?
jamie vernon
It's just pesticides in general.
I'm even looking at it now.
This is a contentious new study, which obviously it would be, but I'm trying to see what the contention is or why.
joe rogan
You know what's spooky, man?
There's a lot of rich folks who live on golf courses, and they think, like, hey, what a great life.
I wonder how many more of those fuckers are getting Parkinson's disease because of that.
Scary shit, man.
guy fieri
You think about the other countries.
We don't talk about a lot in our country, but what they ban in other countries of our products.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
guy fieri
And just how they're holding the line.
I remember when I lived in France.
I lived right outside of Paris in a town called Chantilly.
We'd call it Chantilly, where it's the term Chantilly Lay, Chantilly Cream that comes from.
But I remember I was there.
I was 16. And I wrote my parents, and I'm like, food just tastes different here.
I mean, I don't care if it's a steak and a potato.
It just tastes different.
joe rogan
Because it's grass-fed steak.
They don't have grain-fed steak over there.
I noticed that the first time I went to Australia.
I had a steak.
I'm like, this tastes like game.
guy fieri
Everything tastes good.
It's funny because we go to school.
The lunch that we had at school was because I lived in this boarding house.
I rented a room from this family and they were terrible cooks.
I didn't think you'd go to France.
Everybody cooked good.
But anyhow, I went to high school.
I looked forward to lunch at school.
It was the best school lunch in the world.
You'd sit at a table like this.
There were eight kids and they would come by with a cart and they'd put down a hotel pan full of, you know, whatever vegetable, whatever starch, whatever meat.
We'd sit there and we had all the French bread we could eat.
And it was just like, I looked forward to it so much.
It was such great food.
I just never got it.
Well, and then I got older and started cooking, and I kind of went, oh, really?
So the funny thing was I went back to France 25, 30 years later, took my oldest son, Hunter, with me.
We did a whole tour through Europe when he graduated high school.
I took him to seven countries and 14 cities in 30 days.
And we did this whole tour of where food came from.
But I took him back to Chantilly, and I went to the grocery store.
Because my best friend from school still lived there.
And I walked into the grocery store.
And what had been a grocery store full of huge aisles of fresh produce and breads and everything you could imagine was now just freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer, freezer.
joe rogan
Really?
guy fieri
And I said to Vince, I go, his name is Vincent.
I said, Vincent, what?
And he's like...
Going to be more like Americans.
That was his, you know, kind of joking.
But it had changed so dramatically.
I was like, this is like, it was shattering.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think fresh food is really the only thing that people are supposed to be actually eating all the time.
Real food.
I mean, the more that you can get to a farmer's market, the more that you can have relationships with ranchers and people that actually provide you food, the healthier you're going to be.
And the further you get away from the source, the more you're going to have preservatives, the more you're going to have processed food.
Stay away from the inside of the supermarket.
All that stuff on the inside.
I mean, there's condiments and stuff, but most of it's bullshit.
The outside.
Vegetables, meats, eggs, all that stuff that's on the outside, all that refrigerated area on the outside, that's all you're supposed to be actually eating.
All that stuff that's in the middle is just fucking your life up for the most part.
Obviously, it's a generalization.
Plenty of good stuff in the middle.
guy fieri
Yeah, and I think that there is circumstances.
Not everybody has the same budget and so forth, but I do believe that...
The reality of it is education is a big thing.
Education for people about what to do with real food and how to handle it and so forth.
I remember home ec was a great class when I was a sophomore in high school.
Home ec, I took home ec.
It was almost all girls.
But I was in it because I wanted to see what the...
I didn't want to sew.
But I did want to learn, you know, how to make a blackberry pie.
And I just think those simple fundamentals should still be something that are taught in schools, like just how to make a roasted chicken.
Like, give them six months of roasting chicken.
You know, how do you cook a potato?
You know, just the basics.
Because there's a lot of people that, you know, my son included, my son Ryder, you know, we did a crash course.
I always made him cook with me in the kitchen, but it was usually begrudgingly, you know, he'd make things that he'd like to make pizza.
Let's make pizza.
You know, tacos.
But even that little thing like how to sear a steak, you know, what's done, what's not done, what's overseen, you know, those things.
We're missing that, you know.
So you said go to AI Food.
unidentified
I mean, scary shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We've been bamboozled, you know, and corporations, you know, the same corporations that used to, well, still do, own tobacco companies, bought out all these big processed food corporations.
I mean, this is something that RFK Jr. has talked in depth about.
And then they started using the same tactics to get people hooked on these processed foods.
And these processed foods are essentially designed to make them incredibly addictive.
And they're cheap.
And people just consume them en masse.
And it becomes a large percentage of the calories you take in.
It's going to take a long time for people to adjust and switch away from that.
Because it's easy to destroy something.
It's very hard to rebuild.
And they've kind of destroyed our health.
guy fieri
But it goes hand in hand because when you start thinking about this cancer thing and how devastating it is, I'm like, we can't really solve this?
And then you listen to some other sides that will say, big business.
You don't make money securing people.
It's one and done.
It's over.
I don't know.
It weirds me out.
We have, you know, you've got such a massive platform and I talk, you heard my little pitch there at the beginning of Food Network, real food for real people.
I'm not saying these restaurants I shoot on Triple D, you should go eat every single day because not every one of them is, you know, always the healthiest situation.
I think you need to have a good balance between things.
But it's okay to have indulgence.
It's okay to have your pizza experience.
But we just need to get back to some...
Balance of it.
Because we're imbalanced, is my feeling.
joe rogan
But then again, you're always going to have bad examples that are good for people to realize, I don't want to live like that guy's living.
You want to see someone who's morbidly obese, terrible diet, no enthusiasm for life, because they're poisoned.
And then you see a guy who's super healthy and exercising all the time, he's got tons of energy.
That's what I like.
You need to see bad examples, too.
It's part of the human experience.
guy fieri
Moderation is my favorite thing that I talk about.
I got into, I don't know, about three or four years ago, I got into Cold Plunge.
Thank you, by the way.
You're a great advocate and you were a great inspiration on it.
I started doing it and then everybody would tell me that you're doing it.
So I listened to some of the things you do.
I do it in the morning.
It's great.
It's a life changer.
Some mornings it sucks.
I mean, I really have to force myself.
joe rogan
It sucks every day.
guy fieri
I'm going into this.
This is bullshit.
Okay, I'll just get through five minutes and I'm good.
I'll just listen to Paul Harvey.
I listen to Paul Harvey in the morning.
unidentified
That's my favorite.
joe rogan
Really?
Paul Harvey?
Why Paul Harvey?
guy fieri
The rest of the story.
joe rogan
Why Paul Harvey?
guy fieri
Because I love history.
And I love to learn the little nuances of how things came about.
And it was something that reminds me of my childhood.
You know, we'd listen to it in shop class when I was in high school.
And it was always that quick little in-between break.
You know, they were syndicated.
Pretty, I don't know, interesting guy.
There's a whole bunch out there.
joe rogan
Oh, he was great.
I listen to music, too.
guy fieri
I have my set of music that I listen to that I know this is.
I'm going to do a 10-minute plunge or 12-minute plunge, depending on the song, and if I can keep myself out of it.
Because as soon as I start worrying about it, thinking I'm cold.
But I don't do it at your temperature.
You do it at crazy temperature.
unidentified
I do like 38, 39. I heard you're like in the...
joe rogan
I do whatever.
guy fieri
No, I heard you're in the 33s.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
It's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
It's no different.
guy fieri
It's just cold.
joe rogan
It's just cold.
It's no different.
guy fieri
I was telling your buddies earlier.
So I have friends that will come and do it.
I started with my cold punch.
I started with a watering trough and put ice in it.
So that was the way I started.
You know that you get that little thermal barrier around you.
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
Okay?
And then you have to, you know, you got to move or something.
Okay, you move.
Now you're cold.
Then I went to a freezer and built one out of a freezer.
joe rogan
Oh, like one of them big game freezers?
guy fieri
Yeah.
Big Westing house or whatever it was.
Freezer.
A little filter in it.
It had a little...
You'd plug the freezer into the thermostat and then the thermostat into the wall and then you'd put a little temperature in there and it would regulate itself so it didn't turn into a block of ice.
But every time I got in, I had to unplug it because they're not UL-rated for humans to be in them.
joe rogan
Right, right.
guy fieri
So then a buddy of mine, this guy Jamie Weeks, sent me one from Sweathouse, his company.
And then I got in real cold plunge.
Well, that water circulates.
joe rogan
What difference?
Is like a blue cube.
Like blue cube is one we have out here.
That one you can turn into a raging river.
It's got different selections.
So you can have like a little...
If you get in it normal, it's just a slow, steady circulation.
Nothing crazy.
But you can click that bitch one or two.
And at two, that motherfucker's a raging river.
guy fieri
It's just rolling on you?
joe rogan
And it's hard to do a minute in that bitch.
It's hard to do a minute.
guy fieri
Because you do get that little thermal barrier.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no barrier in the blue cube.
guy fieri
No, this one is called Plunge.
They're out of Sacramento.
These guys, great tub.
joe rogan
The thing about it is, like, I don't know what the benefit is other than it sucking more.
I think your body temperature stays the same because it's like, just by, I guess...
You don't feel as bad because your body, like in a regular cold plunge because your body develops that thermal barrier, but you're still cold as shit.
