Nov. 22, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | ||
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The Joe Rogan Experience. | |
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! | ||
| Those are the three I probably have most iconic... | ||
| So what are the... | ||
| We're rolling now, so tell me what's like the most iconic beats you've created. | ||
| Oh, we're already rolling? | ||
| We're rolling. | ||
| Hey, fuck it. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| I mean, look, I've got... | ||
| Not hundreds, but thousands of songs? | ||
| Thousands, for sure. | ||
| Thousands of songs. | ||
| I'm told most often that most iconic or identifiable one is obviously still Dre. | ||
| We got... | ||
| Give me a little of that real quick. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Now, if you watch my fingers while I'm playing that, if I was just like a fucking sterile, if I was just like a fucking sterile, like just basic motherfucker, I'd be playing. | ||
| But I wanted to do it like... | ||
| Sloppy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like that perfect imperfection. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sometimes you want a nice sloppy booty or a nice monkey. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You don't want things always like perfect, picture perfect. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You like a little grit on your hardwood floor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| That's where, you know, that perfect imperfection. | ||
| How did you get started? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| How did you get started making beats? | ||
| What started you in music? | ||
| What started me in music? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All the way back? | ||
| All the way back. | ||
| All the way back. | ||
| Listening to Ozzy Osbourne and Cheap Trick in a mirror with a tennis racket, thinking, wow, I could probably get some girls to like me if I knew how to fucking play this shit. | ||
| And then my parents had an upright piano in the house, and it was a piece of furniture. | ||
| And I had a cassette deck. | ||
| At that time, it was all about cassettes. | ||
| And I had the little baby cassette thing. | ||
| I put it on the piano bench and figure out how to play all my favorite songs. | ||
| Just self-taught? | ||
| Yeah, and I ended up taking three or four lessons, and the guy was like, you should just teach yourself. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, and my family, we didn't have no money, and my mom, to get to the piano lesson, all that shit was just... | ||
| I did my thing, and it's at a point where My mom and dad were like, can you go outside and play with the kids? | ||
| I'm tired of hearing this shit. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| And then that evolved into... | ||
| I moved with my father. | ||
| My parents had divorced. | ||
| My dad was a court reporter, stenographer. | ||
| And we moved from... | ||
| I was born in New York as an infant moved to Florida. | ||
| But when I was 15, just turning 15, I moved to Philly with my dad. | ||
| And I was really getting into music. | ||
| I was experiencing hip-hop now in my head. | ||
| What year was this? | ||
| I don't even know what year it was. | ||
| How old are you now? | ||
| I'm 50. Okay, seven years different than me, so... | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| I'm real horrible with the years, but... | ||
| Talking early 90s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Extremely early. | ||
| The beginning of the big hip-hop boom out of New York. | ||
| Yeah, and when I first found a love for hip-hop, it was... | ||
| this music that they were sampling all these cool Fender Road sounds, like say, Tribe Called Quest. | ||
| That's not one of mine, but it was that like, relax yourself, girl. | ||
| That, like, native tongue, the de la soul, all that type of shit was heavy, and, like, I was like, wow, the music is really great in this. | ||
| It was different than, like, I mean, I loved N.W.A., and I loved, like, but that was, like, hardcore shit, and then, like, this musical guru and jazz and, like, all this shit was coming around. | ||
| So I got into that And I couldn't really afford a keyboard. | ||
| I'm living in Philly. | ||
| My dad was like, I was cutting school and going into the city from the burbs to like, get in the music scene at this young age. | ||
| And it was like, yo. | ||
| Go back to school and start that shit or get the fuck out. | ||
| He's trying to do me a favor with tough love but I decided to get the fuck out at 15 and now I'm like couch hopping at homies and that led to moving into the fucking hood In West Philly with this guy who was an aspiring manager that was a videographer that I met at my dad's court reporting firm. | ||
| And kind of like halfway against my dad's will, he took me in and we started hitting the pavement, man. | ||
| And I joined the Roots. | ||
| They were called the Square Roots at that time. | ||
| You know, the band on Jimmy Chow, Questlove, etc. | ||
| And... | ||
| I didn't have much money, and I bought what they call a Fender Rhodes. | ||
| This is like a big keyboard, which is, they're very expensive now because it's a vintage. | ||
| But at that time, I could get that for like 200 bucks. | ||
| And I got the keyboard, had a couple of broken notes on it and shit, and I just made my sound with that. | ||
| And it was just like this soulful, this thing, you know what I mean? | ||
| And I joined the roots, and now I'm a band member. | ||
| Simultaneously, I'm doing construction in Philly for a friend of mine who has these shell houses that I got to live in one for a while. | ||
| I got my first place. | ||
| I'm living in this thing. | ||
| He lived across the street in kind of a nice one. | ||
| This is a super horrible neighborhood, but he's got almost the whole block. | ||
| There's a construction site on the first floor. | ||
| I had to walk up, and this was a semi-finished one. | ||
| No electricity, but he ran a cord across the street and a power strip for my electricity. | ||
| I ran everything on that one power strip. | ||
| I had a fucking space heater like this because it was freezing cold. | ||
| I had a keyboard set up so I could... | ||
| I made my existence. | ||
| If I had never made it, I was like, man, I'll just play at bar mitzvahs and weddings and fucking call it a day. | ||
| But I'd rather do that than be a court reporter or some other shit. | ||
| And school wasn't for me. | ||
| Couldn't focus on anything but the music. | ||
| It always bums me out that there's so many people out there like that, that do have, they have intelligence and ability, but the system just wants them to plug into normal jobs. | ||
| You don't realize like, hey, there's other jobs out there. | ||
| There's other things you can do. | ||
| It's not conventional. | ||
| The path's not clear. | ||
| You know, you want to get into music? | ||
| You really fucking love music? | ||
| Get into music! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get into music! | ||
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| Find your niche within music. | ||
| Maybe you can do the actual music, but you can become a promoter or you can become... | ||
| There's so many different fields within music that you can do if you're an expert. | ||
| If you have no talent and you have no business being in music, at least be honest with yourself because we know if we're good or not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what makes talent? | ||
| Passion. | ||
| It's no talent. | ||
| If you're a passionate person and you love something so much, you're going to end up being good at it, I think. | ||
| If you're doing it to get money or something else, it's questionable. | ||
| You just want to be cool because you like music. | ||
| But if you're so passionate about this shit that you're showing results and you're growing and you're seeing that... | ||
| When you watch people's reactions, I still do to this day. | ||
| I'm in the studio. | ||
| I'm playing some shit. | ||
| Like, I have this, like, weird thing where I start receiving satellite, and I'm, like, playing, and I don't even know what to do. | ||
| Receiving satellite. | ||
| So, like, the muse. | ||
| I'm not even there anymore. | ||
| I'm just, like, all of a sudden, I'm just doing this thing. | ||
| I've been doing it for 30 years, and I watch The Room. | ||
| I'm like, oh, they like this one. | ||
| Okay, let's use this. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's how I know if I'm moving people. | ||
| Receiving satellite is a great way to put it. | ||
| I always say that sometimes I write things, I'm like, I didn't really write that. | ||
| You blacked out and it got written. | ||
| Yeah, that came from somewhere else. | ||
| I didn't have any effort involved in this. | ||
| It just came to me, like a gift from the gods. | ||
| That's why they always call it the muse, you know, because the people that were, you know, Shakespeare and those people, they really did kind of feel like it was being given to them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We all do though, right? | ||
| But doesn't everybody kind of say that when they're being honest? | ||
| Like anybody who writes anything, whether they write literature, whether they write music, comedy, whatever. | ||
| It flows through you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If you have to work for it, it's contrived, sort of, I feel like somewhat. | ||
| Like if something doesn't come... | ||
| I push myself, yes, because there's technical stuff that you have to, but that initial light bulb that goes off and just... | ||
| You're just in that zone. | ||
| Yeah, downloading satellite. | ||
| And the thing about it is it's so hard to control. | ||
| It comes, it goes, it's there, it's not... | ||
| What's that water you're drinking? | ||
| What is this crazy? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's bag water. | ||
| I'm going to tell you what it is. | ||
| I get, like... | ||
| Inflammation. | ||
| When I'm playing piano or whatever, I sometimes get a little bit like... | ||
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Okay. | |
| And this is like hydrogen water. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I fuck with it. | ||
| A friend of mine, my boy Adam, he's like, listen, I think you should try my water. | ||
| He's invested in all kinds of things, and he's just... | ||
| He's been one of my best friends my whole life. | ||
| He's got Adam Linder. | ||
| He's a fucking cool guy. | ||
| I've been down and out, and a fucking dude would take me in. | ||
| You know, we're both Meshuggins. | ||
| But, you know, he has this fucking water, and... | ||
| Him and, randomly enough, my boy who's a big songwriter, Pooh Bear, they're giving a go at this water thing. | ||
| But I like it. | ||
| It's H-factor water, dude. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard of that stuff. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| So when you say you're getting inflammation in your hands, like carpal tunnel type? | ||
| Yeah, sometimes if it's cold and my hands are freezing or something, I can't really go in. | ||
| Do you ever use CBD? Huh? | ||
| Do you ever use CBD or turmeric? | ||
| Yeah, I do that type of stuff. | ||
| I do like the little shots. | ||
| Yeah, you should do that all the time. | ||
| Raw ginger. | ||
| There's a place in LA that I like. | ||
| I don't have it in Miami. | ||
| I'm real tight with... | ||
| I don't know if you know Rick Solomon. | ||
| He owns this thing Sun Life. | ||
| They have great shit there. | ||
| I do that. | ||
| Oh, the Sun Life place in California. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, I do. | ||
| Rick has been an inspiration to me. | ||
| Everybody knows my story. | ||
| I look up to him because he was able to walk away from drugs very easily and stay there. | ||
| For me, I have a hard time with it. | ||
| I still struggle. | ||
| It's not drugs. | ||
| To put it bluntly, it's pussy and drugs together. | ||
| It's a kill of a combination and drug sex and all that shit. | ||
| You get caught up in that wave and it starts glamorously in your career of doing drugs and it just turns into something real ugly. | ||
| He walked away from me for a while. | ||
| He was like, bro, you're fucking up again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm in a great place now, man. | ||
| I got good people around me. | ||
| And... | ||
| I smoke and, you know, I make my music and I chill these days, man. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I've graduated. | ||
| I was trying to tell you about your hands. | ||
| Like, if you're getting inflammation and you're taking hydrogen water, like hydrogen water would be great, but if you really want to cut it down, what we were talking about earlier is the way to cut it down. | ||
| Stop eating things that give you inflammation. | ||
| That's the big one. | ||
| That'll change everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cut out all the sugar in the bread and you'll be amazed at how well you feel. | ||
| Bread. | ||
| I'm not really a sugar guy. | ||
| Some people eat sweets and shit. | ||
| Me, I go... | ||
| Lately, because I'm trying to lose a lot of weight, I've been eating fruit. | ||
| Constantly eating fruit. | ||
| Fruit's great. | ||
| And I feel so much better. | ||
| I drink water until I'm blue in the face and I'm not hydrated. | ||
| I eat fruits and shit like that. | ||
| I feel like it just sticks to your organs. | ||
| A lot of watermelon. | ||
| Watermelon's fantastic. | ||
| I love watermelon and apples. | ||
| Do you take any sort of electrolytes? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Regularly? | ||
| Gatorade. | ||
| I'm just trying to help you with your hands. | ||
| Yeah, Gatorade, but there's this other stuff. | ||
| I don't even know what it's called, but it's like a powder. | ||
| It's supposed to be less fattening, and you just put it in the water, and it's like an accelerator of dehydration. | ||
| Like liquid IV or something like that? | ||
| Something, yeah. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| There's a bunch of those that are really good. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| You know, you could take care of that. | ||
| Like, obviously your fingers are still working, but if you're starting to feel, like, real discomfort, there's some things you could do. | ||
| CBD's a big one. | ||
| CBD helps so much. | ||
| My friend Dave Foley, he had arthritis to the point where his hands were, like, totally crooked. | ||
| Couldn't straighten his hands out. | ||
| He started taking CBD and it all went away. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The benefits of... | ||
| And it's incredible. | ||
| It really is incredible. | ||
| The diet is a big one, too. | ||
| I think I'm getting my fair share of CBD and TFC. Not from the flour, but I like edibles, but not like dissolute. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I'm into rosin edibles. | ||
| The difference is the CBD, you can isolate just the CBD, and they can make it in much higher concentrates. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, like, I love this shit. | ||
| When I have muscle soreness, there's a CBD. No affiliation. | ||
| CBDMD has this product called Freeze. | ||
| It's 3,000 milligrams CBD. It's a roll-on. | ||
| It's a roll-on. | ||
| So if you have, like, sore muscles... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking great. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| But they have great... | ||
| Gummies and oils and CBD is fantastic. | ||
| Anytime you can eliminate inflammation in your life, that's good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whether it's your personal life or your body, just eliminate all the inflammation. | ||
| So many people tell me this wave of like sea moss. | ||
| Sea moss? | ||
| Yeah, like people like the benefits of... | ||
| Are you hearing about sea moss, Jimmy? | ||
| I've heard of it. | ||
| Are you hearing about people eating it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't tried it, but... | ||
| I'm a big believer in ribeyes. | ||
| Yeah, ribeyes. | ||
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Medium rare. | |
| I love that. | ||
| Little salt. | ||
| Butterfly with a char. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not really into your sea moss. | ||
| No, I've never tried the shit, but everybody's like, you should do sea moss. | ||
| Most of that shit is starvation food. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, people eat it when they couldn't find fish. | ||
| If you could find fish, you ate a fucking fish. | ||
| Why would you eat that stupid moss? | ||
| I think that's what most vegetables are. | ||
| Most vegetables are starvation food. | ||
| I fuck with salads. | ||
