Rick Strassman and Joe Rogan dive into Alaska’s Boneyard, where 10,000-year-old mammoth and bison remains—possibly linked to the Younger Dryas Impact Theory—were allegedly dumped in New York’s East River. Strassman contrasts this with AI’s hyper-realistic creations like Sora videos, debating whether shared consciousness via neural tech could reshape society or expose human nature’s resistance to truth. They explore psychedelics’ role in mental health, from Navajo reservation struggles to Rogan’s DMT-assisted veterans, while critiquing fluoride and vaccine narratives as profit-driven distortions. Strassman’s My Altered States (Dec 10) bridges ancient myths—like the Nephilim or Anunnaki—and modern science, questioning if literal or symbolic interpretations hold deeper truths about human evolution and perception. [Automatically generated summary]
And they started finding an extraordinary amount of tusks and bones and skulls from animals that aren't even supposed to have been there.
And it's kind of rewriting history, but it's all in his land.
So he has complete control over it.
And he has like, see, there's John.
He's this enormous dude.
He's like six foot nine, like a big giant man.
And he has, this is just some of it.
Like show those warehouses that he has.
So he had a research facility built on his property.
So they could study this stuff.
And if you see outside in the lobby, there's actually a bison skull.
It's like a 10,000-plus-year-old bison skull.
So this area is only a few acres.
This is what's really crazy.
He has one area that's like, I believe it's like four acres, and another area that's about six acres.
And there's also like a very heavy layer of carbon So it appears there was some sort of a mass fire.
And he thinks that this mass extinction event that all the people like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson talk about with the end of the Younger Dryas, the Younger Dryas Impact Theory.
He thinks it's connected to this, and he thinks that site might have been hit, and all these animals, probably in the Great Flood, their carcasses were washed into this sort of valley, this one area where they were kind of trapped up against the side of this mountain.
And so he hoses the mountain down.
It's all permafrost, so it's all been frozen forever.
And they have these high-pressure hoses, and they hose it until they expose like a tusk.
So they had, from the same property before he owned it, way back in, like, I think it was the 30s, they had so many bones from this part of Alaska where the previous people had found them that they didn't have any room to store them, so they dumped them in the East River.
They denied that this happened and so he sent a bunch of divers out there and so they're recovering like these mammoth bones and all these like bison bones, step bison bones in the East River that are all from his property in Alaska.
I think it was something that came up along the way.
You know, because he's a gold miner, he's got a lot of disposable income, so he's willing to just spend it on his own to do this.
He doesn't trust the museums anymore because they screwed over the previous owner, and even though it's his property and his land, he's supposed to get that stuff and they don't want to give it to him.
And so he's got his own research facility that he built.
He spent millions of dollars building this enormous research facility on his property so that they could study these bones.
Not that there was anything wrong with The Lost Boys.
It's a little dated.
Thirty Days of Night is more modern and these vampires decided to descend upon this small town where it never turns light so they could just hunt all the time.
It's interesting how, you know, vampires sort of...
We decide that they look like Bela Lugosi, you know?
There's Dracula, that must be a vampire.
And then some people, they...
Have you ever wondered the root of some things like that?
I used to wholly dismiss ghosts as a young man.
When I was a boy, I believed in them because I was young and dumb.
And then as I got older, I was like, maybe there's a reason why...
If I've never experienced something and then I do experience it, how am I ever going to explain this to people where it's going to make any sense to someone else that hasn't experienced it before?
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Haven't there been studies done, there's been something done where they've taken people in altered states and had them go into a room where they experienced, they weren't connecting, they weren't communicating, but they experienced incredibly similar environments.
Like, if you had never experienced that, and someone was trying to describe it to you, it would sound completely like nonsense, just like a ghost would.
Just look at the different kinds of music that people enjoy, the different kinds of food that people enjoy, and the different kinds of climate that they enjoy.
There is no way we're all seeing the same thing.
There's no way.
If food that tastes horrible to you is like a sacred delicacy to them, you know?
One of the ideas I put out in that 2014 book on the prophetic state, the soul of prophecy, I proposed that people respond ethnically or culturally differently to different endogenous psychedelics.
You know, the emphasis on the enlightenment experience in Buddhism might be because people in that part of the world produce or are more sensitive to 5-methoxy DMT, which gives you that white-out experience.
And with the other kind of religious experience, it's more DMT-like because it's full of angels and you speak to things, they speak to you.
So there may even be some kind of differential among people as far as the way they're hardwired for spiritual experience, even.
Well, it kind of makes sense, too, if the way they move through the world is through a specific cultural training, right?
The way their cultural thinks about things and...
Just imagine being born in an atheist, secular environment, and you're raised by those people, and then you meet someone who's born in a fundamentalist Christian religion, where it's very strict, and then they both meet when they're 14 and compare notes.
It'd be the most bizarre versions of the world, right?
Yeah, that's a theory about the syndrome of survivors of the Holocaust and their children and their children, is that the stress of being, for example, in the camps activated certain genes, which were then in an activated state, passed on to the following generations.
And I felt really dumb and I didn't feel alive at all.
No, they come back with like this very bizarre euphoric, just like, their version of it when they're expressing themselves, it seems like they were like on mushrooms.
He told a story about how this monk, the Buddha was in town, this monk went to visit the Buddha, and he told the monk that he's practiced a city of levitation for the past 10 years, and now he can walk on water.
And the Buddha goes, yeah, but the ferry's only a nickel.
Here's my take on some of these things.
Just because it's hard to do, doesn't always mean it's good to do.
There are things that are hard to do, but they're good to do.
If you could run a marathon, at the end of that marathon, you're like, wow, I really did something.