And you get all the benefits.
I don't think you have to suffer through that raging river thing.
But if you want the mental benefits, the benefits of overcoming adversity and the ability to just force yourself to do something that's intolerable, then I would recommend doing that.
If you're one of those people that really enjoys torturing themselves.
Get a blue cube.
guy fieri
I push people on this, and so they'll get, I was telling you guys, so a buddy come over, and I'm not doing it, I'm doing it.
Just do one minute.
If you do one minute, I'll get off it.
I'll quit busting your balls about it, about you being, you know.
Okay, get in there.
So then I'll start talking to my, okay, I got a timer going.
And they'll go, okay, talk about this, and I'll freeze my ass off.
Okay, give me your favorite song.
Which favorite song?
Then I'll look the song up, take my time.
Hank Williams, Country Boy Can't Survive.
Okay, okay, ready?
I'm going to play it for you.
You're doing good.
You've got 30 more seconds.
It's already been two minutes.
Play Country Boy Can't Survive.
How many of the words do you know to this song?
Besides the hook, what do you know of the song?
I'll sit there and just mess with them.
They'll go four minutes.
And I'll say, okay, and stop.
They go, that was a minute?
Bullshit, that song's over.
And I'm like, that was like five and a half minutes, you see?
joe rogan
It's mental.
guy fieri
It is mental.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's mental.
If you can distract yourself, it's...
guy fieri
That's why I follow Harvey.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's why watching a movie while you're on a treadmill is a total cheat code.
Because if you can get, like, an iPad and put earplugs on and watch a movie, you'll get absorbed in the movie.
You won't even think about the fact that you're running.
guy fieri
You know what I watch?
What?
Ridiculousness.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a good thing to watch.
guy fieri
I fucking love it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
I love ridiculousness.
I went on there.
To me...
Dyrdek's comments are the funniest.
All those guys, they've cracked me up.
Except for having to fight through a commercial here and there, because that'll remind you that you're still on the elliptical.
Are you a treadmill guy or an elliptical guy?
joe rogan
I don't do either of those, generally.
I mean, sometimes I'll do a treadmill with a weighted pack on.
guy fieri
Who do you use for a weighted pack?
joe rogan
What I use?
Outdoorsman's.
It's a pack that has a post on the back of it, so I can actually put...
Big plates on it.
guy fieri
Yeah.
That's fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
What kind of weight are you talking?
joe rogan
Mostly when I go for long walks, I just put 45 on.
So the pack is probably 5 pounds and then the 45 pound plate and then I take the dog out.
But if I'm doing hardcore workouts, I put 90 on it.
So I'll put two plates.
And then there's a great machine called...
See if you can find it, Jamie.
I think it's called the Hit Sled.
And it's like you do a farmer's carry.
So it has plate posts on either side, and you lift it up, and it's at an angle.
So as you're walking, you're carrying...
guy fieri
Is the one you step inside of?
joe rogan
No.
No, no, no.
It's just a treadmill.
It's like a treadmill that's at an angle.
That's it.
What's it called, Jamie?
Yeah, the Hit-Mail X. Oh, that!
guy fieri
It's a whole unit itself.
joe rogan
That motherfucker's the shit.
That thing is the shit.
guy fieri
And is that the tensioner in the front?
joe rogan
Well, so you've got the ability to adjust incline, I think.
Is that a just incline?
Or is it static?
Either way.
Whatever that incline is.
And then you have those weight posts on the side.
So you're lifting weight up and you're carrying weight.
So that guy's got 45 on each side.
So he's carrying 90 pounds while you're walking uphill.
And woo!
That'll get you in some shape.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Baby!
That'll get you in some shape.
guy fieri
Ass kicker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
What do you cook?
joe rogan
Mostly meat.
Mostly what I eat is meat.
That's like 90% of my diet.
Meat and eggs.
guy fieri
What's your cheat?
What's your indulgent...
joe rogan
My daughter is a really good chef.
Not a good chef, a good baker.
She's great at cookies.
Every time she's cooking, I'm like, God damn it.
She's making me some cookies.
She's really good, though.
They're really legit.
She made these cookies, these peanut butter chocolate chip cookies with Nutella.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
They're good.
guy fieri
Can you do just one or two or do you house the plate?
joe rogan
Well, I work out a lot, so I allow myself to eat like a pig every now and then.
But for me, cheat food is always either Italian or Mexican.
I love good Mexican food.
I love good Italian food.
If I'm going to pig out and I'm going to eat something that I know is just for mouth pleasure, it's probably going to be Mexican or Italian.
guy fieri
Carbs.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
guy fieri
Oh, so addictive.
I find the more I stay away from them, the less addicted I am to them.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
guy fieri
And then as soon as I have them, I find myself gravitating back into, you know.
joe rogan
I look forward to going to New York just for Italian food.
Because, like, Austin is great for barbecue and steaks and Tex-Mex.
Mexican food's great here.
There's a lot of great food in Austin, but there's not a lot of...
Legitimate Italian spots, like there was in LA.
LA had some legit Italian spots.
guy fieri
Chicago.
joe rogan
Chicago's got great Italian food.
New York, though.
guy fieri
One of my favorite food cities is Chicago.
joe rogan
East Coast Italian food, to me, there's nothing like it.
It's like, that's it.
That's the epicenter for me.
Like, old school East Coast Italian sandwiches and pasta and pizza.
guy fieri
And there's something about walking into a deli.
In Rhode Island, in New York, whatever.
It just smells different.
The floor creaks.
They're fresh-cutting the slices.
joe rogan
People are fired up.
They're so excited to get that fucking sandwich.
guy fieri
The meatballs taste different.
So Federal Hill in Rhode Island is a real famous Italian.
It shows up there a couple times, but it's not too far from where my wife's family lived.
I just remember going up there and going to the delis and getting those cherry pepper stuff with prosciutto and provolone and just, you know, I'll take six of them and then I'll take 18 to go.
I would always, you know, bring them all back to California.
Just can't find anything like it.
joe rogan
You know what else I miss on the East Coast that you don't really get out here is a legit Jewish deli.
Like a cat's deli.
Like someone needs to figure out a way to do something like that here where you can get like a legit...
Pastrami Rubin, like a real one, you know?
guy fieri
But the question I have about that, that's what people ask me all the time.
When I first started Triple D, you could only get true Tex-Mex or great Mexican food really in this Texas, Arizona, Nevada, California, down in this pocket.
But I will say that now I'm starting to find...
Because typically it's the people migrating to these different areas.
I went to a Mexican joint on Triple D in Minneapolis.
And it's a Mexican market.
It's the whole thing.
And it was better than 85% of the joints that I've tried in these regions I was just talking about.
So I'm starting to find this...
Better cross-pollination of foods in different regions.
joe rogan
When people move.
guy fieri
Yeah, exactly.
But you've got to have the market.
See, the market is the key because who are they going to sell it to if people don't get it?
Because a fatty brisket from Cat's Deli is just a different...
You've got to have the mindset.
I've taken people there so many times and like...
It's this much meat, and there's little pieces of bread, and I'm eating meat the whole time.
I'm like, yeah, it's part of the idea.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
guy fieri
I got a good one for you, too.
joe rogan
You ruined it for me.
guy fieri
First time I went to Canceli.
So I'm in there filming Food Network Star.
I had a day off.
My buddy lived in New York.
A guy that was on the show with me.
He said, I'm going to take you to Cat's Deli.
joe rogan
I love Cat's Instagram so I can see some visuals while this is going on.
I'm addicted to their Instagram page.
guy fieri
Do you have any fucking sandwiches?
joe rogan
No, I wish you did.
guy fieri
So I thought I was going to bring you food today when I went and did the thing.
And I'm like, nah, I'm not taking Joe, the vegan food.
I'm not going to take this.
joe rogan
Yeah, please don't do that.
guy fieri
I'm not going to take the beating.
joe rogan
Don't give me that.
I had elk sausage for breakfast.
guy fieri
Oh, I love elk.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Oh, come on, baby.
Look at Katz's Deli.
Look at that.
Look at that pastrami.
It says keto.
Keto pastrami.
Oh, my God, I'm eating healthy.
How is it keto?
Oh, no bread.
Oh, they're just giving you the...
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
Look at that.
guy fieri
Is this supposed to be torture right now?
joe rogan
Look how good that looks.
Oh my god!
I love Katz's Deli.
guy fieri
I do too.
joe rogan
I try to go every time I'm in New York.
Those guys, I see the same fucking dudes that I've been going.
Since I was going there in like the early 2000s, I've run into the same guys working there.
These guys that have been there for 25, 30 years.
guy fieri
And they're such good dudes.
Great guys.
And I'll eat more snacks over the counter.
Yeah, they give you a little piece.
joe rogan
They always do that at Cats.
They give you a little piece and they have a tip jar.
guy fieri
So if people haven't been to Cats, when you go into Cats, you know, but I'm telling them.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking sandwich, man.
guy fieri
When you go to Cats, they give you a chit.
They give you a ticket.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to pay in cash.
guy fieri
Okay, so they don't take credit cards.
joe rogan
You better have cash.
guy fieri
So you pass a ticket over the counter.
They mark off what they gave you.
So then you take a ticket and you sit down and you eat your food.
And then when you leave, you go out and you check out with your ticket.