| I actually enjoy salads, but I'm going to put dressing on it and shit and destroy it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Some ranch. | ||
| A little Caesar vibe. | ||
| I just like oil and vinegar. | ||
| Olive oil and vinegar is all I like on salads. | ||
| But I like salads. | ||
| I eat salads. | ||
| I'm not like religious about it, but I just I know that when I'm only eating like meat and steak and eggs and I feel way better It's just like everything feels like it's in tune. | ||
| My brain works better. | ||
| My body feels more relaxed It's it's a tangible thing when I eat a lot of bullshit. | ||
| I feel it dude. | ||
| I met these Coming from like being a fuck in the middle of nowhere kid like not a rich kid not part of like a Some socialite type shit. | ||
| I came up to, like, a certain level of people that was, like, pretty insane. | ||
| Like, Russian multi-billionaires. | ||
| What is that, like, hanging around with those cats? | ||
| That's fucking bizarre. | ||
| That must be weird, because they'll get you killed. | ||
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Right? | |
| It could happen, yeah. | ||
| But, like, I'm hanging out with this one guy who's probably one of the richest men in the world. | ||
| And we're eating borscht. | ||
| He's like, schooltee! | ||
| You should eat soup every day. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| I know what I'm telling you. | ||
| I'm like, okay. | ||
| I eat a lot of soup. | ||
| Soup's good. | ||
| Soup is basically vegetable juice. | ||
| You're saying like the hot broth and shit like that is just super good for you to live longer. | ||
| Bro, I used to live in Los Angeles. | ||
| I used to go to Jerry's Famous Deli and get their chicken noodle soup. | ||
| They had the best. | ||
| Oh my God, their chicken noodle soup. | ||
| No chives though, I tell them. | ||
| Do they put chives in it normally? | ||
| Jerry's does, yeah. | ||
| But I like... | ||
| No, no, chives kind of? | ||
| I like dill. | ||
| Dill? | ||
| Dill, yeah. | ||
| Like, I got, like... | ||
| A Russian nanny and different things like that that work for me. | ||
| And they put that fresh dill in, oh my god, and that just changes everything. | ||
| That's like mama never made. | ||
| If you think about how cold Russia is, of course they make a good soup. | ||
| Anywhere that's cold is gonna make a good soup. | ||
| You don't hear like soup from Texas. | ||
| No. | ||
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Right? | |
| You hear chili. | ||
| You don't hear soup. | ||
| You don't hear about their soup. | ||
| Queso. | ||
| Queso? | ||
| That's kind of soup. | ||
| I had the butternut squash soup where you put me at last night. | ||
| It's Four Seasons. | ||
| That's just not my kind of soup. | ||
| It was good, but it's just not my favorite. | ||
| It's basically vegetable juice. | ||
| You're drinking hot vegetable juice, but of course it's good for you. | ||
| Table cream, all of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, that kind of stuff where they make the white swirls on the top like it's a latte? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fancy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very fancy, Scott. | ||
| So yeah, music, we started talking about how My music career evolved. | ||
| Pop time, Mike. | ||
| So earlier we were talking about where did it start, and I went all the way back. | ||
| So now I'm hanging with this guy Richard, the videographer I was saying that I met in my dad's office. | ||
| He took me in, started making an attempt to professionalize myself as a musician, joined the roots. | ||
| We got a record deal. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| I was now a very lucky guy to be involved in something cool, but I was bringing something real major to the table within the group. | ||
| And I just felt like after a while I wasn't appreciated. | ||
| And I was just going to be remembered as the guy who played Keys for the Roots. | ||
| And I wanted more than that. | ||
| I left the group for a multitude of reasons. | ||
| Some I usually don't talk about, but I, you know, boo-hoo, I felt some reverse racism. | ||
| I know that people have dealt with shit, like fucked up shit, but I was just kind of mortified once I'm on a stage and I just remember I'm performing with The Roots in New York, this event called The Black Lily, and playing the keyboards, backing everybody up, and this and that, and somebody was rapping. | ||
| They pointed at me, the white devil, something, and I was just like, what the fuck is happening here? | ||
| Were they serious? | ||
| Or were they joking around? | ||
| No, no, it was fucked up shit, bro. | ||
| It really hurt me, because I'm like, I don't see color. | ||
| I don't see any of that shit. | ||
| I'm the most... | ||
| Like just coolest motherfucker in that aspect like it to me racism bothers me, but it was like You know my family now we're not representing for me and that that's what that happened and just Combined so someone on stage said that yes one of the rappers I'm not gonna say names, | ||
| but just shit was just like how is this happening right now and you know I Felt like all the credit For all the like big melodies and stuff that I was creating for the group was just being swept under the rug and like I said I got to leave this group and I'm dating this girl at the time who is like Urging me not to she's saying you're gonna be the Pete best of the roots. | ||
| You know who Pete best is? | ||
| Yeah, the Beatle. | ||
| He left the Beatles. | ||
| Yeah, so she was a you're gonna be a Pete best of the roots. | ||
| I was like, that's cool. | ||
| She actually dumped me and I continued on my Journey, attempting to be a music producer and not join bands. | ||
| And I met this guy through the whole process of being in The Roots. | ||
| His name was Derek Jackson. | ||
| And he and I, he embraced me into, you know, you're so talented. | ||
| Like, let's give it a go. | ||
| And we would take these trips from Philly to New York and just go to every A&R, every fucking label, trying people that contacts that this guy Derek had in New York. | ||
| He was from New York. | ||
| He would just use them. | ||
| The first week we were doing that, we got a couple of bites. | ||
| My first client was Busta Rhymes. | ||
| I'll never forget it. | ||
| Busta believes me. | ||
| He's like, alright. | ||
| I went to the studio. | ||
| We made a record. | ||
| One shot, one kill, baby. | ||
| That's how it is. | ||
| You get one shot. | ||
| We made Blot Out, which was on his album, Anarchy. | ||
| And We also got that same week, maybe three days later, Capone and Noriega. | ||
| And CNN, the album. | ||
| Norie's got his whole world in podcasts now. | ||
| So he's proud of that guy. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| But they believed in me. | ||
| And the day I went in, I'll never forget it. | ||
| Capone, whose partner, was coming home from jail that day. | ||
| And the theme of the day was, I guess he got him some girls on the way to the studio to come work, and now he's like... | ||
| All day he kept saying, it's nothing! | ||
| It's nothing to come home from jail with these girls in your limousine and come work with me and Scotty and this and that. | ||
| It was just an amazing day. | ||
| We made music. | ||
| We made like three. | ||
| And then I was off to the races, man. | ||
| I was making music. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And a whole bunch of cool stuff in between there. | ||
| And then, still ain't make no money, but I'm now like... | ||
| Doing shit. | ||
| Is that you? | ||
| Yeah, let me shut this off. | ||
| Isn't it funny that fear of, like, the Pete Best type thing that's such a real thing? | ||
| In the beginning you don't have any idea what your future's gonna be. | ||
| Like, did I? And I would see shit on them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, they're appearing here or they're doing this and that. | ||
| It'd be like, fuck, but what did I do? | ||
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Right. | |
| I held in there. | ||
| And then... | ||
| A lot of people say this, but I'm a very harmonious person. | ||
| I always do good for everybody. | ||
| You can accuse me of being a lot of things, but being an asshole, I'm not. | ||
| When I was in my first trip to LA, I went to LA to perform it. | ||
| I did this open mic at the Martini Lounge. | ||
| It was my first time ever going to California. | ||
| It was a Roots event. | ||
| I wasn't in the group anymore, but whatever I had to do, I was going to make a few hundred bucks to go play background on this thing. | ||
| It wasn't the Roots. | ||
| It was an open mic with random people coming. | ||
| I did this thing. | ||
| And who do I see come up to me but a chick I knew from Philly. | ||
| And she was like, storage, what up? | ||
| She's like, you're not going to believe this, but I signed a record deal with Dr. Dre in Aftermath. | ||
| And I was like, wow, that's crazy. | ||
| So she's like, I'm going to hook you up with Trey. | ||
| You're always fucking good to me in Philly and you never tried to smash. | ||
| You let me go in the studio and we did cool stuff together. | ||
| And it was a platonic thing. | ||
| She was my homegirl. | ||
| And sure enough, I go and I meet up with Trey. | ||
| I'm waiting for him to come out. | ||
| I'm in the lobby, nervous as hell. | ||
| I don't have anything to play for him. | ||
| I have my fingers. | ||
| That's about it. | ||
| And I go into a room and he sits me down. | ||
| He's like, I hear you good at them keys. | ||
| I start playing for him and this and that. | ||
| He's real quiet and just like listening. | ||
| I'm like, nothing's coming from this. | ||
| I'm going to go home sad today. | ||
| He leaves the room. | ||
| I'm still sitting in there. | ||
| I'm like, I don't know if I should be just leaving or I'm supposed to stay in here. | ||
| And this dude, Larry Chapman, one of his head dudes comes back in and says, Dre wants you to stay here for a long time. | ||
| He's going to get you a hotel and here's some money. | ||
| It was like... | ||
| Really? | ||
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Okay. | |
| Dre wants you to stay here for a long time. | ||
| Yeah, he was just like, let me know. | ||
| Dre wants you here, man. | ||
| Like, you can stay? | ||
| Because I was going to get on a plane back to Philly that night. | ||
| And I remember I went back to the hotel. | ||
| I got all my shit, and now I'm being switched to like a fancy hotel. | ||
| And I'm like chilling, and I got some money. | ||
| I went and rented a fucking 5 Series BMW. And I was like, wow, I am in L.A. for the first time. | ||
| I have money. | ||
| I just met Dre. | ||
| I'm about to make a fucking album with Dr. Dre. | ||
| The next day I go to the studio. | ||
| I meet up with Dre. | ||
| He's telling me all kinds of cool shit, man. | ||
| He accepted me into his world. | ||
| It was surreal, bro. | ||
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It's a movie scene. | |
| It was surreal. | ||
| Dre wants you to stay for a long time. | ||
| I got this rapper that is really talented. | ||
| I believe in him. | ||
| He's a white boy and this and that. | ||
| In walks Eminem. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And he let me finish up some record that he was doing with him. | ||
| It was one of M's first releases at Just the Two of Us. | ||
| You know what I'm talking about? | ||
| And I played a little keys on that. | ||
| The next day, me and Dre went in to work on his project, and we made Big Egos, which made it to... | ||
| That's like that one shot, one kill thing. | ||
| That first day worked out. | ||
| It led to me being... | ||
| Along Dre's, you know, side and in his camp for a very long time. | ||
| But there's just a handful of dudes like you out there in the world that I call like a musical magician. | ||
| You know, there's people that people call upon. | ||
| You know, like, you gotta get storch. | ||
| I'm a producer producer. | ||
| Right, but what is that? | ||
| Like, what separates you from other musicians that makes you this savant? | ||
| Do you think about it or would that take away the magic? | ||
| Bro, I can barely tie my shoelaces. | ||
| Right, but you know how to bang out some beats. | ||
| I got this shit. | ||
| I was telling you about that Russian oligarch. | ||
| He looked at me one time and he says, Scotty, you're not playing this keyboard. | ||
| You're fucking the piano. | ||
| I don't know what you're doing. | ||
| I'm not an educated guy, but I have rhythm. | ||
| Like, on some different shit, like Bob James, like, your boys, the Black Keys. | ||
| Love those guys. | ||
| Look, not to jump around too much, but working with them is the first time, like, I feel like I did anything good. | ||
| I can't explain it. | ||
| I have all these hits, like, The Candy Shop, this, that, Beyonce, every single thing. | ||
| I feel like the first time I really... | ||
| Got into it on some real touch-the-culture real shit. | ||
| Not what's... | ||
| People like trap music and dumb shit like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is like the real as it gets. | ||
| And I got to use these vintage keyboards. | ||
| I'm playing shit with a wah-wah pedal on a keyboard and going crazy. | ||
| If you look at my Instagram sometime, you'll see some of the shit that I'm doing. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I watch it all the time. | ||
| Their studio is insane, man. | ||
| And those toys, I was really tapping in. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, it was so much fun. | ||
| I just love those two guys. | ||
| And they're so fucking talented, man. | ||
| We saw them out here at Stubbs. | ||
| Fuck, it was so fun, man. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Something about Nashville is a great place to make music, man. | ||
| Well, think about how much great music has come out of there, and then the memory of that shit has burned into the city. | ||
| I believe in that. | ||
| I believe that places have memory. | ||
| You know, I really do. | ||
| Yeah, you feel it. | ||
| I think there's an element. | ||
| I mean, it's not everything about a place, but I think places have memory. | ||
| I think that a place like Nashville, and also it's small enough because it's kind of a tight community. | ||
| Everybody kind of knows everybody. | ||
| There's so many musicians there, Kid Rock's there, Black Keys is there. | ||
| I was just with him. | ||
| Yeah, Kid Rock. | ||
| He told me he was... | ||
| Yeah, I ran into it at the UFC. Kid Rock's my favorite fucking thing of all time is going to his giant track of land in Nashville and seeing his fucking White House. | ||
| Yeah, like with the rotating dining room and the fucking crazy. | ||
| He's out of his mind. | ||
| He did well, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know I met him. | ||
| I met him. | ||
| He used to come up to the studio when we were making the Chronic album with Dre. | ||
| I think it was like visiting, I think, a lot with Eminem. | ||
| I don't know if he was doing some other stuff, but he was there quite a bit. | ||
| Cool guy, man. | ||
| Yeah, he's always at the UFC with Trump. | ||
| It's hilarious because Trump comes into American Badass. | ||
| The crowd goes nuts when they know he's there. | ||
| And then Kid Rock's behind him. | ||
| It's like the Republican Avengers. | ||
| Dude, I performed at Mar-a-Lago not long ago. | ||
| No way! | ||
| Yeah, I jammed out. | ||
| I did a Blacks for Trump thing. | ||
| It was cool, man. | ||
| Jeff Dye was telling me he's done stand-up at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| Yeah, he's a genius. | ||
| He got a sick operation over there. | ||
| That Mar-a-Lago is insane, bro. | ||
| I need to check it out. | ||
| We do this podcast called Protect Our Parks with Shane Gillis, Ari Shaffir, and Mark Norman. | ||
| It's a crazy podcast. | ||
| We get hammered. | ||
| Drink a beer out of like this giant freedom bong. | ||
| It's like an eagle's asshole you're drinking the beer out of. | ||
| And we talked about doing one from Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| We might do that still. | ||
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That's cool. | |
| I'm supposed to go there. | ||
| I think I'm going to go there for us on the 13th. | ||
| They're doing some kind of event like... | ||
| Roaring 20s vibe dinner and then like a whole weekend of... | ||
| Roaring 20s? | ||
| Like you wear the outfits? | ||
| I'm not gonna but like... | ||
| Bro, I would wear one of them outfits. | ||
| That'd be badass. | ||
| What did they wear? | ||
| What's like a roaring 20s outfit? | ||
| Zoot suit. | ||
| I would imagine that's like... | ||
| Double-breasted. | ||
| Yeah, like the Peaky Blinders. | ||
| What those dudes wore. | ||
| What do they wear in their 20s? | ||
