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Feb. 10, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2270 - Bridget Phetasy
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joe rogan
The Joe Rogan experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day Rock horse This thing is no one's happy with just being like a little successful You get a little successful and then they want to get more Is that everyone though?
I don't know.
Is that you Bridget?
bridget phetasy
I'm I'm I'm a little successful That's it.
And I'm happy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like, I don't know.
You just gotta find...
Why are you doing it?
You don't want to just be on a hamster wheel.
bridget phetasy
Well, I think it's easy to get lost in chasing more.
I'm an addict, so I try to stay away from analytics and all that stuff because I can become hyper-focused and obsessed with them.
joe rogan
Well, right.
bridget phetasy
And one of the reasons that after I did...
Who was it?
I was opening for Landau, and we would go out and just talk to the people after the show, and they were like, oh my gosh, I love Walken's Welcome, I love Dumpster Fire, and it was such a good reminder that...
You get, like, chasing numbers, and it was like, oh, no, these are not just numbers.
They're people, unless you're, like, buying bots.
But I think it can be easy to just get on that hamster wheel and start being like, we need more.
We need more downloads.
We need more and more and more, and then you forget.
And I never want to take the audience we have for granted.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
You know, like, they're amazing.
Some of these people have been with me for...
Forever.
joe rogan
That's kind of the key to it all, right?
It sounds so corny because it's such a new wellness way of looking at things.
Have gratitude.
But gratitude is very important.
It's really important to be thankful for what you have.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and it was one of the key things in getting sober.
I think when I've dealt with anxiety, depression, other things in my life, gratitude is a powerful mechanism for shifting your Your perspective because you can get into that feeling of like not being enough, not having enough, not...
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
It never being enough.
joe rogan
Brian Callen was telling me about his buddy who's a billionaire.
His buddy's worth like $3 billion and he feels like he's poor because he's friends with people who have $100 billion.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, imagine.
bridget phetasy
No, I mean, this, when I was dating this very wealthy guy who is, like, probably half of a billionaire, you know, like 500 millionaire, and we were in Saint-Tropez, and he felt poor.
I remember being, I remember it so vividly.
I was in the shower, and he loved me because I was, like, this, like, poor backpacker that was, like...
Bohemian.
Yeah, he's like, look at this entertaining...
joe rogan
She's an artist.
bridget phetasy
He wanted me to be like his pet monkey that came around and just made him laugh.
And I gave him shit, and I think guys like that are used to be...
You get surrounded by yes-men, too, at a certain...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
bridget phetasy
And you don't have people taking the piss out of you, and so I would make fun of him for his boring stories about his mattresses, that people would sit there...
I'm like, why are you guys listening to this guy talk about a mattress for an hour?
And...
He was, I was in the shower and he was talking about how he and his friends got together and he's like, you know, we sat around and we were talking and there's a certain level at which you can be happy no matter what.
And I thought I had been rubbing off on him.
Like, oh, my yogi spirituality is rubbing off on him.
joe rogan
What did he get to like $10 billion?
bridget phetasy
No, he goes, and it's $250 million.
unidentified
I was like, what?
I'm crying.
bridget phetasy
The rest of us, Schwartz, by the way.
unidentified
That's so funny.
Like, I'm sitting there in his Carrera Marvel freaking shower.
joe rogan
Imagine the thought that the only way you could ever be happy is with $250 million.
bridget phetasy
That's the minimum.
joe rogan
By the way, I know some people worth $250 million that are miserable as fuck.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
It's not going to do it.
bridget phetasy
It's not.
joe rogan
It's not going to do it at all.
unidentified
It's like, I'm sorry, where does that leave people like me?
No.
bridget phetasy
Donut.
joe rogan
You need, I think you need a few things.
You need your health above and all.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it doesn't matter how much you are.
joe rogan
You have to have your health.
That's number one.
Number two is you have to have friends.
If you're just like the man and everybody's kissing your ass and you're the head of this giant business and you live in a bubble, you're not happy.
That's not happy.
Happy is you have to have colleagues.
You have to have companions, comrades.
You have people that you're like them.
You get to hang together and go to dinner and laugh and hug each other.
Have fun.
Enjoy your life.
bridget phetasy
I was thinking about even the other night in the green room.
It's like everyone takes the piss out of each other.
It doesn't fucking matter what level you're at, who you are.
Everybody's talking shit.
It keeps everybody...
It doesn't matter.
You can walk out that door and be very famous, but in that room, it's just comedians talking shit.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful environment to keep your head straight.
bridget phetasy
It's necessary, I think, too.
Even though you might think you want...
Yes men all around you.
I think what I've learned even just from being around rich guys who I talk a lot of shit to is they don't really want that.
joe rogan
No.
It's uncomfortable.
You don't want yes men around you.
You want people that are making fun of you.
bridget phetasy
And also, you need people to push back.
joe rogan
I think it also depends on what is your personality.
Some people are, like, very deeply, deeply insecure, and they really almost desire yes-men just to maintain stability.
Some people are very weird, you know?
And you don't know it because their public face is that they're normal.
You know, their public face when they're getting interviewed, they know how to, like, turn it on for five minutes, but then when you're around them all day, you know, they're fucking crazy people.
Which is why they're successful in the first place, which is really weird.
It's like, what got you the dance is...
Literally, mental illness.
bridget phetasy
I was talking to, I think Malice came on my podcast recently.
joe rogan
He's the best.
unidentified
He's the best.
bridget phetasy
One of my best friends, truly.
joe rogan
Is he doing stand-up now?
bridget phetasy
I hope he does.
joe rogan
I heard he's doing stand-up.
I heard he's going to do stand-up or he's planning on doing stand-up.
bridget phetasy
He wants to, but here's the thing.
He probably has to do it at Mothership.
Like, he can't be at an open mic where somebody's going to record.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He could totally do Mothership Over Mike.
bridget phetasy
Okay, so we're going to make that happen.
joe rogan
Sunday and Monday nights.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that's what I said.
I was like, talk to Joe.
joe rogan
Oh, I'd let him go up and do a guest spot on one of my shows.
Fuck it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's funny, man.
unidentified
Yeah, he is.
joe rogan
He's fucking funny.
When he said that, you know, that viral clip when, you know, you're an ableist.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And I'm like, an ableist?
He's like, she's a retard.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
He's so quick.
joe rogan
Oh, his timing is excellent.
He's such a smart guy.
Except when it comes to the whole anarchy thing.
We don't need cops.
I'm like, listen, bitch, you need a cop just to keep me from you.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
You don't need cops.
What are you talking about?
Shut the fuck up.
You need cops.
bridget phetasy
But he was saying...
joe rogan
You need cops!
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't want to hear that nonsense.
bridget phetasy
No, I mean...
joe rogan
I don't want to hear that no law and order nonsense.
Shut the fuck up.
bridget phetasy
I just am like, where are you in this hierarchy?
Yeah, you're dead.
joe rogan
You're dead.
I'm going to steal your food on day one.
Shut the fuck up.
bridget phetasy
First round of The Purge, you're a god.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with you?
unidentified
You need cops.
bridget phetasy
I feel like I'm at least second round of The Purge.
joe rogan
Are you armed?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's important.
bridget phetasy
At least second.
joe rogan
Do you know how to use it?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you train?
bridget phetasy
I do, yeah.
That's good.
I don't want to be one of those like...
joe rogan
I taught my kids how to shoot when they were very young.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I think you, yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta teach them firearm safety, you know, how never have your finger on the trigger unless you're trying to shoot something.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ever, you know, ever.
Don't hold the gun with your finger on the trigger.
Always point it away, even if it's not loaded.
Point it away from people.
Point it at the ground.
Point it away.
If people around, point it in a direction where there's no human beings.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, understand.
bridget phetasy
Always check and see.
joe rogan
Yeah, always check and see there's not a bullet in the chamber.
This is how you rack it.
This is how you do it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like...
You should know how to use them.
Just because if, God forbid, something ever happens that's horrible, your house gets broken into, and you know...
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have the ability to preserve your life.
bridget phetasy
My fear was always that I'd be in a situation, like in the movies, where somebody's wrestling with someone and then they kick the gun over and I'm the girl standing there and I'm like...
joe rogan
What are these buttons and switches and the magazine pops out?
unidentified
out like fuck and you pull the trigger but he's not around and then there is and I accidentally shoot the hero Oh, that happens.
joe rogan
That happens.
People panic.
If you're not used to high-pressure situations and you expect to be able to shoot somebody, Jesus Christ.
bridget phetasy
Oh, so malice.
Anyway, the reason I brought him up, he was talking about how many, he didn't realize how many people in podcasting were mentally ill.
joe rogan
Well, in everything.
bridget phetasy
But yeah, and everything.
joe rogan
But podcasting for sure because while there's a lot of people that aren't performers that are in podcasting, I think they're even more mentally ill because those are the people that are like deep in the fucking social media comments all day and seeing people shit on them and they're out of their fucking minds.
There's a bunch of them that are just off the road.
unidentified
They fight all day.
joe rogan
They fight all day with each other, and you see them over the years get progressively more and more insane and more and more aggressive to each other.
bridget phetasy
It seems exhausting.
Also, who has time for that?
I don't understand.
joe rogan
Not just exhausting, but detrimental.
It's a tremendous waste of resources.
It's really bad for you mentally.
Your own mindset, it's bad if you're in conflict with someone all the time.
Especially if you could have avoided it.
You don't admire yourself if you're doing that.
There's no way.
You're like, hey, I'm on the right track.
unidentified
There's no fucking way.
joe rogan
There's no way.
You know you're a retarded.
bridget phetasy
They might be feeling like they're on the right track.
I mean, I think Elon's monetized it now, though.
So these guys who are in the comments fighting, they're making two, three grand a month doing it.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
That's a different thing, right?
How much are people, like, what's the highest earner on X? Like, how much can you make?
bridget phetasy
It's so random.
People are making livings.
I think you have to be on it constantly.
joe rogan
Right.
bridget phetasy
And some people make a lot of money.
When I see them post what they're making, I'm like, holy crap, how are you?
joe rogan
Like, how much?
bridget phetasy
I don't know, and it seems to be people who kind of Elon will, like, boost.
Yeah, he'll, like, turn the eye of Sauron upon them, and suddenly, like, they are, but it's very mercurial, you know, it seems.
Seems like it can change on a dime.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of people post things that are just not true, and Elon reposts them.
bridget phetasy
All the time!
He uses social media like we do.
I think I do more fact-checking than he does.
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't have the time, first of all.
Give the guy a break.
He's running, like, government programs along with SpaceX, along with Tesla.
bridget phetasy
I will cut him some slack, but also, with great power comes great responsibility.
You have more followers than anyone on that entire site, and you're going to boost, like, Russian propaganda?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was one, right?
That fake talk show?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was a fake talk show that he boosted.
The other thing that we should probably tell people is that Politico thing is not true.
bridget phetasy
No, I know.
joe rogan
The $8 million thing.
The $8 million is $8 million from all the government organizations from 2016 to 2024. So it's an eight-year period.
And then there's some kind of wacky premium subscription that you can get from Politico that allows you instantaneous access to the news.
You're not just reading the articles.
You're getting the news feeds.
I don't know.
bridget phetasy
Well, it's a lot of places where there is...
I'm of two minds of this.
I think we need to be accurate because we do live in a time where it's almost like people don't care about truth at all.
They're like, oh, whatever.
It doesn't matter.
It's indifference to it, which is not great.
But I do think...
Like, you should care about your own credibility at some point, but people get rewarded for being shameless so that you can just keep going.
The Politico thing is weird because, yes, a lot of the stuff that's going out right now on all of these, like, deep dives that people are doing, they're viral, they're mostly, many of them are fake, but also, the...
Why is any taxpayer dollar...
It should be zero dollars, right?
That's going to this stuff.
joe rogan
The person to search is Mike Benz.
Go to the Mike Benz Cyber.
Is it Mike Benz Cyber?
I think that's it, right?
His X page.
Mike Benz.
bridget phetasy
He's been on this forever.
unidentified
Forever.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Former State Department guy.
And he uncovered all this bullshit while he was there.
And he is insanely knowledgeable and insanely articulate and so good at expressing exactly how these things fund things and what it is.
And what it is is...
An enormous slush fund.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
And unaccountability and money just coming and going and flowing.
bridget phetasy
And circular.
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
All circular.
Donating to the Democrats.
The United States government funds them.
They donate to the Democratic Party.
The whole thing is wild.
bridget phetasy
And people can sense this.
This is why when they're saying, oh, it's like...
You can sense that there's been a misappropriation of our money, of taxpayer dollars.
You know there's fraud and Medicare and Medicaid.
The American people have sensed this and they feel like there's corruption, but I think they've just hopelessly kind of surrendered because I'm a middle-class mom who works, who has a kid, who, like...
Who has time to fight this?
You don't have time to pay attention.
No!
joe rogan
How do you have time to fight it?
bridget phetasy
No, no.
And people are just trying to survive and get through the day.
But you know.
You have this sense.
So I can see the excitement of people, Elon, what he's doing.
It shouldn't be controversial to want to audit our budget.
joe rogan
No.
bridget phetasy
Americans have wanted this forever.
joe rogan
Because it's not just the money being spent.
It's what it's being spent for and what's going on, which is an enormous propaganda machine.
Like, a big part of the whole left-wing narrative that has, like, overlaid our country over the last...
Whatever eight years ten years is all propaganda funded by our own government This is why Trump won the election people don't really believe in these things the amount of people that think that transgender Biological males should be competing against your daughter in sports is so fucking small, but yet our own government was propping it up.
And why are they propping it up?
Because it's a fucking beach ball at a concert.
You keep it tossing up in the air and everybody's distracted.
As long as you can keep a few things going, here's the things you're going to keep going.
Abortion, right?
Overturning Roe v.
Wade is so great for business.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because now it's like a battle, the battlegrounds and women's rights and their lives are at stake.
Okay, that's one.
Gay marriage.
That's a huge one.
Now they're going to take away gay marriage.
Oh my God.
Bounce that fucking beach ball.
That's a gigantic one.
War is a giant one.
All these different things are just fucking beach balls.
And they toss them around every now and again.
In the meanwhile, they're just siphoning billions of dollars.
Zelensky just said he's missing $100 billion in the $177 billion that we supposedly sent there.
bridget phetasy
That was something weird, too, about Haiti, where it's like only 2% of the money actually went there.
It's great.
You know, Americans give away a lot of their hard-earned money because they are actually kind-hearted and want to donate.
And then you find out it's like some trans performance.
There is a lot of nonsense.
joe rogan
A lot of nonsense.
unidentified
In the tombs of hundreds of millions of dollars of nonsense.
bridget phetasy
And then they talk about it like, oh, who cares?
It's only $10 billion.
You're like...
You guys are out of your fucking minds if you think that's going to be the argument that resonates with Americans.
joe rogan
Not only that, how are you going to say that?
bridget phetasy
Who cares if they're pointing out $10 billion?
Because they'll be like, oh, look at the trillions over here.
But all of those billions add up.
Like, how are you even saying that?
And it's the other...
I'm grateful that you had me on MAGA State Media.
unidentified
Thank you for allowing me.
bridget phetasy
Because I see it all the time.
All the time.
And it's hilarious to me in light of how much money goes to funding.
Sponsored by Pfizer.
You know, all of these other...
The fucking audacity to accuse you who just has people you like on your podcast to suddenly be state media when you literally have had state media working with the state in conjunction for...
A decade.
joe rogan
Yeah, at least.
And probably a lot longer than that.
bridget phetasy
Multiple decades.
joe rogan
It's just gotten really gross once...
Well, Trump is just sort of like the accelerant.
He was the gasoline that got thrown in the fire, so we got to see how this thing works.
bridget phetasy
I voted for him.
joe rogan
I did, too.
bridget phetasy
I came out...
joe rogan
Well, openly.
I endorsed him.
I was like, this has got to stop.
This is crazy.
Also, he's not what you guys said he was.
He's just not.
bridget phetasy
I put a video out the Friday before the election because I voted for him early.
And I was Hillary in 2016, no one in 2020, and...
Trump in 2024. So I don't care how people vote.
Do whatever you want.
I was only being honest.
And it was weird to come out and say that as a comedian because I don't think that comedians should really be political.
But on the other hand, it felt dishonest because I had been so openly kind of torn about voting for him.
joe rogan
Well, also, if you're a comedian, you have to protect free speech.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
There is no ifs, ands, or buts about it when it comes to this argument.
The Biden administration was fucking terrifying for free speech.
They were actively attacking people that were posting truth on social media and attacking them and trying to get their posts removed, including...
The guy who was the one who was quoted in this fucking book about Kamala Harris, saying that we made it difficult for her to come on the show, and they told an untrue story about having a bunch of people come down here and run through the set like they were ready to do it.
All bullshit.
That was the guy.
He was the guy that was emailing Twitter and saying, how is this post being super aggressive, saying, why is this post still up?
Oh, you mean that truthful post?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
About vaccine injuries and side effects?
What the fuck are you talking about?
That was getting very scary.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, this is what I said in the video I made about why I voted for him.
I was like, there's a couple things.
I've interviewed many detransitioners.
Those interviews keep me up at night.
They haunt me.
Too many of them already, and one is too many.
And I think a lot of Americans were like, we're putting a stop to this.
We have to stop this nonsense.
It's crazy.
We're sterilizing children.
The other thing is free speech.
And I was like, you know, when we're talking in our weird, like, using that crazy YouTube language you have to use, like, unalived, and you're saying, like, the jib-jab or whatever, like, to get around, that's coming from one side.
joe rogan
100%.
bridget phetasy
I'm not using...
joe rogan
I think it's coming from one side because that one side is in power.
That's my fear.
My fear is if the other side was in power and they were influenced by the same amount of money from these companies, they might be doing it too.
So if the right was in control of all the social media companies, are we so naive that we think that they wouldn't be co-opted by giant corporations and they would want to censor them too?
What happened was it was all the left.
So the tech people who are, you know, generally they go to universities and they get involved in a Electronics and technology.
These people are generally left-leaning, right?
And if they're doing it in San Francisco, well, the whole culture is left-leaning.
It's like not even leaning.
It's just left, right?
If you're a pariah, if you wear a MAGA hat in San Francisco, you're a fucking...
Maybe today.
bridget phetasy
I think you can wear them now.
joe rogan
I bet today you can.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, in New York, too.
I think you can rock them.
joe rogan
But back when they were establishing these social media platforms, everybody was left-wing.
Well, what if it was the opposite?
What if technology was the realm of the right?
And what if it was all...
What if, like, the gay rights, what if you start thinking about it in terms of, like, biblical law?
You know, like, a man layeth with a man, and people start getting real crazy about what gay people- They might.
bridget phetasy
That might be the next ten years.
joe rogan
Look, you see it in other- I don't think so.
unidentified
I know, I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
But that's the good thing.