So my buddy and I go.
And I order up.
We order up all the stuff.
I'm paying.
So we put it all on my ticket.
So we had a bunch of sandwiches, a bunch of beers.
So we're leaving and I turn my ticket in and I pay my bill.
And they look at my buddy and they say, where's your ticket?
And he goes, I didn't get anything.
I put it on his ticket.
I said, no, no, no.
You got to turn your ticket in.
And it says right there, lost ticket, you know, 300 bucks or whatever the ticket would be worth if it was all checked off.
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
And I'm like...
But he didn't have anything.
It's all...
You can see it.
And they're like, you gotta have your ticket or you pay the...
And I'm like, what the...
I mean, I've never been to a place like this.
So we go back over to the table where he'd been sitting.
Well, they'd already turned the table and it's all gone and done.
And now there's four big construction dudes sitting there.
Huge.
In the yellow vest, hard hats on, total New Yorkers.
My buddy wasn't from New York.
And he goes...
And we're like, excuse me, fine sirs.
You know, and I don't have, you know, again, still in the same yellow jacket, bleached hair.
And my buddy's standing there, and he's from, like, Iowa.
Like, you guys see a ticket?
And, like, what the you want?
Like, get out of here!
joe rogan
You're interrupting their meal.
guy fieri
Yeah, exactly what we're doing there on a lunch break.
We're looking for a ticket, and my buddy happens to see the ticket on the floor underneath the biggest guy's boot, like halfway.
He's like, ticket's right there.
I'm like, I'm not getting the ticket.
You're the dumbass who lost the ticket.
unidentified
Get the ticket.
guy fieri
So I think we had to buy the guy's, like, you know, we had to buy him something or pay the tip or whatever for the guy to move his boot, and we got the ticket.
It was a tumultuous experience.
I go with people now, and I'm like...
Take the ticket.
Put it in your wallet right now.
I'll pay the meal, but just don't lose the ticket.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to be prepared for the experience because it's not like anything else.
guy fieri
But it's the bomb.
joe rogan
But it's worth it.
It's worth it.
You get the best fucking corned beef.
The nicest people.
The nicest people.
guy fieri
Characters in that place, man.
joe rogan
The pastrami's off the fucking chain.
That pastrami's insane.
I get the same thing every time just because it's so good I don't want to switch up.
I got a pastrami Reuben.
guy fieri
In the exact same way.
joe rogan
Incredible pickles.
Their pickles are amazing.
guy fieri
The slaw.
So I love the thing they have on there.
You see that one back wall, send a salami to a sailor.
That whole campaign that was going on still is something that needs to be done.
joe rogan
Well, they've been around since the 1800s.
guy fieri
Such the joint.
joe rogan
Same spot.
But there's a thing about places like that where there's this deep history.
You feel it when you're in there.
You get a smile on your face when you walk in the door because it's just this incredible history.
You feel like, wow, this place is still around.
It's still the same.
Let's get him to the counter.
Oh, he's chopping it up.
unidentified
Look at that.
guy fieri
My mouth.
This is like torture.
My mouth.
joe rogan
I know.
That's what I love about going to New York and eating there.
I like walking into a pizzeria and smelling everything.
And seeing the guy pulling the pies out of the oven, like, oh!
guy fieri
I love it.
And they're not always the cleanest.
And the counters are worn out.
Who cares?
unidentified
Exactly.
guy fieri
It's part of the charm.
joe rogan
If they redid it, it would fuck it up.
guy fieri
Yeah, you go and remodel and it's not going to happen.
joe rogan
Oh my god, if you redid Cats' deli, I'd fucking slap you.
How dare you?
How dare you take all the pictures of dead celebrities off the wall?
Like, you know, that's part of it.
The fucking...
guy fieri
You ever been to DeFaro's over in Brooklyn?
joe rogan
No.
guy fieri
Pizza?
joe rogan
No.
guy fieri
Old guy there cuts the basil with scissors.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
guy fieri
I remember standing there and just looking at the pizza come out.
And it doesn't look like, I mean, it's just next level pizza.
You've been to Reos?
joe rogan
No, where's that?
guy fieri
Rios is in Harlem.
It's an Italian joint.
We'll call my Uncle Bo.
R-A-O-S.
unidentified
Okay.
guy fieri
And it is the old school.
I mean, this is an Italian joint that you can only get in if you know somebody, you're with somebody.
Tiny little place, maybe 15 tables.
joe rogan
There it is.
Since 1896.
Wow.
guy fieri
And I tell you.
So you tell me when you're in New York next and I'll call my Uncle Bo.
joe rogan
What street is it on?
Click on New York.
What does it say with the address is?
Yeah.
East 114th Street.
Wow.
The original.
guy fieri
The floor is all slanted.
Like if you're sitting at the wrong part of the table, you're sitting having dinner kind of cockeyed like this.
Everybody's on top of each other.
It's all family.
It's an experience.
But that's what you talk about.
Because then I went to Rayo's in Vegas when they put one in Caesars.
Same pictures on the wall, same all that stuff, but it just didn't have...
It was good, but it just wasn't that real.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That looks amazing.
guy fieri
That's the table I sit at right back there.
joe rogan
Another place I fucking love is Peter Luger's.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Peter Luger's in Brooklyn.
guy fieri
You being a meat guy?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
And they bring that steak to your plate, and it's covered in butter, and it's crackling.
guy fieri
I don't even eat the sides.
Look at that.
joe rogan
They just have it down, too.
It's so consistent.
Every time you go, the steak is exactly perfectly cooked.
guy fieri
You've been to Jeff Ruby's?
joe rogan
Where's that?
guy fieri
He's got Nashville, Louisville, Cincinnati.
Jeff Ruby's a character amongst characters.
If you ever get a chance to go to one of his steakhouses, this guy...
They crush steak.
I mean, some of my favorite steak in the country.
I was just at the Derby, and I was at his place, and I ate steak, and I took Taylor Sheridan there, and they were pretty shit.
They were like, Taylor, you know, meat guy, meat guy.
joe rogan
Oh, you're friends with Taylor?
guy fieri
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was just with him Saturday night.
He did the commencement speech at UT.
guy fieri
Great guy.
I mean, you know.
joe rogan
Incredible speech, man.
His speech, he fucking killed it.
guy fieri
He is.
He walks the talk.
There's no bullshit about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love that too.
guy fieri
He helped me with the fundraiser.
We do.
So I do a lot of philanthropy.
That's my, you know, being a dad was my biggest job, my biggest responsibility.
Husband, restaurateur, chef, all that.
But my end game is my philanthropy.
Philanthropy to me, I mean, I have so much opportunity and there's so many good things coming my way.
I try to divert as much of that towards doing it.
So my philanthropy is about first responders.
First responders, active military and veterans.
But now that I have this program going where we can do things to raise money, and it's not just raise money, it's raise the money and then do things with it.
Like when the fires happened in LA, we went down with our team, we have a big rescue trailer that's 50 feet long.
We can feed about 5,000 a day out of it.
And I have a bunch of chef buddies, and so they all come and help, and we just pump out food for first responders.
But I was doing, we had the fires in Maui.
And devastation.
And I know the fire feeling because I was up there in Northern California in Sonoma County when we had our bad fires.
And so we raised money.
So I got 40 chefs together.
We were all in town doing, I do a show called Tournament of Champions.
They were in town for the tournament.
And we put on a dinner for 150 people.
So I called Taylor and said, hey, I'm doing this event.
You want to come up?
And he says, only if I get to cook.
You know, we're going to cook together.
So we brought up all these, you know, four sixes, these tomahawk chops the size of, you know, a manhole cover.
And we cooked.
And so we sat there and we raised money and we did all these different things like, you know, go to Four Sixes Ranch.
You can go be here.
You can go, you know, have a culinary experience with Guy, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And in one night, we raised $1.7 million with 150 people in the room.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
guy fieri
And a big part of that was Taylor.
I think three of the biggest packages sold were for over $100,000 to go down to his ranch.
No, actually, it was to go up to Montana to Yellowstone to see the filming.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
guy fieri
He's just that kind of dude, man.
That dude, everybody, he gives everybody the time.
I mean, we were just at the Derby walking around together.
Just a class act.
We just love that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's legit.
guy fieri
And the what?
The shows he's making?
joe rogan
I know.
I don't know how he can do it.
guy fieri
Landman?
joe rogan
Well, I don't know how he does so many shows.
I keep finding shows.
I'm like, this show looks interesting.
Taylor Sheridan show.
Like, what?
guy fieri
Lioness?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got like 10 shows.
guy fieri
Have you watched Landman?
joe rogan
Yeah, I love it.
I'm a huge Billy Bob fan.
guy fieri
Oh, and he's the coolest.
joe rogan
He's the best.
guy fieri
I said to him, I go, did you write that for him?
I mean, it couldn't be Billy Bob any goddamn better.
The one-liners are the best goddamn thing.
I can't get enough of it.
But I love Mayor of Kingstown.
That was great.
joe rogan
That was another one.
guy fieri
Remember the starting, the first episode?
You didn't see that shit coming.
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
Right at the beginning, the guy that you thought was going to be the lead, you didn't think it was going to be Jerry?
joe rogan
Spoiler alert.
guy fieri
If you haven't watched it by now, you're missing it.
Tough shit.
joe rogan
Sorry I blew it for you.
