Dr. Mark Gordon and Joe Rogan revisit brain inflammation’s role in PTSD, TBI, and neurodegenerative diseases, citing a retracted 2024 Alzheimer’s study costing billions in NIH funding due to fraudulent beta amyloid research. Gordon’s nutraceutical protocol—quercetin, DHA, peptides—showed 20% improvement in a boxer with dementia pugilistica, while Rogan questions Nixon’s 1970 Schedule I psychedelic ban as a missed societal opportunity. They pivot to controversial topics: trichinosis risks in black bears (New Jersey’s reinstated hunting), the Nazca mummies’ disputed authenticity amid a $300M legal battle, and Homo juliesis—a 200,000-year-old Asian human variant with oversized skulls. Rogan entertains fringe theories like interdimensional Bigfoot or DMT-induced UFO encounters, while Gordon speculates on hidden oceanic civilizations in trenches like the Mariana. The episode blends cutting-edge science, ecological debates, and unproven mysteries, leaving Rogan’s signature skepticism tangled with curiosity about consciousness and reality’s limits. [Automatically generated summary]
All three daughters have been married and each has a grandchild, which is making me feel old.
So I've ramped up, stepped up my hormonal treatment to keep me on edge because I want to be around a lot longer to take care of these kids or to be with the kids.
They're just 16 months, but they're still fantastic.
But in the world that I work in, in the medical arena, it's been expanding rapidly.
The new administration has a part to play in it, which is great.
But even before that, the number of results that we're having, the outcome from TBI, PTSD, and what have you, has been accelerating because of some of our testing that we do, as well as our treatment that we've initiated.
Well, we've added a lot more nootropic, excuse me, not nutraceuticals, natural products into our regiment.
You know, I spent 16 years looking at the science behind things that can get into the brain and alter the inflammation that occurs in the brain.
The whole premise of everything that I've been doing for the last 30 years has been based upon inflammation in the brain.
And the inflammation is what stops all the chemistry and why we develop that.
I don't know if you saw the article, which is called Influence of Media on the Mental Health of America, which used to be called the Trump Derangement Syndrome, but I got so much backlash from having that title.
People wouldn't read it because of the title.
And it talks about how constant stress from the media.
Echo chambers, social media, reading all this bullshit, causes cortisol to go up.
But I think one of the misperceptions is, as you said, and I apologize for that, is that we think it's all due to pituitary gland, but it isn't.
In the work that we've been doing, it shows that when you have inflammation in the brain, regardless of how it's developed, whether or not it's IED or slip and fall, or as we've talked in the past, even wave run.
Or ski-doos, or skiing, or water skiing, snow skiing, or going to the range, the.50 caliber gunners.
What happens is it creates this inflammation that shuts off the ability of the brain to regulate the pituitary gland.
So you can do all the MRIs as they do at the VA and they see a normal pituitary gland and says, oh, pituitary is normal.
You've got PTSD.
But there's no radiological or neuroradiological procedure that will allow you to look at inflammation in the brain.
So they assume they can't find any structural damage that it has to be all psychiatric.
Yeah, tau proteins, hyperphosphorated tau becomes these NFTs, these neurofibril tangles, which is an interesting issue.
It's been part of my last year of deep dive, trying to find out why is it that you develop CTE? Or the symptoms relative to CT. Why is it that you develop the symptoms relative to Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or multiple sclerosis?
Well, it turns out that the biochemistry is all the same.
Something called beta amyloid, which is the hallmark for someone with Alzheimer's disease.
And then these tau proteins, hyperphosphylated tau proteins that they call NFTs, that they circulate around the blood vessels.
And they create this intense inflammation.
And that intense inflammation causes loss of blood supply, damage to neurons.
And you develop it.
So we've had, using our protocol...
We have our sixth case of multiple sclerosis that was totally put into remission.
The other component has B1, B2, which deals with neurocommunication.
And then it's got PQQ and CoQ10.
PQQ is a form of CoQ10.
It's a sister.
A hundred to a thousand times stronger, but it's what it does.
It increases mitochondrial function.
I know you've had a lot of people here talking about mitochondrial function, and that's a major piece in how to reverse things like neurodegenerative diseases and improve mental functioning.
I mean, products like you have.
Like AlphaBrain, you know, has an effect on improving mitochondrial function.
And that's what you want to do.
That's a key.
So you have to drop the inflammation because inflammation causes mitochondria that produce ATP. It causes mitochondrial dysfunction.
So in all those neurodegenerative diseases, mitochondrial dysfunction has been ignored in the past.
And you need to address it.
So PQQ and CoQ10 are two very, very potent.
Added together, they stimulate mitochondrial ATP production and replication of mitochondria.
Quercetin, you were explaining to me before that it's an ionophore and that it gets ions into the bloodstream better, so it's when you consume it with zinc.