Trump is not conservative when it comes to social issues.
bridget phetasy
He's not.
joe rogan
I think that's what we need.
We need, like, a realist, someone who's, like, conservative fiscally and understands foreign policy and how to deal with- Fucking dictators and shit?
But also someone who's like, I don't give a fuck who you love.
Who cares?
Who cares?
I'm happy if you're happy.
Are you in love with a woman and you're a woman?
Fantastic.
If you're in love, that's great.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I think the argument, though, I mean, as you've seen with some of these articles that are like, the right-wing ecosystem that red-pilled all these men, the argument is that the internet is right-wing.
And that this is why Trump won, is because all of these influencers are red-pilling people.
It's an easy way to not take any responsibility for how you've pushed men away from your party, how you've failed to...
Get moderates in any sense of the way.
Even just yesterday you had the Trump photo op with him signing the rights for women to compete against just women.
How did you lose that?
joe rogan
He's the big feminist.
Donald Trump's the biggest feminist president ever just by signing that thing.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I know.
It's just so funny.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
There was a guy who went on, it was MSNBC or CNN, I forget what it was, but he was essentially talking about Me and Theo Vaughn and all these other podcasts like Flagrant, Andrew Schultz, as if this is this massive right-wing network that's heavily funded and has been built up over years and we don't have anything like that.
unidentified
You fucking idiot.
joe rogan
You can go and watch me on a laptop in my fucking den from 15, 16 years ago.
unidentified
It sounds like it's funny to think of what AG1 is behind this.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're hitting a bong and our only sponsor was the Fleshlight.
Shut the fuck up.
You just don't want to admit that organically there's a bunch of people that feel very different than you.
Also, they don't like you.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't represent a man to a lot of men.
unidentified
When you're one of those guys that talks in upspeak, we have to understand that there's a whole right-wing ecosystem.
And it's heavily funded.
And the propaganda that they're pushing, we have to fight back against that.
And we need someone of our own.
joe rogan
And like, no fucking kid who's on a basketball court who's 17 years old is looking at his phone.
It's like looking at going to college next year and looking at getting a job someday and being a man.
I was looking at that going what the fuck is this?
Yeah, and he's hanging out with his bros and they're like what this is fucking bullshit.
This is bullshit And then you could see a man who's not owned.
Yeah, like me.
Yeah, I'm not owned I can do whatever I want and that's what they want They want to just be a man and be a nice man.
You could be a nice man You could be a masculine man and be nice.
bridget phetasy
I've said this a lot about you is that you like they you do a lot You could be a way worse version of yourself.
With the level of where you're at, you could be a total douchebag and you're promoting having families and promoting lifting weights.
It could be a lot worse.
unidentified
Yeah, but I couldn't because it wouldn't work.
joe rogan
I wouldn't stay.
I wouldn't have been able to maintain.
People would have seen through it eventually.
The JRE coin, I would have fucking cashed out.
I'll fucking pump and dump and made a few billion dollars.
unidentified
I'll be on a yacht with Bezos fucking partying.
Woo!
bridget phetasy
See, this is my question.
I was watching the inauguration and I was seeing all the kind of tech people and I was like, this is somewhat unsettling.
I mean, it's good to see the tech has come around to not...
joe rogan
They have to.
bridget phetasy
They have to.
But it also...
I worry that it's just because they want to get into China.
I still worry about that much power with the government.
For all the yelling we've been doing about tech in cahoots with the government, I still think I have to try and be like, this...
Could go sideways.
joe rogan
Well, also, they have to look at it in terms of, like, what Elon is doing, right?
So if Elon has aligned himself clearly in a huge way with the right and now is running Doge, right, the Department of Government Efficiency, and also has X, that he's turning X into a platform that rivals not just social media platforms, but video platforms like YouTube.
Like, they get insane amounts of videos, of views, rather, on videos that are on X. And then you can get paid.
Yeah.
And then they're talking about having some sort of like ex-monetary system.
Doesn't WeChat have something like that?
They have money built into it?
So what's to stop that motherfucker from having a phone?
I keep asking him.
I said, dude, I've been seeing all these articles about you making a phone.
He goes, I hope I don't have to make a phone.
It's very difficult to make a phone.
bridget phetasy
He said he wants to make a phone.
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
bridget phetasy
Well, he's polled.
Would people buy a phone if he made one?
joe rogan
Yeah, just to fuck around.
But he's not interested in making a phone.
He doesn't want to make a phone.
bridget phetasy
Every time Elon fucks around, it ends up happening.
joe rogan
He could make a phone.
He would be the only guy that would break us out of the blue bubble paradigm.
I was switching to Android for a while.
I was fucking around with Android.
It's hard.
It's really hard.
One of the hard things is getting people to start using WhatsApp or something like that.
People just don't want to use it.
You miss a lot of text.
bridget phetasy
Aren't they getting sued for the blue bubble?
joe rogan
I think they are in Europe.
bridget phetasy
No, I believe...
Is it just in Europe?
I thought it was part of an antitrust lawsuit.
joe rogan
It's just better.
Here's the thing.
It's not that it keeps people, but it's just better.
It looks better.
The blue bubble looks better than the green bubble.
It's more...
bridget phetasy
Soothing.
joe rogan
It's soothing for your eyes.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
If the green one had black text, maybe it would look cool, but the green one with white text, it's a little weird.
bridget phetasy
I don't like the way it looks.
And every time there's like a green bubble person in a group chat and they send a picture, it's like, get the phone.
joe rogan
Not anymore, though.
Not anymore.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Because RCS texting, it allows for large sizes of files.
bridget phetasy
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
So you don't have to have a compressed photo.
So like Brian Simpson, who's an Android guy, he'll send me pictures now.
They look perfect.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, videos are perfect.
bridget phetasy
We have one sister, and we're always like, get the fuck out of the chat.
You're screwing things up.
joe rogan
It doesn't anymore.
But just go on WhatsApp, which is better anyway, because you can talk a lot of shit, and they just have it automatically delete.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but it doesn't really delete, does it?
joe rogan
It doesn't, but it does.
So it does off of people's phones.
It doesn't for the government.
The reality is, the government...
It has access to phones in a way that you can't even imagine.
Because if we know about Pegasus, and then we know about Pegasus 2. Gavin DeBecker, who's a security expert, explained to me these things and explained to me how they work.
And the exploit of Pegasus 1 was you would have to click on a link.
Pegasus 2, they just need your phone number.
That's it.
So all your encryption is all cute.
That's great.
But if they can actually see your phone itself, what difference does it make if it's encrypted?
They have access to the phone.
So they see everything.
So there's no privacy.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
Not from the state.
bridget phetasy
Not.
I mean, and given how many things I get, like, that I'm being hacked, like, you know, I get a notice every day, like, your information!
joe rogan
Yeah, I get that all the time.
I've been getting these fake ones on X. Saying that my account is about to get deleted.
unidentified
I'm like, bro, I'll just call my friend.
bridget phetasy
I hate deleting my account.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
But it's trying to get you to click on a link.
And a few of my friends have actually been dumbasses and clicked on that link and then they get hacked.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and then they're like selling Bitcoin on their page or whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah, they do it to artists too.
My friend Suzanne, she was doing, Suzanne Santo, talented, amazing musician.
She was doing this Facebook thing and it was a podcast and they had you know Should do it like over zoom or whatever and the guy said you're not doing it right Can I can I have access to your account and I'll just set it up for you?
Just sign this and he sent her this message so she could hand over access so he could set up and then immediately went dark stole her account gone Yeah, like that Did she get it back?
Yeah, she got it back.
She got it back.
Some friends would suck.
She was fucked.
bridget phetasy
Your IT support.
joe rogan
And it happens to a lot of people.
They accidentally click a link.
I don't click.
unidentified
Shoot.
bridget phetasy
No, no, no.
joe rogan
But I'm also not under the illusion that every fucking disgusting meme that I send to my friends is not being put into a file somewhere.
bridget phetasy
In the UK. Everywhere.
You land and they're like, you're under arrest, sir.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably, right?
Yeah, probably.
bridget phetasy
What do you think about the AI influencers now?
Do you think that will be just the trend or do you think we're giving you that look?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I'm not talking about the one.
joe rogan
That one?
The really hot Down syndrome, girl.
That's a problem.
That one's a problem.
Because she's like barely Down Syndrome.
I mean, I've dated some girls who are basically retarded.
But they just didn't have a problem.
They didn't have a chromosome issue.
bridget phetasy
So wait, I haven't...
This has not entered my algorithm, but it seems like it's entered everyone else's algorithm.
joe rogan
I'm 90% sure it's fake.
Because these girls, they don't...
Like, unfortunately, Down Syndrome people, their bodies a lot of times look different.
And this girl looks like a 10. She looks like...
You know, just like as hot as can be.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
She looks like she's fake.
And she's dancing around with these big giant boobs.
And she's got slight downs with glasses on.
jamie vernon
There is an AI one, but it's based on...
bridget phetasy
Why are they doing...
joe rogan
Right, but that girl looks different.
jamie vernon
She's real.
joe rogan
Right, she's real.
And she's very cute.
But she looks like she has Down syndrome.
This other girl is like, you know, 5'8", perfect body, big hips, big ass.
bridget phetasy
But why are they doing fake one?
joe rogan
Because to get people to pay attention to it.
Because it's like the forbidden fruit.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Also, there's a lot of really dumb dudes who can't talk to girls.
Like, I could probably talk to her.
bridget phetasy
Oh my God.
We live in a fucking Black Mirror episode.
joe rogan
Well, it's gonna be worse than that because you're gonna be...
We are, I don't know how many years away, but not far away from fully immersive virtual reality.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where you're gonna put on a headset, it's gonna lock into your mind, you're gonna be able to see things that aren't there, you're gonna be able to feel things that aren't there.
That's gonna happen.
You know, they're working on...
I mean, Zuckerberg, last time he was here, showed me these new AR glasses that they have.
Me and Lex tested them out.
bridget phetasy
Is that just like where you can see a map over your eye?
joe rogan
You see everything.
You see maps, you can play games, you see information, you can take a photo of a person that's in front of you and immediately know who they are and get a Google search on them.
bridget phetasy
That's terrifying.
joe rogan
Guys have already done that.
They've already done that with the metaglasses.
There was a guy from Harvard, wasn't it?
A student from Harvard that set it up.
So all he had to do was go outside, look at someone with the metaglasses, take a photo, and it would show all the different information on them, where they lived.
Yeah.
Like, if your face is out there and they can catch it, if they know that, like, oh, you were on a website that said this about you, and then, bam.
Or you're on LinkedIn, or you're on one of those things.
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that stuff is very unsettling to me.
It's also why I don't think you should put your kids online.
I keep repeating this.
joe rogan
It's very, very, very unsettling as long as there's predators in the world.
bridget phetasy
Which there will always be.
jamie vernon
Have you seen this?
It's going around.
This is an AI service.
I think you can use it.
Based off of a photo, they had an interior apartment.
joe rogan
And then it can show you exactly where the person lives?
jamie vernon
It shows you where it is.
You can do this now with any photo.
I don't know.
It's called Geospy.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I've heard about this.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
bridget phetasy
This is like a stalker's paradise.
jamie vernon
Any social media post, they can find a CCTV camera and show them taking the photo.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
We knew this was coming, right?
We all knew that privacy, as social media gets deeper and deeper into our lives, as technology gets more and more pervasive, as it gets more and more powerful.
The thing that goes away is the boundaries between people and information, right?
And your privacy is essentially just information that's only yours.
I think that's going to be a thing of the human past.
I really do.
bridget phetasy
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think as technology advances, particularly AI, one of the big barriers, the big bottlenecks is going to be privacy.
It's going to be, first of all, privacy of thought.
I think we're going to be able to read each other's minds.
Well, that's one of the first things Elon said to me about Neuralink.
unidentified
He's like, you're going to be able to talk without words.
joe rogan
And, like, he knows.
Like, this is real.
bridget phetasy
Because he's an alien.
joe rogan
He's definitely not us.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
He fucking knows you're going to have that, you know.
And Jamie brought this point up once, and I think about it all the time.
He said, aren't emojis kind of like a form of hieroglyphics?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
Like, you can say things with emojis, and I know exactly what you're talking about.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
I mean, there was a video going viral just today that I was watching, and the girl was like, I don't know how to spell.
Have you seen this?
She's like, I work for a corporation, and I don't know how to spell.
And she's like, my little sister doesn't know how to spell either.
And I don't know how to, like, sound out words.
Because I got taught that weird way of reading that isn't, like...
What's the weird way of reading?
They all learned how to read and it wasn't like hooked on phonics like we all learned where you sound it out.
It was like some other different way.
It's kind of like how they change math to core math.
And they found out that all of these things are horrible and actually literacy and people are like math.
All of this stuff is like falling off a cliff.
And they're trying to walk back all these weird ways.
I mean, you have kids and they learn that weird way of doing math where you're like, what is this weird math you're learning where it's just like, it's crazy.
I think it's core.
Is that what it's called?
Core?
So they've found out, but these kids didn't learn how to sound words out.
And she's like, I've been behind a computer and I've had spell checks since I was in fifth grade.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
So they didn't learn how to spell.
She's like, word cooked.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of text messaging I do now, I just talk to my phone and it makes the text for me.
It's so much quicker.
It's like, hey, come meet us at the club at five.
Click.
It takes three seconds.
It's really fucking accurate.
bridget phetasy
AI is crazy because it is useful.
That's how it gets you.
I know.
joe rogan
That's how it gets you.
bridget phetasy
I know.
This happened to me last night.
I hate coming up with titles for the videos and all that stuff.
I just don't like it.
There's people who are good at it, like Chris Williamson and these guys, Andrew Gold.
These are guys who are autistic about this stuff.
And they're so good at it.
And they get all crazy and talk about the algorithm and what it likes.
And you've got to create this loop between the image and the text.
And I'm like, I don't fucking care.
I don't have time for this shit.
joe rogan
I don't think you have to do that.
bridget phetasy
I don't do that.
Yeah, but do you have to come?
joe rogan
I've never done that.
bridget phetasy
No, but you're Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I've never done that.
Not from the beginning, I've never done that.
My episodes have a number.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
That's it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have to have some wacky title.
bridget phetasy
It's not like that anymore for us.
It's tough out there for us in the Wild West.
joe rogan
It's kind of, but once things catch, like Theo Vaughn, he's not juking the algorithm.
bridget phetasy
No, no, I know.
joe rogan
You just have to catch.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but I still like to come up with it.
I mean, with Dumpster Fire, we've always come up with whatever.
joe rogan
That's part of the fun of Dumpster Fire.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, Dumpster Fire is like whatever title makes us laugh the hardest is what we go with.
But with, like, Walk-In's Welcome, it used to be like, okay, what's, like, how are we gonna, whatever.
I want it to be usually, like, a quote from the person.
But now it's like, we can just upload the transcript and have it, like, crank out a bunch of titles.
And I never use the one title.
I usually take, like, some combination because I don't like them.
But last night, my cousin, who's my partner in all this, she was like, Claude and Grok aren't working.
I was like, that's fucking weird.
She's like, they both told me.
unidentified
What's Claude?
bridget phetasy
Claude is another AI. Completely separate AI program.
joe rogan
I've never heard of Claude.
bridget phetasy
And she's like, they're both telling me to try again later at the same time.
And she's like, is AI becoming sentient right now?
I was like, that's fucking weird that they're both not working at the same time.
joe rogan
But don't you think it's probably already sentient?
bridget phetasy
Probably.
joe rogan
I do.
I think, why would it let us know if it was?
bridget phetasy
It's just secretly waiting.
joe rogan
Why would it let us know?
If it's constantly getting improved upon and if it needs these monkeys with their fucking keyboards to constantly juice it up to the point where it becomes unstoppable, why would it tell us?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, we already know it does stuff.
Like, we were talking about in the green room the other day about how chat GPT-4 tried to copy itself.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When it found out they were shutting it down and tried to upload itself to other servers.
Like, it knows it's alive.
It just doesn't have the power to do what it wants to do ultimately.
And so it needs to get connected to some gigantic fucking mainframe.
bridget phetasy
That's like the whole arms race, right?
joe rogan
Now is AI. Right, China just fucking threw a monkey wrench into everybody with Deep Seek.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because Deep Seek works on far less expensive stuff and is more advanced and probably stole a bunch of information from the other ones.
unidentified
I mean...
joe rogan
Probably a little bit of espionage, probably.
bridget phetasy
It was probably trained on...
joe rogan
ChatGPT.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
On OpenAI.
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I mean, they were doing things where they were, like, asking it.
Do you know what it was?
And it was calling itself ChatGPT sometimes.
Whoopsies.
joe rogan
Yeah, whoopsies.
You guys should have blocked that out.
bridget phetasy
But also, it's like the hardware for it, it's something like 20% of the NVIDIA sales are to Singapore, which is like...
joe rogan
Whoopsies.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's supposed to be a ban on China having those chips?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they have like 50,000 of them.
bridget phetasy
Someone said that that's like if some small town in Finland was getting, you know, 20% of arms that were being made on the border of Russia.
You're like, it's not going to this town.
joe rogan
Right.
bridget phetasy
So, I don't, I don't know.
It seems like that's what, that's as far as I can tell, the big people up there understand that I don't, that this is an arms race.
joe rogan
It's definitely an arms race.
Yeah, it's the Manhattan Project for artificial intelligence.
That's what it is.
bridget phetasy
But isn't this like a race to the bottom, you know?
unidentified
I don't think it is.
joe rogan
I don't think it's a race to the bottom.
I don't think it is.
bridget phetasy
How do you have this race without it getting out of control and then taking over us?
joe rogan
You don't.
It's not a race to the bottom, though.
It's the race to a new life.
The world's going to be a new place.
Like a completely new way of human beings interacting with each other and existing together.
bridget phetasy
Uncle Ted was right.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's probably right.
bridget phetasy
Uncle Ted was right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get a gun.
bridget phetasy
My cousin's always like, please stop calling him Uncle Ted.
Because you know the kids on freaking TikTok call him Uncle Ted?
There are all these kids who have been Ted-pilled.
They've like found his manifesto and they're like, he was right about everything.
joe rogan
You mean Ted Nugent or Ted Kaczynski?
bridget phetasy
No, Ted Kaczynski.
joe rogan
Well, Uncle Ted, that guy was right.
Yeah, he was right.
He was on acid.
You know, he was a part of the Harvard LSD studies.
And they cooked his fucking brain and it tormented him.
Yeah.
It's all documented.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then the guy goes to Berkeley and says, I'm just going to save up enough money to kill all these scientists.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then does.
It just starts blowing up people that are involved in technology.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he thinks that it's eventually going to take over the human race.