It's another Taylor show.
He's got so many shows.
I just don't understand how he can put together so 1923, 1883, Yellowstone.
God damn.
I think they're doing another one.
I think they're doing like a 1943.
I just watched the end of 1923 and cried like a baby.
guy fieri
I was bummed that Yellowstone ended the way it did, though.
Yeah.
Circumstances were fucked up.
Outside of the show circumstances.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what happened.
Why would Kevin Costner want to leave that show?
I just don't understand what happened.
guy fieri
What I read or what I thought I learned was that he had his own project.
joe rogan
I'm sure he did.
I mean, Kevin Costner's been around for so long.
It's probably hard for him to do somebody else's thing for so long, too.
guy fieri
He was so good.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
He was perfect in that role, too.
guy fieri
So iconic.
joe rogan
I know.
guy fieri
The ending, I mean, even if you're gonna leave, my bummer about it was, even if you're gonna leave, just, I mean...
Well, I would go out better than the situation was.
I mean, they did it the way they did it.
I'm not discrediting the show by any means.
But I'm just saying, I just wanted it to be, like, the way it was from the beginning.
joe rogan
It was kind of sad how they did it.
But it was almost kind of like a fuck you, it seemed like to me.
guy fieri
From which side, exactly.
I'm not coming back?
We'll wait until you see how you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
guy fieri
And Taylor is a little bit, I mean, I wouldn't cross him.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got a little bit of that in him.
It's funny.
I was telling him about this ranch that I hunt out in California, and he's like, oh, he's a cowboy at that place.
Like, he's a legit guy.
guy fieri
He's a badass, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a good dude, too.
Solid human being, you know?
You're talking to him.
He's right there.
guy fieri
He told me, he says, listen, I know what you're doing up there in Northern California.
You've done your fundraiser there a bunch of years.
He says, come down and do it in my ranch.
He says, I will bring you the people with the money that believe in what you're doing with these first responders.
Because when we don't have disasters, we just go do positive energy thank yous to different municipalities.
We just did one in Florida, South Florida.
We just bring the trailer in, bring a bunch of chefs in.
Call up the local sheriff.
Call up the troopers.
Call up everybody.
You know, bring your families if you want.
It's free lunch.
Time for you to celebrate and be recognized.
You know, we got people walking around the streets that don't understand why our country's free.
They don't have any idea what it takes to be a free country.
And they don't understand the sacrifice, not just the sacrifices that the actual individual makes.
But the sacrifice the family makes.
I'm not even talking about the loss of somebody.
We're talking about just being deployed for seven months and not seeing dad for seven months or seeing your husband or your wife or whatever.
And I remember I was on the USS Enterprise and I was doing a philanthropy event years ago.
I was cooking for the sailors and a bunch of Marines on there.
It was like 5,200 people.
And I'm on the line serving this young...
I'm a sailor, and she came through, and we were kind of talking for a second.
She says, "I have four kids." I said, "How?" She wasn't very old.
I said, "How many?" She goes, "Well, I have an eight-month-old baby." "Babies on the ship?" She goes, "No babies, no." I said, "How could you be away from your child at this age?" And she's like, "No, I'm deployed." I'm like, "What a commitment." You know, what a commitment to do.
And the kids without.
So I think, I mean, my mantra is we talk about people pushing things on other people about their beliefs or their opinions or their attitudes.
And I said, you know, I kind of divert from all of it.
And, you know, if you don't want to like something, don't like it.
That's your thing.
But I am hell bent on.
What goes on in this country about how we recognize our veterans and our first responders and our active military.
We're missing some pieces.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
We got some people that have made the ultimate commitment, the ultimate sacrifice.
It's like the stolen valor shit.
Oh, I'll lose my mind on that because...
joe rogan
That's just crazy people.
guy fieri
The commitment that it takes.
joe rogan
Of course.
guy fieri
And so we put so much into putting the soldiers and the sailors and all these military folks into these programs and then...
When they come back, I don't think that we put the same amount of commitment.
And I think that we've got a lot of people that need a lot of help.
There's a lot of PTSD.
There's a lot of shit going on.
So my interest is, I'm not going to solve that situation.
I'm not the one that's going to be able to...
joe rogan
But at least you could recognize and give them some love.
guy fieri
Recognize, talk about it.
We carry challenge coins.
I ran into one of your guys as a first responder.
Also didn't know that he served our country in the military.
Please, when you see somebody in uniform, if you see somebody with a Vietnam vet hat, you see somebody that's in, you know, take a moment, just say thank you.
Thank you goes so far.
And people think, oh, there's nothing I can do.
No, it means a shit ton to people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
Sorry, I didn't mean to get on my rant, but that's one of my hardcore issues.
joe rogan
That's good.
That's a beautiful perspective because it's, especially with first responders and law enforcement in this country, they just don't get any love.
It's kind of crazy.
The cops are the bad guys in this country.
That's why the defund the police movement was driving me fucking crazy.
You guys are out of your mind.
guy fieri
But we're going to have a march and we'd like you to be there to keep people from throwing shit at us.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
This is a defund the police march, but we need the police.
guy fieri
We need you so the people that are...
So when we had the fires in Northern California, I was watching a lot of...
We're there feeding them.
Actually, we're up in paradise.
It was a devastating fire.
joe rogan
That was a crazy fire.
guy fieri
Joe, I drove through it.
I don't know what the surface of the moon looks like, but I can tell you it was as close to it because there was nothing standing.
There was nothing there.
The only thing that didn't burn down was a fire station.
I mean, and not because they defended it.
joe rogan
How are those people that got stuck on the road?
unidentified
Stuck.
guy fieri
Cars gone.
Everything gone.
Bombs went.
I mean, it was...
I don't know the term.
joe rogan
But...
guy fieri
So I'm standing there and I'm feeding people.
And I know for a fact because I've just been inside.
I just went to the fire.
I went and fed people at the fire station that was the only building standing.
And I said, why?
Why aren't you guys over here eating?
We're serving a bunch of food.
Nah.
We'll just stay over here.
I said, you guys are fire victims.
Your house is burnt down.
Yeah, but you know.
And you had all kinds of restaurants feeding people and all this stuff.
And I'm watching these guys eat granola bars and eat MREs.
And I said.
Come over and get some food.
unidentified
No, no, no.
guy fieri
I said, okay.
That's it.
Next day, picked up my trailer.
We moved.
I said, we only feed first responders.
Not that I'm not about the fire victims.
I think the fire victims is terrible.
But the reality of this, we have a lot of people that were focusing on the victims and giving them, which they need.
But these guys were doing...
These men and women weren't going to bed.
They were doing 72-hour shifts, sleeping in the back of their patrol car.
They drove their patrol car up from Riverside and they're up in Northern California now.
And so that's what I changed.
I pivoted my whole foundation was when the disasters go down, we're going to get there and we're going to focus on the first responders.
We were down in L.A. for 10 days.
We fed 25,000 meals.
Now, it's not going to feed everybody, and it's not going to take care of everything, but there is a point of them being recognized or knowing that we recognize them.
And I had so many chefs in L.A. that showed up and jumped on the trailer and were cooking food, and we were almost cooking 24 hours.
It was just rolling over, and people were so thankful.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
guy fieri
Yeah.
But we all can do these things.
You know, we can do these things.
We can make, donate.
Okay, maybe you don't have the money, donate the time.
Maybe you don't have the time, do the positive reinforcement on social media.
You know, if you don't have the time, you don't have social media, you don't have the money, you don't have time, just pat somebody on the back and say thanks.
I mean, we really can do way more.
And we can make a bigger impact.
joe rogan
Well, just as a society, we need to recognize the importance of these people and appreciate them for what they do.
And I don't think that that's been accentuated.
That's not been...
People haven't focused on that.
And that's a top-down thing that comes from the president, that comes from the cabinet, that comes from the way the country perceives these people and the way they award these people and, you know, the way that our...
Media treats them.
You know, the media had a field day after George Floyd with this defund the police stuff.
It's just that kind of devastation that does for morale and for recruiting and, you know, just...
The overall feeling that these people have, like, why am I doing this job where not only am I not being thanked for it, but I am being thought of as the enemy?
guy fieri
And then if I do something, if I do something, I'm not going to get supported, you know, because I'm going to get persecuted.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And every day you show up, you pull people over, you're worried you're going to get shot.
Every fucking day.
They all have PTSD.
Every one of them.
guy fieri
You go pull a buddy of mine's a fireman.
And I didn't really understand.
I didn't think about it until he brought it up to me one day.
And he said, his name's Jay LeVar.
And Jay said, you know, you go pull kids out of a car.
You go to UFA side and then you go home to your kids.
joe rogan
Right.
It's horrible.
guy fieri
That'll just wreck you.
But, you know, like I said, I'm so interested in what we can do.
And we have so much.
We're the greatest country in the world.
We're finally riding the ship.
We're getting into a better space.
But gosh, let's start focusing on it.
Let's start focusing on the fundamentals that made us the ass-kicking, name-taking center that made us the best.
And we have to start teaching that.
I was just talking about...
I just did a podcast for the Dale Carnegie Institute.
And that was a book that changed my life when I was young, when I was opening my own research.
joe rogan
No, what is it?
guy fieri
How to Win Friends and Influence People.