| The Shelby's. | ||
| Zoot suits, man. | ||
| What do they wear? | ||
| Roaring 20s men. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, that looks slick. | ||
| Those hats, look at that. | ||
| They all wore hats. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Lucky Luciano shit going on. | ||
| Isn't that crazy that, like, nice hats just went away? | ||
| We were talking about that the other day. | ||
| We were watching an old-school fight with Jack Johnson, and every man on the street, like, waiting in line for the fight, all the people in the audience for the fight, all of them had fancy hats on. | ||
| Men used to just wear fancy hats. | ||
| Something happened. | ||
| Fancy hats just fell apart. | ||
| Like, if you were in the fancy hat business in 1920, be like, bro, we got it forever. | ||
| Fancy hats ain't going away. | ||
| But fancy hats completely fucking went... | ||
| There were a couple companies. | ||
| A friend of mine was wearing a hat. | ||
| He's like, you know, this hat's like four grand. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| It's like some fancy company. | ||
| I'm sure there's companies, but it's not like everybody's... | ||
| Like baseball hats, everybody buys baseball hats, you know? | ||
| But fancy hats? | ||
| They just went in LA. If you would ask those fancy hat people, do you think one day the president will be wearing a baseball hat or a fancy hat? | ||
| They'd be like, a fancy hat. | ||
| He's the fucking president. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Make America great again. | ||
| Baseball hat with a suit on. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Fancy hats just fell out of style. | ||
| Yeah, I think... | ||
| You can't bring it back either. | ||
| It's become a much more casual world, I believe. | ||
| And it's like, I mean, sometimes I always bitch like, ah, people knew how to dress. | ||
| When we used to go out, I would put on a sport coat and wear, you know. | ||
| But like, at the end of the day, like, I get it. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| It's nice to dress up sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
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It's fun. | |
| It's a pain in the ass sometimes. | ||
| Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. | ||
| Lately, I've just been changing my whole fashion ways, like... | ||
| A friend of mine said something. | ||
| He's like, even though I have nice things, he's like, you don't need a Ferrari. | ||
| Be the Ferrari. | ||
| When you walk in a room, you're on South Beach and all these fucking guys that barely have a pot to piss in are getting out of the Lambo and the fucking valet. | ||
| I was the king of that shit. | ||
| I was filthy rich and did all that shit. | ||
| I might as well have just landed a fucking spaceship on top of the club. | ||
| I was doing everything, but lately it turns me off. | ||
| I look at myself and I feel like a poser. | ||
| I feel like the richest guy in the room is wearing a fucking bare bones, no diamonds type shit. | ||
| Well, look at Elon Musk. | ||
| Dude wears Occupy Mars t-shirts. | ||
| Doesn't even have a watch. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, it's just hanging. | ||
| That's where I'm at. | ||
| I think what happens is in the beginning you want everybody to know you're doing well, so you have all your stuff on. | ||
| You dress real nice. | ||
| You know, you're like, wow, Scott looks good. | ||
| He looks sharp. | ||
| But then when you're undeniable, you reach a point in your life where you're just like, who am I doing this for? | ||
| This is stupid. | ||
| Well, if you're like me and you have a point in your life where you had a hundred million dollars, And you were trying to impress everybody and you fucking didn't have any respect for everybody. | ||
| Like my financial manager walked away from me back in the day and said, you're unmanageable. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You going crazy? | ||
| I was going, I was spending so much money. | ||
| But look, you're still here. | ||
| I had fun. | ||
| I had tons of fun. | ||
| I bet you had a good time. | ||
| But when you lose everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to, like, fake it and be like, oh, no, I still got it. | ||
| And, like, I'm the guy with the most obnoxious set of diamonds. | ||
| And I'm broke as shit. | ||
| Because I just wanted the look of art. | ||
| My ego wouldn't let me let go of that shit. | ||
| That's a negative feedback loop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that doesn't feed into art either. | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
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It's the opposite. | |
| It doesn't. | ||
| I had to get rid of all of that. | ||
| I had to, like, really take it back to nothing. | ||
| Like, I don't care about labels and shit. | ||
| I like nice things. | ||
| Look. | ||
| I don't have to do the pull-up on the club, but look, there's nothing wrong with a fucking 911. It's just a great car. | ||
| Yeah, there's amazing engineering. | ||
| I do it for me now. | ||
| Whatever I do, I'm really getting into my music. | ||
| I'm getting into a lot of things. | ||
| I appreciate both things. | ||
| I appreciate people who dress real nice, and I appreciate people who don't give a fuck. | ||
| I think there's a place for everybody. | ||
| There's a happy medium. | ||
| Yeah, and then the stuff is not life. | ||
| Life is not your stuff. | ||
| No. | ||
| But some stuff is fucking cool. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Like, Cat Williams when he was here, he wasn't even living here or staying here, and somehow or another he got an electric Rolls Royce. | ||
| So he's here for a day to do a show, and wasn't he doing a show somewhere else or something? | ||
| Like an arena somewhere? | ||
| But one of the things he said, he said, when you're sitting in this car, you know where you spent your money. | ||
| Because it's like, you go, oh, I know why this is $600,000. | ||
| Look how fucking amazing this thing is. | ||
| Lights on the ceiling. | ||
| I love nice things. | ||
| I just like them for different reasons. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You don't like them for showing off. | ||
| You like them because you like them because they're awesome. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with luxury. | ||
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Yes! | |
| There's nothing wrong with luxury. | ||
| The problem is you trying to show everybody your luxury instead of just enjoying it. | ||
| Like, look in my car. | ||
| Or prioritizing it before your children. | ||
| Before anything. | ||
| Before anything. | ||
| Before food. | ||
| It shouldn't come before anything. | ||
| It should be just a fun thing. | ||
| And when you get to a level of success that you're at, if you don't figure that out, that's when it's the saddest. | ||
| When someone makes a ton of money and doesn't go, oh, it's not about the things. | ||
| It's about the relationships that I have. | ||
| It's about my friends. | ||
| It's about my loved ones, my family. | ||
| It's about the people that I work with. | ||
| It's about everybody having a good time. | ||
| It's about let's all get together and break bread and eat and hug each other and tell each other we love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| The car is just like, look, that's cool, dude. | ||
| Yeah, it's icing. | ||
| Yeah, if you pull up in a cool car, I'm like, check it out, what do you got? | ||
| But that is all some people have to offer in their life, and they think that that is great. | ||
| Well, you know, the problem is that's seemingly the most unattainable thing. | ||
| When you're broke, and you see some guy who pulls up in a brand new 911, you're like, what the fuck? | ||
| This is yours? | ||
| It's mind-blowing. | ||
| I had Bugattis and all kinds of shit. | ||
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You had those things? | |
| I had everything. | ||
| I won for the best car collection on fucking MTV Cribs. | ||
| I had like 26 cars, bro. | ||
| If you name... | ||
| I had like $10 million cars. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Like crazy shit. | ||
| Like, I'm an idiot. | ||
| But at any rate... | ||
| Yeah, but those are fun too. | ||
| If you can afford it. | ||
| No, yeah, but I lived a billionaire's life as a millionaire. | ||
| I had $100 million. | ||
| I thought I said $100 billion in my account. | ||
| I thought there was an extra zero. | ||
| But recently, I met a guy... | ||
| You just met Kevin. | ||
| Kevin is a fucking, like, just a great person. | ||
| I had met him years and years ago. | ||
| He was the head of security for 50 Cent. | ||
| And he brought 50 to my house to do the candy shop. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And that's when I met him. | ||
| I lost touch with him for so many years and just, you know, not so long ago, just re-met him at this studio. | ||
| This guy, Bebe, at Circle House said, yo, I got you. | ||
| This guy wants to... | ||
| You've met him before, but he wants to meet you. | ||
| He's now... | ||
| The owner of the Platinum Security Group, which is, like, one of the largest corporate security companies in the nation. | ||
| Like, this guy owns so much real estate, he owns half of Boca Raton. | ||
| He's, like, a major freaking guy. | ||
| And he, like... | ||
| We started, he wanted to, you know, initially hire me to do some music for some artists and he had a record label and we ended up partnering on that record label and partnering on these different type things that were, you know, different projects and shit that we're doing. | ||
| And he was like, yo... | ||
| First of all, you need to get the fuck out of Miami, and I want you to move an hour north to Boca so you can focus and really make the music. | ||
| Stop worrying about... | ||
| Because Miami, like, starts slipping into my old ways, and girls are every day. | ||
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Miami is crazy. | |
| It show up, and it's a cesspool, bro, and it's so much fun, and it's so fucked up, and there's so much ass, and there's so much drugs, and there's so much everything, and it's like, fuck that. | ||
| You should have to have a passport to go to Miami. | ||
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Right. | |
| That is not America. | ||
| That's a new thing. | ||
| That's a new thing. | ||
| Miami's wild. | ||
| It's good to go there if you need to fucking be there. | ||
| The energy in that place is amazing. | ||
| Down the road is beautiful waterfront living and normalcy. | ||
| And just far enough to where the garbage is not going to hit you every day. | ||
| You can get there if you want. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, yeah, you're outside. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| Attack it from the outside. | ||
| Move up here. | ||
| Since I did that and followed his lead, so many great things are happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even just, like, unlocking. | ||
| You know how you block your blessings? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Like, I was blocking my blessings, and now they're starting to come. | ||
| I'm here with you talking and telling my story, and, like, things like that are happening, great things. | ||
| I have an artist that, you know, I'm working on. | ||
| I have... | ||
| My album. | ||
| I decided, like, you know how Khaled makes an album? | ||
| He's got all these different people. | ||
| And I'm like, you know what? | ||
| I've made my whole life of us making hit records for labels and for their artists. | ||
| Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects? | ||
| And, um... | ||
| Yeah, I'm putting out a slew of singles. | ||
| This girl, Abby Stare, that Kevin introduced me to, is so amazing. | ||
| I think there might be a picture somewhere that I was told, because I'm using her... | ||
| For my single, for my first single, even though we're going to be developing her album, but I'm doing my single featuring her, and then a whole bunch of other ones that I'm going to be putting out. | ||
| I have one with Young Blue, and I have tons of singles, but we have this song. | ||
| Yeah, I'm excited, man. | ||
| I'm doing the things I always wanted to do. | ||
| I'm taking full-on initiative now. | ||
| And you think moving an hour outside Miami was a big part of that? | ||
| I think, yeah, in order to just... | ||
| Balance? | ||
| Yeah, balance myself. | ||
| You need balance, man. | ||
| You need to be able to go hard, but you need to be able to recover, relax, and focus. | ||
| You need privacy. | ||
| Solitude so you can think. | ||
| Everybody needs that. | ||
| You need balance in your life. | ||
| If you don't, you lean in one direction. | ||
| It's like your body. | ||
| If you only work out your biceps, your fucking hips are gonna go. | ||
| Something's gonna go wrong. | ||
| You're gonna fuck your body up with imbalance. | ||
| You're gonna fuck your life up with imbalance. | ||
| Everything needs some sort of a balance, and everybody's balance is different. | ||
| For a guy like you who goes hard, you probably should get the fuck out of Miami. | ||
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You probably should be living in Boca with all the quiet people. | |
| Yep. | ||
| And I'm loving it. | ||
| If I need to go to Miami, I'm going to go to Miami. | ||
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One hour. | |
| It's one hour. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| How hard is that? | ||
| I love Florida. | ||
| It's just a fucking crazy-ass place. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Crazy-ass place filled with reptiles. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| And they literally were walking around on your dock. | ||
| There's so many. | ||
| Giant iguanas falling out of trees when it gets cold out. | ||
| Yeah, it's funny as shit. | ||
| It's just such a fucked up place. | ||
| But it's so fun. | ||
| There's so many good things. | ||
| And during the pandemic, I think people started to really appreciate Florida. | ||
| So many people moved down there. | ||
| They're like, hey, you can just live here. | ||
| You don't have to just be under the tyrannical control of the government. | ||
| Look, the Northeast was a great place as a young guy to build strength and the changing of the seasons, scraping the ice off your fucking windshield and just learning about being a man, wearing Timberland boots because you're fucking freezing cold. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| I think every young person should have to, like, experience that. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Not just, like, sunshine. | ||
| Bro, I grew up in Boston. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And, you know, it's cold as fuck in the winter. | ||
| When I was a kid, we made money by shoveling snow. | ||
| And that, you know, that's back-breaking fucking work, shoveling long, steep driveways and shit for a hundred bucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, but if you could do that and do that all the time, like, you build resolve. | ||
| You're out there freezing. | ||
| Your hands are numb. | ||
| You know, we'd play outside in the snow. | ||
| Your fucking hands would go numb. | ||
| You'd come in, you can't feel your feet. | ||
| It makes you stronger. | ||
| It makes you stronger. | ||
| Scraping the ice off your windshield before you go to work. | ||
| Salting the walk. | ||
| I feel bad for people that don't grow up in those environments because I really think it gives you a little extra edge. | ||
| And those changing of seasons are amazing. | ||
| Different feelings, different moods. | ||
| All my favorite comedians for the most, well, that's not true. | ||
| I was going to say that, but then Kinnison. | ||
| He was from Texas. | ||
| Sam. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that was different. | ||
| That dude was, that's a different thing. | ||
| I always think about back to school. | ||
| When I think about Sam Kinnison, I don't know why, my mind just goes right there. | ||
| Was he right? | ||
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Was he right? | |
| I was there! | ||
| That dude's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, he was awesome. | ||
| I have an appreciation for film. | ||
| I have an appreciation for comedians. | ||
| I grew up... | ||
| I was buying Richard Pryor albums as a kid and Eddie Murphy albums. | ||
| I spent a lot of time... | ||
| I became good friends with Mike Epps. | ||
| A lot of comedians. | ||
| Comedians are tortured souls, you guys. | ||
| I think a lot of... | ||
| That whole comedy tragedy thing is very serious. | ||
| For many. | ||
| Yeah, there's something to that. | ||
| But it's... | ||