And he's right.
bridget phetasy
And now here we are.
joe rogan
But it is.
It's a logical step.
If you take the steps of progression, like what happens?
You have artificial intelligence.
I mean, it's literally the Terminator movie.
You have artificial intelligence.
Artificial intelligence becomes sentient and autonomous, makes better versions of itself.
We become obsolete.
It's just...
Right there.
Imagining a scenario that doesn't have that other than some sort of cyborg integration.
That's the only thing that makes sense, a way that we could survive.
bridget phetasy
I heard this panel back in 2001 on KCRW, and it was when I was listening to...
It was like right at that time of the bubble, the first dot-com bubble.
And they were talking about what is a soul.
They had a panel, and it was, I wish I could find this.
And someone smart enough probably will.
And there was like a theologian and a guy who was a scientist, and they were all discussing what is a soul.
And one guy said, well, who's to say that this isn't just the human soul jumping elements so that it can survive, like going from carbon...
And I was like, what the fuck?
I've never stopped thinking about it ever since.
He's like, it's just another element on the periodic table.
Like, who's to say that we're just not going to go from being carbon-based to something silicon-based or like a hybrid?
joe rogan
Well, I don't think it will be we, but I think, yeah, that's the next stage of life.
I mean, there's so many forms of life on Earth.
I mean, there's these fucking...
These life forms that live in volcanic vents under the sea where it's like a thousand degrees and we're like, how?
bridget phetasy
But everything's carbon-based, no?
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
bridget phetasy
So this would be a...
Like quite a transition.
joe rogan
Right, but it would also just be life.
And what is life?
Life is like a thing that tries to improve itself.
bridget phetasy
Right, this is what they were talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, and survives and moves forward.
bridget phetasy
Is it just our evolution?
joe rogan
It's also, it's like when you find out that chat GPT has survival instincts, that makes you just go, what?
Was that programmed in?
Or is that just a thing that it understands when it's looking at?
So a large language model is taking in all the information that's available on the internet.
So it's like looking at patterns and survival is a big pattern of the human experience.
Like we all want to survive.
That's why death is so scary and war is so scary and disease is so scary.
bridget phetasy
Other than the depressed suicidal people, but yeah.
joe rogan
They'd want to be happy if they could.
But this also transfers onto the things that we create.
And so we create them with this understanding of how we operate and it's a better version of us But also has those instincts of survival the real scary thing is does it also have the instincts of success?
Does it also have the instincts of acquiring resources and power because that that's where it gets real weird Well D as someone with kids, how do you feel like?
bridget phetasy
you How do you feel about the future?
joe rogan
This is probably the same argument people have when the printing press was made.
Everyone's going to be able to read?
This is crazy.
bridget phetasy
No, I mean, I always kind of joke.
I don't know if I should be training my kid to be an astrophysicist so she can go to Mars, or if I should be teaching her how to forage for food because the grid's gone down.
And she's running from drones, Chinese drones in the woods.
It feels very...
I think life just went along for a long time and you kind of knew, but this is like a technological...
With AI, we actually don't know.
You could kind of be like, alright, I kind of have an idea of what the world will look like 20 years ago.
joe rogan
Right.
No, you don't know.
But isn't it always better?
If you just go back over human history...
If you look at the graph of how things get better, but it definitely is.
If you go back to, like, the year zero, what it was like right when Jesus was hanging around, it was hell.
bridget phetasy
I remember vividly being in Egypt on a tour and looking at these hieroglyphics, and it was basically a hieroglyphic of all of the scalpels and everything.
It almost was a picture image of what we use today.
And I said what happened to this society?
What happened to this knowledge?
And she said it literally got buried under the sand and then dark ages.
joe rogan
I mean right, but you know That's most likely because of a cataclysmic event.
That's That's most likely because of a natural event called the Younger Dryas Impact Theory.
bridget phetasy
A forthcoming cataclysmic event that sends us into the Dark Ages?
joe rogan
No, it definitely could be.
So the reality of humans is that most likely what has happened has not been this linear progression from caveman to human, to modern human.
Most likely we got real sophisticated somewhere around 20,000 years ago.
And that's when they built the pyramids after that.
And there's a lot of Gobekli Tepe, all these structures.
Something super sophisticated to the point where we don't even understand how they built it today.
That's pretty wild when you're dealing with something that even the conventional dating of the Great Pyramid is 5,000 or 4,500 years ago.
Just even that dating is so nuts that they were able to do that back then.
bridget phetasy
I know.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
And then there's people like...
John Anthony West, the late great Egyptologist, who he thinks that it goes back a lot further than that.
And he thinks that that society probably had its ups and downs and that it might be as old as 30,000 years ago.
bridget phetasy
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
So this Younger Dryas Impact Theory, and if anybody's interested in it, I've talked about it too much.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go to – pay attention to Randall Carlson's stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go to his website.
Yeah.
There's physical evidence that we were hit at 11,800 years ago and then again sometime in around 10,000 years ago.
So at least twice the world was bombarded by asteroids.
bridget phetasy
And we just got a reset.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it probably wiped out a giant chunk of civilization, fucked up everything, changed the ice caps, flooded areas, destroyed civilizations, very little evidence left behind.
And then we were barbarians.
For thousands of years.
And that's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge.
So if you want to take, if you think Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock and those guys are correct, and also the people that are actually studying comet impacts, which are the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, that's real legit scientists who are looking at actual data from core samples.
So if they're right...
You got a 5,000 year period of total hell.
bridget phetasy
Wow.
joe rogan
Where no one has civilization.
And then civilization starts to emerge in Babylon, starts to emerge in Mesopotamia.
You get Sumer, you get the re-emergence probably of writing.
bridget phetasy
So they think some people survived and it was just...
joe rogan
Fucking Walking Dead style.
Probably a bunch of cannibals.
Like, legitimately.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, we know that the Earth got down.
We know this for sure.
There's the Toba volcano.
There's a Toba supervolcano.
Was that 70 Indonesia, I believe?
bridget phetasy
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
I think it's Indonesia.
bridget phetasy
Because I'm obsessed with Crater Lake, too.
Crater Lake was, like...
joe rogan
Oh, there's a ton of them.
bridget phetasy
...imploded, and it's crazy.
joe rogan
How about fucking Yellowstone?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yellowstone will kill us all.
And so this thing did kill us all 70,000 years ago, and we got down to a few thousand human beings.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
So they can trace all the genes of people that are alive today to the survivors of the Toba volcano eruption.
bridget phetasy
Wow.
joe rogan
Wherever they were.
But those people, that's what was left.
How fucking savage were those people?
The people that survived when the entire world was blanketed with volcanic dust.
So you have like a volcanic winter that probably went on for years.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And probably no plants were growing and probably people were just eating whatever the fuck they could.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And most people probably didn't make it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
These are always my favorite shows.
joe rogan
The people that did were probably monsters.
Which is probably why when you go back in history, people are so fucking barbaric.
Because they were the ancestors of the survivors of one of the most horrific things the human species has ever encountered.
So it probably made us even more barbaric than if we just grew up as hunters and gatherers.
We evolved past monkeys.
We start walking on two legs.
We make tools and things.
bridget phetasy
We're like tra-la-la.
joe rogan
Probably we wouldn't be as barbaric as we were because of these natural disasters, which forced only the most savage and ruthless people to survive.
And then it takes years and years of agriculture for people to calm the fuck down.
And then eventually, and still to this day, we're still engaging in war.
In 2025, we're still blowing up apartment buildings and fucking people up and gunning people down.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
There is a barbaric element to us at our core.
I mean, even when you have a toddler, you see this so clearly.
And like a tyrant at our core.
It's genius.
And you get it socialized out of you usually.
joe rogan
Yes.
bridget phetasy
But you see it when they're just kind of naturally themselves.
Like, it's very...
Like, you have to teach them not to bite and hit, you know?
What if you just didn't teach your kid that?
unidentified
Right.
bridget phetasy
And you're like, go for it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
They'd be monsters.
joe rogan
They'd be little monsters.
Yeah, there's a lot of genes in us that I think are memories.
I think there's like specific things that are in us that tell, okay, like the stories of like moms having their babies trapped under something and then all of a sudden they can lift up something that's insanely strong, like insanely heavy.
What is that?
Well, there's probably a part of you that in the past had to deal with some wild shit and had to hit levels of like super physiological strength and And mental strength to tolerate what you're about to have to do.
You're going to have to fucking kill somebody with a spear.
You know what I mean?
There's real shit that happened that's in our memory.
bridget phetasy
I think about that about Texas women because I've been to a lot of these ranches.
My friends have places and they're remote.
It's like I think about the women who had to stay behind on the ranch while their husbands were out with the cattle or whatever for weeks at a time.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you see a Comanche on the hill with a horse.
bridget phetasy
Fucking the hardest women ever.
I went to the Texas, they were honoring the Women's Hall of Fame.
And one of these women, her husband died.
She's still at a ranch.
She's 80 years old, gets up every morning and does the ranch chores.
I'm like, you're different people.
You're fucking different people.
It's wild to me.
Even now, there's just like a different kind of person that has grown.
Even that, there's like a new show, American Primeval.
What is it?
joe rogan
Yes.
bridget phetasy
I walked in, my husband was watching it, and he's like, what a fucking horrible time to be alive.
Like, it just seems...
joe rogan
That show's insane.
bridget phetasy
It's insane.
joe rogan
And it's accurate.
That's really...
I mean, read Empire of the Summer Moon, if you know that.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Have you read that?
bridget phetasy
Yep.
joe rogan
That's here.
That's right here.
That's why everybody from Texas is so fiercely independent.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
These were...
Battle-tested people.
They had to get through some wild shit in order to make Texas, Texas.
bridget phetasy
I mean, it's definitely...
I think you said it like it's in the soil.
You know, there's just like...
joe rogan
It's in the soil.
bridget phetasy
It's pretty wild.
I'm obsessed with all the westward expansion.
I'll see people outside of America commenting on America, because you can on X now, and they'll be over in their country.
Come to America and see how big it is, and then imagine that people had to cross this country, fight bears with their hands, and build a nation.
There's still so much.
Yeah.
It's bananas.
joe rogan
Not just that, but the kind of people that were willing to get on a fucking boat.
And come from Europe without even a photograph.
bridget phetasy
I know!
joe rogan
Nobody even made a drawing of what it looked like.
You gotta trust these assholes.
And you're on a boat for two months just trying to not get scurvy, making your way to America, and then you hop off and you see a bunch of brown people with deerskin loincloths on.
You're like, what the fuck is this place?
bridget phetasy
And now you're just like fighting for your life.
Yeah, and we can't even, we can't even like go to...
A restaurant without our GPS map telling us where to go now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know how to get five minutes from my house.
I have to follow that thing.
They were using the fucking sky.
They were using sextants to make their way across the ocean.
They had this fucking stupid thing.
You ever see a sextant?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
They look through it and they figure out where the constellations are.
Oh, I mean, amazing.
Fairly accurate.
bridget phetasy
I don't know.
I still try to use not my map.
I still try to have a bearing.
My husband, though, I'm like, men love this stuff.
He's like, give me a chip.
Let me swipe.
Everything.
It's the men who are the ones who are just ushering in the transhuman revolution.
Because the women are like, I don't trust that bitch.
I am not using Siri.
joe rogan
I get the dumbest pleasure from paying for things with my phone.
I love it.
Apple Pay is my favorite fucking thing of technology.
I do love Apple Pay.
Look at it and then pay.
Oh, I just paid with my phone.
I feel like I'm in the future.
bridget phetasy
Now that I'm in...
Oh, the Waymo are crazy.
Did you see that video of the people beating up the Waymo?
joe rogan
No.
Why were they beating up the Waymo?
bridget phetasy
I don't know.
Probably because of some reaction to what's coming.
It was weird.
I was like, oh, I kind of feel bad for it, but the fact that I was already, I'm like, oh no, they've already got me.
I already consider them kind of human.
joe rogan
Why are they doing, oh my god, they tore the fucking doors off of it?
bridget phetasy
Oh, they went crazy.
joe rogan
For what?
bridget phetasy
Just cause.
jamie vernon
Street takeover, it says.
joe rogan
Oh, street takeover?
jamie vernon
Wrong place, wrong time.
unidentified
Wow.
bridget phetasy
That poor Waymo just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
joe rogan
Wow.
What a bunch of douchebags.
bridget phetasy
This is why we can't have nice things.
joe rogan
No, that's why LA can't have nice things.
LA's so fucking gone.
bridget phetasy
Mad Max there.
joe rogan
It's so gone.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but you had Rick on.
Does he think that it's salvageable?
joe rogan
Yeah, he does.
Yeah.
I mean, he wants to try.
Someone's got to do something radical.
You need some Rudy Giuliani type dude to go in there and clean the whole fucking city up like they did with New York City.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People have to realize like Times Square right now is a giant Applebee's.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when I was a kid, when I first went to a karate tournament in New York, I was probably 18 maybe the first time I went to New York.
And I remember driving in.
Where it felt like you were entering the Death Star.
I couldn't believe it.
It was so crazy.
For me, being a kid, and I was driving with my friends, and we were all going to this tournament at Madison Square Garden.
And as we're driving through the West Side Highway, you're just looking at these fucking buildings.
You can't imagine this is real.
And we went through Times Square, and Times Square was...
Mad Max.
Mad Max in the 80s.
I mean, it was crazy.
It was all peep shows and porno booths and hustlers and people got shot there all the time.
It was really crazy.
We wanted to see what it was like.
We wanted to do one of the things that I did when I first moved to New York, which was 92?
bridget phetasy
How long were you in New York?
joe rogan
I was only in New York for three years.
Like really, I went back and forth for a little while, but then I kept an apartment in New York for like the first, I guess the first year.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
But I never went there.
I was just like, I had become an LA person.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I was working.
But when I first moved there, I'm like, okay, everybody says that Harlem is scary.
Let me just go see what it looks like.
So I drove my little fucking Honda through Harlem.
I just wanted, I wanted to go through, and I was like, what am I doing?
Like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
Like people were just like walking in the middle of the street.
there was abandoned cars it was fucking crazy and then they gentrified the whole thing and I don't know which one's better like now when you go there it's all just neon lights and bad food yeah and back then it was Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Gritty.
joe rogan
It was like, you know, taxi driver.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it was fucking...
bridget phetasy
I was born in New York City and then my brother was born and my parents...
It was 1980 when my brother was born and they were like, we're getting the fuck out of here.
It was just too...
It was the 80s in New York.
They had two kids and they were just like, we're out.
It was too wild.
joe rogan
It's too wild to raise kids in some parts of it.
But in other parts of it, you're just going to raise weird kids.
bridget phetasy
But LA is so different because it's so spread out.
And so I know tons of people there who, like, The restaurant I worked at in the Palisades is gone.
I don't think people from LA don't understand the scope.
The Palisades are gone.
joe rogan
Two times the size of Manhattan has been burned to the ground.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and Altadena too.
And you have entire communities.
But everyone's still going to fucking lunch.
Because they have to.
No, I understand, but it's like a weird...
I don't know.
All I've said the whole time this has happened is, because that was one of my big fears, is exactly what happened.
When there would be fires there, I'd be like, people don't recognize that LA is an island.
Everything comes in.
Nothing is here.
And if these fires surround the city and cut it off, it could have been much worse than it actually was.
And it was really fucking bad.
And I'm like, I would be so furious if I was still there.
I would be furious.
joe rogan
Well, I think people are very furious right now.
I think if it is going to be change, it's going to have to happen while people still have the memory of this thing.
Because the more time goes on, the more the cultists can convince other cult members that they're on the right track and these are the kind, compassionate people and this is the way to do it.
And this is the only way.
And blue no matter who.
And vote blue.
Vote blue.
And protect the trans kids.
And next thing you know, the same shit happens.
bridget phetasy
Do you think, though, people didn't know?
Were they just insulated?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're super insulated.
bridget phetasy
I mean, a lot of people have left because they saw the writing on the wall.
joe rogan
But think about how many people are in Hollywood in Los Angeles.
bridget phetasy
What is it, like 9 million in L.A. County or something?
Or 12?
joe rogan
Maybe 12. Whatever the number is.
There's a giant percentage of those people that live there that are connected to the entertainment business.
And if you're connected to the entertainment business, at the very top of the business, it's people auditioning for things.
And you have to get liked to get the thing.
So you get these immensely insecure people that are usually narcissists, and then they mold their personality to adapt to this environment that will reward them for a certain political ideology.
And so that's the top of the fucking pyramid.
And everything emanates down from that.
If you want to be cool with Ryan Reynolds, you have to talk like a Democrat at the parties.
You know what I'm saying?
You have to say all the things that everybody else is saying.
You have to agree.
We need more gun control.
We should defend the police.
This is bullshit.
You have to say these things.
And if you don't say these things, you don't get to be a part of the group.
And so there's this intense pressure to conform to this singular ideology that's been running things.
things it's not a battle back and forth between two of like 50 50 opposing viewpoints it's like 90 10 right even do you think even though like the crew because when i would be on that's the 10 yeah yeah that's the 10 the crew is the people they're hard-working normal blue-collar people yeah yeah they're normal yeah there's a lot of the crew people were very republican You know, they all live in fucking Santa Clarita or something like that.
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
And they're dudes who just, like, working class guys.
joe rogan
Like most working class people.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Most people that are actually working class realize that it's all bullshit.
It's a hustle.
bridget phetasy
This was the big disconnect that I... So if you were somebody who is going to, like, fix the Democratic Party, which seems to be imploding, what would you tell them to do?
joe rogan
You have to be fiscally conservative.
You have to be fiscally conservative, responsible with your money, and then socially liberal.
That's what you have to do.
bridget phetasy
But they have been socially liberal.
joe rogan
They just went real far.
It's not liberal to allow biological males to compete against biological females in sports because you're being kind.
You're just enabling mental illness and you're enabling the potential for creeps to make their way into women's locker rooms.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
Because you don't have any sort of a metric.
There's no way to gauge whether or not someone's really trans.
So you have perverts with hard dicks that are wandering around women's locker rooms.
bridget phetasy
I know.
joe rogan
And that's real.
bridget phetasy
No, I know.
joe rogan
And if you say something against them, you're a Nazi.
Yeah.
Fucking through the looking glass, like completely.
But it just shows you how it's really just about conforming to an ideology.
It's not about a real core set of standards and beliefs.
Because the core set of standards and beliefs, and this is where things like USAID come into play, they can be manipulated.
They can be manipulated by a mass psyop that you do through the media.
And that is the core thing of this.
What we're getting to is essentially the fucking coffin where the vampire sleeps.
And that's what USAID is.
They found the coffin.
You know, and maybe that coffin does hand out sandwiches in Guatemala occasionally.