And it talks really about just human nature, about how you treat people and treat people the way you want to be treated and think before you act and think before you speak or before you light somebody up on a text.
And I was going through this and I said, you know, this is like a course that should be taught at freshman high school.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
guy fieri
And we should teach.
We should teach civility and we should teach respect and responsibility.
We should take – back your mouth up.
Don't go popping off.
And do these things the way we grew up.
I mean I'm not saying that violence is the answer but you definitely didn't have people running their mouth like they do now because there was hell to pay at 3 o 'clock.
That kind of stuff.
So I think that we need to get involved in teaching our young America that … They have a voice.
They have an opinion.
They're very worthwhile.
And let's just do it the right way.
But I think that Dale Carnegie Institute, that How to Win Funds, I didn't know how many things.
They do it worldwide.
And I just think, I was just telling my sons about it.
I said, you can all expect that you're going to be going to one of these programs or doing one of these courses.
I made them all read the book.
That's great.
joe rogan
I mean, people in school get taught how to, I mean, you get taught a lot of information.
But I think one of the things that's missing is getting taught how to behave and think and how to critically think and how to view the world.
guy fieri
The number...
Critical thinking to me is...
I mean, even say the term to somebody, critical thinking, and they'll look at you and go...
But they don't know what it means.
Critical thinking is...
Solving situations is evaluating the environment and coming up with calculating.
It's not taking a risk.
It's taking a calculated risk.
There's just so many of those types of things.
My dad was a huge critical thing.
So we had a rule when I was a kid.
Joe would be driving down the road and my dad would say, what are you thinking?
You're quiet over there.
What are you thinking?
One thing I was not allowed to say was nothing.
He'd say, God, full of shit.
What are you thinking?
I'm saying, well, it's all grass, but under the telephone pole, there's no grass.
And then we would spend the next goddamn hour talking about why there's no grass under the telephone pole.
joe rogan
Why is there no grass under the telephone pole?
guy fieri
Fire.
You know, the ability to get to the poles.
They have to be able to drive to them.
So you look at it because like you go into the wine country, you know, you look at all these mountains that have all these telephone poles going.
If you find roads on top of mountains and so forth, it's usually fire break or access to the telephone poles.
But we would do this critical thinking thing.
And it was so funny.
My nephew, my sister was dying of cancer.
Took him away for the day, and we're driving around in Corvette, and we're at the stoplight, manual Corvette, and I'm sitting there talking to Jules.
Jules is about nine, and he says, you know, I really like talking to you.
He says, you're fun to talk to.
He says, it's a little bit different than talking to Jamps.
Jamps was my dad.
He says, I said, what do you mean, Jules?
And he says, well, you know, sometimes when I ask Jamps, you know, like, what time is it?
I just want to know what time it is.
I don't want to know how the clock is made.
I slipped the clutch, man.
The car burned out.
I'm like, Jesus Christ!
I don't want to know how the clock is made.
Because that was my dad, man.
You'd ask him a question.
I'd go, what time is it?
Well, do you understand the difference between the analog?
You got a digital...
He and my dad would go into this.
He was a submariner during Vietnam.
He was a piece of work.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
guy fieri
Yeah.
I lost him.
Right around my birthday a year and a half ago of pancreatic cancer, but he lived for six years with it.
joe rogan
God, you had a lot of cancer in your family.
guy fieri
It sucks, man.
And I think that, like, I didn't, until you're in that club, the club sucks, but when you meet somebody that is in the fight, the fight for their life, give them a hug, give them a smile, give them encouragement, and if they have battled and they have won, Recognize them as a warrior, as a survivor, especially breast cancer and all these horrible cancers that people are stricken with.
We need to have more apathy, more understanding.
And I'll tell you, one of the greatest groups of people in the whole world, hospice.
I don't know how much you know about them and what it is, but if you don't understand what hospice does, they're earth angels.
There are people that come in when you're battling this.
You're watching a loved one die.
And they come in and they're the people that help you with the meds and help you with the caregiving and help you.
And you don't even know them.
And they come into your life and they leave your life once the cancer is.
But they stay.
You'll meet them on the street again or you'll see something.
But hospice is one of the greatest programs we have in this country.
I don't know if it's worldwide, but it is.
Hopefully you don't ever need to know it.
joe rogan
It's just shocking how many people have cancer.
Fucked up.
Yeah.
guy fieri
I've never been on a podcast where you can cuss.
joe rogan
Really?
guy fieri
I haven't been on many podcasts.
joe rogan
How many podcasts have you been on?
guy fieri
I don't know.
joe rogan
Which ones can't you cuss on?
guy fieri
I don't know.
Listen, I come from the Food Network.
We don't do a lot of cussing on the Food Network.
But you get me all fired.
I got fired up on my own about this shit.
joe rogan
But don't you cuss in normal life?
guy fieri
Oh, I got sailor.
joe rogan
Right, right.
Most people do.
So why would they stop people from cussing?
guy fieri
I don't understand that.
I've asked them forever, could we please bleep just the show once in a while?
joe rogan
They say no?
guy fieri
Because sometimes I'll eat a dish.
People say, I watch the show.
joe rogan
They say no?
You can't?
guy fieri
Yeah, it's not really...
It doesn't really get...
It hasn't made it too many.
But it doesn't matter.
It does.
joe rogan
It does matter because it's authenticity.
guy fieri
It is authenticity, and it is the spike.
It is the hammer.
It is the, this dish is so fucking good.
joe rogan
Sometimes you've got to say, this is fucking great.
That's real.
Like Cat's Deli.
guy fieri
Maybe you're going to inspire me to push this button.
joe rogan
I just don't understand why they would not.
I mean, if you want to beep it out, that's fine.
guy fieri
No, it has to be.
It would have to be bleeped out.
joe rogan
Why even do that, though?
guy fieri
Yeah, I got a lot of kids.
joe rogan
Oh, kids, the last thing we want to know.
guy fieri
Because they don't watch, because they can't get, remember when we had a Playboy hidden, you know, kids now?
joe rogan
Yeah, they got hardcore porn on their phone.
guy fieri
They can bring it up in the middle of school.
joe rogan
In high school, yeah.
guy fieri
High school!
joe rogan
Kind of nuts.
Yeah.
It's kind of nuts.
It's not healthy.
I'm sure.
They're being subjected to some stuff that, I mean, just the amount of murder they see.
You know, kids are seeing car accidents and assassinations.
On?
On their phone.
guy fieri
Twitter.
joe rogan
Every day.
And things that were very difficult to find when I was a kid.
You had to find, like, faces of death.
Remember that?
Yeah.
guy fieri
The monkey in the table.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Apparently a lot of that stuff was fake.
guy fieri
No, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A lot of the faces of death stuff was fake.
But some of it was real, like the one where they took the guy and they tied him between two trucks and they separated his body.
Yeah.
guy fieri
Good family fun.
Come on over for Friday pizza night.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
Remember when you were a kid, though, getting the VHS, you'd go, you know, ours would have to go get it at the liquor store, little town, you know, or you'd go all the way across the bridge and go get it and you'd put your, you know.
name down for the reservation to get it and you'll get faces of death and your friends would all come over and yeah yeah pizza night you'd have to hide those things from your parents Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, now kids just have access to all the horrors of the world on their phone.
And then they have to deal with, you know, people DMing them and contacting them.
Like who are these fucking predators?
That are reaching out to kids on a daily basis.
They keep arresting people for that.
You keep wanting to think that that's not a thing.
And then you keep finding out more and more of it.
It's like, fucking A. Tim Tebow was just on my friend Sean Ryan's show.
Yeah, yeah.
guy fieri
What was it, 110,000?
But see, we don't do...
We don't do anything about it.
Again, I don't want to get into...
joe rogan
Well, you know the thing to do about it.
Oh, hey.
Unfortunately, you don't want to encourage vigilantism, but that's...
guy fieri
Public square?
You mean maybe?
joe rogan
Not even...
Just, you know, it's...
The problem is you can't do that because some people are going to be unjustly accused.
It's unfairly targeted.
You know, there's people that...
You can't just...
You have to have due process.
guy fieri
Well, Chris Hansen, you ever seen his Catch a Predator?
joe rogan
Yes.
guy fieri
So, I love when they give the recap.
You know, I guess that show's stopped and now he's doing it on his own or whatever the case is and they give the recap.
And thank God he was doing that stuff.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
He opened a lot of people's eyes because most of us...
You know, if you live in a normal neighborhood with normal friends, you don't have, you know, you might have heard a story here and there.
guy fieri
This is real shit.
They were bringing their kids to it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You don't see it.
Every day.
guy fieri
Coaches.
Politicians.
Attorneys.
joe rogan
I know.
There's some sick people out there, man, and they live amongst us.
That's what's fucked up.
And then the Nickelodeon thing.
When you find out that people that were actually working for Nickelodeon...
guy fieri
Pressuring those kids.
joe rogan
Oh, God, man.
But if you thought about it, like if you were really cynical and you thought about it through an evil mind, if you wanted to abuse kids, what would you do?
You would work with kids.
guy fieri
Work at Nickelodeon.
joe rogan
Jimmy Savile.
You know about that guy, right?
You don't know about that guy?
No.
Oh my god, he's the worst one.
First of all, this guy looked like a guy who would molest kids.
He looked like a fucking monster.
And he had this show, I think it was called Jimmy'll Fix It.
Is that what it was called?
