March 7, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast. | |
| Check it out. | ||
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train by day. | ||
| Joe Rogan Podcast by night. | ||
| All day. | ||
| What's going on, man? | ||
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Pleasure to meet you. | |
| How you doing, man? | ||
| Good to see you, baby. | ||
| Papa, look at that ring. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Holy shit. | ||
| Pleasure to meet you. | ||
| The most fun follow on Twitter by far. | ||
| Excuse me, X. Thank you. | ||
| Whatever they want to call it. | ||
| You're the most fun. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| You made my job easy, you know. | ||
| All the entertainment you give me. | ||
| How did you decide to start doing this? | ||
| First of all, were you always this funny? | ||
| I would like to think so. | ||
| But your social media presence, I think Tony Hinchcliffe told me about you. | ||
| He's like, dude, you have to follow Antonio Brown. | ||
| He's the most must-follow on the internet. | ||
| I'm like, really? | ||
| And then I go to your page, and I'm fucking dying laughing. | ||
| We're sharing it around the green room with the comedy star. | ||
| I'm like, ah! | ||
| And then when I won crack of the day, I was like, yes! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| At a year. | ||
| Cracker of the Year, that's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I try to use X as a good platform to bring laughter, bringing humor back and comedy, making people feel good. | ||
| Well, you can get wild. | ||
| Yeah, I get a little wild sometimes. | ||
| You can get wild on X. Yeah, you can get a little wild on X, but I try to... | ||
| Twitter, they would have got rid of you a long time ago. | ||
| Yeah, you would have been cancelled. | ||
| Probably would have got rid of me too, if Elon didn't buy Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, we thanks Elon Musk for giving us that platform to be able to be expressive. | ||
| You know, to bring in comedy back, bring in entertainment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just ridiculous shit. | ||
| Have some fun again. | ||
| Have some fun again, yeah. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Everybody tightened up for like five years. | ||
| It was really tight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So how did you come up with hashtag CTESPN? Because that's my favorite. | ||
| I feel like when I stopped playing football and I walked off the field, people was like, this guy's crazy. | ||
| Like, he's retarded. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| He's illiterate. | ||
| So, you know, I was like, you know what? | ||
| Maybe I could, you know, rebrand CTS being, you know, giving people perspective of different challenges people face and great individuals, how they overcome adversity. | ||
| And just kind of share and tune perspective of, you know, how people was getting through trauma. | ||
| No matter if you're a football player, I mean, what is it like for you? | ||
| You started damn UFC. Yeah. | ||
| UFC, like. | ||
| The reality of head trauma is something that we're, like, as a society, we're just embracing over the last 10, 20 years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It wasn't for that concussion movie. | ||
| I think that opened up a lot of people's eyes. | ||
| That Will Smith movie? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the story, that doctor, of him finding how many people have significant brain trauma from football. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So for me, I try to use it because this is a serious standpoint. | ||
| A lot of ex-players and players have actually has been diagnosed and passed away from CT. So for me, on a serious point of... | ||
| Bringing record awareness and bringing, you know, a reality standpoint of what athletes and people fighting or anyone in their daily lives facing from head trauma of just people writing them off, you know, and encouraging therapy, encouraging how do you get through tough situation and then making it funny. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Because I feel like nowadays if you do something crazy, people are like... | ||
| Oh yeah, that guy's crazy. | ||
| So I was like, let's just show why they're crazy on CTSPN. Show the cause of the craziness. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's a real cause to the craziness. | ||
| And we're ignoring it as a society because we love football, we love MMA, we love boxing. | ||
| Overlook it with the entertainment. | ||
| Keep moving. | ||
| Keep hitting. | ||
| I'm friends with a lot of dudes, so I get to see what they're like after fights. | ||
| Everybody watches the fight, the fight's amazing, and then you run into them after fights and have a conversation with them like, oh man. | ||
| Their whole head's swollen, can't move their hands, can't walk, calves are blown out, knees fucked up, ice here, this there. | ||
| It's a challenge. | ||
| It's a challenge, man. | ||
| It's a real challenge. | ||
| And when you started playing football, nobody even thought about it. | ||
| Yeah, because you just, you know, you never think about the repercussions. | ||
| You just think, I'll make a better life. | ||
| Well, back then, nobody even really knew that that was going to happen to football players. | ||
| It was kind of a thing that they thought about with boxers. | ||
| Rarely people talked about football players who aren't doing so good. | ||
| Yeah, so I feel like CTSP was brought back to recognize the awareness of... | ||
| High-level people are experiencing trauma and not being able to overcome that trauma because, you know, life's changing on you in a second. | ||
| You're playing football, you know it's going to come to an end. | ||
| What do you do next? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the hardest thing, right? | ||
| For pro athletes, you go from being a kid to all of a sudden you are making millions of dollars and you're young and you're wild and you're not thinking it's going to go away and then all your friends are buying jewelry and all your friends are buying Mercedes-Benz and Bentleys and all this shit and you're like, fuck. | ||
| And I think the number was something like 85% of NFL players go bankrupt within X amount of years after retirement. | ||
| Exactly, because the lifestyle, you know, and making so much money and being able to transition in regards of having a new career and not making that much money all at once like you used to. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think sometimes bankroll could be used to protect assets in regards of people coming after you, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're a big target when you're in position. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, but that is another problem with getting wealthy is that you become vulnerable to scoundrels. | ||
| Yeah, scavengers. | ||
| And dirty hoes. | ||
| Yeah, dirty hoes. | ||
| Dirty money-grabbing, like calculated hoes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, ones that, it's not just like, well, the relationship didn't work out, the lawyer told you you can get some money from him, maybe you should go for it. | ||
| Yeah, fuck him. | ||
| No, it's like from the jump, they're calculated. | ||
| These ladies these days, they gonna have a nigga baby? | ||
| Because they're homeless. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you got to hit them in back to the streets where you belong, bitch. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Did you ever have situations where you thought girls were trying to get over on you? | ||
| I just feel like nowadays, girls just want the BBD, the biggest and better deal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's built into human nature. | ||
| Yeah, human nature is like, what's the next best thing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's called hypergamy. | ||
| It's like a natural state that women... | ||
| Stay in, right? | ||
| Well, they look for... | ||
| Like, if you're doing okay, but then all of a sudden she starts working for a billionaire and he gets divorced and he's real friendly to her, next thing you know, she starts picturing that closet. | ||
| Seeing the op, right? | ||
| She starts picturing that closet, seeing all those shoes and purses and all that jewelry. | ||
| She starts licking chops going to the movie theater. | ||
| He's actually nicer to me than my boyfriend. | ||
| They start justifying it, and next thing you know, she's going. | ||
| She's going to the movie theater. | ||
| It's hypergamy, yeah. | ||
| It's a natural state that some women, I mean, obviously there's great women out there with character and morals, and they don't do that, but it's a natural thing that women do. | ||
| They try to find a better suitor. | ||
| Bigger and better deal. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| When you talk about CTE, when did you first start noticing, The effects of football. | ||
| I feel like to me, I always knew the game was going to come to an end. | ||
| And I feel like to me, I always played the game smart as a receiver. | ||
| Not putting myself in bad positions, getting hit. | ||
| But I did have a chance to, you know, rest in peace to Marius Thomas, one of the ex-receivers who came in the NFL around the time I came in. | ||
| I had a chance to see him experience, you know what I'm saying, some of that CT trauma. | ||
| How did he pass? | ||
| From CT. Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He passed from CTE? Yeah, when they study his brain, yeah, because I don't want to speak about the problems that he really had, but, you know, being a close friend to him, you know, we've seen some of the experience that he was going through. | ||
| And playing for Temple my last year when we won the Super Bowl, I think it had a player, Vincent Jackson, rest in peace, also pass from CTE. So for me, you know, it's a real thing. | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| And not only just from the hits you take, but like you said, aftermath of your career or, you know, having a moment in your career where some guys can't get over it or, you know, you done seen fighters have a fight or it may not go the way that they wanted to go and it could possibly affect the outcome of how they look at it. | ||
| And I feel like we all have traumas in our lives from all, no matter if you play sports or not. | ||
| So it's just raising awareness of getting mental therapy. | ||
| Being able to, you know, work on yourself so you can have a better life. | ||
| That's an important point you brought up, like the psychology of an athlete. | ||
| You have to learn how to, like, put losses behind you and failures behind you and regain your confidence and then excel and move forward, right? | ||
| You just got to not let one moment overtake the overall moments of your career. | ||
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Right. | |
| Some moments are big moments, and, you know, if you get cut, little things that happen in your career, just take it with a grain of salt and be able to, You talk pretty openly about CTE, but when did you start feeling the effects of that? | ||
| I feel like I always was in tune and aware of my situation and where I'm at in life. | ||
| I've been pretty blessed in my regards of being a football player. | ||
| Come from Central Michigan as a walk on to Central Michigan, leave three years, go to the Steelers being the second receiver pick in that year. | ||
| And then, you know, I always had a high belief in myself and never was deteriorated about the position or where I had to start from or where I was going. | ||
| So for me, I always had the intuitive trust and the belief in myself regarding any situation I've been in because, you know, I came from Liberty City from nothing. | ||
| So to me, everything's a blessing. | ||
| Any position I ever was in in life deteriorated my perspective and my outlook or how I looked at. | ||
| Did you feel the way your brain work changed at all though? | ||
| No, I feel like the older you get playing sport, you realize, deteriorate, you know what I'm saying, what the game entails on your body. | ||
| I feel like in my 20s, I was just ripping through, you know, dominating the game. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Then you get 30. You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Obviously, it's a business. | ||
| They're looking for younger players to excel at the game. | ||
| And then when you leave one of the best teams and put yourself in a position, you know, to do what's important for you other than important for the NFL. So, you know, what's going to come with that? | ||
| So, to me, I always made a calculated decision, you know what I mean, to put myself in the best position, i.e., like playing with Tom Brady, you know, going to the Pacers or leaving the Steelers. | ||
| You know, I always try to just... | ||
| Knew I wasn't going to play for a long time. | ||
| Just maximized the moment in the meantime playing so when I'm done playing I can live a healthy life. | ||
| So you played smart. | ||
| Gotta play smart. | ||
| And as a receiver, man, they're coming for you. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta play smart. | ||
| That's target numero uno. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you encounter a lot of young guys? | ||
| I'm sure you run into, and you definitely did while you're playing, young guys are coming in, and you feel compelled to let them know, like, hey, you got a short amount of time here. | ||
| The longest anybody that ever lasts is like Brady. | ||
| What's he now? | ||
| He's thinking about doing it again. | ||
| Is he 43? | ||
| 44, probably, yeah. | ||
| Quarterback's a little different, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot different, right, than a receiver. | ||
| A lot different than a receiver, yeah. | ||
| And they have longer careers. | ||
| But, you know, it's obviously, for most people, you start hitting your 30s. | ||
| That's the same thing with fighters as well. | ||
| When they pass 35, that's the cutoff. | ||
| 35, you're always looking for decline. | ||
| And some of them hang in there strong, like Alex Pereira. | ||
| He's 37. He's hanging in there strong, killing everybody. | ||
| For most guys, 35, 36, that's the drop-off, 37. Do you feel, like, compelled to talk to the young guys? | ||
| Absolutely, because it's a short window of opportunity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you've got to know, like, what are you set out to do? | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| What are you came to do? | ||
| You've got to have those intangibles. | ||
| And just, you know, it's a long game. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Life is a long game. | ||
| Life is a long game. | ||
| Yeah, football's a chapter. | ||
| Life's a long game. | ||
| And it could be the most fun chapter of your whole life. | ||
| But it's not real life. | ||
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Right. | |
| Of all, it's just what you do is really not who you is, but I feel like people will kind of get to know you from what you do based off, you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The other thing is that, like, some guys, they have a real problem when they stop playing because they don't know who they are anymore. | ||
| They used to be a football player, and now all of a sudden they're just a regular person who was a football player. | ||
| And that's some part of the trauma as well. | ||
| You know, some guys, it's not really in tune with knowing themselves in regard to... | ||
| To me, I always knew football wasn't going to come to an end. | ||
| We don't have unlimited health. | ||
| And I go back to the trauma, which is understand who you are and making yourself happy, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting to see that some people can navigate it and they figure out how to do it and they get through life and then they move on to other things and they start doing commentary on ESPN or what have you and they're doing great. | ||
| And then most people, that's not the case. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why I say I recommend people who get therapy and, you know, into your career. | ||
| Have good people in your corner that, you know, got your back that could still help you propel in life. | ||
| Did you get therapy when you were done? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For sure you gotta get therapy. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What did you specifically go to talk to them about? | ||
| Just how you feel. | ||
| You know, mental clarity. | ||
| You know, emotional feelings. | ||
| You know, I feel like... | ||
| Waking up and being a football player when you did it every day and you wake up with so much energy ready to put it out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Learning how to channel it, you know, learning how to deal with some relationships that maybe changed now that you're not in a position and how to deal with that or, you know, how to deal with people leveraging you, you know what I mean, for what you got now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a lot of different things that just provide mental clarity and just... | ||