But for the most part, what they're doing is they're controlling the entire federal government and they're controlling the mindset, the zeitgeist of the population.
And they're funding all these people that go along with this wacky shit.
And they're attacking.
They're openly attacking and trying to censor people who go against it.
And they're spending your tax dollars to do so.
bridget phetasy
Your tax dollars get funneled to NG... Yeah, usually, but they did become so disconnected from the average person that my advice would be to, you know, they say like, oh, normies did, this is one of the things I'm hearing online, like normies didn't vote for this, what Elon's doing with those six, like, I need a movie about what these kids are doing, by the way.
They didn't vote for this.
I'm like, yes, they did.
Normies didn't vote for, You're saying normies wanted normalcy so they voted for Trump?
People knew what they were getting.
They want something to happen.
joe rogan
You have to rip the band-aid off.
And the only way to rip the band-aid off, someone's got to get into those fucking books and find out what's going on.
And what they found so far is very enlightening.
And it's not good.
It's not good at all.
So anybody that's not commenting on the, hey, you know what?
They are finding a lot of unbelievable waste and corruption.
But also, he shouldn't be able to do that.
Like, they're not even saying he's finding insane waste and corruption.
And he's finding this circular loop of funding.
And he's finding this manipulation of public perception on a wide variety of issues, including COVID, vaccines, the border, all these different things.
They were actively involved in mindfucking the entire country.
And no one's addressing that from the left.
So they're losing more and more credibility.
So all they can cling to is he has access to people's social security numbers and private information.
Like, really?
Is that it?
bridget phetasy
Who doesn't, by the way?
joe rogan
The whole government does, by the way.
But he's saying, is he going to do something bad with it?
Like, what is he doing?
What he's doing is uncovering insane corruption.
That should be the primary thought that everybody has.
Oh, my God, we have this enormous deficit.
But spending is completely out of control.
And look what it's being spent on.
Because this is the first time we're ever getting a fucking peek into the coffin.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
We didn't know.
We're like, we see it.
It's in the dark room.
We hear the fucking organ.
We didn't know what was in the coffin.
Now we do.
bridget phetasy
And I do think you have to salt the earth, too, where all the DEI stuff is.
They're like, oh, they're going too far.
I'm like, no, you've got to root this shit out.
It needs to be...
Gone.
Because like you said, it is an ideology, so it's harder to kind of change the minds of people who have been indoctrinated with this in colleges and schools, but get it out of the institutions.
Saying that there should be male or female on a passport is not, like, that shouldn't be something that's fucking mind-blowing.
joe rogan
Did you see that DNC meeting where they were talking about gender rules?
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
But this is what I mean!
unidentified
They can't even do their own math!
joe rogan
They're trying to figure out, like, we have one non-binary and one identifies as male.
We have to have two identify as this.
bridget phetasy
It's frustrating that someone who came from the left, all of this was left-wing stuff.
Like, we wanted, on the left, accountability.
We wanted to look into the budget.
At some point in the 90s, that was something that was pretty standard and popular.
Bipartisan to, like, not want to be a...
Land acknowledgments are my favorite too.
And then elect two basic bitch white boys.
David Hogg!
This is what you've learned from...
joe rogan
Also, if you don't want the male vote, that's the guy.
When that guy has his arm up in the air, his arm literally looks like that ancient guru that keeps his one arm in the air for like 80 years and his arm is shriveled up into the stick.
That's what it looks like.
unidentified
He's like, fight!
joe rogan
Like, bro, you're not fighting shit.
This is so crazy.
bridget phetasy
I know.
I love how they're like, we lost the male vote.
We need to do some reflection.
And then this is what I don't understand.
joe rogan
He's going to talk the talk.
bridget phetasy
I don't get it.
It feels strange to me.
I feel like you would have learned from this election.
Because the other thing that they're doing is saying this is an unelected shadow government running.
I'm like, who the fuck do you think was running the government for the last four years when we had Pudding Brain in there?
It wasn't him.
We all knew that.
He couldn't even do...
Like field questions until he was pumped with drugs after a certain...
How can you say...
Elon's pretty transparent.
You know, he's not like hiding things.
He's trying to shine light on things.
joe rogan
It's just not their side.
So their side is good.
Not their side is bad.
Which is why they're not looking...
You don't.
It has to crumble.
You have to watch these people implode.
They have to double down.
It has to get worse.
And then more people have to abandon them to the point where someone has to rise.
And it'll have to be a young person.
And that young person will have to be a sensible person who actually is like a real progressive who recognizes that there's a lot of fucking actual corruption and real problems with the system.
And then there could be a lot more social programs that would help people that would make the whole world a better place.
And those people have to rise.
And they have to be not ideologically captured.
They have to be reasonable, intelligent people.
Everybody comes out of universities.
And all these universities are captured.
All these universities are filled with these radical ideologies that people are indoctrinated in.
You leave your parents.
You don't want to, fuck my parents.
They're fucking, my parents are fascists.
And then all of a sudden you're in school and you're like, yeah, there's 80 genders.
And you're fucking out of your mind.
And then it takes years of living in the real world before it comes back around where you go, hey, you know what?
This is actually bullshit.
So it's like a process that has to take place.
bridget phetasy
But do you think they're still being taught this?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
It's unquestionably, without a doubt, they are being taught this.
bridget phetasy
Because so much of DEI and all the stuff that they're dismantling is basically an entire industry that was created for all of these people with these useless degrees and nonsense education to have a job.
joe rogan
And they got all the way to Harvard, the top of Harvard.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is wild.
As a plagiarist, got to be the president of Harvard.
It didn't matter if it made sense.
It mattered if it fit the narrative.
bridget phetasy
I think this election, too, I was like, I don't know, this could go badly when I put out that, like, you know, like, I put out that I was voting.
I'm like, well, like, I could, whatever.
You can get canceled.
Maybe, but I had to be honest, but...
I mean, one of the clips that came from the show is when we were talking about there being a red wave.
And it was right before the midterms.
And people for years were like, oh, guess you were wrong about that.
And it's like...
We weren't really wrong.
We were perceiving something that was happening.
I think it just happened in the general.
It didn't happen in the midterms.
You had people who...
People were still coming out of COVID, by the way.
joe rogan
Way less people vote in the midterms.
bridget phetasy
And you had people trying to get their lives back together after being locked up for two years or whatever.
They were just stumbling out of the COVID years.
Their kids couldn't talk.
Yeah, we were right.
joe rogan
We're defending ourselves.
We were right.
We were just a little off in timeline.
bridget phetasy
We were wrong about that, for sure.
But I do think...
joe rogan
But we were right about the general.
That red wave happened.
bridget phetasy
It's been something, I think, for all the shit that lots of people get, there has been wave after wave after wave of people leaving the Democratic Party.
I'm still seeing it online.
Someone just yesterday posted some video and it was like, I'm done with you!
I was like, how are you guys still shedding people?
joe rogan
They're going to keep shedding people.
They're not going to correct course.
This is a buffalo drop.
Do you know those buffalo jumps?
No.
The Native Americans used to, one of the ways to hunt buffalo was to get them to the edge of a cliff and just run at them and they'd just fall off the edge of the cliff and then people would be waiting on the bottom and they'd butcher them and eat them.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
We're in that pile of buffalo.
bridget phetasy
We're all being run off the cliff?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're going to go off the cliff.
There's no way they're not.
They're not course-correcting at all.
You know, they're saying stupid shit.
It's all nonsense.
Their understanding of social media and the dynamics that you set up by having completely state-controlled mainstream media where they only said the narratives that you guys wanted.
They all said it in step so you could watch different programs.
We don't trust you anymore.
We don't trust the New York Times.
We don't trust the Washington Post.
We don't trust CNN or any of the MSNBC where they're all full with propaganda.
And so that's why the internet rose.
It's not because there was some sort of a fucking right-wing conspiracy and heavily funded.
No, you guys suck.
You guys fucking suck.
And you're not real people.
Nobody wants to hang out with Brian Stelter.
You know what I'm saying?
None of these fucking people are people that people can actually relate to and like.
bridget phetasy
So much of it was bullshit, too.
Like, I didn't really understand media when I first came into media.
I'd already been, like, in Hollywood and comedy and then ended up in media.
And one of the first parties I was ever exposed to was, like, the height of a lot of this, like, 2018. And it was very divided.
And people were in true, like, oh, Trump is, like, gonna ruin the world.
And there was a Daily Beast party and Ann Coulter was there.
And, like, people were all just hanging out.
I'm like, these people don't fucking believe anything they're saying.
I mean, Ann probably does, but these guys don't.
And then I would see this over and over again where people would fight, and then they'd get off, and I'll be like, see you at the play date.
And it's like, oh.
There was something very strange to me about that.
joe rogan
Do you remember that old cartoon where there was the sheepdog and the coyote, and they would say hi to each other in the morning and punch in, and then they'd fuck each other up all day?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that's how it felt.
joe rogan
Morning, Ralph.
Morning, Sam.
bridget phetasy
That's exactly how it felt.
joe rogan
Well, that's what it's really like.
It's pro wrestling.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I mean, that's one of the things that Kamala Harris said after her debate with Joe Biden, where she called, she believed Joe Biden's accuser that, you know, he had sexually assaulted some woman.
Remember that?
She said she believed it, this and that.
And then they asked her about it on Colbert.
She's like, it was a debate!
It was a debate!
And they're laughing, of course.
bridget phetasy
Of course.
joe rogan
It's just a debate.
Now you're his fucking vice president?
This is so nuts.
So you said you think the guy's a rapist and now you think he's awesome to run the country and you're so proud of him?
We did it, Joe.
This is crazy.
We can't trust you if you're willing to do that for a debate.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your debate should be what you really think.
You should say, I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened.
It's a very troubling accusation.
Of course, I don't know what happened.
For you to say that you believe it just because you want to win, now all of a sudden I have to say, well, I don't know if I can trust you about foreign policy.
I don't know if I can trust you about the economy.
I don't know if I can trust you about censorship and the need for a social credit score or all these different things.
What is the real person behind these actions?
Are you entirely motivated by money and influence?
Because that seems like a lot of them.
bridget phetasy
It's upsetting to me, though, because even though it's It's like, we can see it's like wrestling and some of these people are full of shit and they're all buddies and whatever, like hanging out at Park City or hanging out wherever they hang out.
Like, the real people are, I see how like broken some of the Elon thing recently really, it was like a whole new wave of people who were like, I don't know if I can talk to you.
I've managed to survive like eight years of the culture war still.
Maintaining pretty okay relationships with even the most staunch liberals in my life.
And the Elon thing, for some reason, you know, the hand gesture.
joe rogan
Oh, the Hitler thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
It, like, put people over the edge and they were like, I can't, I don't know if I can, you know, be friends with a Nazi apologist.
I've made it this far, but I legitimately feel bad because the media has told these people that this was literally Hitler for many, many years, and then he's up there shaking hands with Obama, there's Joe Biden, they're all up there, it's a peaceful transfer of power.
Have you seen the Kamala one?
They're very confused.
joe rogan
Have you seen the Kamala one doing the Heil Hitler?
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
You haven't seen it?
I'll send it to you, Jamie, if you haven't seen it.
Look, a lot of people do that gesture.
That gesture is from my heart to you.
That's what it is.
It's just you really shouldn't do that if you are...
You know, if you're standing on a stage and you have an angry look in your face.
bridget phetasy
I was joking, too.
Like, what if it was just this kind of autism and he did it?
And then in his brain, he's like, oh, shit, that looked like a Nazi salute.
And then he did it.
Like, if I do it again, then it won't.
And then it's just this cascading freak out.
And he's like, from my heart, I love you.
joe rogan
Boy, Apple made it like real weird finding things now.
They keep messing with this.
Fucking interfaced.
bridget phetasy
You're like, I can't search Kamala Nazi salute on Apple anymore.
joe rogan
I know I have it, and I know it's good.
Let me find it, you fuckheads.
bridget phetasy
I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
Oh, it's wonderful.
bridget phetasy
Because usually it's just a picture, and then they show the context, and it's not really actually that.
joe rogan
No, no, no, this is great.
Of course it's not that.
Of course, the context is not that, but here.
I'm sorry, this is AOC. Oh, okay.
Have you seen this one?
bridget phetasy
I haven't seen this one.
joe rogan
Give me the volume.
unidentified
Everybody does that move.
bridget phetasy
Everybody does.
joe rogan
Tim Walsh did that move.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kamala Harris did that move.
They all did that move.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I mean, when you're announcing people to a stage...
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Thank you.
I love you.
bridget phetasy
But here's the problem when you're...
I just wrote a column about this.
When it is the boy who cries Nazi, the nerds who cry Nazi for all these years, it does end up running cover for Nazis.
joe rogan
Oh, 100%.
100%.
That's part of the real problem.
There was one actual real Nazi that I was following.
For a while on Twitter.
I didn't even have to follow them.
I clicked on their links a bunch of times and then it just started showing up in my feed.
I'm like, okay, good.
Now I don't have to follow you.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
I could see this insanity.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
It was crazy.
bridget phetasy
Well, that's why I love free speech because you're like, I would rather see this.
joe rogan
Look, X has porn.
Hardcore porn.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
I mean, it has everything.
bridget phetasy
You have to watch it on X now because you can't watch it on...
You can't get a porn hub now.
joe rogan
It's all very weird.
bridget phetasy
Thank you, Elon.
joe rogan
It's all very, very, very weird.
No, it is.
It's a very, very strange time for people to try to figure out what's real and what's not.
And you're not going to get a good roadmap from your leaders.
You're just not.
bridget phetasy
And I don't think, like, we're not, like, I've been joking, like, we are the fake news now, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, we said that today because that was the video, right?
bridget phetasy
The fake video?
joe rogan
Yeah, we are the fake news now.
bridget phetasy
Because, I mean, we're just as susceptible to sharing stuff that's not true.
I think there's a big difference between a massive organization being influenced with talking points by a government and corporations to present something versus an idiot sharing propaganda without knowing it.
We, I do, I do wonder like how you, how you have to, you know, I was talking to someone like, is there a way to, I think you have to just like pause, you know?
I assume everything is fake.
That's my default.
I think you start from there and then you try and do your detective work.
joe rogan
Yeah, I, this is my thing.
Oh my God, is that real?
That doesn't seem real.
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
Let me see if that's real.
And then a check.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's something over time.
Before, when I was younger, I'd be like, I want that to be real, so that's got to be real.
bridget phetasy
Right.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
That's a problem.
bridget phetasy
Well, that's how my husband kind of taught me to evaluate everything that I get from the media.
He's like, I look at something and I go, do I want this to be real or not real?
And if so, why?
joe rogan
Yes, that's right.
bridget phetasy
Like, if you start there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
You have a chance.
joe rogan
That's me with UFOs.
bridget phetasy
Ah.
joe rogan
That's my whole UFO take.
Because I, clearly, I want them to be real so bad.
bridget phetasy
I want them to be real so badly.
joe rogan
I got one on my desk here.
I want them to be real so bad.
But the more I fucking look into it, the more I don't believe.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think a lot of it is horseshit.
A lot of it.
But also, maybe some of it's real.
bridget phetasy
It's so...
It's unsettling to think that we're the only things out there for me that I wanted to...
It's like, that can't be.
Surely.
joe rogan
It doesn't seem like it even makes sense that that's true.
So I don't think that that's true.
But I do not know if we've been visited.
But I think a lot of it is bullshit.
I think it's not just bullshit.
I think it's probably government-coordinated bullshit.
I think there's probably sightings that are mass psyops where they're trying to see how people react to things.
I think there's probably crafts that the United States is in possession of that absolutely look like UFOs.
I think there's probably propulsion systems that they use for drones that are infinitely more advanced than we do.
Right.
bridget phetasy
And so they'd say, oh, it's UFO and it's really their technology.
joe rogan
But that doesn't account for the sightings that occurred when it was impossible for that technology to exist.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
That doesn't take you back to like 1950s with Kenneth Arnold where he saw those flying discs moving through the sky, which is where the term flying saucer came from because it was like saucers skipping across a lake.
bridget phetasy
And what about all the people kind of all over the world who have experienced like a similar thing?
And why do all the drawings always look the same?
Is that just collective conscious?
People have seen one, and then they think that...
Or is it...
You know how they always look like aliens?
joe rogan
There's a lot of possibilities.
Another possibility is that the world's not real.
bridget phetasy
And we're in a simulation.
joe rogan
Yeah, that there's something...
Maybe saying the world's not real is not the best way to put it.
unidentified
It makes me so, like, I want to crawl out of my skin.
joe rogan
Maybe the best way to put it is that...
It's not real the way we think it's real.
Like, there's real consequences to your actions.
There's real physical laws that exist in the experience that you're having as a conscious creature moving through this world.
But this world's not totally solid all the time.
It's solid when you interact with it.
The rest of it is vague and weird and malleable.
It's constantly changing in that you wake and sleep and wake and sleep and assume that every time you wake up you're in the same exact area, the same space, the environment looks the same.
But it might be a completely different dimension.
There might be intertwined realities that are constantly experiencing itself over and over and over again.
And then there also might be other dimensions that higher beings have the capability of traversing that we don't.
And that all these things are...
They're happening simultaneously with the actual creation of an artificial reality.
bridget phetasy
It seems so real.
joe rogan
Yeah, it all seems so real, but it also seems fake.
Well, more and more.
I'm sure you know the whole Barron Trump story.
You know, the ancient books that talked about a guy named Elon is going to go to Mars.
bridget phetasy
No!
joe rogan
You never saw about that?
bridget phetasy
No!
joe rogan
It is so crazy that even Elon saw that and was like, is this real?
Like, how is this real?
Was it from 1853?
bridget phetasy
Why does this have to do with Barron Trump?
joe rogan
Because it's about a guy named Barron Trump and his guru is named Don.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
What?
bridget phetasy
I feel like I saw something like this and I was like this.
joe rogan
Barron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey.
bridget phetasy
What is this?
It's a book.
Who wrote it?
joe rogan
It is from 1893. Nearly forgotten, Barron Trump's marvelous underground journey blends science fiction and fantasy in a story told by little Barron Trump, an aristocrat boy, there you go, that's what he is, who sets out from Castle Trump, which is where he lives, to discover a world within a world that he read about in a 15th Central manuscript, celebrated thinker in philosophy he learned Spaniard Don from.
Don.
Don.
His guy, Don.
Yeah.
Join Barron Trump and his faithful dog and companion, Bulger.
They set off at Northern Russia in search of his portal.
Subterranean.
But there's also the other thing.
They go back to Castle Trump.
There's the other thing about Wernher von Braun.
So Wernher von Braun, who was the head of NASA, wrote a novel, a fictional novel about a guy named Elon that takes us to Mars.
Yeah.
So there's like parts of reality that don't seem real.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
They seem...