Jim'll Fix It.
He worked with all these really sick kids, and everybody was like, oh, what a saint.
That guy.
And that guy was molesting children.
Who knows how many of them?
Oh, so there's a Netflix thing on it?
Jimmy Savile, a British horror story, Netflix official site, it says.
guy fieri
How about getting called to play that guy in a movie?
That would suck, because it's that guy right there who must be playing the guy in the movie.
joe rogan
Oh, must be.
guy fieri
Jimmy Coogan.
I feel bad for Jimmy, because he looks like...
joe rogan
Steve Coogan, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, you don't even want to watch that.
I don't even want to know.
But they hid the fact that people knew that this guy was doing these things.
guy fieri
Well, you look at what happened to the poor Boy Scouts.
Look at what happened to the poor Boy Scouts.
I mean, I didn't make it to Eagle Scout and that stuff, but it was a Boy Scout.
Learned some great stuff.
Not any idea that stuff was going on.
I don't think anything happened in my troupe.
I never heard about it.
But that's exactly what you're saying.
These guys would just go find their avenue, what's going to get close to them, and then we're going to start doing it.
So where is the...
Remember, who was the guy that shot the predator, the karate coach that took his kid and he waited at the airport?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, that famous video?
guy fieri
Yeah.
That guy.
I mean...
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a hero.
guy fieri
That's how to handle it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree 100%.
unidentified
I mean, it's just...
joe rogan
It's sick, but It's like if you were a sick person, that's what you would do.
If you wanted to be around kids, you would pretend that you're really interested in helping kids.
Yeah, I was in the Boy Scouts, too.
Nothing happened to me.
I was in a good troop.
But I was in the Boy Scouts with a bunch of crazy inner-city kids.
I was living in Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts, which is kind of sketchy outside of Boston.
And they brought us to New Hampshire.
We were all in the woods, and they were fucking...
Tying kids up to their cots and dragging them out in the woods in the middle of the night and leaving them there like other kids were doing that and putting toothpaste on all your clothes because you couldn't wash it off.
They were just psycho kids.
And they gave us 22s.
That was the other part of the problem.
I remember I was hanging out with my friends and I heard...
I was like, what is that?
And someone goes, that's a ricochet.
I was like, fuck this.
So the entire time I was in camp, all I did was go fishing every day.
They had all these activities.
I'm like, you guys can...
Kiss my ass.
I'd grab a fishing rod and go down to the lake.
I'm like, I'm just going to go fishing the entire two weeks I'm here.
Fuck this.
It was just too many.
But no one was getting fucked, at least.
It was just mostly kids being just unregulated.
guy fieri
What a great way to fuck up a great program.
You know, you get these people that get in there and do that stuff.
And kids are so...
I mean, you have kids.
joe rogan
There's always going to be people that are evil.
And a lot of those people, unfortunately, have had evil imposed on them too when they were young.
And that's the really sad part about it.
It's almost like getting bit by a vampire and then you wind up doing it too.
guy fieri
Zombie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's very evil.
And they exist.
And then there's also, like, people that are elites.
And that's their thing.
Like, their thing is to do something that is horrible.
And, you know, it's not available to other people.
So it's like...
I think there's like a sickness that people have when they have power, like extreme power.
And then they go, what else can I do?
What else can I do?
What else is taboo?
What else is forbidden?
Like all this ditty shit that's coming out.
guy fieri
I was just going to say, doesn't that sound topical?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
The first day of the trial, did you pay attention to any of that stuff?
I looked at it for like 10 minutes this morning and I was like, I got to stop.
I can't look at this.
guy fieri
Well, what freaks me out is The people sitting in the courtroom listening to it.
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
And there's a wide spectrum of people that are getting subjected to it, and you just sit there and go...
joe rogan
Yeah, well, not only that, how about the fact that this guy was running this for decades?
He was doing this for decades.
Who knows how many fucking people, and everybody was scared to talk about it because he'd have them killed.
Yeah, it's really wild, man.
Evil is a real thing, you know?
Nobody wants to believe, because if you believe in the devil, right, if you believe in Satan, you believe in something that's silly.
Like, most people believe, a lot of people believe in God.
If you ask people, do you believe in God?
Yeah, well, I'm not religious, but I believe in God.
Okay, well, do you believe in the devil?
Most people say no.
But do you believe in evil acts?
Well, yeah, well, people certainly do evil things.
Well, where do you think that comes from?
If evil is real, what is it about us that makes us want to deny the possibility that there's some nefarious force that is in human beings, that influences human beings?
It's not as simple as, like, some people are bad, some people are good.
Maybe evil is a real element that you have to fight in life.
And that maybe this is just something that's been documented all throughout history, but our arrogance and our secular society wants to keep us from recognizing that as an actual factor.
And that's why it gets through.
guy fieri
That's a really great way to say it because if you denounce...
Okay, so you say there's no devil.
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
So then you're somewhat saying that there's no evil, but you're not branding evil with some type of identifying factor.
Then you kind of glaze over it a little bit.
I think that's what I'm hearing you're saying.
And I agree with it because it gets a little too – I think people want tangibility.
I think people like to be able to understand.
Things and see it for real and so forth.
But when you start just talking about root evil, when you start looking at things, like I went to the Oklahoma bombing memorial.
When you look at shit like that, you think about the hate on this country and the 9-11.
Or you just take it down to the Boy Scout troop leader.
Or you take it to the...
You take it to whatever.
There is a common denominator there, and that is just what you call it, evil.
So call it devil, don't call it devil, but call it evil.
The evilness is just, and not being aware of it or not allowing ourself to believe it, I think is part of the...
joe rogan
Well, it's the old quote, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is making people believe he doesn't exist.
guy fieri
Well said.
joe rogan
But if you're...
If you want to be thought of as a serious person, you never consider the devil.
Like, oh, come on.
There's no Satan.
guy fieri
Down there, burning.
joe rogan
Outrageous.
Get away.
You know?
guy fieri
Yeah, so how do you...
So where do you...
So how do you...
Boy, this goes in a lot of goddamn...
This goes down some rabbit holes.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's rabbit holes in life, you know?
Life is a lot of rabbit holes.
guy fieri
But see, to me, this is when we talk about critical thinking.
This is the stuff that when you really sit down and you have some conversations besides arguing whose team is better, you know, this is the type of stuff that you really have to get into some perspective.
You can learn a lot.
If you're willing to talk about things and you're willing to open up and you're willing to be wrong.
It's one of the things I'm always into is don't go into something with a predisposed opinion about it and be so hell-bent on it's your way because you might really get your mind changed or you might really learn something about it.
But as soon as you lock down on it's this way, you know, and that's...
joe rogan
There's no devil.
guy fieri
Yeah.
joe rogan
God's not real.
guy fieri
I deal with it.
joe rogan
When you die, you just die.
How the fuck do you know, bitch?
Have you been dead?
Like, what are you talking about?
guy fieri
Do you believe...
Have you ever been to a medium?
joe rogan
A medium?
Like a psychic medium?
No.
Not a real one.
I mean, I don't think that...
I'm not like one of those people that says they don't exist.
I think it's possible.
guy fieri
I was very anti.
Not anti-preaching, but anti-demon.
So my mom believes in it.
My mom did.
My wife does.
Wasn't my cup of tea.
Not saying bad.
Just wasn't my cup of tea.
My sister died real close with my sister.
And...
I kept getting this weird feeling.
I mean, my wife's not telling me to go.
My mom's not telling me to go.
No one's saying a thing to me.
Then this hawk is a representation of my sister.
I'm driving my big RV cross-country with my family.
Every year we do a big, huge road trip with the family.
This hawk flies outside of my window.
Five minutes.
No shit.
It was a real five minutes.
Flew along the freeway with me.
As fast as I was gone.
Dirt road.
So I asked my mom who was the lady to call.
So I went and had this thing.
Didn't know me very well.
Didn't know much about me.
I had the most mind-blowing experience.
Like, mind-blowing.
And I had to really sit there.
I had to go back to my wife and my mom and say, Okay.
There's something out there that's going on that's...
I'm going that's bigger than us, than I can comprehend.
And the way I kind of, to make sense of it for myself, because I have to make sense of it, is if you're a baby laying in a bassinet and you can smell and you can breathe and you can poop and you can eat and you can sleep and giggle, but I can talk to you, I can talk to you, but the baby can't understand me.
But there's some transmission of connection, you know, make it giggle.
At this stage, am I the baby in the bassinet?
And my sister's trying to talk to me, and I'm just kind of getting it, but is that possible?
The older I get, the more I start to buy into, there's got to be something else.
There's no way it can be all this and not be something more.
It just didn't vaporize, go away.
So, the other day, maybe six months ago, I sat in a hot tub.
I've got my routine of hot sauna, cold plunge, hot tub, infrared.
I do all that.
But I'm sitting there, and I keep getting this thing.
I've got to call this medium lady.
And I text her, and I said, hey, can I come see you?
And she goes, yeah.
She goes, your dad's been hitting me up quite a bit.
Your dad wants to talk to you.
joe rogan
Your dead dad.
guy fieri
My dead dad.
joe rogan
Has been hitting her up.
guy fieri
To get in touch with me, to make...
joe rogan
Does she know that your father's dead?
guy fieri
She knows my dad.
Yeah, she knew my dad's dead.