| You just gotta figure out how to balance it, like we were talking about before. | ||
| For me, I balance it out with exercise. | ||
| Exercise and saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that. | ||
| That's how I balance it out. | ||
| That's how I keep my mind straight. | ||
| But if I didn't, I would be spiraling, just like all of them. | ||
| I think you need something in your life that's more difficult than your life. | ||
| Something that you do, that you choose to do, that's more difficult than regular life. | ||
| Because then it makes regular life way more manageable. | ||
| Well, it's kind of cool. | ||
| I'm 50 and I'm like inspired like when I was in my early 20s and just like doing the music. | ||
| And it's like sometimes I get reminded of like the fact, you know, like when you try to like keep up, like there's a session like and you're gonna have to go meet little baby at 3 in the morning. | ||
| And you're 50. Okay, fuck it. | ||
| I just do it. | ||
| I just have to compensate for it. | ||
| I could have just went for days back in the day without drugs. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Now it's like, alright, I'm going to sleep real late because I'm going to have to go at 3 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| So is that like a standard thing? | ||
| Like when rappers come and they want to work with you, do they generally want to work late at night? | ||
| Rappers? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They all want to work late at night. | ||
| And my biggest problem is... | ||
| I know. | ||
| I can't always tell them that. | ||
| Like, sometimes you should just send them CDs and shit, but I know when you get in a room and you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you're feeling their energy, that's when the best records happen. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| These dudes, like, a lot of dudes are not, like, with it, but there's some are. | ||
| That's the extra magic, right? | ||
| Yeah, I think the best artists want that. | ||
| The ones that aren't really artists, they just want some bullshit to rap on, some more bullshit. | ||
| But there's something, you're exchanging something as human beings. | ||
| You're with that person. | ||
| You're experiencing them, they're experiencing you, the music, the song, everything together, the lyrics. | ||
| That's a human experience. | ||
| That's why I refuse to do Zoom podcasts. | ||
| Like some people in other countries. | ||
| They wanted to be on a screen and just sit in their living room. | ||
| You gotta fly here, bro. | ||
| You gotta be in the room. | ||
| I'll give you a perfect example. | ||
| I got a call a week ago, FaceTime, and it was J. Cole. | ||
| I was chilling. | ||
| I was like, oh shit, it's J. Cole. | ||
| My neighbor thinks I'm selling dope. | ||
| He says, yo, Storch, I figured out a way that I can harness that Storch thing. | ||
| You're in Florida. | ||
| I'm flying there. | ||
| So I'm going home from this tomorrow. | ||
| He's going to be there the next day. | ||
| We're going to be working at a hit factory. | ||
| But he gets it. | ||
| We were just listening to neighbors in the green room last night. | ||
| We were all going, motherfucker, I am. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| I'm excited when somebody wants to get in the room and they have an idea of what they feel like out of the Scott Storch bag of tricks. | ||
| They want to harness or encompass and like that. | ||
| Well, you're also a guy that you find out you're working with Scott Storch that day, everybody gets fired up. | ||
| Because you've had so much success that there's this excitement about you. | ||
| And you're in the room and that creates additional inspiration. | ||
| I get my all to all clients because if somebody's going to be in a room when I'm not there and they're like, this is the one Scott Storch did, That shit had better. | ||
| If I like the artist or I don't, whatever the hell it is, they have to be like, yo, that beat is fucking flames. | ||
| So I give my all to shit. | ||
| And for some reason, man, like I said, this is one of the few things I can just do over and over again. | ||
| I do it good. | ||
| I give results. | ||
| Nothing always sounds the same if somehow I manage to pull it off. | ||
| I just remember Dr. Dre telling me, yo, Because his work ethic is crazy. | ||
| He says, you don't have to be on every day, just most days. | ||
| And it stuck with me. | ||
| And I was like, yeah, man, like, you know, you gotta be known for being the guy that hit home runs almost every time. | ||
| Not every time, but almost every time. | ||
| But when you're dealing with something that involves creativity, it can't be every day. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| You're asking too much of the muse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's also the problem with being a workaholic. | ||
| You're going hard all the time. | ||
| You're constantly working. | ||
| And you're going to have your hitses and you're going to have your misses. | ||
| And that's just a part of the process. | ||
| I go hard with everything that I do. | ||
| Whether it be a bad thing or a good thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Most people do. | ||
| I got, like, you know... | ||
| The same energy I give to that, to the music and shit, I was giving to the wrong things for a while. | ||
| A good friend of mine, we were talking about a buddy of ours that died. | ||
| He died from pills. | ||
| And he was super clean. | ||
| He was a professional pool player. | ||
| Like a really world-class pool player. | ||
| Super clean. | ||
| Never did anything. | ||
| Never drank. | ||
| Never smoked. | ||
| Got in a car accident. | ||
| Fucked his back up. | ||
| Started getting on pills. | ||
| And pain pills, to him, he chased pain pills the way he chased being the best in the world at pool. | ||
| The same thing that got him to be a wizard at playing pool, that same obsession, that same obsession got wrapped up in the pills. | ||
| And he died. | ||
| He died young. | ||
| And we were talking about him like that is what it is. | ||
| That's where obsession and addiction cross paths. | ||
| One can serve you, one can ruin you. | ||
| And they're the same energy. | ||
| It's just how you channel the fire. | ||
| You can channel the fire to wood and cook your food or you can channel it to your house and now you're fucked. | ||
| Where do you put the fire? | ||
| How do you direct it? | ||
| And if you direct it the right way, you can have an amazing life and do all kinds of cool shit and have a great time and meet cool people and have a fun life. | ||
| Or you can do it the wrong way and just be on skid row, covered in scabs. | ||
| It's hard to balance sometimes things that take over your soul, like pills and shit like that. | ||
| Later, I want to talk to you about it. | ||
| I got into the business of rehab. | ||
| Not for money. | ||
| I got into the business and we have to help people, but that's later. | ||
| Honestly, like, I got... | ||
| My whole life was just all music, music, music. | ||
| I loved music. | ||
| I loved going in my fucking car and just listening to the things I loved, like music. | ||
| I love music of the 70s. | ||
| I love Marvin Gaye. | ||
| I like all this fucking incredible music, Earth Wind and Fires. | ||
| That's where it all comes from. | ||
| So I based my music on the past 50 years of music, 100 years of music. | ||
| And I was doing good. | ||
| I smoked pounds of weed, made my music, lived a very healthy life and became very rich. | ||
| And I was in a bubble for so long that one day I'm living in a house That Ivanka Trump recently just bought. | ||
| It was my house on Indian Creek Island, okay? | ||
| Which I owned outright. | ||
| I bought the fucking house for cash from the widow of the founder of Southern Wine and Spirits. | ||
| And I bought this house. | ||
| It was fucking massive topiary gardens and incredible thing. | ||
| I was living a healthy life. | ||
| And I wasn't in my mind like... | ||
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Cool. | |
| But I was like happy. | ||
| I was cool. | ||
| That was as cool as it gets because I was balanced and healthy and doing what I love to do. | ||
| But I felt like... | ||
| I was yearning for something bad, or I don't know what I was yearning for, but this girl ended up showing up at my doorstep. | ||
| A very famous girl. | ||
| Look, I'm not playing the blame game or anything, but a course of events happened. | ||
| Paris Hilton shows up at my door, initially to work on music. | ||
| And we ended up connecting and I learned this whole new way of life, like with paparazzis and being like next to her and then, excuse me, inevitably hooking up with her and we're now an item and shit and we're, you know, kind of like... | ||
| We're having tons of fun. | ||
| We're good friends, but I think we're both using each other in a certain way, like, where I'm, like, so excited to be next to this girl who's, like, the coolest, most famous girl in the world. | ||
| She's, like, my girl. | ||
| And, like, she's next to a few... | ||
| Her passion was, at that time, music, and she was, like, next to me. | ||
| I'm the number one music producer in the world at the time. | ||
| And it went on, and then, inevitably, the nightlife led to fucking... | ||
| Cocaine. | ||
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She don't lie, she don't lie. | |
| First year, year and a half, going here on planes and Saint-Tropez and St. Bards and the flyest shit you could do and flyest, the best fucking coke and all that shit, just having a blast. | ||
| And then it just goes bad. | ||
| And then it's just like you have a relationship. | ||
| You've seen the movie Blow. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You've seen how hot Penelope Cruz and Dewar in the beginning are into each other. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| There's no happy ending. | ||
| Your foundation gets rotted out under you. | ||
| Yeah, and my A-list life was born there. | ||
| I was now in that situation. | ||
| I ended up with Kim Kardashian and All these different things. | ||
| She wasn't even famous at that point, but she's cool, man. | ||
| She's always been a great person. | ||
| I gained a lot of respect for her when she started working for criminal and prison reform. | ||
| Yeah, that just shows. | ||
| That sits from the heart, too. | ||
| Advocacy for people that are wrongfully accused. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| She's done a lot of good things. | ||
| That lady's gotten a lot of people out of jail. | ||
| Look, as long as I've known Kim, she's never been anything but just a super sweet person. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I met her before the fame. | ||
| We dated before the fame. | ||
| I was a hot mess. | ||
| I was the fucked up one when we were together. | ||
| I just was not focused. | ||
| I was just thinking about strippers and drugs and this and that. | ||
| It was just, I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life. | ||
| I had a session. | ||
| I moved to Palm Island from Indian Creek because... | ||
| Everything I was doing I was trying to impress Paris and like I knew that everybody wanted to be on Star Island and Palm Island and like close to the party, South Beach. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was South Beach, South Beach. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I didn't know that where I was living already was the Big Daddy. | ||
| Like those houses, you have to be a... | ||
| Everybody's there, like Bezos. | ||
| Everybody's there now, like where I was. | ||
| I moved to this house on Palm Island. | ||
| I go from a 90-foot yacht to a much bigger yacht. | ||
| I take these leaps just trying to impress her and just blow her mind, even though she didn't need that. | ||
| Trapped? | ||
| Yeah, it was all some weird mental thing. | ||
| A lot of people get caught in that spiral when they start making money. | ||
| I didn't want to be famous. | ||
| I wanted to be the most famous. | ||
| I wanted to be the biggest boss, not just a boss. | ||
| I had to be that guy. | ||
| Boy. | ||
| And when I lost everything, it was like... | ||
| It was bad news. | ||
| And, look, I had Janet Jackson at my house to do a session. | ||
| Pre or post-nipple at the Super Bowl? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| I don't remember the nipples. | ||
| But I remember this sweet, cool lady. | ||
| When I met Janet... | ||
| I was told to not even really talk to her, more like talk to somebody. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Yeah, it was like, pass your message and tell this person that they're going to relay it. | ||
| Even in the same room. | ||
| To the point where within a few hours... | ||
| When you're collaborating with music? | ||
| Just for the first few minutes this happened, and then like... | ||
| Dude, we became like homies. | ||
| I was like, fuck that. | ||
| Well, sometimes it's the handlers that fuck them. | ||
| The handlers. | ||
| I've seen people, they give themselves extra importance by saying, if you want to talk to her, you have to talk to me first. | ||
| Yeah, like creating a droll for themselves. | ||
| And creating a little bit of insecurity on your part, too. | ||
| Don't address Ms. Jackson. | ||
| Address me, I'll address Ms. Jackson. | ||
| That's exactly it. | ||
| I don't even know about all that. | ||
| By the end of the day, I was smoking my weed. | ||
| I was telling her about the different kinds I had in these New York plastic jars and this and that. | ||
| Just cool as hell. | ||
| But flash forward to now she's coming to Palm Island to work. | ||
| I left her at my house for like seven or eight hours because I wanted to go to the Gold Rush and go get some blow and hang out with strippers. | ||
| It was just like... | ||
| Are you fucking serious? | ||
| You're really gonna do that? | ||
| You don't see it at the time because it's out of your fucking mind. | ||
| You're out of your fucking mind. | ||
| Out of my mind. | ||
| Out of my tits. | ||
| So much regret for things like that. | ||
| When you have so much money and you have power and fame, you have too much possibility. | ||
| There's too many things that can entice you. | ||
| And if you're doing blow and going to strip clubs all the time, it's just like, more titties in my face, please. | ||
| Let's keep doing it. | ||
| Let's keep partying. | ||
| Let's stay up. | ||
| It's selfish. | ||
| And you're not thinking about it. | ||
| Because what are they saying, good fellas? | ||
| Ah, your brain's going to mush. | ||
| It's imbalanced. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's imbalanced. | ||
| It's like what we were talking about. | ||
| You need a balance. | ||
| The A-list parties turn to B-list parties. | ||
| The B-list turns to C-list. | ||
| The C-list turns to fucking street urchins. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I've had some fucking funny moments, though. | ||
| Like, I remember having a party. | ||
| It was like a Super Bowl party. | ||
| I had like... | ||
| Seven or eight hundred people at my house. | ||
| And, like, everybody's, like, fizzling out. | ||
| It's now, like, nine in the morning, ten in the morning. | ||
| I think Snoop was there. | ||
| Mike Epps was there. | ||
| Different people were hanging out, lingering, chilling. | ||
| Like, family people. | ||
| Now it's, like, friends and shit. | ||
| And, like, there's a knock on my door at, like, 10 a.m. | ||
| And it's Pamela Anderson. | ||
| And that shit was the funniest shit. | ||
| In my house, living with me at that time was one of my favorite people. | ||
| And I knew he was upstairs, like, sleeping or whatever. | ||
| My good friend DMX, God rest his soul. | ||
| And Pamela was showing up, and I was like, yo, ex! | ||
| Yo, ex! | ||
| Check this out! | ||
| I was all geeked out and, like, thinking it's so funny that I got Pamela coming to my house at 10 in the morning. | ||
| And he comes over the railing of my house, and he looks over, Baywatch! | ||
| And then he just walked back away. | ||
| He walked back in the fucking thing. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| X was living with me, man. | ||
| It was like the blind leading the blind. | ||
| I'm a coke addict and he's a crack addict. | ||
| And I'm trying to help him. | ||
| I'm like, man, you really need to get clean, man. | ||
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It's like, what the fuck is real? | |
| So I'm like, yo, you need to go to rehab. | ||
| So I get him, I convince him to avoid a jail sentencing for something, a charge that he had, whatever. | ||
| He went to rehab and was getting his shit together. | ||
| The place that I had gone that didn't really work for me, but I had him there. | ||
| I really did care about him. | ||
| I wanted him off that shit. | ||