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Well, it works with SARS, and it works with influenza A and B. It works with rhinovirus and enterovirus, gut viruses, that you can get during summertime.
I do the quercetin twice a day, but zinc, because my levels are where they're at, I don't put a lot of zinc in because zinc's involved in about 300 processes in the body.
It's antiviral that we just talked about.
It's anti-Alzheimer's because it turns out that the production of The chemical called beta-amyloid, there's an enzyme that regulates it, and it's zinc-dependent.
So if it's working, it's called secretase.
It's called alpha-secretase.
It's zinc-dependent.
Beta-secretase is not.
So beta-secretase takes and makes the beta-amyloid that causes the Alzheimer's, the inflammation.
And with that inflammation, you then start getting the same thing in CTE. So in all these inflammatory conditions, they have the same beta amyloid and cause for CTE, the hyperphosphylated tau protein that we call NFTs, neurofibro tangles.
So they're all related.
So what quercetin does is it increases mitochondrial replication in about seven days, doubles the amount of mitochondria intracellularly.
It helps increase in the liver something called IGF binding protein 3, insulin-like binding protein 3. Binding protein 3 is always looked at as being the carrier for IGF-1, insulin-like growth factor, growth hormone.
Turns on in the liver, the production of insulin-like growth factor, which is the main below-the-neck growth factor for our body, improves protein synthesis, decreases inflammation, too.
When you're talking about beta amyloid and Alzheimer's, wasn't there a significant amount of fraud that was exposed about Alzheimer's studies that put into question a lot of the ideas that people had about Alzheimer's?
Well, you know that in – there are papers that have been written about reproducibility.
Reproducibility is where a researcher does a paper, makes a claim about the results of his science, and then people look at that and they want to go and reproduce it to prove it.
They found that 70% of them can't be reproduced.
And when you looked at the actual scientists who did the original work, goes back and tries to reproduce it, 7% failure rate.
So there are major publications that have talked about this reproducibility error.
I mean, you can go on to Google Scholar or else into Google and look at reproducibility.
A science investigation has now found that scores of his lab studies at UCSD and NIA are riddled with apparently falsified western blots.
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In our opinion, this pattern of anomalous data raises credible concern for research misconduct and calls into question a remarkably large body of scientific work.
And, you know, that's one of the problems that, you know, RFK Jr. will be generating, is that as he finds that this science is 70%, you can't reproduce it, meaning that it's maybe not accurate.
Also, in HIIT, in high-impact interval training and high-impact aerobics, what happens is you can increase a chemical in the brain called brain-derived neurotrophic factor, which is something that helps to improve neuron-to-neuron communication.
Neurology of your brain.
And I don't know if you saw, we have one of your favorite guys, Gerald McClellan.
I don't know if you've seen some of the papers that have come out.
He had a stroke in 95 fighting Nigel Benn in London.
And during that fight, it was a horrible fight if you've ever seen the...
He was hospitalized for 11 days in a coma in ICU in London.
Gets out.
His sister, Lisa McClellan, refuses to put him into a nursing home, into a hospice health.
Takes him into the house in Chicago and for 29 years dealt with him.
She develops an organization called Ring of Brotherhood where Muhammad Ali's niece and son, I think, are part of it.
And they take care of boxers who are leaving the ring who have symptoms, punch drunk or what do they call it, precox or pugilistic, dementia pugilistic.
Yeah.
And she contacted me and told me about her brother.
And I looked at stuff.
And what we did was we set up a fund and we paid for his laboratory work and his initial assessment.
And we found he was hormonally deficient.
So what we ended up doing is putting him on to the hormone replacement and to One of the peptides that we use, which is called Enosil C-Max, which stimulates the brain to produce more brain-derived neurotrophic factor.
He's in Chicago.
I'm in California or here in Texas, in Magnolia.
And one of our docs in Chicago took the lead.
I just gave her what to do.
He's 20% better in four months.
On the protocol.
He's now remembering things.
He's communicating.
He's on the phone.
And a boxing journalist, Oliver Fennell, came from London to Chicago and wrote a paper, which is called A Day in the Life of Gerald McClellan, and talks about what happened and where he's gone.
Especially when there's real evidence that there's not just anecdotal evidence that they work, but there's actual scientific evidence of their effectiveness.
It was about the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement.
And so one of the ways to get at these people, they knew that one of the big shifts of culture, if you go back to...
We talk about it ad nauseum on the podcast, but there's just a gigantic shift in culture from the 1950s to the 1960s.
It's almost unimaginable the amount of change that takes place.
And what you have to imagine as a person today is 2015. Now, you think in time, things accelerate even more rapidly and change is more exponential.
It's more crazy in time.
And it's kind of sort of true with some technologies, especially today with AI. But if you go back to 2015...