| Because life's not about just being right, just figuring out ways to just be more happy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Did you have a plan when you stopped? | ||
| Did you know what you were going to do? | ||
| I didn't know what I was going to do, but it kind of just happened. | ||
| I was making music with the distribution label, with video. | ||
| So as soon as I walked out the field, they released the music. | ||
| I ended up linking with Kanye West right after. | ||
| After that, I was doing Rolling Louds. | ||
| After that, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| So, for me, I was grateful, you know, as soon as I walked off the field, music song dropped. | ||
| How did you link up with Kanye? | ||
| Man, he was looking for me right when I walked off the field. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they was calling me, Justin LaBoy, like, calling me in New York, like, yo, Kanye wanna meet you. | ||
| I ended up flying to L.A. to meet Rich with Fashion Nova, and we met right in Craigs, randomly in Craigs, but he was looking for me in L.A., and after that... | ||
| And I'm hanging with him, making his album, Donda 2. Wow. | ||
| Just getting opportunities. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I've been blessed to be able to have that happen for me. | ||
| What is it like working with Kanye? | ||
| Because I've got to imagine that motherfucker is terrific. | ||
| A lot of energy, genius, meetings at 8 o'clock, all the music. | ||
| 8 a.m. | ||
| or 8 p.m.? | ||
| 8 a.m. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Every day, yeah. | ||
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Really? | |
| All the engineers there, everyone on the team. | ||
| That's unusual. | ||
| Rappers at 8 a.m.? | ||
| Nah, Kanye is really a... | ||
| Been this guy who put in a lot of work. | ||
| I know a lot of people see his rants and him going off, but he's really passionate about his work. | ||
| He's a genius. | ||
| He's just scattered. | ||
| He's all over the place. | ||
| And sometimes he goes a little off the reservation. | ||
| I feel like he thinks in a lot of forms. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So many areas he likes to think. | ||
| You don't make music like that consistently unless you got a very different mind. | ||
| That dude has a very different mind. | ||
| All of his shit. | ||
| He doesn't have one bad album. | ||
| His new album's not getting enough love. | ||
| Yeah, because I feel like people want to know where's he at. | ||
| Where's he at? | ||
| He's killing it still. | ||
| This music is killing it. | ||
| This new shit is killing it. | ||
| I wish he didn't sell swastika t-shirts on his website, but... | ||
| He does that to fuck with people. | ||
| He does that to fuck with people. | ||
| That's part of the fun of being kind here. | ||
| That's part of the marketing, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's part of the fun of being Kanye. | ||
| He's getting people to talk about him. | ||
| He puts an ad on the Super Bowl, and you go to the website, and he's selling swastika t-shirts. | ||
| It's like, what the fuck? | ||
| The hell is this? | ||
| It's so crazy, but the music is undeniable. | ||
| Over and over and over again, it's undeniable. | ||
| Every album. | ||
| He doesn't have one dud. | ||
| They're all bangers. | ||
| They're all bangers. | ||
| And the new one, after all the shit he's been through, the new one is a banger. | ||
| We play that shit in the green room all the time. | ||
| It's a banger. | ||
| Yeah, he's all gas. | ||
| All gas, no brakes. | ||
| But 8 a.m. | ||
| meetings for rappers is very unusual. | ||
| I mean, he's more than a rapper. | ||
| I think he's just a creative genius. | ||
| He makes beats. | ||
| He's in fashion shoes. | ||
| Of course, yeah. | ||
| Just creative, lucrative, man. | ||
| I feel like he's really passionate about them. | ||
| Yeah, the rap is just one extension of his creativity. | ||
| Yeah, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| I just wish he would stop selling swastika t-shirts. | ||
| Yeah, he gotta calm it down. | ||
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I told him God is love. | |
| Yeah, I told him God is love, man. | ||
| He's a really in tune spirit with God, so I told him that God is love, be love. | ||
| Well, you know what I think? | ||
| I think Kanye feels attacked. | ||
| And when he feels attacked, he fires back. | ||
| And then you develop this antagonistic relationship with the media, with some of your fans, with all the people that are upset at you. | ||
| He feels cornered and attacked and not appreciated. | ||
| And then he fires at people and starts saying wild shit and then puts masks on. | ||
| He's a brilliant fucking guy. | ||
| Yeah, he's amazing. | ||
| When he came to do the podcast, unfortunately, at the time, Jamie caught COVID. Like, the early, early days. | ||
| And Jamie couldn't be here, so we wound up doing it in my studio. | ||
| But what he wanted to do was build a studio that looked like a womb. | ||
| Nah, he loves, he loves like... | ||
| Settings and how stuff looks, shapes, designs. | ||
| He probably sent 100 images every day. | ||
| Just different designs. | ||
| Yeah, he sent me sketches and shit of what he's working on. | ||
| You should see his workout. | ||
| He draws on a whole comic book. | ||
| A comic book of his workouts? | ||
| Yeah, but his workout. | ||
| It's retarded. | ||
| He's just so... | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's how you become a guy that's that successful in so many different areas. | ||
| You have to be driven. | ||
| You got to be driven, man. | ||
| You got to get on that bike and exercise that cardio. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You got that agility. | ||
| You got that agility just up and on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like that kind of brain, though, is like a Ferrari engine. | ||
| You got to know how to handle that. | ||
| You've got to know how to handle that thing or you're going to go into the woods. | ||
| You're going to spin off the road and hit a fucking tree. | ||
| And that's the problem with a guy like Kanye. | ||
| It's just like his brain has more horsepower than the average brain. | ||
| On a road where everybody else is going 35 miles an hour, and he's like, get the fuck out of my way! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Because he's got that Ferrari engine, but that engine, you will spin out. | ||
| The tires won't hold. | ||
| You will take a corner too fast. | ||
| Yeah, you'll go sideways. | ||
| Yeah, this is the crash-out bucket right here. | ||
| What's with the helmet? | ||
| Why'd you choose the helmet? | ||
| I feel like this is one of the lucrative helmets that they wear when they go to war. | ||
| Lucrative? | ||
| Yeah, lucrative. | ||
| You know, this is the crash out buckets because I feel like when you wear this helmet, you were already crashed out. | ||
| It's like you committed to the crash out. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You're all in. | ||
| All in. | ||
| So I feel like we have war right now with the Democrats. | ||
| I know. | ||
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Isn't that crazy to say? | |
| I know. | ||
| It's crazy to say, but I know exactly what you're saying. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I just can't believe people say it and it's true. | ||
| It's wild life right now. | ||
| The Democrats are now the Republicans. | ||
| They're the ones trying to control speech. | ||
| They didn't even clap for the little kid. | ||
| That was some bullshit. | ||
| They didn't clap for the little kid. | ||
| They didn't clap for the lady who got fucked up by that volleyball player that was a dude. | ||
| Yeah, they didn't clap for Lake and Riley who got murdered by the illegal immigrants. | ||
| Yeah, it was crazy. | ||
| It's just we're so divided. | ||
| You can't clap for a little kid who survived cancer. | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| Yeah, where your heart at? | ||
| He's on their side, so you can't clap for this little kid? | ||
| Like, you're upset. | ||
| This little kid is watching you not clap at him. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's a little child. | ||
| Yeah, it's hurting his heart. | ||
| A child with cancer, and you can't put your shit aside to give that kid some love? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| We have to stop the division in this country. | ||
| I feel like people are digging in their trenches. | ||
| They're digging in deeper and deeper. | ||
| And really, we should be encouraging the opposite. | ||
| Most of what people are arguing about... | ||
| All day long in politics is not affecting your life. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| And you can get caught up in it and it can become your whole life and you will waste your life thinking about that stuff instead of thinking about stuff that you actually have control over. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Your family, your friends. | ||
| Stuff that's important. | ||
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Your life. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Stuff that's actually important, which is what you should be thinking about most of the time. | ||
| Yachty. | ||
| But some people, they think about that and then think, yeah, what are these motherfuckers doing behind the scenes? | ||
| They're stealing my fucking taxes, doing this, and bringing in the illegals, and what are they doing with the trans kids? | ||
| It's nonstop. | ||
| Yeah, it's nonstop, man. | ||
| That's why we got to bring comedy and love back, and then Joy Boo laughs on X. Were you on Twitter before Elon bought it? | ||
| Yeah, I was on there before. | ||
| Did you get in trouble at all? | ||
| Or would you take it on the DL back then, like a little lighter? | ||
| No, obviously back then I was representing the NFL and some stuff I can't really talk on or speak on when you represent a T. Right, if you were representing the NFL right now... | ||
| Yeah, man, you gotta get the fuck out of it. | ||
| Yeah, some of the shit you write is wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you get wild. | ||
| But it's funny! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's, like, that's what I go to Twitter for. | ||
| I don't want to be mad. | ||
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It's comedy for laughs. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| We don't want to stress people. | ||
| I want people to come to my X page and fucking... | ||
| Ball out your eyes. | ||
| Yeah, so when you did the awards, who put that together? | ||
| Me and my guy, Jacob. | ||
| We put it together. | ||
| Genius. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Genius. | ||
| And everybody loved it. | ||
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It was huge. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it was bigger than the awards show with the Oscars. | ||
| I feel like we had a lot of numbers. | ||
| You had a lot of numbers on X, man. | ||
| Like, a lot of people watched that. | ||
| What was the final numbers on that? | ||
| I think almost $200 million in engagement. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| Right on the X, yeah. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| But it's fun. | ||
| People are starving for fun. | ||
| They need excitement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A little uncomfortable, but a little cool. | ||
| Because we make the uncomfortability cool. | ||
| Also, you're doing it all with a big smile. | ||
| It's happiness, man. | ||
| Yeah, you're having a good time. | ||
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Yeah, a good time. | |
| Making people feel good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what we need more of. | ||
| Are you going to do more award shows? | ||
| I need to. | ||
| We need to do more, especially if you're a part of it. | ||
| If you're going to come support it, of course. | ||
| I'll support. | ||
| I'll get a bunch of guys to come, too. | ||
| We need to do a real experience, like a real show awards, but we have it. | ||
| I feel like you could do it every quarter. | ||
| You can do it like once a quarter. | ||
| Every three months. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Get some sponsors. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| You know, because that's a legitimate show. | ||
| Fuck all these other award shows. | ||
| I didn't watch the Oscars. | ||
| There's so much politics. | ||
| It's not even fun. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They're talking about politics. | ||
| Ukraine and this and Gaza and Palestine. | ||
| You're making movies. | ||
| Just make your fucking movies. | ||
| Just go right to the theaters and keep it going. | ||
| This is what we did. | ||
| We worked real hard. | ||
| Thank you, everybody, for all your hard work. | ||
|
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Yay! | |
| We won. | ||
| That's it! | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's all I want to hear from you. | ||
| That's all I want to hear. | ||
| I'm not interested in someone who lies for a living, because that's what they do. | ||
| They pretend to be somebody else. | ||
| For a living, tell me how I should view the world. | ||
| I'd like to go to other people for that, please. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You're welcome. | ||
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Yeah, you fucking people are just actors. | |
| Just because you're famous doesn't mean what you have to say is important. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Especially at a fucking award show. | ||
| Imagine taking your time and you're going to use that award show to denounce politics and proclaim your platform. | ||
| Just ruin shit. | ||
| Boring. | ||
| Super boring. | ||
| Boring. | ||
| Yours is fun. | ||
| You could have a giant audience. | ||
| You could have musical performers. | ||
| You could have a real show. | ||
|
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Yeah, man. | |
| People look forward to it and feel happy about it. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| And make people feel good for doing great things, man. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| And it's also, like, the fun thing about you doing something like that, too, is it lets other people know, like, oh, I could cut loose, too. | ||
| Yeah, you could be a little open. | ||
| Yeah, maybe I could. | ||
| A little comedy fight. | ||
| Yeah, maybe someone will pay attention to me. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Maybe I can crack some good jokes and have some fun. | ||
| Some good humor to bring people together. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's one cool thing that I am seeing from a lot of former athletes. | ||
| They're starting podcasts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like the podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a good way for guys to just sit around and shoot the shit. | ||
| Yeah, be expressive. | ||
| Look at Pat McAfee. | ||
| He's fucking killing it. | ||
| Yeah, he's killing it. | ||
| Yeah, Pat, take it to a whole new level after the career. | ||
| Yeah, but that's like a great example of what's possible for a lot of former athletes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially fun guys like you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you thought about doing a podcast? | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| I started a little on CTSPN, but I think I need it. | ||
| I feel like I don't want to be the guy that's just talking about... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like sometimes I get a little watered down when you just... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Talking too much. | ||
| I feel like as a player, I always was about action. | ||
| I love to talk and be funny and creative, but sometimes it depends on, you know, what's the seriousness and the purpose coming behind it or what's the meaning. | ||
| Oh, believe me, I know. | ||
| I talk too much. | ||
| I talk four or five days a week sometimes. | ||
| Your opinion is really good. | ||
| I like seeing you give your opinion. | ||
| You're always real. | ||
| You're a realist. | ||
| I try to keep it real. | ||
| Keep it official or tell the truth how they're feeling. | ||
| It's always amazing to be here with you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I feel very fortunate that my job depends on me being real. | ||
| You don't have an option. | ||
| A lot of people can't really pay that price. | ||
| How do you come to a source with yourself where you can just... | ||
| Be 100% genuine about how you feel and who you is. | ||