And you feel good, and you're like, wow, you're a little beat up, but you have a new faith in yourself.
That's good to do.
It's hard to do, but good to do.
But if you run for seven days, and you almost die, Maybe.
Is there a thing that happens, like, I lived in Boston when I was a kid, and one thing that it really does benefit you with bad weather is that when you have bad winters, you really love those summers.
Those summers are so special.
When me and my friends will, like, go out on a summer night, it's like, we...
Well, my patient population, everybody, a lot of, the majority of people were pretty devout churchgoers and very strict about observance of the regulations in the Bible.
So the buckshot is like it scatters into a pattern, and the further it is from the rifle barrel, like how far you're shooting, it's like if you're shooting 20 yards, It scatters quite a bit and it makes an area of impact about that big, like a basketball sized.
Or maybe a little smaller than that.
But a slug is a single object and it has a lot more force behind it.
So if you're shooting a bear, I would want a slug.
But there's a give factor with tires that's important to handling.
You know, there's things that are going on dynamically with tires when you're going around corners and your car has grip, you know, especially if you're off-roading, right?
They deflate their tires quite a bit to get more traction.
So I guess that's the benefit of air, is that you can air them down and do stuff with them.
But it seems like the negative side of it, of getting a flat and getting stuck in the middle of nowhere because you don't have any air in your tire, that seems crazy.
And you are tripping, for example, and you're touching these two billion years old rocks, and you really feel something that you don't feel anywhere else.
Because the way we treated the gym, like I remember I had this girlfriend in high school and she wanted to fool around at the gym and it was the Dojang is what it's called.
But I used to teach there and I had keys so I was there.
In my Zen training over the years, we did a lot of bowing to statues, to people, to images, to photographs.
Before we ate, we would bow to the food.
Yeah, so lots of bowing.
It's an interesting experience to bow, to really kind of get yourself together and lower your head and be humbled, be, you know, like in the presence of something greater.
Well, you can be too humble in the sense that you don't have confidence in your ability to do something that is sort of open.
Some open-ended, you don't know how it's going to turn out.
Something where it's dangerous, you're going to take a risk.
You have to be bold.
You have to have enough confidence in yourself that you can navigate a thing that very few people navigate.
If you choose to start your own business, if you choose to quit what you're doing and go on a journey because you really feel compelled to have other life experiences, if you're too humble, you might not be willing to bet on yourself.
If you could leave a little pad of paper and a pen to slay it around so they could write you a note when no one knows about it, what's really going on, I bet it would be like a message in the bottle.
If you're in the kind of controlling culture that even considers an arranged marriage, I mean, it's a very strict culture.
Not saying it's negative, but it's very strict.
And if you have great parents, and they're really wise in their choices, and you're in a culture that has an arranged marriage, and your parents are like, Super kind and generous and they trust you and they love you and they think you're amazing and then they want to hook you up with an amazing person Maybe it can work out, but generally I think you give people the freedom to do whatever they want to do and maybe that lady never wants to get married Maybe she's decided like I don't like how this is.
I want to throw myself into my work.
I want to travel the world I want to do this like you could do whatever the fuck you want to do in your ride.
I think that's the case, that if there's no chemistry at all and the woman or the guy says, forget it, I'm not interested, I think you're free to end it.
Well, I have a good friend of mine who came on the podcast recently and was talking about his experiences in Afghanistan and how crazy it is there.
And he's like, it's like you're going back in time a thousand years, like the way women are treated and children are treated, the amount of pedophiles and open molestation of boys and just murder.
I mean, that's the significance of it as holy land.
The concept of Holy Land is always so...
If there's a place where it is literally in the Bible that this is the place where Jesus is going to return to, this is going to be a place where people do battle over.
You can't let the enemy control the place where Jesus comes back to.
Because what if Jesus comes back and they immediately snuff him out because they're Islamists?
So even if that's the timeline, so we're looking at about 4,000 years, right?
You know, like Abraham, you know, the first of the Hebrews, lived around 1800 BCE. So 2000 BCE, the first known mention of the city, so that's 2000 before current era in Middle Kingdom Egyptian, how do you say that?
Yeah, so Jerusalem is an old city, and, you know, the temples were there a long, long time ago.
Yeah, and, you know, the location of the temples relates to dreams of Jacob, who was laying on the ground and on a stone and, you know, made of a vow, you know, to God, you know, the God of the Hebrews who, you know, Jacob was commuting with to build the house of the Lord there.
And so, you know, there's a long history of that part of the world being associated with the patriarchs and with the temple.
You know, Christianity has an association to Jerusalem because of Jesus.
I'm not sure what the connection between Islam and Jerusalem is.
Here it says, Jerusalem is revered by Muslims as the third holiest place on earth, and the pilgrimage to Jerusalem is viewed as an optional compliment to the pilgrimage to Meqra, the Hajj.
Unlike the Hajj, the pilgrimage to Jerusalem is undertaken individually at any time of the year.
They attach themselves to this thing and then use this to behave in a completely different way.
Instead of a person who's experiencing it like everybody else, they're like a leader, right?
And I think there's a real danger in that, expressing these thoughts to other people as pure facts.
You know, the way to live your life.
Like, listen, you don't know how...
Stop, okay?
There's ways you've learned to live your life better because of that.
You should be just talking about those experiences.
But when you start giving people instruction in how to do things and then, you know, organizing people together, I think that's a symptom of this spiritual narcissism.
That people, if you're attached to this, you're attached to something divine, which I think we would both agree it is, You can imagine that you are divine or you can project that you are divine.