| Whatever, that was like a worse evil... | ||
| Or a faster suicide than I was even on. | ||
| And he ran out of the place. | ||
| I got a call from him. | ||
| The place was directly across the street from Hard Rock in Hollywood, Florida. | ||
| And he calls me. | ||
| He's like, yo, what's up? | ||
| I'm like, how are you calling me? | ||
| You don't have phone privileges like that. | ||
| He's like, I'm across the street from the rehab at the Hard Rock with one of the nurses. | ||
| And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? | ||
| I was like, yo, X, cover yourself up, come back to my house, I'm gonna talk to these people, let you back in. | ||
| And he wouldn't let them back in. | ||
| It was a real tough motherfucker to own this place. | ||
| And he ended up, because it was court ordered, he had to go away. | ||
| I'm at the Montreal one morning, a couple of days later, and my security's like, yo, Doug, there's 50 federal agents here. | ||
| Like, crazy shit, bro. | ||
| It was like, I couldn't believe it. | ||
| I felt horrible. | ||
| And then you flash forward to not so long ago, I was heavily involved in a rehab center in California in Studio City where we used cannabis for healing. | ||
| And it came to my attention that he was on his last legs. | ||
| X was in bad shape. | ||
| So... | ||
| I was able to make a meeting happen. | ||
| My partner Steve LaBelle, I don't know if you know who Steve LaBelle is, managed Bone Thugs and Harmony and all these people, like real legend. | ||
| We were partners on this place and We had X come in. | ||
| He had emphysema. | ||
| He was one rock away from death. | ||
| You know that kind of thing. | ||
| So we convinced him. | ||
| We put him on a private plane to Washington to do a detox. | ||
| He went. | ||
| He went through the whole detox and his plan was to leave the detox and come to our facility inpatient and do rehab. | ||
| He never made it back on the plane to head back and we never saw him again. | ||
| I was me trying to save a man's life that I really loved. | ||
| He was such a special guy. | ||
| Such a special performer. | ||
| One of the greatest to ever do it. | ||
| Without a doubt. | ||
| The power that that guy had in his voice. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| But wild people make wild shit. | ||
| I'm one of them. | ||
| Sometimes you can't control. | ||
| You can't calculate. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, going back to Kenison, I mean, that did him. | ||
| I mean, he died in a car accident, but he was falling apart because it was all cocaine. | ||
| Cocaine and drinking. | ||
| And the wildest of the wilds all get caught up in that life because you escape yourself. | ||
| It's an escape, I was just about to say. | ||
| Yeah, it's an escape. | ||
| The difference between enjoying yourself and an escape is... | ||
| But, bro, like, the calm down, like, after, like... | ||
| Because after a while, like, that, like, getting fucked up and going to sleep doesn't work. | ||
| It's like, now you want to go for two days or three days. | ||
| The way you feel at the end of that run is no good, bro. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's just no good. | ||
| Well, you're closing in on death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| Yeah, your body's shutting down. | ||
| People don't like to think that, but if you're up for two days, you're about four days away from death. | ||
| You keep that up for four days, you're gonna die. | ||
| You'll stroke out. | ||
| You'll have a heart attack. | ||
| Something will go wrong. | ||
| You'll pop. | ||
| Something will go off. | ||
| Yeah, you'll get emphazine or you'll get pneumonia. | ||
| You'll get something horrible because your immune system is destroyed. | ||
| But it's like wild people make wild shit. | ||
| And do you get a DMX without drugs? | ||
| It's like you call it sex drugs or rock and roll, rock star shit, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| I don't know if you get those people. | ||
| I don't know if you get Hendrix without acid. | ||
| I don't know if you get it. | ||
| I don't know if you get it. | ||
| I don't know if you get it without heroin. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I'm so lucky because now I finally realize and understand all the things you're saying about you can just die and I get it now and I'm like, I'm not doing that. | ||
| I lived it, though, and I got the experience. | ||
| But the music is still fertile, and I'm still doing my thing because a lot of those memories and things... | ||
| Oh, bro, you made it through. | ||
| Yeah, I made it through. | ||
| You made it through. | ||
| You're alive. | ||
| You're healthy. | ||
| You're lucky. | ||
| You're blessed. | ||
| Fucking lucky as hell. | ||
| Lucky as shit. | ||
| And it's just like, that's the dance, man. | ||
| The dance is how much wild do you let in your life? | ||
| And if you don't let any in... | ||
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You might be boring as fuck. | |
| Your art might suck. | ||
| I made it out alive. | ||
| All my favorite artists are a little off the rails, and always have been. | ||
| From my favorite writers to my favorite musicians. | ||
| I mean, so many of my favorite musicians died young. | ||
| Hendrix is probably one of my all-time favorites, but that's a great example. | ||
| You know, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, all these people died young, man. | ||
| Kurt Cobain died young, because they went too fucking hard, too wild, too wild out of the gate. | ||
| Amy Winehouse, too wild. | ||
| You start dealing with stuff that, like... | ||
| It's not like you could just be an organized drug addict. | ||
| Some people just have less of an addictive personality, but the shit just takes over. | ||
| Yeah, it takes over. | ||
| And again, if you live in that wild life, there's no one telling you to stop. | ||
| There's no one telling you to slow down. | ||
| You have all the money in the world. | ||
| Who the fuck are you? | ||
| Why are you telling me to slow down? | ||
| Fuck out of here. | ||
| I just did the Star Spangled Banner with my teeth. | ||
| Get the fuck off the stage. | ||
| You ever see him do that? | ||
| Ever see Hendrix do the Star Spangled Banner with his teeth? | ||
| Bro. | ||
| That motherfucker. | ||
| I'm told I'm one of the only guys who can play music and smoke weed at the same time. | ||
| I don't know how they play music and sing at the same time. | ||
| I, um... | ||
| I met this guy, Post Malone, part of his business team, him and Dre London, this guy Austin Rosen. | ||
| Austin Rosen's a fucking awesome dude. | ||
| He owns Electric Field Entertainment. | ||
| Post, all these guys, Lou Bell, they're all part of some of the most talented and Just one of the coolest things going on in music with these guys. | ||
| So I wanted to make a life story, like biopic. | ||
| I was going to do something. | ||
| I had one idea I was going to do. | ||
| And then he was like, Austin says, dude, I want you to go meet this guy. | ||
| His name's Charles Rovan. | ||
| He owns Atlas Entertainment. | ||
| I don't know if you're familiar with Atlas, but they made, like, one of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies. | ||
| He did, like, Suicide Squad, that whole series, Dark Knight, Oppenheimer, like, some of the craziest movies. | ||
| The list just goes on. | ||
| I'm like, oh, shit, this guy makes blockbusters. | ||
| He was going to make my movie? | ||
| He was like, listen... | ||
| Just go meet him, see what happens. | ||
| I meet the guy and I go in his office. | ||
| I'm like so nervous. | ||
| He says to me, I don't like you very much, especially from what I read. | ||
| But if I like you by the end of this meeting, I think we'll make a movie. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I don't like you very much, especially from what I read. | ||
| Because like, you know, there's some fucked up shit like, you know, like, No tabloid type shit? | ||
| Yeah, but a lot of it's bullshit. | ||
| Of course it is. | ||
| It made me look a certain way. | ||
| But meanwhile, me and him ended up really seeing eye to eye and I was able to articulate why a lot of these things happened. | ||
| There was one interview I missed because I wasn't even told about it. | ||
| And apparently it was rescheduled three times. | ||
| And then I was told about it and I unfortunately had to reschedule it. | ||
| Guy wrote the most horrible story about me. | ||
| It was a cover of a magazine, and it was me covered with blood all over my face and just making me just look like fucking Hitler. | ||
| And, you know, it couldn't be any further from the truth. | ||
| Like, yeah, I made big mistakes, but... | ||
| I did it. | ||
| I was the nicest person. | ||
| I would give the shirt off my back. | ||
| Any person that ever stopped me in the streets to get a picture, I'm going to ask them how their day was. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm that guy. | ||
| I'm very thorough and very consistent. | ||
| Well, that doesn't sell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What sells is, you're the worst piece of shit of all time. | ||
| Oh my god, let me read about this piece of shit. | ||
| That's a horrible thing that journalists do for money. | ||
| They make these pieces where they completely distort a person's essence, and they only do it for money. | ||
| They're just like emotional hit people. | ||
| Let's not talk about everything that I've left my footprint in the fucking world. | ||
| But at any rate, Yeah, right. | ||
| Let's just talk about negative things and only from a very distorted perspective. | ||
| Selfish. | ||
| Life is nuanced and it's weird. | ||
| Life is fucking crazy. | ||
| And sometimes people make mistakes, but it's not their whole being. | ||
| And to try to condense a person down to tabloid headlines, that's the essence of the person. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's the least compassionate... | ||
| The least kind way of looking at human beings. | ||
| That's not how human beings are. | ||
| We're complicated. | ||
| That's why those little hit pieces, they're gross and they don't really work. | ||
| Because people know that. | ||
| There's probably a lot more to this. | ||
| Why is this so negative? | ||
| This is not a balanced version of who that person is. | ||
| I'm a complex character if I was in a movie. | ||
| Of course you are. | ||
| You're an artist. | ||
| Every artist is complex. | ||
| I've never met one that isn't. | ||
| A very, very raw and real look at my life is happening now with Atlas Entertainment. | ||
| We're making a movie, major movie. | ||
| Who's going to play you? | ||
| It's gotta be several me's because my span of my career starts ultimately. | ||
| You're a kid. | ||
| I'm a kid. | ||
| Yeah, I'm already a kid. | ||
| Maybe they can do CGI, turn you into a kid. | ||
| You can play yourself. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| They can do wild shit. | ||
| I didn't want to be involved in production, writing, Or acting or anything. | ||
| I needed to be respected and real, raw. | ||
| Like, it's not gonna make me look like the greatest guy. | ||
| It's not gonna make me look like a bad guy. | ||
| It's just gonna make me look like who I was, you know what I mean? | ||
| Do you have any say in, like, because... | ||
| No. | ||
| One of the things that drives me nuts is when there's a movie and no one was there. | ||
| And you see, like, this historical figure say some things. | ||
| And you're like, well, how do I... He didn't really say that. | ||
| Some fucking writer wrote that shit. | ||
| This is not a real conversation that this person had with somebody. | ||
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I spent a lot of time with the writers. | |
| This guy Dan is... | ||
| He's a freaking amazing, talented guy. | ||
| Yeah, everything is going to be cool. | ||
| If I have my way, I have an 18-year-old son who's literally me, who I make all my music with. | ||
| This kid Jalen, he's my son, and he's like one of my best friends. | ||
| It's like when Ice Cube's son played him. | ||
| And this kid looks just like me. | ||
| And at the time I was his age, acts just like me. | ||
| Perfect! | ||
| To a point where it's not even normal. | ||
| So I can't think of anybody better. | ||
| But we'll get to that. | ||
| I'm not saying he's going to, but I would love for that to be. | ||
| And I think anybody could see if this kid's capable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he is me. | ||
| He's like, you feel me, my mouth, everything, different fucking things. | ||
| But it's weird when someone's alive and someone's playing that person who's alive. | ||
| And you know, like, oh, that's not really Scott Storch. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
|
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It's weird. | |
| It's like a movie about you. | ||
| You remember when Michael Jai White played Mike Tyson? | ||
| And Mike Tyson was still... | ||
| I mean, they were friends. | ||
| They were cool with each other. | ||
| But that had to be weird. | ||
| You're playing a dude who's still alive. | ||
| Mike Tyson's a special guy. | ||
| He's a very special guy. | ||
| He's a very good friend of mine. | ||
| I'm glad he got through that fight and didn't get hurt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I was... | ||
| I was hoping he would knock Jake Paul out. | ||
| Just because that's the Cinderella story. | ||
| I don't have anything against Jake Paul. | ||
| I like Jake Paul. | ||
| I think what he's doing is genius. | ||
| I think what he's doing is, like... | ||
| I mean, he's got... | ||
| He's making insane amounts of money. | ||
| He's having a great fucking time. | ||
| He's a legit boxer. | ||
| He's absolutely a legit boxer. | ||
| Yeah, you can't hate on somebody that works that hard. | ||
| You cannot. | ||
| I would never hate on... | ||
| If you do, you're an idiot. | ||
| No, I was like, you know what? | ||
| This guy is fucking really driven. | ||
| Him and his brother, they're like driven. | ||
| Like, it's not at all... | ||
|
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For sure. | |
| Everybody starts somewhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So they were YouTubers or they were on Disney Channel. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| It's what you do with it. | ||
| But the reality is... | ||
| Mike is 58 years old, and I was worried. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| And he was a hero of mine when I was a kid. | ||
| So to see him 58 years old fighting, part of me was like, fuck. | ||
| Me and him have fought a lot of the same demons, and we were there for each other in a lot of ways. | ||
| I talked to him in pretty deep conversations with Mike, and he actually checks on me, and like, yo, you good? | ||
| And I do the same. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| And my friend Rick. | ||
| We're all kind of like... | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, like... | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| He's a beautiful person. | ||
| He really is, man. | ||
| For a guy who was the most terrifying fighter of all time, he's a really nice guy to be around. | ||
| I felt like I was in the fucking movie Hangover one time because I was hanging out with him in Vegas. | ||
| I remember we're cruising around in my fucking Bentley Mulsane at the time and he's like, Yo, let's go jam out. | ||
| We went to the Palms, from my hotel to the Palms, and we rented the studio there just so I could play piano. | ||
| We're jamming out, playing old records and shit. | ||
| Oh, that's awesome. | ||
| But just cruising around Vegas, I was like, damn, this is like fucking hangover. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Great dude, man. | ||
| Vegas is a great example of a place where you have to have balance in. | ||
| It's like living in Miami to me. | ||
| You live in Vegas? | ||
| You should probably live in Henderson. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Live out there. | ||
| Celine Dion. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Live close to the mountains out there. | ||
| Don't be right in the middle of all that. | ||
| Attack it from the outside. | ||
| That's what I did in L.A. When I lived in L.A., I lived like an hour outside L.A. I never lived... | ||
| I did when I first moved there, and then I slowly started moving further and further away until I got about an hour outside. | ||
| Because I am not comfortable in L.A. anymore. | ||
| I used to be. | ||
| It's crazy now. | ||
| I sleep with one eye open. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I sold my house. | ||
| I got rid of that fucking place in the valley of just home invasions everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| It's like what they've done to that city in a short amount of time is shocking. | ||