| I kind of always have been that way. | ||
|
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I think that's my CTE. I got hit in the head a lot when I was young, man. | |
| I got hit in the head a lot. | ||
| And I think all my years of sparring and fighting, I think, rattled something loose. | ||
| It rattled the give a fuck part loose. | ||
| Where it's like, I don't care as much. | ||
| If other people are mad at me, as some people do. | ||
| I don't care as much. | ||
| I mean, I don't like it. | ||
| I don't like it if people are upset at me, but it doesn't ruin my life like it does with some people. | ||
| I can just like, okay. | ||
| Also, I think I have... | ||
| Enough real-world perspective to know what's actually important in this life. | ||
| And it's not really necessarily other people's opinions, especially the type of opinions of people that get upset all the time about everything. | ||
| They're not valuable opinions. | ||
| So even if they're making you out to be the worst person that's ever lived, according to them, but they're idiots. | ||
| You have to be able to have perspective. | ||
| If you feel a certain way and you don't tell people, if you think a certain way, you don't tell people, you're doing a disservice to you. | ||
| You're doing a disservice to them. | ||
| Nobody's benefiting from that. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| No one's benefiting from your true self. | ||
| So how do you handle criticism? | ||
| Handle over the achievement, right? | ||
| Just don't say nothing, right? | ||
| Just keep on going. | ||
| Just keep going. | ||
| Achieve more, right? | ||
| Yeah, this thing called life gonna keep on rolling. | ||
| Just ignore it. | ||
| I mean, I'm my worst critic, so if I have a bad show, if I do something I don't like or wish I didn't do, I am upset at myself more than other people are gonna be anyway. | ||
| Now you're a realist. | ||
| Yeah, so I'm not interested in the opinions of people that are easily upset by almost anything. | ||
| How do you feel about crypto, man? | ||
| You got Phantom Wallet? | ||
| How do you get your money in crypto? | ||
| Well, Jamie and I have been talking about starting our own bullshit coin. | ||
| That'd be dope. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Not bullshit coin? | ||
| I thought you were going to do a pull it up Jamie coin. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What about the butt coin? | ||
| You heard of butt coin? | ||
| No, what's butt coin? | ||
| The Dodge New Dodge coin? | ||
| Hmm? | ||
| I wrote a show today at Dodge New Dodge coin. | ||
| I mean, it's a bunch of coins. | ||
| There's like a million coins, right? | ||
| Yeah, there's like a million coins out there. | ||
| How many coins are there? | ||
| Meme coins. | ||
| It's over? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| What do you mean? | ||
| The meme coin? | ||
| It all fell apart. | ||
| When? | ||
| This week? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Jamie? | ||
| For real? | ||
|
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Everything fell apart. | |
| Why did it fall apart? | ||
| Because of its nonsense. | ||
| I hope we didn't ruin it by talking about it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm thinking about launching a meme coin. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not making any accusations. | ||
| Portnoy kind of exposed it. | ||
|
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It's over. | |
| Because Portnoy was the only one that was looking at it going... | ||
| Am I going to jail? | ||
| Is this legal? | ||
| Yeah, I was thinking about lodging a coin myself that's really legit, that you don't own, you don't sell it, you don't rip it. | ||
| That way if it tanked, they make their money. | ||
| I feel like you could go to focus.xyz at AB and check it out. | ||
| Is that yours? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, so you promise not to pump and dump? | ||
| Yeah, no pump and dump. | ||
| It's an unruggable. | ||
| Like nobody could pump and dump it. | ||
| Oh, you can't pull the rug out? | ||
| Yeah, you can't pull the rug out. | ||
| So that way it just stays and grows. | ||
| Because that's why I feel like that's why people get in trouble with all these coins, just pump and dump. | ||
| People don't want to be scammed or fucked over or manipulated. | ||
| So I feel like you got to have, for me, to make one coin, I feel like we got to make one that won't sell a tank, an unguardable one that you could. | ||
| Focus on... | ||
| I think I'm gonna put it out now. | ||
| It's on Focus.xyz slash AB. There was this one coin that Hamzat Chemaev, the UFC fighter, released. | ||
| That was... | ||
| They were claiming that he did a pump and dump. | ||
| And there was like, you ripped off your fans. | ||
| I'm like, man, you can't rip off your fans, obviously. | ||
| But also... | ||
| I don't know if the people that are buying those coins are fans. | ||
| I think they're gamblers. | ||
| I think those people are just gamblers. | ||
| And they're just trying to figure out, okay, if I buy in now, and, you know, they probably got, like, their finger over the sell button, waiting for it to get to a certain number. | ||
| And cash out. | ||
| And cash out. | ||
| It's like the casino at that point. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| But it's more rigged than the casino. | ||
| Because the casino, like, the person playing it. | ||
| Can't rig it, but this the person playing it is rigging it the person buying the coins can rig it like if you especially if you get a famous guy like Hamzat or Someone else to tweet about it and make it a big deal and then the price goes up and then you just Pick a peak peak number and when it hits that number like that's it Yeah, you can't fuck people over people. | ||
| No one's feeling good fuck what out there. | ||
| No decision, but also Who are these people, and why did they think they were gonna make money on bullshit coins? | ||
| Yeah, I don't get it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Are we mad at the casino when someone blows all their money playing roulette? | ||
| No. | ||
| We're like, well, that's what you signed up for. | ||
| Like you could have won money like people win money in roulette or they don't but if you lose all your money in roulette, we're not mad at the casino. | ||
| No. | ||
| So why are we mad when someone loses their money in meme coins? | ||
| You know, it's like what the fuck did you think was gonna happen? | ||
| You took a gamble. | ||
| You're literally buying a coin that's like a little doggy face. | ||
| You took your whole life savings and you gambled on a doggy face coin? | ||
| That's what a fake money coin? | ||
| Explain that to me. | ||
| Dumbass of the day. | ||
| That's dumbass of the day. | ||
| Yeah, literally. | ||
| And again, I feel terrible for anybody who got tricked into doing that shit, but I think most of those people who are not getting tricked, they're like scamming. | ||
| They're hustling. | ||
| They're hustling. | ||
| They're trying to figure out when to buy, when to sell. | ||
| Figure a way to make it big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the weird thing is a guy like Portnoy can tweet about a coin, and then once he makes that post, the coin goes up, and then he sells, and he makes a million dollars. | ||
| He's like, is that okay? | ||
| Like, is that legal? | ||
| Well, it turns out it is legal. | ||
| That's totally legal to do. | ||
| But, like, shouldn't there be some fucking regulations? | ||
| Because you can't do that with a lot of things. | ||
| If you did that with the stock market, wouldn't you be in trouble if you did that with the stock market? | ||
| Like, if you tweeted about a stock, and then that stock went up, and then you sold right away. | ||
| Like, if you're like, I'm bullish on this stock, and then that stock goes up, and then you sell right away. | ||
| Is that a pump and dump? | ||
| It is, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not? | ||
| Is that totally legal? | ||
| It's legal. | ||
| Talk in the microphone, bro. | ||
| I have no idea why that wouldn't be legal, but that's not pumping. | ||
| But you're promoting it, right? | ||
| That's not pumping. | ||
| Pumping, literally, is you're putting money up. | ||
| Okay, so you're putting money to elevate the price. | ||
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It has to be seen. | |
| There has to be something to look at. | ||
| So that's the question. | ||
| So it all starts out with some real money. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta put something in on it. | ||
| You can't just start off. | ||
| You gotta have your money. | ||
| How much money? | ||
| How much ever you can put. | ||
| How much does a coin, like... | ||
| It literally depends. | ||
|
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It's over. | |
| I'm telling you, this is over. | ||
| It's not worth learning it now, but... | ||
| Jamie's funny. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| You know what that means? | ||
| That means Jamie's stockpiling coins. | ||
| He's trying to bring down the price. | ||
| Don't you feel it? | ||
| He's trying to get the ups. | ||
| He's trying to bring down the price. | ||
|
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That's not how this game works. | |
| It's literally the opposite of how it would work if that's what I was trying to do. | ||
| You don't have to lie to us. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| I've seen you get high with Elon Musk on here. | ||
| He hit the joint, and it's like... | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
|
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Allegedly. | |
| Allegedly, yeah. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| He got in trouble for that. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Because he has top secret clearance. | ||
| Yeah, I figured he was. | ||
| The thing about that, we can't show that on YouTube anymore. | ||
| YouTube is not liking the smoke right now. | ||
| YouTube is taking some precautions. | ||
| Protecting people from themselves. | ||
|
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Make sure Bay Smokes, man. | |
| 50 sakes. | ||
| So this stuff that you have is legal in 50 states? | ||
| Yes, Bay Smokes. | ||
| I don't even want to ask how. | ||
| I just trust you. | ||
| Bay Smokes. | ||
| How's it legal in 50 states? | ||
| I'm going to ask how. | ||
| Bay Smokes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Bay Smokes, you gotta explain to us. | ||
| I know how it's legal. | ||
| How? | ||
| Bay Smokes got the paperwork. | ||
| He figured it out. | ||
| Well, it all should be legal. | ||
| I think he got hemp. | ||
| He sell hemp as well. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So that was the key about it. | ||
| To be able to get the clearance in 50 states Bay Smokes. | ||
| I don't know how the DEA feels about that, but I feel like we're just a few years away from it being completely legal. | ||
| I know Kamala was saying that she wanted to make it legal if she got into office. | ||
| Yeah, that's the best thing she ever said. | ||
| You want some coffee? | ||
| I hope Trump does it too. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be cool. | ||
| I really do, because it's stupid. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| I mean, if you don't want to smoke pot, don't smoke pot. | ||
| If you don't want to drink whiskey, don't drink whiskey. | ||
| It's your choice. | ||
| Yeah, just give people choice. | ||
| And don't tell me it's all bad for you. | ||
|
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Stop. | |
| You don't know. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| You obviously don't smoke weed. | ||
| Shut your mouth. | ||
| You dig? | ||
|
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It's going to make you lazy and ruin the children. | |
| No. | ||
| No, you have lazy kids. | ||
| You get kids high, they get paranoid. | ||
| When they get paranoid, they work harder. | ||
| They start picturing yourself old in your deathbed, like, what did I do? | ||
| Like, oh my god, I gotta get to work. | ||
| Sometimes a little paranoia is good for you. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| That's going to put that fire on you to get going. | ||
| Yeah, comfort is the worst poison that a man can consume. | ||
| Don't seek comfort. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Got to commit to be the difference. | ||
| Yeah, you get to enjoy comfort when you earn it. | ||
| You know, long days work. | ||
| You want to come home, sit in front of the television, watch a little Netflix, have a good time, have a nice meal at a restaurant. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you earned that. | ||
| But don't think that's what you want out of life. | ||
| I just want to retire and drink. | ||
| Jordan Peterson talked about this. | ||
| He said, what's your vision of retirement? | ||
| He's like, is your vision of retirement, sitting on the beach, drinking margaritas? | ||
| Like, how long do you think you can do that for? | ||
| Maybe a day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Two days? | ||
| A week? | ||
| Two weeks? | ||
| Life is already gone. | ||
| You're going to be depressed. | ||
| You have no purpose in life? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think the problem really is that a lot of people don't have any purpose while they're working. | ||
| Like, a lot of people aren't fortunate to pursue a career in football and to be, you know, a podcaster or something they enjoy. | ||
| They're doing something that sucks, so they can't wait until they don't have to do the thing that sucks. | ||
| And they think, oh, I could just be free just to lay around and do nothing. | ||
| Like, man, you better find something to do. | ||
| You better go play golf. | ||
| Life's always about being driven. | ||
| The moment you think you can stop and just not do nothing, then... | ||
| You're going to be stopped. | ||
| You got to keep going. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what I tell all my friends to start getting successful. | ||
| People are like, oh, you made it. | ||
| You can relax now. | ||
| I go, listen to me. | ||
| There is no made it. | ||
| You made it when you're done. | ||
| There is no made it. | ||
| Made it is not real. | ||
| It is just life. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You're living life. | ||
| You're successful. | ||
| Good. | ||
| That means you have an obligation to work harder to keep it rolling. | ||
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Hold up. | |
| That's standard. | ||
| You got standard to it. | ||
| You got to keep going. | ||
| You got to push it harder now. | ||
| But there's no made it. | ||
| There's no fucking holding hands and walking out into the sunset. | ||
| That's just a mentality for people in that contentment. | ||
| Just wanting to be content in regards of everything's done, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They want to get off work. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| They want to get off work and relax. | ||
| They want to go do some... | ||
| On their own time. | ||
| Yeah, because most people are not really living. | ||
| They're just surviving. | ||
| They're just existing. | ||
| Doing what they have to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the only time they feel like they're living is they're hanging out with their friends. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Having fun, relaxing. | ||
| But you can't do that professionally. | ||
| So you gotta find something you enjoy as much as your hobbies. | ||
| Figure out how to do that. | ||
| Gotta live life, you know what I mean? | ||
| Healthy. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Exercise what you eat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| When you first started posting wild shit on Twitter, did anybody ever call you and go, hey man, you gotta stop? | ||
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Of course. | |
| Everyone. | ||
| They was like, bro, what the fuck? | ||
| They called my phone like, bro, you idiot. | ||
| You calling people crackers now? | ||
| I'm like, bro, it's an uncomfortable sense of humor for comedy, bro. | ||
| Well, cracker is the most benign of all insults. | ||
| That doesn't work at all. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Everyone loves crackers. | ||
| Yeah, no one's upset. | ||
| Cheez-Its. | ||
| No one's upset. | ||
| I just feel like when they first started, when I first started, they're like, what the hell is you doing? | ||
| Oh, the faggot of the day, they're like, whoa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But I was like, you know what? | ||
| It's not meant to, like, it's meant to bring people up to say, like, yo, we could... | ||
| Have a funny moment. | ||
| For fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, fun. | ||
| Enjoy yourself, man. | ||
| Enjoy yourself. | ||