Well, I think that's one of the interesting things about Brian Muir Rescue's book, is that I don't think these ideas came from the drugs.
I think they were just made more manifest, more meaningful, more real than they were before because of the drugs.
So if you're a Viking and you want to go out and kill, if you're living in a religious community with certain beliefs and you want to believe them even more firmly or practice more intensely, psychedelics could have that effect.
Yeah, I think that's what's going on with the beings in the DMT world.
I don't think they are necessarily freestanding intelligences, but they're the way our culture, our personal culture and our larger culture And wrap in a visible form certain information, certain kinds of input, either from the outside world or in your own mind.
So it's culture-specific, I think, the visions that you would see.
I don't think they're like aliens from another planet, although I kind of thought that in the beginning.
But as time has gone on and I've heard more and more stories, I'm I'm more inclined to believe these are simply projections taking the garb of the personal milieu.
Because you can go down that road and just decide, oh, no, no, no, what these are, these are thoughts, and thoughts have a consciousness of their own, and we think of them as being independent Like they're just created by the human mind, but no, the human mind is probably tuning into these things and they can appear as entities.
I think thoughts might be a living thing.
It sounds stupid to say out loud, but the idea is everything that exists on Earth that humans have created, every single one of them came from an idea.
Which is weird because it's had so much of an impact, so much of an impact on the world.
Well, you know, one of the ideas in the medieval philosophers was that thought or thoughts are intermediaries between you and God.
You know, they're angels which are exchanged between you and some divine external source of information.
So, if you're thinking of how thoughts have directed the world's growth, I mean, you could even extrapolate to, well, maybe it's the divine plan for humanity.
If you objectively just step outside of human culture and just watch the world, It's certainly moving in a very specific direction, and that direction is very much technologically driven.
There's something really crazy going on in a technological direction.
And then all that stuff is coming from ideas.
So ideas...
Are popping into people's heads.
They're over the course of hundreds and thousands of years.
These ideas are propagated and given to other people and they expand upon them and then more ideas take place and then more execution of these ideas and it changes the landscape and changes the ocean.
And the rules of nature, let's say, or the rules of thought, like how the brain creates thought, they are regulated in a particular manner.
There's an order to chemistry.
Certain chemical reactions occur for this or that reason.
You know, so it's as if, you know, the system is already set up to encourage certain behaviors, have certain ones, certain ideas form and other ones not form.
You know, cause and effect if you, you know, like if something bad happens to you, it's because of what happened before.
If something good happens to you, it's because of what happened before.
So you learn from your experience to do things that result in you feeling better, positive outcome.
So the system is developed that way.
For example, if you get angry, you might stub your toe.
That's how it works.
And you're in pain and you think, oh, I shouldn't be angry.
Or you're nice to someone and they're nice to you as opposed to being mean to you.
I think the world, I think existence is set up in a certain way to encourage certain behaviors and discourage others.
That's what's weird.
I think the technological stuff.
It's pretty interesting now.
But it speaks like a larger phenomenon, which is how cause and effect has been set up.
Well, it's how cause and effect has been set up, but it's also there's a very weird competitive drive towards technological innovation that exists with people because it's attached to monetary gain, right?
And the companies that are involved in the most technological, sophisticated work, whether it's AI or whether it's social media, like when you're programming things in a giant scale, it's incredibly profitable.
I don't think writers are as fucked as actors are, though.
Because some writers, like, you know, there's the Quentin Tarantinos of the world that are just going to take turns because of just his own psychology that you're not going to take.
Or Stephen King when he was younger.
I don't think you're ever going to be able to write Carrie on a computer.
I think you need the human experience for some stuff that's creative, but not for the video.
The one of our top ten all-time favorite movies, because it so rang true.
Like, there was not a moment in that movie where I was like, bullshit, get out of here.
It so rang true that they would be able to manipulate you super easily, especially if you're a young man, and you're, you know, awkward with women, and it's this perfect woman who just happens to be a robot.
So there's a scene where the lions are in the park, like in the streets, like they have lions out there because the civilizations collapsed, the zoos opened.
What I was going to say is I think AI can give you some—and McKenna actually talked about this as well, that he believed that— With virtual reality and computer simulations of trips, it will get to a point of sophistication where you can visually simulate exactly what a psychedelic trip is.
And then there becomes this real possibility.
Within our lifetime of recording dreams.
Now, if you can record a dream, can you record a psychedelic state?
Let's say they're 50 years away from being able to do something like this.
But if they can map out all of the synapse in your brain and all of the different neurochemistry that's going on, if they can map that out, And then attach it to some ability to visually record what you're experiencing.
And they can then have something through a neural implant, like Neuralink or something like that, and then completely put you in the exact state that this person is having when they're on 9 grams of mushrooms.
That totally seems like...
If we can send video through the sky and it lands on your phone, it looks perfect.
I think that's doable.
I think that's doable within X amount of years.
I mean, it's not a thing like cloning people through a printer.
Like, that's too far away.
But I think the idea of recording your thoughts and then Figuring out what causes different reactions inside people's minds, how your visual cortex interplays with all these different chemicals that are going on inside of your brain.
Well, I think the stories could be seen as if they were real.
Kind of like the DMT world.
At a certain point, I had to look at the DMT world as if it were real.
Otherwise, I would suggest it was something else.
It was psychoanalytic, psychodynamic stuff.
It was Jungian archetypes.
It was your brain on drugs.
But if I took as an act of faith that it was a real world, I treated it as if it were real.
And that's the way I approach the Bible, the Bible stories, as if they were real.
If you read it carefully, it's a very coherent picture of creation, of history, of the relationship between the spiritual and human worlds.