| I never thought it would go that bad that fast. | ||
| And it's the way it is now. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Bizarre. | ||
| I always say that it's like a girl that used to date. | ||
| She was really cute, but now she does meth and she works for the cartel. | ||
| What happened to you? | ||
| The pandemic happened. | ||
| You just remember her from when she was so sweet and cool. | ||
| Well, the pandemic was the reason why the government was able to fuck up that city. | ||
| The pandemic was just, that was their way to fuck up the city. | ||
| Dude, there were stacks of bricks. | ||
| On the street. | ||
| We all know where that came from. | ||
| Stacks of bricks. | ||
| It's somebody left there hoping someone would throw through windows. | ||
| Starting riots. | ||
| That's some weirdo shit, bro. | ||
| It's correct. | ||
| It's spooky and scary. | ||
| It's spooky. | ||
| I don't like to go full Batman on this, but it's like there's evil villains out there that are pulling the strings of the world. | ||
| And that's real. | ||
| Those fucking protests are organized, man. | ||
| People spend a lot of money to organize those things and then put bricks out. | ||
| The whole thing was designed to disrupt society. | ||
| And then the defund the police bullshit, how anybody bought into that is so crazy. | ||
| Reform the police, yeah. | ||
| Train the police better, yeah. | ||
| But defund them? | ||
| Are you fucking crazy? | ||
| Yeah, let's just all not be safe. | ||
| Are you out of your fucking mind? | ||
| Do you not know the law of the jungle? | ||
| Do you not know the real streets? | ||
| Let me know when your house gets robbed. | ||
| You're not going to get a cop. | ||
| It's not coming now. | ||
| I have had so many friends that completely flipped a 180 after they got robbed. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| 180. They're Trump supporters now. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
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It's like, what do you mean? | |
| People that were like, full-on liberals. | ||
| And then they get a gun pointed in their face, and all of a sudden they're like, oh, this is what we signed up for? | ||
| You're just letting these people out? | ||
| You arrest these people and let them out? | ||
| And then they just do it again? | ||
| And they get arrested? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| The assistant to the DA in New York just got attacked. | ||
| Just got, by some guy who had been, see if you can find this, he got robbed by some guy who had been arrested some insane amount of times since 2023. I was looking at the story online. | ||
| I was like, this is so crazy that this person just keeps getting out and keeps robbing people and then just robbed the assistant to the DA. Alvin Bragg? | ||
| ROR it out. | ||
| Suspected gang member accused of exposing himself robbing Manhattan District. | ||
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Exposing himself? | |
| He pulled his dick out and he robbed him. | ||
| Exposing himself is funny. | ||
| Go to the headline. | ||
| Exposing himself is first. | ||
| The robbing part? | ||
| That second. | ||
| But he showed him his penis. | ||
| That is unbelievable. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
|
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What is wrong with this world? | |
| I don't mean to laugh about it, but it's just like, it's comedy, bro. | ||
| It's like satire almost. | ||
| Brandon Samosa confronted the 38-year-old victim in the hallway of her building on West 44th Street around 2 a.m. | ||
| Authorities say he grabbed the victim's purse, cell phone, and bank card before exposing himself. | ||
| He pulled his dick out after he robbed her. | ||
| He robbed her first, but they put it exposing himself, the most horrible thing that he did. | ||
| Police were able to track the phone and eventually arrest him near a hotel on West 45th Street, 8th Avenue on Tuesday, leading authorities to believe the suspect is a migrant. | ||
| Possession of drugs. | ||
| No, they know who the guy is, Jamie. | ||
| They caught the guy. | ||
| See if you can find a more updated version of it. | ||
| Because he was arrested a ton of times since 2023. Exposing themselves makes more sense now, that it's a lady. | ||
| I thought... | ||
| What's that, Jamie? | ||
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It's still on there. | |
| Oh, okay, right there. | ||
| He's been arrested six times in the last five months for similar crimes. | ||
| Six times. | ||
| Wouldn't you think, after five times, they go, hey, maybe this guy's a real criminal. | ||
| Yeah, we might need to lock him up. | ||
| Maybe we'd need to put him in jail. | ||
| Maybe he's a real criminal. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Keep him out there. | ||
| There's reasons. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's the world we're living in now, and that's LA, and that's New York, and that's a lot of places that got fucked up by incompetent people. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just feel safer knowing, like... | ||
| Pull this microphone. | ||
| Oh, I feel safer knowing that Trump is in office. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| I feel great about it. | ||
| What I don't feel safer is right now they're launching missiles into Russia. | ||
| How are you allowed to do that when you're on the way out? | ||
| The people don't want you to be there anymore. | ||
| This should be some sort of a pause for significant actions that could potentially start World War III. Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a dying former president. | ||
| The whole thing is nuts. | ||
| I mean, look, I don't know shit about politics. | ||
| Zelensky says Putin is terrified. | ||
| Fuck you, man. | ||
| Fuck you people. | ||
| You fucking people are about to start World War III. Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
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Russia fired a missile today. | |
| Yeah, they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time ever. | ||
| It's the first time one of those has ever been used. | ||
| That's insanity. | ||
| It's fucking insanity, because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. | ||
| This one didn't, but if it does, the whole world changes, and it changes because the military-industrial complex, and it changes because the money that's going to Ukraine, and it changes because the outgoing president, or whoever the fuck is actually running the country, has decided to do something fucking insane. | ||
| Fucking insane. | ||
| And we're all sitting there watching it and people are cheering it on. | ||
| CNN was saying, like, finally. | ||
| See what their headline was about Zelensky using, about Biden giving Zelensky the ability to use long-range missiles. | ||
| U.S. made long-range. | ||
| It's not like nobody knows where they came from. | ||
| It's not like nobody knows we've been funding this. | ||
| It's a proxy war. | ||
| The whole thing is fucking insane. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Come to the negotiation table. | ||
| Sit down. | ||
| Work this out. | ||
| Stop killing everybody. | ||
| U.S. allows Ukraine to use long-range missiles. | ||
| So what did they say? | ||
| Someone had said that, like, CNN was saying that it was a good thing, which I think is – how? | ||
| How has the left gone so far crazy that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles? | ||
| Just – That's what's scary about life. | ||
| You don't want to pay attention to that shit. | ||
| You just want to live your life. | ||
| You want to just be carefree and have fun and do the thing that you're passionate about. | ||
| And meanwhile, the world is burning. | ||
| You can't do anything about it. | ||
| At that high level, it's like there's nothing... | ||
| Well, we can. | ||
| We voted Trump in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His idea is to stop all this shit and hopefully he can do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, man. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| I feel like none of the fucking problems between the Ukraine and Russia would have been exacerbated as far as they went had Trump been in office. | ||
| I'd like to think that. | ||
| I genuinely believe that he has a way of keeping the peace in a certain way and, like, Well, as soon as he got elected, the Taliban said, let's form a truce. | ||
| You know, Hamas is saying, let's cease fire. | ||
| Everybody is saying these things like right away. | ||
| China was saying, we'd like to do business with America. | ||
| Russia was saying that. | ||
| Like, let's fucking calm everybody down. | ||
| Stop being so fucking tribal. | ||
| You're so crazy that you think that everything the left is doing is right because you're on the left. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| And for anybody that's a left-wing progressive person to think that somehow or another missiles are a good thing, God damn it. | ||
| God damn it, you people out of your fucking minds. | ||
| How can you think that's the answer? | ||
| It's never the answer. | ||
| This is craziness. | ||
| Especially with Russia. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's the shit that keeps me up at night, man. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| When I get paranoid late at night when everyone's asleep, that's the thing that gets me. | ||
| World War. | ||
| Because it's happened before, man. | ||
| The world has been at peace before and then all of a sudden chaos. | ||
| And to think that that can never happen again... | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| It's happening right now. | ||
| It's just not happening here, and we don't feel it here, so it doesn't affect our thinking process, and we support things that could lead to it happening here, and we don't even realize we're doing it while we're doing it. | ||
| As a human being, wouldn't you think that Keeping yourself and the rest of the population of the world safe is priority. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| It's priority. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| And peace. | ||
| And by the way, everybody wants peace. | ||
| Everybody wants their children to be happy. | ||
| Everybody wants to be well-fed and healthy. | ||
| Everybody wants that. | ||
| Just figure out a way to fucking balance it all out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Well... | ||
| We got 60 more days until Trump gets in or whatever it is. | ||
| How many days is it, Jamie? | ||
| But who knows? | ||
| Maybe once it gets in, they'll ramp it up. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe they'll sabotage his administration. | ||
| That's what's even more scary. | ||
| People don't want him in power. | ||
| And the people that are in power don't want to leave power and they'll try every way they can to keep it. | ||
| 60 days from today. | ||
| All right. | ||
| On the news. | ||
| 60 days. | ||
| Keep your fingers crossed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just hope Putin understands what's going on as well. | ||
| And Zelensky doesn't do anything stupid. | ||
| But saying that Putin's terrified. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| It's like you're trying to like tug the tail of a fucking sleeping dragon. | ||
| Dragon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, Zelensky, can I get a drug test? | ||
| Can we just get one drug test before we send you any more money? | ||
| Like, what are you doing? | ||
| Are you doing a lot of blow over there? | ||
| Because this is like blow-like behavior. | ||
| I'm not responsible for him. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| This is like cocaine-like behavior. | ||
| Putin's fucking scared, man. | ||
| Putin's terrified. | ||
| Jacked up. | ||
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We got him. | |
| We got him, man. | ||
| We got him. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| He has nuclear missiles, you fucking monkeys. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's my chance right now. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Cause destruction. | ||
| Yeah, Putin should not have invaded Ukraine. | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| But don't start World War III. Like, there's got to be a way to settle this. | ||
| There must be. | ||
| I gotta put some of this into my music. | ||
| Like, these feelings of, like, even the conversations we're having. | ||
| One of my best, my favorite anti-war songs is Ghetto Boys. | ||
| Fuck a war. | ||
| Bushwick Bill. | ||
| Willie D told me he wrote that in 40 minutes. | ||
| I like Ghetto Boys. | ||
| Love Ghetto Boys. | ||
| Storytellers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like Polo, Cool G Rap. | ||
| Oh, yeah, man. | ||
| Cockblocking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were the best storytellers. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Scarface. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cool G. The L Street Blues. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I love Cool G Rap. | ||
| I'm on the verge of committing murder. | ||
| It's like a whole fucking plot. | ||
| He had a great flow, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he had a great flow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, Cool G Rap was awesome. | ||
| Hip-hop's different these days. | ||
| I heard he's like a... | ||
| Someone told me he's a devout religious man now. | ||
| Really? | ||
| See if that's true. | ||
| I always wondered what happened to that dude. | ||
| That was a guy that I felt like didn't get his due on the world stage. | ||
| People don't respect him for as good as he really was. | ||
| Because I would tell some young guys about Coogee Rap, they don't even know who he is. | ||
| And I played music in the green room. | ||
| You ever hear the brand new heavies? | ||
| Like the jazz band when they linked up with a bunch of rappers? | ||
| The Heavy Rhyme Experience? | ||
| Have you ever heard that album? | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| Coogee Rap's Death Threat is the best track On that. | ||
| I played that shit in the green room of the mothership and I was like, what is this, man? | ||
| Yeah, he's saying some shit. | ||
| Yes, he's saying some shit and it's with the brand new Heavys playing the music. | ||
| Funky, yes. | ||
| Fucking tremendous. | ||
| Jazz. | ||
| Tremendous. | ||
| They did a great thing with Gangstar, too. | ||
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Yep. | |
| They have a great song with Gangstar, too, that's on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love... | ||
| That's where I entered into my... | ||
| Passion and love for hip-hop is that era. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was saying that earlier. | ||
| That's one of my favorite eras. | ||
| Nas, Illmatic, Godson. | ||
| That's almost like the Sgt. Pepper is a rap. | ||
| Illmatic. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Oh my god, and how old was he when he made that? | ||
| He was young, man. | ||
| Really young. | ||
| I was about to say, One Love. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Genius. | ||
| How about Rewind? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rewind is one of the most genius rap songs of all time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It tells a story backwards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| And it's genius, and it's fun, and the flow's great. | ||
| Mind-melting shit, bro. | ||
| I think Nas is my all-time favorite lyricist. | ||
| It's like Nas and then everybody else is like, I mean, I love them all, but to me Nas is a special lyricist. | ||
| His lyrics are special. | ||
| He's got so many oh moments. | ||
| Where you're listening to me and you're like, oh! | ||
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Oh! | |
| It's not even just punchlines. | ||
| It's like the whole subject matters. | ||
| The way he describes... | ||
| The way he hits things. | ||
| He can paint a picture. | ||
| He paints a picture. | ||
| But the way he chooses his words. | ||
| Like, we were listening to Get Down last night. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| God damn, that's good. | ||
| A word choice. | ||
| M is, to me, one of the greats of that. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Saying things in a different amount of syllables or a word that you wouldn't expect. | ||
| It's just real creative shit. | ||
| I love Jadakiss and Style Speed. | ||
| I think Jadakiss is in my top tops. | ||
| DMX. My workout music is Wu-Tang Clan. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's my workout music. | ||
| Gravel Pit, when you're hitting the bag. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And whenever we do shows, we have like a ritual. | ||