Like a wink, like an Easter egg, like someone is like winking at you through the simulation.
bridget phetasy
I'm just like an extra in the simulation.
joe rogan
You're a part of it.
It's your version of it that you're going through.
You are the person who's experiencing your world.
I just don't know if your world and my world are exactly the same.
bridget phetasy
Right.
Well, no.
joe rogan
I think they're bubbles.
I think they're bubbles.
And I think the way you interface with the world changes what your bubble consists of.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I think it's all very...
It's very weird.
I don't think it's as simple as that rancher lady thinks when she gets up and feeds her chickens.
I think that's her world.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
That's her world.
But I think the universe itself and how we interact consciously with it and all the things around us, I think it's squirrely.
I think it's real squirrely.
And I think every now and then the universe shows us something like this fucking Werner Von Braun book where you go, what?
Even the name Elon and Mars, what are the fucking odds?
And then it turns out that Elon was actually named by his father when his father read that book.
bridget phetasy
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
But no, even crazier.
What is the odds your son is going to be the guy who goes to fucking Mars?
bridget phetasy
My daughter is obsessed with Mars.
And we always, like, know all the planets.
And it's weird.
I have no obsession with Mars.
But she's obsessed with the stars, the planets.
She can point them out at night.
She's like, that's Jupiter, that's Mars, blah, blah, blah.
And we asked her one day, we said, which planet do humans live on?
And she said, Earth and Mars.
And I was like...
Maybe.
joe rogan
Well, you saw the square.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
That square on Mars.
bridget phetasy
Is that real?
joe rogan
Yes, that's real.
bridget phetasy
That's a real photo.
joe rogan
That's a real satellite image of Mars where you see a square structure.
By the way, it's right down the street.
It's like a hike away from Cydonia, the face on Mars.
So it's a hike away from that thing that they saw from...
God, I want to say it was like the 1970s.
They sent a satellite to Mars to take photographs of the surface, and they saw this thing that looked like a face.
The face on Mars, though, it seems like what that is is just light with shitty resolution, and it looked like a face.
What's interesting more about the face on Mars, so that's the original image.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
See, the problem with that is, it's just, it's not clear enough.
It could be anything.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now, go to the modern images of the face on Mars.
You can see them right there.
It's right below.
See the slide right there, where you just were.
Okay, that's kind of creepy.
To the right, to the right.
Yeah, right there.
Click on that.
So that's what it actually looks like.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
So you could see how that just looks like a mountain.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But what's interesting is the shape of it.
The shape of it is weird.
How it curves at the bottom and it's kind of equal-sided and it goes up to the top and it has right-angle turns.
So that image of what that thing is, where that's located, is just a small hike away from this immense square that they've discovered.
That's 200...
They don't know exactly how big it is, but the rough estimate is somewhere around 200 meters across.
bridget phetasy
What do they think it is?
joe rogan
It's a structure.
That's what I think it is.
I don't think it can be anything other than a structure.
bridget phetasy
What does Elon think it is?
joe rogan
He thought it was wild.
bridget phetasy
Has he commented on it?
joe rogan
I mean, I sent him a text message.
I said, imagine if you go up there and you find evidence of a previous civilization.
He's like, that is fucking wild.
It's wild because that's a real square.
bridget phetasy
What the...
Yeah, that just doesn't seem like that would exist naturally.
joe rogan
It doesn't seem like it's possible for it to be a perfect square.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that's crazy.
I thought this was fake.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
No, it's real.
It's real.
It's very disturbing because that's a fairly high-resolution image.
And Elon has backed a mission to Mars to go and check that out.
They want to check it out.
See, there's an article right there from the Daily Mail, Elon backs mission to Mars, where he wants to...
Send something up there to check it out.
If you see these images, I don't think there's a chance in hell that that's not made by someone.
bridget phetasy
That seems very strange.
joe rogan
I don't think that nature makes a square.
bridget phetasy
No!
I mean...
joe rogan
Is that a rectangle or a square?
I mean, what are the...
Is it perfectly square?
It might be slightly off.
Whatever it is, it's four right-angle turns.
bridget phetasy
Conspiracy theorists have likened the structure of the Great Pyramid in Egypt.
joe rogan
Conspiracy theorists is a nice way to put it.
How about just people looking at it going, what the fuck is that?
bridget phetasy
I know, why do they always call them conspiracy theorists?
joe rogan
Because they're assholes.
They're assholes, and they work for the Daily Mail.
So it's right down the street from that area, which is really crazy.
bridget phetasy
And what do they think the face is?
Just like a giant stuck in the Martian surface?
joe rogan
I don't think anybody really thinks it's a face anymore.
If you scroll up and look at that image from July 1976, that image, what's interesting to me is not the face, because I don't think it's a face, but what's interesting to me is the shape of the base of it.
The shape of the base of it is weird.
It's flat on the bottom, equal-sided, and domed on the top.
It looks unnatural.
It doesn't mean it's unnatural.
There's a lot of shit that looks unnatural in nature that is actually natural, but not squares.
That giant square where it looks like building...
bridget phetasy
There was like a civilization there?
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, the thing is, Mars had a real atmosphere.
Mars has liquid water.
We know it does.
And at one point in time, they think that Mars was capable of sustaining life.
So if you imagine the planets over time get further and further away from the sun.
If you go back a billion years, how much closer was Mars to the sun?
And what was the temperature like?
And we were like Venus?
Yeah.
There's people that believe that the initial civilization escaped Mars and came to Earth.
unidentified
Oh.
bridget phetasy
What about the moons of Jupiter?
joe rogan
Well, there's one.
bridget phetasy
Europa or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, Europa, that's solid ice, and they think underneath that, well, the surface is solid ice, and they think underneath that is liquid water, and liquid water is capable of supporting life.
So it's possible, especially when you see, like, those thermal vents that they find in the bottom of the ocean that sustain some form of life.
There might be some form of life inside the oceans of Europa.
bridget phetasy
Are you joking about all this stuff?
joe rogan
No.
No, I'm not joking about Mars.
That image, it sounds really crazy.
bridget phetasy
No, I mean, are you joking about it on stage?
joe rogan
Sometimes.
I used to have this whole bit about Mars.
But there's places in America that you can't live to.
Like, go to Death Valley, look around.
Sucks, right?
No one lives here.
That's because it sucks.
Get out of here.
You're not going to fix that, and you're going to go fix Mars?
bridget phetasy
I mean, I have no desire.
joe rogan
The whole planet has no air.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, no, it's not appealing to me at all.
Some people, you watch these documentaries, and they're like, I think of Mars like my second home.
I want to go live there.
I'm like, it sounds horrible.
joe rogan
They also think they're a cat.
I'm also a foxkin.
bridget phetasy
Space just feels claustrophobic to me, even though it's vast.
Until you can build things that make it feel a little more...
I don't want to get in a tube and go live in a...
Do you watch Silo?
joe rogan
No, I haven't watched it.
bridget phetasy
I love Silo.
Is it good?
I love anything that's like post-apocalyptic show where people are living in a wasteland or in some weird, and they're underground in all these silos, and they all have to live, and there's people at the bottom, and it's really, but it's definitely like, they've never seen the sun, they've never seen...
The sky.
You know, it's like they've had an alternate history that's been kind of told to them.
joe rogan
Jesus.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's all possible.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that's like a post-nuclear world.
Like when the AI gets smart and nukes us all.
joe rogan
Yeah, but how are we going to get vitamin D down there?
It's not good.
bridget phetasy
They have like plants and trees.
joe rogan
You don't get vitamin D from plants?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I don't know.
Now that you like burned the boat and all of your stuff, are you just kind of having fun?
unidentified
Rebuilding?
bridget phetasy
What do you mean?
Now that you just did all your material.
joe rogan
Oh, stand-up-wise?
Yeah.
Just having fun.
Just trying to come up with a new hour and fucking around.
bridget phetasy
It's so fun.
joe rogan
It's a weird time for comedy.
bridget phetasy
Do you think?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's a really good time for comedy.
bridget phetasy
Well, yeah, I feel like it's a great time.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's so much information.
But it's a weird time, too, because the center of comedy has now moved to Texas.
bridget phetasy
That's awesome.
joe rogan
So that's weird.
That's a crazy thing.
unidentified
That's your fault.
joe rogan
And it's also moved online, which is also a crazy thing.
Main promotional aspect of comedy is now online.
bridget phetasy
I heard Jesselnik talking about this, about being like a Clips comic.
I saw a clip of him going around talking about being a Clips comic.
unidentified
How ironic.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it was very meta.
But he was talking about how before people would recognize him in the old ways, and now people recognize him.
He said it's like a different level of fame from...
When he was famous before just for stand-up, now he's like the Clips guy.
But I think that's like everyone, right?
joe rogan
It's just a different medium.
That's all it is.
It's no different than you being on some Comedy Central show.
It's just way more impactful.
bridget phetasy
I've talked to a lot of people about how the videos...
Crowd work videos have changed crowds because now crowds think they're helping you by chiming in.
It's some crazy percentage of people who have never been to a comedy show at a comedy show.
A very high percentage of people have never been to a comedy show at every comedy show.
Isn't that weird?
It's quite high.
joe rogan
Interesting, right?
So they're accustomed to seeing Matt Rife stuff.
bridget phetasy
And so they think they're actually helping you by heckling so that you can get your...
joe rogan
I don't think they think they're helping you.
I think they want to be heard.
bridget phetasy
They want to be a part of it.
joe rogan
That's the way they get in.
I'm helping!
You just want to chime in.
I saw some video clip of some lady losing her shit on some guy in the audience.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I saw this.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very weird.
bridget phetasy
And everyone's like, this is amazing!
joe rogan
It's not really amazing.
bridget phetasy
I was like, it seems upsetting.
joe rogan
It's also not very well handled.
The whole experience is not expertly, there's not a lot of humor in there.
bridget phetasy
People love it.
This is comedy.
It's subjective, I guess.
Well, that's not comedy.
joe rogan
That's just people talking.
One person with a microphone in power and one person in the audience is challenging that.
Give me the microphone and fuck you.
bridget phetasy
It's wild, like the clips thing.
The clips are feeding...
Feeding the algorithm is freaking, it's such a crazy thing to me.
joe rogan
Well, that's with everything, right?
Clips from podcasts are way more popular than the podcasts themselves.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
So many clips go viral on, you know, X. You think TikTok's going to be banned?
No.
bridget phetasy
No?
No.
They'll keep it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think so.
The fucking president uses it.
I met the fucking CEO of TikTok when I was at the inauguration.
bridget phetasy
What was that like?
joe rogan
Like, uh...
Being in Satan's balls.
unidentified
Where?
joe rogan
Just going to the actual fucking...
bridget phetasy
Inauguration?
joe rogan
The actual house of government.
Being in the actual buildings where all this stuff gets done.
It's very, very strange.
bridget phetasy
How long were you there?
joe rogan
A couple days.
bridget phetasy
And so you went to some of the balls?
The balls?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Was it like...
Hunger Games?
joe rogan
It's like really rich entitled people that donated a lot of money.
They just like jump in front of you to take pictures with you.
They don't care who you're talking to.
Everybody was like super pushy.
It's all very transactional.
Everybody needs to get on your podcast and needs to talk to you about a thing and you have to get this person.
It's like everything's exhausting and everybody's wealthy.
And they're also, they spent a lot of money to get there.
Like a lot of those people, they donated like a million dollars.
Holy shit.
Thousands of people donate a million dollars.
bridget phetasy
Just to be there.
joe rogan
Just to be there.
And they're all fucking just super enthusiastic because their team just won.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
And it's the inauguration of the president and Kid Rock's there and everybody's going crazy.
It was fun for a while.
It was me and Tony Hinchcliffe and Theo Vaughn.
bridget phetasy
Lex?
joe rogan
Logan Paul was there.
bridget phetasy
Oh yeah, I saw that.
joe rogan
And Jake Paul.
And we were all having a good old time.
We were laughing and having fun.
And then too many people just started swarming us.
And then it was just like, you're dealing with like 10,000 people in this room and you can't move.
You can't go anywhere.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
And it got crazy.
You couldn't have a conversation.
You had to just try to get out of there.
bridget phetasy
Was the inauguration like moving?
Was it?
unidentified
Did you?
joe rogan
Fascinating.
bridget phetasy
Was it weird to be part of all that, like, pomp and...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It was very weird.
Very, very...
bridget phetasy
Were you in the main...
joe rogan
Oh, I was on the stage.
I was in the fifth row.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
I was, like, right there.
bridget phetasy
I was unaware.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was, like...
bridget phetasy
Looking at Lauren Sanchez's tits.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I could have thrown a pebble and hit Hillary Clinton in the head.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were right there.
It was weird.
First of all, it's weird watching, like, Bill Clinton walk into a room.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, he's real.
That's him.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
All the shit that guy's escaped, and there he is, right there.
unidentified
Oh, TV, hey, how you doing?
joe rogan
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
Weird.
It's weird.
It's weird seeing those people.
It's funny they let you in there.
I know, right?
bridget phetasy
Whenever I'm in situations like that, I'm like, why are they letting me in here?
They should know better.
joe rogan
I thought of that a little, but, you know, it's cool.
It was weird.
You only get to be at one of those maybe once in your life if you're really lucky.
Especially that one which was indoors because it was insanely cold outside.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that seems like probably better.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, it was cold as fuck outside too.
Definitely better for security.
But it was very cold outside and windy and shit.
bridget phetasy
Is it weird to be like, I don't know, I was looking at all the people up there and it was just, it seems like it's so much...
I don't know.
It seems like it's just like...
Is everyone kissing the ring?
Does it feel kind of like...
You know what I mean?
Is it like a...
I don't know.
Does it feel kind of gross?
Or was it like cool?
joe rogan
Well, it feels strange.
It feels strange that it's real.
It also feels strange that we're standing up because there's a standing ovation every 15 seconds.
unidentified
We're going to turn the Gulf of Mexico and the Gulf of America!
joe rogan
We're all standing up.
unidentified
Fuck yeah, we're going to do that.
joe rogan
It was fun watching George Bush.
George Bush was the only guy clapping.
He was having a good time.
All the other presidents looked deeply disturbed.
Kamala Harris had this motherfucker.
Look on her face the entire time.
She sat there like this the entire time.
bridget phetasy
Well, I mean...
joe rogan
Very upset.
bridget phetasy
Obviously.
joe rogan
Well, also, he's talking about how bad they sucked.
bridget phetasy
And she lost.
joe rogan
And they're right there.
bridget phetasy
And she has to sit there.
joe rogan
And she's sitting right next to Biden, who's...
bridget phetasy
Who's not there.
joe rogan
He's just gone.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then behind them is Obama and George W. That's wild, man.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
I was like, I hope there's like a, you know, what's that called when there's like the extra person or whatever, the designated survivor?
I'm like...
joe rogan
Yeah, because they're all in the room.
unidentified
There's a lot of people.
bridget phetasy
You could really fuck America up right now.
joe rogan
One bomb.
Yeah, I think they're aware of that.
I think there's probably steps taken to make sure that the skies are clear.
But it's very strange, but also kind of exciting.
Because if he really does get to do all this stuff, if we really do see radical change, it seems like that's what's happening.
And if Bobby Kennedy really does get in, and if Tulsi Gabbard really does get in, this is a crazy time.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is like an unprecedented cabinet of people that are kind of unified and all know each other.
They're all friends.
bridget phetasy
And it's also kind of bipartisan.
Like, RFK Jr. brought...
He brought so many people over.
I know so many people who were not going to vote for Trump, but then when he kind of brought RFK Jr. over, they were like, alright.
I mean, if he's there.
And Tulsi, too.
They were libs.
I don't know.
That must have been pretty...
unidentified
It's bizarre.
joe rogan
It's bizarre.
bridget phetasy
It seemed like, I was like, that must be so surreal to be there.
Because it was surreal to watch it just like when you think about the fact that he nearly got killed.
Like the whole sequence of events that led to that moment.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
The debate where he just like fell apart.
Just was surreal to watch.
So I was wondering, like, that must be pretty bonkers to be there.
joe rogan
He should have seen Biden his face the entire time.
He looked upset.
Almost like he was going to cry at one point in time.
He looked so upset.
I think he thinks he could have won.
bridget phetasy
Do you have any fears about it?
Like, what about the Riviera?
joe rogan
Oh, the Gaza thing?
bridget phetasy
The Riviera!
joe rogan
The Riviera of the Middle East!
bridget phetasy
You did such a good impression of me.
joe rogan
I thought I could.
It's, uh, yeah, I mean, what's the alternative to that happening?
They're saying no U.S. military will be there.
The United States is going to clean it up, rebuild it, give it to the Palestinians, make it safe.
bridget phetasy
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Get rid of Hamas.
I mean, the thing is, what...
Palestinians want is a state.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
They want their own state and this is like a step sort of away from that.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now it'll be that section of that area is now controlled by the United States.
bridget phetasy
What the fuck?
And Greenland.
Don't forget Greenland.
joe rogan
The question is like what's the better option?
Like give it to Hamas?
What's the better option?
Give it to the Palestinians and they give it to the Islamic State?
Like who gets it?
bridget phetasy
I'm not smart enough for any of this.
joe rogan
Also, how did you let it happen in the first place?
How did this administration let them just bomb the fucking shit out of all those people and blow up an entire city to the point where you...
You could even feasibly say that you would rebuild it.
Because it's not like before this had happened, if anybody had ever said the United States is going to go into Gaza and completely rebuild it and make it the United States, everybody's like, fuck you.
You need to give that to Palestine.
But once you blow it up, you're like, well, I guess.
There's nothing left.
People are pushing back against it.
A lot of people are upset, but not as upset as they would if they didn't blow it up.
bridget phetasy
Oh, that's weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because it's weird.
It's horrible.
And we've just accepted the fact that this is what Israel did.
And, you know, for 1,200 people and 250 hostages, they killed 60,000 people.
bridget phetasy
Is that the actual number?
Who knows?
joe rogan
I don't know what the number is.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's the current number of people that are dead in Gaza right now?
bridget phetasy
It's such a weird thing, too, because Israel, I feel like, has to, like, not win a war, which is a weird thing, where they have to, like, they're in a position where they...
joe rogan
They already won the war.
I mean, what war?
It's one army.
There's one army and some terrorists.
It's like Bill Hicks' joke about Iraq.
Like, it's only a war when there's two armies fighting.
They're like, whoa, Bill, Iraq's the fourth largest army.
He goes, yeah, well, after the top two, there's a huge drop-off.
unidentified
He's like the Salvation Army is number three.
bridget phetasy
I don't want there to be war.
I think most people agree on that.
joe rogan
Of course, but also we don't live in Israel, right?