And if you just enter it rather than interpret it as something else, then it starts opening up in a way that is quite interesting.
Like, for example, the flood.
Or, well, for example, the Tower of Babel.
Yeah.
If you look at the preceding chapters, after the flood, God told man to spread out, to populate the world, because it was just Noah and his family after the flood.
And then they had children, and the directive was to repopulate the earth.
And instead, they built this tower.
You know, so, you know, people kind of wonder, you know, why was the generation of the tower, you know, punished, as it were, by being dispersed and their languages were confused.
But, yeah, you know, so it's a cohesive whole.
You know, the stories, you know, build upon each other.
You know, there's history.
Certain things occurred because of the behavior of certain people, certain ideas, certain practices.
Yeah, so it isn't as if it were something else other than what you're reading.
And that makes it important to understand the language it's written in, which is Hebrew.
So if you really want to understand at least the Hebrew Bible, what some call the Old Testament, you really need to know the Hebrew language because you can make the translation for yourself.
You know, they say all translation is interpretation.
Yeah, and that's one of the things I loved learning about biblical Hebrew is, you know, the grammatical forms open a window to parts of reality that just are ignored all of the time.
You know, there's a notion of the reflexive tense.
Which means you're doing something to yourself.
So for example, you might say, I sat down, or I sat myself down.
And I sat myself down is the reflexive.
And I sat down is what's called the perfect.
So the convolutions of grammar really open windows to views of relationships that were invisible before.
And if you're using this and you're reading these ancient, ancient stories and trying to interpret them and then trying to break it down into English or Greek or Latin or whatever they did.
Well, the translation of the Bible itself, you know, the five books, the first five books, and then the intervening, you know, 17, the prophets and whatnot, you know, those were, you know, translated into different languages, you know, book to book.
The Dead Sea Scrolls are both books of the Bible with slight modifications or completely independent kinds of texts.
But in it, you know, he's all in on everything being evidence that UFOs were here and a lot of, like, real sketchy connections, in my opinion.
I'm more inclined to go the Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson route.
I think there was a very sophisticated civilization that existed.
Like, yeah, what year?
1970. I saw it in the movie theater when I was a little kid.
But I think that there's real evidence that there was a sophisticated civilization.
The Egyptian pyramids are enough.
It's just like whatever the hell was going on there, there was an insanely sophisticated civilization that existed 4,500 years ago at least and probably went back quite a bit further than that.
You know, according to their hieroglyphs, it went back 30,000 years, you know, and whatever was going on there was pretty incredible.
And I think to just say that the aliens did it, it seems a little, a little silly, because there's no evidence that the aliens did it.
There's evidence that there's people around back then.
Well, I think a lot of people are starting to lean in this general direction of that, of that perhaps we're trying to measure something that cannot be measured.
Perhaps we're trying to put something on a scale that does not necessarily physically exist, but also has the attributes of something that physically exists.
Or they can manifest something that physically exists, but it's kind of an illusion.
And the whole thing is kind of going on simultaneously, interdimensionally.
And that this is why we struggle with our definitions and just our overall acceptance of even the possibility of it being real.
I think most people, when you talk to them about UFOs, if they don't have any skin in the game, they'll tell you they believe in UFOs, they'll tell you they think we've been visited because it's fun.
But if you said to them, If you had to bet everything you have, everything you have on the government has recovered crashed UFOs and that they visit us and they come from, you know, the Palladi star system and they've been here from the beginning of time,
or there's weird conscious experiences, weird There's weird doors, portals of consciousness that open up that allow you to see things that might not necessarily be physically measurable, but also real.
And that these things are what everybody's talking about in these ancient religious stories.
These things are things that people are talking about when they claim they've been abducted by UFOs, then something landed, and even like the physical remnants of these crafts That might – all of it might be just a part of this very bizarre psychic experiment that's going on.
That as the mind expands its ability to understand other realms and as the – like you have to think of – you don't have to, but the way I think of it is like we didn't used to be able to see.
So it was an emerging trait of single-celled organisms, no sight, if you believe in evolution – It goes to multi-celled organisms, eventually goes to sight.
So it's an emerging part of being a living thing, as you can see.
Then language.
We didn't used to be able to talk, now we talk freely.
So there's an emerging thing, an ability that human beings had.
And I think consciousness, psychic ability, precognition, remote viewing, all this stuff.
For most people, that's a nonsense thought.
But I think the thought is so prevalent in so many different cultures.
Psychic phenomena is discussed ubiquitously in every corner of the world.
And I think it's probably an emerging part of being a human being.
I'm sure it probably has a lot to do with the diet of the creatures, right?
I mean, if humans are consistently, if you're in the Amazon, you're consistently taking ayahuasca and eating mushrooms and having rituals, you're probably in that realm more often than a regular person who eats McDonald's and drinks coffee at Starbucks and It's stressed out because they work all day and is on SSRIs.
But the people that were experiencing it then, when they wanted to name it telepathine, they wanted to name it that because they were experiencing telepathic...
Or if you guys are nowhere near each other, you can't hear each other, and then you independently write down what you experienced, and then that person says, and they have the exact same thing.
So they have no interaction with you before they write down what they experienced or recorded or what have you.
I think we have the potential now because if we can develop universal language, you have real communication with people globally.
That's never existed before.
Instantaneous real communication through devices.
That's never existed.
So that's a different factor when you consider a universal language.
So if you have real communication with people, then you have universal language.
And then here's the big one.
The ability to detect deception.
So if we really are all communicating through some sort of neural implant and we really are doing this telepathically with a universal language and we're experiencing each other's consciousness in a way that eliminates all possibility of deception.