And if you were just driving around in 2015, everything is essentially the same.
The phones look pretty much the same.
The cars look pretty much the same.
There's not much difference.
There's not much difference in your life.
If you go from 1959 to 1969, you have a totally different fucking world.
You have a totally different world of culture, totally different world of movies, totally different world of music, totally different world of automobile design.
You have a totally different world that I believe is inspired by psychedelic drugs.
And when Nixon throws the water...
On the psychedelic movement in 1970 and makes them all schedule one, including things that aren't even psychoactive.
By the way, missed a bunch of really good ones.
Missed a bunch of really good ones that are still legal.
One of them was salvia, which is fucking bananas, an insanely potent psychedelic drug that was completely legal.
So if you look at it culturally...
You see this shift.
You see the movies get clunkier and goofy.
You see the cars start to look like shit.
You see the music starts to suck.
It starts to be like real frivolous and very surface.
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Luis, when I first met you, I was just basically taking multivitamins.
I wasn't really strict about it.
And then when you started doing blood work and explaining things to me and breaking down the nutritional deficiencies, like you need niacin, you need this, you need that, I started taking all that stuff.
And it makes a significant difference.
It really does.
And I talk to a lot of people that are skeptical about vitamins, and they talk to their doctors, unfortunately.
And the reality is that you're very educated in this department, but many doctors.
Have a cursory, at best, understanding of nutrition.
Their specialty is their specialty.
If they're a urologist or they're an orthopedic surgeon, that's their specialty.
And most of them are very unhealthy, unfortunately.
And then all the science started coming out saying how we needed B12 because our nutrition was devoid, because the soil not being rotated, devoid in the nutrients to feed the plants to give us our vitamins.
It says, prior to modern science and agriculture, the whys and hows of soil health largely were mysterious.
How soil additives functioned or the knowledge of which minerals were needed and when was the realm of the blind.
Beyond animal manure, farmers added soil amendments by the barrel.
Composts, human waste, fish, coal byproducts, chalk, or whatever unholy concoction was hawked by the latest charlatan to pull up in a wagon at Towns Edge and promise a yield bloom.
Decade upon decade, the pitfalls of fertilization tormented growers until 1802 when German explorer and scientist Alexander von Humboldt strolled down a waterfront in Peru and felt his nose hairs curl in ammonia rebellion and an odor emanating from barge loads of yellow-brown the pitfalls of fertilization tormented growers until 1802 when German explorer and Von Humboldt was told the stinking bird droppings covered the nearby Chincha Islands in deep layers and were massively popular with Peruvian farmers.
So they fly over with drones and they scan the area.
They probably could use satellites too, but they use drones and even airplanes.
They scan the area and then they get these images that show these geometric patterns that exist below.
And so they've unearthed a lot of these and so now they think there were millions of people living in the Amazon and that what probably happened was Europeans came over and gave them all smallpox.
But what was done there was done in a place where they had made this environment with terra preta and just because of the lush rainforest, it rains constantly and vegetation grows so well that as soon as they were gone, within a couple hundred years, everything's consumed by the jungle.
And then you lead thousands and thousands and thousands of years in the future.
There's nothing left.
And that's what they think they're looking at when they're looking at these large sections of the Amazon that have these patterns and structures that indicate civilization.
It just makes you wonder, how many of those exist out there, you know, in the Mexican jungles and in the Guatemalan jungles that we don't even know about?
He's essentially working to save the brain forest and what he does is he goes down there and he hires these people that were loggers to have a new job and the new job is to protect the forest instead and they've saved like I don't know what the number is, but an incredible large number of acres they've saved this way.
And they continue to do this, and they're trying to work with these people and try to stop them from just destroying the Amazon.
We get really good at drones to the point where you can have a bunch of drones that really do look like insects and fly them in there and film these folks.
And just without them being...
But the problem then, people would want to go visit them.
The description by the Padre means something like the children of God.
After many years of use, the word Indios emerged, and to this day, the indigenous people of South and Central America are called Indios.
So this is what this guy was saying.
So it said, stop, scroll back, go back.
So it said, here I'm a firm believer that most historians are wrong when they credit Christopher Columbus for corning the word Indian because he thought he was landing ships in India.
By 1492, there was no country known as India.
Instead, that country was called Hindustan.
I think that it's closer to the truth that Spanish padre that sailed with Columbus was so impressed by the innocence of the natives, he observed that he called them los ninos indios.
Meaning, the spelling may be wrong in the Spanish words, but the description by the padre means something like the children of God.
After many years of uses, the word indios emerged, and to this day, the indigenous people of South and Central America are called indios.
I'm told that as the word wound its way north, it evolved into Indian.
Of course, some will say that there was a place in the East Indies in 1492, and Columbus may have thought he was headed for that region.
So how and when did the effort to politicize the name start?