| Yeah, we need a lot more of that. | ||
| But I think we were conditioned, because of the way the old Twitter worked, to be very careful of what you said, very cautious of what you said. | ||
| And also, there was real consequences. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You wouldn't just get banned from Twitter. | ||
| You might get banned from Facebook and everything else as well, and then get labeled a dangerous person. | ||
| I remember when one of my football friends... | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Rashard Mendenhall, back in the days he tweeted, it was like 2012, he tweeted about like 9-11 when he was playing. | ||
| And I remember right away, they had like the feds calling his phone, newspaper, it was crazy. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| He just like, I don't think we should be celebrating the death, I think the death of Osama bin Laden, I think it was for the 9-11 attack, I think in 2012, I think he must. | ||
| We just killed him. | ||
| America just had killed him. | ||
| I feel like he tweeted something and it was like... | ||
| That's when we back on Twitter. | ||
| It was like you was limiting what you could say. | ||
| That was a prime example of, you know... | ||
| And did they attack him? | ||
| They attacked him all over the news. | ||
| I think that was his last year with the Steelers. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Literally. | ||
| They got rid of him because of a tweet? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| Can you find out what he said, Jamie? | ||
| 9-11. | ||
| Shout out to Rashard Mendenhall. | ||
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That's my brother. | |
| Yeah, that was a dangerous time to say controversial shit. | ||
| You'd lose your whole career and you couldn't get it back. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it'll be over. | ||
| You couldn't get it back back then. | ||
| I mean, nobody rebounded from those days. | ||
| Like, there was people that had... | ||
| Like big public personas, and then they kind of got removed from the conversation. | ||
| And even when they got brought back years later, they were so devastated. | ||
| Traumatized. | ||
| They had CT by that time. | ||
| Like, legit. | ||
| They have trauma. | ||
| Like, you're legitimately worried. | ||
| So what does he say? | ||
| Mendehal's post, day after Bin Laden news broke, said, What kind of person celebrates death? | ||
| It's amazing how people can hate a man they have never heard speak. | ||
| We only heard one side. | ||
| He also tweeted September 11 attacks. | ||
| We never know what really happened. | ||
| I just have a hard time believing a plane could take a skyscraper down, demolition style. | ||
| The latter post is eventually removed by Mendehal's Twitter page. | ||
| Wendy's offering was a different story. | ||
| I appreciate those who've decided to read this letter and attain a greater understanding of my recent Twitter post. | ||
| See, I've gotten misconstrued, and I wanted to use this outlet as a way to clear up things that do not truthfully represent myself, what I stand for personally, and any organization that I'm a part of. | ||
| First, I want people to understand I'm not in support of Bin Laden or against the USA. I understand how devastating 9-11 was to this country and to the people whose families were affected, not just in the USA, but families all over the world who had relatives in the World Trade Center. | ||
| My heart goes out to the troops who fight for our freedoms every day Not being certain if they will have the opportunity to return home and the families who watched their loved ones bravely go off to war Last year I was grateful enough to have the opportunity to travel overseas to participate in football camp and put on for the children of U.S. Troops sanctioned in Germany. | ||
| It was a special experience. | ||
| These events had a significant impact in my life. | ||
| Oh Point out the celebrates death tweet This controversial statement was something I said in response to amount of joy. | ||
| I saw in the event of murder. | ||
| Oh Don't believe this is an issue of politics or American pride, but one of religion morality and human ethics see that's the problem with Tweets because you're writing something it's 120 characters back then and it's just You know a complicated issue like that thing like maybe we shouldn't be celebrating death Maybe we shouldn't be celebrating murder, | ||
| you know, you know, maybe we should Instead of having joy and cheering, maybe we should wonder how that guy got into the position he's in in the first place. | ||
| Like, what happened? | ||
| If you know the whole history of Osama bin Laden, it's kind of fucking crazy, because he worked for us. | ||
| He was the head of the Mujahideen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and we trained them. | ||
| The CIA trained them to fight against the Soviets. | ||
| And, you know, we fucking... | ||
| Armed those people, supplied them, got them going. | ||
| And then, you know, after a while, they're like, fuck these people. | ||
| They turned on America. | ||
| And instead of being our ally, they were our worst enemy. | ||
| What are you doing over there? | ||
| Snapchat? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| No, I was just touching myself. | ||
| You don't Snapchat, do you? | ||
| No, I'm gonna be Snapchat. | ||
| No, the kids Snapchat. | ||
| My kids don't even text. | ||
| They just snap their friends. | ||
| They're in the middle of the movie theater or something. | ||
| They're like, take a weird face, send it to their friends. | ||
| I'm like, what are you doing? | ||
| This is a weird way to communicate. | ||
| Snapchat just got all the filters of the face. | ||
| You could just make a cradle with the text. | ||
| Kids are just all in addicted to Snapchat. | ||
| I was just texting my son. | ||
| You know, another thing that's weird too is they all have a snap map so they know where they all are. | ||
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They're like, oh, she's with him, that fucking bitch. | |
| You see? | ||
| You see where all your friends are. | ||
| You got a map of all your friends that you let go. | ||
| You can see a whole layout where everyone at. | ||
| It's weird, man. | ||
| They're all little surveillance experts. | ||
| Standing on the map. | ||
| Yeah, they're all little narcs. | ||
| They're all narcing at each other. | ||
| But the crazy thing is they give it up to each other. | ||
| They all, like, you have to, if you have friends, you have to let your friends know where you are on the snap map. | ||
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And if you block it, like, if you block them temporarily, what is she doing? | |
| Where do you go? | ||
| What is he up to? | ||
| You off the grid? | ||
| He's off the grid. | ||
| What is this motherfucker? | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| How's it going on? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, kids today, they don't have any fucking privacy. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Everything's exposed. | ||
| Everything's exposed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What year were you born? | ||
| 88, 1988. Okay, so by the time you were 20 years old, phones were just starting to arrive, right? | ||
| Like 98-ish. | ||
| Sidekick. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sidekicks. | ||
| Remember the sidekick? | ||
| Yeah, flip it over. | ||
| I was so jealous. | ||
| Like, wow, you got a keyboard? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You got a little keyboard? | ||
| And then people's sidekicks were getting hacked. | ||
| Remember Paris Hilton? | ||
| Some pussy photos got out, I believe. | ||
| She had to sign a vagina. | ||
| Maybe she just had a pretty one. | ||
| Some girls are just born with a pretty one. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| But some girls do get designer vaginas, which is like, ladies, you don't have to do that. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| We don't care what it looks like. | ||
| I don't mind a little chaos down there. | ||
| I don't mind a little Harry Potter. | ||
| Yeah, you don't have to. | ||
| I hit it with my wand still. | ||
| You have to trim it up, make it look like the perfect wonton. | ||
| That's not necessary. | ||
| If it's hairy, then that means it's not really being spanked a lot. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| There's a lot of hairy ladies with loose morals. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| I thought a hairy pussy is not a busy pussy. | ||
| It depends on what she's doing with it. | ||
| She might just let it work because nobody's getting it. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| If she cleaned it off, that means she's getting ready to give it. | ||
| I guess dudes do get dick operations, right? | ||
| Because they get circumcised. | ||
| That's a dick look operation. | ||
| This must be a shortage of dick. | ||
| I hear how much pussy I'm getting. | ||
| Well, that's always the story. | ||
| Is that 80% of the women are dating 20% of the men. | ||
| That's the real story of life. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| 80% of the women are attracted to and are dating, or excuse me, yeah, 80% of the women are attracted to and are dating 20% of the men. | ||
| Always. | ||
| So that's why there's so many incels in this world. | ||
| Too many ratios. | ||
| So many dudes just jerking off and playing video games because nobody wants them. | ||
| And that's a self-fulfilling prophecy because if you keep jerking off and playing video games, you're never going to succeed in life. | ||
| So no one's ever going to look at you like, hmm. | ||
| You're never going to get the opportunity. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| I'm glad I'm not born in this era. | ||
| This is a terrifying era to navigate for kids. | ||
| Also, the ability to just send a dick picture when you're 15, that's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, you can just pop it out. | ||
| Yeah, that's too much responsibility for a young man. | ||
| That's like giving a young man a nuclear weapon. | ||
| He can't handle that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's too much movie. | ||
| That's way too much. | ||
| That's way too much. | ||
| And then they all got porn now, which is even crazier. | ||
| It's too available nowadays. | ||
| Too much at the finger of these kids. | ||
| Yeah, instantaneously. | ||
| Not just porn, but murder. | ||
| Man, me and my friend Tom Segura. | ||
| Do you know Tom Segura? | ||
| I heard of his name. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| You need to do his show. | ||
| He would have you on. | ||
| Your Mom's House, it's a great podcast. | ||
| It's a huge podcast. | ||
| But he and I send each other every day the worst shit we could find on the internet. | ||
| The worst shit that... | ||
| It comes across my Instagram feed. | ||
| I send it to Tom. | ||
| It's every day. | ||
| It's someone getting murdered. | ||
| Some crazy shit out of the day. | ||
| Some craziness on there, right? | ||
| It's always some shit like, wow. | ||
| And it's not one time a day. | ||
| It's all a day, right? | ||
| It's like multiple times a day. | ||
| We're traumatizing each other. | ||
| It's like, what the hell is this? | ||
| Today was a dude who crashed his motorcycle right into a gas truck. | ||
| This dude just rode his motorcycle. | ||
| The bike explodes, catches on fire. | ||
| The tank explodes. | ||
| The dude gets cooked. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just went fried turkey on the middle of the street. | ||
| One day he's riding his motorcycle enjoying freedom and then a second later, boom! | ||
| I've seen every horrible video that's on the internet. | ||
| Every one of them. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's fucking ludicrous. | ||
| The internet is undefeated, but it is our shit. | ||
| Like, we run the internet. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's open. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the beautiful thing. | ||
| Like, you get these memes. | ||
| I don't even know who's making them, and they're hilarious. | ||
| Someone's texting them to you. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I see one. | ||
| I see one today. | ||
| I posted it. | ||
| It was like, the wrestling guy has no condoms, and then Elon Musk. | ||
| I was like, I don't like condoms either, so I could have put my name in. | ||
| Yeah, Elon Musk has how many kids now that we know of? | ||
| I didn't know he was getting so much pussy. | ||
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I thought Elon Musk was a calm guy. | |
| I wouldn't say he's calm. | ||
| I mean, I think it's going back to the Kanye Ferrari engine analogy. | ||
| It's the same kind of thing. | ||
| It's just in a different realm. | ||
| That's what he is with rocket science and car design and satellites. | ||
| Spaceship in the pussy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Also, when you are literally the richest man in the world, it just comes to you, right? | ||
| What are his DMs like? | ||
| His DM's jumping out the gym, huh? | ||
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Full of titties. | |
| Full of titties, huh? | ||
| Back shots. | ||
| Full of everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Squats and fingers. | ||
| Sucking on bananas. | ||
| His DM's must be wild. | ||
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He's got a movie theater in his DM. There's girls just thinking, like, what's the move? | |
| What's the right thing to send him? | ||
| You know Sean Kingston? | ||
| My God loves you. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's calling right now. | ||
| He's calling me right now because he loves you. | ||
| Tell him what's up. | ||
|
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Yo, Sean! | |
| What's up, Sean? | ||
| What's going on, my man? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
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I'm a huge fan, man. | |
| We gotta do an interview, man. | ||
| That's my brother you got up there, man. | ||
| Tony O'Brien is my brother, man. | ||
| Alright, man. | ||
| Well, cool. | ||
| That sounds great. | ||
| I love him, man. | ||
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I would love to go up there. | |
| What's up, A-Bizzle? | ||
| What's up, baby? | ||
| We're here with Joe right now. | ||
| We're live right now. | ||
| You live right now, Sean. | ||
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Yeah, shout out to Joe Rogan, the best motherfucking podcast. | |
| Can I curse? | ||
| Yeah, you're loud. | ||
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You're loud It's the best podcast I go to sleep watching this This man talks so many This man got knowledge of a man Listen Joe Rose is the best Thank you, sir. | |
| Appreciate you, man. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Love you, brother. | |
| I'll call you after, brother. | ||
| Everyone excited I'm here. | ||
| Even Theo Vaughn told me to play some Trick Daddy. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Everyone loves you, Joe. | ||
| Theo's the best. | ||
| Theo's the man, too. | ||
| I love that dude. | ||
| Yeah, he's the best. | ||
| He's so unique. | ||
| Yeah, he's different. | ||
| I don't know anybody like him. | ||
| Swaggy, cool, calm. | ||
| Got the mullet going. | ||
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He's swaggy. | |
| And just the way he talks. | ||
| He's so ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, he got the country. | ||
| Theo and I went to dinner the other night, and we're sitting at the table eating dinner for an hour and a half. | ||
| We're just nonstop crying, laughing. | ||
| Just crying, laughing. | ||
| At the end, my sides hurt when we got up from the table. | ||
| I was like, oh my god, that was so much fun. | ||
| Having friends like that is the best, because everywhere you go, you have a personal show. | ||
| Yeah, it's always entertaining. | ||
| Yeah, we're just always fucking around and having fun. | ||
| What about Shane Gillis? | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's the best, right? | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, we were just hanging out Tuesday night. | ||
| Yeah, Shane's awesome. | ||
| He loves you, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's my heart, man. | ||
| Yeah, all my comedian friends love you. | ||
| They're all sharing your shit all the time. | ||
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Yeah, I love those guys. | |
| Yeah, he was excited when he got Cracker of the Year, too. | ||
| Yeah, he's amazing. | ||
| He's killing it, too. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's killing it. | ||
| He's so funny, man. | ||
| And he's such a good guy. | ||
| He's such a sweetheart. | ||
| You can just see by a smile. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Just sweetheart of a guy. | ||