You can see envy, greed, anger.
You can see these things in people's thoughts.
If this becomes a possibility – and I think it's within the realm of science.
I think it's within the realm of technological possibility.
When that does happen, it will mean a very different thing to be a human being.
And I think it could be one of the greatest things that's ever happened because it would force us to only communicate at a higher level.
You – there would be no benefit in bullshitting anymore.
It would be the opposite.
It would actually be detrimental.
You would be ostracized.
No one would want to communicate with you anymore.
With a limited ability to communicate and, you know, you don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.
Sure.
Yeah.
But if you're not a human being anymore, essentially, you're a cyborg and you're connected through a neural link to the whole world, there's going to be zero benefit in lying.
You know another more controversial thought that I have about all this stuff?
Is that ultimately The big bottleneck with information is going to be money because money right now is just ones and zeros, right?
Money is just information.
It's just we agree that you have X amount of dollars here.
We agree.
It's not a gold standard anymore.
It's just not backed by anything.
It's just a weird thing.
So that's information.
The trend with technology is we have more and more access to information and ultimately we're going to have instantaneous access to information.
But then we have this money thing.
We have money which is – and as people get better and better at cracking encoding, like you're not going to have encrypted money.
You're not going to have encrypted – it's not going to be possible, especially when quantum computing becomes ubiquitous.
Like we're all operating off – like it's all done.
And if this happens at the same time when we're all sharing our thoughts, impossible to lie, And then universal language and money.
So then you have an even distribution of resources that's not based at all on capitalism.
It's an abandonment of capitalism.
But not in like a Marxist communist way, in sort of a practical utilitarian way to deal with the fact that everybody's communicating with everybody instantaneously.
You can't have a guy who lives in a fucking castle and another guy who lives in a favela with a dirt floor and no food if we're all existing as one.
If you're communicating telepathically and you can instantaneously detect it, it makes deception impossible because you're only able to express your thoughts.
But have you ever opened your eyes on DMT? There was this video I was watching the other day online where these people, they put them on DMT and then they had lasers.
Well, I think what happens, and this is just a very cursory assessment of the project, but people smoke DMT and then they project a red laser onto the wall.
And if you look very carefully at it, from what I understand, you can see the matrix.
Well, because he is an outsider and he is someone who did not come through the political system, so doesn't have all these relationships and all of these intertwined conflictions with corporations and All these different businesses that have paid for his campaign.
The campaign's self-financed.
And then you have someone who didn't play the game to get in there.
And you can't have that.
You can't have that.
If you have that, and this guy doesn't want wars, he doesn't want us giving money to foreign...
Companies and foreign countries and propping up dictators.
I mean, when Eisenhower talked about it on television at the end of his term, it's kind of a crazy moment in history that was just broadcast on television and wasn't really revisited until YouTube came around.
I think with RFK Jr., when he gets in, we have a real possibility of opening up psychedelic treatment for veterans, which I think is the best way to start it off because they're the most deserving of it.
They're the people we ask of the most.
And there's been a lot of people that have had some pretty profound changes take place because of psychedelic experiences.
I think they should develop special clinics, you know, where you wouldn't actually be doing research and you wouldn't need incredibly strong data to justify that kind of treatment.
You would just need an indication that it was helpful.
It's not like this idea of not having robust clinical research to show efficacy, like, on a physiological level.
That doesn't really exist with SSRIs anyway.
And they're already prescribing them.
Like, there's so much anecdotal stories, so many of them, of guys going to Mexico, taking Ibogaine, taking DMT, psilocybin experiences, and coming back and just, like, sorted their life out.
A couple of weeks ago, we were at a conference up in Denver, and I was doing some book signing.
Some guy, my generation, came up to me, and he told a story after he returned from Vietnam.
He was using basically every drug In a bad way, bad drugs in a bad way, and he smoked DMT one day, stopped using everything.
He even moved to live across the street from a liquor store to be able to demonstrate that he had that willpower that had just changed with one DMT experience to resist any future drinking.
And I know I have personal friends that have gone through it and changed their life, quit drinking, got their shit together, became a much nicer person.
Like sometimes people are just burdened by the stress of what they've experienced, especially war, which is the most horrific thing that people can experience.
You're burdened by this.
And sometimes they don't know how to shut those demons off.
They don't know how to shut it off.
And something can come along, whether it's a DMT experience, ayahuasca, Ibogaine.
There's a bunch of different anecdotal stories that I've heard of different things.
I was reading something about Colorado today.
Colorado is doing some new psilocybin research thing, where they're opening up clinics now?
You kind of wonder if these are transcriptions of his talks or things that other people helped him write or even things that other people wrote for him.
The down you feel off of a pretzel sometimes is worth it, though, because they're so delicious, especially the ones that wrap a hot dog in the pretzel.
Lots of people, like the small town I was living in, that would be like a regular thing if people would lay down on their tracks if they were having a bad day.
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Imagine if we can cure that with Elon Musk's Neuralink.
Well, there's plenty of examples that would support that if you were inclined to be, you know, less charitable and make a rash generalization about white people.
And I started working with her for like the next four years.
Because obviously things had gotten so dire because I wasn't taking care of myself.
So I had to kind of get to the bottom of that.
Yeah, so it took another maybe seven months before I started to feel my strength back and my brain functioning again.
One turning point, this might interest some of your listeners, is I got vaccinated for the flu in January, which was nine months after this all started.
And it was the most painful vaccination I'd ever had.
It was beyond 10. It wasn't even throbbing.
It was just constant, like beyond any pain in my arm I'd ever felt.