Some of it started when Native Americans enrolled in some of the white colleges.
I think they found the word Indian offensive and set about to remake it.
That the word Indian was often used in a derogatory fashion such as drunken Indian or rotten Indian.
Perhaps the white people would have found it more difficult to say drunken Native American.
And finally, when some Indian journalists made it to the newsrooms of large and prestigious mainstream newspapers, they reacted to the word Indian as they did when they were in college.
They went to their editors and tried to impress upon them the paper should no longer use the word Indian, but instead switch to Native American or Native.
Interesting.
The problem even with Native American is Native for how long?
Like, if you believe the bearing land mass theory, that they came across that way, that in a lot of Native Americans, and this was actually tested because of Mormons.
So there was a wealthy Mormon who spent a bunch of money on DNA testing for Native Americans because he was sure that it was going to relieve, it was going to show that they were from the lost tribe of Israel.
Because he believed that, you know...
The Mormon teaching is that, like, the Indians and Native Americans are the lost tribes of Israel.
But then he found out when they did the DNA testing, no, they're from Siberia.
Like, a lot of them are from Siberia.
So that would make sense.
They crossed the Bering Land Bridge, their ancestors did, and they wound up in North America.
Yo, there's a lot of hunting of bears, not in the lower 48. So they're trying to change that.
They're trying to change that in Montana because they have so many instances and attacks.
And a woman was killed a couple years ago.
She was dragged out of her tent.
Yeah, it's scary shit, man.
And I'm not...
I'm not advocating for the eradication of grizzlies.
I'm just saying that with our modern society, when they haven't existed in an ecosystem, to reintroduce that to the ecosystem, you're going to cause chaos.
You're going to cause havoc.
And if you want healthy breeding populations of them...
Good luck.
Good luck.
Because now everything changes.
All your livestock changes.
Your dogs change.
Your dogs are going to get eaten.
You have a dog chained up in the backyard, that's meat on a stick.
They do it in some communities with white-tailed deer, and the reason why they do it is because they're completely overpopulated, and oddly enough, this happens a lot in the suburbs.
Like, there's places in the suburbs, yeah, where there's, like, people who bowhunt in the suburbs.
Because, like, look, if you're bowhunting, your arrow doesn't go more than 100 yards, right?
It's not like you have to worry about you shoot and someone a mile away gets hit by a bullet.
If you don't have enough predators, and you have a large animal like an elk, like a bull elk is an 800-pound animal, and a mature cow elk is north of 300 pounds, 400 pounds.
This is a lot of food, and they can decimate vegetation.
There is a documentary that's kind of like...
poo-pooed by people but interesting nonetheless it's how how wolves changed rivers and it's all about how the Yellowstone ecosystem changed because of their introduction to wolves and more songbirds came in because there was more vegetation because the introduction of wolves they killed off a lot of the elk the elk had been just like maybe overbalanced in the fact that like overrepresented they were eating too much vegetation yeah so it's all interesting but what you really want is things to happen
And then when there's a problem, you know, really the best way to handle the problem if there's like an overabundance of these animals is to bring in hunters.
The other solution would be to bring in predators.
The problem with bringing in predators is if you have a predator like wolves that has been forever maligned because they go after livestock and they do target ranchers.
There was an article I read today actually about these ranchers that were kind of optimistic about wolves being introduced into Colorado and now they vehemently oppose it because they've seen the impact.
And one of the reasons why they saw the impact is because the...
Governor of Colorado, in all his fucking infinite wisdom, he had a mandate to get these wolves introduced during a certain amount of time, and they didn't have the wolves, so they got wolves from Oregon that they had captured while they were preying on livestock.
So these wolves were already accustomed to preying on livestock, and those are the wolves they reintroduced into Colorado.
They reintroduced wolves that had already been They would have been naturalized to killing livestock.
And so what did they start doing?
They started finding livestock and killing them again.
It's like you're fucking around with nature and you don't know how this calculation is going to end.
A good example is Australia.
Australia is a fucking mess.
Because they kept bringing in animals, and then they'd bring in animals to kill the animals, and then they'd have an overpopulation of certain animals, so they'd bring in cats, and now they have an overpopulation of feral cats.
The point where they hunt feral cats.
Like, if you look at an Australian bowhunting journal, you know, they have bowhunting magazines.
My buddy Adam Greentree, shout out to Adam Greentree.
My buddy Adam gave me a magazine from Australia bowhunting.
I'm like, bro, what the fuck is this?
It's all cats.
These guys are holding up house cats.
Because they kill feral cats whenever they can.
Because feral cats have decimated ground-nesting birds, and they've destroyed a shit ton of native animals that were in that area.
They brought them in to kill some other animal they brought in.
You can't fuck around with nature like that.
You don't know what the consequences are.
And when you do ballot box biology, which is essentially what this stuff is.