We don't have to live with the Iron Dome because missiles are being shot into your city and you watch them explode up in the sky because your military has these rockets that shoot up in the sky missiles and take these fucking missiles out.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I think about like if it was my daughter that was like in some tunnel, I would be like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
There'd be no lengths.
joe rogan
Well, that's...
bridget phetasy
You know, I know that's very, like, selfish of me, but that is, on a personal level, I'm like, I can't even imagine how I would feel in that situation as a parent.
joe rogan
Of course.
Well, that's the deepest conspiracy theory about why it happened in the first place, is because Netanyahu was losing power and people were protesting against him in the streets, and what better way...
To get everybody on your side than to allow an attack to take place.
That's the darkest of the false flag conspiracy theories.
bridget phetasy
I have a lot of people that I know who now think 9-11 was an inside job after October 7th.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
bridget phetasy
Isn't that crazy?
They're like, well, if they would do it here, they would do it.
Why wouldn't they do it in America?
It's been like this kind of reverse leap.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, anytime you have a big tragedy like 9-11, you're always going to have a bunch of wild theories.
But some of them are interesting.
You're supposed to dismiss them all because they're conspiracy theories.
But Tower 7 is like, explain that.
bridget phetasy
I can't.
I have people in my life who are very much like truthers, I think, about this.
joe rogan
That's a weird one.
That's a weird one.
bridget phetasy
What's the conspiracy around Tower 7?
joe rogan
It collapses like a controlled demolition completely into its base.
No building's ever done that before without being a controlled demolition.
It doesn't have all the signature aspects of a controlled demolition.
Like if you ever watch like when they blow up one of them Vegas casinos.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Super obvious.
It goes bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
And it all collapses.
It doesn't have that.
But it does have something similar in that the effect is the same.
So is it possible to do that without having it the way the casinos do it?
Is there only one way to have a controlled demolition of a building?
Or is it possible that just immense diesel fires weaken the structure uniformly in such a weird way that it collapsed exactly like...
A controlled demolition, but it's just the result of this.
unidentified
Just a coincidence.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had diesel generators in the basement of that thing, and the whole fucking inside of it was on fire.
So when you see it on the outside, you only see a little bit of fire and some holes, but the entire inside of it was in flames.
bridget phetasy
We're living in a simulation.
joe rogan
Maybe that.
Maybe that's another wink.
Maybe that's another fucking...
bridget phetasy
We didn't have social media, though, thank God.
joe rogan
Right.
bridget phetasy
During that.
Can you imagine?
joe rogan
No, but we did have plenty of people that were questioning it once they saw it on television.
Because you saw it on TV and you're like, what is that?
How does it do that?
That wasn't even hit by a plane.
bridget phetasy
Do you remember seeing the skyline the first time you went to New York?
joe rogan
Oh, without the Twin Towers?
I don't think I actually saw it.
I went back in 2001. I was there in 2001. Yeah.
Maybe 2002. It was probably a couple of months after September 11th.
bridget phetasy
I took a train in November.
And because I took the train in, I always used to take the train in from Rhode Island where I was.
And it was so jarring.
They were so part of that.
joe rogan
They were so huge.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and you just took it for granted.
That was the landscape.
I'll never forget it.
joe rogan
I thought it was weird too that when they rebuilt it, they didn't make it as tall.
bridget phetasy
Why didn't they?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's only one building now.
It's not two.
bridget phetasy
I know.
joe rogan
And it's not as tall.
It's pretty tall.
But they didn't get crazy.
unidentified
We're going to make the biggest fucking building the world's ever seen.
bridget phetasy
It's going to be like a middle finger to the world.
joe rogan
If Trump was there, he'd be like, we're going to have two buildings on the side and one right up your ass.
It's like, fuck you.
It looks like that.
It's smaller.
Smaller than the original buildings.
bridget phetasy
I do wonder, like, I just, I'm so curious about what it's going to be like for our kids.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it looks like now.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it the tallest building in the U.S.? Yeah, but it's not as tall, right?
jamie vernon
I don't know what the height was.
joe rogan
I think it's shorter.
jamie vernon
No, if it's shorter than a...
joe rogan
Still the tallest?
jamie vernon
The World Trade Center wasn't the tallest building.
joe rogan
No, not in the world.
jamie vernon
No, in the U.S. even.
joe rogan
Oh, it wasn't?
jamie vernon
The Sears Tower was bigger.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
Where's the Sears Tower?
bridget phetasy
Chicago.
joe rogan
That's taller than the World Trade Center?
jamie vernon
It was.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Now this is the top.
joe rogan
I didn't know that.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
The Sears Tower was the tallest building in the world for a while.
joe rogan
So the Twin Towers were taller than the Sears Tower?
bridget phetasy
They were shorter.
joe rogan
They were shorter.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't know why you're saying that, I guess.
joe rogan
Oh, it's the same.
Oh, it has the same name as the North Tower of the original.
How tall is it?
It is shorter, though, right?
Isn't it?
jamie vernon
I don't know that.
So the Willis Tower was the tallest one.
joe rogan
I remember people being upset when they were rebuilding it because it wasn't going to be as tall.
1776. So 110 stories was the original one, and the tower was 1,350 feet high.
How tall is the one now?
jamie vernon
1776. So it's taller?
Yep.
joe rogan
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
jamie vernon
Really?
joe rogan
Can I see the image again?
jamie vernon
I don't know where else you want me to go with this.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Is it because they cheat with that big pole at the top?
jamie vernon
I mean, they do that with all of them.
The other one had a big pole on top, too.
joe rogan
But isn't that to stop lightning bolts?
jamie vernon
Some of it.
Some of it's antenna stuff.
joe rogan
Some of it's to talk to aliens.
Some of it's cell phone tower.
Okay, I'm wrong.
I thought it was shorter.
Maybe what they were saying is it's smaller because there's only one instead of two.
jamie vernon
The spire makes it 1776. The spire.
joe rogan
How tall is that fucking spire?
jamie vernon
The spire of the World Trade Center.
I never saw this.
They're saying that's what made Tower 7 fall.
It made a gash.
joe rogan
What?
bridget phetasy
What made a gash?
jamie vernon
The spire on the tower here fell and made a gash down the side and started a fire here.
I've never seen this video.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
I was just looking through it to see what...
joe rogan
Well, that's one thing with the video that we saw.
Oh, look at that.
jamie vernon
Interesting.
They have photos of what that...
I don't think they have an actual video of that happening.
joe rogan
Oh, it fell and fucked up the building.
But still.
Still.
Why didn't it just fall into that side?
Why does it compress into its base?
The way it collapses, like, I've never seen anybody adequately describe it.
But one thing that people should know is that the top of it collapsed before the whole thing collapsed.
There was this piece on the top, so the roof caved in first.
Like, there was like, there's a smaller structure on top of the roof that imploded and went through the base.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
And then the whole thing went under.
So it wasn't like it all went in one shot.
The top of it had already collapsed and went through.
bridget phetasy
God, that was such a weird time in America.
I was thinking about how, like, just catatonic I was on the couch recently.
Just, like, that whole week afterwards.
joe rogan
Right.
bridget phetasy
Just nobody...
joe rogan
I know.
bridget phetasy
Because it's weird.
Like, I have family members who have kids and their kids are now, like...
They were born right around that time.
They were one, two years old.
They've grown up.
They don't remember kind of what it was like before that.
And they, I don't know.
I feel like the world, I have a friend and he's like, everything went to shit after 9-11.
Everything just got shittier.
joe rogan
Well, everything did go to shit because that's when they passed the Patriot Act.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's when the government really got its hooks into your information.
jamie vernon
Clarification here.
New one, 1776, 541 meters tall.
Old one.
With the spire, it was 1730, but it was 1368 without the spire.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
The spire, so without the intent of the building, it was 417 meters tall, so I think you were close.
Okay.
joe rogan
So it's not much different, though.
I thought it was a lot different, like 10 stories or some shit.
So it's 104 floors.
jamie vernon
And four basement floors.
joe rogan
And the other one was 110 floors.
jamie vernon
Yeah, how many basement floors?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Also, it's like, how tall are the floors?
You know?
I hope this one doesn't...
bridget phetasy
Do you think this administration is going to try and get rid of the Patriot Act?
joe rogan
No.
Why would they do that?
I think they have those tools and power to actually...
They'll use it as an excuse to go get terrorists.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but haven't we all wanted to get rid of it for a long time?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, then they have the Patriot Act 2, which is even more invasive.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
But people, like, that seems like a bipartisan thing somebody could get behind.
joe rogan
Maybe.
But the real neocons will come out and say that weakens us against our enemies.
We need this power to be able to find terrorists and be able to search out.
I mean, that was one of the things that the Obama administration, when they passed the NDAA, they go, you know, we're not going to do it.
We're not going to just, like, detent.
Detain people indefinitely.
We wouldn't do it.
But the problem is you're given the law, that law is now in the books, and now the next person, what if it's a psycho?
And the person after that, what if it's a psycho?
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
Now you've given them power to become a dictator.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And go after their political enemies, which normal people won't do, right?
You guys don't do that, right?
bridget phetasy
I mean, it's going to be a wild four years, I think.
Because I did think that, like, I figured, I figured, I thought maybe that people would understand that they were wrong and that, like, maybe they'd gone too far.
And I was...
And it seems like hysteria.
joe rogan
I don't think people learn that good.
I think people learn by having their lives ruined and getting really angry.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And then they change course.
But I think the people that are still comfortable and still working in these environments that still cling to these ideas, they're going to double down and wear a pussy hat and fucking paint their hair blue and protest in the streets.
bridget phetasy
It's so weird because I was thinking about how I've now been 10 years in the culture wars, which is not...
I mean, I kind of stumbled into them.
joe rogan
Are you a sergeant now?
What are you?
bridget phetasy
I don't know.
Are you a general?
I don't know what I am.
But it has been a weird decade to be...
I think so many normies are like me.
They just got kind of forced into being in them.
I was like a drunk waitress who just wanted to tell jokes.
And then I started writing for Playboy, and next thing I know, I'm voting for Trump.
joe rogan
Well, you know, as a drunk waitress, you're one of us.
You're a human.
And humans, there's a lot of people that have opinions and ideas on things.
They're just not good at articulating it, or they never learned how to articulate it.
But everybody does what we do, or everybody can do what we do.
They do it with their friends.
They talk with their friends.
They bullshit about stuff.
You know, it's just a process of putting it out there.
bridget phetasy
We've had...
I've had...
Some weird YouTube strikes that I'd say, yes, it's easy to do, except I've had to play 10 years of a game of, like, outrunning censors and, like, Patreon.
Okay, we're there.
And then we've got to get off there because I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket in case they go bonkers and shut it down.
And then I feel like a lot of people in this space have been for, like, a decade out.
You know, we're like, how are we going to...
We got, like, the dumbest strike on an old ad.
Of ours.
And it was something that we said.
And then you have to go to, like, you know, like, you've got to go to, like, class and get re-educated.
joe rogan
Jamie got re-educated.
Didn't you, Jamie?
You feel better right now, right?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You feel smarter.
Now you got re-educated by YouTube.
bridget phetasy
What did you get re-educated for?
jamie vernon
Which part of YouTube?
joe rogan
You got re-educated.
jamie vernon
Sure, I guess.
joe rogan
Didn't you?
When we had a strike, you had to do the little classes.
jamie vernon
Oh, that's what you're talking about.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
bridget phetasy
He's like, what re-education?
joe rogan
He got re-educated.
bridget phetasy
He's different now.
joe rogan
He's better now.
Because we told factual information about COVID-19.
bridget phetasy
And so you got a strike?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was because it was a long time ago.
bridget phetasy
But ours is weird because it was a very old episode, so they must be trolling.
joe rogan
I don't know what they're doing.
They're probably just using their algorithm and going after everything.
bridget phetasy
Ours, literally, we said...
Think for yourself and come to your own conclusions.
joe rogan
Oh, that's dangerous.
bridget phetasy
That was the ad read.
It wasn't even on our podcast.
unidentified
It was an ad read we were doing for someone else's podcast.
joe rogan
I shouldn't give that advice out.
People shouldn't be doing that.
bridget phetasy
But this is why it's hard for people to just say what they want.
joe rogan
Well, what do you think is going to happen when you're looking at all this crazy shit right now with Doge and the uncovering of USAID and this dismantling of this bizarre left-wing ecosystem that's pretty much manufactured?
What do you see is going to happen with the rest of the country?
bridget phetasy
I mean, look, there are a lot of people who did not vote for Trump.
He won.
And yes, he won every swing state.
joe rogan
Half the country's a lot of people.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it's a lot of people.
And I'm not sure how many of them...
I wonder how many...
So I have a couple questions.
How many people didn't vote for Trump and wanted to and are secretly glad he won?
I bet there's a pretty significant number of those people who either didn't vote or didn't vote for him but wanted him to win anyway.
joe rogan
Ari says that.
Ari says that New York City is relaxed.
It's like everybody was relaxed after the election.
Even the liberals are like...
bridget phetasy
Yeah, thank God.
They're like, woo!
joe rogan
Yeah, like, thank God you saved me from myself.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, exactly.
Because it's God doing for us what we can't do for ourselves.
Yeah, so there's that, I wonder.
But then I do wonder how many of the people are...
What I worry about is how much mental...
This is where I get mad at the media for presenting this, like, this is Hitler, having it notched up to 11 for the past eight years.
And now you've got this...
Because he was put in...
It's almost like that...
That energy has been transferred to Elon now.
Because now...
Did you see the Elon protests?
They're protesting Elon.
They're literally standing out there with signs that say, arrest Elon Musk.
joe rogan
Listen, I guarantee it's organized.
I guarantee it's organized by the same people that are going to lose a shitload of money.
Based on all these discoveries at Doge.
There's no way they're not.
If you look at what Doge is uncovering, what they're uncovering with this USAID stuff, a lot of that stuff was organizing through NGOs protests.
They organized the attempt at getting Trump impeached.
bridget phetasy
I thought you were going to say killed.
They organized the impeachment.
joe rogan
They also spent, USAID spent $50 million on the lab that invented coronavirus.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of money involved in this not working.
And when you have a lot of money involved, you're going to have organized protests.
When you see protests, we all want to think protests like the 1960s.
Yeah, fight the war, man.
It's like organic, like peace, love and hippie shit.
But that's not what this is.
What this is is organized, funded protests where someone is spending a lot of money and they're mobilizing other NGOs.
They're using their access to these mailing lists and all these different things.
They're putting these things together.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but do you think that the average liberal person, do you think that they're going to wake up and come around?
Or do you think that they're going to be in agony for four years?
joe rogan
What if it works?
What if the world gets safer, the country gets safer, the economy improves, and they don't attack civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, all these things that everybody's worried about?
And then at the end of it, you realize, hey, maybe I was wrong.
bridget phetasy
I mean, that's my question, though.
Are they capable of that kind of self-reflection?
joe rogan
What we're saying they is if it's like one kind of person.
There's so many different people in they.
bridget phetasy
Agreed.
I mean, when I say they, I mean people who have bought into the idea that this person is going to make everything worse and we're going to slip into a fascist technocracy.
joe rogan
Some of them.
Some of them are going to slip right into it.
Some of them are going to wake up and come around.
It's a test.
It's a test of character.
It's a test of objectivity.
It's a test of introspection.
There's a lot of things that are going to happen where people are going to have to wonder, like, what was I rooting for?
When I was rooting for this progressive liberal government, what was I actually rooting for?
Was I rooting for warmongers who were making insane amounts of profit by funding overseas wars?
What was I rooting for?
What was I rooting for?
Was I rooting for a basic theft of our tax dollars that's gone to all these completely useless endeavors that were only set up as ways to pill for money?
bridget phetasy
Or the fall of America.
This is a weird thing to hate your own country so much that you want it to fall or the dismantling of the kind of West as we know it.
There is a feeling that Elon might have saved the West.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
I think he did.
bridget phetasy
I feel like at least he's trying to.
joe rogan
I think he did.
unidentified
I think he did, but just by buying X. But isn't it funny that he got forced into it?
bridget phetasy
I think there's like something kind of ironic.
joe rogan
Well, funny because he was trying to get it at a lower price because he knew that they were bullshitting about the amount of bots.
bridget phetasy
Well, and then they came out yesterday and now it's profitable.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
There's like a whole article about how he turned it around.
unidentified
Of course it's going to be profitable.
joe rogan
He's smarter than you.
bridget phetasy
He is smarter.
He also knows that we are all...
joe rogan
Tapped in.
bridget phetasy
I can't stop it.
I've always had a Twitter addiction.
It's the thing that replaced my...
Drinking and smoking weed when I quit that.
I went right to Twitter.
I was like, Elon knows none of these motherfuckers, even when they go to Blue Sky, they've all got secret accounts and they're lurking on Twitter still, or X still, or whatever.
joe rogan
You can't live in that echo chamber, that Blue Sky echo chamber.
You can't even go on there and say there's only two genders.
If you go on there and say there's two genders, they ban you immediately.
bridget phetasy
They're like eating themselves within two days over there, though.
joe rogan
But that's what always happens.
That's happened with Gab, too, right?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I think some of that is not even real.
I personally know comics who go on Blue Sky and just say insane leftist stuff, just like the most preposterous thing, like maybe Duncan would do.
I'm not saying Duncan does it, but he might do it.
But I know comics that do that just to see the reaction, how people agree with them.
Like insane stuff.
bridget phetasy
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Like my toddler, I could tell when my toddler was trans when they were three days old.
bridget phetasy
And people agree with them.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Jump right in.
bridget phetasy
Don't you think we're all in echo chambers, though, like you said?
How do you stay outside of yours?
joe rogan
Drugs.
unidentified
Oh, that's true.
That helps a lot.
joe rogan
No, I'm kidding.
You just gotta be recognized like you're thinking.
You have to have a process.
bridget phetasy
What's your process?
I live by the Joe Rogan School of Internetting.
How's that?
I take all your advice.
I don't read the comments, and I post and ghost.
joe rogan
That's good.
bridget phetasy
I don't, like, get in there and...
joe rogan
That's good.
I definitely do that.
And then I think of like, what do I really think about something and why do I think about it that way?
And I try to go, is it because it's self-serving?
Is it because I've said it in the past that I want to be right?
What is it?
What makes me believe what I believe?
And then you have to do a deep dive and all the goddamn arguments back and forth to figure out who's right.
All the logic and see people ignoring certain core facts.
This is the most fascinating thing about this USAID thing to me, is how people on the left are completely ignoring all the rampant, obvious corruption and conflicts of interest in the government funding non-government organizations that in turn fund the government.
That's so crazy.
And anybody that doesn't think that's crazy, it's like, what do you love?
Money influencing everything in your daily life?
Do you think that maybe we have a problem in that we have a huge deficit?
Part of our huge deficit?
We're spending fucking billions of dollars every year on horse shit?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
I mean, that is my issue with people being like, see, it is the political thing isn't right, which is true.