| And, you know, I'm just glad there's more people like that in the world. | ||
| Yeah, we need more people like that, like him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In a world that's just, you know, prayer, doing what they love, giving back comedy, making people light up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And spreading fun. | ||
| Again, back to the same thing that you do. | ||
| Fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Fun. | |
| There's people who enjoy themselves again. | ||
| You know, let's be out of natural selves. | ||
| Make the uncomfortable a little comfortable and a little fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, especially in today's era of everybody... | ||
| We're getting past the days where everything was, like, tight and everybody was going crazy. | ||
| And I think things are lightening up. | ||
| And thanks to Elon buying X, that had a huge impact. | ||
| Because I think people realize that it wasn't just them that was thinking things had gone too far. | ||
| It was most people. | ||
| But they didn't have a way to express themselves because if they said it, they got attacked. | ||
| Yeah, no one wanna ruin what they built up for a couple seconds and what they say exactly It takes so long to build your shit. | ||
| Yeah, like I just showed. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, exactly You lose everything for one moment. | |
| Yeah, so you're sitting there Maybe you got a couple of drinks in you and you're like, you know, I gotta fucking say something like someone needs to be there to grab Your hand like you know calm that shit. | ||
| No ruin everything. | ||
| Don't build this do it. | ||
| Don't do it Take yourself out the game, but I think now if you do that people go. | ||
| Yeah, I I'm glad you said that because I was thinking the same thing. | ||
| Now it's different because people feel like they can express themselves, which is the real danger of censorship. | ||
| Even if you don't agree with what someone is saying, you've got to let them say it because if you don't, someone's going to limit what you say. | ||
| And that's just the nature of free speech. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I feel like we all have the right to own opinion. | ||
| No matter if it's right or wrong, it's just your opinion. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Look, you don't have to go to your Twitter page. | ||
| You don't have to go to my Twitter page. | ||
| You don't have to listen. | ||
| Yeah, it's your option. | ||
| It's your option, but you should have that option, and you should have the option to express yourself. | ||
| You should also have the option to say things, and if you think that it was misconstrued, do what he did and lay it all out. | ||
| This is how I really feel. | ||
| This is my actual feelings, and I feel like if you read that, he should have been completely forgiven. | ||
| The idea that they traded him after that. | ||
| That's disgusting. | ||
| Because that's also censorship. | ||
| Because now you're encouraging other people to keep their mouth shut. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Showing them the rules. | ||
| The aftermath of what's going to come if you do that. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So I was grateful that we're in better times and things getting better. | ||
| People were able to express themselves more on the X app. | ||
| Thanks, Elon Musk, for giving us that good freedom of speech. | ||
| I think the country's moving in a good direction. | ||
| As long as we can avoid this fucking war, as long as we can avoid war and war with China and war with Russia and everybody else, if we could just avoid that, I think we're gonna be okay. | ||
| We just gotta make it through some weird shit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And UFOs. | ||
| And UFOs. | ||
| You saw those UFOs. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| I don't know what to think. | ||
| Some days I think we're being visited and some days I think it's all the government. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| It's all drones. | ||
| What do you think it is? | ||
| Maybe we need to just call the men in black. | ||
| See if they know. | ||
| The men in black, I think, are real. | ||
| I think that's government agents that come visit you after you've had some sort of an experience. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I think that's what it is. | ||
| I mean, there's always been these stories of men in black coming to visit people after they've had encounters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it makes sense. | ||
| If you're yapping about some shit, especially if it's actually some government shit that they're working on, and then, you know, some two men in suits come up, and when you see two men show up in a Cadillac in suits, you automatically assume they're serious people. | ||
| They get out with black suits, black ties, and they look at you and they tell you, hey, Antonio, we'd like to talk to you about your encounter. | ||
| And then you're like, oh shit, I'm in trouble. | ||
| And then they're doing some hypnosis on you and some mind control shit, you know, and bringing you in a room. | ||
| And then you leave, you don't know. | ||
| What the fuck happened? | ||
| Antonio got visited by the Men in Black. | ||
| That's what I think the Men in Black is. | ||
| I think it's government agents investigating. | ||
| Or if there's like a legitimate UFO sighting, like something legitimately that the government doesn't know what the fuck it is. | ||
| I think then also they would send people. | ||
| Who are authority figures. | ||
| What better authority figure than a man in a suit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Random as fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Will Smith. | ||
| Men in black. | ||
| Wearing a suit. | ||
| I don't think they really can erase your memory. | ||
| I don't think they go poop. | ||
| No, I don't think they can do that. | ||
| But I do think that they probably use mind control on you. | ||
| They probably hypnotize you. | ||
| They probably manipulate the way you think, especially if you're under stress, if you're nervous, like you think you could be in trouble, like something's going on. | ||
| It gets you out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I remember Tony Robbins kind of did that to me one time. | ||
| He did it to you? | ||
| Yeah, you know Tony Robbins? | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| He did that, kind of hypnosis me a little bit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How did he do it? | ||
| You gotta, like, just sink some stuff in my spirit. | ||
| Just like, yo, AB, go win the Super Bowl. | ||
| See yourself like this. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tony Robbins is really amazing. | ||
| I met him through Tom Brady. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Writing a book all the time. | ||
| Does Tom Brady use him, too? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he, like, does, like, mind coaching for you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I put you right to sleep, everything. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So how does it... | ||
| Explain it to me. | ||
| Like, lay it out. | ||
| How does it go? | ||
| It's just kind of like, you know what I mean? | ||
| Close your eyes. | ||
| You just say a lot of stuff and just... | ||
| Just kind of put it in your spirit. | ||
| You know Tony Robbins, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Bro, I read his books when I was 21 years old in 1988. I was reading his book when I was trying to figure out how to make it in comedy. | ||
| It was like a cassette thing. | ||
| You have a bunch of cassettes, and each one has work. | ||
| all these different things it's he's got like legit great information yeah i want to see him in boca return maybe like 2020 right before i got with tampa bay it was like yo you're gonna win the super bowl man you're gonna make a big catch see yourself really just lock it in in my spirit just like it's pretty cool man shout out to tony robbins for doing that i think there's something to He got a real good manifestation and just... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Downloading a program in your body just for just seeing yourself at that place. | ||
| It was another level. | ||
| I think that shit works. | ||
| I think there's limitations to it. | ||
| I don't think you could take a sloppy accountant and say, you're going to beat Mike Tyson. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
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You can't just do that shit. | |
| It doesn't work like that. | ||
| It doesn't work like that. | ||
| But I think if you're already talented and you're already in the game, you could put some things in your mind and you could make some things happen. | ||
| I think there's a little bit of something to that. | ||
| But it's not everything. | ||
| Did you ever see that movie The Secret? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's a nice book, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So The Secret, I think... | ||
| It's about some of those things, right? | ||
| It's about one aspect of it, but they concentrate too much on the one aspect. | ||
| The one aspect is the visualization, which I think is an aspect. | ||
| Like, imagining, speaking it into being... | ||
| That's one aspect. | ||
| But there's a lot of other shit too. | ||
| A lot of aspects, yeah. | ||
| There's talent. | ||
| There's hard work. | ||
| There's good coaching. | ||
| There's discipline. | ||
| Discipline is probably the most important. | ||
| Yeah, the most important. | ||
| As a football player, you must have felt like that, right? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Discipline is the way you emanate success. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You go on the road trips and you're messing with girls. | ||
| Not getting sleep. | ||
| Yeah, not getting sleep, not eating the right foods. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Not making your workouts and hitting those. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Studying that film. | ||
| Discipline the most important. | ||
| It's so important for everything in life. | ||
| So, like, to think that the secret is the only thing, you just have to think around and visualize it like, uh-uh. | ||
| It's not the only thing. | ||
| No, it's an aspect that I think is real, but the problem is people put so much emphasis on it that it becomes bullshit. | ||
| It becomes like woo-woo. | ||
| They don't think it's real. | ||
| But it is an aspect. | ||
| You know, Mike Tyson used to get hypnotized. | ||
| Gotta hypnotize yourself. | ||
| I feel like it just make your vision a part of your spirit. | ||
| Anytime, you know, because I feel like you can write stuff down, write affirmations, affirmations, you can set goals, but to meditate on them and make them a part of your spirit, like, it's different. | ||
| Yeah, to deeply think about them and embed them in your consciousness. | ||
| Make them a part of you. | ||
| Yeah, and then do all the work that's required to get yourself. | ||
| And then do all the little things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta do all that shit, too, so that it can manifest. | ||
| Everything can come together. | ||
| Yeah, so that it can happen. | ||
| And even then, it might not happen. | ||
| Like, you might not have done it right. | ||
| Maybe you need more work. | ||
| You gotta put it all together again. | ||
| Maybe you need more discipline. | ||
| Maybe you need more hard work. | ||
| Maybe you need better coaching. | ||
| But it's an aspect of success in life. | ||
| And I think with everything, with being a good parent, with being a good father, with being a good husband, with being a good friend, with being a good... | ||
| Employee, a good boss, like, with everything. | ||
| Everything you do. | ||
| You have to, like, have a mindset of what you're trying to accomplish. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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A vision. | |
| And you gotta make it a part of you. | ||
| Not just writing down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just making every aspect, every step. | ||
| If you're gonna have success, a part of you. | ||
| How many times did you do that with Tony Robbins? | ||
| I did it, like, three times. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We did his house in Boca Raton. | ||
| Did the first time freak you out? | ||
| Because the first time was probably the weirdest one. | ||
| The first time was a little weird, but then when I went to sleep and woke up, I'm like, dang, I feel refreshed. | ||
| I feel like, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| I feel like I got some new feelings in myself. | ||
| Because I feel like at that point I was going through stuff in the NFL and I was kind of like was pissed off because I kind of knew like, man, these guys could just get you out your spot whenever you want. | ||
| But it was just like, I finally realized that, you know what? | ||
| It's not even about me being right in the situation. | ||
| It's about just being happy. | ||
| What made me happy in a situation instead of just focusing on, man, I'm right, man. | ||
| They did this. | ||
| I was right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just let it go and be happy. | ||
| Well, for a player, the best revenge is to be undeniable. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Right? | ||
| People could talk all that shit, but when you're undeniable, they gotta give it up. | ||
| They gotta deal with it. | ||
| They gotta give it up. | ||
| That's the best revenge. | ||
| And I think that's probably the case in everything in life. | ||
| Is to be undeniable. | ||
| If you're undeniable, everybody's gotta shut the fuck up. | ||
| They all gotta shut the fuck up. | ||
| And if they don't shut the fuck up, they look foolish. | ||
| Not like idiots. | ||
| Not like a fool, yeah. | ||
| Just talk her for no reason because you know what happened. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's just a hater right now, boy. | ||
| Oh, there's so many haters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's so many haters. | ||
| You gotta love your ops. | ||
| I feel like haters make you go harder. | ||
| They make you work harder. | ||
| Yeah, they bring the best out of you. | ||
| Oh, yeah, they do. | ||
| Haters are good. | ||
| Fat shaming works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All that stuff. | ||
| Like, haters, like, the anger, the jealousy, mean shit, like, that motivates people. | ||
| Always reciprocate it, never doing it. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| You just don't want too much. | ||
| Don't overkill, but just a little tad bit. | ||
| If you get a little bit of snake venom every day, you get immune to snake venom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you get a big dose, it'll fucking kill you. | ||
| Yeah, take you out the game. | ||
| Yeah, don't be like reading all your hate all day long. | ||
| That's not good for you either. | ||
| But a few haters... | ||
| A little motivation to... | ||
| Let's you know you're on the right track. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's you know you're transacting. | ||
| Yeah, you want a few haters. | ||
| If you don't have haters, it means you're not doing good enough to get haters. | ||
| Everybody who's doing great gets haters. | ||
| Some haters are hilarious, though. | ||
| Some haters are so dumb. | ||
| It's like you wonder if they're real people. | ||
| Like, for fighters, it's my favorite. | ||
| Like, oh, he's a pussy. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| That man is literally a professional fighter. | ||
| And you're calling him a pussy? | ||
| That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. | ||
| Every fighter thinks every other fighter's a pussy. | ||
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They do! | |
| They think they're bitches. | ||
| Well, that's the thing about alpha males. | ||
| They think they're the only one that's an alpha male. | ||
| They don't think there's someone out there exactly like that. | ||
| Like them, exactly. | ||
| And maybe a little faster, maybe a little stronger. | ||
| Maybe balls are a little bigger. | ||
| Yeah, maybe something. | ||
| A little more testosterone. | ||
| Yeah, maybe hands a little bigger, jaws a little wider. | ||
| See that little edge. | ||
| Little edge. | ||
| Little edge that allows them to survive the firefight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How much UFC do you watch? | ||
| I watch UFC every Saturday. | ||
| Do you really? | ||
| I love Bone Jones. | ||
| I love fighting. | ||
| I feel like if I wasn't a player, I probably would have gotten into some sort of fighting. | ||
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Yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you ever do any martial arts at all? | ||