So the reintroduction of wolves is something people voted on.
The people that voted on are living in fucking Denver, all right?
They don't encounter wolves.
They don't know what they're doing.
It's like the same thing happened in Vancouver.
So in British Columbia, they outlawed grizzly bear hunting.
Why'd they do that?
Because, man, why would you kill it?
They call it trophy hunting.
But it's important to manage the predators and the people that knew.
I knew this were the people that lived in the rural areas that were vehemently opposed to this ban, and then what happens?
Well, you get ballot box biology.
You get people that have no experience with bears, don't encounter bears, don't have to worry about bears, and they say, yeah, let's not ban them anymore.
Now you got bears breaking into people's houses, and there's much more of them than ever before, and people are freaked out.
There was a video where my friend was in, I think they were in Montana, maybe Idaho, and a bear was 700 yards away plus, and the wind hit the back of his neck and the bear started running.
And he's like, did that fucking bear wind us?
Like, the bear caught their smell from 700 yards away.
So speaking of which, since we're talking about ridiculous shit and you are a doctor, I wanted to bring this up to you because Jamie and I were exchanging text messages yesterday about these mummies that they found in Peru that have three fingers.
This has real bone structure that is exact to like what a human being has and all those little tiny muscles in the mid-hand, right?
I mean, that all looks normal but weird with the three fingers and three toes.
And so if you scroll down, you'll see more images.
So this is what it looked like when they found it.
So the body is covered.
Go back so I can read that, please.
It says the body is covered with diatomaceous earth, a type of white powder made from the sediment of fossilized algae found in the bodies of water.
The only possible explanation for the unusually straight fingerprints could possibly have something to do with the way her skin was preserved, he said.
Noting that it's very odd.
So the US medical examiners traveled to Peru last April to study the bodies with the lack of human fingerprints as puzzling.
He said it would be extremely premature to make any statements about the mummy's origins.
So they know for a fact that these things are biological and they're not created.
Have they done any sort of DNA? Look at the picture of what it actually looks like.
That's fucking crazy.
That does look like an alien.
I mean, that's exactly what people expect to see at their bed in the middle of the night.
It says the humanoid three-fingered alien mummies have straight fingerprints that do not match those of humans, according to an attorney who reviewed one of the controversial specimens.
So Joshua McDowell, a former Colorado prosecutor and current defense attorney, examined one of the tiny strange bodies named Maria with three independent forensic medical examiners from the United States.
Scroll.
It said he and the experts were shocked to discover that the fingerprints in the ET-like corpses were in perfectly straight lines.
They were not traditional human fingerprint patterns, he told the Daily Mail.
But did they do an analysis of the tissue?
Did they find out that it's actually biological tissue?
What I saw were those other ones that I think have been proven, I might be wrong, but I think at least allegedly had been proven to not be real.
And that the person who was exposing those, those little tiny ones that were like laying down straight, that guy had a history of doing some deceptive stuff, allegedly.
That journalist that unveiled the bodies and the guy who exposed the bodies, the guy who exposed the bodies I think was the one, the guy who came up with it.
It says, the specimens are not a part of our evolutionary history of Earth.
The university has since distanced itself from Maussan, claiming its scientists took no part in the research and never came in contact with the full corpses.
In no case do we make conclusions about the origin of these samples.
The university's National Laboratory of Mass Spectrometry with Accelerator said in a statement.
Okay.
"The presence of carbon-14 allegedly detected in the specimens proved the samples were related to brain and skin tissues from different mummies who died at different times." What does that mean?
From one individual?
Is that saying from one individual?
The presence of carbon-14 allegedly detected in the specimens proved that the samples were related to brain and skin tissue from different mummies who died at different times.
So they're all different.
They come from different times, and they're all different little mummies.
So that's what they're saying.
So what they're saying is that the carbon isotope dating is showing that.
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Well, he's a very legitimate guy, Ryan Graves is, and very intelligent.
And if he's saying it's a stunt, now I'm super skeptical.
Okay.
He has a history of making controversial claims about other alien remains that have been wildly discredited.
Widely discredited.
Okay.
In 2017, he participated in a TV documentary about other specimens recovered near Peru's Nazca lines, which experts have said to have been concocted out of modified mummies.
That one video we watched, or you sent me, It was getting more towards, like, they could have been found in a burial-type site that other groups used similar things.
It's like a genetic mutation that exists, and it's thought to be like a prized thing.
And these people have, like, two toes, and their feet branch off like this.
And there's a bunch of people in this village that have these feet that are like this I forget what they call them like bird feet or I forget how they describe them.
Yeah, these are the folks So now, if you found these guys, and there's not just one of them...
Substantial minority of vedoma have a condition known as...
Ectodactyly, which means the middle three toes are absent and the two outer ones are turned in, resulting in the tribe being known as the two-toed or ostrich-footed tribe.