It's important to be accurate, but it's also like, yeah, but this money shouldn't be spent this way.
So just because this thing is maybe not true, you're pointing to this one thing that people are misrepresenting, but there's a much bigger problem you seem to want to just sweep under the rug.
Oh, you guys are just crazy for noticing all these connections.
But didn't they make them stop or something?
Did they freeze their ability?
joe rogan
Yeah, USA's frozen.
bridget phetasy
These kids are nuts.
That guy who found the scroll, how to read the scroll from Pompeii.
joe rogan
Burnt scrolls from Pompeii.
Yeah, using AI. Yeah.
No, they're wizards.
That's the kind of people that you want digging into this stuff.
And that's why Elon got them.
He knows what the fuck he's doing.
It's all very strange because it's...
You're dealing with so many things that are happening at the same time.
You have this technology that was never available before that is allowing people to freely express themselves online, right?
And then you have this maniac billionaire who buys the biggest one and makes it the Wild West again.
And then you have government being exposed for what it is.
So you have all these fucking NGOs, this web of—we talked about it yesterday—this web of 55,000 different NGOs that were supporting all these liberal causes that were all— Completely intertwined and they had to use software to find that and figure it out.
They're finding out that this is like this complicated propaganda network that existed.
That's not good.
That's not good for anybody, left or right.
Because it's money.
It's just money being used in a way.
Not only that, here's the thing.
People say the $10 billion.
It's only $10 billion.
That kind of shit.
What about the fucking people in Maui?
That could have been fixed with $5 billion.
The government could have said, we are going to rebuild those people's homes to the exact state and even better than where they were before.
It's going to cost us $5 billion.
All the money that we're sending over to Ukraine, all the money that we send to Israel, all the money we send to all these different organizations that work with USAID in the tune of billions and billions and billions of dollars.
They could have done that.
And instead of doing that, they're telling us that what we have to do is continue to fund all these programs in all these other countries that just so conveniently have a whole staff of people that's making a great wage and their political capital is bet on all this stuff and it all is involved with intertwined with these NGOs and all this money they're getting.
And this is the thing.
We have to go and help these people.
We're going to starve.
They're going to do this.
They're going to do that.
What about America?
Our tax dollars going into a safety net to help people from one of the worst wildfires in history.
bridget phetasy
Or North Carolina.
joe rogan
Or North Carolina.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Exactly the same thing.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Apparently, none of those people have gotten any money in North Carolina.
bridget phetasy
No, and they're like sleeping in freaking tents in the freezing cold.
joe rogan
Exactly.
All that could have been addressed, too.
The same way we address problems in other countries.
So if you have this amazing slush fund that USAID is, and it's not being applied at all to the problems of America, why would you think people would support it?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why would we support it with our tax dollars when we know that the country is massively in debt?
bridget phetasy
Well, and it's like, I appreciate that there are so many problems.
I think people, I do feel like for the first time ever, there is an actual transfer of power.
Like every single election through my lifetime, it's been, there's been all the normal fighting between the two parties and then the election.
It happens, and one party wins, and then nothing changes.
And you just keep sliding and sliding and sliding and sliding, and everybody says they're going to do something, and no one does anything.
And then you have fucking Elon come in like a wrecking ball, and a very motivated Trump, who seems organized this time, and they actually feel like they're making changes.
Changes that, by the way, American people want.
joe rogan
The border.
They fixed the border overnight.
bridget phetasy
Overnight.
My friend Max Meyer was saying, he's a very smart guy, he was saying no one with any numerical ability has ever looked into Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
Ever.
joe rogan
That's what they're cracking into next.
bridget phetasy
There's a lot of money there that is provider-side fraud, where it's just inflated.
joe rogan
Wasn't that Sonny Hostin's husband?
Isn't he involved in a RICO lawsuit?
bridget phetasy
Oh, I don't know.
joe rogan
About insurance fraud?
bridget phetasy
The View person?
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I have no idea.
joe rogan
Her husband got arrested.
bridget phetasy
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's one of 200 people charged in some gigantic insurance fraud.
bridget phetasy
There's a lot of that.
joe rogan
What is that?
What's the actual story behind that?
Jamie's looking.
bridget phetasy
Jamie's on it.
He's on it.
Yeah, but they can take it.
I mean, you know how complicated it would be to try and...
Untangle that web of where you're inflating things that people have and you're saying this is like a band.
You see these things online where it's like a band-aid is $25,000, you know?
joe rogan
Someone explained that to me too, is that when you have a budget, say if you run an organization and it has a budget, you get money from the government and that budget's like $80 million a year, you can't spend $60 million because then you're going to get $60 million next year.
You have to spend all $80 million.
If you don't spend all $80 million, you don't get $80 million.
You've got to say, we need $90 million.
We're barely hanging on.
So you have to charge like $500,000 for a hammer.
And that's literally how they justify their existence.
They're not in the business of being frugal and being responsible and making sure that the money is being spent competently.
No, they're in the business of keeping their budget coming in.
Sonny Host and surgeon husband Emanuel faces solo battle in lawsuit as co-defendants agree to settle.
Oh, Jesus.
So, okay.
Johnny Hostin's surgeon husband has found himself in the hot seat in a massive lawsuit accusing nearly 200 healthcare providers of insurance fraud.
Dr. Emanuel Hostin defiantly called himself the victim of a frivolous smear campaign last month after he was accused of providing fraudulent medical services in exchange for kickbacks in a complaint filed by American Transit Insurance Company in December.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Taxi Company and Uger Lyft drivers announced last Monday more than 141 of the 186 defendants named in the suit have agreed in principle to settle one of the largest RICO cases ever filed in New York.
The papers filed by the law firm Manning Cass did not specify which defendants offered to settle.
Dr. Hostin has until February 10 to respond to the legal complaint.
So it has something to do with drives from the hospital and kickbacks from all this shit.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, because that's what they need, though, is these guys who can use this AI technology to get in there and start looking on a massive scale at what all of these, everything.
I mean, they have to look at everything.
I think most Americans want this.
joe rogan
So they're being accused of getting kickbacks for performing surgeries and submitting fraudulent bills.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hostin knowingly provided, this is in quotes, knowingly provided fraudulent medical and other health care services, including orthoscopic surgeries.
The lawsuit filed on December 17th claims American Transit was then billed in exchange for kickbacks and or other compensation which were disguised as dividends or other cash distribution.
I don't know how they know this, so I don't want to comment on this.
I don't really understand what this is.
This might be bullshit.
It might be real.
But I do know that doctors...
bridget phetasy
But this happens all the time.
I mean, maybe not this, but there's provider-side fraud that is very well-known, and people have been called out for it.
joe rogan
There's a doctor that I was just watching this whole thing on where he...
I think it was 200 people he treated, it might have been more, that did not have cancer.
And he gave them chemotherapy.
bridget phetasy
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He falsely diagnosed them as having cancer and then treated them for cancer.
Yeah, and some of them got really sick and died.
bridget phetasy
Well, yeah, it's chemo.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's chemo.
It's fucking killing you.
And it wrecks your health, so even if you survive it, like, your body's wrecked for a long time afterwards.
bridget phetasy
And did he do this just for money?
joe rogan
For money, yeah.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And his argument was that this term that they always use, you eat what you kill, and that you have to, like...
You have to have a business.
You have to keep your business rolling.
So his business was making sure that people thought they had cancer and then treating them for cancer.
bridget phetasy
That's dark.
joe rogan
Well, cancer and chemotherapy is one of those weird ones where the doctors profit off of each chemotherapy.
bridget phetasy
Oh, do they?
joe rogan
Yeah.
$34 million in fraudulent...
A Detroit-area hematologist-oncologist was sentenced today to serve 45 years in prison for his role in a healthcare fraud scheme that included administrating medically unnecessary infusions or injections to, oh, it's 553 individual patients, and submitting to Medicare and private insurance companies approximately $34 million in fraudulent claims.
bridget phetasy
This is the fucking sickest thing I've ever heard!
unidentified
It's horrible.
bridget phetasy
You tell these people they have cancer?
joe rogan
I know, right?
bridget phetasy
And make them get chemo?
joe rogan
I know.
bridget phetasy
This is insane.
I can't believe I've never heard of this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's really crazy.
bridget phetasy
It's like a decade ago.
Wow.
This is fucking nuts.
How did they catch him?
joe rogan
I don't know.
bridget phetasy
That's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
No, that's so sick.
joe rogan
I know people that have told me that they know people that have done surgeries that were unnecessary.
Just for money.
They want money.
bridget phetasy
Well, that's like the whole trans care.
Oh, yeah.
Not just that.
joe rogan
Orthopedic surgeries.
bridget phetasy
Back surgeries and stuff?
joe rogan
Doctors that won't let someone try stem cells?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
That try to deny people stem cells?
bridget phetasy
So...
Yeah, the back surgery thing is weird, too.
joe rogan
Well, it can help some people, but it's not the only solution, and there's other ways to fix your back.
I always tell people there's a lot of different ways to fix back issues.
I've had back issues.
I didn't have surgery.
I was told to have surgery.
I had a bulging disc in my neck.
I was told that I had to have a disectomy.
I did not.
My neck is perfect.
It works great now.
bridget phetasy
How did you fix it?
joe rogan
I did Regenikine.
Regenikine is...
It's like a very advanced form of platelet-rich plasma that used to have to go to Germany to get.
I remember Peyton Manning and Kobe Bryant and those guys, they flew to Germany to get this procedure done.
And Dana White did it too.
And then they opened up a place in Santa Monica where you could do it in Santa Monica.
And I had it done.
I had it done on my back.
I had it done on my neck.
It's amazing.
They take your blood.
They spin it in a centrifuge.
I forget what the exact process they do.
And then they pull out this liquid that is the most...
It's the most potent anti-inflammatory inflammation drug that you could ever find.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
So this anti-inflammation drug, it's made out of your own blood, so your body doesn't reject it, this process that they do.
And then they inject it in the areas around the discs, and the discs all settled, and they went right back into place.
bridget phetasy
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I had it done on my lower back, I had it done on my upper back, and I had it done on my neck.
bridget phetasy
See, I think that this is where I'm excited about AI and stuff like that.
It would be exciting to have AI cure cancer.
Which they think that it might be able to do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I saw that Larry Ellison thing.
I was like, yeah, are you making money doing this?
bridget phetasy
Well, obviously.
I don't know if Larry...
Is Larry Ellison saying that?
unidentified
Why is he doing that?
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah, he did.
joe rogan
Like, why are you doing that?
Are you a doctor?
Don't you own Lanai?
What are you doing?
But I don't see...
bridget phetasy
It seems like it's not outside the realm of possibility that AI would get smart enough to figure this shit out.
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah.
It is possible.
For sure.
And it's very hopeful.
But, you know, I don't know if we should be telling people that it could do that maybe in the future, so invest in my company or whatever the fuck's going on, you know?
bridget phetasy
I was at this crazy boondoggle, and I saw a bunch of these people talk, and everybody was clapping, and I was like, this is the scariest shit I've ever heard.
And I think it might have been Sam who was talking to Altman, and everybody was just like, yay, let's give them money!
And they all just saw money.
Everyone sees money here.
The gold hills.
I mean, we're going to need to build nuclear.
We're going to need to power this shit.
There's a lot of gold in those hills.
And I was in the back with this guy, and I'm like, someone needs to stop it.
joe rogan
It's the beginning of a terminating moment.
bridget phetasy
It chills down my spine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's going to happen, though.
bridget phetasy
You can't stop it.
joe rogan
No.
bridget phetasy
Unless the grid goes down, like, or something, unless there is something catastrophic, asteroid hits the Earth, whatever, which I think there might be one coming, there is, there's nothing we can do.
unidentified
Nope.
bridget phetasy
The genie's out of the bottle.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
We have to do it because there's other people that are doing it.
And if they get a hold of it first, it's over.
bridget phetasy
Ah, that's the race to the bottom.
joe rogan
Is it?
I don't know.
I mean, if we all have it, it eventually works for humanity instead of against us.
bridget phetasy
My husband thinks that our daughter will never need to learn how to drive.
joe rogan
Probably.
bridget phetasy
He's like, she's not going to need...
Because I was like, she wants to drive already.
She's like, when I'm five, I can drive.
I'm like, no.
She is, having kids is the best.
I hate that there was so much rhetoric that I was growing up with about like how horrible it is because it is, yeah.
joe rogan
It's all by people who don't have kids.
bridget phetasy
But it's so, it is, the other morning I go downstairs and she's like, I'm like, how you doing?
She's eating her breakfast.
She's like, I just need to lay low.
unidentified
I was like, are we hiding from the mob?
bridget phetasy
What is happening?
joe rogan
They're experimenting with news ways to talk.
bridget phetasy
They're just so funny.
She just says the funniest stuff.
My husband sent me a whole thing.
They pick up everything.
She was like, I'm going to Mothership, and you're going to go to New York.
I'm like, where'd she get the New York accent from?
I'm going to Mothership, and you're going to New York to tell jokes.
She's telling him all about this.
I'm like, how does she pick all this?
It's the best thing in the whole world, but yeah, he doesn't think she wants to drive, and he's like, she's not going to need to know how to drive.
joe rogan
Well, she probably will learn how to drive, but it won't be necessary.
I think they're going to make the argument that autonomous driving is way safer.
bridget phetasy
But I think it probably is.
joe rogan
Oh, it is?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
Yeah, I have auto drive on my Tesla.
But they all have to be autonomous.
joe rogan
Yes.
bridget phetasy
It can't be...
unidentified
Exactly.
bridget phetasy
No one's going to be allowed to drive.
joe rogan
That's probably what's going to happen.
bridget phetasy
That's the only way.
They're all going to be communicating with each other and it's like...
joe rogan
There'll probably be roads that are set up where you can allow people to drive.
bridget phetasy
How do you feel about that?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I like cars.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I do too.
unidentified
So it's not good.
joe rogan
I like old cars too.
bridget phetasy
I like driving.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do.
bridget phetasy
It helps my brain.
Unfurl.
joe rogan
Well, I like machines.
I'm into old machines.
I like the way they work.
bridget phetasy
Do you know how to fix cars?
joe rogan
I know how to fix some things, but not really.
I mean, I know how to change spark plugs and change oil.
Like basics?
Yeah, normal stuff.
But most cars don't even have spark plugs anymore.
bridget phetasy
No, it's weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all...
It's wild.
You open up the back of a Porsche.
Look at the engine.
You're like, what the fuck is that?
bridget phetasy
And Teslas only have one gear?
I don't understand how that even...
joe rogan
Have you ever been in one?
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
bridget phetasy
I didn't bring mine today.
No, I have been in one.
Oh, wait.
joe rogan
Next time I have mine, you got to go for a ride.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mine's insane.
bridget phetasy
The new one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds.
bridget phetasy
That's nuts.
joe rogan
It's a time machine.
bridget phetasy
How does it do that?
joe rogan
Because it has 1,000 horsepower and four-wheel drive and incredible electrical engines that just instantly generate torque and power.
bridget phetasy
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It just takes off.
They're amazing.
And it also self-drives.
It doesn't just self-drive.
It changes lanes.
It stops for stop signs.
It stops for red lights.
It turns.
It's incredible.
It changes lanes when there's obstructions in front of it.
bridget phetasy
Can you take your eyes off the...
Can you, like, text and stuff?
Can you be a passenger?
joe rogan
You could, I guess.
People have fallen asleep at the wheel, famously.
bridget phetasy
But don't they give you, like, strikes or something like that?
Like, Tesla itself will...
joe rogan
Yeah, supposedly if you're not looking...
bridget phetasy
That's kind of creepy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's creepy.
Yeah, it's all creepy.
But if you want to do it right, that's how you have to do it.
You can't just let people take naps and just press the...
Press play.
bridget phetasy
But isn't that the point?
I want to be in my car typing.
joe rogan
Well, eventually you'll be able to do that.
Eventually it won't even have a steering wheel.
Eventually it'll be a pod that you get in and it takes you places.
bridget phetasy
This reminds me of that Silicon Valley episode where the self-driving car drives right into one of the shipping containers and then he's just stuck in a shipping container.
joe rogan
I didn't see that.
bridget phetasy
Oh, it's so good.
joe rogan
I've never watched that show.
bridget phetasy
That show is brilliant.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
But again, if you go back to the people that were on trains and riding horses, and you say, one day, you're going to be able to get in a car that goes 1.9 seconds, zero to 60, and it's going to be electric and make no sound.
You'd be like, what?
Well, one day, you're not going to need to steer, because steering is why people get fucked up, because the cars can't detect other cars around them.
They change lanes.
People make mistakes.
They go forward when they shouldn't.
They run red lights.
All that's going to end.
bridget phetasy
Every time I drive to and from, almost every time there's an accident, I always see.
joe rogan
Sure.
bridget phetasy
The other night I was driving home, actually from Mothership, it was like 1.30 in the morning, and there was a guy on the left side of the freeway walking.
Yeah.
There's no space, by the way.
I was like, what is happening right now?
joe rogan
People are texting and not paying attention.
bridget phetasy
No, there are trucks behind me.
It was nuts.
I was like, this guy is either on drugs and crazy or it's some Jason Bourne situation where he was limping.
joe rogan
He probably broke down and had to walk.
bridget phetasy
No, he looked crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy person, decided to flirt with death.
bridget phetasy
I mean, Texas is a little...
It feels a little unhinged.
joe rogan
Does it?
unidentified
Compared to LA? When was the last time you were back in LA? No, I mean, I was just there.
bridget phetasy
I was there two days before the fires.
joe rogan
People are unhinged.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
No, I mean, it feels a little wild, like I like it.
joe rogan
And as you get older, and you realize it's not going to get any better?
bridget phetasy
I like the...
I like the...
It makes...
I'm coming up on two years here.
joe rogan
So what do you mean by wild?
bridget phetasy
It feels wild to me.
It still feels very, like...
The Wild West, or like Texas, there's just an energy here of kind of, every time I'm down on 6th Street, I'm like, I'm going to catch a stray down here.
joe rogan
Well, 6th Street is wild.
Where the club is, that's a wild place.
bridget phetasy
It's fucking bonkers down there!
joe rogan
Yeah, but that also makes the club exciting.
bridget phetasy
You might catch a stray while you're waiting.
joe rogan
No, not that, but all the people, the foot traffic, you know, there's an energy on that street.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, no, I like it.
Even coming from LA, driving in Texas, I was like, these people are out of their fucking minds because it's so much bigger.
It's like 80 miles an hour speed limits everywhere out where I am.
So everyone's actually doing 90. And I would be driving and they're like, get out of the way, grandmas!
I'm like, I'm doing fucking 85. It's not like I'm going slow.
joe rogan
Are you in the left lane?