| Like when we're driving to the arena, especially if we're getting a police escort, which is the craziest shit of all time. | ||
| You're going to do a show and you got a police escort. | ||
| And we always listen to Protect Your Neck. | ||
| Like, oh, we got to play it. | ||
| Like, okay, here we go. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Protect your neck. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| We're on our way to the arena. | ||
| And then once we get in the door, I'm your boogeyman. | ||
| KC and the Sunshine Band. | ||
| Boogeyman. | ||
| I'm your boogeyman. | ||
| Yeah, like, just to get everything going. | ||
| Like, let's go. | ||
| KC. You mentioned his name, I have to do it. | ||
| I see him at the Hit Factory in Miami one time. | ||
| I was like, wow, let's fuck KC. KC and the Sunshine Band. | ||
| And we meet, and he's like, I saw your MTV Cribs, and I'm just gonna tell you. | ||
| I spend more on my flowers and my orchids than you probably do on your cars every month. | ||
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I was just like, what the fuck? | |
| Wow. | ||
| What a weird flex. | ||
| What a weird flex. | ||
| I was like, okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Cool. | |
| I think you're wasting money because then flowers are going to die. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I got a Bugatti. | ||
| So to each his own. | ||
| Bizarre quotes. | ||
| That doesn't even make any sense. | ||
| You're getting robbed. | ||
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Okay? | |
| You're getting robbed. | ||
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Your florist is a piece of shit. | |
| Hey, everybody's got their own thing. | ||
| I know, but you're getting robbed. | ||
| If you're spending that much money on your flowers, you are getting fucking robbed, sir. | ||
| He's being facetious, but he was making a point. | ||
| But that's a crazy flex. | ||
| It's also a weird way to introduce yourself to somebody. | ||
| Yeah, I had just met him. | ||
| But isn't that one of those things where you used to be on top and you want to show everybody you're still on top? | ||
| Just like you were talking about, like wearing the diamonds and the jewelry. | ||
| Go up to the guy who's hot right now and say, yeah, I saw your MTV Cribs and guess what? | ||
| My flowers. | ||
| Yeah, I spend more money on dirt. | ||
| Dude, I've seen some crazy shit in my life, bro. | ||
| I've had some crazy fucking moments for a fucking poor boy that came from nothing and rose to a place where it's like... | ||
| I've seen life on every side of like... | ||
| I've seen life as a poor boy. | ||
| I've seen life as making it, made it, blew it. | ||
| This, that. | ||
| I've seen, like... | ||
| I remember sitting in St. Bards. | ||
| I had been invited on the boat of pretty successful, very wealthy Russian people that I knew. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And sitting there, chilling, doing my normal, like... | ||
| Just hanging thing and I see a battleship pull up. | ||
| Like an actual like fucking army or navy or whatever the fuck boat pull up near us. | ||
| Somebody gets off the tender. | ||
| Gets on the boat I'm on. | ||
| And it was Qaddafi's son. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck? | ||
| This is surreal. | ||
| Was Gaddafi still alive? | ||
| Yeah, I forget what year it was. | ||
| I think it was like 2008. Okay, yeah. | ||
| So he's probably still alive. | ||
| Yeah, definitely still alive. | ||
| He was telling me how his country is becoming much more like Open-minded and normal and this and that. | ||
| And I had a keyboard. | ||
| I was jamming out, playing and shit. | ||
| I'm just such a fucking weirdo. | ||
| I was playing Java Nagila. | ||
| I'm just a weirdo, dude. | ||
| That was funny. | ||
| But I've seen some shit, man. | ||
| I've seen the fucking craziest. | ||
| It's a great American story. | ||
| That's the great American story, you know? | ||
| Like, coming from nothing, chasing your dream, making your dream, fucking up your life along the way, but still alive to tell the story, you know? | ||
| I used to see fucking BMF out at the club all the time, like, be in the club, and I'd be like, you know, these guys over there, they just sent you 20 bottles of Cristal, and you're like, okay, who are they? | ||
| And they're like, this is the fucking, this is the guys. | ||
| I'm like, okay, cool, thank you guys, like, they were fucking cool as shit to me every time I see them. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I never had any drama. | ||
| I never had any, like, crazy situations happen because I think in terms of, like... | ||
| I was providing opportunity for a lot of fucking people trying to make it, like rappers from the streets. | ||
| So people were just always cool with me. | ||
| I was respectful to everybody around me. | ||
| Did you ever have a communication with that guy who called you the white devil? | ||
| No. | ||
| That was it? | ||
| That was it. | ||
| You ever talked to him after that? | ||
| I knew what I had to do. | ||
| I had to make my own world and people that love me and be around those people. | ||
| That's a terrible way to think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's such a terrible way to think that someone, just because of the color of their skin, even though they work with you and you're cool together, that you could just out that person. | ||
| The other side has endured over the beginning of time. | ||
| It's like, okay, so what? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| But it just hurt my feelings because it was my fam. | ||
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Right. | |
| I thought, and I guess I just felt like... | ||
| I just felt fucked up. | ||
| And I was like, you know what? | ||
| If anybody knows me, they know that, like, I'm not that devil. | ||
| Like, I'm the guy that's just loving, like, free-spirited, like, open-minded, like, non-racist. | ||
| Right, but that doesn't sell headlines, buddy. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| The white devil sells headlines. | ||
| The white devil gets people feeling better about themselves. | ||
| I moved to L.A. and started working in Trey's camp, and I felt so much love and respect and, like... | ||
| I was made to feel like what I was bringing to the table and that crew was like, they were like identifying that shit and they were like praising me and making me feel great. | ||
| Well, you know the expression? | ||
| Game recognizes game. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's what it is. | ||
| People see you and they hear you and they see like, oh, this guy's a wizard. | ||
| Like, what's going on? | ||
| Okay, you're staying here for a long time, Scott. | ||
| I let a lot of people down, man, when I got heavy into drugs, like the Dr. Dre's of the world. | ||
| It's like, they're trying to hang in there with me like, fuck, bro. | ||
| At some point... | ||
| They've got to put me on time out. | ||
| That's probably good for you too. | ||
| When you disappoint people that you respect and care for, that's a real emotional rock bottom. | ||
| Sometimes people need that to course correct. | ||
| If everything's going great, you have no reason to stop doing blow and partying all night. | ||
| If everything's perfect, And, you know, there's a lot of people that will enable you to keep that life going because they're feeding off of you. | ||
| Misery loves company. | ||
| There's that, but then there's also people that, like, all they want to do is keep you happy because they make a living off of you, and so they don't want to rock the boat. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they don't care, like, if you're destroying yourself. | ||
| But the truth is, there's two different modes. | ||
| There's the guy that can make music and smokes his weed and fucking eat pizza and just is like a normal guy. | ||
| And then when I flip to that other thing, cocaine is not a drug you can really make. | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| Good music on. | ||
| It may seem good when you're making it, but when you listen to it the next day, because the emotions, it's like a whirlwind of emotions that you feel when you're in that world, like you really feel like Happiness, sadness, this, that, the other, like all these things, all within 10 minutes, you could have all these emotions and it's no good. | ||
| So how are you going to stay on something that you want to make people feel a certain way? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, I've never done coke, but everybody that I know does coke says you can't perform on it. | ||
| It fucks you up. | ||
| You don't feel right. | ||
| No, because you're feeling 20 different emotions inside of a minute. | ||
| And it's like, you can only think about one thing when you're on it, is that. | ||
| That's it. | ||
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So... | |
| Yeah, there's no real good Coke stories. | ||
| Not recommended for anybody. | ||
| I don't know anybody who's got like a great Coke story. | ||
| No. | ||
| Maybe one night. | ||
| But most Coke stories lead to my life fell apart. | ||
| No happy ending. | ||
| No. | ||
| No happy ending. | ||
| No, there's no like Coke advocates. | ||
| There's a lot of marijuana advocates. | ||
| They'll tell you, marijuana changed my life. | ||
| Marijuana made me more compassionate. | ||
| That's me. | ||
| Marijuana made me a kinder person, more sensitive, more into community, more into love. | ||
| Nobody says that about cocaine. | ||
| Cocaine fixed my life. | ||
| My life is kind of a mess. | ||
| Then I started doing blow. | ||
| And then, man, it all just came together. | ||
| I realized that's what I need. | ||
| I think I'm a little imbalanced. | ||
| I just need cocaine every day. | ||
| I remember being so perplexed. | ||
| I don't like throwing people under the bus, so I won't say who it is, but one of the most massive people in the world of technology, like in the world of these younger computer guys that became extremely famous, like start people that started Facebooks and this and that, all that type of shit. | ||
| Like one of those guys, I'm not gonna say who, but like somebody who's fucking so huge, I went to visit him with some friends of mine. | ||
| I was sitting at a table, whacking it up, and the dude was telling me that he had just had a heart attack a couple of nights before. | ||
| And then he started talking about how Cocaine is one of the most poorly publicized drugs in the world. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck am I listening to? | ||
| Me, even being onto the influence, was like, this is frightening. | ||
| This was one of those guys, like one of the big, big, like, change the world kind of people. | ||
| So he was telling you he just had a heart attack, but cocaine is awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's super smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is even scarier because you can convince yourself that you're right. | ||
| The whole world knows who this guy is. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The whole world. | ||
| But, you know, I don't know. | ||
| I've had many situations where people so selfishly, even knowing I'm recovering or recovered or whatever the fuck you want to call it, want to have the opportunity to do something. | ||
| They'll pull me aside like, I always wanted to do a bump with you. | ||
| Yeah, man, but no. | ||
| We can't do that, bro. | ||
| When was the last time you did one? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I mean, I've fallen within the past six months, but, you know, I've got good people around me now. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| And, like, the shame and the guilt and everything just prevents you from enjoying that and making, like, even thinking about doing it, like... | ||
| Can't do anything. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Hey man, six months is great. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Six days is great. | ||
| The whole thing is just, you're gonna fall. | ||
| And if you fall, get up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Get up. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| You're a human being. | ||
| Human beings fuck up. | ||
| They make mistakes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Especially when you're dealing with something like addiction. | ||
| And most people think, that could never be me. | ||
| That could never be me. | ||
| I'm not like that. | ||
| Yeah, it could definitely be you. | ||
| There's things that trigger it, and it's usually pussy. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You have no intention whatsoever of doing something, and all of a sudden, it's right there in front of you. | ||
| There's a fucking ass-naked girl, and there's a pile of this, and you had like two drinks. | ||
| You're like, look, I've done it before. | ||
| I could just do it this one time. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna be okay. | ||
| Yeah, we'll be okay. | ||
| And three days later, you're looking out the window like, ah! | ||
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Like, what the fuck? | |
| Bloodshot eyes, like you got pink eye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But too much going on now, man. | ||
| That's kind of being the movie. | ||
| With my single, with like my album, you know, it's just... | ||
| Well, it seems like you're in a good place. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Well, I think it's so important for people like you to tell your story raw and unedited like you do. | ||
| Because I think people want to see a person that's been very successful and they want to have this rosy view of what their life was like. | ||
| People love to build you up, but they love tearing you down. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It becomes like a... | ||
| And then for me... | ||
| Like, in my business, it's such a desperate business. | ||
| People know I'm of sound mind and at the top of my game and I'm making some fucking fire-ass music. | ||
| That's a threat for certain people. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So they'll block it and they'll perpetuate the rumors and do whatever the fuck to make sure that I don't get behind. | ||
| They're like a goalie for the artists. | ||
| So many huge artists, they don't want me to get with them because they know what's going to happen. | ||
| I'm going to make better shit. | ||
| People don't like when someone's talented. | ||
| And they don't like when someone's successful. | ||
| Because everybody compares themselves to other people. | ||
| That's the real problem. | ||
| Comparison is the thief of joy. | ||
| Is that Thoreau? | ||
| Is that who that was? | ||
| Thomas Jefferson? | ||
| Yeah, Thoreau is most men lead lives of quiet desperation. | ||
| But comparison is the thief of joy, that's a real thing, man. | ||
| And if you're a person that's looking at someone else's success and somehow or another wanting to diminish that, you're doing it to yourself. | ||
| Whether you realize it or not, you are wasting your own... | ||
| Precious life energy on hating on a person and that will take away your gift. | ||
| It'll take away your creativity. | ||
| It'll take away your ability to be present. | ||
| They don't see it like that. | ||
| Because they're fools. | ||
| That's why they do it in the first place. | ||
| Job security. | ||
| It's a foolish venture. | ||
| And even if it works, even if it works, you're doing yourself into it because you know you're a piece of shit. | ||
| You know that you've done that to a person. | ||
| You know you've distorted who that person is just because you want to feel better about your own life. | ||
| You want someone to falter so that you don't feel, when you're comparing yourself to them, you don't feel inadequate. | ||
| And that's the reason. | ||
| It's just pettiness. | ||
| It's just human weakness. | ||
| And it's one of its grossest forms. | ||
| And it's not called out enough. | ||
| You know, it's a disgusting behavior pattern that's bad for humanity. | ||
| I genuinely Feel joy and excitement and happiness for friends or colleagues that have success. | ||
| Yeah, you should. | ||
| And it's inspiring. | ||
| I just see so many others that just... | ||
| Don't look at it like that. | ||
| Because they're selfish. | ||
| They're haters. | ||
| But that's a good thing. | ||
| And you could say that that's selfish in a way because when you help people and when you're inspired by other people's success and when you enjoy other people's success, you are experiencing a positive thing. | ||
| And that positive thing is one of the most important aspects of life. | ||