So go to images and see what that looks like.
Really wild, because there's like a bunch of them hanging out together.
Like, look at their feet.
So now, if you found a body that had those, you would say, oh, those are aliens.
So how do you account for the fact that there are multiple – from the Assyrians to the Egyptians to the Aztecs, Toltecs, Mayans, where they have on their structures, they have imagery of flying where they have on their structures, they have imagery of flying saucers, helicopters, alien – there is a couple with the – they look How do you account for that?
I have a feeling that our senses are extremely limited and that there's...
Other dimensions that we don't have access to that might have access to us.
I don't necessarily discredit the idea of something traveling from another planet.
I think we might be dealing with that too.
I think we might be dealing with a bunch of different civilizations and entities that are at very different stages of evolution.
So if life exists all throughout the galaxy, we know a bunch of things, right?
We know that planets...
Have certain ages.
We know that some planets are very old and some planets are much younger and we know that some planets are much closer to the Sun and some planets live in a very hospitable environment.
We know that some planets like ours are essentially in a shooting gallery because there's 900,000 near-Earth objects or more that are flying around, slamming into things.
And if it wasn't for Jupiter, we'd be fucked.
If it wasn't for Jupiter's enormous gravity and mass pulling everything into it, that's...
It's like basically our catcher.
It catches all the shit that flies into our solar system and slams into Jupiter.
And of course the moon itself is pockmarked with...
So imagine a planet that doesn't have that issue.
Imagine a planet that has a different environment where there's not a bunch of shit flying around.
And they think that flying around stuff is largely a part of collisions.
Like planets colliding with each other in the distant past.
Well, it says the videographer behind the new footage is unknown in no small measure due to the thorny legal and ethical dimensions of handling these allegedly historical and culturally priceless ancient remains.
That makes sense.
I don't know exactly who shot the video, but there are context clues in the longer version.
One source who had...
Also been granted the tape, told DailyMail.com.
They call them Jaqueros, who has long been involved in the promotion of these Nazca mummies, was convicted of assault on public monuments for taking artifacts in 2022. So if you take these artifacts, they go after you.
The man received a four-year suspended sentence, was fined about 20,000 Peruvian souls, just 5,190 U.S. dollars, according to Reuters.
A clear example of the high-risk, extra-legal measures some have taken to seek either truth or profit from these aliens.
And Dr. McDowell himself has also recently pled with Peru's government in an open letter published in one of the country's top newspapers asking for official permission to study these specimens at top flight scientific facilities in the U.S. Well, I like that.
I like that at least he's trying to get them, if it's true, that he's trying to get them studied.
But you imagine if you were one doctor who did find these things, you would receive a tremendous amount of skepticism and assholes like me, like making fun of them.
Wes Hollywood is at the Mondrian.
Interesting stuff, man.
So when you look at that as a doctor, does that look like horseshit to you?
Where at the end of it, not one of the actual skeletons, Jamie.
Yeah, so look at how the bones are at the top and where the joint is.
That looks like how our bones are.
The hinge in the joint of the elbow looks exactly like how a human's is, except it's one bone instead of two, which is, let's be honest, probably a better design.
I think the possibility that something could be so advanced that all of our ideas of how it got here and how long it's been here are just silly.
I think we might be just like these people in the Amazon that my friend Paul Rosely is running into.
They don't know that he goes on the Joe Rogan experience and reaches 15 million people.
They don't have any idea.
They have no idea.
So what do they see?
They see some guy with clothes on.
Like, what is this asshole doing?
And, you know, he's out there in the Amazon.
And, you know, and then he takes a picture.
Their experience with him is probably kind of similar to our experience, but except much more exaggerated, with aliens.
If you came into contact with something that's a million years more advanced than us, what would that contact be like?
Are we so limited in our understanding of...
How you move through the universe that we assume that everything has to use rockets and everything has to burn fuel and shoot things and to defy gravity by, you know, by pushing against it.
Maybe not.
Maybe there's much more advanced propulsion systems that exist.
See, that would be the thing to do, is the carbon data to find out whether or not if it's that old, then it should be petrified, and therefore it shouldn't look like that.
There may be a different life form that does not need Christ's redemption, the Vatican.
Vatican chief astronomer said.
That makes sense.
I mean, if they came from somewhere else.
Difficult to exclude the possibility that other intelligent life exists in the universe.
He noted that one field of astronomy is now actively seeking biomarkers and spectrum analysis of other stars and planets.
That's true.
They definitely have done that.
These potential forms of life could include those that have no need of oxygen or hydrogen, he said.
Just as God created multiple forms of life on Earth, he said, there may be diverse forms throughout the universe.
That makes sense.
That's an open-minded religious person.