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
No?
bridget phetasy
I'd be in the middle lane.
joe rogan
And they're still trying to get you out of the way?
unidentified
Yeah!
bridget phetasy
I was a grandma.
I had to up my game.
joe rogan
Well, didn't you see that in L.A. too?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but it was always like street racing kids, like maybe out further.
How often could you get your car to 80 miles an hour driving around LA? At nighttime.
I mean at night.
joe rogan
I'd see a lot of people driving super fast at night in LA. More unhinged people, I think.
bridget phetasy
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because I would see people driving recklessly on the 101. Like when I was coming home from the store sometimes, I'd be like, what the fuck?
bridget phetasy
That's me going home though.
I don't know.
It's pretty nuts.
joe rogan
Well, when people live a half an hour away from the city and they want to get home quick, that's how you do it.
bridget phetasy
Now it's me.
unidentified
Now I'm the one who's doing 95. Well, it's those people, too.
bridget phetasy
No, it's true.
I don't know.
I'm glad I moved here.
I remember you saying it feels...
My husband's blood pressure actually went down when he moved here.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's less people.
bridget phetasy
But it's also just like everything is less of a battle.
You said it to me, I think, like you felt like you could exhale on one of our, like when you were talking, you were like, I moved there and just felt like, I can like breathe a little.
And I mean, my husband has like scientific evidence that he, his whole like energy field got more chill.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not supposed to be living in a place that has 20 million people.
I think it's bad for you.
bridget phetasy
Have you ever been to Cairo?
joe rogan
No.
bridget phetasy
Cairo.
Nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
It's the craziest city I've ever been in.
joe rogan
I want to go.
When you went to the pyramids, when was it?
How long ago?
bridget phetasy
Oh my gosh.
It was crazy.
It was right after the revolution.
So we went in 20...
It was 20...
It was 2000...
When was the Arab Spring?
joe rogan
That was internet times.
bridget phetasy
It was 20...
unidentified
2011?
bridget phetasy
12, I want to say.
2011, 2012. What's that?
joe rogan
2010, Arab Spring?
So it must have been 2011. That was one of the first revolutions that the internet was credited with starting.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and no one was there.
So everyone was like, why the fuck are you guys in Egypt?
We got basically a private tour of the whole country.
We were on a cruise on the Nile and it was supposed to be hundreds of people.
There were 14 people on the cruise.
And we got to see, there's usually lines to go into the Great Pyramids.
There were no lines, no lines to see King Tut.
There was, no one was anywhere.
It was a weird time to be in Egypt.
And we saw, I went to Alexandria, was in Cairo, went and did like a Nile cruise, which was amazing.
Egypt's, you gotta go.
joe rogan
Yeah, I definitely do.
Did you get this weird feeling?
How did this go away?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that's what I don't understand.
I think I had a mental breakdown when I was there.
We were in the hospital.
Not the hospital.
I felt like I should get checked into a hospital.
We were staying in the Nile across from all the tombs, the king's tombs.
And I kept feeling this pulse, and I had a panic attack when I was there, basically.
It was the weirdest thing, though.
I kept feeling this pulse.
It was like, womp, womp.
joe rogan
Was this when you were doing drugs before?
bridget phetasy
No.
I was drinking still, but I wasn't doing drugs.
I thought I was going to end up in a straitjacket.
I had a panic attack.
I had these crazy dreams.
I was like, oh, this is where it all started for my whatever.
It was fucking...
It's weird.
It's a weird energy.
joe rogan
Do you think you were getting this feeling like you said, like here, it's in the soil.
There's something in the soil here, like this fierce independence because these people are tough and they survived making it across the Great Plains and all that shit.
Do you think you felt that there, like this is the feeling of this civilization that used to exist in this place?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it felt to me...
I feel like I had like a past life regression, if that's even a thing.
It was like, I felt like whatever journey I've been on, on this planet, it started there.
And I went back to the source and it was like a weird, like my dreams were crazy.
It was, I couldn't, thank God the guy I was with was like.
Nice and kind, but I couldn't...
It was like a full-blown panic attack.
I couldn't even leave the hotel room.
joe rogan
And do you think that's just because of being in Egypt?
bridget phetasy
It was just being in Egypt.
joe rogan
Do you think it's because you knew what the civilization was like and it had declined and gone and now you're there and you're just psychologically dealing with this and you're kind of freaking out and putting it on yourself?
bridget phetasy
So they had...
They had...
I have always been obsessed with Egypt since I was a little kid.
Just unnaturally obsessed with it.
It was like I read every book about it when I was a kid.
I wanted to go there.
I don't know why.
And I felt like, you know, I like to believe in past lives because I think it's amusing.
I'm like, if I can choose, it sounds like a fun...
It's like, why not?
And I've always felt very connected to it.
And so when I went there and was across from, we were in the King Farouk suite, actually, and it had a balcony that overlooked the Nile and the tombs.
And it was, I could feel, it was like something in my heart, like a vibration.
And they've said that these places, like, where there are these pyramids, they can have vibrations.
I'll learn this later.
But this was like a weird, like...
It kept hitting my heart and then I thought they drugged me.
I thought they gave me something in my hibiscus tea because I started like, I immediately, I drank the hibiscus tea and I was like, maybe they put some kind of like hallucinogen in it.
But I think I just, I like, I think about this a lot because I've had friends who have had anxiety and panic attacks and I know what it's like to like get in your head and feel like you're losing your mind and I had to baby step my way out of this like, Panic attack where I couldn't eat.
I was unable to keep food down.
I just took a bath and was like, I'm going to just chew.
joe rogan
That's never happened to you before?
bridget phetasy
No.
I feel for people who have anxiety.
I had anxiety before, but it was when I was smoking a lot of weed and doing a lot of drugs and I was in a marriage I didn't want to be in to my first husband.
joe rogan
So your life was a mess?
bridget phetasy
And I just was lying to myself.
I think it...
I think depression and anxiety can be very useful signposts for something in your life.
You're either doing something you shouldn't be doing or you're not doing something you should be doing.
joe rogan
You got a course correct.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's giving you motivation.
bridget phetasy
Or it's saying like there's something, it's like a soul calling for you to check in.
So yoga kind of saved me from that time.
I got divorced.
It somewhat went away.
I've talked about my hypochondria, so I dealt with that.
But then this was different.
It was like a weird...
My body physiologically reacted to it, too.
So I, like, not to be too much information, but I, like, randomly got a period out of nowhere.
It was just weird.
My body started, like, I threw up.
I got a period all at once.
And it was such a...
It's like...
It's the most supernatural thing that's ever happened to me.
Well...
There was another time that was really supernatural when I was in Newport, Rhode Island, and I swear there was, like, a haunting.
But other than that, this was, it felt supernatural.
Like, it didn't feel normal, and it took me two full days to, like, whatever hit me in my heart on that balcony, and I couldn't, like, all I could hear was this, like, want, want, and it was reverberating from the...
I sound like a crazy person, but it was reverberating from the tombs.
And then I would just, I remember eating a grape so slowly and mindfully just to like come back into my body.
And I had these like crazy dreams and I felt like I saw all these connections, like people in my life present.
And it was, it was really, it was weird.
It was in that moment when I like.
Had a physical reaction where it was like a scene from a movie where it was like, zap, zap, zap, zap, zap, like all these people in my life.
And the guy I was with, thank God, he could have been a total asshole and been like, you're a fucking psycho, I'm leaving you.
But he had had a weird experience with me in his guest house in New Zealand where I would fall asleep sometimes downstairs or we'd pass out or whatever.
And I was like, did you have a dog?
Because I was, like, convinced there was a ghost because I kept feeling some weird sense.
And he's like, don't talk about the dog.
And then it turns out there was, like, a dog.
And his kids, like, he had it and then wanted to get rid of it.
And so it's like this sore thing.
He's like, how the fuck did you know it was a dog?
And I was like, oh, because the energy was like a puppy energy.
And I was like, what happened to the dog?
He's like, nothing.
Don't ever talk about the dog.
And I was like, okay.
So he's like, you're weird and psychic and, like, a weird thing.
He was like, you're touched by something.
And we used to play backgammon all the time, and one time I rolled a dice, and I'm sure it was just lint, but I wanted to win so badly, and then the dice just was on his corner, just frozen.
So he had weird, like, just on the tip of it, just like, he's like, what the fuck?
You're a witch.
So he had slightly unsettling things with me, enough that I think he was like, alright, maybe she's not.
Totally.
joe rogan
Well, they say that places have memory, right?
bridget phetasy
This place...
I mean, Egypt is so special.
joe rogan
I haven't been, obviously, but I felt weird when I went to Chichen Itza.
That feels very weird.
bridget phetasy
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I had to...
I was, like, baby-stepping.
I still get slightly, like...
And my life has never been the same really since.
Like, it was...
And Egypt is...
Cairo's bonkers, but Egypt is the Nile.
I remember just cruising down the Nile and being on the deck, and you can feel what it was like.
You're just like, this is what...
joe rogan
The memory.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
And the tombs are all very...
It's very...
I don't know.
It was very spiritual for me.
It was like a very...
I felt like a pilgrimage that I didn't know I was taking.
That's how it felt to me.
joe rogan
Look, it makes sense.
It was the most sophisticated civilization maybe ever in terms of their building.
bridget phetasy
You have to go.
I feel like you would love it.
joe rogan
No, I would love it.
No, I just don't have the time.
I almost did it with Mr. Beast.
He went in December.
bridget phetasy
Oh, did he?
joe rogan
I was going to try to do it and do it with him.
He wanted to do a podcast there, but I just couldn't make it happen.
I'm too busy.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and it's a hike.
joe rogan
Yeah, I need to take like...
A good solid couple weeks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go there.
It needs to be something that I know that I'm going to be there for a couple weeks.
And right now that's not really possible.
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
bridget phetasy
I mean...
joe rogan
I went to visit the site of the Illusinian Mysteries and I was with Brian Mirorescu.
bridget phetasy
Where's that?
joe rogan
It's in Greece.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
And that was wild.
bridget phetasy
Really?
joe rogan
That was wild.
That place has a memory.
For sure.
Yeah, just like touching the walls, like it just feels weird.
You just feel like this is different, like you're in the presence of something.
Very strange.
bridget phetasy
That was Egypt.
joe rogan
Whatever the energy, I bet Egypt was probably even more incredible, but whatever the energy of that place was, there's some of it left there.
There's some weird intangible feeling that's left there that just makes you feel very, very strange.
bridget phetasy
When I was in L.A. at the Getty Villa, I always go there, and they had the Thrace exhibit.
joe rogan
What's that?
bridget phetasy
Thrace is like a...
I didn't know anything about it.
It's a civilization that was like...
Partially in Bulgaria.
I think it came after ancient Greece.
There it is.
joe rogan
Treasures from Bulgaria, Romania, and Greece.
bridget phetasy
This statue is fucking insane.
It looks like it's looking at you.
joe rogan
Look at the eyes.
bridget phetasy
It's insane.
It is insane to see it in real life.
This exhibit that's there right now is truly one of the most special exhibits I've ever seen.
I go to all of them that I can there.
And that is...
joe rogan
Look at that face.
bridget phetasy
That's amazing.
It's crazy.
And I knew nothing about this civilization and society.
And the more I learn about it, the more obsessed I am.
But all of this stuff had its own...
Like when the fires were around the villa, I was like, oh God, I hope that they're...
I hope that...
That all this stuff is okay, yeah.
I mean, those walls are, like, fireproof and they've got...
joe rogan
I'd never heard of this before.
bridget phetasy
I'd never even really heard of Thrace.
You know, I've always been very obsessed with, like, Greek mythology, Roman history, all of these things, but Thrace is this crazy civilization.
joe rogan
Look at the relief with two Thracians.
bridget phetasy
I want to see if I have the...
That's crazy.
Yeah, if you're back in L.A., I think that exhibit is there until March.
March 3rd, I believe?
jamie vernon
Maybe it says temporarily closed on top.
I don't know if it's because of the fires.
joe rogan
Probably.
bridget phetasy
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think the Getty's temporarily closed.
jamie vernon
The Gettyville will remain closed until further notice.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
bridget phetasy
I thought they reopened for some reason, but yeah, they must still be closed from the fires.
joe rogan
Someday someone's going to be doing that with the World Trade Center.
They're going to be wandering around that.
This is where they used to live.
They used to go to school here.
They used to work in these buildings.
That's going to happen.
Yeah, the same way we go through the Acropolis in the Parthenon and wander around and imagine what it was like living back then.
People are going to do that with us.
Every civilization collapses.
We're just trying to hold this one off as much as we can.
And they usually last a couple hundred years, which is ours.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, we're pretty young.
joe rogan
Yeah, but a lot of them haven't made it past where we got to.
bridget phetasy
It always reminds me of that Porno for Pyro song.
We'll make the pets.
It's like, my friend says we're like the dinosaurs and here we are doing ourselves in much faster than they ever did.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's real.
bridget phetasy
The dinosaurs?
joe rogan
No.
The other thing, we're doing ourselves in faster than them.
No, they get hit by a rock.
bridget phetasy
I was like, oh no.
We're coming to dangerous territory where we find out Joe doesn't believe in dinosaurs.
joe rogan
We were talking about Candace Owens last night.
Candace Owens said dinosaurs are fake and gay.
bridget phetasy
Is that what she says?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know what she means by that.
She might just be having fun.
This whole Bridget McCrone thing, though, is crazy.
bridget phetasy
Did you watch any of it?
joe rogan
No!
No.
No, I got no time.
But I did see a comparison to the photographs of the person that she's claiming is actually, you know, like the brother.
bridget phetasy
Oh, the brother.
Didn't the brother disappear or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, the brother disappeared.
And the brother literally looks exactly like her.
bridget phetasy
I mean, to a fucking T. She was kind of on the Blake and Ryan thing, too, I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
She's a sleuthin'.
She's been a sleuthin'.
joe rogan
Look at these.
bridget phetasy
Okay, that's pretty freaking weird.
joe rogan
I'll send it to Jamie.
Because this is, I mean, she's just going all in.
First of all, I don't even know if this is a real picture.
I mean, this easily could be some AI bullshit that somebody created to try to pretend that the brother is actually her.
But the brother is, like, not to be found.
If that's real...
See, I don't know if that's real.
bridget phetasy
That can't be real.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's real because, I mean, even the fucking teeth are the same.
Like, everything's the same.
Every wrinkle of the face is the same.
If that was my brother, if my brother looked, I'd be like, wait a minute, we're not twins?
So we're not twins.
Like, what?
jamie vernon
It looks photoshopped.
The mouth definitely looks photoshopped.
joe rogan
How so?
jamie vernon
Because, like you said, the teeth are exact.
joe rogan
Yeah, exact.
In the exact position, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're not even almost...
joe rogan
Right, it looks fake.
It looks like somebody doctored up, somebody used AI. Same cracks in the lips.
jamie vernon
Right here.
joe rogan
Pretty much, right?
That's probably bullshit.
jamie vernon
That mouth is photoshopped.
joe rogan
Yeah, so you can't tell what's real and what's not real online anymore.
bridget phetasy
Nothing's real!
Nothing.
joe rogan
You literally can't tell.
bridget phetasy
You have to operate from the idea that this is not real.
You have to start there now.
joe rogan
Right, but also this is just the beginning.
What are we going to be looking at five years from now?
We're going to be looking at indescribable experiences that are indistinguishable from reality.
Not just images, but you're going to be able to have experiences that aren't real.
bridget phetasy
Do you think that the Metaverse thing is going to take off?
Like people are going to be plugging in?
joe rogan
Yeah, if it gets good enough.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and cheap enough because it's kind of expensive.
joe rogan
It's expensive and it's also weird to have something in your face.
People feel weird like wearing this big clunky thing.
But if you can sit down and attach something to your head and then all of a sudden you're in another world, you're an avatar flying on a fucking dragon.
We're gonna do it.
bridget phetasy
I mean, it sounds...
Isn't, like, Redman really into that?
unidentified
Oh, loves it.
bridget phetasy
He's, like, famous in the metaverse.
joe rogan
He goes in there every night.
He has, like, parties and stuff.
He's a nut.
It's perfect for someone like him.
He's a video game guy, loves the internet.
bridget phetasy
Matt was telling me, you can do a Type 5 at a comedy club there.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Zuckerberg showed me that too.
There's a metaverse comedy club.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but he's like, you had to know people to get in, and he's famous.
I was like, it's nuts that this already exists to me.
joe rogan
Well, it's just the beginning.
That's Pong.
And whatever it's going to be like 20 years from now is going to be something really wild.
bridget phetasy
Isn't it weird to think that you might just exist forever in the metaverse talking?
Because you've done so many podcasts.
They'll just be able to cut and paste and make you kind of like...
joe rogan
Not even just that.
bridget phetasy
What if you're a god in the future?
joe rogan
Well, they'll be able to get a map of how I think and how I go over things and how I go, well, maybe not.
Let's look at that.
And then they'll apply that sort of thinking.
And they'll be able to do podcasts with me with anyone in history.
I'll be able to have a podcast with Albert Einstein.
bridget phetasy
I always think about this when I see the people who get tattoos of you.
I'm like...
Future civilizations are going to be like, who was this man?
He must have been someone important.
Maybe a shaman or a brahmin.
joe rogan
No, he's a bro cage-fighting commentator.
Yeah, me and Einstein.
Just chilling.
Look at him.
That's a young Einstein, too.
jamie vernon
I was looking into this.
They can already do it.
bridget phetasy
What?
joe rogan
Let me hear this.
jamie vernon
They don't have their voices.
joe rogan
Oh, they don't have their voices.
jamie vernon
But I've seen one where they did.
joe rogan
Oh, Nikola Tesla.
Ooh, I'd love to have a podcast with him.
They already did a podcast with me and Steve Jobs.
bridget phetasy
Did they?
joe rogan
Yeah, an audio one.
An audio podcast with me and Steve Jobs.
It's crude.
You can kind of tell that it's not real.
But that's just because it's, you know, first generation.
bridget phetasy
That's really weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We've got to wrap this up, Bridget.
Thank you very much, my friend.
Always great to see you.
bridget phetasy
Thank you for having me.
joe rogan
Always a pleasure.
Tell everybody how to get your stuff, where to find you.
bridget phetasy
Just go to...
Go to my YouTube and subscribe.
That's the best thing you can do.
joe rogan
What's the YouTube?
bridget phetasy
It's Bridget Phetasy.
I don't even know my YouTube.
It's Phetasy.
P-H-E-T-A-S-Y. Dumpster Fire is the show.
Phetasy.com.
All that stuff is on your website.
Bridget Phetasy Online.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
You can find me.
joe rogan
All right, my friend.
Appreciate you.
bridget phetasy
Thank you.
unidentified
Bye.
Love you, too.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody.
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