| To deny yourself that because you can't control your emotions and you can't control your jealousy and your feelings and to like hate on someone. | ||
| You're denying yourself an opportunity to feel good and you could genuinely feel happy for everyone's success and still be successful. | ||
| It doesn't take away your success at all. | ||
| It's just a mental trap and people need to understand that trap. | ||
| It is insecurity. | ||
| But it's also a lack of understanding of how your mind works. | ||
| How the human mind can play little tricks on you and lay traps for you and how jealousy can rear its ugly head and distort your views. | ||
| We fall into certain ways. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We fall into certain ways. | ||
| When I was in the fucking limelight and now I'm like in like... | ||
| Team Hilton, and I'm hanging out with certain people. | ||
| I'm hanging out with, like, some fucking, like, spoiled brat, lucky sperm club-ass fucking degenerates. | ||
| And, like, basically competing with who could be the most obnoxious in the crew. | ||
| Like, you don't see that happening until, like, I looked back at videos and things of me. | ||
| I was like, dude, what a chump. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| Doing that, I was like slowly but surely like turning into that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just to be like, I don't know. | ||
| That's the shit that's fucked up. | ||
| You just have to like really always maintain who you really are and like not get lost in that shit and like live for others or try and be... | ||
| Were we talking about this on the podcast the other day or was it a green room conversation? | ||
| Someone said that... | ||
| Personalities are as infectious as diseases. | ||
| It can be. | ||
| Someone was saying that like energy, like people's energy is as of infectious as diseases. | ||
| And when you're around someone that has a great personality and very positive, you get infected by that positivity. | ||
| You start exuding that. | ||
| And when you're around shitheads, like fucking dumb asses who just think in a stupid fucking way, you start thinking that way. | ||
| It's contagious. | ||
| There's something to it. | ||
| You gotta be careful about the company we keep. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| This world is so polluted right now. | ||
| It's the most important thing. | ||
| It's the most important thing is your community, right? | ||
| Your family, your friends, your community, the people that you associate with. | ||
| And if you're associating with shitheads, you're gonna have a fucked up experience. | ||
| The less people I come in contact, for me, is the better. | ||
| Like, I like being home. | ||
| I like going to nice restaurants, and I like being home. | ||
| I don't really like going out and fucking... | ||
| Because all that energy rubs off on you, and people's karma, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The anxiety, everything. | ||
| All the weirdness of people. | ||
| Comparing with each other. | ||
| Who's got the better watch? | ||
| Who's wearing the nicer shoes? | ||
| Like, what the fuck are we doing? | ||
| All over that. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| You're smart. | ||
| You're wiser. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It takes time to figure these things out. | ||
| But better late than never. | ||
| Yeah, but you still have the art. | ||
| You still have the desire for the art. | ||
| I lost that passion that we spoke of earlier for a while, and now it's back like a motherfucker. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, I'm in there like... | ||
| That's the American success story. | ||
| And wouldn't you rather that than at the height of your fame with the party and the drugs and the fucking chaos and the falling apart? | ||
| It's better to just embrace the art. | ||
| If it's not real, I don't want to fuck with it. | ||
| I'm not going to chase checks to work on music. | ||
| I'm going to work on what's great. | ||
| And that's how you fucking do what's right. | ||
| You stay in your lane and you do what's... | ||
| Is there any way to play the single I got coming? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think I have it. | ||
| I'm going to show you this girl is 21. Is there a picture? | ||
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I don't have a picture. | |
| You don't have a picture? | ||
| It's like a... | ||
| I have a single cover. | ||
| Yeah, just have the song. | ||
| I can Google it or something. | ||
| No, it's all good. | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| But the girl is, like, organic. | ||
| Like, she doesn't need auto-tune. | ||
| She's not, like... | ||
| Like, shit's real, so... | ||
| This is just an example. | ||
| Auto-tune is a wild thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Abby Stare. | ||
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Texture... | |
| I mean, I don't see this every day in, like, artists. | ||
| It's usually like some... | ||
| What do you hear? | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| She's a writer, too. | ||
| She's not there, and if you cared, you'd already know. | ||
|
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'Cause the sorries are all just for a show. | |
| You're finally gone, but... | ||
| But at least I have some leniency. | ||
| That I may feel something just because you don't. | ||
| And I go falling hard. | ||
| No, it ain't for the weak. | ||
| So don't try this. | ||
| I guess it's a funny game still. | ||
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It's your last, last, last, last. | |
| I guess you forgot to read the label. | ||
| That's your bad, bad, bad, bad. | ||
| My faith would die to waste if I'd go back to that place. | ||
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I know, I know, I know. | |
| I'd rather fly away or wait ten times longer to feel the right way on my own. | ||
| My faith would die to waste if I'd go back to that place. | ||
|
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I know, I know, I know. | |
| I'd rather fly away or wait ten times longer to feel the right way on my own. | ||
| Mama told me, if you can't live without something, then you gotta give it up. | ||
| Can't live with it either. | ||
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I guess I'm the problem when it's all said and done. | |
| Your life had your fun. | ||
| I got the last one. | ||
| Something told me. | ||
| When you was popping shit, I just knew you would never live it up. | ||
| Courtesy of the bottle. | ||
| You fucked around and found out about them. | ||
| But you're still shy, you're shy. | ||
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You're drunk off my sex. | |
| So, what you're listening to is a girl... | ||
| That's an amazing voice, man. | ||
| She writes that shit. | ||
| See, the conviction... | ||
| You get a songwriter, a big fancy songwriter to work with some girl and teach her how to have emotion, it's not the same. | ||
| There she is. | ||
| It's a lot of Amy Winehouse vibes. | ||
| Amy Winehouse vibes in that song. | ||
| In this fact that it's both organic. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| Not like she's copying Amy Winehouse, but that vibe of authenticity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's 21? | ||
| She's 21. Damn. | ||
| And the emotion is there that comes from... | ||
| And she writes all that. | ||
| Yeah, she's like... | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| That shit is not something that could be taught. | ||
| Put that up again, Jamie? | ||
| Is that available right now? | ||
| Can I get that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to add that shit to my Spotify playlist. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| I'm going to put that on the Green Room playlist right now. | ||
| On my own. | ||
| I'm showcasing her. | ||
| This is my single. | ||
| It's Scott Storch featuring Abby Stare. | ||
| I'm part of the making of her album, which already has a bunch of stuff that she made on her own that she made, and then stuff I did with her, and 1217 Records, me and my partner Kevin. | ||
| That voice is amazing, man. | ||
| Yo, she's dope. | ||
| I got some great records. | ||
| I got records with A-list celebrities. | ||
| It's not exciting to play, for me, a record with somebody who has already sold millions and millions of records for my project. | ||
| I made a habit in my career of Breaking artists. | ||
| I did Chris Brown's first song, and I told him sitting in the studio, I'm going to make you a hit record today. | ||
| He was like 15, 16, and I did that. | ||
| We made Run It that day. | ||
| When I came back into the business after my dark period of just not doing anything except doing drugs, which lasted eight, nine years, I met Steve LaBelle. | ||
| And Steve, not only were we partners on the rehab center, but he was helping me get back into the music thing. | ||
| And I was like, yo, get me a meeting with Jay-Z. Get me Beyonce. | ||
| Get me all the people I made hits for. | ||
| He's like, fuck no. | ||
| They're not going to work with you right now. | ||
| Show them what you're doing. | ||
| I'm going to give you the best blueprint. | ||
| Some people like to jump the gun. | ||
| Yeah, he's like... | ||
| This artist, this artist, this artist, this artist. | ||
| These are all new artists. | ||
| You don't know who they are. | ||
| But if you make them fire, everybody's going to look at you like you're a fucking get the Heisman Trophy again. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One by one, every single one of those artists that he put me with that were nobodies at this point, Are all huge right now. | ||
| Trippie Redd, A Boogie, Roddy Ricch, Russ, who's one of my favorites. | ||
| Like, I love Russ. | ||
| I don't know if you're familiar with his music. | ||
| He's just like, he's got something to say. | ||
| He's like... | ||
| He's the man. | ||
| You gotta fuck with Russ. | ||
| He's a really serious artist today. | ||
| I've seen this guy without radio because he has a fan base, a cult fan base, because what he does is so real. | ||
| Without radio or any shit, he's selling out arenas by himself. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, it's amazing. | ||
| I love that that's happening today. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They've kind of taken the gatekeeper. | ||
| The gatekeeper is out of the equation now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All something has to do is be good and get it online. | ||
| He released 200 songs in one year, just like SoundCloud or whatever the fuck. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| 200 songs in a year? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| And he just started that consistency. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It became an acquired taste. | ||
| So you love watching people make it. | ||
| Yeah, I like being responsible for that. | ||
| It's more of a challenge than just, oh, I'm going to make Drake a hit. | ||
| You know, I really want to work with Drake, but I've been roadblocked with Drake. | ||
| I know Drake loves... | ||
| Me and my production, but for whatever reason... | ||
| I haven't been able to get in. | ||
| I want to get a hold of Drake and talk to him about his fight picks. | ||
| That motherfucker loses more money on fights. | ||
| I want to call him up. | ||
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Before it's over, I need to get a record off with him. | |
| I want to get a record off with him. | ||
| Wasn't Jon Jones a 600-1 favorite? | ||
| I mean, well, he had it by KO. It wasn't just a win, but yeah. | ||
| Well, that's what I would have said anyway. | ||
| I would not have thought Jon would have... | ||
| I mean, that's an easy bet. | ||
| I want to get a record off with Rihanna, too. | ||
| I had a very uncomfortable meeting with Rihanna and I'm mortified to this day. | ||
| Uncomfortable because of the cocaine? | ||
| No. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| She was in a VIP in New York years and years ago. | ||
| And doing her thing and whatever. | ||
| Obviously people know who I am, so they didn't front on me. | ||
| They let me up into her table. | ||
| This was a greenhouse back in the day. | ||
| And I introduced myself and whatever, and I gave her a hug. | ||
| And I fucking got hooked onto her hoop earring. | ||
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My clothes got hooked on! | |
| And I'm like, don't move, don't move! | ||
| Don't move. | ||
| I almost ripped her fucking ear off accidentally. | ||
| That walk out of that VIP room was the most mortified, most embarrassing shit I ever fucking felt in my life. | ||
| Oh, she's cool. | ||
| I bet she doesn't even remember that. | ||
| Did I just really do that? | ||
| I didn't mean to get her ear in. | ||
| I know, but still. | ||
| That's an accident. | ||
| You're that guy at that moment. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| So yeah, it haunts me. | ||
| If I only didn't hook up with that earring. | ||
| You want to make a good impression and you get her ear ripped off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Life is full of surprises. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, your favorite thing seems to be breaking new people then. | ||
| Is it because you get to show the world new talent? | ||
| Does it remind you of you when you were getting your breaks? | ||
| You're helping sculpt what somebody's sound is going to be, the backbone of where they started, like creating something new. | ||
| And I think that's a, to me, like, my sound has always been to not have a sound. | ||
| And like, you know, have like different, like, genetic strains of music. | ||
| I call them like different things that I brought to the table that nobody else was doing. | ||
| And then when people start doing it so much, you're honored, copying you, and then you move on to the next thing. | ||
| But like with artists, you get to like concoct some kind of new vibe with them. | ||
| I did Beyonce's first solo album when we made a sound. | ||
| We did three smashes. | ||
| I did three straight smashes out of three songs I did. | ||
| One was Baby Boy, Naughty Girl, and Me, Myself, and I. And at that point, I had just moved from L.A., and I had been working with Dre for so many years, and I'm looking at Dre, | ||
| and I'm like, Dre has his empire, and I need to go off and create my empire, not competing, but doing something different within music and not using that sound that he and I created and sculpted together, which was like the new wave of West Coast music. | ||
| I moved back to Florida, to Miami, where I hadn't been in eons, because I went from Florida as a kid I lived there until I was 15. I moved to Philly with my dad. | ||
| And then from Philly to LA. And now I'm going from back to go start my own little world. | ||
| I'm now rich. | ||
| And I go home to Florida. | ||
| I'm rich. | ||
| And I'm ready to fucking make my own little sound and shit. | ||
| Create some shit. | ||
| Beyonce was one of the first contestants. | ||
| And we fucking solidified that shit. | ||
| I made history with that album. | ||
| I remember she did the Grammys, and she thanked God, and then she thanked me first. | ||
| I have it up. | ||
| It was one of the biggest honors in the world. | ||
| We made history. | ||
| That's the ultimate thing that I want to continue to do. | ||
| I want to do that with Abby. | ||
| I feel like once I get driven like that, nothing can stop me. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to prove my point. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Scott, it's been great talking to you, man. | ||
| I really appreciate it. | ||
| I appreciate you coming down here. | ||
| It's been a lot of fun. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| Wow, we did three hours already. | ||
| It's close, like two and a half hours now. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I could talk, all right? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Well, you got good stories. | ||
| And you have a good story. | ||
| Your story is a good story. | ||
| And like I said, I think it's a great story for people to hear. | ||
| That's why people like biographies. | ||
| People like to find out, was it easy for you? | ||
| Why am I struggling? | ||
| What is this struggle like? | ||
| Is it the same for everybody? | ||
| When you're struggling yourself, you think you're alone. | ||
| And when you have a dream and you don't know if it's going to come true, you go, was everybody like this? | ||
| Nothing great comes easy. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Thank you for having me, brother. | ||
| My pleasure, brother. | ||
| Pleasure to meet you. | ||
| Pleasure to hang with you. | ||
| My man. | ||
| Appreciate you very much. | ||
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