It was the early days of the pandemic and the UFC had allocated about, I think it was 150 or so doses for all their employees because they were running shows during the pandemic when everyone was terrified of it.
So...
I go to Vegas to do this UFC event, and I had a test before I leave, and then you fly, you test when you get there, and they're really strict with their protocols, make sure that no one was sick.
When people were sick, like a fighter's corner man was sick, everyone was kicked off.
All those people were off.
The fighter couldn't compete even if he was negative because he had been exposed.
So they were real strict.
And so they said, we have these vaccines if you want one.
They didn't tell me I had to take it, but they said, if you want one.
I said, sure.
I said, can I get it right before the fights?
And they said, sure.
And they didn't know that I had to go to the actual clinic or the hospital.
So I contacted the doctor.
I said, hey, I'm here.
Can you vaccinate me before the show?
He said, you actually have to go to the clinic on Monday.
Can you stay till Monday?
I said, I can't, but I'll be back in two weeks for the next event.
So during the time where I was gonna get shot and then two weeks later they pulled it.
So the Johnson& Johnson vaccine got pulled because people were getting blood clots.
And so then two people that I knew that did get it had strokes.
I don't know if it was a coincidence, but it seemed rather odd.
And then I started getting nervous.
And so then I started reading different things by different scientists that had opposing perspectives on both the efficacy and the safety of the vaccine.
And then I got COVID. And then when I got COVID, I got over it really quickly.
And then I got attacked on CNN. So I was like, okay, what's going on here?
Like, why are you guys upset that I took a certain medicine and got better?
I've never even heard of such a thing.
And they started labeling it, this ivermectin, as a horse dewormer, which is crazy because it won the Nobel Prize for People.
So it was like I was watching this bizarre thing take place in scale on mass media against me.
But against me in the most preposterous way possible because I was healthy.
I got better quick.
Like in three days I was better and I made a video.
In six days I was working out like full steam.
I didn't get sick for long at all.
And I listed a bunch of different medications that I took.
But for whatever reason, they labeled ivermectin as the thing that needed to be attacked.
And it was all in lockstep.
MSNBC, CNN, newspapers, all of them making these.
I got ridiculous statements that I was taking veterinary medicine.
I got medicine from a doctor, from a pharmacy, an actual human doctor, medication for humans.
And more importantly, I got better, like really quick.
What is happening here?
This is the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life.
It was like this mass psychosis that was propagated by the media who were only intent on keeping everyone terrified and offering only one solution.
And that solution just coincidentally happened to be insanely profitable.
I was a simple, easy to make fun of person who did a ridiculous thing and that's why they were able to say horse dewormer.
But it's such a dumb thing to say because this – we have – it was a playbook that would have been really effective in 1998. You could have gotten that done in 1998. The problem is – There's too much information that's available.
And when you're mocking a person for taking a drug that a human being won the Nobel Prize for in 2015 for its use in humans, that seems insane.
Also, you're knocking people taking off-label medication under the advice of a trained physician.
I just – that one wasn't one to be terrified of and they made us terrified of it which makes me terrified.
Because that was one where they – we talked about this in the podcast where they made fun of Donald Trump because he was saying it's less than 1 percent of the people who get it die and then CNN was mocking him saying it's 3.4 percent, 3.4 percent.
It was considerably less than 1 percent.
He was right.
But they had marching orders, and these marching orders was to scare the shit out of people and to tell them to get vaccinated.
Well, you know, nine days is better than California.
California, they did a whole year and a half of, like, complete restrictions.
They were stopping outdoor dining.
Just arbitrarily.
I had a friend and his brother works for the state, and he said to the lady who was in charge of it, he said, why are you stopping outdoor dining?
There's no evidence that there's spread through outdoor dining.
And she said, it's the optics.
The optics.
Like, we're going to shut businesses down for optics, because they had to show that they're doing something, because there's like a noticeable spread that's being reported in the media.
Well, it's also – the real problem is their jobs are not dependent upon their society functioning.
They get paid no matter what.
So society crumbles and all these businesses – they lost 70 percent of their restaurants at one point in time.
70 percent.
Just went under.
That's insane to continue a practice like that.
Especially where within six months they should have known that it wasn't as fatal as everybody said it was.
When they already had the data in about how come all these people that are dying they all have like significant amount of comorbidities.
How come all these people that are dying are over the age of 80?
It doesn't mean fuck those people.
It means protect those people but let everybody else Get back to work.
Like, you just have control of these people and you're continuing to enforce this control while their lives are destroyed.
How many people turned to drugs?
How many people committed suicide because they lost everything completely out of their power?
How many lives were lost?
How many kids had their childhood stripped away from them and have significant learning problems, not just because they didn't go to school, but because even when they went to school, they had to wear a mask.
So the whole reading people's lips and hearing sounds come out, everything was weird.
Reading faces was weird.
If you're a toddler and your experience is going through the first couple of years of your schooling and your preschool with fucking masks on, like, what is that?
I don't think people are going to accept the government, which is filled with a bunch of fucking silly people that have decided to run the government, having complete control over whether or not you can run your business, or you can decide to take a trip somewhere, or you could visit your parents when they're in the hospital.
Yeah, I'm just not that current on the literature.
There's a couple of things that occur that cause pineal calcification.
One is aging.
The older you get, the more calcification there is.
Back when I was current on the pineal physiology data, which was a long time ago, like 40 years ago, there wasn't a relationship between the degree of calcification in the human pineal and production of melatonin.
At least according to the data from the 80s, the degree of calcification wasn't functionally significant.
But I get an email here and there wondering if fluoridation of the pineal might reduce the production of endogenous DMT, which one might theorize takes place.