| No, when I was little, my mom signed me up for karate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do a little jujitsu. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But you never really got serious with it? | ||
| No, a couple of years. | ||
| That'd be a fun hobby for you. | ||
| I like training and working out with it, grappling, wrestling. | ||
| Jiu-jitsu is what I meant because that way you don't get hit. | ||
| I stopped sparring when I was like 27. Yeah, no hits to the heads, right? | ||
| It's over. | ||
| It's just they count. | ||
| Hits to the heads of the gym counts. | ||
| They all count. | ||
| All those little dinks, they all count. | ||
| It all adds up to some weird brain shit. | ||
| It doesn't quite work right. | ||
| This weekend's a big one, man. | ||
| Pereira and Ankulaev. | ||
| Yeah, Pereira been kicking ass, too. | ||
| He lost the last one, though, right? | ||
| He's ready to bounce back. | ||
| No, no, he won. | ||
| The last time he lost was against Israel Adesanya. | ||
| That was four fights ago, I believe. | ||
| Adesanya began his ass with a little bit, right? | ||
| He's been fighting too much. | ||
| He fight, like, back-to-back-to-back. | ||
| Well, he took a lot of time off, but, you know, he lost to Imovov, who's very, very good. | ||
| And he lost to Drekus Duplicy, who was the champion before that. | ||
| But he was winning that fight, but he got caught, and then he got strangled. | ||
| You know, I mean, it's hard to stay on top, man. | ||
| It's hard to stay on top. | ||
| And when he was in his prime, when he was dominating the division, he was the fucking man. | ||
| He was going crazy. | ||
| It's not like he's lost his skills, man. | ||
| It's just this is a tough fucking sport. | ||
| It's a tough fucking sport, and the sport does not rest. | ||
| The sport keeps evolving. | ||
| Everybody's coming. | ||
| These guys coming up, every year they're better. | ||
| Every year they're more complete. | ||
| There's no one-dimensional fighters anymore. | ||
| They can all do everything. | ||
| All these guys could just freaking bang out. | ||
| They can do everything. | ||
| The best guys today are all super multifaceted. | ||
| They all can do everything. | ||
| But then you have guys like Pereira, who's really a specialist. | ||
| He's a kickboxing specialist. | ||
| He's fired. | ||
| Do you ever watch him kickbox? | ||
| Nah, he's crazy. | ||
| I was a giant fan of his before he ever got to the UFC. I was telling everybody about him. | ||
| Like, if this guy gets to MMA, we got fucking problems. | ||
| He got problems. | ||
| That guy, he just has to touch you once. | ||
| Shit's going down. | ||
| He's so different than anybody else in the division. | ||
| Like, he knocks everybody out. | ||
| Everybody hits hard. | ||
| They all hit hard. | ||
| But he puts shit down. | ||
| Hard, hard. | ||
| Hard, hard. | ||
| You know they have that punch machine? | ||
| Oh yeah, you can see the power? | ||
| What's his power? | ||
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190. Francis Ngannou had like 130. Oh yeah, he got punch power. | |
| He's got more power than Ngannou. | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| I mean, I can't even believe it. | ||
| I want to give Francis a second chance at it. | ||
| I feel like he wasn't swinging hard enough. | ||
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I feel like if he knows that Pereira got one night, he's so much bigger. | |
| Francis is like 270 natural. | ||
| 270 pounds natural. | ||
| Fucking hog walking. | ||
| Yeah, just giant. | ||
| Massive. | ||
| And I feel like he could probably punch harder than he did. | ||
| I feel like if he knew that Pereira was going to break that record, give him a second crack at it. | ||
| Yeah, he'd probably go a little harder. | ||
| He'd probably punch it a little more hip action. | ||
| Yeah, a lot more. | ||
| Yeah, just fucking... | ||
| You know, but right now I think Pereira has the hardest. | ||
| See if you can find that video. | ||
| It's crazy to watch. | ||
| Because he... | ||
| He even does it with his right hand, which is not his power punch. | ||
| His power punch is his left hook. | ||
| His left hook is what he knocks out everybody with. | ||
| But it might be that his left hook is faster, and it's a better weapon because it's in the front, and his right hand is more powerful, but he just doesn't land it as often that way. | ||
| Did you find it? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Did you hear the thud? | ||
| Put your headphones on real quick. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Oh, you didn't get it yet? | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| You got it? | ||
|
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There's someone else talking about it. | |
| There it is. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| Put them on. | ||
|
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No, it's up there. | |
| What do you mean? | ||
| X.com full video? | ||
| Retry? | ||
|
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Yeah, it's up there. | |
| Oh, it disappeared? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Here it is. | ||
|
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That's not it. | |
| That's not it? | ||
|
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Just a picture. | |
| Oh, the video's got to be on there. | ||
|
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Yeah, you want to give me something. | |
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Yeah, here it is. | ||
| Okay, give me some volume. | ||
| 191. Watch this. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Oh. | ||
|
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Oh my gosh. | |
| Bro. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Bro, bro, bro. | ||
| That's so... | ||
| You have to understand how crazy that is. | ||
| That's an insane amount of power. | ||
| The hardest I've ever kicked it with legs. | ||
| Kicks are way harder. | ||
| The hardest I ever kicked it was like 152. And he punching 170? | ||
| 191. 191. 191 with a punch. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| His power is just from God. | ||
| It's a crazy gift. | ||
| It's different than everybody's power. | ||
| Yeah, I've never seen... | ||
| The kid he beat up, the other guy, Adesanya. | ||
| Adesanya? | ||
| Yeah, he put him down. | ||
| Well, he beat Adesanya in the first fight. | ||
| Adesanya knocked him out in the second fight in the UFC. No, they didn't fight again. | ||
| They never fought a third time. | ||
| They fought before in kickboxing. | ||
| They fought twice more, twice before that in kickboxing. | ||
| One time, Israel lost a decision that I think he should have won. | ||
| The second time, Pereira knocked him out. | ||
| And then the third time, Pereira knocked him out in the UFC. And then the fourth time, Izzy knocked him out. | ||
| Yeah, that's when he did the fell with his son, right? | ||
| He acted like he fell with his son. | ||
| Pull the arrows out. | ||
|
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Yeah, he went crazy. | |
| He went crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that was awesome. | ||
| But that's a big fight this weekend. | ||
| I'm pumped. | ||
| Uncle Ive is good, man. | ||
| That guy's really good. | ||
| Fight Night? | ||
| How excited you get on Fight Night? | ||
| Very excited. | ||
| Have you ever been to one live? | ||
| I think I've been to one live before. | ||
| Bro, you should come this weekend. | ||
| Come on, where is it? | ||
| Vegas. | ||
| Come on, let's go. | ||
| I'll hook it up. | ||
| I'll get you tickets. | ||
| I'm coming to Vegas this weekend. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I got you hooked up. | ||
| I got you hooked up. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Thanks, Joe, baby! | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I'll take care of it. | ||
| I'll text the UFC as soon as we get out of here. | ||
| Yeah, you'll love it. | ||
| You'll love it. | ||
| Live is like nothing else, man. | ||
| Especially in Vegas. | ||
| Well, Vegas is another level. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And this is like, the Vegas ones are always huge. | ||
| And this is a big one. | ||
| T-Mobile, sold out. | ||
| You know, world title fight, main event, light heavyweight title. | ||
| I mean, and the undercard's banging. | ||
| The undercard's filled with fights. | ||
| Like, killer fights in the undercard. | ||
| There's like six or seven fights that I'm like, ooh. | ||
| Side and seat out, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Yeah, Fight Night in Vegas is amazing. | ||
| And then they have Slap Fight. | ||
| Talk about CTESPN. Oh, yeah. | ||
| Slap Fight is on Friday night. | ||
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That should be on CTESPN. You should cover Slap Fight. | |
| I would love to cover Slap Fight. | ||
| That shit's hilarious. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| They fighting on site. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Smackdown. | ||
| Dudes are getting knocked into another dimension with a slap. | ||
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It's so crazy to watch. | |
| I just don't understand why people are signing up for that. | ||
| Because the thing about fighting is you're trying to not get hit. | ||
| Like, if the punches are coming, you're trying to turn away. | ||
| You're trying to move. | ||
| You're getting your head off center line. | ||
| If you're slapping, you're 100% going to get hit. | ||
| You just have to sit there and take it. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta eat that. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| And every time, full blast. | ||
| Every time, you're standing still. | ||
| Yeah, you're just waiting on him to come. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| Dana White keeps trying to get me to come see it. | ||
| I'm like, okay, I'll go. | ||
| I'll go to one of these. | ||
| But it's just so nuts. | ||
| Nah, that smack is another level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, just get a smack. | ||
| Slap knockout. | ||
| I'm surprised pro football players haven't signed up for that. | ||
| Some dudes just want to do something. | ||
| Wild fellas that want to do something. | ||
| Smack. | ||
| Just go smack somebody. | ||
| Smack! | ||
| The problem is... | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| You flip a coin to see who gets to slap who first? | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Somebody has to hit you first. | ||
| That's a huge disadvantage. | ||
| Because if you get slapped hard first... | ||
| Knocked out, you ain't going to get the get back. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, I don't even know how it works. | ||
| Like, can you get really rocked, and then they'll let you get slapped again? | ||
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Like, if you get super rocked, like your legs give out, you barely get up. | |
| Are you done? | ||
| If you go down, are you done? | ||
| Yeah, you've done. | ||
| What are the rules? | ||
| Your slap ain't working for shit. | ||
| Aren't you supposed to hold something in your hand? | ||
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I have 30 seconds. | |
| You have 30 seconds to shake back? | ||
| That's a long time to recover. | ||
| 30 seconds is a long time to recover. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| Oh, if you fall? | ||
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Yeah, there are rules. | |
| Oh, so if you get knocked down, it's over? | ||
| Yeah, you smacked out. | ||
| What's next? | ||
| Like, when are we gonna have gladiator fights? | ||
| Well, they already do that in other countries. | ||
| People put on armor and fight with swords and shit. | ||
| Kill each other? | ||
| They don't kill each other, but they beat the fuck out of each other with swords and shields and shit. | ||
| One dude was beating this dude in the head with a shield. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
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60 seconds to recover. | |
| You got a minute to recover? | ||
| Like a timeout. | ||
| See, that's the good thing about MMA is that you don't get chances to recover. | ||
| So you don't get to get knocked out again. | ||
| Because a lot of these times guys get dropped and then they get a standing A count. | ||
| Like in boxing, that's particularly dangerous. | ||
| You get a standing A count. | ||
| They clean off your gloves. | ||
| Are you okay? | ||
| You're like, yeah, come forward. | ||
| And then you're slowly getting your shit back together. | ||
| But you're not back yet. | ||
| You're still... | ||
| You're just fighting to get back. | ||
| You're still out of it. | ||
| You're still out of it. | ||
| And you're still, like, you don't know exactly what's going on. | ||
| He's just like, shit, what happened? | ||
| And then more part of it, just boom! | ||
| That kitchen sink hit you. | ||
| Whereas in MMA, the fight would have already been stopped. | ||
| Yeah, this guy's done. | ||
| But then the other side of it is in boxing, guys go down, flash knockdown, get back up, they're okay. | ||
| They brush their gloves off and then they go back to fighting. | ||
| And they're alright. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Do you watch boxing at all? | ||
| I love boxing. | ||
| Did you see the Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach fight? | ||
| Yeah, that was trash. | ||
| Well, I thought it was a good fight. | ||
| Great fight, but I just championed a guy taking a knee, talking about greasing his hair. | ||
| Yeah, that was crazy. | ||
| I'm like, yo, how are you just in the middle of the fight just go wipe your face? | ||
| Also, here's the deal. | ||
| If you take a knee, that's a knockdown. | ||
| That's a knockdown. | ||
| You got hit with a jab. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You took a knee. | ||
| And then you walked off. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That is a knockdown. | ||
| So I think they're reviewing that right now. | ||
| Nah, that guy should have lost, maybe. | ||
| Well, um... | ||
| I feel like if they do review it and they do judge it as a knockdown, which it was clearly a knockdown to everybody. | ||
| You take a knee, that's a knockdown. | ||
| I think they will probably give it to Lamont. | ||
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This is a very interesting rule. | |
| They have a power slap that kind of talks about what you guys were just discussing. | ||
| Okay, the promoter may, but is not obligated to, incorporate the following rule for any event, for any specific category matches, such as title matches. | ||
| A participant was the first defender in round one and did not elect such position. | ||
| And B, there is a KO or TKO finish of such participant in round one. | ||
| Then, after the referee declares a finish, a clock of two minutes begins. | ||
| During this time, the defender is given two minutes to recover and be examined by the supervising physician. | ||
| If the supervising physician in consultation with the referee determines that the defender has established their fitness to continue and is without medical health risk for purposes of delivering one strike to the opposing participant within such two-minute period and not receiving any further strikes as a defender, then the referee will announce the commencement of the redemption round and will instruct the striker to complete one permitted slap of their opponent. | ||
| If the return strike results in a KO or TKO finish of their opponent, the match is declared a draw. | ||
| If the return strike has any other result, the match result stands. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So you can get KO'd, you get finished, they give you two minutes to come back, and if you could knock that guy out, then it's a draw. | ||
| They also haven't used the rule yet. | ||
| So you go knockout for knockout. | ||
| Boy, that rule looks like it's written by lawyers, doesn't it? | ||
| Doesn't that rule look written by lawyers? | ||
| So find out what's happening, because I think they were going to announce something today about Lamont Roach, Gervonta Davis' decision. | ||
| On the knockdown. | ||
| It was a very good fight, though. | ||
| Lamont Roach is very good. | ||
| I was really impressed. | ||
| Because Tank is nasty. | ||
| Tank is so fucking powerful. | ||
| He's so vicious. | ||
| His one-punch power at 135 is like nobody else's in the division. | ||
| The way he starches people is crazy. | ||
| He gets so much... | ||
| Torque and power into his punches and he's so fast. | ||
| He covers ground and his uppercuts, they're just fucking devastating. | ||
| So like for Lamont Roach, not just to survive, but you know... | ||
| Do some damage. | ||
| To do damage and... | ||
| Put him on a knee. | ||
| Basically bring it to a draw, which if they do change this because of that knee, it becomes a victory. | ||