It's not in contrast with faith because we cannot place limits on the creative freedom of God.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
If you're going to be logical and be a believer in God, that's the way to do it, right?
To say, look, if God exists, we just might be too limited in our understanding of the world to think that we think that God just made us and this is it.
But it might be God has made life all throughout the universe.
But the thing is, these ones that they found recently, see if you can find that article, the large-headed people that they found recently, another totally new branch.
Same height as ours, but larger heads, probably much stronger.
Like, you know, Neanderthals, far stronger than us.
Yeah, dubbed large-headed people.
The Enigmatic group once lived alongside Homo sapiens in Eastern Asia.
According to Science Alert, fossilized remains unearthed from sediment layers dated over 200,000 years ago revealed individuals with disproportionately large cranial volumes.
The realm of dreams is a gigantic mystery, and the realm of dreams is hyper-realistic sometimes.
I had a hyper-realistic dream last night.
I wish I could remember what it was, but it's one of those things.
It was crazy.
But I got up in the middle of the night, woke me up, and then I got up to pee, and I was like, what the fuck is wrong with me?
And then I went back to sleep.
But while I was experiencing that dream, I remember being aware that it was a dream eventually, but while it was all going down, I was like, this is a crazy dream.
Like, thinking, like, this is so vivid and so realistic.
If you live in a dream for the rest of your life, you are still alive and you are still experiencing things.
You're just experiencing things in a non-physical way, the way we interact with reality today.
So you and I are interacting with reality with a couple glasses of whiskey, a cigar, we have a wooden table, we're talking into microphones.
But the reality that you interact with in dreams is...
It's not tangible.
It's existing, you're experiencing it, but it's in some other realm.
It's some realm of the mind and some realm of consciousness.
And maybe what you're doing is accessing a dimension of possibilities that is entirely created by consciousness.
And maybe there's multiple layers to that and things can come from other places to us that way.
It's always been interesting to me that these people that have these abduction experiences, it seems like the vast majority, and I've read Abducted, which is John Mack's book, and I'm aware of the Betty and Barney Hill story, and this is Travis Walton, the guy who got abducted in Arizona.
Now, the difference between Travis Walton's story and the other stories is people saw Travis Walton go up to that UFO. Travis Walton disappeared for five days.
Travis Walton came back from being in the woods for five days with this crazy story.
And the other people, most of them, it happens at night, right?
And so when you're dreaming...
Who knows what the fuck is really happening?
And if you're lying in bed and you get abducted by aliens and they return you to your bed, what really happened?
Is there a video of you disappearing?
Or if we had a video in that room, would you have this same experience but your physical body never goes anywhere?
What are you really experiencing?
That's the question.
And I'm not doubting that these people have something happen to them.
But we do know that when people are dreaming, there's an endogenous release of psychedelic chemicals.
There's this crazy experience of dreams and of vivid dreams and lucid dreams.
So what is that?
And if that is something that can be traversed, is that something that someone can enter into?
Is it possible that other intelligence that's different than ours, that's more advanced than ours, that lives in a different dimension than ours, has access to the mind in these exchanges?
I'm not even dismissing physical contact, but I'm just saying that many of these cases where people claim to have been abducted happen at night.
I don't think that is a coincidence.
I think the realm of consciousness is, I think we're very arrogant in our belief that we understand what's going on with how we interface with reality.
In the subconscious space, you know, the question is, is that when the extraterrestrials invades our space, our psychiatric space, and therefore gives to us in our brain the perception of everything that we perceive, meaning the alien, the...
Maybe it's something you're experiencing that's from somewhere else.
Maybe it's your consciousness.
Interacting with reality in a completely alien environment that is guaranteed to give you a heightened sense of anxiety.
The woods at night, right?
A lot of these people are experiencing these things in the woods at night.
Maybe there's a level of consciousness you reach under those circumstances where you interact with things that you ordinarily cannot interact with.
And maybe that's why there's a lack of physical evidence in our dimension.
Like, the physical evidence in our dimension is very limited.
One thing that's compelling, and maybe the only thing that's compelling, is dermal ridges that they find on these footprints.
So they find these footprints in muck, like where they step in mud and muck and stuff, and they leave behind not just footprints, but footprints with dermal ridges like fingerprints, which is very difficult to fake, especially in like the 1970s and the 1980s where some of these things were acquired.
So it's like, I don't know what we're dealing with, but there's enough people that talk about that experience and it makes you...
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I don't believe, but I don't disbelieve.
Bigfoot being an actual large ape that lives undisturbed in the Pacific Northwest, I'm very skeptical because there's too many hunters now and too many people with cameras and too many camera traps.
There's too many cell phone cameras where trail cameras snap things that are going by.
Wildlife biologists use them.
We know of a couple of jaguars that exist in the United States.
And the reason why we know about them is because of trail cameras.
So the fact that there's zero trail camera footage that's...