But we don't really know quite yet if the pineal even makes DMT, let alone if pineal calcification might reduce it.
Wouldn't it be interesting to measure different lifestyles and then also look at the age in which these people are and see if there's, like, when they die, if there's calcification?
You know, one person who's a marathon runner and they're 65 versus one person who's sedentary, drinks a lot, and they're also 65. Yeah.
I don't know how they got started with the whole fluoride in the water thing, but it seems like a giant scam.
Like Big Fluoride is still selling fluoride to all these different water departments and they don't want to stop.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
It doesn't make any sense that people would be willing to potentially sacrifice...
They're children's IQ. There's a direct correlation between high levels of calcium in the water – or excuse me, high levels of fluoride in the water and low IQs.
This has been established.
So if that's true, that should be a fucking giant red flag for people.
I mean once you eliminate all the other environmental things that may be consistent with the people that have lower IQs in children – If you're just pointing only to fluoride, if this is one thing that varies, this is a potential real problem.
We know that leaded gas reduced people's IQ. You know that, right?
When they used to have leaded gas, people like me and you who grew up at a time with leaded gas, you probably would have a 10-point higher IQ if you didn't grow up with leaded gas.
I mean, there's some sort of a percentage.
I think it's a small percentage, but it's been measured.
It's been measured.
Find out what percentage of a detriment is leaded gas to your IQ. Because they actually have done studies on people and like what happened once unleaded gas was introduced and how children's IQs went up.
They're all fucked up on lead poisoning and just willing to throw their soldiers to the lions.
Nearly half of US population exposed to dangerously high lead levels.
So what does this say about IQ? Here it goes.
Exposure to car exhaust.
Estimate childhood lead exposure has on average led to a reduction of 2.6 IQ points per person.
That's nuts.
Research also found that non-Hispanic black people, individuals with lower family income to poverty ratio, and those with an older housing age were likely to have higher levels of lead in their blood.
Well, probably because they lived in urban areas where there's more car traffic, right?
There was an area in Texas, I believe, where they had high natural levels of fluoride in the water, and there's a corresponding lower instance of cavities.
Yeah, with this, like, blue gun, you know, kind of gel that they would, you know, put in a splint and you put it on your upper and lower teeth for, like, five minutes or whatnot.
Well, you've got to wonder, the thing you were talking about before about some people just don't have imagination, which is really crazy to think that some people are just – they just got a bad hand.
I wonder if there is that kind of reaction with the first heart transplant or the first kidney transplant, if the originators of the methodology were demonized because they were putting somebody else's heart in your place.
And that wouldn't have even worked because your body would have rejected it back then because they didn't have the proper drugs that allowed people to accept other people's organs and suppress your immune system.
I never was in a heart transplant operating theater.
You know, once in an emergency room, actually, I was able to, you know, crack somebody's chest open and work on their heart, you know, kind of give it the massage.
Well, the person, you know, was quite sick.
He was dying.
And we tried everything.
You know, like everything.
You know, like we used a defibrillator.
We put some epinephrine in a big syringe, put it through his chest, into his heart.
Didn't help.
And, you know, the last thing that we could do was do open heart massage.
You know, medical training is a pretty interesting experience.
You know, the kinds of things that you learn to do to the human body and the kinds of things that people let you do to them because you're a physician.
It's a very interesting development of a role.
For example, when we first started working in the hospitals, there's a dress code.
This was 1976 or so.
There were lots of hippies in my class, and the dress code was to wear a tie.
And the hippies were saying, oh, forget ties.
And the teacher said, think what your mother would want to see her doctor wearing.
And everybody got all kind of guilt-ridden and, oh yeah, okay, our mom would like to see us wear a tie.
You work into a role.
How you look and how you talk and how you carry yourself.
It's a very interesting conditioning, social conditioning.
So, Regenikine is when they take your blood out, and it's like platelet-rich plasma, but they spin it in this centrifuge, and it creates this yellow liquid, which is like a super potent anti-inflammatory, and then they had injected it into my knees.
You're, like, essentially making a bet that, okay, you can chop off the end of my knee and in 20 years they're going to have some new thing.
The thing that would give me pause today, and again, I'm not giving medical advice, but if today biologics are coming so far that they're able to regenerate both meniscus tissue and also cartilage, so they can do that now.
And there was a study in Australia where they did that recently, and I think there's something else going on somewhere in the United States.
Where they're showing promise in that regard.
So I think if people could just hang in there for a little longer, according to my friend Brigham, who owns Ways to Well, which is a stem cell clinic out here, he is convinced that these kind of Super invasive surgeries are going to be a thing of the past.
They're going to be able to regrow tissue and literally fix knee problems, back problems, things along those lines.
I think that's one of the things that Paul Stamets talked about was doing it in a stack, like doing psilocybin along with, yeah, now exactly what it was.
Lion's mane mushrooms can promote neurogenesis and enhance memory.
Yeah, I take that stuff.
I take lion's mane all the time.
And I always wonder how shit would my memory be if I didn't take it.
Blindsight device being developed to restore vision and people have lost their sight.
No, there was one that was saying you're going to be able to have infrared, night vision, a bunch of different possibilities on top of the fact they're going to be able to restore sight that eventually...
I don't know how you'd Google this.
That wasn't just restoring memory, excuse me, restoring vision, but enhanced vision.
And that it's going to be far...
I think they're promising vision far greater than what human beings are personally capable of.
And then on top of that, you're going to be able to like zoom out.
So, you know, like you ever take like a Samsung phone, they have a 100x zoom, and you can just zoom in on something like way in the distance, like, wow, that's crazy.