But the point was, and there was more intricacies about it, but she said, yeah, he's been talking about it.
She goes, were you just in Mexico?
I said, yeah.
Did you do something about him in Mexico?
Something about an owl?
There's no way in a million years she would know this.
joe rogan
An owl?
guy fieri
Yeah, my dad comes back as an owl.
So he said he was going to be as an owl.
joe rogan
This is what he was saying to her?
guy fieri
To me.
joe rogan
To you?
guy fieri
Yeah, this is before he died.
joe rogan
Before he died, he said, I'm going to come back as an owl?
guy fieri
Owl was the thing.
Wise guy.
joe rogan
Okay.
Owls are dumb as shit.
guy fieri
I don't know.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
guy fieri
I don't know.
I've never seen it.
They're smarter than me.
They scared the shit out of me.
joe rogan
No, they're really dumb birds.
guy fieri
That's great.
That's what my dad would talk about.
Thanks a lot, Jimmy.
joe rogan
No, I'm not saying your dad's dumb.
I'm just saying it's weird that we all have this idea of owls being wise.
I talked to this lady who trains birds.
guy fieri
She says they're the dumb ones?
joe rogan
They're some of the dumbest birds.
It's like the only thing dumber than them is emus.
It's like emus are dumb as shit.
guy fieri
I just saw emus on a ranch yesterday.
joe rogan
She's like, we have this idea that owls are really smart.
guy fieri
Well, whatever the case is.
I hung up a stained glass owl where my dad used to sit in our house in Mexico.
No way you know that.
There's no way.
So, I don't know.
I'm not cheating or preaching.
There's something bigger going on there.
Have you ever heard of the telepathy tapes?
I know people are looking at me going, guys, guys, fucking crazy.
But it really is my...
There's got to be something else.
joe rogan
Have you ever heard of the telepathy tapes?
guy fieri
No.
joe rogan
The telepathy tapes are...
This podcast, this woman put together from her work with nonverbal autistic kids and their families.
Nonverbal autistic kids and their mothers in particular have an incredible measurable psychic bond where the mother can be in another room.
The mother...
You can look at images.
The kid will be able to write down what the mother sees.
The mother could be reading things, and the child will write down what she's reading.
And it turns out these kids have abilities that are unexplainable.
She documented a nonverbal autistic kid who had the ability to read hieroglyphs.
They have the ability to read languages that they've never studied.
It's very strange.
And that they all meet up on some place called The Hill.
Psychically, they meet up together and they all describe it.
So some place psychically where all these nonverbal autistic kids get together.
Yeah.
So this documentary, The Telepathy Tapes, is like...
Very well researched.
Like what they're doing, they made sure they covered up any reflective surfaces.
They checked everybody for wires.
They scanned the room for any device that could possibly transmit information.
There was nothing.
And these children were able to do this like...
100% of the time.
It's a real documented phenomenon that a lot of people were reluctant to believe in.
You know, because it's one of those things.
You believe in it all.
You believe in fucking fairy tales, superstition shit.
You're a sucker.
But no, it's real.
There's some sort of a bond that exists.
And the more people that I've talked to about this...
Think that this is—it's not that this is an emerging phenomenon in human beings, but it's a neglected aspect of our senses.
guy fieri
Of awareness.
joe rogan
Because of language and because of media, we're being exposed to things all the time.
So we've— Kind of let that part of our brain atrophy.
But that's intuition.
That's when you know things about someone.
You meet someone you know they're full of shit.
You know, some people, you meet them and, like, right away, like, get me the fuck away from this guy.
You know what I mean?
guy fieri
I got you.
joe rogan
You feel their spirit.
guy fieri
They feel their energy, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's something real to that.
And if you're in tune to it, you'll live a better life because you'll make better decisions.
Because you'll feel that energy and you'll go, I see where this is going.
guy fieri
I've had this.
Yeah, this thing is.
So it was funny because when I said to the medium, I said, "I'm here.
Where's my sister?" She said, "Oh, she doesn't need to talk to you." I said, "What the f...?" I said, "I just made this whole thing to come here." She said, "She talks to you every day.
She talks to you all the time." Because I was raising her kid.
My parents, he lived with my mom and dad, lived right next door to us.
Lori and I have the two boys, Hunter and Ryder, but we're all big family and within the same acre.
And I'm like, wow, it is happening.
I do.
I get all these things because I'm thinking about things I'm talking to Jules about and things I'm working with Jules about as a young boy and just all these things.
And a lot of it coming from things I think of my sister.
And I don't know.
This is way outside of the spectrum of anything I ever talk about.
I mean, I tell my close friends about it, and probably people watching this now saying, isn't that guy that does the show about the pizza?
Where's he coming off on this talking to his dad, the owl, the non-smart bird?
But I believe...
Well, we've seen the stories about somebody that's...
Autistic, and then they could just hear a song and play the piano.
joe rogan
Yes.
guy fieri
I mean, that's not Hocus Pocus.
unidentified
No.
guy fieri
That's not fake stuff.
This is really, our brains are so much more powerful than, you know, than we, it's like talking to people from, I have a buddy of mine that's from Germany.
He speaks four languages.
He's a pretty smart guy, but he speaks four languages.
They all get taught English in school.
While they get taught German.
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
From a young age, from like first grade.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
So they all, you know, most of them all know how to speak a second language.
But once you can learn a language and learn the, you know, how to adapt to languages, you have the opportunity to, you know, be more, you know, available to learn other languages.
I just, you sit there and look at it and go, man, do we not utilize, how much of it do we use?
joe rogan
Yeah, we distract ourselves with a lot of nonsense.
But that's also the difference between an athlete and a sedentary person.
Obviously, your body can do a lot more than you're asking of it.
But there's something about autistic kids.
They tap into some aspect of the brain that's just unavailable to you and I. There's this one kid who flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and then did an absolutely picture-perfect, detailed drawing of the skyline.
Just from memory.
guy fieri
Photo, yeah.
joe rogan
And you watch him draw it.
You're like, this is insane.
And then you see the actual photo of the skyline.
You're like, how?
How?
Here it is.
This kid.
I mean, this is incredible, man.
So this kid's...
Look at that.
How insane is that?
guy fieri
From flying over one time?
joe rogan
From fucking memory.
Just from memory.
I mean...
This is incredible, man.
Look at this.
It's so nuts, man.
Like, he remembers everything he saw.
And then he's drawing it.
unidentified
Joe, he's not drawing a picture.
guy fieri
He's drawing a...
He's doing a billboard.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's not...
It's a huge thing.
And he's doing every fucking window, man.
This kid remembers everything.
It's nuts.
guy fieri
I work with a program called Best Buddies.
I've never heard of it.
Working with intellectually disabled adults and kids.
Had a cousin with intellectual disabilities.
I just thought everybody had a cousin that was, you know, a little different, a little unique.
And super major part of our family, Doug.
And so I heard about, I learned about this program, Best Buddies, and it was started by Anthony Shriver, who's Eunice Shriver's son.
Eunice Shriver started the Special Olympics.
And Sergeant Shriver was the star of the SEC.
You know, the Shriver, the Kennedys, that whole group.
Do you know what I'm speaking of?
So anyhow, I work with this program.
And I work with these intellectually disabled adults and kids called Best Buddies.
And when I got involved, it was Tom Brady hosting a celebrity football game at Harvard.
And everybody would come and get involved and the buddies that were athletic would participate.
And I was just there because I was invited to go.
So I had to do something.
So I cooked.
I made appetizers for the event.
And it was so funny how these buddies would gravitate towards me.
And they wanted to cook.
You know, food's that common denominator of all people.
And so we really have developed the program into this Best Buddies program where we got all the buddies partnering with chefs.
And the buddies love to do the repetitive, love to, things that are laid out, organized, and put them together and so forth.
But just an amazing group of people.
And huge hearts and huge energy and huge, never a bad day.
Always a smile.
Always happy.
Always want to give you a hug.
You know, there's just so many.
But again, when we were talking about things that get glazed over, things that get, you know, you had school, you had the special ed group, and they went off to their space.
And we never really, I think, educated people how to work inside or work with or understand or have the compassion to understand, you know.
People with disabilities.
And fortunately, I think we're getting better at it.
I think our country is – our world is starting to – but when we can look at that and take that appreciation and see that and not see that as weird but take that and appreciate it and think it and say, wow, here's somebody that's taking a difficulty or a major difficulty and doing something with it.
And I think that's – we need to be more – we need to open our minds up more.
To that stuff.
joe rogan
Well, we don't really understand all that the mind is capable of.
When you see someone do something like that, you're like, why is that available to an autistic kid and not available to everyone else?
Like, what is it about that?
Like, what is it about whatever he's missing in his ability to communicate?
I don't know if he's nonverbal.
I don't know what that young man's issues are in particular.
But clearly...
There's something that doesn't work well, so something else works in an extraordinary way.
And this is a thing with some of them that are just geniuses when it comes to music or mathematics or whatever it is.
It's like the brain has this insane potential in all sorts of weird ways.
Which brings us back to how much of the problem is what we're distracting our brains with every day.
And what kind of fuel are you feeding your brain?
You're feeding your brain a bunch of bullshit and nonsense and gossip and negativity.
guy fieri
And how much are we not paying attention to?
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
How much are we not paying attention to?