Yeah.
The Bigfoot thing is like maybe.
But maybe you're interacting with something that's not physical.
It might be something that's interdimensional or something that you might be looking at the past.
You might be interacting with whatever experience this thing has had many, many, many, many years ago.
It's like left echoes.
It might be echoes in space.
It echoes in time.
And that under certain states, you can briefly access these echoes.
Briefly access these things that may have existed or might exist in other dimensions.
I'm not ruling it out.
I wouldn't bet the house on it.
I wouldn't bet the house on it.
I do think there's a lot of bullshit artists, too, though.
The balance that obviously you're talking about is the fact that there are so many people who are trying to present the factual evidence that it exists that causes you to doubt it.
So, you know, I believe that there's a possibility of all the things that we talked about from Bigfoot to aliens and so forth.
But there's a tempered perception of it as being reality, that it might be there, but we would rather deny it as opposed to accept it.
Because what happens if you accept it as 100% truth?
There's video of things moving underwater at very high rates of speed.
Some of the whistleblowers, and again, how much that's real, but some of the whistleblowers from the government have claimed that they have detected things underwater that are enormous, like the size of a football field, and they're moving 500 knots underwater with no visible means of propulsion.
So those videos that have come out recently of the Navy aviators who have chased UFOs that have gone into the water and they've seen these large reflections under the water of huge spaceships and so forth.
If we have that technology, then it explains it all.
But the question is, as long as we don't acknowledge the fact that we're at that level of technology, then you have to account for, where's it coming from?
I've seen articles where it talks about cities, communities underneath the ocean in the San Andreas, not San Andreas Fault, what is that fault line called?
And if we're on a path, a predictable path of evolution that almost all intelligent life goes on, there's probably going to be pitfalls that they could help us navigate.
Imagine if we're observing emerging intelligence in other primates other than us.
How would we handle it?
How would we handle it if all of a sudden chimpanzees...
Not all of a sudden, but hundreds of thousands of years now.
What would our future society do if, in the future, chimpanzees start developing weapons and buildings and planes and doing all the shit that we do when we're far more advanced than that then?
Well, it's not because, like, you would think that they would become a different thing.
You know, they would become like we did, right?
Like we used to be Australopithecus.
We used to be all these different hominids.
What if they eventually become like more hairless?
They start wearing clothes.
It would be fucking real interesting to see how human beings would handle that.
You know, like what would we do a million years from now if hominids kept advancing down an evolutionary plane and they eventually got to a place where they were like ancient humans?
How would we do?
I mean, if we were, like, super advanced, like, oh, you guys can't go to war.
Well, I mean, it is interesting because, like, what's different between us and any other people that have ever lived is that we've figured out a way to optimize your health in a very substantial way.
In the past, someone who was my age, I'm 57. Someone who was my age, your body's probably broken.
Your body is probably beaten down.
Your hormones are dead.
You're probably real tired all the time.
And I'm not.
And because of vitamins and hormones and all the different things that I do to keep my body healthy and exercise.
We're living in a different time.
And because of that, you stay vital.
You have vitality much longer than anyone ever did before.
So you can explore things and you have more curiosity and energy for thought more than anybody ever has before.
Now, one of the greatest fallacies is that as we age, we don't need to do anything to reinvigorate our body.
Supplements are very important.
Hormones are key.
Exercise.
Important because of, as I said about the brain-derived neurotrophic factor, you can increase it to improve brain.
This guy out of USC, Caleb Finch, who talked about, he believed that the reason for why we age and we die is because we lose our hormones in our brain.
And I think the reason why I'm at 72 with the level of clarity and functionality, aside from my back, is the fact that I've always, 30 years, I've been a hormone replacement, nutraceuticals, getting in good vitamins, so forth, because our body loses it over the course of time.
And you need to keep replacing it.
And the people who are listening to this might understand that you need to supplement.
You need to be proactive on your quality of health, otherwise you start losing it.
And I think the good news is that the new government is emphasizing privacy and freedom of speech.
And the other government was emphasizing cracking down on what they called misinformation and disinformation and more control of what you say and do and where you go.
And the way to get more control is more invasive technology.
This is Biohack Yourself, and I'll give a minute on it.
A family called Lolly Group, and if you were in Washington for the inauguration, the Biohack Group, which is the Lolly Group, which is Anthony and Teresa Lolly, they're the ones who put together Biohack Yourself, which has been picked up by Robert.
F. Kennedy Jr. as being their representative for media because he trusts them because all they want to do is get the science out there that's real, not the bullshit that's been thrown at us.
So they've been pulled in, and there were 32 of us, quote, experts is what they call us, who participated in this program.
So what they're doing is really cool because it's presenting the science behind what...
You've already experienced with us and what I continue to promote for brain health, for well-being, and longevity, anti-aging.