You can really zoom in on stuff.
You're going to be able to do that with your eyeballs.
Musk explained, the blind sight device for Neuralink will enable even those who have lost both eyes and their optic nerve to see.
Provided the visual cortex is intact, it will even enable those who have been blind from birth to see for the first time.
Here's the part that truly expands the horizons of what we think visions can be.
At first, the vision will be low resolution, like Atari graphics, but eventually it has the potential to be better than natural vision and enable you to see in infrared, ultra-violent, or even radar wavelengths, like Geordi LaForge.
I mean, if you were going to prophesize about the end of humanity, you'd probably prophesize about someone accepting some sort of a chip in their brain and everybody being forced to do it, some matrix-type situation.
I could see why people wouldn't see.
It might be just the inevitable transition from biological to cyborg that we're probably going to have to go through anyway.
Well, you could see corporations as being in sort of a demonic state.
So if you have an obligation to your shareholders to consistently provide higher and higher profits every quarter, and in order to do that, you have to do things that will cost people lives and destroy people's lives.
Like, for instance, the Sackler family that got everybody hooked on opioids.
Is that not demonic?
That seems very demonic.
And if I was under the throes of its spell, if I had gotten caught up in opioids, it would be very similar to being possessed by demons, having your life ruined by devils.
Very similar, at least in result, right?
Especially if you wind up committing crimes because you want to get your drugs, you wind up in jail, your life is over, maybe you destroyed other people's lives.
It's very demonic in that way, like in the result, in the end result.
If you can lie about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction, and you can justify an invasion of Iraq based on these clear lies, and then through that invasion, 500,000 children starve to death because of embargoes, countless people are killed that didn't have to be killed.
The loss of at least a million lives over the course of the entire war and then the starving people afterwards?
I don't know what I believe in and what I don't believe in because I haven't experienced it.
Maybe if I experienced Satan, I'd be like, wow, Satan's real.
But you're allowed to believe in God.
But as soon as you start saying you believe in the devil, people look at you sideways.
You could be the president and you can say, God bless our troops.
Nobody bats an eye.
But if you say, the problem with America is the devil, and we will find the devil and we will root him out of our world, and that's what we're going to spend all your tax dollars on now.
You can pray for God to bless their troops and you could pray for protection from Satan's influence on the troops if you were able to put the two like on...
And then there have been many, many things that people have done.
You're like, wow, good exists in the world.
There is still good.
So we know both those things are real things.
We just don't know what's the root of them all and are there really angels and demons or are those the scapegoats for this bizarre dance of good and evil that just exists in the world?
So when you're talking about the biblical translations of the Adam and Eve story that we're all accustomed to, It's all a watered-down, sort of, or a strange translated version of the ancient Hebrew, but you've read the actual ancient Hebrew version of it.
Is it also possible that something completely different took place, but that over time and over a oral tradition of who knows how many hundreds of years before they actually wrote it down and then writing it down, you're getting a version of the actual event that's very different than what really took place, but you think about it like the version in the scripture.
And if you think about it in the version of the Scripture, are you thinking about it like as if this was an event as recorded, or are you thinking this is a representation of an archetype or some sort of moment in human history that they're trying to or are you thinking this is a representation of an archetype or some sort Well, if you consider— If that makes sense.
Well, if you consider the text to be prophetically received, Prophecy is communication between the divine and man, and the text was prophetically received.
In fact, Philo of Alexandria, one of Terence McKenna's heroes, used to say the most accurate historians were the prophets, because they heard it directly from the initiator of the event, the witness of the event, the one who could understand the event in the huge context.
You know, so it's a prophetically received text, which means it contains information received from a spiritual sort of level, which you would think is a universal field of sorts.
First of all, the fantastic story is told by Zechariah Sitchin.
So Zechariah Sitchin, who wrote The Twelfth Planet, and he wrote several other books, he was a biblical scholar and a linguist, and he spent a lot of time studying the ancient Sumerian text, the cuneiform.
And what he believes is that it tells a story of an ancient relationship between a race of beings on a far distant planet that's in an elliptical orbit, and it comes near Earth every 3,600 years, and that they had engineered human beings out and that they had engineered human beings out of lower primates.
They had, like, accelerated our evolution, and that all of what we know about the cosmos, all of what we know about...
They have these detailed...
I don't see the ancient tablets that have a detailed map of the solar system from 6,000 years ago.
Well, there are, you know, that is a story in the text, you know, before the flood, is, you know, the B'nai Elohim, you know, come down to earth, they have intercourse with You know, the daughters of man.
And out of those relationships comes this race of giants.
If they found some giants, Well, in the meantime, you can assume that the giants were real and understand their origin, what they were like, what they did, why they did it, what the results were.
Well, if it were true, that sort of is what everyone's seeing when they're seeing UFOs and UAPs.
They're probably visiting or they probably are always here.
They're probably watching to make sure we don't blow ourselves up and probably assisting us on our journey of evolving past this primitive, violent state that we currently find ourselves in.
Well, that's what's interesting about origin stories, right?
And that's what's interesting about the biblical texts is that there are these stories about things that have gone horribly wrong and influences different things that happened to humanity and different cataclysms and disasters and These stories are shared through different cultures, which is really interesting.
I don't like all the anger that comes out of it, all the people that get mad at him and the disparaging remarks and how some archaeologists have severely overreacted to it as if it's some horrific threat.
But it's fascinating, just the raw data.
About the size of these stones, their alignment with constellations, the fact that these things have been there for at least 4,500 years, some of them.
And some of them even further than that when you get to like Gobekli Tepe.
To me it's just incredible to imagine people living 11,000 years ago.