Like I was just saying, when that now becomes, because we can chronicle it and we can see the video of it and it gets on social media, we can be aware of it, there's the positive side of social media.
But there's so many of these buddies, like this young lady got up and sang the other day at this event.
And, you know, very non-communicative when you just see her on the stage.
But once she got on stage, she just blossomed into this other person.
So I think that we're hopefully starting to take some recognition to the fact that there's more potential and it should be recognized.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
It's trippy.
joe rogan
It is trippy.
It's trippy when you see these savants and you wonder, like, what is it about them that makes them so extraordinary?
Is this going to be more people like that in the future?
Obviously cavemen couldn't do that, but these people could do that.
Is there going to be more people like that in the future?
Will there be more savants?
Where is the human species headed?
guy fieri
But then do we have some of these people that we don't call them savants?
But there's some people that have invented some shit and created some stuff and took some recognition, some awareness to...
Bacteria's becoming, you know, Louis Pasteur.
I mean, there's some people that have some higher thinking power that you've taken us down some paths that, you know, it's like the computer and all of that.
I mean, I can lose, you can lose yourself in it that somebody was able to, I do it with architecture.
When I look at a building and you look at these gigantic skyscrapers.
And I'm happy when I can build a woodshed that's square, you know, that everything lines up correctly.
But somebody's going to do this out of steel and cement and glass and all this thing.
And they just build that and it's perfect.
And you just look at that and go, wow, what goes on in their mind?
Because I'll make you a really good pasta dish right now.
joe rogan
Well, there's a place for everybody in this world.
That's the thing.
It's like whatever their personality is, the way their mind works.
It's suited to architecture.
Yours is suited to food.
Some suited to music.
There's some people that are, you know, comedic geniuses.
There's some people that are artistic geniuses.
It's like, that's the beautiful thing about life.
It's the most difficult thing for young people is to find the correct path.
And the worst thing is when you're on the wrong path and you just live a life of suffering and you wish you were doing something else.
That's the saddest thing to me is someone who really wants to do something else.
I mean, that's the classic song, right?
Let's sing us a song, You're the Piano Man.
guy fieri
It's fostering.
So what I try to do when I speak to young kids or classrooms or schools or whatever I do, I say, quit chasing the dollar.
Quit looking at it thinking, I want to make the money.
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
I just say, the first thing I say to them, what makes you happy?
joe rogan
Right.
guy fieri
What do you enjoy?
Because if you enjoy it...
It's not a job.
If you enjoy it, you'll be able to put so much more time and energy into it without being tired.
You know, go be your best self and go find what you love in life.
And if you do that, it's going to come.
See, the ability to survive, the ability to live and have a house, it will come to you.
Now, that's not to say just because you love art means that you're going to be Picasso tomorrow and you're going to do it.
You might have to actually go put in some hard work and take an art class.
You're going to have to put in some hard work.
You're going to have to do some shit.
But you've got to.
And that's the other thing we're missing.
Hard work?
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
Let's remember that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
guy fieri
Anybody who says that there's no such thing as a 9-to-5 job, I work every single day.
All the time.
I mean, if I'm having fun, if I'm ripping it up, I'm at stage, I'm having fun.
But it's always going to be where it's always coming back to taking care of business.
But I just think that when people start getting lost with that, one of the things I hope that the nucleus around these kids is that we foster imagination, foster critical thinking, back to what we're saying, and foster them into achieving.
Help them write goals.
Help them have belief.
You know, we can't just set them away.
They're getting lost in their phone and believing that they're going to be a TikTok star.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a problem.
That's a problem.
When you ask kids, like, what do they want to do?
A large percentage of them just want to be famous.
Because they see these famous people and they see, like, oh, look at that guy's got a Ferrari.
Look at that guy's got a big house.
guy fieri
Isn't that mind-blowing, though?
joe rogan
It's mind-blowing.
guy fieri
And it's such a false...
Reality.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also a reality for some people.
So it's like what they're looking for.
And it's also the thing that they're getting on their phone all day long.
They're getting people who are doing it.
And you can do it.
You know what's a really crazy statistic?
10% of girls that are between 18 and I think like 25 are on OnlyFans.
guy fieri
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, 1 out of 10. Girls are posing on OnlyFans.
And here it gets even crazier.
I think it's something like the number of, like, what's the percentage of men that are subscribing to OnlyFans?
I think it's 80 million.
guy fieri
Watch this.
He's going to pull it up in 10 seconds.
Can I call him for research, by the way?
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
I think there's like 160 million men in this country and 80 million of them are on OnlyFans or subscribing to OnlyFans.
Yeah.
guy fieri
I've seen some of the stats.
joe rogan
I think it's literally like 50% of the men of a certain age are subscribing to OnlyFans and 10% of the girls are involved in being models.
jamie vernon
Let me see what I see.
So the number you said about 10% checks out, but it's using stats.
It says there's 1.2 million women aged 18 to 24 on OnlyFans and there are approximately 10 million women that age in America.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
10%.
joe rogan
10% of the girls are showing their body and doing things on OnlyFans for money.
jamie vernon
I got 82 million men are reported to subscribe to OnlyFans.
It might be overstated.
But this also weirdly says that the platform had 1.2 million American women, so that's almost all of them are 18 to 24. And this also says there's 3 million registered creators, so I don't know who the other one point.
joe rogan
Probably over 24. Or dudes.
Or fakes.
Yeah, that's right.
There's dudes that do it, too.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
There wouldn't be more dudes than women on there.
joe rogan
Kind of crazy.
guy fieri
Can I take a piss?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, let's just wrap this up.
guy fieri
No, I don't want to wrap this up.
joe rogan
We've got to wrap it up soon.
We're doing it two hours and 40 minutes.
guy fieri
I don't fucking want to go anywhere.
This is fucking awesome.
If you would, by the way, I have to.
Congratulations on not drinking.
joe rogan
Thank you.
guy fieri
I've listened and I applaud you.
I think that you read yourself, read your body, read your mind, tell you, you know, I heard you talking about it.
I think that, you know, people need to listen to themselves and, you know, see how it makes them feel.
I talk about people, what they eat and how it makes them feel.
But, no, that's a big...
No, I think this is weird.
It's like, there's so many other things.
I was just going to pick your brain about the dark web because that's another thing that I just sit there and go...
What is back...
I don't even want to know what's behind that door.
joe rogan
You don't want to know.
guy fieri
And I don't want to know what's behind that door, and it scares you because I started talking to that tech security people.
But it's like this OnlyFans stuff.
I mean, I don't even want to know about it.
I don't even want to...
joe rogan
The darkness of the human soul, it exists always.
And for a lot of these girls, it's like they just don't want to have a regular job, and then they get caught up in this OnlyFans thing, and then you make a lot of money.
guy fieri
We talked about living in perpetuity.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know.
guy fieri
You want to talk about letting that one?
Let that one ride for you because people are screen grabbing that stuff and people are recording that stuff.
Good luck on that one.
joe rogan
I know.
And it's just like nobody's telling them that when they're young, they're not getting raised properly, unfortunately.
guy fieri
For the little bit of scratch you're getting now and then how that affects you in your life.
I don't have the answer for it, but I really think that I was talking about making a contribution to your community.
I remember how many parents used to come to the classroom and help in the classroom when I was a kid.
I don't know if that still happens.
I don't know what goes on.
But this mentorship program, I ran into a guy the other day that was a big brother, big brother, big sister program.
And it was great to meet him.
I'm like, tell me about it, man.
You're doing that.
I didn't even know the program exists anymore.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
guy fieri
So there's things like that that I just hope we still remember that we had some really core...
Fundamentals doesn't mean our era was right or that we didn't do it without failure.
We didn't do it without our issues as we were speaking.
But I really hope that we continue to believe in ourselves because we can right the ship, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's always going to be good in this world and there's always going to be evil.
And you've got to kind of like battle it out.
That's part of what life is about.
And the unfortunate thing is that a lot of that evil is why you appreciate the good.
You know, and the good is there to show people that there's another path.
guy fieri
Yeah.
Well, back to the beginning of, you know, you're not political.
I mean, you've got your – but the positivity in the conversation that goes on, John Krasinski during COVID, I did his show.
He had this really cool podcast or I don't know what exactly you call the show.
Did you see it?
It was all the right – it was about – it was a whole pause.
Oh, it was a great – it was a great – I can't think of the name of it.
It was an acronym.
It was like All Positive Stuff or something along those lines.
It helped me raise some money.
I was raising money for restaurant workers.
And we just need more positive noise.
We need more positive message.
joe rogan
Yeah, and people need to make a decision in their own mind that they want to accentuate the positive aspects of their own life and stop dwelling on the negative and move forward and try to be a positive influence in as many ways as they can.
guy fieri
You're doing it, man.
joe rogan
You're here.
guy fieri
You too, brother.
You set an example.
Thank you for having me.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
guy fieri
I've looked forward to this for a really long time.
I think that my three boys are getting more of a kick out of this than anybody.
joe rogan
Well, hi to them.
guy fieri
Yeah.
joe rogan
Thanks to you.
Appreciate you.
Thanks for being here.
And thank you for the cigars.
It's very nice.
guy fieri
Keep it up.
joe rogan
Thank you.
guy fieri
Tell me whenever I can help.
joe rogan
Yes, sir.
All right.
unidentified
Thank you.
All right.
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