| I think it should be a victory for him. | ||
| And I think they should do a rematch. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Everybody saw it. | ||
| You can't get around what everybody saw. | ||
| Look, it wasn't a legit knockdown like he hurt Tank. | ||
| Tank did have some shit in his eyes. | ||
| But what are you doing putting shit in your hair when you have a world title fight? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And no one want to hear about it in the middle of a fight. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| If a fly fly by, drop the ball, bro. | ||
| Drop the damn ball. | ||
| We don't care if a fly flew by your helmet or your eyes. | ||
| Yeah, nobody gives a fuck about that. | ||
| You can't be a championship fighter. | ||
| Taking a knee and putting on those type of performances. | ||
| Also, what are they putting in his hair? | ||
| That when he's sweating, it's dripping into his eyes. | ||
| Like, what is that shit? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bro, shave your head. | ||
| There's no way, right? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Shave your fucking head. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Don't be pretty, boy. | ||
| You better go get this fight. | ||
| Get those fucking braids out of there. | ||
| You don't need those. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a good-looking guy. | ||
| He doesn't need all that crazy braids and shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's, uh... | ||
| It makes a rematch very exciting, though. | ||
| And I think that's great for Javante because other than Shakur, who's the other major star, and then Lomachenko if he decides to fight again. | ||
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But other than that, there's not a lot of compelling challenges out there for him. | |
| So now this Lamont Roach fight becomes the most compelling fight in the division for him. | ||
| That would be pretty cool. | ||
| What? | ||
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I don't know if this is the official response. | |
| This is wild. | ||
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Is it? | |
| What? | ||
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This was posted a day ago, I guess. | |
| During the round in question, the following the commission's request for the replay video, there was a technical issue preventing the commission from receiving it within the allotted time to review. | ||
| Therefore, the referee's in-ring decision was relied upon and the fight continued. | ||
| Yeah, I did see that. | ||
| The instant replay, there was a technical issue. | ||
| When they went to the corner, right after the knockdown, they tried to go to an instant replay and it wasn't available. | ||
| And so they said, what do we do here? | ||
| And the referee wanted to start the fight again. | ||
| They let the referee start the fight again. | ||
| I thought this was saying they couldn't review this because of... | ||
| Oh, you mean after? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was in the moment. | ||
| Only in the moment. | ||
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They couldn't get a tape, so there's... | |
| No, you couldn't do that. | ||
| That would be ridiculous. | ||
| Well, we still can't find it. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| It's like Epstein's client list. | ||
| Oh, okay, I'll find it. | ||
| Looking for it. | ||
| Trying to help, guys. | ||
| Doing our best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, obviously everybody's seen it. | ||
| We've all seen it online. | ||
| I saw it during the fight. | ||
| I didn't even know the fight was going on. | ||
| My friend Jamar texted me, you watching this Davis fight? | ||
| I'm like, oh shit, I forgot. | ||
| And I caught it in the 12th round, then I went back and watched the whole thing the next day. | ||
| It was an amazing fight. | ||
| Amazing fight. | ||
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It was amazing. | |
| It was a lot of energy. | ||
| I feel like people used to tank just knocking people out early in the round. | ||
| So to see him go to the deep end, 12th round, seeing that both of the guys was damaging each other and putting them in a good fight was pretty... | ||
| It was a very good fight. | ||
| Amazing fight. | ||
| Very competitive fight for a guy who doesn't have competitive fights. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because Givenchy just steamrolls. | ||
| He's undefeated. | ||
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He's knocking guys out. | |
| Steamrolls everybody. | ||
| And everybody's scared of him. | ||
| And Lamont was not scared of him. | ||
| But they have fought in the amateurs before. | ||
| I think they fought twice in the amateurs. | ||
| But Lamont's a new star. | ||
| That guy's super, super legit. | ||
| Super legit. | ||
| And very skillful. | ||
| It wasn't just that, like, you know, like, Gervonta didn't show up or Gervonta wasn't at his best. | ||
| No, Lamont fought a fantastic fight. | ||
| You know what I'm excited for, man? | ||
| Terrence Crawford and Canelo. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| That's a huge fight. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| A lot of people think Terrence is too small. | ||
| He weighed himself the other day. | ||
| He was 185 pounds. | ||
| He just looks scrawny in the ring. | ||
| Well, he gets down. | ||
| 150? | ||
| Well, he just won the 154 pound title. | ||
| And, you know, before that he was fighting at Walter weight, which is 147. But it's not like he doesn't have time to, like, thicken up a little bit. | ||
| And if he's walking around at 185, that means he probably cuts a considerable amount of weight to get down to 54. And now, but I think he's getting thicker. | ||
| And he was deadlifting 450 pounds the other day. | ||
| You like deadlifts? | ||
| I think they can fuck your back up. | ||
| Them shits are trash, bro. | ||
| You do a deadlift, you're just fucking your back up. | ||
| You can fuck your back up. | ||
| Yeah, like, it's no, like, I don't know who made up do deadlifts. | ||
| That's the worst shit you could ever do. | ||
| Like, for what, though? | ||
| Like, what is it? | ||
| You're never gonna do that motion and fight it? | ||
| And what is it? | ||
| It's supposed to make your back strong? | ||
| It's supposed to make your overall chain strong. | ||
| It's one of the best exercises to make your overall chain strong. | ||
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So tried. | |
| So tried. | ||
| Because you're picking up the... | ||
| The bar off the ground, and there's already gravity. | ||
| Right, and a lot of stress on that lower back. | ||
| Super stress on your lower back, your knees, you gotta... | ||
| You know Robert Oberst? | ||
| You know who he is? | ||
| He did the podcast once. | ||
| He's a professional strongman. | ||
| Like one of the biggest motherfuckers you'll ever see. | ||
| Like a house. | ||
| Just like this big. | ||
| He's like, don't do deadlifts. | ||
| Never do deadlifts. | ||
| It's going to ruin your back, your knees, everything. | ||
| You hurt yourself. | ||
| There's no position you're going to put yourself in fighting that's going to make you bend over like that. | ||
| A lot of guys do them, though. | ||
| It's the worst thing you could ever do. | ||
| I've heard people say that if you do them correctly, they can decompress your back. | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| You could do a lot more exercises for your back. | ||
| But I'm like, explain how. | ||
| Explain how it can ever decompress your back. | ||
| You're pounding your back. | ||
| You're picking up weights on the floor. | ||
| No matter what you do, as you're lifting, even if you're fully extending and stretching your body forward, you're compressing your back when you have that enormous amount of weight. | ||
| There's no way you're not compressing your back. | ||
| You've got to compress your back. | ||
| What about lighter deadlifts? | ||
| What about deadlifts just like for reps? | ||
| I'm like, deadlifts is trash, man. | ||
| You want to do leg exercise, work your hamstring, glutes, and do cap raises or something else. | ||
| Do you do Nordic curls? | ||
| Do you ever do those? | ||
| Nordic curls is the best. | ||
| You do those? | ||
| For your hamstrings, yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Tremendous for your hamstrings. | ||
| Isolate your hems right away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you want to work your leg and lower back, do those, yeah. | ||
| The first time I did, I was like, what? | ||
| I couldn't do one. | ||
| I was like, this is crazy. | ||
| Isolate your hamstring right away. | ||
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There's no cheating. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| No cheating. | ||
| No cheating. | ||
| All hamstrings. | ||
| All hams. | ||
| Such a great exercise just to develop strength around your knees, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's isolation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For hams. | ||
| So, when you're in the NFL, what is the strength and conditioning program like for a receiver? | ||
| Do they tailor your strength and conditioning routines depending upon what position you play? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, for a guy like you, you obviously have to stay fast. | ||
| You've got to be quick and twitchy. | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| Twitchy. | ||
| Yeah, twitchy meaning you explosive to get out. | ||
| Yeah, you got to be elusive in your body movement. | ||
| But you want to have a lot of strength, too. | ||
| Just enough, because you're going to get hit, pushed around in your shoulders and your legs and your glutes. | ||
| So what kind of stuff do they have you do? | ||
| So many launches, single launches, explosive launches when you're driving up, hamstring curls, bench press, dumbbells, single arms, a lot of core rotations. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| A lot of single leg calves, a lot of ankle work. | ||
| Do they have you do plyos? | ||
| For sure plyos. | ||
| Single leg jumps, two leg jumps, explosive, sideway, linear jumps. | ||
| And when they make a program for you, do they lay out the progress they're looking to achieve? | ||
| How do they do a program for a guy like you? | ||
| See, the NFL is a team made up of... | ||
| 50 players, 60 players. | ||
| So sometimes the weight room usually just have usually specific sheets that, you know, guys follow with the training. | ||
| But the more smarter you are, the more intuitive you are as a player individually, you know, you need to... | ||
| For me, the little things that made me the difference, the working on little stuff, like your arch. | ||
| You may not think your arch is an important muscle or how to work the arch. | ||
| Arch of your foot? | ||
| Arch of your foot, yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, gripping the towels with your big toe, grabbing the towel, working the arch, making your big toe go over here. | ||
| Because your arch is, you know, super important, being a receiver. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I never thought about that. | ||
| So you do, like, foot-strengthening exercises. | ||
| Even your big toe. | ||
| Actually, you run it in the game, and your big toe just give out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That happens to guys, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Turf toe. | ||
| Turf toe, exactly. | ||
| So it's like the little exercise that could preeminate your feet from just being healthy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Your arch, your big toe. | ||
| Because that's the first thing that hit the ground. | ||
| And guys don't really consider these things when they just want to work the big exercise muscles. | ||
| But it starts from the ground up. | ||
| Your feet, your arches, and your big toe could be good and strong. | ||
| It's the first thing that you're going to hit. | ||
| Nick Curson's a famous strength and conditioning guy in the MMA world. | ||
| And that was what he told me. | ||
| He said foot strength is the number one flaw that a lot of people have. | ||
| Exactly, because they don't feel like... | ||
| That muscle or that thing that we work out, that thing shows, you know, the big muscles. | ||
| So it's all about the little stuff that preeminates your success, man. | ||
| You're a receiver, you know you're going to have to get off the ball. | ||
| You're going to have to run and cut, stop. | ||
| So the more important thing, you can get right of your feet. | ||
| That's going to be the first thing to hit the ground. | ||
| So can you explain to me what you're doing with your toes and a towel? | ||
| So let's say if it's a towel, like, you know when you run, you got the ball of your feet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Ball of your feet hit first, and then you grip. | ||
| Ball of your feet, then you grip the towel. | ||
| Ball of your feet hit, then grip. | ||
| So you're working that arch, and you're working on just the grip of your toes. | ||
| And are you just holding the towel with your hands? | ||
| Like, how are you doing the towel? | ||
| You put the towel on the ground. | ||
| Oh, on the ground. | ||
| Yeah, just like that. | ||
| Have you done this, Jamie? | ||
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Yeah, I do it all the time. | |
| You do it all the time? | ||
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Every day, right? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| How come you never told me? | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, this is the best right there. | ||
| That work, your arches are your feet. | ||
| That little exercise right there, Joe, that would make a tremendous difference in your feet, bro. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I'm going to do that tomorrow. | ||
| How many reps do you do? | ||
| I feel like you could go two minutes, just burn out. | ||
| You just do it until you burn out. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to feel the burn right away. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then does it suck to walk afterwards? | ||
| No, I feel really good to walk. | ||
| You're going to tell the difference between your feet right away. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I jump rope. | ||
| I feel like that's really good for your feet. | ||
| Really good, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this is the maintenance of your feet with just a low exercise. | ||
| Yeah, that seems like a really smart one. | ||
| Yeah, this is physical therapy, one of the best exercises you could do. | ||
| What happens when you get too good at the towel? | ||
| Do you move up to like a rug? | ||
| Yeah, you go single leg. | ||
| Now you go single leg or one leg grip. | ||
| Oh, ooh. | ||
| So like standing on one leg? | ||
| And grip, yeah. | ||
| So you're balancing and then gripping at the same time. | ||
| You stack it up and you take the balance. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| The grips to the balance. | ||
| Oh, I like it. | ||
| So now you're active on it while gripping. | ||
| Ooh, I like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all about your wills, man. | ||
| You know what I just started incorporating into my workouts over the last few months that I never did before is rotational exercises. | ||
| And I feel like an asshole. | ||
| I have a reoccurring thing that I got on my lower back that's like... | ||
| I think it's really... | ||
| It's a bunch of different things, but I think mostly it's 10 to 9. It's mostly overuse because it would start to hurt and I would just ignore it and keep doing it. | ||
| I got it from archery where it just started flaring up because it's like... | ||
| When I'm shooting the bow, the bow is 80 pounds to pull back, and I do it 150 times a day. | ||
| So that's like 150 rows with 80 pounds. | ||
| So doing that all the time, my lower back and stabilizing, it started to flare up, and I'm an idiot. | ||
| So I was like, don't be a pussy. | ||
| Just keep going. | ||
| Power through. | ||
| And in power through and it got inflamed. | ||
| And it's taken a few months for it to get better. | ||
| But one of the best ways it got better was rotational exercises. | ||
| You know, like with a bar where you like twist it like that. | ||
| Those twit with cables, like, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's the best exercises. | ||
| Oh, it's like that's... | ||
| Yeah, movements. | ||
| It works so well with athletics. | ||
| For me, with martial arts, it works so well. | ||
| And I'm like, why wasn't I doing that before? | ||
| Like, I would just do linear stuff, like chin-ups, push-ups, dips, squats, all that other basic shit. | ||
| But when I started doing twisting things, I'm like, man. | ||
| And then I feel like I have more power now with things. | ||
| More range and ability, right? | ||
| Yes, I have more strength in my lower back. | ||
| So for kicking... | ||
| Like, it's everything in there. | ||
| Like, that ability to whip. | ||
| And I'm like, why wasn't I doing this forever? | ||
| It's kind of crazy that it took me getting injured before I started doing it. | ||
| That's how it always happens. | ||
| You know what my favorite one is? | ||
| When you're sitting, like, I sit on a mat with my feet up in the air, and then I take a 50-pound kettlebell, and I keep my feet up. | ||
| And I rotate sideways. | ||
| Ooh, that's the one, dude. | ||
| That's the one right there, yeah. | ||
| That is the one. | ||
| Because when you do it like that, it's like, you just feel. | ||
| I feel good, all your rotators. | ||
| Yeah, and it warms everything up, and it loosens it, it stretches it a little bit, because when you get to here, you know, you're challenging your range of mobility. | ||
| And then you get to here and here, you know, it's like, and it's hard to do, so your abs are firing, everything's working. | ||
| Yeah, we got everything activated, man. | ||
| You look good at your age, man. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I try, I try. | ||
| I'm trying to keep up. | ||
| Try to just keep it active. | ||
| Keep it going. | ||
| But all those different exercises are huge, and I ignored a lot of them. | ||
| But that's the thing about getting injured. | ||
| Sometimes you get injured, you go, okay, why did I get injured? | ||
| I need to do more preventative stuff. | ||
| Yeah, like you're doing with your feet, like more of that. | ||
| So when you do plyometric stuff, do they have you do stuff on like balance balls and shit too? | ||
| Of course, balance balls, explosive launches, maybe put the track ladders. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, jumping over those is always a good one for plyo for explosion. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Speed bands. | ||
| When did players start realizing that that's something to incorporate? | ||
| Because I would imagine if you go back to the early days, they were probably doing regular weightlifting stuff, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I feel like if you want to be an explosive athlete, you got to get into plyos. | ||
| If you want to be explosive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Especially if you're a wide receiver or defensive back, guys who got to be athletic and jump high and attack the balls and do different stuff. | ||
| You know, maybe like an old lineman may not be getting the balls, so they might focus on lifting weights and, you know what I mean, being strong and combative. | ||
| You know what else I started adding to? | ||
| Ab wheel to my feet when you do explosive push-ups. | ||
| So you explode up, you roll your abs forward on the wheel, and then you come down and catch yourself, and then explode up and roll the wheel forward, and then come down and catch yourself. | ||
| You clap and catch yourself. | ||
| I learned that from Artur Bitterbeev, the light heavyweight champion, this crazy dude from Chechnya. | ||
| That's explosive push-ups. | ||
| Yeah, but with an ab wheel. | ||
| He does it with an ab wheel. | ||
| I was like, oh, that's next level. | ||
| That's next level. | ||
| There's, like, so many different things you could see, like, really elite, high-level guys do. | ||
| You're like, oh. | ||
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I get it. | |
| Just mobility drills. | ||
| Hip exercises, rotating the hips is a big one. | ||
| What kind of shit do you do for that? | ||
| You go single leg. | ||
| I like to do the single leg and then be on one leg and then rotate your hip like if you was doing the... | ||
| Full circle of your hip, but do it on one leg so you get the glute burning. | ||
| Oh, so you're doing that on one, and you're balancing too. | ||
| Yeah, so you're on one leg, just try to rotate this hip forward 10 and backwards 10. On one leg, opening the hips is always key. | ||
| Laying on the ground, getting this leg to this leg, this leg to this arm, you know, laying on your stomach, rotating your back leg to your back. | ||
| Staying open. | ||
| I feel like the older we get, the tighter your muscles get. | ||
| Make sure you're stretching more than you tighten them up. | ||
| Keep your muscles long as you get older to keep your muscles soft. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When I'm getting lazy, I don't stretch either. | ||
| Gotta stretch. | ||
| I realize, yeah, that's probably also how I get injured. | ||
| Do you ever fuck with yoga? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yoga is amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love yoga, man. | ||
| Scratch. | ||
| You feel like... | ||
| Once you do yoga, your body feels better overall even once you're done, right? | ||
| You can feel the difference right away. | ||
| Yeah, you feel like everything's working together too. | ||
| Like all the connective areas are getting strengthened. | ||
| All the balance and all the stuff that keeps your posture in line. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Health is wealth, man. | ||
| Anytime, you know, you got to make accountability to be able to... | ||
| You know, take care of yourself. | ||
| That's what life's about. | ||
| You know, exercising, eating healthy. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Giving yourself a chance to live a good life. | ||
| Do they coach in the NFL how to eat? | ||
| What supplements to take? | ||
| Do they tell you what to do? | ||
| I mean, they can't. | ||
| They will. | ||
| But it's usually, you know, kind of up to you and yourself as a player. | ||
| You know, if you want to take care of yourself, they're getting your blood work and got everything right in front of you. | ||
| So for me, I usually take my blood tests and know what my body digests, what food I need to put in and take. | ||
| What provides less inflammatory? | ||
| What's good for me? | ||
| What's not? | ||
| So when they take your blood test, do they sit down with you and go over the results and talk to you about what you need? | ||
| It's got to be for you. | ||
| You got to take the initiative to go to them. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| This is a business at the end of the day. | ||
| You've got to do what's best for you yourself. | ||
| For sure, but I would imagine for them, it would be beneficial to them to make their athletes perform at the very best they can. | ||
| So give them as much information as they could. | ||
| I would hope so, but using the NFL, they pay you money and it's like... | ||
| You figured it out. | ||
| Yeah, some of you now. | ||
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| What about saunas and cold plunge? | ||
| Saunas the best. | ||
| Everyday cold plunge. | ||
| Sauna, man, that's healthy living. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Saunas the best. | ||
| Flush out, cold tub, filling brand new. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's preeminent recovery right there. | ||
| It's everything, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you live for. | ||
| The hot steam, cold tub, man, that's the best feeling ever. | ||
| So what's the next move right now for Antonio Brown? | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| I feel like, you know, just keep, you know, being myself, giving back to the world. | ||
| I feel like I want to start a 7-on-7 team, give some local kids in Miami, Tampa, some opportunities to... | ||
| Travel, you know, play 707 flag football. | ||
| Obviously, podcast, maybe do more on CTSPN. You know, just be happy and hopefully the Hall of Fame in 2027. Oh, okay, nice. | ||
| You know, me and Ben Roethlberger are in that class together. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So, that'll be a good opportunity. | ||
| What do you do with kids? | ||
| Were you talking about flag football? | ||
| Yeah, flag football is a big thing right now where you take the kids. | ||
| Different tournaments all over the world, allowing them to complete, giving them opportunities to live their dreams. | ||
| Different age groups, you know what I mean? | ||
| And you're involved in that? | ||
| Yeah, setting it up now to get our own team. | ||
| Me and Kodak Black, one of my close friends from Miami, probably started a volleyball league for the women and some flag football for the team. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| Community activities to help some kids achieve their goals and taking them to different tournaments to be able to compete all over the world. | ||
| Well, that's cool that you have that focus that you want to like help kids to you know help them You know and also like when they see a guy like you has done it been there done that You know been at the top they could say oh, it's Paul. | ||
| He's human He's just like me, you know and him talking to me and working with me Maybe I can get something done in this life. | ||
| I got some new music coming out Actually tomorrow song called click it 41, Cal, Rich, Tata, Jen, Carter. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| It's been a blessing, man. | ||
| Are you working with Kanye anymore? | ||
| Yeah, I work with him too. | ||
| I got some cool stuff coming as well. | ||
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| Still working with him? | ||
| When was the last time you saw him? | ||
| I saw him in LA a couple weeks ago. | ||
| He's a wild man. | ||
| When he showed up at the Grammys with his wife naked? | ||
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| Turn around. | ||
| Okay, bye. | ||
| And then he leaves. | ||
| He doesn't even go to the Grammys. | ||
| He just shows up, walks the red carpet, his wife takes his clothes off, and he goes home. | ||
| Yeah, he's just out there. | ||
| Okay, we good. | ||
| Yeah, he's good, man. | ||
| We decided about, you know, he brought me this chain with Donda Sports. | ||
| He bought you that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Donda Sports. | ||
| The sports brand that he opened up. | ||
| That's the GDP of a small island. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at the size of that fucking thing. | ||
| So we got to get Donda Sports back, you know. | ||
| Kanye made me president of the Donna Sports. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| A lot of basketball team we used to have in L.A. A lot of kids came out of it. | ||
| We plan on getting back to it and doing some other things creatively in the music space. | ||
| So I'm excited for those announcements coming soon in 2025. Oh, that's cool. | ||
| So what sports are you getting involved with? | ||
| Basketball has been a huge sport for Donna Sports. | ||
| Had a couple of players. | ||
| So what is he doing? | ||
| Is he managing them? | ||
| He had a whole prep school that was allowing the kids to go to school, down to sports, giving them the opportunity to play basketball, taking them to play different games. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I mean, we had Rob Dillingham who used to be in the program who played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, now got drafted, who went to Kentucky University. | ||
| I think he went to Duke University and came out and went. | ||
| Oh, that's cool. | ||
| So he represents them, gives them advice? | ||
| Not even represent them, just allow them to go to school and play basketball. | ||
| Oh, just help them? | ||
| Yeah, just help them to get to the next level. | ||
| Not even represent them. | ||
| But also, being under that umbrella is notoriety. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Getting them the exposure, the right opportunities to just go to the next level. | ||
| So is this something Kanye's going to expand to other sports as well? | ||
| I mean, we was talking about it. | ||
| They don't really know a lot about sports. | ||
| That's why he put me on to Justin LaBoya in regards to basketball and other sports athletes. | ||
| Just give them the opportunity to live out their dreams. | ||
| That's really cool, man. | ||
| That's very cool. | ||
| It's nice that you're interested in doing that, that you want to help young kids achieve their goals. | ||
| I've been blessed in my life to live a beautiful life, experience in the NFL. That's our jobs. | ||
| You know, humans, you know, give other people the best experience. | ||
| You know, give them a chance to do something they may not be able to do in their life. | ||
| So I'm grateful just to be in that position, you know, to give back. | ||
| That's a beautiful philosophy. | ||
| It's a good way to look at life. | ||
| You know, you're living your life. | ||
| You're happy. | ||
| You're also helping people be happy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And cracking on people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A couple jokes here and there. | ||
| You write all that shit yourself or do you have anybody help you? | ||
| I'll be writing it. | ||
| You write all of it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god, that's amazing. | ||
| I'll be writing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Well, the response has been pretty amazing, right? | ||
| They love it. | ||
| Smokes and jokes, man. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| I mean, imagine the idea of an ex-football player starting an award show and he gets 200 million views. | ||
| He has a blessing. | ||
| I mean, very much so. | ||
| But it was also because you had laid the groundwork of being funny all the time on Twitter and being that wild follow that people like to go check you out. | ||
| So when you do something like that award show, everybody's like, yeah, I can't wait. | ||
| I'm looking forward to it. | ||
| Bro, I was getting texts all day long, man. | ||
| That was a big deal. | ||
| So many people were sending me texts about it. | ||
| Thank you for participating with it, man. | ||
| That was awesome, man. | ||
| That was a big deal. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| Everybody was excited. | ||
| I was like, yeah, Joe on it. | ||
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| Yeah, everybody was excited. | ||
| Because, like I said, it's just, it's fun. | ||
| It's like a thing that wasn't around before, and it's like a sign that everything's getting back to normal, that you can do fun kind of shit like that again. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We gotta do more. | ||
| Let's do it better this time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think now everybody is looking forward to the next one. | ||
| Like, now it's established. | ||
| You know, when you have the second annual awards, everybody's gonna be very excited about it, because it's... | ||
| It's a necessary thing. | ||
| We need more ridiculous shit in this world to take the burden off of a lot of people, just the regular life. | ||
| You need fun. | ||
| Yeah, we need an excitement. | ||
| Yeah, it's valuable. | ||
| It's not just silly. | ||
| It's valuable for people's mental health. | ||
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It brings people joy and happiness. | |
| When my friends send me a funny meme and then I send it to them, we're all like... | ||
| I should make you happy, right? | ||
| It makes you happy. | ||
| It makes me happy. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| It's like some of the biggest laughs of my day are memes. | ||
| And I don't even know... | ||
| Who's making them? | ||
| I don't know who's... | ||
| It's coming out the blue. | ||
| It's just like the universe is creating. | ||
| I mean, it's obviously people are doing it, but I don't even know who they are. | ||
| Sometimes you do. | ||
| Sometimes a person, like, you know you can give them credit. | ||
| I'll give them credit, but sometimes, like, I don't know where this came from. | ||
| It's on 15 different Instagram pages. | ||
| People just sending it to you like, all right. | ||
| I was throwing up my stories. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a fun time, man. | ||
| It's a fun time. | ||
| I'm glad you're a part of it. | ||
| Having a guy like you out there, having a good time, cracking jokes, it opens up the door for other people to do the same. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Keep it light. | ||
| Have a good time. | ||
| Enjoy yourself. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Anything else you want to talk about before we wrap this up? | ||
| I think we hit it all. | ||
| We hit it all? | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Tell everybody how they find you on X, AB. AB84 on X, AB on IG. Antonio Brown to the world. | ||
| Hall of Fame 2027. Website? | ||
| AntonioBrown.com. | ||
| CrashOutBuckets.com. | ||
| CTSPN.com. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| All right, brother. | ||
| Well, thank you very much for being here. | ||
| Continue success. | ||
| I'm a fan. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| I love you, too. | ||
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| Thank